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May the power be with you
But PG&E in California plans to bury electrical cable
in similar landscapes
California now holds the ignominious prize for the highest electricity rates in the nation, except Hawaii. How did we get into this predicament? Because the California Public Utilities Commission -- the five-member agency appointed by Governor Gavin Newsom that regulates the prices, service and reliability of private energy utilities -- has failed to do its job. There are other government entities that hand out cookies to energy companies without a care for who pays the bill. But the buck stops at the Public Utilities Commission to protect utility customers. When a private utility like PG&E decides it needs to build new infrastructure -- say, to protect against wildfires -- it's the commission that determines if the infrastructure is necessary, if the utility's proposed costs for that infrastructure are fair, and if better and cheaper alternatives exist. The commission enjoys limited scrutiny by the courts. Decisions made by other state agencies can be appealed to Superior Court. But only an appellate court can hear commission appeals, and taking that case is discretionary. This limited judicial review means that the Public Utilities Commission essentially answers to the governor alone. As a former commission president, I know what keeping energy prices down requires . . .Guess who wrote that? Give up? Anyway, that was originally published on April 20. Big rate increases were passed for PG&E customers, not only for electricity, but also for advertisements so PG&E could tell customers what a great thing it was that they were being charged for PG&E burying electrical cables.
I recently noted that Los Angeles passed a "Mansion Tax" that had the elites in the area scrambling to sell their properties and contributing to the mass of "Left-ugees" now fleeing California. The number of left-ugees will likely explode, fueled by the latest scheme now being proposed. Since California's energy rates are skyrocketing, power companies propose income-based pricing in response to an Assembly bill. If you live in California, your electricity bill could soon be affected by how much money you earn, and your bill will start to look different by 2025.
California's three largest power companies - Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric, and San Diego Gas & Electric - submitted a joint proposal to the Public Utilities Commission outlining a fixed rate restructuring that would be based on one's income. Here are the numbers being put forth for consideration: Put simply, the more you earn the more you pay for recurring charges (not related to energy usage) . . .Anyway, on to April 26: Who killed California utility bill legislation?
A bill to rein in a proposed monthly fee on California electric bills has been quietly shelved in the Assembly without receiving a single vote. Assembly Bill 1999, written by Assemblymember Jacqui Irwin, was a response to the California Public Utilities Commission's proposal on fixed charges. The version to be voted on next month would let California's largest for-profit utility companies charge customers $24 per month -- with fees as low as $6 for lower-income customers -- as a kind of membership fee for the power grid. In exchange, power providers would be required to lower the rate that customers pay for every unit of electricity consumed. Customers who draw relatively little from the grid -- including those with solar panels -- would likely face higher overall bills. Customers who buy more electricity from the utilities are more likely to see their bills decline. Irwin's legislative rejoinder would have capped the set fees at $10 per month -- and just $5 for lower income customers. But that effort appears to be on ice, though Rivas' office says that while the bill will not move forward in its current form, talks with Irwin on possible amendments are ongoing. Bills that cost the state money, like AB 1999, have until today to make it out of their first policy committees. . .See the political details at the link.
The magic juice. It ebbs, it flows, sometimes it just dang shuts off. Old timers in Southern California - like we were, having lived in Orange County during the golden 80s decade thru early 90s - love to tell the youngsters of today about the times they've never really experienced. Cheap water - our water bill ran about $12 every...TWO MONTHS. There was natural gas for stoves and the furnace (the one night out of a thousand winter night you might need it), and there was electricity...ALWAYS...at 6.5? kwhr. San Onofre, Diablo Canyon, the coal plant in Carlsbad - Southern California Edison had it humming along, and life was good.
The infrastructure hasn't kept up with the state's population needs itself, less mind the grandiose plans, mandates, and deadlines imposed on citizens and utilities alike. They're also hamstrung by regressive progressive policies as far as proper fire control for the semi-arid desert scrub most of them inhabit. Every year CA burns. Every year aging powerlines fall into scrub and brush that was never cleared or control burned off to minimize that very outcome. And instead of using proper fire suppression techniques? Every year it's lather, rinse, repeat. The aging lines and poles stay the same, and the power to customers gets turned off "just in case" when the Santa Anas start to blow. Like now. . .California really was a Golden State before all of this . . . They sure financed some fancy, if useless, environmental experiments through the power companies (and by the state) instead of clearing brush.
DRAMATIC - Lowest total burned area in the 21st Century!𝙇𝙤𝙬𝙚𝙨𝙩 US burned area in 2023 this century
— Bjorn Lomborg (@BjornLomborg) September 6, 2023
Did you see that reported anywhere?
It compares total burned area 2023, Jan 1-Aug 24,
with total burned area, Jan 1-Aug 24, in all other years since 2000https://t.co/lIy6dDiIaThttps://t.co/nQsB2V3X2Shttps://t.co/gmOEjotm7J pic.twitter.com/vnmnL6yGzK
Funny thing has happened on the way to the glorious "energy transition" to a net-zero economy: environmentalists keep getting in the way. It is well understood that the maniacal drive to install massive wind and solar power projects, not to mention large new battery farms and "carbon-capture" facilities, all require substantial expansion and upgrading of the electricity grid. When Sen. Joe Manchin finally capitulated in 2022 to supporting President Joe Biden's blowout "green energy" subsidy bill (the so-called "Inflation Reduction Act"), it was supposed to be part of a deal in which regulatory and permitting reform would follow, not only to allow for a natural gas pipeline in West Virginia that is dear to Manchin, but other infrastructure projects, especially to enable new green energy supplies. But the permitting reform legislation never passed Congress. Environmental fundamentalists, including 70 Democratic House members, opposed any permitting reform. The chief achievement of decades of environmental activism is the patchwork of laws at the national and state level, such as the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), that have empowered environmentalists to slow and sometimes block development of all kinds. While NEPA and its state-level versions have not stopped all development, they can delay or increase the cost of projects sufficiently that many projects are simply deterred from even being proposed. When one lawsuit fails, environmental lawyers are often ready at the courthouse steps to file a dozen more, and the cycle of delay repeats. Environmentalists are loath to give up their superpower, even for the supposed "climate change" kryptonite of "green energy." . .The Sierra Club is irritating to people in California for obstructing their access to undeveloped land for recreation and such. The details here are interesting.
The Sierra Club, for example, has spent six years blocking a proposed transmission line intended to import emission-free hydropower from Canada. The Sierra Club has also opposed proposed solar power projects in California's desert areas. (The silver lining here is that the Sierra Club is in deep financial trouble at the moment, with internal rifts and mass layoffs imminent, according to The New Republic.) The Washington Post editorial page took note of this perverse state of affairs in a recent editorial, "Environmentalism Could Stop the Clean-Energy Transition."Heh. There's more. Fun reading.
He used to get up in the morning and sit at the window to drink his coffee, listen to the birds sing, and balance a sneaker on his head. "I've got too much pride for somebody who's got so much to be humble about," he once said. "And trying to keep a stinking shoe from falling off the top of my head is a good way to get a little humility to start the day." But I think he had plenty to be proud of. Tex Ritter dubbed him "The Storyteller." Johnny Cash called him the best in the business. Kurt Vonnegut said "I'm glad that he writes songs instead of short stories or a lot of us would be out of work." Critics called him a Hillbilly Poet and the Countryfried Philosopher. The rest of us called the same thing his sainted momma called him -- Tom. Tom T. Hall was to writing songs what George Jones was to singing them: natural, unassuming, peerless. Admittedly, Tom wasn't a great singer, but boy could he spin a yarn. He didn't so much write songs as translate life into lyrics. A Tom T. Hall tune was never an abstract meditation, never untethered and ephemeral. His melodies were concrete, incarnate creatures who first walked around in cracking leather boots upon this tired earth long before they ever crawled into our ears to rest. In a word, his songs were real.
His first hit, "A Week in a Country Jail" was drawn from his own experience of being arrested and held seven days for a speeding ticket while the judge, who had just lost his mother, apparently needed a full week to grieve before handling arraignments. "Harper Valley PTA," the chart-topper he wrote for Jeannie C. Reilly, was about a widow woman from his hometown in Kentucky. "The Ballad of Forty Dollars" was drawn from his time spent working as a gravedigger in his youth. "The Year that Clayton Delaney Died" was indeed biographical with only the names changed. And "Old Dogs, Children, and Watermelon Wine" was a retelling of a conversation he had in a barroom outside the Democratic National Convention. Such examples could be multiplied. . .More at the link. And here's That'sHow I Got to Memphis
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Posted by: olddog in mo at April 27, 2024 11:06 AM (ju2Fy)
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Morning
Posted by: Ciampino - See I can do German too! at April 27, 2024 11:06 AM (qfLjt)
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Nooded.
Posted by: olddog in mo at April 27, 2024 11:07 AM (ju2Fy)
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Good morning KT
Way in back yard sifting compost
Way in back yard sifting compost
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2024 11:10 AM (fwDg9)
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PG&E knows they didnt start the fires. When they bury enough cable they can't be blamed. Pyro's love fire, it's why they set them. Climate change is just bonus BS.
Posted by: Disgusted at April 27, 2024 11:10 AM (Z8Yh2)
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Tucker (yeah, I know) posted a speech he did recently, talking about, among other things, how Canadian companies were coming into his little space in nowhere Maine, putting up windmill towers.
He says it's his goal one day, to find out if one of these can be taken out with a... I forget what caliber he said, a hunting round. Describes people who tear up the landscrape to put up shit development are evil.
Or words to that effect.
He says it's his goal one day, to find out if one of these can be taken out with a... I forget what caliber he said, a hunting round. Describes people who tear up the landscrape to put up shit development are evil.
Or words to that effect.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:11 AM (Mrjew)
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California has a lot of commissions and Komisars to run them... Soviet style.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 27, 2024 11:12 AM (Q4IgG)
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Call some place paradise... kiss it goodbye.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:13 AM (Mrjew)
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The Sierra Club, for example, has spent six years blocking a proposed transmission line intended to import emission-free hydropower from Canada.
And the lawyers were probably paid for doing so.
One of the little secrets of "environmental litigation" is that left-wing judges often award "legal fees" to left-wing environmental organizations when they sue governments or large corporations. These fees can amount to many millions of dollars.
And the lawyers were probably paid for doing so.
One of the little secrets of "environmental litigation" is that left-wing judges often award "legal fees" to left-wing environmental organizations when they sue governments or large corporations. These fees can amount to many millions of dollars.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2024 11:14 AM (YAtuc)
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Here in the backward State of South Carolina, controlled burns are conducted on a regular basis in the State and National forests.
We seldom have raging forest fires like California does.
And back in a former life, the little sleepy town of Gaeta Italy was where we were stationed for about seven years.
And those crazy Italians would set the sides of the mountain on fire even year.
And they didn't have raging forest fires either.
We seldom have raging forest fires like California does.
And back in a former life, the little sleepy town of Gaeta Italy was where we were stationed for about seven years.
And those crazy Italians would set the sides of the mountain on fire even year.
And they didn't have raging forest fires either.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2024 11:14 AM (a1415)
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And that's another thing Tucker touched on. People making all these plans, they boxed themselves in to these parts of the country that TOO MANY PEOPLE.
They seem to think they know what is best for everybody, and they have no freakin' clue what is happening in other parts of the country. They make decisions that affect rural towns and rural land with damn near no human activity on them, because they can't see past their stupid, narrow, hateful, idiotic myopia.
They seem to think they know what is best for everybody, and they have no freakin' clue what is happening in other parts of the country. They make decisions that affect rural towns and rural land with damn near no human activity on them, because they can't see past their stupid, narrow, hateful, idiotic myopia.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:15 AM (Mrjew)
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willowed - it is sort of important
Daughter just called me from Guatemala. She is on a medical mission there. Today they are venting homes because all the continual smoke and dust causes respiratory problems for families there.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 27, 2024 09:22 AM (SfhV1)
A lot of the cooking there is done on "three rocks" or on a raised couple of rows of brick and a gridiron, which is dangerous for kids and women wearing dresses, and is dirty, dusty and toxic for lungs.
In Southern Mexico the development groups are pushing the "Patsari" stoves, which can either use traditional comal-type cooking surfaces or actual stove lids for pots like the old cast iron ranges we used here. They are designed for efficient use of heat and safety for the kids to be around and have chimneys so they are more healthy even when they are burning old 5-gal plastic buckets for fuel, which is not unusual.
You might suggest she look at the PATSARI stove design, and see if they can push that or start some sort of program to get those built.
and let me know, please
Daughter just called me from Guatemala. She is on a medical mission there. Today they are venting homes because all the continual smoke and dust causes respiratory problems for families there.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 27, 2024 09:22 AM (SfhV1)
A lot of the cooking there is done on "three rocks" or on a raised couple of rows of brick and a gridiron, which is dangerous for kids and women wearing dresses, and is dirty, dusty and toxic for lungs.
In Southern Mexico the development groups are pushing the "Patsari" stoves, which can either use traditional comal-type cooking surfaces or actual stove lids for pots like the old cast iron ranges we used here. They are designed for efficient use of heat and safety for the kids to be around and have chimneys so they are more healthy even when they are burning old 5-gal plastic buckets for fuel, which is not unusual.
You might suggest she look at the PATSARI stove design, and see if they can push that or start some sort of program to get those built.
and let me know, please
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 11:17 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: Joni Mitchell at April 27, 2024 11:18 AM (dg+HA)
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It is a quiet assumption among several electricity analysts on the West Coast that things will go on like this until California suffers a catastrophic multi-day blackout, at which point the policies will change.
There are adults in California trying to keep the lights on, and they even convinced Gavin Newsom not to shut down the last nuclear plant in California (much to the fury of the environmentalists), but every year California's electrical system becomes more and more fragile.
There are adults in California trying to keep the lights on, and they even convinced Gavin Newsom not to shut down the last nuclear plant in California (much to the fury of the environmentalists), but every year California's electrical system becomes more and more fragile.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2024 11:18 AM (YAtuc)
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Here in the backward State of South Carolina, controlled burns are conducted on a regular basis in the State and National forests.
We seldom have raging forest fires like California does.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2024 11:14 AM (a1415)
People have known this for decades. Cause and effect are clear as day, but whenever a fire starts to rage out of control, politicians and envirowhackos (BIRM) claim it's Glowball Warmening.
We seldom have raging forest fires like California does.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2024 11:14 AM (a1415)
People have known this for decades. Cause and effect are clear as day, but whenever a fire starts to rage out of control, politicians and envirowhackos (BIRM) claim it's Glowball Warmening.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:19 AM (Mrjew)
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Of course, some of Califnornica's out of control fires are actually STARTED by envirowhackos.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:20 AM (Mrjew)
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"Of course, some of Califnornica's out of control fires are actually STARTED by envirowhackos."
The clouds of smoke help to shield the remaining forest from the drying effects of the sun's rays.
:Shit some dumb-ass said.
The clouds of smoke help to shield the remaining forest from the drying effects of the sun's rays.
:Shit some dumb-ass said.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2024 11:21 AM (a1415)
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It is a quiet assumption among several electricity analysts on the West Coast that things will go on like this until California suffers a catastrophic multi-day blackout, at which point the policies will change.
There are adults in California trying to keep the lights on, and they even convinced Gavin Newsom not to shut down the last nuclear plant in California (much to the fury of the environmentalists), but every year California's electrical system becomes more and more fragile.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2024 11:18 AM (YAtuc)
What happens when all the envirowhackos leave Californica?
Granted, Bill Gates and crew have a solution, but short of that, where do these people go when Californica is literally unlivable?
We don't seem to be capable of building walls, so...
There are adults in California trying to keep the lights on, and they even convinced Gavin Newsom not to shut down the last nuclear plant in California (much to the fury of the environmentalists), but every year California's electrical system becomes more and more fragile.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2024 11:18 AM (YAtuc)
What happens when all the envirowhackos leave Californica?
Granted, Bill Gates and crew have a solution, but short of that, where do these people go when Californica is literally unlivable?
We don't seem to be capable of building walls, so...
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:22 AM (Mrjew)
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There's literally a commission in CA for everything. Sometimes more than one.
Partial list of CA commissions:
Board of Equalization
California Alternative Energy and Advanced Transportation Financing Authority
California Coastal Commission (even number years)
California Debt and Investment Advisory Commission
California Debt Limit Allocation Committee
California Educational Facilities Authority
California Health Facilities Financing Authority
California Hope, Opportunity, Perseverance, and Empowerment (HOPE) for Children Trust Account Act Board
California Ocean Protection Council (even number years)
California Pollution Control Financing Authority
California Public Employees' Retirement System (CalPERS)
California State Teachers' Retirement System (CalSTRS)
California Tax Credit Allocation Committee
California Transportation Financing Authority
California Victim Compensation Board
Citizens Financial Accountability Oversight Committee (CFAOC)
Commission on State Mandates
Franchise Tax Board
State Lands Commission
State Public Works Board
Partial list of CA commissions:
Board of Equalization
California Alternative Energy and Advanced Transportation Financing Authority
California Coastal Commission (even number years)
California Debt and Investment Advisory Commission
California Debt Limit Allocation Committee
California Educational Facilities Authority
California Health Facilities Financing Authority
California Hope, Opportunity, Perseverance, and Empowerment (HOPE) for Children Trust Account Act Board
California Ocean Protection Council (even number years)
California Pollution Control Financing Authority
California Public Employees' Retirement System (CalPERS)
California State Teachers' Retirement System (CalSTRS)
California Tax Credit Allocation Committee
California Transportation Financing Authority
California Victim Compensation Board
Citizens Financial Accountability Oversight Committee (CFAOC)
Commission on State Mandates
Franchise Tax Board
State Lands Commission
State Public Works Board
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 27, 2024 11:22 AM (Q4IgG)
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"the more you earn the more you pay for recurring charges "
Be happy you are allowed to keep anything, comrade.
Be happy you are allowed to keep anything, comrade.
Posted by: fd at April 27, 2024 11:23 AM (vFG9F)
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I was raised in Cal. Fire prevention is started young.
People burn shit in new locale. I'm nervous I'm going burn down the neighborhood. Fucking programming.
People burn shit in new locale. I'm nervous I'm going burn down the neighborhood. Fucking programming.
Posted by: Disgusted at April 27, 2024 11:23 AM (Z8Yh2)
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Knock Knock
Lorretta Lynch: Whos There?
Lorretta Lynch: Whos There?
Posted by: George Carlins Pencil at April 27, 2024 11:23 AM (OO9OI)
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Burying high-capacity power lines may not be the pan-of-see-'ya you'd take it to be. There's a right and a wrong way to do it, and you get a good idea of where the wrong way will be employed.
Yeah, they're pretty wind resistant, but earthquakes and floods and unplanned excavation can be a real bear -- not to mention, real bears. And a short or break creates an instant and often invisible killing zone, along with about the same fire hazard as a downed line. Oh well.
Yeah, they're pretty wind resistant, but earthquakes and floods and unplanned excavation can be a real bear -- not to mention, real bears. And a short or break creates an instant and often invisible killing zone, along with about the same fire hazard as a downed line. Oh well.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 27, 2024 11:24 AM (zdLoL)
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People have known this for decades. Cause and effect are clear as day, but whenever a fire starts to rage out of control, politicians and envirowhackos (BIRM) claim it's Glowball Warmening.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:19 AM (Mrjew)
Commercial cutting also clears out the forest, as does pre-commercial thinning in reducing fire dangers. The important thing is to reduce crown density which lets understory plants grow for critters and cycling of nutrients, reduces the density of fuel in the crowns if the fire gets into the canopy, and really reduces the intensity of the fires.
If the understory burns regularly to clear itself out, then the fires are less intense. In the west, douglas fir, lodgepole, redwood and sequoia are all adapted to regular fires, and some species actually require fire to open up the cones for reseeding.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:19 AM (Mrjew)
Commercial cutting also clears out the forest, as does pre-commercial thinning in reducing fire dangers. The important thing is to reduce crown density which lets understory plants grow for critters and cycling of nutrients, reduces the density of fuel in the crowns if the fire gets into the canopy, and really reduces the intensity of the fires.
If the understory burns regularly to clear itself out, then the fires are less intense. In the west, douglas fir, lodgepole, redwood and sequoia are all adapted to regular fires, and some species actually require fire to open up the cones for reseeding.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 11:24 AM (D7oie)
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Here in the backward State of South Carolina, controlled burns are conducted on a regular basis in the State and National forests.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2024 11:14 AM (a1415)
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Gaia is currently consulting with its lawyers.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2024 11:14 AM (a1415)
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Gaia is currently consulting with its lawyers.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 11:24 AM (w4yCw)
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Put simply, the more you earn the more you pay for recurring charges (not related to energy usage) . . .
There it is. They want your information worse than Google does.
There it is. They want your information worse than Google does.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 27, 2024 11:25 AM (CsUN+)
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but every year California's electrical system becomes more and more fragile.
The amusing thing is that California already has among the lowest per-capita CO2 emissions in the country, given the climate of coastal California, the availability of a considerable amount of hydroelectricity, and the fact that California has driven its heavy industry out of state.
No matter - it is a religion.
The amusing thing is that California already has among the lowest per-capita CO2 emissions in the country, given the climate of coastal California, the availability of a considerable amount of hydroelectricity, and the fact that California has driven its heavy industry out of state.
No matter - it is a religion.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2024 11:25 AM (YAtuc)
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There's literally a commission in CA for everything. Sometimes more than one.
And most of them pay their commissioners a six-figure salary.
It's an enormous source of graft.
Kamala Harris got put on a couple of these commissions in exchange for servicing Willie Brown.
And most of them pay their commissioners a six-figure salary.
It's an enormous source of graft.
Kamala Harris got put on a couple of these commissions in exchange for servicing Willie Brown.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2024 11:28 AM (YAtuc)
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"Gaia is currently consulting with its lawyers.
Posted by: Huck Follywood"
There is some outfit, Earth Justice, or some crap like that, that is running radio commercials with the tagline "Because Earth Needs a Good Lawyer".
Posted by: Huck Follywood"
There is some outfit, Earth Justice, or some crap like that, that is running radio commercials with the tagline "Because Earth Needs a Good Lawyer".
Posted by: fd at April 27, 2024 11:29 AM (vFG9F)
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Old Dogs And Children, And Watermelon Wine .
Posted by: Eromero at April 27, 2024 11:31 AM (o2ZRX)
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There is some outfit, Earth Justice, or some crap like that, that is running radio commercials with the tagline "Because Earth Needs a Good Lawyer".
Formerly the Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund.
They are the leading practitioners of getting rich by suing, and then having left-wing judges award them millions of dollars in "legal fees".
Formerly the Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund.
They are the leading practitioners of getting rich by suing, and then having left-wing judges award them millions of dollars in "legal fees".
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2024 11:34 AM (YAtuc)
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I lived in CA for 12 years. I had professional dealings with the CCC (CA Costal Commission). What a bunch of pompous assholes. And the outfit I was working for at the time was basically a marine research lab bent on "saving the whales."
The researchers and the CCC would argue over the smallest details of ocean conservation.
Fucktards of the highest order.
The researchers and the CCC would argue over the smallest details of ocean conservation.
Fucktards of the highest order.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 27, 2024 11:37 AM (Q4IgG)
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And most of them pay their commissioners a six-figure salary.
It's an enormous source of graft.
The point of the Soviet American government is to enrich the people in it.
It's an enormous source of graft.
The point of the Soviet American government is to enrich the people in it.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 27, 2024 11:37 AM (ibTVg)
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We should use clean solar power to recharge lithium batteries installed in gay whales to save Mother Earth
We should use clean solar power to recharge lithium batteries installed in gay whales to save Mother Earth
Posted by: Karen A. McFuckstick at April 27, 2024 11:37 AM (AKyQE)
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Heh. I’m writing this as I’m charging my EV at a public charging station. Luckily not in California though. 😀
Posted by: Montec at April 27, 2024 11:37 AM (s8zPN)
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Yeah they aren't burning or managing the forests in the PNW either.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 27, 2024 11:40 AM (yeEu9)
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And I watched some Oliver Anthony on You Tube. Saw him on the Grand Ol Opry, where he got a standing ovation. Rich Men from Richmond may have fallen off the radar but there are a bunch of folks that know the words by heart and live that life.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 27, 2024 11:42 AM (yeEu9)
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We should use clean solar power to recharge lithium batteries installed in gay whales to save Mother Earth
Ummmmm, did you just assume earth's gender?
Ummmmm, did you just assume earth's gender?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 27, 2024 11:42 AM (CsUN+)
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PG&E in California plans to bury electrical cable
in similar landscapes
I guess it's better than the GOP trying to bury their peckers in our anus.
in similar landscapes
I guess it's better than the GOP trying to bury their peckers in our anus.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 27, 2024 11:43 AM (aFNOf)
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I think the rich men are NORTH of Richmond...
Posted by: But what do I know at April 27, 2024 11:44 AM (dg+HA)
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Listening to the PDB podcast, with Tulsi Gabbard. He's asking her about comments she made about Trump, and is giving her a chance to explain and/or repudiate her prior statements.
Doesn't look like she's going to take it. She's going to slip away from it, and I think that's a BIG mistake.
If Trump selects her, it will be a big mistake.
Doesn't look like she's going to take it. She's going to slip away from it, and I think that's a BIG mistake.
If Trump selects her, it will be a big mistake.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:45 AM (NhfdV)
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PBD
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:45 AM (NhfdV)
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If any state exemplifies a SCOAMF, it's Kalifornia under DemoKrat rule.
Insufficient Electrical Infrastructure ✅
Insufficeint Water Infrastucture and Resources ✅
F'd up Roadways ✅
No Election Integrity ✅
High-Speed Rail Boondoggle(s) ✅
Homelessness ✅
General Lack of Accountability ✅
Yup, all CFs here in theGolden Golden Showers State.
Insufficient Electrical Infrastructure ✅
Insufficeint Water Infrastucture and Resources ✅
F'd up Roadways ✅
No Election Integrity ✅
High-Speed Rail Boondoggle(s) ✅
Homelessness ✅
General Lack of Accountability ✅
Yup, all CFs here in the
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 27, 2024 11:47 AM (ynpvh)
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Yup, all CFs here in the Golden Golden Showers State.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 27, 2024 11:47 AM (ynpvh)
But green checkmarks are in abundance.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 27, 2024 11:47 AM (ynpvh)
But green checkmarks are in abundance.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:49 AM (NhfdV)
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You know after you fire a couple poor providers, it gets easier.
Trump picks Tulsi, he's fired. I'd like to think he is smarter than that.
Trump picks Tulsi, he's fired. I'd like to think he is smarter than that.
Posted by: Disgusted at April 27, 2024 11:50 AM (Z8Yh2)
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44 Yup, all CFs here in the Golden Golden Showers State.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 27, 2024 11:47 AM (ynpvh)
But green checkmarks are in abundance.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:49 AM (NhfdV)
Well, yes, because they're GREEN.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 27, 2024 11:47 AM (ynpvh)
But green checkmarks are in abundance.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:49 AM (NhfdV)
Well, yes, because they're GREEN.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 27, 2024 11:50 AM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2024 11:52 AM (fwDg9)
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Trump picks Tulsi, he's fired. I'd like to think he is smarter than that.
Posted by: Disgusted at April 27, 2024 11:50 AM (Z8Yh2)
I'm close to dropping him, not over Tulsi, but his kissing up to the foreign aid bill.
Posted by: Disgusted at April 27, 2024 11:50 AM (Z8Yh2)
I'm close to dropping him, not over Tulsi, but his kissing up to the foreign aid bill.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:54 AM (NhfdV)
Posted by: Tranni Tilapiatwat at April 27, 2024 11:56 AM (AKyQE)
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>>> Yup, all CFs here in the Golden Golden Showers State.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 27, 2024 11:47 AM (ynpvh)
And the worse all those things get the more fanatically supportive their voter base is, and more intrenched their grip on power.
Democracy, above the family level, just doesn't work. I can't be convinced it does.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 27, 2024 11:47 AM (ynpvh)
And the worse all those things get the more fanatically supportive their voter base is, and more intrenched their grip on power.
Democracy, above the family level, just doesn't work. I can't be convinced it does.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 27, 2024 11:57 AM (Y6IkP)
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"I'm close to dropping him, not over Tulsi, but his kissing up to the foreign aid bill."
Well just get it over with and drop him now because he's gonna be the devil come Nov.
Well just get it over with and drop him now because he's gonna be the devil come Nov.
Posted by: pawn at April 27, 2024 11:57 AM (QB+5g)
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Well just get it over with and drop him now because he's gonna be the devil come Nov.
Posted by: pawn at April 27, 2024 11:57 AM (QB+5g)
Honestly, I don't think Trump is capable of doing anything significant, if he gets elected, but him getting elected can be significant, but not if he's just going to go along with everything they're already doing.
If Bill Barr is endorsing you, you're doing something wrong.
Posted by: pawn at April 27, 2024 11:57 AM (QB+5g)
Honestly, I don't think Trump is capable of doing anything significant, if he gets elected, but him getting elected can be significant, but not if he's just going to go along with everything they're already doing.
If Bill Barr is endorsing you, you're doing something wrong.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:00 PM (NhfdV)
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I used to work for PG&E.
In the mid 2000’s they were buying solar for $0.5/kwh. Basically what we are paying now in the public. But they kept rates lower because at the time is a was a small percentage. And they also cut back on maintenance.
Recently, they have been on a battery buying spree. Every year I would ask upper management why we don’t build more pump storage instead of batteries. But the answer is simple. A pump storage facility is a pain to build because of the environmentalists, even if it will last for a century.
Batteries? Everyone loves them! Best of all, they cost a fortune, need to replaced every ten years, and as a capital expense pay PG&E 10% of the cost in profit. What’s not to like?
Yes, the CPUC is made up of democrat apparatchiks whose goal is to make democrats rich.
In the mid 2000’s they were buying solar for $0.5/kwh. Basically what we are paying now in the public. But they kept rates lower because at the time is a was a small percentage. And they also cut back on maintenance.
Recently, they have been on a battery buying spree. Every year I would ask upper management why we don’t build more pump storage instead of batteries. But the answer is simple. A pump storage facility is a pain to build because of the environmentalists, even if it will last for a century.
Batteries? Everyone loves them! Best of all, they cost a fortune, need to replaced every ten years, and as a capital expense pay PG&E 10% of the cost in profit. What’s not to like?
Yes, the CPUC is made up of democrat apparatchiks whose goal is to make democrats rich.
Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at April 27, 2024 12:01 PM (V8yYW)
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Maybe Tulsi is gunning for VP, I hope Trump doesn't look at her.
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2024 12:07 PM (fwDg9)
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"I'm close to dropping him ...
dropping him from what?
either you check his name nov 5 or you don't.
teeter-tottering for the next 7 months bothers you, not him.
dropping him from what?
either you check his name nov 5 or you don't.
teeter-tottering for the next 7 months bothers you, not him.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:08 PM (F3Dlr)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at April 27, 2024 12:08 PM (T4tVD)
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F'd up Roadways ✅
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
You don’t know the half of it. My buddy works in Caltrans. Upper management discussions deal only with equity and getting people off the road. To do this they slow walk repairs. I keep telling him to record this Shiite but he’s afraid of them.
I know a guy who tried to get accountability in one of the State Boards. It became one of the only Boards in California history that was dissolved. This guy went to Texas and demonrats from the state legislature did their best to make sure he was never hired anywhere else.
The democrats are just evil. I love my state (and I know you do too) but I see what the world gets worse every year. Becaus demonrats work to make it that way.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
You don’t know the half of it. My buddy works in Caltrans. Upper management discussions deal only with equity and getting people off the road. To do this they slow walk repairs. I keep telling him to record this Shiite but he’s afraid of them.
I know a guy who tried to get accountability in one of the State Boards. It became one of the only Boards in California history that was dissolved. This guy went to Texas and demonrats from the state legislature did their best to make sure he was never hired anywhere else.
The democrats are just evil. I love my state (and I know you do too) but I see what the world gets worse every year. Becaus demonrats work to make it that way.
Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at April 27, 2024 12:09 PM (V8yYW)
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Loretta Lynch - wasn't she in that Deep Throat movie?
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 27, 2024 12:09 PM (q3gwH)
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Greetings! PG&E is my provider. One day not too long ago I got 2 separate emails from them. The first one said "congratulations! you used 9% less energy this month than last month!" (It's called "spring" you idiots, warmer weather...) Then I get the 2nd one "Alert! Your energy bill will be 15% higher than last billing period!".
It's enough to drive one to drink...
It's enough to drive one to drink...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 27, 2024 12:09 PM (MeG8a)
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Loretta Lynch - wasn't she in that Deep Throat movie?
Posted by: Tom Servo
Uranium miner's daughter
Loretta Lynch - wasn't she in that Deep Throat movie?
Posted by: Tom Servo
Uranium miner's daughter
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 27, 2024 12:11 PM (63Dwl)
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Thanks K.T. !
Posted by: JT at April 27, 2024 12:11 PM (T4tVD)
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A classical music blog I read had a post proudly saying the New York Philharmonic was now more than half women. My comment was, "Wonderful! Now let's do something about the glaring gender imbalance in mining, construction, logging, oil field operations, high-voltage line work and Bering Sea crab fishing."
A classical music blog I read had a post proudly saying the New York Philharmonic was now more than half women. My comment was, "Wonderful! Now let's do something about the glaring gender imbalance in mining, construction, logging, oil field operations, high-voltage line work and Bering Sea crab fishing."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 27, 2024 12:14 PM (MoZTd)
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teeter-tottering for the next 7 months bothers you, not him.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:08 PM (F3Dlr)
You're right about one thing: Trump doesn't give a shit what I think.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:08 PM (F3Dlr)
You're right about one thing: Trump doesn't give a shit what I think.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:17 PM (98dBG)
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My boss tells a story of his musician son auditioning behind a screen to prevent bias. Select on sound quaility alone. I'm old.
Posted by: Disgusted at April 27, 2024 12:18 PM (Z8Yh2)
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Tom T Hall with an allegory of Americans as they used to be.
If you don't listen to the whole story you won't know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDJfd9ufE84
If you don't listen to the whole story you won't know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDJfd9ufE84
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 12:19 PM (lCWOD)
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I love, love LOVE April.
Out my bedroom window I look at the branches from a neighbor's tulip poplar. A friend runs a tree service company and refers to the tulip poplar as a "weed tree" I've come to appreciate it.
In about ten days it goes from zero leaves to fully leafed out and the transition does so much to lift my spirit. It's time to sleep with the windows open and wake up listening to the birds.
Soon the tree's "tulip" blossoms will appear with colorful yellows and greens.
It may be a "weed" to a guy with a chainsaw, but it's a thing of beauty to me.
Did I mention I love April?
Out my bedroom window I look at the branches from a neighbor's tulip poplar. A friend runs a tree service company and refers to the tulip poplar as a "weed tree" I've come to appreciate it.
In about ten days it goes from zero leaves to fully leafed out and the transition does so much to lift my spirit. It's time to sleep with the windows open and wake up listening to the birds.
Soon the tree's "tulip" blossoms will appear with colorful yellows and greens.
It may be a "weed" to a guy with a chainsaw, but it's a thing of beauty to me.
Did I mention I love April?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 27, 2024 12:21 PM (dg+HA)
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"My boss tells a story of his musician son auditioning behind a screen to prevent bias. Select on sound quaility alone. "
That used to be the way it was. The applications didn't even have names, just numbers so you couldn't discriminate on the basis of surname.
You were candidate number (x).
Then the check boxes arrived on the application forms.
That used to be the way it was. The applications didn't even have names, just numbers so you couldn't discriminate on the basis of surname.
You were candidate number (x).
Then the check boxes arrived on the application forms.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 27, 2024 12:21 PM (MeG8a)
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Thanks KT. Appreciate the work you put into compiling these threads.
Another songwriter who didn't have a great voice, but could touch people with his storytelling was the late Guy Clark.
Here's Lylle Lovett singing the first song Clark wrote, Step Inside This House.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpZnqvTZLx0
Another songwriter who didn't have a great voice, but could touch people with his storytelling was the late Guy Clark.
Here's Lylle Lovett singing the first song Clark wrote, Step Inside This House.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpZnqvTZLx0
Posted by: Muldoon at April 27, 2024 12:22 PM (l4B/J)
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A classical music blog I read had a post proudly saying the New York Philharmonic was now more than half women.
When being a woman is good enough to succeed = soft bigotry of low expectations.
Thanks, Rush
When being a woman is good enough to succeed = soft bigotry of low expectations.
Thanks, Rush
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:22 PM (F3Dlr)
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Greetings! PG&E is my provider. One day not too long ago I got 2 separate emails from them. The first one said "congratulations! you used 9% less energy this month than last month!" (It's called "spring" you idiots, warmer weather...) Then I get the 2nd one "Alert! Your energy bill will be 15% higher than last billing period!".
It's enough to drive one to drink...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 27, 2024 12:09 PM (MeG8a)
Evidently some genius sent memos around the country, because I started getting weekly reports too.
Some weeks I use more energy than others, and I'm not sure what it relates to, other than laundry day tends to be the higher days of usage.
Then there's a thing that shows the "efficiency zone," and my usage appears to be consistently about twice what they consider efficient.
Oh, ok. I'll turn off all the lights, all the appliances, everything that uses electricity, then maybe my numbers will be in your "zone."
It's enough to drive one to drink...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 27, 2024 12:09 PM (MeG8a)
Evidently some genius sent memos around the country, because I started getting weekly reports too.
Some weeks I use more energy than others, and I'm not sure what it relates to, other than laundry day tends to be the higher days of usage.
Then there's a thing that shows the "efficiency zone," and my usage appears to be consistently about twice what they consider efficient.
Oh, ok. I'll turn off all the lights, all the appliances, everything that uses electricity, then maybe my numbers will be in your "zone."
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:23 PM (+K0IN)
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The climate communists don't consider hydropower to be "green"
‘Giant Methane Factories’
https://tinyurl.com/mrf86ddw
...found that the reservoirs created by dams are notable sources of both carbon dioxide and methane, a potent greenhouse gas that’s about 80 times more effective at trapping heat ... hydropower makes up at least 1.3 percent of total global carbon emissions—though many scientists believe it’s likely higher.
Researchers say that methane is one of the biggest issues with hydropower. As organic matter, including vegetation, dead animals and even fertilizer runoff, gets carried downstream, it piles up in large quantities behind dams and decomposes in the reservoirs.
Some research, like this 2016 study published in Environmental Research Letters found that the greenhouse gas emissions produced from many hydroelectric dams—such as Nevada’s iconic Hoover Dam—can even rival the emissions generated by fossil fuel power plants
‘Giant Methane Factories’
https://tinyurl.com/mrf86ddw
...found that the reservoirs created by dams are notable sources of both carbon dioxide and methane, a potent greenhouse gas that’s about 80 times more effective at trapping heat ... hydropower makes up at least 1.3 percent of total global carbon emissions—though many scientists believe it’s likely higher.
Researchers say that methane is one of the biggest issues with hydropower. As organic matter, including vegetation, dead animals and even fertilizer runoff, gets carried downstream, it piles up in large quantities behind dams and decomposes in the reservoirs.
Some research, like this 2016 study published in Environmental Research Letters found that the greenhouse gas emissions produced from many hydroelectric dams—such as Nevada’s iconic Hoover Dam—can even rival the emissions generated by fossil fuel power plants
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 27, 2024 12:27 PM (9aVck)
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Discuss the various interpretations of what's recyclable, what's considered food waste, yard waste and whether it can be put in one the half dozen trash bins California mandates for homeowners.
We had 3 bins and I'm pretty sure they all went to the same place.
Periodically Waste Management (the trash company) wouldn't collect ours because there was a piece of lettuce in the "recyclables only" bin. Or some such shit.
We had 3 bins and I'm pretty sure they all went to the same place.
Periodically Waste Management (the trash company) wouldn't collect ours because there was a piece of lettuce in the "recyclables only" bin. Or some such shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 27, 2024 12:28 PM (Q4IgG)
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PG&E was the Haliburton of Vietnam war.
Posted by: Eromero at April 27, 2024 12:30 PM (PqMOQ)
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19 You forgot the California Ministry of Funny Walks.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 27, 2024 12:30 PM (0EOe9)
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The interview is a two way affair. When I go for an interview I am interviewing them as much as they are interviewing me. If they don't want to face me I have no time for them.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 12:30 PM (lCWOD)
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Headline: China Among the Countries That Already Ban TikTok
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That's our goal, to be more like China?
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That's our goal, to be more like China?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:31 PM (Mrjew)
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We had 3 bins and I'm pretty sure they all went to the same place.
Periodically Waste Management (the trash company) wouldn't collect ours because there was a piece of lettuce in the "recyclables only" bin. Or some such shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 27, 2024 12:28 PM (Q4IgG)
Penn and Teller did an episode on this, when they were doing their Bullshit show.
It does. Except for things like aluminum cans, everything goes to the landfill. And in those places where they pick out whatever they do, it is a net drain on the taxpayer, to pay for the efforts to remove certain items from the trash, and send them to companies that get government money to "recycle" things.
Periodically Waste Management (the trash company) wouldn't collect ours because there was a piece of lettuce in the "recyclables only" bin. Or some such shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 27, 2024 12:28 PM (Q4IgG)
Penn and Teller did an episode on this, when they were doing their Bullshit show.
It does. Except for things like aluminum cans, everything goes to the landfill. And in those places where they pick out whatever they do, it is a net drain on the taxpayer, to pay for the efforts to remove certain items from the trash, and send them to companies that get government money to "recycle" things.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:34 PM (Mrjew)
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I know CA is a huge mess... But that video in the sidebar of the San Jose Mayor's bodyguard getting attacked by a rando is not part of the problem. It's part of the solution.
Every big city mayor should walk in fear of his worthless life. Especially in CA. They should have to bunker up like third world dictators, because that's what they are.
Every big city mayor should walk in fear of his worthless life. Especially in CA. They should have to bunker up like third world dictators, because that's what they are.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 27, 2024 12:35 PM (0FoWg)
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Where all da Hos be at on the roofing crews? Weird.
Roofers need to “look like America”, right?
What’s iironic, California used to be the model of good government and national representatives from around the planet used to travel there to learn. LAPD, the CADOT, their infrastructure projects, dams, everything.
Maybe the Sierra Club was right all along about all those millions of illegal migrants ruining “the environment”, eh?
Enjoy your candle light dinners.
Roofers need to “look like America”, right?
What’s iironic, California used to be the model of good government and national representatives from around the planet used to travel there to learn. LAPD, the CADOT, their infrastructure projects, dams, everything.
Maybe the Sierra Club was right all along about all those millions of illegal migrants ruining “the environment”, eh?
Enjoy your candle light dinners.
Posted by: Common Tater at April 27, 2024 12:35 PM (IhfQt)
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73 Pacific Architects and Engineers. That company was sucking up money in Vietnam. One of their clowns shot up an AF hooch bar with an AK.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 27, 2024 12:35 PM (0EOe9)
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You're right about one thing: Trump doesn't give a shit what I think.
Posted by: BurtTC
Most people don't. My neighbor doesn't give a shit what I think, either.
Even when the rubber hits the road the average person can't accept going from theory to practical.
Example, voting/ not voting for Trump in Nov.
Posted by: BurtTC
Most people don't. My neighbor doesn't give a shit what I think, either.
Even when the rubber hits the road the average person can't accept going from theory to practical.
Example, voting/ not voting for Trump in Nov.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:35 PM (F3Dlr)
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The methane trapped in permafrost is enormous. Forget rotting vegetation in dams. Also oceans and volcanoes. The politicians tax and legislate only things that they can control: manufacturing, the plebes (us), farming. They can't do anything about 'Gaia' spewing from its volcanoes, tundra and oceans so we don't talk about them.
Posted by: Ciampino - Very selective pearl clutching at April 27, 2024 12:37 PM (qfLjt)
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On a big scale, there is a construction waste company that supposedly sorts out the dumpsters
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2024 12:39 PM (fwDg9)
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Most people don't. My neighbor doesn't give a shit what I think, either.
Even when the rubber hits the road the average person can't accept going from theory to practical.
Example, voting/ not voting for Trump in Nov.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:35 PM (F3Dlr)
It's also true that most people have no idea how much influence they have on others. They seem to think the other person has to acknowledge they've been affected by something you say, in order for that influence to have occurred.
That's not the way it works.
Even when the rubber hits the road the average person can't accept going from theory to practical.
Example, voting/ not voting for Trump in Nov.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:35 PM (F3Dlr)
It's also true that most people have no idea how much influence they have on others. They seem to think the other person has to acknowledge they've been affected by something you say, in order for that influence to have occurred.
That's not the way it works.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:40 PM (Mrjew)
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8 Call some place paradise... kiss it goodbye.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:13 AM (Mrjew)
We tried to avoid anybody knowing.
Didn't help.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 11:13 AM (Mrjew)
We tried to avoid anybody knowing.
Didn't help.
Posted by: Berry Creek, CA. at April 27, 2024 12:42 PM (B705c)
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If “recycling” pencils out, you don’t have to pay for it.
Someone will come along and pick it up from you. For free.
Rag men. Newspaper men. Scrap men. Plastic is not generally re-usable, not the way people might think. It isn’t a matter of “melting it down”. Doesn’t work that way.
The very best way to deal with much of it, is to burn it. This is unacceptable to people who don’t even understand the issues.
Think of the fleets of diesel trucks and crews, the expense of driving around suburbia picking up and sorting trash. Boutique segregation of useless materials, ultimately virtue signaling city finances right down the fucking drain.
What they REALLY need is Rechargeable Garbage Trucks to pick up those empty but dutifully rinsed organic Argula containers.
Someone will come along and pick it up from you. For free.
Rag men. Newspaper men. Scrap men. Plastic is not generally re-usable, not the way people might think. It isn’t a matter of “melting it down”. Doesn’t work that way.
The very best way to deal with much of it, is to burn it. This is unacceptable to people who don’t even understand the issues.
Think of the fleets of diesel trucks and crews, the expense of driving around suburbia picking up and sorting trash. Boutique segregation of useless materials, ultimately virtue signaling city finances right down the fucking drain.
What they REALLY need is Rechargeable Garbage Trucks to pick up those empty but dutifully rinsed organic Argula containers.
Posted by: Common Tater at April 27, 2024 12:42 PM (IhfQt)
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They should be taxed. An ocean methane tax and a methane/sulfur/particulate volcano tax.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 12:42 PM (lCWOD)
Posted by: Muldoon at April 27, 2024 12:46 PM (l4B/J)
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What they REALLY need is Rechargeable Garbage Trucks to pick up those empty but dutifully rinsed organic Argula containers.
Posted by: Common Tater at April 27, 2024 12:42 PM (IhfQt)
What we really need is for people to start processing their own waste... I don't know what it takes to prepare plastics for reuse, but glass and paper should be easy enough. Clean your toilet paper and sanitary napkins, and with everything else you are recycling WALK it down to the recycling plants, so it can be of value to mother Earth.
It's the only way.
Posted by: Common Tater at April 27, 2024 12:42 PM (IhfQt)
What we really need is for people to start processing their own waste... I don't know what it takes to prepare plastics for reuse, but glass and paper should be easy enough. Clean your toilet paper and sanitary napkins, and with everything else you are recycling WALK it down to the recycling plants, so it can be of value to mother Earth.
It's the only way.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:46 PM (Mrjew)
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It's also true that most people have no idea how much influence they have on others. They seem to think the other person has to acknowledge they've been affected by something you say, in order for that influence to have occurred.
That's not the way it works.
Posted by: BurtTC
Are we still discussing you dropping Trump?
That's not the way it works.
Posted by: BurtTC
Are we still discussing you dropping Trump?
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:47 PM (F3Dlr)
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I like all the “experts” who insist someone should borrow $1200 to buy a POS “energy star” appliance that will be in a landfill in 4 or 5 years, to “save” $14 annually on the electric bill by replacing better made and constructed appliances.
Posted by: Common Tater at April 27, 2024 12:47 PM (IhfQt)
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Yes, the CPUC is made up of democrat apparatchiks whose goal is to make democrats rich.
Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau
And the CCP. But mostly the CCP in the long run.
Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau
And the CCP. But mostly the CCP in the long run.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 27, 2024 12:47 PM (IG4Id)
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burtTC…
I get those stupid things too.
My guess is it’s basically lies. They tell you you are worse than average to make you try to conserve. As though the cost wasn’t enough to do so.
Another story from my PG&E days. One of my colleagues was testing the nest thermostat. It lied. It would always tell you it was warmer than it actually was. Nest at the time told them that was to provide a psychological blanket, so to speak, and my colleague told them we can’t support an inaccurate product.
I’ve never tested it myself but I imagine they fixed that. Maybe.
I get those stupid things too.
My guess is it’s basically lies. They tell you you are worse than average to make you try to conserve. As though the cost wasn’t enough to do so.
Another story from my PG&E days. One of my colleagues was testing the nest thermostat. It lied. It would always tell you it was warmer than it actually was. Nest at the time told them that was to provide a psychological blanket, so to speak, and my colleague told them we can’t support an inaccurate product.
I’ve never tested it myself but I imagine they fixed that. Maybe.
Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at April 27, 2024 12:48 PM (V8yYW)
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Good post K.T. The ideologues pay no attention to science or math and expect their BS to carry the day. Reality hits you in the face pretty quickly, and everybody around you as well
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 27, 2024 12:49 PM (UwmMe)
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Yeah, disposable diapers and tampons are unsustainable.
Posted by: Common Tater at April 27, 2024 12:49 PM (IhfQt)
96
They should be taxed. An ocean methane tax and a methane/sulfur/particulate volcano tax.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 12:42 PM (lCWOD)
It's only right and good, that eventually the government will be provided with our contact information, delightfully provided to them by our ISPs and our VPNs (nobody can tell who we are, or where we're going on the internet... yeah, sure), so they can tax us for our AoSHQ comments.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 12:42 PM (lCWOD)
It's only right and good, that eventually the government will be provided with our contact information, delightfully provided to them by our ISPs and our VPNs (nobody can tell who we are, or where we're going on the internet... yeah, sure), so they can tax us for our AoSHQ comments.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:49 PM (Mrjew)
97
Peter Meijer drops out of Michigan GOP Senate race
https://tinyurl.com/mryuyy2s
In addition to voting to impeach Trump, this man looks like he enjoys the occasional penis.
https://tinyurl.com/mryuyy2s
In addition to voting to impeach Trump, this man looks like he enjoys the occasional penis.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 27, 2024 12:49 PM (aFNOf)
98
If ever we (meaning nit-the-uniparty) ever control the Congress there is so much to do, but one legal reform I'd love to see is that class action and NGO lawsuit settlements can not be used to pay legal fees and expenses and any penalties n excess of actual costs not disbursed to individual beneficiaries is automatically paid to the US Treasury.
That way, if EPA pollutes a river and settles a lawsuit, those citizens directly harmed get paid, the EPA loses part of its budget, but the taxpayer is not harmed (since the penalty goes right back to the general treasury). Lawyers aren't getting rich by suing the government, and left wing Attorney Generals can't settle fake lawsuits by awarding money to their favorite marxist NGO (like Obama's always did).
That way, if EPA pollutes a river and settles a lawsuit, those citizens directly harmed get paid, the EPA loses part of its budget, but the taxpayer is not harmed (since the penalty goes right back to the general treasury). Lawyers aren't getting rich by suing the government, and left wing Attorney Generals can't settle fake lawsuits by awarding money to their favorite marxist NGO (like Obama's always did).
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 12:50 PM (fMKtt)
99
Are we still discussing you dropping Trump?
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:47 PM (F3Dlr)
No, I think we're discussing you being offended by me saying I was considering dropping him.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 12:47 PM (F3Dlr)
No, I think we're discussing you being offended by me saying I was considering dropping him.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:51 PM (Mrjew)
100
We could burn every it of garbage. Profitably. Seperate out metal and bottles and just burn the rest.
But CO2 or something something
But CO2 or something something
Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at April 27, 2024 12:52 PM (V8yYW)
101
My guess is it’s basically lies. They tell you you are worse than average to make you try to conserve. As though the cost wasn’t enough to do so.
Another story from my PG&E days. One of my colleagues was testing the nest thermostat. It lied. It would always tell you it was warmer than it actually was. Nest at the time told them that was to provide a psychological blanket, so to speak, and my colleague told them we can’t support an inaccurate product.
I’ve never tested it myself but I imagine they fixed that. Maybe.
Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at April 27, 2024 12:48 PM (V8yYW)
I mentioned at one point a couple years ago I was looking into one of those types of thermostats, and everyone I knew who had one said they were bullshit.
I don't expect they've fixed them since.
Another story from my PG&E days. One of my colleagues was testing the nest thermostat. It lied. It would always tell you it was warmer than it actually was. Nest at the time told them that was to provide a psychological blanket, so to speak, and my colleague told them we can’t support an inaccurate product.
I’ve never tested it myself but I imagine they fixed that. Maybe.
Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at April 27, 2024 12:48 PM (V8yYW)
I mentioned at one point a couple years ago I was looking into one of those types of thermostats, and everyone I knew who had one said they were bullshit.
I don't expect they've fixed them since.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:52 PM (Mrjew)
102
According to my utility reports, my home usage is 20% more electricity efficient than my 'Most Efficient' neighbors. I mostly blame my wife who hangs clothes outside to dry most of the time. She loves this relatively lightweight and portable contraption for hanging clothes:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077ZQ9W6G/
I also lug my portable solar panel and 2K battery outside on sunny days to recharge all my batteries for chain saw, weed-wacker, leaf blower, hedge trimmer, etc. It's kinda surprising the power needed to recharge those batteries. As much power as it takes to keep my refrigerator running for four hours.
I plan to be able to survive a 24 month loss of power and help a small number (maybe four homes) of my neighbors* with some essentials; at the very least - water.
Maybe it's the kind of thing that a small number of like-minded people could share the expense of procuring. A little bit of electricity is still 100% better then none at all.
* As Ronald Reagan said: "No one can help everyone, but everyone can help someone."
According to my utility reports, my home usage is 20% more electricity efficient than my 'Most Efficient' neighbors. I mostly blame my wife who hangs clothes outside to dry most of the time. She loves this relatively lightweight and portable contraption for hanging clothes:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077ZQ9W6G/
I also lug my portable solar panel and 2K battery outside on sunny days to recharge all my batteries for chain saw, weed-wacker, leaf blower, hedge trimmer, etc. It's kinda surprising the power needed to recharge those batteries. As much power as it takes to keep my refrigerator running for four hours.
I plan to be able to survive a 24 month loss of power and help a small number (maybe four homes) of my neighbors* with some essentials; at the very least - water.
Maybe it's the kind of thing that a small number of like-minded people could share the expense of procuring. A little bit of electricity is still 100% better then none at all.
* As Ronald Reagan said: "No one can help everyone, but everyone can help someone."
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 12:55 PM (RKVpM)
103
If ever we (meaning nit-the-uniparty) ever control the Congress....
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 12:50 PM (fMKtt)
How many congresscritters voted against the overseas border security boondoggle bill? 18?
We're not getting control of Congress.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 12:50 PM (fMKtt)
How many congresscritters voted against the overseas border security boondoggle bill? 18?
We're not getting control of Congress.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:55 PM (Mrjew)
104
This probably fits this thread better than the previous one:
Net electricity generation in the United States from 1950 to 2023 (in terawatt-hours)
https://shorturl.at/evAKP
Net electricity generation in the United States from 1950 to 2023 (in terawatt-hours)
https://shorturl.at/evAKP
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 12:56 PM (llON8)
105
Drove past an old "pilot windmill" project in northern Ohio yesterday. Dead still - not a blade in motion. No wind - no watts. It's about 5 miles east of the Davis Besse Nuclear power station - which was humming away cranking out truly clean energy. Mrs Java laughed.
Posted by: Java Joe at April 27, 2024 12:57 PM (WaLgG)
106
Peter Meijer drops out of Michigan GOP Senate race
https://tinyurl.com/mryuyy2s
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 27, 2024 12:49 PM (aFNOf)
================
Sadly, Mike Rogers stinks of grift. Didn't Peter Meijer's family tell him to go away and never again darken their doors?
https://tinyurl.com/mryuyy2s
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 27, 2024 12:49 PM (aFNOf)
================
Sadly, Mike Rogers stinks of grift. Didn't Peter Meijer's family tell him to go away and never again darken their doors?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 12:57 PM (+v9Cm)
107
So.
A busy friend calls us to chat while she's out running errands. One of her errands is a 20-minute drive to take her kitchen scraps to a place that composts them. She collects the scraps and stores them in her freezer until it's time for her weekly drive to the compost facility.
I cannot think of a more wasteful way to deal with kitchen scraps. She uses electricity and freezer space to keep them from rotting at home and gasoline and her valuable time to deliver them to a place for them to rot and then be transported to a bagging facility (in plastic!) and then delivered to retailers by truck so that homeowners can buy it.
Can you tell that she cares about the environment?
Me, I toss my scraps in the compost bin and then dump the bin into planting holes whenever I plant veggies and flowers. No driving or freezer space required. But my voter registration and county color on an electoral map says I don't care about the erf.
A busy friend calls us to chat while she's out running errands. One of her errands is a 20-minute drive to take her kitchen scraps to a place that composts them. She collects the scraps and stores them in her freezer until it's time for her weekly drive to the compost facility.
I cannot think of a more wasteful way to deal with kitchen scraps. She uses electricity and freezer space to keep them from rotting at home and gasoline and her valuable time to deliver them to a place for them to rot and then be transported to a bagging facility (in plastic!) and then delivered to retailers by truck so that homeowners can buy it.
Can you tell that she cares about the environment?
Me, I toss my scraps in the compost bin and then dump the bin into planting holes whenever I plant veggies and flowers. No driving or freezer space required. But my voter registration and county color on an electoral map says I don't care about the erf.
Posted by: Emmie at April 27, 2024 12:58 PM (Sf2cq)
108
I'm with Trump until he starts with the "revitalizing the cities" BS
it would cost 10 trillion, at least
and it would be a total waste
at the expense of the rural folx
it would cost 10 trillion, at least
and it would be a total waste
at the expense of the rural folx
Posted by: yikes at April 27, 2024 12:58 PM (us2H3)
109
https://shorturl.at/evAKP
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 12:56 PM (llON
Is this a joke? $199 a month to get access to the site?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 12:56 PM (llON
Is this a joke? $199 a month to get access to the site?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:59 PM (Mrjew)
110
Why do we always get a link to last week's thread with a stern warning not to post in it?
Why do we always get a link to last week's thread with a stern warning not to post in it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 27, 2024 01:00 PM (ny95y)
111
This probably fits this thread better than the previous one:
Net electricity generation in the United States from 1950 to 2023 (in terawatt-hours)
https://shorturl.at/evAKP
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 12:56 PM (llON
=================
Very interesting link, and thanks. Power production dropped by what appears to be about 50 TW hours in 2023 versus 2022. With demand set to grow substantially (thanks to AI and EV's), and coal plants being forced offline by the junta, we are in trouble.
Net electricity generation in the United States from 1950 to 2023 (in terawatt-hours)
https://shorturl.at/evAKP
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 12:56 PM (llON
=================
Very interesting link, and thanks. Power production dropped by what appears to be about 50 TW hours in 2023 versus 2022. With demand set to grow substantially (thanks to AI and EV's), and coal plants being forced offline by the junta, we are in trouble.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 01:01 PM (+v9Cm)
112
California is a prime example of why The Union must be dissolved.
Each State can go it's own way and the nutjobs, rapists, whackadoodles, fags, sodomites, democrats, bull dykes, crackheads, methheads, pederasts, envrioweenies, feminazis, public skool teacher groomers, illegal invaders, welfare layabouts, disability commandos and rapists can all stay in California and enjoy theyselves.
Each State can go it's own way and the nutjobs, rapists, whackadoodles, fags, sodomites, democrats, bull dykes, crackheads, methheads, pederasts, envrioweenies, feminazis, public skool teacher groomers, illegal invaders, welfare layabouts, disability commandos and rapists can all stay in California and enjoy theyselves.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 27, 2024 01:02 PM (R/m4+)
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Sadly, Mike Rogers stinks of grift. Didn't Peter Meijer's family tell him to go away and never again darken their doors?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 12:57 PM (+v9Cm)
I forget which one, but Trump endorsed one of them, even though both of them have been critical of him.
I think Rogers is the one whose criticisms were more tepid and nuanced, whereas the other guy had some scathing things to say about The Don, but that's the one he endorsed anyway.
I could be wrong, but that's what I believe I saw.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 12:57 PM (+v9Cm)
I forget which one, but Trump endorsed one of them, even though both of them have been critical of him.
I think Rogers is the one whose criticisms were more tepid and nuanced, whereas the other guy had some scathing things to say about The Don, but that's the one he endorsed anyway.
I could be wrong, but that's what I believe I saw.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:02 PM (Mrjew)
114
No, I think we're discussing you being offended by me saying I was considering dropping him.
Posted by: BurtTC
I didn't get my comment across in a worthy manner that didn't include a personal bias, I was interested in what you specifically meant by dropping him.
Your welcome to ignore my comments.
Posted by: BurtTC
I didn't get my comment across in a worthy manner that didn't include a personal bias, I was interested in what you specifically meant by dropping him.
Your welcome to ignore my comments.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 01:05 PM (F3Dlr)
115
Me, I toss my scraps in the compost bin and then dump the bin into planting holes whenever I plant veggies and flowers. No driving or freezer space required. But my voter registration and county color on an electoral map says I don't care about the erf.
Posted by: Emmie at April 27, 2024 12:58 PM
I'm kicking myself today for not buying a $39.99 spinning compost device at Aldi's yesterday.
Me, I toss my scraps in the compost bin and then dump the bin into planting holes whenever I plant veggies and flowers. No driving or freezer space required. But my voter registration and county color on an electoral map says I don't care about the erf.
Posted by: Emmie at April 27, 2024 12:58 PM
I'm kicking myself today for not buying a $39.99 spinning compost device at Aldi's yesterday.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RKVpM)
116
No, I think we're discussing you being offended by me saying I was considering dropping him.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:51 PM (Mrjew)
I am hanging on your every word. What other options do you have that won't lead to exactly what we have today? Lead us.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:51 PM (Mrjew)
I am hanging on your every word. What other options do you have that won't lead to exactly what we have today? Lead us.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (D7oie)
117
I forget which one, but Trump endorsed one of them,
Trump endorsed Rogers who is as dirty as Lindsey Grahams ahole.
Trump endorsed Rogers who is as dirty as Lindsey Grahams ahole.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (aFNOf)
118
Why do we always get a link to last week's thread with a stern warning not to post in it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 27, 2024 01:00 PM (ny95y)
Give it a shot.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 27, 2024 01:00 PM (ny95y)
Give it a shot.
Posted by: The Ban Hammer, Watching & Waiting at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (R/m4+)
119
you're not your
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 01:07 PM (F3Dlr)
120
we're discussing you being offended by me saying I was considering dropping him.
Posted by: BurtTC
---------------------------
I'm offended too.
But I like your idea of personal land fills.
There's an article on various 'compost gardens' project in Africa.
Circular pyramid terraces with a base about 10' in diameter terraced up to about 5' with a key hole slot enabling -(whatever one puts into a compost thing) to be dumped.
Posted by: BurtTC
---------------------------
I'm offended too.
But I like your idea of personal land fills.
There's an article on various 'compost gardens' project in Africa.
Circular pyramid terraces with a base about 10' in diameter terraced up to about 5' with a key hole slot enabling -(whatever one puts into a compost thing) to be dumped.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (lCWOD)
121
Speaking of utilities... twice in less than a week our area (not our house) there's been major electrical outages. No official word on what caused the first one, and the second one is ongoing right now.
Given the potential location(s) I'm leaning towards construction workers doing something stupid, but we've had more electric outages in the last year or two than the previous 12 combined.
I figure it'll get worse...
Given the potential location(s) I'm leaning towards construction workers doing something stupid, but we've had more electric outages in the last year or two than the previous 12 combined.
I figure it'll get worse...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (Q4IgG)
122
I'm with Trump until he starts with the "revitalizing the cities" BS
it would cost 10 trillion, at least
Posted by: yikes
Yeah, he seems to get his head turned at the prospect of Big Things™. He's a real estate guy, so natch. But, there are a lot of things that could be done for a lot, lot less. A lot of the infrastructure out West was built by the Army Corps Eng's. Turn the EPA into a research/advisory board only. Outlaw the Settle and Sue merrygoround and prosecute the violators. Etc.
it would cost 10 trillion, at least
Posted by: yikes
Yeah, he seems to get his head turned at the prospect of Big Things™. He's a real estate guy, so natch. But, there are a lot of things that could be done for a lot, lot less. A lot of the infrastructure out West was built by the Army Corps Eng's. Turn the EPA into a research/advisory board only. Outlaw the Settle and Sue merrygoround and prosecute the violators. Etc.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (IG4Id)
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>>> 109 https://shorturl.at/evAKP
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 12:56 PM (llON
Is this a joke? $199 a month to get access to the site?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:59 PM (Mrjew)
I don't know why you're getting that, sounds like shorturl is being a turd or something. Here's the direct link with (many) spaces:
https://www.statista.com/ statistics/ 188521/ total-us- electricity-net-generation/
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 12:56 PM (llON
Is this a joke? $199 a month to get access to the site?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 12:59 PM (Mrjew)
I don't know why you're getting that, sounds like shorturl is being a turd or something. Here's the direct link with (many) spaces:
https://www.statista.com/ statistics/ 188521/ total-us- electricity-net-generation/
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (llON8)
124
For a while then when things were frantic, I was getting energy usage condemnations on a pretty regular basis. Other rate-payers must have had the same enthusiasm I did, because they slacked way off (couple of Public Utilities scandals may have played into that as well). They're not sending "free" squiggly exploding light bulbs any more, either.
The very first thing I noticed about them was that the comparison was not to "watts per square foot" or some other ratio; it was total usage defined as "efficiency." A lot of houses in my 'neighborhood' are between 900 and 1500 square feet.
Mine is 3600. Boy, they thought I was just awful.
We voted in a special tax on ourselves to have all those recyclables collected and sorted. When it turned out that most of it wasn't actually being sorted, they quietly cancelled the contract. The tax did not go down.
The very first thing I noticed about them was that the comparison was not to "watts per square foot" or some other ratio; it was total usage defined as "efficiency." A lot of houses in my 'neighborhood' are between 900 and 1500 square feet.
Mine is 3600. Boy, they thought I was just awful.
We voted in a special tax on ourselves to have all those recyclables collected and sorted. When it turned out that most of it wasn't actually being sorted, they quietly cancelled the contract. The tax did not go down.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (zdLoL)
125
I'm kicking myself today for not buying a $39.99 spinning compost device at Aldi's yesterday.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RKVpM)
I'm amazed at the stuff I see in the Aldi "fun aisle". I'm hoping they'll bring back the rolling yard container thingy. It's like a bucket with a raised handle on wheels.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RKVpM)
I'm amazed at the stuff I see in the Aldi "fun aisle". I'm hoping they'll bring back the rolling yard container thingy. It's like a bucket with a raised handle on wheels.
Posted by: Emmie at April 27, 2024 01:09 PM (Sf2cq)
126
I'm kicking myself today for not buying a $39.99 spinning compost device at Aldi's yesterday.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RKVpM)
I use 12' of welded wire fencing set up in a circle.
I turn it over a couple times a year and add to it.
I got several yards this spring to put on the garden. It is cheaper.
In prepping a garden site I have also just dug trenches and buried kitchen compost as well. It does break up some of the compaction and gets worms into the area
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RKVpM)
I use 12' of welded wire fencing set up in a circle.
I turn it over a couple times a year and add to it.
I got several yards this spring to put on the garden. It is cheaper.
In prepping a garden site I have also just dug trenches and buried kitchen compost as well. It does break up some of the compaction and gets worms into the area
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:09 PM (D7oie)
127
Trump's endorsements; He owned a casino, he has a concept of long term and short term odds.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:09 PM (lCWOD)
128
Has he said how he intends to revitalize Big Cities?
Maybe he thinks cutting off federal funds would be a
healthy start.
Maybe he thinks cutting off federal funds would be a
healthy start.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:12 PM (lCWOD)
129
>>> 111
=================
Very interesting link, and thanks. Power production dropped by what appears to be about 50 TW hours in 2023 versus 2022. With demand set to grow substantially (thanks to AI and EV's), and coal plants being forced offline by the junta, we are in trouble.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 01:01 PM (+v9Cm)
Yeah, plus it looks pretty much flat since 2005 or so, vs the slope on the 1950 to pre-2005 section.
=================
Very interesting link, and thanks. Power production dropped by what appears to be about 50 TW hours in 2023 versus 2022. With demand set to grow substantially (thanks to AI and EV's), and coal plants being forced offline by the junta, we are in trouble.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 01:01 PM (+v9Cm)
Yeah, plus it looks pretty much flat since 2005 or so, vs the slope on the 1950 to pre-2005 section.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 01:14 PM (llON8)
130
126 I'm kicking myself today for not buying a $39.99 spinning compost device at Aldi's yesterday.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RKVpM)
I use 12' of welded wire fencing set up in a circle.
I turn it over a couple times a year and add to it.
I got several yards this spring to put on the garden. It is cheaper.
In prepping a garden site I have also just dug trenches and buried kitchen compost as well. It does break up some of the compaction and gets worms into the area
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:09 PM (D7oie)
When we first started our raised beds we tilled in a ton (2000 lbs) of elephant poo from the zoo.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (RKVpM)
I use 12' of welded wire fencing set up in a circle.
I turn it over a couple times a year and add to it.
I got several yards this spring to put on the garden. It is cheaper.
In prepping a garden site I have also just dug trenches and buried kitchen compost as well. It does break up some of the compaction and gets worms into the area
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:09 PM (D7oie)
When we first started our raised beds we tilled in a ton (2000 lbs) of elephant poo from the zoo.
Posted by: Eromero at April 27, 2024 01:15 PM (o2ZRX)
131
Too bad garbage trucks can't run on the garbage they pick up
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2024 01:15 PM (fwDg9)
132
I didn't get my comment across in a worthy manner that didn't include a personal bias, I was interested in what you specifically meant by dropping him.
Your welcome to ignore my comments.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 01:05 PM (F3Dlr)
Fine. Dropping him, as in done trying to defend him, done paying attention to his wishy washy nonsense, where everyone has to stroke his ego, and as long as they do that, nothing else really matters.
You know, basically what Ace has been saying for months.
Your welcome to ignore my comments.
Posted by: old chick at April 27, 2024 01:05 PM (F3Dlr)
Fine. Dropping him, as in done trying to defend him, done paying attention to his wishy washy nonsense, where everyone has to stroke his ego, and as long as they do that, nothing else really matters.
You know, basically what Ace has been saying for months.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:16 PM (cSGQP)
133
Too bad garbage trucks can't run on the garbage they pick up
Posted by: Skip
Mr. Fusion, Marty. It's called Mr. Fusion.
Posted by: Skip
Mr. Fusion, Marty. It's called Mr. Fusion.
Posted by: Doc cut-loop at April 27, 2024 01:16 PM (IG4Id)
134
(and I'm looking for the link to the blog post where I originally found the chart, as it was the image only, not a link to the stats site)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 01:17 PM (llON8)
135
I'm amazed at the stuff I see in the Aldi "fun aisle". I'm hoping they'll bring back the rolling yard container thingy. It's like a bucket with a raised handle on wheels.
Posted by: Emmie at April 27, 2024 01:09 PM
I saw one of them yesterday. Just one. They must sell out quickly.
The - as you call it - 'fun aisle' is one of the wonders of Aldi's. That and the frozen 'island' of weird frozen foods from around the world. It's an interesting store. Never a boring trip.
Fortunately, I have impulse control. Unfortunately I missed out on the compost device as I over-suppressed my impulse to buy.
I'm amazed at the stuff I see in the Aldi "fun aisle". I'm hoping they'll bring back the rolling yard container thingy. It's like a bucket with a raised handle on wheels.
Posted by: Emmie at April 27, 2024 01:09 PM
I saw one of them yesterday. Just one. They must sell out quickly.
The - as you call it - 'fun aisle' is one of the wonders of Aldi's. That and the frozen 'island' of weird frozen foods from around the world. It's an interesting store. Never a boring trip.
Fortunately, I have impulse control. Unfortunately I missed out on the compost device as I over-suppressed my impulse to buy.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 01:17 PM (RKVpM)
136
I am hanging on your every word. What other options do you have that won't lead to exactly what we have today? Lead us.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (D7oie)
I don't have any other options.
If you want to pretend Trump is going to save you, go for it.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:06 PM (D7oie)
I don't have any other options.
If you want to pretend Trump is going to save you, go for it.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:17 PM (cSGQP)
137
/Gardening Thread!
Fresh food waste in a compost heap will draw in any local scavengers, and that includes raccoon, groundhog, opossum and skunk. They'll burrow in and nest over the winter, then eat your garden shoots. So I only put the coffee grounds and eggshells in the pile, with wood ash from the stove.
We vacuum up the leaves, and the grass twice a year. The bin is two walls of unmortared old concrete block, and piles of brick. This makes it workable with the tractor bucket. I often get six or eight yards of new soil a year. Lot of dirt.
/gardening thread
Fresh food waste in a compost heap will draw in any local scavengers, and that includes raccoon, groundhog, opossum and skunk. They'll burrow in and nest over the winter, then eat your garden shoots. So I only put the coffee grounds and eggshells in the pile, with wood ash from the stove.
We vacuum up the leaves, and the grass twice a year. The bin is two walls of unmortared old concrete block, and piles of brick. This makes it workable with the tractor bucket. I often get six or eight yards of new soil a year. Lot of dirt.
/gardening thread
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 27, 2024 01:18 PM (zdLoL)
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>>> 133 Too bad garbage trucks can't run on the garbage they pick up
Posted by: Skip
Mr. Fusion, Marty. It's called Mr. Fusion.
Posted by: Doc cut-loop at April 27, 2024 01:16 PM (IG4Id)
Screw flying cars, where's my Mr. Fusion?!
Posted by: Skip
Mr. Fusion, Marty. It's called Mr. Fusion.
Posted by: Doc cut-loop at April 27, 2024 01:16 PM (IG4Id)
Screw flying cars, where's my Mr. Fusion?!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 01:19 PM (llON8)
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I don't know why you're getting that, sounds like shorturl is being a turd or something. Here's the direct link with (many) spaces:
https://www.statista.com/ statistics/ 188521/ total-us- electricity-net-generation/
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (llON
I'm still getting a popup that says I need an account to gain unlimited access. Limited access appears to be possible, but it says limited access doesn't include access to THIS article.
Probably my VPN or popup blocker that's causing them to block my access. Oh well. Not turning them off.
https://www.statista.com/ statistics/ 188521/ total-us- electricity-net-generation/
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (llON
I'm still getting a popup that says I need an account to gain unlimited access. Limited access appears to be possible, but it says limited access doesn't include access to THIS article.
Probably my VPN or popup blocker that's causing them to block my access. Oh well. Not turning them off.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:20 PM (cSGQP)
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Has he said how he intends to revitalize Big Cities?
Maybe he thinks cutting off federal funds would be a
healthy start.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:12 PM (lCWOD)
this is a serious issue, so many municipalities and counties have taken "infrastructure loans" to build out public works like bridges and highways and even less useful things that they can"t afford the maintenance, and need to keep taking those infrastructure loans and covid funds and other becas to keep up and continue to build out just to keep functioning.
some counties in the midwest were griding up asphalt county roads and converting them back to oiled gravel roads in the 2010's because they didn't have funds to keep them up otherwise.
Maybe he thinks cutting off federal funds would be a
healthy start.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:12 PM (lCWOD)
this is a serious issue, so many municipalities and counties have taken "infrastructure loans" to build out public works like bridges and highways and even less useful things that they can"t afford the maintenance, and need to keep taking those infrastructure loans and covid funds and other becas to keep up and continue to build out just to keep functioning.
some counties in the midwest were griding up asphalt county roads and converting them back to oiled gravel roads in the 2010's because they didn't have funds to keep them up otherwise.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:22 PM (D7oie)
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THE GARDEN THREAD IS BLOOMING
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2024 01:22 PM (fwDg9)
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When we first started our raised beds we tilled in a ton (2000 lbs) of elephant poo from the zoo.
Something tells me it's all happening at the zoo. I do believe it. I do believe it's true.
When we first started our raised beds we tilled in a ton (2000 lbs) of elephant poo from the zoo.
Something tells me it's all happening at the zoo. I do believe it. I do believe it's true.
Posted by: Paul Simon at April 27, 2024 01:23 PM (RKVpM)
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we tilled in a ton (2000 lbs) of elephant poo
From another time: when Ringling Brothers would hit town, all the single-axle dump truckers would pull off the other jobs to haul pachyderm shit. Farmers were in line to pay to have it hauled in.
Depending on what your next load was going to be, hosing out the box could be quite a chore.
From another time: when Ringling Brothers would hit town, all the single-axle dump truckers would pull off the other jobs to haul pachyderm shit. Farmers were in line to pay to have it hauled in.
Depending on what your next load was going to be, hosing out the box could be quite a chore.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 27, 2024 01:23 PM (zdLoL)
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But I like your idea of personal land fills.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (lCWOD)
That was meant to be satire.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (lCWOD)
That was meant to be satire.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:24 PM (cSGQP)
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Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 01:24 PM (llON8)
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This isn't the info I have squirrelled away somewhere but it's an overall look at the keyhole garden.
https://insteading.com/blog/keyhole-garden/
https://insteading.com/blog/keyhole-garden/
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:26 PM (lCWOD)
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I don't have any other options.
If you want to pretend Trump is going to save you, go for it.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:17 PM (cSGQP)
If failure is your only option because of your insulted sense of what is appropriate, then I will ask that you forgive me for calling you a defeatist.
Because that is the definition of defeatism, and the recipe for failure.
I hope you can cuddle it like a teddy bear to soothe yourself, since it serves no other purpose in the world.
If you want to pretend Trump is going to save you, go for it.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:17 PM (cSGQP)
If failure is your only option because of your insulted sense of what is appropriate, then I will ask that you forgive me for calling you a defeatist.
Because that is the definition of defeatism, and the recipe for failure.
I hope you can cuddle it like a teddy bear to soothe yourself, since it serves no other purpose in the world.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:27 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Theodore Geisel at April 27, 2024 01:27 PM (dg+HA)
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Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 01:24 PM (llON
Thanks for posting.
Pull quote from that post: There is no surer way to destroy America than to return it to a pre-industrial state.
--
Gee, you'd almost start to think that was the point of it all.
Almost.
https://shorturl.at/vDFP2
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Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 27, 2024 01:24 PM (llON
Thanks for posting.
Pull quote from that post: There is no surer way to destroy America than to return it to a pre-industrial state.
--
Gee, you'd almost start to think that was the point of it all.
Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:29 PM (cSGQP)
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If failure is your only option because of your insulted sense of what is appropriate, then I will ask that you forgive me for calling you a defeatist.
Because that is the definition of defeatism, and the recipe for failure.
I hope you can cuddle it like a teddy bear to soothe yourself, since it serves no other purpose in the world.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:27 PM (D7oie)
You want me to go there? Fine, I'll go there.
This country is being destroyed. You can pretend it's not, but it is. And they're going to succeed, in part because people like you have put your hope in Donald Trump.
He's not the answer. He never was, and it's almost comical how everyone in DC has run circles around him, while he gets off on bragging about what he's done. Which is squat.
My hope comes from enough people to stop putting their hope in politicians. Any of them. I don't know that a true revolution is possible, or would even succeed, but it's better to say let's get on with it, than pretending Donald Trump is going to fix things.
But you do you.
Because that is the definition of defeatism, and the recipe for failure.
I hope you can cuddle it like a teddy bear to soothe yourself, since it serves no other purpose in the world.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:27 PM (D7oie)
You want me to go there? Fine, I'll go there.
This country is being destroyed. You can pretend it's not, but it is. And they're going to succeed, in part because people like you have put your hope in Donald Trump.
He's not the answer. He never was, and it's almost comical how everyone in DC has run circles around him, while he gets off on bragging about what he's done. Which is squat.
My hope comes from enough people to stop putting their hope in politicians. Any of them. I don't know that a true revolution is possible, or would even succeed, but it's better to say let's get on with it, than pretending Donald Trump is going to fix things.
But you do you.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:32 PM (cSGQP)
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144 But I like your idea of personal land fills.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (lCWOD)
That was meant to be satire.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:24 PM (
Good way to caught.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:08 PM (lCWOD)
That was meant to be satire.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:24 PM (
Good way to caught.
Posted by: Eromero at April 27, 2024 01:33 PM (o2ZRX)
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If you ever find yourself in a conversation with a climate crisis global warming oh my gosh carbon is bad and methane is worse tree hugger just politely compliment the clothes they are wearing and ask how they were cleaned.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 27, 2024 01:35 PM (dg+HA)
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From another time: when Ringling Brothers would hit town, all the single-axle dump truckers would pull off the other jobs to haul pachyderm shit. Farmers were in line to pay to have it hauled in.
Depending on what your next load was going to be, hosing out the box could be quite a chore.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 27, 2024 01:23 PM (zdLoL)
================
Also from another time, my wife and I were having dinner one evening near the tunnel on the Manhattan side and Ringling's elephants came marching through on their way to Madison Square Garden. What a sight! And what a lot of elephant dumps on the street behind them!
Depending on what your next load was going to be, hosing out the box could be quite a chore.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 27, 2024 01:23 PM (zdLoL)
================
Also from another time, my wife and I were having dinner one evening near the tunnel on the Manhattan side and Ringling's elephants came marching through on their way to Madison Square Garden. What a sight! And what a lot of elephant dumps on the street behind them!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 27, 2024 01:37 PM (lNKY9)
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The Dems don't care if the run a pedo or a murderer. Got a D after his name? That's who I vote for. Works every time while we argue if the Repub is pure enough.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 27, 2024 01:38 PM (yeEu9)
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this is a serious issue, so many municipalities and counties have taken "infrastructure loans" to build out public works like bridges and highways and even less useful things ...
Posted by: Kindltot
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If not for Ken Paxton, Houston would be passing out guaranteed income checks. Big Cities are wholly owned subsidiaries of FedGov. The best way to bring them to reality, the first step of revitalization, is for them to be self supporting.
Posted by: Kindltot
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If not for Ken Paxton, Houston would be passing out guaranteed income checks. Big Cities are wholly owned subsidiaries of FedGov. The best way to bring them to reality, the first step of revitalization, is for them to be self supporting.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 01:47 PM (lCWOD)
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But you do you.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:32 PM (cSGQP)
My God, what university did you get your PhD in philosophy?
such depth, such understanding, such incredible levels of understanding of human experience. When are you going on tour? People will line up to gather such pearls of locutorial excellence from you. I am dumbfounded, as I suspect everyone you meet is, "how can such pronouncements come from someone who went through the same schooling as I" they must all think.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2024 01:32 PM (cSGQP)
My God, what university did you get your PhD in philosophy?
such depth, such understanding, such incredible levels of understanding of human experience. When are you going on tour? People will line up to gather such pearls of locutorial excellence from you. I am dumbfounded, as I suspect everyone you meet is, "how can such pronouncements come from someone who went through the same schooling as I" they must all think.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 27, 2024 01:49 PM (D7oie)
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It looks like Floyd II has been found and that at least some are trying to make it happen.
Posted by: PG at April 27, 2024 02:01 PM (gQbO4)
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John Earle Sullivan, the onetime racial-justice activist and provocateur who filmed the deadly shooting of Ashli Babbitt at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was sentenced to six years in federal prison by a judge in Washington D.C.
That summabitch and his crew were breaking the windows that Ashli Babbit tried to crawl through. Every time a window was broken his camera moved away. I hope he gets @ss f'd every day of his six years.
He was also caught on camera the evening of J5 with Roy Epps.
John Earle Sullivan, the onetime racial-justice activist and provocateur who filmed the deadly shooting of Ashli Babbitt at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was sentenced to six years in federal prison by a judge in Washington D.C.
That summabitch and his crew were breaking the windows that Ashli Babbit tried to crawl through. Every time a window was broken his camera moved away. I hope he gets @ss f'd every day of his six years.
He was also caught on camera the evening of J5 with Roy Epps.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 02:18 PM (RKVpM)
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I hope he gets @ss f'd every day of his six years.
He was also caught on camera the evening of J5 with Roy Epps.
Posted by: Divide by Zero a
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They'll find a way - he'll not do much if any time.
He was also caught on camera the evening of J5 with Roy Epps.
Posted by: Divide by Zero a
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They'll find a way - he'll not do much if any time.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 03:51 PM (lCWOD)
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I know all the worries about Tulsi, but I like her because she left the Dems, and she rats them out and tells everyone they should leave too, she is unabashedly America-first, and she talks about policy - not about the trials and tribulations of being a woman!
Ps. The fact that she's a good looking babe, dresses modestly, and has a husky voice doesn't hurt either!
Ps. The fact that she's a good looking babe, dresses modestly, and has a husky voice doesn't hurt either!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 27, 2024 03:58 PM (fvaUq)
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They'll find a way - he'll not do much if any time.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 03:51 PM
The fact that this gets released on the weekend with little information as to charges tells me 100% the fix is in, so I'm not going to disagree with you at all.
If he starts spilling the beans while in jail, he gets the shiv.
Believe me, he has beans to spill. Especially why he's caught on video and image next to Roy Epps on J5.
But we're stupid. According to them.
They'll find a way - he'll not do much if any time.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2024 03:51 PM
The fact that this gets released on the weekend with little information as to charges tells me 100% the fix is in, so I'm not going to disagree with you at all.
If he starts spilling the beans while in jail, he gets the shiv.
Believe me, he has beans to spill. Especially why he's caught on video and image next to Roy Epps on J5.
But we're stupid. According to them.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 27, 2024 05:03 PM (RKVpM)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 27, 2024 05:27 PM (ufFY8)
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There is some outfit, Earth Justice, or some crap like that, that is running radio commercials with the tagline "Because Earth Needs a Good Lawyer".
Posted by: fd at April 27, 2024 11:29 AM
Discover the Networks on "Earth Justice": https://bit.ly/3QheMCj
Earthjustice’s “Judging the Environment” campaign seeks to derail conservative judicial appointments by Republican Presidents, on the theory that such appointees are insensitive to environmental protection issues. A chief target of “Judging the Environment” was William Myers, nominated by President Bush in 2004 to the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals. Earthjustice dubbed Myers “the most anti-environmental nominee in history.” Like Alliance for Justice and People for The American Way, Earthjustice objected to the appointment of Myers on grounds that he had worked as a lobbyist for mining and cattle interests in the Western United States. Myers’ appointment was eventually blocked by the filibuster of Democratic senators.
Posted by: fd at April 27, 2024 11:29 AM
Discover the Networks on "Earth Justice": https://bit.ly/3QheMCj
Earthjustice’s “Judging the Environment” campaign seeks to derail conservative judicial appointments by Republican Presidents, on the theory that such appointees are insensitive to environmental protection issues. A chief target of “Judging the Environment” was William Myers, nominated by President Bush in 2004 to the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals. Earthjustice dubbed Myers “the most anti-environmental nominee in history.” Like Alliance for Justice and People for The American Way, Earthjustice objected to the appointment of Myers on grounds that he had worked as a lobbyist for mining and cattle interests in the Western United States. Myers’ appointment was eventually blocked by the filibuster of Democratic senators.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 27, 2024 05:37 PM (P5BPp)
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I'll settle for Trump not making things worse. Improvement is a fever dream.
If you're gonna burn garbage, you want to do it at a central facility. They have furnaces tuned to the source material, and it's cleaner, and they can harvest steam for some other purpose.
Solar sort of makes sense in Arizona. I can't have it because I don't own my lot. But for homes with tile roofs, and we have many many of those, the installers will break tiles and walk away or do something dumb like gluing them back together.
Note I wrote *will.* Roof tiles are amazing good at defending your home from Mother Nature. They are very vulnerable to minor human activity, though.
If you're gonna burn garbage, you want to do it at a central facility. They have furnaces tuned to the source material, and it's cleaner, and they can harvest steam for some other purpose.
Solar sort of makes sense in Arizona. I can't have it because I don't own my lot. But for homes with tile roofs, and we have many many of those, the installers will break tiles and walk away or do something dumb like gluing them back together.
Note I wrote *will.* Roof tiles are amazing good at defending your home from Mother Nature. They are very vulnerable to minor human activity, though.
Posted by: Gordon at April 27, 2024 05:42 PM (LJ/vx)
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I used to live in California. California has all these agencies with cute names like Calpirg, Caltrans. I always called the CPUC "CalPuke." A friend in San Diego (who's a lefty and frankly gets what she deserves) was complaining that they're getting dinged on their bill because they didn't reduce their energy usage enough. The only way they can reduce their energy usage is by not turning anything on at this point. Hello candles!
Something's got to be done about the Lefty judges. They're ruining this country.
Something's got to be done about the Lefty judges. They're ruining this country.
Posted by: Someone Else at April 27, 2024 07:28 PM (IrqeV)
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Thanks for the Tom T Hall rec K.T. The cream rises to the top.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at April 27, 2024 07:34 PM (xcxpd)
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The reason the California legislature does not listen to Loretta Lynch on rates is because she was the president of the California PUC in 2001, during the Great California Power Crisis that saw then Gov. Gray Davis recalled.
In February 2001, California governor Gray Davis stated, "Believe me, if I wanted to raise rates I could have solved this problem in 20 minutes."
Electric blackouts tend to concentrate the minds of voters. And California is teetering on the brink of major blackouts.
Unit 1 at the Diablo Canyon nuclear plant is due to permanently shut down on Nov. 2, 2024, a few days before Election Day. Institute rolling blackouts and even the numbskulls in California might vote Republican.
If they did, they would effectively guarantee the recall of Joe Biden.
In February 2001, California governor Gray Davis stated, "Believe me, if I wanted to raise rates I could have solved this problem in 20 minutes."
Electric blackouts tend to concentrate the minds of voters. And California is teetering on the brink of major blackouts.
Unit 1 at the Diablo Canyon nuclear plant is due to permanently shut down on Nov. 2, 2024, a few days before Election Day. Institute rolling blackouts and even the numbskulls in California might vote Republican.
If they did, they would effectively guarantee the recall of Joe Biden.
Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at April 27, 2024 09:24 PM (avPX7)
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Lots of intuitive and accurate comments.
Wanna know what I suspect to be true?
PG&E was extorted into expending a majority of its resources into building expensive, and with minimal financial returns, renewable energy systems (solar). This left no money for maintenance on the existing infrastructure. But there were still enough dividends to keep investors on board.
I’d also bet anyone, that the PUC board is comprised of ex-PG&E bigwigs with giant stock holdings in the company.
Wanna know what I suspect to be true?
PG&E was extorted into expending a majority of its resources into building expensive, and with minimal financial returns, renewable energy systems (solar). This left no money for maintenance on the existing infrastructure. But there were still enough dividends to keep investors on board.
I’d also bet anyone, that the PUC board is comprised of ex-PG&E bigwigs with giant stock holdings in the company.
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