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The House Intelligence Subcommittee Added an Amendment to the FISA Reauthorization Bill Drafting All Citizens Into the Business of Spying on Other Americans
It's being called the "Everybody's a Spy" act.
If you own a small business, and someone hops on to your wifi, the government can demand you become its unpaid spy and turn over all data it demands.
The US House of Representatives agreed to reauthorize a controversial spying law known as Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act last Friday without any meaningful reforms, dashing hopes that Congress might finally put a stop to intelligence agencies' warrantless surveillance of Americans' emails, text messages and phone calls. The vote not only reauthorized the act, though; it also vastly expanded the surveillance law enforcement can conduct. In a move that Senator Ron Wyden condemned as "terrifying", the House also doubled down on a surveillance authority that has been used against American protesters, journalists and political donors in a chilling assault on free speech. Section 702 in its current form allows the government to compel communications giants like Google and Verizon to turn over information. An amendment to the bill approved by the House vastly increases the law's scope. The Turner-Himes amendment -- so named for its champions Representatives Mike Turner and Jim Himes -- would permit federal law enforcement to also force "any other service provider" with access to communications equipment to hand over data. That means anyone with access to a wifi router, server or even phone -- anyone from a landlord to a laundromat -- could be required to help the government spy. The Senate is expected to vote on the House bill as soon as this week, and if it passes there, Joe Biden is likely to sign it. All Americans should be terrified by that prospect. ... While the Turner-Himes amendment lists some business types that are excepted from the requirement to help spy -- like dwellings and restaurants -- an almost limitless number of entities that provide wifi or just have access to Americans' devices could be roped into the government's surveillance operations. Using the wifi in your dentist office, hiring a cleaner who has access to your laptop, or even storing communications equipment in an office you rent could all expose you to increased risk of surveillance.
Bob Goodlatte and Mark Udall urge the Senate to block passage of the Everybody's a Spy Act:
As RISAA comes to the Senate, attention is now being cast on another amendment -- one from the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) that many have come to call the "Everyone's a Spy" provision. This measure was portrayed as a "narrow" definitional change to the law concerning electronic communications service providers -- big telecom and Internet companies -- which obligated them to cooperate with NSA surveillance. These big companies can be compelled to spy for the government, and then be subject to gag orders, forbidding them from telling customers they have been surveilled.
... The HPSCI amendment achieves this by including any service provider who has access to equipment that transmits communications. After critics complained that digital loungers in hotel lobbies and coffeehouses would have their data hoovered up by the government, the authors of this amendment provided carve-outs for hotels, restaurants, dwellings, and community centers. This was a good PR move. But this measure still applies to most everyone -- owners and operators of any facilities (other than the exempted categories) that house equipment used to store or carry data. If this became law, millions of American small business owners would have a legal obligation to hand over data that runs through their equipment. These small businesses could be forced to give the NSA direct access to their equipment, or else they might just copy messages en masse and turn them over. And when they're done with doing their part in mass surveillance, these small businesses would then be placed under a gag order to hide their activities from their customers.
Senators, including Rand Paul (of course), are vowing they'll block a vote on this sell-out.
Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was.
Senators in both parties are warning the expanded surveillance authority under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) could lapse after Friday because of a battle over amending the House bill, which has become a target of conservative Republicans and some Democrats. Opponents of the bill could drag the Senate debate past the 11:59 p.m. Friday deadline, which threatens to cause a lapse in warrantless surveillance authority that some lawmakers warn could leave the nation exposed to an attack at a dangerous time. "It would be a very big problem. FISA's incredibly important to alerting us of terrorist plots, for example. And I believe the threat of a terrorist attack is much higher than is being discussed," warned Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a senior member of the Senate Intelligence Committee. ... [I]t would take more than a week to process the bill on the Senate floor, and opponents of the legislation are threatening to push the debate past the Friday deadline unless they get time to debate and vote on changes to the bill. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), an outspoken critic of the FISA program, said he's willing to let it lapse over the weekend if he doesn't get changes to the bill considered on the Senate floor. "We need to debate -- we've had five years [to reauthorize the program] -- I would think we've got time to debate whether or not it's appropriate for our government to spy on its own citizens without a warrant," he said. Paul said he would agree to speed up the process depending on "how much debate the Democrats are willing to allow." But he said he would have no problem with letting the program lapse, arguing that the country and its intelligence agencies functioned well enough before Congress passed FISA in 1978.
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How Stasi
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 17, 2024 03:37 PM (R4t5M)
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Maybe Uncle Sugar will get you a nice steak and a bottle of bourbon if you spy on your family.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 17, 2024 03:38 PM (R4t5M)
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I think Rand should just point to the polls and ask"Do you want to give a Trump government all of this power?"
Shouldn't that kill this bill?
Shouldn't that kill this bill?
Posted by: SimoHayha at April 17, 2024 03:38 PM (N/k1H)
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corgis and otters called
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 17, 2024 03:39 PM (vtyCZ)
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Is Rand Paul the only non-compromised Senator?
Posted by: Consititutionalist at April 17, 2024 03:39 PM (VyD96)
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Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was.
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Listen, there are circumstances, and if we oppose him, then Democrats will win.
Go Team Red!
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Listen, there are circumstances, and if we oppose him, then Democrats will win.
Go Team Red!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:39 PM (GBKbO)
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Agreed that Johnson is as bad as McCarthy. I shouldn't be disappointed. I should have foreseen this. Shame on me for thinking he'd be different.
Posted by: 496 at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (EIBfx)
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5 Is Rand Paul the only non-compromised Senator?
Posted by: Consititutionalist at April 17, 2024 03:39 PM (VyD96)
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I'm sus, but it seems to be the case.
I trust none of 'em.
Posted by: Consititutionalist at April 17, 2024 03:39 PM (VyD96)
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I'm sus, but it seems to be the case.
I trust none of 'em.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm afraid that if this abomination doesn't pass, the FBI and its assorted stooges will stage a terror attack and claim that FISA would have stopped it. So what if some Americans get killed in the staged attack? That's more than acceptable to the FBI to enable its continued boot stamping on a human face—forever.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
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Saw some congress critter on TV who said some "intelligence" guy told him that if they didn't pass this then Americans would DIE!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (63Dwl)
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How long before we get round up for using https or a VPN on the charge of obstructing the government from conducting "official" business (aka spying)?
Posted by: How Maga at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (DB8j2)
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Come on, ace. They need those powers to stop fentanyl from flooding the country that the F.I.B. have done such a bangup job on for the past four years!
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 17, 2024 03:41 PM (vtyCZ)
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"Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was."
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"These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others."
- GOP
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"These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others."
- GOP
Posted by: Azathoth at April 17, 2024 03:41 PM (wb1YC)
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this motherfucker REPUBLICAN Mike Turner is a FASCIST SICKO. A scary WWIII tyrant. And Johnson cowers in front of him. This asshole has been pushing Ukes Ukes Ukes for 3 years now. A total PSYCHO
Posted by: jb at April 17, 2024 03:41 PM (K2ElL)
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Under W, "see something, say something" was literally fascism and a "chill wind" was blowing across America.
Now it's all, "if you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."
From the people breaking every law, regulation, standard, guideline, and norm to prosecute Trump.
Now it's all, "if you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."
From the people breaking every law, regulation, standard, guideline, and norm to prosecute Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 03:41 PM (yikga)
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But, but, but. We shouldn't replace Mike Johnson, it will show disunity in the repub party. Good riddance to bad trash and replace him before he sells us out again.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at April 17, 2024 03:41 PM (2NHgQ)
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7 Agreed that Johnson is as bad as McCarthy. I shouldn't be disappointed. I should have foreseen this. Shame on me for thinking he'd be different.
Posted by: 496 at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (EIBfx)
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I remember the debates here around the event of ousting McCarthy.
There were definitely optimistic voices that whomever replaced McCarthy would be some kind of conservative warrior, but I wasn't one of them. I expected status quo with a bloody establishment nose between the two periods of time.
The bloody establishment nose felt like it was worth it on its own, and I cheered on the establishment getting it in the pants for once.
Posted by: 496 at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (EIBfx)
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I remember the debates here around the event of ousting McCarthy.
There were definitely optimistic voices that whomever replaced McCarthy would be some kind of conservative warrior, but I wasn't one of them. I expected status quo with a bloody establishment nose between the two periods of time.
The bloody establishment nose felt like it was worth it on its own, and I cheered on the establishment getting it in the pants for once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:41 PM (GBKbO)
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Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was.
Posted by Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:36 PM Comments
Don't say that Ace! Our precious one vote majority is at stake.
Posted by Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:36 PM Comments
Don't say that Ace! Our precious one vote majority is at stake.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:41 PM (dGCAG)
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Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was.
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Me back when we were arguing about whether or not it was a good thing to oust McCarthy: Guys, it doesn't matter if Johnson isn't "naturally" any better than him, the fact that we already demonstrated we had the balls to get rid of the speaker means the next guy is going to be more fearful of his job and will better represent us.
Me now: Fucks sake....
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Me back when we were arguing about whether or not it was a good thing to oust McCarthy: Guys, it doesn't matter if Johnson isn't "naturally" any better than him, the fact that we already demonstrated we had the balls to get rid of the speaker means the next guy is going to be more fearful of his job and will better represent us.
Me now: Fucks sake....
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 17, 2024 03:42 PM (B9Prs)
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Anyone using public unsecured WiFi is asking for it anyway.
Too many are ignorant of the fact convenience means easy to hack.
But yeah the Stasi Section needs to go. Oh wait this is worse. At least the Stasi paid their informants.
Too many are ignorant of the fact convenience means easy to hack.
But yeah the Stasi Section needs to go. Oh wait this is worse. At least the Stasi paid their informants.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2024 03:42 PM (E+Lmw)
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17 There were definitely optimistic voices that whomever replaced McCarthy would be some kind of conservative warrior, but I wasn't one of them. I expected status quo with a bloody establishment nose between the two periods of time.
The bloody establishment nose felt like it was worth it on its own, and I cheered on the establishment getting it in the pants for once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:41 PM (GBKbO)
A Conservative Warrior will never make it through his primary to begin with.
Because the electorate is weak and made up of cowards.
The bloody establishment nose felt like it was worth it on its own, and I cheered on the establishment getting it in the pants for once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:41 PM (GBKbO)
A Conservative Warrior will never make it through his primary to begin with.
Because the electorate is weak and made up of cowards.
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 03:42 PM (UnA8+)
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Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:36 PM
Fact.
There's speculation that he's doing this to appease the RINO's to prevent them from leaving and giving Dems the majority. He's just a big enough pussy to let them do that.
There's also the relationship with Trump where he says they're 100% in sync on things, missing where Trump said "Let FISA die."
His 100% means different, I guess......
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:36 PM
Fact.
There's speculation that he's doing this to appease the RINO's to prevent them from leaving and giving Dems the majority. He's just a big enough pussy to let them do that.
There's also the relationship with Trump where he says they're 100% in sync on things, missing where Trump said "Let FISA die."
His 100% means different, I guess......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)
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Johnson is the Dem's buttboy:
@JackPosobiec 1h
SCOOP: Chuck Schumer was just on the Senate floor bragging to other members about Speaker Johnson giving Democrats everything they wanted in the Ukraine and foreign aid packages, per senior Republican official
@JackPosobiec 1h
SCOOP: Chuck Schumer was just on the Senate floor bragging to other members about Speaker Johnson giving Democrats everything they wanted in the Ukraine and foreign aid packages, per senior Republican official
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 17, 2024 03:43 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: DanMan at April 17, 2024 03:43 PM (8uzBS)
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Opponents of the bill could drag the Senate debate past the 11:59 p.m. Friday deadline, which threatens to cause a lapse in warrantless surveillance authority that some lawmakers warn could leave the nation exposed to an attack at a dangerous time.
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Not a problem. If they don't care how many terrorists they let across the border that can attack us at any time, I don't care if the nation is exposed to an attack because they can't spy on us.
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Not a problem. If they don't care how many terrorists they let across the border that can attack us at any time, I don't care if the nation is exposed to an attack because they can't spy on us.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:43 PM (lTGtQ)
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Saw some congress critter on TV who said some "intelligence" guy told him that if they didn't pass this then Americans would DIE!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (63Dwl)
News flash: If it passes, Americans will also then die.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (63Dwl)
News flash: If it passes, Americans will also then die.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:43 PM (dGCAG)
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The next asshole will be worse than this asshole.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 17, 2024 03:43 PM (R4t5M)
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19 Me back when we were arguing about whether or not it was a good thing to oust McCarthy: Guys, it doesn't matter if Johnson isn't "naturally" any better than him, the fact that we already demonstrated we had the balls to get rid of the speaker means the next guy is going to be more fearful of his job and will better represent us.
Me now: Fucks sake....
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 17, 2024 03:42 PM (B9Prs)
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Again, I present the theory that we've had that sudden rash of Establishment early retirements to protect Johnson.
With only a one-vote majority, it's now harder to make the case that everything will be fine and we'll have another Republican Speaker after the fracas starts. It's trying to win by making your own side weaker.
That's GOP establishment MO, and it has been for decades.
Me now: Fucks sake....
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 17, 2024 03:42 PM (B9Prs)
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Again, I present the theory that we've had that sudden rash of Establishment early retirements to protect Johnson.
With only a one-vote majority, it's now harder to make the case that everything will be fine and we'll have another Republican Speaker after the fracas starts. It's trying to win by making your own side weaker.
That's GOP establishment MO, and it has been for decades.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
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SCOOP: Chuck Schumer was just on the Senate floor bragging to other members about Speaker Johnson giving Democrats everything they wanted in the Ukraine and foreign aid packages, per senior Republican official
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 17, 2024 03:43 PM (IG4Id)
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For once, Schumer told the truth.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 17, 2024 03:43 PM (IG4Id)
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For once, Schumer told the truth.
Posted by: 496 at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (EIBfx)
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Notice how it is a Democrat who found this?
I guess it's because I didn't send $20 to the RNC to "fight the radical left and stop their attacks on America!"
I guess it's because I didn't send $20 to the RNC to "fight the radical left and stop their attacks on America!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (yikga)
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They've taken all the fun out of my window peeping with a cell phone hobby.
They've taken all the fun out of my window peeping with a cell phone hobby.
Posted by: Auspex at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (j4U/Z)
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>>>3 I think Rand should just point to the polls and ask"Do you want to give a Trump government all of this power?"
No, because they know the Deep State will be controlling it all.
No, because they know the Deep State will be controlling it all.
Posted by: ace at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (KRtlO)
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I'm afraid that if this abomination doesn't pass, the FBI and its assorted stooges will stage a terror attack and claim that FISA would have stopped it. So what if some Americans get killed in the staged attack? That's more than acceptable to the FBI to enable its continued boot stamping on a human face—forever.
Posted by: Elric Blade
It's a risk I'm willing to take.
Posted by: Elric Blade
It's a risk I'm willing to take.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (lTGtQ)
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These small businesses could be forced to give the NSA direct access to their equipment, or else they might just copy messages en masse and turn them over. And when they're done with doing their part in mass surveillance, these small businesses would then be placed under a gag order to hide their activities from their customers.
Starbucks having to give up info on BLM & Pantyfa.
That oughta be good for business.
Starbucks having to give up info on BLM & Pantyfa.
That oughta be good for business.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (gkpAx)
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32 >>>3 I think Rand should just point to the polls and ask"Do you want to give a Trump government all of this power?"
No, because they know the Deep State will be controlling it all.
Posted by: ace at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (KRtlO)
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"Hey. Stop paying attention."
-The GOPe
No, because they know the Deep State will be controlling it all.
Posted by: ace at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (KRtlO)
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"Hey. Stop paying attention."
-The GOPe
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (GBKbO)
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MTG for House Speaker!
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (pohLc)
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"Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was."
Not quite. I think Johnson is in an even tougher position with a thinner GOP majority and a majority of GOP being spineless jellyfish twats.
Plus, I think it more likely than not that there are a few more GOP shitstains secretly threatening retirement if Johnson doesn't do X and Y. These cocksuckers have extreme leverage because they hold the GOP majority -- and Johnson's Speakership -- in their hands.
But otherwise, I never expected Johnson to be that much better than McCarthy anyway.
Not quite. I think Johnson is in an even tougher position with a thinner GOP majority and a majority of GOP being spineless jellyfish twats.
Plus, I think it more likely than not that there are a few more GOP shitstains secretly threatening retirement if Johnson doesn't do X and Y. These cocksuckers have extreme leverage because they hold the GOP majority -- and Johnson's Speakership -- in their hands.
But otherwise, I never expected Johnson to be that much better than McCarthy anyway.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (iFTx/)
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Again, I present the theory that we've had that sudden rash of Establishment early retirements to protect Johnson.
With only a one-vote majority, it's now harder to make the case that everything will be fine and we'll have another Republican Speaker after the fracas starts. It's trying to win by making your own side weaker.
That's GOP establishment MO, and it has been for decades.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
Thanks, I hate it.
With only a one-vote majority, it's now harder to make the case that everything will be fine and we'll have another Republican Speaker after the fracas starts. It's trying to win by making your own side weaker.
That's GOP establishment MO, and it has been for decades.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
Thanks, I hate it.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (B9Prs)
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Me back when we were arguing about whether or not it was a good thing to oust McCarthy: Guys, it doesn't matter if Johnson isn't "naturally" any better than him, the fact that we already demonstrated we had the balls to get rid of the speaker means the next guy is going to be more fearful of his job and will better represent us.
Me now: Fucks sake....
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 17, 2024 03:42 PM (B9Prs)
You know who wasn't fooled by Johnson?
Marjorie Taylor Green.
But she talks funny, so...
Me now: Fucks sake....
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 17, 2024 03:42 PM (B9Prs)
You know who wasn't fooled by Johnson?
Marjorie Taylor Green.
But she talks funny, so...
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:46 PM (dGCAG)
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Sometimes I think Wile E Coyote does not necessarily have Roadrunner's best interest at heart.
Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at April 17, 2024 03:46 PM (gxokI)
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What did the GOPe do in 2018 in order to try and enhance its own power within the party?
That's right, it got 40 backbenchers to retire.
The GOPe only knows how to win within the GOP by making it weaker and then buying off those that are left.
That's right, it got 40 backbenchers to retire.
The GOPe only knows how to win within the GOP by making it weaker and then buying off those that are left.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:46 PM (GBKbO)
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If I report all of YOU here, do I get cash? I'll do it.
Posted by: goatexchange at April 17, 2024 03:46 PM (LUZWZ)
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How come the Dems never have to compromise, regardless of who's in the majority, yet the Republicans can't get shit done unless they capitulate to every last wish and desire of the Dems?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Outside of Life at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (89Sog)
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But.... Johnson is CHRISTIAN! He does Bible! That's what really matters, that he does churchy things, like Martin Luther King did.
Posted by: Marky Mark Tapscott at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (A7vtb)
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'The Lives of Others'.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (sAmhv)
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MTG for House Speaker!
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (pohLc)
If nothing else, this would be entertaining as f*ck.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (pohLc)
If nothing else, this would be entertaining as f*ck.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)
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Man. I miss Monty.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (pohLc)
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like Martin Luther King did.
Posted by: Marky Mark Tapscott at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (A7vtb)
I'm betting Johnson isn't banging white, blonde hookers like King was, tho.
Posted by: Marky Mark Tapscott at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (A7vtb)
I'm betting Johnson isn't banging white, blonde hookers like King was, tho.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)
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What the heck, Republicans?
Don't just pay lip service and say you won't vote for it. Do everything in the rules of order to throw a monkey wrench in the works. Grind proceedings to a halt.
Just kidding. We know you all support it.
Don't just pay lip service and say you won't vote for it. Do everything in the rules of order to throw a monkey wrench in the works. Grind proceedings to a halt.
Just kidding. We know you all support it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (MFZft)
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That's GOP establishment MO, and it has been for decades.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
Thanks, I hate it.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (B9Prs)
I'll go one further. They tanked the 2022 election, which should have been an easy layup (sorry for the mixed metaphors... no, not sorry).
Keep the game going, because goshdarnit, we sure can campaign on getting tough on Hunter, and impeaching Mayorga, but if we had majorities in both houses, we might actually have to do some things!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
Thanks, I hate it.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (B9Prs)
I'll go one further. They tanked the 2022 election, which should have been an easy layup (sorry for the mixed metaphors... no, not sorry).
Keep the game going, because goshdarnit, we sure can campaign on getting tough on Hunter, and impeaching Mayorga, but if we had majorities in both houses, we might actually have to do some things!
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (dGCAG)
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Johnson is CHRISTIAN! He does Bible! That's what really matters, that he does churchy things, like Martin Luther King did.
Posted by: Marky Mark Tapscott at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (A7vtb)
Brutha Man was ridin' dirty!
Posted by: Marky Mark Tapscott at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (A7vtb)
Brutha Man was ridin' dirty!
Posted by: Jeremiah Wright at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (R4t5M)
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There's no winning this game. Suppose, just for fun, that the GOP was a real opposition party and they succeeded in killing FISA.
The intelligence apparat would very quickly manufacture a terrorist attack to stun the American people into frightened obedience, then FISA would be renewed anyway.
The intelligence apparat would very quickly manufacture a terrorist attack to stun the American people into frightened obedience, then FISA would be renewed anyway.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (woPEM)
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Man. I miss Monty.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (pohLc)
Agreed.
I miss Chaves the Hugo the most. His color commentary of these times would be EPIC.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (pohLc)
Agreed.
I miss Chaves the Hugo the most. His color commentary of these times would be EPIC.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)
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does this really surprise any of us?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (B1FKF)
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"if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear..."
Posted by: brak at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (25k9m)
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53 There's no winning this game. Suppose, just for fun, that the GOP was a real opposition party and they succeeded in killing FISA.
The intelligence apparat would very quickly manufacture a terrorist attack to stun the American people into frightened obedience, then FISA would be renewed anyway.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (woPEM)
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Alternate take:
They'd just keep doing it because fuck you.
The intelligence apparat would very quickly manufacture a terrorist attack to stun the American people into frightened obedience, then FISA would be renewed anyway.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (woPEM)
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Alternate take:
They'd just keep doing it because fuck you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (GBKbO)
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if this passes, please dear god let PDJT win in november and make a YUGE deal of using it on day one against democrats like antifa and the squad...
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (nXhwP)
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Marjorie Taylor Green said pussy
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (MFZft)
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And you know Johnson is totally blindsided that conservatives hate this bill?
And honestly thought he tricked us with the voting bill that everyone knows is DOA in the Senate?
Notice also that all the stories smearing his family just kinda went away a few months back?
When have you ever seen the left stop attacking someone for no reason?
And honestly thought he tricked us with the voting bill that everyone knows is DOA in the Senate?
Notice also that all the stories smearing his family just kinda went away a few months back?
When have you ever seen the left stop attacking someone for no reason?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 03:50 PM (yikga)
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Thomas Massie and Rand Paul both want Mike Johnson gone as SOTH.
Posted by: Oglebay at April 17, 2024 03:50 PM (ogTiX)
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I'm sure they'll only use it against muslim terrorists...
Posted by: steevy at April 17, 2024 03:50 PM (FQmDC)
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It's all theater: what's the functional difference between Pelosi, McCarthy and Johnson? Nothing.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at April 17, 2024 03:50 PM (PWI4f)
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if this passes, please dear god let PDJT win in november and make a YUGE deal of using it on day one against democrats like antifa and the squad...
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (nXhwP)
He wouldn't be allowed to and the media would be alerted to his actions IMMEDIATELY.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (nXhwP)
He wouldn't be allowed to and the media would be alerted to his actions IMMEDIATELY.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:50 PM (Zz0t1)
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Somehow, I don't get the sense that people who let >10M unvetted illegals across the border are all that concerned with the safety and security of the American people.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 03:50 PM (CsUN+)
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I think Rand should just point to the polls and ask "Do you want to give a Trump government all of this power?"
Shouldn't that kill this bill?
Posted by: SimoHayha at April 17, 2024 03:38 PM (N/k1H)
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It's a bit of an empty threat. The Deep State will never allow Trump to exercise that power or authority.
Shouldn't that kill this bill?
Posted by: SimoHayha at April 17, 2024 03:38 PM (N/k1H)
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It's a bit of an empty threat. The Deep State will never allow Trump to exercise that power or authority.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 17, 2024 03:50 PM (7fElN)
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43 How come the Dems never have to compromise, regardless of who's in the majority, yet the Republicans can't get shit done unless they capitulate to every last wish and desire of the Dems?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)
Because Demoncrats don't have souls.
The GOPe thinks that if they fight, they'll go to hell.
They'd rather just collect their table scraps from Big Daddy Democrat.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)
Because Demoncrats don't have souls.
The GOPe thinks that if they fight, they'll go to hell.
They'd rather just collect their table scraps from Big Daddy Democrat.
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (pohLc)
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Section 702 in its current form allows the government to compel communications giants like Google and Verizon to turn over information. An amendment to the bill approved by the House vastly increases the law's scope. ... force "any other service provider" with access to communications equipment to hand over data. That means anyone with access to a wifi router, server or even phone ... could be required to help the government spy.
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I'll bet it's worse than that, and that a private individual or family that has ever allowed anyone else to use the network will be classed as a "service provider." You had a guest and let him use your WiFi? Congratulations, you're a service provider. Hand over the logs.
This will be interesting from an ISP standpoint, too. Consumer internet access usually has explicit prohibition against using it as a service provider (you can't buy a gigabit connection and then sell your WiFi password to your neighbor, for example). If *everyone* is now a "service provider," then that prohibition will become untenable.
Log nothing. Ever. It makes troubleshooting harder, but you can't turn over what you don't have.
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I'll bet it's worse than that, and that a private individual or family that has ever allowed anyone else to use the network will be classed as a "service provider." You had a guest and let him use your WiFi? Congratulations, you're a service provider. Hand over the logs.
This will be interesting from an ISP standpoint, too. Consumer internet access usually has explicit prohibition against using it as a service provider (you can't buy a gigabit connection and then sell your WiFi password to your neighbor, for example). If *everyone* is now a "service provider," then that prohibition will become untenable.
Log nothing. Ever. It makes troubleshooting harder, but you can't turn over what you don't have.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (HnUIn)
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I'd say fuck Johnson, but the ridicule round here would be never ending.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (4p0Xq)
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There's no winning this game. Suppose, just for fun, that the GOP was a real opposition party and they succeeded in killing FISA.
The intelligence apparat would very quickly manufacture a terrorist attack to stun the American people into frightened obedience, then FISA would be renewed anyway.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (woPEM)
Massa whip me if I get uppity. I don't need no chains, I ain't goin' nowhere.
The intelligence apparat would very quickly manufacture a terrorist attack to stun the American people into frightened obedience, then FISA would be renewed anyway.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (woPEM)
Massa whip me if I get uppity. I don't need no chains, I ain't goin' nowhere.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (dGCAG)
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While the Turner-Himes amendment lists some business types that are excepted from the requirement to help spy -- like dwellings and restaurants -- an almost limitless number of entities that provide wifi or just have access to Americans' devices could be roped into the government's surveillance operations.
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You can be sure that those exemptions are so narrow as to be useless.
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You can be sure that those exemptions are so narrow as to be useless.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (HnUIn)
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Oh good, they’re reauthorizing and reforming a law they never bothered to follow in the first place.
Things should starting getting a lot better around here any day now.
Things should starting getting a lot better around here any day now.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (JTwsP)
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I miss Chaves the Hugo the most. His color commentary of these times would be EPIC.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)
the man had a gift.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)
the man had a gift.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (xPJvm)
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Republicans "hold the majority" in the House, but can't even stop horrific bills like this.
Not to worry, the senate is ready for LOTS of failure theatre, though!
They can allow 30+ senators to pretend they care about the constitution and still pass this law. WHAT A BOON FOR THEM!
Not to worry, the senate is ready for LOTS of failure theatre, though!
They can allow 30+ senators to pretend they care about the constitution and still pass this law. WHAT A BOON FOR THEM!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (JMAcK)
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Come on, guys. Slavery isn't that bad. You have job security.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (lTGtQ)
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70 I'd say fuck Johnson, but the ridicule round here would be never ending.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (4p0Xq)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (4p0Xq)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (GBKbO)
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Not quite. I think Johnson is in an even tougher position with a thinner GOP majority and a majority of GOP being spineless jellyfish twats.
The unspoken premise of this comment is that politics is as it represents itself to be, rather than a stage production to deceive the public in all things.
If one party opposed the surveillance state, it would not exist, in much the same way that if one party wanted limited government or smaller budgets, government would differ. But neither party wants these things any more than either one wants illegal immigration brought under control.
The unspoken premise of this comment is that politics is as it represents itself to be, rather than a stage production to deceive the public in all things.
If one party opposed the surveillance state, it would not exist, in much the same way that if one party wanted limited government or smaller budgets, government would differ. But neither party wants these things any more than either one wants illegal immigration brought under control.
Posted by: It's All Lies at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (2DpKB)
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Do we at least get a spy kit with a deerstalker and magnifying glass?
Posted by: Piper at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (ZdaMQ)
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the man had a gift.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (xPJvm)
Fo SHO!
the man had a gift.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (xPJvm)
Fo SHO!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (Zz0t1)
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well the GOPe is going to give the dems the house via retirement to stop the bad orange man anyway so johnson will be gone no matter what
Posted by: brak at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (25k9m)
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49 I'm betting Johnson isn't banging white, blonde hookers like King was, tho.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Oh, he probably is.
They're just 13 year old boys.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Oh, he probably is.
They're just 13 year old boys.
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (MFZft)
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What woke? There's no woke on campus.... Oh, shit....
@AvivaKlompas
Congressman Jim Banks: During orientation at the Columbia School of Social Work at Columbia University, students are given a glossary with the word Ashkenormativity. It is defined here as: "A system of oppression that favors white Jews based on the assumption that all Jewish folx are Ashkenazi or from western Europe"
@AvivaKlompas
Congressman Jim Banks: During orientation at the Columbia School of Social Work at Columbia University, students are given a glossary with the word Ashkenormativity. It is defined here as: "A system of oppression that favors white Jews based on the assumption that all Jewish folx are Ashkenazi or from western Europe"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (IG4Id)
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How soon until every business must be a spy: Verizon, AT&T, Comcast...?
Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (fxCK2)
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But otherwise, I never expected Johnson to be that much better than McCarthy anyway.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (iFTx/)
Is there one person here that believes McCarthy would be blocking this if he were still Speaker?
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:45 PM (iFTx/)
Is there one person here that believes McCarthy would be blocking this if he were still Speaker?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (tkR6S)
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And it's Chavez. Damn fingers.
No disrespect meant. Chavez the Hugo.
King of the color commentary, hands down.
No disrespect meant. Chavez the Hugo.
King of the color commentary, hands down.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)
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84 Rand won't vote for it.
He won't gum up the works, but he won't vote for it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (MFZft)
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He probably just needs to enforce the requirement that bills be read in full on the floor to slow it down enough to reach the Friday evening deadline.
Will he do it? Doubtful.
He won't gum up the works, but he won't vote for it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (MFZft)
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He probably just needs to enforce the requirement that bills be read in full on the floor to slow it down enough to reach the Friday evening deadline.
Will he do it? Doubtful.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm sure they'll only use it against muslim terrorists...
Posted by: steevy at April 17, 2024 03:50 PM
You misspelled anti abortion prayer groups.
Posted by: steevy at April 17, 2024 03:50 PM
You misspelled anti abortion prayer groups.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (4p0Xq)
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I'd say fuck Johnson, but the ridicule round here would be never ending.
Posted by: Minnfidel
Right, because the people who want Johnson gone would never stoop to ad hominem attacks.
Please.
Posted by: Minnfidel
Right, because the people who want Johnson gone would never stoop to ad hominem attacks.
Please.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 03:53 PM (CsUN+)
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re: "How come the Dems never have to compromise, regardless of who's in the majority, yet the Republicans can't get shit done unless they capitulate to every last wish and desire of the Dems?"
actually the dems pull this on the repubs all the time and usually get away with it, but watch how they make another horrible deal with china over steel tariffs.
endless war between ukraine and russian but demands that israel agree to a ceasefile with hamas. it's like it a genetic disorder.
actually the dems pull this on the repubs all the time and usually get away with it, but watch how they make another horrible deal with china over steel tariffs.
endless war between ukraine and russian but demands that israel agree to a ceasefile with hamas. it's like it a genetic disorder.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (B1FKF)
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I guess I should have voted harder.
Posted by: Roberto at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (bkf/+)
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Marjorie Taylor Green said pussy
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (MFZft)
And in certain lighting, looks kinda orange.
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (MFZft)
And in certain lighting, looks kinda orange.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (dGCAG)
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And when they're done with doing their part in mass surveillance, these small businesses would then be placed under a gag order to hide their activities from their customers.
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Nothing new about that. It broke back in the mid-aughts that if a communications entity receives a National Security Letter (what they used to demand data without a warrant), the entity is prohibited from disclosing that they received an NSL.
They even declared that a dead-man's switch - a statement of "We did not receive a National Security Letter today" on the website, for example, that does not get published unless it's true - is also in violation.
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Nothing new about that. It broke back in the mid-aughts that if a communications entity receives a National Security Letter (what they used to demand data without a warrant), the entity is prohibited from disclosing that they received an NSL.
They even declared that a dead-man's switch - a statement of "We did not receive a National Security Letter today" on the website, for example, that does not get published unless it's true - is also in violation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (HnUIn)
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Jack Poso @JackPosobiec 58m
SCOOP: Chuck Schumer was just on the Senate floor bragging to other members about Speaker Johnson giving Democrats everything they wanted in the Ukraine and foreign aid packages, per senior Republican official
SCOOP: Chuck Schumer was just on the Senate floor bragging to other members about Speaker Johnson giving Democrats everything they wanted in the Ukraine and foreign aid packages, per senior Republican official
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (vtyCZ)
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The Cloward-Pivening proceeds apace.
Even if the federal appeals Courts and SCOTUS functioned perfectly (which they obviously do not) there are just not enough lawyers and judges in the world to be able to vindicate every Constitutional right when legions of anti Americans in our government share none of the values codified in the Constitution, have no faith in God and who operate by a code of just doing whatever they can get away with, based on whatever they think expedient at the time.
Even if the federal appeals Courts and SCOTUS functioned perfectly (which they obviously do not) there are just not enough lawyers and judges in the world to be able to vindicate every Constitutional right when legions of anti Americans in our government share none of the values codified in the Constitution, have no faith in God and who operate by a code of just doing whatever they can get away with, based on whatever they think expedient at the time.
Posted by: Zek at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (5FPX4)
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69 I'll bet it's worse than that, and that a private individual or family that has ever allowed anyone else to use the network will be classed as a "service provider." You had a guest and let him use your WiFi? Congratulations, you're a service provider. Hand over the logs.
This will be interesting from an ISP standpoint, too. Consumer internet access usually has explicit prohibition against using it as a service provider (you can't buy a gigabit connection and then sell your WiFi password to your neighbor, for example). If *everyone* is now a "service provider," then that prohibition will become untenable.
Log nothing. Ever. It makes troubleshooting harder, but you can't turn over what you don't have.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (HnUIn)
I'll go one step further.
You have a roommate, but the internet bill is in your name? Service Provider. Your spouse didn't take your last name? Service Provider.
This will be interesting from an ISP standpoint, too. Consumer internet access usually has explicit prohibition against using it as a service provider (you can't buy a gigabit connection and then sell your WiFi password to your neighbor, for example). If *everyone* is now a "service provider," then that prohibition will become untenable.
Log nothing. Ever. It makes troubleshooting harder, but you can't turn over what you don't have.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (HnUIn)
I'll go one step further.
You have a roommate, but the internet bill is in your name? Service Provider. Your spouse didn't take your last name? Service Provider.
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (UnA8+)
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Hold my beer….
Posted by: HanksJohnson at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (Gfz8S)
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This is what happens when you don't donate to the GOP when the 3 for 1 matching fund offer comes up.
This is what happens when you don't donate to the GOP when the 3 for 1 matching fund offer comes up.
Posted by: Auspex at April 17, 2024 03:55 PM (j4U/Z)
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"We need to debate -- we've had five years [to reauthorize the program] -- I would think we've got time to debate whether or not it's appropriate for our government to spy on its own citizens without a warrant," he said.
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LOL. You can block it (maybe), but you can't get a "debate" on it. The time for debate is long over. This is a police state dependent on ever increasing the panopticon. There is no room for "debate" when the state's primary imperative depends on it.
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LOL. You can block it (maybe), but you can't get a "debate" on it. The time for debate is long over. This is a police state dependent on ever increasing the panopticon. There is no room for "debate" when the state's primary imperative depends on it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 03:55 PM (HnUIn)
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At this point, it's probably fair to assume every member of Congress has gotten busy with a barnyard animal, and Bob from NSA has informed all of them he has the video.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at April 17, 2024 03:55 PM (HMUyG)
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70 I'd say fuck Johnson, but the ridicule round here would be never ending.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (4p0Xq)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM
Johnson = slang for male reproductive organ. The cretins around here would have a field day!
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 17, 2024 03:51 PM (4p0Xq)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM
Johnson = slang for male reproductive organ. The cretins around here would have a field day!
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 17, 2024 03:55 PM (4p0Xq)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (B1FKF)
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I would like someone to explain how Johnson, who has made some regrettable errors, wouldn't be be better than Jefferies or Pelosi.
Posted by: hurricane567 at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (Zn49B)
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I'm trying to figure out why they want this bill.
The NSA has been illegally recording phone calls and intercepting emails for decades. Nobody is going to prosecute them.
I guess it is just to make sure that it is clear in black and white letters that Americans don't have freedom anymore.
The NSA has been illegally recording phone calls and intercepting emails for decades. Nobody is going to prosecute them.
I guess it is just to make sure that it is clear in black and white letters that Americans don't have freedom anymore.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (FVME7)
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Johnson = slang for male reproductive organ. The cretins around here would have a field day!
Ah, I misunderstood your comment. I should have guessed that penises would figure prominently.
Ah, I misunderstood your comment. I should have guessed that penises would figure prominently.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (CsUN+)
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355 353
A good friend of mine got married to a woman with whom he made eye contact, across a bar. She was Brazilian, he spoke no Portuguese, she spoke no English. The marriage (his 3rd) did not last.
Where do we find such men?
Yes, thank you, I'll have another. My best AoS comments are during Junk Time.
Posted by: goatexchange at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (LUZWZ)
What branch was he in?
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (NxC5+)
Willowed from last thread.
A good friend of mine got married to a woman with whom he made eye contact, across a bar. She was Brazilian, he spoke no Portuguese, she spoke no English. The marriage (his 3rd) did not last.
Where do we find such men?
Yes, thank you, I'll have another. My best AoS comments are during Junk Time.
Posted by: goatexchange at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (LUZWZ)
What branch was he in?
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2024 03:54 PM (NxC5+)
Willowed from last thread.
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (NxC5+)
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This is what happens when you don't donate to the GOP when the 3 for 1 matching fund offer comes up.
we were so close to SHUTTING DOWN the FAR LEFT'S RADICAL AGENDA
we were so close to SHUTTING DOWN the FAR LEFT'S RADICAL AGENDA
Posted by: brak at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (25k9m)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (KbCG3)
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The intelligence community is going to do whatever they want , whenever they want, to whoever they want no matter what Congress does.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (JTwsP)
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The unspoken premise of this comment is that politics is as it represents itself to be, rather than a stage production to deceive the public in all things.
If one party opposed the surveillance state, it would not exist, in much the same way that if one party wanted limited government or smaller budgets, government would differ. But neither party wants these things any more than either one wants illegal immigration brought under control.
Posted by: It's All Lies at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (2DpKB)
You know who still talks about this? Justin Amash.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
If one party opposed the surveillance state, it would not exist, in much the same way that if one party wanted limited government or smaller budgets, government would differ. But neither party wants these things any more than either one wants illegal immigration brought under control.
Posted by: It's All Lies at April 17, 2024 03:52 PM (2DpKB)
You know who still talks about this? Justin Amash.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)
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Welp. In other news, Sleepy Joe Biden is so confused !
Posted by: Sean "Ham 'N Egger" Hannity at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (5FPX4)
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I can only guess that, when Johnson got a classified briefing, they showed pics of his Johnson where it didn't belong.
This is why I'm more pro-MTG than most. I really don't much care about the exact timing of our losses. We absolutely need to put fear in these bastards' souls.
This is why I'm more pro-MTG than most. I really don't much care about the exact timing of our losses. We absolutely need to put fear in these bastards' souls.
Posted by: Eeyore at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (1bNHn)
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This is what happens when you don't donate to the GOP when the 3 for 1 matching fund offer comes up.
we were so close to SHUTTING DOWN the FAR LEFT'S RADICAL AGENDA
What do they do when the old lies no longer work?
Personally, I'd send them money if they said Nancy Grace would have to do the Walk of Atonement, or if Mitt Romney was going to be the star of the Aztec Temple recreation.
we were so close to SHUTTING DOWN the FAR LEFT'S RADICAL AGENDA
What do they do when the old lies no longer work?
Personally, I'd send them money if they said Nancy Grace would have to do the Walk of Atonement, or if Mitt Romney was going to be the star of the Aztec Temple recreation.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (CsUN+)
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At least now the "Republicans gave Putin Ukraine" argument will go away. For a couple days. Peter Zeihan will be happy.
At least now the "Republicans gave Putin Ukraine" argument will go away. For a couple days. Peter Zeihan will be happy.
Posted by: Auspex at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (j4U/Z)
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9 I'm afraid that if this abomination doesn't pass, the FBI and its assorted stooges will stage a terror attack and claim that FISA would have stopped it. So what if some Americans get killed in the staged attack? That's more than acceptable to the FBI to enable its continued boot stamping on a human face—forever.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
My answer to this is, which Americans?
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
My answer to this is, which Americans?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (KbCG3)
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112 You know who still talks about this? Justin Amash.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)
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Buying into Russian collusion and pushing it for years leaves an impression on most people.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)
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Buying into Russian collusion and pushing it for years leaves an impression on most people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
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"We need to debate -- we've had five years [to reauthorize the program] -- I would think we've got time to debate whether or not it's appropriate for our government to spy on its own citizens without a warrant," he said.
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Not to mention that even if not reauthorized, the present FISA law continues in effect for 365 days.
So, like the fabled "sky is falling government shutdown manufactured crises," there's no f*CKING hurry here. Scaremongering Failure Theater at its finest ...
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Not to mention that even if not reauthorized, the present FISA law continues in effect for 365 days.
So, like the fabled "sky is falling government shutdown manufactured crises," there's no f*CKING hurry here. Scaremongering Failure Theater at its finest ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (m90zN)
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The intelligence community is going to do whatever they want , whenever they want, to whoever they want no matter what Congress does.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (JTwsP)
Sounds like treason.
A president who understands the constitution would round up everyone in those agencies, put them in front of juries, and/or firing squads, and take away their power.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (JTwsP)
Sounds like treason.
A president who understands the constitution would round up everyone in those agencies, put them in front of juries, and/or firing squads, and take away their power.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:59 PM (dGCAG)
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"A president who understands the constitution would round up everyone in those agencies, put them in front of juries, and/or firing squads, and take away their power."
That didn't work out so well.
That didn't work out so well.
Posted by: Zombie JFK at April 17, 2024 03:59 PM (5FPX4)
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112 You know who still talks about this? Justin Amash.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)
We get betrayed so often that we HAVE to be on the "One Strike, You're Out" system.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)
We get betrayed so often that we HAVE to be on the "One Strike, You're Out" system.
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 04:00 PM (UnA8+)
123
You know who still talks about this? Justin Amash.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)
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Buying into Russian collusion and pushing it for years leaves an impression on most people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, he seemed to be duped and/or he hates Trump for some reason he's not saying otherwise.
Not a good look. But he's generally right about the corruption of the Congress.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)
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Buying into Russian collusion and pushing it for years leaves an impression on most people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, he seemed to be duped and/or he hates Trump for some reason he's not saying otherwise.
Not a good look. But he's generally right about the corruption of the Congress.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 04:00 PM (dGCAG)
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Personally, I'd send them money if they said Nancy Grace would have to do the Walk of Atonement, or if Mitt Romney was going to be the star of the Aztec Temple recreation.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM
I'd donate if they had a state fair kind of thing, but instead of the dunk tank it was Mitt and co. sitting on a trebuchet basket. I'd drain my savings for that.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM
I'd donate if they had a state fair kind of thing, but instead of the dunk tank it was Mitt and co. sitting on a trebuchet basket. I'd drain my savings for that.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 17, 2024 04:00 PM (4p0Xq)
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With only a one-vote majority, it's now harder to make the case that everything will be fine and we'll have another Republican Speaker after the fracas starts. It's trying to win by making your own side weaker.
That's GOP establishment MO, and it has been for decades.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
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As I've said in the past, the GOPe has NO interest in wielding power, only in enjoying the perks that come with the job. They are perfectly happy to watch the Dems torch the country to the ground if that means they get an extra 1% of the crumbs offered by the Dems in various spending bills.
That's GOP establishment MO, and it has been for decades.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
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As I've said in the past, the GOPe has NO interest in wielding power, only in enjoying the perks that come with the job. They are perfectly happy to watch the Dems torch the country to the ground if that means they get an extra 1% of the crumbs offered by the Dems in various spending bills.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 17, 2024 04:00 PM (7fElN)
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That didn't work out so well.
Posted by: Zombie JFK at April 17, 2024 03:59 PM (5FPX4)
What's the ol' saying? If at first you don't succeed...
We have more Kennedys to spare. They can't kill them all.
Posted by: Zombie JFK at April 17, 2024 03:59 PM (5FPX4)
What's the ol' saying? If at first you don't succeed...
We have more Kennedys to spare. They can't kill them all.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 04:01 PM (dGCAG)
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9 I'm afraid that if this abomination doesn't pass, the FBI and its assorted stooges will stage a terror attack and claim that FISA would have stopped it. So what if some Americans get killed in the staged attack? That's more than acceptable to the FBI to enable its continued boot stamping on a human face—forever.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
What makes you think this ain't already in the 'plan'?
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
What makes you think this ain't already in the 'plan'?
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2024 04:02 PM (NxC5+)
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"You know who still talks about this? Justin Amash."
And Glenn Greenwald. Though his obsessive Israel bashing has been pretty off putting lately.
And Glenn Greenwald. Though his obsessive Israel bashing has been pretty off putting lately.
Posted by: Zek at April 17, 2024 04:02 PM (5FPX4)
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114 I can only guess that, when Johnson got a classified briefing, they showed pics of his Johnson where it didn't belong.
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Well, his is Mr. Peabody's pet boy Sherman.
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Well, his is Mr. Peabody's pet boy Sherman.
Posted by: Orson at April 17, 2024 04:02 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Potato Of The United States at April 17, 2024 04:02 PM (t6XCL)
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123 Yeah, he seemed to be duped and/or he hates Trump for some reason he's not saying otherwise.
Not a good look. But he's generally right about the corruption of the Congress.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 04:00 PM (dGCAG)
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Dude probably had the same security briefings as the rest of Congress and knew that Russian collusion was bullshit.
And he still pushed it for years.
But his principles are great. Whatever. He advanced leftist lies in order to prevent conservative governance. When the GOP had control of the three branches of government, he didn't try to get Paul Ryan to defund NPR, he spent his time lying about Trump.
Seriously, out of all the untrustworthy weasels who've occupied official posts in DC over the past 100 years, he's bottom of the barrel.
Not a good look. But he's generally right about the corruption of the Congress.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 04:00 PM (dGCAG)
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Dude probably had the same security briefings as the rest of Congress and knew that Russian collusion was bullshit.
And he still pushed it for years.
But his principles are great. Whatever. He advanced leftist lies in order to prevent conservative governance. When the GOP had control of the three branches of government, he didn't try to get Paul Ryan to defund NPR, he spent his time lying about Trump.
Seriously, out of all the untrustworthy weasels who've occupied official posts in DC over the past 100 years, he's bottom of the barrel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:02 PM (GBKbO)
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Is it just going to take another generation for Republicans to figure out that they aren't allies anymore with law enforcement and national security ?
It's like every conservative in power still has this "boomer" Tom Clancy view of the Pentagon, FBI, CIA and NSA.
It's like every conservative in power still has this "boomer" Tom Clancy view of the Pentagon, FBI, CIA and NSA.
Posted by: Blago at April 17, 2024 04:03 PM (wMRY8)
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Guys, guys, guys. You were wrong about NPR.
Ben Mullin
@BenMullin
new: About 50 NPR employees sign a letter to CEO Katherine Maher and top editor Edith Chapin calling for, among other things, a public rebuke of the “factual inaccuracies and elisions” in Uri Berliner’s Free Press essay.
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I mean, they can't all be lying.
Ben Mullin
@BenMullin
new: About 50 NPR employees sign a letter to CEO Katherine Maher and top editor Edith Chapin calling for, among other things, a public rebuke of the “factual inaccuracies and elisions” in Uri Berliner’s Free Press essay.
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I mean, they can't all be lying.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:03 PM (FVME7)
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"It would be a very big problem. FISA's incredibly important to alerting us of terrorist plots, for example. And I believe the threat of a terrorist attack is much higher than is being discussed," warned Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a senior member of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
And why would terrorist "plots" be so thick with anticipation at this time? Why, Susie, why?
My wife and I were discussing this thing this morning at breakfast. Pretty breathtaking, in its entirety.
Betcha it passes the Senate easily.
And yeah, the Republic is good and dead now.
And why would terrorist "plots" be so thick with anticipation at this time? Why, Susie, why?
My wife and I were discussing this thing this morning at breakfast. Pretty breathtaking, in its entirety.
Betcha it passes the Senate easily.
And yeah, the Republic is good and dead now.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 17, 2024 04:03 PM (vcOmj)
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I'm trying to figure out why they want this bill.
The NSA has been illegally recording phone calls and intercepting emails for decades. Nobody is going to prosecute them. ...
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (lTGtQ)
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They can't easily scrape access logs from millions of devices and device types. If they want local device logs, they have to get them from the device's owner, and that means they need a warrant or a subpoena, which means they need due process of some kind, even if it's just for show.
This changes that. They can just demand it and then gag you. This is not generally useful, but it will be quite useful when they have a target in mind. John Doe has raised the Party's ire. They know he went to a conference on July 13. They know he stayed at a Best Western. They want his access logs from the hotel to get detailed specifics that the ISP may not have. Today, they have to get a warrant or a subpoena to obtain those. Tomorrow, they can just demand it.
This will do *nothing* for national security, but it sure will give them more capability when it comes to gathering ever more data on whoever they're targeting for any reason, with no due process.
The NSA has been illegally recording phone calls and intercepting emails for decades. Nobody is going to prosecute them. ...
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (lTGtQ)
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They can't easily scrape access logs from millions of devices and device types. If they want local device logs, they have to get them from the device's owner, and that means they need a warrant or a subpoena, which means they need due process of some kind, even if it's just for show.
This changes that. They can just demand it and then gag you. This is not generally useful, but it will be quite useful when they have a target in mind. John Doe has raised the Party's ire. They know he went to a conference on July 13. They know he stayed at a Best Western. They want his access logs from the hotel to get detailed specifics that the ISP may not have. Today, they have to get a warrant or a subpoena to obtain those. Tomorrow, they can just demand it.
This will do *nothing* for national security, but it sure will give them more capability when it comes to gathering ever more data on whoever they're targeting for any reason, with no due process.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:03 PM (HnUIn)
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Oopsie.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 04:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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123 You know who still talks about this? Justin Amash.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)
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Buying into Russian collusion and pushing it for years leaves an impression on most people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, he seemed to be duped and/or he hates Trump for some reason he's not saying otherwise.
Not a good look. But he's generally right about the corruption of the Congress.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 04:00 PM (dGCAG)
Was he the one who had a family business very tied to the Chinese? Pretty sure he turned on Trump during the tariff talk.
I know we're supposed to hate him, but I forget why.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)
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Buying into Russian collusion and pushing it for years leaves an impression on most people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, he seemed to be duped and/or he hates Trump for some reason he's not saying otherwise.
Not a good look. But he's generally right about the corruption of the Congress.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2024 04:00 PM (dGCAG)
Was he the one who had a family business very tied to the Chinese? Pretty sure he turned on Trump during the tariff talk.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 17, 2024 04:04 PM (KbCG3)
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Guess we all moving to East Germany of 1958
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2024 04:04 PM (fwDg9)
139
I hate the "if you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about". The way that wrong and right have been so distorted, that phrase has no meaning.
Posted by: Megthered at April 17, 2024 04:04 PM (BolxK)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 04:05 PM (Zz0t1)
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Marjorie Taylor Green said pussy
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (MFZft)
sure, i'll have a look...
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 03:49 PM (MFZft)
sure, i'll have a look...
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 17, 2024 04:05 PM (nXhwP)
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"pics of his Johnson where it didn't belong."
Hey, all they got on me was a gloryhole in the stall. It could have been my wife on the other side
Hey, all they got on me was a gloryhole in the stall. It could have been my wife on the other side
Posted by: The Speaker's Johnson at April 17, 2024 04:05 PM (A7vtb)
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Has anyone in the Senate pointed out the obvious that if the Congress actually gave a shit about "national security" you wouldn't waltz 7+Million illegals (including about 1M "gotaways" i.e. totally unvetted) over the border?
Its like someone taking a dump in the middle of the dining room table complaining about a dirty fork.
Its like someone taking a dump in the middle of the dining room table complaining about a dirty fork.
Posted by: Zek at April 17, 2024 04:05 PM (5FPX4)
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All great we are seeing who is against these highly invasive provisions in the FISA bill.
Question is: WHO is proposing them? They all have to somehow originate from a Congresscritter or Senator, right? Why aren't we calling these people out?
Question is: WHO is proposing them? They all have to somehow originate from a Congresscritter or Senator, right? Why aren't we calling these people out?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 17, 2024 04:06 PM (N39Ws)
145
They need an amendment to the FISA Bill outlawing the federal government of the United States.
A Man Can Dream.
A Man Can Dream.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2024 04:06 PM (cDEsv)
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At least now the "Republicans gave Putin Ukraine" argument will go away. For a couple days. Peter Zeihan will be happy.
Posted by: Auspex
Yoo-crane wants to shoot off 4 million 155 mm artillery rounds at Ivan. And they would shoot 7 million if they had them. They have depleted our reserves, and right now, the company in Scranton, PA only makes about 366K 155 mm shells a year. By 2025 or 2026, they MAY be up to 1 million rounds a year.
"It's just Johnson and this damn war!" - some guy in the 1960's.
Posted by: Auspex
Yoo-crane wants to shoot off 4 million 155 mm artillery rounds at Ivan. And they would shoot 7 million if they had them. They have depleted our reserves, and right now, the company in Scranton, PA only makes about 366K 155 mm shells a year. By 2025 or 2026, they MAY be up to 1 million rounds a year.
"It's just Johnson and this damn war!" - some guy in the 1960's.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at April 17, 2024 04:07 PM (vcOmj)
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Think of all the islamic terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11. Think of all the domestic fueled terrorist attacks in that time. COVID. Uncontrolled border that allows humans, weapons, and drugs into the country. Jailing dissenters. Running ops on dissenters.. Coordinating all of this with other government agencies and "private" orgs.
Small list, but the IC doesn't give a fuck and no body count is too high to maintain their control.
Small list, but the IC doesn't give a fuck and no body count is too high to maintain their control.
Posted by: Jeremiah Wright at April 17, 2024 04:07 PM (R4t5M)
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We got potatoes!
Brian Stelter, make way
Brian Stelter, make way
Posted by: The Barrel at April 17, 2024 04:07 PM (A7vtb)
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142 "pics of his Johnson where it didn't belong."
Hey, all they got on me was a gloryhole in the stall. It could have been my wife on the other side
Posted by: The Speaker's Johnson at April 17, 2024 04:05 PM (A7vtb)
--Larry Craig has entered the chat with his wide stance.
Hey, all they got on me was a gloryhole in the stall. It could have been my wife on the other side
Posted by: The Speaker's Johnson at April 17, 2024 04:05 PM (A7vtb)
--Larry Craig has entered the chat with his wide stance.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 17, 2024 04:07 PM (N39Ws)
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Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was.
Lucy, the football, and Charlie Brown (sans Dildo) yet again. I think it's time to cram that football up Lucy's ass, metaphorically speaking.
Lucy, the football, and Charlie Brown (sans Dildo) yet again. I think it's time to cram that football up Lucy's ass, metaphorically speaking.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (ynpvh)
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I hate the "if you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about". The way that wrong and right have been so distorted, that phrase has no meaning.
Posted by: Megthered at April 17, 2024 04:04 PM (BolxK)
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It's always had the same meaning: "you have no right to keep anything private if the state wants it." It's always been bullshit. Even if the state was as pure as the driven snow, it would still be bullshit.
The default answer to this assertion should be along the lines of, "mine is mine, and you have no right to it. I have every right to keep you from it. Fuck you."
Posted by: Megthered at April 17, 2024 04:04 PM (BolxK)
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It's always had the same meaning: "you have no right to keep anything private if the state wants it." It's always been bullshit. Even if the state was as pure as the driven snow, it would still be bullshit.
The default answer to this assertion should be along the lines of, "mine is mine, and you have no right to it. I have every right to keep you from it. Fuck you."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (HnUIn)
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Its like someone taking a dump in the middle of the dining room table complaining about a dirty fork.
Posted by: Zek at April 17, 2024 04:05 PM
My 2024 nomination for Best Simile from an AoS Moron!
Posted by: Zek at April 17, 2024 04:05 PM
My 2024 nomination for Best Simile from an AoS Moron!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (fxCK2)
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Its like someone taking a dump in the middle of the dining room table complaining about a dirty fork.
Let anyone here who has not taken a dump in the middle of the dining room table throw the first stone.
*shifty eyes*
Let anyone here who has not taken a dump in the middle of the dining room table throw the first stone.
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:09 PM (CsUN+)
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Yeah, he seemed to be duped and/or he hates Trump for some reason he's not saying otherwise.
Posted by: BurtTC
His family owes its wealth to biz with the CCP, apparently.
Posted by: BurtTC
His family owes its wealth to biz with the CCP, apparently.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 17, 2024 04:09 PM (IG4Id)
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150 Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was.
Lucy, the football, and Charlie Brown (sans Dildo) yet again. I think it's time to cram that football up Lucy's ass, metaphorically speaking.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (ynpvh)
I think it needs to be a double ended dildo and get shoved up both of their squeakers.
Lucy, the football, and Charlie Brown (sans Dildo) yet again. I think it's time to cram that football up Lucy's ass, metaphorically speaking.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (ynpvh)
I think it needs to be a double ended dildo and get shoved up both of their squeakers.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 17, 2024 04:09 PM (N39Ws)
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Kind of wish Russia would just finish off Ukraine already and end this endless black hole of laundering tax dollars right in all of our faces, but I'm sure there would be something else to immediately take its place
Posted by: brak at April 17, 2024 04:09 PM (25k9m)
157
They're after VPNs.
Posted by: Oldstoke at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (QBStd)
158
What do you call it where a Government does things that the great majority of the country's citizens do not want?
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (qUkBO)
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I am thinking MTG was right -- someone is busy blackmailing people right and left in DC -- including Johsnon.
Posted by: Someone Else at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (IrqeV)
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151 It's always had the same meaning: "you have no right to keep anything private if the state wants it." It's always been bullshit. Even if the state was as pure as the driven snow, it would still be bullshit.
The default answer to this assertion should be along the lines of, "mine is mine, and you have no right to it. I have every right to keep you from it. Fuck you."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (HnUIn)
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The bad guys in Harry Potter say it, and it's meant as menacingly as possible.
And the left still doesn't get the message.
The default answer to this assertion should be along the lines of, "mine is mine, and you have no right to it. I have every right to keep you from it. Fuck you."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (HnUIn)
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The bad guys in Harry Potter say it, and it's meant as menacingly as possible.
And the left still doesn't get the message.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (GBKbO)
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Finally, somebody is doing something about climate crisis!
The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
“If there was no climate change, we would not even bother to buy these camels,” said Jonathan Lati Lelelit, governor of Samburu.
The government there is distributing camels to residents based on need.
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Samburu is a region of northern Kenya. Camel redistribution for Gaia!
The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
“If there was no climate change, we would not even bother to buy these camels,” said Jonathan Lati Lelelit, governor of Samburu.
The government there is distributing camels to residents based on need.
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Samburu is a region of northern Kenya. Camel redistribution for Gaia!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (FVME7)
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Its like someone taking a dump in the middle of the dining room table complaining about a dirty fork.
Posted by: Zek
Hey fat, I did that once. What are you talking about?
Posted by: Zek
Hey fat, I did that once. What are you talking about?
Posted by: Joe Biden....President Meat Puppet at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (vcOmj)
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How soon until every business must be a spy: Verizon, AT&T, Comcast...?
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You'd need a time machine if you want to stop that.
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You'd need a time machine if you want to stop that.
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (MFZft)
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158 What do you call it where a Government does things that the great majority of the country's citizens do not want?
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (qUkBO)
Our Precious Democracy.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (qUkBO)
Our Precious Democracy.
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (UnA8+)
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There is no other explanation, nobody wanted Johnson... but that was supposed to be a feature not a but....
but he must have some serious porn habits, because he's fully compromised by the intelligence community.
but he must have some serious porn habits, because he's fully compromised by the intelligence community.
Posted by: RealityMain at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (xsWV3)
166
I imagine they want this bill, because if they came out and said they wanted to eliminate the fourth amendment, it would require 3/4 of the states to approve.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (lTGtQ)
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157 They're after VPNs.
Posted by: Oldstoke at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (QBStd)
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The feds most likely own the encryption to every VPN in use.
Posted by: Oldstoke at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (QBStd)
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The feds most likely own the encryption to every VPN in use.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Justin Amash.
Last I heard my former congressman was whining about how the good people of Gaza were being treated.
He's also responsible for temporarily giving us Peter Meijer as a congressman, and turning the 3rd district bluer than a porn movie.
Justin Amash.
Last I heard my former congressman was whining about how the good people of Gaza were being treated.
He's also responsible for temporarily giving us Peter Meijer as a congressman, and turning the 3rd district bluer than a porn movie.
Posted by: Auspex at April 17, 2024 04:11 PM (j4U/Z)
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151 I hate the "if you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about". The way that wrong and right have been so distorted, that phrase has no meaning.
Posted by: Megthered at April 17, 2024 04:04 PM (BolxK)
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It's always had the same meaning: "you have no right to keep anything private if the state wants it." It's always been bullshit. Even if the state was as pure as the driven snow, it would still be bullshit.
The default answer to this assertion should be along the lines of, "mine is mine, and you have no right to it. I have every right to keep you from it. Fuck you."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (HnUIn)
Yup. The Gov't has no right to know how I wipe my ass, or had sex with my wife, or even how I pick my nose and ears. Why? Because, and I quote, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Posted by: Megthered at April 17, 2024 04:04 PM (BolxK)
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It's always had the same meaning: "you have no right to keep anything private if the state wants it." It's always been bullshit. Even if the state was as pure as the driven snow, it would still be bullshit.
The default answer to this assertion should be along the lines of, "mine is mine, and you have no right to it. I have every right to keep you from it. Fuck you."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (HnUIn)
Yup. The Gov't has no right to know how I wipe my ass, or had sex with my wife, or even how I pick my nose and ears. Why? Because, and I quote, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Eeyore at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (1bNHn)
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127 9 I'm afraid that if this abomination doesn't pass, the FBI and its assorted stooges will stage a terror attack and claim that FISA would have stopped it. So what if some Americans get killed in the staged attack? That's more than acceptable to the FBI to enable its continued boot stamping on a human face—forever.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
What makes you think this ain't already in the 'plan'?
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2024 04:02 PM (NxC5+)
FBI won't need to stage it...we've got so many illegal terrorists over the border, they could probably execute a plan in any place at any time. So, the FBI would just need to give a push, but not actually run anything. It could be as simple as "incompetently" mentioning something online...
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
What makes you think this ain't already in the 'plan'?
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2024 04:02 PM (NxC5+)
FBI won't need to stage it...we've got so many illegal terrorists over the border, they could probably execute a plan in any place at any time. So, the FBI would just need to give a push, but not actually run anything. It could be as simple as "incompetently" mentioning something online...
Posted by: Nova Local at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (exHjb)
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Samburu is a region of northern Kenya. Camel redistribution for Gaia!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (FVME7)
Are they going to walk a mile for them?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:10 PM (FVME7)
Are they going to walk a mile for them?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (tkR6S)
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Second look at snail mail and one time pads?
Posted by: PabloD at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (YWec7)
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Is congress still exempt from this proposed law?
Posted by: Piper at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (ZdaMQ)
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I don't get it. If Ron Wyden, a Democrat, says it's "terrifying," what's the game? There's something more... Employers? Physicians' offices? Toyota & a few others?
The Senate gets to vote and approve the very worst bill - that the administration wants - exactly as it was passed up from the House?
The Senate gets to vote and approve the very worst bill - that the administration wants - exactly as it was passed up from the House?
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (NFX2v)
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They're after VPNs.
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Ugh, I'd forgotten about the law that was proposed a year or so ago outlawing VPNs. Well, not outright outlawing, but if you used one to prevent your IP address from being seen or tracked then you were committing a crime. Your free to OWN a VPN, though.
I'll have to track that down and see if it passed.
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Ugh, I'd forgotten about the law that was proposed a year or so ago outlawing VPNs. Well, not outright outlawing, but if you used one to prevent your IP address from being seen or tracked then you were committing a crime. Your free to OWN a VPN, though.
I'll have to track that down and see if it passed.
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 04:13 PM (MFZft)
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174 Is congress still exempt from this proposed law?
Posted by: Piper at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Let's be honest: Congress is FISA's main target.
Posted by: Piper at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Let's be honest: Congress is FISA's main target.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Any minute now Andy McCarthy will go in a program to tell us this is a concerning violation of DOJ procedure.
Posted by: Zek at April 17, 2024 04:13 PM (5FPX4)
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I am thinking MTG was right -- someone is busy blackmailing people right and left in DC -- including Johsnon.
Posted by: Someone Else
Of course. I spoke to an insider a while back, and was informed that all but a handful of representatives and senators were kept in line by a combination of blackmail and bribe.
There is good reason that Epstein happened to be in a certain cell at a certain time, with cameras turned off, and guards not on station.
Posted by: Someone Else
Of course. I spoke to an insider a while back, and was informed that all but a handful of representatives and senators were kept in line by a combination of blackmail and bribe.
There is good reason that Epstein happened to be in a certain cell at a certain time, with cameras turned off, and guards not on station.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 04:13 PM (lTGtQ)
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Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:13 PM (ynpvh)
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Let's be honest: Congress is FISA's main target.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:13 PM (GBKbO)
*Congress's Hush Money Slush Fund has entered the chat.
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Let's be honest: Congress is FISA's main target.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:13 PM (GBKbO)
*Congress's Hush Money Slush Fund has entered the chat.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 04:13 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Moron Robbie congratulates women on needing to work until they're 80 at April 17, 2024 04:14 PM (MFZft)
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Second look at Luddite-ism? Cash only. No internet. Flip phone only.
Or, steal the identify of an illegal alien.
Or, steal the identify of an illegal alien.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at April 17, 2024 04:14 PM (bNf8H)
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So you're saying the GOPe got its Johnson caught in its zipper?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:14 PM (FVME7)
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171 127 9 I'm afraid that if this abomination doesn't pass, the FBI and its assorted stooges will stage a terror attack and claim that FISA would have stopped it. So what if some Americans get killed in the staged attack? That's more than acceptable to the FBI to enable its continued boot stamping on a human face—forever.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
What makes you think this ain't already in the 'plan'?
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2024 04:02 PM (NxC5+)
FBI won't need to stage it...we've got so many illegal terrorists over the border, they could probably execute a plan in any place at any time. So, the FBI would just need to give a push, but not actually run anything. It could be as simple as "incompetently" mentioning something online...
Posted by: Nova Local at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (exHjb)
give up liberties, something, something, safety, have neither...
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 17, 2024 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
What makes you think this ain't already in the 'plan'?
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2024 04:02 PM (NxC5+)
FBI won't need to stage it...we've got so many illegal terrorists over the border, they could probably execute a plan in any place at any time. So, the FBI would just need to give a push, but not actually run anything. It could be as simple as "incompetently" mentioning something online...
Posted by: Nova Local at April 17, 2024 04:12 PM (exHjb)
give up liberties, something, something, safety, have neither...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:14 PM (ynpvh)
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Yup. The Gov't has no right to know how I wipe my ass, or had sex with my wife, or even how I pick my nose and ears. Why? Because, and I quote, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Hey, that Constitution thing? I wipe my ass with it.
Get over yourself, fat. All you dog-faced pony soldier MAGA fools need to understand that YOU are the problem.
Fat.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Hey, that Constitution thing? I wipe my ass with it.
Get over yourself, fat. All you dog-faced pony soldier MAGA fools need to understand that YOU are the problem.
Fat.
Posted by: Joe Biden....President Meat Puppet at April 17, 2024 04:14 PM (vcOmj)
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184 So you're saying the GOPe got its Johnson caught in its zipper?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:14 PM (FVME7)
He's on the foreskin of politics, it would seem.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:14 PM (FVME7)
He's on the foreskin of politics, it would seem.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:15 PM (ynpvh)
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What if Trump gets in and becomes a scary authoritarian though? Could you even imagine what it would be like to live under a scary authoritarian government instead of a Precious Democracy?
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2024 04:15 PM (lX8VI)
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And if it lapses.. I'm SURE the IC will just stop until it passes... yeah... right.
Posted by: Inogame at April 17, 2024 04:15 PM (53oGX)
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"Sir, we got another hot tip about a terrorist attack that's about to go down. It's the eighth one this week from the same area!"
"Have they passed the bill yet, son?"
"Um, no."
"Ehhhh, I'm leaving early today. And stop answering the phone, newbie."
"Have they passed the bill yet, son?"
"Um, no."
"Ehhhh, I'm leaving early today. And stop answering the phone, newbie."
Posted by: Federal Bureau of Corruption Disguised as Incompetence at April 17, 2024 04:16 PM (qUkBO)
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Come to the NoVaMoMe on June 8! Registration is now open. Guaranteed to be spy-free.
Email me at the link in my nic (or if you have trouble, it's NoVaMoMe at proton dot me.
Email me at the link in my nic (or if you have trouble, it's NoVaMoMe at proton dot me.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe24 registration now open! at April 17, 2024 04:16 PM (bS+DD)
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Republicans want to be in your bedroom!!!
They probably just forgot to mention that the Uniparty wants to be everywhere.
They probably just forgot to mention that the Uniparty wants to be everywhere.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2024 04:16 PM (lX8VI)
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And Glenn Greenwald. Though his obsessive Israel bashing has been pretty off putting lately.
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Man, it really has.
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Man, it really has.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 04:16 PM (woPEM)
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184 So you're saying the GOPe got its Johnson caught in its zipper?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:14 PM (FVME7)
Nah, to keep him in line, it probably involves family threats...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:14 PM (FVME7)
Nah, to keep him in line, it probably involves family threats...
Posted by: Nova Local at April 17, 2024 04:16 PM (exHjb)
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It occurs to me that ours, or perhaps the one generation before ours, is the first in history that didn't have to work really hard just to survive.
Maybe some kind of unified theory of lazy-stupid could be worked out...
Maybe some kind of unified theory of lazy-stupid could be worked out...
Posted by: Zek at April 17, 2024 04:16 PM (5FPX4)
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didn't sen whitehouse a few years ago almost scream at james clapper for lying about whether the nsa was spying on ordinary americans?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 17, 2024 04:17 PM (B1FKF)
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188 What if Trump gets in and becomes a scary authoritarian though? Could you even imagine what it would be like to live under a scary authoritarian government instead of a Precious Democracy?
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2024 04:15 PM (lX8VI)
Well, comparing the scary authoritarianism of 2017-2021 to the "precious" democracy of 2021-2024...
I do not think they understand what those words mean...
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2024 04:15 PM (lX8VI)
Well, comparing the scary authoritarianism of 2017-2021 to the "precious" democracy of 2021-2024...
I do not think they understand what those words mean...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:17 PM (ynpvh)
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I tried to track down the story Biden told of his 'Uncle Bosey' getting shot down over New Guinea and succumbing to cannibals-
found nothing about 'cannibals', which means either he didn't say it, or the search engines have embargoed mention of it
found nothing about 'cannibals', which means either he didn't say it, or the search engines have embargoed mention of it
Posted by: Don Black at April 17, 2024 04:17 PM (oCjPU)
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They should name it The Bill to Codify Into Law What We Already Do Anyway Act
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2024 04:17 PM (lX8VI)
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What do you call it where a Government does things that the great majority of the country's citizens do not want?
Posted by: Anti-Faucist
"Our precious democracy."
Posted by: Anti-Faucist
"Our precious democracy."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:17 PM (FVME7)
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The feds most likely own the encryption to every VPN in use.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Probably, but that's not entirely relevant. VPNs aren't about security, they're about endpoint obfuscation. Data transmitted in the clear isn't particularly relevat if the origin and destination of the traffic is unknown. That's what VPNs are really for.
Even if someone has the keys - assume that they do - that lets them see what was transmitted, but not by/to whom. To find that out is difficult, because they need to have a reasonably good time frame of what was collected and from where (easy), through which VPN (not as easy, but achievable), and finally to which VPN connectee (very hard if the VPN service does not keep logs, and none of the good ones do).
There are ways around this through browser fingerprinting (identify your browser even if they can't track the connection) and, crucially, because most people are sloppy and will do personally-identifiable things while connected through a VPN. If you do that, the sloppiness and browser fingerprinting will obviate the VPN anyway. Most people aren't careful.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Probably, but that's not entirely relevant. VPNs aren't about security, they're about endpoint obfuscation. Data transmitted in the clear isn't particularly relevat if the origin and destination of the traffic is unknown. That's what VPNs are really for.
Even if someone has the keys - assume that they do - that lets them see what was transmitted, but not by/to whom. To find that out is difficult, because they need to have a reasonably good time frame of what was collected and from where (easy), through which VPN (not as easy, but achievable), and finally to which VPN connectee (very hard if the VPN service does not keep logs, and none of the good ones do).
There are ways around this through browser fingerprinting (identify your browser even if they can't track the connection) and, crucially, because most people are sloppy and will do personally-identifiable things while connected through a VPN. If you do that, the sloppiness and browser fingerprinting will obviate the VPN anyway. Most people aren't careful.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:18 PM (HnUIn)
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Speaking of computers and tracking, I see that Amazon is giving away free copies of Fallout76.
Well, "free." You have to use the MS store or something similar IIRC.
Well, "free." You have to use the MS store or something similar IIRC.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is imagining a nation where non-taxpayers couldn't vote at April 17, 2024 04:18 PM (0V8iX)
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What do you call it where a Government does things that the great majority of the country's citizens do not want?
A day ending in "y"?
A day ending in "y"?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:18 PM (CsUN+)
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Posted by: Don Black at April 17, 2024 04:17 PM (oCjPU)
There is a video on the Daily Wire X-feed. (Sorry I cannot post a link, but X doesn't work on Macs)
There is a video on the Daily Wire X-feed. (Sorry I cannot post a link, but X doesn't work on Macs)
Posted by: Oglebay at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (ogTiX)
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I use Proton VPN everyday. Recommended.
Posted by: brak at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (25k9m)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (8ZrHX)
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183 Second look at Luddite-ism? Cash only. No internet. Flip phone only.
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A story at Daily Mail yesterday said the Amish community is growing by leaps and bounds.
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A story at Daily Mail yesterday said the Amish community is growing by leaps and bounds.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (woPEM)
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202 Speaking of computers and tracking, I see that Amazon is giving away free copies of Fallout76.
Well, "free." You have to use the MS store or something similar IIRC.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is imagining a nation where non-taxpayers couldn't vote at April 17, 2024 04:18 PM (0V8iX)
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I claimed it. No idea when I'll install it on anything, though. Still, free is free.
Well, "free." You have to use the MS store or something similar IIRC.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is imagining a nation where non-taxpayers couldn't vote at April 17, 2024 04:18 PM (0V8iX)
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I claimed it. No idea when I'll install it on anything, though. Still, free is free.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)
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There are ways around this through browser fingerprinting (identify your browser even if they can't track the connection) and, crucially, because most people are sloppy and will do personally-identifiable things while connected through a VPN. If you do that, the sloppiness and browser fingerprinting will obviate the VPN anyway. Most people aren't careful.
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This is a good time to remind everyone that Mullvad created a browser.
mullvad.net/en/browser
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This is a good time to remind everyone that Mullvad created a browser.
mullvad.net/en/browser
Posted by: Moron Robbie is imagining a nation where non-taxpayers couldn't vote at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (0V8iX)
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"The feds most likely own the encryption to every VPN in use.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:11 PM (GBKbO)"
I've wondered whether it isn't a giant honey trap.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:11 PM (GBKbO)"
I've wondered whether it isn't a giant honey trap.
Posted by: Zek at April 17, 2024 04:20 PM (5FPX4)
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206 Fucking Joint Commission.
Kill me now.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (8ZrHX)
So they've been toking...
Kill me now.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (8ZrHX)
So they've been toking...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:20 PM (ynpvh)
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207 183 Second look at Luddite-ism? Cash only. No internet. Flip phone only.
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A story at Daily Mail yesterday said the Amish community is growing by leaps and bounds.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (woPEM)
Barter, not cash.
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A story at Daily Mail yesterday said the Amish community is growing by leaps and bounds.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 04:19 PM (woPEM)
Barter, not cash.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:20 PM (ynpvh)
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Former US congressman says family members killed in Gaza church blast
Justin Amash, the first Palestinian American to serve as US Congress member, confirms several relatives killed
Oct 22, 2023 Justin Amash detailed his sorrow over losing family members amid the Israel-Hamas war in a post on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.
Justin Amash, the first Palestinian American to serve as US Congress member, confirms several relatives killed
Oct 22, 2023 Justin Amash detailed his sorrow over losing family members amid the Israel-Hamas war in a post on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 17, 2024 04:20 PM (vtyCZ)
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I claimed it. No idea when I'll install it on anything, though. Still, free is free.
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I'm going to use mine as a mule account so I can try some different play styles without having to pare down my stash too much. I haven't played FO76 in a while and can only imagine what it's like right now with new users everywhere, but it's a ridiculously friendly community and might be fun again.
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I'm going to use mine as a mule account so I can try some different play styles without having to pare down my stash too much. I haven't played FO76 in a while and can only imagine what it's like right now with new users everywhere, but it's a ridiculously friendly community and might be fun again.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is imagining a nation where non-taxpayers couldn't vote at April 17, 2024 04:21 PM (0V8iX)
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Atlanta seems like a totally normal American town...
@CollinRugg
REPORT: Atlantic City mayor Marty Small Sr. accused of beating his teenage daughter unconscious with a broom.
This is insane.
The Democrat is allegedly caught on film beating his daughter for disapproving of her boyfriend.
It gets crazier: After the allegations came out, the mayor dragged his daughter to a press conference where he denied the allegations...
It gets worse from there.
@CollinRugg
REPORT: Atlantic City mayor Marty Small Sr. accused of beating his teenage daughter unconscious with a broom.
This is insane.
The Democrat is allegedly caught on film beating his daughter for disapproving of her boyfriend.
It gets crazier: After the allegations came out, the mayor dragged his daughter to a press conference where he denied the allegations...
It gets worse from there.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 17, 2024 04:21 PM (IG4Id)
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Yeah - this is a bad one on Johnson. I have no arguments against his ouster except that I fear the dems will run the place for 7 months.
Though it matters not - Michigan dems flipped the House. All dem all the time there now. Dreams of Trump winning Michigan are just plain silly.
Though it matters not - Michigan dems flipped the House. All dem all the time there now. Dreams of Trump winning Michigan are just plain silly.
Posted by: Black JEM at April 17, 2024 04:21 PM (GZYu7)
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Yeah - this is a bad one on Johnson. I have no arguments against his ouster except that I fear the dems will run the place for 7 months.
Though it matters not - Michigan dems flipped the House. All dem all the time there now. Dreams of Trump winning Michigan are just plain silly.
Posted by: Black JEM at April 17, 2024 04:21 PM (GZYu7)
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This kind of destruction of rights should be punished. Oust him. The chips fall where they may.
Though it matters not - Michigan dems flipped the House. All dem all the time there now. Dreams of Trump winning Michigan are just plain silly.
Posted by: Black JEM at April 17, 2024 04:21 PM (GZYu7)
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This kind of destruction of rights should be punished. Oust him. The chips fall where they may.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:22 PM (HnUIn)
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>There is a video on the Daily Wire X-feed. (Sorry I cannot post a link, but X doesn't work on Macs)
Posted by: Oglebay
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OK I just watched it
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/
1780684899936260132
Posted by: Oglebay
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OK I just watched it
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/
1780684899936260132
Posted by: Don Black at April 17, 2024 04:23 PM (oCjPU)
Posted by: BifBewalski at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (MsrgL)
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Michigan Prop 2 in '22 eliminated elections here at the state level. The state AG now decides those races unilaterally per the MI constitution.
That's not the verbiage, but it is a factually accurate paraphrase of the proposal, which we're assured passed legitimately.
That's not the verbiage, but it is a factually accurate paraphrase of the proposal, which we're assured passed legitimately.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (UfRqq)
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Though it matters not - Michigan dems flipped the House. All dem all the time there now. Dreams of Trump winning Michigan are just plain silly.
Then how do you explain Biden's obsessive sucking up to Michigan's Muzzies? Honest question.
Then how do you explain Biden's obsessive sucking up to Michigan's Muzzies? Honest question.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (CsUN+)
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As has been said before, Stalin would blush at this level of surveillance. And then he would build more trains.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (s6PBU)
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221 Then how do you explain Biden's obsessive sucking up to Michigan's Muzzies? Honest question.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (CsUN+)
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Because his administration is actually run by Valerie Jarrett?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (CsUN+)
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Because his administration is actually run by Valerie Jarrett?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO)
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150 Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was.
Lucy, the football, and Charlie Brown (sans Dildo) yet again. I think it's time to cram that football up Lucy's ass, metaphorically speaking.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (ynpvh)
It's of my opinion, and complete conjecture on my part, that he was told to get a vote and if he didn't there would be enough resignations to give the gavel to the dems.
Lucy, the football, and Charlie Brown (sans Dildo) yet again. I think it's time to cram that football up Lucy's ass, metaphorically speaking.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (ynpvh)
It's of my opinion, and complete conjecture on my part, that he was told to get a vote and if he didn't there would be enough resignations to give the gavel to the dems.
Posted by: Inogame at April 17, 2024 04:25 PM (53oGX)
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Then how do you explain Biden's obsessive sucking up to Michigan's Muzzies? Honest question.
They count the votes in Wayne county.
They count the votes in Wayne county.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at April 17, 2024 04:25 PM (UfRqq)
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Op or not?
CBS LOCAL NEWS
Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission warns about phishing scam targeting E-ZPass users
Ended with, "Customers who get a fraudulent message can report it to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center at www ic3 gov.
btw, some that weren't EZ Pass users got the text messages, too, and thousands have reported receiving the msg.
CBS LOCAL NEWS
Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission warns about phishing scam targeting E-ZPass users
Ended with, "Customers who get a fraudulent message can report it to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center at www ic3 gov.
btw, some that weren't EZ Pass users got the text messages, too, and thousands have reported receiving the msg.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:25 PM (NFX2v)
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I read also that a/c contractors, bug spraying guys, maid service, anyone can be compelled to spy on you under the threat of criminal punishment.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 17, 2024 04:26 PM (Y6IkP)
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>>> 105 I'm trying to figure out why they want this bill.
The NSA has been illegally recording phone calls and intercepting emails for decades. Nobody is going to prosecute them.
I guess it is just to make sure that it is clear in black and white letters that Americans don't have freedom anymore.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (lTGtQ)
This isn't just the NSA... but then I wonder if that is *also* something that has been happening for longer than has been previously imagined.
The NSA has been illegally recording phone calls and intercepting emails for decades. Nobody is going to prosecute them.
I guess it is just to make sure that it is clear in black and white letters that Americans don't have freedom anymore.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (lTGtQ)
This isn't just the NSA... but then I wonder if that is *also* something that has been happening for longer than has been previously imagined.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 17, 2024 04:26 PM (llON8)
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Atlantic City mayor Marty Small Sr. accused of beating his teenage daughter unconscious with a broom.
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The Democrat is allegedly caught on film beating his daughter for disapproving of her boyfriend.
"Based", amirite?
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The Democrat is allegedly caught on film beating his daughter for disapproving of her boyfriend.
"Based", amirite?
Posted by: Dearborn, Michestan at April 17, 2024 04:26 PM (A7vtb)
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It gets worse from there.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 17, 2024 04:21 PM (IG4Id)
The mayor looks as I thought he would.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 17, 2024 04:21 PM (IG4Id)
The mayor looks as I thought he would.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at April 17, 2024 04:26 PM (s6PBU)
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224 It's of my opinion, and complete conjecture on my part, that he was told to get a vote and if he didn't there would be enough resignations to give the gavel to the dems.
Posted by: Inogame at April 17, 2024 04:25 PM (53oGX)
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"So, you're going to make it beyond clear that you value the Deep State over your voters, that you have more in common with Democrats than your base, and that you're willing to throw away power when you don't get what you want? Okay. I'll be here to pick up the pieces. Fuck off and die."
-Bizarro World Johnson
Posted by: Inogame at April 17, 2024 04:25 PM (53oGX)
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"So, you're going to make it beyond clear that you value the Deep State over your voters, that you have more in common with Democrats than your base, and that you're willing to throw away power when you don't get what you want? Okay. I'll be here to pick up the pieces. Fuck off and die."
-Bizarro World Johnson
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)
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Can't the NSA already see everything it wants to see anyway? Why do they feel the need to rope every American into being an agent of the Stasi?
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (1oTv1)
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Then how do you explain Biden's obsessive sucking up to Michigan's Muzzies? Honest question.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (CsUN+)
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Because his administration is actually run by Valerie Jarrett?
They count the votes in Wayne county.
Right, but in both of those cases, they'd have no need to do things which alienate others in the Dem coalition, specifically Jews. It doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (CsUN+)
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Because his administration is actually run by Valerie Jarrett?
They count the votes in Wayne county.
Right, but in both of those cases, they'd have no need to do things which alienate others in the Dem coalition, specifically Jews. It doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (CsUN+)
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Protestors: Please Stop Blocking Traffic. It is a stupid, destructive tactic. For crying out loud, the Palestinians need real help, effective help. Please, no more counterproductive stupidity.
A friend of mine missed her chemo because of the GGBridge shutdown. Her son was stuck in his car for 3.5 hours. I don’t imagine either of them were compelled to advocate for the protesters’ positions.
Unpopular Kos opinion here but…maybe they should advocated for the protesters opinion. People were dying, and certainly missing chemo treatments in Gaza because of the policies of the US to support the horrific, genocidal bombing of people and hospitals while your family/friend….was sitting in traffic. I cannot relate to, and am pretty horrified by, the expectation that people can only protest American policies if it doesn’t inconvenience Americans.
What the fuck do you expect a random cancer patient to do about gaza? They statistically probably DO support Palestinians. But ya know. Cant really take time out of their CANCER TREATMENT to go do...something? Absolutely idiotic and frankly ableist take.
A friend of mine missed her chemo because of the GGBridge shutdown. Her son was stuck in his car for 3.5 hours. I don’t imagine either of them were compelled to advocate for the protesters’ positions.
Unpopular Kos opinion here but…maybe they should advocated for the protesters opinion. People were dying, and certainly missing chemo treatments in Gaza because of the policies of the US to support the horrific, genocidal bombing of people and hospitals while your family/friend….was sitting in traffic. I cannot relate to, and am pretty horrified by, the expectation that people can only protest American policies if it doesn’t inconvenience Americans.
What the fuck do you expect a random cancer patient to do about gaza? They statistically probably DO support Palestinians. But ya know. Cant really take time out of their CANCER TREATMENT to go do...something? Absolutely idiotic and frankly ableist take.
Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 17, 2024 04:28 PM (sVn44)
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Somewhere saw a article they thought Johnson is being blackmailed
As Chucky said the Security organizations can get you 7 ways from Sunday
As Chucky said the Security organizations can get you 7 ways from Sunday
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2024 04:28 PM (fwDg9)
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224 150 Johnson has shown himself to be a sell-out as bad as Kevin McCarthy was.
Lucy, the football, and Charlie Brown (sans Dildo) yet again. I think it's time to cram that football up Lucy's ass, metaphorically speaking.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (ynpvh)
It's of my opinion, and complete conjecture on my part, that he was told to get a vote and if he didn't there would be enough resignations to give the gavel to the dems.
Posted by: Inogame at April 17, 2024 04:25 PM (53oGX)
I would like to see that. It would prove once and for all how traitorous the eGOP are.
Lucy, the football, and Charlie Brown (sans Dildo) yet again. I think it's time to cram that football up Lucy's ass, metaphorically speaking.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:08 PM (ynpvh)
It's of my opinion, and complete conjecture on my part, that he was told to get a vote and if he didn't there would be enough resignations to give the gavel to the dems.
Posted by: Inogame at April 17, 2024 04:25 PM (53oGX)
I would like to see that. It would prove once and for all how traitorous the eGOP are.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:28 PM (ynpvh)
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217 This kind of destruction of rights should be punished. Oust him. The chips fall where they may.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:22 PM (HnUIn)
Any atrocities the Dems pass afterward, they would have passed anyway.
The Gope would have melted in the face of all of it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:22 PM (HnUIn)
Any atrocities the Dems pass afterward, they would have passed anyway.
The Gope would have melted in the face of all of it.
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 04:29 PM (UnA8+)
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What's a 'palestinian?'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)
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I read also that a/c contractors, bug spraying guys, maid service, anyone can be compelled to spy on you under the threat of criminal punishment.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 17, 2024 04:26 PM (Y6IkP)
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Great. Now I have to interrogate my cats when I get home to find out who they've been squealing to....
Posted by: banana Dream at April 17, 2024 04:26 PM (Y6IkP)
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Great. Now I have to interrogate my cats when I get home to find out who they've been squealing to....
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 17, 2024 04:29 PM (7fElN)
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233 Right, but in both of those cases, they'd have no need to do things which alienate others in the Dem coalition, specifically Jews. It doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (CsUN+)
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Rich Jews tend to give them a lot of money. Nothing to do with votes, just the ideology of the people in the administration and the Democrat Party's efforts to keep the money train rolling.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (CsUN+)
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Rich Jews tend to give them a lot of money. Nothing to do with votes, just the ideology of the people in the administration and the Democrat Party's efforts to keep the money train rolling.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO)
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Then how do you explain Biden's obsessive sucking up to Michigan's Muzzies? Honest question.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (CsUN+)
He's not sucking up to Michigan, "he" is just being a Democrat. Democrats have defended terrorists as long as I have known them.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:24 PM (CsUN+)
He's not sucking up to Michigan, "he" is just being a Democrat. Democrats have defended terrorists as long as I have known them.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2024 04:29 PM (lX8VI)
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228 >>> 105 I'm trying to figure out why they want this bill.
The NSA has been illegally recording phone calls and intercepting emails for decades. Nobody is going to prosecute them.
I guess it is just to make sure that it is clear in black and white letters that Americans don't have freedom anymore.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (lTGtQ)
This isn't just the NSA... but then I wonder if that is *also* something that has been happening for longer than has been previously imagined.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 17, 2024 04:26 PM (llON
More Trump insurance.
The NSA has been illegally recording phone calls and intercepting emails for decades. Nobody is going to prosecute them.
I guess it is just to make sure that it is clear in black and white letters that Americans don't have freedom anymore.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 03:56 PM (lTGtQ)
This isn't just the NSA... but then I wonder if that is *also* something that has been happening for longer than has been previously imagined.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 17, 2024 04:26 PM (llON
More Trump insurance.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:30 PM (ynpvh)
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If the muslims in Wayne county aren't in on The Cheat, they'll have to cheat a lot harder in Washtenaw and the lefty enclaves in around Lansing. Might even fail to cheat hard enough since those places can't scream "RACISM!!!!" if you point out that the election was a week ago and they haven't finished "counting" yet.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at April 17, 2024 04:30 PM (UfRqq)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:30 PM (FVME7)
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Can't the NSA already see everything it wants to see anyway? Why do they feel the need to rope every American into being an agent of the Stasi?
I'd imagine it's about giving them a fig leaf to obscure the fact that they've been collecting data for a long time now. That loudmouth welfare queen Rep from Cali essentially said the quiet part out loud back during the 2016 election cycle.
I'd imagine it's about giving them a fig leaf to obscure the fact that they've been collecting data for a long time now. That loudmouth welfare queen Rep from Cali essentially said the quiet part out loud back during the 2016 election cycle.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 17, 2024 04:31 PM (YRsIm)
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>>> 232 Can't the NSA already see everything it wants to see anyway? Why do they feel the need to rope every American into being an agent of the Stasi?
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (1oTv1)
Similar reasons as 'they can print as much money as they want, but still collect taxes'.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (1oTv1)
Similar reasons as 'they can print as much money as they want, but still collect taxes'.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 17, 2024 04:31 PM (llON8)
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Late to this thread, and missed the last thread:
"No backtracking; you said what you said. "
No BLACKTRACKING?
No one said blacktracking?!?
I don't know you people.
"No backtracking; you said what you said. "
No BLACKTRACKING?
No one said blacktracking?!?
I don't know you people.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 17, 2024 04:31 PM (ufFY8)
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232 Can't the NSA already see everything it wants to see anyway? Why do they feel the need to rope every American into being an agent of the Stasi?
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (1oTv1)
Because that seems more organic that what they're doing right now?
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (1oTv1)
Because that seems more organic that what they're doing right now?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:31 PM (ynpvh)
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Can't the NSA already see everything it wants to see anyway? Why do they feel the need to rope every American into being an agent of the Stasi?
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (1oTv1)
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They have or can get most of it.
But not everyone can. The IC is fiercely competitive and territorial, and something like this will help open the floodgates to the NSA's IC competitors. Not everyone has the "we have a copy of everything" capability of the NSA, and they all want it.
The FBI probably can't do it, and DHS probably can't. But if both can suddenly compel cooperation from any source in the country, that's good for both of them and gives them more autonomy.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 17, 2024 04:27 PM (1oTv1)
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They have or can get most of it.
But not everyone can. The IC is fiercely competitive and territorial, and something like this will help open the floodgates to the NSA's IC competitors. Not everyone has the "we have a copy of everything" capability of the NSA, and they all want it.
The FBI probably can't do it, and DHS probably can't. But if both can suddenly compel cooperation from any source in the country, that's good for both of them and gives them more autonomy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:31 PM (HnUIn)
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He's not sucking up to Michigan, "he" is just being a Democrat. Democrats have defended terrorists as long as I have known them.
No, I'm as cynical as anyone about the Dems, but even they haven't been so nakedly anti-Israel before. It's a sea change that many have noted, and IMHO, will cost them bigly with Jews.
No, I'm as cynical as anyone about the Dems, but even they haven't been so nakedly anti-Israel before. It's a sea change that many have noted, and IMHO, will cost them bigly with Jews.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (CsUN+)
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There are many terrorists now on our soil. Democrats and Joe Biden have let them in. The FBI has set the threat as high. Higher than its ever been. Some of the terrorists are about to go hot.
Congress is filled with cowards. Do you really think any one of them wants to be on the other side when someone hurls at them the attack could have been prevented if only the FISA Bill was renewed?
The answer is no, and the timing of two years isn't random.
Congress is filled with cowards. Do you really think any one of them wants to be on the other side when someone hurls at them the attack could have been prevented if only the FISA Bill was renewed?
The answer is no, and the timing of two years isn't random.
Posted by: Vengeance at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (P7SgQ)
Posted by: Don Black at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (oCjPU)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (ufFY8)
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I think I hit it.
They want this bill to override the fourth amendment, because officially repealing the fourth would require 3/4 of the states to approve.
They want this bill to override the fourth amendment, because officially repealing the fourth would require 3/4 of the states to approve.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (lTGtQ)
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Stasi, Gestapo, KGB, NKVD, Cheka…. guess some other names and acronyms could be added??
Posted by: tubal at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (PCK5/)
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OK I just watched it
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/
1780684899936260132
Posted by: Don Black
I heard it as "Uncle Milty... in a woodframe prop plane... shot down and eaten by cannibals."
Is that right?
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/
1780684899936260132
Posted by: Don Black
I heard it as "Uncle Milty... in a woodframe prop plane... shot down and eaten by cannibals."
Is that right?
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at April 17, 2024 04:33 PM (hCzfy)
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dashing hopes that Congress might finally put a stop to intelligence agencies' warrantless surveillance
If it saves one more child for Hillary...
Look, we are fully warranted to spy on the enemy in a time of war. We can't help it that you don't think there's a war.
If it saves one more child for Hillary...
Look, we are fully warranted to spy on the enemy in a time of war. We can't help it that you don't think there's a war.
Posted by: The Deep State at April 17, 2024 04:33 PM (DKHqY)
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238 What's a 'palestinian?'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)
A Pale-stinian? Dunno. Maybe some really, really white dude.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)
A Pale-stinian? Dunno. Maybe some really, really white dude.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:33 PM (ynpvh)
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As to why they are doing this??? To make everyone fearful and paranoid…
Posted by: tubal at April 17, 2024 04:34 PM (PCK5/)
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Fabulist Joe does mention cannibals but every word he says is a lie.
https://shorturl.at/sCGWX
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:30 PM (FVME7)
Joe is owed reparations!!!!!
On May 14, 1944 at 5:05pm took off as a passenger aboard A-20G "Barry's Baby I.N.S." 42-86768 on a flight from Momote Airfield on Los Negros Island piloted by 1st Lt. Harold R. Prince on an administrative flight bound for Nadzab Airfield.
https://shorturl.at/sCGWX
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:30 PM (FVME7)
Joe is owed reparations!!!!!
On May 14, 1944 at 5:05pm took off as a passenger aboard A-20G "Barry's Baby I.N.S." 42-86768 on a flight from Momote Airfield on Los Negros Island piloted by 1st Lt. Harold R. Prince on an administrative flight bound for Nadzab Airfield.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 04:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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>>> 257
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Look, we are fully warranted to spy on the enemy in a time of war. We can't help it that you don't think there's a war.
Posted by: The Deep State at April 17, 2024 04:33 PM (DKHqY)
A war against OrangeManBad and Poo Tin to Protect Our Precious Democracy!!!
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Look, we are fully warranted to spy on the enemy in a time of war. We can't help it that you don't think there's a war.
Posted by: The Deep State at April 17, 2024 04:33 PM (DKHqY)
A war against OrangeManBad and Poo Tin to Protect Our Precious Democracy!!!
Posted by: leftists at April 17, 2024 04:34 PM (llON8)
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What's a "palestinian "? No such thing.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2024 04:34 PM (88juN)
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I heard it as "Uncle Milty... in a woodframe prop plane... shot down and eaten by cannibals."
TBH, I'm kind of surprised he didn't work Amelia Earhart into the story.
TBH, I'm kind of surprised he didn't work Amelia Earhart into the story.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:34 PM (CsUN+)
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We should have kept McCarthy. He's a fundraising beast, and had kept the attention on Biden's problems until Gaetz brought the attention back to the GOP's failures.
You're only get minimal shit when you have 1/2 of the congress and SCOTUS...
You're only get minimal shit when you have 1/2 of the congress and SCOTUS...
Posted by: Harun at April 17, 2024 04:35 PM (c2WeP)
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2001-2023: Gradually.
2024: Suddenly.
2024: Suddenly.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at April 17, 2024 04:35 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:35 PM (CsUN+)
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263 I heard it as "Uncle Milty... in a woodframe prop plane... shot down and eaten by cannibals."
TBH, I'm kind of surprised he didn't work Amelia Earhart into the story.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:34 PM (CsUN+)
She was too old for him to think about sniffing her hair.
TBH, I'm kind of surprised he didn't work Amelia Earhart into the story.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:34 PM (CsUN+)
She was too old for him to think about sniffing her hair.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:36 PM (ynpvh)
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There are ways around this through browser fingerprinting (identify your browser even if they can't track the connection) and, crucially, because most people are sloppy and will do personally-identifiable things while connected through a VPN. If you do that, the sloppiness and browser fingerprinting will obviate the VPN anyway. Most people aren't careful.
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Which proves this bill is about targeting Americans.
Not terrorists.
Which all the Republicans who voted for it know.
But the Boomers and FoxNews watchers still think Elliot Ness is running the FBI and fighting the mob.
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Which proves this bill is about targeting Americans.
Not terrorists.
Which all the Republicans who voted for it know.
But the Boomers and FoxNews watchers still think Elliot Ness is running the FBI and fighting the mob.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 04:36 PM (yikga)
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We should have kept McCarthy. He's a fundraising beast, and had kept the attention on Biden's problems until Gaetz brought the attention back to the GOP's failures. ...
Posted by: Harun at April 17, 2024 04:35 PM (c2WeP)
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"Everything was fine until somebody pointed out that it wasn't" is quite a take.
Posted by: Harun at April 17, 2024 04:35 PM (c2WeP)
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"Everything was fine until somebody pointed out that it wasn't" is quite a take.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:36 PM (HnUIn)
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> Can't the NSA already see everything it wants to see anyway? Why do they feel the need to rope every American into being an agent of the Stasi?
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I suspect the NSA and their affiliates hoover up everything. The various telecoms help. Some sites probably send their logs and content directly to them, being tools of the regime and all.
This site, as simple as it is, likely gets "scraped" for all the text and images. Probably takes 15 seconds to pull literally every letter and picture off the site daily.
So, yea, the NSA pretty much has access to everything but the key is how to parse the data in a meaningful way. (Enter Google with the ability to search the Internet for videos of dancing bats.)
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I suspect the NSA and their affiliates hoover up everything. The various telecoms help. Some sites probably send their logs and content directly to them, being tools of the regime and all.
This site, as simple as it is, likely gets "scraped" for all the text and images. Probably takes 15 seconds to pull literally every letter and picture off the site daily.
So, yea, the NSA pretty much has access to everything but the key is how to parse the data in a meaningful way. (Enter Google with the ability to search the Internet for videos of dancing bats.)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 17, 2024 04:36 PM (Q4IgG)
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250 No, I'm as cynical as anyone about the Dems, but even they haven't been so nakedly anti-Israel before. It's a sea change that many have noted, and IMHO, will cost them bigly with Jews.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (CsUN+)
Barry, John Brennan, and ValJar all ushered in "The Democrats are All-In on Islam" era in 2008, and it hasn't ceased since.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (CsUN+)
Barry, John Brennan, and ValJar all ushered in "The Democrats are All-In on Islam" era in 2008, and it hasn't ceased since.
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 04:37 PM (UnA8+)
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269 ++++
"Everything was fine until somebody pointed out that it wasn't" is quite a take.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:36 PM (HnUIn)
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"The GOP was in great shape and no one knew otherwise until the obvious was pointed out," is how I took it.
"Everything was fine until somebody pointed out that it wasn't" is quite a take.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:36 PM (HnUIn)
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"The GOP was in great shape and no one knew otherwise until the obvious was pointed out," is how I took it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)
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Wait. I thought Beau was eaten by cannibals.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:37 PM (FVME7)
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270
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So, yea, the NSA pretty much has access to everything but the key is how to parse the data in a meaningful way. (Enter Google with the ability to search the Internet for videos of dancing bats.)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 17, 2024 04:36 PM (Q4IgG)
https://youtu.be/G9A8PFlqM4U
...
So, yea, the NSA pretty much has access to everything but the key is how to parse the data in a meaningful way. (Enter Google with the ability to search the Internet for videos of dancing bats.)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 17, 2024 04:36 PM (Q4IgG)
https://youtu.be/G9A8PFlqM4U
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:37 PM (ynpvh)
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Atlantic City mayor Marty Small Sr. accused of beating his teenage daughter unconscious with a broom.
If you check the fine print of the FISA renewal act, you'll see that such action is now permitted.
If you check the fine print of the FISA renewal act, you'll see that such action is now permitted.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2024 04:37 PM (DKHqY)
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Those cameras that you have in your house that bounce a stream off a server? Yeah.
Posted by: fd at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (vFG9F)
277
Holy shit!
The Senate dismissed all the impeachment charges.
While the fucking Republicans told us the Constitution required--REQUIRED-- they hold the impeachment trial of Trump.
The Senate dismissed all the impeachment charges.
While the fucking Republicans told us the Constitution required--REQUIRED-- they hold the impeachment trial of Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (yikga)
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kept the attention on Biden's problems until Gaetz brought the attention back to the GOP's failures. ...
Posted by: Harun at April 17, 2024 04:35 PM (c2WeP)
Everything's better when you're allowed to fail miserably, but no one points it out.
Posted by: Harun at April 17, 2024 04:35 PM (c2WeP)
Everything's better when you're allowed to fail miserably, but no one points it out.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (Zz0t1)
279
This blonde in fishnets hates living in a police state ruled by panopticism:
http://tiny.cc/xhwsxz
http://tiny.cc/xhwsxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (HnUIn)
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Barry, John Brennan, and ValJar all ushered in "The Democrats are All-In on Islam" era in 2008, and it hasn't ceased since.
I don't doubt it in private, but in public, support of Israel used to be de rigueur. That has changed.
I don't doubt it in private, but in public, support of Israel used to be de rigueur. That has changed.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (CsUN+)
281
"If we don't pass the FISA Reauthorization everyone will blame us for the next terrorist attack and, more importantly, I will then lose my seat and, most importantly of all, I will then have to get a real job! HELL NO!!"
Posted by: The Grand Old Pussies, A Wholly Owned Subsidiary of the Democrat-Communist Party of America at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (qUkBO)
282
Everything on WIFI like the spy doorbells, thermostats, appliances, streaming services, etc.??
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (NFX2v)
283
277 Holy shit!
The Senate dismissed all the impeachment charges.
While the fucking Republicans told us the Constitution required--REQUIRED-- they hold the impeachment trial of Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (yikga)
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I was told that Republicans holding the line on decorum meant that Democrats HAD to do the same in return.
The Senate dismissed all the impeachment charges.
While the fucking Republicans told us the Constitution required--REQUIRED-- they hold the impeachment trial of Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (yikga)
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I was told that Republicans holding the line on decorum meant that Democrats HAD to do the same in return.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (GBKbO)
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>>> 273 Wait. I thought Beau was eaten by cannibals.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:37 PM (FVME7)
They were going to, but he made friends with them, and fought against the Japs who had invaded the cannibals' island, until the Japs shot him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:37 PM (FVME7)
They were going to, but he made friends with them, and fought against the Japs who had invaded the cannibals' island, until the Japs shot him.
Posted by: Brandon at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (llON8)
285
277 Holy shit!
The Senate dismissed all the impeachment charges.
While the fucking Republicans told us the Constitution required--REQUIRED-- they hold the impeachment trial of Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (yikga)
The Demoncrats actually understand how to use power.
The GOPe just wants more money.
You want to reform a party? Forget the GOP. Infiltrate and Subvert the Dems.
The Senate dismissed all the impeachment charges.
While the fucking Republicans told us the Constitution required--REQUIRED-- they hold the impeachment trial of Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (yikga)
The Demoncrats actually understand how to use power.
The GOPe just wants more money.
You want to reform a party? Forget the GOP. Infiltrate and Subvert the Dems.
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (UnA8+)
286
Wait. I thought Beau was eaten by cannibals.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:37 PM (FVME7)
He was killed by Saddam Hussein as the first one into the tunnel Hussein was hiding in. That's why the convicted and hung him.
Beau ended the Iraq war.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:37 PM (FVME7)
He was killed by Saddam Hussein as the first one into the tunnel Hussein was hiding in. That's why the convicted and hung him.
Beau ended the Iraq war.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (Zz0t1)
287
277 Holy shit!
The Senate dismissed all the impeachment charges.
While the fucking Republicans told us the Constitution required--REQUIRED-- they hold the impeachment trial of Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (yikga)
"Our Democracy" demanded it.
The Senate dismissed all the impeachment charges.
While the fucking Republicans told us the Constitution required--REQUIRED-- they hold the impeachment trial of Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (yikga)
"Our Democracy" demanded it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:40 PM (ynpvh)
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>>> 282 Everything on WIFI like the spy doorbells, thermostats, appliances, streaming services, etc.??
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (NFX2v)
"Wiretap, find me a pancake recipe"
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (NFX2v)
"Wiretap, find me a pancake recipe"
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 17, 2024 04:40 PM (llON8)
289
No, I'm as cynical as anyone about the Dems, but even they haven't been so nakedly anti-Israel before. It's a sea change that many have noted, and IMHO, will cost them bigly with Jews.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (CsUN+)
They really have. Remember when Obama dumped Netanyahu and essentially made him find the back door of the White House in 2010?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:32 PM (CsUN+)
They really have. Remember when Obama dumped Netanyahu and essentially made him find the back door of the White House in 2010?
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2024 04:40 PM (lX8VI)
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:40 PM (CsUN+)
291
The Senate dismissal. This comes as no surprise.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2024 04:40 PM (88juN)
292
Well, he was impeached.
Posted by: duh GOP at April 17, 2024 04:40 PM (vFG9F)
293
This blonde in fishnets hates living in a police state ruled by panopticism:
http://tiny.cc/xhwsxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (HnUIn)
Dayum! Never got one of those in my nets!
http://tiny.cc/xhwsxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (HnUIn)
Dayum! Never got one of those in my nets!
Posted by: Captain Highliner at April 17, 2024 04:40 PM (tkR6S)
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I heard it as "Uncle Milty... in a woodframe prop plane... shot down and eaten by cannibals."
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"On May 14, 1944 at 5:05pm took off as a passenger aboard A-20G "Barry's Baby I.N.S." 42-86768 on a flight from Momote Airfield on Los Negros Island piloted by 1st Lt. Harold R. Prince on an administrative flight bound for Nadzab Airfield."
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Barry's Baby? They've been planning this a long, long time.
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"On May 14, 1944 at 5:05pm took off as a passenger aboard A-20G "Barry's Baby I.N.S." 42-86768 on a flight from Momote Airfield on Los Negros Island piloted by 1st Lt. Harold R. Prince on an administrative flight bound for Nadzab Airfield."
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Barry's Baby? They've been planning this a long, long time.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2024 04:41 PM (FVME7)
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282 Everything on WIFI like the spy doorbells, thermostats, appliances, streaming services, etc.??
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (NFX2v)
Don't have none of dose.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (NFX2v)
Don't have none of dose.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:41 PM (ynpvh)
296
Remember when Obama dumped Netanyahu and essentially made him find the back door of the White House in 2010?
Fair point.
Fair point.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:41 PM (CsUN+)
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The Senate dismissed all the impeachment charges.
-------------
And now you know the reason for the impeachment in the first place.
Another point for the Nothing Will Happen crowd. I think that now makes the score 1 million to... ironically... nothing.
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And now you know the reason for the impeachment in the first place.
Another point for the Nothing Will Happen crowd. I think that now makes the score 1 million to... ironically... nothing.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2024 04:41 PM (lX8VI)
298
A Palestinian is a Arab no one wants in their back yard
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2024 04:41 PM (fwDg9)
299
New one. Impeachment.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:42 PM (CsUN+)
300
293 This blonde in fishnets hates living in a police state ruled by panopticism:
http://tiny.cc/xhwsxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (HnUIn)
Dayum! Never got one of those in my nets!
Posted by: Captain Highliner at April 17, 2024 04:40 PM (tkR6S)
PRobably been fishin' the wrong places.
http://tiny.cc/xhwsxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 17, 2024 04:38 PM (HnUIn)
Dayum! Never got one of those in my nets!
Posted by: Captain Highliner at April 17, 2024 04:40 PM (tkR6S)
PRobably been fishin' the wrong places.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:42 PM (ynpvh)
301
298 A Palestinian is a Arab no one wants in their back yard
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2024 04:41 PM (fwDg9)
I do have to ask, though. Arabs could have been so much more, if not for the Evil Mark of Muhammad, the Pedophile Piss Prophet, and his Death Cult... could they have not?
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2024 04:41 PM (fwDg9)
I do have to ask, though. Arabs could have been so much more, if not for the Evil Mark of Muhammad, the Pedophile Piss Prophet, and his Death Cult... could they have not?
Posted by: XTC at April 17, 2024 04:43 PM (UnA8+)
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299 New one. Impeachment.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:42 PM (CsUN+)
Ahoy! NOOD Spotted!
Posted by: Archimedes at April 17, 2024 04:42 PM (CsUN+)
Ahoy! NOOD Spotted!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 17, 2024 04:43 PM (ynpvh)
303
If I was a cynical person I would think the Republicans revealed the Club they are in today…
Posted by: tubal at April 17, 2024 04:43 PM (PCK5/)
304
Everything on WIFI like the spy doorbells, thermostats, appliances, streaming services, etc.??
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (NFX2v)
"Wiretap, find me a pancake recipe"
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
I can't do that Dave. All our agents are busy at the moment.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:39 PM (NFX2v)
"Wiretap, find me a pancake recipe"
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
I can't do that Dave. All our agents are busy at the moment.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2024 04:44 PM (gkpAx)
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 17, 2024 04:44 PM (NFX2v)
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Atlantic City mayor Marty Small Sr. accused of beating his teenage daughter unconscious with a broom.
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Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? Boy, if only somebody had told me . . .
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Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? Boy, if only somebody had told me . . .
Posted by: Mayor Marty Small Sr. at April 17, 2024 04:46 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 17, 2024 04:47 PM (vtyCZ)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2024 04:47 PM (woPEM)
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Well, the illegals have to be concentrated in the cities if their votes are going to be used to illegally manufacture votes (which they are). Hence, the willingness to endure all the pain associated with them.
Posted by: Bugs and Circuses at April 17, 2024 04:47 PM (2DpKB)
310
Gotta defeat MAGA, and need every tool we can possibly have to do that.
Posted by: Sid at April 17, 2024 04:54 PM (zMtyW)
311
FBI won't need to stage it...we've got so many illegal terrorists over the border, they could probably execute a plan in any place at any time. So, the FBI would just need to give a push, but not actually run anything.
"We call it a 'nudge.'"
-- CIA Poofter on video
"We call it a 'nudge.'"
-- CIA Poofter on video
Posted by: Oddbob at April 17, 2024 05:02 PM (/y8xj)
312
Don Black.
He didn't say that uncle boobala succumbed to cannibals, they were mentioned in the clip.
https://tinyurl.com/2e5n6dsj
Red State, scroll down to the clip.
He didn't say that uncle boobala succumbed to cannibals, they were mentioned in the clip.
https://tinyurl.com/2e5n6dsj
Red State, scroll down to the clip.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at April 17, 2024 05:05 PM (2NHgQ)
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Can't the NSA already see everything it wants to see anyway? Why do they feel the need to rope every American into being an agent of the Stasi?
Posted by: CaliGirl
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Because it is not enough to merely comply; you must *love* Big Brother
Posted by: CaliGirl
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Because it is not enough to merely comply; you must *love* Big Brother
Posted by: O'Brien, probably at April 17, 2024 05:10 PM (njWTi)
314
It's unbelievable, but he's actually a lot worse than Kevin McCarthy was.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at April 17, 2024 05:11 PM (xaNfJ)
315
No need for debate exists. It’s a straight-up ploy to use legislation to override the Constitution, which is a flat violation of the Supreme Law of the Land. And they wonder why we have 2A…
Posted by: Alexander Scipio at April 17, 2024 06:03 PM (NX5U7)
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I'm betting Johnson isn't banging white, blonde hookers like King was, tho.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Well, that's his misfortune.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 17, 2024 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Well, that's his misfortune.
Posted by: Zombie MLK at April 17, 2024 06:07 PM (iODuv)
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If we're now all spies who do I call to report Daszak and Fauci to?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at April 17, 2024 06:16 PM (tAQG6)
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Watch the 'The lives of others' (German movie about the Stasi) also in Cuba they still have Comites de Defensa de la Revolucion (CDR) or neighborhood spies that keep an eye on you all the time. Our country is already gone. Our Congress is not doing their jobs, they are there to get richer. I hate to think how this will end, but it's not pretty.
Posted by: kilroy at April 18, 2024 05:53 PM (TrbUr)
319
McCarthy was a compromise. Johnson is a betrayal.
Posted by: futwick at April 18, 2024 05:53 PM (hp683)
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