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Judge Gives Rust Armorer 18 Months in Prison

Tough stuff.


Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the armorer on the set of "Rust" who was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter after cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was shot on set and died, was sentenced to the maximum penalty of 18 months in prison on Monday.

Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer gave the maximum sentence as Gutierrez-Reed did not "take accountability in her allocution," did not apologize for what she did and is not remorseful for her role, adding: "Your attorney had to tell the court you were remorseful."

An allocution is a detailed admission of every act the defendant committed. It's more than a plea, it's a narrative confessing guilt step-by-step. Sometimes it's required as part of a plea. Guuterrez-Reed was found guilty by a jury, though. I think New Mexico allows a defendant to make an allocution post-verdict to take responsibility for the crime, and get a reduced sentence if the judge approves.

The judge did not approve.

...

Gutierrez-Reed was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in March following a trial that revolved around whether she neglected safety protocols with live ammunition loaded into the prop gun.

The state prosecutors said before Monday's sentencing Gutierrez-Reed "continues to refuse to accept responsibility for her role in the death of Halyna Hutchins" and instead has placed blame on witnesses, jurors, the set medic and more.

...

At the start of the sentencing, prosecutor Kari Morrissey claimed Gutierrez-Reed's jail phone calls showed her real character. NBC News reported that in calls with her mother, boyfriend and the paralegal for her attorney, Gutierrez-Reed said jurors were "idiots" and "a**holes" and complained about how long it took them to deliberate.

Sentencing the armorer to 18 months in jail makes it very hard for the state to give Alec Baldwin a sweetheart deal and sentence him to a month of community service on MSNBC. After all, he's the guy who actually fired the fatal bullet, and he is just as negligent as Guitterez-Reed.

But I trust The Regime to find a way to say "no intent."

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:10 PM




Comments

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1 Hi ace!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 16, 2024 02:11 PM (4XwPj)

2 If the judge does let arec bardwin off easier wont that set up grounds for appeal?

Posted by: Outside of Life at April 16, 2024 02:12 PM (89Sog)

3 It's always nice to have an uppity wench as the first amongst your commentators.

Right Ace?

And I hope they nail Baldwin to the wall.

Posted by: SimoHayha at April 16, 2024 02:12 PM (N/k1H)

4 Uh oh…

Posted by: Moonbeam at April 16, 2024 02:12 PM (xeWc8)

5 Hopefully the court jury finds Baldwin guilty and the judge awards Alec the rare and underused "chainsaw" to the skull sentence...just saying.

Posted by: Boswell at April 16, 2024 02:12 PM (K+UlC)

6 She deserves to be in prison. She's a fuckup.

She's also a nepot and will probably find another gig in Hollywood once she's out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

7 Baldwin will get nothing.

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2024 02:13 PM (FQmDC)

8 I summoned the others.

Posted by: SimoHayha at April 16, 2024 02:13 PM (N/k1H)

9 I despise people who fuck around with guns. She didn't take them seriously, and she was at least partially culpable for someone's death.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2024 02:13 PM (HARes)

10 I was going to agree that Alec would get no time in prison because he can't do his Trump impersonation from prison.
But, if Trump goes to prison...!

It's comedy gold, Jerry!

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at April 16, 2024 02:13 PM (FCbAQ)

11 Sentencing the armorer to 18 months in jail makes it very hard for the state to give Alec Baldwin a sweetheart deal and sentence him to a month of community service on MSNBC. After all, he's the guy who actually fired the fatal bullet, and he is just as negligent as Guitterez-Reed.
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Unless they decide that the crime has been punished already and they can finally put this sordid affair behind them...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:14 PM (HnUIn)

12 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:14 PM (vf0Uk)

13 You always miss the shots you didn't take.

Posted by: Hockey analogy at April 16, 2024 02:14 PM (TZB1e)

14 But I trust The Regime to find a way to say "no intent."
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They can't imprison Baldwin. His hispanic immigrant wife depends on him, and it would be inhumane!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:14 PM (HnUIn)

15 I want to believe that Baldwin would get a longer sentence for killing someone. But I don't.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 16, 2024 02:14 PM (4XwPj)

16 She deserves to be in prison. She's a fuckup.

She's also a nepot and will probably find another gig in Hollywood once she's out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Eh, I doubt it. She'll be okay, but probably will never be an armorer again.

But something tells me she won't serve 18 months. When they give Baldwin "community service" filming some gun-control PSAs, her lawyers will appeal and she'll be be quietly released after they reduce her sentence to six months with time served.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (HnUIn)

17 Oh, come now. Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo shot 'oo...

Posted by: Monty Python at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (TZB1e)

18 In other entertainment news, I saw that John Cougar Mellencamp threw a fit and ended a show an hour early after someone in the audience booed him giving a lecture on Our Precious Democracy and how wonderful Joe and Jill Biden are.

His shit fit sounds like he *is* Joe Biden, or at least has dementia rage.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (2ocoG)

19 If they find Baldwin "Not Guilty," can the Hutchins family then go after him for "Wrongful Death," like the Browns and Goldman's did with OJ?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (9yWhg)

20 I haven't been following the case, and while Gutierrez-Reed sounds like a real peach, the idea that the amount of time you spend incarcerated comes down to whether some dipshit judge who very likely ignores ICE detainers believes your forced apology is absurd.

Posted by: Xander Crews at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (0SXBv)

21 Tony Stewart accelerated to fling mud on a young kid and ended up sucking him up with the rear tire and flinging him to his death. NASCAR wanted Stewart back in the car that weekend to race. No charges were ever filed. The kid was found to have THC in his system, therefore he earned his death according to the courts.

Vince Neil drove his Pantera while drunk, lost control at high speed and killed his passenger after wrapping the car around a phone poll. He served no time nor was punished for his deeds.


They live a completely different set of rules than the rest of us.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (vf0Uk)

22 I despise people who fuck around with guns. She didn't take them seriously, and she was at least partially culpable for someone's death.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2024 02:13 PM (HARes)
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Absolutely. When something like this happens, there is not a single fuckup (action or person) in the chain. Baldwin certainly has culpability, too - but I suspect he *does* get a sweetheart deal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (HnUIn)

23 "Sentencing the armorer to 18 months in jail makes it very hard for the state to give Alec Baldwin a sweetheart deal and sentence him to a month of community service on MSNBC. "

I hope you're right, but I fear the opposite: the heavy sentence for the armorer is to assign scapegoaty blame on someone other than Baldwin and close the matter. "See? It was the armorer's fault. She got 18 months! Let's move on . . . ."

The armorer was negligent and deserves some of the blame. But Baldwin was the fucking idiot who shot the women. And to this day I am 100% convinced that it did not go down like he claims.

Remember that someone else also got shot. How did that happen? I've never seen a satisfactory explanation for how Baldwin was doing what he claims to have been doing, and one person ends up dead and another shot. The whole thing is a yuge stinky cover-up.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (iFTx/)

24 There should be a sports book where you can place bets on Baldwin's outcome.

Posted by: mr tmz at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (rJ48h)

25 Baldwin deserves to rot in hell.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (OcYWs)

26 His hispanic immigrant wife depends on him, and it would be inhumane!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:14 PM (HnUIn)



Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (vf0Uk)

27 I want to believe that Baldwin would get a longer sentence for killing someone. But I don't.
Posted by: Madamemayhem
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After all Baldwin is just an actor and as such he just knows that he'd never be handed a real gun.

Posted by: Cosda at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (sPNpp)

28 But something tells me she won't serve 18 months. When they give Baldwin "community service" filming some gun-control PSAs, her lawyers will appeal and she'll be be quietly released after they reduce her sentence to six months with time served.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (HnUIn)
_______________

This sounds all too plausible.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2024 02:18 PM (f871o)

29 Oh, come now. Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo shot 'oo...
Posted by: Monty Python at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (TZB1e)

I think Alec Balwin's last words before he shot the cinematographer was "come at me with that banana!"

Posted by: Boswell at April 16, 2024 02:18 PM (K+UlC)

30 Ah, the american "justice" system.

Corrupt, inept, incompetent, arrogant, ignorant and sexually disordered.

And those are just the "judges".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 16, 2024 02:18 PM (cDEsv)

31 She's also a nepot and will probably find another gig in Hollywood once she's out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fight

Who is she the spawn of?

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 02:18 PM (CIS44)

32 And Alec Baldwin… walks?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2024 02:19 PM (Hkcdp)

33 If they find Baldwin "Not Guilty," can the Hutchins family then go after him for "Wrongful Death," like the Browns and Goldman's did with OJ?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (9yWhg)



The civil case is separate and can be brought regardless of the criminal trial result, I believe.

However, I'm not a lawyer and did NOT stay in some fleabag hotel last night.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:19 PM (vf0Uk)

34 They live a completely different set of rules than the rest of us.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (vf0Uk)
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Yup. Back when I was in school, some famous dude got away with something. I forget who and what it was, but one of my classmates commented - in full conformity with the official ideology - "it's disgusting that the rich get away with stuff like this."

I told her, "not at all. Rich people have an easier time in court because they can afford better lawyers, but it's celebrities that have always get away with it. You don't have to be rich, you just have to be famous."

There is *nothing* in the United States as powerful as celebrity. You have to *really* and very, very serious fuck up to face consequences if you're a celebrity. You have to be really, really bad - like dodge your taxes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (HnUIn)

35 At the start of the sentencing, prosecutor Kari Morrissey claimed Gutierrez-Reed's jail phone calls showed her real character. NBC News reported that in calls with her mother, boyfriend and the paralegal for her attorney, Gutierrez-Reed said jurors were "idiots" and "a**holes" and complained about how long it took them to deliberate.

My wife, who loves me enough to keep me informed about cases like this despite my obvious disinterest, tells me that she also talked about getting around conditions of her probation and sneaking a gun into a bar.

She's an idiot, which is bad enough, but she's a connected idiot who discovered the hard way that she wasn't connected enough.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (nR2nR)

36 24 There should be a sports book where you can place bets on Baldwin's outcome.
Posted by: mr tmz at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (rJ48h)

========

Tangent:

So, sports betting is suddenly legal in NC as of a few weeks ago, and the radio has been blaring with ads for an assortment of them. They all have promos going where you place a $5 bet, and then you get three figures in extra betting money.

The idea is to get you hooked, but I wonder if it's possible to place the $5 bet, get the $150 promo (some seem to go up to $250), place it on some kind of 1:1 odds matchup, and then cashout with at least a good portion of the promo amount.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

37 I bet Alec tries to flee to Italy, his wife’s homeland, lol!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (Hkcdp)

38 31 She's also a nepot and will probably find another gig in Hollywood once she's out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fight

Who is she the spawn of?
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 02:18 PM (CIS44)

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Another armorer.

She'll get a makeup job, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

39 He shot a Republican, much lighter sentence.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (J8LnB)

40 Amazing, this, in modern America and in a blue state. A woman, a member of a protected race class, and a rather pretty creature to boot *, actually has to face consequences for her actions.

I'm gobsmacked.

(* Okay, she has RBF, and she could lose a few pounds. But I was startled to see she was pretty anyway.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (J2vNu)

41 29 Oh, come now. Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo shot 'oo...
Posted by: Monty Python at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (TZB1e)

I think Alec Balwin's last words before he shot the cinematographer was "come at me with that banana!"
Posted by: Boswell at April 16, 2024 02:18 PM (K+UlC)

"NEXT, you EAT the BANANA!!"

- Drill Sergeant John Cleese

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (T+Iwg)

42 It is preposterous that in an industry full of stages, sets, props, and CGI, that Hollywood feels the need to use actual guns on their sets. ( Same applies to actual naked bodies.)

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (d9Cw3)

43 Maybe it was answered during the trial? How in the hades did live ammunition show up on the set and get loaded into the weapon? She was the armorer, and it is her responsibility for the safe use of weaponry on the set. Baldwin did point and pull the trigger. I guess those four rules concerning firearm safety that the "evil" NRA, GOA and others preaches are just BS to Baldwin...?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at April 16, 2024 02:21 PM (+YRf1)

44 I want to believe that Baldwin would get a longer sentence for killing someone. But I don't.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 16, 2024 02:14 PM (4XwPj)


That's just because you're intelligent and older than 12.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:21 PM (nR2nR)

45 33 If they find Baldwin "Not Guilty," can the Hutchins family then go after him for "Wrongful Death," like the Browns and Goldman's did with OJ?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (9yWhg)


The civil case is separate and can be brought regardless of the criminal trial result, I believe.

However, I'm not a lawyer and did NOT stay in some fleabag hotel last night.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:19 PM (vf0Uk)
_____

Yes, they can go after him in civil court even if he sleazes his way out of a criminal conviction. Different burdens of proof. That's exactly what happened in the OJ case.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 02:21 PM (iFTx/)

46 Alec Baldwin is actually a soldier in Mitt Romney's war on women.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

47 I think Baldwin will be acquited and put out a book "If I did it...its because I'm an idiot."

Posted by: Boswell at April 16, 2024 02:21 PM (K+UlC)

48 I didn't inhale. I mean, I didn't pull the trigger.

Posted by: Arec Baldwin at April 16, 2024 02:21 PM (woPEM)

49 Sentencing the armorer to 18 months in jail makes it very hard for the state to give Alec Baldwin a sweetheart deal

Why? He is much higher in the left's hierarchy then some random armorer is.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 16, 2024 02:21 PM (ibTVg)

50 like dodge your taxes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (HnUIn)



Wesley Snipes did 1/3 of what Hunter Biden is accused (proven) of doing.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:21 PM (vf0Uk)

51 I seriously doubt Baldwin will even get community service as he being a Saint to loony left.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (17s+e)

52 Wesley Snipes did 1/3 of what Hunter Biden is accused (proven) of doing.........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:21 PM (vf0Uk)
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And they threw him in prison for it. Not even a celebrity can get away with tax evasion. Rape, murder, child molestation, embezzlement, defrauding investors - virtually everything else is on the table if you're a celebrity, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)

53 "NEXT, you EAT the BANANA!!"

- Drill Sergeant John Cleese
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (T+Iwg)

What about pointed sticks?

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (XPM1I)

54 If they find Baldwin "Not Guilty," can the Hutchins family then go after him for "Wrongful Death," like the Browns and Goldman's did with OJ?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (9yWhg)


No. But they could go after Trump. -- Association of Democrat Attorneys General

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (nR2nR)

55 Baldwin deserves to rot in hell.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM (OcYWs)

That may be true but is a different issue.
The one thing I've thought about is that at some point, if that loaded gun was assigned to Alec, he was actually going to pull that trigger during filming eventually.
That bullet shouldn't have been there, and it was destined for someone in the future. If he hadn't been fucking around, it wouldn't have been the cinematographer, but might have been a co-star.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (FCbAQ)

56 She wouldn't have had to keep track of that gun if the Republicans had just let the production use pink water pistols. They can edit that stuff in post production.

Posted by: Sid! at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (rZJY8)

57 I seriously doubt Baldwin will even get community service as he being a Saint to loony left.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (17s+e)
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It'll be narrative-conforming "community service" in keeping with his station. Like filming PSAs or giving lectures about gun violence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:23 PM (HnUIn)

58 He is worfress.

Posted by: Kim Jong at April 16, 2024 02:23 PM (Be/+i)

59 early off topic but i thunk it was worth mentioning: from us news and word retort:

Attorney General Merrick Garland told lawmakers on Tuesday that President Joe Biden has shown no signs of cognitive impairment while defending Biden's ability to serve as commander in chief.

Garland, appearing before a House committee overseeing funding for the Justice Department, was answering questions on the report from special counsel Robert Hur about Biden's handling of classified material. Hur's report concluded in no criminal charges yet made some observations about Biden's mental state that infuriated the Democratic president and his aides.

The attorney general, while stressing that he was not commenting on the specifics of Hur's analysis, said that based on his own observations while interacting with Biden, he has "complete confidence in the president" when it comes to questions about his mental fitness.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (B1FKF)

60 She was the armorer, and it is her responsibility for the safe use of weaponry on the set. Baldwin did point and pull the trigger.

My take on this is that if Baldwin had followed the script and the script called for firing the weapon at someone else on stage the armorer would be to blame.

But...he didn't follow the script. He threatened someone just because he's an asshole then pointed a gun at that person and pulled the trigger.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (ibTVg)

61 Baldwin will simply rely on the Marion Barry defense: "The bitch set me up!"

Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (xsrxA)

62 I think New Mexico allows a defendant to make an allocution post-verdict to take responsibility for the crime, and get a reduced sentence if the judge approves.

--

I am not licensed to practice law in New Mexico, nor am I a lawyer, but I did watch "Better Call Saul" twice. This is correct.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (wzAuc)

63 ++++
And they threw him in prison for it. Not even a celebrity can get away with tax evasion. Rape, murder, child molestation, embezzlement, defrauding investors - virtually everything else is on the table if you're a celebrity, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)



Hunter is also accused of tax evasion, so there's different levels of the 2nd city justice system.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (vf0Uk)

64 Huh. USA Today referred to her not as the "armorer" or the "firearms wrangler" (both terms with which I am familiar), but as the "weaponsmith."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)

65 OT: Apparently Katie Couric is flapping her cocksucker about "anti-intellectualism" being the driving force in the MAGA movement. Evidently, in this conception of the political landscape, Katie Couric is an "intellectual."

Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (ssz2a)

66 They have Hunter Biden on video having sex with underage girls.

And they will do nothing about it.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (ibTVg)

67 64 Huh. USA Today referred to her not as the "armorer" or the "firearms wrangler" (both terms with which I am familiar), but as the "weaponsmith."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)

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So, she made the weapon, then?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

68 My take on this is that if Baldwin had followed the script and the script called for firing the weapon at someone else on stage the armorer would be to blame.

But...he didn't follow the script. He threatened someone just because he's an asshole then pointed a gun at that person and pulled the trigger.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (ibTVg)
++++
And so he should share blame with the armorer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (HnUIn)

69 I guess those four rules concerning firearm safety that the "evil" NRA, GOA and others preaches are just BS to Baldwin...?
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at April 16, 2024


***
AB was handling guns quite a bit in Hunt for Red October. Good thing he didn't somehow shoot Sean Connery.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (J2vNu)

70 Sentencing the armorer to 18 months in jail makes it very hard for the state to give Alec Baldwin a sweetheart deal and sentence him to a month of community service on MSNBC. After all, he's the guy who actually fired the fatal bullet, and he is just as negligent as Guitterez-Reed.

In a contest of who showed the least amount of remorse, and since that is the determining factor on the length of sentencing, you would think a highly acclaimed actor could fake some remorse - but no, Alec spent years denying everything, but because we have a profoundly corrupt and dysfunctional justice legal court [control system, Alec will walk.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (4HcMG)

71 Weaponsmith > Poopsmith > Pete Bootyjuice

Posted by: 18-1 at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (ibTVg)

72 And they threw him in prison for it. Not even a celebrity can get away with tax evasion. Rape, murder, child molestation, embezzlement, defrauding investors - virtually everything else is on the table if you're a celebrity, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)
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The IRS has one rule above all else: "FU! Pay me!"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (7fElN)

73 Baldwin has committed multiple felony assaults during his career

Posted by: steevy at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (FQmDC)

74 "NEXT, you EAT the BANANA!!"

- Drill Sergeant John Cleese
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 16, 2024 02:20 PM (T+Iwg)



"DON'T RUSH STRAIGHT FOR THE CLITORUS!!!"

- - Also Drill Sergeant John Cleese

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (vf0Uk)

75 Huh. USA Today referred to her not as the "armorer" or the "firearms wrangler" (both terms with which I am familiar), but as the "weaponsmith."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)
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Sounds pretty ignorant on their part.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (Be/+i)

76 What we have here, is a failure to communicate.

Non gun people will find her guilty all day long.

Gun people KNOW it's the person who is holding the gun's responsibility NO MATTER WHAT.

A little exercise:
I hand you a gun and tell you it's empty and to point it at your child's head and pull the trigger.

Do you listen to me or do you check it?
If you check it, it's because you don't trust me.
(As you shouldn't)
If you don't check it and you believe me, you are a dumb ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:26 PM (/SITW)

77 Sentencing the armorer to 18 months in jail makes it very hard for the state to give Alec Baldwin a sweetheart deal and sentence him to a month of community service on MSNBC. After all, he's the guy who actually fired the fatal bullet, and he is just as negligent as Guitterez-Reed.

In a contest of who showed the least amount of remorse, and since that is the determining factor on the length of sentencing, you would think a highly acclaimed actor could fake some remorse - but no, Alec spent years denying everything, but because we have a profoundly corrupt and dysfunctional justice legal court [control system, Alec will walk.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure


Plus NM is corrupt AF to begin with, so.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at April 16, 2024 02:26 PM (OUMaO)

78 Hopefully the court jury finds Baldwin guilty and the judge awards Alec the rare and underused "chainsaw" to the skull sentence...just saying.

Only if the jury confuses Alec with the Trump dude they kept seeing on SNL, then TDS kicks in.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 16, 2024 02:26 PM (4HcMG)

79 OT: Apparently Katie Couric is flapping her cocksucker about "anti-intellectualism" being the driving force in the MAGA movement. Evidently, in this conception of the political landscape, Katie Couric is an "intellectual."
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 16, 2024


***
No, just "anti-stupidity"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:26 PM (J2vNu)

80 OT: Apparently Katie Couric is flapping her cocksucker about "anti-intellectualism" being the driving force in the MAGA movement. Evidently, in this conception of the political landscape, Katie Couric is an "intellectual."
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (ssz2a)



More importantly, how's her colon? Have we seen it lately? Time for an update.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:26 PM (vf0Uk)

81 AB was handling guns quite a bit in Hunt for Red October. Good thing he didn't somehow shoot Sean Connery.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (J2vNu)
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He was dual-wielding pistols in The Shadow...

He could have killed half his castmates in that one...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:26 PM (7fElN)

82 Hell. Lets see what they give the irresponsible son of a bitch that pulled the trigger.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2024 02:27 PM (pohLc)

83
More importantly, how's her colon? Have we seen it lately? Time for an update.


That's one colon even I don't want to see

Posted by: Pete Bootyjizz at April 16, 2024 02:27 PM (ibTVg)

84 AB was handling guns quite a bit in Hunt for Red October. Good thing he didn't somehow shoot Sean Connery.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (J2vNu)



I thought that was a different Baldwin in that movie.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:28 PM (vf0Uk)

85 Hunter is also accused of tax evasion, so there's different levels of the 2nd city justice system.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (vf0Uk)
++++
Oh yes.

The order goes:
1. Rube
2. Party member/ally
3. Politician/high-level Party man
4. Celebrity (unless you walk off the reservation, then subtract positions)
5. Upper-level ruling class

The consequences go from "most severe no matter what" all the way up to "total immunity no matter what" in the same order.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:28 PM (HnUIn)

86 Alec Baldwin is the movie’s producer who hired thigal in addition to being the actor who pointed and shot someone with it.

I would think that would factor into his culpability?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2024 02:28 PM (Hkcdp)

87 And they threw him in prison for it. Not even a celebrity can get away with tax evasion. Rape, murder, child molestation, embezzlement, defrauding investors - virtually everything else is on the table if you're a celebrity, though.
Posted by: Joe



"Biden

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:28 PM (RjBju)

88 Noticing the crew of this film, why did Alec Baldwin have so many seemingly unqualified young girls working on his set?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (73voq)

89 86 Alec Baldwin is the movie’s producer who hired thigal in addition to being the actor who pointed and shot someone with it.

I would think that would factor into his culpability?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2024 02:28 PM (Hkcdp)

========

He's arguably more culpable than the armorer.

They both deserve to be in jail.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (GBKbO)

90 I thought that was a different Baldwin in that movie.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:28 PM (vf0Uk)
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He was a lot thinner and younger back then...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (7fElN)

91 Huh. USA Today referred to her not as the "armorer" or the "firearms wrangler" (both terms with which I am familiar), but as the "weaponsmith."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)
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Sounds pretty ignorant on their part.
Posted by: Captain Obvious


A "smith" fixes or repairs. Gunsmith. Blacksmith.
A wrangler keeps control over something. An armorer maintains where firearms are stored.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (/SITW)

92 Noticing the crew of this film, why did Alec Baldwin have so many seemingly unqualified young girls working on his set?

Well, it isn't going to suck itself

Posted by: Here is in Alex Baldwin's voice and you know its the reason at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (ibTVg)

93 We recently rewatched Beetljuice. Alex Baldwin looked like a completely different person. Hubbymayhem didn't recognize him.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (4XwPj)

94 ---
He was a lot thinner and younger back then...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (7fElN)



that would explain it......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (vf0Uk)

95 86 Alec Baldwin is the movie’s producer who hired thigal in addition to being the actor who pointed and shot someone with it.

I would think that would factor into his culpability?




He was not the producer, did not hire her

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (RjBju)

96 The armorer was recorded on jailhouse phone calls claiming jurors were assholes. I'm sure that helped win the heart and mind of the Judge.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (N39Ws)

97 33 If they find Baldwin "Not Guilty," can the Hutchins family then go after him for "Wrongful Death," like the Browns and Goldman's did with OJ?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:16 PM (9yWhg)


The civil case is separate and can be brought regardless of the criminal trial result, I believe.


An acquittal in the criminal case would have no bearing on the civil case, since the standard of proof in a criminal case is 'beyond a reasonable doubt' but the standard in a civil case is 'by a preponderance of the evidence.' Thus, it is theoretically consistent that a criminal jury could acquit, but a civil jury could impose liability based on exactly the same evidence. It just means that the evidence was just strong enough to meet the lower civil standard, but not strong enough to meet the higher criminal one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (+myjY)

98 72 And they threw him in prison for it. Not even a celebrity can get away with tax evasion. Rape, murder, child molestation, embezzlement, defrauding investors - virtually everything else is on the table if you're a celebrity, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)
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The IRS has one rule above all else: "FU! Pay me!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:25 PM (7fElN)
___________

Snipes was sentenced to three fucking years in prison. Twice what the armorer got and almost certainly more than what Baldwin will get for killing a woman. And Snipes did almost all the time: he served 28 months.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (iFTx/)

99 Noticing the crew of this film, why did Alec Baldwin have so many seemingly unqualified young girls working on his set?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie


Hmmmmmm. I wonder. Unqualified, young girls, way out in the desert. Hmmmmmm.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (/SITW)

100 90 I thought that was a different Baldwin in that movie.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:28 PM (vf0Uk)
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He was a lot thinner and younger back then...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (7fElN)

Honestly, I thought he was a lot closer to Clancy's Jack Ryan than Harrison Ford was.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 16, 2024 02:31 PM (T+Iwg)

101 96 The armorer was recorded on jailhouse phone calls claiming jurors were assholes. I'm sure that helped win the heart and mind of the Judge.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (N39Ws)

=======


"Honestly? It did. Juror #4, especially, was a pill."
-god of the courtroom

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:31 PM (GBKbO)

102 "Weaponsmith" would be hard to work into a limerick...

Posted by: Random speculation at April 16, 2024 02:31 PM (TZB1e)

103 We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Baldwin would likely present himself to a jury as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.

Posted by: The Regime at April 16, 2024 02:31 PM (bsHHO)

104 92 Noticing the crew of this film, why did Alec Baldwin have so many seemingly unqualified young girls working on his set?

Well, it isn't going to suck itself
Posted by: Here




Dude, did you see the armored and the others?

Fugly

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:31 PM (RjBju)

105 “Anti-intellectualism?”

That’s just a fancy way of calling them stupid for rejecting what the woke intellectuals preach on campus.

STFU, Katie

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2024 02:31 PM (Hkcdp)

106 Hubbymayhem didn't recognize him.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (4XwPj)
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Forty years will do that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:31 PM (Be/+i)

107 The order goes:
1. Rube
2. Party member/ally
3. Politician/high-level Party man
4. Celebrity (unless you walk off the reservation, then subtract positions)
5. Upper-level ruling class


6. Epstein Island Visitor

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (4HcMG)

108 We recently rewatched Beetljuice. Alex Baldwin looked like a completely different person. Hubbymayhem didn't recognize him.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)


My wife thought he was hot in that movie.

I was too busy looking at Winona.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (9yWhg)

109 AB was handling guns quite a bit in Hunt for Red October. Good thing he didn't somehow shoot Sean Connery.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024
*
I thought that was a different Baldwin in that movie.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024


***
No, that was him. Thirty years ago he was very much a leading man type. I hate to say it, but his performance as Jack Ryan in HfRO made me think he might be a convincing Napoleon Solo in a Man From U.N.C.L.E. film.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (J2vNu)

110
But...he didn't follow the script. He threatened someone just because he's an asshole then pointed a gun at that person and pulled the trigger.
Posted by: 18-1 at April

According to him, he was asked to point the gun at her for a particular camera shot - to see if it would play better than how the script was written. That “down the barrel” shot isn’t unusual. What is, however, is that blanks were mixed with live ammo, and Alec had his big fat finger on the trigger, whether he says he did or not (even if he checked first, would he have known this was live versus a blank? I don’t even know. I would hope so). Do I think he pulled it on purpose? No. I think he is dumb and was careless on a lot of levels in this case and many others on that set. In this case, the consequences were horrific.

Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (ZdaMQ)

111 Legit question: Has anyone ever explained why there were live rounds present on the set?

Seems incredibly dumb to me.

Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (xsrxA)

112 Katie doesn't know an intellectual from a butt plug.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (pohLc)

113 OT: Apparently Katie Couric is flapping her cocksucker about "anti-intellectualism" being the driving force in the MAGA movement. Evidently, in this conception of the political landscape, Katie Couric is an "intellectual."
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (ssz2a)
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In what sense does she mean her accusation?

If she means it in the adjective sense - as in, "he is intellectual" - with synonyms like "erudite" or "smart" or "intelligent" - then no, not at all.

If she means it in the noun sense - as in, "he is an intellectual" - then yes, absolutely. I have no use for intellectuals. So-called "intellectuals" - especially the self-described variety - have been a corrosive force on civilization for centuries and have a very strong track record of balls-to-the-wall insanity and personal immorality that has left the wreckage of civilizations in their wakes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (HnUIn)

114 105 “Anti-intellectualism?”

That’s just a fancy way of calling them stupid for rejecting what the woke intellectuals preach on campus.

STFU, Katie
Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2024 02:31 PM (Hkcdp)

========

Intellectuals believe their betters without question.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (GBKbO)

115 The armorer was recorded on jailhouse phone calls claiming jurors were assholes. I'm sure that helped win the heart and mind of the Judge.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (N39Ws)



Yeah, sweetie, you aren't anywhere near high enough in the hollywood food chain to get away with that........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (vf0Uk)

116 Snipes was sentenced to three fucking years in prison. Twice what the armorer got and almost certainly more than what Baldwin will get for killing a woman. And Snipes did almost all the time: he served 28 months.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (iFTx/)
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They at least let him skate on all those unsolved homicides involving "vampires."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (7fElN)

117 Baldwin has already bought off the producers husband bigly.

Story was $10mm

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (RjBju)

118 I thought that was a different Baldwin in that movie.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:28 PM (vf0Uk)

Nope. Alec. Just far less puffy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (xPJvm)

119 Hunter is also accused of tax evasion, so there's different levels of the 2nd city justice system.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (vf0Uk)


Snipes... Biden... Snipes... Biden...

I think I have an idea why there is a differential in these two cases. Racism!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (nR2nR)

120 Noticing the crew of this film, why did Alec Baldwin have so many seemingly unqualified young girls working on his set?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (73voq)

Money. It was a low-budget production. Cheap where you have to be cheap. The crew was complaining about their accommodations which were a located a fair distance from the filming locations.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (+YRf1)

121 My wife thought he was hot in that movie.

I was too busy looking at Winona.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

No love for Geena?

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (CIS44)

122 113 If she means it in the noun sense - as in, "he is an intellectual" - then yes, absolutely. I have no use for intellectuals. So-called "intellectuals" - especially the self-described variety - have been a corrosive force on civilization for centuries and have a very strong track record of balls-to-the-wall insanity and personal immorality that has left the wreckage of civilizations in their wakes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (HnUIn)

=======

I've been hearing that Republicans are dumb rubes for decades now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

123 Legit question: Has anyone ever explained why there were live rounds present on the set?

Seems incredibly dumb to me.
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (xsrxA)



The only thing I've heard is they took the guns to the range the day before and for some reason, didn't empty the chamber afterwards.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (vf0Uk)

124 6. Epstein Island Visitor
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (4HcMG)
++++
See #5.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (HnUIn)

125 AB was handling guns quite a bit in Hunt for Red October. Good thing he didn't somehow shoot Sean Connery.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
*********
That was not a Baldwin production so the gun prop guy probably was competent.

Posted by: Cosda at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (sPNpp)

126 Alec's faux Spanish wife "how you say don't soap drop"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (nYX8q)

127 It doesn't sound like the Prosecution threw 57 varieties of charges at her, unlike what's in vogue for a Republican defendant. Three cheers for normalcy.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at April 16, 2024 02:34 PM (RK5mk)

128 I don't think less of Snipes for going to prison for tax evasion. He didn't bitch or whine about it, just did his time and moved on.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2024 02:34 PM (pohLc)

129 Legit question: Has anyone ever explained why there were live rounds present on the set?

Seems incredibly dumb to me.
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (xsrxA)
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From what I vaguely recall - so take it with a heap of salt - they went to the range sometime before the film shoot and they used the movie weapons. Someone left a round in one of them and the armorer didn't clear the weapon.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:34 PM (HnUIn)

130 Legit question: Has anyone ever explained why there were live rounds present on the set?

Seems incredibly dumb to me.
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (xsrxA)
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Stupidity and carelessness. The crew were using the actual on-set guns for target practice during their downtime.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:34 PM (Be/+i)

131 >>>Noticing the crew of this film, why did Alec Baldwin have so many seemingly unqualified young girls working on his set?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 16, 2024 02:29 PM (73voq)

=====

Remember a lot of the crew walked out the day before, or something like that.

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 16, 2024 02:34 PM (j13c+)

132 123 The only thing I've heard is they took the guns to the range the day before and for some reason, didn't empty the chamber afterwards.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (vf0Uk)

=======

I seem to remember that it was essentially just target practice out back. There was no actual range.

They were taking pot shots in between takes, sort of thing.

And Baldwin, as producer and star, arguably the most powerful person on set, didn't stop it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

133 Legit question: Has anyone ever explained why there were live rounds present on the set?

Seems incredibly dumb to me.
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (xsrxA)

Not that I have heard

Posted by: MAC V SOG at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (P4Pk9)

134 Afternoon.

Whatever you do don't read the comments at Deadline. Except for one rando assistant director they absolve everyone else of blame. It's a lot of, "But you don't work in the industry, you don't know, nyerrrrrrrrreeeehhhhh!!!!!" Just so childish. Just like little Ms. Gutierrez there.

And those are the comments the moderators want you to read.

Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (S+FaU)

135 96 The armorer was recorded on jailhouse phone calls claiming jurors were assholes. I'm sure that helped win the heart and mind of the Judge.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 16, 2024 02:30 PM (N39Ws)
__________________

How $%^&*%$# stupid do you have to be not to realize that every jail records jailhouse phone calls?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (f871o)

136 Noticing the crew of this film, why did Alec Baldwin have so many seemingly unqualified young girls working on his set?

Well, it isn't going to suck itself
Posted by: Here


Dude, did you see the armored and the others?

Fugly
Posted by: N


Seriously? We're stuck out here in the desert for a month. It's either her or Johnny.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (/SITW)

137 No love for Geena?
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (CIS44)
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Mmmm...prime Geena Davis...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (Be/+i)

138 Do you listen to me or do you check it?
If you check it, it's because you don't trust me.
(As you shouldn't)
If you don't check it and you believe me, you are a dumb ass.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:26 PM (/SITW)


Crap. Baldwin is going to plead stupid, isn't he.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (nR2nR)

139 Apparently Katie Couric is flapping her cocksucker about "anti-intellectualism" being the driving force in the MAGA movement. Evidently, in this conception of the political landscape, Katie Couric is an "intellectual."
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 16, 2024 02:24 PM (ssz2a)

From what hole did Katie crawl out of to tell us how dumb she is? It's over Katie, your 15 minutes, leave.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (+YRf1)

140 65. OT: Apparently Katie Couric is flapping her cocksucker about "anti-intellectualism" being the driving force in the MAGA movement. Evidently, in this conception of the political landscape, Katie Couric is an "intellectual." - Alec Leamas

I believe the last time I saw Katie Couric it was what you might call an "inside view" - they were pushing a camera up her a$$ (I think whatever the program was, the procedure was to raise awareness of colon cancer; if I'm not mistaken, her sister died from that malady). I only watched a few seconds of that, having accidentally stumbled across it while I was channel surfing; I'm pretty sure, though, that I did catch a glimpse of her head in there.

Posted by: Paco at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (njExo)

141 Legit question: Has anyone ever explained why there were live rounds present on the set?

Seems incredibly dumb to me.
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (xsrxA)

Yes. Those weren't prop guns. They're real guns.
So during down time they'd load them up and shoot up the desert. Typical gun fun.
So it really was up to the armorer to make damn sure after these little excursions that every single gun was emptied, the gun was tagged as emptied, and then set aside to be loaded with blanks or not for the next scenes needing them.
She did not.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at April 16, 2024 02:36 PM (FCbAQ)

142 Baldwins dad was a firearm instructor in a hs

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:36 PM (RjBju)

143 Alec's faux Spanish wife "how you say don't soap drop"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (nYX8q)


For some reason I hear that in the voice of Charo. Try adding a 'coochie coochie' to the end of it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 16, 2024 02:36 PM (+myjY)

144
They were taking pot shots in between takes, sort of thing.

And Baldwin, as producer and star, arguably the most powerful person on set, didn't stop it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)



Even better.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:36 PM (vf0Uk)

145 So...accounting.

Any good calculators anyone can recommend?

Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 02:36 PM (S+FaU)

146 Crap. Baldwin is going to plead stupid, isn't he.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (nR2nR)
++++
I doubt it.

That would require honesty.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:36 PM (HnUIn)

147 We recently rewatched Beetljuice. Alex Baldwin looked like a completely different person. Hubbymayhem didn't recognize him.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)


***
Beetlejuice came out the same summer as Ghostbusters, I think, 1984. You mean Baldwin has been in the biz for forty years???

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:36 PM (J2vNu)

148 Snipes was sentenced to three fucking years in prison. Twice what the armorer got and almost certainly more than what Baldwin will get for killing a woman. And Snipes did almost all the time: he served 28 months.

Shows you that you can't deprive forced tribute to the Empire, but feel free to do whatever you want to their livestock.

You protect that which is most important to you.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 16, 2024 02:36 PM (4HcMG)

149 I was too busy looking at Winona.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

No love for Geena?
Posted by: BruceWayne

There's always been something weird about Geena to me. Can't explain it.

Plus, Winona did a really good job playing a weird/eccentric girl. While still looking hot.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:36 PM (9yWhg)

150 Legit question: Has anyone ever explained why there were live rounds present on the set?

Seems incredibly dumb to me.
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (xsrxA)

Not that I have heard
Posted by: MAC V SOG


They would target shoot out in the desert in their off times.

What no one has explained to me is why movie guns accept live ammo.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:37 PM (/SITW)

151
Seriously? We're stuck out here in the desert for a month. It's either her or Johnny.
Posted by: rickb223



I'd would wait

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:37 PM (RjBju)

152 99 Noticing the crew of this film, why did Alec Baldwin have so many seemingly unqualified young girls working on his set?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

Because he was bankrolling this film himself. So he went cheap with friends’ offspring, th owe just starting out and willing to take anything to break into the business, etc. HG is the daughter of a very well known, and qualified, armorer. He asked Alec to give her a chance. Her instagram influencer career wasn’t panning out and dad told her you need a jobby job. She knew her way around a weapon. But I don’t think she really wanted to actually work and preferred attention to her versus attention to detail.

Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 02:37 PM (ZdaMQ)

153 Does anyone remember me????

Posted by: Col. Jeff Cooper at April 16, 2024 02:38 PM (PiwSw)

154 Alec was good in "The Shadow".

Well, not really.

He is an asshole.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 16, 2024 02:38 PM (cDEsv)

155 Just sayin', a reminder to all of us, only point a gun at something you are willing to destroy.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at April 16, 2024 02:38 PM (RK5mk)

156 Alec was good in "The Shadow".

Well, not really.

He is an asshole.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 16, 2024 02:38 PM (cDEsv)



It's been my contention, with no evidence whatsoever, mind you, that whomever you see on the screen is 85% or higher who the person actually is in real life.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:39 PM (vf0Uk)

157 Baldwin is really good at playing an asshole, because he doesn't have to act.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2024 02:39 PM (pohLc)

158 So played my first nine holes this morning. Now I'm on my couch digesting Aleve. Beautiful day though

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024 02:39 PM (nYX8q)

159 So the obvious question -- when do we get to see the finished version of Rust? Or is going to be shelved like the Jerry Lewis Concentration Camp Klown movie? Or the Twilight Zone scene where Vic Morrow was killed?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 16, 2024 02:40 PM (73voq)

160 Ya'll are going to make me rewatch Beetlejuice.

What a great movie.

Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 02:40 PM (S+FaU)

161
No love for Geena?
Posted by: BruceWayne



It's quite possible the only time I found her remotely hot was in "Earth Girls are Easy."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:40 PM (vf0Uk)

162 So played my first nine holes this morning. Now I'm on my couch digesting Aleve. Beautiful day though
Posted by: Smell the Glove


How much did Diogenes win off you?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:40 PM (9yWhg)

163 Weaponsmith? Nah, walk this way

LETS DANCE!

https://tinyurl.com/5hy57n7y

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at April 16, 2024 02:40 PM (X4yCj)

164 How $%^&*%$# stupid do you have to be not to realize that every jail records jailhouse phone calls?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Hollywood stupid?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2024 02:41 PM (FVME7)

165 90 I thought that was a different Baldwin in that movie.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:28 PM (vf0Uk)
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He was a lot thinner and younger back then...


Back injury caught up to him. He went down in a chopper somewhere in the Med

Posted by: Admiral Painter at April 16, 2024 02:41 PM (og5mY)

166 6. Epstein Island Visitor
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 16, 2024 02:32 PM (4HcMG)
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See #5.


Touché

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 16, 2024 02:41 PM (4HcMG)

167 Because he was bankrolling this film himself. So he went cheap with friends’ offspring, th owe just starting out and willing to take anything to break into the business, etc. HG is the daughter of a very well known, and qualified, armorer. He asked Alec to give her a chance. Her instagram influencer career wasn’t panning out and dad told her you need a jobby job. She knew her way around a weapon. But I don’t think she really wanted to actually work and preferred attention to her versus attention to detail.
Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 02:37 PM (ZdaMQ)




i.e. "Hey Alec....My lazy ass mooch offspring needs to get off her ass and earn something for once. While she's there, maybe you can do me a favor and take care of her, cool?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:41 PM (vf0Uk)

168 How $%^&*%$# stupid do you have to be not to realize that every jail records jailhouse phone calls?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Hollywood stupid?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2024 02:41 PM (FVME7)
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That kind of stupidity should automatically tack on another 6 months or so to her sentence.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:41 PM (7fElN)

169 What no one has explained to me is why movie guns accept live ammo.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:37 PM (/SITW)
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Because they pretty much have to in order to be realistic.

I suppose one could build a replica of an old Colt Single Action that only accepts blanks, but it would be expensive to make it look right, and you'd have to manufacture one of these for every kind of weapon used in any movie. It's much more cost-effective to use real guns and leave them in the hands of a competent film armorer.

One part of this equation was sadly missing on the Rust set.

Posted by: ballistic at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (oqH4h)

170 Oh, no, wait, Beetlejuice is from '88. But AB was working in TV as far back as 1980, when he was about 22. My gosh.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (J2vNu)

171 I Dig a Pygmy by Charles Hawtrey and the Deaf Aids
Phase one, in which Doris gets her oats

Posted by: SMOD at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (RHGPo)

172 I've watched a number of The First 48 episodes where some of the perps involved in a murder got not much more time and some less.

Posted by: polynikes at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (TDRQO)

173 No love for Geena?
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 02:33 PM (CIS44)


With that jaw? I'd be afraid she'd bite something off.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (nR2nR)

174 Crap. Baldwin is going to plead stupid, isn't he.

I think he can rely on prima facie evidence to support that plea.

Posted by: Paco at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (njExo)

175 161
No love for Geena?
Posted by: BruceWayne


It's quite possible the only time I found her remotely hot was in "Earth Girls are Easy."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:40 PM (vf0Uk)
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Long Kiss Goodnight has entered the chat

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (iFTx/)

176 So played my first nine holes this morning. Now I'm on my couch digesting Aleve. Beautiful day though
Posted by: S



Why is everything always about sex with you women?

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (RjBju)

177 I would guess that most actors who are successful are arrogant assholes. Like it for not Baldwin has been successful.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 16, 2024 02:43 PM (4XwPj)

178
Long Kiss Goodnight has entered the chat
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (iFTx/)



I should clarify.....I don't watch very many movies......so me saying I've never seen nor heard of that shouldn't surprise anyone.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:43 PM (vf0Uk)

179 @162 zip, just me and my clubs. Hit the driver beautifully, stunk at everything else

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (nYX8q)

180 (* Okay, she has RBF, and she could lose a few pounds. But I was startled to see she was pretty anyway.)

Did you see the videos of her initial police interview? Yeah, her lawyers really cleaned her up for the trial. Lost some tonnage, lost some purple hair, lost some piercings, got her some decent makeup and hair do.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (/y8xj)

181 177 I would guess that most actors who are successful are arrogant assholes. Like it for not Baldwin has been successful.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 16, 2024 02:43 PM (4XwPj)

This is true, but there are actors who are excellent people too.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (pohLc)

182 I hate those camera angles where you're looking down the barrel of a gun. To me they are all gratuitous.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (MeG8a)

183 169 What no one has explained to me is why movie guns accept live ammo.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:37 PM (/SITW)
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Because they pretty much have to in order to be realistic.

I suppose one could build a replica of an old Colt Single Action that only accepts blanks, but it would be expensive to make it look right, and you'd have to manufacture one of these for every kind of weapon used in any movie. It's much more cost-effective to use real guns and leave them in the hands of a competent film armorer.

One part of this equation was sadly missing on the Rust set.
Posted by: ballistic at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (oqH4h)
_________

It's also the sound and muzzle blasts. Hard to replicate with CGI. So they're firing real guns with real ammo (albeit blanks) on set.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (iFTx/)

184 Oh, no, wait, Beetlejuice is from '88. But AB was working in TV as far back as 1980, when he was about 22. My gosh.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (J2vNu)

=====

I think the first thing I saw him in was She's Having a Baby.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (DRSnL)

185 Hit the driver beautifully, stunk at everything else
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (nYX8q)



Drive for show, putt for dough.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (vf0Uk)

186 Baldwin is a dick but nobody deserves his wife

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (RjBju)

187 It's been my contention, with no evidence whatsoever, mind you, that whomever you see on the screen is 85% or higher who the person actually is in real life.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:39 PM (vf0Uk)

And screenwriters write with a particular actor in mind, or at least a type.
"Get me a Jim Carrey type"
So yeah, once you've made your bones in Hollywood you can be yourself on screen.
Or worse, once you're typecast as a character you don't like, that's all you get to do for eternity.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (FCbAQ)

188
How comforting it must have been that deadly weapon management in the set was in the hands of a tattooed, green-haired, irritable, entitled, lazy nepo baby.

Alec Baldwin is basically her, without the green hair.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (dtlw7)

189 Long Kiss Goodnight has entered the chat
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 02:42 PM (iFTx/)

I should clarify.....I don't watch very many movies......so me saying I've never seen nor heard of that shouldn't surprise anyone.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:43 PM (vf0Uk)
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Then I guess you can be forgiven for not watching the cinematic masterpiece known as Cutthroat Island.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (7fElN)

190 Why not a simple requirement that all prop guns are test fired immediately before giving them to an actor.

Posted by: polynikes at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (TDRQO)

191 163 Weaponsmith? Nah, walk this way

LETS DANCE!

https://tinyurl.com/5hy57n7y

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at April

I swear to goodness, my Pavlovian response every time I read this is to get up and do it. Dance teachers round the world use these words and the inflection of them indicate whether they have been happy with what you have done, or wonder what it was you just tried to pass off as a jete and are asking you to dance, not clomp around.

Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (ZdaMQ)

192 This golf blonde hasn't quite finished the back 9 yet, but she's almost done and looking forward to the clubhouse:
http://tiny.cc/7tqsxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (HnUIn)

193 This is true, but there are actors who are excellent people too.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (pohLc)
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I understand that Keanu Reeves is a really nice guy.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (Be/+i)

194 ---
Then I guess you can be forgiven for not watching the cinematic masterpiece known as Cutthroat Island.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (7fElN)



I DID see "I Spit on Your Grave" and a couple of the "Faces of Death" movies......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (vf0Uk)

195 Baldwin was good in the Hunt for Red October. Then his inner asshole took over. Not bad in The Departed

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (nYX8q)

196 This is true, but there are actors who are excellent people too.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (pohLc)
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**Keanu Reaves has entered the chat**

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (7fElN)

197 Why not a simple requirement that all prop guns are test fired immediately before giving them to an actor.
Posted by: polynikes

preferably in their direction.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (CIS44)

198 Is there any kind of formal licensing/inspection regime for armorers? Seems like there outta be.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (9yWhg)

199 I DID see "I Spit on Your Grave" and a couple of the "Faces of Death" movies......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

remake or original of I spit on your grave?

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (CIS44)

200 How $%^&*%$# stupid do you have to be not to realize that every jail records jailhouse phone calls?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

A female deputy I know was working a drug case with a husband and wife locked up for meth. Wifey got out first and her husband would call from jail and tell her where the drugs were, where the guns were and where the laptop was of him and her and the whole family of 3 kids having inappropriate sexual relations on video. Nasty stuff.

He got 9 consecutive life sentences and wifey got 40 years.

All from jail house calls which allowed for warrants to search the trailer.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (cDEsv)

201 Cutthroat Island.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (7fElN)

I saw it on the weekend it came out.

Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (S+FaU)

202 I understand that Keanu Reeves is a really nice guy.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (Be/+i)



Ever seen him play an Baldwinesque obnoxious asshole in a movie?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (vf0Uk)

203 183 It's also the sound and muzzle blasts. Hard to replicate with CGI. So they're firing real guns with real ammo (albeit blanks) on set.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (iFTx/)

=======

During the sound mixing of Heat, Michael Mann looked at his sound guy during his first draft of the downtown gun fight.

He had replaced all of the on set sound effects with typical bangs from guns.

"That's not at all what it sounded like," Mann said. The audio in the final film is the original audio from the set.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

204 Baldwin: "Obviously, I take full responsibility for my actions and extend my sympathy to the survivors and to others who may have been involved."

Da Judge: "Thank you, Mr. Baldwin. A human life was lost and you bear partial responsibility for this. Acceptance of responsibility is crucial to redemption. I take you at your word and hereby sentence you to 50 hours of community service. I direct your attorney to arrange for you to be put on the same crew with Meredith of Gray's Anatomy, who is also serving Community Service and is making a difference by acknowledgement and acceptance of her role."

Gavel: BANG!

Posted by: RM at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (urbih)

205 195 Baldwin was good in the Hunt for Red October. Then his inner asshole took over. Not bad in The Departed
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (nYX8q)

========

Mark Wahlberg took none of his shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:47 PM (GBKbO)

206 Cutthroat Island.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (7fElN)

I saw it on the weekend it came out.
Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (S+FaU)
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To my eternal shame, I believe I did, too...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:47 PM (7fElN)

207 Does anyone remember me????
Posted by: Col. Jeff Cooper


Well, you were an old white guy so obviously nothing you had to say is valid any more. And now that I think about it, Eddie Eagle is pretty danged white too.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 16, 2024 02:47 PM (/y8xj)

208 And screenwriters write with a particular actor in mind, or at least a type.
"Get me a Jim Carrey type"

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (FCbAQ)

=====

Supposedly, for Time Bandits, for the King Agamemnon scene, Terry Gilliam wrote, "someone that looks exactly like Sean Connery, but cheaper."

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 16, 2024 02:47 PM (DRSnL)

209 Armorer is a peasant so can het thrown in the clink

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 16, 2024 02:47 PM (EGSGm)

210
remake or original of I spit on your grave?
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (CIS44)



Being as I'm in my 29's, I would have to guess the original as I didn't even know there was another version.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:47 PM (vf0Uk)

211 Geena Davis is all elbows.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:47 PM (GBKbO)

212 All from jail house calls which allowed for warrants to search the trailer.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (cDEsv)
++++
And as far as I know, they tell you that they're recording and monitoring everything, and tell you so in plain language. I've never been arrested, thankfully, but I have gotten calls *from* people in jail and every time, there is a long disclaimer before the call is connected.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:48 PM (HnUIn)

213 And screenwriters write with a particular actor in mind, or at least a type.
"Get me a Jim Carrey type"
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Bonnie Bedelia mocked the whole progression long, long ago:

"Who's Bonnie Bedelia?"

"Get me Bonnie Bedelia!"

"I want a Bonnie Bedelia *type*."

"I want a *young* Bonnie Bedelia type."

"Who's Bonnie Bedelia?"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:48 PM (Be/+i)

214 So played my first nine holes this morning. Now I'm on my couch digesting Aleve. Beautiful day though
Posted by: Smell the Glove


Phrasing, dude. Serious, serious phrasing …

Posted by: Adriane the Unworthy Critic . . . at April 16, 2024 02:48 PM (4Winp)

215 165
Back injury caught up to him. He went down in a chopper somewhere in the Med


hasn't everyone?

Posted by: kneepads harris at April 16, 2024 02:48 PM (zGIV+)

216 http://tiny.cc/7tqsxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (HnUIn)

I have this sudden urge to take up golf.

Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 02:48 PM (S+FaU)

217 I suppose one could build a replica of an old Colt Single Action that only accepts blanks, but it would be expensive to make it look right, and you'd have to manufacture one of these for every kind of weapon used in any movie. It's much more cost-effective to use real guns and leave them in the hands of a competent film armorer.

One part of this equation was sadly missing on the Rust set.
Posted by: ballistic


You don't "make" anything.
You take a Colt replica, a Ruger Vaquero, or a half dozen other makers and you slug (fill) the barrels.
You crimp the ends of the ammo so the powder doesn't fall out. Down along the underside of the barrel before where the slugging starts, you vent it so gasses can escape.
Flames and smoke are added post production.

Semi autos NEED a barrel obstruction to even make a blank cycle the slide.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:48 PM (/SITW)

218 208 Supposedly, for Time Bandits, for the King Agamemnon scene, Terry Gilliam wrote, "someone that looks exactly like Sean Connery, but cheaper."
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 16, 2024 02:47 PM (DRSnL)

=======

Post Bond, Connery just wanted to work!

Hence, Zardoz

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:48 PM (GBKbO)

219 Baldwin was good in the Hunt for Red October. Then his inner asshole took over. Not bad in The Departed
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024

***
HfRO
was in 1990. By the time he played the sociopathic doctor in Malice w/ Nicole Kidman (good thriller, by the way) in '93, he really had that IA thing down.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:48 PM (J2vNu)

220 "You look just like that Hollywood actor, Ralph Bellamy."
-Cary Grant to Ralph Bellamy in His Girl Friday

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (GBKbO)

221 AB should be given 20 years for 2nd degree murder and 50 years for abject dumbassery. He is a POS and should never breathe free air again. Fuck him with a rusty roll of barbed wire.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (JNTt1)

222 Ever seen him play an Baldwinesque obnoxious asshole in a movie?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Much Ado About Nothing

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (aZFbT)

223 Ever seen him play an Baldwinesque obnoxious asshole in a movie?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (vf0Uk)
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Yes. Man of Tai Chi.

He was the bad guy, an obnoxious asshole who enjoyed tearing down a good man just to watch him suffer.

Probably channeling Alec Baldwin.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (7fElN)

224 This golf blonde hasn't quite finished the back 9 yet, but she's almost done and looking forward to the clubhouse:
http://tiny.cc/7tqsxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (HnUIn)

She's a good golfer. Has YouTube channel, wants to be the next Paige.
She might be.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (FCbAQ)

225 Why don't they sentence Baldwin to go sit in a locked room with a loaded single action revolver. One way or the other, it's going to go off. His chances are better than those of the woman he shot.

Posted by: Paco at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (njExo)

226 By the time he played the sociopathic doctor in Malice w/ Nicole Kidman (good thriller, by the way) in '93, he really had that IA thing down.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Yep. "I AM God."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:50 PM (9yWhg)

227 He's a dick but safety was not his job

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:50 PM (RjBju)

228 Or worse, once you're typecast as a character you don't like, that's all you get to do for eternity.
Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (FCbAQ)


Aaaaargh, I have to play this role AGAIN! If they weren't paying me $5M for six weeks work I'd totally tell them to shove it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:50 PM (nR2nR)

229 192 This golf blonde hasn't quite finished the back 9 yet, but she's almost done and looking forward to the clubhouse:
http://tiny.cc/7tqsxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (HnUIn)
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Grace Charis, if anyone's curious.

Posted by: ballistic at April 16, 2024 02:50 PM (oqH4h)

230 Toss Baldwins ass into a cell full of chimps and loaded revolvers.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2024 02:51 PM (pohLc)

231 This is true, but there are actors who are excellent people too.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Gerald McRaney discusses James Garner. (3 minutes)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhiLvfsa4c&t=11s

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2024 02:51 PM (FVME7)

232 Was Baldwin any good in The Shadow?

Posted by: Paco at April 16, 2024 02:51 PM (njExo)

233 ---
Yes. Man of Tai Chi.

He was the bad guy, an obnoxious asshole who enjoyed tearing down a good man just to watch him suffer.

Probably channeling Alec Baldwin.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (7fElN)



Well, I did say my theory was unresearched, but it's highly likely that he has more of one style of persona in movies than the Baldwin other, which would be more of a reach for him and his abilities.

Again, I did NOT stay in a cheesy, fleabag hotel last night.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:52 PM (vf0Uk)

234 Grace Charis, if anyone's curious.
Posted by: ballistic


Weird face.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:52 PM (9yWhg)

235 **Keanu Reaves has entered the chat**
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM (7fElN)


And he knows how to safely handle a gun. Coincidence?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:52 PM (nR2nR)

236 Grace Charis, if anyone's curious.
Posted by: ballistic at April 16, 2024 02:50 PM (oqH4h)



Thanks. Can't get to shortened url site links from work.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:52 PM (vf0Uk)

237 220 "You look just like that Hollywood actor, Ralph Bellamy."
-Cary Grant to Ralph Bellamy in His Girl Friday

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (GBKbO)

++++
That was a funny line. Great movie.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 16, 2024 02:52 PM (F6UFz)

238 Toss Baldwins ass into a cell full of chimps and loaded revolvers.
Posted by: Xipe Totec


Just the one that gets a full auto AK.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:52 PM (/SITW)

239 Was Baldwin any good in The Shadow?
Posted by: Paco at April 16, 2024 02:51 PM

I rewatched it last year. Yeah, he's not bad.

Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 02:52 PM (S+FaU)

240 Supposedly, for Time Bandits, for the King Agamemnon scene, Terry Gilliam wrote, "someone that looks exactly like Sean Connery, but cheaper."
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 16, 2024


***
I was playing with that Stable Diffusion AI site this morning. (Warning: They only let you generate six images for free.) I asked for "Sean Connery as a Roman centurion," and darned if the result didn't look damned good. More of a Roman general than a lower officer, but damned good.

I ran one with "Ed Asner as a Roman centurion," and again it was very effective.

The engine can't seem to understand what a "centaur" is, though; it kept giving me horses or a horse with human rider.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:53 PM (J2vNu)

241 there are actors who are excellent people too.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Ger




They're acting

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:53 PM (RjBju)

242 Weird face.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:52 PM (9yWhg)
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...face?

Posted by: ballistic at April 16, 2024 02:53 PM (oqH4h)

243 I'll be happy to play nine holes or more with Mannix girl. I'd have to get off my couch though

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024 02:53 PM (nYX8q)

244 Again, I did NOT stay in a cheesy, fleabag hotel last night.
Posted by: Sponge


That's the second time you've said that on this thread. Which leads me to believe that you did, in fact, stay in a cheesy, fleabag hotel last night.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:54 PM (9yWhg)

245 Baldwin's hokey Boston accent completely ruined the Departed for me.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 16, 2024 02:54 PM (wBaIH)

246 I was playing with that Stable Diffusion AI site this morning. (Warning: They only let you generate six images for free.) I asked for "Sean Connery as a Roman centurion," and darned if the result didn't look damned good. More of a Roman general than a lower officer, but damned good.

I ran one with "Ed Asner as a Roman centurion," and again it was very effective.

The engine can't seem to understand what a "centaur" is, though; it kept giving me horses or a horse with human rider.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


John Wayne as Ghengis Khan. Oh wait. That's already been done.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:54 PM (/SITW)

247 That's the second time you've said that on this thread. Which leads me to believe that you did, in fact, stay in a cheesy, fleabag hotel last night.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:54 PM (9yWhg)



You can't say that. You've never been to my house.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:55 PM (vf0Uk)

248 ----------
Bonnie Bedelia mocked the whole progression long, long ago:
"Who's Bonnie Bedelia?"
"Get me Bonnie Bedelia!"
"I want a Bonnie Bedelia *type*."
"I want a *young* Bonnie Bedelia type."
"Who's Bonnie Bedelia?"
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:48 PM (Be/+i)

That's good, I like it.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at April 16, 2024 02:55 PM (FCbAQ)

249 Crap. Baldwin is going to plead stupid, isn't he.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:35 PM (nR2nR)

He already did. He used 1911s and Berettas in a few movies, and should not play dumb.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2024 02:55 PM (cf/0E)

250 John Wayne as Ghengis Khan. Oh wait. That's already been done.
Posted by: rickb223


According to IMDB, John Wayne was once in an episode of Maude. I just can't picture that at all.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:56 PM (9yWhg)

251 All this judgement does is convince me that Baldwin will get off scot-free. The guilty party, the armorer, has been identified and severely punished. They'll rule that all the fault belongs with the armorer. Baldwin thought he was firing harmless blanks, and wouldn't have fired the gun had he known it was loaded.

Posted by: topper at April 16, 2024 02:56 PM (mxEar)

252 Geena Davis is all elbows.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:47 PM (GBKbO)


She has other parts.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/318348267386758504/

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 16, 2024 02:57 PM (nR2nR)

253 The DOJ said in its response to the high court that while Idaho's law makes it a felony for a doctor to terminate a pregnancy unless doing so is "necessary" to prevent the patient's "death," that exception is "narrower" than EMTALA, which by its terms "protects patients not only from imminent death but also from emergencies that seriously threaten their health."

Emergency physicians never make emergency abortion clinic transfers.
The only possible scenario i can imagine where one would have to debate between life of mom or abortion is pre-eclampsia that develops before 24 weeks gestation. And that is exceptionally rare.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2024 02:57 PM (PI/SC)

254 She should have quit the production as the unsafe conditions grew from poor manangement of the production operations. Baldwin failed as the producer for his mismanagement of the safety for the crew, lack of support for safe practices, and failed personally as the individual who actually committed manslaughter. He should get ten times what the armorer got for a sentence.

Posted by: jj at April 16, 2024 02:57 PM (WN4MV)

255 222 Ever seen him play an Baldwinesque obnoxious asshole in a movie?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Much Ado About Nothing
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (aZFbT)

Waaaall....that wasn't exactly his strongest performance evah.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 16, 2024 02:57 PM (T+Iwg)

256 This is true, but there are actors who are excellent people too.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
*
Gerald McRaney discusses James Garner. (3 minutes)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhiLvfsa4c&t=11s
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2024


***
Damn!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 02:57 PM (J2vNu)

257 227 He's a dick but safety was not his job
Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02

He was the producer, so it was. He was responsible for everything that happened on set.

Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 02:58 PM (ZdaMQ)

258 Much Ado About Nothing
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (aZFbT)

Waaaall....that wasn't exactly his strongest performance evah.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher

Michael Keaton was hilarious in that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 02:58 PM (9yWhg)

259 The attorney general, while stressing that he was not commenting on the specifics of Hur's analysis, said that based on his own observations while interacting with Biden, he has "complete confidence in the president" when it comes to questions about his mental fitness.
Posted by: gnats local 678

Release the tapes / transcript then. Everything else is just BS and conjecture by a person with something to gain with no medical background

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 16, 2024 02:58 PM (JkCto)

260 He was the producer, so it was. He was responsible for everything that happened on set




Not how movies work

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 02:58 PM (RjBju)

261 "That's not at all what it sounded like," Mann said. The audio in the final film is the original audio from the set.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

M4s have such a particular sound, and especially in a place where the concrete echoes.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2024 02:59 PM (cf/0E)

262 Much Ado About Nothing
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 16, 2024 02:49 PM (aZFbT)

Waaaall....that wasn't exactly his strongest performance evah.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 16, 2024 02:57 PM (T+Iwg)
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Sadly, no.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:59 PM (Be/+i)

263 This is true, but there are actors who are excellent people too.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 16, 2024 02:44 PM (pohLc)
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I understand that Keanu Reeves is a really nice guy.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 02:45 PM

Lots of people (including some friends of mine) say that Bruce Campbell is nice and down-to-earth even when he was at peak fame.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 16, 2024 02:59 PM (fxCK2)

264 "Producer" can mean anything, from barely involved to entirely driving everything.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM (cf/0E)

265 Yep as producer Alec Baldwin had a say in the hiring of the armorer.

Just as he is responsible for pointing a weapon at a human being and pulling the trigger.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM (r9kz/)

266 You don't "make" anything.
You take a Colt replica, a Ruger Vaquero, or a half dozen other makers and you slug (fill) the barrels.
You crimp the ends of the ammo so the powder doesn't fall out. Down along the underside of the barrel before where the slugging starts, you vent it so gasses can escape.
Flames and smoke are added post production.

Semi autos NEED a barrel obstruction to even make a blank cycle the slide.
Posted by: rickb223
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All true. However, some company in Miami sells guns made to fire blanks only that are NOT safe to convert to shoot regular ammunition. Max Armory is the name.

Under the right circumstances, blanks can be as dangerous as live ammo at contact range due to very hot gas being expelled at a very fast velocity plus they usually have wadding at the end to retain the powder in the cartridge.

Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM (z97rz)

267 Side note:

Goddamn that Maine asshole governor is some uggo butch looking lesbo dyke motherfucker

Ive seen malignant tumors that looked healthier

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM (VTu1l)

268 He was the producer, so it was. He was responsible for everything that happened on set.
Posted by: Piper
====
Legally and morally you are correct.

Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:01 PM (z97rz)

269 I asked for "Sean Connery as a Roman centurion," and darned if the result didn't look damned good. More of a Roman general than a lower officer, but damned good.

I ran one with "Ed Asner as a Roman centurion," and again it was very effective.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
John Wayne as Ghengis Khan. Oh wait. That's already been done.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024


***
Don't forget that Asner played a brickload of cops, tough guys, and villains before Mary Tyler Moore's Lou Grant made him ove rinto the "gruff teddy bear" we all knew from our home screens. Playing a tough drill sergeant, which is pretty much what a centurion was, would not have been hard for him.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 03:01 PM (J2vNu)

270 Under the right circumstances, blanks can be as dangerous as live ammo at contact range due to very hot gas being expelled at a very fast velocity plus they usually have wadding at the end to retain the powder in the cartridge.
Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM (z97rz)
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Now you tell me.

Posted by: zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:01 PM (Be/+i)

271 If you are a responsible producer you hire an armorer with decades of experience whom you can trust to han you safe weapons.

If you are a piece of shit producer, you hire that armorers 20 year old daughter who says "Woooo guns!" after wrap for the day and co-mingles live ammo and prop blanks while out drinkin and shootin stuff.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2024 03:02 PM (PI/SC)

272 He was the producer, so it was. He was responsible for everything that happened on set.
Posted by: Piper
====
Legally and morally you are correct.
Posted by: w

Not how movies work

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 03:02 PM (RjBju)

273
Under the right circumstances, blanks can be as dangerous as live ammo at contact range due to very hot gas being expelled at a very fast velocity plus they usually have wadding at the end to retain the powder in the cartridge.
Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM (z97rz)
---

Now you tell me!

Posted by: Zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (FCbAQ)

274 I hope Arec gets shot in prison - with some big dude's love spunk.

That whole production was a shit show.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (ufFY8)

275 He was the producer, so it was. He was responsible for everything that happened on set.
Posted by: Piper
====
Legally and morally you are correct.
Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:01 PM (z97rz)

--------------

But politically incorrect.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (2tn4k)

276 267 Side note:

Goddamn that Maine asshole governor is some uggo butch looking lesbo dyke motherfucker

Ive seen malignant tumors that looked healthier
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM (VTu1l)
______

Incredibly, she's not a clam digger and in fact married a successful businessman

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (iFTx/)

277 Ol' Canoe was kind of a jerk in The Neon Demon. Not nice even.

Posted by: Partially Digested and Regurgitated Eyeball at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (hpb+5)

278 260
N

“The state’s final workplace-safety order states that Rust Movie Productions “did not furnish a place of employment free from hazards in that employees were exposed to being struck by discharged rounds or projectiles when firearms were used on the set of the motion picture production.”

Safety violations are categorized as “serious” — and not “willful-serious,” as initially alleged.

In April 2022, New Mexico’s Occupational Health and Safety Bureau slapped Rust Movie Productions with a maximum $136,793 fine while distributing a scathing narrative of safety failures in violation of standard industry protocols, including testimony that production managers took limited or no action to address two misfires on set before the fatal shooting.”

Alec is Rust Movie Productions. So who is responsible?

Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (ZdaMQ)

279 You know what they call a pretty girl in Maine?

A tourist.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (wBaIH)

280 Now you tell me.
Posted by: zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:01 PM (Be/+i)
----
Now you tell me!
Posted by: Zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (FCbAQ)
++++
This place, man.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 03:04 PM (HnUIn)

281 I like Henry Cavill but I didn't like his accent in Man from Uncle.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2024 03:04 PM (cf/0E)

282 Now you tell me.
Posted by: zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:01 PM (Be/+i)
----
Now you tell me!
Posted by: Zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (FCbAQ)
++++
This place, man.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 03:04 PM (HnUIn)
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Ha!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 03:05 PM (Be/+i)

283 I think this gives them more opportunity to go easy on Baldwin.

I'd be hard pressed to allocute with remorse when most of the fault lies with some other jackass, but they threw the book at her and essentially piled most of the blame on her.

Makes it easier to say Baldwin isn't to blame and it was more the armourers fault. He was an innocent bystander in all of this firing a gun he didn't think was loaded at a person.

Posted by: PoliticalMcguffin at April 16, 2024 03:05 PM (F3n1j)

284 281 I like Henry Cavill but I didn't like his accent in Man from Uncle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2024 03:04 PM (cf/0E)

=====

I got the 4K stream of it for free yesterday. Well, with $5 of digital credits.

I didn't get a digital copy with my Blu-ray I bought a couple of years ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (GBKbO)

285 Under the right circumstances, blanks can be as dangerous as live ammo at contact range due to very hot gas being expelled at a very fast velocity plus they usually have wadding at the end to retain the powder in the cartridge.
Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM

Isn’t that how Brandon Lee died?

Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (ZdaMQ)

286 Joe biden can eat an entire pudding cup without getting any on his chin. Can someone with dementia do that? I think not. Besides ron DeSantis uses his fingers.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (PI/SC)

287 Now you tell me - Brandon Lee

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (nYX8q)

288 "Producer" can mean anything, from barely involved to entirely driving everything.
Posted by: BourbonChicken


To helping to blow up the theater!
-- Max Bialystok

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (9yWhg)

289 Now you tell me.
Posted by: zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:01 PM (Be/+i)

Now you tell me!
Posted by: Zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (FCbAQ)

RUFKM?
I'm not doing the joke stealing comedian thing, I swear!

Posted by: Zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (FCbAQ)

290 I like Henry Cavill but I didn't like his accent in Man from Uncle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2024 03:04 PM (cf/0E)
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I understand that he lobbied to be in "The Witcher" because he loves the game and the lore, but they drove him out by wokifying the hell out of it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (Be/+i)

291 288 "Producer" can mean anything, from barely involved to entirely driving everything.
Posted by: BourbonChicken


To helping to blow up the theater!
-- Max Bialystok
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (9yWhg)

========

"I picked the wrong play, the wrong writer, the wrong director, the wrong actors...Where did I go right?!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (GBKbO)

292 Not how movies work
Posted by: N a
======
That is simple liability law that applies to Whorreywood as it does to a machine shop and its owner and employees.

For civil liability, as producer of the movie, Alec is legally responsible for the acts of his 'agents' including Alec the actor. A wrongful death suit then by the estate of the cinematographer (and other guy that was injure) sue Baldwin in his role as producer. I assume that Baldwin had liability insurance but that can sometimes get sticky over willful misconduct that is a whole nother kettle of fish.

Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (z97rz)

293 273
Under the right circumstances, blanks can be as dangerous as live ammo at contact range due to very hot gas being expelled at a very fast velocity plus they usually have wadding at the end to retain the powder in the cartridge.
Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM (z97rz)
---

Now you tell me!
Posted by: Zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:03 PM (FCbAQ)
__________

"Yea! Mine wasn't a blank but a prior load stuck in the barrel, but yea fuck that."

-- Brandon Lee

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (iFTx/)

294 I understand that he lobbied to be in "The Witcher" because he loves the game and the lore, but they drove him out by wokifying the hell out of it.
Posted by: Captain Obvious,

What he is currently doing trying to bring Warhammer to the screen as well

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (CIS44)

295 Under the right circumstances, blanks can be as dangerous as live ammo at contact range due to very hot gas being expelled at a very fast velocity plus they usually have wadding at the end to retain the powder in the cartridge.
Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM

Isn’t that how Brandon Lee died?
Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (ZdaMQ)

Yep.

Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (S+FaU)

296 283 I think this gives them more opportunity to go easy on Baldwin.

I'd be hard pressed to allocute with remorse when most of the fault lies with some other jackass, but they threw the book at her and essentially piled most of the blame on her.

Makes it easier to say Baldwin isn't to blame and it was more the armourers fault. He was an innocent bystander in all of this firing a gun he didn't think was loaded at a person.
Posted by: PoliticalMcguffin at April 16, 2024 03:05 PM (F3n1j)

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the armorer is being paid under the table to be so unremorseful. Let the court and public get it out of its system.

Posted by: Maybe It's An Op at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (hpb+5)

297
N

“The state’s final workplace-safety order states that Rust Movie Productions “did not furnish a place of employment free from hazards in that employees were exposed to being struck by discharged rounds or projectiles when firearms were used on the set of the motion picture production.”

Safety violations are categorized as “serious” — and not “willful-serious,” as initially alleged.

In April 2022, New Mexico’s Occupational Health and Safety Bureau slapped Rust Movie Productions with a maximum $136,793 fine while distributing a scathing narrative of safety failures in violation of standard industry protocols, including testimony that production managers took limited or no action to address two misfires on set before the fatal shooting.”

Alec is Rust Movie Productions. So who is responsible?



Where does it say rust is his exclusively?

Posted by: N at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (6hAp5)

298 Speaking of Brandon Lee, any new info on The Crow remake?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (r9kz/)

299 To helping to blow up the theater!
-- Max Bialystok
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (9yWhg)

Heil, myself.

Posted by: Zombie gay singing Adolf Hitler at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (ufFY8)

300 290 I like Henry Cavill but I didn't like his accent in Man from Uncle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2024 03:04 PM (cf/0E)
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I understand that he lobbied to be in "The Witcher" because he loves the game and the lore, but they drove him out by wokifying the hell out of it.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (Be/+i)

=======

For some reason, I decided to watch a series of clips of Cavill on Graham Norton earlier today.

Loves The Witcher. Loves Warhammer. Seems extremely down to earth. Even met Russell Crowe when he was a kid playing rugby, a story that Crowe actually told.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (GBKbO)

301 "I picked the wrong play, the wrong writer, the wrong director, the wrong actors...Where did I go right?!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


He effed up by hiring LSD to play Hitler. He's the one who made everyone laugh and made it a hit.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 03:08 PM (9yWhg)

302 It seems the armoress was demonstrably negligent in her duties. As a minimum I would think she should have been a fanatic about 'no live ammo anywhere near the set... '

But she's young and entitled and wasn't taking her responsibilities seriously and so now another young woman is dead.

In other nooz....8 more workdays to retirement....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at April 16, 2024 03:08 PM (JMfQk)

303 To helping to blow up the theater!
-- Max Bialystok
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (9yWhg)
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See, zis is an example of shmartnes, here. I have said zat zis is ze qvick fuse, und zis is ze qvick fuse.

ZE QVICK FUSE!!!!!

Posted by: Franz Liebkind at April 16, 2024 03:09 PM (Be/+i)

304 Isn’t that how Brandon Lee died?
Posted by: Piper
=====
I think in his case there was an actual stuck bullet in the bore from a previous day's shooting. The blank then pushed the bullet out of the bore into Brandon.

I think another actor killed himself goofing around by shooting a blank at contact range against his head.

Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:09 PM (z97rz)

305 250. - According to IMDB, John Wayne was once in an episode of Maude. I just can't picture that at all. - Bulgaroctonus

Saw it! He said something that offended Maude's hypersensitive feminist neurosis, and at first she got mad, and then, after staring at all six-foot-whatever of Wayne for a couple of seconds, she just said, "what the hell, let's dance".

Posted by: Paco at April 16, 2024 03:09 PM (njExo)

306 288 "Producer" can mean anything, from barely involved to entirely driving everything.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

He owned the production company. Was paying for it all. He hired everyone on set. This doesn’t mean he was personally tasked with this role, but it is where the buck stopped. Any final decisions were his. This part isn’t in dispute, even with ol’ Alec himself.

Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 03:09 PM (ZdaMQ)

307 Safety violations are categorized as “serious” — and not “willful-serious,” as initially alleged.

In April 2022, New Mexico’s Occupational Health and Safety Bureau slapped Rust Movie Productions with a maximum $136,793 fine while distributing a scathing narrative of safety failures in violation of standard industry protocols, including testimony that production managers took limited or no action to address two misfires on set before the fatal shooting.”

Alec is Rust Movie Productions.

So who is responsible?
Posted by: Piper


The assistant water boy.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 03:09 PM (/SITW)

308 We don't quote The Producers enough.

Also, I find it frustrating that Mel Brooks has not once spoken about the connection between Gene Wilder's character's name (Leo Bloom) and the main character's name in James Joyce's Ulysses (Leopold Bloom).

There has to be a connection, dammit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

309 295 Under the right circumstances, blanks can be as dangerous as live ammo at contact range due to very hot gas being expelled at a very fast velocity plus they usually have wadding at the end to retain the powder in the cartridge.
Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:00 PM

Isn’t that how Brandon Lee died?
Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 03:06 PM (ZdaMQ)

Yep.
Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (S+FaU)
___________

Brandon Lee was killed when a prior live round was caught in the barrel and then fired out of the gun when a blank was shot. He might have survived but since he was supposed to get shot and fall down in the scene, it took a while for the crew to realize he'd been actually shot.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

310 Next person I kill will be working for me and I'll use a nail gun.
I'll say, had no control on a faulty nail gun and nailed her with 120 nails.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 16, 2024 03:11 PM (J8LnB)

311 I think another actor killed himself goofing around by shooting a blank at contact range against his head.
Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:09 PM (z97rz)

That would be me.

Posted by: Zombie Jon-Erik Hexum at April 16, 2024 03:11 PM (FCbAQ)

312 My primitive understanding of producer was that they are funders/have an equity stake in the movie and get to cum on the ficus.

Posted by: But I Don't Actually Know Shit About It at April 16, 2024 03:11 PM (hpb+5)

313 Speaking of Brandon Lee, any new info on The Crow remake?
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (r9kz/)

Still on track to being a giant piece of shit.

Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 03:11 PM (S+FaU)

314 Don't be stupid
Be a smarty
Come and join
The Moron Party

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 16, 2024 03:12 PM (ufFY8)

315 307. So who is responsible?
Posted by: Piper


The assistant water boy.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 03:09 PM (/SITW)

Trump!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at April 16, 2024 03:12 PM (JMfQk)

316 312 My primitive understanding of producer was that they are funders/have an equity stake in the movie and get to cum on the ficus.
Posted by: But I Don't Actually Know Shit About It at April 16, 2024 03:11 PM (hpb+5)

=======

If a financier walks into a restaurant and demands that they change the decor to meet his current whim, the financier has the power to make it happen.

Same thing on movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 03:12 PM (GBKbO)

317 Now you tell me!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 16, 2024 03:12 PM (N4J81)

318 Speaking of Brandon Lee, any new info on The Crow remake?
Posted by: Anna Puma a

It's got one of the billion Skarsgaard's in it. Ernie Hudson recently said he thinks it shouldnt be made. thats all i got.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 16, 2024 03:12 PM (CIS44)

319
Where does it say rust is his exclusively?
Posted by: N at April 16, 2024

He owned it with Anjul Nigam, but I don’t think Anjul was onset and managing it like Alec. This is from memory, I would need to go back and reread everything.

Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 03:13 PM (ZdaMQ)

320 313 Speaking of Brandon Lee, any new info on The Crow remake?
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (r9kz/)

Still on track to being a giant piece of shit.
Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 03:11 PM (S+FaU)

So, like the original?

Posted by: Apart from the Soundtrack at April 16, 2024 03:13 PM (hpb+5)

321 That would be me.
Posted by: Zombie Jon-Erik Hexum
=======
Well you did win the Darwin prize.

Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:13 PM (z97rz)

322 shot and fall down in the scene, it took a while for the crew to realize he'd been actually shot.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

Extreme Method Acting

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 16, 2024 03:13 PM (ufFY8)

323 I like Henry Cavill but I didn't like his accent in Man from Uncle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2024


***
He was pretty much using Standard American. It was Illya, Armie Hammer, who needed to adopt a very different dialect, Russian.

It's stil strange to me that Standard American is something that an English actor has to "put on." To me it's normal, while the BBC announcer dialect, or other UK dialects, are ones to "put on."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 03:14 PM (J2vNu)

324
gimme back my bullets

Posted by: Eromero at April 16, 2024 03:14 PM (NxC5+)

325 So, like the original?
Posted by: Apart from the Soundtrack at April 16, 2024 03:13 PM (hpb+5)

Shun the heretic!

Posted by: Robert at April 16, 2024 03:14 PM (S+FaU)

326 His hispanic immigrant wife depends on him, and it would be inhumane!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:14 PM (HnUIn)


Hilarity ensues.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM


ISWYDT.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 16, 2024 03:15 PM (Wnv9h)

327 Where does it say rust is his exclusively?
Posted by: N


You aren't finding out by a quick google search.
You are going yo have to deep dive through shell companies & business incorporation records.

Hence the LLC.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 03:15 PM (/SITW)

328 316 312 My primitive understanding of producer was that they are funders/have an equity stake in the movie and get to cum on the ficus.
Posted by: But I Don't Actually Know Shit About It at April 16, 2024 03:11 PM (hpb+5)

=======

If a financier walks into a restaurant and demands that they change the decor to meet his current whim, the financier has the power to make it happen.

Same thing on movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 03:12 PM (GBKbO)
__________

All depends on the circumstances of the financing and/or the deal. Many "producers" are themselves hired by the actual investors. In Rust, Baldwin was basically all of that himself. The entire production was him. He hired everyone else.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 03:15 PM (iFTx/)

329 nood fart bragg

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 16, 2024 03:15 PM (vtyCZ)

330 To me it's normal,

Well, you're American, so...

At least I am assuming such, like a bastard culture-appropriator.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 16, 2024 03:15 PM (ufFY8)

331
Hilarity ensues.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 02:17 PM

ISWYDT.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 16, 2024 03:15 PM (Wnv9h)



You're the only one and it took an hour.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 16, 2024 03:15 PM (vf0Uk)

332 nood

Bragg

Posted by: SturmToddler at April 16, 2024 03:15 PM (nXhwP)

333 That would be me.
Posted by: Zombie Jon-Erik Hexum
=======
Well you did win the Darwin prize.
Posted by: whig at April 16, 2024 03:13 PM (z97rz)

That dude was really good looking.
Coulda been a big star.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 16, 2024 03:16 PM (FCbAQ)

334 She deserves to be in prison. She's a fuckup.

She's also a nepot and will probably find another gig in Hollywood once she's out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)


She obviously had no idea on how to be a set armorer; apparently it isn't something that you learn by osmosis. That the hazards of letting the cast and crew get in the habit of putting live ammo in the "prop" firearm never occurred to her, speaks volumes.

While she may work in Hollywood again, I'm doubtful that she will ever be allowed to touch a firearm as a set armorer: she's a proven risk.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 16, 2024 03:16 PM (pJWtt)

335 For some reason, I decided to watch a series of clips of Cavill on Graham Norton earlier today.

Loves The Witcher. Loves Warhammer. Seems extremely down to earth. Even met Russell Crowe when he was a kid playing rugby, a story that Crowe actually told.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 03:07 PM (GBKbO)

I saw that interview - it was great. Crowe is an excellent storyteller. Costner is as well - check out his Dances With Wolves story in Norton's show, if you haven't yet.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 16, 2024 03:17 PM (hM6xV)

336 328 All depends on the circumstances of the financing and/or the deal. Many "producers" are themselves hired by the actual investors. In Rust, Baldwin was basically all of that himself. The entire production was him. He hired everyone else.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 16, 2024 03:15 PM (iFTx/)

=======

Yeah, I oversimplified, but essentially, if you command enough of the budget yourself, you can make things happen.

The dentist who donated $10,000 on a budget of $2 million? He gets no say.

The Hollywood star putting up $1 million out of $2 million (guess)? He gets a say.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 16, 2024 03:17 PM (GBKbO)

337 His hispanic immigrant wife depends on him, and it would be inhumane!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 16, 2024 02:14 PM

She immigrated all the way from Boston and had to change her name and everything! And then, to prove her cred, had to name all 85 of her children Spanish names! It was rough. From beginning to end.

Posted by: Piper at April 16, 2024 03:17 PM (ZdaMQ)

338 Joe biden can eat an entire pudding cup without getting any on his chinballs.


minor addendum

Posted by: wth at April 16, 2024 03:18 PM (v0R5T)

339 To me it's normal,
*
Well, you're American, so...

At least I am assuming such, like a bastard culture-appropriator.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 16, 2024


***
I am American. My mother was Canadian (the prairie, not Toronto ot Ottawa), though, so to me people like Wm. Shatner and Michael J. Fox sound normal.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 16, 2024 03:18 PM (J2vNu)

340 If they find Baldwin guilty, I would pay the judge to end her sentencing with "You are worthress Arec Bawdwin!"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 16, 2024 03:20 PM (Wnv9h)

341 @298

>>Speaking of Brandon Lee, any new info on The Crow remake?

Well, this CosPlay Girl has some opinions on it...

https://tinyurl.com/25z2esqb

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 16, 2024 03:21 PM (XV/Pl)

342 341 @298

>>Speaking of Brandon Lee, any new info on The Crow remake?

Well, this CosPlay Girl has some opinions on it...

https://tinyurl.com/25z2esqb
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 16, 2024 03:21 PM (XV/Pl)

Only saw The Crow once but remembered thinking that it was the perfect send up for the genre. Not sure that's what was intended, however.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 16, 2024 03:26 PM (KbCG3)

343 Donaldo Trimp must be stoped and prisoned for breaking the law. Double RICO. Mann Action. Sodomy without a Permit in Bergdorf. Joe Bibem will heal this cuntry and do the good thing.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein, Brattleboro Cat Rescue and Morning After Care Clinic at April 16, 2024 03:26 PM (hpb+5)

344 Alec Baldwin is guilty of murder. The ONLY way that weapon can discharge is for the inner components to be cycled through their intended purpose. He is also guilty of gross carelessness in the handling of that firearm.

Nothing more need be said concerning the event. Each and everyone no matter who that has a working knowledge of that particular firearm is aware of those facts.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2024 03:33 PM (KATBx)

345 "[Baldwin] is just as negligent as Guitterez-Reed. "

Someone explain this to me. Yeah, he pulled the trigger on a prop gun loaded with a blank (as far as he knew), which was required by the scene he was shooting. I've not seen any explanation from anyone on how that could make him liable.

Posted by: lyford at April 16, 2024 03:38 PM (gb+vr)

346 169 What no one has explained to me is why movie guns accept live ammo.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 16, 2024 02:37 PM (/SITW)
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Because they pretty much have to in order to be realistic.

I suppose one could build a replica of an old Colt Single Action that only accepts blanks, but it would be expensive to make it look right, and you'd have to manufacture one of these for every kind of weapon used in any movie. It's much more cost-effective to use real guns and leave them in the hands of a competent film armorer.

You could slug the barrel, but that would be damned dangerous for the pulling the trigger on a live round. Deservedly, yes, but still...

Just modify the cylinder. You know why you can't load a .357 round into a .38 revolver? Because the .357 brass is longer, and the hole in the cylinder is machined with a step the thickness of the brass at the shorter length of the .38 round.

Reverse this. An insert thick enough to interfere with the the bullet is welded in from the barrel end just short of the brass length.. The felt wad will blow right past it,big bang, flame and smoke out the end, but any brass with an actual bullet in it can't be inserted.

Posted by: buddhaha at April 16, 2024 04:45 PM (AOz1w)

347 Now lets all just Boycott all of Alec Baldwins movies

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 16, 2024 05:14 PM (wGqjj)

348 So, 18 months for involuntary murder but the Crumbley's are sentenced to 10 to 15 years for the same crime in Michigan. WTF?

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