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House Passes FISA Renewal Bill Without Any Additional Warrant Requirement For Spying on Americans

Of course.

Vote harder, everyone.

A bill to renew a key federal government surveillance tool passed the House of Representatives on Friday, teeing it up for a Senate vote about a week before it's set to expire.

A modified version of the original bill passed a procedural hurdle late on Thursday after a group of 19 conservative privacy hawks sunk the House GOP's chance at passing it earlier this week.

The legislation is aimed at reforming Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which allows the government to surveil foreigners abroad with suspected terror links without a warrant. Section 702 allows the FBI to collect communications of a narrow list of foreign targets, even if the person on the other end of the suspect's communications is an American.

The battle over its renewal has put Johnson in a tough spot between privacy and national security hawks within his conference, while he also navigates a razor-thin majority of just two seats.

National security hawks and members of the intelligence community have called it a critical tool for preventing another 9/11-style attack. However, critics, including both conservatives and progressives, have been seeking to limit its scope after reported instances of abuse to collect data on Americans.

The national "intelligence" community considers Americans to be the greatest threat in the world. We're a threat to their cushy jobs and unchecked, undeserved power.



It was tense in the House chamber on Friday when that amendment [to require a warrant to spy on Americans] -- which ultimately failed to pass in a 212 to 212 vote -- was being considered. Johnson cast a critical and potentially decisive vote against the amendment.


...

They were also backed by former President Donald Trump, who pushed back on the RISA bill on Wednesday morning, declaring on Truth Social, "KILL FISA."

The renewal is for only two years, so we can go through this whole Failure Theater production again in 2026.

And if you like that, you'll love this -- Johnson is negotiating with the White House about a Ukraine aid bill.

There will, of course, be no change in the country's illegally-imposed open borders "law."

House Speaker Mike Johnson is negotiating with the White House as he prepares for the treacherous task of advancing wartime funding for Ukraine and Israel through the House, a top House Republican said Thursday.

House Republican Leader Steve Scalise told reporters that Johnson had been talking with White House officials about a package that would deviate from the Senate's $95 billion foreign security package and include several Republican demands. It comes after Johnson has delayed for months on advancing aid that would provide desperately needed ammunition and weaponry for Kyiv, trying to find the right time to advance a package that will be a painful political lift.

"There's been no agreement reached," Scalise said. "Obviously there would have to be an agreement reached not just with the White House, but with our own members."

Johnson, R-La., is being stretched between a Republican conference deeply divided in its support for Ukraine, as well as two presidential contenders at odds over the U.S.'s posture towards the rest of the world. President Joe Biden has repeatedly chastised Republicans for not helping Ukraine, saying they are doing the bidding of Russian President Vladimir Putin and hurting U.S. security. Meanwhile, Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican candidate, has said he would negotiate an end to the conflict as he tries to push the U.S. to a more isolationist stance.

The Republican speaker is set to travel to the former president's Mar-a-Lago club in Florida on Friday to meet with Trump and has been consulting him in recent weeks on the Ukraine funding to gain his support -- or at least prevent him from openly opposing the package.

Trump would not oppose a funding bill that included border enforcement provisions.

So this "package" will not have it.

Failure Theater, Failure Theater, Failure Theater forever.

"Don't call my bluff," Obama famously said.

That's the entire GOP right there -- "Don't call our bluff which is obviously a bluff and also we want you to win. We just have to put on a bit of a show for our uneducated Bible-thumping racist voters, who we quite openly despise."

Hey everyone get out there and vote like dopes!

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:11 PM




Comments

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1 Fuckers

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 12, 2024 02:12 PM (ftFVW)

2 Something, something Gods of the Copy Book Headings.

Posted by: Max Power at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (q177U)

3 We're royally screwed (again)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (Q4IgG)

4 If we don't vote Team Red no matter what, then Democrats will get what they want!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

5 conservatives and progressives, have been seeking to limit its scope after reported instances of abuse to collect data on Americans.

But that's our mission. How else are we supposed to collect data on Americans?

Posted by: The Intelligence State at April 12, 2024 02:14 PM (J0EBe)

6 I like the new King Harv ad.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 02:15 PM (9yWhg)

7 Traitors and whores. The lot of them.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:15 PM (ynpvh)

8 Man, I can't wait for the failure theater around the cloture vote in the Senate (assuming I haven't already missed it).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

9 6 I like the new King Harv ad.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 02:15 PM (9yWhg)

Much more betterer than pscho coffee hat man.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (ynpvh)

10 to gain his support -- or at least prevent him from openly opposing the package.

I truly doubt that Johnson will have the floor when he meets with Trump.

Posted by: t-bird at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (J0EBe)

11 4 If we don't vote Team Red no matter what, then Democrats will get what they want!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

At this point, the only thing that's going to get the normies to start noticing anything is giving the Dems total, veto-proof control.

75+ Seats in the Senate, 400+ Seats in the House.

It's the only way.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (UnA8+)

12 The ruling class needs to keep the proles in their place.

Every now and then the GoP mask of the ruling class slips.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (JMAcK)

13 Johnson's been bought. No other explanation.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (dGCAG)

14
Johnson is negotiating with the White House about a Ukraine aid bill.

Dumb fvcks gonna be dumb fvcks. What can you do?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (RKVpM)

15 Happy Friday! And eat shit and die, piss ants!

Posted by: CONgress at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (R4t5M)

16 They really think we are stupid, don't they?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)

17 What if the early retiring GOP House members were an effort by Johnson to ensure that the right flank of the caucus couldn't torpedo his Speakership like they had McCarthy considering he was planning on getting this kind of stuff passed?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

18 members of the intelligence community have called it a critical tool for preventing another 9/11-style attack.

Critical tool to preserve their "Democracy" by illegally spying, persecuting and prosecuting Americans.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (ynpvh)

19 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

20 Dems wanted 5 years, GOP wanted 2, Trump will probably hustle to scrap the whole thing, Biden won't.

Posted by: hurricane567 at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (qmtIu)

21 Johnson's been bought. No other explanation.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (dGCAG)



He must be in that new feature film "Weekend at Diddy's."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

22 I saw Failure Theater open for the Butthole Surfers at the Coliseum in '99.

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 12, 2024 02:18 PM (ftFVW)

23 The GOP will never get anywhere until it learns to block vote like the Dums. Every important vote the Dums are 100% in lockstep. Every important vote the GOP is in disarray like a gaggle of stray dogs sniffing each other's assholes in an alley.

Yes, I get it that our House majority is razor thin (in part because of backstabbing by GOP cocksucking motherfucking two-balled bitches). But if the Dums had the same thin margin, they wouldn't have defection problems.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 12, 2024 02:18 PM (iFTx/)

24 What are you doing? You've got guns. Use them.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at April 12, 2024 02:18 PM (0FoWg)

25 21 Johnson's been bought. No other explanation.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (dGCAG)


He must be in that new feature film "Weekend at Diddy's."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

Or paid visits to Epstein Fantasy Island.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:18 PM (ynpvh)

26 The FISA needed to pass so Wray can keep tabs on his mistress.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 02:18 PM (zXWkD)

27 members of the intelligence community have called it a critical tool for preventing another 9/11-style attack.


Yeah, sure. They don't want another 9/11. Pull my other one.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (9yWhg)

28 24 What are you doing? You've got guns. Use them.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at April 12, 2024 02:18 PM (0FoWg)

Shove 'em up your ass. You'd enjoy it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (ynpvh)

29 They really think we are stupid, don't they?
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Nah, they like rubbing our noses in it.

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (ftFVW)

30 23 Yes, I get it that our House majority is razor thin (in part because of backstabbing by GOP cocksucking motherfucking two-balled bitches). But if the Dums had the same thin margin, they wouldn't have defection problems.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 12, 2024 02:18 PM (iFTx/)

At this point, why vote for the closet queers when one could just vote for the proud ones?

At least they don't pretend to be devout believers in Jesus.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (UnA8+)

31 Legalizing an important tool of the 2020 Biden campaign for 2024...

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, Bird Law Expert at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (snyZJ)

32 FISA needs to end.
Just like income tax.
And just as likely to happen....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

33 11 At this point, the only thing that's going to get the normies to start noticing anything is giving the Dems total, veto-proof control.

75+ Seats in the Senate, 400+ Seats in the House.

It's the only way.
Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (UnA8+)

=======

I maintain that the public woke up in 2009, 2010 was the electoral answer, 2012 was won by cheating (FL, MI, and PA were enough to get him over), 2016 showed them the limits of their cheating, 2020 removed all the limits of their cheating because it was necessary in order to win at all, and 2024 will be even more blatant specifically because the public woke up more than a decade ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

34 Mike Johnson is the superset conservative. Not to worry. They're going to pass a separate bill protecting us from the Fed spying so McConnell and Cornyn have something to wipe their butt with.

Posted by: Ribbed at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (CLmzh)

35 The battle over its renewal has put Johnson in a tough spot between privacy and national security
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I like how they label this a "privacy" issue.

It may have been that at the country's founding, but now it's not a "privacy" issue so much as "boot stamping on your face forever" issue.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (yGFFs)

36 27 members of the intelligence community have called it a critical tool for preventing another 9/11-style attack.


Yeah, sure. They don't want another 9/11. Pull my other one.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (9yWhg)

Bundy Ranch?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (ynpvh)

37 House Passes FISA Renewal Bill Without Any Additional Warrant Requirement For Spying on Americans
—Disinformation Expert Ace

Of course.

Vote harder, everyone.

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Vote every incumbent out. I don't care HOW good they are. Rinse & repeat in four to six years.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (i8ZU2)

38 I truly doubt that Johnson will have the floor when he meets with Trump.
Posted by: t-bird at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (J0EBe)

People around these parts got upset with me when I said he wasn't the man for the job about a month or so ago.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (dGCAG)

39 What if the early retiring GOP House members were an effort by Johnson to ensure that the right flank of the caucus couldn't torpedo his Speakership like they had McCarthy considering he was planning on getting this kind of stuff passed?

I don't understand. How does getting rid of a bunch of left-leaning GOPers help him? Wouldn't that give the right flank more power?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (CsUN+)

40 What if Johnson wasn't bought.

Posted by: 13times at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (b2R7d)

41


Can Johnson put a pencil behind his ear and pretend to read Ayn Rand like that asshole Ryan?

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (eDUcf)

42 A modified version of the original bill passed a procedural hurdle late on Thursday after a group of 19 "conservative privacy hawks" sunk the House GOP's chance at passing it temporarily delayed its passage earlier this week until they could extract adequate graft.
++++
Fixed it for them

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (HnUIn)

43 32 FISA needs to end.
Just like income tax.
And just as likely to happen....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

Except FISA removal doesn't require a Constitutional Amendment. But yes, the Deep State doesn't want that tool removed from their toolbox.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

44 National security hawks and members of the intelligence community have called it a critical tool for preventing another 9/11-style attack.
++++
Yeah, and those guys are super-duper trustworthy!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:21 PM (HnUIn)

45 40 What if Johnson wasn't bought.

Posted by: 13times at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (b2R7d)

Blackmailed

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:21 PM (ynpvh)

46 We're not dopes. We're chumps. There's a difference.

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at April 12, 2024 02:22 PM (MvF+J)

47 39 I don't understand. How does getting rid of a bunch of left-leaning GOPers help him? Wouldn't that give the right flank more power?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (CsUN+)

======

The margin for victory becomes too thin, making it even harder for someone like MTG to garner support.

Yes, they would be a (slightly) larger percentage of the caucus, but the margin for the Speaker vote at any stage is much more narrow. Plus, "we can't make waves in an election year."

Now that Johnson has betrayed America and its citizenry, can we dispense with the idea that he's in any way a good Speaker?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

48
People around these parts got upset with me when I said he wasn't the man for the job about a month or so ago.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM


A wise man asks what got his predecessor fired and does not do that. Johnson is not a wise man.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 12, 2024 02:22 PM (RKVpM)

49 48 A wise man asks what got his predecessor fired and does not do that. Johnson is not a wise man.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 12, 2024 02:22 PM (RKVpM)

=======

He'll survive this Congress and get paid afterwards.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)

50 A wise man asks what got his predecessor fired and does not do that. Johnson is not a wise man.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 12, 2024 02:22 PM (RKVpM)

I wise man doesn't volunteer to helm the titanic when it's got about three inches peeking over the water line.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:23 PM (LsETW)

51 33 I maintain that the public woke up in 2009, 2010 was the electoral answer, 2012 was won by cheating (FL, MI, and PA were enough to get him over), 2016 showed them the limits of their cheating, 2020 removed all the limits of their cheating because it was necessary in order to win at all, and 2024 will be even more blatant specifically because the public woke up more than a decade ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

If the public actually woke up, nobody would have luxury beliefs anymore. There'd be no abortion, no troons, no more Omnibus Spending CRs...

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (UnA8+)

52 Johnson county is an arrogant establishment sellout. He doesn't care what happens. And Trump is backing him.

But say Jesus one more time, Mike.

Posted by: Ribbed at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (CLmzh)

53 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Zombie George III at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (9yWhg)

54 We're not dopes. We're chumps. There's a difference.
Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit

And I'm just a sucker with a lump in my throat
Like a chump
I'm like a chump

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (ftFVW)

55 16 they must really think we are stupid, don't they?


In fairness, our record showing otherwise isn't terribly great on the whole.

Posted by: Bete at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (Ec/4+)

56 Vikings drank coffee?
I did not know that.

Posted by: In my best Johnny Carson voice at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (Tz8Uw)

57 Even many GOP politicians have consciouses. It's hard to be pure evil all the time. Only hardcore MAGA can do that, it seems.

Posted by: Sid at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (fLFTu)

58 51 If the public actually woke up, nobody would have luxury beliefs anymore. There'd be no abortion, no troons, no more Omnibus Spending CRs...
Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (UnA8+)

=======

The feedback mechanism has been intentionally broken by those in power.

They can indulge in their luxury ideals to their every whim now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

59 45 40 What if Johnson wasn't bought.

Posted by: 13times at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (b2R7d)

Blackmailed
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:21 PM (ynpvh)

Dead Girl or Live Boy? And how many latex fetish suits?

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:25 PM (UnA8+)

60 Johnson's been bought. No other explanation.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (dGCAG)


He must be in that new feature film "Weekend at Diddy's."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

Or paid visits to Epstein Fantasy Island.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:18 PM (ynpvh)

People won't want to believe it. At this point, if Johnson doesn't want everyone thinking he's a sex pervert or a money grubbing bribe recipient, he has to change his behavior.

Which he won't. So sorry, Mikey, you earned your label.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:25 PM (dGCAG)

61 Posted by: Sid at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (fLFTu)

=========

Dear lord, you love unaccountable state power, fascist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

62 "Trump, the presumptive Republican candidate, has said he would negotiate an end to the conflict as he tries to push the U.S. to a more isolationist stance."

Right, because not funding every war in the world is "isolationist".

Posted by: illiniwek at April 12, 2024 02:25 PM (Cus5s)

63 Ace says this, but yet again he's going to vote for Republican after Republican. When's the last time Ace stayed home instead of voting, or voted for a third party instead of the Republican. Sounds like empty threats.

Posted by: Seriously folks at April 12, 2024 02:25 PM (8A3Oh)

64 House Speaker Mike Johnson is negotiating with the White House as he prepares for the treacherous task of advancing wartime funding for Ukraine and Israel through the House, a top House Republican said Thursday.
++++
Or, you know, grow a pair and take no action - on anything, a 100% block of *all* legislative activity, including spending bills - except bills to seal the border, deploy the military to stop the inflow, eliminate any "asylum" claim if the person had *any* opportunity to stop prior to reaching the American border, order federal LE to begin mass deportations, and cut off 100% of all government funding - grants, highways, education, whatever - to any "sanctuary" jurisdiction are *all* passed.

Play some hardball.

Of course, that's not who they are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:26 PM (HnUIn)

65 Feckless GOP. We really a new party. I guess the Speaker wants more spying of Trump. Screw there people

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:26 PM (d2bW3)

66 National security hawks and members of the intelligence community have called it a critical tool for preventing another 9/11-style attack.

Is that a threat? Are they going to orchestrate another one if we don't let them spy on us?

Posted by: t-bird at April 12, 2024 02:26 PM (J0EBe)

67 64 Play some hardball.

Of course, that's not who they are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:26 PM (HnUIn)

=======

"We can't do that! The National Parks will close!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

68 Failure Theater, Failure Theater, Failure Theater forever.
++++
The only thing that can never be overcome is a person's (or institution's) *desire* to fail.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:26 PM (HnUIn)

69 It's not our country, it's theirs.

We exist only to be bled.

No aid for Americans, but billions for Ukrainians, Palestinians, and Iranians.
No tax cuts for Americans, but millions of illegals don't have to pay a dime.
No police protection for Americans but DC gets fences and National Guard on every corner when they want it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (yikga)

70 Maybe dumping McCarthy was not a good move.

Posted by: Harun at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (c2WeP)

71
Even many GOP politicians have consciouses.

Posted by: Sid at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM


Spell check might make you seem a little less ignorant. Not much, but some.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (RKVpM)

72 Once they finish rolling up every last person who went to DC on Jan 6 they will move onto every blog commenter who supported the protest, and then those
that said J6 was an op....
... then those who didn't enthusiastically support the culling.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (3vcct)

73 "We can't do that! The National Parks will close!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:26 PM (GBKbO)
++++
Okay.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (HnUIn)

74 How stupid is the GOP?

Stupid enough to allow the passage of this bill knowing full well that there would be warrantless spying regardless because our government is out of control and above the law.

Everyone could've won but nope, they couldn't even get that right.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (KbCG3)

75 I'm starting to finally agree with the Left about good Republicans.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (yGFFs)

76 The more I thump the Bible, the more it tells me that this government is irredeemably wicked.

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (MvF+J)

77 Now that Johnson has betrayed America and its citizenry, can we dispense with the idea that he's in any way a good Speaker?

I suppose the correct response is "compared to what"? Is there another candidate who can get the votes to become SoH and would vote the way you want him to?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (CsUN+)

78 Oh No,, it's Dio!

LETS DANCE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMDCHkeLYow

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (X4yCj)

79 M'aiq is sure this body of representatives has the best interests of the American people at heart in these decisions.

Posted by: M'aiq the Liar at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (Zz86T)

80 We can't do that! The National Parks will close!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

"Congress this morning passed a bill to fund the construction of four sets of giant granite hands to be erected in front of Mt. Rushmore so that they look like they're all playing peekaboo. Details at 11."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (LsETW)

81 >>> Johnson's been bought. No other explanation.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (dGCAG)

There isn't anyone in Congress who has any huevos. And that's why we always lose.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (d2bW3)

82 74 How stupid is the GOP?

Stupid enough to allow the passage of this bill knowing full well that there would be warrantless spying regardless because our government is out of control and above the law.

Everyone could've won but nope, they couldn't even get that right.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (KbCG3)

They got a carveout so that they can't be spied upon.

That's all they cared out.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (UnA8+)

83 Can Johnson put a pencil behind his ear and pretend to read Ayn Rand like that asshole Ryan?

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (eDUcf)

Yeah it's easy! Just open up to page 1. Works for me!

Posted by: LaBrawn at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (lg881)

84 Right, because not funding every war in the world is "isolationist".

It's like being a weird hermit. You don't want the US to be a weird hermit, do you?

Posted by: t-bird at April 12, 2024 02:29 PM (J0EBe)

85 It's not our country, it's theirs.

We exist only to be bled.

No aid for Americans, but billions for Ukrainians, Palestinians, and Iranians.
No tax cuts for Americans, but millions of illegals don't have to pay a dime.
No police protection for Americans but DC gets fences and National Guard on every corner when they want it.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (yikga)
++++
In Red China, this is referred to (outside the Party, of course) as people being "leeks" or "minerals."

Leeks are planted and grown, then cut down and harvested, then they regrow. People are leeks. They are cultivated only to be harvested by the state, then expected to grow again for subsequent harvesting until death.

Minerals are present but useless until mined and consumed. People are minerals. They exist only to be extracted and used up by the state.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:29 PM (HnUIn)

86 77 Now that Johnson has betrayed America and its citizenry, can we dispense with the idea that he's in any way a good Speaker?

I suppose the correct response is "compared to what"? Is there another candidate who can get the votes to become SoH and would vote the way you want him to?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (CsUN+)

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So, you admit he's a bad speaker, has no interest in American ideals, and is obviously going to stab us in the back, but he's still better than McCarthy?

I mean, sure, but that's a very low bar.

I've maintained this since the beginning: Johnson is the best speaker in almost 30 years, and he's fucking terrible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:29 PM (GBKbO)

87 What if Johnson wasn't bought.

Posted by: 13times at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (b2R7d)

Blackmailed
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:21 PM (ynpvh)

Bought means someone else owns you. Whether you got cash, or you pay for their silence, you are owned. Bought and sold, like a used tampon.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:29 PM (dGCAG)

88 Anybody got a link to who voted for it? Guess it's too late for primaries but still good to know...

Posted by: bearski at April 12, 2024 02:30 PM (Bhsk7)

89 How stupid is the GOP?

Stupid enough to allow the passage of this bill knowing full well that there would be warrantless spying regardless because our government is out of control and above the law.

Everyone could've won but nope, they couldn't even get that right.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (KbCG3)
++++
They're not stupid, they're corrupt and sinister.

They're all corrupt, so they don't want to cross the IC.
They're also all sinister, and *want* to see continued destruction.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:30 PM (HnUIn)

90

THIS IS THE LAST STRAW!!!

Posted by: Guy who always thinks it's type last straw and maybe this time it really is. at April 12, 2024 02:30 PM (gnGBL)

91 National security hawks and members of the intelligence community have called it a critical tool for preventing another 9/11-style attack.
---
I'm way past the point of caring.

You mean the cities who bleed us dry with their taxes, who cheat and steal elections so only their politicians win, who free their criminals to rob, rape and murder us might suffer--for once-- from their policies?

As their leader Kos once said--with no retribution or punishment--about our soldiers: Fuck 'em.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (yikga)

92 Bought and sold, like a used tampon.
Posted by: BurtTC



That's beautiful, Man.

Posted by: King Charles III at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (9yWhg)

93 I've maintained this since the beginning: Johnson is the best speaker in almost 30 years, and he's fucking terrible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:29 PM (GBKbO

Some people still don't want to give up on the R party. They think the stalwart conservatives are going to somehow take charge, and make it all better.

Or, they're paid commenters, and they just say what their employers have them say here.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (dGCAG)

94 So, you admit he's a bad speaker, has no interest in American ideals, and is obviously going to stab us in the back, but he's still better than McCarthy?


I admitted no such thing. Am I happy with these votes? No, but I'm also not privy to the constraints under which he's operating. So I'll ask the question again. Who better?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (CsUN+)

95 I hate auto cucumber.

Posted by: Guy who always thinks it's type last straw and maybe this time it really is. at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (gnGBL)

96 >>>I've maintained this since the beginning: Johnson is the best speaker in almost 30 years, and he's fucking terrible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


MTG! She's crazy enough to do it!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (d2bW3)

97 90

THIS IS THE LAST STRAW!!!
Posted by: Guy who always thinks it's type last straw and maybe this time it really is. at April 12, 2024 02:30 PM (gnGBL)

There's no Last Straw.
There's no hill to die on.

Because even the citizenry doesn't want to be accused of Fed Talk.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (UnA8+)

98
I'm no dope. I'm a moron trainee wannabe.

But my momma said you don't vote your way out of communism.

Posted by: Auspex at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (j4U/Z)

99 94 I admitted no such thing. Am I happy with these votes? No, but I'm also not privy to the constraints under which he's operating. So I'll ask the question again. Who better?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (CsUN+)

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I remember when Johnson didn't have the votes and taking out McCarthy was suicide.

Take out Johnson. Sort it out later.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (GBKbO)

100 89 How stupid is the GOP?

Stupid enough to allow the passage of this bill knowing full well that there would be warrantless spying regardless because our government is out of control and above the law.

Everyone could've won but nope, they couldn't even get that right.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 12, 2024 02:27 PM (KbCG3)
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They're not stupid, they're corrupt and sinister.

They're all corrupt, so they don't want to cross the IC.
They're also all sinister, and *want* to see continued destruction.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:30 PM (HnUIn)

My point is, they could've done the wink and nod knowing full well the IC wouldn't abide by this anyway.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (KbCG3)

101 FISA bill, modified to satisfy MAGAs, moves forward. Was it smart strategy for the Democrats to stick to tradition and vote against moving the bill forward or would it have better to deny the MAGAs a victory and further embarrass Speaker Johnson by joining with the 193 repubs that supported moving the original version forward?

FISA is a garbage Act. A huge lack of tranparency. I bet TFG liked it a lot. Now it prohibits monitoring/investigating Russia/Putin?

actually, he hates it. He's happy that it is only being renewed for two years because he figures that if he's re-elected, he can kill it during his second term.

Irks me that he and I agree one thing. But if there HAS to be one, this is the one I might choose. it's just rife with opportunities to make bad mistakes and abuse. It's the sort of thing a dictator would come up with.

no matter how disfunctional our system becomes, we'll always have warrantless wiretaps

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (JCZqz)

102 "they're paid commenters"

I'm always late to a good thing. How do I get paid for this?

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (MvF+J)

103 THIS IS THE LAST STRAW!!!
Posted by: Guy who always thinks it's type last straw and maybe this time it really is

Only the fool believes there is a last straw.

Posted by: Confucius, or Confusion, or whatever at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (ftFVW)

104 81 >>> Johnson's been bought. No other explanation.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (dGCAG)

There isn't anyone in Congress who has any huevos. And that's why we always lose.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:28 PM (d2bW3)

The notion that DC entities have more than one loyalty is quaint and outmoded. They have one loyalty. One.

Posted by: tubal at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (PCK5/)

105 National security hawks and members of the intelligence community have called it a critical tool for preventing another 9/11-style attack.
---
I'm way past the point of caring.

You mean the cities who bleed us dry with their taxes, who cheat and steal elections so only their politicians win, who free their criminals to rob, rape and murder us might suffer--for once-- from their policies?

As their leader Kos once said--with no retribution or punishment--about our soldiers: Fuck 'em.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (yikga)

National security hawks and members of the intelligence community should be hanging from lamp posts.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

106 Left wingers are anti-war.
Right wingers are isolationists.

Posted by: 13times at April 12, 2024 02:33 PM (b2R7d)

107 101 Irks me that he and I agree one thing. But if there HAS to be one, this is the one I might choose. it's just rife with opportunities to make bad mistakes and abuse. It's the sort of thing a dictator would come up with.

no matter how disfunctional our system becomes, we'll always have warrantless wiretaps
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (JCZqz)

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"But the unaccountable bureaucracy under Biden would never use it badly because Biden is a good and moral man."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

108 "they're paid commenters"

I'm always late to a good thing. How do I get paid for this?


You have to know people. I know people.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:33 PM (CsUN+)

109 Only the fool believes there is a last straw.
Posted by: Confucius, or Confusion, or whatever at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (ftFVW)

You've clearly never been to an Arby's at five minutes to closing time....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:33 PM (LsETW)

110 Let's not make a big deal about this. It's an election year and we don't want to scare the Karens.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:33 PM (yGFFs)

111 100 They're not stupid, they're corrupt and sinister.

They're all corrupt, so they don't want to cross the IC.
They're also all sinister, and *want* to see continued destruction.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:30 PM (HnUIn)

My point is, they could've done the wink and nod knowing full well the IC wouldn't abide by this anyway.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (KbCG3)

They all have armed guards, and yet are still "afraid of the IC".

Yeah, right.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:33 PM (UnA8+)

112 The fine print will tell you it's to spy on American citizens who love America, those who H8 will never be noticed

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 02:34 PM (fwDg9)

113 I'm always late to a good thing. How do I get paid for this?
Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (MvF+J)

You have to have no principles, and say dumb shit all the time.

I don't think you're the man for the job.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:34 PM (dGCAG)

114 What if Johnson wasn't bought.

I.e. he's an enemy of freedom because he chooses to be? I wish I could discount the possibility but...

As I said yesterday or the day before, I'm becoming less critical of MTG's way of thinking. Obviously, the uniparty didn't learn a lesson from McCarthy, so we need to keep bitchslapping them until they do. The downside of course is that their bench is way deeper than ours.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 02:34 PM (/y8xj)

115 >>>Take out Johnson. Sort it out later.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Enough of them are already leaving, or resigning, etc so we can get more dems.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:34 PM (d2bW3)

116 110 Let's not make a big deal about this. It's an election year and we don't want to scare the Karens.
Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:33 PM (yGFFs)

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They're past their primary season (mostly), know that Democrats haven't been stopped from stuffing ballots in Philly, and that it'll get lost in the noise of election season by the end of the day.

By the start of 2025, they'll be able to fundraise on trying to end it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

117 Hey remember when the elected Republican excuse for staying mouse silent on every issue and never fighting was that they were afraid of being called a racist because the president was 1/4 black?

I remember. And I remember saying it was bullshit.

What's their excuse now again?

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:35 PM (yGFFs)

118 Allow me to suggest another possibility. Perhaps Trump is the one whispering in Johnson's ear. Trump wants to make the GOP look like a responsible party that he can work with to get things done. Burning it all down now does not help his reelection.

Just a thought.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:35 PM (CsUN+)

119 56 Vikings drank coffee?
I did not know that.

Posted by: In my best Johnny Carson voice at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (Tz8Uw)

Out of skull bowls made from their defeated enemies...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:35 PM (ynpvh)

120 118 Allow me to suggest another possibility. Perhaps Trump is the one whispering in Johnson's ear. Trump wants to make the GOP look like a responsible party that he can work with to get things done. Burning it all down now does not help his reelection.

Just a thought.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:35 PM (CsUN+)

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The re-authorizing FISA is a terrible way to do that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:35 PM (GBKbO)

121 I'm always late to a good thing. How do I get paid for this?
Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit

You have to have no principles, and say dumb shit all the time.

I don't think you're the man for the job.
Posted by: BurtTC

Also the going rate is $20, so you know...

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (ftFVW)

122 They had to pass it, you see.

There are so many terrorists in this country now with the borders being wide open, they NEED to spy on everyone.

National security, you see.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)

123 But really, is anyone NOT going to vote a nearly straight Republican ticket in November?

Posted by: Seriously folks at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (8A3Oh)

124 THIS IS THE LAST STRAW!!!
Posted by: Guy who always thinks it's type last straw and maybe this time it really is

Only the fool believes there is a last straw.

Posted by: Confucius, or Confusion, or whatever



There is no straw.

Posted by: Bald Chick at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (lTGtQ)

125 Like I said last night - useful idiots like Trey Gowdy always loudly squawk how the FISA bill will continue to help us roll up Iranian and Russian spies who are going to terrorize America!

But no one very asks this dufus who many have Iranians or Russian terrorists have actually successfully been rolled up by the FISA law? That answer would be...none.

But it's been hugely successful in rolling up Americans who don't agree with how they are being governed. Which was the point.

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (K+UlC)

126 Bought and sold, like a used tampon.

Posted by: BurtTC

That's beautiful, Man.

Posted by: King Charles III at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (9yWhg)

Ok, I come here for these comments. LOL.

Posted by: What a maroon at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (gnGBL)

127 We have one party rule… the naming conventions are just fluff.

Posted by: tubal at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (PCK5/)

128 Just a thought.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:35 PM (CsUN+)

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The re-authorizing FISA is a terrible way to do that.


I tend to agree, but I'm not Trump.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (CsUN+)

129 128 The re-authorizing FISA is a terrible way to do that.

I tend to agree, but I'm not Trump.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (CsUN+)

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I love how you're trying to turn this terrible decision into a Trump problem even though he's publicly against it.

Conspiratorial thinking, if you ask me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

130 >>>There are so many terrorists in this country now with the borders being wide open, they NEED to spy on everyone.

National security, you see.
Posted by: Sponge

Except the terrorists will be immune. The Catholics will be persecuted

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:37 PM (d2bW3)

131 MTG! She's crazy enough to do it!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (d2bW3)

If one listens to her, she's really not crazy at all. Somewhat hyperbolic at times, prone to participating in the theater performances that sometimes happen in the chamber.

But generally right about most things, including how corrupt her party is.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:37 PM (dGCAG)

132 It all depends on the definition of 'us'.

Posted by: That guy who always says it depends on the definition of us. at April 12, 2024 02:37 PM (991eG)

133
Except the terrorists will be immune. The Catholics will be persecuted
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:37 PM (d2bW3)



A welcome side effect.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)

134 I love how you're trying to turn this terrible decision into a Trump problem even though he's publicly against it.

Conspiratorial thinking, if you ask me.


What part of "just a thought" eludes you.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:38 PM (CsUN+)

135 134 Conspiratorial thinking, if you ask me.

What part of "just a thought" eludes you.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:38 PM (CsUN+)

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What part of "thinking" in "conspiratorial thinking" eludes you?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:38 PM (GBKbO)

136 >>>But really, is anyone NOT going to vote a nearly straight Republican ticket in November?
Posted by: Seriously folks


Enjoying voting Democrat.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:38 PM (d2bW3)

137 Archimedes
----------

You think *Trump* is the reason Johnson is acting like almost every Republican rep with power for the last 40 years?

That's - something.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:38 PM (yGFFs)

138 131

If one listens to her, she's really not crazy at all. Somewhat hyperbolic at times, prone to participating in the theater performances that sometimes happen in the chamber.

But generally right about most things, including how corrupt her party is.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:37 PM (dGCAG)

How else is she going to be listened to?? Civility?

Posted by: tubal at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (PCK5/)

139 Who does congress ACTUALLY fear?

Because you don't have to fear a man who can't kill you.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (UnA8+)

140 FLAMEWAR!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (Zz0t1)

141 139 Who does congress ACTUALLY fear?

Because you don't have to fear a man who can't kill you.
Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (UnA8+)

=======

They put up razor wire fences after they allowed a stolen election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)

142 But really, is anyone NOT going to vote a nearly straight Republican ticket in November?
Posted by: Seriously folks

Bill Kristol, is that you?

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (ftFVW)

143 I saw Goody Johnson dancing with the Orange Man

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (LsETW)

144 Conservative Treehouse did an informative and very short “Inside Baseball Stuff on FISA 702 Reauthorization” that’s probably worth reading in this context.

First… They really do think the IC is full of honorable rank-and-file. They are inside a DC bubble.

Second, the IC argument is now something akin to we have let thousands of terrorists into the country through the southern border crisis.

Third, FISA 702 reauthorization is used as a bargaining chip by people who don’t want to get caught up in the surveillance.

One and Three sound contradictory to me, but I wouldn’t be surprised if DC can siloize their own minds to the full extent.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (EXyHK)

145 This is the last time I vote GOP.....except for the last 27 times.

There are no consequences.
There is no win.
We're already gone.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (+oR7L)

146 "Only the fool believes there is a last straw."

I wish I had enough money to buy a straw.

Posted by: Outside of Life at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (89Sog)

147 Out of skull bowls made from their defeated enemies...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:35 PM (ynpvh)

I wanted to buy a human skull once, back when you could one from Carolina Biological. I wanted to use it as a candy dish. Wife: NO. Gees.

Posted by: What a maroon at April 12, 2024 02:40 PM (gnGBL)

148 After this, the Uniparty / GOP will be sponsoring a bill legalizing abortion federally until 18 months after birth. Because that's who they are.

Posted by: Roy at April 12, 2024 02:40 PM (z+ik4)

149 If we don't vote Team Red no matter what, then Democrats will get what they want!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

Even Ted Cruz's fundraising texts come from Win Red.

Maybe if you break from the pack on that you get zero of the sweet sweet senate warchest bux or whatever but I don't see any of them breaking from the pack when it comes to money.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 12, 2024 02:40 PM (z/ifB)

150 IC meets with Johnson:

Mr Speaker, you didn't really think that private browser meant private, did you?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 12, 2024 02:40 PM (2UnvF)

151 Then: If you let the government see AQ member's library records democracy has died

Now: If you didn't do anything wrong comrade you should not fear the secret police monitoring your phone calls, reading your emails, and entering your house

Posted by: 18-1 at April 12, 2024 02:40 PM (ibTVg)

152 Gaetz is happy the reup was only for 2 years instead of 5. I guess it gives Trump a meaningful accomplishment to defeat it in '26 if we last that long.

Posted by: We are Republicans who like losing. at April 12, 2024 02:40 PM (GD2xa)

153 >>>If one listens to her, she's really not crazy at all. Somewhat hyperbolic at times, prone to participating in the theater performances that sometimes happen in the chamber.

But generally right about most things, including how corrupt her party is.
Posted by: BurtTC

I agree which is why I posted it. She'd probably be better than anyone else. Plus she hates the Dems.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 12, 2024 02:40 PM (d2bW3)

154 Off, House of Windsor Sock.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (9yWhg)

155 What part of "thinking" in "conspiratorial thinking" eludes you?

I prefer to think about things and consider other options rather than just setting my hair on fire. You do you.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (CsUN+)

156 Who does congress ACTUALLY fear?

Because you don't have to fear a man who can't kill you.

Posted by: XTC


When they have public events at the capitol, they put fences around the building. That tells you who their enemy is.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (lTGtQ)

157 Some people still don't want to give up on the R party. They think the stalwart conservatives are going to somehow take charge, and make it all better. Or, they're paid commenters, and they just say what their employers have them say here.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:31 PM (dGCAG)


They're not paid. They're people who've voted, thinking they were making a difference, for as far back as they can remember. And they can't stand the idea that they voted for a sham. That they bought a lie.

Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (wVJoi)

158 149 Even Ted Cruz's fundraising texts come from Win Red.

Maybe if you break from the pack on that you get zero of the sweet sweet senate warchest bux or whatever but I don't see any of them breaking from the pack when it comes to money.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 12, 2024 02:40 PM (z/ifB)

========

Donor money is the central problem of the GOP. Those with alternate funding networks tend to not share them, so they tend to end up very isolated.

The GOP is bought and paid for.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (GBKbO)

159 Oh, no! But here's how it's being portrayed in MSM venues: House GOP Hands Johnson a Win on FISA Bill

US News & World Report, today: While just a procedural vote, the win for the House speaker comes after a series of embarrassing losses that prevented lawmakers from even considering crucial national security legislation.

"Speaker Mike Johnson saw his fortunes take a sudden and dramatic turn for the better..."

"... Despite many members of his party expressing skepticism regarding the tool before, defections grew exponentially following a social media post from former President Donald Trump opposing it."

Now it just needs to pass the Senate ahead of an April 19 deadline. No problem. *wink*

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (NFX2v)

160 149 Even Ted Cruz's fundraising texts come from Win Red.

Maybe if you break from the pack on that you get zero of the sweet sweet senate warchest bux or whatever but I don't see any of them breaking from the pack when it comes to money.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 12, 2024 02:40 PM (z/ifB)

You don't play the game, you don't get those sweet, sweet committee seats.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (UnA8+)

161 Maybe if we all show up on election day dressed like King Harv they will take us more seriously.

Posted by: The Frumious Follywood at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (ij0BO)

162 There is one power, it is the State, it is in DC, and it exists beyond and besides the periodic elections of its’’ servants.

Posted by: tubal at April 12, 2024 02:42 PM (PCK5/)

163 Mr Speaker, you didn't really think that private browser meant private, did you?

Right of center voters are going to have to get a lot more serious about what they view as a scandal because the Deep State will bring anything negative its opponents have in their closet out to the public...if they aren't making things up.

It is good most right of center voters just don't give a shit if Trump had an affair or not, but letting the left torpedo Roy Moore in Alabama over spurious claims set us back years...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 12, 2024 02:42 PM (ibTVg)

164 Trump wants to make the GOP look like a responsible party that he can work with to get things done.

That would be a very Republican way of thinking. But some don't just want "things" done, we want the right things to get done. And this ain't one of those.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 02:42 PM (/y8xj)

165 There is no straw.
Posted by: Bald Chick at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (lTGtQ)

I AM THE STRAW

Posted by: Judge "Dredd" Moraes of Brazeeeel at April 12, 2024 02:43 PM (dGCAG)

166 Trump wants to make the GOP look like a responsible party that he can work with to get things done.

That would be a very Republican way of thinking. But some don't just want "things" done, we want the right things to get done. And this ain't one of those.


I get that and agree, but he "might" be playing the long game. IDK.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:43 PM (CsUN+)

167 Obviously, the uniparty didn't learn a lesson from McCarthy, so we need to keep bitchslapping them until they do. The downside of course is that their bench is way deeper than ours.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 02:34 PM (/y8xj)

...

I think our bench is plenty deep with bitches that need slapping.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (z/ifB)

168 So, I'm guessing in that private "briefing" Mike got from the IC this week, lots of skeletons were brought out of the closet for a cameo.

There is no joy in Mudville, nor ethics in DC.

Posted by: Joe Mama at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (lZVy/)

169
I prefer to think about things and consider other options rather than just setting my hair on fire. You do you.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (CsUN+)

You don't think there's a middle ground between thinking insane things and self-immolation? I, love you man so I'm partly just funning with you.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (yGFFs)

170 140 FLAMEWAR!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (Zz0t1)

Heh, heh - Okay guys, can't we all just get along here?
*Everyone throws pies in Boswell's face

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (K+UlC)

171 Trump wants to make the GOP look like a responsible party that he can work with to get things done.


Most problems normal people have currently are caused by the government 'doing things' and would be better served by congress and the president rolling back laws for the next decade or two then creating any new ones

Posted by: 18-1 at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (ibTVg)

172 I've maintained this since the beginning: Johnson is the best speaker in almost 30 years, and he's fucking terrible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:29 PM (GBKbO)

I agree completely. And I hold that it is because the House has been so degraded and neutered that a "good" speaker is no longer a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised at all if 5 or 6 of the fake Republicans in the caucus have told Johnson that they'll vote to put Hakeem Jeffries in the speaker's chair if he doesn't give in to what they want. And they could do it easily.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (S6gqv)

173 Every. Single. Day.

In spite of what anyone with the brain cell of an amoeba has had drilled into them over the past four years or more about the loathing of the ruling caste for ordinary taxpaying Americans. And the demented voraciousness and insane will to power that they have.

Every single day we read of new perversions and rules that they enact to cement their power. And every single day they push inexorably for more. And although we seem to be slowly waking up, every day we lose a bit more liberty and they shove us harder.

Not sure how Ace processes this and keeps his sanity. Hopefully, Gainzz.

Posted by: RM at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (urbih)

174 Piss, in the Wind…
All this is is Piss in the Wind…

Posted by: tubal at April 12, 2024 02:45 PM (PCK5/)

175 I prefer to think about things and consider other options rather than just setting my hair on fire. You do you.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (CsUN+)

The "Stop and Smell the Roses on the March to the Camps" Gambit.

Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:45 PM (wVJoi)

Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:45 PM (wVJoi)

177 They're not paid. They're people who've voted, thinking they were making a difference, for as far back as they can remember. And they can't stand the idea that they voted for a sham. That they bought a lie.
Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:41 PM (wVJoi)

I'm sure that's true for some, but AoSHQ has always had paid commenters show up, especially during election years.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:45 PM (dGCAG)

178 I had such high hopes for a moment on the David Hogg torched by Chinese Immigrant story in the sidebar.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:45 PM (yGFFs)

179 They put up razor wire fences after they allowed a stolen election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda
‐-------
SOP - after a coup-coup secure the capitol after seizing power.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 12, 2024 02:45 PM (3vcct)

180 Disappointed with Johnson.

The 2 years thing is the only win. Trump can veto the damn thing in 2 years if in fact he is also against it. No way a veto override will get mustered in this environment...

Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 02:45 PM (exHjb)

181 Horde Status Check:

Hair:
[] Not on fire
[] On fire

Jets:
[] Cooled
[] Flaming

Tits:
[] Calm
[] Hysterical with RAGE!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 02:46 PM (Be/+i)

182 I agree completely. And I hold that it is because the House has been so degraded and neutered that a "good" speaker is no longer a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised at all if 5 or 6 of the fake Republicans in the caucus have told Johnson that they'll vote to put Hakeem Jeffries in the speaker's chair if he doesn't give in to what they want. And they could do it easily.

This is exactly what I meant by my not being privy to all the constraints under which Johnson is operating.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:46 PM (CsUN+)

183 I hate all those fuckers who signed.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 02:47 PM (JeYYB)

184 I agree completely. And I hold that it is because the House has been so degraded and neutered that a "good" speaker is no longer a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised at all if 5 or 6 of the fake Republicans in the caucus have told Johnson that they'll vote to put Hakeem Jeffries in the speaker's chair if he doesn't give in to what they want. And they could do it easily.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (S6gqv)

That might be true, but if Johnson was actually a man of principle, he would sacrifice his gavel and chair, to do the right thing.

But he's not doing that.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:47 PM (dGCAG)

185 This is exactly what I meant by my not being privy to all the constraints under which Johnson is operating.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:46 PM (CsUN+)

It's only a constraint if you're too in love with the job to say "go right on ahead".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (LsETW)

186 182

This is exactly what I meant by my not being privy to all the constraints under which Johnson is operating.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:46 PM (CsUN+)

Granting that your premise is accurate, how will anything benefial ever get done now?

Posted by: tubal at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (PCK5/)

187
Gop is dead

Posted by: Friedrich Nietzsche at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (+oR7L)

188 Are there any foreigners worth surveilling who aren't already inside the borders of the U.S.?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (991eG)

189 I'm sure that's true for some, but AoSHQ has always had paid commenters show up, especially during election years.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:45 PM (dGCAG)


Archimedes isn't one. JackStraw wasn't one, and he shilled harder than anyone against the idea of the UniParty for a long time.

I could go on. A bunch of long-time commenters that, at the end of the day, can't or won't accept the idea that the GOP is half of the UniParty. Can't and Won't equal the same thing, in the end.

Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (wVJoi)

190 171 Trump wants to make the GOP look like a responsible party that he can work with to get things done.


I don't want to "get things done" just to get things done.

I want a badass to storm in, shout "F*** ALL OF YOU DEGENERATES, NORMALCY NOW! AUSTERITY NOW! FORMALITY NOW! YOU WILL BEHAVE LIKE PROPER ADULTS, NOT PERPETUAL BABIES!"

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (UnA8+)

191 The Dow is down +/- 500 again today, three days in a row. I guess that serious business going on in DC is helping the market.

Now that a DNC racist hack is running the BLS and fudging the numbers when she isn't screaming about evil white people and front running the numbers to Blackrock, I guess the world's largest financial market isn't sure of what to do based on faked data.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (lTGtQ)

192 181 Horde Status Check:

Hair:
[] Not on fire
[] On fire

Jets:
[] Cooled
[] Flaming

Tits:
[] Calm
[] Hysterical with RAGE!


What about me?

Posted by: JT's birdbath at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (Tz8Uw)

193 Although I guess if Trump takes charge with a huge enough majority, there's no reason this can't be revoted on and authority removed...or adjusted.

Now, that didn't happen with Obamacare, but maybe Trump's a little more savvy on how to get things done now...stroke of a pen might work...

Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (exHjb)

194 I like M T-G

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (fwDg9)

195 So this amendment would do what to the FISA bill ? Tell the IC they must get a warrant first to spy on Americans? We have a fourth amendment which they ignore with impunity. All adding another layer of directives in the bill is no different than the Democrats adding yet another law restricting gun ownership. Criminals ignore it. Just like the IC and their friends at the DOJ.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (MZM5C)

196 I get that and agree, but he "might" be playing the long game. IDK.

If so, it's not to his credit. Remember all the way back in the dim years of 2015 when the thing we all liked best about DJT was the he wasn't a politician?

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (/y8xj)

197 So, just to cap everything off with a little extra zest, Hamas, the Democrats best friends, have a detailed, written plan to open slave labor and extermination camps for Jews, once they win the war against Israel.

So claims HotGas anyway.

These are the people the Junta supports.

Posted by: The Frumious Follywood at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (ij0BO)

198 Stop making excuses for Johnson. It's obvious that he's just another RINO squish.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (9yWhg)

199 Constrain them in the privy.

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (MvF+J)

200 185 This is exactly what I meant by my not being privy to all the constraints under which Johnson is operating.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:46 PM (CsUN+)

It's only a constraint if you're too in love with the job to say "go right on ahead".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (LsETW)

=========

5 GOPe members siding with the Democrats to unseat Johnson because Johnson...slightly limited FBI spying powers (requiring a rubber stamp, effectively), would be wonderfully informative.

He should have called their bluff, to coin a phrase.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (GBKbO)

201 It's only a constraint if you're too in love with the job to say "go right on ahead".

OR

He knows that putting Jeffries in the SoH would be a catastrophe for the country and for the Trump reelection campaign.

Would it be? Dunno, but I think it needs to be considered.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (CsUN+)

202 "President Joe Biden has repeatedly chastised Republicans for not helping Ukraine"

Is a compliment from a fool really a compliment?
Is a chastisement from a fool really a chastisement?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (TOe+Q)

203 I don't understand the appeal of getting committee assignments (and chairs). Admittedly I'm not Senator material.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (z/ifB)

204 I hate all those fuckers who signed.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 02:47 PM


Why limit yourself. I hate all of those fuckers.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (Wnv9h)

205 189 I could go on. A bunch of long-time commenters that, at the end of the day, can't or won't accept the idea that the GOP is half of the UniParty. Can't and Won't equal the same thing, in the end.
Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (wVJoi)

They're not half.

They're more like 25%. They exist just to feed on whatever table scraps the Big Man (Democrats) deigns to throw at them.

And they like being treated that way.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (UnA8+)

206 What about me?
Posted by: JT's birdbath at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (Tz8Uw)
-----------
That's, like, a whole other thing, man. Y'know?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (Be/+i)

207 A Speaker Jeffries would be the best thing that ever happened to America.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (LsETW)

208 203 I don't understand the appeal of getting committee assignments (and chairs). Admittedly I'm not Senator material.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (z/ifB)

======

Good committee assignments get you in contact with Lockheed-Martin.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (GBKbO)

209 And if you like that, you'll love this -- Johnson is negotiating with the White House about a Ukraine aid bill.

I'm actually of two minds about this - Ukraine is likely to lose the war this summer, and of course the Republicans are being set up as the fall guys for this.

Passing the aid bill, although heinous, does somewhat protect the Republicans in the upcoming "Who Lost Ukraine" debate.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (YAtuc)

210
MacGyver employed used tampons all the time to escape tight situations.

You can see the episodes on Disney streaming flowing.

Posted by: Auspex at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (j4U/Z)

211 Has anyone else noticed that there has not been ONE FUCKING thing Congress does that has been a positive for American citizens?

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (JeYYB)

212 62 "Trump, the presumptive Republican candidate, has said he would negotiate an end to the conflict as he tries to push the U.S. to a more isolationist stance."

Right, because not funding every war in the world is "isolationist".
Posted by: illiniwek at April 12, 2024 02:25 PM (Cus5s)

----

And because not funding both sides of every war would be unfair!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, Bird Law Expert at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (snyZJ)

213 This is exactly what I meant by my not being privy to all the constraints under which Johnson is operating.

He's under no constraint ... none ... to vote either way. His vote is his and his alone. He voted in support, did he not ?

Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (wVJoi)

214 Are there any foreigners worth surveilling who aren't already inside the borders of the U.S.?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (991eG)


I'd like to surveil Lea Seydoux, IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: spindrift at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (OguvZ)

215 Posted by: The Frumious Follywood at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (ij0BO)

AKA the "two state solution"

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (yGFFs)

216 FLAMEWAR!
Posted by: Sponge

*******

Nah.

SLAP FIGHT!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 02:51 PM (991eG)

217 139 Who does congress ACTUALLY fear?

Because you don't have to fear a man who can't kill you.
Posted by: XTC

Only those who can actually get & enforce Term Limits in the three branches of government.

Time is passing for change. Now or never, until the time when many of us have passed & they're building back better.

(Almost @ not my monkeys, not my circus, for me. And,that's exactly what they want.)

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at April 12, 2024 02:51 PM (NFX2v)

218 I get that and agree, but he "might" be playing the long game. IDK.

If so, it's not to his credit. Remember all the way back in the dim years of 2015 when the thing we all liked best about DJT was the he wasn't a politician?


I have been very positive about Trump since DeS dropped out, but that doesn't mean I agree with everything he says and does.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:51 PM (CsUN+)

219 SLAP FIGHT!
Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 02:51 PM


JAZZ HANDS!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 02:52 PM (Wnv9h)

220 I was constrained in my privy until I tried Metamucil.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 02:52 PM (991eG)

221 I wouldn't be surprised at all if 5 or 6 of the fake Republicans in the caucus have told Johnson that they'll vote to put Hakeem Jeffries in the speaker's chair if he doesn't give in to what they want. And they could do it easily.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (S6gqv)

That's because the DC in general has long degenerated into an 8th grade girls' locker room with cliques and drama queens, drinking and social climbing. The results of incredible amounts of money thrown on top and the ever-present risqué rendezvous by congressional staffers just up the hill at the usual hangouts and you have The Real Housewives of DC as your government body.

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:52 PM (K+UlC)

222 Are there any foreigners worth surveilling who aren't already inside the borders of the U.S.?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 02:48 PM (991eG)

I'm certain there are some, in those fancy hotels in Qatar.

But I'm assuming since they've got our intelligence boys and girls on their knees in front of them, there's not much need for "surveillance" using electronic spying techniques.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:53 PM (dGCAG)

223 It's treasonous fucks all the way up ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 02:53 PM (GM9gJ)

224 I wouldn't be surprised at all if 5 or 6 of the fake Republicans in the caucus have told Johnson that they'll vote to put Hakeem Jeffries in the speaker's chair if he doesn't give in to what they want. And they could do it easily.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (S6gqv)


Then you name names, and damn the consequences. You know, if one actually has a set of balls.

Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (wVJoi)

225 SLAP FIGHT!
Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 02:51 PM

JAZZ HANDS!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 02:52 PM (Wnv9h)
----------
BELL KICKS!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (Be/+i)

226 Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:51 PM (CsUN+)

I don't think you're in any danger of becoming a Trump MAGAmaniac

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (yGFFs)

227 What happens in the privy stays in the privy.

Posted by: Unlike Vegas at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (Tz8Uw)

228 Then you name names, and damn the consequences. You know, if one actually has a set of balls.
Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (wVJoi)

They can't vote in secret.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (LsETW)

229 I was constrained in my privy until I tried Metamucil.
Posted by: Muldoon


I bought some Metamucil once. Read the label, and there were all these warnings of the dire things that would happen if you took too much of it. Scared the heck outta me. I never used it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (9yWhg)

230
I remember after 9/11 and the 'Patriot Act' I had to modify a school library database program to record what all those little Catholic school kids were taking out of the library. Just in case they got 'radicalized' by Islamist's lurking around every corner.

As a programming challenge it was fun. Took about two non-billable hours. Sure, I recorded it, but made no avenue to extract the data.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (RKVpM)

231 I don't think you're in any danger of becoming a Trump MAGAmaniac

True, but I'm certainly anxious that he beat Biden.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:55 PM (CsUN+)

232 Mister, we could use a man like Georgie Santos again ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 02:55 PM (GM9gJ)

233 225 SLAP FIGHT!
Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 02:51 PM

JAZZ HANDS!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 02:52 PM (Wnv9h)
----------
BELL KICKS!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (Be/+i)
------
GRANDMA EAR TWIST!

Posted by: Just Lily at April 12, 2024 02:55 PM (RLLZj)

234 BELL KICKS!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM


No. No. No. No....No Morris dancing allowed.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 02:55 PM (Wnv9h)

235 TOGA!

Posted by: Bluto at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (Tz8Uw)

236 I'm actually of two minds about this - Ukraine is likely to lose the war this summer, and of course the Republicans are being set up as the fall guys for this.

Passing the aid bill, although heinous, does somewhat protect the Republicans in the upcoming "Who Lost Ukraine" debate.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (YAtuc)

The administration is saying Ukraine WILL become a Nato member.

As soon as they make it official, WW3 starts.

There won't be any debates at that point. Everyone will be at war. And the election will be cancelled.

Or maybe not. Maybe the Yellowstone Caldera pops, and saves us all from this orchestrated fustercluck.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (dGCAG)

237 What happens in the privy stays in the privy.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Tywin Lannister at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (CsUN+)

238 I recorded it, but made no avenue to extract the data.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

**SNORT**

Well done!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (GwTP3)

239 122 They had to pass it, you see.

There are so many terrorists in this country now with the borders being wide open, they NEED to spy on everyone.

National security, you see.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)

———

Yes, similar to the “we need a huge ass military to counter the Chinese we just spent 30 years building up into a superpower.”

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (ehu56)

240 I'm actually of two minds about this - Ukraine is likely to lose the war this summer, and of course the Republicans are being set up as the fall guys for this.

Passing the aid bill, although heinous, does somewhat protect the Republicans in the upcoming "Who Lost Ukraine" debate.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (YAtuc)

They will be blamed no matter what they pass... so don't bother.

Plus, truthfully, I will not vote for anyone who sends my money to a war that has nothing at all to do with the Citizenry, just the intel State.

We have now been at war for over 20 years, and have dick to show for it... we are not safer... in fact the world is much more dangerous because no one fears us anymore.

F'n IRAN just warned us not to help Israel, or they would attack our troops in the Mid East....

Posted by: Ogre at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (xaFKb)

241 Posted by: Ogre at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (xaFKb)

Off sock... because I OWN that opinion.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 02:57 PM (xaFKb)

242 What happens in the privy stays in the privy.

Posted by: Unlike Vegas



Says who?

Posted by: Tori Spelling at April 12, 2024 02:57 PM (lTGtQ)

243 241 Posted by: Ogre at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (xaFKb)

Off sock... because I OWN that opinion.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 02:57 PM (xaFKb)

======

"You will own nothing, and you will like it."
-WEF

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:58 PM (GBKbO)

244 No. No. No. No....No Morris dancing allowed.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 02:55 PM (Wnv9h)
-----------
I have a concertina and I'm not afraid to use it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 02:58 PM (Be/+i)

245 F'n IRAN just warned us not to help Israel, or they would attack our troops in the Mid East....
___

When did they stop?

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at April 12, 2024 02:58 PM (RU4sa)

246
PURPLE NURPLES?

Posted by: Auspex at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (j4U/Z)

247 Why don't we just make it easy and repeal the 4th amendment? Then the cops can stop pretending to care about our rights.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (dX6W8)

248 I'm actually of two minds about this - Ukraine is likely to lose the war this summer, and of course the Republicans are being set up as the fall guys for this.

If it's a war that doesn't matter one way or the other, why send any treasure just to not be blamed ? A lot of what goes around here is old Cold War thinking.

I don't have a damn thing to do with the state of my neighbors roof. If he blames me ? If the entire 'hood blames me ? I don't care.

Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (wVJoi)

249 Trump-Hating Former Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe FINALLY Comes Clean After Years of Lying – Says Carter Page FISA Application to Spy on Trump Was “Wrong” and a “Mistake” (VIDEO)

- gateway pundit

How timely

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (3vcct)

250 Horde Status Check:

Hair:
[] Not on fire
[] On fire

Jets:
[] Cooled
[] Flaming

Tits:
[] Calm
[] Hysterical with RAGE!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 02:46 PM (Be/+i)

--

Shit:
[ ] All retarded
[ ] Mostly retarded
[ ] Only somewhat retarded

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (e/Vbj)

251 Posted by: Ogre at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (xaFKb)

Off sock... because I OWN that opinion.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 02:57 PM (xaFKb)

Oh, I thought we had a new sane poster here.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (dGCAG)

252 House Speaker Mike Johnson is negotiating with the White House
.......

for his sellout price.

Posted by: wth at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (v0R5T)

253 Passing the aid bill, although heinous, does somewhat protect the Republicans in the upcoming "Who Lost Ukraine" debate.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 12, 2024 02:50 PM (YAtuc)


------

You know what our politicians shouldn't do? Pass fucking bills because they don't want to catch political flack.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (JeYYB)

254 Then you name names, and damn the consequences. You know, if one actually has a set of balls.
Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:54 PM (wVJoi)

Certain GOP congressional staffers and WH Punchy admin folks just below the head of National Sec have a tendency to hang out together at a certain Spanish tapas joint just up the hill and down to the right from the Capitol - just saying.

I've probably said too much...

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 03:00 PM (K+UlC)

255 Check All Retarded.

Because our shit is ALL RETARDED.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 03:00 PM (JeYYB)

256 Oh, I thought we had a new sane poster here.

Keeping a list? On the back of a gum wrapper?

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 03:01 PM (/y8xj)

257 236 As soon as they make it official, WW3 starts.

There won't be any debates at that point. Everyone will be at war. And the election will be cancelled.

Or maybe not. Maybe the Yellowstone Caldera pops, and saves us all from this orchestrated fustercluck.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:56 PM (dGCAG)

I cannot wait for EVERY Nuclear Power to nuke my small town because it's an East Coast Transporation Hub.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 03:01 PM (UnA8+)

258 So, where are we with TikTok? It has rights, you know.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at April 12, 2024 03:01 PM (NFX2v)

259 We need the House first!

We need the Senate!

Ok...now we need the Papacy!

And then we'll do it.

Posted by: PJ at April 12, 2024 03:01 PM (G1dq6)

260 When do you think The United States was peak United States?

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM (JeYYB)

261 If it's a war that doesn't matter one way or the other, why send any treasure just to not be blamed ? A lot of what goes around here is old Cold War thinking.

I don't have a damn thing to do with the state of my neighbors roof. If he blames me ? If the entire 'hood blames me ? I don't care.
Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (wVJoi)

Ukraine has already lost half a million of its people to this war.

Just so our Deep State, defense contractors, and pols can pad their bank accounts, and protect their secrets in country.

If that's not evil, I don't know what is.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM (dGCAG)

262 So, where are we with TikTok? It has rights, you know.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at April 12, 2024 03:01 PM


Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM (Wnv9h)

263 We need the House first!

We need the Senate!

Ok...now we need the Papacy!

And then we'll do it.


I suppose the Hanseatic League is right out.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM (CsUN+)

264 nood (ew) planet fitness

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM (GBKbO)

265 So, just to cap everything off with a little extra zest, Hamas, the Democrats best friends, have a detailed, written plan to open slave labor and extermination camps for Jews, once they win the war against Israel.

So claims HotGas anyway.

These are the people the Junta supports.
Posted by: The Frumious Follywood at April 12, 2024 02:49 PM (ij0BO)

That's nonsense.

The Jews won't last 2 weeks after a Hamas takeover. You saw what happened last year. It will be that over the entire state.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM (eoQWY)

266 When do you think The United States was peak United States?
Posted by: Seems Legit


Just after we won the War of 1812.

It was all downhill after that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 03:03 PM (9yWhg)

267 260 circa 1956.

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at April 12, 2024 03:03 PM (MvF+J)

268 When do you think The United States was peak United States?
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM


For about half an hour in late 1945.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 03:03 PM (Wnv9h)

269 260 When do you think The United States was peak United States?

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM

1988.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 12, 2024 03:03 PM (+oR7L)

270 Well past the 2020 election and Sundowner has destroyed much of America
Why not admit it was all a hoax? The damage is done

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 03:04 PM (fwDg9)

271 When do you think The United States was peak United States?

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM (JeYYB)


As far as personal liberty or power. Power ? Right after the Soviet Union crumbled. We were the last Super Power standing. Which was the real beginning of the blossom of all our current problems.

As far as liberty, and observance of the original ideals of the founding ? It's all been downhill since Lincoln.

Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 03:04 PM (wVJoi)

272 This johnston idiot has gone from "just a nice guy" to a f-ing traiter.

What good is he?

What difference does he make right now over a democrat controlled house?

Posted by: realityman at April 12, 2024 03:04 PM (xsWV3)

273 Keeping a list? On the back of a gum wrapper?
Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 03:01 PM (/y8xj)

To be perfectly honest, the list I keep is of posters with whom I won't interact.

It's a very small list. One has to be extra special to get on it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 03:04 PM (dGCAG)

274 The federal intelligence apparatus acts with impunity, without even the pretense of effective congressional oversight. Nothing could be clearer than that.

The GOP is fully on board with supporting the deep state, which is just another term for the totalitarian left.

We're so far from constitutional governance, it seems obvious that we'll never get back to it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 12, 2024 03:04 PM (woPEM)

275 242 What happens in the privy stays in the privy.

Posted by: Unlike Vegas



Says who?
Posted by: Tori Spelling at April 12, 2024 02:57 PM (lTGtQ)
----
Investigations into mass shootings in Vegas stay in Vegas too.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, Bird Law Expert at April 12, 2024 03:05 PM (snyZJ)

276 I have custom fainting couches for sale. Matches and Ronson fluid included in the deluxe package for those of you inclined to light fires

Posted by: Outside of Life at April 12, 2024 03:05 PM (89Sog)

277 Better Conservative Syndrome

It's real ... and it majorly blows.


Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 03:05 PM (Vi/lX)

278 Just after we won the War of 1812.

It was all downhill after that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 03:03 PM (9yWhg)

1794, I think? Just before Washington sent the army to put down the Whiskey Rebellion.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 03:07 PM (dGCAG)

279 When do you think The United States was peak United States?
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM (JeYYB)
......

1981 when I was on Ronald Reagan's surf team on Oahu.

Posted by: wth at April 12, 2024 03:07 PM (v0R5T)

280 If it's a war that doesn't matter one way or the other, why send any treasure just to not be blamed ? A lot of what goes around here is old Cold War thinking.

I don't have a damn thing to do with the state of my neighbors roof. If he blames me ? If the entire 'hood blames me ? I don't care.
Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Blackened Soul at April 12, 2024 02:59 PM (wVJoi)

Ukraine has already lost half a million of its people to this war.

Just so our Deep State, defense contractors, and pols can pad their bank accounts, and protect their secrets in country.

If that's not evil, I don't know what is.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 03:02 PM (dGCAG)

The purpose of the Ukraine war was that the idiot elites thought their sanctions would collapse the country and they would have dozens of little Ukraines to lord over all across Asia, forever.

Actually fighting was the plan B, C, and D after that turned out to be total nonsense. Then the military amateurs stepped in with plans for counterattacks to nowhere that couldn't possibly work and did not.

The one constant is the infantry man fighting to the death for the ruins of a village that nobody lives in anymore.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 12, 2024 03:07 PM (eoQWY)

281
You know what our politicians shouldn't do? Pass fucking bills because they don't want to catch political flack.
Posted by: Seems Legit


Then they wouldn't be politicians.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 12, 2024 03:08 PM (63Dwl)

282 What difference does he make right now over a democrat controlled house?
Posted by: realityman at April 12, 2024 03:04 PM (xsWV3)

But if Jeffries is Speaker, the Biden admin with get everything it wants!

Oh wait...

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 03:09 PM (dGCAG)

283 When do you think The United States was peak United States?
Posted by: Seems Legit

1966-67

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 12, 2024 03:10 PM (3vcct)

284 The purpose of the Ukraine war was that the idiot elites thought their sanctions would collapse the country and they would have dozens of little Ukraines to lord over all across Asia, forever.

Actually fighting was the plan B, C, and D after that turned out to be total nonsense. Then the military amateurs stepped in with plans for counterattacks to nowhere that couldn't possibly work and did not.

The one constant is the infantry man fighting to the death for the ruins of a village that nobody lives in anymore.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 12, 2024 03:07 PM (eoQWY)

Yeah, I think if the DC crowd was surprised at all, it was the fact that Russia didn't fall apart.

I'm not sure why they thought it woud. Hubris is the best explanation. There's a lot of that going around these days.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 03:12 PM (dGCAG)

285 It was a major inflection point when Putin called Obama's bluff. Democrats magically became anti-Russia after defending them for decades. That meant Republicans had to be attacked as pro-Russian and a new Great Party Switch hoax was born.

Ace has a great memory. It is surprising other media never talk about this important event.

Posted by: wodun at April 12, 2024 03:12 PM (pVZ/7)

286 Trump-Hating Former Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe FINALLY Comes Clean After Years of Lying – Says Carter Page FISA Application to Spy on Trump Was “Wrong” and a “Mistake” (VIDEO)
---------

The mistake was getting caught.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 03:12 PM (yGFFs)

287 Rest assured, when these cretins miss the next 9/11….or maybe Oct 7 style attack,- and they certainly will - they’ll come demanding even more surveillance powers. And get them too.

Posted by: Trump at April 12, 2024 03:21 PM (OHBll)

288 David Harsanyi commented the other day that the Democrats are in the minority but are getting more done than the Republicans, who constantly point out that they "only" have a slim majority.

Posted by: Heresolong at April 12, 2024 04:40 PM (FSbq+)

289 Every human being who eats because of a check from the federal government is your mortal enemy.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at April 12, 2024 05:21 PM (TtBHe)

290 Tell me the government isn't our enemy.

Posted by: Fred at April 12, 2024 05:39 PM (bXvrr)

291 "Hey everyone get out there and vote like dopes!"

When you stop voting, you get what you want! We evicted Maduro this way!

Posted by: Venezuelan opposition at April 12, 2024 05:50 PM (9isyS)

292 Johnson must go. He is compromised. What a sack of shit.

Posted by: Rope a GOPe at April 12, 2024 06:39 PM (03Uyc)

293 Tell me the government isn't our enemy.
* * *
Brace yourself, it is our biggest enemy. Not Putin, not the mullahs, not Kim Jong Un, not Xi, but them.

Posted by: Rope a GOPe at April 12, 2024 06:42 PM (03Uyc)

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