THE MORNING RANT: Re-thinking Charitable Giving to Foundations

I’ve been meaning to write about the problems with foundations for some time, but I’ve just never gotten around to it, because there are so many awful stories to tell, so many facets to the problem, and so much research that could be done for a good long-form essay. Since that great essay I’ve intended to write apparently isn’t ever going to get written, I’d just like to highlight a few thoughts I have about my disdain for foundations, and suggest that you make sure any foundation you are donating to is using your money as you prefer. Or, as an alternative, you might consider donating directly to charitable organizations that will spend your donation rather than investing it.

Here are a few of my biggest problems with foundations.

1) Long-established foundations get hijacked by activists, and no matter what the original purpose of the foundation was, in time it will be used for left-wing activism. John Rockefeller and Henry Ford never intended for the foundations they established with their fortunes to eventually become anti-American funding sources that promote global communism and “climate justice,” but that is what their money is being used for now.

2) Local foundations established to support worthwhile charities eventually tend to redirect their focus toward money management and compensation for those managing the investments. The actual money that makes it to the charity tends to be doled out grudgingly, and only after all the administrative expenses of the foundation (including salaries) are subtracted from the minimum required distribution. Let’s say a foundation has a $20,000,000 portfolio and it is required to distribute 5% for its annual distribution, or $1,000,000. After the salaries, travel, and other expenses of those managing the money are paid, just a few hundred thousand dollars may make it to the actual charity in a given year.

3) “Charitable” foundations established by affluent individuals are used as a way to launder their travel and living expenses as tax deductions.

The great Oilfield Rando has a hilarious example of Number 3:

Oilfield Rando - Whole Systems Foundation - 1.JPG

Here is the link where Mr. Rando found that story of nautical philanthropy.

Oilfield Rando - Whole Systems Foundation - 2.JPG

I gave plenty of money to various foundations over the years until I began to understand how little of my money was getting to the intended charity. No more. Rather than give to the (hypothetical) “Widows and Orphans Foundation,” I will now only donate directly to the operations of the Widows and Orphans organization itself. A $1,000 gift to the operating fund of the charity will provide it with $1,000 dollars to use this year, whereas a $1,000 donation to its associated foundation might result in perhaps $20 or $30 making it to the actual charity this year.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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Posted by: A Question Mark at April 12, 2024 11:00 AM (lf83v)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at April 12, 2024 11:01 AM (fACYj)

3 Yo

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 12, 2024 11:01 AM (Q4IgG)

4 Willowed:

Ties in nicely.

I would totally scam money from stupid people if I were imaginative enough and cynical enough to come up with a way to.

Posted by: Oddbob

I got the cynic part covered.
Posted by: BignJames

Learn how to make a million dollars.
Send $1 dollar to BR5-49.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:02 AM (i8ZU2)

5 Good topic.

The start of this was opening up United Way and the Combined Federal Campaign to leftist NGOs in the 1980s.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 12, 2024 11:02 AM (u82oZ)

6 Far too many foundations and charitable organizations appear to be a scam of some sort.

Best to give where you *know for a fact* that the money will be put to good use.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 12, 2024 11:02 AM (7fElN)

7 I go a step farther...I will check the charity's ratings with Charity Navigator and Charity Watch and make sure they aren't pissing away money.

There are plenty of charities that suck.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 12, 2024 11:03 AM (gSZYf)

8 Biggest scams typically include:
- animals
- kids
- climate/pollution
- politics

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 12, 2024 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)

9 What a total rookie!

Absolutely right Buck, NGOs and 'Foundations' are money making or money sheltering schemes for the rick and want to be rich.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 11:03 AM (B2cfh)

10 I give to the Clinton Foundation because they are a charitable foundation that would never scam me.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 12, 2024 11:04 AM (lf83v)

11 Oilfield Rando just described every PBS cooking show in recent years. We can't just stay in the studio! We need to travel the world meeting indigenous people and cooking while playing tourist and staying at the Hilton. But mostly playing tourist and staying at the Hilton.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:04 AM (Wnv9h)

12 Biggest scams typically include:
- animals
- kids
- climate/pollution
- politics
Posted by: Martini Farmer

And Catholic Charities, CC *might* help others; but, they really fund alien invaders.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 11:05 AM (B2cfh)

13 I gave plenty of money to various foundations over the years until I began to understand how little of my money was getting to the intended charity.

Hang out behind your local PETA chapter. Count how may euthanized dogs are thrown in the dumpster.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:05 AM (i8ZU2)

14 After Katrina, I tried to give a brand new, never used, generator to both SA and Red Cross...nope, they wanted cash...fuck 'em.

Posted by: BignJames at April 12, 2024 11:05 AM (AwYPR)

15 Yeah, I do the same as Buck; if I want to give money away (and I do a lot), I pick a deserving person or sometimes deserving animals, and give directly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 12, 2024 11:05 AM (xcxpd)

16 Grifters gonna grift. Eventually, they will run out of other people's money to spend.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at April 12, 2024 11:06 AM (JNTt1)

17 > And Catholic Charities, CC *might* help others; but, they really fund alien invaders.
__________

Bigly. And child/sex trafficking.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 12, 2024 11:06 AM (Q4IgG)

18 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

19 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:06 AM (Wnv9h)

20 And Catholic Charities, CC *might* help others; but, they really fund alien invaders.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 11:05 AM (B2cfh)

I think they are being blackmailed.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 12, 2024 11:07 AM (R4t5M)

21 One simply needs to look at the salaries of those employed by the foundation.

For example:

The Susan G. Komen breast cancer organization gives only 20% of their donations to cancer research and pays their CEO $684,000 per year.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

22 Send $1 dollar to BR5-49.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:02 AM

I must have missed this meme. What's BR5-49? (other than $20)

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (Wnv9h)

23 Biggest scams typically include:
- animals

They always run those abandoned and abused pets ads during Svengoolie, because they know there will be kiddies watching who will have the sadz and then nag their parents to contribute.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (9yWhg)

24 I used to donate to the Salvation Army until they had their woke spell a couple years ago.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (63Dwl)

25 Good post, Buck.

+1

Posted by: Subway at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (GIzpt)

26 And don't forget Haitian Earthquake Relief!
Very rewarding.

Posted by: hillary sez at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (MeG8a)

27 Oh that.? Thats just terrorists transporting weapons and troops back of a Red Cross truck.

-Nothing to see here

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (9wvmw)

28 I must have missed this meme. What's BR5-49? (other than $20)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (Wnv9h)

Hee Haw......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

29 Um, CBD.

https://is.gd/X6O1uN

Posted by: I am the Shadout Maps, the Housekeeper at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (PiwSw)

30 United Way.
Grifters extraordinaire.

Original DEI/ESG-style scammers in the corporate environment.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (ufFY8)

31 A lot of charities want you to sign up donating on a subscription basis. Good luck canceling it out if you find out it's shaky or you fall on hard times.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (0EOe9)

32 Billionaire Chuck Feeney famously had to sue his own foundation to get them to give his money away as planned.

He wanted to give it all away rather than turn it into a permanent sinecure for the staff, and they thought it would be better for them to be employed for life.

Posted by: The Frumious Follywood at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (ij0BO)

33 Catholic Charites is one of the biggies giving the illegals everything they need to be comfy.

Listened to an interview yesterday with the WI guy from Dane county running for Senate against Tammy wheelchair.

Said there's a town in WI population 13,000 into which Biden has flown in, directly, no wading the Rio Grande, but direct from Capetown or whereever the fuck, 1,000 illegals.

Said it's happening everywhere out there in flyoverland.

And Catholic Charities is there for them. I'll bet they get Fed tax dollars for this. It ain't from the collection baskets.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (KiBMU)

34 I donate regularly to my favorite charity.
Me.

Posted by: RI Red at April 12, 2024 11:09 AM (Gnh01)

35 Long-established foundations get hijacked by activists,
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I propose we start using the term "colonized" rather than hijacked.

Because it's not only what they accuse their enemies of doing, it's actually what they do.

Moreover, colonization can theoretically be stopped if recognized, whereas a hijacking would be far more difficult to strategize against.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 11:09 AM (yGFFs)

36 When these professional fundraisers call. Like the police fund, etc. Ask them what percentage goes to the actual charity. By law they have to tell you. It's usually something criminal like 5%. I tell them they ought to be ashamed and GFY. I'll donate directly to certain things, starting with my church. Same with politicians. I won't give to the RNC, local rep committee etc. I'll give to one I truly support directly. So many "charities" and foundations are made to simply pay the staff salaries. The United Way comes to mind. And the Red Cross has seen my last dime with their helping illegals. Fuck them in particular.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 12, 2024 11:09 AM (Ag7IE)

37 Hee Haw......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM

Thanks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:09 AM (Wnv9h)

38 Sponge, thanks for posting the Anne-Margaret clip on the last thread. Best use that baked beans have ever been put to.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:09 AM (9yWhg)

39 You can set up a tax exempt foundation to just f**k off and go yachting...

See? That's exactly what I was talking about. Even if I could have dreamt that up, I wouldn't have had the stones to actually try to get away with it. I'm simultaneously disgusted by and in awe of people like that.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 11:09 AM (/y8xj)

40 Far too many foundations and charitable organizations appear to be a scam of some sort.

Best to give where you *know for a fact* that the money will be put to good use.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Instead of helping unwed mothers, I give directly to the women on the pole.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:10 AM (i8ZU2)

41 The shelter I got Ajax from as a puppy. She ran it out of a barn/workshop on her pretty nice property. The dogs and puppies were kept warm and it was obvious she took all in and tried to care for them. Speaking to her, she said she had another house where she had cats (I am deathly allergic, so no.)

Some might say she was a rich white woman who was just playing but she was living her ideals at least.

Posted by: Subway at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (GIzpt)

42 Catholic Charities works hand in hand with the State Department and INS to facilitate the transportation of "migrants" (adults and kids) from all over the 3rd world to the US.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)

43 36 So many "charities" and foundations are made to simply pay the staff salaries. The United Way comes to mind. And the Red Cross has seen my last dime with their helping illegals. Fuck them in particular.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 12, 2024 11:09 AM (Ag7IE)

========

*furiously takes notes*
-David Hogg

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)

44 I must have missed this meme. What's BR5-49? (other than $20)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Junior Samples Used Car Lot from Hee-Haw.

You really aren't 29 yet, are you?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (i8ZU2)

45 So many "charities" and foundations are made to simply pay the staff salaries. The United Way comes to mind. And the Red Cross has seen my last dime with their helping illegals. Fuck them in particular.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Check out what 'Goodwill' pays their board.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (B2cfh)

46 Everything is a grift and/or an op.

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (tpjlM)

47 Instead of helping unwed mothers, I give directly to the women on the pole.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:10 AM

You know we haven't seen a dime of that, right?

- Local nursing schools

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (Wnv9h)

48 Lutheran Charities has a pretty long track record of aiding the new arrivals. Sioux Falls SD had a large bunch of Somalis (IIRC) come in courtesy of LC.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:12 AM (0EOe9)

49
And Catholic Charities is there for them. I'll bet they get Fed tax dollars for this. It ain't from the collection baskets.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM

There was a Supreme Court decision a year or so ago where some Catholic organization won the case 9 - 0.

Made me think something was up.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 12, 2024 11:12 AM (RKVpM)

50
Is it a prominent institution in America?

Scam. Perhaps a truly malevolent scam. Probably a truly malevolent scam. But definitely a scam. No question.

There. I just completed your research on any charity or anything else.

I'll go ahead and add a corollary to Hoffer's maxim about causes starting as movements, becoming businesses and degenerating into rackets... When the cause is a nation state (the US is the first of this type) there is a fourth stage where the racket becomes an all-consuming, omnipresent racket that chews up and shits out the entire society in pursuit of the next scam payout.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 12, 2024 11:12 AM (0FoWg)

51 Instead of helping unwed mothers, I give directly to the women on the pole.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:10 AM (i8ZU2)

Thank you for your support!

Posted by: Tiffany Slink, President International Sisterhood of Brass Pole Workers at April 12, 2024 11:12 AM (ufFY8)

52
*furiously takes notes*
-David Hogg
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)

Speaking of......

https://is.gd/ge0TAl

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

53
I pick a deserving person or sometimes deserving animals, and give directly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

See a doggie on the street
Give that pooch a piece of meat

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 12, 2024 11:12 AM (63Dwl)

54 You really aren't 29 yet, are you?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM

Definitely 29. I just didn't watch Hee Haw as a kid.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:13 AM (Wnv9h)

55 Many Catholic “charities” take in millions from the feds to settle so called refugees. Fuck that noise.

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:13 AM (tpjlM)

56 I donate regularly to my favorite charity.
Me.
Posted by: RI Red

Every two weeks. Like clockwork.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:13 AM (i8ZU2)

57 See a doggie on the street
Give that pooch a piece of meat
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 12, 2024 11:12 AM

Burma Shave!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:13 AM (Wnv9h)

58 When these professional fundraisers call. Like the police fund, etc.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 12, 2024 11:09 AM (Ag7IE)
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There's a "Policeman's Benevolence Association" that calls me from time to time asking, "Is Kim there?"

He's called me numerous times (same voice) and he knows good and well that there's nobody by that name attached to my phone number.

Starting off by using deceptive practices to talk to me is not going to win you any charity points from me.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 12, 2024 11:14 AM (7fElN)

59 Instead of helping unwed mothers, I give directly to the women on the pole.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:10 AM

You know we haven't seen a dime of that, right?

- Local nursing schools
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

I tried giving atwerk.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:14 AM (i8ZU2)

60 I watched Hee Haw. Mammaw and Pappaw loved it. I did not get a lot of the jokes.

Posted by: Subway at April 12, 2024 11:14 AM (GIzpt)

61 See a doggie on the street
Give that pooch a piece of meat

—

Amen brother!!
- Zombie Johnie Cochran

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:14 AM (tpjlM)

62 And Catholic Charities is there for them. I'll bet they get Fed tax dollars for this. It ain't from the collection baskets.
_____

CC has a annual appeal where they talk about all the local programs. I'm sure there is a lot of very good work being done to help people in my community who really need the help. But, they are taking money from the Feds for their illegal human trafficking. So they will no longer get any money from me. I'll figure out a way to give the money I would have given to CC to these orgs directly.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 12, 2024 11:15 AM (KSkEK)

63 Also:
The standard exemption for married filing jointly is now $29,200. This year my itemized deductions only totaled $27,000 or so.

Posted by: Ed at April 12, 2024 11:15 AM (DGlaL)

64 See a doggie on the street
Give that pooch a piece of meat
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 12, 2024 11:12 AM

Burma Shave!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

😳😳😳 You ARE 29!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:15 AM (i8ZU2)

65 Wounded Warrior Project:

Expenses totaled $270 million (not including depreciation) in 2018, with 70% of revenue spent on compensation, direct response mail, television, and on-line expenses, grants, and program/other provider services.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

66 My old Polish landlady was a big RC church lady. She used to recruit me to do some grocery deliveries for the church food bank. I had to drop some stuff off at the Catholic Charities office, and the waiting room was like being in the Balkans.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:16 AM (0EOe9)

67 😳😳😳 You ARE 29!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:15 AM

Ayuh.

*guards lawn*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:16 AM (Wnv9h)

68 When I donated some pizzas to the IDF during the Intifada in the mid-aughts, the local Jewish Federation got hold of my name and I've been on their solicitation list ever since even though I've never given them a dime.

I admire their tenacity.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 12, 2024 11:16 AM (T+Iwg)

69 Charity had its time and place in a world without welfare. Today? No longer needed. Any “poor” person can access a gazillion government programs to provide them a very nice life. Hell we’ve all seen the “poor” people using EBT and driving a nicer car than the people paying taxes for it.

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:16 AM (tpjlM)

70 When these professional fundraisers call. Like the police fund, etc.
Posted by: Minnfidel

State Troopers Support Group. Even get a nice sticker for your car window. So they KNOW who has money.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:16 AM (i8ZU2)

71 And Catholic Charities is there for them. I'll bet they get Fed tax dollars for this. It ain't from the collection baskets.

they hire a ton of lawyers too, to fill out those immigration forms

Posted by: brak at April 12, 2024 11:17 AM (25k9m)

72 Fantastic write up.

100% this.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at April 12, 2024 11:17 AM (6DNWY)

73 "Momma needs a Lamborghini."

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at April 12, 2024 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

74 Say no to Catholic Charities, Goodwill, Red Cross and Salvation Army... Yes to Samaritans Purse and St. Jude's.

Posted by: It's me donna at April 12, 2024 11:17 AM (Akjoo)

75 The only foundations I'm truly interested in is what used to be called "Ladies foundations" in department stores.

My dear Mrs. and I have decided we are spending down our nest egg by giving directly to those (smallish) local orgs that promote the type of help to those truly in need. We are blessed that within our county, there are a number of such places.

Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, care for the lost and the lonely - that sort of thing.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 11:17 AM (WXNFJ)

76 I would have given to CC to these orgs directly.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

You can donate to your church by donating for specific items: Church Maintenance, Easter Flowers (or any Religious Feast Day).
I was told that if you specify nothing gets sent 'uphill' but, stays in the parish.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 11:17 AM (B2cfh)

77 The standard exemption for married filing jointly is now $29,200. This year my itemized deductions only totaled $27,000 or so.
Posted by: Ed at April 12, 2024 11:15 AM (DGlaL)

Wow is it $29k? It was $24k in 2017. So at least that’s keeping up with inflation.

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:18 AM (tpjlM)

78 Check out what 'Goodwill' pays their board

Any suggestions on where else to dump my slightly useless junk?

Posted by: Chuck C at April 12, 2024 11:18 AM (yOPBE)

79 I've had my eye on this phenomenon for a while. Whenever I see funding for some suspect cause, I trace it back and it usually ends up coming from some Foundation set up 50-100 years ago by someone who is now dead and rolling in his grave over where the money is going today. The long term stock market boom has empowered this behaviour bigly.

Jim Casey, founder of UPS is like this. He was very charitable and set up Casey Family Foundation with a pretty narrow purpose.

No Problem! Channel a large part of the money into the Annie E Casey Foundation, named after his mother, and go totally woke with it. aecf.org is worth a surf.

Posted by: scottst at April 12, 2024 11:19 AM (qcvs8)

80 78 Check out what 'Goodwill' pays their board

Any suggestions on where else to dump my slightly useless junk?
Posted by: Chuck C at April 12, 2024 11:18 AM (yOPBE)

Locally we have some small orgs like one that benefits Veterans and even one for cats and dogs

Posted by: It's me donna at April 12, 2024 11:20 AM (Akjoo)

81 Any suggestions on where else to dump my slightly useless junk?

list it as free on Craigslist. if there are any immigrants in your area they'll take it all in minutes

Posted by: brak at April 12, 2024 11:20 AM (25k9m)

82 And Catholic Charities, CC *might* help others; but, they really fund alien invaders.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

And not a ****ing dime to Catholic Charities I might add. Our parish is vehemently against them and their evil works.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 11:20 AM (WXNFJ)

83 Yes to Samaritans Purse and St. Jude's.
Posted by: It's me donna

Can't stand the St. Jude's ads. Using those poor, sick kids for fundraising. I have no use for that kind of unseemly thing. Even if they compensate the families, it's still exploitation in my mind.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:20 AM (9yWhg)

84 *pulls Escalade up to food bank*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 12, 2024 11:20 AM (R4t5M)

85 After 9/11 I gave generously to the Red Cross later to find out they pocketed huge sums. I used to give to United way until they said they wouldn’t give to the BSA. Then my last refuge of charitable giving was the Salvation Army but then they told me I was horrible and they hated me so they are cut off.

This has made me feel bad about my ignorance of these commie orgs but freed up lots of dollars for my armory. I woke up late but better than never.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 12, 2024 11:21 AM (17s+e)

86 And yet you have people like Dave Ramsey who best people over the head with “10% to charity” bullshit. The right can be very stupid a lot of the time.

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:21 AM (tpjlM)

87 74 Say no to Catholic Charities, Goodwill, Red Cross and Salvation Army... Yes to Samaritans Purse and St. Jude's.
Posted by: It's me donna at April 12, 2024 11:17 AM (Akjoo)

We've stopped donating to CC. There is a lot of good that they do locally. But as long as that organization usurps our nation's laws and facilitates illegal immigration because of all the federal $$$, then they don't need (or get) any of my money.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 12, 2024 11:21 AM (N39Ws)

88 Can't stand the St. Jude's ads. Using those poor, sick kids for fundraising. I have no use for that kind of unseemly thing. Even if they compensate the families, it's still exploitation in my mind.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:20 AM (9yWhg)

Ignore the ads, they do great work and most if not all the donation money goes to the Kids not the "Administrators. "

Posted by: It's me donna at April 12, 2024 11:21 AM (Akjoo)

89 ARC, or any other local thrift store.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 11:22 AM (B2cfh)

90 and even one for cats and dogs
Posted by: It's me donna

We have a used-stuff shop near us that donates its profits to pet charities.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:22 AM (9yWhg)

91 Check out what 'Goodwill' pays their board
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Any suggestions on where else to dump my slightly useless junk?

Depends. Is your primary motivation charity or getting rid of your junk? Because Goodwill is still perfectly workable for the latter.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 11:22 AM (/y8xj)

92 Wounded Warrior Project:
Expenses totaled $270 million (not including depreciation) in 2018, with 70% of revenue spent on compensation, direct response mail, television, and on-line expenses, grants, and program/other provider services.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

Say no to Catholic Charities, Goodwill, Red Cross and Salvation Army... Yes to Samaritans Purse and St. Jude's.
Posted by: It's me donna at April 12, 2024 11:17 AM (Akjoo)

Was going to say I've been considering donating to WWP and St. Jude's.

And now I have my answer. Thank you.

Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at April 12, 2024 11:22 AM (JCLJi)

93 Any suggestions on where else to dump my slightly useless junk?
Posted by: Chuck C

Restore arm of Habitat for Humanity is pretty good around here. Their used building material stock is first rate and many folks fix up their homes using goods from them for cheap.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM (WXNFJ)

94 I go a step farther...I will check the charity's ratings with Charity Navigator and Charity Watch and make sure they aren't pissing away money.

There are plenty of charities that suck.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 12, 2024 11:03 AM (gSZYf)

Heh. Here's one for the books: yesterday, I was on my way into WalMart for some groceries, and had to stop for some dude in a wheelchair crossing the street. He wasn't wheeling the chair in the usual fashion; he had the footrests up, and was scurrying vigorously with his feet. Making good time, too.

Coming out of WM, I saw him set up on the corner by the parking lot exit ramp, with a cardboard begging sign. Just a bum and a faker.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM (tkR6S)

95 I donate to my local humane society. Not the national organization, the actual local place. And I know the people there aren’t living large or anything. Sometimes I’ll go to Costco and buy $200 worth of dog food and bring it over. Things like that which I know goes directly to help the cause.

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM (tpjlM)

96 You get a blanket! And you get a blanket! And you.....

Posted by: Oprahpottamus at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM (R4t5M)

97 86 And yet you have people like Dave Ramsey who best people over the head with “10% to charity” bullshit. The right can be very stupid a lot of the time.
Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:21 AM (tpjlM)

Nothing wrong with donating to charity. I think it is important to give back. But it does require people to be smart to who they give their money too.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM (N39Ws)

98 It's 2024 and the only charity I care about is the Big Fat Meanie Foundation.

Can't you spare .36 per day to ensure an ample supply of bacon for a middle aged veteran?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM (YIxO9)

99 Shriners Children's hospitals are great too...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM (Akjoo)

100 My husband and I worked for a company that did fund raisers for cop and fire groups. People would get ticked off when you told them 20% went to the group. No one seemed to be getting rich and there are expenses involved (like setting up the phones for the phone room, hiring people, etc).

I used to give just to Samaritans Purse as they seem to try and help people in their own country. I like Hope for Paws and St. Louis Rescue for animals, but give to my local food bank too, both people and animal food.

Then, there is my payback fund. When my first husband died, a blogger I knew sent me a check for $1000. She told me to use it and if I didn't need it, to spread it around. I have been trying, ever since, to try and spread whatever I can around. And if I make a bad choice sometimes, I'm okay with that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 12, 2024 11:24 AM (yeEu9)

101 I admire their tenacity.

Forty years ago, when I was young and naive, I gave some money to SPLC. (Correction: Forty years ago when I was young and naive and extremely stupid). I have moved three times since then, haven't sent them a dime in 35+ years, and I still occasionally get junk mail from them.

Posted by: Chuck C at April 12, 2024 11:24 AM (yOPBE)

102 My United Way wakeup was in the '80s when William Aramony was living large and our company had a "we have already committed to 100% participation, so you need to make that happen" fundraising drive.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Maps, the Housekeeper at April 12, 2024 11:24 AM (PiwSw)

103 Posted by: It's me donna at April 12, 2024 11:17 AM (Akjoo)

Was going to say I've been considering donating to WWP and St. Jude's.

And now I have my answer. Thank you.
Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at April 12, 2024 11:22 AM (JCLJi)

DAV, I've heard, is a better org to give money to than WWP.

A former Marine bud of mine HATES WWP....says they're worthless grifters.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

104 Nothing wrong with donating to charity. I think it is important to give back. But it does require people to be smart to who they give their money too.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM

This. Sadly, the feds and state are making it harder and harder to give. With costs going up and them wanting evermore tax money. It's hard.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 12, 2024 11:25 AM (Ag7IE)

105 Cops and firefighters are very well paid and have beyond generous pensions, all while being able to retire in their 50s.

Why do they need my charity donations exactly?

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:25 AM (tpjlM)

106 95 I donate to my local humane society. Not the national organization, the actual local place. And I know the people there aren’t living large or anything. Sometimes I’ll go to Costco and buy $200 worth of dog food and bring it over. Things like that which I know goes directly to help the cause.
Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM (tpjlM)

We donate to an animal rescue organization in NH. Strictly a small time local group that cares for animals, especially ones that can't be adopted out. And the more I see and learn about people, the more I grow to love animals (4 legged kind)

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 12, 2024 11:25 AM (N39Ws)

107 Morning.

It's fraud all the way down.

Posted by: Robert at April 12, 2024 11:25 AM (Z2yLo)

108 "3) “Charitable” foundations established by affluent individuals are used as a way to launder their travel and living expenses as tax deductions."

Oh it's way more than that. The ultra-rich often "donate" a lot of their money to the charity. Which seems generous. Until you realize it's just a huge tax dodge and while technically the money is no longer under their control, they control the "charity" so as a practical matter they control the money. It's a total scam and tax dodge.

Bill Gates has long been notorious for this. More recently, Zuckerberg did the same. Incredibly, he was praised for his alleged generosity by idiots who have no clue what the real purpose was.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 12, 2024 11:26 AM (iFTx/)

109 Some of the foundations that have been around a long time have interesting stories. One I read up on is the Lotta Crabtree foundation. She was a famous entertainer before and during the vaudeville days, made a ton of money, and started a perpetuating fund for various do good things. The fund is still in existence.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:26 AM (0EOe9)

110 ARC, or any other local thrift store.
Posted by: AZ

I forgot St Vincent DePaul thrift.
Here in Phx they built a place to help people get back on their feet. They help them clean up, give them a place to stay for a limited time and help them write resumes, and get to interviews. They also help families.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 11:26 AM (B2cfh)

111
Giving alms does not mean giving to some middleman.
Charitable sacrifices are meant to be made directly to a needy individual.

There, but for the grace of God, go I.

Posted by: Speller at April 12, 2024 11:26 AM (pSotA)

112 I wonder if Trace Atkins draws a paycheck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 12, 2024 11:26 AM (R4t5M)

113 and even one for cats and dogs
Posted by: It's me donna
*
We have a used-stuff shop near us that donates its profits to pet charities.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024

***
We used to have one -- but it closed during the Sniffle Scare.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 12, 2024 11:27 AM (J2vNu)

114 32 Billionaire Chuck Feeney famously had to sue his own foundation to get them to give his money away as planned.

He wanted to give it all away rather than turn it into a permanent sinecure for the staff, and they thought it would be better for them to be employed for life.
Posted by: The Frumious Follywood at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (ij0BO)

The John M. Olin Foundation was famously set up to shut down after it gave all its money away. Olin was a big supporter of conservative causes, and his trustees made sure that's where the money went.

It's a shame there's not another conservative org like that one, but I'm glad that it completed its mission and closed down.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 12, 2024 11:28 AM (vKKQx)

115 I mostly donate to animal causes. I'm not sure humans are worth saving.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:28 AM (dGCAG)

116 NGOs/Non-Profits are the best money making opportunities available to most people now, though to really get the cycle working you need to get government funding.

Almost all of the left is funded this way.

It is also way leftists in the government/corporations have no fear about doing crazy leftwing crap. In the unlikely event they do get fired they'll just get a no-show job at higher pay at an NGO/Non-profit.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 12, 2024 11:28 AM (ibTVg)

117 How can I donate to the Joe Mannix Fund for the Propagation of Boobage Pics?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:28 AM (9yWhg)

118 It's 2024 and the only charity I care about is the Big Fat Meanie Foundation.

Can't you spare .36 per day to ensure an ample supply of bacon for a middle aged veteran?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

So Bugs Meany (a/k/a "Big Fat Meanie"), we meet again!

Posted by: Encyclopedia Brown at April 12, 2024 11:28 AM (yOPBE)

119 Our local fire departments do some sort of charity drive a couple times a year. Thing is, they'll setup in the middle of the fucking road, complete with a fire engine or two, a pop-up canopy and lawn chairs. You literally have to drive through this shit, windows up, at 3MPH to avoid their spiel.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (Q4IgG)

120 My "retired" Husband works part time at a dog rescue that rescues dogs from Mexico and parts Of CA. Compassion without borders.. They do fantastic work

Posted by: It's me donna at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (Akjoo)

121 Is the Human Fund still in operation?

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (tpjlM)

122 Charity begins at home.

Even in the Church...I give my bishop 1/52 what I give my local Church and the pope 1/52 of that (yes, the pope doesn't get much). My Church allows me to have a say in the charitable giving (if I want) and is responsive to the local community, so I help that.

My only exception to non-local giving is for my cancer...and I don't give a lot, and I only give to my 2 exact cancer groups (not "generic cancer" ones) but I feel like even if it is misspent, it's still for my cancer and it hopefully will help my kids (b/c my cancer can run in families)...or even myself.

Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (exHjb)

123 Any charity foundation would be wildly successful if they put something in their mission statement that guaranteed a minimum of 85% of donations would go directly to the intended support.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

124 Any large organization eventually becomes corrupt.

The Government giving your money to a charity, is using the threat of violence, to steal your money.

Put those two together, and we need a reset in our Government.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (xaFKb)

125 Trump fucked all these yuppy panhandlers when he raised the standard deduction for middle-class couples to $22k.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (wBaIH)

126 for just $1 a day, you can help keep Hillary dressed in stylish mumus and inebriated on the finest chardonnays

won't you give today?

Posted by: The Clinton Foundation at April 12, 2024 11:30 AM (25k9m)

127 But we'll give you a nifty tote bag.

Posted by: NPR at April 12, 2024 11:30 AM (Tz8Uw)

128 All such operations must be, dismantled, their assets seized and their employees and donors charged with treason and executed or exiled.

Posted by: JoshO at April 12, 2024 11:30 AM (LmUpe)

129 Is the Human Fund still in operation?

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (tpjlM)

You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar, when I met you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

130 Our local fire departments do some sort of charity drive a couple times a year. Thing is, they'll setup in the middle of the fucking road, complete with a fire engine or two, a pop-up canopy and lawn chairs. You literally have to drive through this shit, windows up, at 3MPH to avoid their spiel.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

And they walk among traffic holding fire boots that you're supposed to drop contributions into. Annoys the eff out of me.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:31 AM (9yWhg)

131 93 Tonypete, those Habitat for Humanity thrift stores are great. My Brit friend and I outfitted a few apartments for next to nothing shopping there. You find stuff not even building related. Appliances, sometimes furniture, you name it. Used to be my go to place for weird size doors and windows.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:31 AM (0EOe9)

132 It's 2024 and the only charity I care about is the Big Fat Meanie Foundation.

Can't you spare .36 per day to ensure an ample supply of bacon for a middle aged veteran?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 12, 2024 11:23 AM (YIxO9)

You can't believe everything you hear on the internet, but I was told the BFM Foundation was using vegan bacon, so I stopped donating.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:31 AM (dGCAG)

133 "Lutheran Charities has a pretty long track record of aiding the new arrivals. Sioux Falls SD had a large bunch of Somalis (IIRC) come in courtesy of LC."

There must be accountability for every dollar spent, but BigGov seems to pour money into helping the invasion.

IF some of those Christian charities were actually training these people to become "Good Americans" and Christian even, perhaps it would be less bad. But my guess is they are just building base camps for terrorists, or for the cartels.

In a sane country, Biden would be impeached and removed for covertly flying illegals across the border and into ? small or medium sized towns, forced to "adopt" them.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 12, 2024 11:31 AM (Cus5s)

134 I think all charities are scams and grift operations. If you want to help, then donate your time or provide hard goods the charity needs. For example, you can get involved in your local animal humane society or donate canned goods (food) or other necessities. I think if you donate money to even legitimate charities, that money gets sucked up before it ever reaches the intended beneficiaries.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 12, 2024 11:32 AM (iFTx/)

135 123 Any charity foundation would be wildly successful if they put something in their mission statement that guaranteed a minimum of 85% of donations would go directly to the intended support.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

My wife and I helped out Scott Harrison when he started Charity:Water (our church at the time was heavily involved as well, which is how we met him. They committed to give 100% of all donations to the building of water wells, and held separate, high-profile fundraisers to finance the operations. They became very successful doing that, and were a model of an alternate financing system for nonprofits.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 12, 2024 11:32 AM (vKKQx)

136 The Captain Obvious Foundation for the Propagation of Obviousness is rarin' to go!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 11:33 AM (Be/+i)

137 You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar, when I met you.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

That was your first mistake. She's going to whore it up, but then tell you she still loves you.

Do. Not. Believe. It.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:34 AM (dGCAG)

138 Good post , Buck. "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business and eventually degenerates into a racket" . We are at the racket stage for mist of these charity/not for profits. Tax all not affiliated with a religious institution.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 12, 2024 11:34 AM (ixVYR)

139 129 Is the Human Fund still in operation?

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (tpjlM)

You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar, when I met you.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)

You know I can't believe when I hear that you won't see me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 12, 2024 11:34 AM (xcxpd)

140 The start of this was opening up United Way and the Combined Federal Campaign to leftist NGOs in the 1980s.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 12, 2024 11:02 AM (u82oZ)

Yup.
I hated CFC time and the push for 100%. Looked at who.was getting the money and just said Eff It. Put down the minimum and designated the Red Cross.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 12, 2024 11:35 AM (W/lyH)

141 Lutheran Charities has a pretty long track record of aiding the new arrivals. Sioux Falls SD had a large bunch of Somalis (IIRC) come in courtesy of LC.

One of the biggest Eid (Muslim holiday) celebrations in America is located at . . . the Mall of America in the Twin Cities. Every year multiple arrests are made due to violence (religion of peace).

Thanks Lutheran Charities!

Posted by: brak at April 12, 2024 11:35 AM (25k9m)

142 123 Any charity foundation would be wildly successful if they put something in their mission statement that guaranteed a minimum of 85% of donations would go directly to the intended support.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

I used to personally volunteer at a food bank here (pre-kid) that gave 97% of their donations out to the poor. They had so little overhead and brought on volunteers to do a lot of the work of logistics (to get food there, to organize it, to fill boxes, etc). Loved that charity and should give to them again, b/c I don't have time to give anymore right now.

Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 11:35 AM (exHjb)

143 Depends. Is your primary motivation charity or getting rid of your junk? Because Goodwill is still perfectly workable for the latter.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 11:22 AM (/y8xj)

It's also a perfectly workable place to shop for furniture, etc. If it saves me beaucoup $$$ over buying new, than I am the beneficiary of the charity.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 12, 2024 11:36 AM (tkR6S)

144 Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (exHjb)

How are you doing then Nova? I have forgotten to ask in a while. I will put you back in my prayers although I do do a blanket one for rons and ettes that need it. Still I think the Big Man enjoys the specificity.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 11:36 AM (yGFFs)

145 I am a yuge donator to charity. I donate tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. I'm very very generous and very very virtuous. Just ask my accountant.

The list of these virtuous worthy charities include:

Elric Blade Ski Foundation
Elric Blade Racing Foundation
Elric Blade Scotch Foundation
Elric Blade Cigar Foundation
Elric Blade Travel Foundation
Elric Blade Home Theater and Audiophile Foundation
Elric Blade THOT Foundation

See how giving and virtuous I am?

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 12, 2024 11:36 AM (iFTx/)

146 a tax exempt foundation to just f**k off and go yachting

To which Foundation can we donate so that Bill Gates can do that - and only that, instead of what he's doing now?

Maybe the Moron Horde can chip in for the "STFD&STFU Foundation", so all the idle rich can just go pound ho's in St Lucia and Grenada, leaving the rest of us alone

Posted by: ? at April 12, 2024 11:36 AM (hSwza)

147 Don't you want me, baby. Don't you want me, ho-ho?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 12, 2024 11:36 AM (YIxO9)

148 Government will step on your toes for donating or assisting in, what is in their eyes, the wrong way. Let's say you and a couple friends set up a table in a homeless hangout and start passing out bag lunches. "Nah, that ain't gonna fly, where's your permit? These people should be down at "The Center".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:36 AM (0EOe9)

149 42
‘ Catholic Charities works …to facilitate the transportation of "migrants"’

I’m looking forward to a post that not only talks about not contributing to Human Trafficking\RICO worthy organizations like CC but actively stamping them out.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 12, 2024 11:36 AM (jbnUc)

150 I will gladly give to battlefield/historic-site preservation organizations.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:37 AM (9yWhg)

151 "while technically the money is no longer under their control, they control the "charity" so as a practical matter they control the money. It's a total scam and tax dodge."

If you counted all that "tax exempt" money that goes missing, you could fund a medium sized country. My theory is that is what the Foundations as a Collective actually are. They are their own globalist nation of the elites, and they fund (largely) anti-American activities.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 12, 2024 11:37 AM (Cus5s)

152 St Jude doesn't turn anyone away. They are legit and have mostly avoided insulting us.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 11:37 AM (yGFFs)

153 Yeah I would say that The Clinton Foundation was the ultimate complete BS 'charity'. I checked, while they were still in business, and 'administrative' costs were over 85%.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 12, 2024 11:37 AM (XeU6L)

154 Tonypete, those Habitat for Humanity thrift stores are great. My Brit friend and I outfitted a few apartments for next to nothing shopping there. You find stuff not even building related. Appliances, sometimes furniture, you name it. Used to be my go to place for weird size doors and windows.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:31 AM (0EOe9)

The town I came from had several decent thrift stores. I started donating items I didn't need, because I'd see the people shopping in there, and knew they needed the stuff more than I did.

But I did pick up the occasional furniture item, because you'd generally find a more decent piece of furniture than the particle board crep they sold new in stores for substantially more money.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:37 AM (dGCAG)

155 Support local VFDs. They cover about 75% of the country.

The VFD in Kress, TX is looking to build a new fire station, if you want to give them a hand, which I have.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM (9isyS)

156 I have worked for many years in a supporting industry to non-profits.

I always say the dirty little secret is that non-profit does not mean non-revenue it just means you have to spend everything you bring in.

Posted by: blaster at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM (IFNME)

157 YUP, even foundations that are engaging in something that you vehemently believe.

Posted by: jeff at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM (ZiwLX)

158 144 Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 11:29 AM (exHjb)

How are you doing then Nova? I have forgotten to ask in a while. I will put you back in my prayers although I do do a blanket one for rons and ettes that need it. Still I think the Big Man enjoys the specificity.
Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 11:36 AM (yGFFs)

After surprising the doc for a few years, I've moved to the progression stage. I have a ton of expensive tests in June, and then we see when treatment might start (fall to next summer 2025 all in the running, depending if my progression keeps current speed or slows down again)...

Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM (exHjb)

159 My company has a big United Way fund drive every year. Every year, I tell them to fuck off...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM (XMwZJ)

160 A $1,000 gift to the operating fund of the charity will provide it with $1,000 dollars to use this year, whereas a $1,000 donation to its associated foundation might result in perhaps $20 or $30 making it to the actual charity this year.

[ The NRA has entered the chat ]

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM (aD39U)

161 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 12, 2024 11:39 AM (T4tVD)

162 138 Good post , Buck. "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business and eventually degenerates into a racket" . We are at the racket stage for mist of these charity/not for profits. Tax all not affiliated with a religious institution.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 12, 2024 11:34 AM (ixVYR)

It's worse than that, even. We Morons rail against the rise of the Administrative State in DC, but these NGOs and nonprofits are becoming a liberal Administrative State arm of the Democrat Party. Between NPR, the Ford Foundation, Gates Foundation, etc etc etc, they've become a way to implement the leftist agenda without public buy-in. Common Core, for instance, would never have gotten off the ground without funding from Gates. They then went around the public to get implemented nationwide.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 12, 2024 11:39 AM (vKKQx)

163 A former Marine bud of mine HATES WWP....says they're worthless grifters.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:24 AM

Heh. An old classmate of mine used to be on their board. Might still be for all I know. Let's just say I'm not surprised that people have issues with them.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:39 AM (Wnv9h)

164 I dug a little deeper into that fake "Whole Systems Foundation." I was shocked to learn this:

Board of Directors

Melanie Smith – President – melanie (at) whole-systems (dot) org
Norton Smith – Treasurer – norton (at) whole-systems (dot) org
Adam Smith – Secretary
Zachary Smith – Vice President

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 12, 2024 11:40 AM (iFTx/)

165 Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM (exHjb)

Oh hon I'm sorry I will definitely pray specifically

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 11:40 AM (yGFFs)

166 Instead of helping unwed mothers, I give directly to the women on the pole.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:10 AM

You know we haven't seen a dime of that, right?

- Local nursing schools
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (Wnv9h)

that's the same girls...

Posted by: SturmToddler at April 12, 2024 11:41 AM (bving)

167 Also charities are a special kind of non profit and many non profits operate a charitable arm.

Take for example the NRA is a non profit and the dues you pay or donations are not tax exempt but they do have charitable entities like "Friends of the NRA".

Posted by: blaster at April 12, 2024 11:41 AM (IFNME)

168 Tax all not affiliated with a religious institution.
Posted by: Smell the Glove

That lets out Scientology, amirite?

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 11:41 AM (WXNFJ)

169 156 I have worked for many years in a supporting industry to non-profits.

I always say the dirty little secret is that non-profit does not mean non-revenue it just means you have to spend everything you bring in.

Posted by: blaster at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM (IFNME)

So true. The first glimpse I had of this was when NY State sued the NYSE for something, back in the 90s IIRC. Turned out that the head of the NYSE, Richard Grasso, was making millions of dollars a year. That wouldn't have mattered at all, except that it became public that the NYSE was a nonprofit organization (at the time). A lot of public outrage over that.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 12, 2024 11:41 AM (vKKQx)

170 Zachary Smith – Vice President
Posted by: Elric Blade

He found his way back to Earth? Does the Robot know this?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:42 AM (9yWhg)

171 Zachary Smith – Vice President
Posted by: Elric Blade

He found his way back to Earth? Does the Robot know this?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:42 AM (9yWhg)
------------
Oh, the pain, the pain!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 11:42 AM (Be/+i)

172 The 'Tonypete Academy for Unwed Mothers' is a fine institution.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 11:42 AM (WXNFJ)

173
Boy, that Elric Blade sure has his charitable fingers in a lot of pies!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (eMh+A)

174 You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar, when I met you.
Posted by: Sponge

That much is true. But picking her out and shaking her up and turning her into something new seems a little creepy.

Posted by: t-bird at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (aqyab)

175 The only tax-exempt should be churches.

All other non-profits are scams, frauds and no-show jobs for the wealthy.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (yikga)

176 My mom's favorite charity was St Jude and she gave money annually for many years. Before I started seeing commercials for it.
I do know that the parents don't have to foot the bills for their children's treatment there, so I like to think the money was well spent.

Posted by: SamIam at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (oasF3)

177 Institute for Justice. 4/4 on Charity Navigator. Until competent legal representation is affordable in ridiculous forfeiture cases or when cops mistakenly break down doors and trash homes, IJ helps the little guy. I just sent them $100 after seeing a “Lehto’s Law” video.

Posted by: dhmosquito at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (r0yFO)

178 165 Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM (exHjb)

Oh hon I'm sorry I will definitely pray specifically
Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 11:40 AM (yGFFs)

Don't feel too bad...I should have been in treatment no later than 7 months by the stat numbers...I've gotten more than 3 years more than that without treatment and counting...so whether it's fall or I do get another 12-15 months, it's all been gravy.

And treatment is just treatment, not a death sentence (at least not anymore - yeah medical advancement). While treatment works (and there are now a few), we're all good

Posted by: Nova Local at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (exHjb)

179 The 'Tonypete Academy for Unwed Mothers' is a fine institution.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 11:42 AM (WXNFJ)
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So, do you generate them, or what?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (Be/+i)

180
A college friend would joke about establishing a Home for Wayward Nymphomaniacs.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 12, 2024 11:44 AM (eMh+A)

181 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 11:44 AM (oqmuB)

182 Foundations are nothing more than a tax dodge for rich people. You funnel your money into your foundation, put your family members on the board, pay them a salary and all promotion, meals and travel are paid for by the foundation. You only have to donate 1 percent I believe.

All growth of funds is tax free, transferring your assets to a foundation avoids gift and inheritance taxes. It's a legal tax dodge.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 12, 2024 11:45 AM (3Ohu0)

183 Some of the foundations that have been around a long time have interesting stories. One I read up on is the Lotta Crabtree foundation. She was a famous entertainer before and during the vaudeville days, made a ton of money, and started a perpetuating fund for various do good things. The fund is still in existence.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:26 AM

Their sister charity is Lotta Vagina. Currently chaired by Hope Solo.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 12, 2024 11:45 AM (Ag7IE)

184 173
Boy, that Elric Blade sure has his charitable fingers in a lot of pies!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (eMh+A)
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What can I say? I'm a giver.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 12, 2024 11:45 AM (iFTx/)

185 172 Heh. Hey Tonypete, how many of those "social clubs" we used to frequent back in the Mahoning Valley were charitable organizations? "Your $20 membership will insure we will be open on Sunday mornings and Sal and Vince get a new Buick".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:46 AM (0EOe9)

186 The 'Tonypete Academy for Unwed Mothers' is a fine institution.
Posted by: Tonypete

So, do you generate them, or what?
Posted by: Captain Obvious

"Giving until it hurts" is our motto.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 11:46 AM (WXNFJ)

187 The only tax-exempt should be churches.

All other non-profits are scams, frauds and no-show jobs for the wealthy.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (yikga)

Churches! What about other religions?? Next you'll be saying Christ is King, you rascal you.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:46 AM (dGCAG)

188 End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Holy shlit. CNN contributor says that the black community feels connected to O.J. Simpson because he kiIIed white people:

https://shorturl.at/nuBY4

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Well, you know, give the people what they want.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 12, 2024 11:46 AM (FVME7)

189 174 You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar, when I met you.
Posted by: Sponge

That much is true. But picking her out and shaking her up and turning her into something new seems a little creepy.
Posted by: t-bird at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (aqyab)

"So I ordered straight Tequila, a little courage in a shot
And I asked you for a date, and then I asked to tie the knot
I got a little wasted, yeah I went a little far
I finally got to hug you, and you helped me to my car
The last thing I remember I heard myself say
I'm in love with you baby, and I don't even know your name"

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 12, 2024 11:46 AM (T+Iwg)

190 That much is true. But picking her out and shaking her up and turning her into something new seems a little creepy.
Posted by: t-bird at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (aqyab)

The five years they had though were such good times. She still loves him. So WAS it that creepy?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 12, 2024 11:46 AM (9isyS)

191 175 The only tax-exempt should be churches.

All other non-profits are scams, frauds and no-show jobs for the wealthy.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 11:43 AM (yikga)

Not having to pay taxes on money going in as a contribution in is less a problem than the deduction as well as not having to pay taxes on earnings from investments or operations.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 12, 2024 11:47 AM (eYoxG)

192 And any government money given to a non-profit--directly or indirectly should be a felony "bribery of a public official."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 11:47 AM (yikga)

193 What can I say? I'm a giver.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 12, 2024 11:45 AM (iFTx/)
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The Turks pay me a golden bounty, and yet I am poor! BECAUSE I AM A RIVER TO MY PEOPLE!!!

Posted by: Auda Abu Tayi at April 12, 2024 11:47 AM (Be/+i)

194 Forums like Reddit and AskAManager have stories for pages about nightmare non-profits. Pay sucks at the bottom level because "The Mission", but someone is getting money. Worse is that there are broken management cogs in the system. They don't fire problem employees because of nepotism and friendship, terrorize the good and decent employees, and are just generally manglers rather than managers. Probably because of the ounce of power that they wield.

Posted by: Another Anon at April 12, 2024 11:47 AM (TCBgd)

195 Churches! What about other religions?? Next you'll be saying Christ is King, you rascal you.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:46 AM (dGCAG)

Jesus is JUST all right.

Oh yeah.

Posted by: Doobie Brothers at April 12, 2024 11:47 AM (9isyS)

196
"... Hot Nurses on the Pole"

"You meant, 'on the clock', didn't you?"

"No, I spoke right the first time."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 12, 2024 11:47 AM (eMh+A)

197 One simply needs to look at the salaries of those employed by the foundation.
For example:
The Susan G. Komen breast cancer organization gives only 20% of their donations to cancer research and pays their CEO $684,000 per year.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

They also spend a bigly sum on lawyers, to sue other charities that try to horn in on their "pink for awareness" or "for the cure" trademarks. (Not linking the old huffpo article that says so, because huffpo.)

So giving money to Komen literally takes money away from other cancer research charities.

Posted by: mikeski at April 12, 2024 11:48 AM (DgGvY)

198 My company has a big United Way fund drive every year. Every year, I tell them to fuck off...
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 11:38 AM

Way back in the day before self employment the company I was at was damn near mafia esque in squeezing donations from us. Then the company gets all the press saying how fucking awesome they are! Not a penny to them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 12, 2024 11:48 AM (Ag7IE)

199 Lol
Henry Ford's Foundation???
Henry Ford was a strong supporter of Hitler. Buck, do you really think his foundation should be still supporting his political agenda?
Lol
Ford Motor Werks which built trucks for the German army was never bombed by the allies until March of 1945. War is war, but business is business. Dearborn built bombers B24s were not going to destroy Ford's Euro factories.

Posted by: Paul banned at April 12, 2024 11:48 AM (DV+2q)

200 Heh. Hey Tonypete, how many of those "social clubs" we used to frequent back in the Mahoning Valley were charitable organizations? "Your $20 membership will insure we will be open on Sunday mornings and Sal and Vince get a new Buick".
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Heh. Boy, no kidding. Those places were great fun. I did receive some friendly (truly) advice at one once.

"Uh, hey Pal - you must be new here. That's Rocco's girl."

She said she was not dating anyone.

"As I said, that's Rocco's girl."

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 11:49 AM (WXNFJ)

201 Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:46 AM (dGCAG)

Jesus is JUST all right.

Oh yeah.
Posted by: Doobie Brothers at April 12, 2024 11:47 AM (9isyS)

That word "just." I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:49 AM (dGCAG)

202 My late parents used to give money, and their time to a local charity that was affiliated with the retirement community they lived in. I forget if it was also affiliated with a church, but believe it was. A couple years after my father passed my mom quit giving... she realized most, if not all of the money was used for "administrative purposes" and did nothing for the community.

They were quite belligerent about it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 12, 2024 11:49 AM (Q4IgG)

203 Here's a new one...
This morning found a text to my departed wife's phone from an area code known as an ERC (easily recognized code). THERE ARE NO PHONES THAT USE THIS CODE according to what I've searched online.
Some kind of scam where I text back "Wrong Number" and get charged? What web has to say:
"assigned for use by the North American Numbering Plan Administrator...When the second and third digits of an area code are the same, that code is called an easily recognizable code (ERC) and assigned to specific services such as toll-free services...If you receive a phone call from area code [ZYY] it is a spam call. Any phone number such as [ZYY]-xxx-xxx does not exist."

What new shit is this?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 11:49 AM (ynpvh)

204 Dave Ramsey also recommends going out to eat on a holiday, leave a big tip and leave to watch their reaction. He says the folks working holidays are those that really need the money.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 12, 2024 11:50 AM (yeEu9)

205 189. The video for that song is hilarious. Look up Alan Jackson I don’t even know your name.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 12, 2024 11:50 AM (MZM5C)

206 105 Cops and firefighters are very well paid and have beyond generous pensions, all while being able to retire in their 50s.

Why do they need my charity donations exactly?
Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:25 AM (tpjlM)

Volunteer firefighters are paid nothing.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 12, 2024 11:51 AM (9isyS)

207 I worked directly with a wildlife rescue group here in N Texas. I am so glad the owner/president was a 501(c)3, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to. She received paltry donations. Most people wanted the wild animals gone from their yards, be it bunnies, squirrels or oppossums. I spent $20k one year out of pocket. Put 48,000 miles on my truck without ever leaving the state. Only way I was ever able to do that was by keeping receipts and writing it off on my takes.

Donate local. Always. National groups get mega-corporation donations.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:51 AM (i8ZU2)

208 How do I contribute to the Doof Pickleball Trust?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:52 AM (9yWhg)

209 204 Dave Ramsey also recommends going out to eat on a holiday, leave a big tip and leave to watch their reaction. He says the folks working holidays are those that really need the money.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 12, 2024 11:50 AM (yeEu9)

Eating out already costs an arm and a leg...my kid went to Carl's Jr. and said a burger meal and a shake cost almost $25...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 11:52 AM (ynpvh)

210 Good topic. Thx.

Delaware Dem Party: June 02, 2015
Foundation created in memory of Beau Biden
PRESS RELEASE
Today, June 2nd, Hallie Biden, widow of former Attorney General Beau Biden, announced the founding of the Beau Biden Foundation for the Protection of Children.

Opinion: Delaware takes Beau Biden's quest to protect children nationwide, by Hallie Biden, Jan. 8, 2019

NY Post, 03/26/2022: Beau Biden Foundation rakes in millions, spends fraction on kid programs

Plenty of kids AND predators to keep 'em busy.
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An interesting non-profit: The House at 1229, founded 2019

Cause IQ: Description
The House at 1229 fosters meaningful connections and provides a welcoming space in Washington, DC. It hosts author talks, lectures, discussions, supper club, and other opportunities for fulfillment to encourage community among its members. The tax-exempt programs facilitate these activities within the elegant space of The House at 1229.

A social club. Kathleen Buhle, Robert H. Biden's former wife (know that for a fact?) is CEO. Reportedly, is the developmental chair for the Ellington Fund, too.

Believe it was once on at least one Charity rating service but doesn't appear now.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at April 12, 2024 11:52 AM (NFX2v)

211 Buck good rant and couldn't agree more that charitable federations have gone bad.

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 11:52 AM (oqmuB)

212 42 Catholic Charities works hand in hand with the State Department and INS to facilitate the transportation of "migrants" (adults and kids) from all over the 3rd world to the US.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 12, 2024 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)

I don’t think the Vatican is a party to Schengen, even.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 12, 2024 11:52 AM (9isyS)

213 What new shit is this?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 11:49 AM (ynpvh)

Everyone in my circle has their name assigned to their number. If I get a call, and there's no name associated with the number, or the ID doesn't show a specific business with whom I am CURRENTLY working, I don't answer the phone.

And texts... jeez, even people I know, if you put a link in your text, I'm deleting it.

I get very very very few spam calls. Almost none.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:52 AM (dGCAG)

214 How do I contribute to the Doof Pickleball Trust?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:52 AM (9yWhg)
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1-800-DOOF-4-PICK

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 12, 2024 11:53 AM (Be/+i)

215 Ford-Werke was controlled by the Nazis, not Ford.

Posted by: Robert at April 12, 2024 11:53 AM (Z2yLo)

216 What new shit is this?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Wait until you get a phone call from your phone number.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:54 AM (i8ZU2)

217 206 105 Cops and firefighters are very well paid and have beyond generous pensions, all while being able to retire in their 50s.

Why do they need my charity donations exactly?
Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:25 AM (tpjlM)

Volunteer firefighters are paid nothing.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 12, 2024 11:51 AM (9isyS)

My dad volunteered for the rescue squad for 20+ years. Was one of the founders of the organization. Covered lots of rural area in upstate NY. Paid nothing to have the scanner/pager/plectron go off in the middle of the night to help someone in distress - or pull kids from a bad car wreck.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 12, 2024 11:54 AM (N39Ws)

218 208 How do I contribute to the Doof Pickleball Trust?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:52 AM (9yWhg)

send pickleballs? Just don't send cornholing equipment.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 11:54 AM (ynpvh)

219
Mom died almost two years ago. I elected to continue to get her mail from Michigan for a year.

Whatever groups had her on their mailing lists were johnny on the spot about getting her "new" address (ours) in their queues. Now everything is addressed to "Krebs' Mom" at "Krebs' Address", for a 50% bump in our junk mail volume!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (eMh+A)

220 Yeah. How about the Clinton Foundation? A giant grift if I ever saw one.

Posted by: Ralph at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (TysyT)

221 204 I keep a cup on my house desk with a $100 or so in fives and ones and tip a lot. In most cases, it pays off. Walmart delivery people (who also get a 10% on line tip) get a fiver because they are always nice enough to put my stuff on the kitchen counter. Maintenance guys always get a thank you and "here, have a beer when you get off". Also handy if a neighbor needs $5 or $10 until payday.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (0EOe9)

222 My three charities are St Jude, Shriners Hospital and Semper Fi Fund.

My kind hearted mom had about 50 charities she gave to in very small $5 to $10 amounts every few months. I tried to tell her to just pick three solid, researched charities but she wanted to help everybody. I'm still getting the 'free' gifts from those charities 2 years after my mom's passing.

Posted by: polynikes at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (GvesS)

223 I shall set up a foundation to research the affects on the planet by large breasted super-models that have sex at least once a day. It will require extreme documenting and ultimately a statistical analysis of large data samples.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (eYF7X)

224 Ford-Werke was controlled by the Nazis, not Ford.
Posted by: Robert at April 12, 2024 11:53 AM (Z2yLo)

And the iconic Wehrmacht truck was the Opel Blitz truck. Opel. A division of General Motors.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (tkR6S)

225 Pretty sure pickleball is a sign of endstage capitalism.

Posted by: Robert at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (Z2yLo)

226 What new shit is this?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 11:49 AM (ynpvh)

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RoboCaller bots can spoof Caller ID numbers. I've even gotten spam phone calls from my own phone number.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 11:56 AM (W4CVQ)

227 Delaware takes Beau Biden's quest to protect children nationwide, by Hallie Biden, Jan. 8, 2019

Because Hunter and Joe can turn up anywhere.

Posted by: t-bird at April 12, 2024 11:56 AM (aqyab)

228 How long before somebody sets up the OJ Simpson Foundation?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:56 AM (9yWhg)

229 Firefighters in my local area are starting to be paid, at least some but my dad was a volunteer fireman/ ambulance as long as I have been around and didn't get nothing from the local government.
It was middle of night or afternoon calls and could be a hour could be 8 hours. He always went when the call came.

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 11:57 AM (oqmuB)

230 Yeah. How about the Clinton Foundation? A giant grift if I ever saw one.
Posted by: Ralph at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (TysyT)

It's actually a very solid foundation. As evidenced by all the people who have suicided by being pushed... I mean jumping off rooftops.

Rarely cracks the pavement.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:57 AM (dGCAG)

231 Oakland thugs stole 90% of the jewelry from this family store ... the family doesn't have theft insurance because it was getting too expensive

https://shorturl.at/fpuCT

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Damn white people!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 12, 2024 11:57 AM (FVME7)

232 213 What new shit is this?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 11:49 AM (ynpvh)

Everyone in my circle has their name assigned to their number. If I get a call, and there's no name associated with the number, or the ID doesn't show a specific business with whom I am CURRENTLY working, I don't answer the phone.

And texts... jeez, even people I know, if you put a link in your text, I'm deleting it.

I get very very very few spam calls. Almost none.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:52 AM (dGCAG)

No link. Made to look like a wronglly sent text.
"Hi yyy, this is xxx. I'll be out in San Diego soon and wanted to know if you wanted to get together when I'm out there."
So the scam must be responding,
"Sorry, wrong #". Somehow. Maybe to see if live number.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 11:57 AM (ynpvh)

233 What new shit is this?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Wait until you get a phone call from your phone number.
Posted by: rickb223

I've gotten those. Never answer. I can talk to myself just fine without using a phone.

Posted by: mikeski at April 12, 2024 11:57 AM (DgGvY)

234 How long before somebody sets up the OJ Simpson Foundation?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 11:56 AM (9yWhg)

Help us realize OJ's dream of finding the real killer.

Posted by: Robert at April 12, 2024 11:57 AM (Z2yLo)

235 George Floyd's sister started a charity in his name.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:58 AM (Zz0t1)

236 Oddly enough. I JUST got my tax return like 10 minutes ago. Yea. Nobody is getting a penny from me.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 12, 2024 11:58 AM (Ag7IE)

237 188
‘ black community feels connected to O.J. Simpson because he kiIIed white people: ’

That’s both a slam on black Americans and accurate.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 12, 2024 11:58 AM (jbnUc)

238 No link. Made to look like a wronglly sent text.
"Hi yyy, this is xxx. I'll be out in San Diego soon and wanted to know if you wanted to get together when I'm out there."
So the scam must be responding,
"Sorry, wrong #". Somehow. Maybe to see if live number.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 11:57 AM (ynpvh)

Exactly. Letting them know it's a live number, they then sell it to the other scammers.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 11:58 AM (dGCAG)

239 216 What new shit is this?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Wait until you get a phone call from your phone number.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 11:54 AM (i8ZU2)

Happened a few years ago...more than once.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 11:58 AM (ynpvh)

240 224 When I was a kid I had two Opel Kadets. Pretty much verified why they lost the war.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:58 AM (0EOe9)

241 You can't be too careful.

https://shorturl.at/cISW4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 12, 2024 11:59 AM (FVME7)

242 Wouldn't you like to be a big brother to someone like me?

https://youtu.be/WgwQV97m5TU

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at April 12, 2024 11:59 AM (Tz8Uw)

243 Is fuckwit really pretending Cologne didn't get bombed in WW2?

The target of the first 1000 bomber raid, the site of one of the most famous photos of the conflict, showing complete devastation, and the invincible ignoramus still regurgitates whatever bullshit he's sourced from his usual lying Communist sources.

Go eat some more shit, Paul. It's what you're good at.

Posted by: spindrift at April 12, 2024 11:59 AM (OguvZ)

244 People Magazine: A growing number of high-profile athletes and celebrities have invested in teams within the league over the past three years. Last year, NBA stars like James, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love and Draymond Green all invested in pickleball teams. Jul 20, 2023

Surely, they'd love your investments.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at April 12, 2024 11:59 AM (NFX2v)

245 219
Mom died almost two years ago. I elected to continue to get her mail from Michigan for a year.

Whatever groups had her on their mailing lists were johnny on the spot about getting her "new" address (ours) in their queues. Now everything is addressed to "Krebs' Mom" at "Krebs' Address", for a 50% bump in our junk mail volume!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (eMh+A)

Someone I know purposefully uses a wrong name variant to track when junk mail comes in and who was the originating party. Pretty funny the name he used.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 12:00 PM (ynpvh)

246 Recall that taxes were originally a tribute you paid to the sovereign for safe crossing in his territory--to recognize his authority.
That citizens didn't pay taxes.

We are not citizens of our own country.

Non-profits, corporations and illegals are.

This country is fucked up-- it cares nothing for the people that live here.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 12:00 PM (yikga)

247 OJ's Twitter account was a riot. What a cut up.

Posted by: Rimshot at April 12, 2024 12:01 PM (Tz8Uw)

248 223 I shall set up a foundation to research the affects on the planet by large breasted super-models that have sex at least once a day. It will require extreme documenting and ultimately a statistical analysis of large data samples.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (eYF7X)

::: Lizzo has entered the chat :::
::: Trigglypuff has entered the chat :::
::: TrannyguyWithBigBoobs has entered the chat :::

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 12:01 PM (ynpvh)

249 ‘ black community feels connected to O.J. Simpson because he kiIIed white people: ’

48 Hours ran a special yesterday about how OJ was a big thumb in the eye for the justice system. It didn't matter if he murdered, he was showing the racist justice system that a POC could defeat them. It was quite sickening.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 12, 2024 12:01 PM (eYF7X)

250 233 What new shit is this?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Wait until you get a phone call from your phone number.
Posted by: rickb223

I've gotten those. Never answer. I can talk to myself just fine without using a phone.

Posted by: mikeski at April 12, 2024 11:57 AM (DgGvY)

Besides, you'll go deaf doing that.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 12:01 PM (ynpvh)

251
Delaware Dem Party: June 02, 2015
Foundation created in memory of Beau Biden
PRESS RELEASE
Today, June 2nd, Hallie Biden, widow of former Attorney General Beau Biden, announced the founding of the Beau Biden Foundation for the Protection of Children.

Seeing as how The Sainted Beau (TM) was raked over the coals for letting a notorious pedophile in one of the local DuPont families skate on child abuse charges, that was some world class chutzpah to set up that tax dodge.

One wonders how Hallie found the time to run it, what with her acting as Hunter's mattress AND disposing of his unregistered firearm in a trash dumpster near a public s hool.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 12, 2024 12:01 PM (eMh+A)

252 I keep a cup on my house desk with a $100 or so in fives and ones and tip a lot. In most cases, it pays off. Walmart delivery people (who also get a 10% on line tip) get a fiver because they are always nice enough to put my stuff on the kitchen counter. Maintenance guys always get a thank you and "here, have a beer when you get off". Also handy if a neighbor needs $5 or $10 until payday.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 11:55 AM (0EOe9)

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I always tip blue collar workers $20. The two big dudes (looked like ex-NFL linemen) who delivered our new refrigerator a few years ago got $40 each.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 12:02 PM (uSVDE)

253 How long before somebody sets up the OJ Simpson Foundation?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Giving knives to the underprivileged?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 12, 2024 12:02 PM (FVME7)

254 240
‘I had two Opel Kadets‘

What was the worst thing about them?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 12, 2024 12:02 PM (jbnUc)

255 69 Charity had its time and place in a world without welfare. Today? No longer needed. Any “poor” person can access a gazillion government programs to provide them a very nice life. Hell we’ve all seen the “poor” people using EBT and driving a nicer car than the people paying taxes for it.

Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:16 AM (tpjlM)

Good. Good. If more people thought like you, we could destroy civil society and take even MORE POWER. And WE WILL DESTROY civil society.

Posted by: U.S. Government at April 12, 2024 12:02 PM (9isyS)

256 George Floyd's sister started a charity in his name.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 11:58 AM

1-800-Crack For Kids...C...R...A...C..K for kids...

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 12, 2024 12:02 PM (Ag7IE)

257 When I was a kid I had two Opel Kadets. Pretty much verified why they lost the war.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024

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In the mid- to late sixties, Buick dealers sold Opels, even as Ford dealers sold the Cortina. They looked very odd then, being so much smaller than even what Ford or GM thought of as "compact" cars.

Not sure if Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge had a foreign-sourced subcompact then. Later there was the Dodge Colt, a Mitsubishi vehicle.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 12, 2024 12:03 PM (J2vNu)

258 251. 👍

Posted by: L - if they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at April 12, 2024 12:04 PM (NFX2v)

259 Evidently the Mary Jo Kopechne foundation is under water.

Posted by: Rimshot at April 12, 2024 12:04 PM (Tz8Uw)

260 Someone I know purposefully uses a wrong name variant to track when junk mail comes in and who was the originating party. Pretty funny the name he used.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024

***
Miss Linda uses the names of two of our late cats.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 12, 2024 12:04 PM (J2vNu)

261 ::: Lizzo has entered the chat :::
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Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 12:01 PM (ynpvh)

None of those are super models. Super-sized, maybe, but not supermodels.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 12, 2024 12:04 PM (tkR6S)

262 Is fuckwit really pretending Cologne didn't get bombed in WW2?

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And it stinks!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 12, 2024 12:04 PM (FVME7)

263 Have yet to get a call from myself

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 12:05 PM (oqmuB)

264 246 Recall that taxes were originally a tribute you paid to the sovereign for safe crossing in his territory--to recognize his authority.
That citizens didn't pay taxes.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 12:00 PM (yikga)

Not sure where you get this from. As both a revenue and manpower source, higher status individuals, such as citizens, contribute more than slaves, migrants, etc. Basically a pay for status type of system. Political power was pretty connected to what a class was putting in.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 12, 2024 12:05 PM (eYoxG)

265 261 ::: Lizzo has entered the chat :::
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Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 12:01 PM (ynpvh)

None of those are super models. Super-sized, maybe, but not supermodels.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 12, 2024 12:04 PM (tkR6S)

If Kumala's step-daughter is considered one...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 12:05 PM (ynpvh)

266 105 Cops and firefighters are very well paid and have beyond generous pensions, all while being able to retire in their 50s.

Why do they need my charity donations exactly?
Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:25 AM (tpjlM)

Same reason I guess there are military charities. I have no problem if it actually goes to those in need and not the charity staff and 'fund raising' expenses. Charity Navigator is a good site to see exactly how donations are divided up.

Posted by: polynikes at April 12, 2024 12:05 PM (GvesS)

267 The OJ foundation will be bled dry in no time.

Posted by: Rimshot at April 12, 2024 12:05 PM (Tz8Uw)

268 Have yet to get a call from myself
Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 12:05 PM

I've gotten some. I love to fuck with these people. I just repeat what they say until they hang up.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 12, 2024 12:06 PM (Ag7IE)

269 Kato was always kaelin OJ.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 12:06 PM (9yWhg)

270 254 Fragile. Rusted. Under powered. Couldn't get parts even through GM. Slow, real slow. Lousy paint. Other than that they had a great AM radio.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 12, 2024 12:06 PM (0EOe9)

271 267 The OJ foundation will be bled dry in no time.

Posted by: Rimshot at April 12, 2024 12:05 PM (Tz8Uw)

Yet charges of malfeasence won't fit.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

272 Wow... Iran WARNS the US to stay out of the Israel fight... or face attacks on US troops in the region.

Really?? I know Biden's a pussy... but pickin a fight with the Big Dog?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 12:06 PM (xaFKb)

273 {29} Um, CBD.

https://is.gd/X6O1uN

Posted by: I am the Shadout Maps, the Housekeeper at April 12, 2024 11:08 AM (PiwSw)

That report is so ridiculously positive across the board, that I can only conclude that Charity Navigator is either:

1. Run/owned by the same people as the Clinton Foundation.
2. Afraid to stop clapping.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 12, 2024 12:06 PM (qPw5n)

274 Nood Big Boss Man Thread.

Posted by: Robert at April 12, 2024 12:06 PM (Z2yLo)

275 I've gotten those. Never answer. I can talk to myself just fine without using a phone.

Posted by: mikeski at April 12, 2024 11:57 AM (DgGvY)

Besides, you'll go deaf doing that.
Posted by: jim

Wait until you argue with yourself.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 12:06 PM (i8ZU2)

276 199: Paul, can you explain why the Soviets got to Berlin on DETROIT IRON, much of it made by FORD?

Dummy.

Besides, suddenly you hate anti-Semites when your side is virulently anti-Semitic?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 12, 2024 12:07 PM (WLul0)

277 ‘I had two Opel Kadets‘
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What was the worst thing about them?

Massively underpowered even for a car that weighed almost nothing. My dad had one and when you turned on the headlights, you could see the temperature gauge rise from the extra strain of the generator.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 12:07 PM (/y8xj)

278 69 Charity had its time and place in a world without welfare.

I think "69 Charity" is something many here would donate to without any further checking.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 12, 2024 12:07 PM (2ocoG)

279 271 267 The OJ foundation will be bled dry in no time.

But they'll handle your money with kid gloves.

Posted by: OJ punz? at April 12, 2024 12:08 PM (Tz8Uw)

280 One wonders how Hallie found the time to run it, what with her acting as Hunter's mattress AND disposing of his unregistered firearm in a trash dumpster near a public s hool.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 12, 2024 12:01 PM (eMh+A)

"unregistered"? Hopefully, all firearms are such. Makes a mockery of the Second Amendment, otherwise. "unlawfully purchased"? Go with that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 12, 2024 12:08 PM (tkR6S)

281 249
‘ he was showing the racist justice system that a POC could defeat them’

That was 48 Hours take or that of the black bigots they no doubt interviewed?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 12, 2024 12:09 PM (jbnUc)

282
1-800-DOOF-4-PICK
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight

Don't go all dyslexic on yourself
and dial 1-800-POOF-4-DICK

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 12, 2024 12:09 PM (eMh+A)

283 I always tip the guys before they start the job . I tell them I might forget once everything is wrapping up.

Of the dozens of times I've done that , only once did I think it backfired on me. Usually I can see the extra effort and care put into the job .

Posted by: polynikes at April 12, 2024 12:09 PM (GvesS)

284 105 Cops and firefighters are very well paid and have beyond generous pensions, all while being able to retire in their 50s.

Why do they need my charity donations exactly?
Posted by: Montec at April 12, 2024 11:25 AM (tpjlM)

I had volunteer fireman representative knock on our door when we lived in GA. He was looking for donations. Everyone knew this new vol fire dept. was corrupt to the core. I told him no way Jose. He basically told me it would be a shame if our house started on fire and nobody showed up. I told him that's what insurance is for. I then proceeded to tell him to GTF off my property.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 12, 2024 12:09 PM (eYF7X)

285 Massively underpowered even for a car that weighed almost nothing. My dad had one and when you turned on the headlights, you could see the temperature gauge rise from the extra strain of the generator.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024

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Wiki says the bigger (!) engine in the OK produced a whopping 54 hp.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 12, 2024 12:10 PM (J2vNu)

286 281 249
‘ he was showing the racist justice system that a POC could defeat them’

That was 48 Hours take or that of the black bigots they no doubt interviewed?
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Both. I was waiting for a high five to break out.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 12, 2024 12:11 PM (eYF7X)

287 Henry Ford was a strong supporter of Hitler.

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Backwards as usual. Hitler was a strong supporter of Henry Ford. Ford was the only American mentioned by name in Mein Kampf.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 12, 2024 12:11 PM (FVME7)

288 270
‘ Fragile. Rusted. Under powered. ’

Imagine driving that on the Eastern front.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 12, 2024 12:12 PM (jbnUc)

289 Anyone know of a free pad I could crash in? I have a purty mouth and can take out the garbage.

Posted by: KATO KAELIN at April 12, 2024 12:15 PM (eYF7X)

290 289 Anyone know of a free pad I could crash in? I have a purty mouth and can take out the garbage.

Posted by: KATO KAELIN at April 12, 2024 12:15 PM (eYF7X)

::: perks up :::

Posted by: Pety Bootyjuice at April 12, 2024 12:17 PM (ynpvh)

291 287 Henry Ford was a strong supporter of Hitler.

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Backwards as usual. Hitler was a strong supporter of Henry Ford. Ford was the only American mentioned by name in Mein Kampf.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 12, 2024 12:11 PM (FVME7)

Although Ford was an anti-semite.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

292 My dad volunteered for the rescue squad for 20+ years. Was one of the founders of the organization. Covered lots of rural area in upstate NY. Paid nothing to have the scanner/pager/plectron go off in the middle of the night to help someone in distress - or pull kids from a bad car wreck.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 12, 2024 11:54 AM (N39Ws)

Same here. My wife has been an EMT with our local volunteer squad for 28 years. Had that pager go off all hours, including holidays. She's gone through the ranks, including being chief. She's been president of the squad for the past 10 years. All volunteer. No compensation except the desire to help people at their time of need.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at April 12, 2024 12:48 PM (iODuv)

293 From now on, to cut out the middle man, I'm going to donate my plastic directly to the ocean.

Posted by: Simple Stevo at April 12, 2024 01:01 PM (Dgo06)

294 After all the 9/11 volunteering scams were revealed, especially and including Red Cross, I agree 1000% that donations are a scam. Donate household goods/ clothes directly to local women's shelter, they usually have a "clothes pantry" for displaced women. No middle man, people that need it, get it.

Posted by: rusty schaklefjord at April 12, 2024 01:04 PM (Gp/9/)

295 Another good source to check this stuff out is the Pro Publication non-profit explore. You can access a portion of non-profit’s tax returns. You would amazed at how many people have 6 or 7 figure salaries working for a “non-profit”. Planned Parenthood, NPR, and PBS come to mind but Universities dole out huge salaries. The President of Penn was getting paid 20 million a year.

Posted by: Brindle at April 12, 2024 02:47 PM (lFg0Y)

296 Donate to Greenpeace so they c an keep fueling their ships and Zodiacs with Fossil Fuels so they can protest Offshore Oilwell's

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 12, 2024 06:11 PM (wGqjj)

297 United Way. Horrible org. When I was working for a small ultrasonic testing/engineering firm (about 40 employees), United Way came calling shortly after I hired on. However, instead of sending their own people, they drafted some poor shmuck from Valero Energy (a MUCH larger company than ours) to speak and shake us down for cash donations. This guy was obviously brainwashed so well, heavily suggesting a 1% automatic donation cut right from our paycheck. He stated his sales pitch so matter-of-factly that I was astonished that he appeared to have no clue as to just how much money he was asking people to so blithely hand over. I was secretly pissed at this railroad job and wrote them a $100 check so the bosses would at least think I was helping their company look good (bosses frown on non-donaters). What pissed me off the most was that UW was so influential within the major corporations that they convinced them to use THEIR employees to solicit money instead of UW people. F-ing grifter scam artists.

Now that I work for myself, no charity gets any money from me.

Posted by: John Hyatt at April 12, 2024 08:04 PM (1g1YE)

298 On NGO's this one comes to mind as they flooded the Australia free to air TV when Governments were flagging banning plastic bags. I was suspect of their intentions then and nothing has changed except for supermarkets having a handy new profit stream.

Nice perk to have useful idiots to pay for your surfing trips by flogging a problem that was pretty well non existent in Oz:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4Ocean

Posted by: Rockdoctor at April 12, 2024 11:11 PM (8FNDg)

299 Thank you. I posted the link to this on FB. I will be scrutinizing my charitable donations very carefully this year.

Posted by: Linda S Fox at April 13, 2024 07:31 AM (I+Nd2)

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