Grocery Stores in San Francisco Are Closing Due to City-Sanctioned Constant Looting.<br>But Don't Worry, San Francisco Politicians Have a Solution.

Grocery Stores in San Francisco Are Closing Due to City-Sanctioned Constant Looting.
But Don't Worry, San Francisco Politicians Have a Solution.

No, they're not going to demand that thieves be given long prison sentences.

Their solution is to force them to stay open or find a "successor store" which agrees to operate in this crime-ridden area in their place. If they don't, local residents -- minorities, I assume -- are allowed to sue because of Muh Racism.

A pair of progressive San Francisco lawmakers are pushing a bill that would allow residents in the crime-ravaged city to sue grocery stores that close up shop if they don't give six months' notice.
The proposal by San Francisco Board of Supervisors members Dean Preston and Aaron Peskin would require business to either find a successor grocer or work out a plan with residents in the neighborhood to ensure the availability of supermarket options.
The Grocery Protection Act -- which is based on a proposal the board approved in 1984 that was vetoed by then-San Francisco Mayor Dianne Feinstein -- comes amid a rash of retail theft fueled by the city's drug and homelessness crisis that has led to several business closures.
Grocery stores in San Francisco may have to give six months' notice before closing up, according to a proposal by two local lawmakers.
Whole Foods closed its Market Street location last year after there were 568 emergency calls lodged in a 13-month period due to incidents such as vagrants throwing food, yelling, fighting and attempting to defecate on the floor, according to the New York Times. At least 14 arrests were made at the location.
Preston, who introduced the legislation last week, floated the proposal in January when a Safeway supermarket in the Fillmore section announced it would close in March.

The day before the board was scheduled to vote on the resolution, the supermarket chain announced that it would keep the store open until next January.
The new ordinance would exempt supermarkets and grocery stores that close because of a natural disaster or business circumstances that aren't "reasonably foreseeable."
In those cases, the businesses do not have to provide six months' notice.
A proposed ordinance would require grocery stores in San Francisco to make a "good faith" effort to make sure another supermarket comes in its place if it closes up shop.
If a store closes without providing notice to the Board of Supervisors as well as the Office of Economic and Workforce Development (OEWD) those affected by the closure would be entitled to sue for damages, according to the language of the proposed ordinance.
The bill would also require that grocery stores "meet and work in good faith with neighborhood residents" and the OEWD to find a workable solution to keep groceries available at the location.

Via Actual Justice Warrior.

There's a local news report at the beginning of this video.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:10 PM

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1 Okay, we'll stay open; but, we will not have any goods for sale.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 01:10 PM (zXWkD)

2 beep

Posted by: capt christopher pike at April 12, 2024 01:10 PM (vtyCZ)

3 And FIRST!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 01:10 PM (zXWkD)

4 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at April 12, 2024 01:10 PM (fACYj)

5 Fetched the movie thread

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 01:10 PM (zXWkD)

6 1 Okay, we'll stay open; but, we will not have any goods for sale.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 01:10 PM (zXWkD)

2 beep
Posted by: capt christopher pike
====
beep beep

Posted by: capt christopher pike at April 12, 2024 01:10 PM (vtyCZ)

7 You know, I don't have this problem in my neck of the woods.

Weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:11 PM (GBKbO)

8 1 and the one clerk in the store will behind very thick glass, that has blinds that they never open.

Posted by: Bete at April 12, 2024 01:11 PM (BKMOA)

9 That'll attract a lot of new stores!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 12, 2024 01:11 PM (63Dwl)

10 7 Your fired.

Disney

Posted by: Bete at April 12, 2024 01:12 PM (BKMOA)

11 I'm having another one of those "Am I the only one too stupid to know how to get myself a piece of the graft?" moments...

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 01:12 PM (UnA8+)

12 Suck it, proles!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 12, 2024 01:12 PM (/HDaX)

13 Let them eat poop.

they probably like it better than cake anyway. Weirdos.

Posted by: henry at April 12, 2024 01:12 PM (JMDly)

14 Forcing someone to keep operating a business that they want to close? That sounds suspiciously like Involuntary Servitude to me.

Posted by: junior at April 12, 2024 01:12 PM (8yBQ7)

15 Food Deserts: Women and Minorities Hardest Hit (By Democrat Policy)

Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:12 PM (i4Y5V)

16 Every grocery store in the city should give the city the required 6-months notice that they will be leaving.

Then follow through with that plan.

People will starve?

Well, you should have thought of that before you tried these stupid rules.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 12, 2024 01:12 PM (7fElN)

17 First: The only reason you are arresting people for shoplifting is because of raycisssms!

Then: The only reason there aren't stores in the 'hood is because of raycisssms!

Posted by: 18-1 at April 12, 2024 01:13 PM (ibTVg)

18 When is the Big One gonna come and sink California into the ocean?

I mean, I loved the state when I was stationed there, but I think it's broken beyond repair now.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:13 PM (9yWhg)

19 The People's Grocery!

Someone read Atlas Shrugged and thought "what an uplifting story about the merits of collectivism and state ownership!"

Posted by: sven at April 12, 2024 01:13 PM (X0I7i)

20
Okay, we'll stay open; but, we will not have any goods for sale.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Bag of rice. Can of beans.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 12, 2024 01:13 PM (63Dwl)

21 9 And then the Dems can say CapitLism failed. So, they win cause that area ain't voting R despite decades of same D failures.

Posted by: Bete at April 12, 2024 01:13 PM (BKMOA)

22 >>When is the Big One gonna come and sink California into the ocean?

Arizona Bay

Posted by: Learn to Swim at April 12, 2024 01:13 PM (i4Y5V)

23 Who knew that Hotel California was prophetic?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 12, 2024 01:14 PM (JMAcK)

24 I would like to see police arrest the politicians as accomplices to the massive looting rings doing this work but...unfortunately the police in big blue shitholes are every bit as corrupt as the pols.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 12, 2024 01:14 PM (ibTVg)

25 Greedy corporations price gouging to make more profits to fund Trump and Republicans.
-- DU dispatch

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 12, 2024 01:14 PM (yikga)

26 @22 >>When is the Big One gonna come and sink California into the ocean?

Arizona Bay

--------

Otisville

Posted by: junior at April 12, 2024 01:14 PM (8yBQ7)

27 End Wokeness @EndWokeness 3h
8 armed thugs took on an old Asian couple in Oakland and looted the entire store in broad daylight.

How much more will we allow?

https://tinyurl.com/2bz6eb8b
37 seconds; LOUD; violence

Paul A. Szypula @Bubblebathgirl 10h Replying to @EndWokeness
Oakland voted for Mayor Sheng Thao and as a result they now have one of the highest crime rates of any city in the country.

Thao got elected saying her priority is “diversity.”

Not safety or success. Diversity.

Crime has skyrocketed.

Maybe Oakland should vote different.

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 12, 2024 01:14 PM (vtyCZ)

28 568 emergency calls... 14 arrests.

GEEE, I wonder if we can spot the issue.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 12, 2024 01:14 PM (JMAcK)

29 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:14 PM (Zz0t1)

30 Question: What percentage of the profits of the theft rings looting these stores ends up in the pockets of the politicians (or their family members) allowing the looting of these stores?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 12, 2024 01:15 PM (ibTVg)

31 So SF was fucked all the way back in 1984 but DiFi was the voice of reason? That's crazy.

Also, doesn't SF have an ordinance that restaurants have to serve you if you're naked? I recall the justification was that it was being mean to gays otherwise.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 12, 2024 01:15 PM (2ocoG)

32 How many stores will close up shop before this takes effect?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)

33 Every store needs to be prepared to close before this law goes into effect if it passes.

Posted by: Formerly known as Skeptic at April 12, 2024 01:15 PM (FR+I0)

34 Food. What a luxury.

Posted by: Ethiopia at April 12, 2024 01:15 PM (Tz8Uw)

35 i suspect that IF thi s passes every store, or most of them at least, will close before the day this bill becomes actual law. so expect a TON of announced closures on june 30 for a july 1st enactment date.

Posted by: SturmToddler at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (bving)

36 Honestly, if I owned a grocery I'd shut it down the second before this goes into effect.

There is ZERO benefit to remaining there.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (JMAcK)

37 Republican Senators who voted for the "Bipartisan Safer Communities Act and totes told us it was an anti Second Amendment bill;

Roy Blunt, Missouri
Richard Burr, North Carolina
Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia
Bill Cassidy. Louisiana
Susan Collins, Maine
John Cornyn, Texas
Joni Ernst, Iowa
Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
Mitch McConnell, Kentucky
Lisa Murkowski, Alaska
Rob Portman, Ohio
Mitt Romney, Utah
Thom Tillis, North Carolina
Pat Toomey, Pennsylvania
Todd Young, Indiana

Posted by: Truthbomb at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (2hOms)

38 >>End Wokeness @EndWokeness 3h
8 armed thugs took on an old Asian couple in Oakland and looted the entire store in broad daylight.

Cawr Us

Posted by: RooftopKoreans4Rent at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (i4Y5V)

39

Stock nothing but canned lima beans.

Posted by: Ped Xing at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (GJTAY)

40 attempting to defecate on the floor

Man, you do that shit outside on the sidewalk. What, were you born in a barn?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (Zz0t1)

41 The Grocery Protection Act -- which is based on a proposal the board approved in 1984

Wow, this insanity was first mooted 40 years ago? The Left has been utterly nuts a lot longer than I used to think.

Posted by: spindrift at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (OguvZ)

42 Example 9,754,070,328 of Leftists One Stage Thinking

But of course they want the Republic to crash so the Marxists can take over

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (oqmuB)

43 No shirt, no shoes, no service. But no pants is fine?

Posted by: Formerly known as Skeptic at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (FR+I0)

44 Afternoon Ace. Government controlling the means of production and distribution. Where have I heard that before? I also don't recall that that's been successful and usually only results in mass death and misery. But except for Horde members who are residents the leftists voted for this so I don't care

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (ixVYR)

45 >>Honestly, if I owned a grocery I'd shut it down the second before this goes into effect.

I would call down the Jewish Lightning.

Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (i4Y5V)

46 Question: What percentage of the profits of the theft rings looting these stores ends up in the pockets of the politicians (or their family members) allowing the looting of these stores?

From the videos I've seen, the organized thieves that smash peoples' car windows and grab the contents always roll up in very expensive cars, like Mercedes S Classes and G Wagens and that sort of thing. It's not a small time operation, and and big time operation always has government connections.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (2ocoG)

47 Before complaining about the sidewalks of San Francisco, have you look at the floor of the Café after penguins have sashayed through?

Posted by: Duncanthrax, asking the questions the MSM doesn't ask at April 12, 2024 01:17 PM (a3Q+t)

48 This is like taxing California residents for moving to Florida.

Posted by: huerfano at April 12, 2024 01:17 PM (VGOMa)

49 41 Wow, this insanity was first mooted 40 years ago? The Left has been utterly nuts a lot longer than I used to think.
Posted by: spindrift at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (OguvZ)

=======

There's always someone who thinks that they can bend reality to their dreams.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

50 Are work boots being looted?

Posted by: I gotta ask at April 12, 2024 01:17 PM (Tz8Uw)

51 The Grocery Protection Act
.......

Gee I hope it was bipartisan or something.

Posted by: wth at April 12, 2024 01:17 PM (v0R5T)

52 21 Posted by: Bete at April 12, 2024 01:13 PM (BKMOA)

Read Schlicther's Kelly Turnbull series...

"The People's Republic" which San Fran is a cultural hotbed for does not want economic success they want a communist dictatorship.

You and I will be "the wreckers in the red."

Posted by: sven at April 12, 2024 01:18 PM (X0I7i)

53 18 Forcing them to live the consequences of their actions may be more of a punishment than a quick Hand of. God moment. Cruelty Ace Style (TM).

Posted by: Bete at April 12, 2024 01:18 PM (BKMOA)

54 I would call down the Jewish Lightning.
Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (i4Y5V)

The Jewish Space Laser would be cooler.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 12, 2024 01:18 PM (2ocoG)

55 How many stores will close up shop before this takes effect?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
---
I'm hoping ALL of them will, as a protest against this move.

Let everyone drive an hour out of town if they want to find food.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 12, 2024 01:18 PM (7fElN)

56 In California, residential house prices in some areas have dropped by 40%.

I'm guessing that for the pols, that's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: mrp at April 12, 2024 01:18 PM (rj6Yv)

57 O/T... but.... House passed the FISA bill, the one that they ONLY use against citizens... there is no evidence at all that it has caught foreign spies... and they used it against Jan 6 folks, and President Trump.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 01:18 PM (xaFKb)

58 California is becoming the state where if you move there you can never leave without some sort of penalty.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 12, 2024 01:18 PM (NpAcC)

59 Possible "solution": Customers will have basically have "ticket booth" access in an area protected by a reinforced door that they have to be buzzed in to enter. Once inside they'll use a kiosk to select up to one bag or box full of grocers from the available goods in stock and exit when buzzed out. Haven't worked out how to prevent them from being mugged after being buzzed out though.

If this sounds like a dystopian nightmare, well you've got to work with what ya got!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, Bird Law Expert at April 12, 2024 01:19 PM (snyZJ)

60 48 This is like taxing California residents for moving to Florida.
Posted by: huerfano at April 12, 2024 01:17 PM (VGOMa)

/Looks at the new Calif Exit Tax...

Shit

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 01:19 PM (xaFKb)

61 >>The Jewish Space Laser would be cooler.

I have one of their Printers. Great product.

Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:19 PM (i4Y5V)

62 56 In California, residential house prices in some areas have dropped by 40%.

I'm guessing that for the pols, that's a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: mrp at April 12, 2024 01:18 PM (rj6Yv)

=======

"This is fake news. San Francisco is full and bustling. Commercial rental prices are sky high, and everyone drives an EV. There are more people moving to SF than to FL."
-Joe Xiden, 99.83% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

63 When is the Big One gonna come and sink California into the ocean?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Again, it won't. It's largely on a strike-slip fault, meaning two plates sliding in different directions, NW & SE in this case. And it's just half of the state sliding NW, eventually becoming a suburb of Anchorage in a 100 million years or so.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 12, 2024 01:20 PM (IG4Id)

64 Wow, this insanity was first mooted 40 years ago? The Left has been utterly nuts a lot longer than I used to think.
Posted by: spindrift at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM

When even Diane Feinstein thinks you're an idiot, you should just maybe reevaluate some of your life choices.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 01:20 PM (Wnv9h)

65 New store hours: M-F 1PM - 1:05PM Closed Sat/Sun

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 12, 2024 01:20 PM (Q4IgG)

66 San Francisco come for the gay orgies stay for the street shitting

Posted by: 18-1 at April 12, 2024 01:20 PM (ibTVg)

67 Pismo @Pismo_B 10h Replying to @EndWokeness
Robberies grew 38% last year in Oakland, according to police data. Burglaries increased 23%. Motor vehicle theft jumped 44%. Roughly one of every 30 Oakland residents had a car stolen last year, according to a San Francisco Chronicle analysis.

Liberty Pill Memes @LibertyPillMeme 10h Replying to @EndWokeness
Three thieves stole over $20,000 worth of iPhones, iPads, and MacBooks from Nanuet Apple Store in New York in a mid-day heist.
https://tinyurl.com/2adtj28e
11 seconds; LOUD

Liberty Pill Memes @LibertyPillMeme 10h Replying to @EndWokeness
Another looting in Oakland, California.
https://tinyurl.com/mwubcd22
10 seconds; security forced to watch w/o intervening.

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 12, 2024 01:20 PM (vtyCZ)

68 45 I would call down the Jewish Lightning.
Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (i4Y5V)

Heh. There actually was a dude around where I'm from who would keep opening bars, letting them operate for a little over a year, then burning them down.

They eventually put him in prison, and then his brother opened yet another location under the same name.

That one hasn't burned down yet.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 01:20 PM (UnA8+)

69 >>Again, it won't. It's largely on a strike-slip fault, meaning two plates sliding in different directions, NW & SE in this case. And it's just half of the state sliding NW, eventually becoming a suburb of Anchorage in a 100 million years or so.

Juan de Fuca Plate has to completely subduct for that to happen.

And when it does, it will be fabulous.

Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:21 PM (i4Y5V)

70 Sounds like the lawmakers need a meeting with the supermarket's Local reps late one night.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 12, 2024 01:21 PM (cxkYm)

71 Keep breaking everything to show the people how badly they need you in place to fix all of the problems your fixes keep causing.

Posted by: Drew in MO at April 12, 2024 01:21 PM (AP1zl)

72 nah, the pols will probably slip in a bit that the six month period starts three month before the bill was introduced.

fuckers will never let you be unfucked.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 12, 2024 01:21 PM (B1FKF)

73 So, there have to be people moving to Oakland and SF, right?

I mean, the numbers are net outgoing, but not only outgoing.

So, who's moving to Oakland right now?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

74 One meal a month oughta be enough for anybody.

Posted by: Control freak Karen at April 12, 2024 01:21 PM (Tz8Uw)

75 San Francisco come for the gay orgies stay for the street shitting
Posted by: 18-1 at April 12, 2024 01:20 PM

Or go to the Folsom Street Fair where those overlap!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 01:21 PM (Wnv9h)

76 28 568 emergency calls... 14 arrests.

...and probably 0 convictions.

Posted by: Auspex at April 12, 2024 01:22 PM (j4U/Z)

77 Less food means less shit on the sidewalk. Win.

Posted by: wth at April 12, 2024 01:22 PM (v0R5T)

78 Less food means less shit on the sidewalk. Win.

Posted by: wth at April 12, 2024 01:22 PM (v0R5T)

What a genius plan.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)

79 67 Pismo @Pismo_B 10h Replying to @EndWokeness
Robberies grew 38% last year in Oakland, according to police data. Burglaries increased 23%. Motor vehicle theft jumped 44%. Roughly one of every 30 Oakland residents had a car stolen last year, according to a San Francisco Chronicle analysis.

Liberty Pill Memes @LibertyPillMeme 10h Replying to @EndWokeness
Three thieves stole over $20,000 worth of iPhones, iPads, and MacBooks from Nanuet Apple Store in New York in a mid-day heist.
https://tinyurl.com/2adtj28e
11 seconds; LOUD

Liberty Pill Memes @LibertyPillMeme 10h Replying to @EndWokeness
Another looting in Oakland, California.
https://tinyurl.com/mwubcd22
10 seconds; security forced to watch w/o intervening.
Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 12, 2024 01:20 PM (vtyCZ)
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Almost 10 years ago someone purchased about $8000 in iPads using my stolen credit card. Literally a half hour after I realized it was missing. Same idea, but more discreet. Now it's just brazen daylight burglaries.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, Bird Law Expert at April 12, 2024 01:23 PM (snyZJ)

80 Less food means less shit on the sidewalk. Win.

Posted by: wth at April 12, 2024 01:22 PM (v0R5T)

What a genius plan.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:23 PM

Every cloud has its brown lining.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 01:23 PM (Wnv9h)

81 San Francisco!
Open your Golden Gate!
We've gotta relocate!
Crime's outta sight!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 12, 2024 01:24 PM (wtvvX)

82 Only those stores that are mentally ill and desire to be a punching bag for the marxists in charge should apply.

Posted by: Fed Up to Here at April 12, 2024 01:24 PM (VcHM+)

83 @58 redridinghood-California has been doing this for years now. I moved out of the state to Nevada to work at a power plant east of Reno for a year and a half. Still had to pay California state taxes for six months from the date I left. This was in 2007.

Posted by: JROD at April 12, 2024 01:24 PM (IlL6s)

84 If you're go-ing
to san fran-cisco
be sure to wear
edible flow-ers
in your hair

Posted by: Tiny Tim at April 12, 2024 01:25 PM (i4Y5V)

85 Close them all, now, before the ordinance takes effect.

Posted by: Dave's not here, man at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (raPis)

86 I'm a little hazy on the exact pull quote from the constitution where a private business owner has to get permission from the government to go out of business.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (lTGtQ)

87 The new ordinance would exempt supermarkets and grocery stores that close because of a natural disaster or business circumstances that aren't "reasonably foreseeable."

"Sorry, we have to close today. We couldn't reasonably foresee this level of retardation from the city council, but here we are."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (KbCG3)

88 If I was one of these supermarkets, I would only sell Mayonnaise.

No Hot Sauce!

Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (i4Y5V)

89 Democrats are down with bringing the Soviet style shopping experience to the US, open stores with nothing to sell.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (qZdIZ)

90 If you're go-ing
to san fran-cisco
be sure to wear
edible flow-ers
in your hair
Posted by: Tiny Tim at April 12, 2024 01:25 PM (i4Y5V)

Santa Claus Has AIDS was better.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)

91 yeah. saw a shill on fox news last night touting the dramatic drop in the crime rate in san francisco. nobody pointed out that a possible reason for that is due to all the stuff the cops don't respond to anymore; cops not interested = not counted as a crime.

Posted by: anachronda at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (edU/H)

92 The Grocery Protection Act - SF
......

Man cannot live on fentanyl alone.

Posted by: wth at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (v0R5T)

93 Keeping people from traveling and moving to another state by making them pay a “fee” must violate the Constitution.

I am surprised no one has challenged the unlawful charges.

Posted by: Czech Chick at April 12, 2024 01:27 PM (I6NNh)

94 88 If I was one of these supermarkets, I would only sell Mayonnaise.

No Hot Sauce!
Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (i4Y5V)

No wine, only bourbon.

Gotta keep the AWFLs out too.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 01:27 PM (UnA8+)

95 Just because, I'ma-I'ma gonna'

Cadillac walk baby!

LETS DANCE!

https://tinyurl.com/2b56rrx9

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at April 12, 2024 01:27 PM (X4yCj)

96 Democrats are down with bringing the Soviet style shopping experience to the US, open stores with nothing to sell.
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (qZdIZ)

https://youtu.be/DWAKtYGJZSM

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)

97 Sacramento Bee: In February, California's unemployment rate was the highest in the country. Job losses occurred in almost all the major employment sectors.

Consumer spending was down, too.

"Tech used to be the workhorse of [California's] economy. That's no longer true."

Posted by: mrp at April 12, 2024 01:27 PM (rj6Yv)

98 83 @58 redridinghood-California has been doing this for years now. I moved out of the state to Nevada to work at a power plant east of Reno for a year and a half. Still had to pay California state taxes for six months from the date I left. This was in 2007.
Posted by: JROD at April 12, 2024 01:24 PM (IlL6s)
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If you can work remote (or how long? Who knows), you can move out, while CA still gets it's pound of flesh in payroll taxes, but loses out on sales taxes. Kind of the inverse of illegal immigration where the only taxes they get are sales taxes and registration fees.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, Bird Law Expert at April 12, 2024 01:27 PM (snyZJ)

99 563 calls.

14 arrests.

There's your problem.

Posted by: The_Hoser at April 12, 2024 01:28 PM (N66D6)

100
I thought nothing could be more insane or corrupt than the California high speed train money hole and then they come up with this.

Chicago will make the state owned grocery stores work, though. Real communism hasn't been tried yet, that's all.

Posted by: Auspex at April 12, 2024 01:28 PM (j4U/Z)

101 "Sorry, we have to close today. We couldn't reasonably foresee this level of retardation from the city council, but here we are."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (KbCG3)

I'm sorry, but if you've been running a store in San Francisco for the last 6 months, this level of retardation should be FULLY foreseen.

APPEAL DENIED!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 12, 2024 01:28 PM (wtvvX)

102 So druggie, commie, or jihadi?

@BNONews 1m
BREAKING: Driver of stolen truck intentionally rams Department of Public Safety office in Brenham, Texas, injuring at least 16 people

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 12, 2024 01:28 PM (IG4Id)

103 If I was one of these supermarkets, I would only sell ~~Mayonnaise~~ Miracle Whip.

Posted by: wth at April 12, 2024 01:29 PM (v0R5T)

104 We live in an asylum.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 01:29 PM (yGFFs)

105 56 In California, residential house prices in some areas have dropped by 40%.

I'm guessing that for the pols, that's a feature, not a bug.

making housing more affordable

Posted by: anachronda at April 12, 2024 01:29 PM (edU/H)

106 So druggie, commie, or jihadi?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 12, 2024 01:28 PM (IG4Id)

Yes

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 01:29 PM (dGCAG)

107 @BNONews 1m
BREAKING: Driver of stolen truck intentionally rams Department of Public Safety office in Brenham, Texas, injuring at least 16 people
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 12, 2024 01:28 PM (IG4Id)

Will this affect the ice cream futures?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

108 Why aren't the social workers solving this crisis?

Posted by: Send in the Big Guns at April 12, 2024 01:30 PM (XkeVJ)

109 Otisville
Posted by: junior at April 12, 2024 01:14 PM (8yBQ7)
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OTISVILLE?!!!!!

Posted by: Lex Luthor at April 12, 2024 01:30 PM (cxkYm)

110 If I was one of these supermarkets, I would only sell ~~Mayonnaise~~ Miracle Whip.
Posted by: wth

I heard that in Stewie's voice.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 01:30 PM (WXNFJ)

111 102 Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 12, 2024 01:28 PM (IG4Id)

In the German corridor so either a druggie, or an illegal or Jihadi from IAH or SAT on the run who got creative...

Posted by: sven at April 12, 2024 01:30 PM (X0I7i)

112 San Francisco's street residents live in tents because they can no longer afford yurts and yaks.

Posted by: mrp at April 12, 2024 01:30 PM (rj6Yv)

113 Maybe San Francisco is counting on businesses relocating from Haiti for the slightly better business enviroment. They will have to get used to the fog though. And the crapping on the sidewalk, which, in Haiti, is generally frowned upon.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 12, 2024 01:31 PM (KSkEK)

114

Will this affect the ice cream futures?
Posted by: Sponge

News flash:
The price of doughnuts has fallen due to lack of demand.
Glazed hardest hit.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 12, 2024 01:31 PM (zXWkD)

115 107 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

Well definitely the Oktoberfest ones anyway.

Posted by: sven at April 12, 2024 01:31 PM (X0I7i)

116 Lack of direction action against assholes has consequences.

Nut up, California.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 12, 2024 01:31 PM (xcxpd)

117 Close them all, now, before the ordinance takes effect.

"Gee, we totally didn't see that coming."
-- SF politicians

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 01:31 PM (/y8xj)

118 The new ordinance would exempt supermarkets and grocery stores that close because of a natural disaster or business circumstances that aren't "reasonably foreseeable."

So close immediately and cite criminal activity and the inability to guarantee worker and customer safety as the reasons. If San Francisco denies the exemption, it will have to argue that those conditions are reasonably forseeable in their open sewer of a city.

Posted by: Impudent Warwick at April 12, 2024 01:31 PM (f/6Wb)

119 Wait! You don't need a "Grocery Protection" act! Punchy has the solution...if you can't do things that brick and mortars do without a license...its easy.

No eating or growing vegetables without a grocers' license! See? Problem solved! Now grocers will have no competition and can flourish!

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 01:32 PM (K+UlC)

120 @27

>>Maybe Oakland should vote different.

Very interesting statistics for Oakland CA.

Population: 433K
Registered Voters: 428.8K (???)
Total Votes in 2022 Mayoral election (Final Round): 113K (27pct voter turnout)

Thao won by 627 votes, and got 13pct of total registered voters.

27 pct total turnout is rather impressive though, usually, these things are won by much lower voter turnout, sometimes into the single digits of voter turnout.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 12, 2024 01:32 PM (JIdXK)

121 Every store should give its 6 mo closing notice, every month after give a 1 month advance to stay open 1 more month.

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 01:32 PM (oqmuB)

122 Sounds like a great way to assure that nobody in his right mind would ever open a new grocery store in San Francisco. When a store goes belly-up, there will never be another one to replace the closed store.

The people voted for this, and they are getting it, good and hard.

Posted by: Ralph at April 12, 2024 01:32 PM (TysyT)

123 The result will be that potentially affected stores just send out a notice every 6 months as a matter of course

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 12, 2024 01:32 PM (iFTx/)

124 116 Lack of direction action against assholes has consequences.

Nut up, California.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 12, 2024 01:31 PM (xcxpd)

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I'm pretty sure that's transphobic and exclusionary.

Also dangerously counterrevolutionary and disestablishmentarian.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

125 I'd close before the bill comes into effect.

F em.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 01:33 PM (xaFKb)

126 If I was one of these supermarkets, I would only sell Mayonnaise Miracle Whip.
Posted by: wth

I heard that in Stewie's voice.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 01:30 PM

Why would you want to put so much emphasis on the "h"?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 12, 2024 01:33 PM (Wnv9h)

127 Their solution is to force them to stay open or find a "successor store" which agrees to operate in this crime-ridden area in their place. If they don't, local residents -- minorities, I assume -- are allowed to sue because of Muh Racism.
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Close the same day you clandestinely leave the state. Don't sell the business. Don't have a "going out of business" sale. Don't even lock the doors.

Just leave. Let them attempt to extradite you for it or make you go back to CA to be sued, or forcibly seize your assets.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:33 PM (HnUIn)

128 Nut up, California.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 12, 2024 01:31 PM (xcxpd)

"IT'S MA'AM!!!!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

129 Grocery Protection:

"The bill would also require that grocery stores 'meet and work in good faith with neighborhood residents.'

Oh, THAT kind of "protection."

Posted by: Peter B at April 12, 2024 01:34 PM (HJ+is)

130 So druggie, commie, or jihadi?

@BNONews 1m
BREAKING: Driver of stolen truck intentionally rams Department of Public Safety office in Brenham, Texas, injuring at least 16 people

Guy who failed the test 15 times on the parallel parking part.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 01:34 PM (/y8xj)

131 Business goan be boomin' yo.

Posted by: Arsonists R Us at April 12, 2024 01:34 PM (woPEM)

132 Whole Foods closed its Market Street location last year after there were 568 emergency calls lodged in a 13-month period due to incidents such as vagrants throwing food, yelling, fighting and attempting to defecate on the floor, according to the New York Times. At least 14 arrests were made at the location.
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That's only 1.43 calls per day on average. It was totally unreasonable to close a location just because of that...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:34 PM (HnUIn)

133 Not to worry. If all of the supermarkets close, residents can always hike over to McDonalds and buy a $30 Happy Meal.

Posted by: mrp at April 12, 2024 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)

134 Sounds like a great way to assure that nobody in his right mind would ever open a new grocery store in San Francisco. When a store goes belly-up, there will never be another one to replace the closed store.

The people voted for this, and they are getting it, good and hard.

As I predicted, there are already calls for the government to run taxpayer-subsidized grocery stores, because that's guaranteed to be efficient and customer-responsive.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 01:35 PM (CsUN+)

135 Not to worry. If all of the supermarkets close, residents can always hike over to McDonalds and buy a $30 Happy Meal.

Posted by: mrp at April 12, 2024 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)

McDonald's is having a SALE!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

136 Not to worry. If all of the supermarkets close, residents can always hike over to McDonalds and buy a $30 Happy Meal.
Posted by: mrp

Tangently apropos - Does Mickey D's take EBT cards?

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 01:35 PM (WXNFJ)

137 133 Not to worry. If all of the supermarkets close, residents can always hike over to McDonalds and buy a $30 Happy Meal.
Posted by: mrp at April 12, 2024 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)

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Happy Meals are still about $4 around these parts.

Probably because we're so poor and backwards. Also, the guns keep the higher prices away.

No one should move here.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

138 If a store closes without providing notice to the Board of Supervisors as well as the Office of Economic and Workforce Development (OEWD) those affected by the closure would be entitled to sue for damages, according to the language of the proposed ordinance.
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There is limitless potential for arbitrary and contradictory enforcement here.

"Affected?" How? By what standard? Quantified in what manner?

Also, businesses are not obligated to remain in business. That someone depends on a business is irrelevant. Their dependency is not a factor. The business owner has the right to close up shop if he wants to. Change that, and game over and rightly so.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:36 PM (HnUIn)

139 I'm pretty sure that's transphobic and exclusionary.

Also dangerously counterrevolutionary and disestablishmentarian.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

/Channels Mary Poppins... sings..

Super Calif Fuckin Vicious Exit all Addddddooocious..

Even though forced living here is something quite atrocioussss...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 01:36 PM (xaFKb)

140 134 As I predicted, there are already calls for the government to run taxpayer-subsidized grocery stores, because that's guaranteed to be efficient and customer-responsive.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 01:35 PM (CsUN+)

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Hopefully they'll stock the shelves with free goods for the people since it's unfair to expect the poor to pay.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:36 PM (GBKbO)

141 125 I'd close before the bill comes into effect.
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That's what I was thinking. Any grocer with marginal stores has a real incentive to close up shop now.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 12, 2024 01:36 PM (woPEM)

142 This is some fancy dancin'

(watch it all)

LETS DANCE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7nAs88tVBg

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at April 12, 2024 01:36 PM (X4yCj)

143 138 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:36 PM (HnUIn)

The disintegration of American character is just about complete.

Posted by: sven at April 12, 2024 01:36 PM (X0I7i)

144 It is now illegal for businesses to go bankrupt. Going bankrupt causes negative effects in the people, and everything is done in service to the people.

Bankruptcy is now forbidden. So is reduction *or* increase in services. It is essential to maintain total stability.

Posted by: Communists at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (HnUIn)

145 This is like Obamacare

government forcing private individuals to engage in a certain form of commerce under pain of the law

sidenote: I am not a Constitutional scholar

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (oCjPU)

146 Hey, let's open a grocery store in San Francisco!

Posted by: Soon-to-be-Fired Executive at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (qUkBO)

147 As I predicted, there are already calls for the government to run taxpayer-subsidized grocery stores, because that's guaranteed to be efficient and customer-responsive.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 01:35 PM (CsUN+)

Yes, Citizen, embrace the State's new Five Year Plan!

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (xaFKb)

148 If your car is stolen in San Francisco are you required to supply another one for the thieves?

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (X3wQn)

149 This is like Obamacare

government forcing private individuals to engage in a certain form of commerce under pain of the law

sidenote: I am not a Constitutional scholar
Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (oCjPU)

Auto liability insurance.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)

150 Not to worry. If all of the supermarkets close, residents can always hike over to McDonalds and buy a $30 Happy Meal.

Drive through only and they'll send your food through a pneumatic tube like a bank.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 01:38 PM (/y8xj)

151 If your car is stolen in San Francisco are you required to supply another one for the thieves?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (X3wQn)

It will be on you to sue the auto manufacturer for making the car stealable.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

152 Hey, let's open a grocery store in San Francisco!
Posted by: Soon-to-be~~-Fired~~-Richly-Rewarded Executive with a YUGE golden parachute at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (qUkBO)
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FIFY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:38 PM (HnUIn)

153 Guy who failed the test 15 times on the parallel parking part.
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Chinese illegal alien.

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 12, 2024 01:38 PM (vtyCZ)

154 So, be looted out of existence. Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 12, 2024 01:39 PM (GIzpt)

155 As I predicted, there are already calls for the government to run taxpayer-subsidized grocery stores, because that's guaranteed to be efficient and customer-responsive.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 01:35 PM (CsUN+)
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Heh. Just like in Red China before Deng, and just like Red China again, coming soon under Xi!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:39 PM (HnUIn)

156 152 Hey, let's open a grocery store in San Francisco!
Posted by: Soon-to-be-Fired-Richly-Rewarded Executive with a YUGE golden parachute at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (qUkBO)
++++
FIFY
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:38 PM (HnUIn)

=======
Large investment firms will make sure the stock price goes up by the end of the quarter. The executives will get massive bonuses. The plan will never move forward.

Success!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

157 If your car is stolen in San Francisco are you required to supply another one for the thieves?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (X3wQn)
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Yes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 12, 2024 01:39 PM (7fElN)

158

So that’s Communism isnt it?

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (eDUcf)

159 If your car is stolen in San Francisco are you required to supply another one for the thieves?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (X3wQn)
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Soon

Posted by: San Francisco City Council at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (HnUIn)

160
Hellman's may be owned by the Chinese but that or Duke's are the only acceptable brands.

Miracle Whip is not mayonnaise.

Posted by: Auspex at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (j4U/Z)

161 As I predicted, there are already calls for the government to run taxpayer-subsidized grocery stores, because that's guaranteed to be efficient and customer-responsive.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 01:35 PM (CsUN+)

"You don't need 15 types of deodorant to choose from."

- - - - - Bernie Sanders

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (Zz0t1)

162 San Francisco, where the most lefty, stupid, anti-American ideas go to flourish, and by flourish I mean fail miserably.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (JeYYB)

163 LETS DANCE!
Posted by: Jimmy Carter
===
🕺 🕺 🕺🕺

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (vtyCZ)

164 >"The bill would also require that grocery stores 'meet and work in good faith with neighborhood residents.'

it's the neighborhood residents who are looting the stores

(I know this is an obvious point, but still)

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (oCjPU)

165 158

So that’s Communism isnt it?

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (eDUcf)

Communism, the government owns industry...

It's Fascism when the Government basically controls, but does not own, industry.

ism.... 101.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 01:41 PM (xaFKb)

166 Hellman's may be owned by the Chinese but that or Duke's are the only acceptable brands.

No, Duke's is the ONLY brand.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:41 PM (9yWhg)

167 I can think of a slightly better rule--allow store-owners to shoot anybody committing theft in their store.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:41 PM (XMwZJ)

168 I don't want no dink mayo

what about Kraft

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:41 PM (oCjPU)

169
Miracle Whip is not mayonnaise.
Posted by: Auspex at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (j4U/Z)

They say it's not right there on the label. It's salad dressing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

170 Vegetable deserts! Fruit Deserts!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 12, 2024 01:42 PM (R4t5M)

171 sidenote: I am not a Constitutional scholar
Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (oCjPU)

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Neither is that fuck face, Roberts.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 01:42 PM (JeYYB)

172 158

So that’s Communism isnt it?

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (eDUcf)

=======

"Communism has never been tried. Also, America was evil for opposing communist states like the Soviet Union by not trading with them enough to help their economies. Also, Cuba is a communist paradise. Also, all communism that has been tried are actually fascist dictatorships, but San Francisco has all the right people to get it right this time. Also, we're in unfettered capitalism right now which is why people are struggling. Also, we've made so much progressive progress towards utopia and we have to push further."
-DU, 99.61% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

173 So that’s Communism isnt it?
Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at April 12, 2024 01:40 PM (eDUcf)
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Eh, not exactly.

In communism, the state would seize the store, run it into the ground, then arrest you as a wrecker and expropriate your assets for distribution to Party members.

In this hybrid system, the state compels you to continue operating the store until it consumes all your assets, then decries you as a wrecker when you go bankrupt and fail anyway - unless you disobey them by closing up shop, in which case the state allows a Party member to expropriate your assets through civil litigation because you're a wrecker.

Communism is, bluntly, more honest than this.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:42 PM (HnUIn)

174 The mayonnaise wars, begun they have. And...yeah, Duke's is the only acceptable brand of mayo. IMHO, of course.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:42 PM (XMwZJ)

175 They say it's not right there on the label. It's salad dressing.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Whatever it is, they can keep that tangy zip to themselves.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (ftFVW)

176 Calizuela, two years ahead of schedule.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (qUkBO)

177 ...attempting to defecate on the floor...

*********

Need more fiber.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (991eG)

178 Whatever it is, they can keep that tangy zip to themselves.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (ftFVW)

You will get no argument from me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (Zz0t1)

179 by what authority does govt tell me when I can shutter my business

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (oCjPU)

180 173 Communism is, bluntly, more honest than this.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:42 PM (HnUIn)

=======

To be fair, textbook communism is a fantasy of people without any distinctions all working diligently all the time and providing each other while never asking for more for themselves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

181 Begun, the Mayo Wars have.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (T+Iwg)

182 Joe Mannix...I think the hybrid system you've described is called fascism.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:44 PM (XMwZJ)

183 166 No, Duke's is the ONLY brand.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:41 PM (9yWhg)

Take THAT, You Yankee Pricks!

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 01:44 PM (UnA8+)

184 No, Duke's is the ONLY brand.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:41 PM (9yWhg)
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Duke's for everything other than italian sandwiches. Then it has to be the mayo that the deli buys from Sysco in a 5-gallon bucket.

Posted by: ballistic at April 12, 2024 01:44 PM (oqH4h)

185 To be fair, textbook communism is a fantasy of people without any distinctions all working diligently all the time and providing each other while never asking for more for themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (GBKbO)
++++
To be fair, fantasy stories do not reflect reality.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:44 PM (HnUIn)

186 181 Begun, the Mayo Wars have.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (T+Iwg)

White on White violence.... OK according to the MSM.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 01:44 PM (xaFKb)

187 To be fair, textbook communism is a fantasy of people without any distinctions all working diligently all the time and providing each other while never asking for more for themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

"Socialism/Communism has failed only because they didn't do it correctly."

- - - - - - John F'n Kerry

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)

188 Joe Mannix...I think the hybrid system you've described is called fascism.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:44 PM (XMwZJ)
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That's a closer match than communism, yeah. This version is more centrally focused on looting, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:45 PM (HnUIn)

189 185 To be fair, fantasy stories do not reflect reality.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:44 PM (HnUIn)

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Except Buckaroo Banzai and the original Conan stories.

Those are real.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

190 Make your mayo. It's the easiest thing to do.

Takes about 3 minutes and that includes gathering the oil, lemon, eggs, salt, and whatever else you want to use to flavor your mayo.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 01:45 PM (JeYYB)

191 So will the city be liable for any employee or customer injured/killed during the 6 month period the store is prevented from closing?

Posted by: Sneff at April 12, 2024 01:45 PM (NMcHm)

192 Can your read English, and understand it? Then you're a constitutional scholar.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:45 PM (XMwZJ)

193 179 by what authority does govt tell me when I can shutter my business
Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (oCjPU)

The Good and Plenty clause of the Constitution!

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (xaFKb)

194 @109 OTISVILLE?!!!!!

--------

It's just a tiny little place...

Sorry, Mr. Luthor...

Posted by: junior at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (8yBQ7)

195 DAMMIT

Kraft is actually Kraft-Heinz
which means when I buy a Kraft product I am putting money in John Kerry's pocket

I need a new mayonnaise

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (oCjPU)

196 Hopefully they'll stock the shelves with free goods for the people since it's unfair to expect the poor to pay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I'm okay with that BUT, rice and beans only. Only. And no other food support. And some provision that ensures no reselling at a profit.

There's more surely but I'm only on my 2nd beer.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (WXNFJ)

197 Duke's is endorsed by this Yankee prick.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (R4t5M)

198 I see stories like this and I worry about San Franpsycho and SFGoth and gourmand du jour. We may need to start mailing them food.

Posted by: bluebell at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (bS+DD)

199 Yabba dabba do

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (oqmuB)

200 192 Can your read English, and understand it? Then you're a constitutional scholar.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:45 PM (XMwZJ)

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Agree.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (JeYYB)

201 So will the city be liable for any employee or customer injured/killed during the 6 month period the store is prevented from closing?
Posted by: Sneff at April 12, 2024 01:45 PM (NMcHm)
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Of course not. Security is the responsibility of the business owner. In the event of a security failure, well, that is what civil liability is for - and offsetting that liability is the reason for insurance.

Posted by: Activist at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (HnUIn)

202 To be fair, fantasy stories do not reflect reality.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:44 PM (HnUIn)

Except for pr0n. That's real, right?

Posted by: guy watching a tranny and hung midget romance a donkey at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (XkeVJ)

203 195 I need a new mayonnaise
Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (oCjPU)

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According to ace, the real expensive stuff is keto friendly. Also, you can make your own pretty easily.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

204 If your car is stolen in San Francisco are you required to supply another one for the thieves?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 12, 2024 01:37 PM (X3wQn)

Under the Punchy admin you'll need a license to have your car stolen...

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (K+UlC)

205 Can your read English, and understand it? Then you're a constitutional scholar.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

I can't forgive the Drafters for spelling "choose" as "chuse." Always bugs me.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM (9yWhg)

206 So that’s Communism isnt it?

Well, technically no. The "means of production" are still owned by individuals or corporations. It's just that the government has complete control over how they're run. There might be a word for that.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (/y8xj)

207 192 Can your read English, and understand it? Then you're a constitutional scholar.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:45 PM (XMwZJ)

As I pointed out many many moons ago... there are TWO reasons to study something.

1. to support it...
2. to figure out how to destroy it...

Obama was a 'Constitutional Scholar'...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (xaFKb)

208 "You don't need 15 types of deodorant to choose from."

- - - - - Bernie Sanders- owner of 4 homes
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden a
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Fixed that for you.

Posted by: Lex Luthor at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (cxkYm)

209 To be fair, that Sysco mayo is pretty dang good.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (XMwZJ)

210 What if Iran already launched a retaliatory strike on Israel and no one noticed?

Posted by: Everyday Rockets at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (qUkBO)

211 by what authority does govt tell me when I can shutter my business
Posted by: Don Black

By the Good & Plenty Clause.

As in, "We are gonna f*ck you good & plenty before we're done!"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (i8ZU2)

212 "Make your mayo."

Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?

Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (Tz8Uw)

213 WAIT

Hellman's has been owned by Unilever (British) since 2000

okay
it's gonna be okay

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (oCjPU)

214 OTISVILLE?!!!!!

I remember it as "Otisberg."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:48 PM (9yWhg)

215 Obama is to scholarship as Hillary is to exercise.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 12, 2024 01:48 PM (JeYYB)

216 214 OTISVILLE?!!!!!

I remember it as "Otisberg."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:48 PM (9yWhg)

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Yeah, it's berg.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

217 I can't forgive the Drafters for spelling "choose" as "chuse." Always bugs me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:46 PM
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Get foocked.

Posted by: The Drafters at April 12, 2024 01:49 PM (cxkYm)

218 - - - - - Bernie Sanders- owner of 4 homes
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden a
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Fixed that for you.
Posted by: Lex Luthor at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (cxkYm)

"You simply need to write a book like I did!"

= - - - - 4 Home Bernie

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

219 I remember it as "Otisberg."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:48 PM (9yWhg)

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Yeah, it's berg.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Woo hoo! Now I'm a movie nerd like TJM!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:49 PM (9yWhg)

220 If the supermarkets go they can always use Door dash or Uber Eats. Oh wait they are leaving because of the min wage and taxes on independent contractors. Well guess they starve

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 12, 2024 01:49 PM (ixVYR)

221 >>To be fair, that Sysco mayo is pretty dang good.

That's. Not. Mayo.

Posted by: Animal Husbandry Technician at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (i4Y5V)

222 219
Woo hoo! Now I'm a movie nerd like TJM!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:49 PM (9yWhg)

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I thought we had already established this.

I am only an asshole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

223 To be fair, that Sysco mayo is pretty dang good.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (XMwZJ)

Their ketchup is pretty good too.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

224 Yeah, it's berg.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Woo hoo! Now I'm a movie nerd like TJM!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:49 PM (9yWhg)

NERDS!!!!

Posted by: Ogre at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (xaFKb)

225 >I can't forgive the Drafters for spelling "choose" as "chuse." Always bugs me.

and f where s should be

Congreff

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (oCjPU)

226 My only problem with Duke's is that it's packaged as a damn mayonnaise cannon.

Seriously, you could shove a stub of 1/2" EMT through that hole.

I don't need half the damn bottle glorped onto the middle of my burger, Duke.

Do better.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (LsETW)

227 224 NERDS!!!!
Posted by: Ogre at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (xaFKb)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

228 Well, nice to see the Stinking Rose in SF is still open. Last time I was in SF in 2001 garlic oozed from my pores for 2 days.

Now SF is just stinking.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 12, 2024 01:51 PM (YIxO9)

229 Ho-Ho and Twinkie deserts!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 12, 2024 01:51 PM (R4t5M)

230 No, Duke's is the ONLY brand.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 01:41 PM (9yWhg)

Amen, brother.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 12, 2024 01:51 PM (XPM1I)

231 Solution. Announce store will close for good in 9 months.

At the three month mark, pull EVERYTHING from the store down to the last roll of toilet paper in the restroom.

Leave the lights on and the doors unlocked and two security guards inside.

You are still in business. Your doors are still open.
Fuck everyone.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 01:51 PM (i8ZU2)

232 I am only an asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

Yes but you're our movie asshole.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 01:51 PM (LsETW)

233 231 You are still in business. Your doors are still open.
Fuck everyone.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 01:51 PM (i8ZU2)

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Those security guards are gonna get chaffed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

234
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT BUSH.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at April 12, 2024 01:52 PM (Zz0t1)

235 Those security guards are gonna get chaffed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:51 PM (GBKbO)
++++
Fair.

Continue to stock only anti-chafing cream.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:52 PM (HnUIn)

236 I don't call it Califzuela for nothin' ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 01:52 PM (lJLR8)

237 Fudge round desert would help this country out.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 12, 2024 01:52 PM (ftFVW)

238 >>I am only an asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

I was just playing Ultraman (pinball), this morning.

Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:52 PM (i4Y5V)

239 never had Duke's mayo
may try it next time

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:53 PM (oCjPU)

240 $100 cover charge to grocery shop. Cashier will give you a refund on your way out.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 01:53 PM (LsETW)

241 Fudge round desert would help this country out.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 12, 2024 01:52 PM (ftFVW)

I saw Fudge Tunnel open for Flay of Soul at Trees in '94.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

242 To be fair, textbook communism is a fantasy of people without any distinctions all working diligently all the time and providing each other while never asking for more for themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

Its even more fanciful than that - it believes that people will, without any coercion at all, freely impoverish themselves to provide others their assets, who will then freely go onto impoverish themselves by offering theirs, etc. in perpetuity. Then...profit!

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 01:54 PM (K+UlC)

243 I am surprised no one has challenged the unlawful charges.
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I *think* Chicago/Cook County have a penalty tax if you move your business out of their fiefdom. I can't see how any of this is Constitutional.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 12, 2024 01:54 PM (lPeS+)

244 Tnever had Duke's mayo
may try it next time
Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:53 PM (oCjPU)

The best college football bowl game is the Duke's Mayo bowl. The winning coach has a cooler full of mayo dumped on his head.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 12, 2024 01:54 PM (XPM1I)

245 I saw Fudge Tunnel open for Flay of Soul at Trees in '94.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Imagine I wouldn't admit to seeing a fudge tunnel open.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (ftFVW)

246 242 Its even more fanciful than that - it believes that people will, without any coercion at all, freely impoverish themselves to provide others their assets, who will then freely go onto impoverish themselves by offering theirs, etc. in perpetuity. Then...profit!
Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 01:54 PM (K+UlC)

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"Not at all! It will lead to increased wealth for humanity!"
-Old School Communists

"Perfect. Impoverish everyone."
-New School Communists

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

247 Are the Dems still trying to imprison their political opponents and confiscating their assets?

Posted by: mrp at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (rj6Yv)

248 There's an awful lot of underpants gnome-ing in doctrinaire Marxism.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (LsETW)

249 "Make your mayo."

Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?
Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at April 12, 2024 01:47 PM (Tz8Uw)

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Mayo Pete at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (v0R5T)

250 247 Are the Dems still trying to imprison their political opponents and confiscating their assets?
Posted by: mrp at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (rj6Yv)

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"Did Trump still try to secure the border?"
-Mitch McConnell's chief of staff

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

251
Imagine I wouldn't admit to seeing a fudge tunnel open.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (ftFVW)

It's ok if she's hot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)

252 >>There's an awful lot of underpants gnome-ing in doctrinaire Marxism.

Marxism is merely a Type of Utilitarianism.

We must kill ALL the Utilitarians.

Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:56 PM (i4Y5V)

253 How many stores will close up shop before this takes effect?
Posted by: Spong

*********

Already Thought of That - a limerick

That would have a disparate impact, bro
It's a hateful and despicable act, so...
They almost certainly will
Have that covered in the bill
They'll prosecute you... ex post facto1

Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 01:56 PM (991eG)

254 $100 cover charge to grocery shop. Cashier will give you a refund on your way out.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Most people couldn't float a $100.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 01:56 PM (i8ZU2)

255 Marxism is merely a Type of Utilitarianism.

We must kill ALL the Utilitarians.
Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:56 PM (i4Y5V)
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It's also a type of utopianism.

Same prescription.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (HnUIn)

256 Re That's. Not. Mayo.
Was up in Washington state, in the Olympic forest, in some posh'ish restaurant for breakfast. They had some really good strawberry jam on the table in a little fancy serving container. We all raved about it. Asked the waiter where it came from--did they make it themselves? His response--no, it came in a giant barrel from Sysco.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (XMwZJ)

257 248 There's an awful lot of underpants gnome-ing in doctrinaire Marxism.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (LsETW)

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Step 1: Proletariat revolution that kills the bougies.
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Classless utopia that provides for everyone.

My summary of The Communist Manifesto.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

258 facto!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (991eG)

259 Solution. Announce store will close for good in 9 months.

At the three month mark, pull EVERYTHING from the store down to the last roll of toilet paper in the restroom.

Leave the lights on and the doors unlocked and two security guards inside.

You are still in business. Your doors are still open.
Fuck everyone.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 01:51 PM (i8ZU2)

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I'd empty it and burn it to the ground.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (lJLR8)

260 We must kill ALL the Utilitarians.
Posted by: garrett at April 12, 2024 01:56 PM (i4Y5V)

Tear down old Jezza and burn him in his own effigy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (LsETW)

261 Take some time to also consider the following, on a much larger scale:

Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senator Bob Casey (D-PA), Chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP) Subcommittee on Children & Families, introduced the Shrinkflation Prevention Act to crack down on corporations that deceive consumers by selling smaller sizes of their products without lowering the prices. ...

The Shrinkflation Prevention Act would:

Direct the FTC to promulgate regulations to establish shrinkflation as an unfair or deceptive act or practice, prohibiting manufacturers from engaging in shrinkflation
Authorize FTC to pursue civil actions against corporations who engage in shrinkflation
Authorize state attorneys general to bring civil actions against corporations engaging in shrinkflation
This legislation is cosponsored by U.S. Senators Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Jacky Rosen (D-NV), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Patty Murray (D-WA), and Bernie Sanders (I-VT).

The huge raises in shipping & transportation industries aren't factored in, apparently.

This is more federal control & many more future job losses.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (NFX2v)

262 Wesley Crouch must have written that new law.

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (Gv2Zc)

263 > I can't see how any of this is Constitutional.

it's that fiendish Commerce Clause, which has been construed by courts over the decades to have an effect on every single detail of human endeavor

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (oCjPU)

264 It's ok if she's hot.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

And...... I snorted!

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (ftFVW)

265 Universal Food Care ...is The Answer. Everyone has a right to eat.

Universal Housing Care ... Everyone has a right to a nice home in a safe neighborhood.

Universal Education Care ... Everyone has a right to free college, so they can better serve the nation.

solutions are easy ... some may say I'm a dreamer, but (unfortunately) I'm not the only one.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 12, 2024 01:58 PM (Cus5s)

266 263 > I can't see how any of this is Constitutional.

it's that fiendish Commerce Clause, which has been construed by courts over the decades to have an effect on every single detail of human endeavor
Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (oCjPU)

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I was gonna grow some beans and eat them myself, but then experts told me it would affect the price of beans across the nation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

267
And...... I snorted!

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (ftFVW)

Winning!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:58 PM (Zz0t1)

268 Imagine I wouldn't admit to seeing a fudge tunnel open.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 12, 2024 01:55 PM (ftFVW)

It's ok if she's hot.
Posted by: Sponge

Fudge Factory in Uranus, Mo. where they will pack your fudge while it's still warm.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 01:58 PM (i8ZU2)

269 >I'd empty it and burn it to the ground.

Sounds good. Henry, you and Tommy take care of it.

-Paulie

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 01:58 PM (oCjPU)

270 This legislation is cosponsored by U.S. Senators Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Jacky Rosen (D-NV), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Patty Murray (D-WA), and Bernie Sanders (I-VT).

A concise list of the biggest a-hoes in the Senate.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 12, 2024 01:59 PM (WXNFJ)

271
Fudge Factory in Uranus, Mo. where they will pack your fudge while it's still warm.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 01:58 PM (i8ZU2)

Oh yeah, they also have a location in Butte, MT

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 01:59 PM (LsETW)

272
Fudge Factory in Uranus, Mo. where they will pack your fudge while it's still warm.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 01:58 PM (i8ZU2)

Drove by that on the way to Indy for Marching Band Nationals a few years ago.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)

273 If they are smart any store considering it will close right freaking now, before any such law is passed.

Then it can all be blamed on the city council forcing their hands.

Posted by: Gosport at April 12, 2024 01:59 PM (ZORrM)

274 "I suppose a b*****b is out if the question."

I suppose creating a business-friendly environment is out of the question.

Posted by: mnw at April 12, 2024 01:59 PM (NLIak)

275 How socialist of SF. Next you know, they'll go full-blown commie and take those stores away from the proletariat. Don't worry: the kulaks will be next.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 01:59 PM (ynpvh)

276 It would be cheaper for these businesses to hire the mob--who would hunt down any asshole who so much as pilfered a stick of gum and leave their mutilated corpse hanging from a street lamp--as an example for others. Word would quickly get around, and problem solved.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 12, 2024 01:59 PM (XMwZJ)

277
"I remember the old days when we used to argue about mayonnaise. Of course, we all know now how bleached creamed bug sauce is so much better for us and the planet."

Posted by: Auspex at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (j4U/Z)

278 Universal Food Care ...is The Answer. Everyone has a right to eat.

Universal Housing Care ... Everyone has a right to a nice home in a safe neighborhood.

Universal Education Care ... Everyone has a right to free college, so they can better serve the nation.

solutions are easy ... some may say I'm a dreamer, but (unfortunately) I'm not the only one.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 12, 2024 01:58 PM (Cus5s)
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Ah, but which "universal?"

You can have universal coverage *or* universal access. You cannot have both simultaneously. If you have universal coverage (anything and everything is covered), then you will have limited access (artificial rationing). If you have access to everything (no rationing), then nothing will be covered (everything is on a cash basis - you have to pay directly).

So which "universal" is the vision here?

Yeah, I know. Both, of course, because magic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

279 Fudge Factory in Uranus, Mo. where they will pack your fudge while it's still warm.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 01:58 PM (i8ZU2)

Drove by that on the way to Indy for Marching Band Nationals a few years ago.
Posted by: Sponge

It's a cool place. And marketing genius.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (i8ZU2)

280 Most of the commies I've encountered online seem to think that under Communism, they're just gonna draw Gay Cartoon Porn all day.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (UnA8+)

281 278 So which "universal" is the vision here?

Yeah, I know. Both, of course, because magic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

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They did it in Star Trek!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

282 Yeah, I know. Both, of course, because magic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

Robot Doctors.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:01 PM (LsETW)

283 My free shit, want it, I do.

Posted by: Eromero at April 12, 2024 02:01 PM (qIFqu)

284 Takes about 3 minutes and that includes gathering the oil, lemon, eggs, salt, and whatever else you want to use to flavor your mayo.
Posted by: Seems Legit

And free salmonella~! What's not to like?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 12, 2024 02:01 PM (IG4Id)

285 280 Most of the commies I've encountered online seem to think that under Communism, they're just gonna draw Gay Cartoon Porn all day.
Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (UnA8+)

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Well, they can. In the food lines.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

286 What San Francisco needs is a whole lot more Harry Callahan.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 12, 2024 02:01 PM (mupln)

287 Most of the commies I've encountered online seem to think that under Communism, they're just gonna draw Gay Cartoon Porn all day.
Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (UnA8+)

"Jenem nach seiner fähigkeit..."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:01 PM (LsETW)

288 It's also a type of utopianism.
Same prescription.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (HnUIn)

It suggests that, yes - but without being bothered by the requirement of showing how it actually happens - it just happens!

It was always mystical, immature thinking, not an actually organizing principle for government with an economic model. Marx couldn't be bothered with explaining end game stuff like this - he had suffering peasants to be herded!

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (K+UlC)

289 Wesley Crouch must have written that new law.

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at April 12, 2024 01:57 PM (Gv2Zc)

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* Wesley Mouch and Atlas Shrugged have entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (lJLR8)

290 They have not only found a way to force businesses out of the city, they've figured out how to make 100% certain no new businesses move in.

#Progress

Posted by: 29Victor at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (+zaZH)

291 288 It was always mystical, immature thinking, not an actually organizing principle for government with an economic model. Marx couldn't be bothered with explaining end game stuff like this - he had suffering peasants to be herded!
Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (K+UlC)

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"I needed a break. He went off to scribble. Who knew it would get out of hand?"
-Engels, massaging his backside

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

292 What San Francisco needs is a whole lot more Harry Callahan.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 12, 2024 02:01 PM (mupln)

Watched The Enforcer yesterday. Greatness.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)

293
"Club" or 'Cooperative' grocery stores for members only.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 12, 2024 02:03 PM (RKVpM)

294 They did it in Star Trek!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
++++
Which was bullshit anyway. The implication was that it was achievable because the Trek universe was truly post-scarcity - thanks in large part to the replicators - and so in the absence of scarcity, self-interest reduced and passion overtook markets, resulting in a cooperative pseudo-utopia.

Except that was nonsense, because the fundamental input - energy - that made their post-scarcity world work was still scarce. In Trek universe, there would be money and the money would be dilithium (or proxied through dilithium - a dilithium-backed currency).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:03 PM (HnUIn)

295 Thanks, FF. Why no, I really didn't mean to update and restart.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:03 PM (ynpvh)

296 Most of the commies I've encountered online seem to think that under Communism, they're just gonna draw Gay Cartoon Porn all day.
Posted by: XTC

Because I will, h8r!

Posted by: Shut up, I'm a Creative! at April 12, 2024 02:03 PM (ftFVW)

297 It suggests that, yes - but without being bothered by the requirement of showing how it actually happens - it just happens!

It was always mystical, immature thinking, not an actually organizing principle for government with an economic model. Marx couldn't be bothered with explaining end game stuff like this - he had suffering peasants to be herded!

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (K+UlC)

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Everything you need to know about Marx is that he was a Satanist.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 02:04 PM (lJLR8)

298 294 Except that was nonsense, because the fundamental input - energy - that made their post-scarcity world work was still scarce. In Trek universe, there would be money and the money would be dilithium (or proxied through dilithium - a dilithium-backed currency).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:03 PM (HnUIn)

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"You keep your dilithium."
-Quark, hoarding his gold-pressed latinum

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

299 The Shrinkflation Prevention Act would:

Direct the FTC to promulgate regulations to establish shrinkflation as an unfair or deceptive act or practice, prohibiting manufacturers from engaging in shrinkflation
Authorize FTC to pursue civil actions against corporations who engage in shrinkflation
Authorize state attorneys general to bring civil actions against corporations engaging in shrinkflation
This legislation is cosponsored by U.S. Senators Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Jacky Rosen (D-NV), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Patty Murray (D-WA), and Bernie Sanders (I-VT).

The huge raises in shipping & transportation industries aren't factored in, apparently.

This is more federal control & many more future job losses.

Posted by: L

That is a huge amount of government interference to overcome government incompetence. Why don't they just stop spending more than they take in, or shut down the printing press they own?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 02:04 PM (lTGtQ)

300 It suggests that, yes - but without being bothered by the requirement of showing how it actually happens - it just happens!

It was always mystical, immature thinking, not an actually organizing principle for government with an economic model. Marx couldn't be bothered with explaining end game stuff like this - he had suffering peasants to be herded!
Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (K+UlC)
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Utopianism is always mystical. Do this, achieve Utopia. The middle steps are never clarified.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:04 PM (HnUIn)

301 Takes about 3 minutes and that includes gathering the oil, lemon, eggs, salt, and whatever else you want to use to flavor your mayo.
Posted by: Seems Legit

And free salmonella~! What's not to like?
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Alton Brown did an ep of Good Eats about making your own mayo. It's interesting what he had to say about the salmonella angle. Basically, IIRC, you have to leave it out unrefrigerated for a certain period of time so that the acid in the ingredients has to time to kill off the salmonella.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 12, 2024 02:04 PM (9yWhg)

302 They have not only found a way to force businesses out of the city, they've figured out how to make 100% certain no new businesses move in.

#Progress
Posted by: 29Victor

So victory via attrition.

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 12, 2024 02:05 PM (ftFVW)

303 Shopping by appointment only

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 02:05 PM (oCjPU)

304 That is a huge amount of government interference to overcome government incompetence. Why don't they just stop spending more than they take in, or shut down the printing press they own?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 02:04 PM (lTGtQ)
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Heh. Sure.

Posted by: Government at April 12, 2024 02:05 PM (HnUIn)

305 300 Utopianism is always mystical. Do this, achieve Utopia. The middle steps are never clarified.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:04 PM (HnUIn)

=======

"How do you get the leaders of the revolution to give up power?"

"They will be new Socialist Men who will have no self-interest, only interest for the good of the community."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:05 PM (GBKbO)

306 286 What San Francisco needs is a whole lot more Harry Callahan.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 12, 2024 02:01 PM (mupln)

He did make a fine brake pad.

Posted by: My Dog's name is Lucky at April 12, 2024 02:05 PM (z+89e)

307 >And free salmonella~! What's not to like?
Posted by: weft cut-loop

exactly
my luck, I'd poison myself

Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 02:05 PM (oCjPU)

308 294 They did it in Star Trek!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Which was bullshit anyway. The implication was that it was achievable because the Trek universe was truly post-scarcity - thanks in large part to the replicators - and so in the absence of scarcity, self-interest reduced and passion overtook markets, resulting in a cooperative pseudo-utopia.

Except that was nonsense, because the fundamental input - energy - that made their post-scarcity world work was still scarce. In Trek universe, there would be money and the money would be dilithium (or proxied through dilithium - a dilithium-backed currency).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:03 PM (HnUIn)

Yup. In a finite universe (or one with a large enough size to make resources difficult to get to), there is a finite amount of usable energy. I mean, even if you could mine anti-matter in some parts of the local galaxy, it's still rare, and it takes energy to make, collect, and contain antimatter if you can't find it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

309 They have not only found a way to force businesses out of the city, they've figured out how to make 100% certain no new businesses move in.

#Progress
Posted by: 29Victor at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (+zaZH)

Something tells me that was the idea. A socialist utopia, where people can get what they need, and nobody has to pay for anything.

It's the forced labor thing that creates a hiccup. Maybe that's what all the illegals are for, we're importing slaves again.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM (dGCAG)

310 303 Shopping by appointment only
Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 02:05 PM (oCjPU)

Make the memberships expensive enough so that the Thugs and Gangbangers can't afford one.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM (UnA8+)

311 The Dow is down almost 2k in the last 2 weeks. That's a roughly 5% correction. Bad news for Biden.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM (CsUN+)

312 261 L

I'm hoping for a Claire McCaskill-type happy ending to the Senator Jackie Rosen (D-NV) problem in November.

Probably not, though.

NV sends a ballot to every registered voter, no request necessary.

Posted by: mnw at April 12, 2024 02:07 PM (NLIak)

313 "Club" or 'Cooperative' grocery stores for members only.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Better have some strong doors and a swat response team when the yutes crash it.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 02:07 PM (i8ZU2)

314 The Dow is down almost 2k in the last 2 weeks. That's a roughly 5% correction. Bad news for Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM (CsUN+)
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Pfft. Not even close to "bear market" territory. Just a brief correction because of Israel and Russia, and the fundamentals are strong.

Posted by: FinanceTV at April 12, 2024 02:07 PM (HnUIn)

315 308 Yup. In a finite universe (or one with a large enough size to make resources difficult to get to), there is a finite amount of usable energy. I mean, even if you could mine anti-matter in some parts of the local galaxy, it's still rare, and it takes energy to make, collect, and contain antimatter if you can't find it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

As long as resources are finite, Men must compete, and kill in order to secure them.

As it ever was, as it ever shall be.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:07 PM (UnA8+)

316 278
...
Yeah, I know. Both, of course, because magic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

Unless you change the meanings of the word. It's universal because Big Brother Stalin says it is. Not get in line for your univeral bread access.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:08 PM (ynpvh)

317 314 The Dow is down almost 2k in the last 2 weeks. That's a roughly 5% correction. Bad news for Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM (CsUN+)
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Pfft. Not even close to "bear market" territory. Just a brief correction because of Israel and Russia, and the fundamentals are strong.
Posted by: FinanceTV at April 12, 2024 02:07 PM (HnUIn)

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"And when we talk about the stock market, we won't talk about this because it's too volatile to include in long-term trends."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:08 PM (GBKbO)

318 I don't know if it's been said, but I highly doubt this gets passed. I know it's San Francisco, but there are always a ton of crazy virtue-signaling proposals that don't make it through, and things are pretty bad there now. Remember the Asian community shook up the school board a couple of years back, and the terrorist spawn DA got recalled.

Then again, it's San Francisco.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at April 12, 2024 02:08 PM (lg881)

319 313 Better have some strong doors and a swat response team when the yutes crash it.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 02:07 PM (i8ZU2)

The membership fees are used to pay for the armed guards.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:08 PM (UnA8+)

320 Yup. In a finite universe (or one with a large enough size to make resources difficult to get to), there is a finite amount of usable energy. I mean, even if you could mine anti-matter in some parts of the local galaxy, it's still rare, and it takes energy to make, collect, and contain antimatter if you can't find it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM (ynpvh)
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Leave it to me.

**SNAP!***

Posted by: Thanos at April 12, 2024 02:09 PM (7fElN)

321 Shopping by appointment only
Posted by: Don Black at April 12, 2024 02:05 PM (oCjPU)

Shopping.

You petition to be allowed to have goods. We tell you whether you deserve them or not. Your social credit score will be very important to helping us make our decision.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:09 PM (dGCAG)

322 297
...

Everything you need to know about Marx is that he was a Satanist.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 12, 2024 02:04 PM (lJLR

Stalin was a Stalinist. Close enough to Satanist.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:09 PM (ynpvh)

323 As long as resources are finite, Men must compete, and kill in order to secure them.

Posted by: XTC

That's hot

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 12, 2024 02:09 PM (ftFVW)

324 What are the damages for me deciding not to sell something? And why isn't everyone in the world entitled to compensation?

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:09 PM (yGFFs)

325
The Dow is down almost 2k in the last 2 weeks. That's a roughly 5% correction. Bad news for Biden.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM

He'll go up in the polls. There are some things called 'counter-cyclical'. I was in such an industry for decades. When the economy went south I did a whole lot better.

We'll see. It's basically an idea I pulled out of my @ss.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 12, 2024 02:10 PM (RKVpM)

326 I'm a little hazy on the exact pull quote from the constitution where a private business owner has to get permission from the government to go out of business.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (lTGtQ)

It's in the good and plenty clause.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:10 PM (yGFFs)

327 I don't know if it's been said, but I highly doubt this gets passed. I know it's San Francisco, but there are always a ton of crazy virtue-signaling proposals that don't make it through, and things are pretty bad there now. Remember the Asian community shook up the school board a couple of years back, and the terrorist spawn DA got recalled.

Then again, it's San Francisco.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at April 12, 2024 02:08 PM (lg881)
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That they're even considering it - even if they just think it's because such a scheme is good PR - tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:10 PM (HnUIn)

328 "I needed a break. He went off to scribble. Who knew it would get out of hand?"
-Engels, massaging his backside
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

I wonder sometimes if Marx or Engels actually thought they would be taken seriously...they seem to effect postures more like dreaming 15 year olds than grizzled dudes with beards who were actual serious thinkers...amazing what years of poverty and servitude will make peasants believe in...

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (K+UlC)

329 There are some things called 'counter-cyclical'. I was in such an industry for decades.

When the economy went south I did a whole lot better.

Posted by: Divide by Zero

You were in ammo sales?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (i8ZU2)

330 The Weekend is here

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (fwDg9)

331 They'll prosecute you... ex post facto1
Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 01:56 PM (991eG)
____

I'm beginning to think great limericks start with the punchline and you work backwards from there. I'll have to study this.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (KSkEK)

332 so expect a TON of announced closures on june 30 for a july 1st enactment date.
Posted by: SturmToddler

Might be enough time to spin off the individual stores as independent corporations, apply all parent corp debts to it, sell everything on the shelves, and meet the closure date.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (3vcct)

333 Where's our compensation from Disney for them deciding to make shitty movies instead of good ones?

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (yGFFs)

334 Something tells me that was the idea. A socialist utopia, where people can get what they need, and nobody has to pay for anything.

It's the forced labor thing that creates a hiccup. Maybe that's what all the illegals are for, we're importing slaves again.

Posted by: BurtTC

There are two things endemic to every socialist system, because it is a net eroder of wealth, not a net creator: exploitation of natural resources, and slave labor.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (lTGtQ)

335 ____

I'm beginning to think great limericks start with the punchline and you work backwards from there. I'll have to study this.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (KSkEK)

Muldoon has stated such.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 12, 2024 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)

336 320 Yup. In a finite universe (or one with a large enough size to make resources difficult to get to), there is a finite amount of usable energy. I mean, even if you could mine anti-matter in some parts of the local galaxy, it's still rare, and it takes energy to make, collect, and contain antimatter if you can't find it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:06 PM (ynpvh)
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Leave it to me.

**SNAP!***

Posted by: Thanos at April 12, 2024 02:09 PM (7fElN)

That just halved the problem. Unless half the existing resources in the universe were just snapped away...then it made it worse.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:12 PM (ynpvh)

337 If my dealer stops giving me his good shit, can I sue?

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:12 PM (yGFFs)

338 326 I'm a little hazy on the exact pull quote from the constitution where a private business owner has to get permission from the government to go out of business.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (lTGtQ)

It's in the good and plenty clause.
Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:10 PM (yGFFs)
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Under "Social Compacts" section of the Utopian Collective Writ.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, Bird Law Expert at April 12, 2024 02:12 PM (snyZJ)

339 58 California is becoming the state where if you move there you can never leave without some sort of penalty.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 12, 2024 01:18 PM (NpAcC)

East Germany of the Pacific coast.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 12, 2024 02:12 PM (kzHlT)

340 Democrats are trying the same scheme with Food Giant in DC.

Posted by: 13times at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (b2R7d)

341 326 I'm a little hazy on the exact pull quote from the constitution where a private business owner has to get permission from the government to go out of business.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 12, 2024 01:26 PM (lTGtQ)

It's in the good and plenty clause.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:10 PM (yGFFs)

Yes, in subclause "BOHICA".

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (ynpvh)

342 Pfft. Not even close to "bear market" territory. Just a brief correction because of Israel and Russia, and the fundamentals are strong.
Posted by: FinanceTV at April 12, 2024 02:07 PM (HnUIn)

Remember when the stock market was a thing? Businesses traded on the basis of providing goods and services, and individual investors could make choices, based on their values, whether to support said businesses or not.

And the market would reflect those many many individual choices being made daily.

Now it's just a rolly coaster that takes things up, then takes them down, and stock prices are about as real as cash money.

Which is to say, they ain't.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (dGCAG)

343 Can I sue him under the Stems and Seeds Clause of the Constitution?

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (yGFFs)

344
Lol, keepin' after it! First home squatters, now this. I always said American leftists were even darker than the others. There's so much more nuance to this.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (0FoWg)

345 I wonder sometimes if Marx or Engels actually thought they would be taken seriously...they seem to effect postures more like dreaming 15 year olds than grizzled dudes with beards who were actual serious thinkers...amazing what years of poverty and servitude will make peasants believe in...
Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (K+UlC)

The grizzled dudes with beards back then were mostly posturing dandies.

Fifteen thousand words to say "yadda yadda give me your shit and then kill yourself".

Little more than a Current Year college student with a slightly better grasp of vocabulary and grammar.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (LsETW)

346 Nood congressmen

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (ftFVW)

347 329 There are some things called 'counter-cyclical'. I was in such an industry for decades.

When the economy went south I did a whole lot better.

Posted by: Divide by Zero

You were in ammo sales?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (i8ZU2)

Coulda been booze.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (ynpvh)

348 Nood FISA

Posted by: Max Power at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (q177U)

349 NYT, yesterday, E.P.A. Says ‘Forever Chemicals’ Must Be Removed From Tap Water
The rule applies to a family of chemicals known as PFAS that are linked to serious health effects. Water utilities argue the cost is too great.

CNN yesterday: Biden administration sets first national standard to limit ‘forever chemicals’ in drinking water.
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>>>This is BS, too. Shall lead to outrageous costs & >job losses.

How was the new standard promulgated when the EPA has maintained limits aren't known? It's control, ^ $, job losses.

From MY area: EPA Norwood, Pennsylvania: Site Documents and Data

WHYY: One in three tests show Pa. water contamination, state says it’s not ‘widespread’

Amid federal inaction, there's no consensus on how much of the PFAS class of chemicals is too much. By Brett Sholtis, Dec. 9, 2019

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you too at April 12, 2024 02:14 PM (NFX2v)

350 I suspect a bear market would reinforce the majority view about Bidenomics.

But these things are hard to predict! (Don't I just know it.)

Posted by: mnw at April 12, 2024 02:14 PM (NLIak)

351 344
Lol, keepin' after it! First home squatters, now this. I always said American leftists were even darker than the others. There's so much more nuance to this.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (0FoWg)

The only thing the Leftists love more than killing people is looting the corpses.

Posted by: XTC at April 12, 2024 02:14 PM (UnA8+)

352 337 If my dealer stops giving me his good shit, can I sue?

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:12 PM (yGFFs)

Yes you can. Just go down to the local police department. They have forms for you to fill out.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 12, 2024 02:14 PM (ynpvh)

353 Lol, keepin' after it! First home squatters, now this. I always said American leftists were even darker than the others. There's so much more nuance to this.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (0FoWg)

Oh yes. They want Cambodia here. That's where the leftists bashed babies into trees in front of their too highly educated parents before killing them all. Spark of divinity.

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:15 PM (yGFFs)

354 You were in ammo sales?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 12, 2024 02:11 PM (i8ZU2)

Second hand hookers.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 12, 2024 02:15 PM (dGCAG)

355 CNN yesterday: Biden administration sets first national standard to limit ‘forever chemicals’ in drinking water.
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Now go get your tenth vax. Get twelve, Biden throws in the thirteenth free!

Talk about "forever chemicals"...

Posted by: ... at April 12, 2024 02:16 PM (yGFFs)

356 That they're even considering it - even if they just think it's because such a scheme is good PR - tells you all you need to know.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:10 PM (HnUIn)

I hear ya, but just because someone thinks it's good PR doesn't actually mean it is. I mean in SF you'll always get some folks that agree with the ultra progressives, but are sometimes otherwise ignored (or actively pushed back against). I'll be interested to see how much actual, real support it gets. I could be wrong.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at April 12, 2024 02:18 PM (lg881)

357 California is becoming the state where if you move there you can never leave without some sort of penalty.

You can check out any time you like?

More seriously, I have a good friend whose wife is a pharmacist originally licensed in CA. For at least the first ten years after they left CA, CA tried to tax her income. Every year, they had to pay their CPA to politely tell the CA Franchise Board to go f*ck themselves.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (/y8xj)

358 There are two things endemic to every socialist system, because it is a net eroder of wealth, not a net creator: exploitation of natural resources, and slave labor.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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And racism.

Limited resources must be kept for one's own tribe.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 12, 2024 02:20 PM (3vcct)

359 I'm beginning to think great limericks start with the punchline and you work backwards from there. I'll have to study this.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

*********

I can't speak for great limericks, but I know that's the way I do mine...

Posted by: Muldoon at April 12, 2024 02:22 PM (991eG)

360 I wish every day that old Coot would drop over dead to go see his Maker

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 02:23 PM (fwDg9)

361 Little more than a Current Year college student with a slightly better grasp of vocabulary and grammar.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 12, 2024 02:13 PM (LsETW)

This corresponds to my thinking! Marxism at the time it was suggested was actually current college student activism without the "to the ramparts for buffoonish reasons that don't exist!" idiotic enthusiasm that was needed to make it relevant.

Posted by: Boswell at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (K+UlC)

362
Can't one of you morons help King Harv and his visual marketing problems?

Posted by: Auspex at April 12, 2024 02:24 PM (j4U/Z)

363 Muldoon yours are great lyrics

Posted by: Skip at April 12, 2024 02:32 PM (fwDg9)

364 If the grocery stores there decide to stay, then they are fools who will pay the foolish price.

Posted by: Cheri at April 12, 2024 02:39 PM (oiNtH)

365 i suspect that IF thi s passes every store, or most of them at least, will close before the day this bill becomes actual law. so expect a TON of announced closures on june 30 for a july 1st enactment date.
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 12, 2024 01:16 PM (bving)

Someone should start a business being a really bad grocery store. I'm sure the outgoing store would slide money under the table for someone to get them off the hook. You can then start lobbying the state for subsidys.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 12, 2024 02:44 PM (eoQWY)

366 278 So which "universal" is the vision here?

Yeah, I know. Both, of course, because magic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (HnUIn)

=======

They did it in Star Trek!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 12, 2024 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

Old Star Trek was not post scarcity, tho the ship might have been. The tribble tramp captain was setting random stuff for drinks. They went on missions to deliver medicines and other items to colonies that didn't have them.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 12, 2024 02:52 PM (eoQWY)

367 Didn't the Democrats have a program for this, back in the 1860's ...?

Posted by: Richard Sean McEnroe at April 12, 2024 03:00 PM (/kxNi)

368 20
Okay, we'll stay open; but, we will not have any goods for sale.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Bag of rice. Can of beans.

My thoughts exactly, and one person let on at a time, suoervised

Posted by: Gonzotx at April 12, 2024 03:03 PM (MwHgU)

369 Telling stores that they can basically never decide to close if they open is a way to ensure that stores NEVER open in your city

Posted by: Hoss at April 12, 2024 03:47 PM (awoCt)

370 You Loot I Shoot should be a Law allowing Home and store owners to use deadly force if need be to stop Looters

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 12, 2024 06:04 PM (wGqjj)

371 Only a truly incompetent business would even think about opening a new store there. Even if this doesn’t go through, these politicians will ensure that no new businesses will go there.

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Grocery Stores in San Francisco Are Closing Due to City-Sanctioned Constant Looting.But Don't Worry, San Francisco Politicians Have a Solution.

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Grocery Stores in San Francisco Are Closing Due to City-Sanctioned Constant Looting.
But Don't Worry, San Francisco Politicians Have a Solution.