THE MORNING RANT: Update on the Climate Cult and its Green Energy Follies

THE MORNING RANT: Update on the Climate Cult and its Green Energy Follies – 4/01/2024

If only this green energy nonsense was just a big April Fool’s prank…but it’s not, so let’s check in on what is going on in the world of unreliable solar and wind energy. [With a tip of the hat to Terry, Alan, Brendan, and others who kindly send me links to stories I might otherwise miss.]

The worst aspect of “clean energy” isn’t that it’s not clean, green, or affordable. The greatest problem is that it cannot produce the amount electricity needed, and that it often provides none. The baseline amount of energy that solar and wind can reliably produce is zero kw. Meanwhile, the climate cultists have embraced destroying the planet in order to save the planet.

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I’ve heard that the Canadian prairie provinces get a little chilly in the short, dark days of winter. Any reliance on wind and solar seems preposterous, and potentially deadly:

“Zero. Zip. Nada: Wind power in Saskatchewan for over an hour on Friday, March 22 flatlines, again” [Pipeline Online – 3/24/2024]

On March 22, Saskatchewan’s fleet of grid-scale wind power generation produced next to nothing for half the day, and zero power at all for just over an hour.

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Speaking of wind power on the western prairies, the header picture up above is from this renewable event that happened recently on the Colorado/Nebraska border.

“Turbine at Colorado wind farm collapses, burns” [CBS – 01/15/2024]

A wind turbine at a northern Colorado wind farm folded in half and caught fire Thursday morning, startling neighbors who heard banging noises prior to the collapse.

Caught fire?

The incident was reported at 8 a.m. No injuries were reported. Oil and grease from the generator caught fire after the tower's collapse.

I have been reliably informed by Democrats, the WEF, and all the other evangelists of The Sustainable Organic Church of the Carbon Apocalypse that wind turbines are a necessary part of a net zero world without petroleum. Yet these giant bird cuisinarts require petroleum products, and lots of it. You know, there just might be a possibility that the hustlers getting rich from the wind energy scam haven’t been completely honest with us.

That said, a turbine collapsing like this must be an extremely rare event, right? Uh, no.

A tower in Fleming, about a dozen miles southwest of Peetz, collapsed in 2022.

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A favorite old fishing pier of mine on the Texas coast used to provide little red wagons onto which visitors could load their coolers and fishing gear. Because of the salt air, those wagons rapidly corroded and rusted, and the moving parts didn’t move very well unless the wagons were new.

It is comical to think that we are now putting wind turbines, with all their complicated electrical parts and moving pieces, directly into the ocean where they get washed in salt water spray…

…if the rough seas even allow installation in the first place.

“World’s largest offshore wind farm delayed by bad weather” {Independent – 02/08/2024]

The plant is expected to be powering around six million homes per year by 2026 - but has been hit by bad weather.

Bad weather in the North Sea? What an unexpected event. It must be climate change.

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A massive solar farm outside of Houston was destroyed by hail. Not only was that valuable farm and ranch land already diverted from productive agricultural use, but it is now at risk of being poisoned by the chemicals in the solar panels that were destroyed.

“Hail Storm Destroys Thousands of Solar Panels In Texas” [Daily Caller – 2/26/2024]

The solar panels could be made of a chemical compound called cadmium telluride, a toxic substance that if in contact with a human could cause kidney, lung, gastrointestinal, heart and skin problems, according to the National Institute of Health (NIH)’s National Library of Medicine. The substance is listed as an “Irritant” and an “Environmental Hazard” by the NIH.

It must have been a rare “500-year” hailstorm produced by climate change. Or maybe, having glass panels facing the sky in the hail-belt is a really bad idea.

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Perhaps the most shocking aspect of the Net Zero / Clean Energy movement is the passion that these “green” zealots now have for despoiling nature, and their religious embrace of sacrificing majestic creatures such as eagles and whales in service to their angry climate God. We all chuckle at the joke that “You are the carbon they wish to eliminate,” but with the climate movement now embracing whale and eagle killing, it is not a stretch to consider just where their zeal for carbon-elimination will lead.

Those of us on the right who understand that Earth and its creatures were provided by God for us to use and to be responsible stewards, are now having to protect the environment from “environmentalists.”

This is heartening news coming out of another Canadian prairie province:

“Alberta to ban renewables on ‘prime’ land and preserve ‘pristine viewscapes’” [Guardian – 02/28/2024]

Alberta will block renewable energy projects on “prime” agricultural land and limit the placement of wind turbines to preserve “pristine viewscapes”, a decision that increasingly pits the western Canadian province against environmental groups pushing green energy – and the companies investing in it.

Ponder the magnitude of that sentence. The “environmental groups pushing green energy” want millions of pounds of concrete poured into prime prairie lands, they want windmills despoiling the vistas, and they wants tens of thousands of migratory birds killed, all to produce zero kw of reliable electricity.

If killing whales in service to energy production is a good thing, maybe we should bring back the whaling boats to Nantucket. Or even better, let’s just stop killing whales – again - and use petroleum products instead.

“Right-wing groups sue US over offshore wind impact on whales” [Reuters – 3/18/2024]

Three right-wing groups sued the Biden administration on Monday over its approval of a wind project off the coast of Virginia, alleging it failed to consider the facility's impacts on endangered whales.
The federal lawsuit filed by the Heartland Institute, Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT) and National Legal and Policy Center seeks to stop the construction of Dominion Energy Inc' Coastal Virginia Offshore Wind project pending a new federal analysis of risks to the North Atlantic right whale by the National Marine Fisheries Service.

Protecting forests and planting trees to save the planet is your grandmother’s old-fashioned 20th Century environmentalism. 21st Century environmentalists understand that to save the planet you must destroy the planet first, ideally by razing forests and replacing them with steel and concrete wind farms.

“Fury in Germany as 120k trees in fairytale forest felled to make way for wind farm” [Express – 3/08/2024]

Conservationists in Germany are incensed as 120,000 trees in an ancient forest have started to be felled in order to make way for a wind farm.
The forest in Sababurg, Reinhardswald, which is in the central German state of Hesse, is said to be an inspiration for the Brothers Grimm mythical tales, but now it’s being destroyed to facilitate the country’s latest green energy project.

The environmental movement as hijacked by the climate cult is reaching its “Jim Jones in Guyana” phase. We on the right must protect the planet – and life on it - from the death and destruction that these cultists are trying to impose.

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A Confluence of Cultural & Business Pathologies at Hertz

My latest piece has been published at The Pipeline: Hertz: No Longer No. 1, For a Good Reason

In it I take a look at the disastrous tenure of Hertz CEO Stephen Scherr, who just announced his resignation after two destructive years at the helm. With multiple Ivy League degrees, decades of experience at Goldman Sachs, and a globalist commitment to EVs, he wrought enormous destruction on Hertz, along with a bloodbath of red ink, while receiving a 9-figure compensation package. Above all else, and despite (or because of) his elite resume, he was oblivious to the actual consumer transaction that happens on the front lines at Hertz, and why EVs were not a fit.

My latest at The Pipeline: “Time to Put Team EV on Defense” argues that despite the initial failure of “the EV transition,” the left still wants to ban our gas cars. Thus we must now retaliate & make the fight about them saving their precious EVs.https://t.co/wVry9HXJ6L
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) March 14, 2024

I’d be honored if you’d give it a read.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at April 01, 2024 11:00 AM (fACYj)

2 Howdy Buck!

Posted by: Doof at April 01, 2024 11:01 AM (JunzL)

3 NOOD duties performed

Posted by: Doof at April 01, 2024 11:02 AM (JunzL)

4 Happy Real Transgender Day of Visibility!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 01, 2024 11:02 AM (YAtuc)

5 On March 22, Saskatchewan’s fleet of grid-scale wind power generation produced next to nothing for half the day, and zero power at all for just over an hour.

In the Pacific Northwest, the wind isn't blowing under two conditions:

1) It's really, really, hot.

2) It's really, really, cold.

Guess when the electrical system needs electricity the most.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 01, 2024 11:04 AM (YAtuc)

6 Bad weather in the North Sea? What an unexpected event. It must be climate change.

I wonder how much it costs to charter the Dali for a delivery thru the North Sea?

Posted by: t-bird at April 01, 2024 11:04 AM (wKqZM)

7 In it I take a look at the disastrous tenure of Hertz CEO Stephen Scherr, who just announced his resignation after two destructive years at the helm. With multiple Ivy League degrees, decades of experience at Goldman Sachs, and a globalist commitment to EVs, he wrought enormous destruction on Hertz, along with a bloodbath of red ink, while receiving a 9-figure compensation package. Above all else, and despite (or because of) his elite resume, he was oblivious to the actual consumer transaction that happens on the front lines at Hertz, and why EVs were not a fit.

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How could credentialism gone wrong?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)

8 We had a hell of a hailstorm at the end of February.

It punched holes in the liner of our pool. Not to mention trashing our roof and siding.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 01, 2024 11:04 AM (Q4IgG)

9 Happy Real Transgender Day of Visibility!

In many ways isn't this also the story of Big Mike?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 01, 2024 11:05 AM (GsDOX)

10 A massive solar farm outside of Houston was destroyed by hail. Not only was that valuable farm and ranch land already diverted from productive agricultural use, but it is now at risk of being poisoned by the chemicals in the solar panels that were destroyed

Excellent! You eat the bugs and have electricity if and when we decide, you peasant!

Posted by: Klaus Schwab at April 01, 2024 11:05 AM (yOPBE)

11 They are building another solar farm close by me. It's on US 82 heading to Paris Texas. They have all of the supports in place and are waiting to install the panels. 400-500 acres right next to the highway.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 01, 2024 11:06 AM (QNSds)

12 I’m trying to figure out what is wrong with using off the shelf technology from 1942?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 01, 2024 11:06 AM (8sMut)

13 We have a source of energy that is 100% clean, renewable and cheap.That’s hydro power. And yet the left is on a Crusade to blow up every dam in the Pacific Northwest.

Posted by: Montec at April 01, 2024 11:06 AM (hxe/1)

14 That project near Houston is astounding. 3300 acres of solar panels not far from the largest petroleum refining area in the world. Not only did they ruin those 3300 acres, and never produce a watt of power, but the panels will have to be buried somewhere where they won't leach into the soil. They are not recyclable.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:06 AM (5P4Tr)

15 Green energy is for earthbound midgets.

You ain't flying to the stars on the wings of solar panels.

And you can't get to moon in electric cars.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2024 11:06 AM (yikga)

16 My brother has sold and installed solar water heaters and pool heaters for years. He loves hailstorms.

Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2024 11:07 AM (VGOMa)

17 shelf technology from 1942?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Ask Ace about that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:07 AM (9yWhg)

18 There’s a big ol’ solar plant being built in SE Swisher County, TX.

The land would be put to better use by farming or ranching.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 01, 2024 11:07 AM (8sMut)

19 We have enough natural gas in the USA to supply all our energy needs for the next 100 years.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 01, 2024 11:07 AM (++4z6)

20 "Unplanned main shaft bearing replacement can cost wind-farm operators up to $450,000 to replace and have an obvious impact on financial performance."

Ya think?...that's 10yo data, btw.

Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2024 11:07 AM (AwYPR)

21 I always liked how someone put it on a radio show years ago about North Dakota (which can stand in for Canada here: "There's only a few bits of chain link fence and a sheep or two between you and the North Pole."

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:07 AM (daqPs)

22 “Zero. Zip. Nada: Wind power in Saskatchewan for over an hour on Friday, March 22 flatlines, again”

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"By 2030, your economies and soon thereafter your citizens will flatline, comrades -- and you'll be happy."

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 01, 2024 11:08 AM (wPD6K)

23 Nukes, or shut the hell up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:08 AM (daqPs)

24 16 My brother has sold and installed solar water heaters and pool heaters for years. He loves hailstorms.
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Bet he does. The old roof water heaters always made me wonder how ones changes the shingles after a few years.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 01, 2024 11:08 AM (n17eQ)

25 It's a scam. A fraud. A complete lie.
All of it.
Corrupt to the hilt.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2024 11:08 AM (W/lyH)

26 I always liked how someone put it on a radio show years ago about North Dakota (which can stand in for Canada here: "There's only a few bits of chain link fence and a sheep or two between you and the North Pole."
Posted by: Aetius451AD

"You outta go ta
North Dakota.
See the cattle and the wheat,
And the folks that can't be beat!"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:09 AM (9yWhg)

27 "Bad weather in the North Sea? What an unexpected event. It must be climate change."

It was always sunny and balmy before the Industrial Revolution. The English invented sailing vessels to relax and enjoy in the mild breeze and surf.

Posted by: Ripley at April 01, 2024 11:09 AM (PTDkx)

28 Ice ages cone and ice ages go, but they will come again

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2024 11:09 AM (8rA0k)

29 Conservationists in Germany are incensed as 120,000 trees in an ancient forest have started to be felled in order to make way for a wind farm.

But they are fine with "biomass", which is cutting down trees and burning them as fuel - the future is medival technology.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (5P4Tr)

30 CBD get on a jury??

Posted by: The Man from Athens at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (xIkSP)

31 Hey, Hertz? You listening?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)

32 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

33 In the Pacific Northwest, the wind isn't blowing under two conditions:

1) It's really, really, hot.

2) It's really, really, cold.

Guess when the electrical system needs electricity the most.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 01, 2024 11:04 AM (YAtuc)

In TX, peak demand is in the summer, and when high pressure builds in, the wind don’t blow.

High pressure means sunny weather. When lots of people run A/Cs.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (8sMut)

34 >>There’s a big ol’ solar plant being built in SE Swisher County, TX.

The land would be put to better use by farming or ranching.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 01, 2024 11:07 AM

There are hardly ever any big old thunderstorms down by Tulia, except for every spring.

Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (VGOMa)

35 I've said for a while now that the ultimate goal for the Left is ZERO humans on the planet.

The complete and utter extermination of the human race.

Their goal is to be the last generation that then turns out the lights on what used to be humanity.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (7fElN)

36 25 It's a scam. A fraud. A complete lie.
All of it.
Corrupt to the hilt.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2024 11:08 AM (W/lyH)

A masquerade.
A sham.
A pile of bullshit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (daqPs)

37 29 But they are fine with "biomass", which is cutting down trees and burning them as fuel - the future is medival technology.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (5P4Tr)

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We can put a guild of torturers into a disused rocket in time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (GBKbO)

38 Wind turbines must be locked down if the wind is anticipated to exceed 25 mph sustained as they will burn themselves up due to over rotation.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

39 New York Times prints US deep state/Soros funded disinformation group story:

China’s Advancing Efforts to Influence the U.S. Election Raise Alarms
China has adopted some of the same misinformation tactics that Russia used ahead of the 2016 election, researchers and government officials say.

https://tinyurl.com/ym5uady6

The source for the article is the Institute for Strategic Dialogue - a Deep State tool also funded by the Open Society Foundation = Soros, per wikipedia page.

The deep state planted a fake story about election interference in the New York Times sourced by “[government and Soros funded] researchers and government officials” preparing the justification for government suppression of free speech leading up to a presidential election.

In other news, it’s wet in Cleveland.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 01, 2024 11:11 AM (7fVdQ)

40 We have enough natural gas in the USA to supply all our energy needs for the next 100 years.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

More like a thousand.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:11 AM (5P4Tr)

41 "You outta go ta
North Dakota.
See the cattle and the wheat,
And the folks that can't be beat!"
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:09 AM (9yWhg)

And there’s a pretty girl behind every single tree at Minot.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 01, 2024 11:11 AM (8sMut)

42 But they are fine with "biomass", which is cutting down trees and burning them as fuel - the future is medival technology.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (5P4Tr)
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"What did we use for light before candles?"

"Electricity."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 01, 2024 11:11 AM (7fElN)

43 28 Ice ages cone and ice ages go, but they will come again

mint chocolate chip?

Posted by: anachronda at April 01, 2024 11:12 AM (v3pYe)

44 I dunno, grandpa was always on the roof in El paso fixing the swamp cooler. I could never call that 'AC.' Better than nothing, yes, but not exactly 'cool.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:12 AM (daqPs)

45 So we have to destroy the Earth to save it ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 01, 2024 11:12 AM (Akjoo)

46 Three right-wing groups sued the Biden administration on Monday over its approval of a wind project off the coast of Virginia, alleging it failed to consider the facility's impacts on endangered whales.

Right wing. Of course. How often are the people pushing the green energy fantasy described as left wing?

Why don't the media just call them wreckers, parasites, and rootless cosmopolitans and have done with it. The old ways are the best ways.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:13 AM (CsUN+)

47 In TX, peak demand is in the summer, and when high pressure builds in, the wind don’t blow.

High pressure means sunny weather. When lots of people run A/Cs.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (8sMut)

Texas power plant operators (coal, gas) like the "renewable" grid for one reason: During off-peak season, they can shut down portions of the plant for repairs for longer periods as the 'renewable' grid is good for short term partial grid coverage.

Other than that, it's unsustainable dogshit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

48 Nukes. We need nukes. Good enough for the Navy good enough for us civilians. A plant from a Virginia class fast attack could power a small town for 50+ years as they are designed now to last the life of the boat.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at April 01, 2024 11:13 AM (xIkSP)

49 But they are fine with "biomass", which is cutting down trees and burning them as fuel - the future is medival technology.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:10 AM (5P4Tr)

I remember the wood stove boom of the '70s.

Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2024 11:13 AM (AwYPR)

50 It's a scam. A fraud. A complete lie.
All of it.
Corrupt to the hilt.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2024 11:08 AM (W/lyH)

A masquerade.
A sham.
A pile of bullshit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Hokum.
Stuff and nonsense.
Flim-flammery.
Snake-oil sale.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:13 AM (9yWhg)

51
I hate the idea of offshore wind farms. Any permanent structure installed anywhere near shipping is ludicrous. Our 'betters' have never been out on the ocean when fog sets in and visibility goes to absolute shit. Having something out there to perhaps run into is insane.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (RKVpM)

52
The solar panels could be made of a chemical compound called cadmium telluride

Could be? Were they or weren't they?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (63Dwl)

53 But they are fine with "biomass", which is cutting down trees and burning them as fuel - the future is medival technology.

Second look at cattle dung?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (CsUN+)

54 The left will always try to destroy the current thing.

Once upon a time grocery stores used paper bags. Then the left decided that was bad. And so we all started using plastics bags instead. Until one day the left decided plastic bags are bad and demanded we go back to paper bags.

They don’t care what the thing is. As along as it’s something modern and popular they will destroy it.

Posted by: Montec at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (hxe/1)

55 The ONLY good idea McCains advisors had during 2008 was the bit about '100 new nuclear plants to be built.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (daqPs)

56 The land under solar farms is contaminated, sterile and void of any life.

You'd think the enviro-nazis would be... "concerned."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 01, 2024 11:15 AM (Q4IgG)

57 I hate the idea of offshore wind farms. Any permanent structure installed anywhere near shipping is ludicrous. Our 'betters' have never been out on the ocean when fog sets in and visibility goes to absolute shit. Having something out there to perhaps run into is insane.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (RKVpM)

Not mentioning the underwater hum created that causes whale's brains to explode.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

58 I dunno, grandpa was always on the roof in El paso fixing the swamp cooler. I could never call that 'AC.' Better than nothing, yes, but not exactly 'cool.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024

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In El Paso? It's dry there (I suppose; I've been to Carlsbad, NM, not that far away) -- but the temps are too high for a swamp cooler to work well. It'll get the interior of your house about 20 degrees below the outside. But if the outside is at 105 . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 01, 2024 11:15 AM (J2vNu)

59 Hail storms threatening massive solar farms? I got two words for you... Space. Mirror.

Permanent sunlight that also vaporizes clouds bringing inclement weather.

Posted by: Bill Gates, Megalomaniac at April 01, 2024 11:15 AM (snyZJ)

60 “Green energy” is about obtaining political power by making access to electric power unreliable, expensive, and, by mandating “smart” meters, subject to the whims of those who have the levers of administrative authority at their fingertips.

Posted by: Peter B at April 01, 2024 11:15 AM (v/5Y9)

61 I hate the idea of offshore wind farms. Any permanent structure installed anywhere near shipping is ludicrous. Our 'betters' have never been out on the ocean when fog sets in and visibility goes to absolute shit. Having something out there to perhaps run into is insane.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (RKVpM)
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I'm sure they put electric-powered lights on them...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 01, 2024 11:15 AM (7fElN)

62 That truly would be a boon to the economy with a lot of both high and low paying jobs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:16 AM (daqPs)

63 And the blades of the wind turbines are not recyclable.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

64 Nukes. We need nukes. Good enough for the Navy good enough for us civilians. A plant from a Virginia class fast attack could power a small town for 50+ years as they are designed now to last the life of the boat.

I read a recent article about the power demands from chip fabs and data centers. In a word, the demand is enormous. It's to the point now that Bezos and Gates are looking at bespoke reactors for individual facilities, saving on transmission losses and other problems.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (CsUN+)

65 Second look at cattle dung?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (CsUN+)

What cattle?....bug shit.

Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (AwYPR)

66 The solar panels could be made of a chemical compound called cadmium telluride

Could be? Were they or weren't they?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Assuming they came from China, the material could be just about anything. They have put their industrial waste into gypsum board and dog food.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (5P4Tr)

67 Once upon a time grocery stores used paper bags. Then the left decided that was bad. And so we all started using plastics bags instead. Until one day the left decided plastic bags are bad and demanded we go back to paper bags. . . .

Posted by: Montec at April 01, 2024

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The latest thing at Whole Paycheck is their notice asking you to use a basket or a cart while shopping instead of your reusable bag. The same bag they give you credit (actual pennies off) for using when you check out. I guess they found people were popping stuff into their bags and walking out.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (J2vNu)

68 The left is evil and the hysterical climate true believers are mentally ill. But in my opinion, what is really driving "green energy" development is nothing more than pure, naked greed. A lot of people are getting filthy stinking rich off these scams. It's basically the government throwing trillions of dollars at shady, politically connected people without expecting any actual results. It's the perfect "heads I win, tails you lose" scenario for all those gorging at the trough. Of course you're going to see tons of (worthless) development and trillions in wasted money.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

69
Conservationists in Germany are incensed as 120,000 trees in an ancient forest have started to be felled in order to make way for a wind farm.

Are they "right wing" groups?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (63Dwl)

70 64 I read a recent article about the power demands from chip fabs and data centers. In a word, the demand is enormous. It's to the point now that Bezos and Gates are looking at bespoke reactors for individual facilities, saving on transmission losses and other problems.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (CsUN+)

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Nukes for the elites. Broken solar farms for the peasants.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (GBKbO)

71 Let us make a deal here in the Pacific Northwest.
Destroy a damn, build a nuke power plant.
We get 85% of our power from hydroelectric plants up here so either build a few more to make it 100% or make it 0% with nukes an no damns. Environmental crackheads will go ballistic!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (xIkSP)

72 Wind towers collapsing and burning on the Colorado/Nebraska border sounds like a grand recipe for a prairie fire. We've forgotten how terrifying those were to that area only 50 years ago.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (XjtdB)

73 That Pipeline article misses the point. It was never about going all electric. It was about destroying the freedom general ownership of effective transportation brings.

No wonder we keep losing. We insist on fighting the wrong fight.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at April 01, 2024 11:18 AM (OUMaO)

74 We have a source of energy that is 100% clean, renewable and cheap.That’s hydro power. And yet the left is on a Crusade to blow up every dam in the Pacific Northwest.
Posted by: Montec"

If there is anything that show the lefts malevolence and their disregard for solving the energy "problem" it is their opposition to hydro-power. Zero pollution and in most cases actually increase wildlife habitat, not to mention the many benefits to agriculture, drinking water and recreation. We would should be building them at very suitable location.

Posted by: Ripley at April 01, 2024 11:18 AM (PTDkx)

75 Conservationists in Germany are incensed as 120,000 trees in an ancient forest have started to be felled in order to make way for a wind farm.

This is the left wing eco-nuts literally smacking you in the face with their cock and laughing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)

76 The solar panels could be made of a chemical compound called cadmium telluride

Could be? Were they or weren't they?

There are solar panels made from other materials, e.g, silicon, and Copper Indium Gallium Diselenide (CIGS). If they don't know the specific type of solar cell involved, "could be" is appropriate.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:18 AM (CsUN+)

77 I read a recent article about the power demands from chip fabs and data centers. In a word, the demand is enormous. It's to the point now that Bezos and Gates are looking at bespoke reactors for individual facilities, saving on transmission losses and other problems.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (CsUN+)
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Dedicated AI facilities (basically a superdata center) are also highly energy intensive, requiring oceans of water to keep them cool...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 01, 2024 11:19 AM (7fElN)

78 74 If there is anything that show the lefts malevolence and their disregard for solving the energy "problem" it is their opposition to hydro-power. Zero pollution and in most cases actually increase wildlife habitat, not to mention the many benefits to agriculture, drinking water and recreation. We would should be building them at very suitable location.
Posted by: Ripley at April 01, 2024 11:18 AM (PTDkx)

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I bet they'd be all for building one in the middle of a desert.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:19 AM (GBKbO)

79 And yet the left is on a Crusade to blow up every dam in the Pacific Northwest.

A fake research group, funded by Patagonia, just put out a "study" claiming that the Lower Snake River Dams, which the enviros want to remove, aren't clean at all, but actually have lots and lots of carbon emissions.

Oh wait, they put out a press release announcing the "study" - they won't let you look at the "study" itself.

This "study" is allegedly a lifecycle analysis - one problem with that is that lots and lots of carbon was emitted building the dams with mixing concrete and whatnot. You don't get that carbon back if you tear the dams out.

The second problem, which the enviros have argued before, is that dams on the Mekong River and other tropical places emit methane, because there is lots of tropical organic material in the reservoirs of the dams that interact with warm water.

The LRSDs are located in a treeless area, and the Snake River is cold water - there is no organic matter in the reservoirs.

No matter - if Patagonia wants the dams removed, they should be removed.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 01, 2024 11:19 AM (YAtuc)

80 Thx Buck. A hail storm took out a solar farm last year in either Nebraska or Kansas. "Environmentalists" apparently have never heard of harsh weather in tornado alley

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 01, 2024 11:19 AM (Fol4f)

81 The left is evil and the hysterical climate true believers are mentally ill. But in my opinion, what is really driving "green energy" development is nothing more than pure, naked greed. A lot of people are getting filthy stinking rich off these scams. It's basically the government throwing trillions of dollars at shady, politically connected people without expecting any actual results. It's the perfect "heads I win, tails you lose" scenario for all those gorging at the trough. Of course you're going to see tons of (worthless) development and trillions in wasted money.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

I have no idea what you're talking about, homophobe.

Posted by: Al Gore at April 01, 2024 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)

82 Technology is a fickle bitch.

Posted by: Eromero at April 01, 2024 11:19 AM (NxC5+)

83 68 The left is evil and the hysterical climate true believers are mentally ill. But in my opinion, what is really driving "green energy" development is nothing more than pure, naked greed. A lot of people are getting filthy stinking rich off these scams. It's basically the government throwing trillions of dollars at shady, politically connected people without expecting any actual results. It's the perfect "heads I win, tails you lose" scenario for all those gorging at the trough. Of course you're going to see tons of (worthless) development and trillions in wasted money.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

It's kind of funny to think that any movie where a greedy capitalist is raping the earth for their needs can now have "environmentalists" as the villains.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 01, 2024 11:19 AM (KbCG3)

84 The paradox of so-called, "renewable energy" is that as your reliance on it grows, so too must your "non-renewable" sources, ie your reliable and dependable sources of energy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 01, 2024 11:20 AM (JIdXK)

85 Conservationists in Germany are incensed as 120,000 trees in an ancient forest have started to be felled in order to make way for a wind farm.

So, I guess the whole "save the old-growth forests" thing is right out, huh?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:20 AM (9yWhg)

86
I hate the idea of offshore wind farms. Any permanent structure installed anywhere near shipping is ludicrous.

Build some off the coast of Baltimore.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 01, 2024 11:20 AM (63Dwl)

87 It’s a year zero mentality. Whatever source of energy we have now is bad and racist and transphobic and whatever. So it has to be destroyed and replaced with their thing. Doesn’t matter if the existing thing works great and their new thing is shit. It’s all ideological.

Posted by: Montec at April 01, 2024 11:20 AM (hxe/1)

88 Tried watching the movie 'Noah.' It was weird. Gave up and went to sleep.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 01, 2024 11:20 AM (n17eQ)

89 Pretty sure we drove by that solar installation last summer, sure hope it was that one and there aren't *two* in the area. I thought then that it looked awfully vulnerable to hail, although I tend to over-expect hail since I grew up in Colorado.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 01, 2024 11:21 AM (XjtdB)

90 The land under solar farms is contaminated, sterile and void of any life.

You'd think the enviro-nazis would be... "concerned."
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Michael Shellenberger was a director at the Sierra Club or similar. He went to a solar farm construction site, and was appalled at how they killed every animal and plant and sterilized the soil. He is now part of the fight to stop these monstrosities.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:21 AM (5P4Tr)

91 I hate the idea of offshore wind farms. Any permanent structure installed anywhere near shipping is ludicrous. Our 'betters' have never been out on the ocean when fog sets in and visibility goes to absolute shit. Having something out there to perhaps run into is insane.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (RKVpM)
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I'm sure they put electric-powered lights on them...

Yeah...about that....

Posted by: The Francis Scott Key Bridge at April 01, 2024 11:21 AM (CsUN+)

92 Switchgrass is the future!

Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2024 11:21 AM (AwYPR)

93 At least if they plow through an ocean wind farm, some poor dastardly on his way home from work at 2am does not drive into the river.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:22 AM (daqPs)

94
Michael Shellenberger was a director at the Sierra Club or similar. He went to a solar farm construction site, and was appalled at how they killed every animal and plant and sterilized the soil. He is now part of the fight to stop these monstrosities.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:21 AM (5P4Tr)

Didn't climate crazies vandalize the EV at the recent car expo? It seems real data on damage to the environment might finally be leaking to them...

Posted by: Nova Local at April 01, 2024 11:22 AM (exHjb)

95 If climate change is supposedly causing an increase of extreme weather events, why are they so insistent on building sources of energy that are highly vulnerable to extreme weather events?

What if building too many wind/solar farms is the REAL cause of extreme weather?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 01, 2024 11:22 AM (7fElN)

96 some poor dastardly on his way home from work at 2am does not drive into the river.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:22 AM (daqPs)

Word.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy at April 01, 2024 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

97 95 If climate change is supposedly causing an increase of extreme weather events, why are they so insistent on building sources of energy that are highly vulnerable to extreme weather events?

What if building too many wind/solar farms is the REAL cause of extreme weather?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 01, 2024 11:22 AM (7fElN)

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What if their objective is to wake the Old Ones?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

98 If there is anything that show the lefts malevolence and their disregard for solving the energy "problem" it is their opposition to hydro-power. Zero pollution and in most cases actually increase wildlife habitat, not to mention the many benefits to agriculture, drinking water and recreation. We would should be building them at very suitable location.
Posted by: Ripley at April 01, 2024 11:18 AM (PTDkx)

I didn’t know the environmental whackos (thanks Rush) were against hydropower. Why? What is their purported reasoning?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 01, 2024 11:23 AM (xT8gx)

99
Not mentioning the underwater hum created that causes whale's brains to explode.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:15 AM

I know. Now there's some new rule about to go into effect - to save the whales - where ships and boats will be prohibited from traveling more then about eight knots (about 10 mph). That's gonna be a killer of fisherman in more ways then one. Bad weather coming and you have to dash for shore? You're gonna have to pay a fine. I've been out on the water when a storm came up and lightning was hitting pilings in the bay a quarter mile away. Outrun a water spot at 10 mph? Forget it.

So tired of the left fvcking around with stuff they should leave the hell alone.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:23 AM (RKVpM)

100 CBD get on a jury??
Posted by: The Man from Athens

I thought he was already a member of Jewry.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:23 AM (9yWhg)

101 Tried watching the movie 'Noah.' It was weird. Gave up and went to sleep.

Posted by: Pudinhead

I guess you missed the 10-minute part where Jennifer Connelly gets totally nekkid. Pity

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:24 AM (CsUN+)

102 I am sure Cthullu will listen to Becky with her social justice in energy degree.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:24 AM (daqPs)

103 I guess you missed the 10-minute part where Jennifer Connelly gets totally nekkid. Pity
Posted by: Archimedes

What?????

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:24 AM (9yWhg)

104 I hate the idea of offshore wind farms. Any permanent structure installed anywhere near shipping is ludicrous.

What's the worst that could happen?

Posted by: Nordstream II at April 01, 2024 11:24 AM (KfN19)

105 What if their objective is to wake the Old Ones?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)
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**WE ARE AWAKE....**

**...AND YOU WILL WORSHIP US!**

Posted by: The Old Ones at April 01, 2024 11:25 AM (7fElN)

106 102 I am sure Cthullu will listen to Becky with her social justice in energy degree.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:24 AM (daqPs)

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Plot twist:

Becky is Cthulhu!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO)

107 Didn't climate crazies vandalize the EV at the recent car expo? It seems real data on damage to the environment might finally be leaking to them...
Posted by: Nova Local at April 01, 2024 11:22 AM (exHjb)

The hot new enviro-wacko craze is being mad at EVs because they’re still cars. And cars are evil because they keep people off buses and allows people to live in the suburbs still.

The real goal is to ban all personal transportation of course. So EVs are the next target of the left.

Posted by: Montec at April 01, 2024 11:25 AM (hxe/1)

108 Why? What is their purported reasoning?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 01, 2024 11:23 AM (xT8gx)

Salmon fucking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:25 AM (daqPs)

109 Puddinhead @ -88
The movie Noah is total bullshit, my friend, you did well to bail out early.

Posted by: Eromero at April 01, 2024 11:25 AM (NxC5+)

110 I've said for a while now that the ultimate goal for the Left is ZERO humans on the planet.

Our goal is to be one of the select few that survive (plus a few Untermenschen to do the heavy lifting)

Posted by: Klaus Schwab at April 01, 2024 11:26 AM (yOPBE)

111 =====

Plot twist:

Becky is Cthulhu!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO)

Smokey and The Bandit III: Smokey IS The Bandit

Posted by: Albert Einstein at April 01, 2024 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

112 Plot twist:

Becky is Cthulhu!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO)

He's gained weight.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:26 AM (daqPs)

113 90 The land under solar farms is contaminated, sterile and void of any life.

You'd think the enviro-nazis would be... "concerned."
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Michael Shellenberger was a director at the Sierra Club or similar. He went to a solar farm construction site, and was appalled at how they killed every animal and plant and sterilized the soil. He is now part of the fight to stop these monstrosities.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:21 AM (5P4Tr)
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All the "organic" farming for acres of tofu and similar vegan and vegetarian foods is the same. The land must be pretty much sterilized -- and kept sterilized -- in order to grow their junk. Every living thing on and under the land needs to be killed, and anything that wanders on the land later must also be killed. Far more animal life is killed this way than at a slaughterhouse.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:26 AM (iFTx/)

114 Mark Steyn published some interesting numbers yesterday:

In 1971, Canada had 33,430 Muslims.

In 2001, Canada had 579,645 Muslims.

In 2021, Canada had 1,775,715 Muslims.

Greater Toronto is now ten percent Muslim.

People in Toronto celebrating the "Transgender Day of Visibility" had better do it now - the politics of the Toronto area are going to change radically in the coming decades.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 01, 2024 11:27 AM (YAtuc)

115
Salmon fucking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:25 AM (daqPs)

Nope.

We killed them all off, to save them.

Posted by: California at April 01, 2024 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)

116 Our goal is to be one of the select few that survive (plus a few Untermenschen to do the heavy lifting)
Posted by: Klaus Schwab at April 01, 2024 11:26 AM (yOPBE)

Do you feel in control?

Posted by: Lord Humonculus at April 01, 2024 11:27 AM (daqPs)

117 Yet - Power Technology, news, January 25, 2024 "Ukraine planning nuclear reaction construction by autumn" Much of the effort to rapidly rebuild Ukraine's nuclear capacity is an attempt to make up for the takeover of Zaporizhzhia

(In part) "... Europe’s largest nuclear power station, which Russia gained control of in early March 2022, shortly after the invasion of Ukraine began.

“With the third and fourth (Khmelnytkyi units) we want to compensate for Zaporizhzhia, and now we are in the talks with our Bulgarian partners on the two reactors we want to take,” Galushchenko said. He noted that he was optimistic about the timeline for the project, stating: “If we received the reactor vessels today, I think it would be 2.5 years and we would have a third reactor online.”

Nuclear energy is Ukraine’s most dominant source of energy, making up around 60% of the country’s capacity in 2022. As such, the UK announced a £192m (Hrv9.17bn) loan to support Ukraine’s nuclear industry in 2023, with the UK energy secretary remarking that “Putin has used energy as a weapon of war”.
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But not the US, UK & the EU, right?

And we're 'keeping' the EU.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 01, 2024 11:28 AM (GshMh)

118 108 Why? What is their purported reasoning?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 01, 2024 11:23 AM (xT8gx)

Salmon fucking.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024 11:25 AM (daqPs)

Hmmmm....Sounds fishy to me.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 01, 2024 11:29 AM (T+Iwg)

119 Dang, what happened to everyone?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:31 AM (CsUN+)

120 Salmon fucking.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024
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Hmmmm....Sounds fishy to me.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 01, 2024

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A scaly situation

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 01, 2024 11:32 AM (J2vNu)

121 with the UK energy secretary remarking that “Putin has used energy as a weapon of war”.

Those bastards!

Posted by: The United States Air Force! at April 01, 2024 11:32 AM (YAtuc)

122 "People in Toronto celebrating the "Transgender Day of Visibility" had better do it now - the politics of the Toronto area are going to change radically in the coming decades.
Posted by: The ARC of History"

Same goes for Easter. Or has the govt there already banned that?

Surprisingly I still see that word used some on the schools and govt offices. But it is mostly about the Easter bunny and Easter eggs.

Posted by: Ripley at April 01, 2024 11:33 AM (PTDkx)

123 121 with the UK energy secretary remarking that “Putin has used energy as a weapon of war”.

Those bastards!
Posted by: The United States Air Force! at April 01, 2024 11:32 AM (YAtuc)

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I remember when Trump told Europe to be less reliant on Russian energy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:33 AM (GBKbO)

124 with the UK energy secretary remarking that “Putin has used energy as a weapon of war”.

Now do the Nord Stream pipeline.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)

125 The comical/pathetic thing is that hailstorms like that happen every spring in Texas, not always at the same spot, but they are very common. A few weeks ago had one at my house, have a porch with a metal roof and it sounded like a team of Mexicans were up there beating on it with ballpeen hammers.

A few years back there was an infamous hailstorm in Ft. Worth that knocked out 50,000 windshield in 15 minutes. Oh yeah this iis a great place to stick a bunch of glass solar panels out in the open.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 01, 2024 11:33 AM (i9ffA)

126 120 Salmon fucking.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024
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Hmmmm....Sounds fishy to me.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 01, 2024

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A scaly situation
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 01, 2024 11:32 AM (J2vNu)

Yeah, have to be careful they don't sockeye to me.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 01, 2024 11:34 AM (T+Iwg)

127 A few years back there was an infamous hailstorm in Ft. Worth that knocked out 50,000 windshield in 15 minutes. Oh yeah this iis a great place to stick a bunch of glass solar panels out in the open.

Oh, s***!

Posted by: The Safelite guy at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM (CsUN+)

128 Now do the Nord Stream pipeline.....

Tee hee!

Posted by: Victoria Nuland, The Angel of Death! at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM (YAtuc)

129 Salmon fucking.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2024
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Hmmmm....Sounds fishy to me.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 01, 2024

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A scaly situation
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

That's an incohorent statement.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM (9yWhg)

130 I have been researching solar for our farm (El rancho blaster)

Not because it's clean and not because it is cheaper. But it is independent. Off grid power seems important in an era where they can shut off the grid.

Posted by: blaster at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM (tgjXr)

131
I remember when Trump told Europe to be less reliant on Russian energy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024

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And the left screamed at him for it, no doubt, though I can't recall what poorly-connected-to-fact reason they gave.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM (J2vNu)

132 55
‘ 2008 was the bit about '100 new nuclear plants to be built.'’
Instead, we got a smug, racist faggot for 8 years.
We kind of traded down there.

Posted by: Cross guy from Life of Brian at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM (jbnUc)

133 On March 22, Saskatchewan’s fleet of grid-scale wind power generation produced next to nothing for half the day, and zero power at all for just over an hour.
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I'm so old that I remember when a particularly still day, or a particularly windy day, or a particularly hot day, or a particularly cold day *didn't* cause infrastructure failure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:36 AM (6bTRc)

134 131 And the left screamed at him for it, no doubt, though I can't recall what poorly-connected-to-fact reason they gave.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM (J2vNu)

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The leftist media made fun of Rick Perry (when he was Secretary of Energy) once for saying that electric street lights are a great deterrent to fighting crime.

What the leftist media makes fun of most of the time is reality, fact, and truth.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:36 AM (GBKbO)

135
A massive solar farm outside of Houston was destroyed by hail. Not only was that valuable farm and ranch land already diverted from productive agricultural use, but it is now at risk of being poisoned by the chemicals in the solar panels that were destroyed.

I guarantee that natural gas rights were purchased for the same footprint as the solar plant. The hailstorm just made it easier to put in the LNG wells after the solar cells shits the bed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2024 11:36 AM (n+4am)

136 They're actually recommissioning a nuke plant in SW Michigan, on the lake.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:37 AM (9yWhg)

137 Bawling like a dying calf in a hailstorm. Brings it home don’t it?

Posted by: Eromero at April 01, 2024 11:37 AM (NxC5+)

138
The leftist media made fun of Rick Perry (when he was Secretary of Energy) once for saying that electric street lights are a great deterrent to fighting crime.

What the leftist media makes fun of most of the time is reality, fact, and truth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:36 AM (GBKbO)

They don't want anyone shining lights where they commit crimes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

139 Now do the Nord Stream pipeline.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:33 AM

We already did.

- The Derp State

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 01, 2024 11:38 AM (5sOEG)

140 Not because it's clean and not because it is cheaper. But it is independent. Off grid power seems important in an era where they can shut off the grid.

Posted by: blaster at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM (tgjXr)

protect it from hail by putting it indoors.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 01, 2024 11:38 AM (i9ffA)

141 "Ukraine planning nuclear reaction construction by autumn" Much of the effort to rapidly rebuild Ukraine's nuclear capacity is an attempt to make up for the takeover of Zaporizhzhia

Solar and wind isn't good enough for them, or does it actually have to work?

Posted by: t-bird at April 01, 2024 11:38 AM (D5SRX)

142 Yet these giant bird cuisinarts require petroleum products, and lots of it. You know, there just might be a possibility that the hustlers getting rich from the wind energy scam haven’t been completely honest with us.
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If a thing moves, that thing has grease. If it's an organic thing like a person or an animal, it has cartilage and similar. If it's a plant, its fibers are wet enough to move without snapping. If it's machinery, it's grease and if it's grease, it's derived from petroleum.

The bigger the thing is and the faster it moves, the more grease it needs. Grease also wears out. Wind mills and the like don't consume *much* petroleum as compared to energy produced, but it doesn't consume zero petroleum.

And yeah, it's all a scam. Like everything else. This is Scamerica.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:38 AM (6bTRc)

143 I used to be an analyst in the power business specifically nuclear.

The 2020s are a perfect storm as nuke plants and dams hit their license limits. They've had waves some of the nuke limits but they are still closing plants and they are breaching dams.

Good to hear the Biden administration suddenly waking up to nuke power but it will take decades to bring new plants online.

Posted by: blaster at April 01, 2024 11:38 AM (tgjXr)

144 Same goes for Easter. Or has the govt there already banned that?

Steyn's warnings about the long-term consequences of mass Muslim immigration into the West twenty years ago continue to be prophetic.

The difference is that twenty years ago, there was probably still time to do something, and now, probably not.

Canada had the option of limiting Muslim immigration twenty years ago, but now, with ten percent of greater Toronto being Muslim, advocating that would be political suicide.

Posted by: Victoria Nuland, The Angel of Death! at April 01, 2024 11:39 AM (YAtuc)

145 The leftist media made fun of Rick Perry (when he was Secretary of Energy) once for saying that electric street lights are a great deterrent to fighting crime.

What the leftist media makes fun of most of the time is reality, fact, and truth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
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One of the first things our current university police chief did when he started here was to significantly increase the amount of outdoor lighting at night (along with tons of security cameras). He may have been onto something there...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 01, 2024 11:39 AM (7fElN)

146 It must have been a rare “500-year” hailstorm produced by climate change. Or maybe, having glass panels facing the sky in the hail-belt is a really bad idea.
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Denver gets lots of hail. I wonder how much solar infrastructure is damaged every year there.

Hey, remember when hailstorms didn't take out power generation?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:39 AM (6bTRc)

147
Hey, remember when hailstorms didn't take out power generation?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:39 AM (6bTRc)

Texas never had blackouts during cold snaps until Barack Owebama decided shutting down all the coal fired plants was a great idea and ERCOT got control of the Texas Energy Grid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

148 The bigger the thing is and the faster it moves, the more grease it needs. Grease also wears out. Wind mills and the like don't consume *much* petroleum as compared to energy produced, but it doesn't consume zero petroleum.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:38 AM (6bTRc)
___________

"Yea. We use a lot of lube . . . ."

-- Pete Bootyjuice

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:41 AM (iFTx/)

149 I understand that this rant is, primarily, aimed at wind "power" and I agree with your frustration. In a perfect world, the planet would be saved by covering every square inch - excluding my compound, of course - with solar panels followed by blocking out the sun.

-- Bill Gates (probably)

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 01, 2024 11:41 AM (GYIa4)

150 147
Texas never had blackouts during cold snaps until Barack Owebama decided shutting down all the coal fired plants was a great idea and ERCOT got control of the Texas Energy Grid.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

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And, you forget, America refused to pass cap and trade which angered Gaia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)

151 Alberta will block renewable energy projects on “prime” agricultural land and limit the placement of wind turbines to preserve “pristine viewscapes”, a decision that increasingly pits the western Canadian province against environmental groups pushing green energy – and the companies investing in it.
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My folks used to live in a little rural village in North Carolina. A few years back, we were in the neighborhood and they wanted to drive through it and take a look, since they loved living there. For the most part, they were happy to see it again.

Then we rounded a curve and saw a beautiful and enormous house on top of a green hill with verdant lawns. It had always been there. What had not always been there was the gigantic solar installation covering almost the entire side of the hill like a cancerous growth.

Upon seeing it, my mother exclaimed, "they've ruined it! The vandals!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:41 AM (6bTRc)

152 And, you forget, America refused to pass cap and trade which angered Gaia.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)

I've got something Gaia can bob up and down on......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)

153 I knew when the democrat marxists were for "green" energy, "renewables", "recycling", rape, environmentally "friendly", "sustainable", biodegradable and rape that it was just more faggot ass propaganda and all a money looting scam and I am automatically against all of it.

Just like all the assholes who buy EV's and drive around saying "look at me! look at me!". Fuck off and get that bucket of shit that Red Chinese slave labor and Elon Musk looting the US treasury built off of the road that my gas tax pays for.

Posted by: Mortimer Duke at April 01, 2024 11:42 AM (9KyZG)

154 The forest in Sababurg, Reinhardswald, which is in the central German state of Hesse, is said to be an inspiration for the Brothers Grimm mythical tales, but now it’s being destroyed to facilitate the country’s latest green energy project.
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Felling "old growth" trees to make paper: bad.
Felling "old growth" trees to restore cathedrals: bad.
Felling "old growth" *forests* to make way for solar panels: good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:42 AM (6bTRc)

155 "We're a great nation because we're good people!"

One of Joe's sentences in Joe's speech to the crowd at the on-going WH Easter Egg Roll. It was all boiler-plate Joe stuff about 'America means Possibilites!'

Weird, botched, staging so far.

The Marine Band is playing Sousa marches, loudly. non-stop. Large, striped helium balloons all over the place, marked, Engineering, Mathematics, and other STEM-type education fields. The pool camera view of Joe and DOCTOR Biden speaking from a WH balcony was blocked by one of those balloons. The pool camera is not showing Decrepit Joe on the lawn with the kiddos, so far. Whoa, there is Joe and Kamalama now mixing with the kiddos, accompanied by a seven-foot tall, aviator-sunglasses wearing, Easter Bunny. Now Joe is shuffling around to talk with kids behind the fence and rope-lines. Now the Marine Band is playing pop tunes.

Easter Monday, Shmeaster Monday, to the Biden Junta White House. A strange spectacle today.

Posted by: Gref at April 01, 2024 11:43 AM (5fDan)

156 My company wants to buy Tesla semi trucks. Nevermind there's already a shortage of chargers, particular ones that can charge an electric semi, but the semis have failed to perform as advertised even when charged.

Oh and the semis will be used to haul heavy equipment. That runs on diesel. Assuming they can actually get the equipment where it needs to go.

but management loves being all techy and "green" so, whatever....

Posted by: brak at April 01, 2024 11:44 AM (AR07F)

157
I have been researching solar for our farm (El rancho blaster)

Not because it's clean and not because it is cheaper. But it is independent. Off grid power seems important in an era where they can shut off the grid.

Posted by: blaster at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM

I've been 'playing' with a small scale setup of an eight foot portable panel and 2k battery which cost about $1,600.00 total. It's quite the educational experience to see the readout of watts being generated under differing conditions and how often the panel has to be rotated for maximum gain. Before outlaying a ton of money I'd recommend trying something like that.

I know now, despite the fact I have a perfect location, I'll never 'go big' from what I've learned. But having that battery backup is really nice when the lights go out.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:44 AM (RKVpM)

158 My company wants to buy Tesla semi trucks. Nevermind there's already a shortage of chargers, particular ones that can charge an electric semi, but the semis have failed to perform as advertised even when charged.

Oh and the semis will be used to haul heavy equipment. That runs on diesel. Assuming they can actually get the equipment where it needs to go.

but management loves being all techy and "green" so, whatever....
Posted by: brak at April 01, 2024 11:44 AM (AR07F)

Biden spent billions and has produced 7 charging stations.

Good luck on that. And remember, in the southeast, the largest provider of Tesla charging stations is Buc-ee's fuel stations.

Semi trucks are NOT WELCOME at Buc-ee's.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

159 Whoa, there is Joe and Kamalama now mixing with the kiddos, accompanied by a seven-foot tall, aviator-sunglasses wearing, Easter Bunny.

Wasn't that one of his she-handlers assigned to keep an eye on him last year?

Posted by: Ripley at April 01, 2024 11:45 AM (PTDkx)

160 157
I have been researching solar for our farm (El rancho blaster)

Not because it's clean and not because it is cheaper. But it is independent. Off grid power seems important in an era where they can shut off the grid.

Posted by: blaster at April 01, 2024 11:35 AM

I've been 'playing' with a small scale setup of an eight foot portable panel and 2k battery which cost about $1,600.00 total. It's quite the educational experience to see the readout of watts being generated under differing conditions and how often the panel has to be rotated for maximum gain. Before outlaying a ton of money I'd recommend trying something like that.

I know now, despite the fact I have a perfect location, I'll never 'go big' from what I've learned. But having that battery backup is really nice when the lights go out.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:44 AM (RKVpM)
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Probably better off with diesel generator.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:46 AM (iFTx/)

161 I know now, despite the fact I have a perfect location, I'll never 'go big' from what I've learned. But having that battery backup is really nice when the lights go out.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:44 AM (RKVpM)
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If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a night.
If you ~~set a man on fire~~ give a man a house-sized lithium battery, he'll be warm for the rest of his life!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:46 AM (6bTRc)

162 >>> 97 95 If climate change is supposedly causing an increase of extreme weather events, why are they so insistent on building sources of energy that are highly vulnerable to extreme weather events?

What if building too many wind/solar farms is the REAL cause of extreme weather?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 01, 2024 11:22 AM (7fElN)

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What if their objective is to wake the Old Ones?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

Fcking cultists. HATE them.

Posted by: Agent Franks at April 01, 2024 11:46 AM (llON8)

163 You want to hear another funny story?

The Forest Service here in Washington State is going to start killing barred owls because they are taking over the nests of spotted owls.

The owl wars, they have begun.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 01, 2024 11:47 AM (U5n2r)

164 The Forest Service here in Washington State is going to start killing barred owls because they are taking over the nests of spotted owls.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

Posted by: Laws of Nature at April 01, 2024 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

165 Opps something went boom in Damascus this Morning at the iranian embassy and apparently an important Iranians is not more!!!!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 01, 2024 11:48 AM (pVWRI)

166 At Insty:

DEPRECIATION: Oh, Cool, Our $69K Fisker Ocean Is Only Worth $21K Now.

We bought a 2023 Fisker Ocean Extreme for our long-term test fleet in January — as in, two months ago. At the time, we paid $69,012 for a pretty loaded example of Fisker’s electric SUV, with the promise of over-the-air enhancements to come.

But following a brunt of bad news for Fisker, Inc. this week — including rumors of bankruptcy and a mega price drop on 2023 model-year Oceans in an effort to boost cash flow — we thought it wise to have our Ocean appraised at our local CarMax store. (Full discolsure: Edmunds is a division of CarMax.) The appraisal we received was shocking, to say the least.

Yep, you read that correctly: Our 2-month-old Fisker Ocean with 4,220 miles on the odometer is worth $21,000, according to CarMax. That’s a depreciation of 69.6%.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+)

167 163 The owl wars, they have begun.

Woodsie’s gonna kick some ass.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:49 AM (9yWhg)

168 >>> 163 You want to hear another funny story?

The Forest Service here in Washington State is going to start killing barred owls because they are taking over the nests of spotted owls.

The owl wars, they have begun.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 01, 2024 11:47 AM (U5n2r)

Great, stupid humans' feralgov is picking winners of US now...

Posted by: libertarian owls at April 01, 2024 11:49 AM (llON8)

169 Opps something went boom in Damascus this Morning at the iranian embassy and apparently an important Iranians is not more!!!!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 01, 2024 11:48 AM (pVWRI)

Are you having a stroke? Do we need to call 911?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

170 If killing whales in service to energy production is a good thing, maybe we should bring back the whaling boats to Nantucket.

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JackStraw hardest hit ... but Muldoon will have enough new material for a new book of limericks.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 01, 2024 11:50 AM (Tqn0/)

171
Yep, you read that correctly: Our 2-month-old Fisker Ocean with 4,220 miles on the odometer is worth $21,000, according to CarMax. That’s a depreciation of 69.6%.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+)

"Change for Clunkers"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

172
The Forest Service here in Washington State is going to start killing barred owls because they are taking over the nests of spotted owls.

Posted by: nurse ratched

Love those owls.

Taste like chicken.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2024 11:50 AM (gQ6ss)

173 More green disasters from California....

Removing dams causes mass wildlife kill. https://tinyurl.com/3yff4rwf

Letting forests grow wild causes fires. Insurance companies can't pay for that any more. https://tinyurl.com/mwuasum2

Posted by: PJ at April 01, 2024 11:51 AM (G1dq6)

174 Egad, the barred owls are moving in. They're not our sort. Kill them.

Posted by: The Forest Service at April 01, 2024 11:52 AM (CsUN+)

175 ... But following a brunt of bad news for Fisker, Inc. this week — including rumors of bankruptcy and a mega price drop on 2023 model-year Oceans in an effort to boost cash flow — we thought it wise to have our Ocean appraised at our local CarMax store. (Full discolsure: Edmunds is a division of CarMax.) The appraisal we received was shocking, to say the least.

Yep, you read that correctly: Our 2-month-old Fisker Ocean with 4,220 miles on the odometer is worth $21,000, according to CarMax. That’s a depreciation of 69.6%.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+)
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Huh. So they're blaming the brutal depreciation on Fisker's particular woes and that may be (probably is) a contributing factor, but EV depreciation is awful across the board regardless of make.

So is the publication in denial about EV depreciation - "this is a special circumstance of manufacturer woes, not a real problem!" while flop-sweating - or is the publication trying to deceive its readers?

I report. You decide.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:52 AM (6bTRc)

176 *Reporting in Al-Arabiya
The person killed in the attack is Mohammed Rada Zahedi, a senior member of the Quds Force of the Revolutionary Guards in Syria and Lebanon.
And another unverified Arab report that Ziad Nachala, the leader of the Jihad, was also with him and was killed.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 01, 2024 11:52 AM (pVWRI)

177 So is the publication in denial about EV depreciation - "this is a special circumstance of manufacturer woes, not a real problem!" while flop-sweating - or is the publication trying to deceive its readers?

I report. You decide.

Akshually, I reported.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:53 AM (CsUN+)

178 163 You want to hear another funny story?

The Forest Service here in Washington State is going to start killing barred owls because they are taking over the nests of spotted owls.

The owl wars, they have begun.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 01, 2024 11:47 AM (U5n2r)
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It's the dumbest plan ever. So of course it's the government's plan. They want to kill 500k (!) barred owls over the next 30 (!) years. This from a government that can barely execute a plan that extends more than a few days. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:53 AM (iFTx/)

179 @166

>>Yep, you read that correctly: Our 2-month-old Fisker Ocean with 4,220 miles on the odometer is worth $21,000, according to CarMax. That’s a depreciation of 69.6%.

The biggest depreciation hit I've seen so far was a dude who bought a Porsche Tacycan EV for 152k, still owed 86k, wanted to trade it in for a 911 ICE, was told by Porsche they would not accept it as a trade in because they have a glut of EV's thay can't sell, the most money he could get quoted on by autraders/sellers was 49k.

Now that's a bloodbath.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 01, 2024 11:53 AM (JIdXK)

180 So is the publication in denial about EV depreciation - "this is a special circumstance of manufacturer woes, not a real problem!" while flop-sweating - or is the publication trying to deceive its readers?

I report. You decide.

Akshually, I reported.

Now make with the cuties.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:53 AM (CsUN+)

181 wind turbines are a necessary part of a net zero world without petroleum. Yet these giant bird cuisinarts require petroleum products, and lots of it.

That's preposterous! I use silicone-based lubricants all the time, and they're great! So what if it costs a little more for a 8 oz bottle to fit in your purse...it's worth it to save the planet!

Posted by: Sam Brinton at April 01, 2024 11:53 AM (JCZqz)

182 Fcking cultists. HATE them.
Posted by: Agent Franks at April 01, 2024 11:46 AM (llON

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Heh. I understood that reference...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 01, 2024 11:53 AM (7fElN)

183
Probably better off with diesel generator.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:46 AM

I'm planning for total shutdown of everything. Refineries gone, grid down, transformers everywhere destroyed. No gasoline, natural gas, diesel, kerosene, anything.

But the sun will shine for about 1,000 hours of usable solar at my location per year. I can power my well pump, heat water, and run some energy sipping appliances.

Before Joe Biden I didn't think this way. The left is truly batshit crazy.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:53 AM (RKVpM)

184 148
‘ Yea. We use a lot of lube . . . ." ‘

Yes, but this is rotational motion whereas you are pistoning in and out. The wear is different.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 01, 2024 11:54 AM (jbnUc)

185 Yep, you read that correctly: Our 2-month-old Fisker Ocean with 4,220 miles on the odometer is worth $21,000, according to CarMax. That’s a depreciation of 69.6%.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+)

"Change for Clunkers"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

Hold on to it. In 30 years it'll be worth the inflation adjusted equivalent of $65K. Plus, if you get a big power outage cold snap in the meantime you can always sprinkle a little water in the battery pack and stay warm.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 01, 2024 11:54 AM (GYIa4)

186 New York Times prints US deep state/Soros funded disinformation group story:

China’s Advancing Efforts to Influence the U.S. Election Raise Alarms
China has adopted some of the same misinformation tactics that Russia used ahead of the 2016 election, researchers and government officials say.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 01, 2024 11:11 AM (7fVdQ)

so they're going to spend about 100k on ads that will TOTES swing the election???

-_-

Posted by: SturmToddler at April 01, 2024 11:54 AM (bving)

187 If anyone starts talking about licensing a windfarm in your area make sure you have them post bonds for removing them at end of life or you'll have dead useless windmills.

If you want examples: Tehachapi California as well as San Gorgonio Pass, or Banning Pass California.
Tehachapi has oil soaked hills, very ugly.
They just leave them standing East of Palm Springs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2024 11:55 AM (gQ6ss)

188 179 The biggest depreciation hit I've seen so far was a dude who bought a Porsche Tacycan EV for 152k, still owed 86k, wanted to trade it in for a 911 ICE, was told by Porsche they would not accept it as a trade in because they have a glut of EV's thay can't sell, the most money he could get quoted on by autraders/sellers was 49k.

Now that's a bloodbath.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 01, 2024 11:53 AM (JIdXK)

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"Still, a better investment than an ICE."
-The man in question who goes by the moniker Joe Xiden

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 11:55 AM (GBKbO)

189 More green disasters from California....

Removing dams causes mass wildlife kill. https://tinyurl.com/3yff4rwf

Letting forests grow wild causes fires. Insurance companies can't pay for that any more. https://tinyurl.com/mwuasum2
Posted by: PJ at April 01, 2024 11:51 AM (G1dq6)

It's almost as if modern environmental groups are grossly incompetent, at best, and intentionally evil at more likely.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 01, 2024 11:56 AM (GYIa4)

190 This busty brunette in her underwear agrees with Archimedes that contextual commentary is not the same as reportage, and the two should not be conflated:
http://tiny.cc/ra4mxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:57 AM (6bTRc)

191 The Forest Service here in Washington State is going to start killing barred owls because they are taking over the nests of spotted owls.

The owl wars, they have begun.
Posted by: nurse ratched

For a group of people who believe in evolution, they have a funny way of showing it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 11:57 AM (5P4Tr)

192 "Yep, you read that correctly: Our 2-month-old Fisker Ocean with 4,220 miles on the odometer is worth $21,000, according to CarMax. That’s a depreciation of 69.6%.
Posted by: Archimedes"

See? Inflation IS under control

Posted by: Ripley at April 01, 2024 11:57 AM (PTDkx)

193 New Leftist chant

Deforestation good !!!

Deforestation bad !!!!

We're not dumb

we're just mad

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2024 11:58 AM (AIm4E)

194 It's the dumbest plan ever. So of course it's the government's plan. They want to kill 500k (!) barred owls over the next 30 (!) years. This from a government that can barely execute a plan that extends more than a few days. Good luck with that.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:53 AM (iFTx/)

Hang on. The government is planning on spending a little over $1T during that time to convince barred owls that they're gay in order to reduce the birthrate.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 01, 2024 11:58 AM (GYIa4)

195 http://tiny.cc/ra4mxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Offputting face. 2/10. Would not bang.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg)

196 End game is a feudal society, which is great for the elites and sucks for everyone else. Our Third World newcomers will adapt seamlessly.

Watch Canada. They are right there. Young citizens can't afford housing. Existing homeowners can't afford to move out. The government is buying up mortgage bonds to further inflate home prices and degrade its currency. And they're implementing a crazy energy tax to make their energy rich citizens shiver and starve.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 01, 2024 11:59 AM (wBaIH)

197 190 This busty brunette in her underwear agrees with Archimedes that contextual commentary is not the same as reportage, and the two should not be conflated:
http://tiny.cc/ra4mxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 11:57 AM (6bTRc)
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Odd tranny vibes. Verdict: unbangable absent additional intel.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)

198 I saw Offputting Face open for Alice in Chains at The Starplex in '91.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 12:00 PM (Zz0t1)

199 Drove from Central Calif, to Denver, AND BACK, in 5 days last week.

No F'n way you do that with an electric vehicle.

Oh, and did I mention the two SNOW storms I went through?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 01, 2024 12:00 PM (xaFKb)

200 In Big Solar's defense, none of them could have possibly foreseen hail storms as a threat. They're a very new phenomenon, never seen before the advent of solar farms.

Posted by: red speck at April 01, 2024 12:00 PM (0Id0S)

201 163. The Forest Service here in Washington State is going to start killing barred owls because they are taking over the nests of spotted owls.

The owl wars, they have begun.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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NPR, today: The barred owl is crowding out its less aggressive relative, the northern spotted owl, in the Northwestern states, according to the USFWS. To ensure the survival of the northern spotted owl, a threatened species, the service is proposing the mass removal of over 470,000 barred owls across California, Washington and Oregon over a three-decade span. The proposed action will also help prevent declines in the California spotted owls, another species facing competition from barred owls, it said.

Very sad. And yet:
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The Aspen Daily Planet, today: Mammoths to be reintroduced to Colorado amid concerns they could get wild. In part, "Colorado voters approved a special ballot measure last Friday to reintroduce woolly mammoths to the Western Slope. The measure requires the state to introduce a full herd by 2030." ...

“If we reintroduce the mammoth, we could get our current fires back under control,” said Dr. Ivory Tauer, a researcher at Harfhard University. "

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 01, 2024 12:01 PM (GshMh)

202 Watch Canada. They are right there. Young citizens can't afford housing. Existing homeowners can't afford to move out. The government is buying up mortgage bonds to further inflate home prices and degrade its currency. And they're implementing a crazy energy tax to make their energy rich citizens shiver and starve.

I am optimistic, because Trudeau's reign of error is coming to a close, and Pierre Poilievre is almost certain to be the next PM. He's whip smart and based, and will very quickly undo much of the damage done by JT.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 12:01 PM (CsUN+)

203 >>The Forest Service here in Washington State is going to start killing barred owls because they are taking over the nests of spotted owls.

A coward owl dies a thousand deaths, but the valiant owl tastes death but once!

Posted by: Bard Owl at April 01, 2024 12:01 PM (ezvyW)

204 In Big Solar's defense, none of them could have possibly foreseen hail storms as a threat. They're a very new phenomenon, never seen before the advent of solar farms.
Posted by: red speck

Yeah, about that...
-- The Pharaoh of the Exodus

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 01, 2024 12:01 PM (9yWhg)

205 The Great Unenlightment continues apace.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 01, 2024 12:02 PM (ID6pY)

206 Can you guess what is in common between wind turbines generating no electricity due to very low winds, wind turbines failing catastrophically, and solar cell farms being hugely damaged by hail storms?

The affected outfits supplying customers with green energy from those sources charge those customers for the green power equipment whether it is or not generating power.

And the baseload power utilities have to maintain non-green power capability to meet the baseload need at all times, charging customers for that hardware and the needed fossil fuel. Including required maintenance downtime, as always.

Yet people are amazed that their electricity bills are hugely increasing? It's not a puzzle. It's not evil, profiteering utilities screwing customers. (Well, not screwing customers to the max.)

Posted by: Gref at April 01, 2024 12:02 PM (5fDan)

207 The Great Unenlightment continues apace.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 01, 2024 12:02 PM (ID6pY)
++++
Remember when there were jokes about this?

"What did socialists use for light before candles? Electricity!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 12:03 PM (6bTRc)

208 Drove from Central Calif, to Denver, AND BACK, in 5 days last week.

No F'n way you do that with an electric vehicle.

Oh, and did I mention the two SNOW storms I went through?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 01, 2024 12:00 PM (xaFKb)

I have challenged EV owners to a race. I'll drive my diesel truck and tow my 5th wheel camper from the DFW area to Lubbock and back (325 mi each way).

I will get an average of 11 MPG likely, so yes, my initial outlay of cash will be higher, until you input the fact that TIME IS MONEY, then I kick your ass up and down and 6 ways on Sunday. Plus, I can get it done in one day (12 to 14 hours), where it will take you, likely, 2 days, minimum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 01, 2024 12:03 PM (Zz0t1)

209 Can I just say that it's some kind of impressive at the number of Japanese proper nouns that Microsoft Word recognizes?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

210 207 Remember when there were jokes about this?

"What did socialists use for light before candles? Electricity!"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 01, 2024 12:03 PM (6bTRc)

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"You were able to get candles?! What did you do? Wait outside the candle dispensary for a week?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 12:04 PM (GBKbO)

211 204. In Big Solar's defense, none of them could have possibly foreseen hail storms as a threat. Posted by: red speck

Really? Ask the good citizens of Berks County, Pa and many other locations within the state.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 01, 2024 12:04 PM (GshMh)

212 A coward owl dies a thousand deaths, but the valiant owl tastes death but once!
Posted by: Bard Owl at April 01, 2024 12:01 PM (ezvyW)

I larfed.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 01, 2024 12:04 PM (T+Iwg)

213 I have challenged EV owners to a race. I'll drive my diesel truck and tow my 5th wheel camper from the DFW area to Lubbock and back (325 mi each way).

make sure it's summer when you'll need to blast the AC each way the whole time

Posted by: brak at April 01, 2024 12:04 PM (AR07F)

214 Comrade green energy like food, not everyone get it. But the future will be glorious. GLORIOUS!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 01, 2024 12:04 PM (17s+e)

215 211 204. In Big Solar's defense, none of them could have possibly foreseen hail storms as a threat. Posted by: red speck

Really? Ask the good citizens of Berks County, Pa and many other locations within the state.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 01, 2024 12:04 PM (GshMh)

Pretty sure that was sarcasm.

I hope no one is called an idiot.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 01, 2024 12:05 PM (KbCG3)

216 Yet people are amazed that their electricity bills are hugely increasing? It's not a puzzle. It's not evil, profiteering utilities screwing customers. (Well, not screwing customers to the max.)

Unfortunately, Germany is looking at a collapse in its manufacturing sector. Their ridiculous lurch to renewables plays a very big role in their lack of competitiveness. It'll be the first time a modern first world economy commits suicide.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 12:05 PM (CsUN+)

217 so they're going to spend about 100k on ads that will TOTES swing the election???

-_-
Posted by: SturmToddler at April 01, 2024 11:54 AM (bving)

+++++

Be on your toes and avoid having your vote influenced by China's disinformation campaign. The NYTimes notes that a post might be suspect if it contains "awkward phrases like 'how dare' instead of 'how date you'"

To be for warmed is to be four armed.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 01, 2024 12:05 PM (7fVdQ)

218 215 I hope no one is called an idiot.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 01, 2024 12:05 PM (KbCG3)

======

You can call me an idiot.

I'm married.

I'm used to it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

219 “If we reintroduce the mammoth, we could get our current fires back under control,” said Dr. Ivory Tauer, a researcher at Harfhard University. "
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 01, 2024

***
As long as you don't also reintroduce any mastodons. Funny-looking bastards with weird teeth. We hate 'em.

Posted by: Lab Mammoths at April 01, 2024 12:05 PM (J2vNu)

220 Nuclear power could solve all of the Left's power generating environmental issues .

That's why we will never have nuclear power as our primary power generating source.

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2024 12:05 PM (AIm4E)

221 I see a number of Tesla's around here. The nearest dealership is in Louisville, about 35 miles away. One of them has been sitting at a local repair shop for about a month.

No clue what the issue is, but it appears to be terminal or the independent shop can't get whatever it needs to fix the car.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 01, 2024 12:06 PM (Q4IgG)

222 Can you guess what is in common between wind turbines generating no electricity due to very low winds, wind turbines failing catastrophically, and solar cell farms being hugely damaged by hail storms?

-

That mother nature doesn't want people getting their energy off of her.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2024 12:06 PM (5P4Tr)

223 nood biden cancels easter

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 01, 2024 12:07 PM (CIS44)

224 New one: transgender visibility day

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2024 12:07 PM (CsUN+)

225 218 215 I hope no one is called an idiot.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 01, 2024 12:05 PM (KbCG3)

======

You can call me an idiot.

I'm married.

I'm used to it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at April 01, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

At least you're not being sarcastic.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 01, 2024 12:07 PM (KbCG3)

226 Ace be here

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 01, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu)

227 Biden spent billions and has produced 7 charging stations.

Good luck on that. And remember, in the southeast, the largest provider of Tesla charging stations is Buc-ee's fuel stations.

Tesla expects to start delivering them in 2026 they say. I don't think it will ever happen.

Posted by: brak at April 01, 2024 12:09 PM (AR07F)

228 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 01, 2024 12:11 PM (T4tVD)

229 I am sure Cthullu will listen

SPELL.
HIS.
NAME.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 01, 2024 12:11 PM (zdLoL)

230 51
I hate the idea of offshore wind farms. Any permanent structure installed anywhere near shipping is ludicrous. Our 'betters' have never been out on the ocean when fog sets in and visibility goes to absolute shit. Having something out there to perhaps run into is insane.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2024 11:14 AM (RKVpM)

At least one lightship was run over by an ocean liner off the northeast coast.

Posted by: Cloud William at April 01, 2024 12:19 PM (8RadT)

231 101 Tried watching the movie 'Noah.' It was weird. Gave up and went to sleep.

Posted by: Pudinhead

I guess you missed the 10-minute part where Jennifer Connelly gets totally nekkid. Pity

was that after he spent several minutes asking for consent to touch various things? although i might have it confused with a different movie.

Posted by: anachronda at April 01, 2024 12:20 PM (v3pYe)

232 I am sure Cthullu will listen

SPELL.
HIS.
NAME.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

Gesundheidt !

Posted by: JT at April 01, 2024 12:30 PM (T4tVD)

233 if it's grease, it's derived from petroleum.

In the 1890's some big cities used to get paid for the right to pick up their garbage, because it was rendered for animal fats that were mixed with linseed oil to make machine lubricants. The rapid development of petroleum and mineral based specialty greases ended that, but that's how Lubriplate started out.

It could be done. Does not co-exist with veganism at all.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 01, 2024 12:32 PM (zdLoL)

234 With proper maintenance the average life expectancy of a wind turbine is 30 years about the same as a coal plant
Over the last 20 years since the birth of green energy the average cost of residential electricity has gone up 2,% per year.thete are currently over 70000 wind turbines in the USA
One fell down and caught on fire
Meh

Posted by: Paul banned at April 01, 2024 01:03 PM (NzM9O)

235 If there are 70000 wind turbines in USA and projected life is 30 years
We should expect on average 7 turbines to be being taken out of service EVERY day
Your mileage may vary

Posted by: Paul banned at April 01, 2024 01:10 PM (NzM9O)

236 In 2024 wind and solar will generate more power than coal.
Some wind turbines will fall

Posted by: Paul banned at April 01, 2024 01:18 PM (NzM9O)

237 Excellent article, Buck. I especially like the warning label blazoned across the front about slave/child labor.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 01, 2024 01:20 PM (w6EFb)

238 236 In 2024 wind and solar will generate more power than coal.
Some wind turbines will fall
Posted by: Paul banned at April 01, 2024 01:18 PM (NzM9O)

Now THAT'S funny.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 01, 2024 03:11 PM (8sMut)

239 BIRDS YES WINDTURBINES NO

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