Jon Stewart Defrauded New York By Severely Undervaluing Home, Depriving New York of the Property Taxes It Deserved

He screams a lot about Mar-a-Lago having a low estimated taxable value in Florida, but being represented as being worth a lot more than that in loan applications.

And yet Jon Stewart did the exact same thing -- and defrauded New York in exactly the same way Trump allegedly did.

He's not just terminally unfunny, he's also a scumbag ignorant idiot.

Jon Stewart benefited by 829% 'overvalue' of his NYC home even as he labels Trump's civil case 'not victimless'
By Social Links for Mary K. Jacob

Comedian Jon Stewart ranted this week that Donald Trump's civil real-estate case overvaluing his properties was "not victimless," yet when it came to his own home, Stewart benefited from a similar inflation.
On Monday night, Stewart, 61, unpacked Trump's $454 million appeal bond, calling out experts framing the former president's New York civil case as not causing direct harm to any individual.
"The Daily Show" host rolled a clip of CNN's Laura Coates interviewing "Shark Tank" star Kevin O'Leary, who commented that the ruling didn't "go over well" with the real estate industry that was now fretting over the possibility of becoming the next target.
Coates responds to O'Leary by highlighting that Trump was found liable for falsifying business records in the second degree, issuing false financial statements, insurance fraud and conspiracy, all due to asset inflation.
"Everything that you just listed off is done by every real estate developer everywhere on Earth in every city. This has never been prosecuted," O'Leary replied.
In response, Stewart asked: "How is he not this mad about overvaluations in the real world?"
"Because they are not victimless crimes," he said.

To further his point, Stewart argued that "money isn't infinite. A loan that goes to the liar doesn't go to someone who's giving a more honest evaluation. So the system becomes incentivized for corruption."
Stewart also contended that failing to declare a higher market value on a property, while paying taxes based on a lower assessed value, constitutes fraudulent behavior.
"The attorney general of New York knew that Trump's property values were inflated because when it came time to pay taxes, Trump undervalued the very same properties," Stewart added. "It was all part of a very specific real estate practice known as lying."
But it didn't take long for internet sleuths to look into Stewart's own property history, which shows his New York City penthouse sold for 829% more than its assessed value, records confirmed by The Post reveal.
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But according to 2013-2014 assessor records obtained by The Post, the property had the estimated market-value at only $1.882 million.
The actual assessor valuation was even lower, at $847,174.
Records also show that Stewart paid significantly lower property taxes, which were calculated based on that assessor valuation price -- precisely what he called Trump out for doing in his Monday monologue.

Because Jon Stewart is an unfunny old liberal high school girl, he reacted the way all aging liberal high school girls do on the internet, with extremely grating and shrieky sarcasm all sporting a shrill exclamation point.

@jonstewart
OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump! I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!

So many exclamation points.

You want a vespa and a messenger bag to go with all of those exclamation points?

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:51 PM

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1 Fine Jim 1/2 billion dollars

Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2024 02:52 PM (fwDg9)

2
ESPONJA!!!1!!1!!!

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 28, 2024 02:52 PM (bEb2S)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 02:53 PM (Zz0t1)

4 ESPONJA!!!1!!1!!!
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 28, 2024 02:52 PM (bEb2S)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 02:53 PM (Zz0t1)

5 Jon not Jim

Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2024 02:53 PM (fwDg9)

6 The assessed value is basically never considered the market value, so much so that jurisdictions with which I am familiar will have both values - one "assessed value," and another "estimated market value" publicly available in tax records. It's just so goodamned stupid to not understand that these are terms of art and not literal valuations.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 28, 2024 02:54 PM (ssz2a)

7 @jonstewart
OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump! I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at March 28, 2024 02:54 PM (Zz0t1)

8 OMG ! As if...

Posted by: Jon Clueless Stewart at March 28, 2024 02:54 PM (Akjoo)

9 Are they going to play this game?

Posted by: Jamaica at March 28, 2024 02:55 PM (IG7T0)

10 The Fckin NY AG screams Trump undervalued his property then the AG undervalued Mar-a-Lago

Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2024 02:55 PM (fwDg9)

11 The governess already declared that the law used against Trump wouldn’t be used against any other citizens.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2024 02:55 PM (YwyqV)

12 Jon Stewart's schtick was old before he was.

He would "go after both sides" but the way he went after the right was always vicious and accused them of being terrible human beings but when he went after the left, it was with an air of "come on, you're better than this!"

When he made fun of a Republican for saying something stupid, he demolished that strawman as though it were the actual best argument Republicans could come up with. When Democrats said something stupid, he would supply the stronger version of the argument the Democrat should have been making.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2024 02:55 PM (fKIdX)

13 @jonstewart
OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump! I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!

Most of what you've said here is an out and out lie and you f*cking know it.

You're an obnoxious prick that can't even use HIS REAL NAME.

F*cking hypocrite fraud asshole.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 02:56 PM (Zz0t1)

14 Projection from unfunny hacks is really pathetic. Suck it, Stewart.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at March 28, 2024 02:56 PM (XPM1I)

15 @jonstewart
OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump! I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!

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I don't understand. How is what Jon did dissimilar from what Trump is actively being prosecuted for?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 02:56 PM (GBKbO)

16 It's different because SHUTUP!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 28, 2024 02:56 PM (OeXGF)

17 Grab pussies? So he's going to grab himself??

Posted by: Victoria at March 28, 2024 02:57 PM (8pav7)

18
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I don't understand. How is what Jon did dissimilar from what Trump is actively being prosecuted for?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 02:56 PM (GBKbO)

Because he's liberal and said so.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

19 11 The governess already declared that the law used against Trump wouldn’t be used against any other citizens.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2024 02:55 PM (YwyqV)

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"Trust us. We won't abuse this power we gave ourselves again."

"Well, I'm satisfied."
-Idiot

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 02:57 PM (GBKbO)

20 The funny thing is that he couldn't even get the alleged crime right.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 28, 2024 02:57 PM (lTGtQ)

21 I don't understand. How is what Jon did dissimilar from what Trump is actively being prosecuted for?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 02:56 PM (GBKbO)

He's not being prosecuted, therefore what he did could not have been similar to what Trump did.

QED.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2024 02:57 PM (fKIdX)

22 18 Because he's liberal and said so.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

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Checks out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 02:57 PM (GBKbO)

23 I knew as soon as I saw Stewart’s clip, that the dipshit stepped on a rake. The Daily Show = TDS

Posted by: Tj at March 28, 2024 02:57 PM (HFytS)

24 20 The funny thing is that he couldn't even get the alleged crime right.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 28, 2024 02:57 PM (lTGtQ)

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He knows exactly what Trump is being prosecuted for.

It's just that he doesn't address the actual charge and then points at other things like it's an actual defense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 02:58 PM (GBKbO)

25 They are up to the S's so maybe they're just about done

Posted by: Jamaica at March 28, 2024 02:58 PM (IG7T0)

26
I don't understand. How is what Jon did dissimilar from what Trump is actively being prosecuted for?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero

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That's exactly what I was thinking. Imagine all the climate refugees from Venezuela who could have been housed with the tax revenue he failed to pay.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at March 28, 2024 02:59 PM (T3es0)

27 Just curious......How do you undervalue your house to the tax man?

I can protest my applied taxes and tell them what I think it's worth, then they tell me I'm wrong and apply what they feel it's worth and I pay taxes on that value.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:00 PM (Zz0t1)

28 NY will do nothing to him.

But never forget, Rush Limbaugh moved to FL in 1997, and NY hounded that dude FOREVER, trying to shake him down for additional tax money. He covered this on his radio show many times. Hell, they might still be going after his estate even now!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 28, 2024 03:00 PM (8sMut)

29 Just like the assault defamation case should have been immediately thrown out with a summary judgement because the plaintiff couldn’t provide a date the alleged assault occurred in addition to the law that allowed it to be filed being a form of expo facto, this ruling against Trump’s alleged fraudulent financial filings should also been dismissed with a summary judgement. The alleged parties harmed testified they were not only not harmed but they made money on these loans.

Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2024 03:00 PM (MNhXM)

30 26 That's exactly what I was thinking. Imagine all the climate refugees from Venezuela who could have been housed with the tax revenue he failed to pay.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at March 28, 2024 02:59 PM (T3es0)

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If the state of New York had collected that money, the government might have been able to make material progress fighting climate change.

Jon Stewart hates the planet.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:00 PM (GBKbO)

31 This is just the beginning. Trump's people will have plenty of time to unravel this case, by showing all the other people who have done EXACTLY THE SAME THING HE DID, BECAUSE NOBODY BEFORE NOW CONSIDERED IT A CRIME!

But sure, go ahead. Keep pushing this.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2024 03:00 PM (dGCAG)

32 Jon "Liebowitz" Stewart = Dildo test subject

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:00 PM (Zz0t1)

33
You're merely a butt boy for the left, asshat!

Tell us what is it like to remain in estrus permanently!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2024 03:01 PM (xG4kz)

34 Hiya

Posted by: JT at March 28, 2024 03:01 PM (T4tVD)

35 15 @jonstewart
OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump! I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!

Jon you forgot tell us to inject bleach, and Good people on both sides in Charlottesville

Posted by: Jon Clueless Stewart at March 28, 2024 03:01 PM (Akjoo)

36 31 This is just the beginning. Trump's people will have plenty of time to unravel this case, by showing all the other people who have done EXACTLY THE SAME THING HE DID, BECAUSE NOBODY BEFORE NOW CONSIDERED IT A CRIME!

But sure, go ahead. Keep pushing this.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2024 03:00 PM (dGCAG)

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"Going after Trump for this and no one else is fine because Trump is an attack on our democracy."
-DU, 58.3% probability

"You know...I feel like the government should go after everyone who did this."
-DU, 83.9% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (GBKbO)

37 Cooling off out thar......

Posted by: JT at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (T4tVD)

38 Sorry guys, but this dunk on this Jon Stewart twat is based on a misunderstanding of how NYC calculates tax values for properties.

The "assessed value" of a property is not the value of the property if sold on the open market. AV is a set percentage of "market value" based on certain objective criteria like tax class. It will always be much lower than the actual market value.

Even the "market value" part of the AV calculation isn't an actual market value in the sense of what the property is actually worth. It's a value assigned to the property by NYC dept of finance. The property owner has no role in this determination, although the owner can petition to lower it if he thinks it's out of whack with comparable properties.

Your Assessed Value is based on a percentage of your Market Value. This percentage is known as the Level of Assessment or Assessment Ratio. Your Assessment Ratio depends on your tax class.

I loathe Jon Stewart as much as the next guy. But the apparent low-balling of his property has nothing to do with any actions or decisions by him. It's a function of the odd way NYC calculates real estate taxes.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

39 Jon Stewart is too angry to be remotely funny. But oddly, as we keep hearing from these guys, taxes = charity. Yet when it comes time for Stewart to pay his "charity", he bobs and weaves in ways you and I could not get away with.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (8sMut)

40 He's crying out for James O'Keefe's new outfit! OMG!!

Posted by: Mishdog at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (atfiU)

41 Biden, Obama and Clinton
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A rapist, a corrupt shitbag, and a racist... sitting with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

(this would have worked any way you rolled them around)

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (6gUd4)

42 Stewart claims that he undervalued his property to evade taxes by ACTUALLY deceiving the government, whereas Trump overvalued his property WITHOUT deceiving the banks who did their own appraisals. Big difference!

Posted by: Fischer at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (QOhFz)

43 "all I need to do now is...grab pussies"

Sorry, that ship has sailed.

Posted by: Tom Perry at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (MX0bI)

44 38 I loathe Jon Stewart as much as the next guy. But the apparent low-balling of his property has nothing to do with any actions or decisions by him. It's a function of the odd way NYC calculates real estate taxes.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

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I guess we'll just have to see if he ever took out a loan and used his apartment as part of his valuation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (GBKbO)

45 Tim Pool broke the story (I watched the YT video clip - must watch).

Listening to Stewart caterwaul is grating in the extreme. And all the while he's spewing bullshit like he just got bad news from the doc.

He's not ignorant. He did the exact same thing. He knows what the score is, but he knows he's golden and won't pay a price because he's ... Jon Stewart. Watch the Tim Pool YT piece. It's good work.

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:03 PM (rj6Yv)

46 Jon Stewart is the kind of guy that creates joo hate

Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2024 03:03 PM (FQmDC)

47 11 The governess already declared that the law used against Trump wouldn’t be used against any other citizens.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2024 02:55 PM (YwyqV)
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That Law is in the books. At some point in the future, without any warning, some shrewd DA could indict someone, D or R, and then?

Posted by: Ciampino - tit for tat? at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (qfLjt)

48 Trump cheats at golf ? I think he means Obama

Posted by: It's me donna at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (Akjoo)

49 Nobody who doesn't want Trump ruined doesn't know all of this is a sham.

Anyone who says otherwise is a lying piece of shit.

There are plenty of lying pieces of shit who've revealed themselves over this.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (dGCAG)

50 47 That Law is in the books. At some point in the future, without any warning, some shrewd DA could indict someone, D or R, and then?
Posted by: Ciampino - tit for tat? at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (qfLjt)

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Also, since Letitia James is an idiot, she will use it again, no matter the orders from Hochul.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (GBKbO)

51 DID. JON. STEWART. JUST. SAY. PUSSY!??!

REEEEEEEEEEeeeeeenope we only care when a Republican does it.

Posted by: self righteous Karens at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (m2XKJ)

52 I loathe Jon Stewart as much as the next guy. But the apparent low-balling of his property has nothing to do with any actions or decisions by him. It's a function of the odd way NYC calculates real estate taxes.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

Exactly which why trying criminalize what Trump did is so farcical and obviously politically targeted

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (PQ4m2)

53 44 38 I loathe Jon Stewart as much as the next guy. But the apparent low-balling of his property has nothing to do with any actions or decisions by him. It's a function of the odd way NYC calculates real estate taxes.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

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I guess we'll just have to see if he ever took out a loan and used his apartment as part of his valuation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (GBKbO)
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If he did, then the bank would do exactly what they did in Trump's case: get their own appraisal of it. And that appraisal will have nothing to do with the tax value assessment. It will be based on comparable sales in the area.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (iFTx/)

54
You want a vespa and a messenger bag to go with all of those exclamation points?

I think he deserves a flag though... 🏳️‍🌈. Not that there is something right about that.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (RKVpM)

55 53 If he did, then the bank would do exactly what they did in Trump's case: get their own appraisal of it. And that appraisal will have nothing to do with the tax value assessment. It will be based on comparable sales in the area.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (iFTx/)

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Sounds like criminal behavior to me!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:05 PM (GBKbO)

56 Is Jon Stewart willing to be charged with the same crime if it strengthened the case against Trump?

No?

OK then. Dismiss it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 28, 2024 03:05 PM (Q4IgG)

57 As I always say, the Left are unable to identify or come up with logical comparisons.

Jon Stewart proves it once again.

Trump murdered that guy by shooting him 15 times. I murdered a guy and only shot him twice.

No comparison.

Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2024 03:05 PM (MNhXM)

58 "The attorney general of New York knew that Trump's property values were inflated because when it came time to pay taxes, Trump undervalued the very same properties," Stewart added. "It was all part of a very specific real estate practice known as lying."
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No. When it comes time to pay taxes, you pay according to the assessor's, well, assessment of the value of the property and then pay taxes at the legally prescribed rate based on that assessment. You don't estimate your property's value when you pay taxes. The exception is if you think the assessor got it wrong and assessed your property at over market value - then you can contest the assessment.

But either way, you pay on the assessment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:06 PM (6bTRc)

59 Only Lefties are allowed to bend or break the law.

Stewart is asshoe.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2024 03:07 PM (emxO0)

60 58 No. When it comes time to pay taxes, you pay according to the assessor's, well, assessment of the value of the property and then pay taxes at the legally prescribed rate based on that assessment. You don't estimate your property's value when you pay taxes. The exception is if you think the assessor got it wrong and assessed your property at over market value - then you can contest the assessment.

But either way, you pay on the assessment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:06 PM (6bTRc)

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Jon Stewart is trying to convince his audience that governments just take people's word at the valuation of property when it comes to property tax collection?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:07 PM (GBKbO)

61 Did Trump do *anything* Stewart listed?

My favorite thing about the Left this last 20 years is how they made Republican opposition to Obama, which was political, into something allegedly "personal" (racism) and then did the exact same thing with their own political opposition to Trump. They act like it's some moral high ground.

All Trump has to do to get the Left to "revere" him is chop up live babies, free criminals, and open the border.

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:07 PM (6gUd4)

62 I loathe Jon Stewart as much as the next guy. But the apparent low-balling of his property has nothing to do with any actions or decisions by him. It's a function of the odd way NYC calculates real estate taxes.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

Sorry but Jon Stewart should be cheerfully voluntarily paying more money to his favorite charity - the government - even so. Unless he's a hypocrite.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 28, 2024 03:07 PM (8sMut)

63 Trump said, as a billionaire, he could likely grab women by the pussy and they'd let him because he's a billionaire.

1. He's not wrong.
2. He never said he did it and hasn't been accused of doing such a thing by anyone credible.

Jon Stewart is a self-loathing Jew asshole.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

64 Typical response, though: change the subject!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2024 03:08 PM (emxO0)

65 I would hip check Jon Stewart in front of a bus or train. I would pay good money to have five minutes alone with this piece of shit.

Posted by: JROD at March 28, 2024 03:08 PM (IlL6s)

66 62 Sorry but Jon Stewart should be cheerfully voluntarily paying more money to his favorite charity - the government - even so. Unless he's a hypocrite.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 28, 2024 03:07 PM (8sMut)

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No, he's not a hypocrite. He's a fraudster who should be in jail for denying the government the money it deserves.

Otherwise, single mothers won't be able to get abortions and NYC will be underwater in 12 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:08 PM (GBKbO)

67 Sorry but Jon Stewart should be cheerfully voluntarily paying more money to his favorite charity - the government - even so. Unless he's a hypocrite.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 28, 2024 03:07 PM (8sMut)

MATT DAMON: The government can tax me all it wants.

Also MATT DAMON: I do not write a check for more than the government says I owe, ever.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

68 Oh, and Jon Stewart has been to the island.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2024 03:08 PM (dGCAG)

69 But according to 2013-2014 assessor records obtained by The Post, the property had the estimated market-value at only $1.882 million.

The actual assessor valuation was even lower, at $847,174.
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Which, unless he bribed the assessor, isn't Stewart's fault. Nobody on earth is going to ring the assessor and say, "hey, I think you assessed the basis of my annual liability way too low." That's on the assessor, unless there was something else going on.

I will assure you that Stewart's lenders - just like Trump's lenders - did their own assessment before writing a loan. If there was no loan (he paid cash), you can be sure he had a formal appraisal done or at least figured that the price wasn't too far out of bounds. Ditto for whoever bought the property.

All of which underscores just how ludicrous this persecution of Trump is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:09 PM (6bTRc)

70 Wait a minute. Was Trump's "crime" that he used the assessed valuation of his property rather than its market value? If that's the case, my county is committing fraud (against itself?) by applying millage at assessed value. And I'm a co-conspirator.

Seriously, I may be reading all this wrong. I am just a caveman accountant, after all.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 28, 2024 03:09 PM (wzAuc)

71
Yet when it comes time for Stewart to pay his "charity", he bobs and weaves in ways you and I could not get away with.

Stewart withheld his "charity" from the poors?!!
How could this be?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2024 03:09 PM (xG4kz)

72 Why, it is as though Progressives/Liberals/Left/Woke/Democrats are fueled by their own hypocrisy. Without it, they have nothing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2024 03:10 PM (XeU6L)

73 "Because they are not victimless crimes," he said.
To further his point, Stewart argued that "money isn't infinite. A loan that goes to the liar doesn't go to someone who's giving a more honest evaluation. So the system becomes incentivized for corruption."

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This is STUPID, the statement, he no doubt feels is smart.. is in fact ignorant.

Posted by: Inogame at March 28, 2024 03:10 PM (53oGX)

74 69 Which, unless he bribed the assessor, isn't Stewart's fault. Nobody on earth is going to ring the assessor and say, "hey, I think you assessed the basis of my annual liability way too low." That's on the assessor, unless there was something else going on.

I will assure you that Stewart's lenders - just like Trump's lenders - did their own assessment before writing a loan. If there was no loan (he paid cash), you can be sure he had a formal appraisal done or at least figured that the price wasn't too far out of bounds. Ditto for whoever bought the property.

All of which underscores just how ludicrous this persecution of Trump is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:09 PM (6bTRc)

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As a worshiper of government, is it not Jon Stewart's responsibility to give it everything he can in order to ensure that it can fight climate change?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

75 @jonstewart
OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump! I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!
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I don't revere men, Jon. Men aren't worthy of reverence.

Some men are worthy of respect. You haven't earned that. You could work toward earning, if you want to, by reassessing (if you'll pardon the pun) your own position and attitudes based on this information and the embarrassment it has caused you.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:10 PM (6bTRc)

76 Tax assessed value is seperate from market value.

I was quite familer with the values in this one subdivision. Initial sale price was $20/lot, $25k for corner lots. These were 1 acre lots.
In the Clinton years the bottom fell out and they were going $3k/lot.
Then things got much better and they were asking up to $50k/lot.

...then it got much much worse... half the subdivision was over run with lava. This was Leilani Estates in Hawaii, where the valcano erupted and covered a good part of that east side of the island.

When the flow stopped a relative who lived upload of the eruption managed to sell for what he bought in at when the low was $3k/lot. And his land was unaffected by lava or gas.

You can imagine the fluctuation and appeals on tax assessed values.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 28, 2024 03:10 PM (cOq4q)

77 73 "Because they are not victimless crimes," he said.
To further his point, Stewart argued that "money isn't infinite. A loan that goes to the liar doesn't go to someone who's giving a more honest evaluation. So the system becomes incentivized for corruption."

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This is STUPID, the statement, he no doubt feels is smart.. is in fact ignorant.
Posted by: Inogame at March 28, 2024 03:10 PM (53oGX)

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"We're not victims. We'd love to do business with Trump again."
-The Victims, in court

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

78 They act as if the bank Trump attempted a loan from had no opportunity to research the collateral property and was forced to take Trump at his word on the value.

He said it was worth x. The BANK said it was worth y, then loaned based on THEIR determination of worth.

This entire argument is f*cking retarded.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

79 Clown nose off, clown nose on.

He’s a pitical pundit when hurling insults and defaming political foes, but he’s a comedian when accepting return fire.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2024 03:11 PM (emxO0)

80 As a worshiper of government, is it not Jon Stewart's responsibility to give it everything he can in order to ensure that it can fight climate change?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:10 PM (GBKbO)
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It's odd, but it never seems to work that way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:11 PM (6bTRc)

81 55 53 If he did, then the bank would do exactly what they did in Trump's case: get their own appraisal of it. And that appraisal will have nothing to do with the tax value assessment. It will be based on comparable sales in the area.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (iFTx/)

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Sounds like criminal behavior to me!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:05 PM (GBKbO)
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Or at least worthy of a big fine! I've been involved representing clients in maybe fifty NYC real estate appraisals/financings. This is how it goes:

1. Owner wants to borrow money.
2. Bank wants to lend owner money.
3. Owner has real estate as collateral. Pulls value from ass.
4. Bank works out approximate amount of loan with only tangential regard to value of collateral.
5. Owner agrees to term sheet with that loan amount.
6. Only then does the property get appraised by bank.
7. Lo and behold, the bank's appraiser appraises the property at just the right amount to justify the loan!

It's a game played by both sides that only gets tested in the tiny fraction of cases where the property is seized and sold to pay the loan.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

82 80 As a worshiper of government, is it not Jon Stewart's responsibility to give it everything he can in order to ensure that it can fight climate change?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:10 PM (GBKbO)
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It's odd, but it never seems to work that way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:11 PM (6bTRc)

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Isn't keeping too much of his money greed?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:11 PM (GBKbO)

83 Jon Stewart is revolting.
He makes my skin crawl.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 28, 2024 03:11 PM (NpAcC)

84 "Show me the MAGA and I will find a crime."

Posted by: Letitia "Lavrenti" James at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (vtRd1)

85 So many exclamation points.

You want a vespa and a messenger bag to go with all of those exclamation points?

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He wants a tube of K-Y jelly and a butt plug instead. That's more his style.

Posted by: Roy at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (z+ik4)

86 Trump being worth five Billion dollars, give or take, more this week than last week is darn near miraculous.

They tried to tie up all his cash and now he's potentially got twice as much or more.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (z+89e)

87 A loan that goes to the liar doesn't go to someone who's giving a more honest evaluation. So the system becomes incentivized for corruption
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HUH???

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (6gUd4)

88 Yea, assessed value seldom, if ever = market value.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (Q4IgG)

89 Stewart withheld his "charity" from the poors?!!
How could this be?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2024 03:09 PM (xG4kz)

I simply deny them my essence Mandrake...

Posted by: zombie Gen. Jack Ripper at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (TTAGa)

90 Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (iFTx/

I believe his subsequent purchase of another apartment included the true valuation or over evaluation of the prior apartment which he gladly accepted the lower evaluation for tax purposes,

As you said, normal operating procedure just like it was for Trump and all the other Real Estate moguls in NYC.

Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (MNhXM)

91 87 A loan that goes to the liar doesn't go to someone who's giving a more honest evaluation. So the system becomes incentivized for corruption
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HUH???
Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (6gUd4)

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It's almost like he's lying about how the process worked.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:13 PM (GBKbO)

92 Jon Stewart is revolting.
He makes my skin crawl.

Truth is, he's not as gratingly smug as that affirmative action asshat Trevor Noah.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 28, 2024 03:13 PM (vtRd1)

93 They tried to tie up all his cash and now he's potentially got twice as much or more.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (z+89e)

I was informed right here on this site that Trump was an idiot for setting up TruthSocial and not doing something smart like buying Twitter.

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:13 PM (6gUd4)

94 Whether or not Stewart intentionally manipulated the assessment value is irrelevant - this is simply Alinsky #4 : Make them live up to their own rules.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2024 03:13 PM (emxO0)

95
HUH???
Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (6gUd4)

Forget it. He's rolling.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:13 PM (Zz0t1)

96 @jonstewart
OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump! I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!

Everything that guy just said is bullshit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

97 If he did, then the bank would do exactly what they did in Trump's case: get their own appraisal of it. And that appraisal will have nothing to do with the tax value assessment. It will be based on comparable sales in the area.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:04 PM (iFTx/)

And when "Judge" Erdogon valued Mar-a-Largo at $18M, where did he get that figure?

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:14 PM (rj6Yv)

98 97 And when "Judge" Erdogon valued Mar-a-Largo at $18M, where did he get that figure?
Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:14 PM (rj6Yv)

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Fairies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:14 PM (GBKbO)

99 It's a game played by both sides that only gets tested in the tiny fraction of cases where the property is seized and sold to pay the loan.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
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Yup, but the game is played by all players. The seller asks for a certain price for a property. The borrower asks to borrow money based on his assessment of the property's value. The bank offers to lend money based on its assessment of the property's value. If they all agree on value and terms, the transaction happens. None of it has anything to do with taxes, at least not property taxes. The county's assessor determines *his* value of the property for tax purposes, and the owner can contest it if desired.

This entire case has been utterly preposterous. The bank agreed with Trump's assessment of the property's value. If they didn't, the loan would never have been written.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:15 PM (6bTRc)

100 When people like Stewart or Lemon try to make the jump to new media and pull a Wile E. Coyote, it really highlights the way slick production value masked lack of talent in old media. These people were just retards. But CNN and Comedy Central and BMW and Ralph Lauren told us that these are smart people who aspirational people should take at face value.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2024 03:15 PM (0FoWg)

101 I am interested in his refi paperwork.

Posted by: DOYLE at March 28, 2024 03:15 PM (Z8Yh2)

102 -----------------------

He wants a tube of K-Y jelly and a butt plug instead. That's more his style.
Posted by: Roy at March 28, 2024 03:12 PM (z+ik4)

Alex Jones interviews controversial rabbi, calls him "Mr. Buttplug."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

103 Stewart withheld his "charity" from the poors?!!
How could this be?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
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Sometimes, charity lies in public service.

Posted by: Democrat at March 28, 2024 03:15 PM (XeU6L)

104 Arguing with no-nothing leftists and never-Trumpers (BIRM) on this point is useless. Explaining how what he did was standard practice, that banks always apply due diligence to all the numbers in the application, that government tax assessors set the value for property tax, cannot penetrate the wall they use to protect their brain from breaking by having to admit that Trump did nothing wrong and that their side is the side that is the fascist baddies.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 28, 2024 03:15 PM (RSqHn)

105 99 This entire case has been utterly preposterous. The bank agreed with Trump's assessment of the property's value. If they didn't, the loan would never have been written.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:15 PM (6bTRc)

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The government has to protect people who were never harmed from harm they never received.

Now, James needs to prosecute everyone else who did this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

106 To further his point, Stewart argued that "money isn't infinite. A loan that goes to the liar doesn't go to someone who's giving a more honest evaluation. So the system becomes incentivized for corruption."
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Lending is fraught with peril on all sides, which is why all parties engage in research. No bank takes a borrow's word for it. The bank validates it, and makes its own assessment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (6bTRc)

107 For whatever reason here in my part of rural NE Texas the appraisals are all over priced. They had my house appraised at $425,000 last year. I might be able to get $375,000 for it on a good day. And they refuse to work with me on anything.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (QNSds)

108
I've bought a number of properties in my life and when asked by the bank my assessment of their value when applying for a mortgage I've always put down a number higher then what I've paid. Because I either know I got a good deal or I'll make it worth that number in six months time.

But the left wants 'new rules' to take away our stuff.

Some famous communist said something about, 'spreading the wealth around'. I forget his name but seem to recall his autobiography mentioned he was born in Kenya and his birth certificate is the shakiest document in the history of Photoshop.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (RKVpM)

109 JS was selling to a friend who apparently wanted to take a loss (-26%) a year later and DJT was taking out a loan, so this is not Apple2Apple.
I get everything else but that distinction seems to be glossed over in the exuberant schadenfreude/revenge fantasy.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (NUIam)

110 104 Arguing with no-nothing leftists and never-Trumpers (BIRM) on this point is useless. Explaining how what he did was standard practice, that banks always apply due diligence to all the numbers in the application, that government tax assessors set the value for property tax, cannot penetrate the wall they use to protect their brain from breaking by having to admit that Trump did nothing wrong and that their side is the side that is the fascist baddies.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 28, 2024 03:15 PM (RSqHn)

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"But, the victims themselves said they weren't victims and would do business with Trump again."

"They don't realize that they were defrauded."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

111 The government has to protect people who were never harmed from harm they never received.

Now, James needs to prosecute everyone else who did this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (GBKbO)
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Which is likely every property owner in her jurisdiction.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (6bTRc)

112 =======

Fairies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:14 PM (GBKbO)

That's TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY to you, mister!

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

113 Until this very day I did not realize that a bank was bound to lend based on the applicant's estimate of the value of his collateral.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (vtRd1)

114 63 Trump said, as a billionaire, he could likely grab women by the pussy and they'd let him because he's a billionaire.

1. He's not wrong.
2. He never said he did it and hasn't been accused of doing such a thing by anyone credible.

Jon Stewart is a self-loathing Jew asshole.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

Trumps mistake was not also including penis grabbing.. the Transphobic bigot!

Posted by: Inogame at March 28, 2024 03:17 PM (53oGX)

115 Stewart is making the standard buffoonish Marxist argument here in his economically illiterate rant about "money is not infinite!" - the 'people' are innocent dupes or victims of the capitalist running dogs that are raping the economic landscape, you see!

He's never heard of a market economy or understands that he lives in one right now just by being in the entertainment world - his lawyers and assistance do the hard work of thinking for Jon - this guy would drown looking up at the rain if he didn't have handlers.

Posted by: Boswell at March 28, 2024 03:17 PM (K+UlC)

116 Do you ever stop to wonder how the Left takes the moral high ground on any matter?

(hint: it's theft)

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:17 PM (6gUd4)

117 Jon who? Oh, that washed up asshole.

Posted by: wth at March 28, 2024 03:17 PM (v0R5T)

118 I don’t think people here are saying Jon Stewart did anything wrong. They are saying Trump was playing the same real estate system but just on a different scale.

Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2024 03:17 PM (MNhXM)

119 I was informed right here on this site that Trump was an idiot for setting up TruthSocial and not doing something smart like buying Twitter.
Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:13 PM (6gUd4)

The funniest angle for me is that he can use the shares as collateral to take loans and then pay no income taxes on the loans. The value? well the judge would have to rule that the stock exchange is not a valid measure of value.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 28, 2024 03:18 PM (z+89e)

120 So, if Stewart's argument has purchase, then someone did lose out on a loan that they would have otherwise gotten.

Anyone come forward with that charge?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

121 this guy would drown looking up at the rain if he didn't have handlers.

Posted by: Boswell at March 28, 2024

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Definitely.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2024 03:18 PM (0FoWg)

122 What?

In what jurisdiction does ANYONE get to value THEIR OWN real estate for property tax purposes???

Assessors value the property and tell you what it's gonna be. Maybe you file a tax protest. Maybe you win / maybe you lose / maybe you compromise.

But at the end of the day the County/State AGREES to a valuation that it then taxes you on. Nobody is "depriving" the state of anything.

Posted by: Guvnah at March 28, 2024 03:18 PM (h9uRV)

123 Sad!

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 28, 2024 03:18 PM (KiBMU)

124 Women let Trump grab them by the pussy in reliance on Trump's own false estimate of his net worth.

So they were defrauded!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 28, 2024 03:18 PM (vtRd1)

125 Jon is most certainly the awfulest of AWFLs.
Orange Man Bad. Rheeeee.
Tiresome.
Sad.
Bigly.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at March 28, 2024 03:18 PM (gxokI)

126 Money isn't infinite, send more to Ukraine!!!

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:19 PM (6gUd4)

127 OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump! I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!

It didn't take much to force Stewart to admit Trump was prosecuted for everything BUT the alleged crime of valuing his property above the tax assessment value.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 28, 2024 03:19 PM (Odg76)

128
I loathe Jon Stewart as much as the next guy. But the apparent low-balling of his property has nothing to do with any actions or decisions by him. It's a function of the odd way NYC calculates real estate taxes.
Posted by: Elric Blade

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I know what you mean, but now that it's been exposed, maybe Mr. Virtue will step up and mitigate his entirely unwitting theft of tax revenue and maybe even pay interest? Will no one think of the children?

And as others have pointed out, that's exactly what happened to Trump. Bank loaned him money based on THEIR assessment of his property value, not his.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at March 28, 2024 03:19 PM (I87yH)

129 It's a game played by both sides that only gets tested in the tiny fraction of cases where the property is seized and sold to pay the loan.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

In other words, commerce.

So here you have a government, selectively enforcing a rule, whether it's hard wired law or not, because of political considerations.

We used to call that something. There was a word for that. Seems to escape me right now. But for some strange reason I have the urge to occupy the Sudetenland.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2024 03:19 PM (dGCAG)

130 69 But according to 2013-2014 assessor records obtained by The Post, the property had the estimated market-value at only $1.882 million.

The actual assessor valuation was even lower, at $847,174.
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Which, unless he bribed the assessor, isn't Stewart's fault. Nobody on earth is going to ring the assessor and say, "hey, I think you assessed the basis of my annual liability way too low." That's on the assessor, unless there was something else going on.

I will assure you that Stewart's lenders - just like Trump's lenders - did their own assessment before writing a loan. If there was no loan (he paid cash), you can be sure he had a formal appraisal done or at least figured that the price wasn't too far out of bounds. Ditto for whoever bought the property.

All of which underscores just how ludicrous this persecution of Trump is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:09 PM (6bTRc)

Honestly, many jurisdictions are only allowed to reassess properties a certain % each assessment period. There are caps, they can be effected by owners age, property sale during assessment period, a whole host of matters that cause a break from the assessment.

But Orange man bad..

Posted by: Inogame at March 28, 2024 03:19 PM (53oGX)

131 Posted by: Skunky Choom at March 28, 2024 03:16 PM (NUIam)

The comparison is about the real estate system apples.

Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2024 03:20 PM (MNhXM)

132 The LOL and infuriating thing is the Leftist talking point that what Trump was doing was "distorting the market".

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 28, 2024 03:20 PM (2fIO4)

133 Ryan Long reminds me of Stewart. Funny guys who are also dull normals. It's anomalous.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2024 03:20 PM (0FoWg)

134
In what jurisdiction does ANYONE get to value THEIR OWN real estate for property tax purposes???
...
at the end of the day the County/State AGREES to a valuation that it then taxes you on. Nobody is "depriving" the state of anything.
Posted by: Guvnah

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We know that. But that's also how bank loans work.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at March 28, 2024 03:21 PM (T3es0)

135 I don’t think people here are saying Jon Stewart did anything wrong. They are saying Trump was playing the same real estate system but just on a different scale.
Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2024 03:17 PM (MNhXM)
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It's not even "playing the system," it's how the system works in virtually every case. It's not a dodge or a scheme, it's business as usual. Every property has up to four simultaneous values:
1. The owner's valuation
2. The buyer's (borrower's) valuation
3. The lender's valuation
4. The tax man's valuation

When a property is sold, parties 1-3 must come to an agreement. When a property is refinanced, parties 1 and 3 must come to an agreement. Party 4 is independent of the rest, but Party 1 can contest (usually unsuccessfully) Party 4's assessment in the event that Party 1 finds the assessment unreasonably high.

That's it. That's the entire system, and nobody has to "play" it. It's just the way it works every day, and has for decades if not centuries.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:21 PM (6bTRc)

136 You want a vespa and a messenger bag AND A PENIS to go with all of those exclamation points?

Posted by: wth at March 28, 2024 03:21 PM (v0R5T)

137 A Delta flight from Portland to New York allegedly just lost an engine and had to land in Spokane.

It's BidenTravel!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (YAtuc)

138 OT but per the previous thread SBF’s girlfriend is a Dead Ringer for Michael Emerson ( Mr. Finch) in Person of Interest…

Posted by: tubal at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (PCK5/)

139 135 That's it. That's the entire system, and nobody has to "play" it. It's just the way it works every day, and has for decades if not centuries.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:21 PM (6bTRc)

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Playing it would be using other steps. Like bribes or influence.

I wonder if Stewart used his celebrity to save himself a bunch of money on his property taxes...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (GBKbO)

140 If Stewart has ever touched his crotch, he has most definitely grabbed at least one pussy.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (KbCG3)

141
Second look a Trevor Noah?

Posted by: Auspex at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (j4U/Z)

142 137 A Delta flight from Portland to New York allegedly just lost an engine and had to land in Spokane.

It's BidenTravel!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (YAtuc)

Pretty careless on Delta’s part…

Posted by: tubal at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (PCK5/)

143 A significant ballot/election integrity victory:

A panel of the 3rd CCA has UPHELD a new PA law that requires "dated verified signatures" on all absentee ballots this year.

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (NLIak)

144 Shoulda stayed retired Johhny.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 28, 2024 03:23 PM (OeXGF)

145 A Delta flight from Portland to New York allegedly just lost an engine and had to land in Spokane.

It's BidenTravel!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (YAtuc

Diversity is our strength.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)

146 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:21 PM (6bTRc)

Man that was a big semantic trigger for you.

Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2024 03:23 PM (MNhXM)

147 OT but per the previous thread SBF’s girlfriend is a Dead Ringer for Michael Emerson ( Mr. Finch) in Person of Interest…
Posted by: tubal at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (PCK5/)
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Maybe the real "Mr. Finch" is the power behind SBF...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 28, 2024 03:23 PM (7fElN)

148 >>>So, if Stewart's argument has purchase, then someone did lose out on a loan that they would have otherwise gotten.

It's the finite pie argument that lefties who took dance and theater in college make - there is only so much economic pie in the world, according to ignoramuses like Jon here, and Trumpy rapist capitalist are keeping it out of the proletariats' hands by all their greed!

It's the age old argument of the irresponsible and the unproductive leeches of the world - and Jon is one of those for sure.

Posted by: Boswell at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM (K+UlC)

149 141
Second look a Trevor Noah?
Posted by: Auspex at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (j4U/Z)

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I finally saw something with that guy in it. He was on an episode of Would I Lie to You?

Not terribly funny. Not terribly unfunny. Meh. His impression of Nelson Mandela was decent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM (GBKbO)

150 Man that was a big semantic trigger for you.
Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2024 03:23 PM (MNhXM)
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Apparently

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM (6bTRc)

151 Just checked. Zillow says my house is worth 45% more than the assessed value. Good thing I don't live in Tish's jurisdiction or I'd be facing a $500M judgement.

Posted by: Montec at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM (hxe/1)

152 I don’t think people here are saying Jon Stewart did anything wrong. They are saying Trump was playing the same real estate system but just on a different scale.
Posted by: polynikes at March 28, 2024 03:17 PM (MNhXM)

Remember, in the immediate aftermath of the House impeachment of Clinton, Larry Flint came forward and said he would pay good money for anyone with evidence of House members who were guilty of sex outside of their marriages?

He found some too.

If the Trump people are smart, that's what this is. Find the others who have benefitted from a loose set of standards, regarding loans and collateral and whatever the hell else one wants to call this.

Sorry Jon, you were first. Others to follow...

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM (dGCAG)

153 I'll make the obvious point: assessed valuation != real valuation. Plus the person making the assessed valuation is not the owner, but rather the local assessor.

Last, I don't care if Trump claimed his properties were worth $6.24 x 10^23, the lender makes his OWN determination of their value. It's called "due diligence."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM (YqDXo)

154 The main problem in America is very few people know how things work. You would think mortgages and taxes would be fully understood. These are not hard concepts.

Media could debunk the whole case in a 12 minute segment but don't. To the detriment of the Country.

Hate the media more.

Posted by: DOYLE at March 28, 2024 03:25 PM (Z8Yh2)

155 I keep getting Jon Stewart mixed up with Keith Olberman.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 28, 2024 03:25 PM (O+pWw)

156
A Delta flight from Portland to New York allegedly just lost an engine and had to land in Spokane.

Losing a plane engine is like election fraud in this country. Never happens.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 28, 2024 03:25 PM (RKVpM)

157 Second look a Trevor Noah?
Posted by: Auspex at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (j4U/Z)

No.

If you've ever blacked out while staring down at a toilet full of blood, that moment when you realize that you literally shit your guts out is still funnier than Trevor Noah.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2024 03:25 PM (0FoWg)

158 This is Stewart's equivalent of: clown nose on. Clown nose off.

"Fraud" is "Fraud." What he is really trying to say is:mine was much less. So move along. Plus the BS of hush payments, etc.

And Trump's fraud had no victims. If anything, the "victims came back and asked to be frauded agai.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 28, 2024 03:25 PM (JkCto)

159 We used to call that something. There was a word for that. Seems to escape me right now. But for some strange reason I have the urge

Incontinence?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at March 28, 2024 03:25 PM (8zt8L)

160 A Delta flight from Portland to New York allegedly just lost an engine and had to land in Spokane.

Seattle to New York, actually, due to an "oil issue".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2024 03:25 PM (YAtuc)

161 @marlene4719 Andrea Mitchell just showed President Biden descending the stairs of the plane in NYC and she actually said he got down the stairs faster than usual. I can’t believe I heard this.

]What a fu*****A hole!! Actually, I am surprised she didn't say that Biden got down without falling!!

The old bat shits on Biden’s age all the time. I cannot watch her show, she makes me manic with her herky-jerky delivery, not to mention how much she clearly hates Biden. RETIRE, dammit.

She has literally no business making comments such as that. it would be like Limbaugh commenting on how mean people are or Trump giving lectures on honestly.

She’s on a roll bashing dems today! She made an off hand comment about Bill Clinton and his marriage that I did not appreciate! The reporter thankfully changed the subject! Why does msnbc keep her around??

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (JCZqz)

162 A Delta flight from Portland to New York allegedly just lost an engine and had to land in Spokane.

___

Was the plane addresses by the proper pronoun when it landed?

Posted by: Montec at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (hxe/1)

163 > I loathe Jon Stewart as much as the next guy. But the apparent low-balling of his property has nothing to do with any actions or decisions by him. It's a function of the odd way NYC calculates real estate taxes.

FL has a max percentage cap a property can go up each year. That's one big reason Mar A Lago's tax valuation is so much lower than its market value.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (Odg76)

164 >>> And when "Judge" Erdogon valued Mar-a-Largo at $18M, where did he get that figure?
Posted by: mrp

IANAL - In Team Trump's appeal then should include an independent arguement that the 'Judge' is readily apparant to an an objective layman, in a word, a dolt and should have his mental capabilities tested and put into an adult assisted care facility.
- or -
Uses his position to deprive persons (unlikely Trump alone) of their civil rights and prosecited under Federal laws which specifically state that judges can be prosecuted for violation civil rights under cover of law.

The Judge should spend the rest of his life wearing a hospital gown in an institution, mental or prison, both work.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (cOq4q)

165 Again it shows how clean Trump is that they had to prosecute him on THIS nonsense.

Remember how they insisted for YEARS that he cheated on his taxes? Why didn't that Make Stewart's laundry list? Must have slipped his mind....

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (6gUd4)

166 The assessed value is basically never considered the market value, so much so that jurisdictions with which I am familiar will have both values - one "assessed value," and another "estimated market value" publicly available in tax records. It's just so goodamned stupid to not understand that these are terms of art and not literal valuations.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 28, 2024 02:54 PM (ssz2a)
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Sorry, just saw this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (YqDXo)

167 161 She’s on a roll bashing dems today! She made an off hand comment about Bill Clinton and his marriage that I did not appreciate! The reporter thankfully changed the subject! Why does msnbc keep her around??
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (JCZqz)

=======

"Off hand comment about an obviously loveless marriage" = "bashing dems".

Sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO)

168 Last, I don't care if Trump claimed his properties were worth $6.24 x 10^23, the lender makes his OWN determination of their value. It's called "due diligence."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM (YqDXo)

That reminds me ... does anyone have a recipe for a chicken mole?

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (rj6Yv)

169 Speaker Johnson to Deliver Impeachment Articles Against Mayorkas to Senate on April 10

Posted by: SMOD at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (RHGPo)

170 Who?

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (oa8tW)

171 If you've ever blacked out while staring down at a toilet full of blood, that moment when you realize that you literally shit your guts out

You been watching me?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (8zt8L)

172 153 I'll make the obvious point: assessed valuation != real valuation. Plus the person making the assessed valuation is not the owner, but rather the local assessor.

Last, I don't care if Trump claimed his properties were worth $6.24 x 10^23, the lender makes his OWN determination of their value. It's called "due diligence."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM (YqDXo)

When I sold my previous house, I got something like $20K over asking.

Which I was thrilled with but also knew could be a completely false number if the lender disagreed. Thankfully they didn't. But until they give that number, nothin' means nothin'.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (KbCG3)

173 This is frightening-

Mike Davis
@mrddmia

California Judge Yvette Roland--handpicked by the Democrat House speaker--is disbarring constitutional attorney John Eastman for making legal arguments with which she disagreed.

Roland's a donor to Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, DNC, ActBlue, and other Democrats.

https://tinyurl.com/57k59zdx

Posted by: redridinghood at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (NpAcC)

174 169 Speaker Johnson to Deliver Impeachment Articles Against Mayorkas to Senate on April 10
Posted by: SMOD at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (RHGPo)

=======

"Good. The Senate bathroom was running low on toilet paper."
-Schumer

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (GBKbO)

175 A Delta flight from Portland to New York allegedly just lost an engine and had to land in Spokane.

It's BidenTravel!
Posted by: The ARC of History!
......

Don't worry. Mayo Pete is all over it like a fly on his husbands butt.

Posted by: wth at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (v0R5T)

176 Not terribly unfunny.

-------

I didn't see what you saw, but that's not the Trevor I know. That Trevor is like comedic cancer.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (0FoWg)

177 168 Last, I don't care if Trump claimed his properties were worth $6.24 x 10^23, the lender makes his OWN determination of their value. It's called "due diligence."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM (YqDXo)

That reminds me ... does anyone have a recipe for a chicken mole?
Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (rj6Yv)

Chicken mole can out of a lab in Wuhan I think…

Posted by: tubal at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (PCK5/)

178 I loathe Jon Stewart as much as the next guy. But the apparent low-balling of his property has nothing to do with any actions or decisions by him. It's a function of the odd way NYC calculates real estate taxes.
Posted by: Elric Blade

I agree with your analysis. But if Stewart really believes "pay your fair share" he'd petition NYC to "up assess" his property.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (JkCto)

179 You know, the "cheats at golf" barb hurts the worst. Wow. Big ouchie.

What a twat this idiot is.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (XPM1I)

180 178
I agree with your analysis. But if Stewart really believes "pay your fair share" he'd petition NYC to "up assess" his property.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (JkCto)

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I bet he thinks that the government should raise taxes on the rich to fight climate change.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (GBKbO)

181 California Judge Yvette Roland--handpicked by the Democrat House speaker--is disbarring constitutional attorney John Eastman for making legal arguments with which she disagreed.

Start disbarring left-wing lawyers in red states.

It's the only language they understand.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (YAtuc)

182 And when "Judge" Erdogon valued Mar-a-Largo at $18M, where did he get that figure?
Posted by: mrp
_______________

His proctologist extracted it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (YqDXo)

183 You want a vespa and a messenger bag to go with all of those exclamation points?

Pro Tip: All the cool kids use J. Crew Messenger bags, not some sus rando messenger bag.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 28, 2024 03:29 PM (a3Q+t)

184 Remember how they insisted for YEARS that he cheated on his taxes? Why didn't that Make Stewart's laundry list? Must have slipped his mind....
Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (6gUd4)
++++
Because the "expose" of that Rachel Maddow did turned out to be for her what opening Al Capon'e vault was for Jerry Rivers?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:29 PM (6bTRc)

185 DJG,

What was that quote again from the guy being interviewed for a position when he said something about being impressed with his own intellect?

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:29 PM (rj6Yv)

186
My house is assessed at about 10% of its actual value. If I had to pay based on its actual value I would be screwed so bad.

Hello $90,000 a year tax bill.

Every municipality makes their own rules. Some make sense. Not many.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 28, 2024 03:29 PM (RKVpM)

187 184 Because the "expose" of that Rachel Maddow did turned out to be for her what opening Al Capon'e vault was for Jerry Rivers?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:29 PM (6bTRc)

=======

What does debunking of a narrative have to do with continuing the narrative?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:29 PM (GBKbO)

188 173 This is frightening-

Mike Davis
@mrddmia

California Judge Yvette Roland--handpicked by the Democrat House speaker--is disbarring constitutional attorney John Eastman for making legal arguments with which she disagreed.

Roland's a donor to Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, DNC, ActBlue, and other Democrats.

https://tinyurl.com/57k59zdx
Posted by: redridinghood at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (NpAcC)
_________

Something is missing here. Judges don't disbar lawyers. The state bar associations do that. This probably involves a sanctions motion or perhaps a pro hac vice application.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:30 PM (iFTx/)

189 Don't worry. Mayo Pete is all over it like a fly on his husband's ~~butt~~ dick.
Posted by: wth at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (v0R5T)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:30 PM (YqDXo)

190 She’s on a roll bashing dems today! She made an off hand comment about Bill Clinton and his marriage that I did not appreciate! The reporter thankfully changed the subject! Why does msnbc keep her around??
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (JCZqz)

=======

"Off hand comment about an obviously loveless marriage" = "bashing dems".

Sure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:26 PM (GBKbO)

------------

Well, Hillary's no Energizer Bunny ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 28, 2024 03:30 PM (oa8tW)

191 181 Start disbarring left-wing lawyers in red states.

It's the only language they understand.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (YAtuc)

Meatball Ron getting a judge to disbar John Morgan would be pretty fuckin' sweet, NGL.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 28, 2024 03:30 PM (DTX3h)

192 Something is missing here. Judges don't disbar lawyers. The state bar associations do that. This probably involves a sanctions motion or perhaps a pro hac vice application.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:30 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Or she picked up the phone and called the state Bar Association and told the Party Men there to go do their duty.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:31 PM (6bTRc)

193 "...all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!"

He didn't steal the documents but had an executive claim on them (Biden is the one who stole them), did not "grab pussies" but jokingly suggested others did. As for discriminating in housing or cheating at golf tournaments, I no idea what he's talking about. And he not only did not "foment insurrection" but argued against it and tried to ensure that it would not happen when in fact it was the democrats who tried fomenting it by withholding security personnel on J6.

I've detested this glib, unfunny, lying little throne-sniffing sh*tweasel from the moment he first appeared on the scene.

Posted by: Ordinary American at March 28, 2024 03:31 PM (hNi4N)

194 The simple answer to all the Leftist talking points is that I am not required to accept an obviously corrupt judicial process and decision.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 28, 2024 03:31 PM (2fIO4)

195 Incontinence?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at March 28, 2024 03:25 PM (8zt8L)

Not entirely, and as has been said, if he had conquered all of Europe, eventually he would have made his way to North America, and at least attempted to take over here too.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2024 03:31 PM (dGCAG)

196 30, or so, till first pitch.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (PQ4m2)

197 DJG,

What was that quote again from the guy being interviewed for a position when he said something about being impressed with his own intellect?
Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:29 PM (rj6Yv)
______________

I don't recall, but I thought "he's easily impressed."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (YqDXo)

198 A Delta flight from Portland to New York allegedly just lost an engine and had to land in Spokane.

It's BidenTravel!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 28, 2024 03:22 PM (YAtuc)

Pretty careless on Delta’s part…
Posted by: tubal

Hope they had a spare.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (cOq4q)

199 "OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump!", Stewart flounced tearfully to his water-resistant chaise lounge.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (cf/0E)

200 Those stabilizer shoes must be working for Dementia Joe would have been a better comment…

Posted by: tubal at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (PCK5/)

201 I'm assessing the value of this comment as First.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (fKIdX)

202 188 173 This is frightening-

Mike Davis
@mrddmia

California Judge Yvette Roland--handpicked by the Democrat House speaker--is disbarring constitutional attorney John Eastman for making legal arguments with which she disagreed.

Roland's a donor to Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, DNC, ActBlue, and other Democrats.

https://tinyurl.com/57k59zdx
Posted by: redridinghood at March 28, 2024 03:27 PM (NpAcC)
_________

Something is missing here. Judges don't disbar lawyers. The state bar associations do that. This probably involves a sanctions motion or perhaps a pro hac vice application.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:30 PM (iFTx/)

Yeah, I thought this would be appealed to the bar, if in fact she's attempting to do it as a sanction...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (exHjb)

203 Am I misremembering or did Stewart use some crazy technicality to get his property labeled a farm for tax purposes?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (KbCG3)

204 This wealthy bikini brunette is no longer considering the acquisition of a pied-a-terre in New York, and will instead purchase a condo in Miami where she won't be targeted with a bill of attainder *or* have her apartment stolen by squatters:
http://tiny.cc/20skxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (6bTRc)

205 Prop 13 in Ca. The only reason my mom can live in the house I grew up in. She is surviving on a 1978 assesment.

House might be 8 bills now. A thou a month for property tax.

Posted by: DOYLE at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (Z8Yh2)

206 Trevor Noah is so bad at comedy that I don't even dislike him. It's more like astonishment.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (LEbx2)

207 What was that quote again from the guy being interviewed for a position when he said something about being impressed with his own intellect?
Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:29 PM (rj6Yv)

This is ribrary?

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (6gUd4)

208 201 I'm assessing the value of this comment as First.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (fKIdX)

======

You are hereby charged $500 billion.

You can appeal the decision after you pay me the $500 billion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (GBKbO)

209 Well, Hillary's no Energizer Bunny ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 28, 2024 03:30 PM (oa8tW)
______________

Yet she buys batteries by the case.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (YqDXo)

210 What a whiny bitch.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (R4t5M)

211 And when "Judge" Erdogon valued Mar-a-Largo at $18M, where did he get that figure?
Posted by: mrp
_______________

His proctologist extracted it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:28 PM (YqDXo)

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Mayor Pete's also a proctologist?

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (oa8tW)

212 Am I misremembering or did Stewart use some crazy technicality to get his property labeled a farm for tax purposes?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (KbCG3)
_________

Jon Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen have entered the chat

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (iFTx/)

213 Last, I don't care if Trump claimed his properties were worth $6.24 x 10^23
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:24 PM

Personally, I find Trump's valuation compelling, although there is a slight rounding error.

Posted by: zombie Amedeo Avogadro at March 28, 2024 03:34 PM (a3Q+t)

214 PS - CA's judge going crazy is why DOJ allows its attorneys to be barred in any of the 5o states and/or DC...so no state could play this game on federal attorneys.

Maybe we find that CA attorney and get him working high up in DOJ in 2025...or any of the federal departments that use attorneys...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 28, 2024 03:34 PM (exHjb)

215
We can't all be married to Alan Greenspan and expect a vigorous rogering when we get home.

Posted by: Auspex at March 28, 2024 03:34 PM (j4U/Z)

216 Am I misremembering or did Stewart use some crazy technicality to get his property labeled a farm for tax purposes?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (KbCG3)

Maybe. But I think Springsteen planted some tomatoes or something for that reason in Jersey.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2024 03:34 PM (LEbx2)

217 You are hereby charged $500 billion.

You can appeal the decision after you pay me the $500 billion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (GBKbO)

Can I take a loan out using my comment as collateral?

Alternatively, would you accept an ugly monkey jpg as payment?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2024 03:34 PM (fKIdX)

218 Trevor Noah is so bad at comedy that I don't even dislike him. It's more like astonishment.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (LEbx2)

His comedy is so bad, he wanted to speak at a friend's funeral and they told him no because it wasn't funny enough.

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:34 PM (6gUd4)

219 > That reminds me ... does anyone have a recipe for a chicken mole?

If you're looking for an absolutely amazing, genuine black mole, here ya go:

http://tiny.cc/30skxz

It's going to take a while to make.

To cook the chicken:
Dutch oven at medium high
Brown chicken on all sides (10 minutes)
Put sauce in pot
Reduce to medium low and cover
Simmer until chicken is tender (15 - 20 minutes)

Posted by: bonhomme at March 28, 2024 03:35 PM (Odg76)

220 Prop 13 in Ca. The only reason my mom can live in the house I grew up in. She is surviving on a 1978 assessment.
______________

God love Howard Jarvis and Prop. 13, both of which the Reds here hate with the heat of a thousand suns. We're grandfathered in here, otherwise we'd be totally hosed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:35 PM (YqDXo)

221 217 Can I take a loan out using my comment as collateral?

Alternatively, would you accept an ugly monkey jpg as payment?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2024 03:34 PM (fKIdX)

=========

No, you are barred from business on AoSHQ. Now, cough up the dough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:35 PM (GBKbO)

222
OT, but I scoured the internet last night, well I did my best with a couple of search engines and 5 minutes on Ancestry.com and I couldn't find a picture of the two Illinois Parole Review Board members who stepped down after that poor kid was murdered by one of their Social Justice projects.

I couldn't find LeAnn Miller, but I found Donald Shelton because he was a cop once upon a time. Yes, yes, if Obama had a son...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at March 28, 2024 03:35 PM (T3es0)

223
There's some video on X where Trump is taking some practice swings with a golf ball nearby. Not on a tee. There's some backdrop behind him which is nowhere near where he would actually tee off.

He swings the club a time or two then picks up the ball off the ground.

HE'S CHEATING!!! According to the left, who need to be beat across the head with a nine iron. Repeatedly.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 28, 2024 03:35 PM (RKVpM)

224 Speaking of large amounts of money, I have to go shop for Easter dinner soon. Seven of us altogether, including a couple of teenaged boys. I don't even want to think what it's going to cost.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 28, 2024 03:35 PM (T+Iwg)

225 Trevor Noah is as funny as Joe Rogan.

Posted by: DOYLE at March 28, 2024 03:36 PM (Z8Yh2)

226 No, you are barred from business on AoSHQ. Now, cough up the dough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:35 PM (GBKbO)

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2024 03:36 PM (fKIdX)

227 161 DU

Your mention of Andrea Mitchell gives me the hook I needed to tell my favorite Thursday afternoon joke:

Alan Greenspan gets back from his honeymoon with Andrea Mitchell.

A friend asks him, "How'd it go, Alan?"

Greenspan says, "Not so good, if you really want the truth."

Friend: "Well, Alan, don't blame yourself too much. You know, old age... you've got to expect some difficulties in that department."

Greenspan: "No, you don't understand. The problem wasn't on the supply side."

Posted by: mnw at March 28, 2024 03:36 PM (NLIak)

228 30, or so, till first pitch.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM

359, or so, until International Talk Like William Shatner Day.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher, Ensign, UFP Starfleet at March 28, 2024 03:37 PM (a3Q+t)

229 Mayor Pete's also a proctologist?
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (oa8tW)
________________

Amateur proctologist.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:37 PM (YqDXo)

230 The difference between Jon Stewart and Bruce Springsteen is one is a shitty fake bullshit singer scumbag and the other is a phony piece of shit fag unfunny turd.

Oh did you think I was going somewhere with that?

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:37 PM (6gUd4)

231 I couldn't find a picture of the two Illinois Parole Review Board members who stepped down after that poor kid was murdered by one of their Social Justice projects.
____

They stepped down? Fools.

Posted by: Fanni Willis at March 28, 2024 03:37 PM (RSqHn)

232 This wealthy bikini brunette is no longer considering the acquisition of a pied-a-terre in New York, and will instead purchase a condo in Miami where she won't be targeted with a bill of attainder *or* have her apartment stolen by squatters:
http://tiny.cc/20skxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......

That's not a ficus.

Posted by: wth at March 28, 2024 03:37 PM (v0R5T)

233 194 The simple answer to all the Leftist talking points is that I am not required to accept an obviously corrupt judicial process and decision.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 28, 2024 03:31 PM (2fIO4)

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To comment on my own comment. This is essentially O'Leary's take as well. The whole process is so corrupt that it actually undermines legal stability and the economic system.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 28, 2024 03:38 PM (2fIO4)

234 We've really gotten way off track with the phrase GRAB EM' BY THE PUSSY.

It doesn't f'ing mean physically reaching and grabbing their pussy with your g-damn hand. That's f'ing retarded and will land you in jail or get smacked.

It means shagging them real good to where they keep coming back for more or being masculine and authentic enough that you stimulate the most important sexual organ on a woman, their mind. You have that they'll be throwing that vagina on you regularly.

Posted by: JROD at March 28, 2024 03:38 PM (IlL6s)

235 HE'S CHEATING!!! According to the left, who need to be beat across the head with a nine iron. Repeatedly.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 28, 2024 03:35 PM (RKVpM)
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"I'm on it!" - Michael Skakel

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:38 PM (YqDXo)

236 216 Am I misremembering or did Stewart use some crazy technicality to get his property labeled a farm for tax purposes?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM (KbCG3)

Maybe. But I think Springsteen planted some tomatoes or something for that reason in Jersey.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2024 03:34 PM (LEbx2)
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Bon Jovi's palatial estate is technically classified as a bee farm (IIRC) and thus taxed at much lower rates. So this leftwing fuckhole keeps a few bees on the property to keep this scam in effect.

Springsteen (again, IIRC) bought land that was technically a farm ages ago -- almost all of that area of NJ was farmland at one point -- but continues to classify it as a farm, even though it's a sprawling residential estate having nothing to do with farming.

Fuck both of these twats.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:38 PM (iFTx/)

237 Jon Stewart is a form of weasel.

This is known.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 28, 2024 03:38 PM (gllTv)

238 To me, the analogy here is, any dude who went to high school sometime NOT in the past 10 years or so, everyone and anyone was subject to being called a fag, or told by another guy he was gonna F is mother, or occasionally, threaten to punch him in the nose. Sometimes punches actually were thrown, but if all other things being equal, it was assumed nobody involved was being bullied beyond a certain level, nobody cared.

Were those things against the rules? Sure they were! But nobody cared.

So now flash forward, some jerk you told to sux your dix 30 years ago is a lawyer, and now he's going to sue your for sectional harassment.

Can he get away with it? In today's court system? Maybe. Especially if you happen to be someone the court system is already gunning for.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2024 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

239 It means shagging them real good to where they keep coming back for more or being masculine and authentic enough that you stimulate the most important sexual organ on a woman, their mind.
________________

Of course, being a multibillionaire doesn't hurt, either.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:39 PM (YqDXo)

240 Or she picked up the phone and called the state Bar Association and told the Party Men there to go do their duty.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:31 PM (6bTRc)

"Recommended" disbarment - but moral of the story? Don't be a CA lawyer if you aren't a lefty - go get your law license elsewhere.

Posted by: Boswell at March 28, 2024 03:39 PM (K+UlC)

241 240 "Recommended" disbarment - but moral of the story? Don't be a CA lawyer if you aren't a lefty - go get your law license elsewhere.
Posted by: Boswell at March 28, 2024 03:39 PM (K+UlC)

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But my family almond farm!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

242 It doesn't f'ing mean physically reaching and grabbing their pussy with your g-damn hand. That's f'ing retarded and will land you in jail or get smacked.

It means shagging them real good to where they keep coming back for more or being masculine and authentic enough that you stimulate the most important sexual organ on a woman, their mind. You have that they'll be throwing that vagina on you regularly.
Posted by: JROD at March 28, 2024 03:38 PM (IlL6s)

Progressives don't know what a woman is, so how in hell would they know anything about pussies?

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 28, 2024 03:40 PM (gllTv)

243 209 Well, Hillary's no Energizer Bunny ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 28, 2024 03:30 PM (oa8tW)
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Yet she buys ~~batteries~~ box wine by the case.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Fixed it for you. If only she'd buy me some dental dams, so I wouldn't have to pick pubes out of my teeth...

Posted by: Huma Abedin at March 28, 2024 03:40 PM (JCZqz)

244 That reminds me ... does anyone have a recipe for a chicken mole?
Posted by: mrp

Ok, but you're gonna need raisins, chocolate, pistachios, cascabel, chipotle, de arbol, costeños, espresso, beetles, onions, garlic, cumin, cinnamon, allspice, sugar, and a pinch of salt...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 28, 2024 03:41 PM (IG4Id)

245 This wealthy bikini brunette is no longer considering the acquisition of a pied-a-terre in New York, and will instead purchase a condo in Miami where she won't be targeted with a bill of attainder *or* have her apartment stolen by squatters:
http://tiny.cc/20skxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:32 PM

2/10. Skips leg day.

Posted by: GAINZZZ Thread Commenters at March 28, 2024 03:41 PM (a3Q+t)

246 Prop 13 in Ca. The only reason my mom can live in the house I grew up in. She is surviving on a 1978 assesment.

House might be 8 bills now. A thou a month for property tax.
Posted by: DOYLE at March 28, 2024 03:33 PM (Z8Yh2)

Yea, exactly right. I am lucky my house is valued at what I paid, because the value is 4 times that now. They will go after prop 13 at some point.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 28, 2024 03:41 PM (NtVYv)

247 I couldn't find a picture of the two Illinois Parole Review Board members who stepped down after that poor kid was murdered by one of their Social Justice projects.
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A modest proposal: require parolees to act as live-in manservants in the home of any parole board member who votes to grant them parole.

You think he's harmless? Let's see you put your ass on the line.

Sleep tight now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:42 PM (YqDXo)

248 the most important sexual organ on a woman, their mind.
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Usually pea sized. Sometimes you really have to look for it.

Oh I thought you were talking about something else. I swear.

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:42 PM (6gUd4)

249 Something is missing here. Judges don't disbar lawyers. The state bar associations do that. This probably involves a sanctions motion or perhaps a pro hac vice application.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 28, 2024 03:30 PM (iFTx/)

I "Think" The Judge's decision is to REFER Eastman to the Stare Bar to Disbar him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2024 03:42 PM (PQ4m2)

250 If you're looking for an absolutely amazing, genuine black mole, here ya go:

http://tiny.cc/30skxz

It's going to take a while to make.

To cook the chicken:
Dutch oven at medium high
Brown chicken on all sides (10 minutes)
Put sauce in pot
Reduce to medium low and cover
Simmer until chicken is tender (15 - 20 minutes)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 28, 2024 03:35 PM (Odg76)

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Thank you. When I worked at the convenience store, a Mexican-born--and-raised cook would often stop by after work and we'd chat. He talked about his chicken mole and I made a close approximation. Superb, but I lost the recipe.

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:42 PM (rj6Yv)

251 Yea, exactly right. I am lucky my house is valued at what I paid, because the value is 4 times that now. They will go after prop 13 at some point.
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CA will then only have the ultra rich and the ultra poor. Utopia!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 28, 2024 03:42 PM (RSqHn)

252 @242 tcn in AK-LMAO, well you got me there! We should know better though.

Posted by: JROD at March 28, 2024 03:43 PM (IlL6s)

253 "Recommended" disbarment - but moral of the story? Don't be a CA lawyer if you aren't a lefty - go get your law license elsewhere.
Posted by: Boswell at March 28, 2024 03:39 PM (K+UlC)

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But my family almond farm!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

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"Now that's just cruel."

-- Lurking VDH

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 28, 2024 03:43 PM (oa8tW)

254 Actually is does mean grab the puss. Led Zepplin has stories. Whole fish may have been involved.

See also, Def Leppard, The Who, Aerosmith, Whitesnake, Motley Crue, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Wilt Chamberlain, you get the picture.

Posted by: DOYLE at March 28, 2024 03:43 PM (Z8Yh2)

255 Yea, exactly right. I am lucky my house is valued at what I paid, because the value is 4 times that now. They will go after prop 13 at some point.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 28, 2024 03:41 PM (NtVYv)
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The Reds have been trying since 1978, but so far have limited themselves to trying to hose commercial real estate owners. Gutting Prop. 13 for homeowners is a political third rail, to the Reds' intense frustration. How dare people keep what they earned and paid for?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:43 PM (YqDXo)

256 modest proposal: require parolees to act as live-in manservants in the home of any parole board member who votes to grant them parole.

You think he's harmless? Let's see you put your ass on the line.

Sleep tight now.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:42 PM (YqDXo)

The house has to be a gun-free zone. We can't have any of that.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 28, 2024 03:43 PM (R4t5M)

257 It doesn't f'ing mean physically reaching and grabbing their pussy with your g-damn hand. That's f'ing retarded and will land you in jail or get smacked.

It means shagging them real good to where they keep coming back for more or being masculine and authentic enough that you stimulate the most important sexual organ on a woman, their mind. You have that they'll be throwing that vagina on you regularly.
Posted by: JROD at March 28, 2024 03:38 PM

Alternatively, be a winner.

Posted by: John Mason at March 28, 2024 03:44 PM (a3Q+t)

258 But my family almond farm!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 28, 2024 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

You have to be a lawyer to own a nut farm? Sounds about right, actually.

Posted by: Boswell at March 28, 2024 03:44 PM (K+UlC)

259 @248 ...the man in the boat

Posted by: JROD at March 28, 2024 03:45 PM (IlL6s)

260 "28 NY will do nothing to him.

But never forget, Rush Limbaugh moved to FL in 1997, and NY hounded that dude FOREVER, trying to shake him down for additional tax money. He covered this on his radio show many times. Hell, they might still be going after his estate even now!
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 28, 2024 03:00 PM (8sMut)"

Louis Rossman (the Mac-fixit guy) is in the same boat. Been hounded, sued, has judgements and liens applied, even had some sort of warrant on him, and has been living in Tejas for 3-4 years now, yet they hound him to death DEMANING he correct his outstanding debts.

Which, he has none, since he resides in Tejas. Yet NY, NYC, and Albany still want their moola...

Posted by: Pinochet Airlines Attendant at March 28, 2024 03:45 PM (zL/eJ)

261 Don't get me started on Almond milk. Just don't.

Posted by: DOYLE at March 28, 2024 03:46 PM (Z8Yh2)

262 The house has to be a gun-free zone. We can't have any of that.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 28, 2024 03:43 PM (R4t5M)
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And no locks on interior doors, either. After all, the jailbird is harmless, right?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:47 PM (YqDXo)

263 Don't get me started on Almond milk. Just don't.
Posted by: DOYLE at March 28, 2024 03:46 PM (Z8Yh2)

Don't try to cook with that shit.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 28, 2024 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)

264 Ok, but you're gonna need raisins, chocolate, pistachios, cascabel, chipotle, de arbol, costeños, espresso, beetles, onions, garlic, cumin, cinnamon, allspice, sugar, and a pinch of salt...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 28, 2024 03:41 PM (IG4Id)

I bought my mole sauce off of a supermarket shelf. The cook recommended Dona Maria, so that's what I used. I watched that PBS Mexican food guy make a mole sauce and thought to myself "that's a lot of work and money".

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:49 PM (rj6Yv)

265 My guess this is exacerbated by the availability of State and Local Tax Exemption that Trump put a cap on to equalize its impact across the 50 states. Seems using the Federal Taxpayer to subsidize the Wealthy of NY, IL, and CA caused them so much angst that they launched a Bio Bomb on the world to steal an American election. What are the odds?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 28, 2024 03:49 PM (n17eQ)

266 Today I learned that Subway restaurants in Holland serve sushi.

Subway sushi cannot be good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:49 PM (6bTRc)

267 259 @248 ...the man in the boat
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Lothar of the Hill People SNL - https://youtu.be/pET29E1Ct_U?t=210

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 28, 2024 03:49 PM (RSqHn)

268 > Don't get me started on Almond milk. Just don't.

Why? Did you get a RSI from the tiny teats?

Posted by: bonhomme at March 28, 2024 03:49 PM (Odg76)

269 This wealthy bikini brunette is no longer considering the acquisition of a pied-a-terre in New York, and will instead purchase a condo in Miami where she won't be targeted with a bill of attainder *or* have her apartment stolen by squatters:
http://tiny.cc/20skxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

-----------

Where have you gone Victoria's Secrets
Frustration turns its lonely eyes to you ... woo hoo hoo.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 28, 2024 03:51 PM (idbzh)

270 See also, Def Leppard, The Who, Aerosmith, Whitesnake, Motley Crue, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Wilt Chamberlain, you get the picture.
Posted by: DOYLE at March 28, 2024 03:43 PM (Z8Yh2)
.......

Speaking of which, did they catch P Diddy yet?

Posted by: wth at March 28, 2024 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

271 Stewart argued that "money isn't infinite"

Coulda fooled us.

Posted by: U.S. Currency Printing Presses at March 28, 2024 03:51 PM (yc31Q)

272 The Reds have been trying since 1978, but so far have limited themselves to trying to hose commercial real estate owners. Gutting Prop. 13 for homeowners is a political third rail, to the Reds' intense frustration. How dare people keep what they earned and paid for?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:43 PM (YqDXo)

PLet the squatters do it. That's Plan B.

Posted by: mrp at March 28, 2024 03:52 PM (rj6Yv)

273
Subway sushi cannot be good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 28, 2024 03:49 PM

Didn't someone determine that their tuna contained no actual tuna?

You're probably safe. Maybe for a couple of hours.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 28, 2024 03:52 PM (RKVpM)

274
!!!!!' !!! !!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! !!!!!!' !!!! !

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!! !!!

Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2024 03:53 PM (nFnyb)

275 Usually the Supreme Court in a state has jurisdiction to disbar or suspend an attorney licensed in the state.

I don’t know how liberal and whacko the Cali Supremes are, but the judge is crazy to do that to a lawyer.

Get out of California now.

Posted by: Czech Chick at March 28, 2024 03:53 PM (/zsGh)

276 Sure hope Jon doesn't go full Olbermann. Because that would be awful and totally not funny.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 28, 2024 03:54 PM (I+ZWa)

277 It seems John Stewart doesn't like women and prefers penis.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 28, 2024 03:54 PM (eYF7X)

278 Stewart's schtick worked back when there was no mainstream means of calling out his BS.

Dude won't last long in the modern Twitter era.

Posted by: weew at March 28, 2024 03:54 PM (EaEMG)

279 I watched that PBS Mexican food guy make a mole sauce and thought to myself "that's a lot of work and money".
Posted by: mrp

Yeah, Bayless, he's a good * cough * dude.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 28, 2024 03:54 PM (IG4Id)

280 Trout opened the season by going yard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2024 03:54 PM (PQ4m2)

281 My guess this is exacerbated by the availability of State and Local Tax Exemption that Trump put a cap on to equalize its impact across the 50 states.
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That move was pure genius. Of course lefties in lefty-infested states were happy to vote for leftist idiocies. All they were doing was redirecting their Federal taxes to pay for local leftist stupidity.

With SLAT, they had to pay for leftist stupidity ON TOP OF what they were going to pay in Federal taxes.

Brilliant.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2024 03:55 PM (YqDXo)

282 Today I learned that Subway restaurants in Holland serve sushi.

Subway sushi cannot be good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
......

They're so high in Amsterdam they'll eat anything.

Posted by: wth at March 28, 2024 03:55 PM (v0R5T)

283 Exclamation points?

https://youtu.be/VSKn8RlD7Is

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at March 28, 2024 03:56 PM (WM2Xy)

284 At one time I would have just laughed at this. but...

I'm convinced Stewart is one of the reasons we got Obama as president for not just one disastrous term but two.

Posted by: dginnorcal at March 28, 2024 03:56 PM (9EFGD)

285
Trout opened the season by going yard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2024 03:54 PM

Just say No to Nitrous. I mean, you ok?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 28, 2024 03:56 PM (RKVpM)

286 nood PN

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 28, 2024 03:56 PM (IG4Id)

287
What's Going on With Shipping? re: MV Dali and Key Bridge

https://youtu.be/alpaDfnT-Bk?si=IweLOCh_dvGxkpd4

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2024 03:56 PM (xG4kz)

288 NOOD NUDE NOOD

Posted by: Max Power at March 28, 2024 03:57 PM (q177U)

289 Subway sushi cannot be good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Truck stop sushi is worse.

Posted by: U.S. Currency Printing Presses at March 28, 2024 03:57 PM (yc31Q)

290 I'm convinced Stewart is one of the reasons we got Obama as president for not just one disastrous term but two.

Posted by: dginnorcal at March 28, 2024 03:56 PM (9EFGD)

Don't forget the role McCain and Romney played.

Shocker the country decided they were worthless principle-less pieces of shit, huh?

Posted by: ... at March 28, 2024 03:58 PM (6gUd4)

291 I saw Subway Sushi open for Samurai Attack at Timeout Tokyo in '87.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 28, 2024 03:58 PM (xAQTe)

292 Today I learned that Subway restaurants in Holland serve sushi.

I could never understand someone wanting to eat raw fish. I would think tapeworms the size of a pythons would be a deterrent but no, some people still crave that stuff.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 28, 2024 03:58 PM (eYF7X)

293 280 Trout opened the season by going yard
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Its fishing season?

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at March 28, 2024 03:59 PM (sAmhv)

294 254 Actually is does mean grab the puss. Led Zepplin has stories. Whole fish may have been involved.

this is about monty python's fish-slapping dance, isn't it?

Posted by: anachronda at March 28, 2024 04:00 PM (edU/H)

295 Coulda fooled us.
Posted by: U.S. Currency Printing Presses at March 28, 2024 03:51 PM (yc31Q)

This ain't right. We can spend as much as we want.

Posted by: U.S. Government at March 28, 2024 04:08 PM (8sMut)

296 I did, at one time find Stephen Colbert to be funny. Jon Stewart has never been funny.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 28, 2024 04:13 PM (lSfFP)

297 I could never understand someone wanting to eat raw fish. I would think tapeworms the size of a pythons would be a deterrent but no, some people still crave that stuff.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 28, 2024 03:58 PM (eYF7X)

No trip to Japan is complete without indilging in some sushi with hot sake. Or a cold Kirin Ichiban. Or a Asahi. Or a Sapporo.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 28, 2024 04:16 PM (8sMut)

298 Truck stop sushi is worse.
Posted by: U.S. Currency Printing Presses at March 28, 2024 03:57 PM (yc31Q)

I had some great sushi at subway stations (as in actual Tokyo subway stations) in Japan. Last minute buys on my way back to Yokota AB.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 28, 2024 04:18 PM (8sMut)

299 It needs to be said - exclamation points detract from serious writing; in fact, they should only be used for an actual exclamation. Unless writing for comedy, exclamation points are for little girls and make me curl my lip.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist and punctuation nag at March 28, 2024 04:40 PM (w6EFb)

300 So many exclamation points.

You want a vespa and a messenger bag to go with all of those exclamation points?

Get rid of the exclamation points. I HATE exclamation points.

https://bit.ly/3IZblfQ

Posted by: Mr. Lippman at March 28, 2024 05:02 PM (UKWFA)

301 Just so its clear, the idiots on CNN were yapping on how Mar A Lago could bring 200 million which is NOT ENOUGH to pay the 400+ million bond as they had a good laugh.

Not realizing of course, that their estimated return for Mar A Lago means trump was innocent of the BS in the first place.

Posted by: realityman at March 28, 2024 05:06 PM (xsWV3)

302 We built a web app once that scraped all the local property value and assessment available.

Then made that searchable so that people could search what their property had against similar, and challenge assessment values.

We did it for a few lawyers... at the time to make it go live they told us to stop... they got word the local government would never let it happen and didn't want any problems.

When it comes to government, they have all the info they need. Anything tax related is on them, not on you.. .if you are paying too much you can appeal, but if they are not taxing you enough, it's not your problem.

Posted by: realityman at March 28, 2024 05:14 PM (xsWV3)

303 This is so stupid. Taxes are based on assessed value. The owner has no input on either number. It's just what the value is assessed at and the taxes levied. Most of us own a property. We just pay what they make us pay.

Stewart sold his property for more than it's assessed value like everyone does. The seller doesn't determine that number either. The buyer pays what the buyer wants to pay.

What Trump did is lie about the value of his properties, greatly overstating their value and in some cases their square footage, so he could obtain favorable loans from banks.

No evidence Stewart leveraged his properties to obtain loans. No evidence he over or undervalued his properties. This is desperate.

Posted by: Seattle Slough at March 28, 2024 07:22 PM (KcqqB)

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