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Massive Container Ship Smashes Into Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge, Utterly Destroying It
Two people have been rescued. Search parties are still searching for more people lost in the collapse. The collision happened at 1:30 am, so hopes of finding the other lost people are fading. Fox News:
The crew of the cargo ship that struck the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore lost power and issued a mayday in the moments before the disaster, Maryland Gov. Wes Moore said. The container ship Dali sent the mayday in time for authorities to stop traffic from entering the bridge, limiting the number of vehicles involved in what officials have called a "mass casualty event." "We're thankful that between the mayday and the collapse that we had officials who were able to begin to stop the flow of traffic so more cars were not on the bridge," Moore said. Authorities said a crew of eight construction workers were on the bridge, in addition to any traffic at the time of the collapse. Search and rescue operations pulled two workers from the water, one in critical condition who was hospitalized. Efforts to locate the other six are ongoing. Authorities said that sonar had detected cars in the water, which is about 50 feet deep. The temperature was about 47 degrees Fahrenheit before dawn on Tuesday, according to a buoy that collects data for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Here's video of the collapse of the Francis Key Scott Bridge from this morning. The bridge was struck by a cargo ship just before 1:30 a.m. A search is underway for at least seven people. pic.twitter.com/FRGHeJ1gIe
— The Baltimore Banner (@BaltimoreBanner) March 26, 2024
Terrifying! A ship collides with Francis Key Scott Bridge causing it to collapse. Seven vehicles plunged into the water. Two people have been rescued. It’s unclear how many people remain missing. Search & rescue efforts may take days, hours, or weeks. We are praying for the… pic.twitter.com/Fav5j992AQ
— MEFeater Magazine (@mefeater) March 26, 2024
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2024 12:01 PM (XGfg7)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 26, 2024 12:01 PM (DTX3h)
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:02 PM (CIS44)
Isn't this the story of Joe Biden's America?
Posted by: fd at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (vFG9F)
The only positive is that it happened iint he middle of the night or it would have been an even greater disaster.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: That Guy at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (QNSds)
Posted by: ace at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (wgA3C)
++++
They have.
The Gods of the Copybook Headings.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (6bTRc)
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (lzI4r)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (CsUN+)
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (XGfg7)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (Akjoo)
https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poem/poems_strain.htm
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (6bTRc)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (9yWhg)
Ace @ThatUchihaGuy [NOT our Ace]
Shocking footage reveals the start of the incident in Baltimore Harbor where 20 people are now missing. Our hearts are with Baltimore, Maryland. #BreakingNews
https://tinyurl.com/ysbvxf5v
54 seconds; no sound
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (2yu8s)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 26, 2024 12:05 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: s_tenhoff at March 26, 2024 12:05 PM (2waQ7)
Thanks. I think I got swindled.
Posted by: ace at March 26, 2024 12:05 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2024 12:05 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: PabloD at March 26, 2024 12:05 PM (6xXEa)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 26, 2024 12:05 PM (CsUN+)
That is pure fiction from Patriot Games
Still where is the MV Dali registered?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:05 PM (lzI4r)
should've issued a shrove tuesday.
Posted by: arnold j. rimmer, bsc ssc at March 26, 2024 12:05 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (wgA3C)
It's Baltimore. Our local hero is Freddie Gray
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:06 PM (JunzL)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (QNSds)
It seems like it was ruled out before the collision. I doubt a terrorist would frantically warn the cops to close the bridge he was attacking.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2024 12:06 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: The Tacoma Narrows Bridge at March 26, 2024 12:06 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Stu Podaso at March 26, 2024 12:07 PM (k0eIr)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
But see, that's the genius of it!
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:07 PM (CIS44)
https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poem/poems_strain.htm
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
That's a great poem. Kipling was one of the greatest poets in the English language.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:07 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2024 12:07 PM (wgA3C)
Posted by: ace at March 26, 2024 12:07 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2024 12:07 PM (FQmDC)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2024 12:07 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (lzI4r)
Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Member of Congress at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (PiwSw)
https://tinyurl.com/2vkt8ta6
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (YAtuc)
But usually it's because of the choices that civilization made before its collapse.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
Deep thinker Ace.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Legion of Boom at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (TEkdf)
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (CIS44)
Pleassssse call your federal representative or senator and demand they spend more federal money on these items, inner city Midnight BaseKetball and Head Start.
For The Chirruns!
Posted by: Smooth Brained registered democrat voters at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (9KyZG)
Also, 'Disinformation Expert'. It's not like you did not tell us.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (mPuaa)
Under normal circumstances, a project of this scale in modern America would take probably 10 years. Environmental impact reviews, grease, vendor fixing, goldbricking contractors, etc. There are no public works projects, there are only jobs programs. If you get a road or a bridge as a consequence, that's just icing on the cake.
So it will be interesting to see what happens here, especially when you combine the corruption of the FedGov with the corruption of Baltimore. My bet is that this bridge is either going to take a decade to replace, or it will be expedited through the process and be done in 18 months, but will cost a trillion dollars as a consequence because *everyone* all the chain is going not to wet, but to positively *soak* their beaks.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (6bTRc)
Same bridge, maybe a predecessor? Anyone confirm?
Posted by: From about That Time at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (4780s)
and one of the vehicles looks like a military jeep or Hummer. Archimedes is right, this is video from a different event entirely.
Posted by: ace at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: weew at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (Ou9DR)
Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2024 12:07 PM (FQmDC)
the only lucky thing was that it happened at 1:30 am. But there are some presumed fatalities of motorists, it was a long bridge.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (i9ffA)
Thanks. I think I got swindled.
Posted by: ace
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DISINFORMATION!!! SEND UKRAINE MONEY!!!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:09 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:06 PM
Thanks...couldn't remember that living brain donor's name.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 26, 2024 12:09 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at March 26, 2024 12:09 PM (m0JEg)
++++
I hope they find them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:09 PM (6bTRc)
Posted by: DanMan at March 26, 2024 12:09 PM (8uzBS)
Where were the tugs?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (lzI4r)
If you have the time, mosey on over to eng-tips.com and look for the “Engineering Failures and Disasters” sub-forum. One of the forum members has a tug boat background, and he stated that there’s not much a tug boat can do if the ship is going faster than 6 knots.
Ship tracking showed that the ship was going 8.5 knots when the power failed, and was at 7.5 knots just before impact.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 26, 2024 12:09 PM (9mfKN)
Posted by: Coki at March 26, 2024 12:09 PM (Wkrcf)
Feel bad for the dudes that are very likely dead but all things considered it could have been a lot worse.
I wonder what the daytime traffic on that bridge is like?
And will its eventual replacement, the Angela Davis/Mumia Abu Jamal Revolutionary Memorial Bridge come with torpedoes for just such an eventuality?
Posted by: Robert at March 26, 2024 12:09 PM (GGtY+)
Posted by: Cheri at March 26, 2024 12:10 PM (oiNtH)
https://tinyurl.com/k8348cp3
The Sons of Martha
The Sons of Mary seldom bother, for they have inherited that good part;
But the Sons of Martha favour their Mother of the careful soul and the troubled heart.
And because she lost her temper once, and because she was rude to the Lord her Guest,
Her Sons must wait upon Mary’s Sons, world without end, reprieve, or rest.
It is their care in all the ages to take the buffet and cushion the shock.
It is their care that the gear engages; it is their care that the switches lock.
It is their care that the wheels run truly; it is their care to embark and entrain,
Tally, transport, and deliver duly the Sons of Mary by land and main.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 26, 2024 12:10 PM (2yu8s)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:10 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
-Clay Davis
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:10 PM (CIS44)
They will find them next week, in a Blue Crab Special at a Bayside Restaurant.
Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2024 12:10 PM (wgA3C)
Some of these foreign flagged ships seem to have lax upkeep on their ships. One slammed into the Riverwalk in New Orleans years ago. Same thing ... lost power.
No early indicators of DEI being involved, unless there are some standards that were ignored in allowing this vessel on its particular course, idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 26, 2024 12:10 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: steevy
Rewatch it. There are construction vehicles with yellow flashing lights parked on the bridge just to the right of the midpoint. They go down.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2024 12:03 PM (QNSds)
because TSA keeps us safe from terrorists.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (D7oie)
I lean towards expedited. Anything around Baltimore or DC that might impact our betters happens very quickly.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (2ocoG)
yes, thank you, archimedes put me straight on that.
On the other hand, P-Diddy...
Posted by: ace at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (KRtlO)
Thank you,, thank you verrrra much
LETS DANCE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLbOBoa8vD8
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (X4yCj)
The Francis Scott Key Bridge should have had fenders.
Not sure how much those would have helped. The ship that hit it is close to the size of an aircraft carrier. Nearly 1000 ft long and over 100,000 tons of dead weight.
The prevention is "don't hit the bridge."
Well, perhaps then the design was faulty. Engineers are supposed to design structures to be safe and this bridge obviously wasn't.
1970's design. The bridge was built to take the ships of the day. There's going to be a lot of " shoulda-woulda-coulda" going on. This is a case of getting funds and time to update infrastructure. Consider the number of major bridges built 30/40 years ago that are just starting to need updating and retro-fitting, and multiply that by 20 for major bridges built before 1980. That's a lot of infrastructure that has been ignored or outright villified by GOP supply side/tax break deregulators since the 1980's.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (3vcct)
Look up the mayor of Baltimore's presser this morning about the incident. He looks like he just put the Xbox controller down from playing Madden all night. I wonder if anyone has told him it's traditional for him to head off to prison after he serves his term.
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (wb1YC)
It should be done in 2054!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:12 PM (YAtuc)
Same bridge, maybe a predecessor? Anyone confirm?
Posted by: From about That Time at March 26, 2024
***
I've read that this one was started in about '72 and finished ca. '77.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 26, 2024 12:12 PM (J2vNu)
Gruesome. Watching the twisted steal and water come up to you. Must of been a hell of a racket.
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2024 12:12 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 26, 2024 12:12 PM (JTwsP)
Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2024 12:12 PM (FQmDC)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism
It didn't ram itself.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:12 PM (9yWhg)
Same bridge, maybe a predecessor? Anyone confirm?
Posted by: From about That Time at March 26, 2024 12:08 PM (4780s)
Sounds like the "Bay Bridge" near Annapolis....7 miles long w/a curve in the middle.
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2024 12:12 PM (AwYPR)
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Ah, so insurance fraud and money laundering.
I had been so focused on it being an attack that I hadn't considered that, but it makes sense.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:12 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (2ocoG)
++++
Not to mention that the hazmat detours could possibly snarl things up in the highway network for a hundred miles in every direction.
I lean toward expedited, too. But I also expect that it will cost 12 figures as a result.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:12 PM (6bTRc)
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:13 PM (JunzL)
Precisely which government agency is responsible for the bridge?
In Portland, the county is responsible for the bridges, for obscure historical reasons.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:13 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 26, 2024 12:13 PM (pohLc)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 26, 2024 12:13 PM (a3Q+t)
Same bridge, maybe a predecessor? Anyone confirm?
There's one just north of the Philly airport on I-95 that roughly matches that description. This bridge didn't exist until the late 70s.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2024 12:13 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Joe the Hero (again!) at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (JCZqz)
Hey Dimwit... What about your hero Biden's Infrastructure bill ? Where did all that money go ? No doubt to remove racist freeways
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (Akjoo)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Brant Fagan at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (TFGP1)
Same bridge, maybe a predecessor? Anyone confirm?
Posted by: From about That Time at March 26, 2024
Are you thinking of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge? It's very high.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Candidus at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (V1yiu)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (63Dwl)
So they finally woke him up
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (Akjoo)
Posted by: Brant Fagan
much in the same way that hitting a deer is not covered by "collision" insurance.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:15 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: I don't know how to say this so I'll just say this at March 26, 2024 12:15 PM (vwiot)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (63Dwl)
Any takers on betting if Beau gets mentioned?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 26, 2024 12:15 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM
Beau died on that bridge.
Posted by: huerfano at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (qeiBW)
Yep, the Ukes smuggled explosives onto a civilian truck, turning the Russian truck driver into an unknowing suicide bomber.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (YAtuc)
***
What's the over / under on him saying he helped Francis Scott Key with the Star-Spangled Banner?
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (63Dwl)
Any takers on betting if Beau gets mentioned?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 26, 2024 12:15 PM (N39Ws)
And Trump is blamed
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (Akjoo)
Posted by: Joe Biteum at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (vFG9F)
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Baltimore City Public Schools (BCPS) Erector Set Builders Club.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (2F9za)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Beau died when the bridge on the river kwai collapsed. My word as a Biden.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: JT at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 26, 2024 12:17 PM (d2bW3)
Posted by: The Florida All-Girl Footbridge Engineering Team at March 26, 2024 12:17 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 26, 2024 12:17 PM (iFTx/)
They will find them next week, in a Blue Crab Special at a Bayside Restaurant.
Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2024 12:10 PM (wgA3C)
So Heartless! So Cruel! Why I don't even know some of you people!
Hate Has No Home Here!
(dials Joe's Crab Shack for reservations for 2 for next Tuesday)
Posted by: Reverend Martha Lesbean, LGQTBXYZ Advocate And Seafood Loving Wiccan at March 26, 2024 12:17 PM (9KyZG)
Posted by: Brant Fagan
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this is why I come here.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:17 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2024 12:06 PM (0FoWg)
The pilot need not be a party to the terror plot. Kill power to the engines, and he's helpless to prevent the collision.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2024 12:17 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: DEI Shaneequa at March 26, 2024 12:17 PM (V5BDR)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (lzI4r)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (B1FKF)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (gSZYf)
No early indicators of DEI being involved, unless there are some standards that were ignored in allowing this vessel on its particular course, idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 26, 2024
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The Riverwalk thing: It was a Saturday a week or two before Christmas. I'd considered going over there to do some shopping, and changed my mind. As far as I know, the ship that lost power struck the shopping center and its on-the-water promenade a glancing blow -- but a "glancing blow" from a container vessel like that still results in pretty horrific damage. From what I remmber from the time, the ship's captain did everything he coujld to restore power and avoid hitting the wharf. Then he went in blasting his ship's horn to warn people to get away. Might have saved a few lives.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (lzI4r)
Good question
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (Akjoo)
Also in ZeroHedge is an article where the Baltimore budget for police has been reduced by another $22M leaving whole neighborhoods grossly understaffed.
In an article last year, Baltimore schools are just kennels where few graduates can even read.
Baltimore is dead. Depends on what happens politically next - will they attempt to plunder the insureres and owners of the ship? If so, actuarials for other shipping insurers might just consider Baltimore to be too expensive a port.
Being the 9th largest domestic port, it will be interesting to see how other ports will be used, and how much traffic returns as car and coal exporters (the major port traffic) work out new contracts and routes with the entire chain of transport.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (TfEvu)
No early indicators of DEI being involved, unless there are some standards that were ignored in allowing this vessel on its particular course, idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 26, 2024 12:10 PM
There would have been a harbor pilot on board at the time of the crash. Pretty sure he is now in the custody of the NTSB.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (QNSds)
Posted by: The Colossus of Rhodes at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Brant Fagan
My aim is true.
Posted by: Declan MacManus at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Rep. Ilhan-Ilhan Omar at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM (w9Wax)
Posted by: Anna Puma a
and only like half of that was to dig graves for Arkanacide victims.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM (CIS44)
https://tinyurl.com/mpvstu3m
Recommend you use an ad-blocker, however.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM (9mfKN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (lzI4r)
Good question
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (Akjoo)
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"Those dumb fuckers thought shovel-ready jobs were a real thing."
-Obama, slightly paraphrased from an actual video
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I'm leaning this way until I hear differently. I'm guessing the power going off and on was when people realized what happened, a fight occurred, and power was restored too late.
I wouldn't have thought anything about it except that the Important People came out and said "there was no foul play!!!" before the rubble had finished falling into the water.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM (bZV5f)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (XeU6L)
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Tell me about it.
Posted by: The Colossus of Rhodes at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (XeU6L)
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"You steal one barbarian princess and one matty bit of ram hair, and the whole world is after you."
-Jason
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (mPuaa)
Posted by: joey biden at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (2yu8s)
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:13 PM
So...MV Dali....how are these first days of Spring working out for you?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (Wnv9h)
And for a bridge in a large metro area there really isn't that much traffic on it as I recall.
Bridge cost an est. $110 million in 70s bucks.
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (QB+5g)
https://tinyurl.com/acs4bn2s
Posted by: Gref at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2024 12:17 PM
Yes, boats don't have brakes.
Posted by: huerfano at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (qeiBW)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (d2bW3)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 26, 2024 12:11 PM (3vcct)
lol… I hear that in John Candy voice
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (gZ3KO)
But that's traditional. The FBI always announces that it wasn't terrorism minutes after any possible terrorist attack.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (KiBMU)
Into luxury homes, cars, travel, jewelry, stock-market of Party stewards, donors and certain family members.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (TfEvu)
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It wasn't $800B one time. It was baked into the cake and was $800B year after year after year via the continuing resolutions.
Trillions upon trillions and nothing was improved.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: javems at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (+PVrT)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (M/jpK)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (mPuaa)
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Proposal:
A $1 trillion infrastructure bill that only funds infrastructure the way they funded infrastructure in the 50s. Afterwards, all governmental officials are forced to retire to a small island in the middle of the Atlantic to live out the rest of their days for a job well done in finally fixing our roads.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:18 PM (lzI4r)
Crosswalks and traffic lights...in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2024 12:17 PM (tkR6S)
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But also helpless to *cause* it.
I don't buy sabotage or terrorism, at least not with respect to the bridge. Talk about a long-odds gamble on an extremely unlikely outcome. Everything had to go perfectly wrong, and you can never bet on that.
If sabotage was a factor - and I doubt it was - then it wasn't targeting the bridge and was more likely some disgruntled employee trying to stick it to his employer by fucking up the ship.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (6bTRc)
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (wb1YC)
one can readily imagine what king bark is shoveling here:
https://am11.mediaite.com/ med/cnt/uploads/2011/10/obama_shovel.jpg
Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (B1FKF)
Posted by: ... at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (RDLZ/)
Posted by: Azathoth
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This never happened when it was Ceylon. Just saying...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (JTwsP)
Posted by: huerfano at March 26, 2024 12:20 PM (qeiBW)
And somebody's going to pay for this glaring design flaw!
Posted by: Dewey, Cheatham & Howe, Class Action Tort Lawyers 1-800-SUE THEM at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: PACOM Navy Command at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (JCZqz)
‘ This was always an irrational fear of mine..’
I went over this bridge when I was on a job interview. I remember thinking “Shit, I’d hate to drive off the side of this.”
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (s6L+y)
Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (Dnobf)
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Has anyone checked to see if this buoy has *adjusted* the temperature?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Rep. Ilhan-Ilhan Omar at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM
Hey! Leave me out of this, bitch!
Posted by: Boaty McBoatface at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (Wnv9h)
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But that's traditional. The FBI always announces that it wasn't terrorism minutes after any possible terrorist attack.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Ha. Yeah, that's kind of my point.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (Wg1x4)
But I see many years of "investigation," and billions upon billions of dollars being required to replace one little bridge.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:22 PM (TfEvu)
Posted by: ... at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (RDLZ/)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (B1FKF)
Could be a cyber attack. Or someone on board.
Override and autopilot. Perhaps the power was shut down to try to stop an override.
Dunno.
Could be sleepy people. Druggies. The JEF brigade (as Tulsi said that they will do anything to stay in power - emphasis on "anything.")
Could be DEI = Didn't Earn It hires.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (bZV5f)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Max Power at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM
Beau died on that bridge.
Posted by: huerfano at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (qeiBW)
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He was helping his father rescue people thrown in the water from the bridge.
Maybe we should rename the Medal of Honor to the "Biden Medal".
Posted by: Eeyore at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (1bNHn)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (pohLc)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (GBKbO)
They decided that they weren't going to use the money for actual construction, since that would employ "burly" white male construction workers, so they steered the money to governmental offices, which largely employ women, particularly minority women.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (YAtuc)
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Has anyone checked to see if this buoy has *adjusted* the temperature?
or, more importantly, whether it's a transbuoy.
Posted by: anachronda at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (v3pYe)
Billions will be directed to shore up Baltimore and Maryland's depleted budgets.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (TfEvu)
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:16 PM (wb1YC)
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"And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that you know -- the thing -- was still there!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (2F9za)
Posted by: Brant Fagan
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this is why I come here.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
Where else can you get your nits picked while you wait?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (IB/6k)
Perhaps this was just an accident.
But, "chaos is a ladder." And 90% of the Chaos is Democrat-made.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (QhfjI)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (Wg1x4)
They decided that they weren't going to use the money for actual construction, since that would employ "burly" white male construction workers, so they steered the money to governmental offices, which largely employ women, particularly minority women.
and signs. don't forget the signs that popped up all over the place.
Posted by: anachronda at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (v3pYe)
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The Paolo knows how to maneuver his vessel.
Posted by: paolo at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (2yu8s)
#40
But yeah between 1960 and 2015 there have been like 18 collisions between vessels/barges and bridges in the US. The Tampa collapse killed 35.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (lzI4r)
If potholes were part of the cause, Mayor Pete is just the "man" *cough* for the job.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Al Gore! at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (CsUN+)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: Kamala Wide Span at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (bZV5f)
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (EweFd)
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Al Gore! at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (YAtuc)
If potholes were part of the cause, Mayor Pete is just the "man" *cough* for the job.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:25 PM (vtRd1)
He' wasn't called pothole Pete for nothing
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (Akjoo)
Posted by: President Potatohead at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (jbnUc)
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There have been many, just not so spetacular.
A list of major US bridge collapses caused by ships and barges:
https://tinyurl.com/yc5jcpbh
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Piper at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (2UJ+q)
Did Vicky Nuland get a private gig in the shipping industry?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (TfEvu)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (bZV5f)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (XeU6L)
http://tiny.cc/gplkxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (6bTRc)
Could be a cyber attack. Or someone on board.
Override and autopilot. Perhaps the power was shut down to try to stop an override.
Dunno.
Could be sleepy people. Druggies. The JEF brigade (as Tulsi said that they will do anything to stay in power - emphasis on "anything.")
Could be DEI = Didn't Earn It hires.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Bideo i saw had a huge plume of black smoke roll off the back end after the first power outage.
Massive fire?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (IB/6k)
The whole Key Bridge (more than 1 mile long) has not collapsed. The Main Span (truss portion, 1200 feet long) collapsed. The approach portions on both sides are still fully intact. Seems as though the design held to an intended feature -- if the truss portion fails, it would not take down the whole bridge "system". The truss fell inward on itself, leaving the adjacent approach sections (relatively) unharmed.
One pillar has been lost - above water. Is it possible to just rebuild above there? This is likely an oversimplification, but rebuilding a pillar or 2, then adding an new 1200 foot section of truss seems like it shouldn't take years.
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (JunzL)
>>You know, since losing power will usually be disastrous, you might expect a ship like this would have a couple of automatic backup systems for critical systems, like steering.
Could have been defective O-Rings.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 26, 2024 12:27 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Azathoth
He is reportedly en route now.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:27 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: ace
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Disinformation Expert credentials -- REVOKED!
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Review Board at March 26, 2024 12:27 PM (7fElN)
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It's called an "anchor", and the boat reportedly dropped it just before the collision.
Posted by: junior at March 26, 2024 12:27 PM (aFC1o)
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (JunzL)
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"We'll make it take years."
-Baltimore politicians
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:27 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Mishdog at March 26, 2024 12:27 PM (nIok5)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (GBKbO)
That's all the need. Nightmare already.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2024 12:27 PM (bZV5f)
Posted by: anachronda
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The people in the office I was in at the time laughed about it because everyone, every single person, had to replace their windshield at least once while those signs were up from gravel being strewn all over the driving surface or bouncing out of dump trucks. It didn't matter if you weren't following too closely because the gravel would bounce into you from the oncoming lane.
One guy had his entire car repainted because multiple rocks peppered the hood, windshield, and roof.
It was a gold mine for car repair services and insurance companies looking to raise premiums.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (EweFd)
It was that malignant dwarf Robert Reich who convinced the Obama Administration not to do projects that would employ construction workers.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (YAtuc)
They decided that they weren't going to use the money for actual construction, since that would employ "burly" white male construction workers, so they steered the money to governmental offices, which largely employ women, particularly minority women.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (YAtuc)
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"Hey, h8r -- reparations be hard and expensive ... but mostly expensive, yo!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (2F9za)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Zeera , becoming ungovernable by choice at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (Uapen)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (iFTx/)
Good step by step analysis
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N39w6aQFKSQ
Posted by: Thinking of witty repartee at March 26, 2024 11:52 AM (fwvPp)
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (iODuv)
and common sense container ship control
Posted by: anachronda at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (v3pYe)
Massive fire?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (IB/6k)
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Husband said he thinks that when they got power back they tried to throttle back or throw it in reverse or whatever boats do.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (JunzL)
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Probably not, if engineering considerations alone are taken into account.
However, once the graft considerations are taken into account, this will take *years* if not *decades* to resolve and fix...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 26, 2024 12:29 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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They'll airbrush red hats on all the crew.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:29 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:29 PM (EweFd)
Posted by: Viton at March 26, 2024 12:29 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Azathoth
He is reportedly en route now.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:27 PM (CIS44)
Yeah. He'll make sure that all the rescue crews are appropriately diverse.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:29 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Archimedes
It's thought he did. Video shows a sharp right turn into the bridge. Kinda like how the Battleship Missouri made that right turn in the movie Battleship (2012).
Dropped anchor, it grabbed, and spun it into the bridge.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:30 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: ... at March 26, 2024 12:30 PM (RDLZ/)
Biden opened his third cabinet meeting by claiming that he excelled at administering the $862 billion in funds in 2009 — not mentioning that the legislation became infamous for “shovel ready” projects that actually were slow to start and the Solyndra scandal in which a politically connected solar panel maker got a $535 million loan guarantee, then went bust."
- Nov 2021
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:30 PM (wb1YC)
If you don't count anchors.
Posted by: Unknown Drip
An anchor isn't going to stop a ship of that size. An anchor chain with links the size of volkswagens is going to snap like a thread.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 26, 2024 12:30 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Azathoth
Old middle school joke....still getting his sh*t packed.....
Posted by: Mishdog at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (nIok5)
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The info I have is that the anchor was dropped before the collision. But apparently it wasn't dropped soon enough.
Posted by: junior at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (aFC1o)
Posted by: ... at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (RDLZ/)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (bZV5f)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (mupln)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (lzI4r)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (wb1YC)
Liberty International Underwriters (Liberty Mutual Insurance) is having a bad day today.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (TIizU)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I think that's Katerina Soria.
Joe Mannix's bringing the hot hosiery pics today!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Choo Choo Biden at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Bicyclist, Saving the planet at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (1PzR6)
Posted by: Wm. Shakespeare at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (vtRd1)
Massive fire?
Posted by: rickb223
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Win 11 update.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (EweFd)
Billions will be directed to shore up Baltimore and Maryland's depleted budgets.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:24 PM (TfEvu)
And to shore us up, to make huge kickbacks to Joe and his pals, along with additional donations to Democrats, by benefiting from no-bid contracts loaded with overtime, weekend time, and hazardous duty hours! Joe will demand he be able to cut the ribbon at the opening of the new bridge, no later than mid-October. Hang the expense!
Posted by: Construction Union Chapters within a hundred miles of Baltimore at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: Intercepted The Bulwark Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (JCZqz)
Not just once, but a couple times. So whatever disabled the ship was pretty severe. And apparently, totally unexpected.
Crew competence is also a factor. Not only for driving the ship, but maintenance too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 26, 2024
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Novelist Anne Tyler (The Accidental Tourist) is a native of B'more and might still be living in the area. Her novels are usually set there and make it seem charming indeed. But then she does not write crime novels or gritty, "realistic" fiction. Her Baltimore is more idealized, I think.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
Fast and the Furious: Baltimore Drift?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (e/Osv)
Posted by: Mayor of Baltimore at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (IB/6k)
We all know it's the fault of that guy who moved the Colts to Indianapolis.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Look, it wasn't me, okay?
Posted by: Viton
It's my guess that this joke will not be appreciated by most people.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (CsUN+)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
Pfft. It was just a little ice. Who's afraid of some ice?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (EweFd)
I laughed and I know I shouldn't have
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (Akjoo)
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It's called an "anchor", and the boat reportedly dropped it just before the collision.
An anchor is more like a parking brake. If all you have, you use it, but it's not intended to stop the vessel, only to hold it in position once it is stopped.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (sNc8Y)
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Amen. I feel for the families too. Just imagine the horrible loss of life had this been during the day. Plunging into the icy water trapped in your car has to be one of the scariest ways to have your life end.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (mupln)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (bZV5f)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (lzI4r)
-Baltimore politicians
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:27 PM (GBKbO)
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BREAKING: F. Joe Appointments Son Hunter as Baltimore Bridge Building Czar and Manager of Rebuilding Budget. Developing ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (d2dRs)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
Fast and the Furious: Baltimore Drift?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (xcxpd)
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It's about family.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Fast and the Furious: Baltimore Drift?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Golf clap.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (IB/6k)
Donald Trump can't even steer a boat under a bridge without hitting it. Why... when I was a young ensign, not many people know I was in the Navy, true story... I happened to be walking through the bridge on the nuclear submarine I was assigned to, well, the damn russkies has shot a torpedo at us and there was no hope for escape. It just so happened we were over an underwater canyon which I knew everything about because I did underwater mapping in the Navy Academy. Anyway I took control of the ship and dove us into the canyon. We ducked and weaved down the lane. At the end there was a sharp turn at a mount called "massive". I delayed the turn, the crew was about to mutiny! They shouted that we were out of the lane by a boat length! But at the last moment, I commanded full right rudder and starboard engine full reverse. Son of a bitch it worked! The torpedo missed us by feet! And I was hailed a hero by the crew, but I told everyone to keep quiet about it. True story!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (EweFd)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
Pfft. It was just a little ice. Who's afraid of some ice?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (vtRd1)
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I blame the time bandits! They asked for plenty of ice!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Max Power at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (q177U)
Watch this video.
https://tinyurl.com/adf9zxw6
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (iODuv)
Posted by: The Squad at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
*snort
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:35 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:35 PM (EweFd)
Posted by: ... at March 26, 2024 12:35 PM (RDLZ/)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (GBKbO)
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*snort*
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 26, 2024 12:36 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2024 12:36 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:36 PM (IB/6k)
Precisely which government agency is responsible for the bridge?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:13 PM (YAtuc)
Depends on where that asshole Bill Rawls is at.
*fires up fax machine*
Posted by: McNulty, Marine Unit BPD at March 26, 2024 12:36 PM (n+4am)
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That NOAA accidentally translated into 3,627° Centigrade in their annual report, skewing North America's average temperature readings for 2024 into hottest year ever in human history.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 26, 2024 12:36 PM (2yu8s)
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:36 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:36 PM (XeU6L)
An anchor isn't going to stop a ship of that size. An anchor chain with links the size of volkswagens is going to snap like a thread.
Perhaps, but anchors don't weld themselves to the sea bottom, they tend to drag along - kind of like how when traditional brakes are applied don't spike a vehicle to the tarmac.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (TfEvu)
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 26, 2024 12:34 PM (d2dRs)
After her incredible work solving the border crisis, nobody deserves this appointment more than Kamala.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: ... at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (RDLZ/)
http://tiny.cc/8qlkxz
Posted by: bonhomme at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (Odg76)
http://tiny.cc/gplkxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (6bTRc)
Nooo, graffiti on both arms, why?
Posted by: spindrift at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (OguvZ)
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As the anchor drags along the ground, it will slow the ship. It's not an optimal solution, but it will work in an emergency, and assuming the anchor chain is longer than the water is deep.
Posted by: junior at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (aFC1o)
Posted by: It's Always Something at March 26, 2024 12:38 PM (V5BDR)
He can crib from the Fact Checkers on X who just yesterday were SEC finance experts and the day before were real-estate lawyers and land appraisers and the day before that were experts on rail safety.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:38 PM (TfEvu)
Posted by: junior
That's what she said!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:38 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: Joe the Hero (again!) at March 26, 2024 12:14 PM (5fDan)
Confirmed. I was there.
Posted by: Brian Williams at March 26, 2024 12:39 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:39 PM (mPuaa)
Good step by step analysis
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N39w6aQFKSQ
Posted by: Thinking of witty repartee at March 26, 2024 11:52 AM (fwvPp)
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at March 26, 2024 12:28 PM (iODuv)
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Ahh, now I understand. The ship was supposed to go UNDER the bridge. (It doesn't look like it would fit under the bridge, but whatevs.) What happened was the ship veered off from its path that would have taken it under the middle part of the bridge, and ended up hitting a pillar.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 26, 2024 12:39 PM (iFTx/)
Lemme check.
*unzips pants*
Posted by: Black Guy #2 at March 26, 2024 12:39 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: spindrift
Shit. I missed those the first time. Instant disqualification.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:39 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:39 PM (lzI4r)
The whole Key Bridge (more than 1 mile long) has not collapsed. The Main Span (truss portion, 1200 feet long) collapsed. The approach portions on both sides are still fully intact. Seems as though the design held to an intended feature -- if the truss portion fails, it would not take down the whole bridge "system". The truss fell inward on itself, leaving the adjacent approach sections (relatively) unharmed.
One pillar has been lost - above water. Is it possible to just rebuild above there? This is likely an oversimplification, but rebuilding a pillar or 2, then adding an new 1200 foot section of truss seems like it shouldn't take years.
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (JunzL)
Depends on the design specs based on X number of EV cars and trucks, with their heavy batteries, stalled on the bridge.
That will be the largest 'live load' the bridge must support.
Posted by: Construction Union Chapters within a hundred miles of Baltimore at March 26, 2024 12:39 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: The Squad
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Iceberg!
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 26, 2024 12:39 PM (2yu8s)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 26, 2024 12:40 PM (z+89e)
Spread a rumor that the bridge was made of copper?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:40 PM (TfEvu)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 26, 2024 12:40 PM (RDLZ/)
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Shit. I missed those the first time. Instant disqualification.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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And stupid looking jailhouse style tattoos at that. Put one here! Put another one here! Yeah! That looks great!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:41 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: Max Power at March 26, 2024 12:23 PM (q177U)
The bridge had it's high beams on.*
*I denounce myself
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:41 PM (mPuaa)
Maryland Governor Wes Moore says the bridge will be rebuilt "in a way that remembers the people this tragedy has impacted, and honours the community it serves"
Yep, whoever had Freddie Grey Memorial Bridge called it.
Posted by: bed head at March 26, 2024 12:41 PM (Y1sOo)
http://tiny.cc/gplkxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (6bTRc)
Nice, but I find the product placement offensive.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:41 PM (vtRd1)
Yep, whoever had Freddie Grey Memorial Bridge called it.
Posted by: bed head
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IIRC Baltimore is 70% or so black, so yeah.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:41 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (pohLc)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (XeU6L)
Where were the tugs?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:04 PM (lzI4r)
If you have the time, mosey on over to eng-tips.com and look for the "Engineering Failures and Disasters" sub-forum. One of the forum members has a tug boat background, and he stated that there’s not much a tug boat can do if the ship is going faster than 6 knots.
Ship tracking showed that the ship was going 8.5 knots when the power failed, and was at 7.5 knots just before impact.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 26, 2024 12:09 PM (9mfKN)
Then what's the point of having tugs at all? or were the retards going too fcking fast for their location and size?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (llON8)
I am much more forgiving of ink than some of my brethren here. What's a little hepatitis?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (mPuaa)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (9yWhg)
>>Vince Young gets sucker punched by a little skinny dude and goes down like the FSK bridge.
Well, sometimes you get hit on the button and it's lights out.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (XV/Pl)
There's at least one on her left leg too. It's near her ankle.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (Odg76)
WTF does that mean ?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)
Nooo, graffiti on both arms, why?
Posted by: spindrift at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (OguvZ)
It's an easy way to indicate "she does butt stuff".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: fd at March 26, 2024 12:43 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:43 PM (lzI4r)
WTF does that mean ?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)
Money, Donna. Money and grift.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:43 PM (mPuaa)
The Pugh-Cummings Graft Sluiceway
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2024 12:43 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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Kinetic energy is a harsh mistress.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:43 PM (XeU6L)
If sabotage was a factor - and I doubt it was - then it wasn't targeting the bridge and was more likely some disgruntled employee trying to stick it to his employer by fucking up the ship.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:21 PM (6bTRc)
Disagree. Huge ships like that move at a very predictable pace. And there are tides involved, too. If you know that it normally takes 40 minutes for such a ship to transit the bridge site on an outgoing tide, after leaving the dock, you arrange for the engines to fail at the 32 minute mark, and the ship drifts, helpless, with the tide into the pier.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2024 12:43 PM (tkR6S)
WTF does that mean ?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM
Shoddy design, high af, nice wide span to give plenty of space to destroy, and named after Freddie Gray.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 26, 2024 12:44 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 26, 2024 12:44 PM (2fIO4)
WTF does that mean ?
They are gonna hire the same sculptor who made the MLK schlong statue.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:44 PM (EweFd)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2024 12:43 PM (0FoWg)
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LOL
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 26, 2024 12:44 PM (DRSnL)
Dropped like the prom queen's bloomers.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:44 PM (IB/6k)
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It doesn't matter what you rename the bridge. Nobody in the city has the literacy level to spell it.
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:44 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (mupln)
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Reminds me of the Oakland Cypress (Double-Decker) Freeway collapse during the '89 earthquake at what would normally have been rush hour (a few minutes after 5:00 p.m. on a weekday) -- but had significantly less traffic that day because tens of thousands of baseball fans either took the day off or (like me) had left work early and were home in anticipation of watch the World Series game between the San Francisco Giants and Oakland Athletics.
Wild.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 26, 2024 12:44 PM (d2dRs)
Yep. It's a good reminder not to go to stupid places with stupid people. It doesn't matter how tough and big you are, a little skinny dude can pop you in the face out of nowhere and down you go.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 26, 2024 12:45 PM (Odg76)
I am much more forgiving of ink than some of my brethren here. What's a little hepatitis?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Stunning woman otherwise. As the wise Armenian Kim Kardashian once said, "You don't put a bumper sticker on a Bentley."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:45 PM (9yWhg)
Massive fire?
Looked like a diesel engine at full throttle.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2024 12:45 PM (2ocoG)
As far as the cars go, BMW and VW recently relocated their docks to the bay side of the bridge. They should be ok. Coal is fucked though.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at March 26, 2024 12:45 PM (IGKzA)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 26, 2024 12:45 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2024 12:43 PM (tkR6S)
++++
But it would have to cut out at *precisely* the right moment. The pillar is not a large target, and real-world variables are far from perfect - not to mention the apparent attempted response, power-on, power-off cycle, etc.
I don't buy it as terrorism.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:46 PM (6bTRc)
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AIS shows about 6-8 ships "behind" the bridge. No idea if they're due to leave now, or had arrived and will leave later.
Smaller vessels, like fishing boats could still get out by going around the damaged bridge, but no idea if they are allowed to do so.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 26, 2024 12:46 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 26, 2024 12:46 PM (N39Ws)
http://tiny.cc/8qlkxz
Posted by: bonhomme at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (Odg76)
Jamarcus Russel > Vince Young
Vince always wanted too much money.
Posted by: Nick Saban, Got Out While The Getting Was Good at March 26, 2024 12:46 PM (9KyZG)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:46 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (Akjoo)
Posted by: Max Power at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:46 PM (6bTRc)
I wonder how many times 'FUCK!!!!' was uttered on that ship about 5 mins before hitting?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (mPuaa)
WTF does that mean ?
The replacement will not be a practical bridge, it will be a profoundly expensive rainbow artistic monument to the martyred saints Who Built This Country. It will require Baltimore and Maryland officials to fly around the globe observing the greatest bridges; then the interviews of every LGBT+ Black Women Owned business that allegedly can supply an inspirational Post Modern interpretation of a bridge.
Then the hustle with Babylon DC to get funding to pay Asylum Seekers to slap something together.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (TfEvu)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (lzI4r)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (Akjoo)
Makes things simple.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (mPuaa)
WTF does that mean ?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (Akjoo)
Translation: The Didn't Earn It Bridge
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (RDLZ/)
Posted by: Kimberly at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (wt+qN)
This is going to effect the entire country especially the east coast.
Posted by: polynikes at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (MNhXM)
Black
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 26, 2024 12:19 PM (bZV5f)
cygnet ;P
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (llON8)
WTF does that mean ?
It means that only minority- and women-owned firms will be allowed to rebuild the bridge.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: Disaster Watch at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (Bz+20)
WTF does that mean ?
***
It means that before it's over the mayor of Baltimore is going to have a house on Gibson Island.
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (EweFd)
HA! All that surgery to get camera ready for nothing.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (Odg76)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (9yWhg)
LOL! Coincidentally (??) -- the 40th anniversary of that is in 2 days.
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (JunzL)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (lzI4r)
I was thinking about that, but that much mass moving at any speed is an insane amount of energy. I am not sure you COULD make a structure that would be able to withstand a direct hit. You know, feasibly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (mPuaa)
>>I wonder how many times 'FUCK!!!!' was uttered on that ship about 5 mins before hitting?
Every usage permutation of that word was probably uttered a couple a hundred times, in multiple languages.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:49 PM (EweFd)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I think that's Katerina Soria.
Joe Mannix's bringing the hot hosiery pics today!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
What about in a bikini with darker hair? Leaves less to the imagination...if you're into that. https://tinyurl.com/3hxjxvmf
Never heard of Katerina Soria before, but she has a lot of nice images out there.
Posted by: Donating to Nikki Haley campaign to further conservative governance at March 26, 2024 12:49 PM (JCZqz)
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I hope she ends up giving substandard hand jobs under an overpass to make ends meet.
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:49 PM (wb1YC)
Maryland Governor Wes Moore says the bridge will be rebuilt "in a way that remembers the people this tragedy has impacted, and honours the community it serves"
+++
You have got to be kidding me. This is the first thing that they think of? Un f'ing believable.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 26, 2024 12:49 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (W3T6M)
WTF does that mean ?
Stick a statue of Saint Floyd at the approaches and call it a day.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (mPuaa)
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My thoughts, as well.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (DRSnL)
Maryland Governor Wes Moore says the bridge will be rebuilt "in a way that remembers the people this tragedy has impacted, and honours the community it serves"
Yep, whoever had Freddie Grey Memorial Bridge called it.
Posted by: bed head at March 26, 2024 12:41 PM (Y1sOo)
I was disgusted by the performances of the MD Gov and the Baltimore Mayor during the press conference several hours ago. Preaching that they are going to be there to help the community recover and 'be strong,' yada yada yada. They were essentially pandering for votes (as if they need to in MD and Baltimore, but politicians pander for votes at every public speaking episode). Yeah, sure. Will they be directing traffic at detours away from the bridge? Will they be handing-out water to drivers stalled on the detour routes this summer?
Posted by: Gref at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (YAtuc)
LOL
Yikes.
The Yo Mamma Bridge
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (ufFY8)
But from that video, I don't think any amount of maintenance would have stopped this. It blasted it to flinders like a balsa wood model.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:49 PM
Why do you hate us?
Posted by: Bridge Hobos and Trolls at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 26, 2024 12:46 PM (Q4IgG)
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Probably not until they get the "all clear" from authorities. There might be any number of hidden hazards in the surrounding waters...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (7fElN)
I don't buy it as terrorism.
Me neither. As others have noted, failures on foreign owned and maintained ships aren't unheard of, and getting in and out of the harbor is probably the most stressful part of the trip for the ship's control systems. That's when "oh, that fuse always blows, we replaced it with a nail" rears its head.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (2ocoG)
Massive fire?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:26 PM (IB/6k)
Might just be they got the main Diesel engine restarted, and put it in reverse gear, and opened the throttle wide open. Diesels often put out a plume of black smoke when working hard under load.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2024 12:50 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (s6L+y)
Posted by: Azathoth at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (wb1YC)
That's that song from Jay Ferguson, right?
Sing it like a true Baltimoron "out on Gibson AAAHHLIND"
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (JunzL)
>>You have got to be kidding me. This is the first thing that they think of? Un f'ing believable.
Because, to a Marxist, nothing is tragedy, and everything is opportunity.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (XV/Pl)
First thing he said is HE went over that bridge many times.
More importantly, Beau went over that bridge many times.
The "Beau Biden Memorial Bridge" has a nice ring to it, don't you think?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (Akjoo)
Guessing they don't want to become a "political" network. Gotta keep it honest.
Posted by: ... at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (RDLZ/)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Probably, but control system design flaw is always possible.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (XeU6L)
His Secretary of Transportation is on the scene. Leave it to Secy Buttijuice - no port of entry will remain untouched on his watch.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:46 PM (Wg1x4)
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Same. And although the post refers to a "skinny white kid," it looks more like a muscular white kid who seems to know how to throw a punch. It was a short, compact punch of someone who knows what he's doing, as opposed to the lunging haymakers that you usually see in barroom brawls.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (s6L+y)
How many cases of Natty Boh were on board the ship?
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (JunzL)
Posted by: davidt at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (SYTee)
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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Kinetic energy is a harsh mistress.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:43 PM (XeU6L)
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Inertia is racist.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (8IQBN)
First thing he said is HE went over that bridge many times.
Is that where he got oil cancer ?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (Akjoo)
Amphibious assault ship USS Boxer is still unfit for deployment.
Apparently they ran one of their main reduction gears for an hour with no lubrication. It was a lowly seaman who discovered the error. And the ship's ChEng decided to hide the event from the captain for over a day.
The US Navy is not what it used to be.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (lzI4r)
WTF does that mean ?
It means nothing. He's a Democrat that's their strength.
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (NkT52)
The Maryland Democrat Party considers it a major disaster that Larry Hogan was elected and served 2 terms, and that's fresh in their minds so I'm sure they're doing everything they can to avoid it happening again.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Done told that bridge twiced at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (Wg1x4)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (Akjoo)
No one is more relieved than the accountant who would have had to sign off on her expenses.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (z+89e)
>>Probably not until they get the "all clear" from authorities. There might be any number of hidden hazards in the surrounding waters...
It's also going to be a recovery operation for at least a couple of weeks.
So no movement other than rescue/recovery ships will be permitted anywhere near the bridge
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (lzI4r)
I was thinking about that, but that much mass moving at any speed is an insane amount of energy. I am not sure you COULD make a structure that would be able to withstand a direct hit. You know, feasibly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (mPuaa)
This was a case of unstoppable force meeting a not-immovable wall.
Posted by: Gref at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: Doof
Man I drank A LOT of those the one time I visited B'More.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I don't think a bridge could be built that would withstand 100,000 tons of ship hitting a support.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Montec at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (lzI4r)
Well of course not, I am not there to lead the way
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (pVWRI)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (ufFY
What a crock. Going over the Key Bridge to get between DC and Wilmington is way out of the way.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (IGKzA)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 26, 2024 12:42 PM (llON
Tugs only required to get the ship in the channel. Once it was in the channel it was under its own power and subject to the direction of the harbor pilot.
Someone up above already said it, but that pilot is going to be spending a LOT of "personal time" with NTSB.
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (e/Osv)
Substandard, in this case, would be... well pointless.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (mPuaa)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (mPuaa)
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If you're a ship captain and you utter the words "brace for impact" you know you are f'ed.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (2fIO4)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Probably the pilot. But if it was a system failure (likely), there will be finger pointing, with no clear personal responsibility.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 26, 2024 12:48 PM (ufFY
Remember when Neil Armstrong died and the WH released a picture of Obama looking at the moon???
Posted by: ... at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (RDLZ/)
Mushmouth really wants to pay for ALL if the rebuilding of the bridge.
And, the fucker never said "God bless America", because he is a Demented, Idiotic Fucking godless Commie.
Sigh.
I feel better now.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (lTGtQ)
We'll allocate $50B to it anyway.
- Congress
Posted by: Montec at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: spindrift at March 26, 2024
*
It's an easy way to indicate "she does butt stuff".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 26, 2024
***
Aka "tramp stamp"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Brass at March 26, 2024 12:54 PM (Bd4ZM)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:54 PM (lzI4r)
>>I don't think a bridge could be built that would withstand 100,000 tons of ship hitting a support.
Obviously you could, but it would be impractical and wildly expensive for no discernible benefit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (XV/Pl)
I'm reading Toll's three volume history of the Pacific War.
Can only imagine what they would have done to a naval officer who pulled that stunt back then.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: Brass at March 26, 2024 12:54 PM (Bd4ZM)
$2B minimum. With $200M going to the big guy of course.
Posted by: Montec at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (bWsRe)
- Congress
Posted by: Montec at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (bWsRe)
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I'm gonna need that much just to study the problem.
Fortunately, I work at a STEM university chock full of civil and structural engineers who will get right on it!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
The captain had no operational control over that ship at that point. That was handled by harbor pilots brought onboard to guide the ship in and out.
Worked with a lady whose husband was one of the pilot boat captains out of Galveston for the Houston ship channel.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 26, 2024 12:51 PM (s6L+y)
If a maint. problem this is true. However it was a port pilot driving the ship.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (pohLc)
First thing he said is HE went over that bridge many times.
Biden's go-to in response to a tragedy is to make it about him. Usually it's via Beau, but he's skipped the middleman before.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2024 12:32 PM (EweFd)
I laughed and I know I shouldn't have
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:33 PM (Akjoo)
It was scary!!!
Posted by: Madison Cornbread at March 26, 2024 12:56 PM (llON8)
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Posted by: Montec at March 26, 2024 12:56 PM (bWsRe)
I'm reading Toll's three volume history of the Pacific War.
Can only imagine what they would have done to a naval officer who pulled that stunt back then.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (YAtuc)
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Flogging would have been the least of that engineer's problems...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 26, 2024 12:56 PM (7fElN)
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Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2024 12:56 PM (0FoWg)
First thing he said is HE went over that bridge many times.
Biden's go-to in response to a tragedy is to make it about him. Usually it's via Beau, but he's skipped the middleman before.
Posted by: Ian S. at
Just be glad he didnt talk about the time HE had a bridge collapse.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 26, 2024 12:56 PM (CIS44)
>>What a crock. Going over the Key Bridge to get between DC and Wilmington is way out of the way.
Wait a minute, I thought he travelled a million miles on Amtrak, how is also driving hundreds of miles out of his way to go over this bridge?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 26, 2024 12:56 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2024 12:57 PM (41CYW)
-- President Potatohead
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:57 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 26, 2024 12:57 PM (pohLc)
Posted by: Montec at March 26, 2024 12:56 PM (bWsRe)
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Only one?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting zombies with George A. Romero at March 26, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: 29Victor at March 26, 2024 12:57 PM (M+gBW)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
Red Shirts up!
(Apologies to Star Wars & Captain Kirk)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:57 PM (IB/6k)
-- President Potatohead
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 12:58 PM (vtRd1)
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I really hope we're not going to need a major war to get rid of this sort of crap.
I also hope the lowly seaman who discovered the problem wasn't thrown to the wolves.
Posted by: junior at March 26, 2024 12:58 PM (aFC1o)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 26, 2024 12:47 PM (Akjoo)
And the left have absolutely no self awareness of their cognitive dissonance . Waiting for George Stephanopoulus to chime in .
Posted by: polynikes at March 26, 2024 12:58 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Thomas Paine
I posted excerpts from a DU thread discussing "fenders" for the bridge. That was dumb, but a few commenters mentioned something called "dolphins" that are used for large bridges successfully...I'm guessing they mostly deflect ship strikes instead of completely stopping them. Here's an image: https://tinyurl.com/5k53vjx4
Of course, they're designed to deflect from the expected direction of approach, and this ship hit the column from the rear quarter, so even this thing probably wouldn't help.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 26, 2024 12:58 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Smell the Glove
The captain had no operational control over that ship at that point. That was handled by harbor pilots brought onboard to guide the ship in and out.
Worked with a lady whose husband was one of the pilot boat captains out of Galveston for the Houston ship channel.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (IB/6k)
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If we don't know the identities of the harbor pilots in the next 12 hours, then we can be sure they were DEI hires. Although, based on what we know so far, it looks like catastrophic power failure so I don't know what any pilot could have done.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 26, 2024 12:58 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Montec at March 26, 2024 12:56 PM (bWsRe)
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Only one?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
He died six times.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:58 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: wth at March 26, 2024 12:58 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Brass at March 26, 2024 12:54 PM (Bd4ZM)
Again - that was the whole bridge "system" - including the over-water approaches to the main span. Those don't need rebuilding.
Pillars (vertical) can be reused sometimes. Piers (horizontal) not so much.
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 12:59 PM (JunzL)
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Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:59 PM (lzI4r)
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Posted by: Brandon at March 26, 2024 12:59 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (mPuaa)
So I was out on the pool deck with Doctor Jill. We took off our clothes but wouldn't you know it, the bridge stayed collapsed, if you know what I mean. Fortunately one of the Secret Service agents had some Viagra. Really saved the day, and that's no malarkey!
Posted by: Boe Jiden at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (XKNhI)
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 26, 2024 12:58 PM (iFTx/)
We told you assholes electricity is racist, didn't we?
Posted by: DEI Industry at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (2yu8s)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (9yWhg)
Leo DiCaprio is listed as missing.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (vtRd1)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (lzI4r)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (zdLoL)
Worked with a lady whose husband was one of the pilot boat captains out of Galveston for the Houston ship channel.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 12:55 PM (IB/6k)
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YouTube guy says the harbor pilots are there in an advisory capacity only. The captain (he used the term "ship's master") still has full control of the ship.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (2fIO4)
Posted by: ... at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (RDLZ/)
-+++++++-
LOL.
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (8IQBN)
Posted by: davidt
I'll bet it was that same a-hole otter who was stealing surf boards in Cali. Snuck into the Atlantic incognito.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (DRSnL)
http://tiny.cc/8qlkxz
Posted by: bonhomme at March 26, 2024 12:37 PM (Odg76)
..."shot bar"?....sounds like a place to avoid.
Posted by: BignJames at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Chewy! Eject the warp core!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: Montec at March 26, 2024 12:59 PM (bWsRe)
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Well, they are also legal, asset valuation, and constitutional experts for the Trump hearings. These are very very smart people.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (iFTx/)
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But, but, empowering women!!!
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (lf83v)
The story I saw said it was a Sri Lankan owned and maintained ship that Maersk had hired.
Posted by: Boe Jiden at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (fKIdX)
Posted by: pawn
Well they sure as hell couldn't do it at night. The light they needed was gone due to the previous lamp poles being stolen.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: Montec at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 26, 2024 01:00 PM (7fElN)
Reverse the polarity on the Heisenberg compensators.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (mPuaa)
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (2yu8s)
Posted by: wth at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
Then they've changed the way they used to do it.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (IB/6k)
Posted by: Boe Jiden
It's not gonna ceyl on to Sri Lanka now.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: davidt at March 26, 2024 12:59 PM
*shifty eyes*
No. Why? What have you heard?
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: The River Otters at March 26, 2024 01:04 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at March 26, 2024 12:53 PM (IGKzA)
Not "way" out of the way. Typically 20-30 minutes longer than taking the Ft. McHenry tunnel (I-95) or Harbor Tunnel (I-895). Sometimes the tunnels are quite backed up with traffic. The Key Bridge was always a decent and somewhat scenic alternative to the tunnels.
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2024 01:04 PM (JunzL)
No way I'd tempt fate and test passage. And no commercial enterprise would allow it because of both personnel and legal risk.
Yeah, this is going to be a costly accident. The bridge itself is only part of the losses.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 26, 2024 01:04 PM (aXxgO)
Posted by: Stan Tookie Williams at March 26, 2024 01:05 PM (Zz86T)
By the dawn's early light
The foreign ships power it failed,
took the bridge out while careening.
Posted by: Francis Scott Key at March 26, 2024 01:06 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2024 01:02 PM (IB/6k)
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The YT channel is "What is Going on With Shipping".
I don't know anything personally about the procedures.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 26, 2024 01:06 PM (2fIO4)
Remember when Neil Armstrong died and the WH released a picture of Obama looking at the moon???
Posted by: ...
The not so hidden figure.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2024 01:07 PM (63Dwl)
I don't buy it as terrorism.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 26, 2024 12:46 PM (6bTRc)
If the ship loses power, it will swing crossways to the current, and drift with it. It's long enough, that if it misses one tower, it will hit the other. You don't have to be that precise with timing it. The object of the exercise is to fuck up the harbor, after all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2024 01:07 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 26, 2024 01:07 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: Libtards at March 26, 2024 01:09 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 26, 2024 01:01 PM (2fIO4)
Yeah. I heard the What's Going On With Shipping? guy say that the captain is always, ultimately responsible for the trip, even if the harbor pilot is there. The was a week ago I heard this.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 26, 2024 01:11 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2024 01:12 PM (vsQ70)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 26, 2024 01:16 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 26, 2024 12:56 PM (0FoWg)
Fuck all the pilot can do if the engine fails, and the vessel does not answer to the wheel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2024 01:16 PM (tkR6S)
Posted by: Montec
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Leave me out of this .
Posted by: Charles Goren at March 26, 2024 01:17 PM (XeU6L)
"Massive Container Ship"
It's actually a pipsqueak compared to some of Goliaths that are out there.
Posted by: Potato Of The United States at March 26, 2024 01:17 PM (t6XCL)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 26, 2024 01:18 PM (vsQ70)
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According to state law, a pilot brings the ship in, but it doesn't say if they pilot it out.
https://tinyurl.com/32wpx2vx
Posted by: Kimberly at March 26, 2024 01:18 PM (wt+qN)
The ship is named after the artis Salvador Dalí.
Posted by: Potato Of The United States at March 26, 2024 01:24 PM (t6XCL)
In terms of the Baltimore port facilities, the vast majority of those are blocked behind the wreck of the bridge -- in particular, the Dundalk container terminals. There's the Sparrows Point complex just outside of the bridge, but that is mostly distribution centers for goods coming in through the container terminal, or being stored before going into containers. I understand there's some berthing there, and a maintenance shipyard & drydock, but it isn't a replacement. And AFAIK all of the very active coal and LNG terminals are also behind the bridge.
So it's a catastrophe. Baltimore is even more screwed that it was already.
Posted by: Stu-22 at March 26, 2024 01:28 PM (S5cMc)
The ship is named after the artis Salvador Dalí.
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Well...the bridge is now a surrealist modern art exhibit of sorts.
Posted by: Stu-22 at March 26, 2024 01:30 PM (S5cMc)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2024 12:52 PM (lzI4r)
In my day someone in that engine room would be court-martialed.
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Posted by: scottst at March 26, 2024 01:43 PM (JviSl)
FIGG Bridge Group (motto: Building Bridges as Art) was the responsible party for the FIU bridge.
FIGG F.I.G.G
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