The Open Border Means Crime Without Borders

Indeed. We're back to the days of Pancho Villa conducting armed raids into the US.

The Many Ways a Porous Border Means Crime Without Boundaries
By James Varney & Abigail Degnan, RealClearInvestigations

When President Biden's supporters attacked him for describing the man who allegedly murdered Georgia co-ed Laken Reilly as an "illegal," they shined a light on one of the most contested words in American politics.
The progressive push to describe border crossers as undocumented or unauthorized can also serve to downplay and obscure the massive issue of crime perpetrated and spawned by the influx of millions of migrants since Biden was elected -- often in ways that leave the migrants themselves as victims.
While migrant advocates argue that illegal arrivals commit crimes at lower rates than Americans, the claim is unverifiable because the federal government and most states do not break down crimes by immigration status.
Criminologists also note that it ignores the vast web of statutory crimes concurrent with illegal immigration -- drug smuggling, human trafficking, child labor violations, prostitution, the black market in employment, and so on.
What remains undeniable by the law of averages is that the massive surge in immigration since the Biden administration relaxed border policies -- a surge that it puts at more than 4 million people, but other sources millions more -- has been accompanied by much more crime, however unquantifiable.
Millions of migrants, though not all, run afoul of laws by their situation more than by overtly malign criminal intent. But their first step across the border is a lawbreaking one, and it is often followed by life on the law's margins: living in the U.S. without insurance or proper work papers, providing illicit labor for unscrupulous or blasé employers, turning to black markets for counterfeit Social Security cards, and often becoming targets for robbers or extortionists. Their desire to come to America creates a vast pool of criminality involving them or those illegally profiting from them.
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"Even people who may come here with no criminal intent at all may find themselves involved in some sort of criminal activity because the cartels that control the immigration channels are going to get their money one way or another," said Ira Mehlman, media director for the Federation of American Immigration Reform, which seeks policies to seal the border from illegal penetrations. "Going to work for the cartels is one way they can pay off their debts. Others may find themselves pressed into indentured servitude or, even worse, being trafficked in the sex trades."

Thanks to Biden inviting illegal aliens to flood the border, massive amounts of crime and victimization begin in the cartel-organized caravans.

"It's not all about killings -- they are getting raped and robbed, too," Bensman said. "There are loan sharks who let victims know they know where family members are located -- that's a crime. And people are desperate, they are forced to steal food, there have been assaults on police, and recently a camp in Panama was burned down."
Criminologists say part of the problem in measuring migrant-related crime in the United States is "sanctuary" jurisdictions that do not cooperate with federal immigration agencies. Sanctuary enforcement is also not a category traditionally tracked by law enforcement agencies. Nowrasteh said that several years ago he sent Freedom of Information Act requests to all 50 states seeking data on crime committed by or on immigrants and only Texas offered a response. Since then, he believes, Georgia has begun amassing statistics, but the state has not yet issued any public reports.
Grim arithmetic suggests the human costs of the unprecedented tide of illegal immigration under Biden, according to multiple reports and congressional testimony. A case in point is the hundreds of thousands of "unaccompanied alien children," the innocuous-sounding phrase employed by a bureaucracy focused on avoiding the use of "illegals" who are newly arrived in the Biden years. Their oversight and handling has been mishandled, unintentionally or otherwise, by federal agencies, with the results of minors being trafficked and U.S. child labor laws being violated.
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RealClearInvestigations has reported that many of the drug dealers who have turned San Francisco's Tenderloin district into an open-air drug market are migrants connected to Mexico's Sinaloa cartel. "The drug pushers are easy to spot: Unlike the users, they look healthy and wear clean clothes," Leighton Woodhouse reported. "They're almost universally young men, mostly Honduran (on the streets of San Francisco they're called "Hondos")."
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Other Americans fall victim to crime connected to migration. For example, seizures of fentanyl, the synthetic painkiller the Centers for Disease Control blamed for a record 112,000 overdose deaths in 2023, have skyrocketed. In 2021, law enforcement agencies seized some 11.2 thousand pounds of the lethal drug, but in just two years the Chinese-abetted trade through Mexico has more than doubled, hitting 27,000 pounds last year, according to Customs and Border Patrol figures. Some immigration and drug experts believe the vast numbers of people crossing the border make it harder to interdict the flow of narcotics into the U.S.

The article explores the left's claim that US citzens commit crimes at rates 2 to 2 1/2 times higher than illegal aliens. But the article notes that jurisdictions simply do not collect data on immigration status of offenders, making all of this guesswork. And further, the article repeatedly notes the huge amount of subterranean crime -- huge numbers of migrant children impressed into prostitution -- that simply never make it into the statistics.

Of course, all of this argumentation avoids the real issue: The correct number of crimes committed by illegal aliens in the US should be zero. They should not fucking be here. It wouldn't matter if they committed murder at 50% the rate of US citizens: We are forced to abide the presence of US citizen criminals. The US does not permit exile or deportation of criminals.

But we are not required to abide the presence of illegal aliens.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:23 PM

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1 SPONGE!

Posted by: Inogame at March 29, 2024 05:22 PM (53oGX)

2 yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 29, 2024 05:23 PM (R4t5M)

3 There very PRESENCE here is a crime

Posted by: steevy at March 29, 2024 05:24 PM (FQmDC)

4 I've never posted "Sponge" before the article posted before... instead of first is that Negative 1st?

Posted by: Inogame at March 29, 2024 05:25 PM (53oGX)

5 But we are not required to abide the presence of illegal aliens.

Ahem.

Posted by: Newcomers at March 29, 2024 05:25 PM (aD39U)

6 SIXTH

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 05:27 PM (8sMut)

7 The day we stop calling people who enter the country illegally "migrants" is the day I have hope of us being a serious country again.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 05:28 PM (8sMut)

8 There very PRESENCE here is a crime
Posted by: steevy at March 29, 2024 05:24 PM (FQmDC)
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As Joe Mannix has said many times, every crime they commit on American soil beyond the first (crossing the border illegally) are *surplus* crimes that could be avoided if we had a secure border.

Nearly all of that is laid at the feet of FJB, his junta, and any Democrat/Republican collaborators that have aided and abetted this invasion for the past few decades.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 29, 2024 05:28 PM (BpYfr)

9 Justice without a politicized judiciary > Crime Without Borders

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 05:28 PM (W/lyH)

10 See every few weeks local reports of illegals crime gangs preying on homes or businesses

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2024 05:29 PM (fwDg9)

11 Yoooooooooo

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at March 29, 2024 05:29 PM (eQRY8)

12 I wish there was a way we could keep the illegal alien crime confined to deep blue cities, maybe then they would change the way they vote.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 29, 2024 05:29 PM (QNSds)

13 Nobody is being forced to abide illegal immigration. It's legal. The Party said so. The Party's word is law.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 29, 2024 05:30 PM (0FoWg)

14 We need a moose.
To stay out front and tell people.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 29, 2024 05:31 PM (TirNb)

15 If there was only a way to keep these illegals out and deport them.

If.
Only.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at March 29, 2024 05:31 PM (eQRY8)

16 Every crime that an illegal commits is one more crime that the justice system has to handle.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 29, 2024 05:31 PM (++4z6)

17 Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 29, 2024 05:31 PM (++4z6)

I was gonna say treason.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at March 29, 2024 05:32 PM (eQRY8)

18 well, shit...

@RealJamesWoods 7h
I loved Lou. We did The Choirboys in an ensemble, and then later starred together in Diggstown. That experience cemented a lifelong friendship. I had always admired his fabulous talent, but grew to admire his modest demeanor more. A true gentleman. #RIP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 29, 2024 05:32 PM (IG4Id)

19 Enforcement Without Police > Crime Without Borders

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 05:32 PM (W/lyH)

20 If there was only a way to keep these illegals out and deport them.

A group of people could do it, but it would to large, on the order of a political party.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 29, 2024 05:32 PM (aD39U)

21 Good. I wish the illegales well and hope their crime spree is very fruitful and brings them many a peso.

Pancho was a bandit boy
His horse was fast as polished steel
He wore his gun outside his pants
For all the honest world to feel
Pancho met his match you see
In the subways of NYC
Nobody heard his dying words
Ah but that's the way it goes...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 29, 2024 05:33 PM (R/m4+)

22 We need a moose.
To stay out front and tell people.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 29, 2024 05:31 PM (TirNb)
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The Canadians might be upset if we start poaching their moose to patrol the southern border.

Do we have enough American moose to do the job?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 29, 2024 05:33 PM (BpYfr)

23 Ya know what? Mexico is a failed state, and it's running out of men. All us normies should just illegally migrate South, put down the cartels, take the country as our own by force, and leave this shithole to rot.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 29, 2024 05:33 PM (0FoWg)

24 1) wall off the border, forcing people to report to these things called "ports of entry".
2) Don't have a passport? Too bad.
3) We have, what, 11 consulates in Mexico alone you can visit, and an embassy, before crossing the border. Stop by there, or the embassy in your own country, and see if you qualify.
4) Exit visas. Not only does CBP find out when you come here, they find out when you leave so you don't overstay your visa.
5) severely punish employers who employ people with no permission to be here. (Tyson should be destroyed.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 05:33 PM (8sMut)

25 Do we have enough American moose to do the job?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 29, 2024 05:33 PM (BpYfr)

Ahem.

Posted by: Alaska at March 29, 2024 05:34 PM (8sMut)

26 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 29, 2024 05:33 PM (0FoWg)

I’ll weep for you at your funeral.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at March 29, 2024 05:34 PM (eQRY8)

27 If you grant them all amnesty, they aren't illegal anymore. And better, you can give them the Joe Biden citizenship application/voter registration form with a sample ballot to show how to vote for Joe Biden.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 29, 2024 05:34 PM (N3GIM)

28 Do we have enough American moose to do the job?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 29, 2024 05:33 PM (BpYfr)

Ahem.
Posted by: Alaska at March 29, 2024 05:34 PM (8sMut)
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Right, right...Half the time I forget you guys are there. I should know better...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 29, 2024 05:35 PM (BpYfr)

29 well, shit...

Lou Gossett Jr.

damn.

Louis Gossett Jr., 1st Black man to win supporting actor Oscar, dies at 87

https://bityl.co/P3mn

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 29, 2024 05:35 PM (aD39U)

30 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 05:33 PM (8sMut)

Tyson should be razed to the ground with the executives who made these decisions as kindling.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at March 29, 2024 05:36 PM (eQRY8)

31 But we are not required to abide the presence of illegal aliens.

Oh really, Fat?

Posted by: President Potatohead at March 29, 2024 05:36 PM (nOjd9)

32 Serious countries enforce their borders.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 05:37 PM (8sMut)

33 Enemy Mine was peak Lou Gossett. It's not easy to play a tranny alien.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 29, 2024 05:38 PM (aD39U)

34 29: CHAPPIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

: o (

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 05:38 PM (8sMut)

35 Borders are cultural constructs that have no real validity.

Posted by: Sid at March 29, 2024 05:38 PM (CcyrO)

36 33 Enemy Mine was peak Lou Gossett. It's not easy to play a tranny alien.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 29, 2024 05:38 PM (aD39U)

Zammies!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 29, 2024 05:39 PM (di6C2)

37 If millions of actual working American citizens (aka slaves) decided to migrate to Mexico en masse, that wall would get built so fast you wouldn't believe it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 29, 2024 05:39 PM (0FoWg)

38 I hope Sid family are visited by the illegals who break US laws simply by arriving.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 29, 2024 05:40 PM (EH+Qn)

39 Ya know what? Mexico is a failed state, and it's running out of men. All us normies should just illegally migrate South, put down the cartels, take the country as our own by force, and leave this shithole to rot.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 29, 2024 05:33 PM (0FoWg)

Partly correct.
Migrate with III Corps and maybe 5 divisions. Move the border a hundred miles south. March the illegals to that point and tell them go home.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 05:40 PM (W/lyH)

40 And even if they are law abiding except for the act of entering the country, these millions of people from the world over now owe criminal cartels $10-30,000 for the trip. How long before they get the order to start stealing or robbing or killing?

Posted by: PJ at March 29, 2024 05:40 PM (G1dq6)

41 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 29, 2024 05:39 PM (0FoWg)

We’d get mowed down and nobody would lift a finger. I truly believe this

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at March 29, 2024 05:40 PM (eQRY8)

42 What remains undeniable by the law of averages is that the massive surge in immigration since the Biden administration relaxed border policies -- a surge that it puts at more than 4 million people, but other sources millions more -- has been accompanied by much more crime, however unquantifiable.----

What utter bullshit. 4 million!
And the press wonders why they're hated and called fake news.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 29, 2024 05:40 PM (FCbAQ)

43 As I've said, numerous times, some of these illegals have political aspirations. They will eventually run for office and unseat sitting congress critters, both D and R.

I suspect many in congress voted for the open border and thought they'd be insulated from any detrimental effects.

I think they thought wrong. Being unseated by an illegal who you voted to allow to come into the country, vote, and then run for office to unseat you is just "voting for it" in spades.

IOW; fuck 'em. They voted for it. Karma is an illegal bitch.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 29, 2024 05:41 PM (Q4IgG)

44 That statistic he printed about the crime statistic is BS. They sampled Hispanics from the general population, they sampled the Americans from the inner cities crime capitols.

Posted by: vic at March 29, 2024 05:41 PM (A5THL)

45 35 Borders are cultural constructs that have no real validity.
Posted by: Sid at March 29, 2024 05:38 PM (CcyrO)

Go to Panmunjom and tell the North Koreans that exact thing. I'm sure they would be very interested in your point of view.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 05:41 PM (8sMut)

46 Note the comment in the piece from Alex Nowestrah. Decent guy, libertarian open-borders nut to the core. He constantly argues that illegals commit less crime than citizens but he's become quite deft in then providing numbers relating to LEGAL immigrants.

And of course he doesn't count document fraud and especially not the original act of crossing the border illegally.

Posted by: spongeworthy at March 29, 2024 05:42 PM (DWqKI)

47 15 If there was only a way to keep these illegals out and deport them.

If.
Only.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at March 29, 2024 05:31 PM (eQRY

Perplexing, ain't it?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 29, 2024 05:42 PM (OX9vb)

48 Go only 100 miles south you get nothing but desert.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 29, 2024 05:42 PM (XOzuR)

49 Oli London @OliLondonTV
Governor of New York told to LEAVE the wake of NYPD officer Jonathon Diller.

The Democrat Governor was only at the wake for 10 minutes before a tense confrontation broke out.

She has been slammed for her bail reform policies, allowing crime to soar.

https://tinyurl.com/3h7zbcem
27 seconds; LOUD wind

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 29, 2024 05:42 PM (2yu8s)

50 35: Noted. Messing with this clown for showing up in our country will be fun!

Posted by: Canada Border Services Agency at March 29, 2024 05:43 PM (8sMut)

51 The crime rate for illegal aliens is 100%.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 29, 2024 05:43 PM (aD39U)

52 Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at March 29, 2024 05:42 PM (OX9vb)

I have no idea what to do!

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at March 29, 2024 05:43 PM (eQRY8)

53 Criminelles Sans Frontiers

I sense an NGO marketing plan we could clean up on. Who's with me?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 29, 2024 05:43 PM (Wnv9h)

54 35: That's extreme even for us!

Posted by: Schengen Zone at March 29, 2024 05:44 PM (8sMut)

55 But we are not required to abide the presence of illegal aliens.
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Could have fooled me.

Posted by: ... at March 29, 2024 05:45 PM (lX8VI)

56 48 Go only 100 miles south you get nothing but desert.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 29, 2024 05:42 PM (XOzuR)

Also known as a free fire zone.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 05:45 PM (W/lyH)

57 46 Note the comment in the piece from Alex Nowestrah. Decent guy, libertarian open-borders nut to the core. He constantly argues that illegals commit less crime than citizens but he's become quite deft in then providing numbers relating to LEGAL immigrants.

Never mind their very first act is a crime.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 05:45 PM (8sMut)

58 Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 29, 2024 05:42 PM (2yu8s)

This is literally tamest thing these people deserve.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at March 29, 2024 05:46 PM (eQRY8)

59 He constantly argues that illegals commit less crime than citizens
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Well each of them has committed at least one so he's full of fucking shit.

Posted by: ... at March 29, 2024 05:46 PM (lX8VI)

60 It's always been a dumb argument on the crime rate of illegals. It's like saying that the neighbors break a lot fewer of our things than our friends and family do. BFD. The neighbors shouldn't be breaking ANY of our things.

Posted by: Wally at March 29, 2024 05:47 PM (JtSJ/)

61 Anyone wanna guess how many US politicians and border state law enforcement are on the cartel payrolls now?

How soon do we become like Mexico where local LEOs, politicians, judges and journalists who *don’t* work with the cartel s are killed? I bet Democrats haven’t thought that far ahead…

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2024 05:48 PM (emxO0)

62 This is easily the best afternoon of the year.
Have poured a generous dollop of Buffalo Trace, am sitting in the sun, and doing research for another cigar review for Weasel.
Packing my keltec PM9 and not an illegal in sight.
Life is good.
We are blessed.
The Horde rocks it!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 05:48 PM (W/lyH)

63 “Jeux sans frontières” becomes “Crimes sans frontières”. Who knew?

Posted by: Advo at March 29, 2024 05:48 PM (VHN21)

64 The article explores...
Posted by Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:23 PM Comments

With all due respect, I think we're past articles exploring.

We're in the action phase here, and armed clashes should be escalating soon. As the weather gets warmer, people get more uppity.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 29, 2024 05:49 PM (dGCAG)

65 This is easily the best afternoon of the year.
Have poured a generous dollop of Buffalo Trace, am sitting in the sun, and doing research for another cigar review for Weasel.
Packing my keltec PM9 and not an illegal in sight.
Life is good.
We are blessed.
The Horde rocks it!
Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 05:48 PM (W/lyH)
Buffalo Trace is on my “must try soon” list.

Posted by: Advo at March 29, 2024 05:49 PM (VHN21)

66 Illegal entry should be classified as felony.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 29, 2024 05:49 PM (kCvJX)

67 Have poured a generous dollop of Buffalo Trace, am sitting in the sun, and doing research for another cigar review for Weasel.
Packing my keltec PM9 and not an illegal in sight.
Life is good.
We are blessed.
The Horde rocks it!
Posted by: Dioge

would have thought you were more of a b&t guy

Posted by: N at March 29, 2024 05:49 PM (RjBju)

68 🚨BREAKING: A female school bus aide was randomly sucker-punched by a man with 7 prior arrests in Brooklyn, NY.

https://twtr.in/3b5B

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 29, 2024 05:50 PM (aD39U)

69 Oh goody , the one named trolls have arrived.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2024 05:50 PM (emxO0)

70 13 Nobody is being forced to abide illegal immigration. It's legal. The Party said so. The Party's word is law.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 29, 2024 05:30 PM (0FoWg)

My word is the law.

Posted by: Mao at March 29, 2024 05:50 PM (8sMut)

71 I AM THE LAW.

Posted by: Judge Dredd at March 29, 2024 05:51 PM (aD39U)

72 fwiw we should go sharia with illegal aliens, everybody found gets declitted or circumcised when they are found, right where they are found, back of the squad. then they are released to renter through a valid entry .

Posted by: N at March 29, 2024 05:52 PM (RjBju)

73 Buffalo Trace is on my “must try soon” list.
Posted by: Advo at March 29, 2024 05:49 PM (VHN21)

Damn good bourbon, and not overly pricey.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Come Sail Away with me, You guys at March 29, 2024 05:52 PM (MvA9C)

74 Some illegal hurts my family, they'd better hope like hell they get deported. Not making threats, making a warranted outcome promise with a probability 1.0 of occurence. They will wish for deportation if i catch the perp.

Posted by: BifBewalski at March 29, 2024 05:52 PM (MsrgL)

75 We need a moose.
To stay out front and tell people.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion
......

Moose with a machine gun.

Posted by: wth at March 29, 2024 05:52 PM (v0R5T)

76 Read a report a hour ago the soon to be X President of Mexico wants 20 Billion dollars from Sundowner to turn off the illegal immigration switch

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2024 05:52 PM (fwDg9)

77 Illegal entry should be classified as felony.
Posted by: Ben Had

This!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 29, 2024 05:53 PM (EH+Qn)

78 Read a report a hour ago the soon to be X President of Mexico wants 20 Billion dollars from Sundowner to turn off the illegal immigration switch
Posted by: S

what is the delay, just send the $

Posted by: N at March 29, 2024 05:53 PM (RjBju)

79 Moose with a machine gun.
Posted by: wth at March 29, 2024 05:52 PM (v0R5T)

Ho Ho Ho

Posted by: Rudolph at March 29, 2024 05:55 PM (aD39U)

80 Read a report a hour ago the soon to be X President of Mexico wants 20 Billion dollars from Sundowner to turn off the illegal immigration switch
_____________

Uh ... what's the point, if he's leaving office soon?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 29, 2024 05:56 PM (zrukV)

81 The Canadians might be upset if we start poaching their moose to patrol the southern border.

Do we have enough American moose to do the job?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I'll be your Huckleberry
- Bullwinkle

Posted by: BifBewalski at March 29, 2024 05:56 PM (MsrgL)

82 We are not see ze probleme.

Posted by: Criminels sans Frontiers at March 29, 2024 05:57 PM (0ZSaO)

83 Some illegal hurts my family, they'd better hope like hell they get deported. Not making threats, making a warranted outcome promise with a probability 1.0 of occurence. They will wish for deportation if i catch the perp.
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 29, 2024 05:52 PM (MsrgL)

This.
Call if you need backup.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 05:57 PM (W/lyH)

84 I think it's already a felony

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 29, 2024 05:57 PM (CS75+)

85 it is not the absence of laws it is the absence of enforcement

Posted by: N at March 29, 2024 05:58 PM (RjBju)

86 Ya know what? Mexico is a failed state, and it's running out of men. All us normies should just illegally migrate South, put down the cartels, take the country as our own by force, and leave this shithole to rot.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

You're Filibustering.

Posted by: William Aiken Walkers at March 29, 2024 05:59 PM (0ZSaO)

87 @68

>>BREAKING: A female school bus aide was randomly sucker-punched by a man with 7 prior arrests in Brooklyn, NY.

Poor OODA utilization, forget about sex ed in schools, people need to be taught to pay f**king attention to their surroundings.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 29, 2024 05:59 PM (XV/Pl)

88 The talking point that illegals commit fewer crimes is one of the biggest lies liberals tell, and that is a HIGH bar to top. I think around 70 percent of inmates in the LA county jail are illegal. Even before Biden let in every violent thug from Tijuana to Titicaca, they committed every type of crime that didn’t require a law degree.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 29, 2024 05:59 PM (tRd71)

89 88 The talking point that illegals commit fewer crimes is one of the biggest lies liberals tell, and that is a HIGH bar to top. I think around 70 percent of inmates in the LA county jail are illegal. Even before Biden let in every violent thug from Tijuana to Titicaca, they committed every type of crime that didn’t require a law degree.
Posted by: UGAdawg

They are felons. Every one of them.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 29, 2024 06:01 PM (oBglL)

90 Perfect - let these bands of third world scum murder, rape and pillage the sanctuary city fools. Then, target practice for the red states. Sounds like a fully justifiable cleanse of multiple issues.

Posted by: Son of Dad at March 29, 2024 06:01 PM (8JB5s)

91 76 Read a report a hour ago the soon to be X President of Mexico wants 20 Billion dollars from Sundowner to turn off the illegal immigration switch

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2024 05:52 PM (fwDg9)

Whoever wrote the report is wrong. The drug cartels want 20 Billion dollars. Mexican Presidents and their minions are nothing but clerks employed by the cartels.

Posted by: Gref at March 29, 2024 06:01 PM (5fDan)

92 Serious countries enforce their borders.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

MOAR MONIES

Posted by: Ukraine is doing a job Americans just won't do at March 29, 2024 06:02 PM (0ZSaO)

93 People who come here illegally are not just criminals for entering, they eventually have to break other laws to remain here, such as lying about citizenship on legal forms, stolen or fake I’d used to get work, etc., tax fraud, getting entitlements that are for citizens and so on.

So even excluding violent crimes, the very nature of open borders makes them all criminals as well as makes them vulnerable to crime ( don’t go to police for hep or report crime because they’d want to be deported or fired). It’s just a mess that Biden and the Dems have created - there’s nothing caring about it.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2024 06:02 PM (emxO0)

94 President of Mexico wants 20 Billion dollars from Sundowner to turn off the illegal immigration switch

*pulls out paper and pencil*
Lets see. The 2 goes into that. Carry the denominator. Multiply by the numerator...
Ahhh. Fuck it.
For $20 billion, one megaton on Mexico City should do it.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 06:02 PM (W/lyH)

95 Illegal means illegal. By crossing the border, they are felons. Period. Full Stop.

I think I will move to Boston where they will pay me $500 a month to house these louses and when they accidentally disappear, well, they weren't prisoners, were they?

Probably need to dig a well...

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 29, 2024 06:03 PM (NkASH)

96 "Have poured a generous dollop of Buffalo Trace,”

That was my go to pour for years; now it’s allocated here in Atlanta and I can’t ever find it. I’ve switched to Smokewagon bourbon.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 29, 2024 06:03 PM (tRd71)

97 *pulls out paper and pencil*
Lets see. The 2 goes into that. Carry the denominator. Multiply by the numerator...
Ahhh. Fuck it.
For $20 billion, one megaton on Mexico City should do it.
Posted by: Diogenes

Your cipherin' looks pretty good

Posted by: Jethro Bodine at March 29, 2024 06:05 PM (0ZSaO)

98 "Read a report a hour ago the soon to be X President of Mexico wants 20 Billion dollars from Sundowner to turn off the illegal immigration switch

DiSantis had promised to do something I’ve been saying we shoud do for years; tax money remitters back to Mexico at 90 percent. That will curb some of this shit.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 29, 2024 06:05 PM (tRd71)

99 This.
Call if you need backup.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 05:57 PM (W/lyH)

A friend will help you move...

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 29, 2024 06:05 PM (NkASH)

100 🚨BREAKING: A female school bus aide was randomly sucker-punched by a man with 7 prior arrests in Brooklyn, NY.

https://twtr.in/3b5B
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 29, 2024 05:50 PM (aD39U)

Maybe the 8th time will do it.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 29, 2024 06:06 PM (dGCAG)

101

This.
Call if you need backup.

Posted by: Diogenes

Appreciated. I think the feral hogs have my back sufficiently so you don't have to travel.

How about a dollop of that buffalo trace through the usb port? It should chase the moonshine i'm sipping nicely.

*pours Diogenes some 'shine through the usb port*

Posted by: BifBewalski at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (MsrgL)

102 Give Mexico back to the Spanish who can then sell it to the French who can then put their president macaroon and his husband on the throne and he can call hisself Maximillian 2 and he and his husband can prance around in Cancun with their yellow banana hammocks on in the surf.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (R/m4+)

103 DiSantis had promised to do something I’ve been saying we shoud do for years; tax money remitters back to Mexico at 90 percent. That will curb some of this shit.
Posted by: UGAdawg

Up to about 20% it might work.

After that, just a new business for the cartels.

Posted by: Miklos, dismal scientist at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (0ZSaO)

104 Hard not to see some real bad times coming. The illegals have a close knit community and some of those are already no go zones. Deportation is going to open a big gaping wound.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (kCvJX)

105 USBP Chief Patrol Agent Gregory K. Bovino
@USBPChiefELC

BP agents responded to a call from the Marine Corp Base about a #Chinese national who entered the base w/o authorization, ignoring orders to leave. Subject was confirmed to be in the country illegally.

His purpose & intent behind his actions are still being investigated.

https://tinyurl.com/4ruax5e4

Posted by: redridinghood at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (NpAcC)

106 A friend will help you move...
Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 29, 2024 06:05 PM (NkASH)

;-)

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (W/lyH)

107 His purpose & intent behind his actions are still being investigated.

https://tinyurl.com/4ruax5e4
Posted by: redridinghood at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (NpAcC)

This crap has been happening for years now. "And we just can't find a reason why he would do that...."

We know why. Shoot the bastards when they don't stop.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 29, 2024 06:09 PM (NkASH)

108 pours Diogenes some 'shine through the usb port*
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (MsrgL)

Coming back at cha!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 06:09 PM (W/lyH)

109 106 A friend will help you move...
Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 29, 2024 06:05 PM (NkASH)

;-)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (W/lyH)

Alaska is a very big and very empty state. Just sayin'.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 29, 2024 06:10 PM (NkASH)

110 84 I think it's already a felony

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 29, 2024 05:57 PM (CS75+)

I did some research on this a few years ago. The first offense is a misdemeanor, the second offense and up are felonies.

Posted by: vic at March 29, 2024 06:11 PM (A5THL)

111 They can't be bargained with, they can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity! Or remorse or fear and they absolutely will not stop!... ever... until you are dead!

Posted by: Endless waves of illegals heading your way at March 29, 2024 06:12 PM (AR07F)

112 102 Give Mexico back to the Spanish who can then sell it to the French who can then put their president macaroon and his husband on the throne and he can call hisself Maximillian 2 and he and his husband can prance around in Cancun with their yellow banana hammocks on in the surf.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (R/m4+)

Oddly specific.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at March 29, 2024 06:12 PM (lg881)

113 ITC, first offense is a Class B misdemeanor.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 29, 2024 06:12 PM (kCvJX)

114 Alaska is a very big and very empty state. Just sayin'.
Posted by: tcn in AK

It has a lot of uninhabited ocean front as well.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 29, 2024 06:12 PM (EH+Qn)

115 these days

aztecs > spanish

Posted by: N at March 29, 2024 06:12 PM (RjBju)

116 I did some research on this a few years ago. The first offense is a misdemeanor, the second offense and up are felonies.
Posted by: vic

Then why can't Texas arrest these felons?
That stupid judge stopped Texas, right?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 29, 2024 06:13 PM (EH+Qn)

117 Do you think a woman getting suckered punched would stop voting for Marxism?

Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2024 06:14 PM (fwDg9)

118 107 His purpose & intent behind his actions are still being investigated.
--------
Farmland real estate agent.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 29, 2024 06:14 PM (2yu8s)

119 The border is now a dangerous zone where bandits ply their trade.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 29, 2024 06:15 PM (fs1hN)

120 Only $20 billion? Sure... If they could really stop illegal immigration for $20 billion, I'd be all for it. Cut some of the DEI stuff from the Federal budget and you'd have more than enough spare change to pay off the sex traders and free their victims.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at March 29, 2024 06:16 PM (lg881)

121 It has a lot of uninhabited ocean front as well.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 29, 2024 06:12 PM (EH+Qn)

And orcas. Lots of orcas.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 29, 2024 06:16 PM (NkASH)

122 Give Mexico back to the Spanish who can then sell it to the French who can then put their president macaroon and his husband on the throne and he can call hisself Maximillian 2 and he and his husband can prance around in Cancun with their yellow banana hammocks on in the surf.
____

Yikes. This is a reason to celebrate Cinquo de Mayo or this alternate timeline may have come to pass.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 29, 2024 06:16 PM (fs1hN)

123 *pours Diogenes some 'shine through the usb port*
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (MsrgL)

Isn’t USB just an amazing invention?

Posted by: Advo at March 29, 2024 06:17 PM (VHN21)

124 117 Do you think a woman getting suckered punched would stop voting for Marxism?
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2024 06:14 PM (fwDg9)

Well, she was stupid enough to walk around NYC without a handgun in her purse, she's probably stupid enough to not connect the dots.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 29, 2024 06:17 PM (NkASH)

125 "The correct number of crimes committed by illegal aliens in the US should be zero. They should not fucking be here."

Right. We are not trading away our more-bad citizen crims on a 1:1 basis when we allow in the less-bad illegals, so the net result is more crime.

Posted by: Impudent Warwick at March 29, 2024 06:18 PM (f/6Wb)

126 Who cares what his intent and purpose were - it’s clear by his behavior he was up to no good by breaking the law. Assume he’s an agent of an enemy state ffs.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 29, 2024 06:18 PM (emxO0)

127 88
Hey, isn't Titicaca one of AOC's aliases?

Posted by: Ciampino - Good Friday, be humble & good at March 29, 2024 06:19 PM (qfLjt)

128 We should return the favor, empty our prisons and offer the convicts a one way flight to the invading country of their choice . . . with summary execution if they return to the USA.

Posted by: Hillary's Jockstrap at March 29, 2024 06:19 PM (Cia0+)

129 *pours Diogenes some 'shine through the usb port*
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 29, 2024 06:07 PM (MsrgL)

Isn’t USB just an amazing invention?
Posted by: Advo

Universal Sipping, Bro

Posted by: Rural English Dictionary at March 29, 2024 06:20 PM (0ZSaO)

130 Hillary's jockstrap, brilliant!

Posted by: Ben Had at March 29, 2024 06:20 PM (kCvJX)

131 Do you think a woman getting suckered punched would stop voting for Marxism?
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2024 06:14 PM (fwDg9)

Ummmmmmmm...No.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 29, 2024 06:21 PM (R/m4+)

132 124 117 Do you think a woman getting suckered punched would stop voting for Marxism?

No bc the other side is mean to the gays and muh abortions or something

Posted by: brak at March 29, 2024 06:22 PM (MWBxy)

133 94 President of Mexico wants 20 Billion dollars from Sundowner to turn off the illegal immigration switch

---

Annex Mexico. The combined border between Mexico and El Salvador and Guatemala is very small so we could seal that off easily.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 29, 2024 06:22 PM (5jPmg)

134 Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_

BREAKING: ICE official tells me Venezuelan illegal alien “TikTok influencer” Leonel Moreno was arrested by ICE’s Fugitive Ops team in Columbus, Ohio today, and he is now in federal custody. ICE tells FOX Moreno previously crossed illegally into the U.S. in April 2022, and was released on ATD (alternatives to detention) and was instructed to report to ICE within 60 days, but never did. Moreno has since been posting viral videos on TikTok, including urging other illegal aliens to squat in Americans’ homes.
ICE tells me a statement on his arrest will be coming later today.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 29, 2024 06:22 PM (NpAcC)

135 We should return the favor, empty our prisons and offer the convicts a one way flight to the invading country of their choice . . . with summary execution if they return to the USA.
Posted by: Hillary's Jockstrap

In my day, we had to hijack aircraft to Cuba. That was WORK.

Kids these days have no idea.

Posted by: Grumpy American criminals in exile at March 29, 2024 06:22 PM (0ZSaO)

136 There B a NOOD !

Posted by: JT at March 29, 2024 06:24 PM (T4tVD)

137 Ace has a nood

Posted by: vic at March 29, 2024 06:24 PM (A5THL)

138 In my day, we had to hijack aircraft to Cuba. That was WORK.
Kids these days have no idea.
Posted by: Grumpy American criminals in exile at March 29, 2024 06:22 PM (0ZSaO)

Skyjacked (1972) was a great movie.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 29, 2024 06:24 PM (R/m4+)

139 99 This.
Call if you need backup.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 29, 2024 05:57 PM (W/lyH)

A friend will help you move...

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at March 29, 2024 06:05 PM (NkASH)
----

A friend will help you move
A good friend will help you move bodies
A best friend with a backhoe will help you ......

Posted by: Ciampino - just barium & don't call the cops at March 29, 2024 06:25 PM (qfLjt)

140 nood

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 29, 2024 06:28 PM (2yu8s)

141 >>> DiSantis had promised to do something I’ve been saying we shoud do for years; tax money remitters back to Mexico at 90 percent. That will curb some of this shit.
Posted by: UGAdawg

It's not just Mexico.

Maybe tax at a nominal 20% and let Western Union keep it all if the sender doesn't have proof of ID and/or clearing Immigration and Customs (or citizenship)...

Nah, Biden is just flooding the country with alien invaders.
At least Vichey had Germans with guns.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2024 06:30 PM (cOq4q)

142
BREAKING: ICE official tells me Venezuelan illegal alien “TikTok influencer” Leonel Moreno was arrested by ICE’s Fugitive Ops team in Columbus, Ohio today, and he is now in federal custody. ICE tells FOX Moreno previously crossed illegally into the U.S. in April 2022, and was released on ATD (alternatives to detention) and was instructed to report to ICE within 60 days, but never did. Moreno has since been posting viral videos on TikTok, including urging other illegal aliens to squat in Americans’ homes.
ICE tells me a statement on his arrest will be coming later today.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 29, 2024 06:22 PM (NpAcC)

——-

Message: Please don’t post on TikTok.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 29, 2024 06:30 PM (k8kCE)

143 80 Read a report a hour ago the soon to be X President of Mexico wants 20 Billion dollars from Sundowner to turn off the illegal immigration switch
_____________

Uh ... what's the point, if he's leaving office soon?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 29, 2024 05:56 PM (zrukV)

AMLO was Trump's bitch when Trump was in office. Just sayin.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 06:31 PM (8sMut)

144 In my day, we had to hijack aircraft to Cuba. That was WORK.

Kids these days have no idea.
Posted by: Grumpy American criminals in exile at March 29, 2024 06:22 PM (0ZSaO)

Cuba...is that next to Cuber?

Posted by: John F. Kennedy at March 29, 2024 06:32 PM (8sMut)

145 141 >>> DiSantis had promised to do something I’ve been saying we shoud do for years; tax money remitters back to Mexico at 90 percent. That will curb some of this shit.
Posted by: UGAdawg

It's not just Mexico.

Maybe tax at a nominal 20% and let Western Union keep it all if the sender doesn't have proof of ID and/or clearing Immigration and Customs (or citizenship)...

I'm old enough to remember when conservatives understood cause and effect, and when they understood taxation alters behaviors in ways not appreciated until they go into effect.

You get your wish, then look forward to it backfiring, and not raising revenue, and those sending the remittances just taking the money home in cash every so often.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 29, 2024 06:36 PM (8sMut)

146 87 @68

>>BREAKING: A female school bus aide was randomly sucker-punched by a man with 7 prior arrests in Brooklyn, NY.

Poor OODA utilization, forget about sex ed in schools, people need to be taught to pay f**king attention to their surroundings.

Posted by: Thomas Bender
--------------------------

So, it's her fault.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 29, 2024 06:37 PM (XOzuR)

147 I noted here 6 years ago that shipping a lot of urban Utes to Mexico would change Mexico.

The women mostly remain in Mexico, because of all the multiple rapes of migrant women by cartels, traffickers, and illegal men.

The women long for respectful male attention. Because the men are in the US. May have to ban misogynic rap music. So win, win.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 29, 2024 07:36 PM (u82oZ)

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