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Gun Thread: First March 2024 Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving hell did it get to be March? This is madness!

Q:Weasel, are you a college basketball fan?
A: No.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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So wassup, all y'all? With each passing day winter recedes in the rear-view mirror and spring approaches. In addition to not being a college basketball fan, or sports ball fan of any variety really, I also especially do not like winter. I suppose winter itself is not so bad if I can simply hermitize myself, but the season brings with it a bunch actual work at work, as well as ancillary winter-related chores, like supervising WeaselWoman while she shovels snow. I have yet to convince her that it will eventually melt, but she insists on doing things the hard way..

Anyhoo, hopefully you have not been a stranger at the range during the long, dark winter. You, um, have been going to the range and practicing your fundamentals, haven't you? Please don't tell me you are a fair weather shooter.

OK. I was afraid of this. You disappoint Weasel.

Show of hands. Who has been to the range in the last 30 days? Shooting, at least shooting well, is a perishable skill. Do you take months off from pole vaulting, or wingsuit flying, or bomb disarming and expect to retain all your skills? Please take this as a friendly reminder to find your firearm, clean and lubricate it, and head to the range for a little fundamentals practice, 'kay?

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Guns of the Horde
Well our pal Butch isn't a disappointment to Weasel and has been to the range!

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Lee Enfield No. 4 Mk 1

I took my English Roses Caroline (Lee Enfield No. 4 Mk 1) and Imogen (Lee Enfield No. 5 Mk 1) to the range today to zero them: place 1.5" high by 1" wide target at 25 yards, place peep sight at 200 yds, aim at bottom of rectangle. Zero is when boolitt impacts 3/4" above POA.

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Lee Enfield No. 5 Mk 1

Results are mediocre; my 29+ eyes have difficulty making out the zero target. To move the POA down, I need to install taller front sights and I am already max-ed out. Traditional target indicates if I aim just above belt buckle, I will hit the trunk. I am not a sniper going for 500-yards head shots. Minute of dirt bag out to several hundred yards is good enough. Maybe I'll make it to a TXMOME one of these years and bring them along.

I met a couple of young fellas who ooh-ed and aah-ed over the old girls.

Very nice, Butch! Thank you for sharing!

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Here is a little refresher video on cleaning a pistol.

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National Rifle Association Board Elections

We have a good question from our pal Skyrunner on the upcoming NRA Board Elections.

I was wondering if you could give us Morons some suggestions on how to vote on the current NRA Ballot? My dear wife shared these suggestions, posted on a blog she reads. What do you think about the four recommendations; Phil Journey, Dennis Fusaro, Jeff Knox, and Rocky Marshall.

Could you share your thoughts?

My thoughts? Well, I do know some current NRA Board Members from my competitive shooting days, but not any of these guys personally so I will do what everyone else does and that is turn to the internet for answers. I was able to find the same four names recommended in an article at Ammoland which I think has proven to be reliable where these sort of things are concerned.

The article linked above is pretty good, and states the four are "...dedicated to reforming the troubled NRA..." and that's about all your 'ol pal Weasel needs to hear. Maybe these guys are big fat liars and don't have any intention of reforming anything, but I have to ask one question; could they do any worse than what we have now?

The 2024 ballots will be in the March editions of NRA publications. If any of all y'all have an opinion of the NRA Board in general, or these four candidates in particular, I'd love to hear what you think in the comments.

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More Restoration

Here is another restoration video - what do you think?

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Life Skills
A contribution from our pal bluebell.

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Freight Train Assembly

Q: Weasel, how do you assemble a freight train?
A: It's easy! See below.

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Zane Grey - Buffalo Stampede - 1933

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Musical Interlude
Alaska blizzard sounds! Bye winter!

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Gun Basics 101
New video from the She Equips Herself gal! This week's video is on safety at the gym.

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Cigar of the Week

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This week our pal Diogenes scores again with this excellent review of the Romeo y Julieta 1875

I may have covered this cigar some time ago but if so, the report still stands.

A good line from a recent Weasel Thread: "When everything goes to shit, stop shooting and go back to the fundamentals!" I had a similar epiphany earlier when selecting a cigar. After sampling a number of different brands, sometimes it's just necessary to go back to where you started. I fired up the Romeo y Julieta 1875. For me, this was the cigar that began it all. Like a favorite shootin' iron that you know will never fail you, the 1875 is as reliable as any cigar I have ever smoked. The initial taste includes hints of pepper and coffee and it soon flows into a pleasant smooth tobacco flavor. Possessed of an Indonesian wrapper and Dominican binder and long-filler, is offers an soft draw and slow burn. It is a mild smoke, affordable, and goes well with just about any beverage. An absolute favorite.

Excellent, Diogenes, thank you! The 1875 is a favorite of mine, too!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
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Palmetto State Armory
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AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
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***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal and certified gun nut Iris. Great one!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 Guns up!

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 07:00 PM (69JzL)

2 Hello horde!

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 07:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

3 Good Sunday evening horde....

Posted by: Grateful at March 03, 2024 07:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

4 Woohoo!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 07:01 PM (W/lyH)

5 Here!

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 07:01 PM (2hOms)

6 Bong!

Posted by: Eromero at March 03, 2024 07:01 PM (DXbAa)

7 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 07:01 PM (fwDg9)

8 PanzerFaust!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 07:01 PM (2yu8s)

9 Darn.

#8

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 07:02 PM (2yu8s)

10 Bet there are running racks in Irus's bedroom and bathroom

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 07:03 PM (fwDg9)

11 How in the ever-loving hell did it get to be March? This is madness!

ISWYDT.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:04 PM (Wnv9h)

12 Congrats GWB! First!

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 07:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

13 And, SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:04 PM (Wnv9h)

14 The floor plan is precisely how I envision Ed L's abode...

Posted by: Grateful at March 03, 2024 07:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

15 Good thing this thread showed up. CBD was about to get owned by Nurse.
Was gonna get ugly.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 07:06 PM (W/lyH)

16 Have I been to the range in the last 30 days?

Well, d’oh.
Just got back with DILIT. She asked to go with me since she wanted to practice skills her instructor gave her.
Which included mag changes. I like her instructor. She’s on the board with me at the range.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 07:06 PM (2hOms)

17 Why does the rock island compact 1911 require me to have a paperclip for teardown? Just include a short- headed 1/16" allen wrench. It's an annoying oversight. Bah, humbug.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2024 07:06 PM (0FoWg)

18 I miss cigars. Maybe one day when I don’t have to resort to a nebulizer anymore I can enjoy one again.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 07:06 PM (8sMut)

19 fyi - Food thread had 192 posts. Just sayin'...

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 07:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

20 Do you take months off from pole vaulting, or wingsuit flying, or bomb disarming and expect to retain all your skills?


A very valid point!
My friend, Stumpy Sollanski took a few weeks.off his job in EOD.
It wasn't pleasant.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 07:07 PM (W/lyH)

21 1 Guns up!
Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 07:00 PM (69JzL)

You must be in Lubbock. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 07:07 PM (8sMut)

22 Finally back to the range, first time since January. Starting to see baby steps progress. Still learning about the fundamentals I need to keep focusing on....that list keeps growing longer!

Posted by: Grateful at March 03, 2024 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

23 Show of hands. Who has been to the range in the last 30 days?

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I don't have to, got the back 40.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2024 07:08 PM (lTGtQ)

24 Have I been to the range? I'm almost insulted by the question.

Harrumph!

Thanks for the thread, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 07:08 PM (tT6L1)

25 We will get there, Trex.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 07:09 PM (2hOms)

26 Just got back with DILIT. She asked to go with me since she wanted to practice skills her instructor gave her.
Which included mag changes. I like her instructor. She’s on the board with me at the range.
Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 07:06 PM


But does she shoot long range? Enquiring Morons want to know.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:10 PM (Wnv9h)

27 Any HQ SMLE owners ever do a "mad minute"??

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 07:10 PM (2yu8s)

28 The moral of the story: all organizations, including the NRA, benefit from infusions of fresh blood.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 07:10 PM (8sMut)

29 I like the design of that house!
And if it is big enough does one put in an indoor range?

Posted by: Scuba Dude at March 03, 2024 07:10 PM (f0/sc)

30 Harrumph!

Thanks for the thread, Weasel!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 07:08 PM


OK... we got a harrumph outta that guy. He's excused.

Posted by: Gov. LePetomaine at March 03, 2024 07:11 PM (Wnv9h)

31 The sven family welcomed a new PC carbine into the family this afternoon, we also adopted a Strikeman laser training system to work on some of our pistol ergonomics.

Posted by: sven at March 03, 2024 07:11 PM (X0I7i)

32 I like the design of that house!
And if it is big enough where does one put in an indoor range?

Posted by: Scuba Dude at March 03, 2024 07:10 PM


Edited for Horde compliance.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)

33 The moral of the story: all organizations, including the NRA, benefit from infusions of fresh blood.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33



There is a corollary, that some organizations need exsanguination of fresh blood.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2024 07:12 PM (lTGtQ)

34 33 Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 03, 2024 07:12 PM (lTGtQ)

but enough about the Boy Scouts, BLM, and the Shriners...

Posted by: sven at March 03, 2024 07:14 PM (X0I7i)

35 32 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:12 PM

Thanks, trying to keep the keystrokes down. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba Dude at March 03, 2024 07:15 PM (f0/sc)

36 Grateful did much better at the range today with pistols than I did. The bulls-eyes on the downrange paper had little to fear from me. Definitely have a lot of work to do on fundamentals. Did much better with pistol-caliber carbine hardware. Congrats Sven on the new addition.

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

37 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea!

This was a week chock full of gubby goodness.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 07:16 PM (IFNME)

38 Sadly, no range time for me. Just to bloody lazy to drag my carcass out to do something useful.

I do make sure I do a little dry firing now and then.

Posted by: Scuba Dude at March 03, 2024 07:17 PM (f0/sc)

39 Two range reports, plus a shout out for a cleaning kit.

Last weekend was two gun, alas, I decided not to participate in a local 500 yard progressive plate match this weekend. (20 in plate, 15, 10, 5 then 2. shot in order)

I figured trying to shoot in a 25mph wind with increasing velocity wasn't my cup of tea.

However, I did make a couple of special purpose range trips. After shooting the 1,000 yard match I put my scope back to zero. However, because I've learned what I think I did versus what I actually did can diverge, I made sure to check zero on my 1,000 match rifle on the 100 yards line to confirm.

The other trip was for adjusting the gas block on the Noreen, which was successfully complete. Not many rounds expended but did make some nice noise banging 06 rounds off steel at 200 yards.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 07:18 PM (tT6L1)

Posted by: Don Black at March 03, 2024 07:18 PM (oCjPU)

41 19 fyi - Food thread had 192 posts. Just sayin'...
Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 07:07 PM (IQ6Gq)


We can do this.

And I went to the range twice this week and once last week.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 07:18 PM (IFNME)

42 The handcuff thing was very cool.
Of course, you can't use that hack on an airplane, since they won't even allow those itty-bitty pocketknives on the airplanes. Because you might take the plane hostage with those tweezers.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 07:19 PM (69JzL)

43 The sven family welcomed a new PC carbine into the family this afternoon, we also adopted a Strikeman laser training system to work on some of our pistol ergonomics.
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I'll be buying a Kel-Tech Sub2000 this week too.

I had been thinking about a Ruger PC Carbine [a 'sporterized' looking version and not the ones with the metal handguard] but I saw a video of an admitted crack-shot able to get target hits at 400m with the Sub2000 using just its iron sights so my worries that it would only be useful at 100m or under contrasted with a heavier-stocked 9mm were allayed. [Not that I intend shooting at 400m targets with it!!]

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 07:19 PM (2yu8s)

44 I eat food at least every week. But I don't shoot every week.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2024 07:20 PM (0FoWg)

45 Nice shooting Butch!

Bloke On The Range has a Lee-Enfield No.4 Battle Sight video exploring the actual ranges and zeros associated with the different rear sight apertures.

https://tinyurl.com/4p5pnpan

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 03, 2024 07:20 PM (R/m4+)

46 A bobby pin will work in place of the tweezers.

Posted by: butch at March 03, 2024 07:21 PM (Vxc9h)

47 Thanks, Hairyback Guy!

Posted by: butch at March 03, 2024 07:23 PM (Vxc9h)

48 Greetings! That compound spring (I guess that is what it is called) in the cleaning video, is like my Glock. My question: was Gaston Glock the inventor of it or was it someone else?
Sure makes cleaning a breeze compared to my 1911.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 03, 2024 07:24 PM (MeG8a)

49 Why does the rock island compact 1911 require me to have a paperclip for teardown?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2024 07:06 PM (0FoWg)

Yep. All the compact 1911s (I think) are bushless. I went out and bought 2 sets of cheap allen wrenches (1 metric and 1 SAE). Took the two smallest (1/16" and 1.5mm) and cut the short leg about in half. I put one in my cleaning bag and one in my tool bag.

You'd think this would be something they would sell. Maybe I should ask Husky or someone for all of their seconds under 2mm and start a business.

Now, my only problem is what do I do with the rest of each set? It's not like I don't already have sets of allen wrenches....

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 07:24 PM (69JzL)

50 Gubs!

Diogenes, thanks for reminding me that I have to give the 1875 another try. I’ve tried it twice in the past, but both times there was a glitch. First one I think was a bad stick, second time, that day *nothing* would have tasted good. Some days cigars just hit me wrong. Think this happens due to the condition and chemistry of one’s system. Have had it happen with wine too.

What’s burning today? Have an Oliva Serie G going on the chilly back porch (our weak imitation of winter) while checking on the meat filling on the stove for a tourtiere I’m making tomorrow.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 07:25 PM (xHdZY)

51 I want a Sub 2000. But, it's a toy, and I can't justify the expense. Maybe next year.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2024 07:25 PM (0FoWg)

52 You must be in Lubbock. : o )
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 07:07 PM (8sMut)

I wish! Fond memories of there....
(Though it could have used a few more windbreaks or hills.)

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 07:25 PM (69JzL)

53 Second bit of gun news: I'd gotten tired of my slovenly sort of toss everything together gun cleaning stuff. Plus, my stuff for cleaning pistol was old and not all that user friendly. I decided to invest in an Otis multi caliber cleaning kit.

Well, pulled the kit out, gave it a whirl today and realized I probably need to get on it and do a better job of organizing my gun cleaning stuff, because the well organized kit made life a lot easier.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 07:26 PM (tT6L1)

54 Hopefully, the Glock will not hear this, but it seems the G19X and I might have reached an accommodation and I was very pleased with our performance today.
Similarly, the Hi-Power performed as expected so all in all a nice range day with the MGC!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 07:26 PM (hOUT3)

55 I was on the waitlist for an event on the 28th at our local range. It was "Intro to Steel Shooting and Competition." I got an email midday on the 28th that it had an open slot.

YAY! BUT - I had not prepared. Because you need an OWB holster, 3 mags, a double mag holster, and frangible ammo. I needed to put together an ensemble of those 3 things for something easily dredgeable from the creek. I hopped over to the range/gun store where the event was to be held and looked at what was on the shelf and figured I could go with my EDC - P365XL. I got a holster and mag holster and a box of 9mm frangible ammo. Not what I wanted to shoot but what I could put together last minute. (continued...)

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 07:27 PM (IFNME)

56 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 07:27 PM (yRXSd)

57 I miss cigars. Maybe one day when I don’t have to resort to a nebulizer anymore I can enjoy one again.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024


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I'm more of a pipe smoker. But late last year I bought a small tin of Romeo y Julieta cigarillos, the blue (mild) tin. Still haven't gotten around to trying one. I figure it would be wise of me to smoke it outdoors. My pipes have a friendly aroma, but I'm not sure about the cigarillos.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 03, 2024 07:28 PM (omVj0)

58 I haven't done any gun related stuff this week. Trying to organize some things around the house. But for the pipe smokers among us, Cornell and Diehl have another limited release: Sansepolco. It's named for the area of Italy that produced the dark fired burley used in the blend. Besides the burley there are three types of Virginia tobacco chosen for their sugar content and unflavored cavendish. The combination makes for a slow, complex smoke, a little sweet and a little spice. It is excellent for relaxed pipe smoking while enjoying a good book and sipping good coffee (Community Coffee) or some single malt scotch (Lagavulin 16 comes to mind). I was able to get two tins. Hope to get more if I'm lucky.

I heard that area of Italy produces some of the tobacco used in better cigars but there were no details.

Posted by: JTB at March 03, 2024 07:29 PM (zudum)

59 blaster, good luck in the match and have fun!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 07:29 PM (tT6L1)

60 andycanuck, a guy at the range handed me his Ruger PC carbine a few years back, had a cheap red dot on it. First shot at my 10-inch plate @100 yds - ping. Talk about easy to shoot.

It had the heat shield on the barrel, makes it resemble my grail gun, the PPsh-41.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 07:30 PM (xHdZY)

61 Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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Thanks for the video [34:35 minutes] not that I'll be buying a historic bolt-action any time soon. The first 10 minutes were interesting.

BTW, the video Brit briefly uses a Swiss Army Knife in the video.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 07:31 PM (2yu8s)

62 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2024 07:06 PM (0FoWg)

Commander style 1911s out of the box should not require any tools to take down for field stripping. That might be

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 07:32 PM (yRXSd)

63 Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 07:32 PM (yRXSd)

(continued from previous post) That might be one reason why the Commander style 1911s (4.25" barrel, full sized grip) are usually more reliable than the compact models are. Deviate too far from JMB's original design, you need to expect stuff starting to go awry. Usually, people end up sacrificing reliability in their quests for accuracy out of the 1911 platform.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 07:34 PM (yRXSd)

64 Dear Gun Thread Staff,

Q:Weasel, are you a college basketball fan?
A: No.


So, this means Weasel could be a WNBA fan, correct?

Asking for the GT Commentariat.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 07:34 PM (a3Q+t)

65 Great range outing with almost a full completment of MGC members. I brought the new lavender G48 for it's first outing and what do you know, it performed exactly like my old G48 right out of the box. This is what I was hoping. Now to put the Holosun EPS Carry MRS green dot on it. I was initially shooting a little left and low although still on the target. Pulled out a sheet that says what to correct. It said pushing trigger sideways in stead of pulling back. Worked on that wiith good results. I also found that not overthinking things helped.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 07:36 PM (t/2Uw)

66 Just curious- what do ranges do with all the spent casings? Sell them to a recycler? Does the quantity add up to meaningful money?

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 07:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

67 Q:Weasel, are you a college basketball fan?
A: No.

So, this means Weasel could be a WNBA fan, correct?

Asking for the GT Commentariat.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 07:34 PM


Q: Have you ever seen Weasel wearing Crocs?
A: No. No, you have not.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)

68 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 07:36 PM

*waves to sharon*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)

69 I'm in the process of fitting a beaver tail grip safety to my new Turkish Colt Commander clone. It is supposed to be a "drop in" model, but there is interference between the pistol frame and the safety, so the pivot holes don't quite line up.
Rule #2: Cut on the least expensive part. $35 safety vs.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at March 03, 2024 07:40 PM (CFtGR)

70 (cont.) - The frangible ammo is because you are shooting steel at a range of about 5 yards. The 3 mags are a requirement because that's the rules such as they are.

It's an "outlaw" competition that the range runs, it isn't sanctioned by any body. The training was set up simply - a set of 3 steel targets you shoot 5 times (sequence 1-2-3-2-1) and then move to another shooting position and shoot another arrangement of 3 steel targets in the same sequence, then move to a row of 6 plates to knock down. So 16 rounds in 3 mags - how you arrange it is up to you. You got a warmup round and two passes. They say the competitions are more complex.

sra blaster was allowed to be a spectator, and she really liked it. So we will soon be competitors! Gettiing our ensembles together - extra mags and holsters etc. She's going to shoot my Sig P226 with XRAY3 sights and I will shoot my PSA Dagger with a dot.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 07:40 PM (IFNME)

71 Thanks for sending in that link, bluebell!

You're swell! We can tell!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 07:40 PM (a3Q+t)

72 Gub!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 07:41 PM (V8he0)

73 So, this means Weasel could be a WNBA fan, correct?

Asking for the GT Commentariat.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 07:34 PM (a3Q+t)
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Also no!

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 07:41 PM (JwHpX)

74 good job, Sharon.

Question for Sharon: Did you ever, in a million years, think you'd become knowledgeable about firearms and the the types of optics which work for you on handguns?*

*pretty sure I know the answer to this question.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 07:42 PM (tT6L1)

75 blaster, outlaw matches are always fun, because they tend to be a bit more relaxed.

Sounds like a great time.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 07:43 PM (tT6L1)

76 Hey RMBS. Hoping to see you at the VAMoMe again and maybe another outing at the range. Two weeks ago we ended up o the 15 yd lanes we used for the post mome party. Not quite as crowded but brought back great memories.
Question to Weasel and Bluebell if you are around: Any idea when the VaMoMe will be held?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 07:44 PM (t/2Uw)

77 Thanks for sending in that link, bluebell!
You're swell! We can tell!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 07:40 PM (a3Q+t)


You will note that bluebell found a way to use a mini-shiv in a gun thread educational contribution!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 07:44 PM (hOUT3)

78 The No 4, Mk I*: Musketry of WWII - 1942 Rifle Course (War)

https://tinyurl.com/37dmceak
31:48 ignore the shmaltzy opening -- the rest is strictly business from a re-enactor of all the history of Canada's 78th Seaforth Highlanders from the 1860s to WW2 and all eight or so Firearms used by those troops. [Other British firearms too like Sharpe's Baker rifle.]

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 07:45 PM (2yu8s)

79 BTW, the video Brit briefly uses a Swiss Army Knife in the video.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 07:31 PM (2yu8s)

Bloke On The Range is a good bloke (no pun intended) who I believe lives in Switzerland now. I think he is a copyright attorney by trade and has an engineering background as well.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 03, 2024 07:45 PM (R/m4+)

80 Left me all alone on the food thread. I believe etiquette requires a notification to the previous thread.

Where are your manner?

Posted by: Pete Bog at March 03, 2024 07:45 PM (BHL6B)

81 For today's MGC meet up, I brought the military surplus lightweight FN High Power I picked up last month, the 2022 FN High Power, the H&K P7, the H&K SP5 and SP5K-PDW mostly for TRex and Grateful to test drive. The 2022 High Power won out over its surplus counterpart by a wide margin. I think that was due to its sharper recoil compared to its heftier all steel modern counterpart. Grateful shot the H&K SP5K-PDW better than the SP5 due the Holosun 503G RDS I added to the SP5K-PDW. TRex shot the SP5 better than SP5K-PDW. I think that's because the MP5A3 adjustable stock was a better fit for TRex than the B&T collapsing stock on the SP5K-PDW. Finally, I demonstrated the effects of attaching a suppressor to the SP5 and using subsonic 9mm ammo compared to supersonic ammo w/o a suppressor. I think TRex and Grateful were impressed by the reduction in noise the suppressor achieved.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 07:46 PM (yRXSd)

82 I have a sick pup in my care tonight so I will probably be in and out of the thread.

No range time this week but did disassemble and detail clean the FN Reflex to see if I can cure the light primer strike issue. My 29+ (age, not number) arthritic fingers make working with them tiny springs . . . interesting.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at March 03, 2024 07:46 PM (PWe8a)

83 Where are your manner?
Posted by: Pete Bog at March 03, 2024 07:45 PM (BHL6B)

Looks at the time of your post....
07:45
*ahem*

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 07:47 PM (69JzL)

84 Question for Sharon: Did you ever, in a million years, think you'd become knowledgeable about firearms and the the types of optics which work for you on handguns?*

*pretty sure I know the answer to this question.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

This morning on hte book thread, there was discussion about time travel. I wouldn't change a thing about my past because it has brought me here.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 07:48 PM (t/2Uw)

85 My back to basics cigar is Te-Amo, the Mexican puro.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 07:48 PM (cOq4q)

86 Just curious- what do ranges do with all the spent casings? Sell them to a recycler? Does the quantity add up to meaningful money?
Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 07:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

2A Warehouse in Houston buys brass cases for a buck forty a pound.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM (PWe8a)

87 Good evening, gunthusians.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM (m1Uxm)

88 TRex, yes, many ranges get revenue from the brass. Commercial reloading is a thing, so big market for brass. Many ranges have commercially reloaded ammo as the “house” ammo you must use with rentals. Club/outdoor range where I RO gets revenue from brass. Military/agencies use ranges a lot, so it’s mostly 5.56, some .40 (though decreasingly so as 9mm seems to be making a comeback).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM (xHdZY)

89 I'm in the process of fitting a beaver tail grip safety to my new Turkish Colt Commander clone. It is supposed to be a "drop in" model, but there is interference between the pistol frame and the safety, so the pivot holes don't quite line up.
The Rules of Gunsmithing:
Rule #2: Cut on the least expensive part. $35 safety vs.$300 frame.
Rule #3: If it isn't going together, and you're getting frustrated, quit before you do something stupid. It will be waiting for you tomorrow.
Rule#1 is, of course, make sure it's unloaded before you mess with it. Guy I know failed to do so, and put a .45 bullet through his left palm. He kept his hand.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM (CFtGR)

90 Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at March 03, 2024 07:46 PM (PWe8a)
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Pups, especially sick ones, always come first!

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM (JwHpX)

91 Good evening, Ben Had!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM (hOUT3)

92 81 I demonstrated the effects of attaching a suppressor to the SP5 and using subsonic 9mm ammo compared to supersonic ammo w/o a suppressor. I think TRex and Grateful were impressed by the reduction in noise the suppressor achieved.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 07:46 PM
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Impressed? Can confirm. Amazed. Thank you VERY much for the hardware test drive.

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 07:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

93 Commissar Hrothgar, good evening to you and that sweet boy, Conor.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 07:51 PM (m1Uxm)

94 Guy I know failed to do so, and put a .45 bullet through his left palm. He kept his hand.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM (CFtGR)
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There's a video out there of a guy putting a bullet through his hand at the range. He was trying to see the pistol laser against the palm of his hand.

You can imagine the rest, or, if you want do a quick search of youtube.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 07:51 PM (tT6L1)

95 Good evening, gunthusians.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM


Good evening, Ben Had, I hear the hogs are still skeered of y'all.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 07:52 PM (a3Q+t)

96 Hi Ben! How are things in TX?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 07:52 PM (tT6L1)

97 Good Evening Ben Had (waves). Hope all is well in your part of Texas.

Posted by: Grateful at March 03, 2024 07:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

98 Today at the range with the DMV MGC (attendance, sra blaster and myself, swa, Iris, Horthgar, Ed L., TRex, and Grateful) sra blaster set up to do elimination rounds with our pistolas to pick out what she would shoot steel with - P226, Ruger P95, and her EDC a P365. The P365 dropped out of competition early on just too snappy. It was a little bit of a shootout between the P95 and P226 but in the end the P226 won out - plus easier to find a holster for.

In our selection shoot we did something a little different - we have targets that have 5 areas per sheet - one in each corner and one in the center. So we shot 5 rounds from each pistol, once at each target area. That gave us a little bit of movement in shooting. Not much, but enough to make it a little bit different.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 07:53 PM (IFNME)

99 Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM (m1Uxm)

Hello, Ben Had!

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 07:53 PM (yRXSd)

100 Hi Ben Had

Started thinking about plane reservations today.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 07:54 PM (t/2Uw)

101 That thar is a purty fancy shiv upgrade, bluebell.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 07:55 PM (V8he0)

102 Thanks for sending in that link, bluebell!

You're swell! We can tell!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 07:40 PM


Shooter McGavin has entered the chat.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:55 PM (Wnv9h)

103 Ask swa about her new gun she took to the range for the first time today!

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 07:55 PM (IFNME)

104 andycanuck, a guy at the range handed me his Ruger PC carbine a few years back, had a cheap red dot on it. First shot at my 10-inch plate @100 yds - ping. Talk about easy to shoot.

It had the heat shield on the barrel, makes it resemble my grail gun, the PPsh-41.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Cool. I can see that with the [plastic!] wooden-stock version and a drum magazine. [A WW2 favourite of mine too.]

The store for the Ruger had three versions -- the sport-looking version with 'wooden' stock; your friend's version with 'wooden' stock but the metal handguard heat shield; and the all-metal AR-style version.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 07:57 PM (2yu8s)

105 Hey RMBS. Hoping to see you at the VAMoMe again and maybe another outing at the range. Two weeks ago we ended up o the 15 yd lanes we used for the post mome party. Not quite as crowded but brought back great memories.
Question to Weasel and Bluebell if you are around: Any idea when the VaMoMe will be held?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 07:44 PM


God willing, we'll both be there. The RMBS Mom will be ready to chew gum and shoot.

Narrator: The RMBS Mom does not, in fact, chew gum.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:57 PM (Wnv9h)

106 Back from dinner.
RMBS, can you believe our host did not publish pictures of our 13 degree scope mounting session? The nerve of that guy.
And yes, DILIT took my dialed-in 6.5 and shot steel at 300 the first time I gave it to her…

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 07:57 PM (2hOms)

107 Just curious- what do ranges do with all the spent casings? Sell them to a recycler?

Not recycling as in melting down for the metal but sell it to companies that sort it, clean it (maybe), and resell to be reloaded.

Does the quantity add up to meaningful money?

Apparently. Because some of them get really snotty if you try to pick up your own brass. I try not to go to those places.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2024 07:57 PM (lpc0O)

108 Good evening, gunthusians.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 07:49 PM


Evenin', Ben Had.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:58 PM (Wnv9h)

109 Ben Had, Conor sends his regards. He is still strutting around, very pleased with himself,due to his presence on yesterday's pet thread!

Hope all is well with the TXMoMe Team!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 07:58 PM (hOUT3)

110 I came into something shiny and black recently. No, it’s not a submarine. My local range does not allow submarines.

Posted by: Eromero at March 03, 2024 07:58 PM (NxC5+)

111 Duncanthrax, only hogs I have seen have been road kill. Good thing in some ways but I need a couple of piglets for the freezer.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 07:59 PM (m1Uxm)

112 RMBS, can you believe our host did not publish pictures of our 13 degree scope mounting session? The nerve of that guy.
And yes, DILIT took my dialed-in 6.5 and shot steel at 300 the first time I gave it to her…
Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 07:57 PM


1) Shocked! Shocked, I am!

B) Outstanding!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 07:59 PM (Wnv9h)

113 Range, no, but finally have filing the cans (reloading). 30-06 for the M1, 30 carbine done, now on 45 Colt, to be followed by God’s Own Caliber (45ACP), then 9mm and 380. Started with a big run of powder-puff 38 (using .357 brass) for the snub nose revolvers. Boss likes the Model 60 and wants to practice a lot.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 08:00 PM (xHdZY)

114 Blaster was enamoured of the fact that the mags for my purple Glock also had end caps that are purple.
The range master also pointed out that my ear protection was also purple.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 08:00 PM (t/2Uw)

115 Thanks for the GT Mr. Weasel!

On a side note: 1 hour in and just over 100 posts, be better.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2024 08:01 PM (px/th)

116 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a hearty howdy and thanks to our host Weasel!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at March 03, 2024 08:01 PM (v23vE)

117 Um, “but finally have been filling the cans”.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 08:01 PM (xHdZY)

118 Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 07:41 PM

Now hear this, now hear this!

With Weasel aboard this evening, we won't be able to run amok and shenaniganize like we did last week.

That is all.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 08:01 PM (a3Q+t)

119 Military brass has a thinner casing than most commercial brass. That's due to the DOD's need to save money given how much small arms ammo they produce, and the expectation that military brass won't get reloaded because empty military brass usually isn't picked up on the battlefield for further use. When you make as many rounds for DOD as the Army does, reducing the amount of raw materials used often leads to significant cost savings in manufacturing costs. Therefore, military brass gets crushed when it's collected at DOD ranges for scrap specifically to prevent their use in reloading.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 08:01 PM (yRXSd)

120 98 In our selection shoot we did something a little different - we have targets that have 5 areas per sheet - one in each corner and one in the center. So we shot 5 rounds from each pistol, once at each target area.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 07:53 PM
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Didn't understand what was happening when I saw sra doing that that at first. Maybe that's a new shooters excuse for bad clusters: "No, I wasn't shooting all over the place. I was going for different targets. Yeah...that's it."

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 08:02 PM (IQ6Gq)

121 Went out today to one of my favorite spots to exercise the Rogers & Spencer, spent about 20 minutes trying to find a suitable area.

No go, it was like walking on a wet sponge. Guess when it's dryer I'll give it another go.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 03, 2024 08:02 PM (KATBx)

122 Hi blake. I owe you an email.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 08:02 PM (m1Uxm)

123 Blaster was enamoured of the fact that the mags for my purple Glock also had end caps that are purple.
The range master also pointed out that my ear protection was also purple.
Posted by: sharon

Please don't let us know if any other pieces of clothing were purple (excepting outer ware of course).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2024 08:03 PM (px/th)

124 Grateful, did you get together with nurse? Spring is springing in Texas and life is good. Hope all is well with you both.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 08:04 PM (m1Uxm)

125 "I came into something shiny and black recently."

Are we not doing phrasing any longer?

Posted by: Sterling Archer at March 03, 2024 08:04 PM (wEicy)

126 It’s great to see rons and Ettes get together to shoot, witness the DMV group, MAE and Nurse’s group.
I do enjoy hearing about everyone’s exploits and progress.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:05 PM (2hOms)

127 Posted by: Eromero at March 03, 2024 07:58 PM (NxC5+)

Is it a 2022 FN High Power? You seemed to like it when you tried it at the TX MoMe.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 08:05 PM (yRXSd)

128 "I came into something shiny and black recently."

Are we not doing phrasing any longer?
Posted by: Sterling Archer at March 03, 2024 08:04 PM


Either that or someone brought out the gimp.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 08:06 PM (Wnv9h)

129 Yes, swa had her new lilac G48 MOS. I did not expect that even the baseplates of the mags would be purple.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:06 PM (IFNME)

130 Ben Had, no I don't have Nurse's email, but have asked for it. We are good, busy but good. Winter seems done here and the daffys are starting to bloom. But I'd love to see the blue bonnets again....

Posted by: Grateful at March 03, 2024 08:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

131 I got a 22 ARC (6.5 Grendel necked down to 22 cal.) barrel from Ranier on Tues. I got it up to the range on Wed. It was probably the best brand new rifle experience I've ever had! I was shooting the 88gn Hornady matches and if I can duplicate that round I'll be a happy camper. I got it sighted in in no time and went through 2 25 round mags flawlessly, not a hiccup!! What a round, I was only half an MOA below my 6 Creedmoor at 600 yards. It's a 22" barrel with a rifle + 1" gas system, I absolutely love it!! I can't wait for my 24" Faxon barrel now.

Posted by: ck at March 03, 2024 08:07 PM (nMOLw)

132 EdL, good evening and thank you for all the info you share.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 08:07 PM (m1Uxm)

133 With Weasel aboard this evening, we won't be able to run amok and shenaniganize like we did last week.

That is all.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 08:01 PM (a3Q+t)


Still unclear, pants optional or no?

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:08 PM (IFNME)

134 "He was trying to see the pistol laser against the palm of his hand."

Dude in the bay next to me at the range did this one day (after his wife swept me and my shooting buddy with a muzzle).

We packed up and left immediately. That level of stupid is not correctable.

Posted by: PabloD at March 03, 2024 08:08 PM (wEicy)

135 Grateful, I will send you nurse's email in the morning. Planning is under way.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 08:09 PM (m1Uxm)

136 Still unclear, pants optional or no?
Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:08 PM


Not Book Thread, ergo, pants optional.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 03, 2024 08:10 PM (Wnv9h)

137 Gunthusiasts.
I like that, Ben Had.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:10 PM (2hOms)

138 we have targets that have 5 areas per sheet - one in each corner and one in the center.
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I'll be buying a 10-pack of those too this week along with the Sub2000!

Bushmaster 25-Metre Sight-In Target (10-Pack)

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 08:10 PM (2yu8s)

139 Thank you so much Ben Had. I truly appreciate it. Don't want to be late to the party!

Posted by: Grateful at March 03, 2024 08:10 PM (IQ6Gq)

140 Nice pair of western style holsters for revolvers on the Hobby Thread yesterday

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 08:10 PM (fwDg9)

141 Went to range yesterday with barnd new el cheapo chronographto try out some 9mm loads with Vihtavuori’s 3N38 (their manual is on-line so no need to discuss details).
Three powder charges - 1269 fps, 1332 fps, and 1386 fps. That's 450 ft.lbs at the top end and wasn't even their max charge.

Think I'll load the rest at the low end.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 08:11 PM (cOq4q)

142 No range time, this week nor last.

But, did get to eyeball one of these, under the ELGS glass.

https://danieldefense.com/daniel-h9.html

Hybrid of 1911 basics with striker fired slide, atop. In double stack 9mm.

Atheistically, I'd like one without the Picatinny rail, a whole lot more.

Is it worth $1,200? Daniel Defense thinks so.

And, I'll second the motion on the Romeo Y Julieta stogies. Are they the best? No. Are they a great value for a GOOD cigar? Always!

Excellent Gun Thread, Weasel. Like the cigars. ALWAYS!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 03, 2024 08:11 PM (e6UQI)

143 Nice pair of western style holsters for revolvers on the Hobby Thread yesterday
Posted by: Skip

Both the holsters and the gun grips looked good.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2024 08:12 PM (px/th)

144 We packed up and left immediately. That level of stupid is not correctable.
Posted by: PabloD at March 03, 2024 08:08 PM (wEicy)
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I have witnessed a guy facing toward and chatting with his buddy, rifle tucked under his arm, pointed right at the belly button of the guy he was talking to.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 08:12 PM (tT6L1)

145 Happy to report that I FINALLY made some progress with not flinching with my PP26. Also SWA graciously let me try her new G48....and I see a Glock in my future. Suddenly the gun show seems a lot more exciting!

Also want to try what Blaster and SRA were doing. Looked like so much fun.

Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at March 03, 2024 08:13 PM (n3DL0)

146 Hi Ben had. No worries on the email. We got time.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 08:13 PM (tT6L1)

147 Thanks all for the brass recycling knowledge. I figured that ranges sold the stuff to fund the employee christmas party (which is why RSOs make sure all the brass gets collected).

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 08:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

148 I will send a picture of the new pistol. It is actually quite elegant with a lavender grip and a black slide. I see nothing wrong with catering to the growing women's market. I am still having trouble locking the slide and I think the addition of the sight will help with that. I did clear a jam on my own today so winning!

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 08:13 PM (t/2Uw)

149 Sharon, big hug.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 08:14 PM (m1Uxm)

150 Test post. No shenanigans or pants involved.

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 08:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

151 45 comments to go.

What a great number.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 08:15 PM (tT6L1)

152 Ed L, did not know that re military contract brass. Have never heard any negative feedback regarding the brass the club sells. Nothing in one my current calibers, so no direct experience.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 08:15 PM (xHdZY)

153 *waves to RI Red*

Posted by: Ben Had at March 03, 2024 08:15 PM (m1Uxm)

154 If the VAMoMe is scheduled, I may go ahead and come out. Even if (if held in June) I will be a military retiree when the time comes (and thus no more reasons to head to Andrews).

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 08:16 PM (8sMut)

155 Springfield Armory Operator that previous owner enhanced a heap. It was to be his work carry, but then he hired on with a state agency that requires……wait for it……a Glock. Life is funny like that. I plan to take it to the range since there’s a can of .45acp already onboard.

Posted by: Eromero at March 03, 2024 08:16 PM (NxC5+)

156 Continuing to make up for decades of not shooting by doing a ton of shooting. Went to the pistol range Thursday and today to work more on my fundamentals. Thursday was all about grip. Today was all about a proper trigger pull.

Paying attention to my trigger pull really made a difference in my accuracy. My groups are now out of my personal shame zone, except for a couple of flyers. Of course they should be better, but it's great seeing signs of progress.

I am starting to get some major affection for this range. It's outdoors, you get your own wide lane surrounded by thick dirt walls, and they just leave you alone to do your thing.

Can't claim credit for overcoming bad weather. 60's and 70's here.

Posted by: Splunge at March 03, 2024 08:17 PM (oBPoz)

157 If the VAMoMe is scheduled, I may go ahead and come out. Even if (if held in June) I will be a military retiree when the time comes (and thus no more reasons to head to Andrews).
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 08:16 PM (8sMut)
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Nothing on the calendar yet, but stay tuned.

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 08:17 PM (RG6z4)

158 Sharon, DILIT shot some of my volume 22 ammo today and had several stove-pipes with it.
Without me saying a thing, she racked, tapped and boomed.
I’m so proud.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:18 PM (2hOms)

159 sra blaster took her sister who we had helped acquire a S&W M&P 9mm EZ to the courthouse to submit her application for concealed weapon permit.

We are growing the brand y'all

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:18 PM (IFNME)

160 Posted by: Splunge at March 03, 2024 08:17 PM (oBPoz)
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Excellent!

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 08:19 PM (RG6z4)

161 Sounds like a great time, splunge, Always nice to work on stuff without having to worry about what others may or may not be doing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 08:20 PM (tT6L1)

162 Yes, Iris picked up the G48 and hit the target without a problem. But when she shoots her Buckmark 22, it's lights out. It was really fun today not only feeling good about my own shootiing but watching Iris and Hrothgar in hte groove. Itis a lot easier to work on issues when things are going well.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 08:20 PM (t/2Uw)

163 Weasel!
Are you almost done with work work?

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:20 PM (2hOms)

164 Lake city military brass 762x51 it consistently heaver than any of my other 308, their 556 is the same weight as my other 223. It's some of the best reloading brass there is.

Posted by: ck at March 03, 2024 08:21 PM (nMOLw)

165 145 Happy to report that I FINALLY made some progress with not flinching with my PP26. Also SWA graciously let me try her new G48....and I see a Glock in my future. Suddenly the gun show seems a lot more exciting!

Also want to try what Blaster and SRA were doing. Looked like so much fun.
Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at March 03, 2024 08:13 PM (n3DL0)


You mean your P365?

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:21 PM (IFNME)

166 Are you almost done with work work?
Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:20 PM (2hOms)
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Mostly almost!

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 08:22 PM (RG6z4)

167 Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 08:15 PM (xHdZY)

At the bases I'm familiar with, the brass from the ranges goes through a case crusher before it gets sold off to the recycling contractor. When I pointed out that uncrushed brass fetched a better price because it could be reloaded, I was told that DOD brass (primarily 5.56mm and 7.62mm NATO) had thinner case walls than commercial ammo because DOD operated under the assumption that rifle/MG caliber casings wouldn't be recovered and that DOD thinned out the casings in order save $$ by conserving materials. Not sure about that story, but I've seen the case crushers locally.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 08:22 PM (yRXSd)

168 BTW, Butch, nice shooting and record-keeping.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:23 PM (2hOms)

169 Still unclear, pants optional or no?
Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:08 PM


Several of our renown 'ette GT Commentators would get kilt if you have nice legs.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 08:24 PM (a3Q+t)

170 Anyone remember David Letterman's production company was called "Worldwide Pants"? Back to normal programming...

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 08:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

171 And I’ve always been warned that .mil brass was thicker, therefore less volume, therefore higher pressure with identical loads.
What the heck.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:26 PM (2hOms)

172 43 Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 07:19 PM (2yu8s)

Whichever works for you, I do fine with the PC carbine but the Sub works too.

The Ruger is a nail driver to 200 yards.

Posted by: sven at March 03, 2024 08:28 PM (X0I7i)

173 Well, I'm going to wander. It's been grand.

Thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(tT6L1) at March 03, 2024 08:28 PM (tT6L1)

174 Also, I would love to take credit for the Gun Room diagram, but Hrothgar found it and shared it with me. I do, however, approve of the message.

Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at March 03, 2024 08:28 PM (n3DL0)

175 The range master also pointed out that my ear protection was also purple.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 08:00 PM (t/2Uw)

Where's your purple holster and gun case? (I happen to know they make the gun cases in purple.)

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 08:29 PM (69JzL)

176 51 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 03, 2024 07:25 PM (0FoWg)

The PCC is useful for home defense, and Hog/Coyote retirement counseling.

Posted by: sven at March 03, 2024 08:29 PM (X0I7i)

177 Still unclear, pants optional or no?
Posted by: blaster

Several of our renown 'ette GT Commentators would get kilt if you have nice legs.

Posted by: Duncanthrax

Wut? We're supposed to be wearing pants?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 08:29 PM (t/2Uw)

178 I'm not buying the thinner walls, my military brass has outlasted all of my commercial brass. I primarily shoot Lake City but have used several other military cases with excellent luck.

Posted by: ck at March 03, 2024 08:29 PM (nMOLw)

179 I’m having a real crisis right now. I want to build my own AR10, with a 20” SS barrel.
And yet, Uncle Sam wants a large sum of money on April 15, merely for the privilege of being a citizen and supporting millions of “newcomers”.

I think I just answered my own question.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:30 PM (2hOms)

180 >>> 22 ARC (6.5 Grendel necked down to 22 cal.)

That 7.62 x 39 has a large family.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 08:30 PM (cOq4q)

181 I’m having a real crisis right now. I want to build my own AR10, with a 20” SS barrel.
And yet, Uncle Sam wants a large sum of money on April 15, merely for the privilege of being a citizen and supporting millions of “newcomers”.

I think I just answered my own question.
Posted by: RI Red

So whose parts are you going to buy?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2024 08:31 PM (px/th)

182 With the Food Thread at 195 comments currently, we will not have to put in the herculean effort we did last week to get the GT ahead of the FT.

Therefore, the smoking lamp is lit, and you are authorized to hoist one or several in honor of Texas Independent Day.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 08:31 PM (a3Q+t)

183 To help the thread cout
Have a great evening everyone I'm gone to bed

Posted by: Skip at March 03, 2024 08:32 PM (fwDg9)

184 That 7.62 x 39 has a large family. It certainly does, the first AR I built was a 762x39. Good times!!

Posted by: ck at March 03, 2024 08:33 PM (nMOLw)

185 I think I just answered my own question.
Posted by: RI Red


You need to step up and be patriotic, after all those newcomers need EBT cards, FREE cell phones, and nice places to live!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 08:33 PM (hOUT3)

186 AZ, I’m leaning toward PSA.
But I did see a DPMS in my LGS yesterday for $900.
But I do want to build it.
I looked at Bear Creek, but nothing jumped out at me.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:34 PM (2hOms)

187 >>> And yet, Uncle Sam wants a large sum of money on April 15, merely for the privilege of being a citizen and supporting millions of “newcomers”.
I think I just answered my own question.
Posted by: RI Red

Tens of millions. Soon every one of us will have our own personal Newcomer to feed, bath, and advise of further efforts needed for their support.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 08:34 PM (cOq4q)

188 Wut? We're supposed to be wearing pants?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 08:29 PM


No, no, as has been previously observed, this is not the Book Thread, and relaxed grooming standards are authorized.

Plus, I was trying to provide a little something for the discerning 'ettes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 08:35 PM (a3Q+t)

189 I’m having a real crisis right now. I want to build my own AR10, with a 20” SS barrel.
And yet, Uncle Sam wants a large sum of money on April 15, merely for the privilege of being a citizen and supporting millions of “newcomers”.

I think I just answered my own question.
Posted by: RI Red


PSA will sell you the whole dang gun for $809.

http://alturl.com/8sggi

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:36 PM (IFNME)

190 AZ, I’m leaning toward PSA. You can't go wrong with PSA, I love my 308's.

Posted by: ck at March 03, 2024 08:37 PM (nMOLw)

191 I also made a list of all the caliber creep stuff I’d need:
Dies, full length sizer, neck thickness gauge, powder.
And a pony.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:37 PM (2hOms)

192 Sharon, congrats on a successful outing with your new lavender Glock!

Posted by: screaming in digital at March 03, 2024 08:37 PM (1eY81)

193
Where's your purple holster and gun case? (I happen to know they make the gun cases in purple.)

Posted by: GWB
The large size soft gun case I needed due to the intended sight did not come in purple. Sigh. I had to settle for black but it does have kelly green trim. My range bag is black and pink. Trying to be subtle, I will forgo the purple holster. One of hteh reasons I liked this model was the black slide so it would not be as obvious as an all pink gun or robin's egg blue.
I look forward to getting to shoot with you again GWB.
Don"t know if you remember, but you and Jesse gave me my first lesson in round grain weights at the VaMoMe.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 08:38 PM (t/2Uw)

194 >>> I'm not buying the thinner walls, my military brass has outlasted all of my commercial brass. I primarily shoot Lake City but have used several other military cases with excellent luck.
Posted by: ck

Not buying it either.
Dot mils also have machine gun specific rounds. Would assume it would need to be heavier / better metalurgy.

I think it was Obama that issued the edict to crush brass rather than dumping boatloads of usable brass into the civilian market (i.e.: Demil it).

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 08:38 PM (cOq4q)

195 Sure do miss my BHP.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 08:39 PM (V8he0)

196 H&K is giving 4 free magazines* with the purchase of a P30, VP9, or V2000 through the end of the month.

https://hk-usa.com/magapalooza2024/

* technically, they're giving a $200 credit for their webstore, which you could waste on HK branded apparel, I suppose.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 03, 2024 08:40 PM (a3Q+t)

197 Don"t know if you remember, but you and Jesse gave me my first lesson in round grain weights at the VaMoMe.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 08:38 PM (t/2Uw)

I remember that.
And from there... to all of this.

(As to the case, I was thinking hard side case. Look at MidwayUSA and you can find MTM hard cases in purple. But you would need to figure out sizing.)

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 08:41 PM (69JzL)

198 I think it was Obama that issued the edict to crush brass rather than dumping boatloads of usable brass into the civilian market (i.e.: Demil it).
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Which might mean someone who believes the US Constitution as written might end this horrendous practice.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2024 08:41 PM (px/th)

199 Whichever works for you, I do fine with the PC carbine but the Sub works too.

The Ruger is a nail driver to 200 yards.
Posted by: sven
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I do intend getting either it or a Canadian brand -- Kodiak K-9 -- in the future but as the Sub is cheapest, I thought I'd start out with it. [And I wasn't interested in the Sub for its backpack/ pseudo-concealed carry use that alot of its proponents enjoy.]

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 08:42 PM (2yu8s)

200 200!

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 08:42 PM (IQ6Gq)

201 Shooting steel with frangible ammo is a different experience. One of the "cool" things about shooting steel is the gong sound of the bullet hitting the plate. But of course ball/FMJ will make lots of frag close up.

Frangible ammo is a pressed copper powder. It hardly makes any noise when it hits the steel. And it leaves a red residue in lines radiating out from the steel plate.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:42 PM (IFNME)

202 I think it was Obama that issued the edict to crush brass rather than dumping boatloads of usable brass into the civilian market (i.e.: Demil it).
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 08:38 PM (cOq4q)


Dayum, I think I NOW remember that, another gift from our TRANS-formative president!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 08:43 PM (hOUT3)

203 The railroad cars have no graffiti!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 03, 2024 08:43 PM (63Dwl)

204 Blaster, now I have a different problem. Buy or buy-build. The price difference does not seem worth it to build.
Tough life choices.

*checks credit card balance. Zero. Oh, heck.*

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:43 PM (2hOms)

205 I wasn't interested in the Sub for its backpack/ pseudo-concealed carry use that alot of its proponents enjoy.]
Posted by: andycanuck

Heh.
I took the water bladder out of my camelbak (not name brand) and it fits great!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2024 08:43 PM (px/th)

206 #199 Also, 9mm PCC barrels here are 18.5" long.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 08:44 PM (2yu8s)

207 204 Blaster, now I have a different problem. Buy or buy-build. The price difference does not seem worth it to build.
Tough life choices.

*checks credit card balance. Zero. Oh, heck.*
Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:43 PM (2hOms)


The nice(?) thing about PSA is that they have budget friendly stuff but they will also let you get spendy.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:46 PM (IFNME)

208 Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 08:39 PM (V8he0)

If you're interested in an FN made BHP from Belgium, AIM Surplus has military surplus lightweight alloy BHPs on sale right now. They offer blemished ones for $639. These will have significant wear or damage to the finish. The ones in better shape are going for $899. Lightweight alloy BHP were never offered for sale in the US commercially. They usually came in on custom orders if they came in at all. Most went to military or police agencies in Europe. So if you're interested in picking up a relatively rare (but heavily used) variant of the BHP, this is your chance.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 08:46 PM (yRXSd)

209 I appreciate all you do, Weasel, in pulling this weekly firearm colloquium together.

Posted by: 496 at March 03, 2024 08:46 PM (Bf+P4)

210 OK y'all, time to call it a night. Thanks Weasel for the thread, and to the horde for all the sharing and insights. Have a great week!

Posted by: Grateful at March 03, 2024 08:46 PM (IQ6Gq)

211 Oh- SUCK IT FOOD THREAD!!

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 08:46 PM (IFNME)

212 Don’t forget the Smith and Wesson FPC.
Folds sideways so you don’t need to remove your optic. Two 23 round and one 17 round mag included.
About 600 quatloos.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:48 PM (2hOms)

213 Only reloading experience with military brass is Lake City 30 carbine - 50s production - and the Greek HXP 30-06, 1970s production. Very solid brass, definitely not thinner.

Have a lot of 5.56 mil brass (haven't started reloading it yet). Took a quick gander and can't detect any difference with commercial.

Come across a fair amount of the .308 machine gun brass at the range, which I give to .308 guys on my crew (most of it is picked up for sale by the range, but there's always some around). Seems pretty stout.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 08:49 PM (GcNJ2)

214 Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 08:38 PM (cOq4q)

Crushing the brass per executive order may well be true. I learned of this situation in the 2009-10 timeframe.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 08:49 PM (yRXSd)

215 Don’t forget the Smith and Wesson FPC.
Folds sideways so you don’t need to remove your optic. Two 23 round and one 17 round mag included.
About 600 quatloos.
Posted by: RI Red

If only I hadn't purchased the sub2000, that'd be my choice in a heartbeat.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 03, 2024 08:49 PM (px/th)

216 Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 08:46 PM

I would follow up on that in a heartbeat if finances permitted. Alas, not to be. Thanks much for the info, amigo.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 08:52 PM (V8he0)

217 AZ, you do know the power of “and”.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:53 PM (AbVrr)

218 Space Alert! SpaceX is launching an ISS crew in about 2 hours.

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 08:53 PM (JwHpX)

219 >>> Have a lot of 5.56 mil brass (haven't started reloading it yet). Took a quick gander and can't detect any difference with commercial.

IIRC - Starline says their 223 and 5.56 lines have different metallurgy.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 08:53 PM (cOq4q)

220 Folds sideways so you don’t need to remove your optic.
Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:48 PM (2hOms)

Neither must you with the new Sub2000, either. They've responded to the competition.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 08:54 PM (69JzL)

221 Dropped in for a minute. Family medical issues to sort. Wish Weasel and crew a good night.

Posted by: whig at March 03, 2024 08:54 PM (hKOIV)

222 RI Red - Thank you. I was unhappy with results: 29+ eyes, tight socks, and most importantly I was scrunched into an awkward position shooting. I will re-try with a bench rest.

Posted by: butch at March 03, 2024 08:54 PM (Lvojk)

223 On matters of gubs, after two years and six months of applying, interviewing, undergoing a background check, waiting, and demonstrating some badass gun-handling mad skillz at the county sheriffs new recruit shooting range, I was finally awarded my CCW license for CA.

Anyone have thoughts on gun liability insurance? Haven't had to shoot anyone yet but it could happen at any time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (qne3Q)

224 Did not know that, GWB. Ain’t competition/capitalism grand?

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (AbVrr)

225 Blaster, I have some frangible 9mm ammo, but it's loaded to +P pressures. It might be unpleasant to shoot from a pistol, especially something like a P365. It's really meant for PCC/SMG.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (yRXSd)

226 Hang in there, whig.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (V8he0)

227 The pup was uninterested in supper, but at least is drinking water. Now she is snoozing on her bed in the bedroom. I'm going to head up to join her. G'nite, all.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (PWe8a)

228 Cicero, San Berdoo county?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (GcNJ2)

229 Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 08:52 PM (V8he0)

Too bad. But you might want to check it out from time to time. Those lightweight BHP have been on the AIM Surplus website since before Thanksgiving. I think they just got another shipment in a week or two ago.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 08:58 PM (yRXSd)

230 Space Alert! SpaceX is launching an ISS crew in about 2 hours.

It's the manned (insert pronoun here?) that I find particularly interesting.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 08:58 PM (V8he0)

231 223 [A]fter two years and six months of applying, interviewing, undergoing a background check, waiting, and demonstrating some badass gun-handling mad skillz at the county sheriffs new recruit shooting range, I was finally awarded my CCW license for CA.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM
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Congrats! I've heard such a thing is possible but rare to see in the wild.

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 09:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

232 It's the manned (insert pronoun here?) that I find particularly interesting.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 08:58 PM (V8he0)

Ahem, "personned" mission...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 09:00 PM (hOUT3)

233 Shot an indoor steel match a few times (commercial range near Pendleton). Regular ammo. Everyone had a clipboard or similar they'd hold up to cover their face below their glasses while watching. Indeed jackets/etc would bounce back and hit you, not at dangerous velocities.

Might have told this one before, years back was shooting a steel match up in Chino (it was great, 250+ round count, informal, self-organizing. Plate rack, up against berm in one of the areas. Felt jacket fragment hit me in the nose, felt blood (no pain really), stayed with it, with a devious plan. Finished the rack, show clear/slide forward/hammer down at the berm, turn around - and gasps from the RO and squad (blood was running down to my chin). Hilarious.

Band-aid took care of it.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 09:01 PM (GcNJ2)

234 Butch, as our host recommends, go to the range with a purpose and keep records.
The record keeping has helped me out with confirming/disproving theories, loads, sizing, seating depth, etc.
You know, all that stuff that weasel feeds to us.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 09:01 PM (AbVrr)

235 218 Space Alert! SpaceX is launching an ISS crew in about 2 hours.

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 08:53 PM
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Seeing a rocket launch at night in person is on my bucket list. Amazing that launches are becoming routine and we get to see them from behind our laptop for free.

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 09:02 PM (IQ6Gq)

236 I’m having a real crisis right now. I want to build my own AR10, with a 20” SS barrel.
And yet, Uncle Sam wants a large sum of money on April 15, merely for the privilege of being a citizen and supporting millions of “newcomers”.

I think I just answered my own question.
Posted by: RI Red




Before you do that, savage has a new super-lite bolt gun with a proof barrel hitting the stores in a few months, 308 is offered

Posted by: N at March 03, 2024 09:02 PM (RjBju)

237 Too bad. But you might want to check it out from time to time. Those lightweight BHP have been on the AIM Surplus website since before Thanksgiving. I think they just got another shipment in a week or two ago.

Once again, thanks Ed. Hoping things will improve soon here on my end. I just know that aside from a 1911, the BHP I owned helped make me a semi-respectable marksman. Sigh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 09:03 PM (V8he0)

238 Anyone have thoughts on gun liability insurance? Haven't had to shoot anyone yet but it could happen at any time.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (qne3Q)


We've had the discussion here on the gunthread before. I think the bottom line is having it is a good thing. Which is more better is the question - probably the state you are in matters, too.

We have USCCA here.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 09:03 PM (IFNME)

239 Seeing a rocket launch at night in person is on my bucket list. Amazing that launches are becoming routine and we get to see them from behind our laptop for free.
Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 09:02 PM (IQ6Gq)


Night launches from Wallops Island are visible in the DC area. I imagine they would be that much cooler closer.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 09:04 PM (IFNME)

240 Anyone have thoughts on gun liability insurance?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (qne3Q)

Gun liability?
Or gun lawyer liability?

What CA and some other places are trying to get you to buy is liability insurance so you can be forced to pay out to the miscreant (and/or his next-of-kin) you were forced to ventilate. It is not really a good idea, IMO.

What everyone seems to think you should have is gun lawyer insurance, that puts some good people on call to come and defend you and help with all of the potential paperwork if you are forced to defend yourself or others. That's places like USCCA and the one Branca recommends, CCW Safe.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:04 PM (69JzL)

241 Heh.
I took the water bladder out of my camelbak (not name brand) and it fits great!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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LOL.

Yes, it certainly folds small. But I don't intend taking it on the subway in what would appear to be an artist's portfolio case... yet.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 09:05 PM (2yu8s)

242 Congrats! I've heard such a thing is possible but rare to see in the wild.

Congrats from here, as well. So very maddening that you had to jump through all of those hoops to get there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 09:07 PM (V8he0)

243 Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (GcNJ2)

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Yup.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 03, 2024 09:07 PM (qne3Q)

244 Don’t forget the Smith and Wesson FPC.
Folds sideways so you don’t need to remove your optic. Two 23 round and one 17 round mag included.
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I was looking at that one too with the butt-stock holding the two spare mags [although magazines pinned to 10-rds here] but they were all sold out around here except one place I didn't fully trust.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 09:08 PM (2yu8s)

245 Thanks, N. I’ve got sufficient bolt guns, and I want a semiautomatic in .308 that I can take out to longer ranges at less than MOA.
Just because, I guess.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 09:08 PM (AbVrr)

246 Hang in there, whig.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 08:55 PM (V8he0)

Concur.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:08 PM (69JzL)

247 Gun liability?
Or gun lawyer liability?

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Both. Liability should include a legal defense against civil liability.

Whether it includes criminal liability defense is another matter entirely.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 03, 2024 09:09 PM (qne3Q)

248 Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 09:02 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I've seen a couple of nite shuttle launches. Very cool!

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 09:11 PM (JwHpX)

249 A question:
Why would you put something like a .308/7.62 NATO in a 16" barrel? Wouldn't you want it in a 20" barrel or longer to achieve its full range? What does a .308 gain you in an up close & personal situation?

("Well, it's a bigger bullet" is a simplistic answer, IMO.)

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:14 PM (69JzL)

250 Always regret never going to see a shuttle launch when I coulda done it through work. Too far south for Vandenberg stuff, though there have been times when the high-altitude trace of the rockets has been visible if it happens just around sunset. Pretty wild. From direction I always assumed those were ICBMs heading to what used to be called the PMTR.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 09:15 PM (GcNJ2)

251 a legal defense against civil liability.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 03, 2024 09:09 PM (qne3Q)

But that's not what CA (some places, therein, anyway) is asking for. They want "liability" the same way you have to have liability insurance for your car. Which we should know gets defended very seldom. Someone makes a claim against you and the insurance company pays out, typically - because it's easier and costs less.

It could be rolled up into the sort of legal defense packages people already buy. But I don't think it currently is.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:17 PM (69JzL)

252 248 I've seen a couple of nite shuttle launches. Very cool!

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 09:11 PM
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Very cool indeed. The closest we've come is a shuttle landing at Edwards AFB. No sound other than two sonic booms.

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 09:18 PM (IQ6Gq)

253 Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:14 PM (69JzL)

A 16" barrel for .308/7.62mm NATO doesn't give you anything ballistically. But using a 16" barrel vs. a 20" barrel gives you more mobility and ease of carry if you're moving in and out of vehicles a lot, or if you and your team operate in an urban environment. Sure, you won't reach out to 1000+ meters as well, but 500 meters still gives a lot of reach in an urban/suburban setting.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 09:19 PM (yRXSd)

254 239 Night launches from Wallops Island are visible in the DC area. I imagine they would be that much cooler closer.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 09:04 PM
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Didn't realize that. Will keep an eye open and think about a good perch looking in that direction.

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 09:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

255 Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 09:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

You'll probably see it better if you can get out of the urban light zone cast by the built up areas of DC and its close in suburbs.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 09:22 PM (yRXSd)

256 No night launches, but I saw a night reentry of Columbia in July 1999.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at March 03, 2024 09:23 PM (8sMut)

257 My Remington in .308 has about an 800 meter reach. I have about 500 meter eyes.
So...

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 09:24 PM (W/lyH)

258 500 meters still gives a lot of reach in an urban/suburban setting.
Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 09:19 PM (yRXSd)

That makes sense. Outside of being "an operator" would the weight advantage negate the loss of range if you were hunting? Do you hunt a lot of stuff under 500m with a .308?

I think I know these answers, but it's bugged me to see so many AR-10 barrels for sale down at 16" when I would think the point of an AR-10 would be to get that long distance. So, I had to actually bug someone about it.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:25 PM (69JzL)

259 Hey guys and gals - thanks for tuning in tonight. Have a great week and hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 09:25 PM (JwHpX)

260 Whoo hoo. Picked a S&W M&P Semi-Auto 15-22 (LR 22) rifle. It is a hoot to shoot. Plink. Plink. Plink. It is a good day to be an American.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:26 PM (ezhXT)

261 Posted by: Weasel at March 03, 2024 09:25 PM (JwHpX)

Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 09:27 PM (yRXSd)

262 Thanks for the thread, Weasel!

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:28 PM (69JzL)

263 What’s burning today? Have an Oliva Serie G going on the chilly back porch (our weak imitation of winter) while checking on the meat filling on the stove for a tourtiere I’m making tomorrow.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 07:25 PM (xHdZY)



I had an Olivia a few years back. (cigar...not strumpet)
A good smoke once I got it started.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 09:29 PM (W/lyH)

264 260 Whoo hoo. Picked a S&W M&P Semi-Auto 15-22 (LR 22) rifle. It is a hoot to shoot. Plink. Plink. Plink. It is a good day to be an American.
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In purple, LiS??

https://tinyurl.com/4cjzwt3w
[photo]

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 09:29 PM (2yu8s)

265 Thanks Weasel.
you know I'll be here.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 03, 2024 09:29 PM (t/2Uw)

266 Thanks much, Weasel. Always informative and entertaining.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 09:33 PM (V8he0)

267 Thanks Weasel and thanks horde. I learned stuff. Not sure what we decided about pants though.

Remember - next week we're on daylight savings time. Ensure your clock is properly calibrated.

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 09:34 PM (IQ6Gq)

268 Whoo hoo. Picked a S&W M&P Semi-Auto 15-22 (LR 22) rifle. It is a hoot to shoot. Plink. Plink. Plink. It is a good day to be an American.
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In purple, LiS??

https://tinyurl.com/4cjzwt3w
[photo]
Posted by: andycanuck

Boring black. But it was in stock today at Sportsman's Warehouse and I was able to walk out the door with it. In a couple weeks the Communists running New Mexico are going to impose a 7 day waiting period before you can pick up a firearm because it saves lives so they without evidence. That may have influenced my decision to buy this thing today. In other news, it is dead accurate and I'm not.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:35 PM (ezhXT)

269 Night, weasel.
Yes, I’m old enough that I don’t care about shorter barrels/CQB, etc. I want a long barrel so I can keep the zombies away from a distance.
Yes, I want to create tiny holes in paper at a distance.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 09:35 PM (AbVrr)

270 Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:25 PM (69JzL)

If you're in any kind of terrain other than an open plain, it's highly unlikely that you'll be able to reach out beyond about 500 meters. Trees/vegetation, hills/ridges, make it unlikely that someone can use the full range capability of .308/7.62mm NATO.

I'm not a hunter. But if your rifle has capability that you'll never be able to use because of terrain, or your personal limitations, are you really sacrificing anything by dropping it in favor of saving weight? As the saying goes among modern day infantry, "Ounces equal pounds, and pounds equal pain."

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 09:35 PM (yRXSd)

271 Sure, you won't reach out to 1000+ meters as well, but 500 meters still gives a lot of reach in an urban/suburban setting.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 09:19 PM (yRXSd)

I have an AR-10 with an 18" barrel, and it's pretty solid out to 600 yards. And I have hit at 800+ yards (Thank you Weasel and RI Red!).

But damn! It's heavy. I know the newer receivers are lighter, and while I didn't want to wait, this is not a stroll in the park to carry.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 09:35 PM (gSZYf)

272 Weasel, always appreciate the thread, the info, the knowledge, the comments, and the camaraderie here.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 09:36 PM (hOUT3)

273 But damn! It's heavy. I know the newer receivers are lighter, and while I didn't want to wait, this is not a stroll in the park to carry.

As the old saying goes - you eventually get used to it. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 03, 2024 09:38 PM (V8he0)

274 That may have influenced my decision to buy this thing today.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:35 PM (ezhXT)


I have lots of guns I don't need because I bought for exactly that reason. F*ck you...I'm buying this because maybe tomorrow I can't.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 09:38 PM (gSZYf)

275 Thanks Weasel, as always

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 09:39 PM (GcNJ2)

276 Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:25 PM (69JzL)

Also, would you be able to positively ID your target as the right game animal in season from 500+ meters out? Unless you have some really good glass mounted to your rifle, I don't think you're going to take the shot in hunting situation unless you know for sure what you're shooting at. Most cheap scopes won't be able to give you the ability to positively ID what you're shooting at when you're 500+ meters out.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 09:39 PM (yRXSd)

277 I can keep the zombies away from a distance.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 09:35 PM (AbVrr)


Oh f*ck!

Posted by: The Zombie Horde at March 03, 2024 09:39 PM (gSZYf)

278 But damn! It's heavy. I know the newer receivers are lighter, and while I didn't want to wait, this is not a stroll in the park to carry.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

You need a SW MP 15/22. They are like 4.5 lbs. It is pretty useful inside of 100 yds. May less. A lot less. But it goes plink, plink, plink. I murdered many, many, many empty beer bottles today.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:39 PM (ezhXT)

279 Diogenes, Oliva doesn't have a bad stick in their (extensive) line-up, and their value proposition is unbeaten. Serie O, Serie V, Serie V Melanio, Serie G - all excellent, none very expensive. You should sample their wares.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 09:40 PM (GcNJ2)

280 Welll... I certainly hope I never need to escape handcuffs, but if I did, I hope I have my Swiss Army knife with me. News You Can (but hopefully will never have to) Use!

I've never lost the tweezers out of my S.A. knife, but I have lost the toothpick more than once.

Posted by: mindful webworker - who dini it at March 03, 2024 09:40 PM (SugAx)

281 I think I know these answers, but it's bugged me to see so many AR-10 barrels for sale down at 16" when I would think the point of an AR-10 would be to get that long distance.

I'm with you. My AR-10 wears a varmint profile 24" barrel. Weighs a frickin' ton. Not the rifle you want to be toting around the woods all day. I manage to carry it from the car to the bench and then back to the car.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2024 09:41 PM (sNc8Y)

282 Watching The Tracker on CBS right now. I had heard it was like Reacher but without guns.

But the Tracker guy is running around with a 1911.

He hasn't actually shot it so far.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 09:41 PM (IFNME)

283 What’s burning today? Have an Oliva Serie G going on the chilly back porch (our weak imitation of winter) while checking on the meat filling on the stove for a tourtiere I’m making tomorrow.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 07:25 PM (xHdZY)

I had an Olivia a few years back. (cigar...not strumpet)
A good smoke once I got it started.
Posted by: Diogenes

Got an Oliva sample pack a few years back.
Found the box press 'G' maduro my fav.
Neverfind them on sale though, so never got a box.

BTW - sample packs on sale from the various on-line retailers are a good way to enjoy rich diversity.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 09:41 PM (cOq4q)

284 That may have influenced my decision to buy this thing today.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:35 PM (ezhXT)

I have lots of guns I don't need because I bought for exactly that reason. F*ck you...I'm buying this because maybe tomorrow I can't.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Last week it was a Mossberg 500A 12 gauge. I may buy two more , three more before The Communists come down on me.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:41 PM (ezhXT)

285 Ok, CBD, you just convinced me.
Uncle will just have to wait.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 09:42 PM (AbVrr)

286 I have a couple of bolties in .308 with 16.5 in barrels. (Mossberg Patrol and Scout).

They are not heavy. I haven't been able to try them out for any distance past 100 yards. But at 100 they hit where they are pointed, that's for sure.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 09:43 PM (IFNME)

287 You need a SW MP 15/22. They are like 4.5 lbs. It is pretty useful inside of 100 yds. May less. A lot less. But it goes plink, plink, plink. I murdered many, many, many empty beer bottles today.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:39 PM (ezhXT)

I recently built the lightest AR-15 I could imagine without stupidly expensive titanium shit...

Why? Well, I told myself it was for my wife. But the reality is that building ARs is fun. The damned thing has an integrated muzzle device to save about an ounce! And the thinnest barrel I have ever seen.

And it is effortless to shoulder and loads of fun to shoot!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 09:44 PM (gSZYf)

288 Thanks, Ed, CBD, others.
I'm nowhere near buying one, yet. But someday I will.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:45 PM (69JzL)

289 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 09:35 PM (gSZYf)

.308/7.62mm NATO rifles will always be heavy and a PITA to lug around. The M110A1 rifle being delivered to the US Army weighs in at just under 15 pounds when fully outfitted with a scope, a loaded magazine, and a suppressor. You'll always have to strike a balancing act between your rifle's capabilities and your mobility.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 09:46 PM (yRXSd)

290 There is an ethical reason to *not* take a +400 yd. shot on big game animal.

The bullet's time in flight.

At 400 yds or less, the time in flight is negligible. Your well aimed heart shot is likely GOING to be a well landed heart shot. And your deer is either on the ground right NOW, or seconds afterward.

Let's make that a 600 yd. shot, now. That time in flight factor might be just enough for your deer to take a half-step towards it's next bit of forage. That heart shot? Maybe a gut shot, now. Maybe blow off half of a foreleg. Either way, you're inducing suffering where you wanted to produce your supper.

This does not apply to varmint shooting. Nail that Prairie Dawg from however far away you want, and are able.

No one wants their livestock to be stepping into a Prairie Dawg hole, and losing that animal to a broken leg.... maybe suffering a night and a day before being found, mortally wounded.

BTW. Commies are Varmints. That is all.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 03, 2024 09:46 PM (e6UQI)

291 Itinerant Alley Butcher, the Serie G (which I burned just now) is their cameroon line. But they have a maduro version of it, as they do of all their "Serie" cigars. They do go on sale at various places, but are not expensive to start with. One good online source, Cigar Page, has this curious thing where Serie Gs and other Oliva offerings will periodically drop about 40% in price, but no "sale" per se. Oliva is one of the biggest/oldest vertically integrated companies (from tobacco field to shipped cigar), so they can keep their costs and prices down.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 09:47 PM (GcNJ2)

292 Uncle will just have to wait.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 09:42 PM (AbVrr)

He's old and senile anyway.

You have lots of decisions ahead of you!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 09:47 PM (gSZYf)

293 Update on The Tracker - lots of people with guns. One person has been shot - offscreen.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 09:48 PM (IFNME)

294 Speaking of distance ...
https://gunfreezone.net/3699-yards-away/

Yeah. Pooched it and forgot to send the link to Mr. Weasel.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 09:48 PM (cOq4q)

295 That time in flight factor might be just enough for your deer to take a half-step towards it's next bit of forage.

Posted by: Jim at March 03, 2024 09:46 PM (e6UQI)


That's an important point. I wonder what our hunting commenters have to say about that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 09:49 PM (gSZYf)

296 CBD, first, I’m ordering hi viz sights for DILIT, plus a 3.5 lb trigger connector,
Then, I’m going to call up PSA . . .

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 09:50 PM (AbVrr)

297 Speaking of distance ...
https://gunfreezone.net/3699-yards-away/


Saw that a couple of days ago. Those were some banana-sized rounds she was throwing into that rifle. And a 7 second flight time. Jim's deer would be clean out of sight by then.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 03, 2024 09:50 PM (sNc8Y)

298 I recently built the lightest AR-15 I could imagine without stupidly expensive titanium shit...

Why? Well, I told myself it was for my wife. But the reality is that building ARs is fun. The damned thing has an integrated muzzle device to save about an ounce! And the thinnest barrel I have ever seen.

And it is effortless to shoulder and loads of fun to shoot!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

That is so great. This SW 15/22 is so much fun to shoot. I grew up as a kid shooting a 22 LR and I can't tell you how many decades it's been since I shot one. It was like coming back and being a 12-year-old me again today. Coyotes in NM can be hunted without a license and without limit year round. I may have plans. Or not. This 15/22 belongs in every arsenal. Really.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:51 PM (ezhXT)

299 Ok, going to bed. I know we’ll get over 300.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 09:51 PM (AbVrr)

300 300!

Posted by: TRex at March 03, 2024 09:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

301 300 300!
Posted by: TRex


Well done!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 09:53 PM (hOUT3)

302 TRex, you da man. Good night.

Posted by: RI Red at March 03, 2024 09:53 PM (AbVrr)

303 Dear Lord, with this post, I dost thank Thee for Thine Close Tags, savingest me from the perditions of the Seventh Circle of the Punishments of Thine Barrel.

Amen.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 03, 2024 09:53 PM (e6UQI)

304 I'm pretty sure the best guns on The Tracker are his arms. At least that's what I've heard. **cough cough**

Posted by: Iris, Team Hedgehog at March 03, 2024 09:53 PM (n3DL0)

305 #294 3699-yards-away

"I can’t drive that far without stopping to take a leak."

LOL

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 09:53 PM (2yu8s)

306 Funny story from DMV miniMoMe today. At dinner after the range aguy obviously overheard our conversation. He said he had purchased a cast iron cannon at an antique store labeled as a 1795 cannon and it cost him a $1000.

Turns out, though, the seller had misread the Roman numerals on the gun and it was actualy a 1595 cannon. Worth more, apparently. He sold it for $125,000.

Was it a BS story? Dunno. But funny nonetheless.

Posted by: blaster at March 03, 2024 09:54 PM (IFNME)

307 Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 09:48 PM (cOq4q)

Nice ass...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 09:54 PM (gSZYf)

308 Posted by: Jim at March 03, 2024 09:53 PM (e6UQI)

Or the coblogger who noticed....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 09:55 PM (gSZYf)

309 When I finally get around to building my first AR I do want it as light as possible (and affordable). Don't expect I'll be carrying it any further than car-to-firing-line, ever, but still.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 09:55 PM (GcNJ2)

310 Diogenes, Oliva doesn't have a bad stick in their (extensive) line-up, and their value proposition is unbeaten. Serie O, Serie V, Serie V Melanio, Serie G - all excellent, none very expensive. You should sample their wares.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 09:40 PM (GcNJ2)
***

Adds to list.
Looks at list.
Damn! This is getting pricey!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 03, 2024 09:56 PM (W/lyH)

311 200 200!
Posted by: TRex

300 300!
Posted by: TRex
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TRex using much better sights than m in the weekday day threads!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 09:56 PM (2yu8s)

312 When I finally get around to building my first AR I do want it as light as possible (and affordable). Don't expect I'll be carrying it any further than car-to-firing-line, ever, but still.
Posted by: rhomboid

I picked up a Smith& Wesson AR-15 sport for stupidly little money at a gun show about 5 years ago. It's not a fancy AR but it is an AR and it's fun to shoot. Now that I bought this goofy and great Smith& Wesson 15/22 I'm thinking I want to go back and trick out the AR 15 and 15/22 for reasons. I had so much fun with that 22LR today I can't even begin to tell you.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:58 PM (ezhXT)

313 Posted by: Jim at March 03, 2024 09:46 PM (e6UQI)

Excellent points, Jim!

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 09:58 PM (69JzL)

314 311 200 200!
Posted by: TRex

300 300!
Posted by: TRex
=======
TRex using much better sights than m in the weekday day threads!
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 09:56 PM (2yu8s)


Starting to look like maths!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 03, 2024 09:58 PM (hOUT3)

315 Smith& Wesson 15/22 been mentioned a lot here...

Posted by: Smith& Wesson 15/22 Algorisms at March 03, 2024 09:59 PM (SYTee)

316 Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 09:51 PM (ezhXT)

I think LiS really, really, REALLY likes his new gun.

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 10:00 PM (69JzL)

317 >>> They do go on sale at various places, but are not expensive to start with. One good online source, Cigar Page, has this curious thing where Serie Gs and other Oliva offerings will periodically drop about 40% in price,

Thanks, will have to check Cigar Page out.
I am Mr. El Cheapo on pretty much everything.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 03, 2024 10:00 PM (cOq4q)

318 Posted by: rhomboid at March 03, 2024 09:55 PM (GcNJ2)

My vote is for a replica retro model of the old Vietnam era XM177E2/CAR-15 carbine used by MACVSOG (SEALS, Green Berets, etc.). Five and half pounds empty. Six pounds and change when loaded. You can't get much lighter than that. Replica parts should be readily available from PSA if you can't get the whole rifle from them.

Posted by: Ed L at March 03, 2024 10:01 PM (yRXSd)

319 ONT is up!

Posted by: GWB at March 03, 2024 10:03 PM (69JzL)

320 I think LiS really, really, REALLY likes his new gun.
Posted by: GWB

I do, I do, I do.

Posted by: Lost in Space at March 03, 2024 10:03 PM (ezhXT)

321 ...Or the coblogger who noticed....Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2024 09:55 PM (gSZYf)



I wish I had an Old Jewish Aunt translator on this keyboard. I'd thank you propah for the Mitzvah you've done. Oy Vey!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 03, 2024 10:03 PM (e6UQI)

322 A cannon of 1595:

https://tinyurl.com/yntknz99

Earlier barrels had alot more decoration on them than late-18th Century ones.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at March 03, 2024 10:04 PM (2yu8s)

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