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Saturday Evening Moviethread [moviegique]: A Man Called Ove

Back in 2016, The Boy and I decided this Swedish film was one of the best of the year, and dreaded the inevitable remake with Tom Hanks, which did finally come out last year. We didn't see it, but I'll still enthusiastically recommend the original.

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While we have seen some good movies this year and a fair number of okay movies, there haven't been many at all that made us sit up and say, "Wow, this is easily one of the year's best!" You know, if you go to the movies a lot, you get a sense for film that's going to stand out, no matter whether it's January or (as in this case) October. This Swedish slice-of-life drama/black-comedy is one of those films.

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Oscar-worthy.

Ove is a grumpy, old man who stalks around his little community terrorizing anyone who dares to break the rules. He's an old school blue collar guy, possibly even illiterate—I'm trying to remember if he actually reads anything in the movie—but the guy you go to if you need some fixed. Or, really, if you just need something done. Curiously, despite his crankiness, the people of his community have a kind of mixed reaction to him. The rule breakers hate him, sure, but everyone else sort of treats him either mildly or with gentle attempts at friendship (summarily rejected).

As it turns out, Ove is a widow. A fairly recent widow. His wife was delightful, it seems, and even old Ove wasn't such a bad guy, as pissed off as he is now. But Ove, as we've noted here, is a doer, and, on the surface, this movie is about his multiple suicide attempts.

I know: Swedish, right?

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Ove's new bosses. Pencil-necked geeks are the same the world over.

This is hilarious. I mean, it's poignant for the fact that he misses his wife, and so day after day, he visits her grave and promises they'll be together soon. But it's hilarious because he just can't pull it off. Like the old Parker poem:


Razors pain you
Rivers are damp
Acids stain you
Drugs cause cramps
Gas smells awful
Nooses give
Guns aren't lawful
You might as well live


The world, with its shoddy construction and constant need of attendance conspires against Ove to rob him of his reunion with his wife. But the attempts are cues for flashback, where we see Ove's often tragic and occasionally glorious (Swedish, amirite?) life with its terrible, tragic losses and his determination to make things better, even if that means grabbing the hammer and nails and fixing it himself.

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Explaining to his wife why he's late.

His arch-nemeses in life are the white shirts, who appear at various points in his life demanding things they have no right to, but always getting their way. Of course, I would look at this and say "government bureaucrats and their associated private sector cronies" but the Swedish interpretation may be different. It's not just that, of course: The white shirt represents all people who do nothing, who contribute nothing, whose sole purpose is to tell others what to do.

Ove doesn't care for them.

Eastwood's Sully doesn't either.

Interesting theme. Ove feels more like a WWII kind of guy though he's squarely in the post-War generation (Boomers, here in America) but his rustic background and outstanding ethical sense puts him above the crowd. And that's really where the seemingly petty tyrannies come from: Here in his little community, he has created with the agreement of the other tenants, a kind of well-ordered paradise where people can live in harmony—as long as they don't drive jävla Volvos—and even if they do drive Volvos, everyone can live together without killing each other if they live by the rules.

Which no one is much interested in these days.

The bit about Volvos is from the film. I wish the Old Man could've seen it because Ove drives Saabs, like a real man. (The Old Man loved a Saab.) He gets into a lifelong feud with an otherwise good neighbor because that guy drives Volvos. Despite his pecadillos, Ove is above-all ethical. The guy is so conscientious that when he contemplates blowing his brains out, he first lays out plastic everywhere so there won't be a big mess to clean up.

His concern for fairness and what's right is so severe that he rides a train for three weeks to give money back to a woman who buys a train ticket for him. She's so taken with him, that she asks for a date rather than repayment. And this becomes Mrs. Ove. It's a beautiful, beautiful love story. Imagine the opening scene of Up played out for about two hours, and you wouldn't be far off.

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Also, he rides the train for three weeks 'cause she's really cute.

It's just a great film; a simple story told well. It will be entered in this year's foreign language Oscar category and while I hope it wins, it lacks the sort of social harmonic that Oscar seems to demand most years. But that doesn't mean you have to miss it. And you shouldn't.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 06:30 PM




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1 My sis in law sent me the book about Ove some years ago, I didn't realize it had been made into a movie. It was a fairly good book, sounds like the movie tracks it well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 07:36 PM (S6gqv)

2 Hello

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 24, 2024 07:36 PM (PPaj1)

3 multiple suicide attempts.

I know: Swedish, right?

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Oh, stop complaining. You complained both days of summer last year!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 07:39 PM (FVME7)

4 Critical Drinker and Mauler watching Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home:

https://youtu.be/A0Svx2t-oLA?si=BHpF3RlFjQYNlo7H

I watched their video of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and enjoyed it quite a bit because of the bits of lore they provide during their livewatch party.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 24, 2024 07:39 PM (BpYfr)

5 The Hollywood remake with Tom Hanks was not so fresh. But I find it hard to watch Hanks anymore since he's been fingered as a pedo.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 07:40 PM (Mig/N)

6 "Ove is a widow"

A man is a widower when he loses his wife to death.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at February 24, 2024 07:44 PM (qPw5n)

7 @5

>>The Hollywood remake with Tom Hanks was not so fresh. But I find it hard to watch Hanks anymore since he's been fingered as a pedo.

He went from an Old Sweater Actor to a Old Moth Eaten and Stinking Like Old Man Sweater Actor after Sully.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 24, 2024 07:45 PM (XV/Pl)

8 Hanks has recently been in some decent stuff. I loved Greyhound. I found Finch on Apple TV and thought it was good. He and Spielberg have a series on Apple which is a Band of Brothers for the Eighth Air Force. Half decent and only a little woke.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 07:47 PM (Mig/N)

9 He went from an Old Sweater Actor to a Old Moth Eaten and Stinking Like Old Man Sweater Actor after Sully.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 24, 2024 07:45 PM (XV/Pl)

Evil eats away at people, not just their sweaters.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2024 07:47 PM (GtZ7X)

10 Speaking of the land of ice and snow, I watched a not terribly good movie set in Iceland this week, Operation Napoleon. Sitting in TV watching chair down in the family room freezing, I through what the hell am I doing watching a movie set on a glacier!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 07:49 PM (FVME7)

11 Last night we watched the theatrical short, called the wonderful story of Henry Sugar.
We were very entertained and it is a family friendly movie. Ben Kingsley was terrific..

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 24, 2024 07:49 PM (MeG8a)

12 I liked the story of Ove because it was a story about someone real, someone that was a lot like people you know, someone who had hurts and history and deep flaws and yet who still kept trying to do the right thing. And the story wasn't packed with violence or perversity or "messaging". It was just a story about a guy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 07:52 PM (S6gqv)

13 I rewatched a film I haven't seen in at least 30 years, My Favorite Year with Peter O'Toole. I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed it. O'Toole is great but everyone else is pretty forgettable. Even Jessica Harper, who I think is appealing.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 07:52 PM (Mig/N)

14 Skip you weren't waiting for the SpaceX launch were you?
Currently move to tomorrow (wind probably).

New T-Zero: February 25, 4:34 p.m. ET, 21:34 UTC, and 22:34 CET.

Posted by: Ciampino - Vandelay News #02 at February 24, 2024 07:53 PM (qfLjt)

15 Speaking of movie news . . .

Tyler Perry indefinitely suspends his $800 million studio expansion after seeing the new Sora AI videos: “Jobs Are Going to Be Lost”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 07:55 PM (FVME7)

16 Not sure how much will be here, internet is still acting up.
A Man Called Ove I would be fine to see it, doubt I would get the chance

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2024 07:55 PM (fwDg9)

17 If I remember correctly, in the Hollywood version Ove is called Otto. Pretty clever, huh?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 07:56 PM (Mig/N)

18 >>>It will be entered in this year's foreign language Oscar category

Why will an 8 year old movie be entered into this years Oscars?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2024 07:56 PM (klJTj)

19 If I remember correctly, in the Hollywood version Ove is called Otto. Pretty clever, huh?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly

Oh, I saw that and it was not terrible. Not memorable either as evidenced by the fact you had to hit me upside the head with a 2X4 before I remembered it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:01 PM (FVME7)

20 Why will an 8 year old movie be entered into this years Oscars?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous

It identifies as contemporary.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:02 PM (FVME7)

21 Internet has been goofy all afternoon, from taking minutes to load a page to make 1/2 a minute, sometimes never loading or pops up if not like it should.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2024 08:06 PM (fwDg9)

22 The best thing about "My Favorite Year" is that it's a thinly fictionalized retelling of the time that a very young Mel Brooks, who had a job as a writer for Sid Cesar's "My Show of Shows", was ordered by Sid Cesar to take care of a very alcoholic Errol Flynn for a weekend in NYC. Peter O'Toole does a fantastic job of portraying who Errol Flynn had become towards the end of his life, without anyone saying that's what he's doing.
So behind all the comedy and craziness, it's kind of a true story.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:06 PM (S6gqv)

23 Netflix has a recent German version of All Quiet on the Western Front. It includes some scenes of the delegation tasked with reaching an armistice agreement, even agreeing to every terrible French demand. I thought it was good, but depressing. Hey, it's German. Germany was losing 40,000 soldiers a day. They were out of soldiers.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 08:06 PM (Mig/N)

24 Evening.

A Man Called Ove appears to be available on Amazon Prine if anyone is interested.

I'm definitely interested.

Thank you for the review, 'Gique.

Posted by: Robert at February 24, 2024 08:06 PM (DDJ3I)

25 We've watched several Swedish movies, enjoyed them all. One was a comedy about a program where efficiency experts observed people in their homes, and they were promised a horse at the end of the program. This guy signs up thinking he's going to get a real horse, but it turns out it was a Dala horse. We enjoyed it but we decided Swedes are all kind of weird.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at February 24, 2024 08:07 PM (JrYM1)

26 I read the book several years ago. I remember liking it.

Just picked it up and paged through for a bit. Nothing like I remembered. Maybe my distaste for suicidal old guys multiplied after my asshole father killed himself after multiple attempts.

To each their own. I remembered Ove as being kind of cantankerous. He was adopted by a cantankerous old cat. And the neighbors fell in love with him because, despite himself, he treated them like his own children.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 24, 2024 08:07 PM (LuhK/)

27 Speaking of the land of ice and snow, a Bardcore version of The Immigrant Song in ancient Norse.

http://tinyurl.com/3hefxc5d

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:08 PM (FVME7)

28 A man is a widower when he loses his wife to death.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at February 24, 2024 07:44 PM (qPw5n)

Is there a word if a man loses his wife but not to death? Like if she's abducted by aliens and taken to the Andromeda Galaxy never to be seen again.

I bet the Germans have a word for it.

Posted by: Robert at February 24, 2024 08:09 PM (DDJ3I)

29 I got nothin' 🎬

Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 08:09 PM (geLO8)

30 Last Swede thing I watched was "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo"

Posted by: Ben Had at February 24, 2024 08:10 PM (J4YJJ)

31 I bet the Germans have a word for it.
Posted by: Robert

The Germans have a word for bra: Stoppemfrumfloppen.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 08:11 PM (Mig/N)

32 I watched a well-made film this week called "The Auschwitz Report." The director is a Slavak, & it's one of those multi-European productions.

It's a docudrama (NOT a documentary), based on the real life story of 2 men who escaped from that place in the spring of 1944. They delivered a first person, documented account of their experience to the International Red Cross-- they even brought a Zyklon B (cyanide gas) canister label out with them & delivered THAT to the Red Cross also.

Two thirds of the film is about their actual escape from Auschwitz, and it's VERY exciting indeed.

I was appalled, though, that the closing credits added a voiceover of Trump speaking-- because just like Hitler, get it? (except that Israel named a street in Jerusalem after Trump, but OTHER THAN THAT he's just like Hitler!)

The incredibly cheap leftist sermon at the end ruined the film for me, but it's a fascinating true story-- no liberties whatsoever were taken with the underlying facts.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:11 PM (NLIak)

33 Hiya Open Blogger !

May I call you Ope ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2024 08:12 PM (T4tVD)

34 Internet has been goofy all afternoon, from taking minutes to load a page to make 1/2 a minute, sometimes never loading or pops up if not like it should.
Posted by: Skip

I've had trouble today, too. I'm not saying it's aliens but . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:12 PM (FVME7)

35
Also in the Hollywood remake of One, they had a trannie enter into the story, because-

of course they did.

Your ticket to entertainment now includes an Eye-Rolling and Needless Irritation Tax.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2024 08:12 PM (nFnyb)

36 Of course, I would look at this and say "government bureaucrats and their associated private sector cronies" but the Swedish interpretation may be different. It's not just that, of course: The white shirt represents all people who do nothing, who contribute nothing, whose sole purpose is to tell others what to do.

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It's unpleasant to think about but I guess Sweden has been communist or communist-adjacent for longer than the U.S. has.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 08:13 PM (Wg1x4)

37 I suspect Ove is unusual in that it will appeal to men more than women, because they can empathize with the main character.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:13 PM (S6gqv)

38 13 I rewatched a film I haven't seen in at least 30 years, My Favorite Year with Peter O'Toole. I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed it. O'Toole is great but everyone else is pretty forgettable. Even Jessica Harper, who I think is appealing.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 07:52 PM (Mig/N)


"Double the lad's bet for me, you toad."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 24, 2024 08:14 PM (PiwSw)

39 I love Bardcore music, good to paint by

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2024 08:14 PM (fwDg9)

40 Now my internet seems right

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2024 08:14 PM (fwDg9)

41 Anybody else see the Swedish movie I was talking about with the Dala horse? I'd watch it again if I could remember the name of it.

My favorite foreign film is "Divided We Fall," a Czech film about WWII. It's a wonderful story about a husband and wife who end up hiding the Jewish son of the husband's former boss, who was taken with all of his family to a camp. It's so real. I found it very affecting and bought a copy. We've watched it numerous times.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at February 24, 2024 08:15 PM (JrYM1)

42 Ove sounds like Walt Kowalski's Swedish cousin.

Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2024 08:15 PM (SYTee)

43 Last week I watched an old favorite I'd not thought of in decades, "The Dead Zone" eith, of course, Christopher Walken, Martin Sheen, Tom Skerritt and Brooke Adams. I had forgotten just how great Walken was, and how Sheen's nutcase politician Greg Stilson was so perfectly rendered. Loved Brooke Adams and always had a crush on her. It really holds up and I think is the best adaption of a Stephen King story.

Then, also last week happened to stumble on another movie with Brooke Adams in it called "The Unborn," which is about a woman who has trouble getting pregnant who has some kind of alien superbaby implanted in her by an evil doctor. This movie went from implausible to absolute bonkers in a heartbeat and was really a much better movie than it had any right to be. I really enjoyed it and Adams was gorgeous in it.

Highly recommend both movies.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 24, 2024 08:15 PM (nbYK7)

44 Recently watched a 60s movie called The Hynotic Eye.

It's about a hypnotist who hypnotizes women into mutilating themselves.

It stars a bunch of people I don't know but more importantly a couple of hot babes and overall I really enjoyed it. It's kinda silly, I think it was aimed at teenagers, but the story is pretty solid. Whenever the hypnotist starts doing his thing the camera gets real close on him and the dude is honestly pretty charismatic. There's an extended sequence where he's performing in front of an audience and he's got all of them doing simple things like slapping their knees. Like I said it's kinda silly but really well done.

And the babes. Can't forget them.

Got it for ten bucks on Amazon.

Here's the Wikidingdong page.

http://tinyurl.com/y43bxkxm

Oh, neat, I trained autocorrect to recognize wikidingdong.

Posted by: Robert at February 24, 2024 08:16 PM (qxQAM)

45 My favorite foreign film is " Ushpizin"

Posted by: Ben Had at February 24, 2024 08:16 PM (J4YJJ)

46 I watched a well-reviewed foreign (French, I think) movie called 'Anatomy of a Fall'. Like 7.8 on IMDB. Very underwhelming and disappointing

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at February 24, 2024 08:17 PM (sJHOI)

47 I cannot watch anymore holocaust stories, no matter how well done they are. They make me feel sick and depressed for days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:17 PM (S6gqv)

48 I watched 'Power Play' from 1978. It's about a coup d'état in a fictional vaguely European country. It's all manuvering, mind games, and double crosses. Peter O'Toole is in it and he's fascinating, though he's not the main character. It's based on a book that is also about 'how to pull off a coup d'etat'. It's made for grown ups by grown ups. Though it's about a military coup, not the 2020 variety.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 24, 2024 08:17 PM (xcxpd)

49 I haven't seen it, but I wonder if Ove resonates with people, both men and women, because they consciously or subconsciously recognize it as a story of how men are designed and how they work. We've been slowly working to feminize and neuter men and it seems jarring to see a story like this told, but I'm betting a lot of guys can watch it and relate to it and the ideals shown in it, similar to Tombstone or Unforgiven.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 08:17 PM (Wg1x4)

50 As for Ove...eh. Anyone who really wants to kill themselves can manage it. Sounds like Ove didn't really want to. Which is fine; I just don't like wishy-washiness.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 24, 2024 08:18 PM (xcxpd)

51 I cannot watch anymore holocaust stories, no matter how well done they are. They make me feel sick and depressed for days.
Posted by: Tom Servo

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Same here. I can't make it through war movies any more, either. I tried to watch the Brad Pitt tank movie recently and it was outstanding but I had to turn it off. Effects have gotten to the point where the brutalism is too real.

I should try to watch something like the Longest Day to see if that's the same or if it's the CGI doing it.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 08:20 PM (Wg1x4)

52 This Swedish slice-of-life drama/black-comedy

It's only Feb 24th.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2024 08:20 PM (IG4Id)

53 I rewatched Death of Stalin for the first time since early Covid. I enjoyed it even more. Buscemi is great as Khrushtov and the guy who played Beria was pretty manic, but my favorite character was played by Michael Palin. He was really good.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 08:20 PM (Mig/N)

54 I watched "Shazam" in 4K, a really fun DCEU movie that remembered that comic book movies should be enjoyable. Mark Strong RULES.

Also watched "Singin' in the Rain" also in 4K. What a marvelous film.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 24, 2024 08:20 PM (CHHv1)

55 32 mnw

Was the docudrama based on a recent book? It seems like I've read about those guys.

The Red Cross was at Theresienstadt filming during the war. They made a movie about how good life was there, showing the gardens the inmates grew, and the school for the kids etc. Pure propaganda.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at February 24, 2024 08:21 PM (JrYM1)

56 Also started watching "Masters of the Air" the other day. Not on the level of Band of Brothers or The Pacific from a story, production or acting point of view, but still a nice slice of American history and I'm glad they put it on film.

One thing I will say is that it shouldn't be called "Masters of the Air." Our airmen were slaughtered pretty wholesale and while we and the British bombed the fuck out of Germany, most postwar analysis doesn't find the results of the effort on the German war machine to be worth the unholy number of men and aircraft we lost. It was a daily bloodbath even with fighter protection until very late in the war. They were men of extraordinary courage whose lives were sold too cheaply, I think.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 24, 2024 08:23 PM (nbYK7)

57 The Red Cross was at Theresienstadt filming during the war. They made a movie about how good life was there, showing the gardens the inmates grew, and the school for the kids etc. Pure propaganda.
Posted by: TecumsehTea

Narrated by Karine Jean-Pierre?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:24 PM (FVME7)

58 3 multiple suicide attempts.

I know: Swedish, right?

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Oh, stop complaining. You complained both days of summer last year!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 07:39 PM (FVME7)

Big deal! Northern Sweden (where we are from) has a suicide rate that is only like 30 times higher than the rest of the world!

Posted by: Meshuggah at February 24, 2024 08:24 PM (8sMut)

59 It was a daily bloodbath even with fighter protection until very late in the war. They were men of extraordinary courage whose lives were sold too cheaply, I think.
Posted by: Sharkman

I'm watching it and wondering when they're gonna get some decent air support. When was the P-51 introduced?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 08:25 PM (Mig/N)

60 >>The Hollywood remake with Tom Hanks was not so fresh. But I find it hard to watch Hanks anymore since he's been fingered as a pedo.

He went from an Old Sweater Actor to a Old Moth Eaten and Stinking Like Old Man Sweater Actor after Sully.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 24, 2024 07:45 PM (XV/Pl)

Hank's directed the movie 'That Thing that you Do'... good fun 60's type musical flick... about a 1 hit wonder band.

And of course, in the Directors cut, they make it clear that the Character Hank's plays in the movie, is of course... gay... but only in the directors cut...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 24, 2024 08:27 PM (xaFKb)

61 most postwar analysis doesn't find the results of the effort on the German war machine to be worth the unholy number of men and aircraft we lost.

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I've heard that among our problems was that we should've used more 1000 lbs. bombs rather than our standard load out of 500 lbs. bombs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:27 PM (FVME7)

62 "Empire of the Sun" has a couple scenes that show off the p-51 better than any other movie ever has.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:27 PM (S6gqv)

63 47 Servo

I'm hip to that.

I've watched dozens of them, I guess. The Holocaust is inherently dramatic, & SOME are quite excellent.

It interests me how various people caught up in it reacted to it.

In the film I mentioned, the International Red Cross comes off as virtually worthless. Same outfit that can't arrange to see the Israeli hostages, or get medicine to them. Some things never change.

Former Chancellor Willi Brandt worked for the German IRC during WW II... and the film I referenced sort of puts Brandt in a new light, at least for me. The IRC went along with the phony postcards scam ("Just arrived. We're all in good health. Waiting for our work assignments. Kids are fine.").

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:27 PM (NLIak)

64 Mrs.E just made me watch the last 15 minutes of Auntie Mame. For probably the fourth time in 25 years. It’s the only part of the movie I’ve ever seen, and that’s a damn plenty.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2024 08:27 PM (NxC5+)

65 23 Netflix has a recent German version of All Quiet on the Western Front. It includes some scenes of the delegation tasked with reaching an armistice agreement, even agreeing to every terrible French demand. I thought it was good, but depressing. Hey, it's German. Germany was losing 40,000 soldiers a day. They were out of soldiers.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 08:06 PM (Mig/N)

For teaching WWI, I used 1917, a clip from that All Quiet on the Western Front series, the 1980 All Quiet on the Western Front movie (god that was depressing, with Ernest Borgnine and John-Boy) and Paths of Glory.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:28 PM (8sMut)

66 54 I watched "Shazam" in 4K, a really fun DCEU movie that remembered that comic book movies should be enjoyable. Mark Strong RULES.

Also watched "Singin' in the Rain" also in 4K. What a marvelous film.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 24, 2024 08:20 PM (CHHv1)

Just watched Singing in the Rain last night... funny how they used to make Musicals that guys would watch.

Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum... Streets of Fire... Paint your Wagon... Even West Side Story... or Little Shop of Horrors...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 24, 2024 08:30 PM (xaFKb)

67 Death of Stalin is something I should watch
Watched a YouTube on his death other day, glad he had a miserable last few days before going to Hell

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2024 08:30 PM (fwDg9)

68 I'm watching it and wondering when they're gonna get some decent air support. When was the P-51 introduced?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly

Late 1943.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:30 PM (FVME7)

69 For teaching WWI, I used 1917, a clip from that All Quiet on the Western Front series, the 1980 All Quiet on the Western Front movie (god that was depressing, with Ernest Borgnine and John-Boy) and Paths of Glory.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:28 PM (8sMut)

Last episode of Black Adder.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 24, 2024 08:30 PM (xaFKb)

70 His concern for fairness and what's right is so severe that he rides a train for three weeks to give money back to a woman who buys a train ticket for him.

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I really like this part because this is Western Civilization, and up until 20 or so years ago I would've suggested these sorts of vague actions were part of that fondly remembered and quickly vanishing American Ideal. Yeah I know they're Swedes, but that Western Civilization upbringing came over here to form our nation and morals.

It's interesting to note that once we began focusing on and celebrating multiculturalism in Americans (yay February!) instead of just living as a multicultural melting pot of Americans we began to lose this sort of thing.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 08:31 PM (Wg1x4)

71
If I remember correctly, in the Hollywood version Ove is called Otto. Pretty clever, huh?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly


Repo Man

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2024 08:31 PM (63Dwl)

72 62 "Empire of the Sun" has a couple scenes that show off the p-51 better than any other movie ever has.
Posted by: Tom Servo



'The Cadillac of the Skies!'. I really enjoyed that movie. Beautiful ending. Haven't seen it in years though. Probably still holds up. Spielberg used to make great, watchable movie.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 24, 2024 08:34 PM (Xr4QU)

73 Recently saw "Birth" (2004) streaming on Criterion

a big flop for writer/director Jonathon Glazer involving a woman who's husband dies and ten years later she's moved on and ready to get married again when a ten year old boy shows up claiming to be her reincarnated husband and he wants to get back together with her.

Sounds like a comedy, right?
Nope. It's a played as a deadly serious drama.

To hear the director talk, it's a movie about love and the eternal aspects of love. In reality,(at least for me) it plays as a very well-made arthouse horror movie.

The characters all have well-ordered lives when the boy shows up and essentially destroys everyone's lives esp the woman who was the dead man's wife. It plays as a kind of haunting.

The central mystery of whether the boy is her reincarnated husband or it's something else is answered or at least given an explanation, which you can more or less figure out if you pay attention at the beginning. Still, it's an incomplete answer, as I think the director wants to have his cake and eat it too regarding reincarnation.

I wound up liking it quite a bit by the end. (con't)

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2024 08:35 PM (nFnyb)

74 Former Chancellor Willi Brandt worked for the German IRC during WW II... and the film I referenced sort of puts Brandt in a new light, at least for me. The IRC went along with the phony postcards scam ("Just arrived. We're all in good health. Waiting for our work assignments. Kids are fine.").
Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:27 PM (NLIak)

Did he? Herbert Karl Frahm, according to Frederick Taylor: "...was granted Norwegian citizenship by the country's government in exile and then a licence to practise as a journalist. He opened a Swedish-Norwegians news agency with two local colleagues, reporting on the situation in Sweden and in occuoide Norway, and acting as stringers for agencies for agencies in American and th United Kingdom. Brandt (the name he adopted in Norway and used thereafter) was undoubtedly also involved with Allied intelligence."

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:35 PM (8sMut)

75 Just watched Singing in the Rain last night... funny how they used to make Musicals that guys would watch.

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I would bet big money the shift corresponds directly to the gay rights movement of the 70s.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 08:36 PM (Wg1x4)

76 Hi!!!

I borrowed The Boat That Rocked, aka Pirate Radio from the library this week, and had a blast watching it. There was no moralizing, no scolding, no weird sex. There were a whole lot of side plots played out very well.

The casting was delightful. Philip Seymour Hoffman was wonderful. I could spend all night raving about his physical stunts. Bill Nighy was equally fantastic. Dry, stiff upper lip, doing his damndest to exert some kind of organization and control. Somebody Ifans played Venus Flytrap, only so much more.

I suppose one of the reasons I liked it so much was because the soundtrack was my high school years and I knew the words to every song. I was a little too young to have experienced the American version of the story, but during the early '60s, all the small radio stations had to close up shop at night,leaving the airwaves to the big boys. There I was, in suburban south Jersey, listening to NYC and Boston djs. Depending on the weather conditions, my little transistor radio pulled in Texas.




Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at February 24, 2024 08:37 PM (ET1Q8)

77 55 Tecumseh

It was definitely based on a book, though not a recent one. One of the 2 Auschwitz escapees published his autobiography circa 1960, I think.

There was a REAL "Auschwitz Report" in which the Red Cross and other agencies pulled together all the known accounts of the German extermination camps. There were several first hand reports, not just this one. FDR actually read it.

Many were skeptical at the time because of all the phony WW I atrocity reports. During WW I, many French newspapers published a regular front page column, entitled "Les Atrocities Allemand." Total bullshit.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:38 PM (NLIak)

78 69: Indirectly used on Veterans Day, when I presented to class a reading by the British (Lotus Eaters affiliated) YouTuber History Bro of "In Flanders Fields" which was read over that episode IIRC.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:38 PM (8sMut)

79 There is a good WWI movie on YouTube, at least that's where I saw it with Daniel Craig, not sure name of it.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2024 08:39 PM (fwDg9)

80 Death of Stalin is something I should watch
Watched a YouTube on his death other day, glad he had a miserable last few days before going to Hell
Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2024 08:30 PM (fwDg9)


It is a good movie, it helps if you have some idea of what is going on because it might be hard to grasp that everything revolved around Stalin, and the chances were that he was going to purge anyone on a whim.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2024 08:40 PM (D7oie)

81 The thing was a lot of movies pre-60'sish had a musical component. Rio Bravo might be the one that jumps out at me right off the bat, but Doris Day movies are another example.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 08:40 PM (di6C2)

82 LOL Eromero! The wife likes Auntie Mame for some reason; I try not to pay too much attention if it's on.
We've laughed about movies you only see the ending of; before cable, "The Robe" with Richard Burton was always shown on good Friday, but we always want to Church. It would always be ending when we got home, so by the time I was 20 or so i had seen the ending of The Robe (where Richard Burton and Gene Simmons stroll off into heaven together) about 12 times, and never seen any of the rest of the movie.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:40 PM (S6gqv)

83 67 Death of Stalin is something I should watch
Watched a YouTube on his death other day, glad he had a miserable last few days before going to Hell
Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2024 08:30 PM (fwDg9)

He fought The Inevitable for a week. Odd behavior for one who breezily killed tens of millions.

Mao was the same way.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:41 PM (8sMut)

84 75 Just watched Singing in the Rain last night... funny how they used to make Musicals that guys would watch.

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I would bet big money the shift corresponds directly to the gay rights movement of the 70s.
Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples



Oh c'mon! 'Heavy Metal' came out in 1981! Male, hetero, musical if there ever was one!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 24, 2024 08:41 PM (Xr4QU)

85 And this becomes Mrs. Ove

It's hard to tell from the context; is this Mrs. Ove I or Mrs. Ove II?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2024 08:41 PM (a3Q+t)

86 I finished Monsieur Spade and liked it. However, in the final episode a black female from the US shows up in 1962 France to solve all the problems and explain it all (none to clearly).

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:42 PM (FVME7)

87 57 The Red Cross was at Theresienstadt filming during the war. They made a movie about how good life was there, showing the gardens the inmates grew, and the school for the kids etc. Pure propaganda.
Posted by: TecumsehTea

Narrated by Karine Jean-Pierre?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:24 PM (FVME7)

This was depicted in both the novel and the miniseries "War and Remembrance".

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:43 PM (8sMut)

88 multiple suicide attempts.
I know: Swedish, right?


So, death by lutefisk isn't a Thing?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2024 08:43 PM (a3Q+t)

89 (con't)

Intelligent script. Awesome acting by all involved esp Nicole Kidman who is her most gorgeous here. Truly beautiful.
Great direction in a Kubrickian style.

Very odd movie. Not made for everyone. Check it out if it sounds interesting to you.

The threat of some kind of pedophilic action might seem inherent in the story, but that's not what this story is about. So, that never happens. Thank God.
Still, there are some moments that will make you cringe, but nothing gross or nasty happens.

This director made "Sexy Beast" "Under the Skin", and "Zone of Interest". SB and UtS are also both good movies currently streaming on Criterion as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2024 08:44 PM (nFnyb)

90 Odd behavior for one who breezily killed tens of millions.

Mao was the same way.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Didi Mao!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:44 PM (FVME7)

91 I would bet big money the shift corresponds directly to the gay rights movement of the 70s.
Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples


We're Men!
Men In Tights!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2024 08:45 PM (a3Q+t)

92 Last scene of Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2024 08:46 PM (NxC5+)

93 87 Tecumseh and C-33

That's consistent with what I posted about the IRC buying right into the phony postcards, hook, line & sinker.

The IRC relied heavily on their German IRC counterparts.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:46 PM (NLIak)

94 a woman who's husband dies and ten years later she's moved on and ready to get married again when a ten year old boy shows up claiming to be her reincarnated husband and he wants to get back together with her.
Posted by: naturalfake


This description should belong to an anime show, but it doesn't.

There's an episode of Mushi-shi, "The Shrine in the Sea," that plays this out in reverse with a couple of the background characters.

There's a mystical creature in the ocean who will consume drowned people, and produce "eggs" that living women can consume..... which leave them pregnant with the reincarnation of the drowned person. One of the "couples" in the village is waiting for the reincarnated one to come of age before getting married again.

The main characters in the episode are a woman who rebirthed her own mother this way, and her daughter/mother who is a bit confused as to why people call her by her previous name.

Posted by: mikeski is not his own grandpaw at February 24, 2024 08:46 PM (DgGvY)

95 We're Men!
Men In Tights!
Posted by: Duncanthrax

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That's an interesting point because that was back when normal people could still make jokes. Musicals were dead unless they were making fun of musicals.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 08:47 PM (Wg1x4)

96 There I was, in suburban south Jersey, listening to NYC and Boston djs. Depending on the weather conditions, my little transistor radio pulled in Texas.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at February 24, 2024 08:37 PM


No Wolfman Jack for you!

Posted by: Murray the K at February 24, 2024 08:48 PM (a3Q+t)

97 Agreed, Puddleglum! Empire of the Sun is one of those movies that takes a very dark subject matter, confronts it honestly, and still comes up with a very uplifting resolution.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:48 PM (S6gqv)

98 47 I cannot watch anymore holocaust stories, no matter how well done they are. They make me feel sick and depressed for days.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:17 PM (S6gqv

Oh what the hell, one more tale from my history class: I showed the class the Holocaust scenes from "War and Remembrance". (Part 2, the test run at Auschwitz and Part 11, Aaron being murdered with a few thousand others at Auschwitz) This being done five times in a day, which meant me watching it five times in a day...I was in the mood for comedies by the time I got home.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:49 PM (8sMut)

99 multiple suicide attempts.
I know: Swedish, right?

So, death by lutefisk isn't a Thing?
Posted by: Duncanthrax


That's a Norwegian suicide method, not Swedish.

Posted by: mikeski is from MN, trust him on this at February 24, 2024 08:50 PM (DgGvY)

100 Pouring gasoline on yourself and lighting a match>watching Killers of the Flower Moon

There's my review for that steaming pile of shit. I'm at my end with the Native American thing. Watching that spinoff of Yellowstone 1923 has pretty much done me in on any sympathy for them I had left.I can't take any more of the woes me stuff. I don't even tolerate that for myself. Suck it up and get the F on with life.

Yeah human nature has been and still is atrocious. Get a helmet.

Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 08:50 PM (IlL6s)

101 Heh. Juxtaposition:
Insty:
NO SURPRISE: Fox calls South Carolina for Trump as soon as polls close.

Posted at 7:02 pm by Glenn Reynolds

ewetub video title:
Haley seeks to make up ground against Trump in GOP race
CBS Evening News
1.3K views
54 minutes ago


Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 08:51 PM (di6C2)

102 87 57 The Red Cross was at Theresienstadt filming during the war. They made a movie about how good life was there, showing the gardens the inmates grew, and the school for the kids etc. Pure propaganda.
Posted by: TecumsehTea
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The Red Cross has always been a commie POS.
Grramps, in France, said the Red Cross sold soldiers donuts while the Salvation Army gave them away.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 24, 2024 08:52 PM (Lf+TO)

103 101: when you cannot win your own damn home state...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:52 PM (8sMut)

104 Yeah human nature has been and still is atrocious. Get a helmet.
Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 08:50 PM (IlL6s)

It was a fine example of a movie that I thought: why would I want to watch that? Human misery is everywhere. The best example is a nasty argument I got into with a girl over her wanting me to watch Requiem for a Dream. No.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 08:53 PM (di6C2)

105 A H Lloyd and I have discussed more than once how "Death of Stalin " behind the comedy, is probably by far the most honest and realistic film about the Soviet Union, and about Communism in general, that has ever been made.
And we also agreed that you come out of that film absolutely loving Marshall Zhukov, the only Real Man in the whole bunch.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:53 PM (S6gqv)

106 Anymore news on that Civil War movie that is coming out? Is it just going to be some leftist fantasy movie about exterminating a segment of the population that disagrees with them?

Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IlL6s)

107 101: when you cannot win your own damn home state...
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

I know, right?!

Posted by: Al Gore at February 24, 2024 08:53 PM (Mig/N)

108 Thanks, mnw. I know I read something recently about a true story very similar - but maybe I'm confused about the book itself being recent.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at February 24, 2024 08:54 PM (JrYM1)

109 Sounds like a wonderful movie. Based on watching the trailer, I won't be able to watch it for awhile. Just too soon for me.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 08:54 PM (ynpvh)

110 106 Anymore news on that Civil War movie that is coming out? Is it just going to be some leftist fantasy movie about exterminating a segment of the population that disagrees with them?
Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IlL6s)

Journalists are the REAL heroes. That is pretty much all I heard from a few months back.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 08:55 PM (di6C2)

111 South Carolina primary:

With 65% in, Trump beating Haley by 22 points, in line with expectations.

Not bad at all considering SC is her homestate, & she used to be Governor.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:55 PM (NLIak)

112 Is that my cue? What's a war hero have to do to get some lubrication?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at February 24, 2024 08:55 PM (os8zY)

113 NO SURPRISE: Fox calls South Carolina for Trump as soon as polls close.

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Last I saw it was Trump 60% and Nikki just under 40% with a smattering of others. Nikki did better than I expected.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:55 PM (FVME7)

114 Not bad at all considering SC is her homestate, & she used to be Governor.
Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:55 PM (NLIak)

Might be why she lost.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 08:56 PM (di6C2)

115
I know, right?!
Posted by: Al Gore at February 24, 2024 08:53 PM (Mig/N)

Better: Rush Limbaugh on the whole FL voting debacle in 2000:

"You realize had Algore just won his home state of TN this whole thing would be academic?"

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:56 PM (8sMut)

116 >>> 106 Anymore news on that Civil War movie that is coming out? Is it just going to be some leftist fantasy movie about exterminating a segment of the population that disagrees with them?
Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IlL6s)

There's a character in the preview who has won the nickname Apocalypse Elton John...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 24, 2024 08:56 PM (llON8)

117 I remember a Woody Allen, forget the movie. He was recalling a really bad date, and he said "Oh yeah, it was real fun, like watching the Nuremburg Trials."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:56 PM (S6gqv)

118 114 Not bad at all considering SC is her homestate, & she used to be Governor.
Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:55 PM (NLIak)

Might be why she lost.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 08:56 PM (di6C2)

My sis asked me who I would vote for, Haley or Biden?

My response: Alfred E. Neuman.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:57 PM (8sMut)

119 Is that my cue? What's a war hero have to do to get some lubrication?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov

I liked how the first crew arrived at Stalin's dacha where he died to square things away, arrest and shoot the servants. Then, another crew showed up to shoot the first crew. Soviet efficiency!

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 08:57 PM (Mig/N)

120 Yeah human nature has been and still is atrocious.

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See e.g. Chicago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 08:57 PM (FVME7)

121 Nikki did better than I expected.

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Open primary.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 08:58 PM (Wg1x4)

122 105 A H Lloyd and I have discussed more than once how "Death of Stalin " behind the comedy, is probably by far the most honest and realistic film about the Soviet Union, and about Communism in general, that has ever been made.
And we also agreed that you come out of that film absolutely loving Marshall Zhukov, the only Real Man in the whole bunch.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 08:53 PM (S6gqv)

I still LMAO at the part where the conspiring is going on even as they are pallbearers for Stalin. And Zhukov was brilliantly done.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 08:59 PM (8sMut)

123 @ 96 Murray the K- Growing up in the 50s-60s South Carolina I had a little transistor radio and at night I’d listen to rock and roll AM stations WOWO out of Ft Wayne Indiana, WCFL Chicago, WLAC Nashville. Oh yeah.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2024 08:59 PM (NxC5+)

124 111 South Carolina primary:
With 65% in, Trump beating Haley by 22 points, in line with expectations.
Not bad at all considering SC is her homestate, & she used to be Governor.
Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:55 PM (NLIak)

"Haley’s team insists the show will go on... 'We know that Trump is a juggernaut. We know that he is strong. We know that he has been the de facto leader of the party for the past eight years.'"

So why keep on running guys? Only because the Dems, CoCsuckers, and Deep-Staters want you to. Gotta keep your bosses happy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 08:59 PM (ynpvh)

125 The Babylon Bee had a headline. Movies to help men suffering from depression: Tombstone..

I offer another. Secondhand Lions.

Young men need to know that being a man is not a bad thing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, stoopid iPad at February 24, 2024 08:59 PM (T/Lqj)

126 The Red Cross has always been a commie POS.

My mother, who was in her teens during WWII hated, I mean, hated the Red Cross. She told me the same thing about them selling donuts to the soldiers.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at February 24, 2024 09:00 PM (JrYM1)

127 113 A-Wrecks

The RCP average of all polls was about Trump +23, so my opinion is that "exceeded expectations" is liberal journo wishcasting.

WHAT expectations did she exceed?

They're trying to revive a corpse.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:00 PM (NLIak)

128 Young men need to know that being a man is not a bad thing.


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Yep. One of the best scenes in that movie is when Doc is being asked why he's risking death, and he says because Wyatt is his friend.

"Heck Doc, I got lots of friends."
"I don't."

Men understand this.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 09:01 PM (Wg1x4)

129 or Little Shop of Horrors...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 24, 2024 08:30 PM (xaFKb)

I rewatched that for the first time in...holy shit...decades!

Bountiful cleavage. Yum.

And the songs were really fun, too!

Audrey II was voiced by some R&B vocalist. Did a fantastic job.

Posted by: Robert at February 24, 2024 09:01 PM (UN/Uo)

130 >>> 127 113 A-Wrecks

The RCP average of all polls was about Trump +23, so my opinion is that "exceeded expectations" is liberal journo wishcasting.

WHAT expectations did she exceed?

They're trying to revive a corpse.
Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:00 PM (NLIak)

They've got lots of practice with Brandon.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 24, 2024 09:01 PM (llON8)

131 what does she hope to achieve, running such a quixotic campaign

Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:02 PM (geLO8)

132 I still LMAO at the part where the conspiring is going on even as they are pallbearers for Stalin. And Zhukov was brilliantly done.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

I liked how it ended just as the credits rolled. Nikita watching a concert and behind him, glaring at him, is Leonid Brezhnev who removed Nikita from power. Funny.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:02 PM (Mig/N)

133 Gavin Newsom: "I don't know why Democrats would want her out of the race. She's one of our better surrogates. I mean, she's defining the opposition to Trump credibly, effectively."

Oops, I guess he said too much.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:02 PM (ynpvh)

134 IIRC the original Little Shop of Horrors was the result of a bet that a movie couldn't be made in some ridiculously short amount of time. 48 hours comes to mind but that's probably wrong.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 09:02 PM (Wg1x4)

135 what does she hope to achieve, running such a quixotic campaign
Posted by: Don Black

She's banking bucks.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 09:03 PM (FVME7)

136 TCM played Shoah a couple weeks ago. 7 hours long.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2024 09:03 PM (63Dwl)

137 133

Newsome said the quiet part out loud.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:04 PM (NLIak)

138 As I mentioned earlier this week when an awards show was handing out accolades, I watched this thing called Oppenheimer and it was very well made, but I was convinced that it was scaled down to not bore a non-scientist to death and scaled up to create intrigue for the politically minded dorks who have a modern day agenda.

It was okay. It was a milestone for the history of mankind in the universe.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 24, 2024 09:04 PM (EEgXH)

139 48 hours comes to mind but that's probably wrong.
Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples

Roger Corman was a machine. I bet he made money on it too.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:04 PM (Mig/N)

140 Creating the perception that there are people who are actually against Trump so that when the 1-2% cheat is needed they can point to her and say "See?!!"

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 09:04 PM (Wg1x4)

141 IIRC the original Little Shop of Horrors was the result of a bet that a movie couldn't be made in some ridiculously short amount of time. 48 hours comes to mind but that's probably wrong.
Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 09:02 PM (Wg1x4)


IIRC Corman used the cast, crew and locations from the movie they just ended shooting

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2024 09:05 PM (D7oie)

142 what does she hope to achieve, running such a quixotic campaign
Posted by: Don Black

GOPe is banking on Trump being DQed or assassinated.

Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2024 09:06 PM (SYTee)

143 137 133

Newsome said the quiet part out loud.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:04 PM (NLIak)

It's NOT one of the best kept secrets.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:06 PM (ynpvh)

144 IIRC Corman used the cast, crew and locations from the movie they just ended shooting
Posted by: Kindltot

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Ha. I don't know a lot about him outside of a few RedLetterMedia episodes, but that sounds like standard Roger Corman movies.

Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 09:06 PM (Wg1x4)

145 Secondhand Lions.

Young men need to know that being a man is not a bad thing.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, stoopid iPad at February 24, 2024 08:59 PM (T/Lqj)

I saw that a few months ago for the first time. It was great!

Poor Michael Caine just couldn't get the accent. Robert Duvall just walks on set and starts talking but Caine? Well, he tried his best.

Posted by: Robert at February 24, 2024 09:07 PM (m/YDr)

146 Death of Stalin is a must see.
The Coen brothers rarely disappoint.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 24, 2024 09:07 PM (MeG8a)

147 Ha. I don't know a lot about him outside of a few RedLetterMedia episodes, but that sounds like standard Roger Corman movies.
Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples

Someone I think here said Corman only lost money on one movie. It was a bigger budget, sort of more high brow film.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:08 PM (Mig/N)

148 >>> 140 Creating the perception that there are people who are actually against Trump so that when the 1-2% cheat is needed they can point to her and say "See?!!"
Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 09:04 PM (Wg1x4)

This too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 24, 2024 09:10 PM (llON8)

149 140 Creating the perception that there are people who are actually against Trump so that when the 1-2% cheat is needed they can point to her and say "See?!!"
Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 09:04 PM (Wg1x4)

MSN homepage today had an article saying that if Trump wins, Dems in the House are threatening not to seat his electors...

You know... like Trump wanted last election so we could actually investigate the many allegations of election weirdness?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 24, 2024 09:11 PM (xaFKb)

150 The The Little Shop of Horrors (1960) was shot on a budget of $22,500 to $28,000 (about $240,000 in 2019), with interiors being shot about two days, utilizing sets that had been left standing from A Bucket of Blood (1959).

Howard R. Cohen learned from Charles B. Griffith that when the film was being edited, "there was a point where two scenes would not cut together. It was just a visual jolt, and it didn't work. And they needed something to bridge that moment. They found, in the editing room, a nice shot of the moon, they cut it in, and it worked. Twenty years go by. I'm at the studio one day. Chuck comes running up to me and says, 'You've got to see this!' It was a magazine article--eight pages on the symbolism of the moon in The Little Shop of Horrors (1960)."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 09:11 PM (FVME7)

151 Also, remember the scene in Godfather II when Michael is before a senate committee hearing? Roger Corman played one of the senators. I never figured out why. Was Dementia 13 a Corman film, with Coppola as first directorial gig?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:11 PM (Mig/N)

152 Movies with hard scenes to watch - my Dad was in the medical corps at Ft. Sam Houston in between Korea and Vietnam, and for a time part of his job was giving first aid training to new recruits. Part of that was showing battlefield footage of actual field medical treatments. He always would laugh about one showing treatment of a bad abdominal wound; and he told me he and the experienced guys would take bets on how many helmets would hit the floor, ie how many of the recruits would pass out, at the scene where the doctor would make an incision and all the poor gi's intestines would pop out. He said every group, there were 4 or 5 that would hit the floor hard.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 09:11 PM (S6gqv)

153 We got Shoah from our library and I watched it spread out over a week. I found it hard to watch. The interview with the man who had been the town barber and was forced to shave the heads of the women from his village -- something about that story has just stayed with me. The whole thing was so moving.

I knew a woman from Lodz, Poland, whose family sent her to live with some Catholics. She was the only one to survive of all her family. Very kind woman, very loving and supportive. Had a difficult life after the war, emigrated to America with her husband. They did not have a good marriage. She wrote a book about her experiences, "Trains" by Miriam Winter. She passed away a few years ago. The book is available on Amazon.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at February 24, 2024 09:12 PM (JrYM1)

154 Young men need to know that being a man is not a bad thing.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, stoopid iPad at February 24, 2024 08:59 PM


Journalist Katie would like to disagree:

http://tinyurl.com/52k2n7vu

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2024 09:12 PM (a3Q+t)

155 136 Cabot

I watched Shoah, all 7 hours, some years ago.

Parts of it are truly fascinating. My principal interest is seeing how different people reacted to the situation.

It forces one to think, "How would you the viewer have responded? Are you sure you would've done any better? REALLY sure?"

There's a fine Polish movie about a sewer worker who saved a lot of Jews, based on a true story. Might've been called "Underground"-- something like that. Directed by Agnushka Holland.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:13 PM (NLIak)

156 131 what does she hope to achieve, running such a quixotic campaign
Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:02 PM (geLO

Allows the GOPe to hoover up donations, plus she can work on getting the Trump skeptics something of an outlet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:13 PM (di6C2)

157 156 131 what does she hope to achieve, running such a quixotic campaign
Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:02 PM (geLO

Allows the GOPe to hoover up donations, plus she can work on getting the Trump skeptics something of an outlet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:13 PM (di6C2)

At the same time draining Trumps, just like the court cases are doing. I mean $80million here, $350million there...it adds up.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:14 PM (ynpvh)

158
the doctor would make an incision and all the poor gi's intestines would pop out. He said every group, there were 4 or 5 that would hit the floor hard.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Sounds like the opening scenes in Quincy, M.E.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2024 09:15 PM (63Dwl)

159 My Favorite Year is a wonderful film. Death of Stalin is very strange to watch, but I think Cath-Thirty-Thr33 had an excellent point about it. "Life" under Stalin had become insanely absurd, so maybe a "comedy" really is the only way to accurately-ish portray it.

I just watch A Man Called Ove based on this. It was pretty good, but it really made me very sad about the demise of Saab as a car manufacturer.

Films I can watch over and over and over and over and over again: The Godfather, The Thirteenth Warrior, The Lost Boys, Amelie, Every Time War Day Goodbye (early Tom Hanks; can't stand to watch him now), Holiday Inn, Galaxy Quest. Exodus (it's schmaltzy, and I can't stand Eva Marie Sainte, but love the film.) Some are good, some aren't -- I just really like them.

I probably should add My Favorite Year to that -- I really loved that film.

Posted by: Someone Else at February 24, 2024 09:16 PM (IrqeV)

160 I read the book, Ove, and we watched the movie. I liked the book but found the movie depressing.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at February 24, 2024 09:17 PM (JrYM1)

161 I shouldn't stay up until ONT tonight
Hope everyone has a great quite evening

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2024 09:18 PM (fwDg9)

162 At the same time draining Trumps, just like the court cases are doing. I mean $80million here, $350million there...it adds up.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:14 PM (ynpvh)

And both Judges are saying he has to pay RIGHT NOW... almost 1/2 a Billion Dollars.... RIGHT NOW...

Oh, and by the way, we've already seized control of your companies and you can't move out of State.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 24, 2024 09:18 PM (xaFKb)

163 111 South Carolina primary:

With 65% in, Trump beating Haley by 22 points, in line with expectations.

Not bad at all considering SC is her homestate, & she used to be Governor.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 08:55 PM (NLIak)

And SC primary is OPEN. Note she's currently winning in Columbia, Charlston and Beaufort County (adjacent to Savannah, GA).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:19 PM (ynpvh)

164 If Nikki Haley wanted to bring more to the table, she'd butter her hairy nipples and play the zills like a hindu priestess.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 24, 2024 09:20 PM (EEgXH)

165 I'm hoping that as the lawfare rolls on & on, it will benefit Trump-- that independents will come to resent the Un-Americanism of it.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:20 PM (NLIak)

166 165 I'm hoping that as the lawfare rolls on & on, it will benefit Trump-- that independents will come to resent the Un-Americanism of it.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:20 PM (NLIak)

Not if they only consume Proganda TV and Radio.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:21 PM (ynpvh)

167 This is kind of like a movie, a very, very short movie (about 60 seconds) on evidence of the proof of God.

http://tinyurl.com/4njrk76n

Unlikely to convince anyone but I thought it interesting.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 09:22 PM (FVME7)

168 Open primary.
Posted by: Nikki Haley's hairy nipples at February 24, 2024 08:58 PM (Wg1x4)
~~~~~

Nikki was actually re-tweeting democrat super PACs telling dems to go and vote for Haley to "protect democracy."

Get a load of this:

https://twitter.com/SomeBitchIIKnow
/status/1761572353887154611

Posted by: IrishEi at February 24, 2024 09:24 PM (dhjwC)

169 Nikki is winning the State of Denial.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:25 PM (Mig/N)

170 "A Ghost Story" was interesting, but moved very, very slowly. Probably could have cut out 50%+ of the movie and had a decent story.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:25 PM (ynpvh)

171 Crud.

According to a link on Drudge the new lunar lander landed on its side.

Bummer.

Posted by: Robert at February 24, 2024 09:26 PM (TZ0C2)

172 If they only "consumed Propaganda TV and Radio", Trump would be running behind gonorrhea. But he's NOT.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:27 PM (NLIak)

173 169 Nikki is winning the State of Denial.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:25 PM (Mig/N)

Not true. She lost it to "None of the Above".

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:27 PM (ynpvh)

174 @110 Aetius451AD-Thanks for the info. Got in a big ol' argument about states succeeding. Couldn't get it through someones head that once the fed government becomes unmoored from the constitution......well you know the rest. It was over the premise of that movie.

Not even Jennifer Connelly makes Requiem for a dream tempting to watch. If I want to see her in a movie I'll fast forward to the bewb scene in Inventing The Abbotts.

Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 09:28 PM (IlL6s)

175 GOPe invested a lot of time, money, and political capital over the years in grooming Nikki for a Presidential run. They can't just give up on her and take the loss on that investment.

Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2024 09:28 PM (SYTee)

176 171 Crud.

According to a link on Drudge the new lunar lander landed on its side.

Bummer.

Posted by: Robert at February 24, 2024 09:26 PM (TZ0C2)

Shoulda had LifeAlert™

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:28 PM (ynpvh)

177 ewetub recommended news:

-rachel maddow ripping trump
-mass congressmen calling for Ukraine $60B at a rally
-Trump doing a 'mean' impression of Biden
-a VERY bleached out picture of the guy who killed that student. The wall behind him has lost all detail they turned the brightness up so high.
-Oh and Navalny's body is handed over to his mother

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:30 PM (di6C2)

178 Not even Jennifer Connelly makes Requiem for a dream tempting to watch. If I want to see her in a movie I'll fast forward to the bewb scene in Inventing The Abbotts.

Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 09:28 PM (IlL6s)

The Hot Spot. Jennifer Connelly AND Virginia Madsen.

Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2024 09:30 PM (SYTee)

179 I'm watching it and wondering when they're gonna get some decent air support. When was the P-51 introduced?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly




Late 1943, but didn't become the primary fighter escort until late 1944. It wasn't necessarily the P-51 itself that saved the day, though it was a remarkable aircraft that was superior to the Germans'planes, bit the invocation of the drop fuel tanks that enabled them to escort the bombers all the way to the targets.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 24, 2024 09:30 PM (nbYK7)

180 142 what does she hope to achieve, running such a quixotic campaign
Posted by: Don Black
----------------------

CASH

Posted by: Braenyard at February 24, 2024 09:31 PM (Lf+TO)

181 The Hot Spot. Jennifer Connelly AND Virginia Madsen.
Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2024 09:30 PM (SYTee)

May be controversial, but I'd say the fully clothed Career Opportunities is peak Connelly Boobs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:32 PM (di6C2)

182 Columbia is the Berkley of S.C., Charleston’s been bought out by yankees, and so has Beaufort.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2024 09:35 PM (NxC5+)

183 Tom Landry (yes, the Dallas Cowboys coach) used to say, "We had roundtrip fighter escort. From England to the coast of France, we had Allied fighter escort. From France to our targets & then all the way back, we had German fighter escort. Once we got back to the coast, the Allied fighters would pick us up again. So... roundtrip fighter escort!"

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:36 PM (NLIak)

184 Career Opportunities...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ys6OTAGMnU

Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2024 09:36 PM (SYTee)

185 Death of Stalin is something I should watch
Watched a YouTube on his death other day, glad he had a miserable last few days before going to Hell
Posted by: Skip


It's ... um, ... you have to be in the right mood.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2024 09:36 PM (IG4Id)

186 151 Also, remember the scene in Godfather II when Michael is before a senate committee hearing? Roger Corman played one of the senators. I never figured out why. Was Dementia 13 a Corman film, with Coppola as first directorial gig?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:11 PM (Mig/N)

Did Coppola work under Corman at some point?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 09:36 PM (8sMut)

187 Not even Jennifer Connelly makes Requiem for a dream tempting to watch. If I want to see her in a movie I'll fast forward to the bewb scene in Inventing The Abbotts.
Posted by: JROD


Aronofsky is an ambulatory piece of uncohesive shit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2024 09:38 PM (IG4Id)

188 Not even Jennifer Connelly makes Requiem for a dream tempting to watch. If I want to see her in a movie I'll fast forward to the bewb scene in Inventing The Abbotts.
Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 09:28 PM (IlL6s)

I like the clip I saw from that movie where some dude was busted looking up her skirt. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 09:38 PM (8sMut)

189 Didn't a lot of the big names get their start with Corman?

Posted by: Robert at February 24, 2024 09:38 PM (6US2w)

190 Re: Someone else; I just got my 12 year old grandson to watch 13th Warrior for the first time. He liked it a lot; and it was fun for me to watch it again with someone who'd never seen it before.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 09:38 PM (S6gqv)

191 @178 davidt-oh for sure, Madsen in her prime! Inventing The Abbotts did have Joanna Going in her prime too!

Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 09:39 PM (IlL6s)

192 182 Columbia is the Berkley of S.C., Charleston’s been bought out by yankees, and so has Beaufort.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2024 09:35 PM (NxC5+)

And again, OPEN primary.
With 99% in, Joey has 126.5K votes (out of 131.5K votes)
With 75% in, Nimrata has 238.5K votes, Trump has 370.8K votes.

Don't tell me Dems WERE NOT voting for a RimNimrata Job.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:39 PM (ynpvh)

193 GOPe invested a lot of time, money, and political capital over the years in grooming Nikki for a Presidential run. They can't just give up on her and take the loss on that investment.
Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2024 09:28 PM (SYTee)
~~~~~

That's not what this is about. This is about hobbling Trump.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 24, 2024 09:39 PM (dhjwC)

194 193 GOPe invested a lot of time, money, and political capital over the years in grooming Nikki for a Presidential run. They can't just give up on her and take the loss on that investment.
Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2024 09:28 PM (SYTee)
~~~~~

That's not what this is about. This is about hobbling Trump.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 24, 2024 09:39 PM (dhjwC)

Both.

Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2024 09:40 PM (SYTee)

195 Yes, Roger Corman started an incredible number of careers, both behind the camera and in front of it. I know my personal favorite discovery of his was Pam Grier.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 09:41 PM (S6gqv)

196
ewetub recommended news:

-rachel maddow ripping trump


Posted by: Aetius451AD

===========

Where? I love to hate-watch that brach.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2024 09:41 PM (lCaJd)

197 192 Jim

Undoubtedly.

So...maybe Brandon will carry SC, then? (coffee spew)

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:41 PM (NLIak)

198 190 Re: Someone else; I just got my 12 year old grandson to watch 13th Warrior for the first time. He liked it a lot; and it was fun for me to watch it again with someone who'd never seen it before.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 09:38 PM (S6gqv)

It's a good movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:41 PM (di6C2)

199 Where? I love to hate-watch that brach.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2024 09:41 PM (lCaJd)

http://tinyurl.com/yc38uuuj

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:42 PM (di6C2)

200 Where? I love to hate-watch that brach.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia



That religious station, MSNBC. She's one of the top Priests of Glorious Progress.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 24, 2024 09:42 PM (Xr4QU)

201 190 Re: Someone else; I just got my 12 year old grandson to watch 13th Warrior for the first time. He liked it a lot; and it was fun for me to watch it again with someone who'd never seen it before.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 09:38 PM (S6gqv)

Back in the day when a friend of mine and I presented The 13th Warrior for one of our infamous Movie Nights, we did not advertise it as such to our officer colleagues. We advertised it as EATERS OF THE DEAD.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 09:42 PM (8sMut)

202
Where? I love to hate-watch that brach.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

===========

Never mind, I think I found something with the whole gang of babies.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 24, 2024 09:43 PM (lCaJd)

203 I know my personal favorite discovery of his was Pam Grier.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I think my favorite Corman discovery was Beverly Garland. Le Rawr Rawr!

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:43 PM (Mig/N)

204 TOR 4 COL 3 Final

Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:43 PM (geLO8)

205 The standard bomb load for a B-17 on a long mission was 4,000 pounds, and for a short mission 8,000. That's not a lot of bombs, and each plane had 10 guys at risk every mission. A B-17 looks huge, but man, I crawled through one once and they are actually shockingly cramped inside. And relatively easy to shoot down, being full of humans, gas and bombs.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 24, 2024 09:43 PM (nbYK7)

206 >I think my favorite Corman discovery was Beverly Garland. Le Rawr Rawr!


she was Monica's aunt in 1 episode

Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:45 PM (geLO8)

207 The 13th Warrior? I've seen it if it's the one with Antonia Banderos as an Egyptian fighting along side Vikings against a tribe of murderous whatever they were. I know I've seen it. It's been a while. Goofy premise but it worked. I liked it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 24, 2024 09:45 PM (Xr4QU)

208 @Catch Thirty-Thr33-I was never into the female celebrity worship even as a kid. Had an Olivia Newton John pic Grease era when I was a kid. No Farrah, Heather or Pam Andersen.
Jennifer Connelly however has always, even to this day, been one that makes me stop and take a gander. At least she has aged naturally. Looked good in Top Gun II.

Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 09:45 PM (IlL6s)

209 I am chowing down on hotdogs roasted over coals in the firepit, in buns toasted in the toaster oven. Yummy, they are.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2024 09:46 PM (tkR6S)

210 205 The standard bomb load for a B-17 on a long mission was 4,000 pounds, and for a short mission 8,000. That's not a lot of bombs, and each plane had 10 guys at risk every mission. A B-17 looks huge, but man, I crawled through one once and they are actually shockingly cramped inside. And relatively easy to shoot down, being full of humans, gas and bombs.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 24, 2024 09:43 PM (nbYK7)

But better than some of the comparable ones. Was it the Lancaster(? Anna?) that had a fuselage that was only like 3 feet wide inside?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:46 PM (di6C2)

211 the invocation of the drop fuel tanks that enabled them to escort the bombers all the way to the targets.
Posted by: Sharkman

Goering said that when he saw Mustangs over Berlin he knew the war was lost.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 24, 2024 09:46 PM (FVME7)

212 too bad she found the need to downsize her Jennifers

Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:46 PM (geLO8)

213 207 The 13th Warrior? I've seen it if it's the one with Antonia Banderos as an Egyptian fighting along side Vikings against a tribe of murderous whatever they were. I know I've seen it. It's been a while. Goofy premise but it worked. I liked it.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 24, 2024 09:45 PM (Xr4QU)

It was Beowulf.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:47 PM (di6C2)

214 212 too bad she found the need to downsize her Jennifers
Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:46 PM (geLO

*takes off hat in respect*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:47 PM (di6C2)

215 @190 Tom Servo- + one on Thirteenth Warrior. One of those worth watching when you want to be entertained and kill time.

Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 09:47 PM (IlL6s)

216 I think my favorite scene in the 13th Warrior is when they are selecting the team and the shaman says the 13th Warrior is no Norseman. It slowly dawns on Banderos that he is the 13th. I don't why I find it so great but I do.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:47 PM (Mig/N)

217 205 Sharkman

I had the same experience when I tried to walk through the U-505 in Chicago (her final resting place)-- unimaginably cramped! I couldn't even do it today-- too fat.

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:48 PM (NLIak)

218 *takes off hat in respect*

Posted by: Aetius451AD


😢

Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:48 PM (geLO8)

219 216 I think my favorite scene in the 13th Warrior is when they are selecting the team and the shaman says the 13th Warrior is no Norseman. It slowly dawns on Banderos that he is the 13th. I don't why I find it so great but I do.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:47 PM (Mig/N)

I love the scene where they start calling him Abin because he keeps saying hes so-and-so, son of (bin) so-and-so, son of (bin) so-and-so...and he can't correct them.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 24, 2024 09:48 PM (ynpvh)

220 Didn't a lot of the big names get their start with Corman?
Posted by: Robert

Coppola, "Dementia 13"
Ron Howard "Eat My Dust"
Jack Nicholson in some E.A. Poe stuff

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 24, 2024 09:49 PM (P9kBh)

221 216 I think my favorite scene in the 13th Warrior is when they are selecting the team and the shaman says the 13th Warrior is no Norseman. It slowly dawns on Banderos that he is the 13th. I don't why I find it so great but I do.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:47 PM (Mig/N)

I like when they ride into the village and these guys he thought were stupid morons instantly start assessing the tactical situation and the ground they will be fighting on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:49 PM (di6C2)

222 One line thar stuck with me from 13th Warrior is when they're wondering what kind of monster the "Fire Worm" that is coming at them is; and it finally gets close enough that one can cry out "it's Cavalry! It's Cavalry!" And one of the Warriors says "Cavalry! I'd rather it was a dragon!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 09:49 PM (S6gqv)

223 In the book it was based on , Eaters of the Dead, Crichton makes clear they were up against perhaps the last enclave of Neanderthals.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at February 24, 2024 09:49 PM (Mig/N)

224 209 I am chowing down on hotdogs roasted over coals in the firepit, in buns toasted in the toaster oven. Yummy, they are.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2024 09:46 PM (tkR6S)

That is some seriously good grub right there.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 09:49 PM (8sMut)

225 @187 weft cut-loop-LOL, Aronofsky definitely a no go for me.

Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 09:50 PM (IlL6s)

226 But better than some of the comparable ones. Was it the Lancaster(? Anna?) that had a fuselage that was only like 3 feet wide inside?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:46 PM (di6C2)

Lancaster could carry the 22000 pound tallboy bomb.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2024 09:50 PM (tkR6S)

227 >>I am chowing down on hotdogs roasted over coals in the firepit, in buns toasted in the toaster oven. Yummy, they are.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---


what manner of embellishments do you add

Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:51 PM (geLO8)

228 222 One line thar stuck with me from 13th Warrior is when they're wondering what kind of monster the "Fire Worm" that is coming at them is; and it finally gets close enough that one can cry out "it's Cavalry! It's Cavalry!" And one of the Warriors says "Cavalry! I'd rather it was a dragon!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2024 09:49 PM (S6gqv)

That's a good one too.

'You! You could have killed him at will!'
'...Yes?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2024 09:51 PM (di6C2)

229 208 @Catch Thirty-Thr33-I was never into the female celebrity worship even as a kid. Had an Olivia Newton John pic Grease era when I was a kid. No Farrah, Heather or Pam Andersen.
Jennifer Connelly however has always, even to this day, been one that makes me stop and take a gander. At least she has aged naturally. Looked good in Top Gun II.
Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 09:45 PM (IlL6s)

In my case, there were the women we were told, over and over again, were hot, and the ones that didn't get a lot of press coverage but were seriously hot. I would usually go for the latter.

As for Jennifer Connelly, I was blown away by how well she aged when I saw Top Gun 2. (Damn am I happy I saw that in theaters.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 09:52 PM (8sMut)

230 The Spice Must Flow in six days.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 24, 2024 09:52 PM (8sMut)

231 what manner of embellishments do you add
Posted by: Don Black at February 24, 2024 09:51 PM (geLO


Sweet relish and Dijon mustard.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2024 09:53 PM (tkR6S)

232 It's worth looking at the contrast for 13th Warrior on Rotten Tomatoes.

There's probably some sort of something to be learned (again) with there being such a disconnect, but something something Smart People.

I'm kind of surprised they haven't made it where you have to pay to have a membership to rate and review movies there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - If this is how Georgia hires attorneys, imagine how they manage elections at February 24, 2024 09:53 PM (Cgfkv)

233 NOOD ONT

Posted by: mnw at February 24, 2024 09:53 PM (NLIak)

234 @229 Catch Thirty-Thr33- I'm the same. Not that the others weren't attractive but I had my type and still do.

Posted by: JROD at February 24, 2024 09:55 PM (IlL6s)

235 My baby brother, at 13 looked like Hoss Cartwright with an afro, had a poster of Farrah Fawsett in the red bathing suit on his bedroom door. And Mammy Eromero let him get away with that.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2024 09:56 PM (NxC5+)

236 Nice.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at February 24, 2024 10:05 PM (snyZJ)

237 56 "...most postwar analysis doesn't find the results of the effort on the German war machine to be worth the unholy number of men and aircraft we lost."

I have read that the Norden bombsight was supposed to be a war-winner, but was actually a complete flop! Who to believe?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at February 24, 2024 10:13 PM (fvaUq)

238 Looks like President Ford.

Posted by: look whats not at February 24, 2024 10:27 PM (nakGR)

239 205 "A B-17 looks huge, but man, I crawled through one once and they are actually shockingly cramped inside."

A B-25 is tinier than that! I rode in one once for an hour, and it beat the hell out of me! Take off from a carrier, fly to Tokyo, ditch in China? - NFW!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at February 24, 2024 10:54 PM (fvaUq)

240 The movie is from 2015. Takes them long enough to get around to paying attention to it at the Academy.

Posted by: Doug Fullerton at February 25, 2024 06:46 AM (aTaEd)

241 Loved "A Man Called Ove." Definitely worth a watch.

Posted by: NAB at February 25, 2024 03:15 PM (3sHsl)

242 The Hollywood/Hanks version has lots of woke tweaks. You can tell the original story was solid, and the love story still tugs at the heartstrings, but the Hanks version just has to tell us that Hispanic immigrants and trans people are good people just like us and curmudgeons are ok as long as they adopt woke sensibilities. The bit where greedy corporations and housing developments try to screw common people over, well, I guess that's something most of the left and right could agree on, assuming they aren't profiting from the predation.

Posted by: John Milton's Ghost at February 25, 2024 08:03 PM (hRQv5)

243 Watched it tonight: thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Great recommendation. Very touching movie.

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