Trial About Documents About the Group "Eagles" Reveals Details of Don Henley's Sexual Exploitation of 14-Year-Old Girl

Weird how #MeToo just completely skipped over leftwingers like Don Henley, huh?

Shocking never-before-seen documents from an ongoing trial concerning allegedly stolen Eagles lyrics shine new light on an infamous night in 1980 when Don Henley was arrested after a teen overdosed at his home.
Henley has always maintained that the overdose happened during a going-away party packed with crew members as the band began a lengthy post-'70s hiatus. Henley was charged with giving cocaine to a minor, but said he took the rap to protect the others.

What An Hero. What An Stand-Up Guy.

He also has maintained that he never had sex with the teen.
"There were roadies and guys in my house -- we were having a farewell to the Eagles," Henley told GQ in 1991. "I got all of them out of the house; I took complete blame for everything. I was stupid; I could have flushed everything down the toilet. I didn't want this girl dying in my house. I wanted to get her medical attention. I did what I thought was best, and I paid the price."

A contemporary letter written by Henley to a Santa Monica probation officer, now introduced into evidence in the unrelated current trial, tells a very different story.

Rather than taking place at a party, Henley writes that he was depressed and alone when he called an escort service.

He admitted the fourteen year old girl did a lot of coke in his presence.

In the letter, Henley says he tried to have sex with the teen before she mentioned that she didn't feel well. He was in the bathroom getting her aspirin, according to the statement, when she began to have a seizure.
Henley called for help, but the teen appeared to have recovered by the time paramedics arrived....
News reports said investigators confiscated 22 grams of cocaine and five ounces of marijuana, as well as Quaaludes and other drugs. The underaged escort, apparently still naked, was charged with prostitution while her 15-year-old friend was arrested for being under the influence of drugs.
Henley later pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. He was ultimately sentenced to two years probation and a $2,500 fine.

As I read this story, I wondered if this scumbag pedophile -- and he is a pedophile; there is no mistaking a fourteen year old girl for an adult -- wrote "Dirty Laundry" as his "I'm the real victim here" cri de coeur.

Apparently, he did just that. The song is the whine of a pedophile who's angry that he got caught.

I feel a lot of hypocrisy here, because while I condemn this scumbag for his pedophilia, I try to block the well-known predation the guitarist of my favorite band on a girl of similar age.

Actually, she was 13 when he "began a relationship" with this 13 year old child.

To literal hell with him too.

And... well, where do we start with Pete Townsend?

Thanks to Mark1971.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 06:30 PM

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1 What did Pete Townsend do?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 22, 2024 06:41 PM (Dm8we)

2 I feel a lot of hypocrisy here, because while I condemn this scumbag for his pedophilia, I try to block the well-known predation the guitarist of my favorite band on a girl of similar age.

He stole that riff from Jerry Lee Lewis.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 22, 2024 06:42 PM (dZVON)

3 Like the magician guy, dude??

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 06:42 PM (2yu8s)

4 First

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 06:42 PM (IFNME)

5 This kind of shit never happened with The Beatles or Rush, just saying.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (XV/Pl)

6 I read the content.

Rookie move.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (IFNME)

7 Pizzagate is just a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Catherine at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (dX6k1)

8 Saw Openly Pedo open for The Dixie Chicks in '95 at Stone Mountain.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 22, 2024 06:44 PM (eYF7X)

9 Can't even say he was an ephibophiliac...that's for those 15 and older. Yeah, a Paedo.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:44 PM (ynpvh)

10 What did Pete Townsend do?

A quick listen to "Rough Boys" should tell you.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 22, 2024 06:44 PM (dZVON)

11 Peaceful easy felling...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 22, 2024 06:44 PM (Q4IgG)

12 In my defense, she said she was 15.

Posted by: Don Henley at February 22, 2024 06:45 PM (aD39U)

13 Well, lots of songs about underage girls...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:45 PM (ynpvh)

14 I mean, I know about Townsend and the child porn "research" as he put it, but did he actually do anything with a kid?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 22, 2024 06:45 PM (Dm8we)

15 You gotta get'em before they have full control of their thoughts and memories.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 22, 2024 06:46 PM (eYF7X)

16 Mojo is gone yet Henley persists. Life just ain't fair.

Posted by: fd at February 22, 2024 06:46 PM (vFG9F)

17 12 In my defense, she said she was 15.

Posted by: Don Henley at February 22, 2024 06:45 PM (aD39U)

The Animal House defense?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:46 PM (ynpvh)

18 I obviously missed it.

When did Don Henley obtain information on the Bidens?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 22, 2024 06:46 PM (KSNKu)

19 18 I obviously missed it.

When did Don Henley obtain information on the Bidens?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 22, 2024 06:46 PM (KSNKu)

He wouldn't be here today if it was info on the Clintons.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:47 PM (ynpvh)

20 SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 7-15
SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB
February 22 at 11:00 p.m. ET

http://tinyurl.com/3esv4atb

Posted by: Ciampino - Let me know ... at February 22, 2024 06:47 PM (qfLjt)

21 Stan never sleeps

Posted by: A dude in MI at February 22, 2024 06:47 PM (/6GbT)

22 5 This kind of shit never happened with The Beatles or Rush, just saying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (XV/Pl)

She was just 17... and you know what I mean...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 22, 2024 06:48 PM (xaFKb)

23 A 14 year old? Eewwww. Dude likes them old.
-Roman Polanski

Posted by: Montec at February 22, 2024 06:49 PM (bWsRe)

24 Don Henley has always been a preening, self serving douche nozzle. It's hard to look back and see the obvious, and admit you didn't see the forest for the trees. It's a damn shame because I really like the Eagles.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 22, 2024 06:49 PM (YRsIm)

25 The article says 16.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 22, 2024 06:49 PM (ou9hh)

26 Did none of these girls have parents?

Posted by: huerfano at February 22, 2024 06:49 PM (Q4KYm)

27 22 5 This kind of shit never happened with The Beatles or Rush, just saying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (XV/Pl)

She was just 17... and you know what I mean...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 22, 2024 06:48 PM (xaFKb)

Makes you wonder about Elton John...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:49 PM (ynpvh)

28 @amuse @amuse 1h
SHOCK: Biden has named disgraced former AG Eric Holder as judge on the Data Protection Review Court. Holder was held in contempt of Congress related to the Fast & Furious scandal. The court is designed to prevent future admins from spying on incoming presidents like Trump.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (2yu8s)

29 No, Townsend was never charged.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (USTAS)

30 I dated a 14 year old once, when I was 16. She was an early developer she was.

Also, I missed some good threads today while I was burning exploding timber bamboo on the lot.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (aD39U)

31 I got nuthin'

Posted by: Bob Dylan at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (IG7T0)

32 If you call an "escort service" and get a fourteen year old, it's because you asked them for a fourteen year old.

If you get a fourteen year old and her "friend" happens to tag along, it's because you asked for two children.

Put this fucking cretin in a stockade and coat him in pig shit.

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (9UlRk)

33 Makes you wonder about Elton John...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:49 PM (ynpvh)

I haven't dug into it... but Michael Jackson suddenly has a couple stories out about him as well.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (xaFKb)

34 We’ll still pay $1000 to see him in concert.
- Boomers

Posted by: Montec at February 22, 2024 06:51 PM (bWsRe)

35 26 Did none of these girls have parents?
Posted by: huerfano

Henley sent them on a two week luxury cruise to Cabo.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 22, 2024 06:51 PM (eYF7X)

36 @amuse @amuse 1h
SHOCK: Biden has named disgraced former AG Eric Holder as judge on the Data Protection Review Court. Holder was held in contempt of Congress related to the Fast & Furious scandal. The court is designed to prevent future admins from spying on incoming presidents like Trump.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (2yu8s)

Does that require Senate confirmation?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 22, 2024 06:51 PM (aD39U)

37 Not defending but a drunk dude high on coke is not really making good choices overall.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 06:51 PM (IFNME)

38 So an escort service just happened to send over a fourteen year old, without asking Henley about his preferences. Henley let the child and her underaged friend in. Henley served them alcohol and drugs. Henley tried to have sex with the fourteen year old. The fourteen year old had a near death medical event due to alcohol and drugs served to her by Henley. Then Henley wrote a song bitching about the fallout.

Fuck him. He should be buried up to his neck in the desert and allowed to bake in the sun until his brain swells up and he dies of a massive stroke.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 22, 2024 06:52 PM (6OrcJ)

39 28 @amuse @amuse 1h
SHOCK: Biden has named disgraced former AG Eric Holder as judge on the Data Protection Review Court. Holder was held in contempt of Congress related to the Fast & Furious scandal. The court is designed to prevent future admins from spying on incoming presidents like Trump.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (2yu8s)

Wait... we need a new court to NOT spy on a President?

Seems like all we need to do is fix our old ones, and follow the laws already on the books.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 22, 2024 06:52 PM (xaFKb)

40 I feel dirty just reading about this stuff.
"Sex, Drugs, and Rock'n'Roll," indeed.

Dear Lord, where was this girl's mother (speaking of Lori Mattix).

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at February 22, 2024 06:52 PM (Rbu5d)

41
Any time of year

You can find it here

(14 year olds)

Posted by: ... at February 22, 2024 06:52 PM (lX8VI)

42 I guess this indicates that Don Henley's usefulness to Glorious Progress is over. He can be Trotskied, for the Greater Good.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 22, 2024 06:52 PM (v9vY1)

43 Love Joe Walsh and the James Gang. Hate the Eagles and California snooz rock.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 22, 2024 06:53 PM (Dm8we)

44 This is a guy who to this day sits on YouTube all day filing takedown notices to anyone who uses their 50 year old songs. And a pedo scumbag on top of that.

Posted by: brak at February 22, 2024 06:53 PM (AR07F)

45 27...Makes you wonder about Elton John...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:49 PM (ynpvh)

that was sarcastic, right, jim?

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at February 22, 2024 06:53 PM (Rbu5d)

46 38 So an escort service just happened to send over a fourteen year old, without asking Henley about his preferences. Henley let the child and her underaged friend in. Henley served them alcohol and drugs. Henley tried to have sex with the fourteen year old. The fourteen year old had a near death medical event due to alcohol and drugs served to her by Henley. Then Henley wrote a song bitching about the fallout.

Fuck him. He should be buried up to his neck in the desert and allowed to bake in the sun until his brain swells up and he dies of a massive stroke.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 22, 2024 06:52 PM (6OrcJ)

Stakes, honey, fire ants.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:53 PM (ynpvh)

47 I wonder if Team Epstein got video?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 22, 2024 06:53 PM (eYF7X)

48 Wait... we need a new court to NOT spy on a President?

Seems like all we need to do is fix our old ones, and follow the laws already on the books.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 22, 2024 06:52 PM (xaFKb)

Huh. Chris Wray said they just needed an extra module added to mandatory annual training.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 06:54 PM (IFNME)

49 1980: 14 is the new 18

2000: 10 is the new 18

2024: 1 is the new 18 and cut off his balls to make him a girl

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 22, 2024 06:54 PM (++4z6)

50 34 Posted by: Montec at February 22, 2024 06:51 PM (bWsRe)

[eyeroll]

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at February 22, 2024 06:54 PM (Rbu5d)

51 Did none of these girls have parents?
Posted by: huerfano

Sure they did. Parents who probably abused them which led them to become prostitutes as young teens.

Posted by: Montec at February 22, 2024 06:54 PM (bWsRe)

52 Who was getting more groupy in the 70s? Henley or Gene Simmons?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 22, 2024 06:54 PM (aD39U)

53 The court is designed to prevent future admins from spying on incoming presidents like Trump.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (2yu8s)

Future admins? Is the FBI an admin? Is England an admin?

They are so weird and so full of shit. Are they expecting Trump to win?

Posted by: ... at February 22, 2024 06:54 PM (lX8VI)

54 Not defending but a drunk dude high on coke is not really making good choices overall.
Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 06:51 PM (IFNME)

Yeah, true enough, but "Hey let's go steal the 'R' off the Waffle House sign, I'll bring my pogo stick" is a damn far cry from "who can i call to deliver a couple children".

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (9UlRk)

55 26 Did none of these girls have parents?
Posted by: huerfano at February 22, 2024 06:49 PM (Q4KYm)

I'm sure they do and are doing the best to protect their future earnings, I mean children

Posted by: Kris Kardashian Jenner at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (aGT/k)

56 >>Fuck him. He should be buried up to his neck in the desert and allowed to bake in the sun until his brain swells up and he dies of a massive stroke.

Posted by: bonhomme

I'm interested to know if you have a newsletter?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (eYF7X)

57 5 This kind of shit never happened with The Beatles or Rush, just saying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (XV/Pl)

With Rush, it's because there has never been a female Rush groupie.

Posted by: NotEnoughLampposts at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (lPVHV)

58 Yeah, true enough, but "Hey let's go steal the 'R' off the Waffle House sign, I'll bring my pogo stick" is a damn far cry from "who can i call to deliver a couple children".
Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (9UlRk)

Oddly specific

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 06:56 PM (IFNME)

59 57 5 This kind of shit never happened with The Beatles or Rush, just saying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (XV/Pl)

With Rush, it's because there has never been a female Rush groupie.

Posted by: NotEnoughLampposts at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (lPVHV)

Are you implying little boys?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:56 PM (ynpvh)

60 > This is a guy who to this day sits on YouTube all day filing takedown notices to anyone who uses their 50 year old songs.

It's unlikely he does that. The record company likely contracts with a company that runs copyright detection and automatically files takedown notices if it finds one.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 22, 2024 06:56 PM (6OrcJ)

61 She looked 16

Posted by: ... at February 22, 2024 06:56 PM (lX8VI)

62 Hey let's go steal the 'R' off the Waffle House sign

Mein Fuhrer ... das Waffle Haus ...

Posted by: G'rump928(c) tugs collar at February 22, 2024 06:56 PM (aD39U)

63 14 I mean, I know about Townsend and the child porn "research" as he put it, but did he actually do anything with a kid?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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Dunno. Cops carted away all of his computers and stuff but did not charge him for anything. Allegedly he claimed that he stopped before entering a credit card to enter the child porn website being monitored. No reported images were found on his computer. That being said, rock opera Tommy has disturbing themes of a child being molested (Fiddle About is one and the Acid Queen is another).

If you like 60's and 70's rock and pop music, chances are that your favorite guy band might have had girls below 16 years old.

The question was where were the parents?

Posted by: whig at February 22, 2024 06:57 PM (ScVFX)

64 58 Yeah, true enough, but "Hey let's go steal the 'R' off the Waffle House sign, I'll bring my pogo stick" is a damn far cry from "who can i call to deliver a couple children".
Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (9UlRk)

Oddly specific

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 06:56 PM (IFNME)

'R' off the Waffle House sign?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:57 PM (ynpvh)

65 53 The court is designed to prevent future admins from spying on incoming presidents like Trump.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 06:50 PM (2yu8s)

Future admins? Is the FBI an admin? Is England an admin?

They are so weird and so full of shit. Are they expecting Trump to win?
Posted by: ... at February 22, 2024 06:54 PM (lX8VI)

——-

Pretty sure it’s the exact opposite. It’s the Deep State’s clearing house of information for spying on the President.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 22, 2024 06:57 PM (++4z6)

66 Hey remember that time Trump bugged Biden Towers to listen in on his campaign meetings that was fun

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 06:57 PM (9UlRk)

67 Mojo Nixon recently passed away. One of his songs was "Don Henley Must Die."

Posted by: Someone Else at February 22, 2024 06:58 PM (IrqeV)

68 26 Did none of these girls have parents?
Posted by: huerfano

I'm sure the "parents " were well compensated.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2024 06:58 PM (cRUVN)

69 44 This is a guy who to this day sits on YouTube all day filing takedown notices to anyone who uses their 50 year old songs. And a pedo scumbag on top of that.
Posted by: brak

He'd do that to 'Boys of Summer' all the time. Used to be you couldn't find it on YT. Apparently, that has changed as it's pretty easy to find now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 22, 2024 06:58 PM (v9vY1)

70 66 Hey remember that time Trump bugged Biden Towers to listen in on his campaign meetings that was fun

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 06:57 PM (9UlRk)

That happened after Trump set up Hunter Biden with hookers and blow.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:58 PM (ynpvh)

71 It's unlikely he does that.

Probabky. But he's actually posted videos bragging about it. Weird dude.

Posted by: brak at February 22, 2024 06:58 PM (AR07F)

72 My favorite song is "Brown Shoes Don't Make It" -
only thirteen and she knows how to nasty.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 22, 2024 06:59 PM (nvKZ7)

73 Townshend. Pete Townshend.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at February 22, 2024 06:59 PM (Qt4kF)

74 63 14 I mean, I know about Townsend and the child porn "research" as he put it, but did he actually do anything with a kid?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
-------
Dunno. Cops carted away all of his computers and stuff but did not charge him for anything. Allegedly he claimed that he stopped before entering a credit card to enter the child porn website being monitored. No reported images were found on his computer. That being said, rock opera Tommy has disturbing themes of a child being molested (Fiddle About is one and the Acid Queen is another).

If you like 60's and 70's rock and pop music, chances are that your favorite guy band might have had girls below 16 years old.

The question was where were the parents?
Posted by: whig at February 22, 2024 06:57 PM (ScVFX)

You're sixteen, you're beautiful, you're mine!

Posted by: Ringo Starr at February 22, 2024 06:59 PM (aGT/k)

75 Drug culture created a lot of teenaged runaways. Girls and boys who fell in with the sex, drugs, and rock and roll movement.

It's not surprising that they were exploited by the suppliers of all those things. I know they were different times, but adults should always be held accountable even when teenagers are being stupid.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at February 22, 2024 06:59 PM (OX9vb)

76 > I'm sure the "parents " were well compensated.

Or the girls were runaways.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 22, 2024 06:59 PM (6OrcJ)

77 71 It's unlikely he does that.

Probabky. But he's actually posted videos bragging about it. Weird dude.

Posted by: brak at February 22, 2024 06:58 PM (AR07F)

Maybe Don Henley did him when he was a kid...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:59 PM (ynpvh)

78 I use YT a lot, for guitar lessons on popular and not so popular tunes.

One guy had a great instruction on Tequila Sunrise, and it was pulled (along with everything else). It had about 3 seconds of the original recording as an intro. What a douche.

The Eagles also started the ball rolling on ticket price wankery for their “reunion” tour. I remember $6.50 for General Admission at the Hippodrome. They charged like $150 or whatever it was.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2024 06:59 PM (HYyZn)

79 I watched some documentary about The Eagles. I always knew Don Henley was an epic douchebag. I was a bit surprised that Glenn Frey was worse.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 22, 2024 07:00 PM (v9vY1)

80 59 57 5 This kind of shit never happened with The Beatles or Rush, just saying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (XV/Pl)

With Rush, it's because there has never been a female Rush groupie.

Posted by: NotEnoughLampposts at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (lPVHV)

Are you implying little boys?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:56 PM (ynpvh)

Dude. Way to ruin a fun little joke by getting weird.

Posted by: NotEnoughLampposts at February 22, 2024 07:00 PM (lPVHV)

81 If he claims he only took a shower with her, the press will defend him.

Posted by: Malicious Compliance at February 22, 2024 07:01 PM (OBuuS)

82 I don't know why but I feel like I should know Mark1971. Did he submit this from personal knowledge or just happened to come across the article. That might answer my question.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 22, 2024 07:01 PM (t/2Uw)

83 “Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Run away girl
You’re much too young girl”

Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2024 07:01 PM (HYyZn)

84 74
You're sixteen, you're beautiful, you're mine!
Posted by: Ringo Starr at February 22, 2024 06:59 PM (aGT/k)

"She was 16 years old, Leave her alone, they say..."--Benny Mardones

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:02 PM (ynpvh)

85 BTW cellular outage today? I said before not solar flares not cyberattack but "complex systems."

Yeah. That.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 07:02 PM (IFNME)

86 You got to remember these girls show up for every party a band has. But if ,you do anything with them you are subject to prosecution if their folks find out. Which they will.

Posted by: vic at February 22, 2024 07:02 PM (A5THL)

87 So many pedo-adjacent lyrics in the 60s and 70s. And nobody batted an eye over it.

Posted by: Montec at February 22, 2024 07:03 PM (bWsRe)

88 39
'Seems like all we need to do is fix our old ones, and follow the laws already on the books.'

None of them are going to follow the laws on the books until someone dies from not doing it.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 22, 2024 07:03 PM (roH4R)

89 That means stop the civil service/Dems spying on Trump; not Trump spying on political opponents.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 07:03 PM (2yu8s)

90 complex systems."

Yeah. That.
Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 07:02 PM (IFNME)

I think that was my first guess. Some idiot somewhere fucked up something that no one had a of yet found a way up which to fuck.

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 07:04 PM (9UlRk)

91 87 So many pedo-adjacent lyrics in the 60s and 70s. And nobody batted an eye over it.
Posted by: Montec at February 22, 2024 07:03 PM (bWsRe)

We've moved on from lyrics and just go straight pedophile. Nobody bats an eye, either!

Posted by: Elites at February 22, 2024 07:05 PM (/6GbT)

92 Larry @LarryDJonesJr Feb 21
🚨BREAKING: There is a claim being circulated by the radical left that President Trump pushed a man at his Mar-a-Lago resort.

The story has gained considerable traction on social media and many are rejoicing over the alleged incident.

However, the man at the center of this controversy, Garrett Ventry, has come forward to offer his version of events.

According to Mr. Ventry, he and the President were having a conversation when the latter gave him a friendly pat on the back.

Garrett Ventry @GarrettVentry 9h
Guys this isn’t a scandal. I was talking to President Trump after his speech, we then took a picture, then he patted me on the back and walked away. The internet is insane. Here is the full video:
http://tinyurl.com/2jebf7z4
10 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 07:05 PM (2yu8s)

93 90 complex systems."

Yeah. That.
Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 07:02 PM (IFNME)

I think that was my first guess. Some idiot somewhere fucked up something that no one had a of yet found a way up which to fuck.

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 07:04 PM (9UlRk)

"Hey, the server acts funny when I put my cell phone close to it. Watch this!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:05 PM (ynpvh)

94 Makes you wonder about Elton John...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Only if you don't listen.

Posted by: Goodbye Yellow Brick Road at February 22, 2024 07:05 PM (dNbzX)

95 > You got to remember these girls show up for every party a band has. But if ,you do anything with them you are subject to prosecution if their folks find out. Which they will.

If I'm a rich asshole holding a party and I find a young girl at my party, I'm shutting it down. Then I'm firing the bouncers and banning their company from ever working for me again. Then I'm looking at security footage to figure out if one of my friends let the girl in, and kicking that guy in the dick. Then he's not my friend anymore, and he's banned too.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 22, 2024 07:05 PM (6OrcJ)

96 Young girls full of raging hormones running around f***ing like rabbits.
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Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:05 PM (IdKcu)

97
Don Henley and Roman Polanski with dating tips.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2024 07:05 PM (x0n13)

98 90 complex systems."

Yeah. That.
Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 07:02 PM (IFNME)

I think that was my first guess. Some idiot somewhere fucked up something that no one had a of yet found a way up which to fuck.
Posted by: Warai-O'toko

It's how we roll, Yo!

Posted by: FedGov at February 22, 2024 07:06 PM (v9vY1)

99 Think I'll go buy another set of their albums. Nothing like having more great classic rock for the turntable.

Posted by: Bob at February 22, 2024 07:06 PM (YiqZD)

100 Also: cell networks remain complex.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 07:06 PM (IFNME)

101
The New Kid in Town (sits mostly on Don's face).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2024 07:06 PM (x0n13)

102 She was just 17... and you know what I mean...
Posted by: Romeo13

I posted this in the last thread of this sort..... rock musicians get creepier and creepier as you go back in time.

"She's only seventeen, Daddy says she's too young, But she's old enough for me" - Winger, 1980s

"You're sixteen, you're beautiful, and you're mine" - Ringo Starr, 1970s

"She's only fourteen [...] She's my supergirl and I love her" - Donovan, 1960s

Ringo gets bonus creepy points for being older when he sang it. At least Kip Winger and Donovan were "only" about a decade older than the girls they were singing about.

Posted by: mikeski at February 22, 2024 07:06 PM (DgGvY)

103 So Kip Winger gets a pass?

Posted by: Kratwurst at February 22, 2024 07:06 PM (fcDpY)

104 So many pedo-adjacent lyrics in the 60s and 70s. And nobody batted an eye over it.
Posted by: Montec at February 22, 2024 07:03 PM (bWsRe)

In fairness, we were humping like bunnies in that brief and shiny age between The Pill and AIDS.

Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive, But to be young was very Heaven.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 22, 2024 07:06 PM (aD39U)

105 The question was where were the parents?

Sometimes the parents are experiencing their own drama, some parents just don’t care’ some parents are just fine with hypersexualized children.

And sometimes teenagers do a really good job of fooling their parents about their whereabouts

Posted by: kallisto at February 22, 2024 07:07 PM (d2yaL)

106 As if on cue I get in the car to pick up grandson and what's on the radio? Hotel California.

Posted by: Tuna at February 22, 2024 07:07 PM (dnFyI)

107 Songs marketed to teens are going to have lyrics about teens.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 07:07 PM (IFNME)

108 Elon makes fun of Jack Krawczyk, the Google Gemini AI product lead.

http://tiny.cc/n8ezwz

Posted by: bonhomme at February 22, 2024 07:08 PM (6OrcJ)

109 Don't stand so close to me
Sting

Posted by: Skip at February 22, 2024 07:08 PM (fwDg9)

110 Another ticket-taker who's an effing scuzbag. Unfortunately, most "entertainers" are ticket-takers and scuzbags. The boomer music of the 70's...well it most of it sucks.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at February 22, 2024 07:08 PM (kX2Rs)

111 106 As if on cue I get in the car to pick up grandson and what's on the radio? Hotel California.

Posted by: Tuna at February 22, 2024 07:07 PM (dnFyI)

"How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:08 PM (ynpvh)

112 103 So Kip Winger gets a pass?
Posted by: Kratwurst

Yes. Nobody remembers him anyway.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 22, 2024 07:09 PM (v9vY1)

113 So, ace's favorite band is Lead Zeppelin?

What a bold and daring choice!

Posted by: anon at February 22, 2024 07:09 PM (RqMDa)

114 Mentioned this story to my wife. She knows a lot more about these rockers than I. She says early in our marriage Henley came on in a video (this would be early 90s, probably), and I just said that he had a smug, dishonest face.

All I know about him.

But I will say that, when I was 15, I knew a girl who could easily pass for 18 or older. It does happen.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 22, 2024 07:09 PM (1bNHn)

115 As if on cue I get in the car to pick up grandson and what's on the radio? Hotel California.
Posted by: Tuna at February 22, 2024 07:07 PM (dnFyI)

Wow that's like a one in three chance. Crazy.

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 07:09 PM (9UlRk)

116 As if on cue I get in the car to pick up grandson and what's on the radio? Hotel California.
Posted by: Tuna at February 22, 2024 07:07 PM (dnFyI)

Wow that's like a one in three chance. Crazy.
Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 07:09 PM (9UlRk)

One of the other two chances was Life in the Fast Lane.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 22, 2024 07:10 PM (aD39U)

117 Jerry Lee Lewis doesn't understand the fuss.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2024 07:11 PM (CWkuC)

118 The first time I heard "Don Henley Must Die" I almost choked laughing. It was spot on.

Don't let him get back together
With Glen Fry
Don Henley must die

Posted by: fd at February 22, 2024 07:11 PM (vFG9F)

119 Standin' on a corner in Winslow, Arizona,
And I'm quite sure I'm in the wrong song

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (9UlRk)

120 117 Jerry Lee Lewis doesn't understand the fuss.
Posted by: JackStraw

Well, that was family. Don't judge.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (v9vY1)

121 I'm shocked

New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron has denied former President Donald Trump’s request for a 30-day stay of judgment after defense attorneys protested the attorney general’s “rush” for enforcement.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (aD39U)

122 Hotel California.
Posted by: Tuna at February 22, 2024 07:07 PM (dnFyI)

I have never liked the Eagles, but especially that one. Mr. Dmlw! has learned that if we're in the truck and an Eagles song starts, he needs to switch stations ASAP or I'll be grumpy.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (OX9vb)

123 So even someone as famous as Henley needed to order underage prostitutes? Obviously the groupies were too old. Yep, scum of the earth and I bet if Epstein had been around then Henley would have been on his express and island.

Posted by: Decaf at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (3JfbU)

124 If I'm a rich asshole holding a party and I find a young girl at my party, I'm shutting it down. Then I'm firing the bouncers and banning their company from ever working for me again. Then I'm looking at security footage to figure out if one of my friends let the girl in, and kicking that guy in the dick. Then he's not my friend anymore, and he's banned too.
Posted by: bonhomme

So what Trump did to Epstein at Mar-a-lago, basically.

.....he might not have kicked him in the dick.

Posted by: mikeski at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (DgGvY)

125 64 58 Yeah, true enough, but "Hey let's go steal the 'R' off the Waffle House sign, I'll bring my pogo stick" is a damn far cry from "who can i call to deliver a couple children".
Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (9UlRk)

Oddly specific

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 06:56 PM (IFNME)

'R' off the Waffle House sign?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:57 PM (ynpvh)
______
Are you trying to impose your White Spelling Privilege on us?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 22, 2024 07:13 PM (1bNHn)

126 The 70s were such a fucked up mess then along came AIDS.

Posted by: nckate at February 22, 2024 07:13 PM (ZGGD+)

127 121 I'm shocked

New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron has denied former President Donald Trump’s request for a 30-day stay of judgment after defense attorneys protested the attorney general’s “rush” for enforcement.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (aD39U)

Surprised they didn't insist on it as he was walking out the court. Engoron is another one that needs to be doing to Gibbet dance.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:13 PM (ynpvh)

128 104 So many pedo-adjacent lyrics in the 60s and 70s. And nobody batted an eye over it.
Posted by: Montec at February
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Is there a difference between grooming/seduction/and eager volunteers?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:14 PM (IdKcu)

129 he might not have kicked him in the dick.
Posted by: mikeski at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (DgGvY)

Just imagine seeing a guy who once kicked you in the dick be sworn in as president.

I'd probably hang myself, too.

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 07:14 PM (9UlRk)

130 This kind of shit never happened with The Beatles or Rush, just saying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (XV/Pl)

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Didn't Jerry Lee Lewis marry an underaged cousin?

Posted by: Decaf at February 22, 2024 07:14 PM (3JfbU)

131 Standin' on a corner in Winslow, Arizona,
And I'm quite sure I'm in the wrong song

Well that may be
Unless you see
A fourteen your old
And feel a body part gettin' long

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 22, 2024 07:14 PM (dZVON)

132 Kip Winger has composed classical music symphonies, believe it or not.

Posted by: Mark1971 at February 22, 2024 07:14 PM (xPl2J)

133 Love Joe Walsh and the James Gang. Hate the Eagles and California snooz rock.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 22, 2024 06:53 PM (Dm8we)

This.

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:14 PM (rbfpx)

134 Come back when you grow up girl
You still got alot of time left in this world
Living aint easy, Lovings twice as tough
Come back baby when you grow up.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at February 22, 2024 07:15 PM (pV3nx)

135 125 64 58 Yeah, true enough, but "Hey let's go steal the 'R' off the Waffle House sign, I'll bring my pogo stick" is a damn far cry from "who can i call to deliver a couple children".
Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 06:55 PM (9UlRk)

Oddly specific

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 06:56 PM (IFNME)

'R' off the Waffle House sign?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 06:57 PM (ynpvh)
______
Are you trying to impose your White Spelling Privilege on us?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 22, 2024 07:13 PM (1bNHn)

Just wondering if it was the Japanese Spelling: "Warffer House"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:15 PM (ynpvh)

136 126 The 70s were such a fucked up mess then along came AIDS.
Posted by: nckate

One lead to the other. The Wages of Sin, etc.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 22, 2024 07:15 PM (v9vY1)

137 New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron has denied former President Donald Trump’s request for a 30-day stay of judgment after defense attorneys protested the attorney general’s “rush” for enforcement.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (aD39U)

They are working to seize all of the Trump properties... even in other States.

Bank on it. Oh, and THEY will decide how much the property is worth...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 22, 2024 07:15 PM (xaFKb)

138 So you're in high school. Who are you trying to 'do'? Just sayin.

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:15 PM (rbfpx)

139 130 This kind of shit never happened with The Beatles or Rush, just saying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 06:43 PM (XV/Pl)

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Didn't Jerry Lee Lewis marry an underaged cousin?

Posted by: Decaf at February 22, 2024 07:14 PM (3JfbU)

I believe she was 13 at the time.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:16 PM (ynpvh)

140 Oh and R. Kelly enters the chat.

Posted by: nckate at February 22, 2024 07:16 PM (ZGGD+)

141 Read that she dropped Page after she caught him with Bebe Buell (Liv Tylers mom). Apparently, Bebe was with quite a few rockers. Well, I was a bodyguard for a famous rocker and was driving her home one evening. She was not in a relationship with him. She was a bit tipsy and started making moves on me while driving her home. I passed, but always wondered if I gave in to temptation. Still with my wife (girlfriend at the time) for 40 years. My friends still break my balls

Posted by: fish...thelowercase one at February 22, 2024 07:16 PM (1ki7h)

142
Puts the name of Hot Tuna in a different light . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2024 07:16 PM (x0n13)

143 Many who try to tell me how to live in the media aggressively have this sick desire.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 22, 2024 07:16 PM (Eh5U4)

144 That Henley has been around for years. This is a bit more sanitized. The original one had two 16 year olds, one overdosed and the other called the cops from bathroom. Don was a little less than cooperative, but LAPD buried it. There's also the story of him forcing Stevie Nicks to get an abortion. The guy was a real prince

Posted by: Paragon at February 22, 2024 07:17 PM (U036u)

145 memphis

Posted by: vizzy at February 22, 2024 07:17 PM (qwdJy)

146 He didn't shut the party down he shut out Epstein.
Production numbers draw attention. Much better to quietly throw the bum out.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:17 PM (IdKcu)

147 I admit to liking the Eagles. Even knowing that Henley and Frey were/are assholes, and having known for some time about Henley's underage prostitute OD story. And there are a lot of other musicians from that era whose work I enjoy so much that I have to separate it from their degenerate lives. Yeah, Jimmy Page. Ted Nugent & Steven Tyler both got underage girlfriends' parents to name them as guardians so they could take the girls on tour with them. Tyler even got his underage girlfriend pregnant and pressured her to get an abortion. Journey's manager Herbie Herbert said they fired original drummer Aynsley Dunbar (formerly of Zappa's band) in large part because his taste for underage girls was putting the whole band in jeopardy on tour. And there's an old clip of Lemmy and Philthy from Motorhead discussing their track "Jailbait," joking about how they had to bring underage girls backstage to keep their fans from getting in trouble with them.

Posted by: Alex at February 22, 2024 07:17 PM (EcUen)

148 something, something, Michael Jackson, uhhh

Posted by: Ben Had at February 22, 2024 07:17 PM (xpBzi)

149
Hey Nineteen
No, we can't dance together
(We can’t dance together)
No, we can't talk at all
Please take me along
When you slide on down

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 22, 2024 07:17 PM (XeU6L)

150 To be fair, our culture today marries later than just about any I know of. For most of our history, 16 was marrying age.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 22, 2024 07:18 PM (1bNHn)

151 149
Hey Nineteen
No, we can't dance together
(We can’t dance together)
No, we can't talk at all
Please take me along
When you slide on down

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 22, 2024 07:17 PM (XeU6L)

19 is legal; under 18 is not. At least in most jurisdictions.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:19 PM (ynpvh)

152 Ooh baby baby, it's a wild world
It's hard to get by just upon a smile
Ooh baby baby, it's a wild world
I'll always remember you like a child, girl

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at February 22, 2024 07:19 PM (pV3nx)

153 Isn't Elvis a pedo?

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:20 PM (rbfpx)

154 150 To be fair, our culture today marries later than just about any I know of. For most of our history, 16 was marrying age.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 22, 2024 07:18 PM (1bNHn)

G-Grandma married at 14 or 15. He was around 24. Had (and lost) first child within a year of marriage. Granted this all took place well over 100 years ago, in Mexico.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:20 PM (ynpvh)

155 I bet a fair number of morons have grandmothers who married by age 16.

Posted by: blaster at February 22, 2024 07:20 PM (IFNME)

156 There’s only 2 or 3 tunes played on “Rock” radio. “Hot Blooded” and “Hotel California”. The rest is filled in by commercials, and power whiner Phil Collins.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2024 07:20 PM (HYyZn)

157 153 Isn't Elvis a pedo?
Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy

Probably not anymore

Posted by: Kratwurst at February 22, 2024 07:20 PM (fcDpY)

158 153 Isn't Elvis a pedo?
Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:20 PM (rbfpx)

He's dead. He now has permission . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2024 07:20 PM (x0n13)

159 Didn't people marry younger because they died younger?

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:21 PM (rbfpx)

160 Lol. Ok, very funny you guys.

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:22 PM (rbfpx)

161 One Grandma was 17, the other was 26. Great-Grandmothers, another story.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:22 PM (ynpvh)

162 19 is legal; under 18 is not. At least in most jurisdictions.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:19 PM

It depends on the state. In RI legal age is 16. Knew a couple that let their daughter be a stripper at 16 in RI, they were very proud of her.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 22, 2024 07:22 PM (QNSds)

163 Marrying at 15 or 16 is one thing.

Drugging them up and passing them around like party favors is … not the same.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2024 07:22 PM (HYyZn)

164 Wait. Elvis is DEAD!?

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:22 PM (rbfpx)

165 It's called prolonged adolescence.

Didn't we have a president, somewhere around the late 19th century shacking up with a very young girl in the White House?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:23 PM (IdKcu)

166 156 There’s only 2 or 3 tunes played on “Rock” radio. “Hot Blooded” and “Hotel California”. The rest is filled in by commercials, and power whiner Phil Collins.
Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2024 07:20 PM (HYyZn)

For a good 10 or 15 years, every other song was "Layla."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2024 07:23 PM (x0n13)

167 Didn't people marry younger because they died younger?
Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy

Average life expectancy was lower because of infant mortality. But there weren't a ton of people keeling over in their early 20s. Until the clot shot.

People married earlier because a long "adolescence" wasn't A Thing. In the depression you finished grade school and went to work. At least my grandparents did. Effective adulthood at twelve or thirteen.

Posted by: mikeski at February 22, 2024 07:23 PM (DgGvY)

168 So is "flat-bed Ford" a euphemism for an under-developed 14 year-old girl?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2024 07:24 PM (a3Q+t)

169 I'll never understand men's attraction to not-fully-mature females.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at February 22, 2024 07:24 PM (U8kCF)

170 159 Didn't people marry younger because they died younger?

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:21 PM (rbfpx)

They were considered "of age", and were young enough to have more than a dozen kids.
Then, if the wife died, the husband would marry a young woman and do it all over again, with a dozen or more kids (if he lived long enough).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:24 PM (ynpvh)

171 Goddammit; Led Zeppelin is my favorite band too, and I never knew this squalid story.

Posted by: UGAdawg at February 22, 2024 07:24 PM (tRd71)

172 Randall P McMurphy got a bad break.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2024 07:24 PM (CWkuC)

173
Young girl
Get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run, girl
You're much too young, girl

Posted by: Gary Puckett at February 22, 2024 07:24 PM (XeU6L)

174 Lot of 19th century marriages at 14.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:24 PM (IdKcu)

175 Greg Price @greg_price11 Feb 20
Nikki Haley remaining in the race despite having no chance of winning prevents the RNC from declaring Trump the presumptive nominee and forming joint fundraising committees of which Biden campaign's with the DNC have $130M cash on hand and have already spent $50M+ in swing states

Sean Davis @seanmdav Feb 20
Nikki Haley’s campaign is an extended audition for a job in Joe Biden’s cabinet. We can all see what she’s doing.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 07:25 PM (2yu8s)

176 166 156 There’s only 2 or 3 tunes played on “Rock” radio. “Hot Blooded” and “Hotel California”. The rest is filled in by commercials, and power whiner Phil Collins.
Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2024 07:20 PM (HYyZn)

For a good 10 or 15 years, every other song was "Layla."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 22, 2024 07:23 PM (x0n13)

Layla. Is that the one with Eric Clapton on Cocaine?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:25 PM (ynpvh)

177 Effective adulthood at twelve or thirteen.

Posted by: mikeski at February 22, 2024 07:23 PM (DgGvY)

Great comment. And now? 40?

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:25 PM (rbfpx)

178 People married young because they were expected to be adults at 16, not extended childhood into their 40s like today.

David Farragut, of “Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead!” Navy fame, commanded his first ship at 15

Infantilization is almost complete. Just turn on the TV.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2024 07:25 PM (HYyZn)

179 Wait. Elvis is DEAD!?
Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:22 PM

Nah, he just only comments on the ONT these days.

TBF, from a Day-Walker perspective, that's pretty much the same thing.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2024 07:26 PM (a3Q+t)

180 I can't imagine being a grown woman and being turned on by a 13 year old boy. But then again I'm not a teacher.

Posted by: nckate at February 22, 2024 07:26 PM (ZGGD+)

181 Layla. Is that the one with Eric Clapton on Cocaine?

And heroin, booze, pot, pills, and anything else that was available.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at February 22, 2024 07:26 PM (v9vY1)

182 "For most of our history, 16 was marrying age."

That was before they invented the concept of "teenagers" as a demographic that wasn't children but still wasn't expected to do anything useful.

If we got rid of that demographic concept and allowed them to work and earn money, 16 might start to be a reasonable age for marriage again.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 22, 2024 07:26 PM (ou9hh)

183 Got plumbing but the wiring needs some time.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 22, 2024 07:26 PM (Eh5U4)

184 Both sets of my grandparents finished school at the 3rd grade then they went to work.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:26 PM (IdKcu)

185 175 Greg Price @greg_price11 Feb 20
Nikki Haley remaining in the race despite having no chance of winning prevents the RNC from declaring Trump the presumptive nominee and forming joint fundraising committees of which Biden campaign's with the DNC have $130M cash on hand and have already spent $50M+ in swing states

Sean Davis @seanmdav Feb 20
Nikki Haley’s campaign is an extended audition for a job in Joe Biden’s cabinet. We can all see what she’s doing.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 07:25 PM (2yu8s)

It's what she's being paid to do.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:26 PM (ynpvh)

186 Don't you already have an immense hatred for the Eagles? I kind of remember you live tweeting their documentary, basically saying how shitty they all are (and how Glen Fryw's entire career in based off Henley making him look good)

Posted by: Rbastid at February 22, 2024 07:27 PM (3bSp1)

187 105 The question was where were the parents?

Sometimes the parents are experiencing their own drama, some parents just don’t care’ some parents are just fine with hypersexualized children.

And sometimes teenagers do a really good job of fooling their parents about their whereabouts
Posted by: kallisto
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The 60's through the 80's were the time of latchkey children that basically raised themselves. Fast Times at Ridgemont High is kind of a memorial to that time. It was based on Rolling Stones Cameron Crowe's columns and then book about him reliving high school basically if I recall properly.

There is a reason that Gen X is the way that it is.

Posted by: whig at February 22, 2024 07:27 PM (ScVFX)

188 Goddammit; Led Zeppelin is my favorite band too, and I never knew this squalid story.
Posted by: UGAdawg at February 22, 2024 07:24 PM

TBF, it's not like Frank Zappa didn't try to tell us.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2024 07:28 PM (a3Q+t)

189 Infantilization is almost complete. Just turn on the TV.
Posted by: Common Tater

You Judgey McJudgerson!!

Posted by: Adult Baby Fetish Enthusiastss at February 22, 2024 07:28 PM (v9vY1)

190 "Led Zeppelin is my favorite band too, and I never knew this squalid story.
Posted by: UGAdawg "

Let me tell you about the mudshark.

Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at February 22, 2024 07:28 PM (vFG9F)

191
She was only sixteen, only sixteen (Sixteen, sixteen)
I loved her so
But she was too young to fall in love (Sixteen, sixteen)
And I was too young to know

Posted by: Sam Cooke at February 22, 2024 07:29 PM (XeU6L)

192 Doesn't matter that 16 was marrying age. Why would an adult man be attracted to a barely pubescent girl?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at February 22, 2024 07:29 PM (U8kCF)

193 1 What did Pete Townsend do?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 22, 2024 06:41 PM (Dm8we)

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If that question is serious, Pete got busted with a bunch of kiddie pron on his computer and claimed he was doing research for some new music and the pedophiles in the entertainment industry came to his side

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 22, 2024 07:29 PM (xw1WS)

194 184 Both sets of my grandparents finished school at the 3rd grade then they went to work.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:26 PM (IdKcu)

A Great-Grandmother lost her mother as a baby and had to work as a clothes washer at the age of about 8 on up. Hard life. Married into a rich family (that she did the work for), but they shunned her and when her husband died at the age of 42, she was left with three young children with no way of taking care of them. The kids ended up in an orphanage for a short time before she was able to start taking care of them again. Died at the age of 60.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:29 PM (ynpvh)

195 171 Goddammit; Led Zeppelin is my favorite band too, and I never knew this squalid story.
Posted by: UGAdawg

More stories if you want them. A lot of them center on Jimmy Page and the drummer.

Posted by: whig at February 22, 2024 07:30 PM (ScVFX)

196 175 Greg Price @greg_price11 Feb 20
Nikki Haley remaining in the race despite having no chance of winning prevents the RNC from declaring Trump the presumptive nominee and forming joint fundraising committees of which Biden campaign's with the DNC have $130M cash on hand and have already spent $50M+ in swing states

Sean Davis @seanmdav Feb 20
Nikki Haley’s campaign is an extended audition for a job in Joe Biden’s cabinet. We can all see what she’s doing.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s)
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The Heritage Foundation’s Oversight Project revealed in a thread on X that “the rigging of the 2024 election is well underway,” as “Biden has tasked the entirety of the federal government to work directly with Democrat Get-Out-The-Vote operations” –
_National File

Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:30 PM (IdKcu)

197 Shit, now it feels like banging the average 25 year old is like jumping a cripple or a retard to get your rocks off.

It's just not fair.

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 07:31 PM (9UlRk)

198 Got plumbing but the wiring needs some time.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot
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She was fifteen years old, going on thirty-five, Doc, and she told me she was eighteen...

Posted by: McMurphy at February 22, 2024 07:31 PM (XeU6L)

199 192 Doesn't matter that 16 was marrying age. Why would an adult man be attracted to a barely pubescent girl?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at February 22, 2024 07:29 PM (U8kCF)

The things I've seen in Mexican marriage records from pre-20th Century. One had a 70-year-old marrying a 15 year old...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:31 PM (ynpvh)

200 Pete Townsend always gave off a creepy vibe.

Posted by: DaisyB at February 22, 2024 07:31 PM (AbL8c)

201 @137

>>Bank on it. Oh, and THEY will decide how much the property is worth...

Well, yeah, that's what this whole Op was about, they are going to expropriate his properties and garnish all of his available funds as well as preclude him from getting loans or seeking any means of financial aid.

He's got a GoFund Me going, a bet a G that they go after that.

These people, and I use that term loosely, are monsters.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 07:32 PM (XV/Pl)

202 More stories if you want them. A lot of them center on Jimmy Page and the drummer.

Posted by: whig
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What's that old country song? 'Together Again'

Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:32 PM (IdKcu)

203 Doesn't matter that 16 was marrying age. Why would an adult man be attracted to a barely pubescent girl?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at February 22, 2024 07:29 PM (U8kCF)

Because the "man" was 18 and had already been working for a few years at manual labor?

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:32 PM (rbfpx)

204 "Doesn't matter that 16 was marrying age. Why would an adult man be attracted to a barely pubescent girl?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at February 22, 2024 07:29 PM (U8kCF)

The things I've seen in Mexican marriage records from pre-20th Century. One had a 70-year-old marrying a 15 year old...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)"

Because he's a dirty old pervert?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 22, 2024 07:33 PM (ou9hh)

205 Brendan Carr @BrendanCarrFCC 2h
The FCC just ordered every broadcaster to start posting a race & gender scorecard that breaks down the demographics of their workforce.

Activists lobbied for this b/c they want to see businesses pressured into hiring people based on their race & gender.

Courts have already overturned the FCC *twice* for pressuring broadcasters into making hiring decisions in violation of the Constitution.

I dissent.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 07:33 PM (2yu8s)

206 He's got a GoFund Me going, a bet a G that they go after that.

These people, and I use that term loosely, are monsters.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 22, 2024 07:32 PM (XV/Pl)

Ooooh, there's a delightful deviousness to that....

A great big fat pot of everyone else's honey. Great way to secure allies.

Posted by: Warai-O'toko at February 22, 2024 07:33 PM (9UlRk)

207 Nood

Posted by: nckate at February 22, 2024 07:34 PM (ZGGD+)

208 If that question is serious, Pete got busted with a bunch of kiddie pron on his computer and claimed he was doing research for some new music and the pedophiles in the entertainment industry came to his side
Posted by: Lemmiwinks
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No, he got busted because he tried to enter a monitored child porn site allegedly for research. Townshend apparently entered a credit card needed for access to the site. The British police carted off his computers and allegedly found no images on them. So no prosecution.

Story is in Daily Mail. http://tinyurl.com/v7dxap25

Posted by: whig at February 22, 2024 07:34 PM (ScVFX)

209 >>Doesn't matter that 16 was marrying age. Why would an adult man be attracted to a barely pubescent girl?

Mary Kay Latourneau was 34 when she had an affair with a 13 year old boy.

The pendulum swings both ways.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 22, 2024 07:35 PM (CWkuC)

210 "Kip Winger has composed classical music symphonies, believe it or not.”

Seriously? Winger was easily one of the worst hair metal bands that weren’t playing warm up sets at the Whisky A Go Go; I’m genuinely curious how his classical arrangements sound

Posted by: UGAdawg at February 22, 2024 07:35 PM (tRd71)

211 See also: Mamas and Papas (Phillips)

The first hippies or “Freaks” were Vito Paulekas and his merry band of dancers. That’s how the Byrds got started at the Whiskey.

An interesting cat for sure. He was a “sculptor” in LA and seemed to be in all the period films. His child was supposed to play lucifer in the Kenneth Anger film, but they dosed him on acid and he fell through a skylight on the roof of a building. It was said they passed him around … sexually.

LA and the music biz has always been strange.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2024 07:35 PM (HYyZn)

212
Chucky Lee Bird...
https://youtu.be/T9awpv5BnSc

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 22, 2024 07:36 PM (ynpvh)

213 The Café is open.

Wear you oxygen breathing apparatus.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 22, 2024 07:37 PM (a3Q+t)

214 123 So even someone as famous as Henley needed to order underage prostitutes? Obviously the groupies were too old. Yep, scum of the earth and I bet if Epstein had been around then Henley would have been on his express and island.
Posted by: Decaf at February 22, 2024 07:12 PM (3JfbU)

You don't hire a prostitute for sex, you hire them to keep quiet about the sex.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at February 22, 2024 07:38 PM (aGT/k)

215 “he got busted because he tried to enter a monitored child porn site for research.”

Sure, Jan. “Research”. Does anybody really believe that?

Posted by: Common Tater at February 22, 2024 07:38 PM (HYyZn)

216 202 More stories if you want them. A lot of them center on Jimmy Page and the drummer.

Posted by: whig
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Page's interest in the occult ended up with several stories about that and some of their practices. Page bought Boleskine House which was previously owned by Aleister Crowley on purpose due to Page meeting Crowley at 15 and becoming a lifelong admirer.

Posted by: whig at February 22, 2024 07:39 PM (ScVFX)

217 205 Brendan Carr @BrendanCarrFCC 2h
The FCC just ordered every broadcaster to start posting a race & gender scorecard that breaks down the demographics of their workforce.

Activists lobbied for this b/c they want to see businesses pressured into hiring people based on their race & gender.

Courts have already overturned the FCC *twice* for pressuring broadcasters into making hiring decisions in violation of the Constitution.

I dissent.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 22, 2024 07:33 PM (2yu8s)

I worked in radio in the 80's and 90's and that was going on back then. It is nothing new.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at February 22, 2024 07:41 PM (aGT/k)

218 215 “he got busted because he tried to enter a monitored child porn site for research.”

Sure, Jan. “Research”. Does anybody really believe that?
Posted by: Common Tater
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Daily Mail did quite a bit of coverage but you can also find the contemporary stories in 1999. Approximately 7000 people were caught in the UK via credit card access to child porn sites at the time.

Not having the images on his computers probably saved Townshend from three child porn charges according to other stories. He was given a caution.

Posted by: whig at February 22, 2024 07:41 PM (ScVFX)

219 Hello. Nude.

Posted by: Big fat cracker daddy at February 22, 2024 07:41 PM (rbfpx)

220 You don't hire a prostitute for sex, you hire them to keep quiet about the sex.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at February 22, 2024 07:38 PM (aGT/k)

...and to go home.

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at February 22, 2024 07:43 PM (rbfpx)

221 The things I've seen in Mexican marriage records from pre-20th Century. One had a 70-year-old marrying a 15 year old...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)"

Because he's a dirty old pervert?

Posted by: FeatherBlade
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Because the old man had money and she was stuck in the hacienda system. Marriage was a ticket to security and freedom.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 22, 2024 07:46 PM (IdKcu)

222 OK, so that's why The Dude (Lebowski) hates the Eagles. Cause Henley is a douche.

Posted by: Fritz at February 22, 2024 08:05 PM (iaU0Y)

223 Ah yes, Ace. Hammer of the Gods....

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at February 22, 2024 08:31 PM (xaNfJ)

224 I think the idea that American women married in their teens in earlier times is not true. I have read, and a quick brave, fwiw, confirms that saying, for example, "In 1890, when the U.S. Census Bureau started collecting marriage data, it was recorded that the average age of a first marriage for men was 26 years, and the average age of marriage for women was 22 years."

I haven't really researched the topic though. My own Greatgrandmother married at 16 to a 60 year old veteran, but that is an outlier I think. Times were tough and he owned his tobacco farm.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 22, 2024 08:32 PM (aD39U)

225 I don't even give my 13 year old the aspirin Don claims to have been getting that coked up girl.

Posted by: bskb at February 22, 2024 08:59 PM (+gI2R)

226 Gregg Allman and Ted Nugent enter the chat ...

Posted by: Baked Into the Cake at February 22, 2024 09:10 PM (5O71C)

227 I haven't purposely listened to the Eagles since watching the documentary of the band. I couldn't tell who was more of obnoxious dirtbag, Frey or Henley.

Posted by: leber at February 22, 2024 10:29 PM (rovGg)

228 Test

Posted by: Test Field at February 22, 2024 11:46 PM (ATT5q)

229 When Paul McCartney wrote "She was just 17", he was 20. Just sayin'. A lot of the teen girls in songs are there because rock'n'roll was music for teenagers, and the artists often weren't much older than teenagers. After the 60's was when that changed and everything got more creepy.

Posted by: dabhidh at February 23, 2024 12:18 AM (vNy0Y)

230 1. 16 is legal in the UK.
2. It's hard to explain to people who didn't live through the 1970s and early 80s, but: Parents gave daughters a huge amount of freedom. Weren't supposed to suppress natural desires, or something like that. Moms showed up at hotels where their daughters were cavorting with rock stars. Mom demands entrance, and stays for the fun. Every band from the period has stories like this.
3. Tippi Hedren met young, starving Don Johnson on a movie set. Tippi's daughter Melanie Griffith was 13 or 14 and like many of her peers, was way out of control. Tippi invited Don to move in with Melanie. He did and they were a couple for 20 years or more. This was detailed in a People article when Mel turned 18 that didn't even blush at the whole concept. It was unremarkable.
4. Age of consent in the state I grew up in was 13 in the 1970s. Mexican culture.
5. The Don Henley case happened toward the end of that era. It made the news, probably because of the near death. But the 6th Eagle, lawyer Irving Azoff, was good at making problems go away.
6. When the Eagles reunited in 1988, all band members had to be clean, and reasonably sober.

Posted by: Gordon at February 23, 2024 01:43 PM (ZVR/N)

231 Oh, and it wasn't just California culture. When they were on the gospel circuit, the Oak Ridge Boys had their pick of gorgeous girls, and you can bet the girls' mom knew exactly where the daughter was. When the Boys went mainstream country, their poon opportunities *decreased.* I suspect this is still true of bands and preachers on the gospel circuit, but it's been a while since I was around it.

Posted by: Gordon at February 23, 2024 01:52 PM (ZVR/N)

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