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Mitt Romney and 21 Deep State Republican Turncoats Pass $95 Billion Ukraine Aid Package -- With No Protections for Our Border

Wow, it's almost as if... this was their plan all along.

Greg Price
@greg_price11

BREAKING: The senate just pulled an all nighter and officially passed their $95B foreign aid bill for Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan with nothing for the southern border

The final vote was 70-29 with 22 Republicans voting yes.

McConnell, Thune, Boozman, Capito, Cassidy, Collins, Cornyn, Cramer, Crapo, Ernst, Grassley, Hoeven, Kennedy, Moran, Murkowski, Risch, Romney, Rounds, Sullivan, Tillis, Wicker and Young.

Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker

Nothing to see here, folks. Just foreign nations and war grifters looting taxpayers while America gets invaded by millions of illegal aliens.

We're not subverted or anything, though. Don't worry.

I would have accepted funding for Ukraine so long as America's national security was also funded.

But the NOPe said no, we have to pass the agenda of the Democrat Party and the Deep State.

And what about the House? There would surely be enough liberal Fake Republicans to vote with the Democrats to pass this bill in the House if the Speaker scheduled a vote... but in the House, the Speaker does get to decide if a vote will be scheduled or not.

Will Johnson do so, or hang tough? Will he honor his prior promise to only pass aid for Ukraine's border if the American border is secured first?

The foreign propaganda outlet AP:

House Speaker Mike Johnson late Monday sharply criticized a $95.3 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and other countries, casting serious doubts about the future of the package just as Senate leaders were slowly muscling it ahead in hopes of sending a message that the U.S. remains committed to its allies.

The Republican speaker said the package lacked border security provisions, calling it "silent on the most pressing issue facing our country." It was the latest -- and potentially most consequential -- sign of opposition to the Ukraine aid from conservatives who have for months demanded that border security policy be included in the package, only to last week reject a bipartisan proposal intended to curb the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border


Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:09 PM




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1 First!

Posted by: jmel at February 13, 2024 02:10 PM (RWHIh)

2 Evil

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2024 02:10 PM (zjgNU)

3 We are ruled by evil people. Party designation doesn't really matter.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2024 02:10 PM (zjgNU)

4 I would have accepted funding for Ukraine so long as America's national security was also funded.

Ditto. And Romney can lick my taint. Ooooh, does that mean I'm on the far reaches of my party?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2024 02:11 PM (CsUN+)

5 Seriously, would you expect anything less? Gotta keep laundering that foreign aid money

Posted by: Devil Slayer at February 13, 2024 02:11 PM (VOCjX)

6 Man that Pierre Delecto fellow is an enfuriating man. Well enfuriating anyway.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 13, 2024 02:11 PM (zssUw)

7 Small update: Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin has apparently been in contact with members of the House about using a discharge petition to force the bill to a vote, if Speaker Johnson refuses to bring it up.

Or at least that's the claim. Mullin denies it, FWIW.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:12 PM (bhRsz)

8 For the non-believers: Biden talking with Negro youths about basketball and fried chicken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rCevF2fCC8

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:12 PM (2ocoG)

9 Romney: Now, I know that the shock jocks and online instigators have riled up many in the far reaches of my party. But if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position.
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What a lame-ass argument.

Be better, Mitt.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:12 PM (yjAVs)

10 Will Johnson do so, or hang tough? Will he honor his prior promise to only pass aid for Ukraine's border if the American border is secured first?
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Ordinarily, I'd put all I've got on "he'll let it sail through."

But it's an election year and they probably want to keep up appearances, so I'm 50/50 on it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:13 PM (yjAVs)

11 Ace sneaking a peek at red-pill news? Very cool.

Posted by: t-bird at February 13, 2024 02:13 PM (qrI/m)

12 The Republican speaker said the package lacked border security provisions, calling it "silent on the most pressing issue facing our country." It was the latest -- and potentially most consequential -- sign of opposition to the Ukraine aid from conservatives who have for months demanded that border security policy be included in the package, only to last week reject a bipartisan proposal intended to curb the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border
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LOL. Yeah. "Curb the number of illegal crossings" to levels that were record-breaking a year ago.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:14 PM (yjAVs)

13 Did the bill still have that poison-pill Trump impeachment bomb in it?

Posted by: MartynW at February 13, 2024 02:14 PM (sHP7b)

14 "Romney: Now, I know that the shock jocks and online instigators have riled up many in the far reaches of my party. But if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position."

Go fuck your mother in the ass, and take your bullshit lies with you. All the senate has to do is pass HB 2. They won't and this coterie of assholes that includes frauds like Ernst, and idiots like Cassidy and Tillis who also told us we totes need to pass the "infrastructure" Bill should be driven from the party. The rest of them can go sniff coke of Murkokski's ass crack.

Good thing Johnson said it's DOA in the House and won't be brought up.

Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:14 PM (rgYFf)

15 >>>Ditto. And Romney can lick my taint. Ooooh, does that mean I'm on the far reaches of my party?

it means you're a "shock jock"

Posted by: ace at February 13, 2024 02:14 PM (KRtlO)

16 I like the "I'm Trump lowers the cash, it's impeachment right away" part. Unless they removed that. Cause sacred honor demands we give all the money to Ukraine, until the last Ukrainian falls. Which at the rate they are going, may happen in the next couple years.

Posted by: Bete at February 13, 2024 02:15 PM (LX4y3)

17 Has anyone pointed out to the Senate that since their last shitty "deal" failed, they *could* have played this differently? They could have done either of two things:
1. Make a new "deal" that doesn't suck so much
2. Pass border control first as its own bill, then pass Ukraine second

They had two choices that would have let them pretend that they care about the security and cultural disaster that is the southern border. They took neither option, instead choosing to yell, "go fuck yourself" at the public and hurl yet more money we don't have at a foreign war.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:15 PM (yjAVs)

18 Remember those J6 videos? The ones where our bloated aristocracy class were running scared for 5 minutes because they actually thought there was a chance they’d finally face accountability?

Posted by: Trump at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM (4yRM/)

19 it means you're a "shock jock"
Posted by: ace at February 13, 2024 02:14 PM (KRtlO)
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Sign me up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM (yjAVs)

20 I'll say again ; Romney saying that was the most important vote he ever cast is the most Romniest of Romney things ever

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM (DgSZ/)

21 There are times I wish I had a time machine and it could teleport.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM (qZdIZ)

22 I do not give any shits about Ukraine. Or NATO for that matter.

Posted by: huerfano at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM (Q4KYm)

23 Current lie: we gave you a bill that protected the border but you rejected it!

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM (xhfG9)

24 I heard that the Senate bill also includes a provision that if funding is cut in 2025 or 2026 against the advice of "career officials" it becomes a matter for which a president could be impeached. ie, the plan is to tie the hands of a second term Trump.

Pierre Delecto can't be replaced fast enough. And seriously, Utah, do a hell of a lot better next time.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM (a/dOO)

25 I think we're well into the "Looting the Empire" stage of the Fall of the Empire. It's that stage were nobody gives a shit anymore, nobody thinks the empire will survive, so the powerful and connected just steal everything that isn't locked down . . . and then get crow bars to remove the shit that is locked down.

After this? The deluge.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (iFTx/)

26 Mitt should have been the one strapped to the top of the station wagon and then been flipped upside down in the Salt Lake.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (OZjDX)

27 Good thing Johnson said it's DOA in the House and won't be brought up.
Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:14 PM (rgYFf)


Unless (see my post above) the RINOs try to use a discharge petition or some other sleight-of-hand to bring it up in spite of Johnson.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (bhRsz)

28 Johnson better have some balls

Posted by: Gonzotx at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (MwHgU)

29 The Republican party needs to be absolutely destroyed.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (zjgNU)

30 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (dg271)

31 What did Lankford do?

Posted by: SimoHayha at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (AxRGS)

32 Romney: Now, I know that the shock jocks and online instigators have riled up many in the far reaches of my party. But if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position.

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If Zelenskyy told him to jump off a bridge, he'd do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

33 The House largely gets it. They realize that people are ready to burn down Frankenstein's castle if something isn't done on illegal immigration. The Senate doesn't give a shit. They apparently like the invasion and the fentanyl that's killing Americans every hour.

That's why it's rumored the Whore House is even considering shutting the border as an election ploy.

Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (rgYFf)

34 Take it to the streets.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 13, 2024 02:18 PM (2fIO4)

35 Well at least the House was smart and slimmed down the margin of majority by one by getting rid of that guy Santos!

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2024 02:18 PM (xhfG9)

36 Pierre Delecto can't be replaced fast enough. And seriously, Utah, do a hell of a lot better next time.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM


Mitt Romney is the Pierre Delecto of Mitt Romneys.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 13, 2024 02:18 PM (Wnv9h)

37 I think we're well into the "Looting the Empire" stage of the Fall of the Empire. It's that stage were nobody gives a shit anymore, nobody thinks the empire will survive, so the powerful and connected just steal everything that isn't locked down . . . and then get crow bars to remove the shit that is locked down.

Slight disagree: the aristocracy thinks they can genocide the middle class and then loot indefinitely because hamburgers come from McDonalds and electricity comes from outlets. They haven't been sending their best for well over 100 years.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:18 PM (2ocoG)

38 "Unless (see my post above) the RINOs try to use a discharge petition or some other sleight-of-hand to bring it up in spite of Johnson.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (bhRsz)@

A discharge petition will never work. The Democrats leader said so himself. Nobody is as dumb as the senate.

Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:19 PM (rgYFf)

39 I heard that the Senate bill also includes a provision that if funding is cut in 2025 or 2026 against the advice of "career officials" it becomes a matter for which a president could be impeached. ie, the plan is to tie the hands of a second term Trump.

Pierre Delecto can't be replaced fast enough. And seriously, Utah, do a hell of a lot better next time.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM (a/dOO)
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They cannot bind a future Congress. They can try to create an excuse, but the future Congress has to play along.

I have little doubt that it *would* play along, but they cannot compel it to. They can put in the bill that as of 2025, taking a morning shit is reasonable cause for an impeachment. It doesn't mean they can actually enforce it.

But the attitude is the worst part of it, as well as the conclusion. "If you disagree with the technocrats, we consider cause to remove you from office" is a firm and clear statement about who is actually in charge.

Spoiler Alert: it ain't the President.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:19 PM (yjAVs)

40 I understand the criticism of the Aid package bill itself and the people who voted for it but I don’t understand the criticism that it didn't include Domestic border control funding.

I thought the goal was to have stand alone bills.

Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 02:19 PM (MNhXM)

41 I think all of those Senators are from nominally "red" states, except maybe AK?

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 13, 2024 02:19 PM (MvF+J)

42 >>>Romney: Now, I know that the shock jocks and online instigators have riled up many in the far reaches of my party. But if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position.


So whatever Putin says, we have to disagree with automatically without any inquiry. Got it.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (bhRsz)

43 >>McConnell, Thune, Boozman, Capito, Cassidy, Collins, Cornyn, Cramer, Crapo, Ernst, Grassley, Hoeven, Kennedy, Moran, Murkowski, Risch, Romney, Rounds, Sullivan, Tillis, Wicker and Young.

A Murderers Row of Goofballs and Chuckleheads.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (XV/Pl)

44 29 The Republican party needs to be absolutely destroyed.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (zjgNU)

I was doing my best. Have you seen the latest flower centerpieces?

Posted by: Ronna Romney McDaniel at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (a/dOO)

45 Shock jock? Bro 2002 called and wants its slang back.

Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (YofvK)

46 I think all of those Senators are from nominally "red" states, except maybe AK?

Utah may have the widest ideological swing in the country between their two senators (Mike Lee and Romney).

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (2ocoG)

47 Is this one of those spending bill originating in someplace other than the House or just fake money to defense contractors for weapons not for the US?

Posted by: huerfano at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (Q4KYm)

48 I understand the criticism of the Aid package bill itself and the people who voted for it but I don’t understand the criticism that it didn't include Domestic border control funding.

I thought the goal was to have stand alone bills.
Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 02:19 PM (MNhXM)
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All bills should be standalone.

And the Senate could have chosen to tackle the border first. It chose not to. It took the attitude of, "well, since you called our bluff on the bad 'deal' last time, here's a hearty 'fuck you' as a follow-up."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (yjAVs)

49 Someone should ask Mitt and the rest where their stand alone border security bill is.

Surely they have one, right?

Right?

Posted by: SimoHayha at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (AxRGS)

50 Mormons don't just grow on trees. You have to import them. Fuck.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (Hpgos)

51 I'm not sure which is funnier - Obama still refusing to admit he was wrong about Russia, or Romney thinking that Russia being bad proves Ukraine is good.
But either way, the 2012 election was a real Sophie's Choice.

Posted by: Wally at February 13, 2024 02:21 PM (hqVaF)

52 They seriously thought putting a poison pill about the border in the original bill would gain them republican votes. That tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:21 PM (lTGtQ)

53 The one bad surprise was Kennedy. The rest are known bastards. I notice Rubio seems to have learnt his lesson, and now knows which side his bread is buttered on.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 13, 2024 02:21 PM (1bNHn)

54 46 Utah may have the widest ideological swing in the country between their two senators (Mike Lee and Romney).
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (2ocoG)

=========

Heck.

I remember when Mike Lee was called one of Google's senators.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

55 I'm starting to suspect the Uniparty doesn't work for the American citizens....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 13, 2024 02:21 PM (xcxpd)

56 Almost 2/3rds of the Republican Party voters and a clear majority of Independents want the border shut down. But yeah, they're all extremists or something. Meanwhile these assholes want more money for a proxy war with nuclear implications. But that's totes their priority. Not the American people who elected them and whom they fucking serve.

Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:21 PM (rgYFf)

57 if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position.

The danger for Pierre here is that people might well reconsider their position...on Putin and the media. "Why does the media narrative never match his record or statements?"

Posted by: t-bird at February 13, 2024 02:21 PM (moEfX)

58 32 Only if that were how he picked up the graft. Romney ain't in this for Sacred Honor, he expects to be paid.

Posted by: Bete at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (LX4y3)

59 Does Romney get 10% like the big guy as well?

Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (YofvK)

60 48 All bills should be standalone.

And the Senate could have chosen to tackle the border first. It chose not to. It took the attitude of, "well, since you called our bluff on the bad 'deal' last time, here's a hearty 'fuck you' as a follow-up."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (yjAVs)

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Demanding Congress address domestic national security concerns before funding a regional war half a world away is treason.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

61 I thought the goal was to have stand alone bills.

Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 02:19 PM (MNhXM)

I'm fine with standalone bills. But if so, pass border first, Ukraine second. Because if the GOPe and the Dems have their way, it's Ukraine first and only.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (a/dOO)

62 think we're well into the "Looting the Empire" stage of the Fall of the Empire. It's that stage were nobody gives a shit anymore, nobody thinks the empire will survive, so the powerful and connected just steal everything that isn't locked down . . . and then get crow bars to remove the shit that is locked down.

After this? The deluge.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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WELCOME.TO THE PARTY PAL!!!!!

Posted by: John McClane at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (KFe8J)

63 On the bright side, maybe Cornyn is going to retire. Otherwise, why would he vote yes?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (lTGtQ)

64 Were any two of the 22 senators from the same state? A two-fer?

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (MvF+J)

65 Demanding Congress address domestic national security concerns before funding a regional war half a world away is treason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Right, I forgot. Boy is my face red.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (yjAVs)

66 They cannot bind a future Congress. They can try to create an excuse, but the future Congress has to play along.
....

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:19 PM (yjAVs)


They can, however, pass a law that is in effect in the future which is how it workd. The bill doesn't say "this is how we impeach Trump" but it creates a legal condition that the President could violate and thus be up for impeachment. Unless, of course, the law is changed.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (xhfG9)

67 They're out in full fascion over this. I saw somebody asking in a forum if Johnson could be removed if he didn't let this come to the floor.

Hey, let's set a precedent that will remove Shroomer if he doesn't let bills come to the Senate floor while we're at it, too!

Probably doesn't want to hear that. Probably would think it's a lie made up by Fox News.

Posted by: Axeman at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (krQz2)

68 @ChadPergram

Johnson on foreign aid bill: National security begins with border security. We've said that all along. That has been my comment since late October. That is my comment today

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (LkLld)

69 Demanding Congress address domestic national security concerns before funding a regional war half a world away is treason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)


Are we not "citizens of the world"?

Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (bhRsz)

70 I remember when Mike Lee was called one of Google's senators.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

He only agrees with me 99% of the time, therefore he’s dead to me.

Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (YofvK)

71 The point is secure the border first. That's the priority. You want money for foreign adventures? Take care of the American people first. Otherwise go hang your self or go to Ukraine and sign up.

Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (rgYFf)

72 Romney is personally profiting from this graft. Where is the special counsel when you need him?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (lTGtQ)

73 The most important vote Mitt could take would be the one where he decides to shuffle off the Arlington Memorial bridge with 50# weights on each leg.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (KAi1n)

74 I think Abbott needs to start busing illegals to Salt Lake City. Drop them off right in Temple Square.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (9yWhg)

75 Demanding Congress address domestic national security concerns before funding a regional war half a world away is treason.
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WORSE THAN TREASON -- ITS DECLASSE !!!!!!

Posted by: Mitt Rombley at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (KFe8J)

76 Romney is a slimy huckster who I have to admit tricked me in 2008. In my defense he was up against McCain. And in 2012 he was up against Obama.

Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (MNhXM)

77 I think we're well into the "Looting the Empire" stage of the Fall of the Empire. It's that stage were nobody gives a shit anymore, nobody thinks the empire will survive, so the powerful and connected just steal everything that isn't locked down . . . and then get crow bars to remove the shit that is locked down.

After this? The deluge.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 13, 2024 02:17 PM (iFTx/)

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My guess is that they all think they've purchased private army protection from The Cartels -- who will torture them & their families for the stolen loot before splitting their throats.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (BgMsz)

78 Why does it take 95+ Billion to make a few hundred people in Kiev and DC into Millionaires??

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (nSDU/)

79 Every last one of them has sucked young boy cock and would sell his grandchild for another contribution.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (eYF7X)

80 Romney is McCain without the plane crashes.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (b7Y2i)

81 Romney: Now, I know that the shock jocks and online instigators have riled up many in the far reaches of my party.

-

The far reaches, which includes approximately 77% of the party.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (lTGtQ)

82 70 I remember when Mike Lee was called one of Google's senators.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

He only agrees with me 99% of the time, therefore he’s dead to me.
Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (YofvK)

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When the 99% is meaninglessness and deals mostly in small bills that don't matter while the 1% is backbreaking to America, the percentages don't sway me.

All elected officials are scum and should be aggressively primaried at every opportunity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

83 27 Good thing Johnson said it's DOA in the House and won't be brought up.
Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:14 PM (rgYFf)


Unless (see my post above) the RINOs try to use a discharge petition or some other sleight-of-hand to bring it up in spite of Johnson.
Posted by: Dr. T
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The Gang and their compatriots in the House want Israel reined in via aid conditions and that means no clean Senate bill.

To get the discharge over the hump, 5 is number of GOP members have to sign off on it if they use the previous discharge petition which has all Democrats right now. They will need more if the leftist members of Congress retract their signatures over the lack of restrictions on aid to Israel.

Posted by: The Who at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (9FrDg)

84 Remember when all we needed to do to support Ukraine was sanctions on Russia?
Then only seizing the private property of Russian citizens?
Then, just a few billion?
And it'll be over in 3 months?
And then another few tens of billions?
Now we're up over $150 billion?
But the $5 billion for our security at the southern border was unacceptably too much?
And now over 400,000 Ukraine men are dead?
But we need to borrow more money to loan to Ukraine so they can continue to die, forced to buy our used equipment, that they neither have the men nor training to use?
And that's THE Most Important Issue in America.
Satan spreads his wings and hugs Mitt Romney.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (cSaKW)

85 Those Republican senators who voted to fund Ukraine probably don't hang out in their home states too much. They can hang out in DC so they don't have to face those who are labeled their 'constituents'.

Posted by: DaveD at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (WrzlM)

86 I think Abbott needs to start busing illegals to Salt Lake City. Drop them off right in Temple Square.

Salt Lake City is all ex-San Fran tech bros. Has been since the 90s to some extent but got revved up in the last 10 years from what I understand.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (2ocoG)

87 53 The one bad surprise was Kennedy. The rest are known bastards. I notice Rubio seems to have learnt his lesson, and now knows which side his bread is buttered on.


I just dont understand him ... why?!?

meanwhile the war isn't going to be won so I get that the Senate needs the grift to keep going but for us out here in the cold, it could mean an escalation ... which we definitely do not want.

I think I'm saying the ONLY way Ukraine gets their lands back and made whole involves a lot of American soldiers... and for some reason Russia NOT using any nukes

and that's a big NOPE from me (and hopefully everyone). let's end this now.

this bill goes away and suddenly Z will have to negotiate. Rus gets Crimea and a lot of the East and that's that. Sorry guys. It sucks but you REALLY messed up when you trusted us and turned in your nukes

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (AcWfM)

88 63 On the bright side, maybe Cornyn is going to retire. Otherwise, why would he vote yes?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM (lTGtQ)


Because he knows it doesn't matter how he votes on getting reelected - he won 76% of the primary vote in 2020.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (xhfG9)

89 Not another fucking dime for Ukraine !

Posted by: Big Star at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (Modkf)

90 John FUCKING Cornyn.

May he rot in Hell.

Posted by: MRS. OLSON at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (wtvvX)

91 74 I think Abbott needs to start busing illegals to Salt Lake City. Drop them off right in Temple Square.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (9yWhg)

I take it you haven’t been to SLC in the past 25 years. The city is already overflowing with illegals. Lots of gang problems too. It’s not your father’s Utah.

Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (YofvK)

92 >Will Johnson do so, or hang tough? Will he honor his prior promise to only pass aid for Ukraine's border if the American border is secured first?

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I say the guy caves
but I expect all GOPe types to cave at every opportunity

Posted by: Don Black at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (geLO8)

93 Mildly surprised that Mx. Lindsey didn't vote for it. He was probably holding out for more $$.

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (1eY81)

94 "I would have accepted funding for Ukraine so long as America's national security was also funded."

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I'm not sure how to make it any plainer: More money for Ukraine means more dead Ukrainians. That's the point that nobody seems to want to talk about.

For what purpose? What does anyone hope to accomplish? I'm not talking about the grifters in the Senate, I'm talking about ordinary people? What do you hope will happen?

Whatever it is, it won't. Nothing good comes of this, and even if you accept some sort of bullshit benefit from "bleeding Russia," YOU'RE NOT BLEEDING RUSSIA!

They're winning. They've won. They're better off now than they were when this started. America is finished, Nato is finished, Ukraine is destroyed. That's what you accomplished.

Good for you.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:26 PM (dGCAG)

95 Interesting take from my senator, Eric Schmitt:

"Nearly every Republican Senator under the age of 55 voted NO on this America Last bill.

15 out of 17 elected since 2018 voted NO.

Things are changing, just not fast enough."

Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:26 PM (bhRsz)

96 I like how they are oblivious that the future soon-to-be Mexico del Norte will not give a damn (or have power to do anything) about Russia, Ukraine or much of anything else around the world else except finding new markets for the cartels.

Posted by: Ripley at February 13, 2024 02:26 PM (JojsZ)

97 Is there still a clause in there that impeached any president that tries to stop funding? Or was that fake news?

Posted by: InZona at February 13, 2024 02:26 PM (3m2hF)

98 The Gope will betray you.

They're just working on the fine print.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at February 13, 2024 02:26 PM (mSUe2)

99

History is watching!
History is watching!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 13, 2024 02:26 PM (63Dwl)

100 72 Romney is personally profiting from this graft. Where is the special counsel when you need him?
Posted by: Thomas Paine

First act of DJT in office if elected in 2024 is order a plethora of special counsels to investigate the corruption of Congress and unregistered foreign agents.

Posted by: The Who at February 13, 2024 02:26 PM (9FrDg)

101 Protect the Ukrainians, Fk us
Nice going

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2024 02:26 PM (fwDg9)

102 I'm not sure how to make it any plainer: More money for Ukraine means more dead Ukrainians. That's the point that nobody seems to want to talk about.

For what purpose? What does anyone hope to accomplish? I'm not talking about the grifters in the Senate, I'm talking about ordinary people? What do you hope will happen?


Zelesnky just fired his smartest general for pointing out that there aren't enough men in Ukraine to win now.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (2ocoG)

103 People, let's focus on what's important:

What does Tay Tay think?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (9yWhg)

104 Why does it take 95+ Billion to make a few hundred people in Kiev and DC into Millionaires??
Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2024 02:24 PM (nSDU/)
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Government efficiency.

Seriously.

They can't just openly steal it. That would be poor form and terribly uncouth. So they have to steal bits of it as it moves around, and eventually something along the lines of what the money was appropriated for has to show up.

So if they're creating an appropriation for the purchase of hammers, those hammers have to be delivered. But since they all have to steal during the process, those hammers end up costing $5,000 each instead of $35 each. The hammers get delivered and everyone at all levels gets to soak his beak in the overage.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (yjAVs)

105 Cornyn might as well hang a big "Kick Me" sign on his back. The guy is either a dupe or a retard. Probably both.

Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (rgYFf)

106 So protecting the government of Ukraine is vital to democracy but protecting the U.S border is not and Israel protecting itself from genocidal scum is evil.
Do I understand correctly?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (zssUw)

107 Were any two of the 22 senators from the same state? A two-fer?
Posted by: Throw gp That

Deep red idaho.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (mSUe2)

108 At this point, Mitt Romney is MUMR.

Posted by: MRS. OLSON at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (wtvvX)

109 He only agrees with me 99% of the time, therefore he’s dead to me.

Yes, we're getting 99% of what we want from Republican pols. It's really us who have let them down. We don't deserve them. They're too good for us.

Posted by: We failed them at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (UMHqX)

110 Wasn't Tag Romney on the same boards as Hunter in Ukraine?

Posted by: American Hawkman at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (skAOD)

111 The point is secure the border first. That's the priority. You want money for foreign adventures? Take care of the American people first. Otherwise go hang your self or go to Ukraine and sign up.
Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (rgYFf)

Agree. A border funding bill should have been brought up first .

Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (MNhXM)

112 We are in the looting the Empire stage

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (fwDg9)

113 >>On the bright side, maybe Cornyn is going to retire. Otherwise, why would he vote yes?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:22 PM

They'll carry that asshole out feet first. He's not up until 2026. What I can't figure out is why he didn't do the fake border bill and McConnell threw Lankford under the bus.

Posted by: huerfano at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (Q4KYm)

114 Didn't Romney or a family member have something to do with Biolabs in Ukraine? Seems to me I recall reading that. If so it explains a lot.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (DgSZ/)

115 "Shock jocks?"

What "shock jocks?"

Are Opie and Anthony still on the air? Did Howard Stern build a time machine and bring his thirty-year old act to the present?

I used to respect Romney back in the days of saving the Winter Olympics. Boy was that short-lived.

Posted by: sharksauce at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (y7wyF)

116 How about a lottery.
We send the invaders to Ukraine and let the Russians play Russian roulette with them on the front.
If they make it through a 6 month tour they become get a visa.

Posted by: Big Chips at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (aJ/Rj)

117 Wasn't Tag Romney on the same boards as Hunter in Ukraine?

Yes, and also one of the Pelosis.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (2ocoG)

118 105 Cornyn might as well hang a big "Kick Me" sign on his back. The guy is either a dupe or a retard. Probably both.
Posted by: Truthbomb at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (rgYFf)

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Or very comfortable in the knowledge of how TX GOP primaries work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

119 Crapo and Risch? F*cking hell.

I'd thought based on the survey emails he sends that Risch at least wouldn't vote for this kind of abomination.

Time to send a sternly worded email, I guess.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (ou9hh)

120 "Nearly every Republican Senator under the age of 55 voted NO on this America Last bill.

15 out of 17 elected since 2018 voted NO.

Things are changing, just not fast enough."
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:26 PM (bhRsz)

Interesting. So it’s boomers still stuck a Cold War “Russia bad” mentality making this shit happen.

Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (YofvK)

121 McConnell, Thune, Boozman, Capito, Cassidy, Collins, Cornyn, Cramer, Crapo, Ernst, Grassley, Hoeven, Kennedy, Moran, Murkowski, Risch, Romney, Rounds, Sullivan, Tillis, Wicker and Young.
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Ah yes, that sweet, sweet cheap labor. It translates directly into political contributions and consulting gigs.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (RHkDp)

122 Call me old fashioned, but, allowing ones country to be overrun by tens of thousands of military age men seems treasonous, to me.


Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (tT6L1)

123 DOA in the House.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (lf83v)

124 Salt Lake City is all ex-San Fran tech bros. Has been since the 90s to some extent but got revved up in the last 10 years from what I understand.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:25 PM (2ocoG)

SLC is basically like every other big city in this country. It's a third world shithole, run by Democrats.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (dGCAG)

125 "Romney: Now, I know that the shock jocks and online instigators have riled up many in the far reaches of my party. But if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position."

Man, and I was just recently being called a NAZI. I'm such a terrible American what with being a CommieNazi.

Anyhoo, GFYs Mitch, Mitt, and your 68 WEF peers.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (aXxgO)

126 Of course, Grassley and Ernst.

I don't think the people of our state give two licks about money for Ukraine. I’m more concerned that my adult children will have a hard time buying a house. In fact, the young adult who bought the house across the street is subsidizing his payments by renting out three bedrooms to his friends.

Posted by: Turn 2 at February 13, 2024 02:29 PM (JfxgE)

127 Technically, Romney is correct. It's only the far reaches of HIS party that opposes the Ukrainian kleptocrats. But it's an overwhelming majority of MY party.

Posted by: Wally at February 13, 2024 02:29 PM (hqVaF)

128 Looking at the list of 22 Senators I occurs to me that more than a couple are probably going to retire or not seek reelection. So, my thoughts are that there's a lot of graft piled into this shit sandwich that they'll get long after they're out of the capitol city.

Of course, embracing the power of "and" they could just be giving the rest of us a hearty fuck you as well.

In another time they'd be hanging off tree limbs and light posts.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 13, 2024 02:29 PM (Q4IgG)

129 >Johnson on foreign aid bill: National security begins with border security. We've said that all along. That has been my comment since late October. That is my comment today
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but you're a politician, and the space between what you say and what you do could hide a battleship
so what's it gonna be, numb-nuts

Posted by: Don Black at February 13, 2024 02:29 PM (geLO8)

130 Thief the taxpayers for handouts to the rich

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2024 02:29 PM (fwDg9)

131 103 People, let's focus on what's important:

What does Tay Tay think?
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The best thing about the Super Bowl is being freed of seeing Tay Tay while watching football.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 02:29 PM (Hpgos)

132 I'm old enough to remember when Romney was supposed to be the conservative answer for Trump back in 2016..

** eye roll **

Posted by: Blanco at February 13, 2024 02:29 PM (guMc0)

133 I see I was mistaken in thinking the Senate just passed the Border poison bill that had Ukraine money in it.

My white-hot rage has cooled to simple anger now that I realize they just gave up on destroying the border because getting the grift to (and from!) Ukraine was far more important.

They are still traitors, but I'm not now breaking out the tumbrils.

Still absolutely evil people ruling over us.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 13, 2024 02:29 PM (zjgNU)

134 We are ruled by evil people. Party designation doesn't really matter.
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We are at the point where the only choices are "alter or abolish."

Posted by: Methos at February 13, 2024 02:29 PM (Dnobf)

135 I'm really disappointed in John Kennedy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

136 Zelesnky just fired his smartest general for pointing out that there aren't enough men in Ukraine to win now.
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It's a mercenary army now. Americans, polish, Georgians. That is where some of the money goes...

Posted by: Mitt Rombley at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM (KFe8J)

137 A Republican legislator in Pennsylvania was stripped of his committee assignments and staff because he retweeted something about the Great Replacement Theory.

This is an evil conspiracy theory that must be suppressed, irrespective of the fact that Biden is allowing 300,000 illegals a month to enter the country.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM (YAtuc)

138 Mitt Romney is the Pierre Delecto of Mitt Romneys.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 13, 2024 02:18 PM (Wnv9h)

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That's just cruel.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM (BgMsz)

139 110 Wasn't Tag Romney on the same boards as Hunter in Ukraine?
Posted by: American Hawkman
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To be fair, no. Tag has traveled to Ukraine and runs three hedge funds at the last account that used Romney's 2012 donor lists and daddy's money to get up and running. Cofer Black, though, advisor to Romney in 2012 campaign was on Burisma's board. That does not exclude that Romney and the hedge funds have investments affected by Ukraine funding.

Posted by: The Who at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (9FrDg)

140 Who is worse, Vladimir Putin, who throws people from rooftops and invades Ukraine, or Mitt Romney, who undermines elected Presidents, sends our sons into pointless wars all over the globe, beggars the country with debt, and wipes out the real wages of honest workers?

Honest question.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (RHkDp)

141 I'd thought based on the survey emails he sends that Risch at least wouldn't vote for this kind of abomination.

by: FeatherBlade at February 13, 2024 02:28 PM (ou9hh)

I hope you’re joking and don’t really take those things seriously. Those surveys are total nonsnense and just a way to get money from you as well as validate email addresses.

Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (YofvK)

142 I wouldn't say we have won, but the future of the party is not going with this vote. That is something.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (sX1BW)

143 I take it you haven’t been to SLC in the past 25 years. The city is already overflowing with illegals. Lots of gang problems too. It’s not your father’s Utah.
Posted by: Montec


I didn't know that. I was only there once, in January '93, I think. Some cute Mormon tour girl showed me around Temple Square when all the Christmas decorations were still up. We went inside the Tabernacle (where the Choir performs); she dropped a pin in the choir loft and you could actually hear it from the audience seats. Good memory.

Sorry to hear it's gone to crap.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (9yWhg)

144 I would have accepted funding for Ukraine so long as America's national security was also funded.

That funding would only go to hiring more border patrol agents to assist in processing and relocating the immigrants, so it's actually good that it's left out. Plus, it removes the fig-leaf of advocacy the GOPe depends on to keep votes and donations incoming.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (JCZqz)

145 The best thing about the Super Bowl is being freed of seeing Tay Tay while watching football.

She used to be cute, but is currently mid-collision with The Wall.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (2ocoG)

146 "The Republican speaker said the package lacked border security provisions, calling it 'silent on the most pressing issue facing our country.' It was the latest -- and potentially most consequential -- sign of opposition to the Ukraine aid from conservatives who have for months demanded that border security policy be included in the package, only to last week reject a bipartisan proposal intended to curb the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border."


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What a long-winded, run-on, lie-packed coda this is. It circled the bowl four times.


Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (wzAuc)

147 >>Wasn't Tag Romney on the same boards as Hunter in Ukraine?

Ex-CIA honcho Cofer Black was.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (LkLld)

148 This obsession with UKR is beyond hawk stance. This is psycho-sexual obsession.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (IG4Id)

149 A Republican legislator in Pennsylvania was stripped of his committee assignments and staff because he retweeted something about the Great Replacement Theory.

This is an evil conspiracy theory that must be suppressed, irrespective of the fact that Biden is allowing 300,000 illegals a month to enter the country.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM (YAtuc)


It's not a conspiracy theory when you have the receipts.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (bhRsz)

150 So protecting the government of Ukraine is vital to democracy but protecting the U.S border is not and Israel protecting itself from genocidal scum is evil.
Do I understand correctly?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 13, 2024 02:27 PM (zssUw)

We have chem/bio labs in Ukraine. It's entirely possible Covid was created there.

Crimes against humanity, committed by the government of the United States of America. It's the only reason for this insanity. The government wants to funnel more weapons in to that failed state, to hold off the Russians from getting to the physical evidence of our evil, which rivals the Nazzie German scientists.

That's all they care about. We know they did it, we just don't yet have the evidence, and it's apparently at this point located in Kiev.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (dGCAG)

151 "If your position is being cheered by one of the most corrupt countries on the face of this earth, it might be time to reconsider your position."

- Someone not benefitting from graft

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (KbCG3)

152 I'll accept more funding for Ukraine when the budget is balanced.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (GBKbO)

153 Yeah this playbook is pretty obvious - put together a shitty "bipartisan" border deal, that the House R's have to reject, then pass a "clean" foreign aid bill because, hey, you rejected the one with the border "deal" so quit yer cryin.

Business as usual.

Instead, what Johnson could do is say "hey, we told you this shit doesn't get funded until grandpa rapefinger closes the border. Once crossings are down to 2019 levels, then I'll schedule this bill for a vote". Don't even put it back on the Senate to come up with border legislation, it's not necessary. Put it on Biden to enforce the border laws if he wants the spice to continue to flow to Ukraine.

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (5C4od)

154 I'll accept more funding for Ukraine when the budget is balanced.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Deficits don't matter.

Posted by: Dick Cheney at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (yjAVs)

155 I'm really disappointed in John Kennedy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

I would like to hear explanations from those GOP yes voters.

We heard from Romney but I already knew why that slimeball voted for it.

Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 02:32 PM (MNhXM)

156 It's not a conspiracy theory when you have the receipts.

Democrats and the media are well into the "and it's good it's happening" part of that "conspiracy theory".

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (2ocoG)

157
I'm really disappointed in John Kennedy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


He joined with Mitch in opposing releasing video from January 6. Just a down home, aw shucks kind of guy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (63Dwl)

158 Broke Ass Motherfuckers Can Rot In Hell.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (JF/W5)

159 On the bright side, maybe Cornyn is going to retire. Otherwise, why would he vote yes?

Because he can. Cornyn's reelection is locked up tighter than Putin's if he wants it.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (sNc8Y)

160 There are times I wish I had a time machine and it could teleport.
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at February 13, 2024 02:16 PM (qZdIZ)

The one thing I've always thought about time machines - if there ever was one, there always would have been one.

Posted by: InZona at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (3m2hF)

161 Smell the Glove: "Romney saying that was the most important vote he ever cast is the most Romniest of Romney things ever"

Romney is the McConnell of McCains.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (aXxgO)

162 The longer this plays out the better the odds the Ukraine loses. I never thought that the goal of getting Russia out of Donbas, Crimea and other occupied areas was feasible with the size of the uke army. We didn't give them weapons which could reach into Russia and given the size differential Ukraine had to fight a much more asymmetric war. Now they're just about out of troops. Start looking for a new war neocons and leftist one worlders

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (DgSZ/)

163 globe, beggars the country with debt, and wipes out the real wages of honest workers?

Honest question.
Posted by: Huck Follywood


It's not an either or proposition. Both can be bad without qualification, but only one will result in the destruction of our Republic.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (IG4Id)

164 Mittens, if you're going for the bombastic speech, you gotta go with epaulets and hand waving. You also need testicle, but that's another story.

Oh, and Mittens? Ukraine has already lost the war. But you knew that, didn't you? Oh, wait, you're dumb enough not to realize it. My mistake.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (tT6L1)

165 "Those surveys are total nonsnense and just a way to get money from you as well as validate email addresses."

The survey emails - which don't ask for money, BTW - at least looked like an attempt to find out what his constituency valued.

If a politician is going to make an attempt to learn what the unconnected people want, there's no reason to not try to respond.

Probably not going to bother from now on, of course.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (ou9hh)

166 the future of the party is not going with this vote. That is something.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at

Aside from the fact it's far too late, it's very likely calculated theatre.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (mSUe2)

167 The one thing I've always thought about time machines - if there ever was one, there always would have been one.

Maybe there just hasn't always been one yet.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (l8gTz)

168 Romney continues to suck ass. He should have been expelled from the Party long ago.

Posted by: vic at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (A5THL)

169 I didn't know that. I was only there once, in January '93, I think. Some cute Mormon tour girl showed me around Temple Square when all the Christmas decorations were still up. We went inside the Tabernacle (where the Choir performs); she dropped a pin in the choir loft and you could actually hear it from the audience seats. Good memory.

Sorry to hear it's gone to crap.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (9yWhg)

I used to fly though SLC a lot and saw the changes happen with airport staff. Used to be cute blonde Mormon girls working the food court restaurants or gift shops or what have you. Then within 2-3 years, in the mid 2000s they were all gone replaced by recent arrivals from south of the border. And lotsa muzzie “refugees” as well.

Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (YofvK)

170 used to be cute, but is currently mid-collision with The Wall.
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So am I.

Posted by: Kelce at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (KFe8J)

171 "I would have accepted funding for Ukraine so long as America's national security was also funded."


You never will accept funding for Ukraine, then. The same people who want to keep the Kiev grift going also support open borders. You surely have to ask yourself now and then why that is.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (KSNKu)

172 Of course Susan Collins voted for this crap. My state is such a let down at every level.

Posted by: Defenestratus at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (yzlQj)

173 159 On the bright side, maybe Cornyn is going to retire. Otherwise, why would he vote yes?

Because he can. Cornyn's reelection is locked up tighter than Putin's if he wants it.
Posted by: Oddbob at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (sNc8Y)

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When was the last time a state-wide elected Republican incumbent lost his or her primary?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

174 Who is worse, Vladimir Putin, who throws people from rooftops and invades Ukraine, or Mitt Romney, who undermines elected Presidents, sends our sons into pointless wars all over the globe, beggars the country with debt, and wipes out the real wages of honest workers?

Honest question.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (RHkDp)

At this point I'm gonna assume the people thrown from rooftops had it coming.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (dGCAG)

175 In Texas, specifically.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

176 Re Biden's cognitive test--he should also have to take a continence test...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (XMwZJ)

177 145 The best thing about the Super Bowl is being freed of seeing Tay Tay while watching football.

She used to be cute, but is currently mid-collision with The Wall.
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She wants to be the next Joni Mitchell. What she is is an over toasted pop tart whose internal goo tastes like skank.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (Hpgos)

178 The smells like a bust out scheme.

Posted by: mr tmz at February 13, 2024 02:35 PM (rJ48h)

179 Romney is the McConnell of McCains.

So, in the spirit of "Eyepatch McCain", he's "Magic Underwear McCain"?

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:35 PM (2ocoG)

180 "If your position is being cheered by one of the most corrupt countries on the face of this earth, it might be time to reconsider your position."

Does he mean the US and the funding of Ukraine?!!

Posted by: InZona at February 13, 2024 02:35 PM (3m2hF)

181 In Texas, specifically.

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Cruz basically beat a well-funded semi-popular incumbent who had never really been challenged.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:36 PM (sX1BW)

182 When was the last time a state-wide elected Republican incumbent lost his or her primary?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)


*sighs*

Is it never?

Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:36 PM (bhRsz)

183 Mitt Romney is lower than Plankton shit.

Posted by: Squiward at February 13, 2024 02:36 PM (Zz86T)

184 Why is it that no matter what you order from an American Chinese restaurant, from egg drop soup to fiery kung pao chicken, the texture is out of this world? More often than not, it’s thanks to one simple pantry staple: cornstarch.

Pay Attention People!

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 02:36 PM (Hpgos)

185 "If your position is being cheered by one of the most corrupt countries on the face of this earth, it might be time to reconsider your position."




Ukraine is a lot higher on that list than Russia is. Ukraine is number 3 or 4, only trailing a few African dictatorships.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:36 PM (lTGtQ)

186 Honest question.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 13, 2024 02:31 PM (RHkDp)

They are both exactly the kind of bastard that a liberal republic is intended to keep from amassing power.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2024 02:36 PM (9UlRk)

187 I thought I read it few weeks ago the administration is preparing to drop Ukraine. Did I not read that?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (zssUw)

188 Tay Tay is Meh Meh. Really, I've seen hotter chics at Watmart.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (XMwZJ)

189 167 The one thing I've always thought about time machines - if there ever was one, there always would have been one.

Maybe there just hasn't always been one yet.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (l8gTz)

I wish!

Posted by: Slartibartfast at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (T+Iwg)

190 164 Mittens, if you're going for the bombastic speech, you gotta go with epaulets and hand waving. You also need testicle, but that's another story.

Oh, and Mittens? Ukraine has already lost the war. But you knew that, didn't you? Oh, wait, you're dumb enough not to realize it. My mistake.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (tT6L1)


None of this is about winning or losing a war. It is about pocketing the grift. AI eventually will be used to make Americans, who are profoundly stupid and gullible, believe We Are Fighting Them Over There So We Don't Have To Fight Them Over There. Cornyn and one or two may lose their next primary but that's about it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (KSNKu)

191 Aside from the fact it's far too late, it's very likely calculated theatre.

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I don't think so. There is a shift in the GOP between the old guard and new guard. Probably not as big or quick as we would all want, but it is happening.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (sX1BW)

192 TheJamesMadison: "I'll accept more funding for Ukraine when the budget is balanced."

The Sun will envelop the Earth before that happens. I know you know that. Just putting out the perspective.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (aXxgO)

193 It's a mercenary army now. Americans, polish, Georgians. That is where some of the money goes...
Posted by: Mitt Rombley at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM (KFe8J)

Don't forget the actual nazzies. There are still actual nazzies running around.

That's where our money goes too.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (dGCAG)

194 This bikini brunette fully supports independent bills, supports rejecting this one, and finds it telling that the Senate chose to hurl $100 billion at Ukraine rather than deign to address an ongoing domestic catastrophe:
http://tiny.cc/n58uwz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (yjAVs)

195 181 In Texas, specifically.

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Cruz basically beat a well-funded semi-popular incumbent who had never really been challenged.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:36 PM (sX1BW)

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He was Lieutenant Governor, not the incumbent senator.

Still, he was statewide elected in his position before that primary, but it's still not quite the same thing. It's pretty close, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

196 Where's the US on the list of most countries?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (XMwZJ)

197 Ukraine is a lot higher on that list than Russia is. Ukraine is number 3 or 4, only trailing a few African dictatorships.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:36 PM (lTGtQ)


Russia still is quite corrupt, almost to the same level as the United States is now.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (KSNKu)

198 My corrupt filthy government tells me I should abhor Putin....so I don't. Putin knows full well the money laundering going thru Ukraine and he's attempting to grab it. Don't blame him and wish him all the success in yanking it out from under these scum.

Posted by: Son of Dad at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (8JB5s)

199 Romney: Now, I know that the shock jocks and online instigators have riled up many in the far reaches of my party. But if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position.

At least Putin (regardless if he's wrong or right) is protecting his country's border you piece of dogshit.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (b7Y2i)

200 i can't wait to see what happens when zelinskyyy finally says we can't win, we need to negotiate before it's too late. who will demand that zelinskiiyi be removed from office?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (B1FKF)

201 Salt Lake City is a liberal, leftist cesspool, overrun with homeless and rapidly growing gang violence.

The only saving grace of the city is that the Church of Jesus Christ has been putting in billions of it's own money to maintain the downtown area so the whole thing doesn't go to pot.. and the Democrat mayors resent the whole thing. First thing the current mayor did on getting sworn in was go to the Church and demand they change their doctrine on LGBT. The Church said "no."

Other than the Church being right there, Salt Lake is San Fran in the rockies.

Posted by: SimoHayha at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (AxRGS)

202 When was the last time a state-wide elected Republican incumbent lost his or her primary?
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Didn't Murkowski lose the primary, but "won" the general on a write-in campaign? (Totally on the up-and-up, of course)

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (1eY81)

203 The one thing I've always thought about time machines - if there ever was one, there always would have been one.

Maybe there just hasn't always been one yet.
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Time travel was invented on Earth. That is why the planet is off limits to extraterrestrials. They have time machines but if they messed up our timeline, we might not invent it and that screws them up. So they have a strict quarantine in place.

Posted by: Shoosh, it's a secret at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (KFe8J)

204 Where are all the Code Pink bimbos? Why have they not denounced the Ukraine war?

Probably out having abortions.

Posted by: Czech Chick at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (I6NNh)

205 Tay Tay was hawt 7-10 years ago. Something happened. She got weird looking. Could be the wall? Bad makeup? Hair? I dunno. No bueno.

Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (YofvK)

206 At this point I'm gonna assume the people thrown from rooftops had it coming.
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It's a pretty good bet that they were working with the CIA, so yes.

Posted by: Methos at February 13, 2024 02:39 PM (Dnobf)

207 "If your position is being cheered by one of the most corrupt countries on the face of this earth, it might be time to reconsider your position."
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Does he mean the US and the funding of Ukraine?!!
Posted by: InZona at February 13, 2024 02:35 PM (3m2hF)

What are there, 193 countries now? On a list of the most corrupt, Russia is somewhere among the 193.

But yeah, the U.S. of A. is #1.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:39 PM (dGCAG)

208 the future of the party is not going with this vote. That is something.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at


Except for 2 things - 1) the GOPe always lets some "conservatives" vote against this type of thing to keep hope alive amongst the conservative base and 2) the younger (and/or newer) Senators will be co-opted into the GOPe as they always are.

So, 20 years from now someone will be saying the same thing after some vote but the Senators who voted against it today will be voting for it then and a new crop will be voting against to keep hope alive.

Yes, I'm very cynical. But also correct.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 13, 2024 02:39 PM (ky+MF)

209 182 *sighs*

Is it never?
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:36 PM (bhRsz)

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It is extremely rare, for sure. As whig has pointed out more than once, the GOP manipulates the primary process so that the anti-incumbent is at massive disadvantages up to and including funding and public perception. "I can't vote for the challenger because he's crazy," sort of thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:39 PM (GBKbO)

210 Each aid package recipient should have had a stand alone bill. Giving the benefit of the doubt to a few Senators they could have believed it was more important to provide aid to Israel and Taiwan as a national security issue than it was to vote against throwing away money in Ukraine.

Very shaky benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 02:39 PM (MNhXM)

211 When was the last time a state-wide elected Republican incumbent lost his or her primary?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)


*sighs*

Is it never?
Posted by: Dr. T

Lisa Murkowski did, but she won the election anyway. As Ian Malcolm said, "life....finds a way".

Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 13, 2024 02:39 PM (JCZqz)

212 Romney: Now, I know that the shock jocks and online instigators have riled up many in the far reaches of my party. But if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position.
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What a lame-ass argument.

Be better, Mitt.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:12 PM (yjAVs)

Putin could care less about us funneling money to Ukraine. The damage we could do has already been done and that equipment is wrecked or wearing out. This money isn't going to Ukraine but to the defense industry and isn't going to add one shell to their stocks.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2024 02:39 PM (eoQWY)

213 http://tiny.cc/n58uwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


Wow.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 02:39 PM (9yWhg)

214 Ted Cruz beat the party choice in Texas.

And they have never forgiven him.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:39 PM (lTGtQ)

215
:: Buffs nails on shirt ::

At least my Republican Senators didn't vote in favor.

Probably because I don't have any Republican Senators in my state.

I got 'the lump' and some long ago recognizable name in PA politics that'll probably die in orifice.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (nIvob)

216 192 TheJamesMadison: "I'll accept more funding for Ukraine when the budget is balanced."

The Sun will envelop the Earth before that happens. I know you know that. Just putting out the perspective.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at February 13, 2024 02:37 PM (aXxgO)

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To be fair, what I will accept and what will happen are very often at different poles of the possibility.

A lot happens in government that I don't accept.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

217 I sent my senatraitors a sternly worded email. You'da thunk Idaho would at least put on the appearance of being conservative.

Posted by: S.Lynn at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (9/PQM)

218 Interesting. So it’s boomers still stuck a Cold War “Russia bad” mentality making this shit happen.
Posted by: Montec

Yes. They are still stuck in the 80's and 90's is part of it. The other part of it is defense stocks and propping up Boeing, etc. from their repeated failures.

The Senate has been addicted to these giant supplemental bills, Omnibusses, and no regular order on the budget ever since leaderships stripped committee chairs of running the show in the House and Senate.

Posted by: The Who at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (9FrDg)

219 remember when reagan was president and the dems told us that his hostile attitude was going to cause a nucular war? remember "the day after" on the tv?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (B1FKF)

220 She wants to be the next Joni Mitchell. What she is is an over toasted pop tart whose internal goo tastes like skank.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 02:34 PM (Hpgos)

She's like 40 years old and her parents still run her life and baby sit her where ever she goes.

Like a split tail Michael Jackson.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (JF/W5)

221 So, it's a Taylor Swift thread now?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

222 @202 yup with Mitch undermining the Republican to help Murkowski

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (DgSZ/)

223 Think I heard someone on radio say that of the 26 R's voting against, 17 were relatively young (55 or less?) with 15 of those having been elected in 2020.

So, the MAGA movement is gaining -- only it's likely too little and way too late.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (BgMsz)

224 If this was Pelosi's bill to kill, it would never see the light of day, and of course nothing would be said on the teevees.

But this is "bipartisan," and it's a NO to Putin, and a huge YES to those fucks in Ukraine.

This is the hill on which to die, Johnson.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (KiBMU)

225 remember when reagan was president and the dems told us that his hostile attitude was going to cause a nucular war? remember "the day after" on the tv?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (B1FKF)
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Yeah, but that was before the Russians committed the unforgivable sin of destroying the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:41 PM (yjAVs)

226 GOPe squish Bob Bennett in Utah was tossed on his keister and replaced with Mike Lee about a decade ago.

Shook the entire GOP establishment, and they have been furious about it ever since. Hence they keep trying to push the McMullins and gut Republican party power in Utah, because the base is having none of it. Romney snookered Utah because he was a hometown hero for saving the olympics.

He isn't running for reelection because he wouldn't win.

Posted by: SimoHayha at February 13, 2024 02:41 PM (AxRGS)

227 135 I'm really disappointed in John Kennedy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

Same here. Would like to hear his rational.

Posted by: javems at February 13, 2024 02:41 PM (8I4hW)

228 >>Where's the US on the list of most countries?


We are, in fact, the Moistest Country.

Oh, wait...that wasn't what you were asking at all.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2024 02:41 PM (nSDU/)

229 Still, he was statewide elected in his position before that primary, but it's still not quite the same thing. It's pretty close, though.

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It's the best I could come up with and a good model. Cruz may not be everyone's favorite, but he is lightyears better than Dewhurst or Cornyn. He was a long shot. Would be nice to rid ourselves of Cornyn, but we are stuck for awhile.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:41 PM (sX1BW)

230 When was the last time a state-wide elected Republican incumbent lost his or her primary?

Probably when Cruz beat David Dewhurst. Or when Paxton beat George P. Bush. Both Dewhurst and Bush were (are) darlings of the TX GOPe.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 13, 2024 02:41 PM (sNc8Y)

231 192 TheJamesMadison: "I'll accept more funding for Ukraine when the budget is balanced."

The Sun will envelop the Earth before that happens. I know you know that. Just putting out the perspective.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel

Oh , it will balance. The same as any other person that has maxxed out credit cards and can no longer even pay interest on their debts. Drastic reversion to inputs must equal outputs.

Right now they are trying default by inflation but that only works if every other country trading with the US doesn't play that game.

Posted by: The Who at February 13, 2024 02:42 PM (9FrDg)

232 13 Did the bill still have that poison-pill Trump impeachment bomb in it?
Posted by: MartynW at February 13, 2024 02:14 PM (sHP7b)

What's amazing to me is that this is the first bill in my memory that threatens impeachment to any future president that tries to eliminate it. You'd think that Dems would have done that to any president that tried to eliminate Obamacare. Or Medicare. Or Social Security. You know - things that they say Americans have an interest in. But no - the first bill that threatens an American president is one that threatens FUNDING A FOREIGN COUNTRY.

The Democrats and the GOPe (but I repeat myself) don't really care about America at all.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 13, 2024 02:42 PM (4M29A)

233 Tay was hawt 7-10 years ago. Something happened. She got weird looking. Could be the wall? Bad makeup? Hair? I dunno. No bueno.
10 different men since then. 🐓 🎠

Posted by: Rode hard and put away wet at February 13, 2024 02:42 PM (KFe8J)

234 227 135 I'm really disappointed in John Kennedy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

Same here. Would like to hear his rational.
Posted by: javems at February 13, 2024 02:41 PM (8I4hW)

He's a dickhead who's good at giving a soundbite?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 13, 2024 02:42 PM (KbCG3)

235 "If your position is being cheered by one of the most corrupt countries on the face of this earth, it might be time to reconsider your position."

Seems like a variant of the logical fallacy appeal to authority (kind of an appeal to anti-authority).

Posted by: Lloyd Austin's Swollen Prostate at February 13, 2024 02:42 PM (UMHqX)

236 >>>45 Shock jock? Bro 2002 called and wants its slang back.

bababooey to y'all!

Posted by: Guy from 2002 when Stern was still believed to be funny at February 13, 2024 02:42 PM (KRtlO)

237 Other than the Church being right there, Salt Lake is San Fran in the rockies.
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Mormons seem to be happy people. How do they explain Harry Reid and Romney?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 02:42 PM (Hpgos)

238 >> She wants to be the next Joni Mitchell.


She'll need to spend another 5 years Woodshedding her guitar skillz.

Joni can play.

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2024 02:42 PM (nSDU/)

239 Can’t beat the Communist Party with the Socialist Party.

Posted by: JackWayne at February 13, 2024 02:42 PM (zzF4A)

240 Romney Wadsworth > Mitt Romney

Posted by: 7man at February 13, 2024 02:43 PM (Gfz8S)

241 But re-reading the question, maybe neither of those are the examples you actually asked for.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 13, 2024 02:43 PM (sNc8Y)

242 Romney Wadsworth > Mitt Romney
Posted by: 7man at February 13, 2024 02:43 PM (Gfz8S)
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Romney Wordsworth knew the score.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 13, 2024 02:43 PM (yjAVs)

243 Every. Incumbent. Out.

And close the border.
And deport every illegal alien immediately.
And eliminate EBT cards.

And give me some popcorn.

You may say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 13, 2024 02:43 PM (ufFY8)

244 So, it's a Taylor Swift thread now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

The AoSHQ Style Guide has been updated to indicate "All threads, if they last long enough, will become gun threads, movie threads, Trump threads, or Tay Tay threads, or all of the above."

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:43 PM (dGCAG)

245 226 GOPe squish Bob Bennett in Utah was tossed on his keister and replaced with Mike Lee about a decade ago.

Shook the entire GOP establishment, and they have been furious about it ever since. Hence they keep trying to push the McMullins and gut Republican party power in Utah, because the base is having none of it. Romney snookered Utah because he was a hometown hero for saving the olympics.

He isn't running for reelection because he wouldn't win.
Posted by: SimoHayha at February 13, 2024 02:41 PM (AxRGS)

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I had to look up their stupid convention rules. Bennett lost the convention votes until the third round when he was disqualified leaving Mike Lee and Tim Bridgewater to face off in the primary.

Lee won the primary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:43 PM (GBKbO)

246 Intestinal worm Adam Kinzinger called Tucker Carlson a traitor for interviwing Putin.
Did I miss something about the U.S. and Russia being at war?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 13, 2024 02:43 PM (zssUw)

247 57 if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position.

When an ex-KGB dictator who has no qualms about having enemies hit seems like more of a sold guy than you maybe you should reconsider your behaviors..and we have a senator named Crapo? If his first name is Fuller the writers just HAVE to do better

Posted by: Azjaeger at February 13, 2024 02:44 PM (/wuUy)

248 OK, I know I’m an idiot and thing just don’t work this way any more but why not amend the bill to include HB2 and send it back or go to conference committee? I’m assuming it’s because the majority is too small?

Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at February 13, 2024 02:44 PM (Dceoy)

249 So, it's a Taylor Swift thread now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:40 PM (GBKbO)


There's no escaping her. Especially when you get one of her songs stuck in your head and it starts to degrade your hihger-odrer bbrain ffuntcionsssss.......

Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:44 PM (bhRsz)

250 Excellent
* tents fingers *

@internetcases 22m
AI generated fake cases in court brief gets party fined $10K. Kruse v. Karlen, --- S.W.3d ---, 2024 WL 559497 (Mo. Ct. App. February 13, 2024). Stay tuned for blog post about this, coming tomorrow.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2024 02:44 PM (IG4Id)

251 re 211: didn't that happen to javits here in nys like in 1970?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 13, 2024 02:44 PM (B1FKF)

252 @24

>>I heard that the Senate bill also includes a provision that if funding is cut in 2025 or 2026 against the advice of "career officials" it becomes a matter for which a president could be impeached. ie, the plan is to tie the hands of a second term Trump.

The bill establishes two separate, ostensible 13B dollar slush funds for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan for which money can be extracted and dispersed and laundered through the MIC/NGO money trough.

It also establishes slush funds for munitions and armament replenishment that in turn can be sent to conflict areas.

It also establishes aid and support slush funds.

Most run out in Dec of 24, the ones for Ukraine run out in Sept of 25, which mean the Uniparty/Deep State want us to still be engaged in a proxy war with Russia in the near and long term.

These expenditures are mandatory and give little discretion in their wording.

Which would make Trumps plans to end the war problematic as the bill mandates arms transfers to Ukraine and war assistance, well past Trumps desire to end the war on day one of his administration.

Or alternatively....

The Senate GOP, in the main, are enemies of this country and need to be broomed.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2024 02:45 PM (XV/Pl)

253 Solid guy not sold

Posted by: Azjaeger at February 13, 2024 02:45 PM (/wuUy)

254 I want to see what Johnson does before I start spitting and moaning. This could be nothing but election year posturing by the senate. (And also a way for Glitch and gang to kill repub chances of gaining seats in congress like 2022.)

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 13, 2024 02:45 PM (BdMk6)

255 162 The longer this plays out the better the odds the Ukraine loses. I never thought that the goal of getting Russia out of Donbas, Crimea and other occupied areas was feasible with the size of the uke army. We didn't give them weapons which could reach into Russia and given the size differential Ukraine had to fight a much more asymmetric war. Now they're just about out of troops. Start looking for a new war neocons and leftist one worlders

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 13, 2024 02:33 PM (DgSZ/)


I say this to the American Congress and People. Glorious Ukrainian Army is preparing for the new Summer Counter-Offensive. It WILL drive the Russian invaders off all Ukrainian soil! If you provide us the tools for this noble patriotic task! Along with $25 Billion in bearer bonds, sent to me at the Presidential Palace. Just in case I need to move my counter-offensive forward HQ to Geneva or Monaco.

Posted by: Z-Man at February 13, 2024 02:45 PM (5fDan)

256 Has Utah ever elected a non-Mormon to public office?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 02:45 PM (9yWhg)

257 Mormons seem to be happy people. How do they explain Harry Reid and Romney?

Reid and Romney are Mormons in the same way Biden and Pelosi are Catholic: they'll use it as body armor on occasion and that's the entirety of their connection with it.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:46 PM (2ocoG)

258 Damn it...ya forget the most important word in the sentence and ya never hear the end of it...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 13, 2024 02:46 PM (XMwZJ)

259 I think we're well into the "Looting the Empire" stage of the Fall of the Empire. It's that stage were nobody gives a shit anymore, nobody thinks the empire will survive, so the powerful and connected just steal everything that isn't locked down . . . and then get crow bars to remove the shit that is locked down.

Slight disagree: the aristocracy thinks they can genocide the middle class and then loot indefinitely because hamburgers come from McDonalds and electricity comes from outlets. They haven't been sending their best for well over 100 years.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:18 PM (2ocoG)

Yeah, its a bit earlier in the process. Everyone sees problems but is acting in the old ways because their are no other ways. Setbacks are surely going to be addressed once a few small issues are addressed.

In the Roman Empire we are about at the point where the leaders put Stilicho to death and killed the families of the German troops that made up most of the army. The troops so affected joined Alaric and his "revolt" to get better deals for his men became suddenly unopposed except for walled cities.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2024 02:46 PM (eoQWY)

260 Cornstarch is the foundation of a Chinese cooking method known as velveting, which refers to marinating protein in cornstarch and, in the fullest sense of the technique, passing it briefly through hot oil or water before incorporating into stir-fries, soups, and stews. In food, as in other parts of life, language is a form of power, and velveting—an elegant skill wielded without much fanfare by home cooks and take-out spots alike—deserves as much recognition as a French roux.

This is power!

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 02:46 PM (Hpgos)

261 Tay was hawt 7-10 years ago. Something happened. She got weird looking

She's always seemed plastic to me, like she was made from a mold in some L.A. people factory. If I ordered one of those high end sex dolls, and it showed up and looked like her, I guess I'd marvel at how lifelike it was. But as an actual, real, living, breathing person, she just looks fake, artificial. She's the nutrasweet of pussy.

Posted by: Is she still under warranty? at February 13, 2024 02:46 PM (UMHqX)

262 I want to see what Johnson does before I start spitting and moaning.

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Guess someone hasn't started smoking and drinking yet.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:46 PM (sX1BW)

263 There's no escaping her. Especially when you get one of her songs stuck in your head and it starts to degrade your hihger-odrer bbrain ffuntcionsssss.......
Posted by: Dr. T at February 13, 2024 02:44 PM (bhRsz)

Somebody played me a bit of her music a couple months ago, because I said I don't think I'd ever heard anything from her.

My response: Oh, I think the voice sounds familiar, but I still don't recognize the song. After a few tries, he gave up.

I couldn't tell you anything about anything I heard, I don't remember it, because nothing was memorable.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:47 PM (dGCAG)

264 "I'll accept more funding for Ukraine when the budget is balanced."

You're going to force the CIA to hold a bake sale.

Posted by: t-bird at February 13, 2024 02:47 PM (3l0s/)

265 Intestinal worm Adam Kinzinger called Tucker Carlson a traitor for interviwing Putin.
Did I miss something about the U.S. and Russia being at war?


You know how Ilhan Omar allegedly is a US citizen but actually is working entirely for Somalia by her own admission? Kinzinger is that for Ukraine.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:47 PM (2ocoG)

266 So, 20 years from now someone will be saying the same thing after some vote but the Senators who voted against it today will be voting for it then and a new crop will be voting against to keep hope alive.

Yes, I'm very cynical. But also correct.
Posted by: Meanwhile . . . .

Our current regime does not have twenty years. Previously the over under was about ten years from now (the normal length of span for fiat money in history is about 75 years or so) but if the Biden junta wins in 24---I would accelerate the clock for regime meltdown. When government spending has to be cut down to government revenue because no one lends to the government, then systematic collapse of the system. Loss of reserve currency status will certainly occur before then adding to the problems of inflation (nothing made here anymore), unemployment, and impoverishment of the populace.

Posted by: The Who at February 13, 2024 02:47 PM (9FrDg)

267 Tay Tay was hawt 7-10 years ago. Something happened. She got weird looking. Could be the wall? Bad makeup? Hair? I dunno. No bueno.
Posted by: Montec

She's 34 now...most women look better at 24-27 than at 34. Modern wizardry like better skin care, diet, surgery, makeup, etc can slow the appearance of aging, but biologically, fertility drops rapidly around 40 for women, as does general sexual attractiveness. Almost like there's some kind of biological component.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 13, 2024 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

268 If I remember right, Joni Mitchell doing the nasty with David Crosby and caught The Clap then gave it all the other dudes that were banging her back in the day.

David Crosby. She did the nasty with David Crosby.

Ewww.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 13, 2024 02:47 PM (JF/W5)

269 . In food, as in other parts of life, language is a form of power, and velveting—an elegant skill wielded without much fanfare by home cooks and take-out spots alike—deserves as much recognition as a French roux.

This is power!
Posted by: Pudinhead


Potato starch is better; it dissolves more quickly and results in a clearer sauce.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2024 02:48 PM (IG4Id)

270 Tay Tay is the uncanny valley of pussy.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 13, 2024 02:48 PM (XMwZJ)

271 Hey Mitt, Fuck you. Without looking, I knew our Jr Senator from NC was in on it too.

Posted by: TC at February 13, 2024 02:48 PM (FjlUt)

272 I think we're well into the "Looting the Empire" stage of the Fall of the Empire. It's that stage were nobody gives a shit anymore, nobody thinks the empire will survive, so the powerful and connected just steal everything that isn't locked down .

Posted by: Oldcat



I can't disagree, but, these idiots don't seem to understand that the end result will not look like the world they know, and having a pile of money but no food or electricity isn't the best way to live.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:49 PM (lTGtQ)

273 drops rapidly around 40 for women, as does general sexual attractiveness.

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Elizabeth Hurley being the exception that proves the rule.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:49 PM (sX1BW)

274 267 Kathy Ireland is 60 and still looks great. Still a 1.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 02:49 PM (9yWhg)

275 Intestinal worm Adam Kinzinger called Tucker Carlson a traitor for interviwing Putin.
Did I miss something about the U.S. and Russia being at war?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 13, 2024 02:43 PM (zssUw)

No, what you missed is that it's now illegal to disagree with the official narrative of the United States of America.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:49 PM (dGCAG)

276 Which would make Trumps plans to end the war problematic as the bill mandates arms transfers to Ukraine and war assistance, well past Trumps desire to end the war on day one of his administration.

Or alternatively....

The Senate GOP, in the main, are enemies of this country and need to be broomed.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2024 02:45 PM (XV/Pl)

In any realistic settlement, the current govt of Ukraine, bound to the Nazis from west Ukraine is going to go. After that US money could go to what's left under Russian supervision. That would drive the Neocons nuts.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2024 02:50 PM (eoQWY)

277 Btw, that line about Mitt's vote being the most important one he's taken as a U.S. Senator.

Wasn't long ago that this douche and his fellow douches in the Senate were voting on impeachment.

I guess Trump isn't the existential threat to democracy we're being led to believe...

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 13, 2024 02:50 PM (KbCG3)

278 if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position.
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Logical fallacy, dude. Be better.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 13, 2024 02:51 PM (0gvpA)

279 I doubt that during the coming burning times these people will continue to do what they do. The collapse of government will likely result in their retreat to their gated communities with private security to "wait it out." Or their bunkers. Whatever.

The point is; they honestly don't think there will be consequences for themselves and thus, do not give a single fuck about you.

They do the things they do to enrich themselves. Period.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 13, 2024 02:51 PM (Q4IgG)

280 46 I think all of those Senators are from nominally "red" states, except maybe AK?

Utah may have the widest ideological swing in the country between their two senators (Mike Lee and Romney).
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:20 PM (2ocoG)

Ummm, I think that would be Kentucky with Mitch and Rand.

And today is another day to thank God for Mike Johnson and Matt Gaetz, the 2 reasons this hasn't already passed and been signed.

Posted by: Nova Local at February 13, 2024 02:51 PM (exHjb)

281 drops rapidly around 40 for women, as does general sexual attractiveness.

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Elizabeth Hurley being the exception that proves the rule.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:49 PM (sX1BW)

My ex just turned 40. I sent her a text, saying I bet she doesn't look a day over 39.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:51 PM (dGCAG)

282 I couldn't tell you anything about anything I heard, I don't remember it, because nothing was memorable.

She has the benefit of writing her own songs by herself, as opposed to nearly everyone else currently in pop where it's not uncommon to have two dozen writing credits on a single song (and in the case of Beyonce you're called racist if you point that out).

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:51 PM (2ocoG)

283 277 I guess Trump isn't the existential threat to democracy we're being led to believe...
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 13, 2024 02:50 PM (KbCG3)

=======

If Trump is the existential threat Democrats hold him up as, they'd be outright assassinating Biden to get him out of the way in order to get a candidate who doesn't have sub-40 approval ratings.

Instead, they're mostly covering for him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 13, 2024 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

284 drops rapidly around 40 for women, as does general sexual attractiveness.

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Elizabeth Hurley being the exception that proves the rule.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:49 PM (sX1BW)
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Sela Ward FTW.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 13, 2024 02:52 PM (0gvpA)

285 I'm going to relish the spectacle that is the congress impeaching Trump for ending a war.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:52 PM (lTGtQ)

286 278 if your position is being cheered by Vladimir Putin, it's time to reconsider your position.
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Logical fallacy, dude. Be better.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 13, 2024 02:51 PM (0gvpA)

Mitt's position is being cheered by every democrat in the senate.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 13, 2024 02:52 PM (KbCG3)

287 I think Abbott needs to start busing illegals to Salt Lake City. Drop them off right in Temple Square.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 02:23 PM (9yWhg)


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Send them to Pierre South Dakota or maybe Rapid City.

Posted by: Beavis at February 13, 2024 02:53 PM (nvKZ7)

288 And today is another day to thank God for Mike Johnson and Matt Gaetz, the 2 reasons this hasn't already passed and been signed.
Posted by: Nova Local
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Bbbbbut, they literally had no plan man....../sarc toward those pushing that idiotic point.

Posted by: The Who at February 13, 2024 02:53 PM (9FrDg)

289 I doubt that during the coming burning times these people will continue to do what they do. The collapse of government will likely result in their retreat to their gated communities with private security to "wait it out." Or their bunkers. Whatever.



Posted by: Martini Farmer



Their mistake is thinking they can wait it out. The dark ages lasted centuries last time.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:53 PM (lTGtQ)

290 "Visa, Mastercard, and American Express are implementing a special merchant code to track gun and gun-related purchases in California.

CBS News reported that the new merchant code will be used to comply with a “California law that will allow banks to potentially track suspicious gun purchases and report them to law enforcement....Visa caved to pressure from gun control groups and New York Democrats, agreeing to flag gun and ammo purchases via a merchant code. The Associated Press observed that Mastercard and other major credit card companies also agreed to flag gun sales...."

Posted by: runner at February 13, 2024 02:53 PM (V13WU)

291 Didja see this?

Christian high school holds weekly Taylor Swift-themed Bible study, coming awfully close to fulfilling another Babylon Bee prophecy

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My favorite Bible verse is, "Man does not live by Taylor Swift alone."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 13, 2024 02:54 PM (FVME7)

292 She has the benefit of writing her own songs by herself, as opposed to nearly everyone else currently in pop where it's not uncommon to have two dozen writing credits on a single song (and in the case of Beyonce you're called racist if you point that out).
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:51 PM (2ocoG)

It's been one of my general principles, if a musical artist didn't write their own music, I'm not going to be interested to hear them sing or play.

Now, people can do covers, and some of them are fine, but the bulk your output has to be your own.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:54 PM (dGCAG)

293 268 If I remember right, Joni Mitchell doing the nasty with David Crosby and caught The Clap then gave it all the other dudes that were banging her back in the day.

David Crosby. She did the nasty with David Crosby.

Ewww.
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I think she was banging Graham Nash. Yeah, she liked to fuck. Nothing wrong with that. She was a remarkably talented songwriter and performer. Her stuff holds up.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 02:54 PM (Xr4QU)

294 She's 34 now...most women look better at 24-27 than at 34. Modern wizardry like better skin care, diet, surgery, makeup, etc can slow the appearance of aging, but biologically, fertility drops rapidly around 40 for women, as does general sexual attractiveness. Almost like there's some kind of biological component.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 13, 2024 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

Fertility starts dropping at 30 and 35 is getting dicey. Not a coincidence women start feeling that baby fever at around 30 if they aren't married.

The problem modern women have is that it isn't attractive for the most well preserved 35 year old to act 25 or 15. Ditto for 45, 55 and so on. You do much better to dress like a woman of your age.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2024 02:55 PM (eoQWY)

295 We should make the Unipary own this bill - Dem Senators should also be spotlighted to America for voting for other countries' borders and not our own.

As someone said, 83% of America (now I think this is made up, but like the Dems say "made up but accurate"), hate this bill, so have DEMS own it in states we have Rs not signing this or trying to flip seats running in 2024...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 13, 2024 02:55 PM (exHjb)

296 I'm going to relish the spectacle that is the congress impeaching Trump for ending a war.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:52 PM (lTGtQ)

Several wars.

Ukraine. Gaza. Pakistan is gonna get sporty soon. Some Balkan country will start trying to get in a scrap probably. Et cetera. There's a lot of year left.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2024 02:55 PM (9UlRk)

297 Tay Tay was hawt 7-10 years ago. Something happened. She got weird looking. Could be the wall? Bad makeup? Hair? I dunno. No bueno.
Posted by: Montec at February 13, 2024 02:38 PM (YofvK)

None of those. Try 10 years older.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 13, 2024 02:56 PM (BdMk6)

298 It's been one of my general principles, if a musical artist didn't write their own music, I'm not going to be interested to hear them sing or play.

Now, people can do covers, and some of them are fine, but the bulk your output has to be your own.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:54 PM (dGCAG)

Well, I never!

Posted by: Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Ella Fitzgerald, etc. etc. etc. at February 13, 2024 02:56 PM (4M29A)

299 It just dawned on me why I can't remember anyone running against Cornyn but everybody and their dog (looking at you Beto) runs against Cruz. Cornyn is a reliable D vote. Allows cover for the GOPe on certain votes. It's all a racket. Stinks that at 29 I'm just figuring this out.

Posted by: Usedtocould at February 13, 2024 02:56 PM (LRa30)

300 Now, people can do covers, and some of them are fine, but the bulk your output has to be your own.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:54 PM (dGCAG

What about George strait?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2024 02:56 PM (9UlRk)

301 279 I doubt that during the coming burning times these people will continue to do what they do. The collapse of government will likely result in their retreat to their gated communities with private security to "wait it out." Or their bunkers. Whatever.

The point is; they honestly don't think there will be consequences for themselves and thus, do not give a single fuck about you.

They do the things they do to enrich themselves. Period.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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You gotta pay the security guards or they end up owning you and as things get worse, they get more expensive. Stupid folks--there are all kinds of ruins of Roman villas that the fall of the Roman Empire doomed. Any bunker is prone to flooding from above if you don't control the patch above it. And so on.

Hidey holes work for brief disruptions--not prolonged ones.

Posted by: The Who at February 13, 2024 02:56 PM (9FrDg)

302 Bid to censure Romney for Trump impeachment votes fails - May 1, 2021


Mitt's got the Donny and Marie vote locked down.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2024 02:56 PM (eYF7X)

303 Directly across the street from my son's home a woman lived with her teenage son, who were Mormon. When she sold the house on moving day a parade of cars came and parked along all of the curbs covering about 4 blocks. They were there to help her move and made very short work of it. I said to my son that he should become a Mormon, see how much help you could get? He said, yeah but he would have to return all of those favors.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (7YG60)

304 Republicans in the House should amend the Senate‘’s bill to include all of the text of HR 2, pass it, then send it to committee for reconciliation

Posted by: Reno-Dave at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (Xc2s6)

305 What about George strait?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 13, 2024 02:56 PM (9UlRk)

Country? I don't do country.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (dGCAG)

306 Either a big payoff or blackmail as described here recently.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (mVcBl)

307 It's been one of my general principles, if a musical artist didn't write their own music, I'm not going to be interested to hear them sing or play.

There are exceptions that prove the rule (Glen Campbell, with all his good stuff written by Jimmy Webb, and of course Elton John and Bernie Taupin) but that's definitely a rule.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (2ocoG)

308 Nancy Pelosi Claims Joe Biden Is “Very Sharp” Mentally

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Well, I'm reassured.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (FVME7)

309 More Talented and Prettier than Taylor Swift:

Chitlins Con Carne : Kenny Burrel (cover)

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=OnA0nk33BJk

Posted by: garrett at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (nSDU/)

310 Intestinal worm Adam Kinzinger called Tucker Carlson a traitor for interviwing Putin.
Did I miss something about the U.S. and Russia

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He missed Hillary!'s "reset" button moment. Oh wait a minute. I forgot she hit the reset-reset button claiming Trump was a Russian stooge.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (xT7BI)

311 The DOD, US State Dept. and USAID are the three OIG's doing oversight on the booty being gifted to Ukraine. I'm sure they have it documented down to the nickel. (that would be sarcasm).

It is, also, the Achilles Heel of this whole mess. Oversight hearings need to be set up immediately. And, each of the oversight representatives from these three entities need to be under oath when they lie about their prowess on oversight. I'd even support legislation that tied third party auditing firms to oversight on all US foreign aid. You'd think that someone like Rand Paul would be pushing legislation like this, or is he, also, just a showman?

Posted by: Orson at February 13, 2024 02:58 PM (dIske)

312 Any bunker is prone to flooding from above if you don't control the patch above it.
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Ask me about the Reynes of Castamere.

Posted by: Tywin Lannister at February 13, 2024 02:58 PM (0gvpA)

313 The problem modern women have is that it isn't attractive for the most well preserved 35 year old to act 25 or 15. Ditto for 45, 55 and so on. You do much better to dress like a woman of your age.

Posted by: Oldcat



Says who?

- Taylor Lorenz

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:58 PM (lTGtQ)

314 267 Tay Tay was hawt 7-10 years ago. Something happened. She got weird looking. Could be the wall? Bad makeup? Hair? I dunno. No bueno.
Posted by: Montec

She's 34 now...most women look better at 24-27 than at 34. Modern wizardry like better skin care, diet, surgery, makeup, etc can slow the appearance of aging, but biologically, fertility drops rapidly around 40 for women, as does general sexual attractiveness. Almost like there's some kind of biological component.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 13, 2024 02:47 PM (JCZqz)
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Age and all the recent public exposure of her in more natural, organic conditions with her fake fag BF. All the glamor shots at red carpets, awards shows, galas, and shit like that are much more controlled and designed to flatter the participants. Better lighting, on-call makeup and hair, etc. That's not so much true when she's out in the wild like at the SB.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 13, 2024 02:58 PM (iFTx/)

315 Mitt Romney and 21 Deep State Republican Turncoats Pass $95 Billion Ukraine Aid Package -- With No Protections for Our Border

The simple name for this is...treason.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.

They are giving money to those invading our country. Funding the NGOs bringing the colonizers here and stopping the states from sending the colonizers home is no different then if FDR had paid the Imperial Japanese Army in the 40s to take Alaska...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2024 02:59 PM (ibTVg)

316 He said, yeah but he would have to return all of those favors.
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Snort. You have a smart son.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 02:59 PM (Xr4QU)

317 The problem modern women have is that it isn't attractive for the most well preserved 35 year old to act 25 or 15. Ditto for 45, 55 and so on. You do much better to dress like a woman of your age.

Posted by: Oldcat



Says who?

- Taylor Lorenz
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:58 PM (lTGtQ)

Well she's not going to do well even at her advanced age.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2024 03:00 PM (eoQWY)

318 Where are all the Code Pink bimbos? Why have they not denounced the Ukraine war?

Probably out having abortions.
Posted by: Czech Chick

One of its founders, Jodie Evans, is married to Neville Roy Singham a big proponent of the CCP and their money. Jodie is all onboard with the CCP.

Evans stated in 2023 that she now strongly supports China and regards it as a defender of the oppressed and a model for economic growth without slavery or war.[

Follow the money. CCP is a defender of the oppressed? OMG. Yes, these people are truly evil.

Posted by: Cheri at February 13, 2024 03:00 PM (oiNtH)

319 Dow down 735 , the markets are starting to get nervous

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 13, 2024 03:00 PM (DgSZ/)

320 The elites are fuckups ... most haven't built a thing, old money c*ck suckers. One thing for sure is it will not go as they planned.

Posted by: ET at February 13, 2024 03:01 PM (YbhCI)

321 I doubt that during the coming burning times these people will continue to do what they do. The collapse of government will likely result in their retreat to their gated communities with private security to "wait it out." Or their bunkers. Whatever.



Posted by: Martini Farmer



Their mistake is thinking they can wait it out. The dark ages lasted centuries last time.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 02:53 PM (lTGtQ)

It will be just another story along the lines of The Masque of the Red Death.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 13, 2024 03:01 PM (BdMk6)

322 Hey, there's a fire sale going on in NASDAQ.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 03:01 PM (Xr4QU)

323 Nancy Pelosi Claims Joe Biden Is “Very Sharp” Mentally

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Well, I'm reassured.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (FVME7)

Is the senile old bastard incapable of defending himself? Is he a child?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 13, 2024 03:01 PM (zssUw)

324 Where are all the Code Pink bimbos? Why have they not denounced the Ukraine war?


Cindy Sheehan kept protesting after Obama became president.

He had her arrested.

The rest of the Code Pinko types got the message.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2024 03:01 PM (ibTVg)

325 Where are all the Code Pink bimbos? Why have they not denounced the Ukraine war?

Code Pink only shows up for Republican presidents.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 03:02 PM (2ocoG)

326 George Straight's very name is a reification of cisnormative cultural hegemony. And your comment mentioning him is a hate crime.

Posted by: I'm being oppressed! at February 13, 2024 03:02 PM (UMHqX)

327 The final vote was 70-29 with 22 Republicans voting yes.

McConnell, Thune, Boozman, Capito, Cassidy, Collins, Cornyn, Cramer, Crapo, Ernst, Grassley, Hoeven, Kennedy, Moran, Murkowski, Risch, Romney, Rounds, Sullivan, Tillis, Wicker and Young.

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For a long time, I've called Shelley Moore Capito 'Shall We More Capitulate'. No reason to change that sobriquet now.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 13, 2024 03:02 PM (4M29A)

328 Tucker inferred that the congress people who voted to send money to Ukraine should be tried for genocide. Over 400K Ukes have died in this fake war.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 13, 2024 03:02 PM (eYF7X)

329 This literally makes me sick to my stomach. I'm bereft of any other words to describe my anger for these foul scumbags. No more words. Hate and complete contempt is child's play compared to what I feel towards them.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 13, 2024 03:02 PM (mupln)

330 Joe Biden is (not was) on the take from Ukraine, through Hunter's """business""".

But how many others are, as well? It's naive to think Zelenskyy and the other oligarchs are only padding the nests of the Biden clan. Who else has Chinese diamonds, or clever art-sale runarounds, or seats on boards for which they are eminently unqualified? Or stand to make a fucking *mint* by extending this war?

Posted by: Zorbon at February 13, 2024 03:02 PM (+tgkM)

331 These expenditures are mandatory and give little discretion in their wording.

Which would make Trumps plans to end the war problematic as the bill mandates arms transfers to Ukraine and war assistance, well past Trumps desire to end the war on day one of his administration.

Or alternatively....

The Senate GOP, in the main, are enemies of this country and need to be broomed.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 13, 2024 02:45 PM (XV/Pl)
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So Border Bill: President has power to override provisions.

Ukraine Bill: Touch the money Trump, and you go to jail.

Posted by: WisRich at February 13, 2024 03:03 PM (G0vdT)

332 Dow down 735 , the markets are starting to get nervous

Posted by: Smell the Glove


I was waiting for this. Too much false bravado and fake BLS data.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 13, 2024 03:03 PM (lTGtQ)

333 The elites are fuckups ... most haven't built a thing, old money c*ck suckers. One thing for sure is it will not go as they planned.

Most of them are the kids or grandkids of whoever built the thing. In Japan they have an actual word for "the kids inherited a great company and fucked it up", which is the correct kind of thinking.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 03:03 PM (2ocoG)

334 Directly across the street from my son's home a woman lived with her teenage son, who were Mormon. When she sold the house on moving day a parade of cars came and parked along all of the curbs covering about 4 blocks. They were there to help her move and made very short work of it. I said to my son that he should become a Mormon, see how much help you could get? He said, yeah but he would have to return all of those favors.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (7YG60)

Moving other people is pretty fun if you have enough folks you don't work yourself to death on it. Even heavy furniture is light with 4-6 fellows toting it.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2024 03:03 PM (eoQWY)

335 Chelsea Clinton claimed she left the Baptist Church at the age of six due to its stance on abortion, according to a recent interview.

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Chelsea, as stupid as she is ugly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 13, 2024 03:03 PM (FVME7)

336 Cornyn had opposition in his last race. My hunch is he funded one or two of them to ice Chad Prather.

Posted by: DanMan at February 13, 2024 03:03 PM (8uzBS)

337 I’d definitely rather have my opinion formed by Putin than FJB, McConnell or Romney.

Putin knows his ass from a hole in the ground and only lies sometimes.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 13, 2024 03:04 PM (jbnUc)

338 A headline that starts off with "Mitt Romney" is the opposite of clickbait!

Posted by: m at February 13, 2024 03:04 PM (npwPn)

339 Well she's not going to do well even at her advanced age.

Ace thinks she's pretty. His posts about her have an undercurrent of sexual tension.

Posted by: Fear the furry ewok erection! at February 13, 2024 03:04 PM (UMHqX)

340 The elites are fuckups ... most haven't built a thing, old money c*ck suckers. One thing for sure is it will not go as they planned.

Most of them are the kids or grandkids of whoever built the thing. In Japan they have an actual word for "the kids inherited a great company and fucked it up", which is the correct kind of thinking.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 03:03 PM (2ocoG)

The western phrase for that is "shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations". Grandpa built, Dad maintained, shiftless Son dissipates.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2024 03:04 PM (eoQWY)

341 She has the benefit of writing her own songs by herself, as opposed to nearly everyone else currently in pop where it's not uncommon to have two dozen writing credits on a single song (and in the case of Beyonce you're called racist if you point that out).
Posted by: Ian S. at February 13, 2024 02:51 PM (2ocoG

She doesn’t write as many of her songs as she used to.

Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 03:05 PM (MNhXM)

342 Meet 5 Democrats who have been floated as possible Biden replacements

1. California Gov. Gavin Newsom
2. Vice President Harris
3. Former first lady Michelle Obama
4. Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
5. Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear

Posted by: Don Black at February 13, 2024 03:05 PM (geLO8)

343 I would never associate Code Pink with the term bimbo. Bimbos are usually a little attractive, stupid and easy. Code Punk women are stupid, not attractive and I don't care if they're easy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 13, 2024 03:05 PM (DgSZ/)

344 Chelsea, as stupid as she is ugly.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 13, 2024 03:03 PM (FVME7)
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I hated that line.

Posted by: Warlord Sarris at February 13, 2024 03:05 PM (0gvpA)

345 Does Dr Jill know where all the money should go to his eternal home?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 13, 2024 03:05 PM (zssUw)

346 335 Chelsea Clinton claimed she left the Baptist Church at the age of six due to its stance on abortion, according to a recent interview.

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Chelsea, as stupid as she is ugly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 13, 2024 03:03 PM (FVME7)

At that age, I'd guess that most kids regularly play house and the like. My six-year-old daughter adores her baby dolls, mothers over them like a nut.

If you're six and support abortion, you're simply a product of satan. (That works on two levels in this instance)

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 13, 2024 03:05 PM (KbCG3)

347 As I've said before, in my 29 years, I've never seen the Democrats roll into Election Year without donning the Santa Clause suit with a bag full of goodies for the poor and minorities.

I mean, it's shocking.

Nothing.

No minimum wage increases.
No jobs programs.
No tax credits.
No infrastructure.

Nothing for America.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 13, 2024 03:06 PM (cSaKW)

348 "drops rapidly around 40 for women, as does general sexual attractiveness."
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Unless you are an 80 year old man.

Posted by: javems at February 13, 2024 03:06 PM (8I4hW)

349 Nancy Pelosi Claims Joe Biden Is “Very Sharp” Mentally

This coming from a woman whose husband had more sense hammered into him by his gay lover than she'll ever have.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 13, 2024 03:06 PM (N39Ws)

350 Dow down 735 , the markets are starting to get nervous

Posted by: Smell the Glove

They're blaming it on higher than expected inflation in January which is weird because Biden already killed inflation, like, two years ago

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 13, 2024 03:07 PM (FVME7)

351 335 Chelsea Clinton claimed she left the Baptist Church at the age of six due to its stance on abortion, according to a recent interview.

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Chelsea, as stupid as she is ugly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Killary was a Methodist in Arkansas not Baptist. I doubt Bill darkened the door of a church for fear of bursting into flames.

Posted by: The Who at February 13, 2024 03:07 PM (9FrDg)

352 > Meet 5 Democrats who have been floated as possible Biden replacements...
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I think if that's the route the Democrats are taking, replacing *biden, then they've already picked his successor.

The question is HOW to get rid of him.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 13, 2024 03:07 PM (Q4IgG)

353 Nancy Pelosi Claims Joe Biden Is “Very Sharp” Mentally

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Well, I'm reassured.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 13, 2024 02:57 PM (FVME7)

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"What is the sound of one strand snapping?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 13, 2024 03:08 PM (LoUMK)

354 Meet 5 Democrats who have been floated as possible Biden replacements...

Beto is crying in his sombrero somewhere

Posted by: brak at February 13, 2024 03:08 PM (AR07F)

355 Meet 5 Democrats who have been floated as possible Biden replacements

1. California Gov. Gavin Newsom
2. Vice President Harris
3. Former first lady Michelle Obama
4. Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
5. Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear


So, you've got three complete f***-up would-be fascist dictators, one heinous person with terminal RBF and no accomplishments whatsoever, and a young guy I know little about.

I'm going with the young guy. At least he hasn't shown me he's a cryptofascist....YET.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 13, 2024 03:08 PM (CsUN+)

356 Posted by: Don Black at February 13, 2024 03:05 PM (geLO

Beshear the least worst out of that bunch.

Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 03:08 PM (MNhXM)

357 I doubt Bill darkened the door of a church for fear of bursting into flames.
Posted by: The Who


There was some church in DC that he did attend as President. Don't know what denomination it was, though.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 03:08 PM (9yWhg)

358 Tucker inferred that the congress people who voted to send money to Ukraine should be tried for genocide. Over 400K Ukes have died in this fake war.
Posted by: Maj. Healey


Yeah, that's as stupid as called Tucker a traitor for interviewer Pooty-poot.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2024 03:09 PM (IG4Id)

359 Maybe.... Shrinkflation is Uni Party giving less and less a shit about what American Citizen think and need.

Posted by: MR. KIM at February 13, 2024 03:09 PM (ISu5D)

360 I thought I heard something. Oh well. Nevermind.

Posted by: Madison Cornbread at February 13, 2024 03:09 PM (nvKZ7)

361 Her stuff holds up.

Apparently so. She was fucking the entire Crosby, Weed, Pills and Hash band at one time or another.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 13, 2024 03:09 PM (o2gtA)

362 Joe Biden is (not was) on the take from Ukraine, through Hunter's """business""".

But how many others are, as well? It's naive to think Zelenskyy and the other oligarchs are only padding the nests of the Biden clan. Who else has Chinese diamonds, or clever art-sale runarounds, or seats on boards for which they are eminently unqualified? Or stand to make a fucking *mint* by extending this war?
Posted by: Zorbon at February 13, 2024 03:02 PM (+tgkM)

Romney had a nephew or someone with an NGO or some Such in Ukraine. Other money likely spills into EU pockets. Almost certainly many in the UK. Don't forget the IMF loans and NGOs that launder money we send to many many pockets.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2024 03:09 PM (eoQWY)

363 The question is HOW to get rid of him.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 13, 2024 03:07 PM (Q4IgG)

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Brandon Didn't Kill Himself.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 13, 2024 03:10 PM (LoUMK)

364 >The question is HOW to get rid of him.

Posted by: Martini Farmer


Life finds a way
btw I took that Top 5 from Fix snooze article

Posted by: Don Black at February 13, 2024 03:10 PM (geLO8)

365
What about George strait?
Posted by: Warai-otoko


How about George Gay?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 13, 2024 03:11 PM (63Dwl)

366 Fix snooze
wtf

Posted by: Don Black at February 13, 2024 03:11 PM (geLO8)

367 I always got Joni Mitchell confused with Joan Baez.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 03:11 PM (9yWhg)

368 I doubt Bill darkened the door of a church for fear of bursting into flames.
Posted by: The Who


There was some church in DC that he did attend as President. Don't know what denomination it was, though.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 13, 2024 03:08 PM (9yWhg)

Think there's a non-denominational one nearby, the one Trump went to after it was damaged in the inaugural riots. Or was it one of the other riots.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 13, 2024 03:11 PM (eoQWY)

369 Tucker inferred that the congress people who voted to send money to Ukraine should be tried for genocide. Over 400K Ukes have died in this fake war.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Yeah, that's as stupid as called Tucker a traitor for interviewer Pooty-poot.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 13, 2024 03:09 PM (IG4Id)

The difference is one side is serious and the other is exaggerating for literary effect. Ann Coulter’s style.

Posted by: Sap Green at February 13, 2024 03:11 PM (MNhXM)

370 new

Posted by: Don Black at February 13, 2024 03:13 PM (geLO8)

371 Way to represent Mississippi, Senator Wicker. Here you are, running both online and television ads that have President Trump's picture in them, misleading voters that you are MAGA, when you are nothing more than one of Mitch McConnell's flying monkeys.
Seriously Roger, your are a liar and an embarrassment but you'll probably win re-election because enough gullible people will see your ads and fill in the oval by your name. I wonder how many of them would recast for you if they realized what you just did. I also wonder how many still don't know that you voted to confirm Biden's fraudulent electors in 2021. And yet here you are, running ads with Trump's pictures. You haven't fooled everyone though.
You are a corrupt, despicable human being Roger. But DC made you rich, so what do you care? Fucking scumbag!

Posted by: Tracy at February 13, 2024 03:13 PM (He1At)

372 > Beshear the least worst out of that bunch.
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Don't count on it. He's our governor and he's awful. As far left as any of the others on the list. And equally stupid.

They're all pliable tho'. So in the final analysis it probably doesn't matter as we'd be equally fucked no matter what.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 13, 2024 03:14 PM (Q4IgG)

373
It's been one of my general principles, if a musical artist didn't write their own music, I'm not going to be interested to hear them sing or play.

Now, people can do covers, and some of them are fine, but the bulk your output has to be your own.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2024 02:54 PM (dGCAG)


I once got into an argument about Jon Bon Jovi being a hack when I pointed out that 90% of his hits were actually written by Desmond Child.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 13, 2024 03:14 PM (n+4am)

374 Heresy!

Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Model Kristen Louelle Gaffney Shows up to Super Bowl Event With MAGA Purse, Praises Trump for Putting Americans First

http://tinyurl.com/mphanury

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 13, 2024 03:14 PM (FVME7)

375 I mean, it's shocking.

Nothing.

No minimum wage increases.
No jobs programs.
No tax credits.
No infrastructure.

Nothing for America.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

That means to me that they anticipate a Trump Presidency so are rushing to push through as much grift now while they can.

Posted by: Cheri at February 13, 2024 03:18 PM (oiNtH)

376 Killary was a Methodist in Arkansas not Baptist. I doubt Bill darkened the door of a church for fear of bursting into flames.
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He was in the choir of the biggest Baptist Church in Little Rock.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 03:18 PM (Hpgos)

377
If you're six and support abortion, you're simply a product of satan. (That works on two levels in this instance)

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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...or Web Hubbell

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 13, 2024 03:20 PM (XeU6L)

378 Joe Biden's brain does more planks than Ruth Bader Corpseburg ever did. So it can't be that he's forgotten these dealings.

Posted by: Sharp as a tack made of jello at February 13, 2024 03:21 PM (UMHqX)

379 Nood.

Posted by: Slartibartfast at February 13, 2024 03:21 PM (T+Iwg)

380
I once got into an argument about Jon Bon Jovi being a hack when I pointed out that 90% of his hits were actually written by Desmond Child.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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You do know that I didn't actually write 'I Write The Songs'?

Posted by: Barry Manilow at February 13, 2024 03:22 PM (XeU6L)

381 376 Killary was a Methodist in Arkansas not Baptist. I doubt Bill darkened the door of a church for fear of bursting into flames.
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He was in the choir of the biggest Baptist Church in Little Rock.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 13, 2024 03:18 PM (Hpgos)

Organ playing?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 13, 2024 03:24 PM (N39Ws)

382 No money for Ukraine precisely because the 22 decepticon 'republican' senators voted for their own kickbacks.

That 'war' had a peace agreement signed in April '22 and these assholes pulled it off the table.

No, I don't support Putin, but his currency and society is humming right along. Our sanctions are helping him while walling us off from the rest of the world.

Posted by: Danimal28 at February 13, 2024 03:31 PM (klw0w)

383 C'mon Ace, you keep gittin' muh name wrong!

(I've got a southern drawl now)

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at February 13, 2024 03:37 PM (PJaTp)

384 Kill 'em all

Posted by: JoshO at February 13, 2024 03:42 PM (LmUpe)

385
135 I'm really disappointed in John Kennedy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 13, 2024 02:30 PM

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that Keneedy is an establishment RINO who knows how to throw out "red meat" sound bites when it doesn't cost his standing with his fellow RINOs. Just think Trey Gowdy but in the Senate.

Posted by: JT Smith at February 13, 2024 04:41 PM (FxdZx)

386 Taylor has started to look … artificial. I don’t know if it’s the makeup, surgeries, or what. She’s got some kind of uncanny valley thing going on.

Posted by: Advo at February 13, 2024 06:04 PM (VHN21)

387 It's the best I could come up with and a good model. Cruz may not be everyone's favorite, but he is lightyears better than Dewhurst or Cornyn. He was a long shot. Would be nice to rid ourselves of Cornyn, but we are stuck for awhile.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 13, 2024 02:41 PM (sX1BW)

Cornyn saw how Cruz got grassroots support, and how Richard Lugar got knocked out in Indiana. Since then, he’s filled the primaries like a clown car or made sure no one has ever gotten traction against him. I’ll vote for anyone else in the primary, and I’ll consider the Democrat if I have to.

Cornyn must go.

Posted by: Advo at February 13, 2024 06:08 PM (VHN21)

388 Tell me why the GOPe exists?

Posted by: Sally at February 13, 2024 08:12 PM (EcD5Y)

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