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ABC "News"/Ipsos Poll: 86% of Americans Say Biden is "Too Old" to be President

That's as much agreement on a political issue as you'll ever have.

Quick Hit:

A recent ABC News/Ipsos poll reveals that 86%--nearly all Americans--believe President Joe Biden, at 81, is too old for another term.

Key Details:

86% of Americans consider Biden too old for another term, with 62% expressing the same about Trump.

There is a notable partisan divide, with 73% of Democrats seeing Biden as too old, while only 35% of Republicans think the same about Trump.

The release of Special Counsel Robert Hur's report, which did not recommend charges against Biden but commented on his mental fitness, has intensified calls for invoking the 25th Amendment.

Americans show more trust in Trump over Biden on issues like immigration, the economy, and crime, but Biden leads on healthcare and climate change.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:57 PM




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1 Kittens!

Posted by: Gordon Shumway at February 12, 2024 12:58 PM (PiwSw)

2 last

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

3 Abortion and climate change ! Biden should be so proud !

Posted by: It's me donna at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (Akjoo)

4 Classified documents Biden +10

The power of media

Or bullshit.

Posted by: ... at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (oNgxs)

5 86%...that's essentially everyone.

That's approaching Brand Name Status.

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (nSDU/)

6 Well, let's hope they vote and their votes get counted.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (xcxpd)

7 Who's gonna replace him, Ace?

What are the betting odds?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (AJDwy)

8 Everybody has taken the spin bait.

Yeah it's age and not the specific dementia of Joe Biden.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (krQz2)

9 Healthcare: Biden +10

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There are just some things that I don't get, like asking which presidential candidate would be better at handling healthcare.

I mean...what? Are people imagining presidents doing surgery? Is it really just, who will keep the existing healthcare system (which everyone seems to hate) going? I thought the healthcare system was fixed with the ACA?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (GBKbO)

10 ABC "News"/Ipsos Poll: 86% of Americans Say Biden is "Too Old" to be President

That's as much agreement on a political issue as you'll ever have.


Yes, but that is NOT the same thing as "I won't vote for him because he's too damn old".

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (CsUN+)

11 I said I thought Trump was too old to run this year, back when he lost in 2020, and it did not go over well here.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (DRSnL)

12 How is "classified documents" handling on a poll?

Posted by: Austin in TX at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (l00bX)

13 4 Classified documents Biden +10

The power of media

Or bullshit.
Posted by: ... at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (oNgxs)

LOL... That's a good one and Education Joe too... LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (Akjoo)

14 Is the media so determined to keep dying Joe in office because they feel only he can beat Trump?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (zssUw)

15 Who's gonna replace him, Ace?


Taylor Swift, obviously.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (CsUN+)

16 Everybody has taken the spin bait.

Yeah it's age and not the specific dementia of Joe Biden.
Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (krQz2)

Yup.

Posted by: ... at February 12, 2024 01:01 PM (oNgxs)

17 >>Who's gonna replace him, Ace?


Andy Reid 2024 : TIME OUT

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2024 01:01 PM (nSDU/)

18 If he's not mentally fit to stand trial, he's not mentally fit to govern the country.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (G8h7g)

19 7 Who's gonna replace him, Ace?

What are the betting odds?
Posted by: AlaBAMA

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The Dem insiders are asking themselves that question--If not Biden--then who.

We will find out about it in due course.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (9FrDg)

20 Immigration: Trump +18
• The Economy: Trump +12
• Abortion: Biden +9

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"I hate what the country is becoming, but I'm gonna vote for Biden because I may need an abortion someday even though abortion is now a state issue."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (GBKbO)

21 Posted by: ... at February 12, 2024 01:01 PM (oNgxs)

=====

*waves at Ellipsis*

I missed you!

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (DRSnL)

22 16 Everybody has taken the spin bait.

Yeah it's age and not the specific dementia of Joe Biden.
Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (krQz2)

Yup.
Posted by: ... at February 12, 2024 01:01 PM (oNgxs)

Yup... They are going on all the talking head shows and saying Trump is to old also..

Posted by: It's me donna at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (Akjoo)

23 Americans show more trust in Trump over Biden on issues like immigration, the economy, and crime, but Biden leads on healthcare and climate change.

And where do those topics stand in the hierarchy of importance? That's the real question.

Hint: CC ain't near the top.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (CsUN+)

24 Plus they want you to buy that the Joe Biden facade they voted for, who had 50 years in DC, didn't know the VP wasn't supposed to take home classified documents and keep them.

Like he hadn't participated in some of the legislation around the classification of documents...in 50 years.

So, we can assume it's all just innocent incompetence that we voted for as competence. Tell that one again to me, Dems?

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (krQz2)

25 I wonder if any of the people rating Biden better on healthcare actually knows that he rolled back Trump executive orders that lowered medicine costs, all so 6 months later he could reinstate the same EOs and act like he did something great.

Wonder how many people he bankrupted for a publicity stunt.

Posted by: Rbastid at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (3QvFU)

26 He looks too damn old to ME

Posted by: Zeera , becoming ungovernable by choice at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (qGQta)

27 But he rides a bike. A bike!!!

Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (YofvK)

28 There’s a guy that always says “and so it begins.” Which I enjoy.

I’ll probably get known as the “we’re fucked” commenter. Not as enjoyable.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (JeYYB)

29 Biden out performs trump on the various bullshit related political issues plus murding children. Freakish sky worship and child sacrifice.

Sounds a wee bit cultish, no?

Posted by: banana Dream at February 12, 2024 01:03 PM (CPrGm)

30 But he'll get 91 million "votes."

Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 12, 2024 01:03 PM (KiBMU)

31 You can't get 86% of Americans to agree that that the suns rises in the East.

Posted by: Mark in South Jordan Utah at February 12, 2024 01:03 PM (ugW/0)

32 The classified documents one is mind blowing. I can only assume there was no reporting whatsoever on the topic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Scientists can't even figure out how many moons the Earth has at February 12, 2024 01:03 PM (WF0+t)

33 Biden leads on healthcare and climate change
.......

Moar Big Government
What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: wth at February 12, 2024 01:03 PM (v0R5T)

34 What percentage of Americans think Kamala is too dumb to be president?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 12, 2024 01:03 PM (Hpgos)

35 Yup... They are going on all the talking head shows and saying Trump is to old also..

I think they're assuming Biden will be gone, and they have to find someone who they think can beat Trump.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:03 PM (CsUN+)

36 86%?

THAT'S YOUR OPINION, MAN!

-- Some old man

Posted by: BurtTC at February 12, 2024 01:03 PM (dGCAG)

37 I like watching him walk or shuffle while he tries. If his arms were 3" longer he would scrape his knuckles while he shuffles.

Chuckles the knuckle shuffler. Perhaps Donny two scoops could use that?

Posted by: Lloyd Loar at February 12, 2024 01:03 PM (JhVFo)

38 How do they measure the various sub-questions? Is Biden being up on climate change because it only counts people who answer that question at all? Is the question more of the order of “who is more likely to act on X” or “who would you prefer to make policy to combat X”?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (PmqP5)

39 They are going on all the talking head shows and saying Trump is to old also..
Posted by: It's me donna at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (Akjoo)
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Meanwhile, I'm thinking their alcohol and narcotics history aren't nearly the same.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (krQz2)

40 What mental midgets took that ABC/IPSOS poll? The numbers make no sense. Where Trump is ahead, he should be much further ahead. Where he is behind, he should be much further behind.

Oh and suck my bozack with this always including the bullshit, made-up, wipe-your-ass-with-it issue of "climate change." They always insert this bullshit into every poll that otherwise deals with serious issues. Might as well include a polling question "Is Travis Kelce a homo?"

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (iFTx/)

41 How is "classified documents" handling on a poll?
Posted by: Austin in TX at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (l00bX)


I can't tell you how many times I've settled on a candidate due to their classified document handling chops.

Posted by: spindrift at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (MqhXY)

42 There are just some things that I don't get, like asking which presidential candidate would be better at handling healthcare.

I mean...what? Are people imagining presidents doing surgery? Is it really just, who will keep the existing healthcare system (which everyone seems to hate) going? I thought the healthcare system was fixed with the ACA?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (GBKbO)


Biden *cares* more. Or something.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (bhRsz)

43 This poll is so dumb. So the same voter thinks the border should be closed, get tough on crime but also provide govt health care and ban cars to fight climate change.

Yeah whatever.

Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (YofvK)

44 Does that include "undocumented Americans"?

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (qUkBO)

45 Afternoon Ace. All of the things that Biden leads in are things government shouldn't be involved with. Healthcare should be largely private, climate change is a scam , abortion should continue have government involved, and there are way too many classified documents and education isn't a Fed government issue. Trump leads in the things that are reality to the he average person.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (DgSZ/)

46 It's a shame polls are so easily manipulated by the media.

I'd like to see a poll where people are actually informed by the truth of the matter.

Good luck, right?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (AJDwy)

47 How is "classified documents" handling on a poll?
Posted by: Austin in TX at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (l00bX)

It’s what made FDR win all those elections.

Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:05 PM (YofvK)

48 They said the same thing about Reagan's age too, you know . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 12, 2024 01:05 PM (iFTx/)

49 Might as well include a polling question "Is Travis Kelce a homo?"

Well?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:05 PM (CsUN+)

50 I wonder if any of the people rating Biden better on healthcare actually knows that he rolled back Trump executive orders that lowered medicine costs, all so 6 months later he could reinstate the same EOs and act like he did something great.

Posted by: Rbastid at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (3QvFU)
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Taylor Swift is going to take care of all that.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:05 PM (krQz2)

51 Anyway, I'm thinking about buying a case of 147gr JHP for 9mm testing.

Probably won't happen until March, money wise.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:05 PM (xcxpd)

52 "I hate what the country is becoming, but I'm gonna vote for Biden because I may need an abortion someday even though abortion is now a state issue."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Meanwhile, corporate real estate is crashing and a lot of smaller banks are overexposed in this sector. If the Fed drops interest rates to save banks, then inflation will spiral upwards again just in time for November.

The counter is that China is now exporting deflation as their internal economy and demand is flatlining---real estate was a much bigger part of their gdp growth than ours.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:05 PM (9FrDg)

53 How is "classified documents" handling on a poll?
Posted by: Austin in TX at February 12, 2024 01:00 PM (l00bX)


It's a general indicator of how well informed the respondent is. For example, are they aware that the President has the absolute authority to declassify anything? Are they aware that the President has the authority to retain papers related to his Presidency after the end of that Presidency. Are they aware that Senators and Vice Presidents have neither if those.

Basically, it says that 41% of respondents are either stupid, uninformed, or have an utter disregard of the truth. A further 26% may have fallen into those categories or may have been unwilling to confirm their standings.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:05 PM (GYIa4)

54 What terrible things do the Demoncrats and the media think would happen if Biden stepped down?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:06 PM (zssUw)

55 “The special counsel deemed Biden pure as the driven snow. Separately, and apropos of nothing, he said Biden was old.”

Posted by: Oglebay at February 12, 2024 01:07 PM (ogTiX)

56 So far 5.2 million abortions this year around the world, 7.1 million dead from all other causes. People love to kill babies, it seems.

Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at February 12, 2024 01:07 PM (EcHpA)

57 They're gonna take away your health care.

They're gonna take away abortion.

Those are the campaign ads, and they will pound it out relentlessly.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 12, 2024 01:07 PM (KiBMU)

58 "I hate what the country is becoming, but I'm gonna vote for Biden because I may need an abortion someday even though abortion is now a state issue."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (GBKbO)


It almost sounds like you're saying the average voter is an idiot.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:07 PM (bhRsz)

59 This poll is so dumb. So the same voter thinks the border should be closed, get tough on crime but also provide govt health care and ban cars to fight climate change.

Yeah whatever.
Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (YofvK)


We as a society treat it as an act of virtue to vote, no matter how empty and uninformed the voter's head is. You get a sticker and everything.

I think universal enfranchisement has pretty much run its course.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicer043) at February 12, 2024 01:07 PM (vDyah)

60 How do they measure the various sub-questions? Is Biden being up on climate change because it only counts people who answer that question at all? Is the question more of the order of “who is more likely to act on X” or “who would you prefer to make policy to combat X”?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 12, 2024 01:04 PM (PmqP5)

My assumption is, how one prioritizes the various topics is how the numbers skew.

I don't know how the question gets asked, but I'm betting "healthcare" is just bleed over for abortion.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 12, 2024 01:07 PM (dGCAG)

61 The counter is that China is now exporting deflation as their internal economy and demand is flatlining---real estate was a much bigger part of their gdp growth than ours.

I've seen it described that way several times now. The problem is that I don't see how they can. Their profits are already circling the drain, and companies are pulling out of China. The only thing they can do is cut wages, which should be really popular considering the cratering RE market in which most people were invested.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:08 PM (CsUN+)

62 My comment on abortion in @45 should say shouldn't, not should

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 12, 2024 01:08 PM (DgSZ/)

63 I can't tell you how many times I've settled on a candidate due to their classified document handling chops.
Posted by: spindrift


Sandy Berger was clearly travelling, yet no call from the refs.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 12, 2024 01:08 PM (gM8RE)

64 I notice how the press focus is mainly on FJB's age, and not mainly on his incapacity. We should always emphasize his dementia (and stupidity) rather than his age, to avoid the very sympathy trap that Hur predicted.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 12, 2024 01:08 PM (MvF+J)

65 I just hope all of America's problems aren't solved when Taylor Swift endorses Joe.

I want to keep something to bitch about!

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:08 PM (krQz2)

66 51 Anyway, I'm thinking about buying a case of 147gr JHP for 9mm testing.

Probably won't happen until March, money wise.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
---------
Decent performing cartridge as far as penetration/expansion if you get the 2nd generation hollowpoint bullets. HST and Golden Saber/Ultimate Defense have good penetration/expansion for this cartridge. Sig also has a decent performer as well as Winchester.

And then there is that suppressor issue.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:08 PM (9FrDg)

67 This has been my fear for awhile. They kick Biden to the curb for age, which opens up that attack against Trump.

And I don't care who you are, you DO lose a step in your 70's and 80's.

Hell, I'm in my mid 60's and I know I am not as sharp as I once was.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2024 01:09 PM (xaFKb)

68 "I hate what the country is becoming, but I'm gonna vote for Biden because I may need an abortion someday even though abortion is now a state issue."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (GBKbO)


I think it's more likely "I am utterly unaware that abortion is a state issue but, if I were aware, I would still support Uncle Creepy because some people in some state in which I don't live might decide things in a way I disapprove."

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:09 PM (GYIa4)

69 So, the narrative this week is "*biden's old."

Is this the excuse the Democrats are going to use in order to rearrange their ticket come November?

Is next month going to be "Kamala's too stupid?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 12, 2024 01:09 PM (Q4IgG)

70 Classified Documents: Biden +10

More proof that polling is stupid because people are stupid.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (FCbAQ)

71 "I hate what the country is becoming, but I'm gonna vote for Biden because I may need an abortion someday even though abortion is now a state issue."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (GBKbO)
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Remember when they used to say that conservatives should not be 1-issue voters?

Like many things, they're not saying that anymore.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (krQz2)

72 It's not the age; it's the mileage.
Applies to both Joetato and Tay Tay.

Posted by: Henry Jones, Jr. at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (RZGqh)

73 66 51 Anyway, I'm thinking about buying a case of 147gr JHP for 9mm testing.

Probably won't happen until March, money wise.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
---------
Decent performing cartridge as far as penetration/expansion if you get the 2nd generation hollowpoint bullets. HST and Golden Saber/Ultimate Defense have good penetration/expansion for this cartridge. Sig also has a decent performer as well as Winchester.

And then there is that suppressor issue.
Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:08 PM (9FrDg)

I'll probably start cheap, with some Federal LE overrun lots. I was happy with their gel performance. HST would be ideal but I don't think I can commit to buying a case of that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (xcxpd)

74
Hell, I'm in my mid 60's and I know I am not as sharp as I once was.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2024 01:09 PM (xaFKb)

We weren't gonna mention it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (AJDwy)

75 Posted by: Jordan61 at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (DRSnL)

Hey there sweet thang. Busy autumn and winter. Still busy but I care less now!

Posted by: ... at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (oNgxs)

76 Their profits are already circling the drain, and companies are pulling out of China. The only thing they can do is cut wages, which should be really popular considering the cratering RE market in which most people were invested.
Posted by: Archimedes


China exported deflation for the last 20 or so years, but no more. Their wages are higher than most other third world countries.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (gM8RE)

77 In my opinion, the scary scenario is if the Dems force Biden out and get RJK Jr. to replace him.

All their voters will fall in line as usual, and they'll be joined by a bunch of moderates/independents who either a) are still wowed by the Kennedy name or b) regard him (with good reason) as more of a truth-teller on Covid and the lockdowns than either Trump or Biden.

Democrats may not even need to cheat in that case.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (bhRsz)

78 This has been my fear for awhile. They kick Biden to the curb for age, which opens up that attack against Trump.


Correct. I think they have surmised that Biden is a lost cause, but they also know that whoever is his replacement will need additional aid in the form of attacks on Trump's age.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (CsUN+)

79 to quote Jesse Kelly: "Elections are now decided by the blocking & tackling of chasing down votes. “Poll number” this and “Biden can't talk” that won't matter at all..."

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1756017980083687765

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at February 12, 2024 01:10 PM (V6W16)

80 I think universal enfranchisement has pretty much run its course.


-

We're absolutely, 100% seeing that having no investment in the system / skin in the game (conscription for men) will soon collapse a nation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Scientists can't even figure out how many moons the Earth has at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (WF0+t)

81 Might as well include a polling question "Is Travis Kelce a homo?"

Well?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:05 PM (CsUN+)

____________

I recommend not getting drunk and sitting on a couch with him late at night unless you like dick

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (iFTx/)

82 Polls are just exploratory frameworks for whatever narrative they eventually decide on to explain the "voting" results. They try out this and that, workshopping like any good author. The past few "elections" used the white women just really want to murder their children narrative to explain the predetermined results and used polling like this as an explanation.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (CPrGm)

83 69. No, it's a tool to remove Trump due to age also. The NTs will jump on too

Posted by: GOP sux at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (Zzbjj)

84 There is an energetic younger man in the race - RFK Jr is only 70.

Posted by: Oglebay at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (ogTiX)

85 At best maybe 1/3 of voters are 100% anti-abortion. Taking that position is a sure file loser.

Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (YofvK)

86 Basically, it says that 41% of respondents are either stupid, uninformed, or have an utter disregard of the truth. A further 26% may have fallen into those categories or may have been unwilling to confirm their standings.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:05 PM (GYIa4)

If you don't read the news, you are not informed.

If you do read the news, you are mis informed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (xaFKb)

87 I've already seen some liberal types claiming that Trump is showing signs of senility. Almost as if it's coordinated.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (4olE8)

88 And where do those topics stand in the hierarchy of importance? That's the real question.

Hint: CC ain't near the top.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (CsUN+)


Also, kinda funny since I've been reliably informed by Top Men that climate change has increased every year of the Biden Presidency and this is our final, last, ultimate hope to embrace a worldwide totalitarian government before we're all killed by an atmospheric trace gas required to support plant life.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (GYIa4)

89 But why is Healthcare listed as a separate category from Abortion? I thought killing babies was healthcare in clownworld.

Posted by: The floor is Translava at February 12, 2024 01:12 PM (Zz86T)

90 China exported deflation for the last 20 or so years, but no more. Their wages are higher than most other third world countries./i]

According to Peter Zeihan (so, you know, Great Salt Lake) Mexican labor is now a third as expensive as Chinese labor.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:12 PM (CsUN+)

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:12 PM (CsUN+)

92 87 I've already seen some liberal types claiming that Trump is showing signs of senility. Almost as if it's coordinated.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (4olE

Technically, we're coordinating too.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 12, 2024 01:12 PM (AJDwy)

93 91
Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:12 PM (CsUN+)
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You couldn't say something nice, I take it.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:12 PM (krQz2)

94 "I hate what the country is becoming, but I'm gonna vote for Biden because I may need an abortion someday even though abortion is now a state issue."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:02 PM (GBKbO)
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You forgot to include the support from M-to-F trannies who at least want the *option* of having an abortion, even though they can't actually get pregnant.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 12, 2024 01:12 PM (7fElN)

95 Also, kinda funny since I've been reliably informed by Top Men that climate change has increased every year of the Biden Presidency


In 2023 climates was at its topmost changiest.

It's SCIENCE!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicer043) at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (vDyah)

96 Back during the Clinton years husband and I noticed that 13% of the American people would believe any crackbrained thing you could name. It wasn't, of course, always the same 13% but for any issue, no matter how extreme, there was always a floor of 13%.

So Biden gets that 13% Kook Factor plus 1%. Yeah, that's pretty much a universal thumbs down.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (FEVMW)

97 85 At best maybe 1/3 of voters are 100% anti-abortion. Taking that position is a sure file loser.
Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (YofvK)

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Abortion until birth is at best 1/10 voters , doesn’t stop Dem politicians from taking that position.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (a2BJE)

98 I've already seen some liberal types claiming that Trump is showing signs of senility. Almost as if it's coordinated.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (4olE
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They did that when he aced the easy cognitive test that the guy who met with Hur would have to be pumped full of drugs to pass.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (krQz2)

99 You couldn't say something nice, I take it.

I've been working on my Mitch McConnell impression. What do you think?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (CsUN+)

100 Russia/Ukraine war: Trump +3

Now remember the GOPe has been telling us that what "we" get out of these various budget deals is more money for Ukraine.

Looks like that's not what Republicans, OR THE ELECTORATE AS A WHOLE, want.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (ibTVg)

101 This has been my fear for awhile. They kick Biden to the curb for age, which opens up that attack against Trump.

And I don't care who you are, you DO lose a step in your 70's and 80's.

Hell, I'm in my mid 60's and I know I am not as sharp as I once was.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2024 01:09 PM (xaFKb)


As someone who's made it very clear how much they've soured on Trump, I don't think the age thing can be used against him as effectively. Trump's made some flubs here and there, but he still gives the impression of being "with it," far more than Biden ever could.

That's not to say the Dems won't try to turn around and play that card against him, though, because they absolutely will.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (bhRsz)

102 9 Healthcare: Biden +10

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There are just some things that I don't get, like asking which presidential candidate would be better at handling healthcare.

I mean...what? Are people imagining presidents doing surgery? Is it really just, who will keep the existing healthcare system (which everyone seems to hate) going? I thought the healthcare system was fixed with the ACA?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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Substitute ObamaCare/Health insurance for health care.
Betting many interviewed were too young to have experienced and paid for the healthcare insurance system pre-Obama. Either that or they are employed by Govt or Big Corp that covers most of the expense and offers a better coverage package.

Interview people over 45 (that's about the age one starts using said insurance) and that number reverses.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:14 PM (6ac8h)

103 Did any mention the Joel Osteen Church Shooter was apparently a Transgender?

Posted by: rd at February 12, 2024 01:14 PM (eX20e)

104 I've already seen some liberal types claiming that Trump is showing signs of senility. Almost as if it's coordinated.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (4olE


Where do I get in on this action???

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at February 12, 2024 01:14 PM (vDyah)

105 I've already seen some liberal types claiming that Trump is showing signs of senility. Almost as if it's coordinated.
Posted by: NR Pax

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Ha. Nikki Haley's ads against Trump are almost entirely about age and senility.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Scientists can't even figure out how many moons the Earth has at February 12, 2024 01:15 PM (WF0+t)

106 I've seen it described that way several times now. The problem is that I don't see how they can. Their profits are already circling the drain, and companies are pulling out of China. The only thing they can do is cut wages, which should be really popular considering the cratering RE market in which most people were invested.
Posted by: Archimedes
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China's government is shoveling money at export industries and they are cutting prices. Perfect example is their solar cell and lithium battery tech. That is the real reason a lot of US planned domestic lithium battery plants from the Nude Green Eel are being scrapped. Cheap batteries from China are meeting weak demand from a shrinking EV market. Ditto electric motors and components. At the same time, computer demands aren't great, consumer electronics is flatlining, etc.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:15 PM (9FrDg)

107 104 I've already seen some liberal types claiming that Trump is showing signs of senility. Almost as if it's coordinated.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (4olE

So I guess all the charges against him should be dropped....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 12, 2024 01:15 PM (Akjoo)

108 Did any mention the Joel Osteen Church Shooter was apparently a Transgender?

Male-to-female? Female-to-male?

Nevermind. I've pretty much lost interest.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 12, 2024 01:15 PM (vDyah)

109 As someone who's made it very clear how much they've soured on Trump, I don't think the age thing can be used against him as effectively. Trump's made some flubs here and there, but he still gives the impression of being "with it," far more than Biden ever could.

That's not to say the Dems won't try to turn around and play that card against him, though, because they absolutely will.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (bhRsz)

They don't need to say he has deteriorated YET, just 'will he last 4 more years'.

We've all had dealings with the elderly, and seen how fast they can go downhill.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2024 01:15 PM (xaFKb)

110 "Is Travis Kelce a homo?"

So Tay-Tay is a fag hag beard?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at February 12, 2024 01:15 PM (KC4f+)

111 Left has REALLY been trying to hit Trump with the same "old, demented" accusations.

BIDEN CAMPAIGN STATEMENT - "Every single time Donald Trump opens his mouth, he's confused, deranged, lying, or worse."

LA Times: Column: Biden’s memory is failing. So is Trump’s. The question is whose flaws are more dangerous. During the 2020 campaign, Trump publicly charged that Biden, then only 77, was suffering from “dementia.” The insult didn’t stick...

Trump, too, often appears to suffer from memory lapses.

He confused Nikki Haley, with Nancy Pelosi, the former Democratic speaker of the House. He referred to the president of Hungary as the president of Turkey.

Trump has glaring flaws beyond his memory problems. He is the undisputed king of presidential mendacity; the Washington Post has estimated that he made more than 30,000 false or misleading claims during his four years in the White House.

Several years ago, I asked Biden what strategy he relied on to bounce back from a gaffe.

“Own it,” he said. The question isn’t whose aging memory is sharper. It’s whose flaws are more dangerous.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (JCZqz)

112 I recommend not getting drunk and sitting on a couch with him late at night unless you like dick
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (iFTx/)

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Someone on X was commenting on his sparkly outfit walking into the stadium. I thought they were kidding, then I saw it and was WTF?

Taylor's gay clothing designer made it for him I'm sure.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (JeYYB)

113 "Did any mention the Joel Osteen Church Shooter was apparently a Transgender?"

Illegal immigrant transgender!

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (MvF+J)

114

He’ll still have the blacks.

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (et1vG)

115 It's not Biden's age- it's his galloping dementia. (And his evilness, vileness, child moles., corruption, and general dishonesty...)

The left is trying to capture the narrative with the "too old" narrative so they can ensnare Trump in the same trap.

Posted by: LASue at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (5nQel)

116 I hate what the country is becoming, but I'm gonna vote for Biden because I may need an abortion someday even though abortion is now a state issue."

I know plenty of abortion supporting AWFLs.

They voted in 2022 for Democrats. And in 2020. And in 2018...and on and. Ancedotally, the repeal of R v W had no change among the voting patterns of the people I know (except a few pro-lifers that didn't vote before voting now)

The people motivated by abortion though are also leftist in most other issues and given a pro-abortion Republican will still vote for the Democrat.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (ibTVg)

117 79 to quote Jesse Kelly: "Elections are now decided by the blocking & tackling of chasing down votes. “Poll number” this and “Biden can't talk” that won't matter at all..."



To a large extent this is true. Which side mobilizes their voters the most wins. Which is why Taylor Swift matters. Yeah she won’t turn a singleTrump voter into a Biden voter. But she will get
SOME Biden non voters to vote. And even if it’s only 0.1%of her tens of millions of fans, it makes a difference. Last election Georgia and Arizona were both “won” by 10k votes in 2020.

Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (YofvK)

118 Biden has pretty much take the SPR to leve never seen since it was formed.
When the SPR can't keep gas prices low, then inflation will spiral upwards again just in time for November.

Posted by: SMOD at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (RHGPo)

119 I've already seen some liberal types claiming that Trump is showing signs of senility. Almost as if it's coordinated.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (4olE

Where do I get in on this action???
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at February 12, 2024 01:14 PM (vDyah)

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Just keep plagiarizing Ace.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (u8Ce0)

120 BIDEN CAMPAIGN STATEMENT - "Every single time Donald Trump opens his mouth, he's confused, deranged, lying, or worse."

LA Times: Column: Biden’s memory is failing. So is Trump’s. The question is whose flaws are more dangerous. During the 2020 campaign, Trump publicly charged that Biden, then only 77, was suffering from “dementia.” The insult didn’t stick...


Let's have a bake off!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 12, 2024 01:17 PM (AJDwy)

121 110 Inside every jock there's a tiny towel-snapper.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 12, 2024 01:17 PM (MvF+J)

122 Imagine that, before you go to see a doctor, you have to see a surly. Hate-filled, angry police officer who hates you just for not being a police officer (as they currently do). And you have to get his or her permission to see the doctor.

This is what Statist/Socialists want in terms of medical care.

I don’t see how the former VP has a double digit advantage on medical care - something we need to get government AWAY from to improve it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 12, 2024 01:17 PM (1yK0s)

123 We've all had dealings with the elderly, and seen how fast they can go downhill.

Tommy Udo has entered the chat.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at February 12, 2024 01:17 PM (KC4f+)

124 The left: Trump is the greatest danger this country has ever faced. He is literally Hitler.

Also the left: Uh, no our guy isn't senile yours is!

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:17 PM (ibTVg)

125 They don't need to say he has deteriorated YET, just 'will he last 4 more years'.

We've all had dealings with the elderly, and seen how fast they can go downhill.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2024 01:15 PM (xaFKb)


Fair point.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:17 PM (bhRsz)

126 94
You forgot to include the support from M-to-F trannies who at least want the *option* of having an abortion, even though they can't actually get pregnant.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 12, 2024 01:12 PM (7fElN)

M-to-F trannies want the option. Their option has always been available. It's called spending $25 at Taco Bell with draft beer chasers. Legal in all 50 states.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 12, 2024 01:18 PM (N39Ws)

127 Did any mention the Joel Osteen Church Shooter was apparently a Transgender?
Posted by: rd


Only every other comment on Twitter. Other than that, no.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 12, 2024 01:18 PM (IG4Id)

128 I would think that Biden is a loser, but how does the DNC sell someone with less name recognition, who will follow the same WEF policies that put us in this financial hole, and do it without primaries? I think they are stuck.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 12, 2024 01:18 PM (gM8RE)

129 Hey Ho!
Joe's got to go!

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:18 PM (Mi8Re)

130
Lakewood Church shooter a mentally-ill gender bender. Move along, nothing to see here. We may never know the motive.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 12, 2024 01:19 PM (2O0Dz)

131 The transgender that did the shooting at Lakewood Church had Free Palestine written on his AR-15.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 12, 2024 01:19 PM (NpAcC)

132 Sandy Berger was clearly travelling, yet no call from the refs.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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And FJB is double dribbling.

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 12, 2024 01:19 PM (1eY81)

133 to quote Jesse Kelly: "Elections are now decided by the blocking & tackling of chasing down votes. “Poll number” this and “Biden can't talk” that won't matter at all..."

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Chasing down ballots, not actual votes.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 12, 2024 01:19 PM (u8Ce0)

134 85 At best maybe 1/3 of voters are 100% anti-abortion. Taking that position is a sure file loser.
Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (YofvK)

Since when does the United States have a unitary government?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 12, 2024 01:19 PM (1yK0s)

135 85 At best maybe 1/3 of voters are 100% anti-abortion. Taking that position is a sure file loser.
Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (YofvK)

———

The Biden classified documents scandal is proof the National Archives or any other government entity could care less about classified documents.

And going after Trump about documents is therefore bullshit.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 12, 2024 01:20 PM (a2BJE)

136
M-to-F trannies want the option.

_________

Soon there will be a market for surrogate abortions.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 12, 2024 01:20 PM (2O0Dz)

137 130
Lakewood Church shooter a mentally-ill gender bender. Move along, nothing to see here. We may never know the motive.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 12, 2024 01:19 PM (2O0Dz)

Still need the backstory on where that 5yr old kid factors in.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 12, 2024 01:20 PM (N39Ws)

138 Oh, and climate ALWAYS changes. There is nothing we can do about that.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 12, 2024 01:20 PM (1yK0s)

139 For LIVs Democrat healthcare means it’s “free”. And who doesn’t love free stuff?

Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:20 PM (YofvK)

140 They ain't chasing ballots...

Kinko's now open 24/7

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:20 PM (Mi8Re)

141 Maybe Pixy could just add a filter that rejects any link starting with twitter.com.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 12, 2024 01:20 PM (sNc8Y)

142 101 This has been my fear for awhile. They kick Biden to the curb for age, which opens up that attack against Trump.

And I don't care who you are, you DO lose a step in your 70's and 80's.
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But when you are a Sumner Redstone, Jack Welch, Bernie Marcus, or Donald J. Trump you can lose a couple of steps and still be miles ahead of everyone else.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:20 PM (6ac8h)

143 There are just some things that I don't get, like asking which presidential candidate would be better at handling healthcare.

I mean...what? Are people imagining presidents doing surgery? Is it really just, who will keep the existing healthcare system (which everyone seems to hate) going? I thought the healthcare system was fixed with the ACA?
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The ACA accelerated the current dumpster fire that is US healthcare financing. Please note that I specify *financing*. ACA added a huge # of people to Medicaid, and added huge burdens on private medical practices, which in turn drove many MDs into the arms of big hospital systems. And it jacked up the cost of private medical insurance. It was a dream law for making Americans even more pissed off with their health coverage, costs, and desirous of the Big Government option for healthcare.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at February 12, 2024 01:21 PM (uY1j2)

144 Everybody has taken the spin bait.

Yeah it's age and not the specific dementia of Joe Biden.
Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 12:59 PM (krQz2)

Yup.
Posted by: ... at February 12, 2024 01:01 PM (oNgxs)

I should have known the horde would be hip to the media's tricks.

Posted by: LASue at February 12, 2024 01:21 PM (5nQel)

145 China's government is shoveling money at export industries and they are cutting prices. Perfect example is their solar cell and lithium battery tech. That is the real reason a lot of US planned domestic lithium battery plants from the Nude Green Eel are being scrapped. Cheap batteries from China are meeting weak demand from a shrinking EV market. Ditto electric motors and components. At the same time, computer demands aren't great, consumer electronics is flatlining, etc.

My point. The Chinese government has "invested" in some pretty shaky areas. I would not want my money invested in green tech right now. China is already HUGELY in debt (as are we) but they also have no SS system, so any investments they make are with funny money. Their lmoney supply is far higher than anything our Fed would countenance. That's why all those people invested in the RE bubble; they had nowhere else to go to prepare for retirement. It all strikes me as a recipe for civil strife.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:21 PM (CsUN+)

146 84 There is an energetic younger man in the race - RFK Jr is only 70.

Posted by: Oglebay at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (ogTiX)

+++++

This is really an occurrence that is so oddly prevalent mainly in politics. He would be long-gone if he were holding some corporate position. But, yet, here he is, and in comparison to the huge amount of geriatrics in congress, JFK seems like a youngster.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 12, 2024 01:21 PM (7YG60)

147 RFK

Posted by: washrivergal at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM (7YG60)

148 I'm gonna vote for Biden because I may need an abortion someday even though abortion is now a state issue.

I have a suspicion that abortion is one of those things that is so obviously wrong that, emotionally, supporters need it forced on a national level just to assuage their own feelings.

Every happy child or adult who would otherwise have been aborted is an extremely painful reminder of what they know to be true.

Do not try to oppose abortion. That is impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth. There is no abortion. Then you’ll see that it is not a clump of cells disposed of. It is only murder.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM (PmqP5)

149
Someone on X was commenting on his sparkly outfit walking into the stadium. I thought they were kidding, then I saw it and was WTF?

Taylor's gay clothing designer made it for him I'm sure.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM


Then someone found a picture of Michelle Obama in a dress of the same material, put the pics side by side and asked, "Who wore it better?"

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM (nIvob)

150 The people motivated by abortion though are also leftist in most other issues and given a pro-abortion Republican will still vote for the Democrat.
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You are speaking of the Fanatics, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM (Hpgos)

151 Did any mention the Joel Osteen Church Shooter was apparently a Transgender?

Back when it was straight-ish white males that were most of these thrill kill shooters the FNM asked what could be done to stop white males from hurting people.

Now that they are mostly tranny/gay/dreamers though we are back to "gotta ban those guns that are randomly shooting people"

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM (ibTVg)

152 Lakewood Church shooter a mentally-ill gender bender. Move along, nothing to see here. We may never know the motive.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 12, 2024 01:19 PM (2O0Dz)

Still need the backstory on where that 5yr old kid factors in.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 12, 2024 01:20 PM (N39Ws)

definitely- should be interesting. did the kid survive?

Posted by: LASue at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM (5nQel)

153 68 I think it's more likely "I am utterly unaware that abortion is a state issue but, if I were aware, I would still support Uncle Creepy because some people in some state in which I don't live might decide things in a way I disapprove."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:09 PM (GYIa4)

These are the same people who always say "It's not fair that California doesn't get 50 Senators."

Posted by: XTC at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM (sm6Pk)

154 84 There is an energetic younger man in the race - RFK Jr is only 70.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (ogTiX)

And he is a VERY evil man.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM (1yK0s)

155 again: Hur's report is a setup orchestrated by Barry O. to get Joey B. out of there and run a candidate w better favorables vis a vis Trump. that candidate will be Gretchen the Wretched Whitmer

Posted by: JB at February 12, 2024 01:23 PM (2jM1e)

156 113 "Did any mention the Joel Osteen Church Shooter was apparently a Transgender?"

Illegal immigrant transgender!
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (MvF+J)

________________________________

Please refer to our media package. Section 5 Line 4. White Hispanic. Domestic Terrorism. (Think I'm kidding?)

Posted by: Orson at February 12, 2024 01:23 PM (dIske)

157 Washington DC, the Soviet Politburo of the 21st Century.

Yuri, Andropov

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:23 PM (Mi8Re)

158 Poll Summary: "Joe Biden is too old to be president, but here's a raft of issues he'll be better on than Trump." That's a special kind of stupid.

Posted by: Joe Shits Himself Better at February 12, 2024 01:23 PM (UMHqX)

159 Abortion until birth is at best 1/10 voters , doesn’t stop Dem politicians from taking that position.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (a2BJE)


They don't "explicitly" take that position because they're aware of that also.

They say that's a conspiracy theory... safe, legal, rare... health of the mother... rape and incest... shouldn't be punished with a baby. The mushheads lap it up and vote for them while they are specifically voting to advance bills supporting abortion until birth.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:23 PM (GYIa4)

160 Harris as prezzy, Antony Blinken as VP. Kamala steps down sometime early in 2025.

Bingo

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (Q4IgG)

161 I think they are stuck.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 12, 2024 01:18 PM (gM8RE)

They are stuck. It's perfect justice.

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (Fk1nU)

162 e Gretchen the Wretched Whitmer
Posted by: JB at February 12, 2024 01:23 PM (2jM1e)

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I don't doubt it, I just don't understand it. She looks like a witch and seems very unlikable.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (JeYYB)

163 For LIVs Democrat healthcare means it’s “free”. And who doesn’t love free stuff?

When the lefties I know complain about the cost of healthcare I ask them why they are so greedy as to want to deny free healthcare to needy illegals instead of their own overuse of it.

And...I never get much of a response but they change the topic so...mission accomplished.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (ibTVg)

164 Anyone that cites "climate change" as to why they prefer Spongebob Shitbrains should be loaded into a trebuchet and flung into the ocean

Posted by: ballistic at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (oqH4h)

165 Election are won at the margins. Abortion at the margin is a loser politically for the GOP. There are more people who don’t want it banned than people who do want it banned.

Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (YofvK)

166 Washington DC, the Soviet Politburo of the 21st Century.

Yuri, Andropov


It's a perfect name for Biden.

Urea n' Dropoff

Get it?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (CsUN+)

167 definitely- should be interesting. did the kid survive?
Posted by: LASue at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM (5nQel)
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The kid is not expected to survive

Posted by: redridinghood at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (NpAcC)

168 Kamala/Gretchen 2024

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (Mi8Re)

169 ------------------------
The ACA accelerated the current dumpster fire that is US healthcare financing. Please note that I specify *financing*. ACA added a huge # of people to Medicaid, and added huge burdens on private medical practices, which in turn drove many MDs into the arms of big hospital systems. And it jacked up the cost of private medical insurance. It was a dream law for making Americans even more pissed off with their health coverage, costs, and desirous of the Big Government option for healthcare.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse
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One play in their playbook for socialized medicine.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM (6ac8h)

170 I'll probably start cheap, with some Federal LE overrun lots. I was happy with their gel performance. HST would be ideal but I don't think I can commit to buying a case of that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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SG Ammo did have excellent case prices on former LE ammo--They pretty much use HST or Winchester nowadays due to Remington being out of production for awhile.

Aim Surplus is another good place for trade in rotated former LE ammo in case lots. Occasionally Wideners has it as well.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM (9FrDg)

171 Lloyd Austin is thankful that Biden is his doctor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM (63Dwl)

172 I've already seen some liberal types claiming that Trump is showing signs of senility. Almost as if it's coordinated.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (4olE
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They did that when he aced the easy cognitive test that the guy who met with Hur would have to be pumped full of drugs to pass.
Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (krQz2)


As I understand it their big complaint is that Trump answered the "is this a man or a woman" question without having a degree in biology.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM (GYIa4)

173 I'm still hearing "but biden is a GOOD MAN," unlike the Bad Orange Man. I heard an old friend, a self proclaimed libertarian say that to me.

Yeah. He lives in Portland.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM (UOtXw)

174 165 Election are won at the margins. Abortion at the margin is a loser politically for the GOP. There are more people who don’t want it banned than people who do want it banned.
Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (YofvK)

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Too fucking bad. So we lose trying to save babies. It's a better way to go than compromising.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM (JeYYB)

175 Urea n' Dropoff

Get it?


Joey Bidet, "spoon!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:26 PM (Mi8Re)

176 These are the same people who always say "It's not fair that California doesn't get 50 Senators."
Posted by: XTC at February 12, 2024 01:22 PM


TBF, it's not.

Posted by: Adam Schiff at February 12, 2024 01:26 PM (8eT5z)

177 173 I'm still hearing "but biden is a GOOD MAN," unlike the Bad Orange Man. I heard an old friend, a self proclaimed libertarian say that to me.

He is not a good Man.. He is a lying grifting mean senile old fart

Posted by: It's me donna at February 12, 2024 01:26 PM (Akjoo)

178 I saw Trump in South Carolina on Saturday. He's doing just fine.

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 12, 2024 01:26 PM (Fk1nU)

179 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 12, 2024 01:26 PM (9gDA7)

180 the 14 percent who say he's not too old are also the same people who bid Peleton stock up to the stratosphere I bet.

We should start a list of things only 14% of the population thinks are a good idea.

I'll start with using downed power lines as a rope swing.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 12, 2024 01:26 PM (z/ifB)

181 Dr. Jill Biden is Lloyd Austin's physician of record?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:26 PM (Mi8Re)

182 "...but Biden leads on healthcare and climate change."

*Insert dismissive jerking off motion here*

Posted by: Azathoth at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (wb1YC)

183 > Lakewood Church shooter a mentally-ill gender bender. Move along, nothing to see here. We may never know the motive.

80 churches torched in Canada, including one in Saskatchewan a couple of days ago. Radicals are shooting up churches and church affiliated schools. It bothers me to no end the LDS Church manual #2 "prohibits" concealed carry at church. I carry anyway, but it bothers me they tell me I cannot.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (Odg76)

184 Someone on X was commenting on his sparkly outfit walking into the stadium. I thought they were kidding, then I saw it and was WTF?

--

Ah. I'm betting it was part of the agreement.

I'll let Dave Chappelle speaking to Oprah a long time ago handle this (note how uncomfortable Oprah looks).

youtube.com/watch?v=qb1WUVAtseU

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Scientists can't even figure out how many moons the Earth has at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (WF0+t)

185 "but biden is a GOOD MAN,"

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That has always been a total PR op.

He's always been a creepy asshole.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (JeYYB)

186 I'm still hearing "but biden is a GOOD MAN," unlike the Bad Orange Man. I heard an old friend, a self proclaimed libertarian say that to me.


Sure, if you ignore the treason, lying, graft, and incest.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (CsUN+)

187 173 I'm still hearing "but biden is a GOOD MAN," unlike the Bad Orange Man. I heard an old friend, a self proclaimed libertarian say that to me.
***
Sounds like the typical sharp moral discernment of a libertarian.

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (Fk1nU)

188 Russia/Ukraine war: Trump +3

Now remember the GOPe has been telling us that what "we" get out of these various budget deals is more money for Ukraine.

Looks like that's not what Republicans, OR THE ELECTORATE AS A WHOLE, want.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:13 PM (ibTVg)


I suspect that the electorate as a whole either thinks "this is a lost cause and we should stop shoveling money into the fire" or "holy shit, they're going to restart the draft and I'm going to get killed by a Russian who's waaaaay more serious about this than I am".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (GYIa4)

189 I did see where it's a really good thing that Clay Travis did by paying off the GoFundMe for Allyssa Milano's kid's baseball team so she could use any overages to take said kid to the super bowl.

All is right with the world.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (9gDA7)

190 112 I recommend not getting drunk and sitting on a couch with him late at night unless you like dick
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 12, 2024 01:11 PM (iFTx/)

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Someone on X was commenting on his sparkly outfit walking into the stadium. I thought they were kidding, then I saw it and was WTF?

Taylor's gay clothing designer made it for him I'm sure.
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (JeYYB)
_________

That was a truly ugly outfit, but he has a reputation for ugly -- and very flamey -- outfits. He's getting dressed by the flamers from Queer Eye. Probably getting something else from them too.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (iFTx/)

191 He's always been a creepy asshole.
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (JeYYB)


You forgot mediocre and corrupt.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (vDyah)

192
Mark Andrew Edwards & OR whig at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM

Guns dot com says a S&W EZ I'm looking at should be $400. My local dealer wants $475.00 - any thoughts?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (nIvob)

193 again: Hur's report is a setup orchestrated by Barry O. to get Joey B. out of there and run a candidate w better favorables vis a vis Trump. that candidate will be Gretchen the Wretched Whitmer
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She is as likable as Hillary.

I'm not seeing it.

And no f'ing way Obama is dumping his protégé for a white woman to waltz in and be handed the job-- the angry black women will raise 7 hells

People gotta know when they smoking too much weed ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (cSaKW)

194 Too fucking bad. So we lose trying to save babies. It's a better way to go than compromising.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM (JeYYB)

*nods with slight tummy bump*

Posted by: pookysgirl, believes in doing the right thing at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (dtlDP)

195
The mushheads lap it up and vote for them while they are specifically voting to advance bills supporting abortion until birth.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

__________

Or beyond. Ask any Democrat if a live birth in the course of an abortion has a right to live. You'll never get an answer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (2O0Dz)

196 Election are won at the margins. Abortion at the margin is a loser politically for the GOP. There are more people who don’t want it banned than people who do want it banned.

***

Except for the pesky fact it's not banned.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (wb1YC)

197 Did any mention the Joel Osteen Church Shooter was apparently a Transgender?
Posted by: rd at February 12, 2024 01:14 PM (eX20e)


How many is that now?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (GYIa4)

198
You forgot mediocre and corrupt.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (vDyah)

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Shit, I did.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (JeYYB)

199 Too fucking bad. So we lose trying to save babies. It's a better way to go than compromising.
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM (JeYYB)

...

Sorry dead babies. You had to die so the team that increases the national debt a tiny bit slower could win the election.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (z/ifB)

200 Anyone that cites "climate change" as to why they prefer Spongebob Shitbrains should be loaded into a trebuchet and flung into the ocean
Posted by: ballistic at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM


You realize doing that will also cause the oceans to rise, right?

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at February 12, 2024 01:29 PM (8eT5z)

201 I'm still hearing "but biden is a GOOD MAN," unlike the Bad Orange Man. I heard an old friend, a self proclaimed libertarian say that to me.

I showed a LIV that video from CSPAN where Biden pulls a little girl in front of him then when everyone is looking away starts tweaking her nipple.

The LIV said this can't be real. I pointed out it was a CSPAN video and there were no signs of editing. Then she repeated it can't be real or the media would be making a big deal about it.

And...that's what we are dealing with. If the FNM doesn't talk about it it isn't real...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:29 PM (ibTVg)

202 Just the other day radical far left Democrat Bill Kristol was bragging about how deep the Democrat bench is. Why not call someone in off the bench?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:29 PM (zssUw)

203
Power is out. Again. They're installing new poles along my road. It's also very windy today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 12, 2024 01:29 PM (2O0Dz)

204 188 I suspect that the electorate as a whole either thinks "this is a lost cause and we should stop shoveling money into the fire" or "holy shit, they're going to restart the draft and I'm going to get killed by a Russian who's waaaaay more serious about this than I am".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (GYIa4)

I don't think there'd be many tears shed over the Teen Troon Squad being turned into swiss cheese by Putin's Finest.

Posted by: XTC at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (sm6Pk)

205 Sundowner is a Fking train wreck of a leader the poll should ask

Posted by: Skip at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (fwDg9)

206 Trump has glaring flaws beyond his memory problems. He is the undisputed king of presidential mendacity; the Washington Post has estimated that he made more than 30,000 false or misleading claims during his four years in the White House.
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Because nobody can count up numbers wrong!

"estimated".

...

uh huh

So how does that bear "undisputed", moron?

See this is *exactly* what they do, they bend one piece of evidence to bend the next and the next and the next. And then it's Why are you MAGAts so crazy as to vote for this guy as WE UNDERSTAND HIM?!!

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (krQz2)

207 Lloyd Austin is thankful that Biden is his doctor.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM (63Dwl)

Someday I might pee on my own.

Posted by: Lloyd Austin at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (v0R5T)

208 192
Mark Andrew Edwards & OR whig at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM

Guns dot com says a S&W EZ I'm looking at should be $400. My local dealer wants $475.00 - any thoughts?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (nIvob)

That's in margin of error or profit margin of error. You'd have to pay shipping and FFL transfer fees to buy online. I'd ask the deal if they'll take $450. They might come down to avoid the inventory/transfer hassle.

Still a good gun and at a good price. Let me know what happens with it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (xcxpd)

209 Afternoon.

So it looks like the woman who shot up Joel Osteen's megachurch was a diehard lefty with the phrase "Free Palestine" written on her rifle.

https://instapundit.com/631794/

Posted by: Robert at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (wN4ER)

210 @4

>>Classified documents Biden +10

The cherry on top of that is that the SC has tape from Biden's biographer, wherein The Meat Puppet is talking to his biographer specifically about information for a passage in the book that is classified, he tells him he has to go downstairs to get the classified documents, he goes downstairs to retrieve the classified documents and then tells the biographer, literally and on tape, here are the classified documents I was talking about, and then begins reading off the information to the biographer who does not have any clearance and of which Biden does not have nor ever had at the time the ability to declassify.

It's all a sick joke.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (rc3Z7)

211 Dirty Boulevard by Lou Reed is a much more relevant song now than when it was released.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (gxokI)

212 My point. The Chinese government has "invested" in some pretty shaky areas. I would not want my money invested in green tech right now. China is already HUGELY in debt (as are we) but they also have no SS system, so any investments they make are with funny money. Their lmoney supply is far higher than anything our Fed would countenance. That's why all those people invested in the RE bubble; they had nowhere else to go to prepare for retirement. It all strikes me as a recipe for civil strife.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Could be but aging population makes it less likely. More likely to get something like a worse version of Japan's economic malaise lasting decades.

I think part of the equation of the EU/US on encouraging open borders is the desperation to avoid a long deflationary period for the West which would rival the Great Depression in impact. So you get the governments playing all sorts of games to hide the decline.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (9FrDg)

213 Felonious von Pantsuit was giving a speech and someone from the audience called her a War Criminal.

And the Stupor Bowl foot washing ad, even the Soviet Justice Wanking Brigades are recoiling from it calling it names.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (Mi8Re)

214 I've got relatives that are effectively younger than Biden.

Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (MB784)

215 Every time Joe Biden has called Jan 6 an "insurrection" is a *lie* disputed by the simple facts.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:31 PM (krQz2)

216 197 Did any mention the Joel Osteen Church Shooter was apparently a Transgender?
Posted by: rd at February 12, 2024 01:14 PM (eX20e)

How many is that now?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (GYIa4)

*MKULTRA has left the chat*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:31 PM (xcxpd)

217 "...but Biden leads on healthcare and climate change."

And he's unbeatable on "gender-affirming "care""! (yeah, had to double up on the quotes)

Posted by: t-bird at February 12, 2024 01:31 PM (4Ld2L)

218 >>>> It bothers me to no end the LDS Church manual #2 "prohibits" concealed carry at church. I carry anyway, but it bothers me they tell me I cannot.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2024 01:27 PM (Odg76)
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Sad fact, one of the, at one time, more conservative religious groups in America has done a 180.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:31 PM (6ac8h)

219 Guns dot com says a S&W EZ I'm looking at should be $400. My local dealer wants $475.00 - any thoughts?

Support your local dealer if you can. If $75 is a deal breaker, ask if he can split the difference with you.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 12, 2024 01:31 PM (sNc8Y)

220 >>> The left is trying to capture the narrative with the "too old" narrative so they can ensnare Trump in the same trap.
Posted by: LASue at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (5nQel)


I remember when the left brought the whole "metoo" thing into existence as a way to harm orangemanbad. The whole thing was about typical scuzzy creepy leftist power brokers. But they were aiming at Trump.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 12, 2024 01:31 PM (CPrGm)

221 Biden wouldn't be a good man if you duct taped him to Miki Rowe.

"Hi! I'm a libertarian! I'm a free thinker! Watch as I regale you with my political opinions, 2/3 of which come from the media."

Posted by: Azathoth at February 12, 2024 01:32 PM (wb1YC)

222 Guns dot com says a S&W EZ I'm looking at should be $400. My local dealer wants $475.00 - any thoughts?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM


Buy something in .45 ACP.

Posted by: J. Random Gun Thread Participant at February 12, 2024 01:32 PM (8eT5z)

223 All news reports of the Lakewood church shooter refer to him as a woman.

What is a woman?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 12, 2024 01:32 PM (KiBMU)

224
Still a good gun and at a good price. Let me know what happens with it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM


Okay, thanks. I'll see if I can get a discount for cash.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:32 PM (nIvob)

225 It's all a sick joke.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (rc3Z7)
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Yet all of it can and will be ignored by Congress.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:32 PM (krQz2)

226 Someone on X was commenting on his sparkly outfit walking into the stadium. I thought they were kidding, then I saw it and was WTF?

Taylor's gay clothing designer made it for him I'm sure.
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (JeYYB)


I guess the real question is, was he gay before he got all the Pfizer shots?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:32 PM (GYIa4)

227 Trump needs to leak out a recent porn tape with Melania bent over a balcony at Mara Lago.

Posted by: pawn at February 12, 2024 01:33 PM (hw6IV)

228 Ouch:

Jesse Kelly
@JesseKellyDC 1h

Stay frosty out there. Today it was Joel Osteen's church. Tomorrow it could be a house of worship.

Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:33 PM (bhRsz)

229 Barky was right, the rat bastard changed the country

Posted by: Skip at February 12, 2024 01:33 PM (fwDg9)

230 Just remember kiddies

The media called Reagan an old man.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:33 PM (Mi8Re)

231 Healthcare: Biden +10
Classified documents: Biden +10

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Gaze upon the awesome power of message control.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:33 PM (yjAVs)

232 If you look at that poll as a poker hand, everyone would take Trump’s hand over Biden’s. Trump is holding kings and aces to Biden’s twos and threes.

It’s not even close, even if you consider Abortion a wild card.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 12, 2024 01:33 PM (a2BJE)

233 Also, remember that if you buy online you will probably have to eat shipping and the FFL fee at your end. Include that in the calculation.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 12, 2024 01:33 PM (sNc8Y)

234 Jesse Kelly
@JesseKellyDC 1h

Stay frosty out there. Today it was Joel Osteen's church. Tomorrow it could be a house of worship.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:33 PM (bhRsz)

lol

and truth

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:33 PM (xcxpd)

235 Trump has glaring flaws beyond his memory problems. He is the undisputed king of presidential mendacity; the Washington Post has estimated that he made more than 30,000 false or misleading claims during his four years in the White House.

Last time I looked into the "false" claims generally feel into the following categories

1) Jokes
2) Exaggerations
3) Statements where the FNM are the ones actually lying

The left will often pretend jokes are delivered seriously...remember the speech where Trump called on Putin to release Hillary's illegally scrubbed emails?

I guess #2 could be "lies" but...Trump is the only one that ever gets hit with that.

And frankly the FNM lies constantly so #3 is a large category...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:34 PM (ibTVg)

236 LA Times: Column: Biden’s memory is failing. So is Trump’s. The question is whose flaws are more dangerous. During the 2020 campaign, Trump publicly charged that Biden, then only 77, was suffering from “dementia.” The insult didn’t stick...

But the dementia did.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:34 PM (GYIa4)

237 208 192
Mark Andrew Edwards & OR whig at February 12, 2024 01:25 PM

Guns dot com says a S&W EZ I'm looking at should be $400. My local dealer wants $475.00 - any thoughts?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:28 PM (nIvob)
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When you make that purchase go ahead and buy their neat little semi-auto carbine for a mate.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:34 PM (6ac8h)

238 re: Kelce's clothing choices...

So Ru Paul dresses better?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:34 PM (Mi8Re)

239 If you look at that poll as a poker hand, everyone would take Trump’s hand over Biden’s. Trump is holding kings and aces to Biden’s twos and threes.


Pretty sure Biden has more then a pair of queens supporting him

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:35 PM (ibTVg)

240 Sorry, that should have read Mike Rowe, not Miki Rowe. My phone apparently has the best voice to text software a low bidder H-1B can create.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 12, 2024 01:35 PM (wb1YC)

241 I think the tell right now is that the Dems are somewhat conceding the White House. They began "kidproofing" it just last month by instilling legislation to make it nearly impossible to pull out of NATO....and just yesterday McConnell had proposed legislation passed that provided hard cash to Ukraine and pulling it in the next term would result in automatic Impeachment.

The strategy seems to be to make it impossible to accomplish anything of merit without triggering repercussions both legally and institutionally.

Posted by: Orson at February 12, 2024 01:35 PM (dIske)

242 86% of Americans consider Biden too old for another term, with 62% expressing the same about Trump.
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Too old? Yes. I am worried about age for both of them, as I am worried about age for more or less everyone in that age group when they have serious responsibilities.

But age can be offset - at least to a point - by two things:
1. Competence
2. Succession planning

Biden has neither. Trump has the first (though I think it isn't as good as his first time 'round, but objectively I think Trump still has "it") and we'll see about the second.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:35 PM (yjAVs)

243 All Troons are male-to-female. Even the ones born female.

You want to win public opinion? You have to ratchet up the disgust.

So they all need to be classified as the more disgusting version, every time.

Posted by: XTC at February 12, 2024 01:35 PM (sm6Pk)

244 > Stay frosty out there. Today it was Joel Osteen's church. Tomorrow it could be a house of worship.

Heh.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2024 01:35 PM (Odg76)

245 >>Classified documents Biden +10

The cherry on top of that is that the SC has tape from Biden's biographer, wherein The Meat Puppet is talking to his biographer specifically about information for a passage in the book that is classified, he tells him he has to go downstairs to get the classified documents, he goes downstairs to retrieve the classified documents and then tells the biographer, literally and on tape, here are the classified documents I was talking about, and then begins reading off the information to the biographer who does not have any clearance and of which Biden does not have nor ever had at the time the ability to declassify.

It's all a sick joke.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (rc3Z7)

+++++

He's too old and rickety to have known what he was doing. Ha8er.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 12, 2024 01:35 PM (7YG60)

246 So looking at those poll preferences what I'm seeing is that every single thing most voters really care about...
Immigration
Crime
Economy
Inflation
Wars
Trump has a huge margin.

Stuff that only idiots and democrats care about...
Abortion
Climate change
Are all biden.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 12, 2024 01:35 PM (cRrcX)

247 I'm still hearing "but biden is a GOOD MAN," unlike the Bad Orange Man. I heard an old friend, a self proclaimed libertarian say that to me.

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Illustrating the value of your average libertarian.

Yes, Mr. Everybody's Got To Take A Shot is more GOOD than a guy who just wants to take a bow because he delivered the thing that everybody said could open the country back up in record time.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:35 PM (krQz2)

248 LA Times: Column: Biden’s memory is failing. So is Trump’s. The question is whose flaws are more dangerous. During the 2020 campaign, Trump publicly charged that Biden, then only 77, was suffering from “dementia.” The insult didn’t stick

Do they have examples of Trump's memory loss?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:36 PM (zssUw)

249 The cherry on top of that is that the SC has tape from Biden's biographer, wherein The Meat Puppet is talking to his biographer specifically about information for a passage in the book that is classified, he tells him he has to go downstairs to get the classified documents, he goes downstairs to retrieve the classified documents and then tells the biographer, literally and on tape, here are the classified documents I was talking about, and then begins reading off the information to the biographer who does not have any clearance and of which Biden does not have nor ever had at the time the ability to declassify.

It's all a sick joke.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (rc3Z7)


——-

So his “aides did it, I didn’t know what was in those boxes “ excuse is a lie. Doesn’t that mean he lied to the prosecutor, which, IIRC, is obstruction of justice.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 12, 2024 01:36 PM (a2BJE)

250 Pretty sure Biden has more then a pair of queens supporting him

They rehired Sam Brinton?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:36 PM (Mi8Re)

251 Guns dot com says a S&W EZ I'm looking at should be $400. My local dealer wants $475.00 - any thoughts?
Posted by: Divide by Zero
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Might also want to take a look at the S&W Equalizer as it has higher capacity (10,13, and15 round mags) and ez to rack as well. Already has the cut in the slide for mounting red dot. Also has both a grip safety and can be had either with a manual safety or not.

I would do as MAE suggest though and see if the local dealer will compromise a bit on price or throw in something like a holster, extra mags, etc.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:37 PM (9FrDg)

252 We've all had dealings with the elderly, and seen how fast they can go downhill.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2024 01:15 PM (xaFKb)


Fair point.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:17 PM (bhRsz)


I suspect that argument will carry water with some portion of the electorate desperately seeking an excuse to vote for NotTrump.

Most of these arguments end up being nothing more that trying to give people an excuse to do whatever they've already decided.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:37 PM (GYIa4)

253 LA Times: Column: Biden’s memory is failing. So is Trump’s. The question is whose flaws are more dangerous. During the 2020 campaign, Trump publicly charged that Biden, then only 77, was suffering from “dementia.” The insult didn’t stick ...
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:36 PM (zssUw)
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Huh. So the LAT is working from the standpoint of, "it *will* be one of these two, so pick the dotard of our preference."

Set aside any objective merits of any of the claims, that is the argument.

America, baby.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:37 PM (yjAVs)

254
But PredictIt has Biden up by 20%!!!!!!

*RIP Intrade*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 12, 2024 01:37 PM (n+4am)

255 Election are won at the margins. Abortion at the margin is a loser politically for the GOP. There are more people who don’t want it banned than people who do want it banned.
Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (YofvK

Going with the majority is definitely how we should decide positions. It worked for Romney and McCain!!

Posted by: ... at February 12, 2024 01:37 PM (oNgxs)

256 Now THAT'S a Wall: Egypt Shows Biden How to Secure a Border

http://tinyurl.com/3kbdw9fz

I don't know why they bothered, since we all know walls don't work.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:37 PM (CsUN+)

257 "Oh Miki you so fine you blow my mind."

Kinda changes the implications

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:38 PM (Mi8Re)

258
Hey, that's MY schtick, jackwagon....

Posted by: In before the troll at February 12, 2024 01:38 PM (n+4am)

259 "...the Washington Post has estimated..."

**

"My astrologer said..."

Same energy.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 12, 2024 01:39 PM (wb1YC)

260 Apropos:

http://tinyurl.com/47zzx7ju

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 12, 2024 01:39 PM (t/2Uw)

261 Has Joe ever been able to remember the circumstances of Beau's death?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:39 PM (zssUw)

262 This leggy brunette in short shorts does not look forward to the unfolding "dotard wars" in the press:
http://tiny.cc/y0erwz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:39 PM (yjAVs)

263 I would think that Biden is a loser, but how does the DNC sell someone with less name recognition, who will follow the same WEF policies that put us in this financial hole, and do it without primaries? I think they are stuck.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 12, 2024 01:18 PM (gM8RE)


DNC: Vote for NotJoeBiden. There's no proof xhe's either evil or demented and xhe'll ensure that our sacrament of murdering the unborn remains in tact.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (GYIa4)

264 I think the tell right now is that the Dems are somewhat conceding the White House. They began "kidproofing" it just last month by instilling legislation to make it nearly impossible to pull out of NATO....and just yesterday McConnell had proposed legislation passed that provided hard cash to Ukraine and pulling it in the next term would result in automatic Impeachment.


Nonsense. This Congress can pass anything they want, but the next Congress can revoke it.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (CsUN+)

265 We've all had dealings with the elderly, and seen how fast they can go downhill.

At least 35 mph if you push their wheelchair down a steep enough hill.

Posted by: Republicans Trying to Kill Grandma at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (UMHqX)

266 I don't know why they bothered, since we all know walls don't work.

Especially since DNA tests show Hamas terrorists possess about 26% tunnel rat DNA.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (Mi8Re)

267
Where is abortion "banned"? Is a restriction now a "ban"?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (2O0Dz)

268 BREAKING

Elon Musk @elonmusk
This is insane

J.D. Vance @JDVance1
I just sent the below memo to every one of my Republican colleagues in Congress.

Buried in the bill’s text is an impeachment time bomb for the next Trump presidency if he tries to stop funding the war in Ukraine.

We must vote against this disastrous bill.

http://tinyurl.com/d3ec4866
Screencap of the highlighted bill text.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (2yu8s)

269 >>>> There are more people who don’t want it banned than people who do want it banned.
Posted by: Montec
-------------------

Conjecture stated as fact is bs.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (6ac8h)

270
Do they have examples of Trump's memory loss?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:36 PM (zssUw)


He forgot he incited rebellion and had hookers pee on a bed

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (D7oie)

271 Last time I looked into the "false" claims generally feel into the following categories

1) Jokes
2) Exaggerations
3) Statements where the FNM are the ones actually lying

The left will often pretend jokes are delivered seriously...remember the speech where Trump called on Putin to release Hillary's illegally scrubbed emails?

I guess #2 could be "lies" but...Trump is the only one that ever gets hit with that.

And frankly the FNM lies constantly so #3 is a large category...
Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:34 PM (ibTVg)
---
You forgot a *big* category that I found in various allegations of "lying".

-> Things without proof (or that the press could find an expert to differ with).

I remember when Cruz got a Pants on Fire rating from Politifacture because there could be paraphrased as "I can quote a legal expert that disagrees with him."

Biden says plenty of things without proof. Nancy Pelosi alleged that Jan 6 was "worse than 9/11" without proof.

They've just never tried to count anybody else on the same scale.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:41 PM (krQz2)

272 And the Stupor Bowl foot washing ad, even the Soviet Justice Wanking Brigades are recoiling from it calling it names.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:30 PM (Mi8Re)
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Foot washing ad?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 12, 2024 01:41 PM (0gvpA)

273 Has Joe ever been able to remember the circumstances of Beau's death?

It's hard to know exactly what happened when the Titan submersible imploded.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:41 PM (CsUN+)

274 262 This leggy brunette in short shorts does not look forward to the unfolding "dotard wars" in the press:
http://tiny.cc/y0erwz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:39 PM (yjAVs)

Not sure I'd use the term "leggy", but would overlook and bang.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 12, 2024 01:41 PM (wtvvX)

275 Why isn't there a neverJoe movement?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:41 PM (zssUw)

276 Has Joe ever been able to remember the circumstances of Beau's death?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:39 PM (zssUw)
++++
Once upon a time, probably.

The contemporary problem is that Beau's death has become all things in all scenarios for political purposes. War? Beau's death. Environmental issues? Beau's death. Automobile safety? Beau's death. Economy? Beau's death.

Biden has been flogging his son's death for so long and in so many contexts that the persistent use of the example, combined with Biden's increasing dementia, probably means that Biden no longer knows the reality at all. He isn't lying anymore. He literally no longer knows and cannot know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (yjAVs)

277 Nonsense. This Congress can pass anything they want, but the next Congress can revoke it.

Well, so far all of the things they’re pulling out of the purview of the President are part of the status quo that the GOP supports. So the next Congress can revoke it, but they won’t.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (PmqP5)

278 262 This leggy brunette in short shorts does not look forward to the unfolding "dotard wars" in the press:
http://tiny.cc/y0erwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:39 PM (yjAVs)

Oh yeah.

Nice hair and shoulders too. Those shoes look painful to walk in but...they aren't for walking in, are they?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (xcxpd)

279 Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok
BREAKING: The Lakewood Church shooter was transgender. He went by the name “Genesse” and previously “Jeffrey.”

Another act of trans terrorism. We need to have a national conversation about the LGBTQ movement turning youth into violent extremists.

http://tinyurl.com/4xu5rddm
photo etc.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (2yu8s)

280 This leggy brunette in short shorts does not look forward to the unfolding "dotard wars" in the press:

Dang, those shoes look uncomfortable.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (CsUN+)

281 In other news, Pretty Poppy is suffering some verbal abuse from her sister Resting Bitch Face (I forget her name), who is showing off her surprisingly nice figure in a tight white silky dress.

Meanwhile, Pretty Poppy's daughter, Leggy Luna, woke up naked in Zealous Xendi's bed, and has no clue if she banged him.

Yeah, she's a dummy.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 12, 2024 01:43 PM (ufFY8)

282 Rod Serling enters from stage left looking suave and coolly smoking.

"Imagine if you will, two political factions locked in mortal combat trying to remove the President of the United States while needing to keep him as their figurehead leader. You have crossed into the Twilight Zone."

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:43 PM (Mi8Re)

283 J.D. Vance @JDVance1
...
Buried in the bill’s text is an impeachment time bomb for the next Trump presidency if he tries to stop funding the war in Ukraine.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (2yu8s)
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Ah, now that they have created the Executive Discretion monster, they don't want their baby, the Ukraine (Bush) war, rended by it.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:43 PM (krQz2)

284 269 Conjecture stated as fact is bs.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (6ac8h)

Also, if those people were bullied hard enough, they'd have no choice but to fall in line.

It's not like they have the guns.

Posted by: XTC at February 12, 2024 01:43 PM (sm6Pk)

285 Just imagine 'ol Spongebrain with a spatula, flipping Abortopatties on Hell's grill.

Posted by: Squiward at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (Zz86T)

286 Colorado Springs shooter: nonbinary
Nashville school shooter: trans
Aberdeen shooter: trans
Denver school shooter: trans
Iowa school shooter: trans/genderfluid
Lakewood Church shooter: trans

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (t/2Uw)

287 Mannix, I will take your leggy brunette in the daisy dukes and raise you a leggy blond who is ready to go bust some clays

https://is.gd/2SXS6U

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (D7oie)

288 Nonsense. This Congress can pass anything they want, but the next Congress can revoke it.
---
Like Obamacare!

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (krQz2)

289
Those shoes look painful to walk in but...they aren't for walking in, are they?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (xcxpd)



I think they're meant to be waved in the air after donning them....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (n+4am)

290 Nice hair and shoulders too. Those shoes look painful to walk in but...they aren't for walking in, are they?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM


Of course not. She has boots made for that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (YgIxk)

291 >>> 111
==
Several years ago, I asked Biden what strategy he relied on to bounce back from a gaffe.

"Own it," he said. The question isn't whose aging memory is sharper. It's whose flaws are more dangerous.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 12, 2024 01:16 PM (JCZqz)

TRUMPARFSIZALFSVMODSCNINVUBURE!!!

*falls over*

Hey, which one of you fats put this sandbag in my way?!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (llON8)

292
Foot washing ad?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 12, 2024 01:41 PM


You didn't see that? Apparently Jesus is waiting to wash your feet outside of abortion clinics.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (nIvob)

293 Sad fact, one of the, at one time, more conservative religious groups in America has done a 180.
Posted by: Braenyard

The Mormon church would do well to look at their history, and how they were treated by the Federal government.

Posted by: Military Moron at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (JCZqz)

294 Has Joe ever been able to remember the circumstances of Beau's death?

It's hard to know exactly what happened when the Titan submersible imploded.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:41 PM (CsUN+)


*golf clap*

Posted by: Dr. T at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (bhRsz)

295 Trump said that the stock market had gone up x points since his election. The media said he didn't take office until January 20 so the period from election day until inauguration day, so he was lying.

But what Trump actually said was 100% true.

Posted by: blaster at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (IFNME)

296 Biden has been flogging his son's death for so long and

Beau died from FJB's excessive flogging.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (ufFY8)

297
Nonsense. This Congress can pass anything they want, but the next Congress can revoke it.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (CsUN+)

But Zelensky fanboys like you love it

Posted by: GOP sux at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (Zzbjj)

298 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (yjAVs)

Beau is Narrative and nothing more. The more people are reminded about Beau the less they think about Hunter.

Like everything else, Beau is not coming from Joe. Much as our side likes to think it is.

Posted by: ... at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (oNgxs)

299 My favorite thing about the fallout from the IG report is Biden insisting that he remembers when Beau died...without ever saying when it is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

300 287 Mannix, I will take your leggy brunette in the daisy dukes and raise you a leggy blond who is ready to go bust some clays

https://is.gd/2SXS6U

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (D7oie)

Would bang-bang.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (wtvvX)

301 MA "Department of Children and Families" mandates clot shots for babies.

http://tiny.cc/wxerwz

Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (Odg76)

302 Doesn't matter. Biden isn't running.

I am constantly amazed how people think on such a linear fashion. Democrats are about power and ruling. They know Biden is a loser. What would you do if you were committed to staying in power and had no limits?

Posted by: Thor's Pimp Hand at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (VuXjN)

303 Election are won at the margins. Abortion at the margin is a loser politically for the GOP. There are more people who don’t want it banned than people who do want it banned.
Posted by: Montec at February 12, 2024 01:24 PM (YofvK)


I don't think most places have banned it or are planning on banning it. The trouble with your argument is that it leads to "we just need to ease things up a bit" which eventually leads to "if they haven't graduated HS yet, fair game".

And before you poopoo the slippery slope argument, consider gay marriage and the fact that Democrats have already passed abortion until birth and, I believe, in one case saying that a mother cannot be prosecuted for a baby under six weeks dying of neglect.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (GYIa4)

304 It is not his age in years that bothers me it is his:

1) Increasing Dementia
2) Wrong on every foreign / domestic policy
3) Lying
4) Corruption spanning decades
5) Compromised re: corrupt foreign/domestic actions
6) Being an all around POS

Posted by: Cheri at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (oiNtH)

305 302 Doesn't matter. Biden isn't running.

I am constantly amazed how people think on such a linear fashion. Democrats are about power and ruling. They know Biden is a loser. What would you do if you were committed to staying in power and had no limits?
Posted by: Thor's Pimp Hand at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (VuXjN)

======

Call up the major cities in six states and tell them to report 200% turnout?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

306 You didn't see that? Apparently Jesus is waiting to wash your feet outside of abortion clinics.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (nIvob)
------------
Huh.

And you're assuming that I actually watch commercial television.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (0gvpA)

307 As seen on Facebook:

Don't let Trump cheat. Demand photo ID and in person voting!


😂😂😂

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (G8h7g)

308 http://tiny.cc/y0erwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:39 PM (yjAVs)

Delicious thighs...

Posted by: Robert at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (wN4ER)

309 Mannix, I will take your leggy brunette in the daisy dukes and raise you a leggy blond who is ready to go bust some clays

https://is.gd/2SXS6U
Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (D7oie)
++++
Nice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (yjAVs)

310 ...>>>>>>>>>>>...that the persistent use of the example, combined with Biden's increasing dementia, probably means that Biden no longer knows the reality at all. He isn't lying anymore. He literally no longer knows and cannot know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
-------------------

Which indicates that he can be removed from office without him knowing. Or in a manner that will not get his Irish up.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:47 PM (6ac8h)

311 246 So looking at those poll preferences what I'm seeing is that every single thing most voters really care about...
Immigration
Crime
Economy
Inflation
Wars
Trump has a huge margin.

Stuff that only idiots and democrats care about...
Abortion
Climate change
Are all biden.
Posted by: Madamemayhem
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There is something called issue salience (aka importance) to voters. Single issue voters like on firearms and abortion are a relatively small proportion of voters. Most voters weigh the variety of issues and war (UKR and HamAss)/economy have historically been right up there. Immigration is probably replacing Covid in 2024 as the most important temporal issue.

I think Gallup runs a poll annually about what are the top ten? problems viewed by the public since the 50's. That allows respondents to rank the problems and has been pretty good tell about what the public wants fixed.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:47 PM (9FrDg)

312 What is a woman?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 12, 2024 01:32 PM (KiBMU)


apparently someone who is willing to murder strangers. I hate modern definitions.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2024 01:47 PM (D7oie)

313 Last time I looked into the "false" claims generally feel into the following categories

1) Jokes
2) Exaggerations
3) Statements where the FNM are the ones actually lying
---
They also count each time he says what they claim is false as another lie.
Thus, each time he says in a campaign speech, "the Russian collusion hoax" that is counted as another lie.
"Fake new" that's another lie.
"Sleepy Joe" counted as a lie.
"Crooked Hillary" is another lie.
Etc., etc.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 12, 2024 01:47 PM (cSaKW)

314 You forgot a *big* category that I found in various allegations of "lying".

-> Things without proof (or that the press could find an expert to differ with).


I was generally including them under the category of "the FNM are the ones lying".

For example I bet you that claiming COVID came out of the Wuhan lab is still counted as a lie...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:47 PM (ibTVg)

315 You didn't see that? Apparently Jesus is waiting to wash your feet outside of abortion clinics.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (nIvob)

I saw that.
I was confused.
But I didn't catch whose feet He was washing.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 12, 2024 01:47 PM (ufFY8)

316 So his “aides did it, I didn’t know what was in those boxes “ excuse is a lie. Doesn’t that mean he lied to the prosecutor, which, IIRC, is obstruction of justice.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 12, 2024 01:36 PM (a2BJE)
---
Those silly aides. They later took boxes from the house to Joe's office at UPenn!!

What characters!

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (krQz2)

317 Screencap of the highlighted bill text.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 12, 2024 01:40 PM (2yu8s)

=====

I don't get this. Impeachments need votes. They aren't automatic.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (DRSnL)

318 Buried in the bill’s text is an impeachment time bomb for the next Trump presidency if he tries to stop funding the war in Ukraine.

...

Constitutional or no? Can the legislature prescribe punishment for the executive branch if the executive branch does not perform to certain criteria?

Posted by: TexasDan at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (z/ifB)

319 I am but a clay man.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (6ac8h)

320
Biden has been flogging his son's death for so long and in so many contexts that the persistent use of the example, combined with Biden's increasing dementia, probably means that Biden no longer knows the reality at all. He isn't lying anymore. He literally no longer knows and cannot know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (yjAVs)

++++

Agree. This is why he could not remember the day of Beau's death or even the year. He has used the causes of Beau's demise in so many circumstances and scenarios that now he is stumped.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (7YG60)

321 >>> 286 Colorado Springs shooter: nonbinary
Nashville school shooter: trans
Aberdeen shooter: trans
Denver school shooter: trans
Iowa school shooter: trans/genderfluid
Lakewood Church shooter: trans
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (t/2Uw)

But it's *embarrassing* to suggest that the same Eff.Bee.EYE which is baffled by crimes committed by the geniuses in klantifa might possibly be turning a blind eye to warning signs from these nutcases before they commit their murders, let alone say, encouraging them to Fight Back Against White Supremacists Who Are Totes The Most Dangerous Threat Ever.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (llON8)

322 https://is.gd/2SXS6U

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2024 01:44 PM (D7oie)

Licks palms

Posted by: Robert at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (wN4ER)

323 Doesn't matter. Biden isn't running.

I am constantly amazed how people think on such a linear fashion. Democrats are about power and ruling. They know Biden is a loser.

What would you do if you were committed to staying in power and had no limits?
Posted by: Thor's Pimp Hand


Doesn't matter since that addled goon isn't governing. The kink is rubbing your nose in it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (G8h7g)

324 @283

Well, what's unstated is that the Uniparty have now transformed the a locale eastern European land dispute into another US MIC Forever war.

If Trump is elected, he wont' assume power until January of 25 and if they are intending to setup an impeachment trap going forward, that means they don't plan on ending funding for Ukraine.

Warmongering bastards, the whole lot of them.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (rc3Z7)

325 275 Why isn't there a neverJoe movement?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:41 PM (zssUw)


It will take more than a few nationally-known Democrats to be first to stop applauding Dear Leader, or the mere speaking of his name. Not enough ready to do so yet to provide adequate safety in numbers from The Media.

Posted by: Gref at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (5fDan)

326 This leggy brunette in short shorts does not look forward to the unfolding "dotard wars" in the press:
http://tiny.cc/y0erwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......


right foot is deformed

Posted by: wth at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (v0R5T)

327 >>> 310 ...>>>>>>>>>>>...that the persistent use of the example, combined with Biden's increasing dementia, probably means that Biden no longer knows the reality at all. He isn't lying anymore. He literally no longer knows and cannot know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
-------------------

Which indicates that he can be removed from office without him knowing. Or in a manner that will not get his Irish up.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:47 PM (6ac8h)

I'm watching you people!!!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at February 12, 2024 01:49 PM (llON8)

328 NOOD shooter

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 12, 2024 01:49 PM (u8Ce0)

329 I saw Trump in South Carolina on Saturday. He's doing just fine.
Posted by: Ordinary American at February 12, 2024 01:26 PM (Fk1nU)


But at some point in the next five years he COULD go downhill mentally. That's why we need to replace him with someone younger who, in the next five years, could have a stroke or massive heart attack or go senile at a younger age.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 12, 2024 01:49 PM (GYIa4)

330 For example I bet you that claiming COVID came out of the Wuhan lab is still counted as a lie...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:47 PM (ibTVg)
---
That number 30K has been around for a long, long while, so I'm thinking that the criteria count was roach motel.

Posted by: Axeman at February 12, 2024 01:49 PM (krQz2)

331 [iMA "Department of Children and Families" mandates clot shots for babies in DCF custody.

http://tiny.cc/wxerwz
Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM

Still evil, though.

*continues looking at NH real estate*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 12, 2024 01:49 PM (YgIxk)

332 What is a woman?

I saw a debate that had Michael Knowles vs three feminists.

The question "what is a woman" came up. One feminist refused to answer and made it clear she was afraid to.

The other two agreed that trans-women are women. But there are multiple categories of women and trans-women aren't the same as women-women but they were women and anyone that disagrees is a bigot.

The word salad was amazing...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 12, 2024 01:49 PM (ibTVg)

333 318 Constitutional or no? Can the legislature prescribe punishment for the executive branch if the executive branch does not perform to certain criteria?
Posted by: TexasDan at February 12, 2024 01:48 PM (z/ifB)

If they've got a judge willing to play along, they can.

Will To Power.

Posted by: XTC at February 12, 2024 01:49 PM (sm6Pk)

334 279 Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok
BREAKING: The Lakewood Church shooter was transgender. He went by the name “Genesse” and previously “Jeffrey.”
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (2yu8s)

Oh, no. NO WAY. NONONONONO do not even start to think it.

Posted by: Genesee Brewing Company at February 12, 2024 01:49 PM (z+89e)

335 Lakewood Church shooter trans (still unclear which way), Bernie supporter, Free Palestine on rifle, a "migrant" fromEl Salvador.

Story status: disappeared.

Posted by: blaster at February 12, 2024 01:50 PM (IFNME)

336 Pretty lousy on the messaging when you can't convince most of the public that a Senator keeping classified docs in his garage and sharing that info with whomever he pleases is worse at handling classified docs than a guy who was President with such clearance and had them under lock and key deep within his house.

Posted by: Deseret Rebel at February 12, 2024 01:50 PM (PJaTp)

337 GOP sux at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (Zzbjj)

Wow, good one.
*rolls eyes*

Posted by: Archimedes at February 12, 2024 01:50 PM (CsUN+)

338 Would someone please explain to me why "abortion" is an issue on which people are polled?

It's utterly barbaric to make killing babies a push-poll topic.

If we're going to have the snuffing out of human life be legal - and tolerate the moral depravity it's emblematic of - can't we at least pretend it's not one of the most important issues facing the country?

Posted by: the other coyote at February 12, 2024 01:50 PM (2ByD4)

339 My favorite thing about the fallout from the IG report is Biden insisting that he remembers when Beau died...without ever saying when it is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

...

He's two dead brain cells away delivering the from the "wait Beau is dead" punchline.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 12, 2024 01:50 PM (z/ifB)

340
And you're assuming that I actually watch commercial television.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM


I saw parts of it on X. Apparently it was a Super Bowl ad which is highly objectionable to Christians.

You didn't miss anything. Just some foot washing at different locations.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:50 PM (nIvob)

341 So who is running the Department of Defense right now?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:51 PM (Mi8Re)

342 310 ...>>>>>>>>>>>...that the persistent use of the example, combined with Biden's increasing dementia, probably means that Biden no longer knows the reality at all. He isn't lying anymore. He literally no longer knows and cannot know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Dunno, going through the dementia thing with a close relative and that relative has good days and bad days. Plus, vascular dementia (common in stroke patients), which is something that Joe has, produces different symptoms and outcomes than Alzheimers. People with both as my relative does, don't have as predictable prognosis as to separate the effects and longevity in any particular stage of dementia. They can be stuck at a phase literally for years.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:51 PM (9FrDg)

343 Constitutional or no? Can the legislature prescribe punishment for the executive branch if the executive branch does not perform to certain criteria?
Posted by: TexasDan


If ex post facto is unconstitutional, pre post facto is also.

You can't put in a bill that the president has to do xxx or he's impeached.

Especially when he's not president yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2024 01:52 PM (G8h7g)

344 so far all of the things they’re pulling out of the purview of the President are part of the status quo that the GOP supports. So the next Congress can revoke it, but they won’t.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

GOP Rep 1- Oh, no...we were surprised by a moderate switch vote at the last second!

GOP Rep 2- We need more donations to expand our majority so we have a buffer to accommodate for Reps in moderate districts.

GOP Senator 1 on weekend talk circuit- We can't guarantee legislation with only three-fifths of four-sevenths of government! There are institutions and traditions to uphold!

Posted by: 2025 Failure theater first script reading at February 12, 2024 01:52 PM (JCZqz)

345 [iMA "Department of Children and Families" mandates clot shots for babies in DCF custody.

http://tiny.cc/wxerwz
Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2024 01:46 PM

...

And they could easily decide to take custody of any babies whose parents don't want to give them the shot.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 12, 2024 01:52 PM (z/ifB)

346 You didn't see that? Apparently Jesus is waiting to wash your feet outside of abortion clinics.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (nIvob)


Yeah, well, think of what they track out of those places.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2024 01:53 PM (D7oie)

347 Classified documents is a topic, but Chinese fentanyl isn't. Strange choices.

Posted by: Roy at February 12, 2024 01:53 PM (z+ik4)

348 BREAKING: The Lakewood Church shooter was transgender. He went by the name “Genesse” and previously “Jeffrey.”

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 12, 2024 01:42 PM (2yu8s)

I think it was the opposite of that. A girl that changed to jeff.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 12, 2024 01:53 PM (Y6IkP)

349 343 If ex post facto is unconstitutional, pre post facto is also.

You can't put in a bill that the president has to do xxx or he's impeached.

Especially when he's not president yet.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2024 01:52 PM (G8h7g)

"I'll allow it!"

--Hawaiian Judge

Posted by: XTC at February 12, 2024 01:53 PM (sm6Pk)

350 343 Constitutional or no? Can the legislature prescribe punishment for the executive branch if the executive branch does not perform to certain criteria?
Posted by: TexasDan


If ex post facto is unconstitutional, pre post facto is also.

You can't put in a bill that the president has to do xxx or he's impeached.

Especially when he's not president yet.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2024 01:52 PM (G8h7g)

This is lawfare, not law or justice. These are will to power days. Something like this is just to provide the justification for the Deep State to remove Trump again.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

351 341 So who is running the Department of Defense right now?
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 12, 2024 01:51 PM (Mi8Re)

The Joint Chiefs. Have been since Trump's term.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:55 PM (xcxpd)

352 318 Buried in the bill’s text is an impeachment time bomb for the next Trump presidency if he tries to stop funding the war in Ukraine.

...

Constitutional or no? Can the legislature prescribe punishment for the executive branch if the executive branch does not perform to certain criteria?
Posted by: TexasDan
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Constitutionally, you cannot bind future Congresses and a future president from acting via normal legislation to revoke the appropriation.

What the Deep State is trying to do is set up an impeachment trap if Trump tries to deny funding (like his first impeachment) if Ukraine is stealing US aid money, etc.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:55 PM (9FrDg)

353 327 >>> 310 ...>>>>>>>>>>>...that the persistent use of the example, combined with Biden's increasing dementia, probably means that Biden no longer knows the reality at all. He isn't lying anymore. He literally no longer knows and cannot know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
-------------------

Which indicates that he can be removed from office without him knowing. Or in a manner that will not get his Irish up.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:47 PM (6ac8h)

I'm watching you people!!!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill
--------------------------

We have some happy pills for you Dr. Jill.
_Dr. D.State

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:55 PM (6ac8h)

354 It looks like the hobby lobby guy's big money was behind the football sin-apaloosa heresy spots. Or at least the outfit that produces them.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 12, 2024 01:56 PM (Y6IkP)

355 You didn't see that? Apparently Jesus is waiting to wash your feet outside of abortion clinics.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (nIvob)

They have a new one coming out when Jesus shaves your sack before you have it removed during a tranny surgery. Because He loves you.

Posted by: Roy at February 12, 2024 01:56 PM (z+ik4)

356 The Joint Chiefs. Have been since Trump's term.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Good call.

Posted by: whig at February 12, 2024 01:57 PM (9FrDg)

357 You didn't see that? Apparently Jesus is waiting to wash your feet outside of abortion clinics.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 01:45 PM (nIvob)

Ya know, right when he washed the disciples feet and then talks to them about the significance of what he'd done for them, he says "..you are clean, though not every one of you." For he knew who was going to betray him etc.

so EVEN IF Jesus himself washed your feet, it doesn't mean you're good to go. In fact, I imagine it's quite a bit worse in judgement if Jesus actually washed your feet and you then treat his blood like a doormat. People think they're being clever with turning Bible stories around and it's going to be so, so much worse for them as a result.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 12, 2024 01:58 PM (z/ifB)

358 >>> If ex post facto is unconstitutional, pre post facto is also.

You can't put in a bill that the president has to do xxx or he's impeached.

Especially when he's not president yet.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2024 01:52 PM (G8h7g)

This is lawfare, not law or justice. These are will to power days. Something like this is just to provide the justification for the Deep State to remove Trump again.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 12, 2024 01:54 PM (xcxp
---------------------------

We're in to dominate man territory. Whomever dominates dictates the law. We are an extra-legal Nation.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 12, 2024 01:58 PM (6ac8h)

359 Why do the dems get credit for being good on education???

If we had school vouchers every parent in the country would be able to improve their child's education just by the mere threat of taking their child to a better school.

The democrat machine has established a standard where it costs 2-3 times as much to give your kid a "free" public education that is inferior to what you get at a private school.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 12, 2024 01:58 PM (ssSph)

360 Classified documents is a topic, but Chinese fentanyl isn't. Strange choices.
Posted by: Roy at February 12, 2024 01:53 PM (z+ik4)

Well, the Chinese fentanyl stuff is classified. Like Classified classified.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 12, 2024 02:00 PM (z/ifB)

361
It looks like the hobby lobby guy's big money was behind the football sin-apaloosa heresy spots. Or at least the outfit that produces them.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 12, 2024 01:56 PM


Maybe there was something I missed but I'm pretty sure if Big Money is paying for a Super Bowl ad it was likely sacrilegious.

That's their game.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 02:02 PM (nIvob)

362 I think Bulbhead sells a foot washing machine.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 12, 2024 02:02 PM (63Dwl)

363
I think Bulbhead sells a foot washing machine.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 12, 2024 02:02 PM


I wash my balls at the local golf course. I like clean balls. They're easier to find.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 12, 2024 02:07 PM (nIvob)

364 So I saw a comment on my local newspaper site claiming that the Lakewood church shooter had "Free Palestine" on S/H/It's gun?

Any truth to that?

Posted by: SimoHayha at February 12, 2024 02:08 PM (AxRGS)

365 How do they explain Kamala Harris' senility. She sounds like she's on heavy duty dementia meds too. She's not 80.

Posted by: Jaimo at February 12, 2024 02:09 PM (DBrN4)

366 Do they have examples of Trump's memory loss?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 12, 2024 01:36 PM (zssUw)

Trump forgot all about paying hookers to pee on that bed. He also forgot to store his presidential papers in an insecure garage. That's just two examples.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 12, 2024 02:09 PM (BdMk6)

367 How do they explain Kamala Harris' senility. She sounds like she's on heavy duty dementia meds too. She's not 80.
Posted by: Jaimo at February 12, 2024 02:09 PM (DBrN4)

Kamaltoe is just stupid.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 12, 2024 02:11 PM (BdMk6)

368 Biden is not "too old to be president." He---HE---is too stupid, too senile, and too corrupt to be competent.

Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 12, 2024 02:47 PM (tbSPP)

369 So taken together, Mudpants Meatpuppet would do a better job destroying Western civilization. Sounds about right.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 12, 2024 02:53 PM (aRgQw)

370
Abortion: Biden +9

Life: Trump +91

Posted by: Marooned at February 12, 2024 03:05 PM (kt8QE)

371 Remember: Joe Biden is the Clodfather of the Biden Crime Family.

Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at February 12, 2024 03:10 PM (tbSPP)

372 Who would do a better job handling........ Classified documents: Biden +10

Is that trolling in the poll?

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 12, 2024 04:08 PM (50VAR)

373 Biden's not too old he is way too Senile to run America but Harris and Kerry are not any better

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 12, 2024 04:21 PM (wGqjj)

374 The People already ruled on Pedo Pete's mental fitness when we re-elected President Trump in a Landslide.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 12, 2024 07:59 PM (7e5vR)

375 When O was disgracing the WH, the Jerusalem Post ran a poll asking Israeli's whether or not they thought Obama supported Israel. 96% said no. 4% were undecided.

That's as much agreement on a political issue that I've ever seen.

Posted by: Aarradin at February 13, 2024 01:58 AM (5kvQv)

376 Its not the age, its the cognitive decline.

The man is practically a vegetable.

There's also the physical inability. He is extremely feeble.

This is a guy that insisted on debating Paul Ryan sitting down, because he was physically incapable of standing for the duration of the debate. In 2012.

Posted by: Aarradin at February 13, 2024 02:02 AM (5kvQv)

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