The Hypocrisy Of The West Is Exposed By Their Separate Morality For Israel

Israel is conducting a war against an entrenched enemy that has had more than 15 years to prepare the battle space. Its enemy has no regard for civilian casualties, and in fact makes tactical decisions to maximize those casualties for propaganda purposes. Their enemy does not abide by the accepted rules of war...they wear no common uniform; they hide amongst civilians; they torture and kill captured soldiers and civilians; and their infrastructure is blended into an urban setting so that it is impossible to target military objectives without striking supposed civilian facilities, homes, schools, etc.

Yet miraculously, Israel has managed to minimize civilian deaths to an extent rarely seen in any battle, much less a war. The hysterical Western media report the death toll as calculated by the Gaza Health Ministry as if it were some unimpeachable number. At the same time they examine under a microscope, every statement from Israel and its military, and loudly proclaim the supposed errors as proof of some nefarious plot to deceive. Yet even accepting the obvious nonsense being pumped into a gullible Western media by the terrorist organization Hamas, Israel has kept civilian casualties to a minimum.

A more bloodthirsty country would have leveled Gaza and killed many times the number of civilians who have died. Imagine if Russia or China had suffered an equivalent terrorist attack on its border. Or for that matter if a large force of narco-terrorists had crossed into Texas or New Mexico or Arizona or California from Mexico and raped and burned and murdered 48,000 American citizens. The clamor for an all-out assault on Mexico and the use of every weapon at our disposal would have been intense and unstoppable.

Yet Israel has resisted the urge -- if it even exists -- for wholesale slaughter. And it's doing an incredible job while under tremendous pressure from the United States and other Western countries to either cease military operations, or scale them back to token attacks on obvious concentrations of terrorists.

Here is Edward N. Luttwak discussing the amazing job that Israel is doing:

Why Israel Is Winning in Gaza

Israel has a fair amount of field artillery in the form of the common 155 mm caliber gun-howitzers, just like the U.S. and other Western armies. But it also has much smaller, much cheaper Israeli-made 160 mm heavy mortars that deliver 30 kilos of high explosives at shorter ranges. The Israelis should have used them abundantly in the Gaza fighting, because parabolic fire is just the thing in urban warfare, but did not because of their own avoidance of collateral casualties … and because of continued alarms and warnings from the U.S.
That was most certainly the case with the exceedingly restrained, indeed inadequate use of Israel’s air power in Gaza. In the 1991 “Desert Storm” attack on Iraq, for which I received a letter of commendation from U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff Merrill A. McPeak for target selection before and during the bombing, I never deliberately selected a civilian target. But I do not recall anyone ever telling me that a valuable military target must not be attacked because there may be civilian casualties. But in Gaza, the Israeli air force was hardly allowed to contribute more than a fraction of its strength to the fighting, in deference to the insistent requests coming from the White House.

Read the whole thing...it is fascinating.

The real issue though is that the rest of the Western powers so hell-bent on hamstringing Israel in its existential fight against terrorism would never hold themselves or any other country to such impossible standards. There is a long list of wars just in this century in which civilians were killed at shockingly high rates with nary a peep from the bien pensants in Washington and London and Paris. Iraq and Afghanistan saw huge civilian suffering, and in fact the numbers of refugees created by those wars are not afforded a tenth of the money and media coverage that refugees from the Israeli War of Independence --75 YEARS AGO! -- are given.

Israel is acting in an amazingly moral way in the midst of shocking and almost unbelievable brutality. The country has coalesced around the goal of making itself safe from the terrorists on its southern and northern borders, while adhering to standards of behavior that are a credit to its social fabric, 3,000 year history, and the moral code of Judaism.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 Good afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2024 12:00 PM (fwDg9)

2 The hysterical Western media report the death toll as calculated by the Gaza Health Ministry as if it were some unimpeachable number.

You mean the US 3 networks?

Posted by: vic at February 11, 2024 12:03 PM (A5THL)

3 It's easy to understand all of it, when you simply resign yourself to the fact that the American government is evil, and their filthy mouthpieces in corporate media will spew forth whatever is put into their mouths.

Truth doesn't, and never will, have anything to do with it.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 12:05 PM (Ntc77)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2024 12:05 PM (T4tVD)

5 Ireland is truly dead to me . I wouldn't care if they had another potato famine event in their future.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 12:07 PM (w6AZl)

6 CBD

Thank you for this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:07 PM (L7gdA)

7 Screw Bidet and his coterie of incompetentia. Israel STILL needs to inflict GENERATIONAL DAMAGE on Hamas and every other hostile entity in its AO. The US did it in WWII to Germany and Japan. Why is Israel any less entitled to do the same thing? Kill 'em in big enough numbers that it'll take generations to breed enough new hamster-muzzies to replace 'em. I don't believe that Hamas (ahem) gives two shits about the number of Israelis (or anyone else, for that matter) it kills. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Dr_No at February 11, 2024 12:08 PM (ayRl+)

8 The Hypocrisy Of The West Is Exposed By Their Separate Morality For Israel

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It's because the Prince of the World controls the West now.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 11, 2024 12:09 PM (L4her)

9 Same as it's always been. Organizations said the US killed at least two million civilians during the WOT in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 12:09 PM (w6AZl)

10 Biden, Dems Issue Memorandum Requiring Israel to Submit Human Rights Report Within 45 Days

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Hamas is golden, though.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 11, 2024 12:09 PM (FVME7)

11 "Attention! Your attention, please! A newsflash has this moment arrived from the Malabar front. Our forces in South India have won a glorious victory. I am authorized to say that the action we are now reporting may well bring the war within measurable distance of its end. Here is the newsflash..."

Believe nothing the federales or the media tell you.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 12:10 PM (R/m4+)

12 Excellent commentary CBD. I couldn’t agree more.

I find it exceedingly annoying when I’ll occasionally read a piece somewhere that has the idiotic theme: This is all Bibi’s fault! He tried to reform the judiciary…. He just doesn’t want to go to jail…. He let right wing settlers into his government…. Reeeeee!!!

It seems that there’s a variant of Bibi derangement syndrome out there that is similar in character to TDS. Everything is his fault…. From afar he seems to be handling the situation pretty well

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 11, 2024 12:10 PM (1jdMT)

13 I don't believe that Hamas (ahem) gives two shits about the number of Israelis (or anyone else, for that matter) it kills. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Dr_No at February 11, 2024 12:08 PM (ayRl+)

Yet Israel tries to minimize civilian deaths! It's amazing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2024 12:10 PM (gSZYf)

14 The world's anti-Jewush has taken over the political part if this war

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2024 12:11 PM (fwDg9)

15 The terrorists attack Israel.
Israel responds.
Washington interferes and tells Israel to stop or they will cut off aid.
Israel stops.
Terrorists attack.

For years I've laughed at the reporting of (insert any president name here)Middle East Peace Plan.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome.
Now Israel has changed the model. And they will win. Decisively.
It will save Israeli lives, Palestinian lives, and it will earn the respect of the Arab states.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2024 12:11 PM (W/lyH)

16 Israel has their own communist /woke left problem and it's not just an outlier.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 12:11 PM (w6AZl)

17 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:07 PM (L7gdA)

My pleasure!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2024 12:11 PM (gSZYf)

18 The story that began burning up the net yesterday was the announcement that the IDF has captured, intact, a major server farm and military communications center for Hamas. Best part - it was hidden underneath URWRA headquarters in Gaza. "We did not know!" says UNWRA head Philippe Lazzarini.

old song by Tom Paxton:
===
We didn't know said the Burgomeister,
About the camps on the edge of town.
It was Hitler and his crew,
That tore the German nation down.

We saw the cattle cars it's true,
And maybe they carried a Jew or two.
They woke us up as they rattled through,
But what did you expect me to do?

[Chorus]
We didn't know at all,
We didn't see a thing.
You can't hold us to blame,
What could we do?

It was a terrible shame,
But we can't bear the blame.
Oh no, not us, we didn't know.
===

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:12 PM (S6gqv)

19 Now Israel has changed the model. And they will win. Decisively.

It will save Israeli lives, Palestinian lives, and it will earn the respect of the Arab states.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2024 12:11 PM (W/lyH)

Excellent point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2024 12:12 PM (gSZYf)

20 "The hysterical Western media report..."
I think I've found your problem.
Turn off the news.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 11, 2024 12:14 PM (NBVIP)

21 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:12 PM (S6gqv)

The tech center got its power from the UNWRA facility above.

The idea that they didn't know is just too stupid to discuss.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2024 12:15 PM (gSZYf)

22 My understanding of that Hamas server facility is that also was receiving power via the UN structure above it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:16 PM (L7gdA)

23 CBD,

I might suggest that contrary to the populace they govern, our institutions are actually on the terrorist’s side. The propaganda response is entirely what you would expect in that case.

As a nation we have to resurrect the term and expectation of honor. Our “elites” have none.

Posted by: Pete Bog at February 11, 2024 12:16 PM (BHL6B)

24 One more addition to the claim by the UN that "They didn't know!" about the Hamas communications facility/server farm located under their HQ; those things require a huge amount of electrical power to function. The Hamas installation was directly wired to the UNWRA's power supply.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:16 PM (S6gqv)

25 Who was it that once said, war should be nasty, brutish, and short?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:17 PM (L7gdA)

26 In a number of recent interviews Netanyahu said that behind the scenes most (first he said "all", but wink wink, corrected himself to "most" so they have deniability) world leaders understand that Israel must destroy Hamas, remove them completely. I wonder if all this noise is due to local pressures these so called leaders experience. My thinking is, if you as your country's leader cannot say that a bloodthirsty, monstrous savage cannot be destroyed, and fault the good guy, a) you are not a leader b) you will have problems regardless of what Israel does.

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 12:17 PM (V13WU)

27 Hypocrisy has become one of the three legs of the Republican stool since the Romney clan was folded, like rancid meat, into the party.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 11, 2024 12:17 PM (EEgXH)

28 Now Israel has changed the model. And they will win. Decisively.
It will save Israeli lives, Palestinian lives, and it will earn the respect of the Arab states.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2024 12:11 PM (W/lyH)

Sometimes you just have to look at what is, and take it at face value: The American position, regardless of what they say, is to perpetuate this conflict.

If Israel stops letting the American government tell them what to do, they can change the outcome, but as long as they keep letting the U.S. insert itself, they'll keep getting what they've always gotten.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 12:17 PM (Ntc77)

29 ...contrary to the populace they govern, our institutions are actually on the terrorist’s side. The propaganda response is entirely what you would expect in that case.

As a nation we have to resurrect the term and expectation of honor. Our “elites” have none.

Posted by: Pete Bog at February 11, 2024 12:16 PM (BHL6B)

And it has multiple causes...Globalism, anti-Western progressivism, and a whole lot more.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2024 12:18 PM (gSZYf)

30
Hamas has a choice to surrender and release hostages and end hostilities. Because it does not is willing to have the war continue - so fvck 'em.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 12:19 PM (nIvob)

31 Ah my second post was not necessary.

The reason this is so significant is that it is final proof that the UNWRA has, in fact, been a fully integrated component of Hamas' Military Command Structure. NOT a "relief agency".

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:19 PM (S6gqv)

32 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:12 PM (S6gqv)

The tech center got its power from the UNWRA facility above.

The idea that they didn't know is just too stupid to discuss.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2024 12:15 PM (gSZYf)
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The thing that calls itself the UN has a hell of a lot to answer for. Time, perhaps, the tear it down and start over.
Meanwhile how many files are being destroyed in how many capital cities? I wonder what the message traffic looks like between hamas and DC?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2024 12:19 PM (W/lyH)

33 Hypocrisy has become one of the three legs of the Republican stool since the Romney clan was folded, like rancid meat, into the party.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 11, 2024 12:17 PM (EEgXH)

I was just enjoying an early lunch and you had to mention Romney!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 11, 2024 12:19 PM (1jdMT)

34 I really don't think Raphael Lemkin fully understood the possible ramifications of his definitions and recommended legal procedures. I believe he meant well...
Israel has been under a microscope since the beginning but, in my opinion, it all got turbocharged when Goldstone went to head the ICC (as distinct from the ICJ) and, being a civil lawyer with zero experience in established, customary Laws of Warfare, applied his own personal concepts of responsibility/guilt, and 'proportionality', to actual, you know, Warfare. I don't think Goldstone knew, or knows, the difference between an internal, civil matter in a sovereign State and Warfare between States. He shows absolutely no sign of it. Now, he all but invented the ICC and its jurisdiction, and his creation has run away from him: and is now a monster bent on eradicating Israel.

Posted by: LenNeal at February 11, 2024 12:19 PM (43xH1)

35 God bless the people of Israel.

Posted by: juvenal at February 11, 2024 12:19 PM (+66B9)

36 Stupid question. What percentage of US GDP goes to Department of defense? What percentage of Israeli GDP goes to defense? What percentage of Palestinian GDP (I don't even think they have a domestic product parentheses) is earmarked for defense?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:20 PM (L7gdA)

37 One more addition to the claim by the UN that "They didn't know!" about the Hamas communications facility/server farm located under their HQ; those things require a huge amount of electrical power to function. The Hamas installation was directly wired to the UNWRA's power supply.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:16 PM (S6gqv)

In my more optimistic moments, I have hope the Ukraine thing kills Nato, and now the Gaza thing kills UN.

The death of both those corrupt and evil orgs would be a benefit to the world.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 12:20 PM (Ntc77)

38 I am in no way as civilized as Israel. I want my enemies DEAD and as fast as possible. May BiBi hang tough and see his enemy destroyed.

Posted by: Pamazon at February 11, 2024 12:21 PM (fIB4m)

39 Slightly OT
Is there a good movie (or book) where the UN are the bad guys?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 11, 2024 12:21 PM (L4her)

40 The thing that calls itself the UN has a hell of a lot to answer for. Time, perhaps, the tear it down and start over.
Meanwhile how many files are being destroyed in how many capital cities? I wonder what the message traffic looks like between hamas and DC?
Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2024 12:19 PM (W/lyH)

NO worries ! We have copies. All you have to do is ask...

--Mother Russia

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 12:22 PM (V13WU)

41 Nope. Our government hates its citizens. Had a cartel in Mexico killed 48,000 of our citizens our government would applaud.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 12:22 PM (8sMut)

42 Art of war with wesley snipes

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 11, 2024 12:23 PM (PXvVL)

43 Greetings! As has been pointed out in previous discussions, the inversion of all institutions is evident in UNWRA's present mission which ostensibly is benign but in reality is evil.
As such it should be ended.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 11, 2024 12:24 PM (MeG8a)

44 'Had a cartel in Mexico killed 48,000 of our citizens our government would applaud'

Unless one of them were transgendered. Then all bets are off.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:24 PM (L7gdA)

45 Remember the word security council in the avengers where one turns out to be hydra

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 11, 2024 12:25 PM (PXvVL)

46 I still say carpet bombing of every square inch of Gaza is the way to go. And if it kills innocent civilians…so be it, they shoulda thought of that last October.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 12:25 PM (8sMut)

47 Cui bono?

It hurts the long-term military goals of the IDF to incur civilian casualties.

It helps Hamas to maximize civilian casualties. EVERY story in the Western legacy media that calls for a cease fire cites the civilian death toll in Gaza.

People with at least two neurons to rub together know who is the root cause of civilian deaths.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 11, 2024 12:26 PM (HlyYF)

48 I worked with and for an Israeli military contractor in another lifetime and they wouldn't think twice about killing every mofo in range and letting G_d sort them out.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 11, 2024 12:27 PM (EEgXH)

49 36 Stupid question. What percentage of US GDP goes to Department of defense?

It should be zero.

Posted by: Dems and Libertarians at February 11, 2024 12:27 PM (8sMut)

50 Comparing the U.S. population with Israel's in terms of casualties, 10/7 was the equivalent of TWENTY-NINE 9/11 attacks, as Netanyahu recently pointed out.

What Biden's regime is now doing is stomach-turning. I hope that Israel can stay united in pursuit of its war aims until relief arrives, pray God, in November.

Posted by: KC Wolf (mnw) at February 11, 2024 12:27 PM (NLIak)

51 How much of the international criticism is due to anti Israeli sentiment and how much is due to the fact that the west doesn't want anyone to defeat the terrorists.

I have thought for awhile now that "the war on terror" could have been won thoroughly a long time ago. The military industrial complex doesn't want that to happen. Grifting politicians don't want that to happen. Intel networks don't want that to happen.
There's no money in peace!
If Israel destroys Hamas, they might not need as much military stuff. No money there, but more importantly, if Hamas is extreme prejudiced out of existence then they won't be buying weapons from Iran, who won't be buying them from Ukraine, who won't be getting them from US government, who won't be getting kickbacks from Ukraine and the military industry.

No one wants Israel to prove that the enemy can be wiped out without massive civilian deaths because then they won't get to spend 20 fucking years getting rich on war while trying to win "hearts and minds".

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 11, 2024 12:27 PM (cRrcX)

52 Is there a good movie (or book) where the UN are the bad guys?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 11, 2024 12:21 PM

SMOD 2024! Not coming to any theaters near you, any time in the near future.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 11, 2024 12:27 PM (HlyYF)

53 In trevanians shibumi the cia is part of a apparat that will kill israeli spys to protect palestinians

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 11, 2024 12:27 PM (PXvVL)

54 46 I still say carpet bombing of every square inch of Gaza is the way to go. And if it kills innocent civilians…so be it, they shoulda thought of that last October.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 12:25 PM (8sMut)

innocent civilians do not live in Gaza

Posted by: vic at February 11, 2024 12:28 PM (A5THL)

55 Didn't we kill, like, 100,000 Filipinos in the course of putting down the insurrection we took over fighting from the Spanish?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 12:28 PM (Dm8we)

56 Speaking of anti-Jewish hate, when did Sturm Front take over the comment section over at Insty's place?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:28 PM (L7gdA)

57 I get a nauseating amount of political propaganda on YouTube whenever I visit DC. What was worse last week was the pro-Palestinian propaganda I kept having to skip.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 12:29 PM (8sMut)

58 41 Nope. Our government hates its citizens. Had a cartel in Mexico killed 48,000 of our citizens our government would applaud.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 12:22 PM

If it was Red Texans, they would applaud.

If it was Blue Californians, they would wail and gnash their teeth.

I don't see any reprisals from the Biden administration in either case.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 11, 2024 12:29 PM (HlyYF)

59 In his book Explaining Hitler, Ron Rosenbaum identifies many theories as to why the Jews were targeted. One was that the Jews were instrumental in developing a conscience. They were like a wet blanket at an orgy suggesting something was more important than sheer power. Now they are attempting to minimize casualties and are hated for it.

P.S. I enjoyed that book but beware! No matter who you are or what you believe, something in that book will deeply offend you.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 11, 2024 12:29 PM (FVME7)

60 The allies lost nearly 10,000 taking gaza in 1917

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 11, 2024 12:30 PM (PXvVL)

61
innocent civilians do not live in Gaza
Posted by: vic at February 11, 2024 12:28 PM (A5THL)

Even better.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 12:30 PM (8sMut)

62 38 I am in no way as civilized as Israel. I want my enemies DEAD and as fast as possible. May BiBi hang tough and see his enemy destroyed.
Posted by: Pamazon at February 11, 2024 12:21 PM (fIB4m)

Biden and Blinken are getting very frustrated that Netanyahu won't cooperate with their re-election efforts, which is why today the Washington Post reported that "Biden administration no longer sees Bibi as a partner that can be influenced, even secretly. "The growing frustration caused Biden's aides to urge him to be more critical of Netanyahu in public."

Axios a couple days ago reported that Blinken has instructed his staff to prepare to Recognize a Palestinian State by the end of this year. It's not much of a stretch to imagine that Biden and Co. are about to try to launch a "color revolution" to take out Netanyahu and get Israel to surrender right on the cusp of victory.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:30 PM (S6gqv)

63 Israel's armed forces are going to have to ignore, defy, or circumvent somehow the UN, which is using the ICJ and the ICC to 'legitimize' their 'criticisms'; and is using a series of allegedly legal definitions and/or allegedly legitimate judgments to attempt to impose a crippling ceasefire on Israel.

The dog-and-pony show at the ICJ was a precursor to establishing a situation in which Israel can be accused of exceeding some vague assessment of proportionality; and doing something disproportionate. This will then trigger the ICC, which has already used flagrantly illegal hit teams to track down 'war criminals' they decided are war criminals, and deploying them into sovereign States without regard to any kind of international law. They, Goldstone, did this in the Balkans.
That was the test run.

Posted by: LenNeal at February 11, 2024 12:30 PM (43xH1)

64 Stupid question. What percentage of US GDP goes to Department of defense?
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It should be zero.
Posted by: Dems and Libertarians at February 11, 2024 12:27 PM (8sMut)

Well, no. Obviously the Democrat party uses the defense department AT LEAST as corruptly as the Republican party, but the Libertarians would have the perspective that defense is to be maintained... AT OUR BORDERS.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 12:30 PM (Ntc77)

65 Is there a good movie (or book) where the UN are the bad guys?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

Alas, only reality.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 11, 2024 12:31 PM (FVME7)

66 25 Who was it that once said, war should be nasty, brutish, and short?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:17 PM (L7gdA)

That was me.

Posted by: Claudine Gay at February 11, 2024 12:32 PM (PiwSw)

67 Israel is totally justified in destroying Hamas to the last man, and razing the Gaza strip to the ground.

Not a brick left unbroken, not a blade of grass untouched by the flames.

LET BIBI BE BIBI

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:33 PM (geLO8)

68 24 Servo

Come on! UNWRA just didn't read its electricity bill carefully.

That could happen to anyone. Who reads all that fine print on their power bill?

Posted by: mnw at February 11, 2024 12:34 PM (NLIak)

69 Jews are God's chosen people...I'm gonna' stay close.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2024 12:35 PM (AwYPR)

70 Come on! UNWRA just didn't read its electricity bill carefully.

That could happen to anyone. Who reads all that fine print on their power bill?

I wouldn't if I knew someone else were paying for it.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 12:35 PM (sNc8Y)

71 >Israel's armed forces are going to have to ignore, defy, or circumvent somehow the UN, which is using the ICJ and the ICC to 'legitimize' their 'criticisms'
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how many divisions do the UN, the ICJ and the ICC have

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:35 PM (geLO8)

72 52 Is there a good movie (or book) where the UN are the bad guys?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 11, 2024 12:21 PM

Book: The Christ Clone Trilogy, by James BeauSeigneur (recommended)

Posted by: Claudine Gay at February 11, 2024 12:35 PM (PiwSw)

73 How much of the international criticism is due to anti Israeli sentiment and how much is due to the fact that the west doesn't want anyone to defeat the terrorists.

I have thought for awhile now that "the war on terror" could have been won thoroughly a long time ago. The military industrial complex doesn't want that to happen. Grifting politicians don't want that to happen. Intel networks don't want that to happen.
There's no money in peace!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 11, 2024 12:27 PM (cRrcX)

Anything I've ever seen that takes a closer look at our recent Afghanistan adventures, the thing you notice after a while is American personnel sitting around various locations, like ducks in a pond, waiting for the bad guys to show up.

They always seem to be outnumbered. Now, I'm not military strategist, but you gotta wonder, why did we basically sit there for almost two decades, having Americans killed and wounded, without anyone trying to put the full force of American military might into the fight?

I think we know why.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 12:36 PM (twpKt)

74 So who exactly does pay for UNWRA electrical use in Gaza?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:36 PM (L7gdA)

75 > So who exactly does pay for UNWRA electrical use in Gaza?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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my guess is, the taxpayers of any country that gives money to the UN

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:38 PM (geLO8)

76 We do so does the eu

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 11, 2024 12:38 PM (PXvVL)

77 Come on! UNWRA just didn't read its electricity bill carefully.

That could happen to anyone. Who reads all that fine print on their power bill?
Posted by: mnw at February 11, 2024 12:34 PM (NLIak)

Solar panels. And windmills.

Hamas was using its well-known technological advances to keep energy costs low.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 12:38 PM (twpKt)

78 O/T I think y'all heard that Tucker Carlson interviewed Snowden when he was in Moscow. He also interviewed Tara Reide. Remember her ? A woman who accused Biden of sexual assault. Relocated to Russia last year.

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 12:38 PM (V13WU)

79 Ironically it is precisely Israel's avoidance of civilian casualties that will keep this war going forever.

Both because Hamas doesn't care about some small percentage of their people dying, but Islam specifically *needs* something to kill off its young men.

If the elite men get 4 wives that means 75% of your men are going to be...restive. If you get a big chuck of them dead though...problem solved.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 11, 2024 12:39 PM (ibTVg)

80 So who exactly does pay for UNWRA electrical use in Gaza?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:36 PM (L7gdA)

Have you looked at your own energy bills lately?

Odd how those numbers keep going up and up.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 12:40 PM (twpKt)

81 Goldstone (in)famously recanted his 2009 report after he got dragged into a South African private meeting with the Jewish Community there, after it became clear SA was looking to arrest and prosecute as war criminals, individual IDF soldiers if they came home to SA to visit family.
They seem to have told him if he didn't get his shit together he was totally exiled from the Jewish community, along with his whole family. He panicked and recanted in WaPo and NYT, but the NYT refused his first submission because, I am given to understand, it was 'too critical' of the Palis.

Posted by: LenNeal at February 11, 2024 12:40 PM (43xH1)

82 74 So who exactly does pay for UNWRA electrical use in Gaza?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:36 PM

We do.

I read the fine print on my most recent bill from the UN. Right there at the bottom, it says Idiots like you and me pay a significant portion of that charge.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 11, 2024 12:40 PM (HlyYF)

83 74 So who exactly does pay for UNWRA electrical use in Gaza?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:36 PM (L7gdA)

Probably Israel.

Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 12:40 PM (tKXCy)

84 > So who exactly does pay for UNWRA electrical use in Gaza?
________

Probably, to some extent, you are.

We all are.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2024 12:40 PM (Q4IgG)

85 Back from a constitutional with the lovely and athletic Mrs naturalfake.

Lesse what's upthread.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2024 12:40 PM (nFnyb)

86 >Now, I'm not military strategist, but you gotta wonder, why did we basically sit there for almost two decades, having Americans killed and wounded, without anyone trying to put the full force of American military might into the fight?

I think American war-fighting doctrine changed after The Bomb and the end of WWII. We backed off from the idea of Total War. Guilt, regret, fatigue, pick one. We fight Half-Assed War now.

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:41 PM (geLO8)

87 5
'Ireland is truly dead to me . '

What'd they do?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 12:41 PM (roH4R)

88 So in effect, Israel will generate the electricity that Hamas will use to support killing the Jews?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:41 PM (L7gdA)

89 He also interviewed Tara Reide. Remember her ? A woman who accused Biden of sexual assault. Relocated to Russia last year.

A powerful corrupt US politician sexually assaulting one of his staffers and forcing her to flee the country is a story ripped from some thriller in the 90s.

Of course in the movie version he would be a rightwing theocrat...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 11, 2024 12:42 PM (ibTVg)

90 My filipino pal told me yes, there were massacres of filipino civilians after the conclusion of the Spanish American war. He also told me that these populations were restive muslims. Gen. Pershing was in charge of this conflict iirc. During this conflict, a filipino war cry emerged. Amok! Amok! Amok! basically means every man for himself and kill anything that moves. This conflict also led to the eventual development of the .45acp round after a tribesman (yelling Amok!) beheaded a US officer after that officer emptied his .38 revolver into the assailant.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 11, 2024 12:42 PM (MeG8a)

91 LET BIBI BE BIBI
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:33 PM (geLO

I think even those who hate Netanyahu have to admit that no one in Israel would have had the courage and fight to stand up against Biden and Blinken the way he has, and still is doing. They are far more serious enemies than Hamas is.

It's much the same situation as we have with Trump - when times are really bad and your back is against the wall, you *Need* someone who is a complete and total asshole in command, because no one else will be strong enough to take it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:43 PM (S6gqv)

92 >'Ireland is truly dead to me . '

What'd they do?

Posted by: Dr. Claw

apparently, Ireland sympathizes with Hamas

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:43 PM (geLO8)

93 Someone above mentioned "nasty, brutish and short"

That was Thomas Hobbes' description of the "natural" state of mankind, i.e., without civilization. In contravention of Rousseau, who imagined that the "natural" state of mankind was akin to the Garden of Eden.

Posted by: mnw at February 11, 2024 12:43 PM (NLIak)

94 The entire UN organization seems to be run now by Marxists

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2024 12:44 PM (fwDg9)

95 I think Bibi knows that the war on Gaza is his swan song, and that enemy laid to waste will be his parting gift to the people of Israel.

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:44 PM (geLO8)

96
They always seem to be outnumbered. Now, I'm not military strategist, but you gotta wonder, why did we basically sit there for almost two decades, having Americans killed and wounded, without anyone trying to put the full force of American military might into the fight?

*THIS* is what Shrub and Cheney should be put on trial for.

Any time there was an attack on an American soldier it should have been followed by multiple villages disappearing under a B-52's payload.

I guarantee the place would have gotten rather peaceful rather fast...

Instead we'd literally pay the jihadis for killing their grunts when they'd ambush our soldiers engaged in police work...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 11, 2024 12:45 PM (ibTVg)

97 I think American war-fighting doctrine changed after The Bomb and the end of WWII. We backed off from the idea of Total War. Guilt, regret, fatigue, pick one. We fight Half-Assed War now.
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:41 PM (geLO

It might be half-assed, but it's extremely profitable for thos running it. Far more profitable that Total War can be, because that ends.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:45 PM (S6gqv)

98 Russians do total war its called zachistka

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 11, 2024 12:46 PM (PXvVL)

99 who said 'war is the health of the state'

I seem to remember that snippet

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:46 PM (geLO8)

100 95 I think Bibi knows that the war on Gaza is his swan song, and that enemy laid to waste will be his parting gift to the people of Israel.
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:44 PM (geLO

ITYM that he hopes that Israel Laid to Waste will be his parting gift to Iran.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 12:47 PM (S6gqv)

101 My filipino pal told me yes, there were massacres of filipino civilians after the conclusion of the Spanish American war. He also told me that these populations were restive muslims. Gen. Pershing was in charge of this conflict iirc. During this conflict, a filipino war cry emerged. Amok! Amok! Amok! basically means every man for himself and kill anything that moves. This conflict also led to the eventual development of the .45acp round after a tribesman (yelling Amok!) beheaded a US officer after that officer emptied his .38 revolver into the assailant.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
__________

That was also the brief interlude when the Krag Jorgensen was the service rifle. With the funky side loader. Didn't not show well against the Mauser.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 12:48 PM (Dm8we)

102 I think American war-fighting doctrine changed after The Bomb and the end of WWII. We backed off from the idea of Total War. Guilt, regret, fatigue, pick one. We fight Half-Assed War now.

You can see this already in Korea. The first year was a modern war of maneuver where the US used its resources intelligently.

Then...3 years of doing nothing but fighting a war of attrition against an enemy that does not care about losing soldiers.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 11, 2024 12:48 PM (ibTVg)

103 At a women's sports arena the Irish team playing a Israeli team wouldn't appear on court for national anthem

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2024 12:48 PM (fwDg9)

104 here is a long list of wars just in this century in which civilians were killed at shockingly high rates with nary a peep from the bien pensants in Washington and London and Paris.

Posted by CBD

Respectfully disagree:
I would submit that our nation has been invaded by drug cartels who have killed many more than 48,000 in the USA.
Our self-entitled elites don't understand that they are allowing themselves to forever be subjugated by the unrestricted invasion of the US.
It is long past time that the US stop this invasion if that means war without quarter so be it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 12:49 PM (f3noK)

105 I saw mention yesterday of China "smuggling" oil from Iran. How the hell do you "smuggle" oil?

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2024 12:49 PM (AwYPR)

106 Wartime brings the ideal of the State out into very clear relief, and reveals attitudes and tendencies that were hidden. In times of peace the sense of the State flags in a republic that is not militarized. For war is essentially the health of the State.

Randolph Bourne, 1918

huh
make of that what you will

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:49 PM (geLO8)

107 Israel should use exactly as much restraint as necessary to avoid a break with the US. But should go balls to the wall otherwise.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 12:50 PM (roH4R)

108 101 A popular Jingoistic song of the time was "Under Neath the Starry Flag, Civilize Them With a Krag".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 11, 2024 12:50 PM (0EOe9)

109 Unless one of them were transgendered. Then all bets are off.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2024 12:24 PM (L7gdA)

Is the genocide against the sodomite dick munchers still going on?

The Horror, The Horror...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 12:51 PM (R/m4+)

110 At a women's sports arena the Irish team playing a Israeli team wouldn't appear on court for national anthem
Posted by: Skip at February

I'm curious. What is the Israeli national anthem?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 11, 2024 12:51 PM (zssUw)

111 hold themselves or any other country to such impossible standards.

Point understood, and not to be too arch, but our supposed leaders have hamstrung the cops and courts across the land, seceding cities to thugs and sociopaths. Those standards are gone domestically. I'm afraid if the US were to go to war, those impossible standards would just the first chord in a symphony of chaos.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 11, 2024 12:51 PM (IG4Id)

112 >>> The entire UN organization seems to be run now by Marxists

Posted by: Skip

>Hello? May I offer you my vagina?

Posted by: Nikki Haley at February 11, 2024 12:53 PM (EEgXH)

113 At a women's sports arena the Irish team playing a Israeli team wouldn't appear on court for national anthem
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2024 12:48 PM (fwDg9)

They refused to shake Israeli players' hands. Unfortunately over the years Ireland and the Irish had shown themselves to be extremely antisemitic. We are talking 19th century primitive level type. It was very much the IRA's position, but now its first minister is IRA, IRA is now mainstream, and antisemitism has become more and more mainstream. As usual disguised as anti-Israel attitude.

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 12:54 PM (V13WU)

114 I'm curious. What is the Israeli national anthem?
Posted by: Northernlurker

One Shot, One Bourbon, One Beer?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 11, 2024 12:55 PM (FVME7)

115 A popular Jingoistic song of the time was "Under Neath the Starry Flag, Civilize Them With a Krag".
Posted by: bill in arkansas
____________

"... there was nothing left for us to do but to take them all, and to educate the Filipinos, and uplift and civilize and Christianize them, and by God's grace do the very best we could by them, as our fellow men for whom Christ also died.”

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 12:55 PM (Dm8we)

116
I'm curious. What is the Israeli national anthem?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 11, 2024 12:51 PM (zssUw)
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Hatikvah. Must be one of the few national anthems in a minor key.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 11, 2024 12:56 PM (0gvpA)

117 110 What is the Israeli National Anthem? Why, something in klezmer, has an easy beat, could dance to it, give it a seven.

Israeli host on Israel National Band Stand

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 11, 2024 12:56 PM (0EOe9)

118 Russians do total war its called zachistka
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 11, 2024 12:46 PM (PXvVL)

One of the things Pootin said, whether he was telling the truth or not, is that they backed away from Kiev, because they had negotiated a settlement with Ukraine, and when it looked like the thing would be over, Boris Johnson came in and scuttled the agreement.

And then of course, the American (and presumably British) press claimed the Ukes had repelled the Russians.

Who you gonna believe.....

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 12:57 PM (Ntc77)

119 Latest count -

against:

NYT, CNN, WSJ, WaPO, Verizon/Yahoo

for:

MSNBC (NBC)

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 12:57 PM (V13WU)

120 *pro Biden remaining 2024 contended and against

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 12:58 PM (V13WU)

121 They refused to shake Israeli players' hands. Unfortunately over the years Ireland and the Irish had shown themselves to be extremely antisemitic. We are talking 19th century primitive level type. It was very much the IRA's position, but now its first minister is IRA, IRA is now mainstream, and antisemitism has become more and more mainstream. As usual disguised as anti-Israel attitude.
Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 12:54 PM (V13WU)

Sinn Fein and their attack dogs the Provos are hard core marxists, like Cuban almost.

Fuck Them All.

Abolish "International" sports as well. Waste of time, money and poontang.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 12:58 PM (R/m4+)

122 *sniffs in disdain*
Israel? Pffftt. They only have ONE national anthem.

Posted by: The NFL at February 11, 2024 12:59 PM (NBVIP)

123 A more bloodthirsty country would have leveled Gaza and killed many times the number of civilians who have died. Imagine if Russia or China had suffered an equivalent terrorist attack on its border. Or for that matter if a large force of narco-terrorists had crossed into Texas or New Mexico or Arizona or California from Mexico and raped and burned and murdered 48,000 American citizens. The clamor for an all-out assault on Mexico and the use of every weapon at our disposal would have been intense and unstoppable.

Kurt Schlichter's new book, The Attack is about exactly this point. What would Americans do if they suffered Islamic terrorist casualties on a scale normalized to our population.

http://tinyurl.com/bdfapd39

Bottom line: kill them. Kill them all.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:00 PM (CsUN+)

124 Went to church this AM. Every prayer included Israel.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 11, 2024 01:00 PM (kzHlT)

125
apparently, Ireland sympathizes with Hamas
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:43 PM (geLO

They're all in on the Jew Hate right now. Worst in Europe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 01:00 PM (S6gqv)

126 The issue that will decide-- decisively-- 2024 has not fully formed yet.
But it's taking shape.

More and more the Democrats are becoming the "America Never" party.
I have never seen the Democrats offer nothing to Americans before-- it's always been "Santa Clause is Coming to Town" every 4 years with them.
Now?
None of the usual; minimum wage increases, tax credits, welfare increases, etc.--nothing to even claim that they want you to have more money.
But the rest of the world is getting a blank check ....

If you can't tell, the Dems know MI is in play. No way you're risking other states to appease the Hamas-lovers in MI.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2024 01:01 PM (cSaKW)

127 I'm curious. What is the Israeli national anthem?
Posted by: Northernlurker

One Shot, One Bourbon, One Beer?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

Joke fail. I read that as Irish narional anthem.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 11, 2024 01:01 PM (FVME7)

128 BTW, the NFL can bite my ass.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 11, 2024 01:01 PM (kzHlT)

129 Just getting here after reading the Israeli X sites.
israel is about to enter Rafah, the last major stronghold of Hamas. They are winning. All of a sudden, everyone wants the war to stop. They are daily exposing the corruptioin of UNWRA. They are finding intelligence which is going to expose the support by major players, some in the West(Erdogan for one I believe) who have been supporting this terrorist regime.
Biden to give a speech today and yu can probably guess he is goingto give Israel some ultimatum. I hope they tell him to FOAD.
as for casualties...Hamas only give total numbers without separating fighters fro civilians. They claim around 25000 casualities. The Israelis have said they have killed at least 10,000 fighters and wounded another 10,000.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 01:01 PM (t/2Uw)

130 The viewpoint is easier to understand when you realize that to the average leftist, Israel is unforgivably white so they are automatically in the wrong. That and they honestly believe that if the Jews died out, we'd have Heaven on Earth.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 11, 2024 01:01 PM (lXCUP)

131 apparently, Ireland sympathizes with Hamas
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:43 PM (geLO

They're all in on the Jew Hate right now. Worst in Europe.

People who go around endlessly nursing historical hatreds have a certain kinship. Dudes, the potato famine was a long time ago. Let it go.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:02 PM (CsUN+)

132 Horrible news about our wonderful Cathedral that has a huge, robust and lively group of young families who attend and love the TLM. Rome just informed us that starting next month, the TLM is verboten. Please pray for us and our priests.

Posted by: LASue at February 11, 2024 01:02 PM (YDB6U)

133 103

'At a women's sports arena the Irish team playing a Israeli team wouldn't appear on court for national anthem'

The Irish are pretty sanctimonious for a country that IED bombed their way into existence.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 01:02 PM (roH4R)

134 Israeli National Anthem Hatikva

It is beautiful
http://tinyurl.com/bdcwfr5c

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (t/2Uw)

135 The lack of morality and intelligence of the "refugees" makes it easy to stir them up to unmitigated levels of barbarism. Of course this was true of them before they became "refugees" in 1948. They are barbarous beings. 10/7 validated their barbarism.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (2NHgQ)

136 Kurt Schlichter's new book, The Attack is about exactly this point. What would Americans do if they suffered Islamic terrorist casualties on a scale normalized to our population.

Americans will cross a frozen river in the middle of the night and kill you in your bed. On Christmas morning. We've done it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (S6gqv)

137 All this childish posturing at sporting events…. The Irish volleyball players probably couldn’t locate Israel on a map but they hate Jews. It happens in tennis too…. Female Ukrainian players won’t do the post-match handshake with Russian or Belorussian players…. In all cases, females…. Is this just fairer sex drama?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (xT8gx)

138 The tunnel network that Hamas built (with money given to them by well meaning idiots) has far exceeded the IDFs most radical estimates. One wonders how they got away with the construction for so long without being somehow observed.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (MeG8a)

139 Hatikvah. Must be one of the few national anthems in a minor key.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 11, 2024 12:56 PM (0gvpA)

if you read about the history of the hymn, the music is 17th century "La Mantovana"

http://tinyurl.com/zjjaz58v

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (V13WU)

140 @101 Krag Gun Thread coming up! Should be a good 'un!

The Krag (like the M1 Carbine not so long ago) was widely reviled for a long time, then historically reconsidered. It starts to look like an "acquisitions" problem, because it nicely met all the standards that were set. The standards tuned out to be inadequate. A different magazine would have been brilliant, but, a different magazine was not specified.

It was very accurate, and there are accounts circulated of Moros shot full of neat .30 holes when they came over the wattle with their yo-yos.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at February 11, 2024 01:05 PM (zdLoL)

141 134 Israeli National Anthem Hatikva

It is beautiful
http://tinyurl.com/bdcwfr5c
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (t/2Uw)

I'm glad to know that, because I would have guessed Hava Nagila.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 01:05 PM (S6gqv)

142 They refused to shake Israeli players' hands. Unfortunately over the years Ireland and the Irish had shown themselves to be extremely antisemitic. We are talking 19th century primitive level type. It was very much the IRA's position, but now its first minister is IRA, IRA is now mainstream, and antisemitism has become more and more mainstream. As usual disguised as anti-Israel attitude.
Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 12:54 PM (V13WU)

Ireland is the "palistine" of the British Isles.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:05 PM (BdMk6)

143 >>> BTW, the NFL can bite my ass.

Posted by: Xipe Totec

>I'm boycotting the superbowl because I don't want to see one millisecond of Tay-tay today.

I like football, I hate the culture.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 11, 2024 01:05 PM (EEgXH)

144 One wonders how they got away with the construction for so long without being somehow observed.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (MeG8a)
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I wonder how they managed to surreptitiously spread out all the spoil from the tunnels without being noticed.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 11, 2024 01:06 PM (0gvpA)

145 apparently, Ireland sympathizes with Hamas
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 12:43 PM (geLO

They're all in on the Jew Hate right now. Worst in Europe.
Posted by: Tom Servo
_________

They sent official condolences to Germany on Hitler's death.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 01:06 PM (Dm8we)

146 Ireland is the "palistine" of the British Isles.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:05 PM (BdMk6)

I am pro Unionist. Fvck the splinters.

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:07 PM (V13WU)

147 >Hello? May I offer you my vagina?
Posted by: Nikki Haley at February 11, 2024 12:53 PM (EEgXH)

It's funny how the internet appears to have attempted to scrub the video of her bowing to the China flag, saying "I now officially work for you."

Other than Crowder showing it every day.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:07 PM (peNgU)

148
Went to church this AM. Every prayer included Israel.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 11, 2024 01:00 PM

Nice. My wife was watching some internet service this morning with some Old Testament scripture about 'slaying the Chiefs'. She suddenly started laughing when she realized the preacher was a 49er fan.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 01:07 PM (nIvob)

149 Horrible news about our wonderful Cathedral

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Canterbury Cathedral, the most historic church in England and one of the most historic on earth, held a silent-disco rave over the weekend

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I'm not sure what a "silent-disco rave" is but I'm pretty sure it's Satan friendly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 11, 2024 01:08 PM (FVME7)

150 Americans will cross a frozen river in the middle of the night and kill you in your bed. On Christmas morning. We've done it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (S6gqv)

Past tense.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:08 PM (peNgU)

151 Kurt Schlichter's new book, The Attack is about exactly this point. What would Americans do if they suffered Islamic terrorist casualties on a scale normalized to our population.

Americans will cross a frozen river in the middle of the night and kill you in your bed. On Christmas morning. We've done it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (S6gqv)
***

A very good book.

Heck of a good read.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2024 01:08 PM (W/lyH)

152 They sent official condolences to Germany on Hitler's death.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 01:06 PM (Dm8we)
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De Valera was a piece of work.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 11, 2024 01:08 PM (0gvpA)

153 Where's our national anthem?

Posted by: Asian-Americans at February 11, 2024 01:09 PM (NBVIP)

154 Horrible news about our wonderful Cathedral that has a huge, robust and lively group of young families who attend and love the TLM. Rome just informed us that starting next month, the TLM is verboten. Please pray for us and our priests.
Posted by: LASue at February 11, 2024 01:02 PM (YDB6U)

Well past time for true Catholics to officially separate from Rome.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:09 PM (peNgU)

155 Where's our national anthem?
Posted by: Asian-Americans at February 11, 2024 01:09 PM (NBVIP)
-----------
"Ching Chong Chinaman?"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 11, 2024 01:10 PM (0gvpA)

156 Michael collins wouldnt have done de valera was played by rickman in the film who was properly funereal

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at February 11, 2024 01:10 PM (PXvVL)

157 A different magazine would have been brilliant, but, a different magazine was not specified.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver
___________

I thought it was selected in large part because of the side loader. It was understood that in could not be loaded as quickly as a stripper clip, which they thought would encourage economizing on ammo.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 01:10 PM (Dm8we)

158 Americans will cross a frozen river in the middle of the night and kill you in your bed. On Christmas morning. We've done it.

==

Under George Washington...not so much under Bill Clinton...or Joe Biden me thinks

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:11 PM (V13WU)

159 150

'Past tense.'

The ball's in our court to demonstrate our commitment.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 01:11 PM (roH4R)

160 Well past time for true Catholics to officially separate from Rome.
Posted by: BurtTC

Schisms don't work out too well. The Church has had worse figureheads. This too shall pass.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 11, 2024 01:12 PM (IG4Id)

161 BTW, the NFL can bite my ass.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 11, 2024 01:01 PM (kzHlT)

I'd forgotten about that damn game. I have things to do this afternoon, I wonder if anything will be open.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:12 PM (peNgU)

162
Horrible news about our wonderful Cathedral that has a huge, robust and lively group of young families who attend and love the TLM. Rome just informed us that starting next month, the TLM is verboten. Please pray for us and our priests.
Posted by: LASue at February 11, 2024 01:02 PM

Was Frankie getting complaints from our replacement citizens?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 01:12 PM (nIvob)

163 Locally, a blow was struck last night against another scourge of mankind, the self driving Waymo taxi. One drove into a Chinese New Year celebration in SF Chinatown, was immediately smashed and burned with fireworks.
I see about 4 a day in my neighborhood. Jaguars. Spinning gadgets everywhere, no driver or passenger.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 11, 2024 01:13 PM (MeG8a)

164 Well past time for true Catholics to officially separate from Rome.
Posted by: BurtTC

Schisms don't work out too well. The Church has had worse figureheads. This too shall pass.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 11, 2024 01:12 PM (IG4Id)

I disagree, but people are gonna do what they do.

I'm already gone.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:13 PM (peNgU)

165 I thought it was selected in large part because of the side loader. It was understood that in could not be loaded as quickly as a stripper clip, which they thought would encourage economizing on ammo.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 01:10 PM (Dm8we)
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One interesting thing I learned is that around 1900, the boys at Aberdeen Proving Ground had the idea of hooking a Gatling gun to an electric motor. They got it up to around 1000 rpm, but cancelled the experiment because a) ammo costs were becoming prohibitive and b) no one could figure out when that high a rate of fire would be needed.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 11, 2024 01:14 PM (0gvpA)

166 The Taylor Swiftathon doesn't begin in earnest until about 6:30 in the east which is like noon or so on the left coast.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 11, 2024 01:15 PM (NBVIP)

167 Shoe spammers was not on my 2024 bingo card.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 01:16 PM (sNc8Y)

168 Posted by: Splay Shoes Official at

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Wow, the new Lace wigs.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:17 PM (peNgU)

169 The Taylor Swiftathon doesn't begin in earnest until about 6:30 in the east which is like noon or so on the left coast.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 11, 2024 01:15 PM (NBVIP)
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Bit of a time warp, there.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 11, 2024 01:17 PM (0gvpA)

170 I'm glad to know that, because I would have guessed Hava Nagila.
Posted by: Tom Servo at

I would have guessed the theme song of the movie Exodus.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 11, 2024 01:18 PM (zssUw)

171 The Taylor Swiftathon doesn't begin in earnest until about 6:30 in the east which is like noon or so on the left coast.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 11, 2024 01:15 PM (NBVIP)

Isn't it already dark on the east coast?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:18 PM (peNgU)

172 A few years back, I ran across a very interesting observation: Europe will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz. It took a moment, but I finally understood it. The German death camps made Europe face end product of almost two thousands years of Jew hatred in a most brutal, animalistic fashion. Europe didn't want to face it then. Europe doesn't want to face it now.

A second observation I read more than once: Europe is addicted to the idea of unarmed Jews, cowering before their tormentors and dying without a protest. They can't cope with the idea of fully armed Jews ready to do whatever it takes to protect their families and their land.

Israel is not playing by its assigned role, therefore it must be forced back to where it belongs.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at February 11, 2024 01:18 PM (ET1Q8)

173 One interesting thing I learned is that around 1900, the boys at Aberdeen Proving Ground had the idea of hooking a Gatling gun to an electric motor. They got it up to around 1000 rpm, but cancelled the experiment because a) ammo costs were becoming prohibitive and b) no one could figure out when that high a rate of fire would be needed.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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Seems like it would have been a good anti-torpedo boat weapon for that time.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 01:18 PM (Dm8we)

174 Well past time for true Catholics to officially separate from Rome.
Posted by: BurtTC

Henry VIII did England a big favor when he did it.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:20 PM (BdMk6)

175 Hear, hear!

October 7th & its ramifications seems to have also shocked the CEOs, wealthy private donors & foundations, equity fund managers, etc. into realization the tide can turn against anyone, and their powers within the administration are what they can give, quietly, without opinion or strings attached, to government and its adjuncts for their abundance of working, often pass through, programs.

Any other comments I could write would mirror many already written by the Horde, for ex. "I think even those who hate Netanyahu have to admit that no one in Israel would have had the courage and fight to stand up against Biden and Blinken the way he has, and still is doing. They are far more serious enemies than Hamas is."

Israel does not stand alone.

Posted by: L - And now the King of BS can't remember last evening so let it go at February 11, 2024 01:20 PM (GshMh)

176 One interesting thing I learned is that around 1900, the boys at Aberdeen Proving Ground had the idea of hooking a Gatling gun to an electric motor. They got it up to around 1000 rpm, but cancelled the experiment because a) ammo costs were becoming prohibitive and b) no one could figure out when that high a rate of fire would be needed.

I wants one for driving the Beltway:

http://tinyurl.com/76na8suw

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:21 PM (CsUN+)

177 The right to self defense, whether as a sovereign state or an individual is under attack, period. Unless it is in defense of a globalist objective or their cause du jour, their media sycophants will attack you and their government controlled auspices will attack you. It's that simple. The Second Amendment, and the state of Israel simply clash with that objective. It's about total control and grasping the reigns of power. Any other imputed motive is simply superfluous to that goal.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 11, 2024 01:21 PM (T0jQj)

178
But yeah, thanx for spending the time to discuss this subject
here on your blog.

Posted by: Splay Shoes Official at February 11, 2024 01:15 PM

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Posted by: Nigerian Prince Abdul at February 11, 2024 01:22 PM (nIvob)

179 Is the well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory actually giving a speech somewhere today?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 11, 2024 01:23 PM (NBVIP)

180 US Military procurement is full of picking the wrong weapon or rejecting cutting edge weaponry. Not as bad as the French and they also come around to acknowledging the mistake.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 01:23 PM (w6AZl)

181 I find it odd that the Irish would be deeply antisemitic. Why?
I'm not suggesting antisemitism is even understandable.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 11, 2024 01:24 PM (zssUw)

182 The Taylor Swiftathon doesn't begin in earnest until about 6:30 in the east which is like noon or so on the left coast.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 11, 2024 01:15 PM (NBVIP)

I'm really hoping she gets overwhelmingly booed.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:24 PM (BdMk6)

183 Is the well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory actually giving a speech somewhere today?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 11, 2024 01:23 PM (NBVIP)

No, I just need to get a haircut.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:25 PM (peNgU)

184 I read a book a loong time ago about the Warsaw ghetto and how the Jews fought a brave battle there. Went to Wiki to see if I could fine the name of the book and they do not mention Jews at all! It was a Jewish uprising. One of the few places that didn't meekly get ont he trains to their death. Wiki says it was the Polish Underground.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 01:25 PM (t/2Uw)

185 @ 46 I still say carpet bombing of every square inch of Gaza is the way to go. And if it kills innocent civilians…so be it …

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
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Didn't Ham-Ass kill innocent civilians in October? WTF differents does it make if the rules are now turned back on 'em? My preference would be a tac-nuke that would glassify every inch of Hamasoid territory - after which a pest control company could finish the job. Think that's a joke? The German Pest Control Industry (Deutsche Schädlingsbekämpfungsindustrie) produced a product with the ironic name of 'Giftgas' to be used in the 'showers' of the concentration camps ... turnabout, fair play, all that bullshit - you know the drill. Proceed with vigor.

Posted by: Dr_No at February 11, 2024 01:25 PM (ayRl+)

186 I have an aunt who married and converted from Catholic to Jewish, and I visit them frequently in Florida. They're a more conservative leaning extended family and when I hear them talk of the ongoing war, they're frustrated with the "restraint" and see it as prolonging the inevitable - either wipe out the threat at once or it simply grows again over time and nothing changes. I tend to agree with them. I understand the diplomatic/optics angle but these people are savages - finish it.

Posted by: Son of Dad at February 11, 2024 01:25 PM (8JB5s)

187 >Is the well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory actually giving a speech somewhere today?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty

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saw a news item that said the advice to Biden is, get out there and show your face

if he hides from the cameras he will only be reinforcing the idea that his brain is basically cream style corn at this point

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 01:26 PM (geLO8)

188 I find it odd that the Irish would be deeply antisemitic. Why?
I'm not suggesting antisemitism is even understandable.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 11, 2024 01:24 PM (zssUw)

I really don't care, they're a third world shithole, but during the second WW, a lot of them were awfully fond of that Hilter fellow.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:26 PM (peNgU)

189 saw a news item that said the advice to Biden is, get out there and show your face

if he hides from the cameras he will only be reinforcing the idea that his brain is basically cream style corn at this point

This is clearly advice meant to destroy him and move him off the ticket.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:27 PM (CsUN+)

190 138 -- I keep wondering how Hamas hid the dirt coming out of those tunnels. There must have been a he'll of a lot more than could be carried out of the construction area a couple small bags at a time and shuffled into the local ground. (Yes, I've watched The Great Escape a few times too often.)

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at February 11, 2024 01:28 PM (ET1Q8)

191 US Military procurement is full of picking the wrong weapon or rejecting cutting edge weaponry. Not as bad as the French and they also come around to acknowledging the mistake.
Posted by: Naples Yellow
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Why were the French so bad? First modern rifle with smokeless powder in the Lebel, first modern artillery with the recoil mechanism in the 75, first auto-loader with the RSC.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 01:28 PM (Dm8we)

192 The thing with the Krag was that stripper clips like the Mauser and Carcanos used at that time were fiddly and if you lost them or only wound up with a box of ammo and no strippers, your rifle was back to being a single shot.
The side gate allowed a handful of rounds to be dumped in, and they would self index. It was truly a great design for an army that had used single shots and lever action repeaters that didn't really have magazines either.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2024 01:28 PM (D7oie)

193 A few years back, I ran across a very interesting observation: Europe will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz. It took a moment, but I finally understood it. The German death camps made Europe face end product of almost two thousands years of Jew hatred in a most brutal, animalistic fashion. Europe didn't want to face it then. Europe doesn't want to face it now.

A second observation I read more than once: Europe is addicted to the idea of unarmed Jews, cowering before their tormentors and dying without a protest. They can't cope with the idea of fully armed Jews ready to do whatever it takes to protect their families and their land.

Israel is not playing by its assigned role, therefore it must be forced back to where it belongs.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at February 11, 2024 01:18 PM (ET1

This is my theory, much of it is tied to the belief that Christianity is superior to Judaism, and therefore the Jews. For centuries this was part and parcel of European thought. How can an adherent to an "inferior " religion be a victor?! Unpossible ! That remained, even after W Europe became agnostic and even atheist.

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:29 PM (V13WU)

194 138 The tunnel network that Hamas built (with money given to them by well meaning idiots) has far exceeded the IDFs most radical estimates. One wonders how they got away with the construction for so long without being somehow observed.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (MeG8a)

The IDF revealed that they've uncovered records showing that Qatar and the UNWRA funneled over $2 Billion over the last decade to Hamas to build the tunnel network, which has turned out to be more like several full underground cities.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 01:29 PM (S6gqv)

195 saw a news item that said the advice to Biden is, get out there and show your face

if he hides from the cameras he will only be reinforcing the idea that his brain is basically cream style corn at this point
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 01:26 PM (geLO

He’s in a no-win situation (for him)…. If he doesn’t get out there he’s basically admitting his brain is mush. If he does get out there he confirms it in spades…. Reminds me of that old quote: Better keep silent and let folks assume you’re stupid than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 11, 2024 01:30 PM (xT8gx)

196 I finally had time to watch the Tucker- Putin interview. It was certainly worth rhe time. During the history lesson, Tucker had the look of someone trying to keep the characters straight in War and Peace. When that war started, I watched a video by a Russian woman. She mentioned that her family split up when the USSR broke up. Part went to St Petersburg, part to Ukraine and part to Belarus. They could travel freely in all three areas.

Haven't seen anyone talk about Putin's comment that the USSR leadership caused the collapse.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 11, 2024 01:30 PM (dfztv)

197 saw a news item that said the advice to Biden is, get out there and show your face

if he hides from the cameras he will only be reinforcing the idea that his brain is basically cream style corn at this point

As opposed to the classic advice that it's better to say nothing and be thought a fool...?

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 01:30 PM (sNc8Y)

198 Let me remind those of you who are quick to criticize the French military of one thing:
Yorktown.

Posted by: The guy with the wooden teeth at February 11, 2024 01:31 PM (NBVIP)

199 Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:29 PM (V13W

So you're blaming Christians. Wonderful.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 01:31 PM (w6AZl)

200 They found Hamas's major data hub underneath UNWRA headquarters in Gaza City. Cable wires running down into the tunnel. They had to know. This is what I mean about some Western players about to be exposed. It also demonstrates the absolute corruption of the UN which h ad to be aware of all this. Remeber UNWRA is completely separate from other UN refugee programs. It was designed specifically for Gaza. What other refugees have been squatting in "refugee camps" since1948 and a welfare agency solely to provide for them.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 01:32 PM (t/2Uw)

201
So you're blaming Christians. Wonderful.
Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 01:31 PM (w6AZl)

There are many Christians who think that in trying to convert Jews to Christianity they are doing Jews a great favor! How about to each according to their understanding and relationship with God ?

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:32 PM (V13WU)

202 153 Where's our national anthem?
Posted by: Asian-Americans

I don't know the name but I am pretty sure the Asian anthem is a loud gong followed by a staccato xylophone tune.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 01:32 PM (roH4R)

203
O/T I think y'all heard that Tucker Carlson interviewed Snowden when he was in Moscow. He also interviewed Tara Reide. Remember her ? A woman who accused Biden of sexual assault. Relocated to Russia last year.

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 12:38 PM

After seeing how they have (and are continuing to) persecute Trump I could see the 'well meaning man with memory issues' cancelling Tuckers passport in a fit of rage.

Do the Coyotes accept crowdfunding donations for smuggling Americans back into the USA?

Posted by: Nigerian Prince Abdul at February 11, 2024 01:32 PM (nIvob)

204 Haven't seen anyone talk about Putin's comment that the USSR leadership caused the collapse.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 11, 2024 01:30 PM (dfztv)

It's an interesting question, how much they voluntarily gave up, versus what was forced on them.

It is certainly true, that the Soviet leaders agreed to some of what they gave up, in exchange for Nato not moving to the east.

And then Nato immediately started moving to the east.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:33 PM (peNgU)

205 saw a news item that said the advice to Biden is, get out there and show your face

if he hides from the cameras he will only be reinforcing the idea that his brain is basically cream style corn at this point

This is clearly advice meant to destroy him and move him off the ticket.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:27 PM (CsUN+)

I think that now he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Like I said, the dem convention is going to be interesting by just watching all the hoops the dems will have to jump through.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:33 PM (BdMk6)

206 So you're blaming Christians. Wonderful.
Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 01:31 PM (w6AZl)

Wait, are you denying the destructive nature European Christianity had with the Jews ?

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:34 PM (V13WU)

207 Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:32 PM (V13WU)

Still blaming Christians.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 01:35 PM (w6AZl)

208 Still blaming Christians.
Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 01:35 PM (w6AZl)

for ?

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:35 PM (V13WU)

209 The French had to satisfy the need to use French designs that were chosen by design bureaus that were staffed with old generals who also investors in the arms companies.
Pre WWI rifles are beautiful and the cartridges are not since they combine both the initial need to maintain the 11mm cartridge and the newer 8mm small bore made necessary by the new nitro charge, and the belief that retooling would be cost prohibitive making a five round magazine the most possible

The French did develop a 8mm auto-loader rifle, the Mdle 1917 MAT but they were mostly disabled to shoot like a straight pull for reasons.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2024 01:36 PM (D7oie)

210 Why were the French so bad? First modern rifle with smokeless powder in the Lebel, first modern artillery with the recoil mechanism in the 75, first auto-loader with the RSC.

To say nothing of the Chassepot, which IIRC, was considered superior to the German needle gun, and the Mitrailleuse, a variant on a Gatling gun.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:36 PM (CsUN+)

211 Re the French and MilWeaponry: In WW1, American troops were introduced to the Wonderful Mod'ren New Mo'SheenGun! made by the French. It was called the 'Chauchat'. American troops hated it with a passion. It was magazine-fed, true - but: the magazine was top-mounted and had OPEN sides, allowing mud and other nastiness to cause it to jam at the worst possible times. The word 'Chauchat' passed into American English later as a reference to a firework (firecracker) that didn't fire. The word used to describe that is: 'Shoo-shoo' ... which is a close-enough approximation for 'Chauchat'. You're welcome ... Tune in tomorrow for more Fun Facks ...

Posted by: Dr_No at February 11, 2024 01:36 PM (ayRl+)

212
It is certainly true, that the Soviet leaders agreed to some of what they gave up, in exchange for Nato not moving to the east.

Interesting thought is that Nato members agree to not attack each other or all of the other Nato members defend the attacked.

Explain to me again the logic of keeping Russia out of Nato? I must have cut class that day, gotten high, and missed the lesson.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 01:37 PM (nIvob)

213 I think that now he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Oh, certainly. One has to feel sorry for Biden....Oh, wait, one doesn't, at all.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:37 PM (CsUN+)

214 I don't know the name but I am pretty sure the Asian anthem is a loud gong followed by a staccato xylophone tune.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 01:32 PM (roH4R)

Oh man, I watched the first two Thin Man movies last night. I've seen the second one before, didn't realize I'd never seen the first.

Anyhoo, the second film, features prominently, a poopular Chinese restaurant, and I thought "oh boy, here come the cultural stereotypes."

Nope. They have white musicians, white customers, and a white floozy singer. The one Chinese character... well, I won't spoil it. He's got a role to play, and other than his broken Engrish, there's not really anything derogatory about how he is portrayed.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:37 PM (peNgU)

215 There are many Christians who think that in trying to convert Jews to Christianity they are doing Jews a great favor! How about to each according to their understanding and relationship with God ?
Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:32 PM (V13WU)

The 1st Amendment is only for Christian religions, right?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:37 PM (BdMk6)

216 Is there a good movie (or book) where the UN are the bad guys?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 11, 2024 12:21 PM (L4her)

Can’t remember the name but the one where Nicole Kidman is an interpreter at the UN and a bunch of UN bad guys are involved.

Posted by: Montec at February 11, 2024 01:38 PM (vmfG7)

217 Explain to me again the logic of keeping Russia out of Nato? I must have cut class that day, gotten high, and missed the lesson.

Seriously? NATO was established to keep Russia out of Europe, and you're going to give them a veto over any actions NATO can take?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:38 PM (CsUN+)

218 187 >Is the well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory actually giving a speech somewhere today?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty

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saw a news item that said the advice to Biden is, get out there and show your face

if he hides from the cameras he will only be reinforcing the idea that his brain is basically cream style corn at this point

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 01:26 PM (geLO

Hey, all you dog-faced pony soldiers who doubt my mental acuity and stronkness - Watch Me! I'll show you! Hey Fat! Yeah, you on Ace of Spades right now! What's your IQ? Mine is uh, umh, ah, anyway, it's big! Bigger than yours! Jill? What time does that Taylor Swift Punch Bowl start? Six-thirty? Can I stay up to watch it?

Posted by: Joe Geritol at February 11, 2024 01:40 PM (5fDan)

219 160
'Schisms don't work out too well. The Church has had worse figureheads. This too shall pass.'

Time for another anti-pope. Where do you turn in the paperwork for that?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 01:40 PM (roH4R)

220 Interesting thought is that Nato members agree to not attack each other or all of the other Nato members defend the attacked.

Explain to me again the logic of keeping Russia out of Nato? I must have cut class that day, gotten high, and missed the lesson.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 01:37 PM (nIvob)

Pootin claims they actually requested to join, and were rebuffed. I don't remember if that was Clinton Admin or Bush.

Also, our defense dept. spokesman was on one of those shows a couple weeks ago, let slip what most people don't realize: Nato bylaws don't REQUIRE Nato to attack anyone who attacks a Nato country. It requires them to SUPPORT the Nato country.

In other words, what we're now doing in Ukraine is essentially the equivalent of the Nato agreement between Nato nations. So what makes Ukraine anything other than a Nato nation, in all but name?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:41 PM (peNgU)

221 The 1st Amendment is only for Christian religions, right?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:37 PM (BdMk6)

which means what ?

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:41 PM (V13WU)

222 Tay Tay flew from LA to Japan for a concert this week. Then back to LV for the Super Bowl. Then back to Australia for another concert tomorrow.

She will have burned more fuel in one week than most people will in a lifetime. Where is the outrage from leftists like AOC?

Posted by: Montec at February 11, 2024 01:41 PM (vmfG7)

223
Seriously? NATO was established to keep Russia out of Europe, and you're going to give them a veto over any actions NATO can take?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:38 PM

By attacking another country, like Ukraine for instance, they would be ripping up their Nato membership. What veto at that point?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 01:41 PM (nIvob)

224 Re the French and MilWeaponry: In WW1, American troops were introduced to the Wonderful Mod'ren New Mo'SheenGun! made by the French. It was called the 'Chauchat'. American troops hated it with a passion. It was magazine-fed, true - but: the magazine was top-mounted and had OPEN sides, allowing mud and other nastiness to cause it to jam at the worst possible times. The word 'Chauchat' passed into American English later as a reference to a firework (firecracker) that didn't fire. The word used to describe that is: 'Shoo-shoo' ... which is a close-enough approximation for 'Chauchat'. You're welcome ... Tune in tomorrow for more Fun Facks ...
Posted by: Dr_No
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I think they developed a box magazine to address the mud problem. And it still wasn't a bad gun given the need at the time for something light enough to carry across no mans land, but with a high rate of fire. I think the Madsen was the only thing comparable at the time. Lewis Gun was much heavier. Nothing better came along until the MP 18.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 01:42 PM (Dm8we)

225 I think that now he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Despite my previous comment, I can see the thinking behind it. At this point, there is no low-risk path for Joe. He has to take the chance.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 01:43 PM (sNc8Y)

226 Yesterday I was at a riding group convention and CNN was on in the room where we had lunch. Thankfully it was muted but it was surreal reading the scrolls about "xyz are criticizing Republicans for attacking Biden for 'his age'" and so on.

It is hard for me to grasp that a large chunk of people still think of CNN as pure news and not commie propaganda.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 11, 2024 01:44 PM (3cGpq)

227 https://www.bobdylan.com/songs/neighborhood-bully/

Posted by: Eli Silas at February 11, 2024 01:44 PM (2Pbj2)

228
The UN is beyond useless, but I think Nato Generals in all of the other member countries understand things about 1000% better then our politicians.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 01:44 PM (nIvob)

229 There are many Christians who think that in trying to convert Jews to Christianity they are doing Jews a great favor! How about to each according to their understanding and relationship with God ?
Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:32 PM (V13WU)

This is not to be snide or mean, this is an honest question for your opinion since I have never seen examples of this.

Do you think that there are more Christians wanting to convert Jews to Christianity, as in more than just a vague wish, than there are KKK members in America? And if so, by what proportion?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2024 01:44 PM (D7oie)

230 (Feb. 9th) Hillary Clinton repeatedly interrupted by protesters at Columbia University
The former secretary of state was interrupted by protesters for several minutes Friday who called her a "war criminal" and said she would "burn." (See YouTube)

They've been yelling & walking out of her classes periodically since October 2023. She's not alone in the university attacks as the administration searches for political surrogates.
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Re: The Irish

Who is the Chancellor of Queens College Belfast?
The current chancellor is Hillary Clinton, who was appointed the university's first female chancellor in January 2020 (and was inaugurated in September 2021), taking over from previous incumbent Thomas Moran, who died in August 2018. Clinton had been given an honorary doctorate from the university in October 2018.

Her appointment is five years in length.

Ireland (the Republic of Ireland) is a member of the EU. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. Queens College is in Northern Ireland, Belfast.

Posted by: L - And now the King of BS can't remember last evening so let it go at February 11, 2024 01:45 PM (GshMh)

231 201 -- Prior to a major battle, Constantine the Great promised to convert to Christianity if he won. Following his victory and conversion, he decreed that the Jews could no longer proselytize and threw in a few other restrictions. As time passed, other restrictions were placed on the Jews, the blood libel came about, as did an unshakable belief that the Jews killed Christ.

Someone asked about a book about the Jewish uprising in Warsaw. I believe you might be thinking of Mila 18 by Leon Uris.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at February 11, 2024 01:45 PM (ET1Q8)

232
By attacking another country, like Ukraine for instance, they would be ripping up their Nato membership. What veto at that point?

NATO must, like any military, build up it's structures and assets to an overall plan. If Russia ensures that that plan will fail or be ineffective, and therefore any attack by them would succeed, they've destroyed NATA as a deterrent

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:46 PM (CsUN+)

233
Pootin claims they actually requested to join, and were rebuffed. I don't remember if that was Clinton Admin or Bush.

If memory serves me, he mentioned a year and not a name. He tended to do that when it was something unfavorable about the person. But it was late 90's - so Clinton.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 01:46 PM (nIvob)

234 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 01:25 PM (t/2Uw)

There was a revolt in Warsaw late in the war that I think was the Polish resistance. Maybe they are referring to that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2024 01:46 PM (gSZYf)

235 NATO

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:46 PM (CsUN+)

236 The IDF revealed that they've uncovered records showing that Qatar and the UNWRA funneled over $2 Billion over the last decade to Hamas to build the tunnel network, which has turned out to be more like several full underground cities.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 01:29 PM (S6gqv)
***

This war will end, probably by summer. And if the data from the server farm is useful at all, I have to wonder what come next? How much will Israel have over other nations? Who has access to the money? What form will payback take? And what, if anything, will those who have aided hamas do proactively?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2024 01:46 PM (W/lyH)

237 Imagine you're one of the "movers and shakers" that are actually running things behind the scenes. You're trying to make sure your agenda is being tended to. Yet, you've got two of the most unlikeable people as your figureheads; *biden and Harris.

What would you do?

Dispatching the #1 and #2 officials is going to cause some issues, IMO. One might not raise suspicion, but two...?

I think the infighting going on within the Democrat party isn't so much about who to replace as it is about how to do it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2024 01:47 PM (Q4IgG)

238 Despite my previous comment, I can see the thinking behind it. At this point, there is no low-risk path for Joe. He has to take the chance.
Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 01:43 PM (sNc8Y)

The live on-air drooling meltdown I’ve been rooting for for a few years seems more likely now…. Popcorn

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 11, 2024 01:47 PM (xT8gx)

239 I think the infighting going on within the Democrat party isn't so much about who to replace as it is about how to do it.

I've tried many times to put myself in their shoes, but for the life of me, I can't see a good alternative for them. It's so sad.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:48 PM (CsUN+)

240 I think the infighting going on within the Democrat party isn't so much about who to replace as it is about how to do it.

I've tried many times to put myself in their shoes, but for the life of me, I can't see a good alternative for them. It's so sad.

At this point, galactic levels of cheating are really their only viable option.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:49 PM (CsUN+)

241 This is not to be snide or mean, this is an honest question for your opinion since I have never seen examples of this.

Do you think that there are more Christians wanting to convert Jews to Christianity, as in more than just a vague wish, than there are KKK members in America? And if so, by what proportion?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2024 01:44 PM (D7oie)

I will counter with a question or two, what is a "vague wish" and why does it exist in the first place ?

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:49 PM (V13WU)

242 At this point, galactic levels of cheating are really their only viable option.

"I fail to see the problem"

Posted by: Thousands of D election offiicials at February 11, 2024 01:50 PM (3cGpq)

243 *Jill? What time does that Taylor Swift Punch Bowl start? Six-thirty? Can I stay up to watch it?*

Ok, but that means you'll miss several episodes of Hazel on MeTV...

Posted by: Jill NotADoctor at February 11, 2024 01:50 PM (NBVIP)

244 This war will end, probably by summer. And if the data from the server farm is useful at all, I have to wonder what come next? How much will Israel have over other nations? Who has access to the money? What form will payback take? And what, if anything, will those who have aided hamas do proactively?
Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2024 01:46 PM (W/lyH)

Again with some wise words: Kill them. Kill them all.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:50 PM (BdMk6)

245 218
Seriously? NATO was established to keep Russia out of Europe, and you're going to give them a veto over any actions NATO can take?

Correct. NATO was a anti-USSR military alliance. Keeping it implied we weren't done with the Cold War.
It probably ought to have been disbanded after the USSR fell and replaced with something more suited to the new relationship to Russia.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 01:50 PM (roH4R)

246 If memory serves me, he mentioned a year and not a name. He tended to do that when it was something unfavorable about the person. But it was late 90's - so Clinton.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 01:46 PM (nIvob)

I believe he mentions the Presidents by name, but then gets coy about who it was who overruled the President in each instance.

His message was clear though: Your presidents are not in charge, and haven't been as long as I've been dealing with them.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:51 PM (e6/Nr)

247
NATO must, like any military, build up it's structures and assets to an overall plan. If Russia ensures that that plan will fail or be ineffective, and therefore any attack by them would succeed, they've destroyed NATA as a deterrent

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:46 PM

But who is to say that it's only Russia who is the bad guy? Germany has a long history of being evil. Certain Nazi elements of Ukraine want a second round at WWII.

I'm just saying it was something that should have been given more them a 'nyet' to - perhaps some deliberate thought.

We once had a bloody relationship with Japan but it is over. Has been for half a century or more.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 01:51 PM (nIvob)

248 Is there a good movie (or book) where the UN are the bad guys?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 11, 2024 12:21 PM (L4her)

Yes. The UN higher-ups in Africa and especially at UN HQ are shown to be not exactly bad guys, but definitely not good guys, in the book, "Shake Hands With the Devil," by Canadian Forces General Romeo Dallaier. He was commander of the UN peacekeeping force during the 1994 Rwandan genocidal civil war. A film was made of the book in 2007, same title. I think it's free on utoob.

Posted by: Joe Geritol at February 11, 2024 01:51 PM (5fDan)

249 This is my theory, much of it is tied to the belief that Christianity is superior to Judaism, and therefore the Jews. For centuries this was part and parcel of European thought.
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You don't hear it as much anymore but "the Jews killed Jesus" was a given reason to justify a lot of "they deserve it" antisemitism among Christians.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2024 01:52 PM (cSaKW)

250 Seriously? NATO was established to keep Russia out of Europe, and you're going to give them a veto over any actions NATO can take?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:38 PM (CsUN+)

Lincoln is hated for valid reasons by some people (and revered so get your knickers untwisted)

He did say: Have I not destroyed my enemy when I have made him into my friend?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2024 01:52 PM (D7oie)

251 It probably ought to have been disbanded after the USSR fell and replaced with something more suited to the new relationship to Russia.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 01:50 PM (roH4R)

Cold warriors will continue the cold war until they're dead and cold themselves.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:52 PM (e6/Nr)

252 Oh crap. Off Joe Geritol smelly sock.

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 01:53 PM (5fDan)

253 Lincoln is hated for valid reasons by some people (and revered so get your knickers untwisted)

I'm disturbed by your unsolicited attention to my knickers.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2024 01:53 PM (CsUN+)

254 >Pootin claims they actually requested to join, and were rebuffed. I don't remember if that was Clinton Admin or Bush.

Putin said it was both

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 01:53 PM (geLO8)

255 I remember many years ago, in a theology class we read an account of some Sioux (?) Indian tribe and a Christian theologian who came to convert them. Their (Sioux) response was something along the lines of to each according to understanding. Wish I could find a direct quote...

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:54 PM (V13WU)

256 It is a given that the Russians are paranoid as hell of being overrun by some enemy or another because that had been so many times in their history. If you look at the USSR, you realize that Stalin built himself one ginormous buffer zone.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I stand with Israel and all Jews everywhere at February 11, 2024 01:54 PM (ET1Q8)

257 The upper reaches or our government are controlled by the Iranian/Arab apologists. Obama was and remains for all intents and purposes a traitor to his country and an agent for global islam and the destruction of the Christian capitalist west. I make that charge not loosely. There is no other explanation.

If President Trump is so lucky as to overcome the cheat in this year's election, his first job is to fire everyone in the state department except those who process passports and visas. And I don't care if they have any civil service protections. Every Ambassador and his direct reports brought home and fired.

Day 1. This is complete and utter bullshit. And a warrant sworn out for VJs arrest. I'm sure we can manage some trumped charge. And give her the J6 and Manafort treatment.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 11, 2024 01:54 PM (UVyKP)

258 The special counsel's statement about Biden's mental health has the Obama fronted cabal's fingerprints all over it. Special council of AG Garland's justice department. The Garland who the Obama fronted cabal tried to install on the SCOTUS. Plus bufferage in between them all.

Posted by: davidt at February 11, 2024 01:54 PM (SYTee)

259 Yes. The UN higher-ups in Africa and especially at UN HQ are shown to be not exactly bad guys, but definitely not good guys, in the book, "Shake Hands With the Devil," by Canadian Forces General Romeo Dallaier. He was commander of the UN peacekeeping force during the 1994 Rwandan genocidal civil war. A film was made of the book in 2007, same title. I think it's free on utoob.
Posted by: Joe Geritol at February 11, 2024 01:51 PM (5fDan)

Now I'm remembering a movie... was it Nick Nolte who was in it? Some U.N. operation in Africa, and at first he's willing to put on the blue helmet, but then gets disillusioned as things go.

I don't remember details, in fact I'm not sure it was Nolte, or some other gruff actor. An Ed Harris type, maybe?

Someone remembers, I'm sure.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:54 PM (e6/Nr)

260 At this point, galactic levels of cheating are really their only viable option.

"I fail to see the problem"
Posted by: Thousands of D election offiicials at February 11, 2024 01:50 PM (3cGpq)

I think this time it will be extreme lawfare (exponentially more than the 2000 election). They'll want to drive the election to a vote in congress.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:55 PM (BdMk6)

261 242 At this point, galactic levels of cheating are really their only viable option.

"I fail to see the problem"
Posted by: Thousands of D election offiicials at February 11, 2024 01:50 PM (3cGpq)

Either that, or finding a reason to cancel elections completely. I have no doubt there are some people trying to figure out how to do this already. Setting off a nuke or two would certainly do the trick.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 01:56 PM (S6gqv)

262 The live on-air drooling meltdown I’ve been rooting for for a few years seems more likely now…. Popcorn
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My dream is a profanity-laced outburst at that African reporter they hate with at least one N-bomb.

Who ain't black then?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2024 01:57 PM (cSaKW)

263 Hotel Rwanda.

Found it myself.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:57 PM (e6/Nr)

264 I had a somewhat theological conversation with a Hindu lady from India. Who told me that there is only one God and that then various manifestations... until that time I was taught that Hinduism was a polytheistic religion. Hmm.

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:58 PM (V13WU)

265 Who ain't black then?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2024 01:57 PM (cSaKW)

Pfft/ "just getting in the black youth vote by speaking the lingo, he's not so white old and square after all!"

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2024 01:59 PM (D7oie)

266 "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy..."

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:59 PM (V13WU)

267 263 Hotel Rwanda.

Found it myself.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 01:57 PM (e6/Nr)

Yeah. Nolte plays a colonel in the UN peacekeeping force. The character is a fictionalized portrayal of Gen. Dallaire

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 02:00 PM (5fDan)

268 It is a given that the Russians are paranoid as hell of being overrun by some enemy or another because that had been so many times in their history. If you look at the USSR, you realize that Stalin built himself one ginormous buffer zone.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin
___________

Bad geography. No natural defensive positions on the borders.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2024 02:00 PM (Dm8we)

269 The fraud is baked into the next "election." The GOP will bend over backwards to make sure the candidate of choice is installed. Not the popular one.

But there is a real issue in keeping both *biden and Harris on the same ticket in November. Maybe there's a plan for some sort of op similar to covid that will be sprung prior to the "election" that negates the problems with the two of them.

However I can contemplate one or the other of them not being on the ticket for "whatever reason" is dreamt up.

But not both.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2024 02:00 PM (Q4IgG)

270 Yeah. Nolte plays a colonel in the UN peacekeeping force. The character is a fictionalized portrayal of Gen. Dallaire
Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 02:00 PM (5fDan)

Yeah, I can't see myself watching it again, but I don't recall if the UN were the "bad guys" or merely incompetent and useless.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 02:01 PM (e6/Nr)

271
He did say: Have I not destroyed my enemy when I have made him into my friend?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2024 01:52 PM

That's good. I have a son-in-law who now works in this country for a Japanese manufacturer with something like six manufacturing plants employing (quick guess) a couple hundred thousand in multiple states - although seemingly moving toward Texas HQ.

We get something, they get something. 'Fair Trade' works that way, 'Free Trade' doesn't score so well.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 11, 2024 02:02 PM (nIvob)

272 Well, the DNC is not a governmental body, so it is free to write and re-write its rules any way it wants. I'm sure the Party leadership will come up with a process that allows them to yank Biden and Harris and drop in whomever they decide on.

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 02:03 PM (geLO8)

273 Runner perhaps you're thinking of Rockwell's painting.

From the Smithsonian website:

Freedom of Religion depicts several individuals of different religious backgrounds in a moment of prayer. A man wearing a fez holds a Bible or Koran; a woman fingers a rosary. Rockwell worked for two months on this painting, which carries an inscription: “Each according to the dictates of his own conscience.” The artist said later that he could not recall the source of the words; however, almost identical language can be found in the “Thirteen Articles of Faith” written by prophet Joseph Smith in 1842 to explain the bedrock beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons).

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 11, 2024 02:04 PM (NBVIP)

274 >but I don't recall if the UN were the "bad guys" or merely incompetent and useless.

same diff

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 02:04 PM (geLO8)

275
Good afternoon from Atlanta. Cooling my heels connecting to Philly. I hate PHL with the heat of a 1,000 suns.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 11, 2024 02:04 PM (UwXJh)

276 5 Ireland is truly dead to me . I wouldn't care if they had another potato famine event in their future.

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There was no potato famine. The English burned all of their crops and homes then arrested them for being homeless.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 11, 2024 02:05 PM (xw1WS)

277 Well, the DNC is not a governmental body, so it is free to write and re-write its rules any way it wants. I'm sure the Party leadership will come up with a process that allows them to yank Biden and Harris and drop in whomever they decide on.
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 02:03 PM (geLO

It's their system of super-delegates. It's how the Hildebeast "won" the ticket in 2015.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 02:07 PM (BdMk6)

278 Super!-Delegates put Obama on the ticket in 2008.

Posted by: davidt at February 11, 2024 02:08 PM (SYTee)

279 As far as the DNC and any rule changes they might make, I'm sure they'll have no problem jamming it all down the throats of the faithful rank and file

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 02:10 PM (geLO8)

280 Super Double Secret Delegates

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2024 02:11 PM (geLO8)

281 Super!-Delegates put Obama on the ticket in 2008.
Posted by: davidt at February 11, 2024 02:08 PM (SYTee)

Now that you mention it, yes. Yes they did.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 02:11 PM (BdMk6)

282
Good afternoon from Atlanta. Cooling my heels connecting to Philly. I hate PHL with the heat of a 1,000 suns.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 11, 2024 02:04 PM

You sound like you need a cheese-steak, a Yuengling, and a trip to the 🏳️‍🌈 area of Philly.

Posted by: Philadelphia Chamber of Commerce at February 11, 2024 02:12 PM (nIvob)

283 The Super Delegates... here to defend democracy against the voters. When the voters get the nominee wrong, it is time for the Super Delegates to step into action.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 11, 2024 02:14 PM (xw1WS)

284 Is there any doubt that, if sanctioning Israel would guarantee Biden the election, the democrats would do it without hesitation?

A separate particularly treacherous topic treacherous topic - Christians are supposed to bring others to Christ - but the most (only?) effective way to do that is by reflecting the light of Jesus in our own lives.

Posted by: Oglebay at February 11, 2024 02:15 PM (ogTiX)

285 Who you gonna believe.....
Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2024 12:57 PM (Ntc77)
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Not Pootin.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 11, 2024 02:17 PM (UVyKP)

286 You sound like you need a cheese-steak, a Yuengling, and a trip to the 🏳️‍🌈 area of Philly.

Posted by: Philadelphia Chamber of Commerce subs.

I really don't wanna get knocked in the head, mugged, and butt phucked (not necessarily in that order either). Gonna hit I-76 East, and run to Moorestown where I'll be for the week.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 11, 2024 02:18 PM (UwXJh)

287 If you can't tell, the Dems know MI is in play. No way you're risking other states to appease the Hamas-lovers in MI.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2024 01:01 PM (cSaKW)
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Dirtiest election process in the country - Detroit (Wayne County) Biden is in no danger whatsoever in MI. He's using it as a reason to do what he wants to do with Israel and Hamas.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 11, 2024 02:19 PM (UVyKP)

288 Well past time for true Catholics to officially separate from Rome.
Posted by: BurtTC

Schisms don't work out too well. The Church has had worse figureheads. This too shall pass.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 11, 2024 01:12 PM (IG4Id)
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Churches I've been in in the more conservative dioceses pay the minimal respect to the Pope and are just waiting for him to pass.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 11, 2024 02:24 PM (UVyKP)

289 Henry VIII did England a big favor when he did it.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2024 01:20 PM (BdMk6)
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I'd suggest that hasn't aged well.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 11, 2024 02:28 PM (UVyKP)

290 There are many Christians who think that in trying to convert Jews to Christianity they are doing Jews a great favor! How about to each according to their understanding and relationship with God ?
Posted by: runner at February 11, 2024 01:32 PM (V13WU)
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A basic tenant of Christianity is the need to go spread the gospel. It is a religion asking its adherents to evangelize the world. The Jews are not exempt. Jesus, who in human form was a Jew of course, told them they were missing the boat so to speak.

Now where man has screwed it up is when we have chosen to use the sword to support the message. The Spanish were particularly good at it.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 11, 2024 02:37 PM (UVyKP)

291 Israel is about to purposely starve a million children to death. Let's pull your best Jen Psaki and circle back to this grievous cheerleading of ethnic cleansing in a few months when Netanyahu has achieved his "Total Victory."

Posted by: Paul Kroenke at February 11, 2024 02:38 PM (9Ip8G)

292
The live on-air drooling meltdown I’ve been rooting for for a few years seems more likely now…. Popcorn
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

He may surprise everyone when he delivers the Stately Onion.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2024 02:44 PM (63Dwl)

293 I'm against giving either the israelis or the ukies one red cent. The israelis have had munitions, training and aid dollars falling out of the US's pocket for literally decades, yet they're incapable of dealing with the same insurgency they've been "handling" for the majority of their existence, which says the money and training is wasted on them. At some point, you're just throwing good money after bad, and if the israelis can't run a war on their own, that's not really my problem, notional ally or no. The ukies are just being used as a catspaw for grinding down post soviet ambitions, but that also isn't my problem either. Focus on domestic issues, not being the world police for an ally that can't get it's shit together or a catspaw that Europe wants.

Posted by: biff at February 11, 2024 02:54 PM (KeT6q)

294 >> Israel is about to purposely starve a million children to death. Let's pull your best Jen Psaki and circle back to this grievous cheerleading of ethnic cleansing in a few months when Netanyahu has achieved his "Total Victory."

Maybe Hamas should surrender. They are the ones keeping the war they started going. Or didn't you know that?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2024 02:56 PM (LkLld)

295 291 Israel is about to purposely starve a million children to death. Let's pull your best Jen Psaki and circle back to this grievous cheerleading of ethnic cleansing in a few months when Netanyahu has achieved his "Total Victory."

Posted by: Paul Kroenke at February 11, 2024 02:38 PM (9Ip8G)

So you didn't read a damned thing I wrote, and just came here to cheer-lead for the Nazis who brutalized innocents?

You are ignorant of the reality, yet you choose to support the terrorists. I find that telling, and sad.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2024 03:03 PM (gSZYf)

296 "Imagine if Russia or China had suffered an equivalent terrorist attack on its border."

i don't have to imagine what Russia would do. See: Grozny, 1994-5.

Posted by: Bones at February 11, 2024 03:05 PM (1JnfY)

297 295 291 Israel is about to purposely starve a million children to death. Let's pull your best Jen Psaki and circle back to this grievous cheerleading of ethnic cleansing in a few months when Netanyahu has achieved his "Total Victory."

Posted by: Paul Kroenke at February 11, 2024 02:38 PM (9Ip8G)

So you didn't read a damned thing I wrote, and just came here to cheer-lead for the Nazis who brutalized innocents?

You are ignorant of the reality, yet you choose to support the terrorists. I find that telling, and sad.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2024 03:03 PM (gSZYf)

I read everything you wrote. I made a statement of fact, without passing judgement in any way. Israel is in the process of starving a million children to death. If you disagree with that statement, feel free to rebut. Otherwise, take it as you will.

Posted by: Paul Kroenke at February 11, 2024 04:42 PM (9Ip8G)

298 >>I read everything you wrote. I made a statement of fact, without passing judgement in any way. Israel is in the process of starving a million children to death. If you disagree with that statement, feel free to rebut. Otherwise, take it as you will.

That's not the way it works. You claimed Israel is starving a million children to death. Back up your claim with facts.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2024 04:47 PM (LkLld)

299 298 >>I read everything you wrote. I made a statement of fact, without passing judgement in any way. Israel is in the process of starving a million children to death. If you disagree with that statement, feel free to rebut. Otherwise, take it as you will.

That's not the way it works. You claimed Israel is starving a million children to death. Back up your claim with facts.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2024 04:47 PM (LkLld)

Just watch

Posted by: Paul Kroenke at February 11, 2024 04:53 PM (9Ip8G)

300 I have 3 words I utter whenever I encounter people who believe the complicit media: Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden.
3 civilian cities destroyed by the US.

Posted by: Wingnutt at February 11, 2024 04:55 PM (eGkHo)

301 >>Just watch

Watch what? Hamas stealing the food and other supplies being trucked into Gaza? I've been watching for weeks. So has everyone else without an agenda.

What part of Hamas is a terrorist organization that uses the population of Gaza, many of whom elected them to lead their population, as human shields to get the sympathy of people like you still escapes you?

Did you know that hundreds of millions of US tax dollars have been funneled to Hamas through the UNRWA? Why do you keep supporting terrorist?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2024 04:56 PM (LkLld)

302 (eGkHo)

301 >>Just watch

Watch what? Hamas stealing the food and other supplies being trucked into Gaza? I've been watching for weeks. So has everyone else without an agenda.

What part of Hamas is a terrorist organization that uses the population of Gaza, many of whom elected them to lead their population, as human shields to get the sympathy of people like you still escapes you?

Did you know that hundreds of millions of US tax dollars have been funneled to Hamas through the UNRWA? Why do you keep supporting terrorist?

I don't support any of our money going to either of them. They want to slaughter each other, so be it. I don't want to see it or fund EITHER side.

In the meantime, the death by starvation of a million children IS what we are beginning to watch, and about to continue to watch, slowly and excruciatingly surely. I don't think you can really argue anything but that is about to happen. As much as we are allowed to see anyway.

Posted by: Paul Kroenke at February 11, 2024 05:03 PM (9Ip8G)

303 Kurt Schlichter's new book, The Attack is about exactly this point. What would Americans do if they suffered Islamic terrorist casualties on a scale normalized to our population.

Americans will cross a frozen river in the middle of the night and kill you in your bed. On Christmas morning. We've done it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 01:04 PM (S6gqv)
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A very good book.

Heck of a good read.
Posted by: Diogenes

So, based on that, I bought the paperback so it can't be stolen.

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