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Gun Thread: Super Bowling Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Flaming Shitballs! Super Bowl Sunday! Are you a 49ers or Chiefs fan? Neither? Neither, you say? Are you not interested in the teams playing today, or are you just not interested in the NFL? Either way, you can consider this an open thread to discuss the game if you like!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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Did you choose neither regarding the teams above? Weasel is in the neither camp and has been for many years. I'm sure there are some standup guys in the NFL, but there sure do seem to be a lot of what could charitably be described as overpaid prima-donnas who aren't exactly good role models. That, and with the league's firm embrace of woke bullshit and you have a product I'm surprised anyone is interested in. And what the heck happened to guys like Dick Butkus, Larry Czonka, Bart Starr and John Unitas? I believe the game went to shit about the time the goal posts were moved to the back of the end zone.

What do you think? Football fan or not?

Anyhoo, it's a moot point, because this smart kitty already predicts the winner!

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Range Time!

Our pal Catch Thirty-Thr33 heads to the range after battling TSA!

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This is the damage done with the M9

Back on February 1 I stopped by my beloved Top Gun Range in Houston to get in some badly needed range time. This was my first shooting since the TX MoMe, so it was long overdue. What I had with me was the M9, the Sig P226 Tacops, and the M18.

To open this, I should point out the transport of my trio of guns. I checked in my firearms and was told my locks were not TSA compliant. This I countered with the fact that they absolutely were, as they were issued to me by the military to transport an M4 rifle to the Middle East a decade ago. That ended that. Then I went through security, and my bag was flagged because apparently TSA never has seen a nebulizer before (this airport always gives my carry-on extra inspection because of the nebulizer; no others have thus far). In the midst of this, TSA paged me because they wanted to open my case for closer inspection. So I turned in the keys to TSA and they inspected the Pelican case further. They found no issues so they gave me the keys back and on I went. Moral of the story: you never know what will happen once you drop off your guns for transport, and different airports do different things.

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This is after 80 more rounds with the Sig P226 Tacops

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Finally, after 102 rounds through the M18, here is how the target looked. The first 17 rounds were disappointing. But I settled down and made the next 85 count

In Houston I bought 300 rounds; I took 7 with me in a TSA approved case so that I could fire 105 through the M9, and 102 through the M18. The Sig P226 Tacops having a 20 round magazine, that math was simple. One hundred rounds would go through it. After the setup, time for the games to begin. As usual, two to the chest, one to the head. I changed things each time I completed the three rounds, though. First, one eye open, two hands on the gun. Next, both eyes open, both hands on the gun. (It may sound strange, but with both eyes open, aiming the gun, I see two guns, not one. This is why I shut one eye typically. But I do this because I have no expectation that any bad guy I run across will permit me to get into the most advantageous position for the sake of honor.) Next, one handed, both eyes open. Then one handed, one eye open. And , because I may not be in the best position when called upon to use a handgun, I switch to the left hand. Depending on how many rounds I have, I decide if I use both eyes or one eye. But I put myself through both configurations at least once. I also fired only at 3 yards (or meters?) and 7 yards (meters?) as these are most likely the ranges I would expect to be when shooting for real. Sure, the 15 yard mark might be good to try out, but I only had 307 rounds for this outing. In the case of the M18, I was so disappointed in my first 17 round outing with it, I kept the target at the 3 yard position to make sure I had it nailed down. My shooting improved but that first outing told me to focus on the short range instead before taking it out further.

It was a good day at the range and eventually I want to get to the point where I am hitting the range at least once a month to maintain proficiency. But for now, this will do.

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RI Red and His Range Laboratory

Guess who has been back to the range with his scientist hat on? Go ahead, guess! Why, it's none other than our pal RI Red! Below we have another of his exhaustive reports and photographic evidence of the range trip result.

This time I did my Eley Match v. Wolf v. SK Rifle Match. For the first time ever, my Ruger Precision Rimfire outshot my Christiansen Ranger.
5 shot groups, the Ruger with SK did a ragged hole .233!

I suppose the test target is worth a thousand words, which is exactly my philosophy on shooting. Let the results speak for themselves.

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Are you practicing, and are you practicing your fundamentals?

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Optics on Handguns Part Dos
Last week I included a video linked here on the subject of optics on handguns, and a lively discussion ensued. This week I am following up on the topic with a discussion of typical engagement distances. The 2nd video addresses the question but the whole thing makes much more sense if you watch the first video, well, first.

Get to watchin'!

Do you need a red dot?

The true distance of a typical gunfight

Questions? Comments? Concerns?

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Seeing What You're Shooting At
I'm told old people's eyeballs dry out which potentially raises issues with seeing what they're shooting at. Although I personally unaffected by this condition, I guess I can understand why it would be a problemo.

Here is a super relax-o calm guy talking about the issue and offering solutions. No mention of wearing glasses?

Here is some more info for all you old people because WeaselCares

Walking Cane Mistakes to Avoid

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Not interested in the big game, tired of my retarded shit, and looking for something to watch? How's about this 1954 Cult Classic Devil Girl from Mars"?

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Musical Interlude
Here is the story of "I'm Not in Love" by 10cc.

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Gun Basics 101
New video from the She Equips Herself gal! This week's video is on guns and holsters.

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Cigar of the Week
Cigar reviews returning soon! In the meantime, how are you lighting your cigars?

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2005 Zippo from the WeaselCollection

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo NEW!

***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal weaselisaretardandcannotrecallwhichcommenterrecommendedthis. Great one!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

2 Xbang

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2024 07:00 PM (NxC5+)

3 Gub!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 11, 2024 07:00 PM (V8he0)

4 And, First!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

5 Pew, pew, pew!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 07:00 PM (hOUT3)

6 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:01 PM (yRXSd)

7 4 And, First!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState


And a well done one!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 07:01 PM (hOUT3)

8 Good evening horde!

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 07:03 PM (IQ6Gq)

9 Love the armalite ad. Biscuits and bullets, baby!

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:04 PM (Fk7W1)

10 TRex, hope you and Grateful are well.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:05 PM (Fk7W1)

11 And the good news is that the good folks at Ken Farrell sent me back the right size scope base (thanks again, Winchester), and all is well. Now to mount teh scope...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 07:05 PM (Wnv9h)

12 Good evening everyone
See Hawaii has declared the 2nd Amendment pretty much null and void.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2024 07:07 PM (fwDg9)

13 Hi all.
I want to say I sent you the Armalite picture but it might've been another MGC member who shared it.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 07:07 PM (t/2Uw)

14 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:08 PM (IFNME)

15 11 And the good news is that the good folks at Ken Farrell sent me back the right size scope base (thanks again, Winchester), and all is well. Now to mount teh scope...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 07:05 PM (Wnv9h)


Get an inch-pound torque screwdriver. I got this one:

https://a.co/d/f7SMipT

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:10 PM (IFNME)

16 Wow the gun thread falls on the same day as the Superb Owl AGAIN!

What a coincidence!

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:11 PM (IFNME)

17 Get an inch-pound torque screwdriver. I got this one:

https://a.co/d/f7SMipT
Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:10 PM


Thanks - I'll check that one out. I do need one.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 07:11 PM (Wnv9h)

18 So far this game is boring.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 07:13 PM (XV/Pl)

19 So, after successfully cleaning and oiling the Glock and having it perform perfectly at the range, I bought another one. It is lily lilac and MOS so I can put the Holosun I want on it. After trying Walthers, Sigs, S&W, I figured out that I shoot best with the Glock 48. It's back ordered though so won't get it til early March. Can't wait.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 07:15 PM (t/2Uw)

20 A fine range trip today, as Mrs. Splunge and I re-imprint the fundamentals we learned ages ago back onto our hands and eyes. She is doing better than I am, making nice groups with her trusty S&W J-frame revolver, and struggling a bit with her little Glock, while still getting nice groups.

Meantime, there I was starting out with lousy groups and too many few fliers, until I got reminders of the fundamentals of a trigger squeeze through my idiot head, and then things tightened up quite nicely.

Meanwhile, Mrs Splunge says that her Glock 43 is banging into a particularly protruding bone at the inside base of her thumb. She seems to be holding it well, and the back of the Glock is nice and rounded and smooth, so some sort of anatomy conflict? Anyone have any ideas about that?

Posted by: Splunge at February 11, 2024 07:17 PM (RJRgO)

21 Armalite lady needs to work on her trigger discipline.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 07:17 PM (AwEHw)

22 12
'See Hawaii has declared the 2nd Amendment pretty much null and void.'

I'd like to declare their state leadership null and void. Just kick them out, downgrade Hawaii to territory status and tell them to try again.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 07:17 PM (roH4R)

23 Hey!

Posted by: RI Red at February 11, 2024 07:17 PM (EV7hC)

24 Howdy, all!
I spent almost all of this past week at the farm and the weather cooperated nicely, so I was able to get in a significant amount of range time. Practiced on the fundamentals and also tried my hand at point shooting, with mixed results. I kept subconsciously trying to acquire my sights instead of pointing at the target. When I forced myself not to try to pick up a sight picture, I did much better. And the 1911 justified its reputation of having a natural point of aim.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at February 11, 2024 07:18 PM (PWe8a)

25 Armalite lady needs to work on her trigger discipline.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 07:17 PM


Seriously. That's a Darwin Award waiting to happen.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 07:18 PM (Wnv9h)

26 10 TRex, hope you and Grateful are well.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:05 PM

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(waves to Ben Had) Howdy! Doing well here. Hope all good for you too.

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 07:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

27 Hey!
Posted by: RI Red at February 11, 2024 07:17 PM


Evenin', Red!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 07:19 PM (Wnv9h)

28 I can't believe that I'm sitting here watching the Superbowl and perusing the gun thread. My granddaughter and her boyfriend came over to watch and snack. Anyway, I plan to go to the shooting gallery tomorrow after a hiatus of 2 or 3 months. Not sure what I will take, probably two or three pistols of various calibers.

Posted by: Pod Hamp at February 11, 2024 07:19 PM (GjNDo)

29 I don't think that Armalite ad is an actual 1950s vintage ad. The AR-15 shown has too many post-1960 features for it to be real. Among the ones I can see are:
- 30 round curved magazine (circa 1970)
- Ribbed hemispherical handguards (circa 1966 w/ XM177 series carbines)
- Brass deflector next to ejection port (circa 1984 from the M16A2)
- Fencing around the magazine release button and forward bolt assist (circa 1968 from the M16A1)

None of this changes the fact that I think the ad is a good one.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:20 PM (yRXSd)

30 I just want to see the guy who looks like an insurance salesman win. Couple weeks ago I had to send his picture to my son and ask why everyone was making fun of him. When I learned who he was, I said"He's a football player?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 07:20 PM (t/2Uw)

31 19 So far this game is boring.

55 yard field goal!

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 07:22 PM (roH4R)

32 I reported last time that I had put MP5 clone sights on an EP9 and that the front sight post was too low and looked cool but did not work. I had the sadz. I ordered a 1/2 inch pic rail riser during the thread to remedy.

Well, turns out I need about a .35 inch riser. Gah. They don't make smaller risers. So failed experiment. BUT - turns out I could adjust it up a little more, and it works! But now the detent pin that holds it in place fell out because it won't hold at that height. If it's not one thing its another.

But I am going to superglue it. A little hacky, yes. But did I mention it looks cool?

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:22 PM (IFNME)

33 What is a nebulizer? Who needs one and why - Medical News Today
A nebulizer is a medical device that delivers liquid medicine into the lungs for people with certain respiratory conditions. Learn who needs one, how to use it, how to maintain it, and how it differs from an inhaler.
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I didn't know.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 07:22 PM (2yu8s)

34 Range report

Went with son#1 to our regular indoor range, met up with Mark Andrew Edwards and LazyMessenger. He was shooting his M&P Shield in .40 and I took out the G19 as I hadn't shot it in more than a couple years.

Son has improved a TON since he first started shooting. He practices dry firing at home with his red dot so he can see if he flinched. Then he shoots at the range without it.

Well. I can honestly say I do not like the G19. I don't like the feel or the trigger or the accuracy. It's a big yucky brick and I can't stand it. So much for Glocks. I still like the teeny G42, but I'll never buy another Glock. I much prefer my 1911s or the Walther PPQ.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 07:23 PM (AwEHw)

35 I don't care who scores the most baskets, the Chieftains or the Ninety fours. It's all the same to me.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at February 11, 2024 07:23 PM (PWe8a)

36 The Sig P226 Tacops having a 20 round magazine, that math was simple.
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I was told there would be no math.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 07:23 PM (2yu8s)

37 * hands nurse a revolver *

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:25 PM (Fk7W1)

38 20 A fine range trip today, as Mrs. Splunge and I re-imprint the fundamentals we learned ages ago back onto our hands and eyes. She is doing better than I am, making nice groups with her trusty S&W J-frame revolver, and struggling a bit with her little Glock, while still getting nice groups....

Posted by: Splunge at February 11, 2024 07:17 PM (RJRgO)


Ding ding ding ding ding! You said the gun thread's secret word!

You win a week's supply of ampersands!

&& &&&& & &&& &&& &

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:25 PM (IFNME)

39 Fumblelaya!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 07:26 PM (XV/Pl)

40 Nice shooting RI Red and Catch 33! Nice holes all close together, what's not to love.

This week was SubGun week, all 9mm. The MKA 760 shined and ran like a scalded dog...hot and fast, no hiccups. The CMMG Banshee was king of the hill, just a no brainer with the Primary Arms GLx2x. Hits and just keeps hitting, even on mag dumps with the F/A AR lower. The CMMG 9mm magazines for AR type mags works very well. The Sten Gun was chugging up from the rear but I love that little ugly mofo. Zero is on at 25 yards and she is so simple you can't keep her from running if you tried. Shot about 500 rounds doing run n gun and will re-visit in a week or 2 to recheck zeros and dump another 500.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 07:27 PM (R/m4+)

41 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 07:15 PM (t/2Uw)

Sharon, are you interested in the modified Glock B&T unveiled at the 2024 SHOT Show? It's a Glock 19 with an Aimpoint Accro integral to the slide, a super compact wipe suppressor, and a slide lock mechanism to allow for maximum noise suppression (no movement of the slide while shooting) when using subsonic ammo. Unfortunately, it'll come with a B&T price tag. Forgotten Weapons has a short 90 second video about it.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:27 PM (yRXSd)

42 Tay Tay?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 11, 2024 07:28 PM (NBVIP)

43 I don't smoke cigars but do have a glass of cognac to partake while reading this thread.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2024 07:29 PM (fwDg9)

44 Target practice is great but can you shoot your dinner? I honestly don't mean this sarcastically.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:31 PM (Fk7W1)

45 Sharon, are you interested in the modified Glock B&T unveiled at the 2024 SHOT Show? It's a Glock 19 with an Aimpoint Accro integral to the slide, a super compact wipe suppressor, and a slide lock mechanism to allow for maximum noise suppression (no movement of the slide while shooting) when using subsonic ammo. Unfortunately, it'll come with a B&T price tag. Forgotten Weapons has a short 90 second video about it.
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:27 PM (yRXSd)


Is it available in lilac?

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:31 PM (IFNME)

46 No range time this week because all the gear is still packed up from the move but I did get my CMP 1911 from the FFL. For being a "Service Grade" I admit that I'm slightly disappointed. There is currently a "Field Grade" one on Gunbroker that looks nicer. It's a Colt frame and Ithaca slide. The serial number makes it 1943 so a legit war baby and a piece of history.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 07:31 PM (sNc8Y)

47 Watching the game so I will read these later. I am looking to buy a 12 gauge. Burning question: pump vs. semi-auto. This will be used for upland birds.

Posted by: Lost in Space at February 11, 2024 07:31 PM (pEjjQ)

48 44 Target practice is great but can you shoot your dinner? I honestly don't mean this sarcastically.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:31 PM (Fk7W1)


If I shoot this Caroll Shelby Chili it would be messy.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:32 PM (IFNME)

49 Although I personally unaffected by this condition, ...
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I find the crying jags help me too, Weasel.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 07:33 PM (2yu8s)

50 I heard Taylor Swift is losing to SF.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2024 07:34 PM (AJDwy)

51 Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:31 PM (IFNME)

B&T is well known for doing custom orders and short production runs. As long as you're willing to pay what they'll charge you, they can do it.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:34 PM (yRXSd)

52 Nothing gun related this week. Bummer! But concerning Zippo lighters. I use a Zippo pipe lighter. I see mention all the time that the lighter fluid taints the taste of the pipe tobacco. One even said it gave him a headache. To which I reply: BS. There may be one or two nose sensitive souls who are effected but I doubt it. I think some uber-purist came up with this one many years ago. "Wooden matches are the only thing to use to light a pipe, don't you know. And we all know the kind of unwashed who use Zippo lighters." (He shudders) Pipe smokers, as a group, are quite mellow but there are always a few in any group who think their personal preferences are laws of the universe.
Mini-rant over.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2024 07:35 PM (zudum)

53 Blaster. Good point and that's what I get for poor wording.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:35 PM (Fk7W1)

54 At some point, I'm going stop trying to figure out Sig models and just "pull the trigger." Is it a 365XL, P320, P226, P229? How about a legion, nitro or Romeo? Geez.

Impressed with those who can keep track of it all.

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 07:36 PM (IQ6Gq)

55 44 Target practice is great but can you shoot your dinner? I honestly don't mean this sarcastically.
Posted by: Ben Had

I think I probably could, with some tutoring. But I am squeamish about killing mammals. Things from the sea, no problem. But birds and mammals? I don't know.

I have guns for protection. And I don't think I would have any problem pulling the trigger on someone directly threatening me or my boys or my daughter in law.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 07:36 PM (W8VzH)

56 Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2024 07:35 PM (zudum)
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Agreed!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2024 07:37 PM (7G5R7)

57 54 At some point, I'm going stop trying to figure out Sig models and just "pull the trigger." Is it a 365XL, P320, P226, P229? How about a legion, nitro or Romeo? Geez.

Impressed with those who can keep track of it all.
Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 07:36 PM (IQ6Gq

You have to do some serious research.

I just wanted a version with external safeties.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2024 07:37 PM (AJDwy)

58 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 07:27 PM
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A genuine Sten or a modified one, HG?

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 07:37 PM (2yu8s)

59 Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 07:31 PM (sNc8Y)

The Colt Forum message board had a thread which described how you could submit a FOIA request on your pistol's serial number. The FOIA request will get you the full history about what unit your pistol was assigned to from about 1975 until it went to CMP for final disposition. I think it's worth checking out.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:38 PM (yRXSd)

60 Ah, there was a day when I was a big NFL guy, when I was a huge fan of the Broncos, as I lived in Denver at an impressionable age and was, as many of the boys I went to school with, huge fans of the great QB John Elway. There was a time that no matter what, I made time for the Super Bowl and the playoffs, and a time when I ran smack at everybody in regards to football. As late as 2019 I made a visit to the Pro Football Hall of Fame and took time out to pay tribute to each of the Broncos inducted there to that point.

Now? Not watching the game. The last I saw was Super Bowl LIV. Don't know what's going on in the NFL, don't care. But you see, I used the NFL to get AWAY from politics and other more serious business crowding my mind. It was an escape. When it stopped being that it lost its value. I'd love to follow the game again; I still love football and have taken to watching old NFL Films shows on YT. But...

And the Washington Commanders should change their name to the Washington Red Guards.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 07:39 PM (8sMut)

61 54 At some point, I'm going stop trying to figure out Sig models and just "pull the trigger." Is it a 365XL, P320, P226, P229? How about a legion, nitro or Romeo? Geez.

Impressed with those who can keep track of it all.
Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 07:36 PM (IQ6Gq)


Let me help:

2 series pistols are like air cooled v water cooled. Nitro = base, Legion = Turbo, Romeo = Sport Chrono.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:39 PM (IFNME)

62 Love your work. glad to have another one of the right days off work to comment.

That m9 photo looks like an aggregate of my 3 rabbits (#0 birdshot) from Friday evening. One day I hope to hit more that I miss.

Chilled afterwards with an H. Upmann coronas major. I lit it with the guts of a zippo in a star lighter shell whose design I hated, so I gave it a personalised distressed look.

Posted by: nato at February 11, 2024 07:39 PM (ciuRb)

63 nurse, this is why appreciate all the hard work you are putting in on the IDPA element of the. MOME.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:41 PM (Fk7W1)

64 I should note, up above: when I was told my locks were not TSA compliant, that was by some Southwest Airlines agent. When I told her about the origin and the travails of the locks that adorned the Pelican case, that shut her up. TSA had no issues with the locks, and never have.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 07:41 PM (8sMut)

65 Dear Gun Thread Staff,

Have you given weaselisaretardandcannotrecallwhichcommenterrecommendedthis a "doesnotpayattentioninclass" mark on his permanent record yet?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 07:42 PM (a3Q+t)

66 I am looking forward to watching the red dot videos when I can. My gun dealer is trying to convince me how wonderful they are, and I am being stubborn so far. Iron sights don't run out of batteries, as far as I know. But maybe they're as great as he says?

Posted by: Splunge at February 11, 2024 07:42 PM (RJRgO)

67 Posted by: nato at February 11, 2024 07:39 PM (ciuRb)
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Howdy and welcome!!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2024 07:42 PM (RG6z4)

68 44 Target practice is great but can you shoot your dinner? I honestly don't mean this sarcastically.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:31 PM (Fk7W1)


I can, but I don't. Because I don't like to eat squirrel, possum, cat, or small birds!

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 07:42 PM (5fDan)

69 The G48 MOS (purple) is $600 including shipping to my FFL. It has a 10 rd mag which is legal in MD. For $399 I can put a top of the line Holosun green dot on it so price complete $1000. The research I did was helpful, in that I found out I can pick up almost any 9mm semi and shoot it relatively accurately but I shoot best with the G48 which just fits my hand. Almost everything I tried was around $1000 without a sight. Ones with were in the $1600 range. I decided to stop thinking and just do. i am sure it is not the last gun I will ever buy. I really liked Ed's P226 MK25. There may be something similar in my future. But right now I am looking forward to running the course in Texas with the new Glock.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 07:42 PM (t/2Uw)

70 Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 07:42 PM (a3Q+t)
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Naturally!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2024 07:43 PM (RG6z4)

71 Yes the agents at the airports do things differently! The regulation for locks is that they do not have to be TSA compliant but can be. sra blaster and I flew into NOLA and the case just came on the regular conveyor belt - no one checked ids to pick it up.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:43 PM (IFNME)

72 Turns out I have the dry eye problem (I'm sure old enough) although I wasn't aware of it. It came out when I had the cataract surgery a few months ago. The surgeon recommended Oasis Artificial Tears as part of the recovery and for general use. They work great. I'm finding I need to use them about once every day or three.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2024 07:44 PM (zudum)

73 Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 07:36 PM (IQ6Gq)

TRex,

Quick and dirty guide to the basic SIG models:
320: Full sized polymer frame (includes M17 and M1
365: Small sized polymer frame
226: Full sized steel frame. Includes USN Mark 25.
229: Compact steel frame. Includes M11A1.

Everything else adds additional features, bells, and whistles. I believe the Legion pistols are SIG's "Cadillac" guns with just about everything you can imagine on them.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:45 PM (yRXSd)

74 I am looking to buy a 12 gauge. Burning question: pump vs. semi-auto. This will be used for upland birds.

Sure you want a 12 for birds? Just askin'.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 11, 2024 07:46 PM (V8he0)

75 I got a Legion 226 two years back.

I love the gun muchly.

They give you some dumb stuff like a coin and a carry bag still I think.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2024 07:46 PM (AJDwy)

76 Quick and dirty guide to the basic SIG models:
320: Full sized polymer frame


Too quick too dirty because 320 comes in full size, carry, compact, and subcompact....

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:47 PM (IFNME)

77 And the Washington Commanders should change their name to the Washington Red Guards.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 07:39 PM (8sMut)

They'll always be the Deadskins to me.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:47 PM (yRXSd)

78 I just wanted a version with external safeties.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2024 07:37 PM


Easy peasy. The Sig factory label on the case will have "MS" as the last two characters of the descriptor for models like the P365 if it has an external safety.

Or simply ask your friendly gun store staff if they have what you're looking for.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 07:47 PM (a3Q+t)

79 61 Let me help:

2 series pistols are like air cooled v water cooled. Nitro = base, Legion = Turbo, Romeo = Sport Chrono.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:39 PM
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Now you're talking my language!

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 07:48 PM (IQ6Gq)

80 I just put the battery in and turned on a cheapish Holosun red dot sight but I haven't attached it to anything yet.

It turned on fine and the brightness + and - work fine.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 07:48 PM (2yu8s)

81 71 Yes the agents at the airports do things differently! The regulation for locks is that they do not have to be TSA compliant but can be. sra blaster and I flew into NOLA and the case just came on the regular conveyor belt - no one checked ids to pick it up.
Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:43 PM (IFNME)

When I got to SAT I was on the way to the SWA baggage office where I knew my case would go, and as I was on my way there, they paged me, for the case had arrived. Showed thm my ID, picked it up, and was off.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 07:48 PM (8sMut)

82 Notorious, I really like my 20gauge for birds squirrels and rabbits.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:49 PM (Fk7W1)

83 Evening All!! Sorry for the lateness, caught up doing things other than watching a game on tv.

Nice shooting there Catch33!!!

Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 11, 2024 07:49 PM (f0/sc)

84 Touchdown 9'rs

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 07:50 PM (XV/Pl)

85 10-0 49ers

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 07:50 PM (5fDan)

86 I really wish the neighbors would either fence or leash their stupid dogs. I'd really hate to have to shoot one like I almost did yesterday.
Damn thing came up on the grands in the yard like she was going to go over the fence and attack. Would have been it's last mistake. Had it in my sights halfway across the street and it stopped after hitting the fence, barked a bunch until I went after it with my foot while maintaining a bead.
Owner came out, it went home and I read him the riot act. Threatened to call the pound/cops if I saw it loose again. Dude is out of jail on bail right now so he want's nothing to do with the the sheriff department. I'm hoping he goes away for a long time. Harboring a fugitive. Hell, his place is the reason I open carry all the time now on my property.
Haven't seen he nor it since.

Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 07:50 PM (B705c)

87 Watching Hitman, no TayTay.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2024 07:51 PM (NxC5+)

88 But maybe they're as great as he says?

I've been holding out too but I am curious. I shot my nephew's G-something* with one and it seemed OK but it will take a lot more hands-on time to really decide. I'm thinking my next non-rifle purchase might be a G-19 MOS.

* the one that looks like a G-17 but isn't for some reason that escapes me

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 07:51 PM (sNc8Y)

89 Notorious, I really like my 20gauge for birds squirrels and rabbits.

My thought, as well.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 11, 2024 07:51 PM (V8he0)

90 85 10-0 49ers
Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 07:50 PM (5fDan

Really hope I get my puking Swift wish!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2024 07:52 PM (AJDwy)

91
Nice shooting there Catch33!!!
Posted by: Scuba Dude at February 11, 2024 07:49 PM (f0/sc

Agreed!

A few range babes though.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2024 07:53 PM (AJDwy)

92 90 85 10-0 49ers
Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 07:50 PM (5fDan

Really hope I get my puking Swift wish!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2024 07:52 PM (AJDwy)


4:23 remaining in the 1st Half

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 07:54 PM (5fDan)

93 I have been doing homework on the P320 because I discovered the P226 Legion RXP (Legion with a Romeo Pro dot) and then I saw the P320 RXP was about 2/3 the price, and I shot a P320 a little better than a trio of P226s (including one I own!). Plus it's the 21st century now.

But the P320 RXP is NOT a Legion gun. Gah. sra blaster says maybe a Father's Day gift so I will find out in June.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:54 PM (IFNME)

94 Whoever played a prop bet on Juan Jennings throwing the first TD is now semi-rich. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 11, 2024 07:54 PM (V8he0)

95 Top100?
Good evening everyone!!

Posted by: Coelacanth at February 11, 2024 07:55 PM (wItF4)

96 Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:47 PM (IFNME)

The 320s are confusing to me because the fire control mechanism is the firearm, not the frame it resides in. If you don't like the frame you got, you can order another, remove your fire control mechanism from the one frame and put it right into the other without any tools (supposedly).

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:55 PM (yRXSd)

97 Taylor jinxed the Chiefs. Hahaha.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:56 PM (Fk7W1)

98 Now you're talking my language!
Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 07:48 PM (IQ6Gq)


Ich weiss!

Figured it would help!

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 07:56 PM (IFNME)

99 A genuine Sten or a modified one, HG?
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 07:37 PM (2yu8s)

It's a Charlie Erb tube with surplus everything else. A Mark II so the barrel change is nice and easy.

Charlie Erb is still alive I think. Charlie made lots of F/A items.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 07:56 PM (R/m4+)

100 Dang, I can't imagine how much it would cost to fix that zippo if it broke.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 07:57 PM (WF0+t)

101 The NFL, and all pro sports really, is dead to me and has been for years. They can take their constant woke smug lectures and PR stunts and stick them up their collective butts. The Super Bowl is just another example with more hype.

HOWEVER, I know there are fans among the Horde, like Jewells for the Chiefs. For their sake, I hope they enjoy their game.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2024 07:57 PM (zudum)

102 A fine night for a gun thread!
Thank you Weasel!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 07:58 PM (TDl5K)

103 Owner came out, it went home and I read him the riot act. Threatened to call the pound/cops if I saw it loose again. Dude is out of jail on bail right now so he want's nothing to do with the the sheriff department.
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What color pit bulls?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 07:58 PM (WF0+t)

104 Better half as the game muted, I'm thankful.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 07:59 PM (TDl5K)

105 If you don't like the frame you got, you can order another, remove your fire control mechanism from the one frame and put it right into the other without any tools (supposedly).
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:55 PM


And if you don't have
the frame you love, baby,
love the one you're with.
Love the you're with.

Don't have personal experience with the P320, but the statement is true for the P365 family, so I expect it's true.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 07:59 PM (a3Q+t)

106 CBS seems to be running a lot of ads for their own teevee shows.

Is this something?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 07:59 PM (f5+z9)

107 Awwwhh, that black and white couple gave birth to an Asian baby.

Now that's internalizing DEI.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 08:00 PM (XV/Pl)

108 The 320s are confusing to me because the fire control mechanism is the firearm, not the frame it resides in. If you don't like the frame you got, you can order another, remove your fire control mechanism from the one frame and put it right into the other without any tools (supposedly).
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 07:55 PM (yRXSd)


Yeah, so Wilson Combat (and no doubt others) are making complete replacement everything but the FC guns...

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:00 PM (IFNME)

109 Yes the agents at the airports do things differently!

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hahaha, that's such a polite way of saying "no actual standards and essentially just a massive federal makework program that exists for union votes and money laundering"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:01 PM (WF0+t)

110 Let’s just say it’s good to be armed if your going to theTop Gun range.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 08:01 PM (MNhXM)

111 Taylor jinxed the Chiefs. Hahaha.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 07:56 PM (Fk7W1)

I hope he beats her ass since he can't beat the niners.

Just kidding I don't approve of that stuff. It's terrible. Terrible.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2024 08:01 PM (lX8VI)

112 I'm late. I just got over a nap from working 20 hours this weekend for work.

Having said that, it means I get a full day off this week, and I'm going shooting.

Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:02 PM (32nmx)

113
106 CBS seems to be running a lot of ads for their own teevee shows.

Is this something?
Posted by: nurse ratched"

Usually that means there was a bunch of ad time they couldn't sell.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 08:02 PM (S6gqv)

114 60 ... "And the Washington Commanders should change their name to the Washington Red Guards."

I was a serious Redskins fan for decades. Since the Redskins don't exist anymore, neither does the fan base. A more appropriate name change would have been the Washington Tyrants.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2024 08:02 PM (zudum)

115 Who likes the Ruger LCR snubbie in 22LR for carry in yer pocket?

Won't drop some but might stop one.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 11, 2024 08:02 PM (KiBMU)

116 Just bookmarked two biography sites about Charlie Erb. Thanks, HG.

Did you need a special licence for it?

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:03 PM (2yu8s)

117 The Gun Bowl

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:03 PM (8sMut)

118
Is this something?
Posted by: nurse ratched"

Usually that means there was a bunch of ad time they couldn't sell.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Agree, to me it means that the NFL is still charging the networks more than the viewership warrants.
Die DEI die.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 08:04 PM (TDl5K)

119 CBS seems to be running a lot of ads for their own teevee shows.

Is this something?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 07:59 PM


It's not like anyone will see the ads.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 08:05 PM (Wnv9h)

120 hahaha, that's such a polite way of saying "no actual standards and essentially just a massive federal makework program that exists for union votes and money laundering"
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:01 PM (WF0+t)


As Catch said not really TSA in the mix - most of this is handled by the airlines. Flying out of IAD on United, they had a checklist that a supervisor had to observe and countersign. On Southwest, well, they did not seem to have an actual procedure so much.

Out of DFW it was very efficient.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:06 PM (IFNME)

121 Cool Kennedy ad.

It's nostalgic and hearkens back to a simpler more recognizable time.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 08:06 PM (XV/Pl)

122 IMO a 22 at best will piss someone off more, has to be bigger and still worth carrying

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2024 08:06 PM (fwDg9)

123 ||Although there are a few original Stens in the NFA system, most of the Sten guns in private hands today were assembled from original part kits and a new U.S.-manufactured receiver tube. According to federal law, no original receiver foreign guns could be registered after 1968, but a new receiver could be manufactured and used to assemble a working submachine gun—after, of course, BATF approval. Unfortunately, laws were passed in 1986 ending any new (transferable) registration of machine guns.||

Background.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:06 PM (2yu8s)

124 Who likes the Ruger LCR snubbie in 22LR for carry in yer pocket?

Won't drop some but might stop one.
Posted by: Mr Gaga

Based on the encounters I've read about just firing back causes explosive decompress of the bad guys colons.
Caliber doesn't seem to matter just shooting back.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 08:06 PM (TDl5K)

125 Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 07:59 PM (a3Q+t)

I understand that the US Army demanded this feature for the M17 pistol competition. Since SIG was the only bidder that delivered exactly what the Army wanted, that's why SIG won.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:07 PM (yRXSd)

126 What color pit bulls?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 07:58 PM (WF0+t)

Some kind of black, gray and brown Dingo looking thing. Pretty sure she just had puppies. Which might account for the aggressive behavior.
I want my old people neighborhood back. This trash that has come in and turned my hood to shit can F the F off.

Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 08:07 PM (B705c)

127 PSA, dates for the TXMoMe are October 18th and 19th.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 08:08 PM (Fk7W1)

128 114 60 ... "And the Washington Commanders should change their name to the Washington Red Guards."

I was a serious Redskins fan for decades. Since the Redskins don't exist anymore, neither does the fan base. A more appropriate name change would have been the Washington Tyrants.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2024 08:02 PM (zudum)


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I agree with Slim Pickens that it should be the Kansas City Faggits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4qIJkKy-00

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 11, 2024 08:08 PM (xw1WS)

129 You know, I just realized...even IF I wanted to see the Super Bowl, I don't know how I would around here, for I have no cable, and no TV antenna, and even if I had the TV antenna, the common complaint is that in the age of all digital TV signals, much of the rural area cannot get over the air TV signals. Digital TV apparently having a shorter range than the good old analog signals.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:08 PM (8sMut)

130 SOROS SuoerBowl. !!
Kansas City "Swifties" vs San Francisco. "Family Values"
He was the one who paid off the refs to make those calls during the playoffs

Posted by: Paul banned at February 11, 2024 08:09 PM (loBTD)

131 And what the heck happened to guys like Dick Butkus, Larry Czonka, Bart Starr and John Unitas?
How about a real great guy: Roger Staubach?

Football lost its luster for me when Tom Landry retired.

Now on to the real content.

Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:09 PM (32nmx)

132 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Any bar.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 08:09 PM (TDl5K)

133 Did you need a special licence for it?
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:03 PM (2yu8s)

Just the regular NFA tax stamp, paperwork/background check and waiting up to a year for approval and your good to go. The tax stamp is $200.00 and once paid no need to renew or anything, it's good until you sell the NFA item.

Once a machine gun, always a machine gun is how the federales treat such things once it is registered as a full auto.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 08:09 PM (R/m4+)

134 PSA, dates for the TXMoMe are October 18th and 19th.
Posted by: Ben Had

Thank you!
This year in Corsicana!!!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 08:10 PM (TDl5K)

135 113
106 CBS seems to be running a lot of ads for their own teevee shows.

Is this something?
Posted by: nurse ratched"

Usually that means there was a bunch of ad time they couldn't sell.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 08:02 PM (S6gqv)


I am keeping the audio muted for the duration, so I don't have to hit the mute button for every ad break. Most of commercials I've peeked at look like Saturday morning cartoon with live actors.

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 08:10 PM (5fDan)

136 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 08:02 PM (S6gqv)

And a shortage of people/corporations willing to chuck $7M for a 30 second spot. A leading economic indicator?

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:11 PM (yRXSd)

137 125 Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 07:59 PM (a3Q+t)

I understand that the US Army demanded this feature for the M17 pistol competition. Since SIG was the only bidder that delivered exactly what the Army wanted, that's why SIG won.
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:07 PM (yRXSd)

Indeed, and my M18 features a safety.

I wonder why the US Army was so hell bent on getting a safety installed on a handgun...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:11 PM (8sMut)

138 10-3 Niners. 1st half is over.

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2024 08:11 PM (5fDan)

139 As Catch said not really TSA in the mix - most of this is handled by the airlines. Flying out of IAD on United, they had a checklist that a supervisor had to observe and countersign. On Southwest, well, they did not seem to have an actual procedure so much.

Out of DFW it was very efficient.
Posted by: blaster

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This is getting dangerously close to content in a post where I just wanted to make fun of the TSA.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:11 PM (WF0+t)

140 TxMoMe dates - hooray! On the calendar.

Now looking for a NoVa Mini-MoMe date...

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 08:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

141 Any bar.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 08:09 PM (TDl5K)

That right there is a minimum of 30 miles.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:12 PM (8sMut)

142 This is getting dangerously close to content in a post where I just wanted to make fun of the TSA.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:11 PM (WF0+t)


Oh by all means! Fire away!

So to speak.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:13 PM (IFNME)

143 Nice range plan, Catch Thirty-Thr33. I think I'd use more targets so you can see what sort of groups you're getting, every 30 rounds or so. But, nice shooting.

Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:14 PM (32nmx)

144 I wonder why the US Army was so hell bent on getting a safety installed on a handgun...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:11 PM (8sMut)

Lieutenants.

Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 08:14 PM (B705c)

145 How's the Usher concert going?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 11, 2024 08:16 PM (cRrcX)

146 136 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 08:02 PM (S6gqv)

And a shortage of people/corporations willing to chuck $7M for a 30 second spot. A leading economic indicator?
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:11 PM (yRXSd)

Possibly an indicator of the Super Bowl not being what it was and thus not justifying the $7 million price tag. Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest. And if people are unwilling to pay $7mil regardless of reason...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:16 PM (8sMut)

147 Is it significant that the second ad during the Super Bowl was for menopause medicine?

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:16 PM (IFNME)

148 PSA, dates for the TXMoMe are October 18th and 19th.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 11, 2024 08:08 PM


God willing, the RMBS Mom and I will be there!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 08:17 PM (Wnv9h)

149 Secretary Austin was just rushed to the hospital. Our enemies must be sharpening their swords. We are in deep shit!

Posted by: Unkaren at February 11, 2024 08:17 PM (lrv8s)

150 Lieutenants.
Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 08:14 PM (B705c)

Heh. I was gonna say soldiers in general... : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:17 PM (8sMut)

151 Shooting-wise, we didn't get to the range but have been getting the BB and pellet guns out more and more. They're lots of fun and cheap to feed, and everyone can practice skills and have a good time regardless of experience or ability level.

I'm trying to figure out a way to get the local church mens groups to start competing in a monthly shoot. There's a bunch of us who aren't quite as domesticated as the softball and golf bunch, and this would be a good way to gather together and fellowship.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:17 PM (WF0+t)

152 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:11 PM (8sMut)

Legacy of the M1911's time in service, I think. It's OK for guys like the SEALS and Delta to use SA/DA pistols without positive applied safeties like the 1911, but not Private Snuffy or Lieutenant Fuzz. Can't trust them with a loaded weapon that doesn't have a positive applied safety on it.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:18 PM (yRXSd)

153 147 Is it significant that the second ad during the Super Bowl was for menopause medicine?
Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:16 PM (IFNME)

I for one will never forget 84 Lumber's pro-open borders ad from SB LI in 2017.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:19 PM (8sMut)

154 Is it significant that the second ad during the Super Bowl was for menopause medicine?
Posted by: blaster

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I hope that the "if your tits smell like garbage after you haven't showered for three days, use this special $17 rub-on deodorant made especially for disgusting nasty=@ss women like you"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:19 PM (WF0+t)

155 Football lost its luster for me when Tom Landry retired.

Now on to the real content.
Posted by: GWB

IIRC, he was fired.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 08:19 PM (0Xe/H)

156 This is getting dangerously close to content in a post where I just wanted to make fun of the TSA.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:11 PM (WF0+t)

Oh by all means! Fire away!

So to speak.

Posted by: blaster

I don't mind if you want to take a shot at them.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:20 PM (t/2Uw)

157 153
'84 Lumber's pro-open borders ad'

Assholes.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 08:20 PM (roH4R)

158 Legacy of the M1911's time in service, I think. It's OK for guys like the SEALS and Delta to use SA/DA pistols without positive applied safeties like the 1911, but not Private Snuffy or Lieutenant Fuzz. Can't trust them with a loaded weapon that doesn't have a positive applied safety on it.
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:18 PM (yRXSd)

"Red Means Dead!", I remember from my M9 classes in the USAF.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:20 PM (8sMut)

159 I wonder why the US Army was so hell bent on getting a safety installed on a handgun...

Because they've had one since 1911 and change is scary?

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 08:20 PM (sNc8Y)

160 Our local range has an intro to steel shooting event:

Tired of standing in the booth? Feeling trapped, confined? Curious as to what downrange really feels like? It’s time to get moving. Join us for a special 2-hour session dedicated to the very thing people crave: competition. This introduction will focus on what to bring, what to expect and what to do. Etiquette, safety, gear requirements and gear placement along with tips and tricks from the very people that design the courses you run will be stressed in a relaxed setting. The session will end with a short course of fire, run exactly as it would during our Wednesday night steel shoots.

Requirements include 50 rds of non-frangible ammo and an OWB holster. BUT IT SOLD OUT WITHIN 24 hours of the announcement. Dang it.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:21 PM (IFNME)

161 huh, the last part of my comment disappeared. Weird.

"comes on" should be at the end of the "check your underboobs for maggots" comment.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:21 PM (WF0+t)

162 I'm trying to figure out a way to get the local church mens groups to start competing in a monthly shoot. There's a bunch of us who aren't quite as domesticated as the softball and golf bunch, and this would be a good way to gather together and fellowship.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:17 PM (WF0+t)

"Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" will have new meaning. : o )

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:22 PM (8sMut)

163 Does anyone have a Taurus PT99AF or similar out there?

A local fella has one for sale at a good price and I think I will have to liberate it from his possession.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 08:22 PM (R/m4+)

164 "Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" will have new meaning. : o )


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O_O

I've been trying to come up with some fun way to introduce it. Thank you. No joke, thank you.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:22 PM (WF0+t)

165 Now looking for a NoVa Mini-MoMe date...
Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 08:12 PM


Have you checked out the Hostel for Un- and Under-employed Victoria's Secret Angels located on the grounds of the WeaselAcres Organic and Free-Range Tree Farm?

Might find one there.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 08:23 PM (a3Q+t)

166 I'm trying to figure out a way to get the local church mens groups to start competing in a monthly shoot.
Posted by: Moron Robbie


Call the shooting group "2236". Or "Luke 22:36" if you need the long form.

Posted by: mikeski at February 11, 2024 08:23 PM (DgGvY)

167 149 Secretary Austin was just rushed to the hospital.

Posted by: Unkaren at February 11, 2024 08:17 PM (lrv8s)


Let's hope it's nothing trivial.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at February 11, 2024 08:24 PM (DTX3h)

168 Cant you just spray yourself all over with Febreeze?

Posted by: Guy who doesn't like baths at February 11, 2024 08:24 PM (vFG9F)

169 OK, I'll look at the videos in a bit. But they reminded me I grabbed a great deal on a Crimson Trace CTS-25 Electronic Red Dot Sight last week. On sale for $40 at PSA. So, the question is, what do I put it on?

My AR15? Do I put the even cheaper (when I bought it) off-brand on my AR and put this one on my .50 Beowulf? Do I need to build something entirely new just for the new optic?

I've nabbed some good deals in the last year on Crimson Trace stuff.

Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:24 PM (32nmx)

170
IIRC, he was fired.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 08:19 PM (0Xe/H)

Yep. Oh, do I remember the outrage. And, to be fair, Landry should never have been fired. That was handled to tactlessly...the first of many dumb moves by Jerry Jones.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:24 PM (8sMut)

171 Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 08:20 PM (sNc8Y)

If you've seen HQ staff officers downrange with their pistols, you'd understand why the Army wants everything it can get safety wise on a pistol. Doctors and medical staff are almost as bad when it comes to handling their pistols.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:25 PM (yRXSd)

172 Taiwan better be ready to fight. After Brandon’s performance and Austin’s hospitalization, I’d be concerned if I lived in Hong Kong!

Posted by: Unkaren at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM (lrv8s)

173 I thought Michael Jackson was dead.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM (roH4R)

174 Does anyone have a Taurus PT99AF or similar out there?

A local fella has one for sale at a good price and I think I will have to liberate it from his possession.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

--

A friend of mine has one or one that is just like it. A Beretta clone IIRC. It's his only firearm, bought for home defense only. He likes it but it's mostly just okay to me. Quality control seems spotty, which holds up in my experience with Taurus (revolvers great, semi autos hit or miss).

If it's a good price go for it, but if it's more than a couple of hundred dollars I'd put that money towards something else unless you shoot it and just absolutely love it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM (WF0+t)

175 My AR15? Do I put the even cheaper (when I bought it) off-brand on my AR and put this one on my .50 Beowulf? Do I need to build something entirely new just for the new optic?

....
Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:24 PM (32nmx)


This is a question?

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM (IFNME)

176 Thanks for the cane video! I've had to use one occasionally and I never thought about using it with the hook forward.
My cane is a Ka-bar (yes, the knife company) made out of aluminum. It is unbreakable, made out of heavy duty tubing. If you're over 29, buying a cane such as a lightweight Walmart one, before you need it, is a good idea. Hopping on one leg across the parking lot to get to the cane section is kind of undignified.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM (3UsVM)

177 Pretty bad SB halftime.

Usher is just not suitable to this type of event.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM (XV/Pl)

178 For just $5,000 a month you can take care of the monthly needs of a former fashion model.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:27 PM (2yu8s)

179 Does anyone have a Taurus PT99AF or similar out there?

Many years ago a friend had one. He eventually upgraded to an Beretta 92 but I don't recall him dissing the Taurus.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 08:28 PM (sNc8Y)

180 Put it on the .50 and give us updates. I'd be interested if it holds up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:28 PM (WF0+t)

181 Gun Thread Greetings, Horde!

A "Beg to Buy".

I'm scouring the markets for parts from an Interarms MkX Mauser ('9 receiver. Could also be a Parker-Hale, (same, from Zastava factory).

Bottom metal. (trigger guard, magazine, hinged floorplate, magazine follower & spring). Highly polished, black/blue. The later variants as found on Charles Daly or the Remington 798, NOT wanted. The former has the floorplate release in the lower-front of the trigger guard bow (same as Remington 700). The latter have a "cross-bolt" floorplate release in the upper front bow of the trigger guard, necessitating an ugly "half moon" be laterally hogged out of the stock. UGLY!

And, a full COMMERCIAL Bolt-Release/Ejector assembly for the Mauser '98. No "mil-surp" stuff with associated proof marks.

I'll $pend Money for these goodies, so any tips or leads, appreciated! I think I've worn out the 'net, looking for them, but your search-fu might dwarf mine, so, I'm asking!

Oh, and those B-27 targets up top? They're not walking away from anything, after all that. More holes is GOOD holes!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 11, 2024 08:28 PM (e6UQI)

182 Usher is just not suitable to this type of event.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM


Not bringing down the House?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 08:28 PM (a3Q+t)

183 Looks like they sent in reinforcements to assist Usher.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 08:28 PM (XV/Pl)

184 Usher is just not suitable to this type of event.

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He couldn't care less and is just passing the plate.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:29 PM (WF0+t)

185 Usher is just not suitable to this type of event.

Word.

Posted by: Wardrobe Malfunction at February 11, 2024 08:29 PM (V8he0)

186 Hate to say it, but I think the black national anthem was better.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 11, 2024 08:29 PM (3WheT)

187 This is a question?
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To AR or not to AR.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:29 PM (2yu8s)

188 Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:24 PM (32nmx)

This is a question?
Posted by: blaster


Isn't the answer "YES!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 08:30 PM (hOUT3)

189 If you've seen HQ staff officers downrange with their pistols, you'd understand why the Army wants everything it can get safety wise on a pistol. Doctors and medical staff are almost as bad when it comes to handling their pistols.
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:25 PM (yRXSd)

Just the clearing procedures were enough for me. The Army just glanced at my gun and was like "cool". Air Force? No no no. SF came out to the gun barrel, follow my commands for clearing, I will inspect your gun...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:30 PM (8sMut)

190 Hate to say it, but I think the black national anthem was better.

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Because of the twerking and gang signs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:30 PM (WF0+t)

191
God willing, the RMBS Mom and I will be there!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Looking forward to that as we missed last Oct.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 08:30 PM (TDl5K)

192 @182

>>Not bringing down the House?

His music is low-key R&B. and he was relevant about 20 years ago.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 08:30 PM (XV/Pl)

193 186
' I think the black national anthem was better.'

Take a knee.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 08:30 PM (roH4R)

194 Posted by: Unkaren at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM (lrv8s)

I think you mean Taipei. The CCP already controls Hong Kong.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:31 PM (yRXSd)

195 Taiwan better be ready to fight. After Brandon’s performance and Austin’s hospitalization, I’d be concerned if I lived in Hong Kong!
Posted by: Unkaren

If Hong Kong was in Taiwan I'm sure they'd be quaking in their boots, as HK is in China I suspect they'll be complacent about it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2024 08:31 PM (TDl5K)

196 WHEN JOBS GO SOUTH: This small New York village made guns for 200 years. What happens when Remington leaves? “Remington is consolidating its operations in Georgia, a state the company says is friendlier to the firearms industry.”

Posted at 8:00 pm by Glenn Reynolds

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:32 PM (2yu8s)

197 Shooting-wise, we didn't get to the range but have been getting the BB and pellet guns out more and more. They're lots of fun and cheap to feed, and everyone can practice skills and have a good time regardless of experience or ability level.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:17 PM (WF0+t)

Excellent advice. Some of the pellet/bb guns like the DPMS SBR and Sig Sauer MCX look and feel like the real thing and have the same fire controls so you get range time on the cheap in your back yard and are fun to boot...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 08:32 PM (R/m4+)

198 186 Hate to say it, but I think the black national anthem was better.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 11, 2024 08:29 PM (3WheT)

I'm working on the English/German/Slav National Anthem. This ought to be fun.

You know, since we need a national anthem for ever race and ethnicity now...

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:32 PM (8sMut)

199 (checks vigilantcitizen.com to see if there's recent news articles about Usher being revived in media)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:32 PM (WF0+t)

200 Mostly just a gum thread lurker, but enjoy the post & chat. Shooting distance video was interesting. Cane video volume was too low to hear over kitchen fan. It & Devil Girl from Mars saved for later.

Liked the Armalite ad, but Morons have taught me to notice- as nurse rached did, "little" details like trigger discipline!

Posted by: mindful webworker - bullets & beef? Food/gun thread crossover at February 11, 2024 08:32 PM (ZFdeh)

201 And now a guitar solo from H.E.R

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 08:33 PM (XV/Pl)

202 So looking forward to Corsicana 2024...in the meantime, looking at the news that Remington is moving its operations from Ilion NY to LaGrange NY...been there since 1816...first Smith & Wesson, now Remington...so glad we will be moving in that direction....

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 08:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

203 I am so impressed by this halftime show that I went and did some dishes

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 08:33 PM (S6gqv)

204 I have probably 50 or so pellet guns. I shoot them a lot.
Of all I have I have 2 favorite pistols.
The standard Crossman .22 cal pump pistol and this

http://tinyurl.com/2xsf2x6p

The Beeman P17. .177 cal. N nitro piston just a break-open single pump. I's got probably close to 3 or so thousand pellets through mine over 18 years and it is still just like the day I bought it.
Comfortable, accurate and cheap.

Rifle wise I'm into the old Benjamin and Sherridans. Not so cheap.

Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 08:33 PM (B705c)

205 172 Taiwan better be ready to fight. After Brandon’s performance and Austin’s hospitalization, I’d be concerned if I lived in Hong Kong!

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You mean Taipei?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 11, 2024 08:34 PM (xw1WS)

206 203. 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

Posted by: cccp3o at February 11, 2024 08:34 PM (d+otF)

207 I think I have the wrong channel. There appears to be a male strip show on CBS.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 11, 2024 08:34 PM (PmqP5)

208 202 is from Grateful, using TRex computer, lol....

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 08:34 PM (IQ6Gq)

209 198
'I'm working on the English/German/Slav National Anthem. '

September can be German history month.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 11, 2024 08:34 PM (roH4R)

210 196 WHEN JOBS GO SOUTH: This small New York village made guns for 200 years. What happens when Remington leaves? “Remington is consolidating its operations in Georgia, a state the company says is friendlier to the firearms industry.”

Posted at 8:00 pm by Glenn Reynolds
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:32 PM (2yu8s)


Who would continue manufacturing there? Kimber moved from Yonkers to Troy, AL. Sig is still in NH which is still kind of Live Free or Die.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:34 PM (IFNME)

211 Interesting video on canes.

Insty today had an interesting link: https://cutt.ly/awC8XNa3

Yes, there's a gun in the story. But it sparked a discussion on the Insty page about sword canes. Most of which, unfortunately, violate the first rule about canes.

But that led to a discussion of whether they were legal in any states. Evidently they are in some states, some with a CCL, some without.

Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:35 PM (32nmx)

212 65 Dear Gun Thread Staff,

Have you given weaselisaretardandcannotrecallwhichcommenterrecommendedthis a "doesnotpayattentioninclass" mark on his permanent record yet?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 07:42 PM (a3Q+t)
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D i d s o m e o n e s t e a l y o u r S P A C E B A R ?
You can use some of these spaces. Don't mention it.

Posted by: Ciampino at February 11, 2024 08:35 PM (qfLjt)

213 I missed the Asian National Anthem...damn

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 11, 2024 08:35 PM (xw1WS)

214 And Grateful also did dishes during the halftime show....

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 08:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

215 Went to the range on Saturday and had a grand old time.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at February 11, 2024 08:36 PM (b5mAA)

216 Whats happening at the SB halftime is pretty much a nostalgia act.

Sad.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 08:36 PM (XV/Pl)

217 “Remington is consolidating its operations in Georgia, a state the company says is friendlier to the firearms industry.”

My only question is what took 'em so long? NY has hated the industry and its customers for a good half-century now.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 08:36 PM (sNc8Y)

218 The only half tiime show I remember had dancing sharks.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:37 PM (t/2Uw)

219 Thank jeebus it's over.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 11, 2024 08:37 PM (3WheT)

220 You mean Taipei?
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Formosa??

[It was called that in episode of Get Smart I recall.]

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:37 PM (2yu8s)

221 Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:32 PM (2yu8s)

I think Colt is the last remaining old era gunmaker left in the blue NE states. SIG is in NH.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:37 PM (yRXSd)

222 points for stripper poles, but not enough to salvage the show

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 11, 2024 08:37 PM (3WheT)

223 Oh, and those B-27 targets up top? They're not walking away from anything, after all that. More holes is GOOD holes!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 11, 2024 08:28 PM (e6UQI)

The first 20 shots taken with the P226 Tacops were joyous. (I took a picture of that separately because I was taken aback at it.) If that were one of the bad guys, he would have lived a short and exciting life before entering the eternal dirt nap.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:37 PM (8sMut)

224 218 The only half tiime show I remember had dancing sharks.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:37 PM (t/2Uw)


Up With People was the best.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:38 PM (IFNME)

225 Here is a web site similar to USCCA's about concealed carry, concerning knife rights in the different states.
https://cutt.ly/AwC8VEvm

Problems accruing to sword canes involve length (most states forbid concealed blades longer than 2 to 3 inches) and concealment.

Don't forget the 2A covers a lot more than firearms.

Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:38 PM (32nmx)

226 220 Addendum... for all Taiwan, I mean.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:38 PM (2yu8s)

227 I visualize Yoko Ono doing that Asian National Anthem.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 08:39 PM (S6gqv)

228 I was fun.

Posted by: Baby Sharks at February 11, 2024 08:39 PM (V8he0)

229 If it's a good price go for it, but if it's more than a couple of hundred dollars I'd put that money towards something else unless you shoot it and just absolutely love it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM (WF0+t)
Many years ago a friend had one. He eventually upgraded to an Beretta 92 but I don't recall him dissing the Taurus.
Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 08:28 PM (sNc8Y)

Excellent! Thanks Moron Robbie and Oddbob. He's asking $300 so I think the price is fair. Really clean and 2 15 round mags too. Even has the original box.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 08:39 PM (R/m4+)

230 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:37 PM (t/2Uw)

But did anything jump those dancing sharks?

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:40 PM (yRXSd)

231 Posted by: mindful webworker - bullets & beef? Food/gun thread crossover at February 11, 2024 08:32 PM (ZFdeh)
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Happy to hear you're enjoying it.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2024 08:40 PM (RG6z4)

232
Hate to say it, but I think the black national anthem was better.

Better than what?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2024 08:40 PM (63Dwl)

233 I always made it a point to avoid SB halftime shows.

The last Super Bowl I saw, I think Beyonce was the performer at halftime. I made a point of, as soon as halftime began, to head for a nearby Subway, ordered a sandwich, got everything I needed, went to a close by gas station to get a quart of beer, and then headed home. I got back just in time for that stupid show to end. I was proud of myself for missing the whole thing.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:41 PM (8sMut)

234 Don't forget the 2A covers a lot more than firearms.

Yeah, but somebody's going to have to get arrested and lose at trial to get a challenge going. In any fair court (I know, just roll with it) there's no way a sword ban would pass the Bruen test.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 08:41 PM (sNc8Y)

235 Ok. That Pluto tv ad was hilarious.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 08:41 PM (c2jz5)

236 Better than what?

Us dancing?

Posted by: Baby Sharks at February 11, 2024 08:41 PM (V8he0)

237 Firearms Manufacturing Moves South

http://tinyurl.com/5yyfjjdu

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:42 PM (IFNME)

238 They are running local ads here now.

CBS lost their shirts. They did NOT sell a lot of ad space.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 08:43 PM (c2jz5)

239 I liked the Kennedy ad. Very Retro, had a Mad Men vibe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 08:43 PM (S6gqv)

240 The government in Taipei should look at liberalizing gun laws. At least make the country like Switzerland.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 08:43 PM (8sMut)

241 Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 11, 2024 08:26 PM (3UsVM)
I was a little disappointed by the cane video - I was expecting more in the vein of using it for self-defense. It puts me in mind of the incident (probably 20 years ago now) where a young thug tried to rob an elderly gentleman in a parking lot. Turns out the old fellow was an Alamo Scout in WWII and whipped the thug's ass thoroughly with his walking stick.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at February 11, 2024 08:43 PM (PWe8a)

242 I hope that the "if your tits smell like garbage after you haven't showered for three days, use this special $17 rub-on deodorant made especially for disgusting nasty=@ss women like you"
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fort Sumter bad Texas good, Southern states bad Ukraine good

Finally heard the ad on the radio...
"Does it work down there?"...
"Three days"... WTF?!?!
"Also available in roll-on and this enormous girthy stick"

I may have added a word or two to the last quote.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 11, 2024 08:45 PM (cOq4q)

243 I don't even remember who the artist was who was singing I was just so astounished by the dancing sharks. Who the hell thinks up stuff like that and thinks it's entertaining?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:46 PM (t/2Uw)

244 Firearms Manufacturing Moves South

http://tinyurl.com/5yyfjjdu

Posted by: blaster


Looked like our favorite mfr PSA was NOT on that list?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 08:46 PM (hOUT3)

245 If they called it the "Souper Bowl" could you then garnish your chili with carrots?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 11, 2024 08:46 PM (cOq4q)

246 I missed the Asian National Anthem...damn
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 11, 2024 08:35 PM (xw1WS)

I sa mok em boo di ay
I sa mok em boo
I went to China Town
Way back in old Hong Kong
Took out some egg fu yon
And then I heard a gong
Ling, Ting, Tong, tried to sing that song called
I sa mok em boo di ay, I sa mok em boo...

Posted by: The Five Keys at February 11, 2024 08:46 PM (R/m4+)

247 In a hurry in the morning? Try avoiding this common mistake on your way to work.

https://shorturl.at/xHX69

Posted by: Ciampino at February 11, 2024 08:49 PM (qfLjt)

248 Excuse one OT here. Local news channel is showing the video of Biden falling at AF graduation ceremony, allegedly tripping over a "badly placed" black sandbag and the AF1 stairs tumble with the headline, "Biden facing more questions regarding his age".

Ha, ha.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:49 PM (2yu8s)

249 Looked like our favorite mfr PSA was NOT on that list?

Didn't they start out in South Carolina?

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 08:49 PM (sNc8Y)

250 This is a question?
Posted by: blaster

Isn't the answer "YES!"
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 08:30 PM (hOUT3)

I knew I could count on y'all.

Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:49 PM (32nmx)

251 Run the J Lo head down/eye roll over and over.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at February 11, 2024 08:50 PM (as3uC)

252 What do you guys think about the Mossberg 930?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 08:51 PM (0FoWg)

253 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:46 PM (t/2Uw)

That's why the place is called Holly-weird.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:52 PM (yRXSd)

254 First I read that Austin did not transfer power when he went to the hospital and took his top secret stuff to the hospital so he could do his job from there. Now, 39 minutes later, story is he has transferred power to his Deputy. Who is running the government?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:52 PM (t/2Uw)

255 This is a question?
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Isn't the answer "YES!"
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I knew I could count on y'all.


* finishes building AR *

"Huh, guess I didn't need that extra roll pin after all. Oh well, no sense in letting it go to waste."

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 08:52 PM (sNc8Y)

256 What do you guys think about the Mossberg 930?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 08:51 PM


Clean it frequently. The 940 addresses some other issues the 930 had.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 08:53 PM (a3Q+t)

257 "little" details like trigger discipline!
Posted by: mindful webworker - bullets & beef? Food/gun thread crossover at February 11, 2024 08:32 PM (ZFdeh)

That really didn't used to be as much of a thing. I seem to recall a stage where it was "don't put your finger on the trigger", which seemed to (at least sometimes) mean it was okay to be within the trigger guard, as long as you had it forward.

Speaking of which, Lana Del Ray evidently did an Instagram post holding a pistol. Most people freaked out about there being a pistol in her hand. Gunners actually noticed she might have had her finger in the trigger guard/on the trigger. Men said "What gun?" - at least at first.

Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 08:53 PM (32nmx)

258 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 08:51 PM (0FoWg)

What do you want to do with it? Home defense? SHTF? Hunting? Trap shooting? Answering this question drives a lot of whether this is a "good" or "bad" choice for you.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:54 PM (yRXSd)

259 Yea! Barely made it! Guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 11, 2024 08:54 PM (xcxpd)

260 Who is running the government?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)


Might be the UN, but I don't think it's the WHO.

At least until the next plandemic.

Posted by: mikeski at February 11, 2024 08:54 PM (DgGvY)

261 Excellent! Thanks Moron Robbie and Oddbob. He's asking $300 so I think the price is fair. Really clean and 2 15 round mags too. Even has the original box.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

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$300 sounds like a fair price now that I remember it's 2024.

You're also talking to someone who has regretted not buying a number of things AND who has gotten beaten for worse than $300 before, so if you've got any interest in it yeah, it's probably worth a shot. Don't be surprised if it needs a bit of tuning at some point, but if you like it go for it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at February 11, 2024 08:54 PM (ldcYY)

262 249 Looked like our favorite mfr PSA was NOT on that list?

Didn't they start out in South Carolina?
Posted by: Oddbob


I believe you are right, I was thinking of manufacturers, not relocated manufacturers...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 08:55 PM (hOUT3)

263 You buy her that AR, next thing she'll be wanting the chainsaw bayonet attachment.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 08:55 PM (a3Q+t)

264 Home defense. I have other guns for carry or SHTF or whatever.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 08:55 PM (0FoWg)

265 260 Who is running the government?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Might be the UN, but I don't think it's the WHO.

At least until the next plandemic.
Posted by: mikeski


Can you say WEF?
Yes, yes, I think you can!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 08:56 PM (hOUT3)

266 254 Who is running the government?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:52 PM
***

We do. We do.

Posted by: Stonecutters at February 11, 2024 08:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

267 "Who is running the government?"

White House Chief of Staff gives the orders he is ordered to give.

Posted by: davidt at February 11, 2024 08:58 PM (SYTee)

268 Looked like our favorite mfr PSA was NOT on that list?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 08:46 PM (hOUT3)


Based in West Columbia, South Carolina. No need to move.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 08:58 PM (IFNME)

269 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:52 PM (t/2Uw)

The normal day to day stuff isn't that big of a deal. The deputies can cover that, no problem. It's the major policy decisions, providing guidance to planners, and where to spend the big bucks that make SECDEF's second trip to the hospital a big story. His deputies CAN'T decide those until he comes back.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:58 PM (yRXSd)

270 So quick range report, feel free to skip.

The S&B 230gr JHP continues to be problematic. I suspect there are some excessively hard primers here. Only two of my .45 pistols will consistently fire the damn things, my Ruger SR1911 and my Glock 21. In fact, my CZ 97 had the damn loaded chamber indicator fly off. This is the second CZ 97 that has had this particular failure. So I can't endorse this ammo.

On the good side, the Augila 40gr copper plated solids are very reliable. I can endorse this round.

And other good news, my PSA Dagger is still performing well, very well even. I did have to have the front sight replaced, might be my draw stroke is dragging the front sight. It's metal and I'm not amused by the failure but...the gun itself has been reliable mechanically: it just keeps shooting.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 11, 2024 08:58 PM (xcxpd)

271 Better than what?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot

the halftime show

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 11, 2024 08:59 PM (CxElZ)

272 I want to buy a USD $220 short Churchill pump-action tactical shotgun; and if I like it and can handle pumping it, see about a getting a bullpup-type PA tactical shotgun as there's a S&W one and a Kel-Tec one in a somewhat-local shop here that both look kewl.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 08:59 PM (2yu8s)

273 I also clean guns after every shooting, or a year of sitting. So cleaning them isn't a huge deal for me, as long as it's reliable when it's clean.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 09:00 PM (0FoWg)

274 Pfuck Pfizer!!!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, Bird Law Expert at February 11, 2024 09:00 PM (snyZJ)

275 If you can hit a man shape target in your house with that Taurus it’ll do. But for carry/self defense get the Beretta.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2024 09:01 PM (NxC5+)

276 Who is running the government?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 08:52 PM


Objects in motion tend to remain in motion.

Posted by: zombie Isaac Newton (not related to Fig) at February 11, 2024 09:02 PM (a3Q+t)

277 Toying around with doing one of these on last of my AR lowers I have yet to build.
Anybody have any experience with them?
I love .22wmr.
http://tinyurl.com/mr2j57y8

Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 09:03 PM (B705c)

278 Wife welcomed a new member of the family, a Rossi 20ga DB coach gun.

I am pondering getting her a Ruger PC Carbine for Valentine's day.

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:03 PM (X0I7i)

279 I had an awful 9mm Beretta. Only gun I ever threw away. I know some people swear by them... but mine was a POS. Never worked right.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 09:04 PM (0FoWg)

280 277 Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 09:03 PM (B705c)

Not in 22WMR but I have a pair of 18" 223 Wylde builds from them both side chargers that work flawlessly and are tack drivers to 300 yards.

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:04 PM (X0I7i)

281 Bud Light can go fuck themselves.
LOL

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 11, 2024 09:04 PM (ufFY8)

282 The normal day to day stuff isn't that big of a deal. The deputies can cover that, no problem. It's the major policy decisions, providing guidance to planners, and where to spend the big bucks that make SECDEF's second trip to the hospital a big story. His deputies CAN'T decide those until he comes back.
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:58 PM (yRXSd)


Easy. Everything to Ukraine.

Done.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 09:05 PM (IFNME)

283 279 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 09:04 PM (0FoWg)

They require a level of maintaining, remember they are itialianized P-38s.

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:05 PM (X0I7i)

284 281 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 11, 2024 09:04 PM (ufFY

You cracked the code.

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:05 PM (X0I7i)

285 Doctors and medical staff are almost as bad when it comes to handling their pistols.
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 08:25 PM


Flashback to a flight down to the JRTC mumblemumble years ago. Medical staff is getting off the aircraft. Medical officer (large southern black woman): "Anybody seen my weapon?"

We used up the brigade's annual supply of facepalm in one short moment.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 09:05 PM (Wnv9h)

286 The 940 addresses some other issues the 930 had.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 08:53 PM (a3Q+t)

Will look at the 940, thx.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 09:06 PM (0FoWg)

287 163 Does anyone have a Taurus PT99AF or similar out there?

A local fella has one for sale at a good price and I think I will have to liberate it from his possession.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 08:22 PM (R/m4+)

I have a PT 92. If the P99 has a solid rear sight, milled into the frame, then buy that bad boy. It will run forever. If it has a dovetailed rear sight, it may fall out of alignment. With older Taurus, it's going to be a gamble.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 11, 2024 09:07 PM (xcxpd)

288 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 08:55 PM (0FoWg)

Personally, I prefer the Benelli M4 Law Enforcement and Military Model (w/ the collapsing stock) for its proven combat record (USMC resistant), gas operation (less felt recoil), and reliability. But the Mossberg 930 is probably "good enough" and less than half of the price of a Benelli M4 LE/Military Model new. I do think that the fixed stock might be a problem if your arms are short for the length of pull on that shotgun. That's a big plus for the Benelli's collapsing stock.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 09:07 PM (yRXSd)

289 Btw, where's the Budweiser Clydesdales we were promised?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 09:07 PM (B96Jb)

290 Who is running the government?

We are.

Posted by: Dancing Sharks at February 11, 2024 09:08 PM (V8he0)

291 289 Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 09:07 PM (B96Jb)

They have men larping as nags instead....

The king of beers became the queen of q**rs.

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:08 PM (X0I7i)

292 They require a level of maintaining, remember they are itialianized P-38s.
Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:05 PM (X0I7i)

I'm pretty good about maintenance. Not a problem. The shit just constantly jammed. I bought it used. It might have been damaged. It appeared good, though. Very frustrating purchase. I eventually just trashed it. Couldn't sell it in good conscience.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 09:09 PM (0FoWg)

293 Btw, where's the Budweiser Clydesdales we were promised?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 09:07 PM


What? Why are you all looking over here? I was picking up something under the horse!

Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at February 11, 2024 09:09 PM (Wnv9h)

294 I think I can turn in my report on this year's Super Bowl: in a word...
BOR-ing!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2024 09:09 PM (S6gqv)

295 Not in 22WMR but I have a pair of 18" 223 Wylde builds from them both side chargers that work flawlessly and are tack drivers to 300 yards.

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:04 PM (X0I7i)

Hadn't looked into those... Think I will.
Thank you.

Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 09:09 PM (B705c)

296 292 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 09:09 PM (0FoWg)

They need spring love periodically, and depending on what ammo you are running they may need a different spring setup.

I am not "price of the pistoleers" or anything but even my rickety M9 in the army did "well enough."

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:11 PM (X0I7i)

297 Toying around with doing one of these on last of my AR lowers I have yet to build.

No experience but it looks like a heck of a lot of fun.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 09:11 PM (sNc8Y)

298 Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 09:07 PM (yRXSd)

Thanks. Price is an issue; they're not just selling it to me, but my wife, who'd rather buy scented candles or something. I like the M4, too, and I always loved the Nova I used to have. Something to think about. It's my money, after all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2024 09:12 PM (0FoWg)

299 295 Posted by: Reforger at February 11, 2024 09:09 PM (B705c)

.223 Wylde's gimmick is it can shoot most 223/556 loads....

I personally prefer M193 if I shoot .223 I go for 55gr hollow points.

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:12 PM (X0I7i)

300 Security at Joel Olsteen’s church allowed a visitor to meet God in person .

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 09:12 PM (MNhXM)

301 I hope that streaker got paid well at least.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 11, 2024 09:13 PM (XV/Pl)

302 Made it to 300!

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 09:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

303 On the good side, the Augila 40gr copper plated solids are very reliable. I can endorse this round.
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Cool.

Just .22LR rounds, but I bought three 500rd boxes of lead-tipped Blazer and a 500-box of copper-tipped Aguila 38gr figuring I'd shoot four magazines of the lead-tipped and then two magazines of copper-tipped after to clean out the barrel, so to speak, with my .22LR rifle so good to hear that it's a make up to standards.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 09:14 PM (2yu8s)

304 I really like my 92fs. I only bought it as a companion to my CX Storm but I ended up liking it more than I thought.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 09:15 PM (MNhXM)

305 Travis, I think we ought to date around for a while.

Posted by: Tay Tay at February 11, 2024 09:16 PM (V8he0)

306 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 09:05 PM (Wnv9h)

Fort McCoy, December 1990. Classroom for a training session on how to field strip and reassemble the 1911 pistol. Had to duck more than once because of the recoil springs and plugs flying around from the medical officers assigned to the reserve MASH unit that were in that class. The only medical officer who didn't have problems taking his pistol apart and putting it back together again was an O-6 doctor who had fought in Western Europe as a machine gunner in WWII.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 09:16 PM (yRXSd)

307 A civilian Beretta 92 tends to be better and less beat up than milspec, from what I've seen and heard. It's a solid design, but if it gets beat up and handed around it will need reconditioning.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 11, 2024 09:16 PM (xcxpd)

308 305 Posted by: Tay Tay at February 11, 2024 09:16 PM (V8he0)

I got dibs on the linemen!

//Trav Trav

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:17 PM (X0I7i)

309 I must be missing something, but the homes.com commercials are the worst. Make no sense for $$$$

Posted by: Grateful at February 11, 2024 09:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

310 I have a PT 92. If the P99 has a solid rear sight, milled into the frame, then buy that bad boy. It will run forever. If it has a dovetailed rear sight, it may fall out of alignment. With older Taurus, it's going to be a gamble.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 11, 2024 09:07 PM (xcxpd)

Yup, it has the adjustable rear sight. If I get it I will zero it and lock that mother down.

Thanks Mark Andrew Edwards!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2024 09:17 PM (R/m4+)

311 I am pondering getting her a Ruger PC Carbine for Valentine's day.
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If she says she doesn't like it, tell her it's for Ash Wednesday and Lent instead.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 09:17 PM (2yu8s)

312 Fort McCoy, December 1990. Classroom for a training session on how to field strip and reassemble the 1911 pistol. Had to duck more than once because of the recoil springs and plugs flying around from the medical officers assigned to the reserve MASH unit that were in that class. The only medical officer who didn't have problems taking his pistol apart and putting it back together again was an O-6 doctor who had fought in Western Europe as a machine gunner in WWII.
Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 09:16 PM


*fistbump*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 09:18 PM (Wnv9h)

313 >>> Shooting-wise, we didn't get to the range but have been getting the BB and pellet guns out more and more. They're lots of fun and cheap to feed, and everyone can practice skills and have a good time regardless of experience or ability level.

Since backyard neighbors cleared out undergrowth I should make a habit of practise with the air rifle again... put a little oil in there and isabout as loud as a 22. Get them used to sumdude with rifle out back.

Hopefully they will put up a fence soon which is why I presume they took out the undergrowth.. or I better be getting some bamboo.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 11, 2024 09:18 PM (cOq4q)

314 OK, 9:20 thank you time!

Thank you!

Hope to see everybody here next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2024 09:19 PM (RG6z4)

315 This game is boring af.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 09:20 PM (TRpL6)

316 Thank God I have you morons to entertain me!

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 09:20 PM (TRpL6)

317 311 Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 09:17 PM (2yu8s)

We bought a CA compliant one a few years back, multiple trips to the gunsmith and accessories later we made a 650 dollar gun a 1300 one.

You can customize the unholy hell out of them, she has decided in her infinite wisdom she wants an original traditional stock one with tru glo sights, a new trigger, a new charging handle, and a mag release upgrade.....

If we are going with "matching pistol and carbine" I may get her a Glock 17 or 34 to go with it and put the Meprolight Bullseye FT rear sight on the glock....

or we will just get another security 9.

Posted by: sven at February 11, 2024 09:20 PM (X0I7i)

318 >>> 55 44 Target practice is great but can you shoot your dinner? I honestly don't mean this sarcastically.
Posted by: Ben Had

I think I probably could, with some tutoring. But I am squeamish about killing mammals. Things from the sea, no problem. But birds and mammals? I don't know.

I have guns for protection. And I don't think I would have any problem pulling the trigger on someone directly threatening me or my boys or my daughter in law.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 07:36 PM (W8VzH)

Liar!!!

Posted by: woodpeckers at February 11, 2024 09:20 PM (llON8)

319 GAAK!

I posted the thank you a minute early!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2024 09:21 PM (RG6z4)

320 Thanks for hosting this thread, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 09:22 PM (yRXSd)

321 Puppy Bowl spoiler alert...
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Team Ruff comes back from behind to beat Team Fluff.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 09:22 PM (2yu8s)

322 or I better be getting some bamboo.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher


My advice, FWIW, think very very carefully about planting bamboo.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 09:22 PM (hOUT3)

323 The buddhist moment of wisdom and peace with the world comes when you can shoot not only your dinner but feral cats that are walking on your cars and killing your chickens but mainly walking on your black sports car that you just had painted.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at February 11, 2024 09:23 PM (ldcYY)

324 I posted the thank you a minute early!

Unforgivable, dude.

Posted by: That guy who always complains... at February 11, 2024 09:24 PM (V8he0)

325 Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 09:20 PM (TRpL6)

Most of them are, unless you're rooting for your team and they're stomping on the other team.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 09:24 PM (yRXSd)

326 319 GAAK!

I posted the thank you a minute early!
Posted by: Weasel


So you had an Inadvertent Post from having your finger on the enter key?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 09:24 PM (hOUT3)

327 Now we finally have a game....

Posted by: Grateful at February 11, 2024 09:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

328 Food thread only went 333 to NOOD - and no Superbowl competition.

Gun thread pushing the food thread down like a thing that pushes down other things.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 09:24 PM (IFNME)

329 OK, 9:20 thank you time!

Dang, this means I have to go to work in the morning, doesn't it? Thanks for hosting, Weasel.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 09:25 PM (sNc8Y)

330
Who is running the government?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Might be the UN, but I don't think it's the WHO.


Meet the new boss...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2024 09:25 PM (63Dwl)

331 There is a roar of recognition from the tay tay conspiracy theorists.

Posted by: From about that Time at February 11, 2024 09:25 PM (4780s)

332 Thanks as always Weasel.

Did I hear right that the referees finally got on the ball and are getting the game moving in the correct direction?

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at February 11, 2024 09:25 PM (ldcYY)

333 I have no team in this game, just rooting for an actual game....

Posted by: Grateful at February 11, 2024 09:25 PM (IQ6Gq)

334 316 Thank God I have you morons to entertain me!
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I have weird dreams too, NR. I had one recently where a robot made English muffins [for me?] for breakfast and it had a slab of peanut butter the size of a hamburger patty on it!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 09:26 PM (2yu8s)

335 There it is.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 09:26 PM (IFNME)

336 Thanks Weasel. Glad I finally made it to one of this. This is my favorite thread of the week.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 11, 2024 09:27 PM (xcxpd)

337 Liar!!!
Posted by: woodpeckers


Stop banging on my roof, then. Assholes.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 09:27 PM (aVl3I)

338 Is the game stilll on?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 11, 2024 09:27 PM (t/2Uw)

339 My advice, FWIW, think very very carefully about planting bamboo.
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Yeah, no one needs those lazy low-testosterone pandas in the neighbourhood.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 09:27 PM (2yu8s)

340 Saw a vid at Insty of Mr. Swift, er I mean Kelce, yelling at and physically bumping his head coach. Who does he think he is, LeBron James?

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2024 09:27 PM (sNc8Y)

341 Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at February 11, 2024 09:23 PM (ldcYY)

Then you need to get the new Hush Puppy Glock from B&T! Check out the short 90 second video from Forgotten Weapons about it from the 2024 SHOT Show. You can deal with those feral cats and not disturb your peaceful surrounds at the same time. It's called a "Hush Puppy," but I'm sure it'll work on cats too.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 09:28 PM (yRXSd)

342 Thx Weasel and commenters for the weekly thread.

Posted by: whig at February 11, 2024 09:29 PM (um5QM)

343 Food Thread Current Comment Count: 334.0

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 09:30 PM (a3Q+t)

344 Any military people here who went through the hangars at Tustin? We stopped by to pay our respects to the remnants of the north hangar recently after the big fire. Sad to see - only the four concrete pillars that supported the giant doors remain.

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 09:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

345 understand that the US Army demanded this feature for the M17 pistol competition. Since SIG was the only bidder that delivered exactly what the Army wanted, that's why SIG won.
Posted by: Ed L

Army also required that the new pistol be "modular." I believe this was to get around Congress meddling every time a new weapon is needed. Now, if a need arises for a 20 shot, 4" barrel, in .357 SIG model, the Army has that covered with just a couple of buckets of spare parts.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 11, 2024 09:30 PM (3UsVM)

346 315 This game is boring af.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 09:20 PM (TRpL6)
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I was fast-forwarding through my recording of the game and it was boring. Glad it's not just me.

Commercials sucked too.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 11, 2024 09:30 PM (+RQPJ)

347 +1 to no on the bamboo. That stuff is kudzu's lazier and less famous cousin.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at February 11, 2024 09:30 PM (ldcYY)

348 Come back, Trav! I didn't really mean it!

Posted by: Tay Tay at February 11, 2024 09:31 PM (V8he0)

349 That stuff is kudzu's lazier and less famous cousin.
Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at February 11, 2024 09:30 PM (ldcYY)


And it is a byotch to clear;
and like the proverbial cat, it comes back the very next day!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 09:33 PM (hOUT3)

350 This is going to be gay like a replay of SB54.

*yawn* *burb* *fart*

Whatevs....

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 11, 2024 09:34 PM (EEgXH)

351 Hush Puppy Glock from B&T

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Oooh, that looks very interesting. I'm not up on my suppressors and hadn't known about the polymer wipes (I'll have to look that up), but immobilizing the slide is pretty great, too.

(Fortunately where I live I don't have to worry much about noise)

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at February 11, 2024 09:35 PM (ldcYY)

352 and like the proverbial cat, it comes back the very next day!


--

Other people will have better info on this, but it's my understanding that was part of how the Viet Cong killed or tortured people. Cut, tie someone down, wait a day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at February 11, 2024 09:36 PM (ldcYY)

353 Oddly enough, given the above comment, I was also looking at the Mossberg 590M Mag-Fed 12GA PA shotgun too rather than a bullpup one, wondering about the 10rd magazine being conducive to quick reloading and being similar to mag-fed rifles.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 09:37 PM (2yu8s)

354 ‘Pandas! I serr you pandas to gobber up bamboo.’
- big panda

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2024 09:37 PM (NxC5+)

355 Bamboo groves by my house growing up was a kid’s dream. So many things you could make with bamboo.

Kites, blow guns, snorkel, bow, etc.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 11, 2024 09:41 PM (MNhXM)

356 Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 11, 2024 09:30 PM (3UsVM)

Comes from the experience w/ the Beretta M9. The M9 was supposed to replace the wide variety of .38 revolvers in use by the likes of the USAF, USN, aviators of all stripes, and investigators (CID, NCIS, OSI, etc.). But the M9 didn't do CCW very well. CID and NCIS then got the M11 through as a concealable alternative to the M9. Then the SEALS started playing w/ hot ammo and found the M9 wanting. They ended up w/ the Mark 25. SOCOM stuck w/ .45 ACP and got their own pistols, the Mark 23 and Mark 24. The USMC didn't want the M9, so they kept the M1911 in the form of the M45 and M45A1 for Force Recon and the USMC Raiders. As a universal pistol, the M9 utterly failed. The Army hopes that the M17 will do what the M9 couldn't.

Posted by: Ed L at February 11, 2024 09:41 PM (yRXSd)

357 These football announcers fellate the last person/ team that makes a good play. Continuously.


I would have kicked a field goal.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 11, 2024 09:41 PM (ufFY8)

358 Thanks for another great gub thread, Weasel!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2024 09:42 PM (Wnv9h)

359 328 Food thread only went 333 to NOOD - and no Superbowl competition.

Gun thread pushing the food thread down like a thing that pushes down other things.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2024 09:24 PM (IFNME)
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Well, it's got the thing that goes up.

Posted by: Ciampino at February 11, 2024 09:42 PM (qfLjt)

360 Evenin'
(sips beer, looks around)
pew pew
(Wanders out of thread.)

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at February 11, 2024 09:43 PM (sAmhv)

361 or I better be getting some bamboo.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

My advice, FWIW, think very very carefully about planting bamboo.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again!or I better be getting some bamboo.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Already have some clumps.
I could divide some or do the easy thing and just buy some more.

But, yeah, they can get out of control.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 11, 2024 09:44 PM (cOq4q)

362 But, yeah, they can will get out of control.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 09:46 PM (hOUT3)

363 But, yeah, they can get out of control.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 11, 2024 09:44 PM (cOq4q)


This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: ADM Josh Painter at February 11, 2024 09:47 PM (IFNME)

364 Thanks Weasel and thanks horde. I learned stuff. Have a great week y'all!

Posted by: TRex at February 11, 2024 09:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

365 Weasel, thank you for the gun thread, always fun to read and a learning experience to boot!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 09:47 PM (hOUT3)

366 “There was not a lot of penetration and he hit a low ball.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 11, 2024 09:47 PM (PmqP5)

367 The end of the weekend is always so bittersweet knowing we won't be discussing guns or movies until another week passes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at February 11, 2024 09:49 PM (hECfr)

368 This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to mow through it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - bullets & beef? Food/gun thread crossover at February 11, 2024 09:50 PM (ZFdeh)

369 Still reading along

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2024 09:52 PM (fwDg9)

370 The best Super Bowls: XXXII, XXXIII, 50

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 09:53 PM (8sMut)

371 A Bobcat with shredder twice a week and a good weed killer every other week during the growing season. My prescription for bamboo.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2024 09:53 PM (NxC5+)

372 Got wifey the Ruger Security 380 for Christmas.
Only been out with it once and she did OK. Need to get her out again until she gets comfortable. It's their EZ Rack so she did good with that part.

Anyone with weak grips should really consider that Ruger or the S&W.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 11, 2024 09:53 PM (cOq4q)

373 371 A Bobcat with shredder twice a week and a good weed killer every other week during the growing season. My prescription for bamboo.
Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2024 09:53 PM (NxC5+)


I think you have the solution, I mixed a double strength weed killer compound, poured it into the cut stalks, and that alone still did not do the job!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 09:56 PM (hOUT3)

374 373 371 A Bobcat with shredder twice a week and a good weed killer every other week during the growing season. My prescription for bamboo.
Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2024 09:53 PM (NxC5+)

I think you have the solution, I mixed a double strength weed killer compound, poured it into the cut stalks, and that alone still did not do the job!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year

Flammenwaffer ?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2024 09:58 PM (ZtIkv)

375 Flammenwaffer ?
Posted by: nurse ratched


I do believe that has promise!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 09:59 PM (hOUT3)

376 Anyone with weak grips should really consider that Ruger or the S&W.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 11, 2024 09:53 PM


A number of Walthers are easy to rack, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2024 10:00 PM (a3Q+t)

377 Fresh ONT now nood

https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=408284

Posted by: mindful webworker - bullets & beef? Food/gun thread crossover at February 11, 2024 10:02 PM (ZFdeh)

378 ONT nood

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 11, 2024 10:02 PM (2yu8s)

379 Don’t burn bamboo with any moisture content, it explodes each segment sounds like small arms .

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2024 10:03 PM (NxC5+)

380 ont up

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 10:05 PM (hOUT3)

381 Anyone with weak grips should really consider that Ruger or the S&W.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 11, 2024 09:53 PM

A number of Walthers

Mrs. Sock was struggling to rack her G19 because of a wrist injury last winter. I put a Recover Tactical slide assist on her gun. Problem solved.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * need a new hobby at February 11, 2024 10:07 PM (ZYX33)

382 379 Don’t burn bamboo with any moisture content, it explodes each segment sounds like small arms .
Posted by: Eromero


Dried bamboo makes a heck of a good kindling!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 10:08 PM (hOUT3)

383 356: First it was the M17 but from everything I have seen that is now the reserve of Army flag officers. The M18, based on the M17 of course (with a shorter barrel), first started use with the USMC. As I understand it, this was because the shorter barrel led to effective conceal carry applications. Then all the other branches jumped on it. I first saw this when I noticed the SF personnel at the AFB gates carrying it. So it looks like the M17 - or really the M18, based on the M17 platform - will succeed where the M9 failed.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 11, 2024 10:10 PM (8sMut)

384 Looked like our favorite mfr PSA was NOT on that list?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at February 11, 2024 08:46 PM (hOUT3)

It doesn't have much further south it can go. Georgia, then Florida, then...?

Posted by: GWB at February 11, 2024 10:19 PM (32nmx)

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Posted by: mcguire at February 11, 2024 10:38 PM (c81IC)

386 101 The NFL, and all pro sports really, is dead to me and has been for years. They can take their constant woke smug lectures and PR stunts and stick them up their collective butts. The Super Bowl is just another example with more hype.

HOWEVER, I know there are fans among the Horde, like Jewells for the Chiefs. For their sake, I hope they enjoy their game.
Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2024 07:57 PM (zudum)

Nice!

Posted by: m at February 12, 2024 02:31 PM (qiHAu)

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