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It may be confusing to watch the press for the next few months

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Yesterday's sunrise in Central California

White House Press Corps, February 8

After the Hur special counsel report was released, the White House Press Corps acted in an unusual manner:

Walter Kirn:

The WH press corps got the signal tonight that it was safe to go into attack mode & make up for lost time. It duly obeyed. Reporters who once competed to throw softballs suddenly competed to hurl stones. What a weird little mob of robots. It was actually chilling to witness.

Here is the C-SPAN video

And the transcript.

I thank you, and I'll take some questions.

Q President Biden, something the special counsel said in his report is that one of the reasons you were not charged is because, in his description, you are a "well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory."

THE PRESIDENT: I am well-meaning, and I'm an elderly man, and I know what the hell I'm doing. I've been President. I put this country back on its feet. I don't need his recommendation. That's totally un- --

Q How bad is your memory? And can you continue as President?

THE PRESIDENT: My memory is so bad, I let you speak. That's the --

Q Do you --

THE PRESIDENT: That's what --

Q Do you feel your memory has gotten worse, Mr. President?

THE PRESIDENT: Now, look, my memory has not gotten -- my memory is fine. My memory -- take a look at what I've done since I've become President. None of you thought I could pass any of the things I got passed. How did that happen?

You know, I guess I just forgot what was going on.

Q Mr. President -- Mr. President --

Q Should voters have concerns about your age? How are you going to assuage them? And do you fear that this report is only going to fuel further their concerns about your age (inaudible)?

THE PRESIDENT: Only by some of you. . .

Ace wrote about some of the boo-boos Biden made in his presser. He also covered a damage control presser featuring Biden spokesman Ian Sams.

So, that weird little mob of robots was not just asking Biden about ice cream this time. Caused quite a stir.


The Press and Biden's Dementia, After February 8

The February 8 presser was isolated in time and space. I think it is worthwhile to remember its specifics, because it was unusual. It can be compared with later statements by the same folks and people who work with them. Like the people suggesting that Biden's dementia is a good thing.

After the February 8 presser, the White House also reacted:

White House deputy press secretary Andrew Bates complained about the press' recent coverage of President Biden's mental acuity after Special Counsel Robert Hur called out his memory for being "poor."

Bates took to X on Thursday to rip journalists for seeming more skeptical of Biden's old age and cognitive abilities lately in the wake of the Hur report.

Hur declined to charge Biden for his mishandling of classified documents, in part because his "poor memory" would discourage a jury from convicting him. The document sent shockwaves through D.C. and the media, with prominent outlets covering Biden's cognitive abilities in a more skeptical light than ever before.

On the other hand, Biden's defenders in the Democratic Party and in his own administration insist that Biden is fine and any evidence to the contrary is "right-wing propaganda."

Bates trashed the press, saying its own "collective memory problems" prevented them from remembering Biden's strong qualities and past "rightwing age attacks."

The press could not remember Biden's strong qualities and past "rightwing age attacks". Heh.

I did not know this about the White House deputy press secretary, either:

Last year, Bates was found to be implicated in spreading the now-discredited letter signed by 50 former intel agency officials saying that Hunter Biden's laptop and its controversial contents were a hoax whipped up by Russian disinformation agents.

This piece also notes the Puck News survey of news people about their prior concerns about Biden's mental state, which Ace covered on the 15th: "Notice they're now setting up the Modified Limited Hangout Fallback Position that while Biden is showing mental decline, he only started really showing it in the past few months."

Anyway,

When discussing the statements of politicians, political operatives or the press, I think it is important to ask

When and where did they say it? In what context?

And, thinking ahead, per James Lindsay

Who is the intended target audience for this statement?

People outside the target audience may roll their eyes at a statement that is fully accepted by the target audience.

There may be more than one target audience. The center left is a typical target audience for the White House and the MSM, but they may also be targeting some "red meat" folks on the right whom they wish to provoke into stereotypically bad behavior, to scare their base.

If there is more than one intended audience, is the speaker trying to get some people on the right to do something stupid in order to look "based"?

It may be worthwhile to point out the intended target audience or audiences to your friends. Who might care in the coming months about what the press thought about Biden's mental acuity in February, for example? Who might profit by pointing out that "the right" is attacking a feeble old man, even after the Democrats choose someone else as their leader?

Can humor help?

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Miscellaneous things to think about

Story time:

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El Salvador has a per capita GDP of $4,500 and a homicide rate of 2.4 per 100,000. The United States has a per capita GDP of $70,000 and a homicide rate of 5.5 per 100,000.

Locking up violent criminals works. Discipline, not wealth, is the key.

The future of El Salvador remains uncertain. Bukele might not last, or he might desire power beyond democracy. But the short-term implication is clear: societies with the determination to reduce crime can do so. Lock up criminals, don't solipsize over "root causes."

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Thinking about the digital dollar here:

And the minimum wage in California should be how much?

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And all went as planned in Afghanistan.

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Russia is under authoritarianism. There is no doubt about it.

The same media that exposes the political corruption in Russia mostly ignores the CCP.

Navalny was the leader of an opposition party
He was an open critic of Putin
He organized anti govt demonstrations
He ran for office
He founded the Anti-Corruption Foundation
He had supporters ...

Any of those is ABSOLUTELY an impossibility in CCP's China. Do American people know Xi's political enemies? Where are they, dead or alive? No, Americans know very little, all because of the media.

While the left is using Navalny's death to attack the conservatives for opposing the Ukraine War, the Dems are defending CCP's most powerful weapon against America, TikTok. . .


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Story time 2:


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Music and Dance

Pancho Lara

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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February 10, Don't let "Woman" disappear

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.


Posted by: K.T. at 11:05 AM




Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 What does that nasty old dementia patient mean by putting the country back on its feet?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 11:09 AM (xcrUy)

2 Yup.

"Sudden Onset," dementia.

The press can't cover up Biden's dementia anymore, so they have to cover their ass.

Posted by: davidt at February 17, 2024 11:12 AM (SYTee)

3 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2024 11:13 AM (fwDg9)

4 There's a script. The media's following it. The thing is, they only get one page at a time because the deep state's writing it as they go along.

Sometimes there are many pages. But the media, being incredibly stupid, gets one page at a time.

The script will change.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 17, 2024 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

5 The next few months will only confirm that the media are nothing more than a party organ for the Ruling Party, and every newspaper, TV station and other media outlet are nothing more, nothing less than government mouthpieces.

Much like Neues Deutschland back in the day.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 11:15 AM (Bn2JH)

6 In the USA those states(90% red) that have the highest rates of incarceration also have the highest rates of homicide.
Incarceration doesn't seem to be helping them much.
Perhaps spending more on education like the blue states with low homicide rates might help?

Posted by: Paul banned at February 17, 2024 11:15 AM (VEOMc)

7 It seems the corrupt, senile old pervert actually thinks he's a good president.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 11:16 AM (xcrUy)

8 "Yesterday's sunrise in Central California"

---

Is that smog?

Ok, on to the post...

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:16 AM (azC9v)

9 Hi, Skip!

Posted by: KT at February 17, 2024 11:16 AM (rrtZS)

10 This trickle soon to be a flood will be why Sundowner in 6 months might be saying he will not run.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2024 11:18 AM (fwDg9)

11 so now we have our own version of Kremlinology?

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 17, 2024 11:19 AM (AcWfM)

12 BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:16 AM

Low clouds, AKA Tule fog

Posted by: KT at February 17, 2024 11:20 AM (rrtZS)

13 "Yesterday's sunrise in Central California"

A little late for fire season, isn't it? Usually it precedes, and makes possible, mudslide season.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2024 11:21 AM (RUTNR)

14 Who is the intended target audience for this statement?

People outside the target audience may roll their eyes at a statement that is fully accepted by the target audience.

There may be more than one target audience. The center left is a typical target audience for the White House and the MSM, but they may also be targeting some "red meat" folks on the right whom they wish to provoke into stereotypically bad behavior, to scare their base.

If there is more than one intended audience, is the speaker trying to get some people on the right to do something stupid in order to look "based"?

It may be worthwhile to point out the intended target audience or audiences to your friends. Who might care in the coming months about what the press thought about Biden's mental acuity in February, for example? Who might profit by pointing out that "the right" is attacking a feeble old man, even after the Democrats choose someone else as their leader?


She has a different audience, but it's the same tactic for Fani Willis. She desperately wants a white person to call her "angry".

http://tinyurl.com/yre5m2kb


Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:22 AM (CsUN+)

15 Pro-Palestinian students at Leeds University in the UK have called to kill the campus Rabbi, rape his wife, and murder their children.

==

UK sux

Posted by: runner at February 17, 2024 11:23 AM (V13WU)

16 They don't incarcerate them in blue states. That way, it looks like there are no issues. When do you plan to move to Detroit or Baltimore, Paul?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 17, 2024 11:24 AM (USTAS)

17 "While the left is using Navalny's death to attack the conservatives for opposing the Ukraine War, the Dems are defending CCP's most powerful weapon against America, TikTok. . ."

Meanwhile Gonzalo Lira is still dead.

And Julian Assange is about the be extradited to the U.S., where he can rot in prison for the the rest of his life.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:24 AM (ERjZP)

18 The next few months will only confirm that the media are nothing more than a party organ for the Ruling Party...

The only people who haven't known that for years are the ones not knowing it on purpose. So I don't really expect anything to change.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 17, 2024 11:25 AM (sNc8Y)

19 The future of El Salvador remains uncertain. Bukele might not last, or he might desire power beyond democracy. But the short-term implication is clear: societies with the determination to reduce crime can do so. Lock up criminals, don't solipsize over "root causes."

Given the choice between a dictatorial Bukele and a bunch of homicidal psycho gang dictators, I know which the people of El Salvador would choose.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:25 AM (CsUN+)

20 Locking up violent criminals works. Discipline, not wealth, is the key.

If you listen closely, you can hear the screeching from BLM.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 17, 2024 11:25 AM (lXCUP)

21 One thing people have to remember about Dirty Joe is that he has always been a dim bulb and a low life prick. Sonofabitch, after cheating his way through law school should have spent his days in a downtown office upstairs from an appliance store, fucking up wills and real estate closings.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 17, 2024 11:26 AM (0EOe9)

22 I didn't think Biden would be in office nearly as long as he has been, and boldly made my wrong predictions of an early exit.

That said, my newest prediction is that he'll finish his term but not stay in the race. He'll be out between the end of the primaries and the beginning of the convention. This will let The Party install their choice, who I still think will be Kamala.

Posted by: davidt at February 17, 2024 11:26 AM (SYTee)

23 What does that nasty old dementia patient mean by putting the country back on its feet?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 11:09 AM (xcrUy)


He is taking away your cars, son. Taking away your cars and making public transit so dangerous that walking miles seems an improvement.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:26 AM (D7oie)

24 Posted by: Paul banned at February 17, 2024 11:15 AM (VEOMc)

Who is committing those homicides?

You should start a campaign to call for a national divorce so you can create that Leftist utopia that the Right is preventing you from having.

Posted by: Naples Yellow at February 17, 2024 11:26 AM (w6AZl)

25 Indeed. I'm Jewish, my family is black. We're all Americans. So we're deep down on the Arab shit list. It's not inconceivable that one might threaten us someday.

If it ever happens here in the good ol' USA, my family is definitely going into hiding. Because as soon as they're safely ensconced I'm sending an invite on Twitter for all my local Mohammedans to come get a piece of this action. I'll make the affront costly for them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 11:27 AM (0FoWg)

26 The script will change.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 17, 2024 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

For example, the new script says:

Fauci never said...

1. Wear a mask
2. 6' apart
3. Vaccines will stop you from getting the virus
D. Keep the schools closed

Never never never.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:27 AM (ERjZP)

27 I love how Biden says "folks" are calling it shrinkflation, because, you know, he's one of you, one of those who are suffering, and he certainly had nothing to do with the cause of shrinkflation.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:28 AM (CsUN+)

28 Paul, cut the Dem controlled cities out of your stats and then show them you are citing stats like your leader another demented fool.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 17, 2024 11:28 AM (M8pNi)

29 Paul, free advice: Stop huffing paint.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 17, 2024 11:29 AM (lXCUP)

30
Antisemitism by State:

Highest: NY, CA, NJ (blue, oh so blue) - Columbia, Berkley, Stanford, Princeton.....coincidence??? I think NOT!


Posted by: runner at February 17, 2024 11:29 AM (V13WU)

31 That said, my newest prediction is that he'll finish his term but not stay in the race. He'll be out between the end of the primaries and the beginning of the convention. This will let The Party install their choice, who I still think will be Kamala.

Some of us have been predicting exactly that for a year.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:30 AM (CsUN+)

32 That male folklorico dancer is really rocking the lime green shirt with the red pants. I don't think I could pull that look off in public.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2024 11:30 AM (991eG)

33 Pawl *likes* stepping in human shit.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 17, 2024 11:30 AM (llON8)

34 That said, my newest prediction is that he'll finish his term but not stay in the race. He'll be out between the end of the primaries and the beginning of the convention. This will let The Party install their choice, who I still think will be Kamala.

Some of us have been predicting exactly that for a year.


Except it won't be Kamala. What would be the point of replacing one loser with an even worse loser. Fani Willis would do better.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:30 AM (CsUN+)

35 Paul, if you would remove crime stats involving Little Rock, and maybe North Little Rock, this whole state would be in the per capita crime range of Mayberry, NC.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 17, 2024 11:31 AM (0EOe9)

36 *Berkeley

Posted by: runner at February 17, 2024 11:31 AM (V13WU)

37 Poor Paul, using the old script.

State data... look at the states.

"Red" states with high homicide rates? Look where they occur.

Oh lookie there! It's all concentrated in "blue" cities within those red states!

*Plonk* Next.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:31 AM (ERjZP)

38 BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:16 AM

Low clouds, AKA Tule fog
Posted by: KT

You forgot to include pejoratives before 'Tule fog'.
Grandparents and loads of cousins in and around Visalia, we visited them often enough that I learned to really *dislike* your fogs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 17, 2024 11:32 AM (M8pNi)

39 Given the choice between a dictatorial Bukele and a bunch of homicidal psycho gang dictators, I know which the people of El Salvador would choose.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:25 AM (CsUN+)


This isn't "law enforcement" this is more like having to cope with the Reavers living in the housing authority project across town.

Bukele is most likely going to have to kill a lot of them, if not most of them.

One of the interesting bits of information is that one of the Spanish papers is saying that Bukele has a "kitchen cabinet" of ex pat Venezuelans, who fled Chavez and Maduro, who he has advising him on how to get and keep popular support, and various tactics employed by the Venezuelan state.
This apparently is the worstest thing evar to the reporters at El Pais, though Maduro and Chavez are lauded for their ability to continue to be relected and maintain power in the face of economic and political chaos.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:32 AM (D7oie)

40 Nobody liked or wanted Biden. They put him in office.

Nobody likes or wants Kamala. They'll put her in office the same way.

Posted by: davidt at February 17, 2024 11:32 AM (SYTee)

41 I often posted Sundowner would be long gone by now, but I am now certain the Democrats try and run him they will need 100 million fake ballots, or declare the election null and void due to a Trump takeover

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2024 11:33 AM (fwDg9)

42 Doesn't Paul take weekends off?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 11:33 AM (xcrUy)

43 That said, my newest prediction is that he'll finish his term but not stay in the race. He'll be out between the end of the primaries and the beginning of the convention. This will let The Party install their choice, who I still think will be Kamala.
Posted by: davidt at February 17, 2024 11:26 AM (SYTee)


does my continued (and boring) claim that Janet Yellen will be 47 seem so insane now?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (D7oie)

44 Doesn't Paul take weekends off?

Are you assuming he has a job? Not many of those in his mom's basement.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (CsUN+)

45 I think the deep state has already decided on replacing *biden and/or Harris. It's apparent that for now, it's *biden they want to step down or be removed. I think they can get away with one or the other being replaced for "reasons," but not both. Their problem is not who, but HOW.

If Harris was to move up I can see her getting a shot at first woman (black) president to satisfy the left's desire for that particular trophy, but I'm not sure she'll be able to fulfill the term before being axed.

I'd put money on Harris stepping up, but who gets her VP slot might just be the one the movers and shakers really want in the Oval Office.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (Q4IgG)

46 It seems the corrupt, senile old pervert actually thinks he's a good president.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 11:16 AM (xcrUy)

It's like being a pig in a pen full of human body eaters.

You think you're a good pig, yes you do! Who's a good piggy piggy!! You are!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (ERjZP)

47 Blue states and their universities are the reason we have the highest rates of antisemitism this nation has ever seen ! What a shame!

Posted by: runner at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (V13WU)

48 >>> "well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory."

They are throwing Biden under the bus and
using his dementia as an excuse to stop the investigations because they know where those threads will lead.

Deep State Defeats Own Puppet - Wins Again

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (cOq4q)

49 That male folklorico dancer is really rocking the lime green shirt with the red pants. I don't think I could pull that look off in public.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2024 11:30 AM (991eG)


Those colors are perfect for Salsa

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:35 AM (D7oie)

50 Biden screwed his pals by running for second term. That is not what they agreed.

Posted by: runner at February 17, 2024 11:36 AM (V13WU)

51 Nobody liked or wanted Biden. They put him in office.

Nobody likes or wants Kamala. They'll put her in office the same way.


If they can so easily replace the candidate with anyone they choose, why would they choose Kamala? Why wouldn't they choose someone who people don't, you know, hate?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:36 AM (CsUN+)

52 Biden screwed his pals by running for second term. That is not what they agreed.

Bingo!

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:37 AM (CsUN+)

53 No fkin way is the Democrats putting any hope someone will vote for The Ho

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2024 11:37 AM (fwDg9)

54 That said, my newest prediction is that he'll finish his term but not stay in the race. He'll be out between the end of the primaries and the beginning of the convention. This will let The Party install their choice, who I still think will be Kamala.
Posted by: davidt at February 17, 2024 11:26 AM (SYTee)

It's all mock draft speculation at this point.

I've given up trying to predict, except that I predict whatever DOES happen, the vast majority of us will be astonished, saying "well, I wasn't expecting THAT!"

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:37 AM (ERjZP)

55 It's often said that the Dems won't replace a black woman, because that would infuriate the blacks. I think it's possible it would infuriate black women, but black men, I'm told, can't stand her. You can't win a national election with only black women.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:39 AM (CsUN+)

56 I don't think I could pull that look off in public.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2024 11:30 AM (991eG)

If you do, you will be arrested and charged with indecent exposure.

(Has anyone ever been charged with decent exposure?)

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:40 AM (ERjZP)

57 Biden is the perfect president. He does as he is told signs what they tell him to and tries to stay out of trouble with them. He mouths the platitudes they feed him.
He runs nothing.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 17, 2024 11:40 AM (MeG8a)

58 We'll know for sure when they mock Biden on SNL.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 17, 2024 11:41 AM (RIvkX)

59 Can anyone please link the ace post or the morning report that has the link for NY changing their law to go afterTrump with the victimless loan $364M settlement?

I need to go after a lefty hammer and tongs to force their eyes open.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 17, 2024 11:42 AM (MsrgL)

60 Vox ran a piece this last week, and they usually reflect Establishment Democrat thinking, that sadly, the Dem Party was now stuck with Biden, because they had waited too long for there to be any other choice. (unless he kicks the bucket, and then its Kamala) The only democrats who think differently now are counting on some kind of Deus ex Machina at the Convention, where everyone there miraculously agrees on some other nominee, even though no one can say who that would be.
(and in fact the democrat factions would rip each other to shreds)

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 11:42 AM (q3gwH)

61 Nobody likes or wants Kamala. They'll put her in office the same way.
Posted by: davidt at February 17, 2024 11:32 AM (SYTee)

I'm not sure.

They'll certainly wedge whomever they please into that chair.

And in 2019, the dominant Kalorama faction wanted Harris. That was a pretty big dud, and they had to settle for placing her a heartbeat away from it, behind an ancient, dying thief & pervert whose eye exploded during their debate, because he was somehow, against all odds, more acceptable to the public than she was.

If I absolutely *had* to place a bet on this, I'd still bet on Harris. Jarrett & Co. started grooming her for this approximately one millisecond after she wedged Obama into that chair, and she is their creature.

But I also think the shine has worn off, and they may have buyer's remorse. Newsome or Whitmer may get slotted in instead.

But I think this time, they're stuck with Brandon - *if* they can keep his tiny little black heart pumping Adderall through his veins for six more long months.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 11:42 AM (0FoWg)

62 "Gee guys, I don't know what to do now. The old bastard wasn't supposed to run for another term. I do have one idea, so listen closely. It'll be a twofer, and we might get some gun control mileage out of it."

The planning committee hanging out in a Kalorama basement.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 17, 2024 11:42 AM (0EOe9)

63 Or replace a Mixed race woman with a Black woman
Mooch

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2024 11:43 AM (fwDg9)

64 does my continued (and boring) claim that Janet Yellen will be 47 seem so insane now?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (D7oie)

I'll say this, she looks TERRIBLE for her age.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:43 AM (ERjZP)

65 I think a lot of the Democrats really really wanted Haley to win the nom, and they would even have voted for her - but only because she is just another Deep State creation, and thus no threat to them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 11:44 AM (q3gwH)

66 The only democrats who think differently now are counting on some kind of Deus ex Machina at the Convention, where everyone there miraculously agrees on some other nominee, even though no one can say who that would be.

It won't happen at the Convention; that's too obvious. It will be decided in smoke-filled back rooms, and after it has been made plain to Joe that very bad things will happen if he doesn't drop out after he gets the nom. He WILL be the nom, but not on the ticket in November.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:44 AM (CsUN+)

67 I’ve said for quite some time and still believe that as long as mushbrains is alive he will be the dem nominee after their convention and in November. He. Will. Not. Step. Aside. He’s too stubborn…. The dementia enforces the stubbornness. He will have the delegates; no one else is on primary ballots. It’s a fait accompli

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 17, 2024 11:45 AM (xT8gx)

68 64 does my continued (and boring) claim that Janet Yellen will be 47 seem so insane now?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (D7oie)

I'll say this, she looks TERRIBLE for her age.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:43 AM (ERjZP)

the only way she could be 47 is if she lost a force fight with Mace Windu.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 11:46 AM (q3gwH)

69 Biden is the perfect president. He does as he is told signs what they tell him to and tries to stay out of trouble with them. He mouths the platitudes they feed him.
He runs nothing.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 17, 2024 11:40 AM (MeG8a)

*Shows video of Nikki bowing to the CCP flag, saying "I now work for you."*

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:46 AM (ERjZP)

70 While assessing the FBI, members of Congress might read Neutering the CIA: Why US Intelligence versus Trump Has Long-Term Consequences. Former CIA analyst John A. Gentry charts a woke agency now deployed against “another serious candidacy by Trump,” with units ready for reactivation “if even a traditional Republican again becomes president.” This from an agency tasked with providing intelligence on foreign adversaries.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2024 11:46 AM (ENQN6)

71 Vox ran a piece this last week, and they usually reflect Establishment Democrat thinking, that sadly, the Dem Party was now stuck with Biden, because they had waited too long for there to be any other choice. (unless he kicks the bucket, and then its Kamala) The only democrats who think differently now are counting on some kind of Deus ex Machina at the Convention, where everyone there miraculously agrees on some other nominee, even though no one can say who that would be.
(and in fact the democrat factions would rip each other to shreds)


Since when do we take Vox seriously?

As to whether they could do it, I've been hearing for many years, but especially the last 3 years, that the behind-the-scenes eminences gris are all-powerful. Now, suddenly, they're helpless? I don't think so.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:47 AM (CsUN+)

72 39 This isn't "law enforcement" this is more like having to cope with the Reavers living in the housing authority project across town.

OK, that is the best analogy I've ever read on this topic.

Bukele is most likely going to have to kill a lot of them, if not most of them.

Sadly, that may be our best option unless we can make some man made island in the middle of nowhere to store them.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:32 AM (D7oie)

Posted by: NR Pax at February 17, 2024 11:47 AM (lXCUP)

73 Or replace a Mixed race woman with a Black woman
Mooch


Mooch has made it clear that she doesn't want to run, and I believe her. Besides, if there is any person on the planet more unpleasant than Hillary, it's her. She would lose bigly.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:48 AM (CsUN+)

74 >>Nobody liked or wanted Biden. They put him in office.

>>Nobody likes or wants Kamala. They'll put her in office the same way.

If they can put anyone they want in the presidency why swap out Biden?

We aren't communist China yet. To a much lesser degree than it should the will of the people still matters in the US. They spent the 2020 campaign hiding Joe in his basement and used the media to build a fake persona for Joe, the kindly, experienced, successful legislator who would unite the country after the 4 years of chaos under OrangeManBad! Enough people bought the lie.

Reality has crushed that myth and exposed Kamala. The country won't buy either one of them as winning the election unless something changes dramatically. It would be much worse than 2020.

They need a candidate who they can at least build a plausible cause for beating Trump. They are running low on options and time.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 11:49 AM (LkLld)

75 It won't happen at the Convention; that's too obvious. It will be decided in smoke-filled back rooms, and after it has been made plain to Joe that very bad things will happen if he doesn't drop out after he gets the nom. He WILL be the nom, but not on the ticket in November.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:44 AM (CsUN+)

New Jersey could pull that with Torricelli, but it won't work nationally, because it would mean 50 state by state fights to change the ballots. They would win some of those fights, but not all of them.

and that would lead to - could they win with a nominee who was only on the ballot in 23 states? Mathematically, probably, but actually? No, the country would break up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 11:49 AM (q3gwH)

76 Sadly, that may be our best option unless we can make some man made island in the middle of nowhere to store them.

Preferably one with a live volcano.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+)

77 the only way she could be 47 is if she lost a force fight with Mace Windu.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 11:46 AM (q3gwH)

Hah! Not only does she have underwear old then 47, she's got skidmark stains on them, where the carbon dating on the layers reveals year 47 to be somewhere in the middle.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:50 AM (ERjZP)

78 Harris is very unpopular, with a certain segment of the population. I bet the audience that watches "The View" would dearly love to see Kamala in the Oval Office. So would all those idiots who wore pink "pussy" hats. So would Antifa and the hardcore left.

Think about who would actually support her presidency. A lot of them are the exact same people who are driving society into the sewer. The transgenders, the gays and all the other, disenfranchised weirdos. She's practically one of them.

But, as I said, I think she's a placeholder for whoever is chosen as her VP. That's the person who will assume the presidency when Harris "steps down." Probably sometime during 2025.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 17, 2024 11:51 AM (Q4IgG)

79 A bait and switch can't possibly be just another plug in person, it will need to be someone with some star power, at least to the Propaganda Ministry to cheer about. Someone unknown isn't going to get far in a Presidential election in 3 months

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2024 11:51 AM (fwDg9)

80
Wholley Kau!

This is crazy and...well...evil:

https://pjmedia.com/benbartee/2024/02/17/cheerios-

chemically-castrating-american-public-with-impunity-

n4926521?

Remove extra spaces.

This probably explains why Our Betters are so crazy to get us to eat chemically-manufactured/enhanced-

Plant-Meat or Bug-Meat

who knows what chemicals they're loaded with.

Chemical Warfare against the Deplorables?

Awesome?

Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2024 11:51 AM (nFnyb)

81 Now, suddenly, they're helpless? I don't think so.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:47 AM (CsUN+)

Certainly not. But like most people, they choose the path of least resistance. Right now, I think Brandon is that path. He certainly can't do another four years. But if they can get him through the door again, and I think they can, then the path is clear for Harris. Or whomever they force her to resign in favor of, and who will easily pass a Senate confirmation, whatever the Senate's composition next year may be.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 11:51 AM (0FoWg)

82 76 Preferably one with a live volcano.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+)


OK, that's a possibility. I figure as long as they are removed and future criminals know that they will be removed, I'll take what we can get.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 17, 2024 11:52 AM (lXCUP)

83 68 64 does my continued (and boring) claim that Janet Yellen will be 47 seem so insane now?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (D7oie)

I'll say this, she looks TERRIBLE for her age.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:43 AM (ERjZP)

the only way she could be 47 is if she lost a force fight with Mace Windu.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 11:46 AM (q3gwH)

You guys got me…. I looked it up, per Wikipedia she’s 77. I knew she couldn’t be 47!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 17, 2024 11:52 AM (xT8gx)

84 Mooch has made it clear that she doesn't want to run, and I believe her.

The "I didn't want to do this but I will selflessly answer The Call of My Country" thing is so old and stale that it should have a number like the joke about the vaudeville comics retirement home.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 17, 2024 11:52 AM (sNc8Y)

85 New Jersey could pull that with Torricelli, but it won't work nationally, because it would mean 50 state by state fights to change the ballots. They would win some of those fights, but not all of them.

Why would this be a problem (honest question)? The whole thing hinges on getting Joe to withdraw, not visibly kicking him out. They have plenty of levers they can use to get his to do so. Once he's gone, they can print up whatever ballots they choose. I'm sure they have a procedure, otherwise what would happen if the nom died between the convention and the election? Do you think they wouldn't run someone?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:52 AM (CsUN+)

86 "The United States has a per capita GDP of $70,000 and a homicide rate of 5.5 per 100,000."

Tucker visited a Russian grocery, and prices seemed "normal". BUT the media per capita GDP in Russia is $27K ... so Russians spend 2.5 times as much of their income on groceries.

Of course the black murder rate has everything to do with the US murder rate being high. And that happens mostly in "Deep Blue Cities" (run by diversity hires).

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2024 11:53 AM (Cus5s)

87 This from an agency tasked with providing intelligence on foreign adversaries.
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2024 11:46 AM (ENQN6)

Yeah, the interview Tucker did with Mike Benz, the Deep State expert, they seem to operate under the assumption the CIA won't work on U.S. soil.

Uh huh. Sure.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:53 AM (ERjZP)

88 *They need a candidate who they can at least build a plausible cause for beating Trump. They are running low on options and time.*

Ahem. Tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: Marianne Williamson at February 17, 2024 11:53 AM (NBVIP)

89 >>Doesn't Paul take weekends off?

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU ASSUME THERE IS ONE "PAUL."

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at February 17, 2024 11:54 AM (RXyKO)

90 Since when do we take Vox seriously?

As to whether they could do it, I've been hearing for many years, but especially the last 3 years, that the behind-the-scenes eminences gris are all-powerful. Now, suddenly, they're helpless? I don't think so.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:47 AM (CsUN+)

The only thing I take Vox as speaking is the Establishment Dem's mindset - that is their purpose, just as DU and those hilarious posts of their headlines shows up the loony low level leftists thinking. The Establisment Dems are beginning to become despondent, because they should have started to make a change right after the last midterm - but they didn't. No one ever did anything, and no one pushed Kamala out, even though they should have.

and sometimes it is just too damn late to do all the things you know that you should have done, but didn't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 11:54 AM (q3gwH)

91 (Has anyone ever been charged with decent exposure?)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:40 AM (ERjZP)


I expect a few photographers who promised outstanding service may have been hit with a civil case or two . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:54 AM (D7oie)

92 If the media continues to press him that vile man will complain about unfair media coverage unlike the coverage Trump got.
He will then have a complete shrieking meltdown.
Dr Jill will have to lead him off.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 11:55 AM (xcrUy)

93 Re: Folklorico dancing

In my dad's WWII diary, shortly before deploying to Anzio he enjoyed a few days R&R in Na[pl;s and viewed a local group performing a Tarantella. He described it this way:

Feb 2
Slept late. Could have gone to Capri but couldn’t see the use in wasting a day like that. Spent the morning shopping and the afternoon cruising around in the General’s car. The coast drive around the point at Sorrento is certainly beautiful.
Had a native dance, original from Sorrento, as a floor show at dinner. Quaint old country costumes. Dance is called “Tarantilla” or something like that.


http://tinyurl.com/yejmzvka

Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2024 11:55 AM (991eG)

94 We're talking about the age of Janet Yelling's underwear?
Yuck. I need a shower.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 17, 2024 11:55 AM (NBVIP)

95 The "I didn't want to do this but I will selflessly answer The Call of My Country" thing is so old and stale that it should have a number like the joke about the vaudeville comics retirement home.

True, but it was always employed by people with legitimate claims to being a national leader, e.g., George Washington, although in his case, it's possible he really DIDN'T want to be the first president.

Mooch is lazy, obnoxious, utterly unaccomplished, and offputting. Okay, so that makes her a Dem candidate possibility, but she just doesn't seem to want it.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:55 AM (CsUN+)

96 >>> 92 If the media continues to press him that vile man will complain about unfair media coverage unlike the coverage Trump got.
He will then have a complete shrieking meltdown.
Dr Jill will have to lead him off.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 11:55 AM (xcrUy)

I am *very* disappointed this still has not happened.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 17, 2024 11:56 AM (llON8)

97 "Why wouldn't they choose someone who people don't, you know, hate?"

But the most important people love her! Idiots, perverts, and crooks strongly identify with her, and they are the core of the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at February 17, 2024 11:56 AM (8Ta2Y)

98 >>Doesn't Paul take weekends off?

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU ASSUME THERE IS ONE "PAUL."
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at

Who is the mother Paul?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 11:56 AM (xcrUy)

99 Chemical Warfare against the Deplorables?

Awesome?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2024 11:51 AM (nFnyb)

Once more, I shall beat my same drum:

Look at whatever they're doing... is there any indication anything they're doing has any purpose that is NOT compatible with reducing human poopulation by 90%?

No? Well, there you go.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:57 AM (ERjZP)

100 David Axelrod, who speaks for Obama, said there is no way Michelle would run.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 11:57 AM (LkLld)

101 Doesn't Paul take weekends off?

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU ASSUME THERE IS ONE "PAUL."
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at February 17, 2024 11:54 AM (RXyKO)


It takes a team effort to be that stupid and clueless.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2024 11:57 AM (nFnyb)

102 does my continued (and boring) claim that Janet Yellen will be 47 seem so insane now?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:34 AM (D7oie)
===

You are trippin' bro.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 17, 2024 11:57 AM (RIvkX)

103 There's more to the story about Kurt Russell's gift to Charles Bronson than is reflected in that Tweet photo.

http://tinyurl.com/3c553jum

Posted by: Paco at February 17, 2024 11:57 AM (njExo)

104 Na[pl;s

WTH?

Naples

Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2024 11:57 AM (991eG)

105 Merry Christmas!

Our Christmas was delayed because of Mrs. Wrecks' broken leg so we're having it today.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at February 17, 2024 11:58 AM (EODYn)

106 I'll say this, she looks TERRIBLE for her age.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:43 AM (ERjZP)


Looking at all the upper lever of the geriatric oligarchs, I think whatever they are taking for life extension isn't working very well.

Remember Poe's short story The Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:58 AM (D7oie)

107 Because Willowed:

Near Queen Creek.
Posted by: Jordan61 at February 17, 2024 11:16 AM (z0Mbj)

You're not that far from me, and AZ Deplorable. Maybe a dozen miles. There's a fun Old West style saloon and eatery in Queen Creek, right on the main drag. You want to try and do a meetup?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2024 11:58 AM (tkR6S)

108 You guys got me…. I looked it up, per Wikipedia she’s 77. I knew she couldn’t be 47!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 17, 2024 11:52 AM (xT8gx)

Never underestimate our ability to take any comment and take it off into a tangent that has no basis in reality.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 11:58 AM (ERjZP)

109 >>Wholley Kau!
This is crazy and...well...evil:


And it's *oats* - a healthy food.
We instinctively know the neon orange, ultra-processed Doritos are full of unhealthy chemicals, but this is hitting people who have a bowl of heart-healthy, un-processed oatmeal in the morning. I make homemade granola (a simple, very lightly sweetened kind because commercial granola is like candy). Thought that was healthy, but no - even the simple rolled oats I buy are harmful.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2024 11:59 AM (RXyKO)

110 No one ever did anything, and no one pushed Kamala out, even though they should have.

and sometimes it is just too damn late to do all the things you know that you should have done, but didn't.


At some point, the assertion that Biden is capable of another 4 years doesn't pass the laugh test, even with the Dem faithful, and we passed that point long ago. Kamala does not make things better.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of them running Joe and Kamala; they're a lead pipe cinch to lose, but I doubt even they are that stupid.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:59 AM (CsUN+)

111 Once he's gone, they can print up whatever ballots they choose. I'm sure they have a procedure, otherwise what would happen if the nom died between the convention and the election? Do you think they wouldn't run someone?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:52 AM (CsUN+)

If Joe kicks the bucket, Kamala takes his place, that's the easy part. If he's gone, then Kamala becomes the obvious nominee, as she will be the sitting President and the head of the Democrat Party. The real problem is that they know they need to get rid of BOTH Joe and Kamala, and I just do not see any way they can do that.
and neither do they.

They should have let RFK Jr. run in their primaries, at least he would have given them an option. But the Deep State hates him almost as much as they hate Trump.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 11:59 AM (q3gwH)

112 Merry Christmas!

Our Christmas was delayed because of Mrs. Wrecks' broken leg so we're having it today.


You better have those lights down by noon tomorrow!!

Posted by: Your HOA at February 17, 2024 12:00 PM (sNc8Y)

113 >>Who is the mother Paul?

Act Blue?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2024 12:01 PM (RXyKO)

114 Mooch is lazy, obnoxious, utterly unaccomplished, and offputting. Okay, so that makes her a Dem candidate possibility, but she just doesn't seem to want it.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:55 AM (CsUN+)

David Axelrod is quite close to the Obama’s and he said just this week quite emphatically she ain’t gonna do it. Zero interest. I think Ace featured that

It’s gonna be Brandon and he’ll do the basement thing again; he certainly won’t dare debate Trump. His campaign will say we’re not gonna lower ourselves to debate an insurrectionist

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 17, 2024 12:01 PM (xT8gx)

115 I expect a few photographers who promised outstanding service may have been hit with a civil case or two . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:54 AM (D7oie)

I forget where, but I recall recently, someone who's wedding photog was not the guy they hired, but some assistant... and the guy slipped in a fountain and ruined all the film.

Lawsuit.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:02 PM (ERjZP)

116 We're talking about the age of Janet Yelling's underwear?
Yuck. I need a shower.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at February 17, 2024 11:55 AM (NBVIP)

Archeology is an ugly business.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:02 PM (ERjZP)

117 play the record backwards so you can understand what he said.

Posted by: Eromero at February 17, 2024 12:02 PM (Wed3T)

118 It may be confusing to watch the press for the next few months

-
There's blood in the water.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at February 17, 2024 12:03 PM (EODYn)

119 Buy. Ammo.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at February 17, 2024 12:03 PM (17s+e)

120 David Axelrod, who speaks for Obama, said there is no way Michelle would run.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 11:57 AM (LkLld)

I believe that's true, but how many times did Steinbrenner say he wasn't going to fire Billy? Yogi?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:04 PM (ERjZP)

121 >>> Can anyone please link the ace post or the morning report that has the link for NY changing their law to go afterTrump with the victimless loan $364M settlement?
I need to go after a lefty hammer and tongs to force their eyes open.
Posted by: BifBewalski

/// REUSED FROM PREVIOUS THREAD. ///

Their own judicial system is killing them. There are no restraints on their high court, and when they tried legislating some small, reasonable limits, the court said, "Hell no, denied!"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

The 'judicial system' is weakest and most corruptable organ in any state. The 'judge' gives lawful credibility to even the most egregious acts of despotic state actors.
This is true here, there, anywhere.

It's also why when shit goes sideways judges become of special interest for all parties, whether they be the 'legitimate' government or 'insurrectionists'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 17, 2024 12:04 PM (cOq4q)

122
Nikki Haley gets Secret Service protection because they want her alive. RFK Jr does not get Secret Service protection because they want him dead.

Nasty people run this country. But 'mean tweets' is an issue. I mean WTF?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 12:05 PM (nIvob)

123 If Joe kicks the bucket, Kamala takes his place, that's the easy part. If he's gone, then Kamala becomes the obvious nominee, as she will be the sitting President and the head of the Democrat Party. The real problem is that they know they need to get rid of BOTH Joe and Kamala, and I just do not see any way they can do that.
and neither do they.


I can see them picking someone else, and then saying "Our new nom must be allowed to pick his or her own team". Chances that he would pick Kamala: zero.zero. In any case, if the nom is plausible, the Dems are still better off with a replacement / Kamala ticket than a Biden / Kamala ticket.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 12:05 PM (CsUN+)

124 >>Yeah, the interview Tucker did with Mike Benz, the Deep State expert, they seem to operate under the assumption the CIA won't work on U.S. soil.

>>Uh huh. Sure.

The agency that flies below the radar that was the real enabler for the 2020 election crap including the vast censorship network is CISA. They were also in charge of certifying the electronic voting machines in 2020 and they did that by hiring people from the manufacturers of the voting machines to certify them.

That agency needs to be destroyed.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:05 PM (LkLld)

125 Russia is under authoritarianism. There is no doubt about it.
The same media that exposes the political corruption in Russia mostly ignores the CCP.

Navalny was the leader of an opposition party
He was an open critic of Putin
He organized anti govt demonstrations
He ran for office
He founded the Anti-Corruption Foundation
He had supporters ...

Replace Trump with Navalny. Sounds just like Biden USA to me.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at February 17, 2024 12:05 PM (17s+e)

126 Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of them running Joe and Kamala; they're a lead pipe cinch to lose, but I doubt even they are that stupid.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 11:59 AM (CsUN+)

I don't think they're that stupid either, hence the despondency. Right now they're like Laurel and Hardy holding paint cans, trying to figure out how to get out of the corner they've painted themselves into.

Destroying their primary process and making Joe the only allowed candidate will end up being the error that costs them the most.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:05 PM (q3gwH)

127 Remember Poe's short story The Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:58 AM (D7oie)

I have my Poe anthology here, used it for my "bathroom" book for a while, but it's a bit too dense for that.

Or I am.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:06 PM (ERjZP)

128 We will not know for sure who is running until August at earliest

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2024 12:06 PM (fwDg9)

129 Glad to see all lovely hoardlings out and about! I am sure taking no guff from the commies

Posted by: SuniD at February 17, 2024 12:06 PM (4jtdv)

130 RFK Jr. is still a gun grabber. Somebody should present a question. "Would you feel safer being armed and able to shoot back if some nut Arab tried to shoot you?"

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 17, 2024 12:06 PM (0EOe9)

131 Russia is under authoritarianism. There is no doubt about it.

Russia is an authoritarian state headed towards totalitarianism.

China has been a totalitarian state since 1949. China has disputes among the elites, but the public isn't allowed to participate in those disputes.

An example - an anti-war candidate in Russia was allowed to collect signatures to be placed on the ballot for the presidential election next month. The Central Elections Commission disqualified him, using some pretext or another, but he was still allowed to do it.

Imagine a group of people trying that against Xi.

Actually, we don't have to imagine - Falun Gong assembled 10,000 demonstrators outside the Bejing district that housed the elite without the knowledge of the Chinese Communist Party in 1999 - the CCP completely freaked out at an anti-Party demonstration occurring without them knowing about it beforehand, and sentenced them all to long prison terms.

Posted by: Chuck Schumer, A-Hole! at February 17, 2024 12:06 PM (YAtuc)

132 Biden will be it, unless he dies or something like that. At which point conventional politics would end. Hillary would unzip her human suit and declare the Age of Man over and the Age of Lizard People at hand. All reproduction that doesn't involve laying eggs is outlawed. It's in the Bible.

Posted by: Y'all Is So Ignorant at February 17, 2024 12:06 PM (pjs7m)

133 Bukele is most likely going to have to kill a lot of them, if not most of them.

One of the interesting bits of information is that one of the Spanish papers is saying that Bukele has a "kitchen cabinet" of ex pat Venezuelans, who fled Chavez and Maduro, who he has advising him on how to get and keep popular support, and various tactics employed by the Venezuelan state.
This apparently is the worstest thing evar to the reporters at El Pais, though Maduro and Chavez are lauded for their ability to continue to be relected and maintain power in the face of economic and political chaos.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 11:32 AM (D7oie)

I cannot see any up side to keeping thousands of those face-tatted Orcs in jail for ever and ever. They should just be killing them out of hand. Only way out I see is to arrange for a massive prison revolt, then send in the Army with heavy weapons, to "restore peace".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2024 12:06 PM (tkR6S)

134 I forget where, but I recall recently, someone who's wedding photog was not the guy they hired, but some assistant... and the guy slipped in a fountain and ruined all the film.

A short story for no reason except that I'm just sitting here waiting for Mrs to get ready to leave the house.

When we got married, she was working at a video store (which in and of itself kind of dates things) and the owner graciously offered to video the wedding as his gift. As it happened, he was in a walking cast at the time and if you listen carefully, you can hear the "clump" on the tape each time the camera shifts position.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 17, 2024 12:07 PM (sNc8Y)

135 It’s gonna be Brandon and he’ll do the basement thing again; he certainly won’t dare debate Trump. His campaign will say we’re not gonna lower ourselves to debate an insurrectionist

Trump's refusal to debate his primary opponents will be cited as the precedent.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:08 PM (YAtuc)

136 Hillary would unzip her human suit and declare the Age of Man over and the Age of Lizard People at hand. All reproduction that doesn't involve laying eggs is outlawed. It's in the Bible.


So you're not saying that it's aliens, but it's aliens.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 17, 2024 12:08 PM (aD39U)

137 They should have let RFK Jr. run in their primaries, at least he would have given them an option. But the Deep State hates him almost as much as they hate Trump.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 11:59 AM (q3gwH)

Because the great threat they face, is people being allowed on acceptable platforms, things that are actually true*.


*I'm not saying everything RFK says is true, just that ANY truth isn't allowed.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:08 PM (ERjZP)

138 >>Trump's refusal to debate his primary opponents will be cited as the precedent.

Bold position for the candidate trailing in every poll and one a large majority already think is too old to do the job.

Joe didn't debate RFK or any of his challengers either.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:09 PM (LkLld)

139 This probably explains why Our Betters are so crazy to get us to eat chemically-manufactured/enhanced-

Plant-Meat or Bug-Meat

who knows what chemicals they're loaded with.

Chemical Warfare against the Deplorables?

Awesome?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2024 11:51 AM (nFnyb)


Everything they do is ultimately intended to reduce population. The aristocrats all were broken by Paul Ehrlich and still think his solutions need to be implemented. Bill Gates has said it out loud, but it's the logical endpoint of everything they're pushing.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 17, 2024 12:10 PM (FD5dr)

140 Nikki Haley gets Secret Service protection because they want her alive. RFK Jr does not get Secret Service protection because they want him dead.

Nasty people run this country. But 'mean tweets' is an issue. I mean WTF?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 12:05 PM (nIvob)

Apparently that's Mayorga's job, deciding whether to allow protection. Same guy who says the border's closed, and millions of unknowns pouring into the country is a good thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:10 PM (ERjZP)

141 The media is so dysfunctional they don't even know that they are dysfunctional.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 17, 2024 12:11 PM (R/m4+)

142 "The next few months will only confirm that the media are nothing more than a party organ for the Ruling Party..."

Tucker's recent interview made it clear that is exactly what they are. It is a very organized censorship/propaganda machine put in place. The new narrative replaces "democracy" (where voters choose leaders) the the New Democracy where "the democratic institutions" must be protected.

The Media is one of those official Institutions that must be protected at all cost. The Atlantic Council and other globalist powers are also part of the machine. "Misinformation" (i.e. telling the truth) is now a terrorist act.

Tucker on X
http://tinyurl.com/2hzwbm3h

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2024 12:11 PM (Cus5s)

143 Biden will be it, unless he dies or something like that. At which point conventional politics would end. Hillary would unzip her human suit and declare the Age of Man over and the Age of Lizard People at hand. All reproduction that doesn't involve laying eggs is outlawed. It's in the Bible.

I concede defeat and retire from the field.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 12:12 PM (CsUN+)

144 It will be Biden.
The campaign will be a joke.
The steal will be epic.
Then they will dare us...fuckin' dare us to do anything about it.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 17, 2024 12:12 PM (W/lyH)

145 The agency that flies below the radar that was the real enabler for the 2020 election crap including the vast censorship network is CISA. They were also in charge of certifying the electronic voting machines in 2020 and they did that by hiring people from the manufacturers of the voting machines to certify them.

That agency needs to be destroyed.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:05 PM (LkLld)

Right, but this is where people seem to get off the conspiracy train.

Who runs all these entities, both within government and without?

The CIA. They run things, their people are everywhere. Including elected pols, cabinet officeholders, and corporate media... as well as celebrities, etc.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:12 PM (ERjZP)

146 There is no border crisis, and the border crisis is the Republican's fault.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:12 PM (YAtuc)

147 >>Because the great threat they face, is people being allowed on acceptable platforms, things that are actually true*.

RFK jr may be a nutty Leftie, but he's had Bill Gates' and Fauci's number for many years. He was speaking and writing about Gates' sketchy AF infertility-causing vaccine testing in Africa and polio vaccine testing in India. He was suspicious of that crew/anti-vaxx long before Covid. No way they would let him have any opportunity to speak or run for office, Kennedy name or not.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2024 12:13 PM (RXyKO)

148 I read somewhere that Jon Stewart of the Daily Show tied into the Dems for all their blathering about how sharp and focused and scintillating Biden is in the meetings and conferences. Biden's public persona is such a rambling wreck, Steward accused them, so why don't they show videos of Biden from those meetings and conferences?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at February 17, 2024 12:14 PM (TOe+Q)

149 There is no border crisis, and the border crisis is the Republican's fault.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:12 PM (YAtuc)



It was amazing how in two weeks the line went from Our border is more secure than ever in history to Our border is in crisis and broad sweeping powers are need by the Administration to control it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 17, 2024 12:14 PM (aD39U)

150 Literally two weeks.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 17, 2024 12:14 PM (aD39U)

151 Nasty people run this country. But 'mean tweets' is an issue. I mean WTF?

Modern liberalism is driven by Karens. They demand other people be nice while they themselves are not.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 17, 2024 12:14 PM (FD5dr)

152 and it's Trump's fault

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 17, 2024 12:15 PM (aD39U)

153 It was amazing how in two weeks the line went from Our border is more secure than ever in history to Our border is in crisis and broad sweeping powers are need by the Administration to control it.

The amazing thing is that half of the country simply accepts this.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 12:15 PM (CsUN+)

154 When we got married, she was working at a video store (which in and of itself kind of dates things) and the owner graciously offered to video the wedding as his gift. As it happened, he was in a walking cast at the time and if you listen carefully, you can hear the "clump" on the tape each time the camera shifts position.
Posted by: Oddbob at February 17, 2024 12:07 PM (sNc8Y)

Heh. Use the footage (no pun intended), and you have two-thirds of a horror movie, already in the can.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:16 PM (ERjZP)

155 The balls on these fucking guys.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 17, 2024 12:16 PM (aD39U)

156
Apparently that's Mayorga's job, deciding whether to allow protection. Same guy who says the border's closed, and millions of unknowns pouring into the country is a good thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:10 PM


He's a puppet on a string. Biden is a puppet on a string. The Press Secretary is a puppet on a string. Blinken is a puppet on a string.

They all are. The puppet-master must be found and tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 12:16 PM (nIvob)

157 Next up: Biden uses so much super human brain power in private running the country that he is a complete blubbering senile idiot in public.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at February 17, 2024 12:17 PM (17s+e)

158 138 >>Trump's refusal to debate his primary opponents will be cited as the precedent.

Bold position for the candidate trailing in every poll and one a large majority already think is too old to do the job.

Joe didn't debate RFK or any of his challengers either.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:09 PM (LkLld)

funny thing about the GOP debates was that they were so pathetic that everyone agreed that Trump was the winner because he didn't show up.
Only good line I remember hearing was someone commenting about Tim Scott arguing with Ramswamy, they said "I looked at the debate and saw some black guy arguing with an Indian. I felt like I was in line at the 7-11."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:17 PM (q3gwH)

159 25
'Because as soon as they're safely ensconced I'm sending an invite on Twitter for all my local Mohammedans to come get a piece of this action.'

Save one for Paul.

Posted by: Dr. Claw contemplating a future almost too beautiful to imagine at February 17, 2024 12:18 PM (roH4R)

160 Right, but this is where people seem to get off the conspiracy train.

Who runs all these entities, both within government and without?

The CIA. They run things, their people are everywhere. Including elected pols, cabinet officeholders, and corporate media... as well as celebrities, etc.


As I say on occasion, I miss the pre-Obama Democrats who didn't reflexively trust the three-letter agencies.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 17, 2024 12:18 PM (FD5dr)

161 Everything they do is ultimately intended to reduce population. The aristocrats all were broken by Paul Ehrlich and still think his solutions need to be implemented. Bill Gates has said it out loud, but it's the logical endpoint of everything they're pushing.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 17, 2024 12:10 PM (FD5dr)

I would go so far as to say, whenever a "civilization" gets far enough away from religion, slaughtering people becomes not just allowed, but inevitable.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:18 PM (ERjZP)

162 >>The CIA. They run things, their people are everywhere. Including elected pols, cabinet officeholders, and corporate media... as well as celebrities, etc.

Oh I've been saying the CIA has been running our foreign policy and to a large extent enforcing who can and can't be president based on their support for their chosen policy for a very long time. The CIA was created for regime change and under Dulles they became more powerful than their host. It was Brennan who was the real mover behind the coup attempt on Trump not the FBI. Brennan created what he called a "fusion team" made up of CIA and FBI to filter foreign dirt to the FBI, the domestic unit.

But they needed another domestic organization to run their ops through and in this case it is CISA. CISA was the one using censorship to prevent "foreign interference in our elections" and they got to say what was foreign interference.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:19 PM (LkLld)

163 He's a puppet on a string. Biden is a puppet on a string. The Press Secretary is a puppet on a string. Blinken is a puppet on a string.

They all are. The puppet-master must be found and tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.


You're a kite flying in a hurricane, Mr. Bond.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 12:19 PM (CsUN+)

164 >>The amazing thing is that half of the country simply accepts this.

From my experience at work (in a sanctuary city), even the Lefties have realized what's being allowed to happen is not just unsustainable, but offensively unbalanced. Yes, even they are upset that everything has gotten ridiculously more expensive at the same time all our city/state/federal leaders are demanding we need more free money to throw at foreigners, the ones who've arrived at our doorstep and overseas (Ukraine, etc.). They've also had ENOUGH covid nonsense.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2024 12:19 PM (RXyKO)

165 How did Joe perform in East Palestine?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 12:19 PM (xcrUy)

166 The puppet-master must be found and tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.

Make Guillotines Great Again.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 17, 2024 12:20 PM (FD5dr)

167 It's an academic question of low importance. Brandon, the Blowjob Queen, Gavin, Whitmer, Trump. The Party can jam whoever they want in there. Or not. Who knows who they want this time, or don't? Kremlinology is for fun, not for real. In any event, whoever wedges his ass in that chair, the same people are still in charge. At the end of the day, the nominal President is probably pretty low on the Jarrett crew's agenda.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 12:20 PM (0FoWg)

168 55
' You can't win a national election with only black women.'

It would certainly put a strain on their cheat apparatus.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 17, 2024 12:21 PM (roH4R)

169 44 It will be Biden.
The campaign will be a joke.
The steal will be epic.
Then they will dare us...fuckin' dare us to do anything about it.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 17, 2024 12:12 PM (W/lyH)

yeah, my greatest worry, and also how desperate they are going to get as the hopelessness of their electoral situation sets in. I know quite a few serious people (not all at this site) who think the most likely outcome is the cancellation of all elections and the installation of a provisional government to keep power until the "emergency" is over.

and this backs in to their apparent desire to spark some level of nuclear confrontation with Putin.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:21 PM (q3gwH)

170 BTW, the interesting bit about the sterilization chemicals in oats thing? The amount started ramping up sharply in 2017. Can't imagine what happened in 2016 that would cause that kind of response.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 17, 2024 12:21 PM (FD5dr)

171
I saw link, but did not click that Newsom polls worse then Demented Joe. Not by a little, but a lot.

Jeez, the American public might just be paying a whole lot of attention this time around. Fool me once...

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 12:22 PM (nIvob)

172 RFK jr may be a nutty Leftie, but he's had Bill Gates' and Fauci's number for many years. He was speaking and writing about Gates' sketchy AF infertility-causing vaccine testing in Africa and polio vaccine testing in India. He was suspicious of that crew/anti-vaxx long before Covid. No way they would let him have any opportunity to speak or run for office, Kennedy name or not.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2024 12:13 PM (RXyKO)

It's one of those things, in my own head, I've gone from thinking "the anti-vaxxers are nuts," to thinking "hey, this Covid scam is using vaxxing to do we-still-don't-know-what," to listening to someone like RFK talking about the expansion of what is now required for "standard" vaxxing, and correlating it to the explosion of conditions like autism, and thinking "yeah, I don't know for sure, but I can believe it's possible."

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:23 PM (ERjZP)

173 Put me in coach!

Posted by: Marianne Williamson at February 17, 2024 12:23 PM (NBVIP)

174 I know quite a few serious people (not all at this site) who think the most likely outcome is the cancellation of all elections and the installation of a provisional government to keep power until the "emergency" is over.

That's consistent with their constant efforts to equate Trump with coups, Hitler, and the Reichstag, in the sense that whatever they tell you they fear is what they would like to do.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 12:24 PM (CsUN+)

175 In any event, whoever wedges his ass in that chair, the same people are still in charge. At the end of the day, the nominal President is probably pretty low on the Jarrett crew's agenda.

It'll be Kamala at first because there's no legal way around it. It'll also prevent them from needing to further stop the bleeding of the black electorate. Whoever her VP is will likely become President though.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 17, 2024 12:24 PM (FD5dr)

176 He's a puppet on a string. Biden is a puppet on a string. The Press Secretary is a puppet on a string. Blinken is a puppet on a string.

They all are. The puppet-master must be found and tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 12:16 PM (nIvob)

Yeah, people have noted Mayorga's ticks when speaking.

The ones who are sentient, in that admin, they know the shit coming out of their mouths is shit, but they gotta say it anyway, almost like hostages.

Except they're not hostages. They're willing participants.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:25 PM (ERjZP)

177 It's just a flesh wound.

Posted by: The black electorate at February 17, 2024 12:26 PM (NBVIP)

178 One of the reasons this country is so fucked up & chaotic is that the Triangle of Power & Hate is unbalanced. The Army plays an import role, but not enough to counterbalance the Party & State, and the State has been stronger than the Party for way too long. Normally, the Army would intervene to take the State down a peg at this point, but it lacks the power to do it at this stage of the game.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 12:26 PM (0FoWg)

179 If you haven't listened to the Tucker interview of Mike Benz yet here is a 15 minute segment which clearly explains how CISA became the enabler of domestic censorship and ultimately election rigging in 2020.

That's not to say that the CIA and other groups weren't working behind the scenes but CISA made all of their work possible.

http://tinyurl.com/5n6dt2tj

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:26 PM (LkLld)

180 Anyone got a Threadreader link for the Bronson story?

All X shows is 1/10 if you don't sign up. And I ain't signing up.

And Nitter has been cancelled.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 17, 2024 12:28 PM (/QIWP)

181 It's one of those things, in my own head, I've gone from thinking "the anti-vaxxers are nuts," to thinking "hey, this Covid scam is using vaxxing to do we-still-don't-know-what," to listening to someone like RFK talking about the expansion of what is now required for "standard" vaxxing, and correlating it to the explosion of conditions like autism, and thinking "yeah, I don't know for sure, but I can believe it's possible."
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:23 PM (ERjZP)

Given the corruption in nearly every other field of endeavor, it comes as no surprise that medicine has also become corrupted. The traditional vaccines did work, and were non-evil, but Big Pharma and Deep State have now corrupted them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2024 12:28 PM (tkR6S)

182 Actually, we don't have to imagine - Falun Gong assembled 10,000 demonstrators outside the Bejing district that housed the elite without the knowledge of the Chinese Communist Party in 1999 - the CCP completely freaked out at an anti-Party demonstration occurring without them knowing about it beforehand, and sentenced them all to long prison terms.
Posted by: Chuck Schumer, A-Hole!


The people that own and run "Epoch Times" are Chinese Falun Gong. The Chinese government/CCP is ALWAYS after them, in this country too. The periodically run stories in "Epoch Times" about it. And of course, the "mainstream" media can't be bothered with it.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 17, 2024 12:28 PM (tjZg/)

183 It's just a flesh wound.
Posted by: The black electorate


We know that Kamala is a big fan of Venn diagrams *rolls eyes*. The overlap between the angry black women who will be defending Fani and saying she's a victim of racism and those who will defend Kamala as a presidential choice is 100%.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 12:29 PM (CsUN+)

184 Even Julian Roepke, a pro-Ukranian journalist for BILD, has a problem with Ukraine's claimed Russian casualty figures:

Without proper ammunition along the entire front and while withdrawing from Avdiivka, the Ukrainian army killed 1210 Russian soldiers yesterday and wounded another 3630, destroying five entire BTG on a single day … according to the Ukrainian army.

Hush, Julian, you'll be put on the Ukrainian death list if you keep talking like that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:29 PM (YAtuc)

185 Merry Christmas!

Our Christmas was delayed because of Mrs. Wrecks' broken leg so we're having it today.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Delayed, but not wrecked... well done!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 17, 2024 12:29 PM (M8pNi)

186 Also, read Kanekoa's whole thread about the various groups outside of government CISA coordinated with. It's very good.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:30 PM (LkLld)

187
I live next to a farm. When you see the baler with a huge green tank of chemicals spraying gawd-only-knows-what onto the grain your desire for breakfast cereals disappears.

Eggs, bacon, mushrooms, spinach, cheese. Half a slice of toast. Mix and match.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 12:30 PM (nIvob)

188 But they needed another domestic organization to run their ops through and in this case it is CISA. CISA was the one using censorship to prevent "foreign interference in our elections" and they got to say what was foreign interference.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:19 PM (LkLld)

Right, but what I'm saying is, there are actual CIA agents everywhere. These kinds of things, like creating this "funny" little agency... they're ALL agents who belong to CIA.

Everyone. All of them.

And agents are everywhere, in damn near every influential entity in this country. Not just these agencies, not just NGOs, but also every major newspaper, teevee channel, police departments, Hollowood bigwigs... everywhere. Actual CIA agents.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:30 PM (ERjZP)

189 133
'then send in the Army with heavy weapons, to "restore peace".'

As an added bonus you won't have to worry in the future about the orcs letting themselves be inconveniently taken alive.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 17, 2024 12:30 PM (roH4R)

190 You guys got me…. I looked it up, per Wikipedia she’s 77. I knew she couldn’t be 47!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 17, 2024 11:52 AM (xT8gx)


Trump was #45
Brandon is #46
the next one will be #47

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 12:31 PM (D7oie)

191 The Chinese government/CCP is ALWAYS after them, in this country too.

Imagine the reaction if Russia threw a million Muslims into concentration camps.

When the Chinese do it, the world reaction is "meh".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:31 PM (YAtuc)

192 I would go so far as to say, whenever a "civilization" gets far enough away from religion, slaughtering people becomes not just allowed, but inevitable.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:18 PM (ERjZP)
-----------
Depends on the religion. The Aztecs were very religious.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at February 17, 2024 12:31 PM (0gvpA)

193 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2024 11:58 AM (tkR6S)

I watch a quilting channel on YouTube. The owner and her husband live in Alberta during the summer and Arizona in the winter. Don't know specifically where in each case though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 17, 2024 12:32 PM (nC+QA)

194 >>>Everything they do is ultimately intended to reduce population. The aristocrats all were broken by Paul Ehrlich and still think his solutions need to be implemented. Bill Gates has said it out loud, but it's the logical endpoint of everything they're pushing.
Posted by: Ian S.

OMG! We have to kill off 90% of the population to prevent a future war/famine that will kill off 90% of the population. Doing it now is the only way to ensure we stay on top!

The 'elite' are powerful imbred lunatics. Not unlike the history of royalty since forever.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 17, 2024 12:32 PM (cOq4q)

195 Kremlinology is for fun, not for real. In any event, whoever wedges his ass in that chair, the same people are still in charge. At the end of the day, the nominal President is probably pretty low on the Jarrett crew's agenda.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 12:20 PM (0FoWg)

Part of me believes they'll let Trump back in the chair, because it's fun for them to run their ops, with someone in there who's actually opposed to them.

Probably gets boring having quarter wits in the chair, or whores like Cummala or Nikki. Or another Bush.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:32 PM (ERjZP)

196 I saw link, but did not click that Newsom polls worse then Demented Joe. Not by a little, but a lot.

Jeez, the American public might just be paying a whole lot of attention this time around. Fool me once...
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 12:22 PM (nIvob)

Newsom is despised everywhere outside of California, including by East Coast Democrats. His pretty California face doesn't buy him any credit with black voters in Chicago, Atlanta, or NYC. and his disastrous debate may not have helped DeSantis much, but it exposed Newsom as an intellectual lightweight who can't even make a good case for any of his positions.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:33 PM (q3gwH)

197
Fauci never said...

1. Wear a mask
2. 6' apart
3. Vaccines will stop you from getting the virus
D. Keep the schools closed

Never never never.
Posted by: BurtTC


The 51 spy guys never said Russia hacked our election.
They said "it had the hallmarks" of hacing our election.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2024 12:33 PM (63Dwl)

198 He's not going to step down on his own.

And the press isn't going to make him.

Posted by: blaster at February 17, 2024 12:34 PM (IFNME)

199 Part of me believes they'll let Trump back in the chair, because it's fun for them to run their ops, with someone in there who's actually opposed to them.

They don't want "fun", they want absolute power.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:35 PM (YAtuc)

200 >>And agents are everywhere, in damn near every influential entity in this country. Not just these agencies, not just NGOs, but also every major newspaper, teevee channel, police departments, Hollowood bigwigs... everywhere. Actual CIA agents.

I used to do a lot of business overseas. One of my colleagues spent even more time in the Middle East than I did.

He was approached by the CIA to do work for them, particularly in gathering intel in Iran where he traveled frequently before they took hostages. He declined.

Hell, the CIA helped fund Google and a lot of other technology through their own private equity fund. As Benz noted in his clip their money flowed through CISA to the media and other NGOs. I agree, they are everywhere.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:35 PM (LkLld)

201 Given the corruption in nearly every other field of endeavor, it comes as no surprise that medicine has also become corrupted. The traditional vaccines did work, and were non-evil, but Big Pharma and Deep State have now corrupted them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2024 12:28 PM (tkR6S)

And that's part of Fauci's little fiefdom too. Or connected to it, or whatever.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:37 PM (ERjZP)

202 198

'He's not going to step down on his own.

And the press isn't going to make him.'

Guess it's my turn then.

Posted by: Guy with pillow in the shadow's of FJB's bedroom at February 17, 2024 12:37 PM (roH4R)

203 He's not going to step down on his own.

And the press isn't going to make him.

Posted by: blaster

After the primary season is over, and Joe Biden has all the delegates "locked up" (figuratively), then....he will have a stroke, and be incapacitated, and designate a replacement to run for him in the 2024 election. The Democrat Convention may fall in line and then endorse this, or....maybe something else.
I don't think Donald Trump will be alive come the 2024 Republican convention. This is going to be a wild, dark ride this year.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 17, 2024 12:38 PM (tjZg/)

204 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:33 PM (q3gwH)

His 'pretty California face' is starting to look more and more like the Joker's. Dude needs to stop with the surgeries. Of course, once you start you can't really stop or your face starts melting.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 17, 2024 12:38 PM (nC+QA)

205 Hush, Julian, you'll be put on the Ukrainian death list if you keep talking like that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:29 PM (YAtuc)

I'm under the impression, right now there are essentially NO Russian troops being killed in Ukraine.

Unless they get bad vodka, I suppose.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:39 PM (ERjZP)

206 165 How did Joe perform in East Palestine?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 12:19 PM (xcrUy)

---------

He opened with heartfelt memories of Dead Beau, forgot what he was supposed to say next, then he invited all the little girls in the audience to come on stage where he sniffed their hair and tweaked their nipples. At the end he fell down some stairs and mistook a Domino's Pizza delivery vehicle for the presidential limo.

Same old same old.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 17, 2024 12:39 PM (bo7UB)

207 >>> It may be confusing to watch the press for the next few months

Only if you believe them.

Posted by: fluffy at February 17, 2024 12:39 PM (86W+h)

208 welcome to the Hotel California…

Posted by: Eromero at February 17, 2024 12:40 PM (Wed3T)

209 Trump was #45
Brandon is #46
the next one will be #47
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 12:31 PM (D7oie)

Wait... Biden's 46?

He looks (and acts) a lot older.

Posted by: Here We Go Again at February 17, 2024 12:40 PM (ERjZP)

210 He's not going to step down on his own.

And the press isn't going to make him.

Posted by: blaster

The trick is to make it clear to Jill that bad things will happen to *her* if she doesn't take him home instantly.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 17, 2024 12:40 PM (nC+QA)

211 I'm looking for a narrative change in the ongoing *biden corruption saga. If that narrative changes substantially to "*biden's corrupt" from the hemming and hawing about him now, he's toast.

The narrative right now is about his dementia. That's not going to work against him as there're too many people who have sympathy for that affliction. The media is being prompted, given a script to follow and they're pulling punches. Attacking an addled old man isn't in good taste and all that.

But corruption... that's something only people like Trump engage in. So, of course that's got to be bad.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 17, 2024 12:40 PM (Q4IgG)

212 178 One of the reasons this country is so fucked up & chaotic is that the Triangle of Power & Hate is unbalanced. The Army plays an import role, but not enough to counterbalance the Party & State, and the State has been stronger than the Party for way too long. Normally, the Army would intervene to take the State down a peg at this point, but it lacks the power to do it at this stage of the game.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 12:26 PM (0FoWg)

I like that you pointed that out. It reminds me of something I was reading elsewhere that Xi had become the most powerful Chinese Emperor in centuries, if not since the legendary First Emperor, when he was able to successfully be named Commander in Chief of the Army, Leader of the Communist Party, and official Head of the Chinese State, and the bureaucracy. Xi controls everything, and everyone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:41 PM (q3gwH)

213 Biden is the perfect president. He does as he is told signs what they tell him to and tries to stay out of trouble with them. He mouths the platitudes they feed him.
He runs nothing.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 17, 2024 11:40 AM (MeG8a)

This. I wish people would truly understand this. Even some here don't really fathom what's been going on the last 3+ years.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 17, 2024 12:41 PM (BdMk6)

214 Given the corruption in nearly every other field of endeavor, it comes as no surprise that medicine has also become corrupted.

That rabbit hole certainly goes deep, at least back to Louis Pasteur, and certainly John D Rockefeller in the US.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2024 12:42 PM (ZpQic)

215
OMG! We have to kill off 90% of the population to prevent a future war/famine that will kill off 90% of the population.

Something to watch for is information on 'shedding' of the covid vaccine. This is something they know occurs with poultry.

Do humans shed vaccine, too? If one studiously avoided the mRNA vaccine could they now be subjected to it by walking into a crowd of people?

I'm not slipping on the tin foil hat yet, just waiting for more data. The WHO predicting some incredible increase in future cancer deaths has me wondering. ''Vaccine associated enhanced disease'' was the reason 20 years of research in finding a vaccine for the covid type outbreak in 2002 had to be abandoned, year after year.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 12:42 PM (nIvob)

216 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:41 PM (q3gwH)

Hadn't realized Xi had managed to reach God-King status.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 17, 2024 12:42 PM (nC+QA)

217 I don't think they really want Trump under any circumstances. But it's still fine. He's not a (R)enfield, but he's still an (R), so he can be made the scapegoat for Party failures, whether he passively accepts it according to the script notes, or not.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 12:42 PM (0FoWg)

218 The 51 spy guys never said Russia hacked our election.
They said "it had the hallmarks" of hacing our election.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2024 12:33 PM (63Dwl)

Nobody told media (including social) to cover up the Hunter laptop story.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:43 PM (ERjZP)

219 I cannot see any up side to keeping thousands of those face-tatted Orcs in jail for ever and ever. They should just be killing them out of hand. Only way out I see is to arrange for a massive prison revolt, then send in the Army with heavy weapons, to "restore peace".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2024 12:06 PM (tkR6S)


If you start shooting them en mass you wind up worst than Hitler and your country gets slapped with every sanction up to and including the USMC camping on your national mall. He has few options in any government that is even pretending to be law based and populist. It is not a matter of "what needs to be done" it is a matter of "what can we get away with doing what needs to be done"
There is no body of law to deal with so large a subset of a population that doesn't sound like "let them stave on reservations"

My prediction is a prison riot, seizure of hostages, attempt to escape, followed up with a brutal repression of the prison and execution of ringleaders and anyone they can prove raised a hand, and then rinse and repeat as needed.
I don't think he can afford to be weak here, not and survive with a functioning country,

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 12:43 PM (D7oie)

220 It may be confusing to watch the press for the next few months

Was anybody confused by Tokyo Rose? It's the same thing.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2024 12:44 PM (ZpQic)

221 Part of me believes they'll let Trump back in the chair, because it's fun for them to run their ops, with someone in there who's actually opposed to them.
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They don't want "fun", they want absolute power.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:35 PM (YAtuc)

Sure, and "absolute power" means you aren't threatened by keeping your enemies around.

Truly, does anyone genuinely believe electing Trump is going to put a stop to all this?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:45 PM (ERjZP)

222 I looked at a video that was promoted as "Footage from the scene of the KC Super Bowl parade shooting". The person recording the video was apparently running away in panic amid the chaos and the video showed mostly pavement and people's shoes as everyone scrambled away.

Literally "footage"...!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2024 12:45 PM (991eG)

223 >>He's not going to step down on his own.

>>And the press isn't going to make him.

The media is nothing more than an extension of the deep state. They are stenographers.

Their job isn't to force Joe out, it's to build the narrative that it's time for him to go so that if and when it happens the public agrees with the decision.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:46 PM (LkLld)

224 Lord HawHaw.

Posted by: Eromero at February 17, 2024 12:47 PM (Wed3T)

225 Truly, does anyone genuinely believe electing Trump is going to put a stop to all this?
Posted by: BurtTC


Yes. It's already happening.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2024 12:47 PM (ZpQic)

226 Wonderful thread. K.T. Always so much to think about. Thanks.

Bates has been around for quite sometime. (See National Press Foundation, Andrew Bate. In part, "He has gone from interning for Congressman Brad Miller and working on the presidential campaigns of Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden to joining President Biden’s White House press staff.")

IMHO the press briefing went as planned by Bates, FLOTUS, Chris Coons, & several others tapped to run his 2024 campaign. (FLOTUS is doing an almost identical act & speech for donor solicitations.) I was surprised Fox's Peter Doocy of the WH Press Pool was briefly queried afterwards & seemed quite careful not to categorize Biden as either angry or dottering during.

2/7/24, WH released "Notice on the Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to the Situation in and in Relation to Burma" and, "Message to the Congress on the Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to the Widespread Humanitarian Crisis in Afghanistan and the Potential for a Deepening Economic Collapse in Afghanistan" signed by Biden. (Originated by Executive Orders)
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If they cared, Sinwar would have been brought to justice.

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun and bear, they only have to outrun us - for now at February 17, 2024 12:47 PM (GshMh)

227 > Biden is the perfect president. He does as he is told signs what they tell him to and tries to stay out of trouble with them. He mouths the platitudes they feed him.
He runs nothing.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
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I think that's been true for quite a while. Even under Trump. The difference was when Trump directed the administrative / deep state to do something they disagreed with, they simply ignored him or put up a public fight.

In some respects Trump was highly ineffective in office because of this. Not all, but some.

*biden or Harris.... same policies just a different face.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 17, 2024 12:47 PM (Q4IgG)

228 I'm under the impression, right now there are essentially NO Russian troops being killed in Ukraine.

This is a replay of World War One - I think that the Russians are taking more casualties than the Ukrainians, but it's not 2:1, let alone the 13:1 that Senator Tillis is claiming.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:48 PM (YAtuc)

229 Hell, the CIA helped fund Google and a lot of other technology through their own private equity fund. As Benz noted in his clip their money flowed through CISA to the media and other NGOs. I agree, they are everywhere.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2024 12:35 PM (LkLld)

I've got the Benz interview running in the background now, I'm half listening again.

He's at the part where he mentions the Aspen Institute. Tucker stops him, incredulous, saying "Walter Isaksson is a friend of mine."

I think Benz is sorta coy at that point, maybe doesn't want to offend Tucker, but yeah, these people are everywhere. Recruited just like that... and why wouldn't a red-blooded true patriot want to help their government fight those foreign enemies?

Except.... they don't tell you, it's not just foreign.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:48 PM (ERjZP)

230 KT, always a winner. You make Saturday morning.


Kurt Russell speaks on terrorists and gun control.
http://tinyurl.com/sd9zfub6

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 12:50 PM (s+bMu)

231 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:41 PM (q3gwH)

Yeah that situation isn't healthy for anyone in China except Xi. Stalin was a similar example, at least after the Army demurred and deferred during Barbarossa.

But I'm not the person who formulated the analysis, and neither have the Chinese, or Western intellectuals. I first heard Yuri Bezmenov describe the dynamic, and I eventually realized it's how all "properly" functioning totalitarian regimes operate.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 12:50 PM (0FoWg)

232 You guys got me…. I looked it up, per Wikipedia she’s 77. I knew she couldn’t be 47!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 17, 2024 11:52 AM (xT8gx)

Trump was #45
Brandon is #46
the next one will be #47
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 12:31 PM (D7oie)

ISWYDT…. I’m a little slow this morning… or maybe most mornings!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 17, 2024 12:51 PM (gqhqp)

233 The document sent shockwaves through D.C. and the media, with prominent outlets covering Biden's cognitive abilities in a more skeptical light than ever before.
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MORE skeptical? MORE?

Minimally skeptical would be a radical change.

One thing we need to do is have every single conservative, or even just Republican* always bring up at least one example of media shilling, every time they talk to the press. If everyone did it, they couldn't ignore them all.

Of course, that's wishful thinking. They don't have the guts to do that, or the skills. And certainly not the desire.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2024 12:53 PM (1bNHn)

234 I cannot see any up side to keeping thousands of those face-tatted Orcs in jail for ever and ever. They should just be killing them out of hand. Only way out I see is to arrange for a massive prison revolt, then send in the Army with heavy weapons, to "restore peace".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2024 12:06 PM (tkR6S)

I would too, but it's an interesting problem, and Bukele may have plans. These men are in those gangs because they are physically strong, but mentally weak and easily turned. Someone very clever who knows how to lead might have use for a large number of men like that. Not in his own country, but nearby.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:53 PM (q3gwH)

235 This. I wish people would truly understand this. Even some here don't really fathom what's been going on the last 3+ years.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 17, 2024 12:41 PM (BdMk6)

I admit I get autistic about this. Every time someone says "Biden wants..." "Biden says..." etc, all those things people say that suggest it's Joe who is making these things happen, and I KNOW some people just say "Biden" as a shortcut, but it gets under my skin!

I almost can't leave it without yelling BIDEN'S NOT IN CHARGE OF ANYTHING!!!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:53 PM (ERjZP)

236 Look at East Germany. The Party and Army were necessarily atrophied there, but they had an ultra competent State commanded by Mielke that made them even less relevant. No balance. I think it's one of the key reasons it was a major failure point for the Bloc.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2024 12:54 PM (0FoWg)

237 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at February 17, 2024 12:55 PM (1Yy3c)

238 With every passing day, the federal government proves why it is no longer needed.

Once the money becomes worthless, they will go bye bye.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 17, 2024 12:55 PM (R/m4+)

239 Hur declined to charge Biden for his mishandling of classified documents, in part because his "poor memory" would discourage a jury from convicting him.

--

I'm still sort of in awe of this.

Aren't mentally incompetent people charged all the time for things like rape and other violent acts, and then it's up to the jury to decide the punishment or the level of disability?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do you remember when our sun used to be yellow? at February 17, 2024 12:55 PM (0+Kup)

240 Truly, does anyone genuinely believe electing Trump is going to put a stop to all this?
Posted by: BurtTC

Yes. It's already happening.
Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2024 12:47 PM (ZpQic)

Well, I don't want to disabuse anyone of that belief.

Maybe he'll do things good. Maybe.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:56 PM (ERjZP)

241 229 Hell, the CIA helped fund Google ...their money flowed through CISA to the media and other NGOs. I agree, they are everywhere.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Except... and why wouldn't a red-blooded true patriot want to help their government fight those foreign enemies? Except.... they don't tell you, it's not just foreign.
Posted by: BurtTC
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That was the scariest commentary I've witnessed.

Visualize a round table with Weinstein, Benz, Mel Brooks, Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson. (& Steve Allen if he were alive)

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 12:57 PM (s+bMu)

242 "Remove extra spaces."

No thanks.

1. all extra spaces do is stretch the margin further.
2. Tinyurl is your friend.

Posted by: Outside of Life at February 17, 2024 12:58 PM (89Sog)

243 from the transcript:

"The hostage negotiation, look -I'm of the view, as you know, that the conduct of the response in Gaza - in the Gaza Strip has been over the top."

Yeah, no.

Posted by: m at February 17, 2024 12:58 PM (1BWJp)

244 But he's a Decent, Compassionate and Gentlemanly leader who simply cannot stop thinking about the Presidency and Democracy.

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At times, it all reminds me of the (movie) Chicago/The Press Conference Rag.

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun and bear, they only have to outrun us - for now at February 17, 2024 12:59 PM (GshMh)

245 I'm under the impression, right now there are essentially NO Russian troops being killed in Ukraine.
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This is a replay of World War One - I think that the Russians are taking more casualties than the Ukrainians, but it's not 2:1, let alone the 13:1 that Senator Tillis is claiming.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 17, 2024 12:48 PM (YAtuc)

I don't understand why anyone would believe that. Russia isn't attacking. They're settled in. Waiting.

Who do you think is killing them? The 45 year old Ukraine soldiers?

WWI isn't the template here. It's closer to the Waco Branch Dividian standoff at this point. The Russians can go in and crush them anytime they want. For now though, they're just sitting there, waiting.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:00 PM (ERjZP)

246
His very first day in office there's a video of Biden signing some EO and he asks, "What am I signing?" and some voice off camera says, "Just sign it."

Puppet on a string. He signed away 10,000 jobs that day with a stroke of the pen on one single document and he signed plenty. Because someone wanted an energy pipeline stopped.

I don't think the CIA GAF about pipelines, I think that's a Soros and RFK Jr and big DMC donor with a railroad sorta thing.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 01:01 PM (nIvob)

247 It's too nice a day to be doing this.

It's just all so tiresome.


Have fun storming the castle! Endeavor to continue to keep persevering in your efforts to try to strive to move forward.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2024 01:01 PM (991eG)

248 You almost have to laugh. The best reason Hur could come up with not charging Biden is that he is senile. That's the best he could do.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:02 PM (ibTVg)

249 I would too, but it's an interesting problem, and Bukele may have plans. These men are in those gangs because they are physically strong, but mentally weak and easily turned. Someone very clever who knows how to lead might have use for a large number of men like that. Not in his own country, but nearby.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 12:53 PM (q3gwH)


thank you, I hadn't considered that angle. Combining that with the supposed Venezuelan brain trust he has backing him, that makes me ponder on possible goals.

I would hate to see what would happen if some sort of conscriptee army wound up in Venezuela when Maduro decides to invade Guyana

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 01:03 PM (D7oie)

250 6: actually, we need to spend LESS money on education. Especially how little we get for that money.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 01:03 PM (Bn2JH)

251 So Ukraine murders an American journalist after torturing him and I'm supposed to give them money because Russia killed a Russian citizen?

Can someone explain this to me in a way that is not insane?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:03 PM (ibTVg)

252 "Why do you Yanks need all those guns?"

Response: That's how we threw out all you limey assholes out. Twice. Oh, and saved your useless butts from having to speak German for the rest of your existence.

You're welcome

Posted by: thyatcrazyjersey guy now with twice the crazy at February 17, 2024 01:03 PM (iODuv)

253 The one that got me was learning that Gloria Steinem was a CIA agent and 2nd wave feminism was a federal op to stir the pot and damage the nation.

She liberated women to work
60+ hour weeks for no real financial advantage to the family.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do you remember when our sun used to be yellow? at February 17, 2024 01:03 PM (0+Kup)

254 Late to the party, but Paul sounds exactly like a Brezhnev era apparatchik giving the party line (h/t, Lord Hannan).

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 01:04 PM (Bn2JH)

255 It's too nice a day to be doing this.

It's just all so tiresome.

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I just came in from five hours in the yard to eat some lunch. This was a welcome break.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do you remember when our sun used to be yellow? at February 17, 2024 01:05 PM (0+Kup)

256 I think the Russians have achieved their goals. They reset the border, put NATO and the US on notice no more hanky panky in moving East, neutralized the gangsters in Ukraine from doing anything except play defense and got some up to date battlefield experience out of the whole deal.

They don't want to rule the Ukrainians they just wanted to neutralize them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 17, 2024 01:05 PM (R/m4+)

257 WWI isn't the template here. It's closer to the Waco Branch Dividian standoff at this point. The Russians can go in and crush them anytime they want. For now though, they're just sitting there, waiting.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:00 PM (ERjZP)

Russia has it's dick in Ukraine's face. It's only a matter of time that they demand it to be sucked.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 17, 2024 01:05 PM (BdMk6)

258 You almost have to laugh. The best reason Hur could come up with not charging Biden is that he is senile. That's the best he could do.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:02 PM (ibTVg)

Why, it's almost as if "the law" is run in a manner where the outcome is already pre-determined, and they just have to find the excuse for the verdict somewhere along the way.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:06 PM (ERjZP)

259 >>>I would too, but it's an interesting problem, and Bukele may have plans. These men are in those gangs because they are physically strong, but mentally weak and easily turned. Someone very clever who knows how to lead might have use for a large number of men like that. Not in his own country, but nearby.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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Sounds like fun. What country?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 01:06 PM (s+bMu)

260 21 One thing people have to remember about Dirty Joe is that he has always been a dim bulb and a low life prick. Sonofabitch, after cheating his way through law school should have spent his days in a downtown office upstairs from an appliance store, fucking up wills and real estate closings.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 17, 2024 11:26 AM (0EOe9)

And yet ....

Posted by: m at February 17, 2024 01:06 PM (1BWJp)

261 WWI isn't the template here. It's closer to the Waco Branch Dividian standoff at this point. The Russians can go in and crush them anytime they want. For now though, they're just sitting there, waiting.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:00 PM (ERjZP)

Not given Russia’s shoddy logistics.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 01:06 PM (Bn2JH)

262 Can someone explain this to me in a way that is not insane?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:03 PM (ibTVg)


Putin is the most evil person ever and Satan unleashed on the world would be less dangerous than the Russians winning against the Ukrainians.

--Average Liberal Wine-Mom

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 01:06 PM (D7oie)

263 She liberated women to work
60+ hour weeks for no real financial advantage to the family.


I was watching a right leaning youtuber, one of these people that is worried that in the "inevitable" reaction to current leftist insanity we might go to far the other way. Anyway he remarked in passing about the great benefits that women entering the workforce in mass in the 60s had financially for everyone.

And...the data says the exact opposite.

We went from one primary wage earner providing enough for a family of 4 or more to needing two wage earners and side hustles to provide for a "family" of two.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:07 PM (ibTVg)

264 Not given Russia’s shoddy logistics.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 01:06 PM (Bn2JH)


and Grant was a drunkard?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 01:08 PM (D7oie)

265 I think the Russians have achieved their goals. They reset the border, put NATO and the US on notice no more hanky panky in moving East, neutralized the gangsters in Ukraine from doing anything except play defense and got some up to date battlefield experience out of the whole deal.

They don't want to rule the Ukrainians they just wanted to neutralize them.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 17, 2024 01:05 PM (R/m4+)

One of those things I think we can say Pootin was clearly lying about, is when he said he wasn't finished yet, because he wants to de-nazify Ukraine.

I don't believe he gives a shit whether the nazzies stick around the Ukraine he's going to leave for Ukraine to govern.

He has what he wants. He's just waiting for the U.S. to come to the negotiating table, which our current regime says they won't do. So, fine. More dead Ukraines. And Pootin doesn't care about that either.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:10 PM (ERjZP)

266 And...the data says the exact opposite.

We went from one primary wage earner providing enough for a family of 4 or more to needing two wage earners and side hustles to provide for a "family" of two.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:07 PM (ibTVg)


Now add to that the fact that inflation and illegal immigration has destroyed the lower-skill customer service based jobs that used to be available so there are actually fewer jobs to be had.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 01:10 PM (D7oie)

267 Apparently Steinem received a "Chester Bowles Student Fellowship" to spy, sorry, "study" in India.

No one had received one before or since.

Nice work if you can get it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do you remember when our sun used to be yellow? at February 17, 2024 01:12 PM (0+Kup)

268 He has what he wants. He's just waiting for the U.S. to come to the negotiating table, which our current regime says they won't do. So, fine. More dead Ukraines. And Pootin doesn't care about that either.

I suspect more dead Ukes is a goal of the Biden junta anyway.

Get those Christian normie conscripts killed and you free up more sex workers and make it easier to rule the country as a Euro-leftist managed democracy...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:12 PM (ibTVg)

269 Sounds like fun. What country?
Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 01:06 PM (s+bMu)

of course this is just idle speculation on my part, but if I was playing Risk I'd notice that all of Central America consists of just El Salvador and 6 other small, weak countries. Lebensraum, baybee!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2024 01:12 PM (q3gwH)

270 Not given Russia’s shoddy logistics.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 01:06 PM (Bn2JH)

I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

This isn't the 20th century, and if we are going to look at history, Russia tends to get what it wants in war. One way or another.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:13 PM (ERjZP)

271 >>>I would hate to see what would happen if some sort of conscriptee army wound up in Venezuela when Maduro decides to invade Guyana

Posted by: Kindltot
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I don't know which leaders are friends with each other but what if the conscripts were in Guyana instead of Venezuela?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 01:14 PM (s+bMu)

272
We went from one primary wage earner providing enough for a family of 4 or more to needing two wage earners and side hustles to provide for a "family" of two.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:07 PM


I lived my youth not far from an early post WWII housing development, Levitown. Those homes were all of maybe 1,200 square foot in size. Yes, one income could support a family and that size home I suppose. My son and daughter both own homes three times that size.

It is what it is and beyond that I have no comment.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 01:14 PM (nIvob)

273 Apparently Steinem received a "Chester Bowles Student Fellowship" to spy, sorry, "study" in India.

No one had received one before or since.

Nice work if you can get it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do you remember when our sun used to be yellow? at February 17, 2024 01:12 PM (0+Kup)

She also somehow became a Playboy bunny, spying from within the Hefner operation.

With those thighs, even when she was younger, she had no business being a bunny.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:15 PM (ERjZP)

274 I suspect more dead Ukes is a goal of the Biden junta anyway.

Get those Christian normie conscripts killed and you free up more sex workers and make it easier to rule the country as a Euro-leftist managed democracy...
Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:12 PM (ibTVg)

What most respectable people won't say out loud, is the extent to which our digging in there has to do with hiding the chem/bio operations we had/have going on.

It's easier to accept that all our politicians are simply on the take.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:17 PM (ERjZP)

275 Sounds like fun. What country?
Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 01:06 PM (s+bMu)

Whoever controls the gateways to the oceans, controls much of our material world.

Panama.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 17, 2024 01:17 PM (BdMk6)

276 The narrative about Ukraine is changing. There are more tweets and blurbs about Russian advances and horrific Ukrainian losses. I'm sure it's all propaganda from one side or the other (including our own propaganda outlets and the junta.) But the fact is, Ukraine isn't running away with a "win." Even with all the ammo, the intel and whatnot we've provided, the Ukrainian military just wasn't up to the challenge.

The graft and corruption is partially to blame. It's also why our political class has been so adamant about funding the war. Of the hundreds of billions of dollars we've thrown at Ukraine billions upon billions have returned, freshly laundered, right into the politician's pockets.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 17, 2024 01:18 PM (Q4IgG)

277 >>>She liberated women to work
60+ hour weeks for no real financial advantage to the family.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -
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And finally, no family.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 01:18 PM (s+bMu)

278
I lived my youth not far from an early post WWII housing development, Levitown. Those homes were all of maybe 1,200 square foot in size.

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Dang, I bet that was a pretty big house for the time. It definitely would be in the South.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do you remember when our sun used to be yellow? at February 17, 2024 01:19 PM (0+Kup)

279
Good morning, all. It's fun reading about race and gender and desperation in the Democrat presidential race. I saw them shove aside a black woman for an old white guy in 2020. I'm quite sure they'll do it again in 2024 if they can. Newsom is salivating for the office.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 17, 2024 01:20 PM (lCaJd)

280 I lived my youth not far from an early post WWII housing development, Levitown. Those homes were all of maybe 1,200 square foot in size. Yes, one income could support a family and that size home I suppose. My son and daughter both own homes three times that size.

It is what it is and beyond that I have no comment.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 01:14 PM (nIvob)

The house I grew up in outside of Perth Amboy NJ was 750 square feet. Dad was the sole wage earner until 1956, when mom went out to work so we could afford a car. The message here? People bought and lived in houses that could afford at that time. And, they were happy to have their "own little home". Many were first generation Americans (like my parents) who lived through the depression and thrust into WW2. Being able to actually own their own home was a dream their parents could not realize.

Posted by: thyatcrazyjersey guy now with twice the crazy at February 17, 2024 01:21 PM (iODuv)

281 The graft and corruption is partially to blame.

Early on during the war a plan crashed in Ukraine full of American weapons. Specifically...leaving.

The official line was those were weapons the US was giving to...Croatia?...IIRC.

Sure. Sure that's totally it. We are routing weapons through Ukraine to Croatia.

Make me wonder what percentage of the aid to Ukraine was

1) Sold on the black market by the Ukes
2) Sold on the black market by Americans
3) Funnelled to black ops

Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:22 PM (ibTVg)

282 We went from one primary wage earner providing enough for a family of 4 or more to needing two wage earners and side hustles to provide for a "family" of two.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2024 01:07 PM (ibTVg)

A tired talking point. Americans still can rely on one wage earner…but it requires budgeting. Americans simply don’t want to do that.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 01:23 PM (Bn2JH)

283 We could easily have one breadwinner families right now if people were will to forfeit baubles as they were times past.
Times past the family was preeminent.
The commies convinced women that the most supreme role in the land was oppression and simultaneously got them to give their children over to socialization centers where they would not be raised in a nuclear family.
Inversion

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 01:24 PM (s+bMu)

284 Supposedly the situation on the ground in the Russia-Ukraine war is that both sides have run out of ammo and working vehicles, so they're settling in for a siege while pumping their respective sponsors for more money. Slavs are boss at siege warfare so this can go on indefinitely.

Posted by: CppThis at February 17, 2024 01:25 PM (PZvjL)

285 I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

This isn't the 20th century, and if we are going to look at history, Russia tends to get what it wants in war. One way or another.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:13 PM (ERjZP

You don’t know what Russia having shoddy logistics means?

Put simply, if they can’t adequately support its troops in the field, they aren’t going to get far. I contend Russia isn’t “waiting” - their logistics suck.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 01:27 PM (Bn2JH)

286 A tired talking point. Americans still can rely on one wage earner…but it requires budgeting. Americans simply don’t want to do that.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 01:23 PM (Bn2JH)


If you save you are losing value to inflation. If you borrow you have all that wealth and goods, and you work to pay it off just like if you were saving for it.
Most people want to be virtuous in a way that doesn't mean they lose 10-15% of their savings in a year and maybe the EPA will outlaw what they want by the time they can afford it.

I feel "Americans have lost their virtue and must be punished by their actions" is such a Puritan attitude.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2024 01:30 PM (D7oie)

287
I lived my youth not far from an early post WWII housing development, Levitown. Those homes were all of maybe 1,200 square foot in size.

Dang, I bet that was a pretty big house for the time. It definitely would be in the South.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do you remember when our sun used to be yellow? at February 17, 2024 01:19 PM


The home I came home from the hospital to was maybe 1,200 square foot - my Dad did a lot of the construction. One bathroom. We moved to a maybe a 1,500 sq foot house just to get that second bathroom and a garage. My Mom was stay-at-home.

Now the average house is something greater then 2,400 sq feet and the couple both have jobs.

Truth be told I have a home some multiple over that but it was a decision to use that 4% average appreciation in real estate as a way of banking money. It worked for us, both with good jobs, but just barely.

Think 'kids' nowadays can find homes that small? In my area they go for $400,000 for barely 1,000 sq foot. Takes about $100,000 in family income to cover the mortgage.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 01:31 PM (nIvob)

288 Russia is not the Soviet. Russian's manufacturing capacity exceeds ours. They have ample materiel and manpower. Russia has a very crud but effective way of training its military. The Russian men who survive Ukraine will be skilled and battle hardened Officers and enlisted men. All the young Ukrainians are dead.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 01:32 PM (s+bMu)

289 You don’t know what Russia having shoddy logistics means?

Put simply, if they can’t adequately support its troops in the field, they aren’t going to get far. I contend Russia isn’t “waiting” - their logistics suck.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 01:27 PM (Bn2JH)

I know what it means, I just didn't know what you meant by it.

Apparently you don't either.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:32 PM (c9hvv)

290 DeepState started this war between them and Russia.
They own it, they should pay for it.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 01:33 PM (s+bMu)

291 Think 'kids' nowadays can find homes that small? In my area they go for $400,000 for barely 1,000 sq foot. Takes about $100,000 in family income to cover the mortgage.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 17, 2024 01:31 PM (nIvob)

Perhaps they need to move where adequate housing is much more affordable.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 17, 2024 01:35 PM (BdMk6)

292 Nood KT GT.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 17, 2024 01:52 PM (Z8YL4)

293 Mobile again, phone was disconnected and didn't charge last night

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2024 01:53 PM (fwDg9)

294 Russia is not the Soviet. Russian's manufacturing capacity exceeds ours. They have ample materiel and manpower. Russia has a very crud but effective way of training its military. The Russian men who survive Ukraine will be skilled and battle hardened Officers and enlisted men. All the young Ukrainians are dead.
Posted by: Braenyard

There is just so much wrong and incorrect about what you said, I don't know where to start.
Putin is very much WEF. A lot of his "plans" for Russia coincide with WEF.
I very much DOUBT that Russia's manufacturing capacity exceeds the US. They only have about 160 million people. The US population is almost twice that (at least).
Battle hardened or battle weary? They are using old T-62 tanks because many of the T-72M and T80M tanks got kilt. They are making a lot of artillery shells, that's for sure. And small arms ammo.
I don't hate Russia, and do not love or care for Ukraine. But this "war" is a contrived event (quite real for the men who are fighting and dying), to create more world chaos.
Victoria Nuland is descended from "Trotskyites" and feels it is her BIRTHRIGHT to be part of the ruling clique of Russia. Can you believe this horsehit?

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 17, 2024 01:58 PM (tjZg/)

295 Can you believe this horsehit?

Posted by: A face in the crowd.....
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No

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 02:24 PM (s+bMu)

296 183 the angry black women who will be defending Fani and saying she's a victim of racism
Posted by: Archimedes at February 17, 2024 12:29 PM (CsUN+)

No one. Surely no one is saying this.

Posted by: m at February 17, 2024 02:32 PM (1BWJp)

297 The Race Card is the Leftists best card hand, they have nothing else to play.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2024 02:35 PM (fwDg9)

298 I was just looking at a pizza place website that had LGBTQ + friendly notification. Why? Is there any restaurant that wouldn't sell food to anyone regardless of sexual orientation?
Would a sane rainbow person not just get a pizza?
It's like putting up a dog friendly sign up.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2024 03:02 PM (xcrUy)

299 I'm under the impression, right now there are essentially NO Russian troops being killed in Ukraine.

Unless they get bad vodka, I suppose.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 12:39 PM (ERjZP)

Ohhhhkaaay, Burt.

Posted by: Ernie at February 17, 2024 03:04 PM (iODuv)

300 >>>>45 I think the deep state has already decided on replacing *biden and/or Harris. It's apparent that for now, it's *biden they want to step down or be removed. I think they can get away with one or the other being replaced for "reasons," but not both. Their problem is not who, but HOW.

If Harris was to move up I can see her getting a shot at first woman (black) president to satisfy the left's desire for that particular trophy, but I'm not sure she'll be able to fulfill the term before being axed.

I'd put money on Harris stepping up, but who gets her VP slot might just be the one the movers and shakers really want in the Oval Office.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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A parallel take: They move Joe out soon and Kamala becomes president.
She will serve out Joe's term but in the meantime TPTB will select this year's candidate and it won't be Kamala. However, President Harris will leave office as the first female president of the US and the first black female president of US with all the perquisites, benefits and all due respect given to a past president.
This will satisfy her ambitions.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 03:08 PM (s+bMu)

301 When I was young, a 3/1 was a good house. You had a bedroom for the parents, and a bedroom for boys and one for girls. An extra half bath was great if you could get it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 17, 2024 03:13 PM (aD39U)

302 "The Russian men who survive Ukraine will be skilled and battle hardened Officers and enlisted men. All the young Ukrainians are dead."

I did that!

Posted by: Joe Bribem at February 17, 2024 03:22 PM (QB+5g)

303 1. The single most significant foreign investment in Saint Lucia is U.S.-based Buckeye Partners Limited’s large petroleum storage and trans-shipment terminal.
_www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-saint-lucia/

2. Buckeye Partners, formerly known as the Buckeye Pipeline Company, is a distributor of petroleum in the East and Midwest areas of the United States. A direct descendant of Standard Oil,
...In 2019, IFM Investors acquired Buckeye Partners for $10.3 billion in an all-cash deal,
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckeye_Partners

3. IFM Investors is a provider of investment services, headquartered in Melbourne, Australia.

As of 27 April 2023, IFM Investors invests on behalf of more than 640 institutions worldwide, including pension, superannuation and sovereign wealth funds, universities, insurers, endowment funds and foundations.
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFM_Investors

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 03:48 PM (s+bMu)

304 Apparently you don't either.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2024 01:32 PM (c9hvv)

Don’t blame me for your inability to read or to understand what logistics is.

What part of Russia Has Piss Poor Logistics do you not understand?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 17, 2024 04:11 PM (Bn2JH)

305 >>>What part of Russia Has Piss Poor Logistics do you not understand?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
_____________

I understand that this type of language does not move a conversation forward.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 17, 2024 04:22 PM (s+bMu)

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