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Supreme Court Appears Poised to Reject Challenge to Trump's Candidacy, and Might Even Reject It... Unanimously


Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley

The argument is now over. The disqualification advocates may have expected a cold reception, but this was perfectly glacial. Notably, some of the toughest and most skeptical questions came from the left of the Court.

One threshold question is this: When the insurrection clause speaks of "officers" being disqualified from office, does it even mean the president, whose qualifications are spelled out in the Constitution, with no mention of insurrection being a bar?

Or does it just mean the people the Executive appoints to fill federal posts?

Even Katanji Brown Jackson seems to think "officers" means "appointed officials," not constitutional officials like the president:


Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley

...Most notable were the questions from Justice Jackson who seemed to push the idea that the president may not have been intended to be one of those covered by the provision.

Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley


...They are now turning to the first question on what officers are covered. Justice Jackson is leading off...

...Jackson is probing the list argument that the president is not listed expressly. She is asking why Trump is not pushing that argument harder.

Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people.

Even Roberts is antagonistic. The 14th Amendment, he says, was written to reduce the power of the states (establishing that federal rights were the rights of all citizens, whether or not states wanted to grant them, etc.).

Why then, he asked, would this same Amendment grant states the power to veto federal presidential candidates?

Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley

...Chief Justice Roberts asked a deadly question of why the 14th Amendment (which is designed to limit the power of states) would be used to enhance this power of the states. He suggested that Murray's arguments are "ahistorical."


One of the main arguments from the left is that the "Insurrection Clause" is "self-executing." That is, the clause says that no "insurrectionist" can qualify for office, and no additional conviction, hearing, tribunal, etc., is necessary to enforce this claim.


And therefore, they argue, people can bring stupid lawsuits and state courts can decide who is and who is not an insurrectionist.

Whereas those arguing it's not "self-executing" say: There needs to be a law against "insurrection," and you need to be convicted against violating that law to be disqualified.

Usually, Congress enables constitutional commands with statutes. Constitutions are, of course, not "laws." They are vague, when laws demand precision. And Congress usually passes laws to explain exactly how a constitutional clause will be implemented.

This is just bizarre: There actually is and long has been a federal law against insurrection. Further, there is a law which says anyone convicted of "Insurrection" is disqualified from holding federal office.

Kavanaugh wants to know why, oh why, should that not be considered the controlling legal authority for disqualifications based on "insurrection."


Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:34 PM




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1 yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 08, 2024 01:35 PM (R4t5M)

2 First, Really? Ok first among equals.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 08, 2024 01:35 PM (i9ffA)

3 The argument is now over. The disqualification advocates may have expected a cold reception, but this was perfectly glacial. Notably, some of the toughest and most skeptical questions came from the left of the Court.


They don't want to have to revisit this.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:35 PM (0P0Mx)

4 ooo first-ish

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 08, 2024 01:35 PM (B1FKF)

5 hey now

Posted by: doug at February 08, 2024 01:36 PM (8/lc0)

6 Nood'd

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 08, 2024 01:36 PM (R4t5M)

7 The reason to think it could be 9-0; Ketanji isn't going to want to make her fellow libs look bad by going against them, looks better if they're all together.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 08, 2024 01:37 PM (i9ffA)

8
ESPONJA!!!1!!11!!

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 08, 2024 01:37 PM (bEb2S)

9 Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people.

==

all the fkng time! even on cases like this.

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 01:37 PM (V13WU)

10 He should have used the Chewbacca defense. Big time error on his part.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:37 PM (4p0Xq)

11 Rookie!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 01:37 PM (7nRFT)

12 Here is the clip in which Jason Murray (Colorado) argues that if the Supreme Court doesn't remove Donald Trump from the ballot, Democrats will have to try to stop Congress from certifying his electors when he wins.

So, they'll engage in an "insurrection" by their definition.


Can we start shooting them then?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:38 PM (0P0Mx)

13 CO didn't send their brightest. Probably stoned.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 08, 2024 01:38 PM (Q4IgG)

14 This is why I say lawyers shouldn't be allowed to be judges.

They should have thrown guam on these people for even bringing this case in the first place.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 01:38 PM (9ud8w)

15 IF YOU TAKE THE SHOT YOU HAVE IMMUNITY !

Posted by: Jumanji Brown Michael Jackson at February 08, 2024 01:38 PM (NtVYv)

16 3 The argument is now over. The disqualification advocates may have expected a cold reception, but this was perfectly glacial. Notably, some of the toughest and most skeptical questions came from the left of the Court.

They don't want to have to revisit this.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:35 PM (0P0Mx)

Yes. The real question is how the Left could have convinced itself that there was even a ghost of a chance that this could be considered Constitutional, rather than just a will-to-power play.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 08, 2024 01:38 PM (i9ffA)

17 Is Rich Baris related to Chuck?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (4p0Xq)

18 Boobs

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (xcxpd)

19 Unanimously ? that should send a message....

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (V13WU)

20 sorry willowed but important-ish:

on the transcript of the interview - it's fake! sorry Dr Malone just posted

I think the transcripts out there are all fake. Tucker is saying please wait to watch the interview tonite

Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (AcWfM)

21 i'll repeat myself: trump will be elected to a second term, within 48 hours riots will break our all over the country, women will flood tiktok with videos of themselves screaming, biden and his handlers will try to declare marsha law. with chocolate chips and you know.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (B1FKF)

22 The Raging Kagan.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (krQz2)

23 CO didn't send their brightest. Probably stoned.

TBF, it's a ridiculous case, so who would want to have to argue it?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (CsUN+)

24 Did I misunderstand Kagan? Is she arguing against Colorado?

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (oNgxs)

25 Whoa! Even the legislative side of SCOTUS are acting like they are actually judges!

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (zSyrn)

26 They don't want to have to revisit this.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:35 PM (0P0Mx)

oh yeah, self preservation

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (V13WU)

27 The insurrection...what a show..

Posted by: Mel Brooks at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (4p0Xq)

28 Maybe Jackson is making the argument (about prezzie not being included) to protect the real traitor and insurrectionist --- Joe Biden.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (Cus5s)

29
Let's hope that Turley is not Jim-Cramering himself here.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (krQz2)

30 ...Jackson is probing the list argument that the president is not listed expressly. She is asking why Trump is not pushing that argument harder.

Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people.


I'm not sure I'd use the very least competent Justice as a fulcrum to argue Trump's hiring policies.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (/HDaX)

31 >>>Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people.
---------------------

Snit.

Trump hires the best he can. The better one's are scared off by
Group 65 and you know it.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (9IvoX)

32 i'll repeat myself: trump will be elected to a second term, within 48 hours riots will break our all over the country, women will flood tiktok with videos of themselves screaming, biden and his handlers will try to declare marsha law. with chocolate chips and you know.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (B1FKF)
---
So...time to stock up on popcorn?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (7fElN)

33 Boobs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards


That's not what "Nood. Kagan." means. Fortunately.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (9yWhg)

34 The left got themselves into a little rhetorical trouble with these "throw Trump off the ballot" cases.

If Trump is a racist loser everyone hates it doesn't matter.

The only reason it does matter is if Trump is likely to win the election.

And if Trump is likely to win the election it means most people don't believe Trump was leading the peaceful J6 protestors in some sort of insurrection...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (ibTVg)

35 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (T4tVD)

36 biden and his handlers will try to declare marsha law

= =

Sure, Jan.

Posted by: Marsha at February 08, 2024 01:41 PM (AD14M)

37 TBF, it's a ridiculous case, so who would want to have to argue it?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM

Yea this douchenozzle probably got the short straw. Or he's so disliked around the office, they thought they'd play to his ego as a joke on him.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:41 PM (4p0Xq)

38 biden and his handlers will try to declare marsha law. with chocolate chips and you know.

I'm worried that if Trump wins Biden's people will enter the Uke war either by getting American troops killed intentionally or trying to assassinate Putin directly.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2024 01:42 PM (ibTVg)

39 I really detest the "I guess my question is" and "I'm wondering" constructions. It makes you sound like a HS student. "Journalists" also do it.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:42 PM (CsUN+)

40 "Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people."

---

And your evidence for that is Justice Diversity Hire is questioning his team's filing.

Not that the case isn't open and shut, just that she thinks they should have emphasized something they didn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 01:42 PM (9ud8w)

41 21 i'll repeat myself: trump will be elected to a second term, within 48 hours riots will break our all over the country, women will flood tiktok with videos of themselves screaming, biden and his handlers will try to declare marsha law. with chocolate chips and you know.

Posted by: gnats local 678
----------------------------

Go for it.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 08, 2024 01:42 PM (9IvoX)

42 Yea this douchenozzle probably got the short straw. Or he's so disliked around the office, they thought they'd play to his ego as a joke on him.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:41 PM (4p0Xq)
---
Maybe it's just me, but he does seem to have a punchable face...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 08, 2024 01:42 PM (7fElN)

43 31 >>>Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people.


lol he hired a friend of mine!

so ..ouch

good lawyer btw

it is HARD to get lawyers, for PDJT. scary stuff. the rest of the family uses a different name now for safety

Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at February 08, 2024 01:42 PM (AcWfM)

44 Looking at this Murray guy, and based on who the CO governor is, does Colorado bar straight men from public office?

Posted by: Wally at February 08, 2024 01:42 PM (hqVaF)

45 Jason Murray looks seems to be a dandy. That said, it's striking that leftist justices are actually asking decent questions.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 08, 2024 01:42 PM (d2bW3)

46 Does the SCOTUS not understand that Trump said "Pussy"? Did the CO attorney even bring that up?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 08, 2024 01:42 PM (GHIaS)

47 Whereas those arguing it's not "self-executing" say: There needs to be a law against "insurrection," and you need to be convicted against violating that law to be disqualified.
---
You realize that the entire Civil War is the "insurrection" that the 14th refers to....

Yeah!! There ought to be a LAW against states rebelling?!

This is why we have Democrats.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 01:43 PM (krQz2)

48 >>>24 Did I misunderstand Kagan? Is she arguing against Colorado?

she is arguing against Colorado, yes

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:43 PM (KRtlO)

49 Where's the DU dump of unemployed boy-hungry bald dudes with ponytails railing about the Supreme Court being packed with conservatives and denying Justice to the people?

Should drop any time now....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 01:43 PM (9UlRk)

50 16 3 The argument is now over. The disqualification advocates may have expected a cold reception, but this was perfectly glacial. Notably, some of the toughest and most skeptical questions came from the left of the Court.

They don't want to have to revisit this.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:35 PM (0P0Mx)

Yes. The real question is how the Left could have convinced itself that there was even a ghost of a chance that this could be considered Constitutional, rather than just a will-to-power play.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 08, 2024 01:38 PM (i9ffA)

Someone posted this in the last thread. Best quote about today's hearing?
"Murray is finally done. That was rough. He took more arrows than Saint Sebastian and they were coming from both the left and the right of the court."

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 08, 2024 01:43 PM (N39Ws)

51 " biden and his handlers will try to declare marsha law"

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 08, 2024 01:43 PM (w6EFb)

52 So...time to stock up on popcorn?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (7fElN)

And ammo.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2024 01:44 PM (gSZYf)

53 21 i'll repeat myself: trump will be elected to a second term, within 48 hours riots will break our all over the country,
Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (B1FKF)

Which is why, regrettably, the election will have to be suspended with the sitting government in place, until a peaceful mail-in election is held.

Posted by: Auspex at February 08, 2024 01:44 PM (j4U/Z)

54 I learned a new term today: ultra vires.


adjective: ultra vires

acting or done beyond one's legal power or authority.
"at one point they argue that the legislation is ultras vires"

adverb: ultra vires

beyond one's legal power or authority.
"he will take action against any body acting ultra vires"

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:44 PM (CsUN+)

55 i'll repeat myself: trump will be elected to a second term, within 48 hours riots will break our all over the country, women will flood tiktok with videos of themselves screaming, biden and his handlers will try to declare marsha law. with chocolate chips and you know.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM (B1FKF)
---
So...time to stock up on popcorn?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM

The grief pron will be EPIC! You thought sky screaming NOOOOOOOO was a great meme. That will seem like nothing. Stock up on pudding.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:44 PM (4p0Xq)

56 Unanimously?
Doubtful.

Posted by: wth at February 08, 2024 01:44 PM (v0R5T)

57 and when the riots start, people on the left like at msnbc will blame it on maga provocateurs who need to be immediately arrested, starting with trump.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 08, 2024 01:44 PM (B1FKF)

58 Where's the DU dump of unemployed boy-hungry bald dudes with ponytails railing about the Supreme Court being packed with conservatives and denying Justice to the people?


Sometimes I'll take a look at the leftist twittidiots Ace occasionally posts.

And if I do they all love them some effeminate Korean boy bands. Both the female lefties and the male.

Note...the male leftists don't like Korean girl bands. They like Korean boy bands...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2024 01:44 PM (ibTVg)

59 The insurrection...what a show..
Posted by: Mel Brooks



MERCHANDISING!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (0P0Mx)

60 52 So...time to stock up on popcorn?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (7fElN)

And ammo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2024 01:44 PM (gSZYf)


Ammo is always kosher.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (x0n13)

61 13 CO didn't send their brightest. Probably stoned.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 08, 2024 01:38 PM (Q4IgG)

Probably because their "brightest" would be in total agreement with the other side.

Posted by: tankdemon at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (vhwKy)

62 i'll repeat myself: trump will be elected to a second term, within 48 hours riots will break our all over the country, women will flood tiktok with videos of themselves screaming, biden and his handlers will try to declare marsha law. with chocolate chips and you know.
Posted by: gnats local 678

Martial > Marsha.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (lZVy/)

63 Where's the DU dump of unemployed boy-hungry bald dudes with ponytails railing about the Supreme Court being packed with conservatives and denying Justice to the people?

Should drop any time now....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 01:43 PM

Like their distended lady penis'

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (4p0Xq)

64 Hm. That Jason Murray looks like a Jason Murray Showers to me.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (Angsy)

65 This will end up being a major embarrassment for CO..any chance they will remove that governor of theirs over this ?? a little chance ? no ? too bad...

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (V13WU)

66 2 First, Really? Ok first among equals.
-----------
Where MacGregor comments is first of the comments.

Posted by: zombie rob roy macgregor at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (2yu8s)

67 Judging solely by the pic, Jason Murray is not unacquainted with the taste of penis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (tkR6S)

68 Turley is the most rose-tinted of commentators.

Track the careers of the people who started this nonsense. They will get a juicy federal appointment while Trump is in his second term. (Not to be gloomy or anything.)

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 08, 2024 01:45 PM (cf/0E)

69 37 TBF, it's a ridiculous case, so who would want to have to argue it?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM

Yea this douchenozzle probably got the short straw. Or he's so disliked around the office, they thought they'd play to his ego as a joke on him.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:41 PM (4p0Xq)

This was Murray's first case before SCOTUS. That should tell you right there that this is about the process of hurting Trump. Not at all about what is right, Constitutional or just.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (N39Ws)

70 Looking at this Murray guy, and based on who the CO governor is, does Colorado bar straight men from public office?

You can be a straight guy. You just have to still suck c*ck.

Posted by: The CO bar at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (ibTVg)

71 When you've lost Jumanji....

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (4p0Xq)

72 >>>And your evidence for that is Justice Diversity Hire is questioning his team's filing.

My evidence for this is Trump constantly fucking up and when he fucks up, his supporters saying it's all the fault of the people he hires.

Even YOU GUYS scream "It's not trump, it's his traitorous staffers!" every fuck-up. Now you're taking that back?

Why not just buy some orange robes and just declare that you're in a fucking cult?

Jesus Christ all Mighty, I am so sick of this. If you snowflakes cannot stand Trump being criticized, then go to Conservative Tree House and stay in the fucking Trump Bubble. Those of us outside the bubble are getting very sick of your SJW sensitivities.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (KRtlO)

73 When Katanji Brown Jackson seems to gett it, you know beyond a shadow of a doubt this whole thing is ridiculous.

Hiya, JT!

Posted by: Piper at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (ZdaMQ)

74 And if Trump is likely to win the election it means most people don't believe Trump was leading the peaceful J6 protestors in some sort of insurrection...
Posted by: 18-1

There are a shit-ton of independent and Muh Sacred Honor 'conservatives' who would see any conviction as sufficient enough to throw a snit-fit and not vote for him. They are desperate enough hang their gilded hats on anything including a misdemeanor.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (IG4Id)

75 The point is not to win, i have to imagine.

The point is just to get the lightning rod planted so that the smooth brains can not follow anything except "Supreme Court something something Good For Trump yadda yadda here's your pallet of bricks"

Probably.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (9UlRk)

76 Let's hope that Turley is not Jim-Cramering himself here.
Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (krQz2)


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Posted by: Jim Cramer - Investment Pro and Media Personality at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (v0R5T)

77 Yea this douchenozzle probably got the short straw. Or he's so disliked around the office, they thought they'd play to his ego as a joke on him.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:41 PM (4p0Xq)
---
Maybe it's just me, but he does seem to have a punchable face...

He looks like he's getting ready to argue a case in front of his college debating society. He's the sacrificial lamb, all right.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (CsUN+)

78 What does this say about that retired federal judge who said

"I am a Republican. I am the most republiciany republican who ever republicaned. And, moreover, I am a retired federal appellate judge who was appointed by a republican and ruled in a most republican manner. And I say, Trump lead an insurrection and must be banned from the ballot"

Only to have none other than DEI KBJ say the argument is stupid.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (GHIaS)

79 I wouldn’t trust that Murray guy just by lookin’ at him.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (sttDH)

80

I think we see why CNN was told in Commie fashion to saturate Muh INSURECSHUN 24/7.

Progs plan Repubs react.

Posted by: Dr Huge Largemeat at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (et1vG)

81
I just accepted a $5 bet that the SC goes 9-0.

I say not.

Posted by: Auspex at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (j4U/Z)

82 One threshold question is this: When the insurrection clause speaks of "officers" being disqualified from office, does it even mean the president, whose qualifications are spelled out in the Constitution, with no mention of insurrection being a bar?
++++
People with more experience and knowledge please check and correct me, but to me this sounds like SCOTUS is trying to thread the needle.

If they reject it, they will do so on this basis described here - "what is an officer, and is the President an 'officer' according to the agreed definition" rather than rejecting it because there was no insurrection. By doing so, they define a heretofore irrelevant piece of Constitutional minutiae while declining to address the root premise, leaving the "insurrection" field and argument open for use against others or in different ways.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (yjAVs)

83 Senate passed aid for Ukraine bill with help of 17 R Senators. The usual treasonous suspects helped Joe Biden.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (ImwvP)

84 Alternate sub-headline: Elena Kagan's Balls Are Bigger Than John Roberts'

Posted by: pookysgirl, helpful editor at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (dtlDP)

85 Ammo is always kosher.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton



"News to us."
-- The Ammonites

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (9yWhg)

86 Considering the threats to anyone who works for Trump I'd say the talent pool, not to mention sanity threshold, is limited.

But nah it's always a good time for an cheap shot against the guy you couldn't grab even a small percentage of votes from.

Maybe if your loser candidate had won, the people who work for him would be considered a threat too, but alas we'll never know.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (oNgxs)

87 So, when there's an actual insurrection that puts the next leftist in office, if that person's not charged and convicted of insurrection it's all cool... right?

They're not "officially" an insurrectionist.

Seems.... like something the left would consider.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (Q4IgG)

88 Ammo is always kosher.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton



Not when I use the ammo wiped in lard.
Sorry. Not rich enough to have ammo for muzzies and separate ammo for everyone else.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (0P0Mx)

89

The 3 lefties can't vote to throw it out. The Lefties have to have a reason to declare the court illegitimate and/or argue why they need to pack it.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (x0n13)

90 when we need to excuse a trump failure, we're allowed to say "Trump's staffing decisions aren't great.'

But when that need passes, we're back to "Everything Trump does is perfect and anyone who says differently is a heretic and infidel."

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (KRtlO)

91 you know that dems and leftists will go for anything if they think they might win and there's no downside if they lose

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (B1FKF)

92 "The real question is how the Left could have convinced itself that there was even a ghost of a chance that this could be considered Constitutional, rather than just a will-to-power play.
Posted by: Tom Servo"


Because they would rather avoid having to assassinate Trump if possible, as much as they would enjoy it. .

Posted by: Ripley at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (JojsZ)

93 Martial > Marsha.

Marshall > Martial > Marsha.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (zSyrn)

94 Kavanaugh wants to know why, oh why, should that not be considered the controlling legal authority for disqualifications based on "insurrection."
++++
'Cause it's inconvenient?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (yjAVs)

95 So...time to stock up on popcorn?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (7fElN)

The brass-encased flavor.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (tkR6S)

96 Our elected representation is decided by 'Snit Fitters"

Posted by: International Brotherhood of Hobos and Associated Hermits at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (dzZCL)

97 Not allowing low level mandarins to declare that a Presidential candidate is an insurrectionist and therefore banned from the ballot is a threat to Our Deomcracy!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (KynHm)

98 When you've lost Jumanji....
Posted by: Minnfidel
.......


pull out Ladybug's Garden Memory Game

Posted by: wth at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (v0R5T)

99 85 Ammo is always kosher.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

"News to us."
-- The Ammonites
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (9yWhg)

"Pfft."

- - The Trilobites

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (x0n13)

100 ...Jackson is probing the list argument that the president is not listed expressly. She is asking why Trump is not pushing that argument harder.

Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people.
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Right!! Meanwhile that is literally the only point of contention anyone seems to have with Mitchell's presentation of his case.

But NeverTrump is going to NeverTrump, I guess.

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (OeYsY)

101 Ace still can't get through a post on Trump without his inner Bill Mitchell making an appearance. Primary PTSD...LOL. Although even Bill Mitchell, the most f-ing reta*ded of the DeSantis supporters came out in support of Trump (after swearing he never would and would quit "X", etc.).

Posted by: Kitty litter Larry at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (xaNfJ)

102 >>>I wouldn’t trust that Murray guy just by lookin’ at him.
Posted by: Common Tater


His ice cream truck is awesome.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (d2bW3)

103 Jason Murphy: The Faggoty Face of Fascism

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (os8zY)

104 I think the SC typically issues opinions in late June/early July. Has there been any announcement that the Court intends to rule before then?

Posted by: Frasier Crane at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (bNf8H)

105 BREAKING: Best Supreme Court Quote Just Now By Justice Kagan: "The question that you have to confront is why a single state should decide who gets to be President of the United States."
++++
It's a fair question because as we know, it takes a couple of states to select the president - so long as they all spring a leak at the same time!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (yjAVs)

106 Round Table with Bret Weinstein, Alex Jones, Mel Brooks and Tucker Carlson

Posted by: Braenyard at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (9IvoX)

107
What is it that people cannot see corner cases or edge cases. Laws can't cover everything.

And even if we can consider the insurrection clause in the 14th sufficient law, does that mean a dustup at the Capitol applies as an "insurrection" to the extent that the Dems are trying to make it one?

The *real* thing is that the Democrats do not want to make their case while Trump has the Benefit of a Reasonable Doubt.

That's what's really going on in these civic end-runs.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 01:50 PM (krQz2)

108 Jesus Christ all Mighty, I am so sick of this. If you snowflakes cannot stand Trump being criticized, then go to Conservative Tree House and stay in the fucking Trump Bubble. Those of us outside the bubble are getting very sick of your SJW sensitivities.

I really, really hope Trump learned how to judge people in the political sphere in the last few years or found someone loyal who can. His business instincts did not serve him well as President...

I suspect that's because in business you know what people can get for their skills so you know what a fair offer is, and people will rarely do something to tarnish their reputation for a short term gain.

But in politics your skills don't connect very well with your income and the Deep State has the whole treasury to bribe people with anyway. And all those leftist NGOs that the government funds see it as a positive if you betrayed some conservative anyway...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2024 01:50 PM (ibTVg)

109 It's a Taxurrection !

Posted by: Joan Robrets at February 08, 2024 01:50 PM (NtVYv)

110 you guys are in truuuhhh-bul

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 01:50 PM (geLO8)

111 Those of us outside the bubble are getting very sick of your SJW sensitivities.
Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (KRtlO)

You NEVER miss an opportunity to trash the guy, even when it's not warranted.

I'd be more inclined to listen to your arguments, if you'd be more reasonable about this. But you won't do that.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 01:50 PM (9ud8w)

112 >>>But NeverTrump is going to NeverTrump, I guess.

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (OeYsY)
101 Ace still can't get through a post on Trump without his inner Bill Mitchell making an appearance.

Stupid mouthbreathing cultists gonna cult.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:50 PM (KRtlO)

113 If they reject it, they will do so on this basis described here - "what is an officer, and is the President an 'officer' according to the agreed definition" rather than rejecting it because there was no insurrection.
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Uh, no. First of all, that *might* be the case for one of the far left justices concurring "in part" with the unanimous decision, but it seems pretty clear a large majority of this court are prepared to hammer the shit out of ever imaginable aspect of this shit sandwich legal theory.

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 01:50 PM (OeYsY)

114 But when that need passes, we're back to "Everything Trump does is perfect and anyone who says differently is a heretic and infidel."

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (KRtlO)

Have the people who signed up to work for Trump been harassed and threatened beyond all reason or nah bro

Trump's an idiot and he's old but he's still the best shot we have, which indicts everyone else, including Governor Greatness.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 01:51 PM (oNgxs)

115
Breaking News: Sour grapes are sour.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 08, 2024 01:51 PM (nIvob)

116 "I am a Republican. I am the most republiciany republican who ever republicaned. And, moreover, I am a retired federal appellate judge who was appointed by a republican and ruled in a most republican manner. And I say, Trump lead an insurrection and must be banned from the ballot"


He says what he is paid to say. Sacred honor comes cheap in DC...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2024 01:51 PM (ibTVg)

117 I dunno if it's just a case of Trump hiring incompetents; I mean, the left has gone after every lawyer that helped Trump in attempts to get them disbarred in the states they practice in. So the field of lawyers willing to help Trump is pretty small these days; they have to be willing to put their law licenses on the line and be willing to be inundated with death threats.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 01:51 PM (ynpvh)

118 "Murray is finally done. That was rough. He took more arrows than Saint Sebastian and they were coming from both the left and the right of the court."

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed


He took more arrows than Agincourt.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:51 PM (0P0Mx)

119 These Soviet show trials are as tiresome as they are treasonous.
Uniparty must be entirely destroyed. Stat.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at February 08, 2024 01:51 PM (gxokI)

120 Even though the Lefties on the court may be asking "tough questions," that may just be a bit of a smoke screen.

I don't think it's uncommon to ask tough questions even when one is in agreement, if only to elicit a desired response (which may or may not have happened here).

At the end of the day, I would not be surprised to see a 6-3 or even 5-4 ruling on this.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 08, 2024 01:51 PM (7fElN)

121 >>>But when that need passes, we're back to "Everything Trump does is perfect and anyone who says differently is a heretic and infidel."

Posted by: ace

I worry DeSantis may never get the presidency, and I still think he would be a great POTUS.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (d2bW3)

122 Actually I'm a Transformer that changes from a VW Bus to a "personal massager".

Posted by: Ultra Vires at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (AD14M)

123 There is a law against insurrection Congress passed, enabled by A14 section 5, and Trump hasn't even been *charged* with it anywhere.

The whole CO thing was an exercise in begging the question. "Assume an insurrectionist" and so on.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (f6YJh)

124 I'm starting to think ace is not totally enamored of Trump

I'll keep reading...

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (geLO8)

125
But when that need passes, we're back to "Everything Trump does is perfect and anyone who says differently is a heretic and infidel."

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (KRtlO)
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How about just try not to oversell valid points about Trump's shortcomings?

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (krQz2)

126 The grief pron will be EPIC! You thought sky screaming NOOOOOOOO was a great meme. That will seem like nothing. Stock up on pudding.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:44 PM (4p0Xq)

I fear that come November we're all going to be severely disappointed.

Posted by: InZona at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (ODQhN)

127 >>>Have the people who signed up to work for Trump been harassed and threatened beyond all reason or nah bro

if his staff picks are all perfect you are forbidden from using the usual excuse of "Trump was poorly served by his staffers" ever again, and must accept that it's just Trump's fault.

Okay? Fair trade? Or nah?

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (KRtlO)

128 81
I just accepted a $5 bet that the SC goes 9-0.

I say not.
Posted by: Auspex at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (j4U/Z)

Yes, don't underestimate Sonia's ability to fuck things up.

Posted by: To paraphrase Bark-Bark at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (UMHqX)

129 i wouldn't be surprised if at least one of the sup ct lefties agrees that colorado was wrong but still say trump is guilty of something

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (B1FKF)

130 I simply don't understand SCOTUS! Colorado's arguments all sounded great to everyone at my book club! Someone has to get to the bottom of what happened today! Something fishy is going on!

Posted by: Ann I. Diot, Mansfield, MA, BA in Sociology (1979) at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (qUkBO)

131 But NeverTrump is going to NeverTrump, I guess.
Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (OeYsY)


did you ace's comment about orange robes ? no ? you should

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (V13WU)

132 I love how everyone, even SCOTUS justices get to pretend that the Constitution and it's attendant amendments are a MacGuffen that was just dropped off by space aliens who then bounced, to Regula 5 to get hammered on Romulan Ale.

Ersatz SCOTUS Justice: ** Looks to the Sky ** What does it mean? What does it mean?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (rc3Z7)

133 "No Reasonable Justice would...."

Pffffbthbthbth.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (9UlRk)

134 88 Ammo is always kosher.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton



Not when I use the ammo wiped in lard.
Sorry. Not rich enough to have ammo for muzzies and separate ammo for everyone else.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (0P0Mx)
_______
Isn't that how the Indian Mutiny started?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (1bNHn)

135 Stupid mouthbreathing cultists gonna cult.
Posted by: ace

Ace, maybe you should stop doing Trump posts. It doesn't seem like it's very good for you.

Just sayin.'

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (9yWhg)

136 Sigh

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (R4t5M)

137 He looks like he's getting ready to argue a case in front of his college debating society. He's the sacrificial lamb, all right.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM

Eric Strattford in Animal House. We're not going to sit here and listen to you bad mouth the United States of America!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (4p0Xq)

138 >The whole CO thing was an exercise in begging the question. "Assume an insurrectionist" and so on.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer
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well, I think it was a toe in the water, to see if it would fly

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (geLO8)

139 118 "Murray is finally done. That was rough. He took more arrows than Saint Sebastian and they were coming from both the left and the right of the court."

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed


He took more arrows than Agincourt.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:51 PM (0P0Mx)

Longbows AND Crossbows
instead of
Long Bows vs Crossbows.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

140 There is a law against insurrection Congress passed, enabled by A14 section 5, and Trump hasn't even been *charged* with it anywhere.

The whole CO thing was an exercise in begging the question. "Assume an insurrectionist" and so on.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (f6YJh)
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Probably why the Democrats are playing shrugsies with the idea that "maybe there should be an explicit law against it".

It probably has definitions that the Dems looked at and said "No, we can't make that stick".

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 01:54 PM (krQz2)

141 Ace isn't a NT.

He doesn't like some stuff about Trump. But he isn't going to go bang cabin boys on the SS Kristol with Judge Luttig either.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2024 01:54 PM (ibTVg)

142 Stupid mouthbreathing cultists gonna cult.
Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
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Yup, I'm in a cult because I'm not a jackass. That tracks, totally

This case is a fucking DISASTER of epic proportions that is getting hammered like Fanni Willis, but because the case being made didn't check every box for the SCOTUS affirmative action hire... its because Trump hires idiots.

Yup, that's the ticket.

You prepared to actually attack Jonathon Mitchell as nothing but an "incompetent Trump hire"

Did that become the case before or after he was Solicitor General for the State of Texas ???

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 01:54 PM (OeYsY)

143 When are the justices supposed to deliver zee decision?

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 01:54 PM (V13WU)

144 I don't remember criticism of Governor Whassisname being taken in big beautiful stride but then maybe I missed that day.

Cult my ass.

You don't like it when DeDopey gets cut down and I've seen people here in tears over it. Why doea a "side" act like the other side is the only one who defends their guy?

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 01:54 PM (oNgxs)

145 Stratton

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 01:54 PM (geLO8)

146 Reading comprehension among those on the left is questionable, at best. The "self-executing" argument ignores the plain text, specifically Section 5, which grants Congress the power to enforce the provisions of the article/amendment through the passage of laws.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at February 08, 2024 01:54 PM (KM/q4)

147 Why not just buy some orange robes and just declare that you're in a fucking cult?

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:46 PM (KRtlO)

*timidly raises hand*

Um, orange is not my color. Also, I don't want to be in a cult.

Posted by: you do NOT want to see pookysgirl in orange at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (dtlDP)

148 >>>I dunno if it's just a case of Trump hiring incompetents; I mean, the left has gone after every lawyer that helped Trump in attempts to get them disbarred in the states they practice in.

guys, it was a throwaway line, making reference to a FACT that even Trump's most fervent supporters routinely say when Trump fails: He's not great at picking people.

I'm not going to go through the next ten months having every fucking word picked to death by angry Trump Robots.

If this is your plan, then I'm telling you my plan: My plan is to fucking ban your ass. I'm just not going through ten months of this bullshit, I'm not. You can either accept that sometimes, some people may not share your belief that Trump is perfect and beyond all criticism or even just throwaway snark, or your are cordially invited to Self-Deport.

I work here. I have to be here. YOU DO NOT.

If you have better places to be, please seek opportunities elsewhere.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)

149 So the field of lawyers willing to help Trump is pretty small these days; they have to be willing to put their law licenses on the line and be willing to be inundated with death threats.

You'd think that a lot of the best, well-seasoned, but older lawyers who are ready to retire would take Trump's case because it's a chance to make history.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (CsUN+)

150 9-0 against Trump. Maybe 8-1 if Thomas is paying attention.

Mark it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (9UlRk)

151 114 But when that need passes, we're back to "Everything Trump does is perfect and anyone who says differently is a heretic and infidel."

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:48 PM (KRtlO)
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Are you really that bored?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (9IvoX)

152 The whole CO thing was an exercise in begging the question. "Assume an insurrectionist" and so on.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer
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Court is in the real world--at least courts outside of DC.

Democrats are only good with the inner world. They named it an insurrection and now they're like "We called it! No backsies!"

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (krQz2)

153 >>>Have the people who signed up to work for Trump been harassed and threatened beyond all reason or nah bro

if his staff picks are all perfect you are forbidden from using the usual excuse of "Trump was poorly served by his staffers" ever again, and must accept that it's just Trump's fault.

Okay? Fair trade? Or nah?
Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (KRtlO)
___________________

Number of known cross-dressing weirdos appointed by Trump?

Zero.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (YqDXo)

154 This whole goddam thing is a farce. Show me where Trump once encouraged an “insurrection”; questioning an obviously dodgy election-like Democrats have done since 2000-is not encouraging shit. And show me any previous “insurrection” where none of the people so hell bent on staging a coup had guns.

Does Roberts give a single damn about the future of this country? I know the left wing justices don’t, but doesn’t he realize what kind of fascist shit the dems are pulling?

Posted by: UGAdawg at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (tRd71)

155 I have a friend who is involved in some of the appellate cases with regard to January 6th, and he is aware of significant pressure exerted on attorneys not to get involved with anything pro-Trump.

I am no fan of Trump, but he is getting hosed by this underhanded plot to deny him and his supporters competent legal representation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (gSZYf)

156 Um, orange is not my color. Also, I don't want to be in a cult.

We have cookies and lots of lube!

Posted by: Your local young Democrat club/cult at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (ibTVg)

157 Leftists after the SC sides with Trump "pack the Court, pack the Court, pack the Court"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (EeR8D)

158 Longbows AND Crossbows
instead of
Long Bows vs Crossbows.
Posted by: jim

That'd be arrows and quarrel, wouldn't it?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (7nRFT)

159


MITCHELL!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (63Dwl)

160 Trump has been wrong about a lot of things. Bud Light for example. Covid shutdowns for a much more cromulent answer. That all being said, he is the nominee, and it's going to be him, or Grandpa Poopie Pants, so.. Trump it is. No sense beating each other up over it.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (k6uu5)

161 I want Trump to win.

But I also want the guy who saddled us with Chris Wray at FBI to pay a price.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (xhfG9)

162 Since I am not a Constitutional scholar, I'm going to defer to the other people on the court.

Posted by: KJB just TKBing at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (17s+e)

163 Wish had time to figure this out. Nothing makes my eye glaze over than reading laws

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (fwDg9)

164 Yeah, I'm kinda sick of the Trump straw men. You need a crew served weapon to knock them down they're so numerous. It would actually be refreshing to hear someone admit Trump has flaws like the rest of us and any candidate, rather than rushing on every time with some excuse for what's he's done.

Trump is shitty at picking people. That's demonstrably true. So is the fact that his behavior and his lack of unity turn off a good part of the voting public he needs to win. Get over it. Those are just facts, only a cultist would deny.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (dhhKu)

165 You'd think that a lot of the best, well-seasoned, but older lawyers who are ready to retire would take Trump's case because it's a chance to make history.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (CsUN+)
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Maybe those that have been around DC know what DC is capable of.

I mean they have gone after his lawyers.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (krQz2)

166 8-1. One from the short bus contingent will do it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (R4t5M)

167 134 88 Ammo is always kosher.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Not when I use the ammo wiped in lard.
Sorry. Not rich enough to have ammo for muzzies and separate ammo for everyone else.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (0P0Mx)
_______
Isn't that how the Indian Mutiny started?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 08, 2024 01:53 PM (1bNHn)

Sepoy Mutiny in India. Yes. It was a rumor that were wiped in pig lard (to piss off the Mussies) or beef tallow (to piss off the Hindus). In the 1850's IIRC.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (ynpvh)

168 >>>Ace, maybe you should stop doing Trump posts. It doesn't seem like it's very good for you.

Just sayin.'

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus a

No. Obviously I have to cover him. I didn't even want to cover this but it was all anyone was talking about in the last post.

If some people are going to try to enforce an SJW rule that trump must always be praised, then I suggest that they leave.

I'm not putting up with this. Period.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (KRtlO)

169 I waiting for the part when the justices tell the CO dunce under what conditions and how the state CAN disqualify Trump.

Then dismiss this case and wait for the next one so they can then rule "properly."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (Q4IgG)

170 Roberts for all his faults realizes the implication of a 6-3 decision in a case where Colorado is way over their skiis - hell the skiis are flying a mile behind them. And the doofus from Colorado commenting we may cry if you rule against us?

I'm thinking he has told everyone if this can't be 9-0 we need to discuss. This is a political issue - not a legal one.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (GZYu7)

171

ACE, right on!!!

Posted by: four seasons at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (PisyI)

172 I trust one of Our Black-Robed Masters was clever enough to ask:

"Since the January 6, 2021 incidents at the Capitol actually prevented President Trump's team from formally contesting the certification of the 2020 election in the 7 swing states, thereby leading to the certification of Joe Biden as winner, wouldn't those incidents, and their alleged leader, Mr. Trump, be more truthfully described as 'anti-insurrectionist' in effect and action?"

Alas, I shan't be holding my breath for this argument to be made.

I simply shannot.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (atdF6)

173
"Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people."

======

Maybe not. The Powerline boys think Trump's lawyer (Jonathan Mitchell) was "outstanding." I say this in complete ignorance, since I have no idea about Trump "not pushing" the issue about who an officer is or isn't, even though I heard that part of the proceeding.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (5kzk9)

174 the abyss looks also into you

Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (AcWfM)

175 I am saying 5-4 against trump with Barrett writing the opinion that Trump organized a violent armed insurrection.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (GHIaS)

176 Does Roberts give a single damn about the future of this country? I know the left wing justices don’t, but doesn’t he realize what kind of fascist shit the dems are pulling?
Posted by: UGAdawg at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (tRd71)
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He's in on it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (7fElN)

177 The Hill
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration
Group trying to disbar lawyers who worked on Trump’s post …

Webby Monique Beals - 03/07/22 1:32 PM ET

A dark money group with connections to the Democratic Party is reportedly looking to disbar and discredit more than 100 lawyers who …
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Spend some time on Pak 65 then get back to us on Trump's lawyers.





Posted by: Braenyard at February 08, 2024 01:58 PM (9IvoX)

178 I know the left wing justices don’t, but doesn’t he realize what kind of fascist shit the dems are pulling?
Posted by: UGAdawg

He's in love with the idea of DC religiously.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2024 01:58 PM (IG4Id)

179 Stratton
Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 01:54 PM

Strattford, Stratton...Forget it, he's rolling.

Sure, some of our pledges took some liberties with some of our female guests...

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:58 PM (4p0Xq)

180 Does Roberts give a single damn about the future of this country? I know the left wing justices don’t, but doesn’t he realize what kind of fascist shit the dems are pulling? [/i


My consciousness says yes, but those pictures of me on Epstein island say no...

Posted by: Justice Roberts at February 08, 2024 01:58 PM (ibTVg)

181 Trump has flaws, look at his hair.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 08, 2024 01:58 PM (NtVYv)

Posted by: Justice Roberts at February 08, 2024 01:58 PM (ibTVg)

183 >>>Maybe not. The Powerline boys think Trump's lawyer (Jonathan Mitchell) was "outstanding."

it was literally a throwaway line, but apparently Trump is like Jesus and we must not profane his name with less-than-reverent speech.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:58 PM (KRtlO)

184 I'm not putting up with this. Period.

Posted by: ace


OK, Ace. Noted.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (9yWhg)

185 Joe, always go to where cert is granted for the court. Here is the legal question that Scotus asked for the petitioner and respondents to answer.

"The Supreme Court of Colorado held that President Donald J. Trump is disqualified from holding the office of President because he "engaged in insurrection" against the Constitution of the United States-and that he did so after taking an oath "as an officer of the United States" to "support" the Constitution. The state supreme court ruled that the Colorado Secretary of State should not list President Trump's name on the
2024 presidential primary ballot or count any write-in votes cast for him. The state supreme court stayed its decision pending United States Supreme Court review.

The question presented is:
Did the Colorado Supreme Court err in ordering President Trump excluded from the 2024 presidential primary ballot?

This is pretty broad based and as a result, you will get more from the briefs submitted than from the oral argument.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (jxAhR)

186 MITCHELL!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (63Dwl)


This movie positively reeks of spilled Schlitz, cigarette butts and pizza crusts.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (/HDaX)

187 Did I misunderstand Kagan? Is she arguing against Colorado?

she is arguing against Colorado, yes
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As I understood it, she was asking "if we uphold this, how does that not open the door for every state to make up its own rules on who is Constitutionally qualified to run for president?"

And he tried to pretend it was more like residency requirements for non-federal office and not a Constitutional qualification--while arguing a Constitutional Amendment in Federal Court.

I mean, if it sounds stupid that's because it is.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (cSaKW)

188 Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:52 PM (KRtlO)
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His staff picks have been shitty and insane at times. People are shitty and insane, it's the way it is. I fucking hate Trump for several things he has done but he is unfortunately it.

I will happily name those things and get into the Punishment Circle if it will make DeSantis supporters feel better.

I want to know who this magic person is that has all these incredible picks plus all the other a tual skills Trump has.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (oNgxs)

189 I am saying 5-4 against trump with Barrett writing the opinion that Trump organized a violent armed insurrection.

For the record almost every protestor brought 2 arms with them.

Posted by: I'll be here all week try the veal at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (ibTVg)

190 Sweet meteor of death!

Please show us your mercy and destroy all of Washington DC.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (r+J3S)

191 Come on guys- this is a happy occasion! Our side looks to win one for a change

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (geLO8)

192 Eric Strattford in Animal House.

Eric Stratton. It’s like you’re not even pleased to meet me.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair, Rush Chairman at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (PmqP5)

193 @175

>>I am saying 5-4 against trump with Barrett writing the opinion that Trump organized a violent armed insurrection.

Nah, this will be at most 7-2, and more than likely 9-0 for Trump.

Hopefully they right an opinion that isn't a needle threading monstrosity.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (rc3Z7)

194 141 Ace isn't a NT.

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Sure he is. He's just a Jon Stewart "NT nose on, NT nose off" NeverTrumper.

Just like Kurt Schlichter. His hot take today is that Trump should shut up about Bud Light. You see, I'm not in a cult, know how I know that ? Because it is merely Trump's opinion that "Budweiser is not a woke company". I disagree. But I also don't take Trump's opinion as some kind of gospel. I can understand that Trump is who I want nominated, but that not every word out of the man's mouth is always right, nor does it matter if it is. People like Schlichter seem to think that we all just march forward as if Trump is our God.

Nope. Sometimes he's wrong. But he's right more than anyone else has been, and that's enough for me, thanks very much.

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (OeYsY)

195 MITCHELL!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (63Dwl)


This movie positively reeks of spilled Schlitz, cigarette butts and pizza crusts.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent


One of the most quotable MSTs ever.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (9yWhg)

196 This movie positively reeks of spilled Schlitz, cigarette butts and pizza crusts.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM

What were you doing in my first apartment?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (4p0Xq)

197 Trump tends to hire incompetents?

Posted by: Omarosa at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (xT7BI)

198 The real question is:
Are the lady justices going commando under their robes?
Yowr.

Posted by: Darius Honeycum, Esq. at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (v0R5T)

199 For the record almost every protestor brought 2 arms with them.


hurtful

Posted by: Michelle Fields at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (AcWfM)

200 If some people are going to try to enforce an SJW rule that trump must always be praised, then I suggest that they leave.

Where did anyone do that? They just pointed out that you can't resist getting your digs in at Trump, even in a case where one of his "incompetent hires" may win the case in a unanimous decision.

You're going to ban people for pointing that out?

Posted by: spindrift at February 08, 2024 02:01 PM (MqhXY)

201 I think at least one leftist judge has to vote for CO so they don't look like idiots. Well, bigger idiots.

9-0 is a bad look...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2024 02:01 PM (ibTVg)

202 I try my hardest to be in Trump's corner but when I fully think I'm there, he misses the spit cup and it lands in my face. Ex: him supporting this Whatley clown to lead the RNC. Stupid.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 08, 2024 02:01 PM (ImwvP)

203 Yeah, I'm kinda sick of the Trump straw men. You need a crew served weapon to knock them down they're so numerous. It would actually be refreshing to hear someone admit Trump has flaws like the rest of us and any candidate, rather than rushing on every time with some excuse for what's he's done.

Trump is shitty at picking people. That's demonstrably true. So is the fact that his behavior and his lack of unity turn off a good part of the voting public he needs to win. Get over it. Those are just facts, only a cultist would deny.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (dhhKu)

There's a perception problem here. If YOU see people who only defend EVERYTHING Trump does, then the rest of us who question those who ONLY EVER criticize him, and you think that means we're the ones who aren't seeing reality...

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 02:01 PM (9ud8w)

204 Trump tends to hire incompetents?

Posted by: Omarosa at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (xT7BI)

Yeah, what an ignoramus.

Posted by: Ron DeSantis at February 08, 2024 02:01 PM (i24o9)

205 Jason Murray (Colorado) argues that if the Supreme Court doesn't remove Donald Trump from the ballot, Democrats will have to try to stop Congress from certifying his electors when he wins.

So, they'll engage in an "insurrection" by their definition.

.. didn't the recent changes to the Elections Act make challenging the electors impossible ? .. or was that just the VP ?

Posted by: SMOD at February 08, 2024 02:01 PM (RHGPo)

206 Given the questions from the leftist judges and the lousy responses from the Colo atty, 9-0 for Trump

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 08, 2024 02:01 PM (EeR8D)

207 Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)

Whoa there Ace...Indeed, this IS your house and you can invite in and kick out any guests you like.

I thought my comment was pretty tame.
Sorry if I missed the /sarc tag on that one.

But if you're gonna kick me out for that, well, that's your decision.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:02 PM (ynpvh)

208 Are the lady justices going commando under their robes?
Yowr.
Posted by: Darius Honeycum, Esq. at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (v0R5T)

Thursdays are air-out days.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 08, 2024 02:02 PM (R4t5M)

209 Does it really matter when Biden will get a new record 95 million votes 2 weeks after election day?

Posted by: Richard Windsor at February 08, 2024 02:02 PM (CZPkK)

210 The plan is to decertify electors. It always has been. they tried to do it in 2016 but failed. Now they'll just have to accuse an elector of participating in Jan 6th as an excuse to disqualify them.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 08, 2024 02:02 PM (zoVfv)

211 even Bill Mitchell, the most f-ing reta*ded of the DeSantis supporters came out in support of Trump (after swearing he never would and would quit "X", etc.).

Posted by: Kitty litter Larry at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (xaNfJ)

He is retarded, after all.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 08, 2024 02:02 PM (i24o9)

212 Stupid mouthbreathing cultists gonna cult.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:50 PM (KRtlO)

"..it is to our collective misfortune citizens of their ilk are elevated to positions where they are able to inflict their inexorable vituperation on us all. Even those who promote them. That those promoters are too obtuse to see the detriment to the collective in no excuse for their behavior. Their moral compasses are defective and they relish in their pathetic bent. Their family is in an existential fight but they throw rocks from the rear not caring who gets hit."

Posted by: International Brotherhood of Hobos and Associated Hermits at February 08, 2024 02:02 PM (dzZCL)

213 Chief Justice Roberts asked a deadly question of why the 14th Amendment (which is designed to limit the power of states) would be used to enhance this power of the states. He suggested that Murray's arguments are "ahistorical."

.. this is the kind of question I would expect from a SCOTUS Justice

Posted by: SMOD at February 08, 2024 02:02 PM (RHGPo)

214 191 Come on guys- this is a happy occasion! Our side looks to win one for a change



I know, right?

I'm still trying to figure out the social media plastering of "one state can't decide for the other 49" by all my leftie chums

what does it mean

I mean they dont' know - they don't think - they just post whatever they are supposed to

hmm

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (AcWfM)

215 I will happily name those things and get into the Punishment Circle if it will make DeSantis supporters feel better.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (oNgxs)

This is veering towards nonsense. DeSantis is no longer running for the nomination. Maybe let that go, instead of fixating on it?

I was 100% behind a DeSantis nomination, but I didn't get what I wanted, so now I am supporting the presumptive candidate...Donald Trump.

That doesn't mean I don't get to criticize him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (gSZYf)

216 What were you doing in my first apartment?
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (4p0Xq)


Reading the MST guide to the show. Any more commentary along these lines will result in a missive from the 17,000 lbs of attorneys I retain.

Good day, sir.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (/HDaX)

217 I think the point is that Trump isn't above reproach. If you have a material, factual argument make it. Don't get sand in your vagina every time the guy whose blog you're voluntarily reading make a valid criticism.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (dhhKu)

218 Come on guys- this is a happy occasion! Our side looks to win one for a change

Right? Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo killed 'oo.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (CsUN+)

219 Just like Kurt Schlichter. His hot take today is that Trump should shut up about Bud Light.

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (OeYsY)
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Yeah, I have no take on that. I was never drinking a bland mass-marketed beer, so I'm not going to start just because somebody called a truce.

Anheiser-Bush can fuck off just as much as they could before they brought in Mulroney.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (krQz2)

220 Notably, some of the toughest and most skeptical questions came from the left of the Court.

They don't want to have to revisit this.
Posted by: rickb223

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I seem to recall the Left side doing this in the past, but only to show they thought really hard before pissing on the law.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (y5D4X)

221 CNN chyron says justices' questions suggest support for Trump in ballot dispute

Not that SCOTUS is leaning toward what the law actually says.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (xhfG9)

222 141 Ace isn't a NT.

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Sure he is. He's just a Jon Stewart "NT nose on, NT nose off" NeverTrumper.

Just like Kurt Schlichter. His hot take today is that Trump should shut up about Bud Light. You see, I'm not in a cult, know how I know that ? Because it is merely Trump's opinion that "Budweiser is not a woke company". I disagree. But I also don't take Trump's opinion as some kind of gospel. I can understand that Trump is who I want nominated, but that not every word out of the man's mouth is always right, nor does it matter if it is. People like Schlichter seem to think that we all just march forward as if Trump is our God.

Nope. Sometimes he's wrong. But he's right more than anyone else has been, and that's enough for me, thanks very much.
Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM

So has Ace indicated to you privately or publically here that he's NOT voting forTrump? Cuz not voting for him I suppose is the mark of a NT'er. Or is it just possible, just possible, that he doesn't owe him a blind allegiance that is above criticism?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (4p0Xq)

223 Trump is shitty at picking people. That's demonstrably true. So is the fact that his behavior and his lack of unity turn off a good part of the voting public he needs to win. Get over it. Those are just facts, only a cultist would deny.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (dhhKu)
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I think his selection process is probably wrong. Some of his picks were pretty good (or at least were in the moment, but broke weird after the administration), but many were not. Rex Tillerson at State was a bizarre choice I tried to rationalize as having to do with MidEast relations. It got undone quickly. Sessions should have been fired the moment he recused himself.

But that aside, I think it's down to selection criteria: is the person Trump's friend or in his club? If so, he might appoint you to something big. There is also the factor of confirmation nonsense and obstruction, but I think that's secondary.

Has Trump widened his talent pool? I dunno. I hope so. I think it's pretty important.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (yjAVs)

224 even Bill Mitchell, the most f-ing reta*ded of the DeSantis supporters came out in support of Trump (after swearing he never would and would quit "X", etc.).

Posted by: Kitty litter Larry at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (xaNfJ)

.. is he the guy with the hair products ?

Posted by: SMOD at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (RHGPo)

225 Don't blow your load before the girl gets into the bed. This should be a slam-dunk 9-0 "go fuck yourself" decision. Should be. But we aren't living in a sane, rational world any more.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (iFTx/)

226 @188

>>His staff picks have been shitty and insane at times.

The only real objectively bad picks at the time were Bolton and whatever he had Omarosa doing.

And you could even argue that Bolton wasn't a bad pick from a Team of Rivals stand point.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (rc3Z7)

227 It's inaccurate to call Ace "Nevertrump" as he was for Trump 8 years ago and was solid for him for the next 4 years. He's more "Trump then but not now", if anything.

Actually, a bit less than 8. But he turned to Trump before Schlichter and Kimball did. I wish he'd follow their lead here. Note that Schlichter was for Meatball while there was still hope, but is solid Trump now.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (1bNHn)

228 Hey, this orange robe is actually kinda comfy.

Dig me. I'm like Halloween Batman over here.

Nananananananana.....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (9UlRk)

229 I still don't understand why Trump left all the Obama people around in government.

I can't blame him for Sessions but fuck. I do blame him for Bigmouth Billy Barr.

And scaramucci and the energy idiot and holy fuck some other ones. Less the political appointees where he wasn't getting anyone else through.

I just thought the shot was cheap and think I said so. It has nothing to do with me wanting to read criticism. I would have left at the "I'm voting for Hillary" post were that the case.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (oNgxs)

230 I ain't touching this one.

Posted by: Hall Monitor at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (v0R5T)

231 Peter Navarro ordered to report to prison.
The judge rejected him waiting until the appeal is heard.

Posted by: old chick at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (sOete)

232
Uh-oh. I really didn't know there was a raging argument on the point I casually made. I guess I should read the comments first -- but then I'll be willowed when I get around to chiming in! It's impossible, I tells ya.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (5kzk9)

233 en Bill Mitchell, the most f-ing reta*ded of the DeSantis supporters came out in support of Trump (after swearing he never would and would quit "X", etc.).

Posted by: Kitty litter Larry at February 08, 2024 01:49 PM (xaNfJ)

He is retarded, after all.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 08, 2024 02:02 PM (i24o9)
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Trump can't attract good people.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (krQz2)

234 If you look at a Biden v Trump election and do anything other then vote for Trump you are a goddamned traitor to everything this country was built on and a piece of shit as a person as well.

And yes I am/was a Heavy D supporter before he dropped out.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2024 02:05 PM (ibTVg)

235 ACE, right on!!!
Posted by: four seasons at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (PisyI)
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Trump rules!!!!

Posted by: The Platters at February 08, 2024 02:05 PM (2yu8s)

236 I think the point is that Trump isn't above reproach.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (dhhKu)

Nobody said he was.

Nobody.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 02:05 PM (9ud8w)

237 Ex: him supporting this Whatley clown to lead the RNC. Stupid.

Why is he a clown?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 02:05 PM (CsUN+)

238 Maybe not. The Powerline boys think Trump's lawyer (Jonathan Mitchell) was "outstanding." I say this in complete ignorance, since I have no idea about Trump "not pushing" the issue about who an officer is or isn't, even though I heard that part of the proceeding.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office
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Much of the case involves settled law but whether the President is an officer of the US is not well defined in scotus for a variety of applications such as the emoluments clause. That application is where Seth Tillman filed an amicus brief.

State ballot access for federal offices is pretty much an issue of US Term Limits v. Thornton where a state may not put additional qualifications on a ballot for a federal officer (term limits) and that borrows from Powell v. McCormick which ruled refusing to seat an elected representative was unconstitutional and beyond Congressional power. Congress may expel them with 2/3 majority but not declare the seat vacant by refusal to seat them.

Then there is the 14th meaning and whether the fact that Congress repealed punishment in the 1890's as well as Congress controlling who is or is not an insurrectionist via waivers.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:05 PM (jxAhR)

239 "not wanting"

See ace? You got me all spun up now.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:05 PM (oNgxs)

240 This is pretty broad based and as a result, you will get more from the briefs submitted than from the oral argument.
Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 01:59 PM (jxAhR)
++++
Thanks, whig.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:06 PM (yjAVs)

241 This is veering towards nonsense. DeSantis is no longer running for the nomination. Maybe let that go, instead of fixating on it?

I was 100% behind a DeSantis nomination, but I didn't get what I wanted, so now I am supporting the presumptive candidate...Donald Trump.

That doesn't mean I don't get to criticize him.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM

BINGO. Roger CBD you are over the target, release bombs.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:06 PM (4p0Xq)

242 Trump is shitty at picking people. That's demonstrably true. So is the fact that his behavior and his lack of unity turn off a good part of the voting public he needs to win. Get over it. Those are just facts, only a cultist would deny.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (dhhKu)
++++

this is the natural handicap of an outsider to DC
He had to take suggestions from others that didn't always have his agenda in mind

Posted by: SMOD at February 08, 2024 02:06 PM (RHGPo)

243 "Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people."

Remember the guy who everyone who pisses and moans about Trump daily supported in the primaries?

Remember his absolutely shit campaign?

Why was it shit? Surely not because he hired incompetent campaign people. Surely not because he hired incompetent advisors. I'm reliably told only Trump does things like that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:06 PM (uvymP)

244 231 Peter Navarro ordered to report to prison.
The judge rejected him waiting until the appeal is heard.


horrible

they need this you see; they probably know they're losing on the CO case and they want to perp walk at least someone tangential to PDJT

creepy fucks that they are. nice narrative add tho, putting him behind bars

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:06 PM (AcWfM)

245 Uh-oh. I really didn't know there was a raging argument on the point I casually made. I guess I should read the comments first -- but then I'll be willowed when I get around to chiming in! It's impossible, I tells ya.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office
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We'll wait.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:06 PM (jxAhR)

246 Let's face it.

We have the worst political class.

Braindeads, incompetents, grifters, commies, fascists, spineless wonders, and criminals.

A veritable kaleidescope diversity!

Posted by: Just Lily at February 08, 2024 02:07 PM (vivhj)

247 Does Roberts give a single damn about the future of this country? I know the left wing justices don’t, but doesn’t he realize what kind of fascist shit the dems are pulling?

Tell me you don't read the content without telling me you don't read the content. Andrew Breitbart would be proud.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:07 PM (2ocoG)

248 My thinking the Colorado case is just battle space prep for future democrat treason.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 08, 2024 02:07 PM (17s+e)

249 The whole CO thing was an exercise in begging the question. "Assume an insurrectionist" and so on.
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SOMEONE actually used "begging the question correctly"! Are we in end times?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 08, 2024 02:07 PM (1bNHn)

250 I'm not putting up with this. Period.

= =

But that's part of the problem, Ace.

I couldn't give less of a fuck about Trump himself. He's a billionaire playboy real-estate New Yorker who puts his name on the side of skyscrapers, plus reality TV Star, FFS. What did you expect? Meanwhile / simultaneously, he is a Washington outsider. Yet we expect him to make perfect picks for everything. And when they went bad, it was all his fault. Even though it wasn't and we have never held another leader to those standards.

I simply acknowledge that building the southern border wall was good. The economy was good. The Abraham accords were good. Getting out of the Paris Climate crap was good. There was a lot of good that beat the crap out of previous administrations.

But for acknowledging this, I'm a cultist. That is simply wrong.

I appreciate that you hate Trump. I have no problem with that. But quit hating on me for appreciating a lot of his results. And as a person who lost friends to Jim Jones in that Guyana Jungle, it's infuriating that you call me a cultist.

I'll shut up now and go back to lurking.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at February 08, 2024 02:07 PM (AD14M)

251 "Has Trump widened his talent pool? I dunno. I hope so. I think it's pretty important.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:03 PM (yjAVs)"

He's vetting people for RNC Chair and using the criteria of "they supported stop the steal". That's the crap leaking out of his camp.

Read; not that they can organize, clean up the balance sheet, fundraise, fight the right legal battles, get rid of the constant class, GOTV or position people on states to challenge election processes.

He hasn't changed a bit. Stroke his ego and favorite issues. You're on his good list.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:07 PM (dhhKu)

252 Ex: him supporting this Whatley clown to lead the RNC. Stupid.

Wilbur? Of the Dunwich Whateleys? That is a decadent and lugubrious choice.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (PmqP5)

253 5-4 maybe 6-3 in favor of PDT. Leftist justices fear their base. The justices who vote against will be able to say, "hey, we did what we could but darn those severely conservative justices!"

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (tT6L1)

254 So, about that Lincoln fellow...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (9yWhg)

255 >>>Where did anyone do that? They just pointed out that you can't resist getting your digs in at Trump, even in a case where one of his "incompetent hires" may win the case in a unanimous decision.
You're going to ban people for pointing that out?

Yes. I do not love Trump. This is not a secret.

At this point, the constant grumbling -- even over meaningless throwaway asides, even regarding THE CONSTANT EXCUSE OFFERED FOR TRUMP THAT HE IS PERFECT, AND THAT IT'S ONLY HIS STAFFERS WHO FAIL -- is an attempt to impose your will over me that this site will not contain anything but completely supportive statements about trump.

I refuse. I refuse. Now that you know I refuse, you have a choice: You can accept it, or you can GO.

The third choice, in which you just attack me every day to get me On Message, is not an option.

I'm not going to be subjected to Message Conformity Policing on my own blog.

You will just have to accept that some people who support trump do so with reservations and are not quite as possessed with Trump enthusiasm as some of you are.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (KRtlO)

256 And you could even argue that Bolton wasn't a bad pick from a Team of Rivals stand point.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (rc3Z7)

What the shit was Scaramucci? And didn't he hire Omarosa? And I blame him BIGLY for Billy Barr.

Of course I was criticizing his Barr pick back when it wasnt fashionable and it made me a traitor and an idiot. I think you were too.

I'm just saying I don't give a fuck who criticizes Trump or anyone else but I can make an argument against it, throwaway or not.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (oNgxs)

257 117 I dunno if it's just a case of Trump hiring incompetents; I mean, the left has gone after every lawyer that helped Trump in attempts to get them disbarred in the states they practice in. So the field of lawyers willing to help Trump is pretty small these days; they have to be willing to put their law licenses on the line and be willing to be inundated with death threats.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 01:51 PM (ynpvh

This is true. It is also true Trump has made some hiring decisions that are, in simple terms, crap. Not all, but some big ones. We can analyze why - the biggest being he felt the people he could trust most were family, failing to notice one of those was a card carrying Dem. This is problematic and epically so.

I am a Trump fan, but I am not blind to his flaws. I think we need to be hyper aware of them because that is where we need to apply pressure should some miracle occur and an actual election happen with Trump as a candidate.

Posted by: Piper at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (ZdaMQ)

258 Surely not because he hired incompetent advisors. I'm reliably told only Trump does things like that.

Trump hired Nikki Haley. Your point is invalid.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (2ocoG)

259 207 Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (KRtlO)

Whoa there Ace...Indeed, this IS your house and you can invite in and kick out any guests you like.

I thought my comment was pretty tame.
Sorry if I missed the /sarc tag on that one.

But if you're gonna kick me out for that, well, that's your decision.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:02 PM (ynpvh)

I'll say goodbye to the folks, dust off my shoes and coat, take my suitcase and mosey on out.
AND I'm no Trump Robot. I take offense to that, ACE. If you read my comments, you'd know better.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (ynpvh)

260 "Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people."

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I need clarification. So, you're saying that Trump initially choosing Chris Christy as the chairman of his 2016 Transition Team was a bad choice? I'm just not seeing it.

Posted by: Stevie Wonder with a blindfold at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (dIske)

261
YEA!! This hospice thing is really fun!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (X4yCj)

262 229 I still don't understand why Trump left all the Obama people around in government.

Posted by: ...


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In business things are different. You want competence and people who take direction.

In politics, you want the right ideology and people you can trust not to undermine you.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:09 PM (y5D4X)

263
Might I mention General Flynn? Perhaps seeing what the rat bastids did to him so very early might just reduce your talent pool by about 99%.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 08, 2024 02:09 PM (nIvob)

264 Why is everyone talking about Carbon Monoxide today?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 08, 2024 02:09 PM (1bNHn)

265 And you could even argue that Bolton wasn't a bad pick from a Team of Rivals stand point.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 08, 2024 02:04 PM (rc3Z7)
++++
That depends entirely on how much Trump knew - or people who Trump had advisors - knew about who Bolton really was.

As an outsider, I kinda liked Bolton at the time. He had the appearance of being "tough" and a track record that wasn't an undifferentiated series of disasters.

Then it turned out that he was the cheapest whore in Washington, selling himself for the political equivalent of a ham sandwich and had coincidentally blundered into a personal history that had the occasional success. Did Trump's people know that in advance and not tell him? If so, the advisors sucked. Did nobody know it and they got blindsided, too? If so, they didn't have adequate experience. The former is a much greater sin than the latter, though both are related to personnel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:09 PM (yjAVs)

266 >ACE, right on!!!
Posted by: four seasons
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Trump rules!!!!

Posted by: The Platters


I don't know- maybe...
Posted by: The Temptations

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:09 PM (geLO8)

267 Thanks, whig.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

No problem. Cases of first impression are always messy by design. Usually the court finds narrow grounds in such cases--e.g. control of federal ballots is a ministerial act by states and the national government via Congress has the power to punish but not the states. Or President is not an officer of the US as contemplated by the 14th, etc.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:09 PM (jxAhR)

268 I'm not going to be subjected to Message Conformity Policing on my own blog.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (KRtlO)

Can we at least discuss your taste in 80s music?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2024 02:09 PM (gSZYf)

269 Downloads of X on the Apple app store are surging ahead of Tucker Carlson's interview of Pooty-poot. X is now #1, ahead of Tik-Tok, Chat GPT, etc.

Elon Musk says, "It's almost as if you can't trust the media."

http://tinyurl.com/mryp8ut4

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 08, 2024 02:10 PM (woPEM)

270 This thread could really use a Mannix boobette.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 02:10 PM (9yWhg)

271 So, to sum up.

NTrs: You are cultists!

Cultists: You are NTrs!

Meanwhile, the leftists are burning the place down.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 08, 2024 02:10 PM (i24o9)

272 Maybe we just let this one slide

Posted by: The Coasters

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:10 PM (geLO8)

273 I like DeSantis but thought this was not his year.
The Republicans are notorious for going with the next guy in line.
In 2028, it will probably be DeSantis if he doesn't self-destruct before then. I didn't like what appeared to be his alignment with the typical Chamber of Commerce globalist GOPe stooges.

Nikki has self destructed. She went all in with the Chamber of Commerce globalist GOPe stooges. She should try again for Governor and stay home.

Posted by: SMOD at February 08, 2024 02:10 PM (RHGPo)

274 >>>We have the worst political class.

Braindeads, incompetents, grifters, commies, fascists, spineless wonders, and criminals.

A veritable kaleidescope diversity!
Posted by: Just Lily


Been like this since Reagan was out of office.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 08, 2024 02:10 PM (d2bW3)

275 I'll say goodbye to the folks, dust off my shoes and coat, take my suitcase and mosey on out.
AND I'm no Trump Robot. I take offense to that, ACE. If you read my comments, you'd know better.

I hope you won't make it permanent.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 02:10 PM (CsUN+)

276 Why Tump does not have the best lawyers:

https://thefederalist.com/2024/02/05/democr
ats-work-to-strip-all-opponents-of-representation-in-court/

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:10 PM (y5D4X)

277 One of the staff picks that that I would say is a mistake is Bannon.

And it wasn't ideological. Bannon has some of the "right politics".

But he was a total asshat in his reaction to the Trump Tower meeting, where his reaction just played into the Dem assessment of "treason" to meet with somebody that Glenn Simpson met with every time she came to the country--and a long-time naturalized American citizen whose origin was in that area.

Bannon screwed 3 pooches on that one and might have been reaching for a 4th.

It seemed like a good idea at the time to have him on the staff, didn't it? Not that I was ever a fanboy for Bannon, but I thought he just needed to be staunch enough against the flow to work. And he was that.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (krQz2)

278 "The whole CO thing was an exercise in begging the question. "Assume an insurrectionist" and so on."

A perfectly spherical insurrectionist in a frictionless vacuum?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (ou9hh)

279 >>>
ut that's part of the problem, Ace.

I couldn't give less of a fuck about Trump himself. He's a billionaire playboy real-estate New Yorker who puts his name on the side of skyscrapers, plus reality TV Star, FFS. What did you expect? Meanwhile / simultaneously, he is a Washington outsider. Yet we expect him to make perfect picks for everything. And when they went bad, it was all his fault. Even though it wasn't and we have never held another leader to those standards.

We haven't?

Harriet Miers, anyone?

>>>I simply acknowledge that building the southern border wall was good. The economy was good. The Abraham accords were good. Getting out of the Paris Climate crap was good. There was a lot of good that beat the crap out of previous administrations.

But for acknowledging this, I'm a cultist. That is simply wrong.

...

No, I never said anyone supporting Trump is a cultist. *I* am supporting trump (as a next-best option).

I am saying that anyone who continues insisting that Trump is perfect, and who, further, attempts to bully everyone else into repeating this catechism, is a cultist.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (KRtlO)

280 ok let me cheer things up

I give you - Wil Wheaton's treatise on Larry David vs Elmo! (delete the space)

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/ 1755591578318704945

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (AcWfM)

281
Meanwhile, the leftists are burning the place down.

We have scientific proof fire is good for you, you...science hating NAZI.

Look? Cooked food is good right? Now let me just set your arm on fire to show you how good it will be for you!

Posted by: Some leftist at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (ibTVg)

282 Trump had years worth of experience in business. In fact that's one of the things he sold us on would help him to pick the right people. Then he had four years in office, and three more to think about it. Meanwhile he's still picking the wrong people for the wrong reasons. The problem is Trump. Not the swamp, not that people are attacking him, not that he's been poisoned by unicorn farts. It's his shitty, egotistical stroking way of thinking about things. It's a personal flaw.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (dhhKu)

283 Unity deez nuts, that word is becoming an easy identifier of certifiable homos as easily as the people who say things like "equity."

You're going to get $2 gas again, a peaceful world, and illegals being tossed into the ocean, and you're going to have to accept it, no matter how much you bite your Daily Wire pillow.

Posted by: UwU_Power at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (8MjZp)

284 My understanding is that the Colorado lawyer is saying the Trump was proven to be an insurrectionist by the illegal J6 commission, and therefore the court has to accept that as trumping the constitution.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (CeJN/)

285 I remember when "Bill Mitchell, the most f-ing reta*ded of the DeSantis supporters" was "Bill Mitchell, the most f-ing reta*ded of the Trump supporters" back in the day.

He's just retarded. And a blatant grifter.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (f6YJh)

286 Colorado is the state that was just flirting with mandatory registration and taxation of.....pets.

Democrat from Colorado Springs. Wanted $8.50/year for each pet, up to $25 per pet/year if no plans filed with the state for guardianship if the owner can't care for the pet anymore.

And yes, pet fish were included.

The bill's not doing very well since people found out about it, for some reason.

Go ahead, Gorgle search 'Colorado pet tax' for a few yoks.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (a9CYf)

287 You know what seems much more insurrectiony than parading around the Capitol building? Not only greenlighting but actively incentivizing and rewarding the trespass into the country by millions of criminal aliens with the intent to dilute and ultimately disenfranchise the native population. Call me crazy, but I'm less concerned with geriatrics escorted by police milling around federal property than I am MS13 and ISIS freely operating in the country.

Posted by: Mea culpa at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (dsGgL)

288
I'm doing the write in thing. I'm writing in whichever dog of mine shits first on Election Day.



Posted by: four seasons at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (PisyI)

289 Remember the guy who everyone who pisses and moans about Trump daily supported in the primaries?

Remember his absolutely shit campaign?

Why was it shit? Surely not because he hired incompetent campaign people. Surely not because he hired incompetent advisors. I'm reliably told only Trump does things like that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:06 PM (

The difference is that RDS is done with his campaign. Trump if elected (God willing) he will have to hire people again and he does not have the greatest track record on hiring.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (4p0Xq)

290 I'll say goodbye to the folks, dust off my shoes and coat, take my suitcase and mosey on out.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

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Burn the clothes -- don't even bother trying to get the smell out.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (y5D4X)

291 Maybe not. The Powerline boys think Trump's lawyer (Jonathan Mitchell) was "outstanding." I say this in complete ignorance, since I have no idea about Trump "not pushing" the issue about who an officer is or isn't, even though I heard that part of the proceeding.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (5kzk9)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

He's on a roll, what do facts matter when you're all about your FEELZZZ

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (OeYsY)

292 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)


Jim, I hope all is as well with you as it can be. Praying for you and your family.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (9yWhg)

293 Meanwhile, the leftists are burning the place down.

The third option does exist: just vote for Biden to bring on the Burning Times. A lot of people on X/Twitter are in that boat because of the sheer lack of ability to read the room by Trump and his influencers (something you also see on this very thread).

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (2ocoG)

294 People who believe Trump will repair the country are going to be terribly disappointed.

Posted by: International Brotherhood of Hobos and Associated Hermits at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (dzZCL)

295 So, let's talk something not so spicy. Ronna McDaniel staying at RNC? WTF over?

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (xhfG9)

296
I have different opinions than you. Respect my right to have them, and I'll respect your right to have yours.

I once again stress this was not some kind of argument. This was a throwaway line. Let me be clear about what that means: It means I needed to say something there and couldn't think of anything meaninful to say so I just made a minor joke. It's barely even a joke.

I'm now in the fortieth minute of a struggle session about whether or not my completely meaningless joke was Well Researched and Cited or not.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:13 PM (KRtlO)

297 Might I mention General Flynn? Perhaps seeing what the rat bastids did to him so very early might just reduce your talent pool by about 99%.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 08, 2024 02:09 PM (nIvob)

If it helps anyone, it must be acknowledged, the way they have been able to attack and disable any competent Trump picks, at the same time letting the snakes and spies and swamp creatures play for four years inside Trump's White House, is clearly an indicator that THEY are better at this than Trump's team is/was.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say NOBODY who comments here regularly has ever questioned the truth of that.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 02:13 PM (9ud8w)

298 This redhead in sleepwear doesn't want to disappoint Bulgaroctonus:
http://tiny.cc/kkmpwz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:13 PM (yjAVs)

299 When I saw the tweet with the Justice Kagan quote it took me awhile to realize that the picture below wasn't Justice Kagan but Jason Murray.

Posted by: Mark1971 at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (xPl2J)

300 Ace is correct, Trump was lousy at some of his picks. I've said it before but Trump's ego made him naive when it came to politics and DC. He was a very successful business man (some failures) who expected that when he said "jump" his appointees and bureaucrats would say "how high". DC and politics don't work that way.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (EeR8D)

301 I'll say goodbye to the folks, dust off my shoes and coat, take my suitcase and mosey on out.
AND I'm no Trump Robot. I take offense to that, ACE. If you read my comments, you'd know better.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (ynpvh)

Ace isn't referring to you or anyone else who makes rational, non-hysterical comments.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (gSZYf)

302 Trump hired Nikki Haley. Your point is invalid.

Was Haley an incompetent hire? She seemed to do a good job at the United Nations. In retrospect she may be an example of a good employee but a very bad leader.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (PmqP5)

303 Yes, the proposed law would require every pet in Colorado to have a designated Emergency Contact

stop laughing- they meant that shit

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (geLO8)

304 Go ahead, Gorgle search 'Colorado pet tax' for a few yoks.


I mean in PA we have to register all the dogs and pay an annual fee so..I guess not as bad bc only dogs but essentially a pet tax kinda

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (AcWfM)

305 164
...

Trump is shitty at picking people. That's demonstrably true.
...
Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (dhhKu)

Well, the lawyer who acts as spokesperson with the press is kind of hot. There's that.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (1bNHn)

306 This redhead in sleepwear doesn't want to disappoint Bulgaroctonus:
http://tiny.cc/kkmpwz

That bulls-eye in her, uh, center region just draws you in...

Posted by: Some moron at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (ibTVg)

307 I have different opinions than you. Respect my right to have them, and I'll respect your right to have yours.

I once again stress this was not some kind of argument. This was a throwaway line. Let me be clear about what that means: It means I needed to say something there and couldn't think of anything meaninful to say so I just made a minor joke. It's barely even a joke.

I'm now in the fortieth minute of a struggle session about whether or not my completely meaningless joke was Well Researched and Cited or not.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:13 PM (KRtlO)

Understood.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (9ud8w)

308 Trump has the ability to heal the country. His speech after the Iowa win was the most magnanimous he's been. It even convinced some people I know are on the fence to pause. Then he just threw it aside and went full retard. That's exactly why people say he can't do it. He lacks the personal discipline to do so.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:15 PM (dhhKu)

309 Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:13 PM (KRtlO)

I don't see why you have to defend anything bro.

This isn't the day to kick back and forth with you, I get that and will stop.

Some days you like blasting back and forth about any subject. This is not that day nor obviously that subject. That's cool too.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:15 PM (oNgxs)

310 OT:

I have hired men to destroy my bathroom floors. So far: bathroom floors are in the process of being destroyed.

Why Dolley felt the need to spend thousands of dollars to essentially change the color of the floor in the bathrooms, I don't think I will ever understand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 08, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

311 This redhead in sleepwear doesn't want to disappoint Bulgaroctonus:
http://tiny.cc/kkmpwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


Oooh, nice. You've really been hitting it out of the park with the redheads this week. Thanks!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 02:15 PM (9yWhg)

312 Anyone want to come over and butt chug a case of Bud Light with me? Daddy Trump said they needed a second chance.

Posted by: MAGA Cultist at February 08, 2024 02:15 PM (KrqGS)

313
This whole affair has been taxing.

Therefore, Chief Justice Roberts votes to keep Trump off the ballot.

Posted by: Auspex at February 08, 2024 02:15 PM (j4U/Z)

314 Here's the thing.

One of the Lotus Eaters commented recently that he had looked at every single campaign manifesto in the UK and ALL OF THEM had a plank vowing to limit immigration. None of them did.

I think the same is true for Prezzy candidates in USA.
Except one.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:15 PM (y5D4X)

315
Obama had the benefit of secrecy.
Biden--obviously--has the benefit of secrecy.

The FIB probably listened to every call Trump made or took as President, and who knows if they ever stopped two-hopping.

A read an article that said that in the FOIA-ed papers on something else is the indication that the FIB had other long-going "investigations" into Trump and they were trying to keep it the story that it was only Crossfire-Hurricane, and that was over.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:15 PM (krQz2)

316 Maybe not. The Powerline boys think Trump's lawyer (Jonathan Mitchell) was "outstanding." I say this in complete ignorance, since I have no idea about Trump "not pushing" the issue about who an officer is or isn't, even though I heard that part of the proceeding.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at February 08, 2024 01:57 PM (5kzk9)

I want to say that this Mitchell guy is one of the few that Trump himself has kept his big foot (in mouth) out of, and not surprisingly it's paying dividends.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 08, 2024 02:16 PM (f6YJh)

317 296
I have different opinions than you. Respect my right to have them, and I'll respect your right to have yours.

I once again stress this was not some kind of argument. This was a throwaway line. Let me be clear about what that means: It means I needed to say something there and couldn't think of anything meaninful to say so I just made a minor joke. It's barely even a joke.

I'm now in the fortieth minute of a struggle session about whether or not my completely meaningless joke was Well Researched and Cited or not.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:13 PM (KRtlO)

So you gonna kick folks out over a "meaningless joke"?
Sounds harsh, but you're the boss here and I'm a guest.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:16 PM (ynpvh)

318 I should have said every campaign manifesto since WWII

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:16 PM (y5D4X)

319 The difference is that RDS is done with his campaign. Trump if elected (God willing) he will have to hire people again and he does not have the greatest track record on hiring.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (4p0Xq)
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There is a flip side to this, which is overall balance of appointments.

Trump's balance is, by estimation, mostly incompetent, followed by bad actors, followed by good actors. Some of each.

Everyone else's balance is 100% bad actors (and of the same kind - insider hatchet men - though with a different outcome).

If Trump can manage to keep out bad actors this time - and that very much remains to be seen - the balance will move further into his favor, even if the number of incompetents is approximately the same.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:16 PM (yjAVs)

320 Well, the lawyer who acts as spokesperson with the press is kind of hot. There's that.

Nobody's questioning Trump's ability to identify hot women. I mean, except the AWFLs who keep bleating that Big Mike and DOCTOR JILL are classy and elegant and Melania's ugly trailer trash.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:16 PM (2ocoG)

321 BTW: Sharon (Willow's Apprentice) and a few others of you have an email address for me. I get booted, at least you can still contact me.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (ynpvh)

322 Like seriously you have readers who disagree with you about every possible subject. We're mostly not homogenous, that's what makes it a cool place to shoot the shit.

If someone you think is an idiot disagrees with you, call them an idiot like you always do. Makes life so much easier.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (oNgxs)

323 Everything you need to know about Trump's ability to hire only the best people can be summed up with this fact: Piers Morgan won the Celebrity Apprentice. It's a weakness of his, no doubt. Sometimes, he's hired folks to universal acclaim that have turned out to be VERY substandard as well, which makes it look even worse. (Did NOT see Gen. Mattis as being a miserable failure when he was announced, or expect Jeff Sessions to be the disaster that he was, for example.)

But that said, I don't think that this lawyer is by any means one of those bad hires, merely that he chose his shots in a target-rich environment, and missed one that appealed to the jurist who was unable to adequately explain her own gender. In fairness, figuring out what she thinks is a task best left to someone that's read her formative texts, like the Necronomicon, and failed the requisite SAN checks.

Posted by: American Hawkman at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (skAOD)

324 Yes, the proposed law would require every pet in Colorado to have a designated Emergency Contact

stop laughing- they meant that shit
Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (geLO
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They should not allow "refer recess" in the State Capitol.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (krQz2)

325 Reading the Legalinsurrection.com article at least get feeling it's good. Leftists are going bat shit crazy the Supreme Court is going to rule against them.
Thought the Cultural Marxists in the Court would rule against Trump but even they see its stupid case

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (fwDg9)

326 >Why Dolley felt the need to spend thousands of dollars to essentially change the color of the floor in the bathrooms, I don't think I will ever understand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison


just nod and smile
you'll live longer

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (geLO8)

327 And by the way, ACB was another shitty pick. That lady is going full lib, especially on the post Bruen 2A appeals.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (dhhKu)

328 >>People who believe Trump will repair the country are going to be terribly disappointed.

I don't want him to repair the country. I want him to punish my enemies, close the freaking border and fix the economy while not getting us into any new stupid wars.

He already did those things once. He can do it again. Nobody is going to make leftists less insane.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (LkLld)

329 275 I'll say goodbye to the folks, dust off my shoes and coat, take my suitcase and mosey on out.
AND I'm no Trump Robot. I take offense to that, ACE. If you read my comments, you'd know better.

I hope you won't make it permanent.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Very rough week for Jim. Prayers to him and his family for his loss of his wife.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (jxAhR)

330 Jimmy, if you go I'm going to start bawling. Don't do this to me today.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (oNgxs)

331 It's either Trump's ad hoc stable of crooked retards and lackeys, or McConnell's veteran stable of Uniparty back-bench retards and lackeys.

I don't really see too many other coalitions forming with any kind of electoral heft.

Or, you know, just support the "Pol Pot was a girly little pussy" team directly and let the bitch burn all the way to the ground.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (9UlRk)

332 I have a very hard time believing Justice Jackson will side with Trump, despite the questions.

She was just looking for answers to refute the argument she raised which will be put into her opinion.

Posted by: Jay in PA at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (i7Q7S)

333 326 just nod and smile
you'll live longer
Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (geLO

=======

She demanded to know, from me, if they were going to leave that ugly line along the bottom of the bathtub.

Like I've ever torn up and replaced a floor before.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)

334 Very rough week for Jim. Prayers to him and his family for his loss of his wife.
Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (jxAhR)
++++
Absolutely.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (yjAVs)

335 Very rough week for Jim. Prayers to him and his family for his loss of his wife.
Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (jxAhR)

Oh fuck I had no idea. Shit Jim I'm so sorry.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (oNgxs)

336 Nobody's questioning Trump's ability to identify hot women. I mean, except the AWFLs who keep bleating that Big Mike and DOCTOR JILL are classy and elegant and Melania's ugly trailer trash.

Big Mike is beautiful and Big Mike SMASH anyone that say Big Mike not most beautiful. Who Doctor Jill? ME SMASH.

What you mean Hunter smash Doctor Jill? Doctor Jill still breathing?

Posted by: Michelle Obama not understanding Biden family dynamics at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (ibTVg)

337 And so it continues

Posted by: Kosh B'Gosh at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM (63Dwl)

338 Why Dolley felt the need to spend thousands of dollars to essentially change the color of the floor in the bathrooms, I don't think I will ever understand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Maybe you should have done a better job cleaning up after yourself.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM (9yWhg)

339 You will just have to accept that some people who support trump do so with reservations and are not quite as possessed with Trump enthusiasm as some of you are.
Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (KRtlO)

It's pure pragmatism in these quarters for Trump.
The GOP is all about surrender 24/7/365.
The GOP invented and perfected Failure Theater.
The GOP has no hill, ever, to die on....with the exception of a grift that may be cut short.
Trump fights. He chooses too many losers and backstabbers but Trump is Always facing forward --against the mortal enemies of the Constitution.
Trump chooses to fight...imperfectly. But he fights. He instinctively fights.
We--some of us--choose to fight with him.
There is no place else and no one else willing and able that matters who is able to fight the enemies of America the way Trump fights.

Posted by: Voter theater. at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM (zE1wq)

340 I am saying that anyone who continues insisting that Trump is perfect, and who, further, attempts to bully everyone else into repeating this catechism, is a cultist.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (KRtlO)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So what's the word for someone so bitter that they continuously throw shots at the guy, completely off topic, just to troll his own readers ?

You see, that's what this bullshit is:

...Jackson is probing the list argument that the president is not listed expressly. She is asking why Trump is not pushing that argument harder.

Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people.

Especially when that assertion is patently FALSE. Nevermind that some of these "terrible" hires were not considered "terrible" until their true allegiance to the Deep State was uncovered. Guys like John Bolton. People loved John Bolton. Now, he's just one of Trump's "bad hires".

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM (OeYsY)

341 My niece is married to a construction worker who openly carries even on the job. His crew just finished my new porch. We were chatting about political shit and he threw out an interesting tidbit. There is an underground facility somewhere in Washington State that is full of millions of pounds of cheese. Our tax dollars are paying for this facility. I said, dammit too bad it isn't near DC. We could call in an air strike with limited nuke capabilities and get rid of two huge wastes of money at the same time. He laughed and said if DC disappeared in a nuclear fondue fountain he would die laughing and happy. I agree. It would be the most "America" thing ever.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM (cRrcX)

342 Then he just threw it aside and went full retard.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:15 PM (dhhKu)

You make a compelling and airtight case.

I now agree with everything you say.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM (9ud8w)

343 Maybe Trump's lawyers chose not to include that point in order to give left-wing judges an occasion to snub them (and Trump) by ... upholding this point.
Possibly, the president of the US cannot be guilty of insurrection, unless he is impeached in Congress for insurrection.

Posted by: PG at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM (gQbO4)

344 327 And by the way, ACB was another shitty pick. That lady is going full lib, especially on the post Bruen 2A appeals.


I warned you! I warned you guys!

we're probably going to end up with a lot of females vs males USSC rulings

and we have to hope Roberts doesn't go tranny

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (AcWfM)

345 So you gonna kick folks out over a "meaningless joke"?
Sounds harsh, but you're the boss here and I'm a guest.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:16 PM

I am not speaking for Ace, but I don't think he was alluding to you.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (4p0Xq)

346 Yea this douchenozzle probably got the short straw. Or he's so disliked around the office, they thought they'd play to his ego as a joke on him.
Posted by: Minnfidel

I go with the young, foolish, and full of themselves view. Great way to jack your law career - had to get schooled by the Supreme Court and made an ass of yourself.

Posted by: Cheri at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (oiNtH)

347 She demanded to know, from me, if they were going to leave that ugly line along the bottom of the bathtub.

Like I've ever torn up and replaced a floor before.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (GBKbO)
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LOL.

Is the new floor of the same, lower or higher absolute height/thickness as compared to the old floor? If it's the same or higher, the "ugly line" will probably not be visible. If it's lower, it probably will be and there's also probably no way to remove the mark without replacing or refacing the tub.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (yjAVs)

348 If you think back to the days before Trump was elected in 2016, you might remember that some folks still thought he wasn't serious about running, many thought Trump knew he was going to lose.

The process of filling hundreds of appointed positions isn't easy. First you do have to "hanger-ons" that what jobs they aren't qualified to ever hold (think George Conway as Solicitor General) those jobs. Then you have a population of folks from DC. If you have never dealt with DC, you don't really understand what the 'swamp" really is. Simply, it's a company town and the company is "governmental activities". All the Democrats know the Republicans and the Republicans know all of the Democrats .. which explains the UniParty. There are separate "camps" till you get out of town as far as West Virginia.

Posted by: SMOD at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (RHGPo)

349 329 275 I'll say goodbye to the folks, dust off my shoes and coat, take my suitcase and mosey on out.
AND I'm no Trump Robot. I take offense to that, ACE. If you read my comments, you'd know better.

I hope you won't make it permanent.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Very rough week for Jim. Prayers to him and his family for his loss of his wife.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (jxAhR)

Look, when I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll admit it. I found no offense in my statement. To be singled-out for a factually true statement to a posted comment that I didn't see as a "meaningless joke" seems rather harsh, but as I said, I'm just a guest here, and abide here under the temperament and graciousness of our host. If he no longer wants me here, I'm fine with leaving you, almost 20 years here be damned.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

350 Hiya Piper !

Posted by: JT at February 08, 2024 02:21 PM (T4tVD)

351 And by the way, ACB was another shitty pick. That lady is going full lib, especially on the post Bruen 2A appeals.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (dhhKu)
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Ya, see. I'm not going to hang a pick that a lot of people wanted to see for SCOTUS on Trump just because he agreed to it.

Trump tried to serve conservatives by going off of some list of candidates a large enough group of conservatives said they wanted.

But, notwithstanding, you can bet there were picks which were a. lot. worse.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:21 PM (krQz2)

352 Trump is an egotistical blowhard who sometimes does stupid shit that pisses me off and I’ll crawl over broken glass to vote for him.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 08, 2024 02:21 PM (u73oe)

353 345 So you gonna kick folks out over a "meaningless joke"?
Sounds harsh, but you're the boss here and I'm a guest.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:16 PM

I am not speaking for Ace, but I don't think he was alluding to you.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (4p0Xq)

Yet it was my comment he quoted.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:22 PM (ynpvh)

354 347 Is the new floor of the same, lower or higher absolute height/thickness as compared to the old floor? If it's the same or higher, the "ugly line" will probably not be visible. If it's lower, it probably will be and there's also probably no way to remove the mark without replacing or refacing the tub.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (yjAVs)

=======

I think it's a line of glue from the previous floor. It will most likely be covered. I trust these guys to do work that won't leave her pissed.

And then she asked me if they would install a new toilet. How am I supposed to know that? I swear...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 08, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

355 I'm not going to be subjected to Message Conformity Policing on my own blog.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:08 PM (KRtlO)


right on!

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 02:22 PM (V13WU)

356 And in these comments I see General Mattis and Jeff Sessions are two more people that people respected that are now just "more incompetent Trump hires"

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:22 PM (OeYsY)

357 343 Maybe Trump's lawyers chose not to include that point in order to give left-wing judges an occasion to snub them (and Trump) by ... upholding this point.
Possibly, the president of the US cannot be guilty of insurrection, unless he is impeached in Congress for insurrection.
Posted by: PG

I like the way you think, but if I ever got charged with a crime I would not hire you as my defense attorney.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (y5D4X)

358 Democrat from Colorado Springs. Wanted $8.50/year for each pet, up to $25 per pet/year if no plans filed with the state for guardianship if the owner can't care for the pet anymore.

And yes, pet fish were included.


Posted by: William

Better hope your guppies don't have a hatch just before the gestapo, oh sorry, inspectors visit for a pet count...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (7nRFT)

359 Hey. Aren't we s'possed to have three names?

Posted by: Elena Kagan & Wiseass Latina at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (w/0A+)

360 Jim please please stay!!!!

I am sorry you were targeted what a shame

I will apologize to you - I feel very very sorry

I hope you are well and hanging in there

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (AcWfM)

361 >> Like seriously you have readers who disagree with you about every possible subject. We're mostly not homogenous, that's what makes it a cool place to shoot the shit.


it's not the disagreement, it's the speech patrolling.

I have to repeat: A throwaway line is literally a throwaway. It means nothing. I have no investment in it, as I did not even spend a full second thinking about it.

The problem is not disagreement with the line. It's a stupid joke, it meant nothing. The problem is the consistent How Dare You kind of bullshit. The problem isn't whether the statement is right or wrong (and I do have to object to even calling it a statement, it's literally nothing), it's whether I have the right to say it without getting an hour's worth of grief by people who are plainly attempting to enforce a speech code on the site, and frankly have been for YEARS now.

The statement was LITERALLY NOTHING. It was a dumb thing said to fill up some pixels. But we're now in Hour Two of the Investigation into whether or not people are allowed to say Literal Nothings like this if they're not sufficiently praising of Trump.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (KRtlO)

362 358 Democrat from Colorado Springs. Wanted $8.50/year for each pet, up to $25 per pet/year if no plans filed with the state for guardianship if the owner can't care for the pet anymore.

And yes, pet fish were included.


Posted by: William

Better hope your guppies don't have a hatch just before the gestapo, oh sorry, inspectors visit for a pet count...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (7nRFT)

Canoe accident on the lake.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (ynpvh)

363 So, let's talk something not so spicy. Ronna McDaniel staying at RNC? WTF over?
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:12 PM (xhfG9)

If I recall the comment correctly, she said that a decision would be made after the SC primary.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (uvymP)

364 The main argument in this case is that Congress has never passed any rules or procedures relative to the insurrection clause. A state court or bureaucracy cannot then take action before congressional action. Therefore the actions taken by Colo, and by extension Maine and any other state , are voud

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (EeR8D)

365 What if your gerbil gets uh....stuck? Do you still have to register it?

Posted by: Richard Gere in CO at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (ibTVg)

366 356 And in these comments I see General Mattis and Jeff Sessions are two more people that people respected that are now just "more incompetent Trump hires"

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:22 PM (OeYsY)

I don't get it - people in contact with Trump go nuts. Mattis went on to claim that "America First" as a policy was "un-Amercan."

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:24 PM (xhfG9)

367 Seems we have seen the Cultural Marxists judges arguing against their veiw only to rule for their view

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2024 02:24 PM (fwDg9)

368 Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (KRtlO)

Understood, my friend.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:24 PM (oNgxs)

369
Competence against the current is not the same things as competence with the current.

Right?

It's the pressure of siding with Emmanuel Goldstein Trump which breaks people quicker and more thoroughly.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:24 PM (krQz2)

370 I just want to say for the record that I appreciate Ace, the co-blogs and the Horde. Clearly, we don't always agree. But more often we do. Either way, that's life. In the meanwhile, the posts are engaging, the comments are entertaining and the interwebs are better for it. At least we're not debating Taylor Swift's snizz.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at February 08, 2024 02:24 PM (AD14M)

371
And then she asked me if they would install a new toilet. How am I supposed to know that? I swear...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Had a floor put in here, I bought a toilet and they installed it after doing the floor for an additional fee.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:24 PM (7nRFT)

372 I don't think it is arguable that Trump's worst hire was Wray.

But let's be honest, there are almost zero people who have been in government who truly want to shrink government and dismantle the bureaucracy/deep state.

Barr was supposed to be this crazed right winger who was engaging in crazy legal theories making Trump a dictator.

Then 2020 happened and he was just like the rest of them.

Posted by: Jay in PA at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM (i7Q7S)

373 If I recall the comment correctly, she said that a decision would be made after the SC primary.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (uvymP)

I just love the passive voice.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM (xhfG9)

374 Void not voud

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM (EeR8D)

375 Was Haley an incompetent hire? She seemed to do a good job at the United Nations. In retrospect she may be an example of a good employee but a very bad leader.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (PmqP5)

It was also a fairly good place to put her since it's pretty inconsequential.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM (uvymP)

376 Look, when I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll admit it. I found no offense in my statement. To be singled-out for a factually true statement to a posted comment that I didn't see as a "meaningless joke" seems rather harsh, but as I said, I'm just a guest here, and abide here under the temperament and graciousness of our host. If he no longer wants me here, I'm fine with leaving you, almost 20 years here be damned.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Understood. Did not intend to mean that your original post lacked justification.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM (jxAhR)

377 Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (4p0Xq)

Yet it was my comment he quoted.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:22 PM

Sorry, missed that in the hubub. Don't worry about it. He was making a point and you yours. He's a kind and benevolant Ewok I believe. Stick around for more fun!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM (4p0Xq)

378 To be singled-out for a factually true statement to a posted comment that I didn't see as a "meaningless joke" seems rather harsh, but as I said, I'm just a guest here, and abide here under the temperament and graciousness of our host.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

You are not being singled out. I think you are mistaken. He used your anodyne comment as one example of many.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM (gSZYf)

379 Wray was Christie's fault, right?

who is btw threatening to reenter the race as an indy or some such

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (AcWfM)

380 360 Jim please please stay!!!!

I am sorry you were targeted what a shame

I will apologize to you - I feel very very sorry

I hope you are well and hanging in there

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (AcWfM)

Not shamed for being targetted, just a bit upset that I'm being pegged as a problem for what I deemed a truthful, inoffensive comment that our host took mighty offense over. Again, not my house, not my rules. If I'm booted, I'm booted.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (ynpvh)

381 "I like the way you think, but if I ever got charged with a crime I would not hire you as my defense attorney."

You'd better hope I'm the prosecutor!

Posted by: PG at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (gQbO4)

382 And in these comments I see General Mattis and Jeff Sessions are two more people that people respected that are now just "more incompetent Trump hires"

I mean, Mattis in particular had a heel turn you could see from space. Something about MAGA being anti-American or something.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (2ocoG)

383
Guys like John Bolton. People loved John Bolton. Now, he's just one of Trump's "bad hires".

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM

Truth me told, at the time I thought John Bolton was a good choice. Not sure what he said or did that made him a bad hire.

I usually have a decent crystal ball and hated both McCain and Romney. I like DeSantis down the road. But seeing people go NT after his defeat is a whole lot more then a little disconcerting.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (nIvob)

384 Let me just say, for the record, that I despise all politicians with the burning white-hot intensity of a thousand suns


they are, by nature and necessity, duplicitous and avaricious

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (geLO8)

385 I just watched a clip of Erin Burnett interviewing (more like fellating) Zelensky, and all I could think was...

Pie Disposal Unit Erin Burnett.
Pie Disposal Unit Erin Burnett.

Posted by: PabloD at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (bBWBE)

386 And for the fucking record,

"But NeverTrump is going to NeverTrump, I guess."

Is no less a tongue in cheek joke than is

"Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people."

Please stop crying about "Message Conformity Policing" over a throwaway joke about your shitty throwaway joke.

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (OeYsY)

387 Trump has the uncanny ability to either massively underestimate someone or overestimate someone. The staff picks he personally chose illustrate this. Not all of them, but many. He's doing it still with the DA's, the judges and special council hounding him in various legal suits. Those cases may very well be without merit, but I doubt that matters anymore.

As others have noted, not every pick for his administration was his own. I would have thought the vetting processes would have been better.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (Q4IgG)

388 Is Joe going to say something bizarre and threatening about the Supreme Court?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (O9EMC)

389 Jim, how did yesterday go?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (KbCG3)

390 I just love the passive voice.
Posted by: blaster


The passive voice is loved by me, also.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (9yWhg)

391 jim (in Kalifornia), my thoughts are with you.

The Trump wars are never fun around here. Take a break, if needed and come back. From my perspective, you would be missed.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (i24o9)

392 It was also a fairly good place to put her since it's pretty inconsequential.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM

Trump should offer her a job as ambassador to Luxemburg.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (4p0Xq)

393 >>If I recall the comment correctly, she said that a decision would be made after the SC primary.

Supposedly it was a letter she sent to donors. Could be nothing more than calming the waters before SC.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (LkLld)

394 The problem is Trump. Not the swamp, not that people are attacking him, not that he's been poisoned by unicorn farts. It's his shitty, egotistical stroking way of thinking about things. It's a personal flaw.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (dhhKu)

Yes, he has the personal flaws. But you have to remember he's trying to select people to go against the uni-party's agenda. there aren't a lot of great, well known people out there that are willing or able to do that. Particularly if they want to seek further, higher office in the future, which most do. AND whoever he picks has to get confirmed, which makes it even harder.

And that would be true for anyone who would pursue an agenda similar to Trump's.

I'm not excusing Trump's bad choices, just putting them into context. I imagine the pool he has to pick appointees from is pretty small compared to other Presidents (who would follow the uni-party's bidding).

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (ky+MF)

395
Canoe accident on the lake.
Posted by: jim

Yeah, oh no mr inspector, those aren't my cats and dogs they're feral.
There are going to be packs of dogs running through CO soon.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:28 PM (7nRFT)

396 I don't think it is arguable that Trump's worst hire was Wray.

Wray probably does get the top spot. Amy Barrett may yet turn out to be more damaging to the country though.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:28 PM (2ocoG)

397 In retrospect, we could have seen from Mattis' reading list that he wasn't nearly the man his quotability made him appear to be... but I'm at a loss as to who SHOULD have had that appointment over the guy who framed his whole public image around "America Should Win Wars" instead.

Posted by: American Hawkman at February 08, 2024 02:28 PM (skAOD)

398 379 Wray was Christie's fault, right?

who is btw threatening to reenter the race as an indy or some such
Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (AcWfM)

Without suddenly jumping to ace's side, saying that Wray was Christie's fault is not a great defense of Trump.

Wray was Trump's fault. 100%. He's the guy who made the appointment. Not Christie. Not anyone else.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:28 PM (xhfG9)

399 I mean, Mattis in particular had a heel turn you could see from space. Something about MAGA being anti-American or something.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (2ocoG)
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So did Mulvaney, who was one of my favorite Trump operators. He was a bureaucrat's bureaucrat, and knew how to play the game. His plan for agency for reform was quite good.

Then he went nuts post-election, too.

What I don't know is how many of Trump's apparently good picks - like Mulvaney, Pompeo and Mattis - were always on the fence but giving their best, or extremely skilled malefactors, or went crazy post-election, or were threatened big time into stabbing him in the back, or what. I can't suss it out.

The number of what appear to be hard turns post-Administration is like nothing I've seen.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:28 PM (yjAVs)

400 I don't get it - people in contact with Trump go nuts. Mattis went on to claim that "America First" as a policy was "un-Amercan."

Posted by: blaster

I would suggest checking out the elite vs commoner survey done by Rassmussen. Text is here http://tinyurl.com/mujzmpz6

Simply put, the elites don't believe in America First, a republic, nor any sort of restrained government that can even trample on constitutional rights as the elites see fit.

Those elites are bipartisan and centered around the Ivy League and its expansion franchises such as Stanford, Univ. of Chicago, etc.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (jxAhR)

401 341 My niece is married to a construction worker who openly carries even on the job. His crew just finished my new porch. We were chatting about political shit and he threw out an interesting tidbit. There is an underground facility somewhere in Washington State that is full of millions of pounds of cheese. Our tax dollars are paying for this facility. I said, dammit too bad it isn't near DC. We could call in an air strike with limited nuke capabilities and get rid of two huge wastes of money at the same time. He laughed and said if DC disappeared in a nuclear fondue fountain he would die laughing and happy. I agree. It would be the most "America" thing ever.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM (cRrcX)

Why would you nuke cheese?

Have you no decency?!?

Posted by: You can's just stop the funding, but the cheese is cheese at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (UMHqX)

402 jim in california - don't you dare go anywhere. For sure, not now. Not now.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (SfhV1)

403 So even if Trump wins here, depending on the statements written by the 4 or so leftist justices, this can be used to again hamstring his presidency, as they'll try to block every appointment he makes as being someone who was an insurrectionist, despite never being charged.

Posted by: Rbastid at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (ZpVYH)

404 if someone came in here objecting to any slightly negative reference to gay people, you'd see how TEDIOUS this was, and you would object to the constant MONITORING of other people's most minor statements for ideological compliance.

But some of you are doing the same thing with Trump, where not even the most minor (and zero-effort) statement can be said about Trump without SJW dogpiling.

People need to be allowed to breathe when they're speaking. Not every single tiny "offense" needs to be treated as a federal offense. And that's true of gays and it's equally true of Trump.

Can anything be just LET GO, or am I going to have to ban Right Wing SJWs so that the rest of us can just speak without the constant surveillance and ideological enforcement?

I cannot stress how incredibly little I meant by my line.

I feel like I'm arguing with autistic people who cannot tell the difference between an inconsequential jibe and a seriously-intended, thoughtfully-argued proposition.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)

405 And then she asked me if they would install a new toilet. How am I supposed to know that? I swear...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Wouldn't you kind of know that *BEFORE* the contractors start the work?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (7fElN)

406 The bill for a CO pet tax has been shelved...for now. The backlash has been so great from the left and right. Have a dog and they want to tax you $8.50 a year, maybe that is not such a big deal but....if you have an aquarium with 50 fish, each one would be $8.50 at $450 a year and also have a designated care giver, etc. Big fines if you don't register and pay. Also all pets would be subject to this including reptiles, rats, hamsters, etc. They only excuse livestock. They are insane and trying to throw everything they can against the wall to increase taxes.

Posted by: Cheri at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (oiNtH)

407
Arguing with the host. What a shitshow.


One day Ace will close up shop and then where are you degenerates going?

Posted by: four seasons at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (PisyI)

408 The plan is to decertify electors. It always has been. they tried to do it in 2016 but failed. Now they'll just have to accuse an elector of participating in Jan 6th as an excuse to disqualify them.
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I did think I heard CO try to walk back that they are not disqualifying Trump-- they're merely limiting who their electors can vote for; and they cannot vote for Trump.

See? That's totally not the same as disqualifying him.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (cSaKW)

409 All of this was a gift to Trump. Democrats overstepped on everything and a unanimous Supreme Court decision looks likely imo.

He can forever hang his hat on this when his legal problems are brought up.

Posted by: Blago at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (pogwM)

410 Guys like John Bolton. People loved John Bolton. Now, he's just one of Trump's "bad hires".

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:19 PM
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A lot of us used to settle for Bush.

We don't want to settle for Bush and Rove and Cheney any more.

What the Republicans have proven since the "Tea Party" is that we CANNOT "work within the Republican party", like some of us took for granted.

How "incompetent" does that make any of us?

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (krQz2)

411
Wray was Trump's fault. 100%. He's the guy who made the appointment. Not Christie. Not anyone else.
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:28 PM (xhfG9)

With a dash of Turtle McConnell thrown in....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (Akjoo)

412 Will all the legal "geniuses" who filed amicus briefs on behalf of CO suffer any real consequences? They look stupid already after questions. How stupid will they look after a unanimous verdict against CO?

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (sjdRT)

413 What I don't know is how many of Trump's apparently good picks - like Mulvaney, Pompeo and Mattis - were always on the fence but giving their best, or extremely skilled malefactors, or went crazy post-election, or were threatened big time into stabbing him in the back, or what. I can't suss it out.


they are citizens in good standing of the Government. we are outside of that - we are helots.

thats all it is. pompeo and Mattis are loyal to their Crown and King - FedGov

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (AcWfM)

414 Jason Murray looks like xe is halfway through transition.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (3vCGB)

415 We're mostly not homogenous,

-
Who you calling a homogenous?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (FVME7)

416 Wray was Christie's fault, right?

who is btw threatening to reenter the race as an indy or some such
Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM

He's just trying to get the ambassador gig at Golden Corral.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (4p0Xq)

417 378 To be singled-out for a factually true statement to a posted comment that I didn't see as a "meaningless joke" seems rather harsh, but as I said, I'm just a guest here, and abide here under the temperament and graciousness of our host.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

You are not being singled out. I think you are mistaken. He used your anodyne comment as one example of many.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM (gSZYf)

That may indeed. be the case, CBD. Regardless, I should be focussing on more pressing tasks at hand, like continuing to clean out my wife's stuff. I may be out for a while in any case to calm down.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

418 I imagine ace isn't gonna like me saying this in case it's undermining his general message but if you've been here long enough, you know there's Days to Fuck Around With Ace and Days Not to Fuck Around With Ace. He doesn't make it into a guessing game either. Ace is a swell dude and I love everything about his little corner of the internet. Except CBD.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (oNgxs)

419 Why would you nuke cheese?

To create a glowing radioactive fondue over DC? Does not that question answer itself?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (PmqP5)

420 > Is Joe going to say something bizarre and threatening about the Supreme Court?


how they're all MAGA puppets and present a threat to democracy?

probably

although it's mid afternoon in DC, he probably has shambled off the to the private residence by now, in his robe, watching Matlock

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (geLO8)

421 Everyone went nuts right around the whole Epstein Fiasco broke.

Give or take.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 02:31 PM (9UlRk)

422 It seems the prediction is possibly 8-1, since everyone assumes Sotomayor may vote against, as she is possibly the dumbest human to ever wear any type of robe.

Posted by: Rbastid at February 08, 2024 02:31 PM (ZpVYH)

423 There is an underground facility somewhere in Washington State that is full of millions of pounds of cheese.

Aging nicely, along with the National Red Wine Depository.

Posted by: Auspex at February 08, 2024 02:31 PM (j4U/Z)

424 there aren't a lot of great, well known people out there that are willing or able to do that.

...

I think Alex the Chick is well known, enough.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 08, 2024 02:31 PM (z/ifB)

425 That may indeed. be the case, CBD. Regardless, I should be focussing on more pressing tasks at hand, like continuing to clean out my wife's stuff. I may be out for a while in any case to calm down.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

I'm thinking of you

Posted by: It's me donna at February 08, 2024 02:31 PM (Akjoo)

426 Who you calling a homogenous?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (FVME7)

Alan Turing?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 02:31 PM (9UlRk)

427 I should add the latter Days are quite rare, like once a year.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (oNgxs)

428 ok let me cheer things up

I give you - Wil Wheaton's treatise on Larry David vs Elmo! (delete the space)
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And after what that dick did to Dr Sheldon Cooper, over and over again!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (2yu8s)

429 Jesus, help me.
The whinging.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (ufFY8)

430 they are citizens in good standing of the Government. we are outside of that - we are helots.

thats all it is. pompeo and Mattis are loyal to their Crown and King - FedGov
Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (AcWfM)
++++
I suspect so, yes. They appeared to do good work, though, until the end. I don't know how to classify them. Best case, they saw personal benefit in doing a good job. Worst case, they were always malefactors and operated with tremendous skill so as to appear to be moving the ball down the field while actually throwing it the wrong direction.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (yjAVs)

431 Did NOT see Gen. Mattis as being a miserable failure when he was announced, or expect Jeff Sessions to be the disaster that he was, for example.
Posted by: American Hawkman at February 08, 2024 02:17 PM (skAOD)

Nobody thought Bolton was going to be bad.
Nobody thought Barr was going to be bad.
Nobody thought...

In hindsight most of them were shit and I, personally and without evidence, suspect Pence's hand (another guy nobody thought was going to be horrible) in a lot of it. He was, after all, instrumental in getting rid of Flynn.

I'd like to see Trump make DeSantis AG. He has experience at the DOJ and could make cleaning up that cesspit, assuming he could be confirmed, a big point in his campaign in '28.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (uvymP)

432 I feel like I'm arguing with autistic people who cannot tell the difference between an inconsequential jibe and a seriously-intended, thoughtfully-argued proposition.
Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)

Hey now I have two autistic kids this is really offensive.


ITS A JOKE!

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (xhfG9)

433 370 I just want to say for the record that I appreciate Ace, the co-blogs and the Horde. Clearly, we don't always agree. But more often we do. Either way, that's life. In the meanwhile, the posts are engaging, the comments are entertaining and the interwebs are better for it. At least we're not debating Taylor Swift's snizz.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at February 08, 2024 02:24 PM (AD14M)

Where da white women ???

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (TTAGa)

434 These legal geniuses sure know how to invert the truth.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (MeG8a)

435 I may be out for a while in any case to calm down.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (ynpvh)


Still keeping you in my prayers.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (SfhV1)

436 If Trump isn't in jail or dead and elections are allowed, I'm voting for him. Not because I like him or his ideas but because everyone thinks he can get us out if this mess. Maybe just thinking that will be enough of a push to get things started going the right way. I have my doubts because I think things are going to be in chaos and it might bring the burning times.

Posted by: Megthered at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (w7l7U)

437
Is Joe going to say something bizarre and threatening about the Supreme Court?
Posted by: Northernlurker

He was just talking to Earl Warren about this upcoming ruling.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 08, 2024 02:32 PM (63Dwl)

438 >>> I don't think it is arguable that Trump's worst hire was Wray.

I mean Mattis... Bolton...

You know, he let CHRIS CHRISTIE oversee the staffing of the entire federal government, right?

I've said this before, but go on Amazon. Look for Bret Decker (or Dekker, not sure). "The Case for Trump," cowritten with Phyllis Shaffley.

He was a foreign policy guy at the WSJ and very pro trump (and EARLY on the Trump train).

He tried to get some job in State or something, like as a spokesman.

He let the person interviewing him know, "I wrote the Case for Trump, literally, so I'm sympatico with his foreign policy world view."

He was told: "THAT WILL BE A NEGATIVE AS FAR AS GETTING A JOB."

Chris Christie hired a bunch of GOPe liberals to be the main people hiring for all the positions, and they actively kept out pro-Trump people.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (KRtlO)

439 If not Trump? Who?

Willard the Rat Romney?
Glitch McConnell?
Senator Lankford?

How about we just remember who the real enemy are?

Starting with Spongebrain Shitz Pantz!

Posted by: rd at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (fFZ0X)

440 I suggest that the Trump brouhaha has reached the stage where everyone is repeating themselves. Perhaps we should all just take a break from it.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (CsUN+)

441 What a menagerie these boxes are.

There are a million stories in the naked blog....

Recent loss of spouse
Will the toilet be installed
Will ace and jim mend their relationship
It's not "how" are Trump's hires, but "why" are Trump's hires
Colorado guppies to be taxes at $9 per

Tune in next post to see.....
How the world turns.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (y5D4X)

442 What I don't know is how many of Trump's apparently good picks - like Mulvaney, Pompeo and Mattis - were always on the fence but giving their best, or extremely skilled malefactors, or went crazy post-election, or were threatened big time into stabbing him in the back, or what. I can't suss it out.

The number of what appear to be hard turns post-Administration is like nothing I've seen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Simply put, appointees make a living in DC and cannot afford to be out of favor with the apparatchiks that live there. Being able to turn a stint in an administration into gold is why they are upset at Trump for harming their market value.

Basically, Prezzie is/was an elected emperor of the Western World sort of like the Holy Roman Emperor and as a result, we have a complicated bureaucracy that will sacrifice American interests for those of the empire and the same for our 'allies' in the West. So you get something like court politics with courtiers vying for favor and fortune.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (jxAhR)

443 Will all the legal "geniuses" who filed amicus briefs on behalf of CO suffer any real consequences? They look stupid already after questions. How stupid will they look after a unanimous verdict against CO?
Posted by: Muad'dib at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM

It's like the bogus Mann lawsuit. The suit itself was not the main goal. Same with this bullshit. It's an attempt to delegitimize a candidate. I don't think they ever believed it would come to anything. It's like all the other bullshit cases being thrown at him.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (4p0Xq)

444 What I don't know is how many of Trump's apparently good picks - like Mulvaney, Pompeo and Mattis - were always on the fence but giving their best, or extremely skilled malefactors, or went crazy post-election, or were threatened big time into stabbing him in the back, or what. I can't suss it out.

The number of what appear to be hard turns post-Administration is like nothing I've seen.

I think it's probably some of each, but I agree in general. It's absolutely unprecedented how many people turned on him later. I do think Kari Lake's bribe tape is a helpful clue though.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (2ocoG)

445 The problem is Trump. Not the swamp, not that people are attacking him, not that he's been poisoned by unicorn farts. It's his shitty, egotistical stroking way of thinking about things. It's a personal flaw.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:11 PM (dhhKu)
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Yeah, the Swamp is not the problem--TRUMP WAS SUPPOSED TO DRAIN IT!!! HOWCUM HE NO DRAIN IT??!!!

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (krQz2)

446 298 This redhead in sleepwear doesn't want to disappoint Bulgaroctonus:
http://tiny.cc/kkmpwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:13 PM (yjAVs)
______

I like. Reminds me a little of Apollonia Vitelli Corleone. Which is a good thing to do.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (1bNHn)

447 Eh, criticize Trump all you want, he often deserves it, and he often receives it from just about everybody including the so-called far-right (of which constitutionalists are lumped in with that enormous and ever-growing group). I'd hate to be a lefty for whom it is required that they twist themselves in knots to support everything Biden (or Obama, or Pelosi, etc.) does in order to keep their good standing with their group. Though, it's probably much easier for them, since the free thinking part of their brain is vastly under-developed compared to normal people.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (fs1hN)

448 I have a very hard time believing Justice Jackson will side with Trump, despite the questions.

She was just looking for answers to refute the argument she raised which will be put into her opinion.
Posted by: Jay in PA at February 08, 2024 02:18 PM (i7Q7S)

Someone earlier suggested that she wouldn't want to be the lone outlier. I could see that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (uvymP)

449 That may indeed. be the case, CBD. Regardless, I should be focussing on more pressing tasks at hand, like continuing to clean out my wife's stuff. I may be out for a while in any case to calm down.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

I am so sorry, Jim.

Posted by: Piper at February 08, 2024 02:34 PM (ZdaMQ)

450 I imagine ace isn't gonna like me saying this in case it's undermining his general message but if you've been here long enough, you know there's Days to Fuck Around With Ace and Days Not to Fuck Around With Ace. He doesn't make it into a guessing game either. Ace is a swell dude and I love everything about his little corner of the internet. Except CBD.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:30 PM (oNgxs)

------------

FAFA (Fuck Around and Find Ace).

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 08, 2024 02:34 PM (z/7Ah)

451 Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people.

—

Hard to find competent lawyers willing to represent him. It means their future careers could be destroyed.

Posted by: Montec at February 08, 2024 02:34 PM (YofvK)

452 I may be out for a while in any case to calm down.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Take care and we'll be looking forward to your return.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:34 PM (7nRFT)

453 421 Everyone went nuts right around the whole Epstein Fiasco broke.

Give or take.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 02:31 PM (9UlRk)

***phew***

Looks like we're off the hook

Posted by: C.E.R.N. Laboratories at February 08, 2024 02:34 PM (TTAGa)

454 How about a "do carrots belong in chili" debate

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 08, 2024 02:34 PM (EeR8D)

455 DeSantis would be an AWESOME AG, I think. He seems to have a head for lawfare that someone in that position needs to succeed.

Posted by: American Hawkman at February 08, 2024 02:34 PM (skAOD)

456 TRUMP!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 08, 2024 02:34 PM (++4z6)

457 Wonder what Achorbabe's soap floozies are wearing today.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 02:34 PM (9yWhg)

458 timidly raises hand*

Um, orange is not my color. Also, I don't want to be in a cult.
Posted by: you do NOT want to see pookysgirl in orange at February 08, 2024 01:55 PM (dtlDP)

In other news, Big Tit Donna was in a white getup. Better than orange would be.

I made a mistake yesterday. I thought she was married the Geezer Eric. I was wrong. He was just fucking her. Today he proposed to her, so they decided to get married right then and there to make it kosher, I guess, before he croaks?

The other Tit Sisters were in attendance.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM (ufFY8)

459 Here's the possibly disturbing thing - all the people who seemed to be solid prior to coming into Trump's orbit have one thing in common - Trump.



Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM (xhfG9)

460 All of this was a gift to Trump. Democrats overstepped on everything and a unanimous Supreme Court decision looks likely imo.

He can forever hang his hat on this when his legal problems are brought up.

Concur.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM (CsUN+)

461 TBF, it's a ridiculous case, so who would want to have to argue it?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 01:39 PM

Yea this douchenozzle probably got the short straw. Or he's so disliked around the office, they thought they'd play to his ego as a joke on him.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 01:41 PM (4p0Xq)

But yet, he will now be able to state on his resume that he's argued a case before the SCOTUS.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM (BdMk6)

462 Basically, Prezzie is/was an elected emperor of the Western World sort of like the Holy Roman Emperor and as a result, we have a complicated bureaucracy that will sacrifice American interests for those of the empire and the same for our 'allies' in the West. So you get something like court politics with courtiers vying for favor and fortune.
Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (jxAhR)
++++
Sort of. The analogy basically works, but in a true courtly system, most of the complicated and dishonorable bureaucracy plays its complicated and dishonorable games on behalf (and for the benefit) of the emperor.

Here, it's on behalf (and for the benefit) of the Party.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM (yjAVs)

463 or were threatened big time into stabbing him in the back, or what. I can't suss it out.

Gov Kemp was pretty pro-Trump then his staffer dies in a burning car explosion and he hates Trump...

Hard not to see patterns like this.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM (ibTVg)

464 Chris Christie hired a bunch of GOPe liberals to be the main people hiring for all the positions, and they actively kept out pro-Trump people.
Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM

I never knew that. Damn. I hate that fat fuck buffet rat even more now. Fuck that guy.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (4p0Xq)

465 > The number of what appear to be hard turns post-Administration is like nothing I've seen.
____________

Most, if not all of those people were politicos or had their eyes on being lobbyists. Neither of which they'd be permitted to do if they remained aligned with Trump.

It was, is, a matter of survival for them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (Q4IgG)

466 At least we're not debating Taylor Swift's snizz.

370 comments before a T Swift ref. Y'all are slipping.

Posted by: brak at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (AR07F)

467 457, 458

Horde Mind.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (ufFY8)

468 Ask for soap floozies and you shall receive.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (R4t5M)

469 sorry, it's The Conservative Case for Trump by Brett Decker, Phyllis Schaffley, and one other.

He told me this himself.

I know a lot of rightwing people who were shrieking during the 2017 transition that they were all being blocked from getting jobs. One big thing the liberal GOPers would do is to just put someone's resume on a shelf and claim it's being "considered," while meanwhile hiring liberals to fill every position that person had applied for. So when they finally fully "considred" the resume, they said "oh sorry, all those positions have been filled."

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (KRtlO)

470 Chris Christie hired a bunch of GOPe liberals to be the main people hiring for all the positions, and they actively kept out pro-Trump people.
Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (KRtlO)

Barr is a CIA man. Esper bragged about ignoring Trump's orders.

It's hard to pick the worst. If you count Fauci, who Trump continued to praise months after the rest of us knew who he was...

It's a long list.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (k2Nq8)

471 Ace, do a Monty Python:

"And now for something completely different..."

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (geLO8)

472 I feel like I'm arguing with autistic people who cannot tell the difference between an inconsequential jibe and a seriously-intended, thoughtfully-argued proposition.

This is, literally, the text-based world. The lack of context is legendary. It’s something we’ve known about at least since Lewis Carroll (see link in nic) and no real solution has been found other than tagging, which ruins the joke.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (PmqP5)

473 Ace is a swell dude and I love everything about his little corner of the internet. Except CBD.

Honestly, CBD is my spirit animal. Dude is *hilarious* on the CJN podcast, except for when he mutes himself. And he's rubbing off on Sefton, who's language has gotten notably more colorful.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (2ocoG)

474 A 9-0 win would perk up a lot of LIVs to the realization the left is regarded and going after him unjustly.

Posted by: Montec at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (YofvK)

475 "Will all the legal "geniuses" who filed amicus briefs on behalf of CO suffer any real consequences? They look stupid already after questions. How stupid will they look after a unanimous verdict against CO?
Posted by: Muad'dib "

====================

If Republicans have any spine, they would engage in lawfare against them. They should be disbarred and sued.

Posted by: Jay in PA at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (i7Q7S)

476 Someone earlier suggested that she wouldn't want to be the lone outlier. I could see that.
___

She's the lone representative of blacks on the court. She already is the outlier and she needs to maintain that position.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 08, 2024 02:37 PM (fs1hN)

477 Ace is a swell dude and I love everything about his little corner of the internet. Except CBD.

Well, sure, that's axiomatic.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 08, 2024 02:37 PM (CsUN+)

478 Here, it's on behalf (and for the benefit) of the Party.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM (yjAVs)

The Party is the true Emperor.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 08, 2024 02:37 PM (9UlRk)

479 Trump is pretty good. Trump is not perfect.

Most of all, Trump is the best we got right now.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 08, 2024 02:37 PM (KbCG3)

480 >>What I don't know is how many of Trump's apparently good picks - like Mulvaney, Pompeo and Mattis - were always on the fence but giving their best, or extremely skilled malefactors, or went crazy post-election, or were threatened big time into stabbing him in the back, or what. I can't suss it out.

Trump's best picks were guys like Mnuchin and Lighthizer, guys who Trump had long term relationships with in the finance world, who don't get talked about when people are complaining about Trump's pick because they did excellent work.

This is honestly a stupid complaint. Nobody complains about other presidents picks to anything close to this degree. The look at results and for all his "bad picks" Trump delivered. Again, people who don't like Trump rarely mention that either.

Trump has had time in the job and knows the players better and people now know he's not a Russian agent. Let's see how he does this time if he get elected.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2024 02:38 PM (LkLld)

481 My niece is married to a construction worker who openly carries even on the job.

-
Vermont Man Does The Meme, Stops Home Intruder With Muzzleloader

http://tinyurl.com/mr3ua27k

-
As the founders intended.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 08, 2024 02:38 PM (FVME7)

482 >>>How about a "do carrots belong in chili" debate

9-0 against

Posted by: Supreme Court of Everything at February 08, 2024 02:38 PM (CwhoI)

483 404 if someone came in here objecting to any slightly negative reference to gay people, you'd see how TEDIOUS this was, and you would object to the constant MONITORING of other people's most minor statements for ideological compliance.

But some of you are doing the same thing with Trump, where not even the most minor (and zero-effort) statement can be said about Trump without SJW dogpiling.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No, we're not. Literally do not come here to find BS about Trump. If we're finding it, its because you're just lazily putting it out there, completely unnecessarily.

I mean, seriously, was there no thought whatsoever given to the idea that this unnecessary line (also wrong in this case) would have this exact effect ? Or was that the intent ??

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:38 PM (OeYsY)

484 >370 comments before a T Swift ref. Y'all are slipping.


did you know that the Super Bowl will be the 13th Chiefs game she will have attended, AND, that her lucky number is...


13

#whoa #mindblown

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (geLO8)

485 But yet, he will now be able to state on his resume that he's argued a case before the SCOTUS.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM

True, but among lawyers he might become a punchline, no? Like Bill Buckner was to the Red Sox.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (4p0Xq)

486 I'm surprised at so many bickering about Trump's personnel picks. I'd guess that half of them had good track records and were cheered when selected, and then turned when they came face to face with the deep state. I think many people still don't understand just how big and dangerous that group is. Think about the potential son in law of Kemp.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (CeJN/)

487 How about a "do carrots belong in chili" debate

9-0 against
Posted by: Supreme Court of Everything
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What's a carrot? I'm not a botanist.

Posted by: KBJ at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (1eY81)

488 Before everyone pops the champagne bottles recall that all the “experts” were sure Obamacare was going to be overturned.

Posted by: Montec at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (YofvK)

489 >>>How about a "do carrots belong in chili" debate

9-0 against
Posted by: Supreme Court of Everything at February 08, 2024 02:38 PM (CwhoI)
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Ahh, but what about spaghetti? That absolutely belongs in chili.

Or, more accurately, chili belongs on it.

Posted by: Cincinnati at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (yjAVs)

490 Here's the possibly disturbing thing - all the people who seemed to be solid prior to coming into Trump's orbit have one thing in common - Trump.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM (xhfG9)

Another one of those things that Trump did: He allowed most of the snakes in his Administration to reveal who/what they are.

Basically, if ANY other Republican had been elected in '16, we still wouldn't know who they are.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (k2Nq8)

491 >>>439 If not Trump? Who?

This is autistic.

No one said We Want Romney. I accept Trump is the almost-certain nominee, barring some major event that derails him, and I support him.

Some, however, seem to be confusing support with complete REVERENCE.

Supporting Trump does NOT mean I forever commit to only speaking of him in glowing terms. I know some people want this, and this is their idea of "support." It's not mine, sorry.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (KRtlO)

492 Wray was Trump's fault. 100%. He's the guy who made the appointment. Not Christie. Not anyone else.
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:28 PM (xhfG9)

With a dash of Turtle McConnell thrown in....
Posted by: It's me donna at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM

========

How many were vetoed by McConnell and his minions?

"Nope! No way can I get 60 votes to confirm that man / woman."

Posted by: rd at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (fFZ0X)

493 I feel like I'm arguing with autistic people who cannot tell the difference between an inconsequential jibe and a seriously-intended, thoughtfully-argued proposition.

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)
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I'm a little bit on the spectrum.

But you should know that offhand comment was just flung right into the middle of Blago's daily billboard.

I made the suggestion I made about overselling valid points--which is moot since you explained it was an offhand comment.

This is the last thing I'm going to say on the subject.

Except is there someone else that out there that could pick better appointees for the Trump-opposition in DC?

Trump might be on the top-half of that scale.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (krQz2)

494 I think sometimes the progressive justices just ask a hard question of their side so they can accept it.

I think the disqualification question should be rejected simply because it’s bad politics and terrible optics. Still I will be surprised if the decision is unanimous. I expect at least two justices to say that progressive states can do as they please in the furtherance of the great task before them.

Posted by: Advo at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (XGWQW)

495 Yesterday I posted that I don't own an AR-15 and never wanted one. Until CA tried to ban them.
Similarly, if denied a choice of candidate, I want that candidate.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (MeG8a)

496 479 Trump is pretty good. Trump is not perfect.

Most of all, Trump is the best we got right now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 08, 2024 02:37 PM (KbCG3)

One goes to war with the Army at hand, not the Army of ones dreams

Posted by: Shit Napoleon Said at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (TTAGa)

497 I believe a rather forceful argument could be made the genesis of this case is due to Republicans weakness. Democrats saw that Republicans have not responded to much of their overreach because they're caitiffs. Look at July 6th, COVID, the border, the complete misuse of the administrative state, censorship, etc. what material things have Republicans done? They've mostly throw in with Democrats or consented by doing nothing and cowering in the corner. So given that, why would Democrats think they can arbitrarily keep Trump off the ballot or use law fare to achieve electoral corruption? This only stopped because the liberals on SCOTIS realize Democrats won't have a 1,000 Year Reich, and Republicans, especially in the states, can do the exact same thing and bring the entire system down in the process.

Weakness breeds contempt. Contempt further breeds destruction. Grow a fucking pair, Republicans.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (XASq/)

498 If I recall the comment correctly, she said that a decision would be made after the SC primary.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM (uvymP)

I just love the passive voice.
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:25 PM (xhfG9)

On subjects unrelated to horticulture, she seems a passive person.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (uvymP)

499 I think this is exhibit A of progressives loving the smell of their own farts.

Thye just live in such a bubble - half the things they think are obvious are in fact fantasy.

Posted by: Garbled memo at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (mvURQ)

500 409 All of this was a gift to Trump. Democrats overstepped on everything and a unanimous Supreme Court decision looks likely imo.

He can forever hang his hat on this when his legal problems are brought up.
Posted by: Blago at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (pogwM)

It’s an overstep until the DC court convicts him.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (YwyqV)

501 Going to be a 500 post, thread!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (7nRFT)

502 I do think Kari Lake's bribe tape is a helpful clue though.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (2ocoG)

Trump makes bad picks, to me = There are so many shitty, compromised people in government, that the ONLY way to limit damage is to drastically limit the size of government. Trump made that blindingly apparent.

That said, sure, Trump has his share of own goals. Who hasn't or wouldn't?

But I am sure your guy who wasted millions and whose only saving grace is he had the sense to drop after his Iowa loss would have a better record from the same establishment picks. Because that is not retarded.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (i24o9)

503 I know a lot of rightwing people who were shrieking during the 2017 transition that they were all being blocked from getting jobs. One big thing the liberal GOPers would do is to just put someone's resume on a shelf and claim it's being "considered," while meanwhile hiring liberals to fill every position that person had applied for. So when they finally fully "considred" the resume, they said "oh sorry, all those positions have been filled."
Posted by: ace

If I recall correctly, Pence was brought in at a late stage in the transition (December 2016 mebbe) to finish staffing and Christie was sidelined. Pence had no more liking for American First types than Christie did and was a center for GOPe resistance against Trump internally.

Posted by: whig at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (jxAhR)

504 >>>486 I'm surprised at so many bickering about Trump's personnel picks. I'd guess that half of them had good track records and were cheered when selected, and then turned when they came face to face with the deep state.

I don't mean to be mean, but you plainly know nothing of this, and are just taking your usual "Trust Trump no matter what the evidence" take.

Do you understand that some of us don't believe in "just trusting" a man who is not named Jesus?

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (KRtlO)

505 Before everyone pops the champagne bottles recall that all the “experts” were sure Obamacare was going to be overturned.

Posted by: Montec at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (YofvK)
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No one know if McCain just drew the short straw....

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (krQz2)

506 Missed by one, if only I hadn't typo'd and corrected it...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (7nRFT)

507 Was Kayleigh McEnany a good hire ? I think she was. And then she said something benign, but not adulating, fawning enough. What did Trump do ? Kinda behaved like some people here. Went into a meltdown, called her a RINO and some other shit.

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (V13WU)

508 -
Vermont Man Does The Meme, Stops Home Intruder With Muzzleloader

http://tinyurl.com/mr3ua27k

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As the founders intended.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 08, 2024 02:38 PM

It's the double effect. Even if he hadn't hit the guy, the perp would not have been able to see anything from the powder smoke. LOL. Buddy of mine accidentially lit his off at the range the other day while he was upwind of everyone else on the line. He walked out of there a bit red faced.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (4p0Xq)

509 A 9-0 win would perk up a lot of LIVs to the realization the left is regarded and going after him unjustly.

Posted by: Montec at February 08, 2024 02:36 PM (YofvK)

No, because the decision will be based on the fact that President isn't an "officer" within the meaning of the insurrection section.

In other words, a technical defeat, not on the merits - the left will continue to claim he led an insurrection.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (ky+MF)

510 I get to leave at three again today and tomorrow! Today I'll stop at the car wash to rinse the weekend's rain and dust off the Buick and use the Griot's spray wax I bought as I dry it off. Tomorrow, eh, I dunno.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (J2vNu)

511 341 There is an underground facility somewhere in Washington State that is full of millions of pounds of cheese.
Posted by: Madamemayhem


He must be young or rural. In the 70s there was whole underground economy when the gov. decided to give away the surplus cheese to the "needy".
5 pound blocks of cheese were a form of currency (like cigarettes in prison) being traded for sex, drugs, whatever.

The Gov. cheese is eternal. The gov. cheese is a totem of love. Everybody's living off the government cheese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZVPv9B-ZlM

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (y5D4X)

512 You know that line "don't meet your heroes" ? I think at least some of Trump's personnel issues are just people that wanted to be a part of it and then absolutely hate him after working with him.

I know every time Trump has someone stab him in the back, it's "because they secretly want open borders" or something like that. But it's obvious Trump burns every bridge humanly possible.

DC runs more on emotion than ideology. My biggest issue with Trump is I think enough voters hate him on a personal level that it just won't matter how bad things get.

Posted by: Blago at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (pogwM)

513
As others have noted, not every pick for his administration was his own. I would have thought the vetting processes would have been better.

YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 08, 2024 02:26 PM (Q4IgG)

He should have hired better vets. Obviously

Posted by: Just Lily at February 08, 2024 02:42 PM (vivhj)

514 get to leave at three again today and tomorrow! Today I'll stop at the car wash to rinse the weekend's rain and dust off the Buick and use the Griot's spray wax I bought as I dry it off. Tomorrow, eh, I dunno.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (J2vNu)
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Leave it in the garage so it stays clean?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:42 PM (yjAVs)

515 501 Going to be a 500 post, thread!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (7nRFT)
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I'm from Missouri.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:42 PM (krQz2)

516 Is Joe going to say something bizarre and threatening about the Supreme Court?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (O9EMC)

Yes, but he'll say it in gibberish so it'll be centuries before anyone deciphers what he said.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:42 PM (uvymP)

517 "And he's rubbing off on Sefton..."

Are we not doing phrasing anymore?

Posted by: PabloD at February 08, 2024 02:42 PM (bBWBE)

518 Trump hires the best he can. The better one's are scared off by
Group 65 and you know it.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 08, 2024 01:40 PM (9IvoX)

WTB an upvote or ten.

Posted by: Advo at February 08, 2024 02:42 PM (XGWQW)

519 Most veteran reporters of Supreme Court cases will warn you not to take any of the arguments as a preview to their decision.

Posted by: Fen at February 08, 2024 02:42 PM (jjUs5)

520 The democrats, being perverts, have perverted the justice system.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (Dc73h)

521 There is an underground facility somewhere in Washington State that is full of millions of pounds of cheese.
Posted by: Madamemayhem

WHO MOVED MY FUCKING CHEESE??

Posted by: That asshole that wrote that stupid book at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (ufFY8)

522 I've read a lot of the comments.

I don't care who Trump "picked" in 2016. 2017. Or tomorrow.

I just want him to win.

As was said: He might be an asshole. But he's OUR asshole.

And: FJB

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (JkCto)

523 >>But I am sure your guy who wasted millions and whose only saving grace is he had the sense to drop after his Iowa loss would have a better record from the same establishment picks. Because that is not retarded.

Maybe if Ron had made better personnel choices in campaign consultants he wouldn't have spent $100 million, spent a year visiting all 99 counties in Iowa and then dropped out after a single primary.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (LkLld)

524 >>>Ahh, but what about spaghetti? That absolutely belongs in chili.

Or, more accurately, chili belongs on it.
Posted by: Cincinnati at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (yjAVs)

======

I like to put sour cream in my chili. Am I alone in this practice?

Posted by: Turn 2 at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (oSYO3)

525 Trump should offer her a job as ambassador to Luxemburg.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (4p0Xq)

Maybe Rhode Island. Who's the current ambassador there?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (uvymP)

526 485 But yet, he will now be able to state on his resume that he's argued a case before the SCOTUS.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 08, 2024 02:35 PM

One of my kids’ friends mom did that. She’s a pretty chill woman, very down to earth. Worked for a bigly big law firm for a while then quit that game and now has a small firm here in our flyover city. She jokes that no matter what happens, she’ll always be able to say she argued a scotus case. Which she lost. 😞

Posted by: Montec at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (YofvK)

527 Can anything be just LET GO,

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)

Hello, pot.

Posted by: the kettle at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (MqhXY)

528 Nood turtle all the way down

Posted by: nckate at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (ZGGD+)

529 A 9-0 decision would also make the idiots who screamed that Thomas should recuse himself look stupid.

Posted by: Mark1971 at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (xPl2J)

530 Message Conformity Policing? Hmmm, I like the sound of that. Tell me more...

Posted by: Zuckerbux at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (w/0A+)

531 So it could be a combination of bad judgement and being a shitty, mercurial boss. no one good wants to work for him.

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (V13WU)

532 How about a "do carrots belong in chili" debate?

Carrots in chili, like Kaboom for breakfast, are a product of leftist policies. We had carrots—and, worse, potatoes—in chili when I was growing up in the seventies. Both were bad, although potatoes were arguably worse. But they extended the chili for a family of seven in bad times.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (PmqP5)

533 Yes, the proposed law would require every pet in Colorado to have a designated Emergency Contact

stop laughing- they meant that shit
Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:14 PM (geLO
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They should not allow "refer recess" in the State Capitol.
Posted by: Axeman


"reefer recess" I could believe, they are all losers from California.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (qZdIZ)

534 Tune in next post to see.....
How the world turns.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

LOL - that was good

Posted by: Cheri at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (oiNtH)

535 jim (in Kalifornia), my thoughts are with you.

The Trump wars are never fun around here. Take a break, if needed and come back. From my perspective, you would be missed.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 08, 2024 02:27 PM (i24o9)

------------

Ditto.

FWIW, I didn't think Ace was joking either and was going to make the same point as jim. Can we get an ewok tag?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (z/7Ah)

536 I get to leave at three again today and tomorrow! Today I'll stop at the car wash to rinse the weekend's rain and dust off the Buick and use the Griot's spray wax I bought as I dry it off. Tomorrow, eh, I dunno.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius



Wolfus, can you come to my office immediately, please? I've got an important project that you'll need to start on right away.
-- Wolfus' boss at 2:59 PM

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (9yWhg)

537 3 Notably, some of the toughest and most skeptical questions came from the left of the Court.

... this ruling breaks only one-way today, but it breaks in every way down the road.

The downside of having a Justice Jackson, is that as a black, her community has had shit like this shoved down their throats for centuries. A quick win today could mean bad times ahead. Why sell yourself short for the old sennile white guy from a "slave state" that is in the White House today.

Posted by: SMOD at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (RHGPo)

538 A 9-0 win would perk up a lot of LIVs to the realization the left is regarded and going after him unjustly.

Posted by: Montec

That's the only reason why I question if it will happen. Because that's where we are in this stage of the banana republic. Judges not being able to show an ounce of intellectual honesty because Trump might get a good news cycle out of it.

Look at all the J6 people rotting in gulags because if judges threw these cases out, it hurts the narrative.

Posted by: Blago at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (pogwM)

539 Let it go , Indiana

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 08, 2024 02:44 PM (EeR8D)

540 >I like to put sour cream in my chili. Am I alone in this practice?

Posted by: Turn 2


No- but again, on, not in

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (geLO8)

541 I think I can expect unity of opinion when I say that the real problem isn't Trump or anything associated, but that I seriously barked a knuckle taking out a drain stopper and now my finger hurts.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (yjAVs)

542 If I recall the comment correctly, she said that a decision would be made after the SC primary.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 08, 2024 02:23 PM

So do I need to change the date on her going away cake? And did you sign her card yet?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (4p0Xq)

543 Do you understand that some of us don't believe in "just trusting" a man who is not named Jesus?

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (KRtlO)

Wow. ace just pulled the Christian card!

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (xhfG9)

544 get to leave at three again today and tomorrow! Today I'll stop at the car wash to rinse the weekend's rain and dust off the Buick and use the Griot's spray wax I bought as I dry it off. Tomorrow, eh, I dunno.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 08, 2024
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Leave it in the garage so it stays clean?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 08, 2024

***
When I finally leave this dump and have a house with a garage, hell yes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (J2vNu)

545 She's the lone representative of blacks on the court. She already is the outlier and she needs to maintain that position.

I didn't follow all the Q&A in detail so maybe I'm wrong about this but it seems like KBJ asked some questions that didn't get good answers. If she dissents, won't she will be obligated to explain why those non-answers were not only good but compelling?

Posted by: Oddbob at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (sNc8Y)

546 A vote for Trump isn't even really an expression of faith in Trump any more, its a vote against our corrupt, incompetent and perverted "betters " and their international friends

Posted by: Azjaeger at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (/wuUy)

547
Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:40 PM (KRtlO)

Wow. ace just pulled the Christian card!
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (xhfG9)

Or else he really puts a lot of stock in what the gardener says.

Heyoooo!

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (xhfG9)

548 Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (V13WU)

Trump Said Mean Things about someone who criticized him during an election. My stars and garters!! My salts!!!!

Don't worry I know how sensitive you are to Mean Things, runner. It shocks and appalls you.

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (oNgxs)

549 I know every time Trump has someone stab him in the back, it's "because they secretly want open borders" or something like that. But it's obvious Trump burns every bridge humanly possible.

Posted by: Blago at February 08, 2024 02:41 PM (pogwM)
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Right. Trump made Bannon go apoplectic in the media about "The Russians" about a Trump Tower meeting he did not attend.

How can somebody help but play right into the mass media's hands--who's supposed to be a media expert?

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:46 PM (krQz2)

550 Can anything be just LET GO,

Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:29 PM (KRtlO)

Hello, pot.
Posted by: the kettle at February 08, 2024 02:43 PM (MqhXY)


when do people get to tell the host to leave his own house ?

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 02:46 PM (V13WU)

551 529 A 9-0 decision would also make the idiots who screamed that Thomas should recuse himself look stupid.
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They look stupid already, just sayin'

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 08, 2024 02:46 PM (fs1hN)

552
Well, a modest proposal would seem in order:

Install Trump by any means necessary, and relegate him to the Joey-shake-hands-with-the-devil figurehead spouting, ranting and calling names. Get Jr. to start a coke habit.

Have a REAL conservative behind the scenes taking a blow torch to the deep state and all the foul demons populating it.

Problem is finding two conservatives who could agree on who would be real and who's a sell-out GOPe loser.

Posted by: Auspex at February 08, 2024 02:46 PM (j4U/Z)

553 If Trump is in jail, I'll write his name in.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 08, 2024 02:47 PM (cf/0E)

554 Trump Said Mean Things about someone who criticized him during an election. My stars and garters!! My salts!!!!

Don't worry I know how sensitive you are to Mean Things, runner. It shocks and appalls you.
Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (oNgxs)


that is not even an argument, just some more nothing Trump does is bad stuff

Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 02:47 PM (V13WU)

555 I don't mean to be mean, but you plainly know nothing of this, and are just taking your usual "Trust Trump no matter what the evidence" take.

Do you understand that some of us don't believe in "just trusting" a man who is not named Jesus?

Posted by: ace


Go back and read the comments on this blog when Bolton or Mattis were picked.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 08, 2024 02:47 PM (CeJN/)

556 Posted by: ace at February 08, 2024 02:33 PM (KRtlO)

Whoa. For a minute there, I thought NIGHTWATCH was posting.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at February 08, 2024 02:47 PM (/HDaX)

557 Trump is shitty at hiring people. This is objectively true. Pobody’s nerfect.

Posted by: Montec at February 08, 2024 02:47 PM (YofvK)

558 If she dissents, won't she will be obligated to explain why those non-answers were not only good but compelling?
Posted by: Oddbob at February 08, 2024 02:45 PM (sNc8Y)

Will she? What happens if doesn't? They dock her pay? Put a mark on her permanent record?

She's a Supreme Court Justice. She can do whatever she wants and you can't do anything about it.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:47 PM (xhfG9)

559 481
Vermont Man Does The Meme, Stops Home Intruder With Muzzleloader

http://tinyurl.com/mr3ua27k

-
As the founders intended.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at February 08, 2024 02:38 PM (FVME7)

You need to send this to Weasel for the weekend Gun Thread.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 08, 2024 02:48 PM (N39Ws)

560 Do you understand that some of us don't believe in "just trusting" a man who is not named Jesus?
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I'm going to take that as a throwaway comment.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:48 PM (krQz2)

561 A 9-0 decision would also make the idiots who screamed that Thomas should recuse himself look stupid.

The people screaming that don't have the self-awareness to realize that.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2024 02:48 PM (2ocoG)

562 Maybe if Ron had made better personnel choices in campaign consultants he wouldn't have spent $100 million, spent a year visiting all 99 counties in Iowa and then dropped out after a single primary.
Posted by: JackStraw
____

How much did Trump blow losing the 2020 election to Joe Biden?

We're over DeSantis, but your hero fucking up 2020 is why we're here right now.

If Trump loses 2024 (and I unfortunately think he will) I can't wait to cite the billions wasted on him and that he was beat by someone that belongs in a nursing home with a 30% approval rating.

Posted by: Blago at February 08, 2024 02:48 PM (pogwM)

563 that is not even an argument, just some more nothing Trump does is bad stuff
Posted by: runner at February 08, 2024 02:47 PM (V13WU)

What am I arguing? What are YOU arguing? Are you over your shock that Trump said something mean about someone who was supporting his opponent during an election? Will you be ok?

Posted by: ... at February 08, 2024 02:49 PM (oNgxs)

564 Let it go , Indiana
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Dog's name!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:49 PM (7nRFT)

565 A 9-0 decision would also make the idiots who screamed that Thomas should recuse himself look stupid.
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It won't bother certain people. Some people keep fucking the chicken.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:49 PM (krQz2)

566 TAYLOR SWIFT!

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:49 PM (geLO8)

567 When the House conservatives were trying to get rid of or box in Kevin McCarthy in January 2023, Trump of course supported McCarthy. A MAGA guy himself, Matt Gaetz, who was right in the middle of the campaign against McCarthy said, words to the effect of, HR was not Trump's strong suit!

Posted by: Severe Conservative at February 08, 2024 02:49 PM (Xt1g2)

568 545 She's the lone representative of blacks on the court. She already is the outlier and she needs to maintain that position.

I didn't follow all the Q&A in detail so maybe I'm wrong about this but it seems like KBJ asked some questions that didn't get good answers. If she dissents, won't she will be obligated to explain why those non-answers were not only good but compelling?
Posted by: Oddbob
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You make a very good point, and she does have that dilemma if she chooses to dissent from the other 8.
I made an unserious point about KBJ being the sole voice of blacks on the court, because there is actually another black on the court and he has been there for decades, but the mainstream media and the Dems (BIRM) don't see him as black.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 08, 2024 02:50 PM (fs1hN)

569 "Jackson is probing the list argument that the president is not listed expressly."

Has anyone other than legal scholar Ketanji made that argument? First time I have heard it.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 08, 2024 02:50 PM (Cus5s)

570 Ace, it's only February. Imagine the butthurt as we get closer to election day. Sooner or later you're gonna have to go ahead and swing the hammer on those offenders. I say, swing away. You've given them more than enough warnings.

Posted by: toddg at February 08, 2024 02:50 PM (OIW8q)

571 I bought 5kg of carrots for new year.
Carrots go in EVERYTHING

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 08, 2024 02:50 PM (y5D4X)

572 Well... Trump tends to hire incompetent people.

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That's rich. They have threatened and scared away all the top lawyers so he can only hire who is left. Good strategy for the swamp.

Posted by: Decaf at February 08, 2024 02:51 PM (3JfbU)

573 Will she? What happens if doesn't? They dock her pay? Put a mark on her permanent record?

Point taken. I meant "compelled" in the sense of needing to do in order to be taken seriously. Which, as you say, she doesn't strictly speaking need to care about but it seems like she would want to be.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 08, 2024 02:51 PM (sNc8Y)

574 CHEESEBURGERS: delightful sandwich or silent killer?

Posted by: Don Black at February 08, 2024 02:51 PM (geLO8)

575 Carrots go in EVERYTHING

You shut your whore mouth!

They don't go in chili.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at February 08, 2024 02:52 PM (/HDaX)

576 Point taken. I meant "compelled" in the sense of needing to do in order to be taken seriously. Which, as you say, she doesn't strictly speaking need to care about but it seems like she would want to be.
Posted by: Oddbob at February 08, 2024 02:51 PM (sNc8Y)

No need to be taken seriously. She's no biologist.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:52 PM (xhfG9)

577 >>How much did Trump blow losing the 2020 election to Joe Biden?

You are ridiculously dumb.

Anyone who still believe Trump lost a fair election in 2020 is either a leftist or a retard. Redundant, I know.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2024 02:53 PM (LkLld)

578 NOOD

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2024 02:53 PM (xhfG9)

579 That's rich. They have threatened and scared away all the top lawyers so he can only hire who is left. Good strategy for the swamp.
Posted by: Decaf at February 08, 2024 02:51 PM (3JfbU)
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And Mueller raided the office of his personal lawyer and put the screws on him to produce for the the prosecution.

They are sending to prison one of Trump's lawyers who worked on the StS legal campaign.

There are FOIA-ed documents that hint that the FIB has a mole in Trump's current defense team.

Posted by: Axeman at February 08, 2024 02:54 PM (krQz2)

580 I'm surprised at so many bickering about Trump's personnel picks. I'd guess that half of them had good track records and were cheered when selected, and then turned when they came face to face with the deep state. I think many people still don't understand just how big and dangerous that group is. Think about the potential son in law of Kemp.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 08, 2024 02:39 PM (CeJN/)

Agree. I imagine what we see publicly is only the tip of the iceberg of the threats and subterfuge that defines DC.

And also remember that no one person is going to be perfect and without faults. The deep state preys upon all of that.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 08, 2024 02:56 PM (BdMk6)

581 Trump is shitty at picking people. That's demonstrably true. So is the fact that his behavior and his lack of unity turn off a good part of the voting public he needs to win. Get over it. Those are just facts, only a cultist would deny.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2024 01:56 PM (dhhKu)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And in this case ? It is demonstrably FALSE. That is why it is getting hammered again and again.

Pointing out his faults is fine. Doing so when it is demonstrably NOT a fault is not so fine. Its really that simple.

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:57 PM (OeYsY)

582
I enjoy this little outhouse of insanity with the moon over the door slightly askew and the shelf over the crapper in danger of falling. But I can see the left shutting down all dissent in Biden term 2.0 and Ace being gone. Look at what they've done to make the Internet unprofitable to most everyone who does not engage in left-think.

I seldom engage in hyperbola. I most certainly am not engaging in it now. Criticizing Trump is not necessarily bad if he knows of the criticism, learns from the mistakes of the past, and does not repeat them.

( Offtopic ) General Floyd, Christian vs Michael Pence, Christian is an interesting story that someone should consider. Someone is a liar. OMG did AoS get trolled when that went down. Pence supporters almost predominately. Wonder why?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 08, 2024 02:57 PM (nIvob)

583 I'm a simple woman so I'll simply say that I really like Trump and DeSantis and would have happily have voted for Ron if Trump wasn't on the ballot. They have their flaws and have made some bad judgements, but at the end of the day, I truly believe that they love their country, believe in us as a Constitutional Republic, believe in law and order, the sovereignty of our nation, etc., etc.

My dream has always been a Trump/DeSantis ticket, with Big D taking the reigns in 2028.

Posted by: Cheri at February 08, 2024 03:00 PM (oiNtH)

584 Jim,

You've gone through the hardest time I can think of over the past few weeks.

This is typically where I come to have some laughs, learn some news that isn't spun to the left, and get insights from (almost all) very intelligent people of generally like minded thoughts. I depend on this as a place of crazy sanity.

Has to hurt to feel targeted here at such a difficult time. As a general lurker, but one who has been hanging around here for about 15 years, I would miss your commentary. Sincerely hope you find better days ahead and end up back here.

I suspect a lot of folks feel this way.

Posted by: RM at February 08, 2024 03:05 PM (urbih)

585 "83 Senate passed aid for Ukraine bill with help of 17 R Senators. The usual treasonous suspects helped Joe Biden.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 08, 2024 01:47 PM (ImwvP)"

You mean the open border bill; they don't give a single shit about Ukraine beyond using it as a political tool. It's the new "but think of the children!", which is extra disgusting considering the admins role in encouraging its start plus the calculated drip of military aid.

Posted by: somedood at February 08, 2024 03:05 PM (OinN3)

586 Dog's name!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 08, 2024 02:49 PM (7nRFT)

You were named after the dog?!

~ Gimli

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 08, 2024 03:09 PM (YwyqV)

587 Nope. Sometimes he's wrong. But he's right more than anyone else has been, and that's enough for me, thanks very much.

Posted by: deadrody at February 08, 2024 02:00 PM (OeYsY)
==
I liked his foreign policy - thought it was pretty strong - I'd like that again. Domestically he spent like a drunken sailor. Liked his nose for deregulation, it did open up the economy. He fought for his court nominees. Especially Kavanaugh.

Disagreed his picking the fight with McCain, and we were paid back in spades by McCain torpedoing the ACA repeal. Makes enemies needlessly, hurting him down the line, sometimes critically. His desire to get a deal gets in the way of the long term ramifications of it. His backtracking on the whole woke BS is a huge red flag for me. He mishandled covid from the beginning - his need to be out in front of everything boxed himself in, when he should have realized he was being played when he could have done something about it. Spends way too much, though that seems to be a trend. W spent a ton, Obama, spent more, Trump more than that, and then Biden into the stratosphere. We have already covered his poor personnel management.

I prefer him to Biden.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 08, 2024 03:14 PM (GZYu7)

588 "The question that you have to confront is why a single state should decide who gets to be President of the United States."

That same question should be asked of people who want to abolish the electoral college. Those people want the voters of California and New York to pick your president every four years for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Cybernetic at February 08, 2024 03:32 PM (xawZJ)

589 Trump's picks were good. See Mike Flynn --oh, wait.

Posted by: free tibet at February 08, 2024 03:56 PM (iNp3L)

590 Jason Murray looks like he just graduated law school.

I can hearing the DOJ now: "Send in the kid. We're gonna lose anyway."

Posted by: PJ at February 08, 2024 04:37 PM (G1dq6)

591 Bet at best its a 5-4 decision. At best.

Posted by: Sally at February 08, 2024 08:40 PM (EcD5Y)

592 That's it Ace, stay classy.
Your little shot at President Trump over the lawyers he hired sure shows your state of mind. Bitter much?
Just for the record, I've not read where a single legal expert, on either side, brought up the point that Jackson asked, prior to the SCOTUS hearing. So I guess EVERYONE who hasn't previously made Jackson's argument is an incomptent. At least, according to you.

Posted by: Tracy at February 09, 2024 01:38 AM (bEeKZ)

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