Jamaal Bowman, the Trillion-Dollar-Reparations Huckster and Insurrectionist Fire Alarm Puller, Turns Out to be a "9/11 Wuz Inside Job" Conspiracy Theorist

I know what you guys are thinking, because I'm thinking it too.

You're not thinking anything. Because there are no words, there are no thoughts.

You just don't expect this kind of thing from Jamaal Bowman.

The man is the adamantine pillar around which the world spins -- you know, like Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum's powerschlong.

Twitchy quotes from the Daily Beast, which, I guess, broke this story because they got wind that someone else was about to do so:

Every entry was deleted sometime before February 2016, but the compositions preserved in archives included 137 lines of free verse from May 2011 entitled 'Recapitulate.' What begins as a meditation on a decade-plus of world events, recollecting anxiety over Y2K and controversy around the 2000 Florida recount, swiftly delves into the world of 9/11 trutherism.
"2001/Planes used as missiles/Target: The Twin Towers," a stanza on the terror attack begins. "Later in the day/Building 7/Also Collaspsed [sic]/Hmm.../Multiple explosions/Heard before/And during the collapse/Hmm..."
Bowman there invoked a favorite, disproven trope of the paranoid fringe: that the collapse of Building 7 was the result of a controlled demolition.
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The poem then pursues even more obscure conspiratorial musings.
"Allegedly/Two other planes/The Pentagon/Pennsylvania/Hijacked by terrorist [sic]/Minimal damage done/Minimal debris found/Hmm..." he wrote.

Hmmmm....

"We blamed Osama/Went to war in Iraq/Captured Saddam/Killed him," Bowman's poem reads.

We blamed Osama. Even the Daily Bitch has a problem with this formulation.

"Bin Laden is Afghan/So we went to war there too." In fact, Bin Laden, who openly took credit for the Sept. 11 attacks, never held Afghan citizenship and was born into a billionaire Saudi family.

The Daily Birch notes that Bowman was following the conspiratorial fevers of two idiots on the internet.

In the poem, Bowman also points to the source of the falsehoods he is propagating--"Watch Loose Change/And Zeitgeist," he exhorts.
Loose Change is a viral "documentary" which has become an international laughingstock for positing that the U.S. government carried out the Sept. 11 attacks, based on a range of debunked and nonsensical assertions.
Zeitgeist, similarly a product of the message board and chain email margins of the aughties web, is a 2007 film that goes beyond preposterous fantasies about the 2001 hijackings and argues that a ring of globalist bankers controls the Federal Reserve and periodically contrives national tragedies to compel the U.S. government to embark on wars and take out greater debt

Both Zeitgeist and Loose Change were favorites of mass shooter Jared Loughner, who killed six people and injured 13 more, including then-Rep. Gabby Giffords, in a rampage in Tucson, Arizona in January 2011. And both productions enjoyed the backing of arch-conspiracy hawker Alex Jones: He served as executive producer of the "final cut" of Loose Change, and declared he agrees with "90% of Zeitgeist," further claiming that the movie drew from his own work.

Of course they had to show that Alex Jones also pushed this crap. But I guess that's fair enough. He does believe in All the Conspiracies.

There can be no mistaking that these are the subjects of Bowman's poem: He even refers to Zeitgeist director Peter Joseph by name.
"Shout out to John Perkins/William Cooper/Michael Moore/Peter Joseph/And Adam Curtis," Bowman wrote.
John Perkins is the author of the book Secrets of an Economic Hit Man, and William Cooper was a radio host and hero of the militia movement--and of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh--known for fevered ramblings about aliens, the Illuminati, and the supposed man-made origin of HIV/AIDS. Cooper died in a shoot-out with law enforcement in November 2001. Michael Moore and Adam Curtis are both left-wing documentary-makers.

I have to admit, the Daily Bitch isn't pulling too many punches here.

Bowman is basically playing the "when I was young and foolish I was young and foolish" card.

Here's the problem:

When he wrote his "Hmmm..." poems, he was a thirty-five year old man responsible for educating children.

Oh, and he says he only explored these strange theories because... he was "debating pursuing a doctorate."

Web archives show that while Bowman was a 35-year-old educator running the Cornerstone Academy for Social Action in the Bronx, he maintained an online journal at Relentless-Strongback.Blogspot.com, where he published poems and brief essays there on personal, political, and pedagogical concerns through 2014.

We'll never know what we missed out on when Jamaal Bowman decided to go into politics instead of academics.

Though... we could probably hazard a guess.

This time, a medical school neuroscientist is on the hot seat for research misconduct at Harvard.
Claudine Gay could at least argue that her academic misconduct wasn't exactly brain surgery, but now that two of the academic scandals are at Harvard Medical School and one includes a neuroscientist, you get the idea.
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It is brain surgery in this case, and it's pretty hard for Harvard to deny that there is a fundamental problem regarding academic integrity at its institution now that four separate scandals have popped up in the period of a few months.

This is not just a story about DEI; it’s a story about an academy-wide collapse in standards.
— Aaron Sibarium (@aaronsibarium) February 1, 2024

Princeton could use a man like Jamaal.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:10 PM

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1 Hmm.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2024 01:11 PM (aD39U)

2 Good afternoon everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2024 01:11 PM (oZhq1)

3 Sponge?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2024 01:12 PM (aD39U)

4 Is a 9/11 conspiracy theory dangerous misinformation that requires heavy suppression from social media companies?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:12 PM (GBKbO)

5 "Bin Laden is Afghan/So we went to war there too." In fact, Bin Laden, who openly took credit for the Sept. 11 attacks, never held Afghan citizenship and was born into a billionaire Saudi family.

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False. Terrorism comes from poverty. We have to nation build to stop it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:12 PM (GBKbO)

6 You know what was an inside job?

Pulling the fucking fire alarm.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 02, 2024 01:13 PM (wtvvX)

7 Politics attracts a certain kind of scum and this guy is a slimy as they come.

Posted by: fd at February 02, 2024 01:13 PM (vFG9F)

8 The Daily Birch

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Posted by: runner at February 02, 2024 01:14 PM (V13WU)

9 You can add in all the Covid"experts" with their fake papers

Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2024 01:14 PM (n2vyf)

10 Well, 9-11 was the first time that fire melted steel, you know . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 02, 2024 01:14 PM (iFTx/)

11 This is not just a story about DEI; it’s a story about an academy-wide collapse in standards.

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I'm sorry, but if everyone doesn't pass college then college is simply too hard.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

12 So Bowman isn't a complete idiot, then.

Because on that, he was right. And i, along with every other Bush-Cheney taint-licker, was wrong. In hindsight.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 01:14 PM (/QIWP)

13 The man is the adamantine pillar around which the world spins -- you know, like Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum's powerschlong.
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LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:14 PM (B2vkr)

14 I've seen this happen a lot in New York. After some Democrat is elected someone uncovers some crazy shit about him or her.

I used to ask "Why didn't one in the Republican party do any opposition research on this guy" and the answer is always:

"The guy is a Democrat running in a Democrat district. His voters don't care or they actually will support him because of this stupid shit. There's no point to researching it."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2024 01:15 PM (lf83v)

15 Speaking of frauds, it's 60F here today - must be climate change we hear about everyday.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2024 01:15 PM (oZhq1)

16 Bowman there invoked a favorite, disproven trope of the paranoid fringe: that the collapse of Building 7 was the result of a controlled demolition.

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I remember that disproven conspiracy theory.

IIRC the official federal statement was that fuel didn't contribute, nor did any type of impact, but office furniture burned around all the columns at such high temperatures that it caused all portions of the building to collapse simultaneously.

And I don't think there was any change to office furniture or building codes afterwards.

Anyway, that PATRIOT Act sure is awesome.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:15 PM (AIJ3L)

17 13 The man is the adamantine pillar around which the world spins -- you know, like Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum's powerschlong.

I still say he did it for the money not the sex {{{shudder}}}

Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2024 01:16 PM (n2vyf)

18 ... "2001/Planes used as missiles/Target: The Twin Towers," a stanza on the terror attack begins. "Later in the day/Building 7/Also Collaspsed [sic]/Hmm.../Multiple explosions/Heard before/And during the collapse/Hmm..."
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"Allegedly/Two other planes/The Pentagon/Pennsylvania/Hijacked by terrorist [sic]/Minimal damage done/Minimal debris found/Hmm..." he wrote.
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Between this guy and Robert Francis O'Rourke, I am increasingly convinced that mid-level leftist politicians all learned poetry from the Vogons.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:16 PM (B2vkr)

19 Speaking of frauds, it's 60F here today - must be climate change we hear about everyday.

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no, not that. Phil did not, I repeat, DID NOT, see his shadow. Winter is over soon.

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2024 01:16 PM (V13WU)

20 "Princeton could use a man like Jamaal."

Wasn't that Racist Democrat President Woodrow Wilson the President of Princeton before he was elected?

You know? The guy that resegregated the Federal Civil Service. The guy that played "Birth of a Nation" in the White House.

Posted by: rd at February 02, 2024 01:17 PM (F7KTJ)

21 15 "The guy is a Democrat running in a Democrat district. His voters don't care or they actually will support him because of this stupid shit. There's no point to researching it."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2024 01:15 PM (lf83v)

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Tangential, but it still warms my heart to think about it.

In Tom Cotton's last election, he waited until the Democrat Party primary ended, and then they did the massive document and oppo dump against the guy who won.

It was so damaging, then guy just dropped out of the race. Democrats didn't have a candidate anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

22 Bowman there invoked a favorite, disproven trope of the paranoid fringe: that the collapse of Building 7 was the result of a controlled demolition.

If you believe COVID came from a lab in Wuhan or that the clot shot causes serious health issues...both proven now...you are a "conspiracy theorist"

If you believe Shrub piloted the 9/11 planes via remote control while a Jewish cabal made him do it though you are just a person with questions.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 02, 2024 01:17 PM (ibTVg)

23 Well, 9-11 was the first time that fire melted steel, you know . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade

Good thing Bethlehem Steel and US Steel had plenty of fairy dust and unicorn farts back in their heyday.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2024 01:17 PM (oZhq1)

24 18 Between this guy and Robert Francis O'Rourke, I am increasingly convinced that mid-level leftist politicians all learned poetry from the Vogons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:16 PM (B2vkr)

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I can tolerate Vogon poetry, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:18 PM (GBKbO)

25 You know? The guy that resegregated the Federal Civil Service. The guy that played "Birth of a Nation" in the White House.

One of the big media pretend conservatives had a piece the other day on how Wilson was actually awesome. I think it was David Frum.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:18 PM (2ocoG)

26 Oh and remember that nominally everything the government did to Alex Jones was because he questioned whether the kids at some school shooting actually died.

Here we have assholes claiming that 9/11 was an inside job and...that's a-ok.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 02, 2024 01:18 PM (ibTVg)

27 You wonder why inner cities are the way they are. People like Bowman are responsible for the education of the yutes. Ergo chaos

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 02, 2024 01:18 PM (WPWOC)

28
no, not that. Phil did not, I repeat, DID NOT, see his shadow. Winter is over soon.
Posted by: runner at February 02, 2024 01:16 PM (V13WU)

So it's gonna be a rough 6 weeks... I believe the weather services more than I believe the rodent and I give them 50/50 accuracy.... Kind of like Joe's jobs numbers.... bogus

Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2024 01:18 PM (n2vyf)

29 Can't crap on Bowman. I was a legit 29 when I knocked on doors because I thought Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan were the saviors this country desperately needed.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 02, 2024 01:19 PM (KbCG3)

30 25 You know? The guy that resegregated the Federal Civil Service. The guy that played "Birth of a Nation" in the White House.

One of the big media pretend conservatives had a piece the other day on how Wilson was actually awesome. I think it was David Frum.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:18 PM (2ocoG)

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Yes, it was Frum, who had written a few years ago about how Wilson was a monster of a president.

David Frum is a whore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

31 Phil did not, I repeat, DID NOT, see his shadow.
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Okay, but there will be at least six more weeks of Trump RICO because I saw Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum's powerschlong.

Posted by: Fani at February 02, 2024 01:19 PM (lf83v)

32 Omar still in congress?

Posted by: Oh Ok at February 02, 2024 01:19 PM (ASwnn)

33 aughties web,

I like this, and therefore am stealing it.

Posted by: pookysgirl, phrase pickpocket at February 02, 2024 01:20 PM (dtlDP)

34 In Tom Cotton's last election, he waited until the Democrat Party primary ended, and then they did the massive document and oppo dump against the guy who won.

Cotton first appears on the national radar writing articles as an officer fighting the WoT.

Since what he was saying was completely at odds with what the FNM was saying the FNM literally claimed he was fake...some made up right wing chair warrior.

And they kept this lie up until after he was running for the Senate somehow...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 02, 2024 01:20 PM (ibTVg)

35 Huh, Bowman and I agree on something.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:20 PM (JeYYB)

36 I can't be arsed to care about 9/11 trutherism. I just don't have it in me to defend the federal government from anything anymore. It could have been different, but it decided I was the enemy. So, I'm sorry this is happening, and best of luck.

Posted by: I've Broken Free from Helsinki Syndrome at February 02, 2024 01:20 PM (L81HX)

37 10 Well, 9-11 was the first time that fire melted steel, you know
Posted by: Elric Blade

More plagiarism! At least credit my work!!!

Posted by: Rosie ODonnell at February 02, 2024 01:20 PM (JCZqz)

38 Bowman is basically playing the "when I was young and foolish I was young and foolish" card.

Here's the problem:
When he wrote his "Hmmm..." poems, he was a thirty-five year old man responsible for educating children.
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I disagree. That is *a* problem, not *the* problem.

In our world of social media mobs and cancel culture - a world built, developed, endorsed and promoted by the leftists like Brown - "I was young and foolish" is no excuse. Any sin is always a sin, and you must be destroyed for it.

If a kid using a racial slur on Twitter when he was 15 is considered a good reason to cancel him years and years later, then "youthful indiscretion" is not an accept excuse for Brown.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:21 PM (B2vkr)

39 So it's gonna be a rough 6 weeks... I believe the weather services more than I believe the rodent and I give them 50/50 accuracy.... Kind of like Joe's jobs numbers.... bogus
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Now wait a second! Wait a gosh darn second, there! Sunny Prairie Jimmy AND Woody the Woodchuck predicted the same thing!

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2024 01:21 PM (V13WU)

40 Believe nothing. It's a trap.

Posted by: B.L.Otto Schtumbler at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (dzZCL)

41 Okay, but there will be at least six more weeks of Trump RICO because I saw Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum's powerschlong.
Posted by: Fani at February 02, 2024 01:19 PM (lf83v)
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Were you in its shadow?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (7fElN)

42 Between this guy and Robert Francis O'Rourke, I am increasingly convinced that mid-level leftist politicians all learned poetry from the Vogons.

Vogon poetry is only the third-worst in the Universe, but they're the ones everyone seems to remember.

2nd place is the Azgoths of Kria. 1st place was an Englishwoman.

The 80's TV version has actual text, and they're GLORIOUS.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (l8gTz)

43 Damn, it's starting to look like the "content of their character" thing might not work out so good afterall.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (p8d3o)

44 I remember that disproven conspiracy theory.

IIRC the official federal statement was that fuel didn't contribute, nor did any type of impact, but office furniture burned around all the columns at such high temperatures that it caused all portions of the building to collapse simultaneously.

And I don't think there was any change to office furniture or building codes afterwards.

Anyway, that PATRIOT Act sure is awesome.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

The aluminum (tons of it) from the two planes that hit the North and South Towers melted and burned (Aluminum burns at a lower temperature than steel, but then will burn hot enough to melt steel).
There were actual videos shown where molten aluminum was running out of the buildings prior to the collapse.
Was it an inside job?
In the years since then, I am beginning to believe that the Arab Hijackers were "MK-Ultra'd" by the CIA and this was done for a purpose.
Control and tyranny are the obvious ones; displacing Saddam Hussein and opening up Iraq's oil for sale was another (this was before widespread fracking/horizontal drilling changed the amount of oil reserves available in the US).

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (vcOmj)

45 Bowman is a charter member of Club 85.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (cE4C5)

46 It is brain surgery in this case, and it's pretty hard for Harvard to deny that there is a fundamental problem regarding academic integrity at its institution now that four separate scandals have popped up in the period of a few months.
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It isn't a Harvard problem, it's an academia problem.

They're going to stop looking for plagiarism very soon, or it will threaten the entire structure. The amount of plagiarism is staggering and it isn't limited to one academic discipline or institution. It is endemic and if they don't stop looking for it, they'll never stop finding it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (B2vkr)

47 Speaking of frauds, it's 60F here today - must be climate change we hear about everyday.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2024 01:15 PM (oZhq1)

Oh yeah ?

Well, it is NOT warm here; and it ain't dry neither.

Posted by: JT at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (T4tVD)

48 Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me, (with big yawning)
As plurdled gabbleblotchits, in midsummer morning
On a lurgid bee,
That mordiously hath blurted out,
Its earted jurtles, grumbling
Into a rancid festering confectious organ squealer. [drowned out by moaning and screaming]
Now the jurpling slayjid agrocrustles,
Are slurping hagrilly up the axlegrurts,
And living glupules frart and stipulate,
Like jowling meated liverslime,
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me,
With crinkly bindlewurdles,mashurbitries.
Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't!

Posted by: Prostetnic Vogon Jelz at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (l8gTz)

49 Don't worry scro, lots of Harvard grads are living kick-ass lives. My ex-wife is a Harvard grad. She's a toilet bowl scrubber now.

Posted by: Dr. Lexus at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (oMTHf)

50 It would be quite difficult to find a leftist in America who *didn't* believe 9/11 was an inside job. Pretty much all of them followed the whole Loose Change and Michael Moore theories. To them, though, it was all because Bush and Republicans.

They didn't understand the whole Uniparty-deep state paradigm yet. Neither did we, from what I remember.

Yeah, it was a "green flag" event, at the very least. The older I get, the more I realize the hippies were right about a lot of shit.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 01:23 PM (/QIWP)

51 I lived through it, same as I lived through Crossfire Hurricane, the COVID panic, the election, Jan 6th, post 2020 no inflation, best economy ever, etc. to the present.

I'm certain no one enrolled in a federal retirement plan flew the planes.

That's as far as I'm going, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:23 PM (AIJ3L)

52 Were you in its shadow?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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*argle bargle argle*

Posted by: Fani at February 02, 2024 01:23 PM (lf83v)

53 Posted by: Prostetnic Vogon Jelz at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (l8gTz)
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Sigh. You'll be in Congress in '25.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:23 PM (B2vkr)

54 David Frum is a whore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

A man-whore. Mmmm. Have his contact info, by chance?

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg and Barack Obama, thinking Eiffel Tower at February 02, 2024 01:23 PM (JCZqz)

55 Fire on the mountain, run boys run !

Posted by: Jamall Daniels at February 02, 2024 01:23 PM (NtVYv)

56 Ode to a Small Lump of Green Putty I Found in My Armpit One Midsummer Morning

Putty. Putty. Putty.
Green Putty - Grutty Peen.
Grarmpitutty - Morning!
Pridsummer - Grorning Utty!
Discovery..... Oh.
Putty?..... Armpit?
Armpit..... Putty.
Not even a particularly
Nice shade of green.

Posted by: Grunthos the Flatulent at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (l8gTz)

57 2nd place is the Azgoths of Kria. 1st place was an Englishwoman.

The 80's TV version has actual text, and they're GLORIOUS.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (l8gTz)

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings in one version, IIRC.

I always wondered if she was a real person who Adams just wanted to spike.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (T+Iwg)

58 My niece is a neuroscientist who does research into strokes and TBI. She has gotten two patents on her research at UT San Antonio, where she teaches. She did not go to Harvard. She went to Tufts. Harvard sucks.

Posted by: huerfano at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (Q4KYm)

59 Twitchy quotes from the Daily Beast, which, I guess, broke this story because they got wind

So the Daily Beast broke wind? I can relate. /Eric Swallowell

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (cE4C5)

60 The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.:And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.

Posted by: Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (l8gTz)

61 As I get older, it gets harder to ignore the ways our so-called "government" uses, abuses and manipulates people in this country to control and get the desired outcomes.

The Covid19 "Plandemic" made sheep out of a lot of Americans, and resulted in most people getting poorer, and the very rich getting very richer.
Do you think this was an accident?

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (vcOmj)

62 46 It isn't a Harvard problem, it's an academia problem.

They're going to stop looking for plagiarism very soon, or it will threaten the entire structure. The amount of plagiarism is staggering and it isn't limited to one academic discipline or institution. It is endemic and if they don't stop looking for it, they'll never stop finding it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (B2vkr)

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I don't think these looks for plagiarism are coming from inside academia. They from antagonistic outside forces.

The media is going to stop reporting on them. The Boards of Governors are going to be dismissive of "social media bot" reports. The people at the center of the controversies will call it debunked.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (GBKbO)

63 Oh, do you feel in charge?
* tugs vest *

@CitizenFreePres
NYC police are outraged that the illegals who attacked 2 officers were set free and fled to California:

"Why aren’t they in jail right now? They brutally attacked a NYC police officer & lieutenant. Our criminal justice system is upside down! It fails every day.”

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (IG4Id)

64 Here we have assholes claiming that 9/11 was an inside job and...that's a-ok.
Posted by: 18-1

Assholes, and also kind folks like myself.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (/QIWP)

65 It is brain surgery in this case, and it's pretty hard for Harvard to deny that there is a fundamental problem regarding academic integrity at its institution now that four separate scandals have popped up in the period of a few months.

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The average GPA at Harvard in the 50s was 2.5.

Today it is 3.8.

Posted by: ShainS -- Civil War 2: 10th Amendment Revolution Boogaloo at February 02, 2024 01:25 PM (1q18f)

66 Yes, it was Frum, who had written a few years ago about how Wilson was a monster of a president.

David Frum is a whore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Everyone in politics or political commentary is a whore. I don't imagine you can rise above GS-10 or get more than one guest column in a paper without being a whore.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:25 PM (B2vkr)

67 54 David Frum is a whore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

A man-whore. Mmmm. Have his contact info, by chance?
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg and Barack Obama, thinking Eiffel Tower at February 02, 2024 01:23 PM (JCZqz)

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I'm pretty sure it's written in the wall in the US House's Men's bathroom.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

68 ... The media is going to stop reporting on them. The Boards of Governors are going to be dismissive of "social media bot" reports. The people at the center of the controversies will call it debunked.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Yup. That's what I meant, you just put it way better.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:25 PM (B2vkr)

69 51 I lived through it, same as I lived through Crossfire Hurricane, the COVID panic, the election, Jan 6th, post 2020 no inflation, best economy ever, etc. to the present.

I'm certain no one enrolled in a federal retirement plan flew the planes.

That's as far as I'm going, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:23 PM (AIJ3L)

The parallel between Covid and 9/11 is that our elites seemed pretty well prepared for the aftermath of each. The Patriot Act, war with Iraq and mail-in voting all came together amazingly fast for people supposedly caught off-guard.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 02, 2024 01:26 PM (KbCG3)

70 47 Speaking of frauds, it's 60F here today - must be climate change we hear about everyday.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2024 01:15 PM (oZhq1)

Oh yeah ?

Well, it is NOT warm here; and it ain't dry neither.
Posted by: JT
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Have to ask for good weather from JJ and CBD. They run the weather machine requests on AOS.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:26 PM (ZcPYF)

71 Web archives show that while Bowman was a 35-year-old educator running the Cornerstone Academy for Social Action in the Bronx, he maintained an online journal at Relentless-Strongback.Blogspot.com, where he published poems and brief essays there on personal, political, and pedagogical concerns through 2014.

==

What rhymes with Relentless Strongback...?

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2024 01:26 PM (V13WU)

72 The aluminum (tons of it) from the two planes that hit the North and South Towers melted and burned (Aluminum burns at a lower temperature than steel, but then will burn hot enough to melt steel).
There were actual videos shown where molten aluminum was running out of the buildings prior to the collapse.

-

You're a conspiracy theorist if you believe debris weakened the structure and fire from jet fuel contributed to the collapse of WTC 7.

I'm not saying that jokingly. That belief goes against the federal investigation and official statement on the collapse.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:27 PM (AIJ3L)

73 Between this guy and Robert Francis O'Rourke, I am increasingly convinced that mid-level leftist politicians all learned poetry from the Vogons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:16 PM (B2vkr)

The Barak Obama School of Pomes.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 02, 2024 01:27 PM (BdMk6)

74
I don't know, I saw a video where someone tried to melt chicken-wire with some rolled up newspaper which seemed to prove pretty definitively that fire doesn't melt steel.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 02, 2024 01:27 PM (nIvob)

75 What do you expect when you force people to research and write papers for a masters or doctorate.
Most fields, even hokey ones, have enough material to get a masters just in more study and no thesis. Expecting shitloads of new PhDs every year is ludicrous so unless they are willing to accept deadends instead of breakthoughs and the fact that average PhDs mean little to nothing you are going to get crap. Crap either way actually.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 01:27 PM (cOq4q)

76 I'm pretty sure it's written in the wall in the US House's Men's bathroom.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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You don't want to go there if you are a hetero male. Better off to declare yourself gender fluid and go to the ladies.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:27 PM (ZcPYF)

77 Turns out affirmative action didn't free the potential of minorities but rather lined the pockets and fattened the bank accounts of a few well-connected con artists.

A wholly unexpected and surprising result ....

My favorite part is the minorities still squatting in their hovels going on 40-50 years, sure as the sun rises that this year, this year for sure, the Democrats are going to deliver on their promises.

I hear they're getting a little rowdy up there in ChiTown. They'll probably send Obama Jesus to a church and get them the proper gospel of Joe Biden.
Mmmm, mmmmm, mmmmm!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 02, 2024 01:28 PM (C2U4G)

78 76 I'm pretty sure it's written in the wall in the US House's Men's bathroom.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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You don't want to go there if you are a hetero male. Better off to declare yourself gender fluid and go to the ladies.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:27 PM (ZcPYF)

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I can hold it until I get to the EPA's office.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

79 I can hold it until I get to the EPA's office.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Well played.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:29 PM (ZcPYF)

80 Did Jamaal really believe that the way to open a fire exit was to pull the shiny red "In Case of Fire - Pull" lever?

Possibly.

He probably doesn't know that 'panic bars' are on fire exits or what they are called.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 01:30 PM (cOq4q)

81 People like David Frum would have sex with their own fathers if there was a sinecure or stipend in it.

They think they are the shit, but they are not even players, just the political equivalent of groupies. Everyone who's a someone in the political ecosystem uses them and then doubtless laugh behind their backs about their permanently cock-shaped mouths.

Posted by: It's be more honorable if these creeps worked in a brothel at February 02, 2024 01:30 PM (L81HX)

82 You're a conspiracy theorist if you believe debris weakened the structure and fire from jet fuel contributed to the collapse of WTC 7.

I'm not saying that jokingly. That belief goes against the federal investigation and official statement on the collapse.

Posted by: Moron Robbie

What happened to WTC 7 is still a mystery to me.
I think that it was connected to the Two Towers by a subway tunnel, and "Stuff" may have been conveyed to WTC 7 that way to burn it.....but it is still a mystery to me what happened.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 02, 2024 01:30 PM (vcOmj)

83 I'm debating climbing Mt. Everest.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2024 01:30 PM (63Dwl)

84 Is that 'shocked face' salesman still around?

I could use another one for my collection.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 01:31 PM (xcxpd)

85 I hear they're getting a little rowdy up there in ChiTown. They'll probably send Obama Jesus to a church and get them the proper gospel of Joe Biden.
Mmmm, mmmmm, mmmmm!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Black Councilman in Chi Town was complaining about the illegals getting something like 9k per month to pay for everything they want. That kind of money would attract the population of about 95 percent of the world. Even from developed countries.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:31 PM (ZcPYF)

86 They think they are the shit,...
Posted by: It's be more honorable if these creeps worked in a brothel at February 02, 2024 01:30 PM (L81HX)

I have news for you. The ARE the shit

Posted by: B.L.Otto Schtumbler at February 02, 2024 01:31 PM (dzZCL)

87 They think they are the shit, but they are not even players, just the political equivalent of groupies. Everyone who's a someone in the political ecosystem uses them and then doubtless laugh behind their backs about their permanently cock-shaped mouths.
Posted by: It's be more honorable

Beltway bootlicks and Acela Corridor Courtesans.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2024 01:31 PM (IG4Id)

88 Can't crap on Bowman. I was a legit 29 when I knocked on doors because I thought Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan were the saviors this country desperately needed.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

How embarrassing! Not me! Gave hand jobs at the truck stop for money, lost thousands buying bath water from ethots, but didn't debase myself for Romney and Ryan. Honest!

Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 02, 2024 01:32 PM (JCZqz)

89 "Zeitgeist, similarly a product of the message board and chain email margins of the aughties web, is a 2007 film that goes beyond preposterous fantasies about the 2001 hijackings and argues that a ring of globalist bankers controls the Federal Reserve and periodically contrives national tragedies to compel the U.S. government to embark on wars and take out greater debt"

Umm....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 01:33 PM (xcxpd)

90 There were actual videos shown where molten aluminum was running out of the buildings prior to the collapse.
Was it an inside job?
In the years since then, I am beginning to believe that the Arab Hijackers were "MK-Ultra'd" by the CIA and this was done for a purpose.

Yeah. I'm willing to listen to the idea that George HW Bush and his CIA buddies arranged 9/11 to happen and that everything then proceeded exactly as we saw it.

I'm not in on the "controlled demolition" stuff or the "all the Jooos stayed home that day!" garbage. I knew someone that worked at NIST at the time and the physics all work out for everything collapsing with no further external stuff necessary.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:33 PM (2ocoG)

91 What happened to WTC 7 is still a mystery to me.
I think that it was connected to the Two Towers by a subway tunnel, and "Stuff" may have been conveyed to WTC 7 that way to burn it.....but it is still a mystery to me what happened.

==

caught fire, structural columns failed, building collapsed

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2024 01:33 PM (V13WU)

92 9/11 was an inside job, it's just not the inside job that many think it was.

Think Chauncy Gardner in Being There.

IC/LE NPC: WE LACKED THE IMAGINATION... DERP... WE LACKED THE IMAGINATION... DERP... WE LACKED.....

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 02, 2024 01:33 PM (rc3Z7)

93 81 People like David Frum would have sex with their own fathers if there was a sinecure or stipend in it.

They think they are the shit, but they are not even players, just the political equivalent of groupies. Everyone who's a someone in the political ecosystem uses them and then doubtless laugh behind their backs about their permanently cock-shaped mouths.
Posted by: It's be more honorable
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You have pretty much pegged a lot of the transient population of DC and its environs. Powerwhores with no conscience nor guilt.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:33 PM (ZcPYF)

94 Romney and Ryan.
(spits)

Posted by: B.L.Otto Schtumbler at February 02, 2024 01:33 PM (dzZCL)

95 So IT IS a story about DIE, CRT, and affirmative action. All culprits have similar amounts of melanin.

Posted by: Joedolph Biden at February 02, 2024 01:33 PM (17s+e)

96 Relentless Strong Bad

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2024 01:34 PM (63Dwl)

97 The best part remains the BBC reporting live that WTC 7 had tragically collapsed after being weakened by the attacks as WTC 7 remains standing in the background behind the reporter who is reporting live on WTC 7 collapsing.

youtu.be/0l9blqHHOyg?si=tjENFuZfUruXkbpP

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:34 PM (AIJ3L)

98 George W. Bush
(spits)

Posted by: B.L.Otto Schtumbler at February 02, 2024 01:34 PM (dzZCL)

99 Actually, him pulling the fire alarm was an inside job.

Straight up, yo.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2024 01:34 PM (lf83v)

100 96 Relentless Strong Bad
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2024 01:34 PM (63Dwl)

I miss Homestarrunner updates

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 01:35 PM (xcxpd)

101 Lest anyone misunderstand, I reject all conspiracy theory modalities and remain happy the PATRIOT Act was ready to go in such short notice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:36 PM (AIJ3L)

102 9/11 was an op run by a cult worshiping an eldritch abomination so that they could retrieve an artifact of power from underneath WT7.

Change my mind.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 02, 2024 01:36 PM (7fElN)

103 9/11 was an inside job, it's just not the inside job that many think it was.

Think Chauncy Gardner in Being There.

Not long after 9/11 an NSA whistleblower came out and said that his data analysis system had identified Atta was in the US and planning some sort of terror attack. He didn't know what or exactly when, but he brought it to his superior and was told to let it go and eventually fired because he wouldn't.

But...he wasn't fired because of Atta, 9/11, or some WoT conspiracy. He was fired because the program had identified a number of big named DC player, Condolezza Rice was one name dropped, were being paid off by China. And *that* you weren't allowed to look into.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 02, 2024 01:36 PM (ibTVg)

104 >>> In the years since then, I am beginning to believe that the Arab Hijackers were "MK-Ultra'd" by the CIA and this was done for a purpose.

KSM was involved in the "Bojinka Plot" a few years before.
They 'monitored' KSM after that, because, you know, until the Patriot Act they could not touch foreign terrorists overseas plotting attacks in America.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 01:36 PM (cOq4q)

105 opening up Iraq's oil for sale was another (this was before widespread fracking/horizontal drilling changed the amount of oil reserves available in the US).
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (vcOmj)

Oh good grief. Do a little fucking reaserch. Fracking and horizontal drilling had been going on for decades before 9/11.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 02, 2024 01:36 PM (BdMk6)

106 I was there on 9/11. If you think it was faked or an inside job according to those conspiracy theories you're not only wrong, you're an insidious idiot. Same for WTC 7. I have friends who worked in the building.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (OZtA4)

107 A great man
The mayor
Of the capital of a nation
Shares a room
With a pro
Booze and rock everywhere
Suddenly, Police!
Hmmm...
Bitch set him up

Posted by: Jamaal Bowman at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (OBuuS)

108 So IT IS a story about DIE, CRT, and affirmative action. All culprits have similar amounts of melanin.
Posted by: Joedolph Biden at February 02, 2024 01:33 PM (17s+e)

_____________

And intellect, if you'll pardon the exaggeration.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (osklw)

109 What happened to WTC 7 is still a mystery to me.
I think that it was connected to the Two Towers by a subway tunnel, and "Stuff" may have been conveyed to WTC 7 that way to burn it.....but it is still a mystery to me what happened.
Posted by: A face in the crowd

Reminder: WTC7 had a diesel fuel heating system with fuel lines up and down it. Given sufficient damage to the system, that fucker's toast.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (IG4Id)

110 89 "Zeitgeist, similarly a product of the message board and chain email margins of the aughties web, is a 2007 film that goes beyond preposterous fantasies about the 2001 hijackings and argues that a ring of globalist bankers controls the Federal Reserve and periodically contrives national tragedies to compel the U.S. government to embark on wars and take out greater debt"

Umm....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Pretty clear that every major institution has been corrupted and average citizens are watching shadows in the Cave as Plato noted. Those running institutions believe thoroughly in Platonic ideas as well using the Noble Lie like a cudgel and that the 1% are the Platonic Guardians of democracy. That is why they refer to it as our democracy--the 99% aren't in it.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (ZcPYF)

111 48 Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me, (with big yawning)

Posted by: Prostetnic Vogon Jelz at February 02, 2024 01:22 PM (l8gTz)

Stop plagiarizing Joe Biden!

Posted by: Auspex at February 02, 2024 01:38 PM (j4U/Z)

112 Jamaal is a poster child for affirmative action.

Unqualified, and allowed to exist by the bigotry of low expectations. He should have been out on his ass after the fire alarm thing. Real racists gave him a pass.

Posted by: DOYLE at February 02, 2024 01:38 PM (Z8Yh2)

113 What happened to WTC 7 is still a mystery to me.
I think that it was connected to the Two Towers by a subway tunnel, and "Stuff" may have been conveyed to WTC 7 that way to burn it.....but it is still a mystery to me what happened.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..

--

I don't know the details, either, but clearly the smart thing to do was to pull it. I know it was a tough decision, but there had already been a terrible loss of life that day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:39 PM (AIJ3L)

114 I don’t believe 9/11 was an inside job, but they sure had everything ready on short notice to take advantage of it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (u73oe)

115 >>> The Covid19 "Plandemic" made sheep out of a lot of Americans, and resulted in most people getting poorer, and the very rich getting very richer.
Do you think this was an accident?
Posted by: A face in the crowd.....

The self-appointed Karen Police were empowered by the Kung Flu Freakout lockdowns.

Like the old parlor game, "Who is a NAZI", some people thrive in an oppressive environment and get off turning others over to the Stasi.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (cOq4q)

116 Reminder: WTC7 had a diesel fuel heating system with fuel lines up and down it. Given sufficient damage to the system, that fucker's toast.

Diesel generator, and one of the floors was almost entirely a huge tank. Exactly the kind of building you wouldn't want flaming debris and molten aluminum raining down on.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (2ocoG)

117 Has Harvard given Aunt Becky her money back? Or did she bribe Yale?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (8Fdcq)

118 102 9/11 was an op run by a cult worshiping an eldritch abomination so that they could retrieve an artifact of power from underneath WT7.

Change my mind.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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A few stories had vaults of silver etc. under WT7. Yours makes a better plotline for a Lovecraftian horror story though.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (ZcPYF)

119 Reminder: WTC7 had a diesel fuel heating system with fuel lines up and down it. Given sufficient damage to the system, that fucker's toast.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

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This is a widely held conspiracy theory. From the nist.gov site:

"Did fuel oil systems in WTC 7 contribute to its collapse?

No. The building had three separate emergency power systems, all of which ran on diesel fuel. The worst-case scenarios associated with fires being fed by ruptured fuel lines-or from fuel stored in day tanks on the lower floors-could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated sufficient heat to weaken critical interior columns, and/or would have produced large amounts of visible smoke from the lower floors, which were not observed."

http://tinyurl.com/yaa2n2mr

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (AIJ3L)

120 106 I was there on 9/11. If you think it was faked or an inside job according to those conspiracy theories you're not only wrong, you're an insidious idiot. Same for WTC 7. I have friends who worked in the building.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (OZtA4)

Just like Jim Brady and David Hogg can't be wrong about guns. They were there and have absolute moral authority which must be obeyed, even if they aren't actually making any arguments.

Posted by: The Specter of Cindy Sheehan at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (L81HX)

121 > What happened to WTC 7 is still a mystery to me.
I think that it was connected to the Two Towers by a subway tunnel, and "Stuff" may have been conveyed to WTC 7 that way to burn it.....but it is still a mystery to me what happened.

Isn't WTC7 the one that looked fine from certain angles, but there is at least one picture from above that shows it's practically just a facade and the center of it is mostly gone?

If that's the one I'm thinking of, this is a solved mystery. The building was mostly destroyed by falling debris, then it collapsed to its compromised structural integrity.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (Odg76)

122 Reminder: WTC7 had a diesel fuel heating system with fuel lines up and down it. Given sufficient damage to the system, that fucker's toast.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (IG4Id)

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Interesting.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (JeYYB)

123 Ace, I don't quite get the "groundhog sees shadow [i.e., it's sunny] = more winter"/"groundhog does not see shadow [i.e., it's cloudy] = less winter" setup. But that deal of an event meaning its opposite goes back a long way in superstition. Remember, the witch-hunters believed that if the suspected witch *sank* (almost certainly to drown), she was innocent; if she floated (and lived), the water was rejecting the evil in her, thus she's a witch, execute her.

It makes no sense, but in its own warped way, it's consistent.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 02, 2024 01:41 PM (J2vNu)

124 117 Has Harvard given Aunt Becky her money back? Or did she bribe Yale?
Posted by: Northernlurker

Aunt Becky was down market, she connived to get her daughter into USC.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:41 PM (ZcPYF)

125 Pretty clear that every major institution has been corrupted and average citizens are watching shadows in the Cave as Plato noted. Those running institutions believe thoroughly in Platonic ideas as well using the Noble Lie like a cudgel and that the 1% are the Platonic Guardians of democracy. That is why they refer to it as our democracy--the 99% aren't in it.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (ZcPYF)

It's also not a democracy. Every once in a while, the Levithan stirs and we see something break the surface, but usually only when a body is discovered and then covered up.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 01:41 PM (xcxpd)

126 Pretty clear that every major institution has been corrupted and average citizens are watching shadows in the Cave as Plato noted.
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It's a grotto with apes bathing while eating figs. Plato had nothing on Barack.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 02, 2024 01:42 PM (Hpgos)

127 "Zeitgeist, similarly a product of the message board and chain email margins of the aughties web, is a 2007 film that goes beyond preposterous fantasies about the 2001 hijackings and argues that a ring of globalist bankers controls the Federal Reserve and periodically contrives national tragedies to compel the U.S. government to embark on wars and take out greater debt"

"A ring of globalist bankers" = the World Economic Forum?

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:42 PM (2ocoG)

128 Marcus, I believe it happened, and that it was -- at the very least -- allowed to happen by the fourth branch. And probably helped along a bit.

Hence, a Green Flag event. Atta and co. were given a green light.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 01:42 PM (/QIWP)

129 When we are lied to day in and day out, when "conspiracy theories" prove true, when we watch a presidential election's votes taken away from one candidate and given to another in real time, when "global warming" is the cause of every single problem on Earth and tackling it is the only solution, why, yes, I am willing to accept that 9/11 may have been an inside job, with at least some CIA involvement and components included. I was never this way before. I would get spitting mad whenever someone would propose this theory, but now I am not so sure.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 02, 2024 01:42 PM (7YG60)

130 23 Well, 9-11 was the first time that fire melted steel, you know . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade

Good thing Bethlehem Steel and US Steel had plenty of fairy dust and unicorn farts back in their heyday.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2024 01:17 PM (oZhq1)
__________

They were melting and working with steel literally thousands of years ago. Humans started working with steel -- primitive steel, but steel nonetheless -- during the middle to end of the Iron Age.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 02, 2024 01:43 PM (iFTx/)

131 Aunt Becky was down market, she connived to get her daughter into USC.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2

My mistake.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2024 01:43 PM (8Fdcq)

132 Now that I'm thinking about Obama Jesus ....

I wonder if the American blacks even notice that "super popular all over the world Obama" has been invisible on the world stage for 8 years now?

Like, zero invites to their Big Club luncheons and retreats. Zero photos of him hanging out with ... well, any leaders, past or present.

It's almost like he was a prop they used, they never liked, and don't need anymore.
His big post-presidency gig is ... glomming on to a W project to replace blacks with Hispanics.
Kinda a perfect deal--an insult, pity position given to the outcast kid, sitting by himself. And taking it, he expresses the disdain he has for blacks, openly working to replace them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at February 02, 2024 01:43 PM (C2U4G)

133 It's very easy to understand what happened to WTC 7. The AOA at which the plane hit the South Tower caused an enormous amount of fuel and debris to damage the building and start several fires. The debris from that jet was found as far north as Murray and Warren street. That along with several other factors including the collapse contributed to a decline in the structural integrity of the building. It's not really hard to understand.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:43 PM (OZtA4)

134 37 10 Well, 9-11 was the first time that fire melted steel, you know
Posted by: Elric Blade

More plagiarism! At least credit my work!!!
Posted by: Rosie ODonnell at February 02, 2024 01:20 PM (JCZqz)
_______

"Plagiarism? Huh? What's that? Never heard of it."

-- Claudine Gay

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 02, 2024 01:44 PM (iFTx/)

135 Hence, a Green Flag event. Atta and co. were given a green light.

It was even reported in the MSM at the time that the FBI knew bin Laden-associated Arabs were going to flight school and explicitly saying they didn't need to learn how to land. The field office in Arizona sent it up to DC and DC quashed it.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:44 PM (2ocoG)

136

Steel is a product of the white man's oppression of the colored.

And them Jews did it too to the colored man!

We must de-colonize steel and metallurgy because the Jew has taken it to places where oppression occurs!

That'll be five easy payments of 23 trillion dollars to Al Sharpton Enterprises LLC.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Chill Buzz at February 02, 2024 01:44 PM (vwLK6)

137 I think Sweetdick and Snuss are going to get a workout this afternoon.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2024 01:44 PM (LkLld)

138 It's also not a democracy. Every once in a while, the Levithan stirs and we see something break the surface, but usually only when a body is discovered and then covered up.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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All above is absolutely true.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (ZcPYF)

139 137 I think Sweetdick and Snuss are going to get a workout this afternoon.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2024 01:44 PM (LkLld)

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Afternoon delight?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

140 @103

>>And *that* you weren't allowed to look into.

Or Saudi's being spirited out of the country or us attacking Iraq? for 9/11 or lets create a surveillance and security panopticon and lets molest grannies at airports because we are incompetent f**ks, or any host of other hinky sh*t from that day.

A day of reckoning is coming, I hope that day is soon.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (rc3Z7)

141 I wish I had the surety I did 20 years ago. But, you could get me to listen to pretty much anything these days as far as crackpot theories and I'd give it a fair hearing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (1f506)

142 138 It's also not a democracy. Every once in a while, the Levithan stirs and we see something break the surface, but usually only when a body is discovered and then covered up.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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All above is absolutely true.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (ZcPYF)

========

And now I want to play Shadows of the Colossus again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

143 argues that a ring of globalist bankers controls the Federal Reserve and periodically contrives national tragedies to compel the U.S. government to embark on wars and take out greater debt

*glances furtively around the room...*

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (k6uu5)

144 Steel is a product of the white man's oppression of the colored.

And them Jews did it too to the colored man!

We must de-colonize steel and metallurgy because the Jew has taken it to places where oppression occurs!

They had video on Fox this morning of an ugly black woman saying there's no such thing as crime and Walgreens was closing stores simply to kill black people.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:46 PM (2ocoG)

145 141 I wish I had the surety I did 20 years ago. But, you could get me to listen to pretty much anything these days as far as crackpot theories and I'd give it a fair hearing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (1f506)

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100%

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:46 PM (JeYYB)

146 106 I was there on 9/11. If you think it was faked or an inside job according to those conspiracy theories you're not only wrong, you're an insidious idiot. Same for WTC 7. I have friends who worked in the building.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (OZtA4)

We need to do a 9/11 post, clear the air. The COBs ought to tap you to write the post.

Seriously.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 01:46 PM (xcxpd)

147 My mistake.
Posted by: Northernlurker
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I am sure Aunt Becky would have tried to get her kid into somewhere better but the kid apparently is not the sharpest tool in the shed. The kid is/was an internet influencer of course.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:46 PM (ZcPYF)

148 Sweet Dick and Snuss come on after Hardcastle and McCormick at 9pm. But before Tales of the Gold Monkey.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at February 02, 2024 01:46 PM (1f506)

149 I'm not entirely sure that the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma in 1995 didn't have fed involvement. There was the suspicious unidentified person hanging around suposedly. At the time I thought it may have been a muslim terrorist. But in light of recent events, I think fed involvement is more likely. Regardless, even if it were mostly true as reported, I'm pretty sure we don't have the full story.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (fs1hN)

150 A few stories had vaults of silver etc. under WT7. Yours makes a better plotline for a Lovecraftian horror story though.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (ZcPYF)
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F. Paul Wilson already did this in one of his Repairman Jack stories--"Ground Zero" I think.

Someone pushes a button at a key moment and the towers come down. Members of a cult (disguised as workers) remove an artifact from under WT7. It turns out to be a transformative artifact for one of the cultists to help out the Adversary.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (7fElN)

151 143 argues that a ring of globalist bankers controls the Federal Reserve and periodically contrives national tragedies to compel the U.S. government to embark on wars and take out greater debt

*glances furtively around the room...*
Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (k6uu5)

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Funny you should mention the Fed, the head of the Fed (I think) today said the economy is really good.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (JeYYB)

152 Same, Aetius. I just wonder why the 9/11 official narrative is the only one we are totally supposed to believe. Just that one.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (/QIWP)

153 120 106 I was there on 9/11. If you think it was faked or an inside job according to those conspiracy theories you're not only wrong, you're an insidious idiot. Same for WTC 7. I have friends who worked in the building.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (OZtA4)
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Same

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (iFTx/)

154 It's very easy to understand what happened to WTC 7. The AOA at which the plane hit the South Tower caused an enormous amount of fuel and debris to damage the building and start several fires. The debris from that jet was found as far north as Murray and Warren street. That along with several other factors including the collapse contributed to a decline in the structural integrity of the building. It's not really hard to understand.

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This.

Swivel chairs and post-it notes were burning around the columns and caused them all to collapse simultaneously.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (AIJ3L)

155 And now I want to play Shadows of the Colossus again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

Great game...strangely sad though...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (xcxpd)

156 There is zero fact based evidence to the theory the agency or anyone else had a direct role in 9/11. You're a kook if you repeat that. Look into the actual facts that are verifiable. All that crap people spout is fairy farts. There's nothing to it. Now if you want to say that incompetence and apathy played a part, I'm right there with you. There was enough for us to punch some of the principals tickets. We may not have known exactly what they were going to do, but we knew it was no good. Scary part? This is the story of our current border situation. I'm telling you right now, no bueno.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (OZtA4)

157 You usually pay double for a Snuss full of Sweetdick Honeycum.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (17s+e)

158 I don’t believe 9/11 was an inside job, but they sure had everything ready on short notice to take advantage of it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (u73oe)

Agree. It could have been a large meteor strike and the same pre-written policies would have been enacted.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (BdMk6)

159 They were melting and working with steel literally thousands of years ago. Humans started working with steel -- primitive steel, but steel nonetheless -- during the middle to end of the Iron Age.
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Those Viking steel swords and Arab Damascus steel. Those fuckers were sharp and strong.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 02, 2024 01:48 PM (Hpgos)

160 Here's the official explanation about the collapse caused by burning swivel chairs and post it notes for any non-conspiracy theorists:

nist.gov/pao/questions-and-answers-
about-nist-wtc-7-investigation

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:48 PM (AIJ3L)

161 "They" don't look at lives like you do. 3,000 dead to fire up the survelience state. Drop in the bucket.

"They" also put the covid sick into old folks homes. Couple more drops is all. The future terrorism victims from border crossers. Drops. All the weapons left behind in shithole x.

It really is a long list. Too long. Snickers needed.

Posted by: DOYLE at February 02, 2024 01:48 PM (Z8Yh2)

162 >>You usually pay double for a Snuss full of Sweetdick Honeycum.

We did.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2024 01:48 PM (LkLld)

163 They had video on Fox this morning of an ugly black woman saying there's no such thing as crime and Walgreens was closing stores simply to kill black people.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:46 PM (2ocoG)

_______________

This one aspires to be allowed into Club 85.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 01:48 PM (osklw)

164 106 I was there on 9/11. If you think it was faked or an inside job according to those conspiracy theories you're not only wrong, you're an insidious idiot. Same for WTC 7. I have friends who worked in the building.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:37 PM (OZtA4)

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No disrespect, but how does being there or working there automatically refute any theory someone may have?

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:49 PM (JeYYB)

165 141 I wish I had the surety I did 20 years ago. But, you could get me to listen to pretty much anything these days as far as crackpot theories and I'd give it a fair hearing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD
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We are in a post 'truth' world as far as accepting what our 1% say. Too much evidence to the contrary over the years along with ever increasing attempts to censor and remove inconvenient information from public view.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:49 PM (ZcPYF)

166 155 And now I want to play Shadows of the Colossus again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

Great game...strangely sad though...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (xcxpd)

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I see no strangeness in the sadness. It's laid out from the beginning: you're going to murder a series of beautiful colossi in order to try and save your lost love.

Even the steady payment one must make with one's soul as one goes makes sense.

I guess it's very Japanese.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

167 You know what was an inside job?

Pulling the fucking fire alarm.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 02, 2024 01:13 PM (wtvvX)
.......

also butt sechs in the Capitol.

Posted by: wth at February 02, 2024 01:49 PM (v0R5T)

168 Is believing AOC is dumb as a rock aconspiracy theory?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2024 01:50 PM (8Fdcq)

169 158 I don’t believe 9/11 was an inside job, but they sure had everything ready on short notice to take advantage of it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2024 01:40 PM (u73oe)

Agree. It could have been a large meteor strike and the same pre-written policies would have been enacted.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (BdMk6)
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Covid has entered the chat . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 02, 2024 01:50 PM (iFTx/)

170 F. Paul Wilson already did this in one of his Repairman Jack stories--"Ground Zero" I think.

Someone pushes a button at a key moment and the towers come down. Members of a cult (disguised as workers) remove an artifact from under WT7. It turns out to be a transformative artifact for one of the cultists to help out the Adversary.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

F. Paul Wilson is an interesting author. His Repairman Jack series though is pretty dark from what I remember. I prefer his LaNague series.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:50 PM (ZcPYF)

171 Is believing AOC is dumb as a rock aconspiracy theory?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2024 01:50 PM (8Fdcq)
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No.

Believing she isn't, though, ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:50 PM (B2vkr)

172 No, I do not buy the 'demolition' parts of the crackpot theories.

But the retarded star chamber/robed master bullshit. I could buy it.

The Greater Good.

We shall be as God's.

Yadda yadda.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at February 02, 2024 01:51 PM (1f506)

173 Our very own AtC and Emily Zanotti feel that trial lawyers have already caused a sea change in the "transitioning kids" situation. Prime evidence is the freaking NYTimes just published a think piece from the perspective of some de-transitioned kids and the aftermath of their "medical interventions."

I hope a whole lot of medical centers are bankrupted and their head butchers are buried in litigation. At a minimum.

http://tiny.cc/1jpmwz

Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2024 01:51 PM (Odg76)

174 "Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:49 PM (JeYYB)"

Read some of the conspiracy crap people have written. Any eyewitness could debunk most of it in 30 seconds. I watched both planes fly into the towers and the South one almost fried me. I was right there. I know what I saw. I can still see it.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:51 PM (OZtA4)

175 It was even reported in the MSM at the time that the FBI knew bin Laden-associated Arabs were going to flight school and explicitly saying they didn't need to learn how to land. The field office in Arizona sent it up to DC and DC quashed it.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:44 PM (2ocoG)

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So what does the FBI do all day, jerk off? The Russians warned them - TWICE - about the Tsarnaevs, and the FBI did sweet FA about them. Whenever some outrage takes place, they then claim that they were "on a watch list," or some such.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (osklw)

176 I'm debating climbing Mt. Everest.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2024 01:30 PM (63Dwl)
......

Don't forget to bring warm socks.

Posted by: wth at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (v0R5T)

177 Agree. It could have been a large meteor strike and the same pre-written policies would have been enacted.

Paul Ryan had nothing ready to pass when Trump took office, but the Patriot Act had already been written and was sitting in Pelosi's desk drawer when 9/11 happened.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (2ocoG)

178 No disrespect, but how does being there or working there automatically refute any theory someone may have?
Posted by: Seems Legit

To be fair to Marcus, some people theorize that it didn't happen at all. No planes. Seriously.

Other than that, yeah, proximity doesn't really refute anything else.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (/QIWP)

179 Oh, and he says he only explored these strange theories because... he was "debating pursuing a doctorate."
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This scans.

Posted by: ... at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (acnw3)

180 There are a lot of people that say the government is totally incompetent, then turn right around and say they pulled off a huge conspiracy, but no one knows.

You can't have it both ways

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (NtVYv)

181 174 "Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:49 PM (JeYYB)"

Read some of the conspiracy crap people have written. Any eyewitness could debunk most of it in 30 seconds. I watched both planes fly into the towers and the South one almost fried me. I was right there. I know what I saw. I can still see it.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:51 PM (OZtA4)

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Ahhhh, you're referring to those who think planes did not hit the buildings. I'm not one of those.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (JeYYB)

182 173 Our very own AtC and Emily Zanotti feel that trial lawyers have already caused a sea change in the "transitioning kids" situation. Prime evidence is the freaking NYTimes just published a think piece from the perspective of some de-transitioned kids and the aftermath of their "medical interventions."

I hope a whole lot of medical centers are bankrupted and their head butchers are buried in litigation. At a minimum.

http://tiny.cc/1jpmwz
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2024 01:51 PM (Odg76)

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And I'll again note my observation:

The vast (vast) majority of kids who went through this were put into it by their parents. This was progressives making mules of their next generation. Sad, but...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

183 could not have generated sufficient heat to weaken critical interior columns, and/or would have produced large amounts of visible smoke from the lower floors, which were not observed."

http://tinyurl.com/yaa2n2mr
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Weird coda at the end of that section:
"Several months after the WTC 7 collapse, a contractor recovered an estimated 23,000 gallons of fuel from these tanks. NIST estimated that the unaccounted fuel totaled 1,000 ±1,000 gallons of fuel (in other words, somewhere between 0 and 2,000 gallons, with 1,000 gallons the most likely figure). The fate of the fuel in the day tanks was unknown, so NIST assumed the worst-case scenario, namely that they were full on Sept. 11, 2001. The fate of the fuel of two 6,000 gallon tanks was also unknown. Therefore, NIST also assumed the worst-case scenario for these tanks, namely that all of the fuel would have been available to feed fires either at ground level or on the 5th floor."

So it fed the fires but didn't cause the "collapse". Uh, ok.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (IG4Id)

184 175 So what does the FBI do all day, jerk off? The Russians warned them - TWICE - about the Tsarnaevs, and the FBI did sweet FA about them. Whenever some outrage takes place, they then claim that they were "on a watch list," or some such.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (osklw)

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They fight for power within the federal apparatus with other fiefdoms in the executive branch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

185 Seeing that climber fall off Mt. Everest freaked me out. Movie, but still. There, than not there.

Posted by: DOYLE at February 02, 2024 01:53 PM (Z8Yh2)

186 So it fed the fires but didn't cause the "collapse". Uh, ok.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

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Yep. It's a rope-a-dope ouroboros.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 01:54 PM (AIJ3L)

187 So what does the FBI do all day, jerk off? The Russians warned them - TWICE - about the Tsarnaevs, and the FBI did sweet FA about them. Whenever some outrage takes place, they then claim that they were "on a watch list," or some such.

It's a running joke that if you're about to commit a major crime, the safest place to be is "on an FBI watch list".

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:54 PM (2ocoG)

188 If apes aren't eating figs then how can you even call it poetry

Posted by: ... at February 02, 2024 01:55 PM (acnw3)

189 This busty bikini brunette on the beach isn't a conspiracy theorist, but given how the various institutions have behaved for the past couple of decades, she longer dismisses them out of hand:
https://is.gd/Tjmw3j

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:55 PM (B2vkr)

190 If apes aren't eating figs then how can you even call it poetry

FINALLY, someone recognizes my genius!

Posted by: Barack Obama, Dog Eater at February 02, 2024 01:55 PM (2ocoG)

191 189 This busty bikini brunette on the beach isn't a conspiracy theorist, but given how the various institutions have behaved for the past couple of decades, she longer dismisses them out of hand:
https://is.gd/Tjmw3j
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:55 PM (B2vkr)

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So drunk that she needs her hand to balance herself while she's on her knees.

2/10

Would not bang.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:56 PM (GBKbO)

192 I've heard everything from they faked people jumping out of the towers, to the planes weren't really commercial jets, etc. Well, I also had friends on some of those flights or know people who did. They clearly PID the terrorists doing the op on all flights. They were clearly airliners, I saw them. The towers collapsed from the fire and damage. I was there for that too. The agency wasn't behind it there is zero proof for that. Some I'm a little confused whats left.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:56 PM (OZtA4)

193 Rescue Me had a character who was a 9/11 truther. I don't know why but it always infuriated me when someone insinuated that our government had anything to do with it.

I think a large part of that was me reflexively wanting to support a republican president. Also, the naivety of being 18 when it happened. I trusted the government. I remember going to a talk on campus and some guy had a petition against the Patriot Act. I thought he was a traitor.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 02, 2024 01:56 PM (KbCG3)

194 It's a running joke that if you're about to commit a major crime, the safest place to be is "on an FBI watch list".
Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:54 PM (2ocoG)

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TV shows like to portray the FBI as the best and brightest, fighting it out intellectually, physically, and psychologically to make the cut.

I think not.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:56 PM (JeYYB)

195 @174

>>I know what I saw. I can still see it.

Those planes did indeed fly into buildings killing everyone on board and on the ground.

Building imploded and fell to the ground from the physics of the event.

All of that sh*t happened.

It's everything before that day and after that day is what the conspiracy is.

No one with power and control lacked imagination about 9/11.

That's the inside job.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 02, 2024 01:56 PM (rc3Z7)

196 There are a lot of people that say the government is totally incompetent, then turn right around and say they pulled off a huge conspiracy, but no one knows.

_____________

I'll stick with incompetent.

Re massive conspiracies, recall that at one time only two people knew that Clinton was getting blowies in the Oval Office. Now natives in Borneo with bones through their noses know all about it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 01:56 PM (osklw)

197

If the FBEYE actually solved crimes and prevented them, what use would they be?

Who would pay them?

There are salaries and vacations involved!!!

They create the problem, they have the solution, they have the problem and the solution and can ensure there are plenty of problems.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Chill Buzz at February 02, 2024 01:57 PM (vwLK6)

198 This busty bikini brunette on the beach isn't a conspiracy theorist, but given how the various institutions have behaved for the past couple of decades, she longer dismisses them out of hand:
https://is.gd/Tjmw3j
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:55 PM (B2vkr)

——————-

If TJM doesn’t want this one, I’ll take her.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2024 01:57 PM (u73oe)

199 This busty bikini brunette on the beach isn't a conspiracy theorist, but given how the various institutions have behaved for the past couple of decades, she longer dismisses them out of hand:
https://is.gd/Tjmw3j
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at

I'd be interested in seeing her tan lines.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2024 01:57 PM (8Fdcq)

200 I can't stand Bowman. But Building 7's collapse from peripheral debris is bullshit.

Larry Silverstein said it was pulled on live television.

Posted by: Marleysghost at February 02, 2024 01:57 PM (uxXx0)

201 You can't have it both ways
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (NtVYv)

THIS IS VALID. There are things you always believe of the enemy: they are hyper competent and organized. They are monolithic in purpose. That kind of shit.

So I usually go for the theories that conform to taking advantage and suppression of opinion 2020, Covid, those kinds.) 2020 was remarkably hamfisted and laughable in execution, but they hammered that narrative to holy hell. And it worked.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at February 02, 2024 01:57 PM (1f506)

202 I believe planes piloted by 19 terrorists flew into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, and a field in PA. I believe the impact of those planes brought down the towers and building 7. Those are the facts I'm willing to believe.

Beyond that is anyone's guess.

Posted by: Phallus Dei at February 02, 2024 01:57 PM (7sx0H)

203 173 Our very own AtC and Emily Zanotti feel that trial lawyers have already caused a sea change in the "transitioning kids" situation. Prime evidence is the freaking NYTimes just published a think piece from the perspective of some de-transitioned kids and the aftermath of their "medical interventions."

I hope a whole lot of medical centers are bankrupted and their head butchers are buried in litigation. At a minimum.

http://tiny.cc/1jpmwz
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2024 01:51 PM (Odg76)
________________

This butchery will end up moving to Mexico where a lot of sketchy plastic and other cosmetic surgery already is.

You'd think "who would be so insane or desperate that they'd get life-changing, unalterable optional surgery in some shithole by some unqualified hack doctor where there is zero accountability or legal recourse in the event of the inevitable botched job?"

Answer: a surprisingly high number of people. I watched a documentary where some woman went to Mexico for a tummy tuck. It was like 10% of the price in USA. You know what they used for anesthesia? They put fucking ice cubes on her stomach. And still the woman went through with it. No words

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 02, 2024 01:57 PM (iFTx/)

204 It seems to me, back in 2010 the University of North Carolina had an issue with a number of academic departments. A number of legitimate issues were noted, but they were desperate to frame this exclusively as a sports department/athlete issue and not an academic scandal.

Athletes aren't dumb. If you're going pro, why wouldn't you take only the simplest classes available so you could focus on your true career goals.

Posted by: GuardianB at February 02, 2024 01:57 PM (oAs23)

205 You can foment an insurrection on video and not do a day thanks to the FBI.

Posted by: Ray Epps at February 02, 2024 01:58 PM (FSdPf)

206 In fact, I’ll just sign up to take all of TJMs rejects.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2024 01:58 PM (u73oe)

207 "Ahhhh, you're referring to those who think planes did not hit the buildings. I'm not one of those.
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (JeYYB)"

My favorite is they were U.S. military planes. Yeah, no. I can identify a lot of our aircraft. These were commercial jets. Heck the one came out of Newark.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:58 PM (OZtA4)

208
We may not have known exactly what they were going to do, but we knew it was no good. Scary part? This is the story of our current border situation. I'm telling you right now, no bueno.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM

Every day anymore is September 10th in this country. It's baked into the cake at this point. But Joe Biden got his new beach house in Delaware in return for selling his country out to Communist China.

History is gonna rake his sorry ass over the coals. If we're lucky. If we're not lucky the United States of China will applaud his heroic stance and all consuming efforts at bringing communism here.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 02, 2024 01:58 PM (nIvob)

209 TV shows like to portray the FBI as the best and brightest, fighting it out intellectually, physically, and psychologically to make the cut.

__________________

The legacy of J. Edgar Hoover. If you believe that, you presumably believe that dinosaurs exist because you watched Jurassic Park.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 01:58 PM (osklw)

210 206 In fact, I’ll just sign up to take all of TJMs rejects.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2024 01:58 PM (u73oe)

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*takes notes to start listing reasons to not bang Ackbar's girls*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

211 It wasn't until the 2bd year of Trump that ace finally, at least according to my memory, voiced disapproval of that Afghan war. He made his bones gir decades supporting that war. The first 1500+ Americans killed there Ace didn't care about as much as the last 16 who, apparently , Biden personally was responsible for. Killing
Lol the left were called traitors got not supporting that war
We no longer hear the word "quagmire" it leaves a bad taste in the mouth

Posted by: Paul banned at February 02, 2024 01:59 PM (/whhg)

212 I'd be interested in seeing her tan lines.
Posted by: Northernlurker

Indeed. And carefully searching for tattoos.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 01:59 PM (/QIWP)

213 I used to look at 9/11 truthers as crazy (and still do for most of what they contend) but I think it is obvious that the government knew more than they lot on. Specifically about Saudi involvement.

I never will understand why all the Bin Laden's were escorted on a private plane out of the US instantly by our government while all other air traffic was grounded.

Posted by: Blago at February 02, 2024 02:00 PM (wMRY8)

214 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 02, 2024 01:41 PM (J2vNu)

The "shadow" can be interpreted as sin. Sort of like eating from the tree of knowledge. It's, very interesting when you look up the roots and interpretations over centuries.

Posted by: ... at February 02, 2024 02:00 PM (acnw3)

215 You guys smell shit ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 02, 2024 02:00 PM (NtVYv)

216 There are a lot of people that say the government is totally incompetent, then turn right around and say they pulled off a huge conspiracy, but no one knows.

-

?

Ty'Meeka down at the Baltimore benefits office is part of the behemoth but wouldn't have much to do with monitoring and/or shaping terrorist threats to achieve a goal. She's definitely not driving down to conservative speeches or gay nightclubs to help shooters get their parties started.

But small groups? Sure. They can get some people to shake fences.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 02:00 PM (AIJ3L)

217 Posted by: Paul banned at February 02, 2024 01:59 PM (/whhg)

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I remember when Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

218 I've come across people who believe the moon landings are a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2024 02:00 PM (8Fdcq)

219 One thing you don't hear a lot of are fireman presenting conspicay theories on 9-11. You know, as subject matter experts that they had to have been blown up.

Maybe because it is not so common knowledge that steel structures are more likely to collapse in a fire than timber frames. This was noticed at the turn of the (last) century. All firemen, architects, building engineers know this.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 02:00 PM (cOq4q)

220 Athletes aren't dumb.
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Yeah, they are. Watch them in interviews. They weren't selected for intellect, they were selected for athletic prowess, so intellectually you get what you get.

Conversely, if you take towering intellects from the top of the class, how good a football team would they make?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 02:01 PM (osklw)

221 The best 9/11 conspiracy I read included: the US Air Force, the FBI, the CIA and one of the major owners of the WTC, TIAA-CREF (a pension fund).

Posted by: SMOD at February 02, 2024 02:01 PM (RHGPo)

222 * takes notes to start listing reasons to not bang Ackbar's girls*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

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Yeah, I didn’t really think that one through.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2024 02:01 PM (u73oe)

223 @213

>>Specifically about Saudi involvement.

Hey, 19 men, mostly Saudi's perpetrate the most destructive terrorist event in world history, so... we do regime change in Iraq???

Uhh huhh.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 02, 2024 02:01 PM (rc3Z7)

224 F. Paul Wilson is an interesting author. His Repairman Jack series though is pretty dark from what I remember. I prefer his LaNague series.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 01:50 PM (ZcPYF)
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His whole "Secret History of the World" is pretty fascinating. The final book in the series, "Nightworld" is just downright terrifying. The entire planet is very nearly sucked into an alternate universe made up of "Otherness" inimical to all life on Earth.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 02, 2024 02:02 PM (7fElN)

225 Easier to belive:

@BehizyTweets
BREAKING: New FOIA documents reveal that the Department of Justice and FBI uncovered alarming 2020 election ballot fraud in Detroit, Michigan but covered it up

In the emails, a DOJ official says "This allegation, and accompanying photos, is alarming. I would like FBI to look into this please." ...
twitter.com/BehizyTweets/status/1753476409077404046

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2024 02:02 PM (IG4Id)

226 Our government would never work with nefarious groups to achieve their own ends. The whole thing is ridiculous in it's surface. It was a couple dozen lone wolves. End of.

Posted by: ... at February 02, 2024 02:02 PM (acnw3)

227 Occams Razor applies here. What would even be the premise for an Op like that? We didn't need it to go into Iraq. That was just shit they threw at the wall along with WMD's and the years of conflict. There isn't even a factual basis to make that argument.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 02:02 PM (OZtA4)

228 Oh go ahead and fuck yourself and your pathetic memory, Paul. I remember when lefties were calling Afghanistan 'the only good war.' You all are fucking snakes who change whichever way the wind and advantage blowing you choad guzzling little fuckwit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at February 02, 2024 02:02 PM (1f506)

229 Breaking: Fani Willis admits relationship with Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum, Powerschlong at Law

Posted by: B.L.Otto Schtumbler at February 02, 2024 02:02 PM (dzZCL)

230 I believe Paul is failed AI.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2024 02:02 PM (8Fdcq)

231 Senate GOP Claim FBI Erased Records Connected to Memo Targeting Catholics

“The Ranking Members asked for copies of the correspondence between the intelligence analysts who drafted the Richmond memo and anyone of higher rank related to the report, an unredacted copy of the Domain Perspective memo, and a copy of all reports issued within FBI or DOJ within the past five years alleging a link between any primarily-religious or conservative association or entity and violent extremism,” stressed the senators.

It’s pretty suspicious that everything has disappeared, and the FBI remains quiet.

Posted by: SMOD at February 02, 2024 02:03 PM (RHGPo)

232 228 Oh go ahead and fuck yourself and your pathetic memory, Paul. I remember when lefties were calling Afghanistan 'the only good war.' You all are fucking snakes who change whichever way the wind and advantage blowing you choad guzzling little fuckwit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at February 02, 2024 02:02 PM (1f506)

Mmm...more poetry

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 02:03 PM (xcxpd)

233 *takes notes to start listing reasons to not bang Ackbar's girls*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies at February 02, 2024 01:58 PM

Let me help.

Reason 1: They're Ackbar's girls.

Reason 2: See Reason 1, supra.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 02, 2024 02:03 PM (Wnv9h)

234 Athletes aren't dumb.
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Yeah, they are. Watch them in interviews. They weren't selected for intellect, they were selected for athletic prowess, so intellectually you get what you get.

Conversely, if you take towering intellects from the top of the class, how good a football team would they make?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 02:01 PM (osklw)

Athletes are imbeciles.

Now strippers though, they're brilliant and considerate.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2024 02:03 PM (dGCAG)

235 Harvard's objective is not to produce doctors and lawyers, it is to indoctrinate radical communists. To believe in communism you have to be stupid, so Harvard doesn't give a shit about the plagiarism of it's rising stars.

They let career C student, David Hogg in on a full scholarship. He gave one (terrible) speech after a mass shooting and Harvard said this guy is an 95 pound, effeminate, semi-retarded buttfucker... we need him here.

They keep Asians out because no matter how they vote on election day, they are primarily hard conservative in the home. They also study hard and have no time to take part in the extra curricular radical protesting shit, so they are a waste of Harvard's time.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 02, 2024 02:03 PM (xw1WS)

236 228 Oh go ahead and fuck yourself and your pathetic memory, Paul. I remember when lefties were calling Afghanistan 'the only good war.' You all are fucking snakes who change whichever way the wind and advantage blowing you choad guzzling little fuckwit.
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True and well stated.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 02, 2024 02:03 PM (Hpgos)

237 BREAKING: BIG FANI ADMITS SHE WAS DIPPING INTO THE COMPANY BOOTY!!

J6, Fulton, Mar-a-Lago Cases Against Trump to COLLAPSE

Posted by: B.L.Otto Schtumbler at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (dzZCL)

238 Paul Ryan had nothing ready to pass when Trump took office, but the Patriot Act had already been written and was sitting in Pelosi's desk drawer when 9/11 happened.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2024 01:52 PM (2ocoG)

Think back a few years before that. Wasn't it amazing how quickly the dems had a complete national healthcare plan ready to go within weeks of Barky's inauguration?

And as for Ryan, wasn't DC convinced that the Hildebeast was going to win in a landslide victory?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (BdMk6)

239 TIAA-CREF (a pension fund)

______________

A pension fund for university faculty. (Cue spooky music.)

The truth is out there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (osklw)

240 The British TV reporter reporting that WTC7 had collapsed, while it was in fact in the background, is still slightly fascinating to me.

Just a little weird.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (/QIWP)

241 That is if failed AI can engage in chronic self abuse.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (8Fdcq)

242 I do try to be nice.

Posted by: DOYLE at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (Z8Yh2)

243 911 was a conspiracy and the FBI watched it happen in real time with us.

I was in the tub soaking before work and when the radio went off on it I knew immediately whodunit. I betcha the FBI did too.

Jaamal? Probably wondering why things on walls near doors say 'FIRE' on them. I really need to send him one. I have a bunch.

Posted by: torabora at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (FSdPf)

244
It's just like covid. Sure it ended up with an astonishingly convenient power grab but we had nothing to do with its origin. It was a lone wolf bat.

Posted by: ... at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (acnw3)

245 Gosh, Ace. It's been over a week. I'm starting to think you just don't want to let go of Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum's powerschlong.

NTTAwWT

Posted by: Muldoon at February 02, 2024 02:05 PM (991eG)

246 One thing you don't hear a lot of are fireman presenting conspicay theories on 9-11. You know, as subject matter experts that they had to have been blown up.

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There were a bunch not long after 9/11 but, same as all the other discussion, it died off. Now no one really cares because we just went through the fake COVID stuff and are getting ready for nuclear war and who has time for noticing that this might've happened before?

Not to mention the news won't even report on actual things that are happening today. There's no way there's going to be some silly nonsense from 20+ years ago discussed when there are tranny genocides occurring nationwide.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Beau Beau Beau, Beau Beau Iran at February 02, 2024 02:05 PM (AIJ3L)

247 His whole "Secret History of the World" is pretty fascinating. The final book in the series, "Nightworld" is just downright terrifying. The entire planet is very nearly sucked into an alternate universe made up of "Otherness" inimical to all life on Earth.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Did not know about that series--thanks. Have a certain tolerance for 'dark' stories to a limit but read enough horrendous real life circumstances in my dayjob.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 02:05 PM (ZcPYF)

248 Now strippers though, they're brilliant and considerate.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2024 02:03 PM (dGCAG)
____________

They're just working their way through college!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 02:05 PM (osklw)

249 Is blowing/blows, etc etc

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at February 02, 2024 02:06 PM (1f506)

250 I don't disagree with the war in Afghanistan. I disagree with the way DoS and the civilians lost it after we won it in a year.

That said, I'd like to leave Paul NW of Lashkar Gar near the canal, tied up with no pants and a big bow on him.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 02:06 PM (OZtA4)

251 @231

>>It’s pretty suspicious that everything has disappeared, and the FBI remains quiet.

Everything is supposed to be logged/memorandized in The Sentinel System, if it has been wiped from that there should be a trail of who wiped it.

I don't think everyone knows how things actually work in the FED/GOV/LE/IC.

And that's a problem.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 02, 2024 02:06 PM (rc3Z7)

252 "It is brain surgery in this case"

Next, it will be rocket scientists.

Wait, I think that's already infected.

Posted by: Ripley at February 02, 2024 02:06 PM (JojsZ)

253 9/11 got patriots to fight tooth and nail to create the chains that now bind them but it's probably just a coincidence.

Posted by: ... at February 02, 2024 02:07 PM (acnw3)

254 So what does the FBI do all day, jerk off? The Russians warned them - TWICE - about the Tsarnaevs, and the FBI did sweet FA about them.

The older one was also a drug dealer that murdered a guy in MA years ago but the local/state cops failed as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 02, 2024 02:07 PM (ibTVg)

255 These days, I'm about as receptive to any conspiracy theory as anybody, but I've never been able to grip anything related to 9/11... other than after the fact.

Yes, the NWO was circle jerking each other, at the prospect of perpetual war, strengthening the Deep State through the Patriot Act, and causing general mayhem around the globe.

But they were too stupid to connect the dots on a bunch of goat f**kers who were learning to fly (but not land) planes, and whooping it up, partying like they were about to die, on expired visas and conspicuous spending on booze and hookers.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 02, 2024 02:07 PM (dGCAG)

256 College was no problem guyz.

Posted by: David Hogg at February 02, 2024 02:08 PM (OZjDX)

257 240 The British TV reporter reporting that WTC7 had collapsed, while it was in fact in the background, is still slightly fascinating to me.

Just a little weird.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (/QIWP)

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This is my hang-up, a lot of weird stuff like what you mentioned.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 02, 2024 02:08 PM (JeYYB)

258 Is there any evidence Paul is a living, breathing human being?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 02, 2024 02:08 PM (8Fdcq)

259 >>I remember when Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War.

And Hillary, and Kerry, and Schumer, and on and on.

There were few prominent Democrats who weren't fully onboard with the Iraq war before it started.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2024 02:08 PM (LkLld)

260 This busty bikini brunette on the beach isn't a conspiracy theorist, but given how the various institutions have behaved for the past couple of decades, she longer dismisses them out of hand:
https://is.gd/Tjmw3j
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2024 01:55 PM (B2vkr)

Nice proportions, great skin...just about perfect

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 02:08 PM (xcxpd)

261 Nood.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 02, 2024 02:08 PM (IG4Id)

262 disapproval of that Afghan war
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Gotta respectfully disagree. Afghanistan is where bin Laden and his playmates organized and trained. Not to clean them out would've been a dereliction of duty, and almost certainly would have led to further attacks.

Now staying there and fighting after accomplishing the above, is another story. If that's what you're referring to, then I agree.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2024 02:08 PM (osklw)

263 The British TV reporter reporting that WTC7 had collapsed, while it was in fact in the background, is still slightly fascinating to me.

Just a little weird.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 02, 2024 02:04 PM (/QIWP)

WTC 7 was fiery but mostly peaceful?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 02, 2024 02:09 PM (xcxpd)

264 What are we? Chopped liver?

Posted by: Flat Earthers at February 02, 2024 02:11 PM (FSdPf)

265 Not to mention the news won't even report on actual things that are happening today. There's no way there's going to be some silly nonsense from 20+ years ago discussed when there are tranny genocides occurring nationwide.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

People still disagree about whether FDR knew about Pearl Harbor and let it happen. Ditto on Russian spies in the FDR and Truman administration etc. etc. Then you have the Kennedy and assorted assassinations, the USS Liberty attack, Dag Hammarskold, Kurt Waldheim UN deaths and scandals.

Simply put, governments around the world do horrendous unholy crap at the behest of evil fuckers whether it is permitting child molestation in Rotherham, permitting importing various amounts of harmful drugs, opening the border, purposefully losing Afghanistan and paying the Taliban tribute, and so on.

Then, like an octopus, they use their informants, pr flacks, and owned media/politicians/bureaucrats to spray black ink over everything to cloud issues.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2024 02:11 PM (ZcPYF)

266 Well, 9-11 was the first time that fire melted steel, you know . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade

Good thing Bethlehem Steel and US Steel had plenty of fairy dust and unicorn farts back in their heyday.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 02, 2024 01:17 PM (oZhq1)

1) These "fire can't melt steel" retards don't understand that the crystalline structure of steel changes at about 800 degrees C. Steel becomes much more plastic before it ever becomes molten. The burning JP-5 ignited the furnishing: plenty of fuel inside an enclosed space to get that hot.

2) The floors of the Twin Towers were supported by triangle-shaped trusses rather than I-beams. Lots of weight-saving until you have 7th Century savage fly jetliners full of JP-5 into the buildings.

3) The collapse looked like a demolition because there was no external force exerted on the structure once the floors started giving way. Once that process started, the floors were just going to fall vertically.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 02, 2024 02:13 PM (pJWtt)

267 >>> @BehizyTweets
BREAKING: New FOIA documents reveal that the Department of Justice and FBI uncovered alarming 2020 election ballot fraud in Detroit, Michigan but covered it up

Fraud in Detroit?
Another one for the 'No Shit Sherlock" file.

Fraud was found there but nothing done because it was to benefit Hillary but Trump won anyway.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 02:13 PM (cOq4q)

268 It's pretty obvious that the globull elitists foment chaos and load us up with unserviceable debt.

Fight me.

Posted by: torabora at February 02, 2024 02:14 PM (FSdPf)

269 Hillary did get more votes than Trump. A few million more.
But I thank our lucky stars that she got schlonged by Trump.

Posted by: torabora at February 02, 2024 02:16 PM (FSdPf)

270 The British TV reporter reporting that WTC7 had collapsed, while it was in fact in the background, is still slightly fascinating to me.

Just a little weird.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus

Tape delay.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 02:16 PM (cOq4q)

271 What I find interesting is nobody was sued for defamation when it came to 9/11 conspiracy theories because it benefited the Left to pretend Bush orchestrated it.

But when Alex Jones says a school shooting is a false flag operation, he gets a judgement of like $500 million dollars.

Or when Rudy Giuliani says there was election fraud, he loses his life savings.

Posted by: Blago at February 02, 2024 02:18 PM (BDBQq)

272 This is not just a story about DEI; it’s a story about an academy-wide collapse in standards.

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I'm sorry, but if everyone doesn't pass college then college is simply too hard.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, having ranked the Frank Capra movies
****
We're working on the problem too.

Posted by: California Bar Exam at February 02, 2024 02:19 PM (FSdPf)

273 Our constitution dictates that we elect representatives that reflect the inclinations of the population of that district. That is the bad news.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 02, 2024 02:22 PM (MeG8a)

274 2) The floors of the Twin Towers were supported by triangle-shaped trusses rather than I-beams. Lots of weight-saving until you have 7th Century savage fly jetliners full of JP-5 into the buildings.

Bar joists.
Didn't matter what the floor construction was made of as once a floor load or two dropped to the floor below they would all pancake from there on down. By design floors only carry so much weight.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 02:23 PM (cOq4q)

275 What's everyone's go-to reason explaining "What's so funny?" after reacting to a "you know, like Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum's powerschlong." entry? The truth takes too long.

Posted by: jhawk90 at February 02, 2024 02:40 PM (MKoxD)

276 What do you expect when you force people to research and write papers for a masters or doctorate.
Most fields, even hokey ones, have enough material to get a masters just in more study and no thesis. Expecting shitloads of new PhDs every year is ludicrous so unless they are willing to accept deadends instead of breakthoughs and the fact that average PhDs mean little to nothing you are going to get crap. Crap either way actually.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 01:27 PM (cOq4q)

Even without fraud there is a thing called the LPU - Least Publishable Unit. A nugget of research is split up and farmed out to an array of grad students to get the most bang on everyone's CV for the buck.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 02, 2024 02:41 PM (eoQWY)

277 "The collapse of Building 7 was the result of a controlled demolition."

He's not wrong there. Problematic info that needed destroying. I do think the whole of 9/11 was not the way it was presented.

Just LOOK at what they accomplished as a result. Do you really think they would hesitate?

Yeah, I never would have believed this in 2001. Knowing what I know now, nothing is beyond these monsters.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 02, 2024 02:55 PM (w6EFb)

278 There is zero fact based evidence to the theory the agency or anyone else had a direct role in 9/11. You're a kook if you repeat that. Look into the actual facts that are verifiable. All that crap people spout is fairy farts. There's nothing to it. Now if you want to say that incompetence and apathy played a part, I'm right there with you. There was enough for us to punch some of the principals tickets. We may not have known exactly what they were going to do, but we knew it was no good. Scary part? This is the story of our current border situation. I'm telling you right now, no bueno.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2024 01:47 PM (OZtA4)

As with most of the JFK conspiracies, the best argument against the wide ranging theories is time. Decades have passed with no new evidence leaked or published of any credibility. There's a saying that no secret three people know is safe unless two of them are dead. How much more so something that would give a person fame and money to release that dozens, hundreds, thousands would need to know?

Posted by: Oldcat at February 02, 2024 02:57 PM (eoQWY)

279 2) The floors of the Twin Towers were supported by triangle-shaped trusses rather than I-beams. Lots of weight-saving until you have 7th Century savage fly jetliners full of JP-5 into the buildings.

Bar joists.
Didn't matter what the floor construction was made of as once a floor load or two dropped to the floor below they would all pancake from there on down. By design floors only carry so much weight.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 02, 2024 02:23 PM (cOq4q)

When I was a consultant I used to work in the Sears Tower skyscraper in Chicago, maybe 30 or 35 stories up. Many days you could feel the structure bend in the wind, by design.

This was also near the time the Hancock Building also in Chicago had to be redesigned because glass slabs would pop out and crash down to the ground on passersby. I remember the structures they had when working on this.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 02, 2024 03:02 PM (eoQWY)

280 Screwing around with the equipment and faking Climate Change for big grants from Biden

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 02, 2024 05:12 PM (wGqjj)

281 I also wrote a poem:

In 1992, the FBI used their Blind Sheik Team to bomb the World Trade Center.

Because of their incompetence in placing the bomb, it failed to flatten the building, and hence their attempt at a Deep State Dictatorship then.

In 2001, they came back. "Dirty" Bob Mueller (take a look at his family tree sometime) was able to use his agent Anwar al-Awlaki and his al-Quaeda Team to attack America. After this attack, they were finally able to pass the Patriot Act to build the Brotherhood, and to facilitate Endless War abroad and Police State Tyranny here at home.

After the Ft. Hood Op, Obama droned al-Awlaki to silence him forever.

The Deep State used all these Brotherhood terrorists to attack America.

And now Obama and his Bankster Owners are funding and using Iran and the Houthis to attack us.

They are not the enemy, per se. They are merely the tool of the Real Enemy.

Hey, Barry. Lookin' at you, bitch.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 02, 2024 07:05 PM (Li/Yn)

282 9/11 was a false flag attack done by Israel with the help of the Bush administration. It was done to get the U.S. to destroy Israel's enemies in the Middle East. Israel has a long, long history of false flag attacks:

http://tinyurl.com/495ab56c

Posted by: William at February 04, 2024 05:04 AM (g/uE4)

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