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THE MORNING RANT: Will The Baltimore Sun’s New Owner Make It a Right-Wing Paper, and How Would One Actually Go About Doing That?
A local buyer taking over a struggling newspaper in the 21st century is normally cause for some celebration. But The Baltimore Sun’s newly announced owner has a very specific political background, and some are concerned about what the 187-year-old publication could become.“…and some are concerned…” is an example of the awful journalism that the Sun’s new ownership should seek to keep off of its pages. “Some people” is a lazy journalistic euphemism which really means “left-wing activists such as me.”
NBC is not taking this news well. (This following story is actually from MSNBC, but that is the authentic, unfiltered political voice of Comcast/NBC and its various outlets.) “Why the right-wing takeover of Maryland’s largest newspaper is ringing alarm bells” [MSNBC – 01/21/2024]
Sinclair Inc. Executive Chairman David D. Smith has purchased The Baltimore Sun, the largest newspaper in Maryland. As the longtime leader of the notoriously right-wing local-TV news giant, again and again Smith has used his ample resources to advance a conservative agenda. Now his potential reach will only grow.Journalists sure do seem bothered about unapproved topics and opinions not being suppressed, don’t they? John Harwood is a rabidly partisan left-wing activist who has somehow found employment as an “objective journalist” at major US media outlets. As an “objective journalist,” he is completely unhinged that a metro newspaper near Washington DC might not be a mouthpiece for the left’s agenda.
• To start, it would have to embrace (John) O’Sullivan’s Law that "All organizations that are not explicitly right-wing will over time become left-wing." At a minimum, a fundamental principle of the organization would be to assertively purge it of left-wing writers and to keep left-wing bias out of news reporting.
• There would not be coverage of national politics. There are countless other resources for that coverage.
• While coverage of polling about state and local political races could be allowed, there would be no coverage of polls regarding topical issues. For instance, you would never see another story about a poll in which a majority of citizens believe the local utility should replace natural gas with unicorn emissions.
• All existing “opinion journalists” still on staff would be terminated. Any future opinion pieces would strictly be about state and local politics, and written by contributors, not employees. The conservative side of issues must always be presented, although a liberal counterpoint could also be presented.
• There would be no political endorsements.
• All senior editor positions would be replaced by non-journalists who are challenged to root out any and all left-wing bias.
• Inserting bias through context would be prohibited and purged by the new editors. The word “despite” would be flagged for a closer look, as it is a favorite of left-wing writers to frame opinion. (e.g. “Despite concerns about his questionable business ties, Representative Smith (R-GA) continues to…”)
• References to “experts,” “some people,” and “sources say” would be prohibited. These are invariably the writer’s own opinion.
• No small subset of a group will be presented as speaking for the entire group. For example, “Doctors are alarmed about…” or “Parents are raising concern about…”
• Stories about “climate change” would be prohibited, as would any reference to climate in stories about weather events.
• Since the curriculum of most college Schools of Journalism pretty much requires the embrace of anti-American wokeness and racial obsession to pass, a degree in Journalism for writers would not only be unnecessary, but actively discouraged.
Comments
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Not late!?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:02 AM (N1tpc)
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Will The Baltimore Sun’s New Owner Make It a Right-Wing Paper, and How Would One Actually Go About Doing That?
Present a balanced view of the news. Drop all editorials. Remove bylines from all stories. Eliminate op-ed columnists. Refuse to hire any J-school graduates.
Will The Baltimore Sun’s New Owner Make It a Right-Wing Paper, and How Would One Actually Go About Doing That?
Present a balanced view of the news. Drop all editorials. Remove bylines from all stories. Eliminate op-ed columnists. Refuse to hire any J-school graduates.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2024 11:02 AM (MoZTd)
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Wow, sponge is REALLY falling down today.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:02 AM (N1tpc)
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Keeping the editorializing on the editorial page and out of the "news" would be a nice first step.
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:03 AM (AwYPR)
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To start, it would have to embrace (John) O’Sullivan’s Law that "All organizations that are not explicitly right-wing will over time become left-wing."
I thought that was Robert Conquest.
I thought that was Robert Conquest.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 11:04 AM (9yWhg)
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Posted by: Theodore at January 29, 2024 11:04 AM (pGonq)
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I’d read papers if they were worth a damn. The San Antonio Express News has long descended into hackery. The Amarillo paper is what I deride as the “Amarillo Community Calendar”, because if the headlines are of any indication, they do nothing g but puff pieces instead of hard hitting journalism putting the city and county governments under a microscope.
For the most part there really is no difference between most U.S. papers and Neues Deutschland. Like other media outlets, they are simply Statist mouthpieces.
For the most part there really is no difference between most U.S. papers and Neues Deutschland. Like other media outlets, they are simply Statist mouthpieces.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (i3Uyc)
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First off... buying a newspaper seems like a bad business decision. Regardless of its purported circulation.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (Q4IgG)
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A republic, if you can keep it.
A republic, if you can keep it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (xG4kz)
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It's the lowest-level staff, the reporters, who decide upon the slant of a paper's journalism. Note that the Wall Street Journal has a conservative editorial position, but that its reportage is as left-leaning as any other paper of its size.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (Nmmyc)
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I thought that was Robert Conquest.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 11:04 AM (9yWhg)
I thought O'Sullivan was a boxer.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 11:04 AM (9yWhg)
I thought O'Sullivan was a boxer.
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (AwYPR)
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I'd not limit it to Journalism majors. Start simply eliminating anyone who attended a liberal college and/or graduated from any non-explicitly conservative college in the past dozen years.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (N1tpc)
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The Left has been frothing at the mouth for years over Sinclair's ownership of local TV stations, which aren't as relentlessly left-wing as the other local TV stations.
For example, it is "right-wing" and "objectively fascist" for Portland's Sinclair station to accurately document all the homeless and all the junkies in downtown Portland, since that makes left-wing governance look bad.
So, Sinclair has some experience building non-Left media properties.
For example, it is "right-wing" and "objectively fascist" for Portland's Sinclair station to accurately document all the homeless and all the junkies in downtown Portland, since that makes left-wing governance look bad.
So, Sinclair has some experience building non-Left media properties.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (YAtuc)
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More big titty girls on the back of the front section.
Posted by: page 3 at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (5GWDq)
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I swear that I'm not sure if red wine or white goes with journalists suffering.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (4olE8)
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No balanced, unbiased journalism exists. Papers and other media outlets should just declare their biases and be done with it.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 29, 2024 11:08 AM (i3Uyc)
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Shut up, they explained.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 29, 2024 11:08 AM (aD39U)
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Who, what, where, when, how. Save your opinion for the last paragraph which we will not print.
Who, what, where, when, how. Save your opinion for the last paragraph which we will not print.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 29, 2024 11:08 AM (nIvob)
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"This happened here"
That's all that news needs to report. That the "reporters" do more than that every single time is why people are laughing and cheering at them losing their jobs.
That's all that news needs to report. That the "reporters" do more than that every single time is why people are laughing and cheering at them losing their jobs.
Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 29, 2024 11:08 AM (k1AR8)
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The Sun is H.L. Mencken's paper, rite? Let's get back to real objective intellect in newspapers.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 29, 2024 11:08 AM (gLYp7)
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For instance, you would never see another story about a poll in which a majority of citizens believe the local utility should replace natural gas with unicorn emissions.
I don't need your dirty fossil fuels all the energy I need comes clean from the outlets in my house!
I don't need your dirty fossil fuels all the energy I need comes clean from the outlets in my house!
Posted by: Some leftist at January 29, 2024 11:08 AM (ibTVg)
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Right wing or not, I have real doubts about the viability of newspapers as we've come to define them. I think dead tree is well and truly dead, so online is the only way forward. However, there are other avenues to get news without the bias, e.g. this site. Granted, it's not a generator of base news, it's a commentary site, but still, in the age of ubiquitous cameras, how much of the old intermediary media is required?
The best hope is to emulate an outfit like Epoch Times, but I don't know how well they're doing financially.
The best hope is to emulate an outfit like Epoch Times, but I don't know how well they're doing financially.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:08 AM (CsUN+)
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Has "notoriously left-wing" ever been used in print? Yeah, didn't think so either.
Twitter/X has been hilarious for the last week plus because of people bullying journalists.
Twitter/X has been hilarious for the last week plus because of people bullying journalists.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:08 AM (2ocoG)
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"How Would One Actually Go About Doing That?"
Report the truth, all of it.
No gate keeping.
What, where, who, when, how, and leave the why to the reader.
Just like olde tymes.
Make sure the editorial is all about asking the reader questions and leaving the reader to their own conclusions, not making statements.
"How Would One Actually Go About Doing That?"
Report the truth, all of it.
No gate keeping.
What, where, who, when, how, and leave the why to the reader.
Just like olde tymes.
Make sure the editorial is all about asking the reader questions and leaving the reader to their own conclusions, not making statements.
Posted by: Speller at January 29, 2024 11:09 AM (pSotA)
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I thought O'Sullivan was a boxer.
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (AwYPR)
If it’s the same guy I am thinking of, he wrote a good book called The President, The Pope and The Prime Minister.
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (AwYPR)
If it’s the same guy I am thinking of, he wrote a good book called The President, The Pope and The Prime Minister.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 29, 2024 11:09 AM (i3Uyc)
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Re post
KJP: The three soldiers killed over the weekend “were fighting on behalf of this administration.”
Gotcha there Rastafarian Raggedy Ann
Not Fighting to Defend this Country.
Another reason why recruiting and retention are in the toilet.
KJP: The three soldiers killed over the weekend “were fighting on behalf of this administration.”
Gotcha there Rastafarian Raggedy Ann
Not Fighting to Defend this Country.
Another reason why recruiting and retention are in the toilet.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2024 11:09 AM (lpPTQ)
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No balanced, unbiased journalism exists. Papers and other media outlets should just declare their biases and be done with it.
I've seen suggestions that journalists wear patches for their biases, a bit like NASCAR sponsors.
I've seen suggestions that journalists wear patches for their biases, a bit like NASCAR sponsors.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:09 AM (2ocoG)
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I would very much like to be a rich right-wing fanatic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:09 AM (gSZYf)
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All of those borderline NPR style lefty rags that are given out on every street corner for free and have all kinds of nonsensical crap in them = Good
One newspaper that people would need to pay for to read news articles that might not constantly say the same things = bad
One newspaper that people would need to pay for to read news articles that might not constantly say the same things = bad
Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 29, 2024 11:10 AM (k1AR8)
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Who in Baltimore actually reads and why are all the stories about people in Baltimore that don't read? Fix that and a newspaper would be successful.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 29, 2024 11:10 AM (gLYp7)
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The Epoch Times is awesome. It's got interesting non-political articles, too.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 11:11 AM (9yWhg)
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I’ve occasionally pondered what I would do if I were to purchase a local newspaper, or if a David Smith hired me to overhaul a local paper, and how I might recreate it as a local news source that would not advance a left-wing agenda. Just off the top of my head here are a few ideas.
All stories would have to read like a police report.
Who, what, why, when, where & how. No opinons.
You report. WE decide.
All stories would have to read like a police report.
Who, what, why, when, where & how. No opinons.
You report. WE decide.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2024 11:11 AM (SbJgO)
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I'd say it comes down to personnel, personnel is policy. Hire Conservatives across the board and hold them accountable to uphold (or spin) Conservative values.
Fire liberally.
Fire liberally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 29, 2024 11:11 AM (xcxpd)
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We had to put our dog down over the weekend (congestive heart failure). I keep looking over and expecting to see her curled up next to my desk as usual. It's going to take a while to get over this.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 29, 2024 10:00 AM (T+Iwg)
It's just a stupid dog, he said, as he wiped yet another tear away.
They do become family. Condolences.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 29, 2024 10:00 AM (T+Iwg)
It's just a stupid dog, he said, as he wiped yet another tear away.
They do become family. Condolences.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2024 11:11 AM (FCbAQ)
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Who in Baltimore actually reads and why are all the stories about people in Baltimore that don't read? Fix that and a newspaper would be successful.
Baltimore contains plenty of rich liberals. Just less so inside the actual city these days.
Baltimore contains plenty of rich liberals. Just less so inside the actual city these days.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:11 AM (2ocoG)
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No balanced, unbiased journalism exists. Papers and other media outlets should just declare their biases and be done with it.
And...it can't really.
If you have a narrow political window in your country and a relatively small government you can sort of pretend that unbiased journalism exists...which was say the US in the 50s/early 60s but as of right now we have maniacs on the left.
How does one cover say a law banning genital mutilation of children to turn them into trannies? The way I've phrased it is "rightwing" though 10 years ago would have been just considered normal and reasonable. The lefty take would be something like a law banning "gender affirming surgery" which is a bunch of word salad.
And...it can't really.
If you have a narrow political window in your country and a relatively small government you can sort of pretend that unbiased journalism exists...which was say the US in the 50s/early 60s but as of right now we have maniacs on the left.
How does one cover say a law banning genital mutilation of children to turn them into trannies? The way I've phrased it is "rightwing" though 10 years ago would have been just considered normal and reasonable. The lefty take would be something like a law banning "gender affirming surgery" which is a bunch of word salad.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:11 AM (ibTVg)
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28 I would very much like to be a rich right-wing fanatic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:09 AM (gSZYf)
All I need is to be rich and I'm already there....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:09 AM (gSZYf)
All I need is to be rich and I'm already there....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 29, 2024 11:11 AM (xcxpd)
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I would very much like to be a rich right-wing fanatic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:09 AM (gSZYf)
With an eye patch?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:09 AM (gSZYf)
With an eye patch?
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (AwYPR)
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Start simply eliminating anyone who attended a liberal college and/or graduated from any non-explicitly conservative college in the past dozen years.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (N1tpc)
and I thought I was bloodthirsty.
*tips hat*
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (N1tpc)
and I thought I was bloodthirsty.
*tips hat*
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (aD39U)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (lpPTQ)
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All of those borderline NPR style lefty rags that are given out on every street corner for free and have all kinds of nonsensical crap in them = Good
There was a bill in the Oregon legislature to provide State funding for all the left-wing rags and blogs in Oregon.
Didn't pass last time, but I'm sure it will come up again.
You have to preserve "local media", after all.
There was a bill in the Oregon legislature to provide State funding for all the left-wing rags and blogs in Oregon.
Didn't pass last time, but I'm sure it will come up again.
You have to preserve "local media", after all.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (YAtuc)
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I would very much like to be a rich right-wing fanatic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Wait, you aren't rich???? We've all been kissing up to you for nothing?????
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Wait, you aren't rich???? We've all been kissing up to you for nothing?????
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Speller at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (pSotA)
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All stories would have to read like a police report.
Who, what, why, when, where & how. No opinons.
You report. WE decide.
Not really, because the news they choose to cover is often what determines the slant. Think about Iowahawk's maxim about covering it with a pillow until it stops moving.
Who, what, why, when, where & how. No opinons.
You report. WE decide.
Not really, because the news they choose to cover is often what determines the slant. Think about Iowahawk's maxim about covering it with a pillow until it stops moving.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (CsUN+)
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So this "purging" of reporters. Does it involve the top floor of a high building?
Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (4olE8)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (MoZTd)
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One newspaper that people would need to pay for to read news articles that might not constantly say the same things = bad
I've seen the internal lefty discussions on this.
They believe that their ideas cannot compete with rightwing ideas because people are rayciss, stupid, and evil. So the only way to get people to embrace the correct ideas is to make sure those are the only ones they are exposed to.
I've seen the internal lefty discussions on this.
They believe that their ideas cannot compete with rightwing ideas because people are rayciss, stupid, and evil. So the only way to get people to embrace the correct ideas is to make sure those are the only ones they are exposed to.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (ibTVg)
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Good luck finding anyone other than woke "journalists" looking to advance Democrat-Communist interests -- that's the way they're indoctrinated in J School. Just like with Republican Presidents, the rank and file employees will start undermining the new owner from day one.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (qUkBO)
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First off... buying a newspaper seems like a bad business decision. Regardless of its purported circulation.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Yeah, it's a dying proposition. They're just going to get the Feds to send in chaotic actors to destroy it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Yeah, it's a dying proposition. They're just going to get the Feds to send in chaotic actors to destroy it.
Posted by: insta-thots at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (IG4Id)
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3 Wow, sponge is REALLY falling down today.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:02 AM (N1tpc)
we're all getting older, it happens. I just hope he didn't break a hip.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:02 AM (N1tpc)
we're all getting older, it happens. I just hope he didn't break a hip.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (xcxpd)
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Despite concerns about their money losing Left wing agenda, Left wind writers and editors still think they know how to run a newspaper (into the ground).
Posted by: SMOD at January 29, 2024 11:14 AM (RHGPo)
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A local buyer taking over a struggling newspaper in the 21st century is normally cause for some celebration. But The Baltimore Sun’s newly announced owner has a very specific political background, and some are concerned about what the 187-year-old publication could become.
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So a rich dude - who is likely establishment-friendly like most rich dudes, but is apparently not fully prog-aligned - buying a local newspaper is cause for "concern" because it is known that his politics are not radically postmodern.
But a hyper-rich dude who is fully prog-aligned buying a national newspaper - that is, Bezos buying the WaPo - is not a cause for "concern" because it is known that his politics are radically postmodern.
I never cease to be amused by the open and obvious.
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So a rich dude - who is likely establishment-friendly like most rich dudes, but is apparently not fully prog-aligned - buying a local newspaper is cause for "concern" because it is known that his politics are not radically postmodern.
But a hyper-rich dude who is fully prog-aligned buying a national newspaper - that is, Bezos buying the WaPo - is not a cause for "concern" because it is known that his politics are radically postmodern.
I never cease to be amused by the open and obvious.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:14 AM (mwCIn)
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I'd say it comes down to personnel, personnel is policy. Hire Conservatives across the board and hold them accountable to uphold (or spin) Conservative values.
Fire liberally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Day one: Fire the top three levels of 'leadership'.
Day two: Fire everyone that signed the petition bitching about Day one.
Day Three: Start putting out a decent product.
Fire liberally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Day one: Fire the top three levels of 'leadership'.
Day two: Fire everyone that signed the petition bitching about Day one.
Day Three: Start putting out a decent product.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:14 AM (IaTa3)
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:14 AM (CsUN+)
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48 Good luck finding anyone other than woke "journalists" looking to advance Democrat-Communist interests -- that's the way they're indoctrinated in J School. Just like with Republican Presidents, the rank and file employees will start undermining the new owner from day one.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (qUkBO)
Then don't hire J School grads. It's not like being a reporter is a skilled trade or an engineer. Any English major can do their job and they know it.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (qUkBO)
Then don't hire J School grads. It's not like being a reporter is a skilled trade or an engineer. Any English major can do their job and they know it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 29, 2024 11:14 AM (xcxpd)
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Not really, because the news they choose to cover is often what determines the slant. Think about Iowahawk's maxim about covering it with a pillow until it stops moving.
As an example of this lefties will often claim that it is impossible for there to be any election fraud. Why? Otherwise you'd see it on the news. So then I send them all the stories of people arrested for it only covered in local news and the argument becomes that fine its just isolated events or else it would be on the national news...
As an example of this lefties will often claim that it is impossible for there to be any election fraud. Why? Otherwise you'd see it on the news. So then I send them all the stories of people arrested for it only covered in local news and the argument becomes that fine its just isolated events or else it would be on the national news...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:15 AM (ibTVg)
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53 I'd say it comes down to personnel, personnel is policy. Hire Conservatives across the board and hold them accountable to uphold (or spin) Conservative values.
Fire liberally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Day one: Fire the top three levels of 'leadership'.
Day two: Fire everyone that signed the petition bitching about Day one.
Day Three: Start putting out a decent product.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:14 AM (IaTa3)
Tony Pete is on to something here
Fire liberally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Day one: Fire the top three levels of 'leadership'.
Day two: Fire everyone that signed the petition bitching about Day one.
Day Three: Start putting out a decent product.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:14 AM (IaTa3)
Tony Pete is on to something here
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 29, 2024 11:15 AM (xcxpd)
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John Harwood is a rabidly partisan left-wing activist who has somehow found employment as an “objective journalist” at major US media outlets. As an “objective journalist,” he is completely unhinged that a metro newspaper near Washington DC might not be a mouthpiece for the left’s agenda.
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In fairness, it could be a paper with weekly circulation of under 500, or even the student newspaper at a local junior high somewhere, and he would have the same attitude.
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In fairness, it could be a paper with weekly circulation of under 500, or even the student newspaper at a local junior high somewhere, and he would have the same attitude.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:15 AM (mwCIn)
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"For instance, you would never see another story about a poll in which a majority of citizens believe the local utility should replace natural gas with unicorn emissions."
Naw, report those polls, but mock them mercilessly, and show that they are bullshit polls.
Refusing to cover a story at all is what the Left does. E.G.: the border.
Naw, report those polls, but mock them mercilessly, and show that they are bullshit polls.
Refusing to cover a story at all is what the Left does. E.G.: the border.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2024 11:15 AM (tkR6S)
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So this "purging" of reporters. Does it involve the top floor of a high building?
Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (4olE
"And I'm sure you'll be happy to know that I have notified your local draft boards and told them that you are now all - all! - eligible for military service."
So this "purging" of reporters. Does it involve the top floor of a high building?
Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (4olE
"And I'm sure you'll be happy to know that I have notified your local draft boards and told them that you are now all - all! - eligible for military service."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (MoZTd)
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35 Who in Baltimore actually reads and why are all the stories about people in Baltimore that don't read? Fix that and a newspaper would be successful.
Baltimore contains plenty of rich liberals. Just less so inside the actual city these days.
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Yeah, I know that. But even lefties recognize John Hopkins has block houses with armed guards protecting the campus. Consider, the inner harbor has a shit ton of water front property that could be turned into a wonderland. But this never changes for a reason.
Baltimore contains plenty of rich liberals. Just less so inside the actual city these days.
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Yeah, I know that. But even lefties recognize John Hopkins has block houses with armed guards protecting the campus. Consider, the inner harbor has a shit ton of water front property that could be turned into a wonderland. But this never changes for a reason.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (gLYp7)
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Then don't hire J School grads. It's not like being a reporter is a skilled trade or an engineer. Any English major can do their job and they know it.
Hire people that know whatever the topic under discussion is.
Is there a debate about some new highway project? Hire a traffic engineer and a long time commuter in the area to write about it.
Hire people that know whatever the topic under discussion is.
Is there a debate about some new highway project? Hire a traffic engineer and a long time commuter in the area to write about it.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (ibTVg)
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They believe that their ideas cannot compete with rightwing ideas because people are rayciss, stupid, and evil. So the only way to get people to embrace the correct ideas is to make sure those are the only ones they are exposed to.
See my #44. We are in agreement.
See my #44. We are in agreement.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (CsUN+)
64
With an eye patch?
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (AwYPR)
And a heavy silver tipped cane with which to beat my enemies to death.
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (AwYPR)
And a heavy silver tipped cane with which to beat my enemies to death.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (gSZYf)
65
Unless all existing “journalists” and editors are fired and replaced with competent people it won’t matter who owns the company.
Posted by: Montec at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (F9jE7)
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• All existing “opinion journalists” still on staff would be terminated. Any future opinion pieces would strictly be about state and local politics, and written by contributors, not employees. The conservative side of issues must always be presented, although a liberal counterpoint could also be presented.
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This sounds shockingly close to removing the gatekeeping of professional and expert journalists, Buck.
Surely you don't dismiss the value of journalists.
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This sounds shockingly close to removing the gatekeeping of professional and expert journalists, Buck.
Surely you don't dismiss the value of journalists.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (mwCIn)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (lpPTQ)
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Most, if not all of the "newz" outlets do nothing more than opine on events. If you want facts, and you are motivated enough to do your own searching, you may (or may not) uncover the "truth" about event X, Y or Z.
But that's what "reporters" used to do, didn't they? Now it's easier and more satisfying to opine on something, tell the readers or viewers what you think they should know and why.
The Art of Propaganda: 2024 Edition
Send me your CC # and you'll get a 5% discount.
But that's what "reporters" used to do, didn't they? Now it's easier and more satisfying to opine on something, tell the readers or viewers what you think they should know and why.
The Art of Propaganda: 2024 Edition
Send me your CC # and you'll get a 5% discount.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 29, 2024 11:17 AM (Q4IgG)
69
Every sitcom with children back in the olden days had an episode featuring a child delivering papers as a first job. Bud Anderson, Beaver Cleaver, Dennis Mitchell, Jeff Stone, they usually failed and the parents had to pitch in to bail the son out. Now, things are so much better when no one earns their first dime 'til they're over 30.
Posted by: Read All About It! at January 29, 2024 11:18 AM (V5BDR)
70
See my #44. We are in agreement.
Indeed. When I turn on the FNM I'm usually more amazed at what they are covering then their slant on it.
Indeed. When I turn on the FNM I'm usually more amazed at what they are covering then their slant on it.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:18 AM (ibTVg)
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Has "notoriously left-wing" ever been used in print? Yeah, didn't think so either.
They refer to themselves as "normal" or "right down the middle."
Has "notoriously left-wing" ever been used in print? Yeah, didn't think so either.
They refer to themselves as "normal" or "right down the middle."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 29, 2024 11:18 AM (63Dwl)
72
I'd buy a huge office space and then Brady Bunch the bitch right down the middle with duct tape. Find the craziest nut jobs I can find on planet earth, woke DEI Mother Jones looking bastards on one side, everyone who's ever worked for Alex Jones on the other, and say "Each of you put out a newspaper every day and I'll keep paying you", and then let them have at it.
And then I'd sell access to a live stream of the on-premise CCTV cameras.
And then I'd sell access to a live stream of the on-premise CCTV cameras.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2024 11:18 AM (VoAdT)
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David Ingram [of NBC News]
@David_Ingram
New from me today: How right-wing influencers turned airplanes and airports into culture war battlegrounds
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A few wheels fall off, a few doors blow out, and, right away, it's all because they abandoned competency and replaced it with DEI! And don't get me started on the Trumps!
David Ingram
@David_Ingram
One example from recent days: When a wheel fell off a jet on an Atlanta runway last weekend, Donald Trump Jr. suggested without evidence that diversity efforts were to blame.
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Without evidence! Without evidence!
@David_Ingram
New from me today: How right-wing influencers turned airplanes and airports into culture war battlegrounds
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A few wheels fall off, a few doors blow out, and, right away, it's all because they abandoned competency and replaced it with DEI! And don't get me started on the Trumps!
David Ingram
@David_Ingram
One example from recent days: When a wheel fell off a jet on an Atlanta runway last weekend, Donald Trump Jr. suggested without evidence that diversity efforts were to blame.
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Without evidence! Without evidence!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:18 AM (FVME7)
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Re-institute the old newspaper maxim -
"If it bleeds it leads."
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (lpPTQ)
"f/8 and be there." - Weegee
Re-institute the old newspaper maxim -
"If it bleeds it leads."
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (lpPTQ)
"f/8 and be there." - Weegee
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2024 11:18 AM (MoZTd)
75
Because of their bias and obsession with national politics, I’m happy to see hyper-partisan newspapers go out of business. However, there remains an important role for local papers in covering local news.
Never gonna happen. (1) Uniform national coverage from every outlet is cheaper; it's near cost-free leftwing opinionating at this point. (2) Rich people largely have the same views these days regardless of party; it's uniparty uber alles. (3) No one goes into journalism to cover potholes; these days, they are virtually all college grads steeped in leftism who are on a mission to save the world.
Never gonna happen. (1) Uniform national coverage from every outlet is cheaper; it's near cost-free leftwing opinionating at this point. (2) Rich people largely have the same views these days regardless of party; it's uniparty uber alles. (3) No one goes into journalism to cover potholes; these days, they are virtually all college grads steeped in leftism who are on a mission to save the world.
Posted by: Local news is mostly dead, and wh en it isn't you wish it was at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (pjs7m)
76
With an eye patch?
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (AwYPR)
And a heavy silver tipped cane with which to beat my enemies to death.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (gSZYf)
Well then, maybe a cape, too.
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (AwYPR)
And a heavy silver tipped cane with which to beat my enemies to death.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (gSZYf)
Well then, maybe a cape, too.
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (AwYPR)
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I read that a masters in journalism from Columbia costs $125k. And it’s only a 1 year program. And then a first job in NYC or DC pays $45k.
Who can afford to pay $125k and then live in NYc making $45k? Sons and daughters of the elite, that’s who. And that’s who makes up the “news” media today. They have zero understanding of real people or anything outside the Ivy league world.
Who can afford to pay $125k and then live in NYc making $45k? Sons and daughters of the elite, that’s who. And that’s who makes up the “news” media today. They have zero understanding of real people or anything outside the Ivy league world.
Posted by: Montec at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (F9jE7)
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Then don't hire J School grads. It's not like being a reporter is a skilled trade or an engineer. Any English major can do their job and they know it.
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Most 'real' reporters never went to college. They reported on shit they knew - their audience - their neighbors.
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Most 'real' reporters never went to college. They reported on shit they knew - their audience - their neighbors.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (gLYp7)
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No small subset of a group will be presented as speaking for the entire group. For example, “Doctors are alarmed about…” or “Parents are raising concern about…”
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This one is particularly amusing because it is a hobby horse of the left. If you've ever been through corporate or government mandated DEI or even just old-fashioned "sensitivity" training, you know this. They call it out every time, and have for at least 15 years. It's racist to believe or ask that a black employee speak(s) for all black people. Or women. Or Asians. Or whatever.
This is laid out in a black and white all the time and it's asserted as evil to assume that a member of a group represents the group.
But the press and policymakers do this constantly. Of course, they would argue that it is different because Postmodern theory erases the individual and makes the group paramount (if they actually have any understanding of their working theories, anyway).
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This one is particularly amusing because it is a hobby horse of the left. If you've ever been through corporate or government mandated DEI or even just old-fashioned "sensitivity" training, you know this. They call it out every time, and have for at least 15 years. It's racist to believe or ask that a black employee speak(s) for all black people. Or women. Or Asians. Or whatever.
This is laid out in a black and white all the time and it's asserted as evil to assume that a member of a group represents the group.
But the press and policymakers do this constantly. Of course, they would argue that it is different because Postmodern theory erases the individual and makes the group paramount (if they actually have any understanding of their working theories, anyway).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (mwCIn)
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Mighty rich of PMSNBC and its staff to be all concerned about who owns what. Perhaps they should be more concerned about the quality and grammar of the pieces they write. To wit, I found this MSN gem while looking for a link to the UGeorgia bat infestation:
"Bat infestation leaves University of Georgia student's horrified
©Atlanta News First / FOX 5 Atlanta / University of Georgia
University of Georgia students have been disgusted to return to find their dorms have been infected by bats. Ogelthorpe House is a residence hall located near the school's central campus in Athens of about 500 students, with board running between $3,300 and $3,800."
Fix the grammar, ya poseurs, and perhaps then I'll take you clowns seriously.
"Bat infestation leaves University of Georgia student's horrified
©Atlanta News First / FOX 5 Atlanta / University of Georgia
University of Georgia students have been disgusted to return to find their dorms have been infected by bats. Ogelthorpe House is a residence hall located near the school's central campus in Athens of about 500 students, with board running between $3,300 and $3,800."
Fix the grammar, ya poseurs, and perhaps then I'll take you clowns seriously.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (/HDaX)
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"Balanced view" was a creature of the Hearst era of destroying competition and having one big daily speak to and for everyone. In the lively era of newspapers, each paper had its own axe to grind, and ground away at it year after year. It was the job of opposing journals to present the so-called other side, if there was one. We stand for The Truth.
The left spin on news events is well-represented already.
The left spin on news events is well-represented already.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (zdLoL)
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"Has "notoriously left-wing" ever been used in print?"
And to whom exactly would they be notorious?
There's your answer right there.
"Has "notoriously left-wing" ever been used in print?"
And to whom exactly would they be notorious?
There's your answer right there.
Posted by: Speller at January 29, 2024 11:20 AM (pSotA)
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28 I would very much like to be a rich right-wing fanatic.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Baltimore only thinks it's seen right wing fanatics.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Baltimore only thinks it's seen right wing fanatics.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:20 AM (xw5ql)
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No small subset of a group will be presented as speaking for the entire group. For example, “Doctors are alarmed about…” or “Parents are raising concern about…”
A few years ago one of the lead NYT reporters was found to have used his room mate for literally all of his "man on the street" interviews.
TBH I was more amazed that being the top NYT reporter still meant you didn't have enough money to live by yourself then that he lied about his interviews...
A few years ago one of the lead NYT reporters was found to have used his room mate for literally all of his "man on the street" interviews.
TBH I was more amazed that being the top NYT reporter still meant you didn't have enough money to live by yourself then that he lied about his interviews...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:21 AM (ibTVg)
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End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Ilhan Omar tells a crowd of Somalians that her top priority is to put Somalia first and expand its territory
"The US government will do what we want, nothing else. They must follow our orders. That is how we safeguard the interest of Somalia."
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They ruined their country and now they want to ruin ours.
@EndWokeness
Ilhan Omar tells a crowd of Somalians that her top priority is to put Somalia first and expand its territory
"The US government will do what we want, nothing else. They must follow our orders. That is how we safeguard the interest of Somalia."
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They ruined their country and now they want to ruin ours.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:21 AM (FVME7)
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"Balanced view" was a creature of the Hearst era of destroying competition and having one big daily speak to and for everyone. In the lively era of newspapers, each paper had its own axe to grind, and ground away at it year after year. It was the job of opposing journals to present the so-called other side, if there was one. We stand for The Truth.
The left spin on news events is well-represented already.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (zdLoL)
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I would much prefer nakedly partisan press without deceitful fig-leaves about "balance." We have a nakedly partisan press today, but they lie about it and ice out opposing partisans.
With openly partisan press covering multiple parties, you can get much closer to the truth by simply buying multiple papers and comparing them.
The left spin on news events is well-represented already.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (zdLoL)
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I would much prefer nakedly partisan press without deceitful fig-leaves about "balance." We have a nakedly partisan press today, but they lie about it and ice out opposing partisans.
With openly partisan press covering multiple parties, you can get much closer to the truth by simply buying multiple papers and comparing them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:21 AM (mwCIn)
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Hire people that know whatever the topic under discussion is.
Is there a debate about some new highway project? Hire a traffic engineer and a long time commuter in the area to write about it.
Posted by: 18-1
Exactly! It is my major beef with 'news'. The writers that call a Marine a 'soldier' or state something as fact that is entirely contrary to the tenets of Catholicism (just to name two examples) should be fired immediately.
Many ten year olds are brighter.
Is there a debate about some new highway project? Hire a traffic engineer and a long time commuter in the area to write about it.
Posted by: 18-1
Exactly! It is my major beef with 'news'. The writers that call a Marine a 'soldier' or state something as fact that is entirely contrary to the tenets of Catholicism (just to name two examples) should be fired immediately.
Many ten year olds are brighter.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:21 AM (IaTa3)
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62 Then don't hire J School grads. It's not like being a reporter is a skilled trade or an engineer. Any English major can do their job and they know it.
Hire people that know whatever the topic under discussion is.
Is there a debate about some new highway project? Hire a traffic engineer and a long time commuter in the area to write about it.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (ibTVg)
Also a good idea
Hire people that know whatever the topic under discussion is.
Is there a debate about some new highway project? Hire a traffic engineer and a long time commuter in the area to write about it.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (ibTVg)
Also a good idea
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 29, 2024 11:22 AM (xcxpd)
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How we got here.
1 in 5 voters say they would "likely" vote for the candidate T-Swift endorses. Come see how the Biden team wants to tap the Swifties to fortify dEmoCraCy.
http://tinyurl.com/32e2xsyy
1 in 5 voters say they would "likely" vote for the candidate T-Swift endorses. Come see how the Biden team wants to tap the Swifties to fortify dEmoCraCy.
http://tinyurl.com/32e2xsyy
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:22 AM (FVME7)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 11:22 AM (9yWhg)
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I'm so old I remember when each city had a right paper and a left paper. Freedom did not die. Interesting the panic a little competition brings to "some" journalists.
Posted by: PJ at January 29, 2024 11:22 AM (G1dq6)
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Not really, because the news they choose to cover is often what determines the slant. Think about Iowahawk's maxim about covering it with a pillow until it stops moving.
That's the primary way they slant things. As I mentioned on the last thread, there was a mass shooter in Canada last week. Something which usually is considered news. But this was a Muslim shooter who was angry about (among other things) government support for gays and trannies so that goes right down the memory hole.
That's the primary way they slant things. As I mentioned on the last thread, there was a mass shooter in Canada last week. Something which usually is considered news. But this was a Muslim shooter who was angry about (among other things) government support for gays and trannies so that goes right down the memory hole.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:22 AM (2ocoG)
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David Ingram
@David_Ingram
One example from recent days: When a wheel fell off a jet on an Atlanta runway last weekend, Donald Trump Jr. suggested without evidence that diversity efforts were to blame.
I couldn't understand why DTJ gets so much press, but then it occurred to me that the media know most people will read this and assume it was DJT.
DTJ occasionally says something interesting, but most of the time he's no more insightful than anyone else.
@David_Ingram
One example from recent days: When a wheel fell off a jet on an Atlanta runway last weekend, Donald Trump Jr. suggested without evidence that diversity efforts were to blame.
I couldn't understand why DTJ gets so much press, but then it occurred to me that the media know most people will read this and assume it was DJT.
DTJ occasionally says something interesting, but most of the time he's no more insightful than anyone else.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:23 AM (CsUN+)
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Are the bats from Wuhan?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2024 11:23 AM (lpPTQ)
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The NY Post is a good model for a successful, center-right newspaper. Is it a truly conservative paper? No. But it's readable, not insulting, and on some issues -- Israel, crime, free speech -- it's pretty damn conservative.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:23 AM (iFTx/)
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"Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
Posted by: Michael Crichton at January 29, 2024 11:23 AM (ibTVg)
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Is there a debate about some new highway project? Hire a traffic engineer and a long time commuter in the area to write about it.
It is orders of magnitude easier to get an actual practitioner to write on a subject than it is to get a journalist to understand it.
Is there a debate about some new highway project? Hire a traffic engineer and a long time commuter in the area to write about it.
It is orders of magnitude easier to get an actual practitioner to write on a subject than it is to get a journalist to understand it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2024 11:23 AM (MoZTd)
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64 And a heavy silver tipped cane with which to beat my enemies to death.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (gSZYf)
Finally. Someone's ready to beat people to death.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (gSZYf)
Finally. Someone's ready to beat people to death.
Posted by: XTC at January 29, 2024 11:24 AM (UnA8+)
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I wonder just how inefficient the newspaper is?
Are there significant savings to be had just by cutting the fat from the editorial staff?
Are there significant savings to be had just by cutting the fat from the editorial staff?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:24 AM (gSZYf)
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Art reflects life.
"Law & Order" features white woman who won't press charges against black man who violated her because of her privilege. Watch the clip here.
http://tinyurl.com/yc8fuv24
"Law & Order" features white woman who won't press charges against black man who violated her because of her privilege. Watch the clip here.
http://tinyurl.com/yc8fuv24
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:24 AM (FVME7)
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Good luck finding anyone other than woke "journalists" looking to advance Democrat-Communist interests -- that's the way they're indoctrinated in J School. Just like with Republican Presidents, the rank and file employees will start undermining the new owner from day one.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (qUkBO)
So don't hire anyone with a Journalism degree. "Reporting" used to be a trade, learned on an apprenticeship basis. Make it that way again.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (qUkBO)
So don't hire anyone with a Journalism degree. "Reporting" used to be a trade, learned on an apprenticeship basis. Make it that way again.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2024 11:24 AM (tkR6S)
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I'm so old I remember when each city had a right paper and a left paper. Freedom did not die. Interesting the panic a little competition brings to "some" journalists.
The modern leftist take on this is that America was a full on fascist country until around 2008.
The modern leftist take on this is that America was a full on fascist country until around 2008.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:25 AM (ibTVg)
103
I pay $10/m for Midjourney. It compliments my wizard-level photoshop skills.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (cf/0E)
104
With openly partisan press covering multiple parties, you can get much closer to the truth by simply buying multiple papers and comparing them.
Nobody is going to subscribe to multiple papers. I think what you'll end up with is people reading only one of completely different versions of events, sort of like AOSHQ vs. DU. We'd be living in completely different realities, sort of like the blind men describing an elephant. IOW, the internet today.
Nobody is going to subscribe to multiple papers. I think what you'll end up with is people reading only one of completely different versions of events, sort of like AOSHQ vs. DU. We'd be living in completely different realities, sort of like the blind men describing an elephant. IOW, the internet today.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (CsUN+)
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The writers that call a Marine a 'soldier' or state something as fact that is entirely contrary to the tenets of Catholicism (just to name two examples) should be fired immediately.
Things that are woke are, 99% of the time, also lame. Attacking them on the "lame" rather than the "woke" is the winning strategy.
Things that are woke are, 99% of the time, also lame. Attacking them on the "lame" rather than the "woke" is the winning strategy.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (2ocoG)
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93 David Ingram
@David_Ingram
One example from recent days: When a wheel fell off a jet on an Atlanta runway last weekend, Donald Trump Jr. suggested without evidence that diversity efforts were to blame.
I couldn't understand why DTJ gets so much press, but then it occurred to me that the media know most people will read this and assume it was DJT.
DTJ occasionally says something interesting, but most of the time he's no more insightful than anyone else.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:23 AM (CsUN+)
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I don't disagree, but when a wheel falls off a plane for no reason, there's probably 99% chance it's negligence at some level. At a time when airlines are openly bragging they're no longer hiring on merit but on DEI, I'm not sure it's unreasonable to suspect that's the culprit.
@David_Ingram
One example from recent days: When a wheel fell off a jet on an Atlanta runway last weekend, Donald Trump Jr. suggested without evidence that diversity efforts were to blame.
I couldn't understand why DTJ gets so much press, but then it occurred to me that the media know most people will read this and assume it was DJT.
DTJ occasionally says something interesting, but most of the time he's no more insightful than anyone else.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:23 AM (CsUN+)
__________
I don't disagree, but when a wheel falls off a plane for no reason, there's probably 99% chance it's negligence at some level. At a time when airlines are openly bragging they're no longer hiring on merit but on DEI, I'm not sure it's unreasonable to suspect that's the culprit.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (iFTx/)
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It is orders of magnitude easier to get an actual practitioner to write on a subject than it is to get a journalist to understand it.
In a similar vein it is assumed in the corporate world that if you know something you can teach it to anyone else. And...this is mostly true.
You don't need a masters in teaching. You just need to know the subject and have an interested student...
In a similar vein it is assumed in the corporate world that if you know something you can teach it to anyone else. And...this is mostly true.
You don't need a masters in teaching. You just need to know the subject and have an interested student...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (ibTVg)
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It used to be that the local political machine kept the papers in line by suggesting that legal notices could be published elsewhere.
It used to be that the local political machine kept the papers in line by suggesting that legal notices could be published elsewhere.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (MoZTd)
109
Times past we had two newspapers, one was conservative the other was liberal. Now, we have one that's holding on by its fingertips.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (xw5ql)
110
"Law & Order" features white woman who won't press charges against black man who violated her because of her privilege. Watch the clip here.
It's better than that - she's a white lesbian. I think Ace posted one of her movies once "by accident".
It's better than that - she's a white lesbian. I think Ace posted one of her movies once "by accident".
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (2ocoG)
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Alot of what is in news papers is either from freelancers or wire services like AP Associated Press.
Alot of what is in news papers is either from freelancers or wire services like AP Associated Press.
Posted by: Speller at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (pSotA)
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Now, we have one that's holding on by its fingertips.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (xw5ql)
*stomps hard*
Now, we have one that's holding on by its fingertips.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (xw5ql)
*stomps hard*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2024 11:28 AM (MoZTd)
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I don't disagree, but when a wheel falls off a plane for no reason, there's probably 99% chance it's negligence at some level.
Remember the people claiming that raising DIE as an issue with airplane maintenance is mere biased conjecture also claim that American cops are literally all bastards looking to murder black kids for no reason.
I don't disagree, but when a wheel falls off a plane for no reason, there's probably 99% chance it's negligence at some level.
Remember the people claiming that raising DIE as an issue with airplane maintenance is mere biased conjecture also claim that American cops are literally all bastards looking to murder black kids for no reason.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:28 AM (ibTVg)
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Alot of what is in news papers is either from freelancers or wire services like AP Associated Press.
Yes and no. Major papers like to have their own writers for prestige. They could afford to hire them under Trump, but the Biden economy is causing all the layoffs you've heard about.
Yes and no. Major papers like to have their own writers for prestige. They could afford to hire them under Trump, but the Biden economy is causing all the layoffs you've heard about.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:29 AM (2ocoG)
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I don't disagree, but when a wheel falls off a plane for no reason, there's probably 99% chance it's negligence at some level. At a time when airlines are openly bragging they're no longer hiring on merit but on DEI, I'm not sure it's unreasonable to suspect that's the culprit.
Oh, it absolutely is reasonable. But what the average reader will come away with is "DJT doesn't like black people".
Oh, it absolutely is reasonable. But what the average reader will come away with is "DJT doesn't like black people".
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:29 AM (CsUN+)
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107 You don't need a masters in teaching. You just need to know the subject and have an interested student...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (ibTVg)
And be able to break it down into non-technical terms.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (ibTVg)
And be able to break it down into non-technical terms.
Posted by: XTC at January 29, 2024 11:29 AM (UnA8+)
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109 Times past we had two newspapers, one was conservative the other was liberal. Now, we have one that's holding on by its fingertips.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (xw5ql)
The local rag here was a family run paper. Center left politics wise, but tolerable. After a couple of buyouts/mergers it is owned by Gannett. All that is left is hard core leftists. No local reporters. Any articles are written by content management people somewhere hundreds of miles away.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (xw5ql)
The local rag here was a family run paper. Center left politics wise, but tolerable. After a couple of buyouts/mergers it is owned by Gannett. All that is left is hard core leftists. No local reporters. Any articles are written by content management people somewhere hundreds of miles away.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 29, 2024 11:29 AM (N39Ws)
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End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Ilhan Omar tells a crowd of Somalians that her top priority is to put Somalia first and expand its territory
"The US government will do what we want, nothing else. They must follow our orders. That is how we safeguard the interest of Somalia."
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They ruined their country and now they want to ruin ours.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:21 AM (FVME7)
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"United Somalians of America unite! You have nothing to lose but your feigns ..."
@EndWokeness
Ilhan Omar tells a crowd of Somalians that her top priority is to put Somalia first and expand its territory
"The US government will do what we want, nothing else. They must follow our orders. That is how we safeguard the interest of Somalia."
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They ruined their country and now they want to ruin ours.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:21 AM (FVME7)
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"United Somalians of America unite! You have nothing to lose but your feigns ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- Civil War 2: 10th Amendment Revolution Boogaloo at January 29, 2024 11:29 AM (p/Gsu)
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at January 29, 2024 11:30 AM (X4yCj)
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I don't disagree, but when a wheel falls off a plane for no reason, there's probably 99% chance it's negligence at some level. At a time when airlines are openly bragging they're no longer hiring on merit but on DEI, I'm not sure it's unreasonable to suspect that's the culprit.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Especially on the heels of a DEI door assembly popping out of a Boeing.
I don't disagree, but when a wheel falls off a plane for no reason, there's probably 99% chance it's negligence at some level. At a time when airlines are openly bragging they're no longer hiring on merit but on DEI, I'm not sure it's unreasonable to suspect that's the culprit.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Especially on the heels of a DEI door assembly popping out of a Boeing.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:30 AM (xw5ql)
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The American Museum of Natural History announced Friday that it will immediately close two halls showcasing Native American cultural artifacts in order to comply with updated federal regulations on repatriating indigenous remains and sacred objects to tribes, according to NBC News. The museum is shutting down its Hall of Eastern Woodlands and Hall of the Great Plains, which together contain thousands of items related to Native American tribes.
Posted by: SMOD at January 29, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)
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Way back when, on aimless road trips around America, I'd pick up the local paper in some little town where I was spending the night.
Now, I haven't picked up a physical copy of a newspaper in 20 years.
Way back when, on aimless road trips around America, I'd pick up the local paper in some little town where I was spending the night.
Now, I haven't picked up a physical copy of a newspaper in 20 years.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2024 11:30 AM (MoZTd)
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... Is there a debate about some new highway project? Hire a traffic engineer and a long time commuter in the area to write about it.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (ibTVg)
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They might have subject matter expertise, but they don't understand journalistic standards and will be less likely to successfully distill the issues into understandable language. This will create a messy technical exposition where once there was straightforward clarity.
Journalists may not have deep subject matter expertise (outside of specialized correspondents), but they can communicate effectively thanks to journalistic training and generalized (though moderately more superficial) expertise in multiple areas.
This theory falls down on execution, just like equivalent assertions regarding teachers. These are skills in their own rights and mere subject matter expertise does not make for a good teacher *or* a good journalist. Generalist expertise, applied knowledge of journalism and adherence to professional standards are what makes a good journalist.
This right's hatred of the professions and contempt for credentialing bodies will, if pursued and realized, destroy generations of progress.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:16 AM (ibTVg)
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They might have subject matter expertise, but they don't understand journalistic standards and will be less likely to successfully distill the issues into understandable language. This will create a messy technical exposition where once there was straightforward clarity.
Journalists may not have deep subject matter expertise (outside of specialized correspondents), but they can communicate effectively thanks to journalistic training and generalized (though moderately more superficial) expertise in multiple areas.
This theory falls down on execution, just like equivalent assertions regarding teachers. These are skills in their own rights and mere subject matter expertise does not make for a good teacher *or* a good journalist. Generalist expertise, applied knowledge of journalism and adherence to professional standards are what makes a good journalist.
This right's hatred of the professions and contempt for credentialing bodies will, if pursued and realized, destroy generations of progress.
Posted by: Your Kid's Journalism Professor at January 29, 2024 11:30 AM (mwCIn)
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Ilhan Omar tells a crowd of Somalians that her top priority is to put Somalia first and expand its territory
Omar and her family used to be royals in Somalia, until they were violently deposed by the people. She'll never stop trying to get that back.
Omar and her family used to be royals in Somalia, until they were violently deposed by the people. She'll never stop trying to get that back.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:30 AM (2ocoG)
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"Who, what, why, when, where & how. No opinons.
You report. WE decide."
Why is an opinion.
Posted by: Speller
Perp molested his grandson so he cut his still beating heart out.
Fact. Not opinion.
You report. WE decide."
Why is an opinion.
Posted by: Speller
Perp molested his grandson so he cut his still beating heart out.
Fact. Not opinion.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2024 11:31 AM (SbJgO)
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And be able to break it down into non-technical terms.
That's the best way to determine if you really understand the subject in which you purport to be an expert.
That's the best way to determine if you really understand the subject in which you purport to be an expert.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:31 AM (CsUN+)
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"@EndWokeness
Ilhan Omar tells a crowd of Somalians that her top priority is to put Somalia first and expand its territory
"The US government will do what we want, nothing else. They must follow our orders. That is how we safeguard the interest of Somalia.""
Send them all back to Somalia and let them "expand its territory" from there.
Ilhan Omar tells a crowd of Somalians that her top priority is to put Somalia first and expand its territory
"The US government will do what we want, nothing else. They must follow our orders. That is how we safeguard the interest of Somalia.""
Send them all back to Somalia and let them "expand its territory" from there.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 29, 2024 11:31 AM (ou9hh)
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Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:29 AM
My point is that to the extent a newspaper used free lancers and wire services, it would be easy to change that portion of the content.
Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:29 AM
My point is that to the extent a newspaper used free lancers and wire services, it would be easy to change that portion of the content.
Posted by: Speller at January 29, 2024 11:32 AM (pSotA)
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Slightly off topic but not really: how the hell does Microsoft Bitdefender get away with categorizing John Kass.com as a hate site and Larry Corriea monster hunter site as porn!!! How is that not libel, intentionally interference with business relationships.????
John Kass took over from Mike Royko as columnist at Chicago tribune. He took a buyout two years ago, and know runs his own news commentary website. He's somewhat right of center but kind of Midwestern moderate really. It's crazy.
John Kass took over from Mike Royko as columnist at Chicago tribune. He took a buyout two years ago, and know runs his own news commentary website. He's somewhat right of center but kind of Midwestern moderate really. It's crazy.
Posted by: You can say whatever you want about a. Conservative at January 29, 2024 11:32 AM (XWNpw)
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100 Art reflects life.
"Law & Order" features white woman who won't press charges against black man who violated her because of her privilege. Watch the clip here.
http://tinyurl.com/yc8fuv24
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:24 AM (FVME7)
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The parents of both those white girls who were killed by illegals -- including that truly heinous rape-murder -- were vocal about not blaming illegal immigration for it. They practically supported their daughters' killers.
"Law & Order" features white woman who won't press charges against black man who violated her because of her privilege. Watch the clip here.
http://tinyurl.com/yc8fuv24
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:24 AM (FVME7)
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The parents of both those white girls who were killed by illegals -- including that truly heinous rape-murder -- were vocal about not blaming illegal immigration for it. They practically supported their daughters' killers.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:32 AM (iFTx/)
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Omar and her family used to be royals in Somalia, until they were violently deposed by the people. She'll never stop trying to get that back.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:30 AM (2ocoG)
Oh yeah? Didn't know that. How can I help?
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:30 AM (2ocoG)
Oh yeah? Didn't know that. How can I help?
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:32 AM (AwYPR)
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The American Museum of Natural History announced Friday that it will immediately close two halls showcasing Native American cultural artifacts in order to comply with updated federal regulations on repatriating indigenous remains and sacred objects to tribes, according to NBC News. . . .
Posted by: SMOD
So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?
Posted by: SMOD
So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (IaTa3)
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Nobody is going to subscribe to multiple papers. I think what you'll end up with is people reading only one of completely different versions of events, sort of like AOSHQ vs. DU. We'd be living in completely different realities, sort of like the blind men describing an elephant. IOW, the internet today.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (CsUN+)
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Yup. But at least there would be choice and for those rare few who want to try to suss out the differences, they would be able to do so.
"Neutral" reporting does not exist, so having as many partisans of as many kinds as possible is superior. Today, there are only partisans of one type. That's the worst.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (CsUN+)
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Yup. But at least there would be choice and for those rare few who want to try to suss out the differences, they would be able to do so.
"Neutral" reporting does not exist, so having as many partisans of as many kinds as possible is superior. Today, there are only partisans of one type. That's the worst.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (mwCIn)
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Morning.
Posted by: Robert at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (1Yy3c)
135
Now, we have one that's holding on by its fingertips.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (xw5ql)
*stomps hard*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
ISWYDT.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:27 AM (xw5ql)
*stomps hard*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
ISWYDT.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (SbJgO)
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Identification, friend or foe (IFF) problem
The U.S. failed to stop a deadly attack on an American military outpost in Jordan because the enemy drone approached its target at the same time a U.S. drone was also returning to base, U.S. officials said Monday.
The return of the U.S. drone led to some confusion over whether the incoming drone was friend or foe, officials have concluded so far.
The enemy drone was launched from Iraq by a militia backed by Tehran, U.S. officials said. The outpost, Tower 22, sits in Jordan, hard on the borders of Iraq and Syria.
The U.S. failed to stop a deadly attack on an American military outpost in Jordan because the enemy drone approached its target at the same time a U.S. drone was also returning to base, U.S. officials said Monday.
The return of the U.S. drone led to some confusion over whether the incoming drone was friend or foe, officials have concluded so far.
The enemy drone was launched from Iraq by a militia backed by Tehran, U.S. officials said. The outpost, Tower 22, sits in Jordan, hard on the borders of Iraq and Syria.
Posted by: SMOD at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (RHGPo)
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Somalia has done so well with the territory it already has, that it deserves to expand it!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 11:34 AM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 29, 2024 11:34 AM (xcxpd)
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Somalia has done so well with the territory it already has, that it deserves to expand it!
Historically they built a powerful slave trading empire that was a notable polity in the Muslim world.
But I guess mentioning that is wrong bad think right?
Historically they built a powerful slave trading empire that was a notable polity in the Muslim world.
But I guess mentioning that is wrong bad think right?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:35 AM (ibTVg)
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Law & Order" features white woman who won't press charges against black man who violated her because of her privilege. Watch the clip here.
http://tinyurl.com/yc8fuv24
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Another re make.
http://tinyurl.com/yc8fuv24
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Another re make.
Posted by: Mandingo at January 29, 2024 11:35 AM (XWNpw)
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I think it would be fun to run a newspaper.
Posted by: Charles Foster Kane at January 29, 2024 11:36 AM (63Dwl)
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So David Smith is actually a neighbor of mine up here in Maine - in the neighborhood adjacent to mine. All of his immediate neighbors have lawsuits against him and vice-versa over private road and certificates of occupancy drama.
He also bought the house two doors down from me for his girlfriend/mistress (I'm pretty sure he is married).
He also bought the house two doors down from me for his girlfriend/mistress (I'm pretty sure he is married).
Posted by: Defenestratus at January 29, 2024 11:36 AM (bnIW/)
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I mean, I just want a paper that mocks Democrats for being ugly and ranks how badly they deserve to be beaten with a sack of hammers for their perfidy.
Posted by: XTC at January 29, 2024 11:36 AM (UnA8+)
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"So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?"
Likewise, what is to be done with artifacts acquired by trade or purchase?
As unbelievable as it seems, white devils did actually trade with the Indians.
"So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?"
Likewise, what is to be done with artifacts acquired by trade or purchase?
As unbelievable as it seems, white devils did actually trade with the Indians.
Posted by: Speller at January 29, 2024 11:37 AM (pSotA)
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Nitter is a 401 forbidden site on my computer.
Is it the browser?
My IP people?
Or something else?
Is it the browser?
My IP people?
Or something else?
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:37 AM (xw5ql)
146
The things claimed "without evidence" or "despite lacking evidence" has a better winning streak than Floyd Mayweather.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 29, 2024 11:37 AM (cf/0E)
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Apropos of jack shit, but I bought the best little gaw'damned milk frother on Amazon. It's got a double whisk and froths like...uuuhhh...a really frothy thing. Insert something clever there. Give me the credit for it.
Anywho...
Only downside? It's cotton candy pink.
Is it gay as hell? You bet! Could I have gotten something gayer? ...Uh, no, this is probably the gayest one they had. But it was on sale and I saved five bucks and *that* is the important thing.
Anywho...
Only downside? It's cotton candy pink.
Is it gay as hell? You bet! Could I have gotten something gayer? ...Uh, no, this is probably the gayest one they had. But it was on sale and I saved five bucks and *that* is the important thing.
Posted by: Robert at January 29, 2024 11:38 AM (1Yy3c)
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>I mean, I just want a paper that mocks Democrats for being ugly and ranks how badly they deserve to be beaten with a sack of hammers for their perfidy.
I like the cut of your jib, and would like to subscribe to your ... wait, you don't have one?
I like the cut of your jib, and would like to subscribe to your ... wait, you don't have one?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 29, 2024 11:38 AM (cf/0E)
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... So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (IaTa3)
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They don't matter.
The rightful owner of any land and everything in it is the last owner immediately prior to the arrival of a non-preferred group (whites, Jews, etc.). Those things from prior tribes belong to the last tribe who possessed them before the white man came.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (IaTa3)
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They don't matter.
The rightful owner of any land and everything in it is the last owner immediately prior to the arrival of a non-preferred group (whites, Jews, etc.). Those things from prior tribes belong to the last tribe who possessed them before the white man came.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:38 AM (mwCIn)
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That's the primary way they slant things. As I mentioned on the last thread, there was a mass shooter in Canada last week. Something which usually is considered news. But this was a Muslim shooter who was angry about (among other things) government support for gays and trannies so that goes right down the memory hole.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:22 AM (2ocoG)
Well, there was also the fact that he was LARPing as a mass shooter. He was in Edmonton City Hall, a notorious den of perversion and villainy, and all he managed to do was put rounds into some walls and ceilings, and set off 2 "Molotov cocktails" which scorched a few square feet of floor. It would not surprise me at all to learn he was hired by some Edmonton council member to make them all look like "heroes" for "surviving" the assault.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 11:22 AM (2ocoG)
Well, there was also the fact that he was LARPing as a mass shooter. He was in Edmonton City Hall, a notorious den of perversion and villainy, and all he managed to do was put rounds into some walls and ceilings, and set off 2 "Molotov cocktails" which scorched a few square feet of floor. It would not surprise me at all to learn he was hired by some Edmonton council member to make them all look like "heroes" for "surviving" the assault.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2024 11:39 AM (tkR6S)
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Anonymous sources should only be used when the person's life is truly at stake and when at least 2 people - the reporter and an editor- know the source's true identity. Otherwise, you don't quote the source.
Posted by: Wally at January 29, 2024 11:39 AM (hqVaF)
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When I was in HS, I worked at the newspaper. The old gal that owned it (and the local radio station) thought giving young men a chance to develop work ethic was philanthropy. She was pretty cool, lived in a walled in mansion, had a car collection, and a rumored kept man living in the carriage house. Dressed like the Queen Mum. Very conservative. Flash forward, the old gal dies and her daughter takes over. Daughter liked writing op eds starting with Solar Power to the People. Oberlin grad.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 29, 2024 11:39 AM (0EOe9)
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Only downside? It's cotton candy pink.
Is it gay as hell? You bet! Could I have gotten something gayer? ...Uh, no, this is probably the gayest one they had. But it was on sale and I saved five bucks and *that* is the important thing.
Posted by: Robert
If you take that into a Flying J to wash it, you are going to attract some rather unwanted attention.
Just saying.
Is it gay as hell? You bet! Could I have gotten something gayer? ...Uh, no, this is probably the gayest one they had. But it was on sale and I saved five bucks and *that* is the important thing.
Posted by: Robert
If you take that into a Flying J to wash it, you are going to attract some rather unwanted attention.
Just saying.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:40 AM (IaTa3)
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144
"So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?"
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From memory:
Several years ago an old man who had been a collector of Indian artifacts all his life; researched and catalogued them, were confiscated by the Federal govt.
"So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?"
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From memory:
Several years ago an old man who had been a collector of Indian artifacts all his life; researched and catalogued them, were confiscated by the Federal govt.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:40 AM (xw5ql)
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3 Wow, sponge is REALLY falling down today.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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There has been an 'Era of Bad Feelings' that has given quite a few commenters issues. Rehashed in an ONT a day or so ago if you want particulars.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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There has been an 'Era of Bad Feelings' that has given quite a few commenters issues. Rehashed in an ONT a day or so ago if you want particulars.
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 11:40 AM (ZcPYF)
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I think it would be fun to run own a newspaper.
Posted by: Charles Foster Kane at January 29, 2024 11:36 AM (63Dwl)
yeah
Posted by: Charles Foster Kane at January 29, 2024 11:36 AM (63Dwl)
yeah
Posted by: BignJames at January 29, 2024 11:40 AM (AwYPR)
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Nitter is a 401 forbidden site on my computer.
Is it the browser?
My IP people?
Or something else?
Try a different browser
Check your hosts file
Is it the browser?
My IP people?
Or something else?
Try a different browser
Check your hosts file
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:41 AM (ibTVg)
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145 Nitter is a 401 forbidden site on my computer.
Is it the browser?
My IP people?
Or something else?
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:37 AM (xw5ql)
Looks like their LetsEncrypt SSL Certificate expired Saturday.
If you use Chrome as your browser, when you get to the error page, just type: thisisunsafe
Keep in mind, this is unsafe - but you can now view Nitter
Is it the browser?
My IP people?
Or something else?
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:37 AM (xw5ql)
Looks like their LetsEncrypt SSL Certificate expired Saturday.
If you use Chrome as your browser, when you get to the error page, just type: thisisunsafe
Keep in mind, this is unsafe - but you can now view Nitter
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 29, 2024 11:41 AM (N39Ws)
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Is it gay as hell? You bet! Could I have gotten something gayer? ...Uh, no, this is probably the gayest one they had. But it was on sale and I saved five bucks and *that* is the important thing.
Posted by: Robert
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Are you sure that it is not a recycled sex toy?
Posted by: Robert
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Are you sure that it is not a recycled sex toy?
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 11:41 AM (ZcPYF)
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Tonight's Powerball is worth $83.9 million cash*
*before taxes and relatives.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (lpPTQ)
NOW ya tell me !
Okay; thank you !
*before taxes and relatives.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2024 11:12 AM (lpPTQ)
NOW ya tell me !
Okay; thank you !
Posted by: JT at January 29, 2024 11:42 AM (T4tVD)
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Several years ago an old man who had been a collector of Indian artifacts all his life; researched and catalogued them, were confiscated by the Federal govt.
Posted by: Braenyard
They also made sure the remains of Kennewick Man disappeared. Can't have some Caucasian-looking dude upend the narrative.
Posted by: Braenyard
They also made sure the remains of Kennewick Man disappeared. Can't have some Caucasian-looking dude upend the narrative.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 11:42 AM (9yWhg)
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Newspapers are obsolete. Most people can barely read and even if they can read they can't comprehend worth a shit.
Can't remember the last time I saw anyone reading a physical newspaper in MeatSpace and the on-line ones are so filled with info and sign on crap why bother.
Can't remember the last time I saw anyone reading a physical newspaper in MeatSpace and the on-line ones are so filled with info and sign on crap why bother.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 29, 2024 11:42 AM (Dc73h)
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Apropos of jack shit, but I bought the best little gaw'damned milk frother on Amazon. It's got a double whisk and froths like...uuuhhh...a really frothy thing. Insert something clever there. Give me the credit for it.
Anywho...
Only downside? It's cotton candy pink.
Is it gay as hell? You bet! Could I have gotten something gayer? ...Uh, no, this is probably the gayest one they had. But it was on sale and I saved five bucks and *that* is the important thing.
Posted by: Robert at January 29, 2024 11:38 AM (1Yy3c)
Milk Frother.
You think having it in black or brown would make it less gay as hell.
I respond with milk frother.
Just saying it...
Anywho...
Only downside? It's cotton candy pink.
Is it gay as hell? You bet! Could I have gotten something gayer? ...Uh, no, this is probably the gayest one they had. But it was on sale and I saved five bucks and *that* is the important thing.
Posted by: Robert at January 29, 2024 11:38 AM (1Yy3c)
Milk Frother.
You think having it in black or brown would make it less gay as hell.
I respond with milk frother.
Just saying it...
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2024 11:43 AM (FCbAQ)
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My bumpkin small town paper is run by Hearst and written by people too stupid to be biased. Would love it if a local citizen could run it profitably.
I'd like to see Sullivan protections extended to print media only when it's privately owned by a citizen of the community where it's published. Abolish corporate media.
State courts could also strengthen the power of published legal notices which would bump the ad revenue of the local newspaper.
I'd like to see Sullivan protections extended to print media only when it's privately owned by a citizen of the community where it's published. Abolish corporate media.
State courts could also strengthen the power of published legal notices which would bump the ad revenue of the local newspaper.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at January 29, 2024 11:43 AM (GD2xa)
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Journalists sure do seem bothered about unapproved topics and opinions not being suppressed, don’t they?
I blame the Founders. More directly, I blame their wording. They were two verbose and too vague, in their pursuit of a beautifully worded statement. I don't believe "freedom of the press" was intended to protect "the press" as in a group of people - but rather the freedom to use "the press", as in a printing press, by anyone with the means to do so. The first, like most of the rest of the amendments, could have and should have been more direct.
In general, I don't like how they tried to preface each "what" with the "why". Many state constitutions skipped that, and simply and directly state the "what" with no preamble. Although that makes for a less enjoyable read, I also think its more clear and less prone to manipulation.
I blame the Founders. More directly, I blame their wording. They were two verbose and too vague, in their pursuit of a beautifully worded statement. I don't believe "freedom of the press" was intended to protect "the press" as in a group of people - but rather the freedom to use "the press", as in a printing press, by anyone with the means to do so. The first, like most of the rest of the amendments, could have and should have been more direct.
In general, I don't like how they tried to preface each "what" with the "why". Many state constitutions skipped that, and simply and directly state the "what" with no preamble. Although that makes for a less enjoyable read, I also think its more clear and less prone to manipulation.
Posted by: It Is What It Is at January 29, 2024 11:43 AM (cBmv+)
Posted by: XTC at January 29, 2024 11:43 AM (UnA8+)
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Better idea: invest $10 mill in classic education training. "These graduates will not fuck up your organization."
Posted by: insta-thots at January 29, 2024 11:43 AM (IG4Id)
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They also made sure the remains of Kennewick Man disappeared. Can't have some Caucasian-looking dude upend the narrative.
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Yep.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 29, 2024 11:44 AM (pZ64F)
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They also made sure the remains of Kennewick Man disappeared. Can't have some Caucasian-looking dude upend the narrative.
IIRC he most resembled the Ainu people of Japan. Note the Ainu were probably the "indigenous" people of Japan...
IIRC he most resembled the Ainu people of Japan. Note the Ainu were probably the "indigenous" people of Japan...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:44 AM (ibTVg)
Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at January 29, 2024 11:44 AM (jleHU)
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If your coffee isn't crunchy, you're probably gay.
Posted by: XTC at January 29, 2024 11:44 AM (UnA8+)
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Milk Frother sounds like the name of a Hungarian assassin.
Posted by: spindrift at January 29, 2024 11:44 AM (MqhXY)
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IIRC he most resembled the Ainu people of Japan. Note the Ainu were probably the "indigenous" people of Japan...
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As the Maori were the indigenous people of Taiwan.
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As the Maori were the indigenous people of Taiwan.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 29, 2024 11:45 AM (pZ64F)
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Why are you buying pink when you could hold out for Olive Drab Camo?
Posted by: XTC
This reminds me - why on God's green earth would someone design a woman's bikini with a winter camo pattern?
I'm looking at you Cabela's.
Posted by: XTC
This reminds me - why on God's green earth would someone design a woman's bikini with a winter camo pattern?
I'm looking at you Cabela's.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:45 AM (IaTa3)
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The old reporters in big cities were by and large people who knew the city and all of the BSing pols. The drank a lot and had sources who they drank with. They actually got out of the office and talked to people. The modern j school grad has an agenda and would never do something so icky as talking to sources. Why do that when you can scan the Internet and cut and paste, or just make stuff up
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 29, 2024 11:45 AM (hB1mF)
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155 3 Wow, sponge is REALLY falling down today.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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There has been an 'Era of Bad Feelings' that has given quite a few commenters issues. Rehashed in an ONT a day or so ago if you want particulars.
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 11:40 AM (ZcPYF)
Which night's ONT, do you know? I don't see Sponge in any of the last few
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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There has been an 'Era of Bad Feelings' that has given quite a few commenters issues. Rehashed in an ONT a day or so ago if you want particulars.
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 11:40 AM (ZcPYF)
Which night's ONT, do you know? I don't see Sponge in any of the last few
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 29, 2024 11:46 AM (xcxpd)
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149 ... So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (IaTa3)
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They don't matter.
The rightful owner of any land and everything in it is the last owner immediately prior to the arrival of a non-preferred group (whites, Jews, etc.). Those things from prior tribes belong to the last tribe who possessed them before the white man came.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:38 AM (mwCIn)
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Yea. Except even then I'm not sure it works because the tribe doesn't own the items. Whichever Indian who made it 100s of years ago is the rightful owner. Are we gonna track him down? This is just another scam and grift to enrich the tribal leaders. Not one single rank-and-file Indian will receive any benefit whatsoever from this.
The same people whining about museums displaying Indian artifacts from unknown, centuries-dead craftsmen are those scoffing at claims that Nazis stole artwork from (sometimes still living) identifiable Jews (and others) who can prove the theft.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (IaTa3)
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They don't matter.
The rightful owner of any land and everything in it is the last owner immediately prior to the arrival of a non-preferred group (whites, Jews, etc.). Those things from prior tribes belong to the last tribe who possessed them before the white man came.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:38 AM (mwCIn)
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Yea. Except even then I'm not sure it works because the tribe doesn't own the items. Whichever Indian who made it 100s of years ago is the rightful owner. Are we gonna track him down? This is just another scam and grift to enrich the tribal leaders. Not one single rank-and-file Indian will receive any benefit whatsoever from this.
The same people whining about museums displaying Indian artifacts from unknown, centuries-dead craftsmen are those scoffing at claims that Nazis stole artwork from (sometimes still living) identifiable Jews (and others) who can prove the theft.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:46 AM (iFTx/)
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Are you sure that it is not a recycled sex toy?
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 11:41 AM (ZcPYF)
I guess I should have rinsed it before using it just to be safe. :B
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If you take that into a Flying J to wash it, you are going to attract some rather unwanted attention.
Just saying.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:40 AM (IaTa3)
I think I'm good as long as no one covers it in Hello Kitty stickers.
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 11:41 AM (ZcPYF)
I guess I should have rinsed it before using it just to be safe. :B
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If you take that into a Flying J to wash it, you are going to attract some rather unwanted attention.
Just saying.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:40 AM (IaTa3)
I think I'm good as long as no one covers it in Hello Kitty stickers.
Posted by: Robert at January 29, 2024 11:47 AM (1Yy3c)
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They also made sure the remains of Kennewick Man disappeared. Can't have some Caucasian-looking dude upend the narrative.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024
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Hey, dude, like, wow . . .
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024
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Hey, dude, like, wow . . .
Posted by: Encino Man at January 29, 2024 11:47 AM (J2vNu)
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IIRC he most resembled the Ainu people of Japan. Note the Ainu were probably the "indigenous" people of Japan...
Posted by: 18-1
Yes, they were. And their facial features are close to Caucasians'.
Posted by: 18-1
Yes, they were. And their facial features are close to Caucasians'.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 11:47 AM (9yWhg)
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My Dad was in G2 for most of WW2. Fluent in Finnish and Swedish. Every so often a Finn would come in for interrogation, prisoner from an Axis ship sinking.The main question for them was if they wanted to go to a POW camp or go logging in the PNW. Dad said most of his time was spent reading Finn newspapers, brought in via diplomatic pouches from Sweden. Little bits of intel here and there, from editorials to the price of potatoes in Helsinki.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 29, 2024 11:48 AM (0EOe9)
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Slightly off topic but not really: how the hell does Microsoft Bitdefender get away with categorizing John Kass.com as a hate site and Larry Corriea monster hunter site as porn!!! How is that not libel, intentionally interference with business relationships.????
John Kass took over from Mike Royko as columnist at Chicago tribune. He took a buyout two years ago, and know runs his own news commentary website. He's somewhat right of center but kind of Midwestern moderate really. It's crazy.
Posted by: You can say whatever you want about a. Conservative at January 29, 2024 11:32 AM (XWNpw)
Hi, Sailor!
John Kass took over from Mike Royko as columnist at Chicago tribune. He took a buyout two years ago, and know runs his own news commentary website. He's somewhat right of center but kind of Midwestern moderate really. It's crazy.
Posted by: You can say whatever you want about a. Conservative at January 29, 2024 11:32 AM (XWNpw)
Hi, Sailor!
Posted by: Linux at January 29, 2024 11:48 AM (tkR6S)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:48 AM (FVME7)
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You don't need a masters in teaching. You just need to know the subject and have an interested student...
Posted by: 18-1
And be able to break it down into non-technical terms.
Posted by: XTC
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I remember going to a speech given at the local university (UNLV) in the mid-80s by Dr. Edward Teller (the "Father of the Hydrogen Bomb"). Afterwards, he took questions from the audience, and was asked by one member what should be done about the THEN shortage of Math & Science teachers -- particularly K-12.
He was also against the "teacher's colleges" & "credentialing" -- expressing recruitment from the private sector AND that the best teachers aren't usually those with great technical grasp of subject nor great communication skills, but those with GREAT ENTHUSIASM for the subject and penchant for conveying that enthusiasm.
I was a recent Engineering grad and always wanted to teach. A decade later (mid-90s but now living and working in the Bay Area), I went to a couple of area college seminars for those interested in becoming teachers -- and it was made very clear EVEN THEN that straight white males need not apply. I knew we were doomed then ...
Posted by: 18-1
And be able to break it down into non-technical terms.
Posted by: XTC
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I remember going to a speech given at the local university (UNLV) in the mid-80s by Dr. Edward Teller (the "Father of the Hydrogen Bomb"). Afterwards, he took questions from the audience, and was asked by one member what should be done about the THEN shortage of Math & Science teachers -- particularly K-12.
He was also against the "teacher's colleges" & "credentialing" -- expressing recruitment from the private sector AND that the best teachers aren't usually those with great technical grasp of subject nor great communication skills, but those with GREAT ENTHUSIASM for the subject and penchant for conveying that enthusiasm.
I was a recent Engineering grad and always wanted to teach. A decade later (mid-90s but now living and working in the Bay Area), I went to a couple of area college seminars for those interested in becoming teachers -- and it was made very clear EVEN THEN that straight white males need not apply. I knew we were doomed then ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Civil War 2: 10th Amendment Revolution Boogaloo at January 29, 2024 11:48 AM (Th1r/)
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A different opinion will destroy our Democracy
Leftists everywhere
Leftists everywhere
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2024 11:48 AM (fwDg9)
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Baltimore . . . James M. Cain worked as a journalist there for a time after WWI. Who was the editor there? Some major-league leftist even back then, I'm sure. Walter something?
Posted by: Encino Man at January 29, 2024 11:48 AM (J2vNu)
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The old reporters in big cities were by and large people who knew the city and all of the BSing pols. The drank a lot and had sources who they drank with. They actually got out of the office and talked to people.
And once a week they'd discover a spooky and dangerous monster.
And once a week they'd discover a spooky and dangerous monster.
Posted by: spindrift at January 29, 2024 11:49 AM (MqhXY)
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>>> Stories about “climate change” would be prohibited, as would any reference to climate in stories about weather events.
I stopped all but one subscription because of that shit.
Once I saw a paragraph slipped into an otherwise 'global warming' peppered article. Something to the effect, 'However, surviving written records from 2000 years ago indicated the mountain passes were snowfree in the summer..."
Article was written about ski slopes in the Alps not getting the snow they used to because of glueball warming.
I stopped all but one subscription because of that shit.
Once I saw a paragraph slipped into an otherwise 'global warming' peppered article. Something to the effect, 'However, surviving written records from 2000 years ago indicated the mountain passes were snowfree in the summer..."
Article was written about ski slopes in the Alps not getting the snow they used to because of glueball warming.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 29, 2024 11:49 AM (pa+NK)
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“Why the right-wing takeover of Maryland’s largest newspaper is ringing alarm bells” [MSNBC – 01/21/2024]
Can't bring myself to click on that but I'm going to guess alternative opinions are a threat to Our Democracy.
Can't bring myself to click on that but I'm going to guess alternative opinions are a threat to Our Democracy.
Posted by: Ripley at January 29, 2024 11:49 AM (JojsZ)
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129 Slightly off topic but not really: how the hell does Microsoft Bitdefender get away with categorizing John Kass.com as a hate site and Larry Corriea monster hunter site as porn!!! How is that not libel, intentionally interference with business relationships.????
John Kass took over from Mike Royko as columnist at Chicago tribune. He took a buyout two years ago, and know runs his own news commentary website. He's somewhat right of center but kind of Midwestern moderate really. It's crazy.
Posted by: You can say
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The ADL and the SPLC along with Media Matters are all censorship organizations with overlapping ties to the big tech companies. Essentially, these organizations (and some lesser known ones) work in a network, probably along with fedgov agencies like CISA, etc., to provide lists to the tech companies for censorship of people and news.
This arm's length network allows both fedgov and the techlords to try to escape nasty lawsuits over libelous allegations and it also avoids the tort of interference in contracts liability for these orgs. Instead they point at the third party censorship groups as responsible and these in turn claim free speech protections.
John Kass took over from Mike Royko as columnist at Chicago tribune. He took a buyout two years ago, and know runs his own news commentary website. He's somewhat right of center but kind of Midwestern moderate really. It's crazy.
Posted by: You can say
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The ADL and the SPLC along with Media Matters are all censorship organizations with overlapping ties to the big tech companies. Essentially, these organizations (and some lesser known ones) work in a network, probably along with fedgov agencies like CISA, etc., to provide lists to the tech companies for censorship of people and news.
This arm's length network allows both fedgov and the techlords to try to escape nasty lawsuits over libelous allegations and it also avoids the tort of interference in contracts liability for these orgs. Instead they point at the third party censorship groups as responsible and these in turn claim free speech protections.
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 11:49 AM (ZcPYF)
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What's a newspaper?
Posted by: Most people at January 29, 2024 11:50 AM (HfA+E)
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The main question for them was if they wanted to go to a POW camp or go logging in the PNW.
I've read more than one account of German prisoners offered and accepting work on various Midwest farms to get out of POW camps. Was it a bad practice ? Not in my opinion - but I'm sure some farmers were more humane than others in their treatment.
I've read more than one account of German prisoners offered and accepting work on various Midwest farms to get out of POW camps. Was it a bad practice ? Not in my opinion - but I'm sure some farmers were more humane than others in their treatment.
Posted by: It Is What It Is at January 29, 2024 11:50 AM (cBmv+)
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Dad said most of his time was spent reading Finn newspapers, brought in via diplomatic pouches from Sweden. Little bits of intel here and there, from editorials to the price of potatoes in Helsinki.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
Olavi has a long moustache. . . .
Posted by: bill in arkansas
Olavi has a long moustache. . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:50 AM (IaTa3)
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They also made sure the remains of Kennewick Man disappeared. Can't have some Caucasian-looking dude upend the narrative.
removed from the museum, and given to a group of tribes who were allowed to bury the remains "in secret"
removed from the museum, and given to a group of tribes who were allowed to bury the remains "in secret"
Posted by: brak at January 29, 2024 11:51 AM (25k9m)
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What's a newspaper?
Posted by: Most people at January 29, 2024
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The thing you line the birdcage with
Posted by: Most people at January 29, 2024
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The thing you line the birdcage with
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 29, 2024 11:51 AM (J2vNu)
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So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?
Posted by: Tonypete
I am unaware of any such instances.
Posted by: Tonypete
I am unaware of any such instances.
Posted by: Harvard and Holiday Inn Historians at January 29, 2024 11:51 AM (hCzfy)
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Having worked for newspapers for more than 30 years (on the copy desk), I endorse Buck's recommendations.
The subtle bias -- "anti-abortion" versus "pro-choice " for example -- made me grind my teeth often. A car makes for a great venting chamber.
Now to see what others say.
The subtle bias -- "anti-abortion" versus "pro-choice " for example -- made me grind my teeth often. A car makes for a great venting chamber.
Now to see what others say.
Posted by: Weak Geek at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (zErLK)
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Milk Frother.
You think having it in black or brown would make it less gay as hell.
I respond with milk frother.
Just saying it...
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Interesting philosophical question: if you bedazzled a pair of croc's does that make them gayer? Gonna need some experts to weigh in...
You think having it in black or brown would make it less gay as hell.
I respond with milk frother.
Just saying it...
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Interesting philosophical question: if you bedazzled a pair of croc's does that make them gayer? Gonna need some experts to weigh in...
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (XWNpw)
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168 They also made sure the remains of Kennewick Man disappeared. Can't have some Caucasian-looking dude upend the narrative.
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Posted by: Pudinhead at January 29, 2024 11:44 AM (pZ64F)
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And that was after they hired additional "experts" and geneticists to cast doubt on his ancestry. Who knows? But I think it's almost certain -- 99% -- that Europeans were here long long before Columbus. Leif Erikson for sure. If he could make it here, then it's possible others came even earlier. And anyone of any race could have made it over the land bridge.
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Yep.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 29, 2024 11:44 AM (pZ64F)
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And that was after they hired additional "experts" and geneticists to cast doubt on his ancestry. Who knows? But I think it's almost certain -- 99% -- that Europeans were here long long before Columbus. Leif Erikson for sure. If he could make it here, then it's possible others came even earlier. And anyone of any race could have made it over the land bridge.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (iFTx/)
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I don't disagree, but when a wheel falls off a plane for no reason, there's probably 99% chance it's negligence at some level. At a time when airlines are openly bragging they're no longer hiring on merit but on DEI, I'm not sure it's unreasonable to suspect that's the culprit.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (iFTx/)
And when several instances of obvious negligence occur in a short period of time,* people start looking for a common cause, specially in an industry where negligence can equal hundreds dead.
*door blowing off the Alaskan Airlines. Bolts missing on Spirit Airlines, flaming engine on cargo plane, and the many unreported "near misses" that should NEVER happen, but have been.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:26 AM (iFTx/)
And when several instances of obvious negligence occur in a short period of time,* people start looking for a common cause, specially in an industry where negligence can equal hundreds dead.
*door blowing off the Alaskan Airlines. Bolts missing on Spirit Airlines, flaming engine on cargo plane, and the many unreported "near misses" that should NEVER happen, but have been.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (N1tpc)
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193 Arvo is drunk again. I repeat, Arvo is drunk agiain.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (0EOe9)
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Something I don't understand the absolute inability of the media to understand that they have a worldview that is not shared by everyone.
I am a politically conservative Christian. That's my worldview. I am confident in my beliefs. But I understand there are a lot of people who don't share that worldview. They are allowed to express themselves and some of them might even be intelligent and decent.
Reporters don't have that perspective at all.
Having said that I'm afraid I might not have expressed myself clearly.
I am a politically conservative Christian. That's my worldview. I am confident in my beliefs. But I understand there are a lot of people who don't share that worldview. They are allowed to express themselves and some of them might even be intelligent and decent.
Reporters don't have that perspective at all.
Having said that I'm afraid I might not have expressed myself clearly.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (Gf82x)
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>>>This reminds me - why on God's green earth would someone design a woman's bikini with a winter camo pattern?
I'm looking at you Cabela's.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Only according to where the light and dark patches are.
I'm looking at you Cabela's.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Only according to where the light and dark patches are.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:53 AM (xw5ql)
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They also made sure the remains of Kennewick Man disappeared. Can't have some Caucasian-looking dude upend the narrative.
removed from the museum, and given to a group of tribes who were allowed to bury the remains "in secret"
Posted by: brak at January 29, 2024 11:51 AM (25k9m)
The Corp of Engineers bulldozed the site to make sure that nothing else could be discovered.
That's how you do Science.
removed from the museum, and given to a group of tribes who were allowed to bury the remains "in secret"
Posted by: brak at January 29, 2024 11:51 AM (25k9m)
The Corp of Engineers bulldozed the site to make sure that nothing else could be discovered.
That's how you do Science.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 29, 2024 11:53 AM (aD39U)
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136 Identification, friend or foe (IFF) problem
The U.S. failed to stop a deadly attack on an American military outpost in Jordan because the enemy drone approached its target at the same time a U.S. drone was also returning to base, U.S. officials said Monday.
The return of the U.S. drone led to some confusion over whether the incoming drone was friend or foe, officials have concluded so far.
The enemy drone was launched from Iraq by a militia backed by Tehran, U.S. officials said. The outpost, Tower 22, sits in Jordan, hard on the borders of Iraq and Syria.
Posted by: SMOD at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (RHGPo)
Hey Joe, both sides get to make moves in a war. Maybe you need smarter people over in the Pentagon? Better tell SecDef AWOLstin to review more LGBTQwhatever applications, looking for ones with war-applicable smarts.
The U.S. failed to stop a deadly attack on an American military outpost in Jordan because the enemy drone approached its target at the same time a U.S. drone was also returning to base, U.S. officials said Monday.
The return of the U.S. drone led to some confusion over whether the incoming drone was friend or foe, officials have concluded so far.
The enemy drone was launched from Iraq by a militia backed by Tehran, U.S. officials said. The outpost, Tower 22, sits in Jordan, hard on the borders of Iraq and Syria.
Posted by: SMOD at January 29, 2024 11:33 AM (RHGPo)
Hey Joe, both sides get to make moves in a war. Maybe you need smarter people over in the Pentagon? Better tell SecDef AWOLstin to review more LGBTQwhatever applications, looking for ones with war-applicable smarts.
Posted by: Gref at January 29, 2024 11:53 AM (5fDan)
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I'm an expert on milk frothers.
Posted by: Sandra Flook at January 29, 2024 11:53 AM (V8he0)
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Which night's ONT, do you know? I don't see Sponge in any of the last few
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Mebbe Friday's ONT. The discussion revolved around the Era of Bad Feelings. I don't think Sponge directly commented but the discussion that kicked off mentioned him in the comments among others.
Think Wed or Thursday ONT was over the exile of qdpsteve. Some for him and some agin him.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Mebbe Friday's ONT. The discussion revolved around the Era of Bad Feelings. I don't think Sponge directly commented but the discussion that kicked off mentioned him in the comments among others.
Think Wed or Thursday ONT was over the exile of qdpsteve. Some for him and some agin him.
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 11:54 AM (ZcPYF)
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I've read more than one account of German prisoners offered and accepting work on various Midwest farms to get out of POW camps. Was it a bad practice ? Not in my opinion - but I'm sure some farmers were more humane than others in their treatment.
Posted by: It Is What It Is at January 29, 2024
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After the surrender of Italy, lots of Italian soldiers -- who couldn't be repatriated yet -- wound up in the U.S. They were offered limited freedom in exchange for work. A big portion got sent to New Orleans. Technically they were prisoners of war, but they were not kept in cells or anything. Many of them met American-Italian girls and got married after the war was over.
Posted by: It Is What It Is at January 29, 2024
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After the surrender of Italy, lots of Italian soldiers -- who couldn't be repatriated yet -- wound up in the U.S. They were offered limited freedom in exchange for work. A big portion got sent to New Orleans. Technically they were prisoners of war, but they were not kept in cells or anything. Many of them met American-Italian girls and got married after the war was over.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 29, 2024 11:54 AM (J2vNu)
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198 Interesting philosophical question: if you bedazzled a pair of croc's does that make them gayer? Gonna need some experts to weigh in...
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (XWNpw)
And are they still gay if you use them to kill another man?
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (XWNpw)
And are they still gay if you use them to kill another man?
Posted by: XTC at January 29, 2024 11:54 AM (UnA8+)
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IIRC he most resembled the Ainu people of Japan. Note the Ainu were probably the "indigenous" people of Japan...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:44 AM (ibTVg)
Until the proto-Koreans conquered Japan.
(Don't tell the Koreans and the Japanese they are closely related, though.)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2024 11:44 AM (ibTVg)
Until the proto-Koreans conquered Japan.
(Don't tell the Koreans and the Japanese they are closely related, though.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:55 AM (N1tpc)
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188 >>> Stories about “climate change” would be prohibited, as would any reference to climate in stories about weather events.
I stopped all but one subscription because of that shit.
Once I saw a paragraph slipped into an otherwise 'global warming' peppered article. Something to the effect, 'However, surviving written records from 2000 years ago indicated the mountain passes were snowfree in the summer..."
Article was written about ski slopes in the Alps not getting the snow they used to because of glueball warming.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 29, 2024 11:49 AM (pa+NK)
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My favorite is the never-ending bullshit about the disappearing glaciers. First off, glaciers expand and move and recede all the time throughout history. Secondly -- and this is what gets me -- they're bitching about glaciers that have 100s of thousands of people a year skiing on it, snowboarding on it, hiking on it, etc. Well yea, of course it's gonna wear down quicker!
I stopped all but one subscription because of that shit.
Once I saw a paragraph slipped into an otherwise 'global warming' peppered article. Something to the effect, 'However, surviving written records from 2000 years ago indicated the mountain passes were snowfree in the summer..."
Article was written about ski slopes in the Alps not getting the snow they used to because of glueball warming.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 29, 2024 11:49 AM (pa+NK)
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My favorite is the never-ending bullshit about the disappearing glaciers. First off, glaciers expand and move and recede all the time throughout history. Secondly -- and this is what gets me -- they're bitching about glaciers that have 100s of thousands of people a year skiing on it, snowboarding on it, hiking on it, etc. Well yea, of course it's gonna wear down quicker!
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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If I had purchased a gay, pink, frother, the last thing I would do is broadcast that fact on a smart military blog.
Posted by: Manly Mike at January 29, 2024 11:56 AM (V5BDR)
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210 (Don't tell the Koreans and the Japanese they are closely related, though.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:55 AM (N1tpc)
I mean, they allow Zainichi to adopt fully-Japanese names and probably interbreed with them...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 29, 2024 11:55 AM (N1tpc)
I mean, they allow Zainichi to adopt fully-Japanese names and probably interbreed with them...
Posted by: XTC at January 29, 2024 11:57 AM (UnA8+)
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This redhead in cutoff shorts has nothing but the deepest loathing and contempt for "journalists:"
http://tiny.cc/1bqkwz
http://tiny.cc/1bqkwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 11:57 AM (mwCIn)
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My favorite is the never-ending bullshit about the disappearing glaciers.
The retreating glaciers often reveal tree stumps.
The retreating glaciers often reveal tree stumps.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 29, 2024 11:57 AM (aD39U)
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202 Something I don't understand the absolute inability of the media to understand that they have a worldview that is not shared by everyone.
I am a politically conservative Christian. That's my worldview. I am confident in my beliefs. But I understand there are a lot of people who don't share that worldview. They are allowed to express themselves and some of them might even be intelligent and decent.
Reporters don't have that perspective at all.
Having said that I'm afraid I might not have expressed myself clearly.
Posted by: Northernlurker
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You expressed yourself fine. I think that the transition from reporters to journalists is part of it. Materialism is another part of it. Old timey reporters were often skeptical because like cops, they often covered really awful situations that led to speculation of how a just Lord could permit it. Journalists, on the other hand, fully embraced the zeitgeist of universities and leftism where the state and the Dem party is worshipped instead the Lord.
I am a politically conservative Christian. That's my worldview. I am confident in my beliefs. But I understand there are a lot of people who don't share that worldview. They are allowed to express themselves and some of them might even be intelligent and decent.
Reporters don't have that perspective at all.
Having said that I'm afraid I might not have expressed myself clearly.
Posted by: Northernlurker
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You expressed yourself fine. I think that the transition from reporters to journalists is part of it. Materialism is another part of it. Old timey reporters were often skeptical because like cops, they often covered really awful situations that led to speculation of how a just Lord could permit it. Journalists, on the other hand, fully embraced the zeitgeist of universities and leftism where the state and the Dem party is worshipped instead the Lord.
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 11:57 AM (ZcPYF)
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It's better than that - she's a white lesbian.
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I saw a stat the other day that 75% of lesbian marriages end in divorce. It's understandable. I mean, they're all married to women.
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I saw a stat the other day that 75% of lesbian marriages end in divorce. It's understandable. I mean, they're all married to women.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 11:57 AM (FVME7)
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208 Italian prisoners were common doing agricultural work in Ohio and the lake shore of W PA. Tomatoes and grapes. Fairly paid, many settled here.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 29, 2024 11:58 AM (0EOe9)
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"So, what is to be done with artifacts that originally belonged to tribes wiped out by murderous, more brutal tribes? Shall they be given to the victors?
Posted by: Tonypete"
In the interests of respect to for the native tribes, all such artifacts will be destroyed, so that no one will ever know the defeated existed and we can continue presenting unopposed the idea that all amerindian tribes were peaceful nature loving hippies.
Posted by: Tonypete"
In the interests of respect to for the native tribes, all such artifacts will be destroyed, so that no one will ever know the defeated existed and we can continue presenting unopposed the idea that all amerindian tribes were peaceful nature loving hippies.
Posted by: Your Political Comissars at January 29, 2024 11:58 AM (ou9hh)
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if you bedazzled a pair of croc's does that make them gayer? Gonna need some experts to weigh in...
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (XWNpw)
You know...we do have an expert on that sort of thing...
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (XWNpw)
You know...we do have an expert on that sort of thing...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:58 AM (gSZYf)
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Black and especially brown or dark green machines are easier to clean.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 11:58 AM (xw5ql)
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Prohibit reporters from using Twitter or websites to mine stories (very lazy [said in a Trump voice]).
Discourage (but don't eliminate) reportage via email. Have reporters telephone or visit subjects to get quotes or interviews. You can tell a lot by a tone of voice, a pause, an unintended utterance, that you can't by email.
Root out newsroom rah-rah, left or right. For example, news broadcasts that lefty candidate has just won. All reporters let out a hooray
Discourage (but don't eliminate) reportage via email. Have reporters telephone or visit subjects to get quotes or interviews. You can tell a lot by a tone of voice, a pause, an unintended utterance, that you can't by email.
Root out newsroom rah-rah, left or right. For example, news broadcasts that lefty candidate has just won. All reporters let out a hooray
Posted by: Sphynx at January 29, 2024 11:58 AM (lqWzy)
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Milk Frother.
You think having it in black or brown would make it less gay as hell.
I respond with milk frother.
Just saying it...
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Interesting philosophical question: if you bedazzled a pair of croc's does that make them gayer? Gonna need some experts to weigh in...
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (XWNpw)
Well, IMHO camo crocs...
Oh, you want an expert. Nevermind.
You think having it in black or brown would make it less gay as hell.
I respond with milk frother.
Just saying it...
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Interesting philosophical question: if you bedazzled a pair of croc's does that make them gayer? Gonna need some experts to weigh in...
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (XWNpw)
Well, IMHO camo crocs...
Oh, you want an expert. Nevermind.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2024 11:58 AM (FCbAQ)
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"And anyone of any race could have made it over the land bridge."
I've always thought that the oldest arrivals came here by ship and landed in central America.
That's where the most advanced civilizations were.
The ones that built pyramids.
Then, groups broke off and lost the knowledge and skills of the higher civilizations as they spread north and south.
These people ended up wearing animals skins and devolving the further the got away from the original landfall in central America.
"And anyone of any race could have made it over the land bridge."
I've always thought that the oldest arrivals came here by ship and landed in central America.
That's where the most advanced civilizations were.
The ones that built pyramids.
Then, groups broke off and lost the knowledge and skills of the higher civilizations as they spread north and south.
These people ended up wearing animals skins and devolving the further the got away from the original landfall in central America.
Posted by: Speller at January 29, 2024 11:59 AM (pSotA)
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220 if you bedazzled a pair of croc's does that make them gayer? Gonna need some experts to weigh in...
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (XWNpw)
You know...we do have an expert on that sort of thing...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:58 AM (gSZYf)
It's only gay if you put "crocticles" on them.
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 11:52 AM (XWNpw)
You know...we do have an expert on that sort of thing...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2024 11:58 AM (gSZYf)
It's only gay if you put "crocticles" on them.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 29, 2024 11:59 AM (N39Ws)
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Will there be gun ads and gunshop ads?
Posted by: Cosda at January 29, 2024 11:59 AM (zv3+o)
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So, crocs can be mentioned here, but not You-Gee-Gees.
Posted by: XTC at January 29, 2024 11:59 AM (UnA8+)
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Is it gay as hell? You bet! Could I have gotten something gayer? ...Uh, no, this is probably the gayest one they had. But it was on sale and I saved five bucks and *that* is the important thing.
Posted by: Robert at January 29, 2024 11:38 AM (1Yy3c)
As long as you completely over-do it while using it until the milk curdles, you're fine.
Because remember: It ain't ghey if it's under whey.
Posted by: Robert at January 29, 2024 11:38 AM (1Yy3c)
As long as you completely over-do it while using it until the milk curdles, you're fine.
Because remember: It ain't ghey if it's under whey.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2024 12:00 PM (VoAdT)
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*door blowing off the Alaskan Airlines. Bolts missing on Spirit Airlines, flaming engine on cargo plane, and the many unreported "near misses" that should NEVER happen, but have been.
Point of order: the flaming engine is the engine maker (GE)'s fault, not Boeing's. But GE has its own DEI of course.
Point of order: the flaming engine is the engine maker (GE)'s fault, not Boeing's. But GE has its own DEI of course.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2024 12:00 PM (2ocoG)
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I love my CZ Scorpion but it comes in five colors, all much better than the black one I have. I will forever turn down a purchase I researched, if it's not in a color I like.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 29, 2024 12:00 PM (cf/0E)
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She's very pale.
Posted by: Just an observation at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (HfA+E)
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Crocs, the Kaboom of footwear.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (cf/0E)
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215 My favorite is the never-ending bullshit about the disappearing glaciers.
The retreating glaciers often reveal tree stumps.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 29, 2024 11:57 AM (aD39U)
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Yup. They were clearly not there at one point. They probably came and went dozens of times over the millennia. People are stupid and don't understand what millions of years -- forget about billions -- of years can do. The Blue Ridge mountains in Northeast USA are some of the oldest mountains in the world. They were once as high as the Himalayas. But a billion years of wear and tear wore them down to where they are now.
The retreating glaciers often reveal tree stumps.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 29, 2024 11:57 AM (aD39U)
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Yup. They were clearly not there at one point. They probably came and went dozens of times over the millennia. People are stupid and don't understand what millions of years -- forget about billions -- of years can do. The Blue Ridge mountains in Northeast USA are some of the oldest mountains in the world. They were once as high as the Himalayas. But a billion years of wear and tear wore them down to where they are now.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
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My favorite is the never-ending bullshit about the disappearing glaciers. First off, glaciers expand and move and recede all the time throughout history. Secondly -- and this is what gets me -- they're bitching about glaciers that have 100s of thousands of people a year skiing on it, snowboarding on it, hiking on it, etc. Well yea, of course it's gonna wear down quicker!
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
Most 'receding' glaciers likely do so because of less ice mass in sections due to lower snowfall for many years, occurring hundreds or thousands of years ago. But cows farting today cause glaciers to melt tomorrow. Insanity.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
Most 'receding' glaciers likely do so because of less ice mass in sections due to lower snowfall for many years, occurring hundreds or thousands of years ago. But cows farting today cause glaciers to melt tomorrow. Insanity.
Posted by: Gref at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (5fDan)
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Good Rant.
Electronic Frontier Foundation, Jan. 24, 2024: The PRESS Act Will Protect Journalists When They Need It Most
In part, "Our government shouldn’t be spying on journalists. Nor should law enforcement agencies force journalists to identify their confidential sources or go to prison.
To fix this, we need to change the law. Now, we’ve got our best chance in years. The House of Representatives has passed the Protect Reporters from Exploitive State Spying (PRESS) Act, H.R. 4250, and it’s one of the strongest federal shield bills for journalists we’ve seen.
Our government shouldn’t be spying on journalists. Nor should law enforcement agencies force journalists to identify their confidential sources or go to prison."
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"While journalists are well protected in many states, federal law is currently lacking in protections. That’s had serious consequences for journalists, and for all Americans’ right to freely access information."
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One more broad Federal law of which I doubt it's to protect, for example, the journalists of the Epoch Times.
But, who knows?
Electronic Frontier Foundation, Jan. 24, 2024: The PRESS Act Will Protect Journalists When They Need It Most
In part, "Our government shouldn’t be spying on journalists. Nor should law enforcement agencies force journalists to identify their confidential sources or go to prison.
To fix this, we need to change the law. Now, we’ve got our best chance in years. The House of Representatives has passed the Protect Reporters from Exploitive State Spying (PRESS) Act, H.R. 4250, and it’s one of the strongest federal shield bills for journalists we’ve seen.
Our government shouldn’t be spying on journalists. Nor should law enforcement agencies force journalists to identify their confidential sources or go to prison."
...
"While journalists are well protected in many states, federal law is currently lacking in protections. That’s had serious consequences for journalists, and for all Americans’ right to freely access information."
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One more broad Federal law of which I doubt it's to protect, for example, the journalists of the Epoch Times.
But, who knows?
Posted by: L - Confident they're working on new 'rope-a-dope' techniques for the Presidential election at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (GshMh)
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No more "Republicans pounce" headlines. When Democrats behave badly make THAT the story and not, as Jim Treacher said, the Republicans' or conservatives' reaction.
Posted by: Smarty Skirt at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (6t0wP)
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Who in Baltimore actually reads
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One of the things that accidentally came out during the Saint George festivals of 2020 is that 75% of all urban populations in areas like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. are illiterate. Not functionally illiterate. Illiterate.
I can only figure the MSM reported it in hopes of garnering sympathy and understanding, but instead it makes everything make much more sense.
Also those schools need more money, and all the kids graduating should go to college.
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One of the things that accidentally came out during the Saint George festivals of 2020 is that 75% of all urban populations in areas like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc. are illiterate. Not functionally illiterate. Illiterate.
I can only figure the MSM reported it in hopes of garnering sympathy and understanding, but instead it makes everything make much more sense.
Also those schools need more money, and all the kids graduating should go to college.
Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 29, 2024 12:02 PM (k1AR8)
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When Plymouth Rock becomes submerged consideration will be due.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 29, 2024 12:02 PM (xw5ql)
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All stories would have to read like a police report.
Who, what, why, when, where & how. No opinons.
You report. WE decide.
Posted by: rickb223
So you're saying Reality is Right-wing?
Then why do Leftists call themselves the "reality-based community?"
/s
Who, what, why, when, where & how. No opinons.
You report. WE decide.
Posted by: rickb223
So you're saying Reality is Right-wing?
Then why do Leftists call themselves the "reality-based community?"
/s
Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2024 12:02 PM (D+yrB)
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What's so bad about carbon?
Posted by: I would like to know at January 29, 2024 12:02 PM (HfA+E)
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219 Little Bobby Jones, surviving the flash bang thrown through his window, resists the Feds trying to get his arrow head collection. Marlin 39 in hand, he was last heard yelling "top of the world, Ma, top of the world".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 29, 2024 12:02 PM (0EOe9)
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The Blue Ridge mountains in Northeast USA are some of the oldest mountains in the world. They were once as high as the Himalayas. But a billion years of wear and tear wore them down to where they are now.
It's a good thing, or Skyline Drive would be really difficult to negotiate.
It's a good thing, or Skyline Drive would be really difficult to negotiate.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 12:03 PM (CsUN+)
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The local rag here was a family run paper. Center left politics wise, but tolerable. After a couple of buyouts/mergers it is owned by Gannett. All that is left is hard core leftists. No local reporters. Any articles are written by content management people somewhere hundreds of miles away.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
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I have often pointed out here that Gannett bought out 100 local newspapers, including ours. The local paper is now just a puff piece, aside from the promotion of some local Lefty 'news'. They even sold the building, the paper isn't even printed here. They imported a publisher from Hawaii, because he would fit right in in western NC, right? I assume that similar destruction of the other papers occured, i.e., there is no longer a responsible local paper, just a Gannett operative.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
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I have often pointed out here that Gannett bought out 100 local newspapers, including ours. The local paper is now just a puff piece, aside from the promotion of some local Lefty 'news'. They even sold the building, the paper isn't even printed here. They imported a publisher from Hawaii, because he would fit right in in western NC, right? I assume that similar destruction of the other papers occured, i.e., there is no longer a responsible local paper, just a Gannett operative.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2024 12:03 PM (XeU6L)
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Most 'receding' glaciers likely do so because of less ice mass in sections due to lower snowfall for many years, occurring hundreds or thousands of years ago. But cows farting today cause glaciers to melt tomorrow. Insanity.
Posted by: Gref at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (5fDan)
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And bits of ice shelves shearing off. ANTARCTICA IS SHRINKING! GREENLAND IS DISAPPEARING! SEA LEVELS TO RISE! LOOK AT THE DRAMATIC SHEARING OF ICE THANKS TO MAN'S DISGRACE!
Every damn time. And yet, despite that, they never ever report on ice levels (which grow and shrink all the time) when they increase. But every decrease is disastrous evidence of Man's climate sins.
Posted by: Gref at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (5fDan)
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And bits of ice shelves shearing off. ANTARCTICA IS SHRINKING! GREENLAND IS DISAPPEARING! SEA LEVELS TO RISE! LOOK AT THE DRAMATIC SHEARING OF ICE THANKS TO MAN'S DISGRACE!
Every damn time. And yet, despite that, they never ever report on ice levels (which grow and shrink all the time) when they increase. But every decrease is disastrous evidence of Man's climate sins.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 12:03 PM (mwCIn)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 12:04 PM (FVME7)
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I've read more than one account of German prisoners offered and accepting work on various Midwest farms to get out of POW camps. Was it a bad practice ? Not in my opinion - but I'm sure some farmers were more humane than others in their treatment.
Posted by: It Is What It Is at January 29, 2024
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I first heard about this also being practiced in Britain while reading the All Creatures Great And Small series of books.
Posted by: It Is What It Is at January 29, 2024
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I first heard about this also being practiced in Britain while reading the All Creatures Great And Small series of books.
Posted by: ShainS -- Civil War 2: 10th Amendment Revolution Boogaloo at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (Th1r/)
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These people ended up wearing animals skins and devolving the further the got away from the original landfall in central America.
Posted by: Speller at January 29, 2024 11:59 AM (pSotA)
Ay plegli ianectu flaggen, tupep like for stahn...
Posted by: Speller at January 29, 2024 11:59 AM (pSotA)
Ay plegli ianectu flaggen, tupep like for stahn...
Posted by: Cloud William at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (Dc73h)
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Crocs, the Kaboom of footwear.
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Might as well wear a sign around your neck sayin: I can't tie my own shoes.
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Might as well wear a sign around your neck sayin: I can't tie my own shoes.
Posted by: BUZZFEED at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (XWNpw)
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Who can afford to pay $125k and then live in NYc making $45k? Sons and daughters of the elite, that’s who. And that’s who makes up the “news” media today. They have zero understanding of real people or anything outside the Ivy league world.
Posted by: Montec at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (F9jE7)
Also why the same people are pushing to make physical prostitution legal and seem oddly sympathetic to the mistress in any triangle.
Posted by: Montec at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (F9jE7)
Also why the same people are pushing to make physical prostitution legal and seem oddly sympathetic to the mistress in any triangle.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (nC+QA)
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I'm Browne from the Sun....
Posted by: The Paper of Record at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (V5BDR)
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Biden Planning Campaign Event With Bill Clinton and Barack Obama
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That'll turn it around!
It'll be interesting to see the dynamic between BJ and Toonces. I'm sure they each think they're top dog and hate the other guy.
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That'll turn it around!
It'll be interesting to see the dynamic between BJ and Toonces. I'm sure they each think they're top dog and hate the other guy.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (CsUN+)
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How many "journalists" lost their jobs last year? How many more will once someone starts printing facts.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (W/lyH)
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If I had purchased a gay, pink, frother, the last thing I would do is broadcast that fact on a smart military blog.
Posted by: Manly Mike at January 29, 2024 11:56 AM (V5BDR)
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I have a manly black and chrome milk frother.
Posted by: Manly Mike at January 29, 2024 11:56 AM (V5BDR)
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I have a manly black and chrome milk frother.
Posted by: Axeman at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (krQz2)
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Focus on quality of life issues. Heaven knows, Baltimore has plenty of them: public safety, high crime, unemployment, inept mayors, to name a few. Are there adequate, well-maintained parks and recreation facilities? Policing?
Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 29, 2024 12:06 PM (04f4V)
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What's so bad about carbon?
Posted by: I would like to know at January 29, 2024 12:02 PM (HfA+E)
Carbon bags of water BAD.
Posted by: I would like to know at January 29, 2024 12:02 PM (HfA+E)
Carbon bags of water BAD.
Posted by: Horta at January 29, 2024 12:06 PM (AiZBA)
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Most 'receding' glaciers likely do so because of less ice mass in sections due to lower snowfall for many years, occurring hundreds or thousands of years ago. But cows farting today cause glaciers to melt tomorrow. Insanity.
Posted by: Gref
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I have to admit that I feel a certain regret regarding glacial recession. I would prefer that Manhattan was still covered with ice.
Posted by: Gref
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I have to admit that I feel a certain regret regarding glacial recession. I would prefer that Manhattan was still covered with ice.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2024 12:06 PM (XeU6L)
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"However, surviving written records from 2000 years ago indicated the mountain passes were snowfree in the summer...""
Someone should tell them that a pass isn't a pass if it isn't free of snow for some part of the year.
Someone should tell them that a pass isn't a pass if it isn't free of snow for some part of the year.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 29, 2024 12:06 PM (ou9hh)
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How many of these journalists want their job back so they can tell us how great the Biden economy is?
So that they can continue to ignore and downplay so many others losing their jobs?
So that they can continue to ignore and downplay so many others losing their jobs?
Posted by: Axeman at January 29, 2024 12:07 PM (krQz2)
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The lefty fucksticks all hate each other.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 29, 2024 12:07 PM (R4t5M)
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239 All stories would have to read like a police report.
Who, what, why, when, where & how. No opinons.
You report. WE decide.
Posted by: rickb223
If you read many police reports, most are about as fictional as news stories are. Hearsay, opinions, etc. are often components. The only thing that is different is that a lot of police are relatively lazy in reports due to work overload and they don't put a lot of time in it.
Lawdog published some hilarious reports that he did as supervising correctional officer when he realized that few people read them or cared in officialdom. Think they may still be on The Firing Line gun forum but also published in Lawdog's first book, first ed.
Who, what, why, when, where & how. No opinons.
You report. WE decide.
Posted by: rickb223
If you read many police reports, most are about as fictional as news stories are. Hearsay, opinions, etc. are often components. The only thing that is different is that a lot of police are relatively lazy in reports due to work overload and they don't put a lot of time in it.
Lawdog published some hilarious reports that he did as supervising correctional officer when he realized that few people read them or cared in officialdom. Think they may still be on The Firing Line gun forum but also published in Lawdog's first book, first ed.
Posted by: whig at January 29, 2024 12:07 PM (ZcPYF)
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Biden Planning Campaign Event With Bill Clinton and Barack Obama
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That'll turn it around!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 12:04 PM (FVME7)
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What, Jimmy Carter wasn't available?
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That'll turn it around!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 12:04 PM (FVME7)
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What, Jimmy Carter wasn't available?
Posted by: ShainS -- Civil War 2: 10th Amendment Revolution Boogaloo at January 29, 2024 12:07 PM (Th1r/)
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Might as well wear a sign around your neck sayin: I can't tie my own shoes.
Posted by: BUZZFEED
I hate tying shoes. Effing waste of time. I tie them when I first buy them, then leave them tied. Only if they happen to come untied in the course of time do I retie them.
Posted by: BUZZFEED
I hate tying shoes. Effing waste of time. I tie them when I first buy them, then leave them tied. Only if they happen to come untied in the course of time do I retie them.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 12:07 PM (9yWhg)
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"However, surviving written records from 2000 years ago indicated the mountain passes were snowfree in the summer...""
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THOSE records are accurate. Your skygod book is stupid and fake.
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THOSE records are accurate. Your skygod book is stupid and fake.
Posted by: Moron Robbie stands in support of afro-chemistry, afro-economics, and afro-engineering at January 29, 2024 12:07 PM (k1AR8)
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249 Who can afford to pay $125k and then live in NYc making $45k? Sons and daughters of the elite, that’s who. And that’s who makes up the “news” media today. They have zero understanding of real people or anything outside the Ivy league world.
Posted by: Montec at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (F9jE7)
Also why the same people are pushing to make physical prostitution legal and seem oddly sympathetic to the mistress in any triangle.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (nC+QA)
They typically live in their rich parents' second-or-third residence, which is already fully paid for (See : Faggy Ass Carlos Maza, whose mother is a tech BILLIONAIRE).
Posted by: Montec at January 29, 2024 11:19 AM (F9jE7)
Also why the same people are pushing to make physical prostitution legal and seem oddly sympathetic to the mistress in any triangle.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (nC+QA)
They typically live in their rich parents' second-or-third residence, which is already fully paid for (See : Faggy Ass Carlos Maza, whose mother is a tech BILLIONAIRE).
Posted by: XTC at January 29, 2024 12:07 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 12:08 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Archimedes at January 29, 2024 12:08 PM (CsUN+)
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Will the conservatives paper be able to figure out the motivation of a mass murderer named Achmed?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 29, 2024 12:08 PM (Gf82x)
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Sam Drucker ably served as editor, owner, and reporter on our award winning newspaper.
Posted by: Hooterville World Guardian at January 29, 2024 12:08 PM (V5BDR)
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257 "However, surviving written records from 2000 years ago indicated the mountain passes were snowfree in the summer...""
Someone should tell them that a pass isn't a pass if it isn't free of snow for some part of the year.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 29, 2024 12:06 PM (ou9hh)
Really?
Someone should tell them that a pass isn't a pass if it isn't free of snow for some part of the year.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 29, 2024 12:06 PM (ou9hh)
Really?
Posted by: Hannibal Barca at January 29, 2024 12:08 PM (5fDan)
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224 very possible
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2024 12:08 PM (fwDg9)
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But cows farting today cause glaciers to melt tomorrow.
Y'know who else could melt a glacier all by himself?
Y'know who else could melt a glacier all by himself?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 29, 2024 12:09 PM (TTak+)
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I have a manly black and chrome milk frother.
Posted by: Axeman at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (krQz2)
If I want frothy milk, I juggle the cow for ten minutes.
Posted by: Axeman at January 29, 2024 12:05 PM (krQz2)
If I want frothy milk, I juggle the cow for ten minutes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2024 12:09 PM (tkR6S)
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/sock
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at January 29, 2024 12:09 PM (AiZBA)
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244 Most 'receding' glaciers likely do so because of less ice mass in sections due to lower snowfall for many years, occurring hundreds or thousands of years ago. But cows farting today cause glaciers to melt tomorrow. Insanity.
Posted by: Gref at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (5fDan)
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And bits of ice shelves shearing off. ANTARCTICA IS SHRINKING! GREENLAND IS DISAPPEARING! SEA LEVELS TO RISE! LOOK AT THE DRAMATIC SHEARING OF ICE THANKS TO MAN'S DISGRACE!
Every damn time. And yet, despite that, they never ever report on ice levels (which grow and shrink all the time) when they increase. But every decrease is disastrous evidence of Man's climate sins.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 12:03 PM (mwCIn)
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Any skier can tell you that you can literally watch a mountain come down. Go up a chairlift and watch areas of fresh snow. You'll see rocks and other mountain debris rolling down, as well as paths where they already have. That's the mountain wearing down. Multiply that by a million years (or even hundreds of thousands) and there's no mountain left. Rain, snow, wind, storms, etc. will eventually level Mt Everest.
Posted by: Gref at January 29, 2024 12:01 PM (5fDan)
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And bits of ice shelves shearing off. ANTARCTICA IS SHRINKING! GREENLAND IS DISAPPEARING! SEA LEVELS TO RISE! LOOK AT THE DRAMATIC SHEARING OF ICE THANKS TO MAN'S DISGRACE!
Every damn time. And yet, despite that, they never ever report on ice levels (which grow and shrink all the time) when they increase. But every decrease is disastrous evidence of Man's climate sins.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024 12:03 PM (mwCIn)
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Any skier can tell you that you can literally watch a mountain come down. Go up a chairlift and watch areas of fresh snow. You'll see rocks and other mountain debris rolling down, as well as paths where they already have. That's the mountain wearing down. Multiply that by a million years (or even hundreds of thousands) and there's no mountain left. Rain, snow, wind, storms, etc. will eventually level Mt Everest.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 29, 2024 12:10 PM (iFTx/)
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It's been speculated that the Polynesians made it all the way to South America and had commerce with the Indians there. I think there's even DNA analysis that supports the idea.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 29, 2024 12:11 PM (9yWhg)
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THE BOSS HAZ A NOOD
Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2024 12:11 PM (fwDg9)
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Nood
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 29, 2024 12:11 PM (R4t5M)
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246 There was a story about German POWs at an AZ POW camp. Kriegsmarine officers. They got hold of a local map and found the Salt River went to the Gulf of Baja and decided to escape, building a take down boat. They didn't realize the Salt River is a river for a few days out of the year and the rest of the time an arroyo.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 29, 2024 12:11 PM (0EOe9)
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I hate tying shoes. Effing waste of time. I tie them when I first buy them, then leave them tied. Only if they happen to come untied in the course of time do I retie them.
How in the heck do you get your feet in them? Crisco?
How in the heck do you get your feet in them? Crisco?
Posted by: That guy who always asks... at January 29, 2024 12:12 PM (V8he0)
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French Farmers Plan to Put Paris “Under Seige” With Tractor Protest
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What they need is the national razor.
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What they need is the national razor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at January 29, 2024 12:13 PM (FVME7)
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211 My favorite is the never-ending bullshit about the disappearing glaciers. First off, glaciers expand and move and recede all the time throughout history. Secondly -- and this is what gets me -- they're bitching about glaciers that have 100s of thousands of people a year skiing on it, snowboarding on it, hiking on it, etc. Well yea, of course it's gonna wear down quicker!
hmmmm. *taps chin* makes note: "product idea: hoverskis"
hmmmm. *taps chin* makes note: "product idea: hoverskis"
Posted by: anachronda at January 29, 2024 12:13 PM (oY6Yp)
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53 I'd say it comes down to personnel, personnel is policy. Hire Conservatives across the board and hold them accountable to uphold (or spin) Conservative values.
Fire liberally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Day one: Fire the top three levels of 'leadership'.
Day two: Fire everyone that signed the petition bitching about Day one.
Day Three: Start putting out a decent product.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:14 AM (IaTa3)
Day one: divide reporters into groups of ten. Nine of them will beat one of the group to death with their laptops. Repeat until the proper motivation is established.
Fire liberally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Day one: Fire the top three levels of 'leadership'.
Day two: Fire everyone that signed the petition bitching about Day one.
Day Three: Start putting out a decent product.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2024 11:14 AM (IaTa3)
Day one: divide reporters into groups of ten. Nine of them will beat one of the group to death with their laptops. Repeat until the proper motivation is established.
Posted by: Decimation. Not just for Legionnaires anymore. at January 29, 2024 12:14 PM (pKFK0)
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Don't most young people believe they are going to "change the world"? I will bet that J-schools feed that belief, putting it on steroids. So every writer, whether it's the editorial page or "Hints for Homemakers", has to cram their progressive opinions into every piece.
Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 29, 2024 12:16 PM (7x3pz)
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It is NOT warm out thar....
Posted by: JT at January 29, 2024 12:16 PM (T4tVD)
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This redhead in cutoff shorts has nothing but the deepest loathing and contempt for "journalists:"
http://tiny.cc/1bqkwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024
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That's Maitland Ward, former mainstream and now pr0n actress.
http://tiny.cc/1bqkwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 29, 2024
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That's Maitland Ward, former mainstream and now pr0n actress.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 29, 2024 12:19 PM (J2vNu)
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Don't need to be "right-wing", just be complete in your reporting. For example, have you ever heard WHAT it is that House Republicans object to about the "bipartisan" immigration deal? Certainly not in the mainstream media you haven't!
You hear it here all the time. But not on NPR.
You hear it here all the time. But not on NPR.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 29, 2024 12:20 PM (8Ta2Y)
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French Farmers Plan to Put Paris “Under Seige” With Tractor Protest
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What they need is the national razor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Quit sending food to Paris.
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What they need is the national razor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Quit sending food to Paris.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2024 12:20 PM (SbJgO)
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The Hill, Joe Biden is our third Black president
BY Juan Williams, Opinion Contributor - 10/09/23 9:30 AM ET
"Twenty-five years ago, novelist Toni Morrison famously labeled Bill Clinton as “the first Black president.” The first actual Black president, Barack Obama, would come later. But Morrison's memorable one-liner still gets laughs."
FJB needs the Black vote again, they say. For 2020, it was Obama and Hillary with Rep. Jim Clyburn, SC-D, reported to have pushed him over the finish line.
Now, Obama and Bill Clinton, The 1st Black President, for 2024, and then they'll bring Clyburn out once more to cinch the deal right before the election. (Clyburn was part of Nan's package deal in the House, remember?)
Anyway, it'll -along with boat loads of $ - work for many women, I think, with men still being iffy. (And why NJ's King Philip the Unaccountable proposes teen voting.)
BY Juan Williams, Opinion Contributor - 10/09/23 9:30 AM ET
"Twenty-five years ago, novelist Toni Morrison famously labeled Bill Clinton as “the first Black president.” The first actual Black president, Barack Obama, would come later. But Morrison's memorable one-liner still gets laughs."
FJB needs the Black vote again, they say. For 2020, it was Obama and Hillary with Rep. Jim Clyburn, SC-D, reported to have pushed him over the finish line.
Now, Obama and Bill Clinton, The 1st Black President, for 2024, and then they'll bring Clyburn out once more to cinch the deal right before the election. (Clyburn was part of Nan's package deal in the House, remember?)
Anyway, it'll -along with boat loads of $ - work for many women, I think, with men still being iffy. (And why NJ's King Philip the Unaccountable proposes teen voting.)
Posted by: L - Confident they're working on new 'rope-a-dope' techniques for the Presidential election at January 29, 2024 12:23 PM (GshMh)
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Good luck finding anyone other than woke "journalists" looking to advance Democrat-Communist interests -- that's the way they're indoctrinated in J School. Just like with Republican Presidents, the rank and file employees will start undermining the new owner from day one.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (qUkBO)
Plenty of talented writers out there that aren't J-School certified. I'd put this blog's own cob loggers as good examples.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at January 29, 2024 11:13 AM (qUkBO)
Plenty of talented writers out there that aren't J-School certified. I'd put this blog's own cob loggers as good examples.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 29, 2024 12:23 PM (BdMk6)
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I actually own/run/edit a small local weekly newspaper. Never went to j-school or had any intention of doing news...yet here I am. I run it the way I want to. I don't use AP for style...or for anything. We are ultra-local, do not cover anything national (except in my ultra-conservative column), and generally do our best to reflect the small-town rural Christian interests of the few remaining senior citizens who read our print pages. 
The government is doing everything it can to run us out of business by allowing governments to post their legal notices on a webpage instead of in the paper...legals are the major source of our revenue these days...but we are holding on. They'd love it if there was no coverage of the underhanded schemes and "buddy deals" going on at the local and state levels. I've absorbed neighboring counties as their small local papers have died...trying to give all the kids a chance to be on the front page winning football games or whatever. However, it's a losing game. Eventually the day will come when we can't scrape up the $2,000 it costs us to print. I haven't paid myself in ages::shrug:: I'm hanging on to my day job in the meantime in real estate.
The government is doing everything it can to run us out of business by allowing governments to post their legal notices on a webpage instead of in the paper...legals are the major source of our revenue these days...but we are holding on. They'd love it if there was no coverage of the underhanded schemes and "buddy deals" going on at the local and state levels. I've absorbed neighboring counties as their small local papers have died...trying to give all the kids a chance to be on the front page winning football games or whatever. However, it's a losing game. Eventually the day will come when we can't scrape up the $2,000 it costs us to print. I haven't paid myself in ages::shrug:: I'm hanging on to my day job in the meantime in real estate. Posted by: Kathy in FL at January 29, 2024 12:45 PM (vTI1T)
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"Feel free to offer up your ideas in the comments."
All male children under 16 years old.....are now.............16 years old.
All male children under 16 years old.....are now.............16 years old.
Posted by: look whats not at January 29, 2024 01:07 PM (nakGR)
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Local news outlets would do much better at most levels if they focused primarily on their local area.
Posted by: Jim at January 29, 2024 01:07 PM (zhWvq)
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I would add a rule - let people say what they think. avoid summarizing the opinions and statements of others. Don't be afraid to have long quotes.
Posted by: Garbled memo at January 29, 2024 01:15 PM (mvURQ)
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demand down the middle reporting ... period ... not right or left ... anyone deviating ... gets to write for someone else ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at January 29, 2024 01:46 PM (DBAaD)
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Hallelujah!!!
I subscribed to support a hopefully less idiotic BS.
I was a photographer for the college paper where the graduates would work for the Sun.
I subscribed to support a hopefully less idiotic BS.
I was a photographer for the college paper where the graduates would work for the Sun.
Posted by: KungPow at January 29, 2024 03:19 PM (Rw2Dy)
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"10 It's the lowest-level staff, the reporters, who decide upon the slant of a paper's journalism. Note that the Wall Street Journal has a conservative editorial position, but that its reportage is as left-leaning as any other paper of its size.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (Nmmyc)"
The WSJ editorial page has become a daily Nikki Haley advertisement. Of course the usual suspects (Karl Rove, Peggy Noonan) have long been pushing for a return to Failure Theater "conservatism", but lately the letters to the editor suspiciously parrot astroturf DNC/RNC talking points about fixing "chaos" and "divisiveness" by -- you guessed it -- funding billions for the defense of Ukraine's border and none for the defense of America's.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at January 29, 2024 11:06 AM (Nmmyc)"
The WSJ editorial page has become a daily Nikki Haley advertisement. Of course the usual suspects (Karl Rove, Peggy Noonan) have long been pushing for a return to Failure Theater "conservatism", but lately the letters to the editor suspiciously parrot astroturf DNC/RNC talking points about fixing "chaos" and "divisiveness" by -- you guessed it -- funding billions for the defense of Ukraine's border and none for the defense of America's.
Posted by: craig at January 29, 2024 03:49 PM (iblX1)
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The only thing a local newspaper has to offer that you can't get fifteen other places is local news. I am amazed by the number of papers that seem to miss that point. I do genealogy and regularly read articles that are 50, 75, even 100 years old. The emphasis was local, state, then national. It's reverse that today. I suspect it because a paper can subscribe to a national service for cheap.
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