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Army Witnesses: The J6 Tale Spun By Army Leaders Are "Irreconcilable" With the Facts

Which they say is how the Army euphemizes "lies" when it's shielding high-ranking officers.

The lies concern why the Army waited until after 5pm on January 6th to deploy the National Guard.

Col. Earl G. Matthews, the Army colonel who served as the senior legal advisor to Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commanding general of the District of Columbia Army National Guard during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol Hill protests, told RedState that Bryan A. Bonner, an investigative counsel for the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, acknowledged to him that the J6 narrative spun by senior Army leaders was flawed, and he would pursue the discrepancies.


"He told me that he knew that there were major problems with the DOD's Inspector General report and that he was going to recommend to the committee that they go back to DOD and figure out what went wrong," said Matthews, who, on Oct. 20, filed a 37-page Whistleblower Reprisal Complaint with the Pentagon's inspector general requesting the IG correct its report to bring it into alignment with events and conversations surrounding J6 that he witnessed.

Bonner, who is now regulatory counsel at Clear, told Matthews he would go to his higher-ups on the J6 Committee to resolve the inconsistencies, the colonel said.

"There was so much stuff that was wrong in that report, and so he told me he was

...

Bonner, a former Air Force JAG officer who wore a large Space Force lapel pin at the office, was assigned to the committee's Blue Team, which focused on the role of law enforcement and law enforcement officers in the pre-J6 planning and the J6 security failures.

...

Matthews said Bonner and other staffers would not say that Army leadership outright lied. "They called it our stories [were] irreconcilable, and there were discrepancies--to me, that was a euphemism for lying."


...

Bonner replied that he knew that Army witnesses were changing their stories and that he was going to recommend that the J6 Committee go back to the Army and resolve the contradictions and differing accounts.

More at the link.

Trust the government. In all of human history, corrupt bureaucrats have never, ever lied to frame their enemies or protect themselves from consequences. That's just Science (TM).

Related:

Thanks to andycanuck.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:30 PM




Comments

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1 I'll go fetch 'em.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 17, 2024 05:31 PM (qPw5n)

2 And just like star wars, this is gay and lame.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 17, 2024 05:32 PM (di6C2)

3 They needed to have that SJW woman haircut on the head of the Capitol Police to really set the effect.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 17, 2024 05:32 PM (di6C2)

4 Well HE'S going to get purged....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 17, 2024 05:32 PM (xcxpd)

5 well, rising to the bait

Posted by: yoeman at January 17, 2024 05:33 PM (j1QfB)

6 I want to see Mattis and Miley swing. Then I'll believe Trump is serious.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 17, 2024 05:33 PM (eYF7X)

7 Are the previous lies now inoperative?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 17, 2024 05:34 PM (aD39U)

8 And just like star wars, this is gay and lame.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 17, 2024 05:32 PM (di6C2)
......

That's pretty fucking gay and lame.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2024 05:34 PM (v0R5T)

9 4 Well HE'S going to get purged....
----
He's already been fired.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 05:35 PM (2yu8s)

10 Star Fleet reject says what?

Posted by: MSM at January 17, 2024 05:36 PM (Q4IgG)

11 They can never say "lie". It's always misspoke .. Except for Trump...Then it's lies

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2024 05:36 PM (n2vyf)

12 I want to see Mattis and Miley swing. Then I'll believe Trump is serious.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January

Please tell me that's not a euphemism.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2024 05:36 PM (kSHhA)

13 9 4 Well HE'S going to get purged....
----
He's already been fired.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 05:35 PM (2yu8s)

I think he means more in the 'Comrade, go check that hole- I think I left the shovel in there' kind of way.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 17, 2024 05:36 PM (di6C2)

14 He's already been fired.
----
The ex-Space Force commander in the video, that is.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 05:36 PM (2yu8s)

15 Trust the government. In all of human history, corrupt bureaucrats have never, ever lied to frame their enemies or protect themselves from consequences. That's just Science (TM).

There is a meme I'm seeing more and more people share.

It is a graph and on one axis it has knowledge of history and on the other trust in government. And as knowledge of history goes up trust goes down.

I see a lot of leftists getting pissy about it but the irony is under Shrub or Trump they accused the government of doing all sorts of horrible things. Yet Slow Joe gets installed and not only is the government now pure, but even imaging it not to be is hate speech

Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024 05:36 PM (ibTVg)

16 He's already been fired.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 05:35 PM (2yu8s)

Didn't they put some woke "woman" in ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2024 05:37 PM (n2vyf)

17 Watching snow melt > Getting a colonscopy > Watching any new Star Wars

Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024 05:37 PM (ibTVg)

18 Be all that you can be, a lying shitweasel.

Posted by: Beartooth at January 17, 2024 05:38 PM (5FnZt)

19 I'm wagering the MSM also has known about this since the original testimony and chose not to report on it.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 05:39 PM (/2Hy+)

20 My Marine can't get out fast enough.

Soon hopefully.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 17, 2024 05:39 PM (tAfvS)

21 My shocked face.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 05:39 PM (4I/2K)

Posted by: Don Black at January 17, 2024 05:39 PM (geLO8)

23 Space Commander for Chief of Staff !

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 05:39 PM (/2Hy+)

24 *what does the troll "do " exactly ??

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 05:40 PM (V13WU)

25 Star Fleet reject says what?
Posted by: MSM
---------
You have one shuttle crash and they come after your ass.

Posted by: Lt. Tom Paris at January 17, 2024 05:40 PM (2yu8s)

26 I like the reports that, to protect Our Democracy from Trump/Republicans/Americans, they are looking at removing civilian control over the military.

Not that that is already de facto.

They just want to formally enact it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 17, 2024 05:40 PM (PFILT)

27 13 9 4 Well HE'S going to get purged....
----
He's already been fired.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 05:35 PM (2yu8s)

I think he means more in the 'Comrade, go check that hole- I think I left the shovel in there' kind of way.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 17, 2024 05:36 PM (di6C2)

*nods*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 17, 2024 05:40 PM (xcxpd)

28 How fast the military has fallen.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 05:41 PM (R4t5M)

29 17 Heck, prepping for a colonoscopy is less odious than watching Woke Star Wars.

Posted by: callsign claymore at January 17, 2024 05:41 PM (JcnCJ)

30 28 How fast the military has fallen.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 05:41 PM (R4t5M)

Slowly, then all at once.

I blame DADT

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 17, 2024 05:41 PM (xcxpd)

31 Former Space Force Commander was tossed out for fighting Cultural Marxism

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (fwDg9)

32 28 How fast the military has fallen.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 05:41 PM (R4t5M)

My intent

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (n2vyf)

33 The Notion That I Won't Do 'That Thing' Is Irreconcilable With the Facts

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (991eG)

34 29 17 Heck, prepping for a colonoscopy is less odious than watching Woke Star Wars.
Posted by: callsign claymore at January 17, 2024 05:41 PM (JcnCJ)

I dunno, I found the colonoscopy easier to sit through.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (di6C2)

35
Who wants to learn a cool new word?!

Today's cool word is: inveigle

In-Vay-gul

It means sweet-talk, con, flatter, in order to deceive. Or something like that.

"She was inveigling him," describing the niece trying to get an inheritance from her old uncle.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (htEjy)

36 I don't like Mattis but he isn't a fraction of the treasonous fuck Miley is.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (/2Hy+)

37 This shit has been going on since the Clinton era. My Army lifer BIL told me to make sure my kids knew they had better options than joining the military. Full bird colonel warning me it was no place for white boys in 1998.

Posted by: DanMan at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (8uzBS)

38 Traitors, shitheels, and liars.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (R4t5M)

39 And then they wonder why they are having problems getting enough enlistments.

I'm proud of my past Service... I would not serve now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 05:43 PM (xaFKb)

40 J6 was every bit the op every op since the 2015 escalator ride was.
I'm beyond ashamed what fuck drips the bureaucracy have proven themselves beyond all possible doubt to be.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at January 17, 2024 05:44 PM (gxokI)

41 There was a time, not long ago, when I thought that if the ruling class ordered the military against the US population, the military would near universally turn on said ruling class.

Now, I'm not convinced that such an order wouldn't come from within the military, and I'm much less optimistic about the loyalties of the people actually holding the guns.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at January 17, 2024 05:44 PM (fKIdX)

42 They had an open anti American Marxist they let graduate from West Point instead of kicking his ass out. That he wasn't code redded by the other Cadets says something about them too.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 05:45 PM (/2Hy+)

43 Maybe... just maybe a national/state funded military isn't a good idea.

Posted by: MSM at January 17, 2024 05:45 PM (Q4IgG)

44 37 This shit has been going on since the Clinton era. My Army lifer BIL told me to make sure my kids knew they had better options than joining the military. Full bird colonel warning me it was no place for white boys in 1998.
Posted by: DanMan at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (8uzBS)

Started during Old Man Bush. He HATED the Macho Military culture, and loved the CIA college edumacated crowd. HE was the one who started tearing down traditions, and instituted 'Total Quality Leadership... which contradicted 5000 years of written military history and science.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 05:45 PM (xaFKb)

45 off sock

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2024 05:45 PM (Q4IgG)

46

You want the War of Independence
You will settle for the War Between the States
You will get Bosnia

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 17, 2024 05:46 PM (aD39U)

47 And then they wonder why they are having problems getting enough enlistments.

I'm proud of my past Service... I would not serve now.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 05:43 PM (xaFKb)

Exactly. Daughter is in the Army Reserves. She's done as soon as her time is up.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 05:46 PM (R4t5M)

48 I like the reports that, to protect Our Democracy from Trump/Republicans/Americans, they are looking at removing civilian control over the military.

Wait until the Secretary of Defense hears about this!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 05:47 PM (4I/2K)

49 I find it incredibly sad that I must now consider the US military as my potential enemy.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 17, 2024 05:47 PM (BdMk6)

50 What a fucking farce. I saw the whole "J6" thing streaming on my little old computer because it was available, mostly live at the time.

I saw velvet ropes and golden stanchions being misplaced several feet and abused by raucous visitors with a bloodlust in their hearts.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 17, 2024 05:47 PM (J3ryZ)

51
Inveigle

...from Anglo-Norman French envegler, alteration of Old French aveugler 'to blind,' from aveugle 'blind.'

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2024 05:47 PM (htEjy)

52 Started during Old Man Bush. He HATED the Macho Military culture, and loved the CIA college edumacated crowd. HE was the one who started tearing down traditions, and instituted 'Total Quality Leadership... which contradicted 5000 years of written military history and science.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 05:45 PM (xaFKb)

Eh. The problem the commies never quite seem to understand: They want a secret police that has vast power so they can use it against their enemies. However, they never quite realize that if the military or police get that powerful... what do they need the commies for?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 17, 2024 05:47 PM (di6C2)

53 Milley directly involved himself in slow walking the National Guard deployment to the Capitol. Some would argue he did it because it was all part of a pre-laid trap to entice 1/6 protesters into thinking they had free rein. I'm not so sure.

I think Milley is an idiot and he was worried about the "optics." I think he was concerned the deployment of the National Guard would signal the military supported Trump.

I have at least a couple of pieces of evidence to support this position. One, Milley was EXTREMELY stung by people's criticism of Trump walking over to the church and Milley standing by him. Milley apologized for this and I've read multiple accounts that indicate this was something Milley remarked on many times as a great regret of his.

Second, when the BLM riots were going on, one of Trump's advisors strongly advocated for the Guard to go in and shut down the riots. Milley reacted VERY strongly and told him to shut the fuck up and not to suggest the military shut down protests.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2024 05:47 PM (Odg76)

54 Started during Old Man Bush. He HATED the Macho Military culture, and loved the CIA college edumacated crowd. HE was the one who started tearing down traditions, and instituted 'Total Quality Leadership... which contradicted 5000 years of written military history and science.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 05:45 PM (xaFKb)

Bush did it when he was VP? It started in 1985.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 05:48 PM (/2Hy+)

55 It was Miley. He stopped the National Guard from deploying.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 05:48 PM (ZLI7S)

56 There is an old Army saying that goes back probably to the times of the Hittites. It is simply: When officers lie, soldiers die.

When I see evidence of fraudulent statements by any officer, much less senior ones, it is infuriating. They owe the American people the truth, and they are honor-bound to provide it.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024 05:49 PM (W/lyH)

57 What is the shelf life on Bonner ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 17, 2024 05:49 PM (NtVYv)

58 You know, it was just over four years ago I was so proud of my son's decision to become a Marine. I'm still proud of him. He was very happy as well.

My, how things have changed.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 17, 2024 05:49 PM (tAfvS)

59 Barky was the start of the Military downfall

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2024 05:49 PM (fwDg9)

60 >>Milley directly involved himself in slow walking the National Guard deployment to the Capitol. Some would argue he did it because it was all part of a pre-laid trap to entice 1/6 protesters into thinking they had free rein


I don't think you need to posit his knowledge of their plan. He was a reliable dupe and had proved so on numerous occasions.
All they had to do was count on him being himself and fucking things up just the way they needed.

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2024 05:50 PM (RVloE)

61 57 What is the shelf life on Bonner ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 17, 2024 05:49 PM (NtVYv)

Oh no. Is there another U2 album coming out?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 17, 2024 05:50 PM (di6C2)

62 The five sided puzzle palace has long outlived its usefulness.

Turn it into housing for the poor.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 05:50 PM (5gFhi)

63 The Hunter Laptop, Covid, and J6 conspiracies have all been dealt death blows on the site today. If tomorrow gives us the election and vaccines, what's left? The moon landing was shot in Hollywood?

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2024 05:50 PM (53IiO)

64 Unexpe… Oy, you know the drill.

Posted by: That Guy that always emboldens Unexpectedly!. . . at January 17, 2024 05:50 PM (4Winp)

65 If... (a big if) a Republican regains the White House the chain of command needs to be ditched.

And an new chain put in place.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2024 05:51 PM (Q4IgG)

66 Or not

Posted by: That Guy that always emboldens Unexpectedly!. . . at January 17, 2024 05:51 PM (4Winp)

67 >> Barky was the start of the Military downfall


It started way before Barky.

I am sure, on this Smart Military Blog, the Ghost of General Patton will be here in no time to confirm this.

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2024 05:51 PM (RVloE)

68 Has Bono stopped clapping yet?

Is Jimmy Carter still alive?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 05:51 PM (5gFhi)

69 Bush did it when he was VP? It started in 1985.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 05:48 PM (/2Hy+)

Hmmm... I did not see it hit the fleet until 1990...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 05:52 PM (xaFKb)

70 If... (a big if) a Republican regains the White House the chain of command needs to be ditched.

And an new chain put in place.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


Damn straight!

Posted by: Jayne Cobb at January 17, 2024 05:52 PM (4Winp)

71 Inveigle is a perfectly cromulent word.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 05:52 PM (991eG)

72 You want the War of Independence
You will settle for the War Between the States
You will get Bosnia
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 17, 2024 05:46 PM (aD39U)


Northern Ireland works too.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024 05:53 PM (W/lyH)

73 I like JSND's solution to this military problem.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 05:53 PM (R4t5M)

74 Barky was the start of the Military downfall
Posted by: Skip

From my perspective in the surface to surface missile nuke force, it was Bush the elder.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 17, 2024 05:53 PM (3CCua)

75 Christmas in Sarajevo dodging real snipers?

I'll pass.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 05:53 PM (5gFhi)

76 Maybe so Romeo but Jeff's experience ended in what was then the Communications Detail that was under Army oversite. He died of cancer in 2001 but was grateful to see Clinton gone.

That group I believe morphed into a Secret Service advance detail team, one of which became famous for getting drunk and banging whores in Puerto Rico when Hillary became Secretary of State.

Jeff said the military was weeding out competent whites to bring up the minority command.

Posted by: DanMan at January 17, 2024 05:54 PM (8uzBS)

77 >>>The Hunter Laptop, Covid, and J6 conspiracies have all been dealt death blows on the site today. If tomorrow gives us the election and vaccines, what's left? The moon landing was shot in Hollywood?

Posted by: t-bird

>We've got to get to the bottom of the Dr. Jill fishnet controversy. I want answers. And photos or it didn't happen.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 17, 2024 05:54 PM (J3ryZ)

78 For the Air Force lay the blame at the proper feet - that stupid ring knocker zoomie called McPeak.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 05:54 PM (5gFhi)

79 I really liked Commander Lohmeier's speech!

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at January 17, 2024 05:55 PM (MvF+J)

80 Christmas in Sarajevo dodging real snipers?

I'll pass.
Posted by: Anna Puma

When the banjos and fiddles start the music, i have a no bag limit ticket on progs. Thems the rules they wrote, thems the rules they get. Good. And. Hard.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 17, 2024 05:55 PM (3CCua)

81 t-bird

It's just a model.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 05:55 PM (5gFhi)

82 Inveigle

Often confused with embagel

as in: "I went to Katz' Deli and got embageled".

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 05:56 PM (991eG)

83 The Hunter Laptop, Covid, and J6 conspiracies have all been dealt death blows on the site today. If tomorrow gives us the election and vaccines, what's left? The moon landing was shot in Hollywood?

Don't be silly. They hired Kubrik to do it and he insisted they shoot on location to get the lighting right.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2024 05:56 PM (dZVON)

84 For the Air Force lay the blame at the proper feet - that stupid ring knocker zoomie called McPeak.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Ex-FiL hated that SOB.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 05:56 PM (R4t5M)

85 Balkanization

It's the answer.

For now.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2024 05:58 PM (Q4IgG)

86 From my perspective in the surface to surface missile nuke force, it was Bush the elder.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 17, 2024 05:53 PM (3CCua)

Seriously put me some knowledge . How so?

Don't ask don't tell was Clinton and they started allowing women to serve on combat ships in 1994.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 05:58 PM (/2Hy+)

87 Jeff said the military was weeding out competent whites to bring up the minority command.
Posted by: DanMan at January 17, 2024 05:54 PM (8uzBS)

I've noticed a WHOLE Metric Fuckton of Navy Commanders being relieved of command, for 'Loss of Confidence in Command' ability the last couple of years.

Weirdly, pictures of them almost invariably show a White Guy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 05:59 PM (xaFKb)

88 With reason. It was McPeak who decided to make TAC and SAC into one command, thus diluting the bomber force concentration on the nuclear mission.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 05:59 PM (5gFhi)

89
Speaking of Big Lies...

remember those "wild fires" in Canada last Summer?

Yeah, guess who just pleaded Guilty to setting 14 fires?
The "climate change" activist ARSONIST who set those "wild fires," that's who.

"Wild fires" are always ARSON. Always.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2024 06:00 PM (htEjy)

90 >>The colonel and Army lawyer challenging the Army's official narrative of the events and leadership decisions during the Capitol Hill protests on Jan. 6, 2021—a narrative relied upon by the Colorado Supreme Court when it struck President Donald J. Trump from the ballot — told RedState then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark A. Milley was the black hand operating outside his legal authority to delay the District of Columbia National Guard from responding the protests that day.

http://tinyurl.com/h385wyyj


Colonel Edwards claims the Army is retaliating against him for his testimony and has held up his recommended promotion to Brigadier General.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 06:01 PM (ZLI7S)

91 Has fat Lizard Cheney declared anyone questioning the J6 narrative is a traitor?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2024 06:01 PM (kSHhA)

92 The Peace Dividend draw downs, the early out options, and then Bubba Clinton upping the deployment tempo with a smaller force started this whole mess.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:02 PM (5gFhi)

93 91 Has fat Lizard Cheney declared anyone questioning the J6 narrative is a traitor?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2024 06:01 PM (kSHhA)

Many times

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 06:02 PM (n2vyf)

94 What is the shelf life on Bonner ?

********

Four hours. After that call your doctor.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 06:02 PM (991eG)

95
Inveigle

Often confused with embagel

as in: "I went to Katz' Deli and got embageled".
Posted by: Muldoon


Good observation.

I wonder if "finagle" originated as a bastardization of inveigle.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2024 06:02 PM (htEjy)

96 86 From my perspective in the surface to surface missile nuke force, it was Bush the elder.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 17, 2024 05:53 PM (3CCua)

Seriously put me some knowledge . How so?

Don't ask don't tell was Clinton and they started allowing women to serve on combat ships in 1994.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 05:58 PM (/2Hy+)

The files I'm finding on Total Quality Management show up during the HW Bush presidency. The idea was still an idea gaining traction in 1988.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 17, 2024 06:02 PM (eYoxG)

97 The Hunter Laptop, Covid, and J6 conspiracies have all been dealt death blows on the site today. If tomorrow gives us the election and vaccines, what's left? The moon landing was shot in Hollywood?
Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2024 05:50 PM (53IiO)

Im starting to think a few , rare bad actors in the media may not be telling us the truth

Posted by: LASue at January 17, 2024 06:02 PM (Ed8Zd)

98 Rest assured that we would tell the truth if it helped our case.

Posted by: The J6 Narrative at January 17, 2024 06:02 PM (aQGHO)

99 88 With reason. It was McPeak who decided to make TAC and SAC into one command, thus diluting the bomber force concentration on the nuclear mission.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 05:59 PM (5gFhi)

That was SO stupid. I remember shouting about it when it happened but I was out of ROTC by that point so...moot, for me at least.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 17, 2024 06:03 PM (xcxpd)

100 That's one weird disappearing troll

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2024 06:03 PM (n2vyf)

101 What is the shelf life on Bonner ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway
......

4 hours, after that call your doctor.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2024 06:04 PM (v0R5T)

102 Crap. Too slow.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2024 06:04 PM (v0R5T)

103 Posted by: LASue at January 17, 2024 06:02 PM (Ed8Zd)

Lol

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 17, 2024 06:05 PM (4U+62)

104 The rot started in earnest after WWII. The troops know when they're being lied to, and officers know they're lying to them unless they're complete psychos.

You can't push UN police actions, women in combat and leadership, political correctness, and now full on cultural marxism, without troops and officers learning that the truth doesn't matter anymore.

Posted by: callsign claymore at January 17, 2024 06:05 PM (JcnCJ)

105 Mark Andrew

Now imagine the millions of dollars spent to update all the Tech Orders, update unit designations, unit patches, and so on.

Then McPeak gave the Air Force the airline pilot dress blues also.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:06 PM (5gFhi)

106 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 17, 2024 06:02 PMTQM

It wasn't a creation of Bush though it continued to be spread during his term.

TQM Development in the United States by
Edwards Deming. The Navy branded the effort "Total Quality Management" in 1985. From the Navy, TQM spread throughout the US Federal Government, resulting in the following: The creation of the Malcolm Baldrige National Quality Award in August 1987..

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 06:06 PM (/2Hy+)

107 What’s the point of being a Marxist if you can’t make things weak and faggy?

Posted by: Hunter Biden at January 17, 2024 06:06 PM (E4bM2)

108 Go back and look at the history of the Russian revolution and civil war. The Tsarist bureaucracy and secret police either fled the country or killed. The same thing would happen here if the hardcore left took over. Those who served the uniparty would not like the outcome.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 17, 2024 06:07 PM (/Mbcg)

109 I wonder if "finagle" originated as a bastardization of inveigle.
Posted by: Soothsayer

******

Could be. Kind of turned inside out.

Wheedle is another good synonym.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 06:07 PM (991eG)

110 You want the War of Independence
You will settle for the War Between the States
You will get Bosnia
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 17, 2024 05:46 PM (aD39U)


You will get the Battle of the Network Stars.

Posted by: LASue at January 17, 2024 06:07 PM (Ed8Zd)

111 we need vindman to get to the bottom of this and the bucket of gravy

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 17, 2024 06:07 PM (B1FKF)

112 The army waited until after 5 PM so as not to send in armed troops with orders to shoot on sight.
The generals responsible for the delay prevented a Bonus Army massacre.
This Matthews guy calls Jan. 6 a "riot" and "insurrection". He is mad the Guard was not deployed for combat. That is why he testified to the J6 Committee, and what he is still pursuing.

Posted by: Sam at January 17, 2024 06:08 PM (ohyxL)

113 >>> I like the reports that, to protect Our Democracy from Trump/Republicans/Americans, they are looking at removing civilian control over the military.

Not that that is already de facto.

They just want to formally enact it.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator

Did not Obama promise us a civilian force more powerful than the military?
Oh, wait, he did not say they were to be opposing forces.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2024 06:08 PM (cOq4q)

114 what do they need the commies for?
Posted by: Aetius451AD


Canals don't dig themselves.

Posted by: DaveA at January 17, 2024 06:08 PM (FhXTo)

115
Wheedle?

Now you're just making up words.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (htEjy)

Posted by: Sec. Lloyd Austin III, SecDef at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (sAmhv)

117 105 Mark Andrew

Now imagine the millions of dollars spent to update all the Tech Orders, update unit designations, unit patches, and so on.

Then McPeak gave the Air Force the airline pilot dress blues also.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:06 PM (5gFhi)

I think McPeak was stupid in a MacNamara way, not evil like later attempts to 'socially engineer' change in the military though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (xcxpd)

118 We’re going from 20’s one day to 60’s the next and then back to 20’s by the weekend.

F’king climate change.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (E4bM2)

119 (beep)

Posted by: Sec. Lloyd Austin III, SecDef at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (sAmhv)

120 Seriously put me some knowledge . How so?

Don't ask don't tell was Clinton and they started allowing women to serve on combat ships in 1994.

Posted by: Titanium White

The asshole flag and E-9 assholes that used to do the nuke weapon tech and security inspections qere replaced with obvious inexperienced political commisar cocksuckers looking for gotcha issues that weren't issues to fail and remove competent commanders.

I backed an O-6 into a corner as an E-5(P) and pushed the fucking manual into his glasses to force him to read the fucking law on selective release. I got selected for the warhead custodial warrant officer program by the O-7 that witnessed that little altercation. My captain was shivering in the corner in fear.

I also told that O-7 that had the O-6 attempted that shit with a real situation, Id've introduced him to the exclusion area's lethal force ROE.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (3CCua)

121 Speaking of leadership that needs to be fired.

Crunchyroll, now owned by Sony, is going to have their awards ceremony in Tokyo, Japan on March 2nd. The host is Megan Thee Stallion, most infamously known for twerking with She-Hulk in that forgettable series.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (5gFhi)

122 You will get the Battle of the Network Stars.
Posted by: LASue at January 17, 2024 06:07 PM (Ed8Zd)

I wanna see Ed Asner drown while trying to paddle a canoe - Red Foreman

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (R4t5M)

123
On a long enough timeline Nancy Pelosi's body is exhumed and hung for treason relating to J6.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (nIvob)

124 106 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 17, 2024 06:02 PMTQM

It wasn't a creation of Bush though it continued to be spread during his term.

TQM Development in the United States by
Edwards Deming. The Navy branded the effort "Total Quality Management" in 1985. From the Navy, TQM spread throughout the US Federal Government, resulting in the following: The creation of the Malcolm Baldrige National Quality Award in August 1987..
Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 06:06 PM (/2Hy+)

People who were in the armed forces remember it as being HW Bush because the widespread implementation happened while he was in office. It's not necessarily the case he was particularly behind it.

Discussions/analysis of actual implementation and results treat it as a phenomenon of the early 1990s.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 17, 2024 06:10 PM (eYoxG)

125 Canals don't dig themselves.
Posted by: DaveA at January 17, 2024 06:08 PM (FhXTo)

I think you mean canals don’t fill themselves.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 17, 2024 06:10 PM (E4bM2)

126 i love those old movies that starred woolsey and wheedle

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 17, 2024 06:10 PM (B1FKF)

127 Again the FBI needs to become the Bureau of Federal Investigations.

We need a permanent agency that solely investigates bureaucrats, contractors, and employees of the fed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2024 06:11 PM (IG4Id)

128 Merrill McPeak was the Blue Falcon of all time. He was the Obama of the USAF with his fundamental transformation.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 17, 2024 06:11 PM (LaNzR)

129 Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 06:06 PM (/2Hy+)

Weird... did not see it when stationed in Hawaii in the late 80's. School command for 6 months, then Hit a Destroyer in 89.... none then... then 90 first time ever heard of it, when it hit the ship like a shit storm.

Then Desert Storm it went out the window until we got back.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:11 PM (xaFKb)

130 in russia canals fill you

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 17, 2024 06:11 PM (B1FKF)

131 It's a total clusterfuck, sir!

Posted by: Gunny Sgt Highway at January 17, 2024 06:11 PM (4I/2K)

132 Allowing for the possibility of dialectical inversion, I hope this is a good thing:

@PeterSweden7 1h
HUGE NEWS 🇸🇪
Sweden is SCRAPPING Agenda 2030 goals!
The new right-wing government is dismantling the work of the previous Socialist government.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2024 06:12 PM (IG4Id)

133 >>>Has fat Lizard Cheney declared anyone questioning the J6 narrative is a traitor?

Posted by: Northernlurker

>When you're half as fat as Meghan McCain and twice as ugly nobody cares, - Liz probably gets very little press these days.

I'd still bang fatty McCain because she has youth as a bastion in her fortress.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 17, 2024 06:13 PM (J3ryZ)

134 121 Speaking of leadership that needs to be fired.

Crunchyroll, now owned by Sony, is going to have their awards ceremony in Tokyo, Japan on March 2nd. The host is Megan Thee Stallion, most infamously known for twerking with She-Hulk in that forgettable series.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:09 PM (5gFhi)

I'll just assume Jujutsu Kaisen will win all the awards and skip the show.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 17, 2024 06:14 PM (xcxpd)

135 McPeak appears to be one of those people who don't even learn from personal experience.

As a Thunderbird pilot, his F-100D disintegrated around him. Then he joined the Misty FAC unit and survived that.

Which seems to have reinforced his egocentric idea of being invincible.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:14 PM (5gFhi)

136 The DoD likes to use their own word meanings:
Interdict instead of attack and (sometimes) destroy;
Terminate instead of kill (I think the prejudice is a CIA addition);
Irreconcilable with the facts for lying.

Any more?

Posted by: Ciampino - This army doesn't speak English... at January 17, 2024 06:15 PM (qfLjt)

137 The horrifying aspect of this is no one knows how deep the corruption in the military chain of command this goes. Trump could fire generals all day for a week and still not know if the next in the line of command wasn't just as bad as the others.

Perhaps appoint NCO's as the joint chiefs until the officer corp could be purged. But I guess NCO's might be just as corrupted.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 17, 2024 06:15 PM (BdMk6)

138
What is the shelf life on Bonner ?
********
Four hours. After that call your doctor.
Posted by: Muldoon


What about a Junior Bonner?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2024 06:15 PM (63Dwl)

139 Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 05:42 PM (991eG)

Did you hear about the severed head they found in an old deep freeze in Grand Junction?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 17, 2024 06:16 PM (nC+QA)

140 People who were in the armed forces remember it as being HW Bush because the widespread implementation happened while he was in office. It's not necessarily the case he was particularly behind it.

Discussions/analysis of actual implementation and results treat it as a phenomenon of the early 1990s.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 17, 2024 06:10 PM (eYoxG)

I think that's what I said so we're in agreement. The Navy was in process of implementing it as early as 1985 as I understand it. Things move very slow and then all of the sudden.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 06:16 PM (/2Hy+)

141 Mmm. Crunchyrolls.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 06:16 PM (2yu8s)

142 Why do we even need a Joint Chiefs? It was a World War II creation.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:16 PM (5gFhi)

143 Sweden is SCRAPPING Agenda 2030 goals!
The new right-wing government is dismantling the work of the previous Socialist government.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2024 06:12 PM (IG4Id)



Unless they exile the previous Socialist government to north of that Arctic Circle, they will be back, like a bad Krona.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 17, 2024 06:16 PM (aD39U)

144 C'mon now...relitigating the 2020 election and its unfortunate fallout isn't the path for Republican victory in 2024!

Posted by: GOPe at January 17, 2024 06:17 PM (ycI94)

145 Never watched that anime series.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:18 PM (5gFhi)

146 17 Watching snow melt > Getting a colonscopy > Watching any new Star Wars
Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024 05:37 PM (ibTVg)

-----------

I have a colonoscopy scheduled for early March. I'd be willing to test this hypothesis, but that means I'd have to watch some new Star Wars, so I'm afraid I'll have to pass.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at January 17, 2024 06:18 PM (Npnb7)

147
love those old movies that starred woolsey and wheedle

Hollywood Blvd had Bert Wheeler's House of Magic shop.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 17, 2024 06:19 PM (G8YqU)

148 >>> I'd still bang fatty McCain because she has youth as a bastion in her fortress.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 17, 2024 06:13 PM (J3ryZ)


Some mottes left in her bailey

Posted by: banana Dream at January 17, 2024 06:19 PM (Y6IkP)

149 Apparently the new Rey movie has been 'pushed back.'

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:19 PM (5gFhi)

150 I was hoping for 9-3 or even 10-2 next year but, the way Alabama is losing players to the portal, 7-5 might be more reasonable.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 17, 2024 06:19 PM (aD39U)

151 Perhaps appoint NCO's as the joint chiefs until the officer corp could be purged. But I guess NCO's might be just as corrupted.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 17, 2024 06:15 PM (BdMk6)

They purged the Senior NCO's a couple of decades ago.

God, I could imagine trying to put on a REAL Shellback, like when I first went through in the early 80's...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:19 PM (xaFKb)

152 It's nice to have a fan. But a draw the line at psychopaths !

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 06:19 PM (V13WU)

153 145 Never watched that anime series.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:18 PM (5gFhi)

If you have the time, give it a try. It's shonen battle anime (basically a superhero show almost) but it's more good than bad.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at January 17, 2024 06:20 PM (xcxpd)

154 149 Apparently the new Rey movie has been 'pushed back.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:19 PM (5gFhi)

So, is she depressed about it? making her a...

Blue Rey?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:20 PM (xaFKb)

155 136 Kinetics, instead of combat. Pre-dawn vertical insertion, instead of airborne drop. Withdrawal from Afghanistan, instead of shameful betrayal of our troops and allies.

Posted by: callsign claymore at January 17, 2024 06:21 PM (JcnCJ)

156 God, I could imagine trying to put on a REAL Shellback, like when I first went through in the early 80's...
Posted by: Romeo13

+1

Invest in popcorn futures if that glorious ass kicking took place.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 17, 2024 06:21 PM (3CCua)

157 Why does the Secretary of Defense need a Chief of Staff ? or is it a Chef of staff ???

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 06:21 PM (V13WU)

158
Way to go YouTube, deliver an advertisement to me in all Spanish during dinner hour. It's such a shame I don't have a thousand alternatives to you.

:: click ::

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 06:22 PM (nIvob)

159 colonoscopy scheduled

Pfft, they knock you out first for that.
Try the CT colon scan, wide awake, and using an instrument that if painted plaid would resemble a thermos

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 17, 2024 06:22 PM (G8YqU)

160 Anybody remember MOOTW (also called OOTW)? Related to HUMRO.

Nonsense stacked on nonsense.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 17, 2024 06:22 PM (LaNzR)

161 Pee. All that you can pee.
NNNNGHH

Posted by: Lloyd Austin at January 17, 2024 06:22 PM (v0R5T)

162 156 God, I could imagine trying to put on a REAL Shellback, like when I first went through in the early 80's...
Posted by: Romeo13

+1

Invest in popcorn futures if that glorious ass kicking took place.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 17, 2024 06:21 PM (3CCua)

Well... gotta admit... we could put that new Navy Pilot Miss America up.... as Wog Queen. That would work much better than the guys...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:23 PM (xaFKb)

163 The former mayors of New York City and Chicago, as well as one of the most-mentioned on AoSHQ journalists, none other than Brian "Sex Machine" Stelter, are recent additions to the faculty of Harvard University.

Just mentioning this for your consideration, should you be thinking of sending your kids to Harvard.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 17, 2024 06:23 PM (a3Q+t)

164 Well... gotta admit... we could put that new Navy Pilot Miss America up.... as Wog Queen. That would work much better than the guys...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:23 PM (xaFKb)

Aw shit... never mind, she's Air Farce.... /facepalm

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:23 PM (xaFKb)

165 In case you missed this bit of cheery news, this deep freeze has managed to kill many many electric vehicles.

It has been so cold they can not charge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:24 PM (5gFhi)

166 Vinman should have been up on treason charges

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2024 06:24 PM (fwDg9)

167 Pre-dawn vertical insertion

Missionary morning wood.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 17, 2024 06:24 PM (G8YqU)

168 I went to Katz's deli and got pastramied

Posted by: Jamaica at January 17, 2024 06:24 PM (Eeb9P)

169 Everything about J6, 2020 election, Covid, the economy, the border, etc., is irreconcilable with the facts. Our entire government is irreconcilable with reality.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at January 17, 2024 06:25 PM (iyVGU)

170 Be thankful LTC Bearclaw Vindaloomon never got reinstated as a Major General.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:25 PM (5gFhi)

171
*It has been so cold they can not charge.*

Oh, no! Anyway.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 17, 2024 06:25 PM (qiw2t)

172 Why do we even need a Joint Chiefs? It was a World War II creation.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Honestly, I think it was a post WWII creation, after the War Department became the Department of Defense.

It's kind of shiny nowhere kind of creation, as they don't really have command authority as the Chief of Staff of the Army, Air force, or the CNO of the Navy, or the Marine Commandant do.

And as good an idea as the Goldwater - Nichols reforms sounded when they came out, this has been turned into a self-immolating tool for the military, in my stupid civilian mind.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at January 17, 2024 06:25 PM (vcOmj)

173 Well... gotta admit... we could put that new Navy Pilot Miss America up.... as Wog Queen. That would work much better than the guys...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:23 PM (xaFKb)

Aw shit... never mind, she's Air Farce.... /facepalm
Posted by: Romeo13

Give her the guide on unit flag during daily PT... no one would fall out of the runs. Hell, I'd do drown proffing with combat boots a 40lb pack and my m16 again if she was at the pool in her bikini

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 17, 2024 06:26 PM (3CCua)

174 @132

>>The new right-wing government is dismantling the work of the previous Socialist government.

SWEEEEDENNN!!! COMMMEE ON DOWN!!!!

You're the next contestant on The Color Revolution Deep State of Fortune!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 17, 2024 06:26 PM (XV/Pl)

175 Maine pushes to become 'transgender safe haven' where minors can receive sex-change surgery and can't be returned to their parents - as outraged community leaders try to slow efforts

https://mol.im/a/12975029

Isn't that kidnapping?

Posted by: Ciampino - Kidnapping is an FBI responsibility right? at January 17, 2024 06:26 PM (qfLjt)

176 God, I could imagine trying to put on a REAL Shellback, like when I first went through in the early 80's...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:19 PM


Neptunus Rex would get things straightened out tout suite.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 17, 2024 06:26 PM (a3Q+t)

177 Oh... snap...

Milei, the new Prez down South just bitch slapped Davos at a speech there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:26 PM (xaFKb)

178 Our entire government is irreconcilable with reality.
Posted by: Russkilitlover

This is about me isn't it?

Posted by: Admiral Levine at January 17, 2024 06:27 PM (vwfbS)

179 In case you missed this bit of cheery news, this deep freeze has managed to kill many many electric vehicles.

It has been so cold they can not charge.


I wonder how many of these won't "wake up" when it gets warmer.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2024 06:27 PM (dZVON)

180 I wonder how many of these won't "wake up" when it gets warmer.

Probably as soon as Joey comes to his senses.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:28 PM (5gFhi)

181 The US Military has always had fools and incompetents where they shouldn't be and Generals trying to implement dumb stuff to make their mark but the basics of war fighting that required killing and blowing things up by tough men was always a constant. I think it started with Clinton to make the military something other than killing and blowing things up.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 06:28 PM (/2Hy+)

182 I'm still laughing about the crack power nap.

Posted by: Uncle Dufus at January 17, 2024 06:29 PM (DFED1)

183 Hahahaha, your battery is DEAD. That'll be 10,000 for a new one and 3 month wait

Posted by: Ben Had at January 17, 2024 06:29 PM (DIpmr)

184 FBI arrested a 56 year old tranny who was reportedly in the planning stage of a mass shooting. The dude's fake name was Elizabeth Ballesteros West.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2024 06:29 PM (Odg76)

185
Scoog is back... (dTc7/)

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 06:29 PM (nIvob)

186
God, I could imagine trying to put on a REAL Shellback, like when I first went through in the early 80's...
Posted by: Romeo13


There was a mini race riot on one of the ships in our group back in 1974 over the Shellback stuff. We were told we didn't have to participate if we didn't want to.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2024 06:30 PM (63Dwl)

187 Tornadoes rip through Florida as extreme cold and deluges of snow soon to cause chaos for millions of Americans until next week with a SECOND ice storm just hours away from rolling across the US

https://mol.im/a/12974049

Posted by: Ciampino - O no, more COLD at January 17, 2024 06:30 PM (qfLjt)

188 Wait... whut? Iran is shooting Missiles into Pakistan?

And celebrating it?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:30 PM (xaFKb)

189 I'll be laughing if Pakistan manages to nuke Tehran.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:31 PM (5gFhi)

190 It just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

Apparently, Maryland has been using illegal electronic voting machines in their elections since 2015. The whistleblower who wrote an email to election claiming they were using the illegal machines and they confirmed they were being removed. They were not. In fact, the illegal election voting machines were used in Maryland in 2020. The machines had attached modems that were connected to the internet.


The name of the whistleblower? Lynn Garland, wife of Attorney General Merrick Garland. The guy overseeing the prosecution of Donald Trump for claiming the 2020 election was rigged.

http://tinyurl.com/3ax658j8

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 06:31 PM (ZLI7S)

191 God, I could imagine trying to put on a REAL Shellback, like when I first went through in the early 80's...
Posted by: Romeo13

There was a mini race riot on one of the ships in our group back in 1974 over the Shellback stuff. We were told we didn't have to participate if we didn't want to.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2024 06:30 PM (63Dwl)

Yeah... it was... voluntary... but you'd never live down NOT partcipating.

But that was back when the US Navy was the biggest gang in the world... and the only ones besides the Soviets with Nuc Weps.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:32 PM (xaFKb)

192 FBI arrested a 56 year old tranny who was reportedly in the planning stage of a mass shooting. The dude's fake name was Elizabeth Ballesteros West.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2024 06:29 PM (Odg76)

The MSM will focus on the alleged White Supremacy connection and not the mentally ill tranny description.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 06:33 PM (/2Hy+)

193 Heres a show to avoid unless you like to hate watch things- Riviera on amazon prime A beautiful setting and some decent clothes but apparently was written by aliens who learned about humans from telenovelas and Richie Rich comics

Posted by: LASue at January 17, 2024 06:33 PM (Ed8Zd)

194 I never made it past three Star Wars installments. Leia just wasn't showing enough skin like those magnificent bimbos in Flash Gordon.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 17, 2024 06:34 PM (J3ryZ)

195 #169 sums it up quite accurately, imho.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at January 17, 2024 06:34 PM (WsTvr)

196 Maine pushes to become 'transgender safe haven' where minors can receive sex-change surgery and can't be returned to their parents - as outraged community leaders try to slow efforts

https://mol.im/a/12975029

Isn't that kidnapping?
Posted by: Ciampino - Kidnapping is an FBI responsibility right? at January 17, 2024 06:26 PM (qfLjt)

That's demonic.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2024 06:34 PM (kSHhA)

197 (apobv)

Well bless your heart

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:34 PM (5gFhi)

198 189 I'll be laughing if Pakistan manages to nuke Tehran.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:31 PM (5gFhi)

Part of Islamic myth says that some 'Holy Cities' will be destroyed by fire before the coming of the final teacher.

Some in Iran, blatantly state they are trying to create the conditions, so he will come... because then they think Islam wins (note, some of us believe this is the only reason they declared Jerusalem a Holy City... so it can be one of those destroyed by fire).

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 06:34 PM (xaFKb)

199 138
What is the shelf life on Bonner ?
********
Four hours. After that call your doctor.
Posted by: Muldoon

What about a Junior Bonner?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2024 06:15 PM (63Dwl)
----
Well, Junior Booners are all the rage with good-looking female teachers ......

Posted by: Ciampino - where were these creatures in my day? at January 17, 2024 06:35 PM (qfLjt)

200
The name of the whistleblower? Lynn Garland, wife of Attorney General Merrick Garland.

I've gotta stop shortening the time before cocktail hour because everything is now insanity.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 06:36 PM (nIvob)

201 The name of the whistleblower? Lynn Garland, wife of Attorney General Merrick Garland. The guy overseeing the prosecution of Donald Trump for claiming the 2020 election was rigged.

http://tinyurl.com/3ax658j8
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 06:31 PM (ZLI7S)

!!!!!!!

Posted by: LASue at January 17, 2024 06:36 PM (Ed8Zd)

202 Hahahaha, your battery is DEAD. That'll be 10,000 for a new one and 3 month wait

Must be an off brand. Tesla charges around $26K last time I heard, and Hyundai's Ioniq battery costs more than the car did new.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2024 06:36 PM (dZVON)

203 The day gets weirder and weirder.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 06:37 PM (R4t5M)

204 The name of the whistleblower? Lynn Garland, wife of Attorney General Merrick Garland. The guy overseeing the prosecution of Donald Trump for claiming the 2020 election was rigged.

http://tinyurl.com/3ax658j8
Posted by: JackStraw

Should not Garland recuse, less his bias be self-evident in not charging his own wife with 'insurrection'.

...in the unlikely event Trump is allowed to win he needs but one special, very special, prosecutor to charge both with seditious conspiracy and lock them away indefineitly.

Suck it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2024 06:37 PM (cOq4q)

205 140
I think that's what I said so we're in agreement. The Navy was in process of implementing it as early as 1985 as I understand it. Things move very slow and then all of the sudden.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 06:16 PM (/2Hy+)
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For us non-military types, what are we talking about?

Posted by: Ciampino - where were these creatures in my day?? at January 17, 2024 06:37 PM (qfLjt)

206 Those in Maine pushing that are also totes okay with parents having the authority to approve what their 16 year old downloads I bet.

Nothing says amoral inconsistency like saying "I'm a Democrat."

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:38 PM (5gFhi)

207 Matthews said Bonner and other staffers would not say that Army leadership outright lied. "They called it our stories [were] irreconcilable, and there were discrepancies--to me, that was a euphemism for lying."

So nothing was real on J6.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 17, 2024 06:38 PM (lwOKI)

208 LOL, JS!

also, wow

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at January 17, 2024 06:38 PM (WsTvr)

209 New 'Quick Tips' thread up. NOOD

Posted by: gdgm+ at January 17, 2024 06:38 PM (w0+ZH)

210 Must be an off brand. Tesla charges around $26K last time I heard, and Hyundai's Ioniq battery costs more than the car did new.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310

Hahahahaha, selling boat anchors at a loss sounds like a *great* business decision.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at January 17, 2024 06:38 PM (vwfbS)

211 Well at least the Trannies won't be freezing their nuts off in Maine, they will be gone already

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2024 06:39 PM (fwDg9)

212 (note, some of us believe this is the only reason they declared Jerusalem a Holy City... so it can be one of those destroyed by fire).
Posted by: Romeo13

Meh. If there are Jews there, it's on the list.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 17, 2024 06:40 PM (KAi1n)

213 183 Hahahaha, your battery is DEAD. That'll be 10,000 for a new one and 3 month wait

10,000? cheap. heard about an electric car that took a bad bounce on a speedbump and bent the battery; quoted 60,000 for a new one.

Posted by: anachronda at January 17, 2024 06:40 PM (v3pYe)

214
I'll be laughing if Pakistan manages to nuke Tehran.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 17, 2024 06:31 PM


My Bingo Card has Iran testing a nuke on the continental divide inside Iran and killing 2/3rds of the population with the resulting 9.9 quake.

No Pakistan card yet.

:: Considers ::

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 06:40 PM (nIvob)

215 >>>What about a Junior Bonner?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2024 06:15 PM (63Dwl)
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Well, Junior Booners are all the rage with good-looking female teachers ......

Posted by: Ciampino - where were these creatures in my day?

>Wait, I'm confused. Bonners, Booners, is this some sort of Gen-X code? I can't be woke without some social media influencer knowledge.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 17, 2024 06:41 PM (J3ryZ)

216 Matthews said Bonner and other staffers would not say that Army leadership outright lied. "They called it our stories [were] irreconcilable, and there were discrepancies--to me, that was a euphemism for lying."

So nothing was real on J6.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 17, 2024 06:38 PM (lwOKI)

The plan to punish Trump and his supporters was very real. This was a deliberately orchestrated op.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 17, 2024 06:46 PM (BdMk6)

217 194 I never made it past three Star Wars installments. Leia just wasn't showing enough skin like those magnificent bimbos in Flash Gordon.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 17, 2024 06:34 PM (J3ryZ)
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You know there's a 'Flesh Gordon' movie ......

Posted by: Ciampino - I haven't seen it at January 17, 2024 06:52 PM (qfLjt)

218 Posted by: Ciampino - where were these creatures in my day?? at January 17, 2024 06:37 PM (qfLjt)

Total Quantity Management system

Posted by: Titanium White at January 17, 2024 06:54 PM (/2Hy+)

219 Romeo13 at January 17, 2024 05:45 PM (xaFKb)

Ah yes, TQL, violated every unity of command principle ever taught.

Posted by: Muthaucker at January 17, 2024 08:14 PM (5lhe7)

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