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Botticelli Calumny1.jpg

Calumny of Apelles
Alessandro di Mariano di Vanni Filipepi (Sandro Botticelli)

[Hat Tip: Sharon (willow's apprentice)]

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 First !

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:31 AM (J2vNu)

2 art

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 17, 2024 09:31 AM (lwOKI)

3 Can't go wrong with a Botticelli.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:31 AM (V13WU)

4 excuse me
I arted on the other thread

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 17, 2024 09:31 AM (lwOKI)

5 Love this work. There's a lot going on.

Would definitely hang.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:31 AM (SAX5G)

6 Well, whaddaya know!

Okay. Who was Apelles, and why are all these barefoot women running around?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:31 AM (J2vNu)

7 Beautiful. I don't know what any of it means but it sure is pretty.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at January 17, 2024 09:32 AM (SfhV1)

8 A lot going on here. Looks like a scrum of Swifties fighting for concert tickets

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 17, 2024 09:32 AM (/Mbcg)

9 So what is the story here? Some folks refusing to repay their student loans?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:32 AM (SAX5G)

10 Calumny? Er, what?

Posted by: dantesed at January 17, 2024 09:33 AM (88xKn)

11 What's going on here!?!

Posted by: BignJames at January 17, 2024 09:33 AM (AwYPR)

12 'It stinks.'
'John!'
'Well, the man's no Botticelli.'
'and the subject's no Venus.'

Posted by: 1776 at January 17, 2024 09:33 AM (zZu0s)

13 and why are all these barefoot women running around?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Don't tell me your complaining, Wolfus. CBD decided to do you a solid.

Posted by: The Wall Between Western Sahara and Morocco at January 17, 2024 09:34 AM (9yWhg)

14 It would be interesting to know the story this is illustrating.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 17, 2024 09:34 AM (CHHv1)

15 Naked chic for no apparent reason... Art!

Posted by: Bourbon and Cigar at January 17, 2024 09:34 AM (z9ms9)

16 The two figures in black & white are visually arresting. Everywhere else, the painting has bright colors, nudes, pastel and neutral colors, a clear sky and a calm body of water; but here are these two dark crows leaping out at your eye.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:34 AM (J2vNu)

17 Beautiful painting. So much going on it’s hard to take in. Absolutely would hang. Thanks CBD.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (gxRWI)

18 Botticelli's Venus on the far left.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (9yWhg)

19 Way too much allegory for the likes of me.

Posted by: huerfano at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (Q4KYm)

20 has tit

is art

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (sJHOI)

21 and why are all these barefoot women running around?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
Don't tell me your complaining, Wolfus. CBD decided to do you a solid.
Posted by: The Wall Between Western Sahara and Morocco at January 17, 2024


***
Not a complaint at all, Wall. Just puzzled at the wealth of detail!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (J2vNu)

22 Lots of drama. It's like an entire season of a soap opera in one shot.

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (e1pHV)

23 Wikipedia sez: "The figures are either personifications of vices or virtues, or in the case of the king and victim, of the roles of the powerful and the powerless. From left to right, they represent (with alternative names): Truth, nude and pointing upwards to Heaven; Repentance in black; Perfidy (Conspiracy) in red and yellow, over the innocent half-naked victim on the floor, who is being pulled forward by the hair by Calumny (Slander), in white and blue and holding a flaming torch. Fraud, behind, arranges Calumny's hair. Rancour (Envy), a bearded and hooded man in black, holds his hand towards the king's eyes to obscure their view."

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (MvF+J)

24 I don't understand the theme of the painting, but as an exercise in skill, it's glorious. Why is Venus out of her half shell and standing around?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (CsUN+)

25 What's going on the right side? Looks like two guys trying to reach out to each other.

Posted by: dantesed at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (88xKn)

26 10 Calumny? Er, what?
Posted by: dantesed at January 17, 2024 09:33 AM (88xKn)

looked it up slander and the nude is truth

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (n2vyf)

27 It's beautiful, but jumbled.

It is like a collection of separate figures (like things he had in a sketch book) that he collected together in one artwork on a generic background. Like those old k-tel record compilations.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM (zZu0s)

28 Botticelli - Isn't he that blind Italian tenor?

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at January 17, 2024 09:36 AM (SfhV1)

29 busy

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 09:36 AM (ZLI7S)

30 Wikipedia sez: "The figures are either personifications of vices or virtues, or in the case of the king and victim, of the roles of the powerful and the powerless. From left to right, they represent (with alternative names): Truth, nude and pointing upwards to Heaven; Repentance in black; Perfidy (Conspiracy) in red and yellow, over the innocent half-naked victim on the floor, who is being pulled forward by the hair by Calumny (Slander), in white and blue and holding a flaming torch. Fraud, behind, arranges Calumny's hair. Rancour (Envy), a bearded and hooded man in black, holds his hand towards the king's eyes to obscure their view."

So, a typical Trump vs. DeSantis thread.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 09:36 AM (CsUN+)

31 When life hands you apelles, make apellesauce.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at January 17, 2024 09:37 AM (wu87C)

32 Lots of drama. It's like an entire season of a soap opera in one shot.
Posted by: t-bird at January


Which one is Nice Bod Brooke?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:37 AM (9yWhg)

33 Venus is just standing there.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 17, 2024 09:37 AM (NpAcC)

34 Apelles was a renowned painter of antiquity, a Greek. The wiki page on this painting says, "The figures are either personifications of vices or virtues, or in the case of the king and victim, of the roles of the powerful and the powerless."

http://tinyurl.com/3njw5h9j

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:38 AM (J2vNu)

35 Alessandro di Mariano di Vanni Filipepi

********

If he played in the NFL it would be:

Alessandro di Mariano di Vanni Filipepi IV

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 09:38 AM (991eG)

36 There's a lot of columny going on in the background, as well.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:38 AM (9yWhg)

37 Alessandro di Mariano di Vanni Filipepi IV, Jr

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 09:38 AM (991eG)

38 Venus is just standing there.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 17, 2024


***
"Is that guy a Viking?"

"No, he's just a-standing there."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:38 AM (J2vNu)

39 Cruel calumny is one of the things we do best around here.

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at January 17, 2024 09:39 AM (MvF+J)

40 Sure as hell beats a nekkid lardass on an ottoman.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 17, 2024 09:39 AM (pohLc)

41 this art has quite a backstory
would hang, in the great hall of my desert fortress

Posted by: Don Black at January 17, 2024 09:39 AM (geLO8)

42 37 Alessandro di Mariano di Vanni Filipepi IV, Jr
Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 09:38 AM (991eG)

MISTER!

also, 'esquire.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 09:39 AM (zZu0s)

43 Boobs, but just barely.

Posted by: From about that Time at January 17, 2024 09:39 AM (4780s)

44 Botticelli - Isn't he that blind Italian tenor?
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at January 17, 2024


***
H'es the third tenor, the one everybody forgets!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:39 AM (J2vNu)

45 What in the wide, wide world of sports is a-going on here?

Posted by: Taggart at January 17, 2024 09:40 AM (4I/2K)

46
One description of what in tarnation is going on here is provided at this link --

https://www.dailyartmagazine.com/botticellis-final-painting/

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:40 AM (xG4kz)

47 Some one dissing on apples? And that's the interpretation?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2024 09:40 AM (Q4IgG)

48 amazing amount of detail
that Bottle Jelly guy sure could draw good

Posted by: Don Black at January 17, 2024 09:40 AM (geLO8)

49 Apparently Botticelli based this "on the description of a lost ancient painting by Apelles[.]"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:41 AM (J2vNu)

50 Apelles was an ancient Greek painter. This is supposed to be a copy of one of his paintings. A good rule of thumb is that bare-footed women (sometimes nude, sometimes not) are allegories. From wiki: http://tinyurl.com/33k96kj2

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2024 09:41 AM (hR8f8)

51 What's going on the right side? Looks like two guys trying to reach out to each other.
Posted by: dantesed


They're hurling accusations at one another. A foreshadowing of the recent dustup between Sponge and Ace.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:41 AM (9yWhg)

52 Venus is just standing there.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 17, 2024 09:37 AM (NpAcC)

I saw her!

The way she looks is way beyond compare.

Posted by: Sir Paul McCartney at January 17, 2024 09:41 AM (4I/2K)

53 Was gonna boil up some Botticelli for lunch, but all I have is Rotelle#124 or Bow-Ties#66.

Posted by: Ronzoni-Sono Buoni! at January 17, 2024 09:41 AM (V5BDR)

54 Where is Venus' clamshell?

IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:42 AM (SAX5G)

55
Calumny is the woman clad in blue and white who is yanking on the sitting man's hair.

You cannot spell calumny without "alum"; she is astringent.

I may have made up that last part.

Truth is the nekkid woman at left.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:42 AM (xG4kz)

56 1494-95. This thing is so sharp and so colorful and yet the paint is over 500 years old?! It's hard to imagine anything lasting that long, in pristine condition, let alone a painting.

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2024 09:42 AM (fbFl3)

57 Where is this paining ? In Florence ?

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:42 AM (V13WU)

58 40 Sure as hell beats a nekkid lardass on an ottoman.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Speak for yourself!

Posted by: No One Ever at January 17, 2024 09:42 AM (JCZqz)

59 Apelles was 4th Century BC. He may well have produced a portrait of Alexander the Great. (Wonder if AtG looked more like the young William Shatner, or more like Colin Farrell?)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:42 AM (J2vNu)

60 Alternate....Trump and the media

Posted by: BignJames at January 17, 2024 09:42 AM (AwYPR)

61 A good rule of thumb is that bare-footed women (sometimes nude, sometimes not) are allegories.



Wolfus Aurelius hardest hit.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:42 AM (9yWhg)

62 Artist: Sandro Botticelli
Year: 1494–95
Medium: Tempera on panel
Dimensions: 62 cm × 91 cm (24 in × 36 in)
Location: Uffizi, Florence

Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 09:43 AM (RHGPo)

63 Botticelli clam girl makes a return appearance.

Posted by: Dunno at January 17, 2024 09:43 AM (YYJKj)

64 Where is Venus' clamshell?


Well, her fartclam is on the other side.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:43 AM (9yWhg)

65 56 1494-95. This thing is so sharp and so colorful and yet the paint is over 500 years old?! It's hard to imagine anything lasting that long, in pristine condition, let alone a painting.
Posted by: t-bird

Well, if Trump wins this November, my schadenboner may...

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 17, 2024 09:43 AM (JCZqz)

66 Whoa - a lot of calumny going on here.

This was obviously before the era of shoes, which was ushered in by the Dutch. Whom I cannot tolerate.

Posted by: fly gal at January 17, 2024 09:44 AM (83C9A)

67 Was gonna boil up some Botticelli for lunch, but all I have is Rotelle#124 or Bow-Ties#66.
Posted by: Ronzoni-Sono Buoni!

Never forget - Pastina is good for all ailments!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:44 AM (SAX5G)

68 Truth is the nekkid woman at left.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:42 AM (xG4kz)

She's mighty, mighty,
Lettin' it all hang out.
Mm! Mm! Mm!

Posted by: Commodores at January 17, 2024 09:44 AM (4I/2K)

69
None of Apelles' works now exist

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:44 AM (xG4kz)

70 The girl on the left with bright hair, looks like his "Venus", aka his girlfriend.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:44 AM (V13WU)

71 I'm always getting Botticelli confused with Donatello.

Reminder: Botticelli painted The Birth of Venus and La Primavera.

Donatello was the sculptor and Ninja Turtle.

Top 100, maybe?

Posted by: Pete in Texas at January 17, 2024 09:44 AM (b8LUX)

72 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 09:44 AM (Zz0t1)

73 I had to look this up.

My classics education is not as thorough as it should have been.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 09:45 AM (Q0kLU)

74 Ancient titties.

Acceptable.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 09:45 AM (Zz0t1)

75 'It stinks.'
'John!' "As ever, the soul of tact."
'Well, the man's no Botticelli.'
'and the subject's no Venus.'

Posted by: 1776 at January 17, 2024 09:33 AM (zZu0s)

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 09:46 AM (Q0kLU)

76 So the naked or bare truth.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 09:46 AM (2yu8s)

77 Ancient titties.

Acceptable.
Posted by: Sponge

One simply has to reach lower.


What?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:46 AM (SAX5G)

78 Fascinating painting.

Posted by: Tuna at January 17, 2024 09:46 AM (oaGWv)

79
One simply has to reach lower.


What?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:46 AM (SAX5G)



"We've got bush!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 09:47 AM (Zz0t1)

80 There's a lot of columny going on in the background, as well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


********

Polydactylus Gives It Three Thumbs Up - a limerick

I saw some ancient art at the museum
They had it rough, I wouldn't want to be 'em
They'd pit a lion or a gator
'gainst a Roman gladiator
Don't hate me, I just column like I see 'em.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 09:47 AM (991eG)

81 More Grid Trouble: Tennessee Valley Authority Asks Customers To Conserve Power Amid Cold Blast

"However, we do anticipate the highest peak demand for electricity in TVA history..."

Currently, it's estimated that around 1 percent of the 250 million cars, SUVs, and light-duty trucks on American roads are electric.

Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 09:47 AM (RHGPo)

82 Seems to be a party going on here
Nicely detailed

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2024 09:47 AM (EHOM+)

83 I had to look this up.

My classics education is not as thorough as it should have been.


I even had to look up tempera.

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2024 09:47 AM (fbFl3)

84 Disproportionate amount of gingers. Me likey.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:47 AM (9yWhg)

85 Where is Venus' clamshell?


The Adventures of Baron Munchausen had a lot of issues, but they way they introduced Venus was pretty good I think. https://youtu.be/1fbD0btGvBE

Link goes to youtube and was from a PG movie but she is naked if covered.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024 09:47 AM (ibTVg)

86
69
None of Apelles' works now exist

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)


I ought to have added, "... except for some Fifth Century BC matchbook covers scattered hither and yon around the eastern Mediterranean region for a 'Learn to Draw' course."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:47 AM (xG4kz)

87 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 09:46 AM (Q0kLU)

Dammit! You are right, I forgot the 'soul of tact'. Touché, good sir.

Good word play in that... play/movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 09:48 AM (zZu0s)

88 Primary colors! Well done !

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:48 AM (V13WU)

89 Does that translate to 'A Bunch of Apples'?

Posted by: frodo at January 17, 2024 09:48 AM (IsUl3)

90 Scene from an Iowa Democrat Caucus?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 09:49 AM (4I/2K)

91
I even had to look up tempera.

Posted by: t-bird


You can find it on the menu at many Japanese restaurants.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:49 AM (xG4kz)

92 Chinese launch went well. Noticed no clouds of frozen water vapor so may I presume the Chinese don't use LOX or LH? Anyone know what fuels they use?

Posted by: Ciampino - ROCKET SCIENCE today done Q1 at January 17, 2024 09:49 AM (qfLjt)

93 77 Ancient titties.
Acceptable.
Posted by: Sponge

One simply has to reach lower.

What?
Posted by: Tonypet

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 17, 2024 09:49 AM (JCZqz)

94 I had to look this up.

My classics education is not as thorough as it should have been.


I honestly wish I had taken more classics courses while in school. Hell, even my Nonna, whom never finished HS, could quote from Dante, Virgil, Homer, etc.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:49 AM (SAX5G)

95 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


"FRANKLIN!"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:49 AM (9yWhg)

96 Impressive work. Incredible detail especially with respect to the arched columns.

Posted by: Doof at January 17, 2024 09:50 AM (eNASR)

97 Location: Uffizi, Florence
Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 09:43 AM (RHGPo)

Gesundheidt !

Posted by: JT at January 17, 2024 09:50 AM (T4tVD)

98 Note the nice detail on the lower right of a depiction of a centaur family. It's not just a male and female, but their young as well -- not something I'd ever seen before. The male has been out hunting and has brought his kill back to Mrs. Nessus and the colt-children.

The way she is looking up suggests she is saying, "And that's *all* you managed to kill? Are we supposed to live on scraps, then? Boy, did I make a mistake.
Chiron wanted to marry me. He's a doctor. But nooo, I chose Mister Great Hunter!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:50 AM (J2vNu)

99 Good word play in that... play/movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


Absolute-Lee!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:50 AM (9yWhg)

100 77 Ancient titties.
Acceptable.
Posted by: Sponge

One simply has to reach lower.

What?
Posted by: Tonypet

This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 17, 2024 09:49 AM (JCZqz)

Swing low, sweet mamm-ary

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 09:50 AM (4I/2K)

101 I even had to look up tempera.

Posted by: t-bird

You can find it on the menu at many Japanese restaurants.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot:

There's a Tempura Women's Shelter nearby.

It's for lightly battered women.

Posted by: Bill Murray's lounge singer at January 17, 2024 09:50 AM (SAX5G)

102
Based on the "bare feet" rule, everyone in the painting is an allegory?

Allegorists' medical practices had to be booming in those times.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:51 AM (xG4kz)

103 Absolute-Lee!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:50 AM (9yWhg)

But I absolutely HATE that fucking song.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 09:51 AM (zZu0s)

104 I suspect there weren't that many redheads in ancient greece.

Yes they had celtic neighbors and people like the Macedonians had some celtic blood in them but...still probably not many.

I had a blonde friend that traveled to China and she mentioned that people openly stared at her for it...I wonder if being a redhead in say Athens back in the day would lead to the same attention?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024 09:51 AM (ibTVg)

105 Seems to be a party going on here
Nicely detailed
Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2024


***
A celebration to last throughout the year

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:51 AM (J2vNu)

106 In works like this, the details can also be part of the story. The statues in the niches and the reliefs along the floorboards should also add to the message. The statues might be examples of justice. The figure on the extreme right -- the woman with the severed head -- might be Judith, symbolizing victory over oppression, maybe? Meanwhile, the reliefs might be counter-examples. I see in one a group of centaurs, which were symbols of barbarity in ancient Greece. There's a lot of violent images in the reliefs while the statues look more noble.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2024 09:51 AM (hR8f8)

107 This one is in the Uffizi! I've seen it there, and loved it. Thank you for bringing back the memory Sharon (and CBD).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 17, 2024 09:51 AM (gK0k3)

108 Impressive work. Incredible detail especially with respect to the arched columns.
Posted by: Doof

The depictions of the carved shells is first-rate also.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:51 AM (SAX5G)

109 But I absolutely HATE that fucking song.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


Agreed.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:52 AM (9yWhg)

110 I suspect there weren't that many redheads in ancient greece.

Yes they had celtic neighbors and people like the Macedonians had some celtic blood in them but...still probably not many.

I had a blonde friend that traveled to China and she mentioned that people openly stared at her for it...I wonder if being a redhead in say Athens back in the day would lead to the same attention?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024


***
Seems to me I've read somewhere that the ancient Greek thought redheaded people were destined to become vampires after they died. Or were werewolves while alive. Or maybe both.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 09:52 AM (J2vNu)

111 Never forget - Pastina is good for all ailments!
Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:44 AM (SAX5G)

Pastina is Italian comfort food, though the Italians I know are comfortable enough already.

Posted by: It's All Gravy at January 17, 2024 09:53 AM (V5BDR)

112 Hell, even my Nonna, whom never finished HS, could quote from Dante, Virgil, Homer, etc.

===

wow; i guess in them old days if one had even an 8 year formal education that would set them up with greek, latin, math, reading and writing

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:53 AM (V13WU)

113 "FRANKLIN!"
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:49 AM (9yWhg)


Lord, your voice is piercing, John!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 09:53 AM (Q0kLU)

114 104 I suspect there weren't that many redheads in ancient greece.

Yes they had celtic neighbors and people like the Macedonians had some celtic blood in them but...still probably not many.

I had a blonde friend that traveled to China and she mentioned that people openly stared at her for it...I wonder if being a redhead in say Athens back in the day would lead to the same attention?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024 09:51 AM (ibTVg)

The Thracians were described as "blue-eyed and red-haired". Historical Thrace overlaps parts of modern Greece, modern Bulgaria, and Istanbul.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 17, 2024 09:53 AM (eYoxG)

115 Impressive work. Incredible detail especially with respect to the arched columns.
Posted by: Doof


We're still awaiting an official pronouncement on the quality of the foot arches.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:53 AM (9yWhg)

116 BlackRock Chief Warns Davos Elites: Trump Victory Poses ‘Fundamental’ Challenge to Europe

... end of their free ride on defense

I thought the EU wanted it's own military

Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 09:54 AM (RHGPo)

117
This one is in the Uffizi! I've seen it there, and loved it.


Like all art works there, it is lightly carbonated, with just a hint of lemon.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:54 AM (xG4kz)

118 Seems to me I've read somewhere that the ancient Greek thought redheaded people were destined to become vampires after they died. Or were werewolves while alive. Or maybe both.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

So, just like today, ammirite?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 09:54 AM (SAX5G)

119 Because every Wednesday morning needs an ear worm.



Calumny, lumny, lumny
I've got love in my tumny
And I feel like a-loving yooooooou!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 09:54 AM (991eG)

120 Florence is a treasure chest of ...well, treasures. every palazzo, every church has masterpieces

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:55 AM (V13WU)

121 Jeepers. What a circus

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 17, 2024 09:55 AM (hcgGK)

122 the market been tanking since the Davos confab started

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:55 AM (V13WU)

123 What a circus
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 17, 2024 09:55 AM (hcgGK)


Oh, what a show!
Argentina has gone to town
Over the death of an actress called Eva Peron. . .

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 09:56 AM (Q0kLU)

124 Florence is a treasure chest



Yeah, but she could never get George Jefferson to show any interest in playing with her boobs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 09:56 AM (9yWhg)

125 the market been tanking since the Davos confab started
Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:55 AM (V13WU)



Davos should be tactically nuked during this time of year.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 09:56 AM (Zz0t1)

126
the market been tanking since the Davos confab started

Posted by: runner


One precisely placed nuke would right that ship, and pronto!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:57 AM (xG4kz)

127 Perhaps the people of Renaissance Italy knew the story behind this painting but I had to look it up. Each figure represents a quality or human condition involved in the false accusation of the victim. (Who knew the 'me too' movement went back to ancient Greece and Rome.)

The figures are allegories and while they are superbly rendered there is little emotional aspect. The building's magnificence with its gold and marble and beauty sets the tone: outrage that such evil, false accusation and corruption supporting it, could exist there. Not a happy view of humanity.

Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024 09:57 AM (zudum)

128 There are adult learning courses available, and some are pretty good. It's better learning this stuff as an adult anyway. The discussions are way better. Almost no pretentious, I-just-took-this-in-college-so-I-know-better stuff.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2024 09:57 AM (hR8f8)

129 If a pirate's dream is a sunken chest, who's dream am I?

Posted by: Brie Larson at January 17, 2024 09:57 AM (Zz0t1)

130 A Greek-Canadian friend of mine in high school said after vacationing in Greece that all the Nordic babes loved the brown/black-haired Greeks [and hosers!] because they were tired of all their guys being blond and blue-eyed!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 09:58 AM (2yu8s)

131 66% of Iowa voters think Joe Biden did not win 2020 legitimately: CNN entrance poll

Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 09:58 AM (RHGPo)

132 I have the strange urge to eat 18 curries.

Posted by: Seigmeyer of Catarina, Champion of Jellibotti at January 17, 2024 09:58 AM (SfSWS)

133 Lord, your voice is piercing, John!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 09:53 AM (Q0kLU)

I wish to heaven my arguments were!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 09:59 AM (zZu0s)

134 Milei is in Davos. Flew commercial and took selfies with passengers.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:59 AM (V13WU)

135 I saw some ancient art at the museum
They had it rough, I wouldn't want to be 'em
They'd pit a lion or a gator
'gainst a Roman gladiator
Don't hate me, I just column like I see 'em.


You're such a Doric.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 09:59 AM (CsUN+)

136 When I paint centaurs, they come out half-assed.

Posted by: Hoofin' It at January 17, 2024 10:00 AM (V5BDR)

137
Almost no pretentious, I-just-took-this-in-college-so-I-know-better stuff.

Posted by: Kris


"Your kids will be serving my kids french fries as we head to a ski vacation."

Seeing as he was co-author of the script and he seemed to take Will's side at that time, one is tempted to ask "On whose side are you now, Matt (Damon)?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 10:00 AM (xG4kz)

138 "I've got Type II diabetes but I manage it well
It's the little pill with the big story to tell
I take once-daily Jardiance...
...at each day's staaaart!
I'm doing well it's easy to see-ee
I'm lowering my A1c-ee"

Posted by: Chubby, lip-synching, bouncy, shuffle dance chick at January 17, 2024 10:00 AM (991eG)

139 Milei is in Davos. Flew commercial and took selfies with passengers.
Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:59 AM (V13WU)



I certainly hope he's there to lay waste to the communist assholes.

Otherwise, the world just got played.....again.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 10:00 AM (Zz0t1)

140 A Calumny of Apples. Is that like a Murder of Crows?

Posted by: red speck at January 17, 2024 10:00 AM (0Id0S)

141 When I paint centaurs, they come out half-assed.
Posted by: Hoofin' It

Much better than half-cocked.

Just saying.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 10:00 AM (SAX5G)

142
the market been tanking since the Davos confab started

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 09:55 AM


There is some planet wide banking rule to take effect in the next week. Something about assets being at some level - can you imagine? There are bound to be some here in the USA that don't make the cut.

If you have a hat, hold onto it.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 10:01 AM (nIvob)

143 wow; i guess in them old days if one had even an 8 year formal education that would set them up with greek, latin, math, reading and writing
Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024


***
I don't know if my father, born in 1907, ever finished high school. But he was a steady reader, and his arithmetic skills were top-notch; he earned his living as a clerk and bookkeeper for many years. Doubt he knew any Latin or Greek, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:01 AM (J2vNu)

144 Davos should be tactically nuked during this time of year.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 09:56 AM (Zz0t1)

One precisely placed nuke would right that ship, and pronto!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:57 AM (xG4kz)



*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 10:01 AM (Zz0t1)

145 The figure in black on the right reminds me of Captain Jack Sparrow.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 10:01 AM (SAX5G)

146 Reuters's Peter Thal Larsen points out that "Trump’s return could revive tensions with the European Union," which is true, before positing this howler: "undermining the Biden administration’s efforts to lead allies in taking a tougher stance towards China, the world’s second largest economy."

Biden is tough on China in the same way that I'm a sought-after prospect to play power forward in the NBA — it's not a thing that ever existed, or ever will exist.

Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 10:01 AM (RHGPo)

147 Botticelli totally ripped off Botticelli's Birth of Venus with that chick on the left.

Posted by: red speck at January 17, 2024 10:02 AM (0Id0S)

148 Milei is in Davos. Flew commercial and took selfies with passengers.

Contrast that with this guy, an actual reporter, confronting Kerry over his rules for thee, but not for me attitude. Luckily for him, Kerry was protected by a phalanx of Karens. He is a truly stupid man.

http://tinyurl.com/4ux92ywn

Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:02 AM (CsUN+)

149 If I ever get the chance to be in 1776, I would want to play the old delegate from Rhode Island who's always drinking rum.

Not only is it a great parts, but It's one of the few (besides Franklin) that would be somewhat age-appropriate for me at this point.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:02 AM (9yWhg)

150 You're such a Doric.
---------
Such an Ionic comment. Still, a capital pun.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:02 AM (2yu8s)

151 146 Reuters's Peter Thal Larsen points out that "Trump’s return could revive tensions with the European Union," which is true, before positing this howler: "undermining the Biden administration’s efforts to lead allies in taking a tougher stance towards China, the world’s second largest economy."

Biden is tough on China in the same way that I'm a sought-after prospect to play power forward in the NBA — it's not a thing that ever existed, or ever will exist.
Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 10:01 AM (RHGPo)

=======

'Member when Trump was racist for trying to impose tariffs on China?

I 'member.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:02 AM (7EXeB)

152 You're such a Doric.
---------
Such an Ionic comment. Still, a capital pun.
Posted by: andycanuck

HeyOhhhhh!!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 10:03 AM (SAX5G)

153 Posted by: Chubby, lip-synching, bouncy, shuffle dance chick at January 17, 2024 10:00 AM (991eG)

Now, that gal is round.

Posted by: BignJames at January 17, 2024 10:03 AM (AwYPR)

154 Seems to me I've read somewhere that the ancient Greek thought redheaded people were destined to become vampires after they died. Or were werewolves while alive. Or maybe both.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
So, just like today, ammirite?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024


***
In my experience, the female gingers are succubi and the male ones --- well, I don't care. Probably incubi. Or Rotarians.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:04 AM (J2vNu)

155 If you have a hat, sell it and buy a sword.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:04 AM (2yu8s)

156 In the Iliad, Homer refers to the Greeks as "Danaans."

Because they were cultured.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:04 AM (9yWhg)

157 66% of Iowa voters think Joe Biden did not win 2020 legitimately: CNN entrance poll

*******

Actually, 66% of Iowa Republican primary caucus attendees....but, whatever.

Posted by: Chubby, lip-synching, bouncy, shuffle dance chick at January 17, 2024 10:04 AM (991eG)

158 No horses. Botticelli is going out of his way to avoid horses. I'll bet he couldn't do horses.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2024 10:05 AM (wzAuc)

159 Question of the day...

Were the Dorians a separate ethnic group from the Ionian Greeks, a separate cultural group, or just another political/tribal group among the Greeks?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024 10:05 AM (ibTVg)

160
*******

Actually, 66% of Iowa Republican primary caucus attendees....but, whatever.
Posted by: Chubby, lip-synching, bouncy, shuffle dance chick at January 17, 2024 10:04 AM (991eG)



"We choose TRUTH over FACTS!!!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 10:05 AM (Zz0t1)

161 That's an epic sock fail

/fixt

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 10:05 AM (991eG)

162 >> If I ever get the chance to be in 1776, I would want to play the old delegate from Rhode Island who's always drinking rum.

You don't have to wait for a play. You can come here and do that right now. You'll blend right in.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 10:05 AM (ZLI7S)

163 In my experience, the female gingers are succubi and the male ones --- well, I don't care. Probably incubi. Or Rotarians.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

This man - he speaks words of wisdom.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 10:06 AM (SAX5G)

164 *sings*


A goddess with unshaven pits
Was standing nekkid in a room
It's Venus with beauty and love
Why can't she have big tits?

Posted by: Zombie Shocking Blue wioth an Artistic Critique at January 17, 2024 10:06 AM (nFnyb)

165 Oh wait, there ARE horses. Including those people/horses.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2024 10:06 AM (wzAuc)

166 "Botticelli totally ripped off Botticelli's Birth of Venus with that chick on the left."
Posted by: red speck

Self plagiarism. It's a nasty habit.

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2024 10:06 AM (vFG9F)

167 We're still awaiting an official pronouncement on the quality of the foot arches.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024


***
The babe with the torch has got it goin' on.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:06 AM (J2vNu)

168 Since we're past 100 and I'm probably going to have to leave to work any moment, here's what I wish I could be doing right now:

http://tinyurl.com/4u2kt484

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 10:06 AM (Q0kLU)

169
No dog. Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 17, 2024 10:07 AM (MoZTd)

170 In the Iliad, Homer refers to the Greeks as "Danaans."

Because they were cultured.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024


***
* applause *

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:07 AM (J2vNu)

171 138 >>"I've got Type II diabetes but I manage it well
It's the little pill with the big story to tell..."


I've assumed the payoff line was changed in post. Originally: "The little pill with a big, fat story to tell."

Posted by: red speck at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (0Id0S)

172 Davos should be tactically nuked during this time of year.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 09:56 AM (Zz0t1)

One precisely placed nuke would right that ship, and pronto!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:57 AM (xG4kz)


This One Simple Trick would make Putin, Hero of the World!

Posted by: Zombie Shocking Blue wioth an Artistic Critique at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (nFnyb)

173 Thanks for all the "1776" references. I thought I was the only one who loved the musical. Enjoyed it at the theater, wore out an LP, and know have a good DVD of it. A delightful combination of silly and poignant. I also do a decent impression of Howard Da Silva, my favorite in the show.

Shit, I've got to get the DVD out. I've already started hearing the songs in my head.

Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (zudum)

174 158 No horses. Botticelli is going out of his way to avoid horses. I'll bet he couldn't do horses.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2024 10:05 AM (wzAuc)


Not everyone can.

Posted by: Catherine the Great at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (PiwSw)

175 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Some fancy art today. I like it!
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (W/lyH)

176
Self plagiarism. It's a nasty habit.

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2024 10:06 AM


Nun would probably notice.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (nIvob)

177 AndyCanuck, what's your weather like? You're in southern Ontario, right? Near the Lake? We're getting pounded by lake effect again.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (hR8f8)

178 The babe with the torch has got it goin' on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


So, you're carrying a torch for her?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (9yWhg)

179 Since we're past 100 and I'm probably going to have to leave to work any moment, here's what I wish I could be doing right now:

http://tinyurl.com/4u2kt484
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

That would be fun! You can lead.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2024 10:09 AM (SAX5G)

180 173 Thanks for all the "1776" references. I thought I was the only one who loved the musical. Enjoyed it at the theater, wore out an LP, and know have a good DVD of it. A delightful combination of silly and poignant. I also do a decent impression of Howard Da Silva, my favorite in the show.

Shit, I've got to get the DVD out. I've already started hearing the songs in my head.
Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (zudum)

=======

The 4K disc is very pretty, if you ever upgrade.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:09 AM (7EXeB)

181 Since we're past 100 and I'm probably going to have to leave to work any moment, here's what I wish I could be doing right now:

http://tinyurl.com/4u2kt484


Thanks. That put a big smile on my face.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:09 AM (CsUN+)

182 Botticelli totally ripped off Botticelli's Birth of Venus with that chick on the left.
Posted by: red speck

*******

Sort of the "Where's Waldo?" of the classical art world.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 10:09 AM (991eG)

183 . I also do a decent impression of Howard Da Silva, my favorite in the show.

Shit, I've got to get the DVD out. I've already started hearing the songs in my head.
Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024


***
Who did da Silva play? Ben Franklin?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:09 AM (J2vNu)

184 168 Since we're past 100 and I'm probably going to have to leave to work any moment, here's what I wish I could be doing right now:
---------
You're such a Wiener!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (2yu8s)

185 If I ever get the chance to be in 1776, I would want to play the old delegate from Rhode Island who's always drinking rum.

Stephen Hopkins, who was also governor of RI.

I've done the show once, as Secretary Thompson. I'd love to play that again.

"The vote being twelve to none, with one abstention, the resolution on independence. . .is adopted."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (Q0kLU)

186 Self plagiarism. It's a nasty habit.
Posted by: fd


John Fogerty actually got sued for just that. Quoted from one of his songs that he'd already sold the rights to.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (9yWhg)

187 Davos should be tactically nuked during this time of year.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 09:56 AM (Zz0t1)

One precisely placed nuke would right that ship, and pronto!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2024 09:57 AM (xG4kz)


*fistbump*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden a

And the world would be a better place, and the world would be a better place for me, for 8....

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (yyfQG)

188 You're such a Wiener!

You never sausage a wiener.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (CsUN+)

189 Still below freezing outside. Just barely, but still below.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (J2vNu)

190 I don't understand the theme of the painting, but as an exercise in skill, it's glorious. Why is Venus out of her half shell and standing around?
Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 09:35 AM

I was going to note that! And he didn't "rip off" his Venus painting, rather she was Botticelli's favorite model, and probably lover. (He had very good taste, of course) I think she shows up in his "Primavera " as well..

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2024 10:11 AM (S6gqv)

191 I've done the show once, as Secretary Thompson. I'd love to play that again.


"Oh let me get through it once!"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:11 AM (9yWhg)

192
My paintings of horses are some of my best work. But I hate painting horses. I don't want them hanging on my walls. So I have given every one of them away.

I don't understand why people like paintings of horses. My style is kind of Edward Hopper-ish and I can't recall him ever including a horse in any of his landscapes either.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 10:11 AM (nIvob)

193 66% of Iowa voters think Joe Biden did not win 2020 legitimately: CNN entrance poll

Lowered by the Nikki Haley undercover Democrats, no doubt, but I wonder why the CIA-NN would even publish this. What are they after?

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2024 10:12 AM (fbFl3)

194 193 66% of Iowa voters think Joe Biden did not win 2020 legitimately: CNN entrance poll

Lowered by the Nikki Haley undercover Democrats, no doubt, but I wonder why the CIA-NN would even publish this. What are they after?
Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2024 10:12 AM (fbFl3)

========

To show that Republicans are dangerous.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:12 AM (7EXeB)

195 Thanks for all the "1776" references. I thought I was the only one who loved the musical. Enjoyed it at the theater, wore out an LP, and know have a good DVD of it. A delightful combination of silly and poignant. I also do a decent impression of Howard Da Silva, my favorite in the show.

Shit, I've got to get the DVD out. I've already started hearing the songs in my head.
Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (zudum)


There was also an LP of the movie soundtrack.

http://tinyurl.com/367r2y54

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 10:12 AM (Q0kLU)

196 Who did da Silva play? Ben Franklin?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Yep. He played a Founding Father so that people would forget that he had been on the Hollywood Blacklist.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:13 AM (9yWhg)

197 177 AndyCanuck, what's your weather like? You're in southern Ontario, right? Near the Lake? We're getting pounded by lake effect again.
------
Sunny with only about 2" of snow from the weekend and a tiny snowfall yesterday [although very wet and heavy for both snowfalls]; 8°F and wind not bad as for last weekend.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:13 AM (2yu8s)

198 I was going to note that! And he didn't "rip off" his Venus painting, rather she was Botticelli's favorite model, and probably lover. (He had very good taste, of course) I think she shows up in his "Primavera " as well..
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2024 10:11 AM (S6gqv)

Covered in red gravy?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 10:14 AM (4I/2K)

199 196 Who did da Silva play? Ben Franklin?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Yep. He played a Founding Father so that people would forget that he had been on the Hollywood Blacklist.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:13 AM (9yWhg)

=========

"I hate America for what it was and is. I love America for what it could be: a communist paradise."

"Aw...he loves America."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:14 AM (7EXeB)

200 My favorite number from 1776 is "He plays the violin."

Especially the movie version with Blythe Danner. Yum.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:14 AM (9yWhg)

201 66% of Iowa voters think Joe Biden did not win 2020 legitimately: CNN entrance poll

After the disputed 2000 election election officials gave full access to FNM and leftwing groups to audit the election. Those groups found Shrub actually increase his lead by a handful from their audit.

After the disputed 2020 election the government imprisoned people and the FNM cancelled them for asking for an audit of the election.

There is only one answer for why the responses to the two disputed elections were so different...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024 10:14 AM (ibTVg)

202 Who did da Silva play? Ben Franklin?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:09 AM (J2vNu)

Yes. And K.I.T.T. was John Addams.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:14 AM (zZu0s)

203 Who did da Silva play? Ben Franklin?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Yep. He played a Founding Father so that people would forget that he had been on the Hollywood Blacklist.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:13 AM (9yWhg)

Phil Silvers?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 10:14 AM (4I/2K)

204 Lowered by the Nikki Haley undercover Democrats, no doubt, but I wonder why the CIA-NN would even publish this. What are they after?
Posted by: t-bird

To show normies (who CNN believes don't believe the election was stolen) that Republicans are delusional, and supporting Trump is the equivalent of joining a cult. Respectable LIVs blindly vote for Joe to Save Democracy.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 17, 2024 10:14 AM (JCZqz)

205 I was going to note that! And he didn't "rip off" his Venus painting, rather she was Botticelli's favorite model, and probably lover. (He had very good taste, of course) I think she shows up in his "Primavera " as well..
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2024 10:11 AM (S6gqv)

Yes. Simonetta. She might be in his "Venus and Mars" too. She was married to the cousin of Amerigo Vespucci, the guy America is named after.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2024 10:15 AM (hR8f8)

206 AndyCanuck, what's your weather like? You're in southern Ontario, right? Near the Lake? We're getting pounded by lake effect again.
Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2024 10:08 AM (hR8f
================
Kris, are you in Buffalo (the snow capital of America)? I remember many trips on the thruway worried they were going to have to close it before I got finished using it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 17, 2024 10:15 AM (+Rum9)

207 You're such a Wiener!

You never sausage a wiener.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (CsUN+)


Frankly, this is absurd!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2024 10:15 AM (nFnyb)

208 180 ... "The 4K disc is very pretty, if you ever upgrade."

TJM:
Thanks for the heads up but our aging but functional TV isn't 4K. It's not a 'smart' TV either. The poor dumb thing just shows what we play without talking to anyone or anything else.

Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024 10:16 AM (zudum)

209 You're such a Wiener!

You never sausage a wiener.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (CsUN+)

Frankly, this is absurd!
Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2024 10:15 AM (nFnyb)

It's the wurst form of japery!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 10:16 AM (4I/2K)

210 I remember watching an interview with John Fogarty about that lawsuit. He said at one point the judge told him not to make new songs that sounded like CCR, and he replied "I'm the lead singer. How am I supposed to make a song where I don't sound like myself?"

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2024 10:16 AM (S6gqv)

211 To be honest, my original was just a little cartoon I did for the Athens Times.

Posted by: Je m'appelle Apelles at January 17, 2024 10:16 AM (fbFl3)

212 You're such a Wiener!

You never sausage a wiener.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (CsUN+)

Frankly, this is absurd!
Posted by: naturalfake


I don't want to see how these puns are being made.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:16 AM (9yWhg)

213 208 180 ... "The 4K disc is very pretty, if you ever upgrade."

TJM:
Thanks for the heads up but our aging but functional TV isn't 4K. It's not a 'smart' TV either. The poor dumb thing just shows what we play without talking to anyone or anything else.
Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024 10:16 AM (zudum)

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Just sayin'. The 4K is pretty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:17 AM (7EXeB)

214
Edward Hopper, horse
I misspoke, and will have to reign that in

https://t.ly/dgr73

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 10:17 AM (nIvob)

215 Who did da Silva play? Ben Franklin?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
Yep. He played a Founding Father so that people would forget that he had been on the Hollywood Blacklist.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024


***
He was a guest star on U.N.C.L.E. in '65 or '66 in one of the dullest and silliest episodes, "The Foreign Legion Affair." But he was vivid and colorful as usual.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:17 AM (J2vNu)

216 66% of Iowa voters think Joe Biden did not win 2020 legitimately: CNN entrance poll
Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 09:58 AM (RHGPo)




Incorrect. Here is the correct headline : "Nearly two-thirds of Iowa Republicans say President Biden’s victory in the 2020 election was not legitimate, according to Monday’s entrance polls ahead of the state’s caucuses." and if it is based on "entrance polls" that means 2/3 of the 19% that actually showed up. should I add "be better" ?

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:17 AM (V13WU)

217 183 ... "Who did da Silva play? Ben Franklin?"

Yup.

Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024 10:17 AM (zudum)

218 Bernie Sanders To Force Vote That Threatens To Freeze Military Aid to Israel

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Judenrat Bernie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:17 AM (FVME7)

219 My favorite:

Is anybody there?
Does anybody care?
Does anybody see what I see?
They want to me to quit; they say
John, give up the fight
Still to England I say
Good night, forever, good night!
For I have crossed the Rubicon
Let the bridge be burned behind me
Come what may, come what may

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:17 AM (zZu0s)

220 Sunny with only about 2" of snow from the weekend and a tiny snowfall yesterday [although very wet and heavy for both snowfalls]; 8°F and wind not bad as for last weekend.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:13 AM (2yu8s)

Huh. We got close to 2 feet over night with more coming.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2024 10:18 AM (hR8f8)

221 Posted by: Je m'appelle Apelles at January 17, 2024 10:16 AM (fbFl3)
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those are some nice appelles on your painting subjects.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 17, 2024 10:18 AM (+Rum9)

222 166 "Botticelli totally ripped off Botticelli's Birth of Venus with that chick on the left."
Posted by: red speck

Self plagiarism. It's a nasty habit.

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2024 10:06 AM (vFG9F)
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Self plagiarism is a no-no in scientific papers. Repeating your own published work in a subsequent paper gets you in trouble. A reference to that work is all that's acceptable.

Posted by: Ciampino - Xerox and Canon impacted at January 17, 2024 10:18 AM (qfLjt)

223 66% of Iowa voters think Joe Biden did not win 2020 legitimately: CNN entrance poll

Lowered by the Nikki Haley undercover Democrats, no doubt, but I wonder why the CIA-NN would even publish this. What are they after?
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If you firmly believe that 2020 was fair and just, pointing at people who don't believe it and emphasizing their disbelief is an attempt to otherize them.

The problem is, the people who quite easily observe that 2020 was stolen aren't going to change their minds based on the media poo pooing their position, and with absolutely everything in this country going to shit, continuing to bring it up gives the dopey moderate LIVs the opportunity to consider that maybe their vote for Biden isn't at fault for their misery.

Posted by: Methos at January 17, 2024 10:19 AM (Dnobf)

224 Especially the movie version with Blythe Danner. Yum.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:14 AM (9yWhg)


And then...I gave birth to Gwenyth Paltrow!

Posted by: Blythe Danner at January 17, 2024 10:20 AM (nFnyb)

225 216 Incorrect. Here is the correct headline : "Nearly two-thirds of Iowa Republicans say President Biden’s victory in the 2020 election was not legitimate, according to Monday’s entrance polls ahead of the state’s caucuses." and if it is based on "entrance polls" that means 2/3 of the 19% that actually showed up. should I add "be better" ?
Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:17 AM (V13WU)

========

I would argue that a sample derived from this 19% is probably more accurate in its portrait of the Republican electorate than any poll.

Sure, the 19% isn't random, but neither is any poll which is why they have "methodology".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:20 AM (7EXeB)

226 Rebel News @RebelNewsOnline 21h
🚨WE CAUGHT HIM! Watch what happened when @ezralevant spotted the president of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation on the street in Davos today.

We finally asked him all the questions the mainstream media refuses to ask — including about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.

SUPPORT: WEFreports.com

Ezra Levant 🍁🚛 @ezralevant 2h
19 hours to get to a million views.

People obviously feel that Bill Gates has not been held to account for what he’s done — especially for what he did with Jeffrey Epstein.

http://tinyurl.com/3eu573d6
8:01 minutes; walking interview

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:20 AM (2yu8s)

227 I wonder. If you asked 100 college sophomores to define the word "calumny" how many would get it correct?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024 10:20 AM (W/lyH)

228 Kris, are you in Buffalo (the snow capital of America)? I remember many trips on the thruway worried they were going to have to close it before I got finished using it.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 17, 2024 10:15 AM (+Rum9)

Yup. The Thruway is closed to commercial traffic from Rochester to the PA line. My town has a driving ban right now.

Posted by: Kris at January 17, 2024 10:20 AM (hR8f8)

229 Yes. And K.I.T.T. was John Addams.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024


***
Daniels starred in a clever satire of the TV Batman in the short-lived 1967 series Captain Nice. Later he was on St. Elsewhere, and the Trivia for 1776 says that show had lots of references to the 1776 film and to John Adams.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:20 AM (J2vNu)

230 And then...I gave birth to Gwenyth Paltrow!
Posted by: Blythe Danner at January 17, 2024


***
Blythe, dear, rest assured you've always been hotter than your daughter.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:21 AM (J2vNu)

231 "Self plagiarism is a no-no in scientific papers. Repeating your own published work in a subsequent paper gets you in trouble. A reference to that work is all that's acceptable.
Posted by: Ciampino"

How about in the comments section on a blog?

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2024 10:21 AM (vFG9F)

232 I've got Type II diabetes but I manage it well
It's the little pill with the big story to tell
I take once-daily Jardiance...
...at each day's staaaart!
I'm doing well it's easy to see-ee
I'm lowering my A1c-ee"
Posted by: Chubby, lip-synching, bouncy, shuffle dance chick at January 17, 2024 10:00 AM (991eG)
~~~~~

Every time I see that commercial I think, "Maybe if she just lost some weight..."

Posted by: IrishEi at January 17, 2024 10:21 AM (kQDzN)

233 I wonder. If you asked 100 college sophomores to define the word "calumny" how many would get it correct?

Now tell them to contrast calumny with contumely. Their heads would explode.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:21 AM (CsUN+)

234 Self plagiarism is a no-no in scientific papers. Repeating your own published work in a subsequent paper gets you in trouble. A reference to that work is all that's acceptable.
Posted by: Ciampino


It irritates me when historians cite their own previous works in footnotes or bibliographies.

OK, you got that factoid from your previous work. But where did you get it from when you wrote that work? How do I know you just didn't pull it out of your ass when you wrote the previous work?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:21 AM (9yWhg)

235 Daniels starred in a clever satire of the TV Batman in the short-lived 1967 series Captain Nice. Later he was on St. Elsewhere, and the Trivia for 1776 says that show had lots of references to the 1776 film and to John Adams.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:20 AM (J2vNu)

He was also in "Her Alibi' as Tom Selleck's agent/editor or publisher?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:22 AM (zZu0s)

236 212 You're such a Wiener!

You never sausage a wiener.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (CsUN+)

Frankly, this is absurd!
Posted by: naturalfake


I don't want to see how these puns are being made.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:16 AM (9yWhg)
----
Well they are extruded. You know what else is extruded?

Posted by: Ciampino - gabe me the shaft at January 17, 2024 10:22 AM (qfLjt)

237 There's a lot of columny going on in the background, as well.

Go to Italy, and that “columny” will seem subdued and tasteful.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (EXyHK)

238 Blinken: Hey, You Know What Would Fix This Problem? A Palestinian State

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Out Final Solution. In Never Ending Ongoing Solution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (FVME7)

239 I would argue that a sample derived from this 19% is probably more accurate in its portrait of the Republican electorate than any poll.

Sure, the 19% isn't random, but neither is any poll which is why they have "methodology".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:20 AM (7EXeB)

last time it was "Jimmy Kimmel is in Eistein files". fake but accurate is still fake, accuracy is very dubios

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (V13WU)

240 And then...I gave birth to Gwenyth Paltrow!
Posted by: Blythe Danner at January 17, 2024

***
Blythe, dear, rest assured you've always been hotter than your daughter.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Agreed. Even today.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (9yWhg)

241 Oh, what the hell - "He Plays The Violin:"

http://tinyurl.com/4zuufp2b

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (Q0kLU)

242 You're such a Wiener!

You never sausage a wiener.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:10 AM (CsUN+)

Frankly, this is absurd!
Posted by: naturalfake


I don't want to see how these puns are being made.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:16 AM (9yWhg)


Who started this? Andouille need to stop it?

Posted by: Doof at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (XIF9h)

243 Blinken: Hey, You Know What Would Fix This Problem? A Palestinian State

In Jordan

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (n2vyf)

244 Blinken: Hey, You Know What Would Fix This Problem? A Palestinian State
-
Out Final Solution. In Never Ending Ongoing Solution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (FVME7)

Let's give 'em....Oregon.

Posted by: BignJames at January 17, 2024 10:25 AM (AwYPR)

245 Lips and assholes have entered the chat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (R4t5M)

246 Every time I see that commercial I think, "Maybe if she just lost some weight..."
--------------
I'm always impressed that her tiny feets can carry that amount weight. Feets are something special.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (pZ64F)

247 239 last time it was "Jimmy Kimmel is in Eistein files". fake but accurate is still fake, accuracy is very dubios
Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (V13WU)

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I wasn't arguing that the assertion that 66% of all Iowans thought that about the 2020 election.

I was arguing that a poll of 19% of Iowa Republicans is probably more accurate than a poll of 500 "random" Republicans (generally the kind of size one would expect from a statewide poll).

Do you think that the number of Iowa Republicans who believe the 2020 was illegitimate is materially different from 66%?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (7EXeB)

248 Wiener, winner, win her, whiner - seen one you've sinner all.

Posted by: Ciampino - wine err? at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (qfLjt)

249 I hate Trump more than I have ever hated anything in my life. Last night I made a new tRump voodoo doll and stuck pins in it and then burned it. I felt better. I put a "bind tRump" spell on him each month for 4 years. I saved all the key materials so it is easy to whip up a new one.

The man truly has a knack for inspiring feelings of hatred, it's really the only thing he's good at. Not only in people like you who realize what Trump represents, but also in the hordes of devoted followers who then focus that hatred on those he targets.

He is the worst thing to happen to America and the biggest divider of our country. No unity from him just division. multiply the hate because he hid Covid and your dad died because he hid it.

I know how you all feel, man I hate him too. I'm gonna give myself a hate stroke.

magats are worshipping that bloviating POS. The worse thing to happen to the nation since the Civil War. trump has done nothing constructive for the nation but tear down our relationships with allies, and help the rich get richer...and himself of course.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (JCZqz)

250 There is another drawing of a centaur in a panel above the throne. In this one, a person is either fleeing or leading the centaur, whose head is bowed and its arms behind its back, which bears a small human figure. The centaur is very small -- its bent head is on the same level as the leading human figure. Perhaps it's a young one being taken into slavery.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (J2vNu)

251 Biden just can't help himself. He lies about obvious, easily disproven things. How is this man in the WH?

http://tinyurl.com/2ptsj3bd

Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (CsUN+)

252 what the commenter posted made seem that static applied to ALL voters in the state, TJamesMadison, not just Republicans, or did you not catch that ?

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (V13WU)

253 Department of Justice Acknowledges Hunter Biden Laptop Content is Legitimate for First Time

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Already? Boy, they're quick like a bunny!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (FVME7)

254 Who started this? Andouille need to stop it?
Posted by: Doof


I think we need to soppressita.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (9yWhg)

255 Do you think that the number of Iowa Republicans who believe the 2020 was illegitimate is materially different from 66%?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (7EXeB)

Probably a little higher

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (n2vyf)

256 @238

>>Out Final Solution. In Never Ending Ongoing Solution.

The only solution is to eject all of the pali's from Gaza, The West Bank and pretty much from all lands of Israel.

Anything less is masturbation.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (XV/Pl)

257 >>> “A movement can’t be about the personality of one individual,” DeSantis went on.

Excellent point.

As a standalone comment it is indepedent of whether the movement is for or against the individual.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (cOq4q)

258 Lips and assholes have entered the chat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (R4t5M)

Baloney.

Posted by: BignJames at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (AwYPR)

259 calumny /kăl′əm-nē/
noun

False accusation of crime, maliciously made, to the injury of another; a defamatory report;

********

Dear Abby - a limerick

To supervisors and military commanders
The vile calumnist constantly panders
So what is your recourse
To answer force with force?
A strongly worded letter to... Ann Slanders

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (991eG)

260 Huh. We got close to 2 feet over night with more coming.
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Toronto is in a real sweet spot; too far away from Georgian Bay and Lake Huron to get its lake-effect snow from north winds or winds from the NW; usually too far away from Lake Erie that hits Upstate NY with W and winds heading SE like yesterday. Usually get lake-effect mainly just from winds directly from the South.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (2yu8s)

261 249 I hate Trump more than I have ever hated anything in my life. Last night I made a new tRump voodoo doll and stuck pins in it and then burned it. I felt better. I put a "bind tRump" spell on him each month for 4 years. I saved all the key materials so it is easy to whip up a new one.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (JCZqz)

========

These people seem stable, but this first one is first for a reason.

Old hippies be angry, yo.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (7EXeB)

262 "I hate Trump more than I have ever hated anything in my life. Last night I made a new tRump voodoo doll and stuck pins in it and then burned it. I felt better. I put a "bind tRump" spell on him each month for 4 years. I saved all the key materials so it is easy to whip up a new one."

These people are just... meh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (zZu0s)

263 Blinken: Hey, You Know What Would Fix This Problem? A Palestinian State ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:23 AM (FVME7)
++++
Look, if they didn't have old solutions with proven track records of failure, they'd have nothing at all.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (C19Uv)

264 252 what the commenter posted made seem that static applied to ALL voters in the state, TJamesMadison, not just Republicans, or did you not catch that ?
Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (V13WU)

========

I did. I've explained twice what I mean.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (7EXeB)

265 Let's give 'em....Oregon.
Posted by: BignJames


And force them to pump their own gas?! That would just be a continuation of the Gazan genocide!!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:28 AM (9yWhg)

266 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (JCZqz)

Oh boy

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2024 10:28 AM (n2vyf)

267 Out: You can't elect that women as a Senator from Delaware she's a witch!

In: Last night I made a new tRump voodoo doll and stuck pins in it and then burned it. I felt better. I put a "bind tRump" spell on him each month for 4 years. I saved all the key materials so it is easy to whip up a new one.

Posted by: The Left at January 17, 2024 10:28 AM (ibTVg)

268 How about in the comments section on a blog??

Posted by: amy schumer at January 17, 2024 10:29 AM (2yu8s)

269 Blythe, dear, rest assured you've always been hotter than your daughter.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
Agreed. Even today.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024


***
Around the time of 1776, Blythe and Ken Howard (Thomas Jefferson in the film) played married lawyers in a TV version of the Spencer Tracy-Katharine Hepburn movie comedy Adam's Rib. The show did not last long, though I'd always heard it was pretty clever. I wonder if any episodes might exist on Yootoob . . .?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:29 AM (J2vNu)

270 @251

>>How is this man in the WH?

Because he was the designated Meat Sack the Junta/Deep State wanted installed in the WH.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 17, 2024 10:29 AM (XV/Pl)

271 I've explained twice what I mean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (7EXeB)


I still don't get it

Posted by: Doof at January 17, 2024 10:29 AM (XIF9h)

272 271 I've explained twice what I mean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (7EXeB)

I still don't get it
Posted by: Doof at January 17, 2024 10:29 AM (XIF9h)

========

Neither do I.

*weeps bitterly but manfully*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:29 AM (7EXeB)

273 I did. I've explained twice what I mean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (7EXeB)

Nuh uh!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:30 AM (zZu0s)

274 In: Last night I made a new tRump voodoo doll and stuck pins in it and then burned it. I felt better. I put a "bind tRump" spell on him each month for 4 years. I saved all the key materials so it is easy to whip up a new one.


Hey, Sally! How's Ben doin'?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:30 AM (9yWhg)

275 Not sure which song from "1776" is my favorite. (It is NOT the Lees of Old Virginia song.) Momma, Look Sharp is made especially effective by the fade out at the end. Molasses to Rum to Slaves is almost overpowering. Then I remember how much fun the lyrics and harmonies in The Egg can be.

Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024 10:30 AM (zudum)

276 Since we're past 100 and I'm probably going to have to leave to work any moment, here's what I wish I could be doing right now:

http://tinyurl.com/4u2kt484
____

Austria's new colonizers will probably put an end to such a brazen display of sexuality. I give it about 10 years based on current trajectory.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2024 10:30 AM (fs1hN)

277 You're such a Wiener!

You never sausage a wiener.
Posted by: Archimedes

Frankly, this is absurd!
Posted by: naturalfake

I don't want to see how these puns are being made.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
----
Well they are extruded. You know what else is extruded?
Posted by: Ciampino
=====
Case closed!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:31 AM (2yu8s)

278 Do you think that the number of Iowa Republicans who believe the 2020 was illegitimate is materially different from 66%?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (7EXeB)


it does not matter what I "think" and "feel", I do not not know, because there was no poll taken, and you do not either. As faer as materiality, 1) He misquoted and 2) you are trying to make it into something that it is not - a highly motivated 19% is not the same as general population. In fact , one can argue that the rest of Republicans the 81% percent that did not show up are more representative.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:32 AM (V13WU)

279 what the commenter posted made seem that static applied to ALL voters in the state, TJamesMadison, not just Republicans, or did you not catch that ?
Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (V13WU)

========

I did. I've explained twice what I mean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (7EXeB)


Go for three.

But, this time with more gusto!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2024 10:32 AM (nFnyb)

280 Biden just can't help himself. He lies about obvious, easily disproven things. How is this man in the WH?

If I told the truth, the media would call me a liar. And then where would I be?

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 17, 2024 10:32 AM (fbFl3)

281 Momma, Look Sharp


Eh, it was the 70s. They had to include an antiwar song.

Molasses to Rum to Slaves is a tour-de-force, however, at least in the film. John Collum was outstanding.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:32 AM (9yWhg)

282 “A movement can’t be about the personality of one individual,” DeSantis went on.

I don’t think DeSantis has realized yet that he’s not competing against a movement about one individual. If he did, he would probably be a lot more successful. And probably would have started being more successful long ago.

“While people believe in the magic power of personalities, rather than the human fallibility of individuals, they will never be free.”—Michael Moorcock, The Nomad of Time

If ever there was a movement that recognized the fallibility of the individual, it is the people who have come to support Trump.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 17, 2024 10:32 AM (EXyHK)

283 It irritates me when historians cite their own previous works in footnotes or bibliographies.

********

The AAP is infamous (or should be) for self referential citations.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 10:32 AM (991eG)

284 You know who else had an Austrian ball?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 10:32 AM (R4t5M)

285 I wrote down the suggested psalms from the previous thread, thanks all!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 17, 2024 10:33 AM (EGSGm)

286 You know who else had an Austrian ball?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


Not Goebbals. He had no balls at all.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:34 AM (9yWhg)

287 Lips and assholes have entered the chat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 17, 2024 10:26 AM (R4t5M)

Baloney.
Posted by: BignJames at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (AwYPR)

This is headed towards a scrapple.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 10:34 AM (4I/2K)

288 *weeps bitterly but manfully*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:29 AM (7EXeB)


Drink some whiskey and stop crying

Posted by: Doof at January 17, 2024 10:34 AM (XIF9h)

289 278 it does not matter what I "think" and "feel", I do not not know, because there was no poll taken, and you do not either. As faer as materiality, 1) He misquoted and 2) you are trying to make it into something that it is not - a highly motivated 19% is not the same as general population. In fact , one can argue that the rest of Republicans the 81% percent that did not show up are more representative.
Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:32 AM (V13WU)

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That may very well be.

But in terms of measurement, it's something. It's a large sample (non-random for sure), and I trust it more than I trust telephone polls (which have shown consistently that more than 50% of the Republican electorate thinks the 2020 election was illegitimate).

So, the most active members of the party think that the 2020 election was illegitimate. I wonder why other candidates, who have swept the question of 2020 legitimacy under the rug, have failed to catch hold with the Republican electorate? It's a mystery.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:34 AM (7EXeB)

290 251 Biden just can't help himself. He lies about obvious, easily disproven things. How is this man in the WH?
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KJP lied again yesterday about cops having been killed on J6 too.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:34 AM (2yu8s)

291 Woke Business Managers Rebranding “ESG” Investment as “Responsible Business

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And I'm a "Ballet Dancer."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:34 AM (FVME7)

292 How about in the comments section on a blog?

*******

Sometimes you have to act as your own straight man.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 10:34 AM (991eG)

293 Oh boy
Posted by: It's me donna


Yeah, I was reading those transmissions and thinking, hey, where have I seen those same arguments the past few days...?

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2024 10:35 AM (fbFl3)

294 Is there is a legitimate poll out there that shows Iowans' position about the 2020 election, and whether it was stolen or not, I would like to see it. But don't shove a highly skewed poll in my face and then tell me it is representative.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:35 AM (V13WU)

295 288 *weeps bitterly but manfully*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:29 AM (7EXeB)

Drink some whiskey and stop crying
Posted by: Doof at January 17, 2024 10:34 AM (XIF9h)

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And yet, how can one watch It's a Wonderful Life and not weep?

I put it to you, sir!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:35 AM (7EXeB)

296 You're such a Wiener!

You never sausage a wiener.
Posted by: Archimedes

Frankly, this is absurd!
Posted by: naturalfake

I don't want to see how these puns are being made.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Well they are extruded. You know what else is extruded?
Posted by: Ciampino
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Case closed!
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:31 AM (2yu8s)
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Anyone got a link to this stuff?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024 10:36 AM (W/lyH)

297 Kris, are you in Buffalo (the snow capital of America)?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 17, 2024 10:15 AM (+Rum9)
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Ahem ..... Florida has entered the chat.

Posted by: Ciampino - Cream and Cocaine at January 17, 2024 10:36 AM (qfLjt)

298 262 "I hate Trump more than I have ever hated anything in my life. Last night I made a new tRump voodoo doll and stuck pins in it and then burned it. I felt better. I put a "bind tRump" spell on him each month for 4 years. I saved all the key materials so it is easy to whip up a new one."

These people are just... meh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (zZu0s)

These people are toddlers. Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 17, 2024 10:36 AM (KbCG3)

299 heading SE like yesterday.
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Ooops. Meant heading NE.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:36 AM (2yu8s)

300 It irritates me when historians cite their own previous works in footnotes or bibliographies.

As it turns out, there’s a discussion of citing yourself on one of the Stack Overflow sites right now.

If I’m reading it right (and I might not be, this interests me almost not at all) the system is designed to encourage those kinds of cites. First, you can actually be accused of self-plagiarism if you don’t. And, second, one of the metrics by which “scholars” are rated is how often they’re cited. And citing yourself counts towards that total.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 17, 2024 10:36 AM (EXyHK)

301 I notice none of the moral scolds, the NeverTrump, have a word to say about the blasphemous "Letter to God" Fanni wrote.

The whole "I am a black woman and You have wronged me!"

You know, I'm really beginning to doubt the Christianity of these folks.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 17, 2024 10:36 AM (PFILT)

302 ‘Just what in the wide world of sports is going on here?’

Posted by: Eromero at January 17, 2024 10:37 AM (Nq2KV)

303 298 These people are just... meh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (zZu0s)

These people are toddlers. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 17, 2024 10:36 AM (KbCG3)

=========

A while back, someone went through the demo of the people who frequent DU. It's old. These are New Left partisans.

These are 70 year old wannabe hippies who regret a lot in life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:37 AM (7EXeB)

304 Anyone got a link to this stuff?
Posted by: Diogenes


Q. What's the most popular kind of sausage in Canada?
A. Lynx

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:37 AM (9yWhg)

305 The Internet Broadway Database says that the opening night cast in 1969 of 1776 had Daniels, da Silva, Ken Howard, and Virginia Vestoff in the roles they played in the film.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:37 AM (J2vNu)

306 Well, I can tell those DU commenters are highly motivated.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2024 10:38 AM (V13WU)

307 282 “A movement can’t be about the personality of one individual,” DeSantis went on.

I don’t think DeSantis has realized yet that he’s not competing against a movement about one individual. If he did, he would probably be a lot more successful. And probably would have started being more successful long ago.

“While people believe in the magic power of personalities, rather than the human fallibility of individuals, they will never be free.”—Michael Moorcock, The Nomad of Time

If ever there was a movement that recognized the fallibility of the individual, it is the people who have come to support Trump.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair
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True. Trump represents to his voters the antithesis of GOPe uniparty in DC which is do nothing but speak a lot. That is because what GOPe actually desires is not what its voters want. The recent idiotic GOP senate plan for resolving the border is a perfect example.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2024 10:38 AM (gvoQe)

308 282 “A movement can’t be about the personality of one individual,” DeSantis went on.

I don’t think DeSantis has realized yet that he’s not competing against a movement about one individual. If he did, he would probably be a lot more successful. And probably would have started being more successful long ago.

“While people believe in the magic power of personalities, rather than the human fallibility of individuals, they will never be free.”—Michael Moorcock, The Nomad of Time

If ever there was a movement that recognized the fallibility of the individual, it is the people who have come to support Trump.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 17, 2024 10:32 AM (EXyHK)


I wonder if DeSantis can see that this is a prettified version of the Left's "Trump voters are stupid."/"Trump voters are a cult.".

Not the smartest way to get people you need on your side. And you're a politician, Ronald. It's your job to convince people.

This whole run has been badly mishandled.

Try arguing age and your state accomplishments. Sheesh!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2024 10:38 AM (nFnyb)

309
You know, I'm really beginning to doubt the Christianity of these folks.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 17, 2024 10:36 AM


I'm still trying to figure out how someone can be an African Methodist and Episcopalian at the same time.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 17, 2024 10:38 AM (nIvob)

310 A while back, someone went through the demo of the people who frequent DU. It's old. These are New Left partisans.

These are 70 year old wannabe hippies who regret a lot in life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:37 AM (7EXeB)

They may be old but they never grew up.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 17, 2024 10:38 AM (KbCG3)

311 and Virginia Vestoff


As Abigail Adams. Also a nice-looking actress.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:38 AM (9yWhg)

312 Q. What's the most popular kind of sausage in Canada?
A. Lynx
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:37 AM (9yWhg)


Groan...

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024 10:40 AM (W/lyH)

313 >>I did. I've explained twice what I mean.

I'm not sure why this is even a debate. There have been numerous polls since the 2020 election that show that somewhere around 60% of Republican voters nationally think the 2020 election was rigged. Hell, just yesterday the DOJ finally admitted the Hunter laptop was real and they have known this since they got the laptop in 2018. Yet 51 former intelligence operatives signed a letter indicating it was probably Russia disinformation just days before the election.

Then there was the massive government censorship of conservatives which is now heading to the SC.

Forget the obvious voting issues in the swing states, that is election interference. That is cheating. That makes an unfair election.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 10:40 AM (ZLI7S)

314 Chinese Lab Crafts Mutant COVID-19 Strain with 100% Kill Streak in "Humanized" Mice: "Surprisingly" Rapid Death

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And the Big Guy gets 10%!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:40 AM (FVME7)

315 They may be old but they never grew up.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 17, 2024 10:38 AM (KbCG3)

Zombie Jimmy Buffett wrote a song about that.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 10:41 AM (4I/2K)

316 307 True. Trump represents to his voters the antithesis of GOPe uniparty in DC which is do nothing but speak a lot. That is because what GOPe actually desires is not what its voters want. The recent idiotic GOP senate plan for resolving the border is a perfect example.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2024 10:38 AM (gvoQe)

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It seems immaterially easy to walk into the Republican Party and take the mantle away from those who are currently in possession of it.

So easy, a real estate developer from Queens could do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:41 AM (7EXeB)

317 The Internet Broadway Database says that the opening night cast in 1969 of 1776 had Daniels, da Silva, Ken Howard, and Virginia Vestoff in the roles they played in the film.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Jack Warner didn't want a repeat of the controversy that had surrounded his replacing Julie Andrews with Audrey Hepburn in the film version of My Fair Lady. So he made sure to keep the original stage cast in the film version of 1776.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:41 AM (9yWhg)

318 296 You're such a Wiener!

You never sausage a wiener.
Posted by: Archimedes

Frankly, this is absurd!
Posted by: naturalfake

I don't want to see how these puns are being made.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
----
Well they are extruded. You know what else is extruded?
Posted by: Ciampino
=====
Case closed!
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:31 AM (2yu8s)
***

Anyone got a link to this stuff?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024 10:36 AM (W/lyH)
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You people are the wurst.

Posted by: Ciampino - South African boerevors at January 17, 2024 10:41 AM (qfLjt)

319  I wonder why other candidates, who have swept the question of 2020 legitimacy under the rug, have failed to catch hold with the Republican electorate? It's a mystery.
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"They just don't want to hear the truth."
/s/ Chris Christie

"They sure weren't acting patriotic on J6, either. "
/s/ Ronald DeSantis

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 17, 2024 10:41 AM (PFILT)

320 Painting looks like a highly stylized depiction of Nikki Haley being summoned before the Counsel of Weapons Industry Oligarchs.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2024 10:41 AM (dGCAG)

321 Daniels had quite the stage career. He was in the sage plays of Life With Father, On a Clear Day You Can See Forever, and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. In the last one, Kirk Douglas played McMurphy, and Ed Ames (!!) played the big Indian, Chief Bromden.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:42 AM (J2vNu)

322 I’m kinda resigned to the fact we’re fucked no matter what happens with elections. Society is fucked and beyond repair. Elections don’t fix that.

Posted by: Montec at January 17, 2024 10:42 AM (lX8S5)

323 @282

>>If ever there was a movement that recognized the fallibility of the individual, it is the people who have come to support Trump.

Again, what we are seeing is simply a replay of 2016, literally all the 16 other GOP knuckleheads had to do was simply understand that Trumps positions were where the base was at and co-opt them or at least pay lip service to them, instead they basically destroyed all of their campaigns by listening to the consultant class instead of the base.

First of all, with Trump on the scene there is no rationale for anyone on the GOP side to oppose him, so that's prime.

Second, everyone knows, even Donks in their most honest moments, know, 2020 was straight up stolen, period.

Third all DeSantis had to do, if he were serious was to say, yeah, 2020 was stolen, Democrats are filthy election thieves, they tried to steal my election in 2018, I stopped them, this is what they do everywhere and we are going to put a stop to this bullsh*t, I can, Trump can't. I'm going to pardon Trump, I'm going to pardon all the J6's, every last one of them, and we are sending all of these wetbacks back to where they f**king came from, F**k Ukraine, F**k McConnel, Yada Yada Ya

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 17, 2024 10:42 AM (XV/Pl)

324 And yet, how can one watch It's a Wonderful Life and not weep?

I put it to you, sir!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:35 AM (7EXeB)


Ummm. OK you got me there

Posted by: Doof at January 17, 2024 10:43 AM (XIF9h)

325
Dear Abby - a limerick

To supervisors and military commanders
The vile calumnist constantly panders
So what is your recourse
To answer force with force?
A strongly worded letter to... Ann Slanders
Posted by: Muldoon at January 17, 2024 10:27 AM (991eG)
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I had a cool retort, but I gotta say, that's pretty darned clever.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024 10:43 AM (W/lyH)

326 281 ... "Momma, Look Sharp.
Eh, it was the 70s. They had to include an antiwar song."

I didn't think of it as antiwar but that there are costs and loss in any war, even when justified. The song took an abstract and put a personal side to it.

Posted by: JTB at January 17, 2024 10:43 AM (zudum)

327 I still don't get it
Posted by: Doof at January 17, 2024 10:29 AM (XIF9h)
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Neither do I.
*weeps bitterly but manfully*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra

Light the Moron beacon! BEN ROETHLISBERGER, where are you when you're most needed?!?!?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 17, 2024 10:43 AM (JCZqz)

328 On a Clear Day You Can See Forever


Probably the only movie in which both Jack Nicholson and Bob Newhart co-starred, though they had no scenes together.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:44 AM (9yWhg)

329 Chief Nerd
@TheChiefNerd
Argentina's Javier Milei Destroys the Narrative of the Elites at Davos: 'Long Live Freedom Damnit!'

http://tinyurl.com/6r6ubz9x

Posted by: IrishEi at January 17, 2024 10:44 AM (kQDzN)

330 It seems immaterially easy to walk into the Republican Party and take the mantle away from those who are currently in possession of it.

So easy, a real estate developer from Queens could do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:41 AM (7EXeB)

*types* *deletes sarcastic argument from yesterday's thread*

Meh, I hate discussions where I become emotionally engaged.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:44 AM (zZu0s)

331 I had a cool retort, but I gotta say, that's pretty darned clever.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024


***
A sharp retort, aka a broken glass beaker from the chem lab

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:44 AM (J2vNu)

332 I just keep coming back to the point that Trumpism without Trump is extremely possible.

You just have to accept that most of the Republican electorate is, shall we say, suspicious of the 2020 results. You have to address it. You have to make it part of your platform that "We know what they did to break the rules in 2020, and we will work to make sure that they can't do it again whether that's in Philly or in your precinct in rural Iowa!" (Dave in Fla did an analysis of some rural Iowa counties that showed hinky results that heavily implied cheating extended that far, not enough to change the results, but in a way that implied the amorphous, decentralized reach of the effort.)

"2020 was a normal election and we just need to be better at campaigning" falls on a lot of deaf ears right now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:45 AM (7EXeB)

333 nd yet, how can one watch It's a Wonderful Life and not weep?

I put it to you, sir!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Only because Donna Reed never shows her boobs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:45 AM (9yWhg)

334 Third all DeSantis had to do, if he were serious was to say, yeah, 2020 was stolen, Democrats are filthy election thieves, they tried to steal my election in 2018, I stopped them, this is what they do everywhere and we are going to put a stop to this bullsh*t, I can, Trump can't. I'm going to pardon Trump, I'm going to pardon all the J6's, every last one of them, and we are sending all of these wetbacks back to where they f**king came from, F**k Ukraine, F**k McConnel, Yada Yada Ya
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 17, 2024 10:42 AM (XV/Pl)

Followed by a Dean Scream.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 10:45 AM (4I/2K)

335 I'm going to pardon all the J6's, every last one of them, and we are sending all of these wetbacks back to where they f**king came from, F**k Ukraine, F**k McConnel, Yada Yada Ya
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 17, 2024 10:42 AM (XV/Pl)

You can be my VP.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (ufFY8)

336 Also Wikipedia, in part: On the throne, the king has the donkey's ears of King Midas, and Ignorance on his far side and Suspicion on the near side grasp these as they speak into them. The king extends his hand towards Calumny, but his eyes look down so that he cannot see the scene.[8]

Government, right?

Very interesting but would pass hanging. Thank you.

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear. They only have to outrun us - for now at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (GshMh)

337 U.K. Gov't Warns: Be Ready for War With China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea in Five Years

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And what of Lichtenstein?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (FVME7)

338 If I’m reading it right (and I might not be, this interests me almost not at all) the system is designed to encourage those kinds of cites. First, you can actually be accused of self-plagiarism if you don’t. And, second, one of the metrics by which “scholars” are rated is how often they’re cited. And citing yourself counts towards that total.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair
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You cannot really plagiarize yourself. Your work can be unoriginal but you are neither depriving someone else of academic credit for work nor are you being sloppy in attribution as to the authorship of ideas. Instead, it is more that usually in academic circles, you give the rights to your existing work to the academic publisher and they in turn put them in very expensive journal databases. Plus idiotic departments that rely on counts of cited work.

Most academic work is iterative where a draft paper is floated among friends, then a more substantial work is presented at a regional or national conference, and then perhaps culminating in a published article. The general statement that prior versions exist that have been presented etc. is usually enough.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (gvoQe)

339 And yet, how can one watch It's a Wonderful Life and not weep?

I put it to you, sir!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Only because Donna Reed never shows her boobs.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:45 AM (9yWhg)

Well, that alone makes me weep.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (4I/2K)

340 330 *types* *deletes sarcastic argument from yesterday's thread*

Meh, I hate discussions where I become emotionally engaged.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:44 AM (zZu0s)

========

To break things up yesterday, I even went so far as to mention Prometheus.

I'm not going to mention Prometheus now, though. I've considered mentioning Prometheus, but I won't mention Prometheus, keeping this thread Prometheus free.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (7EXeB)

341 Third all DeSantis had to do, if he were serious was to say, yeah, 2020 was stolen, Democrats are filthy election thieves, they tried to steal my election in 2018, I stopped them, this is what they do everywhere and we are going to put a stop to this bullsh*t, I can, Trump can't. I'm going to pardon Trump, I'm going to pardon all the J6's, every last one of them, and we are sending all of these wetbacks back to where they f**king came from, F**k Ukraine, F**k McConnel, Yada Yada Ya
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 17, 2024 10:42 AM (XV/Pl)

DeSantis would be in contention if he said the things Vivek has been saying.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (KbCG3)

342 322 I’m kinda resigned to the fact we’re fucked no matter what happens with elections. Society is fucked and beyond repair. Elections don’t fix that.
Posted by: Montec at January 17, 2024 10:42 AM (lX8S5)

Yes, embrace the horror. Not kit up to better protect you and yours.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (N39Ws)

343 The Adventures of Baron Munchausen had a lot of issues, but they way they introduced Venus was pretty good I think. https://youtu.be/1fbD0btGvBE

Link goes to youtube and was from a PG movie but she is naked if covered.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2024 09:47 AM


"Venus. The goddess. My wife."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (jA9ul)

344 And what of Lichtenstein?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



YD is very coy. Plays his cards close to the vest, as it were.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (9yWhg)

345 how can one watch It's a Wonderful Life and not weep?

I put it to you, sir!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It's a Wonderful Life? Bambi!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (FVME7)

346 U.K. Gov't Warns: Be Ready for War With China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea in Five Years



Yeeeeesssss!!!!!
- Lockheed, Boeing

Posted by: Montec at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (lX8S5)

347 345 It's a Wonderful Life? Bambi!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (FVME7)

=======

Bambi had it comin'.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (7EXeB)

348 U.K. Gov't Warns: Be Ready for War With China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea in Five Years

With the current state of our military, this (these) will be the war we'll really lose.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 17, 2024 10:48 AM (N39Ws)

349 U.K. Gov't Warns: Be Ready for War With China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea in Five Years

We're recruiting and mutilating trans folx as fast as we can!

Posted by: General Milley at January 17, 2024 10:48 AM (JCZqz)

350 I'm not going to mention Prometheus now, though. I've considered mentioning Prometheus, but I won't mention Prometheus, keeping this thread Prometheus free.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


So this thread is actually anti-metheus?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:48 AM (9yWhg)

351 And you're a politician, Ronald. It's your job to convince people.
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"Just because he failed miserably in the primary doesn't prove he wouldn't be successful if he were President!" whined Team Ron.

Actually, yes it does. The same skills needed to win the primary are the same skills needed to govern.
But not that that is assured success.
Only that it's a without which, it's impossible--if you can't persuade voters, you sure as hell ain't persuading Congress.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 17, 2024 10:48 AM (PFILT)

352 U.K. Gov't Warns: Be Ready for War With China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea in Five Years

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And what of Lichtenstein?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM


They can wait in line.

Posted by: The Duchy of Fenwick at January 17, 2024 10:48 AM (jA9ul)

353 You just have to accept that most of the Republican electorate is, shall we say, suspicious of the 2020 results. You have to address it. You have to make it part of your platform that "We know what they did to break the rules in 2020, and we will work to make sure that they can't do it again whether that's in Philly or in your precinct in rural Iowa!" (Dave in Fla did an analysis of some rural Iowa counties that showed hinky results that heavily implied cheating extended that far, not enough to change the results, but in a way that implied the amorphous, decentralized reach of the effort.)

"2020 was a normal election and we just need to be better at campaigning" falls on a lot of deaf ears right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Evidence exists in rural Georgia, and other non urban places where investigated like Michigan.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (gvoQe)

354 I'm going to pardon all the J6's, every last one of them, and we are sending all of these wetbacks back to where they f**king came from, F**k Ukraine, F**k McConnel, Yada Yada Ya
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 17, 2024 10:42 AM (XV/Pl)


1. You need a candidate who actually believes this. Not another McStain "I'll build the damn wall!"

2. You need a candidate who doesn't give a single fuck what the pearl-clutching RINOs and MFMs have to say.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (Q0kLU)

355 I honestly don't think Trump considers "what the base wants." He's not a politician. Politicians worry about "the base" so far as the "base" is defined for them by lobbyists and staffers.

Trump isn't concerned about the GOP "base" as defined by lobbyists and staffers.

He sort of understands the day to day struggles that normal people are experiencing. Although I think his primary focus right now is retaining his freedom and wealth. Something that, when you think about it, we're all doing.

Haley, DeSantis, Christi, etc. don't get that point. We're not their "base."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (Q4IgG)

356 I think the only movie that makes me cry is Gallipoli.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (9yWhg)

357 It's a Wonderful Life? Bambi!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (FVME7)

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Bambi had it comin'.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (7EXeB)
***

Hell, if I had named my dog Yeller, he'd of shot himself.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (W/lyH)

358 I can’t watch it’s a wonderful life seriously anymore after seeing that SNL skit with the alternative ending where they beat the shit out of Mr. potter.

Posted by: Montec at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (lX8S5)

359 And what of Lichtenstein?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (FVME7)

Saw a video about that place.
There are like literally only 40 people without jobs there.
Highest per capital income in the world.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (ufFY8)

360 >>@TheChiefNerd
Argentina's Javier Milei Destroys the Narrative of the Elites at Davos: 'Long Live Freedom Damnit!'

I'd love to see Trump have Milei at one of his rallies. Have him talk about life under socialism and how he is bringing back freedom to Argentina.

Watch the left and the media implode.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (ZLI7S)

361 Bambi had it comin'.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (7EXeB)

Was his mom killed on doe day?

Posted by: BignJames at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (AwYPR)

362 So how do FCC broadcast licenses work? If you have one and have demonstrated repeated instances of erasing one political candidate's coverage to aid another, does this go on your permanent record?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (pZ64F)

363 @341

>>DeSantis would be in contention if he said the things Vivek has been saying.

DeSantis goes right up to the line but then goes into Triangulation mode/Politician Mode and then just sounds like he's going through a sub-routine the consultants have DL'd into his brain Matrix Style.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 17, 2024 10:50 AM (XV/Pl)

364 I wonder if DeSantis can see that this is a prettified version of the Left's "Trump voters are stupid."/"Trump voters are a cult.".


Oh, we're doing this?

http://tinyurl.com/3j2udxja

Posted by: Archimedes at January 17, 2024 10:50 AM (CsUN+)

365 And what of Lichtenstein?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024


***
Captain Kirk, quietly: "And what of Lichtenstein . . ."?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:50 AM (J2vNu)

366 353 Evidence exists in rural Georgia, and other non urban places where investigated like Michigan.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (gvoQe)

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The evidence is everywhere, and just accepting it as normal is just not going to get enough animated members of your coalition on your side.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:50 AM (7EXeB)

367 Saw a video about that place.
There are like literally only 40 people without jobs there.
Highest per capital income in the world.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt


Money laundering is good money.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:50 AM (9yWhg)

368 There should be a betting market on which urban vote count center has a water main break in 2024. I’m giving 3:2 odds on Milwaukee to open things up.

Posted by: Montec at January 17, 2024 10:51 AM (lX8S5)

369 >>Evidence exists in rural Georgia, and other non urban places where investigated like Michigan.

The big win against illegal voting in Georgia that happened recently is significant evidence of cheating in Georgia which is why the media ignores it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 10:51 AM (ZLI7S)

370 "Venus. The goddess. My wife."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2024 10:47 AM (jA9ul)

Pfft! My wife is . . . Morgan Fairchild. Yeah, that's the ticket!

Posted by: Tommy Flanagan at January 17, 2024 10:51 AM (4I/2K)

371 337 U.K. Gov't Warns: Be Ready for War With China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea in Five Years

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


Not to worry. The US could have most of their fighting age men by then.

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear. They only have to outrun us - for now at January 17, 2024 10:51 AM (GshMh)

372 DeSantis would be in contention if he said the things Vivek has been saying.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (KbCG3)

Desantis has been trying, I think, to run a campaign that while critical of the left in the harshest terms is accommodating to all the parties on the right. The problem is that the enemy is inside the wire and while trying not to be divisive on the right and satisfy both ace and sponge, he has made no one happy. The true maga base looks at any accommodations with the NTers as prima facie evidence of being a GOPe shill.

It is a tough circle to square, but if you try to satisfy everyone, you often piss off others. Trump does this as well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:51 AM (zZu0s)

373 A while back, someone went through the demo of the people who frequent DU. It's old. These are New Left partisans.

These are 70 year old wannabe hippies who regret a lot in life.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17,

Ducks Unlimited ?

Posted by: JT at January 17, 2024 10:51 AM (T4tVD)

374 369 >>Evidence exists in rural Georgia, and other non urban places where investigated like Michigan.

The big win against illegal voting in Georgia that happened recently is significant evidence of cheating in Georgia which is why the media ignores it.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 10:51 AM (ZLI7S)

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170,000 fake votes.

But we have to ignore that and do everything to appeal to suburban wine moms instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:52 AM (7EXeB)

375 Bambi was a little asshole.

Posted by: Godzilla at January 17, 2024 10:52 AM (ufFY8)

376 I think the only movie that makes me cry is Gallipoli.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024


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I dunno about either movie version, but the end of the novel The Incredible Journey gets me every time. And the Isaac Asimov short story "The Ugly Little Boy."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:52 AM (J2vNu)

377 Bambi was a little asshole.


Yeah, but Jiminy Cricket straightened him out.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:53 AM (9yWhg)

378 DeSantis would be in contention if he said the things Vivek has been saying.

He also wouldn’t have any major donors. I will admit, a candidate who isn’t self-funded is in a tight place today. But if you want to win actual votes, you have to find a way around that. Oddly, that’s one of the things Trump did well (and may still be doing, again, I don’t watch much news): he tricked the media into covering him. The media left was so out of touch they really thought he could only lose if they gave him air time.

They didn’t realize they were the ones who were insane.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 17, 2024 10:53 AM (EXyHK)

379 >>>>Department of Justice Acknowledges Hunter Biden Laptop Content is Legitimate for First Time
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Where do we go to get the 51 IC letter signers stripped of their security clearances. And get our 2020 election back.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 17, 2024 10:53 AM (o5bbN)

380 Argentina isn’t really a socialist country. It’s a poorly run corrupt country that relied way too much on low value exports. And because of that never developed high value industries. You can’t be a rich country just exporting beef and wine.

And govt spending covered that up for decades. But eventually that has to end.

Posted by: Montec at January 17, 2024 10:53 AM (lX8S5)

381 If you eat a whole calumny of apelles you'll get a sick stomach.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 17, 2024 10:54 AM (Y6IkP)

382 It seems immaterially easy to walk into the Republican Party and take the mantle away from those who are currently in possession of it.

So easy, a real estate developer from Queens could do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Because he had his own F/U money negating the big donors of the GOP and he already had name recognition due to years of being in the media spotlight so that he could pivot to discussing issues where he had no track record for better or worse.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2024 10:54 AM (gvoQe)

383 A religion is a religion.

5 weeks ago, a Buffalo fan fell into a pit where their new stadium is being built and the Bills won. The fans have thrown someone in the pit each week since and they haven't lost yet.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 17, 2024 10:55 AM (FVME7)

384 hahahaha

>@charliekirk11

>Jamie Dimon just went on CNBC and said people are voting for Trump because he was right about the economy, immigration, and China:

>"I don't like how Trump said things, but he wasn't wrong about those critical issues. That's why they're voting for him. People should be more respectful of our fellow citizens...I think this negative talk about MAGA will hurt Biden's campaign."

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 10:55 AM (ZLI7S)

385 You can’t be a rich country just exporting beef and wine.


They also export hot women. See the current Queen of the Netherlands.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:55 AM (9yWhg)

386 382 Because he had his own F/U money negating the big donors of the GOP and he already had name recognition due to years of being in the media spotlight so that he could pivot to discussing issues where he had no track record for better or worse.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2024 10:54 AM (gvoQe)

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Nah. A political party won't be so disengaged from their own voters to let that happen. In fact, if they did let it slip slightly, they'd turn around and quickly plug that hole so that that outside influence would end.

That's what a political party would do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:55 AM (7EXeB)

387
To break things up yesterday, I even went so far as to mention Prometheus.

I'm not going to mention Prometheus now, though. I've considered mentioning Prometheus, but I won't mention Prometheus, keeping this thread Prometheus free.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:46 AM (7EXeB)



That's a fine Covenant that you've made with yourself.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2024 10:55 AM (nFnyb)

388 When all this is over, the scoundrels hung, the myriad laws and the bureaucrats who write and enforce them on public work projects, and the people as well -armed as their would-be rulers, our Founders and GOD who inspired them will shout ‘It’s about time!’ How’s that for a long sentence?

Posted by: Eromero at January 17, 2024 10:55 AM (Nq2KV)

389 Again, what we are seeing is simply a replay of 2016, literally all the 16 other GOP knuckleheads had to do was simply understand that Trumps positions were where the base was at and co-opt them or at least pay lip service to them, instead they basically destroyed all of their campaigns by listening to the consultant class instead of the base.
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I still remain dumbfounded at that.
Trump is blowing them up, even Jeb with 100% name recognition and$100 million on one issue.
And every single one of them was like, "hey, let's talk about my corporate tax cut proposal!"

They've had 8 years to out-message Trump and it's still, "Pew-wee--Trump stinks! Let's talk about corporate tax cuts, guys!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (PFILT)

390 Old Yeller...gets me every time. What kind of man wouldn't cry after seeing that!?!?!

Son, Daddy's going to the bathroom for a while to read Big 'Uns.

Posted by: Al Bundy at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (JCZqz)

391 And what of Lichtenstein?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Whichever side survives the first war will be so weak, Lichtenstein will be able to take them.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (o5bbN)

392 Pfft! My wife is . . . Morgan Fairchild. Yeah, that's the ticket!

Fairchild is still pretty GILFy in my book. Pity she's a loony leftie who dated John Kerry.

That's as bad as my Dita von Teese sleeping with Marilyn Manson.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (Q0kLU)

393 Hey, TJM, how did your and Dolley's fasts go yesterday?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (9yWhg)

394
These are 70 year old wannabe hippies who regret a lot in life.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

That would be my ex-husband and his friends. Very Common theme "Well, Biden is a POS, but better than Trump". How so? No answer, just a lot of rage at Trump. What were/are his "crimes"? No answer, just a lot of rage. So I think that you are on target with the regret part that shows itself as impotent rage.

Posted by: Cheri at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (oiNtH)

395 Got a meeting with my doctor this afternoon. We'll find out if my no-junk-food regimen of the lsat three months has helped with the A1C, or if I need to consider this Jardiance stuff. (I hope not.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (J2vNu)

396
>Jamie Dimon just went on CNBC and said people are voting for Trump because he was right about the economy, immigration, and China:

>"I don't like how Trump said things, but he wasn't wrong about those critical issues. That's why they're voting for him. People should be more respectful of our fellow citizens...I think this negative talk about MAGA will hurt Biden's campaign."
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 10:55 AM (ZLI7S)

*eyeroll*

AND WHERE WAS THIS FUCKER WHEN BIDEN WAS DOING HIS NUREMBURG RALLY AFTER THE FUCKING LITERAL REICHSTAG FIRE OF J6?! WHERE THE FUCK IS HE ON THE GUYS THROWN IN LITERAL DAMNATION BECAUSE THEY HAPPENED TO WALK INSIDE DOORS HELPFULLY OPENED BY STATE POLICE?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:57 AM (zZu0s)

397 389 They've had 8 years to out-message Trump and it's still, "Pew-wee--Trump stinks! Let's talk about corporate tax cuts, guys!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (PFILT)

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Because the GOPe is running a con game. It has been running a con for decades, but it became so obvious as to be unignorable in 2016.

But it's literally all they know.

Get the base riled up with corporate tax cuts, empty promises on social issues, and throw negative ads at the Democrat in the final two weeks on TV.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:57 AM (7EXeB)

398 That's as bad as my Dita von Teese sleeping with Marilyn Manson.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


Aisla Fisher with the Borat guy.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:57 AM (9yWhg)

399 393 Hey, TJM, how did your and Dolley's fasts go yesterday?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (9yWhg)

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I finally told her I was doing it at 6. She said I was stupid but sweet and should just eat, so I did.

She's going through the procedure now. She was very much looking forward to lunch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:58 AM (7EXeB)

400
I'm not going to mention Prometheus now, though. I've considered mentioning Prometheus, but I won't mention Prometheus, keeping this thread Prometheus free.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024
*
That's a fine Covenant that you've made with yourself.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2024


***
The concept of this film is Alien to me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:58 AM (J2vNu)

401 Disclose.tv @disclosetv 13m
NEW - Argentina's Milei in Davos: "Collectivist experiments are never the solution to the problems that afflict the citizens of the world. Rather, they are the root cause."

http://tinyurl.com/y4hy8vc5
1:07 minutes; socialism = poverty etc.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:58 AM (2yu8s)

402 Got a meeting with my doctor this afternoon. We'll find out if my no-junk-food regimen of the lsat three months has helped with the A1C, or if I need to consider this Jardiance stuff. (I hope not.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Best of luck, Wolfus. Diabetes sucks.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:58 AM (9yWhg)

403 401 Disclose.tv @disclosetv 13m
NEW - Argentina's Milei in Davos: "Collectivist experiments are never the solution to the problems that afflict the citizens of the world. Rather, they are the root cause."

http://tinyurl.com/y4hy8vc5
1:07 minutes; socialism = poverty etc.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 17, 2024 10:58 AM (2yu8s)

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I want to move to Argentina.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:58 AM (7EXeB)

404 But we have to ignore that and do everything to appeal to suburban wine moms instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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A lot of that is because far too many GOP elites actually despise the people they govern. You see that elitism pop up here and now even here with assertions that people are stupid or ignorant for what they want.

To be successful in the long run in electoral politics, you have to either successfully fake liking people to the extent of being a sociopath or actual like people. Trump appears to actually like people; most GOP pols would rather be like Gov. Kemp flying to Davos for the second straight year so they can rub shoulders with the 'elite' of global society or hobnob at Sea Island enclaves, etc.



Posted by: whig at January 17, 2024 10:59 AM (gvoQe)

405 https://youtu.be/sN3odvIelNw?feature=shared

Bambi is an asshole.
See what I mean?

Posted by: Godzilla at January 17, 2024 10:59 AM (ufFY8)

406 Joe Biden is the head MAGGOT for the Party of Death

Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 10:59 AM (RHGPo)

407 402 Got a meeting with my doctor this afternoon. We'll find out if my no-junk-food regimen of the lsat three months has helped with the A1C, or if I need to consider this Jardiance stuff. (I hope not.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Best of luck, Wolfus. Diabetes sucks.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:58 AM (9yWhg)

Ask wilford brimley. He was 80 years old for 40 years with it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 10:59 AM (zZu0s)

408 I finally told her I was doing it at 6. She said I was stupid but sweet and should just eat, so I did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


You probably got some S&H Good Husband stamps out of it, though, so good for you.

Here's hoping all goes well with her procedure.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 11:00 AM (9yWhg)

409 She's going through the procedure now. She was very much looking forward to lunch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 17, 2024 10:58 AM (7EXeB)

I am looking forward to lunch, just have no idea what I want to get.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 11:00 AM (zZu0s)

410 393 Hey, TJM, how did your and Dolley's fasts go yesterday?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 10:56 AM (9yWhg)

I read that as farts....

Posted by: JT at January 17, 2024 11:00 AM (T4tVD)

411 Joe Biden, the White House, the DOJ/FBI and the Democratic Party have done nothing to make anyone feel other than the election was illegitimate.

Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 11:00 AM (RHGPo)

412 I want to move to Argentina.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Pretty cool place. Spent a few weeks there in the late 00s. But I think it’s also a law that you have to live futbol to be a citizen.

Posted by: Montec at January 17, 2024 11:01 AM (lX8S5)

413 Well, NASDAQ has had a rough day today. It is well past time for that. Maybe Mr. Shitpants should hint at moar free money from the Fed to brighten their prospects.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 17, 2024 11:01 AM (pZ64F)

414 I am looking forward to lunch, just have no idea what I want to get.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 11:00 AM (zZu0s)

Food ?

Posted by: JT at January 17, 2024 11:01 AM (T4tVD)

415 I am looking forward to lunch, just have no idea what I want to get.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


Whatever Skip wants to make for us, I guess.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 11:01 AM (9yWhg)

416 S&H Green Stamps? Boy, that's a shout-out to the past.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 17, 2024 11:01 AM (Q0kLU)

417 Got a meeting with my doctor this afternoon. We'll find out if my no-junk-food regimen of the lsat three months has helped with the A1C, or if I need to consider this Jardiance stuff. (I hope not.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
Best of luck, Wolfus. Diabetes sucks.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024


***
Well, my reading was right on the very edge and might have been an anomaly or recent spike. A1C just reads the average of the last three months before the blood test. I'll continue doing what I've been doing if the new figures show that works.

The hell of it is, I'm not overweight, I exercise regularly, and I have really good (normal, controlled) blood pressure. Grrrr.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 11:01 AM (J2vNu)

418 The concept of this film is Alien to me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 10:58 AM (J2vNu)

I spaced out after the first 30 minutes.

Posted by: and here we go again.... at January 17, 2024 11:02 AM (SNVFk)

419 411 Joe Biden, the White House, the DOJ/FBI and the Democratic Party have done nothing to make anyone feel other than the election was illegitimate.
Posted by: SMOD at January 17, 2024 11:00 AM (RHGPo)

This. They have acted (and still act) as though this was a coup- and our arguments are about Trump being distasteful. Or Desantis being uncharismatic. Or who can pull the most electoral votes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 11:02 AM (zZu0s)

420 Noodus mannicus

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 17, 2024 11:03 AM (J2vNu)

421 The hell of it is, I'm not overweight, I exercise regularly, and I have really good (normal, controlled) blood pressure. Grrrr.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


I lost over 50 pounds, and it still didn't improve things. And now I've got the high blood pressure, too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 17, 2024 11:03 AM (9yWhg)

422 Nood. Minkey.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 17, 2024 11:03 AM (zZu0s)

423 >>A lot of that is because far too many GOP elites actually despise the people they govern. You see that elitism pop up here and now even here with assertions that people are stupid or ignorant for what they want.

Michael Moore of all people made a great speech about why Trump has so much unshakable support and it is precisely because he speaks to the left behind people who the elite despise as they ship jobs overseas and enforce policies that crush the middle class.

Trump actively courts those people and fights for them and he is the first president in a very long time who does that. It ain't rocket surgery. People want their interests looked out for and the one thing they have to help them express their desires even if they are just a nobody is their vote.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 11:03 AM (ZLI7S)

424 Very weird story on a local classic rock radio station news feed . A guy in Putnam county NY was capturing squirrels, spray painting them red and then releasing them around the county. He's been charged with cruelty to animals. I guess there's a fine line between performance art and cruelty

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 17, 2024 11:05 AM (/Mbcg)

425 Hey, Oak Island update. The Garden Shaft is leaking, they saw a right angle in Aladdin's Cave, may have found the original wharf and some lifting gear, and finally, they have opined that the Lot 5 dig represents an even bigger structure then they first thought. Oh, yeah, they think the Lot 5 structure was intentionally buried. Also, they should get some real hotties to do the digging on Lot 5.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 17, 2024 11:06 AM (pZ64F)

426 Desantis has been trying, I think, to run a campaign that while critical of the left in the harshest terms is accommodating to all the parties on the right. The problem is that the enemy is inside the wire and while trying not to be divisive on the right and satisfy both ace and sponge, he has made no one happy. The true maga base looks at any accommodations with the NTers as prima facie evidence of being a GOPe shill.

It is a tough circle to square, but if you try to satisfy everyone, you often piss off others. Trump does this as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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The GOP is effectively brain dead at the national level because what it wants is antithetical to a large majority of its voters. Pretty much it is that the elites that have been doing so well over the last 50-60 years are going to have to take a major hit to their wealth, their status, and their institutions in a shared sacrifice if the public is to sign on to austerity. Instead, the elites intend on applying double secret austerity on the masses through inflation, endless illegals, and lavish government spending on them, their favored institutions, and their cronies.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2024 11:10 AM (gvoQe)

427 I'd love to see Trump have Milei at one of his rallies. Have him talk about life under socialism and how he is bringing back freedom to Argentina.

Watch the left and the media implode.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2024 10:49 AM (ZLI7S)

We Morons are going to have to watch Argentina closely. It might wind up becoming a refuge for us.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2024 11:27 AM (tkR6S)

428 Any time that I harbor doubts about voting for Trump, I'll see something like those ridiculous DU comments. The doubts magically disappear.

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at January 17, 2024 11:36 AM (neLON)

429 CBD should have warned me. Had an appointment this morning.
I loved this painting. Glad you all had a chance to appreciate it.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2024 01:13 PM (t/2Uw)

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A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
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Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
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The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
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