NBC "News:" Some Fear That Trump Would Weaponize the Government Against His Enemies, So They're Planning to Weaponize the Government Against Possible Trump Officials

Oh really? Now that's a bad thing, huh?

Donald Trump is sparking fears among those who understand the inner workings of the Pentagon that he would convert the nonpartisan U.S. military into the muscular arm of his political agenda as he makes comments about dictatorship and devalues the checks and balances that underpin the nation's two-century-old democracy.
A circle of appointees independent of Trump's political operation steered him away from ideas that would have pushed the limits of presidential power in his last term, according to books they've written and testimony given to Congress. Most were gone by the end. In a new term, many former officials worry that Trump would instead surround himself with loyalists unwilling to say no.

Let me know what you think will happen if Congress refuses to fund Biden's war for his funders and paymasters in Urkaine. I think he'll just assert the unilateral authority to give US money to a foreign country. What do you think, NBC "News"?

Trump has raised fresh questions about his intentions if he regains power by putting forward a legal theory that a president would be free to do nearly anything with impunity -- including assassinate political rivals -- so long as Congress can't muster the votes to impeach him and throw him out of office.

This is farcical, as the great Matt Taibbi reported. This claim that "Trump says he can assassinate US citizens and not be prosecuted for it" is entirely a fiction of the leftwing propaganda media.

Reporters keep plunging to bizarre new lows in coverage of Donald Trump. The new jam: his lawyer argued presidents can assassinate rivals. Except he didn't, at all.
Trump's "election interference" criminal case is on hold, pending an appeal heard by a trio of judges this week. Citing a traditional interpretation of Article II of the Constitution, the former president is asserting he must be impeached and convicted in the Senate before he can be criminally tried for any official act.
MSNBC, in an article by former New York County prosecutor Jordan Rubin, unsuprisingly panned the claim in, "Trump's immunity argument highlights the absurdity of his position." The relatively restrained Rubin wrote:

Donald Trump didn't have a strong chance of winning his immunity claim heading into oral arguments Tuesday in Washington, and the argument itself showed why... Judge Florence Pan pointed out that, under Trump's theory, a president could order SEAL Team Six to murder the president's political rivals and, so long as they're not convicted in an impeachment trial, they're off the hook.

That's not really Trump's argument highlighting the absurdity of anything, and more like Judge Pan's doing so, but whatever. Rubin also said Trump is a good bet to lose his argument, adding, "Trump lawyer John Sauer asked the panel to pause any decision against the former president" while "he challenges it on higher appeal."

Trump is arguing that he cannot be prosecuted for any act in furtherance of his constitutional mandate. Guaranteeing the security and accuracy of election results does fall within his mandate. Straight-up murdering people because he's Big Mad does not.

But the propaganda media not only distorts his argument, but then they argue that Trump is claiming "I can whack a guy if I feel like it and it's all legit."

...
Even more incredible was a parade of reports appearing to claim Trump himself argued the "SEAL Team Six" idea. "Sen. Schatz warns of 'new turn' for Trump with 'Seal Team 6' claim," was the header for a Chris Hayes interview of Hawaii Senator Brian Schatz. Schatz said it was "one thing" when Trump was "essentially engaging in stochastic terrorism," but here "the official position of Trump's lawyers is going to be that he could order a murder of his political rivals using SEAL Team 6."
Wow. Really? Yes, according to Newsweek, which wrote in its opening paragraph:

Democratic Senator Brian Schatz has claimed "American democracy is at stake" in the upcoming presidential election after Donald Trump's attorney argued presidential immunity would extend to political assassinations during a Washington, D.C. court case.
There's a long list of similar headlines. The Hill: "Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity." Mediaite: "Trump Lawyer Argues Presidents CAN Order Seal Team 6 To Assassinate Rivals In Stunning Appeals Courtroom Exchange." The Bulwark, semi-humorously: "Trump's Lawyers Argue Biden Can Assassinate Him."
Maryland's Jamie Raskin, gaining fast in the always-heated race for a rep as the dumbest current member of congress, fretted to fellow gentleman-scholar Wolf Blitzer on CNN:

As a member of Congress, my first thought was, well, then if the president is going to order out for the assassination of his political rivals, and say there's a narrow margin in the Senate of a two or three vote in the opposition party, what's to keep him from murdering members of the Senate to make sure that he doesn't get convicted there in order to deny a two-thirds majority?

See Taibbi for reportage on what really happened. This leftwing judge kept asserting that Trump's theory would mean that that he can whack anyone he likes, and his team kept saying, "No, it doesn't mean that at all."

And the media's take? "Trump argues he should be allowed to kill people like fucking Jason Vorhees at summer camp."

Back to NBC "News:"

Now, bracing for Trump's potential return, a loose-knit network of public interest groups and lawmakers is quietly devising plans to try to foil any efforts to expand presidential power, which could include pressuring the military to cater to his political needs.

Oh you mean an extraconstitutional, election-"fortifying" unelected "resistance" is organizing to stop a duly-elected president from executing the office to which he was fairly elected by the American people?

I mean, you're doing that... again?

The plan includes threats to (checks notes).. use the power of the state to harass and prosecute Trump's appointees.

Wow, we sure don't want Trump using the power of the state to harass and prosecute his enemies!

Those taking part in the effort told NBC News they are studying Trump's past actions and 2024 policy positions so that they will be ready if he wins in November. That involves preparing to take legal action and send letters to Trump appointees spelling out consequences they'd face if they undermine constitutional norms.

1, Trump is bad because he might prosecute political enemies

2, We're going to keep Trump in line by threatening to prosecute his political allies

Democracy cannot survive with half of the country insisting on the right to destroy anyone who disagrees with them.

Democracy is already dead, thanks to the left.

A poll finds the public split on whether Biden's disastrous economy or "protecting democracy" is the more important issue.

Bear in mind, Biden voters have literally no positive reasons to vote for this catastrophic stroke patient except for protecting abortion-on-demand and "protecting democracy." So obviously all Democrats will claim that "protecting democracy" is super-important.

That said, the fact that 50% of likely voters say that "protecting democracy" i more important is a bad sign for Trump. That means that 50% of the public is announcing they'll vote for Biden, because obviously no one but Biden voters would say that this is the more important imperative.

Likely voters across the political aisle diverge on whether having a strong economy or functioning democracy is a bigger concern over the next few years, according to a new CBS/YouGov poll.
Fifty percent of the total likely voters polled said having a strong economy is the higher concern, while the other half of respondents said having a functioning democracy was the bigger concern.

Update: Commenters are saying that that 50% includes Republicans as well, who might have their own (justified) concerns about the left destroying democracy itself.

Eric Blade read further into the article than I did -- whoops -- and yes, more than one third of Republicans say defending democracy is more important than the economy.

Broken down by party identification, 64 percent of Democratic voters said having a functioning democracy as a higher concern, and 36 percent listed having a strong economy as the bigger concern. Among Republican voters, 35 percent said a functioning democracy was a greater concern while 65 percent said a strong economy was more of a concern.

Okay, well, my interpretation of the 50% as being all (or nearly all) likely Biden voters is just wrong, then.

Like Martin Luther King Jr. before me, I have erred and been made to pay dearly for my sins by racists (you).

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:32 PM

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1 steppin' lightly

Posted by: DanMan at January 15, 2024 03:31 PM (8uzBS)

2 I wouldn't vote for him if he decided to not weaponize the government. How about starting to toss leftists into the gulag with the J6 "insurrectionists."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 15, 2024 03:32 PM (/bnxD)

3 Want: An army of giant Trump robots crushing them.
Settle: Them having orange nightmares.
Get: 4 more years of Stolen Joepalooza.

Posted by: DaveA at January 15, 2024 03:33 PM (FhXTo)

4 Projection is not a river in Egypt.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at January 15, 2024 03:34 PM (as3uC)

5 As if they needed to put it in writing...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2024 03:35 PM (MeG8a)

6 Judge Florence Pan pointed out that, under Trump's theory, a president could order SEAL Team Six to murder the president's political rivals

Yeah, it's not like Obama ordered the murder of American citizens abroad by drone without a trial or anything.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 15, 2024 03:36 PM (YAtuc)

7 Sorry Dems, you can't uncross that Rubicon.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 15, 2024 03:37 PM (qPw5n)

8 standard leftist thinking: we can only protect the people's democracy by punishing our opponents.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 15, 2024 03:37 PM (B1FKF)

9 The system works. The Progressives know it and know justice may scoop them up. Watch for leaks, exposés, dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at January 15, 2024 03:37 PM (as3uC)

10 PROJECTION
Is a helluva drug!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2024 03:37 PM (Hkcdp)

11 Third time today I read the content only to stare at an empty comment section when I reached the bottom.

Posted by: Beartooth at January 15, 2024 03:37 PM (5FnZt)

12 We must save democracy by destroying democracy.
- The Left

Posted by: Montec at January 15, 2024 03:37 PM (lNMBb)

13 Yeah, it's not like Obama ordered the murder of American citizens abroad by drone without a trial or anything.

Well, that was (D)ifferent.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 15, 2024 03:37 PM (dZVON)

14 Want: An army of giant Trump robots crushing them.

Settle: Them having orange nightmares.
Get: 4 more years of Stolen Joepalooza.
Posted by: DaveA at January 15, 2024 03:33 PM (FhXTo)

So that giant robot thing? You get my vote for VP Dave.

Posted by: And here we go at January 15, 2024 03:37 PM (SNVFk)

15 Worked for Barry, didn't it?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at January 15, 2024 03:38 PM (as3uC)

16 Judge Florence Pan pointed out that, under Trump's theory, a president could order SEAL Team Six to murder the president's political rivals

What theory would that be?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 03:38 PM (yyfQG)

17 Fifty percent of the total likely voters polled said having a strong economy is the higher concern, while the other half of respondents said having a functioning democracy was the bigger concern.
_____

Define 'funtioning democracy'. I'm pretty sure my definition doesn't match with the left's definition.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 15, 2024 03:38 PM (fs1hN)

18 (Insert meme here)

Your terms are acceptable

Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2024 03:38 PM (Hkcdp)

19 As if they needed to put it in writing...

They're signaling to their political allies that they will launch a military coup rather than let Trump take power after being elected.

But just remember, it's Trump that is the insurrectionist.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 15, 2024 03:39 PM (YAtuc)

20 Ok. . . . .
So, we go to war . . . . . .

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat Bastards & MSM InfoHarlots at January 15, 2024 03:39 PM (5DfsO)

21 Leftist projection toward the whole conservative populace. They are telling us exactly what they'll do all of us if they regain full power in DC.

Pray for conservative resistance from red states. The left wants war and the power to kill us.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2024 03:40 PM (BdMk6)

22 They're signaling to their political allies that they will launch a military coup rather than let Trump take power after being elected.

But just remember, it's Trump that is the insurrectionist.
_______

Trump started it. You know he said 'grab 'em by the pussy', right?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 15, 2024 03:40 PM (fs1hN)

23 So They're Planning to Weaponize the Government Against Possible Trump Officials
—Disinformation Expert Ace
Oh really? Now that's a bad thing, huh?

----

I got nuthin' to add.

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 15, 2024 03:40 PM (/zfb8)

24 Obviously a democracy is just rubber stamping the same party to be elected over in meaningless elections as they further consolidate power across the government, military, media, and every other sector of life until you live in a de facto 1 party state.

Power peacefully changing hands between parties and candidates with differing agendas as the result of fair and honest elections is not that. It's fascism, or something.

Posted by: brak at January 15, 2024 03:41 PM (AR07F)

25 Bill Kristol called this seven years ago:

"Obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics. But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state."
7:36 AM · Feb 14, 2017

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 15, 2024 03:42 PM (YAtuc)

26 I get the distinct feeling this is yet another method of normalizing the idea that Trump must be stopped by any means necessary.

Like, “hey, he was planning on doing it to our guys, so someone had to take him out fist, amirite?”

Dark, manipulative sh#t right here.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2024 03:42 PM (Hkcdp)

27 These bastards project so hard, IMAX wants to cut a deal with them.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 15, 2024 03:43 PM (eh1/Q)

28 Nothing screams "democracy" like keeping your rivals, Trump and Kennedy off the ballot, and choosing the fake candidate, Haley, because Murdoch's cash couldn't launch Mo-Ron.

Posted by: GOP sux at January 15, 2024 03:43 PM (Zzbjj)

29 They're signaling to their political allies that they will launch a military coup rather than let Trump take power after being elected.

They will have to do it with their army of military-aged illegals and hope the military- which is not under their control- stands by and watches.

Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2024 03:43 PM (K6QwJ)

30 I get the distinct feeling this is yet another method of normalizing the idea that Trump must be stopped by any means necessary.

Which is why I can't believe that Trump would consider Nikki Haley as his VP candidate for a second.

If Trump/Haley wins, they'll kill Trump to get Haley into power.

Guaranteed.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 15, 2024 03:44 PM (YAtuc)

31 I'm more concerned that Mother Nature has weaponized my driveway against my cardiovascular system.

Priorites, people!!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 15, 2024 03:46 PM (/HDaX)

32 and hope the military- which is not under their control

The senior leadership of the military is under their control.

The question whether the lower ranks would execute the orders that the senior officers give.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 15, 2024 03:46 PM (YAtuc)

33 This is completely insane

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2024 03:46 PM (n2vyf)

34 >>> I'm more concerned that Mother Nature has weaponized my driveway against my cardiovascular system.

ugh, every time I have to shovel snow I immediately start thinking that I'm going to have a heart attack.

And once you start thinking that, your heart rate zooms up (excess anxiety does that) and then you're sure you're gonna have a heart attack.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:47 PM (KRtlO)

35 PLANNING ON WEAPONIZING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP AGAIN.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 15, 2024 03:47 PM (17s+e)

36 Good lord these people are straight up evil.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (VMFAF)

37 it took me years to realize my "heart palpitations" were just due to my anxiety about my heart causing an adrenaline spike.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (KRtlO)

38 They're not even hiding it

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (n2vyf)

39 And once you start thinking that, your heart rate zooms up (excess anxiety does that) and then you're sure you're gonna have a heart attack.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:47 PM (KRtlO)

I backstopped that concern by bringing my wife out to participate in her GAINZZ.

Well that, and we shoveled now while it's still snowing so that we don't die shoveling it tomorrow.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (/HDaX)

40 >>> I'm more concerned that Mother Nature has weaponized my driveway against my cardiovascular system.

Priorites, people!!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy

Philly is getting snow tomorrow. Allegedly. We haven't had a decent snow for a few years now. I blame Biden

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (zgZzy)

41 House GOP needs to subpoena everyone named in this article to explain what their plans are if Trump is elected.

The excuse they will use for insubordination is "we swear an oath to The Constitution, not the president, blah blah blah"

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (V6W16)

42 concerned that Mother Nature has weaponized my driveway against my cardiovascular system.

ugh, every time I have to shovel snow I immediately start thinking that I'm going to have a heart attack.

And once you start thinking that, your heart rate zooms up (excess anxiety does that) and then you're sure you're gonna have a heart attack.

Posted by: ace

It’s why the good lord created snow blowers.

Posted by: Montec at January 15, 2024 03:49 PM (lNMBb)

43 37 it took me years to realize my "heart palpitations" were just due to my anxiety about my heart causing an adrenaline spike.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (KRtlO)

Yup.. A vicious cycle

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2024 03:49 PM (n2vyf)

44 So basically you're afraid that he will do what you lot of turds are doing. To quote Elon "Go Fuck Yourselves".

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at January 15, 2024 03:50 PM (CecP5)

45 ugh, every time I have to shovel snow I immediately start thinking that I'm going to have a heart attack.

I use a propane torch. Just gotta be careful around the cars.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 15, 2024 03:50 PM (dZVON)

46 It’s why the good lord created snow blowers.
Posted by: Montec a

You rang?
-Hunter Biden

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 15, 2024 03:50 PM (MGB5H)

47 oh here's another thing: I used to have intercostal muscle spasms/pain. Those are just the muscles between your ribs.

You know -- like around your heart.

But for a couple of years I kept feeling these twinges of pain in my chest and immediately went into Fred Sanford conniptions.

Once I realized my heart was fine, I stopped even *feeling* intercostal muscle twinges. I just had hypervigilance about it. Once I stopped being hypervigilant, I stopped even feeling these spasms.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:50 PM (KRtlO)

48 Nancy wants to be Speaker so she can rip up Trump's SOTU speech and then impeach him again.
And drink on government aircraft.

Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2024 03:50 PM (OUiUM)

49 >>>Yup.. A vicious cycle

yup!

meditation actually does help. That Robot Turning Itself Off exercise helps a lot.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:51 PM (KRtlO)

50 it took me years to realize my "heart palpitations" were just due to my anxiety about my heart causing an adrenaline spike.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (KRtlO)

That, OTOH, is a concern of mine. I toss the occasional bigeminal PVC under exertion but when I get stressed, they come fast and furiously, even at rest. My new doctor here got a strip chart full of them on my first visit.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 15, 2024 03:51 PM (/HDaX)

51 "he would convert the nonpartisan U.S. military"

If you think Gen. Milley and the current Sec Def are "nonpartisan" you are frankly and imbecile.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 15, 2024 03:51 PM (i7Q7S)

52 They're not even hiding it
Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (n2vyf)

Nope. They aren't. It shows they think they have the upper hand. And they might......for now.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2024 03:52 PM (BdMk6)

53 >>>I backstopped that concern by bringing my wife out to participate in her GAINZZ.
Well that, and we shoveled now while it's still snowing so that we don't die shoveling it tomorrow.

nice, you wife that problem up

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:52 PM (KRtlO)

54 “Protecting Democracy” or however they titled it is my top issue too. That begins with clean elections.

Posted by: Dexter Keys at January 15, 2024 03:52 PM (2qY+0)

55 Didn't The One brag that he was good at killing people. (Really, that meant getting heterosexuals in uniform to kill people, but to Barack, it's all fine.)

Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 03:52 PM (1bNHn)

56 "And once you start thinking that, your heart rate zooms up (excess anxiety does that) and then you're sure you're gonna have a heart attack."

We've had two, 2'+ snow dumps this year.
I shovel the driveway in 3 sections separately to take a break and not heart attack myself.
It's not a big driveway but enough to make it a pita.
That sh*t is hard work.
Getting a snowblower next year.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at January 15, 2024 03:52 PM (VMFAF)

57 If you think Gen. Milley and the current Sec Def are "nonpartisan" you are frankly and imbecile.
Posted by: Jay in PA

You can extend that to very single flag rank courtesy of the lightbringer.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 15, 2024 03:52 PM (MGB5H)

58 They say they fear weaponize, what they mean is fear their crimes will be exposed and they'll be held accountable.

To-ma-to/to-mah-to

Posted by: Bete at January 15, 2024 03:52 PM (LX4y3)

59 >>>It's not a big driveway but enough to make it a pita.
That sh*t is hard work.
Getting a snowblower next year.

The Nate Bergatze bit about digging a hole is on-point.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:53 PM (KRtlO)

60 #47

The RN told me those spasms are a result of oxygen deprivation caused by the pulmonary embolism.

I barely lived.

Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2024 03:53 PM (OUiUM)

61 Nazi Pelosi should quaff a gallon of windshield washer fluid.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 03:53 PM (yyfQG)

62 It's been snowing all day in Northern Virginia. Not supposed to stop until tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 15, 2024 03:53 PM (9yWhg)

63 and devalues the checks and balances that underpin the nation's two-century-old democracy.

Allowing you to vote for Trump is a threat to Our Democracy™!

Posted by: DNC HQ at January 15, 2024 03:53 PM (oOgyw)

64 Trump is not going to turn the army on the citizenry. Anyone claiming so is an idiot.

Also:

DENVER (KDVR) — On Monday morning, it was colder in Denver than in Antarctica, according to National Weather Service and the United States Antarctic Program (USAP) data.

Posted by: Don Black at January 15, 2024 03:53 PM (geLO8)

65 >>>The RN told me those spasms are a result of oxygen deprivation caused by the pulmonary embolism.
I barely lived.

wait really?

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:53 PM (KRtlO)

66 "Joe Biden isn't using the Levers of Governmental Power to attack his Political enemies."

"...and here's why it's a good thing that he is."

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 03:53 PM (RVloE)

67 Didn't Black Jesus drone some US citizens?

When does his trial begin?

Posted by: Being that we're concerned about killing Americans now. at January 15, 2024 03:54 PM (pjs7m)

68 Some say we must preserve our democracy while others insist we must burn Democrats in a pit filled with gasoline.

I reject this as a false choice.

Posted by: Jack Package at January 15, 2024 03:54 PM (8LP6B)

69 Yet another projection from the left by accusing others of doing what they're already doing tenfold.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 15, 2024 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

70 It’s the judge who brought up that absurd interpretation of Trump’s argument regard to Presidential immunity for official acts granted under the Constitution.

The judge is misapplying the Reductio Ad Absurdum argument.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 03:55 PM (MNhXM)

71 >>>Some Fear That Trump Would Weaponize the Government Against His Enemies, So They're Planning to Weaponize the Government Against Possible Trump Officials

=======

If I've learned nothing else since 2016, is always projection with these guys.

Posted by: Turn 2 at January 15, 2024 03:55 PM (JfxgE)

72 it was colder in Denver than in Antarctica

Well, it is summer down there...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 15, 2024 03:55 PM (9yWhg)

73 Salt the driveway, give it time to work..

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2024 03:55 PM (PCK5/)

74 73 Salt the driveway, give it time to work..
Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2024 03:55 PM (PCK5/)

Move to Florida ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (n2vyf)

75 That said, the fact that 50% of likely voters say that "protecting democracy" i more important is a bad sign for Trump. That means that 50% of the public is announcing they'll vote for Biden, because obviously no one but Biden voters would say that this is the more important imperative.

Eh, I don't agree with that. The question is poorly worded, since many on the right think protecting democracy means getting the fraud out of the voting process.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (CsUN+)

76 NBC is holding up a mirror 🪞 seeing their reflection and blaming it on us

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (rRjGT)

77 We just need better candidates you guyz!!!

Posted by: Hi my name is Nikki, and I will pole dance for the presidency at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (66xEJ)

78 Ha Taiwan just gave China a Big F-you last week for trying these very same tactics before electing a conservative hard liner as El Presidente!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (9L4BR)

79 Trump could order the Perfumed Princes to new duty stations like Thule or Minot or Elmandorf and even the South Pole and restaff with others who actually take lawful orders.

Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (OUiUM)

80 Fortunately, we don't get the heavy wet snow out here.

So, it's less shoveling and more pushing with a half-moon shaped shovel. Like plowing, but on foot.

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (RVloE)

81 Eh, I don't agree with that. The question is poorly worded, since many on the right think protecting democracy means getting the fraud out of the voting process.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (CsUN+)

Exactly

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (n2vyf)

82 We get threats like these and we're just into the first month of the election year. 2024 is going to be a very dark year. Be prepared.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (BdMk6)

83 Democracy cannot survive with half of the country insisting on the right to destroy anyone who disagrees with them.
_______

No, that's only a problem if the wrong half so insists. The Deplorables. If the Left does, it's all good.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (1bNHn)

84 >>>70 It’s the judge who brought up that absurd interpretation of Trump’s argument regard to Presidential immunity for official acts granted under the Constitution.
The judge is misapplying the Reductio Ad Absurdum argument.

It's a standard legal thing where you say "Well if we accept your rule then it has this parade of horribles that ensues."

But... well, Trump's team argued against that, and it was particularly weak in the first place, and... I've never see the propaganda media asserting that someone "argued" for this parade of horribles before. I.e., they were the ones denying the parade of horribles, but the media is reporting "Trump wants parade of horribles."

The media has just completely given up any semblance of honesty. It's just nonstop propaganda now.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (KRtlO)

85 I don't know. I would say having a functioning democracy is more important, and the best way to assure that is to elect Trump.

So I am not sure you can read that question in the way Ace implies. You have to ignore the Deep State controlling everything and rigged election issues to arrive at the conclusion. And many on the right consider those the biggest issues.

Posted by: Thatch at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (GcXjs)

86 Salt the driveway, give it time to work..
Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2024 03:55 PM (PCK5/)

Just make sure you channel AllenG prior for full effectiveness.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (Zz0t1)

87 Skip at January 15, 2024 03:56

Are ya done work ?

Didja get warm ?

Posted by: JT at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (T4tVD)

88 As if Trump could weaponize the government against anyone, lol.

They aren't worried about that shit.

They're worried about Trump's voters weaponizing themselves. Period, end of story. All of their bizarre behavior derives from that fear. It's plain as day.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2024 03:58 PM (0FoWg)

89 Didn't Black Jesus drone some US citizens?

When does his trial begin?

That's why I'm hoping that Trump loses the immunity trial, Br'er Rabbit-style.

Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2024 03:58 PM (t7wVu)

90 Has anyone said "vote harder, guys" yet?

Posted by: nckate at January 15, 2024 03:58 PM (EPm6B)

91 If Trump was so dangerous to democracy, wouldn't he be in power right now? I'm not smart enough to understand.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 03:58 PM (yyfQG)

92 Knew a guy who shoveled his driveway with a quarter inch piece of plywood… worked like a charm…

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2024 03:58 PM (PCK5/)

93 68 Some say we must preserve our democracy while others insist we must burn Democrats in a pit filled with gasoline.

That’s ridiculous. The pit would need to be maybe 10% full.

Posted by: Kratwurst at January 15, 2024 03:58 PM (VflO4)

94 That said, the fact that 50% of likely voters say that "protecting democracy" i more important is a bad sign for Trump.
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But how many of that 50% are conservatives who see what the lefties are doing? It might not be that bad a sign. Probably is, but might not be.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 03:58 PM (1bNHn)

95 >>>Eh, I don't agree with that. The question is poorly worded, since many on the right think protecting democracy means getting the fraud out of the voting process.

I think the left has made it plain what is meant these days when we speak of "protecting democracy." A small number of people might think about vote security, but the overwhelming majority know this is just the Democrat 2024 platform.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:59 PM (KRtlO)

96 The left has got this sh*t wired six ways to Sunday.

Regardless how one feels about Trump, the lefts reaction to him has put us on a glide path to dissolution.

I blame the end of guitar based rock music and the rise of Trap Beat Infused Mumble Rap as a zeitgeist exemplar, for the downfall of America.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 15, 2024 03:59 PM (XV/Pl)

97 they just mean "protecting my high RE net worth/NGO money/fake job/govt job/govt-tangential job/welfare/etc" when they say "protecting democracy." it's a territorial-protection play, and yes its half or more of the country now, dependent on govt policies to live and prosper.

plus the other aspect:

I used to tell you guys that the largest most powerful gen in American history was going to try to take the country into the grave with them. well this is the form that is apparently going to take.

hang on to your poles (heh) and stay upright, and everything will be ok in a decade or so?

Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at January 15, 2024 03:59 PM (AcWfM)

98 We think perhaps someone who has screaming orgasms with large women shouldn't be President Of The United States.

Posted by: NBC News at January 15, 2024 03:59 PM (R/m4+)

99
Remember when many people thought Trump was a Liberal, but didn't care because he was the weapon that was needed against the Deep State?

So then who cares if Trump doesn't affirm the conservative position about children and trannies?
It's a State issue, not a Federal issue anyway.

What's important is that Trump is the most likely candidate to be a Steadfast Enemy of the Deep State and he is going to want to get some pay-back.

America is pining for the fiords, might as well sic Trump on the Deep State 'cause nobody else is going to be the weapon that you need.

Posted by: Speller at January 15, 2024 03:59 PM (pSotA)

100 Has anyone said "vote harder, guys" yet?

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Let me cover a bunch of things right now !

-Vote harder, guys !
-Birdbath status?
-She is a 1 !

Posted by: runner at January 15, 2024 04:00 PM (V13WU)

101 >>>But how many of that 50% are conservatives who see what the lefties are doing? It might not be that bad a sign. Probably is, but might not be.

i think when there's a simple interpretation and a tricky clever interpretation, the simple interpretation is 98% right, particularly when the country is so polarized and partisan. People get that "protecting democracy" really just means "stopping trump." The number of people who don't get this is pretty small.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 04:00 PM (KRtlO)

102 >>>The RN told me those spasms are a result of oxygen deprivation caused by the pulmonary embolism.
I barely lived.

wait really?
Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:53
****
Yes. For two days on a weekend. Monday went to ER because short of breath
Couldn't understand what was happening. PE that afternoon. Because clots were gathering in lungs.

Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2024 04:00 PM (OUiUM)

103 11 Third time today I read the content only to stare at an empty comment section when I reached the bottom.

Posted by: Beartooth at January 15, 2024 03:37 PM (5FnZt)

everybody's out there having too much fun celebrating MLK Jr. Day

Posted by: kallisto at January 15, 2024 04:00 PM (QjGT0)

104 Yeah, it's not like Obama ordered the murder of American citizens abroad by drone without a trial or anything.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 15, 2024 03:36 PM (YAtuc)

And he certainly didn't have someone take out an unloyal cook set to publish a book exposing obumvles for being terrible and married to a wookie of the swinging package persuasion.

Posted by: Bete at January 15, 2024 04:00 PM (LX4y3)

105 75 That said, the fact that 50% of likely voters say that "protecting democracy" i more important is a bad sign for Trump. That means that 50% of the public is announcing they'll vote for Biden, because obviously no one but Biden voters would say that this is the more important imperative.

Eh, I don't agree with that. The question is poorly worded, since many on the right think protecting democracy means getting the fraud out of the voting process.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (CsUN+)
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Yea. The poll question seemed oddly worded -- "functioning democracy" -- and the fact that 35 percent of Republican voters thought a functioning democracy was more important that the economy suggests they thought the question was more geared toward cleaning up fraud.

Posted by: Elric Blade at January 15, 2024 04:01 PM (iFTx/)

106 If Trump was so dangerous to democracy, wouldn't he be in power right now? I'm not smart enough to understand.

You clearly don't understand that the people opposed to Trump are righteous and true, and standing atop the barricades singing a mashup of the Marseillaise and Do You Hear the People Sing. They're the ones stopping him.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 04:01 PM (CsUN+)

107 30 I get the distinct feeling this is yet another method of normalizing the idea that Trump must be stopped by any means necessary.

Which is why I can't believe that Trump would consider Nikki Haley as his VP candidate for a second.

If Trump/Haley wins, they'll kill Trump to get Haley into power.

Guaranteed.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 15, 2024 03:44 PM (YAtuc)
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Good point. It does raise the question who would be a wise Veep for Trump, to avoid that. Alex Jones, maybe?

Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 04:01 PM (1bNHn)

108 >>Knew a guy who shoveled his driveway with a quarter inch piece of plywood… worked like a charm…

Like a full sheet, lengthwise?

That could work, but if you catch and edge just right, you are gonna take out a tooth or two.

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 04:02 PM (RVloE)

109 Just make sure you channel AllenG prior for full effectiveness.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (Zz0t1)

(goes outside to destroy driveway)

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 15, 2024 04:02 PM (/HDaX)

110 Wait until Sundowner tosses Taiwan under the bus.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2024 04:02 PM (fwDg9)

111 The narrative on the economy is that they've just not done a good enough job convincing the American people how great Biden has done with the economy.

It's our fault, you see. We refuse to see it.

They're going to spend the next 10 months making sure we do.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2024 04:03 PM (thd9p)

112 108 >>Knew a guy who shoveled his driveway with a quarter inch piece of plywood… worked like a charm…

Like a full sheet, lengthwise?

That could work, but if you catch and edge just right, you are gonna take out a tooth or two.
Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 04:02 PM (RVloE)

That is what he did… could use it standing up… if the snow was really deep, he just made a couple of passes…

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2024 04:03 PM (PCK5/)

113 Late to the party - from previous thread:

9 Where is the fetus going to gestate? In a box?

Posted by: Reggie PFJ at January 15, 2024 02:43 PM (4I/2K)
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In the colon and the baby will be a colonizer!

Posted by: Ciampino - more ludicrous at January 15, 2024 04:03 PM (qfLjt)

114 They DID weaponize government against Trump.

The anti-Constitutional plot to withhold the full vesting of executive power called #Resistance.

They really expect their gullible to believe its something they have only just thought of?

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:04 PM (OaZlZ)

115 "Bear in mind, Biden voters have literally no positive reasons to vote for this catastrophic stroke patient except for protecting abortion-on-demand and "protecting democracy." So obviously all Democrats will claim that "protecting democracy" is super-important."

ace, the Dems are playing "operation chaos" noises to nominate Nikki instead of Trump, and I think this is a calculated risk for them.
the heart of the Dem voters are those people who would never ever ever ever ever vote for any icky horrible raciss republican because they are icky and horrible and rayciss just like Nixon and Regan. However if they are encouraged to vote for Nikky, then there is no reason for them to vote for Biden, since that cherry got popped finally.

The horror of the dem voters thinking en-mass "hold on, let me think on this for a second"

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2024 04:04 PM (D7oie)

116 >>That is what he did…

That is how we would clean a new roof of snow before we put underlayment and shingle down.

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 04:04 PM (RVloE)

117 i think when there's a simple interpretation and a tricky clever interpretation, the simple interpretation is 98% right, particularly when the country is so polarized and partisan. People get that "protecting democracy" really just means "stopping trump." The number of people who don't get this is pretty small.

Hey everybody, Ace thinks I'm clever.
*buffs nails*

Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 04:04 PM (CsUN+)

118 I druther have a functioning republic than a functioning democracy.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (weeaD)

119 the heart/pulmonary/etc thing is why I love my Apple Watch

the new one will monitor O2 levels too

which is nice

knowing my heart rhythm at a glance helps with my anxiety (I guess that sounds weird)

Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (AcWfM)

120 you know , when Pelosi goes around saying things like Trump can't win the presidency again - "Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) explains to CNN's Phil Mattingly why she thinks it's "impossible" for former President Donald Trump to win the presidency again" , make me wonder what the fk is in the works that we haven't seen yet.

And... houthi bandits just struck a US ship. Congrats Austin , your awesome strategy is bearing fruit !

Posted by: runner at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (V13WU)

121 Someone should probably have told Vivek's people that you only want dead voters, not dead ballot petition signers:

https://t.ly/c8VXj

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (dZVON)

122 >>Judge Florence Pan pointed out that, under Trump's theory, a president could order SEAL Team Six to murder the president's political rivals

I listened to the court audio during the questioning. That was just one of the idiotic things said during the questioning.

It's clear that Trump is going to have to go to the SC with this one, two judges appointed by Biden, on by GHW Bush and all 3 women are not going to give Trump the win in DC.

I wonder if Biden has really thought this one through. If they trash presidential immunity no reason Biden can't be brought up on charges for willfully ignoring immigration law.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (ZLI7S)

123 >>> Judge Florence Pan pointed out that, under Trump's theory, a president could order SEAL Team Six to murder the president's political rivals

Is the judge implying that it would OK to use any other means for a president to murder their political rivals other than SEAL Team Six?

Maybe use SEAL Team Six on anybody so long as they are not 'political rivals'?

How about using them politically so long as it is not a 'rival'?
Even if they think they are a 'rival'?

How about calling out National Guard, or any other creature of the gov, with guns and the tacit threat to kill those who don't comply?

How about any national armed police force... can the President's subordinates use lethal means to force compliance.

Look, Lady your question is as loaded as, "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"and exposes YOUR political bias - killing people, lot's of people, is in the job description.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (cOq4q)

124 The number of people who don't get this is pretty small.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 04:00 PM (KRtlO)

Especially when DoJ keeps throwing them in jail.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (thd9p)

125 That said, the fact that 50% of likely voters say that "protecting democracy" i more important is a bad sign for Trump. That means that 50% of the public is announcing they'll vote for Biden, because obviously no one but Biden voters would say that this is the more important imperative.

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Depends on what the poll respondents meant by protecting democracy. Those are two very different concepts depending on whether you are a Democrat or a Republican.

Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (3JfbU)

126 78 Ha Taiwan just gave China a Big F-you last week for trying these very same tactics before electing a conservative hard liner as El Presidente!
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (9L4BR)

And sadly the deep state is going to go all election of 2020 on them as well.

Posted by: Bete at January 15, 2024 04:06 PM (LX4y3)

127
Good point. It does raise the question who would be a wise Veep for Trump, to avoid that. Alex Jones, maybe?
Posted by: Eeyore

/sarc
2nd look at Kamala for another term as veep?
\sarc

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2024 04:06 PM (3CCua)

128 Bear in mind, Biden voters have literally no positive reasons to vote for this catastrophic stroke patient except for protecting abortion-on-demand and "protecting democracy."

This is an important point, I am sure of it. It's one of those things why people here are different than people "there".

You folks look at everything crumbling, in terms of economics and personal suffering and you remain incredulous as to why anyone would want more of it ?

I can't urge you enough, look at this in terms of religion. Do you think a Fen or a SMH would ever look a personal suffering and ever question her faith ? No, they would not. This world, to them, is an audition for the next.

Now apply that attitude to politics at large. And you have the Modern Left.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:06 PM (5cfJ1)

129 what legal maneuver they are cooking up , that will take him off the ballot in half a dozen sates is in the works, and will be too late to challenge before November

Posted by: runner at January 15, 2024 04:06 PM (V13WU)

130
"Voters"
That's cute.

Posted by: Dominion Systems at January 15, 2024 04:06 PM (NBVIP)

131 >>>
Yea. The poll question seemed oddly worded -- "functioning democracy" -- and the fact that 35 percent of Republican voters thought a functioning democracy was more important that the economy suggests they thought the question was more geared toward cleaning up fraud.

wait, 35% of Republicans said "protecting democracy" was more important?

Maybe I was wrong. I assume there are 15% nevertrumpers who agree with the liberals (because they are liberals) but 35% is very high

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 04:07 PM (KRtlO)

132 I wonder if Biden has really thought this one through.

Oh, I know, I know, call on me!
*vigorously thrusts hand skyward*

Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 04:07 PM (CsUN+)

133 Trump started it. You know he said 'grab 'em by the pussy', right?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 15, 2024 03:40 PM (fs1hN)

According the the FNM that was code for "violate the posse comitatus act"

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2024 04:07 PM (D7oie)

134 Look, Lady your question is as loaded as, "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"and exposes YOUR political bias - killing people, lot's of people, is in the job description.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (cOq4q)

What worries me is Trump could use Seal Team 6 to pick up his dry cleaning.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2024 04:07 PM (thd9p)

135 There is only one party with the sole, exclusive right to rule the United States as it and it alone sees fit. Trump does not belong to it.

Posted by: Catch Thiety-Thr33 at January 15, 2024 04:07 PM (rSl/w)

136 95 >>>Eh, I don't agree with that. The question is poorly worded, since many on the right think protecting democracy means getting the fraud out of the voting process.

I think the left has made it plain what is meant these days when we speak of "protecting democracy." A small number of people might think about vote security, but the overwhelming majority know this is just the Democrat 2024 platform.
Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:59 PM (KRtlO)
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True, but see my comment above. The poll question asked about a "functioning democracy." That's oddly worded and arguably something different than the Democrap talking point of "protecting democracy."

Plus: 35 percent of Republican voters in the poll thought a functioning democracy was more important. Unless we're going to say that 35 percent (!) of Republican voters are gonna vote for Biden, that suggests that a sizeable portion of them thought it meant cleaning up fraud.

Posted by: Elric Blade at January 15, 2024 04:07 PM (iFTx/)

137 >>I wonder if Biden has really thought this one through.

Listen, Jack. I did. I DID think it through...and I was pretty sure it was just a fart.

*Whispers*

But it wasn't. It wasn't just a fart.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 15, 2024 04:08 PM (RVloE)

138 67 Didn't Black Jesus drone some US citizens?

When does his trial begin?
Posted by: Being that we're concerned about killing Americans now. at January 15, 2024 03:54 PM (pjs7m)

See, the trick bag here is there is no statute of limitations on murder... so if Trump can't neither can Barry.

Posted by: Inogame at January 15, 2024 04:08 PM (53oGX)

139 Frankly, if Trump wins the election, I expect the military to physically stop him from taking office.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 15, 2024 04:08 PM (lTGtQ)

140 Has anyone ever used a flamethrower to clear snow?

That would be fun.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 15, 2024 04:09 PM (9yWhg)

141 131 >>>
Yea. The poll question seemed oddly worded -- "functioning democracy" -- and the fact that 35 percent of Republican voters thought a functioning democracy was more important that the economy suggests they thought the question was more geared toward cleaning up fraud.

wait, 35% of Republicans said "protecting democracy" was more important?

Maybe I was wrong. I assume there are 15% nevertrumpers who agree with the liberals (because they are liberals) but 35% is very high
Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 04:07 PM (KRtlO)
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Yes, 35 percent of Republican voters according to the link to the poll results.

Posted by: Elric Blade at January 15, 2024 04:09 PM (iFTx/)

142 101 >>>But how many of that 50% are conservatives who see what the lefties are doing? It might not be that bad a sign. Probably is, but might not be.

i think when there's a simple interpretation and a tricky clever interpretation, the simple interpretation is 98% right, particularly when the country is so polarized and partisan. People get that "protecting democracy" really just means "stopping trump." The number of people who don't get this is pretty small.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 04:00 PM (KRtlO)
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I have to disagree. I know a number of people who don't spend much time online obsessing over this shit. They tend to take such questions as meaning what they would have meant more than five minutes ago.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 04:09 PM (1bNHn)

143 And once you start thinking that, your heart rate zooms up (excess anxiety does that) and then you're sure you're gonna have a heart attack.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:47 PM (KRtlO)

eat some aspirin first, just to be safe. And one day I will tell you about my stent.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (D7oie)

144 Remember the crashed airliner scene in War of The Worlds? (PS Tom edition)

CEO of @united says he takes race and gender into account when hiring and laments that there’s too many white males in the airline industry.

Just how many dead people will it take for someone to ask WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (lwOKI)

145 >>That would be fun.

It just makes ice.

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (RVloE)

146 *Whispers*

But it wasn't. It wasn't just a fart.

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Lol

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (0FoWg)

147 Good point. It does raise the question who would be a wise Veep for Trump, to avoid that. Alex Jones, maybe?
Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 04:01 PM (1bNHn)

He just needs to avoid trying to appeal to the GoPe like he did with Pence, or Reagan di with Bush the Elder and he'll be fine. Now whether he does that...

Posted by: Bete at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (LX4y3)

148 Has anyone ever used a flamethrower to clear snow?

Absolutely used a weed-burner to clear ice on a gravel drive. It works.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (5cfJ1)

149 >>>Didn't Black Jesus drone some US citizens?

When does his trial begin?
Posted by: Being that we're concerned about killing Americans now.

I'd rather he imprison Biden and the rest of his white trash family.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (/bnxD)

150 >>> 139 Frankly, if Trump wins the election, I expect the military to physically stop him from taking office.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 15, 2024 04:08 PM (lTGtQ)

I can see the SMAHHHHRRT JCS and other higher ups ordering the grunts to do so. That might be one of those "and then...." moments.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (llON8)

151 Protecting this democracy? How about doing a 'Shores of Tripoli"?
US cargo ship off Yemen is hit by a missile

https://mol.im/a/12965189

Posted by: Ciampino - Yemenis can fire missiles too at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (qfLjt)

152 okay I corrected

my error

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 04:11 PM (KRtlO)

153 *Whispers*

But it wasn't. It wasn't just a fart.

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Lol

Yeah, that was pretty funny.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 04:11 PM (CsUN+)

154 They're signaling to their political allies that they will launch a military coup rather than let Trump take power after being elected.

But just remember, it's Trump that is the insurrectionist.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 15, 2024 03:39 PM (YAtuc)

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They will have to wait for Lloyd Austin to first come out of coma.

Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:11 PM (3JfbU)

155 >>>I have to disagree. I know a number of people who don't spend much time online obsessing over this shit. They tend to take such questions as meaning what they would have meant more than five minutes ago.

yeah I was wrong, I should have read more of the article

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 04:11 PM (KRtlO)

156 The question is SOOO STUPID. Of course the only recourse to hold a president responsible for a misuse of power starts with an impeachment!

Yes, if he literally ordered people killed, and his part wouldn't vote him removed, he would have "gotten away with it".

But this would be a corruption of a government you're now claiming is at least recently beyond reproach!

Are criminal courts expected to not be corrupted by corruption at the highest level?!

No wonder Dem and Sense don't mix well. They are so used to doublethink that they demand you do it with them.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:12 PM (OaZlZ)

157 True Detective was sorta sucky last night.

Posted by: nckate at January 15, 2024 04:12 PM (EPm6B)

158 It just makes ice.
Posted by: garrett

Which you can then melt with the flamethrower until it turns to steam?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 15, 2024 04:12 PM (9yWhg)

159
Like Martin Luther King Jr. before me, I have erred and been made to pay dearly for it by racists.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 04:12 PM (KRtlO)

160 Get ready for the camps. They are a comin'.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 15, 2024 04:12 PM (xT7BI)

161 Anytime the media begin with "" Some say/think/fear..." You know it's made up bullshit.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2024 04:12 PM (W/lyH)

162 Plus: 35 percent of Republican voters in the poll thought a functioning democracy was more important. Unless we're going to say that 35 percent (!) of Republican voters are gonna vote for Biden, that suggests that a sizeable portion of them thought it meant cleaning up fraud.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 15, 2024 04:07 PM (iFTx/)

Nah, that's probably how many Rs will stay home or leave the top block empty if he's the nominee. I mean, Ace is not on an island...I disagree with him b/c a Dem would be worse, but I understand the "I am so sick of him" sentiment that would be in the 35%...I've got family who I am also trying to get over that hump...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (exHjb)

163 >>> 144 Remember the crashed airliner scene in War of The Worlds? (PS Tom edition)

CEO of @united says he takes race and gender into account when hiring and laments that there’s too many white males in the airline industry.

Just how many dead people will it take for someone to ask WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (lwOKI)

Those aren't the IMPORTANT people.

Maybe if say, some guy with a multi-syllable name ending in an I or O loses family in some unfortunate "accident", maybe some IMPORTANT CEOs might have unfortunate "accidents" of their own.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (llON8)

164 >>Which you can then melt with the flamethrower until it turns to steam?

You need to move a TON of air if you want to achieve evapo-transpiration.

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (RVloE)

165 >>> Frankly, if Trump wins the election, I expect the military to physically stop him from taking office.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Like locking down DC like they did in Jan 2021?
Typical for a coup.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (cOq4q)

166 Frankly, if Trump wins the election, I expect the military to physically stop him from taking office.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 15, 2024 04:08 PM (lTGtQ)

Rantingly had a post up through the weekend, with a photo of Trump talking with Milley.

The body language from the photo is stark: Milley believes he's talking to an inferior.

That little queen is now retired, but I guarantee there are people in the Pentagon right now, game planning the progression, from undermining Trump, all the way to killing him.

I don't know that a military coup would work here, but I'm sure there are powerpoint presentations in that building, laying out the pros and cons of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (thd9p)

167 I made a plywood snow remover wirh a 1/2 sheet, cut a couple hand grips in it. If light snow clears a swath 4 feet at a time. Used it a few times

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (fwDg9)

168 It just makes ice.
Posted by: garrett

Which you can then melt with the flamethrower until it turns to steam?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 15, 2024 04:12 PM (9yWhg)

Or why it works on gravel. The water has to have somewhere to go, of course.

I get why folks in urban areas use concrete or asphalt. But I'm a big, big fan of gravel - packed and bordered - in rural settings.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (5cfJ1)

169 I wonder if Biden has really thought this one through. If they trash presidential immunity no reason Biden can't be brought up on charges for willfully ignoring immigration law.
Posted by: JackStraw

By whom?

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (KAi1n)

170 Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 8h
Trump's quotes in the article don't match the AP description of them.

Shocker.

The Associated Press @AP 16h
In his closing pitch to Iowa Republicans, Trump says their votes can help him punish his enemies apnews.com/article/iowa-cauc…

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (2yu8s)

171 The alternative straw man: it is the right of every American citizen to SWAT the President of the United States, cause we think he done something illegal.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:14 PM (OaZlZ)

172 You could use the Air Force 1 stairs to take out Biden. Why waste Seal Team 6's time?

Posted by: Wally at January 15, 2024 04:15 PM (hqVaF)

173 Dems are pushing the Cray Cray like they've got something to hide.

Lot's of "something".

Posted by: mrp at January 15, 2024 04:15 PM (rj6Yv)

174 New intelligence shows conclusively that the attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941 was actually done by a flight of Antarctic Emperor Penguins disguised as Japanese airplanes. As a result we are transferring all senior military staff promoted since the Obama administration took over to Thule Antarctica to ensure that the Penguins don't launch another attack against the United States. Gen Milley will be personally assigned to perform twice daily head counts of the penguins to make sure they don't mass for attack again.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at January 15, 2024 04:15 PM (CecP5)

175 I get the distinct feeling this is yet another method of normalizing the idea that Trump must be stopped by any means necessary.

Like, “hey, he was planning on doing it to our guys, so someone had to take him out fist, amirite?”

Dark, manipulative sh#t right here.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2024 03:42 PM (Hkcdp)

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What else could they do when the peasant voters won't do as they are told?

Besides they have a whole army of trans-gunpersons who are just itching to make zer/zis mark and strike for trans rights.

Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:15 PM (3JfbU)

176 >>Or why it works on gravel.

Exactly. If it is on bare ground, the heat draws moisture and you get better ice.
You need some interstitial space for the water to go. It still freezes, but below the surface of the gravel.

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 04:15 PM (RVloE)

177 172 You could use the Air Force 1 stairs to take out Biden. Why waste Seal Team 6's time?
Posted by: Wally at January 15, 2024 04:15 PM (hqVaF)

A sandbag, a bicycle

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2024 04:16 PM (n2vyf)

178 #170 addendum:

StewMama✈ Cari- Radically Moderate @StewMama71 8h Replying to @AP
Umm....this is the quote in the article:
http://tinyurl.com/bdfn5a69

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:16 PM (2yu8s)

179 I wonder if Biden has really thought this one through. If they trash presidential immunity no reason Biden can't be brought up on charges for willfully ignoring immigration law.
Posted by: JackStraw

By whom?
Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2024 04:13 PM (KAi1n)
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AG of Texas in a Texas court, sounds like.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:16 PM (OaZlZ)

180 You could use the Air Force 1 stairs to take out Biden. Why waste Seal Team 6's time?

I'd really like to know what cocktail of medicines Joe is on. Because that's some potent shit. Probably expensive beyond all belief.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:16 PM (5cfJ1)

181 I wonder if Biden has really thought this one through. If they trash presidential immunity no reason Biden can't be brought up on charges for willfully ignoring immigration law.
Posted by: JackStraw
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He'll die in bed of natural causes long before he's ever brought to trial for any of his crimes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 15, 2024 04:17 PM (BpYfr)

182 How long would Biden's diaper retain heat if collapsed in the snow?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 04:17 PM (yyfQG)

183
172 You could use the Air Force 1 stairs to take out Biden. Why waste Seal Team 6's time?
Posted by: Wally at January 15, 2024 04:15 PM (hqVaF)

A sandbag, a bicycle

A resentful German shepherd...

Posted by: Speller at January 15, 2024 04:17 PM (pSotA)

184 The alternative straw man: it is the right of every American citizen to SWAT the President of the United States, cause we think he done something illegal.
Posted by: Axeman

Only OK if it is Trump.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 15, 2024 04:18 PM (cOq4q)

185 I mean.
If you had a Yuge Flamethrower.

and maybe a giant Wile-E-Coyote style fan...
maybe you could get it to work well enough?

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 04:18 PM (RVloE)

186 You could use the Air Force 1 stairs to take out Biden. Why waste Seal Team 6's time?
Posted by: Wally at January 15, 2024 04:15 PM (hqVaF)

I think Seal Team 6 has done enough. Seal Team 4 has done jack squat. Time for them to get off their arses.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2024 04:18 PM (thd9p)

187 Frankly, if Trump wins the election, I expect the military to physically stop him from taking office.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 15, 2024 04:08 PM (lTGtQ)

I can see the SMAHHHHRRT JCS and other higher ups ordering the grunts to do so. That might be one of those "and then...." moments.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Prettycertain that 20 year oldeBif, *holding the nuclear warhead PAL combination*, would look on the wall at the photos of my then chain of command and tell the four star to go fuck himself. Hell, weeven used to role play different GO assholes for training and Article 138 reasons. We would also review the ROE for protecting the warhead with lethal force.

Unlike the majority of today's active duty forces, i did and still do understand legal orders versus illegal orders and what would happen to me for following an illegal order.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (3CCua)

188 I saw a photo of Niki in Iowa with a campaign sign behind her. The slogan Pick Nikki. It 1/2 rhymes. Lol. I bet a consultant was paid $25k for that.

Posted by: Montec at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (lNMBb)

189 Frankly, if Trump wins the election, I expect the military to physically stop him from taking office.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

The only ones who need to worry about Trump returning to office are every swinging Richard involved with the Mar A Lago fiasco.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (W/lyH)

190 Allowing politically biased states or state jurisdictions to criminally prosecute a President they don’t like is an absurd proposition that the reductio ad absurdum argument can be used.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (MNhXM)

191 I wonder if Biden has really thought this one through. If they trash presidential immunity no reason Biden can't be brought up on charges for willfully ignoring immigration law.
Posted by: JackStraw

I'd say they have. You telling me the current GOP - which just "compromised" to give the DNC everything they want on Amnesty - will suddenly start fighting fire with fire regarding the Bidens ?

Pull the other one. It's got bells on it.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (5cfJ1)

192 Get ready for the camps.

Camps, schmamps, it's gonna be pop up bio diesel rendering stations.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (OKkSB)

193 Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:16 PM (2yu8s)

That's nothing like this :

The Associated Press @AP 16h
In his closing pitch to Iowa Republicans, Trump says their votes can help him punish his enemies apnews.com/article/iowa-cauc…

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (n2vyf)

194 147 Good point. It does raise the question who would be a wise Veep for Trump, to avoid that. Alex Jones, maybe?
Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 04:01 PM (1bNHn)

He just needs to avoid trying to appeal to the GoPe like he did with Pence, or Reagan di with Bush the Elder and he'll be fine. Now whether he does that...
Posted by: Bete at January 15, 2024 04:10 PM (LX4y3)
______
But if he takes a GOPe pick, why wouldn't they try to knock him off? The point of Alex Jones is he's even worse, in their minds. Assassination insurance, like Kamala. (The one smart move Brandon ever made.)

Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (1bNHn)

195 I get the distinct feeling this is yet another method of normalizing the idea that Trump must be stopped by any means necessary.

Which is why I can't believe that Trump would consider Nikki Haley as his VP candidate for a second.

If Trump/Haley wins, they'll kill Trump to get Haley into power.

Guaranteed.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 15, 2024 03:44 PM (YAtuc)

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Not gonna happen, Trump hates Haley so there is no possibility of him choosing her. He is concerned with his legacy and will choose someone who will continue it. I think Vivek will be the one.

Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (3JfbU)

196 181 I wonder if Biden has really thought this one through. If they trash presidential immunity no reason Biden can't be brought up on charges for willfully ignoring immigration law.
Posted by: JackStraw
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He'll die in bed of natural causes long before he's ever brought to trial for any of his crimes.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 15, 2024 04:17 PM (BpYfr)

Ain't that the truth!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at January 15, 2024 04:20 PM (53oGX)

197 Eric Blade read further into the article than I did -- whoops -- and yes, more than one third of Republicans say defending democracy is more important than the economy.
________

I appreciate the shout-out, but who's this "Eric Blade" twit?

Posted by: Elric Blade at January 15, 2024 04:20 PM (iFTx/)

198
I hate freezes. Not just the cold but also all the other crap related to it, the worst of which is covering up the garden. Dragging out covers, sheets and tarps, stringing them out, trying to attach them to non-existent points. Pointless chaos.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 15, 2024 04:20 PM (MoZTd)

199 Sundowner isn't making policy by the DOJ

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2024 04:20 PM (fwDg9)

200 Meanwhile, we had a partial evacuation of the White House complex because of the violent demonstrations created by anti-Israel rioters. The MSM's reactions: "something something" and move on.

Posted by: mrp at January 15, 2024 04:20 PM (rj6Yv)

201 He'll die in bed of natural causes long before he's ever brought to trial for any of his crimes.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 15, 2024 04:17 PM (BpYfr)
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Ah, Richard Rich.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:20 PM (OaZlZ)

202 Urgent search underway for plane that crashed in San Francisco bay

https://mol.im/a/12964529

Posted by: Ciampino - Was this on local news? at January 15, 2024 04:21 PM (qfLjt)

203
Anytime the media begin with " Some say/think/fear..." You know it's made up bullshit.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2024 04:12 PM

'Experts say' you're wrong.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 15, 2024 04:21 PM (nIvob)

204 Mike Benz @MikeBenzCyber
Relevant to the NBC News reveal today that they’re working with the military in advance to defy Trump from the inside during his presidency if he wins

Mike Benz @MikeBenzCyber 20 Dec 2023
This second screenshot below, proposing a military coup to get rid of Trump in 2020, was penned by Rosa Brooks, the head of the Transition Integrity Project
http://tinyurl.com/3u588bdt

Mike Benz @MikeBenzCyber
The NBC News military coup proposal piece tries to argue they need to pre-orchestrate military defiance of the Commander-In-Chief bc, among other things, Trump might assassinate opposing lawmakers.

All-time hall of fame “It’s Coming Right For Us” predicate creation.
http://tinyurl.com/h4esn4fw

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:21 PM (2yu8s)

205 Mike Benz @MikeBenzCyber
Never forget this tweet for the rest of your life. This is an admitted plan, in advance, for the military to no longer observe the military chain of command. This is military-run government. This is a plan to end civilian-run government.

NBC News @NBCNews 22h
A network of public interest groups and lawmakers, nervous about former President Trump’s potential return to power, is quietly devising plans to foil any effort on his part to pressure the U.S. military to carry out his political agenda. nbcnews.com/politics/2024-el…

Mollie @MZHemingway 16h
NBC reports the left is plotting ways to have military not be under civilian control. This dangerous and unconstitutional usurpation of power is being framed by NBC as good because it will undermine Trump if he is freely and fairly elected by Americans.

Fears grow that Trump will use the military in ‘dictatorial ways’ if he returns to the White House
Among those being mentioned for Trump’s secretary of defense are Christopher Miller, who served temporarily during his administration, Michael Flynn and Mike Pompeo. nbcnews.com

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:21 PM (2yu8s)

206 The left always projects. That means they'll assassinate Trump.

Posted by: InZona at January 15, 2024 04:21 PM (qz1Fg)

207 Where is the mocking of Biden for being evacuated instead of challenging the protestors to push-up competitions?

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:22 PM (OaZlZ)

208 What the fuck does "protecting democracy" mean?

I want a constitutional Republic that follows its rules, not the bullshit we have now.

What ever happened to "regular order".
And budgets?
And appropriation bills?
A balanced budget?

This is what I want.

Oh, and less government.

And this chair.

This chair, and this ashtray.

The chair, this ashtray, and this pen.

This is what I want.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (ufFY8)

209 The NBC News military coup proposal piece tries to argue they need to pre-orchestrate military defiance of the Commander-In-Chief bc, among other things, Trump might assassinate opposing lawmakers.

And here, for a couple threads, I vent my spleen about why I'm just tired of the inept and useless concept of voting for Trump. And then you reel me right back in. Damn it.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (5cfJ1)

210 The left always projects. That means they'll assassinate Trump.
Posted by: InZona at January 15, 2024

If that happens would his assassin be charged?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (yyfQG)

211 Urgent search underway for plane that crashed in San Francisco bay

Half Moon Bay, actually. Beautiful place.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (9yWhg)

212 Not gonna happen, Trump hates Haley so there is no possibility of him choosing her. He is concerned with his legacy and will choose someone who will continue it. I think Vivek will be the one.

IF Trump is the nom, my new strong horse is Elise Stefanik. She's a hero right now for destroying academia.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (CsUN+)

213 Urgent search underway for plane that crashed in San Francisco bay

https://mol.im/a/12964529
Posted by: Ciampino - Was this on local news?

Only to recover the smallpox samples it was delivering.
Only so much of that stuff left.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (cOq4q)

214 I'm pretty sure we made some serious mistakes 20 yrs ago...

@BNONews 3m
BREAKING: Iran fires ballistic missiles at Erbil in northern Iraq, sirens heard at the U.S. Consulate

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (IG4Id)

215 Urgent search underway for plane that crashed in San Francisco bay

https://mol.im/a/12964529
Posted by: Ciampino - Was this on local news? at January 15, 2024 04:21 PM (qfLjt)

"Two-propeller" is a really weird way to describe an aircraft.

Posted by: spindrift at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (AA8bA)

216 Urgent search underway for plane that crashed in San Francisco bay
https://mol.im/a/12964529
Posted by: Ciampino - Was this on local news? at January 15, 2024 04:21 PM (qfLjt)

That's a shame.

Posted by: Zombie Henry John Deutschendorf, Jr. at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (R/m4+)

217 SAN FRANCISCO BAY BLUES
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=OFbr5CysWaQ

Posted by: HOT TUNA at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (RVloE)

218 “Getting a snowblower next year.”

Get one in March when Home Depot and all the rest start moving in spring merchandise. There are always bigly sales.

Or better yet get a used one. I’ve had mine for almost 15 years. Works as well today as when it was new. I use mine 7-10 times a year, only when it really SNOWS!! Otherwise it’s kind of a pain to get going and I’ll just shovel. So a used one a few years old is basically near new.

Posted by: Montec at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (lNMBb)

219 Any solution that does involve the extermination of democrats and elimination of the deepstate and its power is just whistling past the graveyard.

Posted by: JoshO at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (WdLfA)

220 We would also review the ROE for protecting the warhead with lethal force.

Worked with a navy vet who held another sailor at M14 point for being on the wrong deck, where the nukes in transit were stored.
Completely within guidelines.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (OKkSB)

221 Urgent search underway for plane that crashed in San Francisco bay

Well - I'm no expert. But I'd look in that bay, that's not all THAT big, with the bridge going across and the old prison in the middle. But that's just me.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:24 PM (5cfJ1)

222 I want to see everybody get fired and then refuse to leave.

Posted by: fd at January 15, 2024 04:24 PM (vFG9F)

223 I wonder if Biden has really thought this one through. If they trash presidential immunity no reason Biden can't be brought up on charges for willfully ignoring immigration law.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM
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No reasonable prosecutor and all that jazz...

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 15, 2024 04:24 PM (xT7BI)

224 Not gonna happen, Trump hates Haley so there is no possibility of him choosing her. He is concerned with his legacy and will choose someone who will continue it. I think Vivek will be the one. ……

So Trump is trying some misdirection by bashing Vivek on Truth Social ?

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:25 PM (MNhXM)

225
If Trump is literally Hitler and his election an existential threat to the nation, then what measures aren't justified to stop him?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 15, 2024 04:25 PM (MoZTd)

226 BREAKING: Iran fires ballistic missiles at Erbil in northern Iraq, sirens heard at the U.S. Consulate

==

I guess Biden's "private Message' to the Iranian regime caused much laughter in Tehran. He is making punks of the Unites States.

Posted by: runner at January 15, 2024 04:25 PM (V13WU)

227 If Trump is literally Hitler and his election an existential threat to the nation, then what measures aren't justified to stop him?

Until I get a free shirt and a beer ? Then Trump's not even trying.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:26 PM (5cfJ1)

228 Mollie @MZHemingway 16h
NBC reports the left is plotting ways to have military not be under civilian control. This dangerous and unconstitutional usurpation of power is being framed by NBC as good because it will undermine Trump if he is freely and fairly elected by Americans.
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They started with the Police State powers of the DoJ.

The president should have no oversight, and it is it's Constitutional duty to not answer Congressional oversight.

This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but an oversupply of venial morons.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:26 PM (OaZlZ)

229 210 The left always projects. That means they'll assassinate Trump.
Posted by: InZona at January 15, 2024

If that happens would his assassin be charged?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (yyfQG)
_____

Of course they'll try to get a nonwhite trans person, to make the defense easier. Xhe is a victim of whiteness.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 04:26 PM (1bNHn)

230 NBC: There is no Deep State.

Also NBC: Witness the power of this fully operational Deep State.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 15, 2024 04:26 PM (P9pDS)

231 @144

>>Just how many dead people will it take for someone to ask WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?

I think for a large subset of people running businesses, making money and delivering people door to door alive and in one piece, is no longer quite their tempo.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 15, 2024 04:27 PM (XV/Pl)

232 Nikki/Romney 2024

Lying sacks of shit you can trust!!

Posted by: Montec at January 15, 2024 04:27 PM (lNMBb)

233 Also, does Seal Team Six still exist in today's military or is it now composed of a bunch of Lizzo clones who will scissor their foes to death?

Posted by: Ian S. at January 15, 2024 04:27 PM (P9pDS)

234 Let me know what you think will happen if Congress refuses to fund Biden's war for his funders and paymasters in Urkaine./

Did I do that?

Posted by: Steven Urkel at January 15, 2024 04:27 PM (ynpvh)

235 who had "Ben Carson" as Trump's VP pick?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2024 04:28 PM (D7oie)

236 Only to recover the smallpox samples it was delivering.
Only so much of that stuff left.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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A Pox on Our House
After a 200-year-old medicine jar found on an off-shore shipwreck shatters in a teenage girl's palm, she is admitted to Princeton Plainsboro for symptoms closely linked to smallpox. When the Center for Disease Control's Dr. Dave Broda institutes a lockdown on the hospital and suspends House's team's ability to diagnose, Masters is skeptical about Broda's diagnosis and becomes convinced that the patient is suffering from a different disease. The girl's father soon experiences similar symptoms, and House is forced to make a precarious decision that puts his own life in jeopardy. Meanwhile, Wilson and Sam comfort a 6-year-old chemotherapy patient who prompts them to examine their relationship.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1726380/

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:28 PM (2yu8s)

237 This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but an oversupply of venial morons.

denoting a sin that is not regarded as depriving the soul of divine grace.

(of a fault or offense) slight and pardonable.

Not following you. How are these dangerous lunatics just venial?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 04:28 PM (CsUN+)

238 The chair, this ashtray, and this pen.

This is what I want.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (ufFY

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They will take your chair because it's a symbol of "white privilege" when you have one and others don't.

They will take your ashtray because smoking is bad for you.

They will take your pen because you might write unapproved messages.

They will take all that you have and leave you with nothing, "for your own good."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 15, 2024 04:28 PM (BpYfr)

239 Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 15, 2024 04:23 PM (IG4Id)

The mistake was made.14 years ago.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:28 PM (MNhXM)

240 I know this isn't a GAINZZZ thread, but I did go to the gym this morning for the first time in a while (don't ask how long of a while). I mention this because I feel compelled to get in better shape before everything goes completely and utterly to $hit in this country. And, being just a smidge over 29, I'm taking it VERY easy to start. All this up-thread talk of worrying about a heart attack was way too familiar to me.

Posted by: PabloD at January 15, 2024 04:29 PM (COBMC)

241 This whole thread reminds me why I really want Pinochet. Or Salazar. My kind of guys.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 15, 2024 04:30 PM (1bNHn)

242 They will take your chair because it's a symbol of "white privilege" when you have one and others don't.

Depends. Is it the comfy chair?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2024 04:30 PM (CsUN+)

243 The left is telegraphing exactly what they're going to do.

Not if and when Trump does this or that. They're going to start now.

When nobody complains it will ratchet up to 11. Because nobody's going to complain.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2024 04:30 PM (Q4IgG)

244 So Trump is trying some misdirection by bashing Vivek on Truth Social ?

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:25 PM (MNhXM)

Vivek told a Trump supporter to vote for him to save Trump because they were going to go after him...
I believe this is what Trump was responding to.

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at January 15, 2024 04:30 PM (53oGX)

245 Buffalo Bills fans are still trying to shovel out their seats. Stadium hired a bunch of people at $19/hr. plus food, but they only got the $$$ seats done.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 15, 2024 04:31 PM (0lr2Q)

246 There is a LOT of treason going on within uniparty.

Hanged by the neck until dead treason.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at January 15, 2024 04:31 PM (gxokI)

247 "I can whack a guy if I feel like it and it's all legit."

It was a suicide.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 15, 2024 04:31 PM (ynpvh)

248 Trump made me do it.

Posted by: Oswald 2.0 at January 15, 2024 04:32 PM (OUiUM)

249 This whole thread reminds me why I really want Pinochet. Or Salazar. My kind of guys.

No love for a Franco ? I don't think Franco gets enough respect. Seriously.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:32 PM (5cfJ1)

250 Is there anyway to put a hold on this bullshxt until at least one person votes?

Posted by: Rat Fink's accountant at January 15, 2024 04:32 PM (9X60i)

251 Let me know what you think will happen if Congress refuses to fund Biden's war for his funders and paymasters in Urkaine.

The left 2001-2004: We want to bomb jihadis just as much as Shrub...but with feminist bombs!

The left 2005-2008: Shrub should be impeached for this illegal war. War HUH what is it good for? Absolutely nothing

The left 2009-2015: The president can bomb whoever he wants when and wherever he wants.

The left 2016: You can't elect Trump he'll start WWIII with Russia!

The left 2017-2020: Impeach Trump because he won't start WWIII with Russia!

The left 2021 on: The president can bomb whoever he wants when and wherever he wants. Also he can spend as much money on it as the man with pictures of him and a tween want him to.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 15, 2024 04:32 PM (ibTVg)

252 Let me know what you think will happen if Congress refuses to fund Biden's war for his funders and paymasters in Urkaine./

Wars over. Ask the moose.

>>President Volodymyr Zelensky has signaled he wants to end the Ukraine war with Russia after asking Switzerland to organize a "high-level peace conference".

http://tinyurl.com/bfa4e4xa

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:32 PM (ZLI7S)

253 246 There is a LOT of treason going on within uniparty.

Hanged by the neck until dead treason.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at January 15, 2024 04:31 PM (gxokI)

Will that be on PPV?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 15, 2024 04:33 PM (ynpvh)

254 The excuse they will use for insubordination is "we swear an oath to The Constitution, not the president, blah blah blah"
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 15, 2024 03:48 PM (V6W16)
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I'm just wondering how people sitting in the offices of extra-Constitutional regulatory agencies would pull that off.

Are the upholding the vestments of all executive power in the presidency?

No. That is passe. Connie the Living, Breathing Constitution runs an organic grocery in Greenwich Village.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:33 PM (OaZlZ)

255 Off DocSock

Posted by: Inogame at January 15, 2024 04:34 PM (53oGX)

256 NBC "News:" Some Fear That Trump Would Weaponize the Government Against His Enemies, So They're Planning to Weaponize the Government Against Possible Trump Officials

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Ahh, the old hit him back first defense.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 15, 2024 04:34 PM (FVME7)

257 No love for a Franco ? I don't think Franco gets enough respect. Seriously.
Posted by: I Have No Party

I agree. Salazar, too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 15, 2024 04:35 PM (9yWhg)

258 What I hate about Nitter? It blocks my attempts at saving video clips as I like watching such clips later. Why? I can save the ones on X.

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm bitter about nitter at January 15, 2024 04:35 PM (qfLjt)

259 >>President Volodymyr Zelensky has signaled he wants to end the Ukraine war with Russia after asking Switzerland to organize a "high-level peace conference".

http://tinyurl.com/bfa4e4xa

Funny how that happens the second Biden and McConnell both say Z is on his own.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 15, 2024 04:35 PM (AIhUY)

260
And this chair.

This chair, and this ashtray.

The chair, this ashtray, and this pen.

This is what I want.
Posted by: D

Such a jerk

Posted by: N at January 15, 2024 04:35 PM (RjBju)

261 zerohedge @zerohedge 4h
ZELENSKY HAS ASKED SWITZERLAND TO ORGANISE A HIGH LEVEL PEACE CONFERENCE

It's over

zerohedge @zerohedge 4h
*ZELENSKIY: UKRAINE WANTS CHINA TO JOIN PEACE SUMMIT

*ZELENSKIY: RUSSIA WOULDN'T BE INVITED TO SWISS PEACE CONFERENCE

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:35 PM (2yu8s)

262 *ZELENSKIY: RUSSIA WOULDN'T BE INVITED TO SWISS PEACE CONFERENCE
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:35 PM (2yu8s)

What ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2024 04:36 PM (n2vyf)

263 What is more fun is what happens if congress does not fund navy missiles in the red sea?

Posted by: N at January 15, 2024 04:36 PM (RjBju)

264 I don't like the fact that the left is openly planning for a military coup if Trump wins.

Which, for the dullards at the back, means that they plan the same for ANY Republican that might win.

Trump is not the one-off, existential and dire threat-- you, choosing anyone they don't approve of, are the threat.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 15, 2024 04:37 PM (PFILT)

265 I am thinking DJT wouldn't go wrong with Kari Lake

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2024 04:37 PM (fwDg9)

266 *ZELENSKIY: RUSSIA WOULDN'T BE INVITED TO SWISS PEACE CONFERENCE

A bold strategy.

Posted by: spindrift at January 15, 2024 04:37 PM (AA8bA)

267 The media will try very very hard to work everyone up into a hateful frenzy of right vs left.

The Kalorama/Davos cartels and the CCP want us in a civil war. 2024 is not going to be a good year for this country.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2024 04:37 PM (BdMk6)

268 None of the terrorism of the left is stochastic. It's out like a trannies' balls and fake tits.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 15, 2024 04:38 PM (ynpvh)

269 So Trump is trying some misdirection by bashing Vivek on Truth Social ?

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:25 PM (MNhXM)
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Candidate Trump =/= Administrative Trump

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:38 PM (OaZlZ)

270 >>*ZELENSKIY: RUSSIA WOULDN'T BE INVITED TO SWISS PEACE CONFERENCE

I'm seeing a few holes in this plan.

Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 04:38 PM (RVloE)

271 You could use the Air Force 1 stairs to take out Biden. Why waste Seal Team 6's time?
Posted by: Wally at January 15, 2024 04:15 PM (hqVaF)

Joe biden sings Johnny Cash - Hurt

http://tinyurl.com/9c2zjbx6

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2024 04:38 PM (D7oie)

272 Nazi Pelosi should quaff a gallon of windshield washer fluid.
Posted by: Northernlurker
****
We want something that makes her regret being what she became.

Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2024 04:38 PM (OUiUM)

273 Which, for the dullards at the back, means that they plan the same for ANY Republican that might win.

The Left is good at this. They've got real good at this.

How many here would consider the idea, that if THAT'S how the military is going to roll, of simply not funding the Military at current levels ?

I'll assume that'll still be about as popular as Let the Left Defund Their Own Police.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:38 PM (5cfJ1)

274 >>Funny how that happens the second Biden and McConnell both say Z is on his own.

This is how it was always going to end. There was never any chance Ukraine was going to beat Russia.

Now we get to see if Vlad marches on Poland as I've been told he will.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:38 PM (ZLI7S)

275 263 What is more fun is what happens if congress does not fund navy missiles in the red sea?

Posted by: N at January 15, 2024 04:36 PM (RjBju)

Can we buy them from the Iranians? They seem to have plenty for their Houthi friends.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 15, 2024 04:39 PM (ynpvh)

276 What I hate about Nitter? It blocks my attempts at saving video clips as I like watching such clips later. Why? I can save the ones on X.
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I know its a PITA if it's a thread with a bunch of video clips you'd like to save and not just from one X tweet but changing nitter.net to twitter.com in any one Nitter-reproduced X tweet gives you the original still-accessible X tweet.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:39 PM (2yu8s)

277 =/=

Shto ehto takoye? Shto znachit? ("What is this? What does it mean?")

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 15, 2024 04:39 PM (9yWhg)

278 Let’s go Bills!

Posted by: Jamaica at January 15, 2024 04:40 PM (Eeb9P)

279 So now the deep state is admitting they'll repeat what they did for 4 years when we deplorables had the audacity to elect Trump?

That was one of the downsides of Trump. He has such an outsize personality and people had a tendency to think he would singlehandedly slay the deep state dragon for us.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 15, 2024 04:40 PM (3cGpq)

280 264 I don't like the fact that the left is openly planning for a military coup if Trump wins.

Which, for the dullards at the back, means that they plan the same for ANY Republican that might win.

Trump is not the one-off, existential and dire threat-- you, choosing anyone they don't approve of, are the threat.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 15, 2024 04:37 PM (PFILT)

and the MSM is all in on this treachery. As such all members should be held to account for treason if Trump wins and the left enacts their plans.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 15, 2024 04:40 PM (ynpvh)

281 We got months of "Lyin' Ted" from candidate Trump, but then we found out President Trump liked "Lyin' Ted, whose dad might have holed JFK" for SCOTUS.

If your memory is not as good, that's on you.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:40 PM (OaZlZ)

282 O did have U.S. citizens bumped & allegedly PDT too.

A Biden cover, nothing more. (Leave the old fool there & there's by far less to contend with politically.)

The 'bama-S*ros worldwide programs are built on "Protecting Democracy."

O's Foundation: Right now, democracy is currently facing challenges everywhere. We see this in instances of conflict, weakening democratic systems, and the rise in polarization and disinformation affecting discourse, culture, and elections in numerous countries, including the United States.
The Obama Foundation and President Obama are dedicated to building and strengthening democratic culture in the United States and around the world by developing the leaders and organizations who represent the democratic values and work so essential to democracy.

And, S*ros' Open Society Foundations announces new projects in Ukraine, 7 Nov. 2023. And the UN & half the world rejoices.
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We're going to get shaken down good & real hard for all of the new Americans regardless. Wouldn't new undocumented become like some of the old DACAs, enlist & actually serve? Would many care who's going for whom politically with a sure path to citizenship & stuff?

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear. They only have to outrun us - for now at January 15, 2024 04:41 PM (GshMh)

283 Apart from weaponizing the military I'd like to see Trump wrap his hands around Adam Schiff's throat like Homer Simpson does to Bart and squeeze until Schiff's eyes pop out.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 04:42 PM (yyfQG)

284 Nancy wants to be Speaker so she can rip up Trump's SOTU speech and then impeach him again.
And drink on government aircraft.
Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2024 03:50 PM (OUiUM)

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But mostly to drink on government aircraft.

Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:42 PM (3JfbU)

285 Apart from weaponizing the military I'd like to see Trump wrap his hands around Adam Schiff's throat like Homer Simpson does to Bart and squeeze until Schiff's eyes pop out.

You people tax me. Every time I make other plans for Election Day, 2024 ? You reel me right back in with sugary promises like this.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:43 PM (5cfJ1)

286 Camps, schmamps, it's gonna be pop up bio diesel rendering stations.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 15, 2024 04:19 PM (OKkSB)

Wasn't there a scene in the Tom Cruise War of the World flick, where they'd put people in a big meat grinder?

Everyone not already in the grinder would be sprayed by the liquified mush that came out the other end.

That's what I'm envisioning.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2024 04:43 PM (QtYSt)

287 >>So now the deep state is admitting they'll repeat what they did for 4 years when we deplorables had the audacity to elect Trump?

There's a problem running the same game on the same people over and over. Sooner or later people realize they are getting played.

Even the left knows what's going on even if they don't admit it. We aren't gonna fall for the old banana in the tail pipe trick again.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:43 PM (ZLI7S)

288 The Kalorama/Davos cartels and the CCP want us in a civil war. 2024 is not going to be a good year for this country.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2024 04:37 PM (BdMk6)

2.5 months between Election Day and Inauguration Day. That depends, of course on minimal ballot disputations in court. Truckloads of ballots, disintegration of plumbing, malfunctioning voting machines, and sketchy thumb drives notwithstanding.

Posted by: mrp at January 15, 2024 04:43 PM (rj6Yv)

289 We got months of "Lyin' Ted" from candidate Trump, but then we found out President Trump liked "Lyin' Ted, whose dad might have holed JFK" for SCOTUS.

If your memory is not as good, that's on you.
Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:40 PM (OaZlZ)

I think it’s your memory that’s not so good on how that turned out .

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:43 PM (MNhXM)

290 Apart from weaponizing the military I'd like to see Trump wrap his hands around Adam Schiff's throat like Homer Simpson does to Bart and squeeze until Schiff's eyes pop out.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 04:42 PM (yyfQG)

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It doesn't have to be Trump, anyone will do.

Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:43 PM (3JfbU)

291 If Trump was so dangerous to democracy, wouldn't he be in power right now? I'm not smart enough to understand.
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A Constitutional republic is immune to a dictator or tyrant--even a Trump.

It is because they have stripped away and destroyed all Constitutional safeguards-- on the way to their own tyranny.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 15, 2024 04:44 PM (PFILT)

292 Nanzi should be charged for the Coup D'etat and treason

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2024 04:44 PM (fwDg9)

293 We got months of "Lyin' Ted" from candidate Trump, but then we found out President Trump liked "Lyin' Ted, whose dad might have holed JFK" for SCOTUS.

It was The Comedian. Saw it at the cinema.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:45 PM (5cfJ1)

294 I wouldn't vote for him if he decided to not weaponize the government. How about starting to toss leftists into the gulag with the J6 "insurrectionists."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 15, 2024 03:32 PM (/bnxD)

This is the only inaugural address I want from Trump: "Joseph Robinette Biden, you are under arrest for treason against the United States."

Then send a detachment of Marines to arrest every Democrat and 99% of the Republicans in congress and throw the bastards into Gitmo with no parole and no communication with the outside world.

Then on Day 2, send Seal Team 6 to drag Obama and Hillary to jail.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 15, 2024 04:45 PM (Q0kLU)

295 290 Apart from weaponizing the military I'd like to see Trump wrap his hands around Adam Schiff's throat like Homer Simpson does to Bart and squeeze until Schiff's eyes pop out.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 04:42 PM (yyfQG)

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It doesn't have to be Trump, anyone will do.

Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:43 PM (3JfbU)

Even a rope. Twas a suicide.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 15, 2024 04:45 PM (ynpvh)

296 But mostly to drink on government aircraft.
Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:42 PM (3JfbU)

I wonder if Nazy Pelousi has had to settle for Bluebell ice cream in her ice cream freezer.

Like a peasant.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2024 04:45 PM (QtYSt)

297 Nanzi should be charged for the Coup D'etat and treason

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 15, 2024 04:45 PM (OKkSB)

298 >>I think it’s your memory that’s not so good on how that turned out .

It ended with Cruz endorsing Trump in 2016.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:46 PM (ZLI7S)

299 291 If Trump was so dangerous to democracy, wouldn't he be in power right now? I'm not smart enough to understand.
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A Constitutional republic is immune to a dictator or tyrant--even a Trump.

It is because they have stripped away and destroyed all Constitutional safeguards-- on the way to their own tyranny.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 15, 2024 04:44 PM (PFILT)

Yup. It's amazing what Joey and Obama could do with a phone and a pen sans any legal authority.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 15, 2024 04:46 PM (ynpvh)

300 Nanzi should be charged for the Coup D'etat and treason
Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2024 04:44 PM

And then stripped naked and dropped somewhere in the Alaskan wilderness.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 15, 2024 04:46 PM (yyfQG)

301 until Schiff's eyes pop out.

More than half way there now.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 15, 2024 04:47 PM (OKkSB)

302 Ha Taiwan just gave China a Big F-you last week for trying these very same tactics before electing a conservative hard liner as El Presidente!
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 15, 2024 03:56 PM (9L4BR)

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That would be the first one of the 40 or so elections scheduled for this year. A great start! People are not stupid when given a proper choice.

Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:47 PM (3JfbU)

303 I'm seeing a few holes in this plan.
Posted by: garrett at January 15, 2024 04:38 PM (RVloE)

For one thing, not enough holes in Zelensky.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2024 04:47 PM (QtYSt)

304 292 Nanzi should be charged for the Coup D'etat and treason

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2024 04:44 PM (fwDg9)

ALL the J6 material held by Congress, the FIB, the DOJ, the DOD and so forth should be released. Fuck their "confidential" sources. Fuck them.
Will it happen? Let's just say that those CIA/FIB files regarding the JFK assassination are still under wraps after 60+ years...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 15, 2024 04:47 PM (ynpvh)

305 98 >>I think it’s your memory that’s not so good on how that turned out .

It ended with Cruz endorsing Trump in 2016.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:46 PM (ZLI7

Your memory ain’t so good either. Trump’s absurd attacks on Cruz still hurt him to this day. Might just be a cult thing though.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:47 PM (MNhXM)

306 What did we do? - Alaskan wilderness.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 15, 2024 04:48 PM (OKkSB)

307 Now we get to see if Vlad marches on Poland as I've been told he will.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:38 PM (ZLI7S)

Considering Poland's last "election", Russia might be invited in to take over.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2024 04:48 PM (BdMk6)

308 And just like in 2020, you can still count on the Republicans to sellout their own president at every opportunity, because selling to the highest bidder is what the Corporate Whore, Party of Lying, Coward Shitbags Who Can Go Fuck Themselves is great at doing.
2020: NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE.

Posted by: Tracy at January 15, 2024 04:49 PM (qV0gS)

309 >>> I know this isn't a GAINZZZ thread, but I did go to the gym this morning for the first time in a while (don't ask how long of a while). I mention this because I feel compelled to get in better shape before everything goes completely and utterly to $hit in this country. And, being just a smidge over 29, I'm taking it VERY easy to start. All this up-thread talk of worrying about a heart attack was way too familiar to me.

congrats. I started getting in shape before Christmas. Be here for the Resolutionzzzz thread on Friday

also the "taking it easy to start" is of course the right way to do it. The opposite of that is "Trying to Prove I Haven't Lost any Strength or Endurance Since I Was 19" Plan. Obviously that will fail because everyone has lost strength and endurance if they haven't been working out. People try to reassure themselves that they're still in shape by going HARD when they KNOW they're actually not in shape. Then they get all beat up and injured, and feel ashamed for having fallen out of shape, and then they stop.

And when I say "people" do this I mean me. It was only this last time 'round that I committed to accepting I had lost all my GAINZZZ and to go easy.

Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 04:50 PM (KRtlO)

310 I think it’s your memory that’s not so good on how that turned out .
Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:43 PM (MNhXM)
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I'm citing facts. You're conflating assessment with memory of facts.

As the Patriot Act and the Gulf War II can't solidly be considered "achievements" any more, what am I missing comparing Trump with the last two Pub residencies?

W *warned* of the possible collapse of 2007, but did nothing ultimately to prevent it.

I hope Ron's secret genie works out for you guys.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:50 PM (OaZlZ)

311 >>Your memory ain’t so good either. Trump’s absurd attacks on Cruz still hurt him to this day. Might just be a cult thing though.

All parts are working fine.

>In a statement released Friday, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz endorsed Donald Trump after months of withholding his support from the Republican presidential nominee who defeated him in the primaries.

>BY PATRICK SVITEK
SEPT. 23, 2016

http://tinyurl.com/ysdf3k29

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:50 PM (ZLI7S)

312 A second Trump administration will be dead upon arrival, assuming the CIA doesn't JFK him beforehand. The repukes in DC fear and despise him every single bit as much as the demonrats. Nobody will work with him and the few appointees he'll be allowed to have will all be vicious back-stabbers. The bureaucracy had four years to Trump-proof itself and I guarantee they've not been idle. Trump will NOT be allowed to govern.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at January 15, 2024 04:50 PM (PWI4f)

313 The media has just completely given up any semblance of honesty. It's just nonstop propaganda now.
Posted by: ace at January 15, 2024 03:57 PM (KRtlO)

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I remember buying a book some twenty years ago about media lapses from that year, now you could write a new book every day before lunch.

Posted by: Decaf at January 15, 2024 04:51 PM (3JfbU)

314 I must admit, I rarely get to delve into the rhythm of the weekday threads.

It's much different.

You're my peeps, but you're not good for my anxiety or my blood pressure.

GO BILLS!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 15, 2024 04:53 PM (/fpim)

315 Trump did not belong to the DC Facade party. I don't think Vivek does either. I would have thought DeSantis doesn't but the self-Scott-Walkering DeSantis is doing makes me wonder.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:53 PM (OaZlZ)

316 Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2024 04:50 PM (ZLI7S

After months of withholding his endorsement. An endorsement under duress ain’t much of an endorsement.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:54 PM (MNhXM)

317 As the Barky administration moved us along towards banana Republic, use the gub'mint against political opponents I had this image that some day there would be a clear demarcation that our government was now evil and I'd join a host of underground rebels like the French resistance working against the NAZIs.

Now? It seems like I'll wake up one day having been arrested and sentenced to a gulag while doing nothing more than venting a bit online and daring to vote for Trump.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 15, 2024 04:54 PM (3cGpq)

318 Uh, Obama used a drone to assassinate US Citizens, who were only suspected, never convicted, of Terrorism.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2024 04:54 PM (xaFKb)

319 Your memory ain’t so good either. Trump’s absurd attacks on Cruz still hurt him to this day. Might just be a cult thing though.
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You mean the "Fighting Conservative that Fights and is Fighting so Many Fights You Can't Name a Single Fight He's Won" Ted Cruz?

Might be cause Trump exposed him too?

No, gotta be the Cult of Trump at fault ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 15, 2024 04:54 PM (PFILT)

320 The political violence is going to get sporty. Soon. Perhaps sooner than we think. Given the left's telegraphing of their intentions.

How soon after that kicks off does the general public begin to get concerned?

Probably not for a while.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2024 04:54 PM (Q4IgG)

321 .

NOOD

Media Companies Posting Their L's: Google, Amazon, Instagram, Disney All Laying Off Employees

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 15, 2024 04:54 PM (qPw5n)

322 Getting close to bitchers and cashiers heading to Florida. And with that Oli "Bazbol be belly belly good to me" Marmol says:

[He] believes keys to Cardinals success this season will come from accountability and trust.

That, or hitters making contact, and fielders getting to balls hit in their general direction.

But sure, faith and trust and pixy dust leads to pennants.

Egad, I hate modern baseball.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2024 04:55 PM (Tzvqf)

323 The Disney Grooming Syndicate’s latest box office humiliation is so humiliating; after shaking my head in disbelief like a cartoon character, I had to double-check it.

But glory be, it’s true. It’s true!

Yes, Pixar’s Soul is a 2020 title produced for wide theatrical release and thwarted by all the stupid, anti-science social distancing during the pandemic. Yes, it was released on Disney+, the Disney Grooming Syndicate’s money-losing streaming service… I am a fair man who readily acknowledges all those caveats.

Still, y’all…

Soul, a feature-length animated film starring a black character, was released into 1,350 theaters over the Martin Luther King Jr. four-day holiday weekend and grossed exactly — get ready to laugh — $557,000.

That’s about 25 percent of the projected two million, which makes my heart sing.

On Friday, Soul grossed a measly $99 per theater.
http://tinyurl.com/ympdec9w

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 15, 2024 04:55 PM (2yu8s)

324 And just like in 2020, you can still count on the Republicans to sellout their own president at every opportunity, because selling to the highest bidder is what the Corporate Whore, Party of Lying, Coward Shitbags Who Can Go Fuck Themselves is great at doing.

Although we agree in spirit, I have to disagree in fact. The GOP DOES NOT sell out to the highest bidder. They'd never sell out to the public, even if the public was the highest bidder.

And the public was, in the Tea Party Wave. Their political contributions went to Nirvana. Their majorities were never better. Life was never easier for a Republican.

That's not what they wanted. Folks - and this will get push-back here, but I don't care. The leadership of the GOP, even though McConnell is from Kentucky, is still Old School Ivy League North East Republicanism.

The rest of us not living in the North East ? We won't find a party until we reject the party from the North East.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:56 PM (5cfJ1)

325 315 Trump did not belong to the DC Facade party. I don't think Vivek does either. I would have thought DeSantis doesn't but the self-Scott-Walkering DeSantis is doing makes me wonder.
Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:53 PM (OaZlZ)

Gotta admit at this point, I don't like Trump very much. He has done things I really don't agree with... BUT...

I see DC as the greater threat... and he IS an enemy of DC... they have made him one.

I will crawl over broken glass, to go vote for Trump... as I see his election as a cruise missile shot at DC.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2024 04:56 PM (xaFKb)

326 Preemptive projection?

These people are grotesque and incessantly compounding spectacle of psychosis never seen before. Where does it end? It doesn't, because it can't. Someone must stop it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 15, 2024 04:56 PM (bBXWy)

327 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 15, 2024 04:54 PM (PFILT)

It’s your choice to be ignorant on what Cruz has done and what individual Senators can do. If you don’t want to be called a cultist don’t belong to a cult.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:56 PM (MNhXM)

328 ALL the J6 material held by Congress, the FIB, the DOJ, the DOD and so forth should be released. Fuck their "confidential" sources. Fuck them.
Will it happen? Let's just say that those CIA/FIB files regarding the JFK assassination are still under wraps after 60+ years...

They've already burned it.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at January 15, 2024 04:56 PM (U8kCF)

329 25 out and going to drop. Never did get above freezing today, forecasts notwithstanding.

They're saying a low of 18, but it'll be more like 14 or 15.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 15, 2024 04:57 PM (4I/2K)

330 Your memory ain’t so good either. Trump’s absurd attacks on Cruz still hurt him to this day. Might just be a cult thing though.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:47 PM (MNhXM)
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Totally agree.

But I don't think I make it all that much better by deciding if Trump being unfair to Cruz is the sole weight on the scale.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2024 04:57 PM (OaZlZ)

331 "After months of withholding his endorsement. An endorsement under duress ain’t much of an endorsement."

Dodge.

Posted by: pawn at January 15, 2024 04:58 PM (QB+5g)

332 [I wouldn't vote for him if he decided to not weaponize the government. How about starting to toss leftists into the gulag with the J6 "insurrectionists."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 15, 2024 03:32 PM (/bnxD)

This is the only inaugural address I want from Trump: "Joseph Robinette Biden, you are under arrest for treason against the United States."

Then send a detachment of Marines to arrest every Democrat and 99% of the Republicans in congress and throw the bastards into Gitmo with no parole and no communication with the outside world.

Then on Day 2, send Seal Team 6 to drag Obama and Hillary to jail.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 15, 2024 04:45 PM
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Must... not..... fap....

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 15, 2024 04:58 PM (xT7BI)

333 Trump’s absurd attacks on Cruz still hurt him to this day. Might just be a cult thing though.
Posted by: Titanium White at January 15, 2024 04:47 PM (MNhXM)

Cruz not only has never apologized for calling J6 an 'insurrection,' he also voted to award medals of bravery to the capitol police scum who murdered Ashli Babbitt.

Cruz is a worthless, grandstanding, bloviating POS.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 15, 2024 04:59 PM (Q0kLU)

334 the new one will monitor O2 levels too

which is nice

knowing my heart rhythm at a glance helps with my anxiety (I guess that sounds weird)
Posted by: BlackOrchid, I meant to say at January 15, 2024 04:05 PM (AcWfM)

When your iPhone starts serving up ads for mortuary services, it's time to begin worrying.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 15, 2024 04:59 PM (tkR6S)

335 Then on Day 2, send Seal Team 6 to drag Obama and Hillary to jail.

I'd settle for Meal Team Six. They were enthusiastic, if nothing else.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 04:59 PM (5cfJ1)

336 Cruz is a worthless, grandstanding, bloviating POS.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 15, 2024 04:59 PM (Q0kLU)

He's like a lot of folks in the upper class. He's smart, to an extent. And he knows certain facts and customs that they, as the upper class, use as gates.

But put Ted Cruz on a chess board. Or cards. Or anything where he doesn't have inside early knowledge or the lever of money - and he's just equal to you and me ? Well, I like my chances. And the chances of at least half the folks here.

Ted's problem, like most of the rest, is he hasn't been humbled in exactly such a scenario in entirely too long.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 05:02 PM (5cfJ1)

337 Clear skies here now. Which means it's gonna get fuck-all cold tonight. Currently we're at a balmy -1.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at January 15, 2024 05:03 PM (T/Lqj)

338 ALL the J6 material held by Congress, the FIB, the DOJ, the DOD and so forth should be released. Fuck their "confidential" sources.

If you're a citizen ? Then no evidence is supposed to be "confidential". Everything is supposed to be above board. That's a great big part of the problem.

You can't commit treason without being a citizen. And you can't be a citizen without a full display of the evidence, in an open court of law. Not in in a functional Republic made of Free Men instead of Serfs.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 05:04 PM (5cfJ1)

339 313 The media has just completely given up any semblance of honesty. It's just nonstop propaganda now.
Posted by: ace

Why 'we' can be such a pita to AoSHQ on occasion, testing knowledge and truth.

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear. They only have to outrun us - for now at January 15, 2024 05:10 PM (GshMh)

340
This morning I mentioned my Bingo Card has 'assassination' on it. Biden's only chance. Trump or RFK Jr. Perhaps both are necessary.

Iowa is kinda important. Never Nikkky.

Vivek? Maybe.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 15, 2024 05:17 PM (nIvob)

341 338 ALL the J6 material held by Congress, the FIB, the DOJ, the DOD and so forth should be released. Fuck their "confidential" sources.

If you're a citizen ? Then no evidence is supposed to be "confidential". Everything is supposed to be above board. That's a great big part of the problem.

You can't commit treason without being a citizen. And you can't be a citizen without a full display of the evidence, in an open court of law. Not in in a functional Republic made of Free Men instead of Serfs.

Posted by: I Have No Party at January 15, 2024 05:04 PM (5cfJ1)

No Standing. --Judge Shitcan
Concur.--Judge Sullivan
Yup. And put a gag on them. --Judge Engoron

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 15, 2024 05:23 PM (ynpvh)

342 They will take all that you have and leave you with nothing, "for your own good."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 15, 2024 04:28 PM (BpYfr)

And you will be happy.

Posted by: Retired, thank God! at January 15, 2024 05:24 PM (9BIt9)

343 Is anyone else tired of seeing this buzzed. Hick gorging on eyedroppers full of Adderall over and over again between articles? Pharmaceutical Pron anyone?

Posted by: The Guy at January 15, 2024 05:45 PM (4cEdi)

344 "We're afraid Trump will politicize the military whose leaders Obama fired if they didn't pledge 100% loyalty to him and far left causes!"

The thing is everything the media keeps claiming Trump will do, is just going to make him more popular with conservatives. Day 1 needs to be cleaning day of all the political appointees in the military and government.

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