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Xi Tells His American Catspaw Joe Biden: We're Taking Taiwan Back
And there's nothing that Biden will do about it. He's been paid well for just this moment.
Chinese President Xi Jinping bluntly told President Joe Biden during their recent summit in San Francisco that Beijing will reunify Taiwan with mainland China but that the timing has not yet been decided, according to three current and former U.S. officials. Xi told Biden in a group meeting attended by a dozen American and Chinese officials that China's preference is to take Taiwan peacefully, not by force, the officials said.Yes but they told Biden they're taking it one way or the other. Even a warmonger would rather that his enemies surrender without a fight.
Now, for the leftwing propaganda media which rigged an election to get Biden installed into office to argue that this is no big deal, really, no sign at all that China thinks Biden is weak (and paid-off, and therefore compromised by blackmail material) and knows it can start a war without suffering consequences.
The Chinese leader also referenced public predictions by U.S. military leaders who say that Xi plans to take Taiwan in 2025 or 2027, telling Biden that they were wrong because he has not set a time frame, according to the two current and one former official briefed on the meeting. Chinese officials also asked in advance of the summit that Biden make a public statement after the meeting saying that the U.S. supports China's goal of peaceful unification with Taiwan and does not support Taiwanese independence, they said. The White House rejected the Chinese request.
Fuck you, Jake Sullivan.
Officials familiar with the conversation between Biden and Xi described the Chinese leader as blunt and candid, but not confrontational. "His language was no different than what he has always said. He is always tough on Taiwan. He's always had a tough line," said a U.S. official with knowledge of the conversation.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Peter Jackson at December 21, 2023 02:09 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:10 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:11 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: wth at December 21, 2023 02:11 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:12 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 02:12 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: nckate at December 21, 2023 02:12 PM (SnxUt)
I'm gonna guess it'll be in 2024
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (xcxpd)
Traitorous scum.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (gtmmu)
Xi told Biden in a group meeting attended by a dozen American and Chinese officials that China's preference is to take Taiwan peacefully, not by force, the officials said.
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If this is true - and who knows if it is - it really shows you how Xi treats Biden. He told Biden this ultimatum on American soil.
Yet, Xi owns Biden but not the entire system, and the sanctions started under Trump are hurting. The ones that amplified under Biden - and yes, some of them have - hurt even more.
If this is true, I don't know whether it's a genuine declaration or an attempt to regain some lost benefits from owning the Bidens. No clue.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: xi at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (R4t5M)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (5xURv)
It's like Elon said,
if the president told him to turn on his satellites on over Crimea he would have.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:14 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: Sun dude at December 21, 2023 02:14 PM (/6GbT)
Then, they implode every chip factory on the island, and the entire world steps back 30 years.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 21, 2023 02:14 PM (lTGtQ)
"His language was no different than what he has always said. He is always tough on Taiwan. He's always had a tough line," said a U.S. official with knowledge of the conversation.
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This is probably bullshit, but I dunno. Xi is trying to buy Taiwan and having some success with that venture and if he can avoid a war, he'd certainly like to. In that respect, it's true that there's nothing new here because Red China has always claimed Taiwan and Taiwan has always claimed independence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:14 PM (zxP/x)
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"China's Shenlong space plane caused intrigue this week after allegedly placing six unidentified objects into the Earth's orbit shortly after taking off on its third mission."
http://tinyurl.com/yc7exnjt
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:14 PM (Q5YAs)
And there's nothing that Biden will do about it. He's been paid well for just this moment.
I had my lackey show him the receipts.
Posted by: Xi Jinping at December 21, 2023 02:14 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 21, 2023 02:15 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:15 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
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It will be done before the election or not at all.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:15 PM (yc+Nx)
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Of course they did.
This is the one aspect of this that makes me think the lefty press' assessment isn't necessarily all that wide of the mark.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:15 PM (zxP/x)
Australia should be making all the stuff needed for batteries by then too.
So until then, China owns the leverage.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (5xURv)
Posted by: wth at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Rbastid at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (I762/)
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They're too busy moaning and groaning on TikTok to do anything else.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (Q5YAs)
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (miT2W)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (IG4Id)
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1) Make the largest communist country on Earth our biggest military and economic competitor.
2) ???
3) WINNING!
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (cMXNt)
To be fair, the CCP practice of sending the elites back to the rice paddies or executing them has some marit.
Posted by: Auspex at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (6ZtAH)
Posted by: brak at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (AR07F)
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (fwDg9)
All Xi has to do is flood the country with CCP beholden citizens, create a nation of Fentanyl addicts overdosing daily, through a nation into a tailspin with a Frankensteined virus.
Then repeat with Taiwan.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (5xURv)
Gotta do it before the 24' election... Or Jan 25' if a Republican is elected
Posted by: It's me donna at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (n2vyf)
I'm gonna guess it'll be in 2024
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (xcxpd)
Emperor Mudpants might not make to election day. And his internal polling is probably horrific. They got a chance now.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (R4t5M)
they said. The White House rejected the Chinese request.
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Sometimes Biden screws up and does the right thing.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (r9a0/)
I suspect we have the plans. I very much doubt they would be executed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (xT8gx)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 21, 2023 02:18 PM (woPEM)
I'm gonna guess it'll be in 2024
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (xcxpd)
Emperor Mudpants might not make to election day. And his internal polling is probably horrific. They got a chance now.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (R4t5M)
yup
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:18 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: brak at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (AR07F)
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Let's face it. China yuan.
Posted by: Biden's Dog smells a whole lotta malarkey, at December 21, 2023 02:18 PM (zvEEc)
Posted by: Rbastid at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (I762/)
No Yellow!!!
-Hunter, not stoned.
Posted by: Auspex at December 21, 2023 02:18 PM (6ZtAH)
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The request didn't come with a 10% kicker for the Big Guy.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:18 PM (pZ64F)
Right?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 21, 2023 02:18 PM (puDky)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (pZ64F)
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And an "Operation Paperclip" ready to sneak out their engineers and bring them here.
I doubt that there will be any destruction of high-end chip manufacturing or any exfiltration of designs and personnel. It'll just be game over in semiconductors. Japan has capability there and so does Korea, but nobody is where Taiwan is or can push their yields.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 21, 2023 02:18 PM (woPEM)
odds on a Chinese invasion of Japan?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Drive by at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: DOYLE at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:20 PM (4czJR)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 02:20 PM (uJbvW)
43 This isn't a regional issue. The world will be a very different place if China breaks through the first island chain.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 21, 2023 02:18 PM (woPEM
Think about this.
Most western countries have given Ukraine their weapon stocks. It's just now they are refusing to do more and trying to restock.
A lot of those weapons, including all the missiles and rockets need chips made in Taiwan.
So once China controls those or destroys those, no one is make more splodey missiles.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 21, 2023 02:20 PM (5xURv)
President reveals missiles were launched as he and Chinese counterpart had dessert after dinner at his Mar-a-Lago estate
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:20 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (xcxpd)
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Low. Japan is both (comparatively) far away and very well-defended, as well as overtly hostile with little Chinese subversion.
Look to the south.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:20 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (xcxpd)
* Divine Winds starts limbering up *
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 02:20 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Joe Super Dynamo at December 21, 2023 02:20 PM (gmo/4)
youtube.com/watch?v=aBDJQ9NYTEU
(Sorry for the lame humor in there. Why do so many youtubers think they know how to be funny?)
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (MvF+J)
I suspect we have the plans. I very much doubt they would be executed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Taiwan has their own contingency plans, and this is step two.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Tommy Vietor at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (ZV+pB)
But the point is, there's a timetable. Xi basically said so. He implicitly said China's armed forces would take Taiwan by force if they had to.
*spoiler: they'll have to.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (Q4IgG)
But it's an express threat of force, which hurries things up. I stick by my story. If an invasion proves necessary, it'll be late spring of next year, or maaaaaybe '25. But probably next year, while they can still count on Brandon.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (0FoWg)
"His language was no different than what he has always said. He is always tough on Taiwan. He's always had a tough line," said a U.S. official with knowledge of the conversation.
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This is probably bullshit, but I dunno. Xi is trying to buy Taiwan and having some success with that venture and if he can avoid a war, he'd certainly like to. In that respect, it's true that there's nothing new here because Red China has always claimed Taiwan and Taiwan has always claimed independence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:14 PM (zxP/x)
Xi's policy on Taiwan is actually the US diplomatic policy as well, agreed upon I-don't-know-when.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Willow Willow at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (ijGs/)
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (miT2W)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (xcxpd)
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Low. Japan is both (comparatively) far away and very well-defended, as well as overtly hostile with little Chinese subversion.
Look to the south.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:20 PM (zxP/x)
logically, I agree. But the anti-Japanese propaganda is strong in China. Revenge + politics....I could see it happen. Say 11% chance within 9 years of taking Taiwan.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:17 PM (pZ64F)
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And an "Operation Paperclip" ready to sneak out their engineers and bring them here.
I doubt that there will be any destruction of high-end chip manufacturing or any exfiltration of designs and personnel. It'll just be game over in semiconductors. Japan has capability there and so does Korea, but nobody is where Taiwan is or can push their yields.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (zxP/x)
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Find a Taiwan semiconductor company and I'll bet dollars to donuts that China already has its tentacles in it. See my comment above. China is very serious and plays the long game. The future belongs to countries like that. We ain't one.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Joe,Joe the Dynamo at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (n2vyf)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (lTGtQ)
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Taiwan is not defenseless, but you start getting into a lot of hypotheticals if there isn't an invasion but rather a coup (which is essentially what Xi's preference is).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 21, 2023 02:18 PM (woPEM)
odds on a Chinese invasion of Japan?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (xcxpd)
Not that high. Japan just isn't that close to areas China would seek to expand for the most part. India, Vietnam, Southeast Asia are more natural places for them to try and advance. Japan presents something of a threat, but not much opportunity for gain.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Willow Willow at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (ijGs/)
yes please?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
I suspect we have the plans. I very much doubt they would be executed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
How does that hurt China? They have their own fab centers in mainland China. That would just hurt us, who do not have other sources.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Joe,Joe the Dynamo at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (n2vyf)
odds on a Chinese invasion of Japan?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM
Unless Japan, Inc has some serious throw-weight nukes to throw back at China it may be game over for them.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (4czJR)
Posted by: Drive by at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:19 PM (xcxpd)
* Divine Winds starts limbering up *
Posted by: G'rump928
Godzilla levelling Beijing is gonna be lit!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (9yWhg)
http://tinyurl.com/m2ku97zp
Many contend that China has run out of time. Their economy is crumbling, their population growth is declining and aging, their available manpower is shrinking, and the difficulties of crossing a hundred miles of water to get there should not be minimized.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (zxP/x)
Or a nice, juicy False Flag event.
Is the Reichstag burning??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (5xURv)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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They have tentacles. They do not have capability. China has spent more than a decade trying to throw money at the high-end semiconductor problem, and failing at every turn. It's not a problem that can be solved with money. It requires sophisticated machinery and operational prowess that they do not have, and they don't have nearly enough design engineers.
Those problems go away if they get Taiwan.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:24 PM (zxP/x)
TikTok told them Taiwan deserved it.
Posted by: brak at December 21, 2023 02:24 PM (AR07F)
Hopefully someone is protecting the top tech, like the AI chips, or whatever they are called, along with our best tech. Isn't Taiwan moving some production to USA?
Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 02:24 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (FVME7)
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Infiltration through the political system seems to work without amphibian assaults reasonably well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
A military invasion of Taiwan is a nonstarter. A slow, steady buyout, on the other hand, makes more sense. Taiwan's last presidential election saw the right-wing winner defeat a pretty open China apologist. The next election, if I remember correctly, will feature the founder of Foxconn as one of the candidates. Seeing that his fortunes are inextricably tied to the Mainland's, I can see China making big inroads with reunification going forward.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 02:24 PM (tC98t)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist
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That may be a moment they are waiting for.
Actually, by agreements between Taiwan, Japan and other South Sea nations, an attack on Taiwan will be considered an attack on Japan.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:24 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (fKIdX)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Willow Willow
Yeah, but, unfortunately, not the good kind.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (eoQWY)
The PRC fab centers are nowhere near the technology of Taiwan TSMC. Ask Pixy.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (4czJR)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (eoQWY)
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They don't have modern fabs. They are a few generations behind. China dominates low-end chipmaking, but have very little high-end capacity. And destroying Taiwan's would hurt us very, very badly. It would hurt the rest of the world, too. It would be better than having it transfer to Beijing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (zxP/x)
There is a reason china asked for a US statement affirming their right to Taiwan, and it isn't confidence.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (lTGtQ)
It is on youtube, The title is:
Hoover Institution The Most Dangerous Moment: A Debate on America’s Role in the Pacific
They are two high level policy guys and they are sobering as hell. Things are very bleak. Their dispute is over what to do about Ukraine but that is incidental, the many discussion is about Taiwan.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (GYfUx)
Posted by: Pudinhead
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Peking
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (fKIdX)
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And Trump is beholden to foreign dictators.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (GBKbO)
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They, like Israel, do have them. And they will use them, too.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:26 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 02:26 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 02:26 PM (R4t5M)
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2023 02:26 PM (fwDg9)
An invasion of Japan would just be cuckoo.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:26 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: ET at December 21, 2023 02:26 PM (AMzZ8)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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They have tentacles. They do not have capability. China has spent more than a decade trying to throw money at the high-end semiconductor problem, and failing at every turn. It's not a problem that can be solved with money. It requires sophisticated machinery and operational prowess that they do not have, and they don't have nearly enough design engineers.
Those problems go away if they get Taiwan.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:24 PM (zxP/x)
Yep. China really needs ASML. They won't get them.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 02:26 PM (tC98t)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at December 21, 2023 02:26 PM (ZV+pB)
http://tinyurl.com/yc7exnjt
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:14 PM (Q5YAs)
Shades of Strieber and Kunetka's "Warday" where the Soviets dropped EMP weapons from objects that were previously thought to be, according to the book, "designated as unusually large communications relay satellites".
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 21, 2023 02:27 PM (/HDaX)
http://tinyurl.com/m2ku97zp
Many contend that China has run out of time. Their economy is crumbling, their population growth is declining and aging, their available manpower is shrinking, and the difficulties of crossing a hundred miles of water to get there should not be minimized.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (FVME7)
China's demographic problem lags the US's.
They could destroy their own economy through excessive government intervention, but otherwise a speculative bubble and recession is just a normal economic cycle.
Amphibious invasion of Taiwan would be very costly in lives, so even an attempt to take it by force may involve simply trying to blockade it until it surrenders however. That depends on China having sufficient naval and air power to ward off US intervention.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2023 02:27 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 02:27 PM (miT2W)
But I'm fine with that. I feel no pressing urge to lose a war with China.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 02:27 PM (0FoWg)
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What, like the northeast and midwest of America?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (
Pointless. The CCP's goal isn't to acquire the mfrs. It's to deny us access to them.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Archer at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
Yes, and Russia is out of artillery.
They tell lies to hide their shame. Shame for being incompetent. Shame for being controlled by our enemies.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (GYfUx)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (tThd/)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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They have tentacles. They do not have capability. China has spent more than a decade trying to throw money at the high-end semiconductor problem, and failing at every turn. It's not a problem that can be solved with money. It requires sophisticated machinery and operational prowess that they do not have, and they don't have nearly enough design engineers.
Those problems go away if they get Taiwan.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:24 PM (zxP/x)
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You might have missed my point. I agree with you. Hence why China is spending tons of money buying up industry and influence in Taiwan. Those are the "tentacles." I'd love to see the ownership of the Taiwanese semi industry. I'll bet China is already there. They will either eventually take it over, or they will steal all the IP. Either way, they'll get what they want, and nobody will stop them.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
That is how I see it. Too late for china to become a first rate power. Their population is declining at a faster rate than any other civilization in recorded history, and their economic situation is about five times worse than any financial bubble in history.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (lTGtQ)
tens of thousands of dead civilians played out on a media that's on China's side? I don't think anyone in leadership has the stomach for that
plus military-age Gen Z is completely dominated by TikTok, owned by China that would be screaming "war crime" 24/7
Posted by: brak at December 21, 2023 02:29 PM (AR07F)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent
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Remember that a couple of months ago, news came out that congresscritters were issued sat phones?
Pepperidge Farms remembers, to coin a meme.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:29 PM (Q5YAs)
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 02:26 PM (MvF+J)
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RAM and storage devices will get a bit more expensive but remain available, since a lot of that stuff is made in Korea and the United States. GPUs, AI accelerators and desktop processors are another story. We make some of that stuff (Intel) and other places like Korea and places in Europe have the capability but not the capacity. Entire companies' product lines vanish if TSMC goes. AMD, Apple and Nvidia are big names there.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:29 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:13 PM (IG4Id)
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1) Make the largest communist country on Earth our biggest military and economic competitor.
2) ???
3) WINNING!
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 21, 2023 02:16 PM (cMXNt)
I was saying that back in the 90s. Sadly, those guys have cashed in their stock options and are coking it out on some beach somewhere. The corporations, most of them long ago started finding themselves squeezed out by theft of their processes and patents by Chinese companies. The so called huge Chinese market is mostly closed to them.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:29 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: JM in Ill
Doesn't matter. They can turtle along with the current gen and tech. We would be locked out of all of it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:29 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 21, 2023 02:30 PM (as3uC)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 21, 2023 02:30 PM (dZVON)
I wouldn't bet against the Taiwanese in this.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 02:30 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: PG at December 21, 2023 02:30 PM (gQbO4)
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And their ships sink themselves.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:30 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: Gref at December 21, 2023 02:30 PM (5fDan)
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How big and effective is China's Navy? There is no way in hell they can import the essentials they need via the Belt and Road. We may see a blockade within a blockade.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:30 PM (pZ64F)
http://tinyurl.com/yc7exnjt
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:14 PM (Q5YAs)
Were they manufactured by Drax Industries?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 21, 2023 02:30 PM (N3zMI)
Posted by: Ripley at December 21, 2023 02:31 PM (JojsZ)
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What, like the northeast and midwest of America?
Posted by: Pudinhead a
It was never int danger of bursting. There were satellite photos that showed "cracks" and "bulging" but were an obvious artifact of the photography. This was such bad propaganda that I thought it had to be a joke, or a black herring to discredit any real problems. Not sure but it was never in danger of bursting.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 02:31 PM (GYfUx)
Pepperidge Farms remembers, to coin a meme.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:29 PM (Q5YAs)
Indeed.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 21, 2023 02:31 PM (/HDaX)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (IG4Id)
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They want them, too. The high-end chip embargo is hurting.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:31 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Pretty sure that Taiwan has a bullseye on the Three Gorges Dam.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:31 PM (Q5YAs)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
I wonder where one of the destinations of the CHiComm border crossers could be.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 02:31 PM (R4t5M)
Posted by: Willow Willow at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (ijGs/)
yes please?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
Your wish is my command:
http://tinyurl.com/3ndd885j
Goes to a Small Dead Animals post from a few days ago. I've been hoping to use it...
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (TTAGa)
Another speculative opportunity if you anticipate war: short the stocks of those companies.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (MvF+J)
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Yeah, that won't piss them off or rally the troops at all.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (eV1Bu)
Posted by: Archer at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (gmo/4)
No, it isn't. And unless they've been practicing, they won't be able to do it. Taiwan is a large island.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (tC98t)
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The technology that fuels TSMC is Dutch.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
Washington DC is a prime example of this.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 02:33 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (iFTx/)
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No, I haven't. They're already buying and stealing everything they can, but the IP isn't valuable without the ability to manufacture it. China doesn't have that ability, and has been failing to develop or acquire it.
The more important tentacles aren't in the chip industry, but in the Taiwan government. Execute a coup or get Taiwan to agree to an anschluss and the problems largely go away, at least for the current and next generations.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:33 PM (zxP/x)
China, at least, is a serious nation. The only things the USA is serious about are sodomy and ethnically cleansing White people.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at December 21, 2023 02:33 PM (0Uf+z)
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The world is about to get a major wakeup call.
No doubt about that.
Just a matter of when.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:33 PM (Q5YAs)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace
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Hey! Merry Christmas.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:33 PM (yc+Nx)
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Speaking as a Norman descendent, it can be done.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:34 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: Willow Willow at December 21, 2023 02:21 PM (ijGs/)
yes please?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (xcxpd)
Your wish is my command:
http://tinyurl.com/3ndd885j
Goes to a Small Dead Animals post from a few days ago. I've been hoping to use it...
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (TTAGa)
And I thought Million Dollar Baby was depressing...
Save the Big Breasted Women!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:34 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2023 02:34 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
This is the problem. They outsourced everything to an insecure location. Fuck them.
But they have power and only want a continuation of business. China will guarantee that, but only long enough for the execs to get paid off. The the tech and the markets will become Chinese owned and the US companies will become hollow shells.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 02:34 PM (GYfUx)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
Yes, and Russia is out of artillery.
They tell lies to hide their shame. Shame for being incompetent. Shame for being controlled by our enemies.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (GYfUx)
The Demo bubble is real and is causing some real social distress, but that still leaves a population far larger than any country but India sitting on a high tech base. They already produce far more "real stuff" than the US, even a decrease isn't going to reduce them to poverty and irrelevance.
Europe's demographic problems are nearly as bad, and are getting worse with the 'modern women' forgetting to have children until they are 47.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:34 PM (eoQWY)
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How big and effective is China's Navy? There is no way in hell they can import the essentials they need via the Belt and Road. We may see a blockade within a blockade.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:30 PM (pZ64F)
It's gone from virtually nonexistent to having some old Russian carriers and overhauling them as of a decade ago, I don't know where they stand today but modernizing their military has been a big focus for Xi. Quick internet search seems to indicate their navy is still expanding at a fairly rapid clip.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2023 02:34 PM (eYoxG)
PolitiFact
@PolitiFact
We don’t use the word “lie” lightly at PolitiFact. Our Lie of the Year looks back at the most significant falsehood that tried to undermine truth in 2023.
The 2023 Lie of the Year goes to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s campaign of conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:35 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:35 PM (Q5YAs)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (pZ64F)
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Dutch-American.
But TSMC has the know-how. Running those fabs isn't easy, and keeping the machinery running isn't, either. Intel is very good at it, too, as are special-purpose players like Broadcom in lower-end chips - but nobody has the custom chip capacity and production levels that TSMC does. They're very, very good at what they do.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:35 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
You'd think that Ukraine and Russia would have already provided that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:35 PM (xcxpd)
While we allow millions of Non American men into the country illegally...
While the current administration has done everything it can to alienate the very Men who historically have defended this once Great Nation?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 21, 2023 02:36 PM (xaFKb)
Besides the word clusterfucks that will come outta Joe's mouth, the sharks in the Taiwan Strait need a good feeding.
Tell those Red Chinamen to hurry up, while I'm young.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 21, 2023 02:36 PM (puDky)
PolitiFact
@PolitiFact
We don’t use the word “lie” lightly at PolitiFact. Our Lie of the Year looks back at the most significant falsehood that tried to undermine truth in 2023.
The 2023 Lie of the Year goes to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s campaign of conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:35 PM (FVME7)
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Interesting that they chose RFK instead of something from Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:36 PM (GBKbO)
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The news that I've been seeing is about Foxconn shutting down factories in the PRC and relocating to Vietnam. I'm getting the feeling that Foxconn doesn't like the PRC all that much anymore.
Posted by: junior at December 21, 2023 02:37 PM (opjBt)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (GBKbO)
You'd think that Ukraine and Russia would have already provided that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:35 PM (xcxpd)
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Nah, that war is awesome because Putin helped Trump. Also, there are no civilian casualties because their bodies aren't on the front page of the NYT daily.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:37 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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We probably can't afford to do this. We need TSMC product too much ourselves.
Right now, America has plenty of say in TSMC but China will invade Taiwan and the balance of power will substantially shift.
Americans need to understand what China knows: controlling Taiwan means future technological dominance is at stake. If South Korea is then lost, which will be the next goal, the west simply becomes dependent on China. Taiwan and South Korea are the world's source of chips, and modern life is not possible without them.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 21, 2023 02:37 PM (H4Drt)
Europe's demographic problems are nearly as bad, and are getting worse with the 'modern women' forgetting to have children until they are 47.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:34 PM (eoQWY)
The decline will be steeper but we peak about a decade before them iirc. I think China's relative peak in strength to the US is ahead, not behind us, though it's fair to say a lot of that is US decline.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2023 02:37 PM (eYoxG)
Like most everything else coming out of China these days, all the shit they're building to wage war is shit.
But throw enough shit and sooner or later it's bound to stick.
Taiwan cannot afford a protracted conflict with China for more than a week, maybe two. China, OTOH, has plenty of time and shit to throw at it. And if they're using a similar approach to Taiwan that they used to overthrow the US government, they may not even have to fire a shot.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 02:37 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 21, 2023 02:38 PM (eYF7X)
If Joe has to dodder instead of run, that's all good.
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at December 21, 2023 02:38 PM (tbSPP)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:28 PM (IG4Id)
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They want them, too. The high-end chip embargo is hurting.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
They see the high end as critical to having control. AI, their surveillance system, defense technology,... it all hinges on being one generation ahead of your adversary.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 02:38 PM (GYfUx)
The 2023 Lie of the Year goes to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s campaign of conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:35 PM (FVME7)
Conspiracy theories aren't provable. How can they be called lies?
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 02:38 PM (miT2W)
Posted by: runner at December 21, 2023 02:38 PM (V13WU)
Pretty sure that Taiwan has a bullseye on the Three Gorges Dam.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:31 PM (Q5YAs)
I understand that the dam is heavily defended with SAMs. Unless Taiwan has ballistic missiles, they may be stopped.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (4czJR)
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2023 02:34 PM (fwDg9)
Party Congress in '22.
Xi had to finish his final consolidation of power before lunging at Taiwan, and immortality.
This timeline was easy to call, if you ask me.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: junior at December 21, 2023 02:37 PM (opjBt)
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Foxconn is mercenary. There are two big things at play with Foxconn. One is that their operations on the mainland aren't lucrative enough to be a single source anymore when Vietnamese and Indian labor is cheaper. Another is that Foxconn's customers - Apple, for example - are no longer comfortable with Red China as the dominant location for manufacturing. Foxconn's customers are increasingly demanding supply chain diversity, and Foxconn is responding to those demands by building factories elsewhere.
It's not just Foxconn's dynamic, either.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (zxP/x)
They are working on their third home built carrier, but are having problems figuring out Catapult systems.
Problem is, Land based aircraft and missile systems can cover an amphibious assault...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (xaFKb)
Taiwan cannot afford a protracted conflict with China for more than a week, maybe two. China, OTOH, has plenty of time and shit to throw at it. And if they're using a similar approach to Taiwan that they used to overthrow the US government, they may not even have to fire a shot.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 02:37 PM (Q4IgG)
Quantity has a quality all of it's own...
-Shit Some Russian Dude Said
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (uJbvW)
We don’t use the word “lie” lightly at PolitiFact. Our Lie of the Year looks back at the most significant falsehood that tried to undermine truth in 2023.
The 2023 Lie of the Year goes to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s campaign of conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:35 PM (FVME7)
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Interesting that they chose RFK instead of something from Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:36 PM (GBKbO)
They also don't provide a specific 'lie', I see
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (xcxpd)
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It is. I guess there are to be no moar white guy presidents for teh Dems?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (pZ64F)
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The technology that fuels TSMC is Dutch.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:32 PM (pZ64F)
ASML. They make arguably the most complicated machines mankind has ever created. They are the only company in the world that can make them, and their future production is already spoken for. The USA has already forbidden them from even speaking to the Chinese about getting one of their devices. Even if they happened to get hold of one, which costs at least $300 million (and rising), they wouldn't know how to operate it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (tC98t)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (eoQWY)
The PRC fab centers are nowhere near the technology of Taiwan TSMC. Ask Pixy.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (4czJR)
So they can't do AI pictures, but can do Hypersonic missiles.
I wouldn't trust our intel on anything on this matter. The Chinese can keep a secret and have penetrated every business in the US.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (eoQWY)
Hamas launched its death squads on October 7th.
You know whose birthday is on October 7th?
VLADMIR VLADMIROVICH PUTIN!!!
Putin did this to distract from Ukraine, of course.
And the only reason why Hamas could get through the Israeli border defenses is because Russian intelligence told Hamas how to do it. (I have not seen this claim anywhere else.)
The good news is since the cost of supporting Ukraine and Israel is only 5% of our defense budget, we can fully fund both the wars in Ukraine and in Israel indefinitely, no problem.
Say hello to Trump's vice presidential candidate.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 21, 2023 02:40 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: Bud Norton at December 21, 2023 02:40 PM (6cOMd)
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There is none. China does not have a history of conquest. Their history is being China.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:40 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:36 PM (GBKbO)
They also don't provide a specific 'lie', I see
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (xcxpd)
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Going against the narrative is lie enough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:40 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (uJbvW)
They're practicing in the Middle East by getting involved in those small scale local conflicts like the US does.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2023 02:40 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Lost in Space at December 21, 2023 02:41 PM (A85W2)
All the USA women's studies majors will see the light, learn to code, and save the day. No worries ... and isn't acceptance/approval of the "trans agenda" the most important thing, anyway?
Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 02:41 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:36 PM (GBKbO)
They also don't provide a specific 'lie', I see
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (xcxpd)
Traitors in the midst are always more dangerous than overt enemies. RFK might split the vote and upset the normal amount they need to steal.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:41 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Pudinhead
Tibet would like a word with you.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:41 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:40 PM (GBKbO)
Ah. So a 'politifact' isn't a real 'fact'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:41 PM (xcxpd)
I used to know this. The seas are very rough most of the year, but there is a two month or so window when everyone is on high alert because it is the only real window for invasion.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 02:42 PM (GYfUx)
-Shit Some Russian Dude Said
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (TTAGa)
Russian?
Posted by: M4 Sherman Tank at December 21, 2023 02:42 PM (xaFKb)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:40 PM (GBKbO)
Ah. So a 'politifact' isn't a real 'fact'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:41 PM (xcxpd)
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Welcome to 2007, the year Politifact was founded.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:43 PM (GBKbO)
When the Chinese Communists inflict these humiliations on our government, it's worth remembering how obsessed their culture is with status and face.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 21, 2023 02:43 PM (xPNeT)
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:43 PM (fRSVe)
I wouldn't trust our intel on anything on this matter. The Chinese can keep a secret and have penetrated every business in the US.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (eoQWY)
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It goes beyond that, and you don't need to trust our intel officials. Trade flows tell the tale. China imports (or used to import) staggering amounts of high-end chips. They wouldn't if they could build them domestically. It's a major cost center even before the noose started tightening. It's the primary reason Xi has been hurling money at the semiconductor industry.
That has paid some dividends, just not very good ones. China now does have home-grown x86 processors, RISC processors and graphics/AI accelerators, they just aren't very good and most of it is based on stolen designs (going to Elric's point up there) that they subsequently adapted. All of it is a couple of generations behind.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:43 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Pudinhead
Tibet would like a word with you.
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Meh. Tibet is easy to occupy. There are a shit ton of Chinamen.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:44 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:44 PM (fRSVe)
http://tinyurl.com/3ndd885j
Goes to a Small Dead Animals post from a few days ago. I've been hoping to use it...
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit
CBD needs to feature that on the art thread.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:44 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:44 PM (ZabZM)
Posted by: RebeccaH at December 21, 2023 02:44 PM (Nvors)
Maybe I'm imagining that.
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 02:44 PM (miT2W)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 02:45 PM (R4t5M)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton
I was thinking more the White House.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:45 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: bearski at December 21, 2023 02:45 PM (Bhsk7)
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Yeah, he does.
Courtesy of Satan.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 21, 2023 02:46 PM (ZabZM)
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:46 PM (zxP/x)
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On the other hand, the PLAN has been suffering some major embarrassments recently, the biggest being the loss of an entire submarine crew (save one survivor) a month or two ago. The PLAN doesn't appear to be as bad as the Russian navy. But it also doesn't appear to be as good as the USN (yes, even the current USN).
Posted by: junior at December 21, 2023 02:46 PM (opjBt)
And I guess the hypersonic stuff is kinda important as ell.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 02:46 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 02:45 PM (R4t5M)
Have you priced smokes lately? That's like Grand Theft now.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 21, 2023 02:46 PM (xaFKb)
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Dayum!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:47 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Pudinhead
Tibet would like a word with you.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:41 PM (9yWhg)
Presumably he means sweeping over vast territories in a rapid series of conquests. China was historically so large and with a sufficiently difficult internal power struggle that further expansion was very risky. Lose the expeditionary army, even if it's easily replaceable on paper, and the entire country could be thrown into chaos as more local powers within China start to assert themselves.
Not sure how true that is today, but modern China certainly doesn't have the fiercely militant culture of ancient Qin (where military accomplishment was the path to wealth and status).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2023 02:47 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:23 PM (eoQWY)
The PRC fab centers are nowhere near the technology of Taiwan TSMC. Ask Pixy.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:25 PM (4czJR)
So they can't do AI pictures, but can do Hypersonic missiles.
I wouldn't trust our intel on anything on this matter. The Chinese can keep a secret and have penetrated every business in the US.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (eoQWY)
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And 5th-gen fighters. I tend to agree with you. It's true that China might not right now have the semi tech that Taiwan does. But if the tech exists, it can be stolen or bought or otherwise duplicated. It's only a matter of time.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:47 PM (iFTx/)
I would guess there is no contingency plan to target the Three Stooges Dam.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 21, 2023 02:47 PM (biznJ)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 21, 2023 02:37 PM (H4Drt)
"Modern life". Seems to me that this nation might be a much better place without some of it. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 02:47 PM (BdMk6)
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There is none. China does not have a history of conquest. Their history is being China.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 21, 2023 02:40 PM (pZ64F)
There was a Commie Chinese peace keeper force in some African shithole a few years ago. The camp they were supposed to protect came under fire. The commies hunkered down and hid during the attack. I believe they were then yanked back home soon after.
Posted by: Beartooth at December 21, 2023 02:47 PM (kxx6d)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:44 PM (9yWhg)
I wanted to send it to him, but didn't have his address...
And I was too lazy to ask.
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:47 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:48 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Ex GOP at December 21, 2023 02:48 PM (qS8WV)
Nope, Xi is waiting for the American economy to implode, which it is about to due to government overspending causing inflation.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 21, 2023 02:48 PM (xaFKb)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
Vernon Dent is formulating one as we speak.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:48 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 21, 2023 02:48 PM (lTGtQ)
RNC Research
@RNCResearch
KIRBY: "We believe we've done a good job...to try to get at some of the root causes" of illegal immigration
http://tinyurl.com/w62c3htr
Posted by: redridinghood at December 21, 2023 02:49 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:35 PM (xcxpd)
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America and most of the world has no idea what a meat grinder Ukraine is.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:49 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: Lost in Space at December 21, 2023 02:49 PM (A85W2)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 21, 2023 02:48 PM (lTGtQ)
They've never won an external war.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (tC98t)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:46 PM (zxP/x)
Hee-Haw: After Dark
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Aspiring Codger at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (xPJvm)
This busty, shirtless brunette in strategically-placed overalls didn't think that she'd experience the death of an empire:
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
You gonna be in this thread for a while? Like an hour? Because I need to carefully inspect this picture and point out her imperfections. As soon as I find one.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (enJYY)
KIRBY: "We believe we've done a good job...to try to get at some of the root causes" of illegal immigration ...
Posted by: redridinghood at December 21, 2023 02:49 PM (NpAcC)
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Here you go. No charge.
1. Their countries are shitholes
2. This country considers "I'm front a shithole" to qualify for "refugee" status
3. The door is open to "refugees."
Change 2, 3 or both to solve the problem.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (zxP/x)
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Wow. Mannix is on an excellent roll today.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Lost in Space at December 21, 2023 02:49 PM (A85W2)
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"America saw that and came together in the days after the election to provide the ballots Biden needed to keep it going."
-National Review, 84% probability
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (FVME7)
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:46 PM (zxP/x)
WOW
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 02:51 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:51 PM (gl2Sv)
This busty, shirtless brunette in strategically-placed overalls didn't think that she'd experience the death of an empire:
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
You gonna be in this thread for a while? Like an hour? Because I need to carefully inspect this picture and point out her imperfections. As soon as I find one.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (enJYY)
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Split ends.
2/10
Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
let me know when a single country is willing to send their troops over to help our "southern" invasion.
Posted by: Blago at December 21, 2023 02:51 PM (KjeR+)
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Time is not exactly on the PRC's side, either. For instance, if the USN were to blockade shipments from the Persian Gulf to the PRC, the PRC would be in big trouble pretty quickly.
Posted by: junior at December 21, 2023 02:51 PM (opjBt)
-Shit Some Russian Dude Said
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:39 PM (TTAGa)
Russian?
Posted by: M4 Sherman Tank at December 21, 2023 02:42 PM (xaFKb)
Does Comrade Stalin know of this?
Posted by: browndog getting really tired of all this shit at December 21, 2023 02:51 PM (TTAGa)
"The real-estate bubble!" "The chip embargo!" "The demographic crisis!" "Their military is untested!" "Their equipment is crap!" "Xi is losing his grip on power!"
"The Russians are out of ammo!" "They're fighting with shovels!" "Putin is dying!" "Their generals have all been killed!" "The financial sanctions are working!" "The glorious Ukrainian counteroffensive!" "The Ghost of Kiev!"
I mean, holy shit, it's the same people telling us the same fucking lies. How many times are we going to fall for it?
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at December 21, 2023 02:52 PM (0Uf+z)
Posted by: Thomas Paine
The China of 2023 isn't remotely comparable to the China of '79.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:52 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 21, 2023 02:48 PM (lTGtQ)
They've never won an external war.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (tC98t)
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We'd probably lose to Vietnam today too, though. We couldn't even pull out of Afghan without fucking the pig.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:52 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: leber at December 21, 2023 02:52 PM (rovGg)
And I guess the hypersonic stuff is kinda important as ell.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 02:46 PM (Cus5s)
The hot war in Ukraine is being done that way, and the current drone war in Yemen is causing major embarrassment - the Red Sea closed to all traffic but Russian Oil, US ships worried that trading expensive ordnance for cheap drones is a bad trade, and the Brits discovering that their destroyers have a tendency to stop functioning and all need to have an additional generator added requiring long drydock times.
Russia also is getting tons of experience in *halting* drone swarms as it is the one weapon Ukraine has that is effective to some extent. And all this information is being shared with China because the US and EU decided to be a more proximate threat to Russia than China might become.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:53 PM (eoQWY)
And 5th-gen fighters. I tend to agree with you. It's true that China might not right now have the semi tech that Taiwan does. But if the tech exists, it can be stolen or bought or otherwise duplicated. It's only a matter of time.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Because they have the blueprint doesn't mean they have the skill to use it.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:53 PM (yc+Nx)
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Why would we do that?
Posted by: Nikki Haley at December 21, 2023 02:53 PM (Svf47)
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 21, 2023 02:53 PM (gl2Sv)
2/10
Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at
Maybe not but I would, if asked, help her with yard work.
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 02:53 PM (miT2W)
Territorial disputes and China go hand in hand.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 02:53 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Ex GOP at December 21, 2023 02:48
This is my bet. No later than '25, but probably '24.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 02:53 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 21, 2023 02:48 PM (lTGtQ)
They've never won an external war.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 02:50 PM (tC98t)
They've conquered Vietnam and ruled it for long stretches a couple of times. China's current size is a lot larger than when it was unified under Qin, even disregarding Manchuria and the Northwest. The country has had a tendency to implode into civil war when the central government loses a major battle though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2023 02:54 PM (eYoxG)
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IIRC, there's one around October. I think there's another, though I can't remember when.
Posted by: junior at December 21, 2023 02:54 PM (opjBt)
And 5th-gen fighters. I tend to agree with you. It's true that China might not right now have the semi tech that Taiwan does. But if the tech exists, it can be stolen or bought or otherwise duplicated. It's only a matter of time.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Because they have the blueprint doesn't mean they have the skill to use it.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:53 PM (yc+Nx)
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Maybe not yet. But they will.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:54 PM (iFTx/)
It should be done.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:54 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: leber at December 21, 2023 02:52 PM (rovGg)
China's a bigger country than the Yellow River valley and always has been. A lot of high tech area is down by Hong Kong, and there is Hong Kong too.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:54 PM (eoQWY)
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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yikes! would bang.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 21, 2023 02:55 PM (MqOEd)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:49 PM (yc+Nx)
That fat bastard Winston Churchill said about as much when the Germans were ground up in Russia during WW2. I think he said the Russian Meat Grinder used in Finland worked just fine on the Germans too or something like that.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 21, 2023 02:55 PM (puDky)
Maybe not yet. But they will.
Posted by: Elric Blade a
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As soon as they get the hatches on their submarines to seal.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:55 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: Thomas Paine
That was in 1979 and China did not do well. I suppose they won in that they characterized it as raid rather than a land grab.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 02:55 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2023 02:55 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 02:56 PM (RHGPo)
Next up: China has always been a kind and friendly nation that America turned into an enemy through its racist, colonialist, imperialist, etc etc
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 21, 2023 02:56 PM (n7rxJ)
Maybe not yet. But they will.
Posted by: Elric Blade a
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As soon as they get the hatches on their submarines to seal.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:55 PM (yc+Nx)
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Do ours? I recall our Navy can't keep our ships from crashing into each other . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:57 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 02:56 PM (RHGPo)
++++
What a humiliation this government is. This isn't an unexpected question from anyone. No canned statement? No "elevator pitch?"
What the hell do these people *do* all day?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:57 PM (zxP/x)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:57 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: SMOD
"Achievement"
Singular
I too wonder what 'it' was.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 21, 2023 02:57 PM (cOq4q)
What the hell do these people *do* all day?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:57 PM (zxP/x)
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Visit Congress?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:57 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Thomas Paine
The China of 2023 isn't remotely comparable to the China of '79.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 02:52 PM (IG4Id)
Nor is Viet Nam. They had a large and extremely experienced army from the war with us ready to go, and rough terrain to defend on.
Not totally familiar with their current defense status, but it can't be as good as that these days.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:58 PM (eoQWY)
yeah, the small drones are cheap and somewhat effective. But those are mostly operated individually. The drone swarms could be hundreds, or thousands, of small explosive drones that overwhelm most defenses.
And with good AI chips, could seek specific targets, perhaps even facial recognition. Scary concepts ahead. I hope we are keeping up, not not so sure.
But infiltration as with the Bidens seems the preferred route of conquest. Russia and China are involved in S America, as I hear it.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 02:58 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 02:58 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 02:57 PM (GBKbO)
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Have congress in Congress.
Posted by: The Dude at December 21, 2023 02:58 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 02:56 PM (RHGPo)
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What a humiliation this government is. This isn't an unexpected question from anyone. No canned statement? No "elevator pitch?"
What the hell do these people *do* all day?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 02:57 PM (zxP/x)
_______________________
[Giggles]
-- That Assfucked Guy in the Senate
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: junior
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They have three operational carriers. They built two which apparently leak badly due to the use of substandard steel. They got the other from the Russians.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (uJbvW)
The press would print that as truth.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (miT2W)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (9yWhg)
There are other ways to take over a country beside bombs and missiles.
Look around here.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 03:00 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (9yWhg)
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I thought it was the Moskva. I'm probably wrong.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM (ScR16)
Diversity, Equity and Inclusion is MUCH more important that winning some silly war.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM (Cus5s)
.. so true
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (RHGPo)
All odds are against him
With a family to provide for
But one thing he must keep alive
Will the Lump survive?...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM (puDky)
Posted by: leber at December 21, 2023 02:52 PM (rovGg)
I don't think you realize how massive that dam is. It's going to take more than a few cruise missiles to burst it. Maybe a nuke.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Oglebay at December 21, 2023 03:02 PM (ogTiX)
Everyone is worried that he will reveal the details of the air machine on Mars.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 03:02 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 02:49 PM (yc+Nx)
That fat bastard Winston Churchill said about as much when the Germans were ground up in Russia during WW2. I think he said the Russian Meat Grinder used in Finland worked just fine on the Germans too or something like that.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 21, 2023 02:55 PM (puDky)
Ukraine let something slip in their campaign for more money - they need 20000 men a month to keep up the current strength. They are planning a new draft, which would be the tenth. They lost about 175000 KIA and serious WIA in the summer offensive to take a scattering of little villages that both Ukraine and Russia have hundreds to thousands of.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (eoQWY)
See also: trump said pussy
Posted by: Nikki Haley at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (Svf47)
—Disinformation Expert Ace
Maybe "puppet" instead of "cat's-paw"?
cat's-paw |ˈkatsˌpô|
noun
a person who is used by another, typically to carry out an unpleasant or dangerous task.
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (x7m+Z)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM (BdMk6)
The water will do the work with even a small breach.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (aD39U)
And the US probably does not want to go to war with China over Taiwan.
But Xi told Biden he is willing to take Taiwan peacefully. This change is because of the Russian invasion going badly.
Biden has promised to defend Taiwan if attacked, so I am not loving the high probability of that happening. I doubt we could just send them weapons like with Ukraine.
Why is Xi is obsessed with taking over tiny Taiwan? His country needs stability now, not a war. But dictators don't give a shit about their own people.
Thank Trump for the rampant global instability.
Honestly if that is exactly what he said it's not any different than what they've said for years. He didn't say "Hey Joe we don't care, we're invading next year". He said pretty much what has been said for 40 years.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (JCZqz)
A mere five years after the Second World War, we were damned near pushed off the Korean peninsula by a novice army fielding second-hand Soviet gear. Finely-honed armies can be dulled really quick.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (CwhoI)
See you from that long road
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: NikeM at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (VymGc)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Yes. Although I think it was actually Ukranian when sold.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (uJbvW)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 21, 2023 02:22 PM (eYoxG)
Revenge for Nanjing may be on their minds.
Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 02:59 PM (9yWhg)
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I thought it was the Moskva. I'm probably wrong.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea
According to Wiki, the Russians sold the Varyag to China. The Varyag was a big deal when I was a Russian linguist in the Navy in the early 90s.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (x7m+Z)
I don't think you realize how massive that dam is. It's going to take more than a few cruise missiles to burst it. Maybe a nuke.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM
All you gotta do is break it in one spot. The massive weight of the water behind it and pouring through that single area will take care of the rest.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 21, 2023 03:05 PM (enJYY)
________________
They got one from the Russians... and it's used for training. It's called the "Liaoning" and was the old Varyag. The other carrier in service is called "Shandong" and is a Chinese built copy of "Liaoning." The third is being outfitted. It's called the "Fujian." It is similar to our non-nuclear "super-carriers" that were around during the cold war. Although with modern electronics, weapons, etc. It even has EMALS... electromagnetic catapults.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 03:05 PM (Q4IgG)
Honestly if that is exactly what he said it's not any different than what they've said for years. He didn't say "Hey Joe we don't care, we're invading next year". He said pretty much what has been said for 40 years.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (JCZqz)
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Love it.
"All of this is Trump's fault." (implication that Putin invaded Ukraine on Trump's watch)
"This is the same as it always is."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 03:05 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Yes. Although I think it was actually Ukranian when sold.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
According to Wiki, that is correct. I had missed that when I first skimmed the article.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: leber at December 21, 2023 02:52 PM (rovGg)
I don't think you realize how massive that dam is. It's going to take more than a few cruise missiles to burst it. Maybe a nuke.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM (BdMk6)
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My mom saw it. She also saw the Hoover dam. 3G is so huge it makes Hoover look like a beaver dam.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (iFTx/)
Giuliani Files For Bankruptcy After $148 Million Verdict
.. I think his wife got most of his assets years ago
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM (BdMk6)
The water will do the work with even a small breach.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (aD39U)
I think you overestimate the effectivness of surface explosives on concrete. The WWII Dam Busters just didnt lob bombs and the face of the dam, because that wouldn't work. They used a pressure wave in the water itself on the back side.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)
@KDORR_USA 4m
Wow - Numerous families in RINO
@dolan4ohio 's legislative district are about to lose their homes to eminent domain and Dolan has refused to lift a finger to help them.
This guy doesn't belong anywhere near the US Senate #OHSen Full story: https://newsmax.com...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2023 03:07 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (9yWhg)
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My knowledge of Russian naval vessels is way out of date.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2023 03:07 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 03:07 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Weasel at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (JwHpX)
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (x7m+Z)
Timing is everything.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)
Maybe a troll post earlier in the thread will get nuked and then ....
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (x7m+Z)
Posted by: Elric Blade
In the early 2000s, I read an article about the world's largest beaver dam at that time, in Canada. It was so large it could be seen from space.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (9yWhg)
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They talking about Xi or Biden?
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (plCv7)
Not totally familiar with their current defense status, but it can't be as good as that these days
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Vietnam just signed a military agreement with Japan.
Posted by: junior at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (opjBt)
310 I don't think you realize how massive that dam is. It's going to take more than a few cruise missiles to burst it. Maybe a nuke.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 03:01 PM (BdMk6)
The water will do the work with even a small breach.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (aD39U)
I think you overestimate the effectivness of surface explosives on concrete. The WWII Dam Busters just didnt lob bombs and the face of the dam, because that wouldn't work. They used a pressure wave in the water itself on the back side.
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The Andromeda is ready for her next mission.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (ogTiX)
Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (iFTx/)
Its also pretty far inland. Cruise missiles don't have infinite range.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 03:09 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (9yWhg)
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That's a lot of beaver.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2023 03:09 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 21, 2023 03:09 PM (CwhoI)
Maybe a troll post earlier in the thread will get nuked and then ....
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (x7m+Z)
There's always hope.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:10 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 21, 2023 03:03 PM (CwhoI)
In fairness, we had essential no combat troops in South Korea when the war started. We rushed the 24th ID over from Japan piecemeal and threw them into the line as hundreds at a time.
The Norks can across with 75K troops and tanks.
Task Force Smith had a tough job.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 03:10 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 03:11 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:10 PM (9yWhg)
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Wasn't it bulging due to very heavy rains last year?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2023 03:11 PM (ScR16)
That story is bullshit. He didn't wear a uniform. He wore a PT zip up windbreaker that says ARMY on it. A crap ton of military veteran family members are engaging in stolen valor if wearing an Army windbreaker jacket is now verboten.
Here's a picture:
https://is.gd/qSkXN5
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 03:11 PM (Odg76)
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Two operational carriers. The third has been launched, but is still getting systems installed and tested. The two operational carriers are both the old Soviet design - one Soviet built, and the other a Chinese-built copy.
Posted by: junior at December 21, 2023 03:11 PM (opjBt)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:10 PM (9yWhg)
When it breaks, it will kill millions AND effect the rotation of Earth.
https://is.gd/Cs5iVk
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Weasel at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (JwHpX)
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I fully expected them to move in the 90s when they help get elected and owned Bill Clinton.
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 03:12 PM (plCv7)
Posted by: runner at December 21, 2023 03:12 PM (V13WU)
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I'm especially fascinated by the part where they're on video clearly committing crimes and The System makes it a point to laugh and grind the noses of the voters in it.
Posted by: Nikki Haley at December 21, 2023 03:12 PM (Svf47)
That story is bullshit. He didn't wear a uniform. He wore a PT zip up windbreaker that says ARMY on it. A crap ton of military veteran family members are engaging in stolen valor if wearing an Army windbreaker jacket is now verboten.
Here's a picture:
https://is.gd/qSkXN5
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 03:11 PM (Odg76)
I have a generic Marine Corps hat that I don't wear for this exact reason.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:13 PM (Zz0t1)
Here's a picture:
https://is.gd/qSkXN5
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 03:11 PM (Odg76)
He's a Demoncrat, so f*ck him.
Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 03:13 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: runner at December 21, 2023 03:13 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 03:13 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:10 PM (9yWhg)
When it breaks, it will kill millions AND effect the rotation of Earth.
https://is.gd/Cs5iVk
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)
When or if?
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:13 PM (x7m+Z)
Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 03:07 PM (geLO
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This was a year ago. But yes, it involved more homo sex in Democrat politics.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 03:14 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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And they're reportedly having problems getting it to work properly.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 03:15 PM (uJbvW)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:15 PM (9yWhg)
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Giuliani filed for bankruptcy in NY today.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 21, 2023 03:15 PM (woPEM)
https://is.gd/Cs5iVk
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)
When or if?
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:13 PM (x7m+Z)
Hopefully soon.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 21, 2023 03:16 PM (puDky)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 03:16 PM (R4t5M)
See you from that long road
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2023 03:04 PM (fwDg9)
Have a good one and stay safe Skip !
Posted by: JT at December 21, 2023 03:16 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: bearski
The news is that if your enemy says they are going to do something, if that thing they say they will do will start a war, you either accept that you have already lost, or you go into wartime production mode.
If we are serious about defending Taiwan, we will seriously address the problem. Cut off trade, secure borders, ramp up industrial sector, etc.
If we do not do that, then we are telling China that a "small incursion" is OK. Have at it.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 03:16 PM (GYfUx)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 03:16 PM (R4t5M)
I'm not taking a tour without a blacklight.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 03:16 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 03:16 PM (R4t5M)
It flushes them out.
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:17 PM (x7m+Z)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 03:17 PM (R4t5M)
Here's a picture:
https://is.gd/qSkXN5
Posted by: bonhomme
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Every kid in my neighborhood an army jacket from surplus in the 70s.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 03:17 PM (uJbvW)
It's perfectly understandable that you would want to be careful about not wanting to give people the wrong impression. I'm a former Air Force dependent and I don't wear Air Force gear for the same reason.
That said, if you're wearing a generic Marine Corps or Air Force hat with no ribbons or anything, and you don't say anything that implies you served, in my opinion you've done nothing wrong. Same with a non-uniform windbreaker.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 03:17 PM (Odg76)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 03:16 PM (R4t5M)
It flushes them out.
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:17 PM (x7m+Z)
Not if you chain the doors first.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 03:17 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 03:06 PM (iFTx/)
Its also pretty far inland. Cruise missiles don't have infinite range.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 03:09 PM (eoQWY)
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Chinese weather balloons FTW!
/
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 03:17 PM (plCv7)
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 03:17 PM (miT2W)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 21, 2023 03:16 PM (R4t5M)
We just wanted to get married and live quietly ever after.
Well, not really.
Posted by: Sodomites, Breech Loaders and Rump Rangers at December 21, 2023 03:18 PM (puDky)
Posted by: Don Black a
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Jill's peggy parties.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 03:18 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:18 PM (x7m+Z)
This was a year ago. But yes, it involved more homo sex in Democrat politics.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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I didn't look closely at the byline
We regret the error. - the editors
Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 03:18 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 03:19 PM (sm6Pk)
It's perfectly understandable that you would want to be careful about not wanting to give people the wrong impression. I'm a former Air Force dependent and I don't wear Air Force gear for the same reason.
That said, if you're wearing a generic Marine Corps or Air Force hat with no ribbons or anything, and you don't say anything that implies you served, in my opinion you've done nothing wrong. Same with a non-uniform windbreaker.
Posted by: bonhomme
My understanding is that non-military members can wear military items (e.g., a Navy peacoat) as long as any insignia (e.g., indicating rank) are removed.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:19 PM (9yWhg)
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Giuliani filed for bankruptcy in NY today.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 21, 2023 03:15 PM (woPEM)
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I'm still waiting to hear exactly what Rudy said about those pieces of shit that was untrue . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 03:19 PM (iFTx/)
Would you like to buy an "r"?
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:18 PM (x7m+Z)
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I guess I should. How much does that cost?
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (miT2W)
Posted by: free tibet at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (1wtUm)
Would you like to buy an "r"?
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:18 PM (x7m+Z)
(Jump to top of page)
I guess I should. How much does that cost?
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (miT2W)
Free today!
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (x7m+Z)
Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (geLO8)
RNC Research
@RNCResearch
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: "Over 14 million jobs have been created under President Biden. That's every job lost in the pandemic, plus almost 15 million more jobs!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (FVME7)
I rescinded the idea of donating any more.
Simple. Tit for tat.
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:18 PM (x7m+Z)
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I guess I should. How much does that cost?
Posted by: That Northernlurke
$20, same as in town.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 03:13 PM (yc+Nx)
About 0. They are made to ram things. You could probably jury rig something if you were serious in wartime. In peacetime, 6 months. I haven't heard of "drone carriers" yet but im not a war tech fanatic.
Small drones, at least so far seem vulnerable to being jammed or burned out by Anti Air units the Russians have. They have been getting increasingly effective during the progress of the war, films of drones falling out of the sky when hit by these are out there.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Eromero at December 21, 2023 03:21 PM (Ob7Rg)
How much do they weigh?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 03:21 PM (GYfUx)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (
Remarkably stupid she is.
Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (miT2W)
Posted by: Oddbob at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (sNc8Y)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (9yWhg)
Is Margaret Trudeau still alive?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (BdMk6)
Bought it in some shopping mall department store.
I've been "thanked for my service" maybe three times over the years, which is an awful feeling; I blush each time and have to explain that I never served.
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (bz1yv)
Here's a picture:
https://is.gd/qSkXN5
Posted by: bonhomme
Every kid in my neighborhood an army jacket from surplus in the 70s.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 03:17 PM (uJbvW)
Yeah, this Vet has no problem if someone wears a generic Navy hat or something... because real Sailors wear stuff from prior commands...
Like, my Destroyer ballcap... or COMSUBPAC... or USS Iwo Jima hat...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (xaFKb)
Posted by: Eromero at December 21, 2023 03:21 PM (Ob7Rg)
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DPRK hats are enormous.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (ScR16)
... must be democRATs
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:08 PM (9yWhg)
Is Margaret Trudeau still alive?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (BdMk6)
Like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.
Posted by: Zombie Fidel at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (aD39U)
U.S. military preparation for a Chinese invasion of Taiwan should be our first priority. Every time China accelerates its invasion prep, the U.S. should accelerate its own defensive preparations.
This is going to cost the U.S. money, and it likely won't be popular.
Posted by: mnw at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (NLIak)
Posted by: Victor von F. at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (cf/0E)
It's perfectly understandable that you would want to be careful about not wanting to give people the wrong impression. I'm a former Air Force dependent and I don't wear Air Force gear for the same reason.
That said, if you're wearing a generic Marine Corps or Air Force hat with no ribbons or anything, and you don't say anything that implies you served, in my opinion you've done nothing wrong. Same with a non-uniform windbreaker.
Posted by: bonhomme
My understanding is that non-military members can wear military items (e.g., a Navy peacoat) as long as any insignia (e.g., indicating rank) are removed.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:19 PM (9yWhg)
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I see military jackets and shirts and hats all the time with "Army," "Navy," etc. I always assumed it was off-the-rack stuff probably sold by the armed forced themselves.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (iFTx/)
... must be democRATs
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (RHGPo)
hahahaha!
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (x7m+Z)
Posted by: Braenyard at .December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (yc+Nx)
So no pink hair and nose rings? This is the modern military
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (
The bullshit is thick with this one.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (W/lyH)
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Giuliani filed for bankruptcy in NY today.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 21, 2023 03:15 PM (woPEM)
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I'm still waiting to hear exactly what Rudy said about those pieces of shit that was untrue . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Basically insinuated they were smuggling in fake ballots, then recanted.
Certainly not worth $150 million judgement, absolutely disgusting. You get drunk and kill someone in your car and not get a $150 million judgement against you.
My guess is will be appealed and the amount changed, but these judges deserve a reckoning that play their part in all of it.
Posted by: Blago at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (KjeR+)
Has he considered taxing the rats?
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (CwhoI)
Yet miraculously his average is still at 40 like it’s been for over a year. Every week a new low and yet the average doesn’t budge.
Oh and in the same Yahoo poll 44% would still vote for Biden, and 44% for Trump. Which means a significant number of people think he sucks but sucks less than the other guy.
Posted by: Montec at December 21, 2023 03:24 PM (BW97Y)
Not sure if they are prepared, or how difficult it would be to seal it up again.
Everyone talking about the dam busters operation, that was in the era before precision bombing. Today we shoot missiles one on top of the other. We can take out every gate in a series of locks.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 03:24 PM (GYfUx)
Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (geLO
You disrpesect all the sacrifices that Nathan MacKinnon has made so that you don't have to get hit by Nick Foligno.
Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 03:24 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (
Remarkably stupid she is.
Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (miT2W)
She has to live with herself. That's some punishment.
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:25 PM (x7m+Z)
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (eoQWY)
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Back in the day hunters used to take out flocks of ducks with a large shotgun cannon thingy.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 21, 2023 03:25 PM (++4z6)
I wonder if we have an extra carrier/battle group to defend Exxon as they continue to operate in waters Venezuela has claimed.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 03:25 PM (Cus5s)
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
........
Something tells me she may be one of the survivors.
Posted by: wth at December 21, 2023 03:26 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 03:20 PM (
Remarkably stupid she is.
Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 03:22 PM (miT2W)
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That's especially impressive since Cyclone Biden claimed that Trump's virus killed 100 million Americans!
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 03:26 PM (Wn1w4)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 21, 2023 03:25 PM (++4z6)
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Punt guns. However, they were firing at ducks that were sitting still.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2023 03:26 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Basically insinuated they were smuggling in fake ballots, then recanted.
Certainly not worth $150 million judgement, absolutely disgusting. You get drunk and kill someone in your car and not get a $150 million judgement against you.
My guess is will be appealed and the amount changed, but these judges deserve a reckoning that play their part in all of it.
Posted by: Blago at December 21, 2023 03:23 PM (KjeR+)
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But they were . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 03:26 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:26 PM (x7m+Z)
.. it's safe to say that Kamala Harris will never be accused of quoting Hitler
Kamala Harris serves up another word salad about the ‘most election of our lifetime’
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 03:27 PM (RHGPo)
Sigh. Those were the days...
Posted by: Elmer Fudd at December 21, 2023 03:27 PM (CwhoI)
I'm new to the game so I don't know if this is a dig or not, but thank you
Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 03:27 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 03:27 PM (yc+Nx)
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I would make her late for a prayer breakfast or three.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:27 PM (9yWhg)
It concerns the new growth market for Planned Parenthood.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 03:27 PM (tC98t)
Bad ju-ju.
It'd fuck us over every bit as bad as it would the Chinese.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 03:28 PM (Q4IgG)
Worse, this sets up that you can be charged with libel for being wrong. If he really believed what he said, then it falls under freedom of speech.
Under this standard, Trump can sue anyone who says he committed insurrection... even if they actually believe it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 21, 2023 03:28 PM (xaFKb)
I think that would be a pretty good rule. I would tweak it slightly to include the ribbon rack and specific operations names (eg Desert Storm). I've seen hats with one or both, and I feel they should only be worn by the people who earned the medals or served in those operations.
It also matters what you say or imply. I've told people I was an "Air Force brat." Some people don't know exactly what that means and have responded by thanking me for my service. At that point I tell them, no, sorry. I didn't serve. I was a child of someone who served at the time they served.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 03:28 PM (Odg76)
Posted by: m
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Isn't the idea to kill soldiers not civilians or is it simple blood lust?
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 03:29 PM (yc+Nx)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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The Yamato had some weird anti-aircraft rounds like that for it's 18 inch guns.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 03:29 PM (uJbvW)
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 03:29 PM (RHGPo)
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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"Blue Jean baby ...
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 03:29 PM (xKHsf)
It concerns the new growth market for Planned Parenthood.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 03:27 PM (tC98t)
Ok, I'll make myself clearer...
NOOD
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 21, 2023 03:30 PM (tC98t)
I think that would be a pretty good rule. I would tweak it slightly to include the ribbon rack and specific operations names (eg Desert Storm). I've seen hats with one or both, and I feel they should only be worn by the people who earned the medals or served in those operations.
Yes, that was included in my statement about "any insignia." Not just rank, but any medals, qualifications, etc., too.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 21, 2023 03:30 PM (9yWhg)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 03:29 PM (yc+Nx)
The idea is to destroy your enemies ability to make war.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 03:30 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Rudy said they weren't.
So who's lying?
I'm not on the side of these disgusting people, but Rudy Giuliani didn't try and prove otherwise, said he was wrong.
What I want to know, is where is billionaire Donald Trump? Rudy's life was ruined trying to help, and Trump seems to have hung him out to dry.
Honestly, the video "evidence" was nothing. Suitcases were moving ballots like they always have. In front of cameras and in front of election observers.
Posted by: Blago at December 21, 2023 03:30 PM (KjeR+)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 21, 2023 03:30 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 03:24 PM (GYfUx)
Ukraine failed to take out a single Dnepr bridge when Russia had men over the river in Kherson. They did some damage from HIMARS artillery.
They also failed to stop traffic on the Kerch bridge using cruise missiles, terrorist attacks, and sea drones. And most of these was before any significant hardening of the area with anti-air or other defenses.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 03:30 PM (eoQWY)
Cuz I would watch that.
Posted by: wth at December 21, 2023 03:30 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: SMOD at December 21, 2023 03:29 PM (RHGPo)
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Rear Admiral Rachel Levine FTW!
"Men make the best women ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 03:31 PM (xKHsf)
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Drones releasing drones... DARPA's on it and has fielded several prototypes.
USAF also has "Rapid Dragon." Basically a pallet full of cruise missiles that is literally dumped out the back of a C-17. I think there's like 9 missiles per pallet. C-17 can carry 10+ pallets?
That's a lot o' missiles.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 03:31 PM (Q4IgG)
I saw last night that the administration's plan is to have UKR hold out until 2025, and by then they will have enough of the right weapons to win.
The only trick is getting Russia to time out. I was thinking one of those Japanese time stopping watches they use in ... I think only porn. Not sure. Not sure where that meme came from but it stops time so main character can do what they please.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 03:31 PM (GYfUx)
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: "Over 14 million jobs have been created under President Biden. That's every job lost in the pandemic, plus almost 15 million more jobs!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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srsly? 14 million is more than 15 million?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 21, 2023 03:32 PM (n7rxJ)
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I've got it! Feed the rats to the illegals! You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, rat-kabobs, rat creole, rat gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple rat, lemon rat, coconut rat, pepper rat, rat soup, rat stew, rat salad, rat and potatoes, rat burger, rat sandwich.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 03:32 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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The Yamato had some weird anti-aircraft rounds like that for it's 18 inch guns.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 03:29 PM (uJbvW)
Sometimes ships fired main guns to create plumes that could take down a torpedo or dive bomber on the exit after an attack. I think it worked every so often.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 03:32 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 03:32 PM (Odg76)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 21, 2023 03:33 PM (FVME7)
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And from what I've heard, when they finally got used the only thing they did was damage Yamato.
Posted by: junior at December 21, 2023 03:33 PM (opjBt)
Posted by: m
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Isn't the idea to kill soldiers not civilians or is it simple blood lust?
Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 03:29 PM (yc+Nx)
Inside, done by the Chinese government, could be multi-purpose.
Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 03:33 PM (x7m+Z)
https://is.gd/6aUqqH
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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yikes! would bang.
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So abortion, again, on her mind.
Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear, they only need to outrun us - for now at December 21, 2023 03:35 PM (GshMh)
Posted by: wth at December 21, 2023 03:36 PM (v0R5T)
I saw last night that the administration's plan is to have UKR hold out until 2025, and by then they will have enough of the right weapons to win.
The only trick is getting Russia to time out. I was thinking one of those Japanese time stopping watches they use in ... I think only porn. Not sure. Not sure where that meme came from but it stops time so main character can do what they please.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 03:31 PM (GYfUx)
The "freeze" isn't going to happen as the EU has admitted that the previous treaty before the war was intentionally violated to build Ukraine's military back up after defeat by Donbas in 2014.
The only way imaginable way to get any sort of ceasefire would be to cede enough turf Russia wants but doesn't have to make it worth their while. That isn't likely to happen, and all the unilateral chatter in the US and EU is just more signs that the leadership of the war is detached from reality on the ground.
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I welcome the signing of the Defense Cooperation Agreement with Denmark today as the next step in our long-standing defense relationship with one of the founding members of NATO. The DCA will strengthen our bilateral mil-to-mil cooperation & strengthen the @NATO Alliance.
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