"The Elite Eight" Will Be Withheld From Disclosure In the Epstein Case

Eight high-profile predators, I mean persons of interest, have successfully petitioned to get their names withheld from the disclosures which are (supposedly) coming on January 2nd.

A mysterious group of eight high-profile Jeffrey Epstein associates are MISSING from the roster of 177 names expected to be released by a federal judge next year, a RadarOnline.com investigation has exclusively learned.
It is unknown why the eight vanished from the list, but court records examined by RadarOnline.com showed the missing eight -- known as Doe's # 12, 28, 97, 107, 144, 147, 171, and 183 -- filed court documents in a desperate attempt to remain anonymous in the scandalous case.
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The legal document implied the eight big shots were attempting to protect their stellar reputations.
"It is vitally important for the public to understand how the sex trafficking of young girls by the wealthy and powerful was able to persist for years with impunity," stated the legal brief filed by lawyers for the Miami Herald and its investigative reporter Julie Brown.
"And any adults who participated in these acts or can shed light on these facts cannot shield the public's eyes to this crucial information simply because they would prefer to sweep it under the rug and not be associated with the whole affair."

"Wanna bet?" -- The Regime

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:02 PM

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1 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (GBKbO)

2 I so hate these people.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (CsUN+)

3 Any name's rhyme with Phil Rinton?

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (kRLQK)

4 It's the strangest thing that the names will not be leaked, either, not that they would be published.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (KSNKu)

5 Big Guy, Clintons, Obama ... Schumer, Mitch, ummm. .. just guessing.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (Cus5s)

6 Good morning all

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (XMkZw)

7 Justice delayed, and now denied.

Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (7rzgu)

8 They should have a playoff.

Posted by: BignJames at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (AwYPR)

9 I assume that they are all elected officials and Tom Hanks.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (1Z8zZ)

10 "eight high-profile Jeffrey Epstein associates are MISSING from the roster"

What a surprise!

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 12:05 PM (MvF+J)

11 Scumbags need to have them leaked.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at December 21, 2023 12:05 PM (qZdIZ)

12 Jan. 2nd. This gives plenty of time for the others to get their checks in.

Posted by: Paladin at December 21, 2023 12:05 PM (+Ivv+)

13 Prince Andrew dodges another one.

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:05 PM (kRLQK)

14 For all those who wondered how a people so culturally rich as the Germans could do what they did in WWII, wonder no more. It's a very thin facade between us and dictatorship.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:05 PM (CsUN+)

15 Benedict Roberts, CJ of the SCOTUS?

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:05 PM (4B3rR)

16 And this surprises who?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (Q0kLU)

17 Back to our regularly scheduled programming!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (zxP/x)

18 8 have petitioned to have their names redacted. We have granted seven requests. Here is the list
1 John Doe
2 John Doe
3 John Doe
4 John Doe
5 John Doe
6 John Doe
7 John Doe
8 Donald Trump

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (NYzgN)

19 and back to two sets of rules

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (xcxpd)

20 Something like 100 of the 177 have already been identified through other means.

It would be amusing if these 8 were in those 100.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (GBKbO)

21 "It's a big club, and ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (TZd1U)

22 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)

23 It is unknown why the eight vanished from the list, but court records examined by RadarOnline.com showed the missing eight -- known as Doe's # 12, 28, 97, 107, 144, 147, 171, and 183 -- filed court documents in a desperate attempt to remain anonymous in the scandalous case.
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The vanished from the list because the check cleared.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (zxP/x)

24 Gang bang of 8.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (ReL47)

25 You don't have to release the names on the list, just release the names of those who asked for the few to remain sealed.

I promise not to make any snap judgments.

Posted by: red speck at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (0Id0S)

26 All donkeys I'll wager...

ah well if you are a republican what the fuck were you doing in that orbit AT ALL?

Posted by: sven at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (X0I7i)

27 If the elite 8 are Democrats the media would ignore the information anyway.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (miT2W)

28 "It is vitally important for the public to understand how the sex trafficking of young girls by the wealthy and powerful was able to persist for years with impunity," stated the legal brief filed by lawyers for the Miami Herald and its investigative reporter Julie Brown.
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No, it's vitally important that the public *never* understand just how common this is within the ruling class.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (zxP/x)

29 Joe and Hunter Biden are on that list, I'm betting.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)

30 2 Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (CsUN+)

Not 12/ as much as they hate you comrade.

They are bugchasing an ELE.

Posted by: sven at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (X0I7i)

31 Some of the names are common ones!!

https://shorturl.at/OTX26

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts, "Epstein Who?" at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (pjO2w)

32 I wonder if any of these 8 are victims rather than participants?

Serious question: what legal basis does anyone have to get their name removed from this list? I'm a lawyer myself. Clients are always asking how they can appear anonymously so as to avoid having their names revealed publicly. And this is not just for the parties participating in the case, but also for witnesses, potential additional parties, and basically anyone having any interest in the case or dispute.

My answer: You can't. There are very narrow exceptions for minors, victims of sex crimes, and other highly confidential matters, but that's about it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (iFTx/)

33 1/2 as much....

Posted by: sven at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (X0I7i)

34 Joe and Hunter Biden are on that list, I'm betting.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)
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I kinda doubt it. Guys like Biden have different networks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (zxP/x)

35 'If the elite 8 are Democrats the media would ignore the information anyway.'

And if they were Republicans the information would promptly be leaked to the media

Posted by: norrin radd at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (dN+2t)

36 Eight for now, how many more will come up with the required payment?

Tickets, tickets, get your "Get Off Scott Free" tickets now, get 'em while they're hot".

DeepState still holds the videos though, so kompromat still in effect?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (Cus5s)

37 32 Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (iFTx/)

"What legal basis?"

"It would harm the party comrade."

We are in the United Soviet States of America.

Posted by: sven at December 21, 2023 12:09 PM (X0I7i)

38 One requestor, who shall remain anonymous, asked that his name stay unconnected from Epstein because, and I quote, "He's dead, so..."

Posted by: red speck at December 21, 2023 12:09 PM (0Id0S)

39 Prince Andrew dodges another one.
Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:05 PM (kRLQK)

1. Why would he bother? There are photos of him with Epstein and he's already settled a legal case associated with Epstein.
2. While what Andrew is accused of doing is creepy and gross... it is not, and never was, illegal. The age of consent in Europe is 16. The girl at the time was 16. She claims that he knew she was being trafficked because #metoo.
3. Andrew is not in a position of authority anywhere. Yes, he's still relatively rich. That's not gonna change.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:09 PM (1Z8zZ)

40 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 21, 2023 12:10 PM (T4tVD)

41 Every Democrat is going to be granted the right to remain secret, and every Republican will be denied.

Pathetic and predictable.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at December 21, 2023 12:10 PM (setIA)

42 DeepState still holds the videos though, so kompromat still in effect?
Posted by: illiniwek at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (Cus5s)
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Almost certainly. American power is a triangle of hate, fear and blackmail - and blackmail likely pulls more than its own weight.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:10 PM (zxP/x)

43 "I flew out to Epstein's Island to snorkel on the beautiful reefs. And you can snorkel on the same reefs if you book a Disney Cruise now!"

Yes, Disney offers snorkeling excursions to the reefs around Epstein's Island.

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:10 PM (kRLQK)

44 "There are very narrow exceptions"

Hundred dollar bills are pretty narrow.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at December 21, 2023 12:10 PM (XMkZw)

45 They should have a playoff.

Posted by: BignJames at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (AwYPR)

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Heh.

Out: Bowl Championship Series.
In: Prole Championship Series.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:10 PM (TZd1U)

46 11 Scumbags need to have them leaked.
Posted by: Gmac

No shit. Hackers can leak and dox millions of Comcast customers, or grab two terabytes of work from Insomniac Games or Rockstar or Sony...

But not these eight VIPs?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 21, 2023 12:10 PM (/QIWP)

47 Every Democrat is going to be granted the right to remain secret, and every Republican will be denied.

Pathetic and predictable.

I don't care if the Republicans are denied. Those on the list need to be revealed.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:10 PM (CsUN+)

48 This calls for 177 nooses. Or one sturdy piece of hemp used 177 times.

Posted by: Cosda at December 21, 2023 12:10 PM (iunJx)

49 ... 2. While what Andrew is accused of doing is creepy and gross... it is not, and never was, illegal. The age of consent in Europe is 16. The girl at the time was 16. She claims that he knew she was being trafficked because #metoo. ...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:09 PM (1Z8zZ)
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Age of consent is 16, but not for prostitution, IIRC.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (zxP/x)

50 The Hateful Eight

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (63Dwl)

51 Are there 8 elites who are not perverts?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (miT2W)

52 Where's a whistleblower when you need him?

Posted by: leber at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (rovGg)

53 I bet Ghislaine could fill in the blanks.

Actually, I wonder if keeping her alive is the only reason not to divulge the whole list. Once the biggest fish are exposed, she'll no doubt meet with a terrible accident when the guards' backs are turned.

Posted by: red speck at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (0Id0S)

54 Ah the old tried and true “ At this point, what does it matter” gambit???

Posted by: tubal at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (PCK5/)

55 Bribe a clerk in the judge's office. Release the names of the petitioners.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)

56 Chief Justice John Roberts is one of the Does?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (EcuyG)

57 8 have petitioned to have their names redacted. We have granted seven requests. Here is the list
1 John Doe
2 John Doe
3 John Doe
4 John Doe
5 John Doe
6 John Doe
7 John Doe
8 Donald Trump
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (NYzgN)
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The first seven names on the list are also deceased, so there's no point in asking further about their activities...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (7fElN)

58 Check the lawyers who filed the request and backtrack to who they’re usually filing for in other matters.

Posted by: Don Draper at December 21, 2023 12:12 PM (SpDH3)

59 This "elite eight" are now beholden to yet another person or organization.
First Epstein and CIA or Mossad, and now who ever is hiding their names.

Probably would have been better for them to keep their dicks in their pants in the first place...

Nah.
Creeps gotta creep

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 21, 2023 12:12 PM (FCbAQ)

60 I just hate Does guys!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2023 12:12 PM (63Dwl)

61 >>> "The Elite Eight" Will Be Withheld From Disclosure In the Epstein Case

Our Democracy (tm) will collapse if those names were to be revealed.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 21, 2023 12:12 PM (cOq4q)

62 A post on redactions and I have been forever banned

Posted by: REDACTED at December 21, 2023 12:12 PM (yxEX9)

63 Check the lawyers who filed the request and backtrack to who they’re usually filing for in other matters.

No, don't do that. It's an invasion of privacy.

Posted by: John Atsedop at December 21, 2023 12:13 PM (CsUN+)

64 35 'If the elite 8 are Democrats the media would ignore the information anyway.'

And if they were Republicans the information would promptly be leaked to the media
Posted by: norrin radd at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (dN+2t)

Come, now, useful and easily blackmailed Republicans might get a pass. Why on earth would someone burn a useful asset like Mitch McConnell or John Roberts?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2023 12:13 PM (KSNKu)

65
>>> "The Elite Eight" Will Be Withheld From Disclosure In the Epstein Case

Our Democracy (tm) will collapse if those names were to be revealed.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Our PRECIOUS democracy!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 21, 2023 12:13 PM (63Dwl)

66 Age of consent is 16, but not for prostitution, IIRC.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (zxP/x)

Assuming that is correct, is it a violation by the John, the girl, or both?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:13 PM (1Z8zZ)

67 Chief Justice John Roberts is one of the Does?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (EcuyG)
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"John Roberts" is. Not clear who that refers to.

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts, at December 21, 2023 12:13 PM (pjO2w)

68 While we are legally not permitted to release the names, we can say that one is filed under D. Trump. However, our lawyers have informed that this is too identifiable, so we are amending it to Donald T.

(Stolen and paraphrased from The Simpsons' "Lisa S., L. Simpson joke)

Posted by: MSM at December 21, 2023 12:14 PM (KbCG3)

69 Gates ?

Posted by: ET at December 21, 2023 12:14 PM (AMzZ8)

70 64 Come, now, useful and easily blackmailed Republicans might get a pass. Why on earth would someone burn a useful asset like Mitch McConnell or John Roberts?
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2023 12:13 PM (KSNKu)

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Because the lowest levels of the left are now ideologues blinded by constant rage at the literal genocides happening all around them and can't think strategically.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

71 Chief Justice John Roberts is one of the Does?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (EcuyG)

Depends on the outcome of the Colorado appeal, IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:14 PM (1Z8zZ)

72 No way John Roberts isn't one of them.

John Podesta is obviously another.

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 12:14 PM (sm6Pk)

73 The Criminal Christopher Wray is likely one of the 8.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:14 PM (miT2W)

74 >>> Something like 100 of the 177 have already been identified through other means.

It would be amusing if these 8 were in those 100.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton

If by "identified" you totally baseless speculation, why, yes, they have been revealed.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 21, 2023 12:14 PM (cOq4q)

75 What's their definition of elite and why should that matter?

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at December 21, 2023 12:15 PM (XMkZw)

76 It's going to get out. In a world filled with subscriptions, likes and "ring that effing bell...it helps me out"....no secrets exist forever.

Accusations will be made. They won't be answered in civil court for obvious reasons, and we'll eventually have the names of those eight (

Posted by: Orson at December 21, 2023 12:15 PM (dIske)

77 No way John Roberts isn't one of them.

John Podesta is obviously another.

*cough*#63*cough*

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:15 PM (CsUN+)

78 Someone just got hit up for a large "charitable" donation to keep their name private.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 21, 2023 12:15 PM (tT6L1)

79 Joe and Hunter Biden are on that list, I'm betting.
Posted by: Sponge
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Not Joe. The girls were too old.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 12:16 PM (uJbvW)

80 Assuming that is correct, is it a violation by the John, the girl, or both?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:13 PM (1Z8zZ)
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Not sure. Prostitution law and expectations being what they are, though, in practical terms it's sure to be the john's fault.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:16 PM (zxP/x)

81 Hunter and Joe may very well be on the list.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 21, 2023 12:16 PM (tT6L1)

82 Joe and Hunter Biden are on that list, I'm betting.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)
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I kinda doubt it. Guys like Biden have different networks.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (zxP/x)

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Hunter has no problem finding underaged sex trafficked foreign national prostitutes all by himself. Just look at the photos on his laptop. Epstein and Maxwell specialized in finding and corrupting American teenagers. They catered to a more sophisticated audience.

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:16 PM (kRLQK)

83 Not Joe. The girls were too old.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 21, 2023 12:16 PM (uJbvW)
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It would not surprise me if you had to go to the island to get the more ... exotic merchandise.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:16 PM (zxP/x)

84 83 It would not surprise me if you had to go to the island to get the more ... exotic merchandise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:16 PM (zxP/x)

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Kiwi?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 12:17 PM (GBKbO)

85 Just because somebody wants a ride on a G5 and diddle a few little girls, or boys, or goats doesn't make him or her a bad person. Why, hell they could be members, immediate and otherwise, of the first family.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 21, 2023 12:17 PM (0EOe9)

86 Adam Schiff applied, but was rejected.

Posted by: BignJames at December 21, 2023 12:17 PM (AwYPR)

87 I'd claim horde mind but not really much of a stretch.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 21, 2023 12:17 PM (tT6L1)

88 Afternoon Ace. Eight Men Out was a great book and movie about the Black Sox scandal. Now it's a bunch of elite pervs. Say it ain't so

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 21, 2023 12:17 PM (NcL9g)

89 I thought the eight people left out of the court order were on the receiving end of Epstein's clientele. Am I wrong about that?

Posted by: Ralph at December 21, 2023 12:17 PM (wnTj5)

90 as fully expected

Posted by: SamIam at December 21, 2023 12:17 PM (oasF3)

91 49 ... 2. While what Andrew is accused of doing is creepy and gross... it is not, and never was, illegal. The age of consent in Europe is 16. The girl at the time was 16. She claims that he knew she was being trafficked because #metoo. ...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:09 PM (1Z8zZ)
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Age of consent is 16, but not for prostitution, IIRC.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:11 PM (zxP/x)
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This was all a "yacht girls" thing. Not really prostitutes, but definitely willing to have sex with rich and powerful guys in exchange for exposure to luxury and the high life.

Some people profess to be shocked by this, but it happens every day and night in every city and every high end restaurant, hotel, and club in the world. There is no shortage of girls ready, willing, and eager to participate in this.

In fact, there is more supply than demand. Any high-end Hamptons or Manhattan party will have more girls jockeying for invites than there are invites available.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

92 John Roberts comes out on the list

John Roberts resigns

Jack Smith nominated to be new chief justice.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (NYzgN)

93 Al Sharpton on the list? He did lose a lot of weight.....

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (rloMK)

94 John McAfee still alive? Out of jail?

Posted by: BignJames at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (AwYPR)

95 Keep in mind:

Epstein Island is not the only one our elites visit.

And, there is a mini Epstein Island in every major city.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (TzW+Y)

96 It would not surprise me if you had to go to the island to get the more ... exotic merchandise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:16 PM (zxP/x)

It would not surprise me if you had to go to the island if your desire were to conduct a VERY late term abortion.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (1Z8zZ)

97 Silver lining: This is just another reminder to average people that the "elites" think (correctly) that the rules don't apply to them. That will not sit well. It's another chink in the Dem armor and will help in the next election.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (CsUN+)

98 91 In fact, there is more supply than demand. Any high-end Hamptons or Manhattan party will have more girls jockeying for invites than there are invites available.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

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Frank Capra made a movie about this.

It's called Ladies of Leisure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (GBKbO)

99 Because the lowest levels of the left are now ideologues blinded by constant rage at the literal genocides happening all around them and can't think strategically.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

I was thinking about their Regime handlers, but, yeah, they are too batshit crazy now to be rational, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (KSNKu)

100 There is probably much worse going on now with all of the trafficking from the border

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (NYzgN)

101 Compare the list to the known flight logs and I bet you can get pretty close...

Posted by: bjjfiter at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (HKH3s)

102 known as Doe's # 12, 28, 97, 107, 144, 147, 171, and 183 -- filed court documents

Anyone note that the last number is higher than the list reportedly only being of 177 pedos?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 21, 2023 12:20 PM (+gS8D)

103 This was all a "yacht girls" thing. Not really prostitutes, but definitely willing to have sex with rich and powerful guys in exchange for exposure to luxury and the high life.

Some people profess to be shocked by this, but it happens every day and night in every city and every high end restaurant, hotel, and club in the world. There is no shortage of girls ready, willing, and eager to participate in this.

In fact, there is more supply than demand. Any high-end Hamptons or Manhattan party will have more girls jockeying for invites than there are invites available.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
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But it isn't prostitution - it's just a high-end environment where one thing leads to another...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:20 PM (zxP/x)

104 Adam Schiff applied, but was rejected.
Posted by: BignJames at December 21, 2023 12:17 PM (AwYPR)
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We tried! "Not enough money in the world" we kept hearing from the girls.

Posted by: Ghislaine Maxwell at December 21, 2023 12:20 PM (pjO2w)

105
Adam Schiff provides list:

Brett Kavanaugh
John Roberts
Clarence Thomas
Samuel Alito
Donald Trump
Donald Trump Jr
Jared Kushner
Fiorello La Guardia
Rudy Guiliani

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 21, 2023 12:20 PM (+oR7L)

106 Years ago I worked for a large company; the CEO (who was an old grey-haired white guy) was caught fooling around with a young female executive. He was terminated but then all us low-ranking proles in the company had to take ethics training…. Because the CEO was fooling around…. To teach us not to fool around.

It actually was kinda interesting. They brought this outside trainer lady in who specialized in ethics…. The one thing I remember her saying; The truth ALWAYS comes out eventually. It’s an iron rule of nature. So do the right thing. It stuck with me…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 21, 2023 12:20 PM (EcuyG)

107 Where's a whistleblower when you need him?

Down in the beautiful reefs around Epstein's island ... silly question.

Posted by: Paladin at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (+Ivv+)

108 The yacht girls of today are the courtesans of yesteryear.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (tT6L1)

109 Techno Fog @Techno_Fog Dec 19
A federal judge has ordered the unsealing of 167 Jeffrey Epstein “John Does” (from Ghislaine Maxwell’s civil case).

There’s a lot of confusion (and bad info from the media) surrounding this issue – here is some necessary context on the John Does.

Thread.

We previously charted and categorized each John Doe, and previously summarized this material back in Feb. 2023.

The majority (around 100 of 167) have been identified.

Approximately 11 of the unidentified John Does are victims.

Here are examples:

http://tinyurl.com/2r99pb5c
Nitter thread to read them all with screencaps of the documents.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (2yu8s)

110 95 "Eyes Wide Shut" was a documentary.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (MvF+J)

111 This was all a "yacht girls" thing. Not really prostitutes, but definitely willing to have sex with rich and powerful guys in exchange for exposure to luxury and the high life.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

If they're very good at it then they can end up a Duchess. Sure, they have to marry an imbecile but but that time they're already taken a few hundred for the team.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (1Z8zZ)

112 If I’m reading him right, Techno Fog writes that this is much ado about nothing. I have no idea, myself.

"As we clarified last February, the John Does who will be unsealed aren’t “Epstein’s List.” Their names were referenced in any number of ways during the civil case, whether through depositions, medical records (the names of doctors), or in witness lists exchanged between the parties. (To that we add a note of caution: witness lists can be very broad and not all witnesses are material or have even basic information.)"

http://tinyurl.com/yjf3yh4a

Posted by: Turn 2 at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (/xziw)

113 >>> "The Elite Eight" Will Be Withheld From Disclosure In the Epstein Case

Our Democracy (tm) will collapse if those names were to be revealed.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 21, 2023 12:12 PM (cOq4q)

------------

"Doing so would also be a breach of National Security!"

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (TZd1U)

114 Ladies and Gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether or not we broke a few rules, or took liberties with our female party guests - we did!

And there not a damn thing you can do about it.

-- The Elite Eight

Posted by: Tonypete at December 21, 2023 12:22 PM (IaTa3)

115 "Of the 177 Republicans we planned to put, it seems that seven are still useful to the Party, as the FBI explained to me when they called to ask about possible objections to publishing my own name. Did I say my own name? I meant to say Elon Musk's name. Just a little speako, sorry about that."

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at December 21, 2023 12:22 PM (0FoWg)

116 The one thing I remember her saying; The truth ALWAYS comes out eventually. It’s an iron rule of nature. So do the right thing. It stuck with me…

Maybe, but all too often, the truth comes out after the malefactor is dead. Now I'm concerned about what my descendants think of me, but there are many people who aren't. In effect, they got away with it.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:22 PM (CsUN+)

117 >>> The Criminal Christopher Wray is likely one of the 8.
Posted by: That Northernlurke

Just look at him. You tell just at one look that not only is he a racist but also a pedo.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 21, 2023 12:22 PM (cOq4q)

118 97 Silver lining: This is just another reminder to average people that the "elites" think (correctly) that the rules don't apply to them. That will not sit well. It's another chink in the Dem armor and will help in the next election.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (CsUN+)

Counterpoint: Everyone knew they'd off Epstein the second he was arrested.

And they did. In the most ham-fisted way possible. They didn't even try to hide it.

And there wasn't even a show investigation into any of it.

The elites know that we're ultimately powerless to combat this stuff.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 21, 2023 12:23 PM (KbCG3)

119 The Big Guy is #1

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2023 12:24 PM (2zKgn)

120 91 In fact, there is more supply than demand. Any high-end Hamptons or Manhattan party will have more girls jockeying for invites than there are invites available.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

And of course, South Beach, where you can't get a meal for under 4 figures.

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 12:24 PM (sm6Pk)

121 Who is surprised with our two tier justice system?

Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2023 12:24 PM (fwDg9)

122 http://tinyurl.com/2r99pb5c
Nitter thread to read them all with screencaps of the documents.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (2yu8s)
===============
thank you for the link

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 21, 2023 12:24 PM (pjO2w)

123 After reviewing the list of names that are published and seeing who's NOT on it, but presumable SHOULD be, it might not be hard to determine who the 8 are.

Publish their names on X and challenge them to provide evidence they're NOT part of the 8.

That's how the left plays. I'd do it too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 21, 2023 12:24 PM (Q4IgG)

124 Isn't it amazing the government arrested Epstein and Ghislane for trafficking to apparently...no one?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 21, 2023 12:25 PM (XqcwY)

125 Maybe, but all too often, the truth comes out after the malefactor is dead. Now I'm concerned about what my descendants think of me, but there are many people who aren't. In effect, they got away with it.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:22 PM (CsUN+)

True. Mark Felt comes to mind…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 21, 2023 12:25 PM (EcuyG)

126 Maybe, but all too often, the truth comes out after the malefactor is dead. Now I'm concerned about what my descendants think of me, but there are many people who aren't.

In effect, they got away with it.
Posted by: Archimedes

Hold on there a minute. I have a long memory. Infinite one might say.

Posted by: A very pissed off God at December 21, 2023 12:25 PM (IaTa3)

127 For the time being “ we” are allowed to talk about all of this in an open venue… this will be referred to as “ The Good Old Days” in the future…

Posted by: tubal at December 21, 2023 12:25 PM (PCK5/)

128 103 This was all a "yacht girls" thing. Not really prostitutes, but definitely willing to have sex with rich and powerful guys in exchange for exposure to luxury and the high life.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
++++
But it isn't prostitution - it's just a high-end environment where one thing leads to another...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:20 PM (zxP/x)
__________

The line is thin and arbitrary, but it is there. These girls are what I call "half-a-whores": not really true prostitutes in the classic sense of specific sex-for-money transactions like "here's $20 for a blowjob." These girls are more like groupies and hangers-on. They accompany guys on trips, on yachts, to parties, and get exposure to luxury and expensive foods, booze, drugs (always drugs), and other accoutrements. In exchange, they are expected to -- and do -- have sex with the hosts.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:25 PM (iFTx/)

129 You guys know they had young boys on the Island.
Just sayin.

Posted by: GEORGE OBAMA at December 21, 2023 12:26 PM (0JbO3)

130 If I’m reading him right, Techno Fog writes that this is much ado about nothing. I have no idea, myself.

"As we clarified last February, the John Does who will be unsealed aren’t “Epstein’s List.” Their names were referenced in any number of ways during the civil case, whether through depositions, medical records (the names of doctors), or in witness lists exchanged between the parties. (To that we add a note of caution: witness lists can be very broad and not all witnesses are material or have even basic information.)"

http://tinyurl.com/yjf3yh4a
Posted by: Turn 2 at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (/xziw)

He thinks a few could be interesting but it's not the bombshell the breathless press is spinning.

Does anyone know of a link to the filings? It might be interesting to see who is representing the Elite 8 Does.

Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2023 12:26 PM (bLe0J)

131 Let's face it, if any if them were Trump or any high profile Republicans they'd be leaked by now.

Liberals keep trying to connect Trump to Epstein because of 1 picture from the early 90s, before his conviction, yet ignore how most other politicans and celebrities started hanging around him AFTER his conviction.

Im guessing it'll be a few politicans including Clinton, as well as someone like Bob Iger (which in any case using a CEO the rights of the shareholder should trump the rights of the pedophile CEO's anonymity)

Hopefully a true hero congres through and leaks everything.

Posted by: Rbastid at December 21, 2023 12:26 PM (9orLN)

132 Counterpoint: Everyone knew they'd off Epstein the second he was arrested.

And they did. In the most ham-fisted way possible. They didn't even try to hide it.

And there wasn't even a show investigation into any of it.

The elites know that we're ultimately powerless to combat this stuff.

Counter-counter point:
I don't want to get into yet another exchange of "voting is pointless", but assuming you think voting matters, this can't help but turn people off of the "elites", aka the left. The fact that they did something stupid in offing Epstein isn't proof that we're powerless, it just means they're really, really arrogant (and stupid). That's a bad combination.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:26 PM (CsUN+)

133 What's awesome about this thread is what happens in a zero trust government secrecy society: when people aren't told the truth, you leave them no other choice to explain events then to speculate with conspiracy theories.

Many of which you find out later, turn out to be true ...

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:27 PM (TZd1U)

134 Some people profess to be shocked by this, but it happens every day and night in every city and every high end restaurant, hotel, and club in the world. There is no shortage of girls ready, willing, and eager to participate in this.
---
#MeToo was never against rape or sexual coercion.

They were only against sex that didn't advance their careers.

See also:
Instagram is a prostitution recruitment and advertising app; think "escort" ads in the alt-weekly newspaper
Snapchat is worse; think Backpage and Craigslist
Tictok is even worse than Snapchat; that's flat-out street-walkers.

Only Fans is at least honest it's for sex workers.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 21, 2023 12:27 PM (TzW+Y)

135 Techno Fog has been covering the Epstein story for years.

I would trust his information.

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:27 PM (lm5rE)

136 The line is thin and arbitrary, but it is there. These girls are what I call "half-a-whores": not really true prostitutes in the classic sense of specific sex-for-money transactions like "here's $20 for a blowjob." These girls are more like groupies and hangers-on. They accompany guys on trips, on yachts, to parties, and get exposure to luxury and expensive foods, booze, drugs (always drugs), and other accoutrements. In exchange, they are expected to -- and do -- have sex with the hosts.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Yes, because they're whores. The payment terms are different, but the business isn't.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:27 PM (zxP/x)

137 Why does anyone get to remain hidden? And who wouldn't petition to remain anonymous if given a choice? Were some people not elite enough to be given the option?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 21, 2023 12:27 PM (OX9vb)

138 Much ado is being made about this list. It's starting to smell an awful lot like misdirection.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 21, 2023 12:27 PM (tT6L1)

139 It actually was kinda interesting. They brought this outside trainer lady in who specialized in ethics…. The one thing I remember her saying; The truth ALWAYS comes out eventually. It’s an iron rule of nature. So do the right thing. It stuck with me…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 21, 2023 12:20 PM (EcuyG)

The truth does always come out but very often we don't recognise it. Those that know how bury the truth in an avalanche of bullshit until most folks can't tell the truth from the many lies that grow up around the same incidents.
JFK or any number of other conspiracies? The truth has come out but not many can discern what it is.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (FCbAQ)

140 The elites know that we're ultimately powerless to combat this stuff.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 21, 2023 12:23 PM (KbCG3)

Spot on. This has been the lesson of the last eight years.

There always is a possibility of internecine elite fighting, and maybe someone who gets exposed will be pissed off enough to name the hidden names. Some elites also are more elite than others. I cannot be the only one who notices that from time to time Bill Gates gets mildly kicked to the curb. He may be elite, "but he's not our people, darling" at the end of the day. One of these will eventually whack another one and it will be fun to watch play out.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (KSNKu)

141 The 169 they're going to destroy must be soooo pissed they've been selected. Those GOPers must be going crazy trying to figure out which Democrats they pissed off and how.

If the Party didn't have some angle they're working they'd just refuse to release anything with a curt FYNQ, like they do every time, with everything.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (0FoWg)

142 Brian Atlas had some yacht girls on his show.

They complained it wasn't fair the rich guy who owned the yacht "pressured" them for sex.

He asked the girls if the yacht owners let other people on the boat that they didn't want to have sex with and the answer was...no.

So he then asked them "Aren't you paying for your yacht experience with sex?" And...they all agreed but seemed very unhappy with it broken down like that

Posted by: 18-1 at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (XqcwY)

143

Public mastication is love, h8ers!

Posted by: Chewy at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (Jo6t3)

144 Gentlemen, this is the Senate. We can't have sexual abuses in here.

Posted by: PG at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (gQbO4)

145 how many names total ??

Posted by: runner at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (V13WU)

146 Somebody knows who they are.

Posted by: fd at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (vFG9F)

147 I'm 99.9999% sure Bill Gates is one of the eight.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (R38qh)

148 130 Does anyone know of a link to the filings? It might be interesting to see who is representing the Elite 8 Does.
Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2023 12:26 PM (bLe0J)

Pretty safe bet that Perkins-Coie is involved.

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 12:29 PM (sm6Pk)

149 What's their definition of elite and why should that matter?
Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar

I'll bet it's the 8 in line for the presidency.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2023 12:29 PM (lXVjD)

150 See also:
Instagram is a prostitution recruitment and advertising app; think "escort" ads in the alt-weekly newspaper
Snapchat is worse; think Backpage and Craigslist
Tictok is even worse than Snapchat; that's flat-out street-walkers.

Only Fans is at least honest it's for sex workers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 21, 2023 12:27 PM (TzW+Y)
++++
It's all a pipeline, and TikTok and Instagram are the junior level. That's where the young girls go to enter a reinforcement pattern that leads them to OnlyFans when they become legal.

It's not all those platforms are for, of course, but it is a part of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:29 PM (zxP/x)

151 thank you for the link
------
"Sausage" is my middle name!

Or was it "Danger"??

Oh, well. Never mind.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:29 PM (2yu8s)

152 Well, one thing we now know for certain from this development is that Trump isn't on the list.

Posted by: Giacomo at December 21, 2023 12:29 PM (yPNd2)

153 So he then asked them "Aren't you paying for your yacht experience with sex?" And...they all agreed but seemed very unhappy with it broken down like that
Posted by: 18-1 at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (XqcwY)
++++
There ain't no delusion like self-delusion.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:29 PM (zxP/x)

154 The truth does always come out but very often we don't recognise it. Those that know how bury the truth in an avalanche of bullshit until most folks can't tell the truth from the many lies that grow up around the same incidents.
JFK or any number of other conspiracies? The truth has come out but not many can discern what it is.

But enough about the Clintons...

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (CsUN+)

155 Counter-counter point:
I don't want to get into yet another exchange of "voting is pointless", but assuming you think voting matters, this can't help but turn people off of the "elites", aka the left. The fact that they did something stupid in offing Epstein isn't proof that we're powerless, it just means they're really, really arrogant (and stupid). That's a bad combination.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:26 PM (CsUN+)

Here's the problem: in this instance, the elites aren't viewed solely as democrats. This isn't the same as Hunter getting away with everything.

I will say that it could help Trump, however, Epstein's death happened under his admin with that fat oaf Barr at the helm.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (KbCG3)

156 > Somebody knows who they are.

The intelligence agencies who set up or coopted the Epstein honeypot and are currently blackmailing the people on that list know who they are.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (R38qh)

157 19 and back to two sets of rules
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at December 21, 2023 12:06 PM (xcxpd)

"Back?" They never left.

Posted by: Two Americas, baby at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (wtpA4)

158 Brian Atlas had some yacht girls on his show.

They complained it wasn't fair the rich guy who owned the yacht "pressured" them for sex.

He asked the girls if the yacht owners let other people on the boat that they didn't want to have sex with and the answer was...no.

So he then asked them "Aren't you paying for your yacht experience with sex?" And...they all agreed but seemed very unhappy with it broken down like that
Posted by: 18-1

Ladies, we know what you are. We're just haggling over the price.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (lXVjD)

159 "I flew out to Epstein's Island to snorkel on the beautiful reefs. And you can snorkel on the same reefs if you book a Disney Cruise now!"

Clinton Foundation had famine relief mission which was working out of Epstein Island. Visits there were to save the children.

Posted by: Ripley at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (JojsZ)

160 147 I'm 99.9999% sure Bill Gates is one of the eight.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:28 PM (R38qh)

We do know that Gates consorted with Epstein. Was a contributing factor in his divorce, aside from his side piece.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (N39Ws)

161 *pauses*

Of course the Left will claim one of the eight is Donald J. Trump,

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (2zKgn)

162 How about release the details of the super secret congressional sex harassment slush fund .... I know I know

Posted by: ET at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (AMzZ8)

163 Serious question: what legal basis does anyone have to get their name removed from this list?

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:08 PM (iFTx/)

CIA assets who are still running their own pedophile rings, politicians frim ther right party, or large political donars to said party.

They don't need a good legal reason to get anonymity, they just need friends.

Posted by: Rbastid at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (9orLN)

164 I expect the Daily Mail is on this, not for the political aspect but for the sensational scoop .

Posted by: fd at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (vFG9F)

165 If the 8 anonymous are not revealed, then you'll see just one more example of a two-tiered justice system.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 21, 2023 12:30 PM (N39Ws)

166 130 Does anyone know of a link to the filings? It might be interesting to see who is representing the Elite 8 Does.
Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2023 12:26 PM (bLe0J)

Pretty safe bet that Perkins-Coie is involved.
Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 12:29 PM (sm6Pk)

Yep. Maybe Abbe Lowell too.

Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2023 12:31 PM (bLe0J)

167 This was all a "yacht girls" thing. Not really prostitutes, but definitely willing to have sex with rich and powerful guys in exchange for exposure to luxury and the high life.

Reminds me of that old Natasha Leggiero joke, "How do they make diamonds? I don't know. The only way I know how to make diamonds is by jerking off an old man."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 21, 2023 12:31 PM (Q0kLU)

168 I'm 99.9999% sure Bill Gates is one of the eight.

His wife said he was and that she was divorcing him because of it. And...as soon as she publicly said so Gates agreed to her terms and...she stopped talking.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 21, 2023 12:31 PM (XqcwY)

169 I'm sure there's at least one media heavyweight on the list. Mind you he would be a sodomite.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:31 PM (miT2W)

170 because the doj is implicit in hiding crimes against women and children

Posted by: O'Brien at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (D7oie)

171 Perky-Coital definitely

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (2zKgn)

172 136 The line is thin and arbitrary, but it is there. These girls are what I call "half-a-whores": not really true prostitutes in the classic sense of specific sex-for-money transactions like "here's $20 for a blowjob." These girls are more like groupies and hangers-on. They accompany guys on trips, on yachts, to parties, and get exposure to luxury and expensive foods, booze, drugs (always drugs), and other accoutrements. In exchange, they are expected to -- and do -- have sex with the hosts.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
++++
Yes, because they're whores. The payment terms are different, but the business isn't.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:27 PM (zxP/x)
_________

Life is about drawing lines. If you take the concept to extremes, then any attempt by any guy to wine-and-dine a girl, buy her Valentine's Day gifts, take her on vacation, mow the lawn, fix the leaking pipe, or do anything that might influence the girl into having sex is basically also prostitution. Every guy in the country would be in jail.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (iFTx/)

173 Mind you he would be a sodomite.
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:31 PM

Not Don Lemon. Nobody would think he's important enough to invite.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (0FoWg)

174 > It's all a pipeline, and TikTok and Instagram are the junior level. That's where the young girls go to enter a reinforcement pattern that leads them to OnlyFans when they become legal.

What's funny, in a very dark sort of way, is only a very small percent of OnlyFans accounts make much money. When every girl is doing it, nobody's all that interested in most girls.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (R38qh)

175 off topic, seen at yahoo:

The first trailer for 'Love Lies Bleeding', the forthcoming lesbian bodybuilding thriller starring Kristen Stewart, just dropped, and it truly has everything a queer moviegoer could ask for.

(and i bet all those guys in drag who insist they are really women and are also really lesbians will be there for the premiere)

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 21, 2023 12:33 PM (B1FKF)

176 Not Don Lemon. Nobody would think he's important enough to invite.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (0FoWg)

Where's he been?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:33 PM (miT2W)

177 I'll bet the 8 can be accessed by their filings.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 21, 2023 12:33 PM (CecP5)

178

Diamonds, because she'll pretty much have to...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at December 21, 2023 12:33 PM (Jo6t3)

179 Keep in mind:
Epstein Island is not the only one our elites visit.
And, there is a mini Epstein Island in every major city.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator

No idea what the age of consent is in the USVI, but Epstein had other another place or two, but it struck me as odd he didn't have a place in Hawaii - age of consent was 14 there until recently and they were probably more lenient on escourt services than any where else in the country.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 21, 2023 12:34 PM (cOq4q)

180 Elite Eight?

Didn't Monica say it was more of a Bent 6?

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2023 12:34 PM (HSyGa)

181 Here's the Order, which gives a summary of why each name is being released or not released.

http://tinyurl.com/yfcb79mc

Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (bLe0J)

182 Would Pierre Delecto get protection?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (miT2W)

183 > His wife said he was and that she was divorcing him because of it. And...as soon as she publicly said so Gates agreed to her terms and...she stopped talking.

Yes, but she was very coy about it. She just said she didn't like his association with Epstein. When people asked her to expound on the idea, she said it was Bill's responsibility to explain. So far as I know, there's no confirmation Bill Gates went to the island and had sex with minors.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (R38qh)

184 I knew it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (Ms4RE)

185 177 I'll bet the 8 can be accessed by their filings.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 21, 2023 12:33 PM (CecP5)

No way the filing are not sealed. National security or another bullshit reason...

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (KSNKu)

186 Some people profess to be shocked by this, but it happens every day and night in every city and every high end restaurant, hotel, and club in the world. There is no shortage of girls ready, willing, and eager to participate in this

======

"I would never!!!"

How many women do you know that are saying right now, "I will break up with him after Christmas."

And how many men are saying the same thing?

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (2ui+A)

187 "Elite" eight.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (fKIdX)

188 120 91 In fact, there is more supply than demand. Any high-end Hamptons or Manhattan party will have more girls jockeying for invites than there are invites available.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

And of course, South Beach, where you can't get a meal for under 4 figures.
Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 12:24 PM (sm6Pk)
______

Any place in the world where there are rich guys and hot girls. For sure SB.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (iFTx/)

189 Reminds me of that old Natasha Leggiero joke, "How do they make diamonds? I don't know. The only way I know how to make diamonds is by jerking off an old man."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 21, 2023 12:31 PM (Q0kLU)

Diamonds? My understanding was those are pearls.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (KSNKu)

190 > Would Pierre Delecto get protection?

Maybe. On the one hand, he's fairly small potatoes. On the other hand, he's a useful tool to the left. I suspect the left would protect him so he can continue criticizing Trump "from the right."

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (R38qh)

191 Here's the problem: in this instance, the elites aren't viewed solely as democrats. This isn't the same as Hunter getting away with everything.

As I said earlier, I want EVERYONE exposed, including Republicans. However, it's the Dems that are in power, and this whole coverup stinks of their usual MO, and people know that.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (CsUN+)

192
Trump said 'Pussy'.

Case closed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (XeU6L)

193 The Gang of Eight is a colloquial term for a set of eight leaders within the United States Congress who are briefed on classified intelligence matters.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (8mE42)

194 @32

>>Serious question: what legal basis does anyone have to get their name removed from this list?

The same way an anonymous whistleblower can instigate impeachment proceedings against a sitting President and remain anonymous on penalty of prosecution.

People speak of the two-tiered justice system, they're wrong, their is one tier, it's literally whatever the maniacs in charge decide to do.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (rc3Z7)

195 >>> Years ago I worked for a large company; the CEO (who was an old grey-haired white guy) was caught fooling around with a young female executive. He was terminated but then all us low-ranking proles in the company had to take ethics training…. Because the CEO was fooling around…. To teach us not to fool around.

Like Tailhook and Clinton directly resulted in peons being punished with 'training'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 21, 2023 12:37 PM (cOq4q)

196 192
Trump said 'Pussy'.

Case closed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (XeU6L)

Even Worse.

He said "YUUUUUUUUUGE".

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 12:37 PM (sm6Pk)

197 >>>34 Joe and Hunter Biden are on that list, I'm betting.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)
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I kinda doubt it. Guys like Biden have different networks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Think the guys on the plane are trash?
The guys on the plane think the Bidens are such trash they weren't allowed on the plane.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 12:37 PM (yc+Nx)

198 111 This was all a "yacht girls" thing. Not really prostitutes, but definitely willing to have sex with rich and powerful guys in exchange for exposure to luxury and the high life.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

If they're very good at it then they can end up a Duchess. Sure, they have to marry an imbecile but but that time they're already taken a few hundred for the team.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (1Z8zZ)
________

That is the ultimate prize they are all gunning for. It worked for whatever Bezos' fiance's name is too.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:37 PM (iFTx/)

199 Life is about drawing lines. If you take the concept to extremes, then any attempt by any guy to wine-and-dine a girl, buy her Valentine's Day gifts, take her on vacation, mow the lawn, fix the leaking pipe, or do anything that might influence the girl into having sex is basically also prostitution. Every guy in the country would be in jail.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (iFTx/)
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Yup, taken to extremes, marriage is prostitution. There is a major qualitative difference. Sex for cash is prostitution. Sex for goods is prostitution, too. The yacht girls are whores.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:37 PM (zxP/x)

200 Hopefully a true hero congres through and leaks everything.

Posted by: Rbastid at December 21, 2023 12:26 PM (9orLN)

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. You want a true congressional hero who leaks everything.

. You'll settle for a congressional ChiComm honeypot spy leaking everything to WikiLeaks.

. You'll get a leaking staffer pounded in the ass in the Capitol performing anal & dick congress.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:37 PM (TZd1U)

201 JFK or any number of other conspiracies? The truth has come out but not many can discern what it is.
Posted by: OneEyedJack

I. Knew. It!

Bug Eyed Little Grey Alien Spacemen.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 21, 2023 12:37 PM (3CCua)

202 John McAfee still alive? Out of jail?
Posted by: BignJames at December 21, 2023 12:19 PM (AwYPR)

Daid.

8 September 1945 – 23 June 2021

Found dead in his jail cell by hanging after the Spanish National Court ordered his extradition to Tennessee.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 21, 2023 12:38 PM (/HDaX)

203 The way the venomous spit foams up in here, from a step or two back it would appear that many of us have a rock-ribbed sense of ethics based mostly upon our unattractive and impecunious nature.

But at least we don't drink.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 21, 2023 12:38 PM (FCs/J)

204 Howdy Ace, Horde,

This is one more flash of the Hieronymous Bosch nightmare lurking under the Norman Rockwell facade. Spooks, honeypots, blackmail, black masses. You know, whatever the bad guys are so desperate to protect in the Ukraine operation. Something much uglier than a mere grift.

Posted by: callsign claymore at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (JcnCJ)

205 I like pointing out overlooked perspectives:

We all know they are degenerate preverts,

But they are also brazen and stupid enough to hook up with what was obviously a blackmail/sting operation

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (GYfUx)

206 How many of you know Ghislaine Maxwell was an invited guest at Chelsea Clinton's wedding?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (CecP5)

207 [puts down morning bourbon]

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (/HDaX)

208 Yup, taken to extremes, marriage is prostitution. There is a major qualitative difference. Sex for cash is prostitution. Sex for goods is prostitution, too. The yacht girls are whores.

Eh, that's a bit much. Most johns want the prostitute to leave after sex, not move in and have kids with him.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (CsUN+)

209 Why isn't Abbott flooding tiny DE with illegals?

Would cause instant stress.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (9MwrL)

210 This was all a "yacht girls" thing. Not really prostitutes, but definitely willing to have sex with rich and powerful guys in exchange for exposure to luxury and the high life.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

If you get a girl on a boat, she can't refuse. Because of the implication.

Posted by: Dennis Reynolds at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (fKIdX)

211 If they're very good at it then they can end up a Duchess. Sure, they have to marry an imbecile but but that time they're already taken a few hundred for the team.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (1Z8zZ)
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But then they may face the ultimate failure, like Sparkles is now facing. It turns out that being a Duchess sucks and now you're bound up to a man you dislike and disrespect after having doubled down so hard that you can't undo it, just as the tank runs out of gas. You'll never do better. There is no further "up." It's game over.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (zxP/x)

212 199 Life is about drawing lines. If you take the concept to extremes, then any attempt by any guy to wine-and-dine a girl, buy her Valentine's Day gifts, take her on vacation, mow the lawn, fix the leaking pipe, or do anything that might influence the girl into having sex is basically also prostitution. Every guy in the country would be in jail.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (iFTx/)
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Yup, taken to extremes, marriage is prostitution. There is a major qualitative difference. Sex for cash is prostitution. Sex for goods is prostitution, too. The yacht girls are whores.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:37 PM (zxP/x)
__________

"Don't be hating!"

-- Yacht Girls

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:40 PM (iFTx/)

213 In my miss spent youth, there was a Restaurant/Club I went to from time to time. Many young women, dressed in their finery. I recall a fetching covey, there early were swept way by a bunch of geezers. They had their yacht moored just out the picture window. As thy all went on board, I thought to myself. *gota get enough money to own, or rent a yacht*.

Posted by: Paladin at December 21, 2023 12:40 PM (+Ivv+)

214 172 Life is about drawing lines. If you take the concept to extremes, then any attempt by any guy to wine-and-dine a girl, buy her Valentine's Day gifts, take her on vacation, mow the lawn, fix the leaking pipe, or do anything that might influence the girl into having sex is basically also prostitution. Every guy in the country would be in jail.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (iFTx/)

And that's why you have to have a snappy quip that'll really stick the knife in their throat about it.

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 12:40 PM (sm6Pk)

215 >>> When every girl is doing it, nobody's all that interested in most girls.

Posted by: bonhomme
----------------------

And a whole generation of women for whom perversity is a lifestyle.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 12:40 PM (yc+Nx)

216 No idea what the age of consent is in the USVI, but Epstein had other another place or two, ...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 21, 2023 12:34 PM (cOq4q)

He had his NYC Brownstone and a "ranch" in Arizona. Amazingly the AZ place and the Island were never raided and searched when they arrested the pervert. I wonder how much was cleaned up and by Whom?

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:40 PM (2ui+A)

217 The Gang of Eight is a colloquial term for a set of eight leaders within the United States Congress who are briefed on classified intelligence matters.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty

No math.

But if one summed the IQ of thay gang of 8, conveeted it to pinto beans...there wouldn't be enough to make a Venezuelan Commie fart.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 21, 2023 12:40 PM (3CCua)

218 Eh, that's a bit much. Most johns want the prostitute to leave after sex, not move in and have kids with him.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (CsUN+)
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Like I said, taken to extremes. As Elric put it, people have to draw a line somewhere. Yacht girls are pretty firmly on the "whore" side of the line, at least in my interpretation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:40 PM (zxP/x)

219 Was Duchess Megan a yacht girl?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (miT2W)

220 If you get a girl on a boat, she can't refuse. Because of the implication.
Posted by: Dennis Reynolds at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (fKIdX)
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It's all about the "tasty treats."

Posted by: Creepy and Mysterious Yacht Owner at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (7fElN)

221 It is unknown why the eight vanished from the list
________

No one can even guess.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (1bNHn)

222 218 Like I said, taken to extremes. As Elric put it, people have to draw a line somewhere. Yacht girls are pretty firmly on the "whore" side of the line, at least in my interpretation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:40 PM (zxP/x)

===

Their just living their best truth in our precious democracy!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (GBKbO)

223 Yacht girls are prostitutes.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (yc+Nx)

224 "If you get a girl on a boat she can't refuse."

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Natalie Wood at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (y7OCM)

225 Sudden Cardiac Death - Ages 0-54 increases to 41.5% excess, week 48 2023

https://is.gd/hcan1C

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:42 PM (R38qh)

226 People speak of the two-tiered justice system, they're wrong, their is one tier, it's literally whatever the maniacs in charge decide to do.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (rc3Z7)

That exactly correct if you leave out "justice" as a modifier.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 21, 2023 12:42 PM (KSNKu)

227 Serious question: what legal basis does anyone have to get their name removed from this list?

***.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (rc3Z7)

The order specifies the basis.

Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2023 12:42 PM (JCFuC)

228 In my miss spent youth, there was a Restaurant/Club I went to from time to time. Many young women, dressed in their finery. I recall a fetching covey, there early were swept way by a bunch of geezers. They had their yacht moored just out the picture window. As thy all went on board, I thought to myself. *gota get enough money to own, or rent a yacht*.
Posted by: Paladin at December 21, 2023 12:40 PM (+Ivv+)
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I remember being surprised to learn that a big chunk of the women at the bar at the high-end steakhouse I would go to on special occasions were working girls.

For me, though, it's pretty easy to figure out. If they come ask *me* for a drink, the odds of them being whores are extremely high.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:42 PM (zxP/x)

229 Some people profess to be shocked by this, but it happens every day and night in every city and every high end restaurant, hotel, and club in the world. There is no shortage of girls ready, willing, and eager to participate in this.

In fact, there is more supply than demand. Any high-end Hamptons or Manhattan party will have more girls jockeying for invites than there are invites available.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
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But it isn't prostitution - it's just a high-end environment where one thing leads to another...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:20 PM (zxP/x)

They're semi-hooers who put out for living the high life. They get paid in kind with the yacht trips, private jets, gourmet meals, lavish hotel rooms, booze, drugs, etc. Some of them are full on hooers who require all the above plus cash payment.

Posted by: Instagram has become backpage at December 21, 2023 12:42 PM (wtpA4)

230 223 Yacht girls are prostitutes

throatwarbler mangrove girls > yacht girls

Posted by: anachronda at December 21, 2023 12:42 PM (sGtp+)

231
If Russian Intelligence was 1/10 as competent as the dems claim they are they'd release the list publicly, (they'd know) take credit and say "how's this for disinformation, bitches?"

Posted by: Auspex at December 21, 2023 12:43 PM (6ZtAH)

232 Their just living their best truth in our precious democracy!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (GBKbO)
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Yes, they are. And their best truth just happens to be that they're whores. Pricey, elite whores they may be.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:43 PM (zxP/x)

233 For me, though, it's pretty easy to figure out. If they come ask *me* for a drink, the odds of them being whores are extremely high.

I've NEVER had that happen. Either I need to hang out in higher-class steakhouses, or do better on my personal grooming.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:43 PM (CsUN+)

234 >It is unknown why the eight vanished from the list, but court records ...

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because they are all Well-Connected
my guess is prominent politicians in positions of power

Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 12:43 PM (geLO8)

235 Was Duchess Megan a yacht girl?
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (miT2W)

Worse. She was a Hollywood starlet.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 21, 2023 12:44 PM (/HDaX)

236 Natasha Leggiero joke, "How do they make diamonds? I don't know. The only way I know how to make diamonds is by jerking off an old man."

Does God still kill a kitten?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 21, 2023 12:44 PM (8mE42)

237 Here's the Order, which gives a summary of why each name is being released or not released.

http://tinyurl.com/yfcb79mc
Posted by: LASue

Two are apparently minors.

The rest are not included.

Posted by: Miklos just checked at December 21, 2023 12:44 PM (wAZ5s)

238 I've NEVER had that happen. Either I need to hang out in higher-class steakhouses, or do better on my personal grooming.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:43 PM (CsUN+)
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A single guy dressed for work that is clearly not manual labor, alone in a high-end restaurant or the bar of a classy hotel is a potential customer no matter what.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:44 PM (zxP/x)

239 >>Serious question: what legal basis does anyone have to get their name removed from this list?

The same way an anonymous whistleblower can instigate impeachment proceedings against a sitting President and remain anonymous on penalty of prosecution.

People speak of the two-tiered justice system, they're wrong, their is one tier, it's literally whatever the maniacs in charge decide to do.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (rc3Z7)

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Good point, Thomas.

Out: CalvinBall.
In: CalvinLaw.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:44 PM (TZd1U)

240 Any name's rhyme with Phil Rinton?
Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:04 PM (kRLQK)

Phil Mates

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 12:45 PM (aD39U)

241 It turns out that being a Duchess sucks and now you're bound up to a man you dislike and disrespect after having doubled down so hard that you can't undo it, just as the tank runs out of gas. You'll never do better. There is no further "up." It's game over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

And that justices serves them right. They should've given the average guy down the street with a blue collar future an opportunity to dance with them at the high school prom. Life would've been both more satisfying for both, and definitely a better long term outcome for the girl.

Let them suffer in their bitter old age with the loss of the life they could've had burned i to their hypocampus with their boat friends.

No. I am not bitter, but i do believe in karma.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 21, 2023 12:45 PM (3CCua)

242 We thot you cared.

Posted by: Yacht Girl at December 21, 2023 12:45 PM (9MwrL)

243 174 > It's all a pipeline, and TikTok and Instagram are the junior level. That's where the young girls go to enter a reinforcement pattern that leads them to OnlyFans when they become legal.

What's funny, in a very dark sort of way, is only a very small percent of OnlyFans accounts make much money. When every girl is doing it, nobody's all that interested in most girls.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (R38qh)
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The vast majority of OF are not really for making money, but for ego-stroking and status. Not much different than whoring for likes or followers on IG. Social media and the collapse of societal norms has turned many many under-25 girls into status-desperate exhibitionists.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:45 PM (iFTx/)

244 No. I am not bitter

Are you sure? Because it sounds like you are.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:46 PM (CsUN+)

245 Dom Tanks

Posted by: ET at December 21, 2023 12:46 PM (AMzZ8)

246 No idea what the age of consent is in the USVI, but Epstein had other another place or two, but it struck me as odd he didn't have a place in Hawaii - age of consent was 14 there until recently and they were probably more lenient on escourt services than any where else in the country.
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That's easy.
Because the stupidest and most vile senator in Congress:
Her family controls ruthlessly the prostitution in those islands.

Like I said, there is more than one island for the pedos to go to sample fresh meat.

The reason the FBI burned all the records from Epstein's Island was to destroy the connections to the worldwide pedo prostitution network--can't risk some low-level idiot agent stumbling onto that if they put it into evidence.
Burned to keep from having to enter it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 21, 2023 12:46 PM (TzW+Y)

247 If they're very good at it then they can end up a Duchess. Sure, they have to marry an imbecile but but that time they're already taken a few hundred for the team.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (1Z8zZ)
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But then they may face the ultimate failure, like Sparkles is now facing. It turns out that being a Duchess sucks and now you're bound up to a man you dislike and disrespect after having doubled down so hard that you can't undo it, just as the tank runs out of gas. You'll never do better. There is no further "up." It's game over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (zxP/x)

=======

She despises him, because she is wondering why he settled for an over the hill, washed up, third rate actress like her? She knows how fucked out and fucked up she is and hates herself and anyone naive enough to marry her.

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:46 PM (2ui+A)

248 >Serious question: what legal basis does anyone have to get their name removed from this list?
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it's more financial leverage than anything else
quid pro quo
'here's 5 million for your foundation'

Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 12:46 PM (geLO8)

249 No. I am not bitter

This is about me, isn't it.......

OH!! You said 'bitter.' My mistake.

Posted by: Marv Albert at December 21, 2023 12:46 PM (Zz0t1)

250 1. Joe Biden
2. Barack Obama
3. Bill Gates
4. Dick Durbin
5. Mitch McConnell
6. Kevin McCarthy
7. John Roberts
8. Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Archer at December 21, 2023 12:46 PM (gmo/4)

251 For me, though, it's pretty easy to figure out. If they come ask *me* for a drink, the odds of them being whores are extremely high.

I've NEVER had that happen. Either I need to hang out in higher-class steakhouses, or do better on my personal grooming.
Posted by: Archimedes

Ditto. But i call it camoflage.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 21, 2023 12:47 PM (3CCua)

252 The vast majority of OF are not really for making money, but for ego-stroking and status. Not much different than whoring for likes or followers on IG. Social media and the collapse of societal norms has turned many many under-25 girls into status-desperate exhibitionists.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:45 PM (iFTx/)
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Yeah, it's quite grotesque and the snapback - there will be one, eventually - is probably going to be pretty severe.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:47 PM (zxP/x)

253 >>Social media and the collapse of societal norms has turned many many under-25 girls into status-desperate exhibitionists*.

*Girls Gone Wild is unavailable for comment.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2023 12:47 PM (HSyGa)

254 God has a sense of humor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at December 21, 2023 12:47 PM (GmPfo)

255 196 192
Trump said 'Pussy'.

Case closed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2023 12:36 PM (XeU6L)

Even Worse.

He said "YUUUUUUUUUGE".

this is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: sandra fluke at December 21, 2023 12:47 PM (sGtp+)

256 220 If you get a girl on a boat, she can't refuse. Because of the implication.
Posted by: Dennis Reynolds at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM (fKIdX)

If she says no, I mean, of course, no means no, but she isn't going to say no. Because of the implication.

Posted by: Why aren't you understanding this? at December 21, 2023 12:47 PM (wtpA4)

257 > The vast majority of OF are not really for making money, but for ego-stroking and status.

OK, but that's irrelevant to my point. If they're not making money, not many are looking. The market's saturated.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:48 PM (R38qh)

258 >Was Duchess Megan a yacht girl?

I thought she was a hosebag

Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 12:48 PM (geLO8)

259 8 democrat, politicians, movie actors, music execs, pro athletes.

Posted by: Eromero at December 21, 2023 12:48 PM (uLU00)

260 Univ student in Prague reenacted the Charles Whitman bit. 15 dead so far.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 12:48 PM (MvF+J)

261 2 of the 8 are probably Bill and Hillary Clinton.
The other 6 are probably all Bidens.

Posted by: Naqamel at December 21, 2023 12:48 PM (O6wMt)

262 >>>But they are also brazen and stupid enough to hook up with what was obviously a blackmail/sting operation

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest
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As Tucker Carlson said - Hunter Biden lived in my neighborhood - he didn't appear corrupt - he didn't appear corrupt because he was no more corrupt than anyone else in the neighborhood.
The Bidens are not the most corrupt. They [DC] all are corrupt.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 12:48 PM (yc+Nx)

263 >>The market's saturated.

As are the Yacht Girls.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2023 12:48 PM (HSyGa)

264 In other words, the US Government needs to control these people. Keep it secret, keep them under control.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 21, 2023 12:49 PM (Z8Yh2)

265 172
or do anything that might influence the girl into having sex is basically also prostitution. Every guy in the country would be in jail.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (iFTx/)
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No no. It's prostitution and a crime only when the Government doesn't get its pound of meat from the transaction (taxes).

Posted by: Ciampino - Johnny Carson or Leno would have a year of material at December 21, 2023 12:49 PM (qfLjt)

266 Redactions?

$200,000 same as in town.

Posted by: DaveA at December 21, 2023 12:49 PM (FhXTo)

267 also seen at yahoo:

An armed man opened fire in a university building in downtown Prague on Thursday, killing 10 people and sowing widespread panic with one of the Czech Republic's worst mass shootings of its kind, police and the city's rescue service said.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 21, 2023 12:49 PM (B1FKF)

268 >>Univ student in Prague reenacted the Charles Whitman bit. 15 dead so far.

Unpossible. That ONLY happens in America.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2023 12:49 PM (HSyGa)

269 Univ student in Prague reenacted the Charles Whitman bit. 15 dead so far.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 12:48 PM (MvF+J)

Can't be. There are laws against guns there. Not possible. This only happens in America where MAGA still runs wild in the streets.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:49 PM (Zz0t1)

270 Bill Gates - one of eight.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 12:50 PM (yc+Nx)

271 Are you sure? Because it sounds like you are.
Posted by: Archimedes

Yeah, i'm certain. I watched real people whore themselves out for the popular kid and the rich kid. Made an impression on my young mind for the quality of a person's morals. Didn't want anything to do with them, especially when i was temporarily useful for cheating off of during a math test. Would deliberately write in the wrong answers, then change them right before i handed in the paper.

I'm a mean veindictive asshole, with a verly low tolerance of being used.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 21, 2023 12:50 PM (3CCua)

272 Archer’s list reads like he almost ‘knows’ something.

Posted by: Eromero at December 21, 2023 12:50 PM (uLU00)

273 A piece of eight.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 12:51 PM (yc+Nx)

274 I was wrong: the 8 are not identified at all in the Order, nor any reason for non-disclosure. Those who are ordered not disclosed are mainly identffied as minor victims who haven't come forward, or in 2-3 cases, "classic outsiders."

The 8 - ???? No explanation.

Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2023 12:51 PM (Gq9/0)

275 253 >>Social media and the collapse of societal norms has turned many many under-25 girls into status-desperate exhibitionists*.

*Girls Gone Wild is unavailable for comment.
Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2023 12:47 PM (HSyGa)
____________

That was one of the earlier efforts at basically the same thing. The girls weren't even paid for it. They just showed their naked boobs to a rando with a video camera. That should give you an idea how many girls out there are willing to do this, especially if there is some incentive like a yacht ride.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 12:52 PM (iFTx/)

276 Archer’s list reads like he almost ‘knows’ something.

Posted by: Eromero at December 21, 2023 12:50 PM (uLU00)

For the record, I didn't kill myself.

Posted by: Archer at December 21, 2023 12:52 PM (gmo/4)

277 The way the venomous spit foams up in here, from a step or two back it would appear that many of us have a rock-ribbed sense of ethics based mostly upon our unattractive and impecunious nature.

Any woman desperate enough to have sex with me deserves what she gets.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 21, 2023 12:52 PM (Q0kLU)

278 For me, though, it's pretty easy to figure out. If they come ask *me* for a drink, the odds of them being whores are extremely high.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 21, 2023 12:42 PM (zxP/x)

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One of THE most painful movie and TV tropes to witness ... upon which my poor long-suffering wife has to endure yet another scream from me: "It's a trap!"

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (TZd1U)

279 What's funny, in a very dark sort of way, is only a very small percent of OnlyFans accounts make much money. When every girl is doing it, nobody's all that interested in most girls.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (R38qh)

As has been pointed out elsewhere, these girls put their "business" on the internet because they think they'll get rich. Not only do they NOT get rich but having done this at all lowers their value among the men who might have settled down with them.

It's almost as there were a cabal dedicated to maximizing human misery while minimizing the size of future generations. But the would take a worldwide forum of some kind.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (1Z8zZ)

280 >>That was one of the earlier efforts at basically the same thing. The girls weren't even paid for it. They just showed their naked boobs to a rando with a video camera. That should give you an idea how many girls out there are willing to do this, especially if there is some incentive like a yacht ride.

Yacht...

or, Bus.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (HSyGa)

281 For me, though, it's pretty easy to figure out. If they come ask *me* for a drink, the odds of them being whores are extremely high.

I've NEVER had that happen. Either I need to hang out in higher-class steakhouses, or do better on my personal grooming.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 21, 2023 12:43 PM (CsUN+)

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A Rolex or other high end watch helps. So do nice shoes and other accessories.

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (VTxcg)

282 Hateful Eight

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (GmPfo)

283 64 In other words, the US Government needs to control these people. Keep it secret, keep them under control.
Posted by: DOYLE at December 21, 2023 12:49 PM (Z8Yh2)

My very words:

Keep it secret…keep it safe

Posted by: Gandalf the Pimp at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (TTAGa)

284 >>> So far as I know, there's no confirmation Bill Gates went to the island AND had sex with minors.
Posted by: bonhomme

So it could be one or the other.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (cOq4q)

285
Yacht...

or, Bus.
Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (HSyGa)

WOOT!

Posted by: Bang Bros at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

286 So, Keens and a Carhartt are a no then?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at December 21, 2023 12:54 PM (GmPfo)

287 If the elite 8 are Democrats the media would ignore the information anyway.
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Media heads are probably on the list of Eight.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 21, 2023 12:54 PM (pjktp)

288 I imagine that the names that have the money and clout within Our Elite Ruling Class to successfully remain anonymous will be conspicuous in their absence from the disclosure.

Posted by: ballistic at December 21, 2023 12:55 PM (oqH4h)

289 I saw Keens and a Carhartt open for Hank Williams Jr. at Billy Bob's in '88.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:55 PM (Zz0t1)

290 So far as I know, there's no confirmation Bill Gates went to the island and had sex with minors.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (R38qh)

He would be more likely to inject them with a "vaccine" which would harm them in some way. He does, after all, have a history of that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:55 PM (1Z8zZ)

291 The way the venomous spit foams up in here, from a step or two back it would appear that many of us have a rock-ribbed sense of ethics based mostly upon our unattractive and impecunious nature.

Any woman desperate enough to have sex with me deserves what she gets.
Posted by: MP4

Yeah. There's a reason Smash and I have been together for 40+ years. She is, bar none, the only person I truly desire to be around and is my best friend.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 21, 2023 12:56 PM (3CCua)

292 258 >Was Duchess Megan a yacht girl?
I thought she was a hosebag
Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 12:48 PM (geLO

The implication that her Royal Highness the Duchess-of-Suffolk-who-used-to-star-in-"Suits" is a trollop is actionable, sir.!

Have at you!

Posted by: Auspex at December 21, 2023 12:56 PM (6ZtAH)

293 Why would there be a #183 on a list of 177 names?

Posted by: Oglebay at December 21, 2023 12:56 PM (ogTiX)

294 Yup, taken to extremes, marriage is prostitution. There is a major qualitative difference. Sex for cash is prostitution. Sex for goods is prostitution, too. The yacht girls are whores.

Over time marriage costs the guy way more than frequenting hookers ever would.

Posted by: And about half the time she leaves anyway at December 21, 2023 12:56 PM (wtpA4)

295 270 Bill Gates - one of eight.

ranma one of two > bill gates one of eight

Posted by: anachronda at December 21, 2023 12:56 PM (sGtp+)

296 So far as I know, there's no confirmation Bill Gates went to the island and had sex with minors.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (R38qh)

He has a history with Epstein. His wife specifically mentioned their relationship as a reason for their divorce. The leap is almost like stepping over a crack in the sidewalk.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

297 8. Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Archer at December 21, 2023 12:46 PM (gmo/4)

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"That would be just perfect."

-- Zombie Jan "The Man" Reno

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:57 PM (TZd1U)

298 293 Why would there be a #183 on a list of 177 names?

we were told there would be no math on this list

Posted by: civil servants at December 21, 2023 12:57 PM (sGtp+)

299 8. Hillary Clinton

It would not surprise me in the least if Scankles were on Pedo Island. She definitely has a vibe that shouts "gets off on torturing underage girls and forcing them into pleasuring her."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 21, 2023 12:57 PM (Q0kLU)

300 Bill Gates having sex with an 8080 CPU:
PUSH
POP
PUSH
POP
PUSH
POP
NOP
NOP
NOP
HLT

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 12:57 PM (MvF+J)

301 >> Yup, taken to extremes, marriage is prostitution.

And every Divorce Settlement is a Post Hoc negotiation for affections rendered.

Posted by: garrett at December 21, 2023 12:58 PM (HSyGa)

302 294 Yup, taken to extremes, marriage is prostitution. There is a major qualitative difference. Sex for cash is prostitution. Sex for goods is prostitution, too. The yacht girls are whores.

Over time marriage costs the guy way more than frequenting hookers ever would.

depends. what's the frequency, kenneth?

Posted by: anachronda at December 21, 2023 12:58 PM (sGtp+)

303 He has a history with Epstein. His wife specifically mentioned their relationship as a reason for their divorce. The leap is almost like stepping over a crack in the sidewalk.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

Contrary to popular belief, stepping on a crack does not break your mother's back.

Posted by: The more you know at December 21, 2023 12:58 PM (wtpA4)

304 They stopped Whitman when the locals got their guns and pinned him down long enough that a cop and civilian could take him out.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 21, 2023 12:58 PM (L8hCM)

305 BNO News @BNONews 2h
UNIVERSITY MASS SHOOTING
- In Prague, Czech Republic
- Charles University's Faculty of Arts
- Gunman with rifle opened fire
- Police confirm multiple deaths
- 'Dozens' reportedly injured
- Suspect killed in fall from roof
- No word yet on a motive

BNO News @BNONews 52m
BREAKING: Gunman in Prague killed father at home before university shooting, police say

BREAKING: At least 15 people killed in Czech university shooting, police say. Suspect identified as student

BREAKING: At least 11 dead, including gunman, and 24 injured in university mass shooting in Prague, officials say

Shooter at Charles University in Prague was killed when he fell from the roof, possibly after shooting himself, mayor says - iDNES

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:58 PM (2yu8s)

306 Bill Gates having sex with an 8080 CPU:

I'm guessing you meant 8088.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)

307 BNO News @BNONews 22m
Rudy Giuliani files for bankruptcy week after being ordered to pay $148 million for defamation

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:59 PM (2yu8s)

308 As has been pointed out elsewhere, these girls put their "business" on the internet because they think they'll get rich. Not only do they NOT get rich but having done this at all lowers their value among the men who might have settled down with them.

It's almost as there were a cabal dedicated to maximizing human misery while minimizing the size of future generations. But the would take a worldwide forum of some kind.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:53 PM (1Z8zZ)

==========

Do you know who gives young women this self destructive advice?

Other Women. Usually older, single desperate women looking to sabotage their "competition."

You go girl! You can fuck like a man if you want! Go for it!
(In a few short years you will be as washed up and as bitter as I am!)

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:59 PM (G7pla)

309 If Bill Gates doesn't kill himself, I can see the headlines now:

"The Blue Scream of Death."

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 12:59 PM (TZd1U)

310 #183 of #177
Dead already or more unmentioned

Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2023 12:59 PM (fwDg9)

311 306 Bill Gates having sex with an 8080 CPU:

I'm guessing you meant 8088.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)

80085

Posted by: Heh heh. Heh heh heh. at December 21, 2023 01:00 PM (wtpA4)

312 306 Nope, my Altair had an 8080, then a Z80.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 01:00 PM (MvF+J)

313 He would be more likely to inject them with a "vaccine" which would harm them in some way. He does, after all, have a history of that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 12:55 PM (1Z8zZ)

I like the sound of that plan…

Posted by: Ed Buck at December 21, 2023 01:00 PM (TTAGa)

314 Was Duchess Megan a yacht girl?
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (miT2W)

She was indeed. Supposedly a quite popular one although no one will say why that was.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 01:00 PM (1Z8zZ)

315 Bill Clinton and Bill Gates breathing a little easier today.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at December 21, 2023 01:00 PM (zdYK9)

316 271 I'm a mean veindictive asshole, with a verly low tolerance of being used.

not certain whether typo or anatomical reference

Posted by: anachronda at December 21, 2023 01:01 PM (sGtp+)

317 The life of a Yacht Girl is fraught with peril, but at least we get uniforms.

Posted by: Admiral Levine at December 21, 2023 01:01 PM (DZrNt)

318 But they are also brazen and stupid enough to hook up with what was obviously a blackmail/sting operation
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 21, 2023 12:39 PM

Not brazen or stupid. Things like trips to Epstein Island are the price of admission. If you want to play in that game, you have to stick your dick in a kid, or something else really bad.

They knew they were being compromised. Cost of doing bidness.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 01:01 PM (0FoWg)

319 When did elite become synonymous with pervert?
I remember when elites climbed mountains, explored jungles and led troops into battle.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 01:01 PM (miT2W)

320 @BNONews 22m
Rudy Giuliani files for bankruptcy week after being ordered to pay $148 million for defamation
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:59 PM (2yu8s)

Like the Alex Jones settlement, this was an incredibly ludicrous ruling.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 01:01 PM (Zz0t1)

321 293 Why would there be a #183 on a list of 177 names?

Posted by: Oglebay at December 21, 2023 12:56 PM (ogTiX)
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Common Core Arithmetic.

Posted by: Ciampino - Not Math as that may imply Algebra, Calculus, Trig at December 21, 2023 01:02 PM (qfLjt)

322 BREAKING: At least 11 dead, including gunman, and 24 injured in university mass shooting in Prague, officials say

Shooter at Charles University in Prague was killed when he fell from the roof, possibly after shooting himself, mayor says - iDNES
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:58 PM (2yu8s)

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Impossible! All the Gun Banning Experts tell me this only happens in America!

/sarc

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 01:02 PM (G7pla)

323 Do you know who gives young women this self destructive advice?

Other Women. Usually older, single desperate women looking to sabotage their "competition."

You go girl! You can fuck like a man if you want! Go for it!
(In a few short years you will be as washed up and as bitter as I am!)
Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:59 PM (G7pla)
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There are a lot of cats that need good homes!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 21, 2023 01:02 PM (7fElN)

324 320 @BNONews 22m
Rudy Giuliani files for bankruptcy week after being ordered to pay $148 million for defamation
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:59 PM (2yu8s)

Like the Alex Jones settlement, this was an incredibly ludicrous ruling.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 01:01 PM (Zz0t1)
________

Yup. Both were fucked not for lying, but for telling the truth . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 01:02 PM (iFTx/)

325 312 I got a letter from Bill Gates around 1976, where he was ranting about all the people stealing Altair Basic. I didn't purchase or use Altair Basic. I wish I had kept the letter. I wish I had kept my Altairs.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 01:02 PM (MvF+J)

326
Do you know who gives young women this self destructive advice?

Other Women. Usually older, single desperate women looking to sabotage their "competition."

You go girl! You can fuck like a man if you want! Go for it!
(In a few short years you will be as washed up and as bitter as I am!)
Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 12:59 PM (G7pla)

And meanwhile men are being taught to be passive, timid, unassertive, obsequious and subservient. Seems like feminizing men and masculizing women hasn't been working too well.

Posted by: Inside out backward and upside down at December 21, 2023 01:02 PM (wtpA4)

327 283 64 In other words, the US Government needs to control these people. Keep it secret, keep them under control.
Posted by: DOYLE
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Govt does this for them; they are owned for the rest of their life.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 01:03 PM (yc+Nx)

328 @BNONews 22m
Rudy Giuliani files for bankruptcy week after being ordered to pay $148 million for defamation
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:59 PM (2yu8s)

Like the Alex Jones settlement, this was an incredibly ludicrous ruling.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 01:01 PM (Zz0t1)
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They've achieved their goal of breaking him. He no longer will have any power or influence in politics.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 21, 2023 01:03 PM (7fElN)

329 Somebody HAS to leak these names. These are obviously THE names we need to have. The people most likely to object are the ones who KNOW what they did.

Posted by: deadrody at December 21, 2023 01:03 PM (OeYsY)

330 Nope, my Altair had an 8080, then a Z80.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 01:00 PM (MvF+J)

Sometimes, my brain fails.

As my excuse, I will enter "it was before my time."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

331 330 IBM PC used 8088.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 01:05 PM (MvF+J)

332 And that justices serves them right. They should've given the average guy down the street with a blue collar future an opportunity to dance with them at the high school prom. Life would've been both more satisfying for both, and definitely a better long term outcome for the girl.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 21, 2023 12:45 PM (3CCua)

In fairness to Megan, she's on her 3rd husband and each of the others gave her a boost. She figured riding the Ginger Whinger would get her closer to Willie and she could ease Kate out of the picture.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 01:05 PM (1Z8zZ)

333 300 Bill Gates having sex with an 8080 CPU:
PUSH
POP
PUSH
POP
PUSH
POP
NOP
NOP
NOP
HLT

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 12:57 PM (MvF+J)
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It would be nice to add HCF (Halt and Catch Fire)

Posted by: Ciampino - Not Math as that may imply Algebra, Calculus, Trig. at December 21, 2023 01:05 PM (qfLjt)

334 "When did elite become synonymous with pervert?"

Being called, "Elite," does not make one elite.

Posted by: davidt at December 21, 2023 01:05 PM (SYTee)

335 Here's the Order, which gives a summary of why each name is being released or not released.

http://tinyurl.com/yfcb79mc
Posted by: LASue

Two are apparently minors.

The rest are not included.

Posted by: Miklos just checked at December 21, 2023 12:44 PM (wAZ5s)
-

Went through part of the doc. This sheds a completely different light on the withheld names. Not much to see here.

Posted by: Biden's Dog smells a whole lotta malarkey, at December 21, 2023 01:05 PM (zvEEc)

336 326
Do you know who gives young women this self destructive advice?
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In the home, performance over praise.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 01:06 PM (yc+Nx)

337 335 Two are apparently minors.

The rest are not included.

Posted by: Miklos just checked at December 21, 2023 12:44 PM (wAZ5s)

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"What does being in the mining profession have to do with protecting oneself from this!"
-intentional misreading for a laugh

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 21, 2023 01:07 PM (GBKbO)

338 IBM PC used 8088.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 01:05 PM (MvF+J)

I had one. Then got an 8086. By the time I got a 286, I was in high cotton, boy....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)

339 Keep in mind this isn't Epstein's Client List. This is a list of people who were involved in the Trial who came up as a witness or tangentially involved. Not all of these people are actually guilty of any crime just that their names came up during the trial or investigation.

Posted by: Spiff The Spaceman at December 21, 2023 01:07 PM (evaxF)

340 I "learned" assembler language programming on an Ohio Scientific 6502. This was a "micro" computer that would cover most of a standard lab table and took an 8" floppy (a requirement which should have disqualified me from the class).

Posted by: Oglebay at December 21, 2023 01:08 PM (ogTiX)

341 complicit maybe

Posted by: Kindltot at December 21, 2023 01:08 PM (D7oie)

342 One of the tricks Gates used in his Basic, to save RAM, was jumping into the middle or end of 2- and 3-byte instructions. I hate that hacker shit.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 01:08 PM (MvF+J)

343 Faux Nooz reporting that Xi told Biden, in their November meeting, that he wanted to take Taiwan, "peacefully if possible."

No reporting of course on Pervy Joe's reply to Xi

Posted by: Ex GOP at December 21, 2023 01:08 PM (qS8WV)

344 "Amazon barred from selling donkey sex-drive boosting supplements in California"
Too many donkeys' sex drives are unnaturally high.

Posted by: PG at December 21, 2023 01:08 PM (gQbO4)

345 Was Duchess Megan a yacht girl?
Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 21, 2023 12:41 PM (miT2W)

She was indeed. Supposedly a quite popular one although no one will say why that was.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 01:00 PM (1Z8zZ

========

It is ironic that 50 years ago, the former prince's father was unable to marry the love of his life, Camilla Bowles Parker, because a former boyfriend let slip that he had had her when Camilla dated him.

Now Charles' son married a Thot with a four digit bodycount.

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 01:08 PM (G7pla)

346 As has been pointed out elsewhere, these girls put their "business" on the internet because they think they'll get rich. Not only do they NOT get rich but having done this at all lowers their value among the men who might have settled down with them.

I was watching another show where they had on an OF girl who claimed to be making $100K/month. They asked her what she wanted in a guy and her answer was someone making at least as much as her so she could "retire".

So they asked her what percentage of men make that much money. She guessed...5%. In fact it is less then .1%.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 21, 2023 01:09 PM (XqcwY)

347 To be fair, it looks like Radar didn't add some important context. It looks like from the filing that some of those not named are/were minor persons whose were victims. That doesn't mean that's all including Les Wexner, who was exposed so to speak during the trial. But it is at least some of those John Doe's.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 21, 2023 01:09 PM (Uh2jt)

348 338 I had one. Then got an 8086. By the time I got a 286, I was in high cotton, boy....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)

All these heathens what didn't have an NEC PC-8801 or a Fujitsu FM-7...

(I mean, I didn't either, but still...)

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 01:09 PM (sm6Pk)

349 David Atherton @DaveAtherton20
🚨Breaking News🚨

A man has opened fire killing several students & children in Prague. This is [sic] believed to be images of the dead gunman.

http://tinyurl.com/bdd2b7sj
Scoped rifle with bipod mount.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 01:10 PM (2yu8s)

350 The plane manifests were published over a year ago.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 01:10 PM (yc+Nx)

351 345 Now Charles' son married a Thot with a four digit bodycount.
Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 01:08 PM (G7pla)

When did "body count" stop meaning "number of humans you've killed"?

Posted by: XTC at December 21, 2023 01:10 PM (sm6Pk)

352 It goes like this:

"We're thinking of you for a ]Supreme Court nomination. Come talk to us. We'll meet at this great little place called Babyraper Island."

"That sounds like a place I shouldn't be. Can we meet at Starbucks?"

"No. Enjoy working probate for the rest of your life."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 21, 2023 01:10 PM (0FoWg)

353 nood

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 01:10 PM (MvF+J)

354 Epstein's Client List is a very valuable piece of property. Interestingly, the threat of disclosure is what makes it valuable, while disclosure would kill its value.

Posted by: davidt at December 21, 2023 01:10 PM (SYTee)

355 The implication that her Royal Highness the Duchess-of-Suffolk-who-used-to-star-in-"Suits" is a trollop is actionable, sir.!

Have at you!
Posted by: Auspex at December 21, 2023 12:56 PM (6ZtAH)

Just gonna say, when you get the county wrong it takes a lot of the believability out of your statement.

It's Sussex, not Suffolk.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 21, 2023 01:10 PM (1Z8zZ)

356 >>>Scoped rifle with bipod mount.

Posted by: andycanuck
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Nut jobs going high tech.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 21, 2023 01:11 PM (yc+Nx)

357 NOOD Biden Airlift

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 21, 2023 01:12 PM (/HDaX)

358 ...the missing eight -- known as Doe's # 12, 28, 97, 107, 144, 147, 171, and 183 -- filed court documents...

EEEEEiiiiuuuuu!!!!!
Sloppy 183rds!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 21, 2023 01:12 PM (W/lyH)

359 I'm guessing you meant 8088.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)

8086

He likes them young.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 01:12 PM (aD39U)

360 Now Charles' son married a Thot with a four digit bodycount.
Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 01:08 PM (G7pla)

When did "body count" stop meaning "number of humans you've killed"?
Posted by: XTC

When one is talking about THOT's. Then it how many times around on the cock carousel.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 21, 2023 01:13 PM (lXVjD)

361 In theory, the redacted names are those of informants.

Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 01:13 PM (x7m+Z)

362 the legal brief filed by lawyers for the Miami Herald and its investigative reporter Julie Brown.

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Did she ever complete her investigation of the armed homecoming queen?

Posted by: Cave Johnson at December 21, 2023 01:13 PM (BQ4Sl)

363 Anyone involved in that Giuliani ruling needs to hang

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 21, 2023 01:14 PM (/6GbT)

364 >What's funny, in a very dark sort of way, is only a very small percent of OnlyFans accounts make much money.
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I would remind you there is pr0n for everything

a fat chick could sit on the floor and cut farts, and some guys will pay to watch

Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 01:14 PM (geLO8)

365 I got a letter from Bill Gates around 1976, where he was ranting about all the people stealing Altair Basic. I didn't purchase or use Altair Basic. I wish I had kept the letter. I wish I had kept my Altairs.

Was that the program based on a printout he grabbed from the trash at school? Or am I thinking of something else?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 21, 2023 01:14 PM (dZVON)

366 The way the venomous spit foams up in here, from a step or two back it would appear that many of us have a rock-ribbed sense of ethics based mostly upon our unattractive and impecunious nature.

Any woman desperate enough to have sex with me deserves what she gets.
Posted by: MP4

I think what he's saying is when you're so ugly your fist won't fuck you it's easier to moralize about sex

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 21, 2023 01:15 PM (FCbAQ)

367 365 I think Paul Allen maybe did most of the work, but I don't doubt Gates contributed.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 21, 2023 01:15 PM (MvF+J)

368
A man has opened fire killing several students & children in Prague. This is [sic] believed to be images of the dead gunman.

http://tinyurl.com/bdd2b7sj
Scoped rifle with bipod mount.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 01:10 PM (2yu8s)

He's a murderer. Why block the eyes so you can't identify him?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 21, 2023 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)

369 I've NEVER had that happen. Either I need to hang out in higher-class steakhouses, or do better on my personal grooming.

Mmmm yea, Sizzler won't do it.

Posted by: Paladin at December 21, 2023 01:16 PM (iBtsV)

370 >for the Miami Herald and its investigative reporter Julie Brown.

yeah she was in Earth Girls Are Easy
really cute

http://tinyurl.com/3duht83t

Posted by: Don Black at December 21, 2023 01:16 PM (geLO8)

371 89 I thought the eight people left out of the court order were on the receiving end of Epstein's clientele. Am I wrong about that?
Posted by: Ralph at December 21, 2023 12:17 PM (wnTj5)

Clarify this?

Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 01:17 PM (x7m+Z)

372 Yup. Both were fucked not for lying, but for telling the truth . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 21, 2023 01:02 PM (iFTx/)

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"In The Empire Of Lies, telling the truth is a bankrupting act."

-- Stuff Orwell Said, Vol. II

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 21, 2023 01:17 PM (uLIha)

373 How many of you have seen the picture of Bill Clinton with an under age Virginia Guffrie?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 21, 2023 01:18 PM (CecP5)

374 109 Techno Fog @Techno_Fog Dec 19
A federal judge has ordered the unsealing of 167 Jeffrey Epstein “John Does” (from Ghislaine Maxwell’s civil case).

There’s a lot of confusion (and bad info from the media) surrounding this issue – here is some necessary context on the John Does.

Thread.

We previously charted and categorized each John Doe, and previously summarized this material back in Feb. 2023.

The majority (around 100 of 167) have been identified.

Approximately 11 of the unidentified John Does are victims.

Here are examples:

http://tinyurl.com/2r99pb5c
Nitter thread to read them all with screencaps of the documents.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 21, 2023 12:21 PM (2yu8s)

Thanks, andycanuck!

Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 01:20 PM (x7m+Z)

375 Gates and Allen were both first class programmers: Altair Basic ran the first time they loaded it into an actual machine. Gates won an anonymous programming contest at Microsoft - beating thousands of programmers in the process.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 21, 2023 01:22 PM (CecP5)

376 the 8 names revealed:

1. Not Joe Biden
2. Definitely not Hunter Biden
3. Bill Clinton, but not the former president just like some guy who happens to have the same name
4. Kip "Buffy" Wilson
5. Pierre Delecto / Carlos Danger (tie)
6. Also not Hunter Biden
7. Some guy named "Illbay Intonclay"
8. DRUMPF!!!!!!WE GOT HIM THIS TIME!!!!!11elevnety

Posted by: Cave Johnson at December 21, 2023 01:25 PM (BQ4Sl)

377 Faux Nooz reporting that Xi told Biden, in their November meeting, that he wanted to take Taiwan, "peacefully if possible."

No reporting of course on Pervy Joe's reply to Xi
Posted by: Ex GOP at December 21, 2023 01:08 PM (qS8WV)

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Taiwan is a break away province according to 74 years of Communist Chinese policy. Ever hear of Quemoy and Matsu?

Communist China is now rich enough and has already taken over Hong Kong, and is pushing hard to control the Chinese Seas out to the 9Dash Line. Taiwan is the next major goal.

It's also a race for China. Will they take Taiwan, collapse economically, or collapse demographically first.

China wants Taiwan, but can they take it by force? Maybe, or maybe it will be a Ukraine disaster? The war will also collapse the world economy from a shortage of high power CPU, graphics and Memory chips.

China has way too much debt, and lots of corrupt state owned businesses.
China has too many old people and not enough young people. Ditto Japan, Korea, Europe and the USA.

Posted by: rd at December 21, 2023 01:25 PM (PlByJ)

378 181 Here's the Order, which gives a summary of why each name is being released or not released.

http://tinyurl.com/yfcb79mc
Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2023 12:35 PM (bLe0J)

Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 01:36 PM (x7m+Z)

379 Gates won an anonymous programming contest at Microsoft - beating thousands of programmers in the process.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 21, 2023 01:22 PM (CecP5)

Was he also the judge?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 21, 2023 01:39 PM (aD39U)

380 274 I was wrong: the 8 are not identified at all in the Order, nor any reason for non-disclosure. Those who are ordered not disclosed are mainly identffied as minor victims who haven't come forward, or in 2-3 cases, "classic outsiders."

The 8 - ???? No explanation.
Posted by: LASue at December 21, 2023 12:51 PM (Gq9/0)

Posted by: m at December 21, 2023 01:43 PM (x7m+Z)

381 What's funny, in a very dark sort of way, is only a very small percent of OnlyFans accounts make much money. When every girl is doing it, nobody's all that interested in most girls.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 21, 2023 12:32 PM (R38qh)

I'd also bet that a lot of the success stories are setups. A girl joins, OF thinks she looks like a winner, so they vector in some hits that net her, say 10000 the first week or so. Then she's hooked, and you can arrange to supply her with photographers, pimps who work under the table deals and meetups for real prostitution. You probably can get most of that 10000 back.

When she gets jaded, all of that vanishes and she's back to making 150 a month or something.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 01:52 PM (eoQWY)

382 I was watching another show where they had on an OF girl who claimed to be making $100K/month. They asked her what she wanted in a guy and her answer was someone making at least as much as her so she could "retire".

So they asked her what percentage of men make that much money. She guessed...5%. In fact it is less then .1%.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 21, 2023 01:09 PM (XqcwY)

Yeah the "Modern Female Delusion Calculator" is always fun, where they give their bare minimums and it reduces to .05 percent of men based on Federal statistics.

The other thing these shows stress is that pretty much all men will just rule out these sort of women for "wifing up". And the sort of men these women look for even more so. They have women coming to them all the time, they don't need to make any compromise on their standards.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 21, 2023 02:00 PM (eoQWY)

383 How can there be a John Doe 183 on a list of 177 names? Enquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at December 21, 2023 02:37 PM (b5mAA)

384 Alan, Andrew, Andrew, Bill, Bill, Hillary, Sergei, Terry,

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