More Than 75,000 People Left California Just This Year, Because Governor Newsom Is Doing Such a Good, Presidential-Level Job

This follows two years of losing a total of a half million residents.

Don't worry, though: Illegal aliens are helping to make up for the losses.

This year marked the fourth consecutive year of population loss for the Golden State. And although it's slowing from the previous two years, when California lost half a million residents, the federal estimates show that the exodus hasn't stopped. The state's projected net loss comes despite an uptick in foreign immigration that brought 126,000 people into California last year.

California has reached the point of diminishing returns in the socialist game of taking other people's money. The people with the money are fleeing for more hospitable states, and California will soon be begging the US government to tax its citizens and give that money to California.

The census analysis comes as California's Democratic leaders face a $68 billion deficit next year, exacerbated in part by high numbers of wealthy people leaving the state for lower taxes and cost of living. Government budget analysts have already warned that California will have to deal with $30 billion deficits for at least the three succeeding years.
"People are fleeing our state in droves," California GOP chairwoman Jessica Millan Patterson said in a statement regarding the latest projections. "While the red states [that Democratic governor Gavin] Newsom loves to hate continue to grow in population, California's sky-high cost of living, surging crime, homeless crisis, and failing schools aren't a very compelling case for why people should stay here."
While lower-income and middle-class Californians initially led the charge in fleeing the state's high cost of living, wealthy people are increasingly fleeing as well, the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California reported this year. More college graduates are leaving the state than entering, in a reversal of a longtime trend.
The loss of wealthy residents takes a particular toll on the state's finances, which depend on rich taxpayers. Last year, the top 1 percent of earners paid about 40 percent of California's income taxes.
The loss likely translates into diminished national political power as well. Following the 2020 census, California for the first time in its history lost a congressional seat. Analysts predict that in 2030, the state will lose up to five seats.

The LA Times, an organization which certainly knows who butters its bread, is alarmed at all the high-income Californians (read: the people whose parties they wish they were invited to) are fleeing the state, and taking their tax revenues with them.

Even though California has experienced lopsided out-migration for decades, the financial blow has been cushioned by the kinds of people moving into the state: The newcomers were generally better educated and earned more money than those who left.

Not now: That long-standing trend has reversed. New state-to-state migration data show that for the last several years, thousands more high-earning, well-educated workers have left California than have moved in.
The reversal, largely in response to the state's high taxes and soaring cost of living, has begun to damage California's overall economy. And, by cutting into tax revenues, has delivered punishing blows to state and local governments.

Who abducted the LA Times and forced them to admit that which they have always previously refused to admit?!!?

State budget analysts recently projected a record $68-billion deficit in the next fiscal year thanks to a 25% drop in personal income tax collection in 2023. Some city, county and other local taxing authorities, particularly in the San Francisco Bay Area, have also recorded revenue declines.
...
[R]ising unemployment in the state and the growing flight of professionals, business operators and others making good salaries were... notable contributors. And those factors will be harder to reverse, at least in the foreseeable future.
"There's a price to pay for the movement of middle and upper-income people and corporations," said Joel Kotkin, a fellow at Chapman University who has researched the flight from California and the resulting threat to the state's fiscal outlook. "People who are leaving are taking their tax dollars with them."
...
But it's not just the sheer numbers of people who have left. What's different is that in each of the prior two years, more than 250,000 Californians with at least a bachelor's degree moved out, while an average of 175,000 college graduates from other states settled in California, according to an analysis of census data by William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution.

In prior periods over the last two decades, that balance was about even or slightly in California's favor, even though the state consistently lost many more residents overall to other states than it gained from them. The recent out-migration has been particularly pronounced among Californians with graduate and professional degrees.
California is heavily dependent on high earners to meet government fiscal needs. Tax filers in the top 1% of income, earning around $1 million and above, have typically accounted for 40% to 45% of the state's total personal income tax revenue, said Brian Uhler, deputy legislative analyst at California's Legislative Analyst's Office, which estimated the $68-billion budget deficit.

The area of the country gaining the most in population is, as you'd guess, the south.

The vast majority of growth, 87%, came from the South, a region the Census Bureau defines as stretching from Texas to Maryland and Delaware. But the concentration of growth seen during the height of the pandemic in Texas, Florida, North Carolina and Georgia diminished in 2023.
"We peaked in the movement of people to those Sun Belt hotshots," Frey said. "It's tapering off a little bit."
South Carolina's 1.7% growth rate topped all other states, and its population rose by more than 90,000 residents. More than 90% of the growth came from domestic migration, or people moving from another U.S. state to South Carolina. Without domestic and international migration, the Palmetto State would have lost population in 2023 with almost 1,300 more deaths than births.
Florida had the next-highest growth rate at 1.6%, adding more than 365,000 residents. That was also the second-highest growth in terms of raw numbers. Only Texas surpassed it, gaining more than 473,000 people. More people moved to Florida than any other's U.S. state this year, with the almost 373,000 movers about evenly split between domestic and international. Significantly fewer residents died in Florida compared to last year, leading to a natural decrease of only around 7,600 people.

ABC "News," which reports this story, is totally stoked about all the immigration which is totally not replacing the native born population.

The number of immigrants to the U.S. jumped to the highest level in two decades this year, driving the nation's overall population growth, according to estimates released Tuesday by the U.S. Census Bureau.
The United States added 1.6 million people, more than two-thirds of which came from international migration, bringing the nation's population total to 334.9 million. It marks the second year in a row that immigration powered population gains.

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1 Others summoned.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 22, 2023 01:12 PM (qPw5n)

2
ESPONJA!!1!!11!!

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 22, 2023 01:13 PM (bEb2S)

3 Cali must build a wall to keep them in.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 22, 2023 01:13 PM (cOq4q)

4 Good afternoon all!!

Both sides of the family have arrived from Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. Time for the annual fights between my sister and brother. Yay

Posted by: jmel at December 22, 2023 01:13 PM (bVhJi)

5 California's loss != our gain. They're just bluing the rest of the nation.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:13 PM (MvF+J)

6 Illegal aliens are helping to make up for the losses.

Also, the census can "adjust" things if the numbers aren't to our liking. Government number people are very good at adjusting numbers.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:14 PM (zhLdt)

7 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2023 01:14 PM (T4tVD)

8 Losing Taxpayers and gaining Welfare Cases.

Bang up Job.

Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2023 01:14 PM (HSyGa)

9
Millionaires leave the state in droves to be replaced by illegal immigrants who will tax the bejesus out of the state Medicaid and welfare programs. Winning!

This is the kind of leadership needed in the Oval Orifice.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 22, 2023 01:14 PM (enJYY)

10 75,000 tax payers left and 750,000 tax leaches entered California.

Posted by: Archer at December 22, 2023 01:15 PM (gmo/4)

11 "Migration"
Nice neutral term for an all out invasion of illegal aliens.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 22, 2023 01:15 PM (cOq4q)

12 Good afternoon all!!

Both sides of the family have arrived from Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. Time for the annual fights between my sister and brother. Yay
Posted by: jmel at December 22, 2023 01:13 PM (bVhJi)

Your brother's name is Yay ?

Posted by: JT at December 22, 2023 01:15 PM (T4tVD)

13 >California's loss != our gain. They're just bluing the rest of the nation.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:13 PM (MvF+J)

For real

Posted by: The Rest of the West Coast States at December 22, 2023 01:16 PM (rVxRU)

14 75,000 is down from 250,000. Deflation!!

Posted by: Lies, damn lies, and statistics at December 22, 2023 01:16 PM (NBVIP)

15 Both sides of the family have arrived from Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. Time for the annual fights between my sister and brother. Yay

Posted by: jmel at December 22, 2023 01:13 PM (bVhJi)

It's the circle of life.

Posted by: Archer at December 22, 2023 01:16 PM (gmo/4)

16 I happy to say the wife and I are 2 of the 75k who escaped

Posted by: ditkaCA at December 22, 2023 01:16 PM (HQCVu)

17 Alternate Headline: Democrats Shocked to Discover Golden Goose has Wings

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 22, 2023 01:16 PM (aD39U)

18 maybe Cali can start taxing looted goods, a sort of non-sales tax.

Posted by: x at December 22, 2023 01:16 PM (C3l/P)

19 >Also, the census can "adjust" things if the numbers aren't to our liking. Government number people are very good at adjusting numbers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:14 PM (zhLdt)

Works for temperatures and ballot counts!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at December 22, 2023 01:17 PM (rVxRU)

20
ZORRO!

Posted by: Auspex at December 22, 2023 01:17 PM (6ZtAH)

21 "The United States added 1.6 million people, more than two-thirds of which came from international migration"

Brandon has brought in over 5 million illegals in under two years, maybe many more than that. I think they are not being counted ... until election time, then every (illegal) vote must count ... at least once, maybe multiple times.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2023 01:17 PM (Cus5s)

22 Emergency Ticket, selected at the Dem Convention, Harris/Newsom.

Posted by: davidt at December 22, 2023 01:17 PM (SYTee)

23
Both sides of the family have arrived from Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. Time for the annual fights between my sister and brother. Yay

Posted by: jmel at December 22, 2023 01:13 PM

I don't know who to put my money on, maybe Pennsylvania by a RCH.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 22, 2023 01:17 PM (enJYY)

24 While we're all worried about these people turning red states blue, I can say that the only new residents here are solid. My new next door neighbor is from Oregon, and hates the Dems.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2023 01:17 PM (1bNHn)

25 *Time for the annual fights between my sister and brother.*

But first The Airing Of Grievances!

Posted by: Frank Costanza at December 22, 2023 01:17 PM (NBVIP)

26 Can't wait to get out here.

Simple math:

LLC profit flows to the owner. 1M income from LLC is taxed at 13.3% ( individual rate) That's ~130K

If you're paying yourself cheaply at 200K, another ~27K in taxes to the state.

Are you getting 150K more benefits from the state than some place with no state income tax?

Yes, other states do get their share from other taxes. But the difference is still significant.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 22, 2023 01:18 PM (b8J4P)

27 Not sure I believe it. In SoCal they are building houses like there is no tomorrow ... freeway traffic is getting worse year by year.

Posted by: ET at December 22, 2023 01:18 PM (V7QeM)

28 Note:
Ace has the correct spelling of Newsom.
No e at the end of his name.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:18 PM (NpAcC)

29 Is a drove one of those electric cars? If so they won't get very far.

Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 22, 2023 01:19 PM (miT2W)

30 If this keeps up, California won't have enough soldiers to contribute to the great California - Texas confederation in the coming Civil War.

Posted by: Archer at December 22, 2023 01:19 PM (gmo/4)

31 >>Both sides of the family have arrived from Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. Time for the annual fights between my sister and brother. Yay

Drive them over to Gettysburg and let them settle it once and for all. Again.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:19 PM (ZLI7S)

32 People leaving California isn't a good thing. We should be encouraging anyone even slightly left of center to move to California, Washington, and Oregon. Let them entrench themselves in those shitholes, because they're instead moving to AZ, TX, MT and other places that would be solid red, and destroying them with their shitty socialist ideas

Posted by: Rbastid at December 22, 2023 01:19 PM (bTzep)

33 Ace has the correct spelling of Newsom.
No e at the end of his name.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:18 PM (NpAcC)

So he's gas powered?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:20 PM (zhLdt)

34 Isn't Greasy Gavin trying to make it illegal to flee?

Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 22, 2023 01:20 PM (miT2W)

35 When Newsome was Mayor of San Fran. It had a net loss population. Now that he is Governor, he again has a net loss of population.
If he becomes presidential the Democrat nominee. Where will the people move to?

Posted by: Picric at December 22, 2023 01:21 PM (13tTk)

36 I keep my siblings a respectable 3,000 miles away from me. Every year the wisdom of this choice becomes clear. We are on great terms, because of this.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 22, 2023 01:21 PM (hyS0X)

37 >> they're instead moving to AZ, TX, MT and other places that would be solid red

Montana was never even close to Deep Red. Not once.

Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2023 01:21 PM (HSyGa)

38 >>> When Newsome was Mayor of San Fran. It had a net loss population. Now that he is Governor, he again has a net loss of population.
If he becomes presidential the Democrat nominee. Where will the people move to?
Posted by: Picric

If they try to flee South we'll see a border wall build A.S.A.P.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 22, 2023 01:22 PM (cOq4q)

39 We've got 72 days until we leave MN for NC and fortunately 24 of those will be vacationing somewhere other than MN. We're pretty damn excited about all this

Posted by: jhawk90 at December 22, 2023 01:22 PM (rIfCf)

40
The Alcalde will just require the campesinos to work a little harder to keep that deficit under a hundred billion next year.

Posted by: Auspex at December 22, 2023 01:22 PM (6ZtAH)

41 >>Isn't Greasy Gavin trying to make it illegal to flee?

Not illegal. Just expensive.

Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2023 01:22 PM (HSyGa)

42 Ace, New York, and it's horse-faced governor in morticians makeup says, "hold my beer";

"New York’s population plunged more than any other state in the country over the past year, according to sobering new statistics – as fed-up lawmakers and ex-New Yorkers blame crime and the sky-high cost of living.

Almost 102,000 people fled the Empire State from July 2022 to July 2023, the United States Census Bureau revealed in a Tuesday report."

http://tinyurl.com/bdcu92rp

Posted by: Marcus T at December 22, 2023 01:23 PM (tU3dj)

43 Cut the fucking EBT.

That will stop a lot of FSA immigration, help reduce our out of control spending, force people to become more productive (need to work to eat, instead of fucking and popping out more kids), cause a major disruption in bullshit economic activity, create riots and unrest, and increase demand for popcorn.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 22, 2023 01:23 PM (ufFY8)

44 Newsom should just build a wall to keep them in.

Maybe call it the "I Rule" curtain ...

Next you'll be telling me that the California Franchise Tax Board is going to continue taxing all those who have fled to other states in perpetuity. Wait, wut?

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 22, 2023 01:23 PM (v+CGK)

45 Illegal aliens make up for the population loss, but take welfare and only pay sales taxes when they buy something. Sounds like a win for the fisc!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 22, 2023 01:24 PM (Angsy)

46 Afternoon.

I posted this link yesterday.

Just The News: California to lose four congressional seats after 2030 Census, TX and FL to gain, experts predict

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdfrn7

Posted by: Robert at December 22, 2023 01:25 PM (RGqBX)

47 The Balkanization of the country is well underway.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 22, 2023 01:25 PM (Q4IgG)

48 Newsom should just build a wall to keep them in.
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 22, 2023 01:23 PM (v+CGK)

Unnecessary. Once they replace all the petroleum vehicles with electric no one will be able to reach the border.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:25 PM (zhLdt)

49 The Big Picture: California is the most populous state in the US, with 39 million people. It has nearly a third more people than the next-largest state (Texas).

Zoom In: A minor population decline, while meaningful, is not important in terms of the state's political position. The margins are so great that reallocation of electoral power is a distant risk (not until the census in 2030) even in the unlikely event that the electoral map changes.

Why it Matters: the population shift has a stronger probability of a "bluing" in the destination states than a "reddening." The state electoral shifts to come will result in a net increase in general Democrat electoral power, far offsetting any declines from California's specific electoral power.

Between the Lines: California is an electoral and policy reservoir, and a reallocation of its population among various "red states" results in improving conditions for overall progressive expansion, despite any potential localized economic downsides or even fiscal crises within California.

Posted by: Axios says the quiet part out loud at December 22, 2023 01:25 PM (zxP/x)

50 Next you'll be telling me that the California Franchise Tax Board is going to continue taxing all those who have fled to other states in perpetuity. Wait, wut?
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 22, 2023 01:23 PM (v+CGK)
________________

I don't know if you're kidding, but they've made noises about doing just that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 01:25 PM (BpI5R)

51 Montana was never even close to Deep Red. Not once.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2023 01:21 PM (HSyGa)

*Hubert Humphrey has entered the chat*

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 22, 2023 01:25 PM (ufFY8)

52
Isn't Greasy Gavin trying to make it illegal to flee?
////
Not illegal. Just expensive.

Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2023 01:22 PM

My daughter and son-in-law had some 'exit tax' out of New Jersey that he balked at paying. The Feds snatched it out of his bank account. The time to get out of CA might be now before it becomes legalized and 89,000 new IRS workers take orifice.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 22, 2023 01:25 PM (enJYY)

53 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)

54 Illegal aliens make up for the population loss, but take welfare and only pay sales taxes when they buy something. Sounds like a win for the fisc!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 22, 2023 01:24 PM (Angsy)

Buy something. That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:26 PM (zhLdt)

55 more than two-thirds of which came from international migration

[snort] "international migration"

Notice "immigration" is not mentioned. You know, the legal migration. Central and South America, plus the ME that snuck in that way.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 22, 2023 01:26 PM (Rbu5d)

56 New state-to-state migration data show that for the last several years, thousands more high-earning, well-educated workers have left California than have moved in.
The reversal, largely in response to the state's high taxes and soaring cost of living, has begun to damage California's overall economy. And, by cutting into tax revenues, has delivered punishing blows to state and local governments.
++++
Just wait until the stock market declines in a meaningful way and the tax receipts associated with stock returns decline. Goodbye, budget.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:26 PM (zxP/x)

57 California's Dems will no doubt try to implement a scheme where if you simply sell anything in the state then all of your employees have to pay an income tax to California, regardless of what state they're located in.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 22, 2023 01:26 PM (dZVON)

58 Is Sioux County Iowa heaven on earth? If so, how much longer will it last?
http://tinyurl.com/2uyyzzrm

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:26 PM (MvF+J)

59 Didn't Cali institute a fine if you move out of the state?

Seems that didn't work out too well.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)

60 5 California's loss != our gain. They're just bluing the rest of the nation.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:13 PM (MvF+J)

Case in point: Colorado.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 22, 2023 01:27 PM (Rbu5d)

61 Newsom is such a slick liar that he could pee on your leg, tell you it's raining and you'd believe him.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:27 PM (NpAcC)

62 Remember Miss Lindsey got asked one time about cracking down on immigration and he said 'Well, people better start having babies!'

Good to see you helping there, Princess.

But it was also revealing as far as the mindset.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:27 PM (di6C2)

63
Gavin newsom is in until 2027 if he wants to stay. I wonder if he could be replaced by a conservative latino at this point

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at December 22, 2023 01:27 PM (n7rxJ)

64 Between the Lines: California is an electoral and policy reservoir, and a reallocation of its population among various "red states" results in improving conditions for overall progressive expansion, despite any potential localized economic downsides or even fiscal crises within California.
Posted by: Axios says the quiet part out loud at December 22, 2023 01:25 PM (zxP/x)

Translation: Leftism is a virus.

Posted by: Robert at December 22, 2023 01:27 PM (RGqBX)

65 How funny would it be if Fool Otto were actually Ace letting off steam about Trump?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM (jbnUc)

66 61 Newsom is such a slick liar that he could pee on your leg, tell you it's raining and you'd believe him.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:27 PM (NpAcC)

Why is it warm?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM (di6C2)

67 >>> Almost 102,000 people fled the Empire State from July 2022 to July 2023, the United States Census Bureau revealed in a Tuesday report."

Headed south on I-95.
Somebody needs to get the word out that Florida sucks. Meatball DeathSantis won't even let them teach kids the world of opportunity that sucking cock opens up for them. Permitless concealed carry. Massive shootouts in the streets in everytown daily. And it gets really fricken hot AND humid in the summer... which lasts from February to December!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM (cOq4q)

68 Immigration Powered Population Gains sounds like a translation of a Chinese protein drink

Posted by: JCG at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM (TDTKI)

69 The vast majority of growth, 87%, came from the South, a region the Census Bureau defines as stretching from Texas to Maryland and Delaware. But the concentration of growth seen during the height of the pandemic in Texas, Florida, North Carolina and Georgia diminished in 2023.
"We peaked in the movement of people to those Sun Belt hotshots," Frey said. "It's tapering off a little bit."
++++
But don't worry if you're in South Carolina or Tennessee, you're next.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM (zxP/x)

70 Just wait until the stock market declines in a meaningful way and the tax receipts associated with stock returns decline. Goodbye, budget.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:26 PM (zxP/x)

We are about to implement a new rule that, in addition to paying taxes on unrealized gains, you are required to report losses as gains. -- the IRS

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM (zhLdt)

71 Between the Lines: California is ~~an electoral and policy reservoir~~ a tumor, and ~~a reallocation of its population among~~ metastasis to various "red states" results in improving conditions for overall progressive expansion of the primary tumor, despite any potential localized economic downsides or even fiscal crises within California.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM (BpI5R)

72 Illegal aliens make up for the population loss, but take welfare and only pay sales taxes when they buy something. Sounds like a win for the fisc!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 22, 2023 01:24 PM (Angsy)

That's just it. One doesn't have to buy anything in CA. Just go into a store, take what is wanted, and then walk out.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (BdMk6)

73 >>Newsom is such a slick liar that he could pee on your leg, tell you it's raining and you'd believe him.

I thought he was unbelievably bad in that debate with DeSantis. He came off as a completely dishonest sleazeball. I think that debate crushed any chance Democrats had of replacing Joe with him.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)

74 Newsom should just build a wall to keep them in.
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 22, 2023 01:23 PM (v+CGK)

Unnecessary. Once they replace all the petroleum vehicles with electric no one will be able to reach the border.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

But the pioneers walked across the frozen mountains and burning deserts.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (cOq4q)

75 Newsom is such a slick liar that he could pee on your leg, tell you it's raining and you'd believe him.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:27 PM (NpAcC)

Tucker Carlson had some interesting things to say about Newsom.

He said it's very rare to run across a person who could fool a lie detector easily because they have no remorse or conscience. Newsom is better than Biden at lying. That's saying something.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

76 Send ALL the illegal scum to California and then let Mexico annex it but we build a wall on the way out and they can never enter

Maybe the earthquakes will help us get some ocean views back

Posted by: Gonzotx at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (MwHgU)

77 Why is it warm?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 20
****
Global warming

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:30 PM (NpAcC)

78 Just wait until the stock market declines in a meaningful way and the tax receipts associated with stock returns decline. Goodbye, budget.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:26 PM (zxP/x)

What budget? There has been no acknowledgement of the budget as even a theoretical, whore's bath-in passing kind of thing for around... 30 years?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:30 PM (di6C2)

79
Fortunately, Don Diego and his shemale friends will continue the affluent life along the California coast, sniffing fragrances and enjoying the soft linens from Spain.

Posted by: Auspex at December 22, 2023 01:30 PM (6ZtAH)

80 Native-born Americans have had net outmigration from California for thirty years - what's new is that rich people are now fleeing, along with the middle class.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 22, 2023 01:30 PM (YAtuc)

81 74 Newsom should just build a wall to keep them in.
Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 22, 2023 01:23 PM (v+CGK)

Unnecessary. Once they replace all the petroleum vehicles with electric no one will be able to reach the border.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

But the pioneers walked across the frozen mountains and burning deserts.

That’s when the world had real men

Posted by: Gonzotx at December 22, 2023 01:31 PM (MwHgU)

82 How funny would it be if Fool Otto were actually Ace letting off steam about Trump?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM (jbnUc)

I haven't noticed Ace being particularly reticent with his opinions w.r.t. to the Republican primary candidates.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:31 PM (zhLdt)

83 I'm not trying to be contrarian or pessimistic, but I see these CA is Dying stories the same way I see Disney is Dying, Hollywood is Dying, American Cities are Dying stories. They're always dying but never end up dead exactly. We'll see.

Posted by: mostly dead is slightly alive at December 22, 2023 01:31 PM (ttzpt)

84 I'm constantly told it's the conservatives that are fleeing California.

Texas will soon find out if that's true.

Texas is the fastest growing state in the country.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

85
I happy to say the wife and I are 2 of the 75k who escaped

Posted by: ditkaCA

===============

Out of curiosity where'd you go?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at December 22, 2023 01:31 PM (n7rxJ)

86 He said it's very rare to run across a person who could fool a lie detector easily because they have no remorse or conscience.

Not so rare. Any psychopath can manage that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 22, 2023 01:31 PM (YAtuc)

87 I thought he was unbelievably bad in that debate with DeSantis. He came off as a completely dishonest sleazeball. I think that debate crushed any chance Democrats had of replacing Joe with him.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)
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He did poorly. That does not disqualify him. His whiteness and maleness are much bigger problems. If the Party is going to try the 'ole switcharoo with Biden, my money remains on Whitmer. They might blame it on his debate performance, but that doesn't matter. Most people didn't see it and those who did have short memories and even if they don't, the vote for the person the Party instructs them.

Newsom's problems have to do with his identity markers, not his policies or his competence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:31 PM (zxP/x)

88 One really dumb thing we did (but sounded like a good idea) was getting rid of the SALT deduction.

We thought it was great that we were taking away a blue state tax deduction, but I think it led to an exodus of high tax states and into the red/purple states.

Even liberals don't like high taxes (on themselves anyway).

Posted by: Blago at December 22, 2023 01:32 PM (wMRY8)

89 What budget? There has been no acknowledgement of the budget as even a theoretical, whore's bath-in passing kind of thing for around... 30 years?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:30 PM (di6C2)
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California's budget, not the non-existent Federal budget.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:32 PM (zxP/x)

90
But the pioneers walked across the frozen mountains and burning deserts.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Death Valley Days

Posted by: The Old Ranger at December 22, 2023 01:32 PM (63Dwl)

91 Greasy G says California is the freest state in the Union. How does he define freedom?

Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 22, 2023 01:33 PM (miT2W)

92 So why do I suggest legal things that the Communist thugs in robes are going to ignore?

Its for future historians. So that when Push comes to Shove, and people argue that we over reacted, we'll be able to point to the record and say:"No we didn't, we tried to operate inside the system, they richly deserved everything they got."

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 22, 2023 01:33 PM (CecP5)

93 Newsom is such a slick liar that he could pee on your leg, tell you it's raining and you'd believe him.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:27 PM (NpAcC)

Why is it warm?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM (di6C2)

Global warming, silly.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

94 Gavin newsom is in until 2027 if he wants to stay. I wonder if he could be replaced by a conservative latino at this point
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at December 22, 2023 01:27 PM (n7rxJ)
____________

We need a black woman as governor to really f*ck things up.

Karen Bass, twerk on down!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 01:33 PM (YqDXo)

95 I thought he was unbelievably bad in that debate with DeSantis. He came off as a completely dishonest sleazeball.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)

You're mistaken. You were amazed at his command of the issues and moved by his obvious concern for "people like you". Also, you need another box of wine.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:34 PM (zhLdt)

96
How funny would it be if Fool Otto were actually Ace letting off steam about Trump?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM

Magic 8 ball: Concentrate and ask again

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 22, 2023 01:34 PM (enJYY)

97 91
Freedom. You know. Our precious democracy.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 22, 2023 01:34 PM (jbnUc)

98 Tucker Carlson had some interesting things to say about Newsom.

He said it's very rare to run across a person who could fool a lie detector easily because they have no remorse or conscience. Newsom is better than Biden at lying. That's saying something.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)
********
Tucker is absolutely correct. I have watched a bunch of interviews of him and I have never seen someone lie a smoothly as he does.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:34 PM (NpAcC)

99 They're always dying but never end up dead exactly. We'll see.
Posted by: mostly dead is slightly alive at December 22, 2023 01:31 PM (ttzpt)

It will happen slowly, then all at once.

Re

isney, the trades, like Variety, are starting to notice and report on the obvious, things WDW Pro and Valliant Renegade have been saying for months.

The same will happen for the others. Like the economy and general stock market.

Sad!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 22, 2023 01:34 PM (ufFY8)

100 But the pioneers walked across the frozen mountains and burning deserts.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (cOq4q)

The pioneers didn't need to worry about uploading an update to their OnlyFans account.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:35 PM (zhLdt)

101 How does he define freedom?

The government is free to sodomize the populace any way it chooses.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 22, 2023 01:35 PM (CecP5)

102 How funny would it be if Fool Otto were actually Ace letting off steam about Trump?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 22, 2023 01:28 PM
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He isn't. He's been around a while and as far as I know, isn't a troll. He dislikes Trump but that doesn't make him a troll.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:35 PM (zxP/x)

103 ++++
He isn't. He's been around a while and as far as I know, isn't a troll. He dislikes Trump but that doesn't make him a troll.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:35 PM (zxP/x)

No, it's his comments that do that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

104 But the pioneers walked across the frozen mountains and burning deserts.

That’s when the world had real men

Posted by: Gonzotx at December 22, 2023 01:31 PM (MwHgU)

Something I think about when driving in even just Kentucky: all these hills must have sucked.

-but then think about west texas between Dallas and El Paso. That is a LOOOOOONG stretch of flat nothing.

-think about the wagon trains coming out of the plains and then seeing the mountains. YAY! Their horses must have hated them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:36 PM (di6C2)

105 It's time for the 2024 Space Laser challenge!

Find a prominent politician who is willing to denounce antisemitism without immediately adding a denunciation of "Islamophobia"!

The rule is that you can denounce "Islamophobia" by itself, but you can't denounce antisemitism without immediately adding "Islamophobia".

After all, Muslim Ivy League students are cowering in their dorm rooms, just like the Jewish students.

Not.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 22, 2023 01:36 PM (YAtuc)

106 Death Valley Days
Posted by: The Old Ranger at December 22, 2023 01:32 PM (63Dwl)

Death Valley Nights >> Death Valley Days

Posted by: Blue Oyster Cult at December 22, 2023 01:36 PM (ufFY8)

107 Global warming, silly.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)
*****
See 77
Horde mind.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:36 PM (NpAcC)

108 86 Lie detectors are primarily to stress the subject being questioned, rather than to mechanically detect lies. Then, after the test, the examiner sez "well lookie here, you lied," and then observes the reactions as he teases out even more talking from the subject.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:37 PM (MvF+J)

109 *****
See 77
Horde mind.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:36 PM (NpAcC)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)

110 Death Valley Days - Brought to you by 20 Mule Team Borax

Posted by: Archer at December 22, 2023 01:37 PM (gmo/4)

111 Taking their Socialism with them

Posted by: Skip at December 22, 2023 01:37 PM (fwDg9)

112 Greasy G says California is the freest state in the Union. How does he define freedom?
Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 22, 2023 01:33 PM (miT2W)

Unlimited access to drugs. Free camping.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 22, 2023 01:37 PM (BdMk6)

113 Tucker is absolutely correct. I have watched a bunch of interviews of him and I have never seen someone lie a smoothly as he does.
Posted by: redridinghood

Is it really a lie if you believe it?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 22, 2023 01:37 PM (cOq4q)

114 Greasy G says California is the freest state in the Union. How does he define freedom?
Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 22, 2023 01:33 PM (miT2W)

If straight, white, and Christian... you are free to do as you're told.

Everyone else... we have a lot of laws but it's not like we're going to enforce them on you.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:37 PM (zhLdt)

115 Lie detectors are primarily to stress the subject being questioned, rather than to mechanically detect lies. Then, after the test, the examiner sez "well lookie here, you lied," and then observes the reactions as he teases out even more talking from the subject.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:37 PM (MvF+J)
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And their entirely subjective nature are why they're not admissible in court.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:37 PM (zxP/x)

116 Now this is how you troll.

@ULTRA_MAJESTY

This is from the Atlanta Journal.

Single Black female seeks male companionship, ethnicity not important. I'm very good looking; I love to play, I love long walks in the woods, riding in your pickup truck, hunting, camping, fishing trips, cozy winter nights lying by the fire, and candlelight dinners that will have me eating out of your hand. When you get home from work, I will be at the front door wearing only what nature gave me. Call 404 555 1212 and ask for Daisy.

Over 1,500 men found themselves talking to the Atlanta humane society about an 8-week-old black Labrador retriever.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (ZLI7S)

117 Fool Otto and Blago don't bother me. I'm willing to listen to arguments against my positions.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (MvF+J)

118 The pioneers didn't need to worry about uploading an update to their OnlyFans account.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:35 PM (zhLdt)

I was trying to explain to someone born after 2000 how WONDERFUL it was to be able to hop in your car and be completely cut off from someone trying to nag the hell out of you. Or anyone. Blessed silence.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (di6C2)

119 >>He isn't. He's been around a while and as far as I know, isn't a troll. He dislikes Trump but that doesn't make him a troll.

His Trolling makes him a Troll.

He may only Troll the Trump Threads.

But, his comments therein are cut and paste Trolling.

Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (HSyGa)

120 Over 1,500 men found themselves talking to the Atlanta humane society about an 8-week-old black Labrador retriever.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (ZLI7S)
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LOL.

It's gonna be sad when "activists" burn down the animal shelter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:39 PM (zxP/x)

121 Fool Otto and Blago don't bother me. I'm willing to listen to arguments against my positions.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (MvF+J)

There's a difference between arguing and bludgeoning.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:39 PM (Zz0t1)

122 Silicon Valley still supplies a lot of revenue ... maybe they will start to seek lower tax states as well.

And yeah, stocks can't be allowed to crash. Not just due to the capital gains taxes, but how many pension funds are counting on stocks always going up?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2023 01:39 PM (Cus5s)

123 Over 1,500 men found themselves talking to the Atlanta humane society about an 8-week-old black Labrador retriever.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (ZLI7S)

...

I hope they did not let any of these guys adopt her...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:40 PM (di6C2)

124 And yeah, stocks can't be allowed to crash. Not just due to the capital gains taxes, but how many pension funds are counting on stocks always going up?
Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2023 01:39 PM (Cus5s)
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As near as I can tell, "all of them."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:40 PM (zxP/x)

125 And their entirely subjective nature are why they're not admissible in court.

I've had the misfortunate of frequently interacting with two psychopaths - one professionally, and one personally.

They were both superb liars - they would both lie for the hell of it, because lying and getting away with it is fun.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 22, 2023 01:40 PM (YAtuc)

126 Fool Otto and Blago don't bother me. I'm willing to listen to arguments against my positions.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (MvF+J)
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They are very passionate about arguing *against* Trump, but they have yet to put forth any compelling case for how and why their preferred candidate will be able to beat FJB in a general election if their candidate cannot beat Trump in the primaries.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 22, 2023 01:40 PM (7fElN)

127 No one I know with a jet still lives in California.

Posted by: scottst at December 22, 2023 01:40 PM (ojBxe)

128 ---
They are very passionate about arguing *against* Trump, but they have yet to put forth any compelling case for how and why their preferred candidate will be able to beat FJB in a general election if their candidate cannot beat Trump in the primaries.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 22, 2023 01:40 PM (7fElN)

But Trump can't win anything because he's unpopular and people are sick of him.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)

129 117 Fool Otto and Blago don't bother me. I'm willing to listen to arguments against my positions.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (MvF+J)

This. Plus, I am not emotionally invested enough in Trump to actually be offended on his behalf.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:41 PM (di6C2)

130 They are pulling the ventilator off of Geezer Eric.

The good thing is Big Tit Donna and Nice Bod Brooke are there.

LOL

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 22, 2023 01:41 PM (ufFY8)

131 Streaming service Pluto now has a channel for car chases.

According to it California has 10,000 car chases a year.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 22, 2023 01:42 PM (09uT1)

132
Talking out of my hat as usual, but some stricter executive moves in DC could choke a few changes out of Cali. Trump cut off funds for that disastrous Train to Nowhere, which Biden recently reinstated. Newsom was quick to flash his veneers and reclaim his status as the leader of cutting-edge mass transportation. I'd like to see it clawed back.

Federal policy could withhold all kinds of money for education, infrastructure, energy, whatever Cali relies on using a few restrictions related to DEI and child mutilation. Whoever's got the guts...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at December 22, 2023 01:42 PM (n7rxJ)

133 They are pulling the ventilator off of Geezer Eric. ...
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 22, 2023 01:41 PM (ufFY

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Ah, so his agent and the production company failed to negotiate a new contract. Pity.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:42 PM (zxP/x)

134 Streaming service Pluto now has a channel for car chases.

According to it California has 10,000 car chases a year.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 22, 2023 01:42 PM (09uT1)

They need to do like Dallas, Tx and outlaw police pursuits.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

135 I left two years ago, my sister last year, liquidating all our financial interests in the State before departing. We were born and raised in SoCal.

The house we grew up in sold for $1.3mil, so there are still people with money who want to live there.

Posted by: Halfhand at December 22, 2023 01:43 PM (o5xaO)

136 One really dumb thing we did (but sounded like a good idea) was getting rid of the SALT deduction.

I don't know if it was politically smart or not but, it was just.

I shouldn't have to pay your taxes.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 22, 2023 01:43 PM (aD39U)

137 Is Jimmy Carter still alive?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 22, 2023 01:43 PM (09uT1)

138 128 ---
They are very passionate about arguing *against* Trump, but they have yet to put forth any compelling case for how and why their preferred candidate will be able to beat FJB in a general election if their candidate cannot beat Trump in the primaries.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 22, 2023 01:40 PM (7fElN)

But Trump can't win anything because he's unpopular and people are sick of him.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)

Yeah it's that line of "reasoning" that makes it come across as trollish. They'll argue that the issue is a decline of in-party support, but we clearly observed that in-party support was more muted in 2016 than 2020. It's less an argument and more just about how they feel.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 22, 2023 01:44 PM (eYoxG)

139 One really dumb thing we did (but sounded like a good idea) was getting rid of the SALT deduction.

Oh Hell No !!! Absolutely No !!!

The SALT deduction lets you deduct your state tax from your federal tax. It is an absolute positive incentive for all those states - starting at New Jersey and New York and extending right up through Maine - to build their little damn socialist paradises on the backs of the South and Midwest.

Get this North East residents ... you don't "pay" for the rest of the country. The rest of the damn country pays for you. No different than how we, as Americans, pay for the defense of Europe.

The SALT deduction is a damn abomination. It absolutely floats the North East as well as Southern California. It is, as Milton Friedman would have said, a negative incentive.

You want to send 20% of your income to all these collective projects ? Then do it. And pay your damn Federal income taxes.

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 01:44 PM (j5+kd)

140 According to it California has 10,000 car chases a year.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 22, 2023 01:42 PM (09uT1)

Midsomer County in rural England has 156 murders annually.

Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 22, 2023 01:44 PM (miT2W)

141 Just how emotionally invested in any of our candidates are we, really?? And why??

Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2023 01:44 PM (PCK5/)

142 Is Jimmy Carter still alive?
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 22, 2023 01:43 PM (09uT1)

Hell doesn't want him.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)

143 Talking out of my hat as usual, but some stricter executive moves in DC could choke a few changes out of Cali. Trump cut off funds for that disastrous Train to Nowhere, which Biden recently reinstated. Newsom was quick to flash his veneers and reclaim his status as the leader of cutting-edge mass transportation. I'd like to see it clawed back. ...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at December 22, 2023 01:42 PM (n7rxJ)
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Never forget that the contractor for that project was a state-owned rail company from France that had lots of experience in high-speed rail. That contractor eventually walked away in disgust, citing political dysfunction and corruption so extreme that they couldn't deal with it and expect to a railroad built.

The company ditched the project to go work in a more salubrious environment with less dysfunction and corruption: Morocco.

No, I'm not kidding.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:44 PM (zxP/x)

144 Alberta Oil Peon: Any luck figuring out what part of the desktop computer has gone south?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 22, 2023 01:44 PM (qPw5n)

145 *sings*

The south will rise again...

*sings*

Huh, what?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:45 PM (5xURv)

146 Ah, so his agent and the production company failed to negotiate a new contract. Pity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:42 PM (zxP/x)

It's a soap opera, you think taking someone on life support is the end?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:45 PM (di6C2)

147 Go long on taco trucks.

Posted by: wth at December 22, 2023 01:45 PM (v0R5T)

148 Ah, so his agent and the production company failed to negotiate a new contract. Pity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:42 PM (zxP/x)

Nah, he is breathing.
His contract goes on for a few more years.
The dude has been in this role from the start, more than 40 years. (John McCook?)

Perhaps only Eric Braden ("the apes must die!) has been around longer as Victor Newman.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 22, 2023 01:45 PM (ufFY8)

149 We need a black woman as governor to really f*ck things up.

Karen Bass, twerk on down!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 01:33 PM (YqDXo)

When Bobby O'Rourke ran for Governor most recently I suggested that his campaign slogan should be: Beto For Governor - Because Things Aren't As Fucked Up As They Could Be

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:45 PM (zhLdt)

150 A black Labrador isn't a bad addition

Posted by: Skip at December 22, 2023 01:45 PM (AXIFo)

151 I voted with my feet: SE Pa to south Florida. No regerts

Posted by: Ex GOP at December 22, 2023 01:45 PM (qS8WV)

152 But Trump can't win anything because he's unpopular and people are sick of him.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)

Basically Nikki Haley's entire campaign strategy.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:46 PM (5xURv)

153 Nah, he is breathing.
His contract goes on for a few more years.
The dude has been in this role from the start, more than 40 years. (John McCook?) ...
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 22, 2023 01:45 PM (ufFY

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Ah, I see. I assumed this was one of those "negotiation comas."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:46 PM (zxP/x)

154 The house we grew up in sold for $1.3mil, so there are still people with money who want to live there.
Posted by: Halfhand at December 22, 2023 01:43 PM (o5xaO)

Hee hee. We don't "live" there.

Posted by: REITs at December 22, 2023 01:46 PM (Angsy)

155 144 He said he got it to boot from a Linux USB stick, which is progress.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:46 PM (MvF+J)

156 141 Just how emotionally invested in any of our candidates are we, really?? And why??
Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2023 01:44 PM (PCK5/)

I'm still emotionally invested in Reagan. He was special to me. I came along at just the right age. It's not rational and I can still admit a lot of mistakes, but it does not tarnish him in my eyes (see: emotionally invested.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:46 PM (di6C2)

157 Basically Nikki Haley's entire campaign strategy.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:46 PM (5xURv)
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Nah, she also has a shit ton of YouTube ads that contain zero substance but lots of active-voice language.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:47 PM (zxP/x)

158 Single Black female seeks male companionship, ethnicity not important. I'm very good looking; I love to play, I love long walks in the woods, riding in your pickup truck, hunting, camping, fishing trips, cozy winter nights lying by the fire, and candlelight dinners that will have me eating out of your hand. When you get home from work, I will be at the front door wearing only what nature gave me. Call 404 555 1212 and ask for Daisy.

Over 1,500 men found themselves talking to the Atlanta humane society about an 8-week-old black Labrador retriever.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:38 PM (ZLI7S)

LOL. I bet it's been adopted already.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 22, 2023 01:47 PM (BdMk6)

159 ++++
Nah, she also has a shit ton of YouTube ads that contain zero substance but lots of active-voice language.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:47 PM (zxP/x)

I'm still waiting for my "Underestimate Me" t-shirt to come in the mail.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

160
I voted with my feet: SE Pa to south Florida. No regerts

Posted by: Ex GOP at December 22, 2023 01:45 PM

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to find a medication to deal with your acid reflux?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 22, 2023 01:47 PM (enJYY)

161 an uptick in foreign immigration that brought 126,000 people into California last year.

The lawns are sure going to look nice.

Posted by: wth at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (v0R5T)

162 >>Just how emotionally invested in any of our candidates are we, really?? And why??

I'm emotionally invested in winning, getting shit I want done and fucking up the left.

Trump is the only one who ticks the boxes for me. Ron has done a fine job in FL but he is clearly not ready for prime time.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (ZLI7S)

163 Nah, she also has a shit ton of YouTube ads that contain zero substance but lots of active-voice language.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:47 PM (zxP/x)

Everything I've seen says the same stupid shit.

'Trump! Gotta love. We know you do. But it's time to move on to someone who can win!'

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (5xURv)

164 For what it's worth, here are the moves I know about from the last few years in my 18-unit townhouse complex in suburban Massachusetts:

1. One middle-aged couple moved to Maine. Sold to middle-aged man from MA.
2. One younger family moved to Texas. Sold to investor, being rented to young family from MA.
3. One middle-aged woman moved to another town in MA. Sold to middle-aged couple from MA.
4. One younger family moved to another town in MA. Sold to couple who moved back from Florida (taking care of parent) and are originally from MA.
5. One older couple moved to New Hampshire. Sold to young family from New Jersey.
6. One single middle-aged woman is in the process of moving to South Carolina.

If and when we move, it'll probably be North Carolina.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (qUkBO)

165 98 Tucker Carlson had some interesting things to say about Newsom.

He said it's very rare to run across a person who could fool a lie detector easily because they have no remorse or conscience. Newsom is better than Biden at lying. That's saying something.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)
********
Tucker is absolutely correct. I have watched a bunch of interviews of him and I have never seen someone lie a smoothly as he does.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:34 PM (NpAcC)

Pikers!

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (53oGX)

166 I'm still waiting for my "Underestimate Me" t-shirt to come in the mail.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)
++++
This made me think of this, for no reason other a similar two-word construction.

Angelfish - Suffocate Me:
https://youtu.be/cO-YCm4GXw8

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:49 PM (zxP/x)

167
Trump is the only one who ticks the boxes for me. Ron has done a fine job in FL but he is clearly not ready for prime time.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (ZLI7S)

He should've sat back, vied for a job in the Trump Administration, learned the force and ran in 28.

He f*cked himself royally.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

168 I don't know if it was politically smart or not but, it was just.

I shouldn't have to pay your taxes.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
___

Agreed, in principle, would say zero tax deduction for state and local taxes.

But if something just means Democrats get more control, maybe a different path?

I would just have made the tax cuts bigger across the board instead.

The other thing is, there is such thing as a Republican being trapped in a blue state. Some conservatives watched their taxes go up, not down as they lost a huge write off.

But people do move over taxes, it happens all the time.

We might not want to cheer on a CA exodus.

Posted by: Blago at December 22, 2023 01:49 PM (wMRY8)

169 I can't leave CA until my 92 year old Mom passes. I'm the only one in the family who hasn't bailed already.

Posted by: wth at December 22, 2023 01:49 PM (v0R5T)

170 I'm still waiting for my "Underestimate Me" t-shirt to come in the mail.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

It's a weird catch phrase. I am just saying. You are essentially screaming that not only do you have a giant chip on your shoulder, but also that you lack self confidence (hence, chip.) It is an odd look to TRY to go for.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:50 PM (di6C2)

171 Illegal aliens are helping to make up for the losses.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Because welfare for all those illegals will totally make up for all the over a million earners leaving a shi*hole State.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 22, 2023 01:50 PM (BGBMh)

172
But it's not just the sheer numbers of people who have left. What's different is that in each of the prior two years, more than 250,000 Californians with at least a bachelor's degree moved out, while an average of 175,000 college graduates from other states settled in California, according to an analysis of census data by William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution.

The quiet part is that the vast majority of those PhD degrees are in "Studies" subjects, and therefore they don't earn squat. To the point where they can't even pay back their student loans.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 22, 2023 01:50 PM (n+4am)

173 This made me think of this, for no reason other a similar two-word construction.

Angelfish - Suffocate Me:
https://youtu.be/cO-YCm4GXw8
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:49 PM (zxP/x)

I'll allow it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

174 I'm still emotionally invested in Reagan. He was special to me. I came along at just the right age. It's not rational and I can still admit a lot of mistakes, but it does not tarnish him in my eyes (see: emotionally invested.)

Meh ... a lot of Russians were seriously emotionally invested in Stalin as well.

This idea of men, in a supposedly free country aspiring to be your boss, and yet you still throw flowers and their feet and say
"thank you for taking my money to be my master" ?

I think "free", as a word, means something different to me than most. If Reagan were still alive, I'd tell him "yeah, thanks. For admitting the first million illegals. And signing EMTALA to open the door for socialized medicine. And that first Trillion of debt. Yeah bud, thanks a ton."

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 01:50 PM (j5+kd)

175 Yep, mass migration only hurts the areas where people leave. Just like 'vaccine' - aka killer shots - mandates cause the smartest people to leave the profession and institutions.

Cali was a wonderful state in the 80's... Same with Coloraydo. Lefties are scum that ruin everything they touch.

Posted by: Danimal28 at December 22, 2023 01:51 PM (ryUqI)

176 News on and pals have dealt a fatal blow to the goose that lays golden eggs, and now the rapacious criminal/immigrant/ homeless masses are now feeding off its dying body.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 22, 2023 01:51 PM (LkllE)

177 I'm the only one in the family who hasn't bailed already.
Posted by: wth

The opposite of musical chairs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 22, 2023 01:51 PM (BGBMh)

178 It's a weird catch phrase. I am just saying. You are essentially screaming that not only do you have a giant chip on your shoulder, but also that you lack self confidence (hence, chip.) It is an odd look to TRY to go for.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:50 PM (di6C2)

All I hear is 'I've got a vagina, therefore I'm held back but grrrrrrrrl power is gonna break that glass ceiling!'

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:51 PM (5xURv)

179 Beto for Governor: puedo empañar un espejo

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2023 01:51 PM (D7oie)

180 All I hear is 'I've got a vagina, therefore I'm held back but grrrrrrrrl power is gonna break that glass ceiling!'
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:51 PM (5xURv)
++++
LOL.

You broke the code.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:51 PM (zxP/x)

181 Ah, I see. I assumed this was one of those "negotiation comas."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:46 PM (zxP/x)

No. I think he just needed a storyline.
He was sick with some vague illness, prepared to die, collapsed, then a mysterious experimental procedure appeared, and Libbity-Bibbity Finn suddenly was a surgeon who performed the 'procedure'. He died on the table, got revived, then was on a ventilator in a coma. His son Worf Forehead Ridge was hell bent on pulling the plug, so they just did. Now he breathes!

Fucking stupidly hilarious.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (ufFY8)

182 My main emotional investment these days is my personal survival, and that's tepid enthusiasm at best.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (MvF+J)

183 Tucker is absolutely correct. I have watched a bunch of interviews of him and I have never seen someone lie a smoothly as he does.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 22, 2023 01:34 PM (NpAcC)

Pikers!
Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (53oGX)

Ah, my children have learned well!

Posted by: Father of Lies at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (Angsy)

184 This slender, chilly brunette in a dress has no regrets after leaving California:
https://is.gd/6nuMHM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (zxP/x)

185 All I hear is 'I've got a vagina, therefore I'm held back but grrrrrrrrl power is gonna break that glass ceiling!'
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:51 PM (5xURv)

If you plan to break a glass ceiling with your vagina, I suggest working on those Kegels.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (D7oie)

186 The lawns are sure going to look nice.
Posted by: wth

Especially with the *new* water laws!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (BGBMh)

187 Agreed, in principle, would say zero tax deduction for state and local taxes.

But if something just means Democrats get more control, maybe a different path?

If the cost of "winning" is continuing to pay for the North East Socialist Paradise ?

Show me what's behind Door #3 Monty. Maybe flip the board. Play a new game.

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (j5+kd)

188 He f*cked himself royally.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

I don't think so. He has mostly stayed away from the silly shit. If his only failing is in coming up short, well that is not a death sentence.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (di6C2)

189

But the WEATHER!

Posted by: California at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (63Dwl)

190 https://is.gd/6nuMHM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (zxP/x)

Water must be cold.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

191
Karen Bass, twerk on down!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

=============

Lol twerk on down.

I was thinking about her too. It will be funny if straight white male george gascon gets the idea it's his turn in the same year she does.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at December 22, 2023 01:53 PM (n7rxJ)

192 184 This slender, chilly brunette in a dress has no regrets after leaving California:
https://is.gd/6nuMHM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (zxP/x)

You are Saint, good sir. 10/10.

Would wife.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:53 PM (5xURv)

193 This slender, chilly brunette in a dress has no regrets after leaving California:
https://is.gd/6nuMHM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (zxP/x)

Nips like ripe strawberries I bet.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 22, 2023 01:53 PM (aD39U)

194
I don't think so. He has mostly stayed away from the silly shit. If his only failing is in coming up short, well that is not a death sentence.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (di6C2)

He made himself irrelevant. I think that's not going to advance his career in politics very much.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

195 If you plan to break a glass ceiling with your vagina, I suggest working on those Kegels.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (D7oie)

I saw a stripper once in New Orleans...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:54 PM (di6C2)

196 I saw Chilly Brunette open for Blonde at the Rosemont Horizon in '84.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

197 Trump is the only one who ticks the boxes for me. Ron has done a fine job in FL but he is clearly not ready for prime time.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (ZLI7S)

I prefer Trump but I'm not emotionally invested in anyone political. My objection to the "argument" comments is when they rehash, repeatedly, that Trump didn't do any of the things that Congress prevented him from doing and then suggest that CandidateX would have better results.

It's disingenuous and stupidly so. You can play the fool if you want but don't try to make me out to be one.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:55 PM (zhLdt)

198 I think the number of people moving to a state is more relevant than the percentage. I think the percentage matters when talking about leaving a State.

Posted by: Drive by at December 22, 2023 01:55 PM (MNhXM)

199 Yeah, but what the immigration legal or illegal?

We can’t depend on the statist mouthpieces to make the distinction, because to them, there is no distinction.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 22, 2023 01:55 PM (Q9bls)

200 The Final Freedom is Voting With Your Feet.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 22, 2023 01:56 PM (Q9bls)

201 194

He made himself irrelevant. I think that's not going to advance his career in politics very much.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

I am wondering just how invested he is in the whole matter…

Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2023 01:56 PM (PCK5/)

202 >>I saw a stripper once in New Orleans...

I saw a very visibly pregnant stripper working the pole in New Orleans. Some things you can never unsee.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:56 PM (ZLI7S)

203 It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees.

Posted by: That Old Italian Pimp at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (aD39U)

204 *Blondie

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

205 I think the number of people moving to a state is more relevant than the percentage. I think the percentage matters when talking about leaving a State.
Posted by: Drive by at December 22, 2023 01:55 PM (MNhXM)
++++
Proportion is more important either way. If too many people - as a percentage of the total - move in, that's how you lose your culture. You get colonized. Even if they don't colonize you with the commie disease, your culture that you might have liked or been accustomed to will still shift.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (zxP/x)

206 This slender, chilly brunette in a dress has no regrets after leaving California:
https://is.gd/6nuMHM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
.......

That duck is waiting for a big updraft.

Posted by: wth at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (v0R5T)

207 200 The Final Freedom is Voting With Your Feet.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 22, 2023 01:56 PM (Q9bls

For now.

The ideas to stop this now exist.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (5xURv)

208 I don't think so. He has mostly stayed away from the silly shit. If his only failing is in coming up short, well that is not a death sentence.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (di6C2)

Lifts for the win!

Posted by: These Boots are Made for at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (Angsy)

209
I am wondering just how invested he is in the whole matter…
Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2023 01:56 PM (PCK5/)

I'm starting to think he's regretting taking the money from some donors......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

210 Afternoon Ace. Here in mid Hudson we are getting a huge influx of people from NYC as well as illegals. I've had hundreds of friends and acquaintances move South. Don't worry Hordians of the South most are conservative. The in comers have turned this place crazy left including the the fact that my state assembly woman is a Dem Socialist

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (NcL9g)

211 He made himself irrelevant. I think that's not going to advance his career in politics very much.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

But I don't think it hurts him as much as you think. Cruz arguably hurt himself during the last election (and even more arguably since.) Desantis, at least so far, is handling it fairly well, just hard to catch fire.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (di6C2)

212 Trump is the only one who ticks the boxes for me. Ron has done a fine job in FL but he is clearly not ready for prime time.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (ZLI7S)

I voted Trump twice. Yet, his complete cluster fuck of a response starting the day after election day, 2020, had me ready to ignore whatever happened to him after.

Yet again, the entire ham-handed response to him will have me casting yet another vote, in what I believe to be yet another rigged election. Simply out of spite.

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (j5+kd)

213 If the cost of "winning" is continuing to pay for the North East Socialist Paradise ?

Show me what's behind Door #3 Monty. Maybe flip the board. Play a new game.
Posted by: 1s and 0s

___

What's the goal? I look at a tax cut as just that, DC getting less of my money.

If losing a different deduction means blue states have an exodus and in turn flip red and purple states, blue, what did we really win?

Has any blue state lowered their taxes in response? Not to my knowledge.

Posted by: Blago at December 22, 2023 01:58 PM (wMRY8)

214 I think "free", as a word, means something different to me than most. If Reagan were still alive, I'd tell him "yeah, thanks. For admitting the first million illegals. And signing EMTALA to open the door for socialized medicine. And that first Trillion of debt. Yeah bud, thanks a ton."
Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 01:50 PM (j5+kd)

I see. It is not that you dislike Reagan, it is that you hate that he was not a despot with dictatorial powers.
You know which current elected politician of a democracy has dictatorial powers?

Justin Trudeau.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2023 01:58 PM (D7oie)

215 I saw a very visibly pregnant stripper working the pole in New Orleans. Some things you can never unsee.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:56 PM (ZLI7S)

When the kid is waving at the audience, maybe it's time to go to the hospital.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:58 PM (di6C2)

216 202 >>I saw a stripper once in New Orleans...

I saw a very visibly pregnant stripper working the pole in New Orleans. Some things you can never unsee.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:56 PM (ZLI7S

I've seen that girl myself. Usually that was my queue to leave because the societal commentary was too judgmental to take while listening to Motley Crue

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 01:59 PM (5xURv)

217 "Just The News: California to lose four congressional seats after 2030 Census, TX and FL to gain, experts predict"

One of the scandals of 2020, the Year of Scandals, was the Census Bureau delaying the census results until after Biden took office, then releasing results which had blue states keeping 3 or 4 more seats than previously expected, followed by an Inspector General report which concluded that "mistakes were made" in that the population of about seven states (almost all blue) were overcounted while the population of about seven states (all or almost all red) were undercounted. So 3 or 4 seats stolen for a decade, and the Grand Old Pussies never say a damned word about it.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 22, 2023 01:59 PM (qUkBO)

218 But the WEATHER!
Posted by: California at December 22, 2023 01:52 PM (63Dwl)
........

Surfea arriba!

Posted by: wth at December 22, 2023 01:59 PM (v0R5T)

219 they rehash, repeatedly, that Trump didn't do any of the things that Congress prevented him from doing and then suggest that CandidateX would have better results.

It's disingenuous and stupidly so. You can play the fool if you want but don't try to make me out to be one.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:55 PM (zhL

I think it’s just as stupid to give credit to Trump for all the good things he did but claim his hands were tied for all the bad things.

Posted by: Drive by at December 22, 2023 01:59 PM (MNhXM)

220 I saw Chilly Brunette open for Blonde at the Rosemont Horizon in '84.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

Wasn't Chilly Brunette a western sidekick for some singing cowboy?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 22, 2023 01:59 PM (Angsy)

221 https://images.app.goo.gl/pg1tyS5QYGuNr4287

On Your Feet Or On Your Knees

Posted by: Blue Oyster Cult at December 22, 2023 02:00 PM (ufFY8)

222 Yet CALPERS has never predicted a rate of return on their pension plan investments of less than 6%.

A regular rate of return, if they ever actually delivered, would get the executives 7 figure jobs on Wall Street.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 22, 2023 02:00 PM (TzW+Y)

223 I saw a very visibly pregnant stripper working the pole in New Orleans. Some things you can never unsee.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:56 PM (ZLI7S)

I saw a stripper with a pretty significant hemorrhoid on a stage somewhere in Ohio once.

Horrifying.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

224 Tucker Carlson had some interesting things to say about Newsom.

He said it's very rare to run across a person who could fool a lie detector easily because they have no remorse or conscience. Newsom is better than Biden at lying. That's saying something.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)
______________

Used car dealers shake their heads in awe.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 02:00 PM (YqDXo)

225 He made himself irrelevant. I think that's not going to advance his career in politics very much.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

I think he hurt himself most by planning on bailing on the job he was elected to do. Not a good look.

Probably not a fatal blow, depends on who's in the race in 2028 (assuming we're permitted to have one) and what they've done in the interim.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 02:00 PM (zhLdt)

226 What's the goal? I look at a tax cut as just that, DC getting less of my money.

If losing a different deduction means blue states have an exodus and in turn flip red and purple states, blue, what did we really win?

There is no logic to paying the Danegeld in order to keep the Dane from moving to your shores anyway.

If we're just voting, at the end of the day, to somehow move the deck-chairs in a big game of "who votes to who else's pockets" ? Then fuck it - let it all fall.

That's not complicated. Stop trying to make it complicated.

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:00 PM (j5+kd)

227 I saw a stripper with a pretty significant hemorrhoid on a stage somewhere in Ohio once.

Horrifying.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

Are we talking Ace Ventura level?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 02:01 PM (di6C2)

228 10 straight years of population loss in Illinois.
Only 32.8 K this year due to "New Arrivals"

Posted by: Lars at December 22, 2023 02:01 PM (kJH1Z)

229 That duck is waiting for a big updraft.
Posted by: wth at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (v0R5T)

I confess that I had not seen the duck the first time I looked.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 02:01 PM (zhLdt)

230
I saw a stripper with a pretty significant hemorrhoid on a stage somewhere in Ohio once.

Horrifying.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 02:00 PM (Zz0t1

Dude. I just ate lunch.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 02:01 PM (5xURv)

231 California's Democratic leaders face a $68 billion deficit next year, exacerbated in part by high numbers of wealthy people leaving the state for lower taxes and cost of living.
________________

How's that "soaking the rich" working out for ya?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 02:01 PM (YqDXo)

232 214 Yeah, EMTALA was a mistake.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 02:02 PM (MvF+J)

233
I can't leave CA until my 92 year old Mom passes. I'm the only one in the family who hasn't bailed already.
Posted by: wth

=============

I'm in a similar position. Pray tell, where did the rest of your family bail to?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at December 22, 2023 02:02 PM (n7rxJ)

234
Are we talking Ace Ventura level?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 02:01 PM (di6C2)

Lets just say it was visible from 30 ft.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)

235
Dude. I just ate lunch.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 22, 2023 02:01 PM (5xURv)

I didn't start the conversation. It's not my fault.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

236
Pikers!
Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (53oGX)

Bubba was actually a shitty liar. It's just that Donk commie cocksuckers didn't CARE if he lied. Commies give their own kind a pass. Always.

Us conservatives spent too much time and energy trying to fight against the lies, while not understanding that truth simply doesn't matter to commies.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 22, 2023 02:03 PM (n+4am)

237
Pennsylvania has had a problem with 'brain drain' as in graduates of its colleges leave the state to settle elsewhere for decades. Both my son and daughter graduated first rate PA colleges and then left the state.

The situation in CA comes to mind as they may now be in the same boat. Better, greener pastures are in the center of the country right now, neither the east or west coast.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 22, 2023 02:03 PM (enJYY)

238 Stripper with hemorrhoids is probably a pron category on some site. And I ain't looking

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 22, 2023 02:03 PM (NcL9g)

239 I saw a very visibly pregnant stripper working the pole in New Orleans. Some things you can never unsee.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:56 PM (ZLI7S

Ugh. Me too. In Myrtle Beach.
She had bewbs as big as her skull, hard as silicone stones.

Some dudes (not me, honest!) were into that.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 22, 2023 02:03 PM (ufFY8)

240 ‘They California ain’t the place you want to be
So we loaded up the truck and we moved to Tennessee. Tunes, Music Row.’

Posted by: Eromero at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (ol4hq)

241 219 they rehash, repeatedly, that Trump didn't do any of the things that Congress prevented him from doing and then suggest that CandidateX would have better results.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:55 PM (zhL

I think it’s just as stupid to give credit to Trump for all the good things he did but claim his hands were tied for all the bad things.
Posted by: Drive by at December 22, 2023 01:59 PM (MNhXM)

In giving credit or blame, it is reasonable to assess how achievable a thing is, and importantly in comparison, whether others would even try to achieve that goal at all.

One of Trump's strongest points is his broad-based offensive. Yes, alternative candidates likely would've done a subset of the things he did, but likely they also wouldn't have pursued nearly as much.

Aside from budget deficits, where he likely could've gotten better results than occurred, most of the stuff he was stymied on there doesn't seem to be an obvious path to victory. If an alternative candidate would be able to do so, it's incumbent to point out how'd they would.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (eYoxG)

242 I see. It is not that you dislike Reagan, it is that you hate that he was not a despot with dictatorial powers.

Again, just like Trump - the Reagan Lovers really seem to like the good, yet all the bad ? Not his fault.

Either take the credit AND the blame ? Or take nothing. Where, exactly, does the buck stop ?

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (j5+kd)

243 Stripper with hemorrhoids is probably a pron category on some site. And I ain't looking
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 22, 2023 02:03 PM (NcL9g)

I saw a movie once where a fly kept buzzing the woman's sphincter.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

244 I think it’s just as stupid to give credit to Trump for all the good things he did but claim his hands were tied for all the bad things.
Posted by: Drive by at December 22, 2023 01:59 PM (MNhXM)

I shoot for an honest evaluation but, as I said, I'm not that emotionally invested in a person who has never lived in my house.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (zhLdt)

245 This slender, chilly brunette in a dress has no regrets after leaving California:
https://is.gd/6nuMHM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Very nice and natural. No botox or silicone.

Yes. Most definitely.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (BdMk6)

246 But I don't think it hurts him as much as you think. Cruz arguably hurt himself during the last election (and even more arguably since.) Desantis, at least so far, is handling it fairly well, just hard to catch fire.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:57 PM (di6C2)

Yeah Cruz is just too conservative, too smart, not in any one’s pocket and voted against certifying the election. He must be destroyed because he didn’t bend the knee to Trump.

Posted by: Drive by at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (MNhXM)

247 238 Stripper with hemorrhoids is probably a pron category on some site. And I ain't looking
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 22, 2023 02:03 PM (NcL9g)

You can get those veins stripped.... (wheels within wheels)

Posted by: m at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (x7m+Z)

248 Apropos of nothing, there sure are a lot of Glock 19 clones and frames out there. Have any of you Morons bought any (PSA, Poly80, Combat Arms etc)?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 22, 2023 02:05 PM (aD39U)

249 This slender, chilly brunette in a dress has no regrets after leaving California:
https://is.gd/6nuMHM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (

Is that a member of the Robertson family lurking on the far shore?

Posted by: That Northernlurker embracing the suckd at December 22, 2023 02:06 PM (miT2W)

250 I'm always glad that our new home state is never mentioned in these stories. Because we're full. No more room.

(Except we'll make exceptions for Morons.)

Posted by: Emmie at December 22, 2023 02:06 PM (Sf2cq)

251 He must be destroyed because he didn’t bend the knee to Trump.
Posted by: Drive by at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (MNhXM)

That's not why. It's more the all hat and no cattle area he roams around in.

That and he voted for giving medals to the capitol police for their actions on Jan 6th.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)

252 I'm emotionally invested in winning, getting shit I want done and fucking up the left.

Trump is the only one who ticks the boxes for me. Ron has done a fine job in FL but he is clearly not ready for prime time.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 22, 2023 01:48 PM (ZLI7S)
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That's where I am, too, on all counts. Trump, for all his faults, is the only one gnarly enough and smart enough to take it to the Reds.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 02:06 PM (KXV4L)

253 Again, just like Trump - the Reagan Lovers really seem to like the good, yet all the bad ? Not his fault.

Either take the credit AND the blame ? Or take nothing. Where, exactly, does the buck stop ?
Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (j5+kd)

sing O Canada louder, man, the truckers are going to jail still

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2023 02:07 PM (D7oie)

254 Border crossers are marching not just two by two but two thousand by two thousand by the day. Hey, you need masses when you are trying to replace the populace you don't like who don't want to vote for you.

Democrats know what will happen if Trump wins the election, he will deport the illegals just like Eisenhower did in the 50s. Therefore, can't have him win at any cost.

Posted by: Decaf at December 22, 2023 02:07 PM (3JfbU)

255 They said California ain’t the place you want to be, so we loaded up the truck and moved to Tennessee. Tunes. Music Row.

Posted by: Eromero at December 22, 2023 02:07 PM (ol4hq)

256 "if Trump wins the election, he will deport the illegals"

I doubt that.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 02:08 PM (MvF+J)

257 "if Trump wins the election, he will deport the illegals"

I doubt that.
Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at December 22, 2023 02:08 PM (MvF+J)

It's one of his campaign promises, so we'll see.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)

258 Saw something the other day explaining that people were moving out of California due to climate change. To Texas and Florida. Go figger.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 22, 2023 02:09 PM (pwGMM)

259 Either take the credit AND the blame ? Or take nothing. Where, exactly, does the buck stop ?
Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (j5+kd)

Unless the President can walk into any office in DC, gun in hand, and shoot the person occupying it... and, to be clear, they can't... then nuance is required.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 02:09 PM (zhLdt)

260
Have any of you Morons bought any (PSA, Poly80, Combat Arms etc)?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 22, 2023 02:05 PM (aD39U)

Have a Poly80 frame and all the parts, but haven't started the project yet. Work keeps intruding. Not to mention the stupid CA laws about serialization.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 22, 2023 02:10 PM (n+4am)

261 That's where I am, too, on all counts. Trump, for all his faults, is the only one gnarly enough and smart enough to take it to the Reds.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 02:06 PM (KXV4L)

I really don't think he is. I think he'll do the same thing this time he did the last time. Tweet a lot. Chase off like my own damn dog against the next shiny object. Probably fuck up one thing for every two he gets right. Get played by whomever strokes his massive, Ron Jeremy / Peter North sized ego.

And yet, even that, will be better than the latest shit show. Because at least he'll play to the crowd with some notion of what he see's as best for America.

It's not that Trump is that good. He's not. It's that the latest parade of fucks has been that damn bad.

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:10 PM (j5+kd)

262 This slender, chilly brunette in a dress has no regrets after leaving California:
https://is.gd/6nuMHM

I used to feel the same way, now I regret not meeting her before I bailed out. Never mind that she wouldn't have been born yet.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 22, 2023 02:10 PM (dZVON)

263 This is cheap

Combat Armory CA19 Pistol with Polymer Sights - Compatible With Gen 3 Glock® 19 Parts

$219.99

https://bityl.co/N9zp

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 22, 2023 02:11 PM (aD39U)

264 What, no pretty-boy picture of the Grewsom on the post?

Posted by: m at December 22, 2023 02:11 PM (x7m+Z)

265 The United States added 1.6 million people, more than two-thirds of which came from international migration ...

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With four times as many got-aways, that's 8 million Blessings of Liberty!

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 22, 2023 02:11 PM (K0xzC)

266 Have any of you Morons bought any (PSA, Poly80, Combat Arms etc)?

I think MAE is the guy you're looking for.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 22, 2023 02:11 PM (pwGMM)

267 6 Illegal aliens are helping to make up for the losses.

Also, the census can "adjust" things if the numbers aren't to our liking. Government number people are very good at adjusting numbers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:14 PM (zhLdt)

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With the swamp creatures in every department and agency who knows the actual numbers. Let's just assume that they count the population like they counted the 2020 election votes.

Posted by: Decaf at December 22, 2023 02:11 PM (3JfbU)

268 Unless the President can walk into any office in DC, gun in hand, and shoot the person occupying it... and, to be clear, they can't... then nuance is required.

Nope - nope. Let's stop. No nuance is ever required when anyone here wants to give credit to Trump ... or anyone else.

Either take all the credit and blame, or none. Or sound like the typical Lib that wants to do the same for Obama or Biden or anyone before them.

Either he's the fucking guy in charge, or he ain't. Pure and simple.

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (j5+kd)

269 https://is.gd/6nuMHM

Leda and the swan, baby!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (5LztK)

270 It's not that Trump is that good. He's not. It's that the latest parade of fucks has been that damn bad.
Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:10 PM (j5+kd)

So, what you're saying is Trump sucks... but everyone else sucks more? Or do you have a special person who would totally fix everything if only they were given a chance?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (zhLdt)

271 A 1.7% uptick won't turn SawClina blue. Not even over a few years.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (p0oYG)

272 Now, of course if you want to watch Javier Milei's speech on his executive order, this is not so much a speech, as a second declaration of independence

http://tinyurl.com/2p8dwru6

(rumble, with subtitles, and only five minutes of the 15 minute speech)

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (D7oie)

273 NOOD

The Head of a Gaza Hospital Admits to Being a Hamas Commander and Using Hospital As Terror Base

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (qPw5n)

274 Everyone does suck pretty bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (di6C2)

275 Illegal aliens are helping to make up for the losses.
_________________

Losses in population, not the losses in revenue. They're net takers, not makers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 02:13 PM (KXV4L)

276 "Migration"
Nice neutral term for an all out invasion of illegal aliens.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 22, 2023 01:15 PM (cOq4q)

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It's not an invasion when the powers that be are importing them. It's a replacement action. They just don't know yet how to get rid of the citizens whom they don't like.

Posted by: Decaf at December 22, 2023 02:14 PM (3JfbU)

277 Either he's the fucking guy in charge, or he ain't. Pure and simple.
Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (j5+kd)
_________________

You understand the basis of our government is checks and balances, right? Nobody is in charge in the sense you are urging.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 22, 2023 02:14 PM (KXV4L)

278 Also, the census can "adjust" things if the numbers aren't to our liking. Government number people are very good at adjusting numbers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 22, 2023 01:14 PM (zhLdt)
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With the swamp creatures in every department and agency who knows the actual numbers. Let's just assume that they count the population like they counted the 2020 election votes.
Posted by: Decaf at December 22, 2023 02:11 PM (3JfbU)

They adjusted the numbers last time to cheat red states out of electors and pad the blue states so they wouldn't lose electors.

Posted by: Emmie at December 22, 2023 02:15 PM (Sf2cq)

279
Yet CALPERS has never predicted a rate of return on their pension plan investments of less than 6%.

A regular rate of return, if they ever actually delivered, would get the executives 7 figure jobs on Wall Street.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator

After Pope Francis took over he did something with the Pension Plans of American Catholic lay workers. As my wife worked for the Diocese of Philadelphia I saw the financial reports. They were investing in Italian barber shops or some craziness in Italy and her pension moved up something like .005% in value after the first year. Something like seven dollars in total.

We obviously should have hung in there longer but I said, 'Get out! Now!" which she did. The folks at Vanguard, who were somehow involved with the plan, did not put up an ounce of resistance.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 22, 2023 02:16 PM (enJYY)

280 Either he's the fucking guy in charge, or he ain't. Pure and simple.
Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (j5+kd)

the difference between an absolute dictatorship and a democracy is not the forms of government or the transfer of power, it is solely the number of people you have to keep happy to remain in power.

You seem to hope for a dictator with dictatorial power, and you seem to believe such a system would give a rat's ass what your opinions are.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2023 02:16 PM (D7oie)

281 So, what you're saying is Trump sucks... but everyone else sucks more? Or do you have a special person who would totally fix everything if only they were given a chance?

I have literally given you several posts about why Trump sucks ... I wouldn't let him in my home or at my dinner table ... yet he is the best of a very, very bad lot.

What do you want ? Does it take some special feeling or something within you to simply accept "Trump is an arrogant, egotistical fool - yet the best Nationalist option against a tyrannical Federal government" ?

Do you, personally, feel the need to emotionally drip in a Peggy Noonan manner to cast a vote for someone ?

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:16 PM (j5+kd)

282 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 22, 2023 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

283 You seem to hope for a dictator with dictatorial power, and you seem to believe such a system would give a rat's ass what your opinions are.

Give the lessons all you want. If you want to give Trump credit for being in charge ? Then give him the blame for being in charge.

It's not hard. It's a very, very simple concept. Either the buck stops with him, or it does not.

Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:18 PM (j5+kd)

284 This slender, chilly brunette in a dress has no regrets after leaving California:

https://is.gd/6nuMHM

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Men used to literally kill each other over things like that.

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 22, 2023 02:21 PM (K0xzC)

285 They've i.d.ed the Prague shooter:

Prague shooting latest: Student David Kozak named as gunman who left 14 dead in Charles University attack

Posted by: m at December 22, 2023 02:30 PM (x7m+Z)

286 This may be why the Three Amigos (CA, IL and NY) are so anxious, desperate to re-elect the Dems.

Bailout!

Posted by: PJ at December 22, 2023 03:05 PM (G1dq6)

287 285
That boy canceled some Czechs.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 22, 2023 03:11 PM (jbnUc)

288 Governor Newsom sounds like a Brezhnev era apparatchik giving the party line (h/t, Lord Hannan).

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 22, 2023 03:58 PM (Q9bls)

289 272: the jury is still very much out. I am hoping for the best, but we shall see.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 22, 2023 04:00 PM (Q9bls)

290 What budget? There has been no acknowledgement of the budget as even a theoretical, whore's bath-in passing kind of thing for around... 30 years?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 22, 2023 01:30 PM (di6C2)
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California's budget, not the non-existent Federal budget.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2023 01:32 PM (zxP/x)

yes, so you have to change the big number a little. CA has a balanced budget constitution so it is illegal to run a deficit. Now, I don't know what games they play to pretend they are balanced, but they haven't been since probably Arnold was Governor.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 22, 2023 04:24 PM (eoQWY)

291 Either he's the fucking guy in charge, or he ain't. Pure and simple.
Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:12 PM (j5+kd)

the difference between an absolute dictatorship and a democracy is not the forms of government or the transfer of power, it is solely the number of people you have to keep happy to remain in power.

You seem to hope for a dictator with dictatorial power, and you seem to believe such a system would give a rat's ass what your opinions are.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 22, 2023 02:16 PM (D7oie)

Even the most absolutist of absolute dictators have court politics, constituencies they need to appease and satisfy to remain in power, and limits on what they can do. Those who go beyond end up dying in their sleep, strangled in a bath, unseated by a coup, something like that.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 22, 2023 04:27 PM (eoQWY)

292 Saw something the other day explaining that people were moving out of California due to climate change. To Texas and Florida. Go figger.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 22, 2023 02:09 PM (pwGMM)

Climate change is nonsense, but if someone did move based of climate that might make sense. CA has cool to cold offshore currents that could make things chilly if they dropped in temperature. Florida is next to the warm Gulf Stream, and a spur goes Texas-ward.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 22, 2023 04:32 PM (eoQWY)

293 I see. It is not that you dislike Reagan, it is that you hate that he was not a despot with dictatorial powers.

Again, just like Trump - the Reagan Lovers really seem to like the good, yet all the bad ? Not his fault.

Either take the credit AND the blame ? Or take nothing. Where, exactly, does the buck stop ?
Posted by: 1s and 0s at December 22, 2023 02:04 PM (j5+kd)

Most people have an adult view of the world and its complexities and don't make impossible requirements on things some 40 years in the past.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 22, 2023 04:34 PM (eoQWY)

294 The Beveryhill Billies have left California for good and the Driesdales and Miss are Hathaway going with them

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