First-World Problems...

Looks like a normal burner! But...and this is sort of a big deal with burners...it doesn't ignite. The gas flows, but the electric starter has stopped working. And because of the brilliant cost-saving design of the KitchenAid corporation, the starter and wiring harness goes to all five burners, and the individual starters can't be replaced.

But it gets better! My excellent appliance repair guy tells me that the replacement parts are crap. Odds are that if he buys a set they will not work! The stove is considered old...12 years is now old in our modern economy!

Well sh*t...I've gone and done it; I crossed the Rubicon of serious posts! This small issue is reflective of a changing economy that counts on ever decreasing manufacturing costs to make products that were once repairable into throw-away commodities. But that begs the question; How are we to afford the total cost, which is soaring because of inflation?

My guess is that if the Biden Economy continues to improve as much as the Junta wants us to believe, we will be returning to an economy that is much more focused on repair and longevity, because we simply will not be able to afford anything else.

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM

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1 1ith

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 02:01 PM (fwDg9)

2 Top 10?

Posted by: Barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at December 31, 2023 02:02 PM (hBG3V)

3 Can you light it with a match?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2023 02:02 PM (63Dwl)

4 Grill lighter will keep it going for a good long time so long as the gas flows to it.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 31, 2023 02:02 PM (3cGpq)

5 I remember 1st house lived in as a kid always had long matches to light gas stove.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 02:02 PM (fwDg9)

6 There is the "Right to Repair" movement...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 31, 2023 02:02 PM (ynpvh)

7 Good luck replacing your gas stove without running afoul of Brandon's new 'no gas stoves' rules!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 02:03 PM (0zai3)

8 Stares at box of kitchen matches on shelf.

Posted by: CBD's Wife at December 31, 2023 02:03 PM (iODuv)

9 can you use a match to light them?

Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 02:03 PM (A5THL)

10 There is the "Right to Repair" movement...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

You have the right to repair it, it's just that the repairs will not last.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 02:03 PM (0zai3)

11 Now I am curious as to when electric ignition became the norm for gas stovetops.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 31, 2023 02:04 PM (3cGpq)

12 Use a long reach lighter. Or hack in a good igniter to the assembly.

Posted by: jj at December 31, 2023 02:04 PM (mbTrm)

13 We used to use electricity to light our stoves now we're so enlightened and modern we're going to use matches!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 02:04 PM (0zai3)

14 can you use a match to light them?
Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 02:03 PM (A5THL)

Shhhh....don't give these youngin's any ideas.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at December 31, 2023 02:05 PM (iODuv)

15 My furnace has a motherboard more complex than that of my fastest desktop PC. If there's even a trace of moisture on the floor, it gets sucked up, condenses on the MB, and a $450 repair bill ensues. Has happened twice so far.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at December 31, 2023 02:05 PM (MvF+J)

16 On my last refrigerator, the compressor gave out, but the entire cost of replacing the compressor was almost the cost of the new fridge.
Yeah, bought a new one. So Good for the Environment, right Lefties?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 31, 2023 02:05 PM (ynpvh)

17 I've got the burner in the middle that is double and can accommodate a full size grill pan...and it doesn't ignite.

when I redo my kitchen I'm going to downsize the range, get a 24 inch stove, and that will eliminate that middle burner that taunts me with its intransigence.

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:06 PM (YXbRL)

18 The stovetop in my horse trailer LQ has always needed to be lit externally. I hang on to the grill starters after they are out of fluid because usually just the spark is sufficient to light the propane burner.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 31, 2023 02:06 PM (3cGpq)

19 Light it with your acetylene torch. Easy Peasy. Might need goggles.

Posted by: Zombie Firefighter Bryce at December 31, 2023 02:06 PM (V5BDR)

20 Not to worry, your bug burgers and soylent paste will heat up nicely in your state-mandated solar-powered toaster oven. They'll have long since turned off the gas.

Posted by: 15 minutes into the future at December 31, 2023 02:07 PM (pjs7m)

21 EV recharging stations: not enough of them. When you find one, the lines are long. By the time it's your turn to charge, the charging station is out of order. When you look up availability on your app, the app gives you outdated or inaccurate information. Then it's rinse and repeat or look for a motel and hope for the best.

Posted by: mrp

A friend works at the reservation desk of a hotel chain. He got an irate call from a guest because the hotel at which he was staying had no recharging station and he couldn't leave until he recharged. (And also because it is a well known fact that reservation clerks rule time, space, the universe, and everything.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 02:07 PM (FVME7)

22 Plasma lighters are cool.

http://tinyurl.com/4d7svzwj

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 02:07 PM (NBVIP)

23 From downstairs
San Franpsycho maybe moving to Cuba will be a sure fire intervention to open her eyes

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 02:08 PM (cL4jw)

24 Nice range, bro.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 31, 2023 02:08 PM (RIvkX)

25 15 My furnace has a motherboard more complex than that of my fastest desktop PC. If there's even a trace of moisture on the floor, it gets sucked up, condenses on the MB, and a $450 repair bill ensues. Has happened twice so far.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at December 31, 2023 02:05 PM (MvF+J)

Poor design. Very poor design. How hard would it be to have heaters pre-warm the air to the MB so that the air temp was above condensation? Yeah, uses more power, not as cool as "fresh" air coming in.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 31, 2023 02:08 PM (ynpvh)

26 Hmm. I'd go with cutting the wires and splicing in a new starter.

Posted by: Tom at December 31, 2023 02:08 PM (ZvGil)

27 Some time ago, I sent my Omega Seamaster to the official repair facility because it was running slow- like up to 20 seconds a day.

I got it back not long ago. Now it runs fast, something like 4-5 seconds over 24 hours. I can't catch a break.

However, I'd rather have a watch that runs a little fast than one that runs excessively slow.

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 02:08 PM (geLO8)

28 to everyone asking CBD if he can use a match...read his post where he says: 'the gas flows but the burner doesn't ignite"

I'm in the same situation. I can sit there with a lit match or a grill igniter and die from gas asphyxiation while I wait for the burner to ignite!

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:09 PM (YXbRL)

29 I have 4 solar deck lights. One either has a dicked up solar panel, charging gear or a bad battery. I'm on day 3 of trying to figure out which it is.

But the weather won't cooperate. One day it's sunny... good. Next no sun... bad. Next day sun in the morning, rain in the afternoon.

I'm pretty sure it's not the battery. Maybe. Who knows...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 31, 2023 02:09 PM (Q4IgG)

30 Don't hire the Stooges to fix the range.

Posted by: This House Sho' Gone Crazy! at December 31, 2023 02:10 PM (V5BDR)

31 ah, gas stoves

I remember the time Granny turned on the gas, then went looking for a match

hilarity ensued

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 02:10 PM (geLO8)

32 Repair clinic dot com. Worth a look.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 02:10 PM (NBVIP)

33
I have a bunch of newish appliances that the electronics no longer work properly in. It's become a fact of life. Figuring out the work-arounds to get any sort of decent life expectancy out of them is a challenge.

It's my pet conspiracy theory that China is using our electric grid to disable their stuff, and the fluoridation of water is removing my purity of essence.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 31, 2023 02:10 PM (3qE2b)

34 When you're not using your disposable candle lighters for lighting up the meth pipe, they can be used in the kitchen or at the grill when necessary.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 31, 2023 02:10 PM (J3ryZ)

35 Going to be shopping for a clothes dryer this next Tuesday. I'm hoping to get one that doesn't advertise being green or an "energy saver".

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 02:11 PM (BdMk6)

36
Electric sparker starters are as useless as tits on a bull.

Strike anywhere matches FTW!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023 02:11 PM (8Z5Bd)

37 this has nothing to do with mechanics but with decor.

I was showing a friend a pic of a kitchen I liked, she didn't like the cobalt blue range because she thought it didn't match and looked cheap. It was one of those Viking models that cost about $7k

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:12 PM (YXbRL)

38 25 When the furnace was installed, new city codes required the installation of an OSA duct and a chimney liner. The first winter with that, ice blocked the OSA duct. So now that's the first thing I check if the furnace stops.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at December 31, 2023 02:12 PM (MvF+J)

39 >>>the electric starter has stopped working.
-------------------------

First world solution, stock up on $1.98 grill lighters.
Old world solution, kitchen matches.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:13 PM (HO/bY)

40 Has anyone developed a mercaptan after shave or colon? 'Tis a manly scent.

Posted by: Hai Karate! at December 31, 2023 02:13 PM (V5BDR)

41
When you're not using your disposable candle lighters ...

Those are becoming more and more useless, too.

Strike anywhere matches FTW!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023 02:14 PM (8Z5Bd)

42 I'm not looking for any colorful appliances though. It will be either basic white or stainless steel. The color can appear elsewhere.

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:14 PM (YXbRL)

43 I was a fire bug as a kid. My parents hid all the lighters so I lit paper towels on the electric burners. Use a lighter, I’m sure you can find one from Kitchen Aid or ThermoPro.

Posted by: Jamaica at December 31, 2023 02:14 PM (Eeb9P)

44 Some time ago, I sent my Omega Seamaster to the official repair facility because it was running slow- like up to 20 seconds a day.

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 02:08 PM (geLO

I sent mine in about three years ago. It took 12 weeks, and they did a shit job. They didn't replace the crystal (which was specified in the work order), and they did not regulate it particularly well.

On the other hand, they f*cked up the bill so I didn't pay for their crap work.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 31, 2023 02:14 PM (gSZYf)

45
Strike anywhere matches FTW!

I haven't seen any of those in stores for a long time.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2023 02:14 PM (63Dwl)

46 "I have a bunch of newish appliances that the electronics no longer work properly in."

Here in IL, when the non-repairable appliances die, we can't put them out in the trash anymore. We have to take them to a recycling center and pay a fee to dispose of them. E.g., $25 to throw out a TV.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at December 31, 2023 02:15 PM (MvF+J)

47 If the gas flows to the burner it seems like it would start with an external flame? How else would you know the gas is really flowing to the burner?

Posted by: PaleRider at December 31, 2023 02:15 PM (3cGpq)

48 I can start my stove burner with a match, but the oven uses a sensor that won't release fuel before the igniter is sparking, so a match won't work. I bought a half dozen ignitors and keep them in inventory. Another tip: GE gas ovens have an upper and lower ignitor, so when the often used lower goes out, one can swap in the upper (broiler) ignitor in a pinch.

But, considering where you live, aren't you already a criminal for using natural gas?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 02:15 PM (s6UsT)

49 >>The stove is considered old...12 years is now old in our modern economy!

You will get a Viking Professional 5 Series 36 Inch Freestanding Professional Gas Range with 6 Sealed Burners, in Periwinkle Blue.

You will do this now.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 31, 2023 02:15 PM (XV/Pl)

50
... and do not get me started on the ever declining quality and heat output of charcoal briquettes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023 02:15 PM (8Z5Bd)

51 As the Starland Vocal Band explained some years ago rubbin' sticks and stones together make the sparks ignite.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 02:16 PM (FVME7)

52 Often times a MAPP gas torch is a tremendous substitute for firing a burner when it isn't being used to finish a sous vide entree.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 31, 2023 02:16 PM (J3ryZ)

53 How else would you know the gas is really flowing to the burner?

you can smell it or sometimes even hear a slight hissing sound

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:16 PM (YXbRL)

54 Thanks for the KitchenAid gas stove testimonial. Will not recommend!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, Bird Law Expert at December 31, 2023 02:17 PM (snyZJ)

55 When I was a kid the gas company raised rates. Dad cut off the pilot lights to the stove. Gramps cut off the pilot to the Dearborn room heaters.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:17 PM (HO/bY)

56
Strike anywhere matches FTW!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023

Probably illegal now because tens of millions of males of my generation wrapped the end in aluminum foil then lit them with another match to watch them sail away.

Then 'motified' the Pep Boys match covers so they all exhibited a very prominent phallus. I think the image of that is still available on Bing Image Search.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 31, 2023 02:18 PM (3qE2b)

57 Skyrockets in flight.

Posted by: The Starland Vocal Band at December 31, 2023 02:18 PM (NBVIP)

58
The color can appear elsewhere.
Posted by: kallisto

Save the color for your language, because it definitely will appear there.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023 02:18 PM (8Z5Bd)

59 Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 31, 2023 02:15 PM (XV/Pl)

oh no...I just said I was going to stick with basic white, now he's tempting me with the Periwinkle Blue

*get thee behind me satan*

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:18 PM (YXbRL)

60 If the gas flows to the burner it seems like it would start with an external flame? How else would you know the gas is really flowing to the burner?

Posted by: PaleRider at December 31, 2023 02:15 PM (3cGpq)

The burner itself works fine, and the electric starter for the burner works too. But the switch in the burner control has failed, so the electric starting system doesn't know when to turn on.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 31, 2023 02:18 PM (gSZYf)

61 Save the color for your language, because it definitely will appear there.

now that's a fucked up assumption to make!

why would your cocked-up brain even go there?

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:20 PM (YXbRL)

62 The Westinghouse stove has been okay so far.

I bought a refurb Kitchen Aid mixer. I did this a few years back and it worked great. This one, POS that has never worked right. There was some insurance on it so I sent it back for work. It lasted a month. I have an older one that I will grease and repair. Then I'll throw out the bad one.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 31, 2023 02:21 PM (L8hCM)

63 Some time ago, I sent my Omega Seamaster to the official repair facility because it was running slow- like up to 20 seconds a day.

I got it back not long ago. Now it runs fast, something like 4-5 seconds over 24 hours. I can't catch a break.

However, I'd rather have a watch that runs a little fast than one that runs excessively slow.
Posted by: Don Black

Not to brag, but to point out a technological decline: I have a 1901 Waltham pocket watch that gains one second every two weeks. It could probably be adjusted further, but why bother? It already exceeds Rolex standards and is 122 years old.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 02:22 PM (s6UsT)

64 Probably illegal now because tens of millions of males of my generation wrapped the end in aluminum foil then lit them with another match to watch them sail away.

-
Also put match heads in .22 bullet casings, crimp the open end shut, then smack it with a hammer for a satisfying bang.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 02:22 PM (FVME7)

65 Strike anywhere matches FTW!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023
Probably illegal now because tens of millions of males of my generation wrapped the end in aluminum foil then lit them with another match to watch them sail away.

Banned in US because the tips can be used as an ingredient in meth.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 31, 2023 02:22 PM (yWvc2)

66 Grates in the pick are raw iron. Grates on my stove are covered with some kind of synthetic crap. It's as if they expect you to not move the pan. Is that a government regulation or simply design by idiot?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:22 PM (HO/bY)

67 Diamond still makes strike anywhere matches. Wally Mart. Then bucks.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 02:22 PM (NBVIP)

68 *Ten

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 02:23 PM (NBVIP)

69 Get a long-stemmed barbecue lighter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 02:23 PM (tkR6S)

70 There are guys on YT who do amazing PCB repairs. This guy does jaw-dropping work on GPUs:

youtube.com/@northwestrepair

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at December 31, 2023 02:23 PM (MvF+J)

71 65 Strike anywhere matches FTW!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023
Probably illegal now because tens of millions of males of my generation wrapped the end in aluminum foil then lit them with another match to watch them sail away.
----------------------

Fire one, fire two

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:24 PM (HO/bY)

72 Strike anywhere matches FTW!

I haven't seen any of those in stores for a long time.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

Try Ace or Tractor Supply.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 02:25 PM (s6UsT)

73 No more manly striking the match on your jeans or with your thumb.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:25 PM (HO/bY)

74
kallisto

*chef's kiss*😘

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023 02:25 PM (8Z5Bd)

75 No natural gas in my neighborhood, but I have had a new-in-the-box LP stove sitting in my garage for ten years, waiting for my now 45 year-old Kenmore electric stove to die.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 31, 2023 02:25 PM (yWvc2)

76 Big Hickory is behind the charcoal decline. It's all about greed. Now Big Mesquite is following their lead.

Posted by: Woody Tobias, Jr. at December 31, 2023 02:26 PM (V5BDR)

77 62
I bought a refurb Kitchen Aid mixer. I did this a few years back and it worked great. This one, POS that has never worked right. There was some insurance on it so I sent it back for work. It lasted a month. I have an older one that I will grease and repair. Then I'll throw out the bad one.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 31, 2023 02:21 PM (L8hCM)

I bought my ex-wife a kitchen aid mixer about 15 years ago and she never had a problem with it.

Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 02:26 PM (A5THL)

78 Diamond Strike Anywhere Penny Matches 10 Pack 320 Total

https://www.walmart.com/ip/365264084

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 02:26 PM (NBVIP)

79 Diamond still makes strike anywhere matches. Wally Mart. Then bucks.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 02:22 PM (NBVIP)

Yup. I'm looking at a box of them right now. Bought them just a few weeks ago.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 02:29 PM (BdMk6)

80
No more manly striking the match on your jeans or with your thumb.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:25 PM

Then a piece of the match breaks off upon ignition and gets lodged under your thumbnail flaming away. Only happens once before you decide to use the heel of your shoe in the mostly manly way possible.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 31, 2023 02:30 PM (3qE2b)

81 Amazon has shit-tons of matches, including old-timey paper matchbooks

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 02:30 PM (geLO8)

82 Grandma lit hers with a match. Now you can use a grill lighter, so even easier. Hell, I use a match when using the Coleman when camping or canning in the summer. You probably won't burn yourself.... probably.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 31, 2023 02:30 PM (sRfrW)

83 Diamond Strike Anywhere Penny Matches 10 Pack 320 Total

https://www.walmart.com/ip/365264084
Posted by: Quarter Twenty'

No. With the new stoves that does not work. The entire unit CAN be made to function that way if one is so inclined but it involves gutting all the electronics out of the stove and junking all the controls. Then the stove unit is no longer a FWP.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:30 PM (OJ1IG)

84 @59

>>oh no...I just said I was going to stick with basic white, now he's tempting me with the Periwinkle Blue

I am planning to redo the kitchen next fall, this new house is completely electric, so I'm cooking on a.... on a... I don't want to say it, I shan't say it....

Anyway, we're sinking a 1000 gallon propane tank and upgrading all of the electric appliances and utilities to propane.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 31, 2023 02:30 PM (XV/Pl)

85 53 How else would you know the gas is really flowing to the burner?
------------

Put the lighted match at the burner then turn on the gas.
If the gas is flowing to the burner it will light. If there is
no gas it will not light.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:30 PM (HO/bY)

86 But a rechargeable plasma lighter is cool. I like using mine.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 02:31 PM (NBVIP)

87 >No more manly striking the match on your jeans or with your thumb.

---

See Double Indemnity
Fred MacMurray lights matches with his thumbnail all thru the movie

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 02:32 PM (geLO8)

88 You can always use the spark lighter from your acetylene rig.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (HO/bY)

89 I bought my ex-wife a kitchen aid mixer about 15 years ago and she never had a problem with it.
Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 02:26 PM (A5THL)

Mom got her mixer in 1953, and it still works like a charm. She gave me mine in the early 1980s, and it is a lovely thing. Works all the time, every time. I use it for lots of things, not least of which is mashing potatoes, peeling apples for canning, slicing veggies and making soap.

It really is the go-to appliance and I've never had it serviced.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (sRfrW)

90 83 Diamond Strike Anywhere Penny Matches 10 Pack 320 Total

https://www.walmart.com/ip/365264084
Posted by: Quarter Twenty'

No. With the new stoves that does not work. The entire unit CAN be made to function that way if one is so inclined but it involves gutting all the electronics out of the stove and junking all the controls. Then the stove unit is no longer a FWP.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:30 PM (OJ1IG)

Right, b/c then it works.

I admit, I don't do gas stoves...but that's b/c I always found them wildly unsafe b/c of the ones I had in previous rentals (front knobs that turn gas on if you lean into them - who the heck thought that was ever a good idea?).

Posted by: Nova Local at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (exHjb)

91 When they first started talking about limiting the size of the burners, i replaced my 15 year old Whirlpool range (which only had one large burner) with a Wolf. i think i won't have to buy another range in my lifetime. It was expensive, but has three burners even larger than the Whirlpool, and also has double stacked burners so you can set the flame really low. i never liked the Whirlpool controls, they took a naturally continuous flame adjustment and made it work in steps. i invariably wanted to set the flame half way between the steps.

Posted by: iowaan at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (P8N79)

92
Make lemonade, CBD!

Now you have more opportunity to grill outside on your snazzy, newish gas grill!

At least, until you have to cough up for stove en tu cocina.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (nFnyb)

93 "All appliances should be replaced every five years."
The Appliance manufacturers.

Planned Obsolescence ... it's a real thing.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (Cus5s)

94 Anyway, we're sinking a 1000 gallon propane tank and upgrading all of the electric appliances and utilities to propane.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I'm thinking about this for my next house out in the sticks. Is 1000 gallons enough for furnace, stove and water heater? In other words, how often would the tank need to be refilled?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (s6UsT)

95 Diamond Strike Anywhere Penny Matches 10 Pack 320 Total
https://www.walmart.com/ip/365264084
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 02:26 PM (NBVIP)

I'm happy to be wrong. Look at the price difference between these and the strike on box type. I wonder if the strike anywhere use a newer, much more expensive chemical compound than the old ones did?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (yWvc2)

96 No more iron skillets on that electric.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (HO/bY)

97 What are kitchen matches going for these days?

Posted by: From about that Time at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (4780s)

98 Now I am curious as to when electric ignition became the norm for gas stovetops.
Posted by: PaleRider

A very, very long time ago...Pvt E-1 Bif was repairing those igniters. But they were on w31 warheads. Oddly enough, they were all wired in a parallel circuit that fired them simultaneously, just like your stove top.

I had a bbq grill with a faulty igniter, pulled it apart to see if i could wire a double A battery into it and just about shit my pants at what i was looking at.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (3CCua)

99 Navajo nation asks for NASA launch delay over cremains: claims moon as a sacred site.

http://tinyurl.com/y4wedued

Posted by: Archimedes at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (CsUN+)

100 BIC multi-purpose lighter. That's what I use for the one burner that won't light on my stove.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (ju2Fy)

101 Mom just called and she is home from hospital

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (fwDg9)

102 FWP: I just bought a new phone, a Unihertz Titan Pocket. Nifty little smartphone with a full qwerty keyboard, like the late lamented Blackberry. It runs Android 11. Needless to say, in setting it up, I turned off all the evil Google-shit that I could, and refuse to open a Goggle account. No way, no how, fags.

The damn phone keeps emitting various bleats and beeps to "remind" me to turn on Gurgle Play so that all the various Gurgle Apps can run. Look, I don't use apps. At.All.

Seems like I will have to root this phone, and install Lineage OS, to fix it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (tkR6S)

103 I do have a very FWP: what does anyone else do to cut down on dust from the cat's litter box? I have The Old Cat and am loathe to change the litter type.
The litter box used to be in the basement but after a few... incidents... with the New Cat the litter box got moved upstairs, and it's very dusty. I'm using Cat's Pride Unscented '99% dust-free' Multi-Cat.
It's still dusty as fuck. Will dumping out the litter more frequently result in larger clay clumps, and less dust? Does anyone have a shop-vac type system?

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:35 PM (OJ1IG)

104 No. With the new stoves that does not work. The entire unit CAN be made to function that way if one is so inclined but it involves gutting all the electronics out of the stove and junking all the controls. Then the stove unit is no longer a FWP.
Posted by: LenNeal

It probably depends on the brand. My GE is 14 years old and can be lit with a match, just not the oven.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 02:35 PM (s6UsT)

105 BAL 28 MIA 13 H

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 02:36 PM (geLO8)

106 I do have a very FWP: what does anyone else do to cut down on dust from the cat's litter box?

I have an idea, but you probably won't like it.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 31, 2023 02:37 PM (CsUN+)

107 Stone pit. Wood. Two stones.

Economics, my dear boy! Economics!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 31, 2023 02:38 PM (ch/kO)

108 This time of year, it's time to retire the gas grill and focus on supplying the charcoal grill with enough mass to keep it rolling in the teens and twenties.

Only an asshole would grill when it's near 0 deg F.

*waves*

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 31, 2023 02:38 PM (J3ryZ)

109 The stovetop in my horse trailer LQ has always needed to be lit externally. I hang on to the grill starters after they are out of fluid because usually just the spark is sufficient to light the propane burner.
Posted by: PaleRider
=====
Now this is my kind of cheap, no, frugal.

Posted by: From about that Time at December 31, 2023 02:39 PM (4780s)

110 I'm thinking about this for my next house out in the sticks. Is 1000 gallons enough for furnace, stove and water heater? In other words, how often would the tank need to be refilled?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (s6UsT)

I had a house with a 500 gallon tank. Heat, water heater and stove all ran on propane. I had to fill it up 3 times a year typically.

Posted by: Montec at December 31, 2023 02:39 PM (BI8w/)

111
The widespread fucked-uppery of gas stoves that is surfacing in this thread is a real eye opener.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023 02:40 PM (8Z5Bd)

112 I'm in the middle of replacing an electric igniter on the Frigidaire oven, so can relate.

I am still kicking myself for not buying an antique cast-iron skeleton stove-oven combo at a local antique mall, in excellent shape, for USD$200. Set up for NG, an oven the size of a breadbox but it was there, and no electric anything. 4 burners, oven, light it all with a match.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:40 PM (OJ1IG)

113 Navajo nation asks for NASA launch delay over cremains: claims moon as a sacred site.

http://tinyurl.com/y4wedued
Posted by: Archimedes at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (CsUN+)

Get your rez buddies to build a rocket and plant the Navajo flag there. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 02:40 PM (BdMk6)

114 >>> 89 I bought my ex-wife a kitchen aid mixer about 15 years ago and she never had a problem with it.
Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 02:26 PM (A5THL)

Mom got her mixer in 1953, and it still works like a charm. She gave me mine in the early 1980s, and it is a lovely thing. Works all the time, every time. I use it for lots of things, not least of which is mashing potatoes, peeling apples for canning, slicing veggies and making soap.

It really is the go-to appliance and I've never had it serviced.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (sRfrW)

I would never have thought of that.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 31, 2023 02:41 PM (llON8)

115 Use this one gallon Hobo Stove.

Soon to be all the rage in the coming Bidenvilles.

http://tinyurl.com/bdeztxyc

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2023 02:41 PM (R/m4+)

116 @94

>>I'm thinking about this for my next house out in the sticks. Is 1000 gallons enough for furnace, stove and water heater? In other words, how often would the tank need to be refilled?

Depending on the size of you're house and how many appliances you are running, a 1000 gallon propane tank should last 6-8 months, possible a year or more, if your house is small, say 1000sft.

There are calculators that can help you figure out your usage.

For me, I will be getting two to three re-fuels per year.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 31, 2023 02:41 PM (XV/Pl)

117 Seems like I will have to root this phone, and install Lineage OS, to fix it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----------------

Keep up apprised of the steps in this undertaking.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:41 PM (HO/bY)

118 I do have a very FWP: what does anyone else do to cut down on dust from the cat's litter box? I have The Old Cat and am loathe to change the litter type.
The litter box used to be in the basement but after a few... incidents... with the New Cat the litter box got moved upstairs, and it's very dusty. I'm using Cat's Pride Unscented '99% dust-free' Multi-Cat.
It's still dusty as fuck. Will dumping out the litter more frequently result in larger clay clumps, and less dust? Does anyone have a shop-vac type system?
Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:35 PM (OJ1IG)

On the upside, with all the airborne cat feces, you now have a new colony of Toxoplasma gondii speeding around your brain.

You'll never be lonely again!

CATS -Gaia Can Use Biological Warfare Too!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2023 02:41 PM (nFnyb)

119 I do have a very FWP: what does anyone else do to cut down on dust from the cat's litter box?

I have an idea, but you probably won't like it.
Posted by: Archimedes'

I know where this is going and I have also considered this but The Kid. So, any emotionally acceptable suggestions?

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:41 PM (OJ1IG)

120 Hmm. I'd go with cutting the wires and splicing in a new starter.
Posted by: Tom
===
This. Buy the new harness, cut of an igniter, and splice it in. Plus, you have enough igniters to fix the next three or four burners when they go.

Posted by: From about that Time at December 31, 2023 02:42 PM (4780s)

121 Replaced my hot water tank 3 weeks ago. 21 years old. I'll be lucky to get half that with the new one.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 31, 2023 02:42 PM (R4t5M)

122 103 I hear ya! Dusty in here too.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at December 31, 2023 02:43 PM (MvF+J)

123 I had a house with a 500 gallon tank. Heat, water heater and stove all ran on propane. I had to fill it up 3 times a year typically.
Posted by: Montec

Good deal, thanks.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 02:43 PM (s6UsT)

124 Indian tribes are like Muslims. Everything is sacred and the mostest holiest site. Yeah fuck off.
You don’t own the moon.

Posted by: Montec at December 31, 2023 02:43 PM (BI8w/)

125 Seems like I will have to root this phone, and install Lineage OS, to fix it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Keep up apprised of the steps in this undertaking.
Posted by: Braenyard

Yes, I believe all it really requires is a Paxton App.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:43 PM (OJ1IG)

126 I thought everybody used a mixer for making soap.

Posted by: Granny from The Beverly Hillbillies at December 31, 2023 02:44 PM (NBVIP)

127 *chef's kiss*😘

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023 02:25 PM (8Z5Bd)

"you can take the girl our of Delco, but you can't take the Delco out of the girl"

Posted by: kallisto knows that neighbor Krebs "gets it" at December 31, 2023 02:44 PM (YXbRL)

128 My mother's Kenmore dryer she got for a wedding present in 1969 lasted 40 years.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 31, 2023 02:44 PM (R4t5M)

129 Mom just called and she is home from hospital
Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (fwDg9)

Nice !

Posted by: JT at December 31, 2023 02:45 PM (T4tVD)

130 Is Muldoon about?

You bought a tankless water heater a few years ago,

how'd that work out for you?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 31, 2023 02:45 PM (nFnyb)

131 >>> 94 Anyway, we're sinking a 1000 gallon propane tank and upgrading all of the electric appliances and utilities to propane.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I'm thinking about this for my next house out in the sticks. Is 1000 gallons enough for furnace, stove and water heater? In other words, how often would the tank need to be refilled?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (s6UsT)

I use propane for my stove and 150 gallons lasts a *long* time. I would expect the furnace to use the most by far, especially if the water heater is tankless (my neighbors have one and love it). Total guess, unless you live in the South, you'll have to refill every fall so you have enough for winter.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 31, 2023 02:45 PM (llON8)

132 My mother's Kenmore dryer she got for a wedding present in 1969 lasted 40 years.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory'

What model? Mine, from the MiL, is still functional in the basement and is at least 40 years old.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:45 PM (OJ1IG)

133 I'm thinking about this for my next house out in the sticks. Is 1000 gallons enough for furnace, stove and water heater? In other words, how often would the tank need to be refilled?
Posted by: Thomas Paine

That's a big ass tank - normally this size tank is used for grain dryers. This will sound snarky but it's not - how long it lasts will totally depend on how high or low your usage is. We had a 500 gal tank with the same equipment serviced as you want and that needed to be filled maybe twice a year.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 02:45 PM (qoGsy)

134
I have an idea, but you probably won't like it.
Posted by: Archimedes

Do tell!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023 02:45 PM (8Z5Bd)

135 Good news, Skip.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 31, 2023 02:46 PM (R4t5M)

136 "The stovetop in my horse trailer"

Words I never thought I'd see. Is it so they can make tea while they travel?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 31, 2023 02:46 PM (Mzdiz)

137 We wish we could be tankless.

Posted by: Voters in Georgia at December 31, 2023 02:46 PM (NBVIP)

138 Gathering up good fire wood, as well as getting rid of bad fire wood, for that always possibly of going to that 3WP if power goes out

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 02:47 PM (cL4jw)

139 Oh you won't be replacing that with another gas stove, colonizer.

You better get used to inductive heat made with free range organic electrons.

You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against -- then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it.

Posted by: Your Betters at December 31, 2023 02:47 PM (IFNME)

140 Posted by: Nova Local at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (exHjb)

I have a roommate and always have to check that the knob isn't turned just enough to get the gas flow going. Because of the stove's location, it's really easy to bump up against it while reaching for something in a cabinet.

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:47 PM (YXbRL)

141 I think my old brand of kitty litter was tidy cat and I never had a probem with it. She bought new brand yesyter day ansmhave nur used it myet

Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 02:47 PM (A5THL)

142 Is Muldoon about?
You bought a tankless water heater a few years ago,
how'd that work out for you?
Posted by: naturalfake

Not Muldoon, but my tankless Bosch 125B-NG gas tankless is The Bomb. 20+ years old and going strong, it's terrific.
The electrics are terrifying. You need 440 3-phase to get lukewarm water, they're absurd.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:48 PM (OJ1IG)

143
Seems like I will have to root this phone, and install Lineage OS, to fix it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

In 'setup' there should be a section labeled "notifications", when you go in there you can select what you will allow to ding/bother you.
I turn off almost everything except for phone and msgs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 02:48 PM (0zai3)

144 GD this computer

Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 02:48 PM (A5THL)

145 You better get used to inductive heat made with free range organic electrons.

I know this post is TIC, but yesterday I found out about the Brava oven, a smart oven that cooks with...LIGHT!

but it cannot match the joy of cooking with FIRE!!

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:48 PM (YXbRL)

146 I'm happy to be wrong. Look at the price difference between these and the strike on box type. I wonder if the strike anywhere use a newer, much more expensive chemical compound than the old ones did?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (yWvc2)

I have a box of Diamond "strike anywhere" matches. They work well only for a very few values of "anywhere".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 02:48 PM (tkR6S)

147 My FWP today is that I somehow slept in until noon. Haven't done that in many, many moons. It was kinda nice but I'm feeling like my whole day has been wasted.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 02:48 PM (V8he0)

148 My mother's Kenmore dryer she got for a wedding present in 1969 lasted 40 years.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 31, 2023 02:44 PM (R4t5M)

That's how old my Kenmore dryer was when it died.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 02:49 PM (BdMk6)

149 I have a kerosene heater for emergencies. The electronic igniter crapped out. Now I use a grill lighter and hope for the best and not the worst. Which would be burning the place down.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 31, 2023 02:49 PM (Q4IgG)

150 Sterno FTW! Lights with match, no electronics, and in a pinch, a refreshing beverage!

Posted by: Rum Dum at December 31, 2023 02:49 PM (V5BDR)

151 Unsure of the model, LesNeal.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 31, 2023 02:49 PM (R4t5M)

152 She bought new brand yesyter day ansmhave nur used it myet
Posted by: vic'

Is this how people talk when they have toxmoplasmosis?

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:50 PM (OJ1IG)

153 I have an idea, but you probably won't like it.
Posted by: Archimedes

Do tell!

My suggestion was already rejected in #119.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 31, 2023 02:50 PM (CsUN+)

154 >>> 136 "The stovetop in my horse trailer"

Words I never thought I'd see. Is it so they can make tea while they travel?
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 31, 2023 02:46 PM (Mzdiz)

There are models with a tiny apartment-style space in the front of the trailer - designed for people who travel a lot with their horses, usually for shows.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 31, 2023 02:50 PM (llON8)

155 My FWP.
Why is it that in every SciFy film, when the spaceship comes in to land, it has to rotate 180 degrees? It's stupid. Intergalactic travelers and they can't come straight in to land???

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 02:50 PM (W/lyH)

156 Most appliances are indeed garbage these days. I would say they went downhill starting in the early nineties. I keep my old ones running, as the repairs are usually cheaper than a replacement and will last longer. My 1983 meat grinder died, and I tried a new one. It was returned immediately, and I found a 1980s grinder on eBay or similar site for less money and far superior performance. The moral: keep your old appliances and buy used appliances for replacements if you can.

A big part of the problem, besides cheap/slave labor is that cheap microprocessors are added to products that have no need of them.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 02:50 PM (s6UsT)

157 *inductive heat made with free range organic electrons."

But are they fair trade?

Posted by: Karen McWinebox at December 31, 2023 02:51 PM (NBVIP)

158 They are generic and cheap, buy a second for back-up

http://tinyurl.com/2ks3m72d (amazon)

So simple a caveman can do it.

Posted by: David H at December 31, 2023 02:51 PM (tahWp)

159 I have a 1000 gallon tank for grain bins, but has not been used for that purpose for at least 20 years. Not sure it can be used now ... the tanks/valves apparently have a shelf life. But I would just use it as a back up, prepper thing, probably.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 31, 2023 02:52 PM (Cus5s)

160 Due to all the EPA f*ckery I'm considering replacing my HVAC set up. It is reaching end of life but still works well. But with possible (probable) unimaginable new refrigerant/equipment rules coming down the pike, I want to get in before that happens.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 02:52 PM (qoGsy)

161 Posted by: BifBewalski at December 31, 2023 02:34 PM (3CCua)

were those electric igniters installed as a safety measure, to try and prevent kitchens or other environments from getting all splodey?

Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:52 PM (YXbRL)

162 It frustrates me that major items are designed to be disposable. Such a big waste! But we're encouraged to update to new appliances way too soon because the new ones are more energy-efficient and will save the planet.

Something tells me the planet-savers are not factoring in the energy and resource costs of producing an endless stream of disposable appliances in place of sturdy, reliable ones.

On top of that, the planet-savers want everyone to do without disposable items that make sense. So we have big, expensive, complex disposable things, but don't you dare use a straw in your drink!

Posted by: Emmie at December 31, 2023 02:52 PM (Sf2cq)

163 40 Has anyone developed a mercaptan after shave or colon? 'Tis a manly scent.

Posted by: Hai Karate! at December 31, 2023 02:13 PM (V5BDR)
----
I know you meant cologne.
The skunk has already perfected that with butyl mercaptan.
That is used in piped town gas mains to let users know if there is a methane leak. We were using it as a radical scavenger in lab reactions. At the end of the reaction, excess butyl mercaptan and solvent was removed by vacuum evaporation, with the fumes going out of a duct on the roof and into the atmosphere. I'm not sure how it got reported but the Cambridge MA gas people were out in force looking for a gas leak. They even came to our building but didn't find anything with their sniffers and we played innocent (1974-5).

Posted by: Ciampino - a water soluble alternative is mercapto-ethanol at December 31, 2023 02:52 PM (qfLjt)

164 140 Posted by: Nova Local at December 31, 2023 02:33 PM (exHjb)

I have a roommate and always have to check that the knob isn't turned just enough to get the gas flow going. Because of the stove's location, it's really easy to bump up against it while reaching for something in a cabinet.
Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:47 PM (YXbRL)

Yeah, I remember one day in my rental walking in and just smelling gas in the kitchen and turning the knob off (b/c someone had bumped it) and running out of the room and opening every window and door and sitting outside for an hour. Dinner was fastfood that night...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 31, 2023 02:53 PM (exHjb)

165 *inductive heat made with free range organic electrons."

But are they fair trade?

And did they live happy lives without being confined as Particles-In-A-Box?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 31, 2023 02:53 PM (CsUN+)

166 At the supermarket (where I work) we totally sold out of charcoal on Xmas and for NYE.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:53 PM (OJ1IG)

167 I'm thinking about this for my next house out in the sticks. Is 1000 gallons enough for furnace, stove and water heater? In other words, how often would the tank need to be refilled?
Posted by: Thomas Paine

That's a big ass tank - normally this size tank is used for grain dryers. This will sound snarky but it's not - how long it lasts will totally depend on how high or low your usage is. We had a 500 gal tank with the same equipment serviced as you want and that needed to be filled maybe twice a year.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 02:45 PM (qoGsy)
***

I'm thinking one egg in the basket.
Better two 500s.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 02:53 PM (W/lyH)

168 I think my old brand of kitty litter was tidy cat and I never had a probem with it. She bought new brand yesyter day ansmhave nur used it myet
Posted by: vic at December 31, 2023 02:47 PM (A5THL)

I used Tidy Cat 24/7 litter. Excellent clumping so keeping it clean was easy. Very little to no dust.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 02:53 PM (BdMk6)

169 Diamond matches are useless

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 02:54 PM (geLO8)

170 >>> 160 Due to all the EPA f*ckery I'm considering replacing my HVAC set up. It is reaching end of life but still works well. But with possible (probable) unimaginable new refrigerant/equipment rules coming down the pike, I want to get in before that happens.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 02:52 PM (qoGsy)

Propane and butane are *great* for A/C, especially in apartments. Aren't we SMAHHHHHHHRT!!!

Posted by: Top.Men. at December 31, 2023 02:54 PM (llON8)

171 another FWP

Bailey's Irish Cream comes in a bottle that is so opaque, it's hard to tell how much is left

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 02:55 PM (geLO8)

172 Has anyone developed a mercaptan ... colon? 'Tis a manly scent.
Posted by: Hai Karate!

A bit redundant, I think.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 31, 2023 02:55 PM (DsA2n)

173 Yes, particle in a box is a real thing in quantum mechanics.

http://tinyurl.com/yc4ves3w

Posted by: Archimedes at December 31, 2023 02:55 PM (CsUN+)

174 Yeah, I remember one day in my rental walking in and just smelling gas in the kitchen and turning the knob off (b/c someone had bumped it) and running out of the room and opening every window and door and sitting outside for an hour. Dinner was fastfood that night...
Posted by: Nova Local'

Holy Hell does anyone here have ANY idea how much NG it actually takes to blow up a house? The shit is very nearly harmless. It's like maybe 15 psi and pressed through an orifice. The additive is crazy strong-smelling. The houses I experienced blow up were under construction where thieves broke in, yanked all the new appliances/furnace/etc. by cutting the gas lines to all of them, and all that ran full blast for, in both cases, 3 DAYS before ignition.
People 'smell gas!'
People are fucking scared sheep.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:56 PM (OJ1IG)

175 Bailey's Irish Cream comes in a bottle that is so opaque, it's hard to tell how much is left.

Buy several. Two is one and one is done.

Posted by: As we all know at December 31, 2023 02:57 PM (NBVIP)

176 The shittiness of modern of appliances has a lot to do with all the “”green” regulations imposed by the government. Manufacturers can’t do much about that.

Posted by: Montec at December 31, 2023 02:57 PM (BI8w/)

177 Diamond matches are useless
Posted by: Don Black

I had a couple of the diamond strike anywhere boxes for 'emergency' use. Tried to light candles last month, nope, none of them would strike a flame. They burned with appropriate flaring when lit with torch.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 02:57 PM (0zai3)

178 My gas range is a 23 years old Maytag 5-burner. It gets nothing but an occasional boilover cleanup.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 02:57 PM (NxC5+)

179 I used Tidy Cat 24/7 litter. Excellent clumping so keeping it clean was easy. Very little to no dust.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons'

Finally! Now I can shoot my cats.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:57 PM (OJ1IG)

180 another FWP

Bailey's Irish Cream comes in a bottle that is so opaque, it's hard to tell how much is left
Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 02:55 PM (geLO

Left over Baileys?
Is this possible???

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2023 02:57 PM (W/lyH)

181 So, any emotionally acceptable suggestions?
Posted by: LenNeal

Mist it with a water bottle sprayer prior to scooping. That will keep your human created dust down. You could also mist it once or twice a day as a maintenance feature to keep the cat's dust down too.

Find a dustless cat litter. Then gradually mix in the new dustless stuff over a three or four month period. The cat will get used to it gradually and should have no issues if you do it slowly enough.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 31, 2023 02:58 PM (3CCua)

182 People are fucking scared sheep.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:56 PM (OJ1IG)

well maybe we don't have your extensive knowledge on the subject, sorry we don't measure up to your standards, BUCKO

Posted by: kallisto , channeling Jordan Peterson at December 31, 2023 02:58 PM (YXbRL)

183 *Holy Hell does anyone here have ANY idea how much NG it actually takes to blow up a house?*

I have a vague idea...

Posted by: That guy in Arlington, Virginia a few weeks ago at December 31, 2023 02:58 PM (NBVIP)

184 160 Due to all the EPA f*ckery I'm considering replacing my HVAC set up. It is reaching end of life but still works well. But with possible (probable) unimaginable new refrigerant/equipment rules coming down the pike, I want to get in before that happens.

Posted by: Tonypete
------------------------------

Then when your refrigerant gets a little low it will be illegal to top off.
That's where I am at the moment.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:58 PM (HO/bY)

185 Holy Hell does anyone here have ANY idea how much NG it actually takes to blow up a house? The shit is very nearly harmless. It's like maybe 15 psi and pressed through an orifice. The additive is crazy strong-smelling. The houses I experienced blow up were under construction where thieves broke in, yanked all the new appliances/furnace/etc. by cutting the gas lines to all of them, and all that ran full blast for, in both cases, 3 DAYS before ignition.
People 'smell gas!'
People are fucking scared sheep.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:56 PM (OJ1IG)

It's one of those "do you want to find out how much a spark it takes to blow up your sh&tty small rental kitchen when you have no idea HOW LONG the gas was running" - not to mention, breathing gas is also bad for one's health...if you can breath it the instant you enter a room, there's probably too much for your health...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 31, 2023 02:58 PM (exHjb)

186 With a propane tank you don’t need to fill it up each time. I had a service which IIRC had a minimum 100 gallons per delivery. So I watched pricing and if there was a dip I’d fill it up. If prices were up, I’d only get the minimum. And prices did bounce around quite a lot throughout the year.

Posted by: Montec at December 31, 2023 02:59 PM (BI8w/)

187 My FWP is trying to cover ourselves in case of reversion to second or third world.

Not full on Mad Max prepper style, but more of a Randian decline, where things are just falling apart. I see lots of places where there is a lot of deferred maintenance.

Have been acquiring things to turn our unimproved farm property into a proper homestead. Need to accelerate the things we are going to need like utilities (power -street and solar, well, septic) so that at a minimum we can plop a travel trailer on there.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2023 02:59 PM (IFNME)

188 natural gas has an odorant added to it

but that odorant can be absorbed- 'scrubbed out'- by leaking through porous building materials

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 03:00 PM (geLO8)

189 I've run NG piping inside houses with it still on, full blast, installing valves with it on. It's all but harmless.

I mean, don't light up your crack pipe while doing this but For Real. The unreasoning panic just irritates me.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:00 PM (OJ1IG)

190 Trump says countries are emptying their mental institutions and sending them here.

We are #$&%@ beyond comprehension.

Posted by: US Debt Clown World at December 31, 2023 03:00 PM (vcOd1)

191 168 I think my old brand of kitty litter was tidy cat and I never had a probem with it. She bought new brand yesyter day ansmhave nur used it myet
Posted by: vic
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What happened. When did you get married?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 03:01 PM (HO/bY)

192 It’s just crazy people Doing the craziness Americans won’t do H8er!

Posted by: Montec at December 31, 2023 03:01 PM (BI8w/)

193 Gas companies found that they were having leaks at old homes with old appliances and after investigating found that people with a poor sense of small (ie: old people) actually *liked* the smell of mercaptan. I don't remember if they changed the smell or just decided to knock off all the olds...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 03:02 PM (0zai3)

194 >Left over Baileys?
Is this possible???

Posted by: Diogenes
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as I make my way thru the bottle, I want to be able to see how much is left

need one of those dipstick things like they use at the gas station

Posted by: Don Black at December 31, 2023 03:02 PM (geLO8)

195 AZ Deplorable, I buy a fire starter every time I see one. Have dozens of butane lighters. And can start a fire with a couple sticks, a string, and some tinder.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2023 03:02 PM (NxC5+)

196
The electrics are terrifying. You need 440 3-phase to get lukewarm water, they're absurd.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:48 PM

I have a 4 gallon tank on a 110 line 20 feet from my bedroom shower - set to 140 degrees and I'm incredibly bored long before it runs out of hot water. The RV stuff is pretty amazing for efficiency and insulation. Ten minutes later it's ready for the next shower. Modular design thanks to me, it would take ten minutes tops to replace, for another $150 bucks. Shut off on water in, water out, pull plug, unscrew fittings, lift off, lift on, screw fittings back on, turn on, plug back in. Annual cost for electricity around a hundred bucks. I get a notice from my utility every six months comparing my electric usage versus 'efficient' neighbors and I kick their asses.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 31, 2023 03:02 PM (3qE2b)

197 It's like maybe 15 psi and pressed through an orifice. The additive is crazy strong-smelling. The houses I experienced blow up were under construction where thieves broke in, yanked all the new appliances/furnace/etc. by cutting the gas lines to all of them, and all that ran full blast for, in both cases, 3 DAYS before ignition.
People 'smell gas!'
People are fucking scared sheep.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:56 PM (OJ1IG)

Heh. Nowhere near that much pressure. Try a couple of inches of water column. You can develop more pressure using your lungs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:02 PM (tkR6S)

198 *The unreasoning panic just irritates me."

Now do COVID 19.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 03:03 PM (NBVIP)

199 With a big propane tank you can time your purchase with the market. I think prices go up and down seasonally.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 03:03 PM (HO/bY)

200 I bought a doorbell camera a couple of months ago. Whenever someone comes to the door, regardless of whether they ring, a special alert sounds on my phone. Charlie the poodle has learned that alert means somebody is at the door. He's a 21st century watch dog.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 03:03 PM (FVME7)

201 And can start a fire with a couple sticks, a string, and some tinder.
Posted by: Eromero

Me too as long as the stick is a match in real life...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 31, 2023 03:04 PM (0zai3)

202 You can develop more pressure using your lungs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Don't I know it!

Posted by: Kumala at December 31, 2023 03:04 PM (qoGsy)

203 I just repaired my side load washer, drum bearings went. This repair was terrible, I won't want to do it again, however much of that is due to an obvious design to not fix.
The replacement part was actually a whole half drum assembly, for 500 bucks, but I opted for the $30 seals and bearings. Had to remove and press bearings but for the $$ the effort was worth it. Was an 8 hour tour though...

Posted by: Inogame at December 31, 2023 03:04 PM (D/9Qo)

204 We are being trained to become a Throw Away Society. Complete reliant on China to make everything for us. And they make crap, plastic, short use crap. It all ends up in landfills or I. The front yard (if you're Native American).

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 31, 2023 03:04 PM (FSWTk)

205 $$$$

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:05 PM (4UYlo)

206 f you can breath it the instant you enter a room, there's probably too much for your health...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 31, 2023 02:58 PM (exHjb)

Okay. I've got to call bullshit on that one.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 03:05 PM (BdMk6)

207 People are fucking scared sheep.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:56 PM (OJ1IG)

well maybe we don't have your extensive knowledge on the subject, sorry we don't measure up to your standards, BUCKO
Posted by: kallisto'

Well, it takes a lot. And sorry, BUCK-EE, but it does. NG is also much lighter than air so it hovers around where people breath. Now, Propane. We had two new houses really blow, because it puddled up in the basement when thieves (see a pattern?) stole the heater out of the tri-level where they had it in to cure the drywall. One house blew like in Lethal Weapon, the other kind of 'jumped' off the sill and tweaked.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:05 PM (OJ1IG)

208 The unreasoning panic just irritates me.

We're so sorry, Uncle Albert.

Posted by: That guy who always sings... at December 31, 2023 03:05 PM (V8he0)

209 Here's another first world problem that really kind of piggybacks CBD's serious discussion. This is really about logistics and supply.

When I am doing maintenance on the cars, I try to use local parts stores (okay they are chains) because I want them to stay around in case I need stuff NOW. I will pay the premium over online if I can get it.

Except increasingly, I can't. More and more parts are moving into "just in time" and you have to rely on delivery. If everything falls apart, man, everything is going to fall apart.

Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2023 03:05 PM (IFNME)

210 It’s next year in half the world.

Posted by: Montec at December 31, 2023 03:07 PM (BI8w/)

211 28 to everyone asking CBD if he can use a match...read his post where he says: 'the gas flows but the burner doesn't ignite"

I'm in the same situation. I can sit there with a lit match or a grill igniter and die from gas asphyxiation while I wait for the burner to ignite!
Posted by: kallisto at December 31, 2023 02:09 PM (YXbRL)

... or something in between?

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:07 PM (4UYlo)

212 With NG piping you can put your thumb over 3/4" and stop the gas. The pressure is really low.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:08 PM (OJ1IG)

213 *I try to use local parts stores*

(Looks at fridge covered in RockAuto magnets)

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 03:08 PM (NBVIP)

214 die from gas asphyxiation
Posted by: kallisto'

I do not believe that is possible in any house on Planet Earth.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:09 PM (OJ1IG)

215 >>> 209 Here's another first world problem that really kind of piggybacks CBD's serious discussion. This is really about logistics and supply.

When I am doing maintenance on the cars, I try to use local parts stores (okay they are chains) because I want them to stay around in case I need stuff NOW. I will pay the premium over online if I can get it.

Except increasingly, I can't. More and more parts are moving into "just in time" and you have to rely on delivery. If everything falls apart, man, everything is going to fall apart.
Posted by: blaster at December 31, 2023 03:05 PM (IFNME)

This will only affect cars and trucks belonging to evil fans of OrangeManBad and *not* EVs or F-15s.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 31, 2023 03:09 PM (llON8)

216 "American" appliance brands started seriously going to shit in the 90's.

I see a lot of people over a certain age still conflate US made major appliances (assuming it's not Mexico now) with quality and in many cases that's just not the case. You have numbskulls assembling crap equipment and parts designed by engineers who, even if they competent (debatable), are overseen by the MBA mafia.

Posted by: somedood at December 31, 2023 03:09 PM (HIzXx)

217 My 1990 dyer wasn't drying. $30 heating element, $20 overheat solenoid, and $10 belt, plus 3 hours to take the entire unit down and back up. And I didn't need the element so it goes in my box of new old stock parts for various 'antique' appliances. I should get another 20 years out of the dryer.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 03:09 PM (s6UsT)

218 I have been thinking about buying older appliances, *much* older, because of these types of FWPs.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 31, 2023 03:11 PM (llON8)

219 By the way: if you have an old dryer, take the time to open the back panel and vacuum out the lint. It was an impressive amount. I think about a quarter of house fires are caused by dryers.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 03:12 PM (s6UsT)

220 I have been thinking about buying older appliances, *much* older, because of these types of FWPs.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I'll be needing a W/D set in the next year or so. I've also given your idea a great deal of thought. Or new Speed Queens - But, a bit pricey.

As if I'm leaving our $$$ to the kids. HA!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:12 PM (qoGsy)

221 Had an old gas stove in our house in Redondo Beach. Our first hosting of Thanksgiving dinner and the ignition button would not stay depressed to keep the gas flowing. Kept popping out. My husband used a broom handle and wedged it between the cabinet directly across the stove and pushed it against the button. It worked and the turkey turned out well, even though it was fantastically funny hopping over the broom handle (about 2 feet off the ground) and maneuvering around the kitchen.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2023 03:13 PM (CmpAD)

222 My 1990 dyer wasn't drying. $30 heating element, $20 overheat solenoid, and $10 belt, plus 3 hours to take the entire unit down and back up. And I didn't need the element so it goes in my box of new old stock parts for various 'antique' appliances. I should get another 20 years out of the dryer.
Posted by: Thomas Paine'

Same here. Kenmore 40+ year old dryer wasn't... drying. eBay! ordered a bunch of parts for USD$100 and just replaced a bunch of stuff, up and running. Total time of actual repair? Maybe 4 hours.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:13 PM (OJ1IG)

223 As far as household appliances go, there's no such thing as "new/improved" nowadays.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 03:14 PM (BdMk6)

224 >>>Except increasingly, I can't. More and more parts are moving into "just in time" and you have to rely on delivery. If everything falls apart, man, everything is going to fall apart.

Posted by: blaster
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It will be shit.
I commented on past Texas freezes last night. Several times it has gone below zero, (Texas!) Galveston bay froze solid enough for a bear to walk on it. Bam. If it was that cold on the Gulf how about parts in between? We don't need terrorists to shut us down.
A simple deep freeze from the Gulf to Canada would put us out of commission.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 03:14 PM (HO/bY)

225 Oh, with older stuff YT and a 1/4" nut driver. Get the model number if you can, do an Interwebz search for part numbers, and order away. Even if you're not AOP (or some asshole like me), it's way cheaper than calling a repairman who won't have the parts you need anyway.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:15 PM (OJ1IG)

226 150 Sterno FTW! Lights with match, no electronics, and in a pinch, a refreshing beverage!
Posted by: Rum Dum at December 31, 2023 02:49 PM (V5BDR)

; )

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:15 PM (4UYlo)

227 DJT should add prisoners to his list , cheaper to send them here than house them there

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 03:15 PM (fwDg9)

228 My near 30yo Sunbeam Mixmaster died recently. Looking through the manual, which my wife had held onto, I been mixing way too much dough in it the last couple of years.
So after extensive interweb research, I decided to by the larger capacity higher wattage machine that any cheap Chinese knockoffer could provide.
I'm staring at the box. It's a Howork.
I think more of kitchen workers myself.

Posted by: From about that Time at December 31, 2023 03:16 PM (4780s)

229 Fidel could have told them ghat

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 03:16 PM (fwDg9)

230
My 1990 dyer wasn't drying. $30 heating element, $20 overheat solenoid, and $10 belt, plus 3 hours to take the entire unit down and back up.

I was at a local hardware store recently and saw an entire display of 'standard' heating elements. I was actually a little surprised that so many people can (and do) do this kind of repair.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 31, 2023 03:16 PM (3qE2b)

231 FWP. Invited to party in our neighborhood. Had to be sociable. It was horrible.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:16 PM (ju2Fy)

232 Here's a Ewetoob guy showing how to make really good strike-anywhere matches out of the lame ones:

https://youtu.be/Qp89uu-oNeA

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:17 PM (tkR6S)

233 As if I'm leaving our $$$ to the kids. HA!!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:12 PM (qoGsy)

Leave the Speed Queens to your kids.

Posted by: Emmie at December 31, 2023 03:18 PM (Sf2cq)

234 My FWP - my old KitchenAid stand mixer doesn't mix as slow as it should when set on the lowest speed. There's no difference between the lowest and 2nd lowest setting. I should just tear it down and see what's up but I haven't gotten around to it just yet.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:18 PM (qoGsy)

235 I have a 4 gallon tank on a 110 line 20 feet from my bedroom shower - set to 140 degrees and I'm incredibly bored long before it runs out of hot water. The RV stuff is pretty amazing for efficiency and insulation. Ten minutes later it's ready for the next shower. Modular design thanks to me, it would take ten minutes tops to replace, for another $150 bucks. Shut off on water in, water out, pull plug, unscrew fittings, lift off, lift on, screw fittings back on, turn on, plug back in. Annual cost for electricity around a hundred bucks. I get a notice from my utility every six months comparing my electric usage versus 'efficient' neighbors and I kick their asses.
Posted by: Divide by Zero'

I think I remember you. Yes, your setup works. There was some discussion last time about where exactly you live and what your electric costs actually are. I live in WI and your setup is unlikely to save me dime one.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:18 PM (OJ1IG)

236 231 FWP. Invited to party in our neighborhood. Had to be sociable. It was horrible.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:16 PM (ju2Fy)

Food o.k.?

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:19 PM (4UYlo)

237 we are lucky, 30+ year old house, only the dishwasher has been replaced...
Gas Stove igniter replaced 2 times (by us! Moms best friend said she was able to replace hers, so we'd damn well better be able to do it too)

Fridge wasn't very cool, called a guy, put in R134 (in an R12 system) nice and cold again

guessing some day, there just won't be replacement parts available any more.

Posted by: ziggggeeee at December 31, 2023 03:19 PM (AsMdZ)

238 FWP. Invited to party in our neighborhood. Had to be sociable. It was horrible.
Posted by: olddog in mo

Naked, coed Twister wasn't a hit?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:19 PM (qoGsy)

239 [ ever decreasing manufacturing costs to make products that were once repairable into throw-away commodities

1993. I was just back to the US and bought a printer at Staples. It was built on the typewriter model, where the paper went around a platten and was held down by a bar with soft rollers. one of my rollers ripped and fell off, so back to Staples I go.

They gave me a new printer. I was horrified. It couldn't have ben more than a $0.30 part, but it less hassle to just give me a new printer. I've always considered that the beginning of the end.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 31, 2023 03:20 PM (CnLzB)

240 A simple deep freeze from the Gulf to Canada would put us out of commission.
Posted by: Braenyard

I got a 1000 watt tri-fuel generator and wired in a backup panel after the last deep freeze.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 03:20 PM (s6UsT)

241
I think about a quarter of house fires are caused by dryers.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 03:12 PM

I think the rest are caused by mice who set up a cozy nest in the warm confines of the homes service panel with incredibly flammable bedding material. Coldest day of winter, all those electrons flowing, mouse house catches fire. Really bad stuff starts happening then.

Check your service panel once in a while during winter. It's usually only four or six screws to pop it off and take a look.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 31, 2023 03:22 PM (3qE2b)

242 Get the replacement five sparker harness, cut off one new one from, open up range top and replace the one bad sparker.
Four good spares still on the shelf.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 31, 2023 03:22 PM (cOq4q)

243 Food o.k.?
Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:19
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Hah, yes. No one really eating so wife and I scarfed down most of the shrimp cocktail. Didn't try the sweets.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:23 PM (ju2Fy)

244 I have a 4 gallon tank on a 110 line 20 feet from my bedroom shower - set to 140 degrees and I'm incredibly bored long before it runs out of hot water. The RV stuff is pretty amazing for efficiency and insulation. Ten minutes later it's ready for the next shower. Modular design thanks to me, it would take ten minutes tops to replace, for another $150 bucks. Shut off on water in, water out, pull plug, unscrew fittings, lift off, lift on, screw fittings back on, turn on, plug back in. Annual cost for electricity around a hundred bucks. I get a notice from my utility every six months comparing my electric usage versus 'efficient' neighbors and I kick their asses.
Posted by: Divide by Zero'

Now. Let's do AC/heat.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 03:23 PM (BdMk6)

245 You can develop more pressure using your lungs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:02 PM (tkR6S)

Yup. Although the NG power plants get insane pressures!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 31, 2023 03:24 PM (gSZYf)

246 243 shrimp cocktail
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:23 PM (ju2Fy)

yum

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:24 PM (4UYlo)

247 Naked, coed Twister wasn't a hit?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:19
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Husband's an Interior Designer. I was afraid to fart, let alone play Twister.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:24 PM (ju2Fy)

248 >>I see a lot of people over a certain age still conflate US made major appliances (assuming it's not Mexico now) with quality and in many cases that's just not the case. You have numbskulls assembling crap equipment and parts designed by engineers who, even if they competent (debatable), are overseen by the MBA mafia.

Wolf ranges, built in Wisconsin which is kind of America. Parts.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 31, 2023 03:24 PM (ZLI7S)

249 Posted by: Divide by Zero'

What DbZ doesn't discuss here is that tankless heaters do not heat a volume of water to a certain temperature: they heat incoming water to an increment as it goes through the core (like a car/truck radiator). So, if the incoming water is 40F, your tankless will add 20F to it, solely as an example. The water I get into the house in WI in the winter is barely above freezing. It is COLD. I measured it once it was 45F incoming. So the tankless, as that frigid water is passing through it, is trying to add another 20 degrees to it to get you a 65F shower.
They have their limitations, like electric cars.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:24 PM (OJ1IG)

250 I was at a local hardware store recently and saw an entire display of 'standard' heating elements. I was actually a little surprised that so many people can (and do) do this kind of repair.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

It is pretty much plug and play. I paid an electrician the first time an ignitor went out, and felt stupid when I saw how simple it was. Youtube is full of videos for many repairs.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 03:24 PM (s6UsT)

251 "Naked, coed Twister wasn't a hit?*

It always is at the MoMes.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 03:24 PM (NBVIP)

252 Have car that had one taillight cluster busted and two of the five bulbs busted.

Bought new OEM replacement which came with a wiring harness installed and new bulbs.
Easy to take off the light cluster but after half an hour busting knuckles trying to get the the wiring connector finally relized the lamp holders were intact and removable.

Just replaced the cluster and put old bulb holder from old harness into them. Put new bulbs in as needed.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 31, 2023 03:25 PM (cOq4q)

253 Fire ants caught our house on fire 3 years ago. They built up a mound in the box where the lines are buried and caused the power to surge into our house. Had we not been home it would've burned. Lost appliances, computers, battery backups, surge protectors, outlets and carpet. Duke said act of god instead of lack of maintenance from them.

Posted by: nckate at December 31, 2023 03:25 PM (EPm6B)

254 I think the rest are caused by mice who set up a cozy nest in the warm confines of the homes service panel with incredibly flammable bedding material. Coldest day of winter, all those electrons flowing, mouse house catches fire. Really bad stuff starts happening then.

Check your service panel once in a while during winter. It's usually only four or six screws to pop it off and take a look.
Posted by: Divide by Zero'

In the House? finally thought to remove the panel cover and found it jammed with paper wasp nests.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:26 PM (OJ1IG)

255 I guess this is a FWP.

NBC News
@NBCNews
Universities around the country have started creating entire courses dedicated to studying Taylor Swift's lyricism and impact.

-
She's like Jesus and Einstein rolled into one except better.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 03:26 PM (FVME7)

256 Now I have a hankering for shrimp cocktail. Sigh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:26 PM (V8he0)

257 "Naked, coed Twister wasn't a hit?*

It always is at the MoMes.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

And the strip cribbage tournament that WDS hosted was epic.

God rest her soul.

*Stands up, removes hat*

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:27 PM (qoGsy)

258 That's why they call them fire ants.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 31, 2023 03:27 PM (NBVIP)

259
It always is at the MoMes.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

__________

*slaps hand to mouth*
*runs to bathroom*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 31, 2023 03:27 PM (E8h6R)

260 Duke said act of god instead of lack of maintenance from them.
Posted by: nckate at December 31, 2023 03:25 PM (EPm6B)

Wouldn't fire ants be an act of Satan?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:27 PM (tkR6S)

261 With NG tankless, the trick is to limit the water flow, so you get a kind of pressurized shower with maybe SOME cold mixed in. It takes some doing. Once you have it all dialed in it's grand, endless comfortable showers.
The solution some impatient people call in, is tankless in sequence, where you add 20F + 20F etc.

I'm not entirely sure that is safe and it adds a whole complexity to water pressure.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:28 PM (OJ1IG)

262 243 Food o.k.?
Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:19
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Hah, yes. No one really eating so wife and I scarfed down most of the shrimp cocktail. Didn't try the sweets.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:23 PM (ju2Fy)

++++

I can recall only one holiday party that was horrible. My husband and I were invited to a Christmas party by one of my male co-workers. We went thinking there would be a houseful of other guests. No. Just him, his wife, and two small children. All four of them had dripping colds. Then in comes his in-laws, who apparently hate their son-in-law's guts. Oh, so very uncomfortable. We left as early as was sociably decent.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2023 03:29 PM (CmpAD)

263 She's like Jesus and Einstein rolled into one except better.

The cultish adoration somewhat astounds me. A sign of the times.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:29 PM (V8he0)

264 Now I have a hankering for shrimp cocktail. Sigh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
---------

Got some in the frig. Stop by.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:29 PM (ju2Fy)

265 Spark lighter, available on Amazon for $10, maybe cheaper elsewhere. It's a flint-and-steel sparker, very old-timey.

Posted by: Robert at December 31, 2023 03:31 PM (zvw27)

266 Relevant to the thread

Woodn' Matches
Strike nowhere type.
Mindful 'Head Shop' comic

Posted by: mindful webworker - zipper at December 31, 2023 03:31 PM (HbfzH)

267 256 Now I have a hankering for shrimp cocktail. Sigh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:26 PM (V8he0)

Me, too!

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:31 PM (4UYlo)

268 253 Fire ants caught our house on fire 3 years ago. They built up a mound in the box where the lines are buried and caused the power to surge into our house. Had we not been home it would've burned. Lost appliances, computers, battery backups, surge protectors, outlets and carpet. Duke said act of god instead of lack of maintenance from them.

Posted by: nckate at December 31, 2023 03:25 PM (EPm6B)

man, thats scary!

Posted by: ziggggeeee at December 31, 2023 03:32 PM (AsMdZ)

269 Do jumbo shrimp just work out more than regular shrimp?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:33 PM (V8he0)

270 FWP - Heading out shortly to serve wine for the NYE party for church. Bunch of old white hairs drinking to excess and saying inappropriate things. On the positive side, I should be home by 8:00pm.

In the words of Zombie Flounder - "This is gonna be great!!"

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:33 PM (qoGsy)

271 We left as early as was sociably decent.
Posted by: washrivergal
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45 minutes? That was our goal. However, most of our neighbors are 29+ with one foot in the grave. I think it was their first time out since covid. They wouldn't shut up and move on.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:33 PM (ju2Fy)

272 Taylor Swifties.

"Should’ve Said No," she sang dumbfuckingly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 03:34 PM (FVME7)

273 Do jumbo shrimp just work out more than regular shrimp?
Posted by: Notorious BFD

Yes. Especially if they are on the 'buff' et.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:34 PM (qoGsy)

274 Um.... linked in nic

Woodn' Matches
Strike nowhere type

Posted by: mindful webworker - zipper at December 31, 2023 03:34 PM (HbfzH)

275 Oh, one more, maybe for the ladies (if there are any left). My 1960s-vintage sewing machine has old grease and oil in the bearings, making the motor unable to turn the whole shebang. Some ladies on YT advise using WD-40, which I consider The Devil, but they insist it works well as it acts as a solvent and evaporates well.
Suggestions?
I'm quite sincere.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:34 PM (OJ1IG)

276 Who knew fire ants play with matches?
Wait, isn't that how they became known as Fire Ants?

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 03:34 PM (fwDg9)

277 The solution some impatient people call in, is tankless in sequence, where you add 20F + 20F etc.

I'm not entirely sure that is safe and it adds a whole complexity to water pressure.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:28 PM (OJ1IG)

You can buy electric shower head heaters on Amazon. Made to be hard-wired in to a dedicated breaker, not plugged into the wall like the ones sold in Central America, which work fine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:34 PM (tkR6S)

278 She's like Jesus and Einstsein rolled into one except better.

nicer titties.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 31, 2023 03:35 PM (CnLzB)

279 I thought fire ants were called "fire ants" because their sting makes you feel like your skin is burning.

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:35 PM (4UYlo)

280 Do jumbo shrimp just work out more than regular shrimp?
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Yes. They train on treadmills. It's science.
(I think this was on Rand Paul's festivus list few years back. Study at Duke, maybe.)

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:35 PM (ju2Fy)

281 LenNeal - maybe WD-40 to ungunkify the bearings and gears but add a good lubricant back in after that.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:35 PM (qoGsy)

282
45 minutes? That was our goal. However, most of our neighbors are 29+ with one foot in the grave. I think it was their first time out since covid. They wouldn't shut up and move on.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:33 PM (ju2Fy)

+++

LOL. That's pretty funny. Gotta laugh about it. It's the only way.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2023 03:36 PM (CmpAD)

283 Got some in the frig. Stop by.

Thanks for the offer but I'm guessing you're about a thousand miles away from my AO. Would a USB port transfer be out of the question?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:36 PM (V8he0)

284 >>Who knew fire ants play with matches?
Wait, isn't that how they became known as Fire Ants?

Step on a fire ant anthill and you will find out how they got their name. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 31, 2023 03:36 PM (ZLI7S)

285 The widespread fucked-uppery of gas stoves that is surfacing in this thread is a real eye opener.

--

The tragic part for me is how almost nothing is made to last any longer.

Getting ten years out of an appliance is viewed as some magnificent achievement these days, when a generation ago it would've been an indication that it was a piece of junk. And rightfully so.

Posted by: The Real Nikki Haley - women are born with value, men have to build value at December 31, 2023 03:36 PM (ZAfIi)

286 269 Do jumbo shrimp just work out more than regular shrimp?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:33 PM (V8he0)

Miniature jumbo shrimp, especially.

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:36 PM (4UYlo)

287 You high falutant folks saying to buy an new igniter harness... I'd just look for someone scrapping one and pull em all off that. Ha.

Posted by: Inogame at December 31, 2023 03:37 PM (D/9Qo)

288 My Maytag drier from 1995 - belt broke. Repairman came. Two panel screws front-bottom were rusted and he gave me the long story that he'd have to drill them out and then no guarantee that he'd be able to fit new fasteners. Bullshit, he didn't want to do it. I have American Home Shield and he was going to be paid anyway. So instead they got me a new drier. What a lazy sod.

Posted by: Ciampino - two poles and a string at December 31, 2023 03:37 PM (qfLjt)

289 284 >>Who knew fire ants play with matches?
Wait, isn't that how they became known as Fire Ants?

Step on a fire ant anthill and you will find out how they got their name. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 31, 2023 03:36 PM (ZLI7S)

I guess they could also build homes that cut into electrical current?

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:37 PM (4UYlo)

290 Some ladies on YT advise using WD-40

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You sorta answer your own question there.

Posted by: The Real Nikki Haley - women are born with value, men have to build value at December 31, 2023 03:37 PM (ZAfIi)

291 She's like Jesus and Einstein rolled into one except better.

The cultish adoration somewhat astounds me. A sign of the times.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:29 PM (V8he0)

If I was Taylor Swift, this would scare the shit out of me.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 03:38 PM (BdMk6)

292 LenNeal - maybe WD-40 to ungunkify the bearings and gears but add a good lubricant back in after that.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 31, 2023 03:35 PM (qoGsy)

It dilutes and remobilizes the old oil, which helps, after a fashion.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:38 PM (tkR6S)

293 Get a litter box with an enclosing cover.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 31, 2023 03:39 PM (XMwZJ)

294
I think I remember you. Yes, your setup works. There was some discussion last time about where exactly you live and what your electric costs actually are. I live in WI and your setup is unlikely to save me dime one.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:18 PM

Your plumber will have an idea what is best for you, your electrician will have an idea what is best for you, your gas supplier will have an idea what is best for you. None of them will agree. I know what is best for me and how to install it safely and for the maximum in energy efficiency.

It's nice that you have natural gas. That is not now nor will it ever be an option for me, no matter how many million dollars homes are on my street. So I have to settle for second place. Some huge 220 volt electric water heater 100 feet of uninsulated copper pipe away from my bathroom is not a reasonable solution.

We're never going back to the country we once had. I have only the slimmest of hopes that can happen and am planning accordingly.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 31, 2023 03:39 PM (3qE2b)

295 You can buy electric shower head heaters on Amazon. Made to be hard-wired in to a dedicated breaker, not plugged into the wall like the ones sold in Central America, which work fine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

My example is exactly that, an example, I have mine dialed in so it works quite well, but it is a single-point, so one cannot say, wash dishes in the kitchen and take a shower at the same time. Mine has a series of valves arranged like steam heat in a factory so it works as desired. I'm just saying that the electric tankless aren't as flexible, in my opinion.
Also, I do not generally take baths generally, but showers, so am not sure how that application would work out.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:39 PM (OJ1IG)

296 275 Oh, one more, maybe for the ladies (if there are any left). My 1960s-vintage sewing machine has old grease and oil in the bearings, making the motor unable to turn the whole shebang. Some ladies on YT advise using WD-40, which I consider The Devil, but they insist it works well as it acts as a solvent and evaporates well.
Suggestions?
I'm quite sincere.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:34 PM (OJ1IG)

Sewing-machine oil is its own thing.

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:40 PM (4UYlo)

297 My 1960s-vintage sewing machine has old grease and oil in the bearings, making the motor unable to turn the whole shebang. Some ladies on YT advise using WD-40, which I consider The Devil, but they insist it works well as it acts as a solvent and evaporates well.
Suggestions?
I'm quite sincere.
Posted by: LenNeal

I recall my father having to clean a sewing machine. He used a solvent and a small brush to clean out the grease, then lightly applied new grease. It was a painstaking job.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 31, 2023 03:40 PM (s6UsT)

298
Piece of dry spaghetti,
(for safe distancing),
light w/Paper Match.
Seen this technique,
all my life.

Posted by: zigzag at December 31, 2023 03:40 PM (vguSL)

299
The front yard (if you're Native American).
Posted by: nurse ratched

Or the moon, if you are Navajo

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 31, 2023 03:40 PM (8Z5Bd)

300 Your plumber will have an idea what is best for you, your electrician will have an idea what is best for you, your gas supplier will have an idea what is best for you. None of them will agree. I know what is best for me and how to install it safely and for the maximum in energy efficiency. It's nice that you have natural gas. That is not now nor will it ever be an option for me'

Who are these 'experts' of whom you speak? I did my own work.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:40 PM (OJ1IG)

301 296 275 Oh, one more, maybe for the ladies (if there are any left). My 1960s-vintage sewing machine has old grease and oil in the bearings, making the motor unable to turn the whole shebang. Some ladies on YT advise using WD-40, which I consider The Devil, but they insist it works well as it acts as a solvent and evaporates well.
Suggestions?
I'm quite sincere.
Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:34 PM (OJ1IG)

Sewing-machine oil is its own thing.
Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:40 PM (4UYlo)

... and, on the other hand, I've used sewing-machine oil to grease squeaky door hinges!

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:41 PM (4UYlo)

302 No more manly striking the match on your jeans or with your thumb.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 31, 2023 02:25 PM (HO/bY)

Or on your buddy's face. Hilarity usually ensued.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at December 31, 2023 03:41 PM (iODuv)

303 It dilutes and remobilizes the old oil, which helps, after a fashion.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

I'm looking for something a little less extreme than my usual go-tos like PB Blaster and torches.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:41 PM (OJ1IG)

304 I bet gun oil and sewing machine oil are pretty closely related.

Posted by: The Real Nikki Haley - women are born with value, men have to build value at December 31, 2023 03:42 PM (ZAfIi)

305 LOL. That's pretty funny. Gotta laugh about it. It's the only way.
Posted by: washrivergal
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We did. It got better when miffed old gal told wife she'd thought we'd moved out since we didn't recognize her husband's death in 2020. We were not aware due wife being pretty much in and out of hospital in 2019 & 2020 due to cancer. Old gal lightened up as she was not aware of that.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:42 PM (ju2Fy)

306 NBC News
@NBCNews
Universities around the country have started creating entire courses dedicated to studying Taylor Swift's lyricism and impact.

Lyricism ? LOL... My boyfriend dumped me or I dumped him... Whiny voice, whiny voice

Posted by: It's me donna at December 31, 2023 03:42 PM (n2vyf)

307 nicer titties.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 31, 2023 03:35 PM (CnLzB)

She is small breasted, which is fine, but she is sort of gawky and weird looking. Sort of like a ferret.

Her make up team and fashion team works hard.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...liberal esthete at December 31, 2023 03:43 PM (gSZYf)

308 The stovetop in my horse trailer LQ has always needed to be lit externally. I hang on to the grill starters after they are out of fluid because usually just the spark is sufficient to light the propane burner.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 31, 2023 02:06 PM (3cGpq)

I have a propane stove for my outdoors kitchen and finally I found a flint sparker from a acetylene welding rig that I hang on it to start it when I want to use it.

I think it adds a touch of class to the joint.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 31, 2023 03:44 PM (D7oie)

309 I can't forget the side by side pictures of Taylor swift and napoleon dynamite. Some people shouldn't have bangs.

Posted by: nckate at December 31, 2023 03:44 PM (EPm6B)

310 @NBCNews
Universities around the country have started creating entire courses dedicated to studying Taylor Swift's lyricism and impact.

-

All about the student loan checks. They couldn't care less about anything else.

Posted by: The Real Nikki Haley - women are born with value, men have to build value at December 31, 2023 03:45 PM (ZAfIi)

311
We did. It got better when miffed old gal told wife she'd thought we'd moved out since we didn't recognize her husband's death in 2020. We were not aware due wife being pretty much in and out of hospital in 2019 & 2020 due to cancer. Old gal lightened up as she was not aware of that.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:42 PM (ju2Fy)

+++++
Wow. What a night.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2023 03:45 PM (CmpAD)

312 Would a USB port transfer be out of the question?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:36
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Dang. If only I had gotten 50 count bag of shrimp. Sorry. I got the buff ones. 30 count.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:45 PM (ju2Fy)

313 Well, the sewing machine is a very simple industrial type made for sewing canvas, and I didn't use it for maybe 5-6 years and whatever was in there didn't seize, just... gunked the whole mess up so the motor is fine but the shaft moves like it's stuck in, well, old grease. I bought it used and it's always been a bit slow and sticky, just now it's really stuck.

I just need some idea of how to flush out the old hardened stuff, get everything moving/rotating, then maybe think about taking it all apart. Without doing what I usually do with machines, which is soak everything down and maybe light it on fire.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:46 PM (OJ1IG)

314 103 I do have a very FWP: what does anyone else do to cut down on dust from the cat's litter box? I have The Old Cat and am loathe to change the litter type.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 02:35 PM (OJ1IG)
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I'll get back to you when my elder is home. She purchases one from Rural King for the rescue cats. Dust-free I believe.

Posted by: Ciampino - Litter at December 31, 2023 03:46 PM (qfLjt)

315 The electric shower heater I saw in Costa Rica was made in Brazil, I think. Just a plain-looking plastic shower head with a thick 2-wire cord coming out of it, plugged into a wall socket near the shower. No switch was fitted. Temperature was a function of flow. Low flow=hot water, high flow=tepid water. I think it operated on the principle of electrolysis, pass current through the water, and it gets hot. Since the most direct path to ground was the supply line, there was really no shock hazard.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:46 PM (tkR6S)

316 She is small breasted, which is fine, but she is sort of gawky and weird looking. Sort of like a ferret.

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Ahh, Pat Benatar syndrome.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 03:47 PM (FVME7)

317
Now. Let's do AC/heat.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 03:23 PM

Yeah, not gonna happen. Put on a sweater as Jimmah Carter suggested. Then long johns, then a couple more sweaters. Then an overcoat. Winter in SE PA is 90 days. Not like some parts of the country where it's six months.

We're prolly not even gonna get snow this winter for the second year in a row.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 31, 2023 03:48 PM (3qE2b)

318 Dang. If only I had gotten 50 count bag of shrimp. Sorry. I got the buff ones. 30 count.

Ah, another FWP.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:49 PM (V8he0)

319 263 She's like Jesus and Einstein rolled into one except better.

The cultish adoration somewhat astounds me. A sign of the times.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:29 PM (V8he0)

"Cultish" put me in mind of "coltish," which is kinda what Taylor Swift is.

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:49 PM (4UYlo)

320 314
LenNeal, it's Feline Pine from Rural King. Not cheap but for one cat it's easily affordable.

Posted by: Ciampino - Litter fitter at December 31, 2023 03:49 PM (qfLjt)

321 Shecky Greene, legendary standup comedian who dominated the Las Vegas scene for decades, has died at age 97.

Shecky Greene, Legendary Las Vegas Headliner, Dies at 97
The comedian, a regular on Carson's 'Tonight Show,' pioneered the hotel lounge act as he battled stage fright, alcoholism and prescription-drug abuse during his career.
BY MIKE BARNES; The Hollywood Reporter; DECEMBER 31, 2023 9:29AM
http://tinyurl.com/3b2y6de2

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 31, 2023 03:50 PM (2yu8s)

322 312 Would a USB port transfer be out of the question?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 31, 2023 03:36
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Dang. If only I had gotten 50 count bag of shrimp. Sorry. I got the buff ones. 30 count.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 31, 2023 03:45 PM (ju2Fy)

GIANT SHRIMP

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:50 PM (4UYlo)

323 >>We're prolly not even gonna get snow this winter for the second year in a row.

The Farmer's Almanac would suggest you not taunt the snow god.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 31, 2023 03:51 PM (ZLI7S)

324 The stovetop in my horse trailer LQ has always needed to be lit externally. I hang on to the grill starters after they are out of fluid because usually just the spark is sufficient to light the propane burner.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 31, 2023 02:06 PM (3cGpq)

Does it have a window where the horses look in and see what you're cooking or watch tv with you?

That would be cool.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 03:51 PM (BdMk6)

325 Shoot-a-lite flint sparker. I have used them, work great:

http://tinyurl.com/pwebeu2v

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:52 PM (tkR6S)

326 Just don't buy XXX shrimp for a family dinner.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 03:52 PM (FVME7)

327 I appreciate the suggestions today. The cat box business is just an ongoing Thing. A lot of it is The Cats who just scratch all over in the box, which is a huge storage container with a top on it. They're just messy and stir up a cloud of dust when they are in there.

The stove, they have become like cars. But unlike cars they can be piped if you really want to.

Tankless water heaters, they're a bit of a learning curve/dark art but I don't intend to ever return to a tank.

And Thanks for the suggestions on the sewing machine. I'll try some very low viscosity 'lubricant' like WD-40 or some such and soak it a little and see if it gets better, knowing it's not a replacement for a real repack.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 03:53 PM (OJ1IG)

328 The electric shower heater I saw in Costa Rica was made in Brazil, I think. Just a plain-looking plastic shower head with a thick 2-wire cord coming out of it, plugged into a wall socket near the shower. No switch was fitted. Temperature was a function of flow. Low flow=hot water, high flow=tepid water. I think it operated on the principle of electrolysis, pass current through the water, and it gets hot. Since the most direct path to ground was the supply line, there was really no shock hazard.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:46 PM (tkR6S)

Possibly, there are some claims that the AC creates a standing wave or a harmony with the water to heat it, I think your explanation is closer. They used them in Colombia in the 80's because not everyone had a hot water heater, even in Bogotá

One of them is the Dumas effect. Here is a short discussion of types of patents using the concept by a mad English chemist

http://tinyurl.com/2r9wmv4e

Posted by: Kindltot at December 31, 2023 03:54 PM (D7oie)

329 Since the most direct path to ground was the supply line, there was really no shock hazard.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 03:46 PM (tkR6S)

Yeah.......probably.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 31, 2023 03:54 PM (BdMk6)

330 326 Just don't buy XXX shrimp for a family dinner.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 03:52 PM (FVME7)

heh

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:56 PM (4UYlo)

331 330 326 Just don't buy XXX shrimp for a family dinner.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at December 31, 2023 03:52 PM (FVME7)

heh
Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:56 PM (4UYlo)

... like those sexy, flirtatious brine shrimp they advertised in the comic books.

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 03:57 PM (4UYlo)

332
And to the 'It only heats water to 140 degrees?' argument. Yeah, because your skin really likes shower water temp at 104 degrees temperature. Above that bad things happen. So calculate, as I have, how many degrees of 140 degree hot water tempered with 50+ degrees well water will last in the shower. But it is very close to where it is needed and every inch of copper is insulated.

The 'acid test'? My wife loves the system. Never one gripe.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 31, 2023 03:57 PM (3qE2b)

333 Low flow=hot water, high flow=tepid water. I think it operated on the principle of electrolysis, pass current through the water, and it gets hot. Since the most direct path to ground was the supply line, there was really no shock hazard.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

My Bosch 125B tankless works with no plug-in: it has a piezio-electric switch that turns on the gas depending on flow. The control unit, when I took it apart, is in fact much like a carburetor but with water instead of fuel. It's a cool design.
I'll grab one of those and see what it does.

Posted by: LenNeal says ZZZT at December 31, 2023 03:57 PM (OJ1IG)

334 The 'acid test'? My wife... Never one gripe.
Posted by: Divide by Zero'

BEHOLD! the biggest lie ever told on AoS.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 04:00 PM (OJ1IG)

335 333 it has a piezio-electric switch that turns on the gas depending on flow
Posted by: LenNeal says ZZZT at December 31, 2023 03:57 PM (OJ1IG)

I looked up "piezo" in my desktop dictionary and I got:

piezo |pīˈēzō, pēˈāzō|
adjective
piezoelectric.

(Thanks so much, desktop dictionary.)

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 04:01 PM (4UYlo)

336 food's up

Posted by: m at December 31, 2023 04:01 PM (4UYlo)

337 We haz a FOODIE NOODIE

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2023 04:01 PM (fwDg9)

338 One of them is the Dumas effect. Here is a short discussion of types of patents using the concept by a mad English chemist

http://tinyurl.com/2r9wmv4e

Posted by: Kindltot at December 31, 2023 03:54 PM (D7oie)

Is there an English translation?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2023 04:02 PM (tkR6S)

339 The electric shower heater I saw in Costa Rica was made in Brazil, I think. Just a plain-looking plastic shower head with a thick 2-wire cord coming out of it
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

The average water temperature in Costa Rica to the outlet is over 80F degrees. In winter my water can go as low as 45F.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 04:05 PM (OJ1IG)

340 To beat a dead horse, tankless and water-flow water heaters do not heat water to any specific temperature like a tank, they heat incoming water to a specific degree over what it is, coming in. That can be 10, 20, 40 degrees depending on what you want to spend in energy to heat up that water.

If the incoming water is already heated in a solar tube system (common in Latin America) to 100F than it's fine; if, like me, your water incoming is 45F (documented) you are NOT getting a 'hot shower', ever. That is my point. And 4 gallons?
A 4-gallon shower? And The Wifey complains Not?
Do explain.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 04:12 PM (OJ1IG)

341 One of them is the Dumas effect. Here is a short discussion of types of patents using the concept by a mad English chemist

http://tinyurl.com/2r9wmv4e

Posted by: Kindltot at December 31, 2023 03:54 PM (D7oie)
__________________

"Resonate the water at 50 Hz" Huh? WTF? That makes zero sense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 31, 2023 04:22 PM (gfkyL)

342 The Bosch 1600P water heater (very similar to the 125B) will raise the water temperature 90F @ 2 gal/min, which is plenty for a single use application (i.e., one shower at a time). My incoming water temp is 55F in the winter, and my shower is plenty hot enough (I have to add a little cold water to be non-scalding).

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 31, 2023 04:27 PM (XMwZJ)

343 The Bosch 1600P water heater (very similar to the 125B)
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent'

"Unavailable since December 19, 2011"

Bosch 125B:

"2006"

So, what should we talk about around the cracker barrel now, old timer? How our muskets are shooting?

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 04:47 PM (OJ1IG)

344 My point is the NG fireball of the Bosch 125B WILL raise a 45F feed to scalding and any electric short of 440 will not.

117,000 Btu input for yours, that's Holy Shit level for a lot of people and it's going into a condensor/radiator smaller than the average automobile.

Max GPM @ 45°F Rise: 4.7
Max GPM @ 100°F Rise: 2.0

There it is. It's the rise. Once you get that right it's awesome sauce! but most people cannot do it.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 04:52 PM (OJ1IG)

345 I think I can make a tankless hot water heater out of an old burner and a truck radiator but it would take a person willing to keep an eye on it, which the vast majority of people flatly won't do.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 04:54 PM (OJ1IG)

346 AOP's reference to Costa Rica with some shower head attachment is nonsense. He should know better.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 04:56 PM (OJ1IG)

347 My everyday cooking is on a Chambers Model 15-B from the 1940's. It lights from pilots, but a match will do. It has features that you can't buy on stoves today like "Cooking with the gas turned off."

https://tinyurl.com/ykferfk2

Posted by: Dino58 at December 31, 2023 04:56 PM (LVPff)

348 This is why I shop at used-appliance shops ... they'll usually have the stuff you need for reasonable when nobody else knows what you're talking about. Better, they'll usually also have a 'geezer' who can tell you the 'secret sauce' way to put it in quickly and effectively. The Salvation Army salvage yard is a good backup, too.

Posted by: Dr_No at December 31, 2023 04:58 PM (ayRl+)

349 Oh, there is also with tankless the issue of backflow: there CANNOT be any mix into the feed. There can be zero leaks into the Hot feed from the Cold side or it confuses the sensors whether analog or electronic.
Your faucets, etc, must be in tip-top shape and cannot bleed into the other side through a tap.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 04:59 PM (OJ1IG)

350
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Posted by: Dino58'

Next time I see something like that that seems usable I'm grabbing it and forgetting the usual thought of 'Well, where will I put it?"

Posted by: LenNeal at December 31, 2023 05:01 PM (OJ1IG)

351 Any of the automotive parts cleaners will work on sewing machines. Do not remember the brand we used in class. Kerosene will work too. Be advised that taking pictures before may not be helpful in getting the clean parts back together.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 31, 2023 05:36 PM (L8hCM)

352 271 It’s on both, it’s on the rose as well. Their are several French Champagne that have the Seal on the Bottles you just have to look

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 31, 2023 06:05 PM (dKiJG)

Thanks. I'll look from now on. The Sunday Food Thread is always educational.

Posted by: jix at December 31, 2023 06:18 PM (VghtP)

353 Oops! Wrong thread. My apologies.

Posted by: jix at December 31, 2023 06:21 PM (VghtP)

354 eBay reconditioned parts. I have fixed stoves and washing machines with parts ordered off of eBay.
Repair man said he couldn’t fix the gas stove, I got a reconditioned motherboard off of eBay for $75 and it has worked like a charm for 3 years now.
Just use a reputable dealer.

Posted by: 42 at December 31, 2023 06:40 PM (UeYtn)

355 I cooked in New York City for decades on a couple of old basic gas stoves. One you would like the burners with a match and the other one had two pilot lights for the stove top burners and another pilot light for the oven that we're always on. If they went off, you just lit a match and approach the stove and touched it to the pilot light.

These things were completely Bulletproof and there were no parts to crap out on you and no damn electricity involved whatsoever. I would give my eyeteeth to have either one of those back even though they were pretty small but I had perfect control of my heat and my flames! I hate these blasted igniters.

Posted by: Beverly at December 31, 2023 08:06 PM (Epeb0)

356 Back to messed-up stoves - need I suggest matches?

Posted by: Surellin at December 31, 2023 08:10 PM (j+Y10)

357 “Raises the question” not “begs the question”

Posted by: Robert Ernest at January 01, 2024 08:02 AM (5Kpkp)

358 Regarding the stove. I had the same problem with my new Empava cook top. one of the sparker electrodes was broken. I sent them a picture and they sent me a new replacement cook top.

Posted by: Kaiju66 at January 01, 2024 09:15 AM (OuFlM)

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