The Criminal Christopher Wray Asks Congress to Renew the 702 Spying Authority the FBI Abused During Russiagate, But Refuses to Answer Any Questions About FBI Corruption

Give us the power to continue spying on American political opponents of the Democrat Party, or else we'll blame you when the terrorists we should be surveilling strike.

FBI Director Christopher Wray pleaded with lawmakers on Tuesday to continue funding a controversial surveillance tool of the U.S. government.
Wray testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday morning. In his opening remarks, he urged Congress to reauthorize Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which has been both credited with preventing terror attacks on U.S. soil and accused of being a vehicle for spying on U.S. citizens.
The law lets the government keep tabs on specific foreign nationals outside the country without first obtaining a warrant to do so, even if the party on the other side of those communications is an American on U.S. soil. The program will expire at the end of this year if not reauthorized by Congress.
"The expiration of our 702 authorities would be devastating to the FBI's ability to protect Americans," Wray told Senate lawmakers.
He said the FBI is aware of a "steady drumbeat" of calls for attacks by foreign terrorist organizations since Hamas massacred more than 1,200 Israelis on Oct. 7. Section 702, Wray argued, is an "indispensable" tool to combat terror threats by allowing the government "to stay a step ahead of foreign actors located outside the United States who pose a threat to national security."
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Wray testified that stripping the FBI of its 702 surveillance powers would be akin to "unilateral disarmament" in the face of growing threats from Iran and China.
However, critics on the right and left claim the program encroaches on Americans' civil liberties, specifically if the FBI conducts warrantless surveillance on communications between Americans and foreign nationals.
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Wray argued against any attempt by lawmakers to restrict the FBI's surveillance authority, which he compared to the "pre-9/11-style wall" that prevented U.S. intelligence agencies from sharing information that could have prevented the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.
"If that's the path chosen, what are we going to say to the family whose loved one's care was sabotaged when a hospital was taken offline by a foreign adversary and the FBI wasn't able to stop the cyber attack? What's the justification for not using every lawful tool to stop China from stealing our technology and undermining our freedoms? Because I can assure you the PRC is not holding back or tying its own hands behind its back," he said.

Christopher Wray insists that he has new "policies" that will prevent the same FOIA abuses as we saw in Russiagate -- but refuses to tell the Senate what these policies are, and refuses to tell the Senate if any of those abusing the system previously have been disciplined or fired. The rest of the clip is about whether the FBI's new "policies" would have stopped any of the previous abuses. Mike Lee insists they would not have stopped previous abuses, and Wray admits several times these invasions of privacy would be permitted under the new "policies."

So what kind of corrective is this? It's not a corrective. It's not intended to be. It's not intended to stop any of the past abuses, because the FBI wants to continue those abuses. They just want to pass a meaningless change and say "There we fixed it. Let us spy on the Democrat Party's political opponents in peace."

Ted Cruz blew up at Christopher Wray for refusing to answer why the FBI had refused to obtain the GPS data which would determine if Joe Biden was in fact next to Hunter Biden when Hunter Biden shook down his Chinese partners, telling him "My father is sitting right next to me" and will insure that you will regret not giving me my $10 million.

Ted Cruz unleashes a fiery onslaught on FBI director Christopher Wray.🔥🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/yuoapw4jJC
— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) December 5, 2023

Cruz's full time here:

NEW — Sen. Ted Cruz grills FBI Director Chris Wray for concealing the Biden family's crimes despite clear evidence of unregistered foreign lobbying, money laundering, and bribery.

Cruz points to a damning text as "direct evidence," indicating Joe Biden's direct involvement in… pic.twitter.com/KIxaepZgDe
— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) December 5, 2023

Christopher Wray says that no one who targeted Catholics did so "in bad faith" and some of them were Cathoics so they get a pass in targeting other Catholics and no, no one's been fired.

So how many people were fired for targeting Catholics at the FBI? Zero. But don’t worry: Chris Wray says they were “admonished” and got a “note in their file.” I’m sure America’s 60 million Catholics feel much better pic.twitter.com/k7AUkQgiQo
— Josh Hawley (@HawleyMO) December 5, 2023

Oh, Wray added that there was a little note added to their files.

Never a firing -- you can't fire a government bureaucrat! Ever! These people are entitled to their precious careers no matter what they do!

Despite the fact that the FBI has long ago confirmed the veracity of Hunter Biden's laptop, Christopher Wray continues refusing to acknowledge that it's real. He claims, again, that it's an "ongoing investigation" and cannot say anything about it -- despite FBI personnel previously falsely claiming the laptop was fake.

SENATOR KENNEDY: "Why didn't the FBI just say, hey, the laptop's real?!"

FBI DIRECTOR WRAY: "We have to be very careful about what we can say, especially in the middle of an election season..." pic.twitter.com/jRAUdrh56g
— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) December 5, 2023

Over in the House, Byron Donald recapped some of the prior news about Biden family members receiving payoffs, then immediately wiring 10% to the Big Guy.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:31 PM

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1 I'll go fetch 'em.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 05, 2023 05:32 PM (qPw5n)

2 Not until all their dirty secrets are outed and they're either sitting at the bottom of the sea or in a super-max.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:32 PM (ynpvh)

3 I already dun that, Grumpy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:32 PM (ynpvh)

4 I see that Jim, thank you!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 05, 2023 05:33 PM (qPw5n)

5 But Refuses to Answer Any Questions About FBI Corruption
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Some ongoing investigation, somwhere....

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:33 PM (krQz2)

6 4 I see that Jim, thank you!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 05, 2023 05:33 PM (qPw5n)

Yeah, that a reading the post cost me #1. Congrats!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:33 PM (ynpvh)

7 I like Daniels

Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2023 05:34 PM (n2vyf)

8
This is easy, GOP:
a firm and unanimous "NO". Choose:

Prove yourselves, squishes

- or -

Prove yourselves squishes

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2023 05:34 PM (xG4kz)

9 Yeah, that a reading the post cost me #1. Congrats!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:33 PM (ynpvh)
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Obligatory:

Rookie mistake.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:35 PM (krQz2)

10 "We have to be very careful about what we can say, ABOUT DEMOCRATS, especially in the middle of an election season..."

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2023 05:35 PM (vFG9F)

11 So how many people were fired for targeting Catholics at the FBI? Zero. But don't worry: Chris Wray says they were "admonished" and got a note in their file.

...a note commending them on their work.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:35 PM (ynpvh)

12 I repeat; Dissolve the alphabet agencies. Too corrupt to save.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 05, 2023 05:35 PM (pohLc)

13 The FBI just got a brand new building. I don't care what questions the doofuses in Congress ask, the FBI has already been rewarded for their hostility toward the American people.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 05:36 PM (tT6L1)

14 "Wray testified that stripping the FBI of its 702 surveillance powers would be akin to "unilateral disarmament" in the face of growing threats from Iran and China."

Have they.. I don't know... considered not importing Iranian and Chinese citizens into the US and then giving them access to sensitive US installations?

That might do more to prevent threats from Iran and China than spying on them (and all the US citizens they come in contact with) after they get here.

Y'know, if we're talking practical solutions.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 05, 2023 05:36 PM (ou9hh)

15 The Criminal Christopher Wray Asks Congress to Renew the 702 Spying Authority the FBI Abused During Russiagate

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Done and done.

Please don't tell anyone about the boy-parties. Please.

Posted by: GOP Caucus at December 05, 2023 05:36 PM (0FoWg)

16 Some of our Christmas and Easter Catholics oppressed Traditionalist Catholics, so no harm no foul.

Posted by: CWrayzie at December 05, 2023 05:36 PM (R38qh)

17 13 The FBI just got a brand new building. I don't care what questions the doofuses in Congress ask, the FBI has already been rewarded for their hostility toward the American people.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 05:36 PM (tT6L1)

put bars on all the windows and exits and lock them in.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:36 PM (ynpvh)

18 7 I like Daniels
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2023 05:34 PM (n2vyf)

Donalds not Daniels

Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2023 05:37 PM (n2vyf)

19 Random Senator: Director Wray, what is you opinion of former Director Hoover?
Wray? *

Posted by: RedRiverTed at December 05, 2023 05:37 PM (jJ36e)

20 Just who is conducting this "ongoing investigation"? Are they locked in a dungeon somewhere investigating their bellybutton?

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2023 05:37 PM (vFG9F)

21 Remove all power and authority from the FBI.
They have proven they cannot be trusted with it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 05:38 PM (xcxpd)

22 The sad part is, the renewal will probably happen, because the government never willingly gives up any power it has taken unto itself, legitimately or otherwise. Even if they claim to have given it up as beyond their legitimate reach, it creeps back in years later in another form when people aren't watching.

This is... as the left is far too fond of saying, "not sustainable".

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 05, 2023 05:38 PM (qPw5n)

23 In a time of heightened threat to domestic security everywhere, it's important NOT to control your borders.

That's why you're so credible, Wray. Because you're telling people that the threat is heightened and you're not even doing the basics of security of any other country.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:38 PM (krQz2)

24 We have to be very careful about what we can say, especially in the middle of an election season...

But we're totally straight shooters who follow the facts wherever they lead...

In between picking and choosing what information we release during election season.

Posted by: CWrayzie at December 05, 2023 05:38 PM (R38qh)

25 14 "Wray testified that stripping the FBI of its 702 surveillance powers would be akin to "unilateral disarmament" in the face of growing threats from Iran and China."

Have they.. I don't know... considered not importing Iranian and Chinese citizens into the US and then giving them access to sensitive US installations?

That might do more to prevent threats from Iran and China than spying on them (and all the US citizens they come in contact with) after they get here.

Y'know, if we're talking practical solutions.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 05, 2023 05:36 PM (ou9hh)

Very impractical; how is Hunter going to get his Chinese money to the Big Guy?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:38 PM (ynpvh)

26 I'll say it again. The next Republican president, after getting undercovers and informants to safety, should dump the entire FBI and DOJ databases on to the web. Nuke it from orbit just to be sure, so to speak

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 05, 2023 05:38 PM (wukIh)

27 “FBI Director Christopher Wray pleaded with lawmakers on Tuesday to continue funding a controversial surveillance tool of the U.S. government.
Wray.”

Funding? Renewing? What’s really going on here?

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 05, 2023 05:39 PM (/uzcM)

28 I had a government job guess I shudda kept it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2023 05:39 PM (RIvkX)

29 "Please don't tell anyone about the boy-parties. Please.
Posted by: GOP Caucus"

Exactly. The whole lot of them are bound by their recorded antics curated by the deep state.

Posted by: fd at December 05, 2023 05:39 PM (vFG9F)

30 "The expiration of our 702 authorities would be devastating to the FBI's ability to protect Americans," Wray told Senate lawmakers.

——

Wray is in what I like to call the Jim Cramer Club of people who so often say untrue things that I am inclined to reflexively believe the opposite of what he says by default.

So the fact that he wants this so badly is enough for me that he should not get it.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at December 05, 2023 05:39 PM (fKIdX)

31 Hopefully, "no"

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 05:40 PM (X0I7i)

32 > Have they.. I don't know... considered not importing Iranian and Chinese citizens into the US and then giving them access to sensitive US installations?

Installations? Every top Democrat has a damn Iranian or Chinese minder in their personal circle.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2023 05:40 PM (R38qh)

33 12 I repeat; Dissolve the alphabet agencies. Too corrupt to save.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 05, 2023 05:35 PM (pohLc)

Endorsed

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 05:40 PM (xcxpd)

34 Incidently, Steve Friend on X gave the game away: He says that *everybody* in the FIB pretends that they are working on the highest priority threat because that's a sort of status, and nobody wants to be seen as working on a lower priority case.

So, it's a scam.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:40 PM (krQz2)

35 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2023 05:40 PM (T4tVD)

36 FBI statistics predict that parents at local school board meetings are expected to transition from "concerned" to "peeved" in the coming year, and the FBI needs all available resources to cope with this threat to the very heart of the Republic.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2023 05:40 PM (Gsmsg)

37 People behind Crissy Wray wearing Ashli Babbit t-shirts.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 05, 2023 05:40 PM (bqazj)

38 I expect Section 702 to not only be reauthorized, but expanded even further - on account of stopping "the terrorism" and it's the patriotic thing to do and you hate America if you actually want to preserve your Rights.

When Congress starts breaking the FBI apart, then I'll pay more attention to the Kabuki.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 05, 2023 05:41 PM (aXxgO)

39
Ayih

Posted by: four seasons at December 05, 2023 05:41 PM (ichPI)

40 Take it from me, the FBI is doing a bang-up job!

Posted by: Stephen Hatfill at December 05, 2023 05:41 PM (Gsmsg)

41 Naturally, The GOP will fold on the funding because they're afraid of being accused of selling out American security by the MSM.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 05:41 PM (tT6L1)

42 FIB knew the whole time that functionally there was ample Kompromat on Han'Tur and by extrension Zhou Bai-Dan...

hell they probably conspired with the Chinese to generate it.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 05:41 PM (X0I7i)

43 “FBI Director Christopher Wray pleaded with lawmakers on Tuesday to continue funding a controversial surveillance tool of the U.S. government.
Wray.”

Funding? Renewing? What’s really going on here?
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 05, 2023 05:39 PM (/uzcM)
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Wait. This is still DC, isn't it?!

Fuckin' FINANCE IT!

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:42 PM (krQz2)

44 Some ongoing investigation, somwhere....

They're still investigating where the cocaine in the white house came from. It's a mystery!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2023 05:42 PM (iDxGz)

45 23 In a time of heightened threat to domestic security everywhere, it's important NOT to control your borders.

That's why you're so credible, Wray. Because you're telling people that the threat is heightened and you're not even doing the basics of security of any other country.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:38 PM (krQz2)

Shaking down grannies like the Airport Security in Airplane!, while letting the terrorists by.
https://youtu.be/Kf3bw8KEZ44

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:42 PM (ynpvh)

46 So, um, how's the investigation going on the millions of illegals being waived through? Any thoughts on that?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 05, 2023 05:42 PM (aXxgO)

47 > Just who is conducting this "ongoing investigation"? Are they locked in a dungeon somewhere investigating their bellybutton?

Remember in The Dark Knight when the fat, lazy cop calls attention to his "ongoing investigation" into the identity of Batman? The investigation board has a picture of Elvis Presley, Bigfoot, and Abraham Lincoln.

It's like that, but real life.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2023 05:42 PM (R38qh)

48 If Ted Cruz ever chews me out, I will assume that I will be getting promoted and living out my life-goals.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 05, 2023 05:43 PM (44ww/)

49 Uncommon Knowledge discussion with two China realists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMRYvl2Jefg

Sobering stuff.

Posted by: Admission Officer at December 05, 2023 05:43 PM (d0fsD)

50 Wray testified that stripping the FBI of its 702 surveillance powers would be akin to "unilateral disarmament" in the face of growing threats from Iran and China.

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That's interesting.

Russia isn't mentioned.

Posted by: Nikki Haley at December 05, 2023 05:43 PM (9Wrck)

51 38 I expect Section 702 to not only be reauthorized, but expanded even further - on account of stopping "the terrorism" and it's the patriotic thing to do and you hate America if you actually want to preserve your Rights.

You wouldn't want a 10/7 to happen here.

Posted by: Threatens government that employees people who cheered on 10/7 at December 05, 2023 05:43 PM (ttzpt)

52 Listen, the only power congress has is in legislation and most directly, funding.

These hearings are simply grand exhibitions of masturbation to placate the masses.

FBI is still getting a brand spanking new facility and everyone involved in the psychodrama and treason over the last 8 years is getting off scottfree.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2023 05:43 PM (XV/Pl)

53 I really dislike that duck faced fuck. Imagine how dirty Wray is. Just following orders is not going to cut it.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 05, 2023 05:44 PM (Z8Yh2)

54 Just who is conducting this "ongoing investigation"? Are they locked in a dungeon somewhere investigating their bellybutton?
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They're like Motel-6.

Only their slogan is "We'll keep a folio open."

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:44 PM (krQz2)

55 53 I really dislike that duck faced fuck. Imagine how dirty Wray is. Just following orders is not going to cut it.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 05, 2023 05:44 PM (Z8Yh2)

He'll arrest TWICE the number of J6 suspects!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:45 PM (ynpvh)

56 Pleaded for continued funding while understanding mistakes were made and pinky swearing it won't happen again.

My thoughts on Wray I will keep to myself.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 05:45 PM (tT6L1)

57 52 Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2023 05:43 PM (XV/Pl)

They are literally engaged in security work by Munchausen by Proxy....

they are threatening to hurt the baby "security" to get their way to engage in political hits that are a form of masturbation for their agents.

The correct answer from a game theory standpoint if intervention by shrinks is not possible is to knock the abuser out even at risk to the kid.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 05:45 PM (X0I7i)

58 > Imagine how dirty Wray is. Just following orders is not going to cut it.

These people don't see themselves as, "Just following orders."

They see themselves as Patriots who are saving America from people like Trump and you.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2023 05:46 PM (R38qh)

59 56 Pleaded for continued funding while understanding mistakes were made and pinky swearing it won't happen again.

My thoughts on Wray I will keep to myself.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 05:45 PM (tT6L1)

He's a "public" servant; make him use "public" transportation.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:46 PM (ynpvh)

60 *** comment redacted *****

~ Your Eff Bee Eye.

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 05, 2023 05:46 PM (lZVy/)

61 58 > Imagine how dirty Wray is. Just following orders is not going to cut it.

These people don't see themselves as, "Just following orders."

They see themselves as Patriots who are saving America from people like Trump and you.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2023 05:46 PM (R38qh)

I think their balls are deflated.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:46 PM (ynpvh)

62 He'll arrest TWICE the number of J6 suspects!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:45 PM (ynpvh)
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Latest video allowed them to identify a pensioner from Iowa STEPPING ON GRASS!!

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:46 PM (krQz2)

63 50 Posted by: Nikki Haley at December 05, 2023 05:43 PM (9Wrck)

He knows the Ukraine is just about done and will drag on as a "stalemate" so long as the ukies want to feed the grinder.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 05:47 PM (X0I7i)

64 Mark Andrew Edwards: "Remove all power and authority from the FBI.
They have proven they cannot be trusted with it."

Yep.

The agency failed. Its mission, if not bastardized long ago, is certainly bastardized now. We shouldn't continue f***ing up by continuing to trust it.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 05, 2023 05:47 PM (aXxgO)

65 Another hearing, another day of Wray lying and everybody goes home.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2023 05:47 PM (y+ihO)

66 "They see themselves as Patriots who are saving America from people like Trump and you."

I bet "there are no innocents" passes many a lip. Hmmm.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 05, 2023 05:48 PM (Z8Yh2)

67 64 Mark Andrew Edwards: "Remove all power and authority from the FBI.
They have proven they cannot be trusted with it."

Yep.

The agency failed. Its mission, if not bastardized long ago, is certainly bastardized now. We shouldn't continue f***ing up by continuing to trust it.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 05, 2023 05:47 PM (aXxgO)

If blackmail doesn't work, their friends in the other alphabet agencies have ways of clearing the way.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:48 PM (ynpvh)

68 They should ask Wray if he has a plane to catch. Because when he met with Congress before, he said he didn't have time to answer the (hard?) questions because he has a plane to catch.

The plane was a government plane that he used for a personal trip to his vacation home. How nice ... and he constantly lies to congress, with no consequence ever. Garland/Wray types think they are above Congress and the President, and they may be correct.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 05, 2023 05:48 PM (Cus5s)

69 @57

>>they are threatening to hurt the baby "security" to get their way to engage in political hits that are a form of masturbation for their agents.

Well, yeah, that's the Sword of Damacles the LE/IC holds over the head of the people.

We need to fight trough that bullsh*t or the Republic, such that it is, will be truly lost.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2023 05:48 PM (XV/Pl)

70 Just a formality.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at December 05, 2023 05:49 PM (/ufvz)

71 The "punishment" is that they don't get to choose the office with the best view in the new FBI HQ, and their totally punishing bosses will decide those for them.

Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2023 05:49 PM (Yl8dY)

72 69 @57

>>they are threatening to hurt the baby "security" to get their way to engage in political hits that are a form of masturbation for their agents.

Well, yeah, that's the Sword of Damacles the LE/IC holds over the head of the people.

We need to fight trough that bullsh*t or the Republic, such that it is, will be truly lost.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2023 05:48 PM (XV/Pl)

Reminds me of the Menendez brothers asking for leniency because they were orphans now.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:49 PM (ynpvh)

73 If you are the body of oversight, and you give a bureau the fiat to declare anything the "subject of an open inquiry", you've just ceded your authority.

In a perfect world, we could allow such things. But just because it would be better to allow such things, does not mean that you can let a shitpile bureaus this kind of fiat, which vetoes oversight.

If I were the head of a corrupt FIB, yer damn right i'd have an investigation stay open about anything I didn't want to have to answer for.

Who knows how long this insubordination has been festering under this cover?

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:50 PM (krQz2)

74 Wray Epps.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 05, 2023 05:50 PM (Dm8we)

75 "Oh, Wray added that there was a little note added to their file"

This will go on your permanent record young man!

Posted by: Ripley at December 05, 2023 05:51 PM (JojsZ)

76 To be honest, I'm kind of surprised that Wray took time out to attend a hearing what with his busy vacations schedule and all. I hope he didn't keep the govt-provided private jet idling on the tarmac, cuz that shit costs money!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2023 05:51 PM (Gsmsg)

77 This is the song that never ends
Yes it goes on and on my friends
Somebody started singing it
Not knowing what it was...

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Aspiring Codger at December 05, 2023 05:51 PM (T/Lqj)

78 That Pastor who was arrested, with a full show of force by the FBI told me all I need to know about the average jack booted thug which works there.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 05:51 PM (tT6L1)

79 Dump their docs? Nah, bruh. Dump THEM. From helicopters. I won't vote for anyone who doesn't make an ironclad commitment that he'll be running 24hr, back-to-back Chinook sorties from the Hoover Building, Langley, Quantico, and Ft. Meade, until every last rat is drowned, so help him G-d, or he'll leap from one himself.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 05:51 PM (0FoWg)

80 The agency failed. Its mission, if not bastardized long ago, is certainly bastardized now. We shouldn't continue f***ing up by continuing to trust it.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 05, 2023 05:47 PM (aXxgO)
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Some would argue Hoover had too much power.

And I might agree with them.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:51 PM (krQz2)

81 Ted Cruz is just another side show in the circus. The Republicants will give Wray what he wants and more.

Everything that eats because of a check from the federal government is your mortal enemy.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at December 05, 2023 05:52 PM (ihsO4)

82 79 Dump their docs? Nah, bruh. Dump THEM. From helicopters. I won't vote for anyone who doesn't make an ironclad commitment that he'll be running 24hr, back-to-back Chinook sorties from the Hoover Building, Langley, Quantico, and Ft. Meade, until every last rat is drowned, so help him G-d, or he'll leap from one himself.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 05:51 PM (0FoWg)

Could always go Israeli and pump swamp water into their facility...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:52 PM (ynpvh)

83 @72

>>Reminds me of the Menendez brothers asking for leniency because they were orphans now.

Except with far less deadly consequences.

Agent Johnson: Johnson, how did that dirty bomb sneak through your sector?

The Other Agent Johnson: I was tired because of all of these budget cuts, I've been doing Uber Eats to make ends meet and you know how that goes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2023 05:52 PM (XV/Pl)

84 Someone assure me the NCIS is not fucked up please. If I had to guess it's the same types in all agencies.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 05, 2023 05:52 PM (Z8Yh2)

85 Garland/Wray types think they are above Congress and the President, and they may be correct.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 05, 2023 05:48 PM (Cus5s)

May be? It's as clear as day.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 05:53 PM (0FoWg)

86 Representative Clay Higgins got Christopher Wray to state under oath that there were no FBI agents or informants involved at the Jan. 6th event location.

Today, the Leader of the House is blurring the faces of all in the videos of that event before release to the public.

This is bull excrement !

Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2023 05:53 PM (dIske)

87 Spoiler: It will get reauthorized.

Posted by: Oedipus at December 05, 2023 05:53 PM (Z6vKV)

88 "These people don't see themselves as, "Just following orders." -- They see themselves as Patriots who are saving America from people like Trump and you."

idk, I think maybe they think the American system failed, they might as well get on the winning team (WEF/IMF/globalists) and collect the BigBux, and have billionaires as their friends. Hard to swallow they still are so blind to their maniacal abuse of power to punish the real patriots.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 05, 2023 05:54 PM (Cus5s)

89 I'd like to see this asshole fed into a woodchipper.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 05, 2023 05:54 PM (xcLhO)

90
I gotta love/hate thing with the Cruz. Sometimes love. Sometimes I wanna row him and his Dad back to Cuba on my inflatable kayak with a pinhole leak.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 05, 2023 05:55 PM (enJYY)

91 "We pinkie swear to never abuse these powers ever again!"

It's the "pinkie swear" that seals the deal for me! /sarc

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 05, 2023 05:55 PM (BpYfr)

92 Garland/Wray types think they are above Congress and the President, and they may be correct.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 05, 2023 05:48 PM (Cus5s)
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Well, that's what an unanswerable DOJ that the Demedia pushed for gets you. They called it "Independent DoJ", but such a thing is not in the Constitution, when the "DoJ" consisted of the Attorney General, who basically amounted to the President's legal advisor and counsel.

It wasn't until Trump came in that they tried to foist "independence" on the lofos.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 05:56 PM (krQz2)

93 Mark Andrew Edwards: "Remove all power and authority from the FBI.
They have proven they cannot be trusted with it."

I suppose most of the FBI agents and bureaucrats can't be fired because of civil service protections. Fine. Move them, all to some cubicle hell. Without phones or computers. And take away their pencils and note pads too. Then let them plan their little schemes there.

Posted by: Ripley at December 05, 2023 05:56 PM (JojsZ)

94 Good to know Michael Horowitz is sitting around with his thumb up his ass.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2023 05:56 PM (y+ihO)

95 Spoiler: It will get reauthorized.
Posted by: Oedipus at December 05, 2023 05:53 PM (Z6vKV

Who would expect anything different, aside from habitual mescaline users?

A blue sun will rise in the West before our esteemed Congress votes against the Party and the organs of state security.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 05:56 PM (0FoWg)

96 Every good police state needs its secret police force. Those proles aren't gonna just keep themselves in line.

Posted by: brak at December 05, 2023 05:57 PM (AR07F)

97 Christopher Wray is the kindest, bravest, most honest person I have ever met.

Posted by: Maj. Marko at December 05, 2023 05:57 PM (Z8Yh2)

98 Axeman: "Who knows how long this insubordination has been festering under this cover?"

Exactly. It's the "Get Outta Oversight Card" writ large.

Like you said, when the FBI can just say, "Sorry, sensitive material. Can't talk about it," then it's - by definition - not controlled and is, in fact, rogue.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 05, 2023 05:57 PM (aXxgO)

99 Here's what the Republican Congress will do:

1. Fully authorize the FBI to spy on, persecute and oppress GOP voters;

2. Fully fund "Ukraine" after it has surfaced most of the money has been stolen and the war is lost;

3. Go after Sen. Tuberville for trying to prevent anti-white racial discrimination in the disgraced military;

4. Do whatever else the Left tells them to do.

But vote harder.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 05, 2023 05:58 PM (KSNKu)

100 SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. — Dec. 11, 2015 - Divers searched a lake here Thursday for electronic devices, including a computer hard drive, that investigators suspect were dumped in the murky water by the husband and wife who carried out a massacre last week.

They did, however, find their car keys. And a shoe.

Posted by: wth at December 05, 2023 05:58 PM (v0R5T)

101 Here's what the Republican plants for the DC Party in Congress will do:

1. Fully authorize the FBI to spy on, persecute and oppress GOP voters;

...

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (krQz2)

102 The FBI are the Democrats partners in crime. Hell, the whole government bureaucracy is.

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (FQmDC)

103 90
I gotta love/hate thing with the Cruz. Sometimes love. Sometimes I wanna row him and his Dad back to Cuba on my inflatable kayak with a pinhole leak.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 05, 2023 05:55 PM (enJYY)

That bastard is a porch hound. Stands on the porch and barks, no actual hunting.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (pohLc)

104 FFS, why do we even have a congress? What is it exactly that they do?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (YRsIm)

105 The agency failed. Its mission, if not bastardized long ago, is certainly bastardized now. We shouldn't continue f***ing up by continuing to trust it.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 05, 2023 05:47 PM (aXxgO)

People don't know how the FBI got started. It was started by a President hiring a couple of guys, to investigate cases HE wanted investigated. Yes, Congress eventually funded it and gave it Legal Status... but it was created because the US Marshall Service was too independent of any Political Control.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (xaFKb)

106 Who cares
They haven't fired him. It's all theater

Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at December 05, 2023 06:01 PM (CYsUG)

107 104 FFS, why do we even have a congress? What is it exactly that they do?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (YRsIm)

Rubber stamp ongoing resolutions, with the normal 7% or so increase.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2023 06:01 PM (xaFKb)

108 Just remember, the FBI was hoping to be our national police force, once defund the police was brought to a conclusion. It didn't happen, but it doesn't mean the FBI isn't still angling for that job.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 06:01 PM (tT6L1)

109 Yeah Cruz is , how do they put it in Texas? All hat and no cattle...

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2023 06:01 PM (FQmDC)

110 Of all the verminous employees in the Biden administration, I despise Wray the most. His complacent mendacity and his smug assurance (sadly, probably justified) that he will never face any consequences for his crimes, makes him a genuine stench in the nostrils of a free people.

Posted by: Paco at December 05, 2023 06:02 PM (njExo)

111 The FBI are the Democrats partners in crime. Hell, the whole government bureaucracy is.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (FQmDC)
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We can see by their crackdown on J6 protestors, parents at PTA meetings, and traditional Catholics, they're simply the American Stasi.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:03 PM (krQz2)

112 We'll give you your brand new ginormous building, FBI, but I got to tell you, we don't like it, not one bit.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at December 05, 2023 06:03 PM (FL9yc)

113 May their khakis all simultaneously explode into flame.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 06:03 PM (hCt6Y)

114 OK, legal question. How does FBI Policy (ie, not commenting on ongoing investigations) overrule the Congresses Oversite Authority?

Congress gets that power from the Constitution itself... how does a POLICY become more powerful?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2023 06:04 PM (xaFKb)

115 104 FFS, why do we even have a congress? What is it exactly that they do?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (YRsIm)

Apparently, the staffers could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. And plenty of nose candy. And NGO money.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 05, 2023 06:05 PM (xcLhO)

116 The FBI should be de funded and eliminated

Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:05 PM (A5THL)

117 OK, legal question. How does FBI Policy (ie, not commenting on ongoing investigations) overrule the Congresses Oversite Authority?

Congress gets that power from the Constitution itself... how does a POLICY become more powerful?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2023 06:04 PM (xaFKb)
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It can't. That's why if Congress allows the FIB to deflect on everything by that excuse, it effectively removes oversight.

The Constitution guarantees nothing. Only action in enforcing the provisions do.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:05 PM (krQz2)

118 Hunter Biden's laptop, Christopher Wray continues refusing to acknowledge that it's real.
.......

Well he pursed his lips so he's super serious.

Posted by: wth at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (v0R5T)

119 We're ALWAYS in the middle of an election season.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (63Dwl)

120 Is he related to Faye Wray?

Posted by: I've often wondered at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (26UOe)

121 The FBI should be de funded and eliminated
Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:05 PM (A5THL)
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And some lamentations from their women might be called for.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (krQz2)

122 Romeo13: "Congress gets that power from the Constitution itself... how does a POLICY become more powerful?"

Because Congress lets it?

I mean, that's the logical conclusion.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (aXxgO)

123 FFS, why do we even have a congress? What is it exactly that they do?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (YRsIm)

They're the DC regime's PR firm. They exist to step out for the cameras and justify your next forcible facefucking, and if they're good at it, they'll get you to ask for it, thank them afterward, and throw some coins in the plate when it passes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (0FoWg)

124 104 FFS, why do we even have a congress? What is it exactly that they do?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (YRsIm)

Grift

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (xcxpd)

125 If the Department of Education is removed, does that also remove the pretext for the FBI interfering in local school board meetings?

Yeah, yeah, I know, academic question.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (tT6L1)

126 Whoops! It's 00:05 here and I logged on to ramble on an ONT.
Sorry!

Posted by: LenNeal at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (oJRUg)

127 Is he related to Faye Wray?
Posted by: I've often wondered'

It's Fay Wray and I hope not, as she was HOT.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 05, 2023 06:08 PM (oJRUg)

128 If the FBI succeeds in making itself the carabinieri of our country, then i am going to have to seriously revamp my understanding of "law abiding citizen".

Posted by: Paco at December 05, 2023 06:08 PM (njExo)

129 114 OK, legal question. How does FBI Policy (ie, not commenting on ongoing investigations) overrule the Congresses Oversite Authority?

Congress gets that power from the Constitution itself... how does a POLICY become more powerful?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2023 06:04 PM (xaFKb)

"Legal?" It is to laugh. The Ho's and the Help couldn't do anything even if they wanted. All power comes from the barrel of a gun and Congress unilaterally disarmed years ago (the Dems get to posture a bit more but they also are castrated cucks). Russians and Chinese has just as much input into their governments as American citizens do at this point. The National Security State just puts up with the kabuki because it wants to lecture the rest of the world about Our Democracy.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 05, 2023 06:08 PM (KSNKu)

130 If the Department of Education is removed, does that also remove the pretext for the FBI interfering in local school board meetings?

Yeah, yeah, I know, academic question.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (tT6L1)
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ISWYDT

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:08 PM (krQz2)

131 I recently read Children of the Flower Moon. It's interesting and a quick read. One thing that gets emphasized over and over again is how EVERYONE surrounding the Osage were ripping them off. Every local business, every politician, every lawman, every random guy wandering into town, all the way up the legal chain at the state level, and even many federal people were ALL ripping off the Osage.

It reminds me of today, only now it's everyone. We're all being ripped off at every level by everyone who has even a little bit of power.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2023 06:08 PM (R38qh)

132 Who put Christopher Wray in charge again?

I'm sure VP Nikki Haley though will clean up the swamp.

Posted by: Blago at December 05, 2023 06:08 PM (wMRY8)

133 105 Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2023 06:00 PM (xaFKb)

Eh kinda. The National Bureau of Investigation as founded was an association of police chiefs using some of the Pinkerton infrastructure in 1896 to go after "investigations of interest." When it relocated to DC in in 1902 its bailiwick was largely limited to the indian reservations and taking photos and archaic body measurements as an investigatory matter.

6 years later they decided on a lark to make it an actual federal agency with more police powers.

Like a good progressive Roosevelt was using treasury assets for private investigations functionally so that being outlawed his guy at the AG Bonaparte weaponized the Bureau of Investigation.

Corporate culture wise it has always his 75% clowns to 10% political operators with the other 15% doing the lion's share of "the real work" Hoover tightened shit up fired a lot of the connected drunks who hung out there and changed the personnel but not the problems.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 06:09 PM (X0I7i)

134 93 Mark Andrew Edwards: "Remove all power and authority from the FBI.
They have proven they cannot be trusted with it."

I suppose most of the FBI agents and bureaucrats can't be fired because of civil service protections. Fine. Move them, all to some cubicle hell. Without phones or computers. And take away their pencils and note pads too. Then let them plan their little schemes there.
Posted by: Ripley at December 05, 2023 05:56 PM (JojsZ)

Then we need to change the protections. And their badges. And their guns.

This is my nice guy compromise position. I have other sugestions for how to tame the FBI that are not nice.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 06:09 PM (xcxpd)

135 What did Wray do prior to being appointed FBI director?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 06:09 PM (hCt6Y)

136 Hiya BenHad !

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2023 06:09 PM (T4tVD)

137 They're the DC regime's PR firm. They exist to step out for the cameras and justify your next forcible facefucking, and if they're good at it, they'll get you to ask for it, thank them afterward, and throw some coins in the plate when it passes.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (0FoWg)

Correct but it is more of a case of leaving cash along with the tip on the dresser.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 05, 2023 06:10 PM (KSNKu)

138 Paraphrasing

Wray: I tell my people to follow the facts, regardless of the politics.

Also Wray: we have to be careful of being speaking to the truth the laptop was real because of politics.

Posted by: Turn 2 at December 05, 2023 06:10 PM (JfxgE)

139 Raises hand. Congress and the government are for shit but an apathetic constituency is equally as bad.

Every member of congress has local offices. Make those staffers cry.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2023 06:11 PM (y+ihO)

140 Congress gets that power from the Constitution itself... how does a POLICY become more powerful?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2023 06:04 PM (xaFKb)

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How did regulatory agencies come into being if the Constitution strictly prohibits hybrid functions?

Ignoring the Constitution, and now you and I have more regulation and less freedom as a result.

Congress wasn't given the power--except by the "Good and Plenty" clause--to create such hybrid organizations.

Heck, some regulatory agencies can effectively tax you.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:11 PM (krQz2)

141 The FBI should be de funded and eliminated
Posted by: vic

Vic! Where have you been, young man?!

Posted by: old chick at December 05, 2023 06:11 PM (sOete)

142 I'm not sure all of you people are posting with your real names.

Posted by: Nicole Hayleigh at December 05, 2023 06:11 PM (26UOe)

143
For Reelz ...cannot see Wray giving Congressional testimony that he does not give the STRONG impression of a mob lawyer...which of course he is.

Posted by: Voter theater. at December 05, 2023 06:11 PM (MeDg4)

144 Does Wray have a punchable face or am I mistaken?

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 06:12 PM (hCt6Y)

145 Wray: I tell my people to follow the facts, regardless of the politics.

Also Wray: we have to be careful of being speaking to the truth the laptop was real because of politics.

Posted by: Turn 2 at December 05, 2023 06:10 PM (JfxgE)
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21st century Power 101: Use *both* sides of your mouth.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:12 PM (krQz2)

146 119 We're ALWAYS in the middle of an election season.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2023 06:06 PM (63Dwl)

++++

This is so true. Yet, he uses the most meager excuse and gets away with it, doesn't even bother to offer up one more plausible. No, he goes with the lamest of all with nods of approval.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at December 05, 2023 06:12 PM (FL9yc)

147 Vic's here!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 06:13 PM (xcxpd)

148 Nice. Feel Me Flow just came on. Haven't bumped this one in years!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2023 06:13 PM (0FoWg)

149 Guess they found his price, huh?

Tuberville drops hold on promotions, except for a few:

Sorry, was going to post a tinyurl, but the f'ing site isn't loading.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 05, 2023 06:13 PM (Angsy)

150 And Vic is right, of course

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 06:13 PM (xcxpd)

151 Off Cruz sock

Posted by: washrivergal at December 05, 2023 06:13 PM (FL9yc)

152 Wray needs to be hung by feet for some period of time while answering questions

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2023 06:13 PM (fwDg9)

153 I suppose most of the FBI agents and bureaucrats can't be fired because of civil service protections. Fine. Move them, all to some cubicle hell. Without phones or computers. And take away their pencils and note pads too. Then let them plan their little schemes there.
Posted by: Ripley

____

if you have the right people in charge, you can make a difference. These agents don't have some constitutional right to play politics at the office. They can be taken off cases, reassigned, even fired.

90% of the problem is who's in charge of the FBI and we know who's to blame there

Trump said Wray, "is an impeccably qualified individual, and I know that he will again serve his country as a fierce guardian of the law and model of integrity once the Senate confirms him to lead the FBI."

Posted by: Blago at December 05, 2023 06:14 PM (wMRY8)

154 Did they renew the FISA courts also? After that hideous abuse?
I don't see a solution for any of this...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 05, 2023 06:14 PM (MeG8a)

155 135. What did Wray do prior to being appointed FBI director? - Northernlurker

Federal attorney for most of his life.

As I think I've mentioned before, if you want to see a good movie about what d-bags federal attorneys can be, check out Prince of the City.

Posted by: Paco at December 05, 2023 06:14 PM (njExo)

156 Could always go Israeli and pump swamp water into their facility...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2023 05:52 PM (ynpvh)
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Could backfire--I think they breed in swamp water.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 05, 2023 06:14 PM (BpYfr)

157 Y'all are missing the main point. Whether or not the 702 authority is given by congress, the FIB will spy on us anyway. The precedent has been set.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 05, 2023 06:14 PM (BdMk6)

158 141 The FBI should be de funded and eliminated
Posted by: vic

Vic! Where have you been, young man?!

Posted by: old chick at December 05, 2023 06:11 PM (sOete

My computer has been broke.

Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:14 PM (A5THL)

159 Vic hasn't commented in so long morons speculated on your demise.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2023 06:15 PM (RIvkX)

160 Vic if that is you God bless you, good to see you buddy.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 06:15 PM (X0I7i)

161 Guess they found his price, huh?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 05, 2023 06:13 PM (Angsy)
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Or his photos.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:15 PM (krQz2)

162 Cruz should have walked over to the table and set a bag of dicks down in front of Wray and told him to start munching away.

Posted by: Roy at December 05, 2023 06:15 PM (z+ik4)

163 >>> Vic's here!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 06:13 PM (xcxpd

======

I thought Vic was morte, sadly, a few months ago. Am I mistaken?

Posted by: Turn 2 at December 05, 2023 06:15 PM (JfxgE)

164

BOSTON — President Biden said Tuesday he is not sure he would be running for reelection if Donald Trump was not in the race.

“If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running. But we cannot let him win,” Biden said at a fundraiser in the Boston area.

https://tinyurl.com/5ek32fp2

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2023 06:15 PM (63Dwl)

165 Haha.

No one gets fired.
No one is in jail.

In fact, they all got raises and the holidays off.

We are such suckers.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2023 06:16 PM (kJSFo)

166 Wray thinks he's dealing with stupid people. And Jews.

Posted by: torabora at December 05, 2023 06:16 PM (DVJUU)

167 Let the unilateral disarming begin!

Posted by: Joefrombako at December 05, 2023 06:17 PM (Bf5aC)

168 You know what I want? I'd like Wray to bring fifty of his cohorts to try and arrest an Elijah. Then send in Comey and 50 of his besties.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 06:17 PM (tT6L1)

169 Vic I hope it is you

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2023 06:17 PM (fwDg9)

170 The FBI should be de funded and eliminated
Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:05 PM

Vic Johnson is right!

Posted by: RMBS Johnson at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (aQy7p)

171 163 >>> Vic's here!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 06:13 PM (xcxpd

======

I thought Vic was morte, sadly, a few months ago. Am I mistaken?
Posted by: Turn 2 at December 05, 2023 06:15 PM (JfxgE)

He was just @112

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (xcxpd)

172 159 Vic hasn't commented in so long morons speculated on your demise.
=========================

I have been diagnosed with another case of cancer.

Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (A5THL)

173 In many ways DJT was surrounded by turds and was forced to pick the ones that stank the least, by the clean end.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (MeG8a)

174 Y'all are missing the main point. Whether or not the 702 authority is given by congress, the FIB will spy on us anyway. The precedent has been set.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 05, 2023 06:14 PM (BdMk6)
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Agree. People keep saying it's the fault of the Patriot Act.

But then why have they run roughshod over the actual protections of the Patriot Act?

Perhaps the Patriot Act does make bad behavior a little easier or harder to spot. And perhaps it is the worst part. But anybody with a good memory of Comey's FISA warrant against ~~Page~~Trump knows how slipshod that whole tissue was. And how no one will ever get prosecuted to the full extent allowed by the FISC rules.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (krQz2)

175 Or his photos.
Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:15 PM (krQz2)

Yeah, just ten months of wasted time. Hey, Schumer said the same thing. Why bother if you're going to fold. Of course, the back stabbing by the GOPe - who else - probably convinced him he was just wasting his time.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (Angsy)

176 LibsOfTikTok features an AWFL "educator" who istriggered by a math workbook with the word "family" on it because the cartoon "family" is a mom, dad, and child. Oh, and the cartoon may be of white people.

She further says that *someone* is saying this is what the "majority" of families look like.

https://is.gd/SmXw1d

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2023 06:19 PM (R38qh)

177 My computer has been broke.
Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:14 PMbeasties.
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Wow, this economy is hard on everything!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 06:19 PM (tT6L1)

178 there was a little note added to their files.

Played by a sad saxophone.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 05, 2023 06:19 PM (su5Mv)

179 Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2023 06:16 PM

I wish I could disagree with this statement.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2023 06:19 PM (aQy7p)

180 >>> thought Vic was morte, sadly, a few months ago. Am I mistaken?
Posted by: Turn 2 at December 05, 2023 06:15 PM (JfxgE)

He was just @112
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (xcxpd)

=====

I would certainly be happy to be wrong.

Posted by: Turn 2 at December 05, 2023 06:19 PM (JfxgE)

181 I have an idea.

Instead of spying on every American to catch the Chinese and Russian and Afghani and Pali and Paki and Venezuelan that would atack us why don't we seal the border and kick out the illegals and the foreigners who have not been vetted thoroughly.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 05, 2023 06:20 PM (LaNzR)

182 172 Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (A5THL)

Prayers sent Vic, wife just went through chemo for her first.

You were missed.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 06:20 PM (X0I7i)

183 My computer has been broke.
Posted by: vic

That sucks.
I am so happy to see you posting, it made my day, old timer, just knowing you're out there somewhere.

Posted by: old chick at December 05, 2023 06:20 PM (sOete)

184 I have been diagnosed with another case of cancer.
Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (A5THL)

Ah man...sorry to hear that.
Fucking cancer...

We love you here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 05, 2023 06:20 PM (xcxpd)

185 Willowed:

It's ROCKY Colavito
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Everyone I knew was either an Indians or Tigers fan.
His given name is Rocco. I've never heard him called that, ever.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 05, 2023 05:43 PM (FCs/J)

Look at his 1957 baseball card.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 06:20 PM (dGCAG)

186 157 Y'all are missing the main point. Whether or not the 702 authority is given by congress, the FIB will spy on us anyway. The precedent has been set.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 05, 2023 06:14 PM (BdMk6)

Correct. We all suffer some degree of normalcy bias.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 05, 2023 06:20 PM (KSNKu)

187 144. Does Wray have a punchable face or am I mistaken? - Northernlurker

He does, indeed. He also has duck lips, so it might be fun to latch on to them with both hands, heave him off the floor and swing him in a circle repeatedly.

Posted by: Paco at December 05, 2023 06:20 PM (njExo)

188 I have been diagnosed with another case of cancer.
Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (A5THL)
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Then you can be sure I will pray for a speedy and complete healing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2023 06:21 PM (RIvkX)

189 Vic!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 05, 2023 06:21 PM (su5Mv)

190 Vic doesn't have a smart phone!

Posted by: torabora at December 05, 2023 06:21 PM (DVJUU)

191 The 702s give them the sheep skin of credibility on motive.

Frankly I encourage EVERYONE here to talk as much as possible in real life about ending Qualified immunity and heavily restricting sovereign immunity as a concept.

The malefactors need sued personally.

Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 06:22 PM (X0I7i)

192 Funding? Why does it need funding? Al the players are already Govt. employees on salary, FBI, judges, assistants, etc. No extra money is needed to get a piece of paper signed off.
Did I miss something?

Posted by: Ciampino - that's not an HP printer! at December 05, 2023 06:22 PM (qfLjt)

193 I bet is wrong a book about the power of humility.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 06:22 PM (hCt6Y)

194 "Wray: I tell my people to follow the facts, regardless of the politics.
Also Wray: we have to be careful of being speaking to the truth the laptop was real because of politics."

Also Wray: The completely Dem' fabricated lie about Trump/Russia is something we are very concerned about, and we must continue spying and obstructing a duly elected president.

And they didn't "not get involved" with the laptop, they declared it to be Russian disinformation, while they knew it was very real. The lied, again and again.

By 1776 standards, this would mean war against a totalitarian government. Instead "we" just hope they continue to support the stock market, even as it all goes Woke/Globalist. "My precious retirement accounts are more important than liberty."

Posted by: illiniwek at December 05, 2023 06:23 PM (Cus5s)

195 Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (A5THL)

Prayers sent Vic, wife just went through chemo for her first.

You were missed.
Posted by: sven at December 05, 2023 06:20 PM (X0I7i)

Amen.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2023 06:23 PM (dGCAG)

196 Did I miss something?
Posted by: Ciampino - that's not an HP printer! at December 05, 2023 06:22 PM (qfLjt)
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They need a job code to bill expenses

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2023 06:23 PM (RIvkX)

197 Wray probably sits back thinking, "Don't make me remind you what Epstein was able to get on you guys."

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:23 PM (krQz2)

198 They are not really answerable to us, are they?? Now, what kind of government fits that definition?

Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2023 06:23 PM (PCK5/)

199 I have also been in the hospital for 2.5 months.

Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:23 PM (A5THL)

200 JPost reports the IDF killed, "the brigade commander, Ahmed Ehandor, the deputy brigade commander, Al Rajab, and other senior members including the commander of the support battalion, the head of the electronic warfare unit, and the surveillance officer in the Northern Gaza Strip."

https://is.gd/ypIAa8

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2023 06:24 PM (R38qh)

201 When traveling I'm always a little unnerved as none of my clothing is covered in animal hair and I can just leave stuff piled up in the flat without expecting it to be knocked over or eaten when I return.
It feels empty.

Posted by: LenNeal at December 05, 2023 06:24 PM (oJRUg)

202 I have been diagnosed with another case of cancer.
Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (A5THL)

+++

So glad to see you, Vic. Very sorry about your cancer diagnosis.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 05, 2023 06:24 PM (FL9yc)

203 > I have been diagnosed with another case of cancer.

I'm sorry to hear that, Vic. I'll pray for you.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2023 06:25 PM (R38qh)

204 What are the various "....." immunities, could someone summarize?

Posted by: Ciampino - The word 'drool' just rolls off the tongue at December 05, 2023 06:25 PM (qfLjt)

205 Abolish Chris Wray.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 05, 2023 06:25 PM (R/m4+)

206 JPost reports the IDF killed, "the brigade commander, Ahmed Ehandor, the deputy brigade commander, Al Rajab, and other senior members including the commander of the support battalion, the head of the electronic warfare unit, and the surveillance officer in the Northern Gaza Strip."

https://is.gd/ypIAa8
Posted by: bonhomme at December 05, 2023 06:24 PM (R38qh)

And,I hope,a shitload of austere Islamic sxholats.

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 06:25 PM (hCt6Y)

207 They are not really answerable to us, are they?? Now, what kind of government fits that definition?

Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2023 06:23 PM (PCK5/)
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Joke ScarIntern spent years convincing us that an unanswerable Police State would be just the thing to save us from ~~Mr. Neutron~~Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at December 05, 2023 06:26 PM (krQz2)

208 I have also been in the hospital for 2.5 months.
Posted by: vic

oh Vic, so sorry to read this. I sincerely hope if you are home now you have help with your needs.
Please try to post now and then with updates.
You have been in many folk's thoughts.

Posted by: old chick at December 05, 2023 06:26 PM (sOete)

209

oh Vic, so sorry to read this. I sincerely hope if you are home now you have help with your needs.
Please try to post now and then with updates.
You have been in many folk's thoughts.
Posted by: old chick at December

Agreed

Posted by: That Northernlurke embracing the suckd at December 05, 2023 06:27 PM (hCt6Y)

210 Yeah Rocco Colavito an NY guy, always interesting how the local teams missed out on players in those pre draft days.

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2023 06:29 PM (FQmDC)

211 can somebody 'splain who has the authority to keep arresting people that were proximate to the White House on Jan 6 2021 yet we cannot file charges on current obstructionists in the several agencies that are protecting the Bidens today?

I realize that's a compound question but we need answers

Posted by: DanMan at December 05, 2023 06:30 PM (8uzBS)

212 NOOD

Quick Hits

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 05, 2023 06:31 PM (qPw5n)

213 and, Northern, you and Paisley are in my daily thoughts, too. I can't imagine being in your circumstances so all I will say is I hope they change for the better very soon.

Posted by: old chick at December 05, 2023 06:31 PM (sOete)

214 "reauthorized by unanimous consent"

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at December 05, 2023 06:31 PM (zer5o)

215 They. They have the power to arrest whomever they will.

Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2023 06:31 PM (PCK5/)

216 For instance, the Yankees lost out on Carl Yastrzemski when their scout threw a pencil after his dad asked for &100 k signing bonus. His dad threw the scout out of the house " No one throws a pencil in my house!"

Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2023 06:33 PM (FQmDC)

217 Lots of the Deep State personal should be charged with treason working against a President of the United States

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2023 06:34 PM (fwDg9)

218 DOJ/FBI, the largest criminal organization in US history, bar none.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at December 05, 2023 06:39 PM (gxokI)

219 If the Department of Education is removed, does that also remove the pretext for the FBI interfering in local school board meetings?
Yeah, yeah, I know, academic question.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 05, 2023 06:06

No Blake don'tcha know, the Feral Govt is bound to protect those who want to mutilate our children by the Constitution. It's in there right after the right to ~~abort up to 9 months+~~ privacy.

Posted by: Farmer at December 05, 2023 06:43 PM (55Qr6)

220 I have been diagnosed with another case of cancer.
Posted by: vic at December 05, 2023 06:18 PM (A5THL)

Nice to see you, Vic. I know you've been in many of our prayers, and will continue to be.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 05, 2023 06:51 PM (OX9vb)

221 Why is Wray to go babbling about the PRC? They’re his friends and allies. As for stopping terrorists attacking us, the FBI doesn’t do that so we could save the money and protect ourselves without spying on each other or having SWATting raids to try and kill each other.

Posted by: WestCoastRich at December 05, 2023 07:27 PM (Q9VP0)

222 Prayers up Vic, keep fighting and posting

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 06, 2023 09:24 AM (wukIh)

223 Norman Lear is not at 101

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 06, 2023 09:25 AM (wukIh)

224 Mort , not not. Though it also works

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 06, 2023 09:26 AM (wukIh)

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