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Claim: New J6 Videos Show Undercover Cops Urging Protesters To Trespass
Congressional investigators have obtained hours of video footage from undercover officers who were dispatched by the Washington D.C. Metropolitan Police Department to the U.S. Capitol to conduct electronic surveillance during the Jan. 6 riot, a critical new piece of evidence that could help lawmakers fashion long-delayed security reforms. The footage reviewed by Just the News ranges from the mundane -- such as chronicling moments when Capitol Police officers are impacted by tear gas fired into the crowd -- to more provocative scenes that appear to show plainclothes MPD officers exhorting rioters to climb scaffolding near the Capitol or talking about being undercover with liberal fascist protesters in a crowd. "Well, we go undercover as Antifa in the crowd," one officer that congressional investigators believe is a member of the MPD electronic surveillance unit is captured on video saying. That officer made the comment as he was helping uniformed Capitol Police officers get some water after inhaling tear gas, the footage shows. Just the News obtained footage from official sources and confirmed it has not been altered. The footage showed the officer in plainclothes with a grey jacket. Spotted in the video and identifying him as a police officer is a badge hanging around his neck.Video at the link. Another claim is made by the Jack Posobiec and Raheem Kassam, that police fired rubber bullets at protesters who were "just milling around" and not doing anything violent or threatening. I don't trust either of these guys, so we'll have to wait on the evidence. I don't see enough to say for sure if cops opened fire on perfectly peaceful protesters "just milling around or not." Definitely you see the cops shooting off tear gas grenades and firing rubber bullets.
.@RaheemKassam to @JackPosobiec: "With all of the excess Jan 6 footage that has been released ... We've now seen so many more angles, so much more footage of who actually started and provoked the violence that day. And unfortunately, it was the police." pic.twitter.com/nYb4fGdTZb
— Human Events (@HumanEvents) November 20, 2023
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: kallisto at November 22, 2023 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 22, 2023 12:02 PM (qPw5n)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:02 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 22, 2023 12:02 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:03 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 22, 2023 12:03 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at November 22, 2023 12:03 PM (aD39U)
If only the J6'rs launched frozen bottles of water at cops and tried to burn down an historic church, perhaps things might have been different for them.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 22, 2023 12:03 PM (XV/Pl)
But you want to believe. I understand.
Posted by: Fox Mulder at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:03 PM (MvF+J)
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If McCarthy had just released them like he had promised, he might have been able to make the argument that he'd done something material and avoid the mutiny.
But McCarthy is a barely functioning retard, so he never really thought of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (Q4IgG)
Nothing will happen to those that propagated it.
The Capitol Police will keep their 'bravery' medals. Those they murdered will still be dead.
Conservatives exercising their right to protest peacefully will still be in prison.
We're f*cked.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (Zz0t1)
That's cocoo for Cocoa Puffs.
Posted by: Drive by at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (wYBlF)
But, I've been following Poso for a while, haven't seen any big blunders from him before.
But I agree on the wait-and-see approach.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:05 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:05 PM (1fLE7)
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It will kill you
Posted by: Michael Douglas at November 22, 2023 12:05 PM (L1JuH)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (Q4IgG)
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McCarthy promised in the initial negotiations last year. He started releasing them to Tucker, but then Tucker got fired from Fox and McCarthy just let the issue go away. Nothing was stopping him from doing what he had promised and what Johnson just did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
Debunked
Old news
Disinformation
Politicizing a tragedy
Obsession
Focused on the needs of hard-working Americans
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:06 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: Flyguy at November 22, 2023 12:06 PM (OYxA4)
Someone, somewhere, in some future space and time, probably after Nancy Pelosi kicks the bucket, is gonna rat her out.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 22, 2023 12:06 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: BignJames at November 22, 2023 12:06 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2023 12:07 PM (fwDg9)
It all smells.
Posted by: Orson at November 22, 2023 12:07 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Drive by at November 22, 2023 12:07 PM (wYBlF)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:07 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Flyguy at November 22, 2023 12:07 PM (OYxA4)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:05 PM (1fLE7)
But you DO know who NOT to believe.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 22, 2023 12:07 PM (N39Ws)
It all smells.
Posted by: Orson at November 22, 2023 12:07 PM (dIske)
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It is my understanding that this is just generally how federal prosecutors work all the time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:08 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:07 PM (xcxpd)
There's someone who needs to take her daddy bird hunting.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 22, 2023 12:08 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Drive by at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (wYBlF)
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Joe F-ING Rogan--of ALL PEOPLE--was explaining the context of Trump's statements. And Trump referred to the way THEY were going after HIM, and how that put more cards on the table.
They just realize how dirty they've tried to do him.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:08 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 22, 2023 12:08 PM (OEquj)
That's cocoo for Cocoa Puffs.
Posted by: Drive by at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (wYBlF)
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The gaslighting is part of the kink.
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 22, 2023 12:09 PM (Wb3Uz)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2023 12:09 PM (R4t5M)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:10 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 22, 2023 12:10 PM (l10hq)
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2023 12:10 PM (fwDg9)
..
Would you elaborate?
Grifters? More?
Posted by: Not trying to be mean but? at November 22, 2023 12:10 PM (ko8ct)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2023 12:09 PM (R4t5M)
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But not the cake, right?
The cake isn't a lie, right?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
Let's do the antifa test. Would the police have fired tear gas, flash bangs and rubber bullets if the crowd was full of antifa protesters?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (xcxpd)
The cake isn't a lie, right?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
You like your new digs?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (R4t5M)
They can join Charlie Kirk outside my circle of trust.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 22, 2023 12:12 PM (l10hq)
Little Jimmy home from college for Thanksgiving:
"Those Trumptards had it coming Uncle Auspex! Oh, and river to the sea!" (makes fist and raises it like a little David Hogg.
Posted by: Auspex at November 22, 2023 12:12 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (xcxpd)
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I'm mad at everyone who hasn't bought my books, so yes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:12 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 22, 2023 12:12 PM (L1JuH)
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2023 12:12 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (MvF+J)
It was incredibly convenient for the Deep State that Trump-supporting Officer Sicknick just randomly happened to have two strokes the day after J6, which happened to kill him.
It meant that the Deep State could turn him into a martyr by falsely alleging that he died of injuries on J6, with him lying in state in the Rotunda and being used as a propaganda foil.
Incredibly convenient.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)
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Moreover: Would the media cover it up or let it die that two men were killed getting hit in the chest with flashbangs shot into a mostly-peaceful crowd?
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (krQz2)
For not releasing the tapes alone like he promised, McCarthy got his just desserts
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (t8QF6)
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (R4t5M)
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I do. It's a nice house in a nice neighborhood in a nice area.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (GBKbO)
Heck even if they fired afterward things started getting rowdy, we know that they refuse to do so at leftist protestors, even when they're trying to break in to the white house, so there is a huge double standard in the way they treat groups amassing outside government buildings.
Not to mention the responses from the media r-tards and politicans, where using disbursement methods against leftist had them literally calling for war crimes charges against Trump, but it's all cheers when they snipe a conservative guy in the face with a rubber bullet from 500 yards.
Posted by: Rbastid at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (27Ic5)
Posted by: DOYLE at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (fwDg9)
🚨Never forget - Timelapse video of the West Side of the Capitol shows the crowd move past police lines at 2:27 PM EST
You know what happened at 2:26 PM?
Bodycam shows a cop shooting a tear gas grenade *into police lines* causing them to retreat for air
Some cop misfiring a tear gas grenade changed the course of American history
The police lines weren’t overrun
They retreated gasping for air from friendly fire
The real question is, why were munitions being fired into an otherwise peaceful crowd?
To rile them up?
https://tinyurl.com/mwza6cys
1:31 minutes; cop f#cking up tear gas at 33 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (krqg6)
Aide: "Do you know Alex Jones secured permits for a rally on January the sixth?"
Nancy: "That Alex Jones, the big conspiracy guy?"
Aide: "That's right. Do you wanna call out the National Guard?"
Nancy: "Are you fvcking kidding me. This is perfect."
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 22, 2023 12:14 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2023 12:11 PM (R4t5M)
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I do. It's a nice house in a nice neighborhood in a nice area.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (GBKbO)
nice
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:14 PM (xcxpd)
A lot of them were DC Public Defenders.
Not the best money can buy, to be sure.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:14 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:08 PM (GBKbO)
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I believe the DOJs "conviction rate" is something like 97% because they threaten to destroy you with lawfare and unlimited resources unless you plead guilty to one or more criminal or civil charges -- even if you're guilty.
And they routinely -- AND CRIMINALLY -- withhold exculpatory evidence, as done in hundreds of these J6 sham show trials. * spit *
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 22, 2023 12:14 PM (Wb3Uz)
Pretty sure that he is being paid by the Trump campaign, with his unrelenting attacks on DeSantis.
My Pillow, Trump, what's the difference? /s
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 22, 2023 12:15 PM (YAtuc)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:12 PM (GBKbO)
Is THAT why you fight me all the time??
Posted by: Doof at November 22, 2023 12:15 PM (WFHMd)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictur
*pushes all chips to center of table*
Behind the scenes McCarthy got Fox to fire Tucker so he could stop releasing vids.
Hey Ryan, how are you? This is Kevin...
Posted by: Not trying to be mean but? at November 22, 2023 12:15 PM (ko8ct)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2023 12:15 PM (R4t5M)
I hope you smacked him silly.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:15 PM (oaDrA)
But yes, don't trust anyone who is hostel to "Ron!".
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at November 22, 2023 12:15 PM (zdYK9)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:12 PM (GBKbO)
Is THAT why you fight me all the time??
Posted by: Doof at November 22, 2023 12:15 PM (WFHMd)
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It's why I fight everyone!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (GBKbO)
You moved to France???
Posted by: Doof at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (WFHMd)
What a shock...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (XqcwY)
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Remember, policeman are underpaid heroes.
Also, every member of the Republican congressional leadership applauded the guy who gunned down Ashli Babbitt
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (i7Q7S)
1. The police are a racist organization that just can't control their hatred of and violence toward minorities.
2. They are so allied to racist, that if you're conservative and they say that you committed a crime, that must have been some crime you committed--and they can't be doubted.
They just have one-thing in common, it fits into the Democrat narrative. That's all.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (krQz2)
Behind the scenes McCarthy got Fox to fire Tucker so he could stop releasing vids.
Hey Ryan, how are you? This is Kevin...
Posted by: Not trying to be mean but? at November 22, 2023 12:15 PM (ko8ct)
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Hell, I wouldn't call it unlikely.
But McCarthy always felt like a cog, not an actual leader. He was probably confused about how to treat the situation, dolled out little bits of footage until someone higher up came up with a solution and saved him from himself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
Also, every member of the Republican congressional leadership applauded the guy who gunned down Ashli Babbitt
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (i7Q7S)
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Mike Pence said that defunding the FIB (one organ) is like "Defunding police (everywhere)".
This is why I have not one shred of respect left for Mike Pence.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:17 PM (krQz2)
Do I have that about right?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2023 12:17 PM (0MLPk)
Posted by: Max Power at November 22, 2023 12:17 PM (q177U)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:13 PM (GBKbO)
You moved to France???
Posted by: Doof at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (WFHMd)
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I moved next door to Andrew Jackson's birthplace. No dirty Frenchies allowed! (except me...I'm 1/4 French)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:18 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 22, 2023 12:18 PM (l10hq)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at November 22, 2023 12:03 PM (aD39U)
He did the thing! He did the thing!
Posted by: Max Power at November 22, 2023 12:18 PM (q177U)
Do I have that about right?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
__________
You forgot: this matter is now closed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:18 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo
You want to Hit It?
Damn. That's some slump.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:18 PM (oaDrA)
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Let's hope its a Norman quarter.
Posted by: Pudhinhead at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (L1JuH)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:18 PM (GBKbO)
Andrew Jackson was born in France?? Is that why you moved to Nice?
Posted by: Doof at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (WFHMd)
We're f*cked.
Posted by: Sponge
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The tide is rolling out on leftism. A generational turning is upon us as the old New Deal/Civil Rights/Progressive era is dying. Oct 7th is creating deep fissures among the left, the billionaire oligarchs increasingly look like Shit Midas where everything they touch turns to shit, Obama and Biden teams are fighting amongst themselves, and an overwhelming majority of the population wants something else. Plus, the money is running out as interest payments eat up more and more of the budget each year. We look increasingly like the last decade of the Soviet Union.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (1uM+d)
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (fwDg9)
Jimmy can only achieve release in his bunk alone with pictures of Greta Thunburg in various states of rage.
Posted by: Auspex at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: It's me donna at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Doof at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (WFHMd)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:08 PM (GBKbO)
_____________________________
With the caveat of withholding discovery. I'm sure that's an abused practice as well at the DOJ. But, not to the level that we may get to see here.
Posted by: Orson at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (dIske)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 22, 2023 12:20 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:20 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at November 22, 2023 12:20 PM (gxokI)
A lot of them were DC Public Defenders.
Not the best money can buy, to be sure.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:14 PM (oaDrA)
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I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Gen. Flynn initially hired Eric Fucking Holder's law firm to represent & defend him.
On that basis alone I considered his judgement suspect (not to mention answering FBI interrogators without legal representation in the room), as much of a patriot as he was and is. Oof ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 22, 2023 12:20 PM (Wb3Uz)
No surprise from a guy who took the lead defending Donald Trump's attempted coup...Speaker Johnson moved quickly to abuse his power in an effort to spread lies and disinformation. He's pretending to do so under the guise of "transparency," by releasing over 40,000 hours of security footage...
...Propagandists can soon cherry-pick a few moments where rioters were not beating up cops, and pretend that somehow negates the rest of the time that they were beating up cops...
almost no one is stupid enough to believe this "FBI did it" conspiracy theory. This isn't like those conspiracy theories of old, where people actually believed it, like claims about the moon landing being fake or JFK being murdered by the mob 60 years ago today...
Posted by: Intercepted Salon.com Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 22, 2023 12:21 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo
You want to Hit It?
Damn. That's some slump.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:18 PM (oaDrA)
I was thinking of using an axe handle.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:21 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:21 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Doof at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (WFHMd)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
Je ne comprends pas
Posted by: Doof at November 22, 2023 12:21 PM (WFHMd)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 22, 2023 12:21 PM (JrojV)
Some cop misfiring a tear gas grenade changed the course of American history
The police lines weren’t overrun
They retreated gasping for air from friendly fire
By that time my lungs were aching for air.
Posted by: Mike Nelson, DC police at November 22, 2023 12:21 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Max Power at November 22, 2023 12:21 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (54Jyl)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (R4t5M)
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 12:19 PM (1uM+d)
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Maybe but "progress" has a tendency to ooze between your fingers like jello.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (krQz2)
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It's why I fight everyone!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (GBKbO)
Hey. I bought a book....AND we share a special day!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (JrojV)
Nothing. Of course.
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: butch at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (AMzZ8)
Hadrian, how are the puppies and their ma?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Fat, sassy and happy. Thanks for asking.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (MoZTd)
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Yes, every police officer is just like racist Derek Chauvin eagerly waiting to choke out a black man (Note that St. George died from an OD).
Except those brave officers who laid their lives on the line on J6. They aren't wicked racists.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (i7Q7S)
Do I have that about right?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
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DC is the last place to look for introspection. The reckoning will come from outside the DC area. We have had similar problems of injustice to protesters back in the day with persecution of labor activists and peace activists in the WWI period which was later determined to be a mistake. What the left is displaying to all that can see is its inhuman immoral core that denies truth, justice, and logic.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 12:22 PM (1uM+d)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 22, 2023 12:23 PM (ZV+pB)
As the Empress would say, nothing will come of this.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 22, 2023 12:23 PM (Q0kLU)
Do I have that about right?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 22, 2023 12:17 PM (0MLPk)
I don't think you can fully judge a law enforcement agency without looking at the positive qualities of the people in it. The Capital Police and FBI have a long-standing tradition of existence to its members and to the community at large.
Posted by: Robert Hoover, Baltimore Public Defender at November 22, 2023 12:23 PM (4I/2K)
As the Empress would say, nothing will come of this.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 22, 2023 12:23 PM (Q0kLU)
I've already said it.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 22, 2023 12:24 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Intercepted Salon.com Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 22, 2023 12:21 PM (JCZqz)
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What morons!
Nancy pointed out that she totally controlled the Kapitol Kops and the footage because she WAS SPEAKER.
Johnson is NOW Speaker--it's not an ABUSE of power to not maintain the previous speaker's policies--especially policies originating from CORRUPTION and DECEIT.
You fuckheads.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:24 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 22, 2023 12:24 PM (BKOUD)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2023 12:24 PM (54Jyl)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 22, 2023 12:03 PM (XV/Pl)
Unironically, yes.
Only one side projects force.
Posted by: XTC at November 22, 2023 12:24 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:25 PM (bWsRe)
I've watched a good bit of the tapes since they've been released and yes, the cops did fire on the crowd before any violence happened.
Why does anyone think they have been hidden from us for so long? Because they backed up the feds case?
Oh, ok.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2023 12:25 PM (ZLI7S)
Meanwhile, here it comes again...
A mystery pneumonia is reportedly tearing through schools in China.
Hospitals in Beijing and 500 miles northeast in Liaoning are among those 'overwhelmed with sick children,' while school classes were 'on the verge of suspension', according to local news reports.
The children are presenting with unusual symptoms that include inflammation in the lungs and a high fever - but no cough or other symptoms usually associated with flu, RSV and other respiratory illnesses.
The alert was issued late on Tuesday via ProMed - a large, publicly available global surveillance system that monitors infectious diseases.
Posted by: Mike Nelson, DC police at November 22, 2023 12:25 PM (63Dwl)
Pretty sure that he is being paid by the Trump campaign, with his unrelenting attacks on DeSantis.
My Pillow, Trump, what's the difference? /s
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 22, 2023 12:15 PM (YAtuc)
Oh, it's a TDS thing. Got it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:25 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:25 PM (krQz2)
A mystery pneumonia is reportedly tearing through schools in China.
Posted by: Mike Nelson, DC police at November 22, 2023 12:25 PM (63Dwl)
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Tony Fraudci is hopeful right now.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:26 PM (krQz2)
Swore I was going to eat 24 hours straight
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2023 12:26 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:27 PM (krQz2)
It's also easy to cherry-pick a few moments where rioters were beating up cops, and pretend that somehow negates the rest of the time that they were not beating up cops.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:27 PM (MoZTd)
Cops are evil, and anyone who hurts cops should be in prison for life
My body my choice, and of course vaccines should be mandatory.
The list is endless
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:27 PM (bWsRe)
"Raw Footage" sounds like the title of a pron movie that Wolfus Aurelius would be into.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 22, 2023 12:27 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (GBKbO)
You bring the truncheons, I'll bring the spiked knuckles.
Posted by: XTC at November 22, 2023 12:28 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: Axeman
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It is a generational thing craving a status quo that can never be regained. Massive societal disruptions occur fairly regularly after about 75-80 years or so and we are due for a change. That usually involves repudiating the old and in with the new. That is where conflict is occurring. Far too many 'conservatives' are trying to conserve existing institutions riddled with progressive termites instead of replacing them with new institutions.
Even FDR realized that for the old bureaucrats to be sidelined, there would need to be new agencies staffed with true believers. That is what the right should be trying do. Keep the old failing bureaucracies but give their power to new institutions that can actually function.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 12:28 PM (1uM+d)
Grilled cheese sandwich and tomato soup is the food of the gods.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 22, 2023 12:28 PM (JrojV)
Cops are evil, and anyone who hurts cops should be in prison for life
My body my choice, and of course vaccines should be mandatory.
The list is endless
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:27 PM (bWsRe)
"Rules for Thee, but Not for Me"
One of the few prinicples the Left actually has.
Posted by: XTC at November 22, 2023 12:29 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: Billy Ray Valentine at November 22, 2023 12:29 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 22, 2023 12:28 PM (JrojV)
Had that last night... Home made tomato soup
Posted by: It's me donna at November 22, 2023 12:29 PM (bs+z0)
ICYMI -- 2nd link in JJ's Morning Report this morning (couldn't help but think of you -- only got through the first couple of paragraphs before having to bail for work):
Sohrab Ahmari: "Vivek Ramaswamy says he wants to 'make hard work cool again.' He isn’t the first."
Whiggism Is Still Wrong
https://is.gd/cWwiFK
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 22, 2023 12:29 PM (Wb3Uz)
I guess that would make him different from all the "online influencers" who have been paid by the DeSantis camp to attack Trump for the last year.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2023 12:29 PM (ZLI7S)
I was playing pinball in a local bar and watched a ton of that days live coverage.
I remember seeing one guy, with an American Flag, who made it onto the upper mezzanine where the cops were staged.
The Beating they gave him was Biblical. Probably 6-7 Cops with Batons, thoroughly shampooing him for a full 4-5 minutes.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:29 PM (oaDrA)
Today is the 60th anniversary of the deletion of JFK. The author of the book "To Move the World: JFK's Quest for Peace" describes how the IC and military subverted JFK's peace efforts, then draws a straight line through to current Ukraine conflict and how it was manufactured by uniparty stooges.
Fun factoid I didn't know before I saw this vid: Victoria Nuland was a foreign affairs advisor to Bush/Cheney
https://tinyurl.com/596awftj
Posted by: kallisto at November 22, 2023 12:30 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 12:28 PM (1uM+d)
Does the right even HAVE real "True Believers"?
Damn near EVERYBODY (that isn't a member of the Horde) is a Weak Sister on SOME issue.
Posted by: XTC at November 22, 2023 12:30 PM (sm6Pk)
Posted by: whig
Doubling the size of an unaffordable Leviathan doesn't seem like a good plan. Or are you hoping for a heart attack.
Posted by: DaveA at November 22, 2023 12:30 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: It's me donna
Agree. That was some truly bad acting in that scene. Sitting there fake crying about the trauma they endured by the evil Maga R's. I wish that someone had told them if they are such girly men, maybe LE isn't the career choice for them.
Posted by: Cheri at November 22, 2023 12:31 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:31 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: DaveA at November 22, 2023 12:30 PM (FhXTo)
I died in the saddle. Glorious!
Posted by: FDR at November 22, 2023 12:31 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 22, 2023 12:03 PM (XV/Pl)
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We should say that BLM was trying to "overthrow government" using the Jan-6 methodology.
If they ever get to the point of "Even if they had overtaken the White House, how would they remain in power?!"
You can just answer back, Jan-6 style: That's how stupid they were.
Thus all questions about what didn't appear to be an actual attempt at overthrowing a government can be answered because the people were stupid and didn't know how to overthrow a government.
However, here's a key thing: Our country would be much more crippled in an emergency with the chief executive cut off than the legislative. Were beating up cops outside of a government building the definition of "overthrowing the government", getting to the President is much closer than occupying the Capitol.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (krQz2)
Mystery forgotten 80's lyrics:
"Me and some guys from school
Had a band and we tried real hard
Jimmy quit and Jody got married
I should've known we'd never get far"
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (54Jyl)
But if brandishing a weapon and warning shots are problematic...why are rubber bullets ok?
Posted by: EFG at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (fQyy5)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (bWsRe)
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It wasn't a problem for his friends when Obama was president. Then, suddenly, it became a problem for reasons.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (17s+e)
But, I've been following Poso for a while, haven't seen any big blunders from him before.
But I agree on the wait-and-see approach.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:05 PM (krQz2)"
Poso is just making shit up half the time. I think he hasn't been as bad as of late, but during the 2016 cycle he was a serial fabulist
Posted by: Receptaculum Ignis at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (g4em/)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:31 PM (MoZTd)
got cornbread?
Posted by: BignJames at November 22, 2023 12:33 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 22, 2023 12:23 PM (Q0kLU)
I've already said it.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 22, 2023 12:24 PM (Zz0t1)
And we should listen to you why? Do you have 42 DDs?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2023 12:33 PM (CnLzB)
Posted by: EFG at November 22, 2023 12:33 PM (fQyy5)
Agree. That was some truly bad acting in that scene. Sitting there fake crying about the trauma they endured by the evil Maga R's. I wish that someone had told them if they are such girly men, maybe LE isn't the career choice for them.
Posted by: Cheri at November 22, 2023 12:31 PM (oiNtH)
IIANM, Capital Police is a patronage job for politicians from both sides of the aisle to dole out to LE constituents. Nominate a desk jockey to become a SWAT team member of the CP.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 22, 2023 12:33 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: EFG at November 22, 2023 12:33 PM (fQyy5)
I just dont get why Tucker Carlson didn't really open up all of this up. To me these videos have a bigger impact than just the Ray Epps angle.
Posted by: Blago at November 22, 2023 12:34 PM (wMRY8)
btw, anyone who can identify the mystery lyrics is a gay!
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2023 12:34 PM (54Jyl)
Had a band and we tried real hard
Jimmy quit and Jody got married
I should've known we'd never get far"
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (54Jyl)
Bryan Adams, "Summer of '69"
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 22, 2023 12:34 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Ralph Whiggism at November 22, 2023 12:34 PM (63Dwl)
DC_Draino @DC_Draino 36m
Did you know the Columbus Doors at the US Capitol are 17ft tall, solid brass, and weigh 10 tons each?
They’re impenetrable
J6 got crazy around 1pm, but guess what happened at 2:08?
Someone *opened the mag-locked doors* flooding hundreds into the fed trap
Who gave that order?!
https://tinyurl.com/43ds76j5
9 seconds; and who is yelling, "Goooo! Goooo! Goooo!"
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 22, 2023 12:34 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2023 12:34 PM (fwDg9)
Consider this new report from Just the News, which found video of a Metropolitan District of Columbia police officer explaining “we go undercover as Antifa.
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 22, 2023 12:35 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 22, 2023 12:32 PM (17s+e)
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They want centralized control to the point where they can determine what information goes where with a click of a button. It's lazy centralization where they say, "here's a pile of money, make it so that I can kill switch things I don't like."
Controlling information is really hard. Even when Twitter was in their hands, they still had to ramp up explicit misinformation efforts because the Internet is simply too open still to control information totally.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:35 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: It's me donna at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (bs+z0)
Repeat for anyone that has already been tried and found or pled guilty.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (Oq/TM)
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2023 12:34 PM (54Jyl)
*****
'Doh!!!
Did I just get outed?
Posted by: EFG at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (fQyy5)
But sure, nothing is happening.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (ZLI7S)
So far though, when people who have been saying for almost two years, that this stuff was NOT an insurrection, that it was, to borrow a phrase, mostly peaceful, the evidence has continued to show it.
And the other thing that is irrefutable now, is that the J6 committee, all the corporate media, and our so-called intelligence agencies were all lying. Damn near all of it was a lie.
This, along with everything else, should be kept in the public eyeball from now until November 5th, 2024, and beyond.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: FDR at November 22, 2023 12:31 PM (4I/2K)
High five, brah!
Posted by: Nelson Rockefeller at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (Q0kLU)
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Yup. At least one accused guy refused to take a plea deal, insisted on a bench trial, and got released by the judge after the judge reviewed the video evidence.
Posted by: junior at November 22, 2023 12:37 PM (3afOf)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 22, 2023 12:37 PM (roH4R)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 22, 2023 12:38 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Cheri at November 22, 2023 12:31 PM (oiNtH)
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You know what's sick?
I feel that it all could come out about Jan-6. The cops could fess up to their part and FIB to theirs and it could come up how the Capitol or the police or the FIB recruited antifa members to be there to bust things up.
And I feel that the politics of the Dems are such that it wouldn't change that many hearts.
Their politics are a politics of sympathy. If you're a group that has their sympathy, then they are ardent about expressing that sympathy. If you don't have your sympathy, they're apathetic to what happens to you--and some are would probably still be glad.
(This is one of the rare times I'm going to indulge in "reading other people's minds and hearts")
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:38 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 22, 2023 12:24 PM (Zz0t1)
And we should listen to you why? Do you have 42 DDs?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2023 12:33 PM (CnLzB)
There are days when I really envy you, Bander.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 22, 2023 12:38 PM (Q0kLU)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 22, 2023 12:38 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 22, 2023 12:38 PM (1V0Rz)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:38 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: JT at November 22, 2023 12:39 PM (T4tVD)
And we should listen to you why? Do you have 42 DDs?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 22, 2023 12:33 PM (CnLzB)
No, but I haven't painted the entire Horde with the broad brush of homo/trans phobia and abandoned everyone either.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 22, 2023 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)
Their politics are a politics of sympathy. If you're a group that has their sympathy, then they are ardent about expressing that sympathy. If you don't have your sympathy, they're apathetic to what happens to you--and some are would probably still be glad.
(This is one of the rare times I'm going to indulge in "reading other people's minds and hearts")
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:38 PM (krQz2)
Bingo. When you put the truth in a Leftist's face, you know what they do?
Laugh in your face and mock it.
Posted by: XTC at November 22, 2023 12:39 PM (sm6Pk)
I think its highly likely parts of J6 were an op.
Posted by: Harun at November 22, 2023 12:39 PM (c2WeP)
That's cocoo for Cocoa Puffs.
Posted by: Drive by at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (wYBlF)
I believe that's called "projection."
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 22, 2023 12:39 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: JT at November 22, 2023 12:39 PM (T4tVD)
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*waves enthusiastically*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:39 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (PiwSw)
This is what America has done in other countries for many, many years.
Maidan Coup, Arab Springs, Iranian Hijab protests, etc, etc.
It's a big part of why the rest of the world hates America so badly, not because they hate our freedom.
[These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
There is nothing righteous about this country.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (Zqeqr)
If they showed wild and crazy right wing Nazis we would have seen the tapes years ago.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:05 PM (1fLE7)
Otter 841 and her baby, of course!
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (Rbu5d)
Also, a poster in another thread asked for prayers for J and his family. J is a baby who turned blue and got rushed to hospital.
Thx so much for prayers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (x9rzT)
'JFK being murdered by the mob 60 years ago today'
The Salon bunch is pretty far out of touch with what the American people would consider believable.
For instance, quite a few people, left and right *would* believe JFK was killed by government entities.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (roH4R)
Today is the 60th anniversary of the deletion of JFK. The author of the book "To Move the World: JFK's Quest for Peace" describes how the IC and military subverted JFK's peace efforts, then draws a straight line through to current Ukraine conflict and how it was manufactured by uniparty stooges.
Fun factoid I didn't know before I saw this vid: Victoria Nuland was a foreign affairs advisor to Bush/Cheney
https://tinyurl.com/596awftj
Posted by: kallisto at November 22, 2023 12:30 PM (dCxaZ)
JFK was no standard-bearer for peace. The Uniparty murdering him was about control, pure and simple. They saw the Kennedy faction sweeping in and replacing 'their' people, so they removed him.
We did get war as a result but JFK was no pacifist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (BKOUD)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (MvF+J)
Jan 6 2021: What are those assholes doing at the Capitol?! (I was working that day, and only got brief updates).
~Mid Jan 2021: I'd seen enough that I started calling it "The Minsurrection"
I think about February or March, I knew that it was very likely a fed Op.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (xT8gx)
Not around, scared, or just ashamed?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 22, 2023 12:38 PM (17s+e)
Results have shown that Gaetz has been the single most effective Republican Congressman in at least 30 years. He acted when all others only talked, and he DID when all others said it was impossible. I don't care if you like him or do not like him - his Success cannot be denied. He Fought for our side, when all others only gave us excuses why this was not the right time to fight.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (x9rzT)
Prayers for the dear little one/ones
Posted by: It's me donna at November 22, 2023 12:42 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, rereading Rob Roy at November 22, 2023 12:42 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 22, 2023 12:42 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (oaDrA)
Hamas was thinking the same thing when they went after a peace music festival.
Posted by: Auspex at November 22, 2023 12:42 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:42 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (Cd885)
https://is.gd/VrFJX4
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (300wI)
Whiggism Is Still Wrong
https://is.gd/cWwiFK
Posted by: ShainS
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Yeah, I saw that. Sohrab misunderstands Whiggism (the older Glorious Revolution type) and cites Arthur Schleslinger as an authority. The problem with that is that Arthur was both a committed Democrat partisan and in particular a supporter and biographer of Andrew Jackson. Thus, it was natural for Arthur to cast the Democrats as virtuous and the proto Republican Whig party as evil plutocrats.
Whiggism is only partly part of the Protestant Work Ethic made famous by sociologist Max Weber. Instead of eternal class conflict, Whiggism promotes community and the common person's dignity and rights over the divide and conquer predisposition of the Democrats. Protectionism of native industries was actually supported in the era he cites by both Democrat and Republican/Whig parties and was not a major issue in contention. Instead it was slavery which Democrats celebrated and the Whig party equivocated until it collapsed and was reformed as the Republican party.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (1uM+d)
But if brandishing a weapon and warning shots are problematic...why are rubber bullets ok?
Posted by: EFG
Because they aren't considered firearms ... if wielded by cops.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (i9ffA)
But he didn’t have a plan b!!!!!ty
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 22, 2023 12:44 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (i9ffA)
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The best thing about Gaetz is that he killed the idea that you have to have an organization already in place behind a candidate in the congressional body to even start an uprising within a chamber.
Nah, go in and start swinging. Make it known that you'll keep swinging. Bring in a few friends along, and you can make some real changes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:44 PM (GBKbO)
'JFK being murdered by the mob 60 years ago today'
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The Salon bunch is pretty far out of touch with what the American people would consider believable.
For instance, quite a few people, left and right *would* believe JFK was killed by government entities.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (roH4R)
Anybody today claiming it was the mob what did it is part of the cover-up.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:44 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Blago at November 22, 2023 12:34 PM (wMRY
Supposedly Fox higherups shut it down, and then fired him a bit later.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (ZLI7S)
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Now, imagine the gullibility of mid-lefties.
- Never shown anything except snippets.
- Only asked to believe.
- Believe to the extent that releasing more documentation about that day is "dangerous" because their leaders told them it was "dangerous".
- Still adamant that the tape released that shows more of what Jan-6 was is "lies" and "deception" and let's not forget STILL "dangerous".
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (BKOUD)
David Crosby's vocals may be a little flat.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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"But, but, but, where is the plan, man!!!! We can't do better than McCarthy or we will get Jeffries as Speaker all due to Gaetz, the sky is falling, ree!!!!" "/sarc
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (1uM+d)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Xenu at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (DZrNt)
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (z5vMw)
Posted by: Blago at November 22, 2023 12:34 PM (wMRY
Supposedly Fox higherups shut it down, and then fired him a bit later.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (i9ffA)
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McCarthy didn't give Tucker anything. He gave Fox some of it. And then, oops, Tucker got fired. Oh well, Fox had it then, and tucker had nothing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (GBKbO)
We did get war as a result but JFK was no pacifist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (xcxpd)
Not a pacifist, no. What he DID do though, was resist the Deep State's efforts to get us into war with the Soviet Union. And he was in contact with Khrushchev, discussing this and that. Which they couldn't tolerate.
So they killed him.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:44 PM (dGCAG)
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I think I missed Oswald's association to "The Mob"?
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:36 PM (oaDrA)
==
Question for the lawyers here, does my Hobo Hunting permit cover Hippie Hunting too? If so do I get the same bag limit of both hobos and hippies or just the hobo bag limit?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:44 PM (dGCAG)
Well, the Mob and the Deep State are just two facets of the same rock.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (jFM6N)
Posted by: Lucy Mercer at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (Cd885)
!
Posted by: JT at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: InZona at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (qz1Fg)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 22, 2023 12:47 PM (JrojV)
https://is.gd/VrFJX4
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (300wI)
Oh no, a guy hired a prostitute or tried to....oh no.....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:47 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (Cd885)
JT's birdbath hardest hit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 22, 2023 12:47 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (GBKbO)
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"In the middle of the week, [Tucker] will be cut off and have nothing."
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:47 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (17s+e)
trust me, you really need to upgrade to the Hipster Douchebag permit.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 12:47 PM (i9ffA)
https://is.gd/VrFJX4
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (300wI)
Aren't they ALL part of a prostitution network?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 22, 2023 12:48 PM (Zqeqr)
Posted by: InZona at November 22, 2023 12:48 PM (qz1Fg)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY!
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Birds ARE real!
And they work for the Zionist Occupiers!!!
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 22, 2023 12:48 PM (krqg6)
But if brandishing a weapon and warning shots are problematic...why are rubber bullets ok?
Posted by: EFG
Because they aren't considered firearms ... if wielded by cops.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Not really clear about that and it depends on targeting. The Brits quit using rubber bullets in Northern Ireland in the last years of the Troubles due to deaths.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (1uM+d)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (
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I think that's not a fair comparison because the Mob at least has some scruples.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (z5vMw)
Posted by: Joe Biden at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (BKOUD)
https://is.gd/VrFJX4
Posted by: bonhomme
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So, he and Barney Fwank
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (XQET7)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:44 PM (dGCAG)
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I think I missed Oswald's association to "The Mob"?
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (krQz2)
Jack Ruby is the main mob connection, making sure Oswald couldn't testify.
Though Oswald was doing some shady stuff in New Orleans and there's probably some overlap there. The Deep State used the Mob for a lot of errands back then.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (Cd885)
Then who's using my birdbath ?
The CIA ?
Posted by: JT at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 22, 2023 12:40 PM (Zqeqr)
Yup. We're the baddies.
Which is why I would tell anyone who loves Israel, to not let the U.S. of A. be involved in whatever decisions they're making these days.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (Cd885)
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It's owls. The owls aren't real.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (krQz2)
Not around, scared, or just ashamed?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 22, 2023 12:38 PM (17s+e)
Results have shown that Gaetz has been the single most effective Republican Congressman in at least 30 years. He acted when all others only talked, and he DID when all others said it was impossible. I don't care if you like him or do not like him - his Success cannot be denied. He Fought for our side, when all others only gave us excuses why this was not the right time to fight.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 12:41 PM (i9ffA)
Still not a Gaetz fan. He certainly is better at counting Dem votes than I expected, and he's lucky. He violated a basic political rule: If you decapitate the current leadership, you better have the replacement(s) signed off and vetted. Of course, he didn't, and got away with it, thank God.
Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2023 12:50 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (Cd885)
Don't get on an airplane.
Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2023 12:50 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 22, 2023 12:50 PM (BKOUD)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:47 PM (xcxpd)
An underage prostitute, it seems. Gas him.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (jFM6N)
Still, I find "The Irishman" enormously entertaining.
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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That means that cops can unload in black neighborhoods if they are only shooting rubber bullets, right?
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2023 12:50 PM (rj6Yv)
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That rule sounds like bullshit written by the leadership to protect themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Paladin at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (ZPK2E)
- Never shown anything except snippets.
- Only asked to believe.
- Believe to the extent that releasing more documentation about that day is "dangerous" because their leaders told them it was "dangerous".
- Still adamant that the tape released that shows more of what Jan-6 was is "lies" and "deception" and let's not forget STILL "dangerous".
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (krQz2)
And that's not even to mention video of Bowman pulling the fire alarm.
Posted by: InZona at November 22, 2023 12:52 PM (qz1Fg)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:47 PM (xcxpd)
An underage prostitute, it seems. Gas him.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (jFM6N)
Oh was he trying to get a kid? That's different. Pedos get the bullet.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:52 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 22, 2023 12:52 PM (/tEOA)
But McCarthy is a barely functioning retard, so he never really thought of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 22, 2023 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
More, by not releasing these videos, he was part of the illegal cover up of exculpatory evidence. There are people in Jail today, because he did not have the nads to release these tapes.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2023 12:52 PM (xaFKb)
Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2023 12:50 PM (rj6Yv)
Sometimes chaos is needed to muddle through the bullshit.
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:52 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:44 PM (dGCAG)
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I think I missed Oswald's association to "The Mob"?
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:46 PM (krQz2)
Yeah no, Oswald as a CIA construct. No direct connection to the mob. Unless you consider the CIA its own mob, which I do.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:52 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2023 12:53 PM (t8QF6)
I personally think all the secrecy is because LHO was in fact an intelligence asset, but he was a total loonie who was completely uncontrollable.
The "magic bullet" zigzag path was created by people who missed the fact that Connelly was in a jump seat.
The pristine bullet only looks pristine when photographed from one side. In fact, it's bent like a banana and squished.
The people who claim the kill shots were ridiculously difficult are the worst of all. It was a 100 yard shot at a steep downward angle at a slow moving car with Kennedy's massive pumpkin head as the target. Anyone with a few hours of rangetime could make that shot.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 12:53 PM (300wI)
Jack Ruby is the main mob connection, making sure Oswald couldn't testify.
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If you had some deep, dark plot to assassinate the president, you wouldn't hire a loser like Oswald, who was caught almost immediately.
If you had some deep, dark plot to assassinate Oswald, you wouldn't hire an erratic blabbermouth like Ruby, who wouldn't have even been on time if Oswald hadn't wanted to change his shirt.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:53 PM (MoZTd)
https://is.gd/VrFJX4
Posted by: bonhomme
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Specifically he was causing human trafficking in order to supply pimps with wimmen. Notably, the guy's lived in the Atlanta metro area which is one of the focus points for both drug and human trafficking (due to interstates converging and Hartsfield International Airport).
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 12:53 PM (1uM+d)
Not really clear about that and it depends on targeting. The Brits quit using rubber bullets in Northern Ireland in the last years of the Troubles due to deaths.
Posted by: whig a
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Instead of quibbling over lethal and non-lethal they could use water cannons as the do in Europe.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 12:53 PM (XQET7)
- Never shown anything except snippets.
- Only asked to believe.
- Believe to the extent that releasing more documentation about that day is "dangerous" because their leaders told them it was "dangerous".
- Still adamant that the tape released that shows more of what Jan-6 was is "lies" and "deception" and let's not forget STILL "dangerous".
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (krQz2)
And that's not even to mention video of Bowman pulling the fire alarm.
Posted by: InZona at November 22, 2023 12:52 PM (qz1Fg)
Then again, maybe not gullible. Just will to power. They know it's all lies, but it helps them gain power. Until it doesn't and they're up against a wall.
Posted by: InZona at November 22, 2023 12:53 PM (qz1Fg)
Posted by: Paladin at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (ZPK2E)
I'm 2 hours from the Bay Area, in the Central Valley. Yes, we have more homeless here the last couple of weeks.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2023 12:53 PM (xaFKb)
youtube.com/watch?v=z9BOh6e0_G8
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:54 PM (MvF+J)
Though Oswald was doing some shady stuff in New Orleans and there's probably some overlap there. The Deep State used the Mob for a lot of errands back then.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (xcxpd)
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I get Ruby's association. But Ruby didn't kill JFK. He killed JFK's (ostensible) killer. If there are rumors of Oswald doing jobs for the mob, those are rumors, not a clear connection. It would be a clear connection that would make it clear that the Mob killed Kennedy.
Otherwise, it's a theory.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:54 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:43 PM (Cd885)
.......
I keep filling the feeder, wonder what's eating all that.
Posted by: wth at November 22, 2023 12:54 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Peyroni at November 22, 2023 12:54 PM (FHllF)
Birds aren't real! They're little robots spying on you. It's all an op!
And your birdbath needs a good cleaning.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 22, 2023 12:55 PM (MpuTt)
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2023 12:55 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
That's a rule written in blood, TJM.
Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2023 12:55 PM (rj6Yv)
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Still, I find "The Irishman" enormously entertaining.
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (MvF+J)
I didn't hate it, but I'm of the belief Scorsese has been making the same damn movie for decades now. I refer to it as Irish Goodfellas.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:55 PM (dGCAG)
https://is.gd/VrFJX4
Posted by: bonhomme
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So, he and Barney Fwank
Posted by: Braenyard
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Except...this guy is in charge of childrens schools
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 12:55 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Paladin at November 22, 2023 12:51 PM (ZPK2E)
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They just got pushed out a mile or two and are trickling back to their drug sources.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 22, 2023 12:55 PM (RIvkX)
https://tinyurl.com/2u9auvfm
Posted by: Cheri at November 22, 2023 12:55 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:55 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: wth at November 22, 2023 12:54 PM (v0R5T)
The CIA.
Duh.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: wth at November 22, 2023 12:54 PM (v0R5T)
Mwahahaha!
Posted by: The Squirrels at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (jFM6N)
'Whiggism promotes community and the common person's dignity and rights'
Well, yeah. You'd say so.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (roH4R)
Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2023 12:50 PM (rj6Yv)
It reminds me of the difference, back in the American Civil War, between Grant and McClellan. McClellan was brilliant, but he wouldn't move until he was confident that he had every last detail of the campaign planned out with exact certainty - and consequently he always found reasons NOT to do anything today.
Grant's attitude was "Fuck it, we're attacking."
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: wth at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: SMOD at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:55 PM (dGCAG)
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I know. Kundun is pretty much the same movie as Goodfellas. Silence is pretty much exactly the same as Wolf of Wall Street. Gangs of New York and Age of Innocence are practically identical.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
1. The police are a racist organization that just can't control their hatred of and violence toward minorities.
2. They are so allied to racist, that if you're conservative and they say that you committed a crime, that must have been some crime you committed--and they can't be doubted.
They just have one-thing in common, it fits into the Democrat narrative. That's all.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:16 PM (krQz2)
I don't think it's racism (though there are some pretty blatant and nasty examples here and there) moreso than a combination of us v. them mentality, lack of accountability, low IQs, a propensity for violence, and a dash of sadism.
Posted by: They're mostly arrogant bullies at November 22, 2023 12:57 PM (8vw5b)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 12:57 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Skip at November 22, 2023 12:57 PM (fwDg9)
'Anybody today claiming it was the mob what did it '
Shit, even Oliver Stone said that 30 years ago. And he's a confirmed nutcase.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 22, 2023 12:57 PM (roH4R)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 12:58 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Axeman
Not worth the incoming fire.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 22, 2023 12:58 PM (IG4Id)
Otherwise, it's a theory.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:54 PM (krQz2)
Most likely Oswald didn't kill him. Now these doctors are claiming there was a massive head wound in the back, which would indicate a frontal shot.
Me though, I'm of the belief these guys are part of the coverup too, these old docs are being told to talk now, and claiming a rear head wound that wasn't there.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 12:58 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Son of Dad at November 22, 2023 12:58 PM (8JB5s)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2023 12:59 PM (t8QF6)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 22, 2023 12:59 PM (9yUzE)
The only problem with this statement is that the wounds don't match with that trajectory.
He was shot in the Right temple, which blew the back of his skull out.
He was also shot in the throat. From the front. (Windshield had a bullet hole in it from what is believed to be this shot).
And he had a bullet that hit him in the back of the shoulder that didn't penetrate.
Other than that...yeah, chip shot.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 12:59 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: mrp
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Leadership elections don't work that way because of secret ballots where you do not know where you stand until the back benchers vote. They are just more unusual in the US versus parliamentary systems. Ordinarily, in the past, the team moves up (for example when Jim Wright resigned) but in this case, it was the whole leadership of the GOP House that was at fault which is why Scalise nor Emmer had a chance--they were to the left of the median GOP congress critter and tainted by their support for McCarthy. He is should have been kicked out of Congress for his Luntz problem years ago. The Newt Gingrich removal had Livingston nominated and then resigning due to sex crimes when Pedo Hastert was substituted from the back benches so it was chaotic too. Boehner and some other Northern GOPe types instituted kicking out Newt as well.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (1uM+d)
Posted by: 2 Hordes in 1 as Always at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (FHllF)
Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2023 12:50 PM (rj6Yv)
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That rule sounds like bullshit written by the leadership to protect themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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The rule is: If you go after the king you kill him.
Gaetz did his job he killed the king.
There is a protocol for electing a replacement and House members had ample time to prepare but like good little pubbies
they sat on their thumbs.
However, God on our side, a good man ascended to the top.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (XQET7)
I clearly remember a clip of an older woman yelling at the KKK member and saying "Why did you pull me in here? I didn't want to come inside?"
Posted by: Nikki Haley at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (NdB+W)
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2023 12:52 PM (xaFKb)
Unfortunately, what McCarthy did was not illegal, but it was certainly immoral and dishonorable.
Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell.
Because yeah, the ones I've seen, they're all basically the same. WOWS is White Collar Goodfellas.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (dGCAG)
Yep. The crowd is just milling around and they start hitting the middle with flashbangs. Normally cops hit the outer edge of a crowd on the side opposite the direction the police want to push the crowd. Not so in this case.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (300wI)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2023 12:59 PM (t8QF6)
If stolen from Hong Kong first.
But despite/because of that...some nice twists in The Departed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (bWsRe)
Posted by: SMOD at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (RHGPo)
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Tucker's first docu on Fox Nation showed what it had of flashbangs into a peaceful crowd.
Their domestic political enemies are the only group the mid-left would allow this for.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: SMOD at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (RHGPo)
I've seen it before too. I'd like to know who ordered the code red. Someone had to give the order and why did they give that order.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (l3Uxg)
If that wound wasn't there, it would be hard to explain the skull fragments and brain all over the tonneau cover and trunk lid.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: Luke Skywalker at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (FHllF)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
Daniel Day Lewis plays practically the same character in both!
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 01:02 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:49 PM (krQz2)
The owls are not what they seem.
Posted by: The Giant at November 22, 2023 01:02 PM (8vw5b)
Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (rj6Yv)
Criminal Conspiracy to Deprive citizens of Civil Rights under cover of Law.
Yes, it is illegal.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2023 01:02 PM (xaFKb)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 22, 2023 01:02 PM (t8QF6)
Posted by: mrp
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?
Why does an abused spouse need to go ahead and get a new relationship started before ending the abusive relationship?
There is no downside to dragging the House to a halt. None. A government shutdown is a bonus.
Posted by: Nikki Haley at November 22, 2023 01:02 PM (NdB+W)
"The president has just been shot! It's in the news!"
No one spoke a word for a few brief seconds, then there were shouted questions. "Where?"
"Is he dead?"
The thing I remember best from that day is the image of Johnson on the plane taking the oath. And from the days that followed, the riderless horse in the funeral, and Jackie.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 22, 2023 01:03 PM (ZtgZZ)
Posted by: barbarausa at November 22, 2023 01:03 PM (enw9G)
Possibly Officer Tippet, too.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (oaDrA)
Ruby shot JD Tippet? That's a theory I've never heard.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 22, 2023 01:03 PM (Q0kLU)
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (300wI)
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And that's what I'm saying. The casualty comes when the Kops hit a guy in the chest with a flashbang and we later hear he "suffered a heart attack".
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 01:03 PM (krQz2)
>>Especially the ones in Rhode Island.
Something is eating all that damn bird seed.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2023 01:03 PM (ZLI7S)
That's not the hard part. The hard part is shooting him from a fixed position and having entrance wounds in the front, back AND quartering.
No way there was only one shooter.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:04 PM (oaDrA)
I do not get my 'news' from here (I call it The Tin-Foil Hat Blog, only half in jest, and I include my own Tin-Foil Hat business) or anywhere else, I have my own sources for anything serious, but if most of the United States gets their information from cable TV?
We are DOOMED.
Posted by: LenNeal at November 22, 2023 01:05 PM (/BBNv)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 01:05 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (bWsRe)
One of my favorite lines in "Usual Suspects" is from Stephen Baldwin, as he lines up targets with his sniper rifle and gets ready to take a bunch out; says quietly, to himself, "Oswald was a fag."
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2023 01:05 PM (i9ffA)
[I know I put my shocked face somewhere around here...]
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 22, 2023 01:05 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Braenyard
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Historical footage of water hoses being used against Civil Rights protesters is why.
Still, one of the most effective crowd measures as wet soaked protesters are demoralized and it renders molotovs, flares, and smoke bombs fairly useless.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 01:06 PM (1uM+d)
Posted by: redridinghood at November 22, 2023 01:07 PM (NpAcC)
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If you had some deep, dark plot to assassinate the president, you wouldn't hire a loser like Oswald, who was caught almost immediately.
If you had some deep, dark plot to assassinate Oswald, you wouldn't hire an erratic blabbermouth like Ruby, who wouldn't have even been on time if Oswald hadn't wanted to change his shirt.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 22, 2023 12:53 PM (MoZTd)
I think Ruby was a good choice. He's very compromised and controllable (his sex life). He was wired in with the corrupt Dallas PD, making it possible for him to make the hit.
The FBI has been using sexual freakshows as killers for a while now. And he was disposable, not a lot of people mourned Jack Ruby when the State killed him too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 01:07 PM (xcxpd)
Oswald couldn't have done it and been at the Theatre. Timing is off.
Also, Oswald's gun from the Theatre was inoperable.
And they found Oswald's wallet at the Tippet scene...
and on him when he was arrested at the movie theatre.
And they found Oswald's jacket a block away from the Tippet Scene...a
nd also at the Depository.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:07 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell.
Because yeah, the ones I've seen, they're all basically the same. WOWS is White Collar Goodfellas.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (dGCAG)
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Yes, I'm being sarcastic. He make a lot more than mob movies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at November 22, 2023 01:07 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (oaDrA)
Not really, eyewitnesses said it was the front skullcap, and it flew up (due to the trajectory of the round fragments that blew it off), and landed behind them on the trunk and whatnot.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 22, 2023 01:07 PM (dGCAG)
'Now these doctors are claiming there was a massive head wound in the back, which would indicate a frontal shot.'
I believe autopsy photos are available. At least there were 25 years in a book I read (and subsequently lost). The head wound looked lethal to me.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 22, 2023 01:07 PM (roH4R)
The mafia had a huge motif.
Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2023 01:08 PM (gmo/4)
No, he was shot in the back of the head.
https://is.gd/tAPwT6
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 01:08 PM (300wI)
>>Especially the ones in Rhode Island.
Something is eating all that damn bird seed.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2023 01:03 PM (ZLI7S)
tree rats
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 01:08 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2023 01:08 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Montec at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (bWsRe)
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The distances involved? For a trained rifleman, not a difficult shot. I'd also add, when I first started looking into the shooting, all accounts made it seem like this amazing shot, which it wasn't. In fact, at that distance, a scope wasn't all that necessary.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 22, 2023 01:09 PM (z5vMw)
The mafia had a huge motif.
Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2023 01:08 PM (gmo/4)
The Mafia was a tool, not the mover and shaker (or primary shooter). They couldn't manipulate Kennedy's schedule or security, etc.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 01:09 PM (xcxpd)
Gaetz did his job he killed the king.
There is a protocol for electing a replacement and House members had ample time to prepare but like good little pubbies
they sat on their thumbs.
However, God on our side, a good man ascended to the top.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:00 PM (XQET7)
I think the idea was that after the regicide, a suitable rex was waiting in the wings for his coronation. Nature and politicas abhor a vacuum. That's another "rule".
Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2023 01:09 PM (rj6Yv)
No way there was only one shooter.
Posted by: garrett
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I tend to agree but essentially the PTB have the American public where they want them. Without the critical evidence or knowing what evidence is true or not, it comes down to we can never know.
Robert Lincoln believed that there was a broader conspiracy to do his father in as well because of his relatively leniency toward the former Confederate states. I seem to remember Robert Lincoln suspected Sec of War Stanton of enabling it. No way of knowing that either.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 01:10 PM (1uM+d)
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*That* has always perplexed me. If I have it right, a completely undamaged slug was found on his gurney at the hospital.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 01:11 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 01:12 PM (MvF+J)
Funny, because he still had a face when they buried him. Go look for photos of the body. He didn't lose the front of his skull or his eye. Both of which would be gone if he was shot from behind.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:13 PM (oaDrA)
And where did this individual learn this skill? In the Marines. Outstanding.
- Gunnery Sergeant Hartman
Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2023 01:13 PM (gmo/4)
This is what America has done in other countries for many, many years.
Maidan Coup, Arab Springs, Iranian Hijab protests, etc, etc.
It's a big part of why the rest of the world hates America so badly, not because they hate our freedom.
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We're gonna need a lot more colors for future Deep State-sponsored revolutions ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 22, 2023 01:13 PM (QJHXT)
Posted by: mrp
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Not the same as a parliamentary leader. The executive represents the whole country whether a king, a president, or some other titular head. The parliamentary job is a grubby one of pushing legislation through and usually that involves log rolling aka promises to help supporting members and punishing recalcitrant ones. Not the same thing. That is why to replace the presidency has the constitutional VP and then an actual statute of succession of leaders in Congress and then cabinet ministers by date of the department's founding.
Posted by: whig at November 22, 2023 01:14 PM (1uM+d)
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM (oaDrA)
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and Kennedy's brains would have been splattered over Connally's back.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:14 PM (XQET7)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 01:11 PM (XeU6L)
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I've always attributed that to somebody's bad idea of "settling down the controversy".
But, yeah, no way I think that's not artificial.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 01:14 PM (krQz2)
Nope. It looks undamaged when photographed from one angle. From other angles you can see it's bent like a banana and squished.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 01:14 PM (300wI)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 01:15 PM (MvF+J)
If that wound wasn't there, it would be hard to explain the skull fragments and brain all over the tonneau cover and trunk lid.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:01 PM
There was a story that Jackie retrieved a hunk of brain and handed to a Doctor at the hospital. As if they could just shove it back in. Shock will make you do strange stuff.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 22, 2023 01:15 PM (enJYY)
I'd have used iron sights at that distance. Scope wasn't necessary at all and probably wouldn't have been zeroed to such a short distance.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 22, 2023 01:16 PM (7B5FA)
The car was moving at 10 mph. At that steep angle, it's barely moving.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 01:16 PM (300wI)
Bullets don't bend.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:17 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 22, 2023 01:15 PM (enJYY)
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Well we've seen the footage of her crawling out over the trunk. She definitely was in shock.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 01:17 PM (krQz2)
*That* has always perplexed me. If I have it right, a completely undamaged slug was found on his gurney at the hospital.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Referred to as 'the magic bullet'.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:17 PM (XQET7)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 01:17 PM (MvF+J)
How many have you retrieved from a body?
Because I have removed roughly 100 of them from game animals.
They compress and fragment. They never bend/extrude.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:19 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 01:20 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Paladin at November 22, 2023 01:20 PM (ZPK2E)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:17 PM (XQET7)
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"That's one magic loogey!"
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 01:21 PM (krQz2)
See this study. The skull damage is perfectly consistent with a shot from behind.
https://is.gd/tAPwT6
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 01:21 PM (300wI)
That was a Bill Hicks bit.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:21 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 01:21 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: gp's Tension Processing Unit at November 22, 2023 01:17 PM (MvF+J)
pics plz?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 01:22 PM (xcxpd)
Were they shot into bone?
No. They were not.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:22 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:23 PM (XQET7)
Posted by: Paladin at November 22, 2023 01:20 PM (ZPK2E)
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What did they show me from a completely different angle?
And "Where have you been hiding this film for 50 years?!" if it's not obvious from the film why they've been hiding it for 50 years.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 01:23 PM (krQz2)
It IS remarkable that Oswald got around as much as he did. He seems to have been, as a person, no more than a marginal personality. And yet, there is Cuba, Russia, and more obscurely, previous to that his assignment to the Atsugi MACS-1 radar control unit, where he would have has access to radar and radio codes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 01:20 PM
What is truly amazing is that Oswald's defection to the USSR was notably printed in the New York Times, the 'Paper of Record'.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 22, 2023 01:24 PM (enJYY)
Jan 6 2021: What are those assholes doing at the Capitol?! (I was working that day, and only got brief updates).
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That was me as well.
My first comment here upon first hearing the news (on the radio while driving for work): "Make Storming The Bastille Great Again!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 22, 2023 01:24 PM (4/Esc)
See this study. The skull damage is perfectly consistent with a shot from behind.
https://is.gd/tAPwT6
Posted by: bonhomme at November 22, 2023 01:21 PM (300wI)
I can't say I find that study persuasive, though it is intended to persuade. I'd say the study was set up to get the result they wanted.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 22, 2023 01:24 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 22, 2023 01:24 PM (z5vMw)
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 22, 2023 01:26 PM (z5vMw)
Zapruder 313, you can see his brain avulsed from his right temple. Looks like a shot from behind to me.
Added to my vocabulary. Never know when it might be needed in casual conversation.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 22, 2023 01:27 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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I've never recovered so much as a lead buckshot from a deer that was not visibly deformed. I do have an interesting .50 cal Civil War slug that is 'banana-ed'. My assumption has always been that it skimmed into the dirt, as it was found in a plowed field around Kennesaw.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 01:27 PM (XeU6L)
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Pictures and testimony say the bullet was virtually pristine.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:28 PM (XQET7)
You'd need a round to be traveling well under 2700' /s and of solid construction to hope to achieve a bend without losing the mass from fragmentation.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:29 PM (oaDrA)
I shot an bullet into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For, so swiftly it flew, the sight
Could not follow it in its flight.
Posted by: Henry Wadsworth Oswald at November 22, 2023 01:31 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:28 PM (XQET7)
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It's not impossible to think Italian quality control wasn't up to snuff and that particular round had insufficient powder in the case.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 22, 2023 01:32 PM (z5vMw)
That can only happen with a soft tissue hit and pass through...and that leaves a gigantic exit would and turns everything inside the body into pudding.
I have shot deer like this and you could pour their organs out when it happens.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:32 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: Blake
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But, consider that the velocity was so low that the trajectory would have been very different than a sound round. And yet, it landed somewhere on Kennedy's clothes, only to fall out onto the gurney later
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 01:35 PM (XeU6L)
Several people have claimed that they placed that bullet on the gurney.
It did not fall out of the body.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:36 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: Blake
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So you're saying it had something to do with spaghetti-bending?
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 01:36 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:37 PM (XQET7)
Several people have claimed that they placed that bullet on the gurney.
It did not fall out of the body.
Posted by: garrett
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I agree.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 01:37 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Blake
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Perhaps made by Fiat.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 22, 2023 01:38 PM (XeU6L)
It did not fall out of the body.
Posted by: garrett
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Of course not but that thought was published as fact.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 22, 2023 01:38 PM (XQET7)
That would leave at least 2 left in the strip to be cataloged and tested.
But that wasn't the case. We have no reports of additional / unused ammo or an empty strip.
Oswald was a patsy.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:38 PM (oaDrA)
He did not see Oswald.
But, Oswald WAS seen downstairs by witnesses. One who changed a dollar for him so he could buy a coke from the vending machine.
I know Oswald is believed to be in Mexico City when we know he was in another location at the same time (Louisiana, I think?).
So. Maybe he was just really, really good at being in two places concurrently?
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:43 PM (oaDrA)
Posted by: Drive by at November 22, 2023 01:43 PM (MNhXM)
I'm just playing a bit of devil's advocate.
What really strikes me as odd about the choice of milsurp rifles, why the Carcano? At the time, the country was awash with surplus Garands, which would have been much closer to the M1A Oswald probably trained with in the military.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 22, 2023 01:46 PM (z5vMw)
I don't know how you can come to that conclusion.
He did not want to invade Cuba. Military brass and IC insisted that it was the only way to protect the US. So he caved but with the condition that there would be no air support provided.
The Limited Nuclear Test Ban Treaty was finally signed in 1963 after JFK and Kruschev understood how dangerously close they had come to nuclear war. These negotiations had begun in 1955 but there was never any agreement reached until JFK was
POTUS.
The commencement address he delivered at American University was written and guarded with the utmost secrecy. Its contents would have enraged all the usual uniparty suspects:
https://tinyurl.com/5dsa66bx
Here is an excerpt:
I speak of peace, therefore, as the necessary rational end of rational men. I realize that the pursuit of peace is not as dramatic as the pursuit of war--and frequently the words of the pursuer fall on deaf ears. But we have no more urgent task.
He famously was set to pull US troops out of Vietnam. Instead he was killed and under warhawk/criminal/POS LBJ we got the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
https://tinyurl.com/
Posted by: kallisto at November 22, 2023 01:46 PM (dCxaZ)
Yeah. Warren Commission did a bang up job of muddying ALL the waters.
Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2023 01:53 PM (oaDrA)
I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH to know for a fact that such a claim is credible.
I have seen our police state organs fabricate crimes to frame others of commiting. At least most of the time when a frame-up is done at least an actual crime occured. They have done this all the way up to the President.
If they have done that how hard is it to pop a few randum people in a crowd.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 22, 2023 01:53 PM (cOq4q)
- Never shown anything except snippets.
- Only asked to believe.
- Believe to the extent that releasing more documentation about that day is "dangerous" because their leaders told them it was "dangerous".
- Still adamant that the tape released that shows more of what Jan-6 was is "lies" and "deception" and let's not forget STILL "dangerous".
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2023 12:45 PM (krQz2)
And that's not even to mention video of Bowman pulling the fire alarm.
Posted by: InZona at November 22, 2023 12:52 PM (qz1Fg)
Girl928 believes whatever the whispery voices of NPR tells her.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 22, 2023 01:55 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 22, 2023 01:59 PM (aD39U)
there is video of a cop hurling stun grenades into the crowd ... not at anyone fighting the cops ... just into the crowd standing around ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at November 22, 2023 02:14 PM (DBAaD)
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