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Drama Alert: Ben Shapiro Calls Out Daily Wire Employee Candace Owens for Her "Ridiculous" Opinions on Israel

Is she still a Daily Wire employee? A source I have codenamed "Commenter" says she removed the Daily Wire tags from her Twitter bio. Another source, also codenamed "Commenter," said that she was near the end of her contract.

Owens has been caught repeating false claims from the left before:

I don't think that one incident is disqualifying. Little secret about being a public bloviator, which I'm sure none of you ever realized before, because I do exhaustive research before writing every post: We don't know what the f*** we're talking about at least 70% of the time and we basically learn by saying stupid things and then being corrected by people who know more than we do.

She's also getting knocked for deploying a line favored by Ilhan Omar, that people only support Israel because they're being paid to do so:

I disagree with her on that, but let's face it, she's just going down a path that conservative favorite Tucker Carlson has been trailblazing for a while.

I've been complaining for a while that conservatives are acting like drunks who just discovered that alcohol was something they can't handle -- completely repudiating all prior positions on foreign policy. Were we too credulous of the Deep State and various militarists? Well then, we'll now hypercorrect and disavow the support of any foreign country and likewise denounce the idea of America having any opinions on foreign nations' behavior.

That's a bit extreme, isn't? Couldn't we first just try recognizing that we tend to get drunk when we open a bottle of Militarism so we should sip from it carefully and with full awareness that we have a problem with the stuff?

Do we really have to rush from one fatally-flawed extreme -- blind allegiance to anyone promising foreign adventures -- to the other fatally-flawed extreme, justifying the repulsive behavior of foreign behaviors?

And the people pushing the idea that we shouldn't support Israel because, by doing so, we "involve ourselves in a foreign dispute," need to explain to me how arguing against Israel's war on Hamas does not similarly "involve us in a foreign dispute," just on the other side.

I do find it a little weird that Candace Owens keeps pushing anti-Israel propaganda favored by the left -- and of course the alt-right, too -- but no one is required to be in 100% lockstep with "conservative consensus," which no longer even exists.

At any rate:


Ben Shapiro was asked about Owens' various statements. He pronounced them "ridiculous" and stupidity posing as "faux sophistication."

Note that in the below video, he does not call Candace Owens an anti-semite. That's the gloss added by the person linking the video.

My basic take is that I don't really agree with Owens and I find myself thinking she's a callow alt-rght hustler half the time and a decent commentator the other half. I do not approve of attacks on her for merely "platforming" Andrew Tate, or for not rushing to #Cancel Kanye West. I thought that we on the right had generally come to the realization that Snap Cancellations, and playing six degrees of cancellation (where you cancel people just for giving a "platform" to someone who's been cancelled), were bad things, generally.

And no, that doesn't mean we have to "accept everyone" nor does it mean we've abandoned the right to exclude people who are plainly bad actors. Just that we should be a lot more cautious about cancelling people, and only do so when the person in question is legitimately heinous and deserves the punishment we are urging. And cancellation is a social death penalty, which causes many of the people suffering the penalty to strongly consider suicide as an alternative, and some to actually take their own lives.

I'm not saying it's not sometimes the right and proper tactic. I'm just saying: I thought we'd all been through this enough ourselves to be extremely hesitant to push for this penalty.

I'm not even knocking L'il Ben Shapiro, who also retains all of his right to express himself and knock Owens for her, um, shaky and dubious thoughts on Israel.

Owens seems to be leaving the Daily Wire. That's fine. And it's fine that Shapiro doesn't want to renew her contract. He doesn't owe her a job and besides, she's an independent contractor. She'll just start her own Owens Wire and be just fine.

I'm only counseling against hastily-made decision to cancel Owens -- or cancel Ben Shapiro, for that matter -- given what we've all learned about cancelling people. To wit, it feels too damn good to rush out to destroy a stranger's life, and so we ought to be very suspicious about cruelty that comes in the guise of sanctimony.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:32 PM




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1 This is one of those fights where I think everything that Shapiro says about Candace is accurate, and everything Candace (and everyone else) says about Shapiro is accurate. 2 pigs wrestling in the mud, a pox on both their houses.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 05:34 PM (i9ffA)

2 Shit Roomba

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 14, 2023 05:34 PM (krqg6)

3 Afternoon

Posted by: Beartooth at November 14, 2023 05:34 PM (y8ulm)

4 We don't know what the f*** we're talking about at least 70% of the time and we basically learn by saying stupid things and then being corrected.
-
That's pretty much human existence.

And most of that tends to involve repeated injury until we figure it out.

Posted by: Methos at November 14, 2023 05:35 PM (Dnobf)

5 An antisemite of color? Why, I never!

Posted by: Wally at November 14, 2023 05:35 PM (hqVaF)

6 Rats, had to change my sock before posting so as to keep this place classy but it cost me a first

Posted by: Beartooth at November 14, 2023 05:35 PM (y8ulm)

7 Heard this on the Dana show. Owens sounded like an idiot who never heard of Israel before.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 14, 2023 05:36 PM (d2bW3)

8
This is like an in-depth analysis of the WNBA playoffs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 14, 2023 05:36 PM (MoZTd)

9 >>> "... we ought to be very suspicious about cruelty that comes in the guise of sanctimony."

But that is the best kind of cruelty.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 14, 2023 05:37 PM (cOq4q)

10 >>>This is like an in-depth analysis of the WNBA playoffs.

thank you, I'm trying to get a gig as a commentator! Go #Liberty!!!

Posted by: ace at November 14, 2023 05:37 PM (KRtlO)

11 5 An antisemite of color? Why, I never!
Posted by: Wally at November 14, 2023 05:35 PM (hqVaF)

LOL. Candace is basically Ye West in drag. And by that I mean Ye West amuses the hell out of me at times - but I would never, ever, not in a hundred years trust him about anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 05:37 PM (i9ffA)

12 I'm only counseling against hastily-made decision to cancel Owens -- or cancel Ben Shapiro, for that matter -- given what we've all learned about cancelling people. To wit, it feels too damn good to rush out to destroy a stranger's life, and so we ought to be very suspicious about cruelty that comes in the guise of sanctimony.


You can take my Megyn Kelly waifu pillow from my cold dead and sticky hands.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 05:38 PM (aD39U)

13 What? Baby Ben trying to undercut another personality?

This is a new one for him...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:38 PM (xcxpd)

14 And the people pushing the idea that we shouldn't support Israel because, by doing so, we "involve ourselves in a foreign dispute," need to explain to me how arguing against Israel's war on Hamas does not similarly involve us in a foreign dispute, just on the other side.

There have been over 50 Attacks against American Military in the region in the last couple of weeks, mainly by Iran backed Groups, supporting Hamas.

Its not that we are involving ourself, its that they have declared war on us already.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 14, 2023 05:38 PM (xaFKb)

15 Ben Shapiro is the Sean Hannity of storage locker Auctioneers.

Posted by: wth at November 14, 2023 05:38 PM (v0R5T)

16 Kayfabe.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 14, 2023 05:38 PM (44ww/)

17 "I'm only counseling against hastily-made decision to cancel Owens -- or cancel Ben Shapiro, for that matter -- given what we've all learned about cancelling people."

Does this also apply to Donald Trump? I will say that in the interest of full disclosure I WANT to support Trump. The problem is of late he has said and done some things that make me throw my hands up.

In the last analysis, he is one of the good guys, flawed as he is in many ways. Whatever the hell is between Owens and Shapiro, who are also both good and not so good at times, they are all ostensibly on our side.

And in all three cases we can and likely will do a lot worse. It is what it is and you fight the war with the army you have, not the one you wish you had.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:39 PM (x0n13)

18 I still want to see flying metal chairs.

Posted by: wth at November 14, 2023 05:39 PM (v0R5T)

19 Should watch whole thing but don't want to

Posted by: Skip at November 14, 2023 05:39 PM (fwDg9)

20 >>> Its not that we are involving ourself, its that they have declared war on us already.

Haven't we always been at war with Iran?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 14, 2023 05:40 PM (cOq4q)

21 >She's also getting knocked for deploying a line favored by Ilhan Omar, that people only support Israel because they're being paid to do so

---

I support Israel- where's my money

Posted by: salient at November 14, 2023 05:40 PM (geLO8)

22 Its not that we are involving ourself, its that they have declared war on us already.
-
That weekly chant of "Death to America" is just their culture, h8er.

Posted by: Our Faux Sophistication Media at November 14, 2023 05:40 PM (Dnobf)

23 15 Ben Shapiro is the Sean Hannity of storage locker Auctioneers.
Posted by: wth at November 14, 2023 05:38 PM (v0R5T)


Yawn Inanity is a joke. At least Shapiro many times goes into the lions' den of lefties and slays them. Hannity could barely beat Alan Colmes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:40 PM (x0n13)

24 20 >>> Its not that we are involving ourself, its that they have declared war on us already.

Haven't we always been at war with Iran?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 14, 2023 05:40 PM (cOq4q)

Well since the Shah was overthrown, yeah.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:41 PM (xcxpd)

25 >.Should watch whole thing but don't want to

tl, dw

Posted by: DB - can you dig my groove at November 14, 2023 05:41 PM (geLO8)

26 Kanye really must have had a lot of influence on her.
Some people have too much pride to admit they were wrong.

This is just sad.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2023 05:41 PM (NpAcC)

27 4 We don't know what the f*** we're talking about at least 70% of the time and we basically learn by saying stupid things and then being corrected.
-
That's pretty much human existence."

I want you to know that personally, I have gotten that down to 50%, tops.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 05:41 PM (i9ffA)

28 I call him Headache Hannity.

Posted by: wth at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM (v0R5T)

29 >>>
Does this also apply to Donald Trump? I will say that in the interest of full disclosure I WANT to support Trump. The problem is of late he has said and done some things that make me throw my hands up

no not really. You're supposed to "cancel" people in politics. You're supposed to try to get people you don't like to lose their jobs as public officials.

People always get this wrong. The problem is not that there are political campaigns to get people to lose their jobs in politics. That's what politics IS!

The problem is that people use these tactics and run political campaigns to get people fired from their job as repairmen, or pilots, or restaurant owners, or whatever.

Political tactics are fine to get people thrown out of political jobs. They are not fine to get people thrown out of non-political, routine jobs.

(With some exceptions: Some teachers are very insistent on defying their bosses' orders to teach math, not gender ideology, and should be fired for insubordination.)

Posted by: ace at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM (KRtlO)

30 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:39 PM (x0n13)

I'm worried about his age. I'm worried that he has never admitted he screwed Covid up. I'm worried about him not having any real support from anyone in the political class, thus having staff will be problematic.

However, as he IS the Enemy, of my Enemy... and looks like the only one really willing to fight them?

I'll crawl over broken glass to vote for him.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM (xaFKb)

31 Political Pundits would be the most overpaid profession in the world if they would ever make more than a McDonald’s night shift manager. They have to grift their income from other sources.

And I apologize for lumping in the few solid non grifting pundits into that group.

Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM (MNhXM)

32 Sean Claude Van Damme.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM (Jf477)

33 >>>She's also getting knocked for deploying a line favored by Ilhan Omar, that people only support Israel because they're being paid to do so



That's such a stupid trope. People support Israel because they know they are the only decent country in the Middle East. Or at least one of a few.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM (d2bW3)

34 Dang. I'll have to check my mailbox again. The check from Israel does not seem to have arrived.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM (ScR16)

35 Haven't we always been at war with Iran?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 14, 2023 05:40 PM (cOq4q)



Apparently not. Iran is a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Ft Worth. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, there has been no reason to not stomp their asses into a mudhole but, here we are, treating them like a powerful opponent.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 05:43 PM (aD39U)

36 Wow. Now you are just tossing "Commenter" around like it's candy.

No Raspect.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 05:44 PM (ZLI7S)

37 29 Posted by: ace at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM (KRtlO)

Fair points, boss. Just my observations and not a criticism.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (x0n13)

38 China town, Koreatown, Hymie town(Thanks Jesse)....little Italy? Are every city that has those doing so because they are Jews practicing ghetto genocide/apartheid?
And...Whats the deal with Monkey Junction in North Carolina???

Posted by: birddog at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (1E8/t)

39 Candance Owens...Candance Owens...

Oh yeah...wasn't she on FOX News? Or was that Harris Faulkner?

I get confused. They all look and sound alike to me.

Fuck them all.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (R/m4+)

40 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:39 PM (x0n13)

Cancel a politician? That’s what you’re supposed to do if you oppose them.

Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (MNhXM)

41 Apparently not. Iran is a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Ft Worth. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, there has been no reason to not stomp their asses into a mudhole but, here we are, treating them like a powerful opponent.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 05:43 PM (aD39U)

Iran is not a soft target, which is probably why GWB chose to invade Iraq instead. I sincerely doubt we could beat Iran in a land war anymore. Nuke them, sure, but we couldn't take territory and hold it there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (xcxpd)

42 I do wish some of these big firms would deny a lot of these scum in the Ivy leagues. You want to support Hamas, go apply to their HR specialist, and never come back.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (d2bW3)

43 >>>To wit, it feels too damn good to rush out to destroy a stranger's life, and so we ought to be very suspicious about cruelty that comes in the guise of sanctimony.


This isn't the Ace I know.

Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (xPl2J)

44 Bitches slapping each other with no apparent... what's that word... ?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (Q4IgG)

45 Little secret about being a public bloviator, which I'm sure none of you ever realized before, because I do exhaustive research before writing every post: We don't know what the f*** we're talking about at least 70% of the time and we basically learn by saying stupid things and then being corrected by people who know more than we do.


Who told you my secret?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (XZrr7)

46 Meh.

What's Ben's sister's opinion?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (JkCto)

47 35 Haven't we always been at war with Iran?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 14, 2023 05:40 PM (cOq4q)


Apparently not. Iran is a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Ft Worth. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, there has been no reason to not stomp their asses into a mudhole but, here we are, treating them like a powerful opponent.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 05:43 PM (aD39U)

Previously they were a strategic check on Iraq.
Presently they have obscene amounts of anti-air and are sufficiently bloc'd with Russia and China to not be worth effort.

The sweet spot probably would have been in the 2000s, if it had been the Iraq and Iran wars rather than Iraq and Afghanistan, terrorism from the Middle East would be nigh extinct at this point. As is, it was wiped out everywhere in the ME except for Iran and its affiliates.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (eYoxG)

48 Hey...you better sho nuff stay AWAY from Lynchburg Tennessee, Jack

Posted by: birddog at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (1E8/t)

49 Iran is not a soft target, which is probably why GWB chose to invade Iraq instead. I sincerely doubt we could beat Iran in a land war anymore. Nuke them, sure, but we couldn't take territory and hold it there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (xcxpd)

Is Iran that much more powerful since the Iran-Iraq war which was a stalemate?

Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 05:47 PM (MNhXM)

50 Bitches slapping each other with no apparent... what's that word... ?
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Bewbs.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2023 05:47 PM (XZrr7)

51 I listen to Shapiro sometimes... usually the podcast. I find his Donald Trump imitation hilarious.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 14, 2023 05:47 PM (nx4Af)

52 ........The problem is that people use these tactics and run political campaigns to get people fired from their job as repairmen, or pilots, or restaurant owners, or whatever.
Posted by: ace at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM
----------------
Agree. And difficult to reconcile for those of us that came of business age when people trying to get other people fired were the baddies.

Posted by: scampydog at November 14, 2023 05:47 PM (2bFN5)

53 Glenn Greenwald vehemently denies he's an anti-semite but all one need do is listen. So does Noam Chomsky. So does Norman Finkelstein.

At some point, you're a liar or you're stupid. Because Candace has said a load of stupid stuff.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 14, 2023 05:47 PM (RIvkX)

54 41 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (xcxpd)


There are ways to take Iran down that do not involve blunt massive military invasion. Of course, the Deep State globalists can't make money like that so of course they'll insist on having boots on the ground.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:47 PM (x0n13)

55 >>What's Ben's sister's opinion?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal


She has back problems?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 14, 2023 05:48 PM (d2bW3)

56 Alcohol = bad foreign policy. Get stoned instead.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 14, 2023 05:48 PM (KAi1n)

57 "but let's face it, she's just going down a path that conservative favorite Tucker Carlson has been trailblazing for a while."

I like Tucker, but don't agree with him on everything.
Do I want him to be VP?
Nope

Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2023 05:48 PM (NpAcC)

58 45 Little secret about being a public bloviator, which I'm sure none of you ever realized before, because I do exhaustive research before writing every post: We don't know what the f*** we're talking about at least 70% of the time and we basically learn by saying stupid things and then being corrected by people who know more than we do.


Who told you my secret?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (XZrr7)

Ace just described my entire career here. :-(

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:49 PM (x0n13)

59 41 Apparently not. Iran is a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Ft Worth. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, there has been no reason to not stomp their asses into a mudhole but, here we are, treating them like a powerful opponent.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 05:43 PM (aD39U)

Iran is not a soft target, which is probably why GWB chose to invade Iraq instead. I sincerely doubt we could beat Iran in a land war anymore. Nuke them, sure, but we couldn't take territory and hold it there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (xcxpd)

On paper the US wins the land war handily, in practice the body count is too high. Iran's government is not particularly popular and the area has less social organization suitable for long-run guerilla warfare.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2023 05:49 PM (eYoxG)

60
Dang. I'll have to check my mailbox again. The check from Israel does not seem to have arrived.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight


Sign up for direct deposit.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 14, 2023 05:49 PM (63Dwl)

61 48 Hey...you better sho nuff stay AWAY from Lynchburg Tennessee, Jack
Posted by: birddog at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (1E8/t)

Sho Nuff?

Posted by: The Last Dragon at November 14, 2023 05:49 PM (xaFKb)

62 Afternoon.

I don't listen to Owens because she's an obvious phony.

That said I would like to partake of some baseless spitballing.

She's under contract, right? Is it possible her contract has one of those options that allows her employer to extend it unilaterally? Is it then possible she's poisoning the well to keep DW from doing that? Maybe she's found greener pastures elsewhere and wants out.

Anyway, can we talk about Ben's sister's tits? Cuz they're great.

Posted by: Robert at November 14, 2023 05:49 PM (1Yy3c)

63 We don't know what the f*** we're talking about at least 70% of the time



70% of the time you know 50% of the story.

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 05:49 PM (P5BwU)

64 What's Ben's sister's opinion?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (JkCto)

That's all I give a shit about. She should state her opinion in a low-cut, tight blouse.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (R4t5M)

65 The problem with the modern right and conservatives is that the legacy of their (necessary) coalition-building is that we now have several different ideologies under the same tent. Those ideologies often disagree or even conflict. Unlike the left, which is 90% unified in agreeing on pursuing violent communist oppression, the right maintains independent thought and opinion.

Exhibit A is this blog. Other than maybe the troll shitposters, we are all conservatives. We all support the same general big-picture ideology. But there’s not a single post where the post and all the comments align perfectly. Usually it’s just the opposite.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (iqZMp)

66 Drama!

Posted by: runner at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (yoSgP)

67 There are ways to take Iran down that do not involve blunt massive military invasion. Of course, the Deep State globalists can't make money like that so of course they'll insist on having boots on the ground.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:47 PM (x0n13)

Maybe?

But if we couldn't pull off a non-military takedown under Regan, I doubt we could pull it off under anyone after he left. They've been a pariah state for decades and the Ayatollahs are still in power there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (xcxpd)

68 34 Dang. I'll have to check my mailbox again. The check from Israel does not seem to have arrived.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 14, 2023 05:42 PM (ScR16)

All those years in Hebrew school and I was sending money to them!

Plant a tree, my ass! ;-)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (x0n13)

69 There are ways to take Iran down that do not involve blunt massive military invasion. Of course, the Deep State globalists can't make money like that so of course they'll insist on having boots on the ground.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
_____________

They've been on the drawing boards for decades. Why?

I know why... it's rhetorical.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (Q4IgG)

70 >>I like Tucker, but don't agree with him on everything.
Do I want him to be VP?
Nope

I wouldn't worry about it. He won't be.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (ZLI7S)

71 Alcohol = bad foreign policy. Get stoned instead.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 14, 2023 05:48 PM (KAi1n)

Dude you promote weed more than Snoop Dog and Willie Nelson combined.

Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (MNhXM)

72 Iran is not a soft target, which is probably why GWB chose to invade Iraq instead. I sincerely doubt we could beat Iran in a land war anymore. Nuke them, sure, but we couldn't take territory and hold it there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (xcxpd)



As I said, they are a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Ft Worth, almost all of which is derived from a commodity that has to exported by tanker or exposed pipeline. If we declared that a state of hostilities existed between us, we could bomb their pipelines, refineries, and power plants. Seize any tanker carrying their oil, seize any money within our reach, capture any Iranian citizen that we can, assassinate their leaders, and we can do all this without putting a boot on the ground in Iran.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (aD39U)

73 Candace could beat the shit outta Little Ben

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (iqZMp)

74 I beat Sean Hannity in arm wrestling.

Posted by: Ann Coulter at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (sWM8x)

75 This ought to be a fun thread

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (RUbwN)

76 49 Iran is not a soft target, which is probably why GWB chose to invade Iraq instead. I sincerely doubt we could beat Iran in a land war anymore. Nuke them, sure, but we couldn't take territory and hold it there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (xcxpd)

Is Iran that much more powerful since the Iran-Iraq war which was a stalemate?
Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 05:47 PM (MNhXM)

It's less that they're powerful and more that they're specifically set up to fight in a defensive war against the United States. The US would be operating without effective air support, and so could take losses in the tens of thousands over the course of the war, which I believe is more than the US could stomach.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (eYoxG)

77 I barely know who either of these people are. I just don't give a crap about them or for the most part the bulk of the conservative talking heads. It all comes across as noise and unseriousness.

They all have the same take on an issue with exception to the ones that matter to the base which they usually ignore.

Oh, they may throw a bone article once in awhile but then back to their regularly scheduled GOPe speak. Most appear to be in on grifting as much as they can.

Maybe I'm getting to that age that just endless bleating by big city based conservative speakers is meaningless.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (y8ulm)

78 63 We don't know what the f*** we're talking about at least 70% of the time



70% of the time you know 50% of the story.
Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 05:49 PM (P5BwU)


AAAWWKKKK!!!! MATH!!!! BURN HIM... BURN HIM!!!!

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (xaFKb)

79 Ow! Somebody just elbowed me!

Posted by: Janitor outside Kevin McCarthy's office at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (PiwSw)

80 Candance Owens...Candance Owens...

Oh yeah...wasn't she on FOX News? Or was that Harris Faulkner?

I get confused. They all look and sound alike to me.

Fuck them all.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (R/m4+)
*******
She hasn't been on Fox for awhile.
On the other hand, Harris Faulkner is excellent. I always record her show.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (NpAcC)

81 67 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (xcxpd)

After Trump took out Soleimani, Iran would have crumbled were it not for COVID and the election rigging coup.

Their economy was in tatters and massive unrest in-country against the Mullahs meant it was a matter of time.

Oh well, Foggy Bottom knows best!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:52 PM (x0n13)

82 I view this as a slapfight between two callow media hustlers. I've learned the hard way that few if any of these media types are terribly invested in my politics or wellbeing. And I don't care if everything they say about each other is true or false.

Posted by: Not my circus, not my monkeys at November 14, 2023 05:52 PM (CjGGv)

83 Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (ZLI7S)

Yep. Plus, he’s more important in the role he is playing now.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 05:52 PM (RUbwN)

84 These are the things you have to deal with when you're part of a party/movement that PERMITS free thinking. Frankly I'm shocked that Fetterman isn't taking more crap for his contrarian (to Dems at least) take on Israel.

Posted by: Bayesian Prior at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (q1I67)

85 On paper the US wins the land war handily, in practice the body count is too high. Iran's government is not particularly popular and the area has less social organization suitable for long-run guerilla warfare.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2023 05:49 PM (eYoxG)

The terrain is terrible and I suspect an invasion would be the one thing that would unite the Iranians.

We have really good tools but I doubt very strongly the will to do everything it would take to win. Hell, we couldn't hold Afganistan.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (xcxpd)

86 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:52 PM (x0n13)

Agree.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (RUbwN)

87
Time to make the donuts for tomorrow.

BBL

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (x0n13)

88 It's who they are

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (JMAcK)

89 A source I have codenamed "Commenter" says ... Another source, also codenamed "Commenter," ...

To be clear, neither of these are me.



Posted by: J. Random Commenter at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (a3Q+t)

90
OTOH, Hannity is banging Ainsley Earhardt.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (Mzdiz)

91 79 Ow! Somebody just elbowed me!
Posted by: Janitor outside Kevin McCarthy's office at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (PiwSw)

lol

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (xcxpd)

92 I always got a grift vibe from her. I mean they’re all grifters in one way or another. But she seems reaaaaaally grifty.

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 05:54 PM (P5BwU)

93 LOL. Candace is basically Ye West in drag. And by that I mean Ye West amuses the hell out of me at times - but I would never, ever, not in a hundred years trust him about anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 05:37 PM (i9ffA)

I know Kanye West has reinvented himself as "Ye", but I am under no compulsion to accept that, and I won't. Fuck him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 14, 2023 05:54 PM (RHLFE)

94 Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (Mzdiz)

He is? Still?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 05:54 PM (RUbwN)

95 I think I read here, by a commentor and not by ace, that the reason the left wins is because they never have disputes and always speak with one voice.

Aaaaaaand . . . I hope the conservative voices never decide that is what is important. Squabbles are important. It is more important to have multiple voices than to have one borg. And even more important, it is important to not have one approved outlet of "conservative thought" since that is what brought us both William F Buckley and the Bush family.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 14, 2023 05:54 PM (D7oie)

96 Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (aD39U)

This has actually been the Stratergery I have proposed, for all of Islam.

If they don't like the West, and want to act like 7th Centry Barbarians? Very well then. Bomb every Bridge, dam, modern road, railroad, electrical plant, factory, and oil well... and let them live like 7th Century Barbarians.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 14, 2023 05:54 PM (xaFKb)

97 >>>There have been over 50 Attacks against American Military in the region in the last couple of weeks, mainly by Iran backed Groups, supporting Hamas.

Its not that we are involving ourself, its that they have declared war on us already.

Posted by: Romeo13
-----

Blow the crap out of them and be done with it.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 05:54 PM (Tw76q)

98 She is like Megan Markle , ain't she.

Posted by: runner at November 14, 2023 05:55 PM (yoSgP)

99 We have really good tools but I doubt very strongly the will to do everything it would take to win. Hell, we couldn't hold Afganistan.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (xcxpd)

In fairness, nobody has really held Afghanistan.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 14, 2023 05:55 PM (R4t5M)

100 But if we couldn't pull off a non-military takedown under Regan

The treasury secretary? Or was he OMB?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 14, 2023 05:55 PM (KAi1n)

101 I don't give a shit about either of these thought bots. An opinion is an easy thing to have but that doesn't make it valid.
Michael Oren has an opinion on Israel I'm all ears

Posted by: Ben Had at November 14, 2023 05:55 PM (mhE4y)

102 I've learned the hard way that few if any of these media types are terribly invested in my politics or wellbeing.
Posted by: Not my circus, not my monkeys at November 14, 2023 05:52 PM


You are too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Meagain Kelly at November 14, 2023 05:55 PM (a3Q+t)

103 These political commentator things are a fun diversion, but no one really cares what any of them say. Eight years ago, no one but Mann Coulter was backing Trump, and 4 years ago, none of the Leftie talking heads were pushing Biden. No one really listens to these people.

Posted by: Wally at November 14, 2023 05:55 PM (hqVaF)

104 Ok, Elric Blade said what I said but way better at #65

Posted by: Bayesian Prior at November 14, 2023 05:55 PM (q1I67)

105 97 >>>There have been over 50 Attacks against American Military in the region in the last couple of weeks, mainly by Iran backed Groups, supporting Hamas.

Its not that we are involving ourself, its that they have declared war on us already.

Posted by: Romeo13
-----

Blow the crap out of them and be done with it.

Posted by: Braenyard a
------------

WAIT! . We can't do that because the Dems- want to suck the Iahtola's dick.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 05:56 PM (Tw76q)

106 >Do we really have to rush from one fatally-flawed extreme [. . . ] to the other fatally-flawed extreme

To be fair, the left and the media does *normally* paint anyone debating with them into an extreme opposite corner.

It ought not be surprising to find that people accustomed to debating from the extremes tend to find the extremes rather than a middle ground.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 05:56 PM (eT12Z)

107 I bet Lamont would know what the fuck he’s talking about at least 40% of the time

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 05:56 PM (VTu1l)

108 100 But if we couldn't pull off a non-military takedown under Regan

The treasury secretary? Or was he OMB?
Posted by: SFGoth at November 14, 2023 05:55 PM (KAi1n)

typo, mea culpa

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:56 PM (xcxpd)

109 85 On paper the US wins the land war handily, in practice the body count is too high. Iran's government is not particularly popular and the area has less social organization suitable for long-run guerilla warfare.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2023 05:49 PM (eYoxG)

The terrain is terrible and I suspect an invasion would be the one thing that would unite the Iranians.

We have really good tools but I doubt very strongly the will to do everything it would take to win. Hell, we couldn't hold Afganistan.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (xcxpd)

Afghanistan is ruled by a large number of tribes who can basically fight indefinitely with local support.

The IRGC is not that. They've trained in fighting in an urban environment in a modern guerilla style, but wouldn't be able to sustain that long run. Should be possible to cut their supplies until each unit crumbles.

Their urban-centric training tells me they don't believe they can really do long-term continual operations in the mountains.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2023 05:56 PM (eYoxG)

110 Fetterman isn't taking more crap for his contrarian (to Dems at least) take on Israel.
Posted by: Bayesian Prior at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (q1I67)

They will not Dis the Fet, because they know he is a lock in vote for them, no matter what.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 14, 2023 05:56 PM (xaFKb)

111 Individualism is a conservative’s most admirable trait and his greatest political weakness.

Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 05:57 PM (MNhXM)

112 95 I think I read here, by a commentor and not by ace, that the reason the left wins is because they never have disputes and always speak with one voice.

—-

I say this all the time. Not only do they speak with one voice they forgive and forget. Look at 2020. Bernie Brosnfuckingbhated (and still hate) Biden. But they put party above bickering and coalesced around Biden. On our side I don’t see this happening with the DeSantis/Trump feud.

On Hamas, we may have found the exception for Dems. Time will tell if it’s temporary or not.

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 05:57 PM (P5BwU)

113 OTOH, Hannity is banging Ainsley Earhardt.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (Mzdiz)

She's a hard One

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 05:58 PM (xcxpd)

114 Seize any tanker carrying their oil, seize any money within our reach, capture any Iranian citizen that we can, assassinate their leaders, and we can do all this without putting a boot on the ground in Iran.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 05:50 PM (aD39U)

Concur. And arm whatever gang wants to replace the weird beards and then let them all kill each other.

Won't even cost that much. But we are now a pussy country so nothing will happen.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 14, 2023 05:58 PM (R/m4+)

115 I thought Ben Shapiro's sister had certain admirers around here?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 14, 2023 05:58 PM (a3Q+t)

116 Iran is 77% urban, Afghanistan is 26%. Massive difference in the ability for enduring warfare in the mountains and hills I think.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2023 05:58 PM (eYoxG)

117 Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 05:57 PM (MNhXM)

See……I’d say amongst us? Yes. True. Amongst the political class? Very few are actual right wingers/populists. They mainly just care about power and jerking off the other side.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 05:59 PM (RUbwN)

118 "Hannity is banging Ainsley Earhardt."

Big whoop. Biden was banging Amelia Earhart. He told her she should switch to trains. It was the one time he was right

Posted by: Wally at November 14, 2023 05:59 PM (hqVaF)

119 drama? oh. boy. woo. hoo.

(yawn)
(fart)
(crack open a beer) (New Glarus Staghorn Oktoberfest)

made in madison, so probably by commies .. but ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at November 14, 2023 05:59 PM (hXr4C)

120 You can take my Megyn Kelly waifu pillow from my cold dead and sticky hands.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at

I think Owens and Kelly should scissor until we figure this out.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but? at November 14, 2023 05:59 PM (yUu6q)

121 116 I thought Ben Shapiro's sister had certain admirers around here?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 14, 2023 05:58 PM (a3Q+t)

Oh my god she has big tits!!

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 05:59 PM (P5BwU)

122 What is Israel?

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 14, 2023 05:59 PM (wrMd8)

123 Apparently not. Iran is a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Ft Worth. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, there has been no reason to not stomp their asses into a mudhole but, here we are, treating them like a powerful opponent.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 05:43 PM


Is that actual internally generated GDP, or does that include the billions of dollars that Biden sends them every 8 weeks?

Cause in the latter case, I am pretty sure I too could have the GDP of DFW if I was on Biden's "enemies" list!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 14, 2023 05:59 PM (HlyYF)

124 we basically learn by saying stupid things and then being corrected by people who know more than we do.

********

This is how most people learn. I do not include Neil deGrasse Tyson or David Hogg in this generalization. Or Greta or AOC. Or for that matter Joe Biden or Kamala. Or Stacey Abrams or Oprah. Or, you know...

Come to think of it, that's NOT how most people learn

Posted by: Muldoon at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (991eG)

125 I know a lot of people can't stand Shapiro but I'm not aware of anything substantive that he's ever said that I violently disagreed with.

Maybe its just his style.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (guGkK)

126 Dude you promote weed more than Snoop Dog and Willie Nelson combined.
Posted by: Drive by

Unlike them, i get no commission and sell no records. Am i doing it wrong?

Anyways, does anyone else think Ben talks fast?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (KAi1n)

127 Afghanistan is ruled by a large number of tribes who can basically fight indefinitely with local support.

The IRGC is not that. They've trained in fighting in an urban environment in a modern guerilla style, but wouldn't be able to sustain that long run. Should be possible to cut their supplies until each unit crumbles.

Their urban-centric training tells me they don't believe they can really do long-term continual operations in the mountains.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2023 05:56 PM (eYoxG)

Jah but eastern Iran is basically Afganistan with better education and (slightly) better infrastructure. Trying to go into the mountains and we run into the same self sufficent tribes, same with the northern part of the state. I see it...and I could be wrong...we could take the coastal regions but that's it. And not cheaply or easily and not forever.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (xcxpd)

128 It has been proven time and again that it is next to impossible for a conventional force to defeat an enemy fighting asymmetrically.

Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (gmo/4)

129 At the end of Enduring Freedom, I thought that we should have randomly airdropped the thousands and thousands of AK47s along with tons of ammo that we captured in Iraq into the backcountry of Iran. The country folk don't really care for being ruled by Tehran but they can't do much about it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (aD39U)

130 we ought to be very suspicious about cruelty that comes in the guise of sanctimony.

In the blog of comedy it's proportional. Their grief to our amusement.

Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (FhXTo)

131 Maybe back to comment earlier
Bring back dueling

Posted by: Skip at November 14, 2023 06:01 PM (fwDg9)

132
From April of this year, DM confirms Hannity and Ainsley were an item.

https://tinyurl.com/ym2v7fmo

Ainsley was married to some Clempson football QB.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 14, 2023 06:01 PM (Mzdiz)

133 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (guGkK)

He mocked the non-covid takers and told people to take it.

Just LOL.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:01 PM (RUbwN)

134 It's less that they're powerful and more that they're specifically set up to fight in a defensive war against the United States. The US would be operating without effective air support, and so could take losses in the tens of thousands over the course of the war, which I believe is more than the US could stomach.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (eYoxG)

A land war in Asia? Inconceivable!!!

Posted by: Vizzini at November 14, 2023 06:02 PM (i9ffA)

135 Is Iran that much more powerful since the Iran-Iraq war which was a stalemate?
Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 05:47 PM (MNhXM)

Iran is a large country with rough terrain and a large population. Most historical conquests have been march throughs with an insurgency left behind.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:02 PM (eoQWY)

136 Michelle Malkin seems to just have disappeared.
I never hear about her anymore.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2023 06:02 PM (NpAcC)

137 I wonder how much of the Persian diaspora would return if Iran had a complete change of government.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (KAi1n)

138 He mocked the non-covid takers and told people to take it.

Just LOL.


Didn't hear that.

A lot of otherwise credible people went off the deep end with COVID.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (guGkK)

139 Posted by: SFGoth at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (KAi1n)

He’s a hyper active midget.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (RUbwN)

140 Hannity Ainsley thing has been a known public thing for a long time now.

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (P5BwU)

141 133 OTOH, Hannity is banging Ainsley Earhardt.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 14, 2023 05:53 PM (Mzdiz)

I've never lost more respect for someone I'm.barely aware of.
Posted by: trev006 at November 14, 2023 06:01 PM (RwrAS)

LOL! I understand completely.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (i9ffA)

142 Have I mentioned that I used to paint houses?

Posted by: Sean Hannity at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (sWM8x)

143 Haven't we always been at war with Iran?

Who else is 29 enough to remember when Divine Wind by BOC was about the Ayatollah?

Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (FhXTo)

144 129 It has been proven time and again that it is next to impossible for a conventional force to defeat an enemy fighting asymmetrically.

Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (gmo/4)

Well...you can....but you have to fight like Russia in Chechnya part 2. You have to pile up bodies like nobody's business and have a puppet to put into power when you've killed enough people to quiet down the current generation.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (xcxpd)

145 132 Maybe back to comment earlier
Bring back dueling

Posted by: Skip at November 14, 2023 06:01 PM


If dueling was universally embraced, then I am pretty sure the Moron Horde would rule the entire world in about 12 months!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (HlyYF)

146 Hannity is banging Ainsley Earhardt.

*******

She went from football player to the FBI’s Uranus

I guess that’s what happens when youre post wall and out of options

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (VTu1l)

147 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (guGkK)

Binary Ben gotta binary.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (RUbwN)

148 Forget Afghanistan. Without foreign money all they have is dirt clods and poppies. Bomb all of Iran's infrastructure, civil and military and they will run around like chickens for the next 20 or 50 years.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (Tw76q)

149 Legal Insurrection

May the name of Staff Sgt Aner Elyakim Shapiro be forever remembered.

The off duty soldier died protecting civilians from the animals of Hamas. He managed to throw back at the savages seven hand grenades they had tossed into a bomb shelter at the Supernova music festival. Alas the eighth grenade killed him.

https://tinyurl.com/9ev9eys9

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 14, 2023 06:04 PM (OKzJV)

150 I'll never understand cancel culture. If someone annoys me, I avoid them. Is it really that hard for crybullies to understand that rather simple concept?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 14, 2023 06:04 PM (z5vMw)

151 >
I never hear about her anymore.

Posted by: redridinghood


she built an online money-maker, sold it, and punched out
think she's in Colorado Springs

Posted by: DB - can you dig my groove at November 14, 2023 06:05 PM (geLO8)

152 Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2023 06:02 PM (NpAcC)

She defended, and I’m not sure how much further she went, Nick Fuentes/The Groypers and their right to be heard and not banned everywhere. After that she was persona non grata.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:05 PM (RUbwN)

153 If dueling was universally embraced, then I am pretty sure the Moron Horde would rule the entire world in about 12 months!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (HlyYF)

Wellllll... I can put you in touch with a VERY successful Rapier Training program...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 14, 2023 06:05 PM (xaFKb)

154 49 No, Iran has not become much stronger; we have become much weaker. Remember how Afghanistan kicked our ass?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 14, 2023 06:05 PM (nnp+f)

155 This is like Iran v Iraq. I'm just rooting for casualties all around.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at November 14, 2023 06:06 PM (dkAQ5)

156 155 If dueling was universally embraced, then I am pretty sure the Moron Horde would rule the entire world in about 12 months!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM (HlyYF)

Wellllll... I can put you in touch with a VERY successful Rapier Training program...
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 14, 2023 06:05 PM (xaFKb)

We have a couple of morons who are actually big fencers, IIRC. Though I haven't seen their nics for some of them lately.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 14, 2023 06:06 PM (xcxpd)

157 126 I know a lot of people can't stand Shapiro but I'm not aware of anything substantive that he's ever said that I violently disagreed with.

Maybe its just his style.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (guGkK)

He reminds me of an acquaintence here. He's extremely brilliant, very creative, starts new businesses, works on new stuff constantly - and he's such an ass that no one can stand to work with him more than a few months before they get fed up and walk away. It's just who he is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 06:06 PM (i9ffA)

158 Posted by: Romeo13 at November 14, 2023 06:05 PM (xaFKb)

No thanks. There’s nothing you can teach me.

-Joe Biden

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:06 PM (RUbwN)

159 Senile presidents, tree-hugging popes, big-city mayors trying to outdo each other in creating the most unlivable dystopias, the mad and inexplicable stampede among the elites toward an androgynous culture, big tech fascism, stolen elections, the increasing brittleness of political alliances, the mainstreaming of every kind of perversion, the corruption of children...

As a friend of mine recently said, what a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Paco at November 14, 2023 06:07 PM (njExo)

160 No, Iran has not become much stronger; we have become much weaker. Remember how Afghanistan kicked our ass?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 14, 2023 06:05 PM (nnp+f)

No I do not remember Afghanistan kicking our ass.

Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 06:07 PM (KLWiP)

161 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 06:06 PM (i9ffA)

He crushes high schoolers and college aged kids in debates!

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:08 PM (RUbwN)

162 It has been proven time and again that it is next to impossible for a conventional force to defeat an enemy fighting asymmetrically.
Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (gmo/4)

Concur...as long as they have access to unlimited supplies from friendly, near by allies like in Vietnam or Afghanistan or Detroit.

I think the Brits won in Malaysia as they could kill the commies and the commies had no avenue for re-supplies.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 14, 2023 06:08 PM (R/m4+)

163 It has been proven time and again that it is next to impossible for a conventional force to defeat an enemy fighting asymmetrically.

Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:00 PM (gmo/4)

Wrong. If the insurgency doesn't have an external base or support it is likely to lose.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:08 PM (eoQWY)

164 There was almost a revolution in Iran in 2009 , but....obama...

Posted by: runner at November 14, 2023 06:08 PM (yoSgP)

165 Have I mentioned that I used to paint houses?
Posted by: Sean Hannity at November 14, 2023 06:03 PM


Did you know my father was a mailman?

Posted by: John Kasich at November 14, 2023 06:08 PM (a3Q+t)

166 >No, Iran has not become much stronger; we have become much weaker. Remember how Afghanistan kicked our ass?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov

---


well for sure we pretty much have the world out-gunned-
trouble is, we've become afraid to commit, to pull that trigger, to go total war

it's always half-assed war

Posted by: DB - can you dig my groove at November 14, 2023 06:08 PM (geLO8)

167 Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok

Slade Sohmer, editor of left-wing news site ‘The Recount’ charged with possessing and disseminating “hundreds of child pornography images and videos.”

Assistant District Attorney Marianne Shelvey said this was one of the most “egregious” cases she has seen.

He also worked as a co-director at a camp.

https://tinyurl.com/mw5m9z8u

Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2023 06:08 PM (NpAcC)

168 No, Iran has not become much stronger; we have become much weaker. Remember how Afghanistan kicked our ass?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 14, 2023 06:05 PM (nnp+f)

No I do not remember Afghanistan kicking our ass.

Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 06:07 PM (KLWiP)

We only have one factory for making ammo. We are not a serious military power any more.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:09 PM (eoQWY)

169 That's a bit extreme, isn't? Couldn't we first just try recognizing that we tend to get drunk when we open a bottle of Militarism so we should sip from it carefully and with full awareness that we have a problem with the stuff?

I think this is a good inadvertent summary of why the right not only loses but deserves to lose. The same people who want you to believe that our government is terribly evil on the domestic front - rigs elections, spies on its own populace and propagandizes them, applies the law vindictively to protect the nomenklatura and punish its enemies, supports mobs, civil disorder, and criminals, is trying to get to your kids and brainwash them etc. - is actually reasonably good and competent in matters abroad, that it's hopelessly astray domestically but its foreign policy is still salvageable. It's a schizophrenic view of the US government. And it's hard to believe anyone who isn't crazy or crazily unserious holds it. And pointing out how awful various foreign actors are changes none of this. It's a like the conservative love affair with law enforcement: unrequited and hopelessly out of date.

Posted by: you're taking the blue pill at November 14, 2023 06:09 PM (CjGGv)

170 In the case of Iran, it has two glaring weaknesses. its oil refineries and Kharg Island. Taking out the oil refineries would grind Iran to a halt. Taking out Kharg Island would severely damage Iran's ability to export oil to the Chinese among others and pay for imports.

In the long run, economic and asymmetric warfare is more sustainable than invasions of far away nations.

Posted by: whig at November 14, 2023 06:09 PM (P1Zkh)

171 >>No, Iran has not become much stronger; we have become much weaker. Remember how Afghanistan kicked our ass?

Our leadership has become weaker not necessarily our military. We have enough Naval assets in the region to lay waste to Iran but we lack the will. We didn't send a nuclear sub to the Med for Hamas, it was a (mostly toothless) warning to Iran.

It might necessary to eventually land troops but we could do one hell of warm up act without ever setting foot in the place.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 06:10 PM (ZLI7S)

172 I don't know why anyone would need or want to invade Iran. We just don't like them being a pain in the ass.

That is something we could fix.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:10 PM (aD39U)

173 and he's such an ass that no one can stand to work with him more than a few months before they get fed up and walk away. It's just who he is.

*******

He immediately took the lefty position that those kids at March for life were basically molesting an Indian banging a drum in their faces and only sorta kinda apologized about it

He’s got some fucking brass balls to be calling Candace out for taking some lefty positions without question or verifying when he’s done that himself

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:10 PM (VTu1l)

174 The American Revolution would have been another footnote of the British quelling unrest except the French intervened.

Asymmetrical warfare can only succeed for two reasons - they have outside support and the government they are fighting looses the support of the populace.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 14, 2023 06:11 PM (OKzJV)

175 A few strategic nukes deployed in Tehran would solve a lot of our problems. Just saying.

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 06:11 PM (P5BwU)

176 He mocked the non-covid takers and told people to take it.

Just LOL.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:01 PM (RUbwN)

And then he changed his stance 180 degrees when more information came out, including suggesting that people aught to go to jail for the lying.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2023 06:11 PM (3Gtis)

177 Think of our war fighting like a pro wrestling tag team match where the Republicans are The Rock and his tag team partner , the Democrats is Pee Wee Herman.

Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 06:12 PM (KLWiP)

178 well for sure we pretty much have the world out-gunned-
trouble is, we've become afraid to commit, to pull that trigger, to go total war

it's always half-assed war
Posted by: DB - can you dig my groove at November 14, 2023 06:08 PM (geLO

Even so, we don't lose stand up fights... we win militarily, then our politicians declare defeat. Been a consistent pattern since Viet Nam.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 14, 2023 06:12 PM (xaFKb)

179 Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:10 PM (VTu1l)

I forgot about that. Good call. Guy is the fast talking smart Hannity.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:12 PM (RUbwN)

180 I'll never understand cancel culture. If someone annoys me, I avoid them. Is it really that hard for crybullies to understand that rather simple concept?
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 14, 2023 06:04 PM (z5vMw)

Cancel culture is the bickering of housewives about the neighbors they don't like moved out of the suburb into the political arena. Men used to smoke after dinner to avoid having to even hear it.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:12 PM (eoQWY)

181 don't know why anyone would need or want to invade Iran. We just don't like them being a pain in the ass.

That is something we could fix.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:10 PM (aD39U)

Yes, like the USSR.. or along those lines..,

Posted by: runner at November 14, 2023 06:12 PM (yoSgP)

182 >>Were we too credulous of the Deep State and various militarists? Well then, we'll now hypercorrect and disavow the support of any foreign country and likewise denounce the idea of America having any opinions on foreign nations' behavior.

I think the main issue is the US has been at war almost non-stop, somewhere on the planet for the last 110 years, roughly, and the last 20 years specifically have revealed, that, to borrow a phrase, we are being led by some very stupid and evil people, and that a lot of people are sick of this shit.

That being said, Israel needs to f**k Hamas and the Palestinians sh*t up, and keep f**king their sh*t up until their is nothing left to f**k up.

And I would support that, if that was something the Israel's were going to be allowed to do, but they are not going to be allowed to f**k Hamas and the Palastinians sh*t up.

What going to happen is the same sh*t that has happened for the last 60 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (XV/Pl)

183 I'm 29 enough to remember I laughed my ass off when the Persians dropped the Ayatollah's corpse out of his open coffin while parading the body through the streets when he died.

Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (gmo/4)

184 My only interest in this TDW spat is that Lil Benny is once again machine-gunning the right with more aplomb than the left.

He never misses a chance to miss a chance.

Posted by: sven at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (X0I7i)

185

Michelle Malkin retired from writing last year.

I think she got a bit of a raw deal after that incident on _The O'Reilly Factor_, I don't remember ever seeing her on FNC after that.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (eT12Z)

186 G'rump @ 130

that would be a big part of my foreign policy if I had anything to do with that kind of thing ... besides recycling captured hardware I would revive manufacturing the WW2 Liberator pistol and be airdropping them by the thousands, well, everywhere that doesn't have a Second Amendment.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (hXr4C)

187 Don't particularly like Ben, don't listen to him.
But when he takes a point, an observation
he can dissect it par excellence.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (Tw76q)

188 War quit being deecisive when battle plans had to have a lawyer stamp of approval.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (mhE4y)

189 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2023 06:11 PM (3Gtis)

I believe you’ve told me this before. That is fair and he deserves credit for that. But, man, for him to just fall in line for a guy that prides himself on facts don’t care about your feelings was extremely disappointing.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (RUbwN)

190 I forgot about that. Good call. Guy is the fast talking smart Hannity.

***********

He’s an intellectual but he’s not intelligent, I think his brain moves too fast that he can’t slow the fuck down and think for a moment about what he’s actually saying

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:14 PM (VTu1l)

191 Wait, are we ANTI-cruelty now?

Posted by: moviegique (buy my book!) at November 14, 2023 06:14 PM (asXVI)

192 173 In the case of Iran, it has two glaring weaknesses. its oil refineries and Kharg Island. Taking out the oil refineries would grind Iran to a halt. Taking out Kharg Island would severely damage Iran's ability to export oil to the Chinese among others and pay for imports.

In the long run, economic and asymmetric warfare is more sustainable than invasions of far away nations.
Posted by: whig at November 14, 2023 06:09 PM (P1Zkh)

good point, but also lays bare a great weakness for us that signals caution - as you say, China imports much of its oil through Kharg; so does Europe. Given how badly the Euro's have screwed up their energy supply, any destruction to Kharg is going to thoroughly destabilize both the Chinese and European economies, and thanks to interlinkage, will destabilize ours.

I believe we could defeat Iran without too much trouble, but the second great depression would be an inevitable consequence. On the flip side, it's probably inevitable no matter what we do, so better to go down figthing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 06:14 PM (i9ffA)

193
Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (eT12Z)

What happened?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:14 PM (RUbwN)

194 185 Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (XV/Pl)

One side of this conflict rapes women shooting them in the back of the head while fucking them with their babies in the oven.

That is the side the democrats picked, I will happily stand on the other side every time.

Posted by: sven at November 14, 2023 06:14 PM (X0I7i)

195 > I laughed my ass off when the Persians dropped the Ayatollah's corpse out of his open coffin


how do you say 'oopsie' in arabic

Posted by: DB - can you dig my groove at November 14, 2023 06:14 PM (geLO8)

196
He’s got some fucking brass balls to be calling Candace out for taking some lefty positions without question or verifying when he’s done that himself
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:10 PM (VTu1l)

But it’s not the same thing. Yeah Ben was a duck by poking on with the fake edited videos. But Owens thinking Arabs can only live in the Arab Quarter shows she’s just stupid. It’s her stupidity that is concerning to me as her employer more than her anti-Israel stance.

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 06:15 PM (P5BwU)

197 Posted by: sven at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (X0I7i)

This is hilariously accurate

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:15 PM (RUbwN)

198 177 Posted by: Anna Puma at November 14, 2023 06:11 PM (OKzJV)

The Spanish could have filled in for the frogs in a jam, in essence everyone who has every fought the British had the advantage that decent human beings were on the other side of the table.

Israel and other nations now do not have that luxury.

Posted by: sven at November 14, 2023 06:16 PM (X0I7i)

199 The problem with war with Iran is not Iran...it's US military leadership. Bunch of losers. Scared to win and punish our enemies.

I really dont know shit, but would you trust the brass to get it right? I do not. I used to. Those dyas are gone.

Posted by: DOYLE at November 14, 2023 06:16 PM (Z8Yh2)

200 The American Revolution would have been another footnote of the British quelling unrest except the French intervened.

Asymmetrical warfare can only succeed for two reasons - they have outside support and the government they are fighting looses the support of the populace.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 14, 2023 06:11 PM (OKzJV)

I think it's even less than that though the French were part of Britain's thinking.

King George requested funds to conduct a 'surge' on the colonial uprising and they refused. A surge would have caused a defeat of the Patriots pretty quickly.

Posted by: Drive by at November 14, 2023 06:16 PM (KLWiP)

201 If we are going to talk about weak but annoying countries, why is Cuba still run by the Castro gang? We do we let the Cuban people suffer? They are right here in our hemisphere and have no significant allies.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:17 PM (aD39U)

202 The American Revolution would have been another footnote of the British quelling unrest except the French intervened.

Asymmetrical warfare can only succeed for two reasons - they have outside support and the government they are fighting looses the support of the populace.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 14, 2023 06:11 PM (OKzJV)

The Revolution was not asymmetric warfare aside from a few places in the South and back country. From the start the Colonials used formed militia, and soon developed their own regulars ( the Continentals ).

We were definitely aided by the distance from England and a bit of reluctance to go nuts on other 'englishmen'. The French intervention, especially naval was useful in cutting the war shorter for sure and bagging another British Army, but we'd already taken one at Saratoga.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:17 PM (eoQWY)

203 Washington Free Beacon- Sundowner mulls approval of fresh $10 Billion for Iran

Posted by: Skip at November 14, 2023 06:17 PM (fwDg9)

204 How would Tehran fare if their lights went out for say six hours?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 14, 2023 06:17 PM (OKzJV)

205 How do you get Germany and France to quit trading with Iran?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 14, 2023 06:17 PM (mhE4y)

206 Asymmetrical warfare can only succeed for two reasons - they have outside support and the government they are fighting looses the support of the populace.

===

That is Iran situation right there.

Posted by: runner at November 14, 2023 06:18 PM (yoSgP)

207 I'm heading into NYC tonight for dinner in Chinatown. I hope the guards let me through the gate. And then off to Little Italy for some cannoli...if the army still lets Americans in.

Posted by: Candace Owen at November 14, 2023 06:18 PM (3Gtis)

208 I believe they ripped Arafat to pieces at his Pallywood funeral. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 14, 2023 06:18 PM (R4t5M)

209 "Haven't we always been at war with Iran?"

According to them, yes. We kind of just pat them on the head and say "Here, have a million dollars and some student visas."

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 14, 2023 06:18 PM (ou9hh)

210 No pics of Lil Ben's sister's fun bags? Come on

Posted by: hell yeah brother at November 14, 2023 06:18 PM (Ix9FU)

211 208 How do you get Germany and France to quit trading with Iran?
Posted by: Ben Had at November 14, 2023 06:17 PM (mhE4y)

Tell them Jews run the country.

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 06:19 PM (P5BwU)

212 How do you get Germany and France to quit trading with Iran?

===

Electric cars!

What? WHAT??

Posted by: runner at November 14, 2023 06:19 PM (yoSgP)

213 Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:17 PM (aD39U)

So we go to war with Cuba?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:19 PM (RUbwN)

214 196
Malkin was hosting the _Factor_ for O'Reilly one evening. The guest (as I recall) was a "Nation of Islam" type. He called her a whore. She couldn't quite keep her temper in check and said something to the effect "You, sir, are a whore."

She was on the _Factor_ one last time as a guest and that was the last time I saw her on FNC.

I think I was living in IL at the time, so early '10s timeframe. Maybe.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 06:19 PM (eT12Z)

215 Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:17 PM (aD39U)

Lmfaoooooo

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:19 PM (RUbwN)

216 How do you get Germany and France to quit trading with Iran?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 14, 2023 06:17 PM (mhE4y)

Tell the Germans the French have many tree lined avenues ideal for marching in the shade?

Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:19 PM (gmo/4)

217 But Owens thinking Arabs can only live in the Arab Quarter shows she’s just stupid.

************

I’m not saying he’s wrong, I just wish it was someone like Dennis Prager that was calling her out. I would think coming from a respected figure she might realize she was stupidly buying into lefty propaganda but coming from Ben she’ll probably just dig in her heels

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:20 PM (VTu1l)

218 So we go to war with Cuba?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:19 PM (RUbwN)



We recognize, formally, that a state of hostilities exists, same as with Iran.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:21 PM (aD39U)

219 How would Tehran fare if their lights went out for say six hours?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Would prefer if it was for six centuries.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2023 06:21 PM (XZrr7)

220 In a sense, Malkin may have been one of the first to get cancelled. And by nominally conservative FNC. I'm pretty sure Ailes was still running the show at the time.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 06:21 PM (eT12Z)

221 How do you get Germany and France to quit trading with Iran?

...

I feel like wine, cheese, and beer are all in the punchline but I can't work it out.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 14, 2023 06:21 PM (z/ifB)

222 Owens is a Moon Landing truther, which instantly and irrevocably puts her in the "Fucking moron who should never be listened to about anything" category.

Posted by: Cynical Stoic at November 14, 2023 06:21 PM (0hHNz)

223 Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:21 PM (aD39U)

I don’t have much an appetite for war unless absolutely necessary.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:22 PM (RUbwN)

224 She got canceled for calling someone A whore, who called her a whore first? There has to be more to it than that.

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 06:22 PM (P5BwU)

225 We don't declare war nearly enough. It very much clarifies things and lets you do stuff that you can't do in peace time, like blockage ports and seize shipping.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:22 PM (aD39U)

226 Rumors are that she is doing this to get fired so she can get out of her Contract with Daily Wire.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 14, 2023 06:22 PM (dKiJG)

227 Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2023 06:21 PM (XZrr7)
Split the difference on six days

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:22 PM (RUbwN)

228 >And then he changed his stance 180 degrees when more information came out, including suggesting that people aught to go to jail for the lying.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2023 06:11 PM (3Gtis)

I don't even know if this is true, but assuming it is, am I supposed to be impressed that he changed his public stance when it finally wasn't low status to do so? So brave and stunning.

"Yeah, I supported taking your rights away, but no harm no foul, right?"

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at November 14, 2023 06:23 PM (dkAQ5)

229 Moon Landing truther

***********

You know, I kinda find those flat earth theorists a bit intriguing…..

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:23 PM (VTu1l)

230 228 Probably so, but I'm not a FNC insider. I don't even watch it anymore.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 06:23 PM (eT12Z)

231 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at November 14, 2023 06:23 PM (dkAQ5)

*considers this argument*

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:23 PM (RUbwN)

232 We were not a people favored by God, destined for greatness. We were lucky rebels conveniently supported at the time.

And even at the time, 1/3 loyal to the crown, 1/3 open to rebellion, and 1/3 that simply wanted to be left alone. 3% actually took up arms against the crown.
Posted by: How Things Work

You might want to rethink that "not favored by God" if only 3% of the people could beat the worlds greatest army.. because those are some pretty shitty odds.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2023 06:23 PM (XZrr7)

233 Bought Wheat Thins for my cream cheese. That was wrong.
Should have bought Triscuits.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (Tw76q)

234 @197

>>That is the side the democrats picked, I will happily stand on the other side every time.

Again, If it were up to me, Israel could glass Gaza and I would not so much as make a peep.

Hell, I wanted to glass Afghanistan rather than waste 20 years dicking around in the mountains fighting goat herders.

But I digress.

Unfortunately for Israel, they need the US's ok and support to f**k Hamas and the Palastinian's sh*t up.

And they are not going to get that ok and support.

So what's going to happen, is that Israel is going to f**k a little sh*t up, get the leash pulled and then the two state okdoke is going to start up in short order.

Seen this Clown Show before, it's not going to be anymore edifying this time than it was the last five times.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (XV/Pl)

235 And even at the time, 1/3 loyal to the crown, 1/3 open to rebellion, and 1/3 that simply wanted to be left alone. 3% actually took up arms against the crown.
Posted by: How Things Work at November 14, 2023 06:20 PM (KNyFt)

...

So ten percent of that rebellion-minded 1/3 actually took up arms? That's got to be close to half of all the military aged men in that cohort? They were pissed.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (z/ifB)

236 Owens is a Moon Landing truther, which instantly and irrevocably puts her in the "Fucking moron who should never be listened to about anything" category.
Posted by: Cynical Stoic at Noveember 14, 2023 06:21 PM (0hHNz)

Owens is a weapon in the culture war in that she will go up against the liberals in the city like a boss. If you start quizzing her on global affairs or moon shots its like blaming your bazooka because you get bad results at the target range.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (eoQWY)

237 Venn diagram has to be pretty big between the fire can’t melt steel, moon landing is fake and the erf is flat crowds.

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (P5BwU)

238 You know, I kinda find those flat earth theorists a bit intriguing…..
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger


I love how they have members all around the globe.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (XZrr7)

239 I supposed to be impressed that he changed his public stance when it finally wasn't low status to do so?

*****************

When someone is constantly only right after the fact while everyone else had seen the painfully obvious from the start, you might have to reevaluate their credibility

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:25 PM (VTu1l)

240
What going to happen is the same sh*t that has happened for the last 60 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 14, 2023 06:13 PM (XV/Pl)


Will Israel be able to make and keep Gaza a Palestinian Gun-, Explosives-, and Rocket-Free Zone? Will the US and the EU permit Israel to do it, for the long-term?

Posted by: Gref at November 14, 2023 06:25 PM (5fDan)

241 The Babylon Bee
@TheBabylonBee
·
6h
Hamas Says All The AK-47s Found In Gaza Hospital Were Strictly For Medicinal Use

fuckin nailed it

now do rpgs

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2023 06:25 PM (lwOKI)

242 but coming from Ben she’ll probably just dig in her heels

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:20 PM (VTu1l)

Ben has an elevated sense of his own knowledge and intelligence, but when it comes to Israel, he really does know what he is talking about, and he is going toe to toe with some scummy Hamas apologists and out-and-proud Jew-haters.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2023 06:25 PM (3Gtis)

243 219 Get Iran to attack Ukraine. That's about the only way you'll get France and Germany to stop trading with Iran.

And even that might not be enough.

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 06:25 PM (eT12Z)

244
The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy on most things.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 14, 2023 06:26 PM (+oR7L)

245 I love how they have members all around the globe.

************

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:26 PM (VTu1l)

246 >> No pics of Lil Ben's sister's fun bags?

Low hanging fruit.

Posted by: ace at November 14, 2023 06:26 PM (KRtlO)

247 I guess flat earthers have never ridden in a plane.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:26 PM (aD39U)

248 >> No pics of Lil Ben's sister's fun bags?

Low hanging fruit.
Posted by: ace at November 14, 2023 06:26 PM (KRtlO)


Nice melons, so to speak.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:26 PM (aD39U)

249 242 You know, I kinda find those flat earth theorists a bit intriguing…..
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger


I love how they have members all around the globe.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (XZrr7)

I bet people in Australia dont get this joke!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2023 06:26 PM (lwOKI)

250 So ten percent of that rebellion-minded 1/3 actually took up arms? That's got to be close to half of all the military aged men in that cohort? They were pissed.
Posted by: TexasDan at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (z/ifB)

Well in those days supplying an army in the field was no joke. The 10 or 15 thousand in a main army were as many people as a major city of the time. And you had to ship food to it wherever it wandered. By cart.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:26 PM (eoQWY)

251 Turtles, all the way down.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:27 PM (aD39U)

252 No pics of Lil Ben's sister's fun bags?

Low hanging fruit.
Posted by: ace


Well, yeah, now. She's gotten older.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2023 06:27 PM (XZrr7)

253 247 219 Get Iran to attack Ukraine. That's about the only way you'll get France and Germany to stop trading with Iran.

And even that might not be enough.
Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 06:25 PM (eT12Z)

Or stopping beer sales at soccer matches.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2023 06:28 PM (lwOKI)

254 and he is going toe to toe with some scummy Hamas apologists and out-and-proud Jew-haters.

********

Fair, that Oxford forum was a good example when he got a Palestinian to admit that it’s not Gaza they consider to be occupied territory but ALL of Israel

From the river to the sea, mkay

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:28 PM (VTu1l)

255 Has Candice ever acknowledged that "Social Autopsy" was a bad idea?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 14, 2023 06:28 PM (Bd6X8)

256 Get Iran to attack Ukraine. That's about the only way you'll get France and Germany to stop trading with Iran.

And even that might not be enough.
Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 06:25 PM (eT12Z)

They have shipped drones, and plans for drones to Russia when Russia was a bit short early on.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:28 PM (eoQWY)

257 Is Ben's sister also three apples tall?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:28 PM (aD39U)

258 What percent of the flat erf peeps really believe it vs having some fun trolling? Has to be like a 1:10 ratio right?

Posted by: Montec at November 14, 2023 06:28 PM (P5BwU)

259 I don't even know if this is true, but assuming it is, am I supposed to be impressed that he changed his public stance when it finally wasn't low status to do so?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at November 14, 2023 06:23 PM (dkAQ5)


So you admit you nothing about it but you assume that he changed his stance late in the Covid mess?

Okay.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2023 06:28 PM (3Gtis)

260
IIRC, there was some incident with Michelle Malkin and Geraldo on the O'Reilly factor which pissed her off.

It may have been about illegal immigration or something. Geraldo said he ought to spit on her or something like that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 14, 2023 06:29 PM (Mzdiz)

261 Bought Wheat Thins for my cream cheese. That was wrong.
Should have bought Triscuits.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (Tw76q)
.......

How about Ritz?
I put salami and cheese on those puppies.

Posted by: wth at November 14, 2023 06:29 PM (v0R5T)

262 How would Tehran fare if their lights went out for say six hours?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Sadly, better than any American city save one or two.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 14, 2023 06:29 PM (KSNKu)

263 I heard some mumblings about Israel having about 'two more weeks of toleration from the international community' to pack Hamas' prison wallet. I don't know or even understand why they think they need the international community's consent to do anything.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 14, 2023 06:29 PM (YRsIm)

264 A nice and surprising thing to see is the shock so many people are having watching Israel fight a REAL war, not a fake little war for the grifters that everyone else has been doing for 30 years or better. (looking at YOU Ukraine!) And because they are fighting a REAL war, and fighting to win, it's not going to last all that much longer.

for fun: a monument to Yassar Arafat gets the respect it deserves:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1724397964150411267

a sploedy-sploedy compilation:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1722977257583509906

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 06:30 PM (i9ffA)

265 Bought Wheat Thins for my cream cheese. That was wrong.
Should have bought Triscuits.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (Tw76q)

That is a catastrophic error, and one that calls into question your judgement about a great many things.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2023 06:31 PM (3Gtis)

266 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2023 06:28 PM (3Gtis)

I don’t remember him coming earlier than safe. Then again, I didn’t really ever watch him to be fair.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 14, 2023 06:31 PM (RUbwN)

267 It may have been about illegal immigration or something. Geraldo said he ought to spit on her or something like that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 14, 2023 06:29 PM (Mzdiz)

25 bux samw as downtown

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2023 06:31 PM (lwOKI)

268 Watching the Candace Owens clip about Nikki Haley -- look at her expression as she talks. She's got some serious hatred towards someone she's talking about.

I'm not saying it's the Jews, but I'm not saying it's not.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 14, 2023 06:31 PM (ivUef)

269 Smoked Gouda Triscuits are the bomb.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 14, 2023 06:32 PM (R4t5M)

270 "In fairness, nobody has really held Afghanistan."

A hole in the map where other countries aren't

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 14, 2023 06:32 PM (ou9hh)

271 I wonder whether Iran would experience a change in government if we sent all of the Iranian ex-pats back.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 14, 2023 06:33 PM (ou9hh)

272 Did anyone see Owens' catty (being nice here) tweet the day after Crowder released the Tranifesto? She broke the news about the police officers being suspended, implied that Crowder paid for the Tranifesto, preened about her cautiousness, and said her "source" was giving her the REAL motivation of the shooter.

Here's my question: Why couldn't she get that source to talk to her in the first place?

Nitter link:
https://tinyurl.com/3xnfb6zs

Posted by: pookysgirl, not a huge fan of phonies at November 14, 2023 06:33 PM (dtlDP)

273 Will Israel be able to make and keep Gaza a Palestinian Gun-, Explosives-, and Rocket-Free Zone? Will the US and the EU permit Israel to do it, for the long-term?
Posted by: Gref at November 14, 2023 06:25 PM (5fDan)

Israel should build a real wall with no gates. Cooperate on a UN controlled port for supplies. Sell water and electricity that can be cut off if arms show up again. Fortify the area and make it disarmed. They want a state, give them a state. But if they attack that state will be disbanded.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:34 PM (eoQWY)

274 "In fairness, nobody has really held Afghanistan."


I believe Alexander did.

Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:35 PM (gmo/4)

275 I generally enjoy hearing what both Shapiro and Owens have to say. But that last clip of her was disappointing; it's one thing to satirically suggest that a candidate is swayed by big-money interests (completely plausible in many/most cases), but her comment about public opinion going against Israel I find utterly counter-factual. Yeah, the media, college students, college faculty, and Islamists don't like Israel--nothing new there--but I think the vast majority of normals are solidly on the side of defeating evil, which means supporting Israel in this case.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 14, 2023 06:36 PM (XMwZJ)

276 Makes sense, so forget it.

Posted by: wth at November 14, 2023 06:36 PM (v0R5T)

277 My ancestors fought against the British in the Revolution.

Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:36 PM (gmo/4)

278 Posted by: pookysgirl, not a huge fan of phonies at November 14, 2023 06:33 PM (dtlDP)


Owens smacks of grift. The problem with this current tempest in a teapot is that Ben Shapiro is reprehensible. They both are firm in their beliefs--factual accuracy advantage to Sharper here, which means we can enjoy lots of injuries.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 14, 2023 06:36 PM (KSNKu)

279 Smoked Gouda Triscuits are the bomb.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Especially on the way out.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (KAi1n)

280 @rich_goldberg

CONFIRMED: STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUES SANCTIONS WAIVER GIVING IRAN ACCESS TO $10 BILLION.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (ZLI7S)

281 80 Candance Owens...Candance Owens...

Oh yeah...wasn't she on FOX News? Or was that Harris Faulkner?

I get confused. They all look and sound alike to me.

Fuck them all.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 14, 2023 05:45 PM (R/m4+)
*******
She hasn't been on Fox for awhile.
On the other hand, Harris Faulkner is excellent. I always record her show.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2023 05:51 PM (NpAcC)

-----
Didn't Faulkner call Arizona early for Biden? I doubt she's anything other than a GOPe conservative..

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (pIx7m)

282 Is Isreal going to allow it's citizens more guns?

Real head scratcher that one.

Posted by: DOYLE at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (Z8Yh2)

283 281 "In fairness, nobody has really held Afghanistan."

I believe Alexander did.

Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:35 PM (gmo/4)

and yet there's records of his occupying forces writing to him and saying things like "we can hold the cities easily, and defeat their armies in the field, but these damn tribesmen hide in the hills and pick us off one by one if we leave our walls."

2300 years, still the same place.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2023 06:39 PM (i9ffA)

284 STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUES SANCTIONS WAIVER GIVING IRAN ACCESS TO $10 BILLION.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (ZLI7S)

They are launching drones and rockets at our soldiers in Syria, and the state department wants to reward them.

Nuke Foggybottom!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2023 06:40 PM (3Gtis)

285 CONFIRMED: STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUES SANCTIONS WAIVER GIVING IRAN ACCESS TO $10 BILLION.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (ZLI7S)
......

The lunatics are running our asylum.

Posted by: wth at November 14, 2023 06:40 PM (v0R5T)

286 >>They are launching drones and rockets at our soldiers in Syria, and the state department wants to reward them.

>>Nuke Foggybottom!

We can probably stop debating the best way to attack Iran now.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 06:40 PM (ZLI7S)

287 279 Did anyone see Owens' catty (being nice here) tweet the day after Crowder released the Tranifesto? She broke the news about the police officers being suspended, implied that Crowder paid for the Tranifesto, preened about her cautiousness, and said her "source" was giving her the REAL motivation of the shooter.

Here's my question: Why couldn't she get that source to talk to her in the first place?

Nitter link:
https://tinyurl.com/3xnfb6zs
Posted by: pookysgirl, not a huge fan of phonies at November 14, 2023 06:33 PM (dtlDP)

Then proceeded to use What Crowder uncovered in her podcast

Grifters gotta Grift

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 14, 2023 06:41 PM (dKiJG)

288 STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUES SANCTIONS WAIVER GIVING IRAN ACCESS TO $10 BILLION.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (ZLI7S)

AAAAAA!
AAAAAAAA!
AAAAAA!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Channeling Frank Grimes at November 14, 2023 06:42 PM (T/Lqj)

289 I heard some mumblings about Israel having about 'two more weeks of toleration from the international community' to pack Hamas' prison wallet. I don't know or even understand why they think they need the international community's consent to do anything.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 14, 2023 06:29 PM (YRsIm)

Nah. Nobody really likes the Gazans, or they'd be at war. Iran could have had Hezbollah get frisky and the Marines and carriers couldn't do much about it. Having an active north front would make ammo expenditure and reserves a potential problem, and Israel can't really hold Lebanon as they have found out. They will make a bunch of noise to mollify their own lunatics much like Biden does with his ceasefire suggestions and let things go. While it is useful for Iran to have a force at Israel's back losing Hamas if the IDF can do it matters little with them entering the BRICS and trading with Russia and China.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:42 PM (eoQWY)

290
CONFIRMED: STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUES SANCTIONS WAIVER GIVING IRAN ACCESS TO $10 BILLION.

It can only be used to buy rutabagas.

Posted by: John Kirby at November 14, 2023 06:42 PM (63Dwl)

291 261 Germans as a culture will seek to avoid nation-on-nation conflict at almost all costs as far as their own foreign policy goes; they will defer to a NATO operation because they feel like it gives them sufficient international cover.

Iran shipping weaponry to Russia to be used in Ukraine gives Germans sufficient reason to avoid conflict.

Taking beer away during soccer matches. . . that _might_ do it!

Posted by: SPinRH_F-16 at November 14, 2023 06:42 PM (eT12Z)

292 STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUES SANCTIONS WAIVER GIVING IRAN ACCESS TO $10 BILLION.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (ZLI7S)


It's the 400 commies again!

Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:43 PM (gmo/4)

293 Bought Wheat Thins for my cream cheese. That was wrong.
Should have bought Triscuits.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 06:24 PM (Tw76q)

Always. What were you thinking?!?!?!?!

Posted by: LASue at November 14, 2023 06:43 PM (bLe0J)

294 I am so sick of anti-semites and this biden admin
Not necessarily in that Order

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 14, 2023 06:43 PM (PQ4m2)

295 Well past 100, so I will, at some risk, refer to the last post:

So Biden Calls Him a "Prick"
—Disinformation Expert Ace
------------

Kinda late to the party Joe. The rest of us have known this for 20 years. Why, it's as if you are slow on the uptake.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 14, 2023 06:44 PM (XeU6L)

296 Hamas Says All The AK-47s Found In Gaza Hospital Were Strictly For Medicinal Use

-
Nicholas Fondacaro
@NickFondacaro
Pro-Hamas MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell is still falsely insisting that Hamas is not using hospitals as human shields.
"The counter from Israel is that Hamas has tunneled under the hospitals. We have not seen that intelligence. That's based on IDF video, IDF claims."

-
Now, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, she's seen that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 14, 2023 06:44 PM (FVME7)

297 43 >>>To wit, it feels too damn good to rush out to destroy a stranger's life, and so we ought to be very suspicious about cruelty that comes in the guise of sanctimony.


This isn't the Ace I know.
Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (xPl2J)

You're right. Sounds more like Chuy.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 14, 2023 06:44 PM (venpK)

298 Company behind Miss Universe files for bankruptcy after accepting transgender contestants

Posted by: DB - can you dig my groove at November 14, 2023 06:44 PM (geLO8)

299 Didn't Faulkner call Arizona early for Biden? I doubt she's anything other than a GOPe conservative..
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (pIx7m)
*******
She didn't.
Besides I am so past that mistake. If I held every mistake ever uttered by any Republican, conservative etc. I would have nothing to read or listen to.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2023 06:44 PM (NpAcC)

300 STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUES SANCTIONS WAIVER GIVING IRAN ACCESS TO $10 BILLION.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2023 06:37 PM (ZLI7S)


Interesting timing for this one. A big F-U to those who believe we are not nearly tough enough on Iran.

Posted by: Gref at November 14, 2023 06:45 PM (5fDan)

301 Candace Owen's comments about Nicki Haely and Israel don't seem to be a cut on Israel sspporters- they're a cut on Nicki Haley.

Posted by: LASue at November 14, 2023 06:45 PM (bLe0J)

302 Nicholas Fondacaro
@NickFondacaro
Pro-Hamas MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell is still falsely insisting that Hamas is not using hospitals as human shields.
"The counter from Israel is that Hamas has tunneled under the hospitals. We have not seen that intelligence. That's based on IDF video, IDF claims."

cunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 14, 2023 06:46 PM (PQ4m2)

303 The IDF is acting on IDF intelligence?

What monsters.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 14, 2023 06:47 PM (9UlRk)

304
This isn't the Ace I know.
Posted by: Victor Davis Hanson at November 14, 2023 05:46 PM (xPl2J)

You're right. Sounds more like Chuy.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
-----

I was thinking Lamont.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 14, 2023 06:47 PM (XeU6L)

305 Pro-Hamas MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell is still falsely insisting that Hamas is not using hospitals as human shields.
"The counter from Israel is that Hamas has tunneled under the hospitals. We have not seen that intelligence. That's based on IDF video, IDF claims."



I am sure the IDF will let her go in with the sappers to check the validity of their claims.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:47 PM (aD39U)

306 If I held every mistake ever uttered by any Republican, conservative etc. I would have nothing to read or listen to.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2023 06:44 PM (NpAcC)

I remedied that by never listening to any one of them. I do my real-life job and hang out here, often at the same time.

One of the benefits of working at a company with no internet restrictions and a beer fridge.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at November 14, 2023 06:48 PM (T/Lqj)

307 The Biden administration has unlocked another $10 billion for the Iranian regime.

https://t.co/T99OTv1jIV

Posted by: Ciampino - I am Anon y Mous & love it ... at November 14, 2023 06:48 PM (qfLjt)

308 The IDF is acting on IDF intelligence?

What monsters.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
----

Those bastards.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 14, 2023 06:48 PM (XeU6L)

309 Well past 100, so I will, at some risk, refer to the last post:

So Biden Calls Him a "Prick"
—Disinformation Expert Ace
------------

Kinda late to the party Joe. The rest of us have known this for 20 years. Why, it's as if you are slow on the uptake.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 14, 2023 06:44 PM (XeU6L)

Yep; a rare cases where both dems are right. Biden definitely is too old and feeble (and corrupt); and Axelrod definitely is a prick.

Posted by: LASue at November 14, 2023 06:48 PM (bLe0J)

310 Interesting timing for this one. A big F-U to those who believe we are not nearly tough enough on Iran.
Posted by: Gref at November 14, 2023 06:45 PM (5fDan)

Lincoln was quoted at "One War at a Time" during the ACW when the Navy grabbed a Confed Diplomat off a British ship.

We currently are in at least 2-3 hot wars now, we don't need to add any more. Giving them money is a bad idea though. The last billions didn't last very long, did they.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:48 PM (eoQWY)

311 The IDF is acting on IDF intelligence?

What monsters.



WHERE'S BEEKS?!?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:49 PM (aD39U)

312 310 The Biden administration has unlocked another $10 billion for the Iranian regime.

https://t.co/T99OTv1jIV
Posted by: Ciampino - I am Anon y Mous & love it ... at November 14, 2023 06:48 PM (qfLjt)


Gotta keep Minnesota and Michigan Blue, ya know.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 14, 2023 06:49 PM (KSNKu)

313 Company behind Miss Universe files for bankruptcy after accepting transgender contestants
Posted by: DB
-------

It's a mystery.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 14, 2023 06:50 PM (XeU6L)

314 Jew hating bus drivers at Dulles left 900 Jews stranded at Dulles Airport, refusing to transport them from their planes to the terminal.

https://t.co/87hNzhWBhB

Posted by: Ciampino - I am Anon y Mous & love it .. at November 14, 2023 06:50 PM (qfLjt)

315 I'd personally be fine if Israel said "yeah we bombed that hospital.
We wanted to. Because fuck yo hospital."

You don't go on a rape and murder spree and then cry foul when your shit gets blown up in retaliation.

Fuck yo hospital.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 14, 2023 06:51 PM (9UlRk)

316 Even Biden's STAFF think he is too old to campaign and govern: President's inner circle cast even MORE doubt on 80-year-old's 2024 run as they try and 'block him from the press,' report claims


Daily Mail

Posted by: DB - can you dig my groove at November 14, 2023 06:51 PM (geLO8)

317 That is a catastrophic error, and one that calls into question your judgement about a great many things.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
---

Go ahead say it, I'm cheap.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 06:52 PM (Tw76q)

318 308 Pro-Hamas MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell is still falsely insisting that Hamas is not using hospitals as human shields.
"The counter from Israel is that Hamas has tunneled under the hospitals. We have not seen that intelligence. That's based on IDF video, IDF claims."



I am sure the IDF will let her go in with the sappers to check the validity of their claims.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 14, 2023 06:47 PM (aD39U)


But NBC and the rest of the Media Cabal were happy, nay, overjoyed, to broadcast every slander against Trump the DeepState fed them, with no hard evidence provided.

Posted by: Gref at November 14, 2023 06:52 PM (5fDan)

319 STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUES SANCTIONS WAIVER GIVING IRAN ACCESS TO $10 BILLION.
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The timing is a bit too convenient. I wonder if this is Iran's payment for keeping Hezbollah on the sidelines.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 14, 2023 06:52 PM (sWM8x)

320 they're a cut on Nicki Haley.

***********

Haley’s comment that we need Israel was the stupidest fucking thing I ever read in my 29 years of existence

Who sent $14 billion to who, you stupid fucking bint?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at November 14, 2023 06:53 PM (VTu1l)

321 Sundowner isn't running, the powers that be know he might not make it

Posted by: Skip at November 14, 2023 06:53 PM (fwDg9)

322 Jew hating bus drivers at Dulles left 900 Jews stranded at Dulles Airport, refusing to transport them from their planes to the terminal.


My guess is that they're muzzies, here illegally, on the terrorist watch list, and nothing will be done to them as a consequence.


Posted by: Archer at November 14, 2023 06:53 PM (gmo/4)

323 You don't go on a rape and murder spree and then cry foul when your shit gets blown up in retaliation.
-----

As one insightful Moron observed, 'Japan should have called for a ceasefire immediately after bombing Pearl Harbor'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 14, 2023 06:53 PM (XeU6L)

324 I’m hearing multiple bus trips to the March for Israel rally are being cancelled, because Muriel Bowser won’t let passengers get dropped off in D.C.

https://is.gd/kLAxzb

Posted by: Ciampino - I am Anon y Mous & love it . at November 14, 2023 06:53 PM (qfLjt)

325 "The Biden administration has unlocked another $10 billion for the Iranian regime"

How is this not treason?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 14, 2023 06:54 PM (MeG8a)

326 STATE DEPARTMENT ISSUES SANCTIONS WAIVER GIVING IRAN ACCESS TO $10 BILLION.

Posted by: JackStraw


Pretty much the textbook definition of treason.

Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2023 06:54 PM (FhXTo)

327 because Muriel Bowser won’t let passengers get dropped off in D.C.

https://is.gd/kLAxzb
Posted by: Ciampino - I am Anon y Mous & love it . at November 14, 2023 06:53 PM (qfLjt)

So disembark on the edge of town and walk in.

In formation.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 14, 2023 06:55 PM (9UlRk)

328 Archer safe bet

Posted by: Skip at November 14, 2023 06:55 PM (fwDg9)

329 Look, let's be clear about Nikki Haley, for one....

She ABSOLUTELY, 100% has cashed in. Not from Israel, but from the Military Industrial Complex. Her bread is buttered on war. Period. She supports more support for Ukraine, she supports more aid for Israel. Because for every $100 spend on either of them, $1 is getting back to Nikki Haley.

So, Candace Owens may be off target a bit on that one, but she's in the area of the target.

Posted by: deadrody at November 14, 2023 06:55 PM (kYmXc)

330 Ok time to watch football

Posted by: DB - can you dig my groove at November 14, 2023 06:56 PM (geLO8)

331 Look, let's be clear about Nikki Haley, for one....

She ABSOLUTELY, 100% has cashed in. Not from Israel, but from the Military Industrial Complex. Her bread is buttered on war. Period. She supports more support for Ukraine, she supports more aid for Israel. Because for every $100 spend on either of them, $1 is getting back to Nikki Haley.

So, Candace Owens may be off target a bit on that one, but she's in the area of the target.
Posted by: deadrody at November 14, 2023 06:55 PM (kYmXc)

Nikki looks to be a somewhat more masculine version of Lindsey Graham.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2023 06:58 PM (eoQWY)

332 nood quickies


CBD, please ban all the non-nooding bastiges!

Posted by: Gref at November 14, 2023 06:59 PM (5fDan)

333 >>>We currently are in at least 2-3 hot wars now, we don't need to add any more. Giving them money is a bad idea though. The last billions didn't last very long, did they.

Posted by: Oldcat
===

Going to war with Russia is dumber than going to war with China.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 14, 2023 07:00 PM (Tw76q)

334 "don't think that one incident is disqualifying. Little secret about being a public bloviator..."

Very wise. That's why I love you

I'm not ready to give up on Owens either.
She fights back. We need people with will.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at November 14, 2023 07:04 PM (yOuOm)

335 >>> "In fairness, nobody has really held Afghanistan."
I believe Alexander did.
Posted by: Archer

As I recollect, he waved his dick in their general direction and some of hangers-on ran it as a greek colony for 500 years...

Then some peace loving buddists from india moved in and put the locals to work making giant buddas all over the then...

...genghis khan...
...uncle mo's msiguided children...

They were the Highway to Empire

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 14, 2023 07:20 PM (cOq4q)

336 Late to the party, sadly, but I don't like either, let them destroy each other, the Daily Wire is nothing but a giant grift formed by combining all the other grifts. Owens is a grifter but smart enough to use her privilege pass as a black woman to drop some deserved truths and has done more than lil' Ben WRECKING college trannies.

Shapiro has been so psychotically pro-Israel it's getting to the point where even Matt Walsh (tryhard tough guy) is even saying this slavish adherence people in this country have to OTHER COUNTRIES is getting ridiculous. I've never seen lil' Ben suck America's dick as hard as he's sucking Israel's right now and it's getting incredibly annoying.

Deus Vult, Catholics first (not Jesuits they don't count!).

Posted by: UwU_Power at November 14, 2023 07:25 PM (XfTKH)

337 Jesus H. Christ, knock off the f-ing infighting.

Posted by: West at November 14, 2023 07:31 PM (QY+6a)

338 Sorry to be late to the game. Today was death by PowerPoint. With that out of the way, my issue with the foreign policy of the neoconservative/chickenhawk wing of the stupid party is that we suck at war. Not at the tactical doorkicker level, but pretty much anything that involves any sort of operational or strategic thinking. We've totally forgot how to war like we did in WWII. No pauses, no escalation, no cease fires, no armistices, none of that bullshit. Hammer them hard, often, and repeatedly. Call it the LeMay plan. Don't stop until there's not 2 bricks standing on top of each other. THEN maybe people will stop fucking with us.
Oh yeah, cut the number of GOFOs by about 30% (to start).

Posted by: Stacy0311 at November 14, 2023 07:33 PM (jakr0)

339 At what point is not having a hard-on for defending Israel antisemitism? It's not a hard left or alt-right thing. I have friends on both sides, and many in the middle. They are all tired of us funding every other nation's wars. I don't want to fund another bullet for Israel, Ukraine, or Somalia. However, I think we should tell Israel do whatever they need to do and we'll veto any resolution that goes to the security council.

Posted by: Dr.Eviler at November 14, 2023 08:49 PM (OQdb6)

340 Too much time with Ye?

Posted by: greg at November 15, 2023 07:31 AM (/PA6P)

341 Oops.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 16, 2023 10:48 AM (rbKZ6)

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