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Hi, KT . . . Rhubarb's roots run deep. The first record of rhubarb (that we know of) dates back to the 3rd century A.D. That text, "The Herbal Classic of Shen Nong," discusses the "Divine Farmer," who is believed to have lived sometime around 2800 B.C. They were the first to identify rhubarb as a "cure" for stomach ailments. In the 9th century, Arab doctors also used rhubarb as medicine. By the 1500s, France was using it as folk medicine. It was four times as expensive as saffron and ten times more than cinnamon. Russian even attempted to monopolize the European rhubarb industry in the 1600s, but it was smuggled into Britain during the 1700s. It wasn't long afterward that rhubarb caught on as produce and became a popular dessert ingredient (via South China Morning Post). Rhubarb is naturally sour, but there is a way to grow it sweetly. In 1817, gardeners in London covered leftover rhubarb crowns with soil, and then weeks later, the plants grew pink stems with frilly leaves. That's how it was first discovered mature rhubarb roots could be replanted indoors with low light where the plant instead uses stored glucose to grow. This process makes the rhubarb a lot sweeter, per BBC Travel. Such a revelation created a new market for rhubarb. According to Fine Dining Lovers, forced rhubarb became a winter crop, which was especially useful in the 19th century before fridges were invented. There were 200 forced-rhubarb producers at one point, but logistical issues born from World War II put a stop to much of that. Nowadays, only a dozen producers grow forced rhubarb in the nine-square-mile "Rhubarb Triangle," as reported by Fine Dining Lovers. . .Think you could force some in a pot?
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Hope everyone has a nice weekend and a great Thanksgiving. If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is: ktinthegarden at g mail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker. Week in Review What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, November 11 Any thoughts or questions? I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2023 01:31 PM (fwDg9) 2
Echo
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 18, 2023 01:31 PM (S8hJY) 3
beautiful decoration up top! and no I did not know there were thanksgiving cactus either.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 18, 2023 01:33 PM (q3gwH) 4
The water gushing from the tree is amazing!
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 18, 2023 01:34 PM (MeG8a) 5
Leaf collection finally got started last few days, no where near the end as some are still on the trees.
Compost bil is almost 1/4 filled. 5 feet x 8 feet x 6 feet high. Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2023 01:35 PM (fwDg9) 6
Our Christmas cactus looks like it wants to bloom for Thanksgiving this year. Some years it has brilliant red foliage, this year it is white. It's just a guess, but the years it's been kinda neglected it blooms red, years where it's been treated well it is white. My tomatoes are still producing under a south facing overhang despite a pretty severe frost the past week. Six months of production in this climate zone isn't bad. Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 18, 2023 01:41 PM (enJYY) 7
When a young kid, neighbor lady grew rhubarb in garden, we use to just pick it and eat it like a celery stick, not sure would now
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2023 01:41 PM (fwDg9) 8
Great pictures, thanks KT.
I'd love to see the smiling pumpkin IRL. Rain today so after a bit I'm going to spread a bunch of california poppy seeds as well as lupine seeds picked up in Montana and hope the birds don't get them all. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 18, 2023 01:41 PM (OEuiW) 9
Comment will be combination garden and pet thread.
In my months long rehabilitation of my backyard, I completely eradicated all unwanted weeds (mostly very well established crabgrass). Now everything is planted for next year, or alternately resurfaced. My cat used to munch on the crabgrass, which is no more. So I grew for him a patch of oat grass, about 6" square. It's beautiful, tall and green. He won't touch it. LOL Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 18, 2023 01:46 PM (MeG8a) 10
7 Be careful. Some parts of rhubarb (the leaves?) are poisonous.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 18, 2023 01:50 PM (JrojV) 11
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Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 18, 2023 01:59 PM (JrojV) 12
The only thing that would help my "yard", would be the all-too-expensive option of having a contractor come in, shave off the top six-inches of "soil" (contaminated Galveston Bay mud deposited by Hurricane Ike), and spread a nice, new layer of high-quality topsoil, with a lush carpet of Bermuda Grass sod, as a topping.
Because I hate St. Augustine "grass" with the heat of a thousand suns. I would also have said contractor drive steel "root barriers" a full 18" deep at both sides of the property line, so as to help keep the neighbors' St. Augustine trash from encroaching. Meanwhile, I'll just dutifully mow the weeds, as needed. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at November 18, 2023 02:00 PM (e6UQI) 13
If you drive between Dallas, Oregon and Spirit Mountain Casino on the Grand Ronde reservation, you can see that smiley face on the hill about where the weigh-station is. It is a pretty good job of forest surveying by the way, planting trees in a pattern on a steep slope is not a picnic.
During the spring and summer you can see it as a change in texture. Posted by: Kindltot at November 18, 2023 02:04 PM (D7oie) 14
I dragged my eight foot wide portable solar panel out today here in SE PA. Beautiful clear blue sky, no clouds. Output? 50% of what it was during the summer. I have a perfect location for solar, but when I really want that power I get only half as much as during the summer when I only want a little? Don't think I'll be jumping into it full fledged at any time in the future. Between the panel and the battery I have enough backup to endure days, weeks, or even months with enough power to survive - if the sun is out. Power to well pump, heated water for shower, some lights, small usage kitchen appliances to cook. Good enough. Life at 1/32 of normal usage per day. Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 18, 2023 02:05 PM (enJYY) 15
K T bringing the content today!
I love those alliums--they look like 4th of July sparklers. My Thanksgiving cacti are blooming. One pink, one red. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 18, 2023 02:06 PM (OX9vb) 16
Well that was 50 years ago. If whatever I ate was poisonous I lived to tell about it.
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2023 02:08 PM (fwDg9) 17
7 When a young kid, neighbor lady grew rhubarb in garden, we use to just pick it and eat it like a celery stick, not sure would now
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2023 01:41 PM (fwDg9) We did that, too. I think I still would. The leaves are poisonous, not the stalk. It's weird how one part of a plant can be poison, and the other food. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 18, 2023 02:12 PM (OX9vb) 18
My Dad bought a house with a little patch of rhubarb and from the smell of it I never had the least desire to taste it. He cooked it up and ate it though. He also ate liver smothered in onions, sheep guts, and a bunch of other crap. Probably what put him in an early grave at almost 90 years of age. Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 18, 2023 02:14 PM (enJYY) 19
Well, hell. Gotta go.
Driver reports engine malf. Mechanic already on the way. If that van was a horse, I'd have it put down. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at November 18, 2023 02:19 PM (e6UQI) 20
My recollection is rhubarb is a cross between celery and sour strawberries
Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2023 02:19 PM (fwDg9) 21
Small gardening triumph here: for the first time ever, I have a plumeria in bloom. This is my first success in years of trying.
Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2023 02:22 PM (Sf2cq) 22
mall gardening triumph here: for the first time ever, I have a plumeria in bloom. This is my first success in years of trying.
Posted by: Emmie Plumeria have very pretty blossoms! What color are your plants' blossoms? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 18, 2023 02:30 PM (OEuiW) 23
Nice, Emmie. I haven't ever tried growing that.
Gardening non-triumph for me: I finally dug up the sweet potatoes. I had about four large tubers, and half of a five-gallon bucket full of tiny- to medium-size tubers. Out of a plot that is about 4 x 10 feet. So disappointed. I need to figure out how to do this better, otherwise it is a lot of space and waiting for little yield. I only bother because it is a large part of the dogs' food, and I would like to be able to grow a lot of that myself. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 18, 2023 02:30 PM (OX9vb) 24
There is an old mulberry tree approximately150years old in the village of Dinosa in Montenegro. This tree has been gushing water since the 1990's
It sits on underground streams and its hollows act as a relief valve for the pressure that builds up after heavy rainfall… Show more And its connected to the Panama Canal, right ? Posted by: JT at November 18, 2023 02:31 PM (T4tVD) 25
Hiya
Posted by: JT at November 18, 2023 02:32 PM (T4tVD) 26
Plumeria have very pretty blossoms!
What color are your plants' blossoms? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 18, 2023 02:30 PM (OEuiW) They are opening very slowly and I think the color deepens as the blossoms age. Right now they are creamy white with a bit of yellow and pink accenting the edges. I expect the yellow and pink areas will widen. Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2023 02:37 PM (Sf2cq) 27
Oh forgot
Last week picked last of biggest hot peppers to make chili, but with instructions for upcoming procedure not to eat fibrous food so cutting out vegetables. Guess will still use them but peak time was a few days ago. And have had light frost as all outside plants are done but those in the mini greenhouse are still going, some new flowers. Thinking of moving it next year to a sunny better spot. Posted by: Skip at November 18, 2023 02:41 PM (fwDg9) 28
I need to figure out how to do this better, otherwise it is a lot of space and waiting for little yield. I only bother because it is a large part of the dogs' food, and I would like to be able to grow a lot of that myself.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 18, 2023 02:30 PM (OX9vb) I bet with some experimentation you can get better yields. Sometimes I think extra fertilizing is more effective than we think, especially if we are depending on compost. Compost is good but I'm not sure it is sufficient in closer plantings in limited space. But I don't really know. I just know my own garden does not yield very heavily. Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2023 02:42 PM (Sf2cq) 29
Right now they are creamy white with a bit of yellow and pink accenting the edges. I expect the yellow and pink areas will widen.
Posted by: Emmie Nice! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 18, 2023 02:43 PM (OEuiW) 30
The soil quality in that particular garden spot is excellent, and gets some additional compost every spring. I think I read that you should train the vines up on something, and not let them trail on the ground, as I have been doing.
That way, you get better tubers. I thought I could get more potatoes as the vines trailed, because they send additional roots. But I get little bitty things that are about 1/4" diameter. So, no good. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 18, 2023 02:47 PM (OX9vb) 31
I bought this plumeria several years ago. I bought it while it was in bud in order to guarantee that I would get flowers, but that never happened because the grasshoppers or something came along and ate the buds before they could open.
So then it sulked for a few years and finally, in very late summer this year, it decided to try again. I have it indoors now because we're having cold nights. Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2023 02:47 PM (Sf2cq) 32
That way, you get better tubers. I thought I could get more potatoes as the vines trailed, because they send additional roots. But I get little bitty things that are about 1/4" diameter. So, no good.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 18, 2023 02:47 PM (OX9vb) Maybe too many tiny tubers are taking plant energy away from making larger tubers? It's so hard to tell because you would think that rooting along the vines would allow the plant to get more nutrients to support more production. Posted by: Emmie at November 18, 2023 02:50 PM (Sf2cq) 33
Wife planted cherry tomato, bell pepper and cucumber in pots. She brought them in to the solarium when it got cold. They are still producing, especially the cherry tomato.
Posted by: Ronster at November 18, 2023 02:50 PM (g2hew) Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 18, 2023 02:55 PM (su5Mv) 35
I'm at a craft show. There is some guy wandering around that looks like Joe Biden. Same confused look on his face. I havent seen him go after any small children but I'm keeping an eye on that guy.
Posted by: fd at November 18, 2023 03:01 PM (tIsq8) 36
We're putting all the gardens to bed for the winter, almost finished. Putting up shelters in the chicken yard, consisting of Tposts, arched cake panels and reinforced construction plastic to make areas the chooks can get out of the wind and rain, and still get some sun. Cleaning out the hen house one more time before winter, and putting the spoiled hay/manure on new beds to be planted next year.
I do have the hoop house to finish clearing for winter, but I'm tired and don't want to do it! But... if I want to"winter sow" some cabbages and broccoli in February, I better get it done this week. Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 18, 2023 03:05 PM (Rbu5d) 37
A couple of booths down is a lady selling potted Amarylis (spelling?). $25. i dont know if thats a good deal but she is moving rhem.
Posted by: fd at November 18, 2023 03:05 PM (tIsq8) 38
I'm at a craft show. There is some guy wandering around that looks like Joe Biden. Same confused look on his face. I havent seen him go after any small children but I'm keeping an eye on that guy.
Posted by: fd Craft show booths full of mirrors? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 18, 2023 03:06 PM (OEuiW) 39
The only thing left in our garden is rosemary, garlic, and scallions. I left the last couple of cucumbers so they can maybe repropagate themselves next year.
Posted by: fd at November 18, 2023 03:12 PM (tIsq8) 40
Craft show booths full of mirrors?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 18, 2023 03:06 PM (OEuiW) Heh. You so mean. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 18, 2023 03:13 PM (OX9vb) Posted by: mikeski at November 18, 2023 03:21 PM (DgGvY) 42
Bulgaroctonus at November 18, 2023 01:50 PM
Rhubarb leaves are poisonous because of their high concentration of oxalic acid. Rhubarb stems also contain oxalic acid. It's what makes rhubarb tart. A lot of foods contain oxalic acid in varying amounts. Sorrel contains quite a bit. Spinach, beet greens and chard contain moderate amounts of oxalates. If your teeth feel funny when you eat these foods, that's why. There's an interaction with calcium. People prone to kidney stones may need to watch out for some of these foods. Posted by: KT at November 18, 2023 03:29 PM (rrtZS) 43
The highest organic nitrogen is bat guano. Let me recommend Steve Solomon's Gardening When It Counts book. He has a formula for making your own fertilizer and how to use it.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 18, 2023 03:38 PM (t0dV9) 44
I planted fall spinach and now have lots of little spinach leaves. I put some in an Asiago cream sauce along with some dried tomatoes over Linguini. It was a hit with the hubby. Will try to remember to plant garlic and onions soon. When I put them in last Spring, they all rotted in the ground. My potatoes didn't produce enough this year to justify the space. Zone 6B, South Central Pa. Everything else all cleaned up and put to bed for winter. Love the photos!
Posted by: NoLongerintheBellyoftheBeast at November 18, 2023 03:48 PM (5XUmo) 45
Between the allium sparklers and the tree fountain, this was an engrossing post! Thanks, KT.
My garden progress this week was repotting four succulents in one huge pot. I offered their former homes to a high schooler who loves plants. Also I planted potted mums and some daffodil bulbs in empty space where the oak once stood. I will miss its foliage but hope flowers will make the loss a bit easier. Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 18, 2023 04:48 PM (RWCc+) 46
From Boise area: Lows 37-50, highs 56-66; very warm for Nov. but the forecast promises winter temps arriving this week.
Husband has been stuffing trash with dead vine crops, and using the sweeper-cart to pile leaves for today. Our 4-H friends came at 3 PM, to help us do a first pass on leaf disposal. Dads with leaf blowers, kids and moms with rakes, lots of bags, 90 minutes, and Husband taking 4 truck beds full to a local leaf bag disposal site. (Plus the cake decorating class leader brought treats!) We are grateful for their help! Husband had swept up oak leaves, to pile on the corn patch, and he burned them earlier this week. Some trees still have a lot of leaves to drop... Hope each of you reading this, has much to be grateful for at Thanksgiving, this year and every year! Posted by: Pat* at November 18, 2023 07:37 PM (TL3TN) Processing 0.01, elapsed 0.0163 seconds. |
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