THE MORNING RANT: Is the National World War II Museum Going Woke?

Can’t we have one museum that is not obsessed about vilifying this country? It sounds like the new Liberation Pavilion at the World War II Museum in New Orleans has taken a detour into the post-WWII era, seeking to become an all-encompassing museum of the post-war era. The detour appears to be a hard left turn.

It was a goal of mine to visit that museum, which I finally did about 10 years ago, spending an entire afternoon there by myself, taking it all in. It was magnificent. Separately, my wife contacted the museum and offered up some WWII-era items of her grandmother, which they accepted for their home front collection.

When I visited, I was already deeply sensitive to how so many great museums in America had been captured by activist, left-wing curators and educators who obsess endlessly about race, inequality, and what they perceive to be America’s shameful history. It struck me at the time how special it was that the WWII museum focused on so many aspects of the war effort, without letting the modern left-wing agenda infect the displays. I wondered if this could be sustained, fearing it couldn’t. It appears that my fears are now coming true.

While the new three-story Liberation Pavilion sounds like it has some impressive displays about the worst cruelties of the war, and the lights of humanity that somehow continued to shine amidst it all, it also has all-new displays covering the post-war era’s political turbulence, and assessing the legacy of the war through the prism of modern left-wing politics.

Let me start off by saying that discrimination and legal segregation were real and painful realities of this country’s history. But also never forget that Jim Crow was a command-and-control, big-government program administered by ruling-class southern Democrats, with the acquiescence of liberal northern Democrats who partnered with them to attain an electoral majority. I was not around then, and I bear no blame, but I will celebrate all of the good that came from the struggle to end legal discrimination. I will also argue that the spark of freedom unleashed with the Declaration of Independence led to this great country eventually fulfilling a promise of equality and opportunity for everyone that no other country can match.

With that said, a museum about a mighty war in the 1940s has no business addressing social issues of the 1950s and ‘60s. There are plenty of other forums for that. As far as segregation and discrimination during the war, of course that should be addressed, especially when discussing the gallantry of servicemen such as Doris Miller, the Navajo Code Talkers, the Tuskegee Airmen, etc.

With all that preface, here is AP’s report on the WWII Museum’s new wing.

“Grim yet hopeful addition to National WWII Museum addresses the conflict’s world-shaping legacy” [AP – 11/03/2023]

Underlying it all is the idea that almost 80 years later, the war’s social and geopolitical legacies endure — from the acceleration of civil rights and women’s equality movements in the U.S. to the formation of international alliances to protect democracy.

“Protecting democracy” is a buzz phrase of modern-day leftists who believe that any election or political movement that denies power to leftists is a ”threat to democracy.”

Aside from that, everything that happened before us is “history” and it all flowed from the history that preceded it. The changes that occurred in the 1950s and beyond have an immense number of cultural, historical, industrial, and other inputs. The war was a small subset of those inputs. Creating a display at the museum to highlight those other topics is politicized mission creep.

The pavilion’s second floor focuses in part on what those who served faced upon returning home — “the responsibilities at home and abroad to defend freedom, advance human rights, protect democracy,” said Michael Bell, a retired Army colonel and the executive director of the museum’s Institute for the Study of War and Democracy.

“Protect democracy.” There it is again.

“Defending freedom” and “advancing human rights” sound great, and maybe they are, but the simple reality is that the priorities of the immediate post-war era were pacifying Japan and Germany, and containing the Soviet Union so we wouldn’t have to re-fight the war.

There are numerous museums to be found that focus on the Cold War, NATO, the American Civil Rights movement, etc. A museum devoted to the global war in the 1940s should not be one of them.

Black veterans came back to a homeland still marred by segregation and even violence against people of color. Women had filled non-traditional roles at home and abroad. Pavilion exhibits make the case that their experiences energized efforts to achieve equality.

Reading this saddens me, because I have seen so many institutions hijacked by zealots who can never forgive America for not achieving 21st century purity in 1776 or 1789.

Again, there are stories about segregation during the war that need to be told, and the WWII Museum is absolutely the place to do so. Knowing the discrimination they faced, it makes the service of those being discriminated against even more significant.

Doris Miller was a mess attendant aboard the USS West Virginia at Pearl Harbor. His role was determined by his race, and he was not trained in firing weapons. When his ship was hit by Japanese torpedoes, he first attended to the stricken captain, and then grabbed an unattended .50-caliber machine gun and started firing at Japanese planes. He also helped injured men get to shore from the sinking ship. For his heroics, he was awarded the Navy Cross.

Doris Miller was killed in action in 1943. Tell this story. Leave the 1960s to another museum.

“Civil rights is the fifties and women’s equality is more like the sixties,” Citino said. “But we think both of those seminal changes in American society can be traced back in a significant way to World War II.”

Yes, everything can be traced back in some way or another to the history that preceded it. But a museum display about 1960’s women’s lib belongs in another venue, not at the WWII Museum.

“We talk about NATO or the United Nations, but I don’t know that most people understand that these are creations, American-led creations, from the war,” said Bell. “What our goal is, at least I’d say my goal, is to give the visitor a frame of reference or a lens in which way they can look at things going on in the world.”

Does the museum mention that the United Nations is full of anti-semites who think of Hitler as a role model? If America is complicit in creating the UN, then maybe I should feel a little bit of guilt and shame.

Real simple, the National World War II Museum should focus on World War II, and nothing else. Those directors and benefactors who can influence exhibits, curators, and educators need to take a stand now to keep the woke rot in the Liberation Pavilion from infecting the rest of the museum.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

2 Well, there aren't too many WWII vets left, so doing so would likely get little rejection from the public, sad to say.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

3 Podium

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2023 11:01 AM (fwDg9)

4 It was already crap when they went with the monoliths design.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 10, 2023 11:01 AM (di6C2)

5 Huh. Both threads are paused.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 10, 2023 11:03 AM (di6C2)

6 The Nazis' only mistake was being white.

Hamas behaves just like the Nazis, and 20% of Democrats support them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 10, 2023 11:04 AM (YAtuc)

7 Morning.

I'm home. Took for-freakin'-ever to get unloaded but I got our, got home, and I think I may have had to much to drink too quickly. My head is fine but doing anything more strenuous than laying down is...unappealing.

Anyway...off to read the content.

Posted by: Robert at November 10, 2023 11:04 AM (1Yy3c)

8 Conservatives don't become museum directors or curators. Same with librarians. They're always going to be run by leftists.

Posted by: brak at November 10, 2023 11:04 AM (25k9m)

9 Real simple, the National World War II Museum should focus on World War II, and nothing else. Those directors and benefactors who can influence exhibits, curators, and educators need to take a stand now to keep the woke rot in the Liberty Pavilion from infecting the rest of the museum.

This, infinity.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

10 Can’t we have[\i]

No. They want to destroy everything we have. Then kill us after we've suffered a bit.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at November 10, 2023 11:05 AM (tA1/w)

11 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 10, 2023 11:05 AM (T4tVD)

12 Huh. Both threads are paused.

For three hours. For humanitarian aid.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:05 AM (JrojV)

13 Huh. Both threads are paused.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 10, 2023 11:03 AM (di6C2)

Israel paused the wrong front?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

14 The Weapons of War exhibit in the film 'Demolition Man'. All the
guns were locked and loaded.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at November 10, 2023 11:05 AM (hirWM)

15 Seems like it's everywhere.

We spent two months touring all the Smithsonian sites earlier this year.

You can not escape the encrouchement of this woke crap in every aspect of our nations history, and our museums.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 10, 2023 11:05 AM (hH3Px)

16 This seems appropriate -

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
-George Orwell, 1984

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 10, 2023 11:06 AM (fs1hN)

17 Hamas behaves just like the Nazis, and 20% of Democrats support them.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at

20% may openly admit it but it's much higher than that.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but? at November 10, 2023 11:07 AM (yUu6q)

18 The Weapons of War exhibit in the film 'Demolition Man'. All the
guns were locked and loaded.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at November 10, 2023 11:05 AM (hirWM)

Hells YEAH!!!!

Posted by: Simon Phoenix at November 10, 2023 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

19 Seems like it's everywhere.

We spent two months touring all the Smithsonian sites earlier this year.

You can not escape the encrouchement of this woke crap in every aspect of our nations history, and our museums.

I saw something on Insty (I think) that the government is going to turn the national parks over to corporate entities to run. Think Blackrock, etc. So even those are going to go down the crapper.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:09 AM (JrojV)

20 "Conservatives don't become museum directors or curators. "

Why is this?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2023 11:10 AM (cvRuj)

21 Isn't the "protect democracy" trope a lame buzzword that was used decades ago in connection with WW2 and the Cold War? I recall the phrase being fashionable when it was fashionable to think we could bring peace and democracy to backwards people who didn't want it. Good times, good times.

I don't think the left invented the phrase a few years ago.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 10, 2023 11:10 AM (iFTx/)

22 Woke military begets woke military museums.

Posted by: Montec at November 10, 2023 11:11 AM (bWsRe)

23 I wouldn't worry too much. In a few years that museum will be forced to shut down and the artifacts destroyed to protect our "democracy".

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 10, 2023 11:11 AM (BdMk6)

24 WWII ended more than 75 years ago. The people who are interested in that war (beyond using it to compare anyone who disagrees with them to Hitler) are a dying breed. Our broken educational system isn't making any more of them either. I doubt museums like this have much of a future, which (apart from incessant wokism) helps explain the change.

Posted by: How connected are you to events that precede you by 50 or more years? at November 10, 2023 11:11 AM (KFhLj)

25 Too bad.

Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past — Winston Smith (George Orwell)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2023 11:12 AM (u4bMz)

26 “Protecting democracy” is a buzz phrase of modern-day leftists who believe that any election or political movement that denies power to leftists is a ”threat to democracy.”

And they don't mean democracy. The left has remapped the term. They really mean collectivist tyranny with pseudo-elections.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 10, 2023 11:12 AM (IG4Id)

27 Underlying it all is the idea that almost 80 years later, the war’s social and geopolitical legacies endure — from the acceleration of civil rights and women’s equality movements in the U.S. to the formation of international alliances to protect democracy.

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One thing that pissed me off about Ken Burns' generally excellent The Civil War was some black chick historian opining that the Civil War wasn't over because discrimination continued.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:12 AM (FVME7)

28 Conservatives don't become museum directors or curators. "

Why is this?
Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2023 11:10 AM (cvRuj)

Same reason they don’t become teachers or govt workers. These jobs are for people with no drive skills or ambition. Clock in clock out, for 35 years, retire.

Conservatives start businesses or aim to become senior vice president of something. Not so way corporations aren’t full of some people as well. But woke corporations are still populated with non-woke employees. The wokeness is institutional not so much at the ground level, if that makes sense.

Posted by: Montec at November 10, 2023 11:14 AM (bWsRe)

29 And they don't mean democracy. The left has remapped the term. They really mean collectivist tyranny with pseudo-elections.

Any election that the Left doesn't win is by definition stolen.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 10, 2023 11:14 AM (YAtuc)

30 The detour appears to be a hard left turn.

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Out: O'Sullivan's Law.
In: O'Sullivan's Yaw.

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 10, 2023 11:14 AM (g6nra)

31 16, 25 - Horde mind

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2023 11:15 AM (u4bMz)

32

I think we should focus on their 10 inch wangs... Years before the mast, let me tell you...

Posted by: Don Lemonparty at November 10, 2023 11:15 AM (0jXnc)

33 There is an enormous difference between museums created prior to the 2000's and new ones. Differences exist in the content presented as well as in the assumptions about the basic knowledge, patriotism, and reading level of the visitors.

The USS Alabama Museum in Mobile and the Admiral Nimitz and the Pacific War Museums in Fredericksburg are (or still were as of just a couple of years ago) excellent museums for Americans with reading abilities and attention spans greater than 9-year kids.

The WW2 Museum in New Orleans did leave a similar impression on me.

Posted by: Tar Bae at November 10, 2023 11:15 AM (uR4Tu)

34 One thing that pissed me off about Ken Burns' generally excellent The Civil War was some black chick historian opining that the Civil War wasn't over because discrimination continued.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:12 AM (FVME7)

Agree. She was definitely the worm in an otherwise delicious apple.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 10, 2023 11:15 AM (BdMk6)

35 The Nazis' only mistake was being white.

Hamas behaves just like the Nazis, and 20% of Democrats support them.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 10, 2023 11:04 AM (YAtuc)

There are people who are not leftists who really HAAAATE when anyone says fascism is socialism/leftism.

They can't get past the nazzies being rayciss, and then trying to put them on the completely artificial left/right spectrum because of it.

It's dummy dumbness at its dummiest.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2023 11:16 AM (QBaJw)

36 One thing that pissed me off about Ken Burns' generally excellent The Civil War was some black chick historian opining that the Civil War wasn't over because discrimination continued.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:12 AM (FVME7)

Same. Every segment that didn’t include Shelby Foote was second tier

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2023 11:16 AM (u4bMz)

37 Separately, my wife contacted the museum and offered up some WWII-era items of her grandmother, which they accepted for their home front collection.

I'm trying to think if there is anything left from my parents that dates back to the War??? Other than the Japanese rifle and bayonet, no. A couple of gifts for my mom that the ol man brought back from China before the war. But nothing from the war itself.
He did have an old coffee cup that he kept from his first cruise on the Lexington before he went to subs. From 1937. He had that for years and when I told him that was all I wanted when he died, he looked really sad and said it had broken a couple of weeks before.
Sigh...

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2023 11:17 AM (uSHSS)

38 Out: O'Sullivan's Law.
In: O'Sullivan's Yaw.

Gee, I never thought of that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:17 AM (JrojV)

39 Saw a tweet of an Asian kid with 1590 SAT and a 4.42 GPA who was denied admittance to all 8 Ivy schools he applied to. Meanwhile Shaquana or DeAndre with a 3.2 GPA and 1070 SAT gets a full scholarship.

But go on, tell me how racist America is…

Posted by: Montec at November 10, 2023 11:17 AM (bWsRe)

40 20 "Conservatives don't become museum directors or curators. "

Why is this?

Whatever the original reasons, these institutions are closed to conservatives now. Like academia. The hiring process is designed to keep them out.

Posted by: These institutions have been transformed to destroy you. at November 10, 2023 11:18 AM (KFhLj)

41 "Democracy" is an inadequate short-hand for what we really want, which is liberty-oriented, Constitutional self-government.

Posted by: Tar Bae at November 10, 2023 11:18 AM (uR4Tu)

42

Steal my strawberries!

Posted by: Don Lemonparty at November 10, 2023 11:18 AM (0jXnc)

43 Same reason they don’t become teachers or govt workers. These jobs are for people with no drive skills or ambition. Clock in clock out, for 35 years, retire.

It is a shame though. I wish more conservatives would go into those fields. The library one is a pet peeve of mine. My kids love the library, but it frustrates me every public library is left-wing propaganda on full display central, even in a red state.

Who is buying all of those tranny kids books, for example? Librarians for libraries.

Same with museums. Why is there a "white people bad" display at every history museum? Or a "people in general bad" at every science museum? Conservatives may donate money, but none work there.

Posted by: brak at November 10, 2023 11:18 AM (25k9m)

44 36 One thing that pissed me off about Ken Burns' generally excellent The Civil War was some black chick historian opining that the Civil War wasn't over because discrimination continued.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:12 AM (FVME7)

Same. Every segment that didn’t include Shelby Foote was second tier
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2023 11:16 AM (u4bMz)

I liked the one... seemed like a religious historian with the mustache and the glasses.

Ed Bearess(?) had an odd way of speaking, but he was memorable.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 10, 2023 11:19 AM (di6C2)

45 The people who are interested in that war are a dying breed.

Wow. So, the Gauls and Carthaginians are pretty much screwed, in your book, right? How many times a day do you not think about Rome?

That's a very...particular intellectual viewpoint you hold. You must have a lot of spare brain space for other pursuits.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 10, 2023 11:19 AM (4PZHB)

46 Well they could go all out racism on Asians while their at it.

For a military history buff. it's not just WWII that is getting rewritten

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2023 11:21 AM (fwDg9)

47 @33 Damn it.

The WW2 museum did ***NOT*** leave a similar impression on me.

It is decidedly inferior to older museums, and came across as puerile and superficial in comparison.

Posted by: Tar Bae at November 10, 2023 11:21 AM (uR4Tu)

48 6 The Nazis' only mistake was being white.

Hamas behaves just like the Nazis, and 20% of Democrats support them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 10, 2023 11:04 AM (YAtuc)

Also : Not being Muslims.

Even though they were allied with them.

Posted by: XTC at November 10, 2023 11:22 AM (7VV1E)

49 It is a shame though. I wish more conservatives would go into those fields. The library one is a pet peeve of mine. My kids love the library, but it frustrates me every public library is left-wing propaganda on full display central, even in a red state.
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I hear that. Same in my town. Our library system is very good and the buildings themselves are great. Really beautifully architected and inviting.

But everyone working there is a batshit crazy liberal. I know one personally, she’s one of my kids’ friend’s mom. It’s beyond parody. They have “we believe” sign in the yard, every election is he’s in Nextdoor 24/7 pimping for leftists, and so on.

Posted by: Montec at November 10, 2023 11:22 AM (bWsRe)

50 I don't care about even legitimate historical racial grievances. They're not endlessly brought up to make me a better person. They are brought up only to hold today's whites collectively responsible for the sins of people long dead. I'm done cooperating in my own show trial. Someone brings up race or racism, I'm done listening.

Posted by: That card is maxed out. Try another. at November 10, 2023 11:23 AM (KFhLj)

51 The only person more woke than government skool groomers and lieberrians is museum direktors.

Those 3 positions seem to attrack the weirdoes, freaks and marxist fanbois.

Layabouts All.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 10, 2023 11:23 AM (R/m4+)

52 My son texts me:

I was on a task force with department of homeland security and a bunch of other retailers. (Name of employer) gave me a partner, a tinted car and a telephoto lens and sent me to bust a fence. We spent all week doing mobile vehicle surveillance. I followed shoplifters to multiple other. Then to where they sold the stolen goods and finally back to their houses. We used TLO and homeland's FLOK system to look up their plates. We identified 50+ shoplifters and we are assembling the warrants now.

So DHS won't secure the border, but they are busting shoplifters.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 10, 2023 11:23 AM (aVP1Z)

53 When I visited, I was already deeply sensitive to how so many great museums in America had been captured by activist, left-wing curators and educators who obsess endlessly about race, inequality, and what they perceive to be America’s shameful history.

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* Monticello has entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 10, 2023 11:23 AM (WLUxG)

54 Wow. So, the Gauls and Carthaginians are pretty much screwed, in your book, right? How many times a day do you not think about Rome?

That's a very...particular intellectual viewpoint you hold. You must have a lot of spare brain space for other pursuits.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 10, 2023 11:19 AM (4PZHB)

Why do I get the feeling that the long bows vs. crossbows thingy is going to rear it's ugly head.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 10, 2023 11:23 AM (BdMk6)

55 “White Logic” and “Jew Physics”
Campus radicals have refreshed an ugly 1930s trope.

https://tinyurl.com/4p5cdkx5

Via Robert Shibley at Instapundit.

Posted by: Robert at November 10, 2023 11:24 AM (1Yy3c)

56 Conservatives may donate money, but none work there.
Posted by: brak at November 10, 2023 11:18 AM (25k9m)

They need to stop donating. Conservatives can be really stupid with their money.

Posted by: Montec at November 10, 2023 11:24 AM (bWsRe)

57

Rum, sodomy and the lash will set them straight!

Well, not straight, but...

Posted by: Don Lemonparty at November 10, 2023 11:24 AM (0jXnc)

58 the government is going to turn the national parks over to corporate entities to run.

This happened decades ago. When I first went to Yosemite in 1966 it was completely run by MCA, an entertainment conglomerate. Another major corporation had everything at Yellowstone.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 10, 2023 11:25 AM (4PZHB)

59 My dad was born in 1919, grew up in rural Nebraska and later Colorado on a dryland wheat farm. Graduated (ROTC) in 1940, was activated in 1942 shortly after Pearl Harbor and deployed to North Africa and on to Italy in mid-late 1943. I doubt that he had any personal contact with blacks prior to entering the Army. In the two years of nearly daily entries in his WWII diary he never once mentioned a fellow soldier's race or skin color, because IT JUST DIDN'T MATTER.

He did refer to Germans as "Gerries". Even though he grew up in German-American background (my grandfather was Hermann Frederick Sch****er) the German army was the enemy and thus"othered". As close to racist as you could call him, I suppose.

My point being that racism on an individual level is not generally what the sociologists and grievance mongers would have us believe.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 10, 2023 11:25 AM (991eG)

60 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: ZOD at November 10, 2023 11:25 AM (5HQE5)

61 Who is buying all of those tranny kids books, for example? Librarians for libraries.

Same with museums. Why is there a "white people bad" display at every history museum? Or a "people in general bad" at every science museum? Conservatives may donate money, but none work there.
Posted by: brak

City managers like other corporate managers just hire on the basis of college degrees. Library 'Science' is 100% Marxist captured now. You cannot find a program at any uni that isn't.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 10, 2023 11:26 AM (IG4Id)

62 Yet another example of why we need to utterly clean out our educational system, from K-12 and upward.

All the woke, non-Enlightenment advocates need to be shown the door.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 10, 2023 11:26 AM (xxG/v)

63 Doris Miller, the Navajo Code Talkers, the Tuskegee Airmen, etc.

Go For Broke!

Posted by: 442nd Infantry Regiment at November 10, 2023 11:26 AM (R/m4+)

64 Wow. So, the Gauls and Carthaginians are pretty much screwed, in your book, right? How many times a day do you not think about Rome?

That's a very...particular intellectual viewpoint you hold. You must have a lot of spare brain space for other pursuits.

You're assmad at the wrong fucking person (a common failing here at the HQ). I didn't say I'm not interested in these things, which I shouldn't have to underline, given what I wrote.

Posted by: That card is maxed out. Try another. at November 10, 2023 11:26 AM (KFhLj)

65 ... and assessing the legacy of the war through the prism of modern left-wing politics.

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I read that as "prison" ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 10, 2023 11:27 AM (WLUxG)

66 The Nazis and Commies eventually won WWII and the Cold War, long after our "victories" in those conflicts.

The only ones we really defeated for good were the Japanese militarists. But they just got replaced with ChiCom militarists, so maybe that wasn't such a complete victory, either.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:28 AM (JrojV)

67 Take the Pilgrimage to the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn
(Muhammed Liteville) Michigan, For my Birthday My Dad Master Sgt Joe took all the 5th Graders (all boys) to the Museum, and lunch at Daly's Burgers, never forgot that and I am sure Billy, Keith, Norman, Jimmy, if not demented at this time,also remember.
Lucky Me !!! Mom was a highly decorated commissioned Lt and Joe was a highly skilled CID agent. No FAFO at my house,

As a side note he was heavily recruited by the FBI, even back then he smelled the rot.

Posted by: Flag Waver at November 10, 2023 11:28 AM (LcRVs)

68 So DHS won't secure the border, but they are busting shoplifters.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

A large portion of the shoplifter squads are foreign nationals. LAPD just caught a Romanian ring last week.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 10, 2023 11:29 AM (IG4Id)

69 Things I never thought I'd see:
1) the Anne Frank Preschool being forced to change its name because it's offensive to Nazis
2) Jews being attacked in America by Nazis

Just because the Nazis call themselves Muslims doesn't mean they are not Nazis.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2023 11:29 AM (TzW+Y)

70 But if you want to believe that the ranks of millennials and zoomers are teeming with history of WWII enthusiasts, I can't stop you. Carry on. I'm sure you and those Year Zero, right-side-of-history twerps have many fascinating conversations to have about the battle of Kursk.

Posted by: That card is maxed out. Try another. at November 10, 2023 11:30 AM (KFhLj)

71 Whatever the original reasons, these institutions are closed to conservatives now. Like academia. The hiring process is designed to keep them out.
Posted by: These institutions have been transformed to destroy you. at November 10, 2023 11:18 AM (KFhLj)

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For academia yeah, it's closed.

But anyone can become a teacher. There's a massive shortage of teachers everywhere, they'll hire any warm body. But for whatever reason conservatives don't go into it. It may be because they don't' wan to be the lone sane person in an ocean of crazy. But that just perpetuates the problem.

Posted by: Montec at November 10, 2023 11:30 AM (bWsRe)

72 I don't know what was worse for a man in the forties, to be black ot to be called Doris.

Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at November 10, 2023 11:32 AM (KI5yi)

73 Conservatives don't become museum directors or curators. Same with librarians.

When you literally run away from the field of endeavor, and abandon it completely to the other side, the gap will be filled. And in the next phase, you're calling for the earth to be salted.
We didn't 'lose a battle.' We gave it away. We could not face the struggle.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 10, 2023 11:32 AM (4PZHB)

74 The Army Museum in Paris is great. I expected a lot of wokeness and over-the-top, pro-French propaganda. But it's a really well done museum that's remarkably free of politics. It just presents the events as they took place. Also has lot of artifacts and items and weapons and clothing, etc.

Well worth the time and money. Even my mom, who isn't a war buff or even particularly interested in military history, thought it was great.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 10, 2023 11:32 AM (iFTx/)

75 For academia yeah, it's closed.

But anyone can become a teacher

How do you become a teacher? It involves academia in most places. Talked to anyone who's been through that curriculum lately?

Posted by: That card is maxed out. Try another. at November 10, 2023 11:33 AM (KFhLj)

76 That's a very...particular intellectual viewpoint you hold. You must have a lot of spare brain space for other pursuits.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 10, 2023 11:19 AM (4PZHB)

In case you haven't noticed, ALL of history is a dying pursuit. It's not unusual for the present generations to forget the past, and with the current control over "intellectual pursuits" being in the hands of the left, they're killing it even more than would typically occur.

It's not an insult to point out the obvious: There's a concerted effort by the left to destroy the past, to cause people to forget, to distort and corrupt it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2023 11:33 AM (QBaJw)

77 >>It may be because they don't' wan to be the lone sane person in an ocean of crazy.

Crushing the hopes and dreams of little people is expensive, and teaching does not pay well.

Posted by: ZOD at November 10, 2023 11:33 AM (5HQE5)

78 How many times a day do you not think about Rome?

Thinking about baseball >> thinking about England >> thinking about Rome

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 10, 2023 11:34 AM (ufFY8)

79 A ZOD SIGHTING!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)

80
Thinking about baseball >> thinking about England >> thinking about Rome
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 10, 2023 11:34 AM

Boobs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

81 we are royally fucked

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 10, 2023 11:35 AM (PQ4m2)

82 Thinking about baseball >> thinking about England >> thinking about Rome

thinking about boobs >> thinking about anything else

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:36 AM (JrojV)

83
One thing that pissed me off about Ken Burns' generally excellent The Civil War was some black chick historian opining that the Civil War wasn't over because discrimination continued.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:12 AM (FVME7)

Well, that and his stupid Appalachian white-trash bowl haircut.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 10, 2023 11:36 AM (n+4am)

84 we are royally fucked
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 10, 2023 11:35 AM (PQ4m2)

Piker.

Posted by: England Under King Charles the Fag at November 10, 2023 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)

85 Java Joke:

I tried starting the day off without coffee once.

My court date is pending.

Posted by: Ciampino - about that coffee mug ... at November 10, 2023 11:37 AM (qfLjt)

86 Becoming a teacher first makes you go through Cultural Marxism Seminaries for years to wear you down in any conservative thoughts

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2023 11:37 AM (fwDg9)

87 If 1 in five Republicans supported bans on abortion even in rape, the media would never stop screaming about that.

But 20% of Democrats support rape as the legal right of Hamas.

That means at least 16,000,000 of the votes for Joe Biden were by people who think it's acceptable to rape someone, so long as they are of a different ideology.

If it were Republican women being raped by Antifa, they would support that.

You think we're getting out of this--if we do--without war?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2023 11:38 AM (TzW+Y)

88 we are royally fucked
Posted by: Nevergiveup

*******

That may well be the epitome of usage of the royal "We".

We are royally fucked and we are not amused.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 10, 2023 11:38 AM (991eG)

89 >Thinking about baseball >> thinking about England >> thinking about Rome

Thinking about da lamentations of da vimmen>>Thinking about mass Imperial Human-Zoo installation of wretched, weeping humanity>>Thinking about onanism.

Posted by: ZOD at November 10, 2023 11:38 AM (5HQE5)

90
You think we're getting out of this--if we do--without war?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 10, 2023 11:38 AM (TzW+Y)

Nope.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

91 My brother is conservative, and a teacher.

But he teaches at a private school, so he didn't have to get an ed degree.

And he is an excellent teacher.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:39 AM (JrojV)

92 I missed the art thread but I'm glad to see in the comments that the painting was appreciated and no real snark on its quality because Caspar David Friedrich is in my top 10 favorite artist list.

Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 11:39 AM (MZsCp)

93 Liberation Pavilion, not Liberty Pavilion.

Posted by: bearski at November 10, 2023 11:39 AM (Bhsk7)

94

You want an educational exhibit?

You should see Shemp Smith naked, riding a unicycle with no seat, chowing down on a quart of man mayonnaise while humming the Internationale... That's an educational exhibit!

Posted by: Don Lemonparty at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (0jXnc)

95 Things I never thought I'd see:
1) the Anne Frank Preschool being forced to change its name because it's offensive to Nazis

-
The name the Reinhard Heydrich Preschool is available.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (FVME7)

96 reading about MIT and Students for Palestine or some crap, Blocked doors and prevented students from entering buildings, Harassing Jewish Students and Israeli students and Teachers and the President of the School is trying to hide a letter that Jewish Students sent

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (dKiJG)

97 Thinking about baseball >> thinking about England >> thinking about Rome
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 10, 2023 11:34 AM (ufFY

Must say I almost never think about Rome. Except I did watch the video recently, of Jim "Don't Call Me Chris" Everett knocking over the table, and manhandling Jim Rome on his teevee show.

That Everett didn't hit him was probably smart, but good golly are there few people in teevee history who deserved a good sock in the mouth more than Jim Rome.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (QBaJw)

98 It's not just about being in a sea of crazy, it's about having to hide and fit in just to not get driven off at this point. I went to a university in the 90s that people casually thought of as conservative (it wasn't). I was outspokenly conservative. An academic advisor and mentor (not a conservative, but a fairminded professor who gave a rat's hindquarters about more than politics), told me that I was under no condition to take electives in the English department, where I would receive poor marks because everyone there was to the left of Comrade Stalin and despised me. That was the 90s It has not gotten better.

Posted by: That card is maxed out. Try another. at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (KFhLj)

99 "But also never forget that Jim Crow was a command-and-control, big-government program administered by ruling-class southern Democrats, with the acquiescence of liberal northern Democrats who partnered with them to attain an electoral majority."
_____

That's arguable, but also disputable. Which is as it should be.

I'm not crazy about the way the right, as well as the left, is increasingly tending toward The Narrative as morality play instead of history. (Straussians always did this.) Most of history, we've been spared that; there was a variety of takes on history. Actually, that's normal; it's really the Brits who have latched on (early) to the One True version. (You will find it in J R Greene, most extremely, but also in Churchill. It's mocked in 1066 and All That.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (brAQZ)

100 The Amish had Lebanon Levi and the Amish Mafia.

Jews need a mafia.

"Kid...Its a shame you just painted that swastika on that roof....."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

101 The Army Museum in Paris is great. I expected a lot of wokeness and over-the-top, pro-French propaganda. But it's a really well done museum that's remarkably free of politics. It just presents the events as they took place. Also has lot of artifacts and items and weapons and clothing, etc.

I went to an exhibition in Rome called "Armi et Uomini", Arms and Man. I expected an overview of since Roman times, but it started with modern Italy in 1864. It was artifacts chronologically, except that there was a gap starting in the late 30s. Then it picked up again in 1943, labelled "La Guerra Antifascista". I asked my Italian girlfriend what that meant and she said the anti-fascist war. The whole bit where they were the fascists was a gap.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 10, 2023 11:41 AM (CnLzB)

102 72 I don't know what was worse for a man in the forties, to be black ot to be called Doris.

Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at November 10, 2023 11:32 AM (KI5yi)
----
I had the exact same thought, though he could have been named Sue.

(Machinegun?)

Posted by: Ciampino - about that coffee mug .... at November 10, 2023 11:41 AM (qfLjt)

103 50
'They are brought up only to hold today's whites collectively responsible for the sins of people long dead. '

The only things I owe them are made of lead.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 10, 2023 11:41 AM (abhjw)

104 A clarification on Israel intercepting a ballistic missile RV outside the atmosphere. This is the first known combat interception, but the US and USSR both intercepted numerous ICBM-class RVs in tests of ballistic missile defense systems from the Cold War to the present day.

Indeed, even the original Nike-Zeus anti-ballistic missile system of the early 60s obtained "skin to skin" hits against reentering Atlas missile RVs outside the atmosphere. Intercepting ballistic missiles is not hard. We've had the technology for 60 years. It's just funding and will that have been the issue, and also the technical problem of dealing with forecast massive attacks.

Posted by: Sloucho at November 10, 2023 11:41 AM (+AbyO)

105 Democracy as used in modern media parlance simply means domination by leftwing politicians.

It certainly doesn't mean allowing the populace to decide the important questions of the day like immigration, taxes, or spending...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2023 11:41 AM (XqcwY)

106 It dawned on me that most of my male teachers, grade 6 through 12 were veterans, some with trigger time. Most of the female teachers, K-12 were married to vets.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 10, 2023 11:41 AM (0EOe9)

107 I missed the art thread but I'm glad to see in the comments that the painting was appreciated and no real snark on its quality because Caspar David Friedrich is in my top 10 favorite artist list.
Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 11:39 AM (MZsCp)

I couldn't see the art for all the fog in the way.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

108 I'm not crazy about the way the right, as well as the left, is increasingly tending toward The Narrative as morality play instead of history. (Straussians always did this.)

I believe that's called "Whiggish history."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:42 AM (JrojV)

109 This is what happens when the left is allowed to march through every institution unmolested.

If you want them back you're going to have to fight, physically fight to get them back.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 10, 2023 11:42 AM (Q4IgG)

110 So DHS won't secure the border, but they are busting shoplifters.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

A large portion of the shoplifter squads are foreign nationals. LAPD just caught a Romanian ring last week.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 10, 2023 11:29 AM (IG4Id)

Potentially smuggled/trafficked as well.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 10, 2023 11:42 AM (nC+QA)

111 That Everett didn't hit him was probably smart, but good golly are there few people in teevee history who deserved a good sock in the mouth more than Jim Rome.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (QBaJw)

I forgot about Jim Rome, he's such an ass

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 10, 2023 11:42 AM (dKiJG)

112
If you want them back you're going to have to fight, physically fight to get them back.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 10, 2023 11:42 AM (Q4IgG)

To win a war, you must completely and utterly destroy the enemy.

We are at war. There is only one outcome.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:43 AM (Zz0t1)

113 Did they drag out the false trope about African Americans in the Vietnam war?

Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 11:43 AM (MZsCp)

114 Happy birthday Martin Luther! 11-10-1483

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:43 AM (X98Jy)

115 >>100 The Amish had Lebanon Levi

And his "muscle"--illiterate, bearded paste-eaters.

Posted by: ZOD at November 10, 2023 11:43 AM (5HQE5)

116 Some inspiring words from the Vice President.

https://tinyurl.com/2s38m8yc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:44 AM (FVME7)

117 That Everett didn't hit him was probably smart, but good golly are there few people in teevee history who deserved a good sock in the mouth more than Jim Rome.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (QBaJw)

Skip Bayless has entered the chat

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2023 11:44 AM (u4bMz)

118 That Everett didn't hit him was probably smart, but good golly are there few people in teevee history who deserved a good sock in the mouth more than Jim Rome.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2023 11:40 AM (QBaJw)

Every loudmouthed sportsf*ck on the airwaves that's never boiled a mouthpiece in their lives but think they're the smartest, toughest f*ck on the planet needs to get socked in the mouth by Mike Tyson.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

119 think I'll have some bacon

aka protecting pigs

Posted by: boot55555 at November 10, 2023 11:44 AM (BBPQE)

120 To win a war, you must completely and utterly destroy the enemy.

The last time America won a serious war: WWII

The last time America utterly destroyed the enemy with any all means possible: WWII

So, your theory fits the available data, very very well.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2023 11:44 AM (XqcwY)

121
And his "muscle"--illiterate, bearded paste-eaters.
Posted by: ZOD at November 10, 2023 11:43 AM (5HQE5)

In a mafia, there's a place for ever skill level.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

122 5th Circuit says "FOAD" to ATF in VanDerStok v. Garland case.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 10, 2023 11:45 AM (W5ArC)

123 I forgot about Jim Rome, he's such an ass
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 10, 2023 11:42 AM (dKiJG)

Is there not a pundit covering any specific area that is not punchable at some point in time?

Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 11:45 AM (MZsCp)

124
The last time America utterly destroyed the enemy with any all means possible: WWII

So, your theory fits the available data, very very well.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2023 11:44 AM (XqcwY)

Truth.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

125 120 The Patton Doctrine. If it moves, it dies. HT to some comedian on the old Imus show.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 10, 2023 11:46 AM (0EOe9)

126 I forgot about Jim Rome, he's such an ass
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 10, 2023 11:42 AM (dKiJG)

I remember that guy. Big mouth for a little putz. He usually kissed the ass of whatever guest he had on then would give them a handy and swallow it all but not for Jim.

Among the smooth brained sportsballers he is considered a learned skolar.

Jim Everett should have knocked his teeth down his throat.

Fuck him.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 10, 2023 11:46 AM (R/m4+)

127
Is there not a pundit covering any specific area that is not punchable at some point in time?
Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 11:45 AM (MZsCp)

*leans in*

*waves*

Posted by: Allahpundit at November 10, 2023 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)

128 > 72 I don't know what was worse for a man in the forties, to be black ot to be called Doris.
Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at November 10, 2023 11:32 AM (KI5yi)

Wait: the "girl named Doris" was a man?

I got my shit cut up over a tranny?

Well, that's embarrassing.

Posted by: Bad , Bad Leroy Brown at November 10, 2023 11:46 AM (W5ArC)

129 This is what happens when the left is allowed to march through every institution unmolested.

-
We thought truth, morality, and good will would see us through. Boy, were we stupid!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:47 AM (FVME7)

130 101
'The whole bit where they were the fascists was a gap.'

They have a day off holiday for VE Day in Italy. France too.

I think the only countries that don't get the day of is us and Germany.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 10, 2023 11:47 AM (abhjw)

131
Jim Everett should have knocked his teeth down his throat.

Fuck him.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 10, 2023 11:46 AM (R/m4+)

Rhome should be paying Everett a portion of his salary to this date simply because he wouldn't have a career if it weren't for that moment when Everett lunged at him for being an obnoxious prick.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

132 Jews need a mafia.

"Kid...Its a shame you just painted that swastika on that roof....."
Posted by: Sponge

*Meyer Lansky, Harry Horowitz, Arnold Rothstein & Herman Rosenthal have entered the chat.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:48 AM (X98Jy)

133 This is what happens when the left is allowed to march through every institution unmolested.

The left made it very easy for non-leftists to just make...small compromises. Always turning the ratchet left.

Well, Soviet America is what 60 or so years of that looks like

Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2023 11:48 AM (XqcwY)

134 > The last time America utterly destroyed the enemy with any all means possible: WWII

Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2023 11:44 AM (XqcwY)

That was also back when we had a Department of War and a Department of the Navy rather than a "Department of Defense".

You don't win wars by defense. The very best defense can do is make you not lose.

Posted by: Bad , Bad Leroy Brown at November 10, 2023 11:48 AM (W5ArC)

135 >>that's never boiled a mouthpiece

This..."mouthpiece" you speak of. I do not know what it is.

Posted by: Flyers left wing Dave Schultz at November 10, 2023 11:49 AM (5HQE5)

136
*Meyer Lansky, Harry Horowitz, Arnold Rothstein & Herman Rosenthal have entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:48 AM (X98Jy)

The f*ckin' things you learn here........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

137 Jews need a mafia.

"Kid...Its a shame you just painted that swastika on that roof....."
Posted by: Sponge

*Meyer Lansky, Harry Horowitz, Arnold Rothstein & Herman Rosenthal have entered the chat.

I recall reading about how the Jewish mob took care of a pro-Nazi rally in NYC in the 30s. Gave it to them good.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:49 AM (JrojV)

138 106 It dawned on me that most of my male teachers, grade 6 through 12 were veterans, some with trigger time. Most of the female teachers, K-12 were married to vets.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 10, 2023 11:41 AM (0EOe9)

Same with all my Coach's for Baseball and Soccer. My one Coach was a vet that walked with a limp from Vietnam.

Now it's considered bullying if you yell at practice and have them Pick up cones or other practice items that is now considered Hazing. I am not making this up and they wonder why people don't want to Coach. I had a Female Parent try to break up a tussle between kids and she was like Friends you need to Stop, Friends Please Stop, I in a very loud voice KNOCK IT OFF NOW, and they Froze and the look she gave me.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 10, 2023 11:49 AM (dKiJG)

139 To hell with democracy.
Protect freedom!

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at November 10, 2023 11:50 AM (wu87C)

140 One of the most annoying thing to me about the idiots that call every politician they don't like "just like Hitler" is not just the stupidity of insult itself but the feeling that is the only evil person in history most of could name. They know nothing about Hitler (How many have read, for example, "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich") nor could they name another dictator or tyrant if their life depended on it.

They should use a more diverse cast of villains if they wanted to make a serious point

Posted by: Ripley at November 10, 2023 11:50 AM (JojsZ)

141 Grossed Out Reactions to Weirdo Judge Engoron's Nude Selfie

Posted by: Braenyard at November 10, 2023 11:50 AM (r8xwJ)

142 I'm from New Orleans and family friends with multiple board members, including with one of the original board members. They would not be confused with leftists. Just looked at who the current board is and it's exploded. It used to be almost entirely local but now includes "Governor Pete Wilson" and "Governor Christine Whitman" and Todd Ricketts and someone from "Human Rights Watch" in California... The people I know are still there, but it's very infiltrated with the national 'ruling class'.

Posted by: bearski at November 10, 2023 11:51 AM (Bhsk7)

143 Grossed Out Reactions to Weirdo Judge Engoron's Nude Selfie

I'm certainly seen better c*cks

Posted by: Pete Bootyjizz at November 10, 2023 11:51 AM (XqcwY)

144 Grossed Out Reactions to Weirdo Judge Engoron's Nude Selfie
Posted by: Braenyard at November 10, 2023 11:50 AM (r8xwJ)

Is this a PeopleOfWalMart thing?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)

145 I was let down a bit by the WWII museum when I discovered what trans-uranium and excited particles originally were.

Posted by: New Woke Curator at November 10, 2023 11:52 AM (kX8mD)

146 Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2023 11:44 AM (XqcwY)

I disagree in that I say America has never been militarily beaten in war. Our system of government allows non military personnel decide how we fight and when we quit.

Not the best system at time of war but best overall.

Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 11:52 AM (MZsCp)

147 >>137 Jews need a mafia.

"I want all of you to enjoy your cake so...enjoy"

Posted by: ZOD at November 10, 2023 11:52 AM (5HQE5)

148 I disagree in that I say America has never been militarily beaten in war.

If you lose a war because you were whipped on the battlefield or because the enemy bought off your politicians you lost either way.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 10, 2023 11:53 AM (XqcwY)

149 My point being that racism on an individual level is not generally what the sociologists and grievance mongers would have us believe.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 10, 2023 11:25 AM (991eG)

Concur.
When I got back from Desert Storm, the ol man and I had a good sit down. I asked him how he handled it...knowing with each ship his sub sank, he was putting a lot of men to death., just as with each target I sent, I did the same. I figured he'd just chalk it up to them being Japs and him not. Surprising me, he admitted that there was a lot of killing by both sides, and a lot of good men died on both sides. He never called the Nips or Japs or anything but the enemy, although he would never knowingly buy anything built in Japan.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2023 11:53 AM (uSHSS)

150 I guess we need all the allies we can get. Even the Fettermonster.

About Face: Veterans Against the War
@VetsAboutFace
Jackass @JohnFetterman saw veterans getting arrested and laughed.
We asked to see @SenGillibrand. We were put in cuffs.
We need leaders who listen to veterans demanding a #CeaseFireNow

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:53 AM (FVME7)

151 Adherence to a code, and a commitment to protecting the brother next to you has been a fundamental creed of those who serve for a long time. Nobody gives a shit what your color or religion is. They care about what you're made of and how you adhere to that code. In that respect, the military has been the quintessential "melting pot". It has always been a place well ahead of society in solving social ills, and creating the fundamental mores around which the civilian population rallies. Which is why subversives are seeking to undermine it. They can't stand anything that underpins or reinforces truth, and is gained or displayed by real experiences and factual outcomes. The best leaders I ever had were that way because they possessed a fundamental, innate talent and commitment to do their finest. Period.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 10, 2023 11:53 AM (voHIS)

152 138 It was 68 I think and some kind of "racially charged" kerfuffle happened in the HS cafeteria. There was like a code red, all the coaches went down there and took care of business.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 10, 2023 11:53 AM (0EOe9)

153 I should have added that unfortunately the government is trying its hardest , intentionally or not, to make sure we militarily lose the next conflict. That is unacceptable.

Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 11:54 AM (MZsCp)

154
OMG the Israelis are shooting JOURNALISTS in Gaza!

Posted by: Auspex at November 10, 2023 11:55 AM (j4U/Z)

155 Cee the Bull Shit!

CBS News
@CBSNews
In the month since Hamas' attack on Israel sparked war in the Gaza Strip and worldwide protests, there has been an "unprecedented surge" in incidents of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias reported across the United States, according to a new report.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:55 AM (FVME7)

156 >>153 I should have added that unfortunately the government is trying its hardest , intentionally or not

Gotta toughen up Generation Quim somehow.

Posted by: ZOD at November 10, 2023 11:55 AM (5HQE5)

157 Bandersnatch I wouldn't expect anything else from a Japanese military museum

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2023 11:55 AM (fwDg9)

158 Adherence to a code, and a commitment to protecting the brother next to you has been a fundamental creed of those who serve for a long time. Nobody gives a shit what your color or religion is. They care about what you're made of and how you adhere to that code. In that respect, the military has been the quintessential "melting pot". It has always been a place well ahead of society in solving social ills, and creating the fundamental mores around which the civilian population rallies. Which is why subversives are seeking to undermine it. They can't stand anything that underpins or reinforces truth, and is gained or displayed by real experiences and factual outcomes. The best leaders I ever had were that way because they possessed a fundamental, innate talent and commitment to do their finest. Period.
Posted by: Marcus T

Nothing sharpens and focuses the mind like staring at death.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:55 AM (X98Jy)

159 132 Jews need a mafia.

"Kid...Its a shame you just painted that swastika on that roof....."
Posted by: Sponge

*Meyer Lansky, Harry Horowitz, Arnold Rothstein & Herman Rosenthal have entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:48 AM (X98Jy)
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No Bugsy?

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 10, 2023 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

160 Next to "the parties switched sides", I think conditioning and convincing people that not paying attention to the blessing that is stereotyping is maybe the most incredible and effective self-destruction method I've ever seen.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -The Clear Minded Nashville Tranny Shooter was not Deranged at November 10, 2023 11:56 AM (jaQXh)

161 >>154 OMG the Israelis are shooting JOURNALISTS in Gaza! Posted by: Auspex at November 10, 2023 11:55 AM (j4U/Z)

Weak sauce. If they were serious, they'd hand the journalists bats and threaten them with torture if they didn't beat each other to death.

Posted by: ZOD at November 10, 2023 11:56 AM (5HQE5)

162 CBS News
@CBSNews
In the month since Hamas' attack on Israel sparked war in the Gaza Strip and worldwide protests, there has been an "unprecedented surge" in incidents of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias reported across the United States, according to a new report.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Names & dates with the accompanying police reports.

No police reports? GFY.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:56 AM (X98Jy)

163 No Bugsy?
Posted by: Elric Blade

Simply forgot. There were a bunch to list. They were well represented.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:57 AM (X98Jy)

164 In the month since Hamas' attack on Israel sparked war in the Gaza Strip and worldwide protests, there has been an "unprecedented surge" in incidents of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias reported across the United States, according to a new report.

And the problem with this would be...?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:58 AM (JrojV)

165 Kmart forced to pull "Merry Ham-Mas" bag from shelves because, yeah, it kinda looks like it says "Merry Hamas"

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Marketing geniuses.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:58 AM (FVME7)

166 There's a French military museum/academy that has plaques dating back to the 1890s, showing names of those lost in WW1 for each class. There's a small, very sad one for the class of 1914 stating simply "All Lost".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 10, 2023 11:58 AM (0EOe9)

167 OMG the Israelis are shooting JOURNALISTS in Gaza!

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Tell me more!
Tell me more!
Did he put up a fight?

Posted by: Greased at November 10, 2023 11:58 AM (hCzfy)

168 165 What the hell is "Ham-Mas?"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 11:59 AM (JrojV)

169 CBS News
@CBSNews
In the month since Hamas' attack on Israel sparked war in the Gaza Strip and worldwide protests, there has been an "unprecedented surge" in incidents of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias reported across the United States, according to a new report.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

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"This message brought to you by ChatGPT and approved by the Ministry of Truth."

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 10, 2023 11:59 AM (iW/cS)

170 > 165 What the hell is "Ham-Mas?"

"More ham" in Tex-Mex Spanglish?

I approve that message.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 10, 2023 12:00 PM (W5ArC)

171 @CBSNews
In the month since Hamas' attack on Israel sparked war in the Gaza Strip and worldwide protests, there has been an "unprecedented surge" in incidents of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias reported across the United States, according to a new report.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Names & dates with the accompanying police reports.

No police reports? GFY.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:56 AM (X98Jy)
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Maybe an upsurge in reporting, but no coverage of any real incidents.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2023 12:00 PM (uSHSS)

172
Welp, nothing says WWII like a box of pastry tipped over on its side.

Cuz that's what this museum looks like.

My understanding is that this museum is centered around-

The Battle of Guadacannoli.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 10, 2023 12:00 PM (QzZeQ)

173 What the hell is "Ham-Mas?"
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Probably a Christmas ham.
Just picked up a double honey glazed spiral sclicex ham from Sam's for Thanksgiving.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 12:00 PM (X98Jy)

174 A couple of years ago we visited the WWII Pacific theater museum in Fredericksburg. I was in that place three days straight. I listened to the recordings of the soldiers and soaked in every word. I have been looking forward to going to the one in New Orleans and mentioned it to DanMa'am when I read the last section was finished a few days ago.

About 10 years ago I was honored to give a eulogy for a man that spent his entire Army service working to produce the B-29. About the only service that aircraft saw in WWII was delivering the atomic bombs on Japan. His regret was not ever leaving the states to see action in theater.

I heard a similar sentiment from my dad the year he died. We were in line at a Home Depot buying material for a house we were building for my parents in Greenville, Tx and he uttered "I don't know why I get this veterans discount, I never did anything in the war."

He was 17 when he joined and discharged as an Ensign in the Navy when the war ended. "Dang Dad, you showed up."

Posted by: DanMan at November 10, 2023 12:00 PM (8uzBS)

175 @CBSNews
In the month since Hamas' attack on Israel sparked war in the Gaza Strip and worldwide protests, there has been an "unprecedented surge" in incidents of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias reported across the United States, according to a new report.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

This, in fact, has NOT happened, ANYWHERE, in the United States.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 12:00 PM (Zz0t1)

176 OMG the Israelis are shooting JOURNALISTS in Gaza!

Please Oh Please let there be film at 11.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2023 12:01 PM (uSHSS)

177 About Face: Veterans Against the War
@VetsAboutFace
Jackass @JohnFetterman saw veterans getting arrested and laughed.
We asked to see @SenGillibrand. We were put in cuffs.
We need leaders who listen to veterans demanding a #CeaseFireNow
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 11:53 AM (FVME7)

One of those things you know, because you know: Not all Veterans are created equal. All the douchebags and idiots you served with, they're also Veterans.

And not just the REMFs. Lots of combat trained people are complete assholes and dirtbags.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2023 12:02 PM (QBaJw)

178 If you want to watch something Interesting, From the 80's or 90's Peter Jennings. Mike Wallace discuss the ethics of if a reporter in embedded with X Country and has an ambush setup to kill American Soldiers should you as an American Reporter try to warn them

https://tinyurl.com/4pa64zxf

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 10, 2023 12:02 PM (dKiJG)

179 THE BOSS HAS A NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2023 12:03 PM (fwDg9)

180
This, in fact, has NOT happened, ANYWHERE, in the United States.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 12:00 PM (Zz0t1)

Anyone who says "Israel has the right to defend itself" has committed an act of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 10, 2023 12:03 PM (i9ffA)

181 > No Bugsy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 10, 2023 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

Dutch Schultz, too.

Hard as it may be to believe, they used to let Jews and Irish be mobsters.

Sort of like the way that they used to let Puerto Ricans have street gangs, back in the "West Side Story" era.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 10, 2023 12:03 PM (W5ArC)

182 They stopped making war correspondents after Bernard Fall.

Posted by: ZOD at November 10, 2023 12:03 PM (5HQE5)

183 There's a French military museum/academy that has plaques dating back to the 1890s, showing names of those lost in WW1 for each class. There's a small, very sad one for the class of 1914 stating simply "All Lost".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 10, 2023 11:58 AM (0EOe9)

For my money WWI is the most tragic conflict ever… why was it fought?? Never have seen a clear answer other than inter-locking treaties and a rush to mobilize ‘cause we gotta mobilize first that’s what our war planning says. And of course it planted the seeds of WW2 made it inevitable. Just senseless

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 10, 2023 12:03 PM (u4bMz)

184 175 @CBSNews
In the month since Hamas' attack on Israel sparked war in the Gaza Strip and worldwide protests, there has been an "unprecedented surge" in incidents of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias reported across the United States, according to a new report.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Complete bullshit. But even if it's true, so fucking what? These putrescent animals need to get their house in order. We'd be stupid not to hold bias against the whole sorry lot of them. They certainly are biased against us.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 10, 2023 12:04 PM (iFTx/)

185 "Can’t we have one museum that is not obsessed about vilifying this country?"

History is written by the victors, and that's not us. The country in which we live isn't ours anymore; it was subverted and conquered as surely as if it had been defeated on the battlefield. Now an occupying regime rules over us, and they're doing what such regimes always do. Hanging their vile flags everywhere. Marching their troops through the streets. Broadcasting propaganda 24/7. Re-educating our children. Tearing down our monuments. Vilifying our heroes and rewriting our history. And ultimately, ethnically cleansing our people.

Don't like it? Gee, I guess Whites should have been more afraid of losing their nations than of being called "racist." CoNsErVaTiVeS didn't even show up to fight, and so this is what we get.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at November 10, 2023 12:04 PM (0Uf+z)

186 "In the month since Hamas' attack on Israel sparked war in the Gaza Strip and worldwide protests, there has been an "unprecedented surge" in incidents of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias reported across the United States, according to a new report. "

Bias, not violence. That could be an op-ed or somebody being rude. Or stopping somebody from tearing down hostage photos. I'd be willing to bet that what all these mysterious incidents were.

Posted by: Ripley at November 10, 2023 12:04 PM (JojsZ)

187 Lots of combat trained people are complete assholes and dirtbags.

I think historically, that was pretty common in militaries. Those people can be good killing machines.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 12:04 PM (JrojV)

188 These Kmart stores in Australia probably had zero idea that this hilarious "Merry Ham-Mas" bag — an unfortunately punny bag meant for storing ham in the fridge — would get them in trouble. But one look at the bag and you'll shortly realize why they're pulling it from the shelves.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 10, 2023 12:05 PM (FVME7)

189 @CBSNews
In the month since Hamas' attack on Israel sparked war in the Gaza Strip and worldwide protests, there has been an "unprecedented surge" in incidents of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bias reported across the United States, according to a new report.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

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This, in fact, has NOT happened, ANYWHERE, in the United States.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 10, 2023 12:00 PM (Zz0t1)

Remember, your free speech is violence. Their violence is free speech.

Every time Ben Shapiro says Hamas is bad is an example of violence against Muslims.

The horror.... the HORROR!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 10, 2023 12:05 PM (QBaJw)

190 181 > No Bugsy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 10, 2023 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

Dutch Schultz, too.

Hard as it may be to believe, they used to let Jews and Irish be mobsters.

Sort of like the way that they used to let Puerto Ricans have street gangs, back in the "West Side Story" era.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 10, 2023 12:03 PM (W5ArC)
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Jewish and Italian mobs worked together for decades. The National Crime Syndicate was mostly Jews and Italians.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 10, 2023 12:05 PM (iFTx/)

191 *Meyer Lansky, Harry Horowitz, Arnold Rothstein & Herman Rosenthal have entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:48 AM (X98Jy)

The f*ckin' things you learn here........
Posted by: Sponge

Growing up in St. Louis, I've always been intrigued by the Mafia. St. Louis had their own. I grew up playing with a neighborhood kid. Turns out he was the son of a high up. Plus we had The Hill. Home of the Italian mafia.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 12:06 PM (X98Jy)

192 I commented last night that I was watching a documentary on the USS Samuel B. Roberts, which included some interviews with survivors.

It's almost trite to say, but I'm not sure that we make men like that anymore.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 10, 2023 12:06 PM (XeU6L)

193 Well there was this one Palestinian who got his megaphone damaged by a protester so I guess that counts as an anti-Muslim incident.

Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 12:07 PM (MZsCp)

194 190 One of my favorite writers, even though a little lib, was Mike Royko. He described Greek hoods as the most underrated thieves in the world.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 10, 2023 12:08 PM (0EOe9)

195 191 *Meyer Lansky, Harry Horowitz, Arnold Rothstein & Herman Rosenthal have entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 11:48 AM (X98Jy)

The f*ckin' things you learn here........
Posted by: Sponge

Growing up in St. Louis, I've always been intrigued by the Mafia. St. Louis had their own. I grew up playing with a neighborhood kid. Turns out he was the son of a high up. Plus we had The Hill. Home of the Italian mafia.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2023 12:06 PM (X98Jy)
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When I was in fancy prep school, there was an Italian kid there. One day, he literally disappeared. This was before internet, etc. It turns out he was the grandson of a major mafia kingpin who had just been taken down in a huge bust. The rest of the family ran off to Florida.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 10, 2023 12:08 PM (iFTx/)

196 Rosenthal was the father of Organized crime.

Was he Jewish?

Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 12:08 PM (MZsCp)

197 15 Seems like it's everywhere.

We spent two months touring all the Smithsonian sites earlier this year.

You can not escape the encrouchement of this woke crap in every aspect of our nations history, and our museums.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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Modern education is to blame for the obsession with presentivism. That is that the present is the best of all possible worlds and people before the current generation are both mentally and morally deficient.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2023 12:09 PM (gpYgq)

198 71
But anyone can become a teacher. There's a massive shortage of teachers everywhere, they'll hire any warm body.

Posted by: Montec at November 10, 2023 11:30 AM (bWsRe)
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There's still a requirement for a teaching diploma right?

Posted by: Ciampino - about that teaching stuff ... at November 10, 2023 12:09 PM (qfLjt)

199 To my cousin who never made it home from Vietnam, because some general wanted to command an airborne drop so he could pin on a jump badge (not that the general actually had to jump). My cousin died hanging from a tree in the jungle where his chute got tangled.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 10, 2023 12:09 PM (CecP5)

200 Happy Marine Corps Birthday! Think I'm gonna have a turkey sammich and take a nap. Ooorah!

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 10, 2023 12:11 PM (0EOe9)

201 I think historically, that was pretty common in militaries. Those people can be good killing machines.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 10, 2023 12:04 PM (JrojV)

They can also be undisciplined and ultimately cowards when the going gets tough.

Posted by: Drive by at November 10, 2023 12:11 PM (MZsCp)

202 Next to "the parties switched sides", I think conditioning and convincing people that not paying attention to the blessing that is stereotyping is maybe the most incredible and effective self-destruction method I've ever seen.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -The Clear Minded Nashville Tranny Shooter was not Deranged at November 10, 2023 11:56 AM (jaQXh)

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Another stunning deception is that a relatively small group of psychopathic freaks who've managed to parasitically take control of and cancerously destroy virtually every institution having convinced most of us -- in the vast majority of decent and morally conservative individuals throughout The West in general and in America in particular -- that we are the underwhelming minority.

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 10, 2023 12:12 PM (QjoXC)

203 Looking back to 2016:

U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch called a spike in anti-Muslim hate crimes a “stain on our nation’s very soul” in a speech Monday at a Virginia mosque.
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Lynch, pointing to a “disturbing” 67 percent increase in anti-Muslim hate crimes from 2014 to 2015, called the rise a “sobering indication of how much more work remains to be done.”
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Etc., ad nauseam

I'd like to know about that '67 percent increase'. From what to what? 5 to 8? When you start at zero, 67% doesn't even move the needle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 10, 2023 12:16 PM (XeU6L)

204 How many times a day do you not think about Rome?

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LOL. I was born there ......! Yes, South of the Rubicon.

Posted by: Ciampino - about that teaching stuff .... at November 10, 2023 12:16 PM (qfLjt)

205 Modern education is to blame for the obsession with presentivism. That is that the present is the best of all possible worlds and people before the current generation are both mentally and morally deficient.

Posted by: whig at November 10, 2023 12:09 PM (gpYgq)

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And ironically, Presentism is leading The West back to Primitivism.

And that's not just Historicism!

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 10, 2023 12:20 PM (5DzT8)

206 My dad was born in 1924 in Philly & grew up in the area known as The Meadows where both white & black resided and "farmed" small plots for decades. He never finished high school & went to work for Westinghouse. At 17, his father sign his enlistment papers. (My grandmother & his brother had passed. He was the only surviving son & had four sisters.)
Similarly to Muldoon's father, my dad was deployed to North Africa and later to Italy. He served almost 4 years in combat (army) in Africa and Italy, was hospitalized twice for trench foot, never talked to us about "war," had nightmares even until his death, lost one foot & part of the other from service injury & diabetes but was unable to get disability.
Race was never a negative to our dad, or uncles & aunts all serving. (Race was never an issue in our lives unless it was injected through politics, largely by local wealthy.) Dad told us about the services performed by black soldiers with his battalion (?) & by Code Talkers; fighting with soldiers from India, England & various U.S. 'white' groups who were categorized as minorities at that time.

It is wrong for 50s & 60s 'social issues to be any part of our WWII museums.

Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at November 10, 2023 12:34 PM (GshMh)

207
It is wrong for 50s & 60s 'social issues to be any part of our WWII museums.
Posted by: L
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But very convenient for 'Progressives', for whom history started this morning. Actual study of history, and its import in the context of human behavior and culture, is to them 'Irrelevant'. I hear that word used by 'Progressives' fairly often.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 10, 2023 12:44 PM (XeU6L)

208 The Nazis' only mistake was being white.

Hamas behaves just like the Nazis, and 20% of Democrats support them.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

The National Socialists of Germany were very popular, nay...Uber Popular at Harvard in the 1930's, as this was seen as the Progressive "wave of the future".

H.L Mencken, in particular, still thought highly of the German National Socialists (aka....Nazis) throughout a good part of the 1940's. FDR was just not Progressive enough to satisfy a lot of people.

More, more more....How do you like it?

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 10, 2023 12:53 PM (tjZg/)

209 OMG the Israelis are shooting JOURNALISTS in Gaza!

Please Oh Please let there be film at 11.
Posted by: Diogene

Sorry, no film at 11 tonight. The Journalists have all been shot.

And they're looting the Value Mart!!!

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at November 10, 2023 12:56 PM (tjZg/)

210 The Nazis' only mistake was being white.

Hamas behaves just like the Nazis, and 20% of Democrats support them.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 10, 2023 11:04 AM (YAtuc)

100 percent of Democrats support Hamas. 20 percent just admit it.

Their money and policies have lifted Hamas into a dangerous political organization for a decade.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 10, 2023 01:00 PM (eoQWY)

211 208 The Nazis' only mistake was being white.

Hamas behaves just like the Nazis, and 20% of Democrats support them.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

The National Socialists of Germany were very popular, nay...Uber Popular at Harvard in the 1930's, as this was seen as the Progressive "wave of the future".

Saw an internet video of some grand mufti character who went to Germany to visit Hitner in early wartime and volunteer to build them a concentration camp as soon as the Germans arrived to kick the Jewish ass for them.

How anyone sides with these people is beyond comprehension.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 10, 2023 01:07 PM (eggM4)

212 For academia yeah, it's closed.

But anyone can become a teacher

How do you become a teacher? It involves academia in most places. Talked to anyone who's been through that curriculum lately?
Posted by: That card is maxed out. Try another. at November 10, 2023 11:33 AM (KFhLj)

To get a teaching credential, you need a degree. Most go through the Education degree, which has been captured. If you conceal yourself and get through that, well, they you have to fight your school's administration and the other teachers who are woke.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 10, 2023 01:08 PM (eoQWY)

213 Saw an internet video of some grand mufti character who went to Germany to visit Hitner in early wartime and volunteer to build them a concentration camp as soon as the Germans arrived to kick the Jewish ass for them.

How anyone sides with these people is beyond comprehension.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 10, 2023 01:07 PM (eggM4)

"Progressives" always side with the newest Thug and there's always a cheering section for a dictator. My Ohio subdivision has a street named for Fidel Castro, in the 1960s. The joke was they didn't know he was a Commie and never got around to fixing it, but I wonder.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 10, 2023 01:11 PM (eoQWY)

214 Seen on the net, so it must be true, that Fedral Government was as diverse as the local population until some guy named "Wilson" decided segregation was in order. Starting with the Dept of War.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 10, 2023 01:12 PM (cOq4q)

215 Lynch, pointing to a “disturbing” 67 percent increase in anti-Muslim hate crimes from 2014 to 2015, called the rise a “sobering indication of how much more work remains to be done.”
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Etc., ad nauseam

I'd like to know about that '67 percent increase'. From what to what? 5 to 8? When you start at zero, 67% doesn't even move the needle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 10, 2023 12:16 PM (XeU6L)

What the hell does a rise in Anti Muslim stuff in 2015, even if true, have to do with the situation today?

That's 8 years ago!!

Posted by: Oldcat at November 10, 2023 01:13 PM (eoQWY)

216 Segregation of the miltary has ripple effects to this day. Fields that blacks were confined to are still over represented by blacks. Cooks, transportation, etc.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 10, 2023 01:14 PM (cOq4q)

217 Such a great post, Buck.

Posted by: KT at November 10, 2023 01:33 PM (rrtZS)

218 Amen. My father-in-law's idea of "protecting democracy" after his return from island hoping in the Pacific was hunting deer with his government issued M1903 Springfield.

Posted by: KungPow at November 10, 2023 02:30 PM (u5v20)

219 Thank you, KT.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at November 10, 2023 03:49 PM (Hl+Uq)

220 O went to DC and was appalled years ago with all the racist. shit in every single venue, including Arlington NationL
Cemetery

I understand it’s 10 times worse now

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 10, 2023 05:49 PM (XRwsB)

221 Ken burns has gone totally woke

Unwatchable , all his documentary’s

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 10, 2023 05:53 PM (XRwsB)

222 The second and third of Robert Conquest's 3 Laws apply here:

2. Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.
3. The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.

Posted by: Peter B at November 10, 2023 05:58 PM (KGz4E)

223 A very real problem of overloading a museum with non-central topics is museum fatigue for the visitors. I have left museums because the curators were shoe-horning in their favorite topics of the day. Those could go nicely into a temporary exhibit gallery.

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