Biden To Demand "Humanitarian" Ceasefires as Israel Encircles Gaza City

Read Ed Morrissey's article for details of the IDF's invasion of Gaza, and its encirclement of Hamas's main stronghold, Gaza City.

Just as the IDF is ready to begin rooting Hamas out of their terrorist snakepits, Biden declares that it's time for "humanitarian pauses" to permit Hamas terrorists to escape.

I mean, to "get hostages out" and bring in food for the poor Hamas-supporting Palestinians.

Remember what we all said about Biden pretending to take Israel's side in public so that he could restrain them privately? They even leaked to Axios that that was exactly what they were doing, to reassure their pro-terrorist left that they weren't really trying to protect those awful New York Money Men from genocide.

Well, now Biden has even given up on supporting Israel publicly (though insincerely).

Now he just wants to protect those peace-lovin' Palestinians.

The IDF is deep in the unholy country of the enemy, and just had to fight off surprise attack from terrorists coming out of their tunnels.

In other words, the IDF finds itself in a precarious position thanks to its rapid success [that is, its rapid movement across Gaza[, one that isn't sustainable in stasis. Which is why, of course, that Joe Biden picked this moment in time to tell Israel to stop its operations so it can negotiate with the terrorist army that insists it will settle for nothing less than Israel's complete annihilation. Take it away, NYT:

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will urge the Israeli government to agree to a series of brief cessations of military operations in Gaza to allow for hostages to be released safely and for humanitarian aid to be distributed, White House officials said on Thursday.
The message comes as President Biden revealed on Wednesday that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel had previously agreed to halt shelling briefly on Oct. 20 to allow for the release of two Americans, Judith Raanan, 59, and her daughter, Natalie Raanan, 17.
Mr. Blinken will push for more of what American officials call "humanitarian pauses" in the war when he arrives in Israel on Friday for another round of diplomacy amid fierce fighting between Israeli forces and Hamas, the group that controls Gaza.

Hamas's -- and all Muslim terrorists' -- strategy has always been to launch cowardly terrorist sneak-attacks and then call in the defense. They have no actual defense -- except the big one: leftwing media and leftwing governments, who will demand that Israel make no reprisals against the people slaughtering them.

Leftwing media and leftwing governments are Hamas' air forces.

Now, Hamas's promise to stage millions -- yes, millions -- of 10/7 slaughters until Israel has been "annihilated" presents some problems for Hamas's media and governmental air forces.

Hamas Official Ghazi Hamad: We Will Repeat the October 7 Attack Time and Again Until Israel Is Annihilated.

Stay Up to date with Salem News Channel & https://t.co/pz06TOfmIV pic.twitter.com/NhPTGEnlZM
— Salem News Channel (@WatchSalemNews) November 1, 2023

It is difficult to claim that you want a ceasefire just to give the parties a chance to work things out by treaty when one side has declared it will continue launching terrorist butchery and rape operations until the end of time or the end of the Jewish people, whichever comes first.

So how did the left react to Hamas's declaration that everything their western supporters were saying about ceasefires and peaceful negotiations were terrorist propaganda and murderous lies?

Oh, the normal way -- they just refused to report it. They can't have the public knowing that Hamas has already announced that it doesn't matter what Israel does, they will proceed with genocidal terrorist attacks until every Jew is dead.

So they just straight-up refused to report this.

One weird exception-- NBC mentioned it briefly but did not comment on what this means for the "two state solution" and "peace process."

Foreign news outlets certainly have covered it. Newspapers from the UK, Canada, India, and others (especially Israel, of course) have given Hamad's declaration major coverage. So why have American media refrained from reporting on it? It's not just that they're pushing it to page A32, but that they aren't reporting on it at all, even though it directly and unequivocally provides the necessary context to this war. It would be akin to major newspapers reporting that Britain and France declared war on Germany in September 1939 without reporting the invasion of Poland or Hitler's demand for Lebensraum.
The only conclusion one can reach for this exclusion is that American media have taken the side of Hamas in this fight. They don't want to inform Americans about the real stakes of this war, and that it's not about Gaza, the West Bank, or East Jerusalem, or even the rogue settlements. They know that it's about the annihilation of Israel and the Jews -- but they don't want you to know it.
They have chosen sides, and it's the side of the terrorists.

Democrat Senator Dick Durbin calls for a "ceasefire" in Israel — the day after a spokesman for Hamas said they will commit terrorist attacks "again and again" until Israel is annihilated pic.twitter.com/Ago2SyuBcq
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) November 2, 2023

He looks healthy. I sure hope he doesn't catch a touch of covid.

Correction to Previous Post: In the previous post, I had written -- without checking the context:

Currently trending on Twitter: the Islamic/Nazi dream.

In fact, that hashtag was created to show Palestinians living in squalid conditions... in Arab countries. In other words, Here's how Palestinians are faring in Syria, and there are No Jews to claim are responsible for their misery and oppression.

I regret the error. It was stupid to post that without checking.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:30 PM

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1 First

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 02, 2023 01:30 PM (zjgNU)

2 1st?

Posted by: davidt at November 02, 2023 01:30 PM (SYTee)

3 to not call for a ceasefire

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 02, 2023 01:30 PM (zjgNU)

4 2nd?

Posted by: davidt at November 02, 2023 01:31 PM (SYTee)

5
These will be mostly peaceful mass executions by Hamas.

Posted by: Auspex at November 02, 2023 01:31 PM (j4U/Z)

6 6th?

Posted by: davidt at November 02, 2023 01:31 PM (SYTee)

7 Not as much graft available in peacetime.

Posted by: huerfano at November 02, 2023 01:31 PM (Q4KYm)

8 Ghazi Hamad needs a serious droning.

Posted by: BignJames at November 02, 2023 01:31 PM (AwYPR)

9 Who does Senile Joe think he is to demand anything from Israel?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 02, 2023 01:32 PM (HfNu5)

10 Or else what?

He'll shit his pants?

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 01:32 PM (cTwRF)

11 The amount of bribery from the Islamists must be enormous.

Posted by: davidt at November 02, 2023 01:32 PM (SYTee)

12 As always, f*ck Joe Biden.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 02, 2023 01:32 PM (bhRsz)

13 IN BEFORE COMMENTING!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 02, 2023 01:33 PM (wtvvX)

14 Or else what?

He'll shit his pants?
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 01:32 PM (cTwRF)

Oops, too late. Flarpety-doo!

Posted by: President Asterisk at November 02, 2023 01:33 PM (bhRsz)

15 If I didn't already read the spoilers at the end of the book, I'd be hard pressed to understand the hate for such a long-time oppressed people, especially by people who claim to care for the "oppressed."

But I HAVE read the spoilers, so I already know why.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 02, 2023 01:33 PM (zjgNU)

16 Oh, I see Jihadi Gorbachev is back.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 01:33 PM (JrojV)

17 Make the entire place a crater then ceasefire.

Posted by: nckate at November 02, 2023 01:33 PM (SnxUt)

18 So, what if Bibi and Israel tells Sundowner and Blinken to pound sand? What will the practical consequences be?

If I were the Israelis, I'd smile and apply MAXIMUM EFFORT. And go tell Biden et al. to GFY.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at November 02, 2023 01:34 PM (uY1j2)

19 Egypt and Jordan will not accept any palis. Joe is going to bring them all here.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 02, 2023 01:34 PM (u73oe)

20 Cleanse the land of goatrapers.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 02, 2023 01:35 PM (R4t5M)

21 This is going to be the real test of Netanyahus govm't - do you have the nerve to stand up to the US when they are clearly telling you to do something idiotic and self destructive? I don't know, but that's what I'll be watching. I think the success or failure of this entire war depends on Israel doing that.

The pressure cuts both ways; Biden can't really afford to abandon Israel if they refuse, either.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:35 PM (i9ffA)

22 Yup... Political... Biden's going for votes... Doesn't care a bit about Israel...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 02, 2023 01:35 PM (bs+z0)

23 Good grief, I'd never seen what Durbin looks like before. Weird-looking dude.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 01:35 PM (JrojV)

24 Willowed but relevant . . .

About that Palestinian kid allegedly murdered in Chicago for being Muslim, forgive me if I'm skeptical. The press reporting on the incident is so in the tank on the pro-Hamas narrative that it's impossible to know what really happened.

But I'm skeptical that a 70+ year old landlord, who looks like he's got one foot in the grave, stabbed a kid almost 30 times because of his religion. I think there's much more to this story. For what it's worth, the landlord has pleaded not guilty.

How many murders were there in Chicago last weekend? Funny how this one murder is the toast of the town, while all the others are ignored.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 02, 2023 01:35 PM (iFTx/)

25 Elizabeth Warren and several others prior to Durbin started to call for a ceasefire. They are terrified that they may not be able to fortify Michigan and even Minnesota enough to claim victory with a straight face if the Muslims sit it out.

I'm looking for the first Republican senator to help his or her friends across the aisle. My money is one of those badmouthing Tuberville last night or Collins or Murkowski.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 02, 2023 01:35 PM (KSNKu)

26 TIME OUT! WE'RE LOSING!

Posted by: Goat-F*cking Hamas Scum at November 02, 2023 01:35 PM (3Gtis)

27 Egypt sent tanks to keep the Palis out of Egypt.

Posted by: davidt at November 02, 2023 01:35 PM (SYTee)

28 Bounce the rubble

Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at November 02, 2023 01:36 PM (u/nTb)

29 Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com 4h
Israeli officer: Gaza terrorists will be dying in tunnels as IDF collapses them; Hamas made a mistake by hiding in underground zone with no escape routes; hundreds of shafts & tunnels destroyed by engineering corps & Air Force so far. via @WallaNews

Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com 5h
IDF engineering forces launch large-scale operation in Gaza to clear landmines & roadside bombs, detect & destroy tunnels; forces deploy diverse array of robots and explosives to shatter Hamas defenses. via @WallaNews

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023 01:36 PM (krqg6)

30 11 The amount of bribery from the Islamists must be enormous.
Posted by: davidt at November 02, 2023 01:32 PM (SYTee)

I think there's nothing more complicated than Biden's backers getting scared about his poll numbers dropping on the left.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:36 PM (i9ffA)

31 The Left are truly evil. From abortion to chopping off penises and breasts to banning God to supporting terrorists. The ends always justify the means for them.

You can’t negotiate with evil

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 01:36 PM (MNhXM)

32 Has anyone seen or heard from Speaker Clark Kent? I wonder what his take on this might be.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 02, 2023 01:36 PM (l10hq)

33 How many murders were there in Chicago last weekend? Funny how this one murder is the toast of the town, while all the others are ignored.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 02, 2023 01:35 PM (iFTx/)

Death is a tool for the left...nothing more.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 01:36 PM (3Gtis)

34 Leftwing media and leftwing governments are Hamas' air forces.

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... and brownshirts.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 01:37 PM (cTwRF)

35 Mr. Blinken will push for more of what American officials call "humanitarian pauses" in the war when he arrives in Israel on Friday

I'd give Bibi my left nut if he'd refuse clearance to land.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 01:37 PM (XjWYE)

36 Ah, Biden finally confesses to the Kerry Plan.

Fuck these guys. I hope they get ass cancer. The slow kind.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 01:37 PM (myvUL)

37 Who does Senile Joe think he is to demand anything from Israel?
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Their munitions supplier.

Until they find someone more reliable.

Posted by: Methos at November 02, 2023 01:37 PM (Dnobf)

38 Levent Kemal @leventkemaI
Gaza City has just been besieged by the Israeli army's armored units from the south (from east to west along Gaza Street and 10th Street). The Israeli army also entered the Zeitoun district (from south to north almost 1,5 km). Israeli army was 1.2 km away from Al-Rashid Street.

Levent Kemal @leventkemaI
Gaza Authority statement: Younis Tirawi | يونس @ytirawi 23m
Breaking news:
The authorities in Gaza announce that the Israeli military has controlled and cut off all roads leading North Gaza to South Gaza including the coastal road (Rasheed Street).

Levent Kemal @leventkemaI
Yesterday, the Israeli army reached 10th Street until the Sabeeren Mosque (31°29'52"N 34°25'7"E) after the clashes they retreated to the water facility (31°29'14"N 34°25'28"E). Also was reported that they reached to the west of Nour Resort (31°28'47"N 34°25'6"E) on Gaza Street in the south.

These locations were 1.1 km to 1.5 km from Rashid Street on the beach.

It seems that today Israel has taken control of the area up to the coast and has advanced a little in the south of the Zeitoun neighborhood.
https://tinyurl.com/3fn4f9nf
map

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023 01:37 PM (krqg6)

39 Here's my counteroffer:

We will call a cease-fire on Saturday.

As proof of our good intentions, we would like to entertain the people of Gaza City with a live-action production of Dante's Inferno on Friday night. Free admission.

Posted by: Netanyahu at November 02, 2023 01:37 PM (bhRsz)

40 We'll think it over.
OK. No.

Posted by: IDF at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (ydRdU)

41 And when Israel ignores him, Biden is revealed to be an empty suit to the world, and Hamas ends up destroyed, DU will praise Biden for his leadership in this crisis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

42 Bounce the rubble
Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened

Piss & salt. Piss & salt.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (XjWYE)

43 The junta's puppet speaks the junta's message.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (RIvkX)

44 Ceasefire?

Maybe one day.

Posted by: Samson Option at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (myvUL)

45 "How can our response be proportionate yet? We haven't beheaded any babies."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

46 Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will urge the Israeli government to agree to a series of brief cessations of military operations in Gaza to allow for hostages to be released safely and for humanitarian aid to be distributed, White House officials said on Thursday.
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The only rational play is for Israel to refuse. Hamas can have a "cease fire" any time it pleases by surrendering and submitting to military occupation. Short of that, no deal.

Existential war is total war. Total war requires unconditional surrender and unconditional victory. It can be either side, but it must be one of the sides.

We'll see what Israel does.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (ELpxa)

47 30 Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com 4h
Israeli officer: Gaza terrorists will be dying in tunnels as IDF collapses them; Hamas made a mistake by hiding in underground zone with no escape routes; hundreds of shafts & tunnels destroyed by engineering corps & Air Force so far. via @WallaNews

I have been thinking about that; they are great ways to hide, but also deathtraps for anyone in them once they are identified.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:39 PM (i9ffA)

48 I hear that watching the sun set over vast stretches of molten glass can be peaceful.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 02, 2023 01:39 PM (yipD3)

49 Hamas Official Ghazi Hamad: We Will Repeat the October 7 Attack Time and Again Until Israel Is Annihilated.

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And the MDM-MSM labels him a "moderate" official.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 01:39 PM (cTwRF)

50 Levent Kemal @leventkemaI
Yesterday, the Israeli army reached 10th Street until the Sabeeren Mosque (31°29'52"N 34°25'7"E) after the clashes they retreated to the water facility (31°29'14"N 34°25'28"E). Also was reported that they reached to the west of Nour Resort (31°28'47"N 34°25'6"E) on Gaza Street in the south.

Why is the mosque still standing?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 01:39 PM (XjWYE)

51 Hey Bibi, don't trust that motherfucker, we can't and he's supposed to be our "president".

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2023 01:39 PM (v0R5T)

52 Oh, the normal way -- they just refused to report it. They can't have the public knowing that Hamas has already announced that it doesn't matter what Israel does, they will proceed with genocidal terrorist attacks until every Jew is dead.

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DU did a post on it, actually, as reported in these comments.

They said he was just one guy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

53 Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com 4h
Israeli officer: Gaza terrorists will be dying in tunnels as IDF collapses them; Hamas made a mistake by hiding in underground zone with no escape routes; hundreds of shafts & tunnels destroyed by engineering corps & Air Force so far. via @WallaNews

Inshallah.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 02, 2023 01:39 PM (bhRsz)

54 47 Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will urge the Israeli government to agree to a series of brief cessations of military operations in Gaza to allow for hostages to be released safely and for humanitarian aid to be distributed, White House officials said on Thursday

Shame if something were to happen to him while there...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 02, 2023 01:40 PM (bs+z0)

55 [looks around furtively for lyric police]

Who you trust when everyone's a crook?

Posted by: Geoff Tate at November 02, 2023 01:40 PM (DZrNt)

56 Do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war?
He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that, over a 100 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought.
Israel can no longer sit back and allow muzzie infiltration, muzzie indoctrination, muzzie subversion and the international muzzie conspiracy to kill their citizens willy nilly.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 02, 2023 01:40 PM (R/m4+)

57 This would be an opportune time for the gope to point out Biden and his administration are true POS.

Mr. Johnson are you a stiff?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 02, 2023 01:40 PM (l10hq)

58 Who does Senile Joe think he is to demand anything from Israel?
-
Their munitions supplier.

Until they find someone more reliable.
Posted by: Methos at November 02, 2023 01:37 PM (Dno

It’s not as big of a tool as it once was. Israel knew they had to start producing their own weapons and munitions. It is though still a tool .

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 01:40 PM (MNhXM)

59 O/T Girl F. just texted she is in south Philly having a steak.

At Pat's. Because she was raised right.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 02, 2023 01:40 PM (RIvkX)

60 One weird exception-- NBC mentioned it briefly but did not comment on what this means for the "two state solution" and "peace process."
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The Babylon Bee @TheBabylonBee
'We May Never Know Exactly What Hamas Wants' Says Reporter In Front Of Hamas Holding 'Exterminate Jews From Existence' Banner

GAZA — Members of the media remain unsure of the motivation behind Hamas' violent attacks against Israel, with a reporter on the scene left speculating while Hamas terrorists held up a banner behind her with "EXTERMINATE THE JEWS FROM EXISTENCE" written boldly in all-caps. [more at link]

https://tinyurl.com/zjvm4xnw

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023 01:40 PM (krqg6)

61 I regret the error. It was stupid to post that without checking.

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Well, except for the regret part, now you're a real journalist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (FVME7)

62 HUMANITARIAN CRISIS

ISLAMOPHOBIA

STAND BY UKRAINE

Joe is a putz.

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (v0R5T)

63 In other words, the IDF finds itself in a precarious position thanks to its rapid success
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Joe Biden: Handicapper General.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (ELpxa)

64 IDF engineering forces launch large-scale operation in Gaza to clear landmines & roadside bombs, detect & destroy tunnels; forces deploy diverse array of robots and explosives to shatter Hamas defenses.

I've been wondering what new approaches the Israelis have to detecting tunnels. The old ways of using microphones to listen are useful, but I wonder if they can use variations in the heat level of the ground (like the Ukes use to spot mines), density measurements like those used in looking for ore and petroleum, or look for telltale subsidence. The big improvement would be if they can put such instrumentation on drones or even robot carts, which can cover a lot of ground.

If they did have such tools, I'm sure they wouldn't say so.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (I/Qkd)

65 >>>The Babylon Bee @TheBabylonBee
'We May Never Know Exactly What Hamas Wants' Says Reporter In Front Of Hamas Holding 'Exterminate Jews From Existence' Banner

Aw damn I meant to include that!!!!

Posted by: ace at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (KRtlO)

66 57 Do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war?
He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that, over a 100 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought.
Israel can no longer sit back and allow muzzie infiltration, muzzie indoctrination, muzzie subversion and the international muzzie conspiracy to kill their citizens willy nilly.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 02, 2023 01:40 PM (R/m4+)

========

Theory:

Early 20th Century French elite were a large bag of shitstains that all should have been kept very far from the running of a war en masse.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

67 There was an actual negotiated cease fire on October 6th.

But the some people did some things.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (yipD3)

68 It is difficult to claim that you want a ceasefire just to give the parties a chance to work things out by treaty when one side has declared it will continue launching terrorist butchery and rape operations until the end of time or the end of the Jewish people, whichever comes first.
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Oh, it's quite easy to claim it.

It's harder to get people to believe it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (ELpxa)

69 I remember the propaganda efforts from the first two intifadas - it has been interesting watching the Palis try to run the same playbook in a very different information environment in 2023. Oh sure, they still have the major networks falling for most of their BS, but the fact that more people don't get their info from mainstream sources, plus just the general increase in news media competition means that ops like the fake hospital bombing are debunked in hours instead of days or weeks, and cost media outlets further prestige. They are having a hard time keeping up - looking more like Baghdad Bob out there.

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (5C4od)

70 The amount of bribery from the Islamists must be enormous.

Posted by: davidt at November 02, 2023 01:32 PM (SYTee)

No...the Kalorama Kids are doing this for free. Their vision of the Middle East is Iran as a powerful foil to those filthy Joos in "occupied Palestine." They WANT Israel to lose...no bribery necessary.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (3Gtis)

71 i had it in the quick hits post but was going to move that into this one.

oh well too late now

Posted by: ace at November 02, 2023 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

72 30 Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com 4h
Israeli officer: Gaza terrorists will be dying in tunnels as IDF collapses them; Hamas made a mistake by hiding in underground zone with no escape routes; hundreds of shafts & tunnels destroyed by engineering corps & Air Force so far. via @WallaNews
......

Talk about digging your own grave.

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2023 01:42 PM (v0R5T)

73 Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will urge the Israeli government to agree to a series of brief cessations of military operations in Gaza to allow for hostages to be released safely and for humanitarian aid to be distributed, White House officials said on Thursday

And Israel will urge Antony Blinken to take a flying leap up their collective asses.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:42 PM (I/Qkd)

74 They know that it's about the annihilation of Israel and the Jews -- but they don't want you to know it.

They have chosen sides, and it's the side of the terrorists.

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Same as it ever was with the sycophantic MDM-MSM death cult whores.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 01:42 PM (yL61Q)

75 The only conclusion one can reach for this exclusion is that American media have taken the side of Hamas in this fight. They don't want to inform Americans about the real stakes of this war, and that it's not about Gaza, the West Bank, or East Jerusalem, or even the rogue settlements. They know that it's about the annihilation of Israel and the Jews -- but they don't want you to know it.

They have chosen sides, and it's the side of the terrorists.
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It always is, and it always will be until and unless the "terrorists" decide to go after them. That will happen, but it will be later - after the west falls. When that time comes, their objections will be meaningless.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:42 PM (ELpxa)

76 72 i had it in the quick hits post but was going to move that into this one.

oh well too late now
Posted by: ace at November 02, 2023 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

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I have no idea what's going on...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

77 60 At Pat’s

Hooray for androgyny!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (JrojV)

78 DU did a post on it, actually, as reported in these comments.

They said he was just one guy.

These are the same people who freaked out about one kid having some sort of disagreement with an injun.

Posted by: lol at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (CjGGv)

79 72 i had it in the quick hits post but was going to move that into this one.

oh well too late now
Posted by: ace at November 02, 2023 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

You snooze you lose

Posted by: It's me donna at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (bs+z0)

80 I regret the error. It was stupid to post that without checking.
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This is how you know that Ace is not a mainstream journalist in disguise, playing a long game.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (ELpxa)

81 47 Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will urge the Israeli government to agree to a series of brief cessations of military operations in Gaza to allow for hostages to be released safely and for humanitarian aid to be distributed, White House officials said on Thursday.
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The only rational play is for Israel to refuse. Hamas can have a "cease fire" any time it pleases by surrendering and submitting to military occupation. Short of that, no deal.

Existential war is total war. Total war requires unconditional surrender and unconditional victory. It can be either side, but it must be one of the sides.

We'll see what Israel does.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (ELpxa)
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What's the fucking point of a siege, or any military operation whatsoever, if before you've even really drawn blood you gotta send in "aid" to fortify and refresh the enemy? It's like Israelis are paying Hamas to murder them.

This is so mind-boggling stupid that I'm amazed the human brain can actually fire neurons in that particular order.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (iFTx/)

82 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

No argument here.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (MNhXM)

83 i had it in the quick hits post but was going to move that into this one.

oh well too late now
Posted by: ace at November 02, 2023 01:42 PM (KRtlO)

Is the time machine busted?

Posted by: Dr. T at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (bhRsz)

84 I can thoroughly see the US withdrawing the carrier groups and quit supplying ammunition if Israel tells Bribe'em to pound sand. That venal mutherfucker is that rotten.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (XSTWK)

85 Israeli officer: Gaza terrorists will be dying in tunnels as IDF collapses them; Hamas made a mistake by hiding in underground zone with no escape routes; hundreds of shafts & tunnels destroyed by engineering corps & Air Force so far. via @WallaNews
......

Talk about digging your own grave.

Technically speaking, they're catacombs.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (I/Qkd)

86 Well, Biden can demand on one hand and shit in the other, and see which one the media reports on first.

Posted by: Wally at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (hqVaF)

87 The DNC's focus groups of AWFLs and middle-class Karens must be screaming that Hamas atrocities against Israelis are ancient history, and now they demand Joe force Israel to stop dropping uncountable anthrax, napalm, and mustard gas bombs that are killing or scarring-for-life millions of cute, light brown-skinned, Palestinian children.

Posted by: Gref at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (5fDan)

88 80 These are the same people who freaked out about one kid having some sort of disagreement with an injun.
Posted by: lol at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (CjGGv)

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The kid didn't even know what the injun was talking about.

He must be destroyed.

Calling for the eradication of Jews is just Hamas culture, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

89 The Dems are flailing about trying to appease two large blocs of their supporters that are diametrically opposed.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (CwhoI)

90 Allowing Hamas a ceasefire is basically the same as letting the Iron Sheik keep one foot out of the ring.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (wtvvX)

91 The big improvement would be if they can put such instrumentation on drones or even robot carts, which can cover a lot of ground.

If they did have such tools, I'm sure they wouldn't say so.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:41 PM (I/Qkd)

They have them. Electromagnetic energy detectors that are incredibly sensitive.

And they are mounted on drones.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (3Gtis)

92 To be fair, I am not thinking they see Iran as a foil to Israel, but as a foil to the US. Israel, I think is just a bonus (depends on how truly antisemitic they are.) Mileage may vary.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (Gbphe)

93 Now that Iran knows these mass attacks against civilians work?

Expect something similar from Hezbollah in Lebanon in about six months. 2,000-4,000 fanatics pouring across Northern Israel to rape, murder and kidnap Israelis.

Then maybe the West Bank or the Syrian border, and from Gaza again.

All to terrorize, demoralize and wear out the Israelis. Then the Israelis voluntarily begin emigrating out of Israel.

At least that is the Iranian plan

Posted by: rd at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (hEUa2)

94 Shame Sundowner wasn't around Dec 8, 1942 to cry no retaliation on Japan

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (fwDg9)

95 Foreign news outlets certainly have covered it. Newspapers from the UK, Canada, India, and others (especially Israel, of course) have given Hamad's declaration major coverage. So why have American media refrained from reporting on it?

Because they are literally State Media, as controlled by the Democrats as Pravda was buy the Soviets.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 02, 2023 01:44 PM (aD39U)

96 So now, the Israelis will give Joe Biden lip service and then proceed as planned.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (RIvkX)

97 Don’t do it BiBi

Don’t do it

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (MwHgU)

98 >>Gaza is on the Med. The entire stretch of it. I would not screw around with these tunnels. I'd flood 'em with sea-water. Find a few openings, then cut loose with some really, really big pumps.

Even just for the psych op win. 1000 GPM of pumps, with sea water, can be easily moved via trailer. I've done it. And we're talking no pressure here - it would be so easy to do. Centrifugal pumps would do.
Posted by: Common Sense

I read the IDF is using some kind of hardening foam bombs to seal up the tunnels. The Great Stuff bomb.

They should then flood the tunnels from the opposite end.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (l10hq)

99 I can only say on thing on this topic: Bibi, please ignore the U.S. government and do what’s in your country’s best interests

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (KEuti)

100 I can thoroughly see the US withdrawing the carrier groups and quit supplying ammunition if Israel tells Bribe'em to pound sand. That venal mutherfucker is that rotten.

He might as well cede the '24 election then.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (I/Qkd)

101 I have no idea what's going on...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

probably the babylon bee item

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (i9ffA)

102 37 Ah, Biden finally confesses to the Kerry Plan.

Fuck these guys. I hope they get ass cancer. The slow kind.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 01:37 PM (myvUL)

++++
Biden is unbelievably repulsive to me and it galls me to no end that he holds the position in which he can spew obnoxious and horrifying garbage out of his maw. There is not a disease debilitating enough for him, but ass cancer will suffice.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (FL9yc)

103 The demo do not seem to be trying to appease the Jews though. By omission, they are telling them to get bent.

They have a swarthy NEW boyfriend.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (Gbphe)

104 They know that it's about the annihilation of Israel and the Jews -- but they don't want you to know it.

They have chosen sides, and it's the side of the terrorists.

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They are part of the Left so their side is chosen for them. They must be opposite of whatever the Right supports.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (MNhXM)

105 98 So now, the Israelis will give Joe Biden lip service and then proceed as planned.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (RIvkX)

This is what I think

Posted by: It's me donna at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (bs+z0)

106 Gaza is on the Med. The entire stretch of it. I would not screw around with these tunnels. I'd flood 'em with sea-water. Find a few openings, then cut loose with some really, really big pumps.

Even just for the psych op win. 1000 GPM of pumps, with sea water, can be easily moved via trailer. I've done it. And we're talking no pressure here - it would be so easy to do. Centrifugal pumps would do.
Posted by: Common Sense at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (pr+qD)

Good plan; needs piranhas.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (bhRsz)

107 What's the fucking point of a siege, or any military operation whatsoever, if before you've even really drawn blood you gotta send in "aid" to fortify and refresh the enemy? It's like Israelis are paying Hamas to murder them.

This is so mind-boggling stupid that I'm amazed the human brain can actually fire neurons in that particular order.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 02, 2023 01:43 PM (iFTx/)
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There is no point. That is the point of the demand for a "cease fire" - to maintain the status quo of an "independent" Gaza that periodically makes war with Israel, and an Israel that periodically engages in partial retribution, while the complex systems feeding that dynamic continue to profit through power, influence and money.

Israel can comply with it, and retain access to that system - or it can decide to finally deal with the problem and possibly be abandoned by its one ally (unreliable as it may be). I don't know what it will choose, but I have a guess. That guess is that this ends up looking a lot like every prior scenario.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (ELpxa)

108 This is why I said it was war and not terrorism.

The Left uses these semantic tricks to nudge the public away from the truth. (Which is odd, considering they are antisemites.)

The goal in war is to crush your enemy until they agree to submit. To destroy them if necessary.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (+jO8W)

109 They have them. Electromagnetic energy detectors that are incredibly sensitive.

And they are mounted on drones.

SQUID magnetometers?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (I/Qkd)

110 Ceasefire is code for Hamas' reload and resupply.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (MeG8a)

111 Classic use of "Trust Me I'm Lying."

Posted by: Zek at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (5FPX4)

112 Very interesting, as noted at HotAir, that the NY Times has not reported on the Hamas spokesman demanding a thousand 10/7s and to wipe out Israel.

Posted by: Candidus at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (Ya7DW)

113 Has anyone seen or heard from Speaker Clark Kent? I wonder what his take on this might be.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 02, 2023 01:36 PM (l10hq)

I can't unsee that now. LOL

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (zjgNU)

114 It's Leftists screaming their friends Hamas are getting hurt

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (fwDg9)

115 Biden's handlers also think that Bibi is on the verge of being forced out of office.

They seem to think that a new Israeli government will form that will be willing to negotiate with Hamas.

After October 7th, and after Israelis viewed the videos the Hamas death squads took on October 7th, the chances that there will be an Israeli government willing to negotiate with Hamas are zero.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (2tUFv)

116 Let's hope Bibi tells Biden's Handlers to FUCK OFF

Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (geLO8)

117 > I think there's nothing more complicated than Biden's backers getting scared about his poll numbers dropping on the left.

Some middle east groups were talking about reducing oil to the US. Betcha that got Joey's handler's attention.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (0N1h0)

118 Piss & salt. Piss & salt.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (XjWYE)

Save some for Fauci's grave when the reaper finally calls.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (N39Ws)

119 satans little meat puppet.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (ytSiK)

120 He might as well cede the '24 election then.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (I/Qkd)

Do I need to say it?

He and they act as though they no longer have to worry about elections. The destruction of Israel might be enough of a carrot for them to allow some GOPe motherfucker to 'win' for a cycle though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (Gbphe)

121 Salon explains it all.

Progressive journalist shocks absolutely nobody by claiming conservative Christians and MAGA are worse than Hamas

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Just a taste . . .

While the world burns, Johnson and the MAGA wing of the Republican Party — which seems to have swallowed the evangelical movement while also embracing it (a T-1000 morphing into Sarah Connor is just about the right image) — is embracing the darkest verses of the Bible, apparently pushing for apocalypse with an enthusiasm only rivaled by Saul's slaughter of Christians before he changed his name to Paul.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (FVME7)

122 98 So now, the Israelis will give Joe Biden lip service and then proceed as planned.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (RIvkX)

I was thinking along those lines. The thing about cutting Gaza in two is that it makes it much easier to allow supplies into the south; I believe Israel has determined that the great majority of Hamas' infrastructure is in the north, underneath Gaza City.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (i9ffA)

123 Send in James Taylor!

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (v0R5T)

124 SQUID magnetometers?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (I/Qkd)

I am not sure. There was an interesting article recently about the topic, but I breezed through it and retained just a few tidbits.

I'll look for it...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (3Gtis)

125
LET BIBI BE BIBI

Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (geLO8)

126 Huh. You would think we'd have Joe and Bibi act differently so as to end this war quickly.

Posted by: Endless Wars, Inc. at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (bt2PN)

127 Field marshall general Biden will lead Israel!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (QqMaK)

128 Sometimes people really do get too worked up over one guy. We should avoid that kind of overreaction.

Posted by: Adolf H., long-time reader, first-time commenter at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (CjGGv)

129 "Good plan; needs piranhas."
Sharks with frickin lasers.

Posted by: Zek at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (5FPX4)

130
When it is 'kill or be killed' time I'll never denigrate the person who is prepared and can walk away alive.

People in this country damn well better start getting prepared.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (enJYY)

131 He [Durbin] looks healthy. I sure hope he doesn't catch a touch of covid.

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"PTSD will do that to a heroic & decorated soldier who was deep in the shit in Nam, ~~brother~~ h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (yL61Q)

132 Oh, the normal way -- they just refused to report it. They can't have the public knowing that Hamas has already announced that it doesn't matter what Israel does, they will proceed with genocidal terrorist attacks until every Jew is dead.

========

DU did a post on it, actually, as reported in these comments.

They said he was just one guy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

The same statement is in Hamas' founding charter. Not backing off from that is why Trump aced them out of the peace talks years ago and put them in this spot. Not requiring that from the start says a lot about US negotiatiors in the past.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (eoQWY)

133 Biden was bragging about getting Bibi to stop attacks to get out the 2 Americans . Then he bragged about dealing with egypt..

Posted by: It's me donna at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (bs+z0)

134 Die or Surrender! > humanitarian pauses

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 02, 2023 01:49 PM (RIvkX)

135 No ceasefire in Gaza, no votes, Muslim Americans tell Biden

2 days ago

https://www.reuters.com/
world/us/no-ceasefire-gaza-no-votes-muslim-americans-
tell-biden-2023-10-31/

Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023 01:49 PM (qfBOF)

136 119 > I think there's nothing more complicated than Biden's backers getting scared about his poll numbers dropping on the left.

Some middle east groups were talking about reducing oil to the US. Betcha that got Joey's handler's attention.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (0N1h0)

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They'll be able to count to victory in their urban centers, but America is getting sportier making the cheat more obvious, plus inflation is making it harder to simply surivive.

Revolutions tend to happen in times when the poor aren't able to feed themselves anymore.

A successful dictator will make sure the food is plentiful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

137 Ever notice that at times we all just say the same thing in different ways?

Eh, better than T v D.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 02, 2023 01:49 PM (Gbphe)

138 ... While the world burns, Johnson and the MAGA wing of the Republican Party — which seems to have swallowed the evangelical movement while also embracing it (a T-1000 morphing into Sarah Connor is just about the right image) — is embracing the darkest verses of the Bible, apparently pushing for apocalypse with an enthusiasm only rivaled by Saul's slaughter of Christians before he changed his name to Paul.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (FVME7)
++++
There's nothing worse than a shitbag journalist who managed a decent grade in Freshman Composition.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:49 PM (ELpxa)

139 I regret the error. It was stupid to post that without checking.

that's OK, we're forgivers

Posted by: kallisto at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (sNFhT)

140 I was thinking along those lines. The thing about cutting Gaza in two is that it makes it much easier to allow supplies into the south

I think that is the Israeli plan, now that they have cut Gaza in two - supplies allowed in the south, nothing in the north.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (2tUFv)

141 They seem to think that a new Israeli government will form that will be willing to negotiate with Hamas.

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You know, split the difference. Agree that Hamas may kill only half the Jews.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (FVME7)

142 Abe Lincoln: There must be unconditional victory.

A. Blinken: There must be unconditional ceasefire.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (gf7Ez)

143 Biden is unbelievably repulsive to me and it galls me to no end that he holds the position in which he can spew obnoxious and horrifying garbage out of his maw.

There is not a disease debilitating enough for him, but ass cancer will suffice.
Posted by: washrivergal

I want him to have full blown dementia, to the point he recognizes NO ONE, and live another 15 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (XjWYE)

144 See the connection why Leftists let criminals off the hook and out of prison?

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (fwDg9)

145 So now, the Israelis will give Joe Biden lip service and then proceed as planned.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (RIvkX)

I was thinking along those lines. The thing about cutting Gaza in two is that it makes it much easier to allow supplies into the south; I believe Israel has determined that the great majority of Hamas' infrastructure is in the north, underneath Gaza City.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (i9ffA)

The initial demand to clear the north early on also made the north relatively low on civilian shields. The uptick in fighting is likely increasing the flow out of the battle zone.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (eoQWY)

146 Did y'all see that NYC Mayor Eric Adams was on his way to the White House to pressure Joey's handlers on immigration, when suddenly the FBI raids his top fundraiser? I bet Adams noticed the "coincidence."

https://is.gd/1HkkRM

Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (0N1h0)

147 I hope Bibi double deals Bidet the same way the Junta has been playing the Israelis.

I truly wish for this.

Posted by: kallisto at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (sNFhT)

148
Cue the MSM's breathless reporting of how Joey's cunning de-escalation is saving the lives of hostages.

Of course, this is a 180 turn from the "what hostages?" story line, which makes it even more brilliant.

Posted by: Auspex at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (j4U/Z)

149 What did Colin Powell say about the Iraqi army in Kuwait?

(paraphrasing)

'first we're gonna cut it off, then we're gonna kill it'

that's how you do Gaza City

imo ymmv

Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (geLO8)

150 Is there a single adult in DC who looks at what's going on in Gaza and worries about things getting completely out of hand in the ME?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (z5vMw)

151 139 Ever notice that at times we all just say the same thing in different ways?

Eh, better than T v D.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 02, 2023 01:49 PM (Gbphe)

========

DeSantis never recanted the Nickelback fandom!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

152 >>No...the Kalorama Kids are doing this for free. Their vision of the Middle East is Iran as a powerful foil to those filthy Joos in "occupied Palestine." They WANT Israel to lose...no bribery necessary.

Leftists have been openly building this case for years. It's not magic that has turned college campuses into Hamas cheerleading squads, it's decades of indoctrination. Same with the media, Hollywood and almost every other part of our society.

Putin is a monster but he's not wrong about the corruption of western society.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (ZLI7S)

153 After October 7th, and after Israelis viewed the videos the Hamas death squads took on October 7th, the chances that there will be an Israeli government willing to negotiate with Hamas are zero.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (2tUFv)

And once Benny Gantz joined the government and was given a say in Defense policy, Netanyahu's control of the Knesset became rock solid. There's not going to be any new government as long as this war goes on - barring some catastrophic blunder of course. (like listening to Biden)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (i9ffA)

154 In Kratman's A Desert Called Peace the leader of the military force encircles the city and then holds everyone inside for some time, to deplete the food stores. He then allows women and children out and then waits several more days or weeks before attacking. By the time he attacks there is no food and the defenders have been starving for days. Seems reasonable to me.

Posted by: Heresolong at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (FSbq+)

155 127 LET BIBI BE BIBI

que sera sera
whatever bibi bibi

Posted by: anachronda at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (oY6Yp)

156 Has the Senile Old Goat broken out the story about being an advisor to Golda Meier?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (HfNu5)

157
HUMANITARIAN PAUSE!
RAWK!

Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (aD39U)

158 Remember that time ace posted without checking?

Chuy would have checked first.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (Gbphe)

159 I've always thought there was some kind of cognitive dissonance for leftist support of Islam. But I think I figured it out- their "prophet" is a pedophile.

Posted by: Haimerej at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (LnSys)

160 Sand rats never say ceasefire, they always claim hudna. Completely different meaning.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (XSTWK)

161 Our new Islamophobia Czar should fly over and have a meeting with Hamas. A long meeting. Underground.

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (v0R5T)

162 152 Is there a single adult in DC who looks at what's going on in Gaza and worries about things getting completely out of hand in the ME?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (z5vMw)

Is there a single adult in DC who looks at what's going on in Ukraine and worries about things getting completely out of hand in that part of the world?

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (i9ffA)

163 Having a snack before going to bed (3rd shift guy) and reading a Gun Digest from 1990, which features a full-page color ad for the Colt Double Eagle.
Haha! What a failure that was. I remember handling one and thinking, WTF. It was absurdly heavy, had a weird forward-canted trigger, and the grip shape was awful even by ComBloc standards. They made that abortion in 10mm!
I could not imagine touching off one of the original Norma 200-grain loads in one of those poorly-proportioned misbegotten hemorrhoids of a pistol.
There's a guy on Colt Forum who has every model of that thing ever made, and apparently Colt made a bunch: compact, .40 S&W, a bunch of crazy stuff. Anyway I'd forgotten about that thing completely until just now. What a horrible gun.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (/BBNv)

164 131 "Good plan; needs piranhas."
Sharks with frickin lasers.
Posted by: Zek at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (5FPX4)

Yeah sharks are a better idea.

Piranhas are fresh water.

Throw in some killer sting rays for extra mayhem.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (yipD3)

165 Israel can comply with it, and retain access to that system - or it can decide to finally deal with the problem and possibly be abandoned by its one ally (unreliable as it may be). I don't know what it will choose, but I have a guess. That guess is that this ends up looking a lot like every prior scenario.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:46 PM (ELpxa)
________

I agree and predicted this on October 8. I would add that it's not just Israel's one ally (us) that's unreliable. The enemy and its sympathizers are also deep in the power structures in Israel, and want to destroy the country from within. I'm curious what polling in Israel is. I'll bet you support for for a suicidal cease-fire is over 40%. Hell, I'll be support for Hamas itself is at least 15%.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 02, 2023 01:53 PM (iFTx/)

166 Dick Durban wore a turban on his way to the fair

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 02, 2023 01:53 PM (NtVYv)

167 Some middle east groups were talking about reducing oil to the US. Betcha that got Joey's handler's attention.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (0N1h0)
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An easily-solved problem, not that they want to solve it. Just prohibit export of energy products from the US again and we're self-sufficient, even with Biden's anti-energy actions. The only problem is New England, which requires supply by ship because of NYS' refusal to permit new pipelines. Supply by ship means foreign supply, because of the Jones Act combined with the destruction of American shipping.

But there are much broader consequences of that, since our ability to resupply Europe will falter in such a condition, and we run the strong chance of losing hegemony there as a result and it would be a major blow to dollarized trade. But it could be done and if America still had any strength, we would do it because those downsides wouldn't be there.

But we don't have the strength, and so we're stuck.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 01:53 PM (ELpxa)

168 While the world burns, Johnson and the MAGA wing of the Republican Party — which seems to have swallowed the evangelical movement while also embracing it (a T-1000 morphing into Sarah Connor is just about the right image) — is embracing the darkest verses of the Bible, apparently pushing for apocalypse with an enthusiasm only rivaled by Saul's slaughter of Christians before he changed his name to Paul.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (FVME7)

His target audience will have no idea what he is talking about. They don't know the bible, and the movie he's citing is over a generation old.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 01:53 PM (eoQWY)

169 Is anyone demanding a humanitarian ceasefire in Ukraine?

If not, why not?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 01:53 PM (lf83v)

170 Abe Lincoln: There must be unconditional victory.

A. Blinken: There must be unconditional ceasefire.
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (gf7Ez)
........

John Kirby: I'm scared.

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2023 01:54 PM (v0R5T)

171 I think it's time to start calling Hamas's underground tunnels "The Fuehrer Bunker".

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 02, 2023 01:54 PM (wtvvX)

172 Is anyone demanding a humanitarian ceasefire in Ukraine?

If not, why not?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
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That's a really good point.

Posted by: Blago at November 02, 2023 01:54 PM (Q1g4n)

173 You know, split the difference. Agree that Hamas may kill only half the Jews.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 02, 2023 01:50 PM (FVME7)

The Half-state solution! Blinkin would be so proud!

Posted by: Auspex at November 02, 2023 01:54 PM (j4U/Z)

174 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (FVME7)

Same over wrought hyperbole the Left have been using against the Right for the last hundred years.

Goldwater was going to blow us all up, Reagan was going to blow us all up and turn us into a theocracy, The Right was going to imprison women who get abortions, etc etc etc.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 01:54 PM (MNhXM)

175 Hey Joe, why don't you demand that Iran pull its dick out of your ass?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 02, 2023 01:54 PM (CecP5)

176 I regret the error. It was stupid to post that without checking.

Lamont, you big dummy.

Posted by: Sanford at November 02, 2023 01:54 PM (CjGGv)

177 175 Is anyone demanding a humanitarian ceasefire in Ukraine?

If not, why not?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
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That's a really good point.
Posted by: Blago at November 02, 2023 01:54 PM (Q1g4n)

Silly that's a sanctioned war

Posted by: It's me donna at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (bs+z0)

178 Is anyone demanding a humanitarian ceasefire in Ukraine?

If not, why not?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 01:53 PM (lf83v)
.......

It's a fake war?

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (v0R5T)

179 has it been mentioned that what's his name in venezuela has already broken the agreement we made with him to let him sell us petroleum? sharp negotiations there

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (B1FKF)

180 >98 So now, the Israelis will give Joe Biden lip service and then proceed as planned.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 02, 2023 01:45 PM (RIvkX)

If it's true that Gaza City is surrounded, I could see the Israelis agreeing to a short pause in the South while they continue to expand operations in the North.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (Ys9p5)

181 They seem to think that a new Israeli government will form that will be willing to negotiate with Hamas.

this is not gonna happen

the slaughter that occurred on October 7, and the way it happened, and the targets of the savagery and depravity...this is something pretty much every Israeli now has burned in their brain. There is so much information coming out, from coroners who had to process the dead, from survivors of the attacks, from rescuers who found atrocities that they'd never imagined could happen on their land.

Whoever thinks the usual playbook is going to be followed is sorely mistaken. The Israeli population wants Hamas demolished.

Posted by: kallisto at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (sNFhT)

182 73 30 Israel Radar @IsraelRadar_com 4h
Israeli officer: Gaza terrorists will be dying in tunnels as IDF collapses them; Hamas made a mistake by hiding in underground zone with no escape routes; hundreds of shafts & tunnels destroyed by engineering corps & Air Force so far. via @WallaNews
......

Talk about digging your own grave.
Posted by: wth at November 02, 2023 01:42 PM

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A lot of poor unemployed Gazan Palestinians literally did dig their own graves. Hamas and Islamic Jihad hired them to dig tunnels for them.

Then after they were done digging the tunnels, they were massacred by Hamas to keep the secrets of the tunnels really secret. Hamas is paranoid about Israeli intelligence agencies. They regularly denounce and kill fellow Palestinians as Israeli spies.

Posted by: rd at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (GTQoY)

183
I wholeheartedly support a ceasefire.

Once Israel glasses Gaza, a ceasefire is something to consider.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (n+4am)

184 Throw in some killer sting rays for extra mayhem.

*shudder*

Posted by: Zombie Steve Irwin at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (JrojV)

185 "Is anyone demanding a humanitarian ceasefire in Ukraine?
If not, why not?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot"

I hope Peter Doocy puts this one to Karin Diversity Hire.

Posted by: Zek at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (5FPX4)

186 Shrillary call Trump voters deplorable, racist, xenophobe, etc. Biden has made that policy, implemented inside the IRS and DOJ/FBI/etc. Eradication of Israel (little Satan) has long been policy of Iran, as they infiltrated DC ... especially with Obama and his Muslim Brotherhood team.

But it is a lot more "on the nose" after the terrorist attack on Israel, and the Muslims in the west are coming out in force with their message. The media and most of DC have chosen the side of ? not the West, for sure. They want us fighting on all sides while they continue to raid the treasury and gain more control.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (Cus5s)

187 going on in Ukraine and worries about things getting completely out of hand in that part of the world?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (i9ffA)
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Fair.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 02, 2023 01:56 PM (z5vMw)

188 >172 Is anyone demanding a humanitarian ceasefire in Ukraine?

If not, why not?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 01:53 PM (lf83v)

That was asked early on. Putin was like, 'Nah Brah'.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 02, 2023 01:56 PM (Ys9p5)

189 While the world burns, Johnson and the MAGA wing of the Republican Party — which seems to have swallowed the evangelical movement while also embracing it (a T-1000 morphing into Sarah Connor is just about the right image) — is embracing the darkest verses of the Bible, apparently pushing for apocalypse with an enthusiasm only rivaled by Saul's slaughter of Christians before he changed his name to Paul.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

There's nothing worse than a shitbag journalist who managed a decent grade in Freshman Composition.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Um, they can push all they want. It's not happening until God decides it's time.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 01:56 PM (XjWYE)

190 Throw in some killer sting rays for extra mayhem.
Posted by: Just Lily at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (yipD3)

Really?!

Posted by: Steve Irwin at November 02, 2023 01:56 PM (Gbphe)

191 Send in James Taylor!

Posted by: wth at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (v0R5T)

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Imagine if you will: a "mostly peaceful" concert in Gaza City.

The great humanitarian, James Taylor along with John F'ing Kerry, are singing a duet of "I've seen fire and I've seen rain ..."

As a tactical nuke explodes above them.

/A man can dream ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 01:56 PM (yL61Q)

192 The Israelis WILL get tired of this, much quicker than they got angry on 10/7. They will get tired of squandering their kids a dozen or two per day, with nothing to show for it.

People gauge their suffering not by the amount, but by the day. That's the shitty calculus that Hamas has correct.
Posted by: Common Sense at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (pr+qD)

It depends on progress. If the Israeli military continues to make advances, as they have so far,, people will accept casualties as a necessary part of war. If they allow themselves to get stuck in some stupid static war where things grind on with no change for months and months (See Russia and Ukraine) then yes, any people would get damned sick of that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:56 PM (i9ffA)

193 man I'm always at my wits end with class and the people in it by time I get to Thursday. 2 more hours.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 02, 2023 01:56 PM (CIS44)

194 We used flamethrowers on the Japanese in tunnels back in WWII

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 02, 2023 01:56 PM (cLWyk)

195 Off sock.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (JrojV)

196 >>People gauge their suffering not by the amount, but by the day. That's the shitty calculus that Hamas has correct.

No they won't. This isn't Indiana, this is the Middle East and Jews have lived with the threat of death at their doorstep for 2000 years.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (ZLI7S)

197 Talk about digging your own grave.
__________
Mmmfff mfff.

Posted by: Thousands of Iraqi Soldiers Bulldozed into Their Bunkers During Desert Storm at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (lf83v)

198 I regret the error. It was stupid to post that without checking.

Well, except for the regret part, now you're a real journalist.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

It should be in the passive voice, and no blame should be assigned.

"The error was regrettable."

Posted by: The New York Times at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (rhfv7)

199 OT I'm making chili again this weekend

would it be wrong to add a can of yellow corn to the pot

Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (geLO8)

200 Israel can comply with it, and retain access to that system - or it can decide to finally deal with the problem and possibly be abandoned by its one ally (unreliable as it may be).

It would be abandoned only so long as Joe Biden is in office. Even the Dems can't afford to let Israel be overrun.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (I/Qkd)

201 Whoever thinks the usual playbook is going to be followed is sorely mistaken. The Israeli population wants Hamas demolished.
Posted by: kallisto

I pray that is true.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (XjWYE)

202 202 OT I'm making chili again this weekend

would it be wrong to add a can of yellow corn to the pot
Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (geLO

Posted by: It's me donna at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (bs+z0)

203 I remember us after 9/11 being so fucking pissed off at the atrocities by Muslims yet a few years later we went balls deep in kumbaya and elected TFG to heal us.

Posted by: nckate at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (SnxUt)

204 >>That was asked early on. Putin was like, 'Nah Brah'.

The possibility of a ceasefire in Ukraine was not thwarted by Russia, but by our own State Department.

Look it up.

We stopped the best possible avenue for an end for that war.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (myvUL)

205 Dammit. I KNEW I would be too late to the Steve Irwin ref.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (Gbphe)

206 > I regret the error.

use 'we'

Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (geLO8)

207 Quite seriously these tunnels are an ideal application for robot dogs to trip booby traps and do reconnaisance. Unfortunately there are probably a lot of real war pooches who will make the ultimate sacrifice.

Posted by: Zek at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (5FPX4)

208 OT I'm making chili again this weekend

would it be wrong to add a can of yellow corn to the pot
Posted by: DB - at

Carrots!

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (CIS44)

209 OT I'm making chili again this weekend

would it be wrong to add a can of yellow corn to the pot
Posted by: DB

And beans & baby carrots. Along with some cinnamon spice.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (XjWYE)

210 Has that verminous Hamas spokesanimal from yesterday been terminally corrected yet?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 02, 2023 01:59 PM (HfNu5)

211 Send in James Taylor!

Posted by: wth
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Send in the Parasailers!

Posted by: Hamas at November 02, 2023 01:59 PM (lf83v)

212 163 Sand rats never say ceasefire, they always claim hudna. Completely different meaning.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (XSTWK)

++++

Right out of the gate they lied to high heaven about Israel bombing their damn hospital, with upwards of 500 fatalities.
False, like all of their claims, yet astoundingly this has no impact on the people who support them. Nothing seems to shake the fidelity to islam.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 02, 2023 01:59 PM (FL9yc)

213 There's not going to be any new government as long as this war goes on - barring some catastrophic blunder of course. (like listening to Biden)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (i9ffA)

Agreed. But Netanyahu will be gone the second they consolidate and call elections.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 01:59 PM (3Gtis)

214 202 OT I'm making chili again this weekend

would it be wrong to add a can of yellow corn to the pot
Posted by: DB

Only if you claim to be heterosexual.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 02, 2023 01:59 PM (xkbLL)

215 is embracing the darkest verses of the Bible, apparently pushing for apocalypse with an enthusiasm only rivaled by Saul's slaughter of Christians before he changed his name to Paul.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (FVME7)

And to be specific, want to know how Johnson is trying to bring about the Apocalypse?
He's trying to delink financial aid to Israel from financial aid to Ukraine, and to Hamas. OH THE HORROR HOW CAN HE???

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:59 PM (i9ffA)

216 206 I remember us after 9/11 being so fucking pissed off at the atrocities by Muslims yet a few years later we went balls deep in kumbaya and elected TFG to heal us.
Posted by: nckate at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (SnxUt)

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Shit happens when the GOP fights a war to keep it going instead of winning and then actively works against its own base on one of the top 3 issues to the base.

Almost like the GOP was run by a cabal of its own enemies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

217 There's something thrilling about an angry woman with a Southern accent.

https://is.gd/PGBRE5

Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (0N1h0)

218 202 OT I'm making chili again this weekend

would it be wrong to add a can of yellow corn to the pot
Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (geLO

Like to add frozen corn to mine

No carrots though

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (NtVYv)

219 Hey just look how well our humanitarian pause in the fire bombing of Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo, and Yokohama worked!

Posted by: Archer at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (gmo/4)

220 Quite seriously these tunnels are an ideal application for robot dogs to trip booby traps and do reconnaisance.

They're doing that. There are problems with loss of signal, but I suppose a wire trailed behind would also work.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (I/Qkd)

221 It would be abandoned only so long as Joe Biden is in office. Even the Dems can't afford to let Israel be overrun.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (I/Qkd)
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Two things on that.

First, this is the fundamental problem with the US on the world stage. It changes far too easily based only on the internal power dynamic of the ruling party.

Second, don't bet on it. The people running Biden will likely run the next guy, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (ELpxa)

222 Release the Sponge Bombs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MGVWx3FcRI

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (l10hq)

223 I regret the error. It was stupid to post that without checking.

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"Lamont!"

And just what the hell kind of "journalist" are you, anyway -- correcting for errors? You'd better be careful, or you'll give that term a good name ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (yL61Q)

224 Is there a single adult in DC who looks at what's going on in Gaza and worries about things getting completely out of hand in the ME?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (z5vMw)

Is there a single adult in DC who looks at what's going on in Ukraine and worries about things getting completely out of hand in that part of the world?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:52 PM (i9ffA)

Of the two it seems that Gaza is more in hand than Ukraine ever was. There's no arms flow to Hamas, nobody else has pitched in to put themselves on the line with Hamas. Ukraine has had far more stunts by the backers and by Ukraine that risk touching off a wider war than Gaza.

The real trick will be if Hamas is severely mauled where do the Gazans go? Because Israel would have a death wish if they opened the border or supplied power or water to anyone in there.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (eoQWY)

225 No corn in chili.

Make yummy cornbread to go with the no-corn chili.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (R4t5M)

226 219 And to be specific, want to know how Johnson is trying to bring about the Apocalypse?
He's trying to delink financial aid to Israel from financial aid to Ukraine, and to Hamas. OH THE HORROR HOW CAN HE???
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:59 PM (i9ffA)

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Incorrect. He's trying to force women to have babies by not making abortion mandatory for everyone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

227 >>We used flamethrowers on the Japanese in tunnels back in WWII

My grandfather was responsible for removing an entire mountain from one of those Pacific Islands.

They dug into it and buried enough ordnance to blow the top off the entire cave structure.

Go gramps!

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (myvUL)

228 Ta-Nehisi Coates Speaks Out Against Israel’s “Segregationist Apartheid Regime” After West Bank Visit. “The most shocking thing about my time over there was how uncomplicated it actually is,” says Coates, who calls segregation in Palestine and Israel “evil.”

"I was in a territory where your mobility is inhibited, where your voting rights are inhibited, where your right to the water is inhibited, where your right to housing is inhibited. And it’s all inhibited based on ethnicity. And that sounded extremely, extremely familiar to me."

“There’s no way for me, as an African American, to come back and stand before you, to witness segregation and not say anything about it.” Coates acknowledges the suppression of those advocating for Palestinian rights but says this is not new for Black writers and journalists. “I have to measure my fear against the misery that I saw.”

Posted by: Intercepted Democracy Now! Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (Czhvr)

229 Maybe if they stretch things out long enough they'll have time to dig new exits for their pre-digged tunels and attack the Israeli troops from unexpected angles.
Can't think of another reason for it. The civilians were warned to leave long ago and I'm sure even now the Israeli soldiers will let them pass, as long as they actually are civilians.

Posted by: PG at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (afPT4)

230 182 has it been mentioned that what's his name in venezuela has already broken the agreement we made with him to let him sell us petroleum? sharp negotiations there
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (B1FKF)

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Venezuela is warning the off shore energy companies that the leases they signed with Guyana are "null and void." Venezuela has an upcoming referendum that will authorize the government to take over 2/3 of Guyana.

Things could get really messy in South America.

Posted by: rd at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (xAxPR)

231 thank you DONNA

Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (geLO8)

232 Hamas kaput. No pause.

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (Aoizk)

233 There's not going to be any new government as long as this war goes on - barring some catastrophic blunder of course. (like listening to Biden)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (i9ffA)

Agreed. But Netanyahu will be gone the second they consolidate and call elections.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 01:59 PM (3Gtis)

THAT is exactly what I thought, HOWEVER, the more biden stabs Israel and Netanyahu in the back and tries to run the war for Israel all that might change. But biden is to stupid to understand that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (PQ4m2)

234 202 OT I'm making chili again this weekend

would it be wrong to add a can of yellow corn to the pot
Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (geLO

Like to add frozen corn to mine

No carrots though
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (NtVYv)

Just to clarify, with chili and beans. Just meat chili, no

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (NtVYv)

235 While the world burns, Johnson and the MAGA wing of the Republican Party — which seems to have swallowed the evangelical movement while also embracing it (a T-1000 morphing into Sarah Connor is just about the right image) — is embracing the darkest verses of the Bible, apparently pushing for apocalypse with an enthusiasm only rivaled by Saul's slaughter of Christians before he changed his name to Paul.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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As someone that is an Evangelical, I personally don't buy into any sort of foreign policy direction the US should take based on what the Bible says about "Israel"

To me, it's not to be taken literally and has lots of different meanings. But there are people out there that literally think it means we get into WW3 if at any point any modern country named Israel asks us to.

I support Israel simply because anyone can see who their enemy is and what sort of people they are. But it has zero to do with the Book of Revelations.

Posted by: Blago at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (Q1g4n)

236 No they won't. This isn't Indiana, this is the Middle East and Jews have lived with the threat of death at their doorstep for 2000 years.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (ZLI7S)

++++

Which came as a complete surprise that they were not all well-armed and trained to shoot. Shocking.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (FL9yc)

237 207 The possibility of a ceasefire in Ukraine was not thwarted by Russia, but by our own State Department.

Look it up.

We stopped the best possible avenue for an end for that war.

well, the important part of "oceania has always been at war with eastasia" is the "always been at war" bit.

Posted by: anachronda at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (oY6Yp)

238 Durbin should only get a case of James Hodgkinson lymphoma . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (x0n13)

239 Right out of the gate they lied to high heaven about Israel bombing their damn hospital, with upwards of 500 fatalities.
False, like all of their claims, yet astoundingly this has no impact on the people who support them. Nothing seems to shake the fidelity to islam.
Posted by: washrivergal

Right out of the gate they lied to high heaven about Israel bombing their damn 6000 bed CHILDREN'S hospital with upwards of 500 fatalities.

Accuracy matters.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (XjWYE)

240 No corn in chili.
__________

How will you know when it has passed through your system?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (lf83v)

241
Afghanistan, Ukraine, San Antonio....

Joey wins the worst person ever contest with style points for checking his watch 15 times while the American flag draped coffins roll past.

Posted by: Auspex at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (j4U/Z)

242 Do the sponge bombs all say “FIRST!” on them?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (JrojV)

243 169 Dick Durban wore a turban on his way to the fair

... driving a rented Suburban??

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (krqg6)

244 232 “There’s no way for me, as an African American, to come back and stand before you, to witness segregation and not say anything about it.” Coates acknowledges the suppression of those advocating for Palestinian rights but says this is not new for Black writers and journalists. “I have to measure my fear against the misery that I saw.”
Posted by: Intercepted Democracy Now! Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (Czhvr)

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Israel = oppressor therefore bad no matter the circumstances or reasons or actions.
West Bank = oppressed therefore good no matter the circumstances or reasons or actions.

It's stupidly simple calculus.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

245 >>242
Durbin should only get case of James Hodgkinson lymphoma . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Is that a form of ass cancer?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (l10hq)

246 These reporters are ALL hamas supporters and anti-Israel

And kirby is digging himself a huge hole right now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (PQ4m2)

247 Agreed. But Netanyahu will be gone the second they consolidate and call elections.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 01:59 PM (3Gtis)

I'm not so sure - I think it depends on the outcome of this war, and I'm not ready to bet on that yet. And I don't think he's required to call elections until late 2026.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (i9ffA)

248 Do the sponge bombs all say “FIRST!” on them?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at N

I read that as spongebobs. I really need to get out of this room for the day.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (CIS44)

249 >>... driving a rented Suburban??

Sipping a fine Kentucky Bourbon!

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (myvUL)

250 228 Is there a single adult in DC who looks at what's going on in Gaza and worries about things getting completely out of hand in the ME?

Posted by: Blake

Nah, we divested from Israel long ago. Our wealth is mostly in Dubai.

Posted by: DC at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (+jO8W)

251 >>Ta-Nehisi Coates Speaks Out Against Israel’s “Segregationist Apartheid Regime” After West Bank Visit.

He should be speaking out against his parents for giving him the dumb fuck name Ta-Neshi.

What the fuck is a Ta-Neshi?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2023 02:03 PM (ZLI7S)

252 The great humanitarian, James Taylor along with John F'ing Kerry, are singing a duet of "I've seen fire and I've seen rain ..."

As a tactical nuke explodes above them.

/A man can dream ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 01:56 PM (yL61Q)

Don't forget Roger Waters.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (ufFY8)

253 Added link to story
Venezuela is warning the off shore energy companies that the leases they signed with Guyana are "null and void." Venezuela has an upcoming referendum that will authorize the government to take over 2/3 of Guyana.

Things could get really messy in South America

Link to story:

https://tinyurl.com/4cwx5d8z

Posted by: rd at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (xAxPR)

254 Incorrect. He's trying to force women to have babies by not making abortion mandatory for everyone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures

Ew, gross! The last thing we need is more American babies! We can import more immigrants....they're better because they're brown!

Posted by: Lefty AWFL Activist at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (Czhvr)

255 Ta-Nehisi Coates Speaks Out Against Israel’s “Segregationist Apartheid Regime” After West Bank Visit. “The most shocking thing about my time over there was how uncomplicated it actually is,” says Coates, who calls segregation in Palestine and Israel “evil.”
________

How many Jews are the Arab nations taking in?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (lf83v)

256 No corn in chili.
__________

How will you know when it has passed through your system?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

You will know.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (R4t5M)

257 Here's an idea for Israel.

F J B

Posted by: fd at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (SpAy2)

258 They'll be able to count to victory in their urban centers, but America is getting sportier making the cheat more obvious, plus inflation is making it harder to simply surivive.

Revolutions tend to happen in times when the poor aren't able to feed themselves anymore.

A successful dictator will make sure the food is plentiful.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Successful revolts are usually when the elites are shown to be feckless monsters and those with something to lose figure out it is better to change the game rather than wait to lose everything.

That is why people like the Kim family seek to impoverish and starve the mass of their population. Starving people think only of their next meal. People with something to lose think about losing what little they already have.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (V0UuG)

259 The real trick will be if Hamas is severely mauled where do the Gazans go?

Posted by: Oldcat

I don't care.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (LBzpt)

260 "Pakistan is expelling 1.7 million Afghan refugees, many of whom have been living in Pakistan refugee camps for decades. Most of them will end up in Britain and other Western democracies"

I have a better idea. Perhaps 1.7 million Afghan refugees should return to Afghanistan.

Posted by: Heresolong at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (FSbq+)

261 Venezuela is warning the off shore energy companies that the leases they signed with Guyana are "null and void." Venezuela has an upcoming referendum that will authorize the government to take over 2/3 of Guyana.

Things could get really messy in South America.
Posted by: rd

Ooooohhhhh. A 3 front World War.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (XjWYE)

262 222 202 OT I'm making chili again this weekend

would it be wrong to add a can of yellow corn to the pot
Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 01:57 PM (geLO

Like to add frozen corn to mine

No carrots though

i like carrots. i'm having the carrots, carrots, carrots, carrots, baked beans, and carrots.

Posted by: anachronda at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (oY6Yp)

263 Posted by: Blago at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (Q1g4n)

There are about as many apocalyptic Evangelicals wanting WW3 as there are KKK members.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (MNhXM)

264 >>Things could get really messy in South America

The problem Venezuela is going to have with fielding an army is feeding them.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (myvUL)

265 156 In Kratman's A Desert Called Peace the leader of the military force encircles the city and then holds everyone inside for some time, to deplete the food stores. He then allows women and children out and then waits several more days or weeks before attacking. By the time he attacks there is no food and the defenders have been starving for days. Seems reasonable to me.

Posted by: Heresolong at November 02, 2023 01:51 PM (FSbq+)

Julius Caesar and besiegers back in the day were more ruthless. They never allowed the women and children to escape a besieged city or fort. That put more psychological pressure on the menfolk and put more disease-spreaders inside. At Alesia, Vercingetorix drove the women and children out out of the fortress, hoping Caesar would have mercy and let them escape through the Roman siege lines. Nope, Caesar did not let them escape. They were forced to starve, with no shelter, in the no man's land between the Roman lines and the walls of Alesia. In full view of the Gallic warriors who did not allow them back into the fortress. Eventually, Vercingetorix surrendered.

Posted by: Gref at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (5fDan)

266 How will you know when it has passed through your system?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (lf83v)
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The Burning 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted by: ballistic at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (oqH4h)

267 Release the Sponge Bombs

One of the early Dirty Jobs episode prefigured that approach. CA is riddled with old mines from the Gold Rush, and they're very dangerous to go into because of toxic gases, etc. The guy Mike Rowe worked with would throw what were effectively sponge bombs into the top of the cave opening. The foam would expand and harden, and make a very durable blockage into the cave. They then disguised the opening by throwing dirt and debris on top of it.

I have no idea how long the plugs last, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (I/Qkd)

268 He should be speaking out against his parents for giving him the dumb fuck name Ta-Neshi.

What the fuck is a Ta-Neshi?
Posted by: JackStraw a

He should be asking be asking for forgiveness for completely ruining the black panther character during his run.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (CIS44)

269 "We stopped the best possible avenue for an end for that war."
This is a bit like saying that the way to peace in the Middle East is for the US to abandon Israel. Then everything will be fine.
Putin is saying almost as much, saying that Western intervention in the Middle East is conducive to war, not peace.
I guess the West is supposed to withdraw and take care of its own problems, leaving Putin in charge, right?

Posted by: PG at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (afPT4)

270 >>That was asked early on. Putin was like, 'Nah Brah'.

The possibility of a ceasefire in Ukraine was not thwarted by Russia, but by our own State Department.

Look it up.

We stopped the best possible avenue for an end for that war.
Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 01:58 PM (myvUL)

After the first month the two sides had a working agreement that the Donbass states would be self ruling inside of Ukraine signed. Putin showed the signatures to the press a while back.

Boris Johnson the Brit BM jetted in and apparently promised Z the world to keep fighting on, so the Ukrainians repudiated the deal and made negotiations illegal. Yes, it is now illegal for Ukraine to even discuss peace.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (eoQWY)

271 Biden To Demand "Humanitarian" Ceasefires as Israel Encircles Gaza City
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Valerie Jarret told me I had to demand this, or there would be no ice cream and no kids to sniff this week.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (fs1hN)

272 Tunnels require ventilation. Cut the power to the ventilation system, destroy the intakes/exhausts, stand by and shoot anyone who manages to emerge from the exits. And tell the US administration to EABOD.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:06 PM (YRsIm)

273 I do add red beans to the chili

Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 02:06 PM (geLO8)

274 Afternoon.

Remember what Glenn Reynolds likes to say.

They're not anti-war. They're on the other side.

Posted by: Robert at November 02, 2023 02:06 PM (0bigV)

275
Accuracy matters.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:02 PM (XjWYE)

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LOL. Forgot that whopper.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 02, 2023 02:06 PM (FL9yc)

276 268 There are about as many apocalyptic Evangelicals wanting WW3 as there are KKK members.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (MNhXM)

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So, you're saying that they are every single Trump voter? Including all the women who only voted Republican because their husbands told them to?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

277 No corn in chili.
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How will you know when it has passed through your system?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Your sphincter will loosen, your eyes will get watery, nose hairs will burn & wall paper will begin to peel.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:06 PM (XjWYE)

278 How many Jews are the Arab nations taking in?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (lf83v)

Hell , how many Palestinians are Arab nations taking in?

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:07 PM (MNhXM)

279 I saw a really disturbing video a couple days ago.

A Jewish college student prepping for a Birthright Trip ranted for 10 minutes about how bad Israel was. She was clearly indoctrinated by her many classes on the subject. What she said was crazy stupid but how is it that she had no one to knock sense into her.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 02, 2023 02:07 PM (+jO8W)

280 I kinda like chili with corn, beans, and beef. The spices and the viscosity are much more important to me than corn or no corn. Brown the beef properly, add a good combination of spices, cook low and slow.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2023 02:07 PM (0N1h0)

281 The real trick will be if Hamas is severely mauled where do the Gazans go? Because Israel would have a death wish if they opened the border or supplied power or water to anyone in there.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Elites are already talking about bringing them into the West including the US either by stealth or directly. Egypt has put down a marker--no Gazans period unless they are dead.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:07 PM (V0UuG)

282 The territorial dispute between Venezuela and Guyana goes back a long time. To when both were colonies (of Spain and Britain, respectively).

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:07 PM (JrojV)

283 >>I do add red beans to the chili

Sparingly but allowed.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2023 02:07 PM (ZLI7S)

284 LOL. Forgot that whopper.
Posted by: washrivergal

There is no 6,000 bed hospital anywhere in the world. Let alone a children's hospital IN gaza.

😂😂😂

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:08 PM (XjWYE)

285 God will protect the innocent, like the household of Rahab in Jericho. The rest have begged God for judgement on their own heads.

Posted by: Emmie at November 02, 2023 02:08 PM (Sf2cq)

286 There are about as many apocalyptic Evangelicals wanting WW3 as there are KKK members.

Posted by: Drive
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I actually have to disagree, I know many of them. They're usually "boomer" types and they email this stuff to each other all the time. Some sign or prophesy.

They mean well, not bad people, I just think it's an ignorant interpretation of theology. But I'm also no theologian.

Posted by: Blago at November 02, 2023 02:08 PM (Q1g4n)

287 All of us predicted this would happen from the very beginning. I'm hoping Israel has all the war material they'll need to destroy and then occupy Gaza. It's the only way.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 02, 2023 02:08 PM (WIXZG)

288
Ooooohhhhh. A 3 front World War.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (XjWYE)

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I wonder what makes it a world war. Officially, how many countries have to be engaged? Or is there such an outline?

Posted by: washrivergal at November 02, 2023 02:09 PM (FL9yc)

289 Did I not read here yesterday that Aus, Germ. Japan, etc, etc hostages were allowed to leave but the US didn't let American's go when there was an opening??? NOW the SoS is heading to Israel to tell them to ceasefire so hostages can be released and humanitarian aid sent in??? Did the USA just use their own citizens as pawns in this nightmare so they could force Israel to not destroy Hamas in total? Unbefuckinlievable!

Posted by: Ted Striker's Polka Hits at November 02, 2023 02:09 PM (y+RCP)

290 Your sphincter will loosen, your eyes will get watery, nose hairs will burn & wall paper will begin to peel.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:06 PM (XjWYE)
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For me, that's a day ending in Y.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 02, 2023 02:09 PM (z5vMw)

291 Was a article last evening at American Thinker how everything kn Ukraine is being stolen and money pocketed, all aid is being theft

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2023 02:09 PM (fwDg9)

292 If you don't add beans to chili, then you are a 1%'er who can afford beef. Beans are just a protein stretcher.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:09 PM (XjWYE)

293 I actually have to disagree, I know many of them. They're usually "boomer" types and they email this stuff to each other all the time. Some sign or prophesy.

They mean well, not bad people, I just think it's an ignorant interpretation of theology. But I'm also no theologian.
Posted by: Blago at November 02, 2023 02:08 PM (Q1g4n)

The amount of people you know is minuscule relatively speaking.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:10 PM (MNhXM)

294 Elites are already talking about bringing them into the West including the US either by stealth or directly. Egypt has put down a marker--no Gazans period unless they are dead.
Posted by: whig
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I'll take 'elite' as a compliment, tyvm.

Posted by: Nikki Haley (R-Uniparty) at November 02, 2023 02:10 PM (fs1hN)

295 There are about as many apocalyptic Evangelicals wanting WW3 as there are KKK members.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:05 PM (MNhXM)

So like four or five old coots under a tent giving bad advice for free?

Posted by: Robert at November 02, 2023 02:10 PM (0bigV)

296 Hey, Biden. You got no problem with fornication, adultery, idolatry, homos, abortion, theft, lying, you worship money and peddle influence. Your credibility is where? Rhetorically speaking.

Posted by: 80's music fan at November 02, 2023 02:10 PM (as3uC)

297 The possibility of a ceasefire in Ukraine was not thwarted by Russia, but by our own State Department.

Look it up.

We stopped the best possible avenue for an end for that war.
Posted by: garrett

I forget where, but I read that State is hinting now that they do NOT want Russia to lose, especially Crimea since a weakened Russia will send the region into chaos.

(This is what I stressed the first week, so they are only 18 months behind some idiot like me.)
OK, so now what? perpetual war I guess. Or throw Ukraine under the bus like all our other former allies.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 02, 2023 02:11 PM (+jO8W)

298 I wonder what makes it a world war. Officially, how many countries have to be engaged? Or is there such an outline?
Posted by: washrivergal a

We currently have Hamas/Israel, Uke/Rooskie, Ajerbijani/Armenian, and god knows how many sporty areas in Africa.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 02, 2023 02:11 PM (CIS44)

299 The real trick will be if Hamas is severely mauled where do the Gazans go?

Posted by: Oldcat

I don't care.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (LBzpt)

Someone should because Israel really doesn't deserve the problems killing 2 million civilians would bring to them. Not solving the problem for 50 years has led us to this pass.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:11 PM (eoQWY)

300 My wife makes a very good white chili with chicken and white beans.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:11 PM (JrojV)

301
I actually have to disagree, I know many of them. They're usually "boomer" types and they email this stuff to each other all the time. Some sign or prophesy.

They mean well, not bad people, I just think it's an ignorant interpretation of theology. But I'm also no theologian.
Posted by: Blago at November 02, 2023 02:08 PM (Q1g4n)

I don't want WW3, but I admit I've fantasized about how wonderful it would be if DC were to get nuked.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (i9ffA)

302 to allow for ~~Hamas to re-supply~~ humanitarian aid to be distributed

The quiet part...

Posted by: Half Dozen at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (eHovo)

303 Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:07 PM (V0UuG)

Which is why I want the killing to stop. They will send them here.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (vLPcA)

304 292 All of us predicted this would happen from the very beginning. I'm hoping Israel has all the war material they'll need to destroy and then occupy Gaza. It's the only way.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
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Plenty of water in the Mediterranean Sea that the Egyptians already use to flood Hamas tunnels.

Sustainable warfare at its finest.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (V0UuG)

305 I have no idea how long the plugs last, though.
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It depends on what sort of workout you give them!

Posted by: don lemon at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (krqg6)

306 We're on the side of the bad guys. Same as Ukraine.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden hasn't lowered flags or called for release of Jewish American hostages at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (O69GV)

307 Hey, Durbin. How about a ceasefire in Chicago? Get Pritzger on the case. Maybe a few aldercreatures.

Posted by: 80's music fan at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (as3uC)

308 I forget where, but I read that State is hinting now that they do NOT want Russia to lose, especially Crimea since a weakened Russia will send the region into chaos.

(This is what I stressed the first week, so they are only 18 months behind some idiot like me.)
OK, so now what? perpetual war I guess. Or throw Ukraine under the bus like all our other former allies.
Posted by: Gentlemen

If they don't want Russia to lose, why do they keep rearming Ukraine?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (XjWYE)

309 Did I not read here yesterday that Aus, Germ. Japan, etc, etc hostages were allowed to leave but the US didn't let American's go when there was an opening??? Did the USA just use their own citizens as pawns in this nightmare so they could force Israel to not destroy Hamas in total? Unbefuckinlievable!
Posted by: Ted Striker's Polka Hits

Well, yeah...never let a crisis go to waste. We weren't quite ready to cash in the hostages card, so we just delayed a bit. Don't worry, though! Hamas and Iran will get quite a lot of concessions and payment for them!

Posted by: Team Obama at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (Czhvr)

310 Plenty of water in the Mediterranean Sea that the Egyptians already use to flood Hamas tunnels.

Sustainable warfare at its finest.
Posted by: whig at N

and detonate the exits when they come running out.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 02, 2023 02:13 PM (CIS44)

311 I wonder what makes it a world war. Officially, how many countries have to be engaged? Or is there such an outline?
Posted by: washrivergal at November 02, 2023 02:09 PM (FL9yc)

It's an interesting question. I got two possible answers.

1. In which all the Great Powers are engaged and where battle lines stretch around the globe.

2. I'll know it when I see it.

Posted by: Robert at November 02, 2023 02:13 PM (0bigV)

312 >>Someone should because Israel really doesn't deserve the problems killing 2 million civilians would bring to them. Not solving the problem for 50 years has led us to this pass.

Nobody has been seeking to solve the problem.

They are merely using the 'palis' as a Tool. There has never been any desire to remove the leverage that is gained by using them as a tool.

Utilitarians. Pure evil.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:13 PM (myvUL)

313 Someone should because Israel really doesn't deserve the problems killing 2 million civilians would bring to them.

NO ONE is killing 2 million civilians

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 02, 2023 02:13 PM (PQ4m2)

314 It looks like the "plan" for the Gazans, such as it is, is to concentrate them all in the south, in a rat infested madly overpopulated cesspit. Northern Gaza is going to be unlivable for years after this is over.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (i9ffA)

315 Is the time machine busted?
Posted by: Dr. T at November 02, 2023

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The frannistan is backordered.

Supply chain problems, you know.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (J2vNu)

316 The amount of people you know is minuscule relatively speaking.
Posted by: Drive
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Unlike you?

It's not a small part of Evangelicals, certainly nowhere near the comparison of the amount of klan members.

The fact you see elected members of Congress talking this way is proof that this is hardly some .0001% of the population.

Posted by: Blago at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (Q1g4n)

317 Which is why I want the killing to stop. They will send them here.
Posted by: thathalfrican
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On the good side, a minister in Scotland's government says that they can all come to live there.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (V0UuG)

318 Iran has been involved in keeping the Venezuelan oil.production going for a good while now. Our brilliant foreign policy at work again.
.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (XSTWK)

319 HOWEVER, the more biden stabs Israel and Netanyahu in the back and tries to run the war for Israel all that might change. But biden is to stupid to understand that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 02, 2023 02:01 PM (PQ4m2)

Good point. But Netanyahu will forever be tarred with the catastrophic failure of October 7th. I think it would be difficult for him to overcome that, even if he does comport himself well in the coming months.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (3Gtis)

320 296 Was a article last evening at American Thinker how everything kn Ukraine is being stolen and money pocketed, all aid is being theft
Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2023 02:09 PM (fwDg9)

Had it this morning in the MR. IIRC it was from National Pulse.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (x0n13)

321 Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:11 PM (JrojV)

one of my fave recipes

Posted by: kallisto at November 02, 2023 02:15 PM (sNFhT)

322 And Isreal should respond to Biden in kind, "when did you call for a cease-fire? I didn't hear that."

Just refuse to respond, pretend your never heard.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 02, 2023 02:15 PM (TzW+Y)

323 >> I have no idea how long the plugs last, though.

Ace has had his J Crew Messenger Bag and matching Butt Plug for over 5 years now.

Ask him.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:15 PM (myvUL)

324 If they don't want Russia to lose, why do they keep rearming Ukraine?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:12 PM (XjWYE)

hmmm reminds me of a song - money money money, MON-ey!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 02:15 PM (i9ffA)

325 Biden is a meat puppet. He doesn't even decide when to fill his Depends(TM). Who is pulling the strings ?

Posted by: Next2Nothing at November 02, 2023 02:15 PM (tA1/w)

326 2 million civilians sounds like the beginning of the what do you call a thousand lawyers on the bottom of the ocean joke

Posted by: nckate at November 02, 2023 02:15 PM (SnxUt)

327 Plenty of water in the Mediterranean Sea that the Egyptians already use to flood Hamas tunnels.

Sustainable warfare at its finest.

*plays The Rains of Castamere*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (aD39U)

328 Quite seriously these tunnels are an ideal application for robot dogs to trip booby traps and do reconnaisance.

They're doing that. There are problems with loss of signal, but I suppose a wire trailed behind would also work.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:00 PM (I/Qkd)

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Lots of ways around the loss of signal problems. Lay a fiber optic wire like TOW missiles have done for 50 years. Have the robot drop signals repeaters every x feet.

Or have the poor sorry b@st@rd robot operator follow the robot from too danged close.

Posted by: rd at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (M67KN)

329 324 Iran has been involved in keeping the Venezuelan oil.production going for a good while now. Our brilliant foreign policy at work again.
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Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (XSTWK)

Venezuela is a forward base for the IRGC. The northernmost coastal area would be a helluva good point for a missile base aimed at us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (x0n13)

330 I don’t think Israel has to commit genocide. They just need to crush Hamas to the point that Hamas will not be able to conduct any large operation for years. And during that time Israel needs to prepare properly to stop the next large operation attempt before it happens.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (MNhXM)

331 and detonate the exits when they come running out.
Posted by: BruceWayne
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Eh, not really sporting old chap. Best to use Hamas rats as popup targets for sustainable range training.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (V0UuG)

332 Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (V0UuG)

Good look to the Scots

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (vLPcA)

333 Was a article last evening at American Thinker how everything kn Ukraine is being stolen and money pocketed, all aid is being theft
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Had it this morning in the MR. IIRC it was from National Pulse.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

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And if you don't support it then the terrorists win.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden hasn't lowered flags or called for release of Jewish American hostages at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (O69GV)

334 I wonder what makes it a world war. Officially, how many countries have to be engaged? Or is there such an outline?
Posted by: washrivergal a

We currently have Hamas/Israel, Uke/Rooskie, Ajerbijani/Armenian, and god knows how many sporty areas in Africa.
Posted by: BruceWayne at November 02, 2023 02:11 PM (CIS44)

There isn't any real gauge. The Napoleonic and Seven Years Wars have both been called World Wars because of the fighting worldwide over colonial possessions.

The issue in West Africa with Niger has pretty much been wound up with France losing. Niger has raised prices of Uranium to France to world standard levels, which is some 10000 percent increase. Jeez France, you could at least hide that colonial exploitation. The plans for a pipeline through the area to the Med are suddenly no longer a slam dunk.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (eoQWY)

335 "Tailor-Made For Terrorism": Republicans Raise Alarm After Illegal Immigrants Caught With Explosive Devices

"It is painfully clear that with Joe Biden's open border policy, our country is really at an increased threat for a terrorist attack..."

Posted by: SMOD at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (RHGPo)

336 Give Gazans all of the martyrdom they claim to embrace until they choke on it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 02, 2023 02:17 PM (YIVH2)

337 334 Lots of ways around the loss of signal problems. Lay a fiber optic wire like TOW missiles have done for 50 years. Have the robot drop signals repeaters every x feet.

Or have the poor sorry b@st@rd robot operator follow the robot from too danged close.
Posted by: rd at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (M67KN)

"Look, fat. Those Bangawhore torpedos are going to Zelensky!"

- - Joey

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 02, 2023 02:17 PM (x0n13)

338 The amount of bribery from the Islamists must be enormous.
Posted by: davidt at November

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We should at least make them re-fill the strategic oil reserve.

How is Biden supposed to keep China happy if we are out of oil to send to them?

Posted by: TexasDan at November 02, 2023 02:17 PM (npbi9)

339 Foam bombs? Imma thinking Flexseal bombs and make.the tunnels giant sticky traps!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, afraid no more at November 02, 2023 02:17 PM (hirWM)

340 Everything Biden, Harris, Blinken and Kirby, et al are saying is making it clear that they say they are supporting both sides, but in deeds, they only support Hamas and the Palis.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 02, 2023 02:17 PM (MeG8a)

341 You thought Albright was bad under Clinton, you knew Clinton and Kerry were bad under Obama, but nothing compares to the shitshow of Blinken under Biden. WWIII is looking more and more likely

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 02, 2023 02:17 PM (ayQH8)

342 Somebody pointed out here yesterday that the Seven Years’ War could be considered the First World War, as there was fighting all over the globe.

You could also consider the Napoleonic Wars as a whole as a world war, if you include the related conflicts of the War of 1812 and the Latin-American Wars of Independence.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:17 PM (JrojV)

343 >>If they don't want Russia to lose, why do they keep rearming Ukraine?

I think we all know why.

https://tinyurl.com/2jbfs9ay

We've had 4 years of peace in the last few decades and there are powerful interests that would rather see us dead than peace.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2023 02:18 PM (ZLI7S)

344 Good point. But Netanyahu will forever be tarred with the catastrophic failure of October 7th. I think it would be difficult for him to overcome that, even if he does comport himself well in the coming months.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (3Gtis)

FDR never suffered any blowback for botching Dec. 7 so completely. What might insulate Netanyahu is that it appears to have been a complete systemic intelligence failure on the part of everyone there. Often when everyone is to blame, then no one is to blame.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 02:18 PM (i9ffA)

345 >>>Ooooohhhhh. A 3 front World War.

Posted by: rickb223
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Envisioning Energy Companies hiring a mercenary army as defense against Venezuelan aggression.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023 02:18 PM (qfBOF)

346 The sooner we can call it a World War, the better for our ratings and ad rates.

Posted by: Media Executives at November 02, 2023 02:18 PM (FqpQn)

347 I don’t think Israel has to commit genocide. They just need to crush Hamas to the point that Hamas will not be able to conduct any large operation for years. And during that time Israel needs to prepare properly to stop the next large operation attempt before it happens.
Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (MNhXM)

Its just that process that led us to the current massacre.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:18 PM (eoQWY)

348 Good point. But Netanyahu will forever be tarred with the catastrophic failure of October 7th. I think it would be difficult for him to overcome that, even if he does comport himself well in the coming months.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (3Gtis)

The Left in Israel have been looking for a reason to get rid of Netanyahu for years. That one is going to work.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:18 PM (MNhXM)

349 >>There is no 6,000 bed hospital anywhere in the world. Let alone a children's hospital IN gaza.

I intended to bring this up at the MoMe. We were in that conversation about who bombed the hospital and somebody asked the question "A Baptist Hospital in Gaza?"

I googled it for grins and there the article was about the 6,000 bed children's hospital. About five or six paragraphs of likely AI generated details about it. Probably 10 citations from that day as the sources.

Two hours later it was gone. Two more hours and it was back with only two paragraphs. All three timestamps had *****:53 in the time stamps for initial post, take down post and repost.

We got to see real time bee ess being thrown at us. I was raking Google in every comment as was everybody else.

Posted by: DanMan at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (8uzBS)

350 White chili - turnips instead of carrots?

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (fwDg9)

351 Wow. The world series came and went and I didn't even notice. I feel great!

Posted by: Archer at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (gmo/4)

352 "Look, fat. Those Bangawhore torpedos are going to Zelensky!"

- - Joey
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

But Daaad....you said I didn't have to go to Ukraine anymore!

Posted by: Hunter Biden at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (Czhvr)

353 Good look to the Scots
Posted by: thathalfrican

Heh. Nothing like cold, dreary, wet, and windy weather to take the starch right out of the sails of jihadis. The Orkney Islands would be just fine for the Gazans.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (V0UuG)

354 After northern Gaza is secured, only let women and children back in from southern Gaza. Tent city.

Then raze Khan Younus.

Problem solved.

Wish it were so simple.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (ufFY8)

355 God will protect the innocent, like the household of Rahab in Jericho. The rest have begged God for judgement on their own heads.
Posted by: Emmie at November 02, 2023

***
As a kid reading Bible stories, I don't recall ever reading about Rahab. I never heard of her story until Robert Heinlein had her as a character in Job: a Comedy of Justice in the '80s.

I guess "Bible stories for young people" didn't want to include the story of a prostitute, however heroic or helpful she was to General Joshua!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (J2vNu)

356 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)

357 >>FDR never suffered any blowback for botching Dec. 7 so completely. What might insulate Netanyahu is that it appears to have been a complete systemic intelligence failure on the part of everyone there. Often when everyone is to blame, then no one is to blame.

9/11. Bush was reelected.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (ZLI7S)

358 Heh. Nothing like cold, dreary, wet, and windy weather to take the starch right out of the sails of jihadis. The Orkney Islands would be just fine for the Gazans.
Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023

***
I suggested the South Orkneys and South Georgia Island. The jihadis can hunt and kill penguins and seals.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (J2vNu)

359 If you don't add beans to chili, then you are a 1%'er who can afford beef. Beans are just a protein stretcher.
Posted by: rickb223

One sees chili contests in DFW where contestants brag about no beans. Real chili and gourmet chili are two different things, apparently.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (jiuRZ)

360 In all seriousness, Israel should tell Joe Biden and his administration to sit n' spin or play a nice rousing game of Hide and GFY.

Take care of business. Hamas declared war, so let them have war.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

361 > nothing compares to the shitshow of Blinken under Biden.

There's a reason Blinken was home for Halloween and not in the Middle East. Even Biden's handlers know he's useless.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (0N1h0)

362 >>Or just, you know, flood them. With sea water. Of which there is a lot, right next door. Most IDF troops can see the big lake as they turn their head to watch the sunset.

IF the tunnels didn't have a decent drainage system. Which it necessarily must, located as it is. You can't dig tunnels, below water table, without already addressing the flooding issue.

Could it be overwhelmed? Maybe. But I am not a combat engineer.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (myvUL)

363 Progressive journalist shocks absolutely nobody by claiming conservative Christians and MAGA are worse than Hamas

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Just a taste . . .

While the world burns, Johnson and the MAGA wing of the Republican Party — which seems to have swallowed the evangelical movement while also embracing it (a T-1000 morphing into Sarah Connor is just about the right image) — is embracing the darkest verses of the Bible, apparently pushing for apocalypse with an enthusiasm only rivaled by Saul's slaughter of Christians before he changed his name to Paul.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (FVME7)

AW, this is absolutely nothing new, as you've written. I remember an episode of This American Life where Ira Glass reported that there was a farmer that wanted to breed a red heifer in Israel, to speed along the End Times. Stupid stuff, that TAL probably edited to make evangelicals look dumb - and also crypto anti-Semitic (the liberal two-fer du jour).

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (tSe6Z)

364 347 You thought Albright was bad under Clinton, you knew Clinton and Kerry were bad under Obama, but nothing compares to the shitshow of Blinken under Biden. WWIII is looking more and more likely

Posted by: Smell the Glove
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All these little places, Guyana too, are OK.
The bad time is US, Russia, China, as long as these three don't directly tangle the world will go on.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (qfBOF)

365 The Left in Israel have been looking for a reason to get rid of Netanyahu for years. That one is going to work.
Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:18 PM (MNhXM)

Except that Hamas has cut the Left's throats more than anyone else over there. Who is their leader? They have none. Benny Gantz might be a candidate, but he's not left, and he's already a part of the current govm't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 02:22 PM (i9ffA)

366 362 IF the tunnels didn't have a decent drainage system. Which it necessarily must, located as it is. You can't dig tunnels, below water table, without already addressing the flooding issue.

Could it be overwhelmed? Maybe. But I am not a combat engineer.
Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (myvUL)

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So, you're assuming that the tunnels are up to code?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

367 346 Everything Biden, Harris, Blinken and Kirby, et al are saying is making it clear that they say they are supporting both sides, but in deeds, they only support Hamas and the Palis.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 02, 2023 02:17 PM (MeG8a)

++++
Exactly.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 02, 2023 02:22 PM (FL9yc)

368 The Left in Israel have been looking for a reason to get rid of Netanyahu for years. That one is going to work.

===

The left is responsible for 10/7. The likes of Ehud Barak. The incompetence of whoever was tasked with internal intelligence, the malevolence from outside of Israel that made Israel live next to Islamonazis.

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (Aoizk)

369 355 Wolfus, did they include the story of David and Bathsheba? Wonder how they would’ve sanitized that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (JrojV)

370 Israel should ignore Biden's call for a pause. If Israel doesn't finish the job now and kill every Hamas solider and completely expel all the rest of the Palis from Gaza, they're just asking for more attacks.

Posted by: Archer at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (gmo/4)

371 If Joe wants Bibi to temporarily pause the IDFs assault, Joe needs to define what must be achieved before he agrees to let Bibi resume the assault. Joe will not do this; he wants to control the length of the pause. If it's up to Joe, the pause will not end. Bibi and every person in Israel knows this.

Posted by: Gref at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (5fDan)

372 Was a article last evening at American Thinker how everything kn Ukraine is being stolen and money pocketed, all aid is being theft
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Had it this morning in the MR. IIRC it was from National Pulse.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

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And if you don't support it then the terrorists win.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden hasn't lowered flags or called for release of Jewish American hostages at November 02, 2023 02:16 PM (O69GV)

Well not everything is stolen, just that everyone from Commander in Chief (both ours and Ukraine's) and every officer and supply sergeant are taking their 10 percent. Enough gets through to provide target practice for the Russians and to keep the poor grunts on the wrong end of a missile or artillery barrage in a trench on the front line.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (eoQWY)

373 >>So, you're assuming that the tunnels are up to code?

No. I am assuming these retards already flooded themselves out enough times to have at least a modicum of drainage systems/pumps installed.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (myvUL)

374
Get past the FBI and SS security clearance, suck enough MSM management dangling participles, get the attention of a black moron lesbian with a mop on her head, grovel pathetically and agree with insane and contradictory daily change of story and then, Mr. Ace, you may be called a JOURNALIST!

But no questions for the big guy until you get your picture on a cheat sheet.

Posted by: Auspex at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (j4U/Z)

375 312 Hey, Durbin. How about a ceasefire in Chicago?

I wish it were as obvious to everyone as it is to me that the democrats ALWAYS protect violent murderers from Antifa to BLM to Hamas.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 02, 2023 02:24 PM (bVfY0)

376 Good point. But Netanyahu will forever be tarred with the catastrophic failure of October 7th. I think it would be difficult for him to overcome that, even if he does comport himself well in the coming months.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (3Gtis)

The Left in Israel have been looking for a reason to get rid of Netanyahu for years. That one is going to work.
Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:18 PM (MNhXM)
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Can he point to a series of decisions and policies of the Left that led to Oct 7? Seems to me one party didn't do this. Time for a collective deep breath by all Israelis and recommitment to Never Again.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 02, 2023 02:24 PM (yBNyl)

377 IDF has "unique solutions " for tunnels.

Posted by: runner at November 02, 2023 02:24 PM (Aoizk)

378 Maybe the lesson people are learning is Islamophobia is a rational reaction to people who support the beheading and baking of babies.

But what do I know, I'm a product of Greco-Roman Judeo-Christian culture, not a quasi-pagan death cult.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 02, 2023 02:24 PM (LaNzR)

379 Could it be overwhelmed? Maybe. But I am not a combat engineer.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (myvUL)

It can be overwhelmed very easily. Those pumps are built to handle small quantities of water seeping in...not the amount that can be channeled very easily with a couple of days of bulldozer time.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 02:24 PM (3Gtis)

380 iiirc, North Koreans are the ones who helped the inbreeding muzzies build these newer tunnel systems.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:24 PM (myvUL)

381 I guess "Bible stories for young people" didn't want to include the story of a prostitute, however heroic or helpful she was to General Joshua!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (J2vNu)

She is also mentioned in Hebrews and James as praiseworthy for her actions and her faith in God.

Posted by: Emmie at November 02, 2023 02:24 PM (Sf2cq)

382 373 >>So, you're assuming that the tunnels are up to code?

No. I am assuming these retards already flooded themselves out enough times to have at least a modicum of drainage systems/pumps installed.
Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (myvUL)

=======

Theory:

There are three working sump pumps in all of Gaza, and two of them already have parts taken out of them used for missiles.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

383 IF the tunnels didn't have a decent drainage system. Which it necessarily must, located as it is. You can't dig tunnels, below water table, without already addressing the flooding issue.

Could it be overwhelmed? Maybe. But I am not a combat engineer.
Posted by: garrett
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The Egyptians have been doing this for some time as they don't want the trouble that Gazans bring there. Since the entire tunnel structure is below sea level, the difficult part is keeping the sea from seeping in and to do that you need pumps, lots of them. There is a famous tin mine (now closed and a museum) in Cornwall and the pumps necessary to keep the sea out are massive and they gotta have power to function.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:25 PM (V0UuG)

384 Heh. Nothing like cold, dreary, wet, and windy weather to take the starch right out of the sails of jihadis. The Orkney Islands would be just fine for the Gazans.

Novaya Zemlya has lots of available land. One place in particular is quite smooth and glassy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novaya_Zemlya

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:25 PM (I/Qkd)

385 >>It can be overwhelmed very easily. Those pumps are built to handle small quantities of water seeping in...not the amount that can be channeled very easily with a couple of days of bulldozer time.

Then I assume the IDF will employ that tactic, eventually.

I am just saying that it is not necessarily a slam dunk solution or the Israelis would be ready to employ it.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:26 PM (myvUL)

386
I don't think you need to flood the tunnels, just find as many as you can and fill them with dirt. They're basically pretty shallow before they make a turn. Put a listening device inside and wait. Keep looking, keep finding, keep filling. When listening device becomes quiet it's over. Then wait a couple of weeks to be sure.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 02, 2023 02:26 PM (enJYY)

387 Good point. But Netanyahu will forever be tarred with the catastrophic failure of October 7th. I think it would be difficult for him to overcome that, even if he does comport himself well in the coming months.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 02:14 PM (3Gtis)

FDR never suffered any blowback for botching Dec. 7 so completely. What might insulate Netanyahu is that it appears to have been a complete systemic intelligence failure on the part of everyone there. Often when everyone is to blame, then no one is to blame.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 02:18 PM (i9ffA)

Netanyahu is finished after this. And I think he knows it. The question is will he have the balls to follow thru now, expecially knowing it will be his last hurrah. To do so, he will have to stand up nto biden and say NO. We will see

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (PQ4m2)

388 I am just saying that it is not necessarily a slam dunk solution or the Israelis would be ready to employ it.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:26 PM (myvUL)

Agreed. It will obviously kill everyone in every tunnel that floods, and that includes the hostages.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (3Gtis)

389 The real trick will be if Hamas is severely mauled where do the Gazans go?
Posted by: Oldcat

I don't care.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 has a BABY! at November 02, 2023 02:04 PM (LBzpt)

Funny that. Neither does Egypt. Israel isn't stopping those in Gaza from going anywhere else other than Israel. Egypt is stopping them from leaving Gaza.
Posted by: Common Sense at November 02, 2023 02:13 PM (pr+qD)

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Wherever they go, the Palestinians will cause hate, discontent and civil war. Ask the Jordanians about Black September 1970, ask the Lebanese who started the civil war in 1975. Ask the Kuwaitis about Palestinians during the Iraqi Invasion of 1990-1991. Ask Clinton about the Palestinian Peace Deal. Ask George W Shrub about his try at the Palestinian Peace Treaty. Ask Ariel Sharon about his Gaza Strip Peace Agreement.

Wherever the Palestinians go? Dar al Harb follows. Even in the Islamic house of Dar al Islam.

Posted by: rd at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (hSMZT)

390 I suggested the South Orkneys and South Georgia Island. The jihadis can hunt and kill penguins and seals.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Well, lotsa distance makes good neighbors as long they kept them there. In about one thousand years, they might even forget the jihadi idea.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (V0UuG)

391 If Joe wants Bibi to temporarily pause the IDFs assault, Joe needs to define what must be achieved before he agrees to let Bibi resume the assault. Joe will not do this; he wants to control the length of the pause. If it's up to Joe, the pause will not end. Bibi and every person in Israel knows this.
Posted by: Gref at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (5fDan)

Israel can just say "America was in Afghanistan for 20 years after 9/11. There was no pause. There was no 'equal response' demands. While the war was handled poorly by the Americans, they were able to attack the Taliban at will wherever they found them. So it will be with Hamas."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

392 Dear lawd, another freakin' Planet Of The Apes movie coming next year?

Jeeeeez...

Posted by: Robert at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (0bigV)

393 384 IIRC, Novaya Zemlya is where the Soviets/Russians dumped their decommissioned nuclear subs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (JrojV)

394 Wolfus, did they include the story of David and Bathsheba? Wonder how they would’ve sanitized that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023

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I don't recall! This was a large format hardbound book with pen-and-ink illustrations. I know there was the story of Elijah, and pretty sure there was Ruth, and I guess they couldn't skip Abraham and Isaac. Certainly there was Joseph and his brothers, and Hadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the fiery furnace.

Then it moved on to the New Testament with the Good Samaritan and the other events we're most familiar with.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:28 PM (J2vNu)

395 I guess "Bible stories for young people" didn't want to include the story of a prostitute, however heroic or helpful she was to General Joshua!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

--

Directly mentioned in the geneological line leading to the birth of Christ.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden hasn't lowered flags or called for release of Jewish American hostages at November 02, 2023 02:28 PM (O69GV)

396 Theory:

There are three working sump pumps in all of Gaza, and two of them already have parts taken out of them used for missiles.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

++++

LOL, and most likely true.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 02, 2023 02:28 PM (FL9yc)

397 1. The tunnels are below sea level.

2. Feed Reuters and Biden lines of BS to distract them away from the actual military action.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023 02:28 PM (qfBOF)

398 392 Dear lawd, another freakin' Planet Of The Apes movie coming next year?

Jeeeeez...
Posted by: Robert at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (0bigV)

========

From the man who brought you The Maze Runner trilogy.

Masterpieces just waiting to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

399 There is a famous tin mine (now closed and a museum) in Cornwall and the pumps necessary to keep the sea out are massive and they gotta have power to function.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:25 PM (V0UuG)

I believe you just pointed out the biggest drawback to the plan - the pumps have to be massive, and must be supplied with a whole lot of power. Not to mention a 36" conduit to the sea. None of those are very easy to set up in a war zone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 02:28 PM (i9ffA)

400 386
I don't think you need to flood the tunnels, just find as many as you can and fill them with dirt. They're basically pretty shallow before they make a turn. Put a listening device inside and wait. Keep looking, keep finding, keep filling. When listening device becomes quiet it's over. Then wait a couple of weeks to be sure.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
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You need a lot of fill dirt and if you blow them up, you will cause some massive sinkholes as the estimates are about 300 km or so of tunnels in a very small area.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:29 PM (V0UuG)

401 IF the tunnels didn't have a decent drainage system. Which it necessarily must, located as it is. You can't dig tunnels, below water table, without already addressing the flooding issue.

Could it be overwhelmed? Maybe. But I am not a combat engineer.
Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:21 PM (myvUL)

Gaza's basically a beach, so any drainage would have to be artificial and if the pumps are damaged or stop then you have a problem. If a hole opens up the inflow will also overwhelm the pumping.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:29 PM (eoQWY)

402 We are willing to agree to an immediate cessation to hostilities once Hamas offers the unconditional surrender of their government and armed fighters. Relief supplies will immediately be available for all Palestinians in need, and only those guilty of crimes will be punished.

If a Native American tribe, under the pretense of restoring their homeland, launched an attack in the US, killing an equivalent number of innocent men, women and children (in the 10s of thousands), Biden and the American people would be outraged, and not agree to a "pause" in the conflict.

Posted by: Bibi's response at November 02, 2023 02:29 PM (Czhvr)

403 Dear lawd, another freakin' Planet Of The Apes movie coming next year?
_________

It's a training film for protests in certain Blue State cities.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 02:29 PM (lf83v)

404 IIRC, Novaya Zemlya is where the Soviets/Russians dumped their decommissioned nuclear subs.

Good. Prefab housing for Hamas is a bonus. It's not like those peawits could get the nuclear fuel out without killing themselves.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:29 PM (I/Qkd)

405 ‘It’s Coming’: Florida GOP Elected Officials to Turn On DeSantis, Endorse Trump

Posted by: Lift Boots R 4 Queers at November 02, 2023 02:29 PM (l10hq)

406 383 IF the tunnels didn't have a decent drainage system. Which it necessarily must, located as it is. You can't dig tunnels, below water table, without already addressing the flooding issue.

Could it be overwhelmed? Maybe. But I am not a combat engineer.
Posted by: garrett
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The Egyptians have been doing this for some time as they don't want the trouble that Gazans bring there. Since the entire tunnel structure is below sea level, the difficult part is keeping the sea from seeping in and to do that you need pumps, lots of them. There is a famous tin mine (now closed and a museum) in Cornwall and the pumps necessary to keep the sea out are massive and they gotta have power to function.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:25 PM (V0UuG)

I expect the IDF has been talking with mining experts in the West for many years. The people who dig/construct underground mines will know best what the vulnerabilities are.

Posted by: Gref at November 02, 2023 02:30 PM (5fDan)

407 Netanyahu is finished after this. And I think he knows it. The question is will he have the balls to follow thru now, expecially knowing it will be his last hurrah. To do so, he will have to stand up nto biden and say NO. We will see
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (PQ4m2)

If he can fix this, he'll finally have lived up to the legacy that his late brother left for him.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 02, 2023 02:30 PM (tSe6Z)

408 Israel in UN/Geneva | #BringThemHome @IsraelinGeneva 1h
It is convenient to look away, isn't it @WHO?

The proof that Hamas HQ is under Shifa Hospital, and that it uses health facilities as shields for their terrorist activities are widely public. If you want to protect civilians, your responsibility is to clearly condemn Hamas for endangering them and health workers.

And to be very clear: Israel is at war with Hamas, the "de-facto authority" who has had effective control of the Strip since 2007. As such, the laws of armed conflict apply. No coordination is obligated, nor possible with Hamas in this case.

Israel is willing to discuss any possible humanitarian assistance with @WHO and other international actors. Our only targets are Hamas terrorists.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023 02:30 PM (krqg6)

409 The left is responsible for 10/7. The likes of Ehud Barak. The incompetence of whoever was tasked with internal intelligence, the malevolence from outside of Israel that made Israel live next to Islamonazis.
Posted by: runner at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (Aoizk)

Agree but Netanyahu is the head of state and the Left are masters at shifting blame. Bush is mostly blamed for 9/11 .

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:30 PM (MNhXM)

410 >>So, you assume that. Ever worked underground ? Ever seen what a "drainage system" looks like in a mine ?

Yes. I have.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:30 PM (myvUL)

411 If Joe wants Bibi to temporarily pause the IDFs assault, Joe needs to define what must be achieved before he agrees to let Bibi resume the assault. Joe will not do this; he wants to control the length of the pause. If it's up to Joe, the pause will not end. Bibi and every person in Israel knows this.

If they hold back supplies and munitions from Israel, they'll be exposed (more so) and if they intercede they'll be exposed (more so). This is just an attempt to be seen as important or consequential. They're between a rock and a hard spot.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:30 PM (YRsIm)

412 I believe you just pointed out the biggest drawback to the plan - the pumps have to be massive, and must be supplied with a whole lot of power. Not to mention a 36" conduit to the sea. None of those are very easy to set up in a war zone.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Easier to pump downwards as you are working with gravity and pressure than from down to up.

Water wants to seek the lowest level and it takes quite a bit of power to reverse that. To flood, simply build a big ditch which is trivial in terms of combat engineering.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:31 PM (V0UuG)

413 there was a radio poll this morning, that asked "do you want to have separate aid packages to Ukraine and Gazans, or one aid package" or something like that.

Umm. you forgot another choice: NO AID PACKAGES AT ALL FOR EITHER.

Posted by: Question authority bumper sticker at November 02, 2023 02:31 PM (Rbu5d)

414 I guess "Bible stories for young people" didn't want to include the story of a prostitute, however heroic or helpful she was to General Joshua!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (J2vNu)

Now there's a topic for discussion.

Why are so many Old Testament prophets either married to prostitutes or somehow aided by and beholden to them?

Posted by: Robert at November 02, 2023 02:32 PM (A8nJV)

415 Even belt-fed has a few micro-seconds between rounds.

That's longer than Hamas gave the infants so that's good enough for them.

Posted by: DaveA at November 02, 2023 02:32 PM (FhXTo)

416 Ever worked underground ? Ever seen what a "drainage system" looks like in a mine ?
____________

I think these qualify as pick-up lines in certain West Virginia bars.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 02:32 PM (lf83v)

417 @405 Novaya Zemlya is where they dropped the Tsar Bomb. Probably not much housing left

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 02, 2023 02:32 PM (ayQH8)

418 Not only has that sumbitch Biden called for a "humanitarian pause" he and the Kackler have announced the first national effort to stamp out Islamophobia.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 02, 2023 02:32 PM (cB7nX)

419 I guess "Bible stories for young people" didn't want to include the story of a prostitute, however heroic or helpful she was to General Joshua!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

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Directly mentioned in the genealogical line leading to the birth of Christ.

As are Bathsheba the adultress and Ruth the Moabitess.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:32 PM (JrojV)

420 They will ignore biden.

Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at November 02, 2023 02:33 PM (W+TLY)

421 You need a lot of fill dirt and if you blow them up, you will cause some massive sinkholes as the estimates are about 300 km or so of tunnels in a very small area.
Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:29 PM (V0UuG)

In the strike against Jabaliyah a couple days ago, the first stories reported how residents reported seeing massive sinkholes opening up after the original explosion was over, as there were secondary explosions underground. After about 12 hours those stories were scrubbed and suddenly they were saying that the holes were there because Israel fired 7 or 8 missiles right into a peaceful civilian refugee camp.

yeah I think they got it right the first time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 02, 2023 02:33 PM (i9ffA)

422 As a kid reading Bible stories, I don't recall ever reading about Rahab. I never heard of her story until Robert Heinlein had her as a character in Job: a Comedy of Justice in the '80s.

I guess "Bible stories for young people" didn't want to include the story of a prostitute, however heroic or helpful she was to General Joshua!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (J2vNu)

As a little kid in Sunday school back in the 50's we read the story of Rahab several times.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 02, 2023 02:33 PM (qrIrs)

423 wOW. that reporterette on CNN (with Durbin) has had 'WAY too much botox and fillers. Obvious even on a smallish screen of my tablet.

Posted by: Question authority bumper sticker at November 02, 2023 02:33 PM (Rbu5d)

424 Israel can just say "America was in Afghanistan for 20 years after 9/11. There was no pause. There was no 'equal response' demands. While the war was handled poorly by the Americans, they were able to attack the Taliban at will wherever they found them. So it will be with Hamas."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

Better just to say that the return of all hostages and the terrorists who planned committed the outrages on civilians must be given up for trial - even let the UN do it. Get the so called 'peacekeepers' pressuring Hamas for a change.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:34 PM (eoQWY)

425 Field marshall general Biden will lead Israel!!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 02, 2023 01:48 PM (QqMaK)

Hamas counters with General Corn Pop.

Game over.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 02, 2023 02:34 PM (h6e1t)

426 Novaya Zemlya is where they dropped the Tsar Bomb. Probably not much housing left

*Considers making joke about explaining the joke. Thinks better of it.*

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:34 PM (I/Qkd)

427 Why are so many Old Testament prophets either married to prostitutes or somehow aided by and beholden to them?
_________

Yes. But no gays.

Even Jesus was good with prostitutes and lepers and tax collectors and thieves, but you never saw him preaching to gays.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 02:34 PM (lf83v)

428
Novaya Zemlya has lots of available land. One place in particular is quite smooth and glassy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novaya_Zemlya
Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023

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Average high temp there in January is 12 degrees F., 50 in July. Record Jan. low is -35. I think they'll be too busy just keeping warm to worry about bombing anybody.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:34 PM (J2vNu)

429 I expect the IDF has been talking with mining experts in the West for many years. The people who dig/construct underground mines will know best what the vulnerabilities are.
Posted by: Gref
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Heck, given the massive amounts of reserves, the IDF probably already have soldiers that are mine engineers in civilian life.

My guess is that public and diplomatic pressure holds the Israelis to an unreasonable standard of not writing off the hostages and not being seen to drown Hamas rats.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:35 PM (V0UuG)

430 Israel can just say "America was in Afghanistan for 20 years after 9/11. There was no pause. There was no 'equal response' demands. While the war was handled poorly by the Americans, they were able to attack the Taliban at will wherever they found them. So it will be with Hamas."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 02, 2023 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)
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Pointing out American hypocrisy not usually a particularly fruitful strategy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 02:35 PM (ELpxa)

431 *Considers making joke about explaining the joke. Thinks better of it.*

Damn, I'm drawing a complete blank about the name of the guy who explains jokes in caps. Help me out here.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:35 PM (I/Qkd)

432 Rahab was later given in marriage to Caleb, the only other spy besides Joshua to speak out in favor of going into the Promised Land, so she must've mended her whore ways.

Maybe Rahab went to rehab?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:35 PM (JrojV)

433 Not only has that sumbitch Biden called for a "humanitarian pause" he and the Kackler have announced the first national effort to stamp out Islamophobia.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 02, 2023 02:32 PM (cB7nX)

With Kamala in charge it seems likely all Muslims in the US will convert to Christianity.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:36 PM (eoQWY)

434 Whoever thinks the usual playbook is going to be followed is sorely mistaken. The Israeli population wants Hamas demolished.
Posted by: kallisto at November 02, 2023 01:55 PM (sNFhT)

The basic assumption of Israel was that pogroms and another holocaust would never be perpetuated on the Jews. To accede to this is to accede to the end of Israel and possibly the end of Judaism.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 02, 2023 02:36 PM (xhaym)

435 Damn, I'm drawing a complete blank about the name of the guy who explains jokes in caps. Help me out here.

BEN ROETHLISBERGER!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:36 PM (JrojV)

436 Damn, I'm drawing a complete blank about the name of the guy who explains jokes in caps. Help me out here.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:35 PM (I/Qkd)
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IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE WRITES IN ALL CAPS AND IS ALSO A MEME AND THAT SHOULD RESULT IN EASIER COMMITMENT TO MEMORY!

Posted by: WHO THE HELL AM I??!?!?!?!? at November 02, 2023 02:36 PM (ELpxa)

437
"Tunnels? Back in Cu Chi while I was in the deep shit all I had was a M1911, a pack of Luckies, and a flashlight that didn't work. No shit, jack, the cong knew my name, and feared it."

-Joe my word as a Biden

Posted by: Auspex at November 02, 2023 02:36 PM (j4U/Z)

438 19 Egypt and Jordan will not accept any palis. Joe is going to bring them all here.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 02, 2023 01:34 PM (u73oe)

That's the plan, says Stan.

Posted by: Question authority bumper sticker at November 02, 2023 02:36 PM (Rbu5d)

439 Twenty sheckels. Same as in town.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 02, 2023 02:36 PM (lf83v)

440 Considers making joke about explaining the joke. Thinks better of it.*

Damn, I'm drawing a complete blank about the name of the guy who explains jokes in caps. Help me out here.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:35 PM (I/Qkd)

Hint . BEN

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:37 PM (MNhXM)

441 *Considers making joke about explaining the joke. Thinks better of it.*

Damn, I'm drawing a complete blank about the name of the guy who explains jokes in caps. Help me out here.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:35 PM (I/Qkd)

Ben Roethlisberger. QB for Pittsburgh until a few years ago.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:37 PM (eoQWY)

442 BEN ROETHLISBERGER![/i

Dang it, I couldn't get Brad Raffensperger out of my head.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:37 PM (I/Qkd)

443 437 Damn, I'm drawing a complete blank about the name of the guy who explains jokes in caps. Help me out here.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 02, 2023 02:35 PM (I/Qkd)
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IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE WRITES IN ALL CAPS AND IS ALSO A MEME AND THAT SHOULD RESULT IN EASIER COMMITMENT TO MEMORY!
Posted by: WHO THE HELL AM I??!?!?!?!? at November 02, 2023 02:36 PM (ELpxa)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

444 Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:34 PM (eoQWY)

Best not to say anything. Just do what needs to be done. There will be plenty of time to talk when all of Hamas is dead.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:37 PM (YRsIm)

445 yeah I think they got it right the first time.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Used to be the first reports were the most inaccurate. With all the massaging of facts to make them most palatable to the mainstream narrative, I find a lot of details and stories go missing after about 24 hrs. That is probably the peak wait time nowadays to get an approximation of reality.

So don't believe the first reports or the last reports but the ones close to the one day old mark.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:38 PM (V0UuG)

446 Interesting if see if Congress backs Biden up on the cease fire.

Posted by: Goatweed at November 02, 2023 02:38 PM (0Q/6W)

447 ++++
Pointing out American hypocrisy not usually a particularly fruitful strategy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 02:35 PM (ELpxa)

They really shouldn't care at this point.

America has been stuffing things up Israeli butts each time this happens. Call the admin out for the hypocrites they are.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 02, 2023 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)

448 @426 Archimedes did not see your earlier post. Well put.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 02, 2023 02:38 PM (ayQH8)

449 Have there been any Mannix girls today? Arterton? Soap floozie wardrobe updates?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:39 PM (JrojV)

450 Use the D-9s to push up a berm around the cordoned area of the city. Fill bermed area with water.

Water will find and fill the tunnels.

Tell the world you are making the Gazans a New Venice.

Think of how much tourist money they will rake in.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 02, 2023 02:39 PM (cOq4q)

451 When I forget a name I go through the alphabet in my head. Funny how just picturing the letter or sounding it out in your head triggers immediately the name. At least for me.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:39 PM (MNhXM)

452 Dang it, I couldn't get Brad Raffensperger out of my head.
Posted by: Archimedes

The correct spelling is Ratshitburger.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:39 PM (V0UuG)

453 As long as Israel does the opposite of what we're telling them to do they should be fine.

Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2023 02:39 PM (JwHpX)

454 When I forget a name I go through the alphabet in my head. Funny how just picturing the letter or sounding it out in your head triggers immediately the name. At least for me.

I do the same thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:40 PM (JrojV)

455 452 Use the D-9s to push up a berm around the cordoned area of the city. Fill bermed area with water.

Water will find and fill the tunnels.

Tell the world you are making the Gazans a New Venice.

Think of how much tourist money they will rake in.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Enjoy the singing murderous gondoliers of new Gaza!!! Just like Italy, without the food, civilization, or hospitality.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:40 PM (V0UuG)

456 440 Twenty sheckels. Same as in town.
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You pay retail??

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023 02:40 PM (krqg6)

457 John Ratzenberger.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:41 PM (JrojV)

458 As a little kid in Sunday school back in the 50's we read the story of Rahab several times.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 02, 2023

***
Did the teacher actually come out and say the word for her profession?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:41 PM (J2vNu)

459 Twenty shekels. Same as in town.

Posted by: amy schumer at November 02, 2023 02:41 PM (krqg6)

460 388 I am just saying that it is not necessarily a slam dunk solution or the Israelis would be ready to employ it.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:26 PM (myvUL)

Agreed. It will obviously kill everyone in every tunnel that floods, and that includes the hostages.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Their advantage over us is our civility.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023 02:41 PM (qfBOF)

461 When I forget a name I go through the alphabet in my head. Funny how just picturing the letter or sounding it out in your head triggers immediately the name. At least for me.
Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:39 PM (MNhXM)

I've done that with phone numbers 1 2 3 4 oh its 5051234

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:42 PM (eoQWY)

462 Twenty sheckels. Same as in town.
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You pay retail??
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023

***
Shekels Greene and Eddie Money starring in:

Cold Cash McCall!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:42 PM (J2vNu)

463 I have noticed that certain folks seem to extremely pissed that there is even a thought of voting for expenditure/aid packages individually. This would seem to be a very effective tool if properly leveraged. I guess team GOP will just ignore it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:42 PM (YRsIm)

464 It’s not the healthy that need healing.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:42 PM (MNhXM)

465 Have there been any Mannix girls today? Arterton? Soap floozie wardrobe updates?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:39 PM (JrojV)

Nada. Mannix has found us wanting and undeserving of fine sleazy wiminz. We are forsaken.

*Laments*

Posted by: Robert at November 02, 2023 02:43 PM (A8nJV)

466 Did the teacher actually come out and say the word for her profession?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:41 PM (J2vNu)

"Lady of the night".

Posted by: spindrift at November 02, 2023 02:43 PM (Ngor4)

467 Directly mentioned in the genealogical line leading to the birth of Christ.

As are Bathsheba the adultress and Ruth the Moabitess.

--

There's a good sermon, and it's probably easy to find/read online, about the scarlet thread woven through the Bible. It's worth finding.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden hasn't lowered flags or called for release of Jewish American hostages at November 02, 2023 02:43 PM (O69GV)

468 I thought GLOBAL WARMING was the GREATEST THREAT ??? So why do I care if BiBi wipes the Hamas off the face of the Earth ????

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 02, 2023 02:43 PM (rcLES)

469 455 As long as Israel does the opposite of what we're telling them to do they should be fine.
Posted by: Weasel
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Dunno. Militaries have gotten out of the practice of total war but history teaches us that total war often gives generations of peace because war was so horrible that no one wants to repeat it in living memory. The Napoleonic Wars gave Europe more or less 100 years before WWI. Ditto for the Hundred Years War and even WWII gave us roughly 75 years or so of significant peace around the globe.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:43 PM (V0UuG)

470 hekels Greene and Eddie Money starring in:

Cold Cash McCall!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhe

With 2 tickets to paradise.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 02, 2023 02:44 PM (R4t5M)

471 have noticed that certain folks seem to extremely pissed that there is even a thought of voting for expenditure/aid packages individually. This would seem to be a very effective tool if properly leveraged. I guess team GOP will just ignore it.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:42 PM (YRsIm)

The new speaker promised he would fight for it. We’ll see.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:44 PM (MNhXM)

472 ***
Did the teacher actually come out and say the word for her profession?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:41 PM (J2vNu)
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Are you shilling for sexing little children?

Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023 02:44 PM (qfBOF)

473 The Israel / Palestine conflict is a microcosm of the greatest struggle in history: white European colonialism of non-Western spaces. They've taken enough of the world, and need to be driven back!

Posted by: Sid at November 02, 2023 02:44 PM (ytAal)

474 Israel must comply with the UN mandate to protect all Hamas Gay and Transgender Terrorists trapped in the tunnels......

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 02, 2023 02:44 PM (rcLES)

475 The left is responsible for 10/7. The likes of Ehud Barak. The incompetence of whoever was tasked with internal intelligence, the malevolence from outside of Israel that made Israel live next to Islamonazis.
Posted by: runner at November 02, 2023 02:23 PM (Aoizk)

I am not saying the left in Israel is not also responsible. The gov across all spectrums is responsible.

But Netanyahu has been the PM for the better part of 16 years and so the full weight of this disaster falls squarely on his shoulders

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (PQ4m2)

476 Agreed. It will obviously kill everyone in every tunnel that floods, and that includes the hostages.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Their advantage over us is our civility.
Posted by: Braenyard

That hamstrings us every time.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (XjWYE)

477 I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

I think the joke started on the internet as a transcript of chat room for NFL QBs were they would talk about the last week and Ben would say something clueless in all caps when it was his turn.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (eoQWY)

478 474 have noticed that certain folks seem to extremely pissed that there is even a thought of voting for expenditure/aid packages individually. This would seem to be a very effective tool if properly leveraged. I guess team GOP will just ignore it.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:42 PM (YRsIm)

The new speaker promised he would fight for it. We’ll see.
Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:44 PM (MNhXM)

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The new speaker will put up a valiant bit of failure theater and then force through an omnibus CR that funds everything because, gosh darn it, we have to keep the government's lights on no matter what.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (GBKbO)

479 If Hamas wouldn't have videoed and posted on the internet there probably wouldn't be the outrage we're seeing from many people. It would probably be deemed as just another rocket attack and incursion. Business as usual, so to speak.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (mGiP7)

480 Did the teacher actually come out and say the word for her profession?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023
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"Lady of the night".
Posted by: spindrift at November 02, 2023

***

When I was nine, that would have made me think she was a vampire

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (J2vNu)

481 465 I have noticed that certain folks seem to extremely pissed that there is even a thought of voting for expenditure/aid packages individually. This would seem to be a very effective tool if properly leveraged. I guess team GOP will just ignore it.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Senate GOPe is terrified their ass will be hanging out to dry by the House. Johnson so far is standing firm. Remains to be seen whether he can ram it down the throat of the paid Ukie supporting GOPe members.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (V0UuG)

482 When I forget a name I go through the alphabet in my head. Funny how just picturing the letter or sounding it out in your head triggers immediately the name. At least for me.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:39 PM (MNhXM)

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Yep. I do this all the time. I also use that tactic when trying to solve crossword puzzles, and it frequently works.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 02:46 PM (71VWD)

483 471 455 As long as Israel does the opposite of what we're telling them to do they should be fine.
Posted by: Weasel
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Dunno. Militaries have gotten out of the practice of total war but history teaches us that total war often gives generations of peace because war was so horrible that no one wants to repeat it in living memory. The Napoleonic Wars gave Europe more or less 100 years before WWI. Ditto for the Hundred Years War and even WWII gave us roughly 75 years or so of significant peace around the globe.
Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:43 PM (V0UuG)
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My point exactly. Continue to prosecute the offensive until the objective is met, and tell Joe to fuck the hell off.

Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2023 02:46 PM (JwHpX)

484 Did the teacher actually come out and say the word for her profession?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023
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Are you shilling for sexing little children?
Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023

***
What???

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:46 PM (J2vNu)

485 Have there been any Mannix girls today? Arterton? Soap floozie wardrobe updates?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:39 PM (JrojV)

best I can do

https://tinyurl.com/4vj44626

Posted by: Kindltot at November 02, 2023 02:46 PM (xhaym)

486 Nada. Mannix has found us wanting and undeserving of fine sleazy wiminz. We are forsaken.

*Laments*

You decide.... https://tinyurl.com/24un86w4

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:46 PM (YRsIm)

487 120 Piss & salt. Piss & salt.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 02, 2023 01:38 PM (XjWYE)

Save some for Fauci's grave when the reaper finally calls.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 02, 2023 01:47 PM (N39Ws)
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We can all go to his grave site, eat lots of salty chips and drink beer. When the call comes then piss-with-salt.

Posted by: Ciampino - A 50 Cent concert featuring Nickelback costs 45 cents! at November 02, 2023 02:47 PM (qfLjt)

488 The new speaker will put up a valiant bit of failure theater and then force through an omnibus CR that funds everything because, gosh darn it, we have to keep the government's lights on no matter what.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Omnibus is not the same as a CR. Omnibus sets new baseline spending levels while a CR keeps the old (Dem) baseline overspending.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:47 PM (V0UuG)

489 Conservative War Machine @WarMachineRR 34m
NSC spokesman John Kirby: “The president would veto an only Israel bill."

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023 02:47 PM (krqg6)

490 NGU, Olmert gets to share some of that blame

Posted by: Ben Had at November 02, 2023 02:47 PM (ygdP7)

491 When I forget a name I go through the alphabet in my head. Funny how just picturing the letter or sounding it out in your head triggers immediately the name. At least for me.

I do the same thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 02, 2023 02:40 PM (JrojV)

well you do have to remember the entire alphabet...

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:48 PM (eoQWY)

492 Why do these Mayors H8 children of color ???

Democrat mayors of five major cities sent a letter to President Joe Biden's Corpse last week requesting a meeting to discuss the mass influx of illegal immigrants into their cities.

Mayors Eric Adams of New York City, Brandon Johnson of Chicago, Karen Bass of Los Angeles, Mike Johnston of Denver, and Sylvester Turner of Houston wrote Biden Corpse on October 28 asking for additional federal funding and expedited approval for illegal migrants to begin working in their cities.

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at November 02, 2023 02:48 PM (rcLES)

493 Conservative War Machine @WarMachineRR 34m
NSC spokesman John Kirby: “The president would veto an only Israel bill."
Posted by: andycanuck (

Make Mudpants do it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 02, 2023 02:48 PM (R4t5M)

494 Posted by: Sid at November 02, 2023 02:44 PM (ytAal)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at November 02, 2023 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)

495 The new speaker will put up a valiant bit of failure theater and then force through an omnibus CR that funds everything because, gosh darn it, we have to keep the government's lights on no matter what.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (GBKbO)

I think that was the assumption from day one, that there would be a temporary CR and then the hammers would be gotten ready. This was before the Israel thing blew up though.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 02, 2023 02:48 PM (xhaym)

496 If Hamas wouldn't have videoed and posted on the internet there probably wouldn't be the outrage we're seeing from many people. It would probably be deemed as just another rocket attack and incursion. Business as usual, so to speak.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (mGiP7)

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The "Streisand Effect" comes home to roost.

As Dennis Prager observed, the German Nazis tried to hide their crimes; the IslamoNazis publicly revel in and celebrate them.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (71VWD)

497 >Nada. Mannix has found us wanting and undeserving of fine sleazy wiminz. We are forsaken.

I'll do it

Posted by: DB - at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (geLO8)

498 A woman is suing Steven Tyler for r@ping her in a phone booth 50 years ago. I have a lot of questions.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (h6e1t)

499 My point exactly. Continue to prosecute the offensive until the objective is met, and tell Joe to fuck the hell off.
Posted by: Weasel
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I don't envy the Israelis as whatever they choose to do will be pilloried and scrutinized while Hamas and Gazans get to play victim for both sympathy and money from the world.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (V0UuG)

500 I've done that with phone numbers 1 2 3 4 oh its 5051234
Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:42 PM (eoQWY)

8675309

Posted by: InZona at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (Z4oys)

501 You DICK!!!!
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at November 02, 2023 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)
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Seriously.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (ELpxa)

502 I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at November 02, 2023 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

I think the joke started on the internet as a transcript of chat room for NFL QBs were they would talk about the last week and Ben would say something clueless in all caps when it was his turn.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (eoQWY)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU ARE EXPLAINING ONE MEME TO ANOTHER.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (aD39U)

503 419
Yes, they are telling us that if they kill some of us and we defend ourselves we are islamophobes.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (mqeYU)

504 When I was nine, that would have made me think she was a vampire
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (J2vNu)

That makes an even better Bible Story.

Like the time David used a slingshot to put a stake in Dracula's heart.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (eoQWY)

505 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU ARE EXPLAINING ONE MEME TO ANOTHER.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (aD39U)
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Meta.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (ELpxa)

506 think that was the assumption from day one, that there would be a temporary CR and then the hammers would be gotten ready. This was before the Israel thing blew up though.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 02, 2023 02:48 PM (xhaym)

Yes that was my understanding when they were voting for the speaker,

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (MNhXM)

507 Please Bibi, don't listen to the WH. They are your enemy and the enemy of civilization. Keep your promise to never cease fire until Hamas is destroyed.

We are on a runaway train with a moron at the helm. God save us and God save the world.

Posted by: PJ at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (G1dq6)

508 NSC spokesman John Kirby: “The president would veto an only Israel bill."

I'll throw the BS flag

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (YRsIm)

509 Love in a Ma Bell Phone booth,
living it up till I hit the ground.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (R4t5M)

510 So basically the U.S. of A. is doing what we knew the U.S. of A. would do: Betray Israel.

This is why I have believed from the start, the best thing the U.S. of A. could do is stay out of it.

But no. We have our own motives. The Perpetual War Machine must go on. And this one isn't the one they want.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 02, 2023 02:51 PM (dGCAG)

511 I don't envy the Israelis as whatever they choose to do will be pilloried and scrutinized while Hamas and Gazans get to play victim for both sympathy and money from the world.
Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (V0UuG)
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Nor do I. However, Israel has to solve the Hamas problem first and deal with world opinion later.

Posted by: Weasel at November 02, 2023 02:51 PM (JwHpX)

512 When I was nine, that would have made me think she was a vampire
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:45 PM (J2vNu)

I don't know how we got onto the topic then, but once in high school French class, the teacher was searching for a polite way to say "whore" when one guy yells out "She was une femme de la nuit !".

Posted by: spindrift at November 02, 2023 02:51 PM (Ngor4)

513 THE BOSS HAZ A NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 02, 2023 02:51 PM (fwDg9)

514 A woman is suing Steven Tyler for r@ping her in a phone booth 50 years ago. I have a lot of questions.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 02, 2023

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Even aside from the obvious "Why wait so long?", in 1973 the classic Superman-style phone booths were going the way of Big Band music. The phones on a pole with a small privacy shell at the top were almost all that were left.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:51 PM (J2vNu)

515 The Grand Tacticians in DC that brought us the Afghan pullout -- a tactical maneuver certainly to be studied for generations at West Point -- are recommending a cessation of operations *just* as they are building momentum.

This will henceforth be recognized as the Palestinian Pullout. And it will be just as satisfying as the operation is during coitus.

Posted by: red speck at November 02, 2023 02:51 PM (0Id0S)

516 The "Streisand Effect" comes home to roost.

As Dennis Prager observed, the German Nazis tried to hide their crimes; the IslamoNazis publicly revel in and celebrate them.
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (71VWD)
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I suspect the Germans considered it to be a necessary, yet unpleasant process, hence the desire for efficiency. The Gazans, by contrast, are commanded by the death god they worship to glory in the depraved desecration of their enemies, to show it off to the world as a mark of their devotion to evil (which they claim as "good.")

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 02, 2023 02:51 PM (YIVH2)

517 NSC spokesman John Kirby: “The president would veto an only Israel bill."

I'll throw the BS flag
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:50 PM (YRsIm)

It would be a smart move to put that to the test.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 02, 2023 02:52 PM (aD39U)

518 Breaking911 @Breaking911 49m
DEVELOPING: FBI raids Brooklyn home of chief fundraiser for NYC Mayor Eric Adams, in what appears to be a campaign finance-related investigation - WNBC

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023 02:52 PM (krqg6)

519 Use the D-9s to push up a berm around the cordoned area of the city. Fill bermed area with water.

Water will find and fill the tunnels.

Tell the world you are making the Gazans a New Venice.

Think of how much tourist money they will rake in.
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Vacation in sunny Lake Gaza City!
Condos for sale and rent now!
Mediterranean cruises, with stops in Rome, Athens, Lake Gaza City and Cairo!
In 10 years, no one will remember who lived there ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 02, 2023 02:53 PM (TzW+Y)

520 The phones on a pole with a small privacy shell at the top were almost all that were left.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:51 PM (J2vNu)

Not in my home town. Hell, we still had homes with party lines. And this was in the '70s.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at November 02, 2023 02:53 PM (xPJvm)

521 >>A woman is suing Steven Tyler for r@ping her in a phone booth 50 years ago. I have a lot of questions.

FACT: Rape in a Telephone Booth didn't sell nearly as many copies as Love in an Elevator.

Posted by: garrett at November 02, 2023 02:53 PM (myvUL)

522 I've done that with phone numbers 1 2 3 4 oh its 5051234
Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:42 PM (eoQWY)

8675309
Posted by: InZona at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (Z4oys)

I still remember our phone number when I was 6 years old but couldn’t tell you what my phone number was when I lived in New York as an adult for 8 years if you gave me a million dollars.

Posted by: Drive by at November 02, 2023 02:53 PM (MNhXM)

523 A woman is suing Steven Tyler for r@ping her in a phone booth 50 years ago. I have a lot of questions.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 02, 2023 02:49 PM (h6e1t)

I'm sure the police report she filed the next day bears the whole story out.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:54 PM (eoQWY)

524 509 think that was the assumption from day one, that there would be a temporary CR and then the hammers would be gotten ready. This was before the Israel thing blew up though.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 02, 2023 02:48 PM (xhaym)

Yes that was my understanding when they were voting for the speaker,
Posted by: Drive by
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Yesterday's press report of a meeting between Senate and House GOP was that Johnson supports only a CR until January but separate aid bills on Ukraine, Israel, etc. Did not pointedly mention any aid to the Gazarians nor Palis.

Het up ole Joe and he issued the veto warning because that destroys the State Dept grift machine and makes the uniparty GOPe and Mitch afraid of their ass being shot off. Mitch is on his way out and people are already looking to the next election in the Senate. You don't want to be voting on Pali or Ukie aid by itself.

Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:55 PM (V0UuG)

525 You decide.... https://tinyurl.com/24un86w4
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 02, 2023 02:46 PM (YRsIm)

That birthmark makes it look like she can't wipe her own ass.

I can only give her 9/10.

Posted by: Robert at November 02, 2023 02:55 PM (TR6/H)

526 The phones on a pole with a small privacy shell at the top were almost all that were left.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 02, 2023 02:51 PM (J2vNu)

Not in my home town. Hell, we still had homes with party lines. And this was in the '70s.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at November 02, 2023 02:53 PM (xPJvm)

Yeah we had a shared line with the person across the street and one up the hill when I was a kid.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:55 PM (eoQWY)

527 IDF investigating soldiers taped abusing West Bank Palestinians

https://mol.im/a/12703175

Posted by: Ciampino - A 50 Cent concert featuring Nickelback costs 45 cents!! at November 02, 2023 02:56 PM (qfLjt)

528 Breaking911 @Breaking911 49m
DEVELOPING: FBI raids Brooklyn home of chief fundraiser for NYC Mayor Eric Adams, in what appears to be a campaign finance-related investigation - WNBC
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 02, 2023 02:52 PM (krqg6)

That will teach Adams to keep his mouth shut about illegals being shipped to NYC

Posted by: Kindltot at November 02, 2023 02:56 PM (xhaym)

529 Hamas publish their crimes to put fear in our hearts
to show that they are unrelenting.
And they succeed.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023 02:56 PM (qfBOF)

530 Het up ole Joe and he issued the veto warning because that destroys the State Dept grift machine and makes the uniparty GOPe and Mitch afraid of their ass being shot off. Mitch is on his way out and people are already looking to the next election in the Senate. You don't want to be voting on Pali or Ukie aid by itself.
Posted by: whig at November 02, 2023 02:55 PM (V0UuG)

Sure Joe, you are going to veto a bill that gives aid to Israel because it has no funding for Hamas or Ukraine. Go ahead.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 02:59 PM (eoQWY)

531 Hamas publish their crimes to put fear in our hearts
to show that they are unrelenting.
And they succeed.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023 02:56 PM (qfBOF)

They succeed because we keep dumping money in their laps. Iran does some, but we do a lot more and they get their cut.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 02, 2023 03:01 PM (eoQWY)

532 531 IDF investigating soldiers taped abusing West Bank Palestinians

https://mol.im/a/12703175

Posted by: Ciampino -
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embarrassing, maybe humiliating them for breaking the law
Propaganda I think

Posted by: Braenyard at November 02, 2023 03:01 PM (qfBOF)

533 Apparently, the Biden folks had a "Jewish Voice for Peace" member ready in the audience to ask Joe for a ceasefire.

Posted by: SMOD at November 02, 2023 03:03 PM (RHGPo)

534 I hope the Israelis tell Biden, Blinken & Co., to GFYs.

See Sri Lanka for details on how to end an internal war within your territory.

Posted by: HR Dept Dibersity Hire at November 02, 2023 03:05 PM (MIu4T)

535 Amid frigid temperatures, plans to warm unhoused migrants in Chicago criticized

https://is.gd/iBJTVI

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Somehow I don't feel for those people. Moving from subtropics and tropics to a temperate zone just before autumn sets in is retarded.

Posted by: Ciampino - Cremation is your last hope for a smoking hot body at November 02, 2023 03:06 PM (qfLjt)

536 Wow. The world series came and went and I didn't even notice. I feel great!

Posted by: Archer at November 02, 2023 02:19 PM (gmo/4)

I don't watch baseball either. But, Babylon Bee said Texas Rangers are the only team in MLB that did not have a pride day last season.

I watched part of the WS game last night.

Posted by: Glenn John at November 02, 2023 03:11 PM (RilAR)

537 Pretty sure Blinken and Biden have been informed by Tehran of a list of Hamas personnel who need to be permitted to escape from Gaza City.

Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Ray Epps is a Fed and Ashli Bennett is Crispus Attucks at November 02, 2023 03:19 PM (Yvzx0)

538 However, Israel has to solve the Hamas problem first and deal with world opinion later.

Amen. They got nothing to lose.

Posted by: PJ at November 02, 2023 03:41 PM (G1dq6)

539 Every single day, Israel should call on Hamas to unconditionally surrender, so they can dispense humanitarian aid. No cease fire - surrender.

It's what we demanded of the Nazis and Imperial Japan. This is no different.

And each day that Hamas refuses to surrender, every lost Palestinian life is on their head.

Posted by: Fire! Bad! at November 02, 2023 03:45 PM (8E/8X)

540 Maybe I've missed this, but if Gaza is/was the hellhole we've been led to believe why are there hundreds of American citizens (presumably holding dual citizenship) who chose to live there some with young children who are now clamoring to get out? Have any of them been asked to explain why they chose to live in Gaza? Just asking.

Posted by: Stranger in a very strange land at November 02, 2023 03:57 PM (AtNGU)

541 Extreme examples of dumbassery or something more sinister?

Posted by: Stranger in a very strange land at November 02, 2023 04:35 PM (AtNGU)

542 We should totally stay out of other Nations Wars

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 02, 2023 05:50 PM (wGqjj)

543 It's an understandable mistake. At a time when left wing activists are denying the humanity of Jews, the tag #NoJews is meant to target them to click on what is assumed to be anti-Jew propaganda and confront them with the truth about the real cause of Pali suffering

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