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THE MORNING RANT: Some Good News! ESG Investments & “Clean Energy” Projects Are Failing
How about some good news on a Friday? Investors are abandoning ESG investment funds! Meanwhile, “clean energy” investments are plummeting in value and new wind energy projects are being canceled before they can kill a single raptor or whale. What’s most shocking to me about the headline below is that it’s on Bloomberg, which is an obedient mouthpiece of leftism and woke capital. “The Tyranny of ESG Has Run Its Course: The idea of ESG has been changing since the day it was just a twinkle in a marketer’s eye. Now it’s heading into its inevitable end game” [Bloomberg – 10/19/2023]
The most recent data from the Investment Association showed a third month of outflows from the Responsible Investments category — a record £448 million ($547 million) in August. Anyone in doubt about the market’s attitude toward ESG investing today need only look at the share price of Impax Asset Management Group Plc. It rose 33 times from late 2015 to late 2021 — and is down 70% since. Bubble, bubble crash.Of course, there’s no good way to spin the fact that there is a growing tide of investors dumping their ESG investments, which is forcing investment firms and money managers to start closing ESG funds. “BlackRock, State Street Among Money Managers Closing ESG Funds: More ESG funds in US closed in 2023 than in three prior years” [Bloomberg – 9/21/2023]
BlackRock Inc. and other money managers spent years rolling out sustainable funds, seeking to capitalize on surging interest in ESG investing. Now they’re abandoning an increasing number of those products in the US amid political backlash and investor scrutiny.“…amid political backlash and investor scrutiny.” Yes, I admit to being part of the backlash. Freedom-loving conservatives like me have most certainly been pouncing and seizing on the politics and poor performance of ESG investments.
State Street Corp., Columbia Threadneedle Investments, Janus Henderson Group Plc and Hartford Funds Management Group Inc., among others, unwound more than two dozen ESG funds this year, according to data from Morningstar Inc. Money poured into sustainable-investing products in 2020 and 2021, when fund managers debuted more ESG funds or added “ESG” or “sustainable” to the names of existing funds.ESG is all encompassing of the left’s agenda, including its gender and racial obsessions. But “clean energy” is a particular focus of the ESG pushers. How are green/clean/renewable energy investments doing? “Clean energy” funds are doing terribly, and investors are yanking what’s left of their money from these bad investments. “Renewables funds see record outflows as rising rates, costs hit shares” [Reuters – 10/10/2023]
Investors ditched renewable energy funds at the fastest rate on record in the three months to end-September as cleaner energy shares took a beating from higher interest rates and soaring material costs, which are squeezing profit margins.No, the problem isn’t “soaring material costs.” The problem is that unreliable energy sources such as wind and solar are bad investments that require government subsidies to stay operational in the best of circumstances.
Renewable energy funds globally suffered a net outflow of $1.4 billion in the July-September quarter, the biggest ever quarterly outflow, according to LSEG Lipper data. The sector's total assets under management now stand at $65.4 billion, a 23% decline from end-June, according to the data.Take a look at this graph of unreliable “clean” energy investment performance (the line plunging off the bottom of the graph) versus that of traditional reliable energy sources.
When is it OK to label coal-fired power plants as “green energy?” Answer: When the coal plants produce electricity that might be used to manufacture electric vehicle batteries: “Indonesia considers labelling green financing for coal-fired power plants that supply EV battery makers” [Reuters – 9/05/2023]
Indonesia's financial regulator is considering making coal-fired power plants that supply electricity to electric vehicle battery manufacturers eligible for green financing, its chief said on Tuesday, drawing criticism from environmentalists.“Green energy” is becoming a punchline, as are carbon
Shell has given up on specific spending and volume targets for carbon offsets, also known as nature-based solutions, Chief Executive Wael Sawan told the Energy Intelligence Forum on Tuesday.Carbon offsets are a scam and a sham. Money that corporations spend on “offsets” used to provide them some cover for their environmental platitudes, but now that even the left understands what a fraud the “offset marketplace” is, the only thing companies get by buying offsets is ridicule.
Shell had previously said it wanted to invest around $100 million a year on offsets and use credits worth up to 120 million tons of CO2 equivalent per year by 2030.While this Daily Caller piece below covers much of what I’ve already mentioned, there is something very interesting in it that I hadn’t read before. The term “ESG” has become so toxic that
BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said in June at the Aspen Ideas Festival that he will not use the term “ESG” anymore, citing the term’s political connotation, Axios reported. “I’m ashamed of being part of this conversation,” Fink stated.This doesn’t mean that Fink is abandoning his dream of imposing the globalists’ cultural communist agenda on us, but it does mean that we have won a major public opinion battle, and that the freedom-suppressing concept of ESG is now so despised that one of the world’s most powerful villains is running from the term. Or maybe it’s because Fink and BlackRock have been put on notice that its ESG agenda puts it out of compliance with certain state laws. “Attorney General Ken Paxton Sends Warning to Companies Using ESG Practices” [Daily Caller -
10/18/2023] Texas already has a law on the books prohibiting any purchase of goods or services in excess of $100,000 if the recipients have ESG policies that negatively affect prominent Texas industries and employers. Paxton is reminding Fink and his ilk that the law will be enforced.
Texas Republican Attorney General Ken Paxton will release an advisory Wednesday that gives updates and guidance on the enforcement of laws passed by the state that restrict government entities from granting large contracts to companies that boycott energy companies, discriminate against firearm entities or associations, or boycott Israel, the Daily Caller has learned first. “The Office of the Attorney General will continue to vigorously enforce our laws that prevent taxpayer funds from going to companies whose ‘ESG’ policies harm Texans or key Texas industries,” Paxton told the Caller before releasing the advisory.With ESG investing drying up, the wind farm hustlers are starting to hurt: “Connecticut’s biggest offshore wind project nearly dead in the water” [CT Mirror – 10/03/2023]
Connecticut’s largest offshore wind project — Park City Wind — is not quite dead in the water but is now on serious life support. Its developer, Avangrid, announced Monday night that it and Connecticut’s utilities have terminated an agreement for the utilities to buy the power from the project. In doing so, Park City, at 804 megawatts, becomes the third major New England offshore wind project, and the second for Avangrid, to hit the shoals. The reason for each is the same. The economy has shifted so much since the power purchase agreements, PPAs, were negotiated, that the projects are no longer viable.Wind projects never were viable, because they never produced a single reliable kilowatt of electricity, much less at an affordable price. There’s more… “Offshore wind developers likely to cancel some contracts after New York decision” [Reuters – 10/20/2023]
Developers in the U.S. offshore wind industry will likely cancel some power sales contracts in New York after the state last week denied passing on more of the costs to consumers…And still more…and all are in liberal, northeastern states. “Orsted offshore wind farm hit with lawsuit by New Jersey county; Lawsuit seeks to invalidate federal approvals for the farm” [Reuters – 10/17/2023]
A southern New Jersey county on Tuesday challenged federal approvals for a major wind farm in U.S. waters off the state's coast, saying the project’s turbines and construction will harm endangered animals like whales, kill birds and impact local tourism.The public is starting to aggressively reject wind energy and much of the green agenda. We have a long way to go in our battles against climate communism, woke capital, and the high priests of Sustainable Organic Church of the Carbon Apocalypse, but we have turned the tide. We cannot let up, but we can take a moment to smile and acknowledge some actual victories in this theater of the war to save western civilization. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
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Posted by: Eric in Atlanta at October 26, 2023 09:40 PM (xfP4L)
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Second.
Posted by: m at October 27, 2023 11:06 AM (aWeTk)
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Always was a scam this green crap
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023 11:06 AM (fwDg9)
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Posted by: Eric in Atlanta at October 26, 2023 09:40 PM (xfP4L)
Posted by: m at October 27, 2023 11:06 AM (aWeTk)
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Posted by: Eric in Atlanta at October 26, 2023 09:40 PM (xfP4L)
Posted by: m at October 27, 2023 11:06 AM (aWeTk)
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Posted by: m at October 27, 2023 11:07 AM (aWeTk)
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Ars Technica writers and commenters would be hardest hit by this news, but none of them will ever see it.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (/QIWP)
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So, when does Dominos take off all the "recycle me" messages on their pizza boxes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
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I'll bet Eric pre-posted!
Posted by: m at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (aWeTk)
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(last thread)
Young Angela Lansbury looks like 90s Drew Barrymore.
Young Angela Lansbury looks like 90s Drew Barrymore.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (44ww/)
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Did see Leftifornia has foot on carbon emission peddle and will phase out any gas vehicles in 13 years or so.
It should fall apart by then with thousands of useless EVs abandoned around the state
It should fall apart by then with thousands of useless EVs abandoned around the state
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (fwDg9)
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>>The public is starting to aggressively reject wind energy and much of the green agenda.
Wind Energy is great.
... if you only want to toast the occasional Pop Tart.
Wind Energy is great.
... if you only want to toast the occasional Pop Tart.
Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2023 11:09 AM (VdpRO)
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So, when does Dominos take off all the "recycle me" messages on their pizza boxes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
My city contracted recycling company won't take "soiled" pizza boxes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
My city contracted recycling company won't take "soiled" pizza boxes.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 27, 2023 11:09 AM (XHWSH)
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Give a guy a break, will ya!
Posted by: Nelson Muntz at October 27, 2023 11:09 AM (4I/2K)
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Woo-hoo!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 11:09 AM (J2vNu)
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Wind has been a scam from the get go. It will pay for itself in 15 years they said.
Life expectancy: 7 years.
Life expectancy: 7 years.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 27, 2023 11:09 AM (Z8Yh2)
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So, when does Dominos take off all the "recycle me" messages on their pizza boxes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
The one that gets me is, "Please consider the earth before printing this e-mail."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
The one that gets me is, "Please consider the earth before printing this e-mail."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 27, 2023 11:10 AM (JrojV)
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Fund managers who lost their shirts (and their customers’ shirts) on “clean energy” investments are probably wishing they’d kept the money invested in good old fashioned “dirty energy” investments.
Lost their shirts? HAH! Good one. No, they loose their customers' shirts.
Theirs? Just the finest bespoke kind delivered daily to their estate in silk bags.
Lost their shirts? HAH! Good one. No, they loose their customers' shirts.
Theirs? Just the finest bespoke kind delivered daily to their estate in silk bags.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:10 AM (IG4Id)
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Not sponge worthy.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 27, 2023 11:11 AM (cl+Gq)
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WA greens now have a large sad after reading this. WA politicians are furious that the kickbacks will come to an end.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 11:11 AM (l10hq)
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Is burning my junk mail in the wood stove considered "green"?
Posted by: BignJames at October 27, 2023 11:11 AM (AwYPR)
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My city contracted recycling company won't take "soiled" pizza boxes.
I've heard or read that once they've had pizza in them, they're no longer recyclable. That's because they soak cardboard in water to break down the cellulose, or something, but the used boxes have too much grease in them from the pizza. And oil and water don't mix. At least, that's the explanation I've heard. Makes sense, I guess.
I've heard or read that once they've had pizza in them, they're no longer recyclable. That's because they soak cardboard in water to break down the cellulose, or something, but the used boxes have too much grease in them from the pizza. And oil and water don't mix. At least, that's the explanation I've heard. Makes sense, I guess.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 27, 2023 11:12 AM (JrojV)
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Industrial windmills are hideous eyesores.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 27, 2023 11:13 AM (sX1BW)
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ESG funds were just the latest pump-and-dump scam to fleece dumb starry-eyed investors desperate to jump on the latest fashionable fad. You can be sure BlackRock and State Street and all the rest of the shiteaters made a nice fat payday on all this ESG flotsam and jetsam. It's the investors who took it in the face. But fuck them. They deserve to be fleeced.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 27, 2023 11:13 AM (iFTx/)
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>>19 Is burning my junk mail in the wood stove considered "green"?
Posted by: BignJames
Yes.
Burning plastics is not green, unless it's outside.
Posted by: BignJames
Yes.
Burning plastics is not green, unless it's outside.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 11:13 AM (l10hq)
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Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of young people that still buy into the myths of green energy, and THEY will be running the world in a few years...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 27, 2023 11:14 AM (YIVH2)
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Meanwhile winter is coming and ERCOT, the Texas power grid, has to be on standby for when all their wind turbines freeze so they don't take down the whole grid
Posted by: brak at October 27, 2023 11:14 AM (WxvBY)
Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2023 11:14 AM (VdpRO)
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Notice on the chart what real energy stocks have done. My portfolio smiles.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:14 AM (lTGtQ)
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Motley Fool, which used to have some pretty good investment suggestions,
really jumped the shark by going all in on ESG Investing.
They even set up a little icon with how the industry scored on an ESG point scale.
Pitiful.
I used their ESG Happy-Clappy scale as a negative indicator. That worked pretty well.
Motley Fool, which used to have some pretty good investment suggestions,
really jumped the shark by going all in on ESG Investing.
They even set up a little icon with how the industry scored on an ESG point scale.
Pitiful.
I used their ESG Happy-Clappy scale as a negative indicator. That worked pretty well.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2023 11:14 AM (QzZeQ)
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The other failed factor with ESGs is that the activists who demand such misguided funds don't actually make enough money to support them.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 27, 2023 11:14 AM (lf83v)
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Was sad to see the new bird-chopoers out near the TXMoMee venue.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 27, 2023 11:15 AM (nC+QA)
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Good. All the "green" energy crapola is just another scam to grift money out of washington dc.
Just another reason to abolish the federales.
Hopefully there are a lot of Solyndras in the near future.
Just another reason to abolish the federales.
Hopefully there are a lot of Solyndras in the near future.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 27, 2023 11:15 AM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (JrojV)
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“Clean energy” funds are doing terribly, and investors are yanking what’s left of their money from these bad investments.
Yeah, "green power" is completely dependent on government subsidies - remove them, and the industry collapses.
Supporters of "green power" frequently claim that fossil fuels receive "subsidies" too, like the tax treatment of accelerated depreciation.
The difference is that if you remove fossil fuel "subsidies, oil, coal, and natural gas get more expensive. Remove wind and solar subsidies, and wind and solar goes away.
Yeah, "green power" is completely dependent on government subsidies - remove them, and the industry collapses.
Supporters of "green power" frequently claim that fossil fuels receive "subsidies" too, like the tax treatment of accelerated depreciation.
The difference is that if you remove fossil fuel "subsidies, oil, coal, and natural gas get more expensive. Remove wind and solar subsidies, and wind and solar goes away.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (N3zMI)
Posted by: BignJames at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (AwYPR)
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Next your gonna tell me our atmosphere is created by biology instead of smart men.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (aC0ue)
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*Nods*
A thing what can't go on won't go on.
*Nods again*
You're not nodding sagaciously, though. Only TJM can do that.
A thing what can't go on won't go on.
*Nods again*
You're not nodding sagaciously, though. Only TJM can do that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (JrojV)
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The sheep that were open to being fleeced with ESG, have been.
Time to roll out the next big investment scam. Hint: Watch for hype being parroted in the press that doesn't seem to make any reasonable sense, or wild claims that the way things have always worked suddenly aren't the way things are going to continue to work.
Time to roll out the next big investment scam. Hint: Watch for hype being parroted in the press that doesn't seem to make any reasonable sense, or wild claims that the way things have always worked suddenly aren't the way things are going to continue to work.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (qPw5n)
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The bad news? Unless you do quarterly in-person reviews with your investment manager, you own some of this action without even knowing it. Many institutional managers can't even tell you if you do or you don't.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (4PZHB)
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Meanwhile, Exxon basically owns everything under Texas.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 27, 2023 11:17 AM (sX1BW)
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Ack! "Choppers", of course. Haven't learned to speak Dutch in the last couple of days.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 27, 2023 11:17 AM (nC+QA)
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Nice to have something terrible happen to people who deserve it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:17 AM (xcxpd)
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How green was my alley?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:17 AM (63Dwl)
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Wind projects never were viable, because they never produced a single reliable kilowatt of electricity, much less at an affordable price.
On land where they're easier to repair they make a little bit of sense. Offshore, they make no economic sense at all. Maybe fish like to hang around them.
Wind projects never were viable, because they never produced a single reliable kilowatt of electricity, much less at an affordable price.
On land where they're easier to repair they make a little bit of sense. Offshore, they make no economic sense at all. Maybe fish like to hang around them.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 27, 2023 11:17 AM (enJYY)
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BlackRock Inc. and other money managers spent years rolling out sustainable funds, seeking to capitalize on surging interest in ESG investing. Now they’re abandoning an increasing number of those products in the US amid political backlash and investor scrutiny.
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Insomuch as it's either, it's the latter. They don't care about "political backlash" and tend not to worry about "investor scrutiny," but the latter is getting to be important because of the *real* problem.
Money is getting expensive and real production is getting to be more important. Companies can't fake results by turning the borrowing crank again, which means they need real products people are actually willing to buy. In the best case, shit like ESG contributes absolutely nothing to the cause of producing or selling products and services (and it usually detracts from it).
They're calling it "investor scrutiny" because it's easy, but the real reason for that scrutiny is that money is more expensive now.
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Insomuch as it's either, it's the latter. They don't care about "political backlash" and tend not to worry about "investor scrutiny," but the latter is getting to be important because of the *real* problem.
Money is getting expensive and real production is getting to be more important. Companies can't fake results by turning the borrowing crank again, which means they need real products people are actually willing to buy. In the best case, shit like ESG contributes absolutely nothing to the cause of producing or selling products and services (and it usually detracts from it).
They're calling it "investor scrutiny" because it's easy, but the real reason for that scrutiny is that money is more expensive now.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:17 AM (ELpxa)
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@9
>>Did see Leftifornia has foot on carbon emission peddle and will phase out any gas vehicles in 13 years or so.
CA NPC's: MAKE RICKSHAWS GREAT AGAIN!!!
>>Did see Leftifornia has foot on carbon emission peddle and will phase out any gas vehicles in 13 years or so.
CA NPC's: MAKE RICKSHAWS GREAT AGAIN!!!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 27, 2023 11:17 AM (XV/Pl)
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You're not nodding sagaciously, though. Only TJM can do that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (JrojV)
Narp, only sleepily.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 27, 2023 11:16 AM (JrojV)
Narp, only sleepily.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 27, 2023 11:17 AM (N3zMI)
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No, the problem isn’t “soaring material costs.” The problem is that unreliable energy sources such as wind and solar are bad investments that require government subsidies to stay operational in the best of circumstances.
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But Mayor Pete assured me that it's all inevitable anyway!!!
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But Mayor Pete assured me that it's all inevitable anyway!!!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:18 AM (ELpxa)
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 27, 2023 11:18 AM (7fSS7)
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Motley Fool, which used to have some pretty good investment suggestions,
really jumped the shark by going all in on ESG Investing.
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Motley Fool is just another pumper for Manhattan. They be shaking the tree, boss.
really jumped the shark by going all in on ESG Investing.
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Motley Fool is just another pumper for Manhattan. They be shaking the tree, boss.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:18 AM (aC0ue)
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whassamatta, you don't want to save the planet?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (B1FKF)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)
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whassamatta, you don't want to save the planet?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (B1FKF)
I'm just doing what God told me to do.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (B1FKF)
I'm just doing what God told me to do.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)
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Missed the opening of buying and selling carbon credits, that was a scam
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (fwDg9)
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BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said in June at the Aspen Ideas Festival that he will not use the term “ESG” anymore, citing the term’s political connotation, Axios reported. “I’m ashamed of being part of this conversation,” Fink stated.
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LOL. Like so many other outfits. They're still going to *do* it, they're just not going to *talk* about it.
Until rates go up another few points, anyway.
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LOL. Like so many other outfits. They're still going to *do* it, they're just not going to *talk* about it.
Until rates go up another few points, anyway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (ELpxa)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (JrojV)
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6 So, when does Dominos take off all the "recycle me" messages on their pizza boxes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
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Time to skim the impurities out of the investment pool.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:20 AM (4I/2K)
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Maybe fish like to hang around them.
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You can knock down the tower and still have the fish.
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You can knock down the tower and still have the fish.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:20 AM (aC0ue)
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The reason for each is the same. The economy has shifted so much since the power purchase agreements, PPAs, were negotiated, that the projects are no longer viable.
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They were *never* viable. They all always depended entirely on lots and lots of subsidy cash - cash that's harder to come by.
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They were *never* viable. They all always depended entirely on lots and lots of subsidy cash - cash that's harder to come by.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM (ELpxa)
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What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM (63Dwl)
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The public is starting to aggressively reject wind energy and much of the green agenda. We have a long way to go in our battles against climate communism, woke capital, and the high priests of Sustainable Organic Church of the Carbon Apocalypse, but we have turned the tide.
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Not really, I don't think. They're not rejecting "green energy." Go poll it and you'll find major support for it.
But they are rejecting monstrously expensive unreliable energy in a time when pocketbooks are emptying out at an alarming rate.
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Not really, I don't think. They're not rejecting "green energy." Go poll it and you'll find major support for it.
But they are rejecting monstrously expensive unreliable energy in a time when pocketbooks are emptying out at an alarming rate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (ELpxa)
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Can an industry collapse before it was ever actually a thing?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (QKkDm)
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Wind and solar power.
If you want to use it on your home, more power to you.
Destroying the American Energy Industry for the 'feelz' should lead to decision makers being launched into space without a space suit.
If you want to use it on your home, more power to you.
Destroying the American Energy Industry for the 'feelz' should lead to decision makers being launched into space without a space suit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)
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Austin funnies
The city of Austin owns a coal fired electric plant in Fayette County, Tx (La Grange). They declared it would be shut down by 2022 several years ago to eliminate that awful smoke.
The legislature allowed the plants that could ramp up delivery of power in a crisis (example: February 2021, this past summer) to be paid for their contribution to the Texas power grid. The only ones that do that are either coal or gas.
Austin is making a killing. They ain't anywhere near closing that plant.
The city of Austin owns a coal fired electric plant in Fayette County, Tx (La Grange). They declared it would be shut down by 2022 several years ago to eliminate that awful smoke.
The legislature allowed the plants that could ramp up delivery of power in a crisis (example: February 2021, this past summer) to be paid for their contribution to the Texas power grid. The only ones that do that are either coal or gas.
Austin is making a killing. They ain't anywhere near closing that plant.
Posted by: DanMan at October 27, 2023 11:23 AM (8uzBS)
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What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM (63Dwl)
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It's what Toyota claims, but few details as far as I know. If it's on the level, it's a major development.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM (63Dwl)
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It's what Toyota claims, but few details as far as I know. If it's on the level, it's a major development.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:23 AM (ELpxa)
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What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM
If it was any company other then Toyota I'd dismiss it out of hand. Whatever, it's years away from market.
What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM
If it was any company other then Toyota I'd dismiss it out of hand. Whatever, it's years away from market.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 27, 2023 11:23 AM (enJYY)
69
Coal is plant based.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 27, 2023 11:23 AM (GFa1g)
70
Make Nuclear Plants Great Again.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 11:23 AM (l10hq)
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:23 AM (aC0ue)
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Coal is plant based.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 27, 2023 11:23 AM (GFa1g)
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So is meat.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 27, 2023 11:23 AM (GFa1g)
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So is meat.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:23 AM (ELpxa)
73
So, when does Dominos take off all the "recycle me" messages on their pizza boxes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
More importantly, when do their pizza boxes stop tasting better than their pizza?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
More importantly, when do their pizza boxes stop tasting better than their pizza?
Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2023 11:24 AM (QzZeQ)
74
@61
>>What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?
You ain't ever seen VaporWare quite like EV Vaporware.
>>What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?
You ain't ever seen VaporWare quite like EV Vaporware.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 27, 2023 11:24 AM (XV/Pl)
75
Can an industry collapse before it was ever actually a thing?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
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I suspect that driverless cars will be one.
Pilotless passenger drones (air taxis) will likely be another.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
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I suspect that driverless cars will be one.
Pilotless passenger drones (air taxis) will likely be another.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (ELpxa)
76
The reason for each is the same. The economy has shifted so much since the power purchase agreements, PPAs, were negotiated, that the projects are no longer viable.
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They were *never* viable. They all always depended entirely on lots and lots of subsidy cash - cash that's harder to come by.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM (ELpxa)
But, the spreadsheets and powerpoints proved their viability!!!! Tweak the macros and F9 that thing until it sings!
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They were *never* viable. They all always depended entirely on lots and lots of subsidy cash - cash that's harder to come by.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM (ELpxa)
But, the spreadsheets and powerpoints proved their viability!!!! Tweak the macros and F9 that thing until it sings!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (4I/2K)
77
>>What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?
The amp requirement to charge the battery must be the equivalent of a city.
The amp requirement to charge the battery must be the equivalent of a city.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)
78
high priests of Sustainable Organic Church of the Carbon Apocalypse
All your internal combustion engines belong to us!
- Greasy Gavin Newsom
All your internal combustion engines belong to us!
- Greasy Gavin Newsom
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (GFa1g)
79
Financial Fads always seem to run the same course, and this one is more exaggerated than most, in both it's ups and its downs.
1) new idea is pushed by promoters who want to cash in. (penny stock prelude)
2) if the idea is politically useful, governments jump in and promise subsidies, vastly inflating the wealth of the original promoters.
3) assumption is made that with just a could of years of subsidies, Profits will start rolling in and everyone will look like geniuses.
4) Profits do NOT start rolling in.
5) Subsidies become onerous, as governments realize there are new things they want to do with the money.
6) subsidies dry up, and new investments dry up.
7) it becomes obvious that the game is up, and the mad rush for the exits is on.
1) new idea is pushed by promoters who want to cash in. (penny stock prelude)
2) if the idea is politically useful, governments jump in and promise subsidies, vastly inflating the wealth of the original promoters.
3) assumption is made that with just a could of years of subsidies, Profits will start rolling in and everyone will look like geniuses.
4) Profits do NOT start rolling in.
5) Subsidies become onerous, as governments realize there are new things they want to do with the money.
6) subsidies dry up, and new investments dry up.
7) it becomes obvious that the game is up, and the mad rush for the exits is on.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (i9ffA)
80
But, the spreadsheets and powerpoints proved their viability!!!! Tweak the macros and F9 that thing until it sings!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (4I/2K)
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LOL!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (4I/2K)
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LOL!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (ELpxa)
81
The roof!
The roof!
The roof is on fire!
We don't need no water,
Let the motherfucker burn!
Burn, motherfucker, BURN!
The roof!
The roof is on fire!
We don't need no water,
Let the motherfucker burn!
Burn, motherfucker, BURN!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (a83VZ)
82
Not really, I don't think. They're not rejecting "green energy." Go poll it and you'll find major support for it.
The "greener" your electricity gets, the more you pay for it.
Funny thing.
The "greener" your electricity gets, the more you pay for it.
Funny thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (2tUFv)
83
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (a83VZ)
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There was a lithium battery on the roof!
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There was a lithium battery on the roof!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (ELpxa)
84
“Green energy” is becoming a punchline, as are carbon indulgences offsets:
-----------
[In best Chris Tucker /Ruby Rhod voice:]Korben Dallas Carbon Credits!
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[In best Chris Tucker /Ruby Rhod voice:]
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (7fSS7)
85
77 >>What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?"
I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (i9ffA)
86
The amp requirement to charge the battery must be the equivalent of a city.
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If true, it would be something a utility company could use.
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If true, it would be something a utility company could use.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (aC0ue)
87
Burn, motherfucker, BURN!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (a83VZ)
You asked for it........
https://youtu.be/RUXelTMCNyc
Burn, motherfucker, BURN!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (a83VZ)
You asked for it........
https://youtu.be/RUXelTMCNyc
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)
88
Investors are abandoning ESG investment funds!
It's amazing what happens when borrowing money is no longer cheap.
It's amazing what happens when borrowing money is no longer cheap.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (2tUFv)
89
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There was a lithium battery on the roof!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (ELpxa)
The roof lit from the plane that crashed into it from the lithium fire on board from some asshole's electric razor in the cargo hold.
There was a lithium battery on the roof!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (ELpxa)
The roof lit from the plane that crashed into it from the lithium fire on board from some asshole's electric razor in the cargo hold.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
90
What is ESG? Extra Special Grift?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (Y2tls)
91
Trump to Present Classified Information of Foreign Interference in 2016 and 2020 Elections at January 6th Indictment Trial
ruh roh
ruh roh
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (l10hq)
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82 Not really, I don't think. They're not rejecting "green energy." Go poll it and you'll find major support for it."
Go poll "Free Pony for Everyone!!!!" and that's a pretty popular position, too.
Go poll "Free Pony for Everyone!!!!" and that's a pretty popular position, too.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (i9ffA)
93
The "greener" your electricity gets, the more you pay for it.
Funny thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (2tUFv)
Same with "organic."
The "greener" your electricity gets, the more you pay for it.
Funny thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (2tUFv)
Same with "organic."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
94
@85
>>I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
What about your Jet Pack?
G-d Damnit, we were promised Jet Packs.
>>I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
What about your Jet Pack?
G-d Damnit, we were promised Jet Packs.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)
95
You ain't ever seen VaporWare quite like EV Vaporware.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
As Divide By Zero said, that's true for companies not named Toyota. They aren't fly-by-night, half-assed anything. Now, they could have been slowly corrupted by the same industrial rot we're suffering, and it is vaporware, but over-promising isn't something they're known for.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
As Divide By Zero said, that's true for companies not named Toyota. They aren't fly-by-night, half-assed anything. Now, they could have been slowly corrupted by the same industrial rot we're suffering, and it is vaporware, but over-promising isn't something they're known for.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (IG4Id)
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77 >>What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?"
I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (i9ffA)
Can I look at your setup? I'd like to get some ideas for my own place.
I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (i9ffA)
Can I look at your setup? I'd like to get some ideas for my own place.
Posted by: Rube Goldberg at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (4I/2K)
97
Ford is at $10.35 a share. It was just yesterday it was ready to go to $20.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (aC0ue)
98
What is ESG? Extra Special Grift?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (Y2tls)
Eat Some Grits.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (Y2tls)
Eat Some Grits.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)
99
If someone tells you they have a green initiative, it's a scam.
Posted by: Ryan Howard at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (DghiR)
100
I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM
What? No 100 mpg carburetor?
I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM
What? No 100 mpg carburetor?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (enJYY)
101
The amp requirement to charge the battery must be the equivalent of a city.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)
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Assuming that the battery technology works, that is only the first part of the problem. The electrical infrastructure will not be able to feed it at any kind of scale, at least not at that speed.
Cop cars will get the ultra-rapid recharge capability. You rubes will be limited to 150 kw/hr.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)
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Assuming that the battery technology works, that is only the first part of the problem. The electrical infrastructure will not be able to feed it at any kind of scale, at least not at that speed.
Cop cars will get the ultra-rapid recharge capability. You rubes will be limited to 150 kw/hr.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (ELpxa)
102
OT - Seems something big is imminent. Flight tracking radar shows zero activity at Tel Aviv. Flights in the region that would otherwise be straight-line are going way around Israel. This was not happening yesterday.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (bNf8H)
103
We cannot let up, but we can take a moment to smile and acknowledge some actual victories in this theater of the war to save western civilization.
Fie! Again, we say FIE!!!
Fie! Again, we say FIE!!!
Posted by: United Eeyore Front at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (I/Qkd)
104
What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?"
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I am just putting the finishing touches on my cold fusion SUV. Once finished I plan to become a Trillionaire with my very own Social Media platform.
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I am just putting the finishing touches on my cold fusion SUV. Once finished I plan to become a Trillionaire with my very own Social Media platform.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 27, 2023 11:30 AM (ZV+pB)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 27, 2023 11:30 AM (44ww/)
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75 Can an industry collapse before it was ever actually a thing?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
Tulip Bulb industry, Holland, 1637.
bankrupted an entire nation.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
Tulip Bulb industry, Holland, 1637.
bankrupted an entire nation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:30 AM (i9ffA)
107
All the people who want to "regulate the planetary climate" and demand the power and unlimited resources to do so are people who have proven themselves incapable of competently managing and running recently-built, closed, man-made systems. They cannot competently run power grids, or municipal water systems or trash pickup; they cannot competently maintain, let alone repair, the "roads and bridges" they are always prating about; they cannot competently run or maintain the public housing they increasingly want people to live in, or the public transportation systems that they want people to rely on.
More than that; they cannot competently direct disaster recovery/relief from floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, wildfires, volcanic eruptions or earthquakes---let alone control or prevent such disasters.
Yet they want people to believe that they can, and should, be permitted to try and regulate the planetary climate, which is infinitely more subtle and varied and complex than any of the recently-built, closed, man-made systems they have already repeatedly proven incapable of managing.
More than that; they cannot competently direct disaster recovery/relief from floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, wildfires, volcanic eruptions or earthquakes---let alone control or prevent such disasters.
Yet they want people to believe that they can, and should, be permitted to try and regulate the planetary climate, which is infinitely more subtle and varied and complex than any of the recently-built, closed, man-made systems they have already repeatedly proven incapable of managing.
Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (Q9ogB)
108
Same with "organic."
Yep - every time a marketer says that its product is "good for the planet", be prepared to pay through the nose.
Yep - every time a marketer says that its product is "good for the planet", be prepared to pay through the nose.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (2tUFv)
109
Supporters of "green power" frequently claim that fossil fuels receive "subsidies" too, like the tax treatment of accelerated depreciation.
The difference is that if you remove fossil fuel "subsidies, oil, coal, and natural gas get more expensive. Remove wind and solar subsidies, and wind and solar goes away.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
I get irritated by that argument. Depreciation is not a subsidy like taxpayer cash being handed out like candy.
One more point - there isn't a windmill that I know of that could break even without a subsidy.
The difference is that if you remove fossil fuel "subsidies, oil, coal, and natural gas get more expensive. Remove wind and solar subsidies, and wind and solar goes away.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
I get irritated by that argument. Depreciation is not a subsidy like taxpayer cash being handed out like candy.
One more point - there isn't a windmill that I know of that could break even without a subsidy.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (w/aCe)
110
We cannot let up, but we can take a moment to smile and acknowledge some actual victories in this theater of the war to save western civilization.
Fie! Again, we say FIE!!!
Also, we say NI!!!!
Fie! Again, we say FIE!!!
Also, we say NI!!!!
Posted by: United Eeyore Front at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (I/Qkd)
111
The perpetual motion machine is lubricated by unicorn tears.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (44ww/)
112
The amp requirement to charge the battery must be the equivalent of a city.
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If true, it would be something a utility company could use.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (aC0ue)
. . . the energy production requirements would be immense, say on the magnitude order of our sun . . .
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If true, it would be something a utility company could use.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (aC0ue)
. . . the energy production requirements would be immense, say on the magnitude order of our sun . . .
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (4I/2K)
113
What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?"
I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Can I look at your setup? I'd like to get some ideas for my own place.
Posted by: Rube Goldberg
Intriguing. Do you perchance have a newsletter?
Posted by: Bernie Madoff
I got one in the garage right next to my perpetual motion machine and my anti-gravity drive.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Can I look at your setup? I'd like to get some ideas for my own place.
Posted by: Rube Goldberg
Intriguing. Do you perchance have a newsletter?
Posted by: Bernie Madoff
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (Y2tls)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (FxH7T)
115
Not really, I don't think. They're not rejecting "green energy." Go poll it and you'll find major support for it.
But they are rejecting monstrously expensive unreliable energy in a time when pocketbooks are emptying out at an alarming rate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (ELpxa)
Exactly. As I tell my kids. It's great for Niagara Falls to pursue hydro-electric power or the Sahara desert to pursue solar power or Mount Washington NH to pursue wind power...but that's b/c those places have those resources in abundance and can still use coal/oil/nat gas as back ups. But, it's not great for Niagara Falls to pursue solar, the Sahara Desert to pursue hydro-electric, or the Amazon rainforest to pursue wind b/c they don't have any of those resources.
"Green" energy makes sense in very few places, but it does make sense in those places. So, we should pursue it there, if only to decrease our reliance on the big 3 a little. And then prioritize our big 3, b/c we need those always.
I like to pursue a "be smart" policy for energy. Do what makes sense, not what makes graft. Apparently, in the DC area, this makes me a lonely person...
But they are rejecting monstrously expensive unreliable energy in a time when pocketbooks are emptying out at an alarming rate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (ELpxa)
Exactly. As I tell my kids. It's great for Niagara Falls to pursue hydro-electric power or the Sahara desert to pursue solar power or Mount Washington NH to pursue wind power...but that's b/c those places have those resources in abundance and can still use coal/oil/nat gas as back ups. But, it's not great for Niagara Falls to pursue solar, the Sahara Desert to pursue hydro-electric, or the Amazon rainforest to pursue wind b/c they don't have any of those resources.
"Green" energy makes sense in very few places, but it does make sense in those places. So, we should pursue it there, if only to decrease our reliance on the big 3 a little. And then prioritize our big 3, b/c we need those always.
I like to pursue a "be smart" policy for energy. Do what makes sense, not what makes graft. Apparently, in the DC area, this makes me a lonely person...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (exHjb)
116
102 OT - Seems something big is imminent. Flight tracking radar shows zero activity at Tel Aviv. Flights in the region that would otherwise be straight-line are going way around Israel. This was not happening yesterday.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (bNf8H)
Warning of incoming missiles would cause that, but who knows.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (bNf8H)
Warning of incoming missiles would cause that, but who knows.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:32 AM (i9ffA)
117
The amp requirement to charge the battery must be the equivalent of a city.
------------------
If true, it would be something a utility company could use.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (aC0ue)
. . . the energy production requirements would be immense, say on the magnitude order of our sun . . .
Posted by: Count de Monet
When it dims the output of a nuclear reactor....
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If true, it would be something a utility company could use.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:27 AM (aC0ue)
. . . the energy production requirements would be immense, say on the magnitude order of our sun . . .
Posted by: Count de Monet
When it dims the output of a nuclear reactor....
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:32 AM (Y2tls)
118
Not really, I don't think. They're not rejecting "green energy." Go poll it and you'll find major support for it.
But they are rejecting monstrously expensive unreliable energy in a time when pocketbooks are emptying out at an alarming rate.
There's only one way to measure support, and that's if you're willing to risk your own money. Everything else is posturing.
But they are rejecting monstrously expensive unreliable energy in a time when pocketbooks are emptying out at an alarming rate.
There's only one way to measure support, and that's if you're willing to risk your own money. Everything else is posturing.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (I/Qkd)
119
What about your Jet Pack?
G-d Damnit, we were promised Jet Packs.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)
All the writing promising that future assumed we would be fully developing our nuclear energy system.
G-d Damnit, we were promised Jet Packs.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 27, 2023 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)
All the writing promising that future assumed we would be fully developing our nuclear energy system.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (nC+QA)
120
102 OT - Seems something big is imminent. Flight tracking radar shows zero activity at Tel Aviv. Flights in the region that would otherwise be straight-line are going way around Israel. This was not happening yesterday.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (bNf8H)
Interesting. Maybe it's game time
Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (bNf8H)
Interesting. Maybe it's game time
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
121
81 The roof!
The roof!
The roof is on fire!
We don't need no water,
Let the motherfucker burn!
Burn, motherfucker, BURN!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (a83VZ)
The 80s were wonderful.
The roof!
The roof is on fire!
We don't need no water,
Let the motherfucker burn!
Burn, motherfucker, BURN!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (a83VZ)
The 80s were wonderful.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (Bz7rQ)
122
Ford is at $10.35 a share. It was just yesterday it was ready to go to $20.
Posted by: Pudinhead
Is it because they caved to the UAW?
Ford is at $10.35 a share. It was just yesterday it was ready to go to $20.
Posted by: Pudinhead
Is it because they caved to the UAW?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (63Dwl)
123
Same with "organic."
Yep - every time a marketer says that its product is "good for the planet", be prepared to pay through the nose.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (2tUFv)
Why, back in my day . . .
Yep - every time a marketer says that its product is "good for the planet", be prepared to pay through the nose.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (2tUFv)
Why, back in my day . . .
Posted by: The "Natural" marketing movement of the '70s at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (4I/2K)
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Indulgences never left us, they just take different forms. I wonder what the next iteration will be.
Posted by: InZona at October 27, 2023 11:34 AM (hgDkd)
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So, when does Dominos take off all the "recycle me" messages on their pizza boxes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
More importantly, when do their pizza boxes stop tasting better than their pizza?
Posted by: naturalfake
More importantly, when did the Horde adopt cardboard as a dietary staple?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
More importantly, when do their pizza boxes stop tasting better than their pizza?
Posted by: naturalfake
More importantly, when did the Horde adopt cardboard as a dietary staple?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at October 27, 2023 11:34 AM (OUMaO)
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Does wind provide DC or AC power? I know my portable solar panel creates DC.
Does wind provide DC or AC power? I know my portable solar panel creates DC.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 27, 2023 11:35 AM (enJYY)
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Unfortunately near irreparable harm has already been done by ESG.
And I doubt they will let a little downturn change their evil ways.
And I doubt they will let a little downturn change their evil ways.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 27, 2023 11:35 AM (uffXR)
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Good Morning!
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 27, 2023 11:35 AM (u82oZ)
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Why, back in my day . . .
Posted by: The "Natural" marketing movement of the '70s
Pffffft. Pretty sure we're the originals.
Posted by: The "Natural" marketing movement of the '70s
Pffffft. Pretty sure we're the originals.
Posted by: Australopithicenes at October 27, 2023 11:35 AM (I/Qkd)
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"Green" energy makes sense in very few places, but it does make sense in those places. So, we should pursue it there, if only to decrease our reliance on the big 3 a little. And then prioritize our big 3, b/c we need those always.
I like to pursue a "be smart" policy for energy. Do what makes sense, not what makes graft. Apparently, in the DC area, this makes me a lonely person...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (exHjb)
For solar and wind, due to not being reliable, need to be fully backed up by conventional energy sources.
A lot of the cost of conventional energy though is the power plant itself. Unless the fuel cost component is extremely high, wind and solar still don't make sense in those places.
I like to pursue a "be smart" policy for energy. Do what makes sense, not what makes graft. Apparently, in the DC area, this makes me a lonely person...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (exHjb)
For solar and wind, due to not being reliable, need to be fully backed up by conventional energy sources.
A lot of the cost of conventional energy though is the power plant itself. Unless the fuel cost component is extremely high, wind and solar still don't make sense in those places.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 27, 2023 11:35 AM (eYoxG)
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I am sure EVs will start piling up, those tons of batteries in them are useless after some use is done. Seems it's cheaper now to get a new than replacing batteries
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023 11:35 AM (fwDg9)
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Yep - every time a marketer says that its product is "good for the planet", be prepared to pay through the nose.
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Ivermectin did that and they stomped on it.
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Ivermectin did that and they stomped on it.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:35 AM (aC0ue)
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19 Is burning my junk mail in the wood stove considered "green"?
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There was a spate of stories a few years ago about people claiming that they got on every mailing list they could find, and heated their homes with the resultant junk mail.
Cool, if true.
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There was a spate of stories a few years ago about people claiming that they got on every mailing list they could find, and heated their homes with the resultant junk mail.
Cool, if true.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 27, 2023 11:36 AM (sWM8x)
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Is it because they caved to the UAW?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (63Dwl)
Most likely.
The current leadership should be introduced to the trebuchet.
Is it because they caved to the UAW?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (63Dwl)
Most likely.
The current leadership should be introduced to the trebuchet.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)
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"Green" energy makes sense in very few places, but it does make sense in those places. So, we should pursue it there, if only to decrease our reliance on the big 3 a little. And then prioritize our big 3, b/c we need those always.
I like to pursue a "be smart" policy for energy. Do what makes sense, not what makes graft. Apparently, in the DC area, this makes me a lonely person...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (exHjb)
You make a very good point - I've noted before that Geothermal works if you can build a plant right next to a Volcano, like in Iceland. In fact we had a very successful geothermal plant in Hawaii. Oops! The Volcano erupted and now it's buried under 60 feet of hardened lava, too bad, so sad.
I like to pursue a "be smart" policy for energy. Do what makes sense, not what makes graft. Apparently, in the DC area, this makes me a lonely person...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 27, 2023 11:31 AM (exHjb)
You make a very good point - I've noted before that Geothermal works if you can build a plant right next to a Volcano, like in Iceland. In fact we had a very successful geothermal plant in Hawaii. Oops! The Volcano erupted and now it's buried under 60 feet of hardened lava, too bad, so sad.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:36 AM (i9ffA)
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So, when does Dominos take off all the "recycle me" messages on their pizza boxes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
My city contracted recycling company won't take "soiled" pizza boxes.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 27, 2023 11:09 AM (XHWSH)
I imagine somewhere there are two guys who had a bet they could make people wash trash. And then they exchanged a dollar like in Trading Places.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
My city contracted recycling company won't take "soiled" pizza boxes.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 27, 2023 11:09 AM (XHWSH)
I imagine somewhere there are two guys who had a bet they could make people wash trash. And then they exchanged a dollar like in Trading Places.
Posted by: InZona at October 27, 2023 11:36 AM (hgDkd)
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No more ESG?! Oh, no! How am I going to unload all these carbon credits I bought?!
Posted by: Wofus at October 27, 2023 11:36 AM (9ejSY)
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106 75 Can an industry collapse before it was ever actually a thing?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
Tulip Bulb industry, Holland, 1637.
bankrupted an entire nation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:30 AM (i9ffA)
Yeah, but was that an industry? It was more of a commodity that became overvalued and then crushed by the same forces.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
Tulip Bulb industry, Holland, 1637.
bankrupted an entire nation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:30 AM (i9ffA)
Yeah, but was that an industry? It was more of a commodity that became overvalued and then crushed by the same forces.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (KbCG3)
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The "greener" your electricity gets, the more you pay for it.
Funny thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023
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Same with "organic."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023
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The former Mrs. Wolfus No. 1 was a chemist. She was always irritated (and this in the '70s, mind you) when stuff like eggs and produce would be labeled "organic." "They're all 'organic'! They have carbon in them!"
Which leads me to say, when Miss Linda points out milk labeled "organic": "As opposed to all that silicon milk you see in the stores now."
Funny thing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 27, 2023
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Same with "organic."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023
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The former Mrs. Wolfus No. 1 was a chemist. She was always irritated (and this in the '70s, mind you) when stuff like eggs and produce would be labeled "organic." "They're all 'organic'! They have carbon in them!"
Which leads me to say, when Miss Linda points out milk labeled "organic": "As opposed to all that silicon milk you see in the stores now."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (J2vNu)
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Does wind provide DC or AC power? I know my portable solar panel creates DC.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
Think about it; what does a hand-crank generator create?
Posted by: Divide by Zero
Think about it; what does a hand-crank generator create?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (IG4Id)
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The former Mrs. Wolfus No. 1 was a chemist. She was always irritated (and this in the '70s, mind you) when stuff like eggs and produce would be labeled "organic." "They're all 'organic'! They have carbon in them!"
Which leads me to say, when Miss Linda points out milk labeled "organic": "As opposed to all that silicon milk you see in the stores now."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (J2vNu)
My sentiments exactly......
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The former Mrs. Wolfus No. 1 was a chemist. She was always irritated (and this in the '70s, mind you) when stuff like eggs and produce would be labeled "organic." "They're all 'organic'! They have carbon in them!"
Which leads me to say, when Miss Linda points out milk labeled "organic": "As opposed to all that silicon milk you see in the stores now."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (J2vNu)
My sentiments exactly......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)
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125 More importantly, when did the Horde adopt cardboard as a dietary staple?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at October 27, 2023 11:34 AM (OUMaO)
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Kindergarten.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at October 27, 2023 11:34 AM (OUMaO)
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Kindergarten.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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Ford is at $10.35 a share. It was just yesterday it was ready to go to $20.
Posted by: Pudinhead
Is it because they caved to the UAW?
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They will just tell Biden to inflate the dollar another 20% by printing money. Can't fail.
Ford is at $10.35 a share. It was just yesterday it was ready to go to $20.
Posted by: Pudinhead
Is it because they caved to the UAW?
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They will just tell Biden to inflate the dollar another 20% by printing money. Can't fail.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (aC0ue)
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131 I am sure EVs will start piling up, those tons of batteries in them are useless after some use is done. Seems it's cheaper now to get a new than replacing batteries
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023 11:35 AM (fwDg9)
I wonder if there will be a market for buying EV's with burnt out batteries and replacing the drivetrains with gas motors. Send the chassis to a Mexican maquiladora plant and remanufacture them.
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023 11:35 AM (fwDg9)
I wonder if there will be a market for buying EV's with burnt out batteries and replacing the drivetrains with gas motors. Send the chassis to a Mexican maquiladora plant and remanufacture them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:38 AM (i9ffA)
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Think about it; what does a hand-crank generator create?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (IG4Id)
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An extremely ugly, half-collapsed sine wave.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (IG4Id)
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An extremely ugly, half-collapsed sine wave.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:38 AM (ELpxa)
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62 The public is starting to aggressively reject wind energy and much of the green agenda. We have a long way to go in our battles against climate communism, woke capital, and the high priests of Sustainable Organic Church of the Carbon Apocalypse, but we have turned the tide.
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Not really, I don't think. They're not rejecting "green energy." Go poll it and you'll find major support for it.
But they are rejecting monstrously expensive unreliable energy in a time when pocketbooks are emptying out at an alarming rate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (ELpxa)
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Agreed. I think more generally, "Green Energy" is a feel-good fantasy that will always have high polling support even if the entire industry crashes and burns. It's like asking people if they support moms and apple pie and clean toilet seats. That's of course part of the problem, in that people allowed the "Green Energy" fantasy to Svengali them into some terrible decisions.
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Not really, I don't think. They're not rejecting "green energy." Go poll it and you'll find major support for it.
But they are rejecting monstrously expensive unreliable energy in a time when pocketbooks are emptying out at an alarming rate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:22 AM (ELpxa)
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Agreed. I think more generally, "Green Energy" is a feel-good fantasy that will always have high polling support even if the entire industry crashes and burns. It's like asking people if they support moms and apple pie and clean toilet seats. That's of course part of the problem, in that people allowed the "Green Energy" fantasy to Svengali them into some terrible decisions.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 27, 2023 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
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Ford is at $10.35 a share. It was just yesterday it was ready to go to $20.
Posted by: Pudinhead
Is it because they caved to the UAW?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (63Dwl)
Ford is a slowly dying company. They had to exit sedans because they weren't making any money there and decided to get invested in EV trucks.
Ford is at $10.35 a share. It was just yesterday it was ready to go to $20.
Posted by: Pudinhead
Is it because they caved to the UAW?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:33 AM (63Dwl)
Ford is a slowly dying company. They had to exit sedans because they weren't making any money there and decided to get invested in EV trucks.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (eYoxG)
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Kindergarten.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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You need *something* to go with the delicious paste they hand out. Paste needs cardboard for the same reason icing needs cake.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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You need *something* to go with the delicious paste they hand out. Paste needs cardboard for the same reason icing needs cake.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (ELpxa)
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Ford will postpone about $12 billion in EV investment as buyers become more cautious. Source: CNBC
They might be reconsidering because of Toyota's announced solid-state batteries. They could be a game changer. Untie us from CHINA & its hold on raw materials.
Toyota has been promising solid state for a decade. It would be nice, but temper your expectations.
The full court propaganda press by the oil cimpanies is succeeding at slowing EV sales. Lies about electric vehicle have become another weapon in the culture wars.
The cost isn't propaganda though. There are precious few EV's below $30,000 right now. My daughter rented an EV this month and had several complaints Charging times, waits for charging stations. Distance on a charge was greatly exaggerated. I’m for EVs, but more investment I'd needed in battery technology and more charging stations.
VW is going to stop selling gas cars in Norway next year because the demand for gas cars has almost completely dried up. Here we are, slowing the process and giving climate-denying companies like Exxon more record profits. Pathetic.
They might be reconsidering because of Toyota's announced solid-state batteries. They could be a game changer. Untie us from CHINA & its hold on raw materials.
Toyota has been promising solid state for a decade. It would be nice, but temper your expectations.
The full court propaganda press by the oil cimpanies is succeeding at slowing EV sales. Lies about electric vehicle have become another weapon in the culture wars.
The cost isn't propaganda though. There are precious few EV's below $30,000 right now. My daughter rented an EV this month and had several complaints Charging times, waits for charging stations. Distance on a charge was greatly exaggerated. I’m for EVs, but more investment I'd needed in battery technology and more charging stations.
VW is going to stop selling gas cars in Norway next year because the demand for gas cars has almost completely dried up. Here we are, slowing the process and giving climate-denying companies like Exxon more record profits. Pathetic.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (JCZqz)
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I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
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The former Mrs. Wolfus No. 1 was a chemist. She was always irritated (and this in the '70s, mind you) when stuff like eggs and produce would be labeled "organic." "They're all 'organic'! They have carbon in them!"
Which leads me to say, when Miss Linda points out milk labeled "organic": "As opposed to all that silicon milk you see in the stores now."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (J2vNu)
Oooooh! Silicon milk! That sounds yummy!
And good for you!
Which leads me to say, when Miss Linda points out milk labeled "organic": "As opposed to all that silicon milk you see in the stores now."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (J2vNu)
Oooooh! Silicon milk! That sounds yummy!
And good for you!
Posted by: All Idiots Everywhere Drinking Soy Milk at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (QzZeQ)
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There was a spate of stories a few years ago about people claiming that they got on every mailing list they could find, and heated their homes with the resultant junk mail.
Cool, if true.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 27, 2023 11:36 AM
I've burned junk mail and in my opinion too much ash and too little heat is created.
There was a spate of stories a few years ago about people claiming that they got on every mailing list they could find, and heated their homes with the resultant junk mail.
Cool, if true.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 27, 2023 11:36 AM
I've burned junk mail and in my opinion too much ash and too little heat is created.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (enJYY)
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They currently have no way to recycle the blades of a wind turbine.
So when these things fail, they're just going to take up space like that airplane junkyard in Arizona.
So when these things fail, they're just going to take up space like that airplane junkyard in Arizona.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)
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Something I would say from an advocacy point of view . . . if any lefty or left-leaning person comes here and reads the posts - you should include in posts on this subject the caveat that we (conservatives) aren't against the concept of green energy (i.e., developing cleaner, more efficient ways to produce energy), we are against the insane mandates to get rid of reliable and cheap energy to pursue an illusion, such as wind or solar power. Or the idea that the economy can be converted in 5 or ten years to some other energy when it doesn't even exist yet.
The OP can be read by someone who doesn't understand this site or conservatives generally as people being against the idea of "clean" energy just because they hate the idea. Which I don't believe is true. We are against the fraud that is going on right now in the name of "climate change" and against reducing ourselves to poverty on the alter of "green energy". But, if someone came up with a truly cheap and reliable way to produce energy out of fairy farts tomorrow, I'd be all on board with using that energy.
The OP can be read by someone who doesn't understand this site or conservatives generally as people being against the idea of "clean" energy just because they hate the idea. Which I don't believe is true. We are against the fraud that is going on right now in the name of "climate change" and against reducing ourselves to poverty on the alter of "green energy". But, if someone came up with a truly cheap and reliable way to produce energy out of fairy farts tomorrow, I'd be all on board with using that energy.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (ky+MF)
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148 Kindergarten.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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You need *something* to go with the delicious paste they hand out. Paste needs cardboard for the same reason icing needs cake.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (ELpxa)
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Oooolala...Mr. Fancy pants had paste to eat.
We had lint, and we liked it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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You need *something* to go with the delicious paste they hand out. Paste needs cardboard for the same reason icing needs cake.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (ELpxa)
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Oooolala...Mr. Fancy pants had paste to eat.
We had lint, and we liked it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
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140 Does wind provide DC or AC power? I know my portable solar panel creates DC.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
Think about it; what does a hand-crank generator create?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (IG4Id)
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Sweat and swearing?
Posted by: Divide by Zero
Think about it; what does a hand-crank generator create?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (IG4Id)
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Sweat and swearing?
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (iFTx/)
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The perpetual motion machine is lubricated by unicorn tears.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 27, 2023
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Torturing Unicorns For Their Tears is a new channel on our site. Some people are really into it.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 27, 2023
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Torturing Unicorns For Their Tears is a new channel on our site. Some people are really into it.
Posted by: PronHub at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (J2vNu)
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Fink was really spouting forcing ESG on businesses at open conferences where he was videotaped giving decrees like Mao.
He's taking it in a notch, at least publicly.
He's taking it in a notch, at least publicly.
Posted by: Indifferent 21st Century American at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (nnp+f)
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I've burned junk mail and in my opinion too much ash and too little heat is created.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (enJYY)
We used to have this thing that would roll up newspaper and make a log out of it. Light it and watch it burn for hours. And it made decent heat.
I've burned junk mail and in my opinion too much ash and too little heat is created.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (enJYY)
We used to have this thing that would roll up newspaper and make a log out of it. Light it and watch it burn for hours. And it made decent heat.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)
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I wonder if there will be a market for buying EV's with burnt out batteries and replacing the drivetrains with gas motors. Send the chassis to a Mexican maquiladora plant and remanufacture them.
Posted by: Tom Servo
I could see that, but the frame will have to be redone, I think the battery packs are part of the structure.
Posted by: Tom Servo
I could see that, but the frame will have to be redone, I think the battery packs are part of the structure.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (w/aCe)
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... The full court propaganda press by the oil cimpanies is succeeding at slowing EV sales. Lies about electric vehicle have become another weapon in the culture wars. ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (JCZqz)
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This person's second sentence is actually true.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (JCZqz)
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This person's second sentence is actually true.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:41 AM (ELpxa)
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142 125 More importantly, when did the Horde adopt cardboard as a dietary staple?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at October 27, 2023 11:34 AM (OUMaO)
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Kindergarten.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
Hey you put melted cheese on anything and we'll eat it.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at October 27, 2023 11:34 AM (OUMaO)
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Kindergarten.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
Hey you put melted cheese on anything and we'll eat it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:41 AM (xcxpd)
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I wonder if there will be a market for buying EV's with burnt out batteries and replacing the drivetrains with gas motors. Send the chassis to a Mexican maquiladora plant and remanufacture them.
Posted by: Tom Servo
https://is.gd/LMPacK
Posted by: Tom Servo
https://is.gd/LMPacK
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)
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I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
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Don't forget the machine that has blinking lights and repeatedly beeps
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
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Don't forget the machine that has blinking lights and repeatedly beeps
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 27, 2023 11:42 AM (ZV+pB)
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Oooolala...Mr. Fancy pants had paste to eat.
We had lint, and we liked it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
Goes great on saltines!
We had lint, and we liked it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
Goes great on saltines!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
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Morning.
Posted by: Robert at October 27, 2023 11:42 AM (w/aCe)
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And here Michigan, there is a state bill in process that would strip a county's ability to regulate zoning or placing solar farms. The power would be reserved for the State.
My county just passed a resolution, like many other counties, opposing this.
My county just passed a resolution, like many other counties, opposing this.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 27, 2023 11:43 AM (ufFY8)
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I wonder if there will be a market for buying EV's with burnt out batteries and replacing the drivetrains with gas motors. Send the chassis to a Mexican maquiladora plant and remanufacture them.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Tesla S with a V8.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Tesla S with a V8.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:43 AM (Y2tls)
169
Oooolala...Mr. Fancy pants had paste to eat.
We had lint, and we liked it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
Goes great on saltines!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
We got stale Nilla Wafers and were grateful!
We had lint, and we liked it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:40 AM (GBKbO)
Goes great on saltines!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 27, 2023 11:42 AM (KbCG3)
We got stale Nilla Wafers and were grateful!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (4I/2K)
170
Ford is a slowly dying company. They had to exit sedans because they weren't making any money there and decided to get invested in EV trucks.
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That certainly appears true to me, but I'm no business expert. I've been driving Ford trucks for over 40 years and I'll never buy another one.
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That certainly appears true to me, but I'm no business expert. I've been driving Ford trucks for over 40 years and I'll never buy another one.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (sWM8x)
171
I bought two NY Strips yesterday and it seemed reasonably priced. I was shocked. Maybe they made a mistake?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (aC0ue)
172
They currently have no way to recycle the blades of a wind turbine.
So when these things fail, they're just going to take up space like that airplane junkyard in Arizona.
Posted by: Sponge
There is a huge open pit in Wyoming where blades are dumped.
They currently have no way to recycle the blades of a wind turbine.
So when these things fail, they're just going to take up space like that airplane junkyard in Arizona.
Posted by: Sponge
There is a huge open pit in Wyoming where blades are dumped.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (lTGtQ)
173
There was a spate of stories a few years ago about people claiming that they got on every mailing list they could find, and heated their homes with the resultant junk mail.
Cool, if true.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 27, 2023 11:36 AM (sWM8x)
Or you could just restrict yourself to just the Uline mailing list and deplete the Schwarzwald of every molecule of cellulose.
There was a spate of stories a few years ago about people claiming that they got on every mailing list they could find, and heated their homes with the resultant junk mail.
Cool, if true.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 27, 2023 11:36 AM (sWM8x)
Or you could just restrict yourself to just the Uline mailing list and deplete the Schwarzwald of every molecule of cellulose.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (n+4am)
174
The full court propaganda press by the oil cimpanies is succeeding at slowing EV sales. Lies about electric vehicle have become another weapon in the culture wars. ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
This person's second sentence is actually true.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Which sentence? Because they're not lies.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
This person's second sentence is actually true.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Which sentence? Because they're not lies.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (Y2tls)
175
I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023
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Don't forget the machine that has blinking lights and repeatedly beeps
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 27, 2023
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Check my yard sale next week at the castle!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023
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Don't forget the machine that has blinking lights and repeatedly beeps
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 27, 2023
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Check my yard sale next week at the castle!
Posted by: Froaderick Frankensteen at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (J2vNu)
176
I wonder if there will be a market for buying EV's with burnt out batteries and replacing the drivetrains with gas motors. Send the chassis to a Mexican maquiladora plant and remanufacture them.
Posted by: Tom Servo
naturalfake Brand Horse Buggies
The All Natural Solution for Your Dead EV and the Collapsed Economy!
Posted by: Tom Servo
naturalfake Brand Horse Buggies
The All Natural Solution for Your Dead EV and the Collapsed Economy!
Posted by: All Idiots Everywhere Drinking Soy Milk at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (QzZeQ)
177
There is a huge open pit in Wyoming where blades are dumped.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (lTGtQ)
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The blades are usually wood, I think.
Is it the coatings?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (lTGtQ)
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The blades are usually wood, I think.
Is it the coatings?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (ELpxa)
178
Good thing that I'm 29 .....
Dating in your 30s is like looking for a parking spot ......
The good ones are all taken. The rest are either handicapped or too far away.
Dating in your 30s is like looking for a parking spot ......
The good ones are all taken. The rest are either handicapped or too far away.
Posted by: Ciampino - Dam Dam Dam at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (qfLjt)
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150 I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
Jacob's Ladder, small:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYy5NZ4hWA
Jacob's Ladder, spectacular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXiOQCRiSp0
150 I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
Jacob's Ladder, small:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYy5NZ4hWA
Jacob's Ladder, spectacular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXiOQCRiSp0
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (i9ffA)
180
I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet
A Jacob's Ladder.
Posted by: Count de Monet
A Jacob's Ladder.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (IG4Id)
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161 ... The full court propaganda press by the oil cimpanies is succeeding at slowing EV sales. Lies about electric vehicle have become another weapon in the culture wars. ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (JCZqz)
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This person's second sentence is actually true.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:41 AM (ELpxa)
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True and it goes both ways. I hate EVs and love fast sports cars. But I recognize that for certain people, an EV is a good car for them. A lot of it is tied up in the perceived prestige of EV and stroking their own egos, but that is true of virtually the entire high-end luxury and exotic market. Veblen. I have no issue with however adults spend their own money. If you get a hard-on at the thought of owning an EV, then more power to you.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (JCZqz)
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This person's second sentence is actually true.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:41 AM (ELpxa)
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True and it goes both ways. I hate EVs and love fast sports cars. But I recognize that for certain people, an EV is a good car for them. A lot of it is tied up in the perceived prestige of EV and stroking their own egos, but that is true of virtually the entire high-end luxury and exotic market. Veblen. I have no issue with however adults spend their own money. If you get a hard-on at the thought of owning an EV, then more power to you.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (iFTx/)
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So, when does Dominos take off all the "recycle me" messages on their pizza boxes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
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What pisses me off is that the city specifically prohibits greasy cardboard. I think of this each time I rip up the box and through it in the trash, not the recycling.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:08 AM (GBKbO)
More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
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What pisses me off is that the city specifically prohibits greasy cardboard. I think of this each time I rip up the box and through it in the trash, not the recycling.
Posted by: From about that Time at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (4780s)
183
Our new 8500lb 1 ton truck has the L5P Duramax in it and it gets 18-20mpg highway, which is great. Eff these EV POS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (l10hq)
184
Dating in your 30s is like looking for a parking spot ......
The good ones are all taken. The rest are either handicapped or too far away.
Posted by: Ciampino - Dam Dam Dam at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (qfLjt)
That's so true its painful.
The good ones are all taken. The rest are either handicapped or too far away.
Posted by: Ciampino - Dam Dam Dam at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (qfLjt)
That's so true its painful.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (xcxpd)
185
You get silicon milk from a Horta.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (63Dwl)
186
Does wind provide DC or AC power? I know my portable solar panel creates DC.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
Think about it; what does a hand-crank generator create?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (IG4Id)
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Sweat and swearing?
Posted by: Elric Blade
Busted knuckles?
Posted by: Divide by Zero
Think about it; what does a hand-crank generator create?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2023 11:37 AM (IG4Id)
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Sweat and swearing?
Posted by: Elric Blade
Busted knuckles?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (Y2tls)
187
163 I wonder if there will be a market for buying EV's with burnt out batteries and replacing the drivetrains with gas motors. Send the chassis to a Mexican maquiladora plant and remanufacture them.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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It would be cheaper to just drop a rebuilt engine in an old truck. If the chassis is good its doable.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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It would be cheaper to just drop a rebuilt engine in an old truck. If the chassis is good its doable.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (aC0ue)
188
Which sentence? Because they're not lies.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (Y2tls)
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Most EV boosters lies.
"EVs aren't really more expensive"
"EVs don't really *need* subsidies"
"EVs are sustainable"
"EVs are green"
etc.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (Y2tls)
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Most EV boosters lies.
"EVs aren't really more expensive"
"EVs don't really *need* subsidies"
"EVs are sustainable"
"EVs are green"
etc.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (ELpxa)
Posted by: Cpt Christopher Pike at October 27, 2023 11:47 AM (sWM8x)
190
177 There is a huge open pit in Wyoming where blades are dumped.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (lTGtQ)
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The blades are usually wood, I think.
Is it the coatings?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (ELpxa)
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I read fiberglass. So glass and glue.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (lTGtQ)
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The blades are usually wood, I think.
Is it the coatings?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (ELpxa)
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I read fiberglass. So glass and glue.
Posted by: Ciampino - sticky and itchy problem at October 27, 2023 11:47 AM (qfLjt)
191
Tesla S with a V8.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:43 AM (Y2tls)
Speaking if Tesla, are they done? Their current lineup is S,3,X,Y.
What more is there to say?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:43 AM (Y2tls)
Speaking if Tesla, are they done? Their current lineup is S,3,X,Y.
What more is there to say?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 27, 2023 11:47 AM (nC+QA)
192
"Is burning my junk mail in the wood stove considered "green"?"
idk, but it seems the "New Green" is not carbon neutral. All "carbon" is supposed to be safely buried (after being encapsulated somehow?).
Same way the New Feminism empowers men to convert to womanhood, and crush/rape all women.
idk, but it seems the "New Green" is not carbon neutral. All "carbon" is supposed to be safely buried (after being encapsulated somehow?).
Same way the New Feminism empowers men to convert to womanhood, and crush/rape all women.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 27, 2023 11:47 AM (Cus5s)
193
Our new 8500lb 1 ton truck has the L5P Duramax in it and it gets 18-20mpg highway, which is great. Eff these EV POS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Wife's 2021 F-150 gets 27.1 mpg.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Wife's 2021 F-150 gets 27.1 mpg.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:47 AM (Y2tls)
194
Sidebars
Barbara Feldman was a hottest
And Remember BLM as I take it made hundreds of millions and never filed a tax form
Barbara Feldman was a hottest
And Remember BLM as I take it made hundreds of millions and never filed a tax form
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023 11:48 AM (fwDg9)
195
I read fiberglass. So glass and glue.
Posted by: Ciampino - sticky and itchy problem at October 27, 2023 11:47 AM (qfLjt)
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Ah. No real way to reuse or recycle fiberglass.
Posted by: Ciampino - sticky and itchy problem at October 27, 2023 11:47 AM (qfLjt)
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Ah. No real way to reuse or recycle fiberglass.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:48 AM (ELpxa)
196
87
Burn, motherfucker, BURN!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (a83VZ)
You asked for it........
https://youtu.be/RUXelTMCNyc
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
Heh! AWESOME!
Burn, motherfucker, BURN!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:26 AM (a83VZ)
You asked for it........
https://youtu.be/RUXelTMCNyc
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
Heh! AWESOME!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:48 AM (0W2kt)
197
That's so true its painful.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (xcxpd)
Same thing my bud says. You'll either find a petri dish or Amber Heard.
That's so true its painful.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (xcxpd)
Same thing my bud says. You'll either find a petri dish or Amber Heard.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:48 AM (Zz0t1)
198
The blades are usually wood, I think.
Is it the coatings?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Fiberglass, with carbon fiber. Not really seperable.
Is it the coatings?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Fiberglass, with carbon fiber. Not really seperable.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:48 AM (lTGtQ)
199
Heh! AWESOME!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:48 AM (0W2kt)
I help where I can.
ESPECIALLY you.
Heh! AWESOME!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at October 27, 2023 11:48 AM (0W2kt)
I help where I can.
ESPECIALLY you.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)
200
175 I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023
A Jacob's Ladder? I don't know how the Electroboom guy makes it LOOK like he's almost electrocuting himself so well - odds are he'd be dead by now, but here's a video on making one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT3vGaOLWqE
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023
A Jacob's Ladder? I don't know how the Electroboom guy makes it LOOK like he's almost electrocuting himself so well - odds are he'd be dead by now, but here's a video on making one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT3vGaOLWqE
Posted by: MD_Mike at October 27, 2023 11:49 AM (HxQiV)
201
Sidebars
Barbara Feldman was a hottest . . .
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023
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Barbara Feldon launched me on a lifelong appreciation of sexy librarians.
Barbara Feldman was a hottest . . .
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023
***
Barbara Feldon launched me on a lifelong appreciation of sexy librarians.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 11:49 AM (J2vNu)
202
They will not be allowed to fail. It is the mechanism for communism and total control.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at October 27, 2023 11:49 AM (ytSiK)
203
The large blades are carbon fiber/fiberglass. Wood is simultaneously too heavy and too weak to stand up to the stresses. They are NOT biodegradable.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:50 AM (i9ffA)
204
ESG and 'green' energy are luxury goods. When economic contraction occurs, luxury items are the first to go.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 27, 2023 11:50 AM (fs1hN)
205
Not to mention their pagan religion.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at October 27, 2023 11:50 AM (ytSiK)
206
There is a huge open pit in Wyoming where blades are dumped.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (lTGtQ)
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The blades are usually wood, I think.
Is it the coatings?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (ELpxa)
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I read fiberglass. So glass and glue.
Posted by: Ciampino
They are a carbon fiber. No way to recycle. At the moment.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (lTGtQ)
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The blades are usually wood, I think.
Is it the coatings?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (ELpxa)
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I read fiberglass. So glass and glue.
Posted by: Ciampino
They are a carbon fiber. No way to recycle. At the moment.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:50 AM (Y2tls)
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149 The cost isn't propaganda though. There are precious few EV's below $30,000 right now. My daughter rented an EV this month and had several complaints Charging times, waits for charging stations. Distance on a charge was greatly exaggerated. I’m for EVs, but more investment I'd needed in battery technology and more charging stations.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (JCZqz)
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This person is speaking malinformation and must be destroyed.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (JCZqz)
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This person is speaking malinformation and must be destroyed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (GBKbO)
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New York Post
@nypost
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Woman claims she accidentally performed sex act on own dad while at bachelorette party in Amsterdam https://trib.al/oC8eoCW
New York Post
@nypost
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Woman claims she accidentally performed sex act on own dad while at bachelorette party in Amsterdam https://trib.al/oC8eoCW
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (TGPs7)
209
I don't know how the Electroboom guy makes it LOOK like he's almost electrocuting himself so well - odds are he'd be dead by now, but here's a video on making one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT3vGaOLWqE
Posted by: MD_Mike
That dude is awesome.
Posted by: MD_Mike
That dude is awesome.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (Y2tls)
210
I think an EV is great if you live in The Villages in Florida and all you need to do is go from your driveway to the clubhouse or the putting green.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (i9ffA)
211
Natural gas is so cheap in the US that it's burned off rather than gathered and sold
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (nnp+f)
212
Getting very 'splody in Gaza right now.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (bNf8H)
213
Mon Dieu! Horta milk is one of the secret ingredients of Poutine!
Someone talked. C'est une catastrophe!
Someone talked. C'est une catastrophe!
Posted by: Royal Chef Francoise de Poux-Poux at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (DZrNt)
214
@nypost
Woman claims she accidentally performed sex act on own dad while at bachelorette party in Amsterdam https://trib.al/oC8eoCW
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (TGPs7)
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Assuming this is true, there are two problems here:
1. That is happened
2. That she talked about it in public
Just bury your shame and learn your lesson
Woman claims she accidentally performed sex act on own dad while at bachelorette party in Amsterdam https://trib.al/oC8eoCW
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (TGPs7)
++++
Assuming this is true, there are two problems here:
1. That is happened
2. That she talked about it in public
Just bury your shame and learn your lesson
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (ELpxa)
215
>>Wife's 2021 F-150 gets 27.1 mpg.
Posted by: rickb223
Nice. They can make very fuel efficient vehicles if they really want to.
Posted by: rickb223
Nice. They can make very fuel efficient vehicles if they really want to.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (l10hq)
216
Jacob's Ladder, spectacular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXiOQCRiSp0
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (i9ffA)
I'll admit I was expecting the Rush song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXiOQCRiSp0
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (i9ffA)
I'll admit I was expecting the Rush song.
Posted by: spindrift at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (wwfd9)
217
Dating in your 30s is like looking for a parking spot ......
The good ones are all taken. The rest are either handicapped or too far away.
Posted by: Ciampino - Dam Dam Dam at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (qfLjt)
It only gets worse, unless you're Chad. Better to abandon the notion entirely if you're an average dude.
The good ones are all taken. The rest are either handicapped or too far away.
Posted by: Ciampino - Dam Dam Dam at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (qfLjt)
It only gets worse, unless you're Chad. Better to abandon the notion entirely if you're an average dude.
Posted by: It's less painful and costly in the long run at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (B9RjC)
218
I bought two NY Strips yesterday and it seemed reasonably priced. I was shocked. Maybe they made a mistake?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (aC0ue)
Culling the herds down to breeding stock only. Prepping for feed costs to skyrocket. Given everything else going on in the world, not a good sign.
I bought two NY Strips yesterday and it seemed reasonably priced. I was shocked. Maybe they made a mistake?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:44 AM (aC0ue)
Culling the herds down to breeding stock only. Prepping for feed costs to skyrocket. Given everything else going on in the world, not a good sign.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (n+4am)
219
But, if someone came up with a truly cheap and reliable way to produce energy out of fairy farts tomorrow, I'd be all on board with using that energy.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (ky+MF)
Nuclear power has entered the discussion.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (ky+MF)
Nuclear power has entered the discussion.
Posted by: Drive by at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (MNhXM)
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New York Post
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Woman claims she accidentally performed sex act on own dad while at bachelorette party in Amsterdam https://trib.al/oC8eoCW
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (TGPs7)
The Van Bidens?*
*Like The Aristocrats but nastier.
@nypost
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Woman claims she accidentally performed sex act on own dad while at bachelorette party in Amsterdam https://trib.al/oC8eoCW
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (TGPs7)
The Van Bidens?*
*Like The Aristocrats but nastier.
Posted by: All Idiots Everywhere Drinking Soy Milk at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (QzZeQ)
221
"EVs aren't really more expensive"
"EVs don't really *need* subsidies"
"EVs are sustainable"
"EVs are green"
etc.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM
If EVs received even HALF of the subsidies and infrastructure support the fossil fuel industry does, they'd be affordable, available and effective for everyone!!!
"EVs don't really *need* subsidies"
"EVs are sustainable"
"EVs are green"
etc.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM
If EVs received even HALF of the subsidies and infrastructure support the fossil fuel industry does, they'd be affordable, available and effective for everyone!!!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (JCZqz)
222
I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
LOL
I think that is called a Tesla machine, or Tesla coil?
Too lazy to look it up.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
LOL
I think that is called a Tesla machine, or Tesla coil?
Too lazy to look it up.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 27, 2023 11:54 AM (ufFY8)
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221 If EVs received even HALF of the subsidies and infrastructure support the fossil fuel industry does, they'd be affordable, available and effective for everyone!!!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (JCZqz)
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EVs are really hurting for subsidies.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (JCZqz)
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EVs are really hurting for subsidies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:54 AM (GBKbO)
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If you get a hard-on at the thought of owning an EV, then more power to you.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (iFTx/)
What if it lasts longer than 4 hours? Should I consult a physician or a mechanic?
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (iFTx/)
What if it lasts longer than 4 hours? Should I consult a physician or a mechanic?
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 27, 2023 11:54 AM (m2efi)
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Woman claims she accidentally performed sex act on own dad while at bachelorette party in Amsterdam https://trib.al/oC8eoCW
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (TGPs7)
***
Dr Freud pick up the white courtesy phone... Dr Freud, white courtesy phone
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (TGPs7)
***
Dr Freud pick up the white courtesy phone... Dr Freud, white courtesy phone
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 27, 2023 11:55 AM (ZV+pB)
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Assuming this is true, there are two problems here:
1. That is happened
2. That she talked about it in public
Just bury your shame and learn your lesson
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (ELpxa)
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Just read the article. It's the third option: it's fake. That ties into point number 2. Some things are not meant for public.
1. That is happened
2. That she talked about it in public
Just bury your shame and learn your lesson
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (ELpxa)
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Just read the article. It's the third option: it's fake. That ties into point number 2. Some things are not meant for public.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:55 AM (ELpxa)
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Tulip Bulb industry, Holland, 1637.
bankrupted an entire nation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:30 AM (i9ffA)
My current theory is that the Dutch Tulip frenzy was due to huge increases in wealth from the overseas trading, development of the Atlantic sugar trade and Spanish influence in the Low Countries fueled by Spain's asset bubble due to the American colonies. All that extra money had to go somewhere and then rare tulips became the next new thing like collectible beanie babies. Until it wasn't. Part of the problem was that investors were borrowing massively against stock that eventually was not worth anything. This is the same problem we saw in 2008 in the housing bubble.
bankrupted an entire nation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:30 AM (i9ffA)
My current theory is that the Dutch Tulip frenzy was due to huge increases in wealth from the overseas trading, development of the Atlantic sugar trade and Spanish influence in the Low Countries fueled by Spain's asset bubble due to the American colonies. All that extra money had to go somewhere and then rare tulips became the next new thing like collectible beanie babies. Until it wasn't. Part of the problem was that investors were borrowing massively against stock that eventually was not worth anything. This is the same problem we saw in 2008 in the housing bubble.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2023 11:55 AM (xhaym)
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So Dean Phillips. (D)ouche who inherited a liquor company is challenging SloJoe. Not sure if he'll get anywhere.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 27, 2023 11:55 AM (kC9Sh)
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LOL
I think that is called a Tesla machine, or Tesla coil?
Too lazy to look it up.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 27, 2023 11:54 AM
Jacob's Ladder.
LOL
I think that is called a Tesla machine, or Tesla coil?
Too lazy to look it up.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 27, 2023 11:54 AM
Jacob's Ladder.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)
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Assuming this is true, there are two problems here:
1. That is happened
2. That she talked about it in public
Just bury your shame and learn your lesson
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (ELpxa)
These modern day hoors have no shame at all. They'll gleefully talk about that time they had a gangbang with five dudes as if it's a grand achievement.
1. That is happened
2. That she talked about it in public
Just bury your shame and learn your lesson
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (ELpxa)
These modern day hoors have no shame at all. They'll gleefully talk about that time they had a gangbang with five dudes as if it's a grand achievement.
Posted by: Never let your girl go to a bachelorette party at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (B9RjC)
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What's going to be fascinating to see is how people get electrocuted by 20 year old EV's in the rust belt after the corrosion exposes the high voltage rails.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (XV/Pl)
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I think an EV is great if you live in The Villages in Florida and all you need to do is go from your driveway to the clubhouse or the putting green.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (i9ffA)
***
Golf Carts are cheaper and more eclectic
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:52 AM (i9ffA)
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Golf Carts are cheaper and more eclectic
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (ZV+pB)
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If you get a hard-on at the thought of owning an EV, then more power to you.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (iFTx/)
What ever happened to Joe Xiden?
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 27, 2023 11:46 AM (iFTx/)
What ever happened to Joe Xiden?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)
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Jacob's Ladder.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)
You asked for it:
https://youtu.be/z3gvOV40ccU
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)
You asked for it:
https://youtu.be/z3gvOV40ccU
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (xcxpd)
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You guys beat me to it and we're right - Jacob's Ladder.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (ufFY8)
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Tesla S with a V8.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:43 AM (Y2tls)
screw that, put in a genset and make it diesel-electrtic.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 11:43 AM (Y2tls)
screw that, put in a genset and make it diesel-electrtic.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (xhaym)
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Good Times all around, via Instapundit...
NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO BUY, NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO SELL: Goldman just dropped a housing market forecast for 2024 and sees high home prices, high mortgage rates—and the lowest number of existing home sales since the early ’90s.
NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO BUY, NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO SELL: Goldman just dropped a housing market forecast for 2024 and sees high home prices, high mortgage rates—and the lowest number of existing home sales since the early ’90s.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (TGPs7)
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As per the story, the father and daughter involved were allegedly able to “push a button” to reveal who they were enjoying a dalliance with.
Surprise!
Surprise!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (l10hq)
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237 Good Times all around, via Instapundit...
NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO BUY, NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO SELL: Goldman just dropped a housing market forecast for 2024 and sees high home prices, high mortgage rates—and the lowest number of existing home sales since the early ’90s.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (TGPs7)
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I did my best to help!
NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO BUY, NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO SELL: Goldman just dropped a housing market forecast for 2024 and sees high home prices, high mortgage rates—and the lowest number of existing home sales since the early ’90s.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (TGPs7)
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I did my best to help!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (GBKbO)
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Woman claims she accidentally performed sex act on own dad while at bachelorette party in Amsterdam https://trib.al/oC8eoCW
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (TGPs7)
Biden family wedding?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:51 AM (TGPs7)
Biden family wedding?
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 27, 2023 11:58 AM (kC9Sh)
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Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of young people that still buy into the myths of green energy, and THEY will be running the world in a few years...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 27, 2023 11:14 AM (YIVH2)
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Yep, but reality has a way of refocusing the senses. And they are going to feel reality in a big way. Much higher capital costs now mean all these green projects have to find additional money, normally from consumers. And FJB has killed everyone's pocketbook, so yeah, it's all coming to an end.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 27, 2023 11:14 AM (YIVH2)
==
Yep, but reality has a way of refocusing the senses. And they are going to feel reality in a big way. Much higher capital costs now mean all these green projects have to find additional money, normally from consumers. And FJB has killed everyone's pocketbook, so yeah, it's all coming to an end.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 27, 2023 11:58 AM (GZYu7)
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Shell has given up on specific spending and volume targets for carbon offsets, also known as nature-based solutions ...
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Right, because carbon is not nature-based ...
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Right, because carbon is not nature-based ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 27, 2023 11:58 AM (CQg5Y)
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EVs are vehicles meant for Mars colonies.
Posted by: Drive by at October 27, 2023 11:58 AM (MNhXM)
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These modern day hoors have no shame at all. They'll gleefully talk about that time they had a gangbang with five dudes as if it's a grand achievement.
Posted by: Never let your girl go to a bachelorette party at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (B9RjC)
It was just a hot tub party. No big deal.
Posted by: Never let your girl go to a bachelorette party at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (B9RjC)
It was just a hot tub party. No big deal.
Posted by: Former Officer Maegan Hall, La Vergna PD, TN at October 27, 2023 11:58 AM (4I/2K)
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NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO BUY, NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO SELL:
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Definitely a tough market. Tough to downsize in.
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Definitely a tough market. Tough to downsize in.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 27, 2023 11:59 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 27, 2023 11:59 AM (fs1hN)
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>> I read fiberglass. So glass and glue.
One of the bigger makers of wind turbine blades is or was Tillitson Pearson aka TPI which was formerly a maker of boats. They make their blades using the exact same process as making a high tech boat hull including vacuum bagging and other weight reducing techniques.
There is some balsa in the core but it's basically all fiberglass matting and resin.
One of the bigger makers of wind turbine blades is or was Tillitson Pearson aka TPI which was formerly a maker of boats. They make their blades using the exact same process as making a high tech boat hull including vacuum bagging and other weight reducing techniques.
There is some balsa in the core but it's basically all fiberglass matting and resin.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 27, 2023 11:59 AM (ZLI7S)
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Ford had to exit sedans and make giant trucks because of the CAFE standards that make anything larger than a golf cart or smaller than a MRAP impossible to build economically. The fleet standard for mileage is based on footprint: there are now insane requirements for small trucks and large sedans.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2023 12:00 PM (xhaym)
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Douglas Murray
@DouglasKMurray
·
7h
Muslim migrant killed two gay men, decapitated one and stabbed a third in the eye. For being gay. But remember - ‘Diversity is our strength.’
@DouglasKMurray
·
7h
Muslim migrant killed two gay men, decapitated one and stabbed a third in the eye. For being gay. But remember - ‘Diversity is our strength.’
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 12:00 PM (TGPs7)
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Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (TGPs7)
And the property taxes are going up as well, along with water and electricity bill increases. People are going to start losing their homes due to tax default just like in the Depression (contrary to Hollywood, it wasn't the mean bankers foreclosing a lot of the time).
And the property taxes are going up as well, along with water and electricity bill increases. People are going to start losing their homes due to tax default just like in the Depression (contrary to Hollywood, it wasn't the mean bankers foreclosing a lot of the time).
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 27, 2023 12:00 PM (nC+QA)
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223 221 If EVs received even HALF of the subsidies and infrastructure support the fossil fuel industry does, they'd be affordable, available and effective for everyone!!!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (JCZqz)
a) it is heavily taxed, not subsidized.
b) the infrastructure was put into place because oil is the lifeblood of all modern economic systems. Without it, those systems die.
c) historical note - the great Texas Oil Boom of the 30's is what gave the US enough economic power and raw materials to create an army in the early 40's that could fight and win a worldwide 2 front war. Everyone was always short of fuel in that war - except the US.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 27, 2023 11:53 AM (JCZqz)
a) it is heavily taxed, not subsidized.
b) the infrastructure was put into place because oil is the lifeblood of all modern economic systems. Without it, those systems die.
c) historical note - the great Texas Oil Boom of the 30's is what gave the US enough economic power and raw materials to create an army in the early 40's that could fight and win a worldwide 2 front war. Everyone was always short of fuel in that war - except the US.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 12:00 PM (i9ffA)
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Yet, Buffett's large filthy coal spewing diesel locomotives are free to roam the country without many restrictions. Funny how that works.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 12:00 PM (l10hq)
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NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO BUY, NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO SELL: Goldman just dropped a housing market forecast for 2024 and sees high home prices, high mortgage rates—and the lowest number of existing home sales since the early ’90s.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM
Tonight we're going to party like it's 2008! Think of all the emergency spending, regulations, bailouts and bureaucracy we'll have to enact!!!!
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM
Tonight we're going to party like it's 2008! Think of all the emergency spending, regulations, bailouts and bureaucracy we'll have to enact!!!!
Posted by: Uniparty at October 27, 2023 12:00 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: End times? I hope so at October 27, 2023 12:01 PM (B9RjC)
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screw that, put in a genset and make it diesel-electrtic.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (xhaym)
Check out Edison motors on youtube. Dude up in Canuckistan made a diesel-electric big rig that is quite honestly, f'in awesome.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2023 11:56 AM (xhaym)
Check out Edison motors on youtube. Dude up in Canuckistan made a diesel-electric big rig that is quite honestly, f'in awesome.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 27, 2023 12:01 PM (hKPYU)
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249 Douglas Murray
@DouglasKMurray
·
7h
Muslim migrant killed two gay men, decapitated one and stabbed a third in the eye. For being gay. But remember - ‘Diversity is our strength.’
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 12:00 PM (TGPs7)
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Opposing mass immigration is racism. Decrying any negative effects of mass immigration is both racism and misinformation.
It's a good thing Ireland made abortion legal to help slow its birthrate down some more, necessitating more immigration to offset the decrease in its native ability to support its welfare systems.
@DouglasKMurray
·
7h
Muslim migrant killed two gay men, decapitated one and stabbed a third in the eye. For being gay. But remember - ‘Diversity is our strength.’
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 12:00 PM (TGPs7)
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Opposing mass immigration is racism. Decrying any negative effects of mass immigration is both racism and misinformation.
It's a good thing Ireland made abortion legal to help slow its birthrate down some more, necessitating more immigration to offset the decrease in its native ability to support its welfare systems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 27, 2023 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
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Looking at hybrids.
Is it overall more efficient to go
gasoline-ICE
or gasoline-ICE-charge battery-electric motors on wheels
?
Is it overall more efficient to go
gasoline-ICE
or gasoline-ICE-charge battery-electric motors on wheels
?
Posted by: Ciampino - NEV - never electric vehicle at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (qfLjt)
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As per the story, the father and daughter involved were allegedly able to “push a button” to reveal who they were enjoying a dalliance with.
Surprise!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (l10hq)
Was it allegedly a step father? That seems to be the current porn fetish subject. Step relatives. Sodom and Gomorrah have nothing on us these days,
Surprise!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (l10hq)
Was it allegedly a step father? That seems to be the current porn fetish subject. Step relatives. Sodom and Gomorrah have nothing on us these days,
Posted by: Drive by at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (MNhXM)
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Dating in your 30s is like looking for a parking spot ......
The good ones are all taken. The rest are either handicapped or too far away.
Posted by: Ciampino - Dam Dam Dam at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (qfLjt)
You didn't get the correct training.
always park your car near the exit, pointed in the best, fastest direction, just in case you need to leave in a hurry.
The good ones are all taken. The rest are either handicapped or too far away.
Posted by: Ciampino - Dam Dam Dam at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (qfLjt)
You didn't get the correct training.
always park your car near the exit, pointed in the best, fastest direction, just in case you need to leave in a hurry.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (xhaym)
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I suspect the Bud Light experience has caused cheerfully woke executives across the corporate spectrum to have a care. They'll never admit it, of course.
Like the old joke, "I don't know how Nixon won. Nobody I know voted for him."
They don't know anyone who was offput by Dylan Mulvaney on the beer can, either.
Like the old joke, "I don't know how Nixon won. Nobody I know voted for him."
They don't know anyone who was offput by Dylan Mulvaney on the beer can, either.
Posted by: mnw at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (NLIak)
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NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO BUY, NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO SELL: Goldman just dropped a housing market forecast for 2024 and sees high home prices, high mortgage rates—and the lowest number of existing home sales since the early ’90s.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (TGPs7)
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Yes - collapsing inventories acting as price support. This is what is going on right now. This will keep up until either rates go down (or real wages go up, or more likely both) or people who are currently stuck are forced to move.
Right now, there isn't much forced selling. This will change if the job market continues to soften and compels people to move. Then, forced to sell, the price will come down and then others who *could* sell but needn't will flood in to get while the getting is good, causing a more significant decline.
Low inventory is supporting price because interest rates provide a major disincentive to sell/move. Nobody paying 3% wants to move and pay 8%, since they won't be able to afford it. This probably continues until we see forced sales (like due to unemployment).
If forced sales happen, look out below.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 27, 2023 11:57 AM (TGPs7)
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Yes - collapsing inventories acting as price support. This is what is going on right now. This will keep up until either rates go down (or real wages go up, or more likely both) or people who are currently stuck are forced to move.
Right now, there isn't much forced selling. This will change if the job market continues to soften and compels people to move. Then, forced to sell, the price will come down and then others who *could* sell but needn't will flood in to get while the getting is good, causing a more significant decline.
Low inventory is supporting price because interest rates provide a major disincentive to sell/move. Nobody paying 3% wants to move and pay 8%, since they won't be able to afford it. This probably continues until we see forced sales (like due to unemployment).
If forced sales happen, look out below.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (ELpxa)
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These modern day hoors have no shame at all. They'll gleefully talk about that time they had a gangbang with five dudes as if it's a grand achievement.
Posted by: Never let your girl go to a bachelorette party
Newest thing is a girl wanting you to spend $200 on your first date with here just for her "presence".
Sorry sugartits. $200 on the first date gets anal.
Posted by: Never let your girl go to a bachelorette party
Newest thing is a girl wanting you to spend $200 on your first date with here just for her "presence".
Sorry sugartits. $200 on the first date gets anal.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (Y2tls)
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Ford had to exit sedans and make giant trucks because of the CAFE standards that make anything larger than a golf cart or smaller than a MRAP impossible to build economically.
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (I/Qkd)
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Great rant, Buck -- and thank you for all of your effective research, reporting, and evangelism on these topics over the years ... Congratulations!
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 27, 2023 12:03 PM (CQg5Y)
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Bad news: Blackrock maintains 65% of your 401k
Posted by: arminius at October 27, 2023 12:03 PM (Dpgtk)
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Ford is at $10.35 a share. It was just yesterday it was ready to go to $20.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (aC0ue)
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Ford has a real problem, and all the other car companies have noticed it. And it starts with E and ends with V - and it pissed off the UAW and now they are going to get stuck with a terrible deal that will make their traditional products more expensive and less competitive.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 27, 2023 11:29 AM (aC0ue)
==
Ford has a real problem, and all the other car companies have noticed it. And it starts with E and ends with V - and it pissed off the UAW and now they are going to get stuck with a terrible deal that will make their traditional products more expensive and less competitive.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 27, 2023 12:03 PM (GZYu7)
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We saw some people putting their houses up for sale recently,
and then taking them off the market.
The reason?
They weren't moving to another city and found that a new house would probably be a pretty big downgrade from their current house. Unless they moved far out of town.
Now, lots of home repair/renovation.
and then taking them off the market.
The reason?
They weren't moving to another city and found that a new house would probably be a pretty big downgrade from their current house. Unless they moved far out of town.
Now, lots of home repair/renovation.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2023 12:03 PM (QzZeQ)
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263 Ford had to exit sedans and make giant trucks because of the CAFE standards that make anything larger than a golf cart or smaller than a MRAP impossible to build economically.
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (I/Qkd)
They have different work/union structures.
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (I/Qkd)
They have different work/union structures.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 12:03 PM (xcxpd)
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My city contracted recycling company won't take "soiled" pizza boxes.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 27, 2023 11:09 AM (XHWSH)
That's what burn barrels are for. Burned two gallons of ancient stinky gasoline in mine yesterday. Made a cheery blaze on a cold day.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 27, 2023 11:09 AM (XHWSH)
That's what burn barrels are for. Burned two gallons of ancient stinky gasoline in mine yesterday. Made a cheery blaze on a cold day.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 27, 2023 12:04 PM (V15q6)
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268 263 Ford had to exit sedans and make giant trucks because of the CAFE standards that make anything larger than a golf cart or smaller than a MRAP impossible to build economically.
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (I/Qkd)
They have different work/union structures.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 12:03 PM (xcxpd)
GM hasn't been forced to exit the sedan market.
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (I/Qkd)
They have different work/union structures.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 12:03 PM (xcxpd)
GM hasn't been forced to exit the sedan market.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 27, 2023 12:04 PM (eYoxG)
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I should note it is the case that margins are higher on sedans for the Asian companies due to the unions, but Ford has issues specific to them beyond that.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 27, 2023 12:05 PM (eYoxG)
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GM hasn't been forced to exit the sedan market.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 27, 2023 12:04 PM (eYoxG)
GM sedans are hot garbage.
GM hasn't been forced to exit the sedan market.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 27, 2023 12:04 PM (eYoxG)
GM sedans are hot garbage.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 12:05 PM (Zz0t1)
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Ford had to exit sedans and make giant trucks because of the CAFE standards that make anything larger than a golf cart or smaller than a MRAP impossible to build economically.
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (I/Qkd)
They have different work/union structures.
Agree. The point is that it isn't the CAFE standards that are responsible for Ford's (and GM's) demise. It's other sorts of stupid decisions on their part, like agreeing to absurd UAW demands and going all in on EVs.
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (I/Qkd)
They have different work/union structures.
Agree. The point is that it isn't the CAFE standards that are responsible for Ford's (and GM's) demise. It's other sorts of stupid decisions on their part, like agreeing to absurd UAW demands and going all in on EVs.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:05 PM (I/Qkd)
274
Thank you for sharing some good news.
Posted by: Max Power at October 27, 2023 12:06 PM (q177U)
275
This busty blonde in a one-piece wants to remind people that nuclear power is technically "renewable" in the old-school definition:
https://is.gd/TbY3i7
https://is.gd/TbY3i7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 12:06 PM (ELpxa)
276
They don't know anyone who was offput by Dylan Mulvaney on the beer can, either.
Posted by: mnw at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (NLIak)
That really wasn't a thing.
They don't know anyone who was offput by Dylan Mulvaney on the beer can, either.
Posted by: mnw at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (NLIak)
That really wasn't a thing.
Posted by: Dana White at October 27, 2023 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)
277
More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
This, Dominos has gone to shit in the last year. it used to be decent, if not great, fast pizza that was inexpensive.
now it's kinda inexpensive pizza that usually edible...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
This, Dominos has gone to shit in the last year. it used to be decent, if not great, fast pizza that was inexpensive.
now it's kinda inexpensive pizza that usually edible...
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 27, 2023 12:07 PM (KZaqS)
278
That's what burn barrels are for. Burned two gallons of ancient stinky gasoline in mine yesterday. Made a cheery blaze on a cold day.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
55 gallon metal drum at Fix & Feed is $12.00.
Go inside and tell them you need one & they ring it up as "Burn Barrel".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
55 gallon metal drum at Fix & Feed is $12.00.
Go inside and tell them you need one & they ring it up as "Burn Barrel".
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 12:07 PM (Y2tls)
279
Are we at the part yet in the latest "mass shooting" hysteria when we find out he was "known" to the FBI?
Are we at the part yet in the latest "mass shooting" hysteria when we find out he was "known" to the FBI?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2023 12:07 PM (lPQ8c)
280
GM sedans are hot garbage.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 12:05 PM (Zz0t1)
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Government Motors is a health care company that make cars on the side...
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 27, 2023 12:05 PM (Zz0t1)
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Government Motors is a health care company that make cars on the side...
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 27, 2023 12:08 PM (ZV+pB)
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now it's kinda inexpensive pizza that usually edible...
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 27, 2023 12:07 PM
Pizza pizza!
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 27, 2023 12:07 PM
Pizza pizza!
Posted by: Little Caesar's at October 27, 2023 12:08 PM (YmEis)
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>>>Fund managers who lost their shirts (and their customers’ shirts) on “clean energy” investments --
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Notice Vanguard wasn't mentioned. They took my shirt but didn't lose theirs. Money shifters I say.
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Notice Vanguard wasn't mentioned. They took my shirt but didn't lose theirs. Money shifters I say.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 27, 2023 12:08 PM (1WyJ3)
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256 Madison
I call it the "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" effect.
One of the articles linked at the Morning Rant points out that illegal immigrants who've entered the U.S., under Biden alone, would be the 13th largest state if they all lived in the same place.
I call that terrifying.
I call it the "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" effect.
One of the articles linked at the Morning Rant points out that illegal immigrants who've entered the U.S., under Biden alone, would be the 13th largest state if they all lived in the same place.
I call that terrifying.
Posted by: mnw at October 27, 2023 12:08 PM (NLIak)
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>>275 This busty blonde in a one-piece wants to remind people that nuclear power is technically "renewable" in the old-school definition:
https://is.gd/TbY3i7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Is she testing out her new 'Geiger counter' with her right hand?
https://is.gd/TbY3i7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Is she testing out her new 'Geiger counter' with her right hand?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 27, 2023 12:09 PM (l10hq)
285
Aah, I confused Jacob's Ladder with the Tesla Coil.
Similar, but not identical, although I have no clue what a young Tim Robbins has to do with any of this.
Similar, but not identical, although I have no clue what a young Tim Robbins has to do with any of this.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 27, 2023 12:09 PM (ufFY8)
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THE MORNING RANT: Some Good News! ESG Investments & “Clean Energy” Projects Are Failing
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They always were.
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They always were.
Posted by: Axeman at October 27, 2023 12:09 PM (krQz2)
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Definitely a tough market. Tough to downsize in.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 27, 2023 11:59 AM (sX1BW)
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Also tough to escape a blue hellhole.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 27, 2023 11:59 AM (sX1BW)
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Also tough to escape a blue hellhole.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 27, 2023 12:09 PM (DRSnL)
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277 More importantly, when does Dominos crust stop tasting like their pizza boxes?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
This, Dominos has gone to shit in the last year. it used to be decent, if not great, fast pizza that was inexpensive.
now it's kinda inexpensive pizza that usually edible...
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 27, 2023 12:07 PM (KZaqS)
We've switched to Tombstone pizza instead (we do sometimes go for Pizza Hut still). If I buy on sale, I can get a decent - if not great- pizza for 3 or 4 bucks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 11:19 AM (xcxpd)
This, Dominos has gone to shit in the last year. it used to be decent, if not great, fast pizza that was inexpensive.
now it's kinda inexpensive pizza that usually edible...
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 27, 2023 12:07 PM (KZaqS)
We've switched to Tombstone pizza instead (we do sometimes go for Pizza Hut still). If I buy on sale, I can get a decent - if not great- pizza for 3 or 4 bucks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 12:09 PM (xcxpd)
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Thank you for the kind words, ShainS.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 27, 2023 12:10 PM (9YcfW)
290
BOSS HAZ A NOOD
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2023 12:10 PM (fwDg9)
291
What about that super battery someone mentioned the other night - the one you can charge in 10 minutes and go 1000 miles on a charge?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM (63Dwl)
Can you say "vaporware"? They tested something in the lab, extrapolated to a car-sized battery, and made a headline. It won't scale, and if it did, it would be incredibly dangerous.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2023 11:21 AM (63Dwl)
Can you say "vaporware"? They tested something in the lab, extrapolated to a car-sized battery, and made a headline. It won't scale, and if it did, it would be incredibly dangerous.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 27, 2023 12:10 PM (V15q6)
292
>>>55 gallon metal drum at Fix & Feed is $12.00.
Go inside and tell them you need one & they ring it up as "Burn Barrel".
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 12:07 PM (Y2tls)
I remember lighting the burn barrel with my dad. But then, that was back when you could burn your leaves along the curb.
Go inside and tell them you need one & they ring it up as "Burn Barrel".
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2023 12:07 PM (Y2tls)
I remember lighting the burn barrel with my dad. But then, that was back when you could burn your leaves along the curb.
Posted by: Turn 2 at October 27, 2023 12:11 PM (JfxgE)
293
Government Motors is a health care company that make cars on the side...
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 27, 2023 12:08 PM (ZV+pB)
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A "car" company whose mission is probably to pay for transition surgeries--like our military.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 27, 2023 12:08 PM (ZV+pB)
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A "car" company whose mission is probably to pay for transition surgeries--like our military.
Posted by: Axeman at October 27, 2023 12:11 PM (krQz2)
294
This busty blonde in a one-piece wants to remind people that nuclear power is technically "renewable" in the old-school definition:
https://is.gd/TbY3i7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
She looks like her hourly rate is posted on her OnlyFans.
https://is.gd/TbY3i7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
She looks like her hourly rate is posted on her OnlyFans.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023 12:11 PM (xcxpd)
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The OP can be read by someone who doesn't understand this site or conservatives generally as people being against the idea of "clean" energy just because they hate the idea. Which I don't believe is true. We are against the fraud that is going on right now in the name of "climate change" and against reducing ourselves to poverty on the alter of "green energy". But, if someone came up with a truly cheap and reliable way to produce energy out of fairy farts tomorrow, I'd be all on board with using that energy.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (ky+MF)
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Our current non-green energy was an improvement from what came before it. Always looking for the next thing, but unlike green energy, our current dominant energy sources actually improved upon the older forms in cost, efficiency, and flexibility. Green energy went backwards, to resolve a non-existent problem, because we all had so much money we thought we had become little gods. Reality has reared its ugly head. Dumb people are scurrying for cover.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (ky+MF)
==
Our current non-green energy was an improvement from what came before it. Always looking for the next thing, but unlike green energy, our current dominant energy sources actually improved upon the older forms in cost, efficiency, and flexibility. Green energy went backwards, to resolve a non-existent problem, because we all had so much money we thought we had become little gods. Reality has reared its ugly head. Dumb people are scurrying for cover.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 27, 2023 12:11 PM (GZYu7)
296
This busty blonde in a one-piece wants to remind people that nuclear power is technically "renewable" in the old-school definition:
https://is.gd/TbY3i7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
That the same orange color of the dress Big Tit Donna was wearing yesterday. Her bewbs are as big also.
https://is.gd/TbY3i7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
That the same orange color of the dress Big Tit Donna was wearing yesterday. Her bewbs are as big also.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 27, 2023 12:12 PM (ufFY8)
297
I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
Jacob's Ladder, small:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYy5NZ4hWA
Jacob's Ladder, spectacular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXiOQCRiSp0
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (i9ffA)
Looks like Ewww Toob is blocking anyone using Ad Blockers. Even Brave doesn't work without its ad block feature being disabled. FOAD, Google.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
Jacob's Ladder, small:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYy5NZ4hWA
Jacob's Ladder, spectacular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXiOQCRiSp0
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 27, 2023 11:45 AM (i9ffA)
Looks like Ewww Toob is blocking anyone using Ad Blockers. Even Brave doesn't work without its ad block feature being disabled. FOAD, Google.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at October 27, 2023 12:13 PM (h4nev)
298
My favorite one on the Carbon Free scam.
"Carbon Free Sugar!"
Glucose: C6 H12 O6
Remove Carbon:
H2O
I don't need to pay for that.
"Carbon Free Sugar!"
Glucose: C6 H12 O6
Remove Carbon:
H2O
I don't need to pay for that.
Posted by: NR Pax at October 27, 2023 12:14 PM (4olE8)
299
It's a start, but until these funds which by their nature conspire against the people are exploded into millions of pieces, they will keep trying
Posted by: JD at October 27, 2023 12:15 PM (BRYPU)
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273 Ford had to exit sedans and make giant trucks because of the CAFE standards that make anything larger than a golf cart or smaller than a MRAP impossible to build economically.
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes
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America's auto manufacturers have always had a quality control problem. Their assembly line workers never GAS; that's how the Japanese got a toe hold here in the first place. They were better.
That said, nothing rides smoother than an old land cruiser and they were getting much better. They would still be here and better - a 396, 427, 454 with modern electronics? - over all.
CAFE killed them. I miss my LeSabre
And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes
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America's auto manufacturers have always had a quality control problem. Their assembly line workers never GAS; that's how the Japanese got a toe hold here in the first place. They were better.
That said, nothing rides smoother than an old land cruiser and they were getting much better. They would still be here and better - a 396, 427, 454 with modern electronics? - over all.
CAFE killed them. I miss my LeSabre
Posted by: Braenyard at October 27, 2023 12:16 PM (1WyJ3)
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GM hasn't been forced to exit the sedan market.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 27, 2023
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Buick chose to ditch sedans. I'm pretty sure Cadillac still offers some. Does Chevy still have the Impala and Malibu, etc.?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 27, 2023
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Buick chose to ditch sedans. I'm pretty sure Cadillac still offers some. Does Chevy still have the Impala and Malibu, etc.?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 12:16 PM (J2vNu)
302
My favorite one on the Carbon Free scam.
"Carbon Free Sugar!"
Glucose: C6 H12 O6
Remove Carbon:
H2O
I don't need to pay for that.
Posted by: NR Pax at October 27, 2023 12:14 PM (4olE
++++
LOL
"Carbon Free Sugar!"
Glucose: C6 H12 O6
Remove Carbon:
H2O
I don't need to pay for that.
Posted by: NR Pax at October 27, 2023 12:14 PM (4olE
++++
LOL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 12:16 PM (ELpxa)
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And yet, the Japanese, Koreans, and others manage to pull it off.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (I/Qkd)
A) it is a choice for best market niche, Ford sold trucks best.
b. They all have better access to South America, Asia and Africa where there is not insane mileage rules and those markets subsidize the US market.
How many cars sold in Mexico can be sold in the US and why not?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 27, 2023 12:02 PM (I/Qkd)
A) it is a choice for best market niche, Ford sold trucks best.
b. They all have better access to South America, Asia and Africa where there is not insane mileage rules and those markets subsidize the US market.
How many cars sold in Mexico can be sold in the US and why not?
Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2023 12:17 PM (xhaym)
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>>>Looks like Ewww Toob is blocking anyone using Ad Blockers. Even Brave doesn't work without its ad block feature being disabled. FOAD, Google.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy
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I understand that they need to advertise.
They need to understand that their ads should be attractive
not repulsive.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy
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I understand that they need to advertise.
They need to understand that their ads should be attractive
not repulsive.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 27, 2023 12:19 PM (1WyJ3)
305
We saw some people putting their houses up for sale recently,
and then taking them off the market.
The reason?
They weren't moving to another city and found that a new house would probably be a pretty big downgrade from their current house. Unless they moved far out of town.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2023 12:03 PM (QzZeQ)
After my divorce, I was looking to downsize. B/c of the craziness of the market (everything in my area increased in price by at least $100k over the last couple of years) and the high interest rates, I can't buy a smaller house without paying more than I pay now. Sure, I have a lot of equity in my house b/c of the increase in price, but it doesn't help when i'd be paying more than double the interest rate.
and then taking them off the market.
The reason?
They weren't moving to another city and found that a new house would probably be a pretty big downgrade from their current house. Unless they moved far out of town.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2023 12:03 PM (QzZeQ)
After my divorce, I was looking to downsize. B/c of the craziness of the market (everything in my area increased in price by at least $100k over the last couple of years) and the high interest rates, I can't buy a smaller house without paying more than I pay now. Sure, I have a lot of equity in my house b/c of the increase in price, but it doesn't help when i'd be paying more than double the interest rate.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 27, 2023 12:20 PM (ky+MF)
306
I just want one of those V-shaped devices where an electric spark rises from the bottom to the top, over and over again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
A Jacob's Ladder? I built one from the HV supply from an old computer monitor.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 27, 2023 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
A Jacob's Ladder? I built one from the HV supply from an old computer monitor.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 27, 2023 12:20 PM (V15q6)
307
There's not much of a market in those third world countries for land cruisers.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 27, 2023 12:20 PM (1WyJ3)
308
We've switched to Tombstone pizza instead (we do sometimes go for Pizza Hut still). If I buy on sale, I can get a decent - if not great- pizza for 3 or 4 bucks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023
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Just for fun, I'm going to try making my own pizza this evening. I've bought a crust, pepperoni, and pizza sauce, and I'll get some sliceable mozzarella at the store tonight.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 27, 2023
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Just for fun, I'm going to try making my own pizza this evening. I've bought a crust, pepperoni, and pizza sauce, and I'll get some sliceable mozzarella at the store tonight.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 12:21 PM (J2vNu)
309
National pizza joint around here...Ive banished the name, but creator got fired for speech. Peyton Manning pitched them.
I tried to go in and order a pizza. Nope, online only. Un-american I say.
I tried to go in and order a pizza. Nope, online only. Un-american I say.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 27, 2023 12:21 PM (Z8Yh2)
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National pizza joint around here...Ive banished the name, but creator got fired for speech. Peyton Manning pitched them.
I tried to go in and order a pizza. Nope, online only. Un-american I say.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 27, 2023
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Papa John's?
I tried to go in and order a pizza. Nope, online only. Un-american I say.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 27, 2023
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Papa John's?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 12:22 PM (J2vNu)
311
noodus ace
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 27, 2023 12:22 PM (J2vNu)
312
Our current non-green energy was an improvement from what came before it. Always looking for the next thing, but unlike green energy, our current dominant energy sources actually improved upon the older forms in cost, efficiency, and flexibility. Green energy went backwards, to resolve a non-existent problem, because we all had so much money we thought we had become little gods. Reality has reared its ugly head. Dumb people are scurrying for cover.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 27, 2023 12:11 PM (GZYu7)
I don't disagree, I was just saying that anyone with a mind would always support cheaper, cleaner, reliable energy. Who would turn down paying less for energy and having less potential pollution? Nobody. That isn't our issue with the crazy green agenda. It's that it was a fraud to begin with - wind and solar are nowhere near ready to replace oil, gas, and coal.
If the greens truly wanted cheaper, cleaner energy, we'd be building nuke plants left and right.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 27, 2023 12:11 PM (GZYu7)
I don't disagree, I was just saying that anyone with a mind would always support cheaper, cleaner, reliable energy. Who would turn down paying less for energy and having less potential pollution? Nobody. That isn't our issue with the crazy green agenda. It's that it was a fraud to begin with - wind and solar are nowhere near ready to replace oil, gas, and coal.
If the greens truly wanted cheaper, cleaner energy, we'd be building nuke plants left and right.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 27, 2023 12:23 PM (ky+MF)
313
Papa f'n John's correct.
I was already scraping the bottom of the barrel going there. I wanted pizza damnit.
I was already scraping the bottom of the barrel going there. I wanted pizza damnit.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 27, 2023 12:24 PM (Z8Yh2)
314
Ah. No real way to reuse or recycle fiberglass.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:48 AM (ELpxa)
Chip it up, and burn it in coal-fired power plants. It's fuel, but not real great fuel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 27, 2023 11:48 AM (ELpxa)
Chip it up, and burn it in coal-fired power plants. It's fuel, but not real great fuel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 27, 2023 12:26 PM (V15q6)
315
I have formally ordered the managers of my various retirement funds to keep me out of any ESG fund.
Did so months ago.
Did so months ago.
Posted by: Patrick Carroll at October 27, 2023 01:08 PM (7Ozoq)
316
Too bad all these 20th century investors with their focus on actual returns have survived into the 21st century. With a firm focus on ESG scores instead of ROI, the real investor looting would have been glorious!
Posted by: JB1000 at October 27, 2023 01:31 PM (5HgY/)
317
What's amazing - what did it actually fucking take to roll this shit back?
We stopped drinking bud light. We stopped watching Disney.
That gave the polticians a bit of spine. A tiny bit. They said, well we won't invest the money from our state in these funds.
That is it. That is all it took. In six months or so thewhole thing starts to collapse.
Because it is unsustainable without our active participation.
We stopped drinking bud light. We stopped watching Disney.
That gave the polticians a bit of spine. A tiny bit. They said, well we won't invest the money from our state in these funds.
That is it. That is all it took. In six months or so thewhole thing starts to collapse.
Because it is unsustainable without our active participation.
Posted by: Fire! Bad! at October 27, 2023 01:46 PM (NR7jv)
318
Again, if we don't play along it collapses.
Wind, especially offshore wind, is not financially viable without massive subsidies. It simply isn't. No subsides, and it collapses immediately. To put it another way, the subsides = the entire profit margin for the project. Without them the projects are a dead loss - they will never sell enough electricity to pay for the capital costs.
Wind, especially offshore wind, is not financially viable without massive subsidies. It simply isn't. No subsides, and it collapses immediately. To put it another way, the subsides = the entire profit margin for the project. Without them the projects are a dead loss - they will never sell enough electricity to pay for the capital costs.
Posted by: Fire! Bad! at October 27, 2023 01:50 PM (NR7jv)
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"Who would turn down paying less for energy and having less potential pollution? Nobody. That isn't our issue with the crazy green agenda. It's that it was a fraud to begin with - wind and solar are nowhere near ready to replace oil, gas, and coal." Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 27, 2023 12:23 PM (ky+MF
DING! WE HAVE A WINNER!
They want to electrify everything - but they also want to raise the price of electricity. THAT WON"T WORK.
Clean energy must be cheaper, or none of this works. It can't be subsidized or mandated.
DING! WE HAVE A WINNER!
They want to electrify everything - but they also want to raise the price of electricity. THAT WON"T WORK.
Clean energy must be cheaper, or none of this works. It can't be subsidized or mandated.
Posted by: Fire! Bad! at October 27, 2023 01:53 PM (NR7jv)
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Mulvaney on the beer can - that was the moment. How many loyal Bud drinkers saw that and thought - they never put my fucking picture on the can.
Add to that the exec discussing how their current customers were subpar, and how they need to appeal to new, better customers.
Add to that the exec discussing how their current customers were subpar, and how they need to appeal to new, better customers.
Posted by: Fire! Bad! at October 27, 2023 01:58 PM (NR7jv)
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Write more, thats all I have to say. Literally, it seems as though you relied on the
video to make your point. You definitely know what youre
talking about, why waste your intelligence on just posting videos to your site when you could be giving us something informative to read?
video to make your point. You definitely know what youre
talking about, why waste your intelligence on just posting videos to your site when you could be giving us something informative to read?
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Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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