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DeSantis Now Sending Drones, Ammo, Weapons, and Bulletpoof Vests to Israel;
The AP Begins Scheming About Arresting Him for Arms Dealing
DeSantis is conducting his own foreign policy.
Someone in America has to.It's so sinister for a political figure to act in accord with his constituent's wishes. At least, it's sinister if a Republican does this. In fairness, we don't see much of it so I can almost understand the surprise. Meanwhile, Merrick Garland arrests and surveils all of Biden's political enemies and The Hill just applauds.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has sent drones, weapons and ammunition to Israel to support its war against Hamas, a move that bolsters his pro-Israel stance in the battle for the GOP presidential nomination.
Jeremy Redfern, a spokesperson for DeSantis’s office, said that the Israeli Consul General in Miami requested Florida send drones, body armor and helmets to Israel for first responders to use. Redfern said that cargo planes carrying the items, which also included hospital and health-care supplies, were contracted by Florida. He also said the office worked with the Consul General "to help get weapons and ammunition to Israel through private parties." He did not say who these private parties were. Redfern also did not comment on what kinds of weapons were provided or how many drones and rounds of ammunition were sent to Israel. DeSantis has been an outspoken supporter of Israel and has vowed that Florida will do as much as it can to aid the nation in its efforts against Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organization by the United States. He issued an executive order earlier this month authorizing the rescue of Floridians in Israel using chartered flights.
The AP immediately began scheming about what laws it could claim DeSantis should be imprisoned for. Of course.
It's unclear whether DeSantis coordinated shipments of any weapons with the Biden administration. The Commerce Department regulates the shipment abroad of many types of U.S. weapons and technology. "It is not illegal for the governor of a state to offer a measure of foreign assistance to another country," said John Kirby, a spokesperson for the White House's National Security Council. "There are laws and regulations which govern how the export process is handled and that's all done through Commerce. I couldn't speak with authority today about whether the governor has checked all those boxes or not." The Commerce Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The export of military equipment would typically require a license or some other authorization from either the Commerce or State Departments, depending on the precise item, said Thomas Krueger, a lawyer at the Akin Gump law firm who specializes in international trade and previously served as the director of strategic trade and nonproliferation at the White House's National Security Council. "It really all depends on the specifications of the items themselves, to determine what kind of export authorization would be required," Krueger said.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:17 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:17 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 26, 2023 03:19 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: dave's not here, man at October 26, 2023 03:19 PM (raPis)
John Kerry and Barack Obama say "that's just awful".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 26, 2023 03:19 PM (I/Qkd)
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:19 PM (sX1BW)
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Right there in a nutshell the problem with govt. The more words in a title the more bullshit the job.
Posted by: Montec at October 26, 2023 03:19 PM (P5BwU)
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (Kdi1r)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (63Dwl)
but not a word about newsom, china, & the Logan Act
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (uyxyn)
Pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire/smoke is a Class 4 felony almost everywhere in the US including DC.
Bowman got the lesser charge of 'A false emergency report' which is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 6 months in jail and a $1000 fine. Bowman just has to pay the fine and write a letter of apology to the Capitol Police.
Wow. If any Republican had pulled this stunt, they would have been banished from Congress, jailed, and fined. FFS.
Posted by: Cheri at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (Kdi1r)
DeSantis Now Sending Drones, Ammo, Weapons, and Bulletpoof Vests to Israel;
The AP Begins Scheming About Arresting Him for Arms Dealing
Does ammo count as "arms dealing"? If not, then I fail to see what arms he has dealt?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (I/Qkd)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (Edo3/)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 26, 2023 03:21 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Iris at October 26, 2023 03:21 PM (NaH5I)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:21 PM (Edo3/)
Hopefully succession is not too far off.
Free State Of (Fill In The Blank).
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 26, 2023 03:21 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (63Dwl)
Videogame Kirby >>> John Kirby
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 26, 2023 03:22 PM (zjgNU)
At least, it's sinister if a Republican does this. In fairness, we don't see much of it so I can almost understand the surprise.
It's outrageous! Beyond the pale! Oh, is our state gathering up more body armor and confiscated weapons to send to Ukraine? That's totes cool...
Posted by: Military Moron at October 26, 2023 03:22 PM (/FOT2)
Posted by: Montec at October 26, 2023 03:22 PM (P5BwU)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 26, 2023 03:22 PM (I/Qkd)
"... But when I assembled all the baby carriage parts, I always ended up with a howitzer."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 26, 2023 03:22 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:22 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Eromero at October 26, 2023 03:22 PM (KiuiP)
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:19 PM (sX1BW)
Agreed. Heavy D doesn't need to hang with the rest of the also-rans looking to unseat Trump. He's a governor. The UK has a Shadow Cabinet that does something similar. We should be doing that.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 26, 2023 03:23 PM (4cPur)
Posted by: Elmer Fudd at October 26, 2023 03:23 PM (lf83v)
Hopefully succession is not too far off.
Free State Of (Fill In The Blank).
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 26, 2023 03:21 PM (R/m4+)
It's spelled with an "e"
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 26, 2023 03:23 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 26, 2023 03:23 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 26, 2023 03:23 PM (I/Qkd)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (63Dwl)
Videogame Kirby >>> John Kirby
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Funfact the "inspiration" for Kirby was the Kirby vacuum. That's why he sucks in everything in the screen
*the more you know*
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 26, 2023 03:23 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (MHnCY)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:21 PM (Edo3/)
^^ I think we offer libtards a "free trip to NYC" where they stay. Ability to leave depends upon ability to recite the preable to the Declaration of Independence. Just make it the dystopian liberal enclave that it identifies as. With walls.
Posted by: Iris at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (NaH5I)
*cough*secession*cough*
Posted by: Archimedes at October 26, 2023 03:23 PM (I/Qkd)
He could be a Kamala fan.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (4PZHB)
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Plenty of states conducting foreign policy: CA and NY come to mind, firstly. TX does it cuz border. Dittos AZ, NM.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (Kdi1r)
This was unexpected.
Posted by: EFG at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (Ae67h)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (2ShPH)
so whose stock is he raiding? FL State Police? Local police?
Posted by: DB - around the clock, around the world at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (geLO8)
On the one hand, foreign policy is the exclusive domain of the federal government.
On the other hand, the Democrats (well, more accurately, the Uniparty) engage in informal "pocket" foreign policy all the damn time, flitting all over the globe without so much as a raised eyebrow. Newsom contracts with Chinese firms to provide subsidized PPE during COVID, Nancy Pelosi goes to Taiwan, John F'in Kerry has his own personal State Department for Iran, etc.
So, objectively, this is *wrong* and DeSantis should not be doing it because it is the prerogative of the central government and all others are expressly prohibited. But we're also post-law and post-custom and this kind of thing has essentially become the norm - so play through.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (ELpxa)
Posted by: Archimedes
As we're all aware now, it depends on the prosecutor and the district.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 26, 2023
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If you remember his name, you probably recall Bullwinkle featured a gag with a bowler hat, the "Kurward Derby." The audience was intended to get it; Kirby was Garry Moore's TV sidekick at the time (GM's was the show that brought Carol Burnett to prominence). Kirby himself was incensed and threatened to sue. Nothing came of it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 26, 2023 03:25 PM (17s+e)
If this is a prelude to national divorce, I'm all for it.
Long live the Divided States of America!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:25 PM (dGCAG)
Only the US government is allowed to do that.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 26, 2023 03:25 PM (TzW+Y)
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Hell, Jackson raised an army bigger than the US Army and advertised he was going to take FL. The Spanish up and ran away.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:25 PM (Kdi1r)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 26, 2023 03:25 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (63Dwl)
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George and Marian Kirby >> Durward Kirby >> John Kirby
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 26, 2023 03:26 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Fallujah Socialist Club- Antifa at October 26, 2023 03:26 PM (W+TLY)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 26, 2023 03:26 PM (4PZHB)
US governors look for ways to aid Ukraine, from field hospital kits to rebuilding funds
By Maeve Reston and Eric Bradner, CNN
Published 3:00 PM EDT, Thu March 17, 2022
Posted by: Drive by at October 26, 2023 03:26 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (Edo3/)
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Link? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: DB - around the clock, around the world at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (0N1h0)
On the one hand, foreign policy is the exclusive domain of the federal government.
On the other hand, the Democrats (well, more accurately, the Uniparty) engage in informal "pocket" foreign policy all the damn time, flitting all over the globe without so much as a raised eyebrow. Newsom contracts with Chinese firms to provide subsidized PPE during COVID, Nancy Pelosi goes to Taiwan, John F'in Kerry has his own personal State Department for Iran, etc.
So, objectively, this is *wrong* and DeSantis should not be doing it because it is the prerogative of the central government and all others are expressly prohibited. But we're also post-law and post-custom and this kind of thing has essentially become the norm - so play through.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (ELpxa)
Better yet, red states should work collectively to conduct foreign policy and do border control.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (eYoxG)
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Probably a lot of them. Just like how Abbott and DeSantis and various others could be imprisoned for trying to tackle the US border. There are things - including border control and foreign policy - that are exclusive federal prerogatives. I am sure it is all illegal and it is probably a pretty easy case to make.
But the reality is muddier, because literally *everyone* does this. Cases against Abbot and DeSantis are *already* slam-dunks, and yet both are also walking around as free men. There's a reason for that, it isn't just because both are powerful men and powerful men are special. It's also because a retaliatory action would almost certainly come - from some quarter - against Uniparty operatives.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (ELpxa)
1st is the US.
Who sends money directly to Hamas and indirectly to Hamas via Iran.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (TzW+Y)
so whose stock is he raiding? FL State Police? Local police?
Posted by: DB - around the clock, around the world
Why the fuck do police need military gear, anyway?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: Skip at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Archimedes
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Yes, you would be surprised what ITAR covers down to requiring export licenses for parts for various firearms. There are also some international treaties that have increased ITAR coverage over items. A lot of domestic companies actually warn consumers that purchases and shipping abroad of parts or ammo will not be allowed via their website.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (TKiGG)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM (J2vNu)
I remember that episode! Didn't need to know who Derwood Kirby was to enjoy the gag, and if that silly poofter was all upset about it, good.
Nobody today would know you ever existed if it wasn't for Moose and Squirrel.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Marcus T at
"The shooter was known to authorities"
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: runner at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (E6cDv)
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (B3eBA)
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Two things.
1. I doubt small-arms ammunition and non-weapon support equipment (e.g., scopes or drones or whatnot) have special rules.
2. You guys did "Fast and Furious." Blow me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (ELpxa)
Posted by: Ferd Berfal at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (EP8ZQ)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (JrojV)
Victims' names and stories of heroism are starting to come out. Honor them, pray for them and their families.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (N39Ws)
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I ran into Kirby a couple of weeks ago at an Indian Restaurant. He's is a tiny little guy.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (Kdi1r)
Posted by: Worse than Hitler at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (6z4VY)
Posted by: DB - around the clock, around the world at October 26, 2023
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One of Endora's nicknames for Darrin, as I recall.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (J2vNu)
If De Santis invades D.C., I'm definitely on board.
Posted by: Paco at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (njExo)
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (OUMaO)
For the coming Civil War, duh.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (dGCAG)
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Are you comfortable with the governor of a state with a heavy Jewish population sending weapons to the State of Israel following Hamas' terror of Israel?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (Edo3/)
DeSantis is conducting his own foreign policy.
Someone in America has to.
Actually, Bai-Den IS conducting foreign policy.
It's just that it's "Fuck Israel, Kill the Joos"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: Toby at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (og5mY)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (RIvkX)
Until sanctuary cities are federally prosecuted they can eat shit.
Posted by: Drive by at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at October 26, 2023 03:28 PM (xcxpd)
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"Felonious mopery in the Nth degree!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (B3eBA)
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (OUMaO)
For the coming Civil War, duh.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (dGCAG)
Meal Team Six was on full display on the news coverage in Lewiston, ME last night.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Jukin
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Their 'Fact Checks' are a source of amusment. They use DNC press releases as verification.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (XeU6L)
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Reminds me of John Brown. He didn't have any pikes or cutlasses, though.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (Kdi1r)
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Are you comfortable with the governor of a state with a heavy Jewish population sending weapons to the State of Israel following Hamas' terror of Israel?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (sX1BW)
It has less to do with the specifics than the concept of each state independently choosing whatever side they want on any conflict they please globally. What if New York decided to send weapons to Hamas?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Iris at October 26, 2023 03:24 PM
No way! We moved out of NYC because that place is awful! Too expensive, high crime, dirty, non-responsive government, etc. You'd have to be crazy to move there!
We do miss the liberal policies, though, so we're actively trying to turn Florida Blue!!!!
Posted by: Blue State Locusts in Florida at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (/FOT2)
Imagine New York or Michigan sending guns and bullets to Hamas
Posted by: DB - around the clock, around the world at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (geLO8)
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If you give away your surplus, you can more easily purchase new gear.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (sX1BW)
Long live the Divided States of America!
Posted by: BurtTC'
It's starting to look like individual states are beginning to make their policies both domestically and tellingly, in foreign relations. That's the precursor to a breakup. When individual states bypass the Federal State Department in conducting foreign relations and involvement in international conflicts, it's the beginning of the end.
Posted by: LenNeal at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (/BBNv)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (0N1h0)
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I'm basically with you. According to the rules (the official ones) this is at best inappropriate and more likely it is totally illegal.
But according to the *real* rules, ambitious power players do whatever the hell they want and muddy up foreign policy all the time. I'm tired of following the Official Rules while the opponent follows the Real Rules. Since this is also for a purpose I generally support, more power to him. Rock and roll.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (ELpxa)
Hopefully succession is not too far off.
Free State Of (Fill In The Blank).
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 26, 2023 03:21 PM (R/m4+)
There can be no secession, only the murder of all Floridians by federal troops in order to preserve the Union! The Civil War settled this once and for all 160 years ago!
Posted by: Things I learned here, oddly enough at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (B9RjC)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)
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Well, we had a shit ton of MRAPS and used combat equipment. Police Departments merely had to ask for them and they were given.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (Kdi1r)
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max
the war on druggz and stuff
Posted by: DB - around the clock, around the world at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (Kdi1r)
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I posed it more specifically because we need to act like we have the moral high ground - which we do.
The former is acceptable but the latter isn't. Not because of some general rule, but because one is moral and the other isn't.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (sX1BW)
DeSantis is conducting his own foreign policy.
You mean, like, when Nancy Pelosi did the same thing with Assad in Syria back in GWB's day?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (06dy/)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (NpAcC)
Dix-McGuire
Another Pizza delivery?
I was at Dix when all the Afghans were there. Now THAT was a sight and an experience
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (PQ4m2)
Posted by: Drive by at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (eYoxG)
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Then they will, and nothing will stop them - regardless of DeSantis' actions. There are many private little foreign policy operations all over the place, and the federal government tolerates *all* of them without ever throwing the crook in jail. So it's about time that we play, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (ELpxa)
Why the fuck do police need military gear, anyway?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President!
They don't, but the Army was practically giving it away back when we had a "peace dividend".
"It's got an Army motor, a four hundred and forty cubic inch plant. It's got Army tires, Army suspension, Army shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters, so it'll run good on regular gas."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: DB - aro
hamas is a terrorist organization; if that happens...they will probably get a slap on the wrist...
Posted by: runner at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (E6cDv)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (xhaym)
I suppose in principle I'm against DeSantis sending arms to, well, anyone.
I wouldn't like it if New York started sending arms to the Palis as a f'instance.
And there are some laws that pretty much guarantees that the US has one foreign policy as set by the Preezy.
All that being said, the "Biden" administration has been incredibly quiet and neutral about what their policy really is. So, as long as that's going on-
I suppose it's okay and even laudable that DeSantis is sending arms and military equipment to the Israelis.
He'd probably make a good activist President. As i've said before either Trump or him are okay in my book.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (QzZeQ)
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I've argued for the Negative Supremacy Clause.
That when the federal government fails to act, it abdicates its Constitutional power and the states can act under the 10th.
When the federal government fails to protect the border, it no longer has exclusive jurisdiction regarding the border.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (TzW+Y)
said John Kirby, a spokesperson for the White House's National Security Council.
Posted by: wth at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (v0R5T)
F*ck you all.
The left and their media make it REALLY hard to not shoot them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Another Pizza delivery?
I was at Dix when all the Afghans were there. Now THAT was a sight and an experience
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (PQ4m2)
*****
Yes. They're in lockdown mode.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (MoZTd)
Fix the cigarette lighter.
Posted by: Joliet Jake at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (B9RjC)
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We need to introduce this Lincoln Law to Divorce Court.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (Kdi1r)
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If you give away your surplus, you can more easily purchase new gear.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM
MRAPs and other large vehicles are not needed at the moment, and are expensive to maintain. If we give them to local communities, though, THEY'LL pay to maintain them, and we always maintain the right to recall then if needed.
Posted by: Department of Defense at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (/FOT2)
Posted by: InZona at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (u21f8)
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Drive by at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (FxH7T)
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (MvF+J)
I'm very interested to learn more about his reported two weeks in the boobie hatch. That seems like the kind of thing that would make him a prohibited person. If so, someone dropped the ball. Likely multiple someones.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (dGCAG)
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This oddly specific.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (ELpxa)
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at October 26, 2023 03:27 PM (OUMaO)
For the coming Civil War, duh.
Posted by: BurtTC at October
Cop kIlLer bULlitZ are everywhere!
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: wth at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: runner at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (E6cDv)
He's going off the reservation.
Oh, the horror.
he'll go up 2 to 5 points
Posted by: Braenyard at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (MHnCY)
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I posed it more specifically because we need to act like we have the moral high ground - which we do.
The former is acceptable but the latter isn't. Not because of some general rule, but because one is moral and the other isn't.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (sX1BW)
So take a more ambiguous conflict. The reason for the general rule primarily is to keep the states from going to war with one another, which under ordinary circumstances is a fairly undesirable outcome. States could've easily ended up supporting different sides in WW1.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (eYoxG)
If a State, like Calif, can have border check points looking for FRUIT, why the hell can't it control who its citizens are... and who gets the largesse from the public trust.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (QPmu4)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (63Dwl)
Videogame Kirby >>> John Kirby
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Funfact the "inspiration" for Kirby was the Kirby vacuum. That's why he sucks in everything in the screen
*the more you know*
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 26, 2023 03:23 PM (MGB5H)
No, Kirby was named after the lawyer John Kirby, who successfully beat Universal Studios when they sued Nintendo for copyright infringement over King Kong with the character of Donkey Kong. The developers wished to pay respect to their defender, and named him thus as the lead believed "Kirby" to be a strong name.
Posted by: Fringe at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (/Mj1R)
Last month the office of the Arizona AG, Kris Mayes, announced that the transfer violated three state statutes.
Last I heard is that they were shipped and don't know if they can get them back ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (v6XNK)
I was at Dix when all the Afghans were there. Now THAT was a sight and an experience
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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So, Camden became a more pleasant place?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (XeU6L)
"It's got an Army motor, a four hundred and forty cubic inch plant. It's got Army tires, Army suspension, Army shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters, so it'll run good on regular gas."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 26, 2023 03:32 PM (MoZTd)
Speaking of.....I finished my welding work the other day and got the new catalytic installed in my little Ranger. BOY is it MUCH happier. It's actually one I had for the wife's Explorer, but didn't work out in that, but the Ranger seems to love the more air flow.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Paco at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (njExo)
Posted by: runner at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (E6cDv)
........
Kinda like what Greasy Gavin was doing in China yesterday.
Posted by: wth at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (v0R5T)
DeSantis should send over some alligators and Burmese pythons to send down into the Gaza tunnels.
Posted by: wth at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (v0R5T)
Just the cockroaches are deadly weapons.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: wth
And a company full of "Florida Man"
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (Edo3/)
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (dGCAG)
++++
This oddly specific.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (ELpxa)
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Yes. And, oh my.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (JrojV)
I'm very interested to learn more about his reported two weeks in the boobie hatch. That seems like the kind of thing that would make him a prohibited person. If so, someone dropped the ball. Likely multiple someones.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (0N1h0)
Someone always drops the ball. Remember that church shooting in Texas a few years ago? I think, I may be wrong, it was an Air Force or Ex-Air Force guy. And the Air Force never reported he was unbalanced?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (PQ4m2)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (44ww/)
1. I doubt small-arms ammunition and non-weapon support equipment (e.g., scopes or drones or whatnot) have special rules.
2. You guys did "Fast and Furious." Blow me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Joe, here is the US Munitions List----
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/22/121.1
It is amended simply by rulemaking. Other laws also come into play when there is active warfare going on such as the Neutrality Act.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (TKiGG)
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But they didn't because there was only one side to support. No general rule was needed. Morality guided us in the right direction for a very long time. Now one side is completely immoral.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:37 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: wth
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Along with a few companies of Florida Man.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 26, 2023 03:37 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:33 PM (dGCAG)
Hey we Navy Guys never do that. LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 26, 2023 03:37 PM (PQ4m2)
Posted by: Toby at October 26, 2023 03:37 PM (og5mY)
Posted by: Max at October 26, 2023 03:37 PM (hEUXJ)
Posted by: Fringe
Well shit. Hat tip. Guess that old yarn I heard my whole childhood was a lie.
*hangs head*
*kicks rocks*
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (MGB5H)
I'm a Florida resident. I don't recall any vote on whether we wanted to send stuff paid for by Florida taxpayers to another country. What we really want is a governor to help with all the rising costs in the state especially insurance. We didn't elect him to abandon us and go run for president.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (WiAW9)
No, Kirby was named after the lawyer John Kirby, who successfully beat Universal Studios when they sued Nintendo for copyright infringement over King Kong with the character of Donkey Kong. The developers wished to pay respect to their defender, and named him thus as the lead believed "Kirby" to be a strong name.
Posted by: Fringe at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (/Mj1R)
I heard it was named after the General Franklin Kirby character in Schwarzenegger's Commando who mentored the John Matrix character and made him such a badass.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)
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Are you comfortable with the governor of a state with a heavy Jewish population sending weapons to the State of Israel following Hamas' terror of Israel?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (sX1BW)
It has less to do with the specifics than the concept of each state independently choosing whatever side they want on any conflict they please globally. What if New York decided to send weapons to Hamas?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (eYoxG)
Well I wouldn't die of surprise if that happened.
@BurtTC DSA! DSA! DSA!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: runner at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (E6cDv)
Posted by: Orson at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (dIske)
_______
They don't need no stinking laws to lock up Republicans!
But because DeMeatball is a controlled opposition cuck, he'll skate. All those conservative actions are just window dressing. He's a RINO inside.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (brAQZ)
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Reminds me of John Brown. He didn't have any pikes or cutlasses, though.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (Kdi1r)
John Brown did have pikes. He was going to arm runaway slaves with them.
John
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (N3zMI)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:39 PM (Edo3/)
Posted by: LenNeal at October 26, 2023 03:31 PM (/BBNv)
I'm so tired of Ukrainian mail order brides. If we can get back to Russian mail order brides, the way God intended, I'm all for states conducting their own foreign policy.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:39 PM (dGCAG)
I'm a Florida resident. I don't recall any vote on whether we wanted to send stuff paid for by Florida taxpayers to another country. What we really want is a governor to help with all the rising costs in the state especially insurance. We didn't elect him to abandon us and go run for president.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (WiAW9)
Bang on with that nic
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 26, 2023 03:39 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (44ww/)
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Work with elders, babies, or immuno-compromised people, then yes.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 26, 2023 03:39 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (TKiGG)
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So according to this, I doubt it is in violation in terms of export controls. Normal cased ammunition and non-automatic weapons aren't on that list and I doubt that Florida is sending heavier weapons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:39 PM (ELpxa)
Posted by: wth at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (v0R5T)
Abbott should send some feral hogs. That could end up being awesome in TWO ways.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Drive by at October 26, 2023 03:39 PM (MNhXM)
*the more you know*
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 26, 2023 03:23 PM (MGB5H)
Same with John Kirby, who sucks a lot of things.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 26, 2023 03:39 PM (Y6AXb)
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at October 26, 2023 03:40 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 03:40 PM (VdpRO)
Posted by: BourbonChicken
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Yes, but it won't do any good unless you wear a mask. No, wait, it's the other way round. Hold it, let me check my Phizer holdings.
Posted by: Tony Fauci at October 26, 2023 03:40 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (sX1BW)
Ummmmmmmm....Yes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 26, 2023 03:40 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (WiAW9)
Just exactly who do you think is responsible for those rising costs?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: runner at October 26, 2023 03:40 PM (E6cDv)
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 03:40 PM (VdpRO)
Posted by: Toby at October 26, 2023 03:29 PM (og5mY)
As the owner of a Kirby vacuum, I can confirm.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)
I LIKE that idea!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Tony Fauci at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (N3zMI)
Pole arms of various sorts are excellent things to have, right up until the time the enemy gets repeating rifles.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (Y6AXb)
Posted by: runner at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (E6cDv)
Posted by: Skip at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (Kdi1r)
Posted by: Fat Jonah of Krypton at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (PwP1X)
All that being said, the "Biden" administration has been incredibly quiet and neutral about what their policy really is. So, as long as that's going on-
I suppose it's okay and even laudable that DeSantis is sending arms and military equipment to the Israelis.
He'd probably make a good activist President. As i've said before either Trump or him are okay in my book.
Posted by: naturalfake
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Specifically, Curtiss Wright v. U.S. gives the president and the executive branch plenary power over foreign affairs as the principal organ of US foreign policy. And Youngstown Sheet and Tube in Jackson's concurrence puts presidential authority at its max when Congress has passed a law (in this case ratified a treaty plus implementation laws) granting additional authority to the executive.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:42 PM (TKiGG)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:42 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (44ww/)
LORD no.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)
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But they didn't because there was only one side to support. No general rule was needed. Morality guided us in the right direction for a very long time. Now one side is completely immoral.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:37 PM (sX1BW)
There wasn't a huge moral cause at stake in WW1 and the anti-German position was mostly ginned up in a top-down fashion. The US had historically been pretty tight with Prussia and then Germany.
England and France being on the same side was also an oddity of that war.
The US doesn't really start to develop more of a consensus foreign policy view until the Cold War.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:42 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: runner at October 26, 2023 03:42 PM (E6cDv)
Posted by: BourbonChicken
Prior to the Coof, the flu shoot only matched the actual variant of flu fewer than half the years. So it was a waste.
Now? You're likely to get a combo flu & Coof shot. So, a lot of potential downside there.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 26, 2023 03:42 PM (IG4Id)
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His craptastic bugout in Afghanistan seeded $85B of weapons, ammo and equipment in SW Asia and Mideast. Coincidence or Planned Op?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (Kdi1r)
Posted by: Skip at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (fwDg9)
How many weapons used in the attack were abandoned in Afghanistan.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)
I didn't start getting them until after I had a bad case in my 50s.
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (ELpxa)
Smooth, yet refreshing.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (dGCAG)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (Edo3/)
but not a word about newsom, china, & the Logan Act
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 26, 2023 03:20 PM (uyxyn)
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Nor, of course, Billy Jeff's traitorous Hughes/Loral/China gambit in the '90s.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (wzAuc)
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (VdpRO)
Posted by: Drive by
Doesn't matter. Private entities are covered under ITAR rules and regulations as well. You need export licenses for any foreign shipment of items on the US Munitions List above. There are additional laws involving shipments into War zones.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (TKiGG)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 26, 2023 03:38 PM (N3zMI)
Pole arms of various sorts are excellent things to have, right up until the time the enemy gets repeating rifles.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (Y6AXb)
Well he also wanted to build fortifications up in the mountains connected by tunnels. He was a tad cracked.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (N3zMI)
Posted by: runner at October 26, 2023 03:42 PM (E6cDv)
And don't you forget it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 26, 2023 03:35 PM (QPmu4)
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About a dozen years ago, helped a friend move from California to Florida using a giant U-Haul. When we got to the Arizona State line (I think it was on I-10), the Border Patrol asked us to pull out so they could run their drug l-sniffing dogs -- as well as for permission to search the contents of the U-Haul.
My friend is a big firearms advocate and instructor, does his own ammo reloads, and had buckets of spent cartridges in the U-Haul. We were a little worried that that might raise some red flags, but they were cool with it (especially since he had already chatted with them about what kinds of firearms they use and their training).
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (v6XNK)
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (VdpRO)
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at October 26, 2023 03:44 PM (fKIdX)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 26, 2023 03:44 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (Edo3/)
Oh they said something but it was in the form of praise.
Posted by: Drive by at October 26, 2023 03:44 PM (MNhXM)
"The Israeli-Palestinian situation is tense, particularly in the West Bank," Sullivan wrote, "but in the face of serious frictions, we have de-escalated crises in Gaza and restored direct diplomacy between the parties after years of its absence."
Then Hamas attacked Israel.
Posted by: SMOD at October 26, 2023 03:45 PM (RHGPo)
If you trust what's in it, it's obviously your call.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 26, 2023 03:45 PM (V8he0)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 26, 2023 03:45 PM (PQ4m2)
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (VdpRO)
Probably illegal in California, though.
I don't actually know, but I feel somewhat confident in my guess.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 26, 2023 03:45 PM (Y6AXb)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM (44ww/)
Yes. Actually, take two!
Posted by: Pfizer at October 26, 2023 03:45 PM (AUkrG)
Posted by: DB - around the clock, around the world at October 26, 2023 03:45 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at October 26, 2023 03:45 PM (MvF+J)
I didn't start getting them until after I had a bad case in my 50s.
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (MvF+J)
My sister in law used to be a True, True believer in Flu Shots, proselytized for them. I was skeptical and for 6 years we compared notes. I got none, ever, she got them all 6 years. I got the flu 3 times, she got the flu 3 times. She said "well those were just years they guessed the wrong strain" I say might as well just get a shot of sugar water, you get the same odds and less chance of genetic damage.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 26, 2023 03:46 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 26, 2023
***
City Slickers!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 26, 2023 03:46 PM (J2vNu)
so whose stock is he raiding? FL State Police? Local police?
Posted by: DB - around
FloridaMan Surplus World
Posted by: DaveA at October 26, 2023 03:46 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:47 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 26, 2023 03:41 PM (Y6AXb)
Well he also wanted to build fortifications up in the mountains connected by tunnels. He was a tad cracked.
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That and the fact that his donors had procured for him 200 Sharps rifles and 200 Maynard .45 revolvers. He was bit more than cracked given his first target was a US Arsenal.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:47 PM (Kdi1r)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:47 PM (JrojV)
They do shit like that on Forged in Fire all the time.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Roy at October 26, 2023 03:47 PM (z+ik4)
Posted by: Drive by
Doesn't matter. Private entities are covered under ITAR rules and regulations as well. You need export licenses for any foreign shipment of items on the US Munitions List above. There are additional laws involving shipments into War zones.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (TKiGG
Yeah so. You don’t think the entities they are contracting with don’t have those licenses? That they are flaunting export laws?
Posted by: Drive by at October 26, 2023 03:47 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 26, 2023 03:48 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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The idiotic Zimmerman Telegraph and the subsequent even now Telegraph urging alliance of Mexico and Germany to attack the US pretty much sealed Germany's fate and shut down even the pro German factions in a lot of Midwest states.
Germany's proposed alliance with Mexico was a legitimate casus belli.
The stupid thing is that German Foreign Affairs minister Zimmerman admitted that both telegraphs were legitimate which puts paid to the idiotic speculation that it was a British trick. Subsequent research also indicated this after the German Foreign Affairs Ministry documents were secured after WWI.
US had legitimate casus belli reasons to go to war in WWI--they did not have to but did have much better support for going to war in WWI than the Spanish American War.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:48 PM (TKiGG)
Posted by: Island Guy at October 26, 2023 03:48 PM (slrRB)
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 03:48 PM (VdpRO)
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at October 26, 2023 03:48 PM (MvF+J)
I think my comments on this site on the support of Israel and my absolute hatred for Hamas and its supporters stand for themselves.
I'm just saying I'm uncomfortable with State Governors shipping weapons to foreign actors in general. I also qualified that statement by observing the FedGov and especially the IC community have been arming the entire world for ages, and maybe Governors arming our allies is NBD.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:49 PM (0N1h0)
My sister in law used to be a True, True believer in Flu Shots, proselytized for them. I was skeptical and for 6 years we compared notes. I got none, ever, she got them all 6 years. I got the flu 3 times, she got the flu 3 times. She said "well those were just years they guessed the wrong strain" I say might as well just get a shot of sugar water, you get the same odds and less chance of genetic damage.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 26, 2023 03:46 PM (i9ffA)
I've never had one. I'm sure I've had the flu a few times, but the only time it lasted more than 24 hours was when it was Covid. Then the fever lasted a bit longer, but the cough went on for a couple months.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at October 26, 2023 03:45 PM (MvF+J)
I want a genuine vintage Ka-Bong!
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 26, 2023 03:49 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Paco
Don't forget Mark Vanilli Milley's work with the Chinese. POS.
Posted by: Cheri at October 26, 2023 03:49 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 26, 2023 03:49 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:47 PM (JrojV)
Prolly made by guys with too long beards, whose wives/girlfriends are somewhat overweight, but look halfway decent in chainmail anyway.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 26, 2023 03:50 PM (dGCAG)
Germany's proposed alliance with Mexico was a legitimate casus belli.
The stupid thing is that German Foreign Affairs minister Zimmerman admitted that both telegraphs were legitimate which puts paid to the idiotic speculation that it was a British trick. Subsequent research also indicated this after the German Foreign Affairs Ministry documents were secured after WWI.
US had legitimate casus belli reasons to go to war in WWI--they did not have to but did have much better support for going to war in WWI than the Spanish American War.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:48 PM (TKiGG)
US was already supporting the Allies at that point. The Zimmerman Telegram may have allowed Wilson to bring us in more easily, but a side had already been chosen.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:50 PM (eYoxG)
--John Kerry lounging around on the pillows in the Ayatollah's inner sanctum.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 26, 2023 03:50 PM (Yro0w)
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:48 PM (TKiGG)
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In the book I'm writing, the main character, a German spy, begins his disillusionment with the leadership he's so loyal to with the Zimmermann Telegram.
The bulk of the book plays out later, though, right before Wilhelm's abdication when he decides, "fuck it, let's steal a million dollars in German gold," with a female Soviet spy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 03:50 PM (GBKbO)
@HillaryClinton
·
Oct 26, 2016
Happy birthday to this future president.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 26, 2023 03:49 PM (TGPs7)
BWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:50 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 26, 2023 03:19 PM (sX1BW)
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DeSantis should have positioned himself as the Trump Surrogate Supporter. Campaign not as a candidate, but as the politician espousing Populist Conservative and Trumpian Values.
Purely coincidentally making all those speeches to Republican audiences in various Red and Purple states. Basically out-Vivek, Vivek R.
Too f*ckin late now.
Posted by: rd at October 26, 2023 03:51 PM (MML1n)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:50 PM (eYoxG)
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If Wilson's for it, then I'm again' it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 03:51 PM (GBKbO)
https://is.gd/mQFufi
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:51 PM (ELpxa)
Abbott should send some feral hogs. That could end up being awesome in TWO ways.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023
***
"AIEEEEEE!"
Posted by: Moslems in Gaza Tunnels at October 26, 2023 03:51 PM (J2vNu)
In the book I'm writing, the main character, a German spy, begins his disillusionment with the leadership he's so loyal to with the Zimmermann Telegram.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 03:50 PM (GBKbO)
White Hispanic Racist Murderer!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:51 PM (Zz0t1)
@HillaryClinton
·
Oct 26, 2016
Happy birthday to this future president.
You'd think they would eventually learn?
Posted by: The Glass Ceiling at October 26, 2023 03:51 PM (VdpRO)
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We are the Ukrainian States of America.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 26, 2023 03:52 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Because you asked at October 26, 2023 03:52 PM (B9RjC)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:51 PM (ELpxa)
Oh my......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:52 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: wth at October 26, 2023 03:52 PM (v0R5T)
Well, except that whole espionage op that Germany was running via their ambassador who turned Wilson and his toadies into dupes. I mean holy shit, they sabotaged an ammunition plant in New York harbor, used bio warfare to poison shipments of horses and were targeting our ships. They employed Irish dock workers as spies and had an entire espionage operation running right under our noses. Which Wilson ignored. That's only what I'm remembering at the moment. There more then enough before the supposed trigger event that are acts of war.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:52 PM (Edo3/)
Posted by: Ferd Berfal at October 26, 2023 03:52 PM (EP8ZQ)
Posted by: wth at October 26, 2023 03:52 PM (v0R5T)
++++
*snort*
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:53 PM (ELpxa)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:42 PM (JrojV)
Cold Steel sells one for $100. They have a lot of whacky stuff like that
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 26, 2023 03:53 PM (NtVYv)
https://is.gd/mQFufi
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:51 PM (ELpxa)
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Is obviously confused by the straightforward nature of Frederic Bastiat's analogy of the broken window fallacy since paying for a broken window is obviously better than buying a new suit.
2/10
Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 03:53 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Drive by
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You need reading comprehension. There are additional laws that apply to shipments in war zones such as the US Neutrality Act and the Logan Act among others.
Simply put, unless you spend a lot of money on compliance via the State and Commerce departments, it is more a demonstration of support than anything that will help Israel in the short run.
And the goverment can actually issue a simply policy guidance under discretionary powers to not grant third party export licenses to ship to war zones.
I am too lazy today to spend time on WestLaw and Lexis doing your research for you. You can find open source on the relevant documents via the State Department and Commerce Department federal register pages and websites to determine what their legal position is.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 03:53 PM (TKiGG)
Posted by: Drive by at October 26, 2023 03:53 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Max at October 26, 2023 03:37 PM (hEUXJ)
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What aid to Israel amounts to is a subsidy of US arms manufacturers. And in the case of Israel, I'm perfectly OK with that.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (sWM8x)
the side strings on that suit are too long and pose a potential safety hazard
Posted by: DB - around the clock, around the world at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:52 PM (Edo3/)
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There was a big German spy ring in the Vatican that got rooted out completely in 1916. It's an interesting little tale.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
https://is.gd/KWeIFh
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (JrojV)
the side strings on that suit are too long and pose a potential safety hazard
Posted by: DB - around the clock, around the world at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM
She better get that thing off POST HASTE!!! For HUMANITY! If it saves just ONE LIFE.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:55 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 26, 2023 03:55 PM (XizFB)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:55 PM (Edo3/)
https://www.thehistoryreader.com/
military-history/world-war-vatican-espionage/
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 03:55 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (i9ffA)
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I had that one. Laid my ass out for a week and it took me about month to really feel good again. It was way, way worse than my experience with COVID was, but about like my dad's experience with COVID (same strain - I got it from him) was, except he recovered fully within about 8 days (he was flat for about three).
It's crazy how wildly different the experience can be from person to person.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 26, 2023 03:56 PM (ELpxa)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (GBKbO)"
Sounds like your next book.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:56 PM (Edo3/)
https://is.gd/KWeIFh
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (0N1h0)
You mean, the lying asshole Democrat LIED?!?
The HELLS you say......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Skip at October 26, 2023 03:57 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 26, 2023 03:57 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Roy
He'd have to get approval from The Cartels.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 26, 2023 03:57 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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The Serbs had it coming. If A-H had moved immediately after the assassination, even Russia probably would have stood aside. Waiting a month was the problem. A lot like with Israel today.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 26, 2023 03:57 PM (JwZ+/)
https://is.gd/KWeIFh
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (0N1h0)
He's a real rocket surgeon. Maybe he should try that crap in a place with a few less cameras, like the floor of a casino in Vegas.
Posted by: Roy at October 26, 2023 03:57 PM (z+ik4)
She has that round Eastern Euro face that, while attractive, is a turn-off for me personally.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:57 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (0N1h0)
So Jaaamaaal lied?
Be better Jaaamaaal...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 26, 2023 03:57 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 03:30 PM (eYoxG)
What makes you think they aren't?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 26, 2023 03:58 PM (upr5N)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:43 PM (Edo3/)
Oh they said something but it was in the form of praise.
that's because the big guy got his 10%. i doubt desantis is doing that.
Posted by: anachronda at October 26, 2023 03:58 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 03:54 PM (GBKbO)"
Sounds like your next book.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 03:56 PM (Edo3/)
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It's background for it. My characters are fictional, but they interact with some real people like the Vatican Secretary of State and Matthias Erzberger.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 03:58 PM (JrojV)
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Well, Tucker has a home in ME.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 03:58 PM (Kdi1r)
Seriously though, you've convinced me not to give up on DeSantis just yet so you must be doing something right.
Posted by: Max Power at October 26, 2023 03:59 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Roy at October 26, 2023 03:59 PM (z+ik4)
Posted by: Bugs Bunny at October 26, 2023 03:59 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 26, 2023 03:36 PM
Should you? You need 3! And a dozen COVID boosters, too!!!
Posted by: Dr. Fauci acolyte at October 26, 2023 04:00 PM (/FOT2)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 26, 2023 04:00 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Wilson was against it but Zimmerman actually used US telegraph line access given to him by the US government in order to facilitate peace agreement to transmit the Zimmerman telegraphs. That is because the British government severed all of Germany's external telegraph lines to much of the world when war was declared under orders of Winston Churchill, First Lord of the Admiralty.
Essentially, Congress was still in session because of the Armed Ships legislation which was being filibustered. Sen. Henry Cabot Lodge knew when he got a copy of the Zimmerman telegraph that Wilson more or less had to go to war because Congress was going to declare it whether Wilson approved it or not. Sec. of State Lansing also was vastly amused because he had to implement Wilson's order to let the Germans use US State Dept telegraph lines against his feverent opposition. The Brits helped the US authenticate the cyphered telegraph at the US embassy to allow Wilson to claim that a US State Dept employee on US soil obtained the telegraph. The murky coverstory was to allow the Germans to believe their cypher had not been broken.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 04:01 PM (TKiGG)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 26, 2023 04:00 PM (BdMk6)
Well THAT'S certainly not a knee jerk reaction.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 04:01 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 04:01 PM (JrojV)
Same here. Instant pass from me when I see that.
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 04:01 PM (VdpRO)
Just another reason to not take the COVID Vaccine.
*****!!!! If you have children or grandchildren? Space out those vaccine shots! Do not let the doctors pump multiple vaccines into your kids all at the same time.
1. Reactions should be less
2. The vaccine should work better.
The downside is you need to make more appointments and show up for the same appointments.
Posted by: rd at October 26, 2023 04:02 PM (8R02S)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
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I am sure he did but whether or not it occurs is up to the Biden administration's State and Commerce Departments--not DeSantis or the private companies.
It is a symbolic act more than something actionable immediately. Good politics though.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 04:02 PM (TKiGG)
Posted by: torabora at October 26, 2023 04:02 PM (kdIoe)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 04:02 PM (Edo3/)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures
If Teddy Roosevelt had been President in 1914, we would have been in the war a lot sooner. He was all for fighting the Hun.
And he had lived in Germany and spoke fluent German, and was well acquainted with the country and culture.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 26, 2023 04:03 PM (vcOmj)
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I'm at high risk due to health conditions. I'll get the flu shot and pneumonia shot. I still won't get a Covid shot, though.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 26, 2023 04:03 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: torabora at October 26, 2023 04:02 PM (kdIoe)
Someone should ask the new speaker about that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 04:03 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: torabora at October 26, 2023 04:02 PM (kdIoe)
Editing out all the FED takes time.
Posted by: Roy at October 26, 2023 04:03 PM (z+ik4)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Wilson was against it but Zimmerman actually used US telegraph line access given to him by the US government in order to facilitate peace agreement to transmit the Zimmerman telegraphs. That is because the British government severed all of Germany's external telegraph lines to much of the world when war was declared under orders of Winston Churchill, First Lord of the Admiralty.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 04:01 PM (TKiGG)
If Wilson was against entrance into the war, he wouldn't have set the US up to supply the Allies as well as finance them. If we were trying to break the British naval blockade to supply the Germans, that would've been an issue with them too.
His call for a "war to end all wars" and "make the world safe for democracy" is also rather telling.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:03 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: anachronda at October 26, 2023 03:58 PM (v3pYe)
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Maybe DeSantis gets 10% of the ammo that's being sent over...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 26, 2023 04:04 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: N at October 26, 2023 04:04 PM (BZfKP)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 04:02 PM (Edo3/)
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I suspect they were desperate to distract France and England as much as possible while trying to prevent America from getting into the war and ending the stalemate.
I can't hate Germany for its efforts to stir up shit at those stages of the war. I can hate them for letting the war spread in the first place, though. England, France, and Russia, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 04:04 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures
If Teddy Roosevelt had been President in 1914, we would have been in the war a lot sooner. He was all for fighting the Hun.
And he had lived in Germany and spoke fluent German, and was well acquainted with the country and culture.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 26, 2023 04:03 PM (vcOmj)
Teddy Roosevelt was an unusual Republican in support of territorial expansion and general imperialism.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:05 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Roy at October 26, 2023 04:03 PM (z+ik4)
Final release will be 2 minutes long
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 26, 2023 04:05 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 26, 2023 04:05 PM (V8he0)
Posted by: N at October 26, 2023 04:05 PM (BZfKP)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures
If Teddy Roosevelt had been President in 1914, we would have been in the war a lot sooner. He was all for fighting the Hun.
And he had lived in Germany and spoke fluent German, and was well acquainted with the country and culture.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 26, 2023 04:03 PM (vcOmj)
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If Teddy hadn't run in 1912, Wilson would have never gotten close to the presidency and Taft would have won re-election.
Teddy Roosevelt is a piece of shit that deserves to burn in Hell.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 04:05 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 04:02 PM (Edo3/)
Britain. Arabs. The fucking Middle East and dissolution of the Ottoman Empire.
I mean sure, the Germans were dicks, but that's normal.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:05 PM (eYoxG)
And I'm thinking maybe McCarthy. Not sure he's worth the shipping charge.
Posted by: torabora at October 26, 2023 04:06 PM (kdIoe)
Posted by: N at October 26, 2023 04:06 PM (BZfKP)
Posted by: Skip at October 26, 2023 04:06 PM (fwDg9)
I go back and forth on this. For many years I never got the flu shot. Then after several years of suffering through the flu each winter, I got one. Then I did it again the next year. For several years I didn't get the flu.
Is it a crapshoot whether the shot will help? Yes. Apparently it's only about 30% effective. Is 30% better than several days of sitting on the toilet and feeling like death? I personally think so.
However, now that Pfizer and others are likely slipping Covid "vaccines" in with the flu shot, I probably won't get the shot. I dunno.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 04:06 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 04:06 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: anachronda at October 26, 2023 03:58 PM (v3pYe)
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Maybe DeSantis gets 10% of the ammo that's being sent over...
hmm. that could come in handy next time disney gets uppity.
Posted by: anachronda at October 26, 2023 04:06 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: wth at October 26, 2023 04:06 PM (v0R5T)
I go back and forth on this. For many years I never got the flu shot. Then after several years of suffering through the flu each winter, I got one. Then I did it again the next year. For several years I didn't get the flu.
Is it a crapshoot whether the shot will help? Yes. Apparently it's only about 30% effective. Is 30% better than several days of sitting on the toilet and feeling like death? I personally think so.
However, now that Pfizer and others are likely slipping Covid "vaccines" in with the flu shot, I probably won't get the shot. I dunno.
Posted by: b
What is fuck no ?????
Posted by: N at October 26, 2023 04:08 PM (BZfKP)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:05 PM (eYoxG)
Yeah...most of his politics were stupid.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 26, 2023 04:08 PM (3Gtis)
Posted by: Roy at October 26, 2023 03:59 PM
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I am surprised he didn't try to use his Constitutional Congressional Immunity to get out of the charges?
"Your Honor, I was traveling to the chambers when I purposefully pulled the fire alarm to delay and prevent Congressional Deliberations."
Posted by: rd at October 26, 2023 04:08 PM (4ZcUi)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Get a gun, learn that gun, never ever give up that gun at October 26, 2023 04:08 PM (mlBAr)
DeSantis finding a way to get supplies to the Israel, an ally, some of which may be arms: Bad.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(z5vMw) at October 26, 2023 04:09 PM (z5vMw)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 26, 2023 04:09 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: wth at October 26, 2023 03:34 PM (v0R5T)
You know, that's not as insane as it sounds, especially the pythons. How does Hamas feel about snakes on a plain?
Posted by: creeper at October 26, 2023 04:09 PM (cTCuP)
DeSantis wants to give charitable aid in furtherance of stated US policy to aid and support Israel.
Or is our official position now pro-Hamas?
Posted by: Zek at October 26, 2023 04:10 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 04:10 PM (Edo3/)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 04:10 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 04:06 PM (0N1h0)
Glad my kids are way past birth/toddler stages and the shots. I would be highly skeptical of what they would be getting
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 26, 2023 04:10 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: Zek at October 26, 2023 04:10 PM (5FPX4)
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Official, no.
Overt, yes.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(z5vMw) at October 26, 2023 04:10 PM (z5vMw)
The bulk of the book plays out later, though, right before Wilhelm's abdication when he decides, "fuck it, let's steal a million dollars in German gold," with a female Soviet spy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Umm, you mean a communist spy as the civil war was still going on. Just kidding.
Sounds interesting. The funny thing is that the NYT's reporter (an actual German spy) at the Zimmerman press conference in Germany to address the notorious Telegraph scandal was trying to wave Zimmerman off of Germany admitting the contents of the Telegraph's alliance offer with Mexico was legitimate. He failed and was aghast at it.
Tuchman's thesis was that Zimmerman believed that British agents had stolen the Telegraph from the German ambassador sent home from the US after the unrestricted submarine warfare approval or via Germany's embassy in Mexico . So there was nothing to gained by denying it.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 04:10 PM (TKiGG)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 26, 2023 04:00 PM
Pussy!!!!
Posted by: Trump at October 26, 2023 04:11 PM (/FOT2)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:05 PM (eYoxG)
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Remember his Raaacist "Great White Fleet?"
Posted by: rd at October 26, 2023 04:11 PM (4ZcUi)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at October 26, 2023 04:11 PM (v0R5T)
Teddy's politics may have been stupid, but guy had brass balls this big.
Posted by: Eromero at October 26, 2023 04:11 PM (KiuiP)
I often go year without catching cold too.
Had Covid once. Again, kind of sucked, but I got over it. No vaxx neither. I have a pretty good immune system.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at October 26, 2023 04:11 PM (xPJvm)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 04:06 PM (0N1h0)
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This is where I am. I'm supposed to get the shingles and pneumococcal vaccines, but the trust is gone.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 26, 2023 04:12 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: wth
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I think those are covered under other export licensing laws. US Fisheries and Game agents have that export authority.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 04:12 PM (TKiGG)
Up until Obama, he was the only President ever to kill a Bear.
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 04:12 PM (VdpRO)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 04:12 PM (Edo3/)
Posted by: wth
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I think those are covered under other export licensing laws. US Fisheries and Game agents have that export authority.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 04:12 PM (TKiGG)
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I suggest Fish and Game personnel accompany the exported reptiles to Gaza.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(z5vMw) at October 26, 2023 04:13 PM (z5vMw)
We have a cure for that.
Posted by: Pfizer: Come for the vaccines and keep boosting for your destroyed immune system at October 26, 2023 04:13 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: N at October 26, 2023 04:13 PM (BZfKP)
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Teddy understood the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans were preferable places to fight rather than in America. Further, the sibling rivalry between Britain and the US was very real. The US Navy became the number one threat to the British Navy. The Brits trained to do battle with the US Navy.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (yKhjs)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (9J7gA)
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (VdpRO)
I wrote as soon as Sundowner was installed that Israel was screwed
Posted by: Skip at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (fwDg9)
Up until Obama, he was the only President ever to kill a Bear.
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 04:12 PM (VdpRO)
I thought Owebama WAS the bear.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Zek at October 26, 2023 04:10 PM (5FPX4)
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Official, no.
Overt, yes.
Posted by: blake
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D.C. is trying to send both sides billions so that there's plenty of money for everyone to fight for years.
This is not a joke. IIRC Hamas will get $3.5B. Biden and KJP insist it's urgent that they get it, too.
I assume if they don't then the war will only last a few days.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Get a gun, learn that gun, never ever give up that gun at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (mlBAr)
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 04:12 PM (VdpRO)
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I never understood how Obama got the moniker, "Bear" unless it was decided "Bare" was a bit to revealing.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(z5vMw) at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (z5vMw)
Posted by: Zek at October 26, 2023 04:10 PM (5FPX4)
I don't think you're going to like the answer to that.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at October 26, 2023 04:15 PM (V8he0)
Ask garrett
Posted by: N at October 26, 2023 04:15 PM (BZfKP)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Get a gun, learn that gun, never ever give up that gun at October 26, 2023 04:16 PM (mlBAr)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 04:16 PM (JrojV)
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 04:16 PM (yKhjs)
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (yKhjs)
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Well, the Brits and the Americans fighting at sea does go back a ways.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(z5vMw) at October 26, 2023 04:16 PM (z5vMw)
I never understood how Obama got the moniker, "Bear" unless it was decided "Bare" was a bit to revealing.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(z5vMw) at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (z5vMw)
Bareback. He doesn't like condoms. Hairy man ass is his thing.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 04:16 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (JrojV)
It was in some ways rather unfortunate, but the region had been consolidating for some time and Protestantism and the ensuing wars of religion had done a lot to cripple it as a functional entity.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:16 PM (eYoxG)
It's a pretty clear line between the good guys and the bad guys, Average Joe.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Get a gun, learn that gun, never ever give up that gun at October 26, 2023 04:17 PM (mlBAr)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Get a gun, learn that gun, never ever give up that gun at October 26, 2023 04:16 PM (mlBAr)
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Well, a couple of months after we had agreed to give them, but none of the money had been unfrozen yet.
The real windfall was the rollback of sanctions, especially around oil sales, for the past 2+ years. Iran made, reportedly, about $40 billion over that period from those sales.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 26, 2023 04:17 PM (GBKbO)
I had shingles once. It suuucked. Fortunately I only had it near my waist. I've heard you can get it on your EYES!
*shudder*
Posted by: bonhomme at October 26, 2023 04:17 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: nckate at October 26, 2023 04:17 PM (SnxUt)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 04:16 PM (JrojV)
Something about him going out and about with a selfie stick or something and it was said "The bear is LOOSE!"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 26, 2023 04:17 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:18 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 26, 2023 04:18 PM (Edo3/)
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 26, 2023 04:18 PM (/6GbT)
I've worked in a few Bear Hunting Camps.
You want to kill a Boar with a Knife, I'm gonna want to set up my spotting scope and watch the show.
I've seen big black bear take an entire mag from a .308 and go on to maul several tracking dogs without much effort.
Don't play with them unless you are prepared to deal with them.
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 04:18 PM (VdpRO)
We lose more Americans to fentanyl in a week than Israel lost in the entire attack.
But no, we can't be bothered to protect our own citizens. We must fund Israel.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 26, 2023 04:18 PM (9J7gA)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 26, 2023 04:14 PM (JrojV)
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Meh, every summer Charlemagne was either fighting in Italy or northern Germany to maintain the Empire. It was not cost free.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 26, 2023 04:18 PM (yKhjs)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Wilson was actually dedicated to peace at all costs. As far as supplying them, there was no Neutrality Act at the time granting him authority to do so nor to lending money to either side.
Traditional neutrality like the Swiss or Swedes followed did not require a neutral nation not to finance or make money shipping munitions. It was the customer that would be at risk. The US followed that line throughout its early history which nearly resulted in wars with France and then did with Britain in 1812.
Arguing the latter point ignores that had Wilson wanted to go to war, he might have gotten Congress to declare it after the sinking of the Lusitania or at least broken off relations with the Germans.
Wilson was superb at rhetoric and his speech to enter war was more that we needed to go to war to end all wars. He was also a decisive executive and when the tide ran out on peace, he did not hesitate to go to war unlike Buchanan who slinked out of office.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 04:19 PM (TKiGG)
Pretty sure there has only been one effective treatment that seemed to eradicate the flu.
Covid.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 26, 2023 04:19 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 26, 2023 04:19 PM (/6GbT)
Thank you, Indian engineers. That made my day.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Get a gun, learn that gun, never ever give up that gun at October 26, 2023 04:19 PM (mlBAr)
Don't play with them unless you are prepared to deal with them.
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 04:18 PM (VdpRO)
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I'm gonna guess the rounds were not designed to penetrate something as heavy and dense as bear hide and bone.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(z5vMw) at October 26, 2023 04:20 PM (z5vMw)
Posted by: JB at October 26, 2023 04:16 PM (O3uss)
This is why I love the concept of free speech. I now know where you stand.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 26, 2023 04:20 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: A dude in MI
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There are so many laws on the books and spending authorizations that unless Congress say specifically do not spend money on this such as the Boland Amendment or Hyde Amendment, presidents can shift money from one priority to another. Trump used this vague legislative authority via the Corp of Engineers funding to authorize some of the Wall being built after Congress refused to grant him money.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 04:21 PM (TKiGG)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 26, 2023 04:18 PM (9J7gA)
If we didn't also support Israel's enemies there would be much less need for support.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 26, 2023 04:22 PM (3Gtis)
Bad placement on the first shot and it only got worse for the accuracy from then on.
Clients are...unpredictable re. accuracy at the best of times.
Posted by: garrett at October 26, 2023 04:23 PM (VdpRO)
Posted by: Skip at October 26, 2023 04:23 PM (udmHO)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Wilson was actually dedicated to peace at all costs. As far as supplying them, there was no Neutrality Act at the time granting him authority to do so nor to lending money to either side.
Posted by: whig at October 26, 2023 04:19 PM (TKiGG)
He could've cut trade to all participants. The loans was something he had to actively permit in October 1915.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:23 PM (eYoxG)
Now, on the other hand, we are face to face with what appears to be a critical economic situation, which can only be relieved apparently by the investment of American capital in foreign loans to be used in liquidating the enormous balance of trade in favor of the United States."
-September 1915, Secretary of State Lansing to Wilson
Wilson changes the US to an open lending policy in October 1915.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:26 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: I still can't think of anything at October 26, 2023 04:28 PM (JZPXc)
"Public outrage over the loss of civilian life hastened the United States entry into World War I. Although the cargo list of the Lusitania stated that she carried approximately 170 tons of munitions and war material, this fact was not revealed to the U.S. public at the time."
There's a multitude of signs of narrative crafting going on in the lead up to WW1, and Wilson founds the first propaganda ministry.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:29 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 26, 2023 04:32 PM (eYoxG)
I strongly suspect that DeSantis is sending only stuff that is legal for individuals to own, much of which is still very useful to armies in war time. Obvious examples:
1. Sidearms with holsters and ammunition.
2. Helmets and 'bullet-proof' vests.
3. Drones that can be adapted to carry explosives. I read a year or so ago that Ukraine was buying a particular model of Chinese drone on the open market that was well suited to dropping grenades into open tank hatches. They quickly realized that if they bought the entire stock, not just the x thousand they needed that month, Russia wouldn't be able to buy any, so they did.
4. Shotguns and shells. The US military found sawed-off shotguns extremely useful in clearing out multi-story underground bunkers on Iwo Jima and Okinawa. Of course, they're illegal in the U.S., but I'm sure Israel can quickly and efficiently turn perfectly-legal full-length Florida shotguns into sawed-off shotguns if they need to go into the Hamas tunnels to rescue hostages or kill terrorists.
5. Which reminds me: night-vision equipment would also come in very handy in tunnels and high-quality binoculars outside.
Posted by: Dr. Weevil at October 26, 2023 04:51 PM (uL3GK)
Posted by: Mr. Fabulist at October 26, 2023 04:57 PM (7VCus)
Not shocked the next steps not considered. Unless they are, which is worse.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 26, 2023 05:00 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 26, 2023 05:13 PM (pIx7m)
Posted by: Mickey Morgan at October 26, 2023 05:15 PM (oxDA9)
I'm ready for the next steps.
I've been waiting for someone to start pushing DCs buttons.
Posted by: pawn at October 26, 2023 05:25 PM (5g9YU)
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