Lee Smith: How Did Our Trillion-Dollar Society of Incompetents Called Our "Intelligence Community" Miss the Attack on Israel?

Before getting to that, a related story which may explain why our "intelligence" services failed to detect the coming attack.

They doxxed the faces of special forces soldiers meeting Mushbrain Fingerbang. The faces are obscured in this picture, but the original photo released by the Junta showed terrorists exactly who they should search for on the internet and then assassinate.

China will use its own AI capabilities to scour the internet for other photos of these men. It will identify them, and then it will turn over their identities to Russia, who will in turn turn over the assassination packages to their Islamic allies.

Well done, guys. Give yourselves all a bureaucrat performance bonus.

How did the Deep State miss the attack on Israel?

Did it have something to do with, oh yeah, the fact that the Biden Administration has a known Iranian spy with top secret clearances working for the Pentagon?

The continuing proliferation of conflicting and contradictory stories leaked by U.S. intelligence services regarding what they knew--and, more importantly, didn't know--about the planning for Hamas' assault on Israel, is more than just a D.C. bureaucratic comedy act. Taken together, the profusion of leaks suggests there are people in offices and agencies across the Beltway who are worried they'll be blamed for missing signals and human intelligence outlining plans for the largest one-day massacre of Jews since the Holocaust.
The gaps in U.S. knowledge of the attacks and Iran's role must also be understood in the context of a separate but related intelligence scandal. As Tablet reported six days before the attacks, the Biden administration's former Iran envoy Robert Malley supported and facilitated an Iranian spy ring and brought one of the clerical regime's assets, Ariane Tabatabai, into the government. She is still at the Pentagon, where as chief of staff to the assistant director of defense for special operations, Christopher Maier, she holds top secret clearances. It's hardly surprising then that the administration is eager to conceal Iran's supporting role in the Hamas operation and clear the American spy services of any foreknowledge of the murderous incursion of the Iranian-backed terrorist group into southern Israel, no matter how unlikely such claims are in reality.

The "intelligence" community is claiming that of course they don't bother tracking Hamas -- it's not a threat to us!

Smith points out it is a threat to us -- it kills Americans frequently -- and that the NSA spies on everybody.

He then turns to the "intelligence" community's "hey, look over there" deflection, claiming that Israel was warned by Egypt about the attack, so it's all on them.

None of those stories add up, either.
Egypt is a U.S. listening post, which is why it was strange to hear that the Cairo government had given a heads-up about the attack to Jerusalem but not Washington. Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said he was briefed on the Egyptian intelligence story. But if the account were true, he might have asked what the United States is getting in exchange for a $2 billion annual aid package if not previews of every piece of intelligence the Egyptian military and intelligence services collect. Obviously if the Egyptians did have something on a major Hamas operation designed to murder hundreds of Israelis, especially while Washington was in the midst of trying to broker peace between Israel and Saudi Arabia, they'd have given it to the Americans immediately. No, the purpose of that Egypt story was simple and obvious: to keep the media's focus on Jerusalem's failures, not Washington's.

Smith then addresses a bizarre contradictory claim by the US "inteligence" community: It was completely blindsided by the attack, and that's excusable, because of course it does not monitor the completely-not-a-threat Hamas.

But then they turn around and tell us that all of their intelligence on Hamas tells them that their Iranian Partners in Peace (TM) had nothing to do with the attack.

Well which is it? Do you not monitor Hamas and therefore are excused for missing a planned attack, or do you have extensive intelligence on Hamas and therefore can say with certainty that they were not planning this with the US's terrorist ally and nuclear-bomb-making partner Iran?

In fact, they're simply lying: They know, based on open-source intelligence that even the public can review, that Hamas planned this with Biden's friends in Iran.

Open-source reporting shows that Biden officials knew for at least half a year that the Iranians were in planning sessions with their terror assets, Hamas and Hezbollah. Back in April, The Wall Street Journal reported that Esmail Qaani, commander of the Quds Force, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps' foreign terror unit, was meeting in Beirut with Haniyeh and Hezbollah General Secretary Hassan Nasrallah. Hezbollah then fired off a round of missiles from the north, Hamas fired from the south, and another barrage sailed in from across the Syrian border. The Iranians could have sent a courier to tell its allies to fire off a few missiles at the Israelis. But with the Quds Force chief on the ground meeting with the heads of Hamas and Hezbollah, something bigger was in the works.
The United States can't possibly have not known about this meeting, and could have easily followed up directly on the purpose of it, given its capacities inside Lebanon. The Biden administration has allocated $72 million to pay the salaries of both the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF) and the country's Internal Security Forces (ISF). One of the ISF's big tasks is to target Israeli spy networks inside Lebanon. In 2022, the ISF rolled up no less than 17 Israeli networks based in Lebanon.

There is a bizarre bit of information about the Hamas paraglider-murderers, which you'll have to click the link to see.

Moreover, sources for the Times piece claimed that for over a year Iran helped plan the Hamas attack in coordination with Hezbollah, using Lebanon and Syria as training grounds. The Times piece corroborated an Oct. 8 Wall Street Journal article that reported that Iran had planned the invasion and greenlighted it the Monday before. But reporters at the Journal's Washington, D.C., bureau, who had no access to the Journal's foreign sources, were dead set against their Middle East-based colleagues publishing a piece based on their own reporting that made Iran's role clear. Their interest was in protecting their official sources in Washington, who continued to deny any Iranian role in the attack.

Read the whole thing.

Meanwhile, Daniel Greenfield points out another Pentagon employee with family ties to Islamic terrorism.

In 2019, Yousra Fazili addressed a congressional hearing to complain about the arrest of her cousin by Indian authorities. The woman who now serves as Chief of Staff for the Pentagon Comptroller claimed that her cousin was the innocent victim of oppressive Indian authorities.
According to the daughter of Kashmiri Muslim immigrants, her cousin Mubeen Shah had been arrested under India's Public Safety Act even though he was "not a politician or a dissident, he isn't a freedom fighter, or even a kid in the street throwing stones. He's just a businessman. His life's work has focused on bringing economic opportunity to Kashmir."
In reality, as the Hindu Post noted, Shah had "lionized Kashmiri jihadists, agreed with a description of convicted terrorists as 'inspirations for the youth,' and promised that 'we all are ready to spill our blood'" to keep the region Muslim. On Facebook, Shah appeared to have posted a picture describing Mohammad Afzal Guru, an Islamic terrorist tied to the 'The Army of Muhammad', which is affiliated with Al Qaeda, as the "Pride of Kashmir". Guru had been executed for his role in a December 2001 attack on the Indian parliament.
Fortunately for Shah, he had his Fazili family deeply embedded in America's political establishment. Yousra's sister, Sameera Fazili had been brought in as a senior policy advisor to Obama's National Economic Council. And when Biden took office, she became the deputy assistant to the president and the deputy director of the National Economic Council.
When Shah was arrested, Sameera and Yousra Fazili "dialed friends in the State Department" and the State Department demanded information about him from the Indian government. Rep. Pramila Jayapal, a radical leftist sympathetic to Islamic terrorists, agitated for his release.
Soon Shah was out and Yousra Fazili was in, joining her sister in a high-level position in the Biden administration. Where Sameera had worked on the economic side of things, Yousra became the Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Defense Programs three years after agitating on behalf of a terrorist supporter.

Kyle Shideler

@ShidelerK

DHS, Pentagon, State Department. There's a reason why you keep reading stories like this regarding U.S. government employees linked to radical groups, including terrorists. It's not because the USG can't vet, or doesn't know. They know. It's a choice.

The Pentagon appoints people with known terrorist sympathies to oversee nuclear programs but the government will put you on a list for reading Lord of the Rings and 1984.

This story is about the UK, but the exact same program was undertaken by the leftwing here, first, to redirect government efforts to surveil actual terrorists to instead use that power to harass and arrest enemies of the left.

Author Douglas Murray published a scathing review of the British government's counter-terrorism Prevent program, which has apparently reported that authors like George Orwell, J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis can radicalize readers.
In his column, Murray described how Britain's Prevent program was founded to support counter-terrorism efforts, but has gradually swayed into a focus on only extremists from Islam and "far-right" ideological mindsets. He evidenced this claim by citing that Prevent was consulted by activist groups such as Hope not Hate, which he argues believes that people who voted for Brexit and are against illegal immigrants are far-right.
He further noted that Prevents' "Research Information and Communications Unit" (RICU) has previously listed historical texts as red flags. Essentially, if someone is reading "1984," or works by Lewis, Tolkien, Aldous Huxley, or Joseph Conrad, they should be suspected of being a far-right extremist terrorist. Murray's own book was on the list.

Yes. Obama wanted more "balance" in the US government between those who wanted to stop Islamic terrorism and those who wanted to aid it or even conduct it.

And this is where we are.

They've turned us inside-out.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:45 PM

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1 They didn't want to see it

Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2023 02:47 PM (bs+z0)

2 TRUMP!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 20, 2023 02:47 PM (cMXNt)

3 The IC people are busy jacking off to porn, checking up on old boyfriends and girlfriends, investigating normal Americans and planning the 2024 Steal.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 20, 2023 02:49 PM (cMXNt)

4 Work on you piety and sanctity.

Posted by: 80's music fan at October 20, 2023 02:50 PM (as3uC)

5 Coming to a town near you.

Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at October 20, 2023 02:51 PM (7rzgu)

6 Look at Al-Qaeda, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Hamas.

Tell me honestly whose side we're on.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 20, 2023 02:51 PM (RDD2k)

7 Did it ever occur to anyone here that the so-called intelligence community let this happen to start a greater conflict that would cover up for the collapse of the USD and the vaxx deaths?

Posted by: soon to be banned again at October 20, 2023 02:51 PM (tjZg/)

8 As a taxpayer, I feel like my ass is a garbage bag that’s been carrying rebar.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 20, 2023 02:52 PM (f0NjD)

9 China will use its own AI capabilities to scour the internet for other photos of these men. It will identify them, and then it will turn over their identities to Russia, who will in turn turn over the assassination packages to their Islamic allies.

Well done, guys. Give yourselves all a bureaucrat performance bonus.
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It's just American blood.

No great loss.

Posted by: The Ruling Class at October 20, 2023 02:52 PM (d04cU)

10 Top.

Men.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 20, 2023 02:53 PM (guGkK)

11 She is still at the Pentagon, where as chief of staff to the assistant director of defense for special operations, Christopher Maier, she holds top secret clearances. It's hardly surprising then that the administration is eager to conceal Iran's supporting role in the Hamas operation and clear the American spy services of any foreknowledge of the murderous incursion of the Iranian-backed terrorist group into southern Israel, no matter how unlikely such claims are in reality.
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Just "we have a known Iranian spy in a top position and have for some time" is pretty damning, even without considering the recent outbreak of war.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:53 PM (d04cU)

12 Smith points out it is a threat to us -- it kills Americans frequently -- and that the NSA spies on everybody.
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The vast majority of the NSA's efforts are internal. They spy on everyone, but they the most attention to Americans.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:54 PM (d04cU)

13 Mmm, IC is either right or wrong but never responsible. Great way to move up.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 02:54 PM (A0ECY)

14 TBF, when 90% of the IC's resources are used to track parents at PTA meetings, it's hard to keep track of Hamas. I mean there are only so many hours in the day, ya know?

Posted by: Montec at October 20, 2023 02:54 PM (P5BwU)

15 I doubt Russia needs to be a middleman in the transaction that leads to the targeting of our SF guys.

Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if Pootin doesn't invite them all to live safely in Russia. Which they likely would be, more than retiring to the U.S. of A.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 02:54 PM (dGCAG)

16 The IC people are busy jacking off to porn, checking up on old boyfriends and girlfriends, investigating normal Americans and planning the 2024 Steal.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 20, 2023 02:49 PM (cMXNt)

Yep.

Posted by: LASue at October 20, 2023 02:55 PM (Ed8Zd)

17
They've turned us inside-out.

It's gonna take a whole lotta mean tweets to turn this shit around.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 20, 2023 02:55 PM (enJYY)

18 No, the purpose of that Egypt story was simple and obvious: to keep the media's focus on Jerusalem's failures, not Washington's.
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This assumes that the normal, expected condition is that we would have known and that we would have warned Israel.

It appears that both of those were wrong, but it's possible that only one of them was wrong.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:55 PM (d04cU)

19 And this is why I am delighted that the House is shut down

Posted by: Joe Ballzchin at October 20, 2023 02:55 PM (CP6Ul)

20 Well which is it? Do you not monitor Hamas and therefore are excused for missing a planned attack, or do you have extensive intelligence on Hamas and therefore can say with certainty that they were not planning this with the US's terrorist ally and nuclear-bomb-making partner Iran?
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Don't box them in like that, Ace. They really don't like it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:56 PM (d04cU)

21 They were too busy fixing elections in the US.

Posted by: henry at October 20, 2023 02:56 PM (JMDly)

22 "Did it ever occur to anyone here that the so-called intelligence community let this happen to start a greater conflict that would cover up for the collapse of the USD and the vaxx deaths?
Posted by: soon to be banned again"

Yes? Probably not for the clot-shot deaths specifically, but as a distraction from any bad news about Biden's business dealings, or Maui, or... any number of other things that make Democrats look bad, yes.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 20, 2023 02:56 PM (ou9hh)

23 Feels like we skipped the Fourth Turning and are in the Fourth Reconciliation of the last of the McKettrick supplicants.

The form of the Hero generation is?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 20, 2023 02:56 PM (f0NjD)

24 I see Joe is so concerned he's off to his beach house today.. Guess he needs some more "juice" as he had to stay up past his bed time this week

Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2023 02:56 PM (bs+z0)

25 >>Lee Smith: How Did Our Trillion-Dollar Society of Incompetents Called Our "Intelligence Community" Miss the Attack on Israel?

IC NPC: WE LACKED IMAGINATION... DERP... WE LACKED IMAGINATION... DERP... WE LACKED....

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 20, 2023 02:56 PM (rc3Z7)

26 TBF, when 90% of the IC's resources are used to track parents at PTA meetings, it's hard to keep track of Hamas. I mean there are only so many hours in the day, ya know?
Posted by: Montec at October 20, 2023 02:54 PM (P5BwU)

And don’t even get us started on those dangerous Latin Massers . Praying and respecting life- yeeesh!! They’re a full time job too.

Posted by: LASue at October 20, 2023 02:57 PM (Ed8Zd)

27 The Biden administration has allocated $72 million to pay the salaries of both the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF) and the country's Internal Security Forces (ISF).
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Huh. I didn't know we directly signed the paychecks for foreign military and intelligence operations.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:57 PM (d04cU)

28 Would this provoke the military overthrow of the government?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 20, 2023 02:58 PM (f0NjD)

29 How Did Our Trillion-Dollar Society of Incompetents Called Our "Intelligence Community" Miss the Attack on Israel?

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I don't think we are in any more danger if we didn't have the intelligence community at all. I think most of the shitty things that have happened in the last 40 years were orchestrated by the intelligence community.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 20, 2023 02:58 PM (R8Jig)

30 A more cynical person than me might say they knew exactly what was going on.

They are either the most incompetent and overpaid idiots in the world (how many "known wolf" terrorists have we had in the US over the years?) OR they're something very dirty afoot here.

Going back to COVID, I think it's safe to say that our government has no problem organizing massive propaganda efforts, and purposely killing American citizens (the nursing home situations, for example), if it suits their agenda.

And I have a hard time believing that our 17 intelligence agencies (or whatever it is) all simultaneously missed ... well, everything they've missed in my lifetime.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2023 02:58 PM (mj0Qp)

31 But reporters at the Journal's Washington, D.C., bureau, who had no access to the Journal's foreign sources, were dead set against their Middle East-based colleagues publishing a piece based on their own reporting that made Iran's role clear. Their interest was in protecting their official sources in Washington, who continued to deny any Iranian role in the attack.
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This is what captive media looks like.

There is not a free press.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:58 PM (d04cU)

32 This might have been talked about yesterday, but just a reminder - a Homeland security officer, who was also a former spokeswoman for the PLO, was recently canned.

https://tinyurl.com/mrxrhm4z

How many of her fellow brethren did she let into the country? How many of her similarly-minded brethren in similar positions are still doing the same?

At least in the end, there will be only chaos. So I've heard, anyway.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 20, 2023 02:58 PM (uGhsv)

33 I don't think we are in any more danger if we didn't have the intelligence community at all. I think most of the shitty things that have happened in the last 40 years were orchestrated by the intelligence community.
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Push it back to at least 1960.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 02:59 PM (A0ECY)

34 In 2019, Yousra Fazili addressed a congressional hearing to complain about the arrest of her cousin by Indian authorities. The woman who now serves as Chief of Staff for the Pentagon Comptroller claimed that her cousin was the innocent victim of oppressive Indian authorities.
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How do you say "Dindu Nuffin" in Hindi?

And when did the Congress become a place to complain about criminal matters involving non-U.S. citizens in other countries?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2023 02:59 PM (lf83v)

35
The vast majority of the NSA's efforts are internal. They spy on everyone, but they the most attention to Americans.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:54 PM

I'd guess by now you heard the two Hamas guys on the phone talking about the rocket fired from the cemetery behind the hospital. If the Israeli's can do it, I'm sure the NSA is just as good.

My wife was trying to get a dental appointment and the secretary asked for her SS#. I yelled, "Not over the phone, damnit." The secretary dropped it.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (enJYY)

36 Huh. I didn't know we directly signed the paychecks for foreign military and intelligence operations.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:57 PM (d04cU)

Eh, why not? Money is just fake and gay anyways, it seems.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (mj0Qp)

37 Those poor special op guys. Having to shake hands with Ballzchin. What a bad day.

Posted by: LASue at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

38 But Trump was hindering some GOPe grifting so the GOPe joined forces with the DNC and deep state to remove Trump and install the senile commie rat bastard.

Lesson to future would be reformers: You have to give a wink and a nod to ordinary grift early on to have any hope of evicting the outright treasonous cads in congress and the vast federal bureaucracy.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (3cGpq)

39 Soon Shah was out and Yousra Fazili was in, joining her sister in a high-level position in the Biden administration. Where Sameera had worked on the economic side of things, Yousra became the Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Defense Programs three years after agitating on behalf of a terrorist supporter.
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And I thought the Atomic Tranny Dog Boy was bad. At least he was just grossly incompetent and unable to the job.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (d04cU)

40 How Did Our Trillion-Dollar Society of Incompetents Called Our "Intelligence Community" Miss the Attack on Israel?

The same way it misses the threat of illegal - and now, also - legal immigration. It's following orders.

We are contaminated with slot-fillers of dubious intent.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (aXxgO)

41 @ShidelerK
DHS, Pentagon, State Department. There's a reason why you keep reading stories like this regarding U.S. government employees linked to radical groups, including terrorists. It's not because the USG can't vet, or doesn't know. They know. It's a choice.
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Yes. Choices in pursuit of a goal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (d04cU)

42 The vast majority of the NSA's efforts are internal. They spy on everyone, but they the most attention to Americans.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:54 PM (d04cU)

If you haven't been approached with a dossier compiled by the CIA, etc., it's either because A. You're squeaky clean, and they don't have anything on you, or 2. You aren't important enough for them to approach you.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (dGCAG)

43 Britain putting 1984 readers on a watch list for "right-wing," i.e., "white," terrorists may be the most totalitarian thing so far this year but there are ten weeks to go and the US and UK are quite insane.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:01 PM (KSNKu)

44 So, we basically funded the attack, knew about the attack, and are busy jamming Israel's ability to respond fittingly to the attack. I'm willing to believe that the whole thing was another planned psy-ops. What the psy-oppers didn't plan for however is the eruption of frothingly pathological, ecstatic hate across the academic and elitist landscape and its PR consequences.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 20, 2023 03:01 PM (GFoyL)

45 I don't think we are in any more danger if we didn't have the intelligence community at all. I think most of the shitty things that have happened in the last 40 years were orchestrated by the intelligence community.

100%

Posted by: Joe Ballzchin at October 20, 2023 03:01 PM (CP6Ul)

46 The Pentagon appoints people with known terrorist sympathies to oversee nuclear programs but the government will put you on a list for reading Lord of the Rings and 1984.
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Yes, of course. Governments - it doesn't matter which one - all do the same thing: enable and reward its friends and allies, and punish its enemies.

If you had any misapprehensions about who are the friends and who are the enemies, you should pay fairly close attention to stories like this one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:02 PM (d04cU)

47

I cant wait to hear someone ask Marrick Garfinkel about this and to hear his idiotic stammering about nothing at all.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at October 20, 2023 03:02 PM (UCNv1)

48 @30

>>And I have a hard time believing that our 17 intelligence agencies (or whatever it is) all simultaneously missed ... well, everything they've missed in my lifetime.

The most illuminating incident for me was the attempted assassination of Pam Geller my Koranimals.

The FBI had infiltrated them, tracked them to the event, had their eyes on them and sat on their asses as the assassins moved in for the kill.

The only reason Pam Geller is not dead is because there were off duty officers at the event and saw what was about to go down and stopped the assassins'.

The LE/IC apparatus of the US is not on our side.

Probably never were.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 20, 2023 03:03 PM (rc3Z7)

49 He further noted that Prevents' "Research Information and Communications Unit" (RICU) has previously listed historical texts as red flags. Essentially, if someone is reading "1984," or works by Lewis, Tolkien, Aldous Huxley, or Joseph Conrad, they should be suspected of being a far-right extremist terrorist. Murray's own book was on the list.
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You mean that an internal intelligence organization shifted over time into an oppressive state security apparatus that seeks to destroy internal variance from the ruling system's preferences?

The hell you say.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:03 PM (d04cU)

50 Our intelligence agencies are made up of lying leftists and anti Americans like Valerie Plame.

Posted by: Drive by at October 20, 2023 03:03 PM (MNhXM)

51
If you haven't been approached with a dossier compiled by the CIA, etc., it's either because A. You're squeaky clean, and they don't have anything on you, or 2. You aren't important enough for them to approach you.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (dGCAG)

"A" no longer applies because if someone is squeaky clean they simply fabricate things now. Exhibit A, of course, is Trump-Russia Collusion. The transition from police state to garbage tier police state happened some time bac.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:04 PM (KSNKu)

52 Yes. Obama wanted more "balance" in the US government between those who wanted to stop Islamic terrorism and those who wanted to aid it or even conduct it.

And this is where we are.

They've turned us inside-out.
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Over the past several (or at this point, the past many) years, it is increasingly difficult to argue that the United States is not captive to an occupation government.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:04 PM (d04cU)

53 42 The vast majority of the NSA's efforts are internal. They spy on everyone, but they the most attention to Americans.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:54 PM (d04cU)

If you haven't been approached with a dossier compiled by the CIA, etc., it's either because A. You're squeaky clean, and they don't have anything on you, or 2. You aren't important enough for them to approach you.

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C. They convinced themselves you are on their side.

Posted by: henry at October 20, 2023 03:04 PM (JMDly)

54 Our special ops people are so smart that they first looked to see if there were cameras in the room to ensure they could not be identified before taint licking a decrepit fossilized pedophile

Oh wait they didnt?

Whoops!

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Dreaming of Lauren Boebert's Sweater Puppies at October 20, 2023 03:04 PM (VTu1l)

55 Has Israel figured out they are nothing more than a satrap in the US's empire? They are on par with Ukraine.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:04 PM (A0ECY)

56 Ariane Tabatabai, thought he might have brought her in because she's hot. Not.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (G9Y8y)

57 I would not blame any member of that team, if any of his brothers were harmed or killed by this clusterfuck, from going after that demented POS, a lo Jason Bourne, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (XMwZJ)

58 37 Those poor special op guys. Having to shake hands with Ballzchin. What a bad day.
Posted by: LASue at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

Embrace the suck!

Posted by: 1%er at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (53oGX)

59 Britain putting 1984 readers on a watch list for "right-wing," i.e., "white," terrorists may be the most totalitarian thing so far this year but there are ten weeks to go and the US and UK are quite insane.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:01 PM (KSNKu)

Can’t have people on the Right reading the Left’s playbook. That’s cheating.

Posted by: Drive by at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (MNhXM)

60 Congresswoman Cori Bush
@RepCori

What we’re not going to do is call yesterday’s courageous and nonviolent anti-war, pro-peace demonstrations an “insurrection”.
This was “good trouble” civil disobedience.

(And let's be clear: Jan. 6 was not civil disobedience; it was an insurrection)

As a politivist in Congress, I know the power of civil disobedience.
Civil disobedience has been used throughout history to fight back against oppression, violence & injustice. It's been used to protest the Vietnam War, South African apartheid, Jim Crow, police brutality & more.

Civil disobedience is often undermined and criminalized in attempts to preserve the status quo.

For example, Nelson Mandela was on the U.S. terrorist watch list until 2008. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was actively targeted by the FBI.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (NpAcC)

61 58 37 Those poor special op guys. Having to shake hands with Ballzchin. What a bad day.
Posted by: LASue at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

Embrace the suck!
Posted by: 1%er at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (53oGX)

Damn right I did!

Posted by: Kamala at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (53oGX)

62 They didn't miss it.

And the release of the unredacted photo. Was intentional.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (TzW+Y)

63

Just before the 1967 war I sucked rebar out of Golda's prolapsed garbage bag!

Posted by: Joey Biden, Crack SBD Pilot at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (9Irxs)

64 In the intelligence community are the 51 highly paid government professionals who lied their asses off to us about the Hunter Biden laptop.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (MeG8a)

65 61 58 37 Those poor special op guys. Having to shake hands with Ballzchin. What a bad day.
Posted by: LASue at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

Embrace the suck!
Posted by: 1%er at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (53oGX)

Damn right I did!
Posted by: Kamala at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (53oGX)

She's got way more energy than I do!

Posted by: Annie Knight at October 20, 2023 03:06 PM (53oGX)

66 More than a few in SOF are not on our side politically .

Posted by: Drive by at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (MNhXM)

67 ... As a politivist in Congress, I know the power of civil disobedience.
Civil disobedience has been used throughout history to fight back against oppression, violence & injustice. It's been used to protest the Vietnam War, South African apartheid, Jim Crow, police brutality & more.

Civil disobedience is often undermined and criminalized in attempts to preserve the status quo.

For example, Nelson Mandela was on the U.S. terrorist watch list until 2008. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was actively targeted by the FBI.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (NpAcC)
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It's funny if you think about it because she's actually sort of right but only if you understand the reality.

Jan 6 was civil disobedience. The recent "storming of the Capitol" was not. Who is in charge?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (d04cU)

68 So, Biden has his Iranian moles, while Obama openly shared all with his advocate and confidant, the Iranian tool Valerie Jarrett. And no one in a position to do anything bothered to raise the issue?

Between these clearly insane appointments and freakshows like Sam Brinton getting Top Secret Security clearances, what the hell are the CIA and FBI even there for? Whistleblowers ought to pouring out of the woodwork.

I know I sound like a Pollyanna, but holy shit.

Posted by: red speck at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (0Id0S)

69 Lee Smith was a helluva pitcher.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (2cS/G)

70 From all evidence the CIA does no intelligence work outside the borders of the US, where they are specifically forbidden to work.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (eoQWY)

71 Did you know there is a Muslim Federal Employee Association?

www.mosaicfeds.org

Their goal is to "Establishing a professional network for Muslims in federal government."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (lf83v)

72 The commies, the spies and the terrorists don't even need to use Trojan horses anymore - they can just walk right on in, no questions asked.

Posted by: Paco at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (njExo)

73 Guys.

You have no idea.

Posted by: 2024 at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (/qa9n)

74 Author Douglas Murray published a scathing review of the British government's counter-terrorism Prevent program, which has apparently reported that authors like George Orwell, J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis can radicalize readers.

On that note, I've begun reading C.S. Lewis's SciFi trilogy.

#RESIST

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (sAmhv)

75 I'm pretty sure those guys are Delta operators. The unit that the Army will not confirms exists.

Posted by: JasonG at October 20, 2023 03:08 PM (4UJFO)

76 48 @30

>>And I have a hard time believing that our 17 intelligence agencies (or whatever it is) all simultaneously missed ... well, everything they've missed in my lifetime.

The most illuminating incident for me was the attempted assassination of Pam Geller my Koranimals.

The FBI had infiltrated them, tracked them to the event, had their eyes on them and sat on their asses as the assassins moved in for the kill.

The only reason Pam Geller is not dead is because there were off duty officers at the event and saw what was about to go down and stopped the assassins'.

The LE/IC apparatus of the US is not on our side.

Probably never were.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 20, 2023 03:03 PM (rc3Z7)

If I recall, dude got a headshot on one of them from 40 yds or so. deadeye

Posted by: Inogame at October 20, 2023 03:08 PM (53oGX)

77 Montec: "TBF, when 90% of the IC's resources are used to track parents at PTA meetings, it's hard to keep track of Hamas. I mean there are only so many hours in the day, ya know?"

That may well be true. They assess what they perceive to be the biggest "threat". Not to the country's citizens, but to the regime and power structure. That's the essential distinction.

IC/Admin has not felt truly threatened by outside forces. (Not even China given how many are owned by the CCP.) We are a superpower, so external threat to the Leviathan is truly limited. No, the real, contemporaneous threat is a populace ready to turn the IC/Admin out. That's existential. To them.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at October 20, 2023 03:08 PM (aXxgO)

78 Did it ever occur to anyone here that the so-called intelligence community let this happen to start a greater conflict that would cover up for the collapse of the USD and the vaxx deaths?
Posted by: soon to be banned again at October 20, 2023 02:51 PM (tjZg/)

Saying that the intelligence community is that competent is quite a stretch. They missed the fall of the USSR, after all.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (eoQWY)

79 In the land of the blind, the guy with Crohn's gets a wide berth.

Posted by: Favorite Agency Slogans at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (DZrNt)

80 55 Has Israel figured out they are nothing more than a satrap in the US's empire? They are on par with Ukraine.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:04 PM (A0ECY)

Based on Biden's "aid package," Israel is subordinate to the Ukraine, and the United States' border security is subordinate to both. The Banana Empire almost is as retarded as it is corrupt.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (KSNKu)

81 Guys.

You have no idea.
Posted by: 2024

**********

Bitch, please

Posted by: 2025 - Post-Nuclear Fallout at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (VTu1l)

82 Fairly simple. Our intelligence services are not intelligent. They're corrupt and self sustaining, pretty much like all of our other bureaucracies.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (O8bOp)

83 If you haven't been approached with a dossier compiled by the CIA, etc., it's either because A. You're squeaky clean, and they don't have anything on you, or 2. You aren't important enough for them to approach you.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:00 PM (dGCAG)

"A" no longer applies because if someone is squeaky clean they simply fabricate things now. Exhibit A, of course, is Trump-Russia Collusion. The transition from police state to garbage tier police state happened some time bac.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:04 PM (KSNKu)

Right, yes. What I meant though, is that they can't use you, so they won't generally approach you or me, either because we're not important enough to them, or they don't HAVE anything with which to blackmail or otherwise coerce us.

Of course, if they decide they want to get you, they'll get you. We've really only begun to live in the age of AI and deepfakes.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (dGCAG)

84 70 From all evidence the CIA does no intelligence work outside the borders of the US, where they are specifically forbidden to work.
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Did you mean FBI? The CIA is all about overseas. BTW, the FBI has units working overseas. Billy Clinton gave them that carve out.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (XetL6)

85 That may well be true. They assess what they perceive to be the biggest "threat". Not to the country's citizens, but to the regime and power structure. That's the essential distinction.

IC/Admin has not felt truly threatened by outside forces. (Not even China given how many are owned by the CCP.) We are a superpower, so external threat to the Leviathan is truly limited. No, the real, contemporaneous threat is a populace ready to turn the IC/Admin out. That's existential. To them.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at October 20, 2023 03:08 PM (aXxgO)
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The shift from "national security" to "state security" is fairly easy to achieve. It appears to happen naturally unless it is actively thwarted.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (d04cU)

86 The Biden administration has allocated $72 million to pay the salaries of both the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF) and the country's Internal Security Forces (ISF).
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Huh. I didn't know we directly signed the paychecks for foreign military and intelligence operations.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 02:57 PM (d04cU)

Foreign and HOSTILE. Lebanon is run by Hezbollah, right?

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:10 PM (eoQWY)

87 In the intelligence community are the 51 highly paid government professionals who lied their asses off to us about the Hunter Biden laptop.

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Well coming off assassinating a president this is day to day stuff now

Posted by: 2025 - Post-Nuclear Fallout at October 20, 2023 03:10 PM (VTu1l)

88 Based on Biden's "aid package," Israel is subordinate to the Ukraine, and the United States' border security is subordinate to both. The Banana Empire almost is as retarded as it is corrupt.
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Well, its well known that Obama doesn't like Bibi.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:11 PM (XetL6)

89 It's funny if you think about it because she's actually sort of right but only if you understand the reality.

Jan 6 was civil disobedience. The recent "storming of the Capitol" was not. Who is in charge?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (d04cU)
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From this day forward 1/6 should be called a day of civil disobedience.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 20, 2023 03:11 PM (NpAcC)

90 70 From all evidence the CIA does no intelligence work outside the borders of the US, where they are specifically forbidden to work.
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Did you mean FBI? The CIA is all about overseas. BTW, the FBI has units working overseas. Billy Clinton gave them that carve out.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (XetL6)

No, I meant what I said. Have they ever detected ANYTHING before it happened? They were blindsided by the fall of the USSR, and in the local alternative paper there was a column predicting which eastern bloc state would break free next that entire year.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:12 PM (eoQWY)

91 Foreign and HOSTILE. Lebanon is run by Hezbollah, right?
Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:10 PM (eoQWY)
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Not exactly. Hezbollah wants Lebanon but doesn't exactly have it. They have parts of it.

Israel is an ally and it should be surprising - but it isn't - that we're financing the destruction of their spy networks in a neighboring country that is unstable and at risk of falling to a sworn enemy (Hezbollah).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:12 PM (d04cU)

92 OK, uh, what were OUR Spec Ops guys doing in Israel?

Under what Authorized Use of Force mandate, or treaty, are US Forces being deployed into a war zone?

Can't use the war on Terror AUMF, unless you designate Hamas as a Taliban ally... which they won't do.

We need to put a cap on this never ending War created by the Pentagon and Executive branch.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2023 03:12 PM (QPmu4)

93 Guys.

You have no idea.
Posted by: 2024 at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (/qa9n)

I think it's close to 100% Covid 23 is being released quietly, slowly as we speak.

Or maybe they don't have to call it Covid 23, they can just call it Covid 19, Megatron variant.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:12 PM (dGCAG)

94 "Smith then addresses a bizarre contradictory claim by the US "inteligence" community:"

Grammar Police. Pull over. One more time and we pull your license.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2023 03:13 PM (OYDDz)

95 81 Guys.

You have no idea.
Posted by: 2024

**********

Bitch, please
Posted by: 2025 - Post-Nuclear Fallout at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (VTu1l)

Good stuff. Be sure to make a hard copy of it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:13 PM (KSNKu)

96 For example, Nelson Mandela was on the U.S. terrorist watch list until 2008. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was actively targeted by the FBI.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (NpAcC)
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It's funny if you think about it because she's actually sort of right but only if you understand the reality.

Jan 6 was civil disobedience. The recent "storming of the Capitol" was not. Who is in charge?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (d04cU)

Actions may look similar but comparisons are not always logical. To me it’s good versus evil and as I like to say, the sheep can’t tell the difference between the sheepdog and the wolf.

Posted by: Drive by at October 20, 2023 03:13 PM (MNhXM)

97 Seriously, if we had no IC would there be much of a difference to our national security?

I know there would be to democrat party security and the federal government but to everyday Americans I think it would actually make us more secure.

Change my mind.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 20, 2023 03:13 PM (17s+e)

98 No, I meant what I said. Have they ever detected ANYTHING before it happened? They were blindsided by the fall of the USSR, and in the local alternative paper there was a column predicting which eastern bloc state would break free next that entire year
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Oh, this is about efficacy. Different subject. Idiots can be idiots in CONUS and OCONUS. We're an EEO Employer.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:14 PM (XetL6)

99 Speaking of intelligence . . .

Congresswoman Cori Bush
@RepCori
What we’re not going to do is call yesterday’s courageous and nonviolent anti-war, pro-peace demonstrations an “insurrection”.
This was “good trouble” civil disobedience 🧵
(And let's be clear: Jan. 6 was not civil disobedience; it was an insurrection)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 20, 2023 03:14 PM (FVME7)

100 As if we needed any more proof that Old Man Quiver is just 0bama: Reloaded.

Posted by: logprof at October 20, 2023 03:14 PM (j6yHt)

101 81 Guys.

You have no idea.
Posted by: 2024

**********

Bitch, please
Posted by: 2025 - Post-Nuclear Fallout at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (VTu1l)

/Puts on his PipBoy

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2023 03:15 PM (QPmu4)

102 Clown spies. Operating in Clown World.

Posted by: creeper at October 20, 2023 03:15 PM (cTCuP)

103 "Yes. Obama wanted more "balance" in the US government between those who wanted to stop Islamic terrorism and those who wanted to aid it or even conduct it."

It's always wise to hear the opposing view on intelligence matters. That's just sagacious. But when that opinion comes from the very people you're trying to protect against, it's called espionage.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2023 03:15 PM (OYDDz)

104 From this day forward 1/6 should be called a day of civil disobedience.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 20, 2023 03:11 PM (NpAcC)

January 6th should be made into a national holiday to replace Juneteenth.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:15 PM (KSNKu)

105 It's reports like this that make me more and more convinced that the US Intel agencies helped plan 9/11. Just can't shake off the thoughts.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 20, 2023 03:15 PM (BdMk6)

106 That piece of shit Biden os responsible for the deaths of more special operators than the Taliban. What a malignant, evil, asshole.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 20, 2023 03:16 PM (57chq)

107 From all evidence the CIA does no intelligence work outside the borders of the US, where they are specifically forbidden to work.
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Did you mean FBI? The CIA is all about overseas. BTW, the FBI has units working overseas. Billy Clinton gave them that carve out.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:09 PM (XetL6)

I read it as "the CIA ONLY works inside the US, even though they are explicitly forbitten from doing so."

Meaning, yeah. What it says they do on paper, has no bearing on reality.

Which, I'd assume they do SOME stuff overseas, but yeah, they're mostly focused on domestic ops.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:16 PM (dGCAG)

108 Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:12 PM (eoQWY)

You didn’t do the pretext that they are forbidden to internally spy and created to assess threats outside of the USA. That they appear to do the opposite is the joke.

Posted by: Drive by at October 20, 2023 03:17 PM (MNhXM)

109 January 6th should be made into a national holiday to replace Juneteenth.
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We first need to erect a Buffalo Head Shaman statue of liberty.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:17 PM (XetL6)

110 China will use its own AI capabilities to scour the internet for other photos of these men. It will identify them, and then it will turn over their identities to Russia, who will in turn turn over the assassination packages to their Islamic allies.
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Somebody had to restore the normalcy of SNAFU.

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:17 PM (krQz2)

111 Yes. Obama wanted more "balance" in the US government between those who wanted to stop Islamic terrorism and those who wanted to aid it or even conduct it.

And this is where we are.

They've turned us inside-out.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

THEY have committed treason.
THEY need to pray the balloon never goes up.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 20, 2023 03:17 PM (uiWTm)

112 Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:16 PM (dGCAG)

War on Terror legislation specifically broke down the barriers between the internal and external intelligence agencies...

and the Military intelligence agencies as well.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2023 03:17 PM (QPmu4)

113 U.S. troops have been permanently stationed in Israel since 2017. The base is an air defense base located inside the Israeli Air Force’s Mashabim Air Base, west of the towns of Dimona and Yerucham in the heart of the Negev desert. Dozens of US Air Force soldiers are stationed at the base.

https://shorturl.at/astI6

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2023 03:17 PM (lf83v)

114 /Puts on his PipBoy

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I need to do some more Fallout 3 gaming for preparation

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom of Love at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (VTu1l)

115 Joe Biden marched at Selma, flew to South Africa to meet with Mandela in prison, then swung by Israel to meet Golda. All on his spring break junior year of college at UD.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (57chq)

116 Trump brought such turmoil that nobody could complete the task of burning Delta Force!

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (krQz2)

117 Great post, ace. A lot to process.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (V8he0)

118 Somebody had to restore the normalcy of SNAFU.
Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:17 PM (krQz2)
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If things get big and messy enough, JANFU will make a reappearance.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (d04cU)

119 How could the IC miss it? It's what they do. They missed the USSR's collapse. They missed 9/11. Missing shit is their SOP. The odd time they do catch something, it's the exception.

Posted by: Montec at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (P5BwU)

120 > And the release of the unredacted photo. Was intentional.

Biden *accidentally* revealed which team killed OBL. Shortly after that, Army Rangers faced unusually strong resistance when taking on a Taliban compound. After two hours of fighting, Taliban managed to shoot down the reinforcement helicopter, killing 17 SEALs from Team 6 and seven Afghan commandoes, a military dog, and an interpreter. This was the most deadly attack on SEALs ever, and just happened to kill members of the same team that took on OBL.

I'm convinced someone in Obama's circle gave them intel to carry this attack out as blood payment for OBL.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (0N1h0)

121 They were blindsided by the fall of the USSR

The 1989 IC report said that the USSR wasn't going anywhere and would be around for years to come. The Berlin Wall fell a week later.

Slight exaggeration but it sure seemed like it at the time.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (sAmhv)

122 Joe Biden marched at Selma, flew to South Africa to meet with Mandela in prison, then swung by Israel to meet Golda. All on his spring break junior year of college at UD.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (57chq)
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If aliens ever visit this planet, he was raised in an alien enclave--true story!

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:19 PM (krQz2)

123 Ya know this is not brain surgery. Basically there are good guys in the world and bad guys.

Iran and Hamas and the other usual suspect are the bad guys

The US and Israel and a few others are the good guys (for the most part)

And it is really is a simple as that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2023 03:19 PM (pVWRI)

124 OT: Chug-a-lug champine of the world!

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/zgN14oadbRw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (FVME7)

125 If aliens ever visit this planet, he was raised in an alien enclave--true story!
Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:19 PM (krQz2)

That I would believe

Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (bs+z0)

126 For example, Nelson Mandela was on the U.S. terrorist watch list until 2008. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was actively targeted by the FBI.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 20, 2023 03:05 PM (NpAcC)
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Mandela was a straight-up communist, not a saint.

MLK was no saint either. He was a crypto Red, or at least a Red sympathizer, as became apparent in his later years in talking about, e.g., Vietnam.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (YqDXo)

127 The 1989 IC report said that the USSR wasn't going anywhere and would be around for years to come. The Berlin Wall fell a week later.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (sAmhv)
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Wonder how many "Intelligence" officials you could have got to sign off on that?

50 maybe?

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (krQz2)

128 On that note, I've begun reading C.S. Lewis's SciFi trilogy.

#RESIST

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (sAmhv)

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Out: Thought Crimes.
In: Plot Crimes.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (8odFl)

129 HHS employees who resist Biden’s transgender pronoun mandate will be fired

Posted by: Land of the Free! at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (/qa9n)

130 I watched Spiel Like Us recently. It's on U-Toob. Seems a lot more documentary than comedy these days.

Posted by: Montec at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (P5BwU)

131 It's going to be very difficult to issue statements of regret over the annihilation of Israel, coupled with demands for additional budget to prevent such catastrophes in the future . . when you obstinate Jesus People keep insisting we should prevent the annihilation.

Hey with the program, mouth breathers!

Posted by: The Inelligence Community at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (8AONa)

132 > Nelson Mandela was on the U.S. terrorist watch list until 2008.

Mandela belonged on the US terrorist watch list. He helped found the ANC and his wife was a proud terrorist. He sat in prison for as long as he did because he refused to help the government rein in the terrorist ANC group he helped create.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2023 03:21 PM (0N1h0)

133 129 HHS employees who resist Biden’s transgender pronoun mandate will be fired
Posted by: Land of the Free! at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (/qa9n)

Looks like a law suit to me

Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2023 03:21 PM (bs+z0)

134 :...which is why it was strange to hear that the Cairo government had given a heads-up about the attack to Jerusalem but not Washington."

Would you trust Joe Biden and his with a secret?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 20, 2023 03:21 PM (8fxF+)

135 117 Great post, ace. A lot to process.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (V8he0)

Agreed. It says a lot that the 1984-as-indicia-of-terrorism is not a stand-alone post, but that is 2019 thinking on my part.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:21 PM (KSNKu)

136 MLK was no saint either. He was a crypto Red, or at least a Red sympathizer, as became apparent in his later years in talking about, e.g., Vietnam.
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He had a thing for white women, too. Just ask RFK Jr about his dad's surveillance of MLK.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:21 PM (XetL6)

137 Basically there are good guys in the world and bad guys.

Iran and Hamas and the other usual suspect are the bad guys

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2023 03:19 PM (pVWRI)
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I did Nazi that comink!

Posted by: You Know Who at October 20, 2023 03:21 PM (krQz2)

138 Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons: "It's reports like this that make me more and more convinced that the US Intel agencies helped plan 9/11."

Counterpoint: It was Bush (which is to say the globalist wing) that was forced - forced - to close the borders and stop his agenda to merge Central/South America and Canada into an EU-like trade conglomerate sans sovereign power. I don't think he was in on it because he had a hard-on for globalization. If IC went rogue, I guess that's possible. But Bush and his team (and his family) were tick deep into the IC hide, so they'd have been really rogue.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at October 20, 2023 03:22 PM (aXxgO)

139 133 129 HHS employees who resist Biden’s transgender pronoun mandate will be fired
Posted by: Land of the Free! at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (/qa9n)

Looks like a law suit to me
Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2023 03:21 PM (bs+z0)

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LOL!!
- DC Judges

Posted by: Montec at October 20, 2023 03:22 PM (P5BwU)

140 Someone wrote a biography of Slow Joe?

https://tinyurl.com/33zs3dsy

Posted by: logprof at October 20, 2023 03:22 PM (j6yHt)

141 No, I meant what I said. Have they ever detected ANYTHING before it happened? They were blindsided by the fall of the USSR, and in the local alternative paper there was a column predicting which eastern bloc state would break free next that entire year.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:12 PM (eoQWY)

Cold War era legends tell us the U.S. would send operatives into Eastern Europe, but the CIA was so compromised, the Soviets and East Germans etc. knew who was coming, when and where. They would grab them as soon as they got there, send reports back to Langley, saying how they'd infiltrated this or that, but that there was so much going on they needed to send more agents.

Which they did.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:22 PM (dGCAG)

142 Nelson Mandela was on the U.S. terrorist watch list until 2008.
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Long after he was dead.

Posted by: Berenstein Bear Universe at October 20, 2023 03:22 PM (krQz2)

143 A more cynical person than me might say they knew exactly what was going on.

They are either the most incompetent and overpaid idiots in the world (how many "known wolf" terrorists have we had in the US over the years?) OR they're something very dirty afoot here.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 20, 2023 02:58 PM (mj0Qp)

You have to be nuts to think that there was a plan here. Both Israel and the US look feeble and incompetent as a result of the casualties and the lack of response. The US appears to be back on the appeasement train like every time before.

Forcing an attack might be 'smart' if it were repelled or if you had a decisive response. But none of this happened.

Both here and in Israel it appears, rather, that politicking is the main occupation of the IC and thus they miss everything. Even in the 'good days' the US was notorious for spending tons of effort on high tech spying and getting little bang for the buck. There were even running jokes over it.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:23 PM (eoQWY)

144 > MLK was no saint either. He was a crypto Red, or at least a Red sympathizer, as became apparent in his later years in talking about, e.g., Vietnam.

MLK was a serial adulterer, he plagiarized a significant part of his thesis, and he surrounded himself with open commies like W.E.B. DuBois.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2023 03:23 PM (0N1h0)

145 >>> "the CIA ONLY works inside the US, even though they are explicitly forbitten from doing so."

Work?
They and the FIB can just make shit up like they did with Trump, right out of the gate.
If the do it to the President they probably do it to everyone. And by "it" I mean fabricate crimes to frame people for.

There is a reason 90% including Syndnee what's herbaceous (autocucumber rules) plead out. 'Cause they going to prison no matter what. Defendant knows its a total fabrication while everyone else nods sagely to the prosecutor's lies.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 20, 2023 03:24 PM (AmKdX)

146 132 > Nelson Mandela was on the U.S. terrorist watch list until 2008.

Mandela belonged on the US terrorist watch list. He helped found the ANC and his wife was a proud terrorist. He sat in prison for as long as he did because he refused to help the government rein in the terrorist ANC group he helped create.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2023 03:21 PM (0N1h0)

Yep. And mark this: Israel is well into being made into modern-day version of pre-1992 South Africa. As was the case then, the United States simply is lagging a little behind Europe and the rest of the world but will jump to the front of the line soon enough, again as happened in the past.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:24 PM (KSNKu)

147 The weekend is here

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2023 03:25 PM (fwDg9)

148 The Egyptians have absolute disdain for the Palestinians. That's because like in Jordan, they worked to undermine the legitimate government and were heavily involved with the MB. They don't want any of those people on their soil because they don't have any illusions about what most of them support. They even flooded their tunnels in the Sinai with seawater to stop the smuggling of arms and other materials.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2023 03:25 PM (OYDDz)

149 129 HHS employees who resist Biden’s transgender pronoun mandate will be fired
Posted by: Land of the Free! at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (/qa9n)

The only pronoun you need when speaking to a person is 'you'.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:25 PM (eoQWY)

150 MLK was a serial adulterer, he plagiarized a significant part of his thesis, and he surrounded himself with open commies like W.E.B. DuBois.
Posted by: bonhomme

The World Wide W.E.B.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 20, 2023 03:25 PM (KAi1n)

151 One thing I'd like to note:

The invasion of foreign terrorists into our government will not be stopped or slowed by electing a republican president.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 20, 2023 03:25 PM (KbCG3)

152 There is a reason 90% including Syndnee what's herbaceous (autocucumber rules) plead out. 'Cause they going to prison no matter what. Defendant knows its a total fabrication while everyone else nods sagely to the prosecutor's lies.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 20, 2023 03:24 PM (AmKdX)

True fact: Saddam Hussein's judiciary had a lower conviction rate than the federal one has here.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 20, 2023 03:26 PM (KSNKu)

153 The Egyptians have absolute disdain for the Palestinians. That's because like in Jordan, they worked to undermine the legitimate government and were heavily involved with the MB. They don't want any of those people on their soil because they don't have any illusions about what most of them support. They even flooded their tunnels in the Sinai with seawater to stop the smuggling of arms and other materials.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 20, 2023 03:25 PM (OYDDz)

They also did something in Egypt in the same line but didn't get as far along with it IIRC.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:26 PM (eoQWY)

154 Remember: a dozen FBI agents were on the scene, overnighted from DC, because someone claimed they saw a noose in a NASCAR garage.

That's the manpower they can deploy when they want to.

They will "miss" the next Muslim terrorist attack here. Just as they have "missed" every single one since 9/11.

See the pattern?

You are the national security threat they are worried about ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 20, 2023 03:26 PM (TzW+Y)

155 Joe Biden marched at Selma, flew to South Africa to meet with Mandela in prison, then swung by Israel to meet Golda. All on his spring break junior year of college at UD.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 20, 2023 03:18 PM (57chq)

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Which necessitated him missing that college football season, clearing the way for Roger Staubach to win the Heisman Trophy that year instead of him.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 20, 2023 03:26 PM (8odFl)

156 MLK was no saint either. He was a crypto Red, or at least a Red sympathizer, as became apparent in his later years in talking about, e.g., Vietnam.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 20, 2023 03:20 PM (YqDXo)

MLK joined the Republican Party late in his life.

And I would say if everyone who opposed the Vietnam war was supposedly a communist, then I guess I'm a communist. Retroactively, I guess.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:27 PM (dGCAG)

157 MLK was rapishy as well.

He denied the divinity of Christ so it was not Christianity he preached.

Posted by: logprof at October 20, 2023 03:27 PM (j6yHt)

158 [MLK] denied the divinity of Christ so it was not Christianity he preached.
Posted by: logprof at October 20, 2023 03:27 PM (j6yHt)
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I never heard that.

Of course, I've never heard him say much that couldn't be attributed to "Christianism".

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:29 PM (krQz2)

159 Yakdeh: to deceive

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 20, 2023 03:29 PM (8fxF+)

160 And I would say if everyone who opposed the Vietnam war was supposedly a communist, then I guess I'm a communist. Retroactively, I guess.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:27 PM (dGCAG)

Actively oppose like burning draft cards, spitting on soldiers, demanding surrender and giving aid and comfort to the enemy ? Yeah commie or at the very least useful idiots of the communists,

Posted by: Drive by at October 20, 2023 03:30 PM (MNhXM)

161 Biden is AI: Artificially Intelligent.

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:30 PM (krQz2)

162 > HHS employees who resist Biden’s transgender pronoun mandate will be fired
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Huh. I thought it was impossible to fire federal civil servants.

Who knew?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 20, 2023 03:30 PM (Q4IgG)

163 Forget collapse of the USSR, political events are very hard to predict, it's always "50/50" , yo know ? But, 9/11 ??? I am not saying it is an inside job, or some shit like that, but that level of Incompetence ??

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2023 03:30 PM (V13WU)

164 I submit they knew yet withheld.

Like with Trump.

Like with Covid.

Like the border.

It's a long list if you think about it.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 20, 2023 03:30 PM (Z8Yh2)

165 >>>Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said he was briefed on the Egyptian intelligence story. But if the account were true, he might have asked what the United States is getting in exchange for a $2 billion annual aid package if not previews of every piece of intelligence the Egyptian military and intelligence services collect.
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McCaul is an NPC tool.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:31 PM (G9Y8y)

166 MLK was rapishy as well.

He denied the divinity of Christ so it was not Christianity he preached.
Posted by: logprof at October 20, 2023 03:27 PM (j6yHt)

Most of what is "known" about MLK is info delivered by the very same "intelligence community" that people have come to understand now as working against the well being of the American people.

I figure any enemy of theirs is a friend of mine. Even if they are sinners... because hey, so am I.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:31 PM (dGCAG)

167 Long after he was dead. Posted by: Berenstein Bear Universe

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Yep

Posted by: Fruit of the Loom - Yes we have a cornucopia! at October 20, 2023 03:31 PM (VTu1l)

168 Huh. I thought it was impossible to fire federal civil servants.

Who knew?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 20, 2023 03:30 PM (Q4IgG)
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Well, it's never been about so grievous a thing as not remembering somebody's fourth or fifth name!

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:32 PM (krQz2)

169 Can I take a guess how they missed it?

Because they are on the Muslims side

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2023 03:32 PM (fwDg9)

170 War on Terror legislation specifically broke down the barriers between the internal and external intelligence agencies...

and the Military intelligence agencies as well.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 20, 2023 03:17 PM (QPmu4)

That is always a mistake. You want at least MI and the political Intelligence Spies separated so they don't get the same groupthink.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:32 PM (eoQWY)

171 "No, they will never do that !" why not ?? they have been talking about it for decades and tried to blow up WTC once already. That is why Bush in that recent interview said, "you have to take them seriously." It was a good interview he gave, reminded me what was what.

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2023 03:33 PM (V13WU)

172 Actively oppose like burning draft cards, spitting on soldiers, demanding surrender and giving aid and comfort to the enemy ? Yeah commie or at the very least useful idiots of the communists,
Posted by: Drive by at October 20, 2023 03:30 PM (MNhXM)

Fine, use your strawman, and light him on fire.

I used the word "opposed." You can condemn everyone who opposed that war, or any other, but I don't.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:34 PM (dGCAG)

173 And when Iranians yap that the Islamic Republic will annihilate Israel, they intend to do it.

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2023 03:34 PM (V13WU)

174 What I wanted to know is why nobody respected Gina Carino on bop express pronouns!

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:34 PM (krQz2)

175 And when Muslem Brotherhood pushes for Islamic Caliphate and Sharia , they mean it.

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2023 03:35 PM (V13WU)

176 Clearing up what the IC knew about the attack on Israel would probably be considered a breach.

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:37 PM (krQz2)

177 Before MLK stirred up things to fruition there was a vibrant and growing merchant class of blacks. If there was a merchant class then there was growing class of patrons. They were completely (virtually) destroyed by the Great Society which MLK inseminated.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:37 PM (G9Y8y)

178 And how did the Mossad, which used to have a higher level of competence....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:37 PM (xcxpd)

179 Did it ever occur to anyone here that the so-called intelligence community let this happen to start a greater conflict that would cover up for the collapse of the USD and the vaxx deaths?
Posted by: soon to be banned again"

No. Get Isreal to handle Hamss.

Link Isreal money with Ukraine money.

Win. Win for MIC and Biden. He doesn't have to "sell" Ukraine ask.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 20, 2023 03:38 PM (jDBwn)

180 MLK may well have been a tool of DeepState.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:38 PM (G9Y8y)

181 Forget collapse of the USSR, political events are very hard to predict, it's always "50/50" , yo know ? But, 9/11 ??? I am not saying it is an inside job, or some shit like that, but that level of Incompetence ??
Posted by: runner at October 20, 2023 03:30 PM (V13WU)

sorry, its pretty much a rule of revolts against coups and revolts that a quick, forceful reaction is required to nip things in the bud before the idea begins to spread. China did that with Tiennaman Square. USSR did it with Prague and Hungary. When the USSR didn't do anything in the early 90s the end was inevitable.

As I said, snarky college underclassmen knew it instantly and were absolutely correct. You need a huge organization to remain blind to what is actually happening.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:38 PM (eoQWY)

182 Hey, here's another question: if you're SF undercover (SOF-D or some other flavor), why would you show up barefaced in a venue with a cameraman present?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:39 PM (xcxpd)

183 Hey don't blame me! My assignment is you people!

- Bob, NSA

Posted by: Archer at October 20, 2023 03:39 PM (gmo/4)

184 OK, not giving away any particular state secrets, but it's not hard to find out who's in Delta if you hang around certain bars in Fayetteville and are a moderately attractive woman after midnight. Just sayin'.

That has a long pedigree, too. Charlie Beckwith broke his collarbone falling off a barstool at the Heart of Fayetteville motel bar on Bragg Boulevard.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2023 03:39 PM (7B5FA)

185 178 And how did the Mossad, which used to have a higher level of competence....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo
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They are not of Sharon's generation.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:39 PM (G9Y8y)

186 > He denied the divinity of Christ so it was not Christianity he preached.

What specifically did MLK say that denied the divinity of Christ?

Posted by: bonhomme at October 20, 2023 03:39 PM (0N1h0)

187 In a world where justice was delivered more swiftly, they'd all die from gangrene of their gonads and rectal sphincters...

HOWEVER! The Lord wants to give them a chance to either repent or pile on more sin so that their hereafter will have them wishing it was only gangrene of their gonads and rectal sphincters

Posted by: setnaffa at October 20, 2023 03:40 PM (kSZiE)

188 180 MLK may well have been a tool of DeepState.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:38 PM (G9Y8y)

So why did the FBI kill him?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

189 I think snarky college underclassmen predicting anything of value is an example of a broken clock, etc.

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2023 03:40 PM (V13WU)

190 They were completely (virtually) destroyed by the Great Society which MLK inseminated. Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:37 PM (G9Y8y)

I think LBJ had some salty comments about future voting patterns.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 20, 2023 03:40 PM (7B5FA)

191 Hey, here's another question: if you're SF undercover (SOF-D or some other flavor), why would you show up barefaced in a venue with a cameraman present?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:39 PM (xcxpd)

Because the unit commander is an idiot and a product of our modern military leadership.

Posted by: Archer at October 20, 2023 03:40 PM (gmo/4)

192 Lee Smith was a helluva pitcher.
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 20, 2023 03:07 PM (2cS/G)

Way overrated, actually. In the era where lots of pitches were getting lots of soft saves, he was the king of it.

Give up a run or two by walking a couple batters, and giving up a couple hits before he gets the third out, you can rack up 40 or more saves a year that way. And he did.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:41 PM (dGCAG)

193 "Whistleblowers have not yet emerged on this IC failure...from the lake where they are said to have drowned earlier this week."

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:41 PM (krQz2)

194
You are the national security threat they are worried about ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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"They're coming after you — and I'm just standing in their way," - Trump

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 20, 2023 03:41 PM (XeU6L)

195 MLK may well have been a tool of DeepState.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:38 PM (G9Y8y)

So why did the FBI kill him?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

Cuz Elvis Presley told them to. Duh.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:42 PM (dGCAG)

196 "Whistleblowers have not yet emerged on this IC failure...from the lake where they are said to have drowned earlier this week."
Posted by: Axeman
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It's those damned paddle boards.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 20, 2023 03:42 PM (XeU6L)

197 Whistleblowers have not come forward to identify any specific failures in the IC's failure to anticipate Hamas' attack on Israel.

The intensive care unit tends to have that effect.

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:43 PM (krQz2)

198 And when Muslem Brotherhood pushes for Islamic Caliphate and Sharia , they mean it.
Posted by: runner at October 20, 2023 03:35 PM (V13WU)

It's a drum I keep beating but I think the muzzies have a good chance to at least partially fulfill that goal because they're willing to sacrifice for their cause while we desperately look for excuses not to defend against it.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 20, 2023 03:43 PM (BdMk6)

199 "Hey, here's another question: if you're SF undercover (SOF-D or some other flavor), why would you show up barefaced in a venue with a cameraman present?"

They're professional soldiers and even when a shambling fuckwit like Biden is POTUS, he's still POTUS and they go where they're told.

I don't know where this was held, but I do know JSOC facilities don't allow cell phones behind the wire, so I don't know how a cameraman was let within 30 feet of these guys.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 20, 2023 03:43 PM (tRd71)

200 MLK may well have been a tool of DeepState.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:38 PM (G9Y8y)

So why did the FBI kill him?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

Cuz Elvis Presley told them to. Duh.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:42 PM (dGCAG)
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Fnord up.

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:43 PM (krQz2)

201 They will "miss" the next Muslim terrorist attack here. Just as they have "missed" every single one since 9/11.

See the pattern?

You are the national security threat they are worried about ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 20, 2023 03:26 PM (TzW+Y)

Don't forget the incidents that aren't terrorism because they say so 5 minutes after they happen, despite the names of the perps and various cries of Allah Akhbar.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:44 PM (eoQWY)

202 145 >>> "the CIA ONLY works inside the US, even though they are explicitly forbitten from doing so."

Work?
They and the FIB can just make shit up like they did with Trump, right out of the gate.
If the do it to the President they probably do it to everyone. And by "it" I mean fabricate crimes to frame people for.

There is a reason 90% including Syndnee what's herbaceous (autocucumber rules) plead out. 'Cause they going to prison no matter what. Defendant knows its a total fabrication while everyone else nods sagely to the prosecutor's lies.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 20, 2023 03:24 PM (AmKdX)

Heck, the movie 'Sicario' basically showed how they do it: they pair with a domestic unit from the DOJ and do whatever they want with the partner agency signing off on it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:44 PM (xcxpd)

203 I was at the battle of Georgetown. I saw the White House burning.

Posted by: Archer at October 20, 2023 03:44 PM (gmo/4)

204 Having just gotten off 4 years of Active Duty, what usually happens in GOV:

You come up with your conclusions first then ram the intel into that conclusion with a plunger and discard any intel that does not fit the conclusion.

At least that is how I saw it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2023 03:44 PM (pVWRI)

205 Whistleblowers have not yet emerged on this IC failure...from the lake where they are said to have drowned earlier this week."
Posted by: Axeman
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It's those damned paddle boards.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 20, 2023 03:42 PM (XeU6L)
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And that bastard Johnson!

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:44 PM (krQz2)

206 It's a drum I keep beating but I think the muzzies have a good chance to at least partially fulfill that goal because they're willing to sacrifice for their cause while we desperately look for excuses not to defend against it.

===

or in a constant state of denial that it is happening

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2023 03:44 PM (V13WU)

207 >>>
So why did the FBI kill him?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo
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He was more useful as a martyr.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:44 PM (G9Y8y)

208 I don't know where this was held, but I do know JSOC facilities don't allow cell phones behind the wire, so I don't know how a cameraman was let within 30 feet of these guys.
Posted by: UGAdawg at October 20, 2023 03:43 PM (tRd71)

After that national security briefing earlier in the week, didn't we all figure out Kamala is now the official camera person?

Posted by: Nova Local at October 20, 2023 03:45 PM (exHjb)

209 195 MLK may well have been a tool of DeepState.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:38 PM (G9Y8y)

So why did the FBI kill him?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

Cuz Elvis Presley told them to. Duh.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2023 03:42 PM (dGCAG)

So it all comes back to Nixon in the end....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:45 PM (xcxpd)

210 They're professional soldiers and even when a shambling fuckwit like Biden is POTUS, he's still POTUS and they go where they're told.

Wait, what?

Posted by: Jim "Fuckthedog" Mattis at October 20, 2023 03:45 PM (Otxz7)

211 So why did the FBI kill him?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo
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Why does the Pope shit in the woods?

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:45 PM (krQz2)

212 180 MLK may well have been a tool of DeepState.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2023 03:38 PM (G9Y8y)

So why did the FBI kill him?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 20, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

Somebody checked the wrong box on the disposition form. It happens.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:45 PM (eoQWY)

213 And how did the Mossad, which used to have a higher level of competence....
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They also had High Standard Model B's, with silencers...and Moshe Dayan.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 20, 2023 03:46 PM (XeU6L)

214 NOOD.

Posted by: PabloD at October 20, 2023 03:46 PM (K1RVP)

215 And how did the Mossad, which used to have a higher level of competence....
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They were too busy deep-statin' about Bebe.

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:46 PM (krQz2)

216 Well, the events in Israel and the ongoing GOP Speaker of the House shit show has put any potential impeachment on indefinite hold, as well as derailed the corruption investigation into *biden's criminal/treason activities.

So the "failure" of the IC to see the Hamas threat isn't really all that hard to imagine.

Neither is the GOP failure theater.

Status Quo is the name of the game.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 20, 2023 03:46 PM (Q4IgG)

217 Why does the Pope shit in the woods?

Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2023 03:45 PM (krQz2)

Nah the Pope doesn't do that. He's glued himself to the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel again.

Posted by: Archer at October 20, 2023 03:47 PM (gmo/4)

218 MLK joined the Republican Party late in his life.

And I would say if everyone who opposed the Vietnam war was supposedly a communist, then I guess I'm a communist. Retroactively, I guess.
Posted by: BurtTC

He was always a registered Republican, because where he was raised, the Democrats would not register him, his father or his relatives, to vote.
One of those little foot notes in history that people routinely ignore and pretend did not happen.

Posted by: A face in the crowd...... at October 20, 2023 03:48 PM (vcOmj)

219 Dems nominate Jeffries on third vote! gushes MSNBC - who are basically the house organ for the DNC: https://tinyurl.com/34r338eu

Yeah, while this article is a complete blow job for Jeffries, there is no hope of him getting the job, which MSNBC has to tearfully sort of admit at one point - but still - Jeffries ya'll!

Posted by: Boswell at October 20, 2023 03:48 PM (K+UlC)

220 Willowed from the end of the post about 300 sex partners, and in Reference to Joe Mannix posting a boobette:

before the pious harangue.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 20, 2023 02:56 PM (BdMk6

In after the erroneous insult. There is nothing pious about saying " This fully dressed young woman thinks she doesn't need to strip to Magic underwear to have a conservative opinion" Perhaps you don't know the definition of pious because I have mentioned nothing "devoutly religious" or lack thereof about either modestly dressed young women or boobettes, but thanks for your interest.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2023 03:48 PM (RSbhh)

221 Having just gotten off 4 years of Active Duty, what usually happens in GOV:

You come up with your conclusions first then ram the intel into that conclusion with a plunger and discard any intel that does not fit the conclusion.

At least that is how I saw it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 20, 2023 03:44 PM (pVWRI)

Battle after battle has been lost because the other side did something unexpected. Others have been lost when an attack pretty much everyone knows will fail isn't called off because, well, that's embarrassing.

And this is by the ones that might pay a personal lethal cost because they are on the scene. Up the chain of command and in civilian INT agencies there isn't even that incentive to get it right.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:51 PM (eoQWY)

222 Hey, here's another question: if you're SF undercover (SOF-D or some other flavor), why would you show up barefaced in a venue with a cameraman present?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Because those E-7s weren't trained or brought up by paranoid as fuck Cold Warriors. They didn't station a rando SOF troop to surveillance the presss and secure all of their material for sanitization before the press were allowed to leave the building. I was never SOF or any type, but i had SOF and LRRP E-7s as mentors when I was a junior NCO. It's how those crazy bastards operate and that shit rubs off easily for basic opsec and situation awareness. They. Were. Not. Trained. To. Be. Paranoid.

On purpose.

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 20, 2023 03:52 PM (3CCua)

223 MLK stating his denial of the divinity of Jesus was from a published interview, not from spooks.

As for the rapine, well, IIRC the streets talked about that, so to speak.

Posted by: logprof at October 20, 2023 03:54 PM (j6yHt)

224 "OK, uh, what were OUR Spec Ops guys doing in Israel?"

Americans are among the hostages. No way our guys are sitting this one out.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 20, 2023 03:57 PM (tRd71)

225 Collection Management is, in my opinion, the most difficult job for an Intelligence person. CM drives Tasking assets and Reporting collected information and it is all based on the requirements levied by the leadership. This is true for the battlefield commander all the way up to those inside the Beltway.
If no one is told to look at Hamas...no one will. That said, there is always general collection going on...looking for things of interest. I suspect Hamas generated many "collectibles" in their prep for the attack. I suspect much of it was noted, and reported, but at some level, ignored.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2023 04:00 PM (uSHSS)

226 The intel failure just might have been caused by the fact that Biden's head of intelligence programs, is Maher Bitar.

"He is solely responsible for prioritizing what collection efforts on intelligence are tier one, two, three and four for President Biden. Why is this guy’s name important? Well, one, he used to work for Samantha Powers, but let’s put that aside in the United Nations. Two, we just found a photo of Maher Battar recently wearing Palestinian garb, raising a hand behind a picture that said, we want Jewish apartheid. This is the guy in charge of intelligence operations for the United States of America."

Nah, couldn't be.

Posted by: Gosport at October 20, 2023 04:05 PM (ZORrM)

227 Well, at least we know that guy running the Iranian spy ring is executed or imprisoned already!!!!

Wait, he's not?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2023 04:08 PM (Angsy)

228 Where is Larry Hobson when we need him?
These Stiffly Stiffersons sure could use a good pranking. Whammy Blammy, Wowie Zowie!
https://tinyurl.com/mryt4548

Posted by: Denny Crane! at October 20, 2023 04:19 PM (WAlRb)

229 You have to be nuts to think that there was a plan here. Both Israel and the US look feeble and incompetent as a result of the casualties and the lack of response.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 20, 2023 03:23 PM (eoQWY)

If you are an enemy of both US and Israel (which the IC clearly is) this is a good thing.

Posted by: Montec at October 20, 2023 04:39 PM (bWsRe)

230 He had a thing for white women, too. Just ask RFK Jr about his dad's surveillance of MLK.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 20, 2023 03:21 PM (XetL6)

Where da white women at??

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at October 20, 2023 05:04 PM (h4nev)

231 Why do you assume this was a mistake and unintentional?

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