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Victor Davis Hanson on Next Steps

Victor Davis Hanson, cruelly:


Victor Davis Hanson
@VDHanson

They Kill, While Our Government Tweets and Deletes....

If wild reports are true that the inhuman Hamas will execute dozens of civilian hostages, and if it is further accurate that there are rumored Americans among them--and if Americans then are to be executed by Hamas--aside from a military response, the United States will have to change radically its policies in the Middle East.

In the last 32 months they have been proven utterly disastrous. Hamas has gone full ISIS, and is now in addition reportedly beheading captured Israeli soldiers.

Note that the Mahmoud Abbas, "president" for life of the PNA, and a recipient of U.S. aid, has been cheering on Hamas.

So of course have the usual suspects, such as the hard Western Left, the Ivy-League pampered student crowd, the Squad constituencies, the Taliban, Qatar, especially Iran, the parent of the current mass killing, and even Turkey.

Is it the mass mutilations, the rapes, the desecrations of corpses, the beheadings, the murdering of women, the elderly, and children, that so excites them all--as if they were gleefully watching sacrificial victims marched up to the top of an Aztec temple in ancient Tenochtitlán?

Or rather is their frenzy due to unspoken terror that Hamas at last has gone too far in its premodern savagery? There are now no more of its patrons with the power to call off the IDF. And so they may finally get the existential war that Hamas always for decades had bragged about and begged for.

And the proper response to all this here in the U.S.?

All monies to the West Bank and Gaza should be immediately cut off. The Iran transfers, if our State Department's pleas are correct that they are not yet finalized, should be stopped immediately.

Sanctions and embargos should be placed on all Iranian exports. The alternative would be to keep subsidizing those who provide the wherewithal for murderers, rapists and precivilizational mutilators.

If it is true that Hamas killer-masterminds have been residing in Qatar, and, as often has been alleged, enjoying Qatar as a financial clearing-house for terrorist operations, and given Qatar has been blaming Israel for its own murdered, then why do we persist in basing the United States Central Command (USCC) and United State Air Force Central Command (USAFCC) at Qatar government facilities?

There are, of course, realist arguments for our relationship with Qatar. But the world in the Middle East has now irrevocably changed and we need to make the necessary adjustments and separate from this de facto Al Jazeerist enemy.

Expect some terrorists to attempt to join the swarm at our open border. And soon "refugees" from Gaza and the West Bank will be likely demanding asylum here in the Great Satan.

In reaction, we should not only bar all travel from Palestinian territories into the US, as well as from Iran and Qatar, but yank all visas of any of those nationals who currently reside in the U.S. and send them home to enjoy the advantages now offered on nightly video displays in their own native countries.

The national security team of this administration--gifts from the failed Obama administration that is responsible for much of the current Middle East mess-- remains confused and inept.

And that's a charitable assessment. It of course starts at the top. Joe Biden is neither physically nor cognitively up to the task of Commander in Chief in a crisis. He has more or less disappeared other than offering an occasionally brief appearance where he mumbles about standing with Israel and then vanishes again.

Secretary of State Anthony Blinken recently deleted a tweet calling for an immediate cease-fire--music to the ears of Hamas and Iran.

Why? Does he believe it is moral to allow Hamas to murder 900 Jews, beat their chests about such savagery, and then head home with human trophies to be tortured and executed without a response?

Blinken noted that he and the Turkish foreign minister had talks that led to such an absurd statement.

And what about Turkey, the erstwhile Obama key to the Middle East?

Its intrusive armed drone was shot down recently in Syria by the US Air Force and remains an unapologetic pro-Hamas partisan.

And whether long-term it [the Islamist state of Turkey] can remain in NATO--long opposing Sweden's entry, chronic overflights of the Greek islands in the Aegean, supplier of weapons to Russia, threatening to send missiles into Athens, a security risk anytime it receives US weapons--is a real concern, given it has the largest, non-US army in NATO and hosts a nuclear-armed U.S. base.

Blinken also blasted critics who deplored his outreach to Iran, disparaging them as misinforming and misinformed.

He is petulant because he knows that the Iranian expectation of an upcoming $6 billion US-driven cash transfer (another sick idea to buy back hostages from a murderous Tehran) gives them in the here and now fungible opportunities to send more cash and arms into the hands of anti-Israeli terrorists.

As far as Iran's role in the Hamas orgy of killing, Blinken also declared that there is no evidence of "anything that shows us that Iran was directly involved in this attack, in planning it or in carrying it out."

No one but you, Secretary Blinken, believes that.

When one remembers Blinken's Palestinian Affairs office in the State Department and its even worse ceasefire tweet, which, like Blinken's, disappeared without comment, the appointment of the Iranian megaphone Robert Malley (currently under investigation by the FBI) as our point man on the bankrupt Iran Deal, and Blinken's recent brag about all the hundreds of millions of dollars we have sent to the Palestinians, the picture is one of partisan incompetence.

That pattern goes all the way back to the 2021 Chinese humiliation in Anchorage of both Blinken and Jake Sullivan.

Or perhaps both were suspect even earlier when we recall it was campaign honcho Blinken who on the eve of the 2020 election apparently thought up the nasty idea of calling on ex-interim CIA director Mike Morell to round up 51 intelligence "authorities" to lie to the American people that the Hunter Biden laptop under FBI wraps was somehow a product of "Russian disinformation" and not authentic (a claim even Hunter Biden could not make).

That gambit was designed to fuel Biden in the upcoming debate and indeed warp the election itself. And it did.

National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan has a similar politicized record, as one of the principles seeding the 2016 Clinton-campaign lie that a mythical Trump server was communicating with the Russians and thus proof of "Russian collusion".

Sullivan, remember, just a week before the Hamas slaughter assured us that "The Middle East region is quieter today than it has been in two decades."

So Hamas kills, while we tweet and delete....

By the way, I saw the headlines but never posted about Robert Malley. I will be correcting that today. The US government has had, thanks to Obama/Biden, an Iranian spy and agent of influence directing our Iran policy. And I don't mean Obama, though that would be accurate enough.

J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling

Now let the snivelling apologists for rape, murder and torture explain how this, too, was justified.

Oh, they will:

They really will: 36 Harvard "student" groups declared their solidarity with terrorists. A professor at Harvard had to call out his own students for their psychopathy.

At the pro-terrorism rally at Harvard:

Kassy Dillon
@KassyDillon

I went to the "Palestinian Resistance" protest near Harvard today. Here is what you need to know.

1. The flyer declared "victory is ours."
2. Chants called for the destruction of Israel
3. Protestors called the Israeli's across the street "nazis"
4. Hundreds of people showed up
5. Things got intense with the Israeli side.
6. Police did a great job at keeping the two groups separate.
7. Many chants accusing Israel of white supremacy

Reporting coming on Fox News.

Her report is here.

It's time to deploy the left's cancellation and doxing tactics. Everyone signing statements like these should have their names recorded, publicized, and sent to all employers. And we should demand the employers agree to never hire them.

Or else the employer goes on a list.

This is Their Rules. If you as an employer can mandate fake pronouns, you damn well can also mandate that new hires not support terrorism.

Let's call it The Sunlight Project. Because we need some sunlight to kill the disease running through our country.

By the way: Hey FBI, I bet you're not opening special investigatory files on people on the left explicitly supporting foreign terrorism, huh? No, that's vital first amendment activity which must be protected!

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:58 PM




Comments

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1 Be safe, Victor.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 10, 2023 01:00 PM (MeG8a)

2 It all makes sense.

Therefore it will NEVER HAPPEN.

Posted by: rd at October 10, 2023 01:01 PM (CmwDp)

3 I'll call the others.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 10, 2023 01:01 PM (vGg/o)

4 Maybe, like, the US government could buy a bunch of Bud Light and ship it to the poor Palestinians in need. Prop up a noble, progressive US company, support innocent victims of apartheid, and start the gradual introduction of queer-friendly ideas into the Muslim world. It's a guaranteed winner!

Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at October 10, 2023 01:03 PM (JCZqz)

5 Repeat of my JK Rowling comment, since it's on topic:

She just needs to think of them as white Britons, then JK Rowling will be on board.

I kind of despise that woman. She attached herself to the political alignment that wants to erase her completely, from her sex to her skin, and she will not leave, just staying on the inside, begging them to remember their shared love of centralized control and unlimited immigration to permanently change Britain, and then whining when they don't love her back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:03 PM (LvTSG)

6 Islam must be eradicated.

Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:04 PM (sm6Pk)

7 So Hamas kills, while we tweet and delete....
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Indeed. The only upside - if there is one - is that they still feel compelled to delete.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:04 PM (t0OGg)

8 If wild reports are true that the inhuman Hamas will execute dozens of civilian hostages, and if it is further accurate that there are rumored Americans among them--and if Americans then are to be executed by Hamas

Remember Russia is our enemy because they won't allow gay adoption BUT the Palis are our friends and sometimes friends have...issues between them

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2023 01:04 PM (XqcwY)

9 That VDH post is quite good (I read it earlier) and a prime example of what the long-form capacity on The Platform Formerly Known as Twitter is good for.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:05 PM (t0OGg)

10 Willowed but I see Ace has covered so,e of it

For those doubters, the beheading of babies have been confirmed by French journalists who actually saw the scene and the bodies.
Besides, most of the early video was taken by the terrorists themselves. They are proud of what they are doing.
So far I have seen postings from Harvard, Swarthmore, UVA saying this is right and good: kill the Jews.
People in front of the Sydney Oprea House chanting Gas the Jews.
This is not about Palestine or land or anything other than Kill the Jews.
They just have permission to say it out loud now.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 10, 2023 01:05 PM (t/2Uw)

11 By the way: Hey FBI, I bet you're not opening special investigatory files on people on the left explicitly supporting foreign terrorism, huh? No, that's vital first amendment activity which must be protected!

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The legacy of the Hollywood Blacklist is that going after people who explicitly support violent overthrow of the American government is anti-American.

I don't see how this should deviate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:05 PM (LvTSG)

12 In reaction, we should not only bar all travel from Palestinian territories into the US, as well as from Iran and Qatar, but yank all visas of any of those nationals who currently reside in the U.S. and send them home to enjoy the advantages now offered on nightly video displays in their own native countries.
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Why, that would be racist and xenophobic - especially if it also extended to various other states like Iran and Qatar!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:05 PM (t0OGg)

13 Some people did something. Move on.

Posted by: Ilhan Omar at October 10, 2023 01:05 PM (AD14M)

14 I went to the "Palestinian Resistance" protest near Harvard today. Here is what you need to know.

One of the odder things about this current historical moment is that secular Jews in the west generally support the Arabs against their brethren in their homeland. But...those same Arabs do not care if you are religiously observant or not.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2023 01:06 PM (XqcwY)

15 Didn't Biden allow 70k inverted Afghan in?

Soon?

Posted by: Mushroom Stamp at October 10, 2023 01:06 PM (VpCCm)

16 I should probably give Clash of Civilizations a read some day.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:06 PM (eYoxG)

17 Oh yeah right our failed leadership is every bit as capable of taking steps as the 80 year old dementia patient who represents it.

Guys? I'm tapped out. I can't fund any more stuff.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 01:06 PM (NfF+F)

18 Ha.

Unvetted.

Posted by: Mushroom Stamp at October 10, 2023 01:06 PM (VpCCm)

19 Students for Justice in Palestine at @swarthmore "honors the martyrs" and calls for more indiscriminate killings of Jews. According to them, Nazi-like murders are justified by the existence of the Jewish people.
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Swarthmore was once, at least, a name. Now it is nothing. This is utterly unsurprising, as is the stance of those dozens of Harvard "organizations."

This is American academia.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:06 PM (t0OGg)

20 Indeed. The only upside - if there is one - is that they still feel compelled to delete.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:04 PM (t0OGg)

Won't really do any good.

Posted by: The Forever Internet at October 10, 2023 01:07 PM (Angsy)

21 Hey FBI, I bet you're not opening special investigatory files on people on the left explicitly supporting foreign terrorism, huh? No, that's vital first amendment activity which must be protected!

This is probably true, and its terrible.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:08 PM (dWjpk)

22 20 Indeed. The only upside - if there is one - is that they still feel compelled to delete.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:04 PM (t0OGg)

Won't really do any good.
Posted by: The Forever Internet at October 10, 2023 01:07 PM

Doesn't need to.

Posted by: Massive Blue Metro Vote Counters at October 10, 2023 01:08 PM (JCZqz)

23 This is why you can't have abortion on demand, legalized suicide assistance. If human life isn't sacred then what's to stop nihilistic monsters from murder fests like this? They have now fear of the afterlife, they think this warrants a reward. This is also why there must be war crimes, and death penalty for violations of same. The only limit they remotely fear is an unclean death. This is the ugly truth.

Posted by: Simplemind. at October 10, 2023 01:08 PM (FB14j)

24 14 One of the odder things about this current historical moment is that secular Jews in the west generally support the Arabs against their brethren in their homeland. But...those same Arabs do not care if you are religiously observant or not.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2023 01:06 PM (XqcwY)

I'd wager many of them would say that they fear Christianity more than they fear Islam.

Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (sm6Pk)

25 I should probably give Clash of Civilizations a read some day.

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Well written, compelling, and worth the read.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (sX1BW)

26 Any Jew that still votes democratic is not only a Judenrat but deserves to be horse whipped

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (pVWRI)

27 Too bad VDH is not in charge of policy.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (2PbwJ)

28 @KassyDillon
I went to the "Palestinian Resistance" protest near Harvard today. Here is what you need to know.

1. The flyer declared "victory is ours."
2. Chants called for the destruction of Israel
3. Protestors called the Israeli's across the street "nazis"
4. Hundreds of people showed up
5. Things got intense with the Israeli side.
6. Police did a great job at keeping the two groups separate.
7. Many chants accusing Israel of white supremacy ...

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I wonder what that looked like, but I do have a guess based on my experience during the anti-lockdown protests I attended back in 2020.

There were Antifa counter-protests across a wide boulevard, and a line of cops between the two sides. 100% of the cops in that line were facing the Antifa side. They had their backs to us and there were maybe a half-dozen cops among those on our side of the demonstration. Virtually all of their focus was on the other side of the street.

I'll bet it's the same in this incident: all of the attention was on the pro-Palestine side, with their backs to the Israelis. They know where the risks are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (t0OGg)

29 24 I'd wager many of them would say that they fear Christianity more than they fear Islam.
Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (sm6Pk)

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Well, yeah. Hitler was Catholic, you know. Observant and everything!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

30 21 Hey FBI, I bet you're not opening special investigatory files on people on the left explicitly supporting foreign terrorism, huh? No, that's vital first amendment activity which must be protected!

This is probably true, and its terrible.
Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:08 PM

You'll be happy to hear that WE have extensive files on these heroes, and are actively recruiting them as we speak!

Posted by: CIA and State Department at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (JCZqz)

31 Let's call it The Sunlight Project. Because we need some sunlight to kill the disease running through our country.
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Sounds good to me.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:10 PM (t0OGg)

32 t's time to deploy the left's cancellation and doxing tactics. Everyone signing statements like these should have their names recorded, publicized, and sent to all employers. And we should demand the employers agree to never hire them.

Or else the employer goes on a list.

475 of Fortune 500 Companies would promote them.

Posted by: Montec at October 10, 2023 01:10 PM (wP/BU)

33 23 The only limit they remotely fear is an unclean death. This is the ugly truth.
Posted by: Simplemind. at October 10, 2023 01:08 PM (FB14j)

This, too, is the story of wealthy leftists.

Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:10 PM (sm6Pk)

34 Hey, we have important investigations to investigate... like those Extremist MAGA republicans. I mean, talk about a threat. Besides, the Islamic terrorists are all on the other side of the planet. Take our word for it, our top men are all over it.

Posted by: The FBI at October 10, 2023 01:10 PM (AD14M)

35 Swarthmore ...

am speechless

it's heavily Jewish!

why why why

do they think identifying with the antagonists here somehow protects them, or makes what happened disappear?!?!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2023 01:10 PM (AcWfM)

36 Islam.

Come for the Dark Ages.

Stay because we will kill you if you don't.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 10, 2023 01:10 PM (lf83v)

37 By the way: Hey FBI, I bet you're not opening special investigatory files on people on the left explicitly supporting foreign terrorism, huh? No, that's vital first amendment activity which must be protected!
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Of course they're not. They have already identified the *real* threat, and it's conservatives.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:10 PM (t0OGg)

38 VDH, "In the last 32 months they have been proven utterly disastrous. Hamas has gone full ISIS, and is now in addition reportedly beheading captured Israeli soldiers."

How many 'former' ISIS are with Hamas?

Posted by: davidt at October 10, 2023 01:11 PM (SYTee)

39 I think the Malley info release pushed the timeline for this attack up, tbh

I think that Hamas had inside info, from our own IC

that's what I think. we'll never know if I'm right, probably, but maybe Mossad will get the truth out

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2023 01:11 PM (AcWfM)

40 The US govt is literally funding terrorism while condemning it, half the shit we lost in Afghanistan went right into their hands, and then they spend the bulk of their time investigating parents who get all shouty at school board meetings over mentally ill men raping girls in bathrooms

we are a stupid, stupid people

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Dreaming of Lauren Boebert's Sweater Puppies at October 10, 2023 01:11 PM (VTu1l)

41 I think the regime is relieved at least it doesn't have to talk about the economy or border for a few days. They just need some way to blame the terrorist attack on Trump and all will be good.

Posted by: Ripley at October 10, 2023 01:11 PM (JojsZ)

42 This 36 groups at Harvard thing. Harvard isn't that big. Some 6000 undergrads. I can't imagine that the number of Premed Bangladeshis or whatever is that big. I suspect a lot of overlap in the membership of the 36 groups. I suspect that some of them simply do not exist.

Its just more propaganda. Thing is, it works. Ooh, look, smart people at Harvard have this thing to say.

Its all an op.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:12 PM (dWjpk)

43 Need any DB devs for the Sunlight Project?

Posted by: weew at October 10, 2023 01:12 PM (EaEMG)

44 That video was a waste of electrons. It showed next to nothing outside chickie walking and talking.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 10, 2023 01:12 PM (pohLc)

45 Do. Not. Care.

Until we take care of our own borders and territory, let them all murder each other.

Not one iota of sympathy from me, and no support for our involvement.

Posted by: unknown at October 10, 2023 01:12 PM (5LVU1)

46 The US govt is literally funding terrorism while condemning it, half the shit we lost in Afghanistan went right into their hands, and then they spend the bulk of their time investigating parents who get all shouty at school board meetings over mentally ill men raping girls in bathrooms

we are a stupid, stupid people
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Dreaming of Lauren Boebert's Sweater Puppies at October 10, 2023 01:11 PM (VTu1l)
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I don't think stupidity adequately explains.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:12 PM (t0OGg)

47 8...Remember Russia is our enemy because they won't allow gay adoption BUT the Palis are our friends and sometimes friends have...issues between them
Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2023 01:04 PM (XqcwY)

^^^this.
Don't forget, Blinken is "deeply saddened" that Biden's money is used this way. Not that the atrocities are happening, but the$$$...
Putz

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 10, 2023 01:12 PM (2PbwJ)

48 26 Any Jew that still votes democratic is not only a Judenrat but deserves to be horse whipped
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (pVWRI)


I asked why do Jews continue to vote 80% Dem when the Dem party is openly and loudly n he side of people who want them dead. And the replies I’ve got have been along the lines of shut up H8er!!

Glad you get it.

Posted by: Montec at October 10, 2023 01:13 PM (wP/BU)

49 The way the whole Robert Malley debacle is being covered up by the mainstream press is just wild; the old chestnut about 'what if it happened with Trump' is overused, but there's a reason for that. It's because it happens ALL THE F'NG TIME.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at October 10, 2023 01:13 PM (a9CYf)

50 35 do they think identifying with the antagonists here somehow protects them, or makes what happened disappear?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2023 01:10 PM (AcWfM)

It's a college, so likely heavily Queer.

They think siding with Islam will make Mean Old Christianity go away.

Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:13 PM (sm6Pk)

51 Someone posted "Bill Clinton's" comment at the end of the last post. I put it in scare quotes, because one never knows if the actual person used those actual words.

It does contain mushy emotes though, so it kinda sounds like him. Otherwise though, what I'm looking for is the distance between Team Clinton and Team Obama.

Who is saying what. Where there ARE differences, that's where you can look for the advantages they hope to get with their various factions within the party.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:13 PM (dGCAG)

52 Until we take care of our own borders and territory, let them all murder each other.
______________

You're right.

And how many Hamas/IRGC soldiers have entered through the Southern Border?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 10, 2023 01:13 PM (lf83v)

53 My FBI file,
He drives golf carts and he has a pistol.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 10, 2023 01:14 PM (yG575)

54 Antifa should be classified as a terrorist organization - DJT

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2023 01:14 PM (l10hq)

55 I asked why do Jews continue to vote 80% Dem
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They will sell them the rope that the terrorists will hang them with.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 10, 2023 01:15 PM (lf83v)

56 Cornell and Harvard issued milquetoast statements. No mention of terrorism or the slaughter of innocents, no condemnation of the nihilists. Only offers of counseling to "anyone affected".

If important institutions are unwilling to make straightforward moral statements their leaders should all be immediately replaced. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 10, 2023 01:15 PM (GvWUY)

57 Yeah, that was one hell of a read.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:15 PM (krQz2)

58 The way the whole Robert Malley debacle is being covered up by the mainstream press is just wild; the old chestnut about 'what if it happened with Trump' is overused, but there's a reason for that. It's because it happens ALL THE F'NG TIME.
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at October 10, 2023 01:13 PM (a9CYf)

In another universe, this is the kind of thing that would bring down an administration. Blinkin would be the first to go, he's the one who went out there and lied on Sunday.

But a President could and SHOULD be impeached and convicted for this sort of thing. As we know though, the list of Biden's crimes is long, and it appears doubtful any of them are being seriously pursued.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:15 PM (dGCAG)

59 This 36 groups at Harvard thing. Harvard isn't that big. Some 6000 undergrads. I can't imagine that the number of Premed Bangladeshis or whatever is that big. I suspect a lot of overlap in the membership of the 36 groups. I suspect that some of them simply do not exist.

Its just more propaganda. Thing is, it works. Ooh, look, smart people at Harvard have this thing to say.

Its all an op.
Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:12 PM (dWjpk)

If the Admin at harvard and other so called institution do not take action, expel people, throw out groups, and make definitive statements then they are 100% complicit and 100% responsible!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:16 PM (pVWRI)

60 58 In another universe, this is the kind of thing that would bring down an administration. Blinkin would be the first to go, he's the one who went out there and lied on Sunday.

But a President could and SHOULD be impeached and convicted for this sort of thing. As we know though, the list of Biden's crimes is long, and it appears doubtful any of them are being seriously pursued.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:15 PM (dGCAG)

========

"I was about to take down the Biden presidency, but Gaetz ruined it!"
-McCarthy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:16 PM (LvTSG)

61 I think we're also seeing what libs spending decades reprogramming themselves with reflexive taboos can do.

They've functionally disabled themselves.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (krQz2)

62 >>>54 Antifa should be classified as a terrorist organization - DJT
Posted by: Maj. Healey

wow another Strong Statement. Please keep us all posted on the clippings from Trump Tiger Beat.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (KRtlO)

63 54 Antifa should be classified as a terrorist organization - DJT
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2023 01:14 PM (l10hq)

Stupid MAGA!! Antifa is an idea not a group.
- msm

Posted by: Montec at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (wP/BU)

64 I missed commenting on the last thread, so here goes. Even if those babies weren't beheaded they were murdered in their cribs. The families in Kfar Aza were murdered. They weren't IDF, they were civilians. I don't give a rat's ass how they died, they were murdered in cold blood. How it was done means nothing, they were murdered.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (2NHgQ)

65 Congressional Democrats are fearful that their caucus could soon turn on Israel following the initial outpouring of support after Saturday’s Hamas terrorist attacks, Politico reported Tuesday.


Posted by: Mushroom Stamp at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (VpCCm)

66 Not one iota of sympathy from me

Fuck you.

We can all agree to disagree on whether we should spend US blood and treasure in Israel or the Middle East generally. But if these Hamas atrocities elicit zero sympathy from you, you're a monster and should be shunned.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (0N1h0)

67 Cornell and Harvard issued milquetoast statements. No mention of terrorism or the slaughter of innocents, no condemnation of the nihilists. Only offers of counseling to "anyone affected".

If important institutions are unwilling to make straightforward moral statements their leaders should all be immediately replaced. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 10, 2023 01:15 PM (GvWUY)
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The leaders of those institutions are in one of two positions:
1. They agree with the position taken by the activists
2. They are terrified of the activists and won't cross them because it would cause massive demonstrations, violence and destruction of property.

They're either aligned or cowed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (t0OGg)

68 they're going to execute prisoners on live TV, but how can we make this all about the only thing that matters, God-Lord Trump?

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (KRtlO)

69 61 I think we're also seeing what libs spending decades reprogramming themselves with reflexive taboos can do.

They've functionally disabled themselves.
Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (krQz2)

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"Listen, all of the promises of communism have been proven false, but we're going to keep pushing the ideology anyway."

"Well, that doesn't make any sense."

"Brilliant! We'll make it make no sense!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (LvTSG)

70 You want to know my favorite part of this whole thing is? It is that there are multiple elected Republicans who are going on FoxNews saying that what happened in Israel shows the folly of firing a Speaker of the House.

My first response is "are you serious?" but the answer quite obviously no.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (dWjpk)

71 I sure wish I knew what Malley was finally fired for. It must be big--he was the favorite of Obama I and II for a long time, and now he's off without pay.

I wonder if it had something to do with the latest Hamas war.

Posted by: PJ at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (G1dq6)

72 Somewhere. Everyday in America, a parent speaks up at a school board meeting. There are people with red hats. There are people speaking about vaccines. These are truly the threats we face and must focus on as a nation.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (5RO7A)

73 I was away-

this news about beheaded babies- is this for real?

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (geLO8)

74 So Matt Gaetz is to blame for all of this? Good to know.

Posted by: Montec at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (wP/BU)

75 Any Jew that still votes democratic is not only a Judenrat but deserves to be horse whipped
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM (pVWRI)


I asked why do Jews continue to vote 80% Dem when the Dem party is openly and loudly n he side of people who want them dead. And the replies I’ve got have been along the lines of shut up H8er!!

Glad you get it.
Posted by: Montec at October 10, 2023 01:13 PM (wP/BU)


Montec, this is BS, and you know it. It has been explained many times and you keep asking. again today. every day. go back and read JJ and CD, and what other commenters said.

NGU, the Republican pro Israel policy developed only after 9/11. Before that , it was pro-arab, pro oil, and pro Military /Industrial complex, with constant , unyielding pressure on Israel to give up land for "peace" (LOL!). Democrats shift to anti-Israeli policy happened in the last 20 years, alongside Rs shift toward Israel.

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (V13WU)

76 I'm uncertain why anyone is surprised by the barbarity. These are the same people who were decapitating people in Iraq 20 years ago. They perpetrated unspeakable evil against children including cutting their throats and throwing them in the trash for talking to coalition troops. I remember when liberals tried to tell us the scenes in American Sniper were sensationalized and fiction. Welp, sorry that might not sit well with your "Palestinian" lapel pin and your Twitter flag, but that's who these people are.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (oUoKb)

77 It's endless comfort knowing this is all Trump's fault.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (krQz2)

78 73 I was away-

this news about beheaded babies- is this for real?
Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (geLO

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Seems likely. French reporters are saying they've seen the evidence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (LvTSG)

79 68 they're going to execute prisoners on live TV, but how can we make this all about the only thing that matters, God-Lord Trump?
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (KRtlO)


Oh great. And now you are on about this.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (dWjpk)

80 Usual public service announcement: If you don't recognize the nic, there's some chance it's a troll or someone sent by some faction to muddy up the comments section here.

Proceed with caution.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (dGCAG)

81 68 they're going to execute prisoners on live TV, but how can we make this all about the only thing that matters, God-Lord Trump?
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (KRtlO)

Well everything is Orangemanbad's fault after all.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (eYoxG)

82 The Middle East is in dire need of experts in ventilation.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 10, 2023 01:20 PM (wtvvX)

83 50...It's a college, so likely heavily Queer.

They think siding with Islam will make Mean Old Christianity go away.
Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:13 PM (sm6Pk)

Because the muzzles are SO tolerant of sexual deviants!

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 10, 2023 01:20 PM (2PbwJ)

84 NGU, the Republican pro Israel policy developed only after 9/11. Before that , it was pro-arab, pro oil, and pro Military /Industrial complex, with constant , unyielding pressure on Israel to give up land for "peace" (LOL!). Democrats shift to anti-Israeli policy happened in the last 20 years, alongside Rs shift toward Israel.
Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (V13WU)


Zombie Richard Nixon would like a word.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:20 PM (dWjpk)

85 69 "Listen, all of the promises of communism have been proven false, but we're going to keep pushing the ideology anyway."

"Well, that doesn't make any sense."

"Brilliant! We'll make it make no sense!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (LvTSG)

"It'll be DIFFERENT when I'm in charge!!!"

(Note : This is also why Rowling keeps whining. Because they'll never let her be in charge.)

Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:20 PM (sm6Pk)

86 The first Republican to really address Israel's security needs was George W. Bush. Before that it was arabs first and foremost.

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:20 PM (V13WU)

87 80 Usual public service announcement: If you don't recognize the nic, there's some chance it's a troll or someone sent by some faction to muddy up the comments section here.

Proceed with caution.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (dGCAG)

Yep.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (wtvvX)

88 >>I asked why do Jews continue to vote 80% Dem

Look up the numbers on (secular) Jews and Higher Ed.


There is your answer.

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (EbesW)

89 Nobody needs to go to war over this just build some walls nobody goes in or out - ever

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (RjBju)

90 Semi related and a little brighter news. I saw a video about composer John Williams. Spielberg wanted him to score Schindler's List but he was reluctant to do so because he didn't think he was a good enough composer for such an important and sensitive a subject. I think the theme is one of the most beautiful and tragic pieces in all music.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (FVME7)

91 It's also time for every alum of every college to see what Pali support is permitted there and then to cancel all donations, all football tickets, everything.

Posted by: PJ at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (G1dq6)

92 52...And how many Hamas/IRGC soldiers have entered through the Southern Border?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 10, 2023 01:13 PM (lf83v)

Lots

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (2PbwJ)

93 Zombie Richard Nixon would like a word.
Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:20 PM (dWjpk)

you mean that land for peace resolution in the UN ? Great job.

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (V13WU)

94 They Kill, While Our Government Tweets and Deletes....

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#BringBackOurGirlsHeads

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (HeECw)

95 they're going to execute prisoners on live TV, but how can we make this all about the only thing that matters, God-Lord Trump?
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (KRtlO)

Fine, I'll take the bait: If Trump was President right now, this would not be happening.

There. Done. Feel better?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (dGCAG)

96 Not cruel enough.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (RIvkX)

97 86 The first Republican to really address Israel's security needs was George W. Bush. Before that it was arabs first and foremost.
Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:20 PM (V13WU)


Wow. This is really ahistorical.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (dWjpk)

98 Most of the Russian telegram channels have been aflood with joo-haters cheering on Hamas since the attacks hit the news wires, even to the point of supplanting news of operations in Ukraine. I suspect many of them have been lurking a long time just to support anyone opposing US interests (Russia), but it's disgusting nonetheless, and their mods allow it to stand.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (pIx7m)

99 My advice to every true American: Buy a reliable pistol and carry it everywhere. This country is ripe for an attack identical to what's happened in Israel.

Do not doubt this.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (BdMk6)

100 Yeah the whole we support lgbtqxyzabcxyz123 and we also support Hamas is one of the weirdest coalitions out there. I guess as long as it opposes straight white men it’s all good.

Posted by: Montec at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (wP/BU)

101 "the United States will have to change radically its policies in the Middle East."

LOLOLOLOL. Hamas could nuke Tel Aviv and NYC and post videos of them eating screaming Jewish babies alive, and the USA would continue to do nothing. Not a fucking thing. Maybe fire off some letters?

Seriously: I often ask myself "what would our enemies actually have to do to get us to wake from Unicorn Dreamland and finally take this war seriously?" I have yet to come up with any answer.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (iFTx/)

102 The only limit they remotely fear is an unclean death. This is the ugly truth.
Posted by: Simplemind

This ^^^^ is why I took a thin coat of bacon grease and wiped down all of my hydra-shock rounds in both of my EDC weapons. Feral animal wanna FA, feral animal gonna FO and go to his he'll.

I don't GAF about racial bigotry, i do GAF about deterrence and will to survive.

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (3CCua)

103 #66, no, fuck YOU. I am not going to ride the sympathy train anymore, expected to express emotions as I am fed a steady diet of outrage porn. You enjoy being unable to control yourself, I am getting off the ride until it matter again.

Posted by: unknown at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (5LVU1)

104 NBC: Sen. Tommy Tuberville won't lift his military blockade amid Israel-Hamas conflict. A deplorable Dereliction of Duty. And there's appointment of the Ambassador to Israel, which some have said was blocked by Rand Paul!

He's a traitorous shite & charges should be sought. How long will we be held hostage by the GOP?

As long as our justice department fails to act to protect us all.

As we face wwiii, tubby wants to make sure putin has a better chance of winning. tubby would rather see any other country prevail except the country that gave him a successful life. How can people betray their own country?

I think MAGA has dictated to him to hold fast no matter what happens. WW3 could break out and he'd still not budge. All to own the libs. Thats enough of a reason.

Can someone tell me why Schumer or the Democrats can't stop this bullshit? I understand the senate has their quirky rules, but enough is enough!

The AF should strafe his house. Might wake his dumb pea size brain up. Most are too scared of tRaitor tRump, or they're traitors who love/defend him. or, they're on Putin's side.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (JCZqz)

105 95 they're going to execute prisoners on live TV, but how can we make this all about the only thing that matters, God-Lord Trump?
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:18 PM (KRtlO)

Fine, I'll take the bait: If Trump was President right now, this would not be happening.

There. Done. Feel better?
Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (dGCAG)

The funny thing is he was triggered by Maj. Healey, who is staunchly anti-Trump and likely trying to make some negative point about Trump.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (eYoxG)

106 My advice to every true American: Buy a reliable pistol and carry it everywhere. This country is ripe for an attack identical to what's happened in Israel.

Do not doubt this.


You need the pistol and the ar

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (RjBju)

107 Picking up the muzzie pig hate I just had a thought. We could drop the contents of those disgusting ponds at pig farms onto Gaza. They couldn't touch anything and would be forced to leave. Chemical and Biological Warfare treaty might throw a wrench in the works

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (eNQKw)

108 do they think identifying with the antagonists here somehow protects them, or makes what happened disappear?!?!

Posted by: BlackOrchid

= =

Neither. By taking the pro-Palestinian view they are establishing Woke cred among their peers while engaging in classic adolescent rebellion from authority (in this case, a moral framework). They don't feel threatened by Hamas and they are uninterested in making "the event" disappear. After all, they are cheering.

But we also need to stop adopting their language, like calling leftists "liberals". This terrorism was not "an event". The concert was an event, yes. But the attack was wanton slaughter by barbarians. The Planet needs a Bene Gesserit Gom Jabbar moment, when Civilization takes the active step of realizing all Homo Sapiens Sapiens are not human; many are animals. And it's high time we started sifting the sand.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (AD14M)

109 I'm uncertain why anyone is surprised by the barbarity. These are the same people who were decapitating people in Iraq 20 years ago.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (oUoKb)
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Yeah, but you have to remember, unwitting or not, a lot of people are Marxist or Marx-influenced. And you have to make the normal administration of a country look "oppressive". So because Israel is not a barbarian tribe, trying to run a society short of Marxism, the Marxians have to see oppression by a non-Marxist government in this. Especially, since Critical Theory, "The West".

They will eventually flag on the outrage of the day, and start to downplay the horror of barbarian terror over the "oppression" of "The West" style of government.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (krQz2)

110 >>>Well everything is Orangemanbad's fault after all.

The people who can't go two minutes without proclaiming TRUMP IS LORD are little better than the TDS brigade.

I'm sorry, but if your whole life is just following Trump's latest "Truth" and sharing them to the world, you're fucking dumb and sad.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (KRtlO)

111 Any Jew that still votes democratic is not only a Judenrat but deserves to be horse whipped
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM

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Somebody needs to be the Kapos. Who else will lead the foolish to the trains, to the camps, and finally to the showers?

Although the really shrewd and sly? They think they will be the next George Soros.

Posted by: rd at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (91wpA)

112 93 Zombie Richard Nixon would like a word.
Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:20 PM (dWjpk)

you mean that land for peace resolution in the UN ? Great job.
Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (V13WU)

Literally saved their asses during the Yom Kippur war.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (eYoxG)

113 I just found out that the accountant for the company I work for is in Israel. He went out with his family for Sukkot. There are no flights back, so he's stuck there for the time being. As far as I know he's safe.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (iFTx/)

114 The only way out of the Gaza Strip got bombed.

Two guesses who bombed it, but you'll only need one.

https://is.gd/xY3Nge

Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (0N1h0)

115 Yeah the whole we support lgbtqxyzabcxyz123 and we also support Hamas is one of the weirdest coalitions out there. I guess as long as it opposes straight white men it’s all good.
Posted by: Montec at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM

These drooling idiots would be the first to be tortured and killed by the filth they champion. In 1943 They would be Campus Jews For Hitler.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (5RO7A)

116 Richard Nixon's role, and that of those within his Administration, in the Yom Kippur War has been credited with literally saving Israel from an onslaught of potentially devastating attacks. The President recognized the threat that an Arab victory posed, the "threat of victory by Soviet arms," according to author Conrad Black. The Soviet government was the Arab world's chief supplier of munitions, and was strategically attempting to spread its influence throughout the region.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (dWjpk)

117 They're either aligned or cowed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (t0OGg)
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"You were given a choice between dishonor and war. You chose dishonor, and you'll get war."
~~ Churchill

I can't tell the difference today between aligned and cowed, but these Frank Luntz type statements will, in the end, both reap the same whirlwind.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (lGLsa)

118 TDS is a Helluva Drug

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (EbesW)

119 104 Can someone tell me why Schumer or the Democrats can't stop this bullshit? I understand the senate has their quirky rules, but enough is enough!

The AF should strafe his house. Might wake his dumb pea size brain up. Most are too scared of tRaitor tRump, or they're traitors who love/defend him. or, they're on Putin's side.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (JCZqz)

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They can. They can bring the individual nominations to the floor at any time.

Tuberville is blocking a mass approval scheme only.

Also...we're not fighting in Ukraine. Why do we need more colonels and generals to fight in a war that we're not fighting?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (LvTSG)

120 110 >>>Well everything is Orangemanbad's fault after all.

The people who can't go two minutes without proclaiming TRUMP IS LORD are little better than the TDS brigade.

I'm sorry, but if your whole life is just following Trump's latest "Truth" and sharing them to the world, you're fucking dumb and sad.
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (KRtlO)

Maj. Healey is anti-Trump at an almost Blago level.

It really is the anti-Trump crowd who most often bring him up in every flipping thread.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (eYoxG)

121 101 LOLOLOLOL. Hamas could nuke Tel Aviv and NYC and post videos of them eating screaming Jewish babies alive, and the USA would continue to do nothing. Not a fucking thing. Maybe fire off some letters?

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (iFTx/)

Democrats would CHEER that.

Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (sm6Pk)

122 The funny thing is he was triggered by Maj. Healey, who is staunchly anti-Trump and likely trying to make some negative point about Trump.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (eYoxG)

Heh, I missed that. Yeah, I generally skip over Healey's comments.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (dGCAG)

123 @105
...
The funny thing is he was triggered by Maj. Healey, who is staunchly anti-Trump and likely trying to make some negative point about Trump.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (eYoxG)
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Are we talking about "I Dream of Jeannie" now?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (pIx7m)

124 NGU, the Republican pro Israel policy developed only after 9/11. Before that , it was pro-arab, pro oil, and pro Military /Industrial complex, with constant , unyielding pressure on Israel to give up land for "peace" (LOL!). Democrats shift to anti-Israeli policy happened in the last 20 years, alongside Rs shift toward Israel.
Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (V13WU)

well no, that is inaccurate. It was developing before 9/11. No doubt it strengthened after 9/11. But I am not sure what point you are trying to make? When and how it developed is nice discussion over a few beers, but the fact is TODAY Conservatives/Repubicans are strongly Pro-Israel and the democrats are increasingly turning pro palestinian and anti-Israel and Freedom

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (pVWRI)

125 >>>103 #66, no, fuck YOU. I am not going to ride the sympathy train anymore, expected to express emotions as I am fed a steady diet of outrage porn. You enjoy being unable to control yourself, I am getting off the ride until it matter again.

good, go, get the fuck out

I think there are some websites that are more aligned with your interests.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (KRtlO)

126 Dr Jordan B Peterson @jordanbpeterson Oct 9
Iran fomented this war
To turn Arab public opinion against Israel
So that Saudi Arabia
Would not sign the Abraham Accords
Brokered by Trump

The Saudis would have signed two years ago
But @POTUS and @TheDemocrats
Alienated them instead
Because they didn't want Trump to accrue the credit
That he was truly due
For his attempts to bring peace
To the Middle East

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (krqg6)

127 Code Pink(yes they are still around) fully supports Hamas against Israel.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2023 01:25 PM (l10hq)

128 Secretary of State Anthony Blinken recently deleted a tweet calling for an immediate cease-fire--music to the ears of Hamas and Iran.

Why? Does he believe it is moral to allow Hamas to murder 900 Jews, beat their chests about such savagery, and then head home with human trophies to be tortured and executed without a response?
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Because that is what Democrats do. Remember that the next time you are filling out your ballot.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 10, 2023 01:25 PM (h6NsU)

129 Literally saved their asses during the Yom Kippur war.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (eYoxG)


He got word that they were arming nukes.

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:25 PM (V13WU)

130 >>>The funny thing is he was triggered by Maj. Healey, who is staunchly anti-Trump and likely trying to make some negative point about Trump.

No he's not. He's constantly pushing Trump bullshit in every thread.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:25 PM (KRtlO)

131 127 Code Pink(yes they are still around) fully supports Hamas against Israel.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2023 01:25 PM (l10hq)

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Because they are antiwar, of course.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:25 PM (LvTSG)

132 >>I'm sorry, but if your whole life is just following Trump's latest "Truth" and sharing them to the world, you're fucking dumb and sad.


I'm calmer than you are, Dude.

Posted by: Walter Sobchek at October 10, 2023 01:25 PM (EbesW)

133 It really is the anti-Trump crowd who most often bring him up in every flipping thread.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (eYoxG)

Right you are... Everything is not about Trump

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:25 PM (bs+z0)

134 Any Jew that still votes democratic is not only a Judenrat but deserves to be horse whipped
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:09 PM
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Thats a little harsh!

Posted by: Little George Soros at October 10, 2023 01:25 PM (lGLsa)

135 The alternative would be to keep subsidizing those who provide the wherewithal for murderers, rapists and precivilizational mutilators.

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"Biden's a mere piker."

--- DogEater, Muslim Brother

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 10, 2023 01:26 PM (HeECw)

136 The only way out of the Gaza Strip got bombed.

Two guesses who bombed it, but you'll only need one.

Seal them in. Lay siege to it. Kill them all.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:26 PM (5RO7A)

137 Picking up the muzzie pig hate I just had a thought. We could drop the contents of those disgusting ponds at pig farms onto Gaza. They couldn't touch anything and would be forced to leave. Chemical and Biological Warfare treaty might throw a wrench in the works
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (eNQKw)

Middle Eastern chiccharone. Wrap Achmed in pig skin. Hit with flamethrower. Toss burnt carcass into hole filled with pig shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 10, 2023 01:26 PM (CBBR5)

138 Fine, I'll take the bait: If Trump was President right now, this would not be happening.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:21 PM (dGCAG)
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Except if the fears about the American IC's role in this are correct, then Trump had no control over the IC, in rebellion.

I think Trump would have had a much better response than blinkin'. And I believe he would have a firmer hand going forward.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:27 PM (krQz2)

139 103 #66, no, fuck YOU. I am not going to ride the sympathy train anymore, expected to express emotions as I am fed a steady diet of outrage porn. You enjoy being unable to control yourself, I am getting off the ride until it matter again.
Posted by: unknown at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM

How's that compare to the Japanese school girl tentacle stuff? And do you have any links for me to research with my family?

Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at October 10, 2023 01:27 PM (JCZqz)

140 My advice to every true American: Buy a reliable pistol and carry it everywhere. This country is ripe for an attack identical to what's happened in Israel.

Do not doubt this.


For a while I was pocket carrying a .38 because it's MUCH more comfortable than IWB.

Not anymore. I'm IWB because I want a larger pistol for larger rounds, greater capacity, and longer range.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2023 01:27 PM (0N1h0)

141 The country is coming unglued.

Posted by: Elmer at October 10, 2023 01:27 PM (VpCCm)

142 It really is the anti-Trump crowd who most often bring him up in every flipping thread.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (eYoxG)

My first comment on this thread was commenting on the Bill Clinton comment that was posted on the last thread.

I hope the boss doesn't accuse me of being a Clinton lover.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:27 PM (dGCAG)

143 109 I'm uncertain why anyone is surprised by the barbarity. These are the same people who were decapitating people in Iraq 20 years ago.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (oUoKb)
____________

They murder and torture their own daughters and sisters for "dishonoring" the family. Or just routinely for having a clitoris. There is no act so sickening, gruesome, or barbaric that they haven't already done.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 10, 2023 01:27 PM (iFTx/)

144 and finally to the showers?

Jerry Lewis?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM (luaqR)

145 Did Joe gives his handlers speech yet ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM (bs+z0)

146 Republican policy was always about precious oil , precious arab relationships, and that was R party's center of gravity for a long time. After 9/11, the R grand poobahs (James Baker, Scowcroft and the like) finally realized that they cannot buy security. AN even then they were in tears every time Israel took steps to defend itself.

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM (V13WU)

147 >>>I'm calmer than you are, Dude.

Maybe. OTOH, I'm not impressed by Trump's many, many, many "Strong Statements" and it looks like maybe you are, so.

I remember when he was in office from 2017-2020 and did jackshit to "drain the swamp" and unlike some, I do not buy the "well now he's really gonna do all the shit he said he'd do in 2015-2016 because NOW he understands 'how deep the rot goes'" bullshit.

He's also going to lose, so he won't even have the chance.

Oh wait but there's that one (1) ABC/WaPo poll. ABC/WaPo is suddenly the most trusted pollster.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM (KRtlO)

148 The first Republican to really address Israel's security needs was George W. Bush. Before that it was arabs first and foremost.
Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:20 PM (V13WU)
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Zombie Richard Nixon would like about this too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM (RIvkX)

149 Any Jew that still votes democratic is not only a Judenrat but deserves to be horse whipped
Posted by: Never



Nothing about this is going to swing any Jews from d to r, why would it?

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM (RjBju)

150 *like a word

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 01:29 PM (RIvkX)

151 as if they were gleefully watching sacrificial victims marched up to the top of an Aztec temple in ancient Tenochtitlán?

What we are witnessing are sacrifices to molach the little god of the Canaanites. molach is now named allah. They are the same. A little god. A stone image crudely crafted by the hand of man with not a single breath of life in it. Consider that , those who have been sacrificially murder, before they were someone's child , they were God's first.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 10, 2023 01:29 PM (qj8+t)

152 The Afternoon Arterton has put on her serious face to talk about international politics and war:

https://tinyurl.com/2ptb9jh3

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:29 PM (LvTSG)

153 He's also going to lose, so he won't even have the chance.

Oh wait but there's that one (1) ABC/WaPo poll. ABC/WaPo is suddenly the most trusted pollster.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM (KRtlO)

Do you think DeSantis can win ? It's an honest question...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:29 PM (bs+z0)

154 This 36 groups at Harvard thing. Harvard isn't that big. Some 6000 undergrads.

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Jason Furman
@jasonfurman
In my classes, I strive to create an inclusive environment for all perspectives. That's partly why I avoid public statements outside my lane. But as a member of the Harvard community, I feel compelled to address the statement from 36 Harvard student groups
. . .
I deeply hope--and from my experience believe--that this statement does not speak for most students.

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Yeah, as long as it's under 50% it's under 50% it's all good.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 10, 2023 01:29 PM (FVME7)

155 Nothing about this is going to swing any Jews from d to r, why would it?
Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM (RjBju)

I would not be so sure about that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:29 PM (pVWRI)

156 Our entanglements in the Middle East have brought us nothing but misery.

This will be the stepping stone for another Forever War. More killing. More debt. More inflation. More curtailing of civil liberties. Nothing solved. Nothing changed. Just death, destruction and the degradation of our lives.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (P/g7H)

157 The US government has had, thanks to Obama/Biden, an Iranian spy and agent of influence directing our Iran policy.

Ace, you misspelled Valerie Jarrett.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (w9Wax)

158 Calmer than you, Dude.

Posted by: Walter Sobchek at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (EbesW)

159 After reading through some updates on the situation there, both militarily and politically, I strongly suspect that the beginning of any military offensive is waiting until Benny Gantz and his National Unity Party (12 mp's) join Netanyahu's coalition, possibly as soon as tomorrow.

It looks unlikely that Lapid will join. But they may regret being shut out of all the decision making because of that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (S6gqv)

160 I am not going to ride the sympathy train anymore, expected to express emotions as I am fed a steady diet of outrage porn. You enjoy being unable to control yourself, I am getting off the ride until it matter again.

You're stupid.

This is a false choice fallacy. There is a huge range between "not one ounce of sympathy" and "unable to control yourself."

Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (0N1h0)

161 The only way out of the Gaza Strip got bombed.
Two guesses who bombed it, but you'll only need one.

https://is.gd/xY3Nge
Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (0N1h0)
++++
The only out through Egypt, anyway - a way that Egypt sealed off earlier. But forbidden doesn't mean impassable. I don't know if bombings will change that. As for "who," I don't know and the Tweet doesn't say. All of the searching I do blames Israel, but all of the results also come from various PA-aligned sources.

It wouldn't make sense for Israel to have bombed it. They want "civilians" out of Gaza and in Egypt. Hamas wants hostages and human shields. Based on objectives, it is much, much more likely that Hamas did it than that Israel did it. Egypt itself is a spoiler possibility.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

162 Bush was forced to bleat out statements about religion of peace after 9/11, and put pressure on Sharon to give palis a state.

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (V13WU)

163 The people who can't go two minutes without proclaiming TRUMP IS LORD are little better than the TDS brigade.

I'm sorry, but if your whole life is just following Trump's latest "Truth" and sharing them to the world, you're fucking dumb and sad.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:23 PM (KRtlO)

= =

Just speaking for myself, the "Trump is Lord" and "Trump Cultist" schticks aren't just getting old, they're fucking dumb and sad.

The only cult I'm in is the United States of America. I love it unconditionally. I believe that Trump is a member of this cult.

DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (AD14M)

164 121 101 LOLOLOLOL. Hamas could nuke Tel Aviv and NYC and post videos of them eating screaming Jewish babies alive, and the USA would continue to do nothing. Not a fucking thing. Maybe fire off some letters?

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (iFTx/)

Democrats would CHEER that.
Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (sm6Pk)
________________

Correct. Some leftwing commie cocksuckers in Israel would too.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (iFTx/)

165 I would not be so sure about that.
Posted by: Never


There's nothing different about this terrorism than the terrorism believe other than the numbers murdered

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (RjBju)

166 VDH should have stuck to the Israel issue and left still more NATO expansion for a different piece.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (GYIa4)

167 156 Our entanglements in the Middle East have brought us nothing but misery.

This will be the stepping stone for another Forever War. More killing. More debt. More inflation. More curtailing of civil liberties. Nothing solved. Nothing changed. Just death, destruction and the degradation of our lives.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (P/g7H)

Eh, I don't see this as really getting very involved. Except insofar as it is linked to an eventual Arab-Israeli vs Iran conflict.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (eYoxG)

168 Can someone tell me why Schumer or the Democrats can't stop this bullshit?
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Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (JCZqz)
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LOL. It's because they're Democrats.

Mental paralysis doesn't stop anything.

I can actually illustrate with Barrack Obama. One of the most decisive things he did was kill Bin Laden. However, whenever Valerie was in town, he hemmed and hawed and was convinced out of taking the strike. When Valerie was out of town, they got him to act.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (krQz2)

169 The leftist Jews would actually have rooted for Hitler and the Nazi's. These same colligidiots are them in modern times. Getting killed last is not winning dipshits.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (5RO7A)

170 >>>Fine, I'll take the bait: If Trump was President right now, this would not be happening.
Posted by: BurtTC

I mean, maybe, and surely the response would be better, but you guys tend to credit Trump for doing the shit that ANY normal mainstream Republican would do. As if any ol' Establishment Republican wouldn't support Israel. Lindsey Graham is calling for the US to bomb Iran!

I mean, yes, Trump would probably give us "bomb them" bluster, which he mixes up with his Absolute Isolationism/Let's Make Some Deals talk.

Which is the policy that MAGA supports? Trump goes from one to the other extreme and his supporters say he's always right, whichever one he's pushing at this particular moment.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (KRtlO)

171 Face it. Democrats support this barbarity because they envy it. You will never convince me otherwise. They have corrupted our nation and undermined our institutions. They have turned every resource under their control against anyone perceived as opposition and then conversely protected their own acolytes. The next natural step is to outright slaughter them. We're already at the point where they won't brook any dissent, to the point they will make an example out of any challenge by destroying that person.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (oUoKb)

172 How much support of the slaughtering can the Democrats be allowed until we can just rename them for what they are - American Hamas?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (h6NsU)

173 Just speaking for myself, the "Trump is Lord" and "Trump Cultist" schticks aren't just getting old, they're fucking dumb and sad.


Don't go over to Conservative Treehouse

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (bs+z0)

174 muzzie pig hate

Parachute hogzilla wild boars with armor vests and helmets, hopped up on steroids, meth and morphine.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (luaqR)

175 Zombie Richard Nixon would like about this too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM (RIvkX)


I addressed that above. Caught between a nuke and a hard place.

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (V13WU)

176 Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2023 01:17 PM (0N1h0)

I think that's one of our old trolls. It shits itself around here every so often.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (3Gtis)

177 133 Right you are... Everything is not about Trump

which is entirely different than not everything is about trump.

Posted by: anachronda was a philosophy major at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (oY6Yp)

178 Our entanglements in the Middle East have brought us nothing but misery.
---
Zachariah says that the Lord will make Israel a "cup of trembling" for the nations.

It's not like staying out of it keeps the world out of it.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (krQz2)

179 Listening to liberals is mind-numbing:

Christians do something bad = "Christianity is evil!"

Jews do something bad = "Judaism is evil!"

Muslims do something bad = "Religion is evil!"


Posted by: Shenanigans at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (pZ0Mr)

180 "But if these Hamas atrocities elicit zero sympathy from you, you're a monster and should be shunned."

Why?

Just because someone doesn't feel sympathy, doesn't make them a monster. They might just be tapped out.

It's not like any of the Palestinian behavior is a surprise to anyone who's ever studied anything about Islam, or Palestine.

If your neighbor keeps rabid dogs, you know they're going to bite someone given the chance. The correct course of action is to shoot the dogs and burn their corpses, regardless of how much the neighbor screams.

Sympathy isn't necessary to do that (or to get out of the way of people who will).


Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (ou9hh)

181 The real enemy is Donald Trump. The real heros? I tell you who they are... anti Trump bloggers. Thats who.

Speaking of dumb and sad.

Posted by: Never-ending the barbarians at the FUCKING GATE at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (FB14j)

182 Every demonstrator in that student crowd should be shot.

Posted by: Halfhand at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (E+3bw)

183 I apologize for any negative Trump statements that I've made that highlights Trump's verbal diarrhea about things he shoulda coulda and will possibly do.

MAGA !

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (l10hq)

184 In our little social masquerade wherein so many serve the cause of evil while cleverly hiding it behind gilded masks of compassion, a barbarous attack on Israel has long been the great revealing "masks off" time of our little dance.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (AmpGx)

185 There's nothing different about this terrorism than the terrorism believe other than the numbers murdered
Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (RjBju)

????
You are dead wrong about that
Babies decapitated?
1000 dead which equals close to 40,000 proportionally in American terms

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (pVWRI)

186 Except if the fears about the American IC's role in this are correct, then Trump had no control over the IC, in rebellion.

I think Trump would have had a much better response than blinkin'. And I believe he would have a firmer hand going forward.
Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:27 PM (krQz2)

I guess it depends on how high up the rot went here. It's not unlike pre-9/11, in that intelligence was all over the actions being taken by the hijackers, but it got isolated and ignored, due to Clinton era shenanigans.

So I guess what I'm saying is, if we have assets on the ground who were aware of what Hamas was doing, would it or could it have been filtered up to the White House? And if it was, would a Trump WH have acted on it, to prevent what happened?

Maybe, maybe not... but we know those entities, Hamas and Iran would have been influenced by the fact that a Biden WH is more to their liking, when it comes to this sort of thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (dGCAG)

187 >>Maybe. OTOH, I'm not impressed by Trump's many, many, many "Strong Statements" and it looks like maybe you are, so.


You should STILL be impressed by how much better your life was under the Trump Administration than it was under the preceding and following administrations.

But, instead, you lament on how recognizing that would make you seem all Trumpy to your Liberal Frenz.

That said, I was merely using a Lebowski ref to try and get you off the High-Speed TDS Train you insist on jumping on every chance you get.

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (EbesW)

188 >>>166 VDH should have stuck to the Israel issue and left still more NATO expansion for a different piece.

he brought that up in the context of the Islamist member of NATO, Turkey. And it's a good question: Why do we allow an obviously hostile nation in our military alliance?

They're against us when it comes to terrorism and Islamism. They're also against us (meaning: official establishment US policy) when it comes to Russia. In which cases are they actually with us?

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (KRtlO)

189 They didn't bomb the border crossing - they were bombing Hamas tunnels nearby.

Posted by: Questioning at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (9p+PF)

190 VDH knows cruelty, he studies history

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (xcxpd)

191 121 101 LOLOLOLOL. Hamas could nuke Tel Aviv and NYC and post videos of them eating screaming Jewish babies alive, and the USA would continue to do nothing. Not a fucking thing. Maybe fire off some letters?

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 10, 2023 01:22 PM (iFTx/)

Democrats would CHEER that.

=========

Substitute Washington DC for Tel Aviv.
Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 01:24 PM (sm6Pk)

Posted by: rd at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (jIfNa)

192 188
They're against us when it comes to terrorism and Islamism. They're also against us (meaning: official establishment US policy) when it comes to Russia. In which cases are they actually with us?

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (KRtlO)

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Taking American money?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (LvTSG)

193 The thing which aggravates me most about "it's Israeli propaganda" crowd is there complete disregard for the video of the dead mostly naked gal be paraded around and that it's known torture and beheading is considered good clean fun by Muslim terrorists.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (z5vMw)

194 These drooling idiots would be the first to be tortured and killed by the filth they champion. In 1943 They would be Campus Jews For Hitler.
Posted by: Minnfidel

I guarantee you that everyone, bar none, at that Peace Rave were vocal supporters of multicultural idiocy. All of them.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (kjOVp)

195 Our entanglements in the Middle East have brought us nothing but misery.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (P/g7H)


Because we are trying to be friends to all. We need to pick a side. And Israel is part of the West, so that should be the side.

The Middle East would be a very different place had we simply supported Israel and ignored the rest.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (3Gtis)

196 The Terrorists protesting in the Northeast are mostly peaceful terrorists. Now I need to take a nap or two.........

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (EMZbN)

197 Swarthmore ...

am speechless

it's heavily Jewish!

why why why

do they think identifying with the antagonists here somehow protects them, or makes what happened disappear?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2023 01:10 PM (AcWfM)


No, they don't. They emote. They emote in whatever manner their masters tell them to. They embrace their chains and call them freedom.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (GYIa4)

198 >I can actually illustrate with Barrack Obama. One of the most decisive things he did was kill Bin Laden.

0bama no more 'killed bin Laden' than Nixon 'put men on the moon'

he was just president when it happened

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (geLO8)

199 Zombie Ronald Reagan would also like a word about Republicans supporting Israel.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:35 PM (dWjpk)

200 OT: Finland Estonia pipeline has been deliberately damaged. The less-published news of the day...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:35 PM (exHjb)

201 >>>>But, instead, you lament on how recognizing that would make you seem all Trumpy to your Liberal Frenz.

yes that's it, garrett, you've nailed it: The only reason people have given up on a three-time loser is because we're afraid. You are the Courageous One. My god, do you smell of manful pheremones!

You should congratulate yourself for being so thoroughly Only Trump, just like the NeverTrumpers constantly praise their own moral fortitude in opposing Trump.

We're going to lose in 2024. You won't be around to offer apologies. You'll just slink away.

We'll wind up with a Democrat for another four years, and the blog's readership will fall by 60% as people either just give up or don't feel like admitting error.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:35 PM (KRtlO)

202 I mean, maybe, and surely the response would be better, but you guys tend to credit Trump for doing the shit that ANY normal mainstream Republican would do. As if any ol' Establishment Republican wouldn't support Israel. Lindsey Graham is calling for the US to bomb Iran!

I mean, yes, Trump would probably give us "bomb them" bluster, which he mixes up with his Absolute Isolationism/Let's Make Some Deals talk.

Which is the policy that MAGA supports? Trump goes from one to the other extreme and his supporters say he's always right, whichever one he's pushing at this particular moment.
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (KRtlO)

Eh, most run of the mill Republicans are pretty milquetoast.

Trump's position is not actually isolationist, it's realpolitik + orderly dismantlement of the American empire.

Whether you agree with his aims, his foreign policy success isn't accidental. Liberal internationalism struggles by comparison for good reason.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:36 PM (eYoxG)

203 Thank God for the Morning Report!!!

Posted by: JROD at October 10, 2023 01:36 PM (IlL6s)

204 >> Swarthmore ...

am speechless


You shouldn't be. Higher Ed is a disease.

Like California.
Or, Herpes.

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2023 01:36 PM (EbesW)

205 He's also going to lose, so he won't even have the chance.
Oh wait but there's that one (1) ABC/WaPo poll. ABC/WaPo is suddenly the most trusted pollster.
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:28 PM

If, after seeing 4 years of Trump and 4 years of Biden, the American people pick Biden...they're already lost, and they deserve another 4 years good and hard. Yes, Trump is an unserious and embarrassing buffoon...and Biden is a mentally incompetent failure. It's not a great choice, but it's a clear one.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 10, 2023 01:36 PM (JCZqz)

206 by the way I don't have "Liberal Frenz," garrett. Or: I have two liberal frenz that I'm so close to I've spoken to them twice in the past four years.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:36 PM (KRtlO)

207
FBI does not have credible evidence of a threat. Be vigilant and support Ron DeSantis.

May have madeup the last part.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 01:36 PM (enJYY)

208 156 Our entanglements in the Middle East have brought us nothing but misery.

This will be the stepping stone for another Forever War. More killing. More debt. More inflation. More curtailing of civil liberties. Nothing solved. Nothing changed. Just death, destruction and the degradation of our lives.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (P/g7H)

that may be true - but to be entangled there has always been our destiny, whether you want to credit that to politics, or economics, or destiny, or prophecy. There's a reason why this has always been foretold as the war that will suck the entire world into it, to its doom.
Now that may not happen THIS time - I believe that while the final destination is fixed, the timing is not, and a strong stand now can put off the final curtain for 20, 30, maybe even 50 years. I'm all for buying time, because I would like to depart this veil of tears before that time comes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (S6gqv)

209 Bush was a unserious POTUS......

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (EMZbN)

210 There's nothing different about this terrorism than the terrorism believe other than the numbers murdered
Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (RjBju)

????
You are dead wrong about that
Babies decapitated?
1000 dead which equals close to 40,000 proportionally in American terms

Posted by: Never


What's the difference how they were murdered, murdered is murdered. They have been terrorizing Israel with everything they could devise for as long as they could.

How many terrorists murder does somebody need to change the way they see terrorism?

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (RjBju)

211 As far as Iran's role in the Hamas orgy of killing, Blinken also declared that there is no evidence of "anything that shows us that Iran was directly involved in this attack, in planning it or in carrying it out."
----------------------------------------

That statement alone should require an immediate iron dunce hat be slammed atop his head and then hoist him atop the Washington Monument and let him drop.

I don't actually believes he believes that - he just has so much contempt for the American people that he believes that we might.

Posted by: Cheri at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (oiNtH)

212 Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (dGCAG)

I doubt very much that we have assets on the ground in gaza or Lebanon. U.S. intelligence pretty much sucks at that sort of thing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (3Gtis)

213 Ace, there is video of DeSantis when he was a Congressman calling Hamas terrorists. The Florida Capital bathed in blue with flags at half staff. Today announced that the State of Florida would not do business with any entity related to Hamas or Iran.
He encouraged other states to do the same thing.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (t/2Uw)

214 Any publication or politician that hasn't condemned this barbary is in effect supporting it.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (h6NsU)

215 171 Face it. Democrats support this barbarity because they envy it...


The question isn’t if or when the attacks will start happening here…it’s if regular citizens will be arrested for attempting to stop any of the attacks.

Posted by: Crazy to be Sane at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (JuHDr)

216
We'll wind up with a Democrat for another four years, and the blog's readership will fall by 60% as people either just give up or don't feel like admitting error.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:35 PM (KRtlO)

The latter - no one sticks around to admit they were wrong.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (exHjb)

217 They didn't bomb the border crossing - they were bombing Hamas tunnels nearby.
Posted by: Questioning at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM

I'm fine with bombing anything in Gaza. And by anything I mean everything. Take the gloves off completely and wipe them all out. Egypt doesn't want them anyway.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (5RO7A)

218 Which is the policy that MAGA supports? Trump goes from one to the other extreme and his supporters say he's always right, whichever one he's pushing at this particular moment.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (KRtlO)
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MAGA isn't monolithic. But yeah, I think that was one of my biggest reservations about Trump (back in 2016) is that a good portion of his supporters just echo him.

However, my support for Trump has more to do with what he actually did in office, rather than what he said from time to time.

This resurgence of Campaign Trump is wearing on me.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (krQz2)

219 The US govt is literally funding terrorism while condemning it...
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Dreaming of Lauren Boebert's Sweater Puppies at October 10, 2023 01:11 PM (VTu1l)


The idea is to make people afraid. Frightened people long for security. Security comes from the State. So people willingly give up their freedoms to be "protected" by the very people who were threatening them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (GYIa4)

220 We'll wind up with a Democrat for another four years, and the blog's readership will fall by 60% as people either just give up or don't feel like admitting error.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:35 PM (KRtlO)

Do you think any of the Republican candidates could win ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (bs+z0)

221 The CEO of Pershing Square, a small asset management company that handles about $18.5 billion in customer assets, calls for Harvard to release lists of the signatories to the letters blaming Israel for Hamas attacks.

He says a number of CEOs are interesting in this information so they can exclude any prospective hires who signed the letters.

https://is.gd/I2p4x1

Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (0N1h0)

222 he brought that up in the context of the Islamist member of NATO, Turkey. And it's a good question: Why do we allow an obviously hostile nation in our military alliance?

They're against us when it comes to terrorism and Islamism. They're also against us (meaning: official establishment US policy) when it comes to Russia. In which cases are they actually with us?
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (KRtlO)
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They aren't Turkey's inclusion in NATO at absolute best, made only transactional sense in the context of the USSR. Turkey's membership - like NATO itself - only made sense in that context. It should have been dissolved after the fall of the USSR or at very least, Turkey should have been ejected - especially after it became an Islamist state after the coup.

Turkey today has no business being in NATO. It is not an ally and is a real opponent in many areas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:38 PM (t0OGg)

223
this news of infant slaughter is incomprehensible to me
this is Holocaust-level shit
and the fact that there are people here in the US who will excuse it, I just don't have the words for that

some people's capacity for depravity has no bottom

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 01:38 PM (geLO8)

224 don't actually believes he believes that - he just has so much contempt for the American people that he believes that we might.
Posted by: Cheri at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (oiNtH)
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I think there's a decent chance he does believe it, which makes him all the more dangerous.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 10, 2023 01:38 PM (z5vMw)

225 >>yes that's it, garrett, you've nailed it: The only reason people have given up on a three-time loser is because we're afraid. You are the Courageous One. My god, do you smell of manful pheremones!


Show me on the Doll where you wished the BadOrangeMan touched you Ace.

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2023 01:39 PM (EbesW)

226 Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (RjBju)


I think you are dead wrong, but time will tell. No need to discuss this any further

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:39 PM (pVWRI)

227 Joe Biden....... Jummy Biden..... Jimmy Cardin......


JIMMY CARTER Part II with hostages and all again...

Thiose whom do not learn from history....... Are doomed to repeat it !!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 10, 2023 01:39 PM (EMZbN)

228 220 We'll wind up with a Democrat for another four years, and the blog's readership will fall by 60% as people either just give up or don't feel like admitting error.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:35 PM (KRtlO)

Do you think any of the Republican candidates could win ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (bs+z0)

Not ace, but YES. If it's Biden, many of them can. Just not Trump. B/c we've already talked about the path to a win having to run through GA and VA, 2 states where Trump has less-than-zero chance. And he can't win anywhere else to make up for it. He can just run up scores in states we already win...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:39 PM (exHjb)

229 I addressed that above. Caught between a nuke and a hard place.
Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM (V13WU)


Ah. So he reluctantly saved Israel. Got it. Reagan was reluctant, too, I guess.

Like I said, ahistorical.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:39 PM (dWjpk)

230 I can actually illustrate with Barrack Obama. One of the most decisive things he did was kill Bin Laden.
Posted by: Axeman

The only reason he killed Bin Laden's Body Double was because less than one week earlier, the White House accidentally released the most obvious forged Birth Certificate Adobe Illustrator file in graphic design history, and literally every graphic designer in the world had it downloaded and knew it, and it was about to blow up.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (kjOVp)

231 Obama, a deeply dumb man, thought he could turn the Middle East into a game of Risk, and manipulate Israel into a "two state solution". Instead, all he and Blinken and Sullivan (et al) have accomplished is war.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (G5BuD)

232 When one remembers Blinken's Palestinian Affairs office in the State Department and its even worse ceasefire tweet, which, like Blinken's, disappeared without comment, the appointment of the Iranian megaphone Robert Malley (currently under investigation by the FBI) as our point man on the bankrupt Iran Deal, and Blinken's recent brag about all the hundreds of millions of dollars we have sent to the Palestinians, the picture is one of partisan incompetence.

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What, neither Hunter nor Kamala were available?

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (HeECw)

233 The senile bastard is late again. I guess waiting for the drugs to take effect

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (pVWRI)

234 I mean, maybe, and surely the response would be better, but you guys tend to credit Trump for doing the shit that ANY normal mainstream Republican would do. As if any ol' Establishment Republican wouldn't support Israel. Lindsey Graham is calling for the US to bomb Iran!

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (KRtlO)

Personally, I believe the Republican Party should become almost completely isolationist.

They can't be trusted with ANY foreign intervention at this point, but I'm also resigned to the fact that this is NOT the point at which we could expect any Republican not to beat the war chest.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (dGCAG)

235 Oh, so we're making this thread all about Trump.

Yeah, that makes sense.

I think I'll go read.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (xcxpd)

236 I'm always impressed with the detailed way that VDH summarizes how a problem developed over time. Historians must have great memories.

Posted by: Dave at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (nLwaa)

237 *interested

Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (0N1h0)

238 already talked about the path to a win having to run through GA and VA, 2 states where Trump has less-than-zero chance.

Any pathway through Virginia for a Republican is an unrealistic expectation. Trump didn't win VA in 2016 or 2020.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (dWjpk)

239 I mean, maybe, and surely the response would be better, but you guys tend to credit Trump for doing the shit that ANY normal mainstream Republican would do. As if any ol' Establishment Republican wouldn't support Israel. Lindsey Graham is calling for the US to bomb Iran!
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I'm not sure why Trump doesn't deserve credit for when he does what most other Republicans would do. That doesn't mean that other Pubs would do what he stuck to.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (krQz2)

240 Here is the difference.
What is Hamas's military objective? What possible military objective can be achieved by killing civilians other than genocide?
This is not war. This is an existential battle.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (t/2Uw)

241 216
We'll wind up with a Democrat for another four years, and the blog's readership will fall by 60% as people either just give up or don't feel like admitting error.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:35 PM (KRtlO)

The latter - no one sticks around to admit they were wrong.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (exHjb)

Well keep in mind I've been saying Trump would win the primary (which if true means the boosters of other hopefuls as serious contenders were wrong) and lose the general. I just don't attribute it to weakness as a candidate.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (eYoxG)

242 For once, you know what I'm not seeing?

Breathless reports with furrowed brows darkly intoning we must be vigilant against a backlash against Muslims.

Yet.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (a+vXW)

243 Been reported there are Mostly Peaceful Beheadings.....

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (EMZbN)

244 blog's readership will fall by 60% as people either just give up or don't feel like admitting error.
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You didn't become a popular voice by ridiculing the 60 million people who voted for prior republican presidents/candidates. Why would ridiculing the 72 million who voted for the last one be a popular move? Who is it you are trying to please?

Posted by: Um you might be misdiagnosing the issue at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (FB14j)

245 Not ace, but YES. If it's Biden, many of them can. Just not Trump. B/c we've already talked about the path to a win having to run through GA and VA, 2 states where Trump has less-than-zero chance. And he can't win anywhere else to make up for it. He can just run up scores in states we already win...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:39 PM

Agreed.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (5RO7A)

246 217 They didn't bomb the border crossing - they were bombing Hamas tunnels nearby.
Posted by: Questioning at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM

I'm fine with bombing anything in Gaza. And by anything I mean everything. Take the gloves off completely and wipe them all out. Egypt doesn't want them anyway.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (5RO7A)

It's funny how the Gazans scream in horror at a bomb blast when only a few days ago they were dancing around throwing candies while Israeli civilians were being terrorized, raped, and murdered. No so much fun when the shoe is on the other foot.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

247
Cernovich
@Cernovich
Special operations purge over 💉

Strategic oil supply drained

Artillery shell shortage

White men who make up combat arms declared enemy of the regime

Vet bros lmao’ing at idea of being called back

World War III not looking good. Who is going to fight it, and with what?

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (TGPs7)

248
Personally, I believe the Republican Party should become almost completely isolationist.

They can't be trusted with ANY foreign intervention at this point, but I'm also resigned to the fact that this is NOT the point at which we could expect any Republican not to beat the war chest.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (dGCAG)

A Rand Paul supporter has entered the chat (I've always been one.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (exHjb)

249
Turkey today has no business being in NATO. It is not an ally and is a real opponent in many areas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:38 PM


Been saying that for more then 20 years. The 'Cuban Missile crisis' was really the 'foreign positioning of nuclear weapons in Turkey crisis'.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 01:42 PM (enJYY)

250 I see Biden is late again.

Posted by: Infidel at October 10, 2023 01:42 PM (9nS8R)

251 242 For once, you know what I'm not seeing?

Breathless reports with furrowed brows darkly intoning we must be vigilant against a backlash against Muslims.

Yet.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (a+vXW)

Beheaded babies has that affect...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:42 PM (bs+z0)

252 I have not thought about the primary since Saturday and will worry about it when the time comes and that time is not now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:42 PM (pVWRI)

253 234 I mean, maybe, and surely the response would be better, but you guys tend to credit Trump for doing the shit that ANY normal mainstream Republican would do. As if any ol' Establishment Republican wouldn't support Israel. Lindsey Graham is calling for the US to bomb Iran!

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (KRtlO)

Personally, I believe the Republican Party should become almost completely isolationist.

They can't be trusted with ANY foreign intervention at this point, but I'm also resigned to the fact that this is NOT the point at which we could expect any Republican not to beat the war chest.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (dGCAG)

Nearly the entire ruling class, R or D, subscribes to Wilsonian foreign policy. It's retarded but they're very consistent about it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:42 PM (eYoxG)

254 Ah. So he reluctantly saved Israel. Got it. Reagan was reluctant, too, I guess.

Like I said, ahistorical.
Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:39 PM (dWjpk)

do I really need to get into Reagan's angry calls to Begin or into resolution 487 ? No ? Good.

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:42 PM (V13WU)

255 238 already talked about the path to a win having to run through GA and VA, 2 states where Trump has less-than-zero chance.

Any pathway through Virginia for a Republican is an unrealistic expectation. Trump didn't win VA in 2016 or 2020.
Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (dWjpk)

Thus, his less than zero chance in 2024. Youngkin's win and the subsequent voter roll clean up has made VA possible...and it needs to be won to win 2024.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:42 PM (exHjb)

256 If Trump is RELECTED he must be IMPEACHED because of His failures although he is not POTUS.....

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (EMZbN)

257 Here is the difference.
What is Hamas's military objective? What possible military objective can be achieved by killing civilians other than genocide?
This is not war. This is an existential battle.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (t/2Uw)
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It is war, just particularly nasty form of it. The military objective is fairly straightforward: the elimination of Israel and everyone who lives in it. It isn't a military objective as we usually think of it because it is unbounded. We're used to objectives like, "secure that port" or "keep them away from our borders" but that is not the only form that objectives can take.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (t0OGg)

258 >>>But yeah, I think that was one of my biggest reservations about Trump (back in 2016) is that a good portion of his supporters


You could just stop that sentence right there. Despite Trump's issues as a candidate which are not in the least inconsequential, the thing that truly makes him unattractive as a candidate is the conduct of his supporters. It is they who routinely make Trump a hard sell to the middle he has to win.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (AmpGx)

259 Obama, a deeply dumb man, thought he could turn the Middle East into a game of Risk, and manipulate Israel into a "two state solution". Instead, all he and Blinken and Sullivan (et al) have accomplished is war.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (G5BuD)

Which is what they wanted anyway.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (CBBR5)

260 Breathless reports with furrowed brows darkly intoning we must be vigilant against a backlash against Muslims.

Yet.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM

I always laugh at those. Gee, maybe it should be the ones who should be vigilant with Muslims. They are the ones attacking so maybe the fear ought to be with the intended victims.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (5RO7A)

261 245 Not ace, but YES. If it's Biden, many of them can. Just not Trump. B/c we've already talked about the path to a win having to run through GA and VA, 2 states where Trump has less-than-zero chance. And he can't win anywhere else to make up for it. He can just run up scores in states we already win...


I do have many liberal friends and relations

this is correct - and the main problem with PDJT right now is his similarity (in their minds, and I guess I kind of see it) with Joetato.

everyone wants free of the past six years

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (AcWfM)

262 Do you think any of the Republican candidates could win ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (bs+z0)

Possibly. But none of them can be nominated.

And any of them that would be supported fully by Gope is the kind who is fully owned by the Republican oligarchs.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (dGCAG)

263 >>Breathless reports with furrowed brows darkly intoning we must be vigilant against a backlash against Muslims.

I'm a bit more focused on frontlash from Muslims. They love terror porn and it just excites their feral brains to want more of it.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (ZLI7S)

264 228 Not ace, but YES. If it's Biden, many of them can. Just not Trump. B/c we've already talked about the path to a win having to run through GA and VA, 2 states where Trump has less-than-zero chance. And he can't win anywhere else to make up for it. He can just run up scores in states we already win...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:39 PM (exHjb)
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GA and VA aren't enough.

If, somehow, another candidate could win VA and GA, they'd have to win MN, MI, WI, PA, or AZ. All of those have urban centers that have gotten worse in terms of cheating, rather than better.

The only Republican who can win is the one who can tell me right now how they prevent PA from "accidentally" sending out 250,000 mail in ballots illegally and then just counting them anyway.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (LvTSG)

265 Which reminds me of one of my favorite Norm Macdonald moments, where he got some liberal Asian cow to agree that the most horrible thing that could happen after terrorists killed thousands was the backlash.

Whoosh! Right one her head--maybe have some concerns for the dead?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:44 PM (a+vXW)

266 Starbucks Workers United, an affiliate of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), expressed "Solidarity with Palestine!" in deleted social media posts

Posted by: Hmmm at October 10, 2023 01:44 PM (VpCCm)

267 To Cernovich, may I add:

Dollar decline by 15% or more

Armed forces gone "woke"

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 10, 2023 01:44 PM (LhtZu)

268 OT:

Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden doubled down Tuesday on comments stating that Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) should be removed from "the human race."
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That sounds like a bodily threat at a US Senator to me. Can you imagine how fast your EFF BEE EYE would be kicking down your door and shooting if you or I said that?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 10, 2023 01:44 PM (h6NsU)

269 We'll wind up with a Democrat for another four years, and the blog's readership will fall by 60% as people either just give up or don't feel like admitting error.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:35 PM (KRtlO)


I remember reading a blog in 2016 that said if the readership were to back Trump, fine, it would mean the loss of the Presidency, Congress, and Supreme Court for a generation. A GENERATION.

It was like something of spades dot com or something.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:44 PM (dWjpk)

270 243 Been reported there are Mostly Peaceful Beheadings.....

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (EMZbN)

and murders, and rapes, too.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 10, 2023 01:44 PM (ynpvh)

271 Khamenei Distances Iran From Hamas Operation, Fearing Israeli Attack, As Rocket Salvo Fired From Lebanon

Iran’s supreme leader has strongly rejected any involvement in the Hamas movement’s surprise attack on Israel. The public maneuvering, which involved Ayatollah Ali Khamenei strikingly repeating his rejection of an Iranian role three times in a 90-second span, follows controversial claims in US media that Tehran helped plan the Oct. 7 blitz.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a high-ranking Iranian source told Amwaj.media that Khamenei’s remarks—his first since the Hamas offensive—may have been sparked by “him seeing the direction of the Israeli public diplomacy campaign.” Rejecting concerns of an impending Israeli attack as Khamenei’s underlying motive, the source said the supreme leader’s comments are “pre-emptive” as opposed to reactive.

Addressing the rare decision by Khamenei to be so vocal in his rejection of an Iranian role in the Palestinian blitz, a second senior source in Tehran told Amwaj.media, “Give me one reason why he should do otherwise.”

Posted by: SMOD at October 10, 2023 01:45 PM (RHGPo)

272 Don't go over to Conservative Treehouse
Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:32 PM

But who will remind me to "trust the plan"?!?!

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 10, 2023 01:45 PM (JCZqz)

273 Here's the issue: Bad things happened to Israel--really bad things.

Israel is in a crisis to counter it. Regardless of what we do to aid them.

And in such a crisis, they are going to do some things that would be rash in the commonplace.

I'm just surprised that we can't all agree on this, regardless of whether we "intervene" or take some sort of role--even in support.

But a lot of the libs have returned to their kabuki plays already.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:45 PM (krQz2)

274 I doubt very much that we have assets on the ground in gaza or Lebanon. U.S. intelligence pretty much sucks at that sort of thing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2023 01:37 PM (3Gtis)

Stansfield Turner, under Jimmy Carter, was the CIA head who began to get rid of having agents in the field and instead to focus almost exclusively on electronic surveillance, with all its weaknesses.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 01:45 PM (S6gqv)

275 It wouldn't make sense for Israel to have bombed it. They want "civilians" out of Gaza and in Egypt. Hamas wants hostages and human shields. Based on objectives, it is much, much more likely that Hamas did it than that Israel did it. Egypt itself is a spoiler possibility.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

If the bombing of escape routes is true, then I agree with your assessment. Hamas isn't going to give up their human shields.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 10, 2023 01:45 PM (BdMk6)

276
It's funny how the Gazans scream in horror at a bomb blast when only a few days ago they were dancing around throwing candies while Israeli civilians were being terrorized, raped, and murdered. No so much fun when the shoe is on the other foot.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM

Time to turn it up to eleventy.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:45 PM (5RO7A)

277 this is Holocaust-level shit
and the fact that there are people here in the US who will excuse it, I just don't have the words for that

some people's capacity for depravity has no bottom
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See.23 above...

Posted by: Brie Larson at October 10, 2023 01:45 PM (FB14j)

278 >>You could just stop that sentence right there. Despite Trump's issues as a candidate which are not in the least inconsequential, the thing that truly makes him unattractive as a candidate is the conduct of his supporters. It is they who routinely make Trump a hard sell to the middle he has to win.

Maybe DeSantis supporters could call Trump supporters a cult more. Than seems to be working out swimmingly.

It's amusing that DeSantis supporters don't see just how obnoxious they are.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)

279 >>>
Personally, I believe the Republican Party should become almost completely isolationist.

They can't be trusted with ANY foreign intervention at this point, but I'm also resigned to the fact that this is NOT the point at which we could expect any Republican not to beat the war chest.
Posted by: BurtTC

that's fine, but it's not Trump's policy. He is always equivocating.

Which I understand, for political reasons. But when he goes back and forth between the extremes I just hear he's always right.

And when DeSantis expresses similar notions about withdrawing from being so interventionist but still leaves open the possibility of using force in the appropriate case -- people scream that he's not issuing "Strong Statements" in favor of full isolationism like Trump is.

Except... Trump doesn't do that. Trump equivocates.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (KRtlO)

280 I prefer my spaghetti without "meatballs".

Posted by: Blazer at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (5LFjM)

281 Personally, I believe the Republican Party should become almost completely isolationist.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:40 PM (dGCAG)


Banish the insanity of the neo-cons and chicken hawks, and we might have a shot at a sane foreign policy.

And by that I mean supporting our real allies, guarding our trade routes, and staying the f*ck out of every shitcanistan war popping up every day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (3Gtis)

282 Addressing the rare decision by Khamenei to be so vocal in his rejection of an Iranian role in the Palestinian blitz, a second senior source in Tehran told Amwaj.media, “Give me one reason why he should do otherwise.”
Posted by: SMOD at October 10, 2023 01:45 PM (RHGPo)
++++
Mandy Rice-Davies applies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (t0OGg)

283 Fair or not, in the population of voters necessary to win a general election, Trump receives the highest negatives of any candidate. In fact, no candidate with those numbers has ever won (should the numbers stay static). You can blame electoral irregularities (which he hasn't addressed in any material way) or the Moon God. But he should be beating this dirt bag in the White House by significant margins. He isn't, and it doesn't seem anything will significantly change that, especially with the growing number of independents. What I blame Trump for is his inability to see this through anything other then a primary game, or to acknowledge this as anything but a grudge match and step aside for the next generation of leader. It's seems selfish and egotistical. In fact it seems like he's fighting for himself not "us".

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (oUoKb)

284 Man, this is depressing.
Later..

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (t/2Uw)

285 How hard will taking our nukes out of Turkey be?

Posted by: Goatweed at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (0Q/6W)

286 51 242 For once, you know what I'm not seeing?

Breathless reports with furrowed brows darkly intoning we must be vigilant against a backlash against Muslims.

Yet.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (a+vXW)

///"
Yep. I heard this "I hope no backlash against Muslims" plea about 10am on 9/11


Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (LhtZu)

287 And the proper response to all this here in the U.S.?

All monies to the West Bank and Gaza should be immediately cut off. The Iran transfers, if our State Department's pleas are correct that they are not yet finalized, should be stopped immediately.
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Naa, ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: President Joseph Biden at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (h6NsU)

288 >>It really is the anti-Trump crowd who most often bring him up in every flipping thread.


True fact:

I was at La Guardia Airport in 2016 and right there in one of the stores on the walkway was a Trump 2016 coloring book with him as Super Trump on the cover.

It's amazing how long ago that now seems.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (rc3Z7)

289 Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:31 PM (KRtlO)

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Do you really think that it would not be better if we had Trump rather than Sponge Brain Shits Pants in charge?

The border would have been closed , despite the backstabbing by the GOP Establishment.

Ukraine ever would have happened, because oil prices would have been so low that Russia could never have afforded to go to war. And Trump would have negotiated with both sides to come up with a solution. Probably involving Trade and Economics, not arms and military bases.

KSA would have been in the Abraham Accords. Hamas would have known that Trump will not backstab Israel in the UN next week, and demand Israel stop destroying Hamas after a few days of fighting.

Your reflexive Trump Hatred is getting worse.

Posted by: rd at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (NeuC5)

290 264 228 Not ace, but YES. If it's Biden, many of them can. Just not Trump. B/c we've already talked about the path to a win having to run through GA and VA, 2 states where Trump has less-than-zero chance. And he can't win anywhere else to make up for it. He can just run up scores in states we already win...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:39 PM

Would it really make much difference if most of the Rs running won? I thought we learned from Bush, McCain, Romney etc that just electing and R doesn't mean we (or the country) won?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (JCZqz)

291 261 245 Not ace, but YES. If it's Biden, many of them can. Just not Trump. B/c we've already talked about the path to a win having to run through GA and VA, 2 states where Trump has less-than-zero chance. And he can't win anywhere else to make up for it. He can just run up scores in states we already win...


I do have many liberal friends and relations

this is correct - and the main problem with PDJT right now is his similarity (in their minds, and I guess I kind of see it) with Joetato.

everyone wants free of the past six years
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (AcWfM)

I've said whoever drops their geriatric 1st will also win. With RFK Jr going 3rd party, it doesn't seem like Dems are in a rush to do so...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (exHjb)

292 If, somehow, another candidate could win VA and GA, they'd have to win MN, MI, WI, PA, or AZ. All of those have urban centers that have gotten worse in terms of cheating, rather than better.
--'
WI supreme court has ruled that the dropboxes were illeagal and that the no-excuse absentee ballots sent to everyone were as well.

WI isn't as sure a cheat anymore.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (a+vXW)

293 284 Man, this is depressing.
Later..
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (t/2Uw)


Me too...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (bs+z0)

294 We're going to lose in 2024. You won't be around to offer apologies. You'll just slink away.

We'll wind up with a Democrat for another four years, and the blog's readership will fall by 60% as people either just give up or don't feel like admitting error.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:35 PM (KRtlO)


I'm not "only Trump", but the real question to me is - is winning with the likes of Haley or some other republican really any different than a democrat winning? History has taught us that it is not.

Desantis may (although I seriously doubt it) become president and govern like a conservative. But again, history has taught us that even the most conservative seeming candidate is really just a shill for the uni-party. Every "conservative" senator or congressman has been revealed as a phony. Bush I, Dole, W. McCain, Romney - all were simply tax collectors for the left.

That is why Trump won the GOP nomination the first time around - and he actually delivered. He wasn't and isn't perfect - and I don't claim that. I just have no faith in any other GOP candidate b/c I've learned my lesson over and over and over again. You seem ready to believe in GOPism again.

Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (ky+MF)

295 resolution 487 , that Reagan supported :

"United Nations Security Council resolution 487, adopted unanimously on 19 June 1981, having noted representations from Iraq and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the Council condemned an attack by Israel on an IAEA-approved nuclear site in Iraq.
The resolution went on to call for a cessation of hostile activities, entitled Iraq to claim for compensation, and urged Israel to place its nuclear facilities under IAEA safeguards.

Israel fought for its existence, and Reagan, via his UN rep, told it to stop. Want more ?

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (V13WU)

296 283 You can blame electoral irregularities (which he hasn't addressed in any material way)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (oUoKb)

========

Since this will be true no matter the candidate, which Republican can beat it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (LvTSG)

297 That sounds like a bodily threat at a US Senator to me. Can you imagine how fast your EFF BEE EYE would be kicking down your door and shooting if you or I said that?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 10, 2023 01:44 PM

Bingo!

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (5RO7A)

298 If the bombing of escape routes is true, then I agree with your assessment. Hamas isn't going to give up their human shields.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 10, 2023 01:45 PM (BdMk6)
++++
From what I've been reading, Israel did acknowledge bombing near the crossing to destroy a smuggling tunnel between Egypt and Gaza. They have not taken credit for bombing the crossing itself, nor is it clear if the crossing proper could have been collateral damage.

It's all quite unclear.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 01:48 PM (t0OGg)

299 I just got off the phone with Hamas and they agreed that the Gay Pride Parade will be rescheduled once the conflict is over in about a month...

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2023 01:48 PM (0vFtj)

300 Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_

NEW: Internal CBP data provided & confirmed by CBP sources reveals thousands of “special interest aliens” from mostly Middle Eastern countries have been apprehended by Border Patrol while crossing into U.S. illegally over last 2 years.

Syria: 538
Yemen: 139
Iran: 659
Iraq: 123
Afghanistan: 6,386
Lebanon: 164
Egypt: 3,153
Pakistan: 1,613
Mauritania: 15,594
Uzbekistan: 13,624
Turkey: 30,830

Date range 10/1/2021 - 10/4/2023

https://tinyurl.com/63tt5n8w

Posted by: redridinghood at October 10, 2023 01:48 PM (NpAcC)

301 >>>I remember reading a blog in 2016 that said if the readership were to back Trump, fine, it would mean the loss of the Presidency, Congress, and Supreme Court for a generation. A GENERATION.
It was like something of spades dot com or something.

Well I don't think I said that but I certainly thought Trump would lose... though I did back him strongly.

Almost everyone thought he would lose, of course, including most of his supporters.

But I do notice you guys keep going back to a single election, 2016, and never cite the election results in 2018, 2020, and 2022.

Oh well, I'm sure this time it'll be different. I mean, Trump couldn't lose FOUR times in a row, right?

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:48 PM (KRtlO)

302 291 261 245 Not ace, but YES. If it's Biden, many of them can. Just not Trump. B/c we've already talked about the path to a win having to run through GA and VA, 2 states where Trump has less-than-zero chance. And he can't win anywhere else to make up for it. He can just run up scores in states we already win...


I do have many liberal friends and relations

this is correct - and the main problem with PDJT right now is his similarity (in their minds, and I guess I kind of see it) with Joetato.

everyone wants free of the past six years
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (AcWfM)

I've said whoever drops their geriatric 1st will also win. With RFK Jr going 3rd party, it doesn't seem like Dems are in a rush to do so...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (exHjb)

Biden is the Democrat's strongest candidate. Replacing him means renegotiation within the party power structure.

Your view I think ignores the importance of political machines.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:48 PM (eYoxG)

303 I'm not even sure there will be any elections in 2024.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 01:49 PM (S6gqv)

304 >>>Posted by: redridinghood

someone just shared that with me.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:49 PM (KRtlO)

305 You might wonder how the leftards can commit solidarity with the terrorists. When you are already in solidarity with Satan, it ain't such a big step.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 10, 2023 01:49 PM (pohLc)

306 It's seems selfish and egotistical. In fact it seems like he's fighting for himself not "us".
Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (oUoKb)

///

Spot on. And I know that Jan 2017 - Dec 2019 was like paradise compared with three years of Biden, Trump doesn't get it.

Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 10, 2023 01:49 PM (LhtZu)

307 292 WI supreme court has ruled that the dropboxes were illeagal and that the no-excuse absentee ballots sent to everyone were as well.

WI isn't as sure a cheat anymore.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (a+vXW)

========

Here's the pattern that these places follow:

They outright break the law, outright cheat, and outright give power to Democrats. Then, about a year later, a court says, "That was bad. You shouldn't have done that."

And the Democrats remain in power.

What incentive do Democrats have to not...just do it again?

The courts won't save us because they're not actually doing anything to remove the people who do the cheating. They system has failed. It's up to the people to regain their suffrage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (LvTSG)

308 Desantis may (although I seriously doubt it) become president and govern like a conservative. But again, history has taught us that even the most conservative seeming candidate is really just a shill for the uni-party. Every "conservative" senator or congressman has been revealed as a phony. Bush I, Dole, W. McCain, Romney - all were simply tax collectors for the left.

That is why Trump won the GOP nomination the first time around - and he actually delivered. He wasn't and isn't perfect - and I don't claim that. I just have no faith in any other GOP candidate b/c I've learned my lesson over and over and over again. You seem ready to believe in GOPism again.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM

Look at how Desantis has governed. Then get back to me. Yep I'll vote for Trump. But I think we get destroyed because Trump cannot win indy's and swing voters this time. Trump motivates the left and the middle will sit out or vote for Joepedo.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (5RO7A)

309 For once, you know what I'm not seeing?

Breathless reports with furrowed brows darkly intoning we must be vigilant against a backlash against Muslims.

Yet.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (a+vXW)

///"
Yep. I heard this "I hope no backlash against Muslims" plea about 10am on 9/11


Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (LhtZu)

Yup. It's coming. CAIR will kick it off.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (BdMk6)

310 the thing that truly makes him unattractive as a candidate is the conduct of his supporters. It is they who routinely make Trump a hard sell to the middle he has to win.
===
Let me guess, you don't care for. RICH MEN NORTH OF RICHMOND. Outre'.

Posted by: Chervic construction co. at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (FB14j)

311 >>We're going to lose in 2024. You won't be around to offer apologies. You'll just slink away.


I would press X to doubt, here, Cupcake.

I have no problem being wrong or admitting it.

And if you need an actual man to help you with that shelving, or working out the 'reversible' riddle of your portable drill, you only need to ask.

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (EbesW)

312 @279

>>And when DeSantis...

You really have to let this whole DeSantis thing go.

He was never going to be the nominee.

I know you really get keyed up about these things.

Things are the way things are going to be.

And he is only doing more damage to himself the more he persists.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (rc3Z7)

313 Also, there are probably going to be World agreements coming out of this attack. And we'll most likely be involved in those.

And if we get the Democrat "Trust the UN" bullshit, there's only going to be more of these instances.

And just like in domestic policy you have to wonder how much more destruction and chaos is necessary to remove Democrats from power, we'll have to see how much slaughter is tolerated by the Democrats before we see action--or a slackening of principles and hand-waving (which never created any interruption of Evil).

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (krQz2)

314 242 For once, you know what I'm not seeing?

Breathless reports with furrowed brows darkly intoning we must be vigilant against a backlash against Muslims.

Yet.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (a+vXW)

You are correct. Strange, isn't it.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (2PbwJ)

315 Surprised VDH didn't use the term 'Hamas Einsatzgruppen'. Because that is exactly how these Hamas terrorists behaved.

Posted by: AR at October 10, 2023 01:51 PM (kUJVj)

316 "United Nations Security Council resolution 487, adopted unanimously on 19 June 1981, having noted representations from Iraq and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the Council condemned an attack by Israel on an IAEA-approved nuclear site in Iraq.
The resolution went on to call for a cessation of hostile activities, entitled Iraq to claim for compensation, and urged Israel to place its nuclear facilities under IAEA safeguards.

Israel fought for its existence, and Reagan, via his UN rep, told it to stop. Want more ?

Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (V13WU)


Weren't we supporting Iraq in a war against Iran at the time? Maybe that had something to do with Reagan's UN position.

Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 10, 2023 01:51 PM (ky+MF)

317 DeSantis went from 30% support in the polls when he announced to... 12%

Uhhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Dreaming of Lauren Boebert's Sweater Puppies at October 10, 2023 01:51 PM (VTu1l)

318 But I do notice you guys keep going back to a single election, 2016, and never cite the election results in 2018, 2020, and 2022.

Oh well, I'm sure this time it'll be different. I mean, Trump couldn't lose FOUR times in a row, right?
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:48 PM (KRtlO)

I will and happily do cite those years for evidence of my thesis that Republicans have a structural problem.

2018 only had warning signs, mostly in CA, easy to overlook since it's normal to lose Congress in the off-year after coming to office.

2020 was when the Democrats united and used every trick in the book. This also taught them they didn't need to worry about appearances.

In 2022, they refined their approach. Rs won the popular vote by a 3% margin and eked out miserable gains, when historically that sort of margin for Rs means a landslide.

Your view of the R situation is extremely optimistic because it makes this whole thing out to be a Trump problem.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 01:51 PM (eYoxG)

319 How hard will taking our nukes out of Turkey be?
Posted by: Goatweed at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (0Q/6W)


Just leave them. It would be... too expensive ... to move them. -- Tranny Milley.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 10, 2023 01:52 PM (AiZBA)

320 "Since this will be true no matter the candidate, which Republican can beat it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (LvTSG)"

There are many efforts to clean up the electoral system. There have also been numerous victories. Trump has zero to do with them. He hasn't put any money into the ones making progress. None. Why is that? He's the self proclaimed party leader. Are we to believe his lack of engagement is so he can push an immaterial slogan of the stolen election? This should be our total and complete focus especially in swing states. That's where we need to build electoral margins, and it's where Trump consistently gets beaten.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2023 01:52 PM (oUoKb)

321 the thing that truly makes him unattractive as a candidate is the conduct of his supporters. It is they who routinely make Trump a hard sell to the middle he has to win.
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Until, in general, America wises up to the media, sanity is going to be a "hard sell" to the American people.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:52 PM (krQz2)

322 80 Usual public service announcement: If you don't recognize the nic, there's some chance it's a troll or someone sent by some faction to muddy up the comments section here.

Proceed with caution.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 10, 2023 01:19 PM (dGCAG)

There is a lot of this happening here today.

Posted by: President Joseph Biden at October 10, 2023 01:52 PM (h6NsU)

323 Israel fought for its existence, and Reagan, via his UN rep, told it to stop. Want more ?
Posted by: runner at October 10, 2023 01:47 PM (V13WU)


I can also provide Reagan's support of Israel in a point by point recitation.

No President has a 100% supportive of Israel position. Presidents of the US generally take a pro-US position and sometimes the things that are in the best interest of the US are not in the best interest of Israel. Just the way it is.

But the point remains that to say that GHWB was the first Republican President to support the defense of Israel is just not in alignment with the truth. And it does not, in fact, begin to explain why American Jews support Democrats.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:52 PM (dWjpk)

324 Date range 10/1/2021 - 10/4/2023

https://tinyurl.com/63tt5n8w

Posted by: redridinghood at October 10, 2023 01:48 PM (NpAcC)

As I commented last thread, that's a list of those APPREHENDED. How many got through? Also lots of CCP came through as well.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 10, 2023 01:53 PM (ynpvh)

325 I don't want to be a part of this new world order.

I want to win the lottery, buy an island and check the fuck out. I'll fly y'all to my place for a MoMe.

Other than that. I want out.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 10, 2023 01:53 PM (f6yyg)

326 .







.

This is the full statement today from Glitch McConnell.

Posted by: rd at October 10, 2023 01:53 PM (NeuC5)

327 he brought that up in the context of the Islamist member of NATO, Turkey. And it's a good question: Why do we allow an obviously hostile nation in our military alliance?

They're against us when it comes to terrorism and Islamism. They're also against us (meaning: official establishment US policy) when it comes to Russia. In which cases are they actually with us?

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (KRtlO)


Turkey has been in NATO since 1952. They weren't an Islamist nation then. Maybe we should consider not trying to be in an ever expanding, permanent military alliance.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 10, 2023 01:53 PM (GYIa4)

328 How hard will taking our nukes out of Turkey be?

Don't get them "to go", blast em off in situ.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 10, 2023 01:53 PM (luaqR)

329 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at October 10, 2023 01:53 PM (l10hq)

330
I think you are dead wrong, but time will tell. No need to discuss this any further
Posted by: Never


It would be nice to be wrong about this, however
1. If Israel does not think it matters why should America;
2.if a majority of Jews do not think it matters why should anybody else;
3. Beyond that it is kind of a question as to whether or not I should see this as something I need to be assisting with or is it just baltimore?

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (RjBju)

331 330 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at October 10, 2023 01:53 PM (l10hq)

No.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

332 285 How hard will taking our nukes out of Turkey be?
Posted by: Goatweed at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (0Q/6W)

we could detonate them in place.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (S6gqv)

333 Look at how Desantis has governed. Then get back to me. Yep I'll vote for Trump. But I think we get destroyed because Trump cannot win indy's and swing voters this time. Trump motivates the left and the middle will sit out or vote for Joepedo.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (5RO7A)


A ton of guys were very conservative at the state level and when they got to DC, jumped on the uni-party bandwagon. That is exactly my point. It's happened again and again and again. And, DeSantis is surrounding himself with a lot of GOPe guys in this campaign. Maybe he'll turn out great, but I have serious doubts. Look - if he's the nominee, I'll probably vote for him If any other GOP person gets the nominee other than Trump or DeSantis - I doubt I'll even bother to vote b/c it would be pointless. I agree, there is some hope with Desantis. Trump has mostly proven himself to me. And anyone believing that DeSantis won't be turned into the next H**tler by the left and media if he gets the nod is a fool.

Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (ky+MF)

334 .







.

Senator Fetterman's statement in opposition to Senator Mitch McConnell today.

Posted by: rd at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (NeuC5)

335 What shit did Joe say at 1 PM? More platitudes?

Posted by: Archer at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (gmo/4)

336 Playboy has reportedly cut ties with OnlyFans model and former porn star Mia Khalifa in response to her openly celebrating the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel.

Posted by: SMOD at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (RHGPo)

337 Miss me yet?
Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at October 10, 2023 01:53 PM (l10hq)


Not in the fucking least.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (r9a0/)

338 did Biden read his prepared remarks yet? Had to go take the dog for walk .........

Posted by: Ferd berfall at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (0vFtj)

339 Not anymore. I'm IWB because I want a larger pistol for larger rounds, greater capacity, and longer range.
Posted by: bonhomme

I went shopping in my nearby village yesterday. Shoulder holster with the G19 and 2 spare mags. I had someone comment, " wow, how many guns do you need?" I told him I only have one gun. Those are spare magazines on the other side. He then asked if I had enough bullets. My response was, " the only way I would know that is if my gun came out of the holster and I walked away and the bad guy was lying on the ground." He had no response. I couldn't tell if he was being snarky and I didn't care. I actually had 2 guns because my pea shooter was in my pocket but that's nobody's business but mine.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (qj8+t)

340 Playboy has reportedly cut ties with OnlyFans model and former porn star Mia Khalifa

**************

OH NOOO!!!!!!

Anyway

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Dreaming of Lauren Boebert's Sweater Puppies at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (VTu1l)

341 321 There are many efforts to clean up the electoral system. There have also been numerous victories. Trump has zero to do with them. He hasn't put any money into the ones making progress. None. Why is that? He's the self proclaimed party leader. Are we to believe his lack of engagement is so he can push an immaterial slogan of the stolen election? This should be our total and complete focus especially in swing states. That's where we need to build electoral margins, and it's where Trump consistently gets beaten.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2023 01:52 PM (oUoKb)

========

Holy shit. You just said nothing was being done, and then you turn around, point out some pocket cases, and rest back on "Trump didn't have anything to do with it."

Okay. I'm not here to defend Trump.

What is happening in PA to prevent them from sending out 250,000 ballots illegally? Or from Detroit of saying there are 1000 ballots in a box with 10? Or from Arizona from simply turning off signature verification...again?

Answer the question: Which candidate can beat it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (LvTSG)

342 NEW: Internal CBP data provided & confirmed by CBP sources reveals thousands of “special interest aliens” from mostly Middle Eastern countries have been apprehended by Border Patrol while crossing into U.S. illegally over last 2 years.

Syria: 538
Yemen: 139
Iran: 659
Iraq: 123
Afghanistan: 6,386
Lebanon: 164
Egypt: 3,153
Pakistan: 1,613
Mauritania: 15,594
Uzbekistan: 13,624
Turkey: 30,830

Date range 10/1/2021 - 10/4/2023

https://tinyurl.com/63tt5n8w
Posted by: redridinghood at October 10, 2023 01:48 PM (NpAcC)

And those are just the ones that interacted with BP. There's no telling how many have made it across unchecked.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (BdMk6)

343 It's seems selfish and egotistical. In fact it seems like he's fighting for himself not "us".

It's always been about himself. He just had policy goals I agreed with. Plus, he did manage to tear all the masks off and we all got a front-row seat to see how the sausage is made in DC.

Posted by: Halfhand at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (E+3bw)

344 Hey, when I wanted to vote for Cruz, I had to end up voting for your guy.

I just happened to like the outcome a lot more than I thought I would.

Stop whining.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (krQz2)

345 18 Ha.

Unvetted.

Posted by: Mushroom Stamp at October 10, 2023 01:06 PM (VpCCm)

----
And there I thought they had all gone to the Southern Hemisphere.

Posted by: Ciampino - prayer rug-bomb the area around the mosques at October 10, 2023 01:56 PM (qfLjt)

346 Because we are trying to be friends to all. We need to pick a side. And Israel is part of the West, so that should be the side.

The Middle East would be a very different place had we simply supported Israel and ignored the rest.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2023 01:34 PM (3Gtis)


Truth. And all this would have been easier had we aggressively promoted domestic energy production since oil, hummus, and suicide bombers are about the only things the ME (excluding Israel) produces.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 10, 2023 01:56 PM (GYIa4)

347
Egypt: 3,153

When my wife was in assisted living an elderly Egyptian Christian resident begged her to never visit Egypt because in his words, 'They all hate Christians'.

It's not a question of 'if' at this point, but 'when'.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 01:56 PM (enJYY)

348 If the bombing of escape routes is true, then I agree with your assessment. Hamas isn't going to give up their human shields.
Posted

...

They only chance they have of Israel stopping is the body count getting too high. Can't let the masses leave.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 10, 2023 01:56 PM (nMZ1y)

349 Let's party like it's November 4, 1979 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd berfall at October 10, 2023 01:56 PM (0vFtj)

350 Brooke Goldstein
@GoldsteinBrooke
I’ve been warning about the pro terror groups on US college campuses for at least a decade. Now finally will Americans wake up and rid our academia of this sickness because the terror will, and has come to our shores. This is the greatest national security threat we face as Americans, the infiltration of our school systems with Islamist genocidal ideology. They are radicalizing your children!!!

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 01:56 PM (TGPs7)

351 You could just stop that sentence right there. Despite Trump's issues as a candidate which are not in the least inconsequential, the thing that truly makes him unattractive as a candidate is the conduct of his supporters. It is they who routinely make Trump a hard sell to the middle he has to win.
Posted by: mikethemoose at October 10, 2023 01:43 PM (AmpGx)

===
This may be the stupidest thing I've read this week.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 01:56 PM (RIvkX)

352 2.if a majority of Jews do not think it matters why should anybody else;


BECAUSE THERE IS RIGHT AND WRONG, GOOD AND EVIL. MEN OF GOOD CHARACTER SHOULD ALWAYS FIGHT EVIL AND PROTECT INNOCENT LIFE.

Posted by: Archer at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (gmo/4)

353 @342

>>What is happening in PA to prevent them from sending out 250,000 ballots illegally?

As I've opined, I am a newly minted resident of Pa, I've probably already voted in the 2024 election.

I just hope I voted for a good candidate.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (rc3Z7)

354
They're against us when it comes to terrorism and Islamism. They're also against us (meaning: official establishment US policy) when it comes to Russia. In which cases are they actually with us?

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:33 PM (KRtlO

Turkey sits on some incredibly strategic real estate, probably more important than the location of any other single country in NATO. (that's why the Byzantines were based there)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (S6gqv)

355 If Israel does not think it matters why should America;

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 01:54 PM (RjBju)

Israel does not think it matters?
I have no idea where you are getting that from

And American Jews, the left wings I have talked to, are starting to wake up from this.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (pVWRI)

356 ace=jim cramer
Posted by: Blazer at October 10, 2023 01:51 PM

Ace= someone who wants to win an election. He's right. I won't speak for him, but I would assume he will vote for him if he's the nominee. I will. But I don't think Trump is our best shot. I think Desantis is. I am not sure why people here are so against him. Look at how he's RDS governed. Are we all going to agree with everything a politician will do? Fuck no. But Trump cannot win the middle. He's unlikeable and as much as I don't care about that. THEY do. Meaning we end up with a fucking corpse in a suit again. We all have the same goals here people. It's not a crime to say who you think best gives us that chance.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (5RO7A)

357 If you make your case for DeSantis to enough Pubs, then fine he becomes the nominee and I vote for him. He's not McCain, so I don't have to go elsewhere.

But poll after poll also has shown that a bunch of these guys just don't have the ethnic vote that Trump seems to. ¯\_(ツ_/¯

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (krQz2)

358 345 Hey, when I wanted to vote for Cruz, I had to end up voting for your guy.
I just happened to like the outcome a lot more than I thought I would.
Stop whining.
Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (krQz2)

How I feel. Although since then Cruz has, at times, been disappointing, like his take on J6.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (ynpvh)

359 Remember!!!! Barry O attended and participated in his buddy's (Khalid Rashidi's) going away dinner from Chicago to professorship at Columbia Univ (where Barry went to undergrad). He participated in Death to Israel chants there. The anti-semitism was thick.
And... an LA Times reporter has the video of the event...but suppressed it. BARRY is a Jew Hater.

Posted by: jb at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (U6utT)

360 Well I don't think I said that but I certainly thought Trump would lose... though I did back him strongly.

Almost everyone thought he would lose, of course, including most of his supporters.....

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2023 01:48 PM (KRtlO)


Revisionist history. I supported Trump but was sure he would lose to Hillary. I was wrong.

But the loss of the Presidency, Congress, and SCOTUS bit? Almost a direct quote from you. And you were pissed at all of us, and said YOU were quitting the blog, and voting for Hillary. I had the link, I should have bookmarked it.

You can look it up. And you have the stats. What happened to readership after 2016? 2020?

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (dWjpk)

361 >>Look at how Desantis has governed. Then get back to me. Yep I'll vote for Trump. But I think we get destroyed because Trump cannot win indy's and swing voters this time. Trump motivates the left and the middle will sit out or vote for Joepedo.

I truly don't get this. DeSantis supporters have been saying since before he entered the race that he would crush Trump as soon as he got in. That clearly did not happen and Ron is even losing in FL by double digits in virtually every poll. Find one where he isn't that isn't sponsored by his campaign.

And Trump is now ahead of Biden in virtually every poll and increasing his advantage while Biden is starting to sink under the weight of his horrible policies which aren't going to get any better. Everyone is feeling the bite of Joe's economy and nobody is happy about it. Nobody. Not even Democrats let alone independents. Most don't really care for war either.

The only way Trump can't beat Biden is through cheating and that is the same with every candidate who any of us would care about.

I'd vote for Ron but he has proven to be not ready for prime time. That's just reality.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (ZLI7S)

362 re: 360: the going away dinner was in 2003.

Posted by: jb at October 10, 2023 01:58 PM (U6utT)

363 Today's Forcast for Gaza is 70,000 Degrees and Partly Cloudy...........

Posted by: Isreali Weather Channel at October 10, 2023 01:58 PM (0vFtj)

364 Bidenomics: National Debt Increases By Another Half-Trillion In Just 20 Days

...every American taxpayer is on the hook for $258,257.

Posted by: SMOD at October 10, 2023 01:58 PM (RHGPo)

365 >>>Maybe DeSantis supporters could call Trump supporters a cult more. Than seems to be working out swimmingly.


It's not the cult mentality that really hurts Trump. Devoted followers are always a good thing. It's the open lying to cover for Trump's numerous errors. Trump's issue is he often speaks his mind before he uses it. Trump supporters error is defending obvious mistakes. I mean Trump's platform is pretty moderate.

1. Conservative Supreme Court not legislating from the bench.
2. Control the southern border before we no longer have a country.
3. Pro US manufacturing trade policy.
4. Much less US military intervention on the world stage.
5. Reduce the size and spending of government.

I mean that's an attractive platform. Extremely moderate. Yet Trump supporters do a terrible job selling it to the people that frankly want to buy exactly that.

Trump supporters would have a hard time selling air conditioners in Phoenix because while they are talking up how wonderful the company that makes air conditioners is, they never actually tell you that they are trying to sell you an air conditioner.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 10, 2023 01:58 PM (AmpGx)

366 309 For once, you know what I'm not seeing?

Breathless reports with furrowed brows darkly intoning we must be vigilant against a backlash against Muslims.

Yet.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (a+vXW)

///"
Yep. I heard this "I hope no backlash against Muslims" plea about 10am on 9/11


Posted by: JM in Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 10, 2023 01:46 PM (LhtZu)

Yup. It's coming. CAIR will kick it off.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 10, 2023 01:50 PM (BdMk6)


A few Islamic centers and mosques will be vandalized and burned-down. The FBI will not be able to find any clues. The surveillance cameras at the locations will have all failed the day before. The roundup of white Christian usual suspects will begin.

Posted by: GL at October 10, 2023 01:58 PM (5fDan)

367 Other than that. I want out.
Posted by: nurse ratched

And yet here we are. Stay safe and vigilant NR. You and the other morons on the other side of the state are never far from my thoughts.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 10, 2023 01:58 PM (qj8+t)

368 Hey, when I wanted to vote for Cruz, I had to end up voting for your guy.

I was for Cruz in the 2015 GOP primary until he went soft on the border and illegals during his campaign. And, before everyone rushes to correct me, yes he did. He played the game where he said he was "against amnesty" but he defined "amnesty" as "making illegals citizens immediately". He was for some kind of legalization. B/c he bought into the idea that Hispanics wouldn't vote for someone who didn't pander to the illegals.

Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 10, 2023 01:59 PM (ky+MF)

369 Ace,

I barely read the comments anymore.

The Trump vs. Desantis/whomever is bad enough, but the big turnoff is the pervasive black-pilling.

It wasn't always this way.

Posted by: Harlock at October 10, 2023 01:59 PM (83thu)

370 This may be the stupidest thing I've read this week.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 01:56 PM (RIvkX)

I'll second that.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 10, 2023 01:59 PM (Mzdiz)

371 Benny Johnson @bennyjohnson 1h
WATCH: Trump predicts war in Israel 2 MONTHS AGO after Joe Biden’s disaster deal with Iran

https://tinyurl.com/39dfma3v
3:52 minutes but just 17 seconds to 30 seconds for PDT in clip montage of prisoner "exchange" and $6-billion deal.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 01:59 PM (krqg6)

372 Quick question for those of you rightly enraged at Muzzie support protests in Europe and US:

When Israel "turns Gaza into glass", creating the greatest refugee "crisis" in ME since Israel's founding, what happens to the Palis?

There are about 600,000 Palis crowded into Gaza. Let's say Israel is able to kill 100,000 of them before world opinion puts a stop to the genocide.

That leaves 500,000+ homeless Palis.

Who's going to take them? Israel wants them out. The Arab states don't want them. Asia and Africa won't take them. That leaves Europe and America.

You think the same people who chimped over Trump's Muslim ban (Left and Right) won't welcome them with open arms? What about the Pope? Jonathan Greenblatt and the ADL? Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney?

When our local Muzzies start slaughtering locals to avenge our support for "our only ally in the ME", I guess they'll blame "white supremacy" and anti-Semitic Trumpers, like they always do.

What then, Keyboard Krusaders? Calls to reduce "Dearbornistan" to glass?

Posted by: Joseph K at October 10, 2023 02:00 PM (WWBWe)

373 What is happening in PA to prevent them from sending out 250,000 ballots illegally? Or from Detroit of saying there are 1000 ballots in a box with 10? Or from Arizona from simply turning off signature verification...again?

Answer the question: Which candidate can beat it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Nothing. The AG in 2020 is now governor. He didn't give a fuck then, doesn't give a fuck now. He'll ensure the fraud.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 10, 2023 02:00 PM (CBBR5)

374 359 Remember!!!! Barry O attended and participated in his buddy's (Khalid Rashidi's) going away dinner from Chicago to professorship at Columbia Univ (where Barry went to undergrad). He participated in Death to Israel chants there. The anti-semitism was thick.
And... an LA Times reporter has the video of the event...but suppressed it. BARRY is a Jew Hater.

Posted by: jb at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (U6utT)

He was raised as a muslim in indonesia.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 10, 2023 02:00 PM (ynpvh)

375 we could detonate them in place.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October

...

They're old anyway. Let's make new ones.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 10, 2023 02:00 PM (nMZ1y)

376 Kind of interesting that everything Trump wanted to do is now the only thing left to do. Sparky is a master mind. Three-dimensional chess champion.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 02:00 PM (Wg6v7)

377 I mean, maybe, and surely the response would be better, but you guys tend to credit Trump for doing the shit that ANY normal mainstream Republican would do. As if any ol' Establishment Republican wouldn't support Israel. Lindsey Graham is calling for the US to bomb Iran!


In fairness, I think most mainstream Republicans would vote for bombing anyone.

Israel gets strong support for that position because there is such clear juxtaposition between Arab savages and a seemingly civilized western society,

But have no doubt, there are a very short list of countries that the Republican Party isn't willing to go to war with at the drop of a hat or send in the NGOs and CIA to incite civil war. I mean shit, we've got Samantha Power over stirring shit up in Hungary and Poland and they are more conservative than any American could dream of.

If there is a peculiar feature to Trump, it's that he didn't want to start wars. He listened to his enemies and brokered deals where America got something back in return for agreeing not to f*ck them w/ a barbed-wire wrapped baseball bat.

That is a unique feature that I don't think any President in my lifetime has accomplished.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (P/g7H)

378 And lest I be accused of deifying Trump - thats some strawman stuff that is beneath all of us. I am quite Trump skeptical. I think whoever it was that foisted Wray on us as FBI director should be held accountable.

But at the same time, I am with Tucker Carlson on whether we allow the Deep State to tell us who is an acceptable candidate or not. Let's be clear: this is not okay.

Still, this squabbling here between us who are nominally on the same side (except for you stinking RINO squishes!) is misplaced while the world is going to shit.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (dWjpk)

379 Trump is a "hard sell" for one main reason: propaganda.

I have a lot against the way Trump has reverted to campaigning. And I don't really have this against DeSantis.

But what I have against DeSantis-camp is that they cite Trump's "unpopularity" as if there is nothing wrong with the way that Trump became unpopular.

Screw you people.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (krQz2)

380 nood -doj covering for Joe

Posted by: GL at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (5fDan)

381 BLM is excusing Hamas behavior

BLM must be classified as a terrorist group and jailed and all their funds siezed

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (pVWRI)

382
BECAUSE THERE IS RIGHT AND WRONG, GOOD AND EVIL. MEN OF GOOD CHARACTER SHOULD ALWAYS FIGHT EVIL AND PROTECT INNOCENT LIFE.

Posted by: Archer

Yeah, the thing is we cannot fight every war everywhere, we have to fight the wars that matter and be sure that evil does not get here.

If the guys getting murdered do not see that there's an issue the we should not get involved

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (RjBju)

383 Answer the question: Which candidate can beat it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (LvTSG)

F*ck...you don't even have to go that far. Just ask, "Which candidate has even the barest outline of a plan?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (3Gtis)

384 I will vote for the candidate who promises to lead the people of PA in a forced oversight of the Philly counting rooms.

Like, literally lead. From the back of a horse.

Bonus for Civil War beard.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (LvTSG)

385 DeSantis wears lift boots. I cannot vote for a man that wears lift boots.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2023 02:02 PM (l10hq)

386
Cassandra MacDonald

@CassandraRules
·
2m
Dont fall for babies in incubators again.

To quote Assange, "every war in the last 50 years has been started by lies."

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 02:02 PM (TGPs7)

387 Biden Tells Americans To Book Their Own Flights Out Of Israel Hours After Airlines Announced Mass Cancellations

.. this "Biden" guy really is a useless dick

Posted by: SMOD at October 10, 2023 02:02 PM (RHGPo)

388 383 Answer the question: Which candidate can beat it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (LvTSG)

F*ck...you don't even have to go that far. Just ask, "Which candidate has even the barest outline of a plan?"
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (3Gtis)

=======

They have secret plans! Trust them! Donate today!

5x match!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 02:02 PM (LvTSG)

389 He participated in Death to Israel chants there. The anti-semitism was thick.
----------------
Odd, that his first two recruiters, groomers and financial backers were Jennifer Pritzker and Bill Ayers.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 02:02 PM (Wg6v7)

390 In before the Trump Wars!

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 10, 2023 02:02 PM (Zy3Bo)

391 How TF did this devolve into a Trump versus DeSantis thread? Ace didn't bring up either in the post. Seems like a lot of people were itching to argue with ace and had to Bogart the thread.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at October 10, 2023 02:02 PM (pIx7m)

392 Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (RjBju)


I guess you have a shit character, then.

Posted by: Archer at October 10, 2023 02:03 PM (gmo/4)

393 Nood.

The Big Guy.

(not Frank Biden, that's for sure)

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 10, 2023 02:03 PM (vGg/o)

394 383 Answer the question: Which candidate can beat it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 10, 2023 01:55 PM (LvTSG)

F*ck...you don't even have to go that far. Just ask, "Which candidate has even the barest outline of a plan?"
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2023 02:01 PM (3Gtis)

Nobody. So having established that the Republican candidate will lose the 2024 presidential election, what is the most beneficial way to lose it?

Martyrdom + not alienating the working class with the appearance of doing a D style rigged primary are both strong selling points for Trump in my book.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 02:03 PM (eYoxG)

395 How often do you need to have a holocaust to be reminded that some want to murder your family?

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 02:03 PM (RjBju)

396 375 we could detonate them in place.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October

...

They're old anyway. Let's make new ones.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 10, 2023 02:00 PM (nMZ1y)

Bonus: Help meet any existing SALT treaty.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 10, 2023 02:03 PM (ynpvh)

397 My county council threats us with hate crime laws for alleged bad word speak and, yet, I can walk to this beautiful university where Obama had hoped to attend:

Students for Justice in Palestine at @swarthmore “honors the martyrs” and calls for more indiscriminate killings of Jews. According to them, Nazi-like murders are justified by the existence of the Jewish people.

Posted by: L - it's only 5 1/2 hours from his home to East Palestine OH at October 10, 2023 02:04 PM (vubS5)

398 391 How TF did this devolve into a Trump versus DeSantis thread? Ace didn't bring up either in the post. Seems like a lot of people were itching to argue with ace and had to Bogart the thread.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at October 10, 2023 02:02 PM (pIx7m)

ace picked up on a post by Maj. Healey and it spiraled out of control from there.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 02:04 PM (eYoxG)

399 What if DeSantis gets the Trump treatment in the general?

Can I then just cite DeSantis' "unpopularity" or "people generally feel he's a closet Nazi" to you?

If he loses, can I just cite "oh well, he was unpopular" to you?

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2023 02:04 PM (krQz2)

400 Turkey sits on some incredibly strategic real estate, probably more important than the location of any other single country in NATO. (that's why the Byzantines were based there)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM (S6gqv)

Turkey is a very strange country with some even stranger demographics and religious mixes. It's probably more cosmopolitan than even Western Europe.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 10, 2023 02:04 PM (BdMk6)

401 guess you have a shit character, then.
Posted by: Archer

So what are you doing about it then

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 02:04 PM (RjBju)

402 But I do notice you guys keep going back to a single election, 2016, and never cite the election results in 2018, 2020, and 2022.
---
Cited:
2016-- unprecedented over 50 Republican House members do not seek reelection while the House Leader hobbles Trump by sitting on sworn testimony that the Russian collusion was a hoax, letting the "inquiry" continue
Trump's fault.
2020 --having successfully lost the House on purpose, having been impeached twice, the Republicans in AZ, GA, PA, MI and WI sit idly by as not only are the election rules illegally changed but also letting the cheat stand.
Trump's fault.
2022 -- The House, led by the now highest ranking elected Republican, develops no agenda to counter Biden, no platform for candidates, conspires with McConnell to kneecap and prevent non-approved candidates from winning by withholding funds, endorsements and resources.
Trump's fault.

Neat little game there. Trump has his fault but not everything is his fault.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 02:04 PM (a+vXW)

403 Biden Tells Americans To Book Their Own Flights Out Of Israel Hours After Airlines Announced Mass Cancellations

.. this "Biden" guy really is a useless dick

Posted by: SMOD at October 10, 2023 02:02 PM (RHGPo)

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Can't you at least get them military passage to Bagram Airfield?

Oh, wait ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 10, 2023 02:05 PM (Zy3Bo)

404 "That leaves 500,000+ homeless Palis.

Who's going to take them? "

I hear their leaders are already in Qatar. Let Qatar take them in.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 10, 2023 02:05 PM (ou9hh)

405 James, I thought you were moving. I saw a bit of The Brothers Grimm and a couple of snippets of Train to Busan this weekend. I really liked the little I saw of The Brothers Grimm. Any movie thoughts on either of these?

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 02:05 PM (Wg6v7)

406 *It's time to deploy the left's cancellation and doxing tactics. Everyone signing statements like these should have their names recorded, publicized, and sent to all employers. And we should demand the employers agree to never hire them.*

Wait, like, wut? Does that mean, like, I'm out of a job now . Damn it!

Posted by: Ex-Pr0nStar Mia "Pro-Jihad" Khalifa at October 10, 2023 02:05 PM (PJaTp)

407 This war for Israel really needs two separate actions:

1)Immediate, ruthless destruction in Gaza. Let the Palis know anyone in that territory will be killed and give them a narrow corridor to escape. They will no longer be allowed to live there.

The Israelis are hoping to do this without violence, by starving them out and getting them to leave voluntarily. Then taking over the region. But, this slow action gives the Palis and Iranians, etc time for countermeasures that will lead to more jaw/jaw and no changes.

Act now on that front and be as ruthless as possible.because they always have a way to escape if they wish.(narrow corridor, yo!)

2) The Iranian Front - this will take more planning, so at bit of extra time is fine. Just make sure the response is devastating. Sabotage/destroy power plants, oil refineries, oil fields/pipeline, destroy dams which hold water for drinking and farming. If they can take out, the Supreme Council or whatever they're called with a bombing run, they should do it.

The Palis are Iran's dog. time for the master to get multiple kicks to the balls for his dog's behavior.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2023 02:06 PM (QzZeQ)

408 I don't have a rosy outlook on 2024.
Elections are a mess in most of the states.
Nothing has improved, a couple of voter rolls have been cleaned up, that's all. We will still have "election season", mail in ballots, unconfirmed voters, 2000 enrolled voters living in the same vacant lot, ballot harvesting, etc. Plus a leading candidate facing 91 indictments, some of which will lead to convictions.
Third world type stuff.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 10, 2023 02:06 PM (MeG8a)

409
Bella Wallersteiner 🇺🇦
@BellaWallerstei
Jewish schoolchildren in north London are being told not to wear their blazers if they are afraid for their safety. No child in the UK, no matter of what faith or non, should ever be afraid to go to school. We must do more to protect the Jewish community.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 02:07 PM (TGPs7)

410 "Students for Justice in Palestine at @swarthmore “honors the martyrs” and calls for more indiscriminate killings of Jews. According to them, Nazi-like murders are justified by the existence of the Jewish people."

Deport them to Palestine, and let them demonstrate the courage of their convictions.

5 to 1 they end up exactly like those concert goers.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 10, 2023 02:07 PM (ou9hh)

411 According to them, Nazi-like murders are justified by the existence of the Jewish people."
---------------------
Well, this makes sense.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 02:08 PM (Wg6v7)

412 "404 "That leaves 500,000+ homeless Palis.

Who's going to take them? "

I hear their leaders are already in Qatar. Let Qatar take them in."

Excellent answer, Featherbrain. Well thought out.

Who's gonna make them?

Posted by: Joseph K at October 10, 2023 02:08 PM (WWBWe)

413 >>ace picked up on a post by Maj. Healey and it spiraled out of control from there.

Which is odd because despite what ace said Maj. Healey doesn't like Trump and makes that clear in virtually every thread.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)

414 Calm down up there, I'm only 30 something points behind Drumpf in every poll!

Posted by: Ron DeSantis at October 10, 2023 02:08 PM (PJaTp)

415 404 "That leaves 500,000+ homeless Palis.

Who's going to take them? "

I hear their leaders are already in Qatar. Let Qatar take them in.


qatar solo!

Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2023 02:09 PM (oY6Yp)

416 Too late but...

DC_Draino @DC_Draino 38m
Nothing to see here

Just a May 2022 article from the Washington Free Beacon exposing the Biden regime unfreezing $360 million earmarked for Palestine in 2021

Trump froze it & there was peace

Biden unfroze it & now Israel has suffered its worst terror attack

Do you know how many rockets you can buy with $360 million?!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 02:09 PM (krqg6)

417 Maggie Chapman MSP
@MaggieChapman
What’s happening in #Palestine is a consequence of #Apartheid, of illegal occupation,m & of imperial aggression by the Israel state. Palestinian civilians have seen their homes destroyed, their water stolen & their land appropriated illegally.
#GazaUnderAttack
#VivaPalestine

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 02:10 PM (TGPs7)

418 Putting aside a DeSantis vs. Trump argument, I think a lot of Trump supporters are cemented in their support for him for a number of reasons: 1) how unfairly he was treated by the media and deep state during his administration - which is also a huge slap in the face to the people who elected him. It was essentially saying to us that our votes don't matter and we don't get to pick the president. We want payback for that. 2) following along on "1", the illegality of much of what people did to stymie Trump's admin - once again, saying the rule of law only applies to some people and not others (which the GOP went and goes along with). 3) the persecution of Trump since then. 4) the persecution of Trump supporters.

We want revenge and payback. We know that no other GOP candidate will even attempt to deliver either. We know no other GOP candidate will pursue criminal prosecution of Wray, et al. We know no other GOP candidate will try to fight the deep state.

Sure, it is in large part emotional. But it is also about extremely important principles. rule of law. Democracy.

What Trump represents is important even if Trump himself is flawed.

Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at October 10, 2023 02:10 PM (ky+MF)

419 Posted by: Joseph K at October 10, 2023 02:00 PM (WWBWe)

===
Something tells me you failed debate Mr. Strawman.

You don't even have the facts correct.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 02:11 PM (RIvkX)

420 We want revenge and payback.
-------------------
To summarize, we want a restoration. A lot of little Cromwell's need their skulls nailed to the DOJ wall.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 02:13 PM (Wg6v7)

421 At the pro-terrorism rally at Harvard:
I don't know who Kassy Dillon is, a reporter I guess. I'm being pedantic but it is one of my pet peeves:
The plural of Israeli is Israelis and not with an apostrophe.

Posted by: Ciampino - apologies for highlighting a grammatical error but it's a reporter at October 10, 2023 02:13 PM (qfLjt)

422 Vote:

Biden dies?

Biden Impeached?

SMOD?

Which thing will happen first?
Posted by: Archer at October 10, 2023 02:11 PM (gmo/4)


None of the above. SMOD has forsaken us, only the good die young, and not even all the Republicans would vote to impeach because they're treasonous pieces of trash.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 10, 2023 02:13 PM (GYIa4)

423 Two US carrier groups closing in on the Middle East. Ground war in Gaza two days away. House to house warfare expected.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 02:11 PM (enJYY)


Ford and which other one?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 10, 2023 02:14 PM (GYIa4)

424 Do you know how many rockets you can buy with $360 million?!
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 02:09 PM (krqg6)

Homemade rockets are cheap but still deadly. Just a fraction of that $360 million would build a lot of muzzie rockets.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 10, 2023 02:14 PM (BdMk6)

425 Why, Mr. Ace, are both you and Sundunce of the Conservative Nuthouse both shilling for Israel in this situation? Of course, to the extent war reporting can be accurate, any atrocities by the Palestinians is morally wrong.
But let us not pretend the Israelis have not committed literal war crimes in their treatment of people whose land and homes were stolen generations ago. That tends to invite antipathy.
And let us not forget all the harm Israel has visited on the U.S, with their U.S. Liberty actions and deforming U. S. political institutions with their espionage and influence peddling.
A person does not have to be antisemitic to recognize Israel has not been a force for good for America. Let them and their enemies have at it. Like the Ukraine, we have no material interest in either side's victory.

Posted by: J. R. Chloupek at October 10, 2023 02:14 PM (USIwB)

426 This 36 groups at Harvard thing. Harvard isn't that big. Some 6000 undergrads. I can't imagine that the number of Premed Bangladeshis or whatever is that big. 0I suspect a lot of overlap in the membership of the 36 groups. I suspect that some of them simply do not exist.

Its just more propaganda. Thing is, it works. Ooh, look, smart people at Harvard have this thing to say.

Its all an op.
Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 01:12 PM (dWjpk)
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This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2023 02:14 PM (YqDXo)

427 "419 Posted by: Joseph K at October 10, 2023 02:00 PM (WWBWe)

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Something tells me you failed debate Mr. Strawman.

You don't even have the facts correct."

So, enlighten me.

You could at least post a link to JewishEncyclopedia.com. They have all the facts.

Posted by: Joseph K at October 10, 2023 02:16 PM (WWBWe)

428 I can vote for either Trump or DeSantis quite happily and I will.

But, this is a silly game of choosing sides if DeSantis cannot beat Trump for the nomination.

If he can't beat Trump then he doesn't deserve to be the candidate. Period. And mostly because if Trump is as weak as we keep hearing and DeSantis can't beat weak Trump...well, then he sure as hell won't win nationally.

A plan by the Reps for clean voting would be nice but we're not going to get that unless someone maybe like Nikki Haley is the candidate or some other GOPe fave.

So, massive voting is the only hope. Make the Dims have to cheat hugely. So, hugely that the cheat is obvious to even the most blinkered, Democratiest Democrat. And then let's see how the dice fall.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2023 02:16 PM (QzZeQ)

429 But let us not pretend the Israelis have not committed literal war crimes in their treatment of people whose land and homes were stolen generations ago.
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Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2023 02:16 PM (YqDXo)

430 Two US carrier groups closing in on the Middle East. Ground war in Gaza two days away. House to house warfare expected.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 02:11 PM (enJYY)

Ford and which other one?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 10, 2023 02:14 PM (GYIa4)

I like the idea of a siege much more. Make the Palis crawl before the Jews begging for mercy.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 10, 2023 02:18 PM (BdMk6)

431 What’s happening in #Palestine is a consequence of #Apartheid, of illegal occupation,m & of imperial aggression by the Israel state. Palestinian civilians have seen their homes destroyed, their water stolen & their land appropriated illegally.
#GazaUnderAttack
#VivaPalestine
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 02:10 PM (TGPs7)
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Fuck this bitch AND "Palestine."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2023 02:20 PM (YqDXo)

432 But I do notice you guys keep going back to a single election, 2016, and never cite the election results in 2018, 2020, and 2022.
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Cited:
2016-- unprecedented over 50 Republican House members do not seek reelection while the House Leader hobbles Trump by sitting on sworn testimony that the Russian collusion was a hoax, letting the "inquiry" continue
Trump's fault.
2020 --having successfully lost the House on purpose, having been impeached twice, the Republicans in AZ, GA, PA, MI and WI sit idly by as not only are the election rules illegally changed but also letting the cheat stand.
Trump's fault.
2022 -- The House, led by the now highest ranking elected Republican, develops no agenda to counter Biden, no platform for candidates, conspires with McConnell to kneecap and prevent non-approved candidates from winning by withholding funds, endorsements and resources.
Trump's fault.

Neat little game there. Trump has his fault but not everything is his fault.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at
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This.

Posted by: So nice it's posted twice at October 10, 2023 02:21 PM (FB14j)

433 The uniparty decides your choices.

Posted by: So nice it's posted twice at October 10, 2023 02:21 PM (FB14j)

434 "That leaves 500,000+ homeless Palis.

Who's going to take them? "

I hear their leaders are already in Qatar Catarrh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2023 02:22 PM (YqDXo)

435 Hezbollturds gonna join in and Armageddon here we come.

Posted by: So you got carrier battlegroups on route at October 10, 2023 02:23 PM (FB14j)

436 I'd vote for Ron but he has proven to be not ready for prime time. That's just reality.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 01:57 PM

You cited polls and his current 2nd place to Trump. But not his actual governance.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2023 02:24 PM (5RO7A)

437 "434 "That leaves 500,000+ homeless Palis.

Who's going to take them? "

I hear their leaders are already in Qatar Catarrh."

And?

Posted by: Joseph K at October 10, 2023 02:24 PM (WWBWe)

438 When is Iran going to be more flush with cash and arms than now? If you don't pray already you should start 🙏

Posted by: So you got carrier battlegroups on route at October 10, 2023 02:24 PM (FB14j)

439 Thanks to Biden and his junta's lack of immigration control, I imagine there is a quite sizable force of hamas already in the USA.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 10, 2023 02:26 PM (17s+e)

440 You cited polls and his current 2nd place to Trump. But not his actual governance
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Muh bad. I'm sure the MSM will take care of fully and fairly informing the mushy middle of American re same.

Posted by: You are re arranging the deck chairs, we hit bottom already at October 10, 2023 02:27 PM (FB14j)

441 Biden speaking about nothing.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 10, 2023 02:28 PM (lf83v)

442 Empty platitudes.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 10, 2023 02:29 PM (lf83v)

443 Slurring words during a military crisis is not a good look.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 10, 2023 02:30 PM (lf83v)

444 Two Hamas terrorists are killed in high-speed freeway shoot-out caught on camera as Israeli motorcycle cop chases them down while firing pistol
https://mol.im/a/12614607

Posted by: Ciampino - Only two? at October 10, 2023 02:31 PM (qfLjt)

445 "A voice in Rama was heard, lamentation and great mourning; Rachel bewailing her children and would not be comforted, because they are not."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 10, 2023 02:34 PM (8fpTj)

446 A dang it, I just saw that I'm 49 points behind Drumpf.

Maybe another AI fake of Trump smooching Fauci is in order

Posted by: Ron DeSantis at October 10, 2023 02:39 PM (PJaTp)

447 Somebody here yesterday or day before came up with the term "black herring", more or less the sharing of a misattributed video (like old terrorist vids from other incidents) or sensational but unverified headline (like this). The goal being that when it's shown to be false it discredits the larger narrative.

I actually am skeptical of this SPECIFIC atrocity mainly because the Palis themselves have gratuitously filmed and disseminated vids of all their gruesome acts. This one remains hearsay. The reports I have seen were not airtight.

Posted by: Bayesian Prior at October 10, 2023 02:42 PM (q1I67)

448 The national game of "Who goes knotsi" is lit AF. Swarthmore beating Harvard like a rented mule.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 10, 2023 02:46 PM (eggM4)

449 240 Here is the difference.
What is Hamas's military objective? What possible military objective can be achieved by killing civilians other than genocide?
This is not war. This is an existential battle.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 10, 2023 01:41 PM (t/2Uw)
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Correct: this one is for all the marbles. From Israel's perspective, all the world is against it. First, Gaza must be reduced to rubble and all the inhabitants driven out or killed. All of them. That ends Hamas in Gaza, next deal with the West Bank: drive all the muzzies across the Jordan River into Jordan or kill them. All of them. Make it clear that any further actions instigated or financed against the Sovereign Territory of Israel, that which lies between the Med and Jordan River, will be met with overwhelming, death inducing force with no mercy.
This latest attack by the satan worshipping muzzies was the last straw. No more 'proportional response'. FAFO needs to be the order of the day.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 10, 2023 03:08 PM (JNTt1)

450 >>You cited polls and his current 2nd place to Trump. But not his actual governance.

Sure I did. That's why I said I would vote for him.

Now you do Trump's governance in the snake pit of DC, not the friendly legislature of Florida where Ron got whatever he wanted and even stuff he didn't want that he got credit for and tell me how he's going to do that in DC.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)

451 How about companies and individual clients start pulling their legal business from the private firms who are going to employ the Harvard idiots--time to hit them in the pocket book--every single firm who employs one of these should see an immediate exodus of clients

Posted by: rochf at October 10, 2023 04:21 PM (xwzCh)

452 Local gift basket supply is offered in Northeast PA, or go to our Main Street location in Forest City.

Posted by: Gift baskets for funeral at October 13, 2023 08:43 AM (oR9jP)

453 If you're successful in your software, then you can be invited to attend a citizenship ceremony, which you must attend inside 3 months of receiving the invitation or youll have to use again.

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