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The Morning Report — 10/10/23

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Good morning, kids. Take a good look at the videos and read the accounts of what has happened in Israel to unarmed men, women, children, the elderly and infirm. Beheadings, rapes, hostage-taking, torture, burning alive, shootings (if the victims are lucky) – a litany of the most barbaric savagery not seen in decades, yet standard operating procedure for this so-called "religion of peace" for the past 1,500-plus years. I'm not much of a fan of Ben Shapiro, but I have to admit that his description of this as "the worst day for Jews since the Holocaust" in which he states:

“These are terrorists who have no actual military agenda. Their only agenda is to murder as many Jews as possible…”

That is depressingly 1,000% accurate. And it exactly parallels the central war aim of Nazi Germany: the annihilation of every Jew it could get its hands on preceding global domination. CBD and I covered quite a bit of territory concerning this ongoing catastrophe in the latest episode of the podcast (here and in the sidebar)

Of course the subject of Iran as well as the incompetence and insanity of the Biden Junta's policies and actions loom large, despite said Junta's and its acolytes' attempts to obfuscate that and as per usual cast the blame squarely on the Israelis for refusing to allow themselves to finally Final Solution themselves courtesy of Schickelgruber's greater admirers.

In the week or so leading up to the attack, while we were all preoccupied with the ongoing political struggles and repression of the citizenry by the aforementioned Junta, a story centering around Iran and a central figure dealing with Iran policy, one Robert Malley, got understandably lost in the sauce. Evidently, Malley was placed on leave from his post as Biden's key national security adviser dealing with Iran amid an investigation into mishandling of classified documents.

Ironic, as in disgusting, that Donald Trump is in the process of being railroaded for this (among a host of other specious charges) while Biden remains untouched despite this being his stock-in-trade for decades. Considering that despite the smokescreen being put up to shield Iran from criticism, as Hamas is merely an Iranian proxy that they fund and train wholly or substantially, the $6 billion handed over by Biden to them in exchange for American hostages certainly puts a spotlight on Biden and company.

Here are just the bullet points about Robert Malley from his detailed dossier/rap sheet courtesy of Discover The Networks:

* Longtime official with the International Crisis Group

* Formerly served as President Bill Clinton’s Special Assistant for Arab-Israeli Affairs

* Son of Simon Malley, a key figure in the Egyptian Communist Party

* Blamed Israel for the failed Camp David peace negotiations with Yasser Arafat in 2000

* Has co-written a number of op-ed pieces with Hussein Agha, a former adviser to Arafat

* Consistently condemns Israel, exonerates Palestinians, urges U.S. disengagement from Israel, and recommends that America reach out to negotiate with its traditional Arab enemies

* Became foreign policy advisor to presidential candidate Barack Obama in 2007
* Was named by President Biden as special U.S. envoy for Iran in 2021

The rabidly Jew- and Israel-hating Malley was the co-author of the initial Obama-led Iran nuclear deal that despite its claims otherwise would have greased the wheels for an Iranian A-bomb. And in the immediate run-up to the Hamas mass attack, he was under investigation for leaking documents/secrets to Iran, the country that has direct control over Hamas.

Lest you think this fiend is a one-off, Jew-hatred and Israel-hatred runs through virtually every key figure in the Biden Junta. Because, let's face it, the Biden Junta is the front group for the Obama Junta. And we all know where he stands.

When it comes to Biden’s Middle-East policy, the president has diligently deployed skin-color racism to put a team of anti-Semites and supporters of the terrorist regimes in Teheran, the West Bank and Gaza in charge. Chief among them, of course is Susan Rice. In 2015, Rice publicly lauded the Iran nuclear deal as the “most comprehensive and effective” anti-nuclear agreement ever devised. She has continued to support the deal ever since. When President Trump withdrew the U.S. from the deal in 2018, for instance, Rice falsely stated that “Iran has fully complied with its obligations,” and that the inspections authorized by the deal were “the most intrusive international inspection and monitoring regime in history.”

. . . Biden’s new Administrator of USAID, Samantha Power, is a dedicated opponent of Israel. During a 2002 interview  Power said that even if it meant “alienating a domestic constituency of tremendous political and financial import” (i.e., Jewish Americans), the United States should stop investing “billions of dollars” in “servicing Israel’s military,” and should invest that money instead “in the new state of Palestine” – a regime (not a state) that annually invests hundreds of millions of dollars in terrorism against men, women and children in the Jewish state. . .

. . . Biden’s new Undersecretary of Defense,  Colin Kahl, co-drafted the language that attempted – ultimately without success – to omit from the 2012 Democratic Party platform any reference to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. In an August 2012 op-ed in Foreign Policy magazine, Kahl praised President Obama’s call to push Israel’s borders back to the 1949 Armistice lines, which would reward 70 years of Arab aggression and deprive Israel of defensible borders; to accept the creation of a Palestinian state governed by the terrorist organizations PLO and Hamas; and to reject the notion of Jerusalem as Israel’s undisputed capital. . .

. . . Biden’s new Under Secretary of State for Civilian Security, Democracy, and Human Rights, Uzra Zeya, is a former staffer at the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, a notoriously anti-Israel publication, where she compiled research for a book claiming that “the Israel lobby” had established a secret network of PACs that bribed and extorted congressional candidates into adopting positions favorable to Israel, thereby “subvert[ing] the American political process to take control of U.S. Middle East policy.”

. . . Wendy Sherman, Biden’s Deputy Secretary of State nominee, has referred to the late PLO leader Yasser Arafat, the world’s most prolific Jew-killer since Hitler, as “the leader of a resistance movement,” while minimizing the moral horrors of Palestinian suicide bombings against innocent Israeli civilians as “nagging disruptions from the Palestinian side.”

. . . Symone Sanders is the Senior Advisor and Chief Spokesperson to Vice President, Kamala Harris. Sanders was one of the 2020 Biden presidential campaign’s three senior advisers who apologized to radical Islamic organizations after Biden staffer Andrew Bates had tried to distance Biden from Linda Sarsour, a notorious Jew-hater who, despite supporting the Hamas-inspired Boycott, Divestment & Sanctions (BDS) movement and having ties to numerous Islamic terrorist organizations, was a featured speaker at the 2020 Democratic National Convention. . .

. . . Biden’s new Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken,  is opposed to designating Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as a foreign terrorist organization and imposing sanctions on it, even though The Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran established the IRGC explicitly to “strike terror into [the hearts of] the enemies of Allah” — meaning most prominently the U.S. and Israel — and to “expan[d] the sovereignty” of Islam across the globe. . .

. . . Biden’s new Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines, is a signatory to a J Street letter arguing that the Democratic Party platform should incorporate additional criticism of Israel. The letter also draws a moral equivalence between Palestinian terrorists and their victims, Israeli Jews, by employing the phrase “violence, terrorism, and incitement from ALL sides.” Further, the letter rejects the notion of Israeli and Jewish sovereign rights in the historically Jewish lands of Judea and Samaria, and accuses Israel of perpetrating an “occupation” of Palestinian land. . .

. . . Biden’s new Deputy Director of the White House Office of Legislative Affairs is Reema Dodin. In her student days at UC Berkeley, Dodin was a campus radical who organized a number of anti-Israel rallies. Among other things, she was a leader of the Muslim Students Association, a Muslim Brotherhood front. . .

. . . Biden’s new Senior Director for Intelligence Programs at the National Security Council is Maher Bitar. As a student at Georgetown University, Bitar was an executive board member of Students for Justice in Palestine, an organization that supports the Hamas terrorists and the BDS movement. . .

. . . Biden’s new Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Israel and Palestinian Affairs is Hady Amr. . .accused Israel engaging in the “ethnic cleansing” of Palestinians. Ethnic cleansing of Jews is of course the overt goal of the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, whereas more than a million Palestinians are Israeli citizens with more rights than the Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza.

In the past six months or so, as Netanyahu led a popular campaign to reform an Israeli judiciary that was completely unaccountable, and solidly leftist, Biden and other bad actors worked to foment BLM/Antifa style street protests against the government. Even before that, Obama's henchmen including Samantha Power worked to illegally influence Israeli elections in an attempt to oust Netanyahu and install a leftist self-gasser that would help grease the wheels of the Jewish state's destruction from within.

The Israeli left is as horrendous as our own, and the corrosive nature of their aims cannot be dismissed as a factor in Israel's complete unpreparedness. Worse, and more alarmingly is the potential for this influence to have reached into the most unimaginable areas: the Israeli intelligence services and the highest echelons of its military (sound familiar?) that have been at the forefront for safeguarding a nation surrounded by enemies. And with enemies within, both Muslim and leftist.

Psaki-psircling back to the barbarity, the estimable Daniel Greenfield nails it once again:

We’re in a war between savages and civilization. Everything else is a detail.

Some of us woke up to that war when planes crashed into skyscrapers. Others when we saw beheading videos spread across social media. What we saw in Israel, Hamas terrorists raping, mutilating and defiling corpses, is another bloody wake-up call. There will be many others.

Beyond the politics and the geopolitics, we still haven’t come to terms with what we’re fighting.

The barbarism of murdering women and children, taking them as hostages, and posting photos of their dead bodies to social media, is not a byproduct of Islamic warfare, it’s the whole point.
Cruelty, beheading, burning to death, torturing and mutilating are the essence of Islam. This is how Islamic warfare was practiced beginning with Mohammed for over a thousand years. It’s how it continues to be practiced, whether it’s ISIS fighting other Muslims, Azebajani troops killing Armenians, Hamas attacking Israelis, or Islamic terrorists plotting carnage in Western nations.

Islam was born out of a war by barbarians against the civilized societies of Persia and Byzantium. Despite academic mythmaking, its vision never extended beyond rape and slavery, its empires fell into power struggles, beginning with Sunnis and Shiites, and its cultural and scientific accomplishments were all looted from conquered peoples. When civilization finally toppled the Ottoman Empire with some help from its internal barbarians, the cycle began again. . .

. . . The question is how do civilized societies confront savagery? Do we blame ourselves for having made the savages what they are through our capitalism and colonialism even though they have behaved this way long before modern western civilization amounted to anything? Or do we set forth to reeducate them, to build modern nations for them and teach them to become civilized?

We have sent forth our sons and daughters to make peace with them and to educate them. Our societies opened themselves to embrace and celebrate the virtues of the noble savage. When we realized that we could not coexist with savages, we tried to remake our societies to serve them. All of that has been tried and civilization is still drowning in the violence of the savages.

The fundamental truth is that civilization and savagery are innately at war with one another. . .

. . . Savages and decadent civilizations have no firm concept of right and wrong. Everything is subjectively opportunistic and there can be scenarios in which raping a woman, killing her and then posting a photo of her body to social media so her family can see is actually right.

That is why civilization has to defeat savagery, without equivocation, apologies or sympathy, not only to win, but to revive its own soul. Negotiations and laws of war are for peer civilization. Savages offer nothing and so are owed nothing. They keep no agreements except when it suits them. Their word is worthless and their morality is non-existent.

A civilization that does not understand all this will learn it the hard way.

Civilizations are built on the suppression of savagery: both internally and externally.. When civilizations defeat savages, learning, art, science and ideas thrive. And when civilizations allow savages to ravage them, they lose their people, their morality and eventually their existence.

No form of war is more sacred than that of civilization against savagery. It is these wars that made Christianity and Judaism, not to mention all the ideas of western civilization, as well as those of Asia and India, possible. This is once again the defining struggle of our age.

Either civilization or the savages will prevail. Any attempt at a middle ground is suicide.

THIS. It pains me to have to say this but Israel has to consider the rescue of hostages as secondary to wiping out Hamas, even if it means annihilating every man, woman and child in Gaza to do so. If hostages can be saved, by all means do so. But that cannot be the prime goal.

This is an existential war. The only thing these fiends know is pain and death. Unfortunately, the only way this ends is when every Muslim on the planet renounces the central tenets of their pseudo-religion in which they call for the death and/or subjugation of unbelievers. That is a complete non-starter of course, so the only alternative is eternal vigilance and absolute overwhelming and lethal force in the face of any aggression. Preemptively if necessary and without mercy, consideration or quarter.

By the way, everything Greenfield writes concerning adherents to Islam can be substituted for Leftists.

Two rotten sides of the same coin.

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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:53 AM




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1 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 10, 2023 07:52 AM (lwOKI)

2 I called 'em.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 10, 2023 07:53 AM (qPw5n)

3 Thank you, JJ

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 10, 2023 07:53 AM (1n+EO)

4 Thank you, JJ.
Also, thank you and CDB for the new podcast and those podcasts that came before it.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at October 10, 2023 07:54 AM (gxokI)

5 Good morning again dear morons and thank you JJ

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 07:55 AM (RIvkX)

6 A mass shooting by terrorists. Trump's fault.

Posted by: fd at October 10, 2023 07:56 AM (vFG9F)

7 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 10, 2023 07:56 AM (T4tVD)

8 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 10, 2023 07:57 AM (Q4IgG)

9 Happy Tuesday, everyone despite everything that's going on. Now to read the articles.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 10, 2023 07:57 AM (4olE8)

10 Willowed;

Nikki Halley is the new Jeb!
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 10, 2023 06:04 AM (8fpTj)

Please clap.

Posted by: Rosasharn at October 10, 2023 06:32 AM (PzBTm)


Eh, Nikki Haley is the 23-dimenwsional bank shot of Genius Space Billiards for Our GOPe Betters.

They and their WEF/Davos Palz must figure it's time we had a woman Preezy.

If Biden catches Pillow-Over-Face Covid, then the Dims come in with their POCette, and Voila! Preezy Fronthole.

The easy thing, of course, is to back Trump 100% and insure voting security, and do what's best for the people of this country, buuuuuut-

that won't get then Chinese/PsychoticBillionaire Mega bux for destroying this country.

Anyway, why aren't we importing in more of these lovely, peaceful palestinian folk? Someone's not doing their job.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2023 07:57 AM (QzZeQ)

11 Avi Yemini

@OzraeliAvi
🚨 #BREAKING: Victoria Police have reportedly arrested a carload of young Muslim men driving around “looking for Jews to kill” in the Melbourne Jewish neighbourhood.

More to follow

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 07:58 AM (TGPs7)

12 "Where should we go?"

"hell."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 10, 2023 07:58 AM (8fpTj)

13 morning horde.

at least it's not monday

covfefe is ready, now it's off to the content.

see you in about 50 comments or so...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 10, 2023 07:58 AM (nXhwP)

14 " If hostages can be saved, by all means do so. "

They are already casualties. May they be protected and survive this atrocity.

Posted by: fd at October 10, 2023 07:59 AM (vFG9F)

15 JJ and CDB spoke accurately in this most recent podcast regarding Mike Pence, who, by the way, seriously damaged Trump before he was even sworn in, by toeing the FBI line in the ouster of Lt Gen Mike Flynn.
I add Nikki Haley to the list of persons, like Pence, have absolutely no business being in authority of any kind in our nation.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at October 10, 2023 07:59 AM (gxokI)

16 It pains me to have to say this but Israel has to consider the rescue of hostages as secondary to wiping out Hamas, even if it means annihilating every man, woman and child in Gaza to do so.
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No civilized person WANTS to do this. It's horrific in the extreme and will stain our souls for generations, as it should.

But the savages DO NOT GIVE US A CHOICE! It is THEY who have decided to flaunt their crimes in the faces of civilized people who are far better than they. It is THEY who have decided through their actions to become worse than animals.

All they have to do is cease their behavior and they could be left alone. But they cannot do that. So civilization must do the moral thing and eradicate them.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 10, 2023 08:00 AM (YIVH2)

17 Thanks JJ. Hamas is lower than animal. The barbarism is sickening. I hope Israel goes all the way; can’t leave any part of a cancer

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 08:01 AM (a0mpl)

18 I'm looking forward to hearing why we should Stand With Ukraine and send billions of dollars, tons of arms (that is ending up being used by Hamas to kill Jews in Israel), and our own soldiers, but Israel is on their own.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:01 AM (RDD2k)

19 When one side gives you Total War, you must respond "in kind."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 10, 2023 08:02 AM (8fpTj)

20 I'm looking forward to hearing why we should Stand With Ukraine and send billions of dollars, tons of arms (that is ending up being used by Hamas to kill Jews in Israel), and our own soldiers, but Israel is on their own.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:01 AM (RDD2k)
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The hypocrisy and double standard is deafening.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 10, 2023 08:02 AM (YIVH2)

21 It pains me to have to say this but Israel has to consider the rescue of hostages as secondary to wiping out Hamas, even if it means annihilating every man, woman and child in Gaza to do so.
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No civilized person WANTS to do this. It's horrific in the extreme and will stain our souls for generations, as it should.

But the savages DO NOT GIVE US A CHOICE! It is THEY who have decided to flaunt their crimes in the faces of civilized people who are far better than they. It is THEY who have decided through their actions to become worse than animals.

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This.

Similar to Pearl Harbor, the usual subjects who gripe and complain about everything Israel does will gripe and complain about it, but leveling the area and being done with it once and for all is the only humane path forward.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:03 AM (RDD2k)

22 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 08:03 AM (iyjVe)

23 10 - Nikki! Has the big Mo. Will Turd suspended his campaign and endorsed Nikki! Never met a war she didn’t love

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 08:03 AM (a0mpl)

24 Dangit, not Pearl Harbor. Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:03 AM (RDD2k)

25 In addition to Robert Malley and the others, add Ariane Tabatabai to the list.

Chief of Staff to Assistant Sec. of Defense for Special Ops Christopher Maier, (she) is a long-time member of the "Iran Experts Initiative" which is a front group consisting of "academics" and others who "assist" the U.S. Govt in dealing with Iran. Email comms between her and various officials in the Iran Govt show that she has been taking directions from Tehran and reporting on matters learned in her capacity in DOD.
====
via Shipwreckedcrew on X

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 10, 2023 08:04 AM (Q4IgG)

26 Gaza is just one arm of the hydra.

Posted by: davidt at October 10, 2023 08:04 AM (SYTee)

27
Or do we set forth to reeducate them, to build modern nations for them and teach them to become civilized?

Unpossible. All you can do is contain them in a Schrodinger's box where you don't give a damn if they're alive or dead. In that box, we're safe. In our communities, if they hit a certain critical mass, we're dead.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 08:04 AM (enJYY)

28 In the past six months or so, as Netanyahu led a popular campaign to reform an Israeli judiciary that was completely unaccountable, and solidly leftist, Biden and other bad actors worked to foment BLM/Antifa style street protests against the government.
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Hmmm. Color Revolutiony.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 08:05 AM (t0OGg)

29 That six billion dollars we gave them for our five spies probably came in really handily for buying weapons from Ukraine, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:05 AM (RDD2k)

30 Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈

@MrAndyNgo

In case you didn’t know: In 1991, some 200,000 Palestinians were expelled from Kuwait within a week. This was nearly the entire Palestinian population there. They were no longer wanted for destabilizing the host country through their political organizing.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 08:05 AM (TGPs7)

31 If you are still wondering why the left establishment hate Trump and by extension us then here is your reason. They want a world where Hamas and other totalitarian regimes enforce their will on the world and freedom and humanity are extinguished.

Look around at the protests in support of Hamas and their barbarism around the world while support for Israel is silenced. This is the fight we are engaged in, choose your weapon wisely.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 08:05 AM (ZLI7S)

32 Interestingly, American Thinker blames inflation on "reckless monetary policy". They are overthinking things.

To curb inflation, spend money on
1) a good
2) a service.

Government is neither a good nor a service. Spend as little money here as you can get away with.

Do this, keep this in mind, watch inflation fall dramatically.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:05 AM (8sMut)

33 We have someone to Meet Xi's plane next month in Frisco?

Posted by: Rocky Calavito at October 10, 2023 08:06 AM (LcRVs)

34 Or do we set forth to reeducate them, to build modern nations for them and teach them to become civilized?

-

(looks around the United States, pauses while looking at every major city, checks demographic data on various crucial details necessary to the survival and advancement of society)

(raises hand)

I KNOW THIS ONE!! PICK ME! PICK ME!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:07 AM (RDD2k)

35 What is the difference between supporting Israel vs Ukraine? Take a look at what the leader of Hamas said.

'The entire 510 million square kilometers of Planet Earth will come under [a system] where there is no injustice, no oppression, no Zionism, no treacherous Christianity and no killings and crimes like those being committed against the Palestinians, and against the Arabs in all the Arab countries, in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and other countries".


Has Putin threatened to take over the world and eliminate Christianity?

Posted by: fdX6 at October 10, 2023 08:07 AM (vFG9F)

36 Never met a war she didn’t love
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 08:03 AM (a0mpl)

And you sit at the other extreme: nothing is worth fighting for.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:07 AM (8sMut)

37 Posted by: Paul at October 10, 2023 08:06 AM (LbjC3)
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Your brand of stupidity is not welcome here this morning.

STFU and STFD.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 10, 2023 08:07 AM (YIVH2)

38 Has Putin threatened to take over the world and eliminate Christianity?


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Or create a genetic virus and kill 7M people and counting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:08 AM (RDD2k)

39 That run in the Chyna Consulate was no accident, that dog fart Xi must never land on US soil.

Posted by: Rocky Calavito at October 10, 2023 08:08 AM (LcRVs)

40 29 That six billion dollars we gave them for our five spies probably came in really handily for buying weapons from Ukraine, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:05 AM (RDD2k)


$6 billion to Iran
$ ??? to Ukraine to buy weapons.
10% kickback to the Big Guy

I'll wager anything Biden and Zelensky scored big-time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 08:08 AM (x0n13)

41 They wanted existential war, so now they will have existential war.

Anyone wringing their hands over U.S. involvement is gaslighting. This is between the Israelis and the Arabs.

Just take note of your neighbors who are only waiting for a similar opportunity to do it to you.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:09 AM (RIvkX)

42 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, horde.

Posted by: Inogame at October 10, 2023 08:09 AM (53oGX)

43 911 presented us with an opportunity to..uh...change the calculus of the world wrt to islam.

Instead, he chose to kick the can down the road.

World meet can.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2023 08:09 AM (QzZeQ)

44 bravo, JJ!

we can only hope ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 10, 2023 08:09 AM (+vFC3)

45 Mornin’, All. It’s Tuesday. Yay.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 10, 2023 08:10 AM (9ITg2)

46 They don't have the courage to say we killed babies, they say killed "settlers" because even they know they are criminal.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:10 AM (RIvkX)

47 911 presented us with an opportunity to..uh...change the calculus of the world wrt to islam.

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9-11 was an opportunity to pass the PATRIOT Act. Nothing more.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:11 AM (RDD2k)

48 THIS. It pains me to have to say this but Israel has to consider the rescue of hostages as secondary to wiping out Hamas, even if it means annihilating every man, woman and child in Gaza to do so. If hostages can be saved, by all means do so. But that cannot be the prime goal.
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Concur. And the hostages are probably being tortured and abused on their way to death. Hamas doesn't have a POW camp or the concept of POWs. They are not holding prisoners, they're holding sub-human bargaining chips. I am not a Hamas hostage and so I do not know, but killing them may be a mercy. This is a touchy subject for good reason, and we *still* argue the point about whether we should have just carpet-bombed the concentration camps in WWII. But it might be an act of mercy to those hostages to raze everything in Gaza.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 08:11 AM (t0OGg)

49 Never met a war she didn’t love
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 08:03 AM (a0mpl)

And you sit at the other extreme: nothing is worth fighting for.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:07 AM (8sMut)

Wow… Assume much, do ya? I support Israel’s war against Hamas and I hope the U.S. provides support and weapons. But you’re welcome to keep making false assumptions…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 08:11 AM (a0mpl)

50 Savages are offended by the existence of civilization. When they see one, they want to destroy it. There can be no peace with savages because, contrary to Islam, peace is a condition of civilization. To have peace, you must be civilized.

Leftist, Communist, Progressive, and the like see no issues or differences in civilizations.
One example is the idea that a person living today (white person that is) must bear witness against people that lived 150 years ago. How does denouncing the slavery of your ancestors and paying reparation solve the problems of today?
It does not and was never intended to. It is an admission that what we agree to live as today is no better than the way we lived in 1850.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 10, 2023 08:11 AM (lwOKI)

51 John Rich🇺🇸
@johnrich

With war breaking out in the Middle East, it's good to know we have a full strategic oil reserve in case fuel becomes an issue...oh wait...My mistake, Biden drained it so he could lower gas prices for the midterms. Carry on.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 08:12 AM (TGPs7)

52
♪ What if you knew her and saw her dead in a truck ♪

CSNY revisited

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 08:12 AM (enJYY)

53 I fully support the use of whatever those horrible weapons are that suck the atmosphere out of an area and don't damage the buildings.

Then put up walls to prevent photographers from entering or reporting on conditions, same as Maui.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:12 AM (RDD2k)

54 Good morning JJ and horde

Saw lots of horror reports from Israel this morning,
Heart breaking

Posted by: Skip at October 10, 2023 08:13 AM (QJuCN)

55 By the way, everything Greenfield writes concerning adherents to Islam can be substituted for Leftists.
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Which is why the leftists find Islam to be such a natural ally. Except that the leftists are, in fact, BINOs - Barbarians in Name Only. They *think* they want to burn it all down because it's nasty, but they're dorm room nihilists. When they win courtesy of their unholy alliance with the likes of Islam, they will be annihilated by their putative allies. They will have no ability to fight them. They've bitten off more than they can chew, and will be destroyed by it. It's mighty cold comfort.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 08:14 AM (t0OGg)

56 Bottom line is this is all Biblical and spiritual. Not political

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at October 10, 2023 08:14 AM (ztQ7U)

57 “The Berlin Police Department must advise against taking the law into your own hands,” the BPD press release about the incident stated. “While it can be frustrating to witness injustice or experience wrongdoing, it is important to remember that there are legal systems and authorities in place to handle these situations.

Police are there to protect criminals from civilized people.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 10, 2023 08:14 AM (lwOKI)

58 With war breaking out in the Middle East, it's good to know we have a full strategic oil reserve in case fuel becomes an issue...oh wait...My mistake, Biden drained it so he could lower gas prices for the midterms. Carry on.

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The sobering part is to realize that every action since Obama's first term (and I have no doubt his handlers / fellow travelers are running this administration as well) has been to crush the middle class.

Inflation destroyed 50% of our wealth in the last two years. Boom. Gone.

Energy prices double or treble now, and the middle class households making $70K/year are going to barely be able to scrape by.

In marxism there is the poor and the wealthy. There is no middle class. Fundamental transformation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:15 AM (RDD2k)

59 26 Gaza is just one arm of the hydra.
Posted by: davidt at October 10, 2023 08:04 AM (SYTee)

Well, until people are willing to nuke Mecca's Space Rock out of existence...

Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 08:15 AM (sm6Pk)

60 Eva Vlaardingerbroek
@EvaVlaar
It’s clear that there are people at the highest level who knew the attack on Israel would happen.

An Egyptian intelligence official said Israel ignored repeated warnings of ‘something big’. Israel also has one of the most advanced militaries in the world and works in close cooperation with the CIA. There must have been people who knew and either wanted it to happen or they let it happen.

It’s also clear that many are now angrily beating the drums of war, just like we’ve seen throughout the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

People on both “sides” are eager to see further escalation of this conflict, regardless of whether or not it launches us into World War 3.

I think that’s an extremely dangerous path to go down on and I’d exercise great caution in following any narratives like that.

Before we start World War 3, it’s worth asking ourselves:

Who benefits from further escalation of this conflict?

Who benefits from this war?

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 08:15 AM (TGPs7)

61 Concur. And the hostages are probably being tortured and abused on their way to death. Hamas doesn't have a POW camp or the concept of POWs. They are not holding prisoners, they're holding sub-human bargaining chips. I am not a Hamas hostage and so I do not know, but killing them may be a mercy. This is a touchy subject for good reason, and we *still* argue the point about whether we should have just carpet-bombed the concentration camps in WWII. But it might be an act of mercy to those hostages to raze everything in Gaza.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 08:11 AM (t0OGg)
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The hostages MUST be removed as a bargaining chip, by any means possible. It's one of the more horrific choices facing Israel.

They must harden their hearts and do what is necessary to KILL HAMAS and DESTROY GAZA. No quarter. No mercy. No survivors.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 10, 2023 08:16 AM (YIVH2)

62 "The rabidly Jew- and Israel-hating Malley was the co-author of


And yet Jewish Americans still vote at least 80% Dems. Their overwhelming support for the party that supports Israel declared enemies, wants destroy our country and enslave me just boggles the mind.

Posted by: Ripley at October 10, 2023 08:17 AM (JojsZ)

63 When Americans Do the Job Their Police Won’t Do
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They'll be arrested...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 10, 2023 08:17 AM (Q4IgG)

64 And yet Jewish Americans still vote at least 80% Dems. Their overwhelming support for the party that supports Israel declared enemies, wants destroy our country and enslave me just boggles the mind.
Posted by: Ripley

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I assume it's like liberal women.

"If our enlightened Democrats will do this, imagine how bad the Republicans would be!!!"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:18 AM (RDD2k)

65 As vile as the Palestinians and their supporters cheering, we have Pence and Christie joining the fray with equally disgusting responses.

Pence, finding Trump, DeSantis and Rammy to blame for not leading or something.

But worse was Christie. He knows who is really to blame: Matt Gaetz. His "distraction" prevented the House from ... something something.
What an ass. Fat fuck can't meet his massive coronary failure soon enough.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 08:18 AM (a+vXW)

66 I fully support the use of whatever those horrible weapons are that suck the atmosphere out of an area and don't damage the buildings...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:12 AM (RDD2k)

There ain't no such animal.

You must be thinking of Neutron Bombs, which are a low yield nuke that produces intense levels of radiation without much building damage.

The people die of radiation exposure/sickness.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2023 08:19 AM (QzZeQ)

67
Hopefully Israel will revisit any policy of keeping guns out of the hands of residents in the Gaza area. That's number one.

Number two is the advisability of having any sort of fun within earshot range of barbarians without heavy security presence.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 08:20 AM (enJYY)

68 In marxism there is the poor and the wealthy. There is no middle class. Fundamental transformation.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:15 AM (RDD2k)
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In Marxism. In fascism. In old-fashioned royal aristocracy. In preliterate savage societies. In theocracies.

In every system throughout history except free systems, there is no middle.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 08:20 AM (t0OGg)

69 Wow… Assume much, do ya? I support Israel’s war against Hamas and I hope the U.S. provides support and weapons. But you’re welcome to keep making false assumptions…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 08:11 AM (a0mpl)

That's nice. But you weren't talking about that. You said "(Nikki Haley) never met a war she didn't like."

Now, while I do not think we can or should go into everywhere guns blazing (A good way to deplete Russian and Iranian treasuries is for our country to flood the world with oil - and maybe NOT let Iran have $6 billion in assets), I do think there are situations where we can and should defend ourselves and our interests.

Maybe instead of whining about "false assumptions", clarify.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:20 AM (8sMut)

70 Paul Ryan blathering on CNBC this am. His self righteous lecturing on Trump and outright lies about him was breathtaking. Ryan is fresh off of some weekend meeting of elites including the CEO of Blackrock and others who know how to solve the world s problems. Could not have praised McCarthy more.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 10, 2023 08:21 AM (pgR+m)

71 Thanks JJ !

AGAIN !!!

Posted by: JT at October 10, 2023 08:22 AM (T4tVD)

72 In marxism there is the poor and the wealthy. There is no middle class. Fundamental transformation.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:15 AM (RDD2k)

If you aspire to greater - congratulations, you are middle class. That kind of thinking ENRAGES the Left, who wants a society where everyone is frozen in place like a rigid caste system.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:22 AM (8sMut)

73 68 In Marxism. In fascism. In old-fashioned royal aristocracy. In preliterate savage societies. In theocracies.

In every system throughout history except free systems, there is no middle.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 08:20 AM (t0OGg)

I can't connect all the dots yet, but I've always had this feeling where many of the global movers and shakers feel that imposing Islam on the world is the "path of least resistance" for Global Governance. A Neo-Feudalism where the punishment for stepping out of line is Death.

Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 08:23 AM (sm6Pk)

74 Hamas is telling everyone in Askelon to get out by 5:00. Very odd.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 10, 2023 08:23 AM (Lf7Zh)

75 There ain't no such animal.

You must be thinking of Neutron Bombs, which are a low yield nuke that produces intense levels of radiation without much building damage.

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Went and checked, and I was thinking about thermobaric weapons.

They do more damage to structures than I realized, though.

I'm still fairly okay with it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:24 AM (RDD2k)

76 Thx JJ
Morning Horde
That Malley has forsaken his Jewish ancestry and his country ,the USA, for his leftist ideology. Every person in this cabal he ran should be strung up , on gallows surrounding the State Department to act as a warning to others

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 10, 2023 08:24 AM (eNQKw)

77 A previous paper by Eric McGhee and Jennifer Paluch of the Public Policy Institute of California and Mindy Romero of the University of Southern California, published last year, suggested UVM boosted the number of votes by a more modest but still significant 5.6 points in 2020, while a paper published by the Democrat-aligned Pantheon Analytics data firm in 2018 suggested UVM states see five to seven percent more votes cast than non-UVM states.

About the same amount as the number of illegal and bad voter registrations.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 10, 2023 08:24 AM (lwOKI)

78 Is there any doubt the angry old man in the White House has always been ant-semite?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 10, 2023 08:24 AM (GwFQt)

79 That American Thinker article on Vermont LE:
ACAB stands for All Cops Are Bastards. Don't sugar coat it and say the B is for Bad.

Posted by: Ciampino - Liberals are Miserable at October 10, 2023 08:25 AM (qfLjt)

80 Greg Kelly had footage last night of the contraptions that Hamas used to cross the border into Southern Israel in order to slaughter those kids at the peace/music festival. Rudimentary. Stone age contraptions. Little chairs suspended from large fans. Kelly called them flying lawn mowers. They moved very slowly, and in full daylight.

How they were not seen and intercepted by border authorities is a mystery. It would have been easier than shooting fish in a barrel. Has Israel decided to ignore its southern border, like their democrat brothers here?

Posted by: Ex GOP at October 10, 2023 08:26 AM (qS8WV)

81
Hamas is telling everyone in Askelon to get out by 5:00. Very odd.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 10, 2023 08:23 AM


Is there another name for that location?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 08:26 AM (enJYY)

82 Israeli warnings to civilians:
David Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense @davereaboi
Israel warning Gaza residents to evacuate to designated safe areas before the offensive begins. It’s far more humane than their enemies are—and it won’t win them any goodwill at all.

Quote tweet: OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical Oct 7
The IDF has issued specific instructions for residents in 7 areas of the Gaza Strip to evacuate to predetermined points. Targeted text messages are also outgoing.

Hamas warning to civilians:
War Monitor @WarMonitors 8m
⚡️#BREAKING Hamas Spokesman Abu Ubaida: “In response to the enemy’s crime of displacing our people and forcing them to flee their homes in several areas of the Gaza Strip, we are giving the residents of the occupied city of Ashkelon a deadline to leave it before five o’clock this evening, and those who were warned have been excused.”

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 08:27 AM (krqg6)

83 American Leftists of Brandon's and Obama's generations hated Israel and backed the Palis for reasons having little to do with Jews and Arabs - it was simply because they took all their queues from the Soviet Union. As Israel gradually entered the US sphere of influence, the American Communists were duty bound to oppose them.

They couldn't say that out loud of course, so they cloaked their bullshit in rhetoric about apartheid and colonialism and equity and justice blah blah blah blah. Once they spent decades railing on like that, they couldn't backpedal from that position, even after Moscow was out of the picture.

Now, the Monster Babies they raised don't even remember the Soviet Union; they nothing of that history, quite by design, but they were raised on a steady diet of Israel hate their whole lives. They have no idea about the reasons why they hate Israel, just that they do.

The ignorance on display by the adult children in this country is almost a thing of beauty. It's a true triumph of agitation and propaganda on a level that was never really achieved by Communism 1.0.

NPCs are the perfect New Soviet Men, passionately believing the Party line without ever knowing why.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 10, 2023 08:27 AM (0FoWg)

84 Hamas is telling everyone in Askelon to get out by 5:00. Very odd.
Posted by: Ben Had


Tell everyone in Gaza to go to certain coordinates.






Then nuke it.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 08:27 AM (iyjVe)

85 Ryan wants the social media channels to “tamp down the anti semitic posts “ on their platforms. AKA censorship.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 10, 2023 08:29 AM (pgR+m)

86 By now Hamas shouldn't have the ability to "tell" anyone, anything.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:29 AM (RIvkX)

87 By now Hamas shouldn't have the ability to "tell" anyone, anything.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:29 AM (RIvkX)
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Unfortunately, it's going to take time to eradicate them fully. Time is NOT on Israel's side in this as international pressure mounts against them.

Hamas is more persistent and difficult to get rid of than a cockroach infestation. With fewer morals.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 10, 2023 08:30 AM (YIVH2)

88 I don't care if Israel kills every Arab in Gaza, the Middle East, or the entire World.

I just wish they'd find someone else to finance it.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:30 AM (NfF+F)

89 The only difference between Hamas and the American left is, they don't have a naked body of their enemy to parade through the streets.

Yet.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 08:31 AM (a+vXW)

90
Found it:

In the later medieval period, the city was the site of two significant Crusader battles: the Battle of Ascalon in 1099, and the Siege of Ascalon in 1153

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 08:32 AM (enJYY)

91 I just wish they'd find someone else to finance it.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:30 AM (NfF+F)


Of all the host of things that government takes my money for, this is one I would not complain about.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 10, 2023 08:32 AM (45fpk)

92 I don't care if Israel kills every Arab in Gaza, the Middle East, or the entire World.

I just wish they'd find someone else to finance it.
Posted by: The American Taxpayer


Now fo Ukraine and all the other countries that actually hate the US.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 08:32 AM (iyjVe)

93 'Hamas' sole purpose is to kill as many Jews as possible. Full stop.

'Hamas' must be eliminated.

Posted by: dantesed at October 10, 2023 08:32 AM (88xKn)

94 DbZ, sorry for the typo. Ashkelon

Posted by: Ben Had at October 10, 2023 08:33 AM (Lf7Zh)

95 >>How they were not seen and intercepted by border authorities is a mystery. It would have been easier than shooting fish in a barrel. Has Israel decided to ignore its southern border, like their democrat brothers here?

Saw some video footage the other day of drones dropping explosives on Israeli monitoring stations before the attack to essentially take out the Israeli border monitoring capabilities. Hamas clearly had help planning and executing this attack.

By the way, how does Hamas get 5000+ rockets and other military weapons into an "open air prison"? Prisons usually have guards to prevent this kind of thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 08:33 AM (ZLI7S)

96 War in Israel.

Norms restored!

Posted by: National Review at October 10, 2023 08:34 AM (zBYaP)

97 By the way, how does Hamas get 5000+ rockets and other military weapons into an "open air prison"? Prisons usually have guards to prevent this kind of thing.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 08:33 AM (ZLI7S)

It's almost like Medi Hasan is a lying sack of shit.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 10, 2023 08:34 AM (CIS44)

98 Chinese Jooooos join their Nepalese Jooooooo allies in death. They were Joooos weren't they??

War Monitor @WarMonitors 5h
⚡️China's Foreign Ministry, regarding the report of Chinese nationals killed in Hamas operation: As of now, as situation is evolving rapidly, we are continuing efforts to verify and confirm relevant information

BTW...
War Monitor @WarMonitors 3h
⚡️Kremlin: “We have longstanding historical ties with the Palestinians and we continue contacts”

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 08:34 AM (krqg6)

99 The IDF should just say "The bombs begin falling between 0000 and 2359 local. Guess and plan accordingly.

SHOW NO MERCY.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:35 AM (8sMut)

100 Yes, I have the exact position on the Ukraine. And Mexico. And every other foreign country that takes my money.

If you need my money to exist, you shouldn't exist.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:35 AM (NfF+F)

101
Ascalon is in Israel, a little more then four miles north of the northern border of Gaza.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 08:35 AM (enJYY)

102 If you need my money to exist, you shouldn't exist.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:35 AM (NfF+F)


Whoa.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 10, 2023 08:36 AM (45fpk)

103 It is difficult, yet essential to grasp that people, culture, and institutions can become so debased as to become criminal in their nature and therefore must be destroyed. They cannot be turned or rehabilitated.

Like a rabid dog. Except its not the dog's fault and bears no guilt. The Gazans on the other hand chose their fate.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:36 AM (RIvkX)

104 Bunches of rallies in Western cities of Pali symps celebrating massacred Jews.
I expect violence to follow in these places as well.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 10, 2023 08:36 AM (vHIgi)

105 88 I don't care if Israel kills every Arab in Gaza, the Middle East, or the entire World.

I just wish they'd find someone else to finance it.
Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:30 AM (NfF+F)

How the hell else do we field test the equipment we buy?

Posted by: Department of Defense at October 10, 2023 08:36 AM (8sMut)

106 War Monitor @WarMonitors 3h
⚡️#BREAKING The Ministry of Interior in Gaza: “Occupation aircraft re-bombed the Rafah crossing between the Palestinian and Egyptian sides, preventing the movement of passengers.”

War Monitor @WarMonitors 1h
⚡️Hebrew Channel 12: Israel threatened Egypt to strike any trucks carrying aid trying to enter Gaza from the Rafah crossing

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 08:36 AM (krqg6)

107 Meanwhile, at the White House...

The medical Ready Team is preparing to wake the president and start his morning IV

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 08:36 AM (geLO8)

108 Has Israel decided to ignore its southern border, like their democrat brothers here?

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I'm not saying this lightly:

This has become a worldwide problem, with people beginning to connect the dots and understand that it's tied to the globalists. Invade and weaken societies/cultures, and eventually there won't be separate cultures. We've seen it here in just the last 20 years. "American" means where people are born.
"American values" doesn't really mean anything at all any more.

Whoever wrote Camp of the Saints was incredibly prescient or divinely inspired.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:36 AM (RDD2k)

109 International opinion doesn't mean shit. None of these people are on Israel's side anyway, and that """opinion""" is manufactured by the Americans, duplicitous paper tigers who can't help them even if they were so inclined, which they aren't.

Ignore it. There will be no meaningful consequences from the raddled old slatterns of the West for defying them. Annihilate the enemy without regard to that puling, cunty whining from the Land of the Setting Sun.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 10, 2023 08:37 AM (0FoWg)

110 Today is National Angel Food Cake Day.

Forget the cake, we need some angels.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 10, 2023 08:37 AM (NpAcC)

111 If you need my money to exist, you shouldn't exist.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer

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I'm a lot more comfortable with "if you want to continue getting these handouts you're going to need to do what I tell you."

Problem being, I think we're probably seeing that with Hamas.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:38 AM (RDD2k)

112 I'm wondering, does AOC's district have a significant Jewish population?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 10, 2023 08:38 AM (RsfRG)

113 If you need my money to exist, you shouldn't exist.
Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:35 AM (NfF+F)
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I would like to assure you they do not "need your money to exist."

Everyone knows the American Taxpayer is a sucker.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:39 AM (RIvkX)

114 88 I don't care if Israel kills every Arab in Gaza, the Middle East, or the entire World.

I just wish they'd find someone else to finance it.
Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:30 AM (NfF+F)


Consider aid to Israel as an insurance policy. Cheap at 10 times the price considering all the other things Israeli companies produce that we all benefit from in terms of tech and medicine amongst other things.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 08:39 AM (x0n13)

115 Or do we set forth to reeducate them, to build modern nations for them and teach them to become civilized?

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No education will work. Conversion to a peaceful religion might.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 10, 2023 08:39 AM (vHIgi)

116 Bongino was morose yesterday. One problem I have with ALL sources anymore is that I don't what is "real" anymore.

BUT - he noted a couple things. The Biden Administration just recently said they needed to build a wall at the border (whether they meant it or not). Also, we had that big test of the emergency broadcast system.

And then the attack on Israel happens.

I had not bought any ammo for a while. This has been remedied.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 08:39 AM (dWjpk)

117 A lot of people don't know it, but Joe Biden was raised in a Jewish household. His word as a Biden.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:39 AM (RDD2k)

118 Our welfare state has subsidized more than enough failure within our country. I draw the line at subsidizing failed states.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:40 AM (NfF+F)

119 If you need my money to exist, you shouldn't exist.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer


Sweet. Shut off EBT toot sweet.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 08:40 AM (iyjVe)

120 >> I do think there are situations where we can and should defend ourselves and our interests.

Maybe instead of whining about "false assumptions", clarify.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:20 AM (8sMut)

I agree with you wholeheartedly; there are situations.

I also think Nikki! is/was too quick to support American involvement in wars, Ukraine being a prime example where neither side is a “good guy” so I’m offended by the warmongering by her and other pols like Pence who are playing with fire given Russia’s nuclear arsenal.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 08:41 AM (Z1GI4)

121 Prisons usually have guards to prevent this kind of thing.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 08:33 AM (ZLI7S)


Prisons are also full of drugs.

So up their asses, maybe?

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 08:41 AM (dWjpk)

122 112 I'm wondering, does AOC's district have a significant Jewish population?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 10, 2023 08:38 AM (RsfRG)


A few Russian expats. Mostly working class Latino and black. And they ain't thrilled with her open borders stance.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 08:41 AM (x0n13)

123 Please. The last time American taxpayers had any say in how their dollars were spent was sometime in the 19th century.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 10, 2023 08:41 AM (vHIgi)

124 118 Our welfare state has subsidized more than enough failure within our country. I draw the line at subsidizing failed states.
Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:40 AM (NfF+F)

119 If you need my money to exist, you shouldn't exist.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer


Sweet. Shut off EBT toot sweet.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 08:40 AM (iyjVe)

============

Asked and answered, counselor.

Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:41 AM (NfF+F)

125 Unfortunately, it's going to take time to eradicate them fully. Time is NOT on Israel's side in this as international pressure mounts against them.

Hamas is more persistent and difficult to get rid of than a cockroach infestation. With fewer morals.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 10, 2023 08:30 AM (YIVH2)

Even without international pressure from wimps, Israel is a country the size of NJ with slightly more population than NJ. Time is not on their side, period.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:42 AM (8sMut)

126 A few Russian expats. Mostly working class Latino and black. And they ain't thrilled with her open borders stance.

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Good thing they don't have a say-so.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:42 AM (RDD2k)

127 And it should not go without notice that, after seeing Isreal suffer the equivalent of six 9/11s, the vast majority of Republicans are still--STILL--stuck in their "business as usual," bloodless focus-group tripe statements that they trot out for every tragedy.

Not one is speaking plan and short. Like men of action.

Nothing will shake them from the stupor; that what happened there is planned for us here, aided and abetted by every Democrat and their voters.

You think they gussied up 1/6 into a"the deadliest attack on our democracy since the Civil War" because they are patriots? And not laying the groundwork for the extermination of opposition?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 08:42 AM (a+vXW)

128 I assume the President's televised remarks tonight will be pre-recorded

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 08:42 AM (geLO8)

129 Just what are these Palestinian incels to do ?

Posted by: SMOD at October 10, 2023 08:42 AM (RHGPo)

130 A huge weapons cache that we stored in Israel was sent by the Biden administration to Ukraine. Those were our weapons stored in Israel with the approval of the Israeli government. We also get a significant amount of intel from Israel as well as military support in one of the most volatile and dangerous regions of the world.

Ukraine gives us nothing but corruption and human trafficking. Israel is not remotely the same.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 08:43 AM (ZLI7S)

131 Went and checked, and I was thinking about thermobaric weapons.

They do more damage to structures than I realized, though.

I'm still fairly okay with it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:24 AM (RDD2k)

MOAB,

it's not just for LZ prep anymore....

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 10, 2023 08:43 AM (nXhwP)

132 What is it with Moslems, like Obama, and red lines??

War Monitor @WarMonitors 1h
⚡️Iranian Foreign Minister: Resistance leaders assured us that anything will be possible if Israel crosses the red lines
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Don't you dare send troops 'cross that border!!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 08:43 AM (krqg6)

133 Ashkelon, is the port where all the oil is imported.

Posted by: pawn at October 10, 2023 08:43 AM (5g9YU)

134 Israel has a tall order in front of them if they expect to wipe out Hamas. There's a lot of infrastructure still standing in Gaza and I'm honestly not sure there's enough conventional ordinance on the planet to flatten the place.

The alternative is probably off the table, but I'd float the possibility in public if for no other reason than to agitate all the right people and provide some misdirection to my actual intentions.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 10, 2023 08:43 AM (Q4IgG)

135 >A lot of people don't know it, but Joe Biden was raised in a Jewish household. His word as a Biden.

Posted by: Moron Robbie


I thought he was Puerto-Rican
and an All-American at Univ of Delaware

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 08:44 AM (geLO8)

136 Israel needs to do to Gaza what Saul failed to do to the Amalekites.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 10, 2023 08:44 AM (9ITg2)

137 Our welfare state has subsidized more than enough failure within our country. I draw the line at subsidizing failed states.
Posted by: The American Taxpayer at October 10, 2023 08:40 AM (NfF+F)
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A conceit.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:44 AM (RIvkX)

138 A huge weapons cache that we stored in Israel was sent by the Biden administration to Ukraine. Those were our weapons stored in Israel with the approval of the Israeli government.

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They've probably returned to Israel.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:44 AM (RDD2k)

139 107 Meanwhile, at the White House...

The medical Ready Team is preparing to wake the president and start his morning IV

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 08:36 AM (geLO


Time for the Calling of the Lid Pool.

I've got 10:45AM

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 08:44 AM (x0n13)

140 Hey Horde and JJ

https://www.pizzaidf.org

Looks like they still exist so buy the soldiers of Israel a gift of food.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 08:44 AM (CI7Tw)

141 It's day 4 and missiles are incoming to Israel's most populated central region.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Gaza has to be pulverized, with nothing and no one standing.

Israel's top government and military leaders, unfortunately, have undergone a double lobotomy.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2023 08:44 AM (Zrwvp)

142 "There is so much more to the great conservative director than Red Dawn."

In true Moron form, I would be remiss in failing to note that his daughter is multi-talented, not only working in the entertainment business (she's a chip off the old block) and formerly in the State Department during the Trump admin, but also pretty cute.

https://is.gd/5K0FVS

Posted by: Bert G at October 10, 2023 08:45 AM (VARTN)

143 "The only difference between Hamas and the American left is, they don't have a naked body of their enemy to parade through the streets."

Hope they start with Rep Tlaib.

Posted by: sidney at October 10, 2023 08:46 AM (Uy/WF)

144 Joe was the best student at shul.

Signed Epstein's mother [a different Epstein, not that one]

Posted by: epstein's mother at October 10, 2023 08:46 AM (krqg6)

145 >Israel has a tall order in front of them if they expect to wipe out Hamas.

I favor the siege option- it's biblical and effective
cut Gaza off from the world and let it whither away

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 08:46 AM (geLO8)

146 Hope they start with Rep Tlaib.

Well there goes breakfast for the West Coast Horde...

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 08:47 AM (CI7Tw)

147 McCarthy's Twitter X account still using @Speaker.

Hmmmm

Posted by: Mushroom Stamp at October 10, 2023 08:47 AM (VpCCm)

148 but also pretty cute.

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"Pretty cute"

I was thinking a 5 or so when I clicked the link.

You've got some high standards.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:47 AM (RDD2k)

149 Hey, Israel. . . . how is that decades of voting for Leftists, Libs, Clinton and Obama working out for ya? And not only did you screw over the US but you especially dug in and wrecked the Israeli govt. . . how's that paying off for ya? Going Insane Left has made you betray your people, your heritage, your lands, your covenants, your God. WAKE UP, stop this self-loathing, repent in sackcloth, renew your bonds and get to work. "For thus says the Lord: Do not enter the house of mourning, or go to lament or grieve for them, for I have taken away my peace from this people, my steadfast love and mercy" You can fix that. . . .you are of the Covenant. Now rise up, get to the task. Our strong laments and weepings for you waft to heaven. May you conquer.

Posted by: Do Leftists Jews Have Souls at October 10, 2023 08:47 AM (/6bcX)

150 Israel's top government and military leaders, unfortunately, have undergone a double lobotomy.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2023 08:44 AM (Zrwvp)
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They've been spending too much time talking to OUR leaders.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 10, 2023 08:47 AM (YIVH2)

151 Delete Gaza.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 10, 2023 08:47 AM (cl+Gq)

152 I also think Nikki! is/was too quick to support American involvement in wars, Ukraine being a prime example where neither side is a “good guy” so I’m offended by the warmongering by her and other pols like Pence who are playing with fire given Russia’s nuclear arsenal.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 08:41 AM (Z1GI4)

Well, No Country Wants To Be Second. The instant Russia or anyone else pops a nuke in anger, lots of people can't bitch at America for being the only ones. (JMHO)

To me, if we had a government that can't get out of its on way (Haha!), they'd plead for oil to be drilled like mad. Keystone Pipeline? Sure! How fast can it be built? Russia's government, contrary to the beliefs of some here, DOES NOT base its budget on the price of wheat, nickel, diamonds or other commodities. They DO base their budget on oil. That is the COG. Drill oil, watch Russia panic, watch Iran panic, and find they have less money to play games. Not a shot fired, our economy improves. I have no use for sending in the military when other alternatives are better and should be tried. Just my 0.02.

And thanks for clarifying. : o ) Peace through strength! Use sparingly.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:48 AM (8sMut)

153 You've got some high standards.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:47 AM


I try to set low expectations and then over-deliver.

Posted by: Bert G at October 10, 2023 08:48 AM (VARTN)

154 Forget the cake, we need some angels.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 10, 2023 08:37 AM (NpAcC)

and never forget, some angels were HEAVILY armed...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 10, 2023 08:48 AM (nXhwP)

155 Too many civilizational enemies within our own borders.

Posted by: mr tmz at October 10, 2023 08:48 AM (rJ48h)

156 Delete Gaza.

The Romans said it better - Gaza delenda est.

So did ALlenG.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 08:48 AM (CI7Tw)

157 Camp of the Saints is on my to be read list.

Posted by: Vin at October 10, 2023 08:49 AM (GTIiB)

158 143 "The only difference between Hamas and the American left is, they don't have a naked body of their enemy to parade through the streets."

Hope they start with Rep Tlaib.
Posted by: sidney at October 10, 2023 08:46 AM (Uy/WF)

"This close."

- - Reginald Denny, Corner of Florence & Normandie, April 1992

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 08:49 AM (x0n13)

159 I try to set low expectations and then over-deliver.

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Ha. Mission accomplished. She's bouncing around the "distraction" level of the chart.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:50 AM (RDD2k)

160 Oh to have SAC back.

Mailed fist clutching lightning bolts and their motto was - "Peace is our Profession."

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 08:50 AM (CI7Tw)

161 Camp of the Saints is on my to be read list.

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It's great and short, but it will hurt your heart.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:50 AM (RDD2k)

162 Israeli air strikes have just killed 2 Senior Hamas officials.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 10, 2023 08:50 AM (NpAcC)

163 Abhijit Iyer-Mitra @Iyervval
Sweetie @pmofa could you tell me why there are so many secondary explosions when the mosque was blown up? Israel used just one bomb. What were those other explosions? The muazzin’s farts igniting? Tell me how dumb do you think we are to fall for this bull crap?

https://tinyurl.com/5n8njfze
7-second video of the strike and secondary explosions.

Abhijit Iyer-Mitra @Iyervval
Look at the secondary explosions in the first building (apartment) & 3rd building (mosque). Clear ammunition storage dumps. [video] From Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו

https://tinyurl.com/24jd3hcc
1:05 minutes; no sound; multiple views of the secondary explosions.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 08:51 AM (krqg6)

164 149 Hey, Israel. . . . how is that decades of voting for Leftists, Libs, Clinton and Obama working out for ya? And not only did you screw over the US but you especially dug in and wrecked the Israeli govt. . . how's that paying off for ya?

What are you, meshuggah?

Posted by: Bibi Netanyahu at October 10, 2023 08:51 AM (8sMut)

165 140 Hey Horde and JJ

https://www.pizzaidf.org

Looks like they still exist so buy the soldiers of Israel a gift of food.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 08:44 AM (CI7Tw)

Heh. I donated during the Intifada in '05 (?) and have been on the local Jewish Federation mail solicitation list ever since. Persistent folks.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 10, 2023 08:51 AM (N3zMI)

166 I favor the siege option- it's biblical and effective
cut Gaza off from the world and let it whither away
Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 08:46 AM (geLO
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Out of context but actually applicable:

"Howbeit of the cities of these peoples, that the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth.." - Deuteronomy 20:16

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2023 08:51 AM (Zrwvp)

167 We are in the 'bestest' of hands...

"Walk like a Joe Biden"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULk8-DGC7Hs

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 08:52 AM (CI7Tw)

168 162 Israeli air strikes have just killed 2 Senior Hamas officials.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 10, 2023 08:50 AM (NpAcC)


When you kill one or two cockroaches in your kitchen, your walls are still infested with scores more.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 08:52 AM (x0n13)

169 JJ and Horde
Thanks for providing better information and discussion than what I have seen out there.
I stand firmly on the side of level it. There is no negotiating or understanding- they will understand everything they have being reduced to rubble. (Maybe)

Posted by: Paisley at October 10, 2023 08:52 AM (ny1NG)

170 Hey Horde and JJ

https://www.pizzaidf.org

Looks like they still exist so buy the soldiers of Israel a gift of food.
Posted by: Anna Puma

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Thanks Anna Puma. I didn't know about them. That's great.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:52 AM (RDD2k)

171 .

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:53 AM (RDD2k)

172 160 Oh to have SAC back.

Mailed fist clutching lightning bolts and their motto was - "Peace is our Profession."
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 08:50 AM (CI7Tw)

I saw a static display B-52D model (D MODEL!!!) at Maxwell, with the old SAC insignia. Got a closeup pic of it.

I was not crying, YOU were crying.

"Peace Is Our Profession, War Is Just A Hobby"

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:53 AM (8sMut)

173 Persistent folks.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 10, 2023 08:51 AM (N3zMI)
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You have no idea. My drawers are bursting with pre-printed self-stick return address labels.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:54 AM (RIvkX)

174 I favor the siege option- it's biblical and effective
cut Gaza off from the world and let it whither away
Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 08:46 AM (geLO
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It requires the courage to - and to be willing to deal with the consequences of - telling the "International Community" to fuck off.

But yes. Cutting them off and starving them out will probably be effective.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 08:54 AM (t0OGg)

175 Pence is our profession

I don't know where to use it, but I like it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:54 AM (RDD2k)

176 Hey a pizza is the least we can do to show there are people in the world on their side.

Morale is a weapon also.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 08:54 AM (CI7Tw)

177 Well, it seems that the Hopi Kachina that Cindy McCain gave (note, not 'gifted") to Pope Francis was not the
"Priest Killer" one, but a woman ogre who kills and eats kids who don't bribe her sufficiently.

So, marginally better, I guess.

https://tinyurl.com/2a6v5zv2

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at October 10, 2023 08:55 AM (KB0Aa)

178 Re. #82 and #106 above:

Israel Defense Forces @IDF 1h
In recent days, the IDF has been instructing the population inside of the Gaza Strip to distance themselves from designated areas.

We emphasize that there is no official call by Israel for residents of the Gaza Strip to exit into Egypt

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 08:55 AM (krqg6)

179 Hamas is telling everyone in Askelon to get out by 5:00. Very odd.
Posted by: Ben Had


They want to try and do some clean up. As well as false equivalency- as Isreal has said the same thing about Gaza.

See, they're just like us.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 10, 2023 08:55 AM (FxH7T)

180 Hey a pizza is the least we can do to show there are people in the world on their side.

__

+1

I think it's a great idea. I love that you can buy falafel for a bunch of them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:55 AM (RDD2k)

181 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 08:48 AM (8sMut)

We are in violent agreement. Drill baby drill!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 08:55 AM (Z1GI4)

182 Israel Defense Forces @IDF 1h
In recent days, the IDF has been instructing the population inside of the Gaza Strip to distance themselves from designated areas.

We emphasize that there is no official call by Israel for residents of the Gaza Strip to exit into Egypt
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 08:55 AM (krqg6)
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Idiots.

FLATTEN GAZA!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2023 08:56 AM (Zrwvp)

183 Good Morgan Morons. Haven't posted but have been watching the comments. Its pretty clear we are in a World Color Revolution directed by multiple Deep States. This has been true from the beginning of the COVID Hoax, Stolen Election, J6 Theater, Full Out Stassi Domestic Beat Down, Afghan Debasement of US Military and Free Range Chicken $85B in Militarty Hardware, Weapons and Amunition, followed by Ukraine (Obama's, Hillary's and Vicky Noodleman 'Orange Revolution), Debasement of the US Dollar and full out war on Energy in Day 1 of Pedo Pete. Now its Israel's turn. As for England, Germany, and France - they fucked themselves. Its a new day and I am hoping for Rivers of Blood.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 08:56 AM (h2KMk)

184 " ...
Just take note of your neighbors who are only waiting for a similar opportunity to do it to you.

Posted by:San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:09AM (RIvkX)"

yeah, this too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 10, 2023 08:56 AM (+vFC3)

185
You have no idea. My drawers are bursting with pre-printed self-stick return address labels.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:54 AM


Ha! Made me laugh. My wife contributes to a number of charities and right about this time of year all sorts of goodies come in the mail. Calendars, note pads, stickers, you name it. I think it makes her feel guilty so she breaks out the checkbook again.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 08:57 AM (enJYY)

186 Spokes-Turd John Kirby: “I’m not able to get ahead of where we are and speculate about any policy decisions coming down the pike here. We just don’t have any intel. or evidence that points to Iran’s direct participation in these attacks."
White House Won’t Commit to Freezing Billions in Prisoner Swap Funds if Iran Was Directly Involved in Attacks on Israel


This may be the biggest reason the Junta has been mostly silent so far. It needs time to coordinate with the greater Dem-Media Complex on talking points, articles, and editorials that assert there's absolutely no evidence that Iran actively planned then gave the GO order for the Hamas attack.

Posted by: GL at October 10, 2023 08:57 AM (5fDan)

187 178 Re. #82 and #106 above:

Israel Defense Forces @IDF 1h
In recent days, the IDF has been instructing the population inside of the Gaza Strip to distance themselves from designated areas.

We emphasize that there is no official call by Israel for residents of the Gaza Strip to exit into Egypt
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 08:55 AM (krqg6)

Attention IDF: The sooner you make the entire Gaza Strip a "designated area" the sooner this ends.

Napalm and MOABs, guys.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 08:57 AM (x0n13)

188 It is astounding to those of us with Western thinking, incomprehensible in fact, to think of an attack with no military purpose or rationale at all. It's so idiotic, and literally insane - but that's what Hamas has done. And rational men, and rational societies, HAVE to attack and utterly destroy those who do such things, because they will come back and do it again, and again, and again. And trying to bargain with them only makes them bolder.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 08:57 AM (S6gqv)

189 Delete Gaza.

The Romans said it better - Gaza delenda est.

So did ALlenG.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Problem. More will move in.

Make. It. Glow.
Deny them for 10,000 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 08:57 AM (iyjVe)

190 "Israel has to consider the rescue of hostages as secondary to wiping out Hamas, even if it means annihilating every man, woman and child in Gaza to do so."

That's two million people.

Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at October 10, 2023 08:58 AM (MvF+J)

191 You know I have always been a supporter of Israel. I've been to Israel. They are smart people. So why the fuck do they have to get the shit kicked out of them to realize gun control is just plain stupid and an invitation to the shit going on right now.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 10, 2023 08:59 AM (pohLc)

192 Gingrich is on Bartiromo and he is saying that the Ford carrier group should guarantee that if Hezbollah attacks Northern Israel it should intervene using planes and tomahawk cruise missile.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 10, 2023 08:59 AM (eNQKw)

193 > We just don’t have any intel. or evidence that points to Iran’s direct participation in these attacks."


except Hamas' direct admission of exactly that

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 08:59 AM (geLO8)

194 You have no idea. My drawers are bursting with pre-printed self-stick return address labels.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 08:54 AM


"My neeples are borshting with excitement!"

- - Hungarian/English Phrase Book

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 08:59 AM (x0n13)

195 "Israel has to consider the rescue of hostages as secondary to wiping out Hamas, even if it means annihilating every man, woman and child in Gaza to do so."

That's two million people.

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Yeah, it would be a tragedy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 08:59 AM (RDD2k)

196 Newt has been a toad ever since he buddied up with Pelosi that one time...

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:00 AM (CI7Tw)

197 >>“These are terrorists who have no actual military agenda. Their only agenda is to murder as many Jews as possible…”


Iran has said repeatedly they plan to wipe Israel off the map. That would involve murdering as many Jews as possible. So. is it that surprising that they and their proxies are doing this, or just how?


Spoiler alert: They also mean it when they say "death to America."

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:00 AM (izj35)

198 It is astounding to those of us with Western thinking, incomprehensible in fact, to think of an attack with no military purpose or rationale at all. It's so idiotic, and literally insane - but that's what Hamas has done. And rational men, and rational societies, HAVE to attack and utterly destroy those who do such things, because they will come back and do it again, and again, and again. And trying to bargain with them only makes them bolder.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 08:57 AM (S6gqv)
++++
There is a military purpose, after a fashion. It is just not a military objective in the way we think about it - like "take that city" or "force a settlement on the issue of port access" or "conquer that nation and add its production and people to the empire" or "keep those bastards out" - but at a visceral level. It's "kill them all because their mere existence is unacceptable."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:00 AM (t0OGg)

199 Yeah, it would be a tragedy.

addendum: Shame they couldn't figure out how to get along while Israel bent over backwards to do everything for them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 09:00 AM (RDD2k)

200 You know I have always been a supporter of Israel. I've been to Israel. They are smart people. So why the fuck do they have to get the shit kicked out of them to realize gun control is just plain stupid and an invitation to the shit going on right now.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 10, 2023 08:59 AM (pohLc)

I don't get it, either. This world is full of stupid.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 10, 2023 09:00 AM (CBBR5)

201 190 "Israel has to consider the rescue of hostages as secondary to wiping out Hamas, even if it means annihilating every man, woman and child in Gaza to do so."

That's two million people.
Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at October 10, 2023 08:58 AM (MvF+J)

So be it. This is what is known in the trade as "war."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 09:01 AM (x0n13)

202 It requires the courage to - and to be willing to deal with the consequences of - telling the "International Community" to fuck off.

But yes. Cutting them off and starving them out will probably be effective.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 08:54 AM (t0OGg)

A siege takes too long - modern societies do not have the will or nerve to support a long siege with heavy civilian casualties.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 09:01 AM (S6gqv)

203 Their military purpose is simple. Wipe Israel off the map by any means required. It ain't rocket science.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 10, 2023 09:01 AM (pohLc)

204 Since everything is happening in the Gaza Strip, is there anything going in Golan Heights or the West Bank?

Posted by: dantesed at October 10, 2023 09:02 AM (88xKn)

205 Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 10, 2023 08:59 AM (pohLc)
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It's intentional, to guarantee control no matter what. Say thank you, America, for the 2A.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2023 09:02 AM (Zrwvp)

206 A person cannot confess with their mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in their heart that God raised him from the dead and persecute his human family.

People who hate God also hate Jews and Christians because they are Jesus’ human family. “All men will hate you because of me.”.

War is hell.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at October 10, 2023 09:02 AM (9X60i)

207 #178 addendum -- should have kept on scrolling!

Israel Defense Forces retweeted
Lt. Col. Richard Hecht @LtColRichard 6h [International Spokesperson of the IDF]
Just to be clear .

I was asked about exit from gaza I said they should check if Rafah is possibly open .
And that I’m not aware if its still open .

The IDF is not in charge of that crossing

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:02 AM (krqg6)

208 With watching the Israeli missles hitting targets in Gaza I suspect an extream lack of steel reinforcement in the buildings there. One missle levels a 4 or 5 story building.

And they all fall in their own footprint. Weird.

Posted by: Reforger at October 10, 2023 09:02 AM (3z/6E)

209 Fake-raped, privileged white girl parading around a mattress got miles of print, praise and photo coverage on the nightly news.

Real-raped--and dead--Jewish girl paraded around by her rapists and killers won't get a single line or mention on the nightly news.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 09:03 AM (a+vXW)

210 Gingrich is on Bartiromo and he is saying that the Ford carrier group should guarantee that if Hezbollah attacks Northern Israel it should intervene using planes and tomahawk cruise missile.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 10, 2023 08:59 AM (eNQKw)
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I disagree. Israel itself needs to nuke Lebanon, wherever appropriate.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2023 09:03 AM (Zrwvp)

211 Hezbollah has been firing a few rockets from Lebanon.

What have the idiots on the West Bank done?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:03 AM (CI7Tw)

212 People who hate God also hate Jews and Christians because they are Jesus’ human family. “All men will hate you because of me.”.

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It was posted yesterday, but Genesis 16 nailed the Arabs back when it was written.

Descendants of Ishmael, something like "won't ever be able to live in peace with anyone, ever"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 09:04 AM (RDD2k)

213 There is a military purpose, after a fashion. It is just not a military objective in the way we think about it - like "take that city" or "force a settlement on the issue of port access" or "conquer that nation and add its production and people to the empire" or "keep those bastards out" - but at a visceral level. It's "kill them all because their mere existence is unacceptable."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:00 AM (t0OGg)

The insane part of the plan is "Let's attack their weakest assets in a way guaranteed to enrage them, and leave their military assets completely untouched."

Pearl Harbor was terrible, but rational. It tried to take out our best offensive military assets.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 09:04 AM (S6gqv)

214 I wrote to my alma mater the year I graduated promising they would never see a penny from me.

They ask for money at least weekly for the last 40 years.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 09:05 AM (RIvkX)

215 The Hamas 'strategy' makes even less sense than when the Kzinti first met Humans.

"Scream and leap" seems rational in comparison.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:06 AM (CI7Tw)

216 Real-raped--and dead--Jewish girl paraded around by her rapists and killers won't get a single line or mention on the nightly news.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 09:03 AM (a+vXW)

I can't even tell you how angry that made me.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 10, 2023 09:06 AM (pohLc)

217 So Joe is actually gonna give a night time address ? Live ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 09:06 AM (bs+z0)

218 A siege takes too long - modern societies do not have the will or nerve to support a long siege with heavy civilian casualties.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 09:01 AM (S6gqv)
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Perhaps. Sieges are also perhaps more effective now. Cities and the like are much, much less resilient than they used to be. Everything runs on a knife's edge of high-efficiency systems. Blockading a city nowadays is difficult (many approaches, etc.) but the results might be outstanding in fairly short order if you can pull it off. And Gaza is fairly easy to blockade.

The real problem, I think, is the horror of such an action resulting in a loss of popular support on the besieger's side.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:06 AM (t0OGg)

219 "By the way, everything Greenfield writes concerning adherents to Islam can be substituted for Leftists."

The first and lasting impression while reading the Greenfield piece is and will be exactly that.
And if it's possible we, the patriots reminding in the USA, are LESS able and ready to fight the Leftist savages than Israel was for the Hamas Massacre. The long march of the Left through the institutions has nearly extinguished objective truth and the will to act on what we know to be truth.

Posted by: Voter theater. at October 10, 2023 09:06 AM (/5Who)

220 191 You know I have always been a supporter of Israel. I've been to Israel. They are smart people. So why the fuck do they have to get the shit kicked out of them to realize gun control is just plain stupid and an invitation to the shit going on right now.
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This shit would not have gone as far as it has if Citizens were able to defend themselves. Trusting your government is a crap shoot.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 09:07 AM (UsZOO)

221 Hezbollah has been firing a few rockets from Lebanon.

What have the idiots on the West Bank done?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:03 AM (CI7Tw)
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Exist.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:07 AM (t0OGg)

222 The insane part of the plan is "Let's attack their weakest assets in a way guaranteed to enrage them, and leave their military assets completely untouched."

Pearl Harbor was terrible, but rational. It tried to take out our best offensive military assets.
Posted by: Tom Se

It was not for the military benefit but the benefit with the savages in the strip, Tehran, elsewhere.

Also screws with us

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 09:07 AM (RjBju)

223 Schadenboner schwiiinnnggg!!!

Legal Insurrection

Germany is restarting three coal fired power plants in time for the winter demand.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:08 AM (CI7Tw)

224 > So Joe is actually gonna give a night time address ? Live ?

Posted by: It's me donna


I'm betting it'll be a pre-recorded message
Grandpa needs his rest

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 09:08 AM (geLO8)

225 -------------------
This shit would not have gone as far as it has if Citizens were able to defend themselves. Trusting your government is a crap shoot.
Posted by: Puddinh


Then they should not have voted away rhe right to do so

Posted by: N at October 10, 2023 09:08 AM (RjBju)

226 The insane part of the plan is "Let's attack their weakest assets in a way guaranteed to enrage them, and leave their military assets completely untouched."

Pearl Harbor was terrible, but rational. It tried to take out our best offensive military assets.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 09:04 AM (S6gqv)
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Unless it's a distraction to leave the north sparsely defended for a major action by Hezbollah out of Lebanon (or possibly ISIS-type groups out of Syria, but I doubt that because they're all fairly busy with the civil war there). Would Iran sacrifice a hundred thousand or a million Gazans to open a route from a better-supplied northern army? I don't have any trouble thinking they would.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:08 AM (t0OGg)

227 That's two million people.
Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at October 10, 2023 08:58 AM (MvF+J)

So be it. This is what is known in the trade as "war."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 09:01 AM (x0n13)
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The Gazans made the rules of engagement: kill them all.

Ok.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 09:09 AM (RIvkX)

228 I don’t trust the Brandon junta. They might say all the right things in press statements but I’m convinced they’ll shiv Israel in the back at every opportunity. Heck it was their cozying up to the Iranians that emboldened this kind of savagery

But at least no mean tweets, right?

Apropos of nothing… are they still called “tweets” or are they now “X’s” or something similar? The artist formerly known as Prince is asking…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 09:10 AM (Z1GI4)

229 >>It is astounding to those of us with Western thinking, incomprehensible in fact, to think of an attack with no military purpose or rationale at all.

Years ago, actor Larry Miller used to write an occasional column in the Weekly Standard (stay with me). There was an excellent one where he recounted a recent visit to Israel, specifically, a big hospital there (forget which one). He lauded the Jewish doctors and other staff caringly treating Jew and Palestinian alike, that they could all share the same ER waiting room, etc. The column ended with him asking one of the doctors (paraphrasing from memory) "What is the hardest part of your job?" The reply was: "It's tough when they cheer." Every time the ambulance drops off an injured IDF from a Palestinian attack, the ER erupted in cheers from the Palestinians.

Imagine cheering for death of the Jews while simultaneously receiving lifesaving treatment from a Jewish hospital?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:10 AM (izj35)

230 Syria?

Well it is still a dog's breakfast as various parties fight a proxy war there including Turkey and the US.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:10 AM (CI7Tw)

231 I figure there are psychological reasons as well.

"Israel is sending in the military when there weren't even any military targets!!! BOO!!!"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 09:10 AM (RDD2k)

232 Since everything is happening in the Gaza Strip, is there anything going in Golan Heights or the West Bank?
Posted by: dantesed at October 10, 2023 09:02 AM (88xKn)
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Nothing major or different in Judea & Samaria.

Golan had some action at the start of the week on Har Dov (Bear Mt.) in the Golan. Yesterday there was an attempted infiltration on the north border. Not clear how many infiltrators were killed and whether 1 or more escaped back. But an IDF officer was killed in the incident.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2023 09:10 AM (Zrwvp)

233 83 is the best post of the day, so far. Had to be said. Much of what's in 149 also had to be said IMHO (could've been said better). Carry on. Sad day.

Posted by: Despise Marxist & Obama Cabinet Rat Bastards at October 10, 2023 09:10 AM (5uy7A)

234 The problem with attacking Hamas "leadership" is that they aren't exactly world-beaters. They're filthy, semi-literate, low-IQ killers, who simply carry out orders from abroad. They can be replaced by literally anyone in the ranks.

When your direct enemy comes from the bottom of the barrel - then you just have to shatter the barrel.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 10, 2023 09:11 AM (0FoWg)

235 214 I wrote to my alma mater the year I graduated promising they would never see a penny from me.

They ask for money at least weekly for the last 40 years.
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There was a time when all colleges and universities strove to provide low cost education so as not to indebt the student. In those times it was a good thing to send your college an annual tithe. Nowadays, such money just goes into admin salaries to fund Obama's morbidly obsese Domestic Army.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 09:11 AM (UsZOO)

236 229 is also quite good

Posted by: Despise Marxist & Obama Cabinet Rat Bastards at October 10, 2023 09:11 AM (5uy7A)

237
The "Lid" Monday was evidently a cover for Joey and the special prosecutor to have a fun and games answer session about all the documents he had laying about.

Prediction: The findings will be nothing was done wrong, in total opposite of the Trumpmonster's Russian treason.

Posted by: Auspex at October 10, 2023 09:11 AM (j4U/Z)

238 Yes, there is unrest in the West Bank and fighting on the Lebanese border against/by the PIJ [Pali Islmic Jihad].

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:12 AM (krqg6)

239 Just like Hillary and her classified bathroom server, there was 'no intent' by Joey with the documents as he just needed bathroom reading material.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:13 AM (CI7Tw)

240 ah shit, 220 really grips me too. Ok, YOU'RE ALL GREAT. Carry on, Horde.

Posted by: Despise Marxist & Obama Cabinet Rat Bastards at October 10, 2023 09:13 AM (5uy7A)

241 yeah, SFp, "the aggressor sets the ROE".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 10, 2023 09:13 AM (+vFC3)

242 Netanyahu needs to channel Scipio Aemilianus.

Posted by: Mutnodjmet at October 10, 2023 09:13 AM (sPJyv)

243 Imagine cheering for death of the Jews while simultaneously receiving lifesaving treatment from a Jewish hospital?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:10 AM (izj35)

Gobsmacking…. Telling me a culture is dead beyond repair without telling me

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 10, 2023 09:13 AM (Z1GI4)

244 Imagine cheering for death of the Jews while simultaneously receiving lifesaving treatment from a Jewish hospital?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:10 AM (izj35)
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I can easily imagine it. It isn't even dissonant. We see it all the time from our own leftists, in a different form. The same people shouting "ACAB" or throwing eggs at soldiers are the first people to demand protection from them when someone calls them on their bullshit.

The subhumans - be they Jews or soldiers or whatever else - are there to serve the humans when the humans can't be bothered to kill them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:13 AM (t0OGg)

245
Prediction: The findings will be nothing was done wrong, in total opposite of the Trumpmonster's Russian treason.
Posted by: Auspex at October 10, 2023 09:11 AM (j4U/Z)

Of course...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 09:13 AM (bs+z0)

246 104 Bunches of rallies in Western cities of Pali symps celebrating massacred Jews.
I expect violence to follow in these places as well.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 10, 2023 08:36 AM (vHIgi)

There was one in NYC where a man shouted that Islam is the "correct" religion and that the entire world must be forced under its heel.

Posted by: XTC at October 10, 2023 09:14 AM (sm6Pk)

247 When your direct enemy comes from the bottom of the barrel - then you just have to shatter the barrel.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 10, 2023 09:11 AM (0FoWg)
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That's an evocative image.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:14 AM (t0OGg)

248 I think the population in the Gaza strip is more like 5M... not 2M.

The city called "Gaza" might have a population of 2M, but the other two large cities in the strip; Rafa and Khan Yunis probably are a million or so each. The whole strip is mostly an urban shit hole anyway.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 10, 2023 09:15 AM (Q4IgG)

249 Imagine cheering for death of the Jews while simultaneously receiving lifesaving treatment from a Jewish hospital?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:10 AM (izj35)
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They think the Israelis are suckers for treating them.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2023 09:15 AM (RIvkX)

250 >>Real-raped--and dead--Jewish girl paraded around by her rapists and killers won't get a single line or mention on the nightly news.

Just like Lara Logan's brutal gangrape was swept under the rug.

And hey, has the national news reported the details on the group of immigrants who kidnapped three girls in Wisconsin, then raped and tortured them?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:15 AM (izj35)

251 Do you think the various members of the junta take turns being POTD*?

like there's a rotating schedule?


*President Of The Day

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 09:15 AM (geLO8)

252 Prediction: The findings will be nothing was done wrong, in total opposite of the Trumpmonster's Russian treason.
Posted by: Auspex at October 10, 2023 09:11 AM (j4U/Z)

The Special Counsel will equivocate a bit and then exonerate Brandon, and his handlers will denounce the Special Counsel for not cupping Brandon's balls while he worked the shaft. Fin.

Tomorrow's News Today!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 10, 2023 09:15 AM (0FoWg)

253 JJ, thanks for the Morning Reports, especially today's.

Re: Biden's admin full of evil folk, although we knew about these creeps, to see that full listing is staggering.

Re: "We’re in a war between savages and civilization. Everything else is a detail." - This is all well-said. The evil cancer of savagery, strangling vines infiltrating so much of civilization, makes the fight against it especially complex. It's not just some vile lunatic over in Gaza, it's that college-"educated" family member. As you said, "…can be substituted for Leftists." Large scale or small, local or half-way 'round the world, "Either civilization or the savages will prevail. Any attempt at a middle ground is suicide."

The victory in Europe in WW2 did not end the evil ("I hate Illinois Nazis."); the end of the USSR did not stop socialist tyranny. Like the forest fire you thought was out that flares back up, you can't be vigilant enough.

Sorry, I'm rambling in rage. More coffee.

Posted by: mindful webworker - raw and unedited at October 10, 2023 09:16 AM (ks21X)

254 229 >>It is astounding to those of us with Western thinking, incomprehensible in fact, to think of an attack with no military purpose or rationale at all.
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In Medieval times an army would parade their strength in front of a city's walls. First, the armored knights/mercenaries, then the foot soldiers and at the end of the parade would come the unarmed criminals. The offer of the besieger was that if you surrendered without a fight the criminal battalions would not be unleashed on the city. If you fought and lost then the criminal battalions would be let loose to do what they wished.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 09:16 AM (UsZOO)

255 248 I looked it up before posting it. 2M in Gaza, 3M in West Bank. Yes, I think Gaza is 100% urban, but have not confirmed.

Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at October 10, 2023 09:16 AM (MvF+J)

256 There was one in NYC where a man shouted that Islam is the "correct" religion and that the entire world must be forced under its heel.
Posted by: XTC

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It's a dirty little secret that the MSM and government does their best to pretend isn't real, but the vast majority of practicing (think "praying") Muslims believe all societies should live under Muslim law and apostates should be executed.

When asked, the numbers *start* at 50% and go up from there. As you can imagine, the 50% are 1% or so of Western practitioners.

IIRC it's something like 3% of the worldwide total believes that people should be free to exist freely.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 09:18 AM (RDD2k)

257 >>I looked it up before posting it. 2M in Gaza, 3M in West Bank. Yes, I think Gaza is 100% urban, but have not confirmed.

Judging by the latest photos Gaza is about 50% rubble.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 09:18 AM (ZLI7S)

258 I have not seen Hezbollah do anything other than the normal low level bullshit that always goes on up there - a few mortars, a few useless idiots on motorcycles who get shot, a few unguided garage built rockets that hit nothing. None of those are serious efforts, that's just going through the motions to keep the money from the big backers coming in. It leads me to suspect that Hezbollah has gotten lazy, happy, and fat running Lebanon and they so no need to wreck that just to go die in Israel for Iran's sake. They're happy to see Hamas step up and take one for the team, of course.

And the West Bank is just going to spew out the usual bullshit and do nothing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 09:18 AM (S6gqv)

259 And hey, has the national news reported the details on the group of immigrants who kidnapped three girls in Wisconsin, then raped and tortured them?
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Haven't heard about this one. Hispanic or Muzzie or African?

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 09:18 AM (UsZOO)

260 So Gaza is beginning to resemble the worst parts of Newark and Detroit?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:19 AM (CI7Tw)

261 Black hat @WorldObserver0 1h
⚡️🇵🇸 Palestinian resistance fighters engages in clashes with the Israeli forces in Hebron city in the West Bank.

https://tinyurl.com/32pxpsej
27 seconds; doesn't look to effective other than getting allahu-akbars in. Nitter link.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:20 AM (krqg6)

262 It's pretty disgusting how many people are minimizing murder, torture, rape, and kidnapping. I can't believe what I'm reading here.

It is not antisemitism to express compassion for innocents who die in a war that they did not choose. Just as Jews (many flesh and blood in my own family) have nothing to do with Palestinians, there are many innocent Palestinians who have nothing to do with Israel. Hamas is a terrorist group. A two-state solution might have prevented this horrible outcome of hatred by those who feel oppressed.

Why bring that up now? Why can't people denounce terroristic crimes without bringing up something else? Why, when hundreds of innocent civilians have just been murdered in cold blood, do people have to bring up offenses carried out by somebody else entirely?

This is such horsesh*t. There is no state that is beyond criticism.It is not antisemitic to criticize the very real oppression of Palestinians in their homeland by Israel. It is, however, intellectually dishonest to equate criticism of Israeli political choices with being anti-Jewish or blaming Jews for the actions of distinct government actors.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 10, 2023 09:21 AM (JCZqz)

263 @jakejakeny

BREAKING: IDF has eliminated Hamas’ top money man, Abu Shmala

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 09:21 AM (ZLI7S)

264 Judging by the latest photos Gaza is about 50% rubble.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 09:18 AM (ZLI7S)

Oh no, not even close, it's probably less than 5%. I suspect that's why they are hesitating a bit, it's a daunting task, it'll be like having to go through all of Philadelphia door to door. (for comparison, 1.5 million population)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 09:21 AM (S6gqv)

265 260 So Gaza is beginning to resemble the worst parts of Newark and Detroit?
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Oddly, Newark is not as bad as Detroit. Both cities have adult leadership in their Police Forces. Not so much with Baltimore.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 10, 2023 09:21 AM (UsZOO)

266 @210 Biden's Dog, if Hezbollah starts firing a lot of rockets and missiles, Israel may no choice but to use a nuke

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 10, 2023 09:21 AM (eNQKw)

267 The victory in Europe in WW2 did not end the evil ("I hate Illinois Nazis."); the end of the USSR did not stop socialist tyranny. Like the forest fire you thought was out that flares back up, you can't be vigilant enough.

Sorry, I'm rambling in rage. More coffee.
Posted by: mindful webworker


Sure woke the Japs up though.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:21 AM (iyjVe)

268 Judging by the latest photos Gaza is about 50% rubble.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 09:18 AM (ZLI7S)


Well wait until the Israelis hit the place.

Posted by: blaster at October 10, 2023 09:22 AM (dWjpk)

269 Paul Ryan blathering on CNBC this am. His self righteous lecturing on Trump and outright lies about him was breathtaking. Ryan is fresh off of some weekend meeting of elites including the CEO of Blackrock and others who know how to solve the world s problems. Could not have praised McCarthy more.
Posted by: Jen the original at October 10, 2023 08:21 AM (pgR+m)

They--the American Left and their used car division known as the GOPe with McCarthy as they're bought and paid for 'Speaker' are not and will not relinquish power. McCarthy will prevail in the formality of taking his 'Speaker' role back unless Scalise and Jordan merge their alleged campaign to be Speaker or and if Trump risks all and goes for the Speakership. Matters not how much you loathe Trump (Ace et al) ...even Ace would not say Trump is a part of the GOPe Whores For the Left.

Posted by: Voter theater. at October 10, 2023 09:22 AM (/5Who)

270 > Yes, I think Gaza is 100% urban, but have not confirmed.

Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension


imagine what an authentic siege could accomplish
no water, electric, sewer system
no vehicle traffic in or out
no foot traffic in or out
no aviation service
no seaport operations
cruel but effective

it's just a thought experiment; this will never happen

Posted by: DB - at October 10, 2023 09:23 AM (geLO8)

271 Pearl Harbor was terrible, but rational. It tried to take out our best offensive military assets.
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And even more so as if the carriers had been there, they'd have been destroyed too. And they missed the oil storage as I saw in Midway on Saturday night!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:23 AM (krqg6)

272 Oh Hell No

Homeless advocates want to start housing their charges on MCAS Miramar. The Marine Commander told them to pound sand.

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=148408

I bet Darth Lloyd will tell Miramar to open their gates.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:23 AM (CI7Tw)

273 @jakejakeny

BREAKING: IDF has eliminated Hamas’ top money man, Abu Shmala
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 09:21 AM (ZLI7S)
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Another irrelevant "targeted" killing. Each one is replaceable.

FLATTEN GAZA!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2023 09:23 AM (Zrwvp)

274 I actually agree with the DU poster on something. I don't think the rank and file NPCs are anti-Semites.

I think they're pig ignorant technological savages who hate whomever they're commanded to hate, and without question.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 10, 2023 09:24 AM (0FoWg)

275 One small village on the north end of Gaza, Beit Hanoun, which was used as a staging area for the attacks might be getting close to 50% damage now.

That will be about 1% of the total damage Israel needs to inflict.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 09:24 AM (S6gqv)

276 Here's the Muslim pew poll. It's from 2017 so it's probably outdated and not as extreme as reality now:

https://tinyurl.com/2fbvndz3

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 09:24 AM (RDD2k)

277 ... It is not antisemitism to express compassion for innocents who die in a war that they did not choose. Just as Jews (many flesh and blood in my own family) have nothing to do with Palestinians, there are many innocent Palestinians who have nothing to do with Israel. Hamas is a terrorist group. A two-state solution might have prevented this horrible outcome of hatred by those who feel oppressed. ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 10, 2023 09:21 AM (JCZqz)
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False narrative, for two reasons.
First, Hamas is not a terror group (well not "just" that). Hamas is the government, elected in an overwhelming majority in a UN-observed election. Hamas is what Gaza wanted. Gaza agrees with Hamas and its objectives. There is no daylight between "Gazan" and "Hamas.:
Second, a two-state solution is untenable. A two-state solution can work only when both future states acknowledge the right of the other to exist. The best example of a "two-state solution" I can think of is the partition of India, and it hasn't exactly been all wine and roses.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:25 AM (t0OGg)

278 Years ago, actor Larry Miller used to write an occasional column in the Weekly Standard (stay with me).
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[stops reading]

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:25 AM (krqg6)

279 It was in Minnesota, the kidnappers were from South of the border:

Three girls were kidnapped, tortured and raped by an illegal immigrant gang in northern Minnesota recently. One of the girls was an 11-year-old.

Bemidji is located in a rural area in northern Minnesota near the source of the Mississippi River.

22-year-old Oscar Luna was arrested at the scene. Several men were identified at the scene and transported by US Border Patrol to be processed as illegal aliens. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:25 AM (izj35)

280 And even more so as if the carriers had been there, they'd have been destroyed too. And they missed the oil storage as I saw in Midway on Saturday night!
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:23 AM (krqg6)

That mistake was inexcusable, but the japs were starting to take casualties and got cold feet.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 10, 2023 09:25 AM (pohLc)

281 imagine what an authentic siege could accomplish
no water, electric, sewer system

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Surely the Hamas folks are running their own power and water plants!

/

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 09:25 AM (RDD2k)

282 flatten Gaza

salt the earth

make it a DMZ with monuments honoring the murdered Israelis, and booby trap the monuments, just in case

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2023 09:25 AM (AcWfM)

283 Robert Malley = Alger Hiss

The Biden Admin = Communists


Posted by: Archer at October 10, 2023 09:25 AM (gmo/4)

284 Pearl Harbor was terrible, but rational. It tried to take out our best offensive military assets.


One thing you have to at least acknowledge?
Japan hit military targets. They didn't go bombing random cities and civilians.

Unlike Hamas.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (iyjVe)

285 Imagine cheering for death of the Jews while simultaneously receiving lifesaving treatment from a Jewish hospital?
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Jizya, baby! We're owed it!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (krqg6)

286 "Israel has to consider the rescue of hostages as secondary to wiping out Hamas, even if it means annihilating every man, woman and child in Gaza to do so."

That's two million people.
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Merely a statistic, as their grandfather Joe used to say.

BTW, how many abortions do we permit every year as we are shedding tears for a death cult that dances and sings over raped, mutilated bodies of innocents?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (a+vXW)

287
Oh no, not even close, it's probably less than 5%. I suspect that's why they are hesitating a bit, it's a daunting task, it'll be like having to go through all of Philadelphia door to door. (for comparison, 1.5 million population)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 09:21 AM


I was just looking up Philadelphia yesterday and was surprised to see it has ~six million people. Average age around 38 iirc. That's pretty young for Pennsylvania.

BTW: Change your license and vehicle registration yet?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 09:27 AM (enJYY)

288 Palestinian resistance fighters engages in clashes with the Israeli forces in Hebron city in the West Bank.

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Hard to tell for sure, but looks like an American-made AR with a red dot

Yay.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 10, 2023 09:27 AM (RDD2k)

289 Second, a two-state solution is untenable. A two-state solution can work only when both future states acknowledge the right of the other to exist. The best example of a "two-state solution" I can think of is the partition of India, and it hasn't exactly been all wine and roses.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:25 AM (t0OGg)

There's also much better geographic separation there.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 09:27 AM (eYoxG)

290 We emphasize that there is no official call by Israel for residents of the Gaza Strip to exit into Egypt
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 08:55 AM (krqg6)

Egypt don't want them either. I am sure their border with Gaza is shut tight.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 09:27 AM (8sMut)

291 One thing you have to at least acknowledge?
Japan hit military targets. They didn't go bombing random cities and civilians.

Unlike Hamas.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (iyjVe)

Sorry, that wasn't true in China and other places.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 10, 2023 09:27 AM (pohLc)

292 One thing you have to at least acknowledge?
Japan hit military targets. They didn't go bombing random cities and civilians.

Unlike Hamas.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (iyjVe)
++++
When the violence is due not to discrete objective but rather due to a civilizational disagreement, there are no military or non-military targets. There are just targets.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:27 AM (t0OGg)

293 flatten Gaza

salt the earth

make it a DMZ with monuments honoring the murdered Israelis, and booby trap the monuments, just in case
Posted by: BlackOrchid


Make it glow. Deny them for 10,000 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:28 AM (iyjVe)

294 Flatten Gaza and then do it again to be sure

Posted by: Ben Had at October 10, 2023 09:28 AM (Lf7Zh)

295 They didn't go bombing random cities and civilians.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (iyjVe)
-

Wikipedia: Fu-Go balloon bomb

https://tinyurl.com/3n5jv5pm

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2023 09:28 AM (Zrwvp)

296 Hey a pizza is the least we can do

Wouldn't mind seeing the #RaytheonIDF site up and running.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 10, 2023 09:28 AM (4PZHB)

297 I'm sorry but there are no innocent Muslims the Crusaders were right, eradicate the infidel. Muslims are an affront to God.






Posted by: Archer at October 10, 2023 09:29 AM (gmo/4)

298 Today's Junta PR schedule:

1 pm ET - Joey Spongebrain public address

2 pm ET- Jake Sullivan and MopTop tell the press and us what to think about the new war

Posted by: GL at October 10, 2023 09:29 AM (5fDan)

299 >>Why can't people denounce terroristic crimes without bringing up something else? Why, when hundreds of innocent civilians have just been murdered in cold blood, do people have to bring up offenses carried out by somebody else entirely?


Physician, heal thyself.
Please check the DU response to the Nashville shooter for starters.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:29 AM (izj35)

300 re: Pearl Harbor

Nagumo was one of the biggest opponents to Yamamato's daring plan.

First wave caught the US napping so no real defense. Second wave ran into stiff resistance and aircraft with crews were lost.

And finally there were no carriers in port so that worried the Japanese.

So Nagumo declared mission accomplished because he had immobilized the US battle line and departed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:29 AM (CI7Tw)

301 NOOD

Art Thread is up.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 10, 2023 09:30 AM (qPw5n)

302 When the violence is due not to discrete objective but rather due to a civilizational disagreement, there are no military or non-military targets. There are just targets.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


I agree wholeheartedly.
I'm the one saying Make Gaza Glow.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:30 AM (iyjVe)

303 Japan hit military targets. They didn't go bombing random cities and civilians.


Several Chinese and Malaysian cities would beg to differ...

Posted by: Archer at October 10, 2023 09:30 AM (gmo/4)

304 One thing you have to at least acknowledge?
Japan hit military targets. They didn't go bombing random cities and civilians.

Unlike Hamas.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (iyjVe)


"Ahem!!!!"

- - Shanghai, Nanking, Manila, Bandoeng, Darwin. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 09:31 AM (x0n13)

305 Narendra Modi @narendramodi 4h
I thank Prime Minister @netanyahu for his phone call and providing an update on the ongoing situation. People of India stand firmly with Israel in this difficult hour. India strongly and unequivocally condemns terrorism in all its forms and manifestations.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:31 AM (krqg6)

306 279 It was in Minnesota, the kidnappers were from South of the border:

Three girls were kidnapped, tortured and raped by an illegal immigrant gang in northern Minnesota recently. One of the girls was an 11-year-old.

Bemidji is located in a rural area in northern Minnesota near the source of the Mississippi River.

22-year-old Oscar Luna was arrested at the scene. Several men were identified at the scene and transported by US Border Patrol to be processed as illegal aliens. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:25 AM (izj35)

So the victims can expect charges to be leveled at them by the State of MN, no doubt?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 09:32 AM (8sMut)

307 This is a live stream of gaza. Note that only a small portion close to Israel is being bombed. Last evening's live stream showed an area farther west with lots of traffic, lights and normal carrying on.
https://tinyurl.com/42wc6uvt

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 10, 2023 09:32 AM (2NHgQ)

308 Egypt don't want them either. I am sure their border with Gaza is shut tight.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 09:27 AM (8sMut)

I've read that at least 100,000 Gazans have already fled to Eqypt - I'm sure they all had to pay the border guards quite a chunk of change to get in. That border is the opposite of ours right now, it's not the poor who are fleeing across it, but the wealthy. The poor will stay in place and die.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2023 09:32 AM (S6gqv)

309 *coughs*

Japanese soldiers went through hospitals and killed the wounded in their beds.

Then there was the IJN Akikaze which executed and tossed overboard Catholic and Christian missionaries.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2023 09:33 AM (CI7Tw)

310 There's also much better geographic separation there.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 10, 2023 09:27 AM (eYoxG)
++++
There is. And there has also been 70 years of intermittent violence over Jammu and Kashmir around the "Line of Control."

And the first "two-state solution" there failed, because of geography. What is today Bangladesh was part of Pakistan, but there was a lot of India between the two and it didn't last very long before it became a "three-state solution." That exact problem is also there in Israel. There is a lot of Israel between Gaza and the West Bank.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:34 AM (t0OGg)

311 "And hey, has the national news reported the details on the group of immigrants who kidnapped three girls in Wisconsin, then raped and tortured them?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2023 09:15 AM (izj35)"

I live in WI, and I never heard about that!

link?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 10, 2023 09:34 AM (+vFC3)

312 BTW, the Black Hat Hamasshole I cite has been complaining about killed Moslem journalists [ignoring that if they're embedded with Hamas terrorists, then it proves the IDF is targeting terrorists and not civilians]...

Judah Ari Gross @JudahAriGross 7h
The Committee to Protect Journalists has not put out any information about any Israeli journalist killed, injured or missing, and there absolutely have been.

Absolutely shameful conduct.

Lahav Harkov @LahavHarkov 2h
Jewish journalists are being murdered and taken hostage, and @pressfreedom is silent.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:35 AM (krqg6)

313 never mind, I see it now ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 10, 2023 09:36 AM (+vFC3)

314 The attack on Israel has left me unsettled, worse actually, something I haven't felt since 9-11. As 9-11 faded it became clearer how well al-Qaeda understood, or so it seemed, that it would lay the seeds for a police state every hungry for more security at the expense of our freedom, that we would spend enormous sums going after these enemies only to become mired in endless wars. With these in mind I have been trying open the puzzle box behind the barbaric Hamas attack, bearing witness to this evil so when our common enemies fill the air with dust I will see through that, and finding quiet moments to weep with Israel. What comes next is not Israel's war. It is our war, maybe even existential war against pure evil last seen unleashed in 1939. This war began in the 7th century and recently metastasized again in Tehran and then spread its cancer, realized not only as Hamas, but into the Western nations where it is festering. Evil is persistent and the atrocities unleashed in 1939 soon leapt to 1948 and has since then persistently sought the extermination of the Jewish people. Like 9-11 clarity is coming to me and that clarity is this evil is hunting our extermination too.

Posted by: lost in space at October 10, 2023 09:39 AM (0WYmJ)

315 When Americans Do the Job Their Police Won’t Do
___________

They'll be arrested...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 10, 2023 08:17 AM (Q4IgG)

Then, as Kim DuToit once stated on one of his 'bug out' essays, the police are no longer your 'friends'".

Posted by: thatcrazyguy now with twice the crazy at October 10, 2023 09:41 AM (h4nev)

316 NEXTA @nexta_tv 17m
Egypt has closed the Rafah crossing on the border with the Gaza Strip

The reason for the decision was the IDF's intention to "operate in that area," an unnamed Egyptian official told Haaretz. He said the crossing was closed "to ensure peace" and not at Israel's request.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:41 AM (krqg6)

317 BTW, how many abortions do we permit every year as we are shedding tears for a death cult that dances and sings over raped, mutilated bodies of innocents?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (a+vXW)

Sounds like something you need to take up with your state government.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 09:42 AM (8sMut)

318 @nexta_tv
Egypt has closed the Rafah crossing on the border with the Gaza Strip

The reason for the decision was the IDF's intention to "operate in that area," an unnamed Egyptian official told Haaretz. He said the crossing was closed "to ensure peace" and not at Israel's request.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:41 AM (krqg6)
++++
So Egypt is hanging Gaza out to dry, closing off an evacuation route and likely will not break Israel's blockade. That's a fairly big deal, I think.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:42 AM (t0OGg)

319 Judging by the latest photos Gaza is about 50% rubble.

This is so, but then again, every photo I have ever seen of Gaza had about 50% rubble. Could just be a Gaza Thing.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 10, 2023 09:44 AM (4PZHB)

320 You know, we can rate Obama or Biden as the "worst President" but we have to add a caveat, "the worst since Jimmy Carter."

Withdrawing support for the Shah of Iran led to the Mullahs which led to the Embassy Hostages which led to bin Laden deciding the US was weak-kneed which led to 9-11...

Withdrawing support for the Shah of Iran led to the Mullahs which led to the Embassy Hostages which led to Carter needing a counterweight to the mullahs which led to Saddam Hussein...

These are the global consequences of a seemingly innocuous, local decision made by a feckless leader. Obama nearly repeated the mistake with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. But there we supported the strongman to counter it.

Posted by: thesgm at October 10, 2023 09:44 AM (VhDvQ)

321 Joe Mannix. Or Egypt does want the murderous savages anywhere near their country permanently.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 10, 2023 09:44 AM (2NHgQ)

322 doesn't not does, dammit

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 10, 2023 09:45 AM (2NHgQ)

323 Joe Mannix. Or Egypt does want the murderous savages anywhere near their country permanently.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 10, 2023 09:44 AM (2NHgQ)
++++
This is the same thing, just in different terms. If Egypt is finished with the "Palestinians" then that is a meaningful development.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:45 AM (t0OGg)

324 Then, as Kim DuToit once stated on one of his 'bug out' essays, the police are no longer your 'friends'".
Posted by: thatcrazyguy now with twice the crazy at October 10, 2023 09:41 AM (h4nev)

The police have never been our friends. (I'm sorry, but what is it that they grudgingly tell you when arrested? Why do we have: DAs, judges, and finally, juries? Because the police are not the last word in the system. Those other elements should, if the system works, keep the police in check.)

I want to like them for doing a thankless job, and for investigating crime (their true role), but their behavior consistently does otherwise.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 09:45 AM (8sMut)

325 "The only difference between Hamas and the American left is, they don't have a naked body of their enemy to parade through the streets."

Hope they start with Rep Tlaib.
Posted by: sidney at October 10, 2023 08:46 AM (Uy/WF)

Or AOC. I denounce myself.

Posted by: thatcrazyguy now with twice the crazy at October 10, 2023 09:46 AM (h4nev)

326 They showed that Malley had helped to infiltrate an Iranian agent of influence named Ariane Tabatabai into some of the most sensitive positions in the U.S. government—first at the State Department and now the Pentagon, where she has been serving as chief of staff for the assistant secretary of defense for special operations, Christopher Maier.

Posted by: SMOD at October 10, 2023 09:46 AM (RHGPo)

327 @nexta_tv
Egypt has closed the Rafah crossing on the border with the Gaza Strip

The reason for the decision was the IDF's intention to "operate in that area," an unnamed Egyptian official told Haaretz. He said the crossing was closed "to ensure peace" and not at Israel's request.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 10, 2023 09:41 AM (krqg6)
++++
So Egypt is hanging Gaza out to dry, closing off an evacuation route and likely will not break Israel's blockade. That's a fairly big deal, I think.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

They don't want 2 million refuges and Hamas getting their mail in Egypt. Yes, I too think it is a big deal.

Posted by: lost in space at October 10, 2023 09:47 AM (0WYmJ)

328 304 One thing you have to at least acknowledge?
Japan hit military targets. They didn't go bombing random cities and civilians.

Unlike Hamas.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (iyjVe)


"Ahem!!!!"

- - Shanghai, Nanking, Manila, Bandoeng, Darwin. . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 09:31 AM (x0n13)

et al

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 09:47 AM (8sMut)

329 One thing you have to at least acknowledge?
Japan hit military targets. They didn't go bombing random cities and civilians.

Unlike Hamas.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2023 09:26 AM (iyjVe)


"Ahem!!!!"

- - Shanghai, Nanking, Manila, Bandoeng, Darwin. . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 09:31 AM (x0n13)

et al
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Seconded. Imperial Japan was pure evil.

Posted by: lost in space at October 10, 2023 09:48 AM (0WYmJ)

330 GregGutfeld
@greggutfeld

hey
@pitchfork
- anything new happening in the world of music festivals? for a music site so giddy to cover bands boycotting israel - yet now, you've fallen silent. why is that?

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 10, 2023 09:49 AM (TGPs7)

331 It is just as simple as savagery destroying civilization. It is a war of survival. It will be demonstrated in this country just as it is being demonstrated in Israel. We will have to fight or die. May GOD bless Israel, and us.

Posted by: Eromero at October 10, 2023 09:49 AM (NxC5+)

332 Still watching the live cam from gaza. hamas shoots off a missile or two and within minutes the launch site is bombed. Good shooting IDF.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 10, 2023 09:49 AM (2NHgQ)

333 >>This is the same thing, just in different terms. If Egypt is finished with the "Palestinians" then that is a meaningful development.

The truth is every Arab country has been finished with the Palestinians for years. They use them as an excuse for their hatred of Israel and to explain why their countries are backward crap holes compared to Israel but they want nothing to do with taking them in.

Been this way forever. They insist Israel take them but won't open their own doors.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 09:51 AM (ZLI7S)

334 Hope they start with Rep Tlaib.
Posted by: sidney at October 10, 2023 08:46 AM (Uy/WF)


Make Coelacanths Extinct Again!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 09:52 AM (x0n13)

335 334 Hope they start with Rep Tlaib.
Posted by: sidney at October 10, 2023 08:46 AM (Uy/WF)


Her brother marrying towel head buddy says Israel fighting back may be considered a war crime....

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2023 09:53 AM (bs+z0)

336 The police have never been our friends. (I'm sorry, but what is it that they grudgingly tell you when arrested? Why do we have: DAs, judges, and finally, juries? Because the police are not the last word in the system. Those other elements should, if the system works, keep the police in check.)

I want to like them for doing a thankless job, and for investigating crime (their true role), but their behavior consistently does otherwise.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 09:45 AM (8sMut)

Agreed. 100%.

Posted by: thatcrazyguy now with twice the crazy at October 10, 2023 09:56 AM (h4nev)

337 The truth is every Arab country has been finished with the Palestinians for years. They use them as an excuse for their hatred of Israel and to explain why their countries are backward crap holes compared to Israel but they want nothing to do with taking them in.

Been this way forever. They insist Israel take them but won't open their own doors.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 09:51 AM (ZLI7S)
++++
Yes, of course, but in the past the Arab states have gotten involved. Egypt saying, "Nah, bro" and sitting it out is a good development.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 09:57 AM (t0OGg)

338 The art thread is past 100. Going to switch over to it. And yes what Mannix said and what I said are the same, they don't want the refugee scum.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 10, 2023 09:57 AM (2NHgQ)

339
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2023 09:52 AM

Question for you... one time you were referring to the ghetto's of Germany and you seemed to imply you had something on your chest about the term but I've never seen a follow up.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2023 10:00 AM (enJYY)

340
"Inflation destroyed 50% of our wealth in the last two years. Boom. Gone."

I see the effects of inflation every day on the job so there is no denying it exists, but 50%? Seems high.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 10, 2023 10:00 AM (8sMut)

341 Stockholm ... about to become Beirut if they sic the Army on the "trouble makers" ... car bombing of a Government Building in 5 4 3 2 ......

Posted by: Qmark at October 10, 2023 10:01 AM (gLAge)

342 Ironically, Malley is Jewish. Why does he hate Jews so much?

Yasser Arafat was a close friend of the family and is Robert Malley's "godfather". He also went to school with Antony Blinken in France and Obama at Harvard Law. A person like this should be nowhere near American foreign policy.

Posted by: SL at October 10, 2023 10:02 AM (pMmVV)

343 >>Yes, of course, but in the past the Arab states have gotten involved. Egypt saying, "Nah, bro" and sitting it out is a good development.

I think the barbarity of these attacks has changed the dynamic a bit. What Hamas is doing is subhuman. Murdering women, elderly, babies, rape, beheadings, burning people alive. These are indefensible acts that no amount of perceived oppression can justify.

How can you give any support to these animals let alone let them into your country?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 10:03 AM (ZLI7S)

344 I think the barbarity of these attacks has changed the dynamic a bit. What Hamas is doing is subhuman. Murdering women, elderly, babies, rape, beheadings, burning people alive. These are indefensible acts that no amount of perceived oppression can justify.

How can you give any support to these animals let alone let them into your country?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 10:03 AM (ZLI7S)
++++
Oh, you'd never let them in. But support them? That's been the norm of the Arab states for decades on end. There's a reason that Egypt and Jordan and Syria and Lebanon never, ever put repatriation of the "Palestinians" on the table. They do not want those people and never have. They've been perfectly happy to arm them and turn them loose on Israel in the past, however.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 10, 2023 10:06 AM (t0OGg)

345 This is from Melbourne, Australia.

Australian Jewish Associaton

@AustralianJA

AJA has seen multiple reports about a carload of Arabs hunting for Jews

Corner Williams & Toorak rd

Authorities are aware

Stay safe

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2023 10:07 AM (ZLI7S)

346 For the longest time, I could not understand what I perceived as the heartlessness of God when He ordered Jews to wipe out towns they were to inhabit. It seemed devoid of compassion that is so characteristically on display in the life of Jesus and anathema to what a "loving God" would ask of His followers.

And then ISIS arose. And I began to understand the depravity to which an entire culture could stoop. And I realized how incompatible with humanity they would be if left intact. And we're seeing it now in Israel's neighbors.

Posted by: red speck at October 10, 2023 10:08 AM (0Id0S)

347 If our Western governments weren't so corrupted by a century of Leftism Israel wouldn't be the only army going into Gaza for what is going to be an urban battle not seen since WII. Something is hitting me in the gut about this and that something says this isn't Israel's war, it is our war. This current iteration of Islamic terrorism began in Tehran and it ends in Tehran. Gaza is the first island on the journey and it needs to be altered so fundamentally that it can never threaten Israel again.

Posted by: lost in space at October 10, 2023 10:16 AM (0WYmJ)

348 'Morning, all. Thanks, J.J.

I'm sorry. I've been trying to come up with the right words but, for now, only a single word - orchestrated - comes to mind.

Israel will only be permitted to defend, & then restrained from going farther. It's already being said time & time again in certain terms. Further, what has recently resurfaced is the topic of the Oslo Accords, as the 30 year anniversary of signature between Israeli & Palestinian leaders was September 13th. An interesting read, for example, Just Security, "The Last Chance for a Two-State Solution for Israelis and Palestinians May Be to Think Much Bigger," by Jonathan Panikoff, Aug 7, '23.

That & the US seems so very unconcerned about its own borders; the lack of security, rapid changes treading toward evil & the violence within. Allowed? Orchestrated? Different from that seen & experienced during my many past years. I weep.

Solidarity with Israel.


Posted by: L - Practice mades perfect. They know their enemies at October 10, 2023 10:25 AM (GshMh)

349 The Golden Boy, Obama, hasn't made a peep yet

Posted by: jeff at October 10, 2023 10:36 AM (pvt9V)

350 349. The Hill, yesterday: “All Americans should be horrified and outraged by the brazen terrorist attacks on Israel and the slaughter of innocent civilians. We grieve for those who died, pray for the safe return of those who’ve been held hostage, and stand squarely alongside our ally, Israel, as it dismantles Hamas,” Obama said in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter.

“As we support Israel’s right to defend itself against terror, we must keep striving for a just and lasting peace for Israelis and Palestinians alike,” the former president added.

Posted by: L - Practice mades perfect. They know their enemies at October 10, 2023 11:08 AM (GshMh)

351 My comments on Israel are this...

The Israelis need to carpet bomb every square inch of Gaza and then shoot any one attempting to crawl out of the rubble.

It's Hama time baby.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at October 10, 2023 11:48 AM (wo6n0)

352 262 Post-thread analysis: 262 is the undeniable best post of the day. Hands down. No contest. Copied. Kept. Hopefully, we will have the courage to take it to heart.

Posted by: Despise Marxist & Obama Cabinet Rat Bastards at October 10, 2023 11:53 AM (5DfsO)

353 Is it me or there a lot of Jewish sounding names in the Biden junta that hate Israel and in my mind Jews?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 10, 2023 11:58 AM (17s+e)

354 Sherman had it right:
Sherman summed up the goal of his military maneuvers in grim terms: "We cannot change the hearts of those people, but we can make war so terrible... [and] make them so sick of war that generations would pass away before they would again appeal to it."

Posted by: docweasel at October 10, 2023 12:30 PM (3KNTG)

355
All hail Sultan Knish!

And you did an excellent job yourself, Mr. Sefton. Well said all the way through.
The brutal truth is that Islam was born from a megalomanical barbarian, mohamed. At it's hardcore, it is spiritually toxic. It should not be considered a genuine monotheism.

Posted by: Bach in Black at October 10, 2023 12:34 PM (dBoDT)

356
Let me do a better job on that penultimate sentence:
"At its core, Islam is spiritually toxic."

Posted by: Bach in Black at October 10, 2023 12:43 PM (dBoDT)

357 Robert Malley comes from a family of anti-US, pro-Iran and pro-PLO crazies.

No wonder Obama/Obama II hired him as adviser.

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Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat