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Thank you Annie for the Prayer Revival. There are countless Morons who appreciate your efforts. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Good morning Mis Hum
Posted by: Skip at October 07, 2023 09:00 AM (fwDg9) 2
Prayers for Israel.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2023 09:01 AM (lwOKI) 3
love that
Posted by: Ciampino - B-52 - carpet bombing - no more Gaza at October 07, 2023 09:02 AM (qfLjt) 4
Good morning everyone. Prayers for all intentions - those stated and those known but to God.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 09:02 AM (x7plP) 5
Bold prayers are extra good!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 07, 2023 09:03 AM (PiwSw) 6
Bold
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2023 09:03 AM (I8crj) 7
Not a big worry, but last week found I have a hernia. Been working but watching not lifting too much at once.
Save the prayers for Israel for now. Posted by: Skip at October 07, 2023 09:03 AM (fwDg9) 8
There's a bad moon on the rise...
Kim Dotcom @KimDotcom Understanding the Hamas attack on Israel: Iran is aiming for a confrontation with Israel and the US. The success of Russia in Ukraine is encouraging Iran to undo decades of hostile US foreign policy in the Middle East. A bankrupt US Govt has just been invited to another war. The timing is opportunistic. The US Govt is forced to print trillions of USD as it struggles to raise new debt. Another war would lead to a significant increase in inflation and an accelerated economic decline of the US. If Iran mines the Strait of Hormuz the global energy crisis would become critical. The Biden administration has used the majority of US oil reserves to stabilize domestic oil prices. Iran can increase the pain for the US Govt significantly. Ukraine is turning into a major defeat for the US and NATO. A new front in the Middle East would accelerate the US decline. The US Govt and its western partners simply cannot afford it. Russia and China would benefit most. Iran understands this and is playing into the hands of its partners. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:04 AM (TGPs7) 9
not bold?
Posted by: Ciampino - B-52 - carpet bombing - no more Gaza at October 07, 2023 09:04 AM (qfLjt) 10
The prayers go boldly forward...
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:04 AM (TGPs7) 11
not even this?
Posted by: Ciampino - B-52 - carpet bombing - no more Gaza at October 07, 2023 09:05 AM (qfLjt) 12
To boldly pray...
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 07, 2023 09:05 AM (NBVIP) Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 09:05 AM (x7plP) 14
Working now on a plumbing leak from yesterday under the kitchen sink. Have the copper parts on hand but will need a new flexible connection.
Posted by: Skip at October 07, 2023 09:06 AM (fwDg9) 15
test
Posted by: DB - at October 07, 2023 09:06 AM (geLO8) 16
Good morning everyone. Prayers for all intentions - those stated and those known but to God.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 09:02 AM (x7plP) Seconded and affirmed! Posted by: Count de Monet at October 07, 2023 09:06 AM (4I/2K) 17
Bit chilly here, S IL 46°F
Posted by: Ciampino - B-52 - carpet bombing - no more Gaza at October 07, 2023 09:07 AM (qfLjt) 18
Good morning again dear morons and thank you mh and annie
An update on my dear friend Paul. He has elected to discontinue further treatment of his cancer. I am flying out this week in hope he will see me for his birthday Friday. Please continue to pray for his complete and immediate healing. Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:07 AM (RIvkX) 19
Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow Make no mistake. This is Israel’s 9/11. And Biden’s appeasement of the Palestinian terrorists, pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into their coffers, and transferring $6 billion to the Iranian terror state, which arms these terrorists, contributed to this. Biden even held up a peace deal between the Israelis and Saudi Arabia insisting Israel make further concessions to the Palestinian terrorists. When will the Democrat Party and their stinken State Department learn that the goal of the Palestinian terrorists and their Iranian masters is another Holocaust. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:07 AM (TGPs7) 20
Prayers also for Paul San Franpsycho.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 09:08 AM (x7plP) 21
Pray for enlightenment among many...
Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️ @tribelaw Is Netanyahu wagging the dog of war to take attention away from his own war on the independent judiciary? Can anyone put that past him? Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:10 AM (TGPs7) 22
Thank you TP
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:10 AM (RIvkX) 23
Re: the war thread below. The missiles launched by Hamas today were all paid for by Biden's cash handouts to Iran. As if anyone didn't know, Hamas is Iran's proxy army. Thus attack was all at Iran's direction, which is also why they don't care that Hamas will be slaughtered in the end. They were built up by Iran just to kill as many Israelis as possible, and then be discarded.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 09:12 AM (S6gqv) 24
Hopefully the mad mullahs have overplayed their hand and soon will be exterminated like the vermin they are.
Long overdue. May God Bless the brave people of Israel and their IDF as they battle these evil bastards. More coffee… Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 07, 2023 09:12 AM (R/m4+) 25
Zineb Riboua
@zriboua The video of the killed naked woman that was captured while Hamas terrorists were in a joyful parade cheering and dancing, is the most horrifying thing I have ever seen. I’m sure diplomacy and negotiations will work. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:12 AM (TGPs7) 26
Ukraine is turning into a major defeat for the US and NATO. A new front in the Middle East would accelerate the US decline. The US Govt and its western partners simply cannot afford it. Russia and China would benefit most. Iran understands this and is playing into the hands of its partners.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:04 AM (TGPs7) They were told this would happen. But they're Ivy Leaguers. They know better than stupid state college rubes who only have eyes to see and know history and human nature. Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 07, 2023 09:13 AM (Angsy) 27
Because to you, Tribe, everything is a lie and every act is a means to power.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:13 AM (RIvkX) 28
Is Netanyahu wagging the dog of war to take attention away from his own war on the independent judiciary?
Can anyone put that past him? Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:10 AM (TGPs7) Fuck you loser. Get lost. Can someone ban this asshole Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 09:14 AM (pmmLi) 29
When will the Democrat Party and their stinken State Department learn that the goal of the Palestinian terrorists and their Iranian masters is another Holocaust.
Posted by: Mister Ghost There are elements within SD, the IC and the WH who are applauding this. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 07, 2023 09:14 AM (hhY7K) 30
The funny thing about Laurence Tribe and those like him: they have been claiming that Netanyahu was going to start a war for years now, while in fact Bibi has done everything he can (too much, actually) to avoid one. Tribe is one of those people who would have said Poland started the war with Germany.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 09:15 AM (S6gqv) 31
NGU he is quoting Lawrence Tribe
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:16 AM (RIvkX) 32
Enes FREEDOM
@EnesFreedom Horrific and heartbreaking scenes from Israel. Dead people being stripped and paraded about like trophies on trucks, elderly women being driven into Gaza as hostages and the 5,000 rockets raining upon innocent civilians in Israel. UNACCEPTABLE!!! As a Muslim, I strongly condemn the current attacks against #Israel. I express my full solidarity with the victims, their families and loved ones. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:17 AM (TGPs7) 33
Tribe is one of those people who would have said Poland started the war with Germany.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 09:15 AM (S6gqv) Well, that's the way I heard it. Posted by: A. Schicklgruber at October 07, 2023 09:17 AM (4I/2K) 34
NGU he is quoting Lawrence Tribe
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:16 AM (RIvkX) Oh my bad. Sorry Mister Ghost Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 09:18 AM (pmmLi) 35
Sorry Mister Ghost, I am a bit on edge this AM
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 09:19 AM (pmmLi) 36
Please use "nood" alone rather than a cute phrase that makes it sound like you're waiting for/hoping for a nood.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 09:21 AM (krqg6) 37
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 56m
BREAKING - Qatar says Israel alone responsible for the ongoing escalation of violence with the Palestinian people: foreign ministry Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 09:21 AM (krqg6) 38
Newsflash - the GOAL of the Democrat Party. And our State Department is another holocaust. They are giving piles of cash to Iran so that the Iranians can build a nuclear arsenal and erase both the Saudis and the Israelis. The Saudis have realized this, which is why they have now deliberately using their control over oil pricing to destroy America's power in the region.
When the SPR runs out in 12-16 months, they will have succeeded and American power will be broken forever. I believe our State Dept knows this, hence the rush to try to help the Iranians start a widespread regional war now.. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 09:21 AM (S6gqv) 39
I'd like to ask for prayers for my dear friend and former neighbor, Kathleen who has been diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer and is currently undergoing chemo.
Posted by: Halfhand at October 07, 2023 09:21 AM (YBj+x) 40
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 29m
BREAKING - German airline Lufthansa cuts flights to Israel: spokesperson Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 09:21 AM (krqg6) 41
Good morning! Today is the Feast of Our Lady of Victory and the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto. It has subsequently be renamed the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary, but the original designation seems to be making a comeback. There are many parishes that use the original form for their patron.
It is the perfect time for us to reflect on the many blessings that have been given to us, and to recall that much of the evils that we are seeing exist because so many people think this life is all there is. It is not. As we contemplate wars and rumors of wars, let us take a moment to enjoy the peace of God and offer praise to the Blessed Virgin Mary, who comforts all those who ask for it. Ave Maria! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 09:21 AM (llXky) 42
There is nothing on Israel on the ewetub suggested news feed.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 07, 2023 09:22 AM (OuISO) 43
Whoa, Nellie!
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 37m BREAKING: London Mayor Sadiq Khan condemns 'the terrorist acts of Hamas' Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 09:22 AM (krqg6) 44
At times like this, it's a good idea to observe the reactions by various people and entities. Make note of your enemies and your friends and plan accordingly.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 07, 2023 09:22 AM (YRsIm) 45
Prayers for all the Horde, and for Israel.
God have mercy on us, and deliver us from evil. Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 09:22 AM (vHIgi) 46
But I think they moved way too soon - Hamas will be crushed at a terrible civilian cost but little military cost, and that military asset will have been thrown away for next to nothing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 09:22 AM (S6gqv) 47
Thank you Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 09:23 AM (x7plP) 48
Good morning to my fellow coffee loving and prayer offering Hordelings!
Quite a coincidence on the top photo, Mis Hum. Immediately prior to stopping by here, I just completed an order for supplies for my upcoming road trip to the TX MoMe - including a new thermos like the one in the photo. Get out of my head!! Posted by: Doof at October 07, 2023 09:24 AM (BiuMW) 49
I ha had jello today.
Posted by: Official Statement from Senator John Fetterman at October 07, 2023 09:24 AM (PiwSw) 50
Prayers for Paul ended in tears. May they sway God. Thank you, San Fran.
Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2023 09:25 AM (cTCuP) 51
Nothing about Israel on Insty. WTF?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 07, 2023 09:26 AM (OuISO) 52
Cool, breezy and sunny here at Schloss Hadrian this morning. A good time to get the pens in the kennel swept and scrubbed, the floor mats washed down and the work area vacuumed. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2023 09:26 AM (MoZTd) 53
San Franpsycho, blessings to your good friend Paul. You going to him will bring him great comfort. My Aunt faced and made that same decision as Paul; once made she found great serenity. May Paul find that too.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 07, 2023 09:27 AM (CtmUH) 54
Good morning! Today is the Feast of Our Lady of Victory and the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto. It has subsequently be renamed the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary, but the original designation seems to be making a comeback. There are many parishes that use the original form for their patron. A couple of years ago, our curate based his sermon on Our Lady of Victory and mentioned the Battle of Lepanto. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2023 09:28 AM (MoZTd) 55
Prayer for all asking and unasked.
I have a one time request. Prayer for my friend and coworkers father. 92 and curled up into a ball on Hospice. Only allowable drugs are Morphine. I pray he passed peacefully in his sleep last night. It's horrible to see someone in so much pain that Morphine won't hardly even touch it. Barely able to breath. Posted by: Reforger at October 07, 2023 09:28 AM (YvSrC) 56
Morning, all! Not a great morning in many ways, but it has a few things to recommend it locally. Da Swamp's temps have sagged a little from yesterday's 78 at dawn to about 70; temps are supposed to stay under 80 today, and dip into the low 60s (!) tonight.
The Kittenish Thugs are romping and play-fighting. Maybe they feel the lower humidity too (though my A/C is still running, as it has to, and the humidity is low in here). An uptown district is holding its annual Art Gallery night, where most of the businesses for a mile or so along the main avenue stay open late, and many offer free wine and cheese or other snacks. Since the weather is actually fairly pleasant for once (though it won't last), we plan to go. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 07, 2023 09:29 AM (omVj0) 57
Today is the Feast of Our Lady of Victory and the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto
The evil mohammedans like to attack on the anniversaries of their defeats. Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 07, 2023 09:29 AM (ZzJPt) 58
And an update on Q's back...
The permanent nerve stimulator will be implanted at the end of the month. He swears it's going to get him back to work. I think it will, too. Well, that and our prayers. I'm grateful beyond words. 'Rons. Teh Horde is a powerful force. Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2023 09:30 AM (cTCuP) 59
Thank you creeper and LiS the last few days have been very difficult.
He lost his mom to leukemia when we were both 14 and the echoes have been enormously painful. Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:30 AM (RIvkX) 60
Today we are heading Up North to the Straits of Mackinac for Fort Fright. Should be a fun day away from things I cannot help and should not worry about. It's a beautiful fall day here, and I will not take that blessing for granted.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 09:30 AM (llXky) 61
Today is the Feast of Our Lady of Victory and the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto. It has subsequently be renamed the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary, but the original designation seems to be making a comeback. There are many parishes that use the original form for their patron.
--- My lovely wife is at Mass now and is leading the Rosary immediately after with her women's group. I'll have to ask her which designation they used. Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 09:30 AM (x7plP) 62
Just saw a vid of a young Israeli woman being dragged out of a jeep's back and transferred to the back seat. Her pant seat was stained with so much blood. I assume from being brutally raped.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 09:31 AM (vHIgi) 63
And in other news, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers have revised their estimate of when the salt water intrusion, the "wedge," will reach the metro area here. It was originally late this month. Now it's late November, and *it may not get here at all*. Of course, these are the "experts" who swore to us that our levees were solid and unbreachable in 2005, so . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 07, 2023 09:31 AM (omVj0) 64
And in other news, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers have revised their estimate of when the salt water intrusion, the "wedge," will reach the metro area here. It was originally late this month. Now it's late November, and *it may not get here at all*. Of course, these are the "experts" who swore to us that our levees were solid and unbreachable in 2005, so . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 07, 2023 09:31 AM (omVj0) Meaning the water system is ruined? Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 07, 2023 09:32 AM (Angsy) 65
Prayers for the Horde and their loved ones. Prayers for Israel in this horrible time.
Thankfully, thus far , Hezbollah has not launched any attacks from Lebanon. They have tens of thousands of long range missiles and rockets provided by Iran and if they began launching the escalation would go exponential. Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 07, 2023 09:33 AM (QRXtP) 66
Hey Creeper,
Prayers forwarded for your back issues. I went through that around the turn of the century. Hope the e-stim provides long term relief. BtW, I'm (probably) right across the creek from you in StL. Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 07, 2023 09:33 AM (7Fj9P) 67
@61 Tonypete interesting that Hamas chose the anniversary of Lepanto to attack. I doubt they realized it, but an interesting fact nonetheless
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 07, 2023 09:35 AM (QRXtP) 68
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 07, 2023 09:33 AM (QRXtP)
I read that Egypt told Israel that Lebanese Hezbollah would attack if there was a ground war. Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 09:36 AM (vHIgi) 69
The video of the killed naked woman that was captured while Hamas terrorists were in a joyful parade cheering and dancing, is the most horrifying thing I have ever seen.
The cabbage patch mutant needs to be asked: 1. Is this evil? 2. Did anyone within the administration discuss the possibility that their $6 billion dollar ransom paid would be used to perpetrate actions against Israel? 3. Do you know of any similar social media posts by Israeli citizens savagely celebrating the deaths of their enemies? Biden and the Democrats need to be made to own this. Forced to wear it like a camel haired suit. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 07, 2023 09:36 AM (hhY7K) 70
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
JUST IN - Palestinian resistance fighter poses with an elderly Israeli woman hostage [andy: using AFP terminology] Eternal Optimist @etoptimist 2h ‼️ Israeli women and children and men are being captured by terrorists. This is unprecedented crisis never seen emerging. https://tinyurl.com/5wewk9jt [Nitter link to make both tweets visible] Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h ALERT - Over 5,000 rockets fired as ‘Operation Al-Aqsa Flood’ begins: Hamas armed wing cutt.ly/Bwn1pvyg Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2h BREAKING: Adviser to Iran supreme leader says ‘proud’ of Hamas attack on Israel cutt.ly/pwn1oBMm Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 09:37 AM (krqg6) 71
Mis Hum, you are a mindreader. I've been looking for a good, long morning music piece.
And with the news below it is even more important. Many more prayers for Israel. Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2023 09:38 AM (cTCuP) 72
Smell the Glove, yes quite.
I'm so steamed this morning regarding these events I can barely see straight. Without a doubt, the galactic level of duplicitousness and studied ignorance of our 'elite' class seems to the prerequisite for national office. Homeless tweekers would do a better job. Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 09:38 AM (x7plP) 73
>Biden and the Democrats need to be made to own this. Forced to wear it like a camel haired suit.
Posted by: Sock Monkey Biden's still in his bathrobe, watching cartoons and dribbling oatmeal down his chin Posted by: DB - at October 07, 2023 09:38 AM (geLO8) 74
I've read all the prayer requests. Thanks to Annie's Stew and AoSHQ for posting them.
Posted by: gp at October 07, 2023 09:40 AM (MvF+J) 75
19 Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow Make no mistake. This is Israel’s 9/11. And Biden’s appeasement of the Palestinian terrorists, pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into their coffers, and transferring $6 billion to the Iranian terror state, which arms these terrorists, contributed to this. Biden even held up a peace deal between the Israelis and Saudi Arabia insisting Israel make further concessions to the Palestinian terrorists. When will the Democrat Party and their stinken State Department learn that the goal of the Palestinian terrorists and their Iranian masters is another Holocaust. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:07 AM (TGPs7) Much of the IED technology in Afghanistan and Iraq was Iranian R and D funded by our funding to terrorist organizations. Money is fungable. Posted by: rhennigantx at October 07, 2023 09:40 AM (lwOKI) Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:40 AM (RIvkX) 77
Thanks for the prayers. I have one of those cold that start in the face and spread to the chest. I woke up 4 am and meant to get back to bed...
Perhaps after tea. Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 07, 2023 09:42 AM (/+bwe) 78
Is this the inevitable consequence of "fortifying" the Nat'l vote with 30 million vaporware votes?
Yeah, evil begets evil. On some level, it feels like these are (so far) mild consequences of f'ing with the worst* form of gubmint. *...but better than all the rest. Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 07, 2023 09:42 AM (7Fj9P) 79
76 You don't make peace with those who murder women, children, and elderly.
You eliminate them. Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:40 AM (RIvkX) Uh oh. Posted by: A certain retired NIAID Director at October 07, 2023 09:43 AM (PiwSw) 80
Posted by: A certain retired NIAID Director at October 07, 2023 09:43 AM (PiwSw)
=== Justice is coming for you sooner than you think. Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:44 AM (RIvkX) 81
My lovely wife is at Mass now and is leading the Rosary immediately after with her women's group. I'll have to ask her which designation they used.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 09:30 AM (x7plP) --- Not long ago my wife led a decade of the Rosary at church and her voice was so soothing and calming that everyone in the chapel forgot to say the response, including both priests! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 09:44 AM (llXky) 82
I read that Egypt told Israel that Lebanese Hezbollah would attack if there was a ground war.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 09:36 AM (vHIgi) It's a good guess; Hezbollah is another proxy army of Iran's. BUT they've had free reign in Lebanon for years now, and they're starting to get fat and lazy and realizing that living off the fat of the land is a lot better than dying uselessly for Iran. So I expect them to watch this attack closely, and if Israel gets the upper hand quickly (they will), Hezbollah might shoot off a few missiles to convince their Iranian paymasters they're still in it with them, but other than that do nothing. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 09:45 AM (S6gqv) 83
be kind to the 'ettes and their hair.
Given how much they have to pay a stylist to 'tip' their pigtails, we're being very kind when we do it for free! Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 07, 2023 09:47 AM (a3Q+t) 84
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 8m
BREAKING - At least 198 killed in Gaza in conflict with Israel: ministry Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 17m BREAKING: Israel conducting massive airstrikes on central Gaza Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 58m JUST IN - Israel's city Sderot has become a warzone, video show clashes between Israeli defense forces and Hamas militants https://tinyurl.com/bdz643ma 32 seconds; no violence Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 09:47 AM (krqg6) 85
26 "Ukraine is turning into a major defeat for the US and NATO."
People forget I was killed day one. Posted by: The Truth at October 07, 2023 09:47 AM (8sMut) 86
Sorry Mister Ghost, I am a bit on edge this AM
Posted by: Nevergiveup As many of us are. Right now I view trolls with the same lense as those incoherent, babbling,evil, little god worshipers celebrating over dead bodies. The rest of my thoughts I will keep to myself. MG, however, is not a troll. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 07, 2023 09:48 AM (hhY7K) 87
Summer's heat here in Las Cruces has finally ended. Last night I went down to the first Friday art show on the plaza and it was the first time since spring that I felt a sweater would have been helpful. Mid September until late October is the most perfect time of year in this region, neither too warm during the day and neither too cold in the evenings. Already the snowbird RVs are starting to show up at the RV spaces at the Elks club down the street from where I live after a few months of mostly being empty.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 07, 2023 09:49 AM (CtmUH) 88
The IDF and the State of Israel have shown immense restraint over the decades and have had, well, the Patience of Job.
It is time they lay the smack down on these bastards. Go in, and SHOW NO MERCY. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 07, 2023 09:49 AM (8sMut) 89
Please pray for our three Hordelings who are in Israel: Cliffs Notes, Biden's Dog, and Neal in Israel. I'm sure there are more but these are the ones I know of.
Heavenly Father, keep them and their families safe. Posted by: bluebell at October 07, 2023 09:49 AM (pTb/Z) 90
The reason Laurence Tribe and all other Israel-hating evil doers in America are so upset is that they realize that, in the big picture, this is the greatest political gift that Netanyahu has ever received in his lifetime. He has about 48 hours to put this down - he will - and then he's going to be free to impose any reforms he wants.
Hamas, like most ambush attackers, built up a great arsenal for a surprise attack, but they have no avenues of resupply and any remaining storage depots are being destroyed as we chat here. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 09:51 AM (S6gqv) 91
It's almost as if the Ukrainian War is a grand redistribution scheme:
weapons, human trafficking, cryptocurrency, payoffs to European and American Oligarchs... The Sirius Report @thesiriusreport You couldn't make this up: It appears Western weapons which were supposed to be shipped to Ukraine, ended up being sold on the black market to Hamas, who are now using them against Israeli forces. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:52 AM (TGPs7) 92
Heavenly Father, keep them and their families safe.
Posted by: bluebell at October 07, 2023 09:49 AM (pTb/Z) === Amen. Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 09:52 AM (RIvkX) 93
>It appears Western weapons which were supposed to be shipped to Ukraine, ended up being sold on the black market to Hamas, who are now using them against Israeli forces.
I saw this movie Iron Man Posted by: DB - at October 07, 2023 09:52 AM (geLO8) 94
My lovely wife is at Mass now and is leading the Rosary immediately after with her women's group. I'll have to ask her which designation they used.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 09:30 AM (x7plP) Wow. Same here. I was too lazy this morning. Ugh Posted by: 7man at October 07, 2023 09:54 AM (qwO6y) 95
Heavenly Father, keep them and their families safe.
Posted by: bluebell at October 07, 2023 09:49 AM (pTb/Z) === Amen. Posted by: San Franpsycho We cannot pray enough. Amen. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 07, 2023 09:55 AM (hhY7K) 96
21 Pray for enlightenment among many...
Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️ @tribelaw Is Netanyahu wagging the dog of war to take attention away from his own war on the independent judiciary? Can anyone put that past him? Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:10 AM (TGPs7) Tribe is a commenter at Zero Hedge? Who knew? Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 07, 2023 09:55 AM (1qmCf) 97
Pope Francis has come in for a lot of criticism (often deservedly so), but he is the only world leader to actually try to stop the slaughter in the Ukraine, which I find fascinating.
All the "Give Peace A Chance" people just shut up in the face of a body count that makes Iraq look like a picnic. The KIA tally (which no one oddly wants to talk about), has compressed the entire War on Terror's losses into a matter of months. I will never credit a single one of those people with good intentions again. They were tools, and knew it, and they know it now. They don't have actual principles, they have tactics. I'm so sick of these yard sign Calvinists. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 09:57 AM (llXky) 98
Israel needs to be tacked onto that prayer list.
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2023 09:58 AM (K86Aj) 99
On the face of it, this attack seems poorly conceived... too poorly conceived, even for Koranimals. I am worried this is a feint. To soften defenses & tie down military assets, as a prelude to a larger attack of some kind by Iranian forces.
Pray. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2023 09:58 AM (0FoWg) 100
NEXTA @nexta_tv 26m
Saudi Foreign Ministry statement: "Saudi Arabia warned Israel of the possible risks of escalation due to the occupation and deprivation of the Palestinian people of their legitimate rights, as well as the systematic provocation against their holy sites." Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 09:59 AM (krqg6) 101
It appears Western weapons which were supposed to be shipped to Ukraine, ended up being sold on the black market to Hamas, who are now using them against Israeli forces.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:52 AM (TGPs7) And since Hamas is broke, it's obvious that the money that paid for them was the cash that Biden has been shipping to Iran. See how the circle works? 1) US Govm't pays defense contractors big money to build weapons. 2) weapons are shipped off for "free" out of some excuse to "save democracy". 3) weapons are never sent to where they're supposed to go; they're stolen right at the start by the people who are supposed to be shipping them. 4) weapons are bought by cash that the US Govm't has handed out to other countries, notably Iran. 5) most of the cash ends up in the bank accounts of the people in the US Congress, State Dep't, and Defense Contractors who enabled this whole cycle of war.. And it goes on, and on, and on. I don't absolve anyone in the Uke govm't - but they are very low level partners in this criminal syndicate. The Biggest Players are right here at home - just look at who keeps voting in favor of endless cash for Ukraine. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:00 AM (S6gqv) 102
They were told this would happen. But they're Ivy Leaguers. They know better than stupid state college rubes who only have eyes to see and know history and human nature.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 07, 2023 09:13 AM (Angsy) QFT Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2023 10:01 AM (K86Aj) 103
I just checked the comments at Zero Hedge. Could only make it through the first couple before I had to leave. The Jew-hate there is off the charts.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2023 10:01 AM (xTRSc) 104
Can someone ban this asshole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 09:14 AM (pmmLi) Those are Tribe's words. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't post here. Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2023 10:02 AM (K86Aj) 105
They don't have actual principles, they have tactics. I'm so sick of these yard sign Calvinists.
Its a virtue signal. An expression of faith regardless of reality. No different than Back the Blue. Or the hard line Catholics I knew twenty years ago, when the priests really started to come out. Posted by: Cliffs Notes at October 07, 2023 10:02 AM (Qn+B5) 106
YD,
The logistics involved are massive. Staging 2000 missiles for launch. Wall penetration. Hang gliders. Lots of prep involved in this. Targets were developed and distributed. Someone had to know WTF that something was up and there was a GO time. Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 10:02 AM (5g9YU) Posted by: Ciampino at October 07, 2023 10:02 AM (qfLjt) 108
I'm out. Even the fire burning beside me provides no consolation this morning. Will feed Teh Herde instead and then go for a walk.
Hugs for every last one of you. Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2023 10:03 AM (cTCuP) 109
NEXTA @nexta_tv 1h
Russian Foreign Ministry Press Secretary Zakharova expressed concern over the "Israeli-Palestinian conflict" However, she quickly found someone to blame and it's not Hamas terrorists: "We regard the current large-scale escalation of the situation as yet another extremely dangerous manifestation of the vicious circle of violence, which is a direct consequence of the chronic non-implementation of the relevant UN resolutions and its Security Council and the West's de facto blocking of the work of the Middle East 'quartet' of international mediators consisting of Russia, the United States, the EU and the UN." Archived photo: Lavrov with Hamas leader. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:03 AM (krqg6) 110
@68, 82 don't think Hezbollah will fire only a couple of missiles. Even one would prompt a massive response from Israel. If they're going to launch it will be full blast. If it does happen then you will know that Iran is ready to go nuke as well. This attack is a horror in Israel and a finger in the eye of the Biden administration
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 07, 2023 10:03 AM (QRXtP) 111
99 On the face of it, this attack seems poorly conceived... too poorly conceived, even for Koranimals. I am worried this is a feint. To soften defenses & tie down military assets, as a prelude to a larger attack of some kind by Iranian forces.
Pray. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2023 09:58 AM (0FoWg) I agree - I think that was the plan. But it's possible that Hamas leadership, for internal reasons, was stupid and launched their part of the attack before any of their partners was ready to go. This happens in war a lot, and when it does the one that jumps too early gets slaughtered and taken out of the game for good. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:03 AM (S6gqv) 112
Can someone ban this asshole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 09:14 AM (pmmLi) Those are Tribe's words. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't post here. Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2023 10:02 AM (K86Aj) Yes someone pointed that out to me and I apologized to Mister Ghost. That was my bad Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 10:03 AM (pmmLi) 113
Saudi Arabia doesn't GAF about the palestinians, other than as a club to beat Israel with
the saudis have kajillions of dollars and could build a palestinian state with their borders- but they won't sidenote: the autocorrect for palestinians is 'pestilential' Posted by: DB - at October 07, 2023 10:04 AM (geLO8) 114
within their own
Posted by: DB - at October 07, 2023 10:04 AM (geLO8) 115
Thank you Ciampino
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 10:04 AM (RIvkX) 116
Archived photo: Lavrov with Hamas leader.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:03 AM (krqg6) I wonder if he's still got the (mistranslated) "Reset" button Hillary gave him. Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 07, 2023 10:05 AM (PiwSw) Posted by: DB - at October 07, 2023 10:05 AM (geLO8) Posted by: JT at October 07, 2023 10:06 AM (T4tVD) 119
NEXTA @nexta_tv 8m
❗️ By the end of the day, there will not be a single living terrorist left inside Israel - IDF official spokesperson Richard Hecht Israeli sources estimate that at least 1,000 Palestinians have managed to infiltrate into Israel through four different areas. The IDF is concerned about a possible attack coming from the northern countries of Lebanon or Syria, Hecht said. "We are ready in the north [in] case there is some Palestinian faction, in case they decide to come into it we will be ready, something we are looking at and we are ready for it." Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:06 AM (krqg6) 120
@18 prayers for your friend Paul, San Franpsycho. May a miracle occur
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 07, 2023 10:06 AM (QRXtP) 121
NEXTA @nexta_tv 4m
Al Jazeera: Hamas deputy head Salah al-Arouri said it was "not a 'hit and run' operation." "We expect the fighting to continue and the battle front to expand. We have one main goal - our freedom and the freedom of our holy places. We will continue to fight until we are victorious, free and independent," he said. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:06 AM (krqg6) 122
Lauren Boebert
@laurenboebert Today, we are watching the culmination of Biden's absolutely irresponsible policies with respect to Israel. He has directed funds to Palestine. UN funds have gone to Palestine. He JUST handed $6 BILLION to Iran. Now we see the results. Israel is our closest ally in the world. We need to stand by Israel in this deadly situation! Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 10:06 AM (TGPs7) 123
Those are Tribe's words. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't post here.
Posted by: GWB at October 07, 2023 10:02 AM (K86Aj) Laurence Tribe's attitudes are almost axiomatic for so many American progressives of Jewish heritage who hate and despise Israel for not being the Socialist Dream State they wanted it to be. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:06 AM (S6gqv) 124
It's remarkable how quickly Biden's people took a peaceful Middle East and turned it into a war zone. In 2020 the Arab world was full-on integrating Israel into the state system, the Saudis were talking up a joint port city/industrial zone and Iran and Qatar were being frozen out.
Now Iran is calling the shots, the peaceful integration is reversed, and the Saudis are recycling press statements from the 1970s. They have a gift. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 10:07 AM (llXky) 125
I am seriously worried that this was done to usher in the new politics of a nuclear Iran.
Iran needs an "excuse" to do the deed. Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 10:08 AM (5g9YU) 126
Saudi Foreign Ministry statement: "Saudi Arabia warned Israel of the possible risks of escalation due to the occupation and deprivation of the Palestinian people of their legitimate rights, as well as the systematic provocation against their holy sites."
==== [words we have to say because we are "custodians!" of the holy sites but don't really GAF otherwise] Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 10:08 AM (RIvkX) 127
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:03 AM (S6gqv)
From your lips to G-d's ears, my main man. I don't hold a high opinion of Islamic warfighting, but I never underestimate either. And I never take it for granted that they weren't directly sided and abetted in their otherwise deficient planning and execution by a certain evil Western power who shall remain nameless. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2023 10:08 AM (0FoWg) 128
Al Jazeera: Hamas deputy head Salah al-Arouri said it was "not a 'hit and run' operation."
Another Baghdad Bob - they have no strategic depth, no reserves. They are trying to provoke an on the ground military incursion into Gaza, where they desire hand to hand, block to block fighting, but I believe the IDF is aware of that. Personally, I would level Gaza with long range constant artillery fire. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:09 AM (S6gqv) 129
124 But Trump said “Pussy.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2023 10:09 AM (xTRSc) 130
France 24 had an Israeli army spokesman on for a few minutes. My understanding from what I heard is this is not going to be a tit for tat retaliation and then containment in Gaza. The language used by the Israeli spokesman implied they're going into Gaza and they're going to level the place.
This is an Iranian war on Israel executed through Hamas, which I view is coming attractions if the Iranians complete building nuclear weapons. It would be a staggering escalation to go after the Iranian nuclear weapon sites but it appears that this is a case where we do it now or we do it later. Meanwhile, The Biden administration funds the Iranians and depletes our ability to respond in its proxy war with Russia in Ukraine. It will be interesting to see how the Biden administration frames the US position here. Posted by: Lost In Space at October 07, 2023 10:09 AM (CtmUH) 131
100 Israelis dead
Sigh Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 10:09 AM (pmmLi) 132
@14
>>Working now on a plumbing leak from yesterday under the kitchen sink. Have the copper parts on hand but will need a new flexible connection. I can do pretty every job around the house and on a car or truck, I absolutely hate working on plumbing. Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 07, 2023 10:10 AM (OCiQ0) 133
Thank you Smell the Glove
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 10:11 AM (RIvkX) 134
The IDF commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion will beat back this Hama attack.
Posted by: Ripley at October 07, 2023 10:11 AM (PTDkx) 135
"The weather has taken on a definite October vibe here today."
It's 64 and not getting any cooler. That's October here. Posted by: SFGoth at October 07, 2023 10:11 AM (KAi1n) 136
NEXTA @nexta_tv 4h
⚡️ Israel is at war, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said "Citizens of #Israel, we are at war. This is not an escalation, this is not another round of violence. Hamas has declared war on us," the Prime Minister emphasized. NEXTA @nexta_tv 4h Mosque loudspeakers throughout Jerusalem call on Muslims to rise up and wage a "Holy War" against #Israel. NEXTA @nexta_tv 4h CNN: Hezbollah praises morning attacks by Hamas Lebanese militant group Hezbollah praised the Saturday morning attack by militant group Hamas against Israel in a a statement posted on Hezbollah-backed Al Manar TV. Hezbollah is a Shiite Lebanese militant and political group that has fought in several conflicts with Israel. The group has strong ties to Iran as well. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:12 AM (krqg6) 137
I would level Gaza with long range constant artillery fire.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:09 AM (S6gqv) Yes; at least as the opening gambit. This is why standoff weapons exist. Israel has them. Start there. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2023 10:13 AM (0FoWg) 138
Weird that Kim Dotcom winds up being the voice of rational analysis in the 2020s. But it's clown world now, so I guess he would be.
Posted by: CppThis at October 07, 2023 10:13 AM (PZvjL) 139
Iran needs an "excuse" to do the deed.
Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 10:08 AM (5g9YU) === Perhaps. But 1. They're not ready yet 2. Israeli devices are already inside Iran Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 10:13 AM (RIvkX) Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 07, 2023 10:13 AM (PiwSw) 141
Justin Trudeau @JustinTrudeau Canada strongly condemns the current terrorist attacks against Israel. These acts of violence are completely unacceptable. We stand with Israel and fully support its right to defend itself. Our thoughts are with everyone affected by this. Civilian life must be protected. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 10:14 AM (TGPs7) 142
If you want to see things go really crazy, just watch Iran announcing that any hostile acts directed at them by Israel will be met with a nuclear response.
I think all this shit is just a provocation to set this scenario up. I'm pretty sure the Saudis are freaking out right now because they have to know what's going on. The fact that they kept this to themselves is interesting. Some people had to know and who knew is the key in understanding what this is all about. Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 10:14 AM (5g9YU) 143
Gaza delenda est.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2023 10:14 AM (xTRSc) 144
This happens in war a lot, and when it does the one that jumps too early gets slaughtered and taken out of the game for good.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:03 AM (S6gqv) I think you’re right. The Arabs are as duplicitous with each other as much as with anyone else. Maybe Hezbollah agreed to join in but then realized when Hamas is destroyed, they are the major terror players in that region, mo’ money…mo’ power. of course, I don’t know; right now I want the sword of justice across the throat of Hamas and there paleostinian enablers. Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 07, 2023 10:15 AM (VloHh) 145
I think we will know in the next 24 hours whether the Israelis have elected the "Go It Alone" strategy.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 07, 2023 10:16 AM (RIvkX) 146
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24 · 1h BREAKING: Unconfirmed reports of Hezbollah threatening to invade Israel from Lebanon if Israel launches a ground offensive against Gaza The Egyptian gov. has allegedly passed on the information from Hezbollah to Israel. It's worth remembering that Hezbollah is an Iranian tool... Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 10:16 AM (TGPs7) 147
One way of looking at the inept Biden regime is that it gives Israel the freedom to do whatever they want in response. What's he gonna do, mumble something incoherent at a press conference?
Posted by: CppThis at October 07, 2023 10:16 AM (PZvjL) Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 07, 2023 10:17 AM (qPw5n) 149
@111
>>On the face of it, this attack seems poorly conceived... too poorly conceived, even for Koranimals. Muslims are terrible at war fighting but good at the propaganda game. The "International Community" is probably got a huge chubby right now as they get to swing into action. This sh*t is an ancillary of The Forever War. Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 07, 2023 10:18 AM (OCiQ0) 150
Israel needs to reflect on the wisdom of Henry Kissinger: It is dangerous to be America's enemy, but often fatal to her ally.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 10:18 AM (llXky) 151
147 One way of looking at the inept Biden regime is that it gives Israel the freedom to do whatever they want in response. What's he gonna do, mumble something incoherent at a press conference?
Posted by: CppThis at October 07, 2023 10:16 AM (PZvjL) Who among the nations of the world, friend or foe, considers the response of the Americans? Only fools. I don't take the Jews for fools. If the position of the US has been a factor in decision-making before this morning, I sincerely hope that's changed by this evening. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2023 10:19 AM (0FoWg) 152
So, any betting pool for this election season's COVID crisis?
The ol' John Hackett war in the middle east ploy? (The Third World War, 1984) Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:20 AM (ga8qR) 153
NEXTA @nexta_tv 3h
Hamas militants have entered the Israeli cities of Ashkelon and Sderot Ashkelon is located on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea, 7 kilometers from the Gaza Strip border. Residents are posting videos of Islamists patrolling a square in the city center with assault rifles on Saturday morning. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:22 AM (krqg6) 154
May God bless and keep you all, may He hear your prayers and answer in His perfect will, and may He comfort you and your loved ones through all your trials. Reading these requests is a beautiful lesson in love and endurance and faith in God's promises. It's hard and challenging and I am blessed by the Horde's strength. Prayers for those spoken and those unspoken.
Posted by: Moki at October 07, 2023 10:22 AM (JrN/x) 155
if you want an update on the Josh Kruger killing, looks like he had been "helping" a much younger black "man" (really a youth I think and probably was when the grooming started) who seems to be his killer:
"The suspect has been identified as 19-year-old Robert Edmond Davis. He is wanted for murder and related offenses. Davis is 5'5" tall and weighs 160 lbs. He has a last known address on the 1600 block of South Ringgold Street. Lt. Hamilton Marshmond of the Philadephia Police Department said Kruger and Davis were acquaintances and Kruger was trying to help Davis. "He was just trying to help him get through life," Marshmond said during a news conference on Friday." Personal. Grooming gone wrong. Josh was 39; Rob was 19 and homeless. Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 07, 2023 10:22 AM (AcWfM) 156
I'm pretty sure the Saudis are freaking out right now because they have to know what's going on. The fact that they kept this to themselves is interesting.
Some people had to know and who knew is the key in understanding what this is all about. Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 10:14 AM (5g9YU) I doubt they are freaking out - everyone in the middle east knew that it was coming, it was only a question of when, and they have been scrambling to prepare for years. The only thing that surprises me is how many people here at home seem to be surprised at this - it's one of those events that was guaranteed to happen, sooner or later, and now it's sooner. But I still think Hamas jumped the gun, although that'll take a few days to be sure. It's possible that Iran decided to sacrifice Hamas in order to justify a massive counterattack against Gaza, which they will use to justify their own attacks. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:22 AM (S6gqv) 157
Any thoughts on the national security alert test a couple of days ago, at an odd time on an odd date, out of nowhere?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:22 AM (ga8qR) 158
Secretary Antony Blinken
We unequivocally condemn the appalling attacks by Hamas terrorists against Israel. We stand in solidarity with the government and people of Israel and extend our condolences for the Israeli lives lost in these attacks. That statement is a pack of weasel words. Posted by: Lost In Space at October 07, 2023 10:23 AM (CtmUH) 159
If Gaza was hammered until there was no one left alive, the entire region would be a better place.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 07, 2023 10:23 AM (/5ekb) 160
@146 Mister Ghost , if Hezbollah starts launching their huge stockpile of missiles I would not be surprised to see Israel use a tactical nuclear weapon in the Bekaa Valley. Bad times
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 07, 2023 10:23 AM (QRXtP) 161
Earlier this week it was in the 80s. Today's high is forecasted for the mid 40s.
— How do you still not believe in climate change? 😀 Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:24 AM (5JSDK) 162
Personal. Grooming gone wrong. Josh was 39; Rob was 19 and homeless.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 07, 2023 10:22 AM (AcWfM) Certainly sounds that way. Maybe the young catamite didn't like being a catamite anymore. Or maybe he'd just become aware of Kruger's HIV+ status. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2023 10:25 AM (0FoWg) 163
158 Secretary Antony Blinken
We unequivocally condemn the appalling attacks by Hamas terrorists against Israel. We stand in solidarity with the government and people of Israel and extend our condolences for the Israeli lives lost in these attacks. That statement is a pack of weasel words. Posted by: Lost In Space at October 07, 2023 10:23 AM (CtmUH) Biden..has blood on his hands... Even if he isn't conscious enough to know it. Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2023 10:25 AM (bs+z0) 164
157 Any thoughts on the national security alert test a couple of days ago, at an odd time on an odd date, out of nowhere?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:22 AM (ga8qR) They said like six weeks ago that they were gonna do it, so no thoughts really. They did it because of what happened in Hawaii. Posted by: CppThis at October 07, 2023 10:25 AM (PZvjL) 165
If the Palestinians in Gaza were forced into Egypt, they'd all be dead in a month. Absolutely no one in the ME wants the Palis living with or even near them. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2023 10:25 AM (MoZTd) 166
NEXTA @nexta_tv 3 minutes
Israeli Navy destroyed two boats carrying dozens of terrorists attempting to infiltrate into #Israel -- #IDF Press Service https://tinyurl.com/3f59tcbm 27 seconds; night-cam footage Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:25 AM (krqg6) 167
#166 Commenter addendum:
Xi jingping (Parody) @xipingaoc 3m Replying to @nexta_tv Boats..how are they getting all this?? 😳 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ Abigal 🦋🦋 @world27194 1m Interesting Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:26 AM (krqg6) 168
Unconfirmed reports of Hezbollah threatening to invade Israel from Lebanon if Israel launches a ground offensive against Gaza
Based on past history, Israel's response will be FU. Lebanon is under the microscope right.now. Any forward moves by Hezbollah assets may be met with a preemptive action by the IDF. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 07, 2023 10:26 AM (hhY7K) 169
We had our first freeze warning of the year here last night.
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2023 10:26 AM (rskKm) 170
Upon finding out about the attacks on Israel and Biden’s support for Iran, Jewish support for Democrats will plummet for 80.27% to 80.23%.
Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:26 AM (5JSDK) 171
I think you’re right. The Arabs are as duplicitous with each other as much as with anyone else. Maybe Hezbollah agreed to join in but then realized when Hamas is destroyed, they are the major terror players in that region, mo’ money…mo’ power.... Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 07, 2023 10:15 AM (VloHh)
LOL you're right, of course. We should never forget the willingness of the Arabs to betray each other, especially in the middle of a battle. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:26 AM (S6gqv) 172
Just saw the report on Israel. I pray the Almighty strengthens and defends her against her enemies.
Posted by: Moki at October 07, 2023 10:27 AM (JrN/x) 173
Wishing healing and peace to all who are in need.
Oh, and congrats lefties/democrats. You have successfully destroyed peace and prosperity throughout the world. Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 07, 2023 10:27 AM (VloHh) 174
Department of State retweeted
Secretary Antony Blinken @SecBlinken 22m We unequivocally condemn the appalling attacks by Hamas terrorists against Israel. We stand in solidarity with the government and people of Israel and extend our condolences for the Israeli lives lost in these attacks Twenty-two minutes ago. Posted by: m at October 07, 2023 10:27 AM (LdYi7) 175
163 Biden..has blood on his hands... Even if he isn't conscious enough to know it.
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2023 10:25 AM (bs+z0) So do the Branch Covidians. I've been saying since mid 2020 that many wars and revolutions will come of that, as is always the case following widespread economic turmoil. Today my tally grows. Posted by: CppThis at October 07, 2023 10:28 AM (PZvjL) 176
They did it because of what happened in Hawaii.
Posted by: CppThis — What happened in Hawaii? - MSM Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:28 AM (5JSDK) 177
Personal. Grooming gone wrong. Josh was 39; Rob was 19 and homeless.
------- Like that rich Dem donor, murdering two, getting away with the first one besides the torturings. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:28 AM (krqg6) 178
I just checked the comments at Zero Hedge. Could only make it through the first couple before I had to leave. The Jew-hate there is off the charts.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus Hence my comment several hours ago: Zerohedge is gonna be lit in a few hours. Posted by: SFGoth at October 07, 2023 03:56 AM Posted by: SFGoth at October 07, 2023 10:28 AM (KAi1n) 179
We had our first freeze warning of the year here last night.
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2023 10:26 AM (rskKm) --- Dipped down into the 40s, the squash is doing very well. The garden was a disappointment this year, but given the inadequate time for it, that isn't much of a surprise. Next year should be better given the progress we've made. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 10:28 AM (llXky) 180
Creeper, my daughter had the nerve stimulator implant put in earlier this year. She had broken her ankle and it caused nerve damage that caused constant, severe pain. It has worked wonders for her and has allowed her to get back to being pretty normal. Good luck and we'll keep praying.
Also, I could use prayers for a possible job change that terrifies me. It could be absolutely fantastic for me personally and professionally. I pray for God's will and not mine, though. He leads my paths. Prayers up for all those mentioned and not. Posted by: AnchorPoint formerly Trog04 at October 07, 2023 10:29 AM (qgPFD) 181
Israel needs to go total war on its enemies screw the collateral damage. Kill them all. End it once and for all time.
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2023 10:29 AM (rskKm) 182
Haven't seen any tv nooz coverage of Israel
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 10:29 AM (vHIgi) 183
Biden and the GOPe will immediately send $500b to Israel to defend itself right? Or wait what am I saying. We only send that kind of money to countries with Nazi military divisions.
Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:30 AM (5JSDK) 184
103 I just checked the comments at Zero Hedge. Could only make it through the first couple before I had to leave. The Jew-hate there is off the charts.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2023 10:01 AM (xTRSc) Thanks for bravely going where I ain't going! Posted by: m at October 07, 2023 10:30 AM (LdYi7) 185
170 Upon finding out about the attacks on Israel and Biden’s support for Iran, Jewish support for Democrats will plummet for 80.27% to 80.23%.
Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:26 AM (5JSDK) No one who's aware should use "Jewish" as a generic term, especially to those who live in this country. There are the Orthodox who remain faithful and who would give their lives for Israel; and there is the Reform Movement (sadly strong in America) which now despises Israel and hates God. That movement is dying, but they don't realize it yet (those who have been damned never do) Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:30 AM (S6gqv) 186
Haven't seen any tv nooz coverage of Israel
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 10:29 AM (vHIgi) It’s a Local story. Now back to our 24/7 coverage of the Trump trial. - MSM Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:31 AM (5JSDK) 187
They said like six weeks ago that they were gonna do it, so no thoughts really. They did it because of what happened in Hawaii.
Posted by: CppThis Thanks. Must be getting old, but could swear they used to do tests monthly at 12:00. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:31 AM (ga8qR) 188
And it's 46 F right now.
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2023 10:31 AM (rskKm) 189
183 Biden and the GOPe will immediately send $500b to Israel to defend itself right? Or wait what am I saying. We only send that kind of money to countries with Nazi military divisions.
Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:30 AM (5JSDK) Again you're wrong; Biden sent that much and more to Iran, and that is the money that has funded this entire attack. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:31 AM (S6gqv) 190
That style of leather case for the thermos is actually not all that common these days and individually they go for more than the thermoses (thermosii?). Thermoses. Classical plural is 'thermoi' And, who knew? 'Thermos' is a trademark! It's been partially genericized: capitalized with a 'T' it's trademarked but with a lower-case 't' it's not.
So it would be like 'Kleenex' vs. 'kleenex'? That's a weird one. Posted by: LenNeal at October 07, 2023 10:31 AM (43xH1) 191
I just checked the comments at Zero Hedge. Could only make it through the first couple before I had to leave. The Jew-hate there is off the charts. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 07, 2023 10:01 AM (xTRSc) When I changed my nic many years ago, I was considering "International Jew Banker" as a substitute. Then I decided, "Naaaah." Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2023 10:32 AM (MoZTd) 192
It appears Western weapons which were supposed to be shipped to Ukraine, ended up being sold on the black market to Hamas, who are now using them against Israeli forces.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:52 AM (TGPs7) ----------- It seems like when you recklessly leave billions in costly high-tech weaponry strewn around the planet like leaves in a breeze, nasty consequences can ensue. But what do I know? Posted by: The Taliban at October 07, 2023 10:32 AM (Z2aTH) 193
Not good. Hostages too. Very , very bad.
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:32 AM (V13WU) 194
AG @AGHamilton29 33m
DeSantis has now released two separate statements about these events. Biden and Trump are nowhere to be found outside of underlings releasing comments. Trump posting about his lawyer appearances on Truth Social and Biden might still be asleep. The NTs are working on the "blame Trump" angle in real time. Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 07, 2023 10:32 AM (DTX3h) 195
NewsAlerts Global @NewsAlertsG 9m
Hezbollah militants, on motorcycles, approach the border fence with Israel in southern Lebanon. https://tinyurl.com/bdh39ujv 9 seconds; no violence. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:33 AM (krqg6) 196
136
Hezbollah is a Shiite Lebanese militant and political group ... Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:12 AM (krqg6) ---- I read that as Hezbollah is a Shitty Lebanese militant and political group ... I had to go back and re-read it, though I agreed with my first impression. Posted by: Ciampino - purratomic mix at October 07, 2023 10:33 AM (qfLjt) 197
Israel needs to go total war on its enemies screw the collateral damage. Kill them all. End it once and for all time.
Posted by: Archer at October 07, 2023 10:29 AM (rskKm) --- It will be interesting to see if the """Peace Movement""" suddenly pops back up to restrain Israel. After spending the last year and a half howling for Russian blood and denouncing people advocating peace as "Putin's stooges," I wonder if they have gall to say anything. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 10:33 AM (llXky) 198
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:30 AM (S6gqv) Any polling out there shows Jewish support is 80%ish Democrat. The example you gave is part of the other 20%. Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:33 AM (5JSDK) 199
I wonder if US administration knew this was being planned...and said nothing...
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:34 AM (V13WU) 200
SecDef has issued a statement:
https://is.gd/hwooFf Secretary Blinken: https://is.gd/TAGalG Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant Trump would have personally addressed the situation hours ago, were he in office. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 07, 2023 10:34 AM (hhY7K) 201
Zerohedge's readership is truly vile.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2023 10:34 AM (Z2aTH) 202
I wonder if they have gall to say anything. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 10:33 AM (llXky) If there's one thing the "Peace Movement" has in massive surplus, it's gall. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 07, 2023 10:34 AM (MoZTd) 203
I have been bouncing between Fox, CNN, CNN International. Aljazzera, Sky News and France 24. If you have the inclination it is most interesting to see the various slants.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 07, 2023 10:34 AM (CtmUH) 204
I just checked the comments at Zero Hedge. Could only make it through the first couple before I had to leave. The Jew-hate there is off the charts.
- The first rule of Zerohedge is "Never read the comments" Posted by: Methos at October 07, 2023 10:34 AM (Dnobf) 205
Oh fuck polling.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2023 10:35 AM (0FoWg) 206
Trump would have personally addressed the situation hours ago, were he in office.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * FJB still snoozing Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 10:35 AM (vHIgi) 207
Again you're wrong; Biden sent that much and more to Iran, and that is the money that has funded this entire attack.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:31 AM (S6gqv) Do I really have to explain the joke to you? Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:35 AM (5JSDK) 208
BBC:
US supports Israel's right to defend itself, Netanyahu says We're hearing from Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu now, who says US President Joe Biden told him the US fully supports Israel's right to defend itself. We're expecting to hear from Biden at some point soon and we'll bring you more as we get it. Posted by: m at October 07, 2023 10:35 AM (LdYi7) 209
Israel cannot wipe Gaza off the face of the earth at the moment - hostages. This Hamas op was planned a while. Wonder if any of the arab "friends" Saudi, others, knew also.
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:35 AM (V13WU) 210
https://tinyurl.com/bdh39ujv
9 seconds; no violence. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:33 AM (krqg6) On friggin' MOTORCYCLES? HA, tell me you're not serious and just putting on a show for the cameras without using those words. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:35 AM (S6gqv) 211
NEXTA @nexta_tv 3 minutes
Israeli Navy destroyed two boats carrying dozens of terrorists attempting to infiltrate into #Israel -- #IDF Press Service https://tinyurl.com/3f59tcbm 27 seconds; night-cam footage Posted by: andycanuck I love happy endings! Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 10:36 AM (x7plP) 212
FJB still snoozing
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 10:35 AM (vHIgi) ----------- Can't start pumping him full of stimulants until DOKTOR Jill gives the OK. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2023 10:36 AM (Z2aTH) 213
"187 They said like six weeks ago that they were gonna do it, so no thoughts really. They did it because of what happened in Hawaii.
Posted by: CppThis" I read this in relation to the attack on Israel, and have been wracking my brain for the last few minutes trying to understand what Hawaiian incident would incite the Gazans to launch rockets. I need more coffee. Posted by: Moki at October 07, 2023 10:36 AM (JrN/x) Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 07, 2023 10:37 AM (PiwSw) 215
Do I really have to explain the joke to you?
Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:35 AM (5JSDK) well, on a morning like this... none of the idiots over at zerohedge would take that as a joke, they believe it earnestly. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:37 AM (S6gqv) 216
It looks like Iran is putting all that money Obama and Biden gave them to work. In exactly the fashion we said they would.
Posted by: Both those cocksuckers should be in Florence ADX at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (lR6tR) 217
The NTs are working on the "blame Trump" angle in real time.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 07, 2023 10:32 AM (DTX3h) Count on it...he either "did something" or "didn't do something". Posted by: BignJames at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (AwYPR) 218
Israel needs to go total war on its enemies screw the collateral damage. Kill them all. End it once and for all time.
Except the composition of the Knesset would never allow it. Diversity leads to political and cultural multiple sclerosis - a figurative rotting of the brain and spine. Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (p8A+W) 219
This Hamas op was planned a while.
Another stunning failure by American intelligence agencies. Unless we knew of the op, and approved of it, of course. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (2tUFv) 220
The ol' John Hackett war in the middle east ploy? (The Third World War, 1984)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:20 AM (ga8qR) The Third World War: August 1985 (looks at it on my shelf; read in in August...2005) Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (8sMut) 221
Israel cannot wipe Gaza off the face of the earth at the moment - hostages. This Hamas op was planned a while. Wonder if any of the arab "friends" Saudi, others, knew also.
Posted by: runner I've never been in that situation so I don't really know but perhaps Israel could adopt the Russian style of responding to the taking of hostages. (Start killing all friends/family/supporters of Hamas immediately). Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 10:39 AM (x7plP) 222
213 "187 They said like six weeks ago that they were gonna do it, so no thoughts really. They did it because of what happened in Hawaii.
Posted by: CppThis" I read this in relation to the attack on Israel, and have been wracking my brain for the last few minutes trying to understand what Hawaiian incident would incite the Gazans to launch rockets. I need more coffee. Posted by: Moki at October 07, 2023 10:36 AM (JrN/x) #metoo Posted by: m at October 07, 2023 10:39 AM (LdYi7) 223
Give a deadline to release the hostages, and not a long one. Perhaps 48 hours. With the caveat that rescue ops have already commenced, and will continue until the moment of that deadline, and then everyone must die, hostages included.
If that's the weapon they want to wield, take it away. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2023 10:39 AM (0FoWg) 224
Trump would have personally addressed the situation hours ago, were he in office.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 07, 2023 10:34 AM (hhY7K) I agree... Biden is MIA Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2023 10:39 AM (bs+z0) 225
The ol' John Hackett war in the middle east ploy? (The Third World War, 1984)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:20 AM (ga8qR) The Third World War: August 1985 (looks at it on my shelf; read in in August...2005) Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (8sMut) --- I finally bought the GDW Persian Gulf module for their Third World War series from the 80s a couple of months ago. Fun to follow along at home! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 10:40 AM (llXky) Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:40 AM (V13WU) 227
President Trump has a statement
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 10:40 AM (vHIgi) 228
well, on a morning like this... none of the idiots over at zerohedge would take that as a joke, they believe it earnestly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:37 AM (S6gqv) ZH does so much good reporting but the comments yeah, gotta keep out of that cesspool. Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:40 AM (5JSDK) 229
NewsAlerts Global @NewsAlertsG 2h
#BREAKING: 161 people have been killed and 931 injured after the Israeli army responded with airstrikes in the Gaza Strip, says The Palestinian Health Ministry ------------- "people" and not terrorist soldiers [excuse the oxymoron] and human shields, I'm sure. NEXTA @nexta_tv 3h IDF air force attacked 17 military compounds and 4 Hamas operational headquarters throughout the Gaza Strip - Israel Defense Forces. https://tinyurl.com/4v34b6ns 1:05 minutes; night-cam footage Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:41 AM (krqg6) 230
The US and some European governments fully support the right of Israel to defend itself. The moment they start to actually win the "war", the threats to Israel from those same governments will start.
Posted by: Button Pushing Monkey at October 07, 2023 10:41 AM (eSEML) 231
So technically, the post is incorrect: it is a 'Stanley thermos'.
Stanley is clearly a trade name, unless you are Stanley in which case it's probably okay to sell 'Stanley's Tools'. Although Stanley's Tools would likely have to make the font, color, and design 'significantly different' from the Stanley Tools trademark. Also, is there some reason, that even after using their tools for (x) decades, I've never once noticed the Stanley logo, or one of them, includes a winged, flying bear (?!) wearing a crown??? Posted by: LenNeal at October 07, 2023 10:42 AM (43xH1) 232
I've never been in that situation so I don't really know but perhaps Israel could adopt the Russian style of responding to the taking of hostages. (Start killing all friends/family/supporters of Hamas immediately).
Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 10:39 AM (x7plP) yeah, this is exactly how it should be done...but .the way these fkr operated in the past, all their families are now in hiding... Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:42 AM (V13WU) 233
Norms restored am I right?
- NeverTrump Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:42 AM (5JSDK) 234
Diversity leads to political and cultural multiple sclerosis - a figurative rotting of the brain and spine.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (p8A+W) --- It's more because of the breakdown of the political establishment. Kind of interesting to note that the Congress elected in 1858 couldn't select a Speaker until January, 1860 because of the political fragmentation of the parties. I was reminded of that with the current brouhaha in the House. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 10:42 AM (llXky) 235
O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
Ps 137. Israel will never "go medieval on your ass." Israel goes Old Testament. Nezzar gets Nebuke'd. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 07, 2023 10:43 AM (4PZHB) 236
Putin is talking of reopening the remaining Nordstream pipeline at Germany's request.
If the middle east fight messes up oil production, then Germany will have little choice. Posted by: Kindltot at October 07, 2023 10:43 AM (xhaym) 237
It's very sad and hard to do, but at a time like this Hostages have to be treated as though they are dead already. Because they are. If one can find their location, best thing is to zero in a massive artillery strike on the spot.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:43 AM (S6gqv) 238
I've never been in that situation so I don't really know but perhaps Israel could adopt the Russian style of responding to the taking of hostages.
LAT, 1986: The KGB has adopted novel, brutal and apparently effective methods of dealing with terrorists who attack Soviet interests in the Middle East, an Israeli newspaper reported Monday. The Jerusalem Post said the Soviet secret police last year secured the release of three kidnaped Soviet diplomats in Beirut by castrating a relative of a radical Lebanese Shia Muslim leader, sending him the severed organs and then shooting the relative in the head. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:43 AM (2tUFv) 239
Another stunning failure by American intelligence agencies.
Unless we knew of the op, and approved of it, of course. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (2tUFv) I would not put it past this administration and its IS. Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:43 AM (V13WU) 240
Trump would have personally addressed the situation hours ago, were he in office.
It wouldn't have happened under Trump, because he would never have given Iran billions of dollars and the keys to building The Bomb. There was a betting site out a number of election cycles ago that was allegedly a DARPA project that depended on the notion that all governments lie all the time about everything so to learn the likely outcome of things, people had to have real skin in the game, so betting money on political outcomes was a vector for reading the "smart money" who had intelligence that wasn't pure garbage coming from all the various alleged government intelligence agencies. This attack now is a "skin in the game" move suggesting a Red Wave and Trump as POTUS in 2024. Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:43 AM (p8A+W) 241
Gen Milley due to release statement that this is Trump's fault because of Trump's unamerican unconstitutional attemp the subvert the government while in office...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:43 AM (ga8qR) 242
Obama said it bluntly: the US supports Israel, unless and until it attacks Iran, in which case, it will support Iran.
He was not his own man, any more than Biden is, and he belongs to the same people Biden does. That has not changed except between 2017-2021. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 07, 2023 10:43 AM (0FoWg) 243
Well, time to get on with the day. Take a break from the news, folks, and give that time to God.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 07, 2023 10:44 AM (llXky) 244
157 Any thoughts on the national security alert test a couple of days ago, at an odd time on an odd date, out of nowhere?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:22 AM Recently I was with a person who has uncanny memory. They told me the previous nationwide test of the alert system a few years ago also took place on the first Wednesday in October about 2pm Eastern time. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 07, 2023 10:44 AM (NBVIP) 245
Odds of AWFLs flying an Israeli flag next to their Ukistani flag today: zero point zero
Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:44 AM (5JSDK) 246
I think all this shit is just a provocation to set this scenario up.
I'm pretty sure the Saudis are freaking out right now because they have to know what's going on. The fact that they kept this to themselves is interesting. [ Willy Wonka voice ] Yeah, it would be shame if Iran got nuked. Stop. Don't do that. -- Saudi Arabia Posted by: Oddbob at October 07, 2023 10:44 AM (nfrXX) 247
When my time comes to depart this world, I hope to accept the Lord's will in all things.
Be grateful. Be very grateful. Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 07, 2023 10:44 AM (8fpTj) 248
TS,
And everyone has known that Iran will have the bomb, sooner or later. At some time it's going to become a credible threat. Iran has always been threating. Most or Iran's threats have been laughed off but at some point they will become credible. How/when does this happen? What scenario can they develop that will do the most damage to Israel? Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (5g9YU) 249
I've never been in that situation so I don't really know but perhaps Israel could adopt the Russian style of responding to the taking of hostages.
Doubtful. Most Jews have in their DNA the penchant for talking themselves into ovens. Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (p8A+W) 250
Problem is , this type of massive assault with Israel distracted in the WB, was coordinated and planned. And the intelligence missed it.
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (V13WU) 251
236 Putin is talking of reopening the remaining Nordstream pipeline at Germany's request.
If the middle east fight messes up oil production, then Germany will have little choice. Posted by: Kindltot at October 07, 2023 10:43 AM (xhaym) I don't know how much of it is left. The part that has been invaded by salt water is corroded and ruined forever. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (S6gqv) 252
Doubtful. Most Jews have in their DNA the penchant for talking themselves into ovens.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (p8A+W) you are an idiot Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (V13WU) 253
I had one of those Stanley Thermos'. Then I got jealous the the guys that had the handle.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (8fpTj) 254
Wow, take a break from reading the internet for a few hours, and you miss the outbreak of another Middle East conflict.
Guess I should wander around the web to see what propaganda is being spewed by our MFM. Posted by: PabloD at October 07, 2023 10:46 AM (2EZQD) 255
Personal. Grooming gone wrong. Josh was 39; Rob was 19 and homeless.
Posted by: BlackOrchid Rob Davis did not want to get Ed Bucked.* * If I got my big Dem bundler and serial killer name right. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:46 AM (ga8qR) 256
Their Allah is a god of war
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 10:46 AM (vHIgi) 257
Prayers for all requested on the Prayer List; for all others in need though perhaps not requested at this time; for their caring families, friends & carekeepers, and those who've provided this opportunity to care & to be cared for.
Hear our prayers for health, strength, wisdom and peace if & when possible. Posted by: L Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at October 07, 2023 10:46 AM (GshMh) 258
Their Allah is Stan.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 07, 2023 10:47 AM (8fpTj) 259
247 When my time comes to depart this world, I hope to accept the Lord's will in all things."
not to be dismissive of the sentiment, but when that time comes no one has a choice anymore. The time to make a choice is BEFORE one departs this world. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:47 AM (S6gqv) 260
And the intelligence missed it.
American intelligence agencies are too busy imposing a dictatorship in the United States to worry about what is going on in the Middle East. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:47 AM (2tUFv) 261
When my time comes to depart this world, I hope to accept the Lord's will in all things.
I'm wondering how many Evangelical Dispensationalists who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture are now on tilt and have to do serious re-calibrations. Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:47 AM (p8A+W) 262
"There was a betting site out a number of election cycles ago that was allegedly a DARPA project that depended on the notion that all governments lie all the time about everything so to learn the likely outcome of things, people had to have real skin in the game, so betting money on political outcomes was a vector for reading the "smart money" who had intelligence that wasn't pure garbage coming from all the various alleged government intelligence agencies." And the award for Longest Sentence In A Single Post goes to... Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 07, 2023 10:47 AM (NBVIP) Posted by: JT at October 07, 2023 10:48 AM (T4tVD) 264
All the war stuff has to stop, starting plumbing project
Posted by: Skip at October 07, 2023 10:48 AM (fwDg9) 265
Unless we knew of the op, and approved of it, of course.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (2tUFv) Ding! Ding! Ding! Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2023 10:48 AM (I8crj) 266
Why are people walking around in gaza like it's a holiday. They need to be swept from the streets
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 10:48 AM (pmmLi) 267
American intelligence agencies are too busy imposing a dictatorship in the United States to worry about what is going on in the Middle East.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:47 AM (2tUFv) Gotta get those MEGA MAGA Grannies Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2023 10:48 AM (bs+z0) 268
256 Their Allah is a god of war
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 07, 2023 10:46 AM (vHIgi) more like a god of pathetic grandstanding, mayhem, and failure. Now Thor, there was a god of war, and don't get me started on Ares. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:49 AM (S6gqv) 269
NEXTA @nexta_tv 32m
⚡️ Israel's Security Council approved a ground operation in the Gaza Strip NEXTA @nexta_tv 1h The IDF Press Service published video of the transfer of units to the border zone NEXTA @nexta_tv 13m More IDF preparation footage https://tinyurl.com/568nns2h Nitter to see both but here's the Xtwitter one with video: https://tinyurl.com/5ds75z2u 15 seconds Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:50 AM (krqg6) 270
219 This Hamas op was planned a while.
Another stunning failure by American intelligence agencies. Unless we knew of the op, and approved of it, of course. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:38 AM (2tUFv) The US government sure as fuck funded it. Billions by Obama and billions more from Biden. Giving huge amounts of money to a state sponsor of terrorism. These motherfuckers have blood on their hands and should be thrown in a hole to rot for the rest of their execrable lives. Posted by: My hatred of these two cannot be adequately expressed in words at October 07, 2023 10:50 AM (lR6tR) 271
This is not gonna go well... There will be some dead Israelis and a whole lot of dead Palestinians
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2023 10:51 AM (bs+z0) 272
I don't know how much of it is left. The part that has been invaded by salt water is corroded and ruined forever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (S6gqv) Only three of the four pipelines were bombed. The fourth was not, either intentionally or because the fourth mine failed. Posted by: Kindltot at October 07, 2023 10:51 AM (xhaym) 273
This is the only site I can bear to read on this topic.
Posted by: m at October 07, 2023 10:51 AM (LdYi7) 274
ValJar unavailable for comment.
Posted by: Havya noticed? at October 07, 2023 10:51 AM (NBVIP) 275
The US government sure as fuck funded it. Billions by Obama and billions more from Biden. Giving huge amounts of money to a state sponsor of terrorism. These motherfuckers have blood on their hands and should be thrown in a hole to rot for the rest of their execrable lives.
Posted by: My hatred of these two cannot be adequately expressed in words at October 07, 2023 10:50 AM (lR6tR) no doubt; the head of the snake is in Tehran Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:52 AM (V13WU) 276
Most Jews have in their DNA the penchant for talking themselves into ovens.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (p8A+W) That's disgusting Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 10:52 AM (pmmLi) 277
271 This is not gonna go well... There will be some dead Israelis and a whole lot of dead Palestinians
Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2023 10:51 AM (bs+z0) the ground operations in Gaza are going to be the really nasty part. Expect Hamas to put lines full of kindergarten kids in front of every one of their firing positions. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:52 AM (S6gqv) 278
"If one can find their location, best thing is to zero in a massive artillery strike on the spot."
WTF? Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 10:52 AM (5g9YU) 279
Flat green Stanley thermos FTW
Posted by: DB - at October 07, 2023 10:52 AM (geLO8) 280
FJB still snoozing
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion Now that DJT has announced he is making a statement, they may be scrambling to get his ass up. Incompetence on display for the whole world to see. BTW, as I sit here drinking coffee, praying and reading comments, I am busy cleaning up the edges of an assortment of stabby tools with a pocket diamond sharpener. Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 07, 2023 10:52 AM (hhY7K) 281
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2023 10:53 AM (Zz0t1) 282
I have nothing of substance to add to the Israel thing. I don't do War Porn or watch TV, and anyway things are going to be too confused for a while to know anything about what's actually happening. Might as well do something else.
Anyone who is interested can go to azure.org.il and punch 'IDF' or 'Army' or the like into their search archive if they want some insights, or go look at the Samidoun website and confirm that Susan Rosenberg's pets, yes that Susan Rosenberg that Clinton released, knew all about this business for a long while. Samidoun claims the choice was the 50th anniversary of the invasion touching off the Yom Kippur War. Now off to do something more or less productive. Posted by: LenNeal at October 07, 2023 10:53 AM (43xH1) 283
Destroy every asset in Gaza NOW
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 10:53 AM (pmmLi) 284
Goodness the prayer list is long...AND bold.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2023 10:53 AM (Zz0t1) 285
Biden staying silent isn’t incompetence. It’s a direct message to Iran to keep doing their thing.
Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (5JSDK) 286
It's very sad and hard to do, but at a time like this Hostages have to be treated as though they are dead already. Because they are. If one can find their location, best thing is to zero in a massive artillery strike on the spot.
Posted by: Tom Servo There is a (pretty much suppressed) study compiled by a then active duty USMC COL arguing the same. In his case it was regarding the Gulf War II iirc but the conclusions are evergreen. Namely, it is a huge resource sink to hold hostages. If the good guys' actions are not influenced by you holding hostages, it is a net negative. btw, the good COL's points included attacking through hostages placed in front of the enemy as a shield. The bad guys will give up the tactic after the third incidence of us not giving a shit. I'm sure he's retired now. Too bad really. Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (x7plP) 287
American intelligence agencies are too busy imposing a dictatorship in the United States to worry about what is going on in the Middle East.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:47 AM (2tUFv) They are planning to pivot to drug interdiction in South America again, priorities, priorities. Posted by: Kindltot at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (xhaym) 288
you are an idiot
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:45 AM (V13WU) You are blind. Can you explain how magically "Jews" are universally hated outside the Evangelical community? Of all demographics and ethnicities, why this one? Zerohedge, Stormfront, BLM, Reformed Jews (and their self-loathing) will give all kinds of crazy reasons. The Nazi propaganda film "The Eternal Jew" and many people on the street have an irrational hatred. Why? Why do so many ethnic jews vote consistently against their own interests and support a police state that will eventually kill them? Why are so many ACLU types also heavily overrepresented? Explain why so many ethnic Jews detest the existence of Israel? Why do those in Israel constantly let themselves be run over time after time after time? Insults are not arguments. Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (p8A+W) 289
Scott Ritter
@RealScottRitter It must be tough waking up in Israel this morning confronted by the reality that the vaunted Israeli military, having flexed its muscles so impressively against unarmed Palestinians over the past years, isn’t so impressive when the Palestinians fight back. If Hezbollah joins the fight, we could see the strategic defeat of Israel. If Iran joins, we could see the end of Israel. Israel brought this on itself. Thank you, Bibbi Netanyahu. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (TGPs7) 290
285 Biden staying silent isn’t incompetence. It’s a direct message to Iran to keep doing their thing.
Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (5JSDK) And his drug cocktail hasn't kicked in yet Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (bs+z0) 291
What's a 'palestinian?'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (Zz0t1) 292
I had one of those Stanley Thermos'. Then I got jealous the the guys that had the handle.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse' It's a 'Stanley thermos'! Lower-case 't'! We've been through this... sheesh... Posted by: LenNeal at October 07, 2023 10:55 AM (43xH1) Posted by: It's me donna at October 07, 2023 10:55 AM (bs+z0) 294
goodness, Austrian foreign ministry is flying Israeli flag in solidarity. how times have changed.
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:55 AM (V13WU) 295
Goodness the prayer list is long...AND bold.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden Any reports of somebody being thrown into the barrel? Posted by: Lost In Space at October 07, 2023 10:55 AM (CtmUH) 296
John Ritter > Scott Ritter
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2023 10:56 AM (I8crj) 297
278 "If one can find their location, best thing is to zero in a massive artillery strike on the spot."
WTF? Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 10:52 AM (5g9YU) I wasn't joking, and this is one of the harsh realities of being in a serious war for the life of your country. When an enemy is holding hostages, they have psychological leverage over at least some of your people. Admit that the hostages are already dead, and remove that leverage from the enemies control in any way possible, no matter how hard and cruel that seems to be. War is Cruelty, with no place for sentiment. Mourn the dead after it is over. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:56 AM (S6gqv) 298
Prayers for all.
Posted by: Mick at October 07, 2023 10:56 AM (sVc11) 299
Now Thor, there was a god of war, and don't get me started on Ares.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:49 AM (S6gqv) ----------- You're not alone me. A lot of people who bought the Aries couldn't get it started. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2023 10:56 AM (Z2aTH) 300
The Third World War: August 1985
(looks at it on my shelf; read in in August...2005) Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 I was thinking 1984 for some reason, '84 was fall of sr year of high school was when I read it. Book was a talking point. That and Orwell. So, at least two crossed wires. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 07, 2023 10:56 AM (ga8qR) 301
Israel cannot be defeat, but it can suffer losses, unfortunately...maybe this IS the time to get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah both...
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:57 AM (V13WU) 302
Why do those in Israel constantly let themselves be run over time after time after time?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (p8A+W) huh? Posted by: BignJames at October 07, 2023 10:57 AM (AwYPR) 303
NEXTA @nexta_tv 1m
The IDF is conducting an operation to clear cities of Hamas terrorists. https://tinyurl.com/2k8btcee 24 seconds; no visible bloodshed etc. Oh -- there are two videos in the one Xtweet! First is 45 seconds also no violence, just troop movements. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:57 AM (krqg6) 304
Re: Israel
Maybe someone with a Twitter account could ask Elon to kindly open Twitter back up for a while? Knowing that it’s really the only good news source we have any more? And that it’s not really a good look for Elon to put all this information behind a paywall, especially now? Anyone? Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 07, 2023 10:57 AM (kjOVp) 305
These journalists are fucking retarded.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2023 10:57 AM (I8crj) 306
*defeated
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:57 AM (V13WU) 307
What's a 'palestinian?'
Posted by: Sponge It's a fruit similar to a banana in looks and taste. Big in Jamaican cooking. Posted by: Tonypete at October 07, 2023 10:58 AM (x7plP) 308
Insults are not arguments.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (p8A+W) This is very good advice. Of course some people think that saying provocative things makes their arguments more punchy. And that causes fights and really hard feelings. Posted by: Kindltot at October 07, 2023 10:58 AM (xhaym) 309
Israel has to stop this internal strife, focus back on the Military and deterrence and tell the US and The EU to fuck off.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 10:58 AM (pmmLi) 310
Yeah sure but 0bama and Shitpants didn't write "death to Israel" on the memo line, so blah blah blah Without Evidence.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 07, 2023 10:58 AM (9UlRk) 311
I know it was claimed to be political strategy for the benefit of Israel but I hope Netanyahu realizes that his over congratulatory statement to Biden for his ‘win’ when all other world leaders were holding off during the period of dispute was unsuccessful and unnecessary. Biden gave Israel’s biggest enemy 400 billion dollars to fund this terrorism.
Posted by: Drive By at October 07, 2023 10:58 AM (MNhXM) 312
"Thermos" was originally a brand name for the generic product "vacuum-insulated bottle". I don't know if Stanley was the originator.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2023 10:58 AM (shZRq) 313
If the Palestinians in Gaza were forced into Egypt, they'd all be dead in a month. Absolutely no one in the ME wants the Palis living with or even near them.
========================== They're not "Plaestinians". Palestine was never a country, it was a geographic construct describing mostly what is Israel, now. Those people are Jordanian: worthless pawns from the shithole of the sandbox. Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 07, 2023 10:58 AM (7Fj9P) 314
NewsAlerts Global @NewsAlertsG 7s
#BREAKING: The Taliban have declared that they will “conquer Jerusalem” if Middle Eastern countries grant them passage to Israel. NewsAlerts Global @NewsAlertsG 24m #BREAKING: Hezbollah, the Lebanese paramilitary group, says it is ready to attack Israel Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 10:58 AM (krqg6) 315
American intelligence agencies are too busy imposing a dictatorship in the United States to worry about what is going on in the Middle East.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:47 AM (2tUFv) It seems to me that the failure of the (once) vaunted Israeli intel agencies is in the spot light. Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 07, 2023 10:59 AM (VloHh) 316
287 American intelligence agencies are too busy imposing a dictatorship in the United States to worry about what is going on in the Middle East.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:47 AM (2tUFv) a comment by Thomas Bender in the "War" thread is one of the things that worries me a lot - "they've given up on trying to use Ukraine to start a nuclear war, and are now going to try to get one going using the middle east." Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 10:59 AM (S6gqv) 317
You are blind.
Can you explain how magically "Jews" are universally hated outside the Evangelical community? Of all demographics and ethnicities, why this one? Zerohedge, Stormfront, BLM, Reformed Jews (and their self-loathing) will give all kinds of crazy reasons. The Nazi propaganda film "The Eternal Jew" and many people on the street have an irrational hatred. Why? Why do so many ethnic jews vote consistently against their own interests and support a police state that will eventually kill them? Why are so many ACLU types also heavily overrepresented? Explain why so many ethnic Jews detest the existence of Israel? Why do those in Israel constantly let themselves be run over time after time after time? Insults are not arguments. Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (p8A+W) I am not blind I can see clearly you are an internet troll. Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:59 AM (V13WU) 318
My take on the Jew thing is that they're trapped in a cycle of repression. Fleeing anti-Jew pogroms, they try extra hard to be friends with the powers that be in their new home and all too easily become the agents and cat's paws of that regime's dark underside. This in turn inflames anti-Jewish sentiment, that regime gets overthrown and a new round of repression begins.
Were I the religious sort, I might give some credence to that business about a divine curse. Posted by: CppThis at October 07, 2023 10:59 AM (PZvjL) 319
May GOD protect Isreal today. May He grant powers such as granted Moses, Joshua, and David.
Amen Posted by: Eromero at October 07, 2023 10:59 AM (NxC5+) 320
The big question is whether Hezbollah joins the party.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 10:59 AM (2tUFv) 321
*285 Biden staying silent isn’t incompetence.* Actually, he's watching an episode of Hazel on MeTV. He loves him some Shirley Booth! Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 07, 2023 10:59 AM (NBVIP) 322
My green Stanley thermos is over 50 years old. Beat up and still functioning and being used. It is from my father and he used to take it weekends to go fishing with me. Good times.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 07, 2023 10:59 AM (17s+e) Posted by: Methos at October 07, 2023 10:59 AM (Dnobf) 324
noood
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 07, 2023 11:00 AM (7Fj9P) 325
I love this description from Wikipedia:
"William Scott Ritter Jr. (born July 15, 1961) is an American author, international relations analyst, former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer, former United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) weapons inspector, and a convicted sex offender." Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 07, 2023 11:00 AM (PiwSw) Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (5g9YU) 327
It seems to me that the failure of the (once) vaunted Israeli intel agencies is in the spot light.
Absolutely. Bibi's done, and deservedly so. Still - we spend tens of billions of dollars allegedly so we won't be surprised by things like this happening. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (2tUFv) 328
There was very little difference between the statements put out by Oman a d our State Department office of Palestinian Affairs.
Basically: we condemn the attacks and implore Israel not to fight back. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (R8uWY) 329
301 Israel cannot be defeat, but it can suffer losses, unfortunately...maybe this IS the time to get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah both...
Posted by: runner at October 07, 2023 10:57 AM (V13WU) If you don't stop the funding, the terrorism will continue. Blame this administration and the Odumbo Admin for giving, as Carl Sagan would say, "Billions and Billions" to Iran which they funneled into nuke research and terrorist proxies. Cut off the head of the snake, the snake dies. I'd like to see the leadership of Iran have a "Series of Unfortunate Events"...car bombs, assassinations, defenestrations... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (ynpvh) 330
BREAKING: The Taliban have declared that they will “conquer Jerusalem” if Middle Eastern countries grant them passage to Israel.
Seems we armed them. Funny that. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (I8crj) 331
>"Thermos" was originally a brand name for the generic product "vacuum-insulated bottle". I don't know if Stanley was the originator.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon I'm just glad we have advanced beyond the glass-lined design Posted by: DB - at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (geLO8) 332
"Maybe there's a reason everyone hates the Jews" does not merit argument. To the extent it event warrants attention at all, it deserves nothing more than insult.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (9UlRk) 333
as to all this commentary from players in the region - never take anything an Arab says seriously, just watch what they do. It's in the nature of the entire Arab world to talk Big and do something completely different.
and Scott Ritter is a malignant fool, who understands nothing. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (S6gqv) 334
This is the only site I can bear to read on this topic.
Posted by: m at October 07, 2023 10:51 AM Conservative Treehouse commenters is also good people, and prayerful. Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (kjOVp) 335
91...You couldn't make this up:
It appears Western weapons which were supposed to be shipped to Ukraine, ended up being sold on the black market to Hamas, who are now using them against Israeli forces. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 09:52 AM (TGPs7) Completely unsurprising. There were [brief] reports of this months ago. Of course, nothing was done about it by our betters, TPTB. Anyone else notice that Hamas infiltrated the populace? Sound familiar with what's going on on our southern border. I fear the governors sending the illegals into the heartland (directly or indirectly) are (unknowingly) aiding the plan. I suppose we will find out in time. Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (Rbu5d) 336
OSINTdefender @sentdefender Unconfirmed Reports that the Egyptian Government has informed Israel that Hezbollah has notified them through Back-Channels that they will Join the War if the Israel Defense Force decides to launch a Ground Invasion of the Gaza Strip. Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 11:02 AM (TGPs7) 337
285 Biden staying silent isn’t incompetence. It’s a direct message to Iran to keep doing their thing.
Posted by: Montec at October 07, 2023 10:54 AM (5JSDK) === If you think Joepedo Biden staying silent is a message to Iran to keep, keeping on, wait until you see what happens when he he starts talking. Scott Ritter need to be kicked in the balls repeatedly. Then have them cutoff and made to swallow them. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 07, 2023 11:03 AM (17s+e) 338
Oh, and prayers up for those listed. I don't often comment on the weekend, but I usually read the prayer requests and ask the Lord's mercy on all involved.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 07, 2023 11:03 AM (Rbu5d) 339
328 There was very little difference between the statements put out by Oman a d our State Department office of Palestinian Affairs.
Basically: we condemn the attacks and implore Israel not to fight back. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (R8uWY) So like someone defending their home in Kalifornia...you must retreat as far as you can. Except in the last part, Israel is not allowed to kill the bastards killing them. I know which country could use money instead of Ukraine for fighting a war... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2023 11:03 AM (ynpvh) 340
Shit be fucked up, yo.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2023 11:04 AM (I8crj) Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 07, 2023 11:04 AM (R8uWY) 342
If the Palestinians in Gaza were forced into Egypt, they'd all be dead in a month. Absolutely no one in the ME wants the Palis living with or even near them. ========================== Are there no sactuary cities over there? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 07, 2023 11:04 AM (63Dwl) 343
Bibi's done, and deservedly so. Still - we spend tens of billions of dollars allegedly so we won't be surprised by things like this happening. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (2tUFv) I disagree - the reason Laurence Tribe and people like him are already so upset is that they realize this is the greatest poltical gift to Bibi that he's ever recieved in his lifetime, and his enemies handed it to him freely. He's just won every internal conflict in Israel, the ones he's been fighting for years. That is of course presupposing that Hamas gets slapped down quickly, and hard. But the IDF has known something like this was coming for years, and has been planning for it. The only question was the timing, and that was up to the enemy. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 11:05 AM (S6gqv) 344
338 Oh, and prayers up for those listed. I don't often comment on the weekend, but I usually read the prayer requests and ask the Lord's mercy on all involved.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 07, 2023 11:03 AM (Rbu5d) My situation is a little better. Still not putting many hours at work. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2023 11:05 AM (ynpvh) 345
Don't know if the new Stanley thermos bottles are good but the one we've been using for 40 years still works perfectly. Haven't seen one of those leather covers for a VERY long time.
Posted by: JTB at October 07, 2023 11:05 AM (7EjX1) 346
Would. Not. Have. Happened. Under. Trump.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 07, 2023 11:05 AM (17s+e) 347
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 37 minutes [Truth Social]
These Hamas attacks are a disgrace and Israel has every right to defend itself with overwhelming force. Sadly, American taxpayer dollars helped fund these attacks, which many reports are saying came from the Biden Administration. We brought so much peace to the Middle East through the Abraham Accords, only to see Biden whittle it away at a far more rapid pace than anyone thought possible. Here we go again. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 11:05 AM (krqg6) 348
"Thermos" was originally a brand name for the generic product "vacuum-insulated bottle". I don't know if Stanley was the originator.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon' The history of Thermos, the trademark, is unusual because the original owner deliberately allowed it to become genericized, thinking it was free advertising, then tried to reclaim the trademark! Original trademark ('T') was German, 1904 (Wikipedia), then it got complicated and ultimately the courts 'split' the trademark into 'Thermos' (branded vacuum flask) and 'thermos' (non-branded vacuum flask). Really strange. Posted by: LenNeal at October 07, 2023 11:05 AM (43xH1) 349
Scott Ritter need to be kicked in the balls repeatedly. Then have them cutoff and made to swallow them.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 07, 2023 11:03 AM (17s+e) And that’s just for being a child molester . Posted by: Drive By at October 07, 2023 11:06 AM (MNhXM) 350
343
Bibi's done, and deservedly so. Still - we spend tens of billions of dollars allegedly so we won't be surprised by things like this happening. Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (2tUFv) I disagree - the reason Laurence Tribe and people like him are already so upset is that they realize this is the greatest poltical gift to Bibi that he's ever recieved in his lifetime, and his enemies handed it to him freely. He's just won every internal conflict in Israel, the ones he's been fighting for years. That is of course presupposing that Hamas gets slapped down quickly, and hard. But the IDF has known something like this was coming for years, and has been planning for it. The only question was the timing, and that was up to the enemy. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 11:05 AM (S6gqv) And a repeat of the Six-Day War would be globally condemned (as is anytime Israel defends itself). The same players always there: UN, EU, other leftist orgs. It's almost like the Holocaust never happened in Europe... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2023 11:07 AM (ynpvh) 351
That's disgusting
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 07, 2023 10:52 AM (pmmLi) It is. I have never seen an ethnicity so bent on their own self-destruction. From the Exodus until 70AD, it was like trying to conjure up the Wrath of God was a sport. On the other hand, some of the strongest survivors are from the same genes. JPFO is lightyears ahead of the NRA and GOA in terms of preserving 2A. Many here are fighters. But those are anomalies. Look inside every Left wing/Communist executive branch since Nixon, or in an ivy league staff room and the most prominent ones seeking self-destruction is a Who's Who list. Whether it is destroying rule of law, the economy, advocating crime and violence through policy, whatever. It is self and culture destroying. Please, give me names of those in political power or influence who aren't tearing the place up. Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 11:08 AM (p8A+W) 352
Unconfirmed Reports that the Egyptian Government has informed Israel that Hezbollah has notified them through Back-Channels that they will Join the War if the Israel Defense Force decides to launch a Ground Invasion of the Gaza Strip.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 11:02 AM (TGPs7) Stupid - Arab fighters only have a chance when they launch a surprise attack, Hezbollah is going to do what - send motorcycles against concrete machine gun bunkers on the northern line? Now they do have a lot of missiles to fire off, but that will also expose them to massive missile retaliation. the only really big question mark is whether Iran has cobbled together a working nuke yet or not. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 11:08 AM (S6gqv) 353
BREAKING: The Taliban have declared that they will “conquer Jerusalem” if Middle Eastern countries grant them passage to Israel.
Seems we armed them. Funny that. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (I8crj) ------------ Ayyubid Dynasty redux. First time as tragedy, second time as farce. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2023 11:09 AM (Snikh) 354
346 Would. Not. Have. Happened. Under. Trump.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 07, 2023 11:05 AM (17s+e) Which reminds me. Saw a news article about continued cooperation and agreements between Saudi and Israel, so what Trump started is still paying off. Less than 1 term, deals with Israel and some of her semi-hostile regional cohabitants. Almost seems like coming from a position of strength helps...instead of funding your enemies. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2023 11:09 AM (ynpvh) 355
I don't think Stanley was a major player in the coffee-urn business until the all stainless version was invented in 1966.
There is a larger size than the one shown; I inherited one from my uncle, and it had a crushed-copper tubing handle roughly riveted on. Apparently he would take coffee for his whole "water department" crew (read "sewer"). Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 07, 2023 11:10 AM (4PZHB) 356
Now do Kleenex.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 07, 2023 11:11 AM (NBVIP) 357
352 Unconfirmed Reports that the Egyptian Government has informed Israel that Hezbollah has notified them through Back-Channels that they will Join the War if the Israel Defense Force decides to launch a Ground Invasion of the Gaza Strip.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2023 11:02 AM (TGPs7) Stupid - Arab fighters only have a chance when they launch a surprise attack, Hezbollah is going to do what - send motorcycles against concrete machine gun bunkers on the northern line? Now they do have a lot of missiles to fire off, but that will also expose them to massive missile retaliation. the only really big question mark is whether Iran has cobbled together a working nuke yet or not. Posted by: Tom Servo at October 07, 2023 11:08 AM (S6gqv) If that happens, take Sinai and Gaza (AGAIN) and don't give it back this time; it's a buffer zone. Gaza is like having an enclave of gang-bangers in your neighborhood. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2023 11:12 AM (ynpvh) Posted by: JT at October 07, 2023 11:12 AM (T4tVD) 359
Well, that music means we're all out of time for today. Tune in next week for "Thermos Talk" on PBS.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 07, 2023 11:12 AM (NBVIP) 360
I'm just glad we have advanced beyond the glass-lined design
Posted by: DB - at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (geLO ![]() ---------- Naw. Swallowing shards of glass from your lunch box thermos was a rite of passage for American third graders. Made them tough. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2023 11:13 AM (Z2aTH) 361
356 Now do Kleenex.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 07, 2023 11:11 AM (NBVIP) Xerox. They fought it, but people still call copies Xeroxes. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2023 11:13 AM (ynpvh) 362
Trademarks and genericization fascinate me. It's amazing how many terms start as some specific name dreamed up by someone, then become common and nobody even knows where the term came from originally.
In E. Europe (not noted for copyright/trademark enforcement!) there are lots of storefront copy/print shops because people can't afford to buy printers or the cartridges for them, and a lot of them will flat-out advertise 'xeroxes' right on their public signs. And almost every day-care center or anyplace for kids has huge hand-painted signs with trademarked cartoon characters. Posted by: LenNeal at October 07, 2023 11:13 AM (43xH1) 363
Personal. Grooming gone wrong. Josh was 39; Rob was 19 and homeless.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 07, 2023 10:22 AM (AcWfM) Pretty much what we called it here. Grooming, Grindr "date", or drug deal gone bad. But it was personal, and caused by Kruger's perversions. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 07, 2023 11:13 AM (wQDJT) 364
What happened to the Israel of 1973?
I want those guys back. They modify and improve US made weapons; their intelligence networks are unparalleled by anyone; they took care of the problem decisively with Egypt - such where Egypt is no factor for two generations, yet for weird unknown reasons, withdrew and let their cancerous neighbors metastasize. What happened in the interim? The same thing that happened to the UK that ruled the globe until WW2 where after that UK went on a suicide mission? Where does this come from? Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 07, 2023 11:15 AM (p8A+W) 365
Ruben,
This has been a ongoing argument with my self proclaimed, agnostic, Jew-hating, "Jewish" best friend for 35 years. He can't stand Jews. He says that they should never be trusted because betrayal is in their genes. His family has disowned him and he's actually proud of it. Posted by: pawn at October 07, 2023 11:15 AM (5g9YU) 366
Pro-Russian site [Lebanese guy runs]:
War Monitor @WarMonitors 1h ⚡️View from space of the shit going down today https://tinyurl.com/mtsj5a75 satellite map photo Ukrainian site: NEXTA @nexta_tv 1h This is what Israel looks from a bird's eye view https://tinyurl.com/mtmsxphz satellite image but something's a little different but I can't quite put my finger on it. ![]() Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 11:17 AM (krqg6) 367
Xerox. They fought it, but people still call copies Xeroxes. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 07, 2023 11:13 AM (ynpvh) ---------- Aspirin was a trademark of Bayer Chemical. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2023 11:17 AM (Z2aTH) 368
Bayer had a short but storied history as Nazi suppliers/collaborators too, but for some reason they don't mention that on their website.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 07, 2023 11:19 AM (Z2aTH) 369
Black hat @WorldObserver0 2h
Map of the directions of Hamas attacks in Israel, https://tinyurl.com/mr332y54 9 seconds; don't know about accuracy but I don't see why not. Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 11:23 AM (krqg6) 370
The nood is meant for non-War topics as KT went to the trouble of writing a topic for it.
(Note: This is an open thread, but there is an Israel war thread just below this one.) Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 11:24 AM (krqg6) 371
A Hindu man supporting Israel:
Suresh Parmar® @iamSureshParmar 1h Gaza is currently under heavy Israeli airstrikes. After the killing of innocent Israeli citizens, Mohammed Deif, the Hamas military commander, says: ‘We want the international community to stop atrocities in Gaza against the Palestinian people.’ #Palestine #Israel #Hamas #War #Gaza #IsraelUnderAttack Suresh Parmar® @iamSureshParmar 3h India with Israel 🇮🇳 I Stand With Israel https://tinyurl.com/ezrjccwn 27 seconds; chanting in Hindi but partial English signs read "India and Israel united against terrorism". Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 11:33 AM (krqg6) 372
So many prayers for the Horde in need and for the Israeli people.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 07, 2023 11:35 AM (Sgq8y) 373
Suresh Parmar® @iamSureshParmar 5h
Hamas is getting hammered by Israel. Operation Iron Swords 🔥 Now, wait for these Palestinian terrorists to cry about human rights violations. India Stand With Israel https://tinyurl.com/59jshe6v 45 seconds; night-cam IDF air force strikes Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 11:36 AM (krqg6) 374
OK; old very-full War Thread reinitialized instead of using this one.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 07, 2023 11:41 AM (krqg6) 375
Looks like the NGO side of the Uniparty wanted in on the War Action they were missing out on in Ukraine.
Basically this is all the result of the Afghanistan Forever War winding down. Maniacs, each and every last one of these monsters. Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 07, 2023 11:46 AM (OCiQ0) 376
Windy out thar.
Posted by: JT at October 07, 2023 12:02 PM (T4tVD) 377
A gentle reminder to those blasting anyone who points out the insanity of Jews' voting record. Let's recall J.J.'s reference to "self-gassing Jews". Sefton beat us to it years ago.
Posted by: creeper at October 07, 2023 02:01 PM (cTCuP) 378
That thermos of coffee went on every family road trip in the Oldsmobile station wagon. Didn't have no stinkin' cup holders. Mom would hold the cup of coffee and share it with dad. My brother and I would smell it while we were in the back of the station wagon playing cards. No stinkin' seatbelts back there.
Posted by: Solutus at October 07, 2023 05:02 PM (Jnnb9) 379
https://www.facebook.com/100552491735621/ is on her death bed
Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 07, 2023 05:24 PM (WIPXG) 380
334 This is the only site I can bear to read on this topic.
Posted by: m at October 07, 2023 10:51 AM Conservative Treehouse commenters is also good people, and prayerful. Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 07, 2023 11:01 AM (kjOVp) Thank you! Posted by: m at October 07, 2023 06:21 PM (SbC6h) 381
359 Well, that music means we're all out of time for today. Tune in next week for "Thermos Talk" on PBS.
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