Daily Tech News 1 October 2023

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Betteridge Falls: How overly-convenient Obama-era psychological research continues to unravel, to the point that it endangers the entire field. (New Yorker)

I've mentioned Dan Ariely and Francesca Gino before, and how their research data appears to have frequent disconnects with reality. A team of researchers called Data Colada has been doing a deep dive into over a decade of papers authored or co-authored by the two, and found a lot of problems.

I say that because Data Colada is now facing a $25 million defamation lawsuit for daring to question Gino's methodology, even though it increasingly looks closer to masturbation than rigorous science.

Speaking of which:
George Loewenstein, a titan of behavioral science and a co-author of Ariely's masturbation paper, has refashioned his research program, conceding that his own work might have contributed to an emphasis on the individual at the expense of the systemic. "This is the stuff that C.E.O.s love, right?" Luigi Zingales, an economist at the University of Chicago, told me. "It's cutesy, it's not really touching their power, and pretends to do the right thing."
CEOs and Democratic presidents.
At the end of [Joe] Simmons's unpublished post [for Data Colada], he writes, "An influential portion of our literature is effectively a made-up story of human-like creatures who are so malleable that virtually any intervention administered at one point in time can drastically change their behavior." He adds that a "field cannot reward truth if it does not or cannot decipher it, so it rewards other things instead. Interestingness. Novelty. Speed. Impact. Fantasy. And it effectively punishes the opposite. Intuitive Findings. Incremental Progress. Care. Curiosity. Reality."
It also cannot reward truth if the auditors can be sued into silence.

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So what's the fallout for all this, for the discovery that massively popular and highly-cited research in modern psychology may turn out to be a series of just-so stories?

Nothing, because everyone kind of knew that psychology was like that. (Experimental History)

There are serious psychological researchers like Jeremy Wolfe who has spent forty years figuring out how people notice things - what exactly is in the brain that converts a bunch of green on the retina into a frog or a tennis ball.

And then there's the other kind:
Earlier, the Colada boys had found evidence of fraud in a paper co-authored by Duke professor Dan Ariely. The real juicy bit? There's a paper written by both Ariely and Gino in which they might have independently faked the data for two separate studies in the same article. Oh, and the paper is about dishonesty.
Really.
(Both Ariely and Gino deny any wrongdoing. Since we're now in the business of suing blogs, let me state that I, of course, have no idea if Ariely, Gino, or anybody else ever engaged in research misconduct. There's no evidence that I have any ideas at all! I'm just a bunch of bees!)
Buzz.
This whole debacle matters a lot socially: careers ruined, reputations in tatters, lawsuits flying. But strangely, it doesn't seem to matter much scientifically. That is, our understanding of psychology remains unchanged. If you think of psychology as a forest, we haven't felled a tree or even broken a branch. We've lost a few apples.
That might sound like a dunk on Gino and Ariely, or like a claim about how experimental psychology is wonderfully robust. It is, unfortunately, neither. It is actually a terrifying fact that you can reveal whole swaths of a scientific field to be fraudulent and it doesn't make a difference. It's also a chance to see exactly what's gone wrong in psychology, and maybe how we can put it right.
More than 25 years ago, Alan Sokal proved that sociological journals will publish unmitigated nonsense if it appeals to the reviewers' prejudices.

More recently Helen Pluckrose, James Lindsay, and Peter Boghossian repeated Sokal's work planting ludicrously implausible papers in supposedly academic journals. (Also note in that article that Sean Carroll criticised their essential work for "meanness". He seems like a nice enough guy when he's talking about physics, but he immediately blocked me on Twitter when I corrected him on a topic far outside his realm of expertise.)
But hey, these are just three people, albeit three pretty famous people. Maybe the impact of any single scientist is simply too small to be seen from a distance. If you deleted a whole bunch of papers from across the literature, though, that would really make a difference, and we'd have to rebuild big parts of the field from the ground up. Right?

No, not really. We did delete those papers, and nothing much happened. In 2015, a big team of researchers tried to redo 100 psychology studies, and about 60% failed to replicate. This finding made big waves and headlines, and it's already been cited nearly 8,000 times.
If this happened in physics, it would be like finding out the Moon isn't real.

In psychology, it makes no difference.
But there's no world-changing insight like relativity, evolution, or DNA, nor any smaller-but-still-very-cool discoveries like polymerase chain reaction, CRISPR, or Higgs bosons. Only a few psychological discoveries are mentioned by more than one commenter, except for "most psychology studies are bunk." If Bloom can't think of any major recent discoveries, and if none of his friends can agree on any major recent discoveries, then maybe there aren't any major recent discoveries. (I know that might be a bummer to hear, but don't shoot the messenger. Besides, good luck trying to shoot a bunch of bees.)
If someone tries to tell you that psychology has proved something, sting them.
If you want a single SSD larger than 4TB, go for U.2 rather than M.2. (Tom's Hardware)

Enterprise U.2 8TB drives are cheaper than consumer-grade M.2 models. I don't know why, exactly, but it's consistently true.

Enterprise U.2 8TB drives are in fact about the same price per GB as the cheapest consumer SSDs.
Progress is having more trouble with massive server software insecurities. (Bleeping Computer)

Not with Progress itself, but with products from companies they acquired. It's a mess.
So is Exim, a mail server run by hundreds of thousands of companies worldwide. (Ars Technica)

At least there's a patch you can install today to fix that.

Lol. Just kidding. It's a critical vulnerability in critical software and there's no patch.
The Minisforum BD770i is a mini-ITX motherboard with a Ryzen 7745HX laptop CPU though nobody knows why. (Liliputing)

The 7840HS would make sense: Eight cores, low power, strong integrated graphics.

The 7745HX also has eight cores, but just one sixth the graphics hardware. It's slightly faster, but why not just use a regular desktop 7700?

Disclaimer: This is not a blog, the opinions found herein do not exist and are merely figments of your imagination, and very likely you do not exist either. We are all but bees.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:06 AM

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1 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 04:09 AM (fwDg9)

2 Busy bees?

Posted by: m at October 01, 2023 04:10 AM (aWeTk)

3 Good day Pixy, hope Spring is sufficiently breaking out for you.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:10 AM (W028D)

4 Good morning Skip. Hope you had a few good hours of sleep.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:11 AM (W028D)

5 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 01, 2023 04:11 AM (adINt)

6 Couple, yesterday after this fell asleep until 6

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 04:13 AM (fwDg9)

7 >>>it rewards other things instead. Interestingness. Novelty. Speed. Impact. Fantasy. And it effectively punishes the opposite. Intuitive Findings. Incremental Progress. Care. Curiosity. Reality.

Clicks. Likes.

Posted by: m at October 01, 2023 04:14 AM (aWeTk)

8 Buzzz, mother-------.

Posted by: actually a hornet at October 01, 2023 04:14 AM (DgGvY)

9 3 Good day Pixy, hope Spring is sufficiently breaking out for you.

The trees in the garden are in full leaf again, but overnight temperatures are expected to drop back down to freezing next weekend. Compared to Sydney I have two more months of winter up here, which I will gladly take in exchange for no more nights that never cool down.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 01, 2023 04:17 AM (BLOW1)

10 Enterprise U.2 8TB drives are cheaper than consumer-grade M.2 models. I don't know why, exactly, but it's consistently true.

Are these the same form factor as M.2 SSDs? They sound like they might be a fantastic option for a solid state. NAS.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:17 AM (W028D)

11 But bees!

Posted by: m at October 01, 2023 04:19 AM (aWeTk)

12 >>>Obama-era psychological research

LOL
Talk about going down in tatters.

Posted by: m at October 01, 2023 04:20 AM (aWeTk)

13 Are these the same form factor as M.2 SSDs? They sound like they might be a fantastic option for a solid state. NAS.

They're physically the size of a 2.5" drive, but have an interface that's compatible with M.2. You can buy cheap cables to interface them. Mostly they're used for servers; very few desktop motherboards have U.2 connectors.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 01, 2023 04:21 AM (BLOW1)

14
:: breaks out fly swatter ::

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2023 04:22 AM (enJYY)

15 The trees in the garden are in full leaf again, but overnight temperatures are expected to drop back down to freezing next weekend. Compared to Sydney I have two more months of winter up here, which I will gladly take in exchange for no more nights that never cool down.
Posted by: Pixy Misa

After a summer of consistently hundred degree Fahrenheit days Southern New Mexico is finally slipping into lovely days that top out at 90 and drop into 70 in the evening. This is when a lot of big fairs and festivals occur here. From now to the end of the year the weather will slowly cool down until we hit January to February when it drops into the 20s at night and only warms up to about 50.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:22 AM (W028D)

16 >>>An observer said, “We were, like, Holy shit, there are two different people independently faking data on the same paper.”

First caption in The New Yorker article.
I am stunned. I am gonna bet that will be subsequently edited out for family consumption, quote or not.

Posted by: m at October 01, 2023 04:22 AM (aWeTk)

17 By some sorcery my magically disappearing comments are no longer falling into the bit bin. This may or may not be a good thing.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:24 AM (W028D)

18 Ars Technica common threads are close to communist struggle sessions. I can't remember what the article about but some commenter called the US 5th Circuit Court Nazis. In return, I noted that the US 9th circuit Court were mostly communists. Hilarity ensued.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:29 AM (W028D)

19 hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY?

Posted by: Ciampino - Honk if you love peace and quiet... at October 01, 2023 04:31 AM (qfLjt)

20 Ciampino, The Kitty camera tonight was a big bust. All they did was sleep. You should throw a puppy in there.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:32 AM (W028D)

21 Here are some smart people talking about Free Speech and cancel society and also about social psychology (including works by Jonathan Haidt):

Greg Lukianoff: Cancel Culture, Deplatforming, Censorship & Free Speech | Lex Fridman Podcast #397

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=
buarAx_u2qg&ab_channel=
LexFridman

Posted by: m at October 01, 2023 04:32 AM (aWeTk)

22
https://www.youtube.com/c/lexfridman

Posted by: m at October 01, 2023 04:38 AM (aWeTk)

23 We are all but bees.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:06 AM
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..... and we just bumble about.

Posted by: Ciampino - i souport publik edekasion at October 01, 2023 04:40 AM (qfLjt)

24 17 my magically disappearing comments
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:24 AM (W028D)

Did they reappear?

Posted by: m at October 01, 2023 04:45 AM (aWeTk)

25 20 Ciampino, The Kitty camera tonight was a big bust. All they did was sleep. You should throw a puppy in there.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:32 AM (W028D)
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What can I say. The 3 boy babies are now spending almost all the time with us in the rest of the house. Their Mum, Biscuits, hides under a bed in one of the other rooms. You need to check soon after a feeding when the adults are quite active. Just after 7am most days. Evenings are more variable. I guess I need to post something when they are awake.

Posted by: Ciampino - i souport publik edekasion .. at October 01, 2023 04:47 AM (qfLjt)

26 My Verizon 5G home internet, after a week or two of less than stellar up and down speeds has stabilized. I am consistently getting 300 Mbs down and 25 Mbs up even when I have Netflix streaming on a TV and a PC that's interacting heavily with the internet at the time I run the speed test. Of course Verizon has already raised the price for service from $35 a month for 3 years with unlimited data to $45 a month with the same conditions. Over the last 5 weeks I have encountered three times when it buffered for about a minute or so in the middle of the day; I suspect the tower I am hitting which sits at the intersection of two highways was under load and the Verizon software had to rebalance things. Overall, it has been a fantastic home internet service for the money and I can't see any reason why not to recommend it provided it's available to you.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:48 AM (W028D)

27 To sleep, parchance to win the Lottery …

Posted by: Adriane the I like the Internet Critic . . . at October 01, 2023 04:51 AM (4Winp)

28
Took my car to get detailed. I discovered that the owner has a diploma on the wall to show that he has a degree in Philosophy. So now he uses his knowledge to wax philosophically.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2023 04:52 AM (enJYY)

29 my magically disappearing comments
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:24 AM (W028D)

Did they reappear?
Posted by: m

For about a week and a half I would post a comment and as soon as the next one came along mine would get stomped on. The other day things went back to normal. The comments that got stomped on are lost forever. This too may or may not be a good thing.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 04:52 AM (W028D)

30 A tall tower in Sri Lanka

https://is.gd/3TtYkW

https://is.gd/soYnOR

Posted by: Ciampino - i souport publik edekasion . at October 01, 2023 05:00 AM (qfLjt)

31 Good morning morons

Local TV news reports two well-known restaurants on the same block in Oakland are closing. The owner of Le Cheval stands in the dining room crying. "It's crime!" he insists. Diners are not coming at night and employees are afraid to come to work just a few blocks from City Hall and the Federal building.

He says he will re-open his restaurant in Arizona.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:19 AM (RIvkX)

32 Pixy -

The New Yorker article was a good read. Thanks.

Posted by: Adriane the I like the Internet Critic . . . at October 01, 2023 05:21 AM (4Winp)

33 G'morning, all!

Brisket went in the smoker at 210 degrees at 0430.

Installed the new 8 port ethernet switch, doorbell camera and moved the second router in access point mode to the front of the house to give the front security cameras s little bit of stronger WiFi.

The other router arrives today, and that will go in the kitchen to get the first floor and smart TV.

Should give me good coverage out into the back yard as well.

Neighbors come over at 5;30 for supper, so let's see how the brisket goes.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 01, 2023 05:23 AM (1n+EO)

34 “In 2020, he writes, the Israeli government sought his help with pandemic-lockdown strategy. “covid in many ways was the highlight of my career,” he told me.”

How very comforting.

Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 05:25 AM (+4yUt)

35 Good morning morons

Local TV news reports two well-known restaurants on the same block in Oakland are closing. The owner of Le Cheval stands in the dining room crying. "It's crime!" he insists. Diners are not coming at night and employees are afraid to come to work just a few blocks from City Hall and the Federal building.

He says he will re-open his restaurant in Arizona.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

If this trend continues, it is a matter of time before the bluehole cities are commercial and retail ghost towns. It is then, if not sooner, the feral youths of all ages will start foraging in the suburbs. That I predict will not go well for the feral youths of all ages.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:26 AM (W028D)

36 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 05:27 AM (T4tVD)

37 I like smoked brisket. Hardly ever get to have it. Not a lot of smoking around here.

Ever since their matriarch passed away a few years ago, our next door neighbors no longer dry their meat on the back porch.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:27 AM (RIvkX)

38 If this trend continues, it is a matter of time before the bluehole cities are commercial and retail ghost towns. It is then, if not sooner, the feral youths of all ages will start foraging in the suburbs. That I predict will not go well for the feral youths of all ages.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:26 AM (W028D)
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Its already happening, spreading to the quieter parts of Oakland, Berkeley, and in Marin county too. Downtown SF is already a ghost town.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:29 AM (RIvkX)

39
Psychology: A blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2023 05:30 AM (MoZTd)

40 "I like smoked brisket. Hardly ever get to have it."

Dinner is at 6:00.

Door is open.

This will only be my fourth brisket since I started learning how to do this stuff.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 01, 2023 05:31 AM (1n+EO)

41 Faking data. Interesting in the NYer essay to read how font types spit out from different apps led to questions about authenticity.

Gosh, that tracks with Dan Rather’s faked tang documents.

Mind. Your. Fonts.

Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 05:32 AM (73YOJ)

42 To sleep, parchance to win the Lottery …
Posted by: Adriane the I like the Internet Critic . . . at October 01, 2023 04:51 AM (4Winp)

I didn't win....AGAIN !

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 05:35 AM (T4tVD)

43 NY communist Jamal Bowman pulled a fire alarm in a House office building last week. He is accused of breaking the same law used against J6 protesters. He obstructed official proceedings and committed a misdemeanor by pulling a false alarm. Then lied about it. Because he thinks he can get away with it. He can, in our system of "justice."

Our betters.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:36 AM (RIvkX)

44 Its already happening, spreading to the quieter parts of Oakland, Berkeley, and in Marin county too. Downtown SF is already a ghost town.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:29 AM (RIvkX)

What about south between Daly City to Palo Alto?

Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 05:36 AM (73YOJ)

45 Its already happening, spreading to the quieter parts of Oakland, Berkeley, and in Marin county too. Downtown SF is already a ghost town. Posted by: San Franpsycho

Great. It would seem at some point a cultural tripwire is going to be hit and the locals will introduce the feral youths of all ages to the second amendment. Something's got to change and quick; I'm not holding out hope that this will happen.

In other news to Biden administration is trying to ban conventional gas furnaces and replace them with gas furnaces whose efficiency standards are unicorn level. I'm pretty sure nobody asked for this.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:37 AM (W028D)

46 Mornin'
(sips coffee)

Road Trip!!! Driving up to Western PA today to spend a week on my sister's farm. Looking forward to getting out of Babylon DC for a week and seeing the aging Parental Units. Gotta visit them when they are still above ground. They're pretty wobbly these days. I'm taking a different route this year. I-68 to Rt 40 to Rt 18. Might be an extra hour to the trip but haven't taken that route in a long time. I-68 is a pretty drive in Western MD. Underrated really.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 01, 2023 05:38 AM (sAmhv)

47 There used to be a Chicago style deli in Hayes Valley that made incredibly juicy brisket. I would go in there and mock their hot dogs then have a brisket sandwich.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:38 AM (RIvkX)

48 Faking data. Interesting in the NYer essay to read how font types spit out from different apps led to questions about authenticity.

Gosh, that tracks with Dan Rather’s faked tang documents.

Mind. Your. Fonts.
Posted by: 13times

Dan Rather got busted in the exact same manner over some some phony reporting.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:39 AM (W028D)

49 What about south between Daly City to Palo Alto?
Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 05:36 AM (73YOJ)
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There has been mass looting incidents at Tanforan mall in Daly City and at the Stanford Mall. But anecdotally the real crime and violence is centered in Oakland and to a lesser extent in SF...9 times out of ten, its people from there coming here to do their crimes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:42 AM (RIvkX)

50 There used to be a Chicago style deli in Hayes Valley that made incredibly juicy brisket. I would go in there and mock their hot dogs then have a brisket sandwich.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

You would not mock Lalo's Sonoran dogs here in Las Cruces. When I mentioned to them we are in the Chihuahua desert and they don't have a Chihuahua dog they suggest I go have brisket.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:43 AM (W028D)

51 Decades ago SF peninsula residents voted against BART extensions from Daly City south to San Jose because they didn’t want to give urban criminals easy access to their residences - like Hillsborough.

Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 05:43 AM (73YOJ)

52 "I would love to have a hot dog right now but I want one without a lot b.s. on it, so let me have a brisket instead."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:44 AM (RIvkX)

53 So the new way of doing business in Congress is Hoodies, gym rat attire, and pull fire alarms if you want to call recess?

Well....seems a little less professional than the old way, but who am I to judge?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 01, 2023 05:44 AM (1n+EO)

54 Decades ago SF peninsula residents voted against BART extensions from Daly City south to San Jose because they didn’t want to give urban criminals easy access to their residences - like Hillsborough.
Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 05:43 AM (73YOJ)
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They were right

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:45 AM (RIvkX)

55 Tanforan was always a bit sketchy compared to malls in San Mateo.

Thanks for the update.

Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 05:46 AM (73YOJ)

56 You would not mock Lalo's Sonoran dogs here in Las Cruces. ...
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:43 AM (W028D)

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Of course I would. What those people do to hot dogs is a crime.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:47 AM (RIvkX)

57 I got some panicked texts yesterday from some of my buddies that one of our favorite diners in NY got flooded out.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:49 AM (RIvkX)

58 The wackadoodle Muslims who moved from Georgia to Taos, New Mexico to set up a terrorist training camp and somehow managed to starve a 5-year-old to death are finally headed to trial after years of delay.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:49 AM (W028D)

59 Evening and morning, all!

I'm not a bee. I'm a wasp, baby. Bigger and *way* meaner!

(Fun TV trivia: in the Man From U.N.C.L.E. pilot, Thrush was originally called "Wasp." You can still see it in the film version, To Trap a Spy.) (Hey, that's better than some of the names bandied about early on for the evil organization. At one point they were considering CRUSH, HARM, SQUID, and -- get this -- MAGGOT. The mind reels.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2023 05:51 AM (omVj0)

60 Local TV news reports Newsom vetoed another leftist bill that would have granted unemployment benefits eligibility to employees after two weeks on strike.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:51 AM (RIvkX)

61 Psychology: A blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2023

***
I think philosophy has also been described the same way.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2023 05:52 AM (omVj0)

62 At one point they were considering CRUSH, HARM, SQUID, and -- get this -- MAGGOT. The mind reels.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I would have gone with maggot. But then again I prefer Sonoran dogs to brisket.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:53 AM (W028D)

63 In the meantime, tens of thousands of Armenians are being displaced from their homes in Nagorno Karabakh and hardly a peep from the state media.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:53 AM (RIvkX)

64 Local TV news reports Newsom vetoed another leftist bill that would have granted unemployment benefits eligibility to employees after two weeks on strike.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I hope you realize that he has set the standard for New Mexico governors. I do not consider this a good thing.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:55 AM (W028D)

65 even though it increasingly looks closer to masturbation than rigorous science

Rigorous scientific masturbation...
Hey, I'm working on a term paper!

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 05:57 AM (vd8XM)

66 Faux News desperately trying to pin "Donald Duck" onto Trump.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 05:58 AM (RIvkX)

67 The Sierra-Cascade got enough rain two nights ago to end fire season. So that’s something.

Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 05:59 AM (73YOJ)

68 I hope you realize that he has set the standard for New Mexico governors. I do not consider this a good thing.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:55 AM (W028D)
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Yes, I've heard about her.

She seems nice.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:00 AM (RIvkX)

69 Today is shaping up to be a great day! Somehow I have an appointment to go smoke a cigar and drink whiskey at my local Elks club while watching football.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:00 AM (W028D)

70 Got to feed some kittens. Coincidentally, they happen to be *my* kittens. So at least I'm not wasting resources on strangers' felines.

Except for Alfred the Gray, the skinny gray shorthair who visits nearly every day and who gets quality dry food. He's quite sociable. He may be a neglected pet allowed to roam, or an abandoned pet who is making a living the best he can.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 01, 2023 06:01 AM (omVj0)

71 70 Got to feed some kittens. Coincidentally, they happen to be *my* kittens. So at least I'm not wasting resources on strangers' felines.

Except for Alfred the Gray, the skinny gray shorthair who visits nearly every day and who gets quality dry food. He's quite sociable. He may be a neglected pet allowed to roam, or an abandoned pet who is making a living the best he can.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Or a kittuh taking advantage of a situation. Kittuhs are opportunists.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 01, 2023 06:03 AM (sAmhv)

72 Feral behavior is not tolerated up here. Yes, it definitely happens, but the miscreants don't subsequently run free to reoffend. Antifa discovered that shit don't play here long ago.

I can see a difference between now and 14 years earlier though it is in no way to the same degree as NYC.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 01, 2023 06:04 AM (KATBx)

73 Ever since their matriarch passed away a few years ago, our next door neighbors no longer dry their meat on the back porch.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Dry their meat?

Is that fancy talk for nude sunbathing?

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:07 AM (vd8XM)

74 I do have some good news. Bacon.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:07 AM (RIvkX)

75 Today is shaping up to be a great day! Somehow I have an appointment to go smoke a cigar and drink whiskey at my local Elks club while watching football.
Posted by: Lost In Space

Sounds like a great day!

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:07 AM (vd8XM)

76
Is there any single meaningful metric which shows things are better under Biden?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2023 06:08 AM (enJYY)

77 Thought I missed Krak

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 06:09 AM (fwDg9)

78 Dry their meat?

Is that fancy talk for nude sunbathing?
Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:07 AM (vd8XM)
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She always had some strips of beef laying out in the sun over there. Sometimes she would use the clothesline.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:09 AM (RIvkX)

79 The local retailers in downtown Las Cruces, if you can call it a downtown, are under assault by all the lunatic drug addicts urban campers who break their windows, leave trash everywhere and when they can get their mits on spray paint they use it. This is costing the business owners thousands and thousands of dollars to deal with. When they complained to the city the city says it's a police problem and the police say it's a court problem and the court says it's just legislative problem and the legislature says we're not trying hard enough to be inclusive. At some point normal folks are going to be forced to become Rooftop Koreans.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:10 AM (W028D)

80 Thought I missed Krak
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 06:09 AM (fwDg9)

He's been kidnapped again ?

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 06:11 AM (T4tVD)

81 Elegant design- a devotional from the Book of Genesis and appropriate for both Christians and Jews:

https://tinyurl.com/36vre4um

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 06:12 AM (r5LH6)

82 She always had some strips of beef laying out in the sun over there. Sometimes she would use the clothesline.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Mother Gaia's All Natural Beef Jerky

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:12 AM (vd8XM)

83 He's been kidnapped again ?
Posted by: JT

Damn Iranians,

I ain't paying the ransom this time!

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:13 AM (vd8XM)

84 She always had some strips of beef laying out in the sun over there. Sometimes she would use the clothesline.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Mother Gaia's All Natural Beef Jerky
Posted by: Bruce

Did you ever notice if the cat population fluctuated?

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:13 AM (W028D)

85 Did you ever notice if the cat population fluctuated?
Posted by: Lost In Space

HA!!

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:15 AM (vd8XM)

86 Officer risks life to save boy from being electrocuted:

https://tinyurl.com/4h9sr2fs

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 06:16 AM (r5LH6)

87 This post needed the Nic Cage meme/gif. Thatisall.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at October 01, 2023 06:16 AM (tjZop)

88 Did you ever notice if the cat population fluctuated?
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:13 AM (W028D)
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Not a lot of outdoor cats around here. We have a lot of coyotes. There is one cat we see in our yard that must weigh 30 pounds. He is gigantic.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:17 AM (RIvkX)

89 The rear legs of cats are amazing.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:18 AM (W028D)

90 Or a kittuh taking advantage of a situation. Kittuhs are opportunists.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 01, 2023 06:03 AM (sAmhv)
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Indeed. That's how I wound up with another kitty this past December on Christmas Eve when it was freezing cold outside.

Now she's taken over half my house.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 01, 2023 06:18 AM (BpYfr)

91 867 incidents daily
200 staff assaulted each month
1.8 Billion cost to retailers
Police do not attend 90% calls

Looting in all four corners of the United Kingdom is out of hand.

Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 06:19 AM (73YOJ)

92 Nice story about a UPS driver and a dog. Sunny Skyz story:

https://tinyurl.com/msnec85n

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 06:20 AM (r5LH6)

93 1.8 Billion cost to retailers

So?? They have insurance!

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:21 AM (vd8XM)

94 Corny Joke

How does a rancher keep track of his cattle?

A cow-culator

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 06:22 AM (r5LH6)

95 The next 4 days we have high temps in the 80's here in No Ill.

Then, fall temps start up. Yay!!

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:22 AM (vd8XM)

96 How does a rancher keep track of his cattle?

A cow-culator
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

HA!!

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:22 AM (vd8XM)

97 78 Dry their meat?

Is that fancy talk for nude sunbathing?
Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:07 AM (vd8XM)
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She always had some strips of beef laying out in the sun over there. Sometimes she would use the clothesline.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:09 AM (RIvkX)
----
So she was making beef jerky or biltong the traditional way using the sun.

Posted by: Ciampino - i souport publik edekasion ... at October 01, 2023 06:23 AM (qfLjt)

98 Smoky Mountains in TN:

https://tinyurl.com/y6dxv6bj

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 06:23 AM (r5LH6)

99 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 01, 2023 06:24 AM (ju2Fy)

100 Oh geez, the Chicago Bears are playing the Denver Broncos.

Based on last weeks numbers I'm predicting the scores to be in the negatives.

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:24 AM (vd8XM)

101 Keep 'em comin' Fen !

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 06:24 AM (T4tVD)

102 Mrs. F. is here this morning for the first time in 3 days so Imma welcome her home by whining up some blueberry pancakes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:25 AM (RIvkX)

103 whining up some blueberry pancakes.

Okay?

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:26 AM (vd8XM)

104 These 'psychologists' have been left in their own personal Skinner box of masturbation and pron too long?

That's what it seems like. Or they followed the L. Ron Hubbard school of money making.

Oh wait, might as well embrace the healing power of 'and' on this.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2023 06:27 AM (gVV9B)

105 Small village in Cornwall finds a GP doctor by doing a viral video:

https://tinyurl.com/45zxx4z4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 06:27 AM (r5LH6)

106 So she was making beef jerky or biltong the traditional way using the sun.
Posted by: Ciampino - i souport publik edekasion ... at October 01, 2023 06:23 AM (qfLjt)
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She was very old school. We never saw her with at least one of the grandkids strapped to her back. We would see her come back from the market at advanced age carrying a kid and a heavy bag in each hand. She probably benched 250.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:27 AM (RIvkX)

107 Oh geez, the Chicago Bears are playing the Denver Broncos.

Based on last weeks numbers I'm predicting the scores to be in the negatives. Posted by: Bruce

After the Denver disaster last week, I decided it was time to become a fan. I went out and bought a Bronco t-shirt. Then I discovered the Broncos were playing Chicago. Now I'm conflicted because I want the Broncos lose so I can witness an entire state commit mass suicide.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:28 AM (W028D)

108 whining up some blueberry pancakes.

Okay?
Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:26 AM (vd8XM)
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I have no idea how to make blueberry pancakes. Other than add blueberries to pancakes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:29 AM (RIvkX)

109 I have no idea how to make blueberry pancakes. Other than add blueberries to pancakes.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Put the blueberries into the batter after you put the batter into the cooking pan.

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:30 AM (vd8XM)

110 Coffee is on, it will be some tiime.

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 06:31 AM (fwDg9)

111 These 'psychologists' have been left in their own personal Skinner box of masturbation and pron too long?
...
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2023 06:27 AM (gVV9B)
===

I don't think this kind of corruption is limited to psychology. It is pervasive throughout the culture and our institutions.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:31 AM (RIvkX)

112 Please say a prayer for me for strength and endurance , if you would be so kind. I have two campaign events and church today and I'm really tired. People sometimes find it hard to believe I'm an introvert, but I am. I can function as an extrovert and I do enjoy meeting lots of people but then when I get home I am really wiped out .

So I'm probably taking tomorrow off from posting.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 06:31 AM (r5LH6)

113 Okay!

Off to start the day. Have a great one all!

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:31 AM (vd8XM)

114 Put the blueberries into the batter after you put the batter into the cooking pan.
Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:30 AM (vd8XM)
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I'm with you so far...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

115 I can function as an extrovert and I do enjoy meeting lots of people but then when I get home I am really wiped out .

So I'm probably taking tomorrow off from posting.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Prayers up Fen...

Posted by: Bruce at October 01, 2023 06:32 AM (vd8XM)

116
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 01, 2023 06:33 AM (ENBF0)

117 Okay Fen !

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 06:33 AM (T4tVD)

118 I don't need to whine much. If she sees me get the flour and a bowl...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:34 AM (RIvkX)

119 Archive.org’s film collections offer a surprising assortment of older copyrighted movies for .zip download. the rules do not apply to hard left organizations.

Emperor of the North.mp4 09-Jan-2020 00:29 849.4M

Posted by: 13times at October 01, 2023 06:34 AM (+Pqmf)

120 Bruce, the last I heard the Broncos are favored by two and a half points over the Bears.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at October 01, 2023 06:35 AM (4ezYQ)

121 I'm skipping blueberry pancakes today. That's incorrect. I skip blueberry pancakes every day. Not because I don't like them. It's just it's too ambitious in the morning to make them.

Speaking of New Mexican food. I made my first batch of Chile Colarado from scratch about a week ago and it came out quite good. The key thing I learned is how to work with dried chilies and the various varieties of them that are commonly used. Exhausted by that endeavor I went back to my old standby and made a batch of green chili chicken stew which I have perfected over the last 5 years. Next week I'm going after making posole from scratch. I will report back after it is done with graphs and PowerPoints explaining how it came out.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:36 AM (W028D)

122 Very brave for an introvert to step forward that way.

I can't wait for Fenelon to consolidate power and crush the opposition.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:37 AM (RIvkX)

123 Thinking back on all of this cancel culture, blm, trans, oh woe is me I'm oppressed crap I remembered up twinkles. Remember how ridiculous we thought people were that couldn't handle clapping. How far we have fallen since.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 01, 2023 06:37 AM (2NHgQ)

124 LiS that all sounds great. Did you use hominy for your posole?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:38 AM (RIvkX)

125 I am tired and worn out with being tired and worn out.

Posted by: Eromero at October 01, 2023 06:42 AM (KiuiP)

126 The current diagnosis and treatment for PTSD is a giant step backward.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 06:42 AM (slgIg)

127 Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 06:37 AM (RIvkX)

And receive a huge salary of $25.00 a week.😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 06:43 AM (e7eED)

128 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 06:44 AM (u82oZ)

129 LiS that all sounds great. Did you use hominy for your posole?
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I haven't yet made the posole and I haven't settled on the exact recipe yet 'm going to use for this first attempt. But yes, it will include hominy. The secret to getting a good posole is getting the right red color out of the chilies, a certain creamy thickness to the chili broth, and that perfect heat. The pork is highly dependent on proper browning and dead fresh spices which are then added to the chiles and allowed to cook down slowly for an hour and a half or so. I don't have a lot of expectations for this first batch; this is more of a process run. The good thing about where I live is the local restaurants here serve the best chili colorado and posole I have ever had anywhere so I at least know what the target is.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:46 AM (W028D)

130 U.K. Prepares to Send Boots on the Ground in Ukraine

https://t.co/ry1TZcYd3T

Posted by: Ciampino - I am logged in, therefore I am. at October 01, 2023 06:47 AM (qfLjt)

131 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

And salute the Great Seal of Kansas!

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:47 AM (W028D)

132 mornin yall. What a weird dream last night. I was a fugitive from justice, I don't know why. Must of had something to do with that episode of Bonanza I watched yesterday. Anyway, my biggest concern was what would my customers do if I was caught and put in jail. What a stupid thing to think.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 06:48 AM (vFG9F)

133 Lost In Space

Please sign up for duty at the TxMoMeet.

There will be a chicken, shrimp, and clam Paella.

The shallow dish is prepared over an open flame, and the diameter is over 8 feet. Quite the sight, and you can make it better with your hep.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 06:49 AM (u82oZ)

134 "you can make it better with your hep.
Posted by: NaCly Dog"

I am really really hoping that was a typo.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 06:50 AM (vFG9F)

135 Jimmy Carter's birthday celebration is next Saturday. I had no idea that he shared a birthday with JJ.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 06:52 AM (vFG9F)

136 U.K. Prepares to Send Boots on the Ground in Ukraine
Posted by: Ciampino

This is a major escalation even if they are only going to be "training" Ukes. One must remember that training can take place in the trenches while shooting at Russians. I fully expect Shit-Pants to be sending American troops there shortly thereafter.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:52 AM (W028D)

137 Lost In Space

But of course. Although the mountains on the seal make me smile. Mt.Sunflower is a mild bump in a pasture, but it is the highest point in the state. I've seen Alpine clubs rope up, ice axes at the ready as they walk from the parking lot to the ~~dirt pile~~ summit.

Kansas is tilted, with the high end at the Colorado border.

Ad Astra Per Aspera is the way.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 06:52 AM (u82oZ)

138 Please sign up for duty at the TxMoMeet.

There will be a chicken, shrimp, and clam Paella.

The shallow dish is prepared over an open flame, and the diameter is over 8 feet. Quite the sight, and you can make it better with your hep.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

I was strongly considering going this year for the first time and then I had a major dental bill show up and my son's car blew up 3 weeks before he started doing his student teaching. Next year.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:54 AM (W028D)

139 Oh. Carter's birthday is today. 99 years young.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 06:54 AM (vFG9F)

140 fd

Thank you. My fingers , brain, and keyboard coordination can use some work this morning.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 06:55 AM (u82oZ)

141 Anime review time.

The new season has kicked off. First was Frieren now we have on Crunchyroll Shangri-La Frontier.

The main character is a high school dude. His hobby is to play trash VR games, the games with bugs that players dump on. We are introduced to him as he defeats this Demon Lord, the blond beautiful female Elf companion starts to praise him and he drives a foot into her face in slow motion.

So now his game dealer, I so want to call her a drug dealer because he is addicted to gaming, talks him into playing a 'god-tier' game. So the episode ends with him logging into Shangri-La Frontier and starting to enjoy playing a well crafted game.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2023 06:55 AM (gVV9B)

142 Happy Sunday

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 06:56 AM (BRHaw)

143 Kansas is tilted, with the high end at the Colorado border.
Posted by: NaCly Dog.

New Mexico is tilted on two different axes. The first is up by the Colorado border where the elevation is close to 8000 ft. And then down to where I am in Las Cruces which is at about 4000 ft. The other tilt is towards California with an incline so steep I think we should rename the state New California.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:58 AM (W028D)

144 "3,700-year-old Babylonian stone tablet gets translated, changes history"

Who knew they had Ovaltine back then?

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 06:58 AM (vFG9F)

145 Lost In Space

What will Putin do to that?

This is beyond stupid. This is a major blunder.

The good news is the highly professional British Army is quite small.

Will Putin trade a working nuclear warhead to North Korea for 30,000 of their special forces (the only outfit in NK with any combat ability).

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 06:58 AM (u82oZ)

146 Lawyer for Philly looter 'Meatball' slams 'all-out assault' on 'vibrant' 21-year-old as RACIST - and claims she livestreamed crime-spree merely to capture 'raw reality of public outrage'

vibrant ah

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 06:59 AM (BRHaw)

147 NHS will ban anaesthetic gas in attempt to meet net zero targets despite top scientist claiming the move is 'not supported by climate science'
https://mol.im/a/12579777

Posted by: Ciampino - I am logged in, therefore I am... at October 01, 2023 06:59 AM (qfLjt)

148 Lost In Space

I've spent some time in the Sangre De Christo range, but mostly in Colorado and specifically in the Crestone Peak area.

ISTR they end in New Mexico.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 07:00 AM (u82oZ)

149 ISTR they end in New Mexico.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 07:00 AM (u82oZ)

(Jump to top of page

New Mexicans view this as they begin in Santa Fe.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 07:03 AM (W028D)

150 Ciampino - I am logged in, therefore I am...

I want all those policy holders to get surgery without proven to work well anesthetic gases.

Writhe in pain, you idiots. Most are fluorocarbons as well, you hosers. They are useful.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 07:03 AM (u82oZ)

151 Well, we can discuss stupid, point out stupid, but can't seem to get stupid out of zealot cult of deranged climate change worshippers.

Until ... OPSEC.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 07:05 AM (u82oZ)

152 Coffee's on finally. I have no idea why I waited this long. I guess it's because I like to pretend I haven't been up all night. Again.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 07:06 AM (W028D)

153 Great. Now Twitter's flaking out.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:06 AM (tLzZN)

154 Have a great day, everyone.

May zephyrs, rainbow, and happy bouncing goats fill your day with beauty.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 01, 2023 07:06 AM (u82oZ)

155 I'm so relieved that Congress got their shit together and the country is set for another 45 days. It well demonstrates the competency and far reaching vision of those people entrusted with the finances of our great nation.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 07:09 AM (vFG9F)

156 Boker Tov Patriots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2023 07:16 AM (pmmLi)

157 I met an interesting client yesterday, a lively and well-heeled elderly woman from New York. After discussing our business, the conversation opened up a bit, and she mentioned that she was friends with Eric Trump and the Trump family. She said, "I love Donald Trump," as simple as that. She said Eric had told her on the eve of 2016 election that the family believed they would lose to Hillary. They weren't depressed, just prepared.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 01, 2023 07:17 AM (GFoyL)

158 This old laptop still keeps going for some reason.
Alienware was a good investment.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:18 AM (E7/SC)

159 I may never get out of here.
As far as prisons go it's a fairly nice one I suppose.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:18 AM (E7/SC)

160 DID YOU HEAR ABOUT TAYLOR SWIFT????

Posted by: the Insipid News Media at October 01, 2023 07:19 AM (vFG9F)

161 This thing could fail @ any time & Noah Bawdy's coming to my rescue.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:19 AM (E7/SC)

162 Been a pleasure knowing you Morons & Moronettes.
Never know when this thing boot for the last time.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:19 AM (E7/SC)

163 Maybe there's an Ace in the hole or something.
Just not seeing a way out of this.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:19 AM (E7/SC)

164 I keep getting locked out of my accounts.
2 think I lived in Hawaii, worked for HMSA, VHP. All that.
Now I sleep in a garage by the motorway.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:20 AM (E7/SC)

165 Your friend,
Noah Bawdy.
AKA
Charles H. Swartz

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:20 AM (E7/SC)

166 ha fucking haha

@ProjectLincoln
·
Follow
Joe Biden is the only 2024 candidate who will bring decency and a profound respect for democracy to the White House. To vote otherwise is a dangerous mistake.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 07:20 AM (BRHaw)

167
There is a big difference between hard sciences, like physics, and the "soft" ones like psychology. Economics is also a soft one.

The hard sciences deal with objective, measurable phenomenon. They are getting corrupted more and more by ideology, however.

The trouble is the soft sciences like to pretend they are hard. That they are real science, when they are nothing but subjective crap dealing with human feelings and emotions, which ain't objective.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 07:20 AM (Mzdiz)

168 A thousand names, some of which I don't even remember.
If Annie Bawdy get board...
Here's my contact info IRL.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:20 AM (E7/SC)

169 Charles H. Swartz
2356 Peninsula Drive. Shell Knob MO 65747
(80

202-6030
charles.h.swartz@gmail.com
Aloha & thanks for the memories.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 01, 2023 07:20 AM (E7/SC)

170 DID YOU HEAR ABOUT TAYLOR SWIFT????
Posted by: the Insipid News Media

My cousin who lives in Minneapolis said ticket prices to this Sunday's game with Kansas City are going off the charts because Taylor Swift might be there.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 07:21 AM (W028D)

171 First day of retirement, ngu?

Posted by: Infidel at October 01, 2023 07:21 AM (CEX6j)

172 Forgot had a phone update last night, wonder what changed for the worse

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 07:21 AM (fwDg9)

173 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at October 01, 2023 07:22 AM (NBVIP)

174 g'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 01, 2023 07:22 AM (YNbPJ)

175 Joe Biden is the only 2024 candidate who will bring decency and a profound respect for democracy to the White House. To vote otherwise is a dangerous mistake.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 07:20 AM (BRHaw)
===
Steve Schmidt was on Patrick Bet David.

He was a real douchebag.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 07:25 AM (RIvkX)

176 "Joe Biden is the only 2024 candidate who will bring decency and a profound respect for democracy to the White House. To vote otherwise is a dangerous mistake."

Also, Says Claus and the Easter Bunny are happily married and living on Uranus.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 07:27 AM (vFG9F)

177 Cool out but clear, nice few days coming

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 07:28 AM (fwDg9)

178 Santa not Says. The big guy can call himself whatever he wants though, who am I to judge his culture.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 07:28 AM (vFG9F)

179 NGU, I hope you got paid on Friday before they shut down the gov. Yo.

Posted by: Eromero at October 01, 2023 07:29 AM (KiuiP)

180 My cousin who lives in Minneapolis said ticket prices to this Sunday's game with Kansas City are going off the charts because Taylor Swift might be there.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 07:21 AM (W028D)

Pathetic.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 01, 2023 07:30 AM (GFoyL)

181 Happy October

silly house decoration season has begun

Posted by: DB - at October 01, 2023 07:34 AM (geLO8)

182 >My cousin who lives in Minneapolis said ticket prices to this Sunday's game with Kansas City are going off the charts because Taylor Swift might be there.

it gets better
saw a news blurb this morning that Travis and TayTay might wear COUPLES' COSTUMES for Hallowe'en

the whole world's watching

Posted by: DB - at October 01, 2023 07:36 AM (geLO8)

183 Joe Biden is the only 2024 candidate who will bring decency and a profound respect for democracy to the White House. To vote otherwise is a dangerous mistake.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 07:20 AM (BRHaw)

"Will bring"? He's not there already?

Posted by: Vanya at October 01, 2023 07:37 AM (v27SO)

184 Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at October 01, 2023 07:22 AM (NBVIP)

Awaiting customers.

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 07:37 AM (T4tVD)

185 We have this lunatic woman in Las Cruces who after driving her donut shop into the ground decided she was going to be a politician. Thus began her serial campaigns to become mayor because the mayor apparently has superpowers to change the laws to suit her grievances. I have spoken with her on a couple of occasions at candidate forums and she's literally the stupidest at least qualified person to run for elected office. When that didn't work out after a couple tries. She decided she was going to run to be the county assessor even though she has never conducted a property assessment, managed the staff of over 100 people, or a budget that runs into the millions. I never thought dhe had a chance to win and then the two other competitors dropped out because of personal scandals and she became the default choice and won. Her promise between the election and her taking office is she was going to take a public administration correspondence course. 2 years later the current mayor has decided to retire and she is once again running for mayor. I am dying to go to a candidate forum and ask her some hard questions publicly.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 07:37 AM (W028D)

186 Hiya Cap'n (Emeritus) !

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 07:38 AM (T4tVD)

187
Joe Biden is the only 2024 candidate who will bring decency and a profound respect for democracy to the White House. To vote otherwise is a dangerous mistake.

Like I asked earlier, name one positive thing that Biden has accomplished. There is none. So they make up bullshit like this.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2023 07:40 AM (enJYY)

188 Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 07:37 AM (W028D)

Needs that Emperor Palpatine meme: "I love democracy."

Posted by: Vanya at October 01, 2023 07:40 AM (v27SO)

189 Kristie Kreme

“Look, the questions were never asked Mika. I’m not going to sit up here and be defense counsel for the other six candidates,” he snapped. “Because I did my job last night. I was the only one who went directly after Donald Trump and all the issues I just spoke about.”

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 07:41 AM (BRHaw)

190
Who cares if gasoline is $4.00 a gallon? We have respect for democracy. That gets you 100 miles per gallon.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2023 07:43 AM (enJYY)

191 First day of retirement, ngu?
Posted by: Infidel at October 01, 2023 07:21 AM (CEX6j)

Well no, I have to roll back to the Reservers for the next 21 days, which I have done after the 4 year Active Duty Recall. So in 21 days I am officially "Retired".

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2023 07:44 AM (pmmLi)

192 ...I have spoken with her on a couple of occasions at candidate forums and she's literally the stupidest at least qualified person to run for elected office...
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Being stupid is the qualification.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 07:45 AM (RIvkX)

193 I have never run a donut shop,but the ideal sounds appealing. The guy running against is the owner of a bakery. I am running because someone asked me to run, not because I thought of it. I plan to never run for office again, unless I can run for Senator and collect some gold bars. J/K.

I expect one of the questions at the forum will be "How will your faith affect your decisions?" Or something along the lines of/ but said in a more politically correct way- "Do you support a theocracy?" I'm going to gather up my little church in a neighboring town and storm out Twp Committee and declare myself high priestess. Uhh huh? / sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 07:45 AM (Nbn6b)

194 First day of retirement, ngu?
Posted by: Infidel at October 01, 2023 07:21 AM (CEX6j)

Well no, I have to roll back to the Reservers for the next 21 days, which I have done after the 4 year Active Duty Recall. So in 21 days I am officially "Retired".
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2023 07:44 AM (pmmLi)

Best of Luck in ALL of your endeavors.

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 07:47 AM (T4tVD)

195
When asked why he was looting the liquor store in Philadelphia he replied, "To support Joe Biden, who has brought decency and a profound respect for democracy to the White House."

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2023 07:49 AM (enJYY)

196 I think Noah might be off his meds.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 07:49 AM (slgIg)

197 Best of Luck in ALL of your endeavors.
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 07:47 AM (T4tVD)

Thanks. My major endeavor is to build my private practice back up, so I can sell it for max profit. And to have to have some good old American Fun along the way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2023 07:50 AM (pmmLi)

198 Loose talk going around about Newsom appointing Megyn Markle to Feinstein's Senate seat. Newsom is stupid enough to do it but I doubt it will happen. Also, isn't there something about accepting royal titles, not the honorary knighthoods, that would prohibit her from holding office?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 01, 2023 07:52 AM (0EOe9)

199 I find it completely bizarre that the Democrats have this fetish that compels them to appoint a black woman to any open office.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 07:55 AM (W028D)

200 The writer makes a good case stating that faled data doesn't matter, because the non-fake data doesn't matter either, because the entire field of psychology is basically a huge scam.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2023 07:55 AM (S6gqv)

201 Also, isn't there something about accepting royal titles, not the honorary knighthoods, that would prohibit her from holding office?
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Lol. As if that would apply to democrats.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 07:56 AM (slgIg)

202
Lawyer for Philly looter 'Meatball' slams 'all-out assault' on 'vibrant' 21-year-old as RACIST - and claims she livestreamed crime-spree merely to capture 'raw reality of public outrage'

vibrant ah

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 06:59 AM

She didn't get the best defense attorney in Philly, last name of Tinari. I've followed him for decades because he came from my little town, but mainly because he had a hot sister in the grade above me. Any mention of him in the news and I flash back to her at a dance one night in a sexy dress. Built like a brick (shut you mouth).

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2023 07:58 AM (enJYY)

203 201 Yeah, I forgot about the "Democrats can do anything they want and besides that she's black" clause.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 01, 2023 07:58 AM (0EOe9)

204 I find it completely bizarre that the Democrats have this fetish that compels them to appoint a black woman to any open office.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 07:55 AM (W028D)

Not to mention totally racist and probably illegal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2023 07:59 AM (pmmLi)

205 I find it completely bizarre that the Democrats have this fetish that compels them to appoint a black woman to any open office.

Not really. Using CRT/DEI calculus, there is a two-fer on the victim totem pole.

They really scored well on Karine Jean-Pierre, in fact, a four-fer: black, female, lesbian and retard.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 01, 2023 07:59 AM (p8A+W)

206 Also, isn't there something about accepting royal titles, not the honorary knighthoods, that would prohibit her from holding office?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 01, 2023 07:52 AM (0EOe9)

Yes, but... Clown world, so who knows.

Posted by: Vanya at October 01, 2023 08:01 AM (v27SO)

207 200 The writer makes a good case stating that faled data doesn't matter, because the non-fake data doesn't matter either, because the entire field of psychology is basically a huge scam.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2023 07:55 AM (S6gqv)

Peterson talks about this all the time and I think that is the main reason the libs go after him.
When he uses real data (SAT, IQ, etc) to decide how to treat, teach, train, and educate he is called a racist.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 08:01 AM (BRHaw)

208 205 Five fer. Black female lesbian retard midget.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 01, 2023 08:01 AM (0EOe9)

209 Not to mention totally racist and probably illegal

We are living post-Constitution in a authoritarian police state where laws are whatever those in power decide for a particular person on a particular day.

Its only illegal if they deem you unworthy.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 01, 2023 08:03 AM (p8A+W)

210 It would be so perfect for CA to have Markle. Waters would be another great choice for them.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 08:09 AM (slgIg)

211 @199

>>I find it completely bizarre that the Democrats have this fetish that compels them to appoint a black woman to any open office.

Not really bizarre, there is perhaps no more loyal servant to their democrat masters than black women.

They know they can put a black female apparatchik in a position of power and authority and they a reliable foot soldier for the cause.

Even more so than CEWW.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2023 08:10 AM (XV/Pl)

212
They're going to pick someone young so they can be a thorn in the side of the Senate for decades.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2023 08:11 AM (enJYY)

213 210 Think of the committees Markle could chair. Put her on one with lots of juicy top secret stuff and the grocery store tabloids would have the rundown on a daily basis.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 01, 2023 08:11 AM (0EOe9)

214 199 I find it completely bizarre that the Democrats have this fetish that compels them to appoint a black woman to any open office.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 07:55 AM (W028D)

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You do have to admit that leftist black females have excelled in every position of leadership into which they've been placed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 01, 2023 08:13 AM (Snikh)

215 It would be so perfect for CA to have Markle. Waters would be another great choice for them.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

I am leaning towards a random lunatic fentayl black woman who lives in a tent. The skill set a person like that would bring would match up perfectly with DiFi for the last 5 years.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 08:13 AM (W028D)

216 I expect one of the questions at the forum will be "How will your faith affect your decisions?"

Pray that they make that very question.

Proposed response: "Thank you for asking. Because of my faith, unlike my opponent, I'll not accept bribes, be found in a bed with someone other than my spouse, sell out for political favors, participate in child or drug trafficking, pursue anything other than just justice, rob Peter to pay Paul while collecting vigorish, cheat on taxes, employ patrons as sinecures, undermine Constitutional rights, nor favor foreigners over citizens."

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 01, 2023 08:14 AM (p8A+W)

217 Faking data. Interesting in the NYer essay to read how font types spit out from different apps led to questions about authenticity.

Gosh, that tracks with Dan Rather’s faked tang documents.

Mind. Your. Fonts.
Posted by: 13times

I suggested to Junior-ette that she use the 'nuclear option' to wash her term papers for kollege. She asked why. I responded, do you share a usb drive with any students, say pass around the teacher's drive to download or upload something instead of using, oh, say, the freaking internet the way it's supposed to be used? Slow blink, the affirmative response.

That's why you should copy your document, paste it into notepad, close your document and MS award, the open a new document using a new template, copy all from notepad, paste it into your new word file. Save and close.

Washes away all of the other people's BS font, setting and other crap that ms word sticks and appends into you existing files. Starting g fresh grom a blank template document in Word prevents it from creeping back in.

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 01, 2023 08:14 AM (3CCua)

218 Good morning! Happy Sunday! Oh and it's the first of October. Damn.. time is flying.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 01, 2023 08:14 AM (iF0sF)

219 Pottersville > Betteridge Falls

More coffee…

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 01, 2023 08:15 AM (R/m4+)

220 I'd rather play grab ass with a horny orangutan, than debug/unscrew MS Word normal.doc templates. Just delete them from your %appdata% file structure and go with new defaults.

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 01, 2023 08:17 AM (3CCua)

221 Good morning! Happy Sunday! Oh and it's the first of October. Damn.. time is flying.

I love the beginning of the new month. I have one of those Garmin sport watches and they feature Gamercizing - where points are awarded for activities conducive for GAINZZZ.

Each month a whole new slew of "Challenges" are available such as bicycling/running/walking/swimming time/distance in a single event of over a period of days.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 01, 2023 08:18 AM (p8A+W)

222 Good morning Hordelings! Tis the month of the TX MoMe. LFG!!!

Posted by: Doof at October 01, 2023 08:19 AM (BiuMW)

223 Hiya Jewells !

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 08:20 AM (T4tVD)

224 19 hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY?
Posted by: Ciampino - Honk if you love peace and quiet... at October 01, 2023 04:31 AM (qfLjt)

NO.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at October 01, 2023 08:21 AM (PiwSw)

225 No EMT today, I suppose.

Hey Pixy, it would probably be a good idea to write a script that would auto-generate an EMT @ say 7:00am.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2023 08:22 AM (XV/Pl)

226 Also, isn't there something about accepting royal titles, not the honorary knighthoods, that would prohibit her from holding office?

Didn't stop the Uniparty from putting an illegal alien in as the POTUS figurehead in 2008-2016.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 01, 2023 08:23 AM (p8A+W)

227 Ugh. October. Not a fan of the 'bers, although they are better than the 'arys.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 01, 2023 08:24 AM (45fpk)

228
The word processor reached maturity around, oh, Word 97, 20 years + ago. All featuritis since then has been crap.

I use Office 2010. And that's way too much.

Most of the time, a decent text editor like Notepad++ is all I need.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:24 AM (Mzdiz)

229
Simple text files, ASCII, no Unicode shit. That's all I need.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:24 AM (Mzdiz)

230 Hey Pixy, it would probably be a good idea to write a script that would auto-generate an EMT @ say 7:00am.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Apply to be a cob. Use me as a reference.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 08:25 AM (slgIg)

231 Word is a PITA, but Project is worse.

Posted by: Vanya at October 01, 2023 08:25 AM (v27SO)

232 Ugh. October. Not a fan of the 'bers, although they are better than the 'arys.
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 01, 2023 08:24 AM (45fpk)
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Back at ya' babe.

Posted by: Pumpkin Spice at October 01, 2023 08:25 AM (RIvkX)

233 This chair, this ashtray, and this paddle ball game. That's all I need.

Posted by: Navin Johnson at October 01, 2023 08:26 AM (Snikh)

234 Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 08:26 AM (T4tVD)

235 Hiya JT!

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 01, 2023 08:26 AM (45fpk)

236 Hey Pixy, it would probably be a good idea to write a script that would auto-generate an EMT @ say 7:00am.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Apply to be a cob. Use me as a reference.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 08:25 AM (slgIg)
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Use us as a reference

Posted by: Yoko and Mary Cloggenstein at October 01, 2023 08:27 AM (RIvkX)

237 Sometimes rigorous masturbation is prerequisite of the book thread. Hence the funny pants. Carry on!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2023 08:27 AM (KVGVf)

238 You could always use google docs, where they can lock you out if you write something the tranny mafia does not like, even if it is one of your own personal private documents.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 08:28 AM (slgIg)

239 Word is a PITA, but Project is worse.
Posted by: Vanya at October 01, 2023 08:25 AM (v27SO)
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*Access has entered the chat*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:28 AM (RIvkX)

240
Oh boy, I'm a fossil. All text files I create here are technically UTF-8, I see. I don't know what that really means. Other than it's "close to ASCII" and looks like it unless something else happens.

Now, ANSI vs ASCII. Geez, so much has changed from when I actually knew this shit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:29 AM (Mzdiz)

241 @230

>>Apply to be a cob. Use me as a reference.

It could be auto-generated and a random Frank Zappa video could be posted as the intro video.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2023 08:29 AM (XV/Pl)

242 The sunday morning Yoko thread.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 08:30 AM (slgIg)

243
Okay, what is this business about some idiot Democrat pulling a fire alarm in the capitol to stop a vote?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:30 AM (Mzdiz)

244 *Access has entered the chat*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:28 AM (RIvkX)

I don't really have any hands on with that. But project is shit. "Yes, I know you put four days duration, but unfortunately for you you also set the calendar to 24 hour operations. As it turns out, I'm completely retarded and unable to count day durations in anything but 8 hour increments so your four day duration shows on the schedule as 32 hours. Thank you, come again."

Posted by: Vanya at October 01, 2023 08:32 AM (v27SO)

245 The word processor reached maturity around, oh, Word 97, 20 years + ago. All featuritis since then has been crap.

I use Office 2010. And that's way too much.

Most of the time, a decent text editor like Notepad++ is all I need.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:24 AM (Mzdiz)

Can I interest you in Word Perfect? A mere 35 5.25 inch floppy discs and half a day of installation!

Posted by: Doof at October 01, 2023 08:32 AM (BiuMW)

246 The CAT morning thread.
You might get Yoko
You might get fat man on an ottoman
Buuuuuut you also might get Wii Fit Girl.
Or cake girl.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 08:32 AM (slgIg)

247 @243

>>Okay, what is this business about some idiot Democrat pulling a fire alarm in the capitol to stop a vote?

You can pretty much do anything and get away with it if there are no consequences.

I mean, I would file a police report and file ethics charges so fast his head would spin, I'm guessing KMac is not going to do that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2023 08:32 AM (XV/Pl)

248 It could be auto-generated and a random Frank Zappa video could be posted as the intro video.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Nah. The North Korean news lady or a Nork girl band.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 08:32 AM (W028D)

249 Okay, what is this business about some idiot Democrat pulling a fire alarm in the capitol to stop a vote?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:30 AM (Mzdiz)
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Some obstruction of congressional proceedings is insurrection and some isn't.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:34 AM (RIvkX)

250 Some obstruction of congressional proceedings is insurrection and some isn't.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:34 AM (RIvkX)

It wasn't obstruction-obstruction.

Posted by: Whoopi at October 01, 2023 08:35 AM (v27SO)

251 Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 01, 2023 08:14 AM

LOL

I've met my opponent. He's a nice guy and he got asked, I think, because he's an ethnic minority. I didn't come up with that. A person of a different ethnic minority said it. Dems support diversity ad long ad every of is part of the same Democrat party. He said he doesn't really belong in their party, but he's still running as a D.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 08:35 AM (lSUDZ)

252 I used to wonder how the Romans, who were generally intelligent people, could believe in having their futures foretold by strange women looking at chicken entrails. Now I realize we do the same thing, although we dress it up a bit more and call it "Science!!!!" (Say it like Thomas Dolby would)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2023 08:36 AM (S6gqv)

253 See NY Post, site Jamaal Bowman- Democrat socialist from NY

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2023 08:37 AM (lSUDZ)

254 Hiya JT.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 01, 2023 08:37 AM (iF0sF)

255
Word Perfect used to be king back in the DOS days. The tale of how it fell from grace and Word became king is instructive.

I've got a shit ton of DOS and Win 3.x software stored. Even run it virtual machines from time to time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:37 AM (Mzdiz)

256 The Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival is going on in GG park and my neighborhood is infested with hippies and patchouli

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:37 AM (RIvkX)

257 Okay, what is this business about some idiot Democrat pulling a fire alarm in the capitol to stop a vote?

Here is what I think happened:

There is an emergency exit door that leads directly to the capitol from the office building.
The door has a local alarm on it, such that it sounds until the door closes again. But security still has to go check it every time it opens.
Congressmen and staffers used that door all the time as a shortcut to the capitol, who fucking cares that we make security scramble every time.
So they lock the door on a time delay. You push the panic bar, and have to stand there for 30 seconds before the door unlocks.
Dipshit Bowman thought the alarm box on the wall would override the 30 second lock.
He knew it would trigger the alarm for the entire building.
He didn't care.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 08:38 AM (slgIg)

258 The Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival is going on in GG park and my neighborhood is infested with hippies and patchouli

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:37 AM (RIvkX)

Wish I were there.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 01, 2023 08:38 AM (45fpk)

259 I hope Vivek Ramaswamy has this right index finger insured. If that thing ever gets damaged or cut off his political career is over.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 08:38 AM (W028D)

260 Word Perfect used to be king back in the DOS days. The tale of how it fell from grace and Word became king is instructive.
...
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:37 AM (Mzdiz)
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It wasn't WYSIWYG

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:39 AM (RIvkX)

261 @253

>>See NY Post, site Jamaal Bowman- Democrat socialist from NY

I see he's melanin enhanced, so pretty much you can guarantee he will see no consequences.

He'll probably go on and on about how fire alarms are institutional racism, probably get a medal of freedom ceremony out of the deal.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2023 08:39 AM (XV/Pl)

262 Everything I ever needed from a word processor, Electric Pencil would do.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 08:40 AM (vFG9F)

263 I find it completely bizarre that the Democrats have this fetish that compels them to appoint a black woman to any open office.
Posted by: Lost In Space

They (D) are more open to the fact that almost no senior positions actually require depth of knowledge as those at the working level. For example, Federal DOT probably has a thousand plus licensed engineers on staff which requires years of education, training, and exams to get to. It can be "led" by a person with 'pole smoking' as their skill set. Then we have the VP.
Ds openly admit that the highest positions can be filled with gibbering idiots (Fetterman, Biden), as long as the slaves know what they are doing who cares if the generals are inept...

So, for pure political points it does not matter who gets stuffed into leadership slots.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 01, 2023 08:40 AM (ga8qR)

264 No, Jamaal says its all good because he didn't know that pulling the fire alarm would set off the fire alarm. Since everyone in his caucus is far too stupid to understand the consequences of their own actions, it's a difficult claim to disprove.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2023 08:40 AM (S6gqv)

265 Can I interest you in Word Perfect? A mere 35 5.25 inch floppy discs and half a day of installation!
Posted by: Doof at October 01, 2023 08:32 AM (BiuMW)
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I once knew a physics professor that insisted WordPerfect was the only program that made perfect circles for his lecture notes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 01, 2023 08:40 AM (BpYfr)

266 Wish I were there.
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 01, 2023 08:38 AM (45fpk)
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Big overlap between the Dead crowd and the bluegrass crowd.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:41 AM (RIvkX)

267 Baseball playoffs start on Tuesday, so there's that. Cubbies came up short, again, and missed a Wild Card spot.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 01, 2023 08:41 AM (45fpk)

268 255
Word Perfect used to be king back in the DOS days. The tale of how it fell from grace and Word became king is instructive.

Microsoft bundled word with widows and made it the default, and made their .doc format proprietary.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 01, 2023 08:41 AM (slgIg)

269 "You push the panic bar, and have to stand there for 30 seconds before the door unlocks."

Huh. The panic bar actually induces panic.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 08:42 AM (vFG9F)

270 U.S. is getting wiped at the Ryder Cup. I have to admit, the Europeans play entertaining golf.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 01, 2023 08:42 AM (45fpk)

271 Some obstruction of congressional proceedings is insurrection and some isn't.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:34 AM (RIvkX)
++++
At least he wasn't parading. We all know how insurrectiony parading is.
Pulling fire alarms is A-OK.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at October 01, 2023 08:42 AM (dr4Q1)

272 Electric Pencil, released in December 1976 by Michael Shrayer, was the first word processor for home computers.

Electric Pencil required 8K of memory and an Intel 8080 or Zilog Z80 processor.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 08:44 AM (vFG9F)

273 In the you can't make this ship up department my temporary oncologist is now also leaving. I got the letter a few days ago.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 01, 2023 08:44 AM (iF0sF)

274 Okay, what is this business about some idiot Democrat pulling a fire alarm in the capitol to stop a vote?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:30 AM (Mzdiz)

I remember that scene in “Birth Of A Nation”.

The reps were all sitting around in the Carolina House picking their toes, eating chicken, drinking booze and pulling the fire alarm.

More coffee…

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 01, 2023 08:44 AM (R/m4+)

275 It is so clear this morning both Jupiter and Venus are brightly visible.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:44 AM (RIvkX)

276 I don't think you can even have a Word document as small as 8k.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 08:45 AM (vFG9F)

277 my temporary oncologist is now also leaving.

I guess he took this 'temporary' thing pretty seriously. I hope the replacement treats you right, jewells.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 01, 2023 08:45 AM (45fpk)

278 he House of Representatives approved ... a stopgap measure to keep the federal government funded for another 45 days...

The House voted 335-91 to pass the resolution, meeting the two-thirds threshold required, with 90 Republicans and one Democrat, Illinois Rep. Mike Quigley, opposed to the measure, arguing it lacked funding for Ukraine.

Translation: 90 Republicans need to be primaried in 2024.

These traitors were totally willing to shut-down the Federal Government if Ukraine wasn't given billions of dollars to launder.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 01, 2023 08:46 AM (p8A+W)

279 Word Perfect used to be king back in the DOS days. The tale of how it fell from grace and Word became king is instructive.

Microsoft bundled word with widows and made it the default, and made their .doc format proprietary.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Chris Peters was the software whiz who jump started Word onto the path to world dominance. After Microsoft stock blew up, he retired and tried to become a professional bowler. When that failed he bought the league IIRC. He and his wife live in SoCal and spend money on Democrats these days.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 08:47 AM (W028D)

280 Jebus. Next one of you fossils will be touting the magnificence of Lotus 1-2-3.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2023 08:47 AM (KVGVf)

281 Grammie I only saw the temp once. She was okay but nothing like my old one.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 01, 2023 08:48 AM (iF0sF)

282 Congress proved that there were adults in the room. Corrupt, feckless, and brain dead adults to be sure, but adults none the less.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2023 08:48 AM (vFG9F)

283 I guess he took this 'temporary' thing pretty seriously. I hope the replacement treats you right, jewells.
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 01, 2023 08:45 AM (45fpk)

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 08:48 AM (T4tVD)

284 Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY) ripped down two signs warning a second floor door in the Cannon House Office Building was for emergency use only before pulling the fire alarm and running out through a different door on a different floor

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 08:48 AM (BRHaw)

285 Betteridge Falls: How overly-convenient Obama-era psychological research continues to unravel, to the point that it endangers the entire field. (New Yorker)

Perhaps it's just me - is this a bad thing?

Good morning everyone.

Outdoor Mass this morning on the Village Square. Monster security concerns with way too many access points.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2023 08:49 AM (IaTa3)

286 >>It is so clear this morning both Jupiter and Venus are brightly visible.

Venus is so bright, you gotta wear shades. It's past peak Morning Apparition brightness, now, but still spectacular.

A couple days ago, Venus was still visible well after sunrise. A treeline blocking the glare from Sol helped. Once Sol is visible in the sky, that just kills everything.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:49 AM (Mzdiz)

287 "Next one of you fossils will be touting the magnificence of Lotus 1-2-3.
Posted by: Dr. Bone "

Pffft

Posted by: CalcStar at October 01, 2023 08:49 AM (vFG9F)

288 In the you can't make this ship up department my temporary oncologist is now also leaving. I got the letter a few days ago.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 01, 2023 08:44 AM (iF0sF
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There's a scene from All in the Family where Archie says to Gloria, "Let's hear it for the medical profession Little Girl!" then they both blow a raspberry and make a toilet-flushing gesture.

Good times.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:49 AM (RIvkX)

289 @278

>>These traitors were totally willing to shut-down the Federal Government if Ukraine wasn't given billions of dollars to launder.

Very little of the actual money get to Ukraine soil proper.

Many beaks dip their corrupt snouts into that money trough before a dime is put directly into Zelensky's pockets.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2023 08:50 AM (XV/Pl)

290 There’s currently a shortage of woodland Marine pattern (or MARPAT) uniforms, or “cammies” as Gen. Smith says in the Instagram video. That’s due to a backlog in orders and production caused by the disruptions of the COVID-19 pandemic.

we lost the war on desert camo!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 01, 2023 08:50 AM (BRHaw)

291
At it's peak WordPerfect had 60% of the market for word processors. In a short time, Word rose to 50%.

Windows killed it. They had trouble getting a stable Windows version out, and that's what allowed Word to take over. Bill Gates and MS killed it, really.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:50 AM (Mzdiz)

292 2 weeks in a row well over $200 for groceries

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 08:50 AM (fwDg9)

293 287 "Next one of you fossils will be touting the magnificence of Lotus 1-2-3.
Posted by: Dr. Bone "

Pffft
Posted by: CalcStar at October 01, 2023 08:49 AM (vFG9F)

Eat my shorts.

Posted by: 5000 year-old abacus at October 01, 2023 08:52 AM (PiwSw)

294 @280

>>Jebus. Next one of you fossils will be touting the magnificence of Lotus 1-2-3.

Lotus 1-2-3 and the sound of a Dot Matrix Printer remind me of my Pops who was a CPA.

His office had stacks and stacks of form-feed paper.

I miss my dad.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2023 08:52 AM (XV/Pl)

295 The weather is here. Wish I was beautiful.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 01, 2023 08:52 AM (NBVIP)

296 TP a little well-placed paranoia never hurt anyone.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:52 AM (RIvkX)

297 Jebus. Next one of you fossils will be touting the magnificence of Lotus 1-2-3.
Posted by: Dr. Bone

It was the first piece of software I bought when I had no idea what was going on with PCs. I think the version was one 1A or something like that. To say I was in over my head is an understatement . It took me 6 months to figure it out. After that I got involved with D base.

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 08:53 AM (W028D)

298 Next one of you fossils will be touting the magnificence of Lotus 1-2-3.
Posted by: Dr. Bone "

Pffft
Posted by: CalcStar
++++
Anyone else remember using the First Choice software suite?
I thought it was pretty good for it's time.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at October 01, 2023 08:53 AM (dr4Q1)

299 I used to be a thing.

Posted by: Harvard Graphics at October 01, 2023 08:53 AM (NBVIP)

300
VisiCalc > Lotus 123

In later years I could include VisiCalc into my Clipper programs because the memory requirements were so small. Hit a hot key and instant spreadsheet for minor stuff.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2023 08:53 AM (enJYY)

301 2 weeks in a row well over $200 for groceries
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 08:50 AM (fwDg9)
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I am just not going to pay $7.49 for ketchup. I will give up ketchup.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2023 08:54 AM (RIvkX)

302
I had Quattro Pro as the spreadsheet. The Physics Dept at Clempson Cow Collidge was partial to that for some reason.

And yep, I've still got that stored.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:54 AM (Mzdiz)

303 I am just not going to pay $7.49 for ketchup. I will give up ketchup.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

And nationwide, french fries gourmands sighed.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2023 08:55 AM (IaTa3)

304
Quattro was Borland. They were all big on Borland stuff there. Turbo C and all that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:56 AM (Mzdiz)

305 Windows killed it. They had trouble getting a stable Windows version out, and that's what allowed Word to take over. Bill Gates and MS killed it, really.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 01, 2023 08:50 AM (Mzdiz)

Never trust a guy who names his company after his dick.

Posted by: Reforger at October 01, 2023 08:57 AM (kEB4M)

306 No, Jamaal says its all good because he didn't know that pulling the fire alarm would set off the fire alarm. Since everyone in his caucus is far too stupid to understand the consequences of their own actions, it's a difficult claim to disprove.

I liked the part where Jamaal claimed that McCarthy was "weaponizing" a "mistake" that Jamaal made by daring to seek out consequences (punishment) for disrupting Congress.

In defense of Jamaal (a squad member), he probably saw the Fire Alarm handle, thought it was a magical lever that would read his mind and open the door and nothing else.

These people specialize in magical thinking, this is on brand.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 01, 2023 08:57 AM (p8A+W)

307 2 weeks in a row well over $200 for groceries
Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2023 08:50 AM (fwDg9)

Thanks brandon !

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 08:58 AM (T4tVD)

308 I am just not going to pay $7.49 for ketchup. I will give up ketchup.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

They're bringing it from China by rowboat.

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2023 08:59 AM (T4tVD)

309 NOOD

Illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread is up
(Don't forget, pants are a requirement)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 01, 2023 09:01 AM (qPw5n)

310 Next week I'm going after making posole from scratch. I will report back after it is done with graphs and PowerPoints explaining how it came out.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 06:36 AM (W028D)

Using the original "long pig" recipe?

Posted by: Old Toby at October 01, 2023 09:04 AM (dVqNn)

311 *Opens up the Walmart app on the phone*

Great Value ketchup, in store, 32 oz. = $1.94.

John Effin Kerry's wife's brand, in store, 32 oz. = $4.76.

Posted by: Nobody asked me, but at October 01, 2023 09:04 AM (NBVIP)

312 In other news to Biden administration is trying to ban conventional gas furnaces and replace them with gas furnaces whose efficiency standards are unicorn level. I'm pretty sure nobody asked for this.
Posted by: Lost In Space at October 01, 2023 05:37 AM

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That's a bit of an exaggeration. The "unicorn level" gas furnaces (96%+ efficient condensing models) have been readily available for many years. I'm on my second one. But they don't make economic sense in many situations/climates and cost more to install. Not that the government cares about such things.

Posted by: Bigsmith at October 01, 2023 09:18 AM (rDKMG)

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