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The Morning Report — 9/28/23

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Good morning, kids. If you thought that Donald Trump made a big mistake by not attending the first debate, you might want to rethink that after last night's complete shit-show in Simi Valley, or in this case the "See me!!!" valley. Aside from the fact that with the exception of Ron DeSantis every person on that stage is either a fraud RINO stooge or a dud or some combination of both (Ramaswamy and Bugrum seem decent enough but they're sinking), you had to know that this would be a fiasco when they chose this Ilia Calderón to be the moderator.

Bad enough that she's a filthy, anti-American lying shit-whore. But that she opened a national American broadcast in Spanish, intended primarily for an American audience in a nation whose unofficial official language is supposed to be English, and that one of the top issues and existential threats in and facing said nation is a completely erased border where millions of third world peasants primarily but not exclusively from south of that border have come and continue to invade us, is just off-the-charts chutzpocrisy.

Has the Republican National Committee learned nothing from the likes of George Stephanopoulos, Martha Raddatz and Candy Crowley? Quite obviously, not. Despite mendacious, orbiting toxic gas-giant Chris Crisco naming him Donald "Duck" (get it?!), Trump ducking these back to back fiascos was the smart move. That said, they would perhaps not have been the fiascos they were if Trump had backed Harmeet Dhillon instead of Ronna Romney McDaniel to be chairman of the RNC. You just have to shake your head at that.

So long as we're talking the yin-yang Jungian duality of Trump (reminds me, whatever happened to "unity candidate" Andrew "Out-the-Ying" Yang?), on the plus side, he hasn't lost his innate ability to turn a phrase and turn it into a deadly weapon:

“For decades, you’ve watched rotten and crooked politicians like Biden treat American jobs as disposable and American workers as expendable,” Trump said. “They sat back and got rich by taking bribes and letting other countries rape and pillage our jobs and our wealth.”

“Joe Biden claims to be the most pro-union president in history. Nonsense. His entire career has been an act of economic treason and union destruction,” Trump continued. “He’s destroyed unions, shipping millions of American jobs overseas while personally taking money from foreign nations, hand over fist. Look at the money he got from China.”

Trump made a point to call out Biden’s record of backing free trade deals, including those that helped send millions of Americans’ jobs overseas:

He backed NAFTA, he backed China’s entering the World Trade Organization, he backed the horrendous Trans-Pacific Partnership which would have destroyed the American auto industry had I not stopped it … Biden also backed a gentleman by the name of Barack Hussein Obama and his atrocious Korean trade deal. “Joe Biden has backed every single blood-sucking globalist attack on U.S. auto workers,” he continued before asking for the endorsement of the United Auto Workers (UAW) members, who are currently striking against General Motors (GM), Ford, and Stellantis.

WOW! Trump to Auto Workers: Biden Conducting an "ASSASSINATION" of Your Jobs

Those words are going to leave a mark and stick in the minds of voters. He's on the picket line. In the now Democrat festung of Michigan and ostensibly in front of a crowd of mostly lifelong Democrat voters – who from what I understand loudly booed the mention of Biden and his staged 12-minute appearance the other day, in which he spoke, for lack of a better word, for all of about 75 seconds before jetting off to California for a fundraiser.

I am neither endorsing nor not endorsing Donald Trump. But when you compare and contrast the footage of him with the strikers and the schmucks in Simi Valley, it doesn't redound well on the latter. By appearing on that stage, all of them are stuck in the past, in an illusion of regular order and business as usual when we are well past a point of no return. And that doesn't let Trump off the hook either. While as of this writing the nomination will more than likely be his, he too seems to be operating in a manner that kind of borders on cluelessness, considering that the entire weight of the instrumentalities of a weaponized government are about to crash down on his shoulders. No amount of his vaunted Teflon coating is going to protect him.

The real estate world is in disbelief after far leftist judge Arthur Engoron estimated the value of Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, at just $18 million while ruling the former president had overvalued his business empire.

The intentional devaluation, intended to harm Trump and his private business interests, comes despite a nearby patch of trees selling for $150 million.

“If Mar-a-Lago is worth $18 million… I’ll take 10 please!!!” remarked Trump’s eldest son Don Jr. Eric Trump, an executive vice president at the Trump Organization, added that “real estate circles in Florida are laughing at this foolishness.” Forbes has previously cited real estate brokers as estimating the estate’s value at over $200 million, with brokers based on Palm Beach turning in even higher estimates of up to $725 million. . .

[Libs of TikTok Chaya Raichik on X-Twitter]:

- - Hunter Biden’s paintings are worth $500k and a 20-acre property in Palm Beach is worth $18 Million.
- - 36 Hunter paintings can buy Mar-A-Lago .
- - Are you paying attention yet?

And if that wasn't enough, the institutionalized cheat apparatus is more than likely going to put whoever the Democrat candidate is over the top with millions more fake ballots, quadruple counted ballots, dead voters, multiple voters, multiple dead voters and on and on and on.

So, in the face of all that, we have an unserious at best and in-on-the-scam at worst GOP and the likely candidate who in the unlikely event survives a political martyrdom could quite conceivably face an actual one.

    ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY

  • "These racist cartoons emphasize hatred and division. They create conflict and aggression. They stereotype whites as aggressors and all minorities as ignorant. So ignorant, in your prejudiced opinion, that you felt they needed a cartoon to falsely alert them to something that doesn’t exist."
    School District Shows Videos Depicting Whites as Mosquitoes
  • "What makes Rome and its fate so significant for Americans today."
    The Roman Empire Through Virgil’s Eyes

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1 Thank you, JJ

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 28, 2023 07:47 AM (1n+EO)

2 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 07:47 AM (BRHaw)

3 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 28, 2023 07:48 AM (sNtYB)

4 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 28, 2023 07:49 AM (z99Zw)

5 I saw the 'Filthy, Anti-American Lying Shit-Whores' open for ABBA at the Plaza in '86.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 28, 2023 07:50 AM (zZu0s)

6
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 28, 2023 07:51 AM (ENBF0)

7 High contrast is best contrast.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 28, 2023 07:51 AM (zZu0s)

8
you had to know that this would be a fiasco when they chose this Ilia Calderón to be the moderator.

When did we start having to put diacritics on Hispanic names? It used to be you never saw them, now it's mandatory. Like pronouncing Ukraine's capital as "Keev" or having to say "Torino".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 07:51 AM (MoZTd)

9 morning horde.

happy friday eve

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 28, 2023 07:52 AM (nXhwP)

10 Has the Republican National Committee learned nothing from the likes of George Stephanopoulos, Martha Raddatz and Candy Crowley?

Why would they learn anything? They are willing accomplices here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 28, 2023 07:52 AM (zZu0s)

11 Wow.

Maybe Trump should demand a great big refund on several decades worth of property tax overpayments.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 07:53 AM (9UlRk)

12 “Joe Biden claims to be the most pro-union president in history. Nonsense. His entire career has been an act of economic treason and union destruction,” Trump continued. “He’s destroyed unions, shipping millions of American jobs overseas while personally taking money from foreign nations, hand over fist. Look at the money he got from China.”

This is pretty damn strong from Trump. He 'can' have a good way with words.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 28, 2023 07:53 AM (zZu0s)

13 'Close the border ...and then what?'

Find and remove every illegal alien, you dunce!

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 28, 2023 07:54 AM (roH4R)

14
Has the Republican National Committee learned nothing from the likes of George Stephanopoulos, Martha Raddatz and Candy Crowley?

I'd say I'd love to see Tucker Carlson moderating a Democratic debate, but the Democrats have decided not to have them any more because Our Democracy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 07:54 AM (MoZTd)

15 5 I saw the 'Filthy, Anti-American Lying Shit-Whores' open for ABBA at the Plaza in '86.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 28, 2023 07:50 AM (zZu0s)


I saw thematic the Calderone Concert Hall in '82. (NB, there really is a Calderone Concert Hall in Jersey)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 07:54 AM (x0n13)

16 Who needs to hear a GOP debate? I can sum up the entire thing without seeing it.

Moderator: "what would you racist insurrectionists do with regard to Policy A?"

Half the stage: "I would do X, Y, and Z, because I'm a giant cuck."

Other half of the stage: "well, I will tell right now that I'll NEVER do X, Y, and Z because I'm a shameless liar!"

Fin.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 28, 2023 07:54 AM (0FoWg)

17 The basic problem with GOP debates is that they are full of Republicans.

There may be someone good for 28 in that debate group, Maybe Ron...but I kind of doubt it. They all have GOP on them. Makes each of them unappealing

Posted by: ex GOP at September 28, 2023 07:54 AM (qS8WV)

18 Mornin’, All. Happy Friday Eve.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 07:54 AM (xTRSc)

19 I see the GOP's almost preternatural determination to allow closet or outright leftists to moderate their debates as a perfect statement of their utter, eternal, irredeemable hopelessness.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 28, 2023 07:55 AM (w2XJ8)

20 13 'Close the border ...and then what?'

Find and remove every illegal alien, you dunce!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 28, 2023 07:54 AM (roH4R)


That was the thrust of the piece.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 07:55 AM (x0n13)

21 There is nothing in American civic experience so indicative of the completed evisceration of the political sphere than the Presidential Debate.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 07:55 AM (9UlRk)

22
"Be quiet, good people. I am the Bathed, Anti-American Lying Shit-Whore!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 07:56 AM (MoZTd)

23 19 I see the GOP's almost preternatural determination to allow closet or outright leftists to moderate their debates as a perfect statement of their utter, eternal, irredeemable hopelessness.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 28, 2023 07:55 AM (w2XJ

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 28, 2023 07:56 AM (zZu0s)

24 20
'That was the thrust of the piece.'

Right. Heh heh. Sorry.

Ready! Fire! Aim!

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 28, 2023 07:58 AM (roH4R)

25 The only Latina newswoman I trust is Miranda Veracruz de la Hoya Cardinal!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 07:58 AM (krqg6)

26 Has the Republican National Committee learned nothing?

Quite obviously, not.

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It's a more general problem than simply the debate moderators. They are stupid beyond belief, and PDJT supporting the RNC power structure is also stupid beyond belief.

Fortunately, there are outside groups trying to build an effective organization, people like Turning Point and Harmeet Dhillon. Hope they can do it.

Posted by: Brandon did that! at September 28, 2023 07:58 AM (E5jkc)

27 Oops. Brandon sock removal.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 07:58 AM (E5jkc)

28 They all have GOP on them. Makes each of them unappealing
Posted by: ex GOP at Septem

Damn straight.

If you have the R next to your name, I've learned all I care to about you. No need to talk my ear off. You already said you're a treacherous crook.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 28, 2023 07:58 AM (0FoWg)

29 5 I saw the 'Filthy, Anti-American Lying Shit-Whores' open for ABBA at the Plaza in '86.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 28, 2023 07:50 AM (zZu0s)

I loved when the did Dancing Queen in the original Spanglish.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 07:58 AM (BRHaw)

30 Agarn!

Hits judge with hat!

Posted by: pawn at September 28, 2023 07:58 AM (5g9YU)

31 Lock each constant in a soundproof box with a microphone.

Only enable their mic when it's their turn to speak.

If they start waffling or lying or just plain smelling bad, cut the mic and fill their box with bees.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 07:59 AM (9UlRk)

32
Lincoln and Douglas they ain't. It used to be back then that speeches lasted for hours, were coherent - even eloquent - and said almost extempore.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 08:00 AM (MoZTd)

33 Morning again, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 28, 2023 08:00 AM (ju2Fy)

34 *contestant.

I despair of this phone keyboard. It's like it's actively trying to make itself worse the more i use it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 08:00 AM (9UlRk)

35 21 There is nothing in American civic experience so indicative of the completed evisceration of the political sphere than the Presidential Debate.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 07:55 AM (9UlRk)


You could be the most erudite, brilliant off the cuff speaker, with the spontaneity and genius of a Groucho Marx combined with the depth of knowledge of a Rush Limabaugh, and still come off looking like a joke, even a good one, was rehearsed for weeks in a debate setting.

And no one on that stage comes within a billion light years to the aforementioned.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 08:01 AM (x0n13)

36 The GOP's brand is more toxic than Bud Light. And also gayer.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 28, 2023 08:03 AM (0FoWg)

37 And no one on that stage comes within a billion light years to the aforementioned.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 08:01 AM (x0n13)

What they really need to do to make it look more serious is to add pyrotechnics and turnbuckles.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 08:03 AM (9UlRk)

38 Good morning again dear morons and gracias JJ

I picked her out in the first 60 seconds. Why does the GOP keep inviting leftists to moderate/subvert their debates?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 28, 2023 08:03 AM (RIvkX)

39 “Joe Biden claims to be the most pro-union president in history. Nonsense. His entire career has been an act of economic treason and union destruction,” Trump continued. “He’s destroyed unions, shipping millions of American jobs overseas while personally taking money from foreign nations, hand over fist. Look at the money he got from China.”
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Trump is going to roast Biden on these two issues, if Biden runs. Shouting "abortion, abortion, abortion!!!" isn't going to be enough to save Biden either, though it might be effective down-ballot. My wife (a registered Dem and a Trump voter) gets abortion scare mail once a week already, and we are a year out yet.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:03 AM (3OsSW)

40 Is the comment section set on a narrower measure this morning?? It feels cramped even after ctrl+ing.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:04 AM (krqg6)

41 DeSantis should have refused to participate. I'd respect him more for it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 28, 2023 08:04 AM (w2XJ8)

42 Calderón did gore Pence on the Obarky care question. Not that it makes any difference as Pence is toast.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2023 08:04 AM (TILUI)

43 Good morning.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:04 AM (t0OGg)

44 Peter "Puffer" Buttigieg Says Quiet Part Out Loud to EV Skeptics: 'It is Coming No Matter What'

Bet Chasten hears that regularly.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:04 AM (BRHaw)

45 I didn’t watch one second of the “debate” (had many better things to do), but Dallas radio summed it up this morning as everyone attacking Vivek; they played sound bites of each of the other candidates calling Vivek stupid and beholden to China (the irony!). The two that sounded the worst were Pence and Haley…. There’s nothing worse than a fake fire-and-brimstone preacher and they’re both smarmy scolds. Oh and they played a sound bite of that intellectual powerhouse Tim Scott arguing the importance of more $$ for Ukraine. DJT was a genius to skip that debacle; I take that back, as you’d only have to be breathing to figure that out. But really just when I thought I couldn’t despise the GOP more…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 28, 2023 08:04 AM (m6dV4)

46 36 The GOP's brand is more toxic than Bud Light. And also gayer.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 28, 2023 08:03 AM (0FoWg)

Disgusting weak ineffective bilge that only the most brand loyal degenerates would even consider buying at this point.

Just like Bud Light.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 08:05 AM (9UlRk)

47 What they really need to do to make it look more serious is to add pyrotechnics and turnbuckles.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 08:03 AM (9UlRk)

If they promise to unleash Roman Reigns, Gunther, and Rey Mysterio on all the candidates to for-real beat the piss out of them all, I promise to watch it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 28, 2023 08:06 AM (0FoWg)

48 Excellent essay this morning.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:06 AM (3OsSW)

49 42 Calderón did gore Pence on the Obarky care question. Not that it makes any difference as Pence is toast.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 28, 2023 08:04 AM (TILUI)

He was day old toast when he told Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. that Ukraine was most important thing to Americans.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:06 AM (BRHaw)

50 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2023 08:06 AM (9R40N)

51 Bad enough that she's a filthy, anti-American lying shit-whore. But that she opened a national American broadcast in Spanish, intended primarily for an American audience in a nation whose unofficial official language is supposed to be English, and that one of the top issues and existential threats in and facing said nation is a completely erased border where millions of third world peasants primarily but not exclusively from south of that border have come and continue to invade us, is just off-the-charts chutzpocrisy.
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What a farce. Oy.

Trump should add it to his platform. Promise to deliver to Congress a simple bill making English the official language of the United States, granting English supremacy in all government communications, and requiring that all public communications - radio, signage, etc. - be in English first, followed by whatever other language is in play. Make it official.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:07 AM (t0OGg)

52 The GOPe held a "debate" and no one watched.

Why would they....all the supposed "candidates" are as appealing as herpes simplex 1 or 2.

Was Alan Keyes not available?

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 28, 2023 08:07 AM (0lY6Y)

53 What they really need to do to make it look more serious is to add pyrotechnics and turnbuckles.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 08:03 AM (9UlRk)
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And some folding steel chairs and some tables that they can smash their opponents through...

In fact, I nominate the WWE or AEW to host the next Presidential Debate. Trump might even show up for a WWE-hosted debate...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 08:08 AM (YIVH2)

54
Peter "Puffer" Buttigieg Says Quiet Part Out Loud to EV Skeptics: 'It is Coming No Matter What'

Oh, they'll have high-storage batteries good for all weather conditions, be much less expensive and easy to maintain and charging stations will proliferate like mushrooms, right? So everyone will happily abandon their ICE vehicles for EVs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 08:08 AM (MoZTd)

55 Trump might even show up for a WWE-hosted debate...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 08:08 AM (YIVH2)

He's the only one with experience.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 08:08 AM (9UlRk)

56
I hear the "best" thing about last night's debate was -

Fatty Lumpkin spouting off like he'd never had that hug and tug date with Oblabla.

Hilarious!!!

Sorry, Fatty, you suck one dick and....

Posted by: naturalfake at September 28, 2023 08:09 AM (QzZeQ)

57 And Zillow immediately made sure it's "Zessitmate"'reflected $18-24 million.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:10 AM (R8uWY)

58 By appearing on that stage, all of them are stuck in the past, in an illusion of regular order and business as usual when we are well past a point of no return.
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They're playing pretend. Pretending that the country is still honorable. Pretending that elections still matter. Pretending that their tired, worn-out old catchphrases have meaning. Pretending about everything.

It's a show, and they are playing their parts in that show.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:10 AM (t0OGg)

59 Watching Roman Reigns hit Mike Pence in the face with a folding chair and then chuck him into the crowd like a faggoty old ragdoll would be the television moment of the 21st century.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 28, 2023 08:10 AM (0FoWg)

60 "In fact, I nominate the WWE or AEW to host the next Presidential Debate. Trump might even show up for a WWE-hosted debate..."

I think this is an awesome idea!

Posted by: pawn at September 28, 2023 08:10 AM (5g9YU)

61 Monday is Jazz Jennings Day.

Wednesday is Elliot Page Day,

In 2022, 61 percent of third-graders in the Los Angeles Unified School District did not meet California’s watered-down, equity-driven standard for English.

In 2022, 59 percent of third-graders failed to meet the state’s already-low standard for math competency.

Priorities??

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:11 AM (BRHaw)

62 "The corrupt politicians who've deliberately caused this crisis don't want it solved, but it must be solved."
Close the Border. . . Then What?

--

The "then what?" in solving this self-inflicted crisis is really quite easy. No welfare, no social services, no work permits. They will go home on their own. But the intestinal fortitude isn't there on the right, and the left want them here.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 28, 2023 08:11 AM (mupln)

63 The real estate world is in disbelief after far leftist judge Arthur Engoron estimated the value of Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, at just $18 million while ruling the former president had overvalued his business empire.
++++
What's the county's tax assessment on the property?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:11 AM (t0OGg)

64 Trump might even show up for a WWE-hosted debate...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 08:08 AM (YIVH2)

He's the only one with experience.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 08:08 AM (9UlRk)
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Could you imagine Trump showing up for "Miz TV" on Monday Night Raw?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 08:12 AM (YIVH2)

65 Sorry, Fatty, you suck one dick and....

Posted by: naturalfake at September 28, 2023 08:09 AM (QzZeQ)

He did not swallow

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:12 AM (BRHaw)

66 SCTV's Lincoln-Douglas Debates

https://tinyurl.com/2vejechb

first 1:53 minutes of 4:50 minutes [the rest is fun too]

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:12 AM (krqg6)

67 Bravo, bravo, bravo, JJ!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at September 28, 2023 08:13 AM (YNbPJ)

68 57. Zillow is just like every other one size fits all made for the masses computer program. Once you get out of a McMansion subdivision, it’s lost on valuations.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 28, 2023 08:14 AM (FfZAG)

69 What's the county's tax assessment on the property?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:11 AM (t0OGg)

about 13

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:14 AM (BRHaw)

70 Nobody is more shocked than me, I tell you! Shocked!

The conclusion of the document entitled "Barrage deaths: report on Shahed-136/131 UAVs" is that Western components have made their way into construction of Iranian Shahed Kamikaze drones, which Kiev sees as a scandal which must be dealt with.

"A wide range of components produced by western companies have been found in the downed drone models, according to the submission to the G7, which comprises France, the US, the UK, Germany, Japan, Italy and Canada, plus the EU," The Guardian writes, based on the secret document it has reviewed.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:15 AM (R8uWY)

71 “Imagine them arguing that, if someone stayed at their parents’ house during the pandemic, listed it as their permanent address for work, and got a paycheck, the parents somehow also worked for the employer,” Sams tweeted. “It’s bananas. Yet this is what extreme House Republicans have sunken to.” (So, this jerk just admitted that Hunter worked for the CCP? - jjs)
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The multiple lies won't work this time. Too easily seen through. The WH is entirely dependent on Propaganda media now, to protect them.

No pandemic then existed.

Hunter wasn't getting "a paycheck" because he had no job, no employment.

Hunter testified he lived in California at this time.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:15 AM (NIP6b)

72
What's the county's tax assessment on the property?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:11 AM (t0OGg)


It's perfectly all right for the government to grossly inflate the value of your property. Sovereign immunity, bitchez!

*written in the Command Center of my $6 million (as appraised) house*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 08:16 AM (MoZTd)

73 It's a show, and they are playing their parts in that show.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:10 AM (t0OGg)

To not pretend would be to impose a moral imperative and call to duty beyond their character and measure. By participating without objection to this farce they are unconsciously declaring their moral unfitness.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 28, 2023 08:17 AM (w2XJ8)

74 Why doesn’t some Republican introduce a “Renew Equal Protection Under the Law” Act that makes prosecutors personally liable for charging people with little used laws (say haven’t even used in 10 years) and if there are no convictions or they are eventually overturned. The prosecutor will also be fired and permanently barred from Federal service.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:17 AM (cMXNt)

75 It's National Strawberry Cream Pie Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 08:17 AM (NpAcC)

76 What's the county's tax assessment on the property?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

That is the thing. The media is conflating tax assessed value with market value because all of the renters don't understand the difference between the two, yet they will lecture to us like they are the authority.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:17 AM (R8uWY)

77 For those without a scorecard, "Virgil" (Vergil) was a shill. His work was bought and paid for by Augustus, pretty much the personification of The Man. Augustus loved having himself portrayed as the patron of the virtues.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 28, 2023 08:17 AM (4PZHB)

78 Peter "Puffer" Buttigieg Says Quiet Part Out Loud to EV Skeptics: 'It is Coming No Matter What'

Bet Chasten hears that regularly.
Posted by: rhennigantx


Did they suddenly find more nickel, cobalt & lithium?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2023 08:18 AM (9R40N)

79 What's the county's tax assessment on the property?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:11 AM (t0OGg)

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$20

Same as in town.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 08:18 AM (YIVH2)

80 Disclose.tv @disclosetv 19h
JUST IN - ChatGPT can now provide users with current and "authoritative information" by browsing the Internet, OpenAI says.

Disclose.tv @disclosetv 18h
MORE - OpenAI didn't detail what "authoritative information" means.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:19 AM (krqg6)

81 ey were if Trump had backed Harmeet Dhillon instead of Ronna Romney McDaniel to be chairman of the RNC. You just have to shake your head at that

———-

Trump did not support McDaniel over Dhillon.

Link in nic.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:19 AM (cMXNt)

82 Last night, I watched Tito Francona's final game as manager, before he heads into retirement. What a pleasure!

I guess I was vaguely aware the dwarves were gathering in California, but who cares?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:19 AM (NIP6b)

83 It's National Strawberry Cream Pie Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 08:17 AM (NpAcC)

Nothing like a good Cream Pie.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 28, 2023 08:19 AM (0lY6Y)

84 "The illusion of access" sure looks a lot like "keys to the kingdom"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 08:19 AM (OzHA0)

85 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:20 AM (Zz0t1)

86 The assessed value of my property is a fraction of market value, then taxed on only half the assessed value. Can't complain about that until the school board, who controls property taxes, figures it out.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:20 AM (R8uWY)

87 The GOP's brand is more toxic than Bud Light.

--

What's most interesting is that their brand has become more toxic to their own base. I mean, I can't speak for everyone, but they are repugnant to me and I'm loathe to call myself a Republican. I'm not them. I'm not like them. Overall, their priorities and values are not mine. Are we even a base anymore to a party that has become so contrary to our ideals? I feel as though I don't have a party.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 28, 2023 08:20 AM (mupln)

88
How can I get that judge to assess the value of my home?

Sounds like he's doing good work.

Hey, artificial, bullshit property value depreciations by a factor of 23x aren't just for the rich!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at September 28, 2023 08:20 AM (QzZeQ)

89 MORE - OpenAI didn't detail what "authoritative information" means.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:19 AM (krqg6)
++++
My nickle is on "authoritative" meaning "authoritarian."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:20 AM (t0OGg)

90 "A wide range of components produced by western companies have been found in the downed drone models, according to the submission to the G7, which comprises France, the US, the UK, Germany, Japan, Italy and Canada, plus the EU," The Guardian writes, based on the secret document it has reviewed.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:15 AM (R8uWY)
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And yet they are not complaining about the shoddy parts made in China and North Korea...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 08:21 AM (YIVH2)

91 Yes Trump made mistakes. Yes Trump had opportunities to drain the swamp that he didn't take. Yes he supported people that weren't in his best interest.

He's still the best option for President we've had since the last time he was President.

He's not a RINO. He cares about the American worker. He'll do more for this economy and this country than any other human. Period.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:22 AM (Zz0t1)

92 Trump didn't NOT support Romney. Reeee!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:22 AM (R8uWY)

93 It's National Strawberry Cream Pie Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 08:17 AM (NpAcC)
====
OK I don't get it.

Strawberry pie is good. But what is Strawberry Cream? Strawberries with Whipped Cream on top? Strawberries whipped with cream? Plain strawberries aren't good enough? You have to futz with the berries?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 28, 2023 08:22 AM (RIvkX)

94 Breaking911 @Breaking911 10h
TRUMP TO UNION WORKERS: “If you want to save your livelihoods and your way of life, then you need to send a message and join the ultimate strike against the globalist class by casting your vote for a gentleman known as Donald J. Trump.”

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:22 AM (krqg6)

95 What's most interesting is that their brand has become more toxic to their own base. I mean, I can't speak for everyone, but they are repugnant to me and I'm loathe to call myself a Republican. I'm not them. I'm not like them. Overall, their priorities and values are not mine. Are we even a base anymore to a party that has become so contrary to our ideals? I feel as though I don't have a party.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 28, 2023 08:20 AM (mupln)
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The GOP is its own base party, as the "leaders" are enslaved by their own baser natures and hunger for wealth and power over doing what's right for others.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 08:22 AM (YIVH2)

96 What's the county's tax assessment on the property?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

That is the thing. The media is conflating tax assessed value with market value because all of the renters don't understand the difference between the two, yet they will lecture to us like they are the authority.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy


Assesed is usually higher than what the market will bear. You want honesty in assessments?

Make the taxing authority have to buy the property for what they assess it at. You say yhe property is worth $400k and the market will only bear $295k?

Sold to the taxing authority for $400k!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2023 08:23 AM (9R40N)

97 "A wide range of components produced by western companies have been found in the downed drone models, according to the submission to the G7, which comprises France, the US, the UK, Germany, Japan, Italy and Canada, plus the EU," The Guardian writes, based on the secret document it has reviewed.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:15 AM (R8uWY)
++++
It will be easier to figure out which western powers chose to *not* provide arms to Iran.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:23 AM (t0OGg)

98 But regardless of how he looks, parents and students alike might very well mind a boy in the girls’ room. Nevertheless, the school board insisted on keeping its conversation a secret. The whistleblowers describe how their concerns over the Open Meetings violation were repeatedly dismissed: “Quite frankly,” said one of the members, “it’s not the parents’ damn business.”

All your chillrens are belong to us!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:23 AM (BRHaw)

99 After last nights debate, Trumps decision not to have anything to do with debates is looking better and better.

The debate was an utter disaster and one of the most pitiful displays of idiocy I've ever witnessed.

The pinnacle of clown world is either Dana Parino asking the panel who would they vote off the stage and baiting Haley and Scott into a fight over curtains.


Clown World indeed.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 28, 2023 08:23 AM (x7kDr)

100 Oh...and the elections.

The States control the election. The only state that appears to have done anything about fraud is Texas. And they impeached the AG doing the investigations.

We're really f*cked. Totally.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:24 AM (Zz0t1)

101 Breitbart quotes Trump addressing "tool and dye makers."
Why do they leave out the weavers and tapesters?
Hope nobody tries to blame this one on English majors.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 28, 2023 08:24 AM (4PZHB)

102 @74 MAGA_Ken-because the Republican Party is philosophically aligned against you and plays with/for the other team.
The Moose(GOP) out front curb stomping you for the last 40 plus years should have told you. No offense though, we will ceaselessly ask why don't they do this, why don't they do that, when will they.........and on and on. It's what we do. We do not learn lessons. Witness this GOP primary and its two front runners.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2023 08:24 AM (IlL6s)

103 It's also,
Ask A Stupid Question Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 08:24 AM (NpAcC)

104 Have we discussed that it's McCarthy and the House Republicans that stripped mandatory E-Verify from the Continuing Resolution to keep the government "open" until they continue funding it with whatever multi-trillion dollar increase they decide on?

Not Democrats.

Republicans.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (+MSSo)

105 Right down the road from PDT

https://tinyurl.com/2kushhbz

78 M

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (BRHaw)

106 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (T4tVD)

107 JJS: "I am neither endorsing nor not endorsing Donald Trump."

Ridiculous.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (+o6KZ)

108 Morning Horde, thx JJ. The federal Marshalls caught the murderous psycho who killed the Baltimore woke CEO. The allegedly also attacked a family, raped the wife set them both in fire. They both survived and their child had smoke inhalation. The criminal had been let out of a 30 year jail term after 7 years by former Baltimore states attorney Mosby

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (cot+J)

109 "The Guardian writes, based on the secret document it has reviewed .

* Blink *

* Blink Blink *

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (1n+EO)

110 JUST IN - ChatGPT can now provide users with current and "authoritative information" by browsing the Internet, OpenAI says.

-

Gosh, a search engine can search the internet?

What will they think of next?

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:26 AM (+MSSo)

111 But regardless of how he looks, parents and students alike might very well mind a boy in the girls’ room. Nevertheless, the school board insisted on keeping its conversation a secret. The whistleblowers describe how their concerns over the Open Meetings violation were repeatedly dismissed: “Quite frankly,” said one of the members, “it’s not the parents’ damn business.”

All your chillrens are belong to us!
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:23 AM (BRHaw)
----
It should be noted that Wentzville, MO is a smallish suburb on the very outskirts of the St. Louis metro area. If this is going on that far out from the center of St. Louis, imagine what's happening closer in to the city where the rot is much, much deeper.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 08:26 AM (YIVH2)

112 What's the county's tax assessment on the property?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

That is the thing. The media is conflating tax assessed value with market value because all of the renters don't understand the difference between the two, yet they will lecture to us like they are the authority.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy


Assesed is usually higher than what the market will bear. You want honesty in assessments?

Make the taxing authority have to buy the property for what they assess it at. You say yhe property is worth $400k and the market will only bear $295k?

Sold to the taxing authority for $400k!
Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2023 08:23 AM (9R40N)


Yes! Esp with the horrible annual property tax rates in Texas.

I want that judge assessing my home with the same Bullshit Judgey Metrics.

I could use a YUGE tax reduction.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 28, 2023 08:27 AM (QzZeQ)

113 The pool alone is worth 18 M at MarALago. It’s a club with 500 members, has restaurants, guest suites, ball rooms, a private presidential residence, tennis courts , spa , two acres of beachfront, 20acres of property that also backs onto an inter coastal lake, and is on the National Register of Historic Places. Rush Limbaugh s place down the road sold last year for $155M and PalmBeach realtors said most buyers would consider it a tear down.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 28, 2023 08:27 AM (FfZAG)

114
When we moved here in 2009, the population of our town was 810. Now, unfortunately, it's going to be the home of everybody. About 3 miles north of us one of those "Master Planned Communities" - with 2500 sq. ft. houses on 2600 sq. ft. plots - is going up. A new high school has opened about two miles away. A segment of the Grand Parkway will pass about a mile or so south of the Schloss. Maybe someone will come and wave a huge amount of cash in front of me for our place.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 08:27 AM (MoZTd)

115 But regardless of how he looks, parents and students alike might very well mind a boy in the girls’ room. Nevertheless, the school board insisted on keeping its conversation a secret. The whistleblowers describe how their concerns over the Open Meetings violation were repeatedly dismissed: “Quite frankly,” said one of the members, “it’s not the parents’ damn business.” ...
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:23 AM (BRHaw)
++++
In the eternal battle over the point "who owns children, their parents or the state," the state thinks it has won this round. I guess we'll see.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:27 AM (t0OGg)

116 Morning Horde, thx JJ. The federal Marshalls caught the murderous psycho who killed the Baltimore woke CEO. The allegedly also attacked a family, raped the wife set them both in fire. They both survived and their child had smoke inhalation. The criminal had been let out of a 30 year jail term after 7 years by former Baltimore states attorney Mosby
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (cot+J)
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He's the sort of complete monster that should have been strapped to the chair about 5 minutes after he was caught the first time.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 08:27 AM (YIVH2)

117 "The previous record for an American in space of 355 days was set by Mark Vande Hei last year. This new year-long mission is only exceeded by two Russian missions on Mir, Valeri Polykov’s 439 day mission in 1994-1995, and Sergei Avdeyev’s 381 day mission in 1998-1999."
================
Congratulations to the Russians for bringing these guys back safely, though six months latter than planned. And thank heavens for the cargo capacity SpaceX, enabling food deliveries.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:28 AM (BexIj)

118 Trump was breathing fire last night.

No, it wasn't really shocking rhetoric-- it mirrors what Democrats say daily.

What was shocking was a Republican doing it.

Yes all those on the stage at the debate are stuck in the past. Run by pathetic retread loser consultants who have run the same template campaign for 20 years. Just white out the date at the top and scratch in the current year.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 08:28 AM (OzHA0)

119 Good morning JJ and horde
In City but safe and busy

Posted by: Skip at September 28, 2023 08:28 AM (rtYyU)

120 Since when is a judge qualified as an appraiser of anything?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:28 AM (vHIgi)

121 Have we discussed that it's McCarthy and the House Republicans that stripped mandatory E-Verify from the Continuing Resolution to keep the government "open" until they continue funding it with whatever multi-trillion dollar increase they decide on?

Not Democrats.

Republicans.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (+MSSo)
++++
Did they? I didn't know that. It surprises me not even a little bit.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:28 AM (t0OGg)

122 @116 shot while trying to escape would work too

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 08:29 AM (cot+J)

123 Michael Gambon has died at 82. RIP.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 08:29 AM (xTRSc)

124 Huh?? R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 8h
🚨#BREAKING: At this time Katie Hobbs is no longer the Governor of Arizona. Republican Kimberly Yee the state treasurer is currently the Acting Governor. The reason why is currently unknown at this time

R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 8h
The official Statement

R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 7h
🚨#UPDATE: Looks like Katie Hobbs was in Washington DC she should be back in Arizona tomorrow according to the statement but that's just my guess
https://tinyurl.com/2p9b8why
Nitter link to all three.

https://tinyurl.com/ms7unpwu
Xtwitter link to statement IMAGE

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:29 AM (krqg6)

125 It's also,
Ask A Stupid Question Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 08:24 AM (NpAcC)

But what is Strawberry Cream? Strawberries with Whipped Cream on top? Strawberries whipped with cream? Plain strawberries aren't good enough? You have to futz with the berries?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 28, 2023 08:22 AM (RIvkX)
===
5 stupid questions right there.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 28, 2023 08:29 AM (RIvkX)

126 Since when is a judge qualified as an appraiser of anything?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:28 AM (vHIgi)
++++
Since I said so.

And it's "Your Honor" to you. Don't slip up again or I'll throw you in jail for contempt.

Posted by: The Judge at September 28, 2023 08:29 AM (t0OGg)

127 118 Trump was breathing fire last night.

No, it wasn't really shocking rhetoric-- it mirrors what Democrats say daily.

What was shocking was a Republican doing it.

Yes all those on the stage at the debate are stuck in the past. Run by pathetic retread loser consultants who have run the same template campaign for 20 years. Just white out the date at the top and scratch in the current year.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 08:28 AM (OzHA0)

———

20? Try more like 35 years, nearly indistinguishable from Jack Kemp.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:30 AM (cMXNt)

128
Since when is a judge qualified as an appraiser of anything?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:28 AM (vHIgi)


The robe makes the expert. It's the Tarnhelm of Genius.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 08:30 AM (MoZTd)

129 BTW, this

"In an August 2020 email to investigators, including IRS whistleblower Joseph Ziegler, Wolf stated that a section of a drafted warrant (that has not been publicly released) needed to be redone because it included the elder Biden."

Explosive Documents Show DOJ Official Prohibited Agents From Mentioning Joe Biden In Warrant
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Is a HUGE story and would be considered potentially republic-ending, Constitutional-crisis level stuff a few short years ago.

Now it's so accepted that it's not even news or particularly discussed.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:30 AM (+MSSo)

130 The criminal had been let out of a 30 year jail term after 7 years by former Baltimore states attorney Mosby
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (cot+J)



Just needed room to riot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:31 AM (Zz0t1)

131 The criminal had been let out of a 30 year jail term after 7 years by former Baltimore states attorney Mosby
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (cot+J)

He was a model prisoner

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:31 AM (BRHaw)

132 @113

>>The pool alone is worth 18 M at MarALago.

Again, what is being perpetrated and attempted here is nonsense and overt, naked persecution of an Emmanuel Goldstein figure.

There is no legitimacy to what is happening so attempting to analyze or offer counter arguments is futile.

As US Marshal Samual Gerard opined: They Don't Care.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 28, 2023 08:32 AM (x7kDr)

133 The criminal had been let out of a 30 year jail term after 7 years by former Baltimore states attorney Mosby
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (cot+J)

Rape murder arson and rape at the same fucking time

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:32 AM (BRHaw)

134 When has E-Verify ever been mandatory? It certainly hasn't been in the last 25 years at least.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 28, 2023 08:32 AM (DBrN4)

135 "it's not government regulation, it's government assassination " is really good

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:32 AM (vHIgi)

136 Hadrian, how was the eye exam?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:32 AM (vHIgi)

137 Quite frankly,” said one of the members, “it’s not the parents’ damn business.”
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This is a fairly decent summation of all public policy debate. The Uniparty and its institutional partners hammer out the policies behind closed doors. The American people scream bloody murder about it constantly, and are always ignored. It's none of our damned business what they decide to do with our lives.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 28, 2023 08:32 AM (0FoWg)

138 ...The criminal had been let out of a 30 year jail term after 7 years by former Baltimore states attorney Mosby
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 08:25 AM (cot+J)
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I rarely see reporting on the vast number of violent felons simply released from prison at the start of the pandemic, early releases, easy paroles, that have contributed to the collapse of civil safety.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 28, 2023 08:32 AM (RIvkX)

139 And it's "Your Honor" to you. Don't slip up again or I'll throw you in jail for contempt.
Posted by: The Judge


You take that robe off and I'll try a little of Your Honor on. You hear me you hillbilly?
--Jerry Reed

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2023 08:33 AM (9R40N)

140 Have we discussed that it's McCarthy and the House Republicans that stripped mandatory E-Verify from the Continuing Resolution to keep the government "open" until they continue funding it with whatever multi-trillion dollar increase they decide on?

Not Democrats.

Republicans.

++++

Did they? I didn't know that. It surprises me not even a little bit.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

--

CBS:

"The stopgap bill includes a House-passed border security proposal that orders construction of the border wall to resume, boosts the ranks of Border Patrol agents and tightens asylum rules. The plan included in the continuing resolution, though, leaves out a provision of the immigration bill related to E-Verify, which allows employers to confirm the eligibility of employees to work in the U.S."

https://tinyurl.com/2768u83s

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:33 AM (+MSSo)

141 Strawberry pie is good. But what is Strawberry Cream? Strawberries with Whipped Cream on top? Strawberries whipped with cream? Plain strawberries aren't good enough? You have to futz with the berries?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 28, 2023 08:22 AM (RIvkX)
******
This is my preference-

https://tinyurl.com/2zfzmyfu

Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 08:33 AM (NpAcC)

142 Trump did not support McDaniel over Dhillon.

Link in nic.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:19 AM (cMXNt)
====================
He supported McDaniel all the way through, until Dhillon entered the race. Then he vacillated back and forth, before finally declaring he was neutral, except he made clear he would be perfectly happy to see McDaniel win.

He can't have it both ways: he supported McDaniel and it was an idiotic move. Again.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:34 AM (HV76L)

143 102 @74 MAGA_Ken-because the Republican Party is philosophically aligned against you and plays with/for the other team.
The Moose(GOP) out front curb stomping you for the last 40 plus years should have told you. No offense though, we will ceaselessly ask why don't they do this, why don't they do that, when will they.........and on and on. It's what we do. We do not learn lessons. Witness this GOP primary and its two front runners.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2023 08:24 AM (IlL6s)


———/

Oh, I agree.

I’ve been saying the Federal government is illegitimate for years.

Would be nice to have one or two Congressmen actually try to reform the government though.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:34 AM (cMXNt)

144 When has E-Verify ever been mandatory? It certainly hasn't been in the last 25 years at least.
Posted by: Jaimo

--

Yeah, Americans were begging to get it to *be* mandatory in order to protect American jobs.

Republicans opposed it.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:34 AM (+MSSo)

145 Haven't watched a debate since Ryan vs Biden. That farce defined the nature of debates and introduced me to the absolute shit show that is our current potatus. Don't get me started on Ryan. Debates are useless. My thoughts are that I won't vote for a swamp creature. PDT, Ramaswamy or Burgum. I'm on the bubble concerning Desantis. Cannot read him to decide if he's swampy or not.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 28, 2023 08:34 AM (2NHgQ)

146 "The stopgap bill includes a House-passed border security proposal that orders construction of the border wall to resume, boosts the ranks of Border Patrol agents and tightens asylum rules. The plan included in the continuing resolution, though, leaves out a provision of the immigration bill related to E-Verify, which allows employers to confirm the eligibility of employees to work in the U.S." ...
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:33 AM (+MSSo)
++++
Is it just a notable absence, or was it in the original draft but stripped out later?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:35 AM (t0OGg)

147 But that she opened a national American broadcast in Spanish,
____

Wow. A huge boost in polling would have been given to the candidate who responded to this by saying something like "The opening of this debate in Spanish is an enormous insult to millions of Americans who don't speak it, including those who have learned to speak English in order to partake and contribute to the success of their new nation, and for many of whom Spanish is NOT their first language. This is why a huge part of our base doesn't take our party seriously anymore and wonder why the party continues to insult them."

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 28, 2023 08:35 AM (fs1hN)

148 140, so E-Verify wasn't mandatory but it just allows employers to verify their employees if they want too. That makes more sense. I'm in HR and I haven't done an E-Verify in decades. We do I-9's.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 28, 2023 08:35 AM (DBrN4)

149 R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 14h
🚨#BREAKING: Elon Musk has fired X / Twitter Election Integrity team for undermining election integrity
=====
Getting rid of former deadwood I hope; and maybe Musk found another 15 'former' FBI agents inhouse??

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:35 AM (krqg6)

150 Ilia Calderón did not begin the debate in Spanish. She addressed the nation in the stylebook NPR Hispanic accenture ("Nee-ha-RAA-hwah" on SNL).

I understood her better when she switched to Spanish.
I do not speak Spanish.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 28, 2023 08:35 AM (4PZHB)

151 He supported McDaniel all the way through, until Dhillon entered the race. Then he vacillated back and forth, before finally declaring he was neutral, except he made clear he would be perfectly happy to see McDaniel win.

He can't have it both ways: he supported McDaniel and it was an idiotic move. Again.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:34 AM (HV76L)

———

Well then by your definition, he supported Dhillon just as much as McDaniel.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:35 AM (cMXNt)

152 Might have missed it - did they pass a CR or are we talking about a current draft?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 28, 2023 08:36 AM (N3zMI)

153 https://tinyurl.com/ms7unpwu
Xtwitter link to statement IMAGE

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:29 AM (krqg6)


Thanks.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 08:36 AM (+o6KZ)

154 Was Vivek at the debate?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:36 AM (vHIgi)

155
Hadrian, how was the eye exam?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:32 AM (vHIgi)


Thank you for asking. The doc said my retinal issue was better and that actually I'm seeing better than I was at my June visit and maybe my prescription needs changing.

I'm no hypochondriac, but that's not what I wanted to hear, which was an answer to why I can't see anything any more. Back to the other eye doctor to discuss my cataracts and if they come to the threshold of needing to be removed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (MoZTd)

156 "I get the realities of politics. Believe me, I grew up in it. But if you want people to know that you’re the president of everybody in this country, it shouldn’t matter if you think you’re gonna get their vote. What you should be getting is their trust.”[/]
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Cuomo is right on, and the people of East Palestine are being force-fed pain because they voted for PDJT. This is what the junta does, delivers pain.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (HV76L)

157 Trump is using Marxist language now. Yay.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (68HCl)

158 Is it just a notable absence, or was it in the original draft but stripped out later?

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Stripped. The Hill:

"The deal would avoid a looming Oct. 1 shutdown by funding the government through Oct. 31, keeping Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs at current levels while cutting all discretionary spending by 8 percent. Along with that, it would include the House GOP’s H.R. 2 border crackdown bill — minus its provisions about requiring E-Verify."

https://tinyurl.com/yncn4bhy

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (+MSSo)

159 As I said the other day:
Trump speaks about what the base is talking about.
The rest of the party speaks about what the media is speaking about, and what the media tells them the base is speaking about.

Last night, Trump using words to describe Joe like "traitor," "rotten," "crooked," "blood-sucking," "rape and pillage " etc.?

That is the language of the base, that is how they talk about him.

While the rest of the party-- the polite, respectable Republicans--say "Mr. President," drop everything to take his call, crawl before him to meetings at the White House to "negotiate" another betrayal of Americans.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (OzHA0)

160 @154

>> Was Vivek at the debate?

He and his fabulous head of hair were present at the kids table debate.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (x7kDr)

161 https://tinyurl.com/ms7unpwu
Xtwitter link to statement IMAGE

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:29 AM (krqg6)



RINO bitch.

You take FULL advantage of the opportunity. The governor your replacing has NOTHING for the taxpaying citizen in your state, stupid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:38 AM (Zz0t1)

162 I could not understand a word that Ilia was saying and I didn't even watch the entire thing. Just the highlights after. You could see the look on the candidates faces while straining to understand what the fuck she was saying. I am that way with anyone with accents. It's awful. I can't even watch the new Daryl Walking Dead Series because it's either in French or heavy French accents and I have to concentrate on every single word that is said and have to rewind too much to figure out what they're saying. Not worth it.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 28, 2023 08:38 AM (DBrN4)

163 Besides overcoming election fraud the only pertinent questions to Trump and DeSantis should be;

How are you going to dismantle, defund, reorganize the Deep State and survive/avoid legal prosecution for attempting to do so? When the Democrats, who work for and protect the Deep State label you insurrectionists jeopardizing democracy, national security, how will you avoid or protect yourselves from being physically removed from office and being thrown in jail?
How much more do we have to watch the left prosecute the "right", throw people in prison to comprehend that this is what they'll do. We have no political party aligned with us that'll go to bat for us. What is your plan?

That shit up there^^^^^^^are the only things that matters. Policy.....we already know. Discussing it is just jerking off for policy wonks.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2023 08:38 AM (IlL6s)

164 Might have missed it - did they pass a CR or are we talking about a current draft?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher

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What McCarthy is getting ready to send to the Senate.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:38 AM (+MSSo)

165 Vivek was at the debate, usually at the bottom of the pile being attacked by all comers. Nikki Haley said she felt dumber every time she heard him speak, which, to be fair, she should, although not for her outlined reasons...

Posted by: American Hawkman at September 28, 2023 08:38 AM (skAOD)

166 oops....tell me, does the barrel now have better wifi?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:38 AM (HV76L)

167 Trump is using Marxist language now. Yay.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (68HCl)



Because Trump is a closet communist that will destroy our democracy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:39 AM (Zz0t1)

168
There still are The Masked in the airports and planes, but to a considerably lessened extent 1% to 2%, tops.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 28, 2023 08:39 AM (XoocB)

169 Wow. A huge boost in polling would have been given to the candidate who responded to this by saying something like "The opening of this debate in Spanish is an enormous insult...
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 28, 2023 08:35 AM (fs1hN)

Excellent point. Instead they sat there like dumb blinking cows thinking only of the perfect moment to let loose some pre-planned quip or backhanded insult to Trump.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 28, 2023 08:39 AM (w2XJ8)

170 I’m gon’ do some things— I’m gon’ do some things I ain’t never done before.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 28, 2023 08:40 AM (LvTSG)

171 oops....tell me, does the barrel now have better wifi?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:38 AM (HV76L)



Can and string.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:40 AM (Zz0t1)

172 so E-Verify wasn't mandatory but it just allows employers to verify their employees if they want too. That makes more sense. I'm in HR and I haven't done an E-Verify in decades. We do I-9's.
Posted by: Jaimo

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Yeah, Americans are begging for it because they've watched industries like shingling, bricklaying, drywall, construction, etc. disappear as option for Americans. It's a way to help protect American families and incomes.

Republicans removed it.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:40 AM (+MSSo)

173 https://tinyurl.com/2zfzmyfu
Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 08:33 AM (NpAcC)
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I would nom nom. Thank you

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 28, 2023 08:41 AM (RIvkX)

174 I can't even watch the new Daryl Walking Dead Series because it's either in French or heavy French accents and I have to concentrate on every single word that is said and have to rewind too much to figure out what they're saying. Not worth it.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 28, 2023 08:38 AM (DBrN4)


Close captioning

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 28, 2023 08:41 AM (45fpk)

175 Shut down theater is silly. You know they will eventually pass a bill paying for whatever they previously agreed to with the Democrats.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:41 AM (HV76L)

176 trades, not industries. Sorry. Plant workers, etc. too.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:41 AM (+MSSo)

177 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (OzHA0)

Perfect.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 28, 2023 08:41 AM (w2XJ8)

178
Close captioning
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 28, 2023 08:41 AM (45fpk)



I will not read my TV shows. That's what books are for.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:42 AM (Zz0t1)

179 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (MoZTd)

Healthy retinas are good!
Was glaucoma also ruled out?
*puts on eye dr halloween costume*
It could be cataracts, specially if it's consistently bad under certain lighting conditions.
If it's inconsistently bad/good maybe it's ocular migraines or some vascular thingy.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:42 AM (vHIgi)

180 157 Trump is using Marxist language now. Yay.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (68HCl)


Pussy.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 08:42 AM (+o6KZ)

181 Close captioning
Posted by: grammie winger

We use close captioning on everything

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (vHIgi)

182 I will not read my TV shows. That's what books are for.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:42 AM (Zz0t1)


I watch a lot of Britbox. Between the British, Scottish, Welsh and New Zealand accents, I need all the help I can get.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (45fpk)

183 175 Shut down theater is silly. You know they will eventually pass a bill paying for whatever they previously agreed to with the Democrats.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:41 AM (HV76L)

=======

I'd love a Speaker who said, "I'm going to shut this fucker down until the administrative state removes all of its regulatory courts, police forces, and cuts their regulatory books by 75%. Now, I'm off to bang some hookers. Wake me from my sex coma when you're ready to deal."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (LvTSG)

184 A plague on both the UAW and the Big Three. The UAW, for their shortsighted demands for 32 hours as full time, and the Big Three for insisting and demanding that their employees continue building products no one wants.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (68HCl)

185 Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (T4tVD)

186 Trump is using Marxist language now. Yay.
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Oh no!

Emotional language that engages and motivates the audience?
That will not do!

Better we stick to the FACTS and LOGIC that has swept us to victory upon victory.

Say, who's quotes are people going to talk about for the rest of the week: Trump or the Faceless Blob of Boring that "debated" last night?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (OzHA0)

187 The GOPe lost me when they said the commoners shouldn't get a say in who the chairman is because we don't even read the NY Times!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (R8uWY)

188 Vivek was at the debate, usually at the bottom of the pile being attacked by all comers. Nikki Haley said she felt dumber every time she heard him speak, which, to be fair, she should, although not for her outlined reasons...
Posted by: American Hawkman at September 28, 2023 08:38 AM (skAOD)
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Me-Again said the other day that the GOPe types are "very comfortable" with Haley. I guess that means we will soon discover she is a grifter par excellance.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:44 AM (HV76L)

189 165 Vivek was at the debate, usually at the bottom of the pile being attacked by all comers

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I imagine that's giving him a poll bost

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:44 AM (vHIgi)

190 What's the county's tax assessment on the property?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

A few counties have a web program called AREIS, Advanced Real Estate Information System, that allows anyone to see the assessor's valuation. It's a useful tool, when compared with zillowlike services. You might want to check if it is enabled in your area.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 28, 2023 08:44 AM (4PZHB)

191 Michael Gambon, who played Albus Dumbledore in the last six Harry Potter films, has sadly passed away at the age of 82.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 08:44 AM (NpAcC)

192
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:42 AM (vHIgi)

Meant to ask, how is Doggeh?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 08:44 AM (MoZTd)

193 Trump is using Marxist language now. Yay.

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Sort of related, I didn't watch either the first or second (R) debate.

Was *anything* asked about fraud or how it would be addressed if the candidate won?

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:44 AM (+MSSo)

194 …and that bitch moderator sounds like she wants America to have its own little Quebec. Bad enough our government wants this country to have a Quebec of its own.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:45 AM (68HCl)

195 Hiya JT!

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 28, 2023 08:45 AM (45fpk)

196 191 Michael Gambon, who played Albus Dumbledore in the last six Harry Potter films, has sadly passed away at the age of 82.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 08:44 AM (NpAcC)

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Tangentially, the casting of Richard Harris as Dumbledore seems so odd in retrospect considering his early career.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 28, 2023 08:45 AM (LvTSG)

197
More lootin' in Philly last night. Lookin' for bread in the liquor store I guess.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2023 08:46 AM (enJYY)

198 28% of Americans ‘Not Confident’ That 2024 Vote Will Be Fair and Accurate: I&I/TIPP Poll
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A good portion of the 72% also not confident, however they are confident that answering any question on elections that doesn't mindlessly repeat they are the most fair and accurate elections in all of human history, could cost them their livelihoods, and not worth the risk for worthless poll.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 28, 2023 08:46 AM (fs1hN)

199 ha

A review of three large industry-funded studies found it was impossible for cholesterol to be the main cause of heart disease as those with low levels had the same levels of arterial sclerosis as those with high levels

The same study found benefits claimed by statin supporters are ineffective and unsafe, as statements are invalid, compromised by misleading statistics and excluding information from unsuccessful trials

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:46 AM (BRHaw)

200 137 Quite frankly,” said one of the members, “it’s not the parents’ damn business.”
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This is a fairly decent summation of all public policy debate. The Uniparty and its institutional partners hammer out the policies behind closed doors. The American people scream bloody murder about it constantly, and are always ignored. It's none of our damned business what they decide to do with our lives.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 28, 2023 08:32 AM (0FoWg)


Late in the 2020 campaign Biden said that in his White House, everyday Americans will have a seat at the table when economic policies are discussed.

Posted by: GL at September 28, 2023 08:47 AM (5fDan)

201 Scientists on the Osiris-Rex team have confirmed they have found dirt on asteroid Bennu.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 28, 2023 08:47 AM (MvF+J)

202 I like close captioning too.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:47 AM (HV76L)

203 “Emotional language that engages and motivates the audience?
That will not do!

“Better we stick to the FACTS and LOGIC that has swept us to victory upon victory.”

Indeed. If you aren’t a Marxist, DON’T SOUND LIKE A MARXIST. FACTS and LOGIC.

Weird, huh?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:47 AM (68HCl)

204 198 28% of Americans ‘Not Confident’ That 2024 Vote Will Be Fair and Accurate: I&I/TIPP Poll
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A good portion of the 72% also not confident, however they are confident that answering any question on elections that doesn't mindlessly repeat they are the most fair and accurate elections in all of human history, could cost them their livelihoods, and not worth the risk for worthless poll.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 28, 2023 08:46 AM (fs1hN)

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The American Revolution was supported by 1/3 of the colonial population. The Bolshevik Revolution had minority support.

Things happen when a material portion of the public decide that there's no other way to go.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 28, 2023 08:47 AM (LvTSG)

205 190 What's the county's tax assessment on the property?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

A few counties have a web program called AREIS, Advanced Real Estate Information System, that allows anyone to see the assessor's valuation. It's a useful tool, when compared with zillowlike services. You might want to check if it is enabled in your area.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 28, 2023 08:44 AM (4PZHB)

about 13 M

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:47 AM (BRHaw)

206 Meant to ask, how is Doggeh?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

He is gooder at home eating rice & meat with anti-D stuff in it
The blood test last week showed his liver ALT almost normal (125, normal is below 114) and he is on Denamarin supplement daily
Trying to fatten him up as he lost 5 pounds between ER visit and vet visit 2 weeks later

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:48 AM (vHIgi)

207 More lootin' in Philly last night. Lookin' for bread in the liquor store I guess.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2023 08:46 AM (enJYY)



The people must eat malt liquor!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:48 AM (Zz0t1)

208 Vet hasn't said but I am.guessing doggeh has IBD?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:48 AM (vHIgi)

209 I lasted all of 6 minutes watching last night. Listening to that vile socialist InfoSlit from Univision, plus all of the typical GOPe crap foaming out of Haley's piehole, plus all of the other Ukraine shills, just wore me out quick. One bright spot: for a person who would disrobe instantly for any of the Bush clan, I thought Perino was towing a good line.

Posted by: Deride and Despise Marxist Rat & RINO Rat InfoWhores at September 28, 2023 08:48 AM (5uy7A)

210 Oh no!

Emotional language that engages and motivates the audience?
That will not do!

Better we stick to the FACTS and LOGIC that has swept us to victory upon victory.

Say, who's quotes are people going to talk about for the rest of the week: Trump or the Faceless Blob of Boring that "debated" last night?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (OzHA0)

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Good point. Republicans have been “winning the debate” rationally for DECADES without moving the needle.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:48 AM (cMXNt)

211 The judge in Trump's fraud case has violated every principle of a fair trial. So badly, that it can't stand on appeal, even in New York. I fully expect it will be over-turned, the judge removed from the case, and the AG reprimanded., even in New York.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 28, 2023 08:49 AM (K6vwr)

212 Also we give him a probiotic - Proviable

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:49 AM (vHIgi)

213 Because Trump is a closet communist that will destroy our democracy.
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Yes!! He's going to resign/drop out one week before the election and allow Hillary Joe to win because the GOP won't be able to replace him on the ballot!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:49 AM (krqg6)

214 201 Scientists on the Osiris-Rex team have confirmed they have found dirt on asteroid Bennu.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 28, 2023 08:47 AM (MvF+J)


Enough to end its political ambitions ?

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 08:49 AM (+o6KZ)

215 187 The GOPe lost me when they said the commoners shouldn't get a say in who the chairman is because we don't even read the NY Times!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (R8uWY)

Reading the NYT is like reading Obamas books.
Know and name ones enemies.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:49 AM (BRHaw)

216 Pussy.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 08:42 AM (+o6KZ)

If hating the fact that this society increasing sees envy, hatred and resentment as great moral virtues makes me a pussy, so effing be it.


Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (68HCl)

217 Lookin' for bread in the liquor store I guess.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2023 08:46 AM (enJYY)


Beer came from bread, vodka from potatoes. They can reverse the process.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (vHIgi)

218 The judge in Trump's fraud case has violated every principle of a fair trial. So badly, that it can't stand on appeal, even in New York. I fully expect it will be over-turned, the judge removed from the case, and the AG reprimanded., even in New York.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 28, 2023 08:49 AM (K6vwr)



HA!

Take that show on the road. Ask the patrons to tip their waitress.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (Zz0t1)

219 213 Because Trump is a closet communist that will destroy our democracy.
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Yes!! He's going to resign/drop out one week before the election and allow Hillary Joe to win because the GOP won't be able to replace him on the ballot!
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 08:49 AM (krqg6)

=======

Trump is a big government Democrat from the 1980s.

He's a better Republican today than almost the entire elected Republican Party.

That's an indictment of the Republican Party more than anything else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (LvTSG)

220 28% of Americans ‘Not Confident’ That 2024 Vote Will Be Fair and Accurate: I&I/TIPP Poll
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The difference being that if Trump somehow wins the commies will unleash violence on our nation and officials like we've never seen. We got a glimpse of it when they attacked the White House and then joked about "Bunker Boy" Trump before pretending that grandmothers being forcibly pushed by military-aged men through doors that can't be opened from the outside is the same thing.

I'm guessing they're through fooling around, and next time they'll be serious.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (+MSSo)

221 I’ve seen a lot of mistakes in close captioning. Methinks it is done by people who are not native speakers of English.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 08:51 AM (xTRSc)

222
There was a time when closed captioning wasn't necessary. But the sound quality and enunciation of some actors makes it needed nowadays.

I can watch some shows from back in the 70's without a single issue. Maybe they don't use the guy with the boom mike anymore.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2023 08:51 AM (enJYY)

223 Hank Williams died at the age of 29 of heart failure in the back seat of a car en route to a New Year's Day concert in Ohio in 1953.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 28, 2023 08:51 AM (rJ48h)

224 Good point. Republicans have been “winning the debate” rationally for DECADES without moving the needle.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:48 AM (cMXNt)

You guys bitch about “the Uniparty”, but the instant Trump uses Marxist language like the Marxist Uniparty, you race to make excuses for it.

Maybe you are, in fact, a Marxist.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:52 AM (68HCl)

225 I’ve seen a lot of mistakes in close captioning. Methinks it is done by people who are not native speakers of English.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 08:51 AM (xTRSc)



Hallo. My name is Bill. Please to be typing your English to the TV's.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:52 AM (Zz0t1)

226 207 More lootin' in Philly last night. Lookin' for bread in the liquor store I guess.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2023 08:46 AM (enJYY)


The people must eat malt liquor!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:48 AM (Zz0t1)

Many alcohol crime are summary judgement meaning the is almost no defense. And every incidence adds to the number. So stealing 3 bottles could make that a 3rd offence.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:52 AM (BRHaw)

227 214 They got so much dirt, the hatch wouldn't close. But Bennu is a Democrat asteroid, so don't expect much to come of it.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 28, 2023 08:52 AM (MvF+J)

228
You guys bitch about “the Uniparty”, but the instant Trump uses Marxist language like the Marxist Uniparty, you race to make excuses for it.

Maybe you are, in fact, a Marxist.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:52 AM (68HCl)



Yes. We're all Marxist. You're a genius. Congratulations. Please go to the window to claim your prize.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:52 AM (Zz0t1)

229 Indeed. If you aren’t a Marxist, DON’T SOUND LIKE A MARXIST. FACTS and LOGIC.

Weird, huh?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:47 AM (68HCl)

———

Guess what? Elite overproduction and the wealth pump are real phenomena.

How dare people get up in arms over their livelihoods. How Marxist.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:53 AM (cMXNt)

230 I'd love a Speaker who said, "I'm going to shut this fucker down until the administrative state removes all of its regulatory courts, police forces, and cuts their regulatory books by 75%. Now, I'm off to bang some hookers. Wake me from my sex coma when you're ready to deal."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 28, 2023 08:43 AM (LvTSG)
====================
*makes note*
I'm going to broadly interpret this and put you down as a supporter of Philip Hamburger for SCOTUS. Just so you know, you have now earned the undying enmity of my marxist law professor brother, a generally good guy but, sadly, a big supporter of the technocratic Administrative State. Watch out!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:53 AM (vkS23)

231 I’ve seen a lot of mistakes in close captioning. Methinks it is done by people who are not native speakers of English.

-

I think a lot of it is voice transcription via computers. When it's not you'll see mention of who does it.

Think about the phrase Vanna White is most known for.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:53 AM (+MSSo)

232 If hating the fact that this society increasing sees envy, hatred and resentment as great moral virtues makes me a pussy, so effing be it.


Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (68HCl)

No. Trump said "Pussy". Marxist language.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 08:53 AM (+o6KZ)

233 211 The judge in Trump's fraud case has violated every principle of a fair trial. So badly, that it can't stand on appeal, even in New York. I fully expect it will be over-turned, the judge removed from the case, and the AG reprimanded., even in New York.
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I agree.

Hold on a minute, this package is heavy. Ah a gold bar with a note attached......Sorry man, can't help you.

Posted by: NY Appeals Judge at September 28, 2023 08:53 AM (fs1hN)

234 If hating the fact that this society increasing sees envy, hatred and resentment as great moral virtues makes me a pussy, so effing be it.


Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (68HCl)

envy, hatred and resentment is DEI

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 28, 2023 08:54 AM (BRHaw)

235 Yeah. Bennu's a closet fag and Uniparty member.

Posted by: Osiris-Rex team at September 28, 2023 08:54 AM (krqg6)

236 214 201 Scientists on the Osiris-Rex team have confirmed they have found dirt on asteroid Bennu.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 28, 2023 08:47 AM (MvF+J)

Enough to end its political ambitions ?
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 08:49 AM (+o6KZ)

Okay, I laughed at that. Well done!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 08:54 AM (x0n13)

237 What Marxist language did Trump use?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2023 08:54 AM (IlL6s)

238
I'm no hypochondriac, but that's not what I wanted to hear, which was an answer to why I can't see anything any more. Back to the other eye doctor to discuss my cataracts and if they come to the threshold of needing to be removed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 08:37 AM (MoZTd)


If you're over 29 and live in Texas, cataracts are a good bet.

You may have a cataract right in the center of your visual field.

Everyone I've ever met loves their new cataract free lens, so give that a look.

Not an eye doctor.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 28, 2023 08:54 AM (QzZeQ)

239 Maybe you are, in fact, a Marxist.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
____

Are you wearing a bow-tie, sir?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 28, 2023 08:55 AM (fs1hN)

240 Who sees envy as a great moral virtue?

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 28, 2023 08:55 AM (45fpk)

241 237 Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2023 08:54 AM (IlL6s)

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So...

How's the mood at the precinct?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 28, 2023 08:55 AM (LvTSG)

242 Seeing JJ's photoshop reminds me: How was Trump's rally last night?

Did the UAW rank and file turn out bigly? Trump might be the only politico who actually has a record of supporting American workers.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:55 AM (vkS23)

243 Wow. A huge boost in polling would have been given to the candidate who responded to this by saying something like "The opening of this debate in Spanish is an enormous insult...
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 28, 2023 08:35 AM (fs1hN)
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They can't. It's physically impossible for these Republicans to actually do anything outside the precisely laid template game plan that hasn't been updated for 40 years.

They would kiss their elbow before they dare tell the media a single cross word.
They are whipped mutts who run back to their abuser if anyone dares cut their chains-- they prefer the beatings because they rather those scraps over the risk of living as freemen.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 08:55 AM (OzHA0)

244 You guys bitch about “the Uniparty”, but the instant Trump uses Marxist language like the Marxist Uniparty, you race to make excuses for it.

Maybe you are, in fact, a Marxist.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:52 AM (68HCl)


————-

You got me. You totally DESTROYED me, Ben Shapiro leveled.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:55 AM (cMXNt)

245 Wyatt!!!!!


Many of us were worried about you.


How goes it up there in Meatball Land?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 28, 2023 08:56 AM (1n+EO)

246 If hating the fact that this society increasing sees envy, hatred and resentment as great moral virtues makes me a pussy, so effing be it.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (68HCl)
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I don't view his comments as being that. He didn't make an envy point, nor did he go after rich people. he *did* support the UAW, and it does do all of those things, and that gives me pause, however.

What Trump went after per the quotes above were the same things many others who aren't Republican politicians or consultants have been mentioning for many years: bad trade deals, bad trade policy and the corruption and bribery within the government. It wasn't a "rich vs. poor" envy argument, but a "these are bad ideas implemented by criminals" argument, at least by my reading.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:56 AM (t0OGg)

247 Catch Thirty-Thr33, can you provide some examples of Trump’s “Marxist” language?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 08:56 AM (xTRSc)

248
I think my home is assessed at $26,000 if I'm not mistaken. I pay about $10,000 a year in assorted real estate taxes. Last house on the street sold for north of 3/4 million.

Assessed value is a joke without digging down.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2023 08:56 AM (enJYY)

249 GOPe refuses to accept the reality that the Dems are going to take the little piece of the graft pie that the Dems allow the GOPe to have for appearances sake.

Fools.

Posted by: davidt at September 28, 2023 08:56 AM (SYTee)

250 237 Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2023 08:54 AM (IlL6s)

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So...

How's the mood at the precinct?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 28, 2023 08:55 AM (LvTSG)
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Hi Wyatt- what did you guys think of Kenney supporting the scumbag who tried to stab a cop? *SMH*

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 08:57 AM (vkS23)

251 Was *anything* asked about fraud or how it would be addressed if the candidate won?
Posted by: Family members

If you ignore the fraud hard enough, the left pinky swears not to use it against you. It is just to get rid of trump, you see.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:58 AM (R8uWY)

252 Hmmm, my Powerball ticket won $28 last nite, according to their site. Probably an op, but I'll try to cash it in anyway.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 28, 2023 08:58 AM (MvF+J)

253 I think my home is assessed at $26,000 if I'm not mistaken. I pay about $10,000 a year in assorted real estate taxes. Last house on the street sold for north of 3/4 million.

Assessed value is a joke without digging down.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2023 08:56 AM (enJYY)
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It varies wildly by state and county. Some places have chronically overblown assessments. Some have usually under-stated assessments. It also ties in to what protections are in place for property owners. California has loads of protections. Texas has none. Those are factors, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 08:58 AM (t0OGg)

254 234 If hating the fact that this society increasing sees envy, hatred and resentment as great moral virtues makes me a pussy, so effing be it.


Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (68HCl)


———

Having righteous anger at the theft of your livelihood is not envy or covetousness.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 08:58 AM (cMXNt)

255 251 If you ignore the fraud hard enough, the left pinky swears not to use it against you. It is just to get rid of trump, you see.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 28, 2023 08:58 AM (R8uWY)

=======

"They told us they put the ceiling back on their fraud. We believed them."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 28, 2023 08:58 AM (LvTSG)

256 Hey, Sponge. How’s your dad doing?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 08:58 AM (xTRSc)

257 Boker Tov Patriots

2 days

I hand in my computer this AM and get my DD 214

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 28, 2023 08:59 AM (/YHOn)

258 Hey, Sponge. How’s your dad doing?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 08:58 AM (xTRSc)



He's actually doing pretty good. I'm taking him to a VA Administration office today to try and get THAT ball rolling in the right direction.

Thanks for asking.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 08:59 AM (Zz0t1)

259 thoughts on the "debate"

i made it about 10-15 minutes. it was a complete shit show. everyone talking and interrupting. Tim Scott trying to be a "tough guy" ala Krispy-Kreme, to me came off as a blow hard stuffed shirt.

which is interesting, because i was wondering why the "moderators" were going after him so hard to open. It made me wonder what i missed from his polling or statements.

and for the love of god, i don't know why they don't use a system like the supreme court has. You get 1 minute to respond. the mic turns on with a green light at 15 seconds the light turns yellow, at 1 minute the light turns red and your mic is cut off and we move on.

it would STOP the complete shit show of last night.

but then, fox and the rnc WANT[i/i] them to look like a shitshow, as it will reduce the likely hood of a republican win, meaning they do NOT actually have to do their jobs that we elect them to do...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 28, 2023 09:00 AM (nXhwP)

260 I don't know what marxist language was used, but I'll say without hesitation that illegals coming here and working illegally and employers hiring them illegally destroys Americans and American families.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:00 AM (+MSSo)

261 2 days

I hand in my computer this AM and get my DD 214
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 28, 2023 08:59 AM (/YHOn)



Congrats!

Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 09:00 AM (Zz0t1)

262 It's raining, comrade.

Posted by: The Uniparty, pissing on your head at September 28, 2023 09:00 AM (dKuyx)

263 If a 'debate' is shown on national television and no one watches, is it still a clown show??

Posted by: Florida Peasant at September 28, 2023 09:00 AM (dr4Q1)

264 I don't know what marxist language was used, but I'll say without hesitation that illegals coming here and working illegally and employers hiring them illegally destroys Americans and American families.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:00 AM (+MSSo)



MARXIST!!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 09:00 AM (Zz0t1)

265 @240

>>Who sees envy as a great moral virtue?

Well, envy is the base of why someone would want to improve their lot in life as well as their families.

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the intent and meaning of the Seven Deadly Sins.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 28, 2023 09:00 AM (x7kDr)

266 Good to hear, Sponge. Hang in there.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 09:01 AM (xTRSc)

267 I hand in my computer this AM and get my DD 214


__

Congratulations!

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:01 AM (+MSSo)

268 Jackson, Wyoming, and Teton County formed the Southern Teton Area Rapid Transit (START) system, which bought eight electric buses from Proterra to add to its fleet of 31 diesel buses, the Cowboy State Daily reported. Proterra, which itself was at the center of a conflict of interest controversy including Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm, went bankrupt in August
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That's funny.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 09:01 AM (vkS23)

269 How goes it up there in Meatball Land?
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Did you get to eat, Wyatt?

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:01 AM (krqg6)

270 Doc is really getting to be a short-timer now!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 28, 2023 09:01 AM (1n+EO)

271 Good morning, all, and thanks, J.J.

Reuters, 9/27: Explainer: What does New York fraud ruling mean for Donald Trump's business empire? (In part) "The ruling covers 10 Trump entities but includes pillars of Trump's empire..."

"James is seeking at least $250 million and has asked the court to permanently bar Trump from serving as an officer or director of any business in New York, and prohibit him from acquiring any real estate or applying for a loan in the state for five years.

James is seeking the same restrictions for Trump's two adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric."
&
NBCChicago5: Aug 22: (In part) "A woman arrested Monday in Chicago faces federal charges for allegedly sending emails threatening the lives of former President Donald Trump and his teenage son, Barron." (Reporter said she could face up to 5 yrs. if convicted.) Again, up to (only) 5 yrs.

PDT's sons.
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The NY group poking Amazon/Bezos through (dumb) referrals to feds.

LA Daily News, 09/02: The Federal Government has it out for Elon Musk. "Musk said SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and green card holders..."

UPS & AC of vehicles thanks, in part, to more (dumb) government 'intervention."

Do u see it?

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at September 28, 2023 09:02 AM (GshMh)

272 I saw Bennu and the Jets open for Elton John at the Spectrum in '75.

Mark Benno sat in on bass for that tour, IIRC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:02 AM (x0n13)

273 "If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith?"

Matthew 6:30

Posted by: Marcus T at September 28, 2023 09:02 AM (kLbP8)

274 260 I don't know what marxist language was used, but I'll say without hesitation that illegals coming here and working illegally and employers hiring them illegally destroys Americans and American families.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:00 AM (+MSSo)

———

Not to mention that opposing the forced EVing of the auto industry is now Marxist.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 28, 2023 09:02 AM (cMXNt)

275 Congrats, NGU!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 09:02 AM (xTRSc)

276 RED DEER, Alberta (LifeSiteNews) –– The Red Deer Catholic Regional Schools (RDCRS) board of directors has ordered a fellow trustee to undergo “LGBTQ+” and holocaust “sensitivity” training for a social media post she made comparing the LGBT agenda targeting kids to that of “brainwashing” Nazi propaganda, while also banning her from most of her public duties.
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The word "Catholic" must mean something different in Canadian.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 28, 2023 09:02 AM (fs1hN)

277 Read review of last night's Leftist talking point show, hope DJT knew it was coming.

Posted by: Skip at September 28, 2023 09:03 AM (rtYyU)

278 Close the Border. . . Then What?

Trump has already 'threatened' to massively deport the illegals.

And there IS a precedent -- Check out Operation Wetback during the Eisenhower admin. I didn't make the name up, that was the name (and still is, for some reason) that history gives to it.

Oh, and Costa Rica just declared a national emergency as they are in the direct path of the hordes of illegals coming out of South America. Go figure.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2023 09:03 AM (zHuJr)

279 I fully expect it will be over-turned, the judge removed from the case, and the AG reprimanded., even in New York.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 28, 2023 08:49 AM (K6vwr)

I don't even half expect it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 28, 2023 09:03 AM (w2XJ8)

280 257 I hand in my computer this AM and get my DD 214
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 28, 2023 08:59 AM (/YHOn)

Ocasio-Cortez's bra?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:03 AM (x0n13)

281 I guess it's Marxist to point out to auto workers (who are required to join the union) that the Democrats and their policies are screwing them because if you support people who are in unions then you support unions and unions are Marxist.

FACTS and LOGIC FTW!!!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 09:04 AM (OzHA0)

282 It's raining, comrade.
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Lucky we are inside the tent, brother!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:04 AM (krqg6)

283 Fraud is hard to prove, and requires:

An intentional misrepresentation of a material fact.
Knowledge that the representation is false.
Reliance on the fact by the recipient of the information.
Damage as a result of the misrepresentation and reliance.

I don't see any of these being met in the Trump case, let alone all of them.

And the judge pre-emptively took it from the jury before any evidence was presented to them.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 28, 2023 09:04 AM (K6vwr)

284 I made a comment yesterday as Wyatt Earp. It was a Wyatt Earp quote. I'm half asleep and didn't f'ing change my nic back.

Not the commenter Wyatt Earp.

Posted by: JROD at September 28, 2023 09:04 AM (IlL6s)

285 Not to mention that opposing the forced EVing of the auto industry is now Marxist.

--

But the EV revolution that the government is mandating is... People will start buying them if... But... Well, something.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:05 AM (+MSSo)

286 Walked by the crowd of illegals at the N Lincoln Ave police station in Chicago yesterday. Maybe about two dozen of em. Said "buen dia" to them.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 28, 2023 09:05 AM (MvF+J)

287 How goes it up there in Meatball land?


Is DeSantis campaigning in Philly?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 09:05 AM (xTRSc)

288 Trump has already 'threatened' to massively deport the illegals.

-

Which brings us back full circle to the Republican's CR

They stripped E-Verify, which would immediately begin self-deportation. No effort needed. It would happen on its own.

And the Republicans said no, same as when Trump tried to help us.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:06 AM (+MSSo)

289 The appellate division in NYC is as left as the idiot judge who made that ridiculous decision. However if the local commercial real estate gods begin raising a stink about how bad this decision will be for them and the city , with decreased valuations, possible criminal prosecution and decreased tax revenue, the appellate division will probably overturn it. Everything in NYC, even the courts , is transactional

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 09:06 AM (cot+J)

290 Also read Trump said of Scrunton Joe: the only time his hands have gotten dirty is when he's taken Chinese money.

Or something to that effect. Great line and ties him to senator Menendez

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 28, 2023 09:07 AM (FxH7T)

291 It's probably nothing...

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 36m
China’s Evergrande Group halts trading in Hong Kong

Beleaguered property giant China Evergrande suspended trading of its shares in Hong Kong on Thursday, according to notices posted by the bourse, as the debt-ridden company grapples with severe financial difficulties.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:07 AM (krqg6)

292 And the judge pre-emptively took it from the jury before any evidence was presented to them.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 28, 2023 09:04 AM (K6vwr)

He looks like Anthony Bourgain with a fro and cheese teeth.

Posted by: The Uniparty, pissing on your head at September 28, 2023 09:08 AM (dKuyx)

293 People will start buying them if... But... Well, something.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:05 AM (+MSSo)


If they stop catching fire in the garage.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 09:08 AM (+o6KZ)

294 Costco now sells gold bars, according to CNBC.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 09:09 AM (x1eVh)

295 I saw Chistie walking g out in the beginning with the others either chewing gum or looking like he was finishing a meal. Idiot.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 28, 2023 09:09 AM (FxH7T)

296 If they stop catching fire in the garage.

-

Data is coming out.

EV drivers drive 6000 miles per year.

People drive their real cars 15K miles per year.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:10 AM (+MSSo)

297 Costco now sells gold bars, according to CNBC.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 09:09 AM (x1eVh)



No....it TAKES gold bars for beef.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 09:10 AM (Zz0t1)

298 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 53m
NEW: Vietnam court jails climate activist for tax evasion

Vietnam jailed a leading climate activist for three years for tax evasion Thursday, a sentence her family condemned as “unfair”, as the communist state ramps up a crackdown on environmentalists.

Hoang Thi Minh Hong was sentenced by a court in Ho Chi Minh City for dodging $275,000 in taxes related to her environmental campaign group CHANGE.

The 50-year-old is at least the fifth green campaigner to be jailed on tax evasion charges in the last two years — even as Vietnam’s authoritarian government seeks to amplify its attempts to cut emissions.

Her lawyer Nguyen Van Tu told AFP that in addition to the prison sentence, the court also imposed a 100 million dong ($4,000) fine.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:11 AM (krqg6)

299 174 Grammie, I'm usually cross stitching or needlepointing while watching TV so if I have to stare at it non-stop to read the words I might as well not bother. But thanks for that idea, I might try that if I'm not doing anything but laying down watching TV.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 28, 2023 09:11 AM (DBrN4)

300 BTW, the standard bag of potato chips is now 8 ounces.

3 years ago, it was 12.

But, you know: Inflation is under control.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 09:11 AM (OzHA0)

301 "Forever War" in Ukraine Could Cost Joe Biden the White House in 2024
_____

Not if we have anything to say about it!
- 28 GOP Senators on latest Ukraine appropriations bill

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 28, 2023 09:12 AM (fs1hN)

302 289 The appellate division in NYC is as left as the idiot judge who made that ridiculous decision. However if the local commercial real estate gods begin raising a stink about how bad this decision will be for them and the city , with decreased valuations, possible criminal prosecution and decreased tax revenue, the appellate division will probably overturn it. Everything in NYC, even the courts , is transactional
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What happens in the Kingdom of SoDiNY stays in the Kingdom of SoDiNY.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 28, 2023 09:12 AM (h2KMk)

303 Perrino is a Bush globalist stooge. Perfect for Fox

Posted by: Moe Howard at September 28, 2023 09:12 AM (Eqssc)

304 Hmmm, my Powerball ticket won $28 last nite, according to their site. Probably an op, but I'll try to cash it in anyway.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 28, 2023 08:58 AM (MvF+J)
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Looks like you are short about 6 zeroes, there...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 28, 2023 09:12 AM (YIVH2)

305 "Her lawyer Nguyen Van Tu told AFP that in addition to the prison sentence, the court also imposed a 100 million dong fine."

whoa...

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 28, 2023 09:12 AM (SYTee)

306 300 BTW, the standard bag of potato chips is now 8 ounces.

3 years ago, it was 12.

But, you know: Inflation is under control.
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Potato Chips are over rated.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 28, 2023 09:13 AM (h2KMk)

307 Data is coming out.

EV drivers drive 6000 miles per year.

People drive their real cars 15K miles per year.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore
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EV's are toys for the rich. They are not and never will be real cars for regular people.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at September 28, 2023 09:13 AM (dr4Q1)

308
BTW, the standard bag of potato chips is now 8 ounces.

3 years ago, it was 12.

But, you know: Inflation is under control.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 09:11 AM (OzHA0)


Fighting inflation with deflation.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 28, 2023 09:13 AM (MoZTd)

309 Her lawyer Nguyen Van Tu told AFP that in addition to the prison sentence, the court also imposed a 100 million dong ($4,000) fine.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:11 AM (krqg6)

AUTOMOVEEL?!!

Posted by: Long Duck Dong at September 28, 2023 09:13 AM (dKuyx)

310 The US economy is rigged to keep profits private while socializing losses. But, mind you, that's just the talk of a sinner who's succumbed to envy and resentment.

Posted by: Can't we get back to talking about the urgent need for capital gains tax cuts? at September 28, 2023 09:13 AM (KFhLj)

311 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
NEW: United Nations rights investigators said on Thursday they had found systemic racism against black people throughout the US policing and justice systems, and stressed the need for urgent reform.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:14 AM (krqg6)

312 Thinking about a Trump appeal a little further , the appeal might actually be heard in the ny appellate 3rd division which is Albany the state capitol. All appeals regarding government action are usually heard there. Its a little more conservative than NYC, but they might wimp out , out of fear and simply affirm the idiot judge

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 09:14 AM (cot+J)

313 Boker Tov Patriots

2 days

I hand in my computer this AM and get my DD 214
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 28, 2023 08:59 AM (/YHOn)

Congrats Cap'n !

Posted by: JT at September 28, 2023 09:14 AM (T4tVD)

314 300 BTW, the standard bag of potato chips is now 8 ounces.

3 years ago, it was 12.

But, you know: Inflation is under control.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

McDonalds sausage mcmuffin w/ egg is $4.50 today. Two years ago it was $3.00

Posted by: Breakfast with a side of inflation at September 28, 2023 09:15 AM (Eqssc)

315 BTW, the standard bag of potato chips is now 8 ounces.

3 years ago, it was 12.

But, you know: Inflation is under control.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

--

Almost half the size, price has doubled.

That's not a joke.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:15 AM (+MSSo)

316 "Hoang Thi Minh" looks like "Ho Chi Minh" with a speech impediment.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 09:15 AM (+o6KZ)

317 United Nations rights investigators said on Thursday they had found systemic racism against black people throughout the US policing and justice systems, and stressed the need for urgent reform.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:14 AM (krqg6)

You DICKS!!!!

Posted by: All of Haiti, in unison at September 28, 2023 09:15 AM (9UlRk)

318 294 Costco now sells gold bars, according to CNBC.
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In the Chinese Food section??
🧈 🧈 👨

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:15 AM (krqg6)

319 McDonalds sausage mcmuffin w/ egg is $4.50 today. Two years ago it was $3.00

-

A buddy told me he went to Taco Bell yesterday and combo meals start at $10.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:16 AM (+MSSo)

320 303 Perrino is a Bush globalist stooge. Perfect for Fox
Posted by: Moe Howard at September 28, 2023 09:12 AM (Eqssc)


Dana Perineum.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:16 AM (x0n13)

321 @302 SoDiNY is a federal court. This shit case was brought in NYS supreme CT in NYC. Supreme Court is actually the lowest or trial level court.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 09:16 AM (cot+J)

322 Good morning!

So here's another superfun consequence of the open border with Mexico: Car theft from Denver International Airport is now a business. Apparently there' a criminal ring that steal 40 trucks (preferably Ford 150s/250s or 350s) per day from the airport lots, and they are so efficient they have car-trailer trucks (like the ones used to deliver to car dealers) that they fill up, so that the trucks are loaded and on their way to Mexico within minutes - and then sold for ~$7000 in Mexico.
DIA knows about this but does not stop it, I would imagine because their security has been told not to engage and these are bad dudes (cartel?).

Isn't that special? It's not enough that Biden is finding new and exciting ways to devalue our currency and tax everything to pay for Ukraine, now we have to deal with organize theft rings, both foreign and domestic, stealing or property or the property of our favorite local stores with a green light from those who are paid to protect us.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2023 09:16 AM (izj35)

323 He (DeSantis) tries/they (MOL) try. Otherwise, support in the state stinks.

Pennsylvania Capital-Star, July 1, in part:

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis brings his presidential pitch to Philadelphia. The Republican presidential candidate spoke at the Moms for Liberty summit on Friday morning

PHILADELPHIA — Parental rights proponents, presidential candidates and protesters were all out in full force as The Moms for Liberty summit kicked off its first full day in Philadelphia Friday to a mix of faithful fans and outspoken opponents.

The controversial, self-described parental rights group is hosting its second annual convention just blocks away from the birthplace of liberty – just days before the nation celebrates its independence.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis took the stage as the event’s first main speaker Friday morning, bringing his presidential campaign – much of which is centered on rhetoric against what he called the “woke agenda” – to this key battleground state.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at September 28, 2023 09:16 AM (GshMh)

324 Dana Perineum.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:16 AM (x0n13)



That taint right.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 09:17 AM (Zz0t1)

325 300 BTW, the standard bag of potato chips is now 8 ounces.

3 years ago, it was 12.

But, you know: Inflation is under control.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 28, 2023 09:11 AM (OzHA0)


That looks like deflation ...

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at September 28, 2023 09:17 AM (+o6KZ)

326 The UN can eff right off. Its high past time for us to withdraw from that nest of vipers and kick it out of our country.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 09:18 AM (xTRSc)

327 Dong dong blue
Weepin' like a willow

Posted by: neil diamond at September 28, 2023 09:18 AM (krqg6)

328 NGU put your DD214 with your COVID vaccination card. You'll need them again later.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 28, 2023 09:18 AM (RIvkX)

329 Trump did not support McDaniel over Dhillon.
Link in nic.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken


Oh, but he did.

“I am pleased to announce that I have given my full support and endorsement to Ronna McDaniel to continue heading the Republican National Committee (RNC). With 72 MILLION votes, we received more votes than any sitting President in U.S. history - and we will win!” Trump said in a tweet.

https://tinyurl.com/23fwbjer

Posted by: Archimedes at September 28, 2023 09:18 AM (I/Qkd)

330 It's funny because I remember discussing here during the $15/hour push that combo meals are a great indicator for actual wealth and value.

They're *always* 2/3rds to 100% of the minimum wage. Things are wacky because of inflation, but we're watching it all settle out exactly like everyone knew it would.

And poor old people who saved their entire lives, lived modestly, planned appropriately, and happily retired on $50K/year are completely screwed.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:18 AM (+MSSo)

331 Isn't that special? It's not enough that Biden is finding new and exciting ways to devalue our currency and tax everything to pay for Ukraine, now we have to deal with organize theft rings, both foreign and domestic, stealing or property or the property of our favorite local stores with a green light from those who are paid to protect us.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2023 09:16 AM (izj35)
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Denver's already nasty car insurance rates are going to get nastier. No biggie. Just a cost of doing business in the Mile High City.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 28, 2023 09:18 AM (t0OGg)

332 311 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
NEW: United Nations rights investigators said on Thursday they had found systemic racism against black people throughout the US policing and justice systems, and stressed the need for urgent reform.
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The positive in this news is Yankee Land will burn much faster and sooner. I will enjoy this. How many more Target stores need to be burned before we get justice? Same for Footlocker and Weave stores.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 28, 2023 09:19 AM (h2KMk)

333 Sadly, hardly any talk about the debates, or Trump’s speech, over at DU. I know none of them WATCHED, of course, but I figured they'd all parrot the talking points circulating on TikTok, Threads, Mastodon, and whatever other Lefty NPC download sites they use.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 28, 2023 09:20 AM (JCZqz)

334 You know what Compton needs? A blue-helmeted peace-keeping force to enforce civil rights.

Posted by: Kurt Waldheim's Talking Corpse at September 28, 2023 09:20 AM (KFhLj)

335 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
BREAKING: Germany and Israel announce signing of 'historic' Arrow 3 missile defense system deal.

🚀 🚀

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:20 AM (krqg6)

336 And if that wasn't enough, the institutionalized cheat apparatus is more than likely going to put whoever the Democrat candidate is over the top with millions more fake ballots, quadruple counted ballots, dead voters, multiple voters, multiple dead voters and on and on and on.

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The illegal alien vote alone -- including "chain migration mail-in ballots" from all their relatives still south of the border but making their way here -- will put another Vegetable-Puppet into the White House in 2024 with over 300 million votes ballots!

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 28, 2023 09:20 AM (2O5Io)

337
Did you see the clip of Biden getting in a union guy's face about guns, angrily calling the guy "full of shit!"

Biden is a truly vile scumbag.

https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/status/1707165475958829215

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:20 AM (x0n13)

338 Trump did not support McDaniel over Dhillon.
Link in nic.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Oh, but he did.


I'll concede that he didn't endorse her over Dhillon, but those who argue that he hasn't endorsed McDaniel are just wrong.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 28, 2023 09:21 AM (I/Qkd)

339 Thanks JJ !

AGAIN !!!

Posted by: JT at September 28, 2023 09:21 AM (T4tVD)

340 337 Is that a new one, or is it old?

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 28, 2023 09:21 AM (MvF+J)

341 Ben Edtl
@benedtl

Our girls are at risk in Oregon Schools. This attack happened at Hazlebrook Middle School in the Tigard Tualatin School District in Oregon. What you're seeing is a large boy, who identifies as a girl ambush a smaller girl from behind. Both of these children are the victims of the adults that run this school district. So far, neither the district or the
school has given parents any answers. This is #oregon #orpol #ttsd

https://tinyurl.com/ryr7d8bh

Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 09:22 AM (NpAcC)

342 >>Denver's already nasty car insurance rates are going to get nastier. No biggie. Just a cost of doing business in the Mile High City.


Denver has been the #1 city for car theft apart from DIA.
At least they have finally fixed the law related to it that used the value of the car determine the penalty, thus providing an incentive to steal older, cheaper cars (i.e. from the poorest, least able to recover from a car theft). Apparently the police (not sure if they were Denver or Aurora) has arrested some in that DIA theft ring -- and then released them.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2023 09:22 AM (izj35)

343 Biden is showing his lizard self through that thin skin. Maybe he's shedding?

Posted by: Eromero at September 28, 2023 09:22 AM (z3WCn)

344 321 @302 SoDiNY is a federal court. This shit case was brought in NYS supreme CT in NYC. Supreme Court is actually the lowest or trial level court.
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You said NYC, rite? Its SoDiNY no matter how you slice it.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 28, 2023 09:22 AM (h2KMk)

345 Sadly, hardly any talk about the debates, or Trump’s speech, over at DU. I know none of them WATCHED, of course, but I figured they'd all parrot the talking points circulating on TikTok, Threads, Mastodon, and whatever other Lefty NPC download sites they use.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 28, 2023 09:20 AM (JCZqz)

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They're likely still drunk celebrating, cheering for, and envisioning the feral government nationalizing all of Trump's businesses and leaving him and his family penniless.

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 28, 2023 09:23 AM (2O5Io)

346 337
Did you see the clip of Biden getting in a union guy's face about guns, angrily calling the guy "full of shit!"

Biden is a truly vile scumbag.

https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/status/1707165475958829215
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:20 AM (x0n13)


UPDATE: Old link but it is emblematic for sure.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:23 AM (x0n13)

347 Biden is a truly vile scumbag.

https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/status/1707165475958829215
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:20 AM (x0n13)

"Well, just have the asshole swan in and shake a few hands and say a few words, then get him out of there. "

*one hour later*

".... he said WHAT!?!?! Fucking hell, he was only there for like three minutes!!! Dammit. Call Pierre. This is her problem now."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 28, 2023 09:24 AM (9UlRk)

348 While as of this writing the nomination will more than likely be his, he too seems to be operating in a manner that kind of borders on cluelessness, considering that the entire weight of the instrumentalities of a weaponized government are about to crash down on his shoulders.

.. this is what drives Democrats crazy

Posted by: SMOD at September 28, 2023 09:24 AM (RovqD)

349 Hey momma weer all marxists now!!!

Posted by: Quiet Riot at September 28, 2023 09:25 AM (Zz0t1)

350 342 >>Denver's already nasty car insurance rates are going to get nastier. No biggie. Just a cost of doing business in the Mile High City.
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My niece's husband works in Charlotte in the Financial Industry. They've been working remotely but are required to come in. He wisely bought a beater of a car to ward off the losses of having to work around vibrancy. This is Charlotte, NC. It was never this way until recently.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 28, 2023 09:25 AM (h2KMk)

351 I did not watch, but I understand that Gavin had a good night.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 28, 2023 09:26 AM (44ww/)

352
UPDATE: Old link but it is emblematic for sure.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:23 AM (x0n13)



Big balls in cow town right there.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 09:26 AM (Zz0t1)

353 335 Who’s getting the defense system, the Israelis or the Krauts?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 28, 2023 09:26 AM (xTRSc)

354 J6 victim strikes back:

The Lectern Guy @lecternleader 21h
Meet the guy who prosecuted me in Tampa for walking in a building on January 6th.

My crimes were so egregious that he demanded I wear an ankle monitor, be drugged tested at random, surrender my passports, be restricted to middle district of Florida, and given a nightly curfew.

What restrictions do you think he should get for stabbing a man repeatedly in public?

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:27 AM (krqg6)

355 F Biden and the Democrats.

Cover of today's New York Post.

https://tinyurl.com/33aa8ewu

Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 09:28 AM (NpAcC)

356 @344 actually no . SoDiNY is federal, they won't hear anything about this case until it works it way through NYS courts. First nys supreme (where it is now), the appellate division (3rd or 1st), then NYS Court of Appeals

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 28, 2023 09:28 AM (cot+J)

357
https://tinyurl.com/ryr7d8bh
Posted by: redridinghood at September 28, 2023 09:22 AM (NpAcC)



This is normal and you shouldn't question it. gods will. Just ask a liberal.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 09:28 AM (Zz0t1)

358 UPDATE: Old link but it is emblematic for sure.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2023 09:23 AM (x0n13)
============
He says one truthful thing in that tremendous clip: "I don't work for you"

Biden sells out Americans every day.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 09:28 AM (konL5)

359 ============
He says one truthful thing in that tremendous clip: "I don't work for you"

Biden sells out Americans every day.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 09:28 AM (konL5)



He caught himself. He said "I don't work...."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 09:29 AM (Zz0t1)

360 #353 The Arrow or Hetz (Hebrew: חֵץ, pronounced [ˈχet͡s]) is a family of anti-ballistic missiles designed to fulfill an Israeli requirement for a missile defense system that would be more effective against ballistic missiles than the MIM-104 Patriot surface-to-air missile. Jointly funded and produced by Israel and the United States, development of the system began in 1986 and has continued since, drawing some contested criticism.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:29 AM (krqg6)

361 The "then what?" in solving this self-inflicted crisis is really quite easy. No welfare, no social services, no work permits. They will go home on their own. But the intestinal fortitude isn't there on the right, and the left want them here.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 28, 2023 08:11 AM (mupln)



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My grandparents met shortly after arriving in america. Speaking little english my grandfather dug graves for his living. When did it become the standard for America to provide shelter and food for immigrants??

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 28, 2023 09:30 AM (0uQp2)

362 >>Ben Edtl
@benedtl

Our girls are at risk in Oregon Schools. This attack happened at Hazlebrook Middle School in the Tigard Tualatin School District in Oregon. What you're seeing is a large boy, who identifies as a girl ambush a smaller girl from behind. Both of these children are the victims of the adults that run this school district. So far, neither the district or the
school has given parents any answers. This is #oregon #orpol #ttsd

https://tinyurl.com/ryr7d8bh


Backlash coming.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 28, 2023 09:30 AM (rJ48h)

363 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 28, 2023 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

364 SNOOD art

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:30 AM (krqg6)

365 What restrictions do you think he should get for stabbing a man repeatedly in public?
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 28, 2023 09:27 AM (krqg6)
===

Well, he's with us, so...

Posted by: The Junta at September 28, 2023 09:31 AM (RIvkX)

366 Biden's popularity is hovering around the same as Captain Crunch "Oops Too Many Spiders!"

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 28, 2023 09:31 AM (44ww/)

367 356 @344 actually no . SoDiNY is federal, they won't hear anything about this case until it works it way through NYS courts. First nys supreme (where it is now), the appellate division (3rd or 1st), then NYS Court of Appeals
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Yeah, I get it, but it is NYC. You are assuming NY is a state. I do not make that assumption. I see it as a satrap of Manhattan. The Golden Rule is in place - those with the gold make the rules. NY is a tax farm, watershed and landfill for NYC.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 28, 2023 09:32 AM (h2KMk)

368 353 335 Who’s getting the defense system, the Israelis or the Krauts?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Israel sending missiles to Deutschland. Payback is a bitch.

Posted by: Ups, ich habe es wieder getan at September 28, 2023 09:34 AM (Eqssc)

369 Tigard Tualatin School District in Oregon

Sounds like a name from WoT or LOTR.

Posted by: pookysgirl, fantasy fan at September 28, 2023 09:40 AM (dtlDP)

370 I'm guessing they're through fooling around, and next time they'll be serious.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 08:50 AM (+MSSo)

Maybe it's time for them to FAFO. Sooner or later, the rubber band WILL snap.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at September 28, 2023 09:43 AM (Zvtjl)

371 And poor old people who saved their entire lives, lived modestly, planned appropriately, and happily retired on $50K/year are completely screwed.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 28, 2023 09:18 AM (+MSSo)

**waves**

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at September 28, 2023 09:47 AM (Zvtjl)

372 Ron "I'm not running for President, it's a book tour" Desantis is more phony, and a bigger liar.

Posted by: DOYLE at September 28, 2023 09:57 AM (Z8Yh2)

373 "with the exception of Ron DeSantis..."

WTF? Respectfully disagree.

Posted by: mossomo at September 28, 2023 09:58 AM (FVGLF)

374 Our girls are at risk in Oregon Schools. This attack happened at Hazlebrook Middle School in the Tigard Tualatin School District in Oregon. What you're seeing is a large boy, who identifies as a girl ambush a smaller girl from behind. Both of these children are the victims of the adults that run this school district. So far, neither the district or the
school has given parents any answers. This is #oregon #orpol #ttsd

https://tinyurl.com/ryr7d8bh


Backlash coming.
Posted by: mr tmz at September 28, 2023 09:30 AM (rJ48h)

I swear to God, if I was that girl's father, that bastard who attacked her would disappear. Forever. There is no way, no way I would hesitate.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at September 28, 2023 10:01 AM (Zvtjl)

375 While Desantis seemed promising awhile back, best I can tell he chose establishment advisors, paid the price and is no better than rest at debate.

Posted by: DavidH at September 28, 2023 10:02 AM (LfE+L)

376 Finally. A globalist republican has an energy plan!

DeSantis' plan is brilliant regarding development of hydrocarbon energy. Except one thing: he is funded by the Bush clan who is now selling Permian LNG to Europe at a 700% profit.

W Bush purposely did NOT further develop hydrocarbon energy.

TRUMP DID which is partly the reason they kicked him out.

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 28, 2023 10:04 AM (klw0w)

377 Yes ! Continue with the Biden bashing it . May result in a more electable nominee

Posted by: Paul at September 28, 2023 10:14 AM (JVAak)

378 Oddly enough Republicans seem to want to have debates that are set up to allow the cheapest and and most lazy participants to look good. With easy questions, well laid out order. I personally think that having the stage set to be difficult is a plus for our side, as it means that the person who is going to shine is going to be able to shine even when the shooting starts. All the best laid plans fall apart the with the first shot... Anyone recall these words of wisdom anymore? The person who wins the nomination is going to have to go head to head against the Democrat and the super biased media and is going to have to be able to shine doing it to win the general election. And you want to somehow set the stage for an easy coronation?

Posted by: astonerii at September 28, 2023 10:17 AM (VcZlJ)

379 Very glad I couldn't watch the shit show last night, but I did watch Trump. If I had heard that friggin biatch speak in Espanol, I might have called up the only Dem friend I have and asked her to translate.

Posted by: sidney at September 28, 2023 10:17 AM (Uy/WF)

380 "Trump had backed Harmeet Dhillon instead of Ronna Romney McDaniel to be chairman of the RNC. You just have to shake your head at that."

Agree, but here is the same thing Trump was looking at: there are 168 RNC members and over 150 endorsed Romney, nobody else had a chance. 1/3 of ours in MN endorsed Harmeet.

If I were Trump I would go along and pick another battle.

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 28, 2023 10:21 AM (klw0w)

381 The guy couldn't even rally at an actual union shop, lol.

Posted by: CP at September 28, 2023 10:26 AM (whbu7)

382 DeSantis is the Same Old Mitch-Money Sell-Out.

Yeah, he'll toss out some Bubba Bait to fool the rubes, but he'll always tow the Corporate Fascist line when it matters.

If they don't hate your guts, you're not MAGA.

TRUMP 2023!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 28, 2023 10:40 AM (Ndje9)

383 In fact Trump didn't actually endorse Romney. He said he knew both women, liked both women, and could work with either one.

Posted by: KY Lurker at September 28, 2023 10:41 AM (oy/FL)

384 In fact Trump didn't actually endorse Romney. He said he knew both women, liked both women, and could work with either one.
Posted by: KY Lurker at September 28, 2023 10:41 AM (oy/FL)
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Lets not ignore direct quotes that destroy this claim. Look at @329.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 11:10 AM (B+dzh)

385 DeSantis is the Same Old Mitch-Money Sell-Out.
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I'm not a DeSantis supporter (yet), but this is bullshit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 28, 2023 11:11 AM (B+dzh)

386 Was it simply the first step to government supplying those addicts with their preferred drug?

Part of me would be entirely fine with doing this. Build a sanitarium, sterilize them, provide them with access to treatment options to kick the drug should they choose to avail themselves of the option but otherwise give them all they want until they're no longer a burden on society.

I can see the logic in the argument that broken people won't get fixed by treating their flaws as a crime. Further, broken people cannot be made to become whole. Not by anyone this side of God's throne, at any rate.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 28, 2023 11:14 AM (z99Zw)

387 The disclaimers are silly. You're obviously a Trump partisan, just own it.

Posted by: RichieC at September 28, 2023 11:18 AM (DxBF0)

388 I think we all keep waiting and watching for the uncompromised parts of our judiciary to put and end to these politically motivated court rulings of leftist judges by overturning them. That stated, where the fuck are they and why haven't they acted yet? And in typical limp-dick fashion, the House G.O.P. (who can impeach and remove judges) has made a grand total of 0 attempts to impeach ANYONE in this criminal administration.
As much as I despise the Left and Democrats, I absolutely hate the Republicans. Worthless, country club, shitbag human beings! I'll excuse Matt Gaetz and MTG. At least they are trying. Get rid of McCarthy and the whole House leadership. They are fucking useless!!

Posted by: Tracy at September 28, 2023 11:34 AM (x58Cx)

389 Yeah, yeah Biden is beyond execrable. He was a rat bastard even when he still had his faculties and he’s arguably worse now he’s losing them. I know Trump was re-shoring both capital and jobs that had fled overseas. The economy was booming and we were finally becoming energy independent. Many good things. Yuge. I voted for him twice and I expect I will again.

That said, Trump’s actions in and out of office make more sense if you assume he is just following the script. Remember all the vicious opprobrium Obama threw at W, to his continued silence? See pictures of them now, smiling and laughing together? I think there’s a running script to this play, and we all get screwed in the final act.

Posted by: Advo at September 28, 2023 11:35 AM (VHN21)

390 388 the house can recommend impeachment to the senate. Only the Senate can remove someone through impeachment.

Posted by: astonerii at September 28, 2023 12:48 PM (VcZlJ)

391 Uniparty sport... The Debate Bowls... they love this garbage.

It's Trump vs The Uniparty. Stop drinking the left vs right propaganda koolaid.

Posted by: Mike N Ikes at September 28, 2023 01:03 PM (Cw/7l)

392 So Ronna is on the sinking RNC ship. If Trump's endorsement kept her onboard, then, in light of that, Trump's endorsement looks shrewd.

Posted by: Coki at September 28, 2023 01:07 PM (QviPA)

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