Food Thread: Woven Food..Chicken With Cheese? What's The World Coming To?

Challah is a bread traditionally served on holidays, including Shabbat, so it is by no means seasonal. It is nothing more than an egg bread or brioche, with the traditional extra step of weaving it into a nice looking loaf.

Fun stuff, relatively easy to make, and as long as you don't add too much sugar and turn it into a cake (and incur the wrath of the Talmudic scholars among us), all will be well.

In fact, rumor has it that challah makes fantastic French Toast!

I am tempted to make one soon. I haven't for a very long time, and the price of them has skyrocketed. But if I do bake one it will be with IBGuy's wife's recipe. He used to brag to me all of the time about how wonderful her challah (and she) was!

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[Hat Tip: Dr. No]
From the communist-genocide-defending NY Times comes a hilariously innumerate article about their favorite culture destroying topic...cutting greenhouse emissions to save the planet (and kill lots and lots of people!).

For Many Big Food Companies, Emissions Head in the Wrong Direction [Here's a PDF if you don't want to give them any traffic]

Five years ago McDonald’s said it planned to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by more than a third in parts of its operations by 2030. A few years later, it pledged to be “net zero” — cutting emissions to as close to zero as possible — by 2050.
But in its most recent report, McDonald’s disclosed that things were moving in the wrong direction: The company’s emissions in 2021 were 12 percent higher than its 2015 baseline.
McDonald’s is hardly alone. An examination of various climate-related reports and filings for 20 of the world’s largest food and restaurant companies reveals that more than half have not made any progress on their emissions reduction goals or have reported rising emissions levels.
The bulk of emissions — in many cases more than 90 percent — come from the companies’ supply chains. In other words, the cows and wheat used to make burgers and cereal.
And while companies have worked to eliminate some plastic in packaging and reduce water use to make their products more sustainable, many large food and beverage companies and restaurant chains are struggling to balance their robust growth in recent years with their climate goals.

They seem to be conflating the raising of cows and wheat with the total supply chain, which is a bit of a sleight of hand. And...do they take into account the amount of CO₂ consumed by that wheat? I doubt it.

But the big issue is that they trivialize the idea of growth, making it subordinate to cutting emissions. But growth is what pulls people out of poverty, and to me and other sentient beings who actually care about humanity, that is damned important...certainly more important than satisfying the virtue-signaling of a bunch of smug, pompous assholes living in luxury buildings on the Upper West Side of Manhattan and summering in the Hamptons.

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What? No! I do not have corn on the brain!

Corn has been quite good this season, at least around here. Lots of rain, then lots of sunshine and very moderate temperatures seem to be good for the corn crop. Which is good for me, because I think that corn is mighty tasty.

Sagaponack Corn Pudding from Ina Garten looks like fun. We are at the end of the season, so I want to go out with a bang (pop?) and make something fun with the last of the corn.

There isn't anything out of the ordinary in the recipe, but I do like the addition of Ricotta for some extra creaminess.

We'll see how it goes with some leftover brisket from last week!

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Homemade Mexican Salsas from Cowboy Kent Rollins.

He knows his sh*t. Don't be fooled by his "aw shucks" demeanor. The man can cook. Just because his food isn't fussy doesn't mean that it isn't pleasing and complex.

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After many months of putting my fingers in my ears to drown out the nagging pleas of "we really need an air fryer! Why are you a luddite?" I gave in, did some research and bought one. And you know? It's a well made piece of equipment that seems to be well designed. The controls are intuitive, it's easy to clean, and it holds a surprising amount of food.

Except...it's just a convection oven with a fast fan. I think I can duplicate most things in my conventional convection oven with a sheet pan and a rack. That is not to say that it is a waste of money. For one or two people who don't want to fire up an oven, it makes sense, and it does heat up very quickly, which is a big advantage during frantic weeknight meal prep.

Maybe I will stumble upon a dish or recipe that elevates it to something special, but until that happens I will reserve my cheers and whoops!

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This looks delicious! I just wish the Brits would speak proper English. What the hell is a "hob?" Yeah, from the context it's the cook top, but still. Speak English Man! Although I do like the term "knob" for a piece of butter. It suggests large quantities, which is the way butter should be used.
Roast chicken with comté mushroom sauce
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The oyster imperative remains in effect, especially now that we are in the summer months. Yup, I'm not afraid of oysters in the summer! (Except that my usual source was sold out, so I am an oysterless Dildo, and you know how bad that is!) And send pork rib roasts from the front end of the pig where all the good and fatty meat lives, carrots that don't taste like stalky chalk, garlic...lots of garlic! (but no basil! My basil is not doing well this year!), well-marbled NY strip steaks and elk backstrap to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

And don't think that the rest of you are off the hook with maple syrup and French Toast: I'm still watching you! And I am watching you perverts who shake Manhattans and keeping a list for the Burning Times.

And yes, I used to demand fancy bourbon, but let's face it, $1,200 for a bottle of bourbon is just stupid, insulting, and a ghastly affront to most people's palates and wallets. I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

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1 They look good

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2023 04:00 PM (fwDg9)

2 FOOD glorious food

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 04:00 PM (geLO8)

3 Can't stay. Soon as game ends got to go get some food.

Posted by: From about that Time at September 24, 2023 04:01 PM (4780s)

4 Probably just a hamburger inside for me

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2023 04:03 PM (fwDg9)

5 I can go now.

Posted by: From about that Time at September 24, 2023 04:04 PM (4780s)

6 Last Week In Food

I tried a different store-bought pizza dough, brand name Jus-Rol, it's a rectangle pizza dough that comes with its own parchment paper. Pepperoni and onion. Came out great. Crust was flavorful and just the right amount of chewy. Now all I have to do is tinker with sauces and toppings to dial in my perfect pizza.

Seriously upped my pancake game with genuine maple syrup. Yesterday morning's pancakes were fluffy and golden brown. I can make pancakes.

Received thru Amazon a jar of Marmite. Basically the same stuff as Vegemite, but from the UK. This will elevate my morning toast and coffee routine.

Eat well, my friends.

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 04:05 PM (geLO8)

7 Brits love socca.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2023 04:05 PM (63Dwl)

8 Yonder food horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 24, 2023 04:07 PM (Q4IgG)

9 I've made challah. It's not particularly easy, but it's not all that difficult.

It is lovely hot out of the oven with butter and honey. Or torn apart and dunked into homemade chicken soup.

Or day old, sliced and used for French toast.

I like mine with sesame seeds.

Posted by: nurse ratched, Sea Otter Awareness Week is Sept 24-30! at September 24, 2023 04:09 PM (U2p+3)

10 Made fish Veracruz for tha Lil Puddin head babys birfday dinner last night. Used some different types of cherry tomatoes and some high end capers and castlevatano olives and fresh red snapper. Instead of baking the fish and the veggies in the oven I did the fish onside on the flat top and the veggies in the cast iron skillet then combined them at the end. Served with a few slices of toasted olive bread made with the same type of olives. It was a home run.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2023 04:10 PM (YRsIm)

11 There isn't anything out of the ordinary in the recipe, but I do like the addition of Ricotta for some extra creaminess.

I just don't like Ricotta. I'm sure I'm in the minority on that.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2023 04:12 PM (V8he0)

12 I bought an air fryer to do my chicken wings and baking. 6

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 04:12 PM (Iahxz)

13 Sorry to go OT but Miami is crushing Denver 70-20. Unreal.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2023 04:14 PM (V8he0)

14 I made a number of batches of hotsauce this year from tomatoes, with a varying amount of chilies. And that is from several to several handfulls. It was a good year for tomatoes and chilies.

I have lots of the chilies still on the bushes, once the rains are done for the weekend, I will go and pick them and try fermenting them for chili sauce. I find that if I just take everything from the thai to the twist peppers and ferment them together they do just fine.
Last year I fermented a quart jar full, which blended down to be a half quart, which my wife and I ate up within a week.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2023 04:15 PM (xhaym)

15 Tonight is chicken noodle soup, roast chicken in mustard dill sauce on a bed of carrots and potatoes, kasha with mushrooms, dessert is pear cake.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2023 04:16 PM (RIvkX)

16 We have a Ninja Foodi 5-in-1 that is an air fryer, grill, oven, and dehydrator. There are just the two of us so we use it a lot instead of firing up our large convection oven. On a day-to-day basis, the air fryer function is great for toasting English muffins or bagels and cooking sausages. It's exceptional for reheating pizza or fried foods.

We have a big outside grill but I still use the Ninja grill for small servings of fish or burgers. Works great.

We've made jerky and dried apples with the dehydrator and they were great, but not really cost effective.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 24, 2023 04:19 PM (fTtFy)

17 Just looked when was outside, I have a good amount of hotter peppers but none ripening. They are in mini greenhouse so will survive a light freeze in a month.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2023 04:19 PM (fwDg9)

18 Except...it's just a convection oven with a fast fan. I think I can duplicate most things in my conventional convection oven with a sheet pan and a rack.

Agree. After being hounded by my daughter, I got an air fryer two years ago. Used it three times. Meh. Takes up too much counter space, so it has been exiled to the pantry closet.

Posted by: jix at September 24, 2023 04:19 PM (VghtP)

19 As a Ute working in a restaurant, I used to make the bread and biscuits and chicken in the Blodgett oven. I can still hear Lou, my boss and an old skool WOP, hollering to “check the blodgett!” to see if the items inside were done. The Blodgett Oven Co. made those convection ovens back in the day, which the little air fryers nowadays take after.

Oh look, Martini Time! One olive only please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2023 04:19 PM (R/m4+)

20 Mrs. F. made challah filled with apricots and cherries this year it was teh bomb.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2023 04:20 PM (RIvkX)

21 We have the youngest grandkids with us this weekend so there's a lot of Mac and cheese, chicken tenders, fish sticks and pizza happening here. I'm gonna devastate what's left of my stash of fruits of the pig and stinky cheese.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2023 04:21 PM (YRsIm)

22 I gave in and bought a NurtiMill grain grinder. I have an old Corona hand cranked mill. I have the Kitchen Aid mill attachment. My Kitchen Aid may be fixed and I did buy a second one for a backup, but I just wanted a real mill. I would love to have a CountryLiving mill again but can't justify the cost. This is an impact mill and seems to do a good job. I ran the two cups of wheat through it to clean it, then ground up more of the wheat for flour. (Using some white winter wheat.) It's a good loaf of bread, rose well using my sourdough starter. I have 100 pounds of wheat coming in from South Dakota this week, from a farmer that does heritage wheat. I may buy more from him. It's nice to deal directly with someone.

The Amazon reviews made me a bit hesitant but the mill is quieter than my Vitamix and did not leak any flour at all.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 04:23 PM (Ds/Wi)

23 As cooler weather approaches, I plan to do more baking. One of the things I want to try is manoushe, a Lebanese flatbread with a good covering of Zaatar. This was a staple, courtesy of my grandparents, growing up. It is delicious and goes so well with other Lebanese and Mediterranean dishes.

I've been using the zaatar we get from The Spice House on eggs, baked spuds, and as a bread dip when mixed with good olive oil. It's becoming as versatile as Aleppo pepper in my cooking.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2023 04:24 PM (7EjX1)

24 I've made challah. It's not particularly easy, but it's not all that difficult.

It is lovely hot out of the oven with butter and honey. ...

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She put a ton of honey in the batter. And yes, more honey on top is pre-approved.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2023 04:24 PM (RIvkX)

25 We have the youngest grandkids with us this weekend so there's a lot of Mac and cheese, chicken tenders, fish sticks and pizza happening here. I'm gonna devastate what's left of my stash of fruits of the pig and stinky cheese.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2023 04:21 PM (YRsIm)
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'Are you going to finish that macaroni?"
-CoJ

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2023 04:26 PM (RIvkX)

26 San Franpsycho that sounds almost Amish

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2023 04:26 PM (fwDg9)

27 Zaatar is tasty stuff! I got some from a local restaurant and started buying the spice on my own. I have some Parmesean and Romano cheese on the way, and got an order of long term food storage and dried fruit this week. And more honey. I am trying to build up the gaps in my food storage, but don't want to focus on the expensive long term stuff.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 04:27 PM (Ds/Wi)

28 McDonalds sausage patty is 1/4 " thick now and the biskit brings to $2. Six those puppies being $12.28 U.S. Not hardly worth it. But they have fairly clean bathrooms, at least in ETEX.

Posted by: Eromero at September 24, 2023 04:28 PM (z3WCn)

29 Takes up too much counter space, so it has been exiled to the pantry closet.
Posted by: jix at September 24, 2023 04:19
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We got the Ninja Digital Air Fryer/Oven. It flips up sacrificing little counter space. It went where the toaster was. Use it all the time for veggies, fish, brats and toast/bagels. Still learning.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 24, 2023 04:31 PM (ju2Fy)

30 I've been using the zaatar we get from The Spice House on eggs, baked spuds, and as a bread dip when mixed with good olive oil. It's becoming as versatile as Aleppo pepper in my cooking.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2023 04:24 PM (7EjX1)
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I personally wouldn't patronize any business that has had Bill Penzey's grubby mitts anywhere near it, but you do you.

Posted by: ballistic at September 24, 2023 04:31 PM (oXNqT)

31 There’s a Lebanese fried chicken place in the Los Angeles region, Zankou Chicken, that does great rotisserie chicken. But what really sets them apart is their garlic sauce. It is incomparable to anything I’ve had elsewhere. The recipe is secret, but my friends and I are convinced it includes chicken fat.

Checking on their website, they claim it’s vegetable oil. Possibly it’s changed—I haven’t been there in a few years. Possibly we were wrong, of course. Possibly the recipe has changed due to family drama (look up Zankou Chicken murders for a typical Los Angeles family store) as well. My recollection is that they used to run out toward the end of the day, and this was supposedly because the grandmother made it and it was delivered to each location at the beginning of the day. When they ran out, they couldn’t make more.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 24, 2023 04:31 PM (EXyHK)

32 DB with the Marmite, truly sophisticated.

Posted by: Eromero at September 24, 2023 04:32 PM (z3WCn)

33 20 Mrs. F. made challah filled with apricots and cherries this year it was teh bomb.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2023 04:20 PM (RIvkX)

Oooo, that sounds delicious! My daughter has difficulty eating and I started making a no-knead fruit bread that she really enjoys. With a variety of dried fruit, she actually gets some nourishment from it. But challah with fruit would be even better, with the enriched dough. If your lovely wife would care to share her recipe, I would be most grateful!!

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 04:32 PM (JrN/x)

34 Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2023 04:26 PM (RIvkX)

I'd gladly share it with you. Made the Mac-n-cheese with real cheese and torched the top to get it crusty, then threw some bits of pan fried panchetta on top.

It was summarily poo poo'd. So they got the K Roger boxed stuff and some sliced up hot dogs instead. Pounded it down like nobody's business.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2023 04:32 PM (YRsIm)

35 And CBD, your brisket recipe from last week is bomb, full stop!

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 04:32 PM (JrN/x)

36 Just watched the Ravens game with the kid (he asked to watch - 1st NFL game he ever watched, and refs robbed them - he was ultimately just happy it ended)...but I digress...

Food here became simpler when I knew I was gonna be watching and explaining football, so it's burgers, hash brown sticks (an Aldi frozen aisle clearance - they had a good one this week), roasted brussel sprouts with onion and bacon bits, and strawberries and clementines.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 04:33 PM (exHjb)

37 CHALLAH BREAD ... I lke to use it for poultry stuffings and dressings.

Posted by: Kathy at September 24, 2023 04:33 PM (XUe78)

38 Spice House is NOT Bill Penzy. It's the sister who keeps her business politics free. Spice House was started by their parents. Penzy's was his spin off

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 04:34 PM (Ds/Wi)

39 My wife decided to try this weird pasta tonight. Rotini, but it's made out of chickpeas. Will be "interesting." Probably doesn't taste much different than normal pasta.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 24, 2023 04:34 PM (Q4IgG)

40 Ribs tonight. Made macaroni salad yesterday to go with them today, but wife and daughter ate it last night. Figuring out substitute. Probably seasoned potato wedges in the air fryer.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 24, 2023 04:34 PM (ju2Fy)

41 I really like my air dryer for doing fish. Much less smell and mess in the kitchen. I'd keep it around for that alone.

Posted by: The Neon Madman at September 24, 2023 04:35 PM (yNfcm)

42 22 ... "I gave in and bought a NurtiMill grain grinder. "

notsothoreau,
Which model grinder did you get?

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2023 04:35 PM (7EjX1)

43 38 Spice House is NOT Bill Penzy. It's the sister who keeps her business politics free. Spice House was started by their parents. Penzy's was his spin off
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 04:34 PM (Ds/Wi)
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I stand corrected. I saw the name and didn't realize there was a Bill Penzey, Sr. who I can only hope is nowhere near as much of an absolute knob as his son.

Posted by: ballistic at September 24, 2023 04:35 PM (oXNqT)

44 30 ... "I personally wouldn't patronize any business that has had Bill Penzey's grubby mitts anywhere near it, but you do you."

The Spice House company we use is NOT Penzey's. It was always by a different part (i. e., sane) part of the family. They sold it a few years ago but the new owners have maintained the excellent quality of the spices.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2023 04:38 PM (7EjX1)

45 And CBD, your brisket recipe from last week is bomb, full stop!

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 04:32 PM (JrN/x)

Huzzah!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2023 04:39 PM (lQONO)

46 Penzy's was his spin off

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 04:34 PM (Ds/Wi)

Yup. Bill Penzey Jr. is an amazing asshole. I wouldn't cross the street to piss on him if he were on fire.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2023 04:41 PM (lQONO)

47 39 My wife decided to try this weird pasta tonight. Rotini, but it's made out of chickpeas. Will be "interesting." Probably doesn't taste much different than normal pasta.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 24, 2023 04:34 PM (Q4IgG)

I've seen the chickpea pasta. I'm sure it's fine, but I look at fake pasta like I do fake meat and fake cheese. I'd probably rather make a risotto if I wanted gluten free pasta. And if I wanted just fewer carbs, I'd make way more veg/sauce and just add in less pasta (which is normally the path I do around here)...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 04:41 PM (exHjb)

48 40 Ribs tonight. Made macaroni salad yesterday to go with them today, but wife and daughter ate it last night. Figuring out substitute. Probably seasoned potato wedges in the air fryer.
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 24, 2023 04:34 PM (ju2Fy)

You could make it again since they obviously loved it

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Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 04:42 PM (exHjb)

49 27 ... "And more honey. I am trying to build up the gaps in my food storage"

Notso, We are doing the same thing especially as the winter forecast indicates this year could be 'interesting' in our area. Fortunately, we've found some excellent local sources for honey and have a good amount on hand.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2023 04:44 PM (7EjX1)

50 Hefezopf (German Sweet Bread)..........

Meine Frau macht es......mmmmmmmmm

Posted by: zooomzooom at September 24, 2023 04:44 PM (Y0Ei4)

51 I'd like to make fresh breads but I'd eat them all over the course of a day or two. Especially if there was butter and honey available.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2023 04:44 PM (YRsIm)

52 49 27 ... "And more honey. I am trying to build up the gaps in my food storage"

Notso, We are doing the same thing especially as the winter forecast indicates this year could be 'interesting' in our area. Fortunately, we've found some excellent local sources for honey and have a good amount on hand.

How long can honig be stored, un-opened?

many thanks...

Posted by: zooomzooom at September 24, 2023 04:45 PM (Y0Ei4)

53 Ditto on the thumbs up on Spice House--NOT Penzey's.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 24, 2023 04:46 PM (fTtFy)

54 You could make it again since they obviously loved it...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 04:42
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I could, but that would require trip to grocer's for peppers. Got taters in the pantry.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 24, 2023 04:47 PM (ju2Fy)

55 Youngest son is taking an online food of the world cooking class (all I have to pay for is the food and he gets a recipe to try each week). This week, one of the items was Horchata (since it was Mexico), and it's always amusing to see what recipe a teacher gives 9-14 year olds. Pretty sure it wasn't completely authentic (while they start with soaked blended and strained rice for the rice part, they add evaporated and condensed milk), so I went ahead and gave my kid options to make it dairy free so I could drink it. Tried to decide how one subs for 1/2 evaporated and 1/2 condensed, but ultimately decided on 1/2 coconut milk and 1/4 simple syrup and we dropped water from the recipe to be made up with serving over ice. It was pretty dang good for a kid doing it himself, so I think the subs worked - may try that type of sub for the combo in the future.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 04:47 PM (exHjb)

56 We are still finding really old stuff in our freezer. We found some OM bacon a month ago, Best By Feb 2009. It was still good.

Yesterday a seasoned beef brisket from 2019. I have it on the smoker now.

Aged beef, if you will.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 24, 2023 04:48 PM (aD39U)

57 Since yesterday was cool and rainy, I made various homemade soups and focaccia - it was lovely, salty and slightly fried on the bottom from the copious olive oil! But the standout was pasta e fagioli. I'd never tried it before and it was delicious. Can highly recommend that combo for cold weather eating!

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 04:48 PM (JrN/x)

58 Notso, We are doing the same thing especially as the winter forecast indicates this year could be 'interesting' in our area. Fortunately, we've found some excellent local sources for honey and have a good amount on hand.

How long can honig be stored, un-opened?

many thanks...
Posted by: zooomzooom at September 24, 2023 04:45 PM (Y0Ei4)

Literally forever, but it might harden. It will always be good.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 04:49 PM (exHjb)

59 I bought a Little Gem grinder years ago, I doubt they are still in business, but it is mostly an electric motor in a wooden box with one spinning and one fixed stone. I do like it for grinding my whole wheat flour. I don't use all whole wheat for bread, but it does make a nice loaf when I add in a couple of cups per loaf.

Apparently it was manufactured in Beaverton Oregon.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2023 04:50 PM (xhaym)

60 How long can honig be stored

At least five thousand years, if Egyptology is to be believed.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 24, 2023 04:50 PM (aD39U)

61 Shanah tovah to CBD, JJ, and all members of The Tribe

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 24, 2023 04:50 PM (vHIgi)

62 In fact, rumor has it that challah makes fantastic French Toast!

Concur. I've made Challah specifically for French Toast.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at September 24, 2023 04:51 PM (8C7+r)

63 Novalocal, that course sounds fun! What a great way to introduce kids to cooking. Do they even have Home Ec anymore?

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 04:52 PM (JrN/x)

64 We're having meatloaf and mashed potatoes for dinner.

If you don't like meatloaf, you're either a liar or a communist'

Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 24, 2023 04:52 PM (BbEYi)

65 *stumbles in from range*

Yay! Fud Thread!

Made some nice lamb shoulder chops for lunch, with roasted golden beets, sliced horizontally, with herbed goar cheese in between the slices for a nice beet stack. I think it worked.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 04:52 PM (aQy7p)

66 I've been trying some herbal teas for health reasons. To my surprise, the bit about chamomile tea before bed is working. I actually do sleep better. Green tea with lemon is helping with digestion. And Celestial Seasonings Country Peach Passion is just plain tasty.

I didn't expect much if anything from them. Figured a cup of tea wouldn't have any effect on someone my size. But it is proving beneficial. And tasty.

It does NOT replace my Breakfast Blend Community Coffee every morning.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2023 04:52 PM (7EjX1)

67 56 We are still finding really old stuff in our freezer. We found some OM bacon a month ago, Best By Feb 2009. It was still good.

Yesterday a seasoned beef brisket from 2019. I have it on the smoker now.

Aged beef, if you will.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 24, 2023 04:48 PM (aD39U)

I do this every 6 months - I send the spouse down to find the oldest thing in the freezer for 2-3 days in a row. And every 6 months, somehow something is found that was older than what was brought up the last time I would do this. I think I've only tossed 2-3 frozen things in my lifetime (one was 12 years, and I thought that was too long, even for me, for stew meat)...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 04:53 PM (exHjb)

68 That challah looks amazing. I love it, but
also haven't made it in a long time. I use the Silver Palate recipe, yum yum.

RIP ibguy. I miss him. He was always so cheerful.

Posted by: bluebell at September 24, 2023 04:53 PM (pTb/Z)

69 How long can honig be stored, un-opened?

many thanks...
Posted by: zooomzooom at September 24, 2023 04:45 PM (Y0Ei4)

Honey can last for thousands of years. It just crystallizes.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2023 04:53 PM (xhaym)

70 63 Novalocal, that course sounds fun! What a great way to introduce kids to cooking. Do they even have Home Ec anymore?
Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 04:52 PM (JrN/x)

I don't know. We homeschool, so I can pick what interests him (he has geography each week with the same country b/c he's a geography fiend right now).

I know I need to teach him to put away ingredients as he uses them, and to get them out in order (right now, I do that on a cutting board for him, and then he kicks me out for the class...but I walk in about halfway through to get him space by cleaning and putting away...but it's only been 4 classes, so we have time to learn both skills still)...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 04:55 PM (exHjb)

71 >>In fact, rumor has it that challah makes fantastic French Toast!

It does. Particularly with maple syrup.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2023 04:56 PM (ZLI7S)

72 Concur. I've made Challah specifically for French Toast.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at September 24, 2023 04:51 PM

We make a very similar sweet bread for Pascha. It makes amazing French toast after the holiday.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 04:56 PM (aQy7p)

73 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 24, 2023 04:57 PM (T4tVD)

74 68 That challah looks amazing. I love it, but
also haven't made it in a long time. I use the Silver Palate recipe, yum yum.

RIP ibguy. I miss him. He was always so cheerful.
Posted by: bluebell

That's the recipe I use! I love most of their stuff. So good and many of their recipes are quite doable.

Posted by: nurse ratched, Sea Otter Awareness Week is Sept 24-30! at September 24, 2023 04:57 PM (r+J3S)

75 It does. Particularly with maple syrup.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2023 04:56 PM

And that's when the fight started, officer.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 04:57 PM (aQy7p)

76 It does NOT replace my Breakfast Blend Community Coffee every morning.

THAT will wake you up and make you regular.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2023 04:59 PM (YRsIm)

77 If you don't like meatloaf, you're either a liar or a communist'
Posted by: All Hail Eris

Indeed. Made meatloaf for the first time in ages last week and surprisingly didn't get an protests from the little hobbits. Guess it's been long enough that they were all willing to give it a shot. Plus meatloaf sammies for lunch the next day.

Posted by: She Hobbit at September 24, 2023 04:59 PM (ftFVW)

78 >>And that's when the fight started, officer.

This maple syrup hate can not be allowed to stand. It's unAmerican.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2023 05:00 PM (ZLI7S)

79 My wife planted marigolds in the garden this year to keep out bugs. It may have worked but they also put out huge numbers of flowers. I picked the flowers and dried them for tea. I find it is best to dry them and then pick off the base.
It is supposed to be good for what ails you, and it is not terrible tasting.

My wife likes barley tea (Boricha) and I have been keeping dried lemon balm, and a native wild mint we call yerba buena that has an overtone of Vick's Vapo-rub, on hand since I discovered that I can't drink coffee the same way I had to in my 20's.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2023 05:00 PM (xhaym)

80 I missed last weekend's food thread b/c I went to a family member's big birthday party reunion.

I give super props to my aunt. She's the 1st family member to think of my allergies. Since she served a buffet at a restaurant, she knew I couldn't eat anything but the fruit, so she'd told the staff I could order off menu. That was the good news. Now, the staff was a little overwhelmed on the dairy question b/c they were a sports pub, which usually tosses dairy in everything and doesn't have dedicated fryers. But I have to give a shout out to the manager, too. When she knew it would be hard, I told her BBQ pork and bacon usually work well, so when she couldn't figure out if the breads would work, so brought me a bowl of pulled pork with separate bowls of lettuce, tomato, onion, and pickles. And I tossed it all together as a salad, and it was great. So props to my aunt and the restaurant, since it was a hike for me to get there, and the drive home went well. And I didn't have to stop for food.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 05:01 PM (exHjb)

81 Yes, Hobbitess! Meatloaf sammiches, meatloaf 'n' eggs, use it cubed in spaghetti sauce.,,

Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 24, 2023 05:01 PM (BbEYi)

82 Addictive at Walmart? It's called Great Value Fudge Striped Shortbread Cookies. 11.5 ounces, yellow packet and under $2.00.
Serving size is 3. I guffaw at that!!!!!!
Very hard to stop after 1 or 3 or ........

DELICIOUS

Posted by: Ciampino -- BAD Cop! No Donut! at September 24, 2023 05:02 PM (qfLjt)

83 "Meatloaf sammiches"

It's been too long since I made meatloaf. Meatloaf sammiches are a gift from God, so it's going on the menu next week!

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 05:04 PM (JrN/x)

84 NYT actually took those carbon-reduction “commitments” seriously? How stupid are they? It was all just complete bullshit from the get. Companies puked out these garbage fake commitments to reduce carbons — always safely years in the future — to get assholes like the NYT off their backs. A junkie whore is more reliable than any of these phony commitments.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 24, 2023 05:05 PM (C+eyQ)

85 Alright, back from the grocery store. Along with the staples I needed, I grabbed some chicken leg quarters at a dollar a pound, will cook a couple tonight with salad. Didn't have any not frozen meat.
Make some cran sauce from frozen berries.

Posted by: From about that Time at September 24, 2023 05:06 PM (4780s)

86 “virtue-signaling of a bunch of smug, pompous assholes living in luxury buildings on the Upper West Side of Manhattan“

I’m not smug or pompous …🤷‍♂️

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 24, 2023 05:07 PM (C+eyQ)

87 Except...it's just a convection oven with a fast fan. I think I can duplicate most things in my conventional convection oven with a sheet pan and a rack

This is correct according to my research. Supposedly a convection toaster oven can perform as least as well as, and often better than, an air fryer while also offering the functionality of a toaster oven. Saves counter space, too, if you want both.

Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2023 05:07 PM (Sf2cq)

88 52 ... "How long can honig be stored, un-opened?"

Basically forever. Honey doesn't go bad. It might harden but letting the container sit in hot water for a while will re-liquify. Even after opening it will last years.

Two things about honey. Heating it too much, as in cooking it, destroys many of the health benefits. Just putting some on my warm oatmeal or warm bread is fine. There is fake honey out there and ways to test for it. We just buy from local producers so we know the quality. Also, like many other food matters, we won't touch honey made in China.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2023 05:08 PM (7EjX1)

89 Just finished an AF cigar and a few chocolate covered espresso beans. Pretty delightful combo.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2023 05:08 PM (YRsIm)

90
It does NOT replace my Breakfast Blend Community Coffee every morning.
Posted by: JTB

Try their Morning Thunder.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 05:09 PM (bhlvH)

91 I’m not smug or pompous … and your knowing junkie whores? ;-)

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2023 05:10 PM (YRsIm)

92 A hob is also a male ferret.
A gill is the female.

Posted by: Ciampino --- BAD Cop! No Donut! at September 24, 2023 05:11 PM (qfLjt)

93 JackStraw,
I'd like to apologize for a snarky, bitchy comment I directed towards you a few months ago. It was uncalled for.

Posted by: nurse ratched, Sea Otter Awareness Week is Sept 24-30! at September 24, 2023 05:13 PM (tAqdW)

94 OK -- where is ibguy's wife's recipe for challah? Don't hold out on us, CBD!!

Posted by: Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah at September 24, 2023 05:13 PM (ZmgJv)

95 Hello foodsters.

I guess I’m not a lying communist. I love meatloaf.

Posted by: Pete Bog at September 24, 2023 05:13 PM (0aPP4)

96 No worries, Nurse.

All good.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2023 05:15 PM (ZLI7S)

97 JT this rain has been parked over me all day

And not sure feel like making a hamburger inside but there is no other option.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2023 05:16 PM (fwDg9)

98 Hi Chef.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 05:16 PM (Iahxz)

99
Plain old homemade pizza for dinner tonight. Just barely exceptional.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 24, 2023 05:16 PM (enJYY)

100 Posted by: Ciampino --- BAD Cop! No Donut! at September 24, 2023 05:11 PM (qfLjt)

I used to collect debts by phone and one of the responses we got from a letter advising of the overdue debt was a hand written note that advised us that we were not getting the money and told us we were bad and earned no donuts.

I contacted the debtor to try to resolve the issue, that was standard process, and she cussed me out and repeated that we were bad and earned no doughnut . . . and . . . That counted as a phone contact to try to resolve the account prior to initiating garnishment.
Debt collectors are heartless SOBs who deserve no doughnuts, but they do have a procedure that they will stick to.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2023 05:17 PM (xhaym)

101 HONEY EXPERIMENT ... Our family loves honey butter on cornbread year-round, but we don't always remember to make it ahead of time ... Hmmm, if I made a large quantity and froze it in small portions, I'm wondering if the honey would eventually crystallize ... Am gonna give this a try ahead of the Holidays (and will post an update at some point) ... For the moment, though, does anyone have any thoughts? ... Thanks in advance!

Posted by: Kathy at September 24, 2023 05:18 PM (XUe78)

102 boxed stuff and some sliced up hot dogs instead. Pounded it down like nobody's business.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead a
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That's exactly my past Thursday night dinner with daughter#1 & granddaughter #1&only.
Best meal of the week by far.

Posted by: From about that Time at September 24, 2023 05:19 PM (4780s)

103 Plain old homemade pizza for dinner tonight. Just barely exceptional.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Did you say 'plain old homemade pizza' like it was a 'bad thing'? 'Cuz it sounds great.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 05:19 PM (bhlvH)

104 Not a communist. My favorite meat loaf recipe is Paula Deen's. I double or triple the glaze to have extra when finished.

https://is.gd/meatloaf_PD

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 24, 2023 05:20 PM (ju2Fy)

105 Hey Ben Had.

CBD thanks for the food thread.

Any tips from the group on Shrimp Saganaki?

Posted by: Pete Bog at September 24, 2023 05:20 PM (0aPP4)

106 Honey is amazing.

It has natural antibacterial properties and is used frequently as a salve for burns.

I also use local honey as a treatment for seasonal allergies. Just get some local honey and use a tablespoon or so on yogurt or toast. If you heat it up too much, you lose most of the beneficial properties.

Posted by: nurse ratched, Sea Otter Awareness Week is Sept 24-30! at September 24, 2023 05:20 PM (U2p+3)

107 CBD, I will admit that I am 29+, and I grew up in Pennsylvania but, my parents always told me oysters are ok in any month containing an "R". So Sept., Oct., Nov., Dec., Jan., Feb., Mar., and Apr. are allowed. My folks wouldn't lie - would they??

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at September 24, 2023 05:20 PM (sMkAM)

108 CBD, love how you're writing about food when you're about to fast in less than two hours.

To my HeBros, have an easy fast.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 24, 2023 05:21 PM (0ZNRo)

109 Sorry, took a break. Honey, wheat and salt store indefinitely. Oil will also, if stored properly. That's why those four items were the original Latter Day Saints' food storage. Now they recommend just three months. Honey will go up in price as it's typically processed in August. I use it in my tea, so it's a big thing for me. I usually have two pails on hand (11 pounds) and one pail in use. I'd like to bump that up while I'm working. I like GloryBee Pacific Northwest Honey but Cox is a good brand too. I try to buy sugar as I see it on sale as you need it for preserving.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 05:23 PM (Ds/Wi)

110 I think I can duplicate most things in my conventional convection oven with a sheet pan and a rack

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That is the exact model of air fryer I've been using for about four or so years, and it's been fantastic. And yes, you hit the key to it. It's not meant to replace, but to compliment. What I've found that it's outstanding for is things that come out of bags. Chicken wings (although I've done really well with from-scratch wings, too), fries, etc. Reheating pizza, too.

It's similar to a smoker or griddle. Can you do without it? Sure. Does it add another element if you can afford it and have the space? Very much so.

Tinker with it a bit and you'll catch yourself using it more and more. I recommend picking up a two or three pack of the $10 or so silicone air fryer "bowl" inserts that will keep you from having to clean the device itself each time. They shouldn't be used for everything, but they're handy for certain stuff.

Good luck and enjoy.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 24, 2023 05:24 PM (SfD1B)

111 Ghee also keeps for a long time without refrigeration.

Posted by: nurse ratched, Sea Otter Awareness Week is Sept 24-30! at September 24, 2023 05:25 PM (U2p+3)

112 I want some of those vegetables that were shown on the garden thread yesterday! They look positively yummy.
I'm all alone today watching football. Also cooking for one is less than ideal. The girls are off with the girls. It's a nice day and we had some improvement with the air. The smoke was bad for a few days.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 24, 2023 05:26 PM (MeG8a)

113 Oh and I found this great advice that I am passing around. Woman on Facebook said her grandmother taught her to fill all empty canning jars with water. When the grid crashed in TX that year, she still had water.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 05:26 PM (Ds/Wi)

114 Having Creamed Spinach and Peas with dinner tonight.

Madness.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 24, 2023 05:26 PM (XV/Pl)

115 I had baked salmon and stir fried asparagus (almost raw) and a glass of tea at a senior living facility for dinner and glad I did. I had to put my 95 yo buddy in the truck and bring him to the ER with pneumonia symtoms. He may get admitted and both of us will miss supper.

Posted by: Eromero at September 24, 2023 05:27 PM (z3WCn)

116 6
Received thru Amazon a jar of Marmite. Basically the same stuff as Vegemite, but from the UK. This will elevate my morning toast and coffee routine.

Eat well, my friends.

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 04:05 PM (geLO

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UK Marmite is the original, before Vegemite or Bovril. Never without it. Also made in South Africa, which Marmite is darker, almost black and better?

Posted by: Ciampino - Old People have little to lose and a lot of experience at September 24, 2023 05:28 PM (qfLjt)

117
Any tips from the group on Shrimp Saganaki?
Posted by: Pete Bog at September 24, 2023 05:20 PM (0aPP4)

I used to eat a dish of that name (Garidthes Saganaki, to be exact) at a taverna in the Halandri neighborhood of Athens, Greece. It was lovely, medium sized shrimp mixed with fresh chopped tomato, feta and thyme, garlic and oregano, topped with a healthy layer of saganaki cheese, broiled and then flamed with ouzo at the table. Served with toasted country bread...mercy.

I don't know if that's what you are talking about, but this was delicious.

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 05:28 PM (JrN/x)

118 Need prayers by the way.

Posted by: Eromero at September 24, 2023 05:28 PM (z3WCn)

119 118 Need prayers by the way.
Posted by: Eromero at September 24, 2023 05:28 PM (z3WCn)

praying

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 05:29 PM (JrN/x)

120 So the honey question is "how long will the container last?"

Posted by: mikeski at September 24, 2023 05:29 PM (DgGvY)

121
If someone were to want to get into homemade pizza making in a less then hardcore method of wrapping a rubber hose around the forearm then moving directly to the intravenous injection of hard drugs (Trainspotting reference) the thing to buy is a frozen pizza. They suck. But from that base you can add olive oil, garlic, tomato sauce, mushrooms, your own blend of cheeses. Do that for a while. Find out what works for you.

From there you make your own dough, but I'm sorry - if you voted for Joe Biden the subject is much too complex for you. Stick with 'Dine and Dash' pizza.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 24, 2023 05:29 PM (enJYY)

122 Of course, Eromero. You're a good wing man.

Posted by: nurse ratched, Sea Otter Awareness Week is Sept 24-30! at September 24, 2023 05:30 PM (U2p+3)

123 Will pray, Eromero.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2023 05:30 PM (RjC0W)

124 Thanks for the Honig storage responses.......

meat loaf sammiches...........been way tooooooo long....

gots to have them soooooon

Posted by: zooomzooom at September 24, 2023 05:30 PM (Y0Ei4)

125 Need prayers by the way.
Posted by: Eromero

--

(insert thumbs-up symbol here)

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 24, 2023 05:32 PM (SfD1B)

126 Does the months with r for oysters hold true for clams?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 05:32 PM (Iahxz)

127 Need prayers by the way.
Posted by: Eromero

Prayers up for your friend.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 05:32 PM (bhlvH)

128 Easy fast to the tribe members. May the Almighty keep and bless you this Yom Kippur

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 05:33 PM (JrN/x)

129 Thanks for all the time and effort in your threads today, CBD. I particularly enjoyed the one on the importance of religious faith. I hope you get a day off tomorrow.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2023 05:34 PM (RjC0W)

130 So the honey question is "how long will the container last?"
Posted by: mikeski

Clay pots work for a *long* time (see Egypt comment above).
Glass until you break it.
Mylar? I think it'd be good; but, I'm not sure.
Plastic, I don't use it for long term storage.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 05:34 PM (bhlvH)

131 Prayers up, Eromero.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 24, 2023 05:34 PM (ju2Fy)

132 Eromero, prayers indeed.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 05:34 PM (Iahxz)

133
I think the oysters thing is based on water and air temperature. If they both are low go ahead and buy. The other way around? Buyer beware.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 24, 2023 05:35 PM (enJYY)

134 I have a craving for stew.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 24, 2023 05:36 PM (uSHSS)

135 Need prayers by the way.
Posted by: Eromero at September 24, 2023 05:28 PM

Done.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 05:37 PM (aQy7p)

136 Need prayers by the way.
Posted by: Eromero at September 24, 2023 05:28 PM (z3WCn)

Done.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 24, 2023 05:38 PM (uSHSS)

137 Oysters here in the PNW tend to procreate in the summer months. They get milky and a little mushy.

I prefer to eat them picked off the beach in January. We bring out a card table and set it with a pepper mill, champagne mignonette, vodka, bread, cheese and salami. If it's raining, we have a canopy. 18 per person per day with an 8 dollar tag.

Leave the shells on the beach.

(No one only eats 1

Posted by: nurse ratched, Sea Otter Awareness Week is Sept 24-30! at September 24, 2023 05:39 PM (U2p+3)

138 Does the months with r for oysters hold true for clams?

I never heard the mention of clams. But, back when I was a yute, the ice man was still delivering big blocks of ice to neighbors for their "refrigerators". That probably had something to do with the rule so I suspect clams were also affected.

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at September 24, 2023 05:39 PM (sMkAM)

139 Back when we were really poor, we'd get a 50 pound sack of wheat. It was people food, goat chicken and dog food. The dogs got eggs and milk with it. It kept us fed for a time. I guess it's my comfort food. I feel like I can take care of myself if I can grind wheat and make bread. I have canned butter stored for it too.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 05:40 PM (Ds/Wi)

140 Today I learned all the health benefits of pickled quail eggs. Ordered some for the MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 05:41 PM (Iahxz)

141 I had to put my 95 yo buddy in the truck and bring him to the ER with pneumonia symtoms. He may get admitted and both of us will miss supper.
Posted by: Eromero
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Thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2023 05:41 PM (HsC66)

142 Lentils and rice, Notsothoreau. This is why I hate lentils and rice.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2023 05:41 PM (xhaym)

143 I prefer to eat them picked off the beach in January. We bring out a card table and set it with a pepper mill, champagne mignonette, vodka, bread, cheese and salami. If it's raining, we have a canopy. 18 per person per day with an 8 dollar tag.

Leave the shells on the beach.

(No one only eats 1
Posted by: nurse ratched, Sea Otter Awareness Week is Sept 24-30! at September 24, 2023 05:39 PM

*politely wipes drool from chin*

I love oysters.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 05:42 PM (aQy7p)

144
Sends Nurse a third party out-of-state check for $8.00.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 24, 2023 05:42 PM (enJYY)

145 With clams and mussels, we just have to be aware of red tide.

Oh. And geoduck. That's some mighty fine sushi. And scallopini. And fritters. And chowder. And cutlets pounded and dredged and fried.

Posted by: nurse ratched, Sea Otter Awareness Week is Sept 24-30! at September 24, 2023 05:45 PM (U2p+3)

146 57 Since yesterday was cool and rainy, I made various homemade soups and focaccia - it was lovely, salty and slightly fried on the bottom from the copious olive oil! But the standout was pasta e fagioli. I'd never tried it before and it was delicious. Can highly recommend that combo for cold weather eating!

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 04:48 PM (JrN/x)
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Pasta e fagioli .... hmm //// yummy. Even better the leftovers the next day.

Posted by: Ciampino - Old People have little to lose and a lot of experience! at September 24, 2023 05:45 PM (qfLjt)

147

RIP ibguy. I miss him. He was always so cheerful.
Posted by: bluebell

Yes; He was a lovely and prayerful man. He used to send prayer requests to me when I was doing the prayer list and we would "chat" by e-mail.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2023 05:45 PM (AI6rD)

148 It's cute how Mrs. Rollins laughs at Cowboy Ken's jokes.

Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2023 05:46 PM (Sf2cq)

149 Not much of a rice eater although I store it. I do enjoy lentils but not every day

I grew up eating pinto beans and I still love those! I can buy some crazy stuff because I can have refried beans on a corn tortilla with nothing else for lunch, as long as it takes. And i can cook a good pot of beans.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 05:46 PM (Ds/Wi)

150 62 In fact, rumor has it that challah makes fantastic French Toast!

Concur. I've made Challah specifically for French Toast.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at September 24, 2023 04:51 PM (8C7+r)
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Did either of you put maple syrup on it?

Posted by: Ciampino -- Old People have little to lose and a lot of experience! at September 24, 2023 05:47 PM (qfLjt)

151 The worst food my parents ever bought for economy reasons was a 40 pound bag of pinto beans. My siblings and I still groan at the memory of the summer where it seemed like we ate pinto beans morning, noon, and night. I loathe pinto beans.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2023 05:47 PM (q3gwH)

152 I find Marmite to be slightly more spreadable than Vegemite

Marmite is like soft tar, Vegemite is like thicker tar

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 05:48 PM (geLO8)

153 "challah makes fantastic French Toast!"

So it should be served with maple syrup?

(Probably got a hundred other commenter making the same hacky joke.

Posted by: EFG at September 24, 2023 05:48 PM (fcDWM)

154 This maple syrup hate can not be allowed to stand. It's unAmerican.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2023 05:00 PM (ZLI7S)

Wait...is Rhode Island considered part of America?

I thought it was too small...like America's circus midget.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2023 05:51 PM (lQONO)

155 olddog--

I'm a big fan of Paula Dean's meatloaf recipe, too--and I grew up not liking meatloaf at all because it was boring.

I use ground pork and use Rotel tomatoes instead of peppers and canned tomatoes. I also saute the onions until they are lightly browned. Oooh. I think I need to make some soon or hunt around the freezer to see if I have some.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 24, 2023 05:52 PM (fTtFy)

156 Easy fast to the tribe members. May the Almighty keep and bless you this Yom Kippur

Posted by: Moki at September 24, 2023 05:33 PM (JrN/x)

Thank you!

And with that I will sign off...

Please behave...or at least cover your tracks well!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2023 05:54 PM (lQONO)

157 It says it right there in yon PDF, net zero is an haunted conversation. Just i time for Halloween.

Posted by: Marooned at September 24, 2023 05:54 PM (kt8QE)

158
Diminutive states like Rhode Island can barely compare to a powerhouse Senator from Pennsylvania like John Fetterman who though perhaps looks like he's skipped 'Leg Day' every day of his life.

I've seen better legs on .99 chicken quarters.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 24, 2023 05:55 PM (enJYY)

159 152 I find Marmite to be slightly more spreadable than Vegemite

Marmite is like soft tar, Vegemite is like thicker tar

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 05:48 PM (geLO

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If you are making lots of sandwiches then you can blend the marmite and butter in a small bowl. The resulting paste is very easy to spread without destroying the bread.
BTW marmite and vegemite taste 'similar' but not the same. Vegemite is a much lighter color too.

Posted by: Ciampino - sammiches for the win at September 24, 2023 05:56 PM (qfLjt)

160 Thinking about some scallops with this "chickpea" pasta tonight. Need something to jack it up.

Sauté in some butter, a bit of garlic, S&P.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 24, 2023 05:57 PM (Q4IgG)

161 Of the various kitchen knives I own, I had a gap where a nakiri would go, and I've been wanting one for a while.

Visiting my local kitchen store a couple weeks back I stumbled across an amazing-looking nakiri made by Kikuichi, and they happened to be having a sale. Spent quite a bit more than I normally would but wow, it's a really fine blade.

Chopping/slicing/julienning veggies is an absolute PLEASURE now.

Posted by: ballistic at September 24, 2023 05:57 PM (oXNqT)

162 >>Wait...is Rhode Island considered part of America?

>>I thought it was too small...like America's

Hateful and hurtful.

I'll have to eat another lobster tail to sooth the pain.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2023 05:58 PM (ZLI7S)

163 CBD, that blonde cook better not fry bacon (un)dressed like that!

hob
British, a cooking appliance, or the flat top part of a cooker, with hotplates or burners. Øa flat metal shelf at the side of a fireplace, used for heating pans.

Posted by: Ciampino -- sammiches for the win at September 24, 2023 06:00 PM (qfLjt)

164 Slapped a whole 5lbs fryer on the grill to try out this beer can chicken apparatus. It was a gift I've had for years and never tried. A slow roast with some sausages and veggie stuff and a pleasant afternoon. Life is good.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 24, 2023 06:01 PM (KVGVf)

165 Chicken With Cheese?

Enchiladas.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 24, 2023 06:01 PM (llON8)

166 160 Thinking about some scallops with this "chickpea" pasta tonight. Need something to jack it up.

Sauté in some butter, a bit of garlic, S&P.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 24, 2023 05:57 PM (Q4IgG)

I'd think of the pasta like hummus or falafel, and maybe add some lemon and parsley to the scallops b/c chickpeas like both flavors (along with the garlic).

Posted by: Nova Local at September 24, 2023 06:01 PM (exHjb)

167 I want some of those vegetables

Y'know who else was a "vegetarian"?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff, In Solidarity with The Struggle to maintain Moron standards a at September 24, 2023 06:06 PM (QqMaK)

168 I accidentally got an order of two quarts of maple syrup. Had it in the cart at Walmart online and didn't notice it when I ordered. Since I already had two quarts, I still have plenty. I don't eat pancakes often.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 06:07 PM (Ds/Wi)

169 Notsothoreau don't send it to CBD

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2023 06:09 PM (fwDg9)

170 Y'know who else was a "vegetarian"?
----

Tonight on "What's Cookin' With Adolf?" we're making Macht Fries!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 24, 2023 06:14 PM (BbEYi)

171 In fact, rumor has it that challah makes fantastic French Toast!

Nearly-drowned in Vermont Maple Syrup is how our very own MisHum recommends it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 24, 2023 06:15 PM (a3Q+t)

172 >>> 13 Sorry to go OT but Miami is crushing Denver 70-20. Unreal.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2023 04:14 PM (V8he0)

The Dolphins are abusing the ~~Broncos~~ Geldings, you say?

I'm trying to recall if I've ever seen a pro final score involving 10 touchdowns...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 24, 2023 06:16 PM (llON8)

173 CBD doesn't appreciate fine maple syrup!

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 06:16 PM (Ds/Wi)

174 I used to make a "Neapolitan" challah, with the three strands of completely different dough -- white, wheat and dark pumpernickel. It was (or should have been) fun to slice up on a charcuterie board but my dipshit ex-Lutheran inlaws masquerading as born-again Mennos had to profess total ignorance of Abrahamic food tradition. They're not playing dumb.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 24, 2023 06:20 PM (4PZHB)

175 Pretty sure that Maple syrup can be fermented. Just saying...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 24, 2023 06:22 PM (S5P0o)

176 I'll claim the heretic title. French toast made with cinnamon swirl raisin bread with butter and black strap molasses

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:23 PM (Iahxz)

177 168 ...Notso,
When was a kid we would get a spoonful of maple syrup in a glass of milk as a treat. I still do that once or twice a year but, besides pancakes and French toast (sorry CBD), a teaspoon mixed into yogurt or drizzled on toast or vanilla ice cream is a pleasure. It doesn't take much so it lasts a long time.

We get maple syrup by the gallon and freeze it. I keep a small container in the fridge and warm up the part I use as needed. I have a tiny pot just for that purpose.

Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2023 06:24 PM (7EjX1)

178 What's 'the carbon emission' in making maple syrup? Is the industry going to be targeted by unscientific idiots.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sammiches for the win at September 24, 2023 06:24 PM (qfLjt)

179 It involves tasty food. Of course they will target it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 06:26 PM (Ds/Wi)

180 126 Does the months with r for oysters hold true for clams?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 05:32 PM (Iahxz)

Harvested clams with my dad through many a summer. Consumed most on the half shell, chilled (we were not barbarians, appearances notwithstanding), with a hit of lemon and a blast of Frank's hot sauce. Can confirm the calendar had no effect on their quality..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 24, 2023 06:26 PM (37q3K)

181 Fresh homemade bread, Kerry Gold butter and marionberry jam. Very simple and delicious!

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 06:29 PM (Ds/Wi)

182 Challah makes terrific french toast, lemme tell you. Slice thick though, like french toast from all homemade breads, and then just a dash of maple syrup.

Wonderful.

Not as good as just ripping the loaf apart and devouring it fresh from the oven though.

Posted by: .87c at September 24, 2023 06:31 PM (IT1r5)

183 Joe Kidd, thank you. We will be adding baby clams in the paella for the MoMe
There is also a non shellfish choice.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:33 PM (Iahxz)

184 What's 'the carbon emission' in making maple syrup? Is the industry going to be targeted by unscientific idiots.
Posted by: Ciampino

I've read that you evaporate (reduce) the thin sap over a wood fire and then switch to gas to really finish.
So yes, they *will* come after it... but, Canada will go first so our Maple farmers will make a killing.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 06:35 PM (bhlvH)

185 My oven is dying. Also, it is miller season and the pantry moths are fluttering around to tell me that I am not as careful with infestation as I thought I was.

All the fruit and dried peppers are going to go through the freezer this year to try to kill them. I also found one in a jar of ground cornmeal that I had washed, and then used for parched corn that I ground. I suspect I had moth eggs in the grinder.
snarl.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2023 06:35 PM (xhaym)

186 https://tinyurl.com/48cfenfb
20 Tweets from Bad Blue

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2023 06:35 PM (fwDg9)

187 Joe Kidd, thank you. We will be adding baby clams in the paella for the MoMe
There is also a non shellfish choice.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:33 PM

Ooo...paella? Om, nom, nom! I'm liking this tradition.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 06:35 PM (aQy7p)

188 There is also a non shellfish choice.
Posted by: Ben Had

Better half thanks you!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 06:36 PM (bhlvH)

189 Bugs. There's no escaping them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 06:36 PM (Ds/Wi)

190 Need prayers by the way.
Posted by: Eromero
*****************
Sending prayers for your friend and for you.

I only use Challah bread for French Toast. TRex gets very excited when he sees a loaf on the kitchen island. French toast with real vanilla, and Vermont maple syrup. Yum. But I've never made the bread myself. So thanks Bluebell, I'll try out that recipe.

Posted by: Grateful at September 24, 2023 06:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

191 the next time I make beef stew or meatloaf, I'm going to add some Marmite
1 tsp maybe

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 06:38 PM (geLO8)

192 Received a .Zingermans holiday gift catalog yesterday and one of the most incredibly overpriced virtue signaling things in it was the heritage breed turkey I could reserve immediately. $250 for a ten pounder. From North Carolina. Never mind that there are numerous heritage turkey breeders her in Michigan they could contract with. I had to laugh.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2023 06:38 PM (9IewC)

193 Joe Kidd, thank you. We will be adding baby clams in the paella for the MoMe
There is also a non shellfish choice.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:33 PM

Personally, I think the smoked ribs make a stunning addition to the TxMoMe paella, and hope the tradition will continue this year.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 24, 2023 06:38 PM (a3Q+t)

194 183 - Sangria is the official libation to pair with paella. Knew this Spanish girl who made an amazing sangria...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 24, 2023 06:41 PM (37q3K)

195 Duncanthrax, many pounds of ribs will be had.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:42 PM (Iahxz)

196 Thanks Skip !

Posted by: JT at September 24, 2023 06:42 PM (T4tVD)

197 @192 Gosh Jen, isn't Zingerman's a local Ann Arbor business group?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 24, 2023 06:42 PM (4PZHB)

198 Need prayers by the way.
Posted by: Eromero

Okay

Posted by: JT at September 24, 2023 06:43 PM (T4tVD)

199 Bugs. There's no escaping them.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 24, 2023 06:36 PM

Glass the planet!

Posted by: Johnny Rico] at September 24, 2023 06:43 PM (aQy7p)

200 Glass the planet!
Posted by: Johnny Rico

Nice reference to R.A.H.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 06:45 PM (bhlvH)

201 OT BUT OMG

Taylor Swift attends Chiefs game with Travis Kelce's mom as dating rumors heat up

I know some of you guys will be hurt by this news

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 06:45 PM (geLO8)

202 Hi Moki, she uses Silver Palate but I'm not really involved in the procurement and development part...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 24, 2023 06:46 PM (RIvkX)

203 Glass the planet!
Posted by: Johnny Rico

Nice reference to R.A.H.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 06:45 PM

Too easy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 06:47 PM (aQy7p)

204 sorry
food drink ingredients yum
what's the diff between a waffle and a pancake, ingredient-wise

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 06:47 PM (geLO8)

205 AZdeplorable, as sous chef you are in charge of the non seafood selection

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:48 PM (Iahxz)

206 Duncanthrax, many pounds of ribs will be had.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:42 PM

Mmm....ribs.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 06:49 PM (aQy7p)

207 Paella at the TxMoMe? Seriously? I am sooo glad we are attending, that's one of my favorites!

Posted by: Grateful at September 24, 2023 06:49 PM (IQ6Gq)

208 197. Yes, located in Ann Arbor. Their catalog has some amazing stuff and they curate everything in it to the nth degree. Their retail sites and restaurants have great food and drink. But they have become so unaffordable. My family’s demands at Thanksgiving two of their pies which runs me around $140. They are nine inch pies in aluminum pans.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2023 06:50 PM (9IewC)

209 204 - Waffle batter involves a touch more oil/shortening..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 24, 2023 06:50 PM (37q3K)

210 Paella at the TxMoMe? Seriously? I am sooo glad we are attending, that's one of my favorites!
Posted by: Grateful at September 24, 2023 06:49 PM

Last year's was fantastic. You will not be disappointed.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 06:50 PM (aQy7p)

211 There was a restaurant in New Orleans the would serve you a loaf of that braided bread when you sat down. Name was Del Frisco's. It was a was quality steakhouse, run by a madman.

Posted by: javems at September 24, 2023 06:51 PM (8I4hW)

212 Too bad about Zingerman's. I worked there way, WAY back in the day and I can't imagine Paul and Ari, foodies extraordinaire though they were, not laughing at a $250 turkey. They were all about primo gourmet foodstuffs but it was tempered by their love of good Jewish home cooking and deli fare.

I shudder to think how politicized the Ann Arbor food scene is these days.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 24, 2023 06:51 PM (F+XAG)

213 Paella at the TxMoMe? Seriously? I am sooo glad we are attending, that's one of my favorites!
Posted by: Grateful at September 24, 2023 06:49 PM

Last year's was fantastic. You will not be disappointed.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
**************************
I'm gonna fast for three days before!

Posted by: Grateful at September 24, 2023 06:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

214 Nice reference to R.A.H.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 06:45 PM

Too easy?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

heh, read it the 1st time in the '60s.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 06:53 PM (bhlvH)

215 >Waffle batter involves a touch more oil/shortening..

Posted by: Joe Kidd

I only have the recipe on the back of the Bisquick box
okay thanks
I think waffles with maple syrup are definitely called for this week

also from Amazon I got some of those little espresso mugs
I feel like an aging mafia don when I sip

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 06:53 PM (geLO8)

216 Grateful. Paella Friday and shrimp boil on Saturday.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:53 PM (Iahxz)

217 AZdeplorable, as sous chef you are in charge of the non seafood selection
Posted by: Ben Had

I might have to wear a chef's hat!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 06:53 PM (bhlvH)

218 Never without it. Also made in South Africa, which Marmite is darker, almost black and better?
Posted by: Ciampino
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Sort of like African brewed Guinness (Nigeria?) I've been told, never had it myself.

Posted by: From about that Time at September 24, 2023 06:54 PM (4780s)

219 Grateful. Paella Friday and shrimp boil on Saturday.
Posted by: Ben Had
*********************
Now you're talking. If you need any kitchen assistance, count me in. Anything for the cause!

Posted by: Grateful at September 24, 2023 06:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

220 >>> If someone were to want to get into homemade pizza making in a less then hardcore method of wrapping a rubber hose around the forearm then moving directly to the intravenous injection of hard drugs (Trainspotting reference) the thing to buy is a frozen pizza. They suck. But from that base you can add olive oil, garlic, tomato sauce, mushrooms, your own blend of cheeses. Do that for a while. Find out what works for you.

From there you make your own dough, but I'm sorry - if you voted for Joe Biden the subject is much too complex for you. Stick with 'Dine and Dash' pizza.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

If lazy I get a wal-mart ready to cook pizza and docter it up big time.
But usually I have a bunch of dough frozen. Usually make about twenty pounds at a time and scale into 16 oz balls.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 24, 2023 06:55 PM (ga8qR)

221 Paella Friday and shrimp boil on Saturday.

Yum. Sounds awesome.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2023 06:55 PM (V8he0)

222 The Marmite on Amazon is from UK

they also have something called "Sanitarium Marmite" which is from New Zealand

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 06:57 PM (geLO8)

223 My family’s demands at Thanksgiving two of their pies which runs me around $140. They are nine inch pies in aluminum pans.
Posted by: Jen the original

Wow.
Too bad Costco's are larger than 9" or you could slip one into last years pie pan!
You know the 6 dollar ones!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 24, 2023 06:57 PM (bhlvH)

224 The weather today is bizarre, a stream of rain is just parked over the county.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2023 06:58 PM (fwDg9)

225 221 Paella Friday and shrimp boil on Saturday.

Yum. Sounds awesome.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2023 06:55 PM (V8he0)

Not going to the MoMe this year...ugh!

Wife has a business trip the same weekend.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 24, 2023 06:58 PM (0ZNRo)

226 Hey, all,

ON the topic of food: Someone suggested that I visit the Aldi store we have now in our western suburbs. On Saturday morning I did. The exurban store I'd visited about a year ago was very similar. This time I came away with romaine lettuce, some bacon and cheese and cookies, plus a microwave pot pie -- all for less than $20. I don't recall the last time I spent *only* $20 at the grocery. Maybe in April of 2020.

Aldi will have to be a regular shop stop for me, at least twice a month and maybe more.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 24, 2023 06:58 PM (omVj0)

227 For the mon seafood. People on Saturday we will cook you a filet

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:59 PM (Iahxz)

228 >My family’s demands at Thanksgiving two of their pies which runs me around $140. They are nine inch pies in aluminum pans.

wait
that's $70 a pie
that must be some good f***ing pie

-Vincent Vega

Posted by: DB - man of leisure suits at September 24, 2023 06:59 PM (geLO8)

229 Grateful. Paella Friday and shrimp boil on Saturday.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 06:53 PM

Aww, yeah!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 24, 2023 06:59 PM (aQy7p)

230 Aldi is one of my regular stops for certain staples. Prices can't be beat. Only thing I won't buy there is their cream cheese.

Posted by: Grateful at September 24, 2023 06:59 PM (IQ6Gq)

231 WEASEL,'S FAMOUS GUN THREAD IS NOOD

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2023 07:01 PM (fwDg9)

232 *dreaming of that delicious paella crust at the bottom of the pan*

Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 24, 2023 07:04 PM (F+XAG)

233 DB - Bisquick probably is better suited for waffles than pancakes. The resultant flakiness is what you want. Following the directions on the box, you should be good to go.

Pancakes require only 1/2 tsp baking soda and 1/2 tsp of baking powder to each cup pf flour.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 24, 2023 07:05 PM (37q3K)

234 Eris, Oct yes?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 24, 2023 07:07 PM (Iahxz)

235 This whole beer can chicken is fantastic! I feel as if I'm being serviced by Meghan Markle and Harry is clapping and spectating.

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