Mid-Morning Art Thread
William Blake This is another version of one I posted a long time ago. Blake was one weird dude!
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 02, 2023 09:29 AM (Zz0t1)
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Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2023 09:31 AM (YIVH2)
I've learned not to have expectations for The Art Thread.
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Suns it up too !
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Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2023 09:35 AM (IG4Id)
We'll never know, but our own imaginations will fill in the gaps, depending on just how dark we can go...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2023 09:35 AM (YIVH2)
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I don't get paid enough for this shit.
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Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2023 09:35 AM (SYTee)
Indeed. Ian Holm did a good job and I liked... William(?)... dammit. William Peterson.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 09:37 AM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 09:38 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: The Book of Revelation at October 02, 2023 09:38 AM (NBVIP)
You'd have at least 30 minutes to contemplate it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 02, 2023 09:38 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 02, 2023 09:37 AM (NpAcC)
Well, William Blake.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 09:38 AM (zZu0s)
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Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan, she's still free! at October 02, 2023 09:39 AM (PujQp)
Posted by: zombie william blake at October 02, 2023 09:39 AM (krqg6)
You'd have at least 30 minutes to contemplate it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 02, 2023 09:38 AM (Q4IgG)
My doc removed the clock from the waiting room.
Posted by: BignJames at October 02, 2023 09:39 AM (AwYPR)
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at October 02, 2023 09:40 AM (45fpk)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 09:38 AM (xTRSc)
Mom made scallops once by marinating them in Italian dressing. I love scallops when I go out to eat, but they have never equaled how tasty that one time she made them was.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 09:40 AM (zZu0s)
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Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 02, 2023 09:40 AM (8sMut)
Posted by: Wally at October 02, 2023 09:40 AM (hqVaF)
See this is what happened before Gary Gygax normalized all this fantasy stuff. Dragons are big lizards not guys with wings.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2023 09:40 AM (XqcwY)
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Posted by: Chicken-Ram-Lizard Man at October 02, 2023 09:41 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 02, 2023 09:41 AM (KZaqS)
Hint: We call her the Blessed Virgin.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at October 02, 2023 09:41 AM (BHrzb)
Posted by: javems at October 02, 2023 09:39 AM (8I4hW)
The entertainment company I worked for did some licensed products for Giger. Dude was a trip. Lived in a isolated chalet and had a man servant.
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023 09:42 AM (OgrpQ)
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Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023
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The painting itself is an important plot point in the novel. Red Dragon was the first of Thomas Harris's serial killer stories, and the first to have Lecter -- though he has only a small role in this novel, and in the earlier movie, Manhunter.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:42 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher
Indeed.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan, she's still free! at October 02, 2023 09:42 AM (PujQp)
Posted by: Flaming Dragon at October 02, 2023 09:43 AM (SYTee)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher
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Maybe he's too busy helping out a poor soldier in Korea...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2023 09:43 AM (YIVH2)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:42 AM (J2vNu)
Thanks, I was familiar with Heronimous Bosch but never had seen any of Williams Blake's work until watching the movie.
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023 09:44 AM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: Flaming Dragon at October 02, 2023 09:43 AM (SYTee)
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We have Les Grossman....
Posted by: Hollywood Producers at October 02, 2023 09:44 AM (YIVH2)
Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2023
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Indeed. Ian Holm did a good job and I liked... William(?)... dammit. William Peterson.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023
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Was Holm in Manhunter? Brian Cox played Lecter in his few scenes in that movie. Holm would have made a fascinating Lecter, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:44 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Sponge
Manifestation of the genderless, atypical, progressive. Xer/xis expression is the oh sh*t moment when they realize they are phuced right along with the rest of us. Satan's appetite is never satisfied.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 02, 2023 09:45 AM (GNK5y)
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Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher
Indeed.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan, she's still free! at October 02, 2023 09:42 AM (PujQp)
That's the kind of toxic masculinity she was requesting.
A Large, winged, pissed off angel with a giant, flaming sword/spear to do some serious smiting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 09:45 AM (zZu0s)
12 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was pregnant and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.
The Red Dragon, Satan
3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads were seven crowns. 4 And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven and hurled them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her Child.
The Male Child, Christ
5 And she gave birth to a Son, a male, who is going to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her Child was caught up to God and to His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for 1,260 days.
Posted by: The Book of Revelation, Chapter 12 at October 02, 2023 09:45 AM (NBVIP)
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023
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Look up Blake's "Ghost of a Flea."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:45 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 02, 2023 09:45 AM (uhTu8)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:44 AM (J2vNu)
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Ian Holm can play a pretty disturbing villain...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 02, 2023 09:46 AM (YIVH2)
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Sous-vide machine salesman??
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 09:47 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:44 AM (J2vNu)
Dammit. You are right.
Why did I think Holm? Maybe From Hell?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 09:47 AM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:45 AM (J2vNu)
Whoa, big into Satanic iconography. Falling star reference and all. I bet he has a lot of fans who were epstein clients.
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023 09:48 AM (OgrpQ)
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Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 02, 2023
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The serial killer Francis Dolarhyde -- the Tooth Fairy, as the news media called him -- does eat the painting in the novel. I don't remember if he does in the earlier Manhunter movie. I've never seen the remake.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:49 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 02, 2023 09:48 AM (uhTu
666? Only if she's 5'3".
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023 09:50 AM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: Gauntlet thrown. Or something. at October 02, 2023 09:51 AM (lR6tR)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:51 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 09:51 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Gauntlet thrown. Or something
Old Ed did okay. Ralph Feinnes was great in my recollection (it's been a while, though).
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 02, 2023 09:52 AM (1Tjjv)
https://tinyurl.com/4nxhykwh
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 09:54 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: DaveA at October 02, 2023 09:54 AM (FhXTo)
Posted by: OCBill at October 02, 2023 09:54 AM (SUECK)
12 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was pregnant and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.
Posted by: The Book of Revelation, Chapter 12 at October 02, 2023 09:45 AM (NBVIP)
Catholics typically interpret the woman here as being Mary. Hence Jesus referring to her as "Woman" in a titular fashion at the Wedding of Cana, and references in Genesis "And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed".
Collective pregnancy, labor, and birth seems like a relative stretch.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 02, 2023 09:55 AM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Gauntlet thrown. Or something
Did he forget to address the ball?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 09:55 AM (xTRSc)
Pistol wielding a 12 gauge.
Posted by: DaveA at October 02, 2023 09:54 AM (FhXTo)
Hellboy?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 09:55 AM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:55 AM (J2vNu)
"First you address, Satan."
"Heeellllooo, Satan!" [swings golf club]
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 09:56 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: DaveA at October 02, 2023 09:56 AM (FhXTo)
Since 2006 they have been fighting the survivors of a Jewish artist killed at Dachau over the possession of a sketch.
The sketch is called "Girl With Black Hair." Artist is Egon Schiele. Estimated value is $1.5 million.
Article found at Legal Insurrection.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 09:57 AM (5WZCt)
What the Media & Big Pharma Won't Tell You About the Pfizer Clinical Trials: For every life they save by preventing a death from COVID, they are killing four people from cardiac arrest
Posted by: SMOD at October 02, 2023 09:57 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan, she's still free! at October 02, 2023 09:58 AM (Ro3yS)
I once saw on a Catholic website that the idea of Mary having labor pains goes against Catholic doctrine, since labor pains were imposed on women as punishment for Eve's sin, but the Virgin Mary was sinless.
I'm not Catholic, so I don't know what the doctrine is. But I saw this on a very conservative Catholic site.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 09:58 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: OCBill at October 02, 2023
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Both it and Lambs are superb. They cast adult me back to my boyhood reading, when I read grownup books like the Bond novels not only for the adventure, but to learn things about the world adults wouldn't tell me. The "inside" details about serial killers and their practices . . . brrrr.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:59 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 09:59 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: SMOD at October 02, 2023 10:00 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2023 10:00 AM (XqcwY)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan, she's still free! at October 02, 2023 09:58 AM (Ro3yS)
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Hmmmm!
Posted by: Ciampino - a lot of bull at October 02, 2023 10:01 AM (qfLjt)
I'm not Catholic, so I don't know what the doctrine is. But I saw this on a very conservative Catholic site.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 09:58 AM (xTRSc)
got to admit, once i left catholic school i didn't study too deeply, but i never even KNEW this sort of thing was debated.
especially as it's not something that could remotely be shown one way or another.
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 02, 2023 10:01 AM (KZaqS)
I was doing some research into the development of my neighborhood back in the day. My house in particular was built in '68 and first sold for $21,200, and the median income for this area was about $7600. Today the house worth about 12X and the median income is about 15X. Inflation; how does it even work?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 02, 2023 09:16 AM (YRsIm)
We purchased our house, three bedroom ranch, full basemant, 1/2 acre corner lot, for $39,000 in 1974. Former owner paid $29,000 in 1969. House originally sold for $17,900 in 1959. Now, we were offered $365,000. But, at our age, we're staying in place.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at October 02, 2023 10:01 AM (Zvtjl)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan, she's still free! at October 02, 2023 09:58 AM (Ro3yS)
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That goes without saying.
Posted by: Frederick Frankenstein at October 02, 2023 10:01 AM (ScR16)
Since 2006 they have been fighting the survivors of a Jewish artist killed at Dachau over the possession of a sketch.
The sketch is called "Girl With Black Hair." Artist is Egon Schiele. Estimated value is $1.5 million.
Article found at Legal Insurrection.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 09:57 AM (5WZCt)
https://tinyurl.com/bdd8etsy
Can't say I particularly like the work, but Oberlin are a bunch of commie assholes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 10:01 AM (zZu0s)
I know...right? Rorschach is not the hero people!
Posted by: Alan Moore at October 02, 2023 10:02 AM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 10:01 AM (zZu0s)
And Nazi punks too it seems.
Posted by: They can fuck off at October 02, 2023 10:02 AM (lR6tR)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2023 10:00 AM (XqcwY)
Gary Gygax and Ral Partha approved.
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023 10:02 AM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 02, 2023 10:02 AM (8sMut)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 09:59 AM (J2vNu)
Hannibal is horrible shit. One of the worst cases of the author impugning his own characters I have seen.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 10:02 AM (zZu0s)
https://mol.im/a/12540653
Posted by: Ciampino - a lot of bull ... at October 02, 2023 10:03 AM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 10:04 AM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023 10:01 AM (zZu0s)
Wasn't one of them a twat waffle sports broadcaster as ESPN? Keith Oberlin?
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023 10:04 AM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 02, 2023 10:05 AM (2O5Io)
They will return a Nez Pierce twine bag but not a sketch created by a Jewish artist.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:06 AM (5WZCt)
/obligatory SNL Church Lady (Dana Carvey)
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp
Well isn't that special?
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 02, 2023 10:06 AM (2yUKc)
https://www.wikiart.org/en/william-blake
Including, given today's theme...
https://tinyurl.com/mr3wef8j
Archangel Raphael with Adam and Eve
William Blake
Date: 1808
Style: Symbolism
Genre: religious painting
Media: watercolor
Dimensions: 50 x 40 cm
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:06 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: SMOD at October 02, 2023 10:08 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: fd at October 02, 2023 10:08 AM (NkNCg)
Posted by: Erik In Texas at October 02, 2023 10:09 AM (8nPz7)
Hannibal is horrible shit. One of the worst cases of the author impugning his own characters I have seen.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 02, 2023
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True. I don't have a copy of it on my shelves.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 10:09 AM (J2vNu)
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Once published, the books are out of your hands, Kurt. And the act of observing what is written changes the meaning each time the words are read. Also, readers can be a little nuts.
Posted by: The Observer Effect at October 02, 2023 10:09 AM (m3fzK)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 02, 2023 10:10 AM (ScR16)
Out: Breathing fire
In: Sorry you need to submit form 17A Schedule B in this line. You can go to the back of THAT line to get it. NEXT
Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2023 10:11 AM (XqcwY)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2023 10:11 AM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:11 AM (5WZCt)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2023 10:12 AM (XqcwY)
Posted by: fd at October 02, 2023 10:08 AM (NkNCg)
What kind of car does a dragon drive?
Posted by: spindrift at October 02, 2023 10:12 AM (G2KPu)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:13 AM (5WZCt)
Posted by: Strong Bad at October 02, 2023 10:13 AM (XqcwY)
Posted by: spindrift at October 02, 2023 10:12 AM (G2KPu)
BATMOBILE
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2023 10:13 AM (pVWRI)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:14 AM (5WZCt)
Posted by: Erik In Texas at October 02, 2023 10:14 AM (8nPz7)
Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2023 10:11 AM (XqcwY)------
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Don't forget the 27B stroke 6.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 02, 2023 10:14 AM (ScR16)
Posted by: spindrift at October 02, 2023 10:12 AM (G2KPu)
ANY. KIND. IT. WANTS.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 02, 2023 10:14 AM (N3zMI)
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 02, 2023 10:15 AM (2yUKc)
Posted by: spindrift at October 02, 2023 10:12 AM (G2KPu)
A Dragon Wagon
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023 10:15 AM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: spindrift at October 02, 2023 10:12 AM (G2KPu)
1976 Ford Pinto
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at October 02, 2023 10:16 AM (OgrpQ)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 10:16 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 10:16 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan, she's still free! at October 02, 2023 10:16 AM (Ja3qS)
When I saw Gavin Newsom appointed a black female lesbian to the Senate, I automatically knew she was qualified.
Thank you Gavin for not considering race, gender, or sexual preference in your choice.
This is what equality looks like.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:16 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at October 02, 2023 10:15 AM (2yUKc)
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Fun fact: the Firebird driven by Darryl Hannah in "Kill Bill" was her own car.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 02, 2023 10:17 AM (ScR16)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 02, 2023 10:17 AM (uSHSS)
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Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 02, 2023 10:18 AM (aD39U)
Did you catch the first four episodes of Frieren or the first of Shangri-La Frontier on Crunchyroll yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:19 AM (5WZCt)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2023 10:19 AM (0ZsQR)
Posted by: Strong Bad at October 02, 2023 10:13 AM (XqcwY)
I said consummate Vs! Consummate! Consummate!
Posted by: Burninatin the countryside at October 02, 2023 10:19 AM (lR6tR)
It's an interesting painting and I appreciate the symbolism, I think, but wouldn't hang it.
Thanks.
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at October 02, 2023 10:19 AM (GshMh)
I could stand those protocols being reinstated. But just for the DMV.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:20 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:20 AM (5WZCt)
I said consummate Vs! Consummate! Consummate!
Posted by: Burninatin the countryside at October 02, 2023 10:19 AM (lR6tR)
That guy wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face....
Posted by: Strong Bad at October 02, 2023 10:21 AM (XqcwY)
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/0UVGNStMc6o
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 02, 2023 10:21 AM (FVME7)
Posted by: Archer at October 02, 2023 09:33 AM
Same as attending public school.
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at October 02, 2023 10:21 AM (GshMh)
Supposedly, his wife once said, "I have very little of Mr. Blake's company. He is always in paradise."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:21 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Francis Dollarhyde at October 02, 2023 10:22 AM (43xH1)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 02, 2023 10:22 AM (iupH6)
Posted by: Strong Bad at October 02, 2023 10:13 AM (XqcwY)
I said consummate Vs! Consummate! Consummate!
Posted by: Burninatin the countryside at October 02, 2023 10:19 AM (lR6tR)
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And the Trogdor comes in the niiiiiIiIIIIiiiiIIIIght!!!!!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 02, 2023 10:22 AM (ScR16)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:23 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:23 AM (5WZCt)
It's Costing Peanuts for the US to Defeat Russia. For 5.6% of the US defense budget, the US through supplying Ukraine has largely destroyed or crippled Putin's military and has destroyed the myth that Russia is a major military power. Plus, a lot of the $$ are actually going to US defense contractors!
That article could have been written by a 1990's Bush era Neocon. Kristol, Daddy Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld would be overjoyed. The US should be paying 10 or 20% max... with Europe paying up big.
The left supports Ukraine because we believe in Democracy. Some on the right support Ukraine because it helps further US power in the world by eroding Russian power.
Republicans shut down our government over funding Ukraine. Republicans are friends of authoritarian Russia because Putin helped usher in Trump.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 02, 2023 10:24 AM (JCZqz)
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It would be interesting to see a trend comparing people playing the lottery between 2016-2020 and 2021 until now.
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at October 02, 2023 10:24 AM (8D7Iu)
Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at October 02, 2023 10:24 AM (NBVIP)
What the Media & Big Pharma Won't Tell You About the Pfizer Clinical Trials: For every life they save by preventing a death from COVID, they are killing four people from cardiac arrest
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The Nobel Prizes for Literature and Peace have been flagrantly political for years, why stop now?
Posted by: exdem13 at October 02, 2023 10:25 AM (W+kMI)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:25 AM (xTRSc)
British talking head, "The Kwangtung Army was a bunch of war mongering lunatics."
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:25 AM (5WZCt)
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Or Paradise Lost??
[See #124]
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:26 AM (krqg6)
I could stand those protocols being reinstated. But just for the DMV.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Did you have to wear a mask?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2023 10:26 AM (63Dwl)
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It's a travesty of a sham of a hoax of a fraud!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 02, 2023 10:26 AM (FVME7)
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Wow.
We're not even in a war and we're giving them over 5% of the defense budget free and clear, with no accountability or expectations.
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at October 02, 2023 10:26 AM (8D7Iu)
The idea that Mary did not experience the pains of labor is usually deduced from the fact that she was conceived without original sin (CCC 490-493). Since a consequence of original sin is bearing children in pain (Gen. 3:16), it seems fitting that Mary, who was preserved from the stain of original sin, would not experience its consequences.
The Church teaches that Mary’s virginal integrity remained in tact during the birth of Jesus (CCC 499, citing Lumen Gentium 57). It seems to follow, therefore, that she would have been free of labor pains.
One Scripture passage that many have looked to is Isaiah 66:7: “Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.”
Posted by: Iris at October 02, 2023 10:26 AM (n3DL0)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 02, 2023 10:27 AM (CnLzB)
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Trump trolls DU!!!
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:27 AM (krqg6)
The BMV and license bureau here had no lines at all. When we walked in the folks behind the counter said:
"How may I help you?" and smiled!
SMILED!!!
I know, I couldn't believe it either.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 02, 2023 10:27 AM (qoGsy)
Probably. I don't remember. But my time there was so brief that I didn't fuss about it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:27 AM (xTRSc)
Identity politics and PACs trump Californians' right to representation.
Posted by: SMOD at October 02, 2023 10:27 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2023 10:27 AM (63Dwl)
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They are now. Black Lesbians have been officially cool among the Woke now for several years. See the recent He-Man fanfic series for one, and other such projects. For the Left, life imitates art.
Posted by: exdem13 at October 02, 2023 10:28 AM (W+kMI)
Uke retired bureaucrats need that money more then you do peon.
Posted by: The GOPe at October 02, 2023 10:28 AM (XqcwY)
I think his wife thought he was touched by God and just accepted his extreme quirkiness.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2023 10:28 AM (gJm12)
Eco-Vandals deface the Brandenburg Gates. Suddenly German forced labor organizations make a lot of sense.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:28 AM (5WZCt)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2023 10:29 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:29 AM (5WZCt)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2023 10:30 AM (i9ffA)
Posted by: SMOD at October 02, 2023 10:30 AM (RHGPo)
I'm not Catholic, so I don't know what the doctrine is. But I saw this on a very conservative Catholic site.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 09:58 AM (xTRSc)
There's no dogma on it afaik. But there is certainly an ancient tradition that it was painless which iirc is at least as old as the protoevangelium of James.
Another side note on Mary's role as regarded by Catholics, the "beloved disciple" in the Book of John is usually also read to be a figurative reference to the audience, beyond also literally being John.
So "When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!”" positions her as a maternal figure for everyone.
We again see the use of Woman, which as I understand is clearer in tongues other than English to be an intentional reference.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 02, 2023 10:30 AM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 02, 2023 10:30 AM (ScR16)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:31 AM (xTRSc)
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Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 02, 2023 10:31 AM (mFDK+)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:32 AM (xTRSc)
The cases of suspicious infections in the Ukrainian army that are difficult to treat are most probably connected with the operation of US biolaboratories in Ukraine, the deputy speaker of the State Duma, Irina Yarovaya, has said. "The Pentagon’s bio-laboratories in Ukraine are with a high degree of probability the source of infection of Ukrainian soldiers," said Yarovaya, a co-chair of the parliamentary commission for investigating the activities of US laboratories in Ukraine.
Posted by: SMOD at October 02, 2023 10:32 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:33 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2023 10:29 AM (63Dwl)
"At least someone from our own state?"
-Californians
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2023 10:33 AM (N39Ws)
Yet that is not how the story ends,
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at October 02, 2023 10:33 AM (7rzgu)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2023 10:33 AM (K7FU5)
Nobel Prizes: Kariko and Weissman, pioneers of COVID vaccine, win medicine award (by Ludwig Burger and Niklas Pollard)
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at October 02, 2023 10:33 AM (GshMh)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 02, 2023 10:34 AM (l10hq)
In one annotated Bible that I have, it says that the term "Woman," as used by Jesus to address May, e.g. at the wedding in Cana, is a term of respect, without the slightly derogatory connotation it might have today.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:34 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at October 02, 2023 10:33 AM (7rzgu)
She's got a back up in an ankle holster?
Posted by: BignJames at October 02, 2023 10:35 AM (AwYPR)
I've seen it speculated that the "beloved disciple" could also be Lazarus, though he was not one of the 12.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:36 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at October 02, 2023 10:33 AM (7rzgu)
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Tolkien coined a word for what you described. Eucatastrophe.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 02, 2023 10:36 AM (ScR16)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:36 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 02, 2023 10:36 AM (vf0Uk)
Why a US Recession Is Still Likely — and Coming Soon
The government is staying open for now. But Bloomberg Economics sees risks ahead, from strikes to higher rates and oil prices.
Posted by: SMOD at October 02, 2023 10:36 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2023 10:36 AM (NxC5+)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2023 10:36 AM (mupln)
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Would be interesting. House elects majority leader in the senate, senate elects house speaker. And the two of them appoint all cabinet secretaries.
🤣
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 10:36 AM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:37 AM (5WZCt)
"How may I help you?" and smiled!
SMILED!!!
I know, I couldn't believe it either.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 02, 2023
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Pretty much my experience in suburban Denver in 1997. They even had a satellite office near my work that opened at -- brace yourself -- 7:00 AM!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 10:37 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 02, 2023 10:38 AM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:39 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 02, 2023 10:39 AM (vf0Uk)
Blake was centuries ahead of the drug culture.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 02, 2023
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"Tyger! Tyger! Burning bright
In the forests of the night --"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 10:39 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 02, 2023
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In the secret closet with the passageway leading from Rosemary and Guy's place.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 10:40 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 02, 2023 10:40 AM (qPw5n)
Posted by: look whats not at October 02, 2023 10:41 AM (nakGR)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 02, 2023 10:42 AM (iupH6)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 02, 2023
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In the secret closet with the passageway leading from Rosemary and Guy's place.
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As long as you eat the "chocolate mouse," you won't notice it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2023 10:42 AM (mupln)
Interesting fact about Milton. Apparently, he was an Arian -- that is, he believed that the Son was a later creation of, and thus subordinate to, the Father.
I love Paradise Lost, I but I think it's lost some luster for me since I found that out.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:42 AM (xTRSc)
"How may I help you?" and smiled!
SMILED!!!
I know, I couldn't believe it either.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 02, 2023 "
You're in TN right? This gives me hope for my upcoming visit to get a TN driver's license.
Posted by: Tuna at October 02, 2023 10:42 AM (oaGWv)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at October 02, 2023 10:43 AM (LvTSG)
On the target board at the range.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 02, 2023 10:43 AM (uSHSS)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 02, 2023 10:44 AM (VwHCD)
Posted by: Tuna at October 02, 2023 10:42 AM (oaGWv)
He's in rural mid-east Tennessee.
Your experience may vary in Nashville or Memphis.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 02, 2023 10:45 AM (4/GJJ)
I've been offline a few days and the German papers have nothing. What happened at the Brandenburg Gate?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 02, 2023 10:45 AM (CnLzB)
Posted by: Tuna
Yes! They ended the conversation with "Welcome to Tennessee."
Just like America use to be - amazing.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 02, 2023 10:45 AM (qoGsy)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 02, 2023 10:45 AM (CnLzB)
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Apparently, it was vandalized by eco-nuts.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 02, 2023 10:46 AM (ScR16)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 02, 2023
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The Chancellor lost her key?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 10:46 AM (J2vNu)
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He won both in a landslide. IIRC Georgia was won with 11K votes, and there were 17K votes found in one county alone that had no chain of custody or documentation. Made up out of whole cloth.
Arizona had 30K+ votes from illegal aliens (maybe just Maricopa County alone), and IIRC the state was won by 17K votes.
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at October 02, 2023 10:46 AM (8D7Iu)
Posted by: Tooth Fairy at October 02, 2023 10:47 AM (PXj64)
14 have been arrested and the investigation continues apace.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 02, 2023 10:47 AM (5WZCt)
Instead, the author prefers to identify himself as the disciple “whom Jesus loved” (13:23; 19:26; 20:2; 21:7, 20). The absence of any mention of John’s name directly is remarkable when one considers the important part played by other named disciples in this Gospel. Yet, the recurring designation of himself as the disciple “whom Jesus loved,” a deliberate avoidance by John of his personal name, reflects his humility and celebrates his relation to his Lord Jesus. No mention of his name was necessary since his original readers clearly understood that he was the Gospel’s author. Also, through a process of elimination based primarily on analyzing the material in chs. 20–21, this disciple “whom Jesus loved” narrows down to the apostle John (e.g., 21:24; cf. 21:2). Since the Gospel’s author is exacting in mentioning the names of other characters in the book, if the author had been someone other than John the apostle, he would not have omitted John’s name.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 02, 2023 10:47 AM (5iCZZ)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:47 AM (xTRSc)
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/0UVGNStMc6o
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Watched that video. I can't unsee the resemblance now. MAGA 2024
Posted by: exdem13 at October 02, 2023 10:47 AM (W+kMI)
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2023 10:48 AM (NxC5+)
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at October 02, 2023 10:48 AM (8D7Iu)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:48 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:48 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 02, 2023 10:48 AM (5iCZZ)
Interesting fact about Milton. Apparently, he was an Arian -- that is, he believed that the Son was a later creation of, and thus subordinate to, the Father.
I love Paradise Lost, I but I think it's lost some luster for me since I found that out.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:42 AM (xTRSc)
Arianism is why the Latin/western Church has the filioque. Which while stressed as a difference that contributed to the Great Schism, I think is overexaggerated. Practically speaking the events look a lot more like the Anglican Church, issues with Byzantine emperors deposing and appointing their own patriarchs.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 02, 2023 10:48 AM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:49 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 02, 2023 10:49 AM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2023 10:42 AM (mupln)
Now with more chalky undertaste!
Posted by: What have you done to my dessert you MANIACS!!?? at October 02, 2023 10:49 AM (lR6tR)
Posted by: BignJames at October 02, 2023 10:50 AM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 09:15 AM (bWsRe
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You are insanely out of touch.
Even as a national average, since the 70s, house prices have tripled to near quadrupled.
Wages over that same span, have barely doubled.
That's the average--counting those houses in Nowhere.
Price a 2,000 sqft house in Houston or Nashville and tell me how someone on the average salary can buy that and raise kids.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 02, 2023 10:50 AM (WxSX0)
Posted by: Wm. Blake at October 02, 2023 10:51 AM (J2vNu)
The writer's have been on strike.
Lots of reruns.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 02, 2023 10:51 AM (4/GJJ)
Wages over that same span, have barely doubled.
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Median household income in 1975 was $13k. It’s $70k today. I’d say incomes have more than “barely doubled” since the 70s.
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 10:52 AM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 02, 2023 10:48 AM (5iCZZ)
Yeah, got a cousin that says he was Grandma's fave grandchild.
Posted by: BignJames at October 02, 2023 10:52 AM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 02, 2023 10:48 AM (5iCZZ)
Time to catch up on the gnostics. That was Mary Magdalene.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 02, 2023 10:52 AM (CnLzB)
Breaking911
@Breaking911
AOC: "I vociferously disagree with any assertion that progressivism is somehow incompatible with fiscal responsibility."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 02, 2023 10:53 AM (FVME7)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 02, 2023 10:53 AM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 10:52 AM (bWsRe)
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Median house price in 1970 was $17,000. It's now over $300,000.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at October 02, 2023 10:53 AM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 02, 2023
It was a lot of things. I think a lot of it boils down to differences in language and culture, and the Patriarchs' refusal to acknowledge the primacy of the Pope.
When the Reformation got underway, a lot of Protestants thought that they could make common cause with the Orthodox, and, indeed there was one Patriarch of Constantinople, Cyril Lukaris, who is sometimes called the "Protestant Patriarch" because he was so sympathetic to their views. But, in general, the Protestants wildly overestimated the support their views enjoyed in the Orthodox world.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:53 AM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2023 10:53 AM (izj35)
The Babylon Bee @TheBabylonBee 19h
Church Elder Pulls Fire Alarm To Delay Vote On New Carpet
buff.ly/46adAXx
/joke
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:54 AM (krqg6)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2023 10:54 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 02, 2023
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Now with more chalky undertaste!
Posted by: What have you done to my dessert you MANIACS!!?? at October 02, 2023
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It's funny. I read that novel way back when it first came out in paperback, and (not being an SF or fantasy fan much then) was sort of disappointed in it. My mother found it horrible. A decade or more later I reread it, and appreciated Ira Levin's writing style, his portrait of mid-Sixties Manhattan, how he skilfully worked both big things and small into the narrative, and his handling of Rosemary's dreams. Those not only unsettle us, but give us crucial information about the plot forming around her.
Posted by: Wm. Blake at October 02, 2023 10:54 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 02, 2023 10:56 AM (tjClK)
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The average home price in 1975 was $39,000.
The average home sale in 2023 in $416,000.
So while income (now more often with two working adults) has increased 5 fold, housing prices have increased 10 fold.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 02, 2023 10:56 AM (4/GJJ)
NBC News
@NBCNews
Student loan payments restart today, forcing borrowers to take on more debt and put off saving for retirement
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 02, 2023 10:56 AM (FVME7)
Posted by: creeper at October 02, 2023 10:56 AM (cTCuP)
Median household income in 1975 was $13k. It’s $70k today. I’d say incomes have more than “barely doubled” since the 70s.
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 10:52 AM (bWsRe)
You aren't accounting for inflation. Per the BLS CPI calculator $13,000 in 1975 had the same buying power as $76,609.17 today. So no, in terms of buying power no doubling. It's been essentially stagnant.
Posted by: You're way off at October 02, 2023 10:56 AM (lR6tR)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 02, 2023 10:57 AM (N3zMI)
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Is that a current dollar amount, or a 1975 dollar amount?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 02, 2023 10:58 AM (ScR16)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 02, 2023 10:58 AM (4/GJJ)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 02, 2023 10:58 AM (8sMut)
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2023 10:59 AM (NxC5+)
Sliders, charts, all kinds of good stuff.
dqydj.com/historical-home-prices/
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at October 02, 2023 10:59 AM (8D7Iu)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 02, 2023 10:48 AM (5iCZZ)
Time to catch up on the gnostics. That was Mary Magdalene.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 02, 2023 10:52 AM (CnLzB)
*Heresy detected*
*Dispatching the Ordos*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 02, 2023 11:00 AM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Eromero at October 02, 2023 10:59 AM (NxC5+)
Unless it's black Democrat
Posted by: Unqualified immunity at October 02, 2023 11:00 AM (lR6tR)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 02, 2023 11:00 AM (qPw5n)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at October 02, 2023 10:53 AM (LvTSG)
Let’s compare apples to apples.
In 1970 median HH income was $8730 (per census). Median house price (per census) was $23,400. So about a 3:1 ratio. Today the ratio is 4-5:1. So yeah more expensive relatively speaking but not as much as some would suggest.
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 11:00 AM (bWsRe)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 02, 2023 11:00 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 02, 2023 11:00 AM (4/GJJ)
Median house price $11.9k
Median househould income $5.6k
Ratio: 2.1
2020
Median house price $330k
Median househould income $67.5k
Ratio: 4.9
So the cost of a house compared to salary has more then doubled in real dollars
Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2023 11:01 AM (XqcwY)
It was a lot of things. I think a lot of it boils down to differences in language and culture, and the Patriarchs' refusal to acknowledge the primacy of the Pope.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:53 AM (xTRSc)
The initial schism(Photian) and ones thereafter started with the Patriarch of Constantinople being replaced by the Emperor.
The primacy of the Pope is less disputed in early years, it is ecumenical councils that gradually elevated Constantinople, with the specific canons themselves being hotly contested.
Power struggles between different levels of the Church aren't that unusual and don't get as much mention in the histories. The East tended to view the Roman Empire as the Kingdom of God, with the Emperor as its living head, which is now a dead narrative. The modern accounting of the conflict is in my view anachronistic, mostly taking the Ottoman controlled Patriarch's position at face value.
Russian Orthodoxy's narrative is itself quite a bit different.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 02, 2023 11:01 AM (eYoxG)
Student loan payments restart today, forcing borrowers to take on more debt and put off saving for retirement
"forcing"
Love how they never trace this back to the job market "forcing" people to have a college degree (HR tool to weed out job applicants), politicians insisting that "everyone go to college!(tm)," colleges for decades raising their tuition rates far above the rate of inflation (far exceed their value in most cases) that has been enabled by the government getting into student loans, etc.
These burdensome college loans didn't just magically happen - a lot of things have made this the norm, up to and including students willingly getting them.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2023 11:01 AM (izj35)
Interesting fact about Milton. Apparently, he was an Arian -- that is, he believed that the Son was a later creation of, and thus subordinate to, the Father.
I love Paradise Lost, I but I think it's lost some luster for me since I found that out.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:42 AM (xTRSc)
If he was, it doesn't show up in his text. Jesus is a badass in Paradise Lost.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 02, 2023 11:01 AM (xcxpd)
Posted by: You're way off at October 02, 2023 10:56 AM (lR6tR)
You’ve proven my point. Purchasing power is no worse today than then.
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 11:01 AM (bWsRe)
The Babylon Bee @TheBabylonBee 19h
Church Elder Pulls Fire Alarm To Delay Vote On New Carpet
buff.ly/46adAXx
/joke
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 02, 2023 10:54 AM (krqg6)
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School principal pulls fire alarm to get a head start on the weekend.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 02, 2023 11:02 AM (uSHSS)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 02, 2023 10:39 AM
He's an artist, too? I've seen Jimmy Dore's YouTube, but had no idea he was so multi-talented.
Posted by: Confused Moron at October 02, 2023 11:02 AM (JCZqz)
Median house price $330k
Median househould income $67.5k
Ratio: 4.9
Oh and as of 2023 that has jumped to $416k...but remember inflation is 7% or something.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2023 11:04 AM (XqcwY)
Posted by: You're way off at October 02, 2023 10:56 AM (lR6tR)
You’ve proven my point. Purchasing power is no worse today than then.
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 11:01 AM (bWsRe)
That wasn't what you said. You said salaries had more than doubled, scorning someone for suggesting otherwise, using raw numbers instead of inflation-adjusted numbers. You can't even keep your lies straight when they're in print. LOL
Posted by: You're a joke dude at October 02, 2023 11:04 AM (lR6tR)
Posted by: Freddie Lounds at October 02, 2023 11:04 AM (aQy7p)
This is of course b******* so here is a good link to throw into Faceplant if you see people pushing this stupidity. It goes to the National Weather Service and is a list of major floods in Albany New York. Starting in 1857.
Refutation. It's a wonderful thing.
weather.gov/aly/MajorFloods
Posted by: Beverly at October 02, 2023 11:10 AM (Epeb0)
1980, inflation adjusted median salary: $64296
Median house price adjusted Oct 2020: $345,015
Median house price adjusted Oct 1980: $210,476
$135k more for a house but you're only making $12k more a year.
JuSt sAVe moor Money, DumMy!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 02, 2023 11:13 AM (WxSX0)
Posted by: Montec at October 02, 2023 09:15 AM (bWsRe
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You are insanely out of touch.
Even as a national average, since the 70s, house prices have tripled to near quadrupled.
Wages over that same span, have barely doubled.
That's the average--counting those houses in Nowhere.
Price a 2,000 sqft house in Houston or Nashville and tell me how someone on the average salary can buy that and raise kids.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 02, 2023 10:50 AM (WxSX0)
Paid $39,000 for our three bedroom ranch with full basement, 1/2 acre corner lot in 1974. Was offered $365,000 for it just recently. We're staying in place.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at October 02, 2023 11:16 AM (Zvtjl)
Freakin' sweet! I was just watching Red Dragon the other night and thought it would be pretty cool if this was posted in the Art Thread.
Thanks for reading my mind, CBD!
Would hang.
Posted by: Robert at October 02, 2023 12:10 PM (VBJYT)
Posted by: clams on the half shell and roller skates, roller skates at October 02, 2023 12:17 PM (kvDvI)
Starts tearing pieces off and stuffing it into his mouth.
Posted by: Landru at October 02, 2023 02:09 PM (mEYVq)
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