Daily Tech News 18 September 2023

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ChatGPT is not coming for your programming job - unless you are a very bad programmer. (Wired)

Programming is hard. Or rather, programming well is hard.

It's rather like painting: Anyone can pick up a brush and do a quick doodle, but Rembrandts are far and few between.

It's actually worse than painting: A painting just has to be pleasing to the eye to be passable (it requires more to be great, of course). A program has to work. And a program of even moderate complexity can be a machine with half a million interoperating components, every one of which exhibits non-linear response.
FORTRAN was supposed to allow scientists and others to write programs without any support from a programmer. COBOL's English syntax was intended to be so simple that managers could bypass developers entirely. Waterfall-based development was invented to standardize and make routine the development of new software. Object-oriented programming was supposed to be so simple that eventually all computer users could do their own software engineering.
None of that happened, because programming is a fairly specific skill.

What did happen is that programmers could use these new tools to accomplish more complicated tasks more quickly.
We've introduced more and more complexity to computers in the hopes of making them so simple that they don't need to be programmed at all. Unsurprisingly, throwing complexity at complexity has only made it worse, and we're no closer to letting managers cut out the software engineers.
ChatGPT - or its open-source successors, like ArbitraryCamelid-7B7 - could make a difference in certain areas such as feature tests and pen-testing. But LLMs won't and can't by their nature replace programmers, because they don't understand what they are doing in the first place.

The LLMs, I mean. Often the programmers too, but the distinction is, not always.

We'd require a different, older, and harder form of AI to do that, and right now nobody is even looking in that direction.

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The Mac didn't bring programming to the people. (Eclectic Light)

Because the people can't program.

That is, most individuals have neither the interest nor the aptitude - the two very often go together. If you do have the interest, you can probably learn.
Catala is a programming language for legislation. (GitHub)

You can annotate laws with code that provides a mathematically precise definition of the requirements and outcomes of the text.

The problem with this is that (a) legislators can't code, (b) lawyers can't code, (c) judges can't code, and (d) laws tend to be deliberately vague. What good is a law if you can't abuse it to your own benefit?
Roblox game developers got duped by malicious NPM packages that used custom compression techniques to sneak past automated filters. (Cyber-Oracle)

How this differs from non-malicious NPM packages I am not sure, because the core problem seems to me to be NPM rather than the hackers.
Embattled game engine developer Unity has closed two offices and canceled an all-hands meeting after receiving death threats... From its own staff. (The Register)

The call is coming from inside the house.
Speaking of malicious packages, remember when Unity merged with malware developer IronSource? (PC Gamer)

That was last year.
Formatting Text in C++: The old and the new ways. (Marius Bancila)

I mostly program in Python these days. I'm about to embark on a project that will require the use of C++, which is rather like swapping an electric chainsaw for a lump of obsidian.

The examples shown here - old and new alike - are hopelessly antiquated nonsense. Not the fault of the author but of the language itself.

Disclaimer: Bleah.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 18, 2023 04:02 AM (5cNfZ)

2 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at September 18, 2023 04:02 AM (fwDg9)

3 Monday

Posted by: Ciampino - just wait till dawn and fire them eastwards at September 18, 2023 04:02 AM (qfLjt)

4 COBOL's English syntax was intended to be so simple that managers could bypass developers entirely.
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You can write COBOL programs to practically read like a book. It makes it very easy to show to managers and developers what you've coded and to get them to confirm that this is what they intended to have done.

And now, back to my assembler coding!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 18, 2023 04:05 AM (5cNfZ)

5 ...managers and ~~developers~~ end users...

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 18, 2023 04:05 AM (5cNfZ)
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FIFM

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 18, 2023 04:07 AM (5cNfZ)

6 One programmer to another: "I'll start coding and you go see what the customers want."

Posted by: Ciampino -- just wait till dawn and fire them eastwards at September 18, 2023 04:07 AM (qfLjt)

7 Embattled game engine developer Unity has closed two offices and canceled an all-hands meeting after receiving death threats... From its own staff. (The Register)

Unity doesn't sound all that united.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 18, 2023 04:09 AM (sAmhv)

8 >>>which is rather like swapping an electric chainsaw for a lump of obsidian

Ha! I don't know how to code, but that's a vivid analogy.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 04:10 AM (Dz9Qm)

9 Still raining

Posted by: Skip at September 18, 2023 04:13 AM (fwDg9)

10
New! New! New! X 1000
Gets on the bus.
Doesn't work.
Under the bus.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 04:13 AM (enJYY)

11 Evening and morning to all the satellites in space!

When I was a programmer in the mid-'90s to and '01, I often thought it had been a job security mistake to make programming languages so accessible. (Not that I minded for me; I started with BASIC and COBOL, and worked with FoxPro and SQL for the most part.) I thought the whole business should have been kept more mysterious and arcane, as if programmers were temple acolytes who took your offering (the manager's report request) and disappeared into the recesses of the temple, eventually to emerge with the gods' largesse (the report). And never should the rituals be spoken of to non-initiates, on pain of excommunication.

Short-sighted, to make the process so visible and accessible to the layman.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 04:13 AM (omVj0)

12 Short-sighted, to make the process so visible and accessible to the layman.

And then it turned out that laymen couldn't understand even when you used words of one syllable and colourful pictures of flowers and puppies.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 18, 2023 04:17 AM (BLOW1)

13 >> after receiving death threats... From its own staff.

Maybe.
From The Register:

•a "threat," reportedly from an employee
•the company said it had been "made aware of a potential threat" against its offices in Austin, Texas, and San Francisco, California
•San Francisco police, which responded to a report from Unity, told Polygon that "an employee made a threat towards his employer using social media."

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 04:18 AM (Dz9Qm)

14
I remember FoxPro, it was a sorta dBase program which eventually Bill Gates bought and then thoroughly dBased it into gone.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 04:20 AM (enJYY)

15 Short-sighted, to make the process so visible and accessible to the layman.

And then it turned out that laymen couldn't understand even when you used words of one syllable and colourful pictures of flowers and puppies.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 18, 2023

***
'Struth. We should have shrouded it with tradition and ceremony, and say mysteriously when asked how we solved the problem: "We may not speak of it."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 04:21 AM (omVj0)

16 I remember FoxPro, it was a sorta dBase program which eventually Bill Gates bought and then thoroughly dBased it into gone.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023

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Parts of FP, its query builder feature, wound up in Access (which I've also used extensively). FoxPro did indeed use the procedural language of dBase, so that older dBase programs could run in it with no-to-minimal modification. Ah, for the '90s . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 04:23 AM (omVj0)

17
Ah, for the '90s . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 04:23 AM

Yup. All the increases in the 90's in workplace productivity - in my case manufacturing. All went out the window from 2000 onward when our 'betters' in government opened up the door to China killing American manufacturing.

I ran a compiler for dBase programs called Clipper.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 04:28 AM (enJYY)

18 Articles on the front page of The Register are full of doom.

https://www.theregister.com

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 04:36 AM (Dz9Qm)

19 18 Articles on the front page of The Register are full of doom.

https://www.theregister.com
Posted by: m

So that's where former COB, Monty, went.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 18, 2023 04:38 AM (sAmhv)

20 Monty was ahead of his time!

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 04:38 AM (Dz9Qm)

21 I ran a compiler for dBase programs called Clipper.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023

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I'd heard of Clipper. I thought it was another dBase database/programming package like FoxPro?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 04:39 AM (omVj0)

22
Doom? Of course. Saudi Arabia just destroyed chances of Biden being reelected. China killed Trump with the virus and mail in ballots, the Saudi's now with inflation Round Two.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 04:39 AM (enJYY)

23
I'd heard of Clipper. I thought it was another dBase database/programming package like FoxPro?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 04:39 AM

It took your dBase program untouched and compiled it into a single EXE. It also added a lot C+ features once you dug into it. If you were a developer and didn't want people to see your source code (or distribute to others for free) it was the only way to go.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 04:43 AM (enJYY)

24 22 Saudi Arabia just destroyed chances of Biden being reelected.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 04:39 AM (enJYY)

I don't know this story. Is it this? (JPost)

Saudi Arabia informed the Biden administration of its decision to halt all talks of normalizing ties with Israel on Sunday, the Arab news outlet Elaph cited an Israeli official in the Prime Minister’s Office as saying.

https://archive.ph/tgOLg

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 04:44 AM (Dz9Qm)

25 If you were a developer and didn't want people to see your source code (or distribute to others for free) it was the only way to go.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023

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Ah -- the "shrouded with tradition and mystery" method! Thumbs up!

If ony I had gotten into computer programming in college, in the early to mid-'70s. Yes, it would have meant dealing with punch cards and the like, but I could have landed a really high-paying job for those times. Could have bought a car and maybe a house, and had some fun hitting the singles bars, and . . .

Ah, who am I kidding. With that kind of dough to spend on liquor, I'd have wound up in rehab.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 04:49 AM (omVj0)

26 "Embattled game engine developer Unity has closed two offices and canceled an all-hands meeting after receiving death threats... From its own staff. (The Register)

The call is coming from inside the house."

It's not like they were walking down the street, minding their own business and this just happened. They decided to essentially change the bargain AFTER the fact for tons of people using their services and expected to bathe in the money waterfall and did not expect people to go nuclear? They deserve this. Let their blasted corpse be a warning to others.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 18, 2023 04:50 AM (zZu0s)

27
I don't know this story. Is it this? (JPost)

Saudi Arabia informed the Biden administration of its decision to halt all talks of normalizing ties with Israel ...

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 04:44 AM

That's not helpful to Biden, but I was talking about the Saudi oil production cuts that have oil prices soaring. The price of diesel and home heating oil are going through the roof which will be effecting everyone.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 04:51 AM (enJYY)

28 27
I don't know this story. Is it this? (JPost)

Saudi Arabia informed the Biden administration of its decision to halt all talks of normalizing ties with Israel ...

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 04:44 AM

That's not helpful to Biden, but I was talking about the Saudi oil production cuts that have oil prices soaring. The price of diesel and home heating oil are going through the roof which will be effecting everyone.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 04:51 AM (enJYY)

Thanks.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 04:54 AM (Dz9Qm)

29 Pixy and Wolfus have woven an interesting web lately...but intertwined w/ that is my recent acquisition of another dog.

I'll just warn you all that are here at this unearthly hour...

Yesterday I brought home a puppy, a Gordon Setter which Jules had long been looking for. He is 8 weeks old and doesn't care what the older dogs think of him. This is crazy fun.

We have decided his name is Flash! My vet uncle John suggested that, he does have a good sense of humor. We could register w/ the AKC but why bother unless we were going to have do stud duty?

If we registered what pretentious name should we use?

Sir Flash of the Wisconsin Gordies and Other Planets Fighting Ming?

No I need better ideas, please.

What name should we use if we do register him?

Bailey, the 13 yo yellow lab is something of a mentor, tho half the time

Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023 04:57 AM (55Qr6)

30 Congratulations, Farmer and the Setter pup!

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 05:01 AM (Dz9Qm)

31 *looks up Gordon Setter*

Nice looking dog.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 18, 2023 05:06 AM (zZu0s)

32
What name should we use if we do register him?

Bob.

Posted by: Bruce at September 18, 2023 05:08 AM (vd8XM)

33 Saudi's cutting oil production and the SPR down to almost nothing. 10bucks a gal gas ain't that far off is it?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:09 AM (SvLds)

34 Ah, who am I kidding. With that kind of dough to spend on liquor, I'd have wound up in rehab.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 04:49

You crack me up Wolfie. My Dad advised me to go in that field at the time, I ignored him sadly, but my future wife did go into it around that time.

Always appreciate your posts and if we ever make it down to NO I'd love to have you show us around.

Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023 05:10 AM (55Qr6)

35 Sundowner will not be on the 2024 Democrat/ Marxist ticket

Posted by: Skip at September 18, 2023 05:10 AM (fwDg9)

36 Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023 04:57 AM (55Qr6)

Congratulations!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 05:14 AM (tgRFY)

37

Euro gas is $10/gal or > this week...

Posted by: Lt. Sharkey, LSP at September 18, 2023 05:18 AM (YxTen)

38 Rain should end this morning and looks like a nice week after it clears today.
Forward Dog 9 hitting the road

Posted by: Skip at September 18, 2023 05:22 AM (fwDg9)

39 My Sustainer- A Christian Devotional from the "Upper Room" by a woman from Pakistan and based on one of the psalms:

https://tinyurl.com/yc66ny7m

Pray for the Christians in Pakistan. As with Christians in India they face a lot of persecution.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 05:22 AM (tgRFY)

40 Euro gas is $10/gal or > this week...
Posted by: Lt. Sharkey, LSP

Not to worry. We will make AMeRica energy independent and ....eh, who the hell are we kidding...

...Your Betters In DC...

Posted by: Bruce at September 18, 2023 05:22 AM (vd8XM)

41 Bob.
Posted by: Bruce at September 18, 2023 05:08

Yes Bruce, you have the same sense humor I do. But I'm thinking I'm stuck w/ Flash.

Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023 05:25 AM (55Qr6)

42 Bribe'em is going to address the UN this week. Putin and Xi take a hard pass basically telling Joke to pound sand.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:29 AM (SvLds)

43 29 My vet uncle John
Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023 04:57 AM (55Qr6)

Very useful relative in these circumstances.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 05:29 AM (Dz9Qm)

44 Congratulations!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 05:14

TY Fen, this should be fun.

What are you running for, I missed something. School board?

Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023 05:30 AM (55Qr6)

45 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 05:32 AM (T4tVD)

46 I used to think the economy made a difference in an election year. Barky getting a second term and PDT not disavowed me of that notion

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:33 AM (SvLds)

47 JT, Good morning.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:35 AM (SvLds)

48 *looks up Gordon Setter*
Nice looking dog.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 18, 2023 05:06

This one is a cutie. Jules really is attached to her Scottish heritage and this pup just fits right in. J at 66 says it's my last time for a pup, let's go for it.

Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023 05:38 AM (55Qr6)

49 Hiya BenHad !

Are you gonna sing ?

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 05:38 AM (T4tVD)

50 JT, not for love or money!

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:39 AM (SvLds)

51 Farmer, congratulations. Your wife is a wise lady.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:42 AM (SvLds)

52 yo wut sup

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 05:42 AM (BRHaw)

53 Corny tech joke:

Why do they call it hyper text?

Too much JAVA.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 05:44 AM (7xIXv)

54 rhennigan, gas prices.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:44 AM (SvLds)

55 'The Fetterman rule': Chuck Schumer quietly ditches the Senate dress code after criticism of junior senator's dress sense

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has quietly gotten rid of the dress code for members of the Senate in what's seen as a way of appealing to the often casually dressed John Fetterman.

Also now have vegetable rule for Festus and Finestein.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 05:44 AM (BRHaw)

56 JT, not for love or money!
Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:39 AM (SvLds)

Not even on a cattle drive ?

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 05:45 AM (T4tVD)

57 JT, not even in the shower.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:46 AM (SvLds)

58 5.72 LA County
3.30 Harris County

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 05:46 AM (BRHaw)

59 PS Gas buddy

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 05:46 AM (BRHaw)

60 Corny non tech joke:

Two radios got married. The reception was amazing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 05:48 AM (7xIXv)

61 If programmers are worried about AI taking over programming, then they should learn to code. Wait. Maybe learn to mine coal?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 18, 2023 05:49 AM (O1z4v)

62 Nice picture from Wisconsin:

https://tinyurl.com/y8m67u7x

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 05:51 AM (7xIXv)

63 21 I ran a compiler for dBase programs called Clipper.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023

That was Clippy. "Hey! It looks like you are trying to compile a dBase program. Would you like to..."

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 18, 2023 05:52 AM (O1z4v)

64
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 18, 2023 05:54 AM (ENBF0)

65 Keep 'em comin' Fen !

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 05:55 AM (T4tVD)

66 Raining pretty good here.

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 06:02 AM (T4tVD)

67 Google has been using AI LLMs in its search engine for so long I cannot find anything pertinent anymore.

Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2023 06:03 AM (zhWvq)

68 ChatGPT is not coming for your programming job - unless you are a very bad programmer.

It will, for some time at least, come for part of your money... as a generation of managers, many of whom are imbeciles, and executives, even more of whom are imbeciles, spend countless millions TRYING to replace human programmers with A"I".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 18, 2023 06:03 AM (GYIa4)

69 Good morning! Gonna be a busy week here. The two oldest grandkids will be on station mid week for 10 days while their parents go to Columbia, and they'll be joined by a second set of grandkids over the weekend while their parents go to Vancouver. I suspect much baking, many naps, and several trips to the ice cream shop will be in the rotation of activities. Gonna be a good week!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 18, 2023 06:04 AM (YRsIm)

70 Just before the Labor Day weekend, Columbia announced that it’s “dissolving” the Teachers College Reading and Writing Project and sending its creator, Lucy Calkins, off on indefinite sabbatical.

Her “balanced literacy” approach gave short shrift to phonics — by teaching children to look at pictures and guess words, for example, instead of sounding them out — and failed to foster the building of knowledge and vocabulary vital to learning the love of reading.

This psuedoscientism is present throughout most education disciplines. New math and common core math neither ever tried tried to teach fundamentals like knowing the square of every number up to 20 or 25. Maybe killing education programs in colleges would help education.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 06:06 AM (BRHaw)

71 Good morning! Gonna be a busy week here. The two oldest grandkids will be on station mid week for 10 days while their parents go to Columbia, and they'll be joined by a second set of grandkids over the weekend while their parents go to Vancouver. I suspect much baking, many naps, and several trips to the ice cream shop will be in the rotation of activities. Gonna be a good week!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 18, 2023 06:04 AM (YRsIm)

Nice ! Have fun !

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 06:07 AM (T4tVD)

72 Crotchety Old Jarhead, grandparenting sounds like fun.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 06:07 AM (SvLds)

73 Ah, who am I kidding. With that kind of dough to spend on liquor, I'd have wound up in rehab.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 04:49
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You crack me up Wolfie. My Dad advised me to go in that field at the time, I ignored him sadly, but my future wife did go into it around that time.

Always appreciate your posts and if we ever make it down to NO I'd love to have you show us around.
Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023

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Congrats on the new family member, Farmer. I named my TICA-registered Siberian kitten "Dagny Sophia," a very simple name compared to some of the grandiose strings of text attached to her forebears.

I'm hoping to retire this year (which with every new disaster and price increase, begins to look ever more chancy) and flee this dump. Everybody should see it once; the architecture, history, and peculiar terms and customs are all fascinating. But those, plus "the food and the music" always touted, do not begin to make up for lousy weather, whirling storms, broken streets, and people getting shot every weekend.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 06:09 AM (omVj0)

74 Running a little late this morning, but I've known worse. Plus it is a fraction less humid and is supposed to maintain that until Wed., so any improvement in the horrific conditions here is worth celebrating.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 06:10 AM (omVj0)

75 Farmer, congratulations. Your wife is a wise lady.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:42

Yes indeed. This pup is a blast. She follows Bailey (13 yo yellow lab) around and loves to sniff her butt. Bailey moves along and sometimes acknowledges her follower.

The other dog, Kahlua (7 yo choc lab) is a bit jealous, but kind of motherly. It's a hoot. Flash will whine in her crate in the middle of of the night...

Kahlua just gives her a grumble and tells her to be quiet. This is a lot of fun that I really didn't ask for at this point.

Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023 06:13 AM (55Qr6)

76 Because the people can't program.

That is, most individuals have neither the interest nor the aptitude - the two very often go together. If you do have the interest, you can probably learn.

Visual Basic for Applications has entered the chat.

Posted by: blaster at September 18, 2023 06:13 AM (dWjpk)

77 The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is refusing to change its statements against ivermectin, even after a court said it acted outside of its authority when it told people to stop using it to treat COVID-19.

This is the ultimate in government bureaucracy. The court said we can't do that, they didn't say we had to undo what we already did.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 18, 2023 06:15 AM (O1z4v)

78 used to think the economy made a difference in an election year. Barky getting a second term and PDT not disavowed me of that notion
Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 05:33 AM (SvLds)

It did. Thanks to propaganda and growing economic illiteracy, not so much anymore.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 18, 2023 06:15 AM (4ydXZ)

79 @AdamKinzinger
·
Follow
As a new Texan, I will do my best to work against these enablers of corruption.

Paxton is GUILTY

Lowered Ave IQ in Texas and Raised it in IL.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 06:16 AM (BRHaw)

80 Just to show how old I am, how about Hypercard, and Hypertalk? Wonderful for actual useage, but before the interwebs, so no data to make it useful.

Of course my TRS80 with 4k memory is yelling at me.

Posted by: Mephitis at September 18, 2023 06:16 AM (K79LB)

81 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 18, 2023 06:22 AM (ju2Fy)

82 They may lose but we will see by how many votes the Marxists get next year how popular they are no matter how bad the economy is by then.

Posted by: Skip at September 18, 2023 06:22 AM (/aIEN)

83 The economy is doing the best it ever has. It is a combination of your unique circumstances and disinformation that make it seem to you like we are in a recession. Now, shut up and don't discuss the economy with anyone, lest you bring them down, too.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 18, 2023 06:22 AM (O1z4v)

84 rhennigan, what office do think Kinzinger will be running for?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 06:24 AM (SvLds)

85 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at September 18, 2023 06:25 AM (NBVIP)

86 Hi, I'm from the big city up north. Let me tell you how to run things down here in TX.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 18, 2023 06:25 AM (O1z4v)

87 Col Kurt at Townhall:

Think of Mitt as Judge Smails from “Caddyshack,” only less amusing and with more estrogen. He represents the worst of the rich guy Republicans, who look down on normal Americans and are absolutely livid when the proles get uppity and pick a guy like Donald Trump over them.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 06:26 AM (BRHaw)

88 Cat Ass Trophy, exactly.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 06:27 AM (SvLds)

89 Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at September 18, 2023 06:25 AM (NBVIP)

Dark and wet.

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 06:27 AM (T4tVD)

90 84 rhennigan, what office do think Kinzinger will be running for?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 06:24 AM (SvLds)

He will prolly try to weasel his way into a state rep seat. I do wonder who he works for. A Never Trump JEB!@# type my guess.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 06:27 AM (BRHaw)

91 mornin yall. I've got a joke. What kind of programming language does Dylan Mulvany use?

Posted by: fd at September 18, 2023 06:29 AM (vFG9F)

92 JT I would have gone with Self Filling

Posted by: Skip at September 18, 2023 06:29 AM (/aIEN)

93 Fortran!

Posted by: fd at September 18, 2023 06:29 AM (vFG9F)

94 67 Google has been using AI LLMs in its search engine for so long I cannot find anything pertinent anymore.
Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2023 06:03 AM (zhWvq)

The flooding of google results with trash is more noticeable all the time.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 06:31 AM (AOrJZ)

95 One man's software is another man's nightmare.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 18, 2023 06:33 AM (NBVIP)

96 67 Google has been using AI LLMs in its search engine for so long I cannot find anything pertinent anymore.
Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2023 06:03 AM (zhWvq)

I wonder if there's any way to undo the damage.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 06:36 AM (AOrJZ)

97 82 They may lose but we will see by how many votes

That's cute.

Posted by: Ballot Harvesters R Us at September 18, 2023 06:37 AM (NBVIP)

98 I'm hoping to retire this year...
Everybody should see it once; the architecture, history, and peculiar terms and customs are all fascinating...
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 18, 2023 06:09

I'm trying to retire, but the hist soc I work for won't hire a replacement and I don't want all my work over the years to go to waste. So I'm still working part time and pissing Jules off by doing that.

Posted by: Farmer at September 18, 2023 06:37 AM (55Qr6)

99 99

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 06:40 AM (AOrJZ)

100 100

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 06:41 AM (AOrJZ)

101 m, you might wanna buy a lottery ticket today.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 06:42 AM (SvLds)

102 Lost, you might want to consult a shaman

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 06:46 AM (SvLds)

103 @SenTedCruz
·
Follow
The Biden administration just paid a $16 billion ransom to the Ayatollah.

So the 6 B is really 16 BILLION

Every fucjing word from Biden is a lie.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 06:49 AM (BRHaw)

104 My joke was so bad the blog choked.

Posted by: fd at September 18, 2023 06:50 AM (vFG9F)

105 Good morning morons

Why does everyone keep trying to create software methodologies that avoid software developers?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 18, 2023 06:51 AM (eR2aG)

106 Why does everyone keep trying to create software methodologies that avoid software developers?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 18, 2023 06:51 AM (eR2aG)

$$$$

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 18, 2023 06:56 AM (GYIa4)

107 Morning horde.

Posted by: Infidel at September 18, 2023 06:56 AM (CEX6j)

108 Pixy, My comments when published from a Windows 11 or Windows 10 machine using a desktop browser (Edge or Brave) appear to get published and even get assigned the next sequential comment number. However, when I refresh the browser window, my comment gets stripped out and if another comment has come along, it gets assigned that same comment number.

This behavior does not happen when I publish a comment from my Android phone using the mobile Edge browser.

Is my Wi-Fi IP address in a banned bin? Is the AOS code haunted? I'm pretty sure whatever is going on is happening on the server side and so far it seems to be highly specific to my situation. It should be noted that this cropped up in the middle of last week. It is weird.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 18, 2023 06:58 AM (AHJdW)

109 103 @SenTedCruz
The Biden administration just paid a $16 billion ransom to the Ayatollah.

So the 6 B is really 16 BILLION
Every fucjing word from Biden is a lie.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 06:49 AM (BRHaw)

https://nitter.net/sentedcruz

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 06:58 AM (AOrJZ)

110 Why does everyone keep trying to create software methodologies that avoid software developers?
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Their jokes are terrible.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 18, 2023 06:59 AM (AHJdW)

111 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 18, 2023 07:01 AM (ScR16)

112 I'm hoping to retire this year (which with every new disaster and price increase, begins to look ever more chancy) and flee this dump. Everybody should see it once; the architecture, history, and peculiar terms and customs are all fascinating. But those, plus "the food and the music" always touted, do not begin to make up for lousy weather, whirling storms, broken streets, and people getting shot every weekend.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,

Let's see if I got this right. Come for the black mold and leave when the locals have stolen everything from you. I'm on the next bus. What's your address?

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 18, 2023 07:02 AM (AHJdW)

113

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 18, 2023 07:04 AM (X4yCj)

114 Is Python popular with "real" programmers, and not just in schools?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 18, 2023 07:04 AM (sz2SP)

115 Here's a tech topic, with video:

Senator Ted Cruz
@SenTedCruz
Sep 14
The FTC wants to regulate tech using a prior approval model.
If government is in the tech industry—it will be run like the DMV.
No one wants to see that.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 07:05 AM (AOrJZ)

116 Proxy
Labview actually is a programming language that was designed for non- programmers. It’s graphic based as opposed to text and embraces “dsta flow” as a overall operational principle.

Posted by: pawn at September 18, 2023 07:06 AM (l/eVx)

117 G'morning, all.

NAS Oceana Air Sow was wonderful yesterday.

Trying to be on the road home by 0915.

That should get us home by 1700 at the latest, even with possible rain on the way.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:06 AM (ZJj0q)

118 Is Python popular with "real" programmers, and not just in schools?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 18, 2023 07:04 AM (sz2SP)

Yes. It's a pretty nice language.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 18, 2023 07:07 AM (GYIa4)

119 Google has been using AI LLMs in its search engine for so long I cannot find anything pertinent anymore.
Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2023 06:03 AM (zhWvq)

The flooding of google results with trash is more noticeable all the time.
Posted by: m

Bing until about 6 months ago gave results that were pretty close to what Google kicked out plus they gave you cash bribes that added up significantly over time. Since then all this AI crap has completely mucked up the results and their Edge browser. Everything is worse now.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 18, 2023 07:08 AM (AHJdW)

120 A propos of nothing in particular:

You know how, when you've eaten something delicious, and you just like to sit there for a moment and savor the aftertaste and memory of what you've just eaten? Dove bar woman is the visual equivalent of the exact opposite of that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 18, 2023 07:08 AM (ScR16)

121 @115

>>it will be run like the DMV. No one wants to see that.

Not to undermine Ted Cruz's overall point, but the NYC DMV used to be a horror show, but was revolutionized under Giuliani to the point that where it went from literally being one of the most miserable experiences to where it was tolerable, not unpleasant nuisance, thanks in large part to the implementation of technology.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 07:08 AM (XV/Pl)

122 Looks like the Marines lost an F-35 over North Charleston S.C.

As in literally 'lost'.

Polot was ejected, and they are looking in the vicinity of two lakes for the aircraft.

But, they do not know where it is.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:08 AM (ZJj0q)

123 "Polot was ejected, and they are looking in the vicinity of two lakes for the aircraft.

But, they do not know where it is.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice"

Check JT's birdbath.

Posted by: fd at September 18, 2023 07:10 AM (vFG9F)

124 640K ought to be enough for anybody.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 18, 2023 07:10 AM (UkqCM)

125 There are literally tons of shitty Labview programs out there because of this. You don’t need to know anything about programming to actually write a program that “works”.

Posted by: pawn at September 18, 2023 07:10 AM (l/eVx)

126 Looks like the Marines lost an F-35 over North Charleston S.C.

As in literally 'lost'.
-------------
It's the Ghost of Fort Sumter!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 18, 2023 07:11 AM (ScR16)

127
*shuffles in with bleary eyes*

Good morning, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:11 AM (MoZTd)

128 Just how stupid is Gen. Milley?

https://tinyurl.com/bd2m5hee

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:14 AM (ZJj0q)

129
Looks like the Marines lost an F-35 over North Charleston S.C....As in literally 'lost'...Polot was ejected, and they are looking in the vicinity of two lakes for the aircraft.

But, they do not know where it is.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:08 AM

the cynic in me wagers 17.3 quatloos that the "lost" F-35 is already on it's way to the Ukraine

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 18, 2023 07:15 AM (ENBF0)

130 “The FTC should not have to waste valuable time and resources investigating clearly anticompetitive deals that should have died in the boardroom,” said Holly Vedova, Director of the Bureau of Competition. “Restoring the long-standing prior approval policy forces acquisitive firms to think twice before going on a buying binge because the FTC can simply say no.”

32 Years at the FTC.

Never created, only destroyed.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:15 AM (BRHaw)

131 There are literally tons of shitty Labview programs out there because of this. You don’t need to know anything about programming to actually write a program that “works”.
Posted by: pawn at September 18, 2023 07:10 AM (l/eVx)

I wonder if Emerson will kill off Labview when they complete their buyout of NI.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 18, 2023 07:15 AM (GYIa4)

132 ChatGPT is always polite, cheerful, optimistic, often wildly wrong, and prone to lying,
It's never been programmer material; it's clearly management material.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 18, 2023 07:15 AM (sz2SP)

133 I have no interest in programming. All I really want is a database for inventory management, a word processor for writing, and some templates for making party flyers and newsletters. A browser for AoSHQ etc. is good, too.

The only time I've wanted to program was after Scrivener destroyed my draft - seriously, it announced that the software was shutting down, wouldn't let me save, and later wouldn't open my draft. I wanted to write a virus that would take down Litereatureandlatte's (sic) website, transfer its owners' bank accounts to mine own, and send out ransom notes to everyone involved.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 18, 2023 07:15 AM (fxCK2)

134 F-35 engines are suspected of having the same problem as the other engines from Prat and Whitney that is grounding all the Airbus over the next three years. Raytheon stock is in the shitter as a result.

Posted by: pawn at September 18, 2023 07:16 AM (UfCS9)

135 Good morning all! Farmer make sure and send pics to the pet thread!

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at September 18, 2023 07:16 AM (iF0sF)

136 128 Just how stupid is Gen. Milley?

https://tinyurl.com/bd2m5hee

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:14 AM (ZJj0q)

How fucking stupid does he think we are???

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:17 AM (BRHaw)

137 "the cynic in me wagers 17.3 quatloos that the "lost" F-35 is already on it's way to the Ukraine
"

I won't take that bet.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:18 AM (ZJj0q)

138 *shuffles in with bleary eyes*

Good morning, Hordians.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:11 AM (MoZTd)
===
Too much celebrating comment of the week?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 18, 2023 07:19 AM (eR2aG)

139 Count your blessings- some thoughts about a hymn written by a bi-vocational minister from NJ:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfs2tk8

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 07:19 AM (JXmWc)

140 "How fucking stupid does he think we are???"

Show me a military command that has NOT had a Pride Month cake cutting ceremony, with the Commanding Officer cutting the cake with his/her/i Sword, and I'll eat my hat.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:20 AM (ZJj0q)

141 VIA, safe travels

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 18, 2023 07:22 AM (eR2aG)

142 with the Commanding Officer cutting the cake with his/her/i Sword,

Phrasing?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 18, 2023 07:22 AM (O1z4v)

143 Wrath Month is gonna be LIT!!!

Posted by: That guy who thinks Wrath Month is gonna be LIT at September 18, 2023 07:22 AM (ScR16)

144 Have they tried looking for a smoking hole in the ground?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 18, 2023 07:24 AM (O1z4v)

145 143 Wrath Month is gonna be LIT!!!
Posted by: That guy who thinks Wrath Month is gonna be LIT at September 18, 2023 07:22 AM (ScR16)

Gluttony month ends at Marte Gras

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:24 AM (BRHaw)

146
Too much celebrating comment of the week?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 18, 2023 07:19 AM (eR2aG)

No. Woken by the puppies at 1:30. Took care of them and went back to bed at 2:00. Slept until 5:00 when I was awakened by Lila kicking me in order to snuggle closer to Mommy. Four females in this house and one of me. Not fair.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:24 AM (MoZTd)

147 It's rather like painting: Anyone can pick up a brush and do a quick doodle, but Rembrandts are far and few between.

--

Ah, but now you're getting to the soft, gooey center of the candy.

It's who you know. It's always who you know. It's who has some perception of "knowledge" and influence and usually money and all they have to say is "This man is talented."

See also: Hunter Biden, D.C. spirit cooking art above dinner tables, etc.

I don't look forward to Our Betters' AI creations, because they hate beauty, goodness, and humanity.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 18, 2023 07:24 AM (SfD1B)

148 Pixy, your essay about programming is so spot on. Maybe one day. AI will be able to do these extremely complex and nuanced tasks as well as humans, but I'm highly skeptical. The human mind, unlike AI, has an ability to associate random ideas and make leaps to conclusions that were never obvious. AI as near as I can tell completely lacks this experienced based intuitive thinking and has to use an exhaustive testing of possibilities to come up with certain solutions. In something like chess AI, if given a proper model, through shear, computing speed has a real advantage which can be extended to processing possible chemical compounds to come up with drug candidates. On the other hand, only the human mind can see the world in such a way that we get Rembrandts, Beethovens, Wright Brothers, or Turings. With this in mind I propose the McDonald's drive-thru test. AI will have arrived when it stops pissing off the locals who then burn down their local McDonald's because their fry order got screwed up.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 18, 2023 07:24 AM (AHJdW)

149 144 Have they tried looking for a smoking hole in the ground?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 18, 2023 07:24 AM (O1z4v)

/punchline
we will probably make it to the scene of the crash

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:25 AM (BRHaw)

150 It's who you know. It's always who you know. It's who has some perception of "knowledge" and influence and usually money and all they have to say is "This man is talented."
-------------
Clement Greenberg has a lot to answer for.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 18, 2023 07:25 AM (ScR16)

151 Looks like the Marines lost an F-35 over North Charleston S.C.

As in literally 'lost'.

Polot was ejected, and they are looking in the vicinity of two lakes for the aircraft.

But, they do not know where it is.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

--

Any word yet on it being a "he," or are they still using they since they pilot ejected and they pilot is okay?

Because my money is on GRRLLLL PORRRRWWRRR

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 18, 2023 07:26 AM (SfD1B)

152 Also I sort of love and sort of hate that we as a nation have progressed to the point where we don't think anything about posting "Hey guys, we lost a jet, if you see it please call us" on our military social media accounts.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 18, 2023 07:27 AM (SfD1B)

153 "Polot was ejected, and they are looking in the vicinity of two lakes for the aircraft.

But, they do not know where it is.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice"

Check JT's birdbath.
Posted by: fd at September 18, 2023 07:10 AM (vFG9F)

I was just out there...NOPE ! Ain't there !

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 07:28 AM (T4tVD)

154 1-800-JETS 4 KIDS

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 18, 2023 07:29 AM (ScR16)

155 "his/her/i Sword,

Phrasing?"
Auto-cucumber changed 'Zi ' to I.

Also, pilot was female.

Not important, but simply a fact.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:29 AM (ZJj0q)

156
Looks like the Marines lost an F-35 over North Charleston S.C.

It's always in the last place you look.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:30 AM (MoZTd)

157 Any word yet on it being a "he," or are they still using they since they pilot ejected and they pilot is okay?

Because my money is on GRRLLLL PORRRRWWRRR
Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 18, 2023 07:26 AM (SfD1B)
----
She needed to stop and ask for directions.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 18, 2023 07:31 AM (YIVH2)

158 It's always in the last place you look.

It's always in the last place you left it. ;-)

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 18, 2023 07:31 AM (YRsIm)

159 "It's always in the last place you look."

I looked behind my fridge. Nope. Not there.

Posted by: Outside of Life at September 18, 2023 07:32 AM (89Sog)

160 Interesting, one article says 'His'

The other offers the pilot's name as Melanie, or something like that.

Either way, I will look in the back yard once we get home.

It might be in our birdbath.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:32 AM (ZJj0q)

161 102 Lost, you might want to consult a shaman
Posted by: Ben Had

What? You saw my original test published from my desktop browser? That comment number would have been 102 which was assigned to your comment.. Is my test comment still there?

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 18, 2023 07:33 AM (AHJdW)

162 "It's always in the last place you look."

I looked behind my fridge. Nope. Not there.
Posted by: Outside of Life at September 18, 2023 07:32 AM (89Sog)
-------
The cats may have batted it under the sofa.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 18, 2023 07:33 AM (ScR16)

163 College football players act of generosity:

https://tinyurl.com/2p8vwcrd

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 07:34 AM (JXmWc)

164 The cats may have batted it under the sofa.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 18, 2023 07:33 AM (ScR16)
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I'm always amazed at how much they can cram under there...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 18, 2023 07:34 AM (YIVH2)

165 Also, pilot was female.

Not important, but simply a fact.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

---

It's only important because we know for a fact that standards are lower for females. It's probably not related, though. So long as people feel good about themselves.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 18, 2023 07:34 AM (SfD1B)

166 Los, I saw it and then it was gone. The shaman was in reference to your 'it might be haumted"

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 07:35 AM (SvLds)

167 It's always in the last place you look.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:30 AM (MoZTd)

Forsooth !

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 07:35 AM (T4tVD)

168 Looks like the Marines lost an F-35 over North Charleston S.C.

It's always in the last place you look.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:30 AM (MoZTd)

So, they last had it in the skies over south carolina? Have they tried looking there? Retrace your steps.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 18, 2023 07:36 AM (zZu0s)

169 F-35's don't come with a tracking device?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 07:37 AM (SvLds)

170 I forget the first place I learned the word "defenestration." It was either the Defenestration of Prague, or the A. C. Clarke short story, "The Defenestration of Ermintrude Inch."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 18, 2023 07:37 AM (ScR16)

171 169 F-35's don't come with a tracking device?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 07:37 AM (SvLds)

They should use those apple air pod(or pad) thingees.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 18, 2023 07:38 AM (zZu0s)

172

The F35 is up on blocks, stripped, in Fayettuckey...

Posted by: Pendulating Richard at September 18, 2023 07:38 AM (funtj)

173 It's in one of those lakes.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 07:39 AM (AOrJZ)

174 3, 2, 1...CNN Breaking News: F-35 stolen by aliens?

Betteridge's Law at work.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 18, 2023 07:39 AM (AHJdW)

175 Earlier this year, Rolling Stone published an article titled, “Why Cancel Culture Is Good for Democracy”.

Then the founder got conceled.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:39 AM (BRHaw)

176 Byeeee.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 18, 2023 07:40 AM (ScR16)

177
F-35's don't come with a tracking device?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 07:37 AM (SvLds)

No OneStar?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:40 AM (MoZTd)

178 Show me a military command that has NOT had a Pride Month cake cutting ceremony, with the Commanding Officer cutting the cake with his/her/i Sword, and I'll eat my hat.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:20 AM (ZJj0q)

Is there a way out of this Marxist morass? It seems unlikely short of survival-testing catastrophes.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 18, 2023 07:40 AM (QDOq9)

179 Earlier this year, Rolling Stone published an article titled, “Why Cancel Culture Is Good for Democracy”.

So I was thinking. Is not the next phase of cancel culture camps or prisons?

Just straightway find the person guilty, of something, and send them off.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:41 AM (BRHaw)

180 Earlier this year, Rolling Stone published an article titled, “Why Cancel Culture Is Good for Democracy”.
Then the founder got conceled.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:39 AM (BRHaw)

Hahahaha....good.

More Please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 18, 2023 07:41 AM (UkqCM)

181 "F-35's don't come with a tracking device?"

What's 250 million dollars when you have hundreds of billions to throw around?

Posted by: Outside of Life at September 18, 2023 07:42 AM (89Sog)

182 Almost fergot....

Have a good one Skip and stay safe !

And dry !

Posted by: JT at September 18, 2023 07:42 AM (T4tVD)

183 So the F-35 was flying in company with a second F-35.

Report does not say 'Pilot ejected' but the odd phrase 'pilot was ejected'.

This is gonna get dumber yet, I suspect.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:43 AM (ZJj0q)

184 These days defenestration—from the Latin fenestra, meaning "window"—is often used to describe the forceful removal of someone from public office or from some other advantageous position.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:45 AM (BRHaw)

185 snippets from google:

The pilot was treated at a local hospital after ejection at about 2 pm on September 17 local time, but the jet worth US$90 million was not found

According to officials, a pilot was found on South Kenwood Drive in North Charleston after safely ejecting from the passing plane.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 07:45 AM (AOrJZ)

186 Monday's Word Power Lesson

Fenestration: The arrangement windows and doors on the elevations of a building.

Defenistration: the action of throwing someone out a window.

They should not be confused with frock and defrock.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 18, 2023 07:45 AM (AHJdW)

187 She knows what she did.

Posted by: All the other female pilots at September 18, 2023 07:45 AM (NBVIP)

188 "This is gonna get dumber yet, I suspect."

She was jetjacked!!!

Posted by: Outside of Life at September 18, 2023 07:45 AM (89Sog)

189 So I was thinking. Is not the next phase of cancel culture camps or prisons?

Just straightway find the person guilty, of something, and send them off.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:41 AM (BRHaw)

Of course it does. We are in the 'struggle session' portion of the tyranny program. I have mentioned before that they have tried to do a heavy social pressure version of tyranny thus far- until we come to the J6 guys. They are the warning bell.

Explicit political prisoners being held for years without trial.

We are already at camps.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 18, 2023 07:45 AM (zZu0s)

190 183 So the F-35 was flying in company with a second F-35.

Report does not say 'Pilot ejected' but the odd phrase 'pilot was ejected'.

This is gonna get dumber yet, I suspect.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:43 AM (ZJj0q)

You can't eject accidently, right? Right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 18, 2023 07:46 AM (zZu0s)

191 "but the jet worth US$90 million was not found "

Well, It's used now.

I suspect that it has depreciated in value.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:47 AM (ZJj0q)

192
Well, It's used now.

I suspect that it has depreciated in value.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:47 AM (ZJj0q)

Think of the fun you could have if you found it and restored it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:48 AM (MoZTd)

193 I hadn't known about the Unity/IronSource merger a year ago. Man, this CEO that used to be at EA just keeps dropping turds in the Unity punchbowl.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 18, 2023 07:49 AM (qPw5n)

194 @129

>>the cynic in me wagers 17.3 quatloos that the "lost" F-35 is already on it's way to the Ukraine

It's implausible that they lost any aircraft so the fact they would even dare to try to say something as preposterous as that would lend credence to your assertion.

Everything is an Op.
Everything is bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 07:49 AM (XV/Pl)

195
JJ

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 18, 2023 07:49 AM (BRHaw)

196 Well at least it's not being reverse engineered in Iran

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 07:49 AM (SvLds)

197 NOOD - Morning Report's up folks.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 18, 2023 07:50 AM (qPw5n)

198 Show me a military command that has NOT had a Pride Month cake cutting ceremony, with the Commanding Officer cutting the cake with his/her/i Sword, and I'll eat my hat.
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Is there a way out of this Marxist morass? It seems unlikely short of survival-testing catastrophes.
Posted by: Ordinary American

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Last I heard Tuberville was the only person standing up and saying "No, this mess has got to stop" by trying to prevent some sort of mass promotion of 400 or so officers. Mass promotion, not individual. And his critics were saying he was helping communists by insisting that individuals be judged by their merits. No, really.

I don't know if he's still holding the line. Hopefully he is. Shame he seems to be the only one.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 18, 2023 07:50 AM (SfD1B)

199 183 So the F-35 was flying in company with a second F-35.

Report does not say 'Pilot ejected' but the odd phrase 'pilot was ejected'.

This is gonna get dumber yet, I suspect.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 18, 2023 07:43 AM (ZJj0q)

An official report?
The news agencies are using all sorts of inconsistent language to describe the incident.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 07:50 AM (AOrJZ)

200
*Think of the fun you could have if you found it and restored it.*

Epic Craigslist ad.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 18, 2023 07:50 AM (NBVIP)

201 187 She knows what she did.
Posted by: All the other female pilots at September 18, 2023 07:45 AM (NBVIP)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 07:51 AM (AOrJZ)

202 192 Think of the fun you could have if you found it and restored it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:48 AM (MoZTd)

Collect them all!

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 07:53 AM (AOrJZ)

203 202 192 Think of the fun you could have if you found it and restored it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 07:48 AM (MoZTd)

Collect them all!
Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 07:53 AM (AOrJZ)

We found this SR-71 in a barn where it has been sitting for 30 years! Will it start?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 18, 2023 07:56 AM (zZu0s)

204 203 We found this SR-71 in a barn where it has been sitting for 30 years! Will it start?!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 18, 2023 07:56 AM (zZu0s)

We can ask Alberta Oil Peon, see what he thinks.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 07:58 AM (AOrJZ)

205 My GSD's registered name was Bjarne Catslapper. Maybe Flash Bang? What you came up with was good too.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 18, 2023 08:00 AM (Ds/Wi)

206 "We can confirm a mishap involving an F-35B Lightning II jet from Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron (VMFAT) 501 with the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing," a United States Marine Corps spokesperson told Insider. "The pilot safely ejected from the aircraft. We are currently still gathering more information and assessing the situation. The mishap will be under investigation."

(Business Insider)

https://archive.ph/3QtzF

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 08:06 AM (AOrJZ)

207 Farmer: D-day hat-tip with slight embellishment: Flash Thunderpaws

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 18, 2023 08:17 AM (qPw5n)

208 re: formatting text: Seems to me that, if you're spending your time trying to optimize the efficiency of print statements, you're looking for improved code performance in all the wrong places.

Posted by: Socratease at September 18, 2023 08:24 AM (d2/cS)

209 "128 Just how stupid is Gen. Milley?"

How stupid do you need me to be?

Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2023 09:11 AM (zhWvq)

210 Yes, FJB.

Posted by: Marooned at September 18, 2023 09:35 AM (kt8QE)

211 Pixy,
First I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your posts. Always something interesting and with a humorous take on it. As an engineer and a programmer, I love your perspective.

Second, I think the best we've been able to get to as far as "non-programmers doing programming" is Excel formulas. That really is programming, though of a different kind. But also Excel formulas are a mess. And yet, the world runs on them.

Posted by: OnPoint at September 18, 2023 10:01 AM (cz2EI)

212 AI may suck at software *programming*, but I think it might help with the tedious and repetitive parts of software *testing*. Doing the same tests against every known brand and version of OS and/or browser (including the most common plugins and drivers), passing input faster than humans are capable to test for race conditions, and simulating heavy loads is necessary, deadly boring, and easily automated. And some easy automation for basic QA might make open source software suck less.

(Actual QA professionals consider using your users as testers to be fucking your customers. Unless you are working on a porn website, that's probably not a winning practice. And no, an unpaid programmer driven entirely by Mountain Dew, ramen, and a vague sense of curiosity crawling through the code on GitHub isn't going to find the same problems. Programmers are just as good at spotting their own errors as writers are at spotting grammar and continuity mistakes. It's also why the UI on FOSS systems is so horrible: the coders don't care--they know what they meant it to do--and why the hell aren't you using the command line?)

Posted by: bittergeek at September 18, 2023 01:34 PM (rKFD/)

213 Once upon a time, I used to enjoy coding in C - it was like writing a letter. I found C++ to be needlessly complex. I used to have an article by the guy who “created” C++ stating that he did so because C coding had become so universally taught that no one could make a living from it any more. So he threw in a bunch of complications to make it harder.

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