Jonathan Turley: Far From Being Launched "Without Evidence," the Evidence That Biden Committed the Impeachment-Level Crime of Bribery Is Strong and Demands an Inquiry

With the commencement of an impeachment inquiry this week, the House of Representatives is moving the Biden corruption scandal into the highest level of constitutional inquiry. After stonewalling by the Bidens and federal agencies investigating various allegations, the move for a House inquiry was expected if not inevitable.
An impeachment inquiry does not mean that an impeachment itself is inevitable. But it dramatically increases the chances of finally forcing answers to troubling questions of influence-peddling and corruption.

That's a huge factor -- with the Biden Administration obstructing Congress' normal means of demanding information, Congress is left with no choice but to escalate to an impeachment inquiry, for which judges will have to give Congress great deference when ruling on whether Biden's henchmen may continue hiding and destroying evidence.

Additionally, Congress is expanding the inquiry to also look into the obstruction of justice and cover-up being executed by Biden's co-conspirators.

As expected, many House Democrats -- who impeached Donald Trump after only one hearing in the House Judiciary Committee, based on his phone call to Ukraine's president -- oppose any such inquiry into President Biden. House Republicans could have chosen to forego any hearings and use what I called a "snap impeachment," as then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) did with the second Trump impeachment in January 2021.
Instead, they have methodically investigated the corruption scandal for months and only now are moving to a heightened inquiry. The House has established a labyrinth of dozens of shell companies and accounts allegedly used to transfer millions of dollars to Biden family members. There is now undeniable evidence to support influence-peddling by Hunter Biden and some of his associates -- with Joe Biden, to quote Hunter's business partner Devon Archer, being "the brand" they were selling.
The suggestion that this evidence does not meet the standard for an inquiry into impeachable offenses is an example of willful blindness. It also is starkly different from the standard applied by congressional Democrats during the Trump and Nixon impeachment efforts.
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Consider just five established facts:
First, there appears to be evidence that Joe Biden lied to the public for years in denying knowledge of his son's business dealings. Hunter Biden's ex-business associate, Tony Bobulinski, has said repeatedly that he discussed some dealings directly with Joe Biden. Devon Archer, Hunter's close friend and partner, described the president's denials of knowledge as "categorically false."
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Second, we know that more than $20 million was paid to the Bidens by foreign sources, including figures in China, Ukraine, Russia and Romania. There is no apparent reason for the multilayers of accounts and companies other than to hide these transfers.
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Third, specific demands were made on Hunter, including dealing with the threat of a Ukrainian prosecutor to the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, where Hunter was given a lucrative board position...
Fourth, Hunter repeatedly stated in emails that he paid his father as much as half of what he earned....

Fifth concerns Hunter Biden's efforts to cover up the cash payments and the DOJ's apparent corrupt protection of him.

Read the column for more details.

The latest Quinippiac poll finds a plurality of Americans think that Biden is guilty of running a foreign bribery shakedown operation, as well as believing that Biden is failing in both senses of "executive function."

In a hypothetical 2024 general election matchup between President Biden and former President Trump, 47 percent of registered voters support Biden, while 46 percent support Trump, essentially a dead heat and unchanged from Quinnipiac University's August poll when Biden received 47 percent support and Trump received 46 percent support among registered voters.
When asked who would do a better job responding to a national crisis, 51 percent of registered voters said Trump, while 44 percent said Biden.
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Voters 68 - 28 percent think that Joe Biden is too old to effectively serve another 4-year term as president, compared to Quinnipiac University's May 24, 2023 poll when voters 65 - 32 percent said that he was too old.
Voters 63 - 34 percent think that Donald Trump is not too old to effectively serve another 4-year term as president, compared to May when voters 59 - 36 percent said that Trump was not too old.

Voters give President Biden a negative 39 - 55 percent job approval rating, unchanged from a negative 39 - 55 percent job approval rating in Quinnipiac University's August poll.
Voters were asked about Biden's handling of...
the response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine: 43 percent approve, while 51 percent disapprove;
prescription drug pricing: 41 percent approve, while 39 percent disapprove;
climate change: 36 percent approve, while 53 percent disapprove;
the economy: 35 percent approve, while 60 percent disapprove.

But otherwise, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

Nearly 7 out of 10 voters (69 percent) say they are following news about the Justice Department's investigations into President Biden's son Hunter Biden either very closely (28 percent) or somewhat closely (41 percent), while 30 percent say they are following it not too closely.
About half of voters (49 percent) say the Justice Department's treatment of Hunter Biden has been not tough enough, while 31 percent say it has been fair, and 6 percent say it has been too tough.
A majority of voters (58 percent) say they are following an investigation by House Republicans into Hunter Biden's business dealings with Ukraine and China when his father was vice president either very closely (25 percent) or somewhat closely (33 percent), while 41 percent say they are following it not too closely.

Forty-four percent of voters believe Hunter Biden did something illegal in his business dealings with Ukraine and China when his father was vice president, while 34 percent believe he did something unethical but nothing illegal, 6 percent believe he did not do anything wrong, and 16 percent did not offer an opinion.
Half of voters (50 percent) think Joe Biden was involved in Hunter Biden's business dealings with Ukraine and China while Joe Biden was vice president, while 40 percent think Joe Biden was not involved.
Thirty-five percent of voters believe Joe Biden was involved and did something illegal in Hunter Biden's business dealings with Ukraine and China while Joe Biden was vice president, while 13 percent believe he was involved and did something unethical but nothing illegal, 1 percent believe he was involved but he did not do anything wrong, 11 percent did not offer an opinion, and 40 percent of voters believe Joe Biden was not involved.

CNN's "Fact" check of the allegations against Biden is ridiculous. Never before have "fact" checkers strained so mightily to call true, verified facts "unproven."

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1 Yo.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 15, 2023 03:03 PM (DTX3h)

2 I still don't see any evidence.

- The Left

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:04 PM (sX1BW)

3 Most American families have scores of shell companies that just move money between them.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 15, 2023 03:05 PM (Ibaon)

4 I won't come to the conclusion that the seriousness of the charges merit an investigation until I hear from David French.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:06 PM (LvTSG)

5 That's a huge factor -- with the Biden Administration obstructing Congress' normal means of demanding information, Congress is left with no choice but to escalate to an impeachment inquiry, for which judges will have to give Congress great deference when ruling on whether Biden's henchmen may continue hiding and destroying evidence.
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On paper, anyway.

But yes. With no option but the nuclear option, they are left with the nukes.

Well, the pseudo-nukes. Taking the position of, "because of your obstruction, your budgets are now zero. Talk to us next year if you want to change your tune" is a bridge too far.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:07 PM (t0OGg)

6 AP reported that McCarthy's impeachment inquiry was launched "without evidence.” Here’s McCarthy forcing an AP reporter to admit that there was lots of evidence to support an impeachment inquiry.

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"I totally forgive you for the impending collapse in the face of one sternly worded email from Mitch on the budget fight, Kevin! That takedown was fire!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:07 PM (LvTSG)

7 Has the Deep State ordered the media to drive Biden out of office?

Yes. Yes the did.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:07 PM (I/Qkd)

8 "the highest level of constitutional inquiry."

Well, they better not fuck it up then.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at September 15, 2023 03:07 PM (MvF+J)

9 Girthy post. Hopefully someone will read it

Posted by: Kratwurst at September 15, 2023 03:08 PM (nIRE6)

10 Everyone knows Biden has been corrupt and taken bribes before the 2020 election. I'll believe he'll be forced out on the day he actually is out. Honestly, I keep wondering if the Left is waiting him out b/c he's not healthy, and a "saint" (which you know would be how the state funeral would be handled) is better than a disgraced ex-prez...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 15, 2023 03:08 PM (exHjb)

11 "I totally forgive you for the impending collapse in the face of one sternly worded email from Mitch on the budget fight, Kevin! That takedown was fire!"

Ya know, it wouldn't kill you to acknowledge that he occasionally does something good.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:08 PM (I/Qkd)

12 But sure, AP -- "without evidence." "Wipe your chins off," Ed Morrissey says.

I thought AP and Coxswain Eddy were best buds...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2023 03:08 PM (IG4Id)

13 Make no mistake: Ignatius’ column is more than a suggestion- it’s a marching order. When American intelligence wants to put out a hit, they feed it to David Ignatius and today, Ignatius pulled the pin on Joe Biden’s 2024 run. He’s turning Washington’s whispers into a rallying…

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I remember when the bulk of the establishment was against Biden in the 2020 primary, including celebrating Kamala when she called him a racist to his face during the debates.

Biden knew he just had to outlast the narrative and he'd get their support for whatever he did in the general, and it worked.

I really don't see his thinking having changed here. Biden has to go by choice because no Senate is going to convict him in an impeachment trial. This is a desperation move, begging him to step down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:09 PM (LvTSG)

14 Consider just five established facts:
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Consider just one established fact:
The government is corrupt and so is everyone in it, so there are no objective standards, rules, laws or norms in existence and justice, fairness, honesty and integrity do not number among the government's ambitions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:09 PM (t0OGg)

15 When all you believe in is marxist power games, "there's no evidence of wrongdoing" is semantically equivalent to "I won't let you get your way."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 15, 2023 03:09 PM (fKIdX)

16 One of alexthechick's go-to lines these days is "what do they want? A check to Joe Biden with "bribe" in the re: LINE?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 15, 2023 03:09 PM (CnLzB)

17 I don't want him removed... I want him dragged thru the mud for years like Trump..... The thought of that cackling imbecile Kamala as President is frightening

Posted by: It's me donna at September 15, 2023 03:09 PM (bs+z0)

18 Make no mistake: Ignatius’ column is more than a suggestion- it’s a marching order. When American intelligence wants to put out a hit, they feed it to David Ignatius and today, Ignatius pulled the pin on Joe Biden’s 2024 run. He’s turning Washington’s whispers into a rallying cry. The American intelligence community has to tie up their loose ends.

Even the media is falling in line: admitting the Democratic party is a dishonest monolith. A mob that can’t function when it’s fractured. The Biden-Kamala ticket is being cancelled in its entirety and the intelligence community is making a calculation.

That says it all very nicely.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:09 PM (I/Qkd)

19 11 "I totally forgive you for the impending collapse in the face of one sternly worded email from Mitch on the budget fight, Kevin! That takedown was fire!"

Ya know, it wouldn't kill you to acknowledge that he occasionally does something good.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:08 PM (I/Qkd)

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I'm sorry, but him doing absolutely nothing in the debt ceiling fight really colored my view of him.

The debt ceiling fight could have changed something, and he did nothing.

Calling out an AP reporter will change nothing, and he does it.

Maybe you should be a bit more cynical about our politicians.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (LvTSG)

20 But otherwise, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?
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Well enough to pull the lever for good 'ole Lunchbucket Joe!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (t0OGg)

21 Second, we know that more than $20 million was paid to the Bidens by foreign sources, including figures in China, Ukraine, Russia and Romania. There is no apparent reason for the multilayers of accounts and companies other than to hide these transfers.

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I love how this is just thrown in here and is presented like a similar charge to various lies. This seems like kind of a big deal.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (sX1BW)

22 At what point does official DC start asking who's actually in charge? Everyone knows it's not Alzheimer Joe. So who is it?

Is that not relevant to all of this?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (dGCAG)

23 One of alexthechick's go-to lines these days is "what do they want? A check to Joe Biden with "bribe" in the re: LINE?

They would then counter that it depends on what the meaning of "bribe" is.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (I/Qkd)

24 CNN's "Fact" check of the allegations against Biden is ridiculous. Never before have "fact" checkers strained so mightily to call true, verified facts "unproven."
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They're just doing their jobs. It would be amusing if it was in some other country. Like the USSR, for example.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (t0OGg)

25 "In a hypothetical 2024 general election matchup between President Biden and former President Trump, 47 percent of registered voters support Biden, while 46 percent support Trump, essentially a dead heat "

Good Lord. This shouldn't even be close.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (gChab)

26 What is sad is that the Babylon Bee is making a joke out of a 50 year old fact. In the 1970s the DNC sent out a fax every morning to all of the television, radio, and newspapers with the agenda for the day, the stories to cover, the stories to avoid, and the phrases to be used to color the news. It was called the Talking Points Memo. It was replaced in the 1980s when email began to replace fax machines.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 15, 2023 03:11 PM (lTGtQ)

27 22 At what point does official DC start asking who's actually in charge? Everyone knows it's not Alzheimer Joe. So who is it?

Is that not relevant to all of this?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (dGCAG)

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You think someone like Schumer doesn't know who's actually running the WH? When Schumer calls up the WH, does he wait on the line as Biden gets his instructions? Or does he go straight to Valerie Jarrett?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:11 PM (LvTSG)

28 Maybe you should be a bit more cynical about our politicians.

Oh, I'm plenty cynical, but again, I can acknowledge when they occasionally do what we want.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:11 PM (I/Qkd)

29 Facts First: McCarthy's claim omits key context about what was -- and wasn't -- reportedly discussed in the calls and dinners. A Hunter Biden associate testified that even though Joe Biden was on these calls and at these dinners, he didn't discuss business. And Republicans have not presented any evidence that Joe Biden himself benefited financially from his appearances at the dinners or on the calls.
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Just the shell corporations that are part of a vast web of accounts for his crime family benefited.

Totally different.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:12 PM (t0OGg)

30 Time to wash my engine.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 15, 2023 03:12 PM (Eeb9P)

31 25 "In a hypothetical 2024 general election matchup between President Biden and former President Trump, 47 percent of registered voters support Biden, while 46 percent support Trump, essentially a dead heat "

Good Lord. This shouldn't even be close.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (gChab)

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What incentive does the polling firm have to be accurate? Not, is this poll accurate, but what incentive does the polling firm have to be accurate right now?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:12 PM (LvTSG)

32 25 "In a hypothetical 2024 general election matchup between President Biden and former President Trump, 47 percent of registered voters support Biden, while 46 percent support Trump, essentially a dead heat "

Good Lord. This shouldn't even be close.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (gChab)

Trump is and has been as toxic as Biden...just with different folks. Put "anyone else" on that same poll, and it might get 80%+...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 15, 2023 03:12 PM (exHjb)

33 CNN is also attempting to claim that because the investigators don't have all the evidence at the beginning of an inquiry, the inquiry must be cancelled for lack of evidence. Thus insuring -- happenstantially I'm sure -- that the evidence remains buried.
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It's a neat closed loop that you get to use if you happen to be the boss of a vast crime syndicate masquerading as a legitimate government.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:12 PM (t0OGg)

34 One of alexthechick's go-to lines these days is "what do they want? A check to Joe Biden with "bribe" in the re: LINE?

They would then counter that it depends on what the meaning of "bribe" is.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (I/Qkd)

It's obviously Joe's trademark sense of humor. Why can't you stuck up rubes take a joke?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 15, 2023 03:13 PM (fKIdX)

35 28 Oh, I'm plenty cynical, but again, I can acknowledge when they occasionally do what we want.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:11 PM (I/Qkd)

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It's literal theater.

It's a show.

I don't applaud for political theater anymore. It's an empty show designed to bilk small dollar donors of money and no more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:13 PM (LvTSG)

36 CNN: Its true Obama was in a room with one other man in which gay sex was happening. But there is no public evidence that Obama himself was receiving the gay sex.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:13 PM (sX1BW)

37 I love how this is just thrown in here and is presented like a similar charge to various lies. This seems like kind of a big deal.

It's the big one. In addition, as McCarthy said, how does Biden afford properties that can't be afforded on a public "servant's" salary?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:13 PM (I/Qkd)

38 Yet addlepated reporters armed with two DNC talking points and the Sam number of brain cells insist there's no evidence.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 15, 2023 03:13 PM (gGCIA)

39 All this . . . and Joey Shitpants will still win reelection. I'll give anyone odds to the contrary. He is running and, so long as he is still breathing come election day (even on a ventilator), he will handily win reelection.

As for anyone thinking to the contrary, I admire your optimism, but think it borders on wishcasting if not outright delusion. I hope I'm wrong. But barring a truly cataclysmic event, I don't see it happenening any way other than what I said above.

Any takers on the wager?

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

40 Facts First: The existence of these suspicious activity reports don't prove wrongdoing on their own.
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True. They're suspicious activity reports, not criminal activity reports.

But the standard would be to follow up on them. Maybe look at a pattern or trend. You know, look into it.

But standards don't apply to a Biden.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:13 PM (t0OGg)

41 Most American families have scores of shell companies that just move money between them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 15, 2023 03:05 PM (Ibaon)

I have a shell collection. Sometimes it's a pain to move them from one house to the next.

That's not the same thing though.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:13 PM (dGCAG)

42 > "In a hypothetical 2024 general election matchup between President Biden and former President Trump, 47 percent of registered voters support Biden, while 46 percent support Trump, essentially a dead heat "
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The "election" is a hypothetical under any current circumstances anyway.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 15, 2023 03:14 PM (Q4IgG)

43 Things we KNOW

Hunter shared funds with Joe

Hunter asked foreign countries/companies for money in return for favors from Joe

Joe gave them those favors

They paid Hunter

This is more then enough to convict.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2023 03:14 PM (XqcwY)

44 CNN then argues that the claim that the financial transactions involving Biden family members were flagged as suspicious doesn't prove they were criminal.

Facts First: The existence of these suspicious activity reports don't prove wrongdoing on their own.
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Want to read something fun?

Suspicious Activity Reports
www.occ.treas.gov/

"national banks are required to report known or suspected criminal offenses, at specified thresholds, or transactions over $5,000 that they suspect involve money laundering or violate the Bank Secrecy Act. Similar regulations by other regulators apply to other financial institutions.
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A banker might have to file one once in his career. You and I don't know anyone with one on their record.

The Bidens have 200.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 15, 2023 03:14 PM (9nwlC)

45 Hope that shot across the bow isn't just a warning not to run in 2024 but think that is all it is. They will keep him as long as they can until then.

Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2023 03:14 PM (fwDg9)

46 But sure, AP -- "without evidence." "Wipe your chins off," Ed Morrissey says.
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LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:14 PM (t0OGg)

47 I admire Turley and other voices of reason. But the Biden administration ignores ALL reason. If a Republican President is miraculously elected in 2024, it better be someone willing to be ruthless in cutting back government with the one chance we have left.

Strangely enough, this sounds like Ramaswamy.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at September 15, 2023 03:15 PM (64SJM)

48 Trump is and has been as toxic as Biden...just with different folks. Put "anyone else" on that same poll, and it might get 80%+...

I'd like to think so, but current polling doesn't support that assertion. I think the pieces are in motion, though, and things will change.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:15 PM (I/Qkd)

49 >>I really don't see his thinking having changed here. Biden has to go by choice because no Senate is going to convict him in an impeachment trial. This is a desperation move, begging him to step down.

The intel community has been running Ukraine since they ran the coup there in 2014. They know everything Joe and his crackhead son did there. And that's just Ukraine. I'm sure they've got plenty more on China.

I view the Ignatius article as a shot across Joe's bow and if Joe still has any unscrambled brains left he should as well. If they really decide he has to go they can make him go. Unlike Trump there is real evidence of his corruption because he really did commit crimes.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

50 It's kind of a shame that Biden is senile addled. One just knows that he used to know where bodies were buried. A loving, caring father could possibly find bodies to keep a deeply troubled child out of jail.

Posted by: Usedtocould at September 15, 2023 03:15 PM (LRa30)

51 Dems will be begging for the Senate impeachment trial before this is all over. Anything to stop the House investigation and exposure of their system.

The pain will be exquisite.

Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2023 03:16 PM (CaJIi)

52 Has the Deep State ordered the media to drive Biden out of office?
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Not sure yet. It isn't consistent or unified enough at this point to convince me that it's anything more than palace intrigue. But there is much, much more of this than there was recently and if it keeps happening - and spreading to more and more outlets, especially the WaPo - then that would change my opinion.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:16 PM (t0OGg)

53 CNN: Its true Obama was in a room with one other man in which gay sex was happening. But there is no public evidence that Obama himself was receiving the gay sex.
Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:13 PM (sX1BW)

And of the two men in the room, one man was snorting powder cocaine, the other was smoking a crack pipe.

Without any further information, it is impossible to determine whether Barak Hussein Obama was, in fact, smoking crack.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:16 PM (dGCAG)

54 Staffer: "Mr. President, our radars indicate that the Russians have launched 200 ICBMs at the United States. They'll be arriving in 25 minutes. You need to make some decisions immediately."

Biden: "Where's my ice cream?"

Staffer: "You need to make some decisions now, Mr. President."

Biden: "GODDAMN IT, I SAID WHERE'S MY ICE CREAM?

MOMMY, THIS MAN ISN'T GIVING ME MY ICE CREAM!"

DOCTOR Jill Biden: "Why aren't you giving the President his ice cream?

Whatever you're concerned with can wait until the President has finished his ice cream."

Posted by: The Near Future! at September 15, 2023 03:16 PM (2tUFv)

55 Post girthiness level: astonishing

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:16 PM (t0OGg)

56 There is the Sundowner admitted Ukraine bribe

Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2023 03:16 PM (fwDg9)

57 49 The intel community has been running Ukraine since they ran the coup there in 2014. They know everything Joe and his crackhead son did there. And that's just Ukraine. I'm sure they've got plenty more on China.

I view the Ignatius article as a shot across Joe's bow and if Joe still has any unscrambled brains left he should as well. If they really decide he has to go they can make him go. Unlike Trump there is real evidence of his corruption because he really did commit crimes.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

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The only way they can force him is a giant embarrassment where they remove him by force. Biden obviously feels no compulsion to go.

It's not just because he's a dullard. It's a calculated move knowing that all of these voices on the left calling for his departure will become his staunchest supporters if he just survives long enough.

They don't have to fall in love. They just have to fall in line.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:17 PM (LvTSG)

58 "I am NOT a crook"

Posted by: Joe Biden, channeling Richard Nixon at September 15, 2023 03:17 PM (i0w7o)

59
You think someone like Schumer doesn't know who's actually running the WH? When Schumer calls up the WH, does he wait on the line as Biden gets his instructions? Or does he go straight to Valerie Jarrett?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

He bypasses the WH and directly dials some intelligence agency dude. You know, one of those guys who has six ways to Sunday to do the deed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 15, 2023 03:17 PM (63Dwl)

60 Poppin fresh telling someone to wipe their chins off. Ironic gold.

Posted by: NC Kate at September 15, 2023 03:17 PM (an6os)

61 "Trump is and has been as toxic as Biden...just with different folks. Put "anyone else" on that same poll, and it might get 80%+...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 15, 2023 03:12 PM (exHjb)"

Yeah but Meatball Ron is a Bushie!!

/sarc

Posted by: Marcus T at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (gChab)

62 But Joe is sad. He's a sad old man.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (gGCIA)

63 Ooooh. So the newest column *is* from the WaPo. I forgot where Ignatious worked.

If that is more than a one-off, then it's a huge indicator. The WaPo is the Party paper. If it is being permitted to turn on Biden, then it means that the Party is permitting it to turn on Biden.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (t0OGg)

64 As anyone who has ever managed a bank will confirm, banks are loathe to file a Suspicious Activity Report. They'd much rather just take the money and shut up. The only reason they file one is Federal law.
Biden's now have about 150 of them, last time I checked.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (MeG8a)

65 I wonder who the CIA will put into office next.

I am anxious for the player to be named later to actually be named.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (jN7f+)

66 In case you missed Biden's latest lie . . .

Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
JUST IN - Biden told a group of rabbis on Thursday that he was “raised in synagogues in my state [Delaware]” — after previously claiming to have been raised by Delaware’s then-tiny Puerto Rican community, NY Post reports

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"And then I said to Moses, I said, 'Dude, you can't let the Egyptians push you around like that! Let me tell you what I did to Corn Pop.'"

- Joe Biden

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (FVME7)

67 48 Trump is and has been as toxic as Biden...just with different folks. Put "anyone else" on that same poll, and it might get 80%+...

I'd like to think so, but current polling doesn't support that assertion. I think the pieces are in motion, though, and things will change.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:15 PM (I/Qkd)

The hit songs of the summer going number #1 - Try That in a Small Town and Rich Men North of Richmond have transcended politics. It's Billboard, and that's sheer popularity. And they've been charted for weeks, not 1 day.

Folks don't want either person (nor the rest of the 80+ power leaders in Congress) and just want something else, anything else. Whoever puts up anyone else wins.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (exHjb)

68 Who delivers the final news to Joe to go away like Travolta did in Primary Colors? Its a great scene even for a Clinton-esque character.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (sX1BW)

69 "When American intelligence wants to put out a hit, they feed it to David Ignatius "

wasn't Ignatious the guy that received the original Russia collusion story? He wrote the column, Comey briefed Trump about the allegation which was then a story because of the briefing itself and they spun the whole thing up out of thin air?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (z+89e)

70 Joe is not running. He's shuffling. Like Tim Conway as the old man.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 15, 2023 03:19 PM (63Dwl)

71 Joe Biden is not guilty by reason of insanity.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 15, 2023 03:19 PM (R/m4+)

72 Good Lord. This shouldn't even be close.
Posted by: Marcus T

They did say it was 'hypothetical'.

Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2023 03:19 PM (CaJIi)

73 I view the Ignatius article as a shot across Joe's bow and if Joe still has any unscrambled brains left he should as well. If they really decide he has to go they can make him go. Unlike Trump there is real evidence of his corruption because he really did commit crimes.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

I don't believe Alzheimer Joe has any say in this. The "shot across the bow" here is to whichever cabal of Obama people are actually running things.

This is a transfer of power happening. From Team Obama to Team Newsome, or whomever. Or maybe it's a signal to Team Obama, prepare Big Mike for a run, because that used up corpse they have in there now is past his expiration date.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:20 PM (dGCAG)

74 52 Has the Deep State ordered the media to drive Biden out of office?
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Not sure yet. It isn't consistent or unified enough at this point to convince me that it's anything more than palace intrigue. But there is much, much more of this than there was recently and if it keeps happening - and spreading to more and more outlets, especially the WaPo - then that would change my opinion.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:16 PM (t0OGg)
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I'm standing pat on my assertion that Biden isn't going anywhere. See my comment above. Even if the media were truly trying to hound him out (which I don't think they are), what does he care? They tried to hound him out in 2019 and 2020 too.

If anyone really, truly wanted to get rid of him, doing it publicly in the media would not be the way to do it. It'd be an inside job. I see no evidence that's happening. Indeed, just the opposite. The true powerbrokers like their pet president just the way he is.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:20 PM (iFTx/)

75 I don't like McCarthy, but he flogged that press wench so hard she should be wearing an adorable leather bondage outfit.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 15, 2023 03:20 PM (ppBhU)

76 This week, for example, the Republican chairman of the U.S. House of Representatives, Kevin McCarthy, announced impeachment proceedings against U.S. President Joe Biden. Almost simultaneously, Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley announced that an internal FBI document obtained by the U.S. House Oversight Committee for review contained information about 15 audio recordings of Hunter Biden’s conversations and two recordings of Joe Biden’s conversations with a “foreign national” associated with Burisma.

Posted by: SMOD at September 15, 2023 03:20 PM (I/nDX)

77 74 If anyone really, truly wanted to get rid of him, doing it publicly in the media would not be the way to do it. It'd be an inside job. I see no evidence that's happening. Indeed, just the opposite. The true powerbrokers like their pet president just the way he is.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:20 PM (iFTx/)

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They're going public because the private angle has failed to work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

78 They would then counter that it depends on what the meaning of "bribe" is.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (I/Qkd)
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Isn't "bribe" an old Ukrainian word for "nothing to see here?"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (QxAkH)

79 I almost feel sorry for Joe Biden. He's such a cut rate crook.

He'd never made it in the private sector criminal circles.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (xcxpd)

80 ??The only way they can force him is a giant embarrassment where they remove him by force. Biden obviously feels no compulsion to go.

They can threaten to start leaking all the dirt they have on Hunter, Jim and Joe himself if he doesn't play ball.

That latest Fox poll is pretty eye opening when you dig into the particulars. Fox hates Trump but even they are showing him winning with suburban women, gaining bigly with minorities and pretty handily leading Joe. And if he's winning in the popular vote he's wining big.

Schumer's crack about the intel community having six ways from Sunday at getting back at people that cross them isn't just for Republicans. They did a pretty complete job on JFK.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (ZLI7S)

81 kamala might be an even worse president than biden because she will very likely believe that she is really in charge

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (B1FKF)

82 Ignatius is the stenographer for the Intelligence Community.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (2tUFv)

83 When American intelligence wants to put out a hit, they feed it to David Ignatius
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This is true, because the WaPo is the Party/IC paper, whereas the NYT is the State/LE paper. Sort of like Pravda and Izvestia in the old USSR.

I've been waiting for the WaPo to turn over on the Biden issue before I'd entertain the notion that might be looking to drop him. This still hasn't happened, but this is a big first move. If the IC is moving out from backing Biden, the Party may well follow. One article does not a trend make, but it's a fairly serious warning.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (t0OGg)

84 79 I almost feel sorry for Joe Biden. He's such a cut rate crook.

He'd never made it in the private sector criminal circles.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (xcxpd)

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They expect results.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

85 Wifey listens to Sky News at night. From England.

For five years, starting during the primaries when they were basically Hillary's press secretary, they were all Trump and American news all the time. In England. Every time he breathed it was endless breathless scandalous news. Every night nonstop.

From what I've heard they don't even talk about America anymore. Ever. Their idiot viewers are completely in the dark that Biden has any issues at all. I don't think they evrn know about Maui which if a Republican was president would still be the top story in the world.

It's odd to me that Sky News seems to be a DNC operation, seeing as there is purportedly no voting interest over there. Yet here we are.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2023 03:22 PM (UvlF7)

86 Whether McCarthy is doing this for show, or because he is being forced to by the twenty isn't the important thing. The important thing is that public hearings can't easily be lied about, and the facts will get out and speak for themselves.

Even better, the press will do its usual job attacking their opposition party, the republicans, and those like Romney who were profiting off of the same bribery system will very likely go down as well. You wonder why Romney chose this time to announce he is out?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 15, 2023 03:22 PM (lTGtQ)

87 Babylon Bee is behind the eight-ball on this one. During Dem admins, the media take orders from the WH. During Republican admins, they take them from the DNC HQ. It's been this way for nearly a century.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2023 03:23 PM (0FoWg)

88 79 I almost feel sorry for Joe Biden. He's such a cut rate crook.
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Seems to be doing alright for himself honestly.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2023 03:23 PM (UvlF7)

89 80They can threaten to start leaking all the dirt they have on Hunter, Jim and Joe himself if he doesn't play ball.

That latest Fox poll is pretty eye opening when you dig into the particulars. Fox hates Trump but even they are showing him winning with suburban women, gaining bigly with minorities and pretty handily leading Joe. And if he's winning in the popular vote he's wining big.

Schumer's crack about the intel community having six ways from Sunday at getting back at people that cross them isn't just for Republicans. They did a pretty complete job on JFK.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (ZLI7S)

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The idea that there's something else on Hunter that will embarrass Joe into not running for reelection when he's POTUS is hilarious.

The laptop is filled with visual confirmation of Hunter's whoring with his own female family members.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:23 PM (LvTSG)

90 Democrats in 2019: "Somebody heard from somebody else that the president said something dodgy on a phone call. Impeach!"

Democrats in 2023: "Unless you have incontrovertible evidence that the president committed a major felony, there shouldn't even be an investigation."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (9yUzE)

91 >>I don't believe Alzheimer Joe has any say in this. The "shot across the bow" here is to whichever cabal of Obama people are actually running things.

Yea, I disagree with this. I don't think Obama is smart enough to run a lemonade stand. He was a puppet although a much smarter one just like Joe.

I think the people who ran Obama are the same people who are running Joe and are the same people who really attempted to take down Trump, the intel community. Politicians come and go but the intel community never leaves and they have been gaining power in DC since the day they were formed.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (ZLI7S)

92 I am anxious for the player to be named later to actually be named.
Posted by: Just Lily at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (jN7f+)

He's been named. They just can't announce it yet. He's in the "oh no, I'm not a candidate for President, Joe and Cummala are running things now" stage of his campaign.

Roughly comparable to when the press is hounding George Steinbrenner, and he says "no, I'm not thinking of firing Billy, I have complete confidence in Martin as my manager, for the rest of the year and beyond."

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (dGCAG)

93 Claim: Ted Kennedy killed his mistress and staged it as a car wreck.

Facts First: Yes, his mistress was dead in a car accident that Ted Kennedy failed to report immediately even though he admitted to driving the car, but there is no public evidence of any wrongdoing.

I guess this just comes easy for the press.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (sX1BW)

94 If anyone really, truly wanted to get rid of him, doing it publicly in the media would not be the way to do it. It'd be an inside job. I see no evidence that's happening. Indeed, just the opposite. The true powerbrokers like their pet president just the way he is.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:20 PM (iFTx/)
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The media is a part of an inside job. All of the press is captured. They do the bidding of their masters, just like everyone else. The WaPo is a bellwether outlet. This kind of thing in the WaPo is meaningful and Ignatius doesn't write a single word without being briefed by spooks.

That said, there are plenty of options. The most appealing might just be to off him. He's a frail old man and all it would take is a flight of stairs. Let Kamala take over, pin the blame for the disastrous last few years on his rotting corpse, pick someone else, and go fix the election. Fairly clean.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (t0OGg)

95 88 79 I almost feel sorry for Joe Biden. He's such a cut rate crook.
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Seems to be doing alright for himself honestly.
Posted by: ... at September 15, 2023 03:23 PM (UvlF7)

He could be making Clinton money. Pelosi money. And he's not. 20 million? Fucking Elizabeth Warren is making more cash than that.

He really is dumb.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (xcxpd)

96 It's not just Hunter and Joe.

Under the new rules of the J6 Committee and the DOJ prosecutions, the House can go after ALL the Biden's by merely suggesting Joe committed a crime, even a made up crime.

Sure, they can hide Hunter behind the 5th and Joe behind executive privileges.

But his brother? Nieces? Etc?

There is a whole web of corruption to untangle-- and sitting like a fat spider in the middle is Joe.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (bbiUj)

97 Soon: Trumps fault, Republicans fault.

Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (W+TLY)

98 Yea, I disagree with this. I don't think Obama is smart enough to run a lemonade stand. He was a puppet although a much smarter one just like Joe.

I think the people who ran Obama are the same people who are running Joe and are the same people who really attempted to take down Trump, the intel community. Politicians come and go but the intel community never leaves and they have been gaining power in DC since the day they were formed.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (ZLI7S)

Right, that's what I'm saying. Team Obama is Obama's runners, not Barak Hussein Obama himself.

He's too busy banging his chefs, and then having them killed.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:25 PM (dGCAG)

99 It's odd to me that Sky News seems to be a DNC operation, seeing as there is purportedly no voting interest over there. Yet here we are.

Posted by: ...

The DNC, Labour, the French socialist party, and the German left wing party as well as their greens are all coordinating strategy. They even share consultants. They certainly share talking points, like build back better. That was internationally promulgated.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 15, 2023 03:25 PM (lTGtQ)

100 54 Knowing that Joe is a waterbrain, it frightened me that he might launch a nuke strike just for jollies. They, the Junta have fucked things up to the point I'm scared he wouldn't do it when required. "They'll get over it. What's Omaha and where the hell is my ice cream?".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 15, 2023 03:26 PM (0EOe9)

101 97 ~~Soon~~ Always: Trumps fault, Republicans fault.

Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (W+TLY)

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FIFY

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:26 PM (LvTSG)

102 So they are going to replace Biden with Newsom, a very white heterosexual male? And they're going to get rid of Harris?

Even if they name a left-handed transgender Black/Latina lesbian to be VP, large sections of the Democratic base are not going to be happy.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 15, 2023 03:26 PM (2tUFv)

103 84 79 I almost feel sorry for Joe Biden. He's such a cut rate crook.

He'd never made it in the private sector criminal circles.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (xcxpd)

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They expect results.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

Not like government employee slobs

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 15, 2023 03:26 PM (xcxpd)

104 Only my theory, most of the top politicians know who to report to, Chucky, Nanzi, WH Czars and such. Maybe at least who to report to to get the messages or suggestions to .

Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2023 03:26 PM (fwDg9)

105 Wasn't Romney's kid and Pelosi's kid caught up in Ukraine/Burisma, too? That's partly why I thought Romney is retiring - they want to move on from this mess, so they are getting rid of all those parents politically (who probably also profited).

Or maybe I'm mistaken...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (exHjb)

106 >This is true, because the WaPo is the Party/IC paper, whereas the NYT is the State/LE paper. Sort of like Pravda and Izvestia in the old USSR.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (t0OGg)

I love that we literally have to do Kremlinology in the United States A.D. 2023 in order to try to suss out any reality.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (74FUh)

107 meanwhile, the people running the show will probably let biden stay in the white house so long as he can still sign executive orders as he's told to do

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (B1FKF)

108 99 The DNC, Labour, the French socialist party, and the German left wing party as well as their greens are all coordinating strategy. They even share consultants. They certainly share talking points, like build back better. That was internationally promulgated.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 15, 2023 03:25 PM (lTGtQ)

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Or, Five Eyes was an effort to control the flow of information in all major European and Anglo powers, and their mouth pieces are the state media organizations.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (LvTSG)

109 If anyone really, truly wanted to get rid of him, doing it publicly in the media would not be the way to do it. It'd be an inside job. I see no evidence that's happening.

Of course it will be done offline. They can't have Joe spilling the beans on all their BS. The same applies for Kamala.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (I/Qkd)

110 77 74 If anyone really, truly wanted to get rid of him, doing it publicly in the media would not be the way to do it. It'd be an inside job. I see no evidence that's happening. Indeed, just the opposite. The true powerbrokers like their pet president just the way he is.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:20 PM (iFTx/)

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They're going public because the private angle has failed to work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:21 PM (LvTSG)
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If the private angle didn't work, and all the real powerbrokers failed, then the public angle is little more than ankle-biting.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (iFTx/)

111 That said, there are plenty of options. The most appealing might just be to off him. He's a frail old man and all it would take is a flight of stairs. Let Kamala take over, pin the blame for the disastrous last few years on his rotting corpse, pick someone else, and go fix the election. Fairly clean.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (t0OGg)
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It wouldn't even take a flight of stairs..."Natural causes" could easily happen spontaneously.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (QxAkH)

112 88 79 I almost feel sorry for Joe Biden. He's such a cut rate crook.
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Seems to be doing alright for himself honestly.
Posted by: ... at September 15, 2023 03:23 PM (UvlF7)

He's the beneficiary of a ruling class dedicated to protecting their own.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (KbCG3)

113 110 If the private angle didn't work, and all the real powerbrokers failed, then the public angle is little more than ankle-biting.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (iFTx/)

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He's president of the fucking United States.

That's a big fucking deal, Jack.

You don't just walk away from that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:28 PM (LvTSG)

114 >>The laptop is filled with visual confirmation of Hunter's whoring with his own female family members.

What I find hilarious is the idea that Joe frigging Biden has the brains and stamina to fight anything. If they want to push him out, if they think he is too damaged to even have a shot, they will push him out. He's never been particularly popular and he's one of the dumbest people in DC. He has no chance if the swamp wants him gone.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)

115 Kabuki.

Posted by: Eromero at September 15, 2023 03:28 PM (z3WCn)

116 Everything hinges on Biden ending his campaign for a second term.

Posted by: 13times at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (bhNlw)

117
He's been named. They just can't announce it yet. He's in the "oh no, I'm not a candidate for President, Joe and Cummala are running things now" stage of his campaign.

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Named, announced, whatever.

Until they actually splash a name out we won't know for sure.

Much jockeying for position going on still.

There are trillions at stake. No one will walk willingly away from that. The infighting must be incredible.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (jN7f+)

118 102 So they are going to replace Biden with Newsom, a very white heterosexual male? And they're going to get rid of Harris?

Even if they name a left-handed transgender Black/Latina lesbian to be VP, large sections of the Democratic base are not going to be happy.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 15, 2023 03:26 PM (2tUFv)

Uh, they're going to the mat to defend Biden.

The base can say what it wants. It'll still end up tonguing the nominee's white man balls.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (KbCG3)

119 Bribery? Try treason on for size.

Posted by: Chicago Vota at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (mbH6j)

120 105 I think Kerry's kid was in on the deal.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (0EOe9)

121 I guess this just comes easy for the press.
Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (sX1BW)

Yeah, he could just say that. "Yes, I drove to the bank with $20 million in Chi Nah bribe money, but I hit a curb and wrecked the car. I hastily left the scene, but then when I returned later, the car and the Chi Nah bribe money was gone. I'm sorry... was that wrong?"

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (dGCAG)

122 i always thought obama was lazy but really enjoyed the perks and privileges, like partying with celebrities.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (B1FKF)

123 No one's getting rid of Biden. Unless he dies or has a catastophic illness/health event (I mean more catastophic than whatever has reduced him to being a shambling barely functional husk who can't even molest children effectively any longer), he's going to be the nominee.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (ppBhU)

124 What I find hilarious is the idea that Joe frigging Biden has the brains and stamina to fight anything. If they want to push him out, if they think he is too damaged to even have a shot, they will push him out. He's never been particularly popular and he's one of the dumbest people in DC. He has no chance if the swamp wants him gone.

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A bit more difficult when you don't have someone ready to step in his place.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (sX1BW)

125 meanwhile, the people running the show will probably let biden stay in the white house so long as he can still sign executive orders as he's told to do

Their worry is that Biden will completely fall apart mentally, and soon.

Even for them that might be a problem.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (2tUFv)

126 It's odd to me that Sky News seems to be a DNC operation, seeing as there is purportedly no voting interest over there. Yet here we are.
Posted by: ...

They are trans-national socialist propagandists. Real One-World shit. Anything & anyone that interrupts their masters plan is targeted for destruction.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2023 03:30 PM (IG4Id)

127 114 What I find hilarious is the idea that Joe frigging Biden has the brains and stamina to fight anything. If they want to push him out, if they think he is too damaged to even have a shot, they will push him out. He's never been particularly popular and he's one of the dumbest people in DC. He has no chance if the swamp wants him gone.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)

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He doesn't have to fight. He just has to last.

It's how he made it through the 2020 primary. I see no evidence that the entire party won't call this stuff "old news" the second it becomes too late to replace him.

The narrative will then shift to trying to pin FARA violations on Republicans and their inner circles, enriching the "drama" of the GOP as a whole and the corruption that's kind of both sides but is mostly Republican.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:30 PM (LvTSG)

128 Paul Krugman
@paulkrugman
An inflation update: in the past I've focused on a measure that excludes lagging shelter and used cars as well as food and energy. Just to note that it adds to the evidence that inflation has been largely defeated

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So just stop eating, living inside buildings, and traveling and life is sweeeeeeeeeeet!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (FVME7)

129 One month.

Ignatius said they had one month to get Biden to agree not to run again.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (2tUFv)

130 What I find hilarious is the idea that Joe frigging Biden has the brains and stamina to fight anything. If they want to push him out, if they think he is too damaged to even have a shot, they will push him out. He's never been particularly popular and he's one of the dumbest people in DC. He has no chance if the swamp wants him gone.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)

Cuomo went from giving them all instant orgasms to being out of a job within a few months. All because he wanted to watch a chick eat a sausage.

Yeah, if they want Biden gone, he'll be gone.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (KbCG3)

131 Brandon is a prime contender for the Kirov play. That's the play I'd run, if I were a Party man who wanted rid of him. The time is as right as it'll ever be. Set up a patsy, install your new guy for good, and kick off a purge to back it up.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (0FoWg)

132 Quel whoopsie:

@TheInsiderPaper 25m
BREAKING: The French ambassador and other diplomats are "being held hostage" at the embassy in Niger, Macron says

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (IG4Id)

133 OK, I just got done reading all the girth.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (MvF+J)

134 129 One month.

Ignatius said they had one month to get Biden to agree not to run again.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (2tUFv)

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"In four weeks, I'll be your little bitch again. Please step aside."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (LvTSG)

135 Obama is a cipher. He existed purely for white people to project their hopes on and receive a secular indulgence for voting for the magic negro. Left to his own devices, he could not do anything. He's unaccomplished and has the intellectual heft of a male underwear model.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 15, 2023 03:32 PM (ppBhU)

136 When anyone says, "but Joe has released his tax returns!" they are lying by omission.

He has released his personal tax return.
With a single line for the 20 LLCs he owns.

He has not released the tax return for a single LLC.

Under the precedent the Democrats set going after Trump, the IRS must turn those over to the House.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 15, 2023 03:32 PM (bbiUj)

137 re 111: or like i've said before, tripping and falling out a third floor window

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 15, 2023 03:32 PM (B1FKF)

138 "Ignatius said they had one month to get Biden to agree not to run again."

#twotwoweeks

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (MvF+J)

139 The biggest item that has Liberals scared is that if they investigate Biden, then Chocolate Jesus may be ensnared. The Ukraine firing could not happen without Obama's order. Obama also had to know when Biden was VP he was runnimng a scam. They will do everything to sacrafice Biden to protect the "Golden Calf".........

Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (R+nZe)

140 Joe Biden, the Hindenburg of our times, only in office because he will die most ricki tikki and the crew can take over.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (0EOe9)

141 Brandon is a prime contender for the Kirov play.

And blame the killing on white nationalist MAGA supporters.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (2tUFv)

142 “ 105 Wasn't Romney's kid and Pelosi's kid caught up in Ukraine/Burisma, too? ”

Cindy McCain and Romney’s children. Cindy traveling to Ukraine as an election observer and unofficial ambassador. That’s how she was sold to us - good will ambassador.

Posted by: 13times at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (bhNlw)

143 Sure, they can hide Hunter behind the 5th and Joe behind executive privileges.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (bbiUj)

Actually, in their hunt for Trump, they have destroyed both executive privilege, AND, Attorney Client Privilege.

They destroyed those rules, and now we need to make them play the same game.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (TcT+v)

144 @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: The French ambassador and other diplomats are "being held hostage" at the embassy in Niger, Macron says
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (IG4Id)
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Don't the French have helicopters?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (t0OGg)

145 There are trillions at stake. No one will walk willingly away from that. The infighting must be incredible.
Posted by: Just Lily at September 15, 2023 03:29 PM (jN7f+)

Yes, and it must be tough for one Democrat crime family to cede power to the next. Team Hillory seems to be done, but are they? Team Newsome looks to me like the only one powerful enough to move up to the big leagues.

No doubt Team Obama is not going to give it up unless they have to. I just don't know that they have any cards left to play, except Big Mike. They can try to keep Alzheimer Joe on the ticket, but obviously that's getting harder and harder to do every day.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (dGCAG)

146 139 The biggest item that has Liberals scared is that if they investigate Biden, then Chocolate Jesus may be ensnared. The Ukraine firing could not happen without Obama's order. Obama also had to know when Biden was VP he was runnimng a scam. They will do everything to sacrafice Biden to protect the "Golden Calf".........
Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (R+nZe)

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The entire leadership of both parties is knee deep in all of this. Every single one of them.

The system isn't corrupt. The corruption is the system.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

147 He's unaccomplished and has the intellectual heft of a male underwear model.

What is this? A center for ants? How can we be expected to teach children to learn how to read... if they can't even fit inside the building?!

Posted by: Barack Obama at the dedication of the Obama "library" at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (I/Qkd)

148 113 110 If the private angle didn't work, and all the real powerbrokers failed, then the public angle is little more than ankle-biting.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:27 PM (iFTx/)

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He's president of the fucking United States.

That's a big fucking deal, Jack.

You don't just walk away from that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:28 PM (LvTSG)
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Yes, EXACTLY. I'm not sure if you're trolling me or not, but my point is that Biden -- and everyone in Biden's orbit, which includes some very powerful people -- is NEVER going to walk away, no matter what. He's running unless they can kill or disable him to the point where he's in a coma.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:34 PM (iFTx/)

149 145 Yes, and it must be tough for one Democrat crime family to cede power to the next. Team Hillory seems to be done, but are they? Team Newsome looks to me like the only one powerful enough to move up to the big leagues.

No doubt Team Obama is not going to give it up unless they have to. I just don't know that they have any cards left to play, except Big Mike. They can try to keep Alzheimer Joe on the ticket, but obviously that's getting harder and harder to do every day.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (dGCAG)

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Team Newsom is technically just the next generation of Team Pelois.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:34 PM (LvTSG)

150 DC wants Trump. They stole it once, they will steal it again.
Creating new methods of cheating helps, not hurts, them.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 15, 2023 03:34 PM (Eeb9P)

151 The problem is, as decrepit and corrupt as Biden is, there is one person in the country so incredibly stupid, dangerously inept, and phenomenally incompetent, that this is preventing the powers that be from removing him.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 15, 2023 03:34 PM (lTGtQ)

152 139 The biggest item that has Liberals scared is that if they investigate Biden, then Chocolate Jesus may be ensnared. The Ukraine firing could not happen without Obama's order. Obama also had to know when Biden was VP he was runnimng a scam. They will do everything to sacrafice Biden to protect the "Golden Calf".........
Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (R+nZe)

Yup, Obama's somehow went from poor Senator, to owning multiple mansions, in just a few years...

On a President's salary? on BOOK SALES? yeah... right...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (TcT+v)

153 Dragging Joe out of the White House will involve spectacular screaming.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (gGCIA)

154 re 132: biden will send members of the 88the airborne poofters to save them

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (B1FKF)

155 142 “ 105 Wasn't Romney's kid and Pelosi's kid caught up in Ukraine/Burisma, too? ”

Cindy McCain and Romney’s children. Cindy traveling to Ukraine as an election observer and unofficial ambassador. That’s how she was sold to us - good will ambassador.
Posted by: 13times at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (bhNlw)

Okay, so I wasn't dreaming about more political kids - and Kerry's kid sounds familiar, too...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (exHjb)

156 Maxine Waters, the Joe Louis of Congress!

Maxine Waters
@RepMaxineWaters
Many are worried that the Judge has extended Trump’s trial date. Not to worry! TRUMP CAN’T RUN. TRUMP CAN’T HIDE. He will be imprisoned with Ivanka by his side!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (FVME7)

157 Dragging Joe out of the White House will involve spectacular screaming.

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That's DOCTOR Jill Biden to you.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (sX1BW)

158 148 Yes, EXACTLY. I'm not sure if you're trolling me or not, but my point is that Biden -- and everyone in Biden's orbit, which includes some very powerful people -- is NEVER going to walk away, no matter what. He's running unless they can kill or disable him to the point where he's in a coma.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:34 PM (iFTx/)

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I'd never deny the charge of trolling, but I would bet against it in this instance.

It's already known that Biden's son is a sleezeball, and the press are still protecting him. It's already known that Biden is massively corrupt, and they're still protecting him (please step down is not an attack, it's a plea).

Biden has to choose to leave. It's about patronage, not about electability.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

159 134 129 One month.

Ignatius said they had one month to get Biden to agree not to run again.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (2tUFv)

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"In four weeks, I'll be your little bitch again. Please step aside."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (LvTSG)
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This. By the end of October, that little prick Ignatius and all the rest will fall dutifully behind Biden.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (iFTx/)

160 BREAKING: The French ambassador and other diplomats are "being held hostage" at the embassy in Niger, Macron says

BREAKING: Today Biden and NATO did a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Niger to end Global Warming in Africa to ensure children of color have equal rights according to VP Harris..

Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (R+nZe)

161 re 153: from dr jill. they'd just need to tell joe that they're going for ice cream

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (B1FKF)

162 Dragging Joe out of the White House will involve spectacular screaming.

And the flinging of feces. Don't forget the flinging of feces.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (I/Qkd)

163 Maxine Waters, Lady Humongous of Congress.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (xhaym)

164 The propaganda ministries and the Dem operatives who deny Biden got money assume the the reset of America is as stupid as the Dem voter. Their denials are comical

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (O8bOp)

165 158 148 Yes, EXACTLY. I'm not sure if you're trolling me or not, but my point is that Biden -- and everyone in Biden's orbit, which includes some very powerful people -- is NEVER going to walk away, no matter what. He's running unless they can kill or disable him to the point where he's in a coma.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:34 PM (iFTx/)

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I'd never deny the charge of trolling, but I would bet against it in this instance.

It's already known that Biden's son is a sleezeball, and the press are still protecting him. It's already known that Biden is massively corrupt, and they're still protecting him (please step down is not an attack, it's a plea).

Biden has to choose to leave. It's about patronage, not about electability.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)
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So you're agreeing with me that he's going nowhere?

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (iFTx/)

166 At what point does official DC start asking who's actually in charge? Everyone knows it's not Alzheimer Joe. So who is it?

Is that not relevant to all of this?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (dGCAG)

Everyone knows but no one will mention the Kalorama cartel. It's sort of like the old cliche that there's no such thing as the mafia.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 15, 2023 03:37 PM (BdMk6)

167 165 So you're agreeing with me that he's going nowhere?
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (iFTx/)

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Yes.

They have to kill him to get him out. I wouldn't put it past them (a bad case of covid would serve a couple of purposes), but that's the line they'll have to cross.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

168 BREAKING: The French ambassador and other diplomats are "being held hostage" at the embassy in Niger, Macron says

That's been true for days. The Niger government isn't letting any supplies in, and has cut off water and electricity to the embassy.

The Niger government is demanding that the ambassador leave, and Macron says that since the new government is illegitimate, the ambassador isn't going anywhere.

It's a funny form of "hostage taking" when the purported "hostage" is free to leave the country at any time.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 15, 2023 03:37 PM (2tUFv)

169 BREAKING: The French ambassador and other diplomats are "being held hostage" at the embassy in Niger, Macron says
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (IG4Id)

I think andycanuck said it best when he posted wait until Joe Biden has to speak about the coup in Niger.

Niger please!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 15, 2023 03:38 PM (R/m4+)

170 @TheInsiderPaper 25m
BREAKING: The French ambassador and other diplomats are "being held hostage" at the embassy in Niger, Macron says
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (IG4Id)

Ok, lemme see if I can do this right...

Oh no!

Anyway...

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:38 PM (dGCAG)

171 @RepMaxineWaters
Many are worried that the Judge has extended Trump’s trial date. Not to worry! TRUMP CAN’T RUN. TRUMP CAN’T HIDE. He will be imprisoned with Ivanka by his side!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (FVME7)
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EM-APPLE-PIE FOUDIE FIE!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:39 PM (t0OGg)

172 I figure Joe comes down with cancer. Everything lately has been cancer cancer cancer. Moon shot. Earth shot. Beaver shot. We've cured cancer. But Joe will get it and won't be able to run again. The karma gods at play.

Posted by: NC Kate at September 15, 2023 03:39 PM (an6os)

173 So it will be a fake blow for truth, justice and the American way of oral sex.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 15, 2023 03:39 PM (nK3TT)

174 On a President's salary? on BOOK SALES? yeah... right...
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 15, 2023 03:35 PM (TcT+v)
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Book sales are a classic money-laundering operation. Like art.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 15, 2023 03:39 PM (QxAkH)

175 "Dragging Joe out of the White House will involve spectacular screaming."

They'll just change the bag on his infuser.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at September 15, 2023 03:39 PM (MvF+J)

176 Dragging Joe out of the White House will involve spectacular screaming.

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You know, back in 2016, when Trump won I thought we were going to see politics become entertaining.

I had no idea how entertaining.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 15, 2023 03:39 PM (jN7f+)

177 "They" (whoever 'they' is) need the cooperation of both Democrats and Republicans to oust *biden.

They/them/those people don't have that cooperation yet. Might not ever get it either. It might be difficult to get a majority too.

There's a lot of money at stake. The exposure for being corrupt shit weasels is a distant second thought.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 15, 2023 03:40 PM (Q4IgG)

178 Team Newsom is technically just the next generation of Team Pelois.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:34 PM (LvTSG)

I can believe it. I don't know enough about that godforsaken state, other than it should fall into the sea*.

*After all the good people get out, natch.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (dGCAG)

179 177 There's a lot of money at stake. The exposure for being corrupt shit weasels is a distant second thought.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 15, 2023 03:40 PM (Q4IgG)

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Because they have the money to pay the blue city election workers what they need to pay them to do things the right way.

The people don't deserve a say in their government anymore because the people are lesser than the bureaucrats who profit off of them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

180 Yes.

They have to kill him to get him out. I wouldn't put it past them (a bad case of covid would serve a couple of purposes), but that's the line they'll have to cross.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

If they go that route, they'll have a MAGA patsy ready to go. Suddenly, Delaware will become MAGA country and a fully masked guy in khakis will take Joe out in a very public way.

The killer will never be caught.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (KbCG3)

181 One thing that is astonishing to me about Biden, and there are plenty more, is the fact that holds the most prestigious title in the entire world. Yet, he still feels the compulsion to brag about past accomplishments, even really stupid ones. Then there are the outlandish lies and embellishments of events he was not even involved in. Having the honor of being the"president" of the United States just doesn't seem like it satisfies him very much.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (XeHMZ)

182 This. By the end of October, that little prick Ignatius and all the rest will fall dutifully behind Biden.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (iFTx/)

I'll give it to January 2024. Then ALL the dem apparatus will fall into line.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (BdMk6)

183 Did you know how much Mitch McConnell looks like Granny Clampett.
It's uncanny.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (gGCIA)

184 178 Team Newsom is technically just the next generation of Team Pelosi.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:34 PM (LvTSG)

I can believe it. I don't know enough about that godforsaken state, other than it should fall into the sea*.

*After all the good people get out, natch.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (dGCAG)

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He's her nephew, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

185 Obviously Inflation is caused by Corporate Greed and not Poor President Biden's policies.........

I think we should raise Corporate Taxes to 150% Now to fix this problem. CNN says the dame thing, so it must be true !!

Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (R+nZe)

186 At what point does official DC start asking who's actually in charge? Everyone knows it's not Alzheimer Joe. So who is it?

Is that not relevant to all of this?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:10 PM (dGCAG)
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Because they all know the answer already: nobody.

Nobody is in charge. That much is very clear at this point even from the outside. Biden's strings aren't be pulled by someone else, they're being pulled by many someone elses.

It's a factional war. There are competing cabals and they all have their own influence networks, intelligence networks, journalists, generals, agency heads, etc. They shift. There is some overlap. They continuously jockey for position and to eke out small improvements and expansions. Nothing is aligned or coordinated. Nobody is in control.

This is how it always goes in a one-party state, but it compounds mightily when there's a weak ruler. When the King is a 'tard, the courtiers go nuts.

Well, our courtiers are going nuts.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:42 PM (t0OGg)

187 They'll just change the bag on his infuser.
Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at September 15, 2023 03:39 PM (MvF+J)

Yeah, just stop giving him whatever they've been giving him to keep his eyes partially open, and his lips mumbling.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:42 PM (dGCAG)

188 I don’t think Newsom will be the nominee for various reasons. His internal campaign polling is likely catastrophic; he’d not be bootlicking Biden/Harris for any other reason.

Posted by: 13times at September 15, 2023 03:42 PM (bhNlw)

189 The European Left may be working in tandem, but to what purpose? And by what ability?

"In act of divine retribution, equestrian statue of Angela Merkel collapses spontaneously under its own weight"

https://tinyurl.com/yeybb4br

Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 03:42 PM (xhaym)

190 182 This. By the end of October, that little prick Ignatius and all the rest will fall dutifully behind Biden.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (iFTx/)

I'll give it to January 2024. Then ALL the dem apparatus will fall into line.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (BdMk6)

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There will be a small assortment of voices that last until the convention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:42 PM (LvTSG)

191 maxine waters is an idiot. a few years ago when she was head of some finance type committee in the house of reps, she asked a bunch of bank ceos how much they had done in student loans in the past ten years, the first three said none and jamie diamon said 'none, the fed gov't took that over ten years ago.'

someone remind me if i have this wrong.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (B1FKF)

192 hey" (whoever 'they' is) need the cooperation of both Democrats and Republicans to oust *biden.

They/them/those people don't have that cooperation yet. Might not ever get it either. It might be difficult to get a majority too.

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Hence Cornyn approves of the impeachment inquiry.

They are getting the Uniparty on board.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (sX1BW)

193 Those poll numbers don't make any sense. Biden up in a projection over Trump (disclaimer: I most certainly don't support another term of Trump unless I have to)...

Now take a look at the potential Republican primary polls...which have Trump up over 60% to DeSantis (receding) 10 to 13%. It's not even a contest.

So, whom is everyone being polled holding out for?

Posted by: Orson at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (dIske)

194 Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2023 03:30 PM (IG4Id)

You wouldn't believe it if you didn't see it with your own eyes

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (UvlF7)

195 If they go that route, they'll have a MAGA patsy ready to go. Suddenly, Delaware will become MAGA country and a fully masked guy in khakis will take Joe out in a very public way.

The killer will never be caught.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

Smell-a-ware? No, it has to be Texas for the two-fer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (IG4Id)

196 Jill will not let her hubby go because she is evil and loves the power and using Shit For Brains Joe for her gain ...

Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (R+nZe)

197 Then there are the outlandish lies and embellishments of events he was not even involved in. Having the honor of being the"president" of the United States just doesn't seem like it satisfies him very much.

This is how people behave when they know they've got a position they didn't earn, and shouldn't have. See also, Kamala Harris and Jumanji Brown.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (I/Qkd)

198 Afternoon.

Posted by: Robert at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (1Yy3c)

199 This leggy blonde in leather boots doesn't think some "impeachment inquiry" or corruption allegation will have anything to do with the end of Biden - whenever or however it eventually happens:
https://is.gd/3JfjHv

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)

200 When it's a democrat, everything needs to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt for the media to even pretend to report on the story. Maybe even a heightened burden of proof above beyond a reasonable doubt that our jurisprudence has yet to come up with.

When it's a republican, mere inuendo is enough to report on it as true.

It's a fun game, really.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (mj0Qp)

201 193 Those poll numbers don't make any sense. Biden up in a projection over Trump (disclaimer: I most certainly don't support another term of Trump unless I have to)...

Now take a look at the potential Republican primary polls...which have Trump up over 60% to DeSantis (receding) 10 to 13%. It's not even a contest.

So, whom is everyone being polled holding out for?
Posted by: Orson at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (dIske)

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What incentive do public polling firms have to be accurate right now? Are they graded on how accurate they are 14 months out from an election?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

202 Hot Air: Dove partners with BLM activist who destroyed a white student's life as 'fat acceptance ambassador'

https://tinyurl.com/5c6kmfhc

Destroy lives, receive rewards.

Posted by: Robert at September 15, 2023 03:44 PM (1Yy3c)

203 Those poll numbers don't make any sense. Biden up in a projection over Trump (disclaimer: I most certainly don't support another term of Trump unless I have to)...

The poll was conducted in Philly, Hollywood, LA, Chicago, and NYC.

Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:44 PM (R+nZe)

204 He could be making Clinton money. Pelosi money. And he's not. 20 million? Fucking Elizabeth Warren is making more cash than that.

He really is dumb.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 15, 2023 03:24 PM (xcxpd)

Honestly we don't have the first clue how much cash flow the Bidens are balls deep in. The thing about the Clintons is how much they do in the open whereas the Biden operation is mostly sneak

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2023 03:44 PM (UvlF7)

205 Will the Texas senate decide this afternoon? I would think they want to get on with their weekend.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 15, 2023 03:44 PM (sX1BW)

206 Shakin the tree boss

Shakin’ the tree here, boss.

Shaking the bush, Boss. Shaking the bush.

Shaking the tree over here, Boss.

Posted by: Corporate Media at September 15, 2023 03:44 PM (PwgSL)

207 They have to kill him to get him out. I wouldn't put it past them (a bad case of covid would serve a couple of purposes), but that's the line they'll have to cross.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

My dream scenario is that VP Harris, in a fit of pique by being told by the First Lady to shut up and sit in the back of the bus, announces at one of her required presences to the Senate that Biden is incompetent by reason of dementia and she is being blocked from 25A proceedings by DOCTOR Jill.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 03:45 PM (xhaym)

208 199 This leggy blonde in leather boots doesn't think some "impeachment inquiry" or corruption allegation will have anything to do with the end of Biden - whenever or however it eventually happens:
https://is.gd/3JfjHv
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)

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EE stands for Everyone Else, calling for the end of all humanity like in the movie Knowing.

1/10

Would not bang.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:45 PM (LvTSG)

209 Because they all know the answer already: nobody.

Nobody is in charge. That much is very clear at this point even from the outside. Biden's strings aren't be pulled by someone else, they're being pulled by many someone elses.

It's a factional war. There are competing cabals and they all have their own influence networks, intelligence networks, journalists, generals, agency heads, etc. They shift. There is some overlap. They continuously jockey for position and to eke out small improvements and expansions. Nothing is aligned or coordinated. Nobody is in control.

This is how it always goes in a one-party state, but it compounds mightily when there's a weak ruler. When the King is a 'tard, the courtiers go nuts.

I think you may be right. It's similar to the Warring States Period in ancient China.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:45 PM (I/Qkd)

210 If I was picking a darkhorse for the Dem replacement, I'd pick the MD Gov. He's like Obama part 2 - no real record, very young and attractive, has a real post, and has charisma. He's the blank slate the Dems would love to run b/c he is so left wing...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (exHjb)

211 This is how it always goes in a one-party state, but it compounds mightily when there's a weak ruler. When the King is a 'tard, the courtiers go nuts.

Well, our courtiers are going nuts.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:42 PM (t0OGg)

I don't think it's "nobody," but I can believe it's not just one person. Jill has some say, I'm sure, and then there's the usual suspects: Susan Rice (did she leave recently?), Valjar (I don't know if she ever leaves the Obama compound though), possibly even that hag, Newland, but I don't think she has that much power. Maybe someone or someones in the Cabinet. They recently elevated the CIA director to Cabinet status.

Yeah, I don't know. I just think there's most likely a small group, and they should be outed.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (dGCAG)

212 It's a factional war. There are competing cabals and they all have their own influence networks, intelligence networks, journalists, generals, agency heads, etc. They shift. There is some overlap. They continuously jockey for position and to eke out small improvements and expansions. Nothing is aligned or coordinated. Nobody is in control.

This is how it always goes in a one-party state, but it compounds mightily when there's a weak ruler. When the King is a 'tard, the courtiers go nuts.

Well, our courtiers are going nuts.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:42 PM (t0OGg)

It's been like this for decades. Possibly even centuries.

Our elected idiots are the public faces. The real power is behind the scenes. The people beyond the scenes want (demand) that the "elected officials" all be of loose morals, low intelligence, and easily cowed in to submission.

Which is how we get to where we are today.

Frankly, in retrospect, it kind of seems like the inevitable outcome of our system of government.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (mj0Qp)

213 207 My dream scenario is that VP Harris, in a fit of pique by being told by the First Lady to shut up and sit in the back of the bus, announces at one of her required presences to the Senate that Biden is incompetent by reason of dementia and she is being blocked from 25A proceedings by DOCTOR Jill.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 03:45 PM (xhaym)

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That's be hilarious, true.

*fingers crossed*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (LvTSG)

214 @TheInsiderPaper 25m
BREAKING: The French ambassador and other diplomats are "being held hostage" at the embassy in Niger, Macron says
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2023 03:31 PM (IG4Id)

Ok, lemme see if I can do this right...

Oh no!

Anyway...
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:38 PM (dGCAG)

There was a Frenchy in Niger
Who smiled as he rode on at Tiger.....

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (NtVYv)

215 Millions flowing into shell companies don't warrant a look, but your $600 transaction will have the IRS probing you like a Mexican alien.

Posted by: InZona at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (0Z4mb)

216 Do you think Biden ran a foreign extortion racket?

Yes.

Do you think Biden is too old and lacks the faculties to be President?

Yes.

Do you think Biden has failed in his administration?

Yes.

Who are you voting for?

Biden.

Are you fucking retarded?

I'm not sure what you mean.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (HyOJf)

217 Don't the French have helicopters?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:33 PM (t0OGg)

I think the problem is that the Niger Army has Stingers.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (xhaym)

218 This is true about Joe Biden's family and associates, but there is no public evidence to date that the president personally received any money.
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This is a time when rolling my eyes isn't enough.

It would be nice to make a slamming door sound with them.

Because they had so much to trade on without Joe, right imbeciles for hire?!?!?

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (krQz2)

219 "Yet, he still feels the compulsion to brag about past accomplishments, even really stupid ones. Then there are the outlandish lies and embellishments of events he was not even involved in."

He really believes it's an effective way to 'connect' with his audience. And why wouldn't he? They always clap for it, even the ones who know he's full of it.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (MvF+J)

220 Every Biden but Joe gets money. When do people stop pointing out that he hasn't gotten direct money and start realizing how damning it is that he's alone in that? Do they all hate him?

Posted by: Ben Sears at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (Qpf3u)

221 Then there are the outlandish lies and embellishments of events he was not even involved in. Having the honor of being the"president" of the United States just doesn't seem like it satisfies him very much.

This is how people behave when they know they've got a position they didn't earn, and shouldn't have. See also, Kamala Harris and Jumanji Brown.

IOW, it's Imposter Syndrome, except they know they really ARE imposters.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (I/Qkd)

222 216 Who are you voting for?

Biden.

Are you fucking retarded?

I'm not sure what you mean.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (HyOJf)

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"Biden is a good man who wants to save me from student loans. Besides, Republicans hate the gays."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (LvTSG)

223 What incentive do public polling firms have to be accurate right now? Are they graded on how accurate they are 14 months out from an election?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

Polling is a ScienceTM, and it's a part of the Scientists' Code to always seek the truth.

Or something.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (fKIdX)

224 I think the problem is that the Niger Army has Stingers.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (xhaym)
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That's soft g, right?

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2023 03:48 PM (krQz2)

225 I don't see the likes of Mad Maxine often, but politicians like her just ooze stupidity.

Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2023 03:48 PM (fwDg9)

226 190 182 This. By the end of October, that little prick Ignatius and all the rest will fall dutifully behind Biden.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:36 PM (iFTx/)

I'll give it to January 2024. Then ALL the dem apparatus will fall into line.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 15, 2023 03:41 PM (BdMk6)

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There will be a small assortment of voices that last until the convention.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:42 PM (LvTSG)
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Yes, and even some after that. Biden is hated and always was. My comments above aren't meant to suggest he's liked or popular. He is still the easily-manipulated, stupid, shameless whore he always was. But the system loves easily-manipulated, shameless whores.

His entire career is built on it. He survived by surviving. He was master of corruption in the shithole-tiny, meaningless state of DE. Well, meaningless to all except that's where many companies and banks are located. So he was their whore, and whored well, so the corporate interests kept sending him back to the Senate.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 15, 2023 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

227 What incentive do public polling firms have to be accurate right now? Are they graded on how accurate they are 14 months out from an election?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

Their job is to shape opinion, not report on it. Up to and including elections.

Which, even if we assume they are all above board and fair, it's hard to get dramatically wrong. The week or two before the election, the polling companies close the gaps, and even if they're off by a few percentages, they say "well, close enough. There was a last minute shift towards the incumbent!"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:48 PM (mj0Qp)

228 I feel slimy just reading this crap.

Or maybe it's the sushi.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 15, 2023 03:48 PM (NK5f7)

229 Yeah, I don't know. I just think there's most likely a small group, and they should be outed.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (dGCAG)
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It's definitely a small group. Probably a dozen or fewer people. I sincerely doubt Jill is one of them. Within that group there probably only 3-5 cabals.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:48 PM (t0OGg)

230 I don't see the likes of Mad Maxine often

Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2023 03:48 PM (fwDg9)
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Really?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2023 03:50 PM (YqDXo)

231 Hey!I invented the modified limited hangout.
Bravo 👌

Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at September 15, 2023 03:50 PM (l8eK7)

232 Joe: "Say Jill, where are the keys to my car? I want to take a drive."

Jill: "Now, Joey, we've been over this..."

Joe: "Dammit, Jill where are the keys?"

Jill: "Here joey, have some ice cream, and take this vitamin pill"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 15, 2023 03:50 PM (bJHK5)

233 Joe who?

Posted by: Leggy blonde in leather boots at September 15, 2023 03:50 PM (NBVIP)

234 Are you fucking retarded?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (HyOJf)
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Who I fuck and who I don't fuck is none of your goddamn business!!

Posted by: Jack Baker at September 15, 2023 03:50 PM (krQz2)

235 220 Every Biden but Joe gets money. When do people stop pointing out that he hasn't gotten direct money and start realizing how damning it is that he's alone in that? Do they all hate him?
Posted by: Ben Sears at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (Qpf3u)

lol.

Well, honestly, in another context, Biden is just committing some minor tax fraud, really.

He's giving his family their inheritance before he dies. All he asks is that his family pay for whatever part of his lifestyle isn't covered by the taxpayers. He's thoughtful like that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:50 PM (mj0Qp)

236 227 Which, even if we assume they are all above board and fair, it's hard to get dramatically wrong. The week or two before the election, the polling companies close the gaps, and even if they're off by a few percentages, they say "well, close enough. There was a last minute shift towards the incumbent!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:48 PM (mj0Qp)

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The "the electorate starts paying attention in September" is not only a sign that all polls before September should be ignored, but that polling firms know that they're not accurate even if they're trying.

It's become a cover for why they can't get it right while getting money from institutions like media conglomerates to push narratives that their paymasters desire.

Throw in the fact that a 50/50 call is good enough for most unthinking people, they're trying to make up for Philly counting ballots for weeks after the election, and they just need to be better than the next guy, and you've got a recipe for a shit of an industry.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

237 re 199: i guess she's okay but i'd bet she's hiding some tattoos.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (B1FKF)

238 This is how people behave when they know they've got a position they didn't earn, and shouldn't have. See also, Kamala Harris and Jumanji Brown.

IOW, it's Imposter Syndrome, except they know they really ARE imposters.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (I/Qkd)
_________________

This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (YqDXo)

239 Biden's replacemrnt must be Gay, Transgender, Trigender, anti-gun, pro abortion after birth up to a year, destroy the military, raise taxes, engage 5 more BS Wars in African Shitholes, female, male, animal, veggie, mineral, hates MAGA Republicans, Government only has guns, Lenin now replaces G.Wwashington, Washihington DC is renamed Obamavillage, etc........

Any suggestion whom it might be ???

Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (R+nZe)

240 ... Our elected idiots are the public faces. The real power is behind the scenes. ...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (mj0Qp)
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Yes, always true. But the boss is often the boss nonetheless. He keeps the cats herded and can achievement motion in the direction he wants. There are two counter-examples where he cannot:
1. He's an enemy like Trump. Then the cabals break out and just refuse to do what they're told, and start scheming on how to best elevate themselves while thwarting their orders.
2. He's incompetent like Biden. Then the cabals break out and go insane with scheming to build their empires and take over.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (t0OGg)

241 They could throw this bum out tomorrow and it would still be too late. The damage has been done.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (V8he0)

242
Listen, fat, I take my marching orders from the Historic Triple First mophead in the WH press office!

I am a stronk, smart, and independent urinalist!
*phone buzzes* Excuse, me that's some very important info coming to me via Twitter ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (xG4kz)

243 223 What incentive do public polling firms have to be accurate right now? Are they graded on how accurate they are 14 months out from an election?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

Polling is a ScienceTM, and it's a part of the Scientists' Code to always seek the truth.

Or something.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 15, 2023 03:47 PM (fKIdX)

____________________

Or something.

A poll company always service a purpose. They don't just throw out numbers without a goal in mind. This poll suggests that Biden is still a viable candidate, which suggests that whomever paid for it is in camp Biden. That's important, because I want to see a flat out civil war in the Dem party. If the numbers showed Trump beating Biden handily, it would be the other camp paying for it IMO. So, Biden hasn't quit just yet. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Orson at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (dIske)

244 239 Biden's replacemrnt must be Gay, Transgender, Trigender, anti-gun, pro abortion after birth up to a year, destroy the military, raise taxes, engage 5 more BS Wars in African Shitholes, female, male, animal, veggie, mineral, hates MAGA Republicans, Government only has guns, Lenin now replaces G.Wwashington, Washihington DC is renamed Obamavillage, etc........

Any suggestion whom it might be ???
Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (R+nZe)

I said above - Wes Moore.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 15, 2023 03:52 PM (exHjb)

245 As to the question "who's in charge?"

Depends on which sector of FedGov we're talking about. Intelligence, military, judicial, energy, transportation, etc.

It is certainly NOT the sitting cabinet member(s).

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 15, 2023 03:52 PM (Q4IgG)

246 Democrats don't care because Joe didn't do it.
And they're going to put Trump in prison the rest of his life for whatever.

Posted by: torabora at September 15, 2023 03:52 PM (l8eK7)

247 Seems to me an email from Hunter to his daughter stating that he has been forced to give Joe half his income for decades is pretty strong piece of evidence that Joe was getting paid.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:52 PM (ZLI7S)

248 Joe Concha posted that Biden's schedule today was a Presidential briefing shortly before noon, and then to leave on a weekend getaway to Rehoboth Beach.

At this point, briefing Joe is just a formality.

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2023 03:53 PM (krQz2)

249 247 Seems to me an email from Hunter to his daughter stating that he has been forced to give Joe half his income for decades is pretty strong piece of evidence that Joe was getting paid.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:52 PM (ZLI7S)

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And it's been out there since before the 2020 election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 03:53 PM (LvTSG)

250 Yeah, I don't know. I just think there's most likely a small group, and they should be outed.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2023 03:46 PM (dGCAG)

I doubt there's a single person / small group of people pulling the strings. No one is this schizophrenic.

I can completely see a scenario where dozens of rich and powerful people with thousands of people working for them are all using their power / money / influence to get what they want from the government.

Sometimes that aligns across all of the major players, but usually it doesn't. Which is why our government does a lot of things that don't really make sense on surface level, but when you dig deeper you realize it's multiple factions all dipping their beaks at once.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:53 PM (mj0Qp)

251 Insider cabals are always small and factional. It’s not like they meet in townhalls.

Posted by: 13times at September 15, 2023 03:53 PM (VZPAA)

252 ENTER BIG MIKE TO SAVE US ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Franklin Styein at September 15, 2023 03:54 PM (EnsGU)

253 maxine waters is an idiot. a few years ago when she was head of some finance type committee in the house of reps, she asked a bunch of bank ceos how much they had done in student loans in the past ten years, the first three said none and jamie diamon said 'none, the fed gov't took that over ten years ago.'

someone remind me if i have this wrong.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (B1FKF)
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You are correct.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2023 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

254 Surfs up dude at Rehobeth Beach...........

She's real fine my 409....

Wish they all could be fat ass slob Cafornica Transgender males !!! Delaware gets all the sunshine and Big Mike's Ass is so tan in a French Bikini.......

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2023 03:56 PM (EnsGU)

255 ENTER BIG MIKE TO SAVE US ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here come Big Mike
I kinda' owe him some beans
Well, he must be crazy
Guess that's why he's so mean!
If I tell him I'm a-leavin'
He would sure enough split my gut
Because I sold to a sucker
And I owe Big Mike a cut

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 15, 2023 03:56 PM (krQz2)

256 I think you may be right. It's similar to the Warring States Period in ancient China.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 15, 2023 03:45 PM (I/Qkd)

The Warring States Period ended in the Song dynasty which almost managed an industrial revolution . . . and itself collapsed in debt under the flail of the Mongols.
The major advances in technology were based in the Song dynasty, for a number of reasons, most of which were a weak decentralized state and strong property rights.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 03:57 PM (xhaym)

257 1. He's an enemy like Trump. Then the cabals break out and just refuse to do what they're told, and start scheming on how to best elevate themselves while thwarting their orders.
2. He's incompetent like Biden. Then the cabals break out and go insane with scheming to build their empires and take over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:51 PM (t0OGg)

I'll put an asterisks next to Trump because I do think he was not part of the plan, and he did fuck with their money. But they ended up beating him at the end of the day, and, frankly, they did it fairly easily.

But every other president I can think of, at least in the modern era, is of the "incompetent and/or easy to control" variety.

You don't get to be president of the united states without being bought and paid for ten times over.

It's like the old stories about the NYPD -- early in a rookies career, he goes on a bust with some senior cops, there is cash on the table, the senior cops take their cut, and if the rookie so much as hesitates, he's never to be trusted and will never get anywhere in the police department.

If he takes the money, they know they own him.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:57 PM (mj0Qp)

258 CNN, MSNBC, and AP are in a death-match to reach the bottom. Circling the drain. Life-support. Make that "Lie Support". Lie with Democrats, wake up with liars. "Do my lies make me look fat?"

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2023 03:57 PM (rj6Yv)

259 Joe Concha posted that Biden's schedule today was a Presidential briefing shortly before noon, and then to leave on a weekend getaway to Rehoboth Beach.

At this point, briefing Joe is just a formality.
Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2023 03:53 PM (krQz2)
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I think they meant changing his briefs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2023 03:57 PM (YqDXo)

260 FFS, no evidence?

Media and the Left lie to win the daily news cycle, but here the lies will catch up to them.

Comer & Co have the bank records on Hunter's laptop to show that Joe and Dr Jill took out more money from commingled accounts than they put in. But if they release it, Media will scream that it's inadmissable because of chain of custody issues. It could have been fabricated, you see.

But this isn't a court with bent judges and prosecutors.
Comer & Co are demanding to get these records from the Bidens, who have a dillema. If they comply, it will confirm that Joe got bribes, likely in the many millions. If they don't, the court of public opinion will find them guilty when Comer & Co relase the records after the Bidens were given the chance to refute.

Set up like a bowling pin.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2023 03:58 PM (K6vwr)

261 245 As to the question "who's in charge?"

Depends on which sector of FedGov we're talking about. Intelligence, military, judicial, energy, transportation, etc.

It is certainly NOT the sitting cabinet member(s).

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 15, 2023 03:52 PM (Q4IgG)

++++

Well we know for a fact it was the Easter bunny one day on the White House lawn.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 15, 2023 03:58 PM (XeHMZ)

262 I still think they will install Kamalama as the nominee, who will then pick Gov Greaseball as VP, and hire a food taster.
The WH chef and food taster will suffer a paddleboard accident, Kammie will choke on a chicken bone, Prez Gorgeous Gavin will appoint Witchmer as VP, and all we be well as High Speed Rail will be built from Topeka to Kansas City.

Posted by: wth at September 15, 2023 03:58 PM (v0R5T)

263 As I've posted before, no one is in charge. The bureaucracies are all executing what they think they're supposed to be doing, but being government bureaucrats, many of whom were selected for the color of their skin or some other characteristic, they are generally not that competent and not that hard-working. So very little is actually getting accomplished, and none of it is coordinated. A lot of it moves in the same general direction because they're leftists, but it mostly just sits there and sucks up resources.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 15, 2023 03:58 PM (7B5FA)

264 I doubt there's a single person / small group of people pulling the strings. No one is this schizophrenic.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:53 PM (mj0Qp)

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If you want to account for the ability to stay in the shadows while still being able to shape policy, law enforcement, judicial decisions, political decisions and cultural directions....you only need look at a hijacked alphabet agency. Discretion is implied. I don't buy the elite rich guy approach either...too many chances for leaks and disgruntled actions. Intelligence agencies OTOH are created for such acts...they just aren't supposed to be doing it to us.

Posted by: Orson at September 15, 2023 03:59 PM (dIske)

265 Maybe Mr Vanhousen will petition the court for the names of the jurors...errr...those with evidence for impeachment?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 15, 2023 03:59 PM (uSHSS)

266 "If he takes the money, they know they own him."

That's why you have to make your bones by killing someone to become a made man in the Mafia.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2023 04:00 PM (K6vwr)

267 255 ENTER BIG MIKE

Hilarious. And JFK Jr. rides in on white stallion gilt in gold.

Posted by: 13times at September 15, 2023 04:00 PM (60lHz)

268 Seems to me an email from Hunter to his daughter stating that he has been forced to give Joe half his income for decades is pretty strong piece of evidence that Joe was getting paid.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 03:52 PM (ZLI7S)
.......

It's not evidence evidence.

Posted by: Whooptie at September 15, 2023 04:01 PM (v0R5T)

269 I doubt there's a single person / small group of people pulling the strings. No one is this schizophrenic.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 03:53 PM (mj0Qp)

Only their accountants know for sure.

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2023 04:01 PM (rj6Yv)

270 speculative article at American Thinker (don't know if it was in morning roundup) positing that DR Jill is being seen more and more doing presidentin' stuff, so "they" may be trying to slip her into position to run in 2024.

The Biden family knows that when this trip is over it's time for all of them to pay up. I could see the uniparty setting up the family to take the fall for the lot of it, regards DC corruption.

Still think that the Bidens are going to try and ride this out. They still think their blackmail file is bigger than everyone elses.

Posted by: KJP is a race and gender swapped Side Show Bob at September 15, 2023 04:01 PM (QpUKb)

271 If you want to account for the ability to stay in the shadows while still being able to shape policy, law enforcement, judicial decisions, political decisions and cultural directions....you only need look at a hijacked alphabet agency. Discretion is implied. I don't buy the elite rich guy approach either...too many chances for leaks and disgruntled actions. Intelligence agencies OTOH are created for such acts...they just aren't supposed to be doing it to us.
Posted by: Orson at September 15, 2023 03:59 PM (dIske)

Yes, the alphabet agencies are certainly part of the deep state, and I have no doubt the higher ups in those are getting very wealthy as well.

But I do not think that they are at the top of the pyramid of corruption.

That said, who knows? Maybe.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 04:01 PM (mj0Qp)

272 Joe Concha posted that Biden's schedule today was a Presidential briefing shortly before noon, and then to leave on a weekend getaway to Rehoboth Beach.

At this point, briefing Joe is just a formality.
Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2023 03:53 PM (krQz2)
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I think they meant changing his briefs.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2023 03:57 PM (YqDXo)
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So, briefing is like pantsing?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 15, 2023 04:02 PM (ScR16)

273 We were just about to Rehoboth Beach, when the meth started to kick in....

Posted by: President Doh--You Know My Name! at September 15, 2023 04:03 PM (krQz2)

274 Yea but, Trump FART's in public and then blames it on the dog !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Franklin Stein at September 15, 2023 04:03 PM (EnsGU)

275 A strongly-worded inquiry FTW!

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 15, 2023 04:03 PM (dqcIy)

276 That's why you have to make your bones by killing someone to become a made man in the Mafia.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2023 04:00 PM (K6vwr)

yeah, I've said before, I think the best, easiest to understand analogy is that our government is composed of what are essentially dozens of powerful mafia families and hundreds or thousands of lesser criminal organizations.

Lots of moving pieces, no real "big boss," just an entire class of people living off the wealth created by the masses.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 04:03 PM (mj0Qp)

277 Was a article that each Czar trys to gain as much command over their department and grow its oversight

Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2023 04:04 PM (fwDg9)

278 It won't be Dr. Jill.

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2023 04:04 PM (rj6Yv)

279 It won't be Dr. Jill.
Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2023 04:04 PM (rj6Yv)

There was an article recently asking if Robert Kennedy Jr goes third party from being shut out of the Dem's primary, would that destroy the Democrat Party, or would it destroy the Democrats and the Republicans both?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 04:06 PM (xhaym)

280 Still think that the Bidens are going to try and ride this out. They still think their blackmail file is bigger than everyone elses.
Posted by: KJP is a race and gender swapped Side Show Bob at September 15, 2023 04:01 PM (QpUKb)
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Considering what we already know about politicians' personal lives and finances, I don't know that "blackmail" is even an operative term anymore. Seriously. What do they think will happen when their dirt is revealed? Nothing's happened so far...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 15, 2023 04:07 PM (YIVH2)

281 Facts First: Joe Biden has not been convicted, to date, of receiving each of those 20 million dollars.

Posted by: CNN at September 15, 2023 04:08 PM (CaJIi)

282 There was an article recently asking if Robert Kennedy Jr goes third party from being shut out of the Dem's primary, would that destroy the Democrat Party, or would it destroy the Democrats and the Republicans both?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 04:06 PM (xhaym)
++++
Sounds like a win/win scenario.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 04:08 PM (t0OGg)

283 There was an article recently asking if Robert Kennedy Jr goes third party from being shut out of the Dem's primary, would that destroy the Democrat Party, or would it destroy the Democrats and the Republicans both?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 15, 2023 04:06 PM (xhaym)

I think RFK Jr. could be a big disruptor.

Or he might flame out.

Hard to say.

But I wouldn't be against voting for him.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 04:09 PM (mj0Qp)

284 This leggy blonde in leather boots doesn't think some "impeachment inquiry" or corruption allegation will have anything to do with the end of Biden - whenever or however it eventually happens:
https://is.gd/3JfjHv
Posted by: Joe Mannix

That photo was taken aboard my yacht.

Well, it's a pontoon boat, but a double wide.

Just like my house.

Posted by: Miklos lives large at September 15, 2023 04:10 PM (ktq+V)

285 We are willowed aren't we?

Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2023 04:10 PM (fwDg9)

286 Of course Joe has shell companies. He spends a lot of time on the beach where he finds them.

Posted by: wth at September 15, 2023 04:10 PM (v0R5T)

287 @260 follow-up
Joe thought he covered his tracks well and he mostly did. This wouldn't be happening but for the revelations on Hunter's laptop. But Joe being Joe had to brag about getting the Ukranian prosecutor fired. Heh.

Must be a lot of fun between Stepmother-of-the-Year Doctor Jill and Hunter right now. I see a fentanyl overdose in Hunter's future.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2023 04:10 PM (K6vwr)

288 283 I think RFK Jr. could be a big disruptor.

Or he might flame out.

Hard to say.

But I wouldn't be against voting for him.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 04:09 PM (mj0Qp)

========

So many third party runs that have ultimately garnered no larger than 2-3% of the vote.

The best bet for a third party vote was 2016, and the Libertarian Party intentionally flamed out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 04:10 PM (LvTSG)

289

this is a hit job on Old Joe.

It struck me as such watching the Republicans, who somehow have found all this shit out.

Didnt do that prior to his election.

The old bastard has outlived his usefulness.

Watch Big Gretch take her big ass and run. They're prepping for it.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at September 15, 2023 04:11 PM (UCNv1)

290 Joe's Shells and Driftwood.

Posted by: wth at September 15, 2023 04:11 PM (v0R5T)

291 https://is.gd/3JfjHv
Exposed thigh and leather drive me wild.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2023 04:12 PM (K6vwr)

292 If the Dems want to roll the wheelbarrow load of blame and dump it on the Bidens, no Biden is untouched. That means no Jill for anything, not even as deputy assistant director of entertainment in the Department of Education. Joe will have to be replaced with someone who is: rock-solid dependable, known by the public, and has a lock on the Dem base, because there just isn't enough time to find someone else. And who can that person possibly be?

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2023 04:13 PM (rj6Yv)

293 If Joe hadn't been installed in the White House would he now be comfortably resting in a nursing home?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 15, 2023 04:13 PM (gGCIA)

294 It struck me as such watching the Republicans, who somehow have found all this shit out.

Didnt do that prior to his election.

The old bastard has outlived his usefulness.

Watch Big Gretch take her big ass and run. They're prepping for it.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at September 15, 2023 04:11 PM (UCNv1)

Literally everything we know now was known prior to the 2020 election when the contents of Hunter's laptop leaked.

The laptop was out there for god knows how long before the NY Post did their story.

And the media, elected R's, everyone else, sat on this for 4+ years.

Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 04:13 PM (mj0Qp)

295 Considering what we already know about politicians' personal lives and finances, I don't know that "blackmail" is even an operative term anymore. Seriously. What do they think will happen when their dirt is revealed? Nothing's happened so far...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 15, 2023 04:07 PM (YIVH2)

You've got it backwards. Either what is out there on the Bidens is going to sink them or it won't. If wouldn't sink them, why would they bother to step aside? If it still could sink them, then at the last possible moment, they spill the beans on everyone else they know who has done the same kind of thing and then only once the precedent is set that you actually go down for that kind of thing and you have proof that their blackmail was valuable.

Since there's still a chance that the Bidens go down, the Bidens still have the card to play of "we can drag everyone else down with us."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 15, 2023 04:13 PM (fKIdX)

296 This hast to be the biggest and best case for impeachment America has ever seen.

DC will respond with an acquittal.

Just watch.

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2023 04:13 PM (krQz2)

297
Flew in to Rehoboth Beach, U.S.M.C.
Didn't get my meds last night
On the way, the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight

[Chorus]
I'm back in the warm sun again
You don't know how lucky I am, friend
Back in the warm sun again

Been away so long, I never know my name
Gee, it's good to be back home
Leave it 'till later on to count my haul
Honey, disconnect the phone

[Chorus]
I'm back in the warm sun again
You don't know how lucky I am, friend
Back in the warm sun
Back in the warm sun
Back in the warm sun again

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 15, 2023 04:13 PM (xG4kz)

298 NOOD

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at September 15, 2023 04:14 PM (OUMaO)

299 Joe will have to be replaced with someone who is: rock-solid dependable, known by the public, and has a lock on the Dem base, because there just isn't enough time to find someone else. And who can that person possibly be?
Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2023 04:13 PM (rj6Yv)

Why? The D's can run whoever they want, the media will make sure they become a household name and that everyone knows that person is the greatest candidate ever.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 04:14 PM (mj0Qp)

300 Apropos of nothing, Arthur Schwartz was an old NY drinking buddy of mine. Been about a decade - I should give him a call.

Posted by: Aaron Rodger's surgeon at September 15, 2023 04:14 PM (cChkm)

301 Was a article that each Czar trys to gain as much command over their department and grow its oversight
Posted by: Skip at September 15, 2023 04:04 PM (fwDg9)

One of the interesting bits I remember from Ian Kershaw's The End, which is about the last year of Nazi Germany, is that the various Nazi bigwigs, even the ones who were perfectly clear-eyed that Germany was f*cked and their demise was only a matter of time, were still trying to enlarge their bureaucratic fiefdoms, and block their rivals from gaining control of new departments being set up, even as their cities were being bombed into rubble.

Bizarre.

Posted by: spindrift at September 15, 2023 04:14 PM (EGPRf)

302 Exposed thigh and leather drive me wild.

Come on over here, big boy!

Posted by: Lizzo at September 15, 2023 04:14 PM (V8he0)

303 294 And the media, elected R's, everyone else, sat on this for 4+ years.

Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 15, 2023 04:13 PM (mj0Qp)

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So, they're totally serious about it now, or it's a great way to gin up interest in that donation button in the emails they send out.

Which way are we betting?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 15, 2023 04:14 PM (LvTSG)

304 The Junta's best move is to push Joe out soon. Tell him he can keep the bribe money.

Which opens up the D primaries. RFK Jr can catch fire.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 15, 2023 04:14 PM (K6vwr)

305 This leggy blonde in leather boots doesn't think some "impeachment inquiry" or corruption allegation will have anything to do with the end of Biden - whenever or however it eventually happens:
https://is.gd/3JfjHv
Posted by: Joe Mannix
.......

Tell me she didn't just fart.

Posted by: wth at September 15, 2023 04:14 PM (v0R5T)

306 What do they think will happen when their dirt is revealed? Nothing's happened so far...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 15, 2023 04:07 PM (YIVH2)

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Yeah, imagine if some politician got caught with crack in hotel having anal sex with two guys with blood, semen and fecal stained sheets!

He might be barely defeated in the next election!

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2023 04:15 PM (krQz2)

307 willowed again

Posted by: Lizzo at September 15, 2023 04:15 PM (V8he0)

308 This leggy blonde in leather boots doesn't think some "impeachment inquiry" or corruption allegation will have anything to do with the end of Biden - whenever or however it eventually happens:
https://is.gd/3JfjHv
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)

She looks expensive.

*checks wallet*

I've got $25 and an expired coupon for a Wendys Crispy Chicken Sandwich.

Posted by: spindrift at September 15, 2023 04:17 PM (EGPRf)

309 I've had two ideas for screenplays in the last 18 months. One is unrealistic. It would require an artist to direct to it, and those aren't available in Current Year.

The other would be easy. It has it all. And it's a true story. Gangsters, armies, set piece battles, the largest cash heist in the history of man, a rise to glory and a fall into disgrace... everything except sex, which I'm sure I could tastefully put into the story. Somehow. And maybe not so tastefully, if I'm being honest about how I think.

Almost anyone could direct this thing and have a blockbuster... Michael Bay could do it... and all the writers are on strike.

Maybe I should get to work. I have literally no idea how to write a screenplay, but if these monkeys can do it, I bet I can.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2023 04:19 PM (0FoWg)

310 "Facts First: This is true about Joe Biden's family and associates, but there is no pubic evidence to date that the president personally received money."

LOL and OMG, they really think we're stupid. Do they really, truly believe his corruption would come with a "Pay to the Order of Joe Biden for Corruption" on the check line?

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 15, 2023 04:24 PM (mupln)

311 Joke thinks he's Kevlar but the first big leak out of the inquiry he gets out. The pardons are written and it all goes away

Posted by: Ben Had at September 15, 2023 04:30 PM (j+MAy)

312 I wonder who the CIA will put into office next.

I am anxious for the player to be named later to actually be named.
Posted by: Just Lily at September 15, 2023 03:18 PM (jN7f+)

There was one case where the player to be named later was the same player. Dude got traded for himself.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 15, 2023 04:32 PM (eoQWY)

313 >>And it's been out there since before the 2020 election.

And the only people to date paying attention to it has been us.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2023 04:34 PM (ZLI7S)

314 One of the interesting bits I remember from Ian Kershaw's The End, which is about the last year of Nazi Germany, is that the various Nazi bigwigs, even the ones who were perfectly clear-eyed that Germany was f*cked and their demise was only a matter of time, were still trying to enlarge their bureaucratic fiefdoms, and block their rivals from gaining control of new departments being set up, even as their cities were being bombed into rubble.

Bizarre.
Posted by: spindrift at September 15, 2023 04:14 PM (EGPRf)

Same thing near the end of the Western Empire. One guy, a prince of a German tribe settled in the area around Geneva got to the Military leader position and had a puppet emperor. When a brother or his father died he decided that helping his independent tribe there was better than "ruling" what was left of Rome which was just Italy and went home.

After a few changes another German, Odoacer toppled a successor as military leader and just decided that the emperor wasn't worth it. Since he was just a kid he pensioned him off to a castle in S. Italy and set the emperor's robe off to Constantinople saying it wasn't needed

Posted by: Oldcat at September 15, 2023 04:40 PM (eoQWY)

315 So “someone” is suddenly allowing these investigations to forward. This is the squirrel. What is it supposed to keep our attention from?

Posted by: db (lowercase since 2008) at September 15, 2023 05:00 PM (wu87C)

316 The Ignatius column means they know Trump will win.

Posted by: Jake Speed at September 15, 2023 05:03 PM (Vu1jV)

317 "Facts First: This is true about Joe Biden's family and associates, but there is no public evidence to date that the president personally received money."
_______

And there is no direct evidence that Adolph Hitler ever killed anyone personally.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 15, 2023 05:17 PM (lf83v)

318 Without any further information, it is impossible to determine whether Barak Hussein Obama was, in fact, smoking crack.

Posted by: BurtTC at

Just the act of observation would make it impossible to determine the position of the two men.

Posted by: Werner Heisenberg at September 15, 2023 05:34 PM (DsA2n)

319 All the “no evidence” didn’t seem to stop the press going all in on Trump Russia collusion.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 15, 2023 05:35 PM (ruZVu)

320 Quit your Dawdling Democrats and lets Hop Hop Hop

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at September 16, 2023 01:19 AM (FLiOE)

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