Monday Overnight Open Thread (9/18/23)

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The Quotes of The Day

Quote I
We need to see unemployment rise - unemployment has to jump 40, 50% in my view. We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around. There's been a systematic change where employees feel the employer is extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around. So, it's a dynamic that needs to change. We've got to kill that attitude and that has to come through hurting the economy. Billionaire Tim Gurner

Former disgraced FBI agent Peter Strozk opens his pie hole to pie ho Nicole Wallace.

Quote II
"It’s really something more for the automakers are going to make more electric vehicles that employs many fewer workers. In some ways, UAW seems to be looking to get a big payout now figuring they’re going to lose a lot of jobs anyway. They talk about creating another jobs' bank where laid-off workers to be paid even if they are not working. That is not viable. What these guys are asking for is more than the doubling of the labor costs at a UAW plant. Peter Morici

The UAW has been pushed into a corner. A drive train mechanic on the line in Flint, MI is not going to be working overseas in an EV factory. They are swinging going down fighting. And on this occasion I support the UAW.

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***SNORT*** The Headline certainly cracked me up.

Danish artist who submitted empty frames as artwork told to repay funding
Jens Haaning must return about 532,000 krone loaned by Kunsten Museum in Aalborg, court says

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Hmmmm...... Which one of you Morons is missing a cute little piggeh?

Police find pig wandering loose on Bacon Creek Road

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I understand why he said it. However, IMHO as a former official the game is not about us. It's about the game.Video

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Why does it take so long to book an appointment with your doctor?

Recently I faced consoling a patient of mine who couldn’t understand why I was unable to “hop on the phone” to discuss her new back pain. When she finally got an appointment with me weeks later, I decided to be honest. I shared that I had 1,300 patients who call me their primary doctor. After I’m done seeing patients at 5 PM, I tend to 50 to 100 messages and notifications. I take three to four hours of work home with me every night.
I didn’t share these stats to elicit sympathy, but soon our roles had reversed. My patient overflowed with apologies and demanded to know who was doing this to me.
This is the paradox that defines modern American medicine: Doctors are working harder and longer, all while patients can access us less. As a practicing internal medicine physician and oncologist, I believe we reached this unsustainable state due to fundamentally misaligned division of labor – between human and machine, between doctors and support staff, and between what is paid for and what good medical care requires.

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I ~~don't think~~ know that the Ruling Elites will never let us see this as long as they have their way, Serfs.

If the last time you flew first class was before 2010, you may not recognize it today.
That's thanks to a trend in which airlines have focused their investments on pricier cabins and rewarding high spenders over frequent or long-distance flyers, says Eric Rosen, director of travel content at The Points Guy.
Many of these upgrades have come a long way from the days when smoking was permitted on board, seatback entertainment was a futuristic dream, and passengers couldn't board without a paper boarding ticket. According to Rosen, the changes are also motivated by airlines that are in fierce competition with another to capture the burgeoning market of premier-class travellers.
This trend toward high-end amenities has resulted in more lavish options that truly up the game in high-altitude travel, so TravelPerk looked at some of the many innovations set to take off in luxury air travel.

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Well this certainly sucks.

The parking garage of a hospital collapsed on Wednesday in Jacksonville, Florida, trapping over 100 cars belonging to hospital staff and patients. Nobody was hurt in the partial collapse, but car owners were told their vehicles will stay in the parking garage pending a full investigation by engineers, according to WJXT. Just when that’s going to happen is unclear, however, and the unlucky owners are now being told their cars are indefinitely stuck.

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Sure. We all misplace and/or lose things. One would think there would be some type of location beacon in a multi-million dollar airplane. Just thinkin' outloud.

The Marine Corps lost an F-35B Lightning II fighter jet following a training “mishap” on Sunday. Military personnel are asking for help locating the F-35 jet after the pilot ejected himself from the F-35 and parachuted safely to the ground around 2 p.m. near Charleston, South Carolina.
The pilot was taken to a local hospital and is in stable condition, Joint Base Charleston reported in a Facebook post, saying the mishap involved “an F-35B Lightning II jet from Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron (VMFAT) 501 with the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing.” Joint Base Charleston is working with the Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort to locate the F-35, focusing on the Northern area of the base surrounding Lake Moultrie and Lake Marion, Jeremy Huggins, a spokesperson at Joint Base Charleston told NBC News.

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The ONT Musical Interlude & Inflation Emporium

On this day: 18 Sep 1970
Jimi Hendrix was pronounced dead on arrival at St. Mary Abbot's Hospital in London at the age of 27 after choking on his own vomit. Hendrix left the message 'I need help bad man', on his managers answer phone earlier that night. Rumors and conspiracy theories grew up around Hendrix’s death. Eric Burdon claimed Jimi had committed suicide, but that’s contradicted by reports that he was in a good frame of mind. In 2009, a former Animals roadie published a book claiming that Jimi’s manager had admitted to him that he arranged the murder of Hendrix, since the guitarist wanted out of his contract. via thisdayinmusic.com

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Born on this day: 18 Sep 1952
Dee Dee Ramone (Douglas Colvin), bassist, Ramones, 1977 UK No.22 single 'Sheena Is A Punk Rocker'). He died of a drug overdose 5th June 2002. Dee Dee is buried at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery in Hollywood, California, not far from the cenotaph of his former Ramones' bandmate, Johnny Ramone. via thisdayinmusic.com

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Mr. Potato Head is a sharp shooter. Genius Award Winner becomes Posthumous Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WREG) – One of the owners of a North Memphis restaurant says she was forced to shoot a naked intruder who threatened her and her family members inside the business late Monday night.
The woman, who did want to be identified by name, said the man was dressed only in sneakers when he showed up at Mr. Potato Head — while the restaurant was closed — asking for water. He entered after pushing his way inside, shutting the self-locking doors behind him.

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 10:00 PM

Comments

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1 Here's my ONT contribution:

Thanks to a certain "Perfessor" who runs the Sunday book thread, I misheard the lyrics to the song "Duke of Earl" as (you guessed it) "Duke of Squirrel".

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 18, 2023 10:01 PM (qPw5n)

2 Yay!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 18, 2023 10:01 PM (y3tCt)

3 A woman's guess is much more accurate than a man's certainty.
Rudyard Kipling

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at September 18, 2023 10:01 PM (hOUT3)

4 Does anybody really know what time it is?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:01 PM (bQKgA)

5 Thank you for the ONT, MIS HUM!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 18, 2023 10:02 PM (evrRm)

6 Does anybody really know what time it is?
Posted by: Cicero

I don't care about that.

Good evening everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 18, 2023 10:02 PM (qoGsy)

7 Hey Horde.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 18, 2023 10:03 PM (Sgq8y)

8 I saw that Not The Bee kinda of defended that Tim Gurner guy. Ugh.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 18, 2023 10:04 PM (mOkB5)

9 The UAW has been pushed into a corner. A drive train mechanic on the line in Flint, MI is not going to be working overseas in an EV factory. They are swinging going down fighting. And on this occasion I support the UAW.

Well, MisHum, I wonder why they're pushing for this? We know the leadership doesn't really give a damn about the workers. As dues generators, yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised if someday the leadership sells out the members.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 10:04 PM (Angsy)

10 The Mr. Potato Head restaurant sounds like a money-laundering operation for the Biden Family International Crime Syndicate.

That mean it will never be audited, investigated or inspected.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:05 PM (bQKgA)

11 I wouldn't be surprised if someday the leadership sells out the members.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 10:04 PM (Angsy)

Come on man, what self-respecting Union Leader would sell out the workers?

Oh wait...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at September 18, 2023 10:05 PM (hOUT3)

12 7 Hey Horde.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 18, 2023 10:03 PM (Sgq8y)

Hello young lady

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Frozen Tundra at September 18, 2023 10:06 PM (aA3+G)

13 Tim Gurner sounds like one of the Lords of 14th century England, upset that the peasants were starting to get uppity.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 10:06 PM (S6gqv)

14 Russell Brand is getting the full Red Pill Rinse treatment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:06 PM (bQKgA)

15 Police find pig wandering loose on Bacon Creek Road
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Uh oh...

Posted by: wandering pig reading road signs at September 18, 2023 10:07 PM (aBJcM)

16 Interesting pic up top. Who knows what's buried under that barn.

Maybe polyni....uh, nevermind I guess.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 10:07 PM (Angsy)

17 Well, that's one way to get out of your contract...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:07 PM (MeG8a)

18 Not that anyone here besides me cares, but the Cardinals' Adam Wainwright just got his 200th career win, becoming one of only five active MLB pitchers with that distinction (and in his final season, too). Go Cards.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:08 PM (m9hmt)

19 At the supermarket, (WI, ask JJS) we had a number of guys who signed up and stated the only reason they were there, and stayed put when the GM Plant shut down, was because their wives had good jobs and they were simply putting in time to collect their pensions.
They were universally worthless.
The last one finally rid us of his presence a year ago and nobody misses his arrogant ass.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:08 PM (43xH1)

20 After reading all the headlines in the last few weeks, I have just one thing to say: I Wanna Go Back!

https://youtu.be/o0JqC2UDpoE

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at September 18, 2023 10:08 PM (mNmNo)

21 DDS, good to see you. How are you?

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 18, 2023 10:08 PM (aBJcM)

22 Hmmmm...... Which one of you Morons is missing a cute little piggeh?

Police find pig wandering loose on Bacon Creek Road

Lost? Sound like the piggie's in the right place to me.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 10:08 PM (Angsy)

23 My guesses are far more accurate than the leftists "science".

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 10:09 PM (S6gqv)

24 Monday Evening.

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnically Badthink Jokes Critic . . . at September 18, 2023 10:09 PM (4Winp)

25 I will also state the people most relieved to be rid of the GM Union carryovers were the Black employees as the GM Union Dems were the worst racists I've ever experienced.
The worst.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:09 PM (43xH1)

26 Thanks for the girthy ONT, Mis Hum!

Cabin up top may be drafty but the location is primo! Cute tune behind the photo.

Tim Gurner is an insufferable dick, in my opinion of course.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at September 18, 2023 10:10 PM (FjQ48)

27 The Russell Brand story is interesting. He was married to a celebrity, he is an admitted sex addict if his own books are to be believed.
And he decided to get clean and sober.
And that was just too much...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:10 PM (MeG8a)

28 Police find pig wandering loose on Bacon Creek Road

Lost? Sound like the piggie's in the right place to me.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

I'm thinking that little piggie is going to wish he had paid attention in reading class very soon!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at September 18, 2023 10:10 PM (hOUT3)

29 The F-35 certainly had an IFF (identification, friend or foe} system installed and operational. Standard mil procedure except in some stealthy overseas cases. Nearby air traffic control/military installations would have "seen" the IFF on their radars, I think. They found the crashed bird some miles away from the ejection site. Or I'm wrong.

Thanks for the ONT, Mis Hum!

Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:10 PM (TSQkU)

30 Police find pig wandering loose on Bacon Creek Road

Isn't that just down from Pork Chop Hill?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2023 10:10 PM (uSHSS)

31 Boy, that Mystery Click sure owes a lot to Bo Diddley.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:10 PM (7x1j9)

32 So the UAW, an organization that has succeeded in pricing the labor it "represents" out of the job market, is striking against organizations that likewise are eager to commit suicide by making products its customers roundly reject, and the more customers reject them, the more those products are made.

A plague on both your houses.

Don't worry, it is still much easier to blame free trade than to place responsibility for what goes on in manufacturing on where it belongs. But Americans have a long history of shooting themselves in the foot and then blaming everyone else for the act.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:11 PM (DCsOE)

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Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:10 PM (TSQkU)

Thanks for sharing some of your knowledge from your days of service in the friendly state of ND

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Frozen Tundra at September 18, 2023 10:12 PM (aA3+G)

34 I worked for a company for many years that was unionized. It was a teamster shop, and I despise the teamsters, unions, collective bargaining, and the entire attitude.

But I agree with MisHum...I hope the UAW destroys the Big Three.

It will be a pyrrhic victory, but that's okay. We need strife in this country that actually comes to a head before we can even contemplate clawing ourselves back from the brink.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2023 10:12 PM (lQONO)

35 The F-35 certainly had an IFF (identification, friend or foe} system installed and operational. Standard mil procedure except in some stealthy overseas cases. Nearby air traffic control/military installations would have "seen" the IFF on their radars, I think. They found the crashed bird some miles away from the ejection site. Or I'm wrong.

Thanks for the ONT, Mis Hum!
Posted by: LRob in Ok'

Do these new birds disintegrate?

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:12 PM (43xH1)

36 If the last time you flew first class was before 2010, you may not recognize it today.

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Here's a Fun Fact. First class on most two-aisle planes is becoming a thing of the past. Now you've got Economy, Premium Economy and Business Class.

Single aisle planes on mainly domestic routes still have First Class and Economy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:12 PM (bQKgA)

37 Parents Appalled After Biological Male Crowned Homecoming Queen at Missouri High School

https://tinyurl.com/5yvkxtcm

Kansas City keepin' it classy.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:12 PM (MM9nI)

38 UAW realized too late they're being put out to pasture at the behest of FedGov and their EV's.

The "Big 3" will all be bankrupt in the next 3-5 years.

Make way for "Federal Electric Motors." Your only source for personal transportation provided you meet their minimal requirements. *

*You wont meet them

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 18, 2023 10:13 PM (Q4IgG)

39 >> That is not viable. What these guys are asking for is more than the doubling of the labor costs at a UAW plant.

The morning rant inferred conflict among dems. Now this implies the UAW is not on board...

What if the UAW is trying to help destroy the domestic auto industry? What if they are part of the op, *and* cashing in. If they get their way we will all be driving Chinese EV personal tracking devices in no time.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 10:13 PM (d5suT)

40 friendly state of ND

and cool, too!

Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:13 PM (TSQkU)

41 18 Not that anyone here besides me cares, but the Cardinals' Adam Wainwright just got his 200th career win, becoming one of only five active MLB pitchers with that distinction (and in his final season, too). Go Cards.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:08 PM (m9hmt)

Baseball is dead.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:13 PM (DCsOE)

42 Except single-class airlines like Southwest.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:13 PM (bQKgA)

43 Since I will never set foot on any airplane, can't say I care about the luxurious seating on some.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:13 PM (MM9nI)

44 Parents Appalled After Biological Male Crowned Homecoming Queen at Missouri High School

https://tinyurl.com/5yvkxtcm

Kansas City keepin' it classy.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:12 PM (MM9nI)

I told you guys, nothin' but faggots there!

Posted by: Taggert at September 18, 2023 10:14 PM (m9hmt)

45 I wouldn't be surprised if someday the leadership sells out the members.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 10:04 PM (Angsy)

Someday?

How about every single day?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2023 10:14 PM (lQONO)

46 Do these new birds disintegrate?

That depends on lotsa factors, like airspeed, direction of strike into the ground, how much beer the pilot drank that morning, etc.

Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:14 PM (TSQkU)

47 But I agree with MisHum...I hope the UAW destroys the Big Three.

It will be a pyrrhic victory, but that's okay. We need strife in this country that actually comes to a head before we can even contemplate clawing ourselves back from the brink.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2023 10:12 PM (lQONO)

This is the very definition of a "I hope they both lose!" situation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:14 PM (7x1j9)

48 42 Except single-class airlines like Southwest.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

The bus service of the air!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at September 18, 2023 10:15 PM (hOUT3)

49 I'm thinking that little piggie is going to wish he had paid attention in reading class very soon!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at September 18, 2023 10:10 PM (hOUT3)

Don't look at me! I tried to teach him.

Posted by: Charlotte at September 18, 2023 10:15 PM (Angsy)

50 Parents Appalled After Biological Male Crowned Homecoming Queen at Missouri High School
Posted by: SMH at what's coming

It makes sense to me.....

Posted by: mikeski fields the short chopper at September 18, 2023 10:15 PM (DgGvY)

51 We've got to kill that attitude and that has to come through hurting the economy. Billionaire Tim Gurner

He seems nice.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 18, 2023 10:15 PM (vHIgi)

52 Except single-class airlines like Southwest.
Posted by: Cicero

And no-class airlines like Spirit.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 18, 2023 10:15 PM (kjOVp)

53 Police find pig wandering loose on Bacon Creek Road
Isn't that just down from Pork Chop Hill?
Posted by: Diogenes'

Obligatory:

https://tinyurl.com/bp667y8e

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:15 PM (43xH1)

54 The UAW has been pushed into a corner. A drive train mechanic on the line in Flint, MI is not going to be working overseas in an EV factory. They are swinging going down fighting. And on this occasion I support the UAW.

Decrepit Joe is for the union.

Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 10:15 PM (5fDan)

55 Hey Horde.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 18, 2023 10:03 PM (Sgq8y)
* * * *
Great to see you here!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at September 18, 2023 10:16 PM (FjQ48)

56 Baseball is dead.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:13 PM (DCsOE)

You keep talking, and all I hear is blah blah blah....

Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:16 PM (m9hmt)

57 Since I will never set foot on any airplane, can't say I care about the luxurious seating on some.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:13 PM (MM9nI)

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It beats hitchhiking. Unless you're flying Spirit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:16 PM (bQKgA)

58 So they found the F-35.
I guess these milk cartons are going to become collector's items.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2023 10:16 PM (uSHSS)

59 That was a nice bowl of voodoo chile, MisHum. But now, I have heart burn....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 10:16 PM (Angsy)

60 That depends on lotsa factors, like airspeed, direction of strike into the ground, how much beer the pilot drank that morning, etc.
Posted by: LRob in Ok'

Checks out.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:16 PM (43xH1)

61 Spirit is the Wal-Mart of the sky.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:16 PM (bQKgA)

62 Baseball is dead.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Nonsense. That's just how my Red Sox smell.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 18, 2023 10:17 PM (kjOVp)

63 How come one of the ads is a dude with flames coming out of his butt?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 10:17 PM (S6gqv)

64 Thanks for sharing some of your knowledge from your days of service in the friendly state of ND
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Frozen Tundra

People live in ND? I thought it was a sort of demilitarized zone between us and Canada.

"Fargo" was filmed in Brainerd, MN. Why not film it in Fargo if Fargo is real?

Posted by: mikeski at September 18, 2023 10:18 PM (DgGvY)

65 How come one of the ads is a dude with flames coming out of his butt?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 10:17 PM (S6gqv)

Carbon credits?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:18 PM (7x1j9)

66
I told you guys, nothin' but faggots there!
Posted by: Taggert'

They better be Kansas City Faggots, or there will be trouble! Trouble, I tell you!

Posted by: Slim Pickens' Ghost at September 18, 2023 10:18 PM (43xH1)

67 That article about premier class flying is utter bullshit.

I fly a fair amount, and I am lucky enough often to fly business class.

Sometimes it is quite nice, but oftentimes it is simply a wider seat with more legroom, and nothing more.

Sure, there are a few routes that can attract the $15,000 ticket purchaser, but most of it is not as elegant as the airlines pretend.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2023 10:18 PM (lQONO)

68 How come one of the ads is a dude with flames coming out of his butt?
Posted by: Tom Servo

Don't settle for Preparation G.

Posted by: mikeski at September 18, 2023 10:18 PM (DgGvY)

69 How come one of the ads is a dude with flames coming out of his butt?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 10:17 PM (S6gqv)

It's a long story.

Posted by: Don Lemon at September 18, 2023 10:18 PM (m9hmt)

70 What few people want to acknowledge is how many countries outsource manufacturing to this country. Even fewer want to acknowledge that unions find it impossible to organize in such places. Why? Because people there simply are not interested.

I suspect that, among other things, they've seen what happened to the Rust Belt. Take Youngstown, OH. Does it HAVE to be in the state it is in? No. Other companies like Toyota or Volkswagen or Hyundai could have set up shop there. But I'd be willing to bet that those companies were not willing to put up with union BS, so they stayed away.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:19 PM (DCsOE)

71 Parents Appalled After Biological Male Crowned Homecoming Queen at Missouri High School
Posted by: SMH at what's coming

Isn't the Homecoming Queen usually elected by the students?

Posted by: davidt at September 18, 2023 10:19 PM (SYTee)

72 Unless you're flying Spirit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:16 PM (bQKgA)

I flew them once.

I tossed my return ticket and booked a flight on another airline.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2023 10:19 PM (lQONO)

73 It beats hitchhiking. Unless you're flying Spirit.
Posted by: Cicero
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I'll stick with driving, thanks.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:19 PM (MM9nI)

74 Evening Horde, thx MisHum. Seems to me that the UAW is yelling at the CEO's of the car companies for the wrong reason. The are yelling about the bosses big salaries , when they should be yelling about the bosses being in bed with the Biden administration on their insane ev push. The ev push will end the UAW and autoworkers in general.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 18, 2023 10:20 PM (mCz8T)

75 People live in ND? I thought it was a sort of demilitarized zone between us and Canada.

"Fargo" was filmed in Brainerd, MN. Why not film it in Fargo if Fargo is real?
Posted by: mikeski at September 18, 2023 10:18 PM (DgGvY)

Everybody knows North Dakota isn't real.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:20 PM (m9hmt)

76 Woke Inc can suck it, but I can't in good faith support the UAW either since they're essentially engaging in exactly the same sort of manufacturing extortion that they've engaged in my whole life. But I wish them well in storming the castle, and were I a religious man I'd be praying to the war gods that the casualties be numerous and evenly distributed.

Posted by: CppThis at September 18, 2023 10:20 PM (PZvjL)

77 >It will be a pyrrhic victory, but that's okay....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

what will it take for the automakers to bail on EVs? They must know that the US private fleet can NOT run on electricity

and at the same time, the ruling junta seems to be hellbent on strangling coal oil and gas

Posted by: DB - much ballyhooed at September 18, 2023 10:20 PM (geLO8)

78 We need to see unemployment rise - unemployment has to jump 40, 50% in my view. We need to see pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around. There's been a systematic change where employees feel the employer is extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around. So, it's a dynamic that needs to change. We've got to kill that attitude and that has to come through hurting the economy. Billionaire Tim Gurner

When the communists come for Gurner, I will have no fucks to give.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (aD39U)

79 I don't know about Spirit... but my last flight was to Vegas several years ago for daughter's wedding. We flew Frontier. It sucked donkey balls, bigly. Horrible conditions. Uncivilized, really.

I'd rather carpool.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (Q4IgG)

80 I wouldn't be surprised if someday the leadership sells out the members.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 10:04 PM (Angsy)

Someday?

How about every single day?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

It's a union's MO.
Screw the business until it can't support anyone.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (evrRm)

81 Isn't the Homecoming Queen usually elected by the students?
Posted by: davidt
___

Newsflash:

The kids are brainwashed.

Granted, there's a few who's fighting the good fight, but for the most part, they're brainwashed.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (MM9nI)

82 Now that the Senate has no dress code, it would be cool if a bunch of Senators showed up in togas.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (2tUFv)

83 Back in "the day" when Grand Forks was all up with bombers and missiles, along with Minot, ND was certainly a militarized zone. And the locals sure seemed to appreciate our presence there, unlike in CA.

Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (TSQkU)

84 I'll stick with driving, thanks.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:19 PM (MM9nI)

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Soon you'll be able to get to Asia on a train, or so I heard from Crime Boss Joe.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (bQKgA)

85 People live in ND? I thought it was a sort of demilitarized zone between us and Canada.
"Fargo" was filmed in Brainerd, MN. Why not film it in Fargo if Fargo is real?
Posted by: mikeski'

In my earthquake task going on, there was an epicenter in Iskenderun which Turkey/Turkiye didn't report as it's a major Navy center in the Med. Hit hard. Fun fact: while I work on this turns out 'Iskenderun' is best known as a location in 'Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade', and no part of the filming was done in Isky; it was done in France and Spain. They just used the city name. a Google search will bring up a first result of, 'Is Iskenderun a real place?'

Posted by: Slim Pickens' Ghost at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (43xH1)

86 Now that the Senate has no dress code, it would be cool if a bunch of Senators showed up in togas.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (2tUFv)

And with knives.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (lQONO)

87 It beats hitchhiking. Unless you're flying Spirit.
Posted by: Cicero

The only thing worse than flying Spirit, is being delayed while flying Spirit due to a "mechanical issue" with your plane.

Posted by: mikeski would like to upgrade to First Class duct tape at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (DgGvY)

88 >>As a practicing internal medicine physician and oncologist, I believe we reached this unsustainable state due to fundamentally misaligned division of labor –

I will read this later as I don't have time now, but briefly, the clinic I go to in Japan is a wonder of efficiency. One doctor. maybe a dozen nurses. Patients show up (no appointment during clinic hours. Nurses figure out what tests, send you to little rooms where other nurses perform tests and get results. Dr. sees you and you looks at tests, maybe orders more tests, recycle until diagnosed.

Pharmacy - across street - sends over nurse with meds (pay for meds) pay for Dr. (you would be amazed at how cheap it is.) get next appointment if needed. Leave.

The couple times I went there were a few dozen people waiting, all in and out in a couple hours (most of time waiting for tests) so he probably has more than a couple thousand people who see him as PCP difference is no paperwork at all. As vertical as possible (I imagine MRI or other things he sends you to hospital which operates on same system only bigger and more sophisticated tests available.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (d5suT)

89 DDS, good to see you. I hope all is well with you.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (y3tCt)

90 We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around.

This is the whole basis of business support for massive immigration.

Cheap, compliant, labor.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (2tUFv)

91 F35 crash was likely a software issue. It's just my opinion, and I can't prove it.
But, why else would a pilot eject from an aircraft that was functioning according to expectations.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:23 PM (MeG8a)

92 74 Seems to me that the UAW is yelling at the CEO's of the car companies for the wrong reason. The are yelling about the bosses big salaries , when they should be yelling about the bosses being in bed with the Biden administration on their insane ev push.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 18, 2023 10:20 PM (mCz8T)

American unions are too stupid to see past their singular obsession with battling Management for spoils of war to consider the bigger picture like that.

Posted by: CppThis at September 18, 2023 10:23 PM (PZvjL)

93
Everybody knows North Dakota isn't real.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:20 PM (m9hmt)

I had a freezer full of ND walleye and northern pike. Oh its real.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Frozen Tundra at September 18, 2023 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

94 Speaking of the UAW, don't they own a chunk of what used to be Chrysler? My memory says so, but maybe not any longer? They could be striking against themselves!

Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:23 PM (TSQkU)

95 74 Evening Horde, thx MisHum. Seems to me that the UAW is yelling at the CEO's of the car companies for the wrong reason. The are yelling about the bosses big salaries , when they should be yelling about the bosses being in bed with the Biden administration on their insane ev push. The ev push will end the UAW and autoworkers in general.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 18, 2023 10:20 PM (mCz8T)

This, and this is why I cannot support either side.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:23 PM (DCsOE)

96 Soon you'll be able to get to Asia on a train, or so I heard from Crime Boss Joe.
Posted by: Cicero
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I have no reason to go to Asia.

If it's not in driving distance, it's not worth going to, as far as I'm concerned.

Regardless of what Brandon says.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:24 PM (MM9nI)

97 Now that the Senate has no dress code, it would be cool if a bunch of Senators showed up in togas.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

If only to get them to reinstate a partial dress code: laurel wreaths are only for the Minority and Majority Leaders.

Posted by: mikeski laces up his sandals at September 18, 2023 10:24 PM (DgGvY)

98 Doctor overwork is certainly a problem

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 18, 2023 10:24 PM (vHIgi)

99 The British show "time team" had a show featuring the recovery of a Spitfire that had been lost in France for 50 years. It had come down after its pilot was shot, but it hit in a boggy area on the edge of a small lake and burrowed 10 feet deep into mud. Pilots remains were still in the cockpit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 10:24 PM (S6gqv)

100 Things "gender surgeons" cannot do;

Reduce size of hands & feet
Change hip structures
Change collarbones & ribs
Change arm bones & angles
Change thighbones & angle to hips
Create a cervix, uterus, fallopian tubes, ovaries
Wire a male brain to naturally think female

Posted by: kbdabear at September 18, 2023 10:24 PM (IEw/x)

101 We flew Frontier. It sucked donkey balls, bigly. Horrible conditions. Uncivilized, really.

I'd rather carpool.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Frontier used to be my favorite airline. Back in the day they'd serve warm chocolate chip cookies.

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 18, 2023 10:24 PM (aBJcM)

102 Isn't the Homecoming Queen usually elected by the students?
Posted by: davidt
___

Newsflash:

The kids are brainwashed.

Granted, there's a few who's fighting the good fight, but for the most part, they're brainwashed.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (MM9nI)
***

This.
You can bet the tea hers encouraged and supported this oh so wonderful expression of inclusiveness and diversity.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2023 10:25 PM (uSHSS)

103 Now that the Senate has no dress code, it would be cool if a bunch of Senators showed up in togas.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (2tUFv)

And with knives.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (lQONO)

"Oh no! The lights seem to have shorted out mysteriously..."

Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:25 PM (m9hmt)

104 Sure, there are a few routes that can attract the $15,000 ticket purchaser, but most of it is not as elegant as the airlines pretend.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2023 10:18 PM (lQONO)

Airlines need competition for the trans-ocean routes. I'd like to see a big revival of ocean liners, but not behemoths like Titanic or the Cunarders. Maybe 350-footers, built for speed, with gas turbine generators powering electric motors on the prop shafts. Make them fast enough that a 3-day crossing of the Atlantic is practical. A few first-class staterooms, but mostly tiny cabins, but each with a full bathroom. Having a clean and comfortable, and private, place to shit would be a huge bonus over the airlines' sad offerings.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:25 PM (7x1j9)

105 83 Back in "the day" when Grand Forks was all up with bombers and missiles, along with Minot, ND was certainly a militarized zone. And the locals sure seemed to appreciate our presence there, unlike in CA.
Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (TSQkU)

I want to go to ND because, among other things, I have been told there is a pretty girl behind every tree in Minot.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:25 PM (DCsOE)

106 Quick update on my bug bite.

I was bit by bug biking 48+ hours ago. It swelled up bad but seemed to have stopped swelling. Still very big, and numb, slightly sore. I thought it was bear fly, but now I think gray box morons were right and it was murder hornet.

Thanks to those who helped. I don't know why a hornet would bite me though.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 10:26 PM (d5suT)

107 101 We flew Frontier. It sucked donkey balls, bigly. Horrible conditions. Uncivilized, really.

I'd rather carpool.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Frontier used to be my favorite airline. Back in the day they'd serve warm chocolate chip cookies.
Posted by: screaming in digital at September 18, 2023 10:24 PM (aBJcM)

Frontier sucked. Avoid.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM (DCsOE)

108 Everybody knows North Dakota isn't real.
Posted by: Dr. T
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I'm skeptical about Montana. I mean, have you ever actually *met* anyone from 'Montana'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, sporting three holes at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM (D9jtQ)

109 Maybe Biden could mimic Caligula and appoint John Kerry to The Senate.

Posted by: davidt at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM (SYTee)

110 it was murder hornet.

Maybe just the achy sore arm hornet. Evidence: You're still here!

Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM (TSQkU)

111 I will also state the people most relieved to be rid of the GM Union carryovers were the Black employees as the GM Union Dems were the worst racists I've ever experienced.
The worst.

Posted by: LenNeal

====

As a young engineer, I remember asking why there were so few minority bargaining committee members or skilled trades. Oooh, that was the wrong thing to ask.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM (8AONa)

112 I want to go to ND because, among other things, I have been told there is a pretty girl behind every tree in Minot.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Her name is Mindy.

Posted by: mikeski has done this joke before at September 18, 2023 10:28 PM (DgGvY)

113 American unions are too stupid to see past their singular obsession with battling Management for spoils of war to consider the bigger picture like that.
Posted by: CppThis

The entire American Left, really. If you read comments at DU or Ars Technica they all support the unions, but only because they still live in 1975 in their arguments. They don't see that this is a Left on Far Left battle, with the management being the Far Left in the equation. They will never, ever be able to see the management as in bed with the Globalist Eco-communists.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 18, 2023 10:28 PM (kjOVp)

114 101 Frontier used to be my favorite airline. Back in the day they'd serve warm chocolate chip cookies.
Posted by: screaming in digital at September 18, 2023 10:24 PM (aBJcM)

I flew them a fair few times in the 2000s, it was good times. Sad to hear that they mighty have fallen so far, but I'm not surprised given that they repositioned themselves as an ultra-low cost carrier.

Posted by: CppThis at September 18, 2023 10:28 PM (PZvjL)

115 I think the problem that we've had is that people decided they didn't really want to work so much anymore

But...no one wants to work. Or at least the vast majority do not.

Yes, Tom Brady likes working. But the people doing normal jobs mostly do not.

So why do people work? To make money do they can do the things they want to.

The government screwed this connection up by giving free money to people. So of course if you give people the choice of getting free money or working they are mostly going to choose the former.

Just stop giving people free money and this problem solves itself. Especially of course if you send the illegals home since then salaries will go up anyway...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 10:28 PM (XqcwY)

116 Soon you'll be able to get to Asia on a train, or so I heard from Crime Boss Joe.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (bQKgA)

A bridge across Bering Strait would be possible, but no doubt very costly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (7x1j9)

117 Having a clean and comfortable, and private, place to shit would be a huge bonus over the airlines' sad offerings.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

You have also just stated the biggest negative for even Class A RVs.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (qoGsy)

118 For shits and grins, I priced a trip to Athens out of Denver for three weeks in Nov on AA. The Economy Class Main Cabin was around $3K, the Economy Plus was $2K and the Business/First Class was $5600.

Posted by: Johnny Lanctot at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (EtRph)

119 Et tu, Mittens?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (bQKgA)

120 Maybe Biden could mimic Caligula and appoint John Kerry to The Senate.
Posted by: davidt

Go to a neutral corner, that was a low blow.

Posted by: the ref at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (DgGvY)

121 108 Everybody knows North Dakota isn't real.
Posted by: Dr. T
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I'm skeptical about Montana. I mean, have you ever actually *met* anyone from 'Montana'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, sporting three holes at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM (D9jtQ)

Several dental floss tycoons.

Posted by: Zombie Frank Zappa at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (aA3+G)

122 Funny story at Twitchy. Seems that Chicago residents (and NY) are begging their politicians to sue the Biden administration to do something about the illegals. One of the districts in Chicago that is complaining voted 96%for Biden. As the sainted Obama said "elections have consequences". Schmucks

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (mCz8T)

123 I'm skeptical about Montana. I mean, have you ever actually *met* anyone from 'Montana'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, sporting three holes at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM (D9jtQ)

Heh. I know quite a few fine people in Montana.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:30 PM (7x1j9)

124 What if the UAW is trying to help destroy the domestic auto industry?

There's a difference between union officials and union membership. My dad was a member of the UAW, in a company that wasn't auto industry. Union officials are self serving, don't care about fairness to individuals, and will break their own rules if it suits them. They're really not much different from management.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2023 10:31 PM (0Htd1)

125 On the Poison Heart clip by the Ramones it's CJ playing bass, Dee Dee had already left the band. Dee Dee wrote the song and traded it to the Ramones in exchange for them bailing Dee Dee out of jail. On all the Ramones albums after Dee Dee left, there are at least three Dee Dee songs. He was a prolific, successful songwriter, for sure.

Posted by: Ramones 4 Ever at September 18, 2023 10:31 PM (83IzV)

126 In fact, I would love to see Senators show up in, shall we say, unpredictable ways. It would amply demonstrate what a farce they have become.
Wear togas, speedos, bikinis, kilts, grass dresses hula style, a lovely pair of coconuts, what have you.
Anything worth doing is worth over doing, say I!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:31 PM (MeG8a)

127 56 Baseball is dead.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:13 PM (DCsOE)

You keep talking, and all I hear is blah blah blah....
Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:16 PM (m9hmt)

Well, I'm sorry, but first, the Astros get moved into the AL. Bad enough. Then the NL gets the designated hitter, which is antithetical to baseball. And now they are timing things?

Screw that. Hear blah blah blah all you want. I'm done. I'm out. Have been since 2012. I'm not happy about it but I can't take the BS anymore. You like it? Enjoy. You are free.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:31 PM (DCsOE)

128 I'm skeptical about Montana. I mean, have you ever actually *met* anyone from 'Montana'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Several dental floss tycoons.
Posted by: Zombie Frank Zappa

And St. Alphonso?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 18, 2023 10:31 PM (qoGsy)

129 Having a clean and comfortable, and private, place to shit would be a huge bonus over the airlines' sad offerings.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:25 PM (7x1j9)

I never leave home without visiting that little room. I have no desire to use public toilets. 1 if I must, 2 I wait.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 10:32 PM (Angsy)

130
Thanks to those who helped. I don't know why a hornet would bite me though.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

The murder hornet needs no excuse to sting white man.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 18, 2023 10:32 PM (evrRm)

131 F35 crash was likely a software issue. It's just my opinion, and I can't prove it.
But, why else would a pilot eject from an aircraft that was functioning according to expectations.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:23 PM (MeG8a)

Probably because it was functioning according to expectations.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2023 10:33 PM (uSHSS)

132 . I shared that I had 1,300 patients who call me their primary doctor.

Welcome to Obamacare.

Lower quality. More costs. But all those illegals and the FSA get everything for free.

If there was an opposition party they'd likely point this out.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 10:33 PM (XqcwY)

133 A bridge across Bering Strait would be possible, but no doubt very costly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (7x1j9)

And not even factoring what you would have to build to even reach the bridge.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:34 PM (DCsOE)

134 I'm skeptical about Montana. I mean, have you ever actually *met* anyone from 'Montana'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, sporting three holes at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM (D9jtQ)

*raises hand*

Not only that, but I was born in Butte.

It's Rhode Island that I have doubts about.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Neanderthal, Just Ruggedly Handsome at September 18, 2023 10:34 PM (T/Lqj)

135 Willowed earlier:

"An Ohio man wanted for the murder of a 77-year-old woman was shot by a man defending his family during a home invasion on Thursday, according to the Fayette County Sheriff’s Office.

Michael James Brooks II, of Columbus, Ohio, was hospitalized Friday for injuries sustained during the home invasion. When he is released from medical care, he will face charges for burglary, home invasion and theft by receiving in Georgia and murder charges in Ohio, police said.

Investigators said Brooks has an extensive criminal history. He is wanted in connection with the fatal stabbing of Emily Foster, which occurred on September 9, 2023, in Columbus, Ohio, and also for the carjacking of a red Ford F-150 truck in Kettering, Ohio, which was later found outside the burglarized home in Georgia."

My emphasis

Posted by: Mike Hammer, sporting three holes at September 18, 2023 10:34 PM (g59Yt)

136 132 . I shared that I had 1,300 patients who call me their primary doctor.

Welcome to Obamacare.

Lower quality. More costs. But all those illegals and the FSA get everything for free.

If there was an opposition party they'd likely point this out.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 10:33 PM (XqcwY)

Thats right. We had nothing to do with this shit.

Posted by: Malpractice Lawyers of America Stand United at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (aA3+G)

137 Well, I'm sorry, but first, the Astros get moved into the AL. Bad enough. Then the NL gets the designated hitter, which is antithetical to baseball. And now they are timing things?

Screw that. Hear blah blah blah all you want. I'm done. I'm out. Have been since 2012. I'm not happy about it but I can't take the BS anymore. You like it? Enjoy. You are free.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:31 PM (DCsOE)

Oh, I'm pissed at MLB for all the same reasons. But this isn't about that, it's about a really good guy who's been in the game 20 years and just hit a very rare benchmark. I'll go back to complaining about what's wrong with baseball tomorrow, but not tonight.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (m9hmt)

138 >> Just when that’s going to happen is unclear, however, and the unlucky owners are now being told their cars are indefinitely stuck.

I wonder if they have to keep paying at the daily rate?
Knowing a few hospital comptrollers, I am guessing yes.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (d5suT)

139 131 F35 crash was likely a software issue. It's just my opinion, and I can't prove it.
But, why else would a pilot eject from an aircraft that was functioning according to expectations.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:23 PM (MeG8a)

Maybe the software used the wrong pronouns

Posted by: kbdabear at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (IEw/x)

140 Baseball is dead.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

It's gone from the National pastime to number three and that isn't going to change anytime soon. It is still economically solid due in part to local media and game revenue. Ohtani is going sign the biggest contract in American sports.

Posted by: JmT at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (ucixH)

141 Evel Knievel was a native Montanan.

Posted by: DB - much ballyhooed at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (geLO8)

142 As Zelensky arrives in the United States, Ukraine just put Jack Posobiec on its semi-official "Myrovorets" kill list (people on the list who die are marked as "liquidated").

They put Elon Musk on the list briefly, before it occurred to them that that was probably a Bad Idea. Tulsi Gabbard is also on the list.

A couple of days ago, the American tranny who is an official Ukrainian military spokesman said (in English) that Ukraine intended to hunt down "Russian propagandists".

I have a keen idea - before we give any more money to Ukraine, we tell them that they have to stop targeting Americans.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (2tUFv)

143 *raises hand*

Not only that, but I was born in Butte.

It's Rhode Island that I have doubts about.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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*hmm, may have add Pug to my alien list*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 18, 2023 10:36 PM (g59Yt)

144 I wanted to live in Montana.

Posted by: Vasili Borodin at September 18, 2023 10:36 PM (bQKgA)

145 I'm skeptical about Montana. I mean, have you ever actually *met* anyone from 'Montana'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, sporting three holes at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM

Yes. She was kinda hawt, too.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 18, 2023 10:36 PM (aQy7p)

146 Do we even allow Rhode Islandists to become Morons? IF they exist?

Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:37 PM (TSQkU)

147 Re: US medical care.
I've gone to clinics in Serbia (which retains Yugoslavia-style 'care') and if you have a broken bone or a bullet hole, you go to a clinic. The 'doctors' are Nurse Practioners who poke and prod and say, "Yep! That's broke!"
Doctors are more surgeon types. Now, if you need cancer care and feel like staying alive for a few more years with that kind of degenerative disease, you are SOL. They will tell you to go home to your extended family and make yourself comfortable. Drugs are cheap and anyone can get opium. Go to Church and get an Ikon.
But the times I've had to go due to real physical injuries, I didn't get 'compassionate care' but I got taken care of, very efficiently and the bill last time was about USD$10. Lateral sprain on the left foot. No X-rays, no nothing, a fat, crabby lady in the middel of the night wrenched my foot around (which hurt like a motherfucker) and said, "Is fine. Take this. Go buy."

After that, I really don't much care for the Tikkun Olam Indian Hindu Buddhist Shit I get in USA now.

Broken bones and bullet holes.

Posted by: Slim Pickens' Ghost at September 18, 2023 10:37 PM (43xH1)

148 A bridge across Bering Strait would be possible, but no doubt very costly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (7x1j9)

It's roughly 500 miles as the crow flies from the Bering Strait to the closest existing segment of the North American road system.

Just saying.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:37 PM (m9hmt)

149 Frontier sucked. Avoid.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
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Well, yeah, I avoid them now. Haven't flown Frontier in ages, since they went bankrupt or got bought or whatever.

All airlines (plus airports and TSA goons) seem to be on a mission to make an experience that should be amazing into soul-sucking misery.

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 18, 2023 10:38 PM (aBJcM)

150 The early problems with the Boeing 737 Max were software issues.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:38 PM (MeG8a)

151 I have a keen idea - before we give any more money to Ukraine, we tell them that they have to stop targeting Americans.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (2tUFv)

We all have unobtainable dreams.

I now know one of yours.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Frozen Tundra at September 18, 2023 10:38 PM (aA3+G)

152 146 Do we even allow Rhode Islandists to become Morons? IF they exist?
Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:37 PM (TSQkU)

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I always thought people from Rhode Island were called Rhode Islandinos.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:38 PM (bQKgA)

153 @131: "Probably because it was functioning according to expectations."

Scott Adams speculated that they were testing an AI pilot and it ejected the human so it'd be in sole control. Gave me a good chuckle.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 18, 2023 10:38 PM (k1Qly)

154 Maybe just the achy sore arm hornet. Evidence: You're still here!
Posted by: LRob in Ok

so far.....

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 10:39 PM (d5suT)

155 I heartily concur with MisHum and CBD re UAW vs green auto execs and their EV scheme.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at September 18, 2023 10:39 PM (d9Cw3)

156 And with knives.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

*looks up*

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 18, 2023 10:39 PM (vHIgi)

157 150 The early problems with the Boeing 737 Max were software issues.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:38 PM (MeG8a)

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It was actually an airframe issue that was badly patched by a crappy software fix.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:40 PM (bQKgA)

158 As a young engineer, I remember asking why there were so few minority bargaining committee members or skilled trades. Oooh, that was the wrong thing to ask.
Posted by: 2009Refugee'

Worst racists I have EVER experienced.

Posted by: GM workers at September 18, 2023 10:40 PM (43xH1)

159 Mike Hammer, sporting three holes
* * * *
This was probably mentioned earlier but I missed it... why are you sporting three holes? Orthoscopic surgery?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at September 18, 2023 10:40 PM (FjQ48)

160 A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.

St. Antony the Great

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 18, 2023 10:41 PM (wAdQF)

161 All airlines (plus airports and TSA goons) seem to be on a mission to make an experience that should be amazing into soul-sucking misery.
Posted by: screaming in digital at September 18, 2023 10:38 PM (aBJcM)

Truth. And I have to fly at least once a month to and from The Swamp.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:41 PM (DCsOE)

162 I wonder if they have to keep paying at the daily rate?
Knowing a few hospital comptrollers, I am guessing yes.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (d5suT)

If I owned a car trapped in that garage, I would be talking to other car owners similarly afflicted about hiring some class-action lawyers.

Sue! Sue like the wind.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:41 PM (7x1j9)

163 Everything the government involves itself with gets more expensive and less consumer friendly.

Look at flying for example.

If you want to fix healthcare the absolute first step is getting the government out of paying for much of it.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 10:41 PM (XqcwY)

164 F35 crash was likely a software issue. It's just my opinion, and I can't prove it.
But, why else would a pilot eject from an aircraft that was functioning according to expectations.

Posted by: gourmand
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It was my decision. I didn't like the pilots attitude.

Posted by: AI at September 18, 2023 10:41 PM (q0Hle)

165 "It was actually an airframe issue that was badly patched by a crappy software fix."

I can't argue that at all. The result was the same.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:41 PM (MeG8a)

166 North Dakota. I thought this might be a place to go to before the fracking revolution.

Posted by: JmT at September 18, 2023 10:41 PM (ucixH)

167 A bridge across Bering Strait would be possible, but no doubt very costly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (7x1j9)

It's roughly 500 miles as the crow flies from the Bering Strait to the closest existing segment of the North American road system.

Just saying.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:37 PM (m9hmt)
***

So the Buc-Ees is gonna be lit!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2023 10:42 PM (uSHSS)

168 Wishing all you denizens of the ONT a glorious evening

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 10:42 PM (/LXPi)

169 It was my decision. I didn't like the pilots attitude.
Posted by: AI

"I can't do that Dave. . . "

Posted by: Tonypete at September 18, 2023 10:42 PM (SAX5G)

170 Oh, I'm pissed at MLB for all the same reasons. But this isn't about that, it's about a really good guy who's been in the game 20 years and just hit a very rare benchmark. I'll go back to complaining about what's wrong with baseball tomorrow, but not tonight.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (m9hmt)

Fair enough.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:42 PM (DCsOE)

171 @18: "Not that anyone here besides me cares ..."

Good for Waino. Almost makes me wish Pujols and Molina had stuck around for another year too. It's not like they woulda dragged down the team in the standings this year.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (k1Qly)

172 Good evening right back at you, Ben Had!

Posted by: LRob in Ok at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (TSQkU)

173 I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you fly the fighter jet anymore.

Posted by: HAL at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (SYTee)

174 Lower the main gear, Hal.

Posted by: Dave Bowman at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (bQKgA)

175 Another week without CRT as a top commentor.

If anyone comes across him in the boxes, let him know that he is missed but at least some of us hope he is being productive and living his best life.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (d5suT)

176 Of course UAW members are self serving too. But they are at least open about it. They will bargain for pay, benefits, and issues that are unsustainable to the company. They want their pay to go up even if it damages the company in the long term. The union officials are glorified politicians on the grift. They just pretend that they are looking out for the membership, in the same way that elected officials pretend that they are looking out for taxpayers.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (0Htd1)

177 Back atcha, Ben Had. : )

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (MM9nI)

178 Back in 2017 the F-35 was grounded due to problems with its oxygen supply system.

https://tinyurl.com/mv9udt6e

Maybe the pilot bailed out because the plane was trying to kill him.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (0zqNr)

179 It's roughly 500 miles as the crow flies from the Bering Strait to the closest existing segment of the North American road system.

Just saying.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:37 PM (m9hmt)

A few months work, at most.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (7x1j9)

180 Yo Ben Had.

SOON!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at September 18, 2023 10:44 PM (hOUT3)

181 Mike Hammer, sporting three holes
* * * *
This was probably mentioned earlier but I missed it... why are you sporting three holes? Orthoscopic surgery?
Posted by: Legally Sufficient
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Yes. Earlier discussion re hernia repairs. I should never, NEVER have used that nic on the ONT. The pervs that habituate this place might have pounced on it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 18, 2023 10:44 PM (q0Hle)

182 Yes. She was kinda hawt, too.

I knew a spectacularly beautiful woman from Glasgow, Montana.

Glasgow has a former SAC base, and Boeing sometimes uses the base for cold weather testing.

Brrrr...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:44 PM (2tUFv)

183 I flew them once. I tossed my return ticket and booked a flight on another airline.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo'

I got stranded in NYC due to Spirit cancelling a flight OUT of NYC on a WEEKDAY. I managed to get a refund on the outbound to ORD but then had to take the subway to JFK, buy an outbound to ORD on American, and then kill 9 hours between my canceled flight at LaGuardia and departure at JFK.
Which is how I ended up riding around on the NYC subway overnight Warriors-style.

Posted by: GM workers at September 18, 2023 10:45 PM (43xH1)

184 Evenin' Ben Had. Soon...

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 18, 2023 10:45 PM (aBJcM)

185 124 What if the UAW is trying to help destroy the domestic auto industry?

There's a difference between union officials and union membership. My dad was a member of the UAW, in a company that wasn't auto industry. Union officials are self serving, don't care about fairness to individuals, and will break their own rules if it suits them. They're really not much different from management.
Posted by: nerdygirl

The USW (Steel Industry union, whatever is left anyway) did the same thing. Dad worked in a mill in Sharon, PA for 25 years. It survived the culling in the 70s and 80s. Then the 90s came around with a new owner and a new deal with the union. It shut down in '95. The owner was a crook and the Union leadership pretty much looted everything and skipped town.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 18, 2023 10:45 PM (sAmhv)

186 168 Wishing all you denizens of the ONT a glorious evening
Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 10:42 PM (/LXPi)

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Well someone is in a mysteriously fine frame of mind!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 10:46 PM (bQKgA)

187 North Dakota. I thought this might be a place to go to before the fracking revolution.
Posted by: JmT at September 18, 2023 10:41 PM (ucixH)

Come January you'll be asking 'What the frack am I doing here?'

Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2023 10:46 PM (uSHSS)

188 I can't support the UAW because they supported the Democrats who are putting America out of business.

Posted by: setnaffa at September 18, 2023 10:46 PM (v4KVH)

189 You have also just stated the biggest negative for even Class A RVs.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (qoGsy)

The cure: at RV places I have been to, I just use their restrooms. Not ideal but you do what you must.

I likewise fight relentlessly to never, ever use a public restroom for #2.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:47 PM (DCsOE)

190 145 I'm skeptical about Montana. I mean, have you ever actually *met* anyone from 'Montana'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, sporting three holes at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM

Yes. She was kinda hawt, too.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Ah, you met her too!

I've been to Montana. Big Sky Country is an appropriate nickname. Beautiful state.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 18, 2023 10:47 PM (sAmhv)

191 Soon and I can't wait to give you all a hug. You bring me joy

Posted by: Ben Had at September 18, 2023 10:47 PM (/LXPi)

192 187 North Dakota. I thought this might be a place to go to before the fracking revolution.
Posted by: JmT at September 18, 2023 10:41 PM (ucixH)

Come January you'll be asking 'What the frack am I doing here?'
Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2023 10:46 PM (uSHSS)

Or screaming "Tip Up"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Frozen Tundra at September 18, 2023 10:47 PM (aA3+G)

193 >I have a keen idea - before we give any more money to Ukraine, we tell them that they have to stop targeting Americans.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:35 PM (2tUFv)

Why would they do that when the Biden regime and Zelensky regime goals re: those on the kill list are aligned?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 18, 2023 10:48 PM (mOkB5)

194 We all have unobtainable dreams.

I now know one of yours.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Frozen Tundra'

Mine is peace of mind at having done the Right Thing in hard situations, and a good night's sleep without nightmares!

Touchee

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:48 PM (43xH1)

195 It was actually an airframe issue that was badly patched by a crappy software fix.

The airframe issue was that Boeing didn't want to design a new aircraft that could accommodate the increased size of the new high-efficiency engines. So, they figured they could deal with the problem in software, rather than address the underlying airframe problem.

It's not the old Boeing.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:48 PM (2tUFv)

196 Why would they do that when the Biden regime and Zelensky regime goals re: those on the kill list are aligned?

Good point.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:49 PM (2tUFv)

197 Mike Hammer, sporting three holes
* * * *
This was probably mentioned earlier but I missed it... why are you sporting three holes? Orthoscopic surgery?
Posted by: Legally Sufficient

Yes. Earlier discussion re hernia repairs. I should never, NEVER have used that nic on the ONT. The pervs that habituate this place might have pounced on it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Three seems low. Most of us has five, just in our heads. Seven, if you count the two with balls in them.

Posted by: mikeski calibrates the phrasing meter at September 18, 2023 10:49 PM (DgGvY)

198 I suspect it isn't all that hard to build a bridge and connecting the road or rail systems between Russia and the US considering the state of modern technology.

The first issue is politics, the Junta dislikes Russia so it isn't happening while they dominate America.

The second issue is modern environmental law/union work. It takes decades to build roads in the US that in 1963 would take a couple of years.

The third issue is maintenance. When the road is covered in 6 ft of snow where are the people servicing it coming from? Are we...building a city there to maintain them?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 10:49 PM (XqcwY)

199 179 It's roughly 500 miles as the crow flies from the Bering Strait to the closest existing segment of the North American road system.

Just saying.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:37 PM (m9hmt)

A few months work, at most.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (7x1j9)

Yes, now check the other side. Also bear in mind building roads in the north with permafrost is a real PITA.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:50 PM (DCsOE)

200 You have also just stated the biggest negative for even Class A RVs.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (qoGsy)

The cure: at RV places I have been to, I just use their restrooms. Not ideal but you do what you must.

I likewise fight relentlessly to never, ever use a public restroom for #2.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:47 PM (DCsOE)

Thing is, even though an RV bathroom is tiny and cramped, it is your own tiny, cramped bathroom, and you don't have to walk past a hundred strangers to get to it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:50 PM (7x1j9)

201 History has shown that Rhode Island is a remote enclave that the Portuguese deported all their incorrigible criminals to. A Penal Colony-like Australia or Georgia. How it's considered a state-I'll never know.

Posted by: States Rights and Wrongs at September 18, 2023 10:50 PM (83IzV)

202 Three seems low. Most of us has five, just in our heads. Seven, if you count the two with balls in them.
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I think he meant he has three bonus holes.

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 18, 2023 10:50 PM (aBJcM)

203 Of the very few things I genuinely feel bad about it's insulting SMH.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:50 PM (43xH1)

204 Its funny back when the Iraq army got a little frisky with jihadis...who were often caught murdering civilians...the FNM went ballistic.

Now our supposed ally in Ukraine has an open kill list that includes American citizens and...they have a number in prison right now there don't they?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 10:51 PM (XqcwY)

205 It's okay, LenNeal.

lol

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 18, 2023 10:51 PM (MM9nI)

206 Yes, now check the other side.

Not a lot of road network in the Chukotka Autonomous Oblast.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:52 PM (2tUFv)

207 One of the suspected causes in that parking garage collapse from the article- “ excessive loads on structure, ”

Got to wonder how many big battery powered electric conveyances were parked there.

Posted by: Brett K at September 18, 2023 10:52 PM (Gs3JA)

208 Thing is, even though an RV bathroom is tiny and cramped, it is your own tiny, cramped bathroom, and you don't have to walk past a hundred strangers to get to it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

On Turkish Airlines they clean the bathrooms constantly, and still every time I go in there are footprints on the seat because Mid-East camel fuckers can't shit without squatting and hoist up on the toilet seats.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:52 PM (43xH1)

209 Wasn't the 737 crash caused by the failure of a repair done to fix a tail strike?

I remember reading about the sequence of events but not much more.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 18, 2023 10:52 PM (KATBx)

210 207 One of the suspected causes in that parking garage collapse from the article- “ excessive loads on structure, ”

Got to wonder how many big battery powered electric conveyances were parked there.
Posted by: Brett K at September 18, 2023 10:52 PM (Gs3JA)

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Not that many.

Posted by: The Florida All-Girl Footbridge Engineering Team at September 18, 2023 10:53 PM (bQKgA)

211 Wasn't the 737 crash caused by the failure of a repair done to fix a tail strike?

I remember reading about the sequence of events but not much more.
Posted by: irongrampa'

Frozen turkey through the windshield:

https://tinyurl.com/8k74876d

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:55 PM (43xH1)

212 86 Now that the Senate has no dress code, it would be cool if a bunch of Senators showed up in togas.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (2tUFv)

And with knives.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 18, 2023 10:22 PM (lQONO)

Now in theaters! A blockbuster!

"Tyranny of the Idiots"

Starring Joe Biden, John Fetterman, and Kamala Harris

Co-starring Hunter Biden, the Cast of "The View," Joy Reid, Antony Blinken, Chris "Crissy" Hayes, Pete "Mayor Pete" Buttigeig, and Jennifer Granholm.

Special Appearance by Karine Jean-Pierre as "The First Ever Everything!"

Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 10:55 PM (5fDan)

213 "Evel Knievel was a native Montanan."
*********
He was from Butte.

Posted by: Cosda at September 18, 2023 10:55 PM (wnzb+)

214
Thing is, even though an RV bathroom is tiny and cramped, it is your own tiny, cramped bathroom, and you don't have to walk past a hundred strangers to get to it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:50 PM (7x1j9)

__________

The bathrooms at show sites are usually so disgusting and/or used by so many people that Her Majesty will never give up her tiny bathroom in her Class C.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 10:56 PM (MoZTd)

215 Quote I: Billionaire feels underappreciated. Feels bad, man.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 18, 2023 10:56 PM (KFhLj)

216 I'm skeptical about Montana. I mean, have you ever actually *met* anyone from 'Montana'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, sporting three holes at September 18, 2023 10:27 PM (D9jtQ)

I worked with one guy who claimed to be from Montana.

He was literally the dirtiest person I have known. Like Pigpen.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 10:56 PM (aD39U)

217 The bathrooms at show sites are usually so disgusting and/or used by so many people that Her Majesty will never give up her tiny bathroom in her Class C.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 10:56 PM (MoZTd)

Does she have a little fire hydrant in there, too, for the doggos?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:57 PM (7x1j9)

218 Now in theaters! A blockbuster!

"Tyranny of the Idiots"

Starring Joe Biden, John Fetterman, and Kamala Harris

Co-starring Hunter Biden, the Cast of "The View," Joy Reid, Antony Blinken, Chris "Crissy" Hayes, Pete "Mayor Pete" Buttigeig, and Jennifer Granholm.

Special Appearance by Karine Jean-Pierre as "The First Ever Everything!"
Posted by: GL'

I would watch this. But then I watch a lot of Russian car crash videos.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:58 PM (43xH1)

219 Does she have a little fire hydrant in there, too, for the doggos?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Well played, AOP, well played!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at September 18, 2023 10:58 PM (hOUT3)

220 He was literally the dirtiest person I have known. Like Pigpen.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) '

Filthiest guy I ever met was a rural Finn from the UP.
Holy shit he had just no idea of hygiene.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 10:59 PM (43xH1)

221 Another week without CRT as a top commentor.

If anyone comes across him in the boxes, let him know that he is missed but at least some of us hope he is being productive and living his best life.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM

I had a brief email exchange with CRT a week ago or so. He's taking a break from the blog.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 18, 2023 11:00 PM (azYCi)

222 Every single time an American engineer fucks up, he goes -- running - looking for a woman to blame it on. Pitiable.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 18, 2023 11:00 PM (4PZHB)

223 Decided to get a little crazy tonight, made a Long Island Iced Tea.

Big Mistake.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 11:02 PM (XV/Pl)

224 Evel Knievel was a native Montanan."
*********
He was from Butte.
Posted by: Cosda at September 18, 2023 10:55 PM (wnzb+)

That was why he was always trying to kill himself jumping motorcycles.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 18, 2023 11:02 PM (azYCi)

225 This guy reminded me of Dirty Steve Stephens from Young Guns.

Good thing we worked outside.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:03 PM (aD39U)

226 I hear Montana can be tough in winter

Posted by: DB - much ballyhooed at September 18, 2023 11:03 PM (geLO8)

227 One would think there would be some type of location beacon in a multi-million dollar airplane. Just thinkin' outloud.

Crap. Not you, too, with the "a plane should be easy to find" crap.

No, a stealth combat aircraft that might be shot down should NOT be easy to find when it crashes.

Posted by: GWB at September 18, 2023 11:04 PM (M+Nrs)

228 178 Back in 2017 the F-35 was grounded due to problems with its oxygen supply system.

https://tinyurl.com/mv9udt6e

Maybe the pilot bailed out because the plane was trying to kill him.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 18, 2023 10:43 PM (0zqNr)

IIRC, the F-22 also had a problem with its oxygen system. I can't remember the year(s).

Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 11:04 PM (5fDan)

229 My BIL's brother hails from RI. He's a "progressive" poster child.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 18, 2023 11:04 PM (V8he0)

230 Oh, and they found wreckage today. Less than 24 hours after the crash. So it wasn't really as "hard to find" as people liked to joke.

Sorry, but I take aircraft mishaps seriously.

Posted by: GWB at September 18, 2023 11:05 PM (M+Nrs)

231 I hear Montana can be tough in winter

Don't want any part of that.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 18, 2023 11:06 PM (V8he0)

232 American unions are too stupid to see past their singular obsession with battling Management for spoils of war to consider the bigger picture like that.

It goes back to the days when FUSA won WW2 and FUSA and the UK were the only major auto manufacturing nations to not have their factories reduced to rubble. So the unions could demand anything they want because there was no competition, and the unions were always adversarial to management.

OTOH, Germany and Japan had to start from scratch. Labor and management operated in partnership, so now the US and UK have dying if not dead auto manufacturing while Japan and Germany lead everyone.

Arrogance, entitlement, ingratitude and contempt are not components for any success in life. Far too many Americans (and apparently other English speakers globally) seem to feature this dysfunctional work habit.

Far, far away from the Protestant Work Ethic that made the West supremely powerful.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 18, 2023 11:06 PM (p8A+W)

233 Every single time an American engineer fucks up, he goes -- running - looking for a woman to blame it on. Pitiable.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver'

Interesting observation. At RomneyCorp one guy in Maintenance declared he wouldn't work under a woman. He got a female boss and he came to work, propped his legs up on the table, got fired, and left. I think he was right, now. At the time I thought he was a primitive sexist but now I'm not completely sure. I like women, honestly and not just like "OOOH!! Pussy!" I kind of need them to keep me not... being such a killer. My current boss is female, but I her father was military.
I don't know.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:07 PM (43xH1)

234
The problem with Mr. Gurner's thesis is that companies have used everything up to and maybe not excluding Zyklon B to get rid of the kind of people who were hardworking and dedicated. Because they were too old and expensive. Now you got what you wanted.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 11:07 PM (MoZTd)

235 Have any of y'all ever stayed at a Trump Hotel? I'm thinking of staying at the Trump
towers in Las Vegas when I go for Marines weeding next month.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 18, 2023 11:09 PM (b7MbH)

236 Far, far away from the Protestant Work Ethic that made the West supremely powerful.
Posted by: Reuben Hick'

Oh! You missed the banking innovations which have nothing to do with God

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:09 PM (43xH1)

237 Marines weeding next month.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan'

Is this a wedding, or a weeding?

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:10 PM (43xH1)

238 235 Have any of y'all ever stayed at a Trump Hotel? I'm thinking of staying at the Trump
towers in Las Vegas when I go for Marines weeding next month.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 18, 2023 11:09 PM (b7MbH)

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Never have myself, but the Taco Bowls are legendary.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:10 PM (bQKgA)

239 Every single time an American engineer fucks up, he goes -- running - looking for a woman to blame it on. Pitiable.

Now there's a metric ton of horseshit.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 18, 2023 11:10 PM (V8he0)

240 If it's a wedding, Trump.
If it's a weeding, Ramada.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:10 PM (43xH1)

241 No mention of the gender of the F-35 pilot probably tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: DBCooper at September 18, 2023 11:10 PM (y1Mvi)

242 No mention of the gender of the F-35 pilot probably tells you all you need to know.
Posted by: DBCooper at September 18, 2023 11:10 PM (y1Mvi)

Good observation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 11:11 PM (7x1j9)

243 Best states to go to get a new start. The Dakotas. Wyoming. Montana. Utah. Nevada. Arizona.

Posted by: JmT at September 18, 2023 11:11 PM (ucixH)

244 >Have any of y'all ever stayed at a Trump Hotel? I'm thinking of staying at the Trump
towers in Las Vegas ...

Posted by: nurse ratched

google says 4.3 stars

Posted by: DB - much ballyhooed at September 18, 2023 11:12 PM (geLO8)

245 Every single time an American engineer fucks up, he goes -- running - looking for a woman to blame it on. Pitiable.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

Huhn?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 18, 2023 11:12 PM (IG4Id)

246 Hadrian, the Astros are again about to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory. Yikes.

Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 11:13 PM (5fDan)

247 Howdy Nurse!

Posted by: DBCooper at September 18, 2023 11:14 PM (y1Mvi)

248
Hadrian, the Astros are again about to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory. Yikes.
Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 11:13 PM (5fDan)

________

At least it's a first-place team and not a last-place team.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 18, 2023 11:14 PM (MoZTd)

249 The USW (Steel Industry union, whatever is left anyway) did the same thing. Dad worked in a mill in Sharon, PA for 25 years. It survived the culling in the 70s and 80s. Then the 90s came around with a new owner and a new deal with the union. It shut down in '95. The owner was a crook and the Union leadership pretty much looted everything and skipped town.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 18, 2023 10:45 PM (sAmhv)

The UKR oligarch behind Zelenskyy is Kholomosky (now awaiting trial for corruption lol) and he bought and then shut down a lot of W and SW PA mills.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 18, 2023 11:15 PM (/crfU)

250 I think he meant he has three bonus holes.
Posted by: screaming in digital

He's a kangaroo?

Posted by: mikeski at September 18, 2023 11:15 PM (DgGvY)

251 I'm watching an interview between Niall Ferguson and
Chris Williamson and I'm a bit disappointed. Niall says America has had plenty of populist figures similiar to Trump. https://youtu.be/h-XRR3z23tU?si=YiScFvM4HjQFWNLc

I was expecting Niall to mention...Jackson, or Reagan, or Jefferson and...he goes with some fringe guy I'd never heard of.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 11:15 PM (XqcwY)

252 244 >Have any of y'all ever stayed at a Trump Hotel? I'm thinking of staying at the Trump
towers in Las Vegas ...

Posted by: nurse ratched

google says 4.3 stars

Posted by: DB - much ballyhooed at September 18, 2023 11:12 PM (geLO

FYI - there is no gambling in the Las Vegas Trump Hotel.

Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 11:16 PM (5fDan)

253 DBCooper!

Howdy! How's the fire season?

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 18, 2023 11:16 PM (pAbDW)

254 I likewise fight relentlessly to never, ever use a public restroom for #2.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 10:47 PM (DCsOE)

Thing is, even though an RV bathroom is tiny and cramped, it is your own tiny, cramped bathroom, and you don't have to walk past a hundred strangers to get to it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:50 PM (7x1j9)

There is something to that. My rule is that if I have to sit, it will be in a place that I maintain. I know how clean my toilets are. The wipe downs done with bleach treated wipes attest to that.

I look at public restrooms and I cringe thinking of the possibilities of uncleanliness.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 11:16 PM (DCsOE)

255 241 No mention of the gender of the F-35 pilot probably tells you all you need to know.
Posted by: DBCooper

The onboard software got confused when the pilot changed the preferred pronouns mid-flight. The software for the voice alerts started sucking up clock cycles, and sent out an endless wail of disparity into the pilot’s helmet.

/s?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at September 18, 2023 11:16 PM (mNmNo)

256 Now there's a metric ton of horseshit.
Posted by: Notorious BFD'

A metric ton is 1,000 kilograms, and compared to a British 'tonne' which is 2240 pounds. An American 'ton' is 2,000 pounds.

I learned this from a Tarzan comic book from the 1950s where a bad guy ran out of gas trying to escape Tarzan's justice because he didn't know the difference between a British tonne and an American ton, and failed to know the difference between a British gallon, which is approximately 20% less and therefore his Land Rover ran out of gas and Tarzan caught him.

Oongawa!

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:16 PM (43xH1)

257 Far, far away from the Protestant Work Ethic that made the West supremely powerful.
Posted by: Reuben Hick

Protestant Work Ethic >>> Protesting Woke Ethic

Posted by: mikeski at September 18, 2023 11:17 PM (DgGvY)

258 Free Silver! 16-to-1!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:17 PM (aD39U)

259 W PA steel mills were run by idiots and the USW staffed with corrupt assholes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 18, 2023 11:17 PM (2xN+m)

260 Nurse-
Dismal, almost over. Despite all the alarmist claims to the contrary, Fires are not getting bigger and don't last all year long. I'm thinking about suing them.

Posted by: DBCooper at September 18, 2023 11:19 PM (y1Mvi)

261 I think the overarching problem is the an autoworker at one of the Big Three can no longer afford to buy the vehicles they assemble.

A Light Duty GMC Canyon 2WD base model will run you over 40k.

The Price of a new F150 is absurd.

Don't get me started on Stellantis, their prices on average have risen nearly 50pct in the last three years.

What does the average line worker make? 25 an hour?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 11:19 PM (XV/Pl)

262 FYI - there is no gambling in the Las Vegas Trump Hotel.
Posted by: GL

I'm shocked.

Posted by: Capt. Renault at September 18, 2023 11:19 PM (DgGvY)

263 I learned this from a Tarzan comic book from the 1950s where a bad guy ran out of gas trying to escape Tarzan's justice because he didn't know the difference between a British tonne and an American ton, and failed to know the difference between a British gallon, which is approximately 20% less and therefore his Land Rover ran out of gas and Tarzan caught him.

Oongawa!
Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:16 PM (43xH1)

But Tarzan knew? I guess Cheeta told him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 11:19 PM (S6gqv)

264 Nurse-
Dismal, almost over. Despite all the alarmist claims to the contrary, Fires are not getting bigger and don't last all year long. I'm thinking about suing them.
Posted by: DBCooper'

If you are who you say you are, where's the money and why are you on AoS?

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:20 PM (43xH1)

265 What does the average line worker make? 25 an hour?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 11:19 PM (XV/Pl)

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The tips are what keep them afloat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:20 PM (bQKgA)

266 @251

>>I was expecting Niall to mention...Jackson, or Reagan, or Jefferson and...he goes with some fringe guy I'd never heard of.

Was it Lyndon Larouche?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 11:21 PM (XV/Pl)

267 The tips are what keep them afloat.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:20 PM (bQKgA)

They get a pension too, I think.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:21 PM (aD39U)

268 Are there no workhouses, no prisons?

---Billionaire Tim Gurner

Posted by: Kindltot at September 18, 2023 11:21 PM (xhaym)

269 >>I was expecting Niall to mention...Jackson, or Reagan, or Jefferson and...he goes with some fringe guy I'd never heard of.

Was it Lyndon Larouche?

The guy he mentioned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Kearney

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 11:22 PM (XqcwY)

270 Do autoworkers get to buy their vehicles at a discount?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:22 PM (aD39U)

271
Don't get me started on Stellantis, their prices on average have risen nearly 50pct in the last three years.

What does the average line worker make? 25 an hour?
Posted by: Thomas Bender'

Not even that. The reason I turned it down was they were moving to the Just In Time thing and the vast majority of what was being done was sub-assemblies offsite. Those jobs didn't pay shit.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:22 PM (43xH1)

272 I ran out of that money a long time ago, and lost some in OR. That's why I'm forced to sue the climate alarmists for false claims.

Posted by: DBCooper at September 18, 2023 11:23 PM (y1Mvi)

273 270 Do autoworkers get to buy their vehicles at a discount?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:22 PM (aD39U)

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Oh you bet.

Posted by: Johnny Cash at September 18, 2023 11:23 PM (bQKgA)

274 No, a stealth combat aircraft that might be shot down should NOT be easy to find when it crashes.
Posted by: GWB at September 18, 2023 11:04 PM

I'm sure a Find/Hide switch would never be mis-set during a mission or that a crash position locator would ever turn on when it *needs* to be off.

Posted by: Chuck C at September 18, 2023 11:23 PM (xttsV)

275 I worked, temporarily on an assembly line, as a young man. This experience was enough for me to save my money for college.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 11:23 PM (MeG8a)

276 Do autoworkers get to buy their vehicles at a discount?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)'

NO.
You could buy a FIAT at full price, negiotated by the Union, no credit check no nothing, and have the payment removed from your paycheck.

I turned down a line job at Belvidere for a reason.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:24 PM (43xH1)

277 In my youth, I was booted out of subassembly at an Onan Electric factory for working too swiftly. I got sent to the machine shop 3rd shift.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:25 PM (aD39U)

278 Hadrian, the Astros are again about to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory. Yikes.
Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 11:13 PM

The current World Series champion Astros?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 18, 2023 11:25 PM (kjOVp)

279 I worked, temporarily on an assembly line, as a young man. This experience was enough for me to save my money for college.
Posted by: gourmand du jour'

I can't sit in an office. Good for you. Someone has to Make Stuff and you implied here that people who do that are stupid.
Take it back.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:26 PM (43xH1)

280 270 Do autoworkers get to buy their vehicles at a discount?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:22 PM (aD39U)

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Oh you bet.
Posted by: Johnny Cash at September 18, 2023 11:23 PM

Well played. An Aadaptorr kit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 18, 2023 11:26 PM (GwxCX)

281 Anyone happen have a TM4801P laying around that's not just a re-marked chip from China?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 18, 2023 11:26 PM (Bd6X8)

282 NO.
You could buy a FIAT at full price, negiotated by the Union, no credit check no nothing, and have the payment removed from your paycheck.

I wonder why not. It would be a cheap perk. When I worked at a firearms distributer, we could buy all items wholesale, some at cost.

It was good for morale.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:27 PM (aD39U)

283 There's been a systematic change where employees feel the employer is extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around.
-
This is incorrect.

In America, employee and employer are equals, trading the employer's money for the employee's time, talents, and effort.

If anything employers, when they aren't individual people, are of lesser importance since the sole point of America is the defense of the God given Rights of the individual, which as we've seen in recent years, corporations are as likely to try to violate as governments.

Posted by: Methos at September 18, 2023 11:27 PM (Dnobf)

284 Wouldn't it be incredible if Dusty got two chips in a row. He was a master of the race card when he was the manager in Chicago.

Posted by: JmT at September 18, 2023 11:27 PM (ucixH)

285 271
Don't get me started on Stellantis, their prices on average have risen nearly 50pct in the last three years.

What does the average line worker make? 25 an hour?
Posted by: Thomas Bender'

Not even that. The reason I turned it down was they were moving to the Just In Time thing and the vast majority of what was being done was sub-assemblies offsite. Those jobs didn't pay shit.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:22 PM (43xH1)

I heard a radio news story today (not NPR) saying many union auto workers make only $17 an hour, the same as fast food workers in California nowadays. True? I dunno.

Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 11:28 PM (5fDan)

286 Take the 2005 Chevy Colorado, the base 2WD MSRP for that year was 15k, adjusted for inflation, it's 23k, a current base model will set you back a cool 35k.

That is if you can even get a base 2WD, more than likely you will not be able to order one and you will be offered an up fitted one so you're looking at roughly 40-40k just to get a freaking light duty pickup truck.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 11:28 PM (XV/Pl)

287 In my youth, I was booted out of subassembly at an Onan Electric factory for working too swiftly. I got sent to the machine shop 3rd shift.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)'

I did that at EcoLab, the old Hmong lady told me what to do and told me what she'd been doing for 30 years. I'm like, 'Sure, I get paid the same.'
She loved me.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:28 PM (43xH1)

288 Oh! You missed the banking innovations which have nothing to do with God

Oh, you mean the Creature from Jekyll Island?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 18, 2023 11:28 PM (p8A+W)

289 I've had lots of blue collar jobs, some of which were dangerous. If you'd like to throw rocks at me for that, have at it. Do your worst.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 11:28 PM (MeG8a)

290 ..Wasn't the 737 crash caused by the failure of a repair done to fix a tail strike?

I remember reading about the sequence of events but not much more. Posted by: irongrampa at September 18, 2023 10:52 PM (KATBx)

That was a Japan Air Lines Boeing 747. Yep, and the repair missed an entire semi-circular section of rivets on the aft pressure bulkhead.

When that stress-fratured and blew out, it took with it the rudder itself, and the controls for the horizontal stabilizers. Pilots kinda steered it with thrust differential, but could not control pitch, thus altitude, and the plane flew into a mountain.

Still, they fought it for over 45 minutes, a truly heroic effort in a cause doomed to disaster.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2023 11:29 PM (e6UQI)

291 277 In my youth, I was booted out of subassembly at an Onan Electric factory for working too swiftly. I got sent to the machine shop 3rd shift.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:25 PM (aD39U)

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I'll bet your wrists were sore after a shift at Onan. I don't know how those workers manage to meet their quotas.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:29 PM (bQKgA)

292 I heard a radio news story today (not NPR) saying many union auto workers make only $17 an hour, the same as fast food workers in California nowadays. True? I dunno.
Posted by: GL'

Sub assembly offsite it's not even that. I stayed put at the supermarket and I stay in parity with inflation.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:29 PM (43xH1)

293 Growing up in Michigan, all the car dealership ads in Detroit newspapers had two prices listed. One for employees, the other for the rest of us.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 18, 2023 11:29 PM (kjOVp)

294 I'll bet your wrists were sore after a shift at Onan. I don't know how those workers manage to meet their quotas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:29 PM (bQKgA)

Subassembly is very boring. The only amusement that I got was by trying to be faster and faster. I learned how to turn screws with both hands, even to screw in with one hand while unscrewing with the other interchangeably.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:31 PM (aD39U)

295 289 I've had lots of blue collar jobs, some of which were dangerous. If you'd like to throw rocks at me for that, have at it. Do your worst.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 11:28 PM (MeG8a)

I always enjoyed blue collar type jobs more than the so-called professional level stuff. At higher levels you always gotta hold everyone's hand and make sure they feel good about everything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 11:31 PM (S6gqv)

296 I'll bet your wrists were sore after a shift at Onan. I don't know how those workers manage to meet their quotas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:29 PM (bQKgA)

Oh. ISWYDT.

I can be slow sometimes.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:32 PM (aD39U)

297 I've had lots of blue collar jobs, some of which were dangerous. If you'd like to throw rocks at me for that, have at it. Do your worst.
Posted by: gourmand du jour'

I went to work on a hillbilly roofing crew from the Hills for cash, used the money I made to finance drug deals, and used that money to buy a house from a criminal. I won't throw stones but this is the most respectable I have ever been.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:32 PM (43xH1)

298 I'll bet your wrists were sore after a shift at Onan. I don't know how those workers manage to meet their quotas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:29 PM (bQKgA)

Subassembly is very boring. The only amusement that I got was by trying to be faster and faster. I learned how to turn screws with both hands, even to screw in with one hand while unscrewing with the other interchangeably.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:31 PM (aD39U)

Looks up.

Zooooom!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 11:32 PM (Angsy)

299
Oh. ISWYDT.

I can be slow sometimes.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:32 PM (aD39U)

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Low-hanging fruit. Sorry.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:32 PM (bQKgA)

300 Oh, Mothra is starting on TCM! All of the Japanese monster movies are pretty weird, but the two tiny singing Princesses raise the weirdness level of this one way over any of the others.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 11:32 PM (S6gqv)

301
Your Joke
------------
My head

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:32 PM (aD39U)

302 I can be slow sometimes.

Ans yet too quick to stay working on subassemblies. Tells you something about the rest of the crew.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 18, 2023 11:33 PM (Bd6X8)

303 Low-hanging fruit. Sorry.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:32 PM (bQKgA)

Below the belt?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 18, 2023 11:34 PM (Angsy)

304 I can't sit in an office. Good for you. Someone has to Make Stuff and you implied here that people who do that are stupid.
Take it back.

I'm pretty sure that the person who loads a kevlar sheet into a press, punches a large button to watch a plunger mash the material into a helmet, and repeats that process several times a minute, five days a week for twenty years is not the same caliber person who services A/C, machines tools, welds titanium bicycle frames, rebuilds transmissions, or operates custom CNC equipment.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 18, 2023 11:34 PM (p8A+W)

305 Subassembly is very boring. The only amusement that I got was by trying to be faster and faster. I learned how to turn screws with both hands, even to screw in with one hand while unscrewing with the other interchangeably.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)'

One girl I met worked on the land mine assembly in Janesville where she had to screw in the tip. Her problem wasn't that it was boring but that the woman next to her stunk. So they shifted her to the opposite side of the line so she could screw in the fuses with her left hand. She said the smell wasn't any better.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:35 PM (43xH1)

306 I congratulate you from your ascent from a roofer!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 11:35 PM (MeG8a)

307 In America, employee and employer are equals, trading the employer's money for the employee's time, talents, and effort.

I don't know if it's equal.

In most cases it's purely transactional. The relationship closely mirrors prostitution. Which is to say the john cares nothing for the prostitute and neither does the prostitute care for the john.

Both are engaged in mutual exploitation, the prostitute preying upon the loneliness and physical needs of the john for financial gain, the john abusing the body of the prostitute for carnal pleasure.

What most people long for, if only subconsciously, is a relationship of mutual understanding and admiration. One in which both parties might act selflessly at times, against their own interests, based on news and respect.

This is why the small, family run business is desirable to the soulless corporation. There is a personal relationship between employer and employee, at its best resulting in both acting to see each other more prosperous.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 18, 2023 11:35 PM (wAdQF)

308 I always envied the carb assemblers. They had a workstation that looked like sci-fi command chair.

I will bet that is all automated now.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:35 PM (aD39U)

309 One girl I met worked on the land mine assembly in Janesville where she had to screw in the tip. Her problem wasn't that it was boring but that the woman next to her stunk. So they shifted her to the opposite side of the line so she could screw in the fuses with her left hand. She said the smell wasn't any better.

That's one job you never want to have a blast doing.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 18, 2023 11:36 PM (Bd6X8)

310 *based on mutual respect.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 18, 2023 11:36 PM (wAdQF)

311 heard a radio news story today (not NPR) saying many union auto workers make only $17 an hour, the same as fast food workers in California nowadays. True? I dunno.
Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 11:28 PM (5fDan)

That sounds low. I'd think union Auto workers make around 40 an hour.

Posted by: JmT at September 18, 2023 11:36 PM (ucixH)

312 I'm pretty sure that the person who loads a kevlar sheet into a press, punches a large button to watch a plunger mash the material into a helmet, and repeats that process several times a minute, five days a week for twenty years is not the same caliber person who services A/C, machines tools, welds titanium bicycle frames, rebuilds transmissions, or operates custom CNC equipment.
Posted by: Reuben Hick'

You are wrong. Some people find pride in constant work. They are not explorers. The world needs ditch diggers.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:36 PM (43xH1)

313 I'll bet your wrists were sore after a shift at Onan.

You do know that masturbation is called Onanism.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 18, 2023 11:37 PM (p8A+W)

314 Why does it kinda smell like Tickled Pink up in here?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 18, 2023 11:37 PM (mOkB5)

315 Your Joke
------------
My head
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

It sure made your reply funnier, though.

But now I have to change the batteries in my phrasing meter.

Posted by: mikeski at September 18, 2023 11:37 PM (DgGvY)

316 304 I can't sit in an office. Good for you. Someone has to Make Stuff and you implied here that people who do that are stupid.
Take it back.

I'm pretty sure that the person who loads a kevlar sheet into a press, punches a large button to watch a plunger mash the material into a helmet, and repeats that process several times a minute, five days a week for twenty years is not the same caliber person who services A/C, machines tools, welds titanium bicycle frames, rebuilds transmissions, or operates custom CNC equipment.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 18, 2023 11:34 PM (p8A+W)

"The job makes the man" is a saying I read somewhere a long ago.

Posted by: GL at September 18, 2023 11:37 PM (5fDan)

317 259 W PA steel mills were run by idiots and the USW staffed with corrupt assholes.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 18, 2023 11:17 PM (2xN+m)

"WAAAHHHHHHHH!!! Why don't we make steel anymore???"

- most Americans who think you can - and MUST - put up with such behavior, because patriotism

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 11:37 PM (DCsOE)

318 I'll bet your wrists were sore after a shift at Onan. I don't know how those workers manage to meet their quotas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:29 PM (bQKgA)

Sheesh. That's nothing.
You should try baiting hooks on the fishing boats out of the ports in Washington State. Usually takes two or three fishing seasons to move on from apprentice baiter.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 18, 2023 11:38 PM (uSHSS)

319 I'll bet your wrists were sore after a shift at Onan.

You do know that masturbation is called Onanism.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 18, 2023 11:37 PM (p8A+W)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE SOURCE OF THE JOKE!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 18, 2023 11:38 PM (aD39U)

320 @312

>>The world needs ditch diggers.

And if the maniacs currently running the world keep on their current path, I predict a booming market in ditch digging and wood chipper sales.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 11:38 PM (XV/Pl)

321 That's one job you never want to have a blast doing.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 18, 2023 11:36 PM (Bd6X

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There are always openings for the quality inspector who checks the land mines with a hammer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:38 PM (bQKgA)

322 I congratulate you from your ascent from a roofer!
Posted by: gourmand du jour'

I only fell once and it scared the shit out of me. I'm okay up to about 40 feet and then... nah.
In Chiraq I used to clean gutters out of bungalow roofs for steelworkers, they were terrified to get on a stepladder.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:38 PM (43xH1)

323 Tim Gurner was a bit inarticulate....but he's not wrong.

I've been in management since getting out of the service, more than a few years now. I tell you this..the level of snot nosed entitlement on the brats comprising the current workforce is absolutely off the charts. However bad you may imagine it to be, I assure you, the reality is far far worse.

These kids walk in the door demanding salary, bennies, and authority of people with ten plus years on the job, and then sulk when told that's not how the world works. They're constantly late. Frequently they won't work at all. "Mental health day" or somesuch other bull crap.

It's completely out of hand. Senior Chief would have had me running sprints round the barracks with a full combat load until I bloody well collapsed if I tried to pull a tenth of what these little bastards do on a daily basis.

Posted by: SeaWorldActual at September 18, 2023 11:39 PM (oqlq+)

324 you implied here that people who do that are stupid

I don't think he was saying anything of the sort. I've also worked assembly line and piece work jobs. It can be mind-numbingly boring.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 18, 2023 11:39 PM (V8he0)

325 I always envied the carb assemblers. They had a workstation that looked like sci-fi command chair.

I will bet that is all automated now.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:35 PM (aD39U)

Granpaw, what's a carburetor?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 11:40 PM (7x1j9)

326
"The job makes the man" is a saying I read somewhere a long ago.
Posted by: GL'

That is not true. I met many people on assembly lines who were genuinely not suited to anything else.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:40 PM (43xH1)

327 The grass is always greener. When I worked outside, I dreamed of nice clean comfortable inside jobs. When I was inside, I looked out the window wistfully.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:40 PM (aD39U)

328 Niall Ferguson is asked again about Trump and he says that he has a good chance to win and notes its really amazing that a guy being charged for claiming that the last election was stolen from him could win a separated terms like Cleveland.

And...there is an answer to that staring you in the case, Niall.

If the election was stolen from him he also had most people voting for him last time too...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 11:41 PM (XqcwY)

329 Granpaw, what's a carburetor?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

"Wallll, yousee, Son, back when folk thought there might be a way to shoot gasoline into what we used to call a combustion chamber, if you don' know what that means it's okay, Son, and then make it move a car around, then..."

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:42 PM (43xH1)

330 312 I'm pretty sure that the person who loads a kevlar sheet into a press, punches a large button to watch a plunger mash the material into a helmet, and repeats that process several times a minute, five days a week for twenty years is not the same caliber person who services A/C, machines tools, welds titanium bicycle frames, rebuilds transmissions, or operates custom CNC equipment.
Posted by: Reuben Hick'

You are wrong. Some people find pride in constant work. They are not explorers. The world needs ditch diggers.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:36 PM (43xH1)

It takes all kinds and we all have our role. It's why some things grate on me: venerating certain professions, the emphasis on one sort of job over others...

Yeah, I like manufacuring as much as the next guy but those simply aren't the only jobs out there. I don't sneer at the service sector either, or ag, or commerce of all kinds, or...

Maybe we should stop cheerfully electing governments that are hostile to personal success and achievement, and are hostile to business. Maybe we should tell unions more and more every day to go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 11:42 PM (DCsOE)

331 That is not true. I met many people on assembly lines who were genuinely not suited to anything else.

"The fuzzy side of the broom goes on the floor you idiot"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 18, 2023 11:42 PM (p8A+W)

332 Well, Len Neal, I hope to shake your hand someday.
We will roll for drinks.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 11:42 PM (MeG8a)

333 @324

>>It can be mind-numbingly boring.

Well, yeah, that's the Tao of line work..

...never ending, repeatable, predictable and reproducible shift after shift after shift after shift after.....

Real Wheel of Pain Type Shit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 11:43 PM (XV/Pl)

334 Real Wheel of Pain Type Shit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 11:43 PM (XV/Pl)

Contemplate this on the tree of woe.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:43 PM (aD39U)

335 What I got out of the Time piece.
- His professional organizations helped the politicians screw up the health care industry
- He does not know how to train and manage people to do the mundane tasks so he has to do it
- He wants more money, so he works long hours instead of cutting back on patients
- He is an MD and is too important to do anything except SAVE LIVES. Only low paid peons should click computer mice or talk on phone
- Somehow, the market is flawed and he is forced to work while unhappy instead of switching practice, etc.
- This is all the patients fault. HE, the DOCTOR is a victim. We need to be compassionate and just stop having questions.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 11:43 PM (d5suT)

336 The hammer is the most efficient murder weapon. Better than a gun. Argue it.

Posted by: JmT at September 18, 2023 11:44 PM (ucixH)

337 I predict that Kanal workers will be in high demand in the future.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:45 PM (aD39U)

338
This is why the small, family run business is desirable to the soulless corporation. There is a personal relationship between employer and employee, at its best resulting in both acting to see each other more prosperous.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 18, 2023 11:35 PM (wAdQF)

I don't get the blind veneration of that, either. The small, family run business can be just as soulless. And some small businesses just plain suck. And yes, I have worked in a small business. First job I had.

There are good and bad small businesses. There are good and bad big businesses.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 11:45 PM (DCsOE)

339
There are always openings for the quality inspector who checks the land mines with a hammer.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)'

There was a UK show, they sued to show it on PBS, the "Dave-" show? where he did a bit of the UXB guy who did exactly that, it was funny as hell

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:45 PM (43xH1)

340 Doctors did not realize it as it was happening, but accepting insurance price schedules lowered their revenue, forcing them to take on more patients in order to make up for lost income.

So here we are.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 18, 2023 11:45 PM (iyc2T)

341 One girl I met worked on the land mine assembly in Janesville where she had to screw in the tip

Just the tip!

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 18, 2023 11:46 PM (GwxCX)

342 ..Do autoworkers get to buy their vehicles at a discount? Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:22 PM (aD39U)

Yes, and the Suppliers to the company, as well. With Ford, that's called the "X-Plan" and it is a number clearly printed on each and every Factory Invoice.

On an F-150, that'll be a number about $350 *under* Invoice (not MSRP), and that bite into the Dealer Holdback IS refunded to the Dealer, once the correct paperwork is submitted.

An "X-Plan" deal requires a Company Code (either Ford itself or supplier such as Borg-Warner, Dow Chemical, etc.), and that employee's Personal I.D. number. Oh, and a letter from their H.R. verifying the X-Plan eligibilty.

Immediate family members are also qualified for the discount.

GM & MOPAR have similar, under different names. The imports? Quite frankly, I dunno. Their margins tend to be far lower than the domestics, to begin with.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

p.s. "special" vehicles (Shelby Cobra) and such, are NOT X-Plan eligible units.

Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2023 11:46 PM (e6UQI)

343 335 What I got out of the Time piece.
- His professional organizations helped the politicians screw up the medical care industry
- He does not know how to train and manage people to do the mundane tasks so he has to do it
- He wants more money, so he works long hours instead of cutting back on patients
- He is an MD and is too important to do anything except SAVE LIVES. Only low paid peons should click computer mice or talk on phone
- Somehow, the market is flawed and he is forced to work while unhappy instead of switching practice, etc.
- This is all the patients fault. HE, the DOCTOR is a victim. We need to be compassionate and just stop having questions.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 11:43 PM (d5suT)

So basically the doc is acting like a lot of teachers.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 11:46 PM (DCsOE)

344 Oh and Niall's prediction is...

Trump would beat Biden

Trump would lose to Newsom...even though he notes Newsom has basically destroyed California.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 11:46 PM (XqcwY)

345 >The hammer is the most efficient murder weapon. Better than a gun. Argue it.

Posted by: JmT

I like the femur from a large land mammal

- apelike creature from that movie with the shiny black domino thing that just appears out of nowhere

Posted by: DB - much ballyhooed at September 18, 2023 11:47 PM (geLO8)

346 Roofing Hatchet FTW.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:47 PM (aD39U)

347 >Oh and Niall's prediction is...

Trump would beat Biden

I still think Trump will be in jail, and it won't be Biden

IMO YMMV

Posted by: DB - much ballyhooed at September 18, 2023 11:48 PM (geLO8)

348 181
'The pervs that habituate this place might have pounced on it.'
I'm sure everyone will forget about it quickly.

OOO

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 18, 2023 11:48 PM (roH4R)

349 The hammer is the most efficient murder weapon. Better than a gun. Argue it.

As I tried to tell David when I asked him to hammer me...I didn't mean in my head

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at September 18, 2023 11:48 PM (XqcwY)

350

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

p.s. "special" vehicles (Shelby Cobra) and such, are NOT X-Plan eligible units.
Posted by: Jim'

Thanks! My neck of the woods is Chrysler, so it's different.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:49 PM (43xH1)

351 Do autoworkers get to buy their vehicles at a discount?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Honda had an interesting lease program for their NatGas Civics. Free insurance and free fill-ups (you paid the tax, tho). The only lease program that made financial sense.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 18, 2023 11:49 PM (IG4Id)

352 There are good and bad small businesses. There are good and bad big businesses.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 11:45 PM (DCsOE)

I don't disagree with you.

I will say I generally favor working for an owner I can speak to personally over a proxy vote of share holders chasing quarterly earnings.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 18, 2023 11:49 PM (wAdQF)

353 There are always openings for the quality inspector who checks the land mines with a hammer.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)'

There was a UK show, they sued to show it on PBS, the "Dave-" show? where he did a bit of the UXB guy who did exactly that, it was funny as hell

I thought back to the Bugs Bunny cartoon where he's checking shells with a hammer at the end.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 18, 2023 11:49 PM (Bd6X8)

354 > When the communists come for Gurner, I will have no fucks to give.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 10:21 PM (aD39U)

Likewise.

> Tim Gurner was a bit inarticulate....but he's not wrong.

He is absolutely wrong.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 18, 2023 11:49 PM (Y6AXb)

355 Trump would lose to Newsom...even though he notes Newsom has basically destroyed California.

And...this is something fascinating btw that you can fail, and fail, and fail in a real objective sense and it doesn't matter to a non-trivial number of Americans

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 11:50 PM (XqcwY)

356 If you want to go Full Trotsky on someone's ass an ice axe is your only choice.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:50 PM (bQKgA)

357 Some may not want to work just as a general matter but a lot of people have also learned that meritocracy is largely bullshit and busting your ass nights weekends and holidays for no extra pay, no promotion, not even a COLA is a sucker's game. So people like Gurner who think we peasants should swear fealty, our souls and our lives to them can get blue whale fucked. Working yourself to death for some person or organization that does give a fuck about you is insane.

Posted by: If you don't reward hard work you aren't going to get much hard work at September 18, 2023 11:50 PM (dhxes)

358 Fxxxx, in no particular order, the UAW, GM, Joe Biden, Dems everywhere, the media, and all things Detroit - including the Lions.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at September 18, 2023 11:50 PM (9X60i)

359 I like the femur from a large land mammal

- apelike creature from that movie with the shiny black domino thing that just appears out of nowhere
Posted by: DB - much ballyhooed'

I hear about that.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at September 18, 2023 11:50 PM (43xH1)

360 No one on their deathbed ever said 'I wish I had spent more time at the office.'

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 18, 2023 11:51 PM (aD39U)

361 There was a UK show, they sued to show it on PBS, the "Dave-" show? where he did a bit of the UXB guy who did exactly that, it was funny as hell

Dave Allen?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 18, 2023 11:51 PM (Bd6X8)

362 > Senior Chief would have had me running sprints round the barracks with a full combat load

150 years ago Senior Chief would have had you tied to a grating and given 100 lashes, and if you did it again you'd quite possibly swing from the yardarm.

Times change, and mostly for the better.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 18, 2023 11:52 PM (Y6AXb)

363 And...this is something fascinating btw that you can fail, and fail, and fail in a real objective sense and it doesn't matter to a non-trivial number of Americans

------------

The Hillary Clinton Principle, now being employed to good effect by Bob Iger.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:53 PM (bQKgA)

364 If you want to go Full Trotsky on someone's ass an ice axe is your only choice.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 18, 2023 11:50 PM (bQKgA)

Don't overlook a geologist's rock hammer. A sharp point, with some decent mass behind it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 11:53 PM (7x1j9)

365 Some may not want to work just as a general matter but a lot of people have also learned that meritocracy is largely bullshit and busting your ass nights weekends and holidays for no extra pay, no promotion, not even a COLA is a sucker's game. So people like Gurner who think we peasants should swear fealty, our souls and our lives to them can get blue whale fucked. Working yourself to death for some person or organization that does give a fuck about you is insane.
Posted by: If you don't reward hard work you aren't going to get much hard work'

One of the weirdest moments of my life was realizing that there was no correlation between how hard I worked on anything and the subsequent reward.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:53 PM (43xH1)

366 340 Doctors did not realize it as it was happening, but accepting insurance price schedules lowered their revenue, forcing them to take on more patients in order to make up for lost income.

So here we are.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

And this is the patient's fault?
I understand that Drs are in a bind, but then I saw how few spoke out against the vaccine and I lose all sympathy.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 11:53 PM (d5suT)

367 357 Some may not want to work just as a general matter but a lot of people have also learned that meritocracy is largely bullshit and busting your ass nights weekends and holidays for no extra pay, no promotion, not even a COLA is a sucker's game. So people like Gurner who think we peasants should swear fealty, our souls and our lives to them can get blue whale fucked. Working yourself to death for some person or organization that does give a fuck about you is insane.
Posted by: If you don't reward hard work you aren't going to get much hard work at September 18, 2023 11:50 PM (dhxes)

Not to mention that just getting hired requires knowing people. Americans love and embrace the same corruption they bitch about constantly.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 18, 2023 11:54 PM (DCsOE)

368
I like the femur from a large land mammal

Posted by: DB
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Femur? Pfft.

Posted by: Samson, surveying 1000 Philistine bodies at September 18, 2023 11:54 PM (6d1ps)

369 Re: doctor appointments

I generally had 800-1200 active patients at a time. I had a nurse, a front desk and a med aide clinical with one part time biller. Never made more than 5 figures a year. No one ever waited for an appointment or a return call more 24 hours.

I went to school when tuition was subsidized so I had no loans to pay back and lived a lifestyle within my means. Most docs today are paying back loans until they’re near retirement. And programmed to live beyond their means. So they have to work a larger and more burdensome load to make ends meet. So patient care sucks.

QED

Posted by: epador at September 18, 2023 11:55 PM (h8s0C)

370 Don't overlook a geologist's rock hammer. A sharp point, with some decent mass behind it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

I agree!!!

Posted by: Yes, it's me, Martin Gabel at September 18, 2023 11:56 PM (43xH1)

371 I know what a femur is, but it sounds like it could be one of those new "genders". "I identify as a woman from ancient Mesopotamia".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 18, 2023 11:56 PM (Y6AXb)

372 351 Do autoworkers get to buy their vehicles at a discount?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Honda had an interesting lease program for their NatGas Civics. Free insurance and free fill-ups (you paid the tax, tho). The only lease program that made financial sense.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Samsung had a deal (back when they made cars) where employees who bought one could park in the lot next to the building. Other cars had to park 1/4 a mile away and walk.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 11:56 PM (d5suT)

373 > Samson, surveying 1000 Philistine bodies

I think the jawbone of an ass must've come from a distant ancestor of Joe Biden.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 18, 2023 11:57 PM (Y6AXb)

374 370 Don't overlook a geologist's rock hammer. A sharp point, with some decent mass behind it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

Damn right.

Posted by: Andy DuFresne at September 18, 2023 11:58 PM (dhxes)

375 @355

>>And...this is something fascinating btw that you can fail, and fail, and fail in a real objective sense and it doesn't matter to a non-trivial number of Americans

It's called The NY Jets Paradox.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 11:58 PM (XV/Pl)

376 Healthcare (the Industry) is no longer about healthcare. It is about profit. That is a generalization, but it is true

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 18, 2023 11:58 PM (q0Hle)

377 I may have misidentified myself.

Posted by: George Coe at September 18, 2023 11:58 PM (43xH1)

378 Don't overlook a geologist's rock hammer. A sharp point, with some decent mass behind it.

*trembles*

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at September 18, 2023 11:58 PM (KFhLj)

379 One of the weirdest moments of my life was realizing that there was no correlation between how hard I worked on anything and the subsequent reward.

I wouldn't quite say that's true.

In the private sector small business owners succeed because they make happy customers who then reference the business to their friends. So it is largely how good of a job you do.

In the government you are dead on...it is ALL who you know. In fact doing too good of whatever nominal a job your areas of the government does can be a big negative come review time.

Corporate America is a hybrid between the two. Want to get promoted? Get on the good side of your manager and your manager's manager AND show them you did something good for the company. If you just do your job well they might never even notice...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 18, 2023 11:59 PM (XqcwY)

380 I like the femur from a large land mammal

Posted by: DB
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Femur? Pfft.
Posted by: Samson, surveying 1000 Philistine bodies at September 18, 2023 11:54 PM (6d1ps)

Beware the lemur femur reamer!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:00 AM (7x1j9)

381 I generally had 800-1200 active patients at a time. I had a nurse, a front desk and a med aide clinical with one part time biller. Never made more than 5 figures a year. No one ever waited for an appointment or a return call more 24 hours.

I went to school when tuition was subsidized so I had no loans to pay back and lived a lifestyle within my means. Most docs today are paying back loans until they’re near retirement. And programmed to live beyond their means. So they have to work a larger and more burdensome load to make ends meet. So patient care sucks.

QED
Posted by: epador'

In old Yugo/Serbia you would be a Nurse Practioner.

Posted by: George Coe at September 19, 2023 12:00 AM (43xH1)

382 "Debris field" found "about two hours northeast" of Joint Base Charleston, possibly from the missing F-35.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:01 AM (Y6AXb)

383 Samsung had a deal (back when they made cars) where employees who bought one could park in the lot next to the building. Other cars had to park 1/4 a mile away and walk.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

The finance guy where I bought my last car was talking about the BMW he just bought.

I was not buying a BMW, nor was I at a BMW dealership.

I guess the Samsung thing didn't catch on. At least for finance guys.

Posted by: mikeski at September 19, 2023 12:02 AM (DgGvY)

384 One of the weirdest moments of my life was realizing that there was no correlation between how hard I worked on anything and the subsequent reward.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 18, 2023 11:53 PM (43xH1)

That's why, despite numerous forays into other fields of employment, I've always come back to bartending.

Compensation is largely dependent on how hard you work for the customer, as opposed for the employer (who also subsequently receives harder work, but which is of tertiary concern).

The average Joe on a barstool grades you on your work effort and compensates you accordingly. In general, they are far better judges of your efforts than your employer.

In a given night, I have anywhere from a dozen to five hundred performance reviews, and it generally works in my favor. My shit-ass 'employers' often go years without assessing my performance and even when it is found favorable, they reward me with a pittance.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 19, 2023 12:02 AM (wAdQF)

385 Don't overlook a geologist's rock hammer. A sharp point, with some decent mass behind it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'
------

It can come in handy.

Posted by: Andy Dufresne at September 19, 2023 12:02 AM (q0Hle)

386 "Debris field" found "about two hours northeast" of Joint Base Charleston, possibly from the missing F-35.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Waiting for photos

Posted by: Andy Dufresne at September 19, 2023 12:04 AM (D9jtQ)

387 Healthcare (the Industry) is no longer about healthcare. It is about profit. That is a generalization, but it is true
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Give them time. In another decade they'll be all about DEI, just like the rest of the industries.

Posted by: mikeski at September 19, 2023 12:04 AM (DgGvY)

388 It can come in handy.
Posted by: Andy Dufresne at September 19, 2023 12:02 AM (q0Hle)

Had to look that up. Never saw the movie, or read the book.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:04 AM (7x1j9)

389 It's not a bug. It's a feature

Posted by: Northrop Grumman at September 19, 2023 12:04 AM (JkeTM)

390 from earlier- North Dakota exists. I was born there and spent 22 years there. Now into my 45th year in Montana.

Posted by: freetibet at September 19, 2023 12:04 AM (2YJnM)

391 Give them time. In another decade they'll be all about DEI, just like the rest of the industries.

They are pretty much already there. The worst of infectious diseases.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 19, 2023 12:06 AM (V8he0)

392 Hmm. There are some photos, that show very little. Wooded area.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:06 AM (D9jtQ)

393 Had to look that up. Never saw the movie, or read the book.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---------

Used a rock hammer to chip, chip, chip his way through his cell wall, in prison.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:08 AM (D9jtQ)

394 Not the Bee has collected some F-35 memes for your viewing pleasure:

https://tinyurl.com/2bwp6xnz

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 19, 2023 12:08 AM (Bd6X8)

395 .."Debris field" found "about two hours northeast" of Joint Base Charleston, possibly from the missing F-35.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:01 AM (Y6AXb)

Sounds like the F-106 Cornfield Bomber I'd mentioned last night's ONT.

The force of the ejection forced the '106's nose down, killing the Flat Spin, and defeating the wing-stall condition. Airspeed restored (but no engine re-start), the plane simply glided in it's "cruise" trim, slightly nose-up, and make the luckiest descent ever, landing neatly wheels-up, into a large cornfield, where it slid to a stop. They actually retrieved and restored the plane to service.

The F-35 sounds like it just cruised post-ejection, to fuel starvation, and agured in? The big story here now will be: Why The Ejection?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 19, 2023 12:08 AM (e6UQI)

396 There's a Mark Twain piece where he was making fun of the French and their pussy "dueling pistols".

"I silently hung one of them on my watch-chain."

Twain suggested axes.

"...he added that he and his principal would enjoy axes, and indeed prefer them, but such weapons were barred by the French code, and so I must change my proposal.

I walked the floor, turning the thing over in my mind, and finally it occurred to me that Gatling-guns at fifteen paces would be a likely way to get a verdict on the field of honor. So I framed this idea into a proposition.

But it was not accepted. The code was in the way again. I proposed rifles; then double-barreled shotguns; then Colt’s navy revolvers. These being all rejected, I reflected awhile, and sarcastically suggested brickbats at three-quarters of a mile. I always hate to fool away a humorous thing on a person who has no perception of humor; and it filled me with bitterness when this man went soberly away to submit the last proposition to his principal.

He came back presently and said his principal was charmed with the idea of brickbats at three-quarters of a mile, but must decline on account of the danger to disinterested parties"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:08 AM (Y6AXb)

397 Debris field" found "about two hours northeast" of Joint Base Charleston, possibly from the missing F-35.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:01 AM (Y6AXb)
I saw that and immediately wondered if that is two hours by car, or by jet plane, or by unladen African Swallow.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 19, 2023 12:09 AM (0zqNr)

398 I don't know if it's equal.

In most cases it's purely transactional. The relationship closely mirrors prostitution. Which is to say the john cares nothing for the prostitute and neither does the prostitute care for the john.
-
I essentially agree with that, I just mean that there are needs on both sides of the ledger getting met by the relationship, and far too often people think of a job as an opportunity a person needs and forget entirely that the employer is getting something out of the arrangement, that something being of considerably greater value to them than the compensation the employee gets or they wouldn't bother offering the position.

Posted by: Methos at September 19, 2023 12:09 AM (Dnobf)

399 Well, I got the other rear wheel cylinder rebuilt on the Hotrod Ford, and new hard lines made up for the lines from the rear wheel cylinders to line Tee on the axle. And I have a new rubber hose from there to the frame. I happened to have a set of hoses that fit a wide variety of Studebakers, and it turns out they fit Ford, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:09 AM (7x1j9)

400 > The F-35 sounds like it just cruised post-ejection, to fuel starvation, and agured in? The big story here now will be: Why The Ejection?

> Jim

Yep. I'm sure Questions are being Asked.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:11 AM (Y6AXb)

401 Used a rock hammer to chip, chip, chip his way through his cell wall, in prison.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:08 AM (D9jtQ)

You'd think the guards might notice that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:12 AM (7x1j9)

402 Used a rock hammer to chip, chip, chip his way through his cell wall, in prison.

Moral of that story is that if you're patient and just keep slowly working at it, you'll only get raped a lot.

Posted by: Andy Dufresne's Aching Asshole at September 19, 2023 12:13 AM (KFhLj)

403 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:01 AM (Y6AXb)
I saw that and immediately wondered if that is two hours by car, or by jet plane, or by unladen African Swallow.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Publius might suggest that it was two time zones away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:13 AM (cALn2)

404 > Hotrod Ford
> Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:09 AM (7x1j9)

I got a hot rod Ford, and a two dollar bill
And I know a spot right over the hill
There's soda pop and the dancing's free
So if you wanna have fun, come along with me

Posted by: Hank Senior at September 19, 2023 12:13 AM (Y6AXb)

405 You'd think the guards might notice that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:12 AM (7x1j9)

It was hidden behind a poster on the wall.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 19, 2023 12:14 AM (aD39U)

406 Waiting for photos
Posted by: Andy Dufresne at September 19, 2023 12:04 AM (D9jtQ)

We'll send em over

Posted by: Chinese 'weather balloon' at September 19, 2023 12:15 AM (+I6Y/)

407 > You'd think the guards might notice that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:12 AM (7x1j9)

Hid it behind a poster of Rita Hayworth (who somehow managed to be smokin' hot without any tattoos or extreme piercings)) .

Yeah, not overly plausible, but a decent story.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:16 AM (Y6AXb)

408
You'd think the guards might notice that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Was covered with a Raquel Welch poster. Forget which.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:16 AM (miw4b)

409
Hid it behind a poster of Rita Hayworth (who somehow managed to be smokin' hot without any tattoos or extreme piercings)) .

Yeah, not overly plausible, but a decent story.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:16 AM (Y6AXb)

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Was covered with a Raquel Welch poster. Forget which.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

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Really? It was Rita Hayworth?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:17 AM (miw4b)

410 One Million Years B.C., IIRC

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 19, 2023 12:17 AM (aD39U)

411 I believe the poster was of Lizzo. It worked onnaccoint of how big it was.

Posted by: Andy Dufresne's Aching Asshole at September 19, 2023 12:19 AM (KFhLj)

412
Times change, and mostly for the better.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 18, 2023 11:52 PM (Y6AXb)

Disagree. Also, reductio ad absurdum with a slice of Mott and Bailey on the side is a poor argument.

A person is owed an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. No more, no less. Now, are current compensation levels massively out of sync with inflation and cost of living? Certainly. No question. Rough napkin estimate most workers would need an immediate thirty percent raise to break even with 1980 pay levels.

On the other hand, being on time is not an unrealistic expectation. Neither is showing up on the days you're supposed to work. I don't consider such concepts to be anachronisms. The widespread inability of Gen Z in particular to grok them is one more item on the growing list of things pointing to the coming collapse of a soft society which has forgotten what time it is.

Posted by: SeaWorldActual at September 19, 2023 12:19 AM (oqlq+)

413 Sounds like the F-106 Cornfield Bomber I'd mentioned last night's ONT.

The force of the ejection forced the '106's nose down, killing the Flat Spin, and defeating the wing-stall condition. Airspeed restored (but no engine re-start), the plane simply glided in it's "cruise" trim, slightly nose-up, and make the luckiest descent ever, landing neatly wheels-up, into a large cornfield, where it slid to a stop. They actually retrieved and restored the plane to service.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

I thought the engine was still running, at idle, after it stopped in the cornfield. In any case, it's now in the Air Force Museum.

Posted by: a.moron at September 19, 2023 12:20 AM (F6Xpw)

414 > Really? It was Rita Hayworth?

Yep. Both the movie and the original story were set in 1947. Raquel would've only been around 7 years old then.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:20 AM (Y6AXb)

415 Hid it behind a poster of Rita Hayworth (who somehow managed to be smokin' hot without any tattoos or extreme piercings)) .

Yeah, not overly plausible, but a decent story.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:16 AM (Y6AXb)

Chipping concrete with a hammer makes a fair amount of noise. And then there is the dust and chips to be disposed of. I remember in the Great Escape, the tunnelers hid dirt inside the legs of their pants, and trickled it out onto the parade ground during exercise time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:21 AM (7x1j9)

416 Had to look that up. Never saw the movie, or read the book.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:04 AM (7x1j9)

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IIRC, the Stephen King novella that was used as the core of the Shawshank movie was called Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 19, 2023 12:21 AM (bQKgA)

417 Yep. Both the movie and the original story were set in 1947. Raquel would've only been around 7 years old then.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Sounds about right.

Posted by: J. Robinette Biden at September 19, 2023 12:22 AM (DgGvY)

418 > Disagree.

> Also, reductio ad absurdum with a slice of Mott and Bailey on the side is a poor argument.

Umm... what? There's never been a generation in the history of mankind that wasn't convinced that Today's Youth were lazy spoiled brats.

It goes back at least until Socrates, but I'm thinking it probably was going on when Oog and Thag were talking about how Today's Youth were spoiled by stone tools rather than using pointed sticks as they did back in their day.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:23 AM (Y6AXb)

419 Well, I got the other rear wheel cylinder rebuilt on the Hotrod Ford, and …

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

AOP,
We will never be bored,
While we listen to your stories of the hot rod Ford …

* sung to the tune of hot rod Lincoln *

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnically Badthink Jokes Critic . . . at September 19, 2023 12:23 AM (4Winp)

420 411 I believe the poster was of Lizzo. It worked on account of how big it was.

Posted by: Andy Dufresne's Aching Asshole at September 19, 2023 12:19 AM (KFhLj)

Help me find my truck keys and we'll drive out of this prison cell.

Posted by: Just the punchline at September 19, 2023 12:23 AM (F6Xpw)

421 While we listen to your stories of the hot rod Ford …

* sung to the tune of hot rod Lincoln *
Posted by: Adriane the Ethnically Badthink Jokes Critic . . . at September 19, 2023 12:23 AM (4Winp)

Well, it might drive me to drinkin'.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:24 AM (7x1j9)

422 Shawshank did poorly in the theaters. The obtuse title probably didn't help.

Wonderful movie though. Greatest ending of just about any film I've seen.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 19, 2023 12:24 AM (bQKgA)

423 Evening.

I think that F-35 might be wandering the skies along with that Malaysian airliner.

Posted by: Robert at September 19, 2023 12:24 AM (mIXjC)

424 417 Yep. Both the movie and the original story were set in 1947. Raquel would've only been around 7 years old then.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Sounds about right.

Posted by: J. Robinette Biden at September 19, 2023 12:22 AM (DgGvY)

Damn! Beat me to it!

Posted by: a.moron at September 19, 2023 12:26 AM (F6Xpw)

425 1994. Was this the first movie with a Morgan Freeman voice over?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 19, 2023 12:26 AM (aD39U)

426 I think that F-35 might be wandering the skies along with that Malaysian airliner.
Posted by: Robert at September 19, 2023 12:24 AM (mIXjC)

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It's up there with the jetliner from Twilight Zone that's trying to get back to 1960s New York.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 19, 2023 12:26 AM (bQKgA)

427 Well, I am going to get an early one. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2023 12:28 AM (7x1j9)

428 ...I thought the engine was still running, at idle, after it stopped in the cornfield. In any case, it's now in the Air Force Museum. Posted by: a.moron at September 19, 2023 12:20 AM (F6Xpw)

You may well be correct on that point, amigo.

My posts were purely from memory, didn't look anything up to refresh my info.

Still. Lucky pilot. LUCKIER airframe!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 19, 2023 12:29 AM (e6UQI)

429 Really? It was Rita Hayworth?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:17 AM (miw4b)

Beauty standards of yesterday. Today it's fat black women ala Lizzo.

Posted by: JmT at September 19, 2023 12:29 AM (ucixH)

430 Yes! Dave Allen. Those skits were hilarious.

Posted by: Teenaged me watching PBS after Monty Python at September 19, 2023 12:32 AM (/BBNv)

431 1994. Was this the first movie with a Morgan Freeman voice over?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)'

No, that would be 'Street Smart':

https://tinyurl.com/u36s852k

But really Morgan Freeman's best work is in Johnny Handsome. He's a right solid bastard in that one.

Posted by: Teenaged me watching PBS after Monty Python at September 19, 2023 12:36 AM (/BBNv)

432 Went and looked it up. Probably was Heyworth in the book, but Welch in the film:
https://tinyurl.com/28dqsw3c

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:37 AM (q0Hle)

433 My favorite Morgan Freeman quote, from Johnny Handsome:

"You might fool this nice lady here, and this fuckin' quack..."

It's his best role.

Ry Cooder soundrack, 'Angola' is a stunning.

Posted by: Teenaged me watching PBS after Monty Python at September 19, 2023 12:39 AM (/BBNv)

434 I'm back at home after walking and have to answer phone calls so I'm a misspelling.

https://tinyurl.com/mt9btrhj

Angola

Posted by: LenNeal at September 19, 2023 12:42 AM (/BBNv)

435 Beauty standards of yesterday. Today it's fat black women ala Lizzo.

Dylan Mulvaney.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 19, 2023 12:42 AM (KFhLj)

436 > Yep. Both the movie and the original story were set in 1947.

My apologies.

The original poster was of Rita Hayworth, but by the time he finally got through the wall, the poster had changed to one of Raquel Welch. I'd forgotten that detail.

Digging through the wall took a while.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2023 12:43 AM (Y6AXb)

437 In the film it was Hayworth first, but then Red gave Andy a Raquel Welch poster that he used to replace the Rita Hayworth one.

A subtle sign of the passage of the years.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 19, 2023 12:43 AM (bQKgA)

438 Healthcare has always been profit-driven in this country. In years past, it seems that most patients thought the return was pretty good. Now almost all health care providers work for, and hospitals are owned by, large corporations who have embraced ObamyCare EMR with gusto. We are just data points for profit, and many physicians and nurses spend an inordinate amount of time as data entry clerks. Might embrace DEI-haha; most medical schools are committed to 25% minority admissions, regardless of qualifications. What's not to like?

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at September 19, 2023 12:44 AM (mCh4j)

439 Ry Cooder soundrack, 'Angola' is a stunning.
Posted by: Teenaged me

Unless you get sent there

Posted by: Aaron Neville at September 19, 2023 12:44 AM (tbtUD)

440 I'll take your Dave Allen and raise you a Norm McDonald.

Posted by: JmT at September 19, 2023 12:45 AM (ucixH)

441 More hobos have been felled by a tactical tomahawk than any other melee weapon. Go with a classic.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 19, 2023 12:46 AM (fY84s)

442 376 Healthcare (the Industry) is no longer about healthcare. It is about profit. That is a generalization, but it is true
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 18, 2023 11:58 PM (q0Hle)

Well, in my case, there is little health for which to care, so…

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 12:48 AM (DCsOE)

443 Lyrics working back in my brain:

As I was motorvatin' over the hill
I saw Maybellene in a Coupe de Ville
A Cadillac a-rollin' on the open road
Nothin' will outrun my V8 Ford
The Cadillac doin' about ninety-five
She's bumper to bumper, rollin' side by side

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:51 AM (miw4b)

444 A bridge across Bering Strait would be possible, but no doubt very costly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 18, 2023 10:29 PM (7x1j9)

It would be like the Flagler Key West Extension, but with continuous hurricane force winds. And pack ice. With icebergs.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 19, 2023 12:53 AM (iZPr8)

445 In an ever increasingly hate filled, Marxist country like the United States, profit is seen as a bad thing. Even in medicine. (Can we stop saying “health care”? No one sees a DOCTOR because they go to a hospital complaining of BEING HEALTHY.). Especially in medicine.

To me this is crap. If I am cured of what is ailing me now, the DOCTOR or DOCTORS or clinics or hospitals or pharmaceutical companies responsible deserve a big fat profit. DOCTORS, nurses, med techs, and so on actually do need to eat, so I don’t begrudge what they make, unlike my fellow citizens who seem to think they need to work for minimum wage or less.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 12:56 AM (DCsOE)

446 More hobos have been felled by a tactical tomahawk than any other melee weapon. Go with a classic.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 19, 2023 12:46 AM (fY84s)

Really? Clubs have killed many more.

Posted by: JmT at September 19, 2023 12:57 AM (ucixH)

447 I went to work on a hillbilly roofing crew from the Hills for cash, used the money I made to finance drug deals'

It's a long story. I don't know, I need to send Orange ent examples of the translations I do and have done. I'm a person who just likes certain pursuits, and I do international language translations like AOP likes brake lines on Studebakers. I did indeed make a lot of money financing drug deals. Not selling drugs: that is a fool's game. The finance is where the money is.
Once you start financing the appetite of Americans for drugs there is genuinely no limit. The money can't be controlled. It gets abstract.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 19, 2023 12:57 AM (/BBNv)

448 We should maybe come up with another term for a strait. Strait sounds very cis-normative and probably hurts the feelings of LGBTQWERTY+ folks in their travels.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 19, 2023 12:58 AM (KFhLj)

449 Ry Cooder soundrack, 'Angola' is a stunning.
Posted by: Teenaged me

Unless you get sent there
Posted by: Aaron Neville'

Everyone liked me fine.

Posted by: Aaron Neville's Mole at September 19, 2023 12:59 AM (/BBNv)

450 74 Evening Horde, thx MisHum. Seems to me that the UAW is yelling at the CEO's of the car companies for the wrong reason. The are yelling about the bosses big salaries , when they should be yelling about the bosses being in bed with the Biden administration on their insane ev push. The ev push will end the UAW and autoworkers in general.

The big shots of the US auto industry have screwed up their industry and this country worse than nearly anyone else. It has been mostly forgotten that before they got going on the current steady decline around 1970 the foreigners wished they could afford to be US as far as cars went. Foreign cars were a weird cult. The big shots went along with all the govt regulations cause it was a good excuse to jack up the car prices. With the leverage the Big Three used to have you can't tell me the politicians could have "forced" them to do anything. And now the big shots must have been paid enough that they are fine with destroying what is left of their industry with EVs.

Posted by: Azjaeger at September 19, 2023 01:01 AM (3/XaG)

451 More hobos have been felled by a tactical tomahawk than any other melee weapon. Go with a classic.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 19, 2023 12:46 AM (fY84s)

Really? Clubs have killed many more.
Posted by: JmT at September 19, 2023 12:57 AM (ucixH)

I am the hobo killer.

Posted by: Sterno at September 19, 2023 01:01 AM (aD39U)

452 I am the hobo killer.
Posted by: Sterno

Koo-koo-achoo!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 19, 2023 01:03 AM (IG4Id)

453 Old hobos never die, they just fade away. And leave a greasy stain and fetid stench in their wake.

Posted by: Gen. George S Patabutter at September 19, 2023 01:04 AM (KFhLj)

454 You know what I did with the money? Nothing.
I did nothing with it. I lived in an old house, a 2-unit, with a family tenant.From whom I didn't even need the money.
It was abstract. I had old ammo cans overflowing with cash, I think the most money I spread out once was maybe... $50K? I'm not sure. It was meaningless and I could not extract it and just leave. Suitcases full of money.
It wasn't dealing, that's dumb. It was the finance and it just went into abstraction.

Posted by: Aaron Neville's Mole at September 19, 2023 01:04 AM (/BBNv)

455 To me this is crap. If I am cured of what is ailing me now, the DOCTOR or DOCTORS or clinics or hospitals or pharmaceutical companies responsible deserve a big fat profit.
--------

Really? So a $5,000.00 dollar billing is justifiable for ER and two days in a bed? A $12,000.00 bill for a surgery is justifiable when in the rest of the civilized world it would be $4000?

The SAME pharmaceuticals that cost $30.00 elsewhere should cost $150.00 here? If you think the money is going to the on-the-ground medical people, you are very wrong.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 01:04 AM (nEklA)

456 So why is it that the relationship between employee and employer is a confrontational, antagonistic one?

Logic says that equal respect will result to the benefit of both. It should be a partnership that enjoys mutual benefit.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 19, 2023 01:06 AM (KATBx)

457 I am the hobo killer.
Posted by: weft cut-loop'

Pussy.

Posted by: A-1 at September 19, 2023 01:06 AM (/BBNv)

458 So why is it that the relationship between employee and employer is a confrontational, antagonistic one?

Logic says that equal respect will result to the benefit of both. It should be a partnership that enjoys mutual benefit.
Posted by: irongrampa'

Because that is not how human beings, simians, work.

Posted by: Chimpanzees say you are one of us at September 19, 2023 01:08 AM (/BBNv)

459 Blunt blows to the head is the most common cause of murder. Bludgeoning in other words.

Posted by: JmT at September 19, 2023 01:08 AM (ucixH)

460 So NM Governess "changes" her order to apply to parks and playgrounds, because...
I mean, if the previous order is unconstitutional on its face narrowing the public space geography ain't gonna make it so.

Also, does this imply she believes that most kids are killed by guns in parks and playgrounds?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 19, 2023 01:09 AM (ynpvh)

461 Also, does this imply she believes that most kids are killed by guns in parks and playgrounds?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)'

I'm pretty sure, based on my life experience, that most killings of children are done by their own mothers who are simply sick of them and want to move on.
Or find them burdensome.

Posted by: Chimpanzees say you are one of us at September 19, 2023 01:12 AM (/BBNv)

462 I though the real Hobo Killer was Soap, a Job and Bills to Pay.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 19, 2023 01:12 AM (e6UQI)

463 Also, does this imply she believes that most kids are killed by guns in parks and playgrounds?
Posted by: jim
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She doesn't believe any of it. She's merely testing the (current) limits of expanded authoritarian control. Slowly boiling the frog.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 01:13 AM (oLF0J)

464 Also, does this imply she believes that most kids are killed by guns in parks and playgrounds?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 19, 2023 01:09 AM (ynpvh)

(In a shrill voice) "It's for the children!"

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 19, 2023 01:14 AM (0zqNr)

465 She doesn't believe any of it. She's merely testing the (current) limits of expanded authoritarian control. Slowly boiling the frog.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'

This. It's a trial balloon.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 19, 2023 01:15 AM (/BBNv)

466 I though the real Hobo Killer was Soap, a Job and Bills to Pay.

Jim

heh

Amateurs

Posted by: Ace's hobo jerky procesor at September 19, 2023 01:15 AM (tbtUD)

467 Oh damn.
I had the most comments this week. And that's while being sick the last x days too...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 19, 2023 01:16 AM (ynpvh)

468 Ace is good about the Hobo Harvest.

Both Vespas and Crocs can be bought for cash, and disposed of.

Posted by: Ace's friend with a an F-150 at September 19, 2023 01:17 AM (tbtUD)

469 I don't care what you think you ain't ridin' my rails. I'll do an axe and chain fight on the top of a car. We'll see who wins.

Posted by: Shack at September 19, 2023 01:17 AM (/BBNv)

470 Scooter Pooling

We know who'll get hit first in a head-on accident, don't we.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 19, 2023 01:18 AM (ynpvh)

471 well, feeling better, but still not 100%. I'm out. Good night all.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 19, 2023 01:20 AM (ynpvh)

472 She doesn't believe any of it. She's merely testing the (current) limits of expanded authoritarian control. Slowly boiling the frog.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'

Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu have entered the chat.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 19, 2023 01:20 AM (0zqNr)

473 Scooter Pooling

I read that as "pooter schooling".

These days, who knows

Posted by: shrugging like a Frenchman at September 19, 2023 01:21 AM (tbtUD)

474 Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu have entered the chat.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

https://tinyurl.com/52ryz5ve

Posted by: Nikolai got de Blues at September 19, 2023 01:24 AM (tbtUD)

475 Well, at the office I share I did a lot of work on Corel WordPerfect today and I'm actually liking it a great deal. It does do stuff most new programs don't do. I tested a few things and honestly, I can see why it retains a small but dedicated following.
More of a Pixy kind of thing but yeah, it's a very versatile program that I'm not sure is matched by anything else right now. I can see why people stick with it.

Posted by: Shack at September 19, 2023 01:24 AM (/BBNv)

476 Well, at the office I share I did a lot of work on Corel WordPerfect today

Yu fergot the 17995$ per month from home part.

Posted by: Fact checker Lotus 1-2-3 (which would be a good Blues song) at September 19, 2023 01:28 AM (tbtUD)

477 The cats await.

Posted by: Why are you not in bed you degenerate at September 19, 2023 01:28 AM (/BBNv)

478 Yu fergot the 17995$ per month from home part.
Posted by: Fact checker Lotus 1-2-3 (which would be a good Blues song)'

FUCK! No making partner, Abraham Goldstein and Associates in Beverly Hills will never sign off on their fat daughter now.

Posted by: The only people left who use WordPerfect at September 19, 2023 01:31 AM (/BBNv)

479 I used to use the knockoff ... Word Star.

Freeware, FTW!

All of it Pre Windows, keyboard coded stuff for marking and formatting. The Cheat Sheet cards were indispensable!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 19, 2023 01:35 AM (e6UQI)

480 Don't call my Mama
'Cause I won't come back no mo

Don't tell mama
She drinking the last
Of my daddy's sterno

Posted by: Blind Lemon Miklos at September 19, 2023 01:40 AM (tbtUD)

481 Those were the days my friend …

Posted by: Adriane the IBM DCFP FTW Critic . . . at September 19, 2023 01:41 AM (4Winp)

482 Hot topic here, much more dangerous than the Civil War, etc. From repetitive anecdotal experience, in my AO, employers can’t get consistent help. Because of what I have been doing for a living, I am in daily contact with restaurants, retail chains, small shop keepers etc.

Every day I encounter companies, even national chains, that can’t provide their services to the public because they don’t have the staff. Major chains have to cut hours or services because they don’t have workers, or the workers did not show up for work.

There could be myriad reasons from poor wages, jerk bosses, mass illegal immigration etc. I certainly don’t have the answer. But it is clear to me a lot of retail industries flat out can’t staff their businesses to provide the service they proclaim.

That one issue is many entry level workers are unreliable these days does not seem far fetched to me.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 01:42 AM (lukRE)

483 Lotus 1-2-3

baby like you and me

return to

YOU AND ME GIRL

Posted by: Early Jackson 5 progamming lyrics at September 19, 2023 01:45 AM (tbtUD)

484 Those were the days my friend …
Posted by: Adriane the IBM DCFP FTW Critic

I always knew they would end.

Probably any minute.

Posted by: The Unbearable Lightness of Miklos Being at September 19, 2023 01:48 AM (tbtUD)

485 Sorry, but I take aircraft mishaps seriously.
Posted by: GWB'

So do we!

Posted by: Serbs with Chinese Help at September 19, 2023 01:51 AM (/BBNv)

486 FUCK!

Johnathan Livingston Miklos just shit all over my screen!

Ima ask Weasel what size shot for Seagull?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 19, 2023 01:52 AM (e6UQI)

487 Johnathan Livingston Miklos just shit all over my screen!

That is like, so, 70s, dude

Posted by: The Zen of Miklosian Motorcycle Maintenance at September 19, 2023 01:55 AM (tbtUD)

488 Hot topic here, much more dangerous than the Civil War, etc.'

Interesting point. I work where a lot of people do 'entry level' positions where one learns basic stuff like showing up to work on time, discipline, etc. My take is these kinds of positions, and, I ran my own business for quite a while, and regard people not so much as 'employees' as more as 'co-workers' who make less than you as they don't have the same responsibility. The big issue, for me, is the lack of basic skills being taught to vulnerable population; and telling everyone (I taught school under and emergency rider: I did not need a degree) that if you don't Go To College you are lower than a worm's dick.

Posted by: Serbs with Chinese Help at September 19, 2023 01:58 AM (/BBNv)

489 Really? So a $5,000.00 dollar billing is justifiable for ER and two days in a bed? A $12,000.00 bill for a surgery is justifiable when in the rest of the civilized world it would be $4000? (You left out the part where that is determined by the local police.)

The SAME pharmaceuticals that cost $30.00 elsewhere should cost $150.00 here? If you think the money is going to the on-the-ground medical people, you are very wrong. (Also missing: that price is set by the local police. I keep hearing how presciption drugs are so cheap in Canada. Missing is the fact that this is due to government subsidies. Americans really are very comfortable with socialism. Or they are naive.)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 01:04 AM (n

The Other Countries crowd has entered the chat.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 01:58 AM (DCsOE)

490 Manufacturing in USA was corrupt as Hell and was abusive and full of all kinds of problems. The alternative has turned out to be worse and has hit Blacks the hardest.

Posted by: Works in a failed factory town. at September 19, 2023 02:00 AM (/BBNv)

491 After rereading quote 1, it is pretty damn absurd. Neither the employer or employee should give fealty. A smart employer rewards employees who make his business succeed. No one owes anyone anything. Bad businesses should fail and even employees can start better businesses. At least that is how it is supposed to work.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 02:00 AM (lukRE)

492 ..That is like, so, 70s, dude. Posted by: The Zen of Miklosian Motorcycle Maintenance at September 19, 2023 01:55 AM (tbtUD)

'70s cults say B'ahai!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 19, 2023 02:01 AM (e6UQI)

493 489: P.S. you do NOT want to see my medical bills, and what I have to pay per month to walk upright. It would be nice to have something called a "market", or "price transparency" - the thing that drives down the cost for my eyeglasses. But Americans have consistently said they absolutely do not want this so we can't get the things that drive prices down. Instead, Americans want the police to continue to set prices. And do not kid yourself, the police DO set prices.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 02:01 AM (DCsOE)

494 The Other Countries crowd has entered the chat.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33'

My visits to 'clinics' in Serbia that cost USD$10 plus a few painkillers would have been at least USD$2,000+ in the USA.
No MRIs, nothing like that.
USA 'health care' is bloated beyond anything moral.

Posted by: Works in a failed factory town. at September 19, 2023 02:03 AM (/BBNv)

495 Or they are naive.)
Posted by: Mike Hammer

My first and only prescription med in 30 years is $700/month.

I should sue my own blood clots.

Posted by: Need archie Bunker's lawyer, Angus Goldstein at September 19, 2023 02:03 AM (tbtUD)

496 in the rest of the civilized world'

Define this?

Posted by: Seen 'Europe' at its worst at September 19, 2023 02:05 AM (/BBNv)

497 '70s cults say B'ahai!

Jim

I may have a copy of "The Five Minute Jim Manager" somewhere

Posted by: at least the clots are not in my brain, unlike some "presidents" I could mention at September 19, 2023 02:06 AM (tbtUD)

498 A Serbian colleague was devastated when her father, who went to great trouble to get German citizenship, when diagnosed with a degenerative issue at 73, wasn't given any treatment at all, just painkillers and was sent home to die by German Health Care.

She was horrified.

Posted by: Seen 'Europe' at its worst at September 19, 2023 02:09 AM (/BBNv)

499 A Serbian friend's father was quite happy.

He bought a house for an agreed c. 50,000 USD

Due to Yugoflation, only paid about 500.

Posted by: Miklos was there at September 19, 2023 02:17 AM (tbtUD)

500 Good evening morons and thanks mh for an interesting ONT

Health care premium and out-of-pocket is over $2500/month for me and Mrs. F.

Neither of us are over 60 or have chronic illnesses b"h

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:18 AM (eR2aG)

501 500

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:18 AM (eR2aG)

502 Really? It was Rita Hayworth?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2023 12:17 AM (miw4b)

The original title of the short story/novella, by Stephen King, from which the movie was based is "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption".

Posted by: RickZ at September 19, 2023 02:20 AM (emlEe)

503 One reason your co-pays are so large is because the no-pays are on your bill.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:21 AM (eR2aG)

504 IIRC, the Stephen King novella that was used as the core of the Shawshank movie was called Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 19, 2023 12:21 AM (bQKgA)

{SIGH} Days late and a trillion short.

Posted by: RickZ at September 19, 2023 02:21 AM (emlEe)

505 Peter Morici. I like Peter Morici. Ford's not going to hire those 800 workers. Robots will build gas Fords in Detroit or Kansas and Chinese will build electric Fords in China.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 19, 2023 02:22 AM (fNmwV)

506 Health care premium and out-of-pocket is over $2500/month for me and Mrs. F.

Neither of us are over 60 or have chronic illnesses b"h
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I would write to ObamaCare.fu

Posted by: Miklos tries at September 19, 2023 02:23 AM (tbtUD)

507 488 we were all sold the college bit. I went to college and am glad if it, it is part of who I am. But if it were today, I would choose Hillsdale or nothing.

Better to join the service and gain respect and benefits for a lifetime college grads will never have. Better to learn a valuable trade you can sell to college grads with no skills. And the best part is you can serve in the military, become a veteran and then decide if college is right for you. Same with skilled trades, learn a skill people will pay you for and then decide about college.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 02:23 AM (lukRE)

508 Really? It was Rita Hayworth?

Posted by: Mike Hammer

Suck that

Or these

Posted by: Mamie van Doren at September 19, 2023 02:25 AM (tbtUD)

509
Why does it take so long to book an appointment with your doctor?
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I pay a vig. Appointments on time, wait time no more than five minutes.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 19, 2023 02:26 AM (fNmwV)

510 Obamacare saves us $2500/year according to the Lightbringer, h8er.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:26 AM (eR2aG)

511 Greetings from Frankfurt!!!

Forced to stay here overnight on what was supposed to be a connecting flight back to NYC. We taxied away from the gate and then developed a mechanical issue. The flight was canceled and the airline put us all up in a hotel ( which is where I am now).

Rebooked my flight and am taking the same flight home.

I am flying business class for the first time since 1994 when a former company flew me to Hong Kong to work a couple of months. It has definitely changed.
Looking forward to experiencing it in the air. 🤣

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 19, 2023 02:26 AM (4Uc0a)

512 Modern "healthcare" monthly costs?

Call me a Refusenik.

I made my Gen Med Dr. of 15 yrs bill me, when they stopped taking cash. I mailed in CASH, with the "Legal Tender for All Debts, Public and Private" highlighted on the bills.

Ain't heard shit back in return.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 19, 2023 02:28 AM (e6UQI)

513 Airline hotels give me nightmares

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:28 AM (eR2aG)

514 Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 02:23 AM (lukRE)

Service will build your self respect, but is not necessarily good economically.

It's a crap shoot, depending on your career. As an Electronics computer type? now? you won't even get past HR without a degree.... UNLESS you have an active security clearance.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 19, 2023 02:29 AM (TcT+v)

515 513 Posted by: San Franpsycho

This one is quite nice. Very clean and had a delicious dinner and now breakfast.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 19, 2023 02:32 AM (4Uc0a)

516 There could be myriad reasons from poor wages, jerk bosses, mass illegal immigration etc. I certainly don’t have the answer. But it is clear to me a lot of retail industries flat out can’t staff their businesses to provide the service they proclaim.

That one issue is many entry level workers are unreliable these days does not seem far fetched to me.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 01:42 AM (lukRE)

One of the issues I constantly read from retail workers is Ken/Karens. Entitled shoppers. There is entitlement everywhere now.

I've worked in chain/independent restaurants/shops and what I see today appalls me. Once, I was at a nearby MickeyD's in the evening and the person 'taking my order' had a large fry hanging out of her mouth like a cigarette. She's probably getting paid the same minimum wage as the best worker, too.

Posted by: RickZ at September 19, 2023 02:36 AM (emlEe)

517 F35 crash was likely a software issue.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 10:23 PM (MeG8a)
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We have a winner Give the man a Kewpie Doll!

Worse than you think:

https://tinyurl.com/5hcv7mza

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 19, 2023 02:36 AM (5cNfZ)

518 I'd expect Frankfurt to be nicer than the slums and ghettos where I traveled

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:36 AM (eR2aG)

519 Actually the human wastage I saw on the Vegas Strip today was remarkable even for me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:39 AM (eR2aG)

520 Actually the human wastage I saw on the Vegas Strip today was remarkable even for me.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:39 AM (eR2aG)
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I would think it would be small trimmings compared to SF. Is it worse? Or are you talking about the gamblers and the naughty people?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 19, 2023 02:40 AM (5cNfZ)

521 503 true. And people from all countries come to the US for health care when the chips are down and they can afford it. Did you see the latest news on the UK NHS? They are now bragging that the 18 month wait list for health care line is down, but the 12 month wait line for surgery is up.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 02:43 AM (lukRE)

522 Better to join the service and gain respect and benefits for a lifetime college grads will never have. Better to learn a valuable trade you can sell to college grads with no skills. And the best part is you can serve in the military, become a veteran and then decide if college is right for you. Same with skilled trades, learn a skill people will pay you for and then decide about college.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 02:23 AM (lukRE)

It's cute that you think military service is valued by employers.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 02:45 AM (DCsOE)

523 Well, like any city it depends where you go. I've come to Vegas annually at least for 20 years, and parts of the Strip are as bad as the Tenderloin.

No tents or RVs tho.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:46 AM (eR2aG)

524 521 503 true. And people from all countries come to the US for health care when the chips are down and they can afford it. Did you see the latest news on the UK NHS? They are now bragging that the 18 month wait list for health care line is down, but the 12 month wait line for surgery is up.
Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 02:43 AM (lukRE)

And you MUST BE HEALTHY to get health care from the NHS. I cannot emphasize that enough. YOU. MUST. BE. HEALTHY.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 02:47 AM (DCsOE)

525 No I'm talking about hobos, drug addicts, psychopaths, and street hustlers

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 19, 2023 02:47 AM (eR2aG)

526 Got the new hard drive in, got the, unexpected, new Windows 7 installed then searched form my old programs. Every program I have on an image they want money for. Or it's unavailable.

When tucows was in business one could get a ten year old program. BRAVE goes all the way back to Windows 10 and it appears no one has back issues - same with several other programs. Only two I could find were Opera & FireFox and they suck Google's... well, it ain't even the hind tit.

Out with the old and in with the new.
History begins when you get up in the morning.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 19, 2023 02:47 AM (fNmwV)

527 514 Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 02:23 AM (lukRE)

Service will build your self respect, but is not necessarily good economically.

It's a crap shoot, depending on your career. As an Electronics computer type? now? you won't even get past HR without a degree.... UNLESS you have an active security clearance.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 19, 2023 02:29 AM (TcT+v)

You could have stopped at HR.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 02:49 AM (DCsOE)

528 524 521 503 true. And people from all countries come to the US for health care when the chips are down and they can afford it. Did you see the latest news on the UK NHS? They are now bragging that the 18 month wait list for health care line is down, but the 12 month wait line for surgery is up.
Posted by: Quint
----

I'd be dead three times.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 19, 2023 02:49 AM (fNmwV)

529 I was never a huge Germany fan. I didn’t spend much time there as I was on a guided trip. We did get robbed in Heidelberg, at least our bus did. I have always been into Southern Europe, France, Italy, Spain, and Greece.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 02:50 AM (lukRE)

530 Say what you will about Southern Europeans they were the driving force against the barbarians from the East and from North Africa.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 19, 2023 02:55 AM (fNmwV)

531 That's the thing about the Conquistadors when they hit the new world. They were battle hardened from the age fourteen up.
They didn't come from boot camp they came victorious from another war.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 19, 2023 02:57 AM (fNmwV)

532 My service in the military was small compared to others including my own family. I joined at 17 and even today, many decades later, I am receiving needed benefits. Look I know the military under Milley is messed up, but that can and will change. I remember when respected men told me to leave the service because Clinton was in charge.

I say the yutes today greatly underestimate serving in the military for even a short time. No other choice will give you the same benefits or respect for the rest of your life. I am not prosthelyzing, it is my legit opinion. Young people should consider it more; and fully understand the benefits. I think this is not being taught.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 02:59 AM (lukRE)

533 I'd be dead three times.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 19, 2023 02:49 AM (fNmwV)

I had my long-scheduled ICD battery replacement procedure during the early COVID-1984 Dempanic lockdown (blue stater); I wasn't sure I was going to have the procedure or not. 'Or not' was pretty much a death sentence, considering the 'strength' of my heart.

As a kid, my parents were lower middle class. Dad retired Navy. Mom chipping in with a part-time job at a walking distance Roses Five & Dime. When I had recurring ear aches and sore throats, my Mom was able to afford going to an ENT guy, foregoing the usual Public Health Hospital. (I never saw the same doctor twice until the ENT guy, at 7-years-old.) Then I had a tonsillectomy. She could afford to take me to the doctor I needed to see for recurring problems instead of 'free care'. The bank was not broken and the other bills were paid. Different time.

Posted by: RickZ at September 19, 2023 03:06 AM (emlEe)

534 You had a good and loving mom.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 19, 2023 03:12 AM (fNmwV)

535 514, 527

I was 11B, I would tell a yute today to join right out of high school and let them pay you for a marketable skill, they have them. That is my legit best play. They need troops so much they are paying enlistment bonuses thirty times what I received.

They will also basically pay for college later through the GI bill. To be honest I am shocked how young people today, and their parents don’t even consider the military. The numbers they are throwing at possible recruits today would have brung in half of generation X.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 03:15 AM (lukRE)

536 It's cute that you think military service is valued by employers.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 02:45 AM (DCsOE)

Small town vs. big town thing....

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 19, 2023 03:17 AM (TcT+v)

537 They will also basically pay for college later through the GI bill. To be honest I am shocked how young people today, and their parents don’t even consider the military. The numbers they are throwing at possible recruits today would have brung in half of generation X.
Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 03:15 AM (lukRE)

It is simple. The younger generation saw how the US government sent us to die... but did not allow us to win....

why the hell join that?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 19, 2023 03:19 AM (TcT+v)

538 Quint, I never served, was just a Navy brat. I hear you. But the young men and women joining today are at great risk of needlessly dying in some bullshit half-assed war for our corrupt government/military/industrial complex of which they are only a money-making cog. It saddens me greatly to say that. Not to mention, the enlisted/lower ranks cannot fix that corruption. My young memories of war pretty much start with Khe Sanh (age 11). I've seen the stupid shit we've done for a long time, which mostly means Dems cutting and running. Even Gulf War I, though a victory, was still half-assed as Saddam remained in power. The Afghan withdrawal debacle was just crappy icing on a shit cake.

Currently, our form of Government is extremely schizophrenic, wildly lurching back and forth like a drunken sailor on leave. I, I just can't see it being worth the risk in these troubling times. I respect those young people who do still serve, but I fear for them because of our corrupt, inept and corrosive government where We the People nor The Constitution no longer matter. IMHO, it's that bad. And to serve under that corruption? A fool's journey.

Posted by: RickZ at September 19, 2023 03:22 AM (emlEe)

539 You had a good and loving mom.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 19, 2023 03:12 AM (fNmwV)

Would ya stop cuttin' those damn onions?

Posted by: RickZ at September 19, 2023 03:23 AM (emlEe)

540 522, I am still receiving benefits from something I did three decades ago. We can have a difference of opinion, but mine does not require reading other people’s minds. My opinion is people underestimate the value and rewards of military service. I can back this opinion up with lots of details, but I am not up for it tonight.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 03:27 AM (lukRE)

541 536 It's cute that you think military service is valued by employers.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 02:45 AM (DCsOE)

Small town vs. big town thing....
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 19, 2023 03:17 AM (TcT+v)

A potential employer in one of these sainted small towns interviewed me for a position and I found out through the grapevine that I was against three other people. Well, I, the veteran, was passed over for someone else who proved to be incompentent after three months. Same employer went back to the well and hired...someone else. She was chronically late, and was eventually fired for theft. Then they decided not to fill the position at all. And that's just one example.

People will pay for veteran's meals in restaurants, but the thought of hiring them causes people to balk.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 03:31 AM (DCsOE)

542 Quint, I get it, I really do. My Dad and his four brothers all survived WWII. My Dad ended up a 22-year CPO. There are benefits to be had, for sure. But today there is a very different risk-reward analysis that must be calculated. Not trying to talk down but today's woke military is not your military.

Posted by: RickZ at September 19, 2023 03:32 AM (emlEe)

543 540 522, I am still receiving benefits from something I did three decades ago. We can have a difference of opinion, but mine does not require reading other people’s minds. My opinion is people underestimate the value and rewards of military service. I can back this opinion up with lots of details, but I am not up for it tonight.
Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 03:27 AM (lukRE)

I agree with you and don't regret my time in the military. What I AM saying is that I know that, and you know that, but that has translated to jack and shit in the civilian world. Hell, my father had to bounce from temp job to temp job when he was done with Army life, and he was an optician. The civilian world turned up their noses at him just the same. For all the support the country claims to give veterans, they simply will not consider them for jobs.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 19, 2023 03:36 AM (DCsOE)

544 Probably more by Vets themselves

Posted by: Skip at September 19, 2023 03:37 AM (fwDg9)

545 Morning, insomniacals,

Big black Stirling cat woke me early. That is to say, when I drifted up out of sleep, I could have gone back down, but Stirling started walking across me and then started his milk-treading. I didn't have the heart to push him off. Once he quit, I was awake. C'est la vie avec les chats.

Anyway: 'Tis a little drier outside, and I hope my workout will be good in about 45 minutes. In the meantime I'll have some coffee and pack my lunch.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 19, 2023 03:38 AM (omVj0)

546
Bad guy has cut Cannon's brake line. He's gonna wreck another Lincoln Continental....

Posted by: Publius on stupid phone at September 19, 2023 03:39 AM (Mzdiz)

547 538 Rick, I hear you buddy. Even I am walking a fine line, I could argue it ether way. I am disgusted by the so called leaders and what they have done. But I know, in general, the nation respects vets like no one else.

I think someone should point that out because so few consider the service today. I personally think that is a mistake because so few other choices can give you the societal rewards that last a lifetime.

Make no mistake, you know me I think, in know way do I defend the leftists who run the military today. Again I was warned off service during Clinton, by good men. I wish I had not listened to them.

In the end, the world is screwed up for sure. Considering the broad subject of jobs and opportunity, I think military service should be considered. I have seen too many times when even a short service rewards you later in life. Damn few civilian jobs can say that.

And as per civilian employers, shit, I have never seen more parking spots at businesses set aside for vets. Nah, people in general still respect the military, if nothing else.

Posted by: Quint at September 19, 2023 03:42 AM (lukRE)

548 " to locate the F-35, focusing on the Northern area of the base surrounding Lake Moultrie and Lake Marion,"

"LAKEs" is the operative word.

Posted by: Ciampino -- NTP, STP, it's not the same? at September 19, 2023 03:42 AM (qfLjt)

549 Bad guy has cut Cannon's brake line. He's gonna wreck another Lincoln Continental....
Posted by: Publius on stupid phone at September 19, 2023

***
I got up too late to watch all of it, but the third episode of Mannix was on before -- the first season, when he worked for the computerized firm Intertect. I wish they'd run that show at 3 am here instead of Barnaby Jones. That one had its moments but they are into the third or fourth run of the entire show now. Time for something new, or old.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 19, 2023 03:46 AM (omVj0)

550 Bad guy has cut Cannon's brake line. He's gonna wreck another Lincoln Continental....
Posted by: Publius on stupid

I know guys who can fix that

Posted by: Lincoln fan (not Abe) at September 19, 2023 03:49 AM (tbtUD)

551 MeTv will eventually change the lineup. I'm betting the end of the year.

Posted by: Publius on stupid phone at September 19, 2023 03:50 AM (Mzdiz)

552 Fat man did some fancy driving.

Insurance companies have some special PI rates, I'd imagine.

Posted by: Publius on stupid phone at September 19, 2023 03:52 AM (Mzdiz)

553 75 People live in ND? I thought it was a sort of demilitarized zone between us and Canada.

"Fargo" was filmed in Brainerd, MN. Why not film it in Fargo if Fargo is real?
Posted by: mikeski at September 18, 2023 10:18 PM (DgGvY)

Everybody knows North Dakota isn't real.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 18, 2023 10:20 PM (m9hmt)
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North Dakota state slogan: "The Other South Dakota".

Posted by: Ciampino --- NTP, STP, it's not the same? at September 19, 2023 03:57 AM (qfLjt)

554 NOOD Pixy

Posted by: Ciampino --- NTP, STP, it's not the same? at September 19, 2023 04:05 AM (qfLjt)

555 The UAW does not give a wet crap about the workers in those plants. They care about getting that hour of pay for doing nothing that the members have taken out of their checks.

The UAW is a huge business that produces nothing but contracts that siphon money from Corporations and their employees with little to no risk to themselves. Like strike pay is a joke.

What this strike tells me is that the UAW knows its business model is failing and is destined to diminish. They want to bleed as much money out of the Big 3 as they can while they still have leverage.

GM in particular already uses cheap parts that fail at 70K miles to stay competitive. Who is gonna pay Mercedes prices for GM quality? Nobody.

The UAW knows they are killing off these manufacturers. They just want to suck as much money from them as they can without regard for the workers.

Posted by: thesgm at September 19, 2023 06:47 AM (H1P4c)

556 "Sure. We all misplace and/or lose things. One would think there would be some type of location beacon in a multi-million dollar airplane. Just thinkin' outloud."
There is. Electronic devices sometimes fail. y'know?
A spokesperson for the base told the Washington Post that the plane’s transponder, used to locate it in situations like these, wasn’t operating “for some reason that we haven’t yet determined,” adding there were no additional updates to share on Monday morning.

Posted by: Moses Lambert at September 19, 2023 07:29 AM (z7rLQ)

557 And people from all countries come to the US for health care when the chips are down and they can afford it. Did you see the latest news on the UK NHS? They are now bragging that the 18 month wait list for health care line is down, but the 12 month wait line for surgery is up.
Posted by: Quint

If it's not severe(i.e you dont need a surgery RIGHT NOW) then Europe might be better, but I'd rather pay up and get my help when I actually need it with our healthcare. Imagine waiting 2 years for surgery?! What if you need it right now?! Absolutely ridiculous. And we talking UK with actually okay healthcare level, can't imagine what's happening in something like Serbia or other eastern Europe countries...

Posted by: Sitka at September 19, 2023 08:02 AM (l9+zO)

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