Did Disney Actually Make <i>Any</i> Money On Its Terrible Star Wars Movies?

Did Disney Actually Make Any Money On Its Terrible Star Wars Movies?

Valliant Renegade looks into the financial filings and finds the answer is, "No."

That's pretty surprising, but he has the receipts, as the 50-year-olds pretending to be 15-year-olds on Twitter say.

Disney has released public statements about the costs of each film. But there is no SEC patrolling their statements for truthfulness. For some reason, entertainment companies are allowed to mislead shareholders about the costs and profitability of their films. (I guess "Hollywood accounting" is accepted by the SEC as the standard accounting for the business.)

Disney claims that all five of its Fake Star Wars movies -- the trilogy, plus Solo and Rogue One -- cost $1.3 billion to make.

But that's not what their British tax filings say. Disney films all of its blockbusters in Great Britain to take advantage of the tax credits that country offers for making movies there. And those filings have to be at least close to accurate, because those expenditures are what the tax credits are based on.

Disney uses fake names for the financial entities operating in Britain to receive these tax credits -- The Force Awakens was made under the auspices of "Foodles International," The Rise of Skywalker was made by a corporation called "Carbonado Industries" -- but if you can figure out which fake-name company was making which movie, you know about how much these films cost to make, because the financial information is public record.

The Star Wars films' budgets -- first their claimed budgets, then the real budgets, as disclosed in British tax filings:

The Force Awakens........$308 million.........$667 million

Rogue One......................$200 million.........$294 million

The Last Jedi...................$262 million.........$409 million

Soylo................................$275 million.........$364 million

The Rise of Skywalker.....$275 million.........$554 million

So they claimed these five films cost $1.3 billion.

But the actual costs are $2.29 billion.

In addition, each of these films had a marketing budget of at least $150 million, and most had expensive reshoots which are probably not tallied in the British filings.

The five films cost, then, more than $3 billion.

And how much did the movies actually generated in income?

All together, they made $5.92 billion in gross rentals. "Rentals" are what they receive from movie theaters in exchange for allowing theaters to exhibit the movies.

But studios only receive a cut of that -- the theater gets its cut too.

The cut the studio gets depends on the market. For US rentals, the studio takes 55% of the box office receipts. For foreign markets excluding China, the studio gets 43%.

For the Chinese market, they take only a pittance -- 25%. Because China is Asshoe.

Crunching the numbers, Valliant Renegade calculates that Disney made about $2.84 billion in rentals on these five films.

So Disney lost money on the movies, at least comparing receipts to expenditures.

There are other numbers to figure in -- they got about $300 million in tax credits from the UK, so that knocks down their costs. And these films have continued making money in the post-theatrical markets of VOD rentals and rentals to streaming services.

But many movies that fail to turn a profit at the box office eventually eke out a profit from TV rentals.

We don't call those movies "hits," though.

So Disney's Star Wars is barely profitable, and it looks like a lot of the blame for that is due to Kaffeine Kennedy's undisciplined, profligate spending. As well as her determination to make divisive films that deliberately alienate the built-in audience. She's basically using super-ultra-blockbuster budgets to make divisive independent movie political fare.

Disney's share price dropped to a fresh new low on September 7th, falling below $80. It has since climbed back to $83-84, which is still almost half its high of $168 during the covid lockdown.

Speaking of profligate spending to chase an ever-sinking audience: Disney's former profit center ESPN has been slowly dying due to cord-cutting, but have refused to stop spending "like drunken sailors" on broadcast rights, to bring costs and revenues into closer alignment.

The era of cable and satellite cord cutting began in the fall of 2014.
Quietly, at first.
So quietly, in fact, that most at ESPN and in the cable industry refused to acknowledge what was occurring. A few million here, a few million there, slowly a trickle turning into a stream and then the stream turning into a river and before long there was a flood of cord cutters.
If they made a movie about the cord cutting disaster -- and at some point they might -- a quant would be the hero. Someone deep in the recesses of ESPN's business department who looked at the cable revenue spigot and started to realize what was going on -- the greatest business in the history of media was sputtering, just as ESPN spent greater and greater sums of money on sports rights. That person probably jumped and waved their arms, begged ESPN executives not to keep spending money on sports rights like drunken sailors.
And that person was summarily ignored.
By the summer of 2023, just nine years after peak cable was hit in 2014, only 70 million households were paying for cable or satellite subscriptions. ESPN had lost 30% of its business, just as the cost for sports rights loomed larger and larger.
And then last week, inexplicably, things got worse. Charter Communications, home to 15 million cable and satellite subscribers, refused to bend the knee to ESPN's price increase demands and cut the channel -- along with ABC and all other Disney properties -- off air just as Florida prepared to kick off against Utah on the opening Thursday night of college football.
...
How did ESPN's business die?
Gradually and then all at once.
Nine years ago ESPN was in 100 million households, without Charter they are in around 55 million households. In the space of nine years, ESPN has lost almost half its audience, half its business, half its subscription revenue.
This is a massive media story, one of the biggest of our lives. And it's not just ESPN. ESPN just stands to lose the most because it had the most lucrative business model in cable. It's all of the cable and satellite bundle, the entire cable neighborhood is on fire.
As much as you've read about this ESPN-Charter battle so far? It should be ten times that much. Because this is how the free ride that most of us sports fans have grown used to comes to a screeching halt. This is bad, very bad, if you're a sports fan, a sports media employee, a sports executive or an employee of a sports team, this is asteroid hitting the planet bad, a dinosaur level extinction event.

Whether you're a star athlete, an owner, or just a fan, if you care who wins games or simply enjoy watching those games, we're all about to have to pay a ton more for that privilege.
Put simply, everyone is f*cked.
Including, potentially, everyone in all of media, not just those of us in sports media.
Because the golden cable cash spigot has suddenly run out of coins and if sports collapses, the entire cable bundle may collapse with it.

His point is that ESPN was only able to drain money out of the wallets of cable subscribers because cable companies bundled ESPN's huge costs into everyone's bill -- including Aunt Gladys, who never, ever watched ESPN. ESPN viewers were therefore subsidized by millions and millions of Aunt Gladyses, who never watched ESPN and had no idea that $20 of every monthly cable bill was going right to ESPN.

ESPN can afford to pay the NFL $100 million per Monday Night Footbal game because they're stealing hundreds of millions from millions of unsuspecting Aunt Gladyses who have no idea that the cable channels they watch are very inexpensive ones, and that most of the money they're paying for The Great British Baking Show is going to pay for NBA games.

But now that people are cutting the cord and paying only for what they want, ESPN can not spread out its massive costs to millions of unwitting subsidizers, and actual ESPN viewers will have to pay costs commensurate with ESPN's actual costs -- which will probably destroy ESPN, because many people will say "No thank you" if forced to pay full freight for a service they only occasionally enjoy.

ESPN's business model relied completely on Aunt Gladys never realizing she was paying an awful lot of money for a channel she never watches. Now that Aunt Gladys has woken up to this, ESPN's whole business model is collapsing.

He points out that ESPN's big solution to this problem is their own streaming offering. But their streaming channel is a trainwreck which no one watches and has barely any content. This is a problem that plagues would-be streamers like CNN: Their contracts with cable companies specify that their content only be offered on cable. So CNN, Fox, and ESPN can't, under their current contracts, just offer the cable fare on their streaming service. They have to invent new, cheap "content" for their streaming service, and then beg people to pay them money for dogshit.

Travis writes that ESPN thinks they can solve the problem of their one collapsing business by adding another business that never collapsed only because it never got off the ground in the first place.

Below, Midnight's Edge reports on the vanity and power-madness of Bob Iger.

This was the old Star Wars -- it worked on such a primal level that even a dog got it.

Dogs know when someone is not good 😊
📽️ - Rustymetalcreation TikTok pic.twitter.com/fSKAs0Jqfv
— Pier Pets (@PierPets) September 13, 2023

And now?

I find the criticism of Jack Black and Lizzo making cameo appearances in Mando S3 kinda funny.

Like, sure� their casting wasn�t great and the performances weren�t awesome. But that has to be pretty low on the list of problems that actually matter with this season. pic.twitter.com/q9QsqgfYW0
— Rambling Brain 🧙‍♂️ (@rb_caniac) April 10, 2023

This fails the Dog Test.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:37 PM

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1 Arrrrgh!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, Stochastic Disinformation Laundry Manager at September 14, 2023 04:38 PM (PiwSw)

2 Jack Black is totally set up for a Rick Rubin biopic.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, Stochastic Disinformation Laundry Manager at September 14, 2023 04:39 PM (PiwSw)

3 In addition, each of these films had a marketing budget of at least $150 million, and most had expensive reshoots which are probably not tallied in the British filings.

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If the filings were in Britain, they reshoots would end up falling under the same umbrellas, right?

It's my understanding that all studio shooting went on at Pinewood, but it's possible they did reshoots in LA.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:39 PM (LvTSG)

4 Not late to this thread… nosiree!!

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:39 PM (PCK5/)

5
Seriously, if Fox or XiNN or MSLSD needs original programming, the Ace of Spades Media Network is happy to provide content!

Call me! J.J. Sefton Sr. VP of Content and Fluffery

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:40 PM (x0n13)

6 and none of these figures include the overhead of keeping LucasFilms running. Doesn't KK make a bundle of millions?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:40 PM (aD39U)

7 Maths are stubborn things, Ace…

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM (PCK5/)

8 >>>
If the filings were in Britain, they reshoots would end up falling under the same umbrellas, right?

if they were in britain. some of what might be called "reshoots" might be reworking of very expensive CGI shots.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

9 So Disney's Star Wars is barely profitable, and it looks like a lot of the blame for that is due to Kaffeine Kennedy's undisciplined, profligate spending. As well as her determination to make divisive films that deliberately alienate the built-in audience. She's basically using super-ultra-blockbuster budgets to make divisive independent movie political fare.

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She wants to be Irving Thalberg.

Thalberg could do it in no small part because he was making cheap movies on an assembly line.

She's making wildly expensive, individual films that have no assembly line features beyond the Volume which only came about during the shooting of Mandalorian.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM (LvTSG)

10 I'm not watching as fast as I can.

Posted by: Ugh at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM (nHR5C)

11 Luke, Obi Wan never told you about the new Pontiac....on CNN.

Posted by: James Earl Jones, singin' the hits at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM (PiwSw)

12 Lizzo twerking in zero gravity.
You're welcome.

Posted by: wth at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM (v0R5T)

13 Lizzo and Jack Black… Theater of the Absurd..

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:42 PM (PCK5/)

14 I find the criticism of Jack Black and Lizzo making cameo appearances in Mando S3 kinda funny.

Like, sure… their casting wasn’t great and the performances weren’t awesome. But that has to be pretty low on the list of problems that actually matter with this season.

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I've heard that it was low-key sabotage by Jon Favreau on purpose as a secret message to the fans that all is going to be well once Kennedy gets fired any day now.

Doomcock told me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:42 PM (LvTSG)

15 Honest question here, but don't most businesses have a huge incentive to "over state" what a production costs in order to pretend to have as little profit as possible for tax reasons?

Posted by: Blago at September 14, 2023 04:42 PM (wMRY8)

16 Now, factor in how much money Dinsey paid George Lucas.

There were people at the time who were skeptical Dinsey could make back its initial investment. Looks like they haven't.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 04:42 PM (iC0LX)

17 Dogs know when someone is not good

That.is.awesome.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:43 PM (aD39U)

18 Burn, mouse, burn.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 14, 2023 04:43 PM (N1tpc)

19 12 Lizzo twerking in zero gravity.
You're welcome.
Posted by: wth at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM (v0R5T)

The beads of rancid grease, perspiration and lube would be like a Josh Light Show.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:43 PM (x0n13)

20 Willowed: Other side of the coin, the phone now replaces television, movies, magazines, newspapers, want ads, for sale ads, hell, even books. And then there is the question what would a 1967 $20 be worth today?

***
My Timex Electric watch in 1966 retailed for $40. that's about $375 today. No wonder my father grumbled under his breath when I said I wanted that for Christmas that year.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 04:43 PM (J2vNu)

21 Fatass and the Asshole…

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:44 PM (PCK5/)

22 I'd love to see Disney collapse. But I kinda doubt it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 14, 2023 04:44 PM (ppBhU)

23 8 if they were in britain. some of what might be called "reshoots" might be reworking of very expensive CGI shots.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

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True.

Also, you don't get a studio up and running to put Daisy Ridley in front of a greenscreen for one extra shot. You do that at some small stage at ILM.

But those numbers really do feel like complete production and post-production costs, not just shooting costs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:44 PM (LvTSG)

24 15 Honest question here, but don't most businesses have a huge incentive to "over state" what a production costs in order to pretend to have as little profit as possible for tax reasons?
Posted by: Blago at September 14, 2023 04:42 PM (wMRY

"Ahem!"

- - Bialystock & Bloom Prods.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:44 PM (x0n13)

25 If you didn't manage to make movies off the first couple of horrible Disney Star Wars movies, you suck at balancing your checkbook. The Force Awakens put asses in seats.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

26 Star Wars X: The Force Speaks Truth to Power

Posted by: Kathleen Kennedy at September 14, 2023 04:44 PM (krQz2)

27 Those mummified aliens are worth a lot of money, I mean like a dollar per ticket at the carnival 100 years ago.

Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2023 04:45 PM (z3WCn)

28 George Lucas has a framed photo of the first four billion dollars he ever made.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 14, 2023 04:45 PM (44ww/)

29 Lizzo twerking in zero gravity.
You're welcome.
Posted by: wth at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM

Lizzo twerking in zero-gravity, or "Nancy Pelosi's desiccated flaptrap"?

Gentlemen, for the love of all that is holy, do not suggest invoking the magic power of "and".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 04:45 PM (a3Q+t)

30 18 Burn, mouse, burn.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 14, 2023 04:43 PM (N1tpc)

Sound of the Traamps scribbling lyrics and setting the Wayback Machine for 1977 . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:45 PM (x0n13)

31 16 Now, factor in how much money Dinsey paid George Lucas.

There were people at the time who were skeptical Dinsey could make back its initial investment. Looks like they haven't.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 04:42 PM (iC0LX)

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Spielberg as producer could have made it happen.

Ready Player One reportedly only cost $180 million. Though, that number very well could be bullshit, but Spielberg isn't known for massive meddling as a producer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:45 PM (LvTSG)

32 Star Wars XI: The Rise of the Pronouns

Posted by: Kathleen Kennedy at September 14, 2023 04:45 PM (krQz2)

33 >George Lucas has a framed photo of the first four billion dollars he ever made.

It is signed by Kenny Baker.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 14, 2023 04:45 PM (44ww/)

34 26 Star Wars X: The Force Speaks Truth to Power
Posted by: Kathleen Kennedy at September 14, 2023 04:44 PM (krQz2)

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Star Wars XI: You Have to Do Better, Senator

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (LvTSG)

35 29 Lizzo twerking in zero gravity.
You're welcome.
Posted by: wth at September 14, 2023 04:41 PM

Lizzo twerking in zero-gravity, or "Nancy Pelosi's desiccated flaptrap"?

Gentlemen, for the love of all that is holy, do not suggest invoking the magic power of "and".
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 04:45 PM (a3Q+t)

"Feh!!!"

- - Rosa DeLauro scissoring Helen Thomas' corpse

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (x0n13)

36 >a sports executive or an employee of a sports team, this is asteroid hitting the planet bad, a dinosaur level extinction event.
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oh no, they might have to cut their hookers & blow budget by a few million!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (r0Q9B)

37 AHHHH!! But as Spaceballs taught us, the real money is in MERCHANDISING...

And I see tons of Star Wars merchandise in the clearance bins and relegated to outlets for unsold merchandise....

BURN mouse, BURN!

Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (N1tpc)

38 I'm not watching harder.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (uSHSS)

39 A lot of us Star Wars fans are still trying to understand how Disney could take STAR WARS of all IPs--basically a license to print money--and turn it into the disaster we now know and hate.

It simply boggles the mind.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (YIVH2)

40 Is this gonna get Kathleen Kennedy fired?? What else do they need!!

Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (vqigf)

41 34 Star Wars XI: You Have to Do Better, Senator
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (LvTSG)

"Me rikey!"

- - XI jinping

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (x0n13)

42 I would love for Lucas to buy the studio back, for $200M.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (aD39U)

43 Of course they lie

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (fwDg9)

44 39 A lot of us Star Wars fans are still trying to understand how Disney could take STAR WARS of all IPs--basically a license to print money--and turn it into the disaster we now know and hate.

It simply boggles the mind.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (YIVH2)

Isn't this really the story of Socialism?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (x0n13)

45 Wolfus, my Seiko 5 automatic ran about $280. Second one I've owned and the best.

Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2023 04:48 PM (z3WCn)

46 Soylo............................$275 million.........$364 million

Hahaha, Soylo. I really should have bought one of EVS' Soylo a Soy Wars Story t-shirts when they were available.

Posted by: spindrift at September 14, 2023 04:48 PM (EGPRf)

47 AHHHH!! But as Spaceballs taught us, the real money is in MERCHANDISING...

And I see tons of Star Wars merchandise in the clearance bins and relegated to outlets for unsold merchandise....

BURN mouse, BURN!
Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (N1tpc)
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IIRC, George Lucas was totally on board with Mel Brooks making fun of Star Wars as long as there wasn't any real merchandising to go along with the movie.

Which is why Yogurt brandishes a "Spaceballs Flamethrower" -- the kids love that one!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 14, 2023 04:48 PM (YIVH2)

48 I still say they make it all back on their Christmas tentpole Tijuana Donkey Show Movie franchise launch.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 14, 2023 04:48 PM (z+89e)

49 40 Is this gonna get Kathleen Kennedy fired?? What else do they need!!
Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:46 PM (vqigf)

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Do you want the rumors from Doomcock, or do you want the most likely explanation?

The most likely explanation is the Iger and the Board like Kennedy and don't think she's doing a bad job.

The Doomcock explanation is that she's got super secret contract protection from everything bad she could ever do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:48 PM (LvTSG)

50 >Whether you're a star athlete, an owner, or just a fan, if you care who wins games or simply enjoy watching those games, we're all about to have to pay a ton more for that privilege.
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Good, tired of subsidizing every slob's sportsball addition. Now if we can find a way to keep taxpayers from having to build these privileged fucks their new Taj Mahals every 20 years, that would be great.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 14, 2023 04:48 PM (r0Q9B)

51 There’s a lot of Ruin in Disney…

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:48 PM (PCK5/)

52 Disney needs to get into pron.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM (AMd6i)

53 51 There’s a lot of Ruin in Disney…
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:48 PM (PCK5/)

Old and Busted - Scott Rudin
New Hotness - Lots Ruin

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM (x0n13)

54 Disney is already into porn, tangentially…

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM (PCK5/)

55
Spending like drunken sailors?

That's a gross insult to our Naval brethren, a scurrilous lie, an abject falsehood...

*looks at LCS program*

Okay, you got me.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM (n+4am)

56 Fun fact: The best part of Ron Burgundy is the cameos. The movie itself is dumb. Yes, there are one-liners that get quoted, but most of the film is cringe.

Steve Carell is a one-joke waste of his talent, Rudd is probably the best main character (more than Farrell), and Applegate can't act. Period.

And yet, it's one of the best "comedies" of the 21st century. That's how bad it's gotten.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM (rHSCD)

57 52 Disney needs to get into pron.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM (AMd6i)

"Roger me, er, that!"

- - Democrat candidate Susana Gibbons

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM (x0n13)

58 >>>
Hahaha, Soylo. I really should have bought one of EVS' Soylo a Soy Wars Story t-shirts when they were available.

EVS called it "Soylo: A Soy Wars Soyry"

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)

59 Isn't this really the story of Socialism?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (x0n13)
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I don't know if it's about socialism specifically, but certainly it's about putting ideology before the desires of the audience.

Disney could have built a literal Scrooge McDuckian money vault if they had treated the IP with the respect and admiration the fans expected.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (YIVH2)

60 42 I would love for Lucas to buy the studio back, for $200M.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (aD39U)

Jane Harman bought Newsweek for $1.00, and still.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (x0n13)

61 I know what everybody says about jack Black. But . . . it's strange. His characters may be odd, but they are recognizably human, with foibles and failings that you can see in yourself and in other people. His role in the latest version of King Kong, for instance, was not really comic, and I never shook my head at his performance and said "Nobody behaves like that."

His School of Rock character was funny as well.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (J2vNu)

62 There are other numbers to figure in -- they got about $300 million in tax credits from the UK, so that knocks down their costs. And these films have continued making money in the post-theatrical markets of VOD rentals and rentals to streaming services.
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Don’t forget merchandising. They probably made $20 or $30 off of Rose Tico action figures alone.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (e/lgx)

63 I thought conventional wisdom was that no movie ever turns a profit once the creative accountants were done. That way, the studio doesn't have to pay a big tax bill.

Posted by: PabloD at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (JOooN)

64 Iger is on a cost cutting spree. Sort of. So he noticed the profligate spending.

Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:51 PM (vqigf)

65

There's no fucking way they made money on those pieces of garbage.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at September 14, 2023 04:51 PM (UCNv1)

66 you want the most likely explanation?

The most likely explanation is the Iger and the Board like Kennedy and don't think she's doing a bad job.

The Doomcock explanation is that she's got super secret contract protection from everything bad she could ever do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September

The fandom HATES HER.

Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:51 PM (vqigf)

67 >>>59 Isn't this really the story of Socialism?

Soycialism.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 04:51 PM (KRtlO)

68 Don’t forget merchandising. They probably made $20 or $30 off of Rose Tico action figures alone.
Posted by: Cave Johnson at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (e/lgx)

That was the gross, not the net.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:51 PM (aD39U)

69 Call me! J.J. Sefton Sr. VP of Content and Fluffery
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:40 PM

You're fluffing now? Oy, vey!

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (a3Q+t)

70 66 The fandom HATES HER.
Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:51 PM (vqigf)

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The fandom don't sign her stock option certificates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (LvTSG)

71 Disney needs to get into pron.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM (AMd6i)
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A new type of Disney Princess.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (krQz2)

72 I find the criticism of Jack Black and Lizzo making cameo appearances in Mando S3 kinda funny.

Like, sure… their casting wasn’t great and the performances weren’t awesome. But that has to be pretty low on the list of problems that actually matter with this season.

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I've heard that it was low-key sabotage by Jon Favreau on purpose as a secret message to the fans that all is going to be well once Kennedy gets fired any day now.

Doomcock told me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:42 PM (LvTSG)

I heard that Dave Filloni was going to save Star Wars.

Midnight's Edge said it in a 3 hour fucking rambling live stream where they also threw in a few digs at James Gunn for reasons.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (xcxpd)

73 @32: "But their streaming channel is a trainwreck which no one watches and has barely any content."

One could argue that ESPN+ is still alive only because of their UFC partnership, and that contract is up for renegotiation and renewal next year. Disney overpaid the UFC to make PPV purchases (above and beyond basic subscription) exclusive to the ESPN+ app too. Not sure the UFC needs ESPN's credibility by association as much nowadays, and Disney sure as hell can't afford to overpay as much as they did in '19.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (k1Qly)

74 I would love for Lucas to buy the studio back, for $200M.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (aD39U)

He is kind of old.

Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (vqigf)

75 63 I thought conventional wisdom was that no movie ever turns a profit once the creative accountants were done. That way, the studio doesn't have to pay a big tax bill.
Posted by: PabloD at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (JOooN)

Look up the story of Art Buchwald and the lawsuit against, of all studios, Disney for the movie "Coming to America."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (x0n13)

76 What the hell is a “Rose Tico”?..

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (PCK5/)

77 I'm seriously about done with Midnight's Edge. It's turning into a teenaged gossip channel.

I got not time for their bullshit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (xcxpd)

78 The fandom HATES HER.
Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:51 PM (vqigf)
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To be fair, she's demonstrated more than once that she hates the fans. At least, she hates the fans that should matter.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (YIVH2)

79 Who can burn money faster - Disney or Johnny Depp?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (AMd6i)

80 69 Call me! J.J. Sefton Sr. VP of Content and Fluffery
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:40 PM

You're fluffing now? Oy, vey!

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (a3Q+t)

I merely direct and advise on the fluffery.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2023 04:53 PM (x0n13)

81 Star Wars XII: Rose Tico Awakens

Posted by: Kathleen Kennedy at September 14, 2023 04:53 PM (krQz2)

82 Where's my money, mouse?

Posted by: Comcast at September 14, 2023 04:53 PM (aD39U)

83 72 I heard that Dave Filloni was going to save Star Wars.

Midnight's Edge said it in a 3 hour fucking rambling live stream where they also threw in a few digs at James Gunn for reasons.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (xcxpd)

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I wish I could ramble for 3 hours straight about a single topic, saying the same thing over and over again, and get paid a decent ad-supported salary to do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:53 PM (LvTSG)

84 I listen to ESPN on way to work occasionally. Lots of personnel shifting and 'new' voices..lots of women being hired

Posted by: A dude in MI at September 14, 2023 04:53 PM (/6GbT)

85 My understanding is "a la carte" cable legislation (where the industry couldnt bundle it all together) was going to happen decades ago, but an alliance came together with BET (black entertainment television) and Trinity Broadcasting Knowing both channels would probably face an extinction level event if people got to pick these channels.

They were able to persuade lawmakers to hold off on it. Allowing ESPN to continue to print money.

Posted by: Blago at September 14, 2023 04:54 PM (wMRY8)

86 Look up the story of Art Buchwald and the lawsuit against, of all studios, Disney for the movie "Coming to America."
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I attended college with Connie Buchwald. We played a shit ton of Canasta together. Met her father - nice guy.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 14, 2023 04:54 PM (AMd6i)

87 I would love for Lucas to buy the studio back, for $200M.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (aD39U)

He is kind of old.
Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (vqigf)

He can burn it all down for his Viking Funeral.

Posted by: Comcast at September 14, 2023 04:54 PM (aD39U)

88 61 I know what everybody says about jack Black. But . . . it's strange. His characters may be odd, but they are recognizably human, with foibles and failings that you can see in yourself and in other people. His role in the latest version of King Kong, for instance, was not really comic, and I never shook my head at his performance and said "Nobody behaves like that."

His School of Rock character was funny as well.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (J2vNu)

Thought he was awesome in High Fidelity. Hilarious in Orange County. Pretty great guy in School of Rock.

I don't mind Mr. Black.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2023 04:54 PM (KbCG3)

89 Spending like drunken sailors?

That's a gross insult to our Naval brethren, a scurrilous lie, an abject falsehood...

*looks at LCS program*

Okay, you got me.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM

Actually, son, LCS is a great example of our parsimony with the public's money.

After all, they could have been BCS, Big Crappy Ships.

Posted by: SecNav at September 14, 2023 04:54 PM (a3Q+t)

90 88 Thought he was awesome in High Fidelity. Hilarious in Orange County. Pretty great guy in School of Rock.

I don't mind Mr. Black.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2023 04:54 PM (KbCG3)

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And then...there is Tenacious D in the Pick of Destiny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:55 PM (LvTSG)

91 Someday we will know the truth about Kathleen Kennedy. That is , she is an alien and practices mind control!

Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:55 PM (vqigf)

92 I don't know how anyone persuades themselves to watch any of these entertainment podcasts. They're so long-winded and time-consuming.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 14, 2023 04:55 PM (ppBhU)

93
I thought conventional wisdom was that no movie ever turns a profit once the creative accountants were done. That way, the studio doesn't have to pay a big tax bill.
Posted by: PabloD at September 14, 2023 04:50 PM (JOooN)

Which is why any screenwriter or actor with any brains either gets their money up front or they get a percentage of GROSS (assuming they have the high-powered legal team to properly negotiate it).

Anyone who negotiates for a percentage of profit is a retard.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2023 04:55 PM (n+4am)

94 Hollywood accounting has long been completely full of crap. The one thing about Disney that cracked me up was they were including in profitability the money they got from selling stuff to Disney+. It's like the old SNL change skit, how do you make money on that? Volume

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 14, 2023 04:55 PM (/7iym)

95 I would love for Lucas to buy the studio back, for $200M.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (aD39U)

He is kind of old.
Posted by: runner at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (vqigf)
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He should still buy it all back, and hand it to somebody with talent.

At least that would be a better legacy.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 04:56 PM (krQz2)

96 92 I don't know how anyone persuades themselves to watch any of these entertainment podcasts. They're so long-winded and time-consuming.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 14, 2023 04:55 PM (ppBhU)

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I listen to the Taskmaster podcast (at 1.9 speed) because it is funny and entertains me as I drive to pick up kiddos.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:56 PM (LvTSG)

97 I wish I could ramble for 3 hours straight about a single topic, saying the same thing over and over again, and get paid a decent ad-supported salary to do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:53 PM (LvTSG)

I'm going to avoid the obvious jokes and say, I wish you could too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:56 PM (xcxpd)

98 90 88 Thought he was awesome in High Fidelity. Hilarious in Orange County. Pretty great guy in School of Rock.

I don't mind Mr. Black.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2023 04:54 PM (KbCG3)

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And then...there is Tenacious D in the Pick of Destiny.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:55 PM (LvTSG)

I still crack up at just the premise of the song Tribute.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2023 04:56 PM (KbCG3)

99 I would love for Lucas to buy the studio back, for $200M.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (aD39U)

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Critical Drinker could do a GoFundMe, buy it, and thrill the entire fandom.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 14, 2023 04:57 PM (91Bpy)

100 @78: "To be fair, she's demonstrated more than once ..."

Kelly Marie Tran's (Rose Tico) interviews were also the first time that Disney truly went all in with the "any criticism is proof of your many -isms and -phobias" marketing ploy.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 14, 2023 04:57 PM (k1Qly)

101 97 I wish I could ramble for 3 hours straight about a single topic, saying the same thing over and over again, and get paid a decent ad-supported salary to do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:53 PM (LvTSG)

I'm going to avoid the obvious jokes and say, I wish you could too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:56 PM (xcxpd)

He doesn't get it. Probably watching Prometheus. 1/10, would not bang this joke.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2023 04:57 PM (KbCG3)

102 I will listen to Critical Drinker's shorter videos, his Extra Shot recommendations too.

But I regret nearly every livestream video I waste time listening to.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:57 PM (xcxpd)

103 101 He doesn't get it. Probably watching Prometheus. 1/10, would not bang this joke.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2023 04:57 PM (KbCG3)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (LvTSG)

104 If you haven't seen it, check out Bernie ( 2011 ).

The role Jack Black was born to play.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (aD39U)

105 103 101 He doesn't get it. Probably watching Prometheus. 1/10, would not bang this joke.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2023 04:57 PM (KbCG3)

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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (LvTSG)

I told you he wouldn't get it! Was the first thing I said!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (KbCG3)

106 If you haven't seen it, check out Bernie ( 2011 ).

The role Jack Black was born to play.

Seconded. It's really good, and he's great in it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (ppBhU)

107 I'm going to avoid the obvious jokes
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:56 PM

You must be new here.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (a3Q+t)

108 Disney is already into porn, tangentially…
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:49 PM (PCK5/)

Did y'all see Crowder's segment yesterday, with the cute half-Asian chick who did a James O'Keefe on the pronhub tech dude?

The guy was basically admitting the parent company doesn't give a hoot about rape and child pron on the site.

Oops! If you're a media exec, best not to "brag" about how evil you are to a cute girl out of your league who goes on a "date" with you.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (Qd8NY)

109 As for Jack Black...I don't much like him but he's usually well cast and does his job as an actor.

But I never see Jack Black in a movie and feel happy about seeing him. Dunno. Maybe it's just me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:59 PM (xcxpd)

110 Didn't much like Jack Black in Tropic Thunder.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 14, 2023 04:59 PM (N3zMI)

111 104 If you haven't seen it, check out Bernie ( 2011 ).

The role Jack Black was born to play.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (aD39U)

Without having seen that, I can say that the role he was born to play was his role on Workaholics as Adam's dad.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 14, 2023 04:59 PM (KbCG3)

112 107 I'm going to avoid the obvious jokes
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:56 PM

You must be new here.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (a3Q+t)

I know, I know...I should go with the cheap content.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:59 PM (xcxpd)

113 For some reason I think of Joe Mannix, James Madison and Fenelon Spoke as being quantum entangled…

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 04:59 PM (PCK5/)

114 The role Jack Black was born to play.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:58 PM (aD39U)

He was born to play the assassin's target dummy in the otherwise forgettable "The Jackal".

Posted by: spindrift at September 14, 2023 05:00 PM (EGPRf)

115 Kathleen Kennedy must have a keyring that holds all the shriveled up testicles of the soy-simpy executives at Disney

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:00 PM (VTu1l)

116 You can tell it's fiction because in reality, Lizzo would have eaten Grogu.

Posted by: The_Hoser at September 14, 2023 05:00 PM (N66D6)

117 >I'm seriously about done with Midnight's Edge. It's turning into a teenaged gossip channel.

I got not time for their bullshit.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:52 PM (xcxpd)

Most YouTube culture criticism feels really stale and catty now. Even Gary from Nerdrotic, whom I like, is seeming pretty repetitive these days.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 14, 2023 05:00 PM (r0Q9B)

118 But I regret nearly every livestream video I waste time listening to.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:57 PM (xcxpd)

The format just doesn't work. You have half a dozen (or more) people on the stream, none are in the same room, and they're all trying to talk over one another, to get in their clever comments.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:01 PM (Qd8NY)

119 I would love for Lucas to buy the studio back, for $200M.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 04:47 PM (aD39U)

I wouldn't, his prequels were hated and launched the internet long form movie review industry that brought Disney and other frauds down.

Sell it to someone who can make good movies and loves the franchise.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:01 PM (eoQWY)

120 But I never see Jack Black in a movie and feel happy about seeing him. Dunno. Maybe it's just me.

***************

He has as much appeal to me as Will Ferrell.

Which is to say, none

get off my lawn

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:01 PM (VTu1l)

121 Most YouTube culture criticism feels really stale and catty now. Even Gary from Nerdrotic, whom I like, is seeming pretty repetitive these days.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 14, 2023 05:00 PM (r0Q9B)

I suppose when its your job and you have to keep putting out videos at a certain tempo, it gets old and you phone it in.

It's different when you feel passionate about something and THEN make a video from that passion.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 05:02 PM (xcxpd)

122 Disney spends a bonkers amount of money. The first movie in a set can be pretty expensive because all of the assets have to be made (like "Millennium Falcon" sets that and digital models that will then be used again) and so that's upfront cost - Avatar II is *way* more expensive than Avatar III will be for this reason - but to keep spending that much over and over again is unreal. Disney's been burning cash for so long that I wonder if they know how to do anything that costs under $150 million.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2023 05:02 PM (t0OGg)

123 CDC says covid, flu, and RSV could cause tripledemic.

Posted by: It's happening at September 14, 2023 05:02 PM (TObdq)

124 @92: "They're so long-winded and time-consuming."

You play 'em in the background and casually listen like it's a baseball game on the radio.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 14, 2023 05:02 PM (k1Qly)

125 So they claimed these five films cost $1.3 billion.

But the actual costs are $2.29 billion.
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Hollywood Accounting, man.

Hey, what's damn near 100% between friends?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM (t0OGg)

126 But I regret nearly every livestream video I waste time listening to.

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Those livestreams are like 4 hours long. The best are the clips from those livestreams that show the best parts, which is typically only a few minutes.

Only Rush can get away with talking for 3 hours.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM (VTu1l)

127 By the way, that weird look on Grogu's face is because Lizzo just stuck a banana up his ass.

Posted by: The_Hoser at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM (N66D6)

128 ESPN's fine. Amazon will save them, right?

RIGHT?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM (t0OGg)

129 123 CDC says covid, flu, and RSV could cause tripledemic.
Posted by: It's happening at September 14, 2023 05:02 PM (TObdq)

CDC says a lot of shit…

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM (PCK5/)

130 115 Kathleen Kennedy must have a keyring that holds all the shriveled up testicles of the soy-simpy executives at Disney
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:00 PM (VTu1l)

non-YouTube gossip indicated that she had some good blackmail in several male Directors/CEO/Producers from her time following Lucas around and giving him coffee and interrupting him and Spielberg.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM (xcxpd)

131 >>>I still crack up at just the premise of the song Tribute.

it's amusing.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM (KRtlO)

132 But tax credits against WHAT exactly? If the movies aren’t making substantial profits, what’s the credit to get in taxes? Is this a general credit for say, corporate taxes?

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 14, 2023 05:04 PM (pz5mB)

133 I wish I could ramble for 3 hours straight about a single topic, saying the same thing over and over again, and get paid a decent ad-supported salary to do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 14, 2023 04:53 PM (LvTSG)

If only Ace could pay us for commenting......

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 14, 2023 05:04 PM (BdMk6)

134 123 CDC says covid, flu, and RSV could cause tripledemic.
Posted by: It's happening at September 14, 2023 05:02 PM (TObdq)

But mostly flu and RSV.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:04 PM (867s5)

135 Didn't much like Jack Black in Tropic Thunder.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 14, 2023 04:59 PM (N3zMI)
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Much better in Nacho Libre.

"When you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants, in your room--i's for fun!"

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:04 PM (krQz2)

136 Most YouTube culture criticism feels really stale and catty now. Even Gary from Nerdrotic, whom I like, is seeming pretty repetitive these days.

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they're basically sitcoms of today, it's fine when provide the latest on how hollywood is suffering or critique new shows and movies so I don't have to watch them

Same thing with Pitch Meetings by Ryan, literally the same format for YEARS and it still works

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:04 PM (VTu1l)

137 jack black is just annoying

that other oddball guy from Silicon Valley is more likable

and he's not likable at all

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 14, 2023 05:05 PM (AcWfM)

138 I will listen to Critical Drinker's shorter videos, his Extra Shot recommendations too.

But I regret nearly every livestream video I waste time listening to.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:57 PM (xcxpd)

Try the ones the Drinker and Mauler put on weekly, they are usually pretty good. And jumping in with real outrage is part of the charm of the format, like when the Sword-freak Shadiversity is on and they do sword battles.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:05 PM (eoQWY)

139 >>>04 If you haven't seen it, check out Bernie ( 2011 ).

oh, yeah. He was like a mortician in Texas who got involved with a murder or some other crime? I remember that being okay.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

140 But I never see Jack Black in a movie and feel happy about seeing him. Dunno. Maybe it's just me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 04:59 PM (xcxpd)

No, it's not just you. He seems conscientious. I'll give him that.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:05 PM (Qd8NY)

141 >>>Hunter Biden filed a civil lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for Central California on Wednesday against nonprofit Marco Polo’s founder, Garrett Ziegler, for publishing 128,000 indexed emails from his abandoned “Laptop from Hell.” Marco Polo issued a digital indexed dossier in October entitled, “Report on the Biden Laptop,” complete
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I didn't know that.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2023 05:06 PM (lCWOD)

142 >CDC says covid, flu, and RSV could cause tripledemic.
Posted by: It's happening at September 14, 2023 05:02 PM (TObdq)

I just saw a PSA on PlutoTV trying to scare Boomers about RSV, featuring an old-style heart monitor flatline. They're definitely ramping up the old fear op again.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 14, 2023 05:06 PM (r0Q9B)

143 I liked Jack Black in two things:

School of Rock
His cameo in Community

that's about it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Exactly Streets Ahead at September 14, 2023 05:06 PM (T/Lqj)

144 Most YouTube culture criticism feels really stale and catty now. Even Gary from Nerdrotic, whom I like, is seeming pretty repetitive these days.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 14, 2023 05:00 PM (r0Q9B)
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That and the entertainment industries are putting out a lot of shit.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:07 PM (krQz2)

145 I admit that I enjoyed Shallow Hal.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:07 PM (aD39U)

146 Jack Black is another I never got. Worst thing in Tropic Thunder.

*thinking*

The only other movie I can think of him is the Jackal, where he gets shot a lot and it is entertaining.

Shallow Hal, which was awful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:07 PM (867s5)

147 "When you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants, in your room--i's for fun!"

*****************

I could not get past five minutes of watching Nacho

Maybe it's the setting that I just find offputting, since I fucking hate Mexico

but there's also a certain excentrique about Jack Black movies that just makes me switch it off

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:07 PM (VTu1l)

148 By the way, that weird look on Grogu's face is because Lizzo just stuck a banana up his ass.
Posted by: The_Hoser at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM

Have you considered a simpler explanation?

Posted by: Eric Swalwell (Dirtbag-CA) at September 14, 2023 05:07 PM (a3Q+t)

149 No, it's not just you. He seems conscientious. I'll give him that.

lol yes!

Jack Black INSISTS upon himself!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 14, 2023 05:07 PM (AcWfM)

150 A lot of us Star Wars fans are still trying to understand how Disney could take STAR WARS of all IPs--basically a license to print money--and turn it into the disaster we now know and hate.

It simply boggles the mind.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

You know, I know you are a smart guy, well read, does the Book Thread on Sundays...but...Star Wars?
I saw the first one when I was 22, and to me, they're popcorn entertainment, and no more. None of them are very good. Meh.
It's a silly Space Opera...there really isn't even any real "science" in them...it's just stuff somebody made up.

And Kathleen Kennedy can go on and on and waste Disney Corp's money, I still ain't going to go see any of this drek.
I watched "Ford versus Ferrari" on a flight home the other day (a very long flight), and really enjoyed that. It actually seemed like a movie for...adults.
Star Wars? Meh. Along with all the Marvel Comics movies. Meh. It's aimed at adolescent and teen-age boys. And now teen aged girls and ...whatever. Not at me.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at September 14, 2023 05:08 PM (vcOmj)

151 But tax credits against WHAT exactly? If the movies aren’t making substantial profits, what’s the credit to get in taxes? Is this a general credit for say, corporate taxes?
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 14, 2023 05:04 PM (pz5mB)

Employee salaries. Govt gets its cut from them

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:08 PM (eoQWY)

152 Those livestreams are like 4 hours long. The best are the clips from those livestreams that show the best parts, which is typically only a few minutes.

Only Rush can get away with talking for 3 hours.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM (VTu1l)

Speaking of overlong (pun intended) garbage, Ryan Long is fine, doing 3 minute skits.

Anything more than that, he gets real old, real fast.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:08 PM (Qd8NY)

153
Maybe it's the setting that I just find offputting, since I fucking hate Mexico

Try being stuck here for a thousand years!

Posted by: Some Pygmy Alien at September 14, 2023 05:09 PM (XqcwY)

154 Conceited, not conscientious- unless you are saying he is a man who sticks to his principles.

Of being a fat, unfunny slob.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:09 PM (867s5)

155 Long Ago in a Galaxy Far Away… I liked Star Wars…

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:09 PM (PCK5/)

156 Star Wars? Meh. Along with all the Marvel Comics movies. Meh. It's aimed at adolescent and teen-age boys. And now teen aged girls and ...whatever. Not at me.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at September 14, 2023 05:08 PM (vcOmj)

It takes all kinds, I guess.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:10 PM (aD39U)

157 If only Ace could pay us for commenting......
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 14, 2023 05:04 PM

Only comments that don't disappoint him would qualify.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 05:10 PM (a3Q+t)

158 I took another walk today. I'm so out of shape
I'm ashamed.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 14, 2023 05:10 PM (ePrC6)

159 I admit that I enjoyed Shallow Hal.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:07 PM (aD39U)

I bet you like Melissa McCarthy movies.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:10 PM (Qd8NY)

160 I don't think I've ever *paid* to see a movie Jack Black was in, and if I did it was because of the premise or the writers, or the director, or what I had heard about the plot, etc. Not to see him. I don't know if anyone anywhere ever said, "Hey, there's a new Jack Black film coming out!"

But he has energy, and he knows when to be comic and when not to be. When it comes to what he does best, he's convincing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 05:11 PM (J2vNu)

161 I bet you like Melissa McCarthy movies.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:10 PM (Qd8NY)

You know, I am not sure I have even seen one. Imagona go look on IMDB.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:11 PM (aD39U)

162 Was that 5.92 billion gross RENTALS or gross RECEIPTS? As you explain, rentals are the cut of the receipts that goes to the studio, so there is no further cut to the theater. If I understand you correctly.

Posted by: spooky at September 14, 2023 05:11 PM (ZKDOw)

163 Those livestreams are like 4 hours long. The best are the clips from those livestreams that show the best parts, which is typically only a few minutes.

Only Rush can get away with talking for 3 hours.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:03 PM (VTu1l)

You should see the 12 hour EFAPs where people would knock off to take a nap for a few hours and come back on

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:11 PM (eoQWY)

164 I was unaware of the existence of "Rise of Skywalker" so this whole post is a revelation.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at September 14, 2023 05:12 PM (UNQS9)

165 @144: "That and the entertainment industries are putting out a lot of shit."

Nerdrotic's particular circle of friends came to prominence during Game of Thrones final seasons. And Star Trek Discovery's beginning. And Jodie Whittaker's run as The Doctor. It was a fertile time for geek criticism.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 14, 2023 05:12 PM (k1Qly)

166 Wasn’t Black in a King Kong movie??

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:12 PM (PCK5/)

167 Speaking of overlong (pun intended) garbage, Ryan Long is fine, doing 3 minute skits.

Anything more than that, he gets real old, real fast.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:08 PM

If you'd said Ryan Gosling, I wouldn't ken your meaning.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 05:12 PM (a3Q+t)

168 I bet you like Melissa McCarthy movies.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:10 PM (Qd8NY)
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I've liked most. She's a decent actress.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:12 PM (krQz2)

169 If you watch the Starwars movie, the Starwars movie watches back.

Posted by: torabora channeling Nietszche at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (PgowF)

170 Star Wars? Meh. Along with all the Marvel Comics movies. Meh. It's aimed at adolescent and teen-age boys. And now teen aged girls and ...whatever. Not at me.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at September 14, 2023 05:08 PM (vcOmj)

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Which is exactly the point.

This in NOT War and Peace or anything else intellectual and nothing you can do will make it appeal to the intellectual crowd.

So why would they pour out the hate on the actual fans? You want to do Shakespeare, do Shakespeare.

You want to make money on Star Wars make Star Wars.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (91Bpy)

171 Wow, not one. I have come close. I saw The Hangover, and she was in Hangover3.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (aD39U)

172 Conceited, not conscientious- unless you are saying he is a man who sticks to his principles.

Of being a fat, unfunny slob.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:09 PM (867s5)

No, I'll stick with my word. I don't get the sense he's pretentious or in any way disingenuous. I think he really thinks he's funny. I don't think he is, but he does.

Compare him, for example, to a Chris Farley or John Candy. Both had that same conscientiousness, but those guys also demonstrated a more human, less farcical side, even when being outrageous.

Black's eyebrows are always raised, as if he has to try harder, and does.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (Qd8NY)

173 You should see the 12 hour EFAPs where people would knock off to take a nap for a few hours and come back on
Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:11 PM (eoQWY)

This. Or when they get off on being anti-religion. Dance, monkeys. Stay on target.

One good one is their streams on bad Halloween/slasher films.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (867s5)

174 I took another walk today. I'm so out of shape
I'm ashamed.
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 14, 2023 05:10 PM

Your fitness journey begins with a single step.

Posted by: The AoSHQ GAINZZZ Thread at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (a3Q+t)

175 Seems like we don’t have movie/actor grouphink..

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (PCK5/)

176 I was unaware of the existence of "Rise of Skywalker" so this whole post is a revelation.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at September 14, 2023 05:12 PM (UNQS9)
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Oh, now, you've made me envy you.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:14 PM (krQz2)

177 "They're so long-winded and time-consuming."

You play 'em in the background and casually listen like it's a baseball game on the radio.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 14, 2023 05:02 PM (k1Qly)

Play em at night on low volume and reset them when you wake up to some point. It isn't like you need to catch every word, and lately the thing is to make small clips in addition of the good things.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:14 PM (eoQWY)

178 Jack Black was in some movie with Tom Hank and Sissie Spacek's kids and...you think he has limitations as an actor?

It was like watching Robert Duvall with Joe Biden and Kamel-Toe Harris

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2023 05:14 PM (XqcwY)

179 Wasn’t Black in a King Kong movie??
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023

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He was -- he played the promoter who brought Kong to NYC, I think. It was a period piece set in the 1930s.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 05:14 PM (J2vNu)

180 Your fitness journey begins with a single step.
Posted by: The AoSHQ GAINZZZ Thread at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (a3Q+t)

The hardest part of running five miles is turning the door knob, well, and running five miles, but mostly...

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:15 PM (aD39U)

181 Seems like we don’t have movie/actor grouphink..
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM

TJM hasn't gotten the band back together yet.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 05:15 PM (a3Q+t)

182 Speaking of overlong (pun intended) garbage, Ryan Long is fine, doing 3 minute skits.

Anything more than that, he gets real old, real fast.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:08 PM (Qd8NY)

You need to listen to the Mitch McConnell Comedy Hour.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 14, 2023 05:15 PM (BdMk6)

183 I've liked most. She's a decent actress.
Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:12 PM (krQz2)

Egad. You are dead to me. DEAD. TO. ME.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:15 PM (Qd8NY)

184 You should see the 12 hour EFAPs where people would knock off to take a nap for a few hours and come back on

*************

My favorite are the TikTok livestreams of camgirls acting like NPCs and get paid by their audience to act out certain emojis

for hours

If you want to completely lose your faith in humanity and swear off this reality for all time, watching a few minutes of that should do it

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:16 PM (VTu1l)

185 Dude is right. Jack Black and Lizzo weren't all that great (Jack Black was *okay*, Lizzo was... well, she's obviously not an actress), but S3 had far worse issues.

Posted by: Caiwyn at September 14, 2023 05:16 PM (Bmy9A)

186 TJM hasn't gotten the band back together yet.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 05:15 PM (a3Q+t)
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Sounds almost a Promethean task.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (krQz2)

187

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (aD39U)

188 I watched the new Little Mermaid as my Daughter has Disney + and it wasn't as woke as I thought it would be.. Ariel though was weird looking...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (bs+z0)

189 Lizzo DOES have screen presence…

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (PCK5/)

190 Seems like we don’t have movie/actor grouphink..
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (PCK5/)

True. But if you're wondering which way to lean, pay attention to my comments, and ignore everyone else.

Good advice in general, really.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (Qd8NY)

191 His point is that ESPN was only able to drain money out of the wallets of cable subscribers because cable companies bundled ESPN's huge costs into everyone's bill -- including Aunt Gladys, who never, ever watched ESPN. ESPN viewers were therefore subsidized by millions and millions of Aunt Gladyses, who never watched ESPN and had no idea that $20 of every monthly cable bill was going right to ESPN.

And BET, and CMT, and probably MTV..... pretty long list of channels that were subsidized by cable bundling.

Posted by: pookysgirl very rarely watches actual television anymore at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (dtlDP)

192 I bet you like Melissa McCarthy movies.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023
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I've liked most. She's a decent actress.
Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023

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She was charming and funny as the hotel chef and friend to Lorelai in Gilmore Girls -- and gosh, that was almost 25 years ago. Who'd have thought Melissa would turn out to be a comic movie star and Lauren Graham didn't? (Hotness personified, is LG)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (J2vNu)

193 There can be great money in livestreams. There is a site called Playboard that tracks superchat revenue. Nerdrotic's lifetime superchat revenue is $800,000. I don't know if that includes YouTube's cut, but it's great money either way. Just for sitting in front of a camera in your house and yakking.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (xPl2J)

194 188 I watched the new Little Mermaid as my Daughter has Disney + and it wasn't as woke as I thought it would be.. Ariel though was weird looking...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (bs+z0)

The Innsmouth Look…

Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (PCK5/)

195 I've liked most. She's a decent actress.
Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:12 PM (krQz2)

Egad. You are dead to me. DEAD. TO. ME.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:15 PM (Qd8NY)
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Let me tell you about my favorite Wil Ferrell and Adam Sandler movies!

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (krQz2)

196 Lizzo DOES have screen presence…
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (PCK5/)

Lesser actors orbit her.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (aD39U)

197 I've liked most. She's a decent actress. Posted by: Axeman

***************

this man needs an intervention

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (VTu1l)

198 I can't believe I'm going to say this, but instead of talking about Jack Black, can we talk about something with more merit, like Prometheus?

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (KRtlO)

199 Lizzo DOES have screen presence…
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (PCK5/)

When they say she takes over the whole screen.....

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (Qd8NY)

200 Your fitness journey begins with a single step.
Posted by: The AoSHQ GAINZZZ Thread at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (a3Q

Thank you sense. Bows.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (ePrC6)

201 But if you're wondering which way to lean, pay attention to my comments, and ignore everyone else.

Good advice in general, really.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM

What's your position on Big Penguin?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (a3Q+t)

202 Lizzo has gravitas!

Posted by: TMZ writer, happy to have a byline at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (PiwSw)

203 So why would they pour out the hate on the actual fans? You want to do Shakespeare, do Shakespeare.

You want to make money on Star Wars make Star Wars.
Posted by: Just Lily at September 14, 2023 05:13 PM (91Bpy)

Crap for the rubes is high art for these people, much less Shakespeare. The tony crowd can sniff at me all they like, they don't ruin what I like.

The current 'elite' can't do either and don't like Shakespeare, who did have fart jokes and bloody scenes for the groundlings in the front row. They are here to instruct and punish like all bad academics which is were they came from.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:19 PM (eoQWY)

204 Ariel though was weird looking...

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Her eyes are further apart than my zip code

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:19 PM (VTu1l)

205 She was charming and funny as the hotel chef and friend to Lorelai in Gilmore Girls -- and gosh, that was almost 25 years ago. Who'd have thought Melissa would turn out to be a comic movie star and Lauren Graham didn't? (Hotness personified, is LG)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (J2vNu)
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I tend to call Graham "Shelly", which was her ditz character on Caroline in the City.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (krQz2)

206 Lizzo DOES have screen presence…
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (PCK5/)

She makes the widescreen wider. Like when bread dough gets out of hand.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Exactly Streets Ahead at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (T/Lqj)

207 Lizzo DOES have screen presence…
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (PCK5/)
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Lesser actors orbit her.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023

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*Neptune* orbits her

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (J2vNu)

208 >Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:16 PM (VTu1l)

Yeah, e-thots making bank off of NPC streams will do a lot to blackpill a guy.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (r0Q9B)

209 Rachel Zaglers eyes are far apart, too.
Yiiiiikes

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (Hkcdp)

210 Ace if course refused to mention Disney's 2022 revenue about 78 billion
Or it's gross profits about 28 billion
As for it's share price ? Everyone knew it was vastly over priced. It has returned to its Trump time stick price

Posted by: Paul at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (KlzmJ)

211 Ariel though was weird looking.

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Well she is part fish, so...

Posted by: Just Lily at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (91Bpy)

212 I can only take an interest in the financial/business side of the culture war because I don't watch their shit any longer, and have no frame of reference for the criticism.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (KRtlO)

213 Disney doesn't send their very best.

Posted by: torabora channeling Trump at September 14, 2023 05:21 PM (9s95R)

214 Lizzo has gravityass!
Posted by: TMZ writer, happy to have a byline at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (PiwSw)
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You left out some letters.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:21 PM (krQz2)

215 If you want to completely lose your faith in humanity and swear off this reality for all time, watching a few minutes of that should do it
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:16 PM (VTu1l)

Your watching of hours of CamGirls makes me lose some faith in you, Ranger

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:21 PM (eoQWY)

216 Lizzo has gravitas!
Posted by: TMZ writer, happy to have a byline at September 14, 2023

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You misspelled "gravity" . . . I estimate acceleration toward her center of mass at about 40 feet per second per second.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 05:21 PM (J2vNu)

217 She was charming and funny as the hotel chef and friend to Lorelai in Gilmore Girls -- and gosh, that was almost 25 years ago. Who'd have thought Melissa would turn out to be a comic movie star and Lauren Graham didn't? (Hotness personified, is LG)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (J2vNu)

*fistbump on Lauren Graham*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:21 PM (867s5)

218 I've actually stopped listening to almost every "geek criticism" channel just because I don't care about the product they're discussing any more.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:21 PM (KRtlO)

219 Disney doesn't send their very best.
Posted by: torabora channeling Trump at September 14, 2023 05:21 PM (9s95R)
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Unfortunately, they probably are.

Woke ruins everything.

Posted by: Axeman at September 14, 2023 05:21 PM (krQz2)

220 Yeah, e-thots making bank off of NPC streams will do a lot to blackpill a guy.

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That meme of a bloodied and beaten up Ryan Gosling from Blade Runner watching an NPC stream was pure gold

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:22 PM (VTu1l)

221 I will neither forgive nor forget Jack Black’s video shilling for the Iran Deal.

It was bananas.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2023 05:22 PM (Hkcdp)

222 The active shooter yesterday at chapel hill turned out to be a brother waving his piece around so that news story is never to be heard from again, yo.

Posted by: NC Kate at September 14, 2023 05:22 PM (an6os)

223 "When Worlds Collide" starring Lizzo and Brian Denahey.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 14, 2023 05:22 PM (N3zMI)

224 Lizzo DOES have screen presence…
Posted by: tubal at September 14, 2023 05:17 PM (PCK5/)
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How many cameras does she have on her?!

Posted by: Chandler Bing at September 14, 2023 05:23 PM (krQz2)

225 I can only take an interest in the financial/business side of the culture war because I don't watch their shit any longer, and have no frame of reference for the criticism.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (KRtlO)

That's whats good about the longform critics on Youtube, they show clips and bitch about the show for you and you can just nod along with them.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:23 PM (eoQWY)

226 Your watching of hours of CamGirls

***********

OnlyFans not CamGirls

I have standards

ok maybe a little chaturbate too

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:23 PM (VTu1l)

227 I've liked most. She's a decent actress. Posted by: Axeman

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I caught McCarthy doing a TV ad earlier this year with those twin brothers who have some kind of house renovation show. Her entire performance was facial expressions and body language, no dialogue, and she was hilarious.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 05:23 PM (J2vNu)

228 I can't believe I'm going to say this, but instead of talking about Jack Black, can we talk about something with more merit, like Prometheus?
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (KRtlO)

Now you've crossed The Thin Red Line.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:23 PM (aD39U)

229 I just saw a pretty good film with Melissa? about the writer who made up probably ALL the letters people pass around supposedly written by famous authors?

Can You Ever Forgive Me?

it was good, she did really well. completely unlikeable, which was the point of the role.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 14, 2023 05:24 PM (AcWfM)

230 209 Rachel Zaglers eyes are far apart, too.
Yiiiiikes
Posted by: Lizzy at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (Hkcdp)

Hey!

Posted by: Anya Taylor-Joy at September 14, 2023 05:24 PM (PiwSw)

231 >>>The hardest part of running five miles is turning the door knob, well, and running five miles, but mostly...

but there is a lot of wisdom in the advice: If you don't want to go running, fine, but just put your shoes and running clothes on. That's all. Just put the stuff on.

90% of the time, you'll wind up running.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:24 PM (KRtlO)

232 She was charming and funny as the hotel chef and friend to Lorelai in Gilmore Girls -- and gosh, that was almost 25 years ago. Who'd have thought Melissa would turn out to be a comic movie star and Lauren Graham didn't? (Hotness personified, is LG)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 14, 2023 05:18 PM (J2vNu)

Can't say I've ever seen it. I guess it's possible she's capable of toning it down. That's my biggest (heh) gripe with her, she always seems to be hamming (heh heh) it up.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:24 PM (cw9vy)

233 Ace if course refused to mention Disney's 2022 revenue about 78 billion
Or it's gross profits about 28 billion
As for it's share price ? Everyone knew it was vastly over priced. It has returned to its Trump time stick price
Posted by: Paul at September 14, 2023 05:20 PM (KlzmJ)

So are you paid by the DNC AND the Mouse?

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:24 PM (eoQWY)

234 Lauren Graham just totally ruined her image with that scene in Bad Santa you know the one!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 14, 2023 05:25 PM (AcWfM)

235 The hardest part of running was my knees. Damn, running sucks ass.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:25 PM (867s5)

236 If Disney has gross profits of 29000 millions of dollars
Then 200s of millions of dollars in loses are like office supplies costs

Posted by: Paul at September 14, 2023 05:25 PM (KlzmJ)

237 231 >>>The hardest part of running five miles is turning the door knob, well, and running five miles, but mostly...

but there is a lot of wisdom in the advice: If you don't want to go running, fine, but just put your shoes and running clothes on. That's all. Just put the stuff on.

90% of the time, you'll wind up running.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:24 PM (KRtlO)

Yup. Doing SOMETHING every day is important. It doesn't have to be the full octagon workout. But doing something really is 90% of the battle.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 05:25 PM (xcxpd)

238 >>>235 The hardest part of running was my knees. Damn, running sucks ass.

"walking with an athletic gait" -- pushing it, not just ambling -- is easy on the knees and is just as effective as running. Well, except that you have to do it for 2x-3x longer, which, yeah, I know, is a problem.

but still.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:26 PM (KRtlO)

239 Disney owes Comcast between 9 and 40 million million dollars soon.

They don't have it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:27 PM (aD39U)

240 I've actually stopped listening to almost every "geek criticism" channel just because I don't care about the product they're discussing any more.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:21 PM (KRtlO)

Yeah, that's basically it.

It's like caring for a hospice patient. Every time you get a moment to talk to other people, and all you have to talk about is how hard it is to take care of the dying patient... and the patient just goes on and on and on, living, eventually people get tired of hearing about your dying patient.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:27 PM (cw9vy)

241 "walking with an athletic gait"

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I think that's the middle ground, I don't think we're meant to constantly be running, which is really for survival e.g. fight or flight response. That's for when bears like Lizzo are chasing after us

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:27 PM (VTu1l)

242 If you don't want to go running, fine, but just put your shoes and running clothes on. That's all. Just put the stuff on.

90% of the time, you'll wind up running.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:24 PM (KRtlO)

People that give me that kind of advice don't know me very well.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 14, 2023 05:28 PM (BdMk6)

243 For years, Congress has resisted any attempts at "cafeteria style" cable where you only pick and pay for the ones you want. I'm curious who the roadblocks have been in Congress, and who's paying them.
I'm guessing CNN and other channels absolutely no one would pay for.

Posted by: Wally at September 14, 2023 05:28 PM (hqVaF)

244 wait ... thousand million dollars.

okay 9 to 40 billion.

I should quite trying to be clever.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:28 PM (aD39U)

245 I think that's the middle ground, I don't think we're meant to constantly be running, which is really for survival e.g. fight or flight response. That's for when bears like Lizzo are chasing after us
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:27 PM (VTu1l)

Huh. That would have put a spring in my step.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:28 PM (867s5)

246 Hey Paul, did the sides switch again? Because most of what you do is come here and simp for mega-corporations.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (r0Q9B)

247 Rachel Zaglers eyes are far apart, too.

She was in the Shazam movie and was...ok.

But they had her, Helen Mirren, and Lucy Liu all supposedly sisters from the same mother and father.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (XqcwY)

248 >>>235 The hardest part of running was my knees. Damn, running sucks ass.

"walking with an athletic gait" -- pushing it, not just ambling -- is easy on the knees and is just as effective as running. Well, except that you have to do it for 2x-3x longer, which, yeah, I know, is a problem.

but still.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 14, 2023 05:26 PM (KRtlO)

Audio books help with the extra time I found when I did more hiking.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (eoQWY)

249 I thought that until 2023 no Disney movies were released in china?

Posted by: Paul at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (KlzmJ)

250 ESPN also got political af and take themselves way too seriously.

People want to see scores they can check their phones.

Posted by: brak at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (BouGb)

251 Wanna know how much sports and news cost? Here's an example - albeit an indirect one.

YouTubeTV is YouTube's cable-replacement live TV streaming service. It's a cable package, just delivered over the internet with the YouTube app. It's $65/month to start, $73/month once the promo expires. Basically the same price as DirecTV for an equivalent lineup that includes cable news and a couple of ESPN channels.

Philo is a cable-replacement live TV streaming service. It's a cable package, just delivered over the internet. Unlike most of the other services, it does *not* include news or sports. It's *just* the "general entertainment" channels. It costs $25/month.

The news and sports cost $40-$50 per month as the customer. $40-$50 of your bill, every month, goes to news and sports. News and sports are responsible for most of the cable bill.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (t0OGg)

252 Hey!
Posted by: Anya Taylor-Joy at September 14, 2023 05:24 PM (PiwSw)

Except Anya Taylor-Joy is actually cute as heck.

That stupid mexican Snow Brown girl, ain't.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (cw9vy)

253 247 Rachel Zaglers eyes are far apart, too.

She was in the Shazam movie and was...ok.

But they had her, Helen Mirren, and Lucy Liu all supposedly sisters from the same mother and father.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (XqcwY)

Feminism ruined that movie

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (xcxpd)

254 I thought
Posted by: Paul at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (KlzmJ)

Did you strain yourself, Dunce?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:30 PM (aD39U)

255 @231: "90% of the time, you'll wind up running."

Maybe ninety percent of weird outliers, but the rest of us will crack open a beer, then wonder what kinda sickos enjoy running so much.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 14, 2023 05:30 PM (k1Qly)

256 More than half the US Senate looks like the original Star Wars bar scene. No joke.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2023 05:30 PM (uZV3n)

257 Except Anya Taylor-Joy is actually cute as heck.

That stupid mexican Snow Brown girl, ain't.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (cw9vy)

She looks like she is trying to figure out how your liver will taste.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:30 PM (867s5)

258 94 Hollywood accounting has long been completely full of crap. The one thing about Disney that cracked me up was they were including in profitability the money they got from selling stuff to Disney+. It's like the old SNL change skit, how do you make money on that? Volume
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 14, 2023 04:55 PM (/7iym)

————

You can throw in the sex, the drugs, treating non-star help like slaves. The shit studios get away with, all for “entertainment”.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 14, 2023 05:30 PM (cMXNt)

259 The hardest part of running was my knees. Damn, running sucks ass.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:25 PM (867s5)

I was always a good runner (In the Army I almost always maxed the PT score). I have not done so in a while, but my joints are all still in great shape. I bet I could get back into jogging pretty quickly. You know. Soon. Any day now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Exactly Streets Ahead at September 14, 2023 05:30 PM (T/Lqj)

260 I should quite trying to be clever.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:28 PM (aD39U)
++++
I thought you were making a funny play on the fact that nobody knows how much it *could* wind up costing Disney, but they stupidly put a floor under it so everyone knows *at least* how much it will cost Disney...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2023 05:31 PM (t0OGg)

261 I think that's the middle ground, I don't think we're meant to constantly be running, which is really for survival e.g. fight or flight response. That's for when bears like Lizzo are chasing after us
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 14, 2023 05:27 PM (VTu1l)

Huh. That would have put a spring in my step.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:28 PM (867s5)

Think we are pacers -- trot walk trot. I heard once that no animal can outdo men following them at their pace, the men will exhaust them eventually

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:31 PM (eoQWY)

262 I thought you were making a funny play on the fact that nobody knows how much it *could* wind up costing Disney, but they stupidly put a floor under it so everyone knows *at least* how much it will cost Disney...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 14, 2023 05:31 PM (t0OGg)

Err ... yes ... that's the ticket.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:32 PM (aD39U)

263 I was always a good runner (In the Army I almost always maxed the PT score). I have not done so in a while, but my joints are all still in great shape. I bet I could get back into jogging pretty quickly. You know. Soon. Any day now.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Exactly Streets Ahead at September 14, 2023 05:30 PM (T/Lqj)

Any military operation needs a good planning stage.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:32 PM (eoQWY)

264 Rachel Zegler is weird weird looking

Posted by: x at September 14, 2023 05:32 PM (frATP)

265 She looks like she is trying to figure out how your liver will taste.

Hey baby, I have a different organ for you to sample first

Posted by: Some Suave Moron at September 14, 2023 05:32 PM (XqcwY)

266 @259: "You know. Soon. Any day now."

*hands Pug Mahon a cold beer*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 14, 2023 05:33 PM (k1Qly)

267 She looks like she is trying to figure out how your liver will taste.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:30 PM (867s5)

Like she'll start to open her mouth wide, and another mouth will come out of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2023 05:33 PM (cw9vy)

268 Prolapse Paul beats off to Justim Timberlake in mouse ears.

Posted by: Epstein Island Roberts at September 14, 2023 05:34 PM (yJ432)

269 I bet I could get back into jogging pretty quickly. You know. Soon. Any day now.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Exactly Streets Ahead at September 14, 2023 05:30 PM (T/Lqj)

Me too, buddy.

I actually like the gainz threads because they do make me want to work out. Hard to do with the 12 hour shifts (or at least that is what I tell myself) but it IS motivation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:34 PM (867s5)

270 Rachel Zegler is weird weird looking
Posted by: x at September 14, 2023 05:32 PM (frATP)

She's a pollack. What do you expect?

Posted by: Robert at September 14, 2023 05:35 PM (1Yy3c)

271 I thought that until 2023 no Disney movies were released in china?
Posted by: Paul at September 14, 2023 05:29 PM (KlzmJ)

That's a hell of a thought. No reason for Disney to airbrush out the black guyin Star Wars for China if it isn't in China

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:35 PM (eoQWY)

272 I like Anya

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2023 05:35 PM (fwDg9)

273 Dogs know when someone is not good 😊
📽️ - Rustymetalcreation TikTok

----------

LOL. I had the exact same reaction to the Wicked Witch's appearance the first time I saw The Wizard of Oz at about age 5.

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 14, 2023 05:35 PM (1/k/v)

274 I actually like the gainz threads because they do make me want to work out. Hard to do with the 12 hour shifts (or at least that is what I tell myself) but it IS motivation.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:34 PM (867s5)

Mouse scrolling exercises a muscle group...

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:36 PM (eoQWY)

275 Hollywood Still on Strike ?????? I guess it really doesn't matter that much ????????????????

Posted by: Buster Hymandd at September 14, 2023 05:36 PM (R+nZe)

276 Sadly, thinking and planning to doing something releases just as many endorphins as actually doing it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:36 PM (aD39U)

277 By the way, I highly recommend reading the CNBC report Midnight's Edge's video is based on.

Disney is run by fucking retards.

Posted by: Robert at September 14, 2023 05:36 PM (1Yy3c)

278 Well, when you can make more on your money by keeping it at the Bailey Building and Loan, maybe you need a change in management... Just sayin'

Posted by: JM in Florida, now Illinois at September 14, 2023 05:36 PM (CO2Xj)

279 Wtf is it with these fish-eyed Hollywood girls all of a sudden? Little Mermaid, Taylor-Joy, that Zegler tramp. Does the eye positioning make them better at sucking dick on the casting couch?

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 14, 2023 05:36 PM (pz5mB)

280 Last email I sent to OM was a picture or Anya to be on Chess Thread, he couldn't wait to post it and never got to

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2023 05:36 PM (fwDg9)

281 272 I like Anya
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2023 05:35 PM (fwDg9)

https://tinyurl.com/d4d7j78s

I am just saying. The triangular head reminds me of a preying mantis.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:37 PM (867s5)

282 Shouldn't a mermaid have eyes on each side of her head?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 14, 2023 05:38 PM (ePrC6)

283 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:38 PM (867s5)

284 NOOD.. Trump.. I'm out of this one

Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2023 05:38 PM (bs+z0)

285 272 I like Anya
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2023 05:35 PM (fwDg9)

https://tinyurl.com/d4d7j78s

I am just saying. The triangular head reminds me of a preying mantis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:37 PM (867s5)

Big eyes, small chin = high estrogen

Your hindbrain notices.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:38 PM (aD39U)

286 Fish eyes help these Hollywood girls to see the Patriarch. Girls who can only see forward miss a lot of it.

Posted by: Wally at September 14, 2023 05:38 PM (hqVaF)

287 Wtf is it with these fish-eyed Hollywood girls all of a sudden? Little Mermaid, Taylor-Joy, that Zegler tramp. Does the eye positioning make them better at sucking dick on the casting couch?
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 14, 2023 05:36 PM (pz5mB)

you are pretty perverse if you spend millions on actors who can neither act nor look good, and back it up by writers who can't write.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:38 PM (eoQWY)

288 LOL. I had the exact same reaction to the Wicked Witch's appearance the first time I saw The Wizard of Oz at about age 5.
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 14, 2023 05:35 PM (1/k/v)

That movie creeped me the fuck out.

It was not just the Witch. It was the flying monkeys, and Scarecrow getting his guts ripped out.

I actually incorporated it into a short story I was working on where two brothers watched it in the theater and they had very different reactions to it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Exactly Streets Ahead at September 14, 2023 05:40 PM (T/Lqj)

289 Big eyes, small chin = high estrogen

Your hindbrain notices.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 14, 2023 05:38 PM (aD39U)

Could also be AI face filtering to hide wrinkles and lines. I notice these faces on the web where the eyeliner goes on top of the hair on the head sometimes, and the lines between the nose and face are just...gone.

A lot of those get to uncanny valley.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 14, 2023 05:40 PM (eoQWY)

290 Taylor-Joy, that Zegler tramp. Does the eye positioning make them better at sucking dick on the casting couch?
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 14, 2023 05:36 PM (pz5mB)

Like pronghorn antelope. Better to see the prey, I suppose.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Exactly Streets Ahead at September 14, 2023 05:41 PM (T/Lqj)

291 I like Anya
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2023 05:35 PM (fwDg9)

https://tinyurl.com/d4d7j78s

I am just saying. The triangular head reminds me of a preying mantis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:37 PM (867s5)

Bitch look crazy.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 14, 2023 05:42 PM (BdMk6)

292 I liked Rogue One.

Posted by: Ann at September 14, 2023 05:43 PM (4neFu)

293 *sigh*

LAST!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Exactly Streets Ahead at September 14, 2023 05:43 PM (T/Lqj)

294 https://tinyurl.com/d4d7j78s

I am just saying. The triangular head reminds me of a preying mantis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 14, 2023 05:37 PM (867s5)

——-

I take Delta 8 and when I’m high enough and watching a movie the actors’ makeup becomes very obvious. Sorta like that photo where that girl wouldn’t be a Chili’s 5 without the four layers paint professionally smeared on her face.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 14, 2023 05:44 PM (cMXNt)

295 "Instead of emotionally cursing, maybe the Speaker should just keep his word from January on balanced budgets, term limits and single-subject spending bills," he [Gaetz] told The Hill.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2023 05:44 PM (lCWOD)

296 Isn't swimming much more aerobic and less stressful on the joints than running?

Posted by: GanGanowicz at September 14, 2023 05:45 PM (AxRGS)

297
I'm going to avoid the obvious jokes and say, I wish you could too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo

The "All 'Prometheus', All the Time!" podcast

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 14, 2023 05:55 PM (xG4kz)

298
I take Delta 8 and when I’m high enough and watching a movie the actors’ makeup becomes very obvious. Sorta like that photo where that girl wouldn’t be a Chili’s 5 without the four layers paint professionally smeared on her face.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

"I take Olds Delta 88 when I'm loaded to the gills and keeping it between the white lines is beyond me."

-- Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 14, 2023 05:58 PM (xG4kz)

299 I think I'm going to have to watch tonight's game on Amazon Prime. That's a bonus since I already have Prime, but I'd probably skip it if I didn't have Jalen Hurts on my Fantasy team.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 14, 2023 06:14 PM (2cS/G)

300 Ace, Thank you for writing this essay which is exactly on target.
Fauci in fact was in the Senior Executive Service and thus subject to firing by the President.

Posted by: Roland F Hirsch at September 14, 2023 06:16 PM (oMkPq)

301 My apology, this was for the post above this one.

Posted by: Roland F Hirsch at September 14, 2023 06:17 PM (oMkPq)

302 Twenty years ago, George Steinbrenner had a huge fight with Cablevision in New York. He demanded that his YES network be part of Cablevision's standard package (ie, Aunt Gladys pays for the Yankee games she never watches) instead of an add-on. Just before Opening Day, Cablevision gave in. At the time, Cablevision's subscriptions jumped enormously (don't ask me how I know, but I do). However, given cord-cutting, it's not just Cablevision's revenue that's down: the YES network is also tanking. Which means that Major League Baseball is in serious trouble. MLB's contract with the players' union terminates after the 2025 season. It would not surprise me if the owners demand a salary cap, and it would not surprise me if there is no 2026 season as a result.

Posted by: Nemo at September 14, 2023 06:20 PM (S6ArX)

303 Good day! This post couldn't be written any better! Reading this post reminds me
of my old room mate! He always kept talking about this. I will forward
this page to him. Fairly certain he will have a good read.
Thanks for sharing!

Posted by: private datacenter Proxies at September 14, 2023 09:19 PM (drGoG)

304 Haven't seen anything from Star Wars in 20 years, but leaving out the biggest chunk of revenue - licensing and merchandise makes this a junk analysis.

Posted by: Rob at September 15, 2023 09:06 AM (bX9y7)

305 'Soylo.'
I'm dying. You should write for South Park!

Posted by: Chuck Moss at September 16, 2023 07:52 AM (zmawo)

306 "The era of cable and satellite cord cutting began in the fall of 2014."

I would have pegged it a bit earlier. My family stopped subscribing to cable (other than a package of local channels only) around 2003 or 2004, and we were watching Netflix's streaming service in our living room by somewhere around 2010 or 2012. I guess we were early adopters.

"if you care who wins games or simply enjoy watching those games, we're all about to have to pay a ton more for that privilege."

I agree, though without the "Aunt Gladys's" to subsidize ESPN and other cable sports channels, maybe athlete salaries and other sports team expenses will decrease, as team owners realize that the pie is smaller now. But the bottom line is that the sports teams and leagues will charge as much as the market will bear. I'm hoping it won't bear as much as it has in recent decades.

Posted by: PH at September 16, 2023 04:02 PM (kPQ8X)

307 09/20/23:

"So [Disney] claimed these five films cost $1.3 billion.

"But the actual costs are $2.29 billion."

Which reinforces what I've been saying all along --- "woke" corporations, "banks" (in reality, nothing but Political Action Committees) --- are Mafia-type bust-outs.

Loot the tills and abandon the husks.

Worked for a while.

Until they busted out their own share price.

Smart. Very smart.

Posted by: Don at September 20, 2023 10:48 PM (OLgLm)

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