Saturday Morning Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

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Your questions are answered:
1) Yes.
2) Don't ask.

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A couple of prayers. I pray I am never chased by a Grizzly Bear or upset Mamma Moose.

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Before the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping items. (Rulz)

1) Please opine and/or bloviate away in this open thread.
1A) Lurking is fine too.
2) Be kind to those who need it, even Hector needs kindness.
3) Are your shoe laces tied? Are your shoe's Velcro straps secured? Are your shoe's zippers zipped? If they are you are free to run about the house with sharp objects.
4) Have a fun weekend and/or don't get caught.

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AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List
Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo atsign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.
Prayer Requests:
8/16 – P asked for prayers for her nephew R, out east. He suffers from Chiari malformation – his brain doesn’t quite fit in his skull, so part of it protrudes from the base. He has suffered all his life with migraines and dizziness, which makes it nearly impossible to keep a job. A neurosurgical specialist will operate on him on 8/21. Please pray that the operation is successful, and he will be able to live a much more normal life.
8/25 Update – The operation was successful, so far. He no longer has headaches and nausea. But he cannot yet bend, twist, or life anything, so he doesn’t know if that will trigger the symptoms again. Please keep praying for him and his wife, who is providing all basic body care now.
8/19 Eromero requested prayers for his friend Lloyd as he transfers from ortho rehab to assisted living. He is having some confusion and needs clarity of mind. Lloyd’s wife, and Mr. and Mrs. Eromero could also use prayers as they try to provide care.
8/19 – Coelacanth asks for continued prayers. There are problems with his son Cam. Cam has been concealing many things for many years and has been lying to his family. His mother is heartbroken.
8/24 Update – Cam is still suffering with his significant health issues, and his mental state is unstable. He is making decisions based on feelings, and guided by bad advice, will not consider his parents’ cautions.
9/9 Update – Coelacanth and his wife have had the “adult” conversation with Cam, since he had been misusing the money they’d sent. They did pay off his student loans, per their original promise, and Cam called to thank them. He still has a lot of medical problems, and so much has been taken away in the last 6 months – he went from an Olympic class athlete to needing a cane to keep his balance. Prayers are still needed.
8/19 – Sock Monkey could use prayers for his wife’s younger brother and his family. They lost everything in the Gray fire, west of Spokane. So far Sock Monkey is still at home, about 4 miles from the fire evacuation area.
8/19 – Free Tibet has a biopsy coming up and asked for prayers for a good outcome. He says it’s been a long two years.
9/2 Update – The biopsy showed it was malignant, however the resulting surgery is said to have removed it all. Thanks to all for the prayerful support.
8/23 – A concern was brought up in the comments that applies to many churches nowadays. Prayers are needed for churches (members and leaders) to remain faithful to the Bible. Some congregations are resigning from church denominations that have chosen to teach something other than Biblical Christianity. Some people are having to separate from their church homes, due to the false teaching occurring. Please pray for people to have the knowledge and strength to remain faithful to the Word.
8/23 – Tonypete asked for prayers for Miss R, which is having a procedure done. She sometimes has very poor reactions to them, so it’s a bit worrying.
8/26 – Tecumseh Tea requested prayers for herself and her husband. They are going through a difficult time in their marriage. They are committed and will see it through, but asks for prayers that God will heal their marriage and help them each see what needs to change.
9/9 Update – Thank you for the prayers and please keep them coming. They are felt, and God is at work in us. They have been through difficulties the last 3.5 years and stopped dealing with things in their marriage. They are dealing with them now and relying on God’s strength and grace.
8/26 – Jewells45 posted that she could use prayers. Her last round of chemo was tough on her.
9/9 Update – The CT scan found another spot on her upper left lung that is about 6 mm. The rest of the nodes showed no change, and a few very small ones in both lower lungs. The doctor was concerned enough to order a PET scan, which was then scheduled for 11/29!
8/26 – Dash my Lace Wings asked for continued prayers. Her husband is still sober but needs to develop some interests to keep his mind and body busy – something that will give him joy and purpose in life.
8/26 – Farmer Bob provided an update. Mrs. Bob came for a weeklong visit, but she only stayed a day. She said reconciliation was too much work, and that she was feeling too free and unburdened without him and the kids, and so she left without saying goodbye to the girls. She has been posting party pictures to Facebook that the girls are seeing, which is hurting them. And she has served Farmer Bob with divorce papers. On the bright side, he has lost 115 pounds, started flight school, and most importantly, is closer to God and his girls than ever.
8/26 – Fox2! requested prayers for an old friend, T, who lost her husband unexpectedly. She is not amused by all the contradictory information and direction she is getting from her husband’s employer, insurance, and soon to begin adventures with the local probate court. And then she had to put her horse down. Prayers are greatly appreciated.
8/26 –Don Draper said his mother is expected to pass this week. Prayers, good wishes and thoughts are again requested, this time for her soul to have a safe journey. Thanks to all who gave prayers before.
8/27 – ghbucky asked for prayers for his oldest brother’s wife (both in their 80s and very dear to him) has been hospitalized and intubated due to pneumonia, likely due to covid. This means she cannot have visitors and his brother is under quarantine. She is very feeble and has been dealing with circulatory issues. Ghbucky fears the worst.
8/28 – Fenelon Spoke is concerned for a friend of a friend named Mike (age 39) who had major gastric surgery. He is now on breathing apparatus because he wasn’t doing well. The nurses are on strike, so the patients are not getting the care they need. Prayers are appreciated.
8/29 – Swodog asked for prayers as the hurricane was headed toward his house. The family is all safely inland, but their home may be washed away.
8/29 – Mpfs requested prayers for healing of his tooth, which turned out to be a fistula, and very painful. Oral surgery is scheduled.
8/30 – Debby Doberman Schultz asked for prayers. Her husband passed away on 8/30, with her sitting beside him, holding his hand. The kids had been in and out, but the end it was like the beginning - just the two of them. As painful as it was, she wouldn’t have it any other way. She is so gratified that he is relieved of his suffering.
9/2 – Oddbob’s granddaughter was released from the hospital. Since then, she has had only one seizure so it seems like the meds and keto diet are working. The docs say she might grow out of it in a few years but of course can’t promise anything. If not, she and her parents are in for a lifelong process of monitoring, controlling, and coping. He thanks everyone for their prayers and concern.
9/2 – Skip shared his concerns about his aunt and uncle, who are moving to a retirement community soon. His uncle is not doing well, mentally or physically. Skip hopes for more peace for them.
9/8 – Inogame requested prayers for his wife and their next daughter, due in March. Please help pray for health. His wife is struggling with morning sickness, but otherwise both are healthy. He also sends thanks for the Horde’s prayers of support, both now and when they had miscarriages in the past.
9/9 – Jewells asked for prayers for her brother-in-law and his wife. The brother-in-law has been diagnosed with dementia. He is diabetic and cannot give himself his injections, and he refuses to let his wife help him. He also refuses to stay home, even getting into the car with strangers to get away. Please pray for strength and wisdom for her, and for him to accept the changes that have to happen.
9/9 – NaughtyPine asked for prayers for one of her brothers. He’d been in the hospital for a week after a breakdown. This is the strong brother, the one who takes care of everyone else and never asks for anything.
9/9 – San Franpsycho sent some updates: Paul, who we have been praying for as he deals with cancer, was admitted to the hospital last week for an ulcer. The NG tube was removed, and he will be able to eat soon. The other update is that Mrs. F. is feeling better in the ER, after 2 fluid IVs.
9/9 – RedMindBlueState requested prayers. His brother-in-law’s mother was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and is not doing well. Prayers also for the family at this difficult time.
9/14 – creeper asked for prayers for a man who has destroyed his back after years of hard physical labor. He can’t have any more back surgery, so he is having an electronic nerve stimulator put in. Prayers that it would work would be appreciated.
9/14 – FenelonSpoke requested prayers for Jessie, their church organist. She hasn’t been able to play at church for a while, but she is back in the hospital. Prayers are appreciated!
For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.
Romans 8:26-27
26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.

Thank you Annie for your work.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 09:05 AM

Comments

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1 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 09:06 AM (T4tVD)

2 ME please
Afib
Now facing drugs or maybe the ablation treatment

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 16, 2023 09:08 AM (BRHaw)

3 Had coffee and nectarine for break time

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 09:08 AM (fwDg9)

4 This is not the book thread, as was announced below.

Huffs off....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:09 AM (ZJj0q)

5 3) Because.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 16, 2023 09:09 AM (aQy7p)

6 The Diaper Barista should try sticking that cup of coffee down his diaper.

More coffee…

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 16, 2023 09:09 AM (R/m4+)

7 Prayers for all intentions - those requested and those known but to God. Also, please pray for a young mother nearby that is suffering from some rare illness. The last I talked to her she related that she wanted to live long enough that her todler would remember her.

She's doing well right now though. But wow.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2023 09:10 AM (IaTa3)

8 Prayers for all, spoken and unspoken. I ask for God's healing and provision in all things for each of us.

Posted by: Moki at September 16, 2023 09:10 AM (JrN/x)

9 Morning. Hoping you all have a day that is either productive or restful, whichever your body and soul truly need. Coffee cups up!

Posted by: Barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at September 16, 2023 09:10 AM (hBG3V)

10 This is not the book thread, as was announced below.

Huffs off....
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:09 AM

Wait! I was gonna make espresso!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 16, 2023 09:10 AM (aQy7p)

11 Prayers for all. I'm away for a nieces wedding today. Prayers for her and hubby for a happy and fruitful marriage if you would. Thanks.
Ps I'm weekending in the Hamptons, never thought I'd ever say that. Marrying a Montauk fisherman, not Hampton money. I approve.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 16, 2023 09:11 AM (3VVZ2)

12 Prayers for all, spoken and unspoken. I ask for God's healing and provision in all things for each of us.
Posted by: Moki at September 16, 2023 09:10 AM (JrN/x)

Seconded !

Hiya Moki !

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 09:12 AM (T4tVD)

13 G'morning, Horde.

Thank you to the Moron who made sure Annie got the prayer request for Q, my friend with the worn-out back.

Temporary stimulator was implanted day before yesterday. Evidently there's a learning curve with this machine. It does seem to help and if the improvement continues they'll install a permanent one. Post-op discomfort makes it hard to assess any progress.

Thank you all so much for the prayers. I knew you could help. Hugs to every last member of Teh Horde.

Posted by: creeper at September 16, 2023 09:13 AM (cTCuP)

14 Hiya JT!!!!!

I hope you are enjoying a beautiful morning! It's cool and the trees are turning here, and my dog almost caught a fox this morning!

Posted by: Moki at September 16, 2023 09:13 AM (JrN/x)

15 rhennigantx - and prayers for you too my friend. Perhaps your Drs. will be able to get rid of your Afib. I suffered from it for years and an ablation finally took care of it permanently.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2023 09:14 AM (IaTa3)

16 Please pray for my sister, who is in the final throes of hospice. Please pray that she will pass on so that her suffering will stop. Prayers are much appreciated.

Posted by: LMD at September 16, 2023 09:14 AM (xgZU5)

17 She's doing well right now though. But wow.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2023 09:10 AM (IaTa3)

Heartbreaking. Prayers said.

Good morning, horde. Prayers for all of you, and your loved ones. I'm off shortly to a funeral--a work friend died in an auto accident early this week. Sad week.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 16, 2023 09:15 AM (OX9vb)

18 My Aung and Uncle completed their move Thursday, a end of a long history and sad occasion to me, no doubt to them. Their house has been the focus of family gathering for decades. Before they bought it it was owned by our then pastor who had boys my age so spent a lot of time their as a young teenager.

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 09:15 AM (fwDg9)

19 I saw a video of idiot tourists running toward a black bear sow with cubs the other day. Some people are just too stupid to live except in captivity.

Posted by: huerfano at September 16, 2023 09:16 AM (7zEAH)

20 LMD

Prayers for your sister, and all others, asked and unasked.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:16 AM (ZJj0q)

21 Prayers up for all of the Horde and those in their lives.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 16, 2023 09:16 AM (aQy7p)

22 Prayers for your friend too Dash - any movement on dear Hubby discovering some diversions?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2023 09:16 AM (IaTa3)

23
Thank you all so much for the prayers. I knew you could help. Hugs to every last member of Teh Horde.

Posted by: creeper at September 16, 2023 09:13 AM (cTCuP)

Happy to hear Q, (as they would say) tolerated the procedure well.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Frozen Tundra at September 16, 2023 09:18 AM (aA3+G)

24 Had coffee and nectarine for break time
Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 09:08 AM (fwDg9)

Didja dunk the nectarine ?

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 09:19 AM (T4tVD)

25 Nursing a flair-up of gout in my foot this morning. Painful. Woke me up at 3AM and by 5 I'd had enough and took some Motrin.

It's going to be a nice day and I would have liked to have been out and about.

Not today....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 09:19 AM (Q4IgG)

26 I have been bluff charged by a mama black bear. I have been charged by a bull moose. I have been stared down by a mama moose. Pucker factor on the moose is slightly higher than the bear. Not sure about grizzlies. Watched one destroy our burn barrel from the deck in Soldotna. Very humbling.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 16, 2023 09:19 AM (tfTvi)

27 VIA,

Hope your cataract procedure is going well. I'm having it done shortly and am following your progress.

Posted by: JTB at September 16, 2023 09:19 AM (7EjX1)

28 Nothing yet, Tonypete.

We decided we'd learn to knit, to keep our hands busy during the winter hours. So far, I'm learning to knit and he is not. Heh. He wants to be an expert immediately, and loses interest in difficult things very quickly.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 16, 2023 09:19 AM (OX9vb)

29 Prayers for all of you. Also, a huge thanks to Annie for her work.

Posted by: Don Draper at September 16, 2023 09:19 AM (564wD)

30 Happy Saturday! Lots of suffering out there, but remember that God permits this to call us all to Him. It's a fact: peace, prosperity and material wealth inevitably lead to corruption, decadence and smug disbelief in God.

By turning back to Him, we find not only healing but true peace.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 09:21 AM (llXky)

31 I don't dunk much of anything in coffee, biscotti might be only thing

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 09:21 AM (fwDg9)

32 NGU, you are aware that Ben Has shows you are TAD to Corsicana 18-22OCT23, right?

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 09:22 AM (z3WCn)

33 Creeper my mom had one and yes there is a learning curve but it did help her a lot with her back pain.

Thanks to all for the prayers.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at September 16, 2023 09:22 AM (iF0sF)

34 That's Ben Had Moron Admin.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 09:23 AM (z3WCn)

35 Dash. Jigsaw puzzles?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 16, 2023 09:23 AM (BeJjr)

36 Thanks MH. Prayer time, which happens frequently throughout the day when I'm not having a squirrel panel discussion, is the one thing that tethers me to sanity. Prayers for all in our grey box community. Those in need and those who don't realize they need.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 16, 2023 09:24 AM (tfTvi)

37 I'm close to taking the position of defunding the police. I've seen a critical mass of audit videos from across the country from major cities to small towns exposing too much thuggery, idiotic incompetence, excessive force, cronyism and total absence of accountability. We need to look at public safety in a new way.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 16, 2023 09:25 AM (5GiIq)

38 Happy Saturday!
Prayers for the horde - love to see the updates with good news.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 16, 2023 09:25 AM (izj35)

39 Eromero, follow up email in the works.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 16, 2023 09:26 AM (BeJjr)

40 Lots of suffering out there, but remember that God permits this to call us all to Him. It's a fact: peace, prosperity and material wealth inevitably lead to corruption, decadence and smug disbelief in God.

At times we pray that our Father would remove something afflicting us when His purpose is to make us stronger.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 16, 2023 09:26 AM (tfTvi)

41 I don't dunk much of anything in coffee, biscotti might be only thing
Posted by: Skip

I changed my biscotti by only baking them once. It turns out I like them softer right from the get go. Monocotti maybe?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2023 09:26 AM (IaTa3)

42 No prohibitions on introducing 'ette pigtails to the inkwells. Now I can't rebel against the cause.

Darn.

* detects inner-James Dean draining away *

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 16, 2023 09:27 AM (a3Q+t)

43 Something I learned this week: In Malta, Mary is venerated as Our Lady of Victories - note the plural.

She is credited with the defeat of the Ottoman siege in the 1500s, which was lifted on Sept. 8. Centuries later, Malta was under siege again, this time by the Axis powers. On Sept. 8, 1943, Italy surrendered to the Allies, so that's Her second victory for Malta.

Of course, Sept. 12 is the anniversary of the 1683 Battle of Vienna and the victory there is also attributed to Marian intercession. Oct. 7 is of course the feast day for Our Lady of Victory, remembering Her role through the Rosary in achieving the defeat of the Ottoman fleet at Lepanto in 1571.

When a statue of Mary was vandalized at our parish recently, my first thought was that those responsible better repent and quickly.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 09:27 AM (llXky)

44 >>I saw a video of idiot tourists running toward a black bear sow with cubs the other day. Some people are just too stupid to live except in captivity.

Not just stupid in getting themselves killed, but then they'd have to put down the mama bear for simply protecting her cubs. Stupid AND cruel.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 16, 2023 09:28 AM (izj35)

45 Dash my Wig,

He might like spinning. Guys seem to like spinning wheels. Could keep you in yarn.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 16, 2023 09:29 AM (Ds/Wi)

46 42 No prohibitions on introducing 'ette pigtails to the inkwells. Now I can't rebel against the cause.

Darn.

* detects inner-James Dean draining away *
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 16, 2023 09:27 AM (a3Q+t)

The old reverse psychology trick works again.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Frozen Tundra at September 16, 2023 09:30 AM (aA3+G)

47 I'm close to taking the position of defunding the police. I've seen a critical mass of audit videos from across the country from major cities to small towns exposing too much thuggery, idiotic incompetence, excessive force, cronyism and total absence of accountability. We need to look at public safety in a new way.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 16, 2023 09:25 AM (5GiIq)
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This is a category error, same as with Floyd. Our police dept. is polite and professional, yet because people were mad, they beat them up, reviled them, cut funding, etc.

Cops quit, crime went up, and the folly of punishing the innocent for the deeds of the guilty was made manifest.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 09:31 AM (llXky)

48 That's Ben Had Moron Admin.
Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 09:23 AM

Ben Had's been promoted to Moron Admin?

* slicks back hair *
* pops Tic-Tac *
* quickly picks a bouquet of dandelions *
* looks for ~~bottle~~ vase to put them in *
* throws dandelions away *
* obtains a bottle of Napa red *
* puts bottle on Ben Had's desk *

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 16, 2023 09:31 AM (a3Q+t)

49 He might like spinning. Guys seem to like spinning wheels. Could keep you in yarn.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 16, 2023 09:29 AM (Ds/Wi)
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I love the spinning wheels!

Posted by: Blood, Sweat and Tears at September 16, 2023 09:31 AM (llXky)

50 25 ... "Nursing a flair-up of gout in my foot this morning."

Martini Farmer,

Haven't had a flare up for some years but when I did I found a few spoonsful of cherries, fresh or canned, really helped alleviate the gout.

Posted by: JTB at September 16, 2023 09:31 AM (7EjX1)

51 I put ghee in my coffee. I'm a gheezer.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 09:32 AM (NBVIP)

52 "Hope your cataract procedure is going well. I'm having it done shortly and am following your progress."

Final follow up shows near 20/20 in the left eye due to the different lens that we chose. Around 20/40 in the right eye due to the retina surgery earlier preventing use of the same type lens as the left eye.

Both procedures were effortless, and should not be feared.

The requirement for reading glasses is a little more pronounced than I anticipated, but acceptable.

I am having issues with the left eye due to oil glands on the eyelid getting gummed up and preventing proper tear production, but with warm compresses, that should clear up.

Overall, glad I did it, as night driving had become impossible due to halo effect with the cataracts.

Best way to describe the "Oh, the colors are amazing' post surgery is that prior to surgery, imagine if everything is lit with a warm white incandescent light bulb, and afterward, a cool white bulb. Distinct shift from yellow toward blue spectrum afterward.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:33 AM (ZJj0q)

53 And one more for Dash My Lace Wigs,

http://gansey.blogspot.com/?m=1

This is a guy that got interested in fisherman sweaters. He's obsessive about it. Learned to spin his own yarn too. He's a bit of a jerk but might spark something for your husband.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 16, 2023 09:34 AM (Ds/Wi)

54 do y'all keep your maple syrup in the fridge?

Posted by: DB - hey now you betcha at September 16, 2023 09:34 AM (geLO8)

55 I don't dunk much of anything in coffee, biscotti might be only thing
Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 09:21 AM (fwDg9)

You workin' today ?

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 09:35 AM (T4tVD)

56 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 16, 2023 09:35 AM (u82oZ)

57 Salty!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:35 AM (ZJj0q)

58 NaCly, dearest. Please check your email.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 16, 2023 09:36 AM (BeJjr)

59 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 16, 2023 09:36 AM (ju2Fy)

60 do y'all keep your maple syrup in the fridge?
Posted by: DB - hey now you betcha at September 16, 2023 09:34 AM

You mean when it's not momentarily resting on French Toast?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 16, 2023 09:37 AM (a3Q+t)

61 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Thanks for that illuminating report from the deckplates.

*Respectful tip of the hat to your LPO son*

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 16, 2023 09:37 AM (u82oZ)

62 Thanks to all for the prayers.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at September 16, 2023 09:22 AM (iF0sF)

You're welcome !

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 09:37 AM (T4tVD)

63 Notsothoreau, bookmarked it, thanks!

*He's a bit of a jerk, too, lol, and will not be put off by same.

I think once I learn, and can help him, he may gain interest. I'm still struggling with it myself. I've only been working on it for a week.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 16, 2023 09:37 AM (OX9vb)

64 {{{Ben Had}}}

🎼 ♭ 5/4 ♫♫ ♫♫ Good morning! ♬♬ ♩ ♪

As you wish.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 16, 2023 09:38 AM (u82oZ)

65 do y'all keep your maple syrup in the fridge?

Posted by: DB - hey now you betcha at September 16, 2023 09:34 AM (geLO

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We keep several things in the fridge that don't need it because:

1. We like them served chilled
2. It's convenient

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 09:38 AM (llXky)

66 Helpful article on maple syrup storage

https://tinyurl.com/5n75wvxt

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:40 AM (ZJj0q)

67 uh, that's brioche French toast, thank you

but cold syrup on pancakes and stuff- seems wrong

Posted by: DB - hey now you betcha at September 16, 2023 09:40 AM (geLO8)

68 I thought today was Sunday !

DUH !

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 09:40 AM (T4tVD)

69 Any update on the Paxton impeachment vote?

I know it was delayed earlier.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:41 AM (ZJj0q)

70 Recently came into some maple flavored agave. Delicious.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 09:42 AM (NBVIP)

71 Good morning, horde.
By the grace of God bless you all.

Posted by: Inogame at September 16, 2023 09:42 AM (D/9Qo)

72 28 ... Dash my lace wigs,

I understand his wish to be excellent immediately. I had the same attitude. If knitting is too long a process, perhaps some simple whittling projects would suit him (if he is steady enough with a small whittling knife). A Flexcut inch and a half whittling knife is a good choice and it's easy to maintain a good edge. There are a bunch of simple whittling videos on YT that can be done with small pieces of wood. Things like 'the 5 minute owl or wizard. (They take longer for beginners.) Check the Linker channel on YT.

Also, check out "Woodcarving Illustrated" magazine. It covers choosing and maintaining tools and projects from highly advanced to the simplest. Just seeing an issue might spark his interest, if he has any. I find whittling to be very absorbing.

Posted by: JTB at September 16, 2023 09:46 AM (7EjX1)

73 No, no work today. Heard next week is light too do taking Tuesday off to get truck inspection.

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 09:46 AM (fwDg9)

74 Looks like today is the day that either the Bush era ends in Texas or the day that the Uniparty cements it hold.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 16, 2023 09:47 AM (u73oe)

75 Duke Lowell, apt description.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 16, 2023 09:48 AM (BeJjr)

76 JTB

Also, if I don't get any update from LenNeal about those paperback books, and how to ship them, I believe your wife wanted them still.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:48 AM (ZJj0q)

77 52 ... VIA,
Thanks for the report. It is encouraging.

Posted by: JTB at September 16, 2023 09:48 AM (7EjX1)

78 Prayers offered for all those listed, and for all those whose prayers are only known to them and God.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 16, 2023 09:49 AM (UcAQV)

79 There’s no evidence that Paxton did anything wrong other than defeat George P in the primary.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 16, 2023 09:50 AM (u73oe)

80 Looks like today is the day that either the Bush era ends in Texas or the day that the Uniparty cements it hold.

Someone -- I forget who -- posits that politicians are permanently locked into whatever mindset they had when they were first elected. Most of the TX Senate came into office during the period of Bush ascendency. Things will change but slowly.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 16, 2023 09:50 AM (nfrXX)

81 Salty...

Yes, Little VIA gives some good insight into the decollate environment, and the lack of embracing the militaries new Woke culture.

I expect recruitment to continue to be abysmal until that is resolved.

The southern states have always been considered the 'Golden Triangle' for military enlistments, and the south don't play stupid 'Woke'games.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:51 AM (ZJj0q)

82 Enjoying my second cup of coffee while listening to the harmonious sounds of Mexican bagpipes.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 09:52 AM (NBVIP)

83 Frankly I’m surprised the drunkards in the Texas senate are up this early on a Saturday.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 16, 2023 09:53 AM (u73oe)

84 "There’s no evidence that Paxton did anything wrong other than defeat George P in the primary."

Someone still believes in the need for evidence to convict.

That's so cute.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:53 AM (ZJj0q)

85 He's a bit of a jerk . . . .
Posted by: Notsothoreau

I'm right here you know!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2023 09:54 AM (IaTa3)

86 decollate=deckplate

F'n autocucumber.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:54 AM (ZJj0q)

87 76 ... "if I don't get any update from LenNeal about those paperback books, and how to ship them, I believe your wife wanted them still."

VIA, Yep! If it falls through, Mrs. JTB is definitely interested.

Posted by: JTB at September 16, 2023 09:54 AM (7EjX1)

88 Someone still believes in the need for evidence to convict.

————-

Yes, I’m old fashioned that way.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 16, 2023 09:54 AM (u73oe)

89 "VIA, Yep! If it falls through, Mrs. JTB is definitely interested."

Will keep y'all posted.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:54 AM (ZJj0q)

90 VIA, no word here.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 16, 2023 09:55 AM (BeJjr)

91 Ben Had

Thanks!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:56 AM (ZJj0q)

92
One of my fondest memories from being stationed in Alaska lo these many years ago is being on the land navigation course and seeing a momma moose chasing a brand-new 2LT butterbar through the woods.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 16, 2023 09:57 AM (n+4am)

93 Prayers up for all.

Gout: my doctor prescribed me allopurinol after several attacks. My FIL and a friend swore by it. Had to figure out the dosage but since then (knocks on wood) no flare up’s.

Posted by: Mick at September 16, 2023 09:57 AM (sVc11)

94 ITC, savage amusement.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 16, 2023 09:58 AM (BeJjr)

95 We, here in Toontown NV lost a community bedrock yesterday.
The Kit Kat Whorehouse burned down.
No whores were lost but they now have no house. No word on if the other houses have taken them in.
I saw a couple that had joined a herd of ferral horses and were wandering around in a field.

Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 09:59 AM (B705c)

96 "ITC, savage amusement."

Pain and fear are excellent teachers.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:59 AM (ZJj0q)

97
do not trust autocorrect
do not look directly at autocorrect
if autocorrect begins to smoke, run away and tell an adult

Posted by: DB - hey now you betcha at September 16, 2023 10:00 AM (geLO8)

98 Ask your doctor if autocorrect is right for you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 10:00 AM (ZJj0q)

99 I saw a couple that had joined a herd of ferral horses and were wandering around in a field.
Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 09:59 AM (B705c)

They appeared to have only escaped with the clothes on their backs.

Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 10:01 AM (B705c)

100 Good morning again dear morons and thank you mh

A prayer for all the morons to have a sweet New Year.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 16, 2023 10:01 AM (RIvkX)

101 Morning, all. Waiting for the tea kettle to boil

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:01 AM (AW0uW)

102 3) ask your mother

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 16, 2023 10:01 AM (RIvkX)

103 From the last thread re: Mozart.

If he had lived, he would have matured and learned to use fewer notes like his wiser elders advised in the first place.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:04 AM (43xH1)

104 Gout: my doctor prescribed me allopurinol after several attacks. My FIL and a friend swore by it. Had to figure out the dosage but since then (knocks on wood) no flare up’s.

Posted by: Mick at September 16, 2023 09:57 AM (sVc11)
---
A few years back one of my toes was killing me, went into see the doctor and they instantly assumed it was gout. I knew it wasn't, mention it to my mother who laughed at the idea.

It was a sprain that had failed to heal properly, which actually took longer to treat and was more painful since I had to constantly stretch it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:05 AM (llXky)

105 Mick--

My husband had severe gout attacks--as in "he couldn't walk"--until he went on allopurinol. That was 15-20 years ago and no gout problems since. He was told it's hereditary and that's really the only solution.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 16, 2023 10:05 AM (fTtFy)

106 Verse for the Day:

"If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate to be with you always, the Spirit of truth, which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it. But you know it, because it remains with you, and will be in you."

–John 14:15-17

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2023 10:06 AM (IaTa3)

107 Looks like today is the day that either the Bush era ends in Texas or the day that the Uniparty cements it hold.
----
They better hurry up, there's a Texas vs Wyoming game at 7...///

Posted by: lin-duh at September 16, 2023 10:07 AM (UUBmN)

108 Oh please! When you visit our National Parks in America, I suggest that all visitors pose for selfies with the grizzly, moose, elk and bison.

They're tame and wish to become your friend! Just like in a Disney cartoon.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 16, 2023 10:07 AM (KVGVf)

109 It's windy but dry here at Stately Poppins Manor. I really want the upcoming storm to hammer us - not because I want destruction, but because late this afternoon I'm supposed to meet up with a few old HS pals.

I don't want to go. I haven't seen these guys in over 20 years and have nothing in common. It's going to end up like a stupid Brooooce! song, with everyone remembering the old days (which I hated and was miserable in).

As well, the last time we were all together, one of them was a complete Daily Kos-spewing lunatic and I have no desire to see or hear from him again.

Come on, storm!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:07 AM (AW0uW)

110 ...this afternoon I'm supposed to meet up with a few old HS pals.

I don't want to go.

Gee, it's a shame you suddenly tested positive for covid. Get well soon.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 16, 2023 10:09 AM (nfrXX)

111 I saw a couple that had joined a herd of ferral horses and were wandering around in a field.
Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 09:59 AM (B705c)

Maybe you could adopt one. They are likely already saddle broke.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 10:09 AM (Bsb2Q)

112 Don't use Autocorrect if you're allergic to Autocorrect.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 10:10 AM (NBVIP)

113 Come on, storm!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:07 AM (AW0uW)

If you do end up going, you could greet them with, "Gentlemen, I despise each and every one of you."

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 16, 2023 10:10 AM (4I/2K)

114 Bernie Sanders says the auto workers are making "starvation wages."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 16, 2023 10:11 AM (63Dwl)

115 I don't want to go. I haven't seen these guys in over 20 years and have nothing in common. It's going to end up like a stupid Brooooce! song, with everyone remembering the old days (which I hated and was miserable in).

As well, the last time we were all together, one of them was a complete Daily Kos-spewing lunatic and I have no desire to see or hear from him again.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Fret not! I recently had my 50th HS reunion and hadn't seen many of them since the 70's. It was great fun. Look at it this way - Some of the annointed ones have completely crashed and burned and other plain Janes and Joes have blossomed to become stunningly handsome/beautiful and wildly successful. It was a real eye opener. Be open to some fun.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2023 10:11 AM (IaTa3)

116 MPPP,
sounds like you have Covid...

Posted by: lin-duh at September 16, 2023 10:11 AM (UUBmN)

117 Maybe you could adopt one. They are likely already saddle broke.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 10:09 AM (Bsb2Q)

The wife would kill me if I brought a horse home.

Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 10:11 AM (B705c)

118 I expect recruitment to continue to be abysmal until that is resolved.

The southern states have always been considered the 'Golden Triangle' for military enlistments, and the south don't play stupid 'Woke'games.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:51 AM (ZJj0q)
---
For domestic ops, the front line is actually the National Guard, and it is getting hammered as well. This should be an easy sell - no wars, no threat of spending 6-9 months in the desert, but people are getting out and staying out.

Even in blue or purple states, it's mostly rural folks who enlist, and they're not down with the woke thing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:12 AM (llXky)

119 Don't use Autocorrect if you're allergic to Autocorrect.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 10:10 AM (NBVIP)

Never trust a fart.

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 10:12 AM (T4tVD)

120 JTB

Also, if I don't get any update from LenNeal about those paperback books, and how to ship them, I believe your wife wanted them still.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice'

I sent my snail mail to c/o Ace in the sidebar days ago. A week?
Apparently didn't get passed along. And it's the Kid, not a wife! Don't scare me like that! Here:

lenneal1994 at gmail dot com

I can always ditch email addresses later.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:13 AM (43xH1)

121 Bernie Sanders says the auto workers are making "starvation wages."

Maybe sell one or two of your houses in solidarity, xhum.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:13 AM (AW0uW)

122
High School reunion:
"Comparisons are odious."
~ Cervantes

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 10:13 AM (NBVIP)

123 chum.

Damned fat fingers.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:13 AM (AW0uW)

124 Thank you dear morons for your prayers

Mrs. F. is at 85% strength

Paul is back in his drug trial and I just made a reservation to see him next month.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 16, 2023 10:14 AM (RIvkX)

125 Don't use Autocorrect if you're allergic to Autocorrect.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 10:10 AM (NBVIP)
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Do not taunt Autocorrect.
Do not expose its glowing core.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:15 AM (llXky)

126 >>>It's going to end up like a stupid Brooooce! song, with everyone remembering the old days (which I hated and was miserable in).

>Glory Days! There's nothing worse than a Brooooce! earworm.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 16, 2023 10:16 AM (KVGVf)

127 Or I sent contact information and then forgot to follow up checking a drop-box email which is completely possible. I'll look again. The email I use for most stuff is a burner yahoo I've had for years and never check.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:16 AM (43xH1)

128 A lethal dose of caffeine is about 10g (according to link below). A cup of coffee has 100mg to 200mg of caffeine. I'd say that "cup" there has a lethal dose.

https://is.gd/eSIVmQ

At least you'd probably not be able to kill yourself accidentally this way; you'd get sick first.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:17 AM (ynpvh)

129 Guard and Reserve were deep selected for deployment a bunch during the last 15-20 years. No guarantees you won't end up in Ukraine.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 10:18 AM (z3WCn)

130 Guy was sorta disguised as a cop in an EMS cloth vest; dark blue long-sleeved shirt and tan khakis.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr @RobertKennedyJr 9h
I’m very grateful that alert and fast-acting protectors from Gavin de Becker and Associates (GDBA) spotted and detained an armed man who attempted to approach me at my Hispanic Heritage speech at the Wilshire Ebell Theatre in Los Angeles tonight. The man, wearing two shoulder holsters with loaded pistols and spare ammunition magazines was carrying a U.S. Marshal badge on a lanyard and beltclip federal ID. He identified himself as a member of my security detail. Armed GDBA team members moved quickly to isolate and detain the man until LAPD arrived to make the arrest. I’m also grateful to LAPD for its rapid response.

I’m still entertaining a hope that President Biden will allow me Secret Service protection. I am the first presidential candidate in history to whom the White House has denied a request for protection.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:18 AM (krqg6)

131 "Burner Yahoos" is my fault favorite part of Burning Man. Great music and awesome weed.

Posted by: Just waking up at September 16, 2023 10:18 AM (NBVIP)

132 Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. The gathering is at 5 this afternoon (WTF?) and I'm keeping my options open.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:19 AM (AW0uW)

133 If they are you are free to run about the house with sharp objects.

I would, but this jacket I'm wearing makes it very hard to even type, much less run with objects in my hands. Typing backwards is challenging, though.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:20 AM (ynpvh)

134 Since AH Lloyd is here, I'll apologize/explain for insulting his valued source at UWM.
Sorry about that. Also, UWM is a Leftist Shit Hole and has always been so. Anyone working there knows what they are doing. It brings up issues (as in the book I read last week) about if one has a field of expertise and wishes to exercise it, and the only real option is to use it in the context of a venue you KNOW is evil, do you compromise, or refuse to participate?
UWM is rotten to the core and anyone working there either knows it, doesn't care, or is willfully blind.
Hence my rude statement.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:20 AM (43xH1)

135 129 Guard and Reserve were deep selected for deployment a bunch during the last 15-20 years. No guarantees you won't end up in Ukraine.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 10:18 AM (z3WCn)

Why is it never a place like Hawaii? I mean Maui had that fire. I'm sure bad things happen in Fiji or Cancun.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:21 AM (ynpvh)

136 LenNeal.

Check that gmail address for mail from me.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 10:22 AM (ZJj0q)

137 "Burner Yahoos" is my fault favorite part of Burning Man. Great music and awesome weed.
Posted by: Just waking up'

Send an email! I'll ignore it for a year, then do a mass delete and never see it! It's a win for us both! It's like it never happened

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:22 AM (43xH1)

138 I am the first presidential candidate in history to whom the White House has denied a request for protection.

Trump should step up and offer to pay for a private security detail for RFK. Really make the left go nuts.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:22 AM (AW0uW)

139 Good morning, Horde.
So far we have ridden out the 3 Hour Tour that is “Hurricane” Lee.
Ferry is not running, so I get another day of vacation. With Mrs. Red!

Posted by: RI Red at September 16, 2023 10:23 AM (9qDFL)

140 138 I am the first presidential candidate in history to whom the White House has denied a request for protection.

Trump should step up and offer to pay for a private security detail for RFK. Really make the left go nuts.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:22 AM (AW0uW)

Heh. They'd probably call him Trump's stooge instead.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:24 AM (ynpvh)

141 Speaking of college campi, something interesting recently happened at Auburn University.

Revival?

https://tinyurl.com/mr36wu5h

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 10:24 AM (NBVIP)

142 RMBS, get any wind up there?

Posted by: RI Red at September 16, 2023 10:26 AM (9qDFL)

143 #130

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
BREAKING VIDEO: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. suffers assassination scare — Armed man posing as U.S. Marshal arrested at Robert F. Kennedy Jr. event at Wilshire Ebell Theatre

https://tinyurl.com/42ftkw3x
44 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:26 AM (krqg6)

144 YARN CRAFTS ... There are lots of YouTube videos available for learning both crochet and knitting ... I think being able to play the videos at SLOW speeds can be especially helpful.

Posted by: Kathy at September 16, 2023 10:27 AM (XUe78)

145 139 Good morning, Horde.
So far we have ridden out the 3 Hour Tour that is “Hurricane” Lee.
Ferry is not running, so I get another day of vacation. With Mrs. Red!

Posted by: RI Red at September 16, 2023 10:23 AM (9qDFL)

Lee will be running out of steam eventually. NHC shows, over the the next day or so going SSSS...(tropical storm force winds).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:27 AM (ynpvh)

146 lenneal1994 at gmail dot com
_______^^^^

So you're 29? Nice.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 16, 2023 10:28 AM (nfrXX)

147 This whole thing with Hunter Biden is a sham. All of it is for the benefit of trump. My heart goes out to Hunter. Many, many people have issues with drug or alcohol abuse. Imagine trying to get healthy in his reality? The gun charge should be thrown out of court. It's ridiculous.

I would say he is still suffering from the severe trauma he experienced in early childhood. I too hope that someday Hunter Biden will receive the help he needs to finally bring him peace.

Democrats should stop touting 'Bidenomics,' a concept meaningless to many. They must push anecdotal evidence of its success. That would be better understood.

Kamala and team are awesome!

Posted by: Democrats On Substack at September 16, 2023 10:29 AM (43xH1)

148 RMBS, get any wind up there?

I'm on the NH / MA border. It was very windy an hour ago, but seems to have calmed down a bit.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:29 AM (AW0uW)

149 Trump should step up and offer to pay for a private security detail for RFK. Really make the left go nuts.
-------
That'd be a great [grate??] move!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:29 AM (krqg6)

150 I’m [RFK Jr. is] very grateful that alert and fast-acting protectors from Gavin de Becker and Associates (GDBA) spotted and detained an armed man who attempted to approach me at my Hispanic Heritage speech at the Wilshire Ebell Theatre in Los Angeles tonight. The man, wearing two shoulder holsters with loaded pistols and spare ammunition magazines was carrying a U.S. Marshal badge on a lanyard and beltclip federal ID. He identified himself as a member of my security detail. Armed GDBA team members moved quickly to isolate and detain the man until LAPD arrived to make the arrest. I’m also grateful to LAPD for its rapid response.
I’m still entertaining a hope that President Biden will allow me Secret Service protection. I am the first presidential candidate in history to whom the White House has denied a request for protection.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 10:29 AM (FVME7)

151 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2h
JUST IN - Joe Biden’s ‘TikTok Army’ received over $5.5 million in funding from George Soros to push left-wing causes, bash conservatives - New York Post

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:31 AM (krqg6)

152 "I am the first presidential candidate in history to whom the White House has denied a request for protection."

It's not like there is a history of folks rushing to try to take out a Kennedy or anything.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 10:31 AM (ZJj0q)

153 So you're 29? Nice.
Posted by: Oddbob'

Sadly, that's probably the year I got the email address. Or maybe that was rocketmail. Or something about Geocities.

Usenet?

Posted by: Democrats On Substack at September 16, 2023 10:31 AM (43xH1)

154 The National Weather Service recently announced it will be changing the name of Hurricane Lee because of racial sensitivities.

Candidate monikers under consideration include Grant, Custer and Arnold.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 10:32 AM (NBVIP)

155 RFK Jr. will cause the Biden campaign to generate more fake votes to win, so getting rid of him due to denying him protection (thus making it easier for him to be taken out) makes that effort easier.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:32 AM (ynpvh)

156 154 The National Weather Service recently announced it will be changing the name of Hurricane Lee because of racial sensitivities.

Candidate monikers under consideration include Grant, Custer and Arnold.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 10:32 AM (NBVIP)

What Wong wit name Lee?

Posted by: Mr. Wong and Mrs. Lee at September 16, 2023 10:33 AM (ynpvh)

157 Didn't Lee blow back out to sea?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 16, 2023 10:33 AM (zZu0s)

158 The National Weather Service recently announced it will be changing the name of Hurricane Lee because of racial sensitivities.
Candidate monikers under consideration include Grant, Custer and Arnold.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty'

Hurricane Washington for the win.

Posted by: Democrats On Substack at September 16, 2023 10:33 AM (43xH1)

159 I’m very grateful that alert and fast-acting protectors from Gavin de Becker and Associates (GDBA) spotted and detained an armed man who attempted to approach me at my Hispanic Heritage speech at the Wilshire Ebell Theatre in Los Angeles tonight. The man, wearing two shoulder holsters with loaded pistols and spare ammunition magazines was carrying a U.S. Marshal badge on a lanyard and beltclip federal ID. He identified himself as a member of my security detail. Armed GDBA team members moved quickly to isolate and detain the man until LAPD arrived to make the arrest. I’m also grateful to LAPD for its rapid response.
I’m still entertaining a hope that President Biden will allow me Secret Service protection. I am the first presidential candidate in history to whom the White House has denied a request for protection.

Posted by: amy schumer at September 16, 2023 10:33 AM (krqg6)

160 I was unaware that prospective presidential candidates got secret service protection.

Seems, unnecessary. Most, if not all candidates are grifting asshats who totally con the rubes. They've got plenty of money. They just don't want to have to spend on stuff they think they should get for free.

I'm fairly certain RFK Jr has plenty of money.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 10:34 AM (Q4IgG)

161 RMBS, I’m down near Maaaatha’s Vineyard this last week. Big surf, gusts to 40. We’ve had worse nor’easters.

Posted by: RI Red at September 16, 2023 10:35 AM (9qDFL)

162 Seems, unnecessary. Most, if not all candidates are grifting asshats who totally con the rubes. They've got plenty of money. They just don't want to have to spend on stuff they think they should get for free.

I'm fairly certain RFK Jr has plenty of money.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 10:34 AM (Q4IgG)

They started when RFK Sr got capped

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 10:35 AM (xhaym)

163 Good Afternoon from Antwerp!!! Hope the Horde have not been behaving while have been away. 😉

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 16, 2023 10:35 AM (JNPm5)

164 158 The National Weather Service recently announced it will be changing the name of Hurricane Lee because of racial sensitivities.
Candidate monikers under consideration include Grant, Custer and Arnold.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty'

Hurricane Washington for the win.

Posted by: Democrats On Substack at September 16, 2023 10:33 AM (43xH1)

I think the Washington Nationals should be name the Vortex. After all, Washington is known for that sucking sound when it comes to our money.

Posted by: Mr. Wong and Mrs. Lee at September 16, 2023 10:36 AM (ynpvh)

165 UWM is rotten to the core and anyone working there either knows it, doesn't care, or is willfully blind.
Hence my rude statement.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:20 AM (43xH1)
---
Don't mince words. How do you really feel?

Also, show us on the doll where UWM hurt you.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:36 AM (llXky)

166 Joe Biden's greatest accomplishments!

https://tinyurl.com/3x4mmh58

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 10:36 AM (FVME7)

167 Getting ready for next November! Or even Primary season.

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 5h
NEW - An Indian outbreak of Nipah virus, which has no cure and can kill 75 per cent of those it infects, is being 'closely monitored' by UK health leaders, Daily Mail reports

Maybe Justin will call an early election to take advantage too??

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:37 AM (krqg6)

168 Hey, Scoobs! Are you still parlay-vooing?

Posted by: RI Red at September 16, 2023 10:37 AM (9qDFL)

169
160 I was unaware that prospective presidential candidates got secret service protection.

Feel the Burgmentum!!

Posted by: Doug Burgum at September 16, 2023 10:37 AM (NBVIP)

170 Mornin' Horde, and prayers for all of you and your loved ones.

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 16, 2023 10:38 AM (NPRQY)

171 Guard and Reserve were deep selected for deployment a bunch during the last 15-20 years. No guarantees you won't end up in Ukraine.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 10:18 AM (z3WCn)
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Yep, and we've got rabid ex-generals calling for full mobilization and tank battles.

In the 1990s, recruitment dropped because the economy was booming and the military didn't really have a strategic purpose after the Cold War. The economy isn't as good, but who wants to be killed and then have the government lie about why?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:39 AM (llXky)

172
I would say he is still suffering from the severe trauma he experienced in early childhood. I too hope that someday Hunter Biden will receive the help he needs to finally bring him peace.

GFY diminished capacity democrap. Hunter is 53 years old. His opportunity to grow up and be an adult expired decades ago. He's merely a sociopathic criminal with privilege.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 16, 2023 10:40 AM (tfTvi)

173 This is a category error, same as with Floyd. Our police dept. is polite and professional, yet because people were mad, they beat them up, reviled them, cut funding, etc.

Cops quit, crime went up, and the folly of punishing the innocent for the deeds of the guilty was made manifest.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Selection bias at work. You only see the bad cops out there on youtube etc. For the most part, due to restrictions on law enforcement due to privacy laws, you don't see the numerous bad actors interacting with perfectly professional police officers.

The whole body cam thing analysis from last count ran about 90 percent of the people acting badly with only 5-10 percent of the cops doing so. Essentially cops have become our social and mental health workers plus enforcing unpopular laws passed by pointy headed legislators. Tough job.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:40 AM (5jVrT)

174 #167 I think 2 or 3 people have died of Nipah in the Indian province.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:42 AM (krqg6)

175 Don't mince words. How do you really feel?
Also, show us on the doll where UWM hurt you.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd'

Well, all the roundabouts in WI instigated by UWM thinktanks obsessed with Europe for starters. Also, my biological male parent who graduated UWM with a doctorate in Educational Administration and worked in the R&D Education Think Tanks through Harvard, and worked in departments now directly responsible for the perverted malice you now see in National Education. UWM has a direct conduit to Harvard and into the White House for that.

I can go on. Would you like me to? You might value and respect this source and him as a person, but the structure he works for and collects a paycheck from is shit.

Posted by: Democrats On Substack at September 16, 2023 10:42 AM (43xH1)

176 Good morning, and prayers up for the Horde as always.

I'll be replacing basement windows this morning. If any of y'all have experience choosing between a ramset and a hammer drill, please speak up! I am having qualms about using the ramset.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 10:42 AM (Bf+P4)

177 Hey Red, no, left France about 2 hours ago. Had a great time there. Toured the D-Day beaches and visited Mont Saint-Michel ( which almost killed me).

On my way to Eindhoven now.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 16, 2023 10:42 AM (R+ZkC)

178 OK, folks, time for another cup of tea and some thinking about whether or not to go to the reunion.

See you on the book thread tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 16, 2023 10:42 AM (AW0uW)

179 In the 1990s, recruitment dropped because the economy was booming and the military didn't really have a strategic purpose after the Cold War. The economy isn't as good, but who wants to be killed and then have the government lie about why?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:39 AM (llXky)

I remember when it was more difficult to get in the Guard than a Service Academy.

Posted by: BignJames at September 16, 2023 10:42 AM (AwYPR)

180 Maybe Justin will call an early election to take advantage too??
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:37 AM (krqg6)

Maybe Castreau got infected. One can always hope.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 10:43 AM (4RGBH)

181 163 Good Afternoon from Antwerp!!! Hope the Horde have not been behaving while have been away. 😉
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 16, 2023 10:35 AM (JNPm5)

Diamonds or Chocolate?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 16, 2023 10:43 AM (zZu0s)

182 Essentially cops have become our social and mental health workers plus enforcing unpopular laws passed by pointy headed legislators. Tough job.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:40 AM (5jVrT)
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Yes, the Dems want to pass sweeping gun control and then expect it to magically enforce itself. Same with lockdowns, etc.

It's all performance art by idiots, which I why I stopped paying attention. I focus on my town, the things I can affect. For various reasons, I've had an extraordinary amount of contact with my local police dept. and they are doing a good job in a tough place. They do not deserve to be spoken of in the same breath as corrupt cops someplace else.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:44 AM (llXky)

183 173

The whole body cam thing analysis from last count ran about 90 percent of the people acting badly with only 5-10 percent of the cops doing so. Essentially cops have become our social and mental health workers plus enforcing unpopular laws passed by pointy headed legislators. Tough job.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:40 AM (5jVrT)

How many will continue to enforce the "law" when it becomes a list of illegal edicts and obviously unconstitutional laws? New Mexico showed some hope, but I don't know if the bulk of cops would rank losing their job over enforcing the will of the Gov't.

Posted by: Mr. Wong and Mrs. Lee at September 16, 2023 10:44 AM (ynpvh)

184 181 Diamonds or Chocolate?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

Ummmmm, I will neither confirm nor deny. 😝

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (R+ZkC)

185 Hope you had a tide table for Mont St Michel!

Posted by: RI Red at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (9qDFL)

186 BTW, Aim surplus has a bunch of ex cop Remington 870's for sale pretty cheap including Wingmasters and Magnum chambers. Got the flash ad this morning.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (5jVrT)

187 Teensy tiny error on this history book's cover.

https://tinyurl.com/4avxbtff

Give up? The FW-190 wasn't operational until 1942.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (FVME7)

188 176 Good morning, and prayers up for the Horde as always.

I'll be replacing basement windows this morning. If any of y'all have experience choosing between a ramset and a hammer drill, please speak up! I am having qualms about using the ramset.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 10:42 AM (Bf+P4)

Not the kind of hammers I use.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Hammer Man at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (ynpvh)

189 The book I read is an English translation of a subjective memoir by a Russian WWII veteran banally entitled 'Memory Of War', in which he opines that the USSR didn't win because of the Communist zealots, but because of competent people who harnessed their competency to the Communist cause when all the ideological appointees failed abysmally. His opinion was, the USSR won WWII because 'good people' allied with it.

He then asks, and it's a very good question, 'Was that moral?'

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (43xH1)

190 Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 16, 2023 10:40 AM (tfTvi)

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Hey Sock Monkey, how are your in-laws doing? I saw the smoke from my house right when the fire first started and knew it was going to be bad with all the wind we had that day.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 16, 2023 10:46 AM (W9fmc)

191 The whole body cam thing analysis from last count ran about 90 percent of the people acting badly with only 5-10 percent of the cops doing so. Essentially cops have become our social and mental health workers plus enforcing unpopular laws passed by pointy headed legislators. Tough job.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:40 AM (5jVrT)

Nipa appears to be like West Nile virus that is spread by fruit bats.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 10:46 AM (xhaym)

192 181 163 Good Afternoon from Antwerp!!! Hope the Horde have not been behaving while have been away. 😉
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 16, 2023 10:35 AM (JNPm5)

Diamonds or Chocolate?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 16, 2023 10:43 AM (zZu0s)

Chocolate-covered diamonds. Good way to smuggle them.
"Why yes, these are raisinettes".

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Hammer Man at September 16, 2023 10:47 AM (ynpvh)

193 Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Hammer Man
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LOL - good thing he didn't use the ramset!

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 10:47 AM (Bf+P4)

194 Off hammerin' sock. Ugh.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:47 AM (ynpvh)

195
I remember when it was more difficult to get in the Guard than a Service Academy.
Posted by: BignJames

Good morning Viet Nam.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 16, 2023 10:47 AM (63Dwl)

196 The whole body cam thing analysis from last count ran about 90 percent of the people acting badly with only 5-10 percent of the cops doing so. Essentially cops have become our social and mental health workers plus enforcing unpopular laws passed by pointy headed legislators. Tough job.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:40 AM (5jVrT)

My favorite body cam was the cop who found his wife in the car with a guy who said he picked her up on Tindr.
Pretty professional, all things considered.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 10:47 AM (xhaym)

197 He then asks, and it's a very good question, 'Was that moral?'
Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (43xH1)

Winning the war?

Winning the war with good people?

Winning the war without ideological concerns being dominant?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 16, 2023 10:48 AM (zZu0s)

198 185 Red, we went in at low tide. If I ever go back I would love to see the tide come in. Will send you a Pic when I get a chance.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at September 16, 2023 10:48 AM (R+ZkC)

199 How many will continue to enforce the "law" when it becomes a list of illegal edicts and obviously unconstitutional laws? New Mexico showed some hope, but I don't know if the bulk of cops would rank losing their job over enforcing the will of the Gov't.
Posted by: Mr. Wong and Mrs. Lee
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When the money is worth nothing and the risk to hide is great, then cops vote by walking out or simply not enforcing laws. Note how many cops are leaving blue jurisdictions and not being replaced.

The idea that abolishing law enforcement without replacing it with something like citizen patrols which will have their own problems is nonsense. Even during the days of Judge Lynch, there were still sheriffs and duly designated constables etc. with the authority to round up posses.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:48 AM (5jVrT)

200 This is a prayer thread and I know that.

I seem to be the only Orthodox person who weighs in here so it's hard to explain the role of imagery in that form of Christianity so I won't try, but this kind of prayer thread is either not common or unknown in Orthodox.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:48 AM (43xH1)

201 Well, all the roundabouts in WI instigated by UWM thinktanks obsessed with Europe for starters.

Posted by: Democrats On Substack at September 16, 2023 10:42 AM (43xH1)
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Seriously?

Look, I yield to none in hating the University of Michigan, but even I can concede that there are some good parts. The medical center there is first-rate and one of the only places in the country set up to treat one of my daughters, and they did a great job.

Even as a Spartan undergrad, I had to give serious consideration to the Correlates of War project, which was fascinating to me. Though overrun with leftists, Michigan did support Cecil Eby, who literally wrote the book on the Americans in Spain. Stanley G. Payne seems to have built a similar enclave in Madison dedicated to rigorous study of war and revolution and his work is invaluable.

So I get it. Hate Ann Arbor. Will neither confirm nor deny that I bombed and strafed it in a military A-10 simulator. But I can also be reasonable about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:49 AM (llXky)

202 > I was unaware that prospective presidential candidates got secret service protection.

Seems, unnecessary.

well, RFK got whacked at a campaign event
George Wallace was gravely wounded
Ford was shot at twice I think (not sure if he was a candidate or President at the time)

Posted by: DB - hey now you betcha at September 16, 2023 10:50 AM (geLO8)

203 Give up? The FW-190 wasn't operational until 1942.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (FVME7)

At first glance I thought they were Bearcats.

Posted by: BignJames at September 16, 2023 10:50 AM (AwYPR)

204 I'll be replacing basement windows this morning. If any of y'all have experience choosing between a ramset and a hammer drill, please speak up! I am having qualms about using the ramset.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 10:42 AM (Bf+P4)

I wouldn't use ramset for fear of cracking the brick. They are great for opening locks though.
Harbor Freight has an awesome battery powered H/D for pretty cheap. I'd go that route.

Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 10:50 AM (B705c)

205 Nipa appears to be like West Nile virus that is spread by fruit bats.
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Not by penguins??

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:50 AM (krqg6)

206 196 The whole body cam thing analysis from last count ran about 90 percent of the people acting badly with only 5-10 percent of the cops doing so. Essentially cops have become our social and mental health workers plus enforcing unpopular laws passed by pointy headed legislators. Tough job.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:40 AM (5jVrT)

My favorite body cam was the cop who found his wife in the car with a guy who said he picked her up on Tindr.
Pretty professional, all things considered.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 10:47 AM (xhaym)

What would've been the proper way to handle that situation? Pretty f'd up.
Oh, and dude, you married a whore. Probably should have looked up her rap sheet before marrying her!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:51 AM (ynpvh)

207 My favorite body cam was the cop who found his wife in the car with a guy who said he picked her up on Tindr.
Pretty professional, all things considered.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Hard to enjoy other people's misery for me. Simply put, the blame is on the mayors, city councils, county governments, and the states for much of the unpopular nonsense but people blame the front line people who don't create the policies in the first place. Same as blaming the checkout person for what the pointy heads created as return policies etc. at stores.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:51 AM (5jVrT)

208 Winning the war with good people?
Winning the war without ideological concerns being dominant?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop'

His work is a memoir so it's subjective, but he describes one officer everyone respected and would follow into Hell Itself, and who all by himself motivated everyone around him. He also describes the materialist behavior (theft and cowardice) of the hardcore Communists appointed for their ideological purity, and how even Stalin had to resurrect men from prisons and gulags to actually fight. It's an interesting book and it's not common. I had it sent to me, you can't buy it on Amazon.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:52 AM (43xH1)

209 How many will continue to enforce the "law" when it becomes a list of illegal edicts and obviously unconstitutional laws? New Mexico showed some hope, but I don't know if the bulk of cops would rank losing their job over enforcing the will of the Gov't.

Posted by: Mr. Wong and Mrs. Lee at September 16, 2023 10:44 AM (ynpvh)
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If you paid attention, you'd know that just about every police dept. in Michigan declined to enforce the masking orders during Whitmer's endless emergency. Even liberal jurisdictions stood down.

Yes, there are shitholes like California where the police academies seem to be filled with aspiring bullies and gang members, but elsewhere things are different.

Thing is, the media hides these stories. They want to create the illusion that their power is endless and there are no cracks. There are, in fact, lots and lots of cracks.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:52 AM (llXky)

210 between a ramset and a hammer drill, please speak up! I am having qualms about using the ramset.

Posted by: 496'

Holy shit! No ramset!

Hammer drill! Do not use the ramset!!!

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:53 AM (43xH1)

211 zerohedge @zerohedge 21h
Just The Tip: AP Gave Dem Porn-Wife Heads-Up Before WaPo Scoop, Allowing Her To Delete Videos

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:53 AM (krqg6)

212 BTW, Aim surplus has a bunch of ex cop Remington 870's for sale pretty cheap including Wingmasters and Magnum chambers. Got the flash ad this morning.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (5jVrT)

Thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 16, 2023 10:53 AM (ANm4C)

213 The idea that abolishing law enforcement without replacing it with something like citizen patrols which will have their own problems is nonsense. Even during the days of Judge Lynch, there were still sheriffs and duly designated constables etc. with the authority to round up posses.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:48 AM (5jVrT)

Not my point, but okay. Yes, there are cops that would walk away. My point is that there are plenty of cops out there that would continue to enforce laws because their livlihood depended on it. What percentage? I don't know. I do know that as far as our military, the current (and some of the past) juntas have tried their best to scuttle it by putting in command those with commie leanings loyal to the left, not the Constitution, and have done their best to drive the "wrong" kind of soldiers out of the military.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:54 AM (ynpvh)

214 I seem to be the only Orthodox person who weighs in here so it's hard to explain the role of imagery in that form of Christianity so I won't try, but this kind of prayer thread is either not common or unknown in Orthodox.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:48 AM (43xH1)
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Do the Orthodox do prayer intentions during Mass? In addition to what is read aloud, we have a book where people write their intentions, and this is also included.

This thread is an online version of that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:54 AM (llXky)

215 211 zerohedge @zerohedge 21h
Just The Tip: AP Gave Dem Porn-Wife Heads-Up Before WaPo Scoop, Allowing Her To Delete Videos
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:53 AM (krqg6)

That was nice of them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 16, 2023 10:55 AM (zZu0s)

216 What would've been the proper way to handle that situation? Pretty f'd up.
Oh, and dude, you married a whore. Probably should have looked up her rap sheet before marrying her!
Posted by: jim
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Umm, whores by definition are very good at deception otherwise they wouldn't be in the job. Police by their nature in many urban and suburban tend to be around a lot of folks that aren't exactly society's best. Often have the same upbringing but chose being a cop instead of a thief, pimp, etc.

In marriage, a lot of people put their bucket down where they are at and I am sure if he knew that fact, she promised him that she had changed, would not do it anymore now that she found true love, etc. Same as scumbag gigolo males do to females. Often people want to be deceived or seen as saviors.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:55 AM (5jVrT)

217 I wouldn't use ramset for fear of cracking the brick. They are great for opening locks though.
Harbor Freight has an awesome battery powered H/D for pretty cheap. I'd go that route.
Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 10:50 AM (B705c)

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Cracking the foundation is my fear exactly. I'm not going in broadside... I'll be going in the small way (like going in between the bread in a PB&J).

After I posted my question I actually went to Harbor Freight's website and checked things out. I may end up going there. I really don't want to split the top of the foundation.

MisHum - I am grateful for the prayer thread, and I am grateful you also deem it an open thread.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 10:57 AM (C8kvv)

218 What would've been the proper way to handle that situation? Pretty f'd up.
Oh, and dude, you married a whore. Probably should have looked up her rap sheet before marrying her!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:51 AM (ynpvh)

He called for backup, and made them stay in the car. He was visibly upset, but didn't go off.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 10:58 AM (xhaym)

219 Hey Sock Monkey, how are your in-laws doing? I saw the smoke from my house right when the fire first started and knew it was going to be bad with all the wind we had that day.
Posted by: Jordan61

They are soldering on and dealing with all of the crap involved with an event like that. To top it off my sister-in-law and her oldest son were T-boned by a guy who ran a stop sign while on his phone, Monday evening. God's provenance that they walked away. Car is a crumbled mess.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 16, 2023 10:58 AM (tfTvi)

220 So I get it. Hate Ann Arbor. Will neither confirm nor deny that I bombed and strafed it in a military A-10 simulator. But I can also be reasonable about it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd'

I never went to college, never attended any physical college courses at all and know absolutely nothing of that environment. The few times I have been on college/university campuses I have found them unbearably oppressive regardless of ideology. I'm a 'street guy' and for the most part just hate the abstraction of 'higher education' in general. If you say there are enclaves of common sense in these places I don't believe you. But I'll take your word for it. All I see are effects of the policies that ooze out of them.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:58 AM (43xH1)

221

These drag performers say protests, threats won't stop them from reading to kids at storytime events

https://tinyurl.com/mrxw2hzw

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 16, 2023 10:58 AM (63Dwl)

222 Here are comments on Ramset vs. Hammer Drill:

"If you need to do a lot of fastening and you aren't super worried about pull-out force then ramset is awesome. So for basement walls it's great, you can put down a ton of fasteners very quickly and for walls you won't really have any upwards vertical force so pull out strength doesn't matter. For hanging stuff into concrete and block walls though, a hammer drill is better. "

"If you Ramset something in place it is a bitch to remove and you have to refasten in a different area because the concrete will be damaged."

Reddit, so YMMV.

https://is.gd/2jPFL8

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 10:58 AM (ynpvh)

223 What percentage? I don't know. I do know that as far as our military, the current (and some of the past) juntas have tried their best to scuttle it by putting in command those with commie leanings loyal to the left, not the Constitution, and have done their best to drive the "wrong" kind of soldiers out of the military.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Rank and file tend to be a lot more pragmatic and even mid grade military officers in the trenches, say below Colonel have to deal with a lot of issues that the higher ups simply ignore as unpleasantness. Basically, the more insulated you are from the consequences of wokedom, the more tyrannical you can become. The lower ranks don't have that privilege whether as a street cop or a PFC.

So, they typically subvert, quiet quit, or do malicious compliance with insane orders and cops and PFCs have been doing that for years.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:59 AM (5jVrT)

224 When the money is worth nothing and the risk to hide is great, then cops vote by walking out or simply not enforcing laws. Note how many cops are leaving blue jurisdictions and not being replaced.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:48 AM (5jVrT)
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Portland is suffering severely from this. They are bringing in rookies who only intend to stay for a year and then go to a better place. What is more, all the surrounding jurisdictions canceled their mutual aid agreements because of the local prosecutor's hostile attitude.

Right now, it's a hiring paradise for cops, who can get good work in plenty of supportive communities.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 10:59 AM (llXky)

225 >>Hard to enjoy other people's misery for me. Simply put, the blame is on the mayors, city councils, county governments, and the states for much of the unpopular nonsense but people blame the front line people who don't create the policies in the first place. Same as blaming the checkout person for what the pointy heads created as return policies etc. at stores

Mostly agree but I'd take it one step further, those mayors, city councils, county and state governments didn't get there on their on own.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 10:59 AM (ZLI7S)

226 Finally some good news out of the White House!

White House on Biden’s Age: 80 Is the New 40

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 11:00 AM (FVME7)

227 Good Afternoon from Antwerp!!! Hope the Horde have not been behaving while have been away. 😉
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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I will be needing a pair of diamond stud earrings. Quality is important but size isn't. The smaller the better in this case. My birthday is the week of the TXMoMe😁🤗😁😎

Posted by: lin-duh at September 16, 2023 11:01 AM (UUBmN)

228 BTW, Aim surplus has a bunch of ex cop Remington 870's for sale pretty cheap including Wingmasters and Magnum chambers. Got the flash ad this morning.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (5jVrT)

Thanks for the heads up.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

First gun I bought at 18. Upstairs SH now. Still racks em as smoothly as it did 45+ years ago. Recommend it.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 16, 2023 11:01 AM (tfTvi)

229 Great advice on the ramset - you all have talked me out of it!

Next question: do I drill a large hole and insert those lead collar type anchors, or just use tapcon screws? It's a basement window... theoretically once it's in place it'll keep outward pressure on the wood which should pretty much keep it in place.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:01 AM (C8kvv)

230 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2023 11:02 AM (1Yy3c)

231 When I was in Chiraq the Final Tour, they covered up a case where a Black Female Officer did a high-speed chase after seeing Her Man in a car with another female, while the partner screamed for her to stop, and finally when the BFO nailed the vehicle and stopped it, shot the exiting woman dead, claiming she thought the cell phone in her hand, on with 911, was a gun.

Swept under the rug! Diversity hire with clout and they pushed the bitch out but didn't prosecute for the murder it was.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:02 AM (43xH1)

232 So, they typically subvert, quiet quit, or do malicious compliance with insane orders and cops and PFCs have been doing that for years.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 10:59 AM (5jVrT)
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The classic way a revolution starts is that the commanders order troops to do something and they refuse. Having done so, they have to change the political order or face severe punishment.

Officers - especially senior ones - can simply resign. But the rankers don't have that option.

When you lose the senior NCOs...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:02 AM (llXky)

233 I know presidential candidates have been shot and killed before. I didn't know they received secret service protection when campaigning.

I still think they can afford their own security up until they're the party's selected candidate. I assume they pay their staff, so this should be no different.

It's yet another sign of the political class receiving something on the taxpayer's dime they should pay for themselves.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)

234 226 Finally some good news out of the White House!

White House on Biden’s Age: 80 Is the New 40

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 11:00 AM (FVME7)

If 40 has been on meth for 2 years.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:03 AM (ynpvh)

235 Mostly agree but I'd take it one step further, those mayors, city councils, county and state governments didn't get there on their on own.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 10:59 AM (ZLI7S)
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Yep. You want the cool vibe of living in Frisco or Portland or Chicago or New York, you get the whole package.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:04 AM (llXky)

236 Next question: do I drill a large hole and insert those lead collar type anchors, or just use tapcon screws? It's a basement window... theoretically once it's in place it'll keep outward pressure on the wood which should pretty much keep it in place.
Posted by: 496'

Tapcons. The anchors will expand the masonry/brick/etc. Check the Tapcons from time to time: they will rust. The Tapcons basically 'tap' the hole in the masonry. Hence, 'Tapcons'. They are not more widely used because they're expensive.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:04 AM (43xH1)

237 229 Great advice on the ramset - you all have talked me out of it!

Next question: do I drill a large hole and insert those lead collar type anchors, or just use tapcon screws? It's a basement window... theoretically once it's in place it'll keep outward pressure on the wood which should pretty much keep it in place.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:01 AM (C8kvv)

Are you in tornado country?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:04 AM (ynpvh)

238 Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 16, 2023 10:58 AM (tfTvi)

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Yikes, glad they're okay.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 16, 2023 11:05 AM (W9fmc)

239 Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 10:57 AM (C8kvv)

I wish I had a basement to replace the window in.

Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 11:05 AM (B705c)

240 Are you in tornado country?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:04 AM (ynpvh)

Cheyenne. We get the rare one every 30-40 years.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:05 AM (C8kvv)

241 It's yet another sign of the political class receiving something on the taxpayer's dime they should pay for themselves.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)
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I don't know how extensive it really is, and it's probably just a symbolic deterrent. The Secret Service has a (clearly undeserved) reputation for ruthless competence, and when candidate conspicuously lack that protection, it is an open invitation by the government to take a shot.

Who is Jose Calvo Sotelo?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:06 AM (llXky)

242 Cracking the foundation is my fear exactly. I'm not going in broadside... I'll be going in the small way (like going in between the bread in a PB&J).

After I posted my question I actually went to Harbor Freight's website and checked things out. I may end up going there. I really don't want to split the top of the foundation.

MisHum - I am grateful for the prayer thread, and I am grateful you also deem it an open thread.
Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 10:57 AM (C8kvv)

You might want to consider simply using adhesives, like "Liquid Nails". There is a large number of really effective adhesives out there that could glue a wood or metal framed window into a wall opening very securely indeed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:06 AM (4RGBH)

243
Officers - especially senior ones - can simply resign. But the rankers don't have that option.

When you lose the senior NCOs...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:02 AM (llXky)

My dad and several of his fellow soldiers threaten a colonel. All the soldiers were combat veterans and were being made to do shit jobs between going out in the field again. The Colonel backed down and asked, "Were you guys really gonna kill me?"
The smiled back and said nothing.
All honorably discharged at end of the war.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:06 AM (ynpvh)

244 Speaking of video hos . . .

Sopranos Star Drea De Matteo Joined OnlyFans Because Of Lost Acting Jobs After Being Against Covid Vaccine Mandates

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 11:07 AM (FVME7)

245 I wish I had a basement to replace the window in.
Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 11:05 AM (B705c)
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Thanks, but my basement is a dump. It has taken on water for years because of crappy basement windows. I knew I was going to replace them when I bought the place. I have much work to do before I can even start thinking about framing it out.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:07 AM (C8kvv)

246 "If you need to do a lot of fastening and you aren't super worried about pull-out force then ramset is awesome. So for basement walls it's great, you can put down a ton of fasteners very quickly and for walls you won't really have any upwards vertical force so pull out strength doesn't matter. For hanging stuff into concrete and block walls though, a hammer drill is better. "
Posted by: jim
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From personal experience in these matters, your summary of reddit speaks the truth.

FWIW, depending on the size of holes, on bricks, you do not necessarily need a hammer drill function but you do need masonry bits. Ditto for cinder blocks but the heavier concrete blocks/slabs/etc do need it. Also a corded hammer drill is generally cheaper than the cordless and the price goes up with whether you need a really big hole or a smaller one.

You can do that carefully with a regular drill or a smaller hammer drill in some cases by drilling a pilot hole, then a bigger hole, etc. until you reach your desired diameter but over 1/2 in, then you have to go to a bigger chuck or misuse a Silver and Deming oversize drill. Spritzing the drill area with water prolongs the drill bit life.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:08 AM (5jVrT)

247 Part of the UAW strike demand is a 4 day workweek while getting paid for 5. Lol. I hope every single fucking plant in Michigan shuts down and moved to Mexico.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:08 AM (EhnMH)

248 I've read all the prayer requests, and many thanks for the weekly postings!

Posted by: gp at September 16, 2023 11:08 AM (MvF+J)

249 221 yeah right... ugh me NO likey...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 16, 2023 11:08 AM (C4xAj)

250 Do the Orthodox do prayer intentions during Mass?'

To greatly simplify and mis-state, Orthodox have no problem with anthropomorphizing Jesus Christ in an image (This is absurdly simplified) so if you want to pray, there is the Ikon right there. Go talk to Christ. He's right there.

You can ask for intercession from Saints, also in their explicit Ikonic image. Praying outside the Church with other living human beings just isn't really a Thing.

I go into this in the Picture Story essay/thingey on the website.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:08 AM (43xH1)

251 Scuba Dude I am envious, Have Fun

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 11:08 AM (fwDg9)

252 240 Are you in tornado country?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:04 AM (ynpvh)

Cheyenne. We get the rare one every 30-40 years.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:05 AM (C8kvv)

Not that you ever want a tornado on top of you, but the pressure inside is less that the pressure outside. If windows closed, could pop some out.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:09 AM (ynpvh)

253 Sopranos Star Drea De Matteo Joined OnlyFans Because Of Lost Acting Jobs After Being Against Covid Vaccine Mandates
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 11:07 AM (FVME7)

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Um. Was she really in high demand? She's a 50-something C list actress.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 16, 2023 11:09 AM (W9fmc)

254 Bernie Sanders says the auto workers are making "starvation wages."
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Have you seen the price of croissants at LaGuardia?

Posted by: AOC at September 16, 2023 11:10 AM (rxUKk)

255 You might want to consider simply using adhesives, like "Liquid Nails". There is a large number of really effective adhesives out there that could glue a wood or metal framed window into a wall opening very securely indeed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:06 AM (4RGBH)
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I planned on using a polyurethane caulk between the wood and the concrete. An adhesive like that might be a good way to go though. I presume liquid nails is waterproof... I'd also have to caulk it, right?

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:10 AM (C8kvv)

256 254 Bernie Sanders says the auto workers are making "starvation wages."
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Have you seen the price of croissants at LaGuardia?

Posted by: AOC at September 16, 2023 11:10 AM (rxUKk)

has Bernie ever starved?
has Bernie ever had a REAL job?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:11 AM (ynpvh)

257 Part of the UAW strike demand is a 4 day workweek while getting paid for 5. Lol. I hope every single fucking plant in Michigan shuts down and moved to Mexico.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:08 AM (EhnMH)
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YEAH! Export all the jobs! That's the way!

You know, I'm starting to rethink my dislike of the UAW. Shocking, but if you look at the market overall, wages are soaring thanks to inflation, and office workers are already doing flex time. So this doesn't bother me at all.

Sorry, I'd rather have bloated inefficient employed workers than unemployed ones dying of meth overdoses and overloading the welfare system.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:11 AM (llXky)

258 On Only fans will she chri-s-to-pha while nekkid?

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:11 AM (EhnMH)

259
Not that you ever want a tornado on top of you, but the pressure inside is less that the pressure outside. If windows closed, could pop some out.
Posted by: jim
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I think we need to reword this...?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 11:11 AM (rxUKk)

260 Officers - especially senior ones - can simply resign. But the rankers don't have that option.
When you lose the senior NCOs...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd'

The 'memoir' explicitly describes men murdering their officers around the 2nd Shock Army around Leningrad, one of the most egregious failures of the Red Army. And in that situation nobody could simply 'resign'.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:11 AM (43xH1)

261 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson Pushes for U.S. to Address "Uncomfortable Lessons" About Race

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Let's address the uncomfortable issue of affirmative action judges.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 11:12 AM (FVME7)

262 Next question: do I drill a large hole and insert those lead collar type anchors, or just use tapcon screws? It's a basement window... theoretically once it's in place it'll keep outward pressure on the wood which should pretty much keep it in place.

Posted by: 496
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Tapcons or their Simpson strong tie competitor type screws actually have rated the holding power of their screws. Based on size, the bigger the screw, the greater strength resistance. Consider though using pvc for your buck frame for the window. Home Depot and Lowes have the stuff and it will never rot out on you. Older homes have more solid hardwood buck frames but the new pine stuff is simply not that good over the long run about resisting rot.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:12 AM (5jVrT)

263 "Bernie Sanders says the auto workers are making "starvation wages.""

I know union auto workers who are millionaires who worked at our Belvidere IL plant over the years. They have more toys than they know what to do with. Plant's closed now I think.

Posted by: gp at September 16, 2023 11:13 AM (MvF+J)

264 Sorry, I'd rather have bloated inefficient employed workers than unemployed ones dying of meth overdoses and overloading the welfare system.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

UAW workers are meth addicts as well. And alcoholics. Why do you think UAW products are such pieces of shit?

They make $70/hr to push a button. It’s absurd. And they’re still not happy and want more. Fuck ‘em.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:13 AM (EhnMH)

265 Y'all are uplifting but time to engage in chores. I have 2+ cords of wood on the ground that needs to split and stacked for next year. Woodshed is full, 8+ cords. Finishing up today will give me 6+ cords for next year. God is good.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 16, 2023 11:13 AM (tfTvi)

266 The book I read is an English translation of a subjective memoir by a Russian WWII veteran banally entitled 'Memory Of War', in which he opines that the USSR didn't win because of the Communist zealots, but because of competent people who harnessed their competency to the Communist cause when all the ideological appointees failed abysmally. His opinion was, the USSR won WWII because 'good people' allied with it.

He then asks, and it's a very good question, 'Was that moral?'
Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 10:45 AM (43xH1)

Svechin is an example of this. His book Strategy is just brilliant. And prob the core text of the current RUS military.

The dude was just not any kind of Marxist/Communist/Whatever. And the real deal types instinctively distrusted him and eventually purged and killed him.

He wasn't a little lamb and apparently a real a-hole to a lot of people but the dude was a perfect example of a supremely competent guy who tried to work within a system he didn't believe in.

The true believers were all about World Revolution and he was like nah man the right thing to do is..... *gets murked*

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 16, 2023 11:14 AM (K6dNA)

267 I planned on using a polyurethane caulk between the wood and the concrete. An adhesive like that might be a good way to go though. I presume liquid nails is waterproof... I'd also have to caulk it, right?
Posted by: 496'

I wouldn't worry too much about the caulk but advise against Liquid Nails as it hardens. A silicone caulk will stay flexible and can be removed if necessary. I'd recommend brushing/wire brushing the masonry/concrete surface and spray-painting it to seal it up. I've used multiple sealers but automotive spray paint works fine.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:14 AM (43xH1)

268 Whig, I thought about PVC and I'll take another look. The window is about 1.75" smaller than the hole in the concrete foundation to allow for 2x4's and shimming. If there are PVC 2x4's, I will use one in a heartbeat, but I fear it only comes in 1x4.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:15 AM (C8kvv)

269 Average UAW wage is $73/hr. That’s $150k a year. And that’s average meaning there are senior workers making $200k. For pushing buttons.

Plus pension and health plans that most people can only dream of.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:15 AM (EhnMH)

270 The classic way a revolution starts is that the commanders order troops to do something and they refuse. Having done so, they have to change the political order or face severe punishment.

Officers - especially senior ones - can simply resign. But the rankers don't have that option.

When you lose the senior NCOs...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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For awhile in Africa and Asia, it was the mid grade officers and even some sgts that ended up being the leaders after a coup. The generals were comprised by the previous regime and the lower ranks did what you said, Do or die.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:15 AM (5jVrT)

271 I planned on using a polyurethane caulk between the wood and the concrete. An adhesive like that might be a good way to go though. I presume liquid nails is waterproof... I'd also have to caulk it, right?
Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:10 AM (C8kvv)

I think caulking would complete the job. Talk to some smart person at a hardware store about the adhesives.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:16 AM (4RGBH)

272
UAW workers are meth addicts as well. And alcoholics. Why do you think UAW products are such pieces of shit?

They make $70/hr to push a button. It’s absurd. And they’re still not happy and want more. Fuck ‘em.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:13 AM (EhnMH)
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They pay taxes, though. So fuck them, and fuck everyone in their city, and county and state.

Oh, and losing that plan means losing the ability to retool it in wartime. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I no longer have a dog in this fight. The mega-corporations are fine with slave labor. They hate us. So if the unions stick it to them, God bless them. At least their salary will support other businesses.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:16 AM (llXky)

273 The southern states have always been considered the 'Golden Triangle' for military enlistments, and the south don't play stupid 'Woke'games.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2023 09:51 AM (ZJj0q)

I used to drive through Anniston to see family in Florida. Out in the middle of nowhere, mid-Alabama, was a Marine recruiting billboard. All by its lonesome. And not one of the little ones, either.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 16, 2023 11:17 AM (Kdg1E)

274 Golf Influencer Paige Spiranac Says Golf Community Is Too Rigid On Dress Code, Tells Critics to Cool It On Criticizing Her Outfit Choices

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Bikini golf for the win!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 11:17 AM (FVME7)

275
I no longer have a dog in this fight. The mega-corporations are fine with slave labor. They hate us. So if the unions stick it to them, God bless them. At least their salary will support other businesses.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:16 AM (llXky)

Fair enough. But then don’t complain when a base pickup truck costs $60k.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:17 AM (EhnMH)

276 AOP - I like the liquid nails route. Would I be well advised to also put a few tapcons in here and there?

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:17 AM (C8kvv)

277 For awhile in Africa and Asia, it was the mid grade officers and even some sgts that ended up being the leaders after a coup. The generals were comprised by the previous regime and the lower ranks did what you said, Do or die.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:15 AM (5jVrT)
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Flight Lt. Jerry Rawlings, Master Sgt. Samuel Doe come to mind.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:18 AM (llXky)

278 268 Whig, I thought about PVC and I'll take another look. The window is about 1.75" smaller than the hole in the concrete foundation to allow for 2x4's and shimming. If there are PVC 2x4's, I will use one in a heartbeat, but I fear it only comes in 1x4.
Posted by: 496
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AERT makes some 2x4's for decking use and goes by the trade name of Moisture Shield. Work fine as a buck frame--stuff is both heavy and rigid but color is limited of course if that makes a difference. Wood fiber reinforced plastic. My deck made of the stuff is over ten years old and with a good deck wash looks as good as new.

Use the leftover polymer 2x4's for replacing some base plates on a frame chimney that had rotted out.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:18 AM (5jVrT)

279 Fair enough. But then don’t complain when a base pickup truck costs $60k.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:17 AM (EhnMH)
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You think the labor savings are passed onto the purchaser???

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:18 AM (llXky)

280 You know, I'm starting to rethink my dislike of the UAW. Shocking, but if you look at the market overall, wages are soaring thanks to inflation, and office workers are already doing flex time. So this doesn't bother me at all.

Sorry, I'd rather have bloated inefficient employed workers than unemployed ones dying of meth overdoses and overloading the welfare system.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:11 AM (llXky)

Other than the "wages are soaring", I agree.

How is re-industrialization possible absent massive wage growth?

And wages aren't a cost for the National Economy.

Ford paid his workers a lot (a lot!) so they could buy his cars.

SCOTUS actually stepped in and made him stop increasing their pay.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 16, 2023 11:19 AM (K6dNA)

281 Instapundit: AP IS HANDED AN ACTUAL PEE TAPE, CHOOSES TO ALERT CANDIDATE RATHER THAN COMMIT JOURNALISM

https://instapundit.com/605985/

I don't mean to bring real world news into the morning thread but candidates for office being busted offering to piss for "tokens" will never not be comedy gold.

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2023 11:20 AM (1Yy3c)

282 BTW, Whig, I've got some news on my FR7 that you will enjoy. Found a bunch of practice plastic ammo to put through it.

Plenty of pop, no kick. Dirt cheap, too.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:20 AM (llXky)

283 I know union auto workers who are millionaires who worked at our Belvidere IL plant over the years. They have more toys than they know what to do with. Plant's closed now I think.
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Twenty years ago, I was at a rest stop up Canada way. There was a UAW guy taking a break, with his 40' RV. I chatted with him a bit. It was Memorial Day weekend. He said, 'I could have worked today, for $125.00/hr., but it just wasn't worth it.'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 11:20 AM (lGAue)

284 That giant cup of coffee looks wonderful.

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2023 11:20 AM (1Yy3c)

285
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You think the labor savings are passed onto the purchaser???
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:18 AM (llXky)

Now you sound like Bernie where all the greedy executives steal profits and buy yachts. Come on man.

Do you think it’s a coincidence that a Big Mac is $8 today vs $4 a few years ago? During a period when McDonald’s doubled their wages?

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:20 AM (EhnMH)

286 Average UAW wage is $73/hr. That’s $150k a year. And that’s average meaning there are senior workers making $200k. For pushing buttons.
Plus pension and health plans that most people can only dream of.
Posted by: Montec'

in my neck of the woods. Lot of people at Belvidere bought houses in my town for >$30K and commuted with cars they could make payments on through weekly withdrawals from their paychecks. CRAZY money. Infamous for not hiring Blacks though. Put them all in the paint shop to inhale the fumes and leave. Belvidere was/is notorious for vicious racism. Not the fake kind, either.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:21 AM (43xH1)

287 Thanks, but my basement is a dump. It has taken on water for years because of crappy basement windows. I knew I was going to replace them when I bought the place. I have much work to do before I can even start thinking about framing it out.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:07 AM (C8kvv)

So you got black mold..
You need to get that musty smell gone.
10% bleach and water. Garden sprayers from Home Depot. Spray until you can't stand it and repeat as often as you can until it all turns white.
That crap is not good for you. I would do it before the project.

Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 11:21 AM (B705c)

288 The two BlueOval (Ford) EV battery manufacturing facilities, one in Kentucky the other in Tennessee, have been resisting unionizing. I'm not sure about other EV manufacturing facilities like Tesla, Chevy, etc. but these two facilities are supposed to be bleeding edge, high tech, AI run plants that employ engineers, IT people and the like more than wrench turners and traditional "nut and bolt" workers.

I presume there isn't really going to be a need for assembly-line workers if/when EV's are the primary manufactured vehicle for US consumption. If that's where it goes.

I think the UAW has realized this. Too late, however.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 11:21 AM (Q4IgG)

289 Flight Lt. Jerry Rawlings, Master Sgt. Samuel Doe come to mind.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Good memory. Khadafi was a colonel I believe and so were the Greeks forming the military junta. Can't recall on Turkey but Nassar in Egypt was another mid grade officer.

Are you going to do a War African or Arab style book next?

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:22 AM (5jVrT)

290 I know union auto workers who are millionaires who worked at our Belvidere IL plant over the years. They have more toys than they know what to do with. Plant's closed now I think.

Posted by: gp at September 16, 2023 11:13 AM (MvF+J)
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Is the community better off with millionaire workers or a closed plant?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:23 AM (llXky)

291 I got hired in at Belvidere and turned it down. They couldn't believe it. I got hired in at Red Cross in Madison, for big money. Turned that down too. They couldn't believe that either.

The one thing my vicious Socialist Family taught me is that once you compromise and take the King's Shilling, you have thrown away your integrity.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:23 AM (43xH1)

292 283 They love those giant RVs. One friend has a dune buggy hobby. The RV has a small enclosed garage in the back for them. They like boats too.

Posted by: gp at September 16, 2023 11:23 AM (MvF+J)

293 Are you going to do a War African or Arab style book next?
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:22 AM (5jVrT)

Fingers crossed he does one about the Portugese approach to their colonies.

The Flecha were awesome.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 16, 2023 11:23 AM (K6dNA)

294 Next to wokeness, unions have been the biggest destroyers of America the past 15 years. They can all fuck off and strange as far as I’m concerned. I’m actively cheering for the big 3 to produce their garbage products in Mexico. Shut it all down.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:23 AM (EhnMH)

295 Are you going to do a War African or Arab style book next?

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:22 AM (5jVrT)
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Not right away. I want to write some fiction again. More relaxing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:23 AM (llXky)

296 290 I'd much prefer the plant open.

Posted by: gp at September 16, 2023 11:24 AM (MvF+J)

297 Fingers crossed he does one about the Portugese approach to their colonies.

The Flecha were awesome.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 16, 2023 11:23 AM (K6dNA)
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My senior thesis was about the security situation in southern Africa. Did a lot of reading on Rhodesia and Angola. Fascinating stuff.

Don't tempt me!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:24 AM (llXky)

298
Is the community better off with millionaire workers or a closed plant?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:23 AM (llXky)

When an uneducated unskilled, drug addicted UAW worker makes $200k a year the entire economy suffers. Maybe that 1 town is better off. But on a macro scale we’re all worse off.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:25 AM (EhnMH)

299 Just The Tip: AP Gave Dem Porn-Wife Heads-Up Before WaPo Scoop, Allowing Her To Delete Videos
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 16, 2023 10:53 AM (krqg6)

They are still up on, uh, certain other sites. The internet, bless it's heart, is, unfortunately, forever.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at September 16, 2023 11:25 AM (Zvtjl)

300 268 Whig, I thought about PVC and I'll take another look. The window is about 1.75" smaller than the hole in the concrete foundation to allow for 2x4's and shimming. If there are PVC 2x4's, I will use one in a heartbeat, but I fear it only comes in 1x4.
Posted by: 496
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Oh, and btw, it is pretty easy to laminate two 1x4 PVC boards into one 2x4 using plain PVC plumbing glue to join them. It actually adds a little strength to the assembly.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:25 AM (5jVrT)

301 My senior thesis was about the security situation in southern Africa. Did a lot of reading on Rhodesia and Angola. Fascinating stuff.

Don't tempt me!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:24 AM (llXky)

Salazar and the Flecha make me swoon.

*eyes turn into giant hearts like in old cartoons*

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 16, 2023 11:26 AM (K6dNA)

302 Is the community better off with millionaire workers or a closed plant?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd'

Rust Belt Guy weighing in: the overwhelming majority of UAW workers are only there for the money and when it's not there, they take their toys and leave. Honestly, I've lived in both situations and as long as the closed-plant wasteland lets me kill miscreants, I prefer the closed plant. For years in my FFT (Failed Factory Town) you could buy a house for $20K, move in today. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad, either.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:26 AM (43xH1)

303 Don't tempt me!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Don't listen to him. Tempt away Thesokorus. I would love to see that book.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:27 AM (5jVrT)

304 259
Not that you ever want a tornado on top of you, but the pressure inside is less that the pressure outside. If windows closed, could pop some out.
Posted by: jim
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I think we need to reword this...?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 11:11 AM (rxUKk)

Yes, reversed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

305 Next to wokeness, unions have been the biggest destroyers of America the past 15 years. They can all fuck off and strange as far as I’m concerned. I’m actively cheering for the big 3 to produce their garbage products in Mexico. Shut it all down.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:23 AM (EhnMH)
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That's a false narrative that I once believed. I now understand that the corporate-driven conservative media convinced me to hate lazy workers so that I would think as you do - better an impovrished, downtrodded people than one making good money in the skilled trades.

Better a de-industrialized society dependent on foreign imports than a robust, self-sufficient one.

Oh, and only the college-educated should be permitted to be affluent. People who work with their hands should have their wages capped. Forever.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:27 AM (llXky)

306 My senior thesis was about the security situation in southern Africa. Did a lot of reading on Rhodesia and Angola. Fascinating stuff.

Don't tempt me!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd'

Too late! The seed has been planted!

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:27 AM (43xH1)

307 Govt workers are the same. Retire at 50 and buy more toys they know what to do with. All the time crying poverty.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:27 AM (EhnMH)

308 Not right away. I want to write some fiction again. More relaxing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd'

i did a bunch of super hard editing and actually total rewrites about Holocaust stuff and then did an entire erotic vampire fiction novel and that sc-fi book. Witchya.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:29 AM (43xH1)

309
When an uneducated unskilled, drug addicted UAW worker makes $200k a year the entire economy suffers. Maybe that 1 town is better off. But on a macro scale we’re all worse off.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:25 AM (EhnMH)
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How?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:29 AM (llXky)

310
Oh, and only the college-educated should be permitted to be affluent. People who work with their hands should have their wages capped. Forever.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:27 AM (llXky)

Speaking of false narratives. 🙄

People should be paid by the value they add.where white or blue collar. A person pushing a button on an assembly line is not contributing $73/hr of value.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:29 AM (EhnMH)

311 repeat as often as you can until it all turns white.
That crap is not good for you. I would do it before the project.
Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 11:21 AM (B705c)
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Thanks - a garden sprayer is a good idea. I will do that before I frame anything in. There are a couple of half-assed attempts at putting a wall in down there by previous owner. Those are all coming out. It really doesn't smell down there any more since I took out the floor, but I love the smell of bleach... it smells clean... so I'll do that.

I cannot understand the mindset that allowed water to just trickle in the house. I consider it my mortal enemy and will fight it til the end.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:30 AM (/SRMG)

312 All you guys think about is money.

Posted by: KT at September 16, 2023 11:30 AM (rrtZS)

313 Don't tempt me!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Don't listen to him. Tempt away Thesokorus. I would love to see that book.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:27 AM (5jVrT)

A family friend married this Portugese dude. And I was at their house and the grandpa was showing me around and I saw a picture of him in uniform and I was like Dude! You were in the.... and he grabbed my arm and quickly changed the subject and later said privately "I don't talk about that stuff with family". Lol

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 16, 2023 11:31 AM (K6dNA)

314 "If there are PVC 2x4's, I will use one in a heartbeat, but I fear it only comes in 1x4."

stack up 2.

Posted by: fd at September 16, 2023 11:31 AM (vFG9F)

315 The true believers were all about World Revolution and he was like nah man the right thing to do is..... *gets murked*
Posted by: Thesokorus'

HAHAHA! That's funny because it's true

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:31 AM (43xH1)

316 Hey 496 with the basement window project. I'm a very experienced carpenter/contractor. I have a question and some advice.
Why are you attempting the window install? If the reasons are to spend time and money on procuring material and tools stressing out for an inferior job, risking buying material you dont need due to mistakes measuring,cutting ect, risk injury and spend time away from earning money at your regular employment and lastly zero warranty. Then by all means go for it.. heh That's my spiel to potential customers that tell me "I'm doing the job MYSELF BUT maybe you'll get the satisfaction of doing it yourself. I'm here for you lol

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 16, 2023 11:31 AM (C4xAj)

317 Oh, and btw, it is pretty easy to laminate two 1x4 PVC boards into one 2x4 using plain PVC plumbing glue to join them. It actually adds a little strength to the assembly.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:25 AM (5jVrT)
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Dang... that's a good idea.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:32 AM (/SRMG)

318 Speaking of false narratives. 🙄

People should be paid by the value they add.where white or blue collar. A person pushing a button on an assembly line is not contributing $73/hr of value.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:29 AM (EhnMH)

Speaking of false narratives, not everyone on an assembly line merely "pushes buttons".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:32 AM (4RGBH)

319 Sorry, I'd rather have bloated inefficient employed workers than unemployed ones dying of meth overdoses and overloading the welfare system.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:11 AM (llXky)

Inflation is a tax to increase the take the government and the buddies of the central bank get, and the joy of it is the scramble to see who gets to pay for it. Employers who see the bottom line go away, or the workers who's wages never seem to keep up with the essentials like housing, gas and food?
And the government and their media voice call both sides greedy for not being willing to beggar themselves.

Industry feels put upon because they put the politicians in place and held them there, and labor feels put upon because they got special consideration for years and were the politicians' muscle on the street in exchange.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 11:33 AM (xhaym)

320 People should be paid by the value they add.where white or blue collar. A person pushing a button on an assembly line is not contributing $73/hr of value.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:29 AM (EhnMH)
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Ah, and you're the one who decides, right?

How about not being so envious of other people. You get that an employed overpaid worker is better than an unemployed one, right? Your taxes go up, crime goes up, other businesses fail, so you get even more unemployment, and more taxes, and also a growing pool permanently dependent people.

This is Kevin Williamson style thinking.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:33 AM (llXky)

321 That's a false narrative that I once believed. I now understand that the corporate-driven conservative media convinced me to hate lazy workers so that I would think as you do - better an impovrished, downtrodded people than one making good money in the skilled trades.

Better a de-industrialized society dependent on foreign imports than a robust, self-sufficient one.

Oh, and only the college-educated should be permitted to be affluent. People who work with their hands should have their wages capped. Forever.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Fair summary. Often tradesmen and skilled workers have been more supportive of a republic than higher SES folks such as government workers. I am far more concerned with public service unionism than private. Ideally though, I think that open shops are preferably where union representation is only allowed for those who want to pay the dues.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:33 AM (5jVrT)

322 How?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:29 AM (llXky)

Makes everything we buy more expensive. It’s Econ 101. It’s also how tariffs work. They help a small segment while making everything more expensive for everyone else.

Basic example. 1000 GM workers are helped. But because cars cost $10k more, people don’t spend that $10k elsewhere. Which leads to 2000 people losing jobs because that $10k per car is not spent. Multiply that throughout the economy and it’s why paying UAW slobs $200k is a net loss for the economy.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:34 AM (EhnMH)

323 Ah, and you're the one who decides, right?

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Nope. The market decided. That's my entire point. You’re arguing emotion. I’m arguing economic theory.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:35 AM (EhnMH)

324 All you guys think about is money.
Posted by: KT'

Don't forget pussy. That's important, too.

I'd explain but I was in The Balkans in the 1990s loaded down with enough money on me to do literally anything I wanted and realized in a lawless environment, it could not buy my life. The gun guaranteed my life, not some scrap paper or circular objects, and most importantly, the support of other people around me in the group I was in. Money cannot buy your life in a totally lawless environment.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:35 AM (43xH1)

325 Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 16, 2023 11:31 AM (C4xAj)
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Put simply, I'm broke. I only had money for the 2 front basement windows, but will do the rest of them when $ permits. Heaven knows I need to do them as well.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:35 AM (/SRMG)

326 320 People should be paid by the value they add.where white or blue collar. A person pushing a button on an assembly line is not contributing $73/hr of value.

Posted by: Montec

Unless you are a cost accountant, you really do not know this. In most cases, the bloat is in the administrative staff, not the line workers because the admin staff writes up who gets laid off for being non productive and the line staff is first to get hit. Same as public employment.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:35 AM (5jVrT)

327 All you guys think about is money.
Posted by: KT at September 16, 2023 11:30 AM (rrtZS)

Not true!

We also think of Rome.

https://archive.ph/U1334

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2023 11:35 AM (1Yy3c)

328
Speaking of false narratives, not everyone on an assembly line merely "pushes buttons".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:32 AM (4RGBH)

Whatever they do it’s not producing $73/hr plus benefits of value.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:36 AM (EhnMH)

329 Basic example. 1000 GM workers are helped. But because cars cost $10k more, people don’t spend that $10k elsewhere. Which leads to 2000 people losing jobs because that $10k per car is not spent. Multiply that throughout the economy and it’s why paying UAW slobs $200k is a net loss for the economy.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:34 AM (EhnMH)

Nobody's putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy an over-priced new car. Buy a '74 Ford Maverick for fifty bucks, and learn to fix it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:36 AM (4RGBH)

330 Makes everything we buy more expensive. It’s Econ 101. It’s also how tariffs work. They help a small segment while making everything more expensive for everyone else.

Basic example. 1000 GM workers are helped. But because cars cost $10k more, people don’t spend that $10k elsewhere. Which leads to 2000 people losing jobs because that $10k per car is not spent. Multiply that throughout the economy and it’s why paying UAW slobs $200k is a net loss for the economy.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:34 AM (EhnMH)

Imagine if you had been around to teach Econ 101 to Henry Ford.

Think what he could have accomplished.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 16, 2023 11:36 AM (K6dNA)

331 The Russian 'memoir' also describes this dynamic: seeing looted German houses littered with gold coins and paper currency, Red Army soldiers using marks to wipe their asses.

What was it good for? It was useless in the USSR, in a total breakdown of society 'money' is value-less. I have experienced that. It's a shock. And once you decide not to purchase pussy, you're in a class of your own.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:37 AM (43xH1)

332 Nobody's putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy an over-priced new car. Buy a '74 Ford Maverick for fifty bucks, and learn to fix it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:36 AM (4RGBH)

In the aggregate economy everyone pays more.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:37 AM (EhnMH)

333 "Push a button!!!"

- Airplane

(and just like that it's a movie thread too)

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:38 AM (/SRMG)

334 Nobody's putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy an over-priced new car. Buy a '74 Ford Maverick for fifty bucks, and learn to fix it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

Someone is showing they might not be actually 29.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:38 AM (43xH1)

335 In the aggregate economy everyone pays more.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:37 AM (EhnMH)

Well, the stupid among us do.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:38 AM (4RGBH)

336 For years in my FFT (Failed Factory Town) you could buy a house for $20K, move in today. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad, either.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:26 AM (43xH1)

My family fled the Irish Hills region of MI in the 70's because of the union blacklist crap. My dad's dad was a judge and most of the union leaders had been in front of him at one point or another. Dad got back from Nam and after school at Easter Michigan there wasn't a job to be had.
I too have turned down many a union job on principle. I know the local Pipe Fitters president. Still won't do it.

Posted by: Reforger at September 16, 2023 11:38 AM (B705c)

337 Makes everything we buy more expensive. It’s Econ 101. It’s also how tariffs work. They help a small segment while making everything more expensive for everyone else.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:34 AM (EhnMH)
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LOL, not quite. Wages don't drive inflation, the money supply does. Always has.

Again, that's corporatist propaganda "We have to keep wages down! It's for your own good!"

Same with tariffs. They raise wages by protecting workers from competing against slave labor. There's no moral imperative to pay people the least possible wage. Oh, and when those jobs are exported, we get a trade deficit. The capital investment for the factory leaves the country, the wages earned leave the country, and the money spent for the cars leave the country.

If we used hard currency, this would be immediately obvious, and it was, which is why we went off the gold standard.

The reason we have inflation is that we have to print money to sustain the trade deficit and also runaway spending. It has nothing to do with wages.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:39 AM (llXky)

338 Someone is showing they might not be actually 29.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:38 AM (43xH1)

Hah.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:39 AM (4RGBH)

339 I only had money for the 2 front basement windows, but will do the rest of them when $ permits. Heaven knows I need to do them as well.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:35 AM (/SRMG)

Whenever I replace windows and exterior trim I use PVC.

Installing a window is not difficult, but it has to be done correctly or it will leak. Which you already know!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 16, 2023 11:40 AM (lQONO)

340 When an uneducated unskilled, drug addicted UAW worker makes $200k a year the entire economy suffers. Maybe that 1 town is better off. But on a macro scale we’re all worse off.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:25 AM (EhnMH)
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How?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Yes, I don't understand.

Posted by: Detroit, Gary, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 11:40 AM (e8Uou)

341 gotta say I’m kind of surprised there is so much support for UAW here. Keep in mind that money they’re making - $200k a year - is in part paid for with your tax dollars. Government Motors remember.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:40 AM (EhnMH)

342 I pray I someday understand economics the way other people do. It seems to lead to such a peace of mind and surety of life.

Since it's a prayer thread.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:41 AM (43xH1)

343 Installing a window is not difficult, but it has to be done correctly or it will leak. Which you already know!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 16, 2023 11:40 AM (lQONO)

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Every youtube video I've seen on it makes it look easy and they're all under 10 minutes long. I figure I can bang out two of them in about 18 minutes!

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (/SRMG)

344 Nope. The market decided. That's my entire point. You’re arguing emotion. I’m arguing economic theory.
Posted by: Montec
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You are really ignorant of labor economics aren't you. Labor is actually unique in where it has a backward bending curve--at a certain pricepoint, you will quit no matter how high the wage rate is because you need to sleep or you die.

What the labor market has is a market distorted by academic credentials required after Griggs v. Duke Power in order not to be sued. Then there are other crap required by lenders, investors, etc., now you get to where the leaders and the interlocking board in a mutually assured rip off pay themselves well over market rates. Corporate governance today is by and large a Confederacy of Dunces.

What you end up with is something like monopolistic competition rather than a true free market based on ability and performance. Labor markets consist of silos where certain gatekeeper requirements more or less stop outside entrants to those jobs. This means a smaller pool for employers to choose from and thus higher wages ceterus paribus.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (5jVrT)

345 The Horde is feisty this morning.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (u73oe)

346 When an uneducated unskilled, drug addicted UAW worker makes $200k a year the entire economy suffers. Maybe that 1 town is better off. But on a macro scale we’re all worse off.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:25 AM (EhnMH)

When you ask a Scot why he votes SNP when they steal and abuse the voters so badly, you get the response that Thatcher screwed over Da and Gran with privatisation and he lost his job I'll never vote Tory

I only bring that up, because it seems an insane level of stereotyping that has little connection with the current world and a lot to do with firmly held learned principles that lead to self hammering ones' own testicles with a large hammer to carry out some sort of revenge.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (xhaym)

347 gotta say I’m kind of surprised there is so much support for UAW here. Keep in mind that money they’re making - $200k a year - is in part paid for with your tax dollars. Government Motors remember.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:40 AM (EhnMH)

See? You are conflating an understanding of economics with "support for the UAW". Fuck 'em all, the unions and the bloated corps that they parasitize.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (4RGBH)

348 Every youtube video I've seen on it makes it look easy and they're all under 10 minutes long. I figure I can bang out two of them in about 18 minutes!
Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (/SRMG)

Same way painting a room only takes 30 mins on YouTube. Weirdly in really life it’s a day’s effort.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:43 AM (EhnMH)

349 It's funny, one of the bedrock principles of the GOP was protection (tariffs) for American industry. It worked.

So did cutting immigration. Real wages rose, standards of living rose. Inflation was almost nonexistent because we had currency pegged to the dollar.

Then we embraced fiat money, began exporting jobs, allowed massive immigration and the government went on a spending spree. That's what drove inflation and it is well documented.

But I love the idea of blaming "lazy workers." I used to even believe it. It was always a lie.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:43 AM (llXky)

350 345 The Horde is feisty this morning.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (u73oe)
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I've had my ass handed to me here before. I don't remember now what the issue was... something about the church, money, and political power. I still think I was right!

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:44 AM (/SRMG)

351 342 I pray I someday understand economics the way other people do. It seems to lead to such a peace of mind and surety of life.

Since it's a prayer thread.
Posted by: LenNeal
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Nah, economics is the dismal science but human history is the truly tragic one.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:44 AM (5jVrT)

352
The reason we have inflation is that we have to print money to sustain the trade deficit and also runaway spending. It has nothing to do with wages.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Right. Cost-push inflation is soooo passé. McD's small french fries are $2.49 because of trade deficit?

Posted by: Detroit, Gary, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 11:44 AM (e8Uou)

353 See? You are conflating an understanding of economics with "support for the UAW". Fuck 'em all, the unions and the bloated corps that they parasitize.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (4RGBH)

Understanding of economics would not lead one to support a UAW slob making $200k a year. There is no scenario where that slob is contributing anywhere close to $200k of value. It’s a job anyone can do with a small amount of training. It should be a $12-15 an hour job.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:45 AM (EhnMH)

354 Same way painting a room only takes 30 mins on YouTube. Weirdly in really life it’s a day’s effort.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:43 AM (EhnMH)
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Now a day's worth of painting is DEFINITELY worth $73!

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:45 AM (/SRMG)

355 Every youtube video I've seen on it makes it look easy and they're all under 10 minutes long. I figure I can bang out two of them in about 18 minutes!
Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (/SRMG)

I would suggest that you look at the openings in the wall, and if the bottom of the opening is level, maybe trowel on a little grout to make it slope slightly from inside to outside, so that any moisture that might get by the caulking will trickle to the outside when it reaches the bottom of the opening.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:46 AM (4RGBH)

356 The least I ever paid for a car was USD$35 for a Subaru XJC(?) Some weird sedan, some guy who owed me money signed over the title. It had the flat 4 in the back and wasn't bad. I gave it to a Mexican neighbor.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:46 AM (43xH1)

357 I pray I someday understand economics the way other people do. It seems to lead to such a peace of mind and surety of life.
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Harry Truman pleaded: “Give me a one-handed economist."

Posted by: Detroit, Gary, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 11:46 AM (IbRy1)

358 Nah, economics is the dismal science but human history is the truly tragic one.
Posted by: whig'

The religious sciences is where I get my positive inspiration!

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:47 AM (43xH1)

359 Then we embraced fiat money, began exporting jobs, allowed massive immigration and the government went on a spending spree. That's what drove inflation and it is well documented.

But I love the idea of blaming "lazy workers." I used to even believe it. It was always a lie.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:43 AM (llXky)

I personally got great insight from abandoning my inherited conceptions about fiat currency and looking at the issue anew with "new eyes".

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 16, 2023 11:47 AM (K6dNA)

360 Understanding of economics would not lead one to support a UAW slob making $200k a year. There is no scenario where that slob is contributing anywhere close to $200k of value. It’s a job anyone can do with a small amount of training. It should be a $12-15 an hour job.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:45 AM (EhnMH)

You have the makings of a dedicated Bernie-bot. You are all eaten up with the politics of envy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:47 AM (4RGBH)

361 I love the idea of blaming "lazy workers." I used to even believe it. It was always a lie.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:43 AM (llXky)

When an unskilled, uneducated, drunk UAW workers makes 5X more than the value they add, they deserve the blame.

Is UAW to blame for all the economic ills we have? Of course not. But they do contribute.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:47 AM (EhnMH)

362 Harry Truman pleaded: “Give me a one-handed economist."
Posted by: Detroit, Gary, etc., etc.'

What, so he can jerk himself off and leave the rest of us alone?

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:48 AM (43xH1)

363 It should be a $12-15 an hour job.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:45 AM (EhnMH)

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As alluded to before, I'm broke. I recently looked into preparing taxes for H&R Block as a side gig. They only pay $17.50/hr for tax preparers. Jackson Hewitt is less. It is mostly brain-dead activity for me, so I'm still considering it, but that just seems low. Then again, I'm in WY, where there's not state income tax, so my credentials may not be worth what they are in a taxed state.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:48 AM (/SRMG)

364 Note: please give a warning if your link goes to the abhorrent Bezos Amazon Compost.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 16, 2023 11:48 AM (NBVIP)

365 Now a day's worth of painting is DEFINITELY worth $73!
Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:45 AM (/SRMG)

Piker.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at September 16, 2023 11:48 AM (4RGBH)

366 I recollect a single frame cartoon. There was an obviously sick guy lying in a hospital bed, with a group of doctors huddled around on the other side of a room curtain. One of the doctors was saying, 'We've got to be careful with this one, he's an economist, so he's familiar with guesswork'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 11:49 AM (rx603)

367 gotta say I’m kind of surprised there is so much support for UAW here. Keep in mind that money they’re making - $200k a year - is in part paid for with your tax dollars. Government Motors remember.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:40 AM (EhnMH)
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I don't support the UAW, I'm simply not consumed with implacable hatred for it or line workers.

What I do know is that when plants close, entire regions suffer.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:49 AM (llXky)

368 Nah, economics is the dismal science but human history is the truly tragic one.
Posted by: whig'

Finance is the "dismal science"!

Economics is great!

Zepplins! Arctic Ice Breakers! Mines! Making and selling things! Big loud powerful machines!

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 16, 2023 11:49 AM (K6dNA)

369 In the end plants will shut down and the UAW slobs will be opioid addicts. These things have. A habit of working themselves out. If they were smart they’d save the money. But they’re not, they’ll blow it on RVs and boats.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:49 AM (EhnMH)

370 355 Every youtube video I've seen on it makes it look easy and they're all under 10 minutes long. I figure I can bang out two of them in about 18 minutes!
Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:42 AM (/SRMG)

Your rough sill at the bottom should have about 13 degrees or so slant to the outside to drain water. I also use PVC brick molding nowadays--more convenient, rot resistant and easier to cut than wood Only disadvantage is painting in some climates as the wood's porous surface works a bit better than pvc unless you rough the surface up a bit. But that is not a problem if you like white as you can leave it as it is.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:49 AM (5jVrT)

371 345 The Horde is feisty this morning.

Like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli.

Posted by: George Costanza at September 16, 2023 11:50 AM (NBVIP)

372 When an unskilled, uneducated, drunk UAW workers makes 5X more than the value they add, they deserve the blame.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:47 AM (EhnMH)

Hey buddy go *hic* go *hic* go *hic* *shits his pants* *Passes out*

Posted by: Some Unskilled, Uneducated, Drunk Union Worker at September 16, 2023 11:50 AM (1Yy3c)

373 So AOP - Tapcons in addition to Liquid Nails?

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:51 AM (/SRMG)

374 I would suggest that you look at the openings in the wall, and if the bottom of the opening is level, maybe trowel on a little grout to make it slope slightly from inside to outside, so that any moisture that might get by the caulking will trickle to the outside when it reaches the bottom of the opening.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

This is good advice. I'm not being a dick, but I've installed thousands of windows and yeah, you need a simple pitch to the outside for any fenestration. People get bogged down about level and you need an aggressive pitch on the base.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:51 AM (43xH1)

375 En mi casa toman Bustelo!

Posted by: Caffeinated Carlo at September 16, 2023 11:51 AM (83IzV)

376 gotta say I’m kind of surprised there is so much support for UAW here. Keep in mind that money they’re making - $200k a year - is in part paid for with your tax dollars. Government Motors remember.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:40 AM (EhnMH)

Unions are cartelization of labor enforced by the government, and it fits in with the government enforced cartels of the manufacturers and the importers and the producers of raw materials. What is driving most of the strife is inflation, not greed.

What is going on is a decision on who pays for the inflation, the producer, the labor, or the buyer. Your argument is that you, the buyer, shouldn't have to shoulder the cost of inflation, it should be Labor (UAW)

It is as invalid as the UAW position, or Ford's. However, you don't have representation as a consumer, and Labor and the auto manufacturers do.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 11:51 AM (xhaym)

377
What I do know is that when plants close, entire regions suffer.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:49 AM (llXky)

Because they brought it on themselves through greed. Notice how no Toyota plants ever shut down in the US? Why is that? No unions. Same with all foreign auto makers who operate in the US. They’re thriving.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (EhnMH)

378 The religious sciences is where I get my positive inspiration!
Posted by: LenNeal
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Theology is a most difficult subject and to do right requires vast knowledge. I tip my hat to you and wish you well in your endeavors.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (5jVrT)

379 This is good advice. I'm not being a dick, but I've installed thousands of windows and yeah, you need a simple pitch to the outside for any fenestration. People get bogged down about level and you need an aggressive pitch on the base.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:51 AM (43xH1)

You need a good aggressive pitch for defenestration, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (4RGBH)

380 Right. Cost-push inflation is soooo passé. McD's small french fries are $2.49 because of trade deficit?

Posted by: Detroit, Gary, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 11:44 AM (e8Uou)
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No, rampant government spending financed by yawning deficits.

Seriously, wage increases are a lagging indicator. Read some Milton Freeman.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (llXky)

381 I would not use Liquid Nails type sealer/caulk as it gets rock hard and can crack. I'd use some flexible sealant/caulk with a silicone base.

My 2 cents.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (43xH1)

382 What is going on is a decision on who pays for the inflation, the producer, the labor, or the buyer. Your argument is that you, the buyer, shouldn't have to shoulder the cost of inflation, it should be Labor (UAW)

It is as invalid as the UAW position, or Ford's. However, you don't have representation as a consumer, and Labor and the auto manufacturers do.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 11:51 AM (xhaym)

My contention is that the UAW creates the inflation.
I agree we have no representation. As consumers we could all boycott UAW products. And we would win in the end. But consumers suck at organizing this way.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:53 AM (EhnMH)

383 You need a good aggressive pitch for defenestration, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Ah. The baby and the bathwater!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 11:54 AM (yMEwp)

384 Nood California and KT

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:54 AM (5jVrT)

385 You need a good aggressive pitch for defenestration, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon'

There was this one guy?? In Prague? ?
And he was defenstrated??

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:54 AM (43xH1)

386 So AOP - Tapcons in addition to Liquid Nails?
Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:51 AM (/SRMG)

I just threw out Liquid Nails as an example of a construction adhesive. There are likely better products out there for your specific needs. A few Tapcons might be useful to hold the window secure until the adhesive cures.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 16, 2023 11:55 AM (4RGBH)

387 Also, Montec is not completely wrong. Whatever output a worker has should line up with their wages.

I'll use the McDonald's example. A minimum wage earner can flip my burgers and I'm ok with that. If they bump the minimum wage up to $73/hr (exaggerated, I know) then I won't be buying anything from them.

So I get what everyone is saying, but at the same time you can't pay someone more than their output is worth. Not for long anyway.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:55 AM (/SRMG)

388 I fought for 15 and 15 won. I lost.

Posted by: Laid off Mickey D's worker at September 16, 2023 11:55 AM (NBVIP)

389 Then again, I'm in WY, where there's not state income tax, so my credentials may not be worth what they are in a taxed state.
Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:48 AM (/SRMG)

Teleworking is the newest, hottest thing. Look to see if you can telework to NY or someplace like that for tax representation

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 11:56 AM (xhaym)

390 My contention is that the UAW creates the inflation.
I agree we have no representation. As consumers we could all boycott UAW products. And we would win in the end. But consumers suck at organizing this way.
Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:53 AM (EhnMH)

INFLATION IS CAUSED BY MONEY PRINTING

Pleas tattoo that on your forehead.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 11:57 AM (xhaym)

391 381 I would not use Liquid Nails type sealer/caulk as it gets rock hard and can crack. I'd use some flexible sealant/caulk with a silicone base.

My 2 cents.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (43xH1)

Thank you. If I use liquid nails it'll be as an adhesive. I agree on the need for a sealant caulk. And for sealants, silicone is unmatched, IMO. So I agree.

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:57 AM (/SRMG)

392 Because they brought it on themselves through greed. Notice how no Toyota plants ever shut down in the US? Why is that? No unions. Same with all foreign auto makers who operate in the US. They’re thriving.

Posted by: Montec at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (EhnMH)
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Ah, so those communities deserved to have those plants shut down and the jobs moved elsewhere because the workers were greedy. Not the executives, they're all monks who take vows of poverty. The workers were asking too much.

BTW, where do the profits from foreign-owned plants go?

I have to say it will be interesting to see how the UAW thing plays out, because so many states are now Right to Work. Strike discipline will be less than it was, methinks.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 16, 2023 11:58 AM (llXky)

393 Teleworking is the newest, hottest thing. Look to see if you can telework to NY or someplace like that for tax representation
Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 11:56 AM (xhaym)
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But then it wouldn't be brain-dead work for me!

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:59 AM (/SRMG)

394 496, you might get on with an out of state tax prep company

Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 12:03 PM (xhaym)

395 496, you might get on with an out of state tax prep company
Posted by: Kindltot at September 16, 2023 12:03 PM (xhaym)
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Amen, but like I said - then it wouldn't be 'brain dead work' for me!

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 12:08 PM (c90Kc)

396 Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 11:35 AM (/SRMG

You got this !

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 16, 2023 02:34 PM (C4xAj)

397

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2023 06:02 PM (1Yy3c)

398 Hhmmmm

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2023 06:02 PM (1Yy3c)

399 Harumph

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2023 06:08 PM (1Yy3c)

400 Sigh

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2023 06:10 PM (1Yy3c)

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