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The Morning Report — 9/11/23

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Good morning, kids. In the immortal words of America's sweetheart, Ilhan "Bro-Fo" Omar, 22 years ago today "some people did something."

Yeah, they sure did, tootsie. They sure did. I've heard tell that supposedly, as a few of those "people" were prepping to do that certain "something," the months of embedding themselves in the very culture and people that their ideology brainwashed them into believing was evil was in fact proving to them not to be the case at all. Dangerous thoughts since it's a short trip from there to examining the ideology that sent them on the one-way trip to hell in the first place.

Obviously, their belief in the Koran turned out to be more powerful than their lying eyes. And the rest as they say is history. The sad truth is that their ultimate goal of bringing down the West will be achieved, not be their fellow Islam-ikaze jihadists but by the very people they seek to conquer and or kill in the process. Since 9/11, this nation has not become more free or more united. Just the opposite. In point of fact, it's the Leftists of this world who right now are more strident, more virulent and more outspoken in their hatred of their own birthright, heritage and tradition than the most raging Islamic-Rage-Boy shrieking "I-keeel-you!" at the top of his lungs will ever be.

Just like Islam, they too seek to create a paradise on earth by converting or killing infidels. But give it time. For those keeping score, the name "Mohammed" is still the most popular baby name in much of western Europe, and one day, that might very well be the case over here. With the penchant for selfish childlessness or worse, the homosexualization and castration of America's children all the rage, I wouldn't bet on Western names one day overtaking "Mohammed." Unless it's a dark horse like "Pedro" or "Hop-Sing."

The other bitter irony of 9/11 is in the fact that what should have been a rededication to the defense of freedom and liberty by turning Mecca, Medina, Tehran and Kabul, with an option for Islamabad, into glass parking lots, was anything but. We've devolved into the worst form of navel-gazing and used the catastrophe to ramp up a bureaucracy that failed in protecting our national security in the first place. A bureaucracy that now considers the American people and their way of life to be the number one threat to national security. Of course, that nation is not America, despite occupying the same physical space. For those that need a reminder, that wasn't the leftists who did that. It was George W. Bush and the so-called neo-cons.

Here's one who deserves a large sack of flaming horse dung flung at her head:

Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley said during an interview over the weekend that Republicans should be in favor of sending additional support to Ukraine in its war against Russia, arguing that it only constituted a small portion of the U.S. defense budget. . .

“We know that Russia has said, once they take Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next, and then you’re looking at a full-on war,” she continued. “What we’re trying to do is prevent war. That’s a pretty good return on investment to prevent war.”

“I think that we need to continue giving them equipment and ammunition with our allies to win,” she said, adding that she did not want to put troops on the ground.

“Republicans and Democrats should not pull an Afghanistan,” Haley continued. “Don’t go pulling out now.”

"Don't go pulling out now." That's what she told her husband last night. 3,000 dead on one day and another 3,000 over the course of the ensuing 20 years. Afghanistan didn't have nukes. The Russians do. Meanwhile, this dusky douchebag is attacking one of the only sensible Republicans in the Senate, Tommy Tuberville, because he's holding up the promotions of some truly sick, leftist officers that are the tip of the spear in destroying our morale and combat readiness because of the illegal abortion funding in the DoD budget.

There's your Republican Party, ladies and gents. What a fucking joke. Worse than a joke. Traitors and frauds working to line their pockets while the left angles to line us up against a wall. And speaking of which, I give you the rotting vegetable posing as Commander-in-Chief:

The doddering corruptocrat who is currently serving as the alleged president of the United States plans to mark the twenty-second anniversary of the deadliest jihad attacks in American history, and one of the most significant in the history of the entire world, by getting about as far away as he can get from the sites of the attacks while remaining in the United States: Old Joe will be spending Sept. 11, 2023 in Alaska. The Daily Caller’s Brianna Lyman labeled Biden’s 9/11 plans a “slap in the face,” and that’s exactly what they are. What else could anyone expect from this America-Last regime?

It all started when one of Biden’s old congressional henchmen, former Rep. Barney Frank (D-LGBTQWTF), dismissed complaints about the plan to send the regime’s figurehead to Alaska instead of to New York, Pennsylvania, or even the Pentagon, the three places where the attacks actually occurred, as “insignificant” and “not a big deal.” Old Joe and his massive taxpayer-funded entourage will stop in Alaska for a quick 9/11 memorial ceremony (during which Biden is likely to be impatiently checking his watch again) on their way back from Vietnam.

What’s Biden going to be doing in Vietnam? Reporting on the success of the Marxist infiltration and subversion of the American government and business superstructure? According to the White House, Old Joe will be meeting with his fellow Commie, Vietnamese General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong, “and other key leaders to discuss ways to further deepen cooperation between the United States and Vietnam. The leaders will explore opportunities to promote the growth of a technology-focused and innovation-driven Vietnamese economy, expand our people-to-people ties through education exchanges and workforce development programs, combat climate change, and increase peace, prosperity, and stability in the region.”

. . . It’s peculiarly fitting that Old Joe will be spreading climate change propaganda on the eve of the 9/11 anniversary; the massive attack on the United States that took place on that day is now being followed by the destruction of the nation from within by venal kleptocrats including Biden, under the cynical rubric of saving the environment. . .

. . . Twenty-two years after 9/11, the Biden regime is busy framing its principal opponent for various crimes, and thereby systematically destroying the republic that the jihadis so severely damaged on that fateful day. The biggest terror threat the nation faces, regime talking heads have assured us repeatedly, are not Islamic jihadis, whom they steadfastly refuse to admit even exist, but “white supremacists,” by which they mean law-abiding citizens who oppose the regime. Twenty-two years after 9/11, the jihadis have not won, but internal enemies and saboteurs who share many of their authoritarian objectives and have often counted them as their allies are near victory.

Of course it's a slap in the face, but does Joey Sponge-Brain Shits-Pants even realize it, given the state of his melting brain? For sure, his handlers do. You better believe they too were cheering and handing out candy when the Twin Towers fell every bit as much as the ululating burqa-clad fat Fatimas in Gaza and Jersey City that day. Sorry Islamos, but there's no hate hotter than self-hate. In a way, that describes why Islam is the way it is because they've been stuck in the 8th century while the world has passed them by during the ensuing centuries. Of course, with our own self-immolation in the wake of the two world wars and the debasement of Judeo-Christian culture over the past century-plus, you could make a case for which is worse.

In a way, I'm kind of glad Biden isn't here on the 9/11 anniversary. Among the worst citizens in this nation's history, looking at his watch, farting or comparing the Twin Towers to his kitchen fire, or that Beau Biden was one of the firefighters who raced into the doomed buildings and lost his life as a hero, would be the bitter end and a debasement to end all debasements. Here's what happened in Vietnam to underscore that:

Speaking of Biden's melting brain, gevalt:

Biden, 80, made an awkward joke where he called the 1987 anti-Vietnam War movie Good Morning, Vietnam, a “song.”

“One of my staff members said, remember the famous song ‘Good Morning Vietnam’? Well, good evening, Vietnam,” he said to no laughter. . .

. . . “Did you ever think you’d be sitting at a G-20 conference where everyone was preoccupied with the notion of global warming? Not a joke, did you ever think that?” he said.

He then launched into sharing a scene from a John Wayne movie, where Indians accused Union soldiers of being “lying dog-faced pony soldiers,” and likened them to climate change skeptics.

“Well there’s a lot of lying dog-faced pony soldiers out there about global warming,” he said. “But not anymore. All of a sudden, they’re all realizing it — there’s a problem. And there’s nothing like seeing the light.”

He then went to call on another reporter, but could not find the list of reporters.

“I’m just following my orders here,” he said, as he searched for the list on the podium before him. . .

. . . He then used the term “Third World” again, before saying, “excuse me, Third World, the, uh, the Southern Hemisphere.”

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre interrupted with, “Thank you everybody. This ends the press conference. Thanks everyone.”

Loud jazz music then began playing.

"Shecky" Biden, ladies and germs! Don't forget to tip your waiter - 10%. So entertaining they had to give him the hook.

Back here in the land of the freebie and the home of the enslaved, it looks like someone else is taking notice and auditioning for the lead:

But New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham is defending her order, claiming it was necessary to protect “public health,” and besides, her oath to uphold the Constitution was not “absolute.

“No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute,” she retorted after being asked whether her order violated her oath of office to “uphold the Constitution.”

It’s true there are exceptions to most of our Constitutional rights. We can’t yell “Fire!” in a crowded theater, for example. There’s also the “fighting words doctrine” that makes incitement to violence illegal.

But anyone who claims there are exceptions to their oath needs to be impeached. The words “oath” and “absolute” pretty much go together. And this cretin of a governor is looking to separate them because she’s gotten herself in a heap of trouble. . .

. . . Gun violence is sort of like a disease — “amounted to an epidemic” — so let’s toss the Constitution into the trash. After all, isn’t that what the government did during the pandemic?

The National Association for Gun Rights has already filed suit to block the executive order. Legal experts believe the suit is a slam dunk. But Lujan-Grisham is undeterred. She believes 1+1=3.

“I have emergency powers,” she said. “Gun violence is an epidemic. Therefore, it’s an emergency.”

Huh? This woman gives non-sequiturs a bad name. . .

The effort to tie public health to an inability to enforce gun laws is one of the left’s most cynical end runs around the Constitution. In this instance, the exercise is likely to be shot down in record time.

Down the road, this does not end well. Remember the outrage over homosexual marriage not even 10 years ago? And now the outrage to decriminalize pedophilia? When the Overton Window is pushed, it never gets pushed back the other way and then slammed closed.

At least this happened:


Dozens of peaceful New Mexicans were observed open carrying their firearms in protest, per video shared online by Ford Fischer.

New Mexico gun owners rallied in Albuquerque today in open defiance of the New Mexico Governor’s order banning open and concealed carry of firearms there as a one-month “emergency.”

Police did not intervene or enforce the order. Footage by @FordFischer. pic.twitter.com/pWiBW2Y4zV

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) September 10, 2023

“This will not stand, we will not comply!”

“Look what the U.S. government did to the Native Americans, they tried to strip them of their rights. This is the same thing. Our Apachee brother resisted until the very end, the Navajos. We have to be the same, resilient!”

A woman who self-identified as an indigenous person then stood up to say that’s why she’s at the rally; the government does not protect her or her family. Other speakers then took to the stage to discuss the Second Amendment.

Police reportedly did not intervene or enforce the so-called public health order.

Thank goodness for that. Then again, when the government threatens to take away jobs and pensions, whose side will the police and military take?

In the wake of 9/11/01, these questions are sadly more relevant than ever before, considering the law enforcement and national security collective bureaucracies' abject failure in protecting America on that horrible day. Worse, on their penchant to target the citizenry for opposing a criminal, illegitimate regime it helped install via the sabotaging of the previous president and the aiding and abetting in his overthrow.

On a personal note, I remember a classmate whose life was snuffed out needlessly that day thanks to a government that left her vulnerable. And that is unforgivable.

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1 Happy Monday

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 11, 2023 07:50 AM (BRHaw)

2 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Inogame at September 11, 2023 07:50 AM (53oGX)

3 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 11, 2023 07:50 AM (sNtYB)

4 Good morning everyone. Thank you J.J.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 07:50 AM (IaTa3)

5
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 11, 2023 07:50 AM (ENBF0)

6 Mornin’, All. It’s 9/11, so I’m not wishing anyone a happy anything today.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2023 07:51 AM (xTRSc)

7 Verse for the Day:

"Make a joyful noise to the Lord, all the lands! Serve the Lord with gladness! Come into his presence with singing! Know that the Lord is God! It is he that made us, and we are his; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture. Enter his gates with thanksgiving, and his courts with praise! Give thanks to him, bless his name! For the Lord is good; his steadfast love endures for ever, and his faithfulness to all generations."

–Psalm 100

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 07:51 AM (IaTa3)

8 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 11, 2023 07:52 AM (Y9yUc)

9 Thanks Minneapolis; really appreciate you sending a tac-dodging, brother marrying, terror-loving fraud to Congress.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2023 07:52 AM (P5xEc)

10 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2023 07:52 AM (T6uIK)

11 Thank you, J.J.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 07:53 AM (isNL8)

12 “We know that Russia has said, once they take Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next, and then you’re looking at a full-on war,” she continued. “What we’re trying to do is prevent war. That’s a pretty good return on investment to prevent war.”

War is Peace.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 11, 2023 07:55 AM (BRHaw)

13
Willowed

Club of Rome's Dennis Meadows: "The Planet Can Support Something Like a Billion People"

I think the Upper Crust and the Climate mob have an agreement. The Upper Crust, being small in number, gets to keep their lifestyle (yachts, private planes, five-star hotels, Waygu beef, etc.). In return, the Climate Red Guards will be unleashed on us low-class proles, who will shiver in our dark hovels and communal apartments, eat our meager ration of bug bread and die of diseases once easily cured.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 07:55 AM (MoZTd)

14 Good morning again dear morons and thanks JJ

Still not ready to forgive.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2023 07:56 AM (RIvkX)

15 Yeah, Nikki Haley. One of several thousand reasons why the GOP is No Go for me

Posted by: Ex GOP at September 11, 2023 07:56 AM (qS8WV)

16 I turn away whenever any of those horrific 9/11 clips or pics are shown. They wrench my stomach.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 11, 2023 07:56 AM (Y9yUc)

17 Good Morning.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2023 07:57 AM (eG/xm)

18 Haley revealed her true colors over the flag. She did permanent damage to the state.

Posted by: fd at September 11, 2023 07:58 AM (vFG9F)

19 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2023 07:58 AM (Q4IgG)

20 Never Forget 9/11/2001. 🇺🇸

Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2023 07:58 AM (NpAcC)

21 "Biden Holds Bizarre, Rambling Press Conference".

He has no other type of press conferences as his brain is broken.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2023 07:58 AM (xsBhv)

22 Still not ready to forgive.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

An Archbishop friend of mine counsels that one should forgive, "but never, ever forget what those f*ckers did to us."

He's a complicated and interesting man.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 07:58 AM (IaTa3)

23 Those who want to drastically cut the number of people living on the planet are welcome to go self-immolate in front of a Chinese embassy. They'd be helping their cause and sending a message. Win Win

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2023 07:59 AM (K6vwr)

24 morning horde

top 100

covfefe & content time...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 11, 2023 07:59 AM (KZaqS)

25 It is of course the perfect, perverse paradox that those who claim that "saving one life is worth" the sacrifices of liberty are the covert genocidists.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 07:59 AM (GFoyL)

26 “We know that Russia has said, once they take Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next, and then you’re looking at a full-on war,”

When did they say this?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 11, 2023 07:59 AM (Angsy)

27 From last thread:
236 Has anyone seen polynikes commenting?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 11, 2023 07:46 AM (JHH2u)

Seems like I saw him last week some time, but I could be experiencing a 29 year old moment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:00 AM (zZu0s)

28
We can’t yell “Fire!” in a crowded theater, for example. There’s also the “fighting words doctrine” that makes incitement to violence illegal.

Mr. Justice Holmes said you can't falsely yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater. In any case, that decision was later replaced by the Brandenburg doctrine, which says that even incitement to violence is protected speech unless is likely to produce such action.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 08:00 AM (MoZTd)

29 "When did they say this?
Posted by: OrangeEnt

1945?

Posted by: fd at September 11, 2023 08:00 AM (vFG9F)

30 The only thing missing from the Joetards presser was the hook and siren that the Apollo theater deploys when someone stinks up the place

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 11, 2023 08:00 AM (ZV+pB)

31
There were two things I could tell the PA State Police spokesperson was pissed about yesterday - in regards to the escaped Brazilian killer. The first was that someone left the keys in the truck he got away with. The second was that the killer showed up on the doorstep of some associate in the town five minutes from where I live. That associate called police. Two fvcking hours later.

Anyone care for a cup of collusion in the 'migrant' community?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 11, 2023 08:01 AM (enJYY)

32 I was home with a bad back when I turn on the tv that day. I actually went on a news station, which I never really did. The smoke coming off the one tower made me give my mom a ring since she was back in Jersey. She said," they think the pilot had a heart attach and as soon as her words came out of her mouth, in the corner of the tv screen came the other plane, and with that my mom starting yelling, I have to go, I have to go." I don't think I have ever screamed or cried as much as I did that day.

Posted by: sidney at September 11, 2023 08:01 AM (Uy/WF)

33 21 "Biden Holds Bizarre, Rambling Press Conference".

As opposed to Trump's cogent, decisive, dead-on, uninhibited and totally transparent helicopter press conferences.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:01 AM (GFoyL)

34 You know the New Mexico order is giving the Dems' game away when Ted Lieu and David Hogg have both said it's stupid and un-Constitutional.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 11, 2023 08:01 AM (OyOhQ)

35
An Archbishop friend of mine counsels that one should forgive, "but never, ever forget what those f*ckers did to us."

I've seen it expressed, "Everything is forgiven. But everything has to be paid for."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 08:02 AM (MoZTd)

36 “No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute,” she retorted after being asked whether her order violated her oath of office to “uphold the Constitution.”
====
She's a little unclear on the concept of "oath"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2023 08:02 AM (RIvkX)

37 Grisham is just doing what whe has been told, which is why she is so incoherent. This is a coordinated effort from the top.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 11, 2023 08:02 AM (lTGtQ)

38 26 “We know that Russia has said, once they take Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next, and then you’re looking at a full-on war,”

When did they say this?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 11, 2023 07:59 AM (Angsy)

As far as I know, they have never said this.

Putin has:

-bemoaned the dissolution of the Soviet satellites and the 'Union' in general.

-He may have done this more than once, as it seemed to be more a political philosophy kind of thing

-everything else has been supposition and innuendo- or outright fabrication/scaremongering.

Hell, I thought Ukraine was marching on Moscow like 4 or 5 months ago and Putin was either about to die of cancer, coup or whatever?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:02 AM (zZu0s)

39 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2023 08:03 AM (SEDrX)

40 Ironically, John D Rockefeller did more to save the whales than anyone else by providing cheap kerosene for lamps that replaced expensive whale oil. If it weren't for oil we'd be freezing in the dark, and whales would be extinct.

By pushing for windmills, The Church of the Left wants us to freeze in the dark, and make eagles and whales extinct.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2023 08:03 AM (K6vwr)

41 CHASER: Americans Overwhelmingly Support Age Limits For Elected Officials – Poll
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Even if this were somehow allowed to make it as a referendum on a ballot, the Machine will never allow it to be enacted. TPTB simply won't accept that.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 11, 2023 08:03 AM (YIVH2)

42 1945?

Posted by: fd at September 11, 2023 08:00 AM (vFG9F)

Yeah, so in other words, more lies from the war mongers.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 11, 2023 08:03 AM (Angsy)

43 "She said," they think the pilot had a heart attach and as soon as her words came out of her mouth, in the corner of the tv screen came the other plane"

We were all perplexed as to how an accident like that could happen up until that moment. Things changed forever in seconds.

Posted by: fd at September 11, 2023 08:03 AM (vFG9F)

44 41 CHASER: Americans Overwhelmingly Support Age Limits For Elected Officials – Poll
---
Even if this were somehow allowed to make it as a referendum on a ballot, the Machine will never allow it to be enacted. TPTB simply won't accept that.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 11, 2023 08:03 AM (YIVH2)

A lot of the NTers favor it, but just because it would work against Trump, not from any coherent reason that I can tell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:04 AM (zZu0s)

45
“We know that Russia has said, once they take Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next, and then you’re looking at a full-on war,”

Does anyone looking at the last year-plus of this war really think Russia is going to go storming to the Rhine?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 08:05 AM (MoZTd)

46 I've got my American flag flying today and will continue to put it out every 9/11 so that the people around me will be reminded of this day.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2023 08:05 AM (NpAcC)

47 40 Ironically, John D Rockefeller did more to save the whales than anyone else by providing cheap kerosene for lamps that replaced expensive whale oil. If it weren't for oil we'd be freezing in the dark, and whales would be extinct.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2023 08:03 AM (K6vwr)

Great point.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:05 AM (GFoyL)

48 I never thought I’d write this sentence: The two worst presidents in our modern history are Brandon and George W. Brandon is obvious and may be in a league of his own incompetency…. But W used 9/11 to grow and empower our own internal stasi-like bureaucracy and his actions in his last year in office led us to BO who really started to actively destroy the country. BO (or whoever ran things for him) wasn’t incompetent; they were pretty good at destruction. I’d say without W we never would’ve had barky.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 08:05 AM (R/Mh9)

49 43 "She said," they think the pilot had a heart attach and as soon as her words came out of her mouth, in the corner of the tv screen came the other plane"

We were all perplexed as to how an accident like that could happen up until that moment. Things changed forever in seconds.
Posted by: fd at September 11, 2023 08:03 AM (vFG9F)

Dad had woken my lazy ass up and gotten me out to the living room in between the first and second plane.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:06 AM (zZu0s)

50 I've got my American flag flying today and will continue to put it out every 9/11 so that the people around me will be reminded of this day.
Posted by: redridinghood

Is it proper to fly it half-staff today?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 08:06 AM (IaTa3)

51 "Haley revealed her true colors over the flag. She did permanent damage to the state."

This.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:07 AM (isNL8)

52 Not that I would have voted for Nikki Haley but why isn't everyone making a bigger deal about the FACT that both her parents were not citizens of the United States when she was born. This makes her native born not natural born. I mean at least Obama had one parent (still wrong, but close) citizen parent. Does she have dual citizenship with India? Does this mean that anchor babies who's parents crawled over the border and are illegal can be president one day? That should be a hard NO.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:07 AM (DBrN4)

53 The response to 9/11… what more can be said about it? DC showed its true colors.

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:07 AM (PCK5/)

54 48 I never thought I’d write this sentence: The two worst presidents in our modern history are Brandon and George W. Brandon is obvious and may be in a league of his own incompetency…. But W used 9/11 to grow and empower our own internal stasi-like bureaucracy and his actions in his last year in office led us to BO who really started to actively destroy the country. BO (or whoever ran things for him) wasn’t incompetent; they were pretty good at destruction. I’d say without W we never would’ve had barky.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 08:05 AM (R/Mh9)

Probable Good top five picks. Bush mostly for what he allowed to happen (a massive increase in bureaucratic power and a change in how we thought of civil liberties.)

We were wrong to support all that shit. Just plain wrong. Camel's nose.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:07 AM (zZu0s)

55 Is it proper to fly it half-staff today?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 08:06 AM (IaTa3)

It should be at half-staff until the next president.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 11, 2023 08:07 AM (Angsy)

56 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2023 08:07 AM (T4tVD)

57 "Is it proper to fly it half-staff today?
Posted by: Tonypete

If they can do it for Whitney Houston then by all means.

Posted by: fd at September 11, 2023 08:07 AM (vFG9F)

58
When is the flag NOT flying at half staff?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 08:08 AM (MoZTd)

59 I don't remember Putin ever declaring an intent to wage war on NATO, by attacking a NATO country.

But, I seem to forget a lot of things lately.

So....who knows.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:08 AM (isNL8)

60
Let's not forget who applauded on 9/11

- Palestinians
- Eurotrash pseudo-intellectualiods and their American oikophobic orbiters

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 08:09 AM (MoZTd)

61 White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre interrupted with, “Thank you everybody. This ends the press conference. Thanks everyone.”

Loud jazz music then began playing.

Come on, babe
Why dont we paint the town?
And all that jazz

I'm gonna rouge my knees
And roll my stockings down
And all that jazz

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 11, 2023 08:09 AM (BRHaw)

62 59 I don't remember Putin ever declaring an intent to wage war on NATO, by attacking a NATO country.

But, I seem to forget a lot of things lately.

So....who knows.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:08 AM (isNL

I don't think he ever has. A lot of saber rattling and mostly people inferring intent from other things he has said. Because it serves their purposes to do so.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:10 AM (zZu0s)

63 The number of people that have died from the toxic dust on 9/11 surpasses the number of people that were killed on that horrific day.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2023 08:10 AM (NpAcC)

64 Good morning one and all despite the day.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 11, 2023 08:10 AM (4olE8)

65 An Archbishop friend of mine counsels that one should forgive, "but never, ever forget what those f*ckers did to us."

I've seen it expressed, "Everything is forgiven. But everything has to be paid for."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 08:02 AM (MoZTd)

Yes…it is called justice.

Posted by: 7man at September 11, 2023 08:10 AM (qwO6y)

66 I remember that day. I was listening to XM Radio, Fox and Friends and they starting discussing a commuter plane hitting the world trade, I didn't pay too much attention but was listening. Then someone mentioned that it wasn't a small plane and I yelled to my co-workers, something's going on in New York. We all filed into one of the offices that had TV and while we were watching the smoke from the first tower we saw the next plane come in. At that point, OMG that feeling I will never forget. Anger, rage and sadness. I will say I did thank God that Bush was in the white house than Al Gore however. Maybe I was wrong about that, not sure.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:10 AM (DBrN4)

67 51 "Haley revealed her true colors over the flag. She did permanent damage to the state."

This.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:07 AM (isNL

Proved she would cave to the imperium. Standard issue RINO.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:10 AM (GFoyL)

68 63 The number of people that have died from the toxic dust on 9/11 surpasses the number of people that were killed on that horrific day.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2023 08:10 AM (NpAcC)

I am skeptical of all statistics about anything for the past 25 years- not because I think they might be unbelievable one way, but rather in any way.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:11 AM (zZu0s)

69 I don't know any South Carolina resident that supports Nikki Haley as a desirable Presidential candidate

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:12 AM (isNL8)

70 I know that Kristi Noem isn't ideal as a VP pick but I believe Trump will pick her now after she endorsed him. I think that's why she endorsed him. That was a pretty good rally he had there. At least she's an American, a little Rino'ish but there are worse VP candidates I guess.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:13 AM (DBrN4)

71 “No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute,” she retorted after being asked whether her order violated her oath of office to “uphold the Constitution.”

Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

We agree there, as I would approve of you getting a beat down ass whipping.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 11, 2023 08:13 AM (BRHaw)

72 On this day 50 years ago, elements of the Fuerza Aerea launched an assault on the La Moneda Palace in preparation for an incursion of ground troops, precipitating the gunshot suicide of Communist dictator Salvador Allende, who used the custom-engraved AK-47 given him by fellow Communist dictator Fidel Castro to clean his own stain from the face of this cursed Earth.

So, just remember - one thing about September 11 *doesn't* suck - in fact, it warms the cockles of my heart.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2023 08:14 AM (0FoWg)

73 And I’ll sadly admit I was completely supportive of W and his GWOT after 9/11… and the patriot act and the Iraq war etc etc…. I was so outraged by the attack on the country that I lost my mind for at least 2 years. I do remember questioning the whole narrative and ironically it happened when Saddam was hanged. Of course that scumbag deserved it, but there was chaos and that execution…. Nothing like how something like that should be conducted in an orderly society and I remember thinking: Wow… our supposed allies in Iraq… the people we handed the country to are acting barbarically….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 08:14 AM (R/Mh9)

74 Good morning

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:14 AM (t0OGg)

75 69- do you think she could lose her state in the primaries, that is unless she drops out before her state's primaries?

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:14 AM (DBrN4)

76 Can't get worked up about 9/11 services anymore. The terrorist attack was used to ramp up the surveillance state, increase govt power, keep American paranoid and compliant and impose massive security everywhere, all which is now being turned against us (with an exemption for illegals.) That is what we should be mourning.

Posted by: Ripley at September 11, 2023 08:14 AM (JojsZ)

77 White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre interrupted with, “Thank you everybody. This ends the press conference. Thanks everyone.”

Loud jazz music then began playing.
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Wouldn't "Yakkity Sax" make more sense?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 11, 2023 08:14 AM (YIVH2)

78 Is it proper to fly it half-staff today?
Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 08:06 AM (IaTa3)
******
If you are able to adjust your flag, I think it would be good idea.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2023 08:14 AM (NpAcC)

79 “No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute,” she retorted after being asked whether her order violated her oath of office to “uphold the Constitution.”
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Uhhh, yeah. Yeah, they are. Those with exceptions have exceptions called out. Your security in your papers and property is not absolute, for example. It can be abrogated, but only with the due process of law.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:15 AM (t0OGg)

80 The review of "Golda", about the 1973 war, is a sobering read. It was a near-miss thing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2023 08:16 AM (c29e4)

81 I’m just following my orders here,” he said, as he searched for the list on the podium before him. . .

. . . He then used the term “Third World” again, before saying, “excuse me, Third World, the, uh, the Southern Hemisphere.”

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre interrupted with, “Thank you everybody. This ends the press conference. Thanks everyone.”

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I heard someone discussing it this morning.

They're abruptly ending these events because Joetato is admitting to crimes.

At a recent event he told everyone that he sold state secrets.

At this one he said he doesn't want to contain China (his bribes)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 11, 2023 08:16 AM (NYUSO)

82 Not gonna forget the malfeasance and dumbassery that lead us into 9/11, nor forgive what has been done in the name of 'security' afterwards.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 11, 2023 08:16 AM (YRsIm)

83 One thing I can agree about with Nikki Haley: underestimating wouldn't be fun. It would be a thankless, Sysiphean task that couldn't be achieved with any amount of effort.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2023 08:16 AM (0FoWg)

84 I was on a plane that morning. Ended up spending several days in an airport.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 11, 2023 08:16 AM (lTGtQ)

85 73 Linus, I agree with you. I never saw how the Patriot Act could be turned against us by a marxist manchurian candidate like Barrack Obama. The fact that Bush is friendly with the Clintons and the Obama's really upsets me in that I was so gullible to think he was on our side. I was proud to vote for him twice. Ugh.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:16 AM (DBrN4)

86 "the people we handed the country to are acting barbarically…."

On the flip side, Benito Mussolini was dispatched in about the same level of dignity.

But your point is a fair one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:17 AM (isNL8)

87 On this anniversary of 9/11, we remember the terrorist attacks on this country.

But there is another historical event that occurred on this day that few ever remember. On this day exactly 50 years ago, Augusto Pinochet put an end to a nascent communist dictatorship in Chile.

Let us remember the good as well as the bad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:17 AM (t0OGg)

88 We did not have quote unquote TV but we did have a TV VCR combo of about 13".

I took a piece of Cat5 and made an antenna pinned up to a bulletin board near the coffee bar.

We could get ABC (I think) pretty good. I watched for about an hour and then went to get my daughter at school.

DFW was scary quiet. They even had planes land over at the AA Maintenance Airport near Texas Motor Speedway as they ran out of room.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 11, 2023 08:17 AM (BRHaw)

89
Still waiting for Muslims hanging from lamp posts in this country. I was told it was imminent!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 08:18 AM (MoZTd)

90 remember that day. I was listening to XM Radio, Fox and Friends and they starting discussing a commuter plane hitting the world trade, I didn't pay too much attention but was listening. Then someone mentioned that it wasn't a small plane and I yelled to my co-workers, something's going on in New York. We all filed into one of the offices that had TV and while we were watching the smoke from the first tower we saw the next plane come in. At that point, OMG that feeling I will never forget. Anger, rage and sadness. I will say I did thank God that Bush was in the white house than Al Gore however. Maybe I was wrong about that, not sure.
Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:10 AM (DBrN4)
******
Al Gore would have blamed it on global warming.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2023 08:18 AM (NpAcC)

91 I heard someone discussing it this morning.

They're abruptly ending these events because Joetato is admitting to crimes.

At a recent event he told everyone that he sold state secrets.

At this one he said he doesn't want to contain China (his bribes)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 11, 2023 08:16 AM (NYUSO)

'That's just Joe being Joe.'

Why, yes. Yes it is.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:18 AM (zZu0s)

92 Thank you Tonypete. Psalm 100 is a beautiful song.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 11, 2023 08:18 AM (45fpk)

93 Since David Hogg and Ted Lieu object to the insane Lujan edict in precisely the same words, it is obvious that the left has decided she moved too fast. They are throwing her to the dogs, and I predict she withdraws he edict very soon. Then, she'll be a "hero who tried" to the same left today tossing her away.

Remember: the left is relentless, they never stop trying.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2023 08:18 AM (c29e4)

94 Hadrian, I guess it was easier to elect them to Congress rather than hang them in the streets.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:19 AM (DBrN4)

95 Does anyone looking at the last year-plus of this war really think Russia is going to go storming to the Rhine?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 08:05 AM (MoZTd)

Concur. They could sail that tire burning contraption they call an "aircraft carrier", the Admiral Kuznetsov, up and down the English Channel spewing thick, black smoke, killing Mother Earth one prop rotation at a time, until the Euroweenies give up because of climate change and being unable to see or breathe. dlya Rodiny!

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2023 08:19 AM (xsBhv)

96 Can't get worked up about 9/11 services anymore. The terrorist attack was used to ramp up the surveillance state, increase govt power, keep American paranoid and compliant and impose massive security everywhere, all which is now being turned against us (with an exemption for illegals.) That is what we should be mourning.

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This.

I'm willing to acknowledge that it's very likely that no one with any type of official federal retirement plan was personally flying any of the planes. That's about it, though.

The PATRIOT Act was sitting there ready to go.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 11, 2023 08:19 AM (NYUSO)

97 "do you think she could lose her state in the primaries, "

If Trump is in the S.C. primary, she will lose.

About the only person that she would give a good run would be Tim Scott.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:19 AM (isNL8)

98 If you took away the TSA checks at the airports, could it happen again? Of course it could, however in 22 years the terrorists haven't found another way to kill us. No dirty bombs, bombing the Capitol/WH, mutated virus (oh wait, that was the heathen chinese) or whatever mayhem they could think of. Don't get me started on Richard Reid the shoe bomber. Were measures needed to prevent another 9/11, most likely. How about something less draconian. But 22 years of strip searches and scanning your shoes! Pure insanity. Now the TSA is a powerful unionized entity. It's never going away. And the terrorists one the fight by taking away our freedom.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 11, 2023 08:19 AM (2NHgQ)

99 >>Dad had woken my lazy ass up and gotten me out to the living room in between the first and second plane.

I was on the Expressway headed to Logan Airport to take the shuttle to LaGuardia on the morning of 9/11. I was speaking to my eastern regional manager on the phone as he was driving to the PATH train in New Jersey. He was taking the train to the city and we were going to meet there and have some business meetings. His train was supposed to drop him at the station under the WTC.

As we were talking he heard over the radio that a plane hit the WTC. We thought it was a traffic plane and we said we might be delayed a bit. I got to Logan and one of the restaurants opened early and was giving us free coffee as we watched the TV over the bar. Then every cop in MA along with the National Guard came into the terminal and said we had 5 minutes to leave or we would be detained and our cars impounded.

Surreal day.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2023 08:21 AM (ZLI7S)

100 The leaders will explore opportunities to promote the growth of a technology-focused and innovation-driven Vietnamese economy, expand our people-to-people ties through education exchanges and workforce development programs, combat climate change, and increase peace, prosperity, and stability in the region.
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Mutually contradictory goals. East Asia (and SE Asia as a part of it) is a zero-sum game, or at least it apes one. If Vietnam's economy grows meaningfully (it is), that will come out of China's economic opportunity. every penny of Vietnamese GDP growth is coming at the expense of China. Ditto various other countries.

If you want "stability in the region," as its own objective, you just smack down Vietnam and let China happily grow. This makes no sense as a pair of combined objectives, and nobody who pays even a small amount of attention will buy it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:21 AM (t0OGg)

101 Back after 9/11 my brother-in-law a very intelligent musician and business man who lived in New York City would visit my house with a button on his coat that said Bush blew up the towers. I never had him back in my house again and to this day I remember that and dislike him for it. Recently he moved out of the City to Connecticut and my husband asked if he finally came to his senses about liberals and he said yea a bit. What if my brother-in-law was right about Bush being involved or letting it happen to get the already drawn up Patriot Act get online and working?

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:22 AM (DBrN4)

102 9/11 was the Time of the Neocon… my didn’t they flourish??? National Review, Townhall, American Spectator. Carl Rove, Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg… all staunchly behind President Bush… and the Right, mostly, faithfully lined up behind them. And behind all of that, the Money Train rolled on…

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:22 AM (PCK5/)

103 70 I know that Kristi Noem isn't ideal as a VP pick but I believe Trump will pick her now after she endorsed him. I think that's why she endorsed him.
Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:13 AM (DBrN4)

I agree.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:22 AM (GFoyL)

104 98 But 22 years of strip searches and scanning your shoes! Pure insanity. Now the TSA is a powerful unionized entity. It's never going away. And the terrorists one the fight by taking away our freedom.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 11, 2023 08:19 AM (2NHgQ)


The Israelis are experts at security WITHOUT the failure theater of the TSA. Of course, the establishment of the TSA had zero to do with keeping us safe. It was about expanding the government and the security state. Win-win for them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:22 AM (x0n13)

105 If you are able to adjust your flag, I think it would be good idea.
Posted by: redridinghood

Yes, thank you - agreed.

Done.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 08:22 AM (IaTa3)

106 "Linus, I agree with you. I never saw how the Patriot Act could be turned against us by a marxist manchurian candidate like Barrack Obama. "

Same here.

I committed a very stupid mistake at that time.

My guiding principle has always bee..Never give yourself legal powers that the other political party can use against you if they are in power.

Yeh...I screwed that one up badly.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:23 AM (isNL8)

107 CHASER: Americans Overwhelmingly Support Age Limits For Elected Officials – Poll

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Well then, they should all be paying due attention to the ages of the people they vote for, right? Instead of reelecting them over and over and over and over...

It's pretty easy to find out the age of a candidate you plan to vote for. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2023 08:23 AM (mupln)

108 In the wake of 9/11/01, these questions are sadly more relevant than ever before, considering the law enforcement and national security collective bureaucracies' abject failure in protecting America on that horrible day. Worse, on their penchant to target the citizenry for opposing a criminal, illegitimate regime it helped install via the sabotaging of the previous president and the aiding and abetting in his overthrow.
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More relevant, but less open. It's more or less been made clear, at least in the cities and suburbs. This is still an open question in rural areas, but not so much elsewhere.

It is always thus in a tyranny.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:23 AM (t0OGg)

109 103 70 I know that Kristi Noem isn't ideal as a VP pick but I believe Trump will pick her now after she endorsed him. I think that's why she endorsed him.
Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:13 AM (DBrN4)

I agree.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:22 AM (GFoyL)

She caved big time on the tranny shit last year. There are better candidates out there.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:23 AM (x0n13)

110 98 I'm surprised TSA hasn't been armed. Metal detector goes hot. Blam, blam. Too big a bottle of hair product. Blam, blam. AK wrapped in a prayer rug. Damn, how did we miss that?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 11, 2023 08:24 AM (0EOe9)

111 won not one, dammit

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 11, 2023 08:24 AM (2NHgQ)

112 Biden's Vietnam trip is probably the best possible scenario for our president meeting a foreign leader: when there is a language barrier. The interpreter can smooth out the havering, or just say something completely different (but consistent with prior talking points or advisor opinions).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:24 AM (t0OGg)

113 If Trump is in the S.C. primary, she will lose.

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I can gladly say that I'm already relishing the chance to not vote for her here. It would be the humiliation she deserves.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2023 08:25 AM (mupln)

114 "Terrorists" aren't interested in attacking the US so long as the right people are running the country. There was a brief, four year window, but it closed in 2020, when these "terrorists" could have struck, but were occupied with removing the sitting president at the time.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2023 08:25 AM (Q4IgG)

115 She did JJ but wasn't there an issue with the wording that she did not like and it was fixed. I thought she signed something at least.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:26 AM (DBrN4)

116 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:26 AM (Zz0t1)

117 101 What if my brother-in-law was right about Bush being involved or letting it happen to get the already drawn up Patriot Act get online and working?
Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:22 AM (DBrN4)

That is tin foil hat territory. BUT, his not letting the crisis go to waste is a lead pipe cinch in what he and others did afterwards vis a vis ramping up the security state.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:26 AM (x0n13)

118 Hole E. Cow, J.J.! Atsa lotta scrolling. Thank you so much for the comprehensive news report.

Happy Monday, all. I'm trying to establish a new habit. Although I never remember my dreams, every morning when I wake up, a word or phrase that perfectly encapsulates some part of our current situation pops into my head. I'm going to try to remember to post them from now on.

This morning's word was "freaks".

Posted by: creeper at September 11, 2023 08:26 AM (cTCuP)

119 JJ I agree. Traveled to Israel this past May. They do it the right way.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 11, 2023 08:27 AM (2NHgQ)

120 102 9/11 was the Time of the Neocon… my didn’t they flourish??? National Review, Townhall, American Spectator. Carl Rove, Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg… all staunchly behind President Bush… and the Right, mostly, faithfully lined up behind them. And behind all of that, the Money Train rolled on…
Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:22 AM (PCK5/)

I am not even sure I would call them NeoCons. I think that was a nice term to try to describe it, but really what it was was statist grifter assholes who turned out to be the opposite of idealists. That the overlap for a lot of these guys and NT should tell you all you need to know.

How many of the 'conservatives' from BEFORE 9/11 have turned out to NOT be assholes?

...

Geez, that is a tough one. Ron Paul (asshole of a different sort?) ... Can I phone a friend? VDH? Rush?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:27 AM (zZu0s)

121 “No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute,” she retorted after being asked whether her order violated her oath of office to “uphold the Constitution.”


There's a Queensrÿche lyric for this....I'm sure of it.

And it FITS.

The Constitution IS absolute, you f*cking cunt.

*no umlaut required

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:27 AM (Zz0t1)

122 Of the three 'choices', Convert, Dhimmi, or Die, I choose none of the above. I will not kneel. I will fight.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2023 08:27 AM (Z1jJH)

123 I misread everything that went on after 9/11… my critical thinking ability went out the window and I was taken in by DC… that is on me.

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:27 AM (PCK5/)

124 Gawd, Nikki.

A RINO friend of mine trotted out that "Putin wants to march on Warsaw" line the other day. I told her she was completely nuts.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (N3zMI)

125 The Israelis are experts at security WITHOUT the failure theater of the TSA. Of course, the establishment of the TSA had zero to do with keeping us safe. It was about expanding the government and the security state. Win-win for them.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

That's because the Israelis profile folks in the airports.

Oh my! The horror!!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (IaTa3)

126 Gerber was not given any concrete reasons after being told that he was being banned from campus, other than his lack of “collegiality.” He was directed to sign a separation agreement.

This is very popular on colleges now. It is how the profs and admins get rid or people that are not marxist or racist enough.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (BRHaw)

127 With Biden allowing a massive influx of illegals into our country, unvetted, it's just a matter of time before we experience another 9/11.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (NpAcC)

128 ... The Israelis are experts at security WITHOUT the failure theater of the TSA. Of course, the establishment of the TSA had zero to do with keeping us safe. It was about expanding the government and the security state. Win-win for them.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:22 AM (x0n13)
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But they do all sorts of verboten things. They profile. They use judgement. They have extensive and effective training and routine testing of processes.

Can't be having anything like that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (t0OGg)

129 Ha! In before Joe Mannix!

I knew that at least one of us would commemorate The Totally Awesome 9/11.*

NOTE: if by some vicissitude of Fate, I ever end up as the American Augusto, it will be a national holiday when no mention is made of the late unpleasantness in NYC. Instead there will be parades with dancing girls, and floats showing La Moneda getting strafed, and a giant Allende with his brains erupting from his skull, and various depictions of other Communist Degringolades of History.

And there will be free hotdogs, pizza, bourbon and beer served from coast to coast, courtesy of Uncle YD's treasury (which is always heavily laden, thanks to his promulgation of the Public Corruption Tribunal, staffed by the finest rape dogs in all the land).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (0FoWg)

130 JJ, oh my BIL was a lefty of the marxist kind for decades, the fact that he's now questioning his side as we are ours is progress I think. I don't believe that anyone could actually get in to the World Trade area and wire a couple of buildings to implode without anyone knowing or having squealed by now is not that plausible.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:29 AM (DBrN4)

131 That is tin foil hat territory. BUT, his not letting the crisis go to waste is a lead pipe cinch in what he and others did afterwards vis a vis ramping up the security state.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:26 AM (x0n13)

Agreed. That he did not even pay lip service to trying to make the added security passive rather than the pointless stasi shit of the TSA speaks volumes. I am not saying necessarily that he saw dollar signs, but his gut reaction I think was statist- which means he and we were never really 'fellow travelers.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:29 AM (zZu0s)

132 Dear Nikki,

We don't need you anymore.

Love, Poland

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2023 08:29 AM (RIvkX)

133 114 "Terrorists" aren't interested in attacking the US so long as the right people are running the country.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2023 08:25 AM (Q4IgG)

They don't need to attack us. We're killing ourselves. It must be fairly obvious to all those not blinded by fanaticism.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:29 AM (GFoyL)

134 The heavy boot of regulation arrived soon after Biden. The two are closely linked.
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While this BehindTheBlack comment applied specifically to SpaceX and Starship tests, it also applies more broadly. Like to declining food supplies:

https://shorturl.at/htxDZ

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2023 08:29 AM (PJ7+l)

135 FDNY Radio Traffic from 9-11 via archive.org:
https://tinyurl.com/4k7ky4r8

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 11, 2023 08:30 AM (qPw5n)

136 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (0FoWg)
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I was in before you. You, of course, were far more vivid and poetic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:30 AM (t0OGg)

137 I lived close to LAX back on 9/11. All air traffic was halted for a few days. When you live near the airport you get used to the jet noise. The nights of 9/11 and 9/12 were eerily quiet. Unnerving really…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 08:30 AM (R/Mh9)

138 Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2023 08:31 AM (T4tVD)

139 During 9-11 NYC attack, while most other folx were videoing the towers, Andres Barilla filmed the crowd reactions:
youtube.com/watch?v=1MLLefZlfL8

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at September 11, 2023 08:31 AM (MvF+J)

140 And I fisluke people pushing the idea that 9/11 anniversaries should be a "day of service". I do serve at the local food pantry fairly often, and I don't need other people to tell me how I should remember 9/11.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 08:31 AM (Agdvg)

141 I was in Riyadh.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2023 08:32 AM (eG/xm)

142 I was in before you. You, of course, were far more vivid and poetic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:30 AM (t0OGg

Nope. See me @ 72.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2023 08:32 AM (0FoWg)

143 Yup, I live close enough to Bradley Int. Airport in CT, same thing. Nothing in the sky for days. Weird.

Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:32 AM (DBrN4)

144 140 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 08:31 AM (Agdvg)


What's a "fisluke?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:32 AM (x0n13)

145 Fisluke=dislike. Arrrgh!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 08:32 AM (Agdvg)

146 What's a "fisluke?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

$20. Same as in town.

(Sorry, I had to.)

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 08:33 AM (IaTa3)

147 143 Yup, I live close enough to Bradley Int. Airport in CT, same thing. Nothing in the sky for days. Weird.
Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:32 AM (DBrN4)

Reagan/National. But we did have fighter patrols going up and down the Potomac.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 11, 2023 08:33 AM (N3zMI)

148 "What's a "fisluke?""

$20.00, same as in town.*

* Obligatory

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:33 AM (isNL8)

149 122 Of the three 'choices', Convert, Dhimmi, or Die, I choose none of the above. I will not kneel. I will fight.
Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2023 08:27 AM (Z1jJH)


I saw Convert, Dhimmi and Die open for Hamilton, Joe Frank and Reynolds at the CoBo Arena in '75.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:35 AM (x0n13)

150 Today sucks.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:35 AM (Zz0t1)

151 What's a "fisluke?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:32 AM (x0n13)

LOL. Sounds like some Scandi thing related to that horrible fish thing people sometimes mention here

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 08:35 AM (Agdvg)

152 "John Zogby noted that minorities, especially blacks and Hispanics, are abandoning Biden and that that is a red warning flag"

It's the D party, not just Biden. This will affect turnout, which is the critical, but often ignored, variable. Developing ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2023 08:35 AM (K6vwr)

153 145 Fisluke=dislike. Arrrgh!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 08:32 AM (Agdvg)


I kind of like fisluke. Sounds Lithuanian.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:35 AM (x0n13)

154 The Federalist article on the Kardashian pregnancy skirts a point in a fairly important way. I strongly - very strongly - suspect that an earlier draft of the article was probably better but was toned down by the editors.

This is the passage:
Nearly 3 percent of babies born in the U.S. gestated with “a complex birth defect,” some of which are potentially life-threatening. Abortion activists all over the country believe that parents who receive scary diagnoses for their preborn children should have the choice to put those babies to death.

This is not true. Abortion activists do not think that the parents should have the choice to abort those babies. Abortion activists think that mothers should *make* the choice to abort those babies.

That's a fairly significant difference.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:36 AM (t0OGg)

155
"If it saves even one life ..."

Fine. Enact an outright and absolute ban on "top" and "bottom" surgery for minors under the age of 18.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2023 08:36 AM (xG4kz)

156 I lived close to LAX back on 9/11. All air traffic was halted for a few days. When you live near the airport you get used to the jet noise. The nights of 9/11 and 9/12 were eerily quiet. Unnerving really…

I lived on the South Shore of MA during 9/11. We were on the flight path to Logan but the planes were still pretty high at that point. Every night when I would take the dog out for the final walk I would watch the planes go over.

For a couple days the sky was empty other than stars. And then on the third night a fighter jet from the base on Cape Cod went screaming overhead so low it looked like I could almost touch it. That was very unnerving.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2023 08:36 AM (ZLI7S)

157 152 "John Zogby noted that minorities, especially blacks and Hispanics, are abandoning Biden and that that is a red warning flag"

It's the D party, not just Biden. This will affect turnout, which is the critical, but often ignored, variable. Developing ...
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2023 08:35 AM (K6vwr)


The only black turnout the D's are concerned about are the few thousand who crank out and count all the counterfeit ballots.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:36 AM (x0n13)

158 "What's a "fisluke?""

$20.00, same as in town.*

* Obligatory
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

thirty bucks now. Thanks brandon !

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2023 08:36 AM (T4tVD)

159 Instead of employing Trump's stratagery of select strikes and using special forces to target terrorists, the dumbf*ck Bush had to go full-on war. My God, the waste.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (GFoyL)

160 Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley said during an interview over the weekend that Republicans should be in favor of sending additional support to Ukraine in its war against Russia, arguing that it only constituted a small portion of the U.S. defense budget. . .

--

Heard "Why are Pence and Nikki Haley even bothering?" discussed and it makes a lot of sense.

The GOPe is waiting on the Trump vs Desantis wars to end, and after Desantis is beaten then they'll abandon Trump after they help the (D)s get at least one charge to stick.

No Trump, no Desantis, and it opens up the field for Pence/Haley.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - To cheat with DeSantis they'll have to face themselves and admit they're soviet at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (CU4Di)

161 I know that my secular Crisis in Faith (in DC) started around 2006… on a bright note, in strengthened my reliance on God…

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (PCK5/)

162 I swear to God, I am just about through being hopeful.

Posted by: Clear-Eyed Killer at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (ln5wD)

163 Had to yell at my dad yesterday. He told me to shut the fuck up. I responded accordingly.

He's pissed off we won't let him drive. Last time he did drive, he was yelling at stop lights for turning yellow as he approached. That was a year ago.

We're doing him a favor. He hates for it. Sad.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (Zz0t1)

164 Has the NM gov come out with a "I didn't say what I very clearly said" clarification yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (wsSEe)

165 120 102 9/11 was the Time of the Neocon… my didn’t they flourish??? National Review, Townhall, American Spectator. Carl Rove, Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg… all staunchly behind President Bush… and the Right, mostly, faithfully lined up behind them. And behind all of that, the Money Train rolled on…Posted by: tubal

How many of the 'conservatives' from BEFORE 9/11 have turned out to NOT be assholes?
...
Geez, that is a tough one. Ron Paul (asshole of a different sort?) ... Can I phone a friend? VDH? Rush? Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Result was because the Uniparty used to be about anti communism and when it fell, they had to have new targets and that was to Americanize the world. Imperialism more or less via globalism.

Posted by: whig at September 11, 2023 08:38 AM (PZr1U)

166 147 143 Yup, I live close enough to Bradley Int. Airport in CT, same thing. Nothing in the sky for days. Weird.
Posted by: Jaimo at September 11, 2023 08:32 AM (DBrN4)

Reagan/National. But we did have fighter patrols going up and down the Potomac.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 11, 2023 08:33 AM (N3zMI)

I live 2 miles from DFW and it was scary quiet.
Then a F16 or F18 would scream by and scare the shit out of you.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 11, 2023 08:38 AM (BRHaw)

167 What's a "fisluke?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

LOL. Sounds like some Scandi thing related to that horrible fish thing people sometimes mention here
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

"I gave my love a fisluke
That had no stone
I gave my love a fisluke
That had no bone. . . "


Hmmm, needs work. . . .
-- Author unknown

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 08:38 AM (IaTa3)

168
"If it saves even one life ..."

Fine. Enact an outright and absolute ban on "top" and "bottom" surgery for minors under the age of 18.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)


... and while you are at it, press charges for child abuse and endangerment against the parents or guardians that acquiesce to, if not foster, such irreversible actions on persons too young to give their informed legal consent.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2023 08:38 AM (xG4kz)

169 Yelling at red lights isn't a problem.
When they yell back, is.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 11, 2023 08:38 AM (wsSEe)

170 open for Hamilton, Joe Frank and Reynolds

Is that 3 guys or four ?

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2023 08:38 AM (T4tVD)

171 It's a day to reflect on how that was the beginning of the end.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (eG/xm)

172 So, how many Tweets (X-s ?) have there been claiming the Moroccan earthquake was due to Global Warming ?

Posted by: SMOD at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (RHGPo)

173 The Bush family trusts Ron DeSantis. So should you.

Vote Kasich.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (Zz0t1)

174 154 Abortion activists do not think that the parents should have the choice to abort those babies. Abortion activists think that mothers should *make* the choice to abort those babies.

That's a fairly significant difference.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:36 AM (t0OGg)

"T-4 you, T-4 me . . ."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (x0n13)

175 911 stuff: am I the only one who has difficulty understanding how an airliner hit the Pentagon, and only punched a (relatively) small hole in one side of the building? It just seems impossible. Like watching the Zapruder film and believing Kennedy was shot from the rear.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (7Fj9P)

176 Is there anything in NV law that addresses the involuntary removal of a Governor from Office?


Someone might wanna research that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (isNL8)

177 What I remember from 9/11 is not just the attack on WTC, but the Queen having Buckingham Palace play our national anthem later in the day. That was a wonderful gesture on her part.

Posted by: dantesed at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (88xKn)

178 159 Instead of employing Trump's stratagery of select strikes and using special forces to target terrorists, the dumbf*ck Bush had to go full-on war. My God, the waste.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (GFoyL)


There was a lot of money to be made… like now..

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (PCK5/)

179 164 Has the NM gov come out with a "I didn't say what I very clearly said" clarification yet?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (wsSEe)

Nah, she's of the new breed. Double-down, and you'll take it and like it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (GFoyL)

180 170 open for Hamilton, Joe Frank and Reynolds

Is that 3 guys or four ?
Posted by: JT at September 11, 2023 08:38 AM (T4tVD)

48 years later and I still don't know.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (x0n13)

181 He's pissed off we won't let him drive. Last time he did drive, he was yelling at stop lights for turning yellow as he approached. That was a year ago.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (Zz0t1)

Wait, doesn't everybody do that?!?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (Angsy)

182 Targeting Ken Paxton: Is Washington's Hand Shaping Texas' Political Landscape?

100% Bush family BS

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (BRHaw)

183 My brain is completely f*cked today, so I won't be posting much......

Your loss, I'm sure.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:40 AM (Zz0t1)

184 I lived close to LAX back on 9/11. All air traffic was halted for a few days. When you live near the airport you get used to the jet noise. The nights of 9/11 and 9/12 were eerily quiet. Unnerving really…


I was on the 20th fllor of our building looking west. Ours was the tallest when looking in that direction. We can see the landing patterns for Love Field AND DFW airports. Watching the planes stacked and coming in like carrier planes just one right after another was creepy. Then nothing. Not a thing in the sky. Super creepy.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2023 08:40 AM (SEDrX)

185 oh my dear good lord, that vietnam press conference was real? not a joke, not the Babylon Bee; he really said all that?

G'mornin' anyway, Horde!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 11, 2023 08:40 AM (YNbPJ)

186 Whatever happened to Shivanthi Sathanandan... the woman who initially wanted to defund/disband the police and claimed to have been violently carjacked? Took a selfie right after the attack with what looked like fake blood on her face.

Haven't seen a follow up....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2023 08:40 AM (Q4IgG)

187 " not letting the crisis go to waste is a lead pipe cinch in what he and others did afterwards vis a vis ramping up the security state."

But even with all the King's horses and all the King's men, DHS still can't secure our border.

ps. Bush pulled the Iraq war to keep the Deep State happy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2023 08:40 AM (K6vwr)

188 Not the Bee @Not_the_Bee

“There is no such thing as a state public health emergency exception to the U.S. Constitution.”

Mark this as the first time we’ve ever quoted David Hogg without a rebuttal.


David Hogg @davidhogg111

I support gun safety but there is no such thing as a state public health emergency exception to the U.S. Constitution.

Posted by: SMOD at September 11, 2023 08:40 AM (RHGPo)

189 I was in the AF, in a flying unit, watching the planes hit on the CQ tv.
Old-Head CMSGT comment: Our lives are about to be on hold for a few years.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 11, 2023 08:40 AM (wsSEe)

190 Instead of employing Trump's stratagery of select strikes and using special forces to target terrorists, the dumbf*ck Bush had to go full-on war. My God, the waste.
Posted by: Ordinary American

--

They were moving away from trading in U.S. dollars. Same reason with Libya and why Ghaddafi had to be assassinated even though he had turned around and started cooperating with everyone after the Iraq stupidity.

Maintaining our dollar has been what all of our recent wars have been about.

BRICS is going to get interesting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - To cheat with DeSantis they'll have to face themselves and admit they're soviet at September 11, 2023 08:40 AM (CU4Di)

191 Instead of employing Trump's stratagery of select strikes and using special forces to target terrorists, the dumbf*ck Bush had to go full-on war. My God, the waste.
Posted by: Ordinary American

And, we didn't necessarily go after the terrorists and $$$ responsible. The fix was in.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2023 08:41 AM (IaTa3)

192 159 Instead of employing Trump's stratagery of select strikes and using special forces to target terrorists, the dumbf*ck Bush had to go full-on war. My God, the waste.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (GFoyL)


The war on "terror" was a war with no enemy. Terror is not a people or nation. It's a tactic.

And one of the first things out of Dubai's cake-hole was a declaration that we are not at war with Islam and that it was a religion of peace.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:41 AM (x0n13)

193 Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:37 AM (PCK5/

Praise the Lord! There is a reflection I posted in the tech thread about someone who was in NYC on 9/11 and how the experience changed her orientation and brought her back to her Christian faith.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 08:41 AM (Agdvg)

194 Book I am reading Barack Obama's True Legacy is squarely putting the Muslims on the path to get a Nuclear bomb, and Barky 2.0 administration is continuing this Legacy

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2023 08:42 AM (T6uIK)

195 163 - Sorry about that, Sponge. That can’t be easy

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 08:42 AM (R/Mh9)

196 @175 that's not what happened. Things that don't happen are indeed hard to believe.

Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2023 08:43 AM (dWjpk)

197 John Eastman's trials are Red Guard actions, pure and simple.

Amazingly, no one notices these trials, or Peter Navarro's trial.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2023 08:43 AM (/hNpg)

198 Anyone else old enough to remember the U.S. government allowing the bin Laden family to leave the U.S. after the attack, if not aiding them in their departure?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - To cheat with DeSantis they'll have to face themselves and admit they're soviet at September 11, 2023 08:43 AM (CU4Di)

199 “We know that Russia has said, once they take Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next

Was this in a vision?

... and then you’re looking at a full-on war,” she continued.

But somehow Leviathan pumping tens to hundreds of billions more into Ukraine, by gifting them cluster and depleted uranium munitions, by sending over advanced weaponry with deep country penetration, by talking about tactical nukes, this is somehow not the direct course to "full-on war"?

“What we’re trying to do is prevent war. That’s a pretty good return on investment to prevent war.”

You have war Right Now. Anyone with a functioning brain can tell that Leviathan is actively seeking global nuclear war.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2023 08:43 AM (p8A+W)

200 "What's a "fisluke?""


***

What weird fish dish will the Norwegians think of next...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 11, 2023 08:44 AM (ZV+pB)

201 I remember when the muzzies rammed those planes into the WTC. I was at some office getting business done when some hysterical bint came running in and was yelling to turn on the TV. She was rambling and bambling and crying like a child would do. I told her to buck up as things will never be the same again.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2023 08:44 AM (xsBhv)

202 195 163 - Sorry about that, Sponge. That can’t be easy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 08:42 AM (R/Mh9)

The los of driving privilege is a brutal thing for the old… freedom and independence gone, and the real sense of loss..

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:44 AM (PCK5/)

203
No Trump, no Desantis, and it opens up the field for Pence/Haley.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - To cheat with DeSantis they'll have to face themselves and admit they're soviet


Neither of whom would receive my vote in the general election, for reasons that begin with both of them being eager shovelers of money into the Ukraine cesspool.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2023 08:45 AM (xG4kz)

204 The GOPe is waiting on the Trump vs Desantis wars to end, and after Desantis is beaten then they'll abandon Trump after they help the (D)s get at least one charge to stick.

No Trump, no Desantis, and it opens up the field for Pence/Haley.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Personally, I think the Uniparty is falling apart despite its seeming omnipotence. The Dems elites have backed themselves into the corner of proposing idiocies like what is a woman, we must kill nature to preserve it greenie dom, impoverishment and death of the masses, etc. The weak sister uniparty GOPe can't say that shit out loud despite whale donors agreeing.

So you get the silence to Trump's trumped up legal troubles even though the GA idiot Grand Jury proposed lots more indictments. You get silence on the Biden admin's idiotic and illegal policies. And so on. Waiting on Pence or Haley to save their bacon is just what the GOPe wants but it will in fact destroy the party which hastens the discontinuity coming.

Posted by: whig at September 11, 2023 08:45 AM (PZr1U)

205 The Fis-Luke posts are cracking me up. For the first time ever, thank you autocucumber?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 08:45 AM (R/Mh9)

206 @175. The Pentagon is solid stone. The Twin Towers were built like a kid's erector set.

IOn dense fog, a B-25 bomber (it''s the box that the B-17 came in) flew into the Empire State Building in 1945. The plane crumpled with little damage to the building.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2023 08:45 AM (K6vwr)

207 The Morocco earthquake - like the Bam earthquake in Iran about 20 years ago - underscores just how much engineering makes a difference.

Assuming that the estimates are somewhere close to reality, the death toll from the Morocco quake is at least 30x higher that the death toll from the equivalent-intensity Loma Prieta earthquake in California - and the CA quake happened almost 35 years earlier.

The Bam earthquake's death toll was at least 530x higher than Loma Prieta, and the Bam quake was lower intensity and happened almost 15 years later.

If you're going to be in an earthquake, you are almost incalculably better off riding it out in a place with both engineering and the money to implement it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:46 AM (t0OGg)

208 Flight 93 turned to go SE around Cleveland. My brother had to unass his office. They evacuated every tall building building in downtown Pittsburgh. Brother said the fear was palpable.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2023 08:46 AM (eG/xm)

209 Good morning.

The Kardashian fetal surgery story, which could have prompted a useful discussion of the ethics, cost/benefit considerations and allocation of resources, instead was woefully devoid of actual facts and replete with gross mis-assumptions.

E.g. - the implication that maternal-fetal medicine specialists (aka high-risk OB) are not recommending abortion for non-life-threatening conditions is dubious. I have had first-hand experience with MFM docs recommending abortion for heart conditions prior to any consultation with a cardiologist regarding post-natal treatment options and mortality risk.

Instead the article is largely Kardashianoid emo-nonsense.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 11, 2023 08:46 AM (991eG)

210 Bush knew 9-11 was going to happen. He didn't plan it, but he was briefed and signed off on it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 11, 2023 08:46 AM (wsSEe)

211 163 - Sorry about that, Sponge. That can’t be easy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 08:42 AM (R/Mh9)



It's not.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:46 AM (Zz0t1)

212 "This morning's word was "freaks".
Posted by: creeper"

The left behinds
Of the Great Society

Posted by: Hungry Freaks Daddy at September 11, 2023 08:46 AM (vFG9F)

213 "I'm thankful that the Youngkin administration gave me an off-ramp to these charges that never should have happened," Smith told The Daily Wire. "It's kind of bittersweet, because I really looked forward to winning this in court. But unfortunately, our justice system is so screwed up right now that I didn't feel that I could potentially get a fair shot in court."
=================
Another case of lawfare from the left.

Every one of these legal attacks should be responded to in kind, with disbarment and prosecutions. "Right back at you" is the only response they will remember.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2023 08:46 AM (/hNpg)

214 The important thing to remember is that while the TSA has infringed our freedoms, cost us billions in tax dollars, and acts like mall cops with a dose of power, they have, in 20+ years, almost stopped one terrorist attack.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 11, 2023 08:46 AM (lTGtQ)

215 181 I yell at traffic lights all the time. Almost as much as I a yell at other drivers.

Traffic lights are asshoe.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2023 08:47 AM (xTRSc)

216 CBS Mornings
@CBSMornings

A new CBS News poll finds 75% of Americans believe Pres. Biden is being too easy on China.

It comes after the president’s trip to India for the G20 summit — and a meeting with Vietnam officials.

https://tinyurl.com/mrxmvfjm

Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2023 08:47 AM (NpAcC)

217 The B25 was not flying 550MPH either.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 11, 2023 08:48 AM (wsSEe)

218 Aging represents a continuous loss of freedoms. I've seen it and each time there are negative health outcomes.

Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2023 08:48 AM (dWjpk)

219 So, umm, how many Vice Chairwomen does the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party need?

Posted by: Head scratcher at September 11, 2023 08:48 AM (NBVIP)

220 48 years later and I still don't know.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM (x0n13)

3.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (xsBhv)

221
The los of driving privilege is a brutal thing for the old… freedom and independence gone, and the real sense of loss..
Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:44 AM (PCK5/)



FiL was in an accident pulling in front of someone on a 70 mph stretch of road in front of his house at 2pm on a sunny day. We won't get him another vehicle. That was easier than telling my dad that the 2 functional cars he has, he can't drive. His brain is so fubar, he didn't really seem to understand when I told him I don't want him to kill himself, his wife or some unsuspecting family.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (Zz0t1)

222 OUTSTANDING monologue, sir! Spot on about Haley.

"We've devolved into the worst form of navel-gazing and used the catastrophe to ramp up a bureaucracy that failed in protecting our national security in the first place. A bureaucracy that now considers the American people and their way of life to be the number one threat to national security. Of course, that nation is not America, despite occupying the same physical space. For those that need a reminder, that wasn't the leftists who did that. It was George W. Bush and the so-called neo-cons."

Yep, check out Mike Benz' analyses on the Northeastern(Yankees) and Permian(cowboys). The Bush, Clinton, Obama, and Cheney families are evil.

GOD BLESS DONALD TRUMP AND DAMN MOST OF THE REST.

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (klw0w)

223 CBS "news." That's cute.

Posted by: Easter Bunny at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (NBVIP)

224 And one of the first things out of Dubai's cake-hole was a declaration that we are not at war with Islam and that it was a religion of peace.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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The fingerprints of a faction of the Saudi government doing this were all over the place.
The Bushes were in the Saudi pockets essentially and they bought off Bill Clinton. Bush viewed imports of Saudi oil as an imperative instead of pushing domestic oil industry.

Global empires need those large transfers of dollars overseas so that everyone useful in the empire got their skim of the profits.

Posted by: whig at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (PZr1U)

225 @217 The 9/11 jets had slowed down considerably from cruising speed. The benefits of flight training. They skipped the part about how to land.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (K6vwr)

226 The mission of the TSA inspectors at the airports is NOT to stop terrorists that's not an easy metric.

It is to keep "contraband" which is a constantly evolving list off of aircraft.

Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (dWjpk)

227 "Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone else, for each one should carry their own load. "

Galatians 6:4-5

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2023 08:50 AM (ij5RJ)

228 192 Dubai’s cake-hole


Dubai’s cakes are fantastic. Much better than Abu Dhabi’s.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2023 08:51 AM (xTRSc)

229 Nearly 3 percent of babies born in the U.S. gestated with “a complex birth defect,” some of which are potentially life-threatening. Abortion activists all over the country believe that parents who receive scary diagnoses for their preborn children should have the choice to put those babies to death.

That... is an interesting change in wording. These fuckers have usually couched their murder (state sanctioned or no, justified or no) in terms of NOT referring to the child as a baby, child or a human being. They have also usually used 'terminate the pregnancy' rather than the rather bold (but correct) 'to put those babies to death.'

Is that a direct quote, Joe? Because... well that's bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (zZu0s)

230 221
The los of driving privilege is a brutal thing for the old… freedom and independence gone, and the real sense of loss..
Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:44 AM (PCK5/)


FiL was in an accident pulling in front of someone on a 70 mph stretch of road in front of his house at 2pm on a sunny day. We won't get him another vehicle. That was easier than telling my dad that the 2 functional cars he has, he can't drive. His brain is so fubar, he didn't really seem to understand when I told him I don't want him to kill himself, his wife or some unsuspecting family.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (Zz0t1)

I know. I understand… Had to do that with my father-in- law… doing the right thing like you are doing comes with a heavy price for everyone involved.. God Bless you for doing it…

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (PCK5/)

231
It is to keep "contraband" which is a constantly evolving list off of aircraft.
Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (dWjpk)


Jolanda Reeves of the TSA was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for her heroic apprehension of a 16 oz. shampoo bottle.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (MoZTd)

232 It’s unimportant in the grand scheme of things but I really enjoyed watching Novak Djokovic (the man who refused the covid “vax” win the US Open, his 24th major victory. And the way he won… it was a brutally physical match with Daniil Medvedev with long rallies and constant running and stretching; he won in straight sets but it was much closer than the score might suggest. The 36-year-old is the oldest ever to win the tournament. They thought this physical specimen needed the vax???

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (R/Mh9)

233 Does anyone else on the East Coast remember in the days following 9/11, there were reports in the newspapers about muzzies celebrating on rooftops?
Photos, even.

Now we are being told, "Nah. That NEVER happened!"

Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J Trump is our duly elected president at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (l0Cy4)

234 227 "Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone else, for each one should carry their own load. "

Galatians 6:4-5
Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2023 08:50 AM (ij5RJ)

'My self opinion is determined by fiat- not consensus.'
-Dennis Miller, noted philosopher

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (zZu0s)

235 The mission of the TSA inspectors at the airports is NOT to stop terrorists that's not an easy metric.

It is to keep "contraband" which is a constantly evolving list off of aircraft.
Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2023 08:49 AM (dWjpk)
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I was in an airport that had pictures of firearms in little frames attached to the stanchions in the security line. It would be a picture of a disassembled weapon and a caption like "Officer Jones stopped this GUN from getting through security on July 19, 2021."

Like the gun was waltzing through security of its own accord. It's the ultimate expression of the "deadly SUV" reporting phenomenon.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:53 AM (t0OGg)

236
This morning's word was "freaks".
Posted by: creeper at September 11, 2023 08:26 AM (cTCuP)



You asked for it........


https://youtu.be/7P6N8r1kUTM

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:53 AM (Zz0t1)

237 The los of driving privilege is a brutal thing for the old… freedom and independence gone, and the real sense of loss..
Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:44 AM (PCK5/)


FiL was in an accident pulling in front of someone on a 70 mph stretch of road in front of his house at 2pm on a sunny day. We won't get him another vehicle. That was easier than telling my dad that the 2 functional cars he has, he can't drive. His brain is so fubar, he didn't really seem to understand when I told him I don't want him to kill himself, his wife or some unsuspecting family.
Posted by: Sponge
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I totally agree. One of my parents has dementia and is in memory care. Still insists vigorously at time that driving was no problem. The reality is that she literally could not understand or remember where she was or how she got there. Then also which was the brake or the accelerator.

Posted by: whig at September 11, 2023 08:53 AM (PZr1U)

238 Not so happy Monday.
Will never forget 9/11.

>>“I think that we need to continue giving them equipment and ammunition with our allies to win,” she said, adding that she did not want to put troops on the ground.

Gosh, she's now talking about troops on the ground. Yeah, yeah, she said she doesn't want to -- but that she's even declaring that signals that others do, that the discussion is already happening. These evil people just love sending other peoples' sons off to forever wars in which the US has no stake, don't they?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 08:53 AM (izj35)

239 I life up near Camp David and after 9/11 I heard constant noise from jets and helicopters. It was surreal

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 11, 2023 08:53 AM (ZV+pB)

240 Is that a direct quote, Joe? Because... well that's bad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (zZu0s)
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Direct quote from an article, not from an activist.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:53 AM (t0OGg)

241 I know. I understand… Had to do that with my father-in- law… doing the right thing like you are doing comes with a heavy price for everyone involved.. God Bless you for doing it…
Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (PCK5/)



🙏

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:54 AM (Zz0t1)

242
'My self opinion is determined by fiat- not consensus.'
-Dennis Miller, noted philosopher
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (zZu0s)
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He drives really slow in the ultra-fast lane.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 11, 2023 08:55 AM (ScR16)

243 >>Does anyone else on the East Coast remember in the days following 9/11, there were reports in the newspapers about muzzies celebrating on rooftops?
Photos, even.


Yes, it happened.
Don't let them rewrite history.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 08:55 AM (izj35)

244 I was there in NYC 9-11. Obviously survived. My story isn't important. The lives lost that day, and in the following years on the battlefield are.

Never forget.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2023 08:55 AM (ij5RJ)

245 Direct quote from an article, not from an activist.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:53 AM (t0OGg)

Ahhh. Well, that explains the difference in language. Likely a Pro-life source/author.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 08:55 AM (zZu0s)

246 Does anyone else on the East Coast remember in the days following 9/11, there were reports in the newspapers about muzzies celebrating on rooftops?
Photos, even.
Now we are being told, "Nah. That NEVER happened!"
Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J Trump is our duly elected president at September 11, 2023 08:52 AM (l0Cy4)

Yup...and a few short years later the smooth brained lined up and voted in Barack Hussein Obongo as President. The son of a commie whore and an african layabout. Most Americans are dumb as a stump.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2023 08:55 AM (xsBhv)

247 Ha! In before Joe Mannix!

I knew that at least one of us would commemorate The Totally Awesome 9/11.*

NOTE: if by some vicissitude of Fate, I ever end up as the American Augusto, it will be a national holiday when no mention is made of the late unpleasantness in NYC. Instead there will be parades with dancing girls, and floats showing La Moneda getting strafed, and a giant Allende with his brains erupting from his skull, and various depictions of other Communist Degringolades of History.
...
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (0FoWg)
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Yeah, nope.
43 Today is also the 50th anniversary of the salvation of Chile's democracy.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2023 05:35 AM (RIvkX)

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2023 08:55 AM (RIvkX)

248 Still waiting for Muslims hanging from lamp posts in this country. I was told it was imminent!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

"Best we can do is 10,000 brand new mosques."

-- Pawn Stars Guys

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 11, 2023 08:55 AM (kjOVp)

249 I think I post something about this man every year. Rick Rescorla- the man originally born in England who was a Vietnam Vet and became head of security for Morgan Stanley in the WTC and saved lives there before he died:

https://tinyurl.com/2c57tx3d

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 08:56 AM (Agdvg)

250 A good story is how the people of Gander N.F. took in stranded travelers.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 11, 2023 08:56 AM (0EOe9)

251 Gosh, she's now talking about troops on the ground. Yeah, yeah, she said she doesn't want to -- but that she's even declaring that signals that others do, that the discussion is already happening. These evil people just love sending other peoples' sons off to forever wars in which the US has no stake, don't they?
Posted by: Lizzy


But the Pubbies are the war mongerers.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2023 08:56 AM (SEDrX)

252 "Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone else, for each one should carry their own load. "

Galatians 6:4-5
Posted by: Marcus T

Thanks Marcus !

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2023 08:57 AM (T4tVD)

253 224 And one of the first things out of Dubai's cake-hole was a declaration that we are not at war with Islam and that it was a religion of peace.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

That was Karen Hughes, the stupidest bint in the depthless well of clueless and corrupt and treacherous GOP advisers and hangers-on.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 08:57 AM (GFoyL)

254 >>I life up near Camp David and after 9/11 I heard constant noise from jets and helicopters. It was surreal


Yup. I was in N. VA and could see them airlifting wounded from the Pentagon along with a heck of a lot of first responder vehicles buzzing around. Then silence for months -- no flights into Reagan National Airport.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 08:57 AM (izj35)

255 I did take my dad's P89 yesterday.

I'm intrigued to shoot it. It's quite a big gun for a 9mm.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 08:57 AM (Zz0t1)

256 Amen JT. Amen.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2023 08:58 AM (ij5RJ)

257 A good story is how the people of Gander N.F. took in stranded travelers.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 11, 2023 08:56 AM (0EOe9)
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9/11 underscored just how special the US/Canadian special relationship was. Canada had our backs 100%, and barely mentioned - or didn't mentioned - all that it did. Gander was one example of that.

It's tragic for Canada that they continue to go the same direction as us - but that doesn't change the history.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:58 AM (t0OGg)

258 I think WTC7 collapsing perfectly from burning office furniture without - per the federal government - any additional fuel or significant impact was their only real screw up that day.*

https://tinyurl.com/ydv9ng6g

I always figured that's where Flight 93 was supposed to go.





* Other than the BBC reporting on the collapse too soon, but that was a different type of logistics. The cool part was they even called the shot: "the building had been weakened"

Youtube full clip:

https://tinyurl.com/3twmf8wv

Posted by: Moron Robbie found the recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at September 11, 2023 08:59 AM (f6/GE)

259 249 I think I post something about this man every year. Rick Rescorla- the man originally born in England who was a Vietnam Vet and became head of security for Morgan Stanley in the WTC and saved lives there before he died:

https://tinyurl.com/2c57tx3d
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 08:56 AM (Agdvg)


Fenelon - thanks for sharing that. This is another about him. It is from the New Yorker, but is actually well written.

https://tinyurl.com/25euc27j

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2023 09:00 AM (N39Ws)

260 Peace is no good if it means a truce with evil

Posted by: SMOD at September 11, 2023 09:00 AM (RHGPo)

261 I did take my dad's P89 yesterday.

I'm intrigued to shoot it. It's quite a big gun for a 9mm.

Posted by: Sponge

--

I've said it many times, but I've got much more prestigious pistols, and much more expensive pistols, and many other pistols that would impress people. But if I needed something in a SHTF situation where I would never return to my home and could only grab one gun, that is the one in my safe that I would get without a second though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie found the recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at September 11, 2023 09:01 AM (f6/GE)

262 And about a 68 year old NYC Fire Deparment p
Chaplain and priest
who died attempting to minister to others that day:

https://tinyurl.com/5k9cfktz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 09:01 AM (Agdvg)

263 259 There is a picture of a trooper on the dust jacket of the book "We Were Soldiers". It's Rick Rescorla.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 11, 2023 09:01 AM (0EOe9)

264 "The freedom that the 9/11 hijackers hated is slipping away from us with terrifying speed."

With the active, eager participation of both the left and the right, abetted by the slovenly ignorance, apathy and foolishness of over 80% of the 'American' people, whose only connection to 9/11 is watching some stupid, bathetic MFM propaganda 'documentary' about that day.

As far as I am concerned, 9/11 is simply another day. We were betrayed by our own government, allowed the left to pretend they were sad until such time (even before the month ended!) as they could go back to blaming America for the entire attack.

The loathsome Chrissie Hynde yelled, "Hit us again! We deserve it!" I guarantee you a vast majority of Americans feel that way right now.

I respect and honor the heroes who gave their lives that day. I damn the cowards who have turned it into a self-flagellating weepfest for imagined sins.

And that's all for me today (which I am sure you are all glad for).

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2023 09:02 AM (AW0uW)

265 > I did take my dad's P89 yesterday.

I'm intrigued to shoot it. It's quite a big gun for a 9mm.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
___________

I have one of those... stainless. When you're out of ammo it can be used as a club.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2023 09:02 AM (Q4IgG)

266 --

I've said it many times, but I've got much more prestigious pistols, and much more expensive pistols, and many other pistols that would impress people. But if I needed something in a SHTF situation where I would never return to my home and could only grab one gun, that is the one in my safe that I would get without a second though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie found the recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at September 11, 2023 09:01 AM (f6/GE)



I think my brother and I are mistaken and the 30 round mag is for this gun, not the Smith and Wesson we thought it was for. I'll be taking that later this week.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:02 AM (Zz0t1)

267
Dubya's. Not Dubai's.

Pfft.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 09:02 AM (x0n13)

268 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2023 09:00 AM (N39Ws)

Thx for the link.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 09:03 AM (Agdvg)

269 Dubya's. Not Dubai's.

Pfft.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 09:02 AM (x0n13)
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Eh. Six of one, half-dozen of the other...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 09:03 AM (t0OGg)

270 Dubya's. Not Dubai's.

Pfft.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 09:02 AM (x0n13)
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And here I thought you were being cleverly sarcastic.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 11, 2023 09:04 AM (ScR16)

271 Morning Horde, thx as always for the Morning Report JJ. Biden's babbling his way through a press conference in Vietnam has got to give the rest of the world pause . Our allies have to realize the US has no leadership , but so do our adversaries. Him getting cutoff by his staff made things even worse. No way he's the candidate in 11/24

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2023 09:04 AM (/7iym)

272 265 P series Rugers, starting with the P85 are the AKs of handguns. You have a 99.9% chance it's going to work first time, every time. And if you have to do a little pistol whippin', none better.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 11, 2023 09:04 AM (0EOe9)

273 And that's all for me today (which I am sure you are all glad for).
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2023 09:02 AM (AW0uW)

Nah. You're fine. The way this shit has developed is worth more than a few recriminations.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:04 AM (zZu0s)

274 On this somber day, we should remember those lost. Spouses were kissed, children hugged for the last time. Remember them.

But we must also look at some of the extraordinary acts by many on this day as well. Rescorla certainly is one of them. Those firefighters were went into the buildings knowing they wouldn't come out alive are others. The men on Flight 93 who manned up and took care of business.

Remember them. Draw inspiration from them. And pray that if the day ever comes where we are faced with such adversity we too have the cajones to do what needs to be done.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2023 09:05 AM (N39Ws)

275 Just wondering, but how many Rogue Islanders are here?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 11, 2023 09:05 AM (Angsy)

276 The meme up top.

That's a decent landing spot for jizz.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:05 AM (Zz0t1)

277 Am I wrong or is 'cake' also these days used as a term for a nice ass?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:06 AM (zZu0s)

278 >>But the Pubbies are the war mongerers.

Someday, hopefully before I die, it will be common knowledge that Biden and the uniparty helped start this war by knowingly crossing Putin's stated red line. Putin never had any intention of attacking Poland or any other NATO country, that has always been a lie. He wanted to stop further expansion of NATO toward Russia as NATO had promised him for years.

The uniparty is a bunch of war mongers.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2023 09:06 AM (ZLI7S)

279 Two years ago, on the 20th anniversary of 9/11, NatGeo did a fabulous miniseries (maybe 6 episodes?) of NYC first responders describing that day. A lot of stories of heroism, and sadness over lost heroes. Worth watching if it is available.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 09:06 AM (izj35)

280 The fire department just had another siren to commemorate people lost when the second plane hit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 09:06 AM (Agdvg)

281 Am I wrong or is 'cake' also these days used as a term for a nice ass?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:06 AM (zZu0s)



You're wrong.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:07 AM (Zz0t1)

282 Dubya's. Not Dubai's.

Pfft.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Same same.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2023 09:07 AM (SEDrX)

283 I mean, I don't know, but it just seemed like the right thing to say at that moment.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:07 AM (Zz0t1)

284 A fair amount of people were killed on the ground by falling debris in both of the initial impacts and after as they were trying to escape or assist. Some of the bodies were still unrecovered when the South Tower fell. There were also a lot of jumpers. You never forget the sound of impacts of people jumping from a 100 story building. Never.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2023 09:07 AM (ij5RJ)

285 You're wrong.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:07 AM (Zz0t1)

I think the kids are using it these days, sponge.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:07 AM (zZu0s)

286 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2023 09:05 AM (N39Ws)

Well said. Thx.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2023 09:07 AM (Agdvg)

287 On the bright side of Monday I'm a Giants and Yankees fan. The Giants got shellacked and there best offensive lineman is having an MRI on his hamstring. The Yankees going nowhere and there best prospect Dominguez has a torn UCL and probably won't be ready for spring training. However had fun going to Yankees game on Saturday and getting caught in a near tornado.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2023 09:08 AM (/7iym)

288 Sponge, we took mom's keys about 2.5 years ago and I have since learned she took the opportunity of seeing my childhood friends at my daughter's wedding last week to bitch to them what a jerk I was for taking her keys.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2023 09:08 AM (RIvkX)

289 From the internet:

"Cake is a slang term which is often used to refer to a nice fat ass on a girl."

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:08 AM (zZu0s)

290
The uniparty is a bunch of war mongers.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2023 09:06 AM (ZLI7S)



Well duh.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:08 AM (Zz0t1)

291
Constitutional Rights = Not absolute

Phoney-Baloney, Made-up "Health Crisis" Tyranny = absolute

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, ladies and gentlemen.

A Hitleretta for Our Times.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2023 09:09 AM (QzZeQ)

292 only constituted a small portion of the U.S. defense budget.

====

I've heatd this talking point parroted right here on this very blog! Funny, that....

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2023 09:09 AM (yGBph)

293 "Cake is a slang term which is often used to refer to a nice fat ass on a girl."
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:08 AM (zZu0s)
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So Lizzo has pound cake?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 11, 2023 09:10 AM (ScR16)

294 Sponge, we took mom's keys about 2.5 years ago and I have since learned she took the opportunity of seeing my childhood friends at my daughter's wedding last week to bitch to them what a jerk I was for taking her keys.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2023 09:08 AM (RIvkX)



We took mom's keys because she couldn't afford insurance anymore. My daughter drove that car for her first 2 years. It worked out, but mom wasn't all that happy about it. She'd already totaled 2 cars prior......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:10 AM (Zz0t1)

295 So Lizzo has pound cake?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 11, 2023 09:10 AM (ScR16)

Gunt Cake.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:10 AM (zZu0s)

296 So Lizzo has pound cake?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 11, 2023 09:10 AM (ScR16)
++++
Toncake.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 09:11 AM (t0OGg)

297 So Lizzo has pound cake?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at Septem

*channels Sponge*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2023 09:11 AM (eG/xm)

298 291 Gee, Paul. 18 years old in Arkansas and 15 in Hawaii.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 11, 2023 09:11 AM (0EOe9)

299 " So Lizzo has pound cake?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 11, 2023 09:10 AM (ScR16)

Gunt Cake.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop"

More like a Ton Cake.

Posted by: Hungry Freaks, Daddy at September 11, 2023 09:11 AM (vFG9F)

300 Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani

As we reflect 22 years later, let us not only remember the tragedy but also the triumph of the human spirit that emerged from the darkness.

We remember the innocent lives lost and honor the firefighters, police officers, first responders, and everyday New Yorkers who demonstrated extraordinary courage and selflessness on September 11th, 2001. We remember their names, their faces, and their unwavering dedication.

May we strive to embody their example, to be the light that shines in the darkest of times, and to honor their memory by living lives of compassion, courage, and resilience.....cont.

https://tinyurl.com/53tdrajx


Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2023 09:11 AM (NpAcC)

301 277 Am I wrong or is 'cake' also these days used as a term for a nice ass?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:06 AM (zZu0s)

This is an interesting question and according to the Urban Dictionary, "cake" indeed does refer to one's bootie.

Also, I have heard "filthy" to describe a fine behind.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 11, 2023 09:12 AM (TGPs7)

302 >>Two years ago, on the 20th anniversary of 9/11, NatGeo did a fabulous miniseries (maybe 6 episodes?) of NYC first responders describing that day. A lot of stories of heroism, and sadness over lost heroes. Worth watching if it is available.

If you ever find yourself in NYC I highly recommend visiting the 9/11 Museum. It's filled with recordings, video, pictures and various items that were removed on 9/11. Hard not to be emotional when you see it.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 11, 2023 09:12 AM (ZLI7S)

303
*channels Sponge*
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2023 09:11 AM (eG/xm)




Someone asked for it.......


https://youtu.be/o1GJxVmYv-E

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)

304 Is Lizzo the woman in Chicago who hid the gun in her fat rolls? Or was that some other land whale

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2023 09:12 AM (/7iym)

305 --
-- He then launched into sharing a scene from a John Wayne movie, where Indians accused Union soldiers of being “lying dog-faced pony soldiers,” and likened them to climate change skeptics.

“Well there’s a lot of lying dog-faced pony soldiers out there about global warming,” he said. “But not anymore. All of a sudden, they’re all realizing it — there’s a problem. And there’s nothing like seeing the light.”


Biden once again attempts to make his point and get laughs by insulting the US Army. Because of course he does.

Posted by: GL at September 11, 2023 09:12 AM (5fDan)

306 Thank you, JJ.
Excellent open. Much appreciate your diligence!

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at September 11, 2023 09:12 AM (gxokI)

307 >>"Cake is a slang term which is often used to refer to a nice fat ass on a girl."

I want a girl who gets up early (gets up early)
I want a girl who stays up late (stays up late)
I want a girl with uninterrupted prosperity
Who uses a machete to cut through red tape
With fingernails that shine like justice (hey, ho)
And a voice that is dark like tinted glass (hey, ho)
She is fast and thorough and sharp as a tack (hey, ho)
She's touring the facility and picking up slack (hey)

Posted by: CAKE at September 11, 2023 09:12 AM (izj35)

308 298 291 Gee, Paul. 18 years old in Arkansas and 15 in Hawaii.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 11, 2023 09:11 AM (0EOe9)

I do not think they are interested in 'marrying' them in hollywood- or at Paul's house.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:13 AM (zZu0s)

309 USGS analysis of WTC dust:
https://tinyurl.com/ykkhzwwy

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at September 11, 2023 09:13 AM (MvF+J)

310 Can't be having anything like that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (t0OGg)

129 Ha! In before Joe Mannix!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2023 08:28 AM (0FoWg)


LOL!

Maybe Teh Horde is actually a giant siphonophore...a whole colony of individuals that make one creature.

Posted by: creeper at September 11, 2023 09:13 AM (cTCuP)

311 I was Captain of our EMS service on 9/11. We were mobilized and on stand-by at Liberty Park, right across the harbor from lower Manhattan. We were there to handle the thousands of injured that were expected. After two days it was clear we would not be needed.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 11, 2023 09:13 AM (3ImbR)

312 Some of the so called conservative names named above may have revealed themselves TO YOU after 9/11 to be assholes and not conservative but some of us knew it prior to Reagan because they opposed him going back as far as 76 and 80. They also bashed him post presidency for not getting some shit he promised done during his presidency just like some do now with Trump. None the less they learned from Reagan conservatism, adopted the lingo and became self proclaimed Uber consertives in the late 80’s. Kristol, Rove, G. Will etc all opposed Reagan when he ran in 80. The fact that some still refer to those cocksuckers as conservative to this day just goes to show how much many of you do not know the history of the GOP and it’s hatred of conservatism and why we’re doomed to repeat GOP failure of falling for shitty candidates that did some conservative things to shore up their conservative bonerfides only to shit the bed by ending up being GOP cucks once they hit the big stage.

Posted by: JROD at September 11, 2023 09:13 AM (NUDLi)

313 @298, 291 the scum Wiener got it reduced to 14 for some things in California

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2023 09:14 AM (/7iym)

314 >>" So Lizzo has pound cake?


A dump cake.

Posted by: CAKE at September 11, 2023 09:14 AM (izj35)

315 Thanks for the update on 'Cake.'

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:15 AM (AMd6i)

316 RJLee Group analysis of WTC dust:
https://tinyurl.com/2w28dw5r

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at September 11, 2023 09:15 AM (MvF+J)

317 "I was Captain of our EMS service on 9/11. We were mobilized and on stand-by at Liberty Park, right across the harbor from lower Manhattan. We were there to handle the thousands of injured that were expected. After two days it was clear we would not be needed.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 11, 2023 09:13 AM (3ImbR)"

I eventually EVAC'd through your AO that day with some walking wounded. Thanks.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2023 09:16 AM (ij5RJ)

318 The morning of 9/11 we were getting ready for the day, work and school, and in the background CNN was on and reporting the news, a time when CNN actually did that. Suddenly, everything stopped and the reporters, with great confusion, reported a plane had struck a World Trade Tower building. Over the next few minutes there was much speculative reporting to fill the time, there and at home, when the second plane hit the other World Trade Tower building. In that moment everything stopped and changed - work and school no longer mattered. Instantly it was clear we had been attacked and we knew nothing would ever be the same. Then came the horror, people leaping to their death, the fire, the collapses, the dust, the paper, people fleeing, covered in both, but in reality covered by the horror of everything. All that night and many following I read the reports, saw the images, felt the reactions from around the world; those now, the bits and pieces of the horror, still fill my head, indelible and seared into that part of us where the immortal days of lives are forever vivid.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 11, 2023 09:16 AM (V/oiF)

319 A little story I’m concerned about is the Israeli Supreme Court are apparently considering declaring that they cannot be questioned in any way. The Knesset passed some judicial reforms and the 15 judges don’t like it and are poised to rule the Knesset can’t do that.

It’s worth noting those 15 judges aren’t elected and they appoint their successors so they’re entirely insulated from voters. Who knows what’ll happen in a standoff if the judges say no and the Knesset (and Bibi) insist yes we can…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 09:16 AM (R/Mh9)

320 open for Hamilton, Joe Frank and Reynolds

Is that 3 guys or four ?
Posted by: JT at September 11, 2023 08:38 AM (T4tVD)

48 years later and I still don't know.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 08:39 AM


It was actually a quintet: Hamilton, Joe, Frank, Ann, Reynolds.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at September 11, 2023 09:16 AM (a3Q+t)

321 >>“One of my staff members said, remember the famous song ‘Good Morning Vietnam’? Well, good evening, Vietnam,” he said to no laughter. . .


He will never run out of ways to demonstrate what an a$$hole he is, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 09:17 AM (izj35)

322 Rick Rescorla- the man originally born in England

Cornwall.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 11, 2023 09:17 AM (4PZHB)

323 He will never run out of ways to demonstrate what an a$$hole he is, huh?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 09:17 AM (izj35)

He made it to the presidency. He's an inspiration to all assholes.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 09:17 AM (GFoyL)

324 He will never run out of ways to demonstrate what an a$$hole he is, huh?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 09:17 AM (izj35)

Part of it is the copy being written for him. Still, his delivery is on point.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:18 AM (zZu0s)

325 Alameda County hasn't suffered HALF enough yet...they need to have their beautiful multimillion dollar homes ransacked and razed by flash mobs, their children assaulted and raped on the streets by ten-on-one gangs, their businesses burned to the ground by organized burglary teams...they need to be made to hurt BADLY, so that they might be made to LEARN.

FJB

Posted by: jbspry at September 11, 2023 09:18 AM (s78zi)

326 Speaking of slang terms, my wife taught me a new one yesterday — “bucket.”

It’s the latest term for a “beater” or a “hoopty.” A banged-up old car.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2023 09:18 AM (xTRSc)

327 Speaking of slang terms, my wife taught me a new one yesterday — “bucket.”

It’s the latest term for a “beater” or a “hoopty.” A banged-up old car.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2023 09:18 AM (xTRSc)



Formerly known as 'rust buckets.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:19 AM (Zz0t1)

328 He made it to the presidency. He's an inspiration to all assholes.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 09:17 AM (GFoyL)

Biggest assholes in the presidency:

-Andrew Jackson
-Harding
-FDR
-LBJ

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:19 AM (zZu0s)

329 326 Speaking of slang terms, my wife taught me a new one yesterday — “bucket.”

It’s the latest term for a “beater” or a “hoopty.” A banged-up old car.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2023 09:18 AM (xTRSc)

That was pretty common where I grew up.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 09:20 AM (GFoyL)

330 Formerly known as 'rust buckets.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:19 AM (Zz0t1)
++++
See Also: "pile"

Same thing - a crappy car. Derived from either "shit pile" or "pile of shit"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 09:20 AM (t0OGg)

331
Biggest assholes in the presidency:

-Andrew Jackson
-Harding
-FDR
-LBJ
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:19 AM (zZu0s)



*every democrat ever is missing from this list

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)

332
I think it's safe to say that though we've won some battles, we totally lost both the Cold War and Whatever the Hell that Post-911 War/policy Gemisch was.

While stating that we had to fight the terrorists "over there" so we wouldn't have to fight them "over here", Our Government absolutely one hundred percent insured that no matter the war and whoever it is, the most significant battles will be fought on American soil.

Open borders = huge terroist influx guarantees that we'll never be able to project our military strength abroad without Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, Gramps and Granny all being targets for slaughter at home.

And our fighting men and women. Well! Give them an ROE that makes the them world's most expensive fertilizer sent to help grow p[retty flowers on foreign soil to help fight the real enemy, global warming.

Hey, don't forget 9/11!

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2023 09:20 AM (QzZeQ)

333 22 years ago the Deeper State and Globalists did something,
in much the same way they did something to JFK, RFK, JFK Jr.,
the Federal Building in Oklahoma, the Trump Election, Waco, the Scamdemic...

Oh, I don't doubt Muslims were involved in 911, just as I don't doubt Oswald and Ruby were part of the JFK conspiracy too, but there was a deeper faction, farther within the layers and layers of the onion, who were ultimately responsible.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 11, 2023 09:20 AM (TGPs7)

334 Biggest assholes in the presidency:

-Andrew Jackson
-Harding
-FDR
-LBJ
------------------
Andy is America's Joshua. WTF?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:20 AM (AMd6i)

335 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:19 AM (zZu0s)

Add Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (GFoyL)

336 It’s worth noting those 15 judges aren’t elected and they appoint their successors so they’re entirely insulated from voters. Who knows what’ll happen in a standoff if the judges say no and the Knesset (and Bibi) insist yes we can…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 09:16 AM (R/Mh9)
===
They have no army.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (RIvkX)

337 Shut up, Wesley. And go swab down the holodeck.

Posted by: Captain Peek-ard at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (EGPRf)

338 Before 9/11 I knew Muslims in America. They were what you would call moderate - they dressed like everyone else, they drank alcohol, and Islam wasn't the centerpiece of their identity.

And then I remember a year or so later I was driving through a big blue shithole and I saw a couple of women in burkas pushing baby carriages.

And that was the point I knew we were probably going to lose the WoT.

Could you imagine in 1942 a group of people wearing SA uniforms walking down the street in a major American city?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (XqcwY)

339 “hoopty.” A banged-up old car.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2023 09:18 AM (xTRSc)



You asked for it.......


https://youtu.be/UIPr4UyiZGE

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (Zz0t1)

340 We would never have had a "9/11" if the republican Supreme Court had not made Bush POTUS W was told about the upcoming attack in the Aug. 6th 2001 PDB and he told the intel person who gave him that information, "Good, now you have covered your ass. Get out of here." rough quote.

Damn Straight We Wouldn't have...Gore would NOT have ignored the August 6 memo. Oh and damn condi rice, too.

Even if 9/11 occurred similar to how it did under Gore, his response would not have led us into 2 wars and thousand of americans dead fighting and millions of lives in Iraq and Afghanistan destroyed or ended.

IMO it was the most egregious betrayal of public trust by a president in American history. GW Bush launched a predetermined war of choice based on a systematic campaign of lies by using the national tragedy of 9/11 to manipulate the grief, anger, fear, and patriotism of the American people!

He was one of many Republican presidents who lost the popular vote but got to select two Supreme Court justices.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (JCZqz)

341 Well, on the upside, we don't have TFG lecturing us that on 9/11 we need to instead be observing his declared National Day of Service by picking up trash at inner-city playgrounds or somesuch.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (izj35)

342 *every democrat ever is missing from this list
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)

James K Polk was a dem.

On the other hand, he also established the national bank as one of his four things, no?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:22 AM (zZu0s)

343 I've seen every John Wayne movie ever made, even the ones where he plays a singing cowboy (dumbed in singing voice). There was never a line where an indian calls him a lying dog face pony soldier.

I guess that's par for the course from an idiot who thinks "Good Morning Vietnam" is a song.


Posted by: Archer at September 11, 2023 09:22 AM (gmo/4)

344 We would never have had a "9/11" if the republican Supreme Court had not made Bush POTUS W was told about the upcoming attack in the Aug. 6th 2001 PDB and he told the intel person who gave him that information, "Good, now you have covered your ass. Get out of here." rough quote. ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (JCZqz)
++++
Sounds like someone is questioning the duly-adjudicated, legal vote.

DU is thick with insurrectionists, apparently.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 09:22 AM (t0OGg)

345 So how big of an ass kicking did the Giants take last night? I tuned out in the 2nd Qtr.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:22 AM (AMd6i)

346 ... He was one of many Republican presidents who lost the popular vote but got to select two Supreme Court justices.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (JCZqz)
++++
You know how I know you have nothing meaningful, intelligent or informed to say? It's when you talk about the "popular vote" like it means anything for the presidency.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 09:23 AM (t0OGg)

347 22 years ago today "some people did something."


IF the terrorists hoped for us to lose our freedom, they succeeded.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 11, 2023 09:23 AM (aD39U)

348 I always associate “rust bucket” with Granpa Max’ tricked-out RV on “Ben Ten.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2023 09:23 AM (xTRSc)

349 dubbed

Posted by: Archer at September 11, 2023 09:23 AM (gmo/4)

350 I think it's safe to say that though we've won some battles, we totally lost both the Cold War and Whatever the Hell that Post-911 War/policy Gemisch was.

I think we won the Cold War - our current problems come from ideas from Western Europe and to a lessor extent China. Yes many of the people that came up with them would describe themselves as communists and worked with Soviet agents but they themselves were not.

And of course the USSR died as well...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2023 09:23 AM (XqcwY)

351 An Archbishop friend of mine counsels that one should forgive, "but never, ever forget what those f*ckers did to us."

I've seen it expressed, "Everything is forgiven. But everything has to be paid for."


Part of the Evangelical's doctrine of Free Will rejects repentance as a necessary precondition to forgiveness.

The mainstream opinion of "Age of Accountability" also makes for a Christ-less salvation. That alone is sufficient to disconnect acknowledgment of transgressions and repentance from the act of forgiveness.

When forgiveness is orphaned off so that the transgressor has no responsibility to own up to their own sins, no need to acknowledge them and no requirement to repent, or to understand that a payment must be made, the assumption is that the one who forgives without precondition is also obligated to assume all of the costs.

That is the American Religion, so good luck getting a crowd to demand some form of contrition from the aggressors.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2023 09:24 AM (p8A+W)

352 I don’t even get an honorable mention in a Niki Haley thread? I hardly recognize this place.

Posted by: Will Folks at September 11, 2023 09:24 AM (v/4QC)

353

Bucket T

https://youtu.be/3PZSpmAKxVY

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (63Dwl)

354 As a kid, my brother affectionately dubbed his rusted-out International pickup the "the blue bucket." It took lickings but kept on ticking, until it didn't.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (GFoyL)

355 You know how I know you have nothing meaningful, intelligent or informed to say? It's when you talk about the "popular vote" like it means anything for the presidency.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

It's like arguing that your team ran more linear feet at the Super Bowl.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (kjOVp)

356 So how big of an ass kicking did the Giants take last night? I tuned out in the 2nd Qtr.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:22 AM (AMd6i)


40-0

The Cowboys had mercy on the Giants by mostly playing their second and third strings in the 4th quarter.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (QzZeQ)

357 >>We would never have had a "9/11" if the republican Supreme Court had not made Bush POTUS


Remind me again, who was president when Bin Laden bombed several US embassies in Africa and bombed the US Cole?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (izj35)

358
Biggest assholes in the presidency:

-Andrew Jackson
-Harding
-FDR
-LBJ

_______

Harding? Instead of Obama? Really?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (MoZTd)

359 Who knows what’ll happen in a standoff if the judges say no and the Knesset (and Bibi) insist yes we can…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 09:16 AM (R/Mh9)
===
They have no army.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2023 09:21 AM (RIvkX)

Except I’ve read there are portions of the IDF leadership that side with the judges. I have no idea, of course, but I’m thinking it’s possible they have their own Milley’s….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (R/Mh9)

360 Damn, posting to the wrong thread...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (ynpvh)

361 I've seen every John Wayne movie ever made, even the ones where he plays a singing cowboy (dumbed in singing voice).
---------
I enjoyed his "Three Mesquiteers" two-reelers. One of the local L.A. TV stations showed them on Saturday afternoons, back in the day.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 11, 2023 09:26 AM (ScR16)

362 331 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:19 AM (zZu0s)


Wilson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 09:26 AM (x0n13)

363 22 years ago we were living in Mountain View, CA. Pretty far removed from NYC, Shanksville, and the Pentagon.

For us it was strictly a TV event. The shutting down of SFO and SJC to air traffic for a couple days was about the only noticeable effect.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 11, 2023 09:26 AM (Q4IgG)

364 356 So how big of an ass kicking did the Giants take last night? I tuned out in the 2nd Qtr.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:22 AM (AMd6i)

40-0

The Cowboys had mercy on the Giants by mostly playing their second and third strings in the 4th quarter.
-----------------
Jeebus, that's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:26 AM (AMd6i)

365 >>>I eventually EVAC'd through your AO that day with some walking wounded. Thanks.
~~~~~

I am very glad you made it through.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 11, 2023 09:26 AM (3ImbR)

366 IF the terrorists hoped for us to lose our freedom, they succeeded.

Osama made a big, big mistake on many levels. A the highest level he saw Christian US/Europe as Islam's main threat right as Progressive-"Atheism" conquered the US and Europe.

If things continue on their current arc I expect that their will be a leftist "crusade" of sorts against the Islamic states in a generation. This might not take the form of a war but economic/political pressure to make them comply with leftist notions on sex and perversion.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (XqcwY)

367 I did learn on thing from this story about Energy Sec. Granholm’s EV Road Trip Includes a Family Calling the Police on Her Entourage

Bogart is a slang verb that means to selfishly take or keep something

In one piece about this trip, they referred to members of the entourage were caught trying to “bogart” a charging station.

Posted by: SMOD at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (RHGPo)

368 From last thread:
236 Has anyone seen polynikes commenting?
Posted by: Ben Had

I can't remember exactly when, 2 weeks ago?, Polynikes made a comment (paraphrasing), congratulations you just ran another commenter off this site.

Posted by: old chick at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (sOete)

369
40-0

The Cowboys had mercy on the Giants by mostly playing their second and third strings in the 4th quarter.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (QzZeQ)



You KNOW you suck as a team when you don't get 2 interceptions from Daky 2 Picks.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

370 Harding was a much better president, and person, than he’s given credit for being.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (xTRSc)

371 Harding? Instead of Obama? Really?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (MoZTd)

I was working from that Obama and Biden were both assumed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (zZu0s)

372 I expected Joe to humiliate himself and us and he didn't disappoint

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (bs+z0)

373 I spent yesterday NOT watching the nfl. Many years into this life I no longer even think of the nfl. Never going back

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (ZV+pB)

374 357 >>We would never have had a "9/11" if the republican Supreme Court had not made Bush POTUS


Remind me again, who was president when Bin Laden bombed several US embassies in Africa and bombed the US Cole?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (izj35)


And when Bin Laden was literally in our sights of and also when he could have been detained and extradited to us before the attacks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 09:28 AM (x0n13)

375
Wilson.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 09:26 AM (x0n13)

_______

Forgot about ol' Tommy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2023 09:28 AM (MoZTd)

376 I don't know that I want to see today's art.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:28 AM (Zz0t1)

377 IDK about Harding. But the others are a start.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2023 09:28 AM (eG/xm)

378 "congratulations you just ran another commenter off this site."

We always come back sooner or later.

Posted by: gp Is Committed To Doing The Important Work at September 11, 2023 09:29 AM (MvF+J)

379 Had Gore pulled off his steal 9/11 would have still happened. The same incompetent people were running the NSA/FBI/CIA. And Gore would have given them medals just like Shrub did.

I wonder though if it would have been better for us overall as Shrub did his best to excuse Clinton for ignoring the rise of AQ. Do we get a President Thompson in '04 as people have finally had enough of Clinton/Gore corruption instead of Shrub in '00?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2023 09:29 AM (XqcwY)

380 It's like arguing that your team ran more linear feet at the Super Bowl.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 11, 2023 09:25 AM (kjOVp)
++++
My preferred analogy involves baseball.

It's like arguing that your team won the World Series because it scored more runs than the opposing team, even the other team won more games.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 11, 2023 09:29 AM (t0OGg)

381 I spent yesterday NOT watching the nfl. Many years into this life I no longer even think of the nfl. Never going back

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (ZV+pB)


Me too. Plus I added NOT watching NASCAR for the exact same reasons.

Posted by: Archer at September 11, 2023 09:30 AM (gmo/4)

382 IDK about Harding. But the others are a start.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2023 09:28 AM (eG/xm)
------------
Under the Harding Administration, income tax was slashed from the sky-high levels it had reached during WWI. Helped set off the economic boom of the '20s.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at September 11, 2023 09:30 AM (ScR16)

383 >>And when Bin Laden was literally in our sights of and also when he could have been detained and extradited to us before the attacks.


Wasn't that depicted in "The Path to 9/11" -- the miniseries Bill Clinton has had deep-sixed since it aired on tv once?

If Clinton was such a great terrorist fighter why did he need Sandy Berger to remove and destroy the evidence of how he handled 9/11 warning signs and other mistakes?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2023 09:30 AM (izj35)

384 I spent yesterday NOT watching the nfl. Many years into this life I no longer even think of the nfl. Never going back
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (ZV+pB)

Watching Dog Mess Getting Bleached White By The Sun > Watching Any NFL Anything

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2023 09:31 AM (xsBhv)

385 We would never have had a "9/11" if the republican Supreme Court had not made Bush POTUS W was told about the upcoming attack in the Aug. 6th 2001

And what sort of crystal ball did this idiot claim to have where he can see alternate realities?

Clue to the clueless: The 1993 World Trade Center bombing. [checking notes] That was under Billy Jeff Clinton. When the Clintons failed to do anything about it, and further, went about in revamped policies to make it more certain to be successful in the future, you get 9/11. Clinton refused to go after bin Laden when it was known he was behind the planning.

I think even Jeremiah Wright noted that this was a response to many years of Leviathan abusing the world.

The money quote: "America's Chickens have come home to roost".

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2023 09:31 AM (p8A+W)

386 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 11, 2023 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

387 Not the Bee @Not_the_Bee

“There is no such thing as a state public health emergency exception to the U.S. Constitution.”

Mark this as the first time we’ve ever quoted David Hogg without a rebuttal.

Posted by: SMOD at September 11, 2023 09:31 AM (RHGPo)

388 98 If you took away the TSA checks at the airports, could it happen again?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 11, 2023 08:19 AM (2NHgQ)


If you doubled the TSA checks at the airports it could happen again.

I think they have improved, though. When tested, they only miss 80% of the banned items instead of the former 95%.

Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2023 09:31 AM (Sf2cq)

389 The one guy in the executive branch that was against killing Bin Laden?

Joey Shit Pants.


Let that sink in for awhile.

Posted by: Archer at September 11, 2023 09:31 AM (gmo/4)

390 Under the Harding Administration, income tax was slashed from the sky-high levels it had reached during WWI. Helped set off the economic boom of the '20s.
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The roaring 20s was due to Wilson jumping the US into WWI to save the loan portfolios of Manhattan Banks. As long as France paid their loans all was good.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:32 AM (AMd6i)

391 I ask, what if President Eisenhower on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor announced he would be skipping all the solemn ceremonies of remembrance because he had more important things to do?

That is exactly with Biden has done and that speaks a the truth of this man and what he is about. He has no center, no purpose beyond using this nation, its citizens, but to trade all of it away for bribes and the hope he will be remembered as the transformational figure in history that set the greatest experiment in self-governance and freedom on a course that ends not in something greater but in will end in cynical tyrannical nightmare.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 11, 2023 09:32 AM (V/oiF)

392 Over the past four decades, America has been placed on a path of self-destruction by those bent on transforming it into a one-party socialist state with themselves permanently embedded as the ruling elite. An ever-growing number of increasingly self-absorbed citizens, reveling in unprecedented peace and prosperity, chose to remain silent as their nation was being incrementally transformed.
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Heed this warning.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2023 09:32 AM (Vt5Xn)

393 I recall Teller of Penn and Teller snuck two machetes on to a plane.

But yes let's make everyone take their shoes and belts off...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2023 09:32 AM (XqcwY)

394 “There is no such thing as a state public health emergency exception to the U.S. Constitution.”

Said by a leftist freak, but not yet by one Republican politician.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 11, 2023 09:32 AM (GFoyL)

395 -Andrew Jackson
-Harding
-FDR
-LBJ


As much as I loathe John Dean, he wrote a very good short bio of Harding, who was a much better man and president than people think. The only reason people dunk on him is because of Teapot Dome (which Harding had no involvement in) and Nan Britton.

Harding is Washington redux compared to Hussein and Shitpants.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2023 09:33 AM (AW0uW)

396 343 I've seen every John Wayne movie ever made, even the ones where he plays a singing cowboy (dumbed in singing voice). There was never a line where an indian calls him a lying dog face pony soldier.

I guess that's par for the course from an idiot who thinks "Good Morning Vietnam" is a song.

Posted by: Archer at September 11, 2023 09:22 AM (gmo/4)


EVERYTHING FJB says is a lie.

Posted by: GL at September 11, 2023 09:35 AM (5fDan)

397 We had a very disjointed NATSEC apparatus prior to 9/11. Lots of bureaucratic interference and levels. The type of attack they undertook was almost inconceivable at the time, and even if it was the bureaucratic response probably wouldn't be fast enough. I believe the fact we had time to smoke a lot of people involved, and didn't is probably the most important point. Because if you take people off the battlefield it makes it hard for them to command and control operations. It provides more opportunities to target more people and gather intel. By the way, that continued well into the GWOT and manifested itself with some of the ROE's and the shithead JAG people who often made bad calls where there were TIC situations which got guys killed. That's before I start talking about how we should never have been in Iraq in the first place, and how the people running that from the administration and state got a lot of good men killed.

Rant over.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2023 09:37 AM (ij5RJ)

398 Clinton got a lot of people killed with his incompetent calls. It started with Task Force Ranger, where he denied armor and other materials we need because it provide bad political optics. Fuck that guy and his band of cowards.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2023 09:39 AM (ij5RJ)

399 367 I did learn on thing from this story about Energy Sec. Granholm’s EV Road Trip Includes a Family Calling the Police on Her Entourage

Bogart is a slang verb that means to selfishly take or keep something

In one piece about this trip, they referred to members of the entourage were caught trying to “bogart” a charging station.

Posted by: SMOD at September 11, 2023 09:27 AM (RHGPo)


Soon to be SOP by Our Betters.

Posted by: GL at September 11, 2023 09:41 AM (5fDan)

400 Since this is football discussion day,
the Patriots played very well against a superior Philly team,
and could have won the game, if they either had an elite
quarterback or wide receivers. Meanwhile, Brady clanged the
bell on top of the Foxboro Lighthouse and the fans were happy.

Fun Fact: The video scoreboard at Foxboro is the largest in the Western Hemisphere.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 11, 2023 09:42 AM (TGPs7)

401 Good morning, all, and thank you, J.J.

Had repeatedly been asked to work during around-the-clock efforts inside & immediately outside the recovery zone of the WTC. I couldn't do it. I went one evening but watched those wonderful people working onsite from the perimeter, through openings in barricades. I also spent much of the night looking at a plethora of messages & pictures of missing loved ones posted by families and friends on the barricades. Decades later, I'm still haunted by what I so briefly saw in NYC & each & every time I visit the beautifully appointed Flight 93 National Memorial in Schwenksville, PA. I cannot imagine the enduring pain felt by those families.

Also remember the first World Trade Center Bombing in 1993. If you're not familiar, a good source is fbi dot gov, History which begins, "On February 26, 1993, at about 17 minutes past noon, a thunderous explosion rocked lower Manhattan."



Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at September 11, 2023 09:42 AM (GshMh)

402 The fact that some still refer to those cocksuckers as conservative to this day just goes to show how much many of you do not know the history of the GOP and it’s hatred of conservatism and why we’re doomed to repeat GOP failure of falling for shitty candidates that did some conservative things to shore up their conservative bonerfides only to shit the bed by ending up being GOP cucks once they hit the big stage.
Posted by: JROD
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The GOP was founded as a progressive party more or less and then that was wedded during McKinley's presidency to corporatism and wealth.

So the GOP officials are about as conservative as the Tories over in England. Statist, open borders because we must have cheap labor, splendid little wars fought abroad, and worshipping wealth over substance. Other than occasional exceptions, they never were for 'the little guy' and even now have to be driven by fear of losing office to do the right things. Out of the crisis, they revert to form.

Posted by: whig at September 11, 2023 09:42 AM (PZr1U)

403 As much as I loathe John Dean, he wrote a very good short bio of Harding, who was a much better man and president than people think. The only reason people dunk on him is because of Teapot Dome (which Harding had no involvement in) and Nan Britton.

Harding is Washington redux compared to Hussein and Shitpants.
Posted by: Mary Poppins
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You are correct. Harding instituted budgetary reforms, quelled a mini depression in 1920 without busting the budget, and set the stage for the Roaring Twenties. Can't blame him for Prohibition as the states did that to us.

Posted by: whig at September 11, 2023 09:45 AM (PZr1U)

404 I always associate “rust bucket” with Granpa Max’ tricked-out RV on “Ben Ten.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus "

That was a GMC motorhome, the body of which is made of aluminum and fiberglass.

Posted by: fd at September 11, 2023 09:47 AM (vFG9F)

405 Fun Fact: The video scoreboard at Foxboro is the largest in the Western Hemisphere.
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I guess the Eagles are happy about that.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:47 AM (Bkgck)

406 Wilson.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2023 09:26 AM (x0n13)

Quality addition. Also another presidential vegetable.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2023 09:49 AM (zZu0s)

407 If you have an insurance policy, a 401k or other retirement plan ... you are a capitalist

Posted by: SMOD at September 11, 2023 09:49 AM (RHGPo)

408 Fun Fact: The video scoreboard at Foxboro is the largest in the Western Hemisphere.
I guess the Eagles are happy about that.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:47 AM (Bkgck)

The Patriots should show the Bob Kraft Videos from his rub n tug adventures on the Big Screen at halftime during home games.

Then I would watch.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2023 09:50 AM (xsBhv)

409 >>>"We know that Russia has said, once they take Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next, and then you're looking at a full-on war," she continued. "What we're trying to do is prevent war. That's a pretty good return on investment to prevent war."

Where? Where did Russia say that? Specifically, where did Putin say that?

This is the kind of bullshit neocons make up.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 11, 2023 10:03 AM (mj0Qp)

410 Before - Trump is a tyrant and will cancel the 2020 election.

Now - Trump is a tyrant and we must take him off the ballot so Biden doesn't have an opponent in the 2024 election, thus saving our precious democracy.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 11, 2023 10:04 AM (fs1hN)

411 We had a very disjointed NATSEC apparatus prior to 9/11. Lots of bureaucratic interference and levels.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2023 09:37 AM (ij5RJ)

I have come to fully believe that there is no way our multi billion dollar national security goliath was unaware of this massive plot, involving dozens of people, orchestrated by one of the most wanted terrorists in the world.

And instead of asking questions about how our government could fuck up that badly, we just gave them a blank check.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 11, 2023 10:06 AM (mj0Qp)

412 I have come to fully believe that there is no way our multi billion dollar national security goliath was unaware of this massive plot, involving dozens of people, orchestrated by one of the most wanted terrorists in the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 11, 2023 10:06 AM (mj0Qp)
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There was a disjointed set of intelligence organizations in the days before 9/11, and not a unified "goliath". The CIA was repeatedly warned, and itself passed warnings to the FBI. The FBI was actively investigating parts of the terror action group, while ignoring other (subsequently obvious) warning behaviors. The State Department was busy protecting the SA government (and its operatives here in the US) and the Bin Laden family, out of a silly belief in itself and its own priorities.

Left hand, right hand....

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2023 10:17 AM (aPX18)

413 'Bogart is a slang verb that means to selfishly take or keep something
"

Don't Bogart that joint, my friend...pass it on to the end...


Damn, I'm old.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2023 10:31 AM (isNL8)

414 345 So how big of an ass kicking did the Giants take last night? I tuned out in the 2nd Qtr.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 11, 2023 09:22 AM (AMd6i)


Quite severe.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at September 11, 2023 10:40 AM (8C7+r)

415 “We know that Russia has said, once they take Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next..."

Not since Trump put the fear of God into NATO, and they began arming themselves seriously, they didn't.

Putin knows that Finland, Sweden, and Poland could kick the shit out of him without the US or UK getting involved. And if he's fantasizing about using tac nukes, he must not be able to read a wind chart.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 11, 2023 10:42 AM (8Ta2Y)

416 One thing about ole Putin, he loves his country.

Our prez not so much.

Posted by: DOYLE at September 11, 2023 10:43 AM (Z8Yh2)

417 By the way the USSC has decreed that yelling "Fire" in a theater IS PROTECTED SPEECH, so it's annoying to keep seeing that as an example of a Freedom of Speech exception.

Posted by: Jimbo Madison at September 11, 2023 03:53 PM (Ntfez)

418 In case your loan does not cover your accomplice or child, you’ll
must prove that you've got sufficient money to assist them instead.

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